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mateyno if anything it probably encouraged themApr 14 00:03
bnchs__yeah it did encourage themApr 14 00:07
bnchs__i mean even before the stream began, there was a 4chan thread about itApr 14 00:08
mateyany highlights?Apr 14 00:09
mateyor just stuff thats easy to imagine/guessApr 14 00:09
bnchs__"    >CC BY-NDApr 14 00:10
bnchs__    What did he mean by this?Apr 14 00:10
bnchs__    >USE GPL but OH NO you cant make derivative versions of my voice recordings fuck you"Apr 14 00:10
mateyyeahApr 14 00:11
MinceR 14 00:11
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mateywell that is nearly the dumbest thing about the fsfApr 14 00:11
mateythough i have to say, not standing to up systemd and letting github take over the free software worldApr 14 00:12
bnchs__"I wasn't even being political and still randomly got banned, probably because my name had "fren" in it. Glad to see that IRC jannies haven't changed. "Apr 14 00:12
mateymight put at third, even if its the reason i stopped giving them moneyApr 14 00:12
mateylol "fren"?Apr 14 00:13
bnchs__"QUESTION: should Free Software be licensed as Public Domain instead of GPL so that Black People are not stigmatized with stealing it? "Apr 14 00:13
bnchs__this was in the chat history aswellApr 14 00:13
mateyclassyApr 14 00:13
mateyi think ive heard that one beforeApr 14 00:14
bnchs__yes, someone posted it in the 4chan threadApr 14 00:14
mateydo you get "fren" reference? its not one i knowApr 14 00:14
bnchs__before posting it in #fsfApr 14 00:14
bnchs__matey: "fren" is like a corruption of "friend"Apr 14 00:15
mateysure butApr 14 00:15
matey..?Apr 14 00:15
mateyits part of some terrible meme?Apr 14 00:15
bnchs__noApr 14 00:15
mateyokayApr 14 00:15
mateylieberans are weirdApr 14 00:16
mateyactually lieber still means freeApr 14 00:16
mateyso lie-berans Apr 14 00:16
mateyor life, my german is sheisseApr 14 00:16
MinceRlieberman is an enemy of freedom, thoughApr 14 00:16
mateymincer: very trueApr 14 00:16
mateyhim and his kill switchApr 14 00:17
bnchs__"The minetest shilling was nice. Our kids should be playing open source autism simulators. "Apr 14 00:17
mateyi dont know if i can get offended by 4chan talking shit about autismApr 14 00:18
mateytheyre basically making fun of themselves at that pointApr 14 00:18
MinceRand his clueless attacks on videogamesApr 14 00:18
mateyhe backpedals on this talk about videogames when someone actually asks him about videogamesApr 14 00:18
bnchs__" great job /g/ you fucked the irc with your nigger bullshit "Apr 14 00:19
mateylike its something you talk shit about by default but when pressed, you have to be diplomaticApr 14 00:19
MinceR:>Apr 14 00:19
mateytoo bad he cant shit about github instead!Apr 14 00:20
mateypiss of github users? NO NO NOApr 14 00:20
mateytake a swipe at gamers? checkApr 14 00:20
MinceRMICROS~1 is probably one of his donorsApr 14 00:20
mateyi kinda doubt itApr 14 00:20
bnchs__"He used to be even more extreme. Now he's softened his opinions because he was threatened with getting his funding cut.Apr 14 00:20
bnchs__Also lurk moar. "Apr 14 00:20
mateybut i feel so cynical, i cant doubt it stronglyApr 14 00:20
mateyHe used to be even more extreme. Now he's softened his opinions because he was threatened with getting his funding cut. <- right?Apr 14 00:21
mateythats not the only reasonApr 14 00:21
mateyhe was also attacked by a 3000-strong mobApr 14 00:21
mateyfor weeks/months/yearsApr 14 00:21
bnchs__"Stallman talks are peak autism, but they are really fun to attend to. If you have never been to one I recommend going, it attracts weird people. "Apr 14 00:21
mateybut its cool, because now we can give them fucking awardsApr 14 00:21
mateyit attracts weird people.  <- it used toApr 14 00:22
bnchs__"Goddamn, I respect RMS so much. Are there even any other passionate free software advocates like him? Even many Linux users are mocking him that he's too "strict". I can't even think of the vacuum that will be here after he dies. "Apr 14 00:23
mateyits gonna be so many opportunistsApr 14 00:23
mateyeven if someone okay gets in in his placeApr 14 00:23
mateytheyll be out in 6 monthsApr 14 00:24
mateymaybe THEY will accept an invitation to something that still stands for freedomApr 14 00:24
mateybecause rms isnt going toApr 14 00:24
mateymaybe he will live to be 90 thoughApr 14 00:25
bnchs__">muh librebooted old ass thinkpads >muh apple walled garden this jew is basically reciting /g/ threads "Apr 14 00:25
MinceRwhy waste your attention on imageboards thoughApr 14 00:25
bnchs__i went on /g/ only this dayApr 14 00:26
mateyheres a chance for leah to run circles around libreboot and show the idea worksApr 14 00:26
mateylets see what happensApr 14 00:27
bnchs__just to see if there was a threadApr 14 00:27
bnchs__and trolls planningApr 14 00:27
mateybecause libreboot isnt making new machines libreApr 14 00:27
mateyif osboot can free anything, thats a proof of conceptApr 14 00:27
mateyi mean in the sense of moving something from free-ish to libreboot-freeApr 14 00:27
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mateyi think its safe to say nowApr 14 01:02
mateynothing more is really going to come out of the fsfApr 14 01:02
matey"if we had more people" yeah, well, the fsf wants fewer peopleApr 14 01:03
mateyno one outspokenApr 14 01:03
mateywe arent going to get honesty out of lieplanetApr 14 01:03
mateywe arent going to get strategy because you need (paying) members for that!Apr 14 01:03
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mateybut we will get (copyleft) free culture licenses violated because not being able to remix a speech is more important than the wishes for an artist for you to respect freedomApr 14 01:05
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mateyso if you want libre planet to be libre, wait a few weeks and then do your own libreplanetApr 14 01:06
mateyand if you want the fsf to fight for your freedom, do your own thing because the fsf... whateverApr 14 01:06
mateymaybe if enough people do their own thing, eventually they will find a way to organiseApr 14 01:07
mateywhich is probably better than waiting another 7 years for the fsf toApr 14 01:07
mateyfortunately techrights isnt fsf or we would have to follow the safe coc tooApr 14 01:08
matey/me watches roys version for shits and giggleApr 14 01:13
mateywhy is roy and everything around him whiteApr 14 01:14
mateyi mean allowApr 14 01:15
activelowthe rms talk isn't uploaded yet... Apr 14 01:15
mateyit isApr 14 01:16
activelowwhere?Apr 14 01:16
mateywell, roys copyApr 14 01:16
mateyill linkApr 14 01:16
matey 14 01:16
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mateypage and videoApr 14 01:16
mateyive already watched it but this one is loaded with swastikas and racial slurs :)Apr 14 01:17
bnchs__thanks 4chanApr 14 01:17
bnchs__why is roy's webcam B&WApr 14 01:19
mateyprobably so it works in geminiApr 14 01:19
matey/me cant even guessApr 14 01:19
mateyroy is VERY VERY VERY allowApr 14 01:20
mateyat least the sound is goodApr 14 01:20
bnchs__lol the stream lagApr 14 01:20
bnchs__in roy's videoApr 14 01:20
activelowdidn't watch videos for monthApr 14 01:20
MinceRi don't think gemini cares about the details of a video streamApr 14 01:23
MinceRit's just a resource that you might be able to download, though you probably don't want to use the gemini protocol for thatApr 14 01:23
MinceRiirc it can't even resumeApr 14 01:23
matey i don't think gemini cares about the details of a video stream <- nah i was just joking about oldschool vs b&wApr 14 01:25
mateyim actually a huge fan of gemini and id be happy if 90% of the web switched to it insteadApr 14 01:26
mateymaybe oreApr 14 01:26
mateymoreApr 14 01:26
bnchs__i wish rms could talk againApr 14 01:29
bnchs__it didn't even last 2 hoursApr 14 01:30
bnchs__just 1 hour and 30 minsApr 14 01:30
bnchs__or somethingApr 14 01:30
mateyso the talk was an hourApr 14 01:30
mateythen q&a went on about as longApr 14 01:30
bnchs__they probably had to pack fast, because the trolls were rampingApr 14 01:30
mateybut the video roy posted is preable / waiting for the video to startApr 14 01:30
mateyplus he stopped at a&aApr 14 01:31
mateyi dont really have a problem with this, ive seen the whole thing and im watching it a 3rd time because im very boredApr 14 01:31
mateyit was this or random youtube shitApr 14 01:32
mateyive been busy this week so i dont feel badApr 14 01:32
mateymincer "come get cancelled with us" :)Apr 14 01:32
bnchs__also there were tons of references to chuck's feed and seed in #fsfApr 14 01:32
bnchs__usernames and shitApr 14 01:32
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bnchs__get it because sneed's feed and seed, formeraly chuckApr 14 01:33
bnchs__chuck's fuck and suckApr 14 01:33
mateythats an old jokeApr 14 01:33
mateyi think pump up the volume had a guy named "charles u. farley"Apr 14 01:33
matey"chuck you farley"Apr 14 01:34
mateythis is literally the first time ive seen rms live in any contextApr 14 01:36
mateywhile hes actually streamingApr 14 01:36
mateyand yes, i DID see the two seconds of video where it was actually videoApr 14 01:36
mateyroy was rdosed by rsyncApr 14 01:37
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activelow 14 02:35
activelow--- "END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS" ---Apr 14 02:35
activelowend then next, a clause, which is _not_ contained in the license itself: "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs"Apr 14 02:36
activelowhowever, this restriction (to prevent linking non-free by whatever defintion) is _not_ mentioned within the GPL2 license terms itself.Apr 14 02:37
matey end then next, a clause <- thats not a clause, its an explanationApr 14 02:37
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activelowit is an invalid claim against the license terms which does _not_ contain the limitationApr 14 02:38
mateyhowever, this restriction (to prevent linking non-free by whatever defintion) is _not_ mentioned within the GPL2 license terms itself. <- im quite certain it is covered within the licenseApr 14 02:38
activelowit is an invalid claim against the license terms which do _not_ contain the limitationApr 14 02:38
mateynoApr 14 02:38
activelowit is _not_ covered in the license _explicitely_Apr 14 02:38
mateyif you like, ill try to find the language that refers to this restrictionApr 14 02:38
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activelowneither "linking" nor "does not permit incorporating into proprietary programs"; the GPL2 license simply does not contain this limitation, it doesn'tApr 14 02:39
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activelowif i modify any GPL2 licensed library, then without doubt GPL2 applies with copyleft etc,; yet when linking against GPL2 library (without modification to any such GPL2 library or it's header), the license terms are _undefined_Apr 14 02:41
matey2. b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.Apr 14 02:42
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mateylinking is considered a derivative.Apr 14 02:42
mateyif all you have to do for it NOT to be a derivative is shove it in a separate file, what good is that?Apr 14 02:42
activelow2. b) contradicts "author's rights", which is the author decides upon the license terms of his _own_ workApr 14 02:42
mateythe author doesnt have a right to determin the license of OTHER worksApr 14 02:43
activelowand next, linking is an _insufficient_ criteria to decide wether any program is a derivative work or notApr 14 02:43
mateyif its not sufficient, then there is a giant loophole that makes the license pointless.Apr 14 02:44
mateyas far as authors rights, the author has a right to choose gpl if they want to use the gpl work in their software. Apr 14 02:44
mateyor create a derivative.Apr 14 02:44
mateythey also have a right to not choose gpl, and not have access to the gpl work,Apr 14 02:45
mateybut they dont have the right to relicense the gpl work (and thats also because authors rights includes the rights to choose gpl)Apr 14 02:45
activelowagain, this misses the question if _linking_ suffices to define "derivative work", which it doesn't; linking is a necessary criteria, yet it is insufficientApr 14 02:45
mateyagain, this misses the question if _linking_ suffices to define "derivative work", which it doesn't; linking is a necessary criteria, yet it is insufficient <- so if you choose a license...Apr 14 02:46
activelowlinking against a library does _not_ relicense such libraryApr 14 02:46
mateybut it violates the license of that libraryApr 14 02:46
mateywhich says what terms the library can be used underApr 14 02:47
activelowno, a license does _not_ define what a derivative work is, in particular GPL2 which does not explicitey forbid linking proprietary, it simply doesn'tApr 14 02:47
mateya license does _not_ define what a derivative work is <- but linking is derivative regardlessApr 14 02:47
matey which does not explicitey forbid linking proprietary <- it forbids non-free derivativesApr 14 02:47
activelowwhich opens a gigantic loophole, for both, undesirable linking, or undesirable sanctioning of itApr 14 02:48
activelowand wrong again, it forbids non-free derivatives for a library itself, which is clearly stated within the license, yet it does not explicitely forbid linking into proprietaryApr 14 02:49
activelowand linking is not a sufficient criteria to define a derivative workApr 14 02:49
activelowthe loophole being, if the definition of a derivative work was strict, any GPL program couldn't be run on any IBM MS Wintel system (typically compilers/libc add proprietary stuff to achieve this)Apr 14 02:50
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activelow--- "END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS" ---Apr 14 02:51
activelowand anything blow this line is not part of the GPL2, including statement such as "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs"Apr 14 02:52
activelowif this is an explanation, then it could be contained _within_ the GPL2 license terms, yet it isn't.Apr 14 02:52
activelow*belowApr 14 02:53
mateythe license states what youre able to doApr 14 02:54
mateythe explaination just makes it easier for people to understandApr 14 02:54
mateythe other thing that matters is what happens when these things go to courtApr 14 02:54
mateythat cant be included in the license itselfApr 14 02:54
mateybut it affects our understanding of how the license worksApr 14 02:54
activelowthe cornerstone of proof seems to be, GPL2 programs being available for ms windows, which they can't be, without linking into proprietary stuffApr 14 02:54
mateyif the program is separate, its not derivativeApr 14 02:55
mateyif its linked, its not separateApr 14 02:55
mateyusing gpl software on windows is okayApr 14 02:55
mateylinking works in two directionsApr 14 02:55
mateya gpl program can link to the winapiApr 14 02:55
activelow"General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs"; well, it does _not_ forbid it. doesn't it?Apr 14 02:55
mateythe winapi cannot link to a gpl programApr 14 02:56
activelowand this "explanation" isn't at least part of the license text itself, to repeat myselfApr 14 02:56
matey"General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs"; well, it does _not_ forbid it. doesn't it? <- same thing in lawyerese.Apr 14 02:56
mateydoes not permit = it is not permitted = it is forbiddenApr 14 02:56
mateyremember the default is ALL RIGHTS RESERVEDApr 14 02:56
mateyA R R + does not permit = it is not permittedApr 14 02:57
activelowthe license terms neither explictely forbid nor permit itApr 14 02:57
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MinceRif the GPLv2 was written correctly, from its actual terms it already follows that it forbids incorporating the covered program into a proprietary programApr 14 02:58
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MinceRthat line is only supposed to explain this to non-juristsApr 14 02:58
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activelowthe "explanation" is irelevant, because it isn't contained within the license text added to source filesApr 14 02:59
MinceRindeedApr 14 02:59
activelowand the license terms are only clarified upon of what's recognized as a "derivative work"; yet linking into non-free does not suffice as a criteria for a "derivative work"Apr 14 02:59
MinceRalso, afaik they don't give a legal definition for what "proprietary" is anywayApr 14 02:59
MinceRafaik linking is considered to produce a derivative work, bit IANALApr 14 03:00
activelowimagine this, if i wanted to publish (and only then copyleft enforcement is relevant, simply modifying some source text on my local pc does not enforce copyleft, even whem GPL2 implies differently)Apr 14 03:01
activelowyet, if i published, i couldn't at least be certain, copyleft remained intact if any of my lib was linked into proprietary, for both technical and legal reasonsApr 14 03:01
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activelowif linking is considered sufficient to define a "derivative work" of any gpl2 piece, then this contradicts the fact gpl2 programs are available for ms windows; you can't have both.Apr 14 03:10
activelowin this case, such a gpl2 program at least requires some proprietary libc linked against, which then "incorporated" gpl2 into proprietary softwareApr 14 03:11
DaemonFCMom's always surprised she has all these horrendous car repair bills.Apr 14 03:12
DaemonFCI tell her "Watch your transmission fluid and don't ever let it turn brown.".Apr 14 03:13
DaemonFCI get her car, it's brown, it's leaking, I have to service it right away.Apr 14 03:13
DaemonFC:PApr 14 03:13
DaemonFCThings like that.Apr 14 03:13
DaemonFCI decided I couldn't afford another "free" car from mom.Apr 14 03:13
activelowand if it isn't libc, there is dozens of other headers included, almost certainApr 14 03:14
activelowis linking against libc a derivative work, or isn't it? who is a derivative of whom then?Apr 14 03:14
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activelowlong story short, linking is a necessary criteria, yet it is _insufficient_; and lgpl2 doesn't address this issue either, to explicitely _forbid_ (not permit) linking with a clear definition this sufficiently defined a derivative workApr 14 03:19
activelowif this "explanation" was contained within the license therms, i would feel comfortable with regards to clarity of license terms: "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs"Apr 14 03:22
activelownonetheless, the gpl2 does _not_ contain itApr 14 03:22
mjg59_activelow: That's what the system library exception is forApr 14 03:22
mjg59_It lets you distribute GPLed code for proprietary operating systemsApr 14 03:22
mjg59_"However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary form) wiith the major components (compiler, kernel and so on) of the operating system"Apr 14 03:23
mjg59_So there's no conflict in the FSF's assertion about derivation hereApr 14 03:24
activelowthe uncertainty of GPL2 (3?) cannot be removed, as soon as any such piece of GPL software is touched, which is the critical aspect of GPLApr 14 03:24
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activelowi do _not_ want any program of mine being available to MS/IBM WintelApr 14 03:25
activelowthe only options FSF offers then is: touch none of GPL/LGPLApr 14 03:26
mjg59_When you say that, do you object to the platform on principle or do you object because they're non-free?Apr 14 03:27
activelowtechnical qualities of the platform, legal issues, and US politicsApr 14 03:28
mjg59_Ok, that sounds like a violation of freedom 0Apr 14 03:28
activelowthe presence of GPL inside MS/IBM Wintel realm itself is a violation of the license ("incorporation")Apr 14 03:29
mjg59_No it isn'tApr 14 03:30
activelowthe advertising clause of BSD was neat, since BSD license must be "advertised", yet advertising requires the permission of the author; and this at least is compatible with "author's rights"Apr 14 03:32
mjg59_You're getting very close to a Joerg Schilling interpretation of the GPL, and that did not end wellApr 14 03:33
activelowi think, the GPL2 (3?) copyleft are _weaker_ than i expectedApr 14 03:48
activelowGPL2 copyleft in the hands of some free developer are practically ineffective often, given the fact how often documentation of sources are missing, to support some hardware etc.Apr 14 03:49
activelowand since corporations control alot of what's GPL, it is those corporations who can enforceApr 14 03:50
activelow"communities"Apr 14 03:51
mjg59_Anyone who contributes to a GPLed project is in a position to enforce, as long as there's no CLA requiredApr 14 03:52
activelow^ enforce GPL on ones _own_ contribution derivatives, i cannot sue IBM to release BIOS source codes, verilog for x86 (not that i wanted any of this crap on my desk)Apr 14 03:53
mjg59_No, because they're not derivatives of any GPLed codeApr 14 03:54
activelowsureApr 14 03:54
mjg59_GPL was never intended to make proprietary software disappear, and it's not in a position toApr 14 03:56
