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| techrights-news | FSD meeting recap 2022-10-14 https://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory/fsd-meeting-recap-2022-10-14 meeting moderated by people who demanded that FSF founder be removed from FSF | Oct 15 00:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSD meeting recap 2022-10-14 — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Oct 15 00:10 | |
| techrights-news | "October 7, 2022 meeting, where we saw a couple of new programs added, an update to a collection page, and a discussion on the value of providing licensing and copyright notification file headers to every code file." "https://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory/fsd-meeting-recap-2022-10-07 | Oct 15 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSD meeting recap 2022-10-07 — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Oct 15 00:11 | |
| techrights-news | Libera* Software Foundation. (*see Code of Conduct for things you cannot see or say) | Oct 15 00:12 |
| techrights-news | "If you have Windows installed on your computer and then installed a Linux distro next to that, your computer may not boot from the correct drive." https://www.androidauthority.com/change-windows-boot-drive-bios-3220576/ | Oct 15 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | How to change the Windows boot drive in BIOS - Android Authority | Oct 15 00:14 | |
| techrights-news | "The FIRST first was on gemlog.blue, which I quickly left after realizing it was completely unmoderated. The SECOND first was on smol.pub, which is a lovely place with a great dev, but over time I came to decide I wanted to keep my gemlog here on my capsule and maintain it myself." gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/gemlog/first_entry.gmi | Oct 15 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Doctor Pizza not the "Doctor" with the DoorDash Pizza? | Oct 15 00:20 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/coming2.gif ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-coming#comic ) | Oct 15 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Oct 15 00:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Don't mind mjg59_. | Oct 15 00:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 15 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | He was just getting in a quick Pepperoni pizza before the land of fruits, nuts, and flakes has their pork ban go into effect. | Oct 15 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Fucking morons. | Oct 15 00:27 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/10/14/1129000615/the-fda-declares-a-shortage-of-adderall | Oct 15 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | The FDA has officially declared a shortage of ADHD drug Adderall : NPR | Oct 15 00:54 | |
| DaemonFC | "So some people are just going without," he said. "You know, they're not doing as well at their jobs. They're not really able to keep up as much in professional and personal relationships. Some people I've talked to are trying to compensate with other sort of stimulants, drinking a lot of coffee, energy drinks – people I've talked to who have thought about going to the black market." | Oct 15 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Drug addicts. | Oct 15 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/10/14/1129172979/election-software-ceo-is-charged-with-allegedly-giving-chinese-contractors-data- | Oct 15 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | CEO of poll worker scheduling software company Konnech charged in Los Angeles : NPR | Oct 15 00:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Slipping data to the Chinese. | Oct 15 00:58 |
| techrights-news | Trying to blame "GoLang" because people write programs in GoLang and "Linux" because people can install malware on Linux https://www.hackread.com/alchimist-attack-framework-linux-windows-mac/ | Oct 15 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hackread.com | Linux, Windows and macOS Hit By New "Alchimist" Attack Framework | Oct 15 01:11 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): The Wine development release 7.19 is now available. ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/wine_719.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/wine_719.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — The Wine development release 7.19 is now available. | Oct 15 01:12 | |
| techrights-news | Using Wikipedia from the Linux command line | Network World ⚓ https://www.networkworld.com/article/3676572/using-wikipedia-from-the-linux-command-line.html ䷉ Source: Network World | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.networkworld.com/article/3676572/using-wikipedia-from-the-linux-command-line.html | Oct 15 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Using Wikipedia from the Linux command line | Network World | Oct 15 01:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2022/10/13/1126878376/christian-lee-captures-black-gun-ownership-in-armed-doesnt-mean-dangerous | Oct 15 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | These are the faces of the rising number of Black gun owners in the U.S. : The Picture Show : NPR | Oct 15 01:32 | |
| DaemonFC | They mean ones with a permit, I'm assuming? | Oct 15 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | The ones with the permits are getting them because of the people without the permits that the cops just watch commit felonies and then go "What do you want us to do about it? Oh here, we'll frame you for a traffic ticket while we're here.". | Oct 15 01:35 |
| XRevan86 | https://openwrt.org/releases/22.03/notes-22.03.1 | Oct 15 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] OpenWrt 22.03.1 - Service Release - 12 October 2022 | Oct 15 01:37 | |
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| whitenigga | frog: you're insane dawg | Oct 15 01:59 |
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| *starstreak picks up her vape, presses the button and inhales | Oct 15 02:04 | |
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| reptilian_thrills | starstreak! if there must beee streeeeaaak, pleeeeease let this staaaarrstreeeeaaaaak... | Oct 15 02:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | staaaaaayyy..... | Oct 15 02:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | </billmurray> | Oct 15 02:28 |
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| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techpol + social irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-141022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-141022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-141022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-141022.txt | Oct 15 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 14, 2022 | Oct 15 02:41 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 14, 2022 | Oct 15 02:44 | |
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| AdmFubar | oh this is just wrong https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/10/researchers-make-cyborg-cockroaches-that-carry-their-own-power-packs/ | Oct 15 03:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Researchers make cyborg cockroaches that carry their own power packs | Ars Technica | Oct 15 03:05 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/311666518_547216697405301_3257991382648606889_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=_w42PFAKhdcAX9_ekK9&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=00_AT9OsER-g3jwEKxUp1BzOlYsAafriivyo7q-pF4Fl2YaDg&oe=634E0F7C | Oct 15 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 15 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/10/13/1128694481/with-two-black-men-running-for-senate-in-georgia-race-takes-center-stage | Oct 15 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Raphael Warnock and Hershel Walker discuss race in Georgia Senate contest : NPR | Oct 15 03:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Ah, yes, the contender on the right. A dumb piece of shit football celebrity with 150 traumatic brain injuries, who sired kids with women all over Georgia that he wasn't married to, and ran out on all of them. Endorsed by Trump. | Oct 15 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | And the contender on the left, a longtime married man, pastor, and father. | Oct 15 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | How is the polling on this even close? | Oct 15 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | I could never vote for a man like Herschel Walker. I mean, for fuck's sake. The guy's favorite pastime is obviously making lots and lots of illegitimate kids from broken homes and having women chasing him for child support. | Oct 15 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | At least Trump managed to find a guy who went to college (on the football team, so.....they find you classes that are almost impossible for anyone to fail). | Oct 15 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 15 03:32 |
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| geert | supsupsupsup | Oct 15 03:36 |
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| AdmFubar | and you think you have it bad... https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/15/potty-prices-sydney-studio-apartment-with-toilet-in-kitchen-on-market-for-520-a-week | Oct 15 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Potty prices: Sydney studio apartment with toilet in kitchen on market for $520 a week | Housing | The Guardian | Oct 15 03:40 | |
| geert | thats not regular inflation effects anymore | Oct 15 03:41 |
| geert | uh oh | Oct 15 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | If Illinois had voter ID, it wouldn't be this nonsense from the 18th century where they're at the county clerk going "That doesn't look like Ryan Farmer's signature!". | Oct 15 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | And it's a couple of 90 year old women without their readers on. | Oct 15 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | Because there's nothing better to do when you're on Social Security waiting to die. | Oct 15 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, there's no question of who can vote or not. | Oct 15 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | If you're a felon, you can't vote. | Oct 15 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | If you're anyone else, bring some form of state-issued photo ID on it with your address listed. | Oct 15 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, then you run into other problems. | Oct 15 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | Like that lady who confused me with another Ryan Farmer living in the county and said "You already voted! I'm calling the police!" Again, 90 year old woman, nothing better to do, on a power trip. | Oct 15 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | My fucking God. Can you believe how much the limo liberals like mjg59_ would be shitting themselves if I was black and running into these people? | Oct 15 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost like it just happens to white men too, you know? | Oct 15 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody covers it on the news. | Oct 15 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | The cops pull white men over and kill them. | Oct 15 03:48 |