mjg59_It was intended to ensure that everyone who received a GPLed work had the right to modify it as neededApr 14 03:56
mjg59_And to share those modifications as neededApr 14 03:56
activelowwhich is moot, at a lower level realm of computingApr 14 03:57
activelowcontrolled by, corporations, pentagon, USA, whoeverApr 14 03:57
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activelowthat's why, the misnomer of "free software" is perpetuated, intentionally or not, since it is a comfortable arrangement, to imply this is where GPL2 ended, no copyleft enforcement anymore down thereApr 14 04:00
activelowinstead, the _USA_ 1984 semiconductor protection act, as one exampleApr 14 04:01
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AdmFubarwhat a giant crock this is... Apr 14 05:03
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, April 13, 2022 full archive: #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextApr 14 05:08
techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now available as plain text @ #dweb #sharingApr 14 05:08
techrights-newsStable Kernels: 5.17.3, 5.16.20, 5.15.34, and 5.10.111 β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 05:09
techrights-newsThe 8 Best Free Flatpak Games Available on Linux β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 05:09
techrights-news5 Reasons Why Fedora Feels Like the New Ubuntu β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 05:09
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 05:09
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techrights-news"I got a bunch of replies with tools I hadn’t heard of, so I thought I’d make a list here. A lot of people also pointed at the modern-unix list." β˜› | Source: Julia EvansApr 14 05:13
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techrights-news"But I didn’t automate that to save time, I automated it to save focus. I need to think to write out my whole address." β˜› | Source: ButtondownApr 14 05:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AI software from Uniphore, Sybill and Zoom detects customer emotions - ProtocolApr 14 05:14
techrights-news"In the mid-2000s, an upstart Linux distribution became both the most exciting and the most popular version around: Ubuntu." β˜› | Source: Make Use OfApr 14 05:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 5 Reasons Why Fedora Feels Like the New UbuntuApr 14 05:14
techrights-newsMX Linus β˜› | Source: Make Use OfApr 14 05:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | MX Linux Casually Drops Version 21.1, Codenamed "Wildflower"Apr 14 05:16
techrights-news"Much of this is obvious; the bit that may not be is that 'focal' is the code name for Ubuntu 20.04." β˜› | Source: uni TorontoApr 14 05:17
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techrights-news"I reluctantly connected an ESP32 to a breadboard and wired the SPI flash IC to the ESP's hardware SPI peripheral." β˜› | Source: Tobias MΓ€delApr 14 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | tbspace - In a pinch: Flashing a PC BIOS with an ESP32Apr 14 05:18
techrights-news"We’re going to make a USB keyboard you can use to enter text quickly and unobtrusively, even in the dark." β˜› | Source: Raspberry PiApr 14 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Make a chord keyboard with Raspberry Pi Pico and CircuitPython - Raspberry PiApr 14 05:18
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techrights-news"I’ve learned so much from watching other people code." β˜› | Source: EarthlyApr 14 05:24
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techrights-news"Over a year ago, I left the role of software engineering* behind to become a site reliability engineer* at Honeycomb" β˜› | Source: Fred HerbertApr 14 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Errors are constructed, not discoveredApr 14 05:24
techrights-news"Given a binary tree, a target node and a positive integer K on it, the task is to find the sum of all nodes within distance K from the target node" β˜› | Source: Geeks For GeeksApr 14 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sum of nodes within K distance from target - GeeksforGeeksApr 14 05:25
AdmFubarwounldnt it be better if they fixed the broken and back-doored code??? 14 05:25
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techrights-newsIt's been long gone, like fifteen years long gone. Why are you still asking? gemini:// 14 05:26
techrights-newsJust an observation, nothing more gemini:// 14 05:26
techrights-news"American politics are a complete farce. And unfortunately we are a superpower so this is everyone on the globe’s problem" gemini:// 14 05:28
techrights-newsBike vs Bus 1-0 gemini:// 14 05:29
schestowitz(Cat) gemini:// 14 05:29
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techrights-news"both have various issues, one being that many file formats are known by multiple names. MIME is also often overly lengthy, and also names things strangly. for example, the default type for the whole system is "application/octet-stream"." gemini:// 14 05:30
techrights-news"deep learning algorithm can remove city noise from earthquake monitoring tools, potentially making it easier to pinpoint when and where a tremor occurs." β˜› | Source: New ScientistApr 14 05:30
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techrights-news"Japan’s space debris removal company" β˜› | Source: Asia TimesApr 14 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Japan cosmic cleanup firm is part of space arms race - Asia TimesApr 14 05:31
techrights-news"Let’s look at an updated example. You and your team have two weeks to complete a relatively simple bug fix. Realistically, it should only take a few hours" β˜› | Source: AtlassianApr 14 05:32
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techrights-news"How to Use Parkinson’s Law to Get More Done in Less" β˜› 14 05:32
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techrights-news"At their best, small non-elite colleges can spur innovative ideas and foster great minds" β˜› | Source: Times Higher EducationApr 14 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | When I had to pass mediocre students, I quit | Times Higher Education (THE)Apr 14 05:33
techrights-news"This attempted attack involved a wide variety of malware, according to ESET, including the recently discovered CaddyWiper." β˜› | Source: The VergeApr 14 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ukraine says it stopped a Russian cyberattack on its power grid - The VergeApr 14 05:35
techrights-newsWindows TCO β˜› | Source: The RecordApr 14 05:35
techrights-newsWindows TCO β˜› | Source: The RecordApr 14 05:35
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techrights-newsWindows TCO β˜› | Source: The RecordApr 14 05:37
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techrights-news"For some customers, JIRA and some other Atlassian products have been down for an entire week." β˜› | Source: Matt RickardApr 14 05:37
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techrights-news"(Significantly, Sony previously came up with $250 million for a 2020 round from Epic Games, which was then valued at a comparatively modest $17.3 billion.)" β˜› | Source: Digital Music NewsApr 14 05:37
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techrights-news"Surprisingly, there is very little history available online about the DOS versions of LapLink, and I’m not sure when its parallel cable was actually introduced." β˜› | Source: Frederic CambusApr 14 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | File transfers via the parallel port on DOS using LapLink | Frederic CambusApr 14 05:37
techrights-news"holy grail" β˜› | Source: The VergeApr 14 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Behind Mark Zuckerberg big plans for AR glasses - The VergeApr 14 05:39
techrights-news[Old] "As a concept for integrating cyberwarfare systems, the US Cyber Command created the Joint Cyber Operations Architecture (JCWA) " β˜› | Source: Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States - Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:40
techrights-news[Old] "In August 2021 the US Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) awarded to the cybersecurity firm" β˜› | Source: Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States, part 2 - Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:40
techrights-news"The US Army Ground Vehicle Systems Center, in collaboration with Texas-based Southwest Research Institute (SwRI), has developed a new Intrusion Detection System (IDS)" β˜› | Source: Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States, part 3 - Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:41
techrights-news"NATO is developing new cloud technologies to establish technical standards in the field and ensure interoperability among Member States." β˜› | Source: Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States, part 4 - Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:41
techrights-news"there don’t seem to be much β€œobjective” data available that would either support or invalidate these reports besides a BGP-level view of prefixes" β˜› | Source: SANSApr 14 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm CenterApr 14 05:43
techrights-news"In recent weeks, American officials have warned that Russia could try to expand its cyberwarfare β€” perhaps even by disrupting American pipelines and electric grids" β˜› | Source: New York TimesApr 14 05:43
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techrights-news"Following efforts by the US and others to address cryptocurrency standards" β˜› | Source: Computer WorldApr 14 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Following US moves, UK looks to regulate crypto, create government token | ComputerworldApr 14 05:45
techrights-news"Tesla solar panels and Megapack batteries are being deployed in Texas in order to mine bitcoin with 100 per cent renewable energy." β˜› | Source: The Independent UKApr 14 05:45
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techrights-news"His dream home was not owned by a person but by a tech company." β˜› | Source: MIT Technology ReviewApr 14 05:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | House-flipping algorithms are coming to your neighborhoodβ€” despite the losses | MIT Technology ReviewApr 14 05:50
techrights-newsMicrosoft β˜› | Source: The VergeApr 14 05:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | California governor has been interfering in Activision Blizzard lawsuit - The VergeApr 14 05:50
techrights-news"We worked with our community to submit comments in this proceeding. We’ll describe the high notes here." β˜› | Source: Internet SocietyApr 14 05:55
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techrights-newsNews Guard are Microsoft boosters and censorship company β˜› | Source: Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How TikTok is being used as propaganda machinery during war time - Modern DiplomacyApr 14 05:58
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β–…β–†β–†β–†β–†β–…β–„β–ƒβ–β–β–‚β–„β–…β–†β–…β–β–†β–„β–‚β–ˆβ–‚β–‚β–†β–ƒβ–β–‚β–ƒβ–†β–„β–…β–‡β–…β–‡β– avg(k/sec) 23.88 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–β–β–‚β–‚β–‚β–‚β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–β–ˆβ–‚β–β–ˆβ–‚β–β–‚β–β–ƒβ–„β–ˆβ–β–‚β–β–„β–ˆβ–‚β–‚β–β–‚β–‚β–ˆβ– avg(k/sec) 91.13β–• swarm size (avg): 332.48  βŸ²Apr 14 05:59
techrights-news"Former Brown University professor and current president of Heterodox Academy John Tomasi is hoping to see that direction change." β˜› |Apr 14 05:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Former professor says too many college students are self-censoring | KJZZApr 14 05:59
techrights-news"EU co-legislators agreed β€˜in principle’ on a ban on adverts targeting minors and utilising sensitive data, in the DSA." β˜› | Source: EuractiveApr 14 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digital Brief: DSA fourth trilogue, DMA diverging views, France’s fine for Google – EURACTIV.comApr 14 05:59
techrights-news"Reforming Section 230 won’t help with content moderation on online platforms, observers said Monday" β˜› | Source: Broadband BreakfastApr 14 05:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Reforming Section 230 Won't Help With Content Moderation, Event Hears : Broadband BreakfastApr 14 05:59
techrights-news"because he will get copyright infringement" β˜› |Apr 14 06:06
techrights-news"Lewis was one of more than 50 gig workers killed while driving for companies like Lyft, Uber and DoorDash since 2017, according to a new report" β˜› | Source: NPRApr 14 06:06
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techrights-newsLOL. 1%. "The survey of more than 10 million Microsoft devices by Lansweeper’s PC management software showed 1.44% now run Windows 11, an increase from the 0.52%" β˜› | Source: Computer WorldApr 14 06:09
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techrights-news"The Offeror will announce the preliminary percentage of the Shares validly tendered during the Subsequent Offer Period on or about April 29, 2022" β˜› |Apr 14 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Next Games | Final Result of Netflix, Inc.’s Voluntary Recommended…Apr 14 06:09
techrights-news"Netflix is set to acquire Finnish gaming company Next Games." β˜› | Source: YLEApr 14 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Netflix to take over Finnish gaming company | News | Yle UutisetApr 14 06:09
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techrights-news"The Commission has information that Microsoft may be using its potentially dominant position in certain software markets" β˜› | Source: ReutersApr 14 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft's cloud business targeted by EU antitrust regulators | ReutersApr 14 06:11
techrights-news"Crook was talking about the Open Markets Act, which would forbid app stores with more than 50 million domestic users from requiring app developers from using in-app payment options" β˜› | Source: Broadband BreakfastApr 14 06:11
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techrights-news"According to notes published alongside the release of OpenSSH 9.0, the open-source group will now use the hybrid Streamlined NTRU Prime" β˜› | Source: Security WeekApr 14 06:12
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techrights-news"The website will serve as a gateway to the CCB before the full opening of the board to users of copyrighted materials later this spring." β˜› | Source: Digital Music NewsApr 14 06:13
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techrights-news"Santiago joins the company from Meta (formerly Facebook), and will partner with Vice’s existing creative and editorial teams." β˜› | Source: VarietyApr 14 06:13
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techrights-news"We see tons of projects with the infamous β€œBlue Pill” STM32 boards" β˜› | Source: HackadayApr 14 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arming With An OS | HackadayApr 14 06:14
techrights-news"If there’s one thing audiences love in sci-fi, it’s a cute robot companion that follows the heroes around." β˜› | Source: HackadayApr 14 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2022 Sci-Fi Contest: A Hand-Following Robot, Powered By Arduino | HackadayApr 14 06:15
techrights-news"A spectrum visualizer is always a fun project, but we really liked [Yannick99]’s take on it since it uses seven IN-13 Nixie tubes for the display." β˜› | Source: HackadayApr 14 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nixie Spectrum Display Has Seven Bands | HackadayApr 14 06:18
techrights-newsNSA back doors or security? β˜› | Source: Krebs On SecurityApr 14 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Patch Tuesday, April 2022 Edition – Krebs on SecurityApr 14 06:19
techrights-newsGulagtube β˜› | Source: Torrent FreakApr 14 06:19
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techrights-news"Most people file online, making this month a virtual playground for cybercriminals trying to steal your identity or financial info." β˜› | Source: PIAApr 14 06:20
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techrights-news"That energy storage is a hot topic is hardly a surprise to anyone these days." β˜› | Source: HackadayApr 14 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Future Of Energy Storage On Both Sides Of The Meter | HackadayApr 14 06:20
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techrights-news"As Mike noted the other day, state after state has been playing β€œfuck around and find out” with all sorts of bills that fundamentally interfere with the First Amendment and Section 230." β˜› | Source: TechdirtApr 14 06:24
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techrights-news"It’s disappointing and shameful that a United States Senator would endorse a riot, especially a riot intended to challenge the indisputably legitimate election of the President of the United States." β˜› | Source: TechdirtApr 14 06:25
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schestowitz-TRschestowitz: gmApr 14 06:28
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: gmApr 14 06:28
SomeH4x0rhiApr 14 06:29
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techrights-news"On any given day you can find a stellar array of phenomenal reporting in the pages of the New York Times. On any other day you can also find a rotating crop of terrible gibberish" β˜› | Source: TechdirtApr 14 06:31
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mateyheyApr 14 06:32
techrights-newsTwitter won't immediately die. It'd failing, so it'll get warped into something else and then die. Same for Facebook.Apr 14 06:32
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leahschestowitz-TR: do you know if rms addressed the microcode issue?Apr 14 06:56
leahi only care about the talk because someone asked him about by policy regarding cpu microcodeApr 14 06:56
leahhe alluded to libreboot lol. but i don't think he'd talk about microcode, because the topic of osboot would come upApr 14 06:58
leahand according to his email, he's "not against what i'm doing" :PApr 14 06:58
leahthe man is ahypocriteApr 14 06:58
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▂▃▄▃▅▁▄▅▄▂▆▄▄▅▄▆▅▄▅▃▄▃▄▅▅▅▁▆▅▆▁▅▆▅▇▇▁ avg(k/sec) 20.23 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–ˆβ–‚β–ˆβ–β–β–ˆβ–β–‚β–‚β–‚β–β–‚β–β–β–β–‚β–β–β–‚β–…β–ˆβ–β–ƒβ–‚β–‚β–ˆβ–ˆβ–‚β–ƒβ–‚β–‚β–‚β– avg(k/sec) 108.55β–• swarm size (avg): 340.56  βŸ²Apr 14 06:59
leahan absolute hypocriteApr 14 06:59
SomeH4x0rhaving a few people represent the entire free software movement is the reason I wanted to sign anti-RMS letterApr 14 06:59
leahi have better things to do than listen to this talkApr 14 07:00
leahi'll go do that nowApr 14 07:00
leahrms talks about freedom. i do more for freedom than he does, and i have the courage to tell the truth about microcode, about hardware, etcApr 14 07:01
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psydruidare his own and his family's and friends' positions in the hardware world the reason why he has never wanted to discuss hardware freedom?Apr 14 07:11
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matey<SomeH4x0r> having a few people represent the entire free software movement is the reason I wanted to sign anti-RMS letterApr 14 07:16
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matey^ there is no need to smear rms to avoid having a few people representing the entire free software movementApr 14 07:16
mateythe movement is falling apart on its ownApr 14 07:17
mateyall you need to do is grab a piece and do what you will (hopefully something good) with itApr 14 07:17
leah"I don't think what you're doing is horrible."Apr 14 07:17
leahthis is from an email on 25 March 2021, written by rms, regarding osbootApr 14 07:18
matey<leah> rms talks about freedom. i do more for freedom than he does <- that may be true today, but he created the movement you serveApr 14 07:18
leahthis is why i call rms a hypocriteApr 14 07:18
mateyive spent literally years watching the "state of free software" and ive been focused mostly on its futureApr 14 07:18
leahhe's not privately against osboot. but talks shit about it (merely not by name) by talking about microcode stuffApr 14 07:18
mateyi recognise leah as a likely key figure (one of many) in that futureApr 14 07:19
mateywe need more people doing things like this.Apr 14 07:19
leahmatey: i want to completely smash that world you're dreaming of, because that world has me or someone else as the "supreme leader"Apr 14 07:19
leahi don't want supreme leadersApr 14 07:19
leahi want a collective. a federationApr 14 07:19
mateythat world has me or someone else as the "supreme leader <- not at allApr 14 07:19
leahwe've discussed it before, so there's no need for me to repeat itApr 14 07:19
matey i want a collective. a federatio <- ive been talking about a federation for yearsApr 14 07:19
leahoh sorry, i misreadApr 14 07:20
mateyin fact ill explain how and why i started talking about a federationApr 14 07:20
leah"one of many" is what you actually wroteApr 14 07:20
mateyi misread <- no worries at allApr 14 07:20
leah"many" is the keyword hereApr 14 07:20
mateyoriginally i intended to "fork" the fsfApr 14 07:20
leahdon't bother. let it rotApr 14 07:20
mateythen i wanted to make my fork easier for other people to fork.Apr 14 07:20
leahthe federation will comeApr 14 07:20
mateyyesApr 14 07:20
leahit's already hereApr 14 07:20
leahsomeone just needs to put a name on itApr 14 07:20
leahi've moved the date for launching fedfree to summer of 2022Apr 14 07:21
mateythen i decided that people had no interest in forking the fsfApr 14 07:21
mateywell what youre doing does more to fulfill what ive been talking about than it contradicts itApr 14 07:21
mateyi never imagined that every "node" would be the sameApr 14 07:21
mateyrather that each would have strengths and weaknessesApr 14 07:22
mateyand that the federation (the whole) would fuse those together-- like the movement itself is intended to (even the original movement)Apr 14 07:22
mateybut since forking an organisation is boring and no fun, i figured there should be a "lighter-weight option" even years agoApr 14 07:22
mateyand that these satellite mini-orgs, or "labs" instead of forking an entire org, could join together under "umbrella orgs" which were larger and cared about more mundane organisational tasksApr 14 07:23
mateyof course this is all probably more elaborate than it needs to beApr 14 07:24
mateythe real point is federation itself.Apr 14 07:24
mateyand you can see other people (like leah) arriving at this on their own, which suggests even more that its a viable idea.Apr 14 07:24
mateywhats really great about the federation, imo, has two partsApr 14 07:25
mateyfirst: the movement gains a futureApr 14 07:25
mateythe fsf doesnt seem to have oneApr 14 07:25
mateysecond: the movement does not have to sit under a failing, monolithic org. why repeat that mistake?Apr 14 07:25
mateyof course one of the most important things is that this not turn into open sourceApr 14 07:26
mateymost of my more elaborate concerns are about avoiding that sort of courseApr 14 07:26
mateyi consider open source to be bait-and-switch. i want real freedon.Apr 14 07:26
mateyfreeddomApr 14 07:26
mateyand maybe a better keyboard.Apr 14 07:26
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mateythe choice of "lab" for nodes is no mistake. we should be doing research on how to further free softwareApr 14 07:30
mateyosboot is doing that kind of researchApr 14 07:30
mateylibreboot is failing (as far as i can tell) as a way to get freedom over boot firmwareApr 14 07:31
mateyosboot is a different approachApr 14 07:31
leahhave you ever considered the true role gnu has had in free software?Apr 14 07:31
mateyif libreboot is sufficient, we probably dont need osboot. if libreboot is failing, the floor needs to be open to ideasApr 14 07:31
leahwhen you actually look at history, you'll find that there is another community which also gained traction in the 80s and 90s, on a completely different origin, but with the same goalApr 14 07:32
mateyhave you ever considered the true role gnu has had in free software? <- i consider it the original flagship of the movement-- but one that has failedApr 14 07:32
mateywhen you actually look at history <- im very interested in that historyApr 14 07:32
mateybut what are you referring to exactlyApr 14 07:32
leahBSD predates GNUApr 14 07:32
activelowGPL2 (3?) copyleft is too weakApr 14 07:32
mateyactivelow just became a contract lawyer tonightApr 14 07:33
leahand BSD's origin is literally unix itselfApr 14 07:33
mateyyesApr 14 07:33
mateybsd predates gnuApr 14 07:33
leahbefore linux started, gnu was on the fringesApr 14 07:33
mateyhowever there were two people who more than any other, pushed for bsd to become free (theres one other factor i should mention and will)Apr 14 07:33
mateythose people were richard stallman and john gilmoreApr 14 07:34
activelowgpl copyleft wasn't too weak (both legally and technically) in the beginning, to attract various developers; nowadays it is insufficientApr 14 07:34
leahand it's only a historical accident that the distros used gnuApr 14 07:34
mateythere was one other factor in bsd becoming freeApr 14 07:34
mateyand that account is told be kirk mccusickApr 14 07:34
leahi think if gnu and linux never started, bsd would have been the thing everyone uses. and i think libre software would be in about the same position its in nowApr 14 07:34
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mateya lot of companies wanted bsd to be under a license that allowed them to put it on chips on expansion boardsApr 14 07:35
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mateyso these three factors led to a free/open version of bsdApr 14 07:35
mateynot i almost never say free/open but here i might as wellApr 14 07:35
matey1. companies wanted it 2. stallman pushed for it 3. john gilmore pushed for itApr 14 07:35
mateythe most free version of bsd by far (in policy and reality) is openbsd, unless you count hyperbola (openbsd-based)Apr 14 07:36
leahwhat about netbsd and freebsd?Apr 14 07:36
mateyfreebsd imo is the least free of these, in ways i can detailApr 14 07:37
leahgo on thenApr 14 07:37
mateynetbsd is in the middle but includes non-free driversApr 14 07:37
activelowbsd hasn't got any copyleft clause, stating the obvious; and even with gpl widespread corporations molest devs and usersApr 14 07:37
mateyopenbsd comes from netbsd but has a much stricter policy about driversApr 14 07:37
mateyhyperbola extends that policy to firmware (openbsd has no interest in doing that)Apr 14 07:37
mateyopenbsd isnt a movement, its a project. they dont want to do firmware.Apr 14 07:38
mateytheir policy reflects thisApr 14 07:38
mateybut they dont tolerate non-free driversApr 14 07:38
mateyfreebsd has its package management tied into github. policy documents too. Apr 14 07:38
mateyive heard they have a policy about free drivers, but i didnt spent 10 fucking years migrating from dos and windows just to get all my "free software" from ibm and microsoft againApr 14 07:39
mateymonopoly has to dieApr 14 07:39
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mateyso it matters to me how forkable an os is. freedom 3 in reality, not just on paperApr 14 07:39
mateyopenbsd is the most forkableApr 14 07:39
mateyi think netbsd is probably the second most forkableApr 14 07:40
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mateyeverybody else seems to want a dick sucking contest with microsoft and ibm, im not interested (personally)Apr 14 07:40
leahi'm actually against what hyperbola is doing with openbsd btwApr 14 07:40
leahi'm against fsdgApr 14 07:40
activelowideally, GPL could prohibit the deployment of any individual peace of free software into IBM Wintel realm; at any level beginning inside firmwares and wherever elseApr 14 07:40
leahi'm also against proprietary firmwareApr 14 07:40
activelow*pieceApr 14 07:40
mateyi'm against fsdg <- im not a huge fan of fsdgApr 14 07:40
leahbut i think removing them solves nothingApr 14 07:40
leahin fact, i think that does more harmApr 14 07:41
mateyi understand and respect your position on thisApr 14 07:41
leahpeople won't use your libre OS if their hardware doesn't workApr 14 07:41
mateynote im presently using openbsd anywayApr 14 07:41
leahfirmware is unfortunately neededApr 14 07:41
leahi want that firmware to be thereApr 14 07:41
leah*firmware*Apr 14 07:41
leahnot driversApr 14 07:41
mateyi really liked using trisquel, back when it was less of a jokeApr 14 07:41
mateybecause i was SURE it wouldnt work-- and it did!Apr 14 07:41
mateybut, its a complex issue becauseApr 14 07:41
mateyif you look around, we are all fucked on the hardware front, unless we want to be owned by intel forever.Apr 14 07:42
leahwait what?Apr 14 07:42
mateyand amd is no betterApr 14 07:42
leahin what way is trisquel a joke now?Apr 14 07:42
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leahmy opinion about it has changed over the years, but i can't see that the project has changed at all over the yearsApr 14 07:42
leahthey seem to still be doing a decent job, technically, on the OSApr 14 07:42
mateyin what way is trisquel a joke now? <- im sure my rant about trisquel will be the least interesting part of this to you. would you like to save that part for some other time and focus on the rest?Apr 14 07:42
leahokApr 14 07:43
mateycheersApr 14 07:43
mateybut what i mean isApr 14 07:43
mateyabuot the restApr 14 07:43
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mateyif we want to move past being serfs of x86Apr 14 07:43
mateya goal that you, myself and my associates shareApr 14 07:43
mateytrisquels approach probably does not serve that goal.Apr 14 07:43
mateynor does hyperbolas Apr 14 07:43
leahtrisquel does support arm nowApr 14 07:44
mateyand this is because of the fsdgApr 14 07:44
mateytrisquel does support arm no <- coolApr 14 07:44
leahto be clear, i agree with youApr 14 07:44
leahi'm merely being factualApr 14 07:44
mateyi see linux as a dead end Apr 14 07:44
mateyno i think facts are extremely importantApr 14 07:44
mateyand underratedApr 14 07:44
mateyso is context, and i think you do justice to bothApr 14 07:44
mateyto be clear, i dont idolise you or anythingApr 14 07:45
mateyi admire what youre doing and i think its importantApr 14 07:45
mateywe need more people doing this sort of thingApr 14 07:45
*schestowitz-TR does tooApr 14 07:45
mateyyoure setting an exampleApr 14 07:45
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schestowitz-TR(re " i admire what youre doing and i think its important")Apr 14 07:46
mateywhen we are looking for examples of people who understand the future of free softwareApr 14 07:46
mateywe dont have a lot of examples right now. obviously sam zeloof is fucking important tooApr 14 07:46
mateywhat sam zeloof is doing right now is such a big fucking deal he could be one of the more important names of the 21st centuryApr 14 07:47
mateylike edison or tesla in the 20thApr 14 07:47
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leahyes, his name matters a lotApr 14 07:49
leahmore people need to know about sam zeloof and the libre silicon projectApr 14 07:49
mateyof course its what hes actually doing that mattersApr 14 07:49
mateyi actually heard about sam zeloof from you and one other person (you first) the same weekApr 14 07:49
mateyit was so close together i said to the other person "wait, did you tell me about him or did i tell you?"Apr 14 07:49
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mateythey were just as excited as you or iApr 14 07:50
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mateyi was a kid when i foresaw fpgas. i compare hearing about sam zeloof to the first time i saw a picture of an fpga on the cover of scientific americanApr 14 07:51
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mateyi liked eeproms. seemed like a likely candidate for future computing developments.Apr 14 07:51
matey"of course these will replace floppies"Apr 14 07:51
mateyi realise theyre not exactly the same as nand flash. theyre certainly close enough for meApr 14 07:52
leahmatey: you probably heard about sam's work from ariadne firstApr 14 07:52
mateyand i honestly dont know exactly how fpgas work, but whats important is they do what i Apr 14 07:52
leahshe promoted it, and then someone else linked it on a mailing listApr 14 07:52
leahand then i saw itApr 14 07:52
mateyno, i did not hear about sams work from ariadne, even if she talks about him constantly (which i havent noticed but i dont follow her closely)Apr 14 07:52
matey<leah> she promoted it <- thats goodApr 14 07:53
leahactually i'm a bit fuzzy tooApr 14 07:53
mateythe important thing is that everybody understands that homemade cpus are not 20 years off in the futureApr 14 07:53
mateythey need to consider the implications of this for computing and freedomApr 14 07:54
leahanyway, the thing to realize about sam's work is that's how things should have been in the 80sApr 14 07:54
leahhis work is correcting a mistakeApr 14 07:54
mateyagreedApr 14 07:54
leahpeople think of software in a vacuumApr 14 07:54
leahbut hardware is the first stepApr 14 07:54
leahthe *first* stepApr 14 07:54
mateyyes, thats a mistakeApr 14 07:54
leahsoftware comes from hardwareApr 14 07:54
leahyou write software to run on a particular processorApr 14 07:54
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mateyive been saying since 2018: "free software, free culture, free hardware"Apr 14 07:54
leahor you write a compilerApr 14 07:54
leahdon't say freeApr 14 07:55
leahsay libreApr 14 07:55
leahfree is confusingApr 14 07:55
leahi try to avoid the word "free" these daysApr 14 07:55
leahi'll either say freedom-respecting, or libreApr 14 07:55
mateyim fine with libreApr 14 07:55
leahi have to go pack some orders for shippingApr 14 07:55
leahi'll be back laterApr 14 07:55
mateycheersApr 14 07:55
leahjust had my porridge. now i will have coffeeApr 14 07:55
leahfun fact about porridge: it's a pain in the ass to do it in the microwaveApr 14 07:56
matey/me goes to make teaApr 14 07:56
leahit always explodesApr 14 07:56
leahlike a volcanoApr 14 07:56
mateyi just boil waterApr 14 07:56
mateyi dont own a microwaveApr 14 07:56
mateywater boils faster in a pan than a potApr 14 07:56
leahi have nothing to cook porridge with on my stoveApr 14 07:56
leahjust a pot for doing pasta/soup inApr 14 07:56
leahcould use a pan actuallyApr 14 07:57
mateyi do my tea in a panApr 14 07:57
leahpan porridgeApr 14 07:57
leahmatey: do it in water, with just the oats. sprinkle in some cinnamon, and slice up some bananas and cook them with the oatsApr 14 07:57
mateyminus the bananas, plus maple, thats what i do, yesApr 14 07:58
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mateycheersApr 14 07:58
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leahi'll stick around for a bit while i sip my coffeeApr 14 08:01
mateypans already onApr 14 08:01
leahmatey: banana and cinnamon goes greatApr 14 08:02
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leahmix in the cinnamon with the oats and waterApr 14 08:02
leahslice the banana rigorously. thin slices. mix it inApr 14 08:02
leahcook it together, in the panApr 14 08:02
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leahcould always use milk too, but i don't usually buy milkApr 14 08:02
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leahbanana and cinnamon in porridge. breakfast for championsApr 14 08:03
mateyi use milk. around here i get shit for it :)Apr 14 08:03
schestowitz-TRgranola!Apr 14 08:03
leahshit for it?Apr 14 08:03
schestowitz-TRwith tons of sugar!Apr 14 08:03
leahdo you live with vegans?Apr 14 08:03
mateyyeah wannabe vegans in hereApr 14 08:03
mateyno i mean in this channelApr 14 08:03
mateyits ok, i think its funnyApr 14 08:03
leahmatey: i was vegan for a full yearApr 14 08:03
leahi did it for scienceApr 14 08:03
schestowitz-TRthen want to thailandApr 14 08:03
schestowitz-TR*wentApr 14 08:04
mateyim not against people being veganApr 14 08:04
mateybut i put milk in my teaApr 14 08:04
leahveganism is pointlessApr 14 08:04
leahthat's what i concludedApr 14 08:04
leahbut:Apr 14 08:04
leahhere in europe and north america, we eat far too much meat and dairyApr 14 08:04
leahfar too muchApr 14 08:04
leahwe need to eat about 10% of the meat and dairy we currently consumeApr 14 08:04
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leahi have meat in about 1 in every 8 meals? otherwise, usually beans and lentils or something. or mushrooms and peasApr 14 08:05
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schestowitzveganishsmApr 14 08:05
leahyou can get calcium from broccoliApr 14 08:05
leahand kaleApr 14 08:05
leahmost of my meat consumption is fishApr 14 08:06
leah1 pint of milk per week. that's the maximum amount of dairy anyone should consume, imoApr 14 08:06
leah1 pintApr 14 08:06
schestowitz-TRin brews?Apr 14 08:06
matey/me drinks his teaApr 14 08:06
leahschestowitz-TR: british tea is disgustingApr 14 08:07
leahjasmine/green/mint tea is betterApr 14 08:07
leah(without milk)Apr 14 08:07
*schestowitz-TR goes to make a teapotApr 14 08:08
leahschestowitz-TR: i'm considering reviving my cooking blogApr 14 08:08
leahi used to have a cooking section on my blogApr 14 08:08
schestowitz-TR"cooking with jasmine"Apr 14 08:08
leahschestowitz-TR: i've been experimenting ever since living costs went up recentlyApr 14 08:08
leahschestowitz-TR: for the past 2 weeks, i've been spending Β£0.50 to about Β£0.80 on food dailyApr 14 08:08
leahand eating 3 very decent meals dailyApr 14 08:08
leahat my local morrisons, if you go there at certain times in the day, you get stuff for pennies, close to expiryApr 14 08:09
mateyclose to expiry is greatApr 14 08:09
leahso i just go there every day. and usually spend less than Β£1 for the whole day's worth of foodApr 14 08:09
leah(rice/oats purchased fortnightly)Apr 14 08:10
leahschestowitz-TR: and i haven't lost weightApr 14 08:10
leahand i'm eating wellApr 14 08:10
leahgonna do a cooking blog, but it'll be named:Apr 14 08:10
leahHow to eat for Β£1 a dayApr 14 08:11
schestowitz-TRwow, without bargsins?Apr 14 08:11
leahno, bargainsApr 14 08:11
schestowitz-TR[08:09] <leah> at my local morrisons, if you go there at certain times in the day, you get stuff for pennies, close to expiryApr 14 08:11
schestowitz-TRThat's what we doApr 14 08:11
leahi've eaten nothing but reduced items for 2 weeksApr 14 08:11
schestowitz-TRyes, under a pound a day is doableApr 14 08:11
leahgot a freezer full of breadApr 14 08:12
leahlolApr 14 08:12
leahbig loafs for Β£0.06Apr 14 08:12
schestowitz-TRbut wait, some stuff you cannot get discounted, coffee for example..Apr 14 08:12
leahyeahApr 14 08:12
schestowitz-TRthat's what aldi is forApr 14 08:12
leahbig Β£3 jar will last you a month thoughApr 14 08:12
leah2 weeks if you drink it heavilyApr 14 08:13
schestowitz-TRmoi? noApr 14 08:13
leahyeah wellApr 14 08:13
leahgonna get solar installed hereApr 14 08:13
mateytea i get is about the same price, lasts 3 months (asian variety, just leaves no bags)Apr 14 08:14
leahbecause fuck paying Β£200 a month on electricityApr 14 08:14
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leahi use a lot of electricityApr 14 08:14
schestowitz-TRcomputers?Apr 14 08:14
schestowitz-TRwe have 8 turned on all the timeApr 14 08:15
mateyand equipment Apr 14 08:15
schestowitz-TRand bill for two, gas inc., under 100 a monthApr 14 08:15
leahschestowitz-TR: what are they running thoughApr 14 08:15
leahmy computers are regularly running stuffApr 14 08:15
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matey/me wonders how much juice leahs soldering iron goes through in a monthApr 14 08:15
schestowitz-TRleah: mostly idleApr 14 08:15
leahschestowitz-TR: depending on your tariff though, they still charge you daily, even if you don't use anythingApr 14 08:16
schestowitz-TRyesApr 14 08:16
schestowitz-TRit's a trickApr 14 08:16
schestowitz-TRlike ISPs with line rentalApr 14 08:16
leahyepApr 14 08:17
matey/me is glad it didnt work out with the one in the ukApr 14 08:17
leahso even with solar panels, you still pay some monies for electricityApr 14 08:17
leaheven if you never dip into mainsApr 14 08:17
leahone 4k panel will power an average homeApr 14 08:17
leahincluding at night (battery backup wired into the panel's supply)Apr 14 08:17
leahyou can get money back for energy you don't use though, that gets fed back into the gridApr 14 08:18
mateypay your tarrif with itApr 14 08:18
leah(if you have solar)Apr 14 08:18
leahschestowitz-TR: if you don't have kids and are single, living can be very cheapApr 14 08:19
leahschestowitz-TR: the only reason i live by myself is because i run a business hereApr 14 08:19
leahif i didn't have minifree, i'd go into a shared accomodationApr 14 08:19
schestowitz-TRcouple without kids is cheaper than singleApr 14 08:19
leahme and like 5 other people. sharing a houseApr 14 08:19
schestowitz-TRassuming both workApr 14 08:19
leahwe'd all just split costsApr 14 08:19
leahthis is an unpopular opinion but it is a fact also: you can live for <Β£300 a month in the UKApr 14 08:20
schestowitz-TRtrueApr 14 08:20
schestowitz-TRI calculated this beforeApr 14 08:20
schestowitz-TRif you share Internet alsoApr 14 08:20
leahyes, shared costsApr 14 08:21
leahcommunal livingApr 14 08:21
schestowitz-TRthat used to be the normApr 14 08:21
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schestowitz-TRhere in manchester library they have exhibits re old housesApr 14 08:21
leahif i didn't have minifree, i'd only need a suitcase with clothes, and my laptop and phoneApr 14 08:21
leahand then i'd live in a communeApr 14 08:21
schestowitz-TRand how families would share a lot in common buildingsApr 14 08:21
schestowitz-TRlike a flood or room per >family<Apr 14 08:22
leahschestowitz-TR: i spend more on coffee and toothpaste than food lolApr 14 08:22