| geert | voting dont make much sense anyway when some people figure the so called 'masses' 'dumb deplorables' who would threaten state security by un- or mis-informed voting instead of more of correctly addressing underlying issues | Oct 15 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | The election workers threaten to call the police on a white man trying to vote. | Oct 15 03:48 |
| geert | doesnt* voting doesn't | Oct 15 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | You ask for an apartment with a misdemeanor on your record, they threaten you there too.....white man. | Oct 15 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | Won't someone please think of the white men? | Oct 15 03:49 |
| geert | so many people kind of tangled up with them 'colors' i guess | Oct 15 03:49 |
| geert | so much nonsense | Oct 15 03:49 |
| geert | its not the 'colors' | Oct 15 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen Darren Bailey's tax returns. Five years of them. | Oct 15 03:50 |
| geert | besides its not black and white either, those are not considered 'colors' and actually nobody really is black or white | Oct 15 03:50 |
| geert | its more like everybody is 'colored', some more dark, others less dark | Oct 15 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes he doesn't have any money to tax because his farm lost money that year. | Oct 15 03:50 |
| geert | it kind of begins there already | Oct 15 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | He makes more money as a Illinois State Senator than he does farming. | Oct 15 03:50 |
| geert | if we dont get to adress it more properly, e.g. stopping the nonsense about black and white and just regarding everyone colored, i dont get to expect much improvement soon | Oct 15 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's true that he could sell the land for a few million bucks, and it's also true that on the whole he makes some money with his farm, but I mean, the guy is not a multi-billion dollar hotel heir. | Oct 15 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Like what he have in there now. | Oct 15 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Like, it's a guy that's out on his tractor in blue jeans, filling out his income tax forms like everyone else. | Oct 15 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like Pritzker. | Oct 15 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for him last time because Brucer Rauner was an incompetent fool who was essentially a Democrat in the worst ways and as crooked as any of them are. | Oct 15 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | *Bruce | Oct 15 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | He made money with a hedge fund. He signed a bill that created taxpayer-funded abortion for all state employees and women on Medicaid. | Oct 15 03:52 |
| geert | btw whats up with the kind of inflexible old hacker space decoration called MinceR maybe? | Oct 15 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | And he got into a pissing match with Mike Madigan, who offered him a "compromise package", and Rauner threatened a veto. So Madigan just kept the state government unfunded for two years. And in those two years, stuff still got done in Madigan's district, including a brand new High School. | Oct 15 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's ridiculous. Once every couple years you get a ballot and maybe there's even a few choices on it. | Oct 15 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | And they try to stop it from going in the box. | Oct 15 03:55 |
| geert | many so calledpromises are more to lure you in on purpose than planned to be kept as well | Oct 15 03:55 |
| geert | kind of complications in regard to voting process as well i guess | Oct 15 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose if voting made no difference at all, then what happened to me today wouldn't be possible. | Oct 15 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | After all, what difference does it make, so why would they care? | Oct 15 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're panicking. The Democrats are. | Oct 15 03:56 |
| geert | well of course it got effects, called 'difference', although not necessarily as appointed officially | Oct 15 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're sending out panicked emails to me saying that they need "3,000 more voters" in Waukegan than last time or they could lose the Supreme Court. | Oct 15 03:57 |
| geert | oof not just them, much 'republicans' arent really in their right minds either | Oct 15 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | Good, fuck em. | Oct 15 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | I already voted for the Republican for the Supreme Court. | Oct 15 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | I want the FOID Act gone. | Oct 15 03:57 |