schestowitz-TRleah: nomad like is very rms-likeApr 14 08:22
leahthere's a problem though, and it's not my problem, but:Apr 14 08:23
leahif everyone does what i do, then it would be impossibleApr 14 08:23
schestowitz-TRbut I figured a long time ago that part of stability is minimising the reqsApr 14 08:23
leahthe way i live depends on others being wastefulApr 14 08:23
leahso i'm not really being efficientApr 14 08:23
leahi'm just exploiting other people's greedApr 14 08:23
matey<leah> i'm just exploiting other people's greed <- if everyone did what you did, it would work even betterApr 14 08:23
schestowitz-TRmany geeks exploit misconrehension of techApr 14 08:23
schestowitz-TRand charge people a lot for very very simple tasksApr 14 08:24
leahlike flashing coreboot on a chip?Apr 14 08:24
leah:PApr 14 08:24
schestowitz-TRif you have practiceApr 14 08:24
schestowitz-TRlike people paying lawyersApr 14 08:24
schestowitz-TRto do very simple thingsApr 14 08:24
schestowitz-TRbut do they 'right'Apr 14 08:24
leahspeaking of lawyersApr 14 08:24
leahi read an interesting article in the guardian the other dayApr 14 08:24
leahlet me pull it upApr 14 08:24
schestowitz-TR*them 'rightApr 14 08:24
leahschestowitz-TR: 14 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | β€˜Unnecessary and irresponsible’? No – barristers are striking because justice is being denied | The Secret Barrister | The GuardianApr 14 08:25
mateystrikes are very popylar right nowApr 14 08:25
SomeH4x0rsomeone send me this link on another channel:Apr 14 08:25
SomeH4x0r*sentApr 14 08:25
leahthis is from a public defense lawyerApr 14 08:25
SomeH4x0r 14 08:25
leahwell, here in UK call it legal aid solicitorApr 14 08:25
SomeH4x0rthe direct link is 14 08:25
-AltLink_b60/#techrights-πŸ“£ CloudFlare: | πŸ™† Alternative: 14 08:25
leahright now if you're in the UK, you can't get legal aid easilyApr 14 08:26
leahyou have to pay for a private lawyerApr 14 08:26
SomeH4x0rso, another "alternative" for avoiding CloudflareApr 14 08:26
SomeH4x0rschestowitz-TR: ^?Apr 14 08:26
schestowitz-TRit can be uploaded somewhereApr 14 08:26
leahschestowitz-TR: btw, i think the tories are going to elect a new leader in the summerApr 14 08:26
schestowitz-TRbut many image cds use clownflareApr 14 08:27
schestowitz-TRclownflare loses moneyApr 14 08:27
leahprobably liz trussApr 14 08:27
schestowitz-TRit operates at a loss to give incentive to people to enter the jailApr 14 08:27
schestowitz-TRsame as youtube in past yearsApr 14 08:27
leahok, coffee is consumedApr 14 08:27
leahtime to get to workApr 14 08:27
schestowitz-TRwe wrote about  liz trussApr 14 08:27
schestowitz-TRhang on..Apr 14 08:27
leahi actually think she's the least evil of them. her policy about trans people is very troubling, thoughApr 14 08:28
schestowitz 14 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law β€” Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold | TechrightsApr 14 08:28
schestowitzin relation to the protestsApr 14 08:28
leahschestowitz: she's the best person to lead the tories though, if they want to win the next general electionApr 14 08:29
schestowitz-TRshe seems okApr 14 08:29
schestowitz-TRwe wrote good things about herApr 14 08:29
leahif boris is still leader at that time, labour will winApr 14 08:29
SomeH4x0rit seems it *does* work with other stuff, though only certain file extensionsApr 14 08:29
SomeH4x0re.g. no SVGApr 14 08:29
leahschestowitz-TR: and i actually don't want a labour governmentApr 14 08:29
leahright now, under current climate, they'd actually be worseApr 14 08:30
mateylabour is avoiding a labour government tooApr 14 08:30
schestowitz-TRthe party isn't the only factorApr 14 08:30
schestowitz-TRbut the systemApr 14 08:30
schestowitz-TR[22:45] <techrights-news> 651 COVID-19 Deaths Reported in the UK Today (63.4% Increase This Past Week Alone) 14 08:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ Β» HealthApr 14 08:31
leahschestowitz-TR: labour would actually cause me to have less money per month. no more. lessApr 14 08:31
leahbut the current tories are bastardsApr 14 08:31
leahi want a moderate (e.g. liz truss) to lead it, and for them to better fund public servicesApr 14 08:31
mateytories are like wal mart Apr 14 08:31
mateylow prices. they just take it out of something else.Apr 14 08:32
leahi'd support a more moderate tory governmentApr 14 08:32
leahthe one we have right now is hard-right authoritarian garbageApr 14 08:32
leaha more libertarian-style tory party would be idealApr 14 08:32
schestowitz-TRborisnaro might be remembered as worse than theresa mayApr 14 08:32
schestowitz-TRsince he took power we've been barely keeping the basic rightApr 14 08:33
schestowitz-TRon all frontsApr 14 08:33
leahi'd vote for them, depending who they have in chargeApr 14 08:33
schestowitz-TRlocal election comingApr 14 08:34
leahschestowitz-TR: but that depends on a lot of ifsApr 14 08:34
leahschestowitz-TR: i'm boycotting itApr 14 08:34
schestowitz-TRI just help greens hereApr 14 08:34
schestowitz-TRwhere I live tories get fewer votes than greensApr 14 08:34
leahyeah don't you have a labour mayor there?Apr 14 08:34
leahup in manchesterApr 14 08:34
schestowitz-TRmy area of itApr 14 08:34
mateySomeH4x0r <- i dont follow what the difference between the two links is supposed to beApr 14 08:35
leahschestowitz-TR: ever since corbyn's labour fell apart, i abandoned leftwing politicsApr 14 08:35
leahi only respected labour when corbyn was in chargeApr 14 08:35
leahright now, they're no different than the toriesApr 14 08:35
mateythats true mostlyApr 14 08:35
leahbut at least the tories are honest about who they are and what they stand forApr 14 08:36
SomeH4x0rmatey: one link is Cloudflare, the other link is an image proxyApr 14 08:36
mateyoh a proxyApr 14 08:36
mateyok coolApr 14 08:36
schestowitz-TRleah: ok, i worried that you hated corbynApr 14 08:36
SomeH4x0rit seems it only works on certain file extensions thoughApr 14 08:36
schestowitz-TRwhat they did to corbyn has a lot in common with the anti-rms uprisingApr 14 08:36
mateymaybe its by mime typeApr 14 08:37
mateysvg is textApr 14 08:37
leahschestowitz-TR: i do hate corbyn. what he stands for. he would have been a disaster. but i respect him, because he was honest and no-nonsense about everythingApr 14 08:37
leahschestowitz-TR: theresa may and priti patel are the main cause of the current authoritarian streak in the conservative governmentApr 14 08:37
leahtwo really bad home secretaries, enacting draconian laws limiting our freedomsApr 14 08:38
schestowitz-TRso you want liz?Apr 14 08:38
leahi'd argue that the two individuals mentioned are fascists. not toriesApr 14 08:38
schestowitz-TRi'm all in favour btwApr 14 08:38
schestowitz-TRfrom what I've read of herApr 14 08:38
schestowitz-TRI met may in person more than 20 years agoApr 14 08:38
leahshe's a moderate. liz i meanApr 14 08:38
leahshe's on the moderate wing of the partyApr 14 08:39
schestowitz-TRwell, if they respect and grasp justice, that's a startApr 14 08:39
leahi'm not 100% comfortable with her though because of her policy about trans peopleApr 14 08:39
schestowitz-TRmany authoritarians come from business schoolsApr 14 08:39
leahshe's opposed to trans teens getting access to careApr 14 08:39
leahshe thinks you should be at least 16 to get puberty blockers, for instanceApr 14 08:39
SomeH4x0rjust never have childrenApr 14 08:40
schestowitz-TRor a lot fewerApr 14 08:40
leahbut. i don't think she comes from a position of hatred, just ignoranceApr 14 08:40
schestowitz-TRwe need SOME childrenApr 14 08:40
SomeH4x0rwhy?Apr 14 08:40
schestowitz-TRextinctionApr 14 08:40
leahand i think she could be convinced. with a robust campaign from the trans communityApr 14 08:40
SomeH4x0rwhy not?Apr 14 08:40
mateypatel is a monsterApr 14 08:40
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: ask MinceRApr 14 08:41
leahmatey: want me to make you hate patel even more?Apr 14 08:41
mateywhy notApr 14 08:41
schestowitz-TRmaybe the cats will want to keep some species of humans in a zooApr 14 08:41
leahmatey: priti patel used to be a lobbyist for tobacco companiesApr 14 08:41
mateyhehApr 14 08:41
SomeH4x0rchildren are slaves of the parents. This system needs to be abolished or there will always be such annoyances.Apr 14 08:41
schestowitz-TRthat''s your personal experienceApr 14 08:42
mateychildren are slaves of the parents. This system needs to be abolished <- doableApr 14 08:42
schestowitz-TRi helped my parents voluntarilyApr 14 08:42
schestowitz-TRsome suggested letting the state take over the kidsApr 14 08:42
schestowitz-TRI'm not sure i condone thisApr 14 08:42
SomeH4x0ra sirenApr 14 08:42
schestowitz-TRmany parents ay least love their kidsApr 14 08:42
mateythe state isnt really the answerApr 14 08:42
schestowitz-TRstates are instrument of the powerfulApr 14 08:42
mateytake care SomeH4x0rApr 14 08:42
leahschestowitz-TR: but yes, aside from her policy about trans teenagers, i think liz truss would make a great prime ministerApr 14 08:43
mateystates are instrument of the powerful <- trueApr 14 08:43
leahschestowitz-TR: kier starmer would be terrible in no10Apr 14 08:43
mateyleah: do you get a lot of shit from fellow trans activists for this stance?Apr 14 08:43
leahmatey: yesApr 14 08:43
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: sad to hearApr 14 08:43
leahi've been blocked on twitter, many timesApr 14 08:43
leahit's why i avoid being political on twitter nowadaysApr 14 08:43
leahi'm in an extreme minority:Apr 14 08:44
leah> non-binaryApr 14 08:44
leah> asexualApr 14 08:44
leah> conservative viewsApr 14 08:44
schestowitz-TRleave twitterApr 14 08:44
leahmost of my kind are leftieApr 14 08:44
schestowitz-TRit's BSApr 14 08:44
mateyyep, youre fuckedApr 14 08:44
schestowitz-TRand getting worseApr 14 08:44
leahschestowitz-TR: i promote my company thereApr 14 08:44
leahi don't use it for social purposesApr 14 08:44
schestowitz-TRthere may be better ways to promote the companyApr 14 08:45
leahmatey: conservative lgbt activists do exist in number, thoughApr 14 08:45
schestowitz-TRwith same effort levelsApr 14 08:45
mateyoh yeahApr 14 08:45
leahmatey: did you know the conservative party has more openly lgbt MPs than labour?Apr 14 08:45
leahit has *more*Apr 14 08:45
mateyformer libertarian. we still get along.Apr 14 08:45
leah26 at presentApr 14 08:45
leah22 in labourApr 14 08:45
leahmatey: also:Apr 14 08:45
leah 14 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | LGBT+ Conservatives |Apr 14 08:45
mateymatey: did you know the conservative party has more openly lgbt MPs than labour? <- labour is a fucking farce right nowApr 14 08:45
leahit's a thingApr 14 08:46
mateyso it doesnt surprise meApr 14 08:46
leahmatey: also, TERF / gender-critical crowd has a stronger presence in labour than in the tory partyApr 14 08:46
mateythe world is usually more interesting than one persons views after allApr 14 08:46
leahi actually think a labour government would be worse for trans peopleApr 14 08:46
leah*worse*Apr 14 08:46
leahlolApr 14 08:46
matey matey: also, TERF / gender-critical crowd <- yeah, nina paley makes me sadApr 14 08:46
mateyi used to buy her stuffApr 14 08:47
leahthat's whyApr 14 08:48
leahon balanceApr 14 08:48
leahi think a tory government lead by liz truss is the best thing right nowApr 14 08:48
techrights-news"We speak with Starbucks Workers United organizer and barista Jaz Brisack on the growing Starbucks union drive that has swept across 30 U.S. states since she helped successfully organize" β˜› | Source: Democracy NowApr 14 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 200 Starbucks & Counting: Barista Jaz Brisack Says Union Busting Can’t Stop Worker Solidarity | Democracy Now!Apr 14 08:48
leahher views come from ignorance, not hatred, and i think she could be turned. with a rigorous campaign from lgbt activistsApr 14 08:48
leahi distinguish our adversaries like that. i put them in two groups:Apr 14 08:49
leah* ignorance-basedApr 14 08:49
leah* hate-basedApr 14 08:49
mateyeither way, one would think that being trans doesnt mean giving up your right to a political opinion of your own, eh?Apr 14 08:49
leahhate-based is people like boris johnson and jacob rees mogApr 14 08:49
leahignorance-based is people like david cameron and liz trussApr 14 08:49
mateyher views come from ignorance, not hatred, and i think she could be turned <- good stuffApr 14 08:49
techrights-news"The term β€œneoliberalism” is often used to condemn an array of economic policies associated with such ideas as deregulation, trickle-down economics, austerity, free markets, free trade" β˜› | Source: The NationApr 14 08:49
-AltLink_b60/#techrights-πŸ“£ CloudFlare: | πŸ™† Alternative: 14 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Has Neoliberalism Really Come to an End? | The NationApr 14 08:49
leahand what you have to realize is:Apr 14 08:49
leahthe person in charge is more exposed to many groups of peopleApr 14 08:50
leahtrying to convince the current tory leadership to support us is follyApr 14 08:50
mjg59_leah: Has the party ever apologised for section 28?Apr 14 08:50
leahthat's why i want them to have more moderate leadership, that's more likely to listen to usApr 14 08:50
leahmjg59_: not that i'm awareApr 14 08:50
leahactuallyApr 14 08:51
leahmjg59_: 14 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | David Cameron apologises to gay people for section 28 | David Cameron | The GuardianApr 14 08:51
techrights-news"A bit over 40 years ago the UK and the United Statesβ€”followed within a few years by most of the rest of western Europeβ€”embarked on a radical experiment in governance and economics" β˜› | Source: Common DreamsApr 14 08:51
-AltLink_b60/#techrights-πŸ“£ CloudFlare: | πŸ™† Alternative: 14 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | Autocrats Like Trump, Putin, and Le Pen Exploit Failures of Neoliberalism | Thom HartmannApr 14 08:51
leahmjg59_: our history is weird like that though:Apr 14 08:51
leah> tories oppose rights of an oppressed groupApr 14 08:51
mjg59_Oh gosh I missed thatApr 14 08:51
leah> left/liberal forces liberate usApr 14 08:51
leah> former oppressed group becomes first of former oppressed group to become leader... and it's a conservativeApr 14 08:52
leahtories have had 2 female prime ministers lolApr 14 08:52
leahmjg59_: cameron also supported marriage equalityApr 14 08:53
leahand one of his ministers came out as gay during his time in office, and he congratulated herApr 14 08:53
leah(justine greening)Apr 14 08:53
leah 14 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Justine Greening - WikipediaApr 14 08:53
mjg59_Yeah with hindsight various aspects of his social policy were not as bad as I'd expected them to beApr 14 08:53
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 | Techrights βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 14 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 | TechrightsApr 14 08:54
leahmjg59_: labour under corbyn would have been great for lgbt people, if it came to powerApr 14 08:54
leahbut starmer is a bastardApr 14 08:54
leaha cowardApr 14 08:54
mjg59_Oh yeah fuck that dudeApr 14 08:54
leahbeing dogged left and right by terfs. and he's giving in to themApr 14 08:54
leahboris is a bastard tooApr 14 08:54
mjg59_Utterly unprincipledApr 14 08:54
matey starmer is a bastard <- yesApr 14 08:54
leahi want liz truss to be next tory leader - and i predict she willApr 14 08:54
leahmjg59_: current tory leadership chaos will end. tories are good at thatApr 14 08:54
leahthey have a "system"Apr 14 08:54
leahwhen a leader goes foul, they chuck that leaderApr 14 08:55
leahi predict a leadership contest in the summer. and i think liz truss will winApr 14 08:55
mjg59_Yeah the observation that being brutal at throwing out leaders is beneficial for elections is fascinatingApr 14 08:55
leahmjg59_: there's a group within the tories called Conservative Home that regularly does polls among party membersApr 14 08:55
leahand their most recent poll around party leadership revealed that liz truss is a favourite among members of the partyApr 14 08:55
leahand looking at her speeches, the way she conducts herself, i think she'd be effectiveApr 14 08:56
mjg59_But it's also notable that bad press against potential Boris opponents has tended to show up shortly before bad Boris newsApr 14 08:56
techrights-news"Many of us have read about Stirling engines, engines which form mechanical heat pumps and derive motion from the expansion and contraction of a body of air." β˜› | Source: HackadayApr 14 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Home Made Stirling Engines From Expedient Materials | HackadayApr 14 08:56
techrights-news"We are used to dealing with warping when printing with thermoplastics like ABS, but metal printers suffer from this problem, too." β˜› | Source: HackadayApr 14 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reducing Warping In Metal 3D Prints | HackadayApr 14 08:56
leahmjg59_: the tory party is a well-oiled machine, optimized for winning electionsApr 14 08:56
leahboris will be out by the end of the summer. i predict itApr 14 08:56
leahhis time is overApr 14 08:56
leahbecause of the partygate stuffApr 14 08:56
mjg59_Yeah as a political engine they're very effectiveApr 14 08:57
mjg59_I'll admit that while hating basically 100% of what they stand for politicallyApr 14 08:57
leahmjg59_: but the only one i support to replace him is liz trussApr 14 08:57
leahmoderate tories are alright. they're the kind of people that are at least somewhat compassionate about othersApr 14 08:58
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▁▅▁▆▂▇▅▃▅▅▅▆▇▆▂▃▅▃▂▅▃▄▁▄▅▂▆▇▇▁▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 21.38 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–ˆβ–β–‚β–ƒβ–β–‚β–ˆβ–ƒβ–ˆβ–‚β–β–„β–β–‚β–‚β–ƒβ–‚β–‚β–‡β–β–„β–‚β–β–ˆβ–β–†β–β–‚β–‚β–β–β–β– avg(k/sec) 49.11β–• swarm size (avg): 315.96  βŸ²Apr 14 08:59
leahanywayApr 14 08:59
leahmjg59_: you might find this amusing:Apr 14 09:00
mjg59_The problem there is that Starmer has basically positioned Labour as the compassionate tory partApr 14 09:00
leahg 14 09:00
leah 14 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JustineGreening: Today's a good day to say I'm in a happy same sex relationship, I campaigned for Stronger In but sometimes you're better off out! #Pride2016Apr 14 09:00
mjg59_HaApr 14 09:01
leahmjg59_: starmer is a bastardApr 14 09:01
leahthe blairite wing of the labour party is in power againApr 14 09:01
leahin power of the labour party, that isApr 14 09:01
leahthey're currently stifling free speech within the party, silencing leftwing parts of itApr 14 09:02
mjg59_Urgh if only John Smith hadn't diedApr 14 09:02
leahthey threw out corbyn for exampleApr 14 09:02
leahthe anti-semite stuff was a smear campaign imoApr 14 09:02
leahthat, plus getting corbyn to back 2nd EU referendumApr 14 09:03
leahhe was doomed lolApr 14 09:03
leahthe old adage about the left eating its own assApr 14 09:03
leahit always comes trueApr 14 09:03
leahmjg59_: i respect people who are honest about who they are and what they stand for, even if i disagree with themApr 14 09:04
leahso i would have respected a labour government under corbynApr 14 09:04
leahbut i would have hated itApr 14 09:04
leahsimilarly, tory government under liz truss would be respectable imo. for the same reasonApr 14 09:04
techrights-news"News reports were everywhere that an autonomous taxi operated by a company called Cruise was driving through San Francisco with no headlights." β˜› | Source: HackadayApr 14 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Does Your Programmer Know How Fast You Were Going? | HackadayApr 14 09:04
leahi respect someone who stands up and says what they believe in, and then fights for thatApr 14 09:05
mateythe real goal of the labour party is a socialist europeApr 14 09:05
leahboris on the other hand, doesn't believe in anything. he just wants powerApr 14 09:05
mateybut certainly not under blair and his fakesApr 14 09:05
techrights-news"With conflicts raging over masks, books, and curriculums in the nation's public schools, you'd be forgiven for missing a noteworthy new proposal from the U.S. Department of Education." β˜› | Source: Common DreamsApr 14 09:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | Federal Spending on Charter Schools Needs Reform | Jeremy MohlerApr 14 09:05
leahcapitalism but with well-funded schools, hospitals, welfare state and justice systemApr 14 09:06
leahthat's what i wantApr 14 09:06
mateywhy capitalism then?Apr 14 09:06
leahwhen something is a natural monopoly, it better be run by the stateApr 14 09:06
mateyif you want the other bitsApr 14 09:06
leahmatey: see: natural monopoliesApr 14 09:06
leahif something inevitably will become a monopoly, the state should run it, as efficiently as possible, free at the point of use, funded by taxApr 14 09:06
mateyinterestingApr 14 09:07
leahso, hospitals for exampleApr 14 09:07
leahmatey: but that's only very few thingsApr 14 09:07
leahalmost everything else imo is fair gameApr 14 09:07
leahi don't support socialismApr 14 09:07
leahi used to. but i became disillusioned when i actually met real socialistsApr 14 09:07
leahi saw into their hearts and saw what they wereApr 14 09:07
leahcontrol freaksApr 14 09:07
matey<- socialist with a libertarian streakApr 14 09:08
mateyused to be the other way aroundApr 14 09:08
leahthat's what socialism is. an ideology that says "for the people, by the people" but what that means in practise is an authoritarian prick telling you how much money you're allowed to makeApr 14 09:08
mateybut what that means in practise <- yes that happens, its shitApr 14 09:08
leahso i say: capitalism but with decently funded public servicesApr 14 09:08
leahandApr 14 09:08
leahbasicallyApr 14 09:08
leahthat's the conservative partyApr 14 09:09
leahbut i'd never vote for them in their current form. the hard-right run itApr 14 09:09
leahtaken too far, capitalism is also badApr 14 09:09
leahmy views sit somewhere between the liberal democrats and the moderate wing of the conservative partyApr 14 09:09
leahwhen you think about it, capitalism is the greatest thing ever. but we also have things like nhs, welfare state etc that are also goodApr 14 09:10
leahlook at countries that have done socialism, or are currently doing itApr 14 09:10
matey when you think about it, capitalism is the greatest thing ever <- its a step forward from feudalismApr 14 09:10
leahthey're all poor. their people are starvingApr 14 09:10
mateya lot of them were inspired by stalinApr 14 09:11
mateystalin was EXCELLENT at starving and murdering peopleApr 14 09:11
leahunder capitalism, only a few people are poor. the rest are fine. and you protect the lowest in society with welfareApr 14 09:11
leahi do support the existence of a well-funded welfare stateApr 14 09:11
leahand the current tory party is ideologically gutting it, for like, no reason other than sadismApr 14 09:11
leahtories in the 90s were much better. under john major's governmentApr 14 09:12
leahwelfare was actually well-fundedApr 14 09:12
matey under capitalism, only a few people are poor <- im far too interested in your tech work to get in a big debate about poltics but i think this is the flaw in your logic Apr 14 09:12
leahthe unemployed had supportApr 14 09:12
leah(the blair government did increase payouts though)Apr 14 09:12
mateyblair was a messApr 14 09:12
techrights-newsPatents killing millions fopr profit β˜› | Source: Common DreamsApr 14 09:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Rich Nations, Big Pharma Still Blocking 'Early Exit' From Pandemic: ExpertsApr 14 09:12
mateyi was close friends with someone who worked for himApr 14 09:13
leahpre-iraq pre-afghanistan, blair was alrightApr 14 09:13
leahhe was basically liberalApr 14 09:13
leahliberals are okApr 14 09:13
leahliberal or moderate conservative is idealApr 14 09:13
leahmatey: but he was in charge of a party with lots of socialists in it :PApr 14 09:13
leahso he got dragged a bitApr 14 09:14
mateywell i use the term "left opportunists" a lotApr 14 09:14
mateyim not sure you believe theres a difference between the left and left opportunists. and i can appreciate why anyone might feel that way, having been there many times myselfApr 14 09:14
mateybut the people youre complaining about are left opportunists anywayApr 14 09:14
leahok, define left opportunistApr 14 09:14
mateyone might say "fake left"Apr 14 09:14
techrights-newsEFF still not sure if it likes censorship ("misinformation") or not. EFF should urge people to abandon social control media. It would solve many problems. β˜› | Source: EFFApr 14 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Civil Liberties Groups Urge Social Media Platforms to Better Protect Free Flow of Information in Crisis Zones | Electronic Frontier FoundationApr 14 09:15
mateywell an opportunist is someone who doesnt really give a shit about the causeApr 14 09:15
leahi assume you mean people like liz kendallApr 14 09:15
mateybut just rides it for their own personal reasonsApr 14 09:15
mateyi mean i dont follow most of the people in uk politics at the moment, its barely even a hobbyApr 14 09:15
leahare you in the uk?Apr 14 09:15
mateyi get exposed to bits and pieces of itApr 14 09:15
mateynot anymoreApr 14 09:15
leahokApr 14 09:15
techrights-newsSocial control media is no sacred cow. It's not social. It's not media. We need REAL media back.Apr 14 09:15
leahschestowitz-TR: at least elon musk isn't joining the board ;)Apr 14 09:16
leahthough he does have a stake in twitterApr 14 09:16
schestowitz-TRdoesn't matterApr 14 09:16
schestowitz-TRtwitter is bought and paid forApr 14 09:16
schestowitz-TRit's a tool of occupationApr 14 09:16
schestowitz-TRand it's about time to jump shipApr 14 09:16
matey/me predicted musks stake in twitterApr 14 09:16
mateyroy said it would collapse, i said it would become a vanity projectApr 14 09:17
leahmastodon thenApr 14 09:17
leahrun your own mastodon serverApr 14 09:17
mateyroy will still be right eventuallyApr 14 09:17
leahanywayApr 14 09:17
leahif i'm right, and the tories elect liz truss as their new leaderApr 14 09:17
schestowitz-TRtwitter is the next "truth social"|Apr 14 09:17
leahi will be voting for themApr 14 09:17
leahin the next electionApr 14 09:17
leahfuck labourApr 14 09:18
leahbut if they don't, and the current hard-right administration remains in place,Apr 14 09:18
leahthen i simply won't voteApr 14 09:18
techrights-news"For several years the Identity Project has been engaging with the Port of Seattle over its expansion of automated facial recognition to track travelers at Sea-Tac Airport" β˜› | Source: Papers PleaseApr 14 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Facial recognition signage at new Sea-Tac terminal flunks legal test – Papers, Please!Apr 14 09:19
leahmjg59_: tories are holding off for now, because council elections are next month. leadership contest right now would hurt their resultsApr 14 09:20
leahbut they also know they'll suffer next month regardless. boris is finishedApr 14 09:21
mateycouldnt happen to a nicer fellowApr 14 09:21
mateyat least he can get back to his busesApr 14 09:21
leaha few more partygate fines, and bad council election results: that will trigger enough discontent within the party, for MPs to write to 1922 committeeApr 14 09:22
leahand then a leadership contest will be triggered. i predict that it will happen in the summerApr 14 09:22
leah(1922 committee is the committee that runs the tory party. the leader answers to it)Apr 14 09:22
leahlabour is fucked. whoever they elect will be more sober minded and seriousApr 14 09:23
leahlabour's only chance to win in 2024 is if boris is still the party leaderApr 14 09:23
mjg59_I'd love to think so, and also a lot of the MPs have shown themselves to be pretty cravenApr 14 09:25
mjg59_But if I'm wrong, I'll be happy!Apr 14 09:25
matey/me is watching a video (on youtube) about a prototype version of the old testament which features in no small part a potentially homoerotic sun godApr 14 09:33
techrights-newsPatents killing millions of people β˜› | Source: TruthOutApr 14 09:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Health Experts: COVID Vaccine Inequity Is Still Endangering Millions of LivesApr 14 09:34
mateyand its a harvard lecture by someone who has devoted a great deal of his career to the topicApr 14 09:34
mateyi fucking love the internetApr 14 09:34
schestowitz-TRa shame as you will be heartbrokenApr 14 09:35
schestowitz-TRi am not telling you this because you do not knowApr 14 09:35
schestowitz-TRyou know too wellApr 14 09:35
techrights-newsProprietary Worlds and Open Alternatives gemini:// 14 09:36
mateyyes?Apr 14 09:36
techrights-newsCongratulations Apple! You made a laptop as annoying to use as Microsoft Windows gemini:// 14 09:37
techrights-news"The ideas that made Unix, hints for writing Unix tools, cron best practices, three different sorts of filesystem errors, LibreSSL 3.5.1 released, taskwarrior to manage tasks, and more." 14 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | BSD Now 450: Unix Tool WritingApr 14 09:43
techrights-news"Stuart Langridge, Jono Bacon, and special guest star Alan Pope present Bad Voltage, in which intelligence is artificial, snaps are un-ned, and art is what you make it" 14 09:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 3Γ—44: The Loch Dustbinness Monster | Bad VoltageApr 14 09:44
techrights-newsAudiocasts/Shows/Videos: Tidelift, TLLTS, BSD Now, and More β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Tidelift, TLLTS, BSD Now, and More | Tux MachinesApr 14 09:54
techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 14 09:55
techrights-newsThis is bollox. Bad advice. Gulag and the US government keeps ALL this data. 14 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Disable or Automatically Delete Google Location History - Make Tech EasierApr 14 09:58
techrights-news"FOSS Linux" has just posted WSL trash. These sites need to understand that WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux. It's hardly surprising that Microsoft booster promote this scheme to 'extinguish' GNU/Linux.Apr 14 10:11
techrights-news"FOSS Linux", what has happened to you? Discord cannot be deleted, the company keeps everything to possibly sell your data. Discord needs a boycott.Apr 14 10:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to delete a Discord server | FOSS LinuxApr 14 10:12
SomeH4x0rserver?Apr 14 10:15
SomeH4x0rfucking guildApr 14 10:15
schestowitz-TRyeahApr 14 10:15
schestowitz-TRwords lose their maningApr 14 10:15
schestowitz-TR*meaningApr 14 10:16
activelowanyone remembers a case, when GNU and/or FSF enforced GPL copyleft?Apr 14 10:16
schestowitz-TRslaveowners keep rebranding their slavesApr 14 10:16
techrights-newsMicrosoft TCO (or back doors TCO): "Microsoft has released an advisory to address CVE-2022-26809, a critical remote code execution vulnerability in Remote Procedure Call Runtime Library. A remote, unauthenticated attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system." 14 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Releases Advisory to Address Critical Remote Code Execution Vulnerability (CVE-2022-26809) | CISAApr 14 10:21
techrights-newsWindows TCO see 14 10:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | APT Actors Target ICS/SCADA Devices | CISAApr 14 10:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Stuxnet - TechrightsApr 14 10:22
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 14 10:23
techrights-news"Dark mode" has become a form of greenwashing. Just remember to buy another POS device every 3 years?Apr 14 10:23
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techrights-newsMicrosoft, Microsoft, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Kaseya (Windows)... 14 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | CISA Adds 10 Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISAApr 14 10:27
schestowitz-TRCISA must be run partly by MicrosoftersApr 14 10:28
schestowitz-TRThey save face and shift attention to FOSS in a negative light quite a lotApr 14 10:28
techrights-newsLoadingMessage component for Kirigami β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 10:29
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techrights-newsUbuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 10:31
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DaemonFC<mjg59_> I'd love to think so, and also a lot of the MPs have shown themselves to be pretty cravenApr 14 11:07
DaemonFCIt's politics, but the Democrat Party in the US is pretty bad.Apr 14 11:07
DaemonFCWe're dealing with a year's worth of inflation every month now and Biden is such an idiot he doesn't know how to fix it and such an asshole he doesn't even care.Apr 14 11:07
DaemonFCThey'd rather lose the election than do anything to help us.Apr 14 11:08
DaemonFCUnless Donald Trump comes back, Biden is one term and done.Apr 14 11:08
DaemonFCIF Trump comes back, it's a coin toss really.Apr 14 11:09
DaemonFCPeople don't like either one of them but Trump polls ever so slightly worse.Apr 14 11:09
DaemonFC 14 11:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Dan Brady - Positions on the Key IssuesApr 14 11:14
DaemonFCVote SaxonApr 14 11:14
DaemonFCAnyway, yeah, the DMV is pretty horrible. The Currency Exchange gets away with charging more because they get you in and out faster, they never close, and you can get your car title transferred and plates on the car in the middle of the night if you have to.Apr 14 11:15
DaemonFC 14 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | After months of living amid roaches and rodents, CHA allows mom of 6 to break lease | WGN-TVApr 14 11:17
DaemonFCMeanwhile, CHA leases space to Target and builds $1,800 a month micro apartments for hipsters.Apr 14 11:18
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techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 11:26
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techrights-newsRed Hat (ICBM) "The Great Resignation may be a myth or reality" says a collapsing company. They keep pushing this misleading spin or myth to blame the workers for getting laid off. 14 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Artificial intelligence (AI): 7 roles to prioritize now | The Enterprisers ProjectApr 14 11:32
techrights-newsBen Cotton: Balancing advancement and legacy spin from ICBM 14 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Balancing advancement and legacy – Blog FiascoBlog FiascoApr 14 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | TechrightsApr 14 11:33
techrights-news[COPR] Why my patches are missing from custom build 14 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [COPR] Why my patches are missing from custom build | Definite's ExtractorApr 14 11:34
techrights-news"When you write source code, you're writing code for humans to read. Computers can't execute source code until the code is compiled into machine language, a generic term referring to any number of languages required by a specific machine." 14 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A guide to JVM parameters for Java developers | Opensource.comApr 14 11:35
techrights-newsMy favorite build options for Go | βš“ δ·‰ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | LinuxApr 14 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My favorite build options for Go | Opensource.comApr 14 11:36
techrights-news"LINUX" is still a strong brand provided you don't add "Foundation" to itApr 14 11:38
techrights-news"Following The Qt Company's decision to withdraw support for the Russian market, KDAB's geolocation block of its website and Upwork stopping its operations in Russia, there's a likely need of Qt support in the country." 14 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Looking for Qt support? Get in touch! | MardyApr 14 11:40
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techrights-newsMicrosoft proxy CompTIA getting webspam and misleading puff pieces from 'FOSS'life 14 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tech Job Growth Continues to ClimbApr 14 11:42
techrights-news"I realized there was some sort of low-hanging fruit I could pick to better tune my WiFi at home. You see, I'm kind of a fraud in WiFi: I only started a WiFi mesh in Montreal (now defunct), I don't really know how any of that stuff works." 14 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tuning my wifi radios - anarcatApr 14 11:45
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 11:45
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DaemonFCWhen I first saw people switching to big rims and smaller tires for them I said "That looks retarded and it can't ride well and without the cheap rubber tire absorbing the shock it all goes straight into the expensive suspension components and wears them out faster. Why would anyone do that?".Apr 14 11:47
DaemonFCNow OEMs are putting that on as standard equipment and you need to buy new rims if you want away from it.Apr 14 11:48
techrights-newsDebian: Dirk Eddelbuettel, Antoine BeauprΓ©, and More Apt β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Debian: Dirk Eddelbuettel, Antoine BeauprΓ©, and More Apt | Tux MachinesApr 14 11:48
techrights-newsRazer-designed Linux laptop targets AI developers with deep-learning emphasis 14 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning | Tux MachinesApr 14 11:50
techrights-newsBoing Boing = webspam 14 11:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Six Linux courses that can take you from computer zero to hero quickly | Boing BoingApr 14 11:53
techrights-news"Training Bundle might even make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates." WTF?? 14 11:54
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techrights-newsBill gates: criminals since his teen years. Also: dumpster diver, stealing other people's code.Apr 14 11:55
techrights-newsBest Raspberry Pi Projects β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Best Raspberry Pi Projects | Tux MachinesApr 14 11:55
Techrights-secyes boingboing has been crap since corey left they shill M$ shift often andApr 14 11:56
Techrights-secloudlyApr 14 11:56
schestowitz-TRwhen asking cory in twitter about what BB was doingApr 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRhe was like, I have nothing to do with these peopleApr 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRvery dismissiveApr 14 11:57
Techrights-sec"make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates."Apr 14 11:58
Techrights-secwhat, does it come with a complementary NAMBLA membership?Apr 14 11:58
Techrights-secyes he probably feels burned because it was off to a good start while heApr 14 11:58
Techrights-secwas thereApr 14 11:58
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DaemonFC<Techrights-sec> what, does it come with a complementary NAMBLA membership?Apr 14 11:59
*spazzz is now known as spazzApr 14 11:59
DaemonFCNorth American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?Apr 14 11:59
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Apr 14 11:59
schestowitz-TRThis is not a BB problem but a WWW problemApr 14 11:59
schestowitz-TRfar too many sites are becoming like thisApr 14 11:59
schestowitz-TRmoments ago I also mentioned FOSSLifeApr 14 11:59
DaemonFC"Buicks offer a more upscale experience than your average Toyota, Mazda, or Nissan car but not as upscale as BMWs, Jaguars, Audis, Mercedes-Benzes, etc."Apr 14 12:01
DaemonFCEuropean luxury cars give you a more luxurious interior to sit on while the engine boils itself to death on the side of the road.Apr 14 12:02
DaemonFC"According to RepairPal, the average annual maintenance and repair cost for a Buick is $608, which is noticeably lower than the $652 across all models and much lower than the costs for a BMW ($968), Mercedes-Benz ($908), and many other makes of luxury cars."Apr 14 12:04
DaemonFCThat's just an average though. When the BMW's cooling system fails, people tend to get rid of the car seeing as how the engine's ruined too the first time it overheats because of plastic and aluminum crap inside.Apr 14 12:04
DaemonFCSo the repair bills stop with the car is 7 or 8 because it's just scrap metal at that point.Apr 14 12:04
Techrights-secThey are one example of the symptom.Apr 14 12:05
Techrights-secI guess buyouts worked for the colleges and universities and now they are turning to the reamining areas where people can self-teaApr 14 12:05
Techrights-seclearn in spite of everything else.Apr 14 12:05
DaemonFC"A reason for this is because Buick is part of General Motors and shares parts with the company’s other brands, particularly Chevrolet, which makes the parts needed to make repairs affordable and easily attainable."Apr 14 12:06
DaemonFCYes, which increases the size of the aftermarket and makes sure you can still get parts for your Buick!Apr 14 12:06
DaemonFCIn many cases, between 1999 and 2009, the parts are exactly the same between various GM models, including Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, and Pontiac (defunct).Apr 14 12:07
DaemonFCEven though Pontiac has been gone for years now, you can get parts.Apr 14 12:07
DaemonFCThey're generic.Apr 14 12:07
DaemonFCIf you get some weird car with a limited production run that breaks down all the time, good luck.Apr 14 12:08
DaemonFCFIAT is now selling less than 50,000 cars per year into the American market, in total, under the FIAT brand. So they're considering packing up and leaving.Apr 14 12:08
DaemonFCAmericans joke about FIAT meaning "Fix It Again, Tony!" because they're so poorly made.Apr 14 12:09
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, You have to wonder how some of these companies are even in business.Apr 14 12:09
DaemonFCWho would buy something that is so unreliable and is well known for changing their parts around so much you can never get a good deal on them.Apr 14 12:10
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leahschestowitz-TR: i'm such a twat, i didn't know it was bank holiday friday+monday this monthApr 14 12:11