| geert | i think it basically comes down to; not just voting process but underlying so called 'politics' basically got hijacked | Oct 15 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | Now they need to find 3,001 voters in Waukegan, I suppose. | Oct 15 03:57 |
| geert | see this so called politics it kind of get influence in public affairs and commercial interest got kind of heftier lobby than regular workers, even if bundled via unions | Oct 15 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | They obviously don't have this thing in the bag if they've lost me. | Oct 15 03:58 |
| geert | meaning the one lobby got more influence than the other, and supposed politics couldnt stay with 'common interest' so shifted to heftier lobby, but without provoking conflict by explaining it properly to 'voters' | Oct 15 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know about Bailey and lobbyists. | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | The business groups were trying to prop up Richard Irvin. | Oct 15 03:59 |
| geert | voting process effects is more of result to such complications, it should be expected as corrupted as so called politics moved from common interest to particular interest so to speak | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Ken Griffin lost $50 million on Irvin and then said he was leaving Illinois. | Oct 15 03:59 |
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| geert | oof im not really into those names in depth from the netherlands | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Griffin was one of the few Republican megadonors in Illinois politics. | Oct 15 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | He was the one behind Rauner too. | Oct 15 03:59 |
| geert | we got quite some stuff going in netherlands ourselves so to speak, currently | Oct 15 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | The big money was all on Irvin. | Oct 15 04:00 |
| geert | not trying to be rude, maybe in a bit i get to look up a bit into those names, probably would stimulate better discussion here | Oct 15 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | And once he lost the primary election, big time, they haven't been so excited. | Oct 15 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like being bribed and Pritzker was trying to bribe me. | Oct 15 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | They sent $50 for me and $50 for my spouse, but $100, really? | Oct 15 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | In the middle of THIS? | Oct 15 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | And where did the state come up with that? | Oct 15 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | And why are couples with two kids who make $400,000 getting $200? | Oct 15 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | Does $200 make much difference on an income of $400,000? | Oct 15 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | I was talking to schestowitz[TR] about the cash bribes with your own money. | Oct 15 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | And they slip them to people who ARE....NOT....POOR. And.....do not need it! | Oct 15 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | If they cut that shit out and set a $75,000 household cap or something, they could double it and at least make some difference to people getting crushed under inflation right now! | Oct 15 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think there should be a stimulus check for any household making over $75,000 unless maybe they have kids, and then they should probably make the cap $95,000 or something. | Oct 15 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just not okay with stimulus checks going to people with six figure incomes. | Oct 15 04:04 |
| geert | one should strive for less corruption in any system, which would favor the systems original purpose, so to speak | Oct 15 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | It's a psychologically important thing, you know? | Oct 15 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | What do people with $400,000 a year do with a $50 check from the government? MMM? | Oct 15 04:04 |
| geert | but we get to deal with kind of peculiar situations, in many aspects of society, where quite some people try utilize the corruption with systems | Oct 15 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 15 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Good for one free oil change at Walmart. -Pritzker | Oct 15 04:05 |
| geert | this is basically described where fast most difficulties stem from, from a more of direct perspective | Oct 15 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if Matt GULAG got his California stimulus from Governor French Laundry. | Oct 15 04:05 |
| geert | whether its law system, digital system, voting system, systems should basically not be corrupt as it stimulates 'dysfunction' | Oct 15 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | Or if it just went to illegal immigrants. | Oct 15 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Chime in buddy. | Oct 15 04:06 |
| geert | and that is not why people tried systems | Oct 15 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | Don't hold it back. I hate French Laundry too, you know! | Oct 15 04:06 |
| geert | they tried systems to deal experience of difficulties/hardship better | Oct 15 04:06 |
| geert | and dysfunction doesnt favor that dealing | Oct 15 04:06 |