leaheaster weekendApr 14 12:11
leahi hate bank holidays. especially double bank holidaysApr 14 12:11
DaemonFCYeah, and IKEA isn't even doing their Easter dinner anymore.Apr 14 12:11
DaemonFC:(Apr 14 12:12
leahpayments still come in, but i have to explain to my customers why their laptop will take 2 additional business days to shipApr 14 12:12
leahbecause most of my customers are foreigners, who don't have bank holidaysApr 14 12:12
leahor they do, but on different datesApr 14 12:12
DaemonFC<leah> because most of my customers are foreigners, who don't have bank holidaysApr 14 12:12
DaemonFCThey don't have Christians in those countries?Apr 14 12:12
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leahthey do, but they won't take time off from workApr 14 12:13
leahdue to less workers rightsApr 14 12:13
leahmehApr 14 12:14
leahthat's 4 days for me to goof around thenApr 14 12:14
leahyayApr 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRleah: I only remembered a week agoApr 14 12:16
leahwe should like, be a completely robotic society. just have everything running 24/7, 7 days a week. and 1/7th of workforce has monday and tuesday off. next 1/7th have tuesday and wednesday. etcApr 14 12:16
leahthat way, twats like me who work every day and don't consider it work, but consider it fun (coreboot is fun) don't get pissed off waiting for stuff to open after being closed for daysApr 14 12:16
leahbut there's a twist. have it all running non-stop but have everyone doing no more than 4 hour shifts. at double the current wagesApr 14 12:17
DaemonFC 14 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some Mac App Store apps are just 'bait' for in-app-purchases - 9to5MacApr 14 12:17
leahbasically make the UK like a borg shipApr 14 12:17
leah1/3 of it operating, the rest of it sleeping, but it's always operatingApr 14 12:18
DaemonFCAnd even the Apple fan sites admit that most of the App Store is just bait for dumbshit and dumbshits.Apr 14 12:18
leahschestowitz-TR: have you ever considered how absurd it is that the country is completely dead, for 12 hours every day?Apr 14 12:18
leahempty streetsApr 14 12:18
schestowitz-TRnoApr 14 12:19
schestowitz-TRstreets can be redundantApr 14 12:19
schestowitz-TRmany drive for no reasonsApr 14 12:19
schestowitz-TRbetter use of the space is possibleApr 14 12:19
leahyeah like the netherlandsApr 14 12:19
leahtheir public transport and cycling infrastructure is amazingApr 14 12:19
leahschestowitz-TR: but in the netherlands, they have bicycle traffic jamsApr 14 12:19
leahever seen those?Apr 14 12:19
leahyou can sometimes actually be stuck in bicycle trafficApr 14 12:20
schestowitz-TRlolApr 14 12:20
DaemonFCI commented: "Even the Apple fan sites admit that most of the Apps are trash designed to bait people in to waste money, like a roach motel.Apr 14 12:20
DaemonFCThere's no replacement for local computing and Free and Open Source Software."Apr 14 12:20
leahi'm seriousApr 14 12:20
schestowitz-TRleah: cycling is no fun near roadsApr 14 12:20
leahbunch of dutch people swearing on their bikes, waiting to get aheadApr 14 12:20
leahit's hilariousApr 14 12:20
schestowitz-TReven on cycling lanesApr 14 12:20
schestowitz-TRwe only cycle on the canal sideApr 14 12:20
leahi bike it on the roads where i amApr 14 12:21
leahnext to trafficApr 14 12:21
leahbut yeah, better infrastructure is neededApr 14 12:21
leahcars are stupidApr 14 12:21
leahtrains and buses are betterApr 14 12:21
leahplus bicyclesApr 14 12:21
leahmore trains and buses would be my preferenceApr 14 12:21
leahwould help disabled people too, who may not be able to drive very easily, and rely on public transportApr 14 12:21
leahplus, electric trains have been a thing for a while nowApr 14 12:23
DaemonFC"Cindy CoffeltApr 14 12:23
DaemonFCI used to shop weekly at Wal-Mart but over the last five years I've come to absolutely hate shopping there. I now only go about once a month for a couple of items that I have trouble finding elsewhere."Apr 14 12:23
leahcan run it all on solar and wind powerApr 14 12:23
leahand btwApr 14 12:23
DaemonFCI replied, "At least they're not like Amazon, with Bezos launching himelf into "technically space" while his workers never last more than a month or two and have to pee in bottles, and third party sellers with counterfeit junk."Apr 14 12:23
leahtwo countries on earth are known to be very windy:Apr 14 12:23
leah* pakistanApr 14 12:23
leah* UKApr 14 12:23
leahboth of these countries have some of the best potential for wind energyApr 14 12:23
leahwind farmsApr 14 12:23
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schestowitz-TR[12:23] <leah> both of these countries have some of the best potential for wind energyApr 14 12:26
schestowitz-TRwe'd need to abandon cars except food transport etc.Apr 14 12:27
schestowitz-TRwing generates energy, but some things use it up too fastApr 14 12:27
schestowitz-TR*windApr 14 12:27
schestowitz-TRand don't get me started ib "Electric" planesApr 14 12:28
schestowitz-TRor space missionsApr 14 12:28
schestowitz-TRspaceX... powered by batteries :-)Apr 14 12:28
schestowitz-TRthings people concerned for the planet can do:Apr 14 12:29
schestowitz-TR1) very rarely flyApr 14 12:29
schestowitz-TR2) never buy a carApr 14 12:29
schestowitz-TR3) don't have kidsApr 14 12:29
schestowitz-TR4) recycle, reuse, repurpose etc.Apr 14 12:30
schestowitz-TRuse clothing instead of heating to the extent feasible (some age groups and parts of the world cannot)Apr 14 12:30
schestowitz-TRthings that won't save us:Apr 14 12:30
schestowitz-TR1) tech utopiaApr 14 12:30
schestowitz-TR2) buying "newer" and "greener" things (more manufacturing)Apr 14 12:31
schestowitz-TR(1) and (2)  are pseudo-solutions touted by capitalistsApr 14 12:31
schestowitz-TRturning the climate and overpopulation disaster into yet more profits (or "capitalist activity")Apr 14 12:32
schestowitz-TRdouble glazing or better insulation can knock off billions of energy bills, over decadesApr 14 12:32
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC took is (IMO) too farApr 14 12:33
schestowitz-TRhe started sleeping in a bag, zipped upApr 14 12:33
schestowitz-TRthere are way to reuse energyApr 14 12:33
schestowitz-TRlike putting computers in the same room, then shutting the doorsApr 14 12:34
schestowitz-TRa lot of excess energy becomes heat, also body heatApr 14 12:34
schestowitz-TRseveral people in the same room means energy sharingApr 14 12:34
schestowitz-TRit all sounds radicalApr 14 12:34
schestowitz-TRand media won't advocate such things, it's too busy "selling"Apr 14 12:34
schestowitz-TRnot teachingApr 14 12:34
schestowitz-TRwe've not turned on the heating for yearsApr 14 12:35
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schestowitz-TRspeaking of energy useApr 14 12:36
schestowitz-TRthe web also contributes a lot to pollutioApr 14 12:36
schestowitz-TRon the client side and server sideApr 14 12:36
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schestowitz-TRthey are, at best, greenwashing their actApr 14 12:36
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leahschestowitz-TR: how do you avoid your pipes freezing?Apr 14 12:37
leahif you don't turn on the heat i meanApr 14 12:37
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techrights-news"[I almost used the word β€œon-boarding” in the title, but then I realized that's marketspeak and I don't want to use marketspeak as I find the synergism incondusive to the synchronistic harmonizing of perpendicular incentives." gemini:// 14 12:38
leahschestowitz-TR: i saw a post from someone once, about sustainable server hostingApr 14 12:38
leahbasically the dude was running a raspberry pi off of a solar panelApr 14 12:39
leahtiny panelApr 14 12:39
schestowitz-TRleah: valveApr 14 12:39
schestowitz-TRfor outdoor pipesApr 14 12:39
leahokApr 14 12:39
schestowitz-TRotherwise it bursts a lotApr 14 12:39
leahaccording to the gas man who came recently to check my boiler, the government is ordering the construction of hydrogen infrastructureApr 14 12:40
schestowitz-TRkeeping water in the pipes warm is not good use of energyApr 14 12:40
leahwe will have hydrogen in our homes in likeApr 14 12:40
leah10 years?Apr 14 12:40
leahhydrogen boilersApr 14 12:40
leah> hydrogenApr 14 12:40
schestowitz-TRbamApr 14 12:40
leahso their thinking is:Apr 14 12:40
leahrebuild the pipes really thick, and make damn sure they're well-weldedApr 14 12:40
leahand make sure the boilers are reliable... yeah, right lolApr 14 12:41
schestowitz-TRbroken windows theoryApr 14 12:41
leahi'll make sure to have thermal solar panels long before i let someone put hydrogen in my houseApr 14 12:41
schestowitz-TRwe used from electric showers to gaApr 14 12:41
schestowitz-TRgasApr 14 12:41
leahthat shit is even less safe than regular gasApr 14 12:41
schestowitz-TRand now the price of gas goes through the roofApr 14 12:41
leahyeha i was gonna ask, how do you shower if you havent turned the heating on in yearsApr 14 12:42
leahwas gonna ask if you go coldApr 14 12:42
leahcold showers are ok once you get used to themApr 14 12:42
schestowitz-TRnot in winterApr 14 12:42
schestowitz-TRbut water heating is another matterApr 14 12:42
schestowitz-TReven washing machines need that sometimesApr 14 12:42
schestowitz-TRnot alwayApr 14 12:42
schestowitz-TRsome can heat that up or do cold washesApr 14 12:43
leahi've never understood though why you need gas to heat a homeApr 14 12:43
leahwhy can't boilers just be electric?Apr 14 12:43
schestowitz-TRbut with 20 litres you can get a long showerApr 14 12:43
leahheating element and just heat waterApr 14 12:43
schestowitz-TRthe temperature differential in summer is smallApr 14 12:43
schestowitz-TRlike 26->35Apr 14 12:43
leahlike, why do you need gasApr 14 12:43
leahelectric heaters are more efficientApr 14 12:44
schestowitz-TRgas used to be cheaperApr 14 12:44
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schestowitz-TRbut there's another facetApr 14 12:44
schestowitz-TRlike electric heater breaking a lotApr 14 12:44
schestowitz-TRand being hard to repairApr 14 12:45
schestowitz-TRso you can connect one single boiler to the wholeApr 14 12:45
schestowitz-TRand then maintain just that one thingApr 14 12:45
leahschestowitz-TR: anywayApr 14 12:51
leahlocal jobsApr 14 12:51
leahlocal jobs means people can walkApr 14 12:51
leahthen you build cycling lanesApr 14 12:51
leahi agree with you: roads should be mostly for delivery of goodsApr 14 12:51
schestowitz-TRtell that to "clown computing" boostersApr 14 12:51
schestowitz-TRthey don't have any notion of localApr 14 12:52
leah?Apr 14 12:52
leahwell a job on the internet neither is nor isn't localApr 14 12:52
leahunless i suppose if you host the servers in your own labApr 14 12:52
schestowitz-TRa lot of jobs can be done from home or walking distanceApr 14 12:52
schestowitz-TRself-hosting is feasibleApr 14 12:52
schestowitz-TRbut the www is far too bloatedApr 14 12:52
leahyeah well, i've identified that these things are the cause of global warming:Apr 14 12:52
schestowitz-TRmaybe by designApr 14 12:52
leah* meat/dairy indistry. we need to eat like, 90% less of thatApr 14 12:53
schestowitz-TRand the intention of floating everything to datacentresApr 14 12:53
leah* commuting to work by carApr 14 12:53
leah* soybean farmingApr 14 12:53
leah(yes, vegans, looking at you. you're just as bad as meat eaters)Apr 14 12:53
schestowitz-TRsoy needs ruining forestsApr 14 12:53
schestowitz-TRit causes its own problemsApr 14 12:53
leahplus likeApr 14 12:53
leaha few other thingsApr 14 12:53
leahpets are bad too. we breed animals just to have as petsApr 14 12:54
schestowitz-TRnoApr 14 12:54
leaha pet labradour is pretty bad for the planetApr 14 12:54
schestowitz-TRcompanionship is importantApr 14 12:54
schestowitz-TRpets don't use up muhc energyApr 14 12:54
leahbut i wouldn't want to take people's petsApr 14 12:54
leahand they're not the biggest threatApr 14 12:54
leahso...Apr 14 12:54
schestowitz-TRpets rarely flyApr 14 12:54
leahless meat, less milk, less cheese, less carsApr 14 12:55
schestowitz-TRyou forgot less peopleApr 14 12:55
leahand no soybeansApr 14 12:55
schestowitz-TRnobody likes to say thatApr 14 12:55
leahschestowitz-TR: i was going to say itApr 14 12:55
schestowitz-TRhahaApr 14 12:55
leahbut it's pointless to say itApr 14 12:55
leahknow why?Apr 14 12:55
schestowitz-TRbecause it's not politically-correctApr 14 12:55
leahnobody will ever listen to it. human nature is to procreate endlesslyApr 14 12:55
schestowitz-TRpeople insinuate you want to kill peopleApr 14 12:56
leahschestowitz-TR: no, i don't mind saying it, and i agreeApr 14 12:56
leahschestowitz-TR: that's the only way to do it. that's why i didn't say itApr 14 12:56
leahbecause i see no way to do it, without endorsing genocideApr 14 12:56
schestowitz-TRas you are aware I'm a neo (news) philesApr 14 12:56
leahwhat's whatApr 14 12:56
schestowitz-TRand this week I saw many items about famine and startvationApr 14 12:56
schestowitz-TRalso water crisusApr 14 12:57
schestowitz-TRneophile = lover of news Apr 14 12:57
leahi actually think we can have like double or triple the number of human beingsApr 14 12:57
leahit's totally fineApr 14 12:57
leahand i believe it will happen in my lifetimeApr 14 12:57
leahpopulation 30 billionApr 14 12:57
schestowitz-TRthere is already a capacity issueApr 14 12:57
schestowitz-TRand we're ruining forestsApr 14 12:58
leahruining forests to eat meat and dairyApr 14 12:58
schestowitz-TRmany animals become extinctApr 14 12:58
leahalso soybeansApr 14 12:58
leahmeat, dairy and soybeans are in large part why we cut down treesApr 14 12:58
leahto make farm landApr 14 12:58
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leahi don't know how we would do paper sustainablyApr 14 12:59
leahhow to make paper, that isApr 14 12:59
leahand shipping containers are often made from trees tooApr 14 12:59
leahcardboard i meanApr 14 12:59
schestowitz-TRit's an x*y*z problemApr 14 13:00
schestowitz-TRreduce xApr 14 13:00
schestowitz-TRor yApr 14 13:00
schestowitz-TRor zApr 14 13:00
schestowitz-TReven if you reduce consumption, waste etc. you won't accomplish enough if you double the size of the population every 50-100 yearsApr 14 13:01
leahi'd say covid might be the answer you're looking for, to reduce world populationApr 14 13:02
leahbut so far, it has only gotten rid of about 0.5% of humanityApr 14 13:02
schestowitz-TRlike MinceR might say, it's not strong enoughApr 14 13:02
schestowitz-TRand it mostly kills very elderly peopleApr 14 13:02
schestowitz-TRit handicaps othersApr 14 13:02
schestowitz-TRputting burden on the health systemsApr 14 13:02
schestowitz-TR*healthcareApr 14 13:03
schestowitz-TRleah: and about 10% of businesses, maybe a lot moreApr 14 13:03
leah?Apr 14 13:03
schestowitz-TRso a lot more people are financially helpless nowApr 14 13:04
leahoh, you mean 10% of businesses shut downApr 14 13:04
leahyeah that'll do it thenApr 14 13:04
leahwipe out the rest with povertyApr 14 13:04
leahbtwApr 14 13:04
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leahi'm just being scientific hereApr 14 13:04
leahtaking your point to the logical extremeApr 14 13:04
leah(methods to reduce world population)Apr 14 13:04
schestowitz-TRi think it's like drake equationApr 14 13:04
schestowitz-TRbut for planet earthApr 14 13:04
leahhow so?Apr 14 13:04
schestowitz-TRand not for probability, rather than overall utilityApr 14 13:05
schestowitz-TRrms tried to 'lecture' brazilians on overpopulation last yearApr 14 13:05
schestowitz-TRit did not go wellApr 14 13:05
schestowitz-TRnot lecture per seApr 14 13:05
schestowitz-TRbut catholics are in denial about it, just like muslimsApr 14 13:05
leahoh my godApr 14 13:05
leahno pun intended btw, because i wrote it before seeing you add that last lineApr 14 13:06
schestowitz-TRtheir religion tells them to play the "numbers game"... to 'win'Apr 14 13:06
leahhave you ever heard a brazillian person be angry, swearing and shouting in portugueseApr 14 13:06
schestowitz-TRi know who you meanApr 14 13:06
leahthere's the stereotype of them being happy, peaceful people, but then you hear cursing in portugueseApr 14 13:06
schestowitz-TRhe shouted in englishApr 14 13:06
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schestowitz-TRbeing happy is getting harderApr 14 13:07
leahschestowitz-TR: was that the same lecture where he had a nervous breakdown?Apr 14 13:07
schestowitz-TRunless you become cynical like george carlinApr 14 13:07
leahhe tried to speak at a conference in brazil, and spoke in spanishApr 14 13:07
leahbut nobody understood him, so he got angryApr 14 13:07
schestowitz-TRthe organisers' faultApr 14 13:08
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leahwhy would you do that thoughApr 14 13:08
schestowitz-TRbut rms could handle it betterApr 14 13:08
leahspeak spanish at a conference in a portuguese-speaking countryApr 14 13:08
leahanyway, i might celebrate easter this yearApr 14 13:09
leahwith chocolate eggs i meanApr 14 13:09
schestowitz-TR"break an egg"Apr 14 13:09
leahi was craving chocolate last nightApr 14 13:09
schestowitz-TRI am going to record something in a moApr 14 13:09
leahok have funApr 14 13:09
leahi'm gonna get back to my thingsApr 14 13:09
leahi'm actually pretty on top of work at the moment. april is usually a slow monthApr 14 13:10
leahi'm mostly just getting as ahead as possibleApr 14 13:10
leahbecause i plan to work on a libreboot release soon. ready for release later this month hopefullyApr 14 13:10
schestowitz-TRyeah, slow news tooApr 14 13:11
leahlibreboot and osboot. simultaneous releasesApr 14 13:11
schestowitz-TRI shall take advantage of thatApr 14 13:11
leahoh?Apr 14 13:11
schestowitz-TRwhat you heard..Apr 14 13:11
schestowitz-TRvery very slow newsApr 14 13:11
schestowitz-TRjournalism is nearly deadApr 14 13:11
schestowitz-TRbbiabApr 14 13:12
leahi've also noticed slow news latelyApr 14 13:14
leahanywayApr 14 13:15
leahschestowitz-TR: something you might be interested in:Apr 14 13:17
leahsee: #BigPowerOff on twitterApr 14 13:17
leahnext one is on saturday at 7pm. to take part, you just turn off your electricity for 10 minutes at that time, and then turn it back onApr 14 13:17
leahthe idea being: if enough people do it, it'll cause a nationwide surgeApr 14 13:18
leahwhich could cause real damage to infrastructureApr 14 13:18
leahand the idea therefore is: energy companies and the government will be forced to lower prices, or get royally fuckedApr 14 13:18
leahit's being organized by a group called:Apr 14 13:19
leahDisabled People Against Cuts (DPAC)Apr 14 13:19
leahthe organisers are based in sheffieldApr 14 13:19
leahyou could cover that. i think it's a great ideaApr 14 13:19
leahand i've decided that i will take partApr 14 13:19
leahi'm turning off my electricity this saturday, at 7pm. for 10 minutesApr 14 13:19
leahthat means all my websites will be offline for 10 minutesApr 14 13:19
schestowitz-TRok, recording stoppedApr 14 13:21
leahin my opinion, they should tell people to do it every dayApr 14 13:21
leah3 times dailyApr 14 13:21
schestowitz-TRi had to stop early due to technial f*upApr 14 13:21
leahdaily blackoutsApr 14 13:21
leahby my estimation, 10% of households need to do this, for the action to be effectiveApr 14 13:21
leahschestowitz-TR: spain did it, and it workedApr 14 13:23
schestowitz-TRlolApr 14 13:23
schestowitz-TRTwitterApr 14 13:23
leahenergy prices went downApr 14 13:23
schestowitz-TRTwitter is NOT for activismApr 14 13:23
schestowitz-TRyou are NOT in controlApr 14 13:23
schestowitz-TRTwitter controls youApr 14 13:23
leahtell that to spainApr 14 13:24
schestowitz-TRMUSK controls YOUApr 14 13:24
leahthey have cheaper energy bills nowApr 14 13:24
schestowitz-TR"real damage to infrastructure"Apr 14 13:24
schestowitz-TRdoesn't sound like LudditesApr 14 13:25
schestowitz-TRsounds like dumbFucks (Facebook(TM)) deluding themselves into thingsApr 14 13:25
schestowitz-TRyou need whisteblowers and stuffApr 14 13:25
schestowitz-TRlike at EPOApr 14 13:25
schestowitz-TRor WikileaksApr 14 13:25
schestowitz-TRvandalising one's own infra isn't conducive Apr 14 13:26
schestowitz-TRand it mostly helps Twitter's ownersApr 14 13:26
schestowitz-TRwho still control youApr 14 13:26
schestowitz-TRthey do tons of meddling everywhereApr 14 13:26
schestowitz-TReven elections and warsApr 14 13:26
schestowitz-TRorganising actions in social control media is like lecturing veganism inside a lion's denApr 14 13:27
schestowitz-TReventually the lair's owner will eat youApr 14 13:27
schestowitz-TRleah: if you don't mind me changing subjectsApr 14 13:28
schestowitz-TRI am typing up our strategy and priorities at the momentApr 14 13:28
schestowitz-TRwith focus on patentsApr 14 13:28
schestowitz-TRopen to insights from yoiuApr 14 13:28
leahi don't know much about patent issuesApr 14 13:28
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schestowitz-TRin libreboot surely you step on a fewApr 14 13:29
leahnda'sApr 14 13:30
leahit's nda's that bite meApr 14 13:30
leahwhen i want to know something and the information can only be obtained under ndaApr 14 13:31