| geert | so regarding money, definition of money, so called monetary system, we get to see that quite some people favor predictability within market than the volatility of market consisting of more authentic difficulties and tries to match possibilities to those difficulties, sometimes referred to as 'problems - solutions dynamic' | Oct 15 04:07 |
| geert | that trying to favor predictability over quality, as an example, is basically coming down to utilzing corrupting the system instead of minimizing corrupting the system | Oct 15 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | California is so mismanaged that they chased out like 560,000 of their residents, net, over the last ten years. | Oct 15 04:08 |
| geert | without that, regarding money, you BET all lobying would be stimulated in very different functioning | Oct 15 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | And that's on top of the ones that keeled over of COVID and had to deal with the fires. | Oct 15 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | Governor French Laundry dining with no mask on with rich pals, sending prisoners out to deal with fire. | Oct 15 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, That's your governor! | Oct 15 04:09 |
| geert | so lobbying is result to that, to a quite significant extent, to which suppposed 'politics' is result to lobbying to which voting process is result to supposed politics | Oct 15 04:09 |
| geert | so malicious corrupted cause leading to expectable malicious corrupted results | Oct 15 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think many of us would mind if California finally fell into the ocean. | Oct 15 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad, watching what's happening to San Francisco. | Oct 15 04:09 |
| geert | well that suggestion seems a bit harsh to me | Oct 15 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | They're experiencing like 500-600 layoffs a day there now. | Oct 15 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | Soon there won't be anything left of the place. | Oct 15 04:10 |
| geert | you dont need to be overly hostile because they refuse to do something else than make many mistakes there, so to speak | Oct 15 04:10 |
| geert | well its not going all too good, thats for sure | Oct 15 04:10 |
| geert | but hey some so called 'red states' got issues too bro no kidding ya | Oct 15 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | The "red states" grow the food and manufacture things and have power generation. | Oct 15 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | The blue states get freaks like mjg59_ whose work will be wiped out soon in a tech crash bankruptcy. | Oct 15 04:12 |
| geert | oh its might be different issues | Oct 15 04:12 |
| geert | but without addressing the corrupting the system against each other, i dont think many red or blue change much | Oct 15 04:13 |
| geert | look its both sides not muchpolitics left | Oct 15 04:13 |
| geert | lots of crap, hijacked crap, and those trying to utilize misuse of money behind it, well, those pretty much dont care much color anyway | Oct 15 04:13 |
| geert | thats more like elitism to what they consider stupid and replacable, or uber/untermensch kind except not so much with race as with hitler but more with whats considered 'economical interest representation' | Oct 15 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, so they spend their time mocking people. The people who run the economy that they depend on. Who do actual work. | Oct 15 04:15 |
| geert | very much corrupted 'economical interest' though | Oct 15 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | And then they wonder where people like Trump come from. | Oct 15 04:15 |
| geert | 'market effects' has lead to things like 'top dog' positions moving FAR AWAY from 'top of the bill mentality within group' | Oct 15 04:16 |
| geert | meaning group as system got corrupted thus gain of dysfunction | Oct 15 04:16 |
| geert | this monetary flawed design doesnt stimulate top of the bill mentality closer to top dog position so to speak | Oct 15 04:16 |
| geert | its reverse, so without addressing these relatively easy matter more properly, there is not much improvement to be expected | Oct 15 04:17 |
| geert | it dont matter much if its called red, blue, democratic or republican, the shit is paid pretty much by what we call money | Oct 15 04:17 |
| geert | so we got to deal them dynamics first if we collectively get to aim for more improvement so to speak | Oct 15 04:17 |
| geert | theres not much 'but' there. | Oct 15 04:17 |
| geert | its gotten this much of misery, that much so called 'status quo' is considered professionalism within system a threat and tries to attack it | Oct 15 04:18 |
| geert | and then some people under disguise of great reset pretty much rather 'de-populate' in order to keep the corrupted monetary crapthan to address it properly | Oct 15 04:19 |
| geert | i mean the corrupted monetary crap that gets to cause almost all the other crap | Oct 15 04:19 |
| geert | so to speak | Oct 15 04:19 |
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| geert | making this great reset caller, on the outside, in reality more of a build up of a 'vierten reich' albeit the organizers strive for much more succesful one than hitlers dritten reich tries | Oct 15 04:20 |
| geert | yea we got some serious issues these days, it go bit beyond cali and what not blue or red states, pretty much throughout the globe | Oct 15 04:20 |