schestowitz-TRI seeApr 14 13:36
schestowitz-TRakin to Trade Secrets?Apr 14 13:36
schestowitz-TRthose are not the same but relatedApr 14 13:36
schestowitz-TRare you even allowed to say who signs with who?Apr 14 13:37
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leahwell, i'm against nda's and don't want to legitimise the practiseApr 14 13:39
leahso i never sign themApr 14 13:39
leahpatents don't really come up as often in hardware because you're often not able to do anything with it anywayApr 14 13:40
leahbut nda's chip documentation is a huge problemApr 14 13:41
schestowitz-TRwith patents in the mix I guessApr 14 13:48
schestowitz-TRusually is it patents, secrecy, or bothApr 14 13:48
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schestowitz-TRbtw re spainApr 14 13:50
schestowitz-TRthose fools outsourced to USApr 14 13:50
schestowitz-TRand to US oligarachsaApr 14 13:50
schestowitz-TRand they don't damage only their own griudApr 14 13:50
schestowitz-TRbut also their own home appliancesaApr 14 13:50
schestowitz-TRand neighboursApr 14 13:50
schestowitz-TRelaborate sabotageApr 14 13:50
schestowitz-TRencouraged by US-owned and Saudi-owned social control media foolfestApr 14 13:51
schestowitz-TRamazingApr 14 13:51
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psydruidso Musk has made an offer to buy TwitterApr 14 14:03
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schestowitz-TRpsydruid: has he?Apr 14 14:04
schestowitz-TRurl?Apr 14 14:04
schestowitz-TRi hope it's trueApr 14 14:04
schestowitz-TRI REALLY hope it's trueApr 14 14:04
schestowitz-TRit'll die fasterApr 14 14:04
schestowitz-TRlike "truth social"Apr 14 14:04
schestowitz-TRor LeeNodeApr 14 14:04
schestowitz-TRpeople don't want to work for charlatans and fraudsApr 14 14:05
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schestowitz-TRthanksApr 14 14:05
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schestowitz-TR"Apr 14 14:05
schestowitz-TRName of Reporting Person:                              I.R.S. Identification Nos. of Above Person (entities only):Apr 14 14:05
schestowitz-TR  Apr 14 14:05
schestowitz-TRElon R. MuskApr 14 14:05
schestowitz-TR"Apr 14 14:05
schestowitz-TR"Explanatory Note: This statement on Schedule 13D amends the Schedule 13D of Elon Musk (the β€œReporting Person”) that was filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 5, 2022, as amended on April 11, 2022 (collectively, the β€œSchedule 13D”), with respect to the Common Stock of Twitter Inc. (the β€œIssuer’). This amendment to the Schedule 13D constitutes Amendment No. 2 to the Schedule 13D. Capitalized terms used but Apr 14 14:05
schestowitz-TRnot defined herein have the meanings given to such terms in the Schedule 13D. Except as set forth herein, the Schedule 13D is unmodified."Apr 14 14:05
schestowitz-TR"As a result, I am offering to buy 100% of Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, a 54% premium over the day before I began investing in Twitter and a 38% premium over the day before my investment was publicly announced. My offer is my best and final offer and if it is not accepted, I would need to reconsider my position as a shareholder."Apr 14 14:06
schestowitz-TRwowApr 14 14:06
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techrights-news"Infra is the kind of game that you'd think shouldn't exist, but I'm glad it does." gemini:// 14 15:41
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techrights-newsTackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 2 | Techrights βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 14 15:55
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bnchs_helloApr 14 16:08
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bnchs_'\0'Apr 14 16:13
schestowitz-TRit's me waving helloApr 14 16:14
schestowitz-TRkde neon isn't as great as I thoughtApr 14 16:14
schestowitz-TRit's acting like some kind of rolling releaseApr 14 16:14
schestowitz-TRwhich is maybe what it wasApr 14 16:14
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schestowitz-TRI will test it some more weeksApr 14 16:15
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schestowitz-TRbefore giving a more complete 'review'Apr 14 16:15
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MinceR   ( )Apr 14 16:15
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bnchs_yeah i knowApr 14 16:16
bnchs_i said NULL because in a char its '\0'Apr 14 16:16
psydruidI tried KDE Neon when it was first released but it broke itself twice in short succession, so I tried Fedora and then shortly after that DebianApr 14 16:19
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bnchsi like how anti-linux shills always point out that linux is "unusable"Apr 14 16:38
bnchsor "unstable"Apr 14 16:38
bnchsthey fake stories about how linux is unusableApr 14 16:39
bnchsand then refuse to offer any more informationApr 14 16:39
bnchslike system logsApr 14 16:39
bnchsalso strawmansApr 14 16:42
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DaemonFCThe Toyota Corolla at 2:55 has a bad serpentine belt.Apr 14 17:15
DaemonFCThe guy should get it replaced.Apr 14 17:16
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DaemonFCAny time that belt starts squaling, chirping, making any noise whatsoever, take it to a GOOD mechanic, have them inspect the entire drive shaft system for bad/misaligned pulleys and of course noise from any accessories it runs, to see if those need replaced, and even if nothing needs replaced, get yourself a new belt anyway.Apr 14 17:17
DaemonFCBecause chances are there's something wrong with the belt even if the drive system is fine otherwise, and you don't want a belt to snap and leave you stranded somewhere.Apr 14 17:17
DaemonFCThe Buick started chirping yesterday morning when it was wet out. It went away after I drove the car a few blocks. I was going to the shop anyway, had them inspect the drive shaft system and they didn't find anything wrong with those expensive accessories ar pulleys, so I said "Throw the 14 year old belt in the trash and we'll put a new belt on and see if it goes away.". This morning it was even muggier and more humid than yesterday. I started Apr 14 17:19
DaemonFCthe car with the new belt. No noise at all.Apr 14 17:19
DaemonFCIt was belt glazing on the old belt.Apr 14 17:19
DaemonFCTHe rubber had started to break down with heat and age (more age than anything, because they're never supposed to be on there more than 10 year even if you don't have 100,000 miles on the belt yet).Apr 14 17:20
DaemonFCAnd when it gets wet, that section of the belt starts getting pulled over some of the pulleys and chirping at you, and if you don't take care of it, your car can even start doing odd things before it goes ahead and snaps.Apr 14 17:21
DaemonFCBecause it's suppose to grip the drive shaft and accessories tightly and turn all of them, and when part of the belt is slipping, it's not running those accessories properly until a good section of the belt gets back over them and starts turning them again.Apr 14 17:22
DaemonFCThe S-Belt is actually a huge improvement on modern cars and the latest one to use several belts in there was Toyota, I think.Apr 14 17:23
DaemonFCThey're known for reliable cars, but there's like 5 belts in there, so when it's belt day, you have some expensive jobs to do.Apr 14 17:23
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, So I need to get new TPMS sensors in the Buick.Apr 14 17:25
DaemonFCIt was dinging at me when they sold it and it says "SERVICE TPMS SYSTEM" but it's not a huge deal, other than the annoyance and I can't just tell the computer "I don't want to spend any money on that. Shut up.".Apr 14 17:26
DaemonFCBut I think I still got a good deal on the car.Apr 14 17:26
DaemonFCCarvana is so ridiculous on pricing that even though the cars seem to be okay as a general rule, and they probably fix it up well enough that it's not dinging at you right away, there's still no guarantees that it's had all of its recommended servicing.Apr 14 17:27
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DaemonFCIf they want you to pay $11,000 for a car similar to the one I got for $7,950, you're going to be really hot under the collar if they drop something off that's got a few issues and you're right back into the shop getting those nailed down.Apr 14 17:32
DaemonFCRight off the bat, I needed a new remote control, a second key, a bunch of service work, a battery. I mean so that's another $1,700 worth of stuff, right? But Carvana drops off a mystery car that costa $11,000 and you might still need to do some of this stuff anyway.Apr 14 17:34
DaemonFCI'd much rather just buy a car with some quirks for $3,050 less, skip the extra $500 in taxes for having bought it from a dealer that my state would have charged me, and go through some things with a mechanic where it won't cost me half that difference and I get credit card points and coupons along the way.Apr 14 17:36
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> like "truth social"Apr 14 17:37
DaemonFCThat flopped big time.Apr 14 17:37
DaemonFCThe problem conservatives at having with their social media is that aside from the Cancel Mob coming after them and forcing them to use their own infrastructure, like software and hosting, there's too many conservative social media sites and it waters down the experience.Apr 14 17:38
DaemonFCIf Gab, TRUTH, and Parler were all like, one thing, and everyone went there, it would do pretty well by user count.Apr 14 17:38
DaemonFCBack to used cars, the used car market is nuts right now, and you can end up paying as much as I did, or more, for a total piece of crap.Apr 14 17:40
DaemonFCWhen I was shoppping around I noticed something.Apr 14 17:40
DaemonFC$6,000 tends to get you a total rustbucket now, especially at a dealership.Apr 14 17:40
DaemonFCThat's $6,000. When I was a young man you could buy a late model car in decent shape anywhere you wanted to and it was like $2,000 if that.Apr 14 17:41
DaemonFCAnd for $2,000 you expected no rust, low miles, nothing huge wrong with it.Apr 14 17:41
DaemonFCBecause when the other guy bought his new car, he got something totally decent for $20,000.Apr 14 17:41
DaemonFCSo if a nice new car is $20,000, you get to sell your used one for $2,000, but when the government starts fucking with the car market and a new car is $60,000-$70,000 out the door, a decent used one won't start at less than $7,000 or so.Apr 14 17:42
DaemonFCThe government crushed a lot of cars like mine in Cash 4 Clunkers in 2009. They ruined a bunch of really good late model American cars and people bought this battery shit from Asia and it's all broken down by now, and the American cars that survived the program can still run fine if they haven't been abused.Apr 14 17:43
DaemonFCAnd the program only brought up the average MPG for the US fleet by 1.2 MPG.Apr 14 17:44
DaemonFCAnd they destroyed millions of cars that had already been built and all the energy and GHG emissions that had been used to build them were now wasted so they could build another car.Apr 14 17:44
bnchsthey locked the #fsf channelApr 14 17:44
bnchsgod dang itApr 14 17:44
bnchsnow i need to be registeredApr 14 17:44
bnchsi'm pretty sure the trolls triggered them too muchApr 14 17:44
DaemonFCOn LIBERAL Chat?Apr 14 17:45
bnchsyesApr 14 17:45
bnchs4chan trolls ruin everythingApr 14 17:45
DaemonFCI'm going back to the shop on Wednesday.Apr 14 17:46
psyminWhich android ebook reader is the most free? :)Apr 14 17:46
DaemonFCThey've got some engine and transmission rebuilds ahead of me. That's fine. A TPMS light is minor stuff.Apr 14 17:47
bnchspsymin: librera proApr 14 17:48
psyminbnchs, this? 14 17:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Librera Reader | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App RepositoryApr 14 17:50
bnchsyeahApr 14 17:50
schestowitz-TRI've installed obs studioApr 14 17:54
psyminbnchs, "The best way to fully appreciate Librera Reader, however, is to use our restriction-free Librera PRO version from Google Play"Apr 14 17:54
schestowitz-TRwish I did that in 2020 alreadyApr 14 17:54
bnchspsymin: fdroid's version is librera proApr 14 17:54
bnchsprobably compiled off their source codeApr 14 17:55
psyminodd, that quote is from the fdroid pageApr 14 17:55
DaemonFCI was out in the Buick this morning and that transmission is shifting like a dream.Apr 14 17:55
bnchsand besides already has no restrictionsApr 14 17:55
DaemonFCCan't even feel it shifting.Apr 14 17:55
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techrights-newsOBS Studio on KDE neon | Techrights βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 14 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OBS Studio on KDE neon | TechrightsApr 14 18:17
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesApr 14 18:22
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bnchs__libera chat netsplitedApr 14 18:35
bnchs__most of the channels are now 0-20 usersApr 14 18:35
psydroid2isn't #fsf more like an echo chamber of people who pat themselves on the back a bit too much while doing absolutely nothing fundamental to further free software?Apr 14 18:36
bnchs__well they have forced registerationApr 14 18:37
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bnchs__because of the trolls from yesterday's RMS talkApr 14 18:37
psydroid2I mean in generalApr 14 18:38
MinceRwell, i could say things in #fsf (and rarely i do) but they get ignored anywayApr 14 18:38
psydroid2I've never seen anything there that makes me go "that's insightful"Apr 14 18:38
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techrights-newsAfter several days of β€˜firefighting’ against one technical disaster or another we're back to normal; this coming weekend we intend to tackle a lot of misleading β€˜journalism’ and outright β€˜fake news’ (issued to spread lies, by intention) 14 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 1 | TechrightsApr 14 18:43
techrights-newsEPO management found the courage β€” or the audacity rather β€” to pretend to be a benevolent force for peace and justice when in reality it’s a malignant cancer full of corruption and prevalent, unrelenting law-breaking 14 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Kangaroos in Ukraine | TechrightsApr 14 18:43
techrights-newsThe EPO has spurned science and has chosen politics as a smokescreen instead, mostly as a cover for the operations being designed to promote the interests of multinational monopolists and their patent litigation representatives 14 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 2 | TechrightsApr 14 18:43
techrights-newsWe’re going to try more advanced video recording software that does more things at once and does not result in a dire need for editing (as that would be extremely time-consuming) 14 18:44
techrights-newsYes, the Steam Deck will eventually get Ray Tracing, once the AMD GPU driver matures | GamingOnLinux βš“ δ·‰ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | GamesApr 14 18:52
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techrights-news"Soldat 2 entered Early Access in September 2020 but it seems it didn't quite hit the marks players wanted, and failed to find much of an audience. Transhuman Design never gave up on it, and as it turned out they were hard at work to overhaul everything. This huge revamp is out now!" 14 18:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Soldat 2 gets completely overhauled in a new update out now | GamingOnLinuxApr 14 18:52
techrights-newsPlay Worms 2 on Linux with the Worms 2 Plus patch | GamingOnLinux βš“ δ·‰ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | GamesApr 14 18:53
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techrights-news"SUSE has a skunkworks distro in development, the transition Debian is struggling with, and some long-awaited improvements to Raspberry Pi OS." 14 19:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Action News 236 | Jupiter BroadcastingApr 14 19:09
techrights-newsWhy I don't use Squarespace or WordPress "There are better options, but let's review where these common solutions fall short and what I do to fix them."Apr 14 19:11
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techrights-news"In this video, I am going to show an overview of Kubuntu 22.04 LTS and some of the applications pre-installed." 14 19:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Kubuntu 22.04 LTS overview | making your PC friendly - InvidiousApr 14 19:11
techrights-newsProprietary software (so media won't mention this): "CVSS v3 9.6" (almost 10/10 in severity) 14 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Red Lion DA50N | CISAApr 14 19:12
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO 14 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Industrial Control System Malware Discovered - Schneier on SecurityApr 14 19:14
techrights-newsLinks 2.26 Minimal Web Browser Brings DNS Over HTTPS and WebP Support β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 2.26 Minimal Web Browser Brings DNS Over HTTPS and WebP Support | Tux MachinesApr 14 19:18
SomeH4x0risn't DNS Over HTTPS a DNS client feature, not web browser?Apr 14 19:19
techrights-news12 Best Vim Plugins To Install In Your Terminal (2022) β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 12 Best Vim Plugins To Install In Your Terminal (2022) | Tux MachinesApr 14 19:21
techrights-newsProject Zero: CVE-2021-1782, an iOS in-the-wild vulnerability in vouchers βš“ δ·‰ Source: gulag project zeroApr 14 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Project Zero: CVE-2021-1782, an iOS in-the-wild vulnerability in vouchersApr 14 19:22
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: the borwsers are spywareApr 14 19:22
schestowitz-TRI would not trust themApr 14 19:22
techrights-newsBest 12 Xfce Themes Collection For Linux Distros To Try in 2022 β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Best 12 Xfce Themes Collection For Linux Distros To Try in 2022 | Tux MachinesApr 14 19:24
SomeH4x0rwdym "to try in YEAR"?Apr 14 19:25
SomeH4x0rdoes it matter what year it is to choose themes?Apr 14 19:25
schestowitz-TRupdates listApr 14 19:25
schestowitz-TRmaybe because some people search by yearApr 14 19:26
schestowitz-TRthey don't want to get a page about best distros 12 years agoApr 14 19:26
SomeH4x0rbest as in what? Taken over by corporations the most?Apr 14 19:26
SomeH4x0rnonsensical updates wasting resourcesApr 14 19:27
techrights-newsWait till they find out GNU/Linux distros are technically miles ahead of all versions of Windows Vista, including "11" 14 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | More Users Sticking with Windows XP than Upgrading to Windows 11 - Make Tech EasierApr 14 19:28
SomeH4x0rwe had less powerful PCs years ago and yet all stuff was functionalApr 14 19:28
bnchs__more userssticking with windows XPApr 14 19:28
bnchs__now tell me whats the differenceApr 14 19:28
SomeH4x0rhigher level of resource abuseApr 14 19:28
bnchs__1. an abandoned, shit version of a OSApr 14 19:28
bnchs__2. more spyware version in a OSApr 14 19:28
techrights-newsIt is widely accepted by now that Vista 11 is a failureApr 14 19:29
SomeH4x0rwhy is it "shit"?Apr 14 19:29
bnchs__all versions of windows is shitApr 14 19:29
bnchs__but what i was saying, is that it doesn't matter if you "stick" with windows XPApr 14 19:30
bnchs__microsoft can and will backport their spywareApr 14 19:30
SomeH4x0rafaik it has just a few updatesApr 14 19:30
SomeH4x0rthough it was de facto supported until 2019, so idkApr 14 19:31
bnchs__maybe i got a good plan for microsoftApr 14 19:31
bnchs__1) wait until some big security vulnerability comes outApr 14 19:31
bnchs__2) all windows users are affectedApr 14 19:31
techrights-newsMesa VERSION: bump to 22.2-devel for next cycle 14 19:31
bnchs__3) release update for currently "supported" windows versionsApr 14 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from 14 19:31
bnchs__4) release update for the "unsupported" versions aswellApr 14 19:31
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bnchs__5) the update has spyware backdoorsApr 14 19:32
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 14 19:38
techrights-newsGames: Steam Deck, Screeps: Arena, and More β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Games: Steam Deck, Screeps: Arena, and More | Tux MachinesApr 14 19:38
techrights-newsExperiments in digital oppression, disguised as companies (often subsidised at taxpayers' expense to believe the taxpayers) 14 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Hillicon Valley β€” Groups push tech to step up on crises | The HillApr 14 19:39
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techrights-newsMicrosoft is repeatedly being bailed out, both by Trump and Biden 14 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsApr 14 19:40
techrights-newsFacebook’s Ukraine-Russia Moderation Double Standard βš“ δ·‰ Source: theintercept | omidyar pacApr 14 19:41
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techrights-newsApril 14, 2022: Cyberattacks on Ukraine continue Ukrainian public now paying the FULL price for Windows (Microsoft)Apr 14 19:41
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techrights-news"At first glance, the title of this article may sound like an oxymoron. However, what it highlights is the introduction of a rather useful feature that will enable a far more robust and elegant handling of the /dev/shm implementation inside the snap sandbox." 14 19:44
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techrights-newsCanonical told the community of Ubuntu, "go to Hell." Now it's with Dell... and Microsoft 14 19:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canonical at Dell Technologies World 2022 | UbuntuApr 14 19:45
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techrights-newsOstentatio Genitalium in Renaissance Art – The Public Domain Review βš“ "stentatio genitalium (the display of the genitals) refers to disparate traditions in Renaissance visual culture of attributing formal, thematic, and theological significance to the penis of Jesus."Apr 14 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | *Ostentatio Genitalium* in Renaissance Art – The Public Domain ReviewApr 14 19:48
techrights-newsMy ninth year working at Mozilla βš“ δ·‰ Source: alxgbsnApr 14 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | My ninth year working at Mozilla – Alex GibsonApr 14 19:49
techrights-news"We’re pleased to announce that we have partnered with the Center for Humane Technology, a nonprofit organization that radically reimagines the digital infrastructure." WTH, Mozilla?Apr 14 19:50
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techrights-newsWhile Mozilla pretends to be an ethical company it spies on Firefox users, outsources the work to proprietary Microsoft jail 14 19:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This Week in Glean: What Flips Your Bit? – Data@MozillaApr 14 19:52
techrights-newsKDE neon 20220414 is out. I installed it today. 14 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ KDE neonApr 14 19:52
techrights-newsProprietary software: "Under certain circumstances the session token is not cleared upon log out." 14 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Johnson Controls Metasys | CISAApr 14 19:55
techrights-newsVMware proprietary shit will kill your business see 14 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISAApr 14 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | VMware - TechrightsApr 14 19:57
techrights-newsMozilla Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mozilla Leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 14 19:57
techrights-news"This year I've decided to bite the bullet and properly try out hledger for personal accounting. It seems I need to commit to it properly if I'm to figure out whether it will work for me or not." 14 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | jmtd β†’ log β†’ hledgerApr 14 19:59
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 14 19:59
techrights-newsTop 10 Best GTK Themes For Ubuntu Linux (2022 Collection) β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ 14 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Top 10 Best GTK Themes For Ubuntu Linux (2022 Collection) | Tux MachinesApr 14 20:03
techrights-news15 Practical Examples of Rsync Command in Linux βš“ δ·‰ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | LinuxApr 14 20:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 15 Practical Examples of Rsync Command in LinuxApr 14 20:04
techrights-newsReputation laundering of Zemlin et al, unrelated to Linux 14 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Today's Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux MachinesApr 14 20:06
techrights-newsBitstream Vera Must Die 14 20:10
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leahschestowitz: today's item is: potato and leek soupApr 14 21:23
mateypsydroid2  β”‚ I've never seen anything there that makes me go "that's insightful"Apr 14 21:23
SomeH4x0rhiApr 14 21:23
leahalways a different, random item every dayApr 14 21:23
mateymmmmmm potatoesApr 14 21:23
mateyhi someh4x0rApr 14 21:23
leahΒ£0.10 for "potato and leak soup kit", serves 4. potatoes and leaks, pre-chopped. expires tonight. cook it and it lasts an extra dayApr 14 21:24
leahcan pad it with rice and lentils to make it last longerApr 14 21:24
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mateypsydroid2 psydroid etc: its worse than that. not only is it a circlejerk responsible for very littleApr 14 21:24
leahschestowitz: seriously, why does anyone pay for anything?Apr 14 21:25
mateyyou wont find anyone in there saying much of interest, because a happy little mob would gently nudge them towards the doorApr 14 21:25
mateythen, when everyone with an actual idea has left, they say, as alwaysApr 14 21:25
mateyhow about no? how about, GO JOIN YOURSELF AND STICK IT UP YOUR BUM!Apr 14 21:25
matey(just saying)Apr 14 21:25
mateyto be fair, rms said rougly the opposite yesterday. but the damage has already been done.Apr 14 21:26
mateyhe said give us ideas so we can put them on the help pageApr 14 21:26
mateyits a bit late for that, the culture has ossified (osi-fied?)Apr 14 21:26
psydroid2it seems to be a social circle, not a technical circle anymoreApr 14 21:26
mateyits a mildly (unintentionally) elitist social circleApr 14 21:27
mateyand theres nothing wrong with being technical. you and leah are BOTH more technical than i amApr 14 21:27
mateybut neither are elitist.Apr 14 21:27
mateyits not just about you, you, you. and the people in #fsf dont mean it to be. but they just dont get it.Apr 14 21:28
mateythey dont mean it to be a tight little club. they literally cant help it. they would probably love to, if they had any idea how.Apr 14 21:28
mateywhy cant they figure it out? they cant seem to reverse engineer a driver for their ears.Apr 14 21:28
mateypityApr 14 21:28
mateyeven rms has demonstrated this problem (dramatically so) with regards to hardwareApr 14 21:29
mateythat alone is a huge problem, for reasons you and leah both can explainApr 14 21:29
mateybut also an example of a larger (hearing) problem that rms passes down to his acolytesApr 14 21:29
mateyand this was sustainable for a few decades, and has now collapsedApr 14 21:30
mateyleaving any and all who truly care about such a legacy going forward to pick up and do with it what they willApr 14 21:30
mateyit wasnt my first choice. my first (second, third) choice was for more of the "foundation" to stay intactApr 14 21:31
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mateybut it couldnt, i supposeApr 14 21:31
mateyi heard from a (libertarian) friend of mine today, named sage, who i told about the rms talkApr 14 21:32
mateynot THAT sage, of courseApr 14 21:32
mateyshe said bummer, but if its worth doing it will go on (with people doing as they see fit)Apr 14 21:32
mateyrms (like others) made one concession to "open source" in his talk yesterdayApr 14 21:33
mateyopen source razed the temple and looted its contents, and murdered the high priestApr 14 21:34
mateyrms is truly beatenApr 14 21:34
mateyi listened to the talk three times yesterday. i told the chief gnewsance it was meant as a state of the union, but read more like articles of surrenderApr 14 21:35
mateyi know it wasnt intended that way. which makes it all that much sadderApr 14 21:36
psydroid2everything has a beginning and an endApr 14 21:37
psydroid2and then a new cycle startsApr 14 21:37
matey<psydroid2> and then a new cycle starts <- you took my response, but its alrightApr 14 21:37
mateyi will be one of the people who always sees rms as the founder of all thisApr 14 21:39
mateyhowever, even with thatApr 14 21:39
mateyill give credit to those who pushed just as notably early onApr 14 21:39
mateylike gilmoreApr 14 21:39
mateylessig stole stallmans ideas, proudly, and was never shy to admit itApr 14 21:40
mateyi adore himApr 14 21:40
mateylessig is the shitApr 14 21:40
mateypity cc is even farther from its founder than the fsf is from its ownApr 14 21:40
mateystallman stole his ideas too. though im not sure he did so deliberately, it certainly wasnt from open source, and i doubt he realises how far from original his idea really wasApr 14 21:41
mateykingoffrance would probably argue that no idea is original, and i would agreeApr 14 21:42
mateyonly sins are original, and even then very very few of them :)Apr 14 21:42
matey(im mostly thinking of the vatican rag, one of of the funniest and silliest songs ive ever heard)Apr 14 21:43
mateyi dont like torvalds. i really dislike him. hes a schmuck.Apr 14 21:45
mateyhowever, i still think hes better than gkh and i think if he hadnt been cancelled he would have chosen a better successor (and that was the point)Apr 14 21:46
mateyrms too has lost the opportunity to find a successor. he will support whoever they put in front of them, having little real choice or power.Apr 14 21:46
mateyand he will hope for the best. as if thats all any of us can do. and we will be asked to join him in that.Apr 14 21:47
mateybut just as lessig says the point of elections is to choose from a very small pool of people already selected by primaries controlled by moneyApr 14 21:47
mateythe fsf will move into place people not worth our time as stallmans successorApr 14 21:48
mateyand it will be painfully obvious, but we will still be expected to give our support.Apr 14 21:48
mateyat that point it will be good to remember that the fsf has no real authorityApr 14 21:48
mateyit had cultural relevance, and it will still have historical relevance, and (imo) it betrayed us all several timesApr 14 21:49
mateymostly by capitulating to its own enemies-- and then asking us to join it in doing soApr 14 21:49
mateybut, fuck that.Apr 14 21:49
mateyit wouldnt be anything remotely like the first progressive institution to make such a fatal mistake, and become irrelevant as a resultApr 14 21:50
mateynor does progress end with the end of such institutionsApr 14 21:50
mateynor do fake things like open source preclude the possibility of non-cynical alternativesApr 14 21:50
psydroid2you have to be willing to make yourself obsoleteApr 14 21:51
mateyjust because open source is fake doesnt mean every alternative will beApr 14 21:51
psydroid2as an individual or as an organisationApr 14 21:51
mateyimagine if the wright brothers had tried to control the apollo missionApr 14 21:51
matey"no no, no, you need balsa flaps to make sure the rocket can steer towards its course!"Apr 14 21:52
mateywell i mean, with that level of thrust balsa flaps are probably fucking useless (though im not a rocket scientist)Apr 14 21:52
matey(neither are the wright brothers)Apr 14 21:52
mateyimagine if einstein had told hawking to go fuck himself, or if we had left relativity up to newtonApr 14 21:53
mateythese are all very important people we owe swaths of scientific progress toApr 14 21:53
mateynone are small or unimportantApr 14 21:53
mateybut free software in its present state cant sustain (or even defend) itselfApr 14 21:54
mateyit has failedApr 14 21:54
mateyand it must go on somehowApr 14 21:54
mateytrying to stand up to the war on general computing, with the tools the fsf has availableApr 14 21:54
mateyis like trying to figure out quantum mechanics with newtons laws of motionApr 14 21:55
mateywe must have new strategies-- they wont be entirely unlike the old strategiesApr 14 21:55
mateybut just like you cant put an ancient copy of apache up and then secure it with old versions of security toolsApr 14 21:56
mateywe need bigger upgrades than the fsf can organiseApr 14 21:56
mateyor is willing to organiseApr 14 21:56
mateyand im not arguing for bloat-- im saying that the fsf is a bloated poorly maintained messApr 14 21:57
mateydont fix whats not brokenApr 14 21:57
mateybut fix whatever has failedApr 14 21:57
psydroid2scientific development always goes on after branching out in several directionsApr 14 22:04
mateyit has to explore new possibilitiesApr 14 22:04
mateymany of which will prove to be dead ends-- but without exploring, youre already at a dead endApr 14 22:05
mateythe fsfs approach was nearly confucianist in its natureApr 14 22:07
mateywe have thousands of years of experience with the limitations of such an approachApr 14 22:07
mateybut we actually hit the limit a few years agoApr 14 22:08
mateyim not saying it couldnt have gone on longer, it was certainly attackedApr 14 22:09
mateybut it didnt stand up to it, as much as they put a brave face on everything-- no one is fooledApr 14 22:09
mateytheyre standing on their own ruinsApr 14 22:09
mateythey refuse to learn from the experience, except to capitulate further, which they were already doing when the attacks startedApr 14 22:10
mateywe learn. we apply. they insist. we ignore.Apr 14 22:11
mateywe have already parted ways with them.Apr 14 22:11
mateynewtons inertia still applies. it drags the divorce out.Apr 14 22:13
mateywe divide up all our things-- thousands of them. the difference from a traditional divorce being that copies are as good as the originals, but we still have to decide what to take with us.Apr 14 22:14
mateyit will be a vaugely similar process if mankind ever makes it out of the solar systemApr 14 22:15
mateythis planet wont sustain us forever even if we learn to stop destroying itApr 14 22:16
mateybut if we make it that far, we will leave the solar nestApr 14 22:16
mateyand the sun will explodeApr 14 22:17
mateyand they wont elect a new oneApr 14 22:17
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matey 14 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Shaka Zulu vs Julius Caesar. Epic Rap Battles of History - InvidiousApr 14 22:23
mateycaesar will fallApr 14 22:23
mateybut not to shaka zuluApr 14 22:24
MinceRdundee will fallApr 14 22:24
matey<MinceR> dundee will fall 14 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GLORYHAMMER - The Land of Unicorns (Official Lyric Video) | Napalm Records - InvidiousApr 14 22:28
MinceRindeedApr 14 22:28
mateythanks, i wasnt expecting heavy metal unicornsApr 14 22:28
MinceR:)Apr 14 22:29
mateyif jack black ever makes a sequel to school of rock this needs to be in itApr 14 22:30
MinceR:>Apr 14 22:30
mateythe points on the corners of the font are too muchApr 14 22:34
mateyim never going to look at the metallica logo the same way ever againApr 14 22:34
matey"why are the letters like that?"Apr 14 22:34
matey"those are unicorn horns"Apr 14 22:35
matey"oh"Apr 14 22:35
matey"wait, what?"Apr 14 22:35
matey"On 22 August 2021, Gloryhammer announced that Thomas Winkler had exited the band.[18] Winkler addressed the situation, stating he was fired via an email that cited the band's reasons for his departure as disagreements on business and organizational matters."Apr 14 22:37
mateyit wasnt that. they just thought his name wasnt metal enoughApr 14 22:38
matey"oh cmon, what about the fonz? aaaaaaaaaaayy"Apr 14 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Space Unicorn - Parry Gripp and Brianne Drouhard - InvidiousApr 14 22:55
mateycloser to the beatles when they still sang "yeah yeah yeah" in their lyricsApr 14 22:56
mateynot so metalApr 14 22:56
chunky\m/ METAL AF \m/Apr 14 22:57
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*psydruid saw Megadeth live in concert but not MetallicaApr 14 23:05
mateyyou made the right choiceApr 14 23:05
mateyi wont lie, i was never really a megadeth fanApr 14 23:05
mateybut if i could go back and give a shit about them instead, that would be alrightApr 14 23:06
mateyim not ashamed that i liked metallica. i dont think they actually sucked back thenApr 14 23:06
mateyby the time i was in high school though, i could only laugh and shake my headApr 14 23:06
mateythe first two cds i bought were weird al and metallicas selftitled (deny) albumApr 14 23:08
psydruidI don't have any of Megadeth's albums and I do have the older Metallica albums, but I don't really know what they're about anymore these daysApr 14 23:08
mateyi honestly think rock sort of died in the past 15 years or soApr 14 23:08
mateythe last time i heard a rock band that actually sounded like a rock band, it was anvil (dave grohl was saying how great they were. he was also really smashed)Apr 14 23:09
mateygloryhammer is more recent, they sound fun at least but when i was listening i was like "shit, i hope theyre not white supremacists"Apr 14 23:10
mateyprobably not, if mincer was referencing themApr 14 23:10
mateybut like thats where we are with rock music sort of...Apr 14 23:10
mateyto be fair i REALLY havent been paying attention, im happy if im wrongApr 14 23:10
mateystill if i hear anything metal i have no idea what im listening toApr 14 23:10
mateyi still look like a MIGHT play a bass thoughApr 14 23:11
mateyor sell organic smoothies, one of the two.Apr 14 23:11
psydruidI sort of grew up with rock and metal, but as you said it doesn't seem to really be in vogue anymoreApr 14 23:14
mateyand i dont care whats in, i still like some of the stuff i liked as a little kidApr 14 23:14
mateybeatles, lennon, phil collins, huey lewisApr 14 23:14
mateyand i like a lot of electronicaApr 14 23:15
mateywith rock i think its either sincere or its bullshitApr 14 23:15
mateyand i think most rock is... i dont know what the fuck it isApr 14 23:15
mateyit went through a really bad patch for a while and i havent picked it back upApr 14 23:16
psydruidI listen to all kinds of things these days, as long as I believe it's good musicApr 14 23:16
mateyi blame california.Apr 14 23:16
mateyyeah good music is good musicApr 14 23:16
mateyi fucking hate country, its my least favourite genre 10 times overApr 14 23:16
mateyeven there there are exceptionsApr 14 23:16
mateyi like klezmer, i wasnt expecting thatApr 14 23:16
mateybut i had a friend who played accordion for a klezmer bandApr 14 23:17
mateywhat can i tell youApr 14 23:17
psydruidI got some klezmer music from Poland when I was living thereApr 14 23:17
psydruidI haven't listened to a lot of it, thoughApr 14 23:18
matey yes, roundaboutApr 14 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Yes - Roundabout (Original 1971) - InvidiousApr 14 23:18
MinceRrocktronicaApr 14 23:19
mateytheres a klezmer version of "talk dirty to me" but i like the original betterApr 14 23:19
*XRevan86 will take this time to listen to Yes – Roundabout for no reason whatsoever.Apr 14 23:19
mateyits time well spentApr 14 23:19
mateyi love bobby mcferrin and reggie wattsApr 14 23:20
psydruidI used to listen to quite a bit of electronic music but these days mostly for nostalgic reasonsApr 14 23:20
XRevan86matey: I absolutely love it.Apr 14 23:20
psydruidrocktronica is coolApr 14 23:20
psydruidoh, yesApr 14 23:21
matey Apr 14 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Reggie Watts (Key & Peele outro song) 'I Just Want To' (2009) - InvidiousApr 14 23:21
mateyXRevan86: yes is fucking epicApr 14 23:21
XRevan86It's the part of my music tastes where people say "the heck is this?"Apr 14 23:21
psydruidalways heard that name but never really listened to themApr 14 23:21
mateyi grew up on british music and "oldies" but not in the ukApr 14 23:22
mateythe first solo artist i liked was phil collinsApr 14 23:22
XRevan86Italian music here.Apr 14 23:22
mateymy favourite song this week is some random accordion song played on a bus by some middle aged man in belarusApr 14 23:23
mateyif its not that good i wouldnt be able to tell you, im no expertApr 14 23:23
psydruidIndian music here and rock, metal and electronica mostly from the 90sApr 14 23:23
psydruidso I don't really know much from the 70s and beforeApr 14 23:24
mateyi still love counting crows-- though when i teased dfc about finding it in his buicks cd player i was teasingApr 14 23:24
matey90s music had fucking depthApr 14 23:24
mateyeven the pop music (sometimes)Apr 14 23:25
psydruidthat's a good band, I have some of their albumsApr 14 23:25
mateythere was a lot of shit too. i still like aqua :)Apr 14 23:25
psydruidfrom the 90s, yesApr 14 23:25
psydruidoh :)Apr 14 23:25
mateyi have no pride-- i was a debbie gibson fan.Apr 14 23:25
mateyshe cant be all bad, she loves billy joel.Apr 14 23:26
mateyof course no one says anything after thatApr 14 23:27
matey"the swastika tattoo was one thing, but debbie gibson?" (i made up the tattoo part)Apr 14 23:28
mateytheres a true story, from trent reznor, that sometimes to get pumped up before going on stage he would listen to cece penistonApr 14 23:29
mateyi remember her. its fucking hilarious.Apr 14 23:29
mateyhes too muchApr 14 23:29
psydruidhahaApr 14 23:31
psydruidI know he had something with tori amosApr 14 23:31
matey 14 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Focus - Hocus Pocus Live '73 - InvidiousApr 14 23:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living created on 2022-04-03 06:05:22.118991Apr 14 23:35
mateyi have no idea how much coke you have to do to perform that song, but it cant be healthyApr 14 23:38
psydruidFree as a bird => FreebirdApr 14 23:44
matey 14 23:53
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