| geert | did you get to know that without supposed 'globalist' warmongerers .ru still wouldn't have gotten to annex crimea TO THIS FRICKEN DAY? | Oct 15 04:21 |
| geert | as an example | Oct 15 04:21 |
| geert | boy we got quite the issues currently and more than quite some decades ago, lots of supposed knowledged people that meanwhile just more of conformistically repeat nonsense from goons than actually fricken understand much | Oct 15 04:21 |
| geert | yea, we got some serious issues | Oct 15 04:21 |
| geert | oh wow i didnt got banned yet | Oct 15 04:24 |
| geert | yeayea we getting some hackers a bit moarinto hacking lately i gues | Oct 15 04:25 |
| geert | yeayea theydont need to like me | Oct 15 04:25 |
| geert | but fuck they start to get some it seem | Oct 15 04:25 |
| geert | haha | Oct 15 04:25 |
| geert | oh welli might had better post this in #2600 but i guess it dont matter much these days | Oct 15 04:26 |
| geert | in this interconnectedworld lol | Oct 15 04:26 |
| geert | j/k anyways.. but i wasnt kidding about the monetary system, red/blue, politics, viertenreich/great reset, crimea etc. | Oct 15 04:27 |
| geert | just a little bit sassy last few lines | Oct 15 04:27 |
| geert | lets see if we get MinceR going a bit as an example | Oct 15 04:27 |
| geert | anyways | Oct 15 04:27 |
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| geert | gtg maybe ttyl :) | Oct 15 04:53 |
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| DaemonFC | We have the Democrats in Illinois causing gridlock again by promoting heavy traffic, only with toll roads and surge pricing instead of freeways. | Oct 15 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | We wouldn't need 8 lanes in every direction and the whole city breathing smog if they'd do work from home from now on. | Oct 15 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | When we had the COVID lockdowns and people were working from home, there was almost no rush hour at all. They were pulling some people over for going 150 miles an hour through Chicago on the freeway just because they could. | Oct 15 05:53 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, October 14, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Oct 15 07:02 |
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| techrights-news | "LaTeX — the age-old typesetting system — makes me angry. Not because it's bad. To clarify, not because there's something better." ☛ https://jmtd.net/log/latex_writing/ | | Oct 15 07:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd → log → Focus writing with (despite) LaTeX | Oct 15 07:10 | |
| techrights-news | "It’s time to get me up to speed with modern CSS." ☛ https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day15/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic | Oct 15 07:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.matuzo.at | Day 15: the :modal pseudo-class - Manuel Matuzović | Oct 15 07:10 | |
| techrights-news | "What I'm documenting here is an extension of the full-bleed CSS Grid layout." ☛ https://ryanmulligan.dev/blog/layout-breakouts/ | | Oct 15 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ryanmulligan.dev | Layout Breakouts with CSS Grid | Ryan Mulligan | Oct 15 07:11 | |
| techrights-news | "Using the shiniest new technologies is rarely the cause for success, it's usually the result." ☛ https://www.karlsutt.com/articles/you-should-not-be-using-aws/ | | Oct 15 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.karlsutt.com | You should not be using AWS. Probably. | Oct 15 07:12 | |
| techrights-news | "We have a reasonable number of Linux servers, almost all of them running various versions of Ubuntu." ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SwapPartitionsNoMore | Source: uni Toronto | Oct 15 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SwapPartitionsNoMore | Oct 15 07:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Getting started with a new device management platform is a drag. You have to get familiar with the terminology and the environment." ☛ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/14/use-your-phone-as-an-iot-device-in-the-arduino-cloud/ | Source: Arduino | Oct 15 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Use your phone as an IoT device in the Arduino Cloud | Arduino Blog | Oct 15 07:12 | |
| techrights-news | "For reasons I’ll discuss later, I only solved the 5-by-5 game, and the situation may be different for the 6-by-6 variant." ☛ https://nullprogram.com/blog/2022/10/12/ | | Oct 15 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nullprogram.com | I solved the Dandelions paper-and-pencil game | Oct 15 07:13 | |
| techrights-news | "Capture cards aren't cheap, especially if you want to record or stream footage at a high resolution and framerate." ☛ https://www.pcgamer.com/this-diyer-built-themselves-an-awesome-open-source-hdmi-capture-card-for-only-dollar10/ | Source: PC Gamer | Oct 15 07:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcgamer.com | This DIYer built themselves an awesome open-source HDMI capture card for only $10 | PC Gamer | Oct 15 07:14 | |
| techrights-news | "And that is it. The A3010 appears to be in full working order. Now I just need to find some time to play on it!" ☛ https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/10/14/acorn-archimedes-a3010-restoration-part-4/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings | Oct 15 07:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxjedi.co.uk | Acorn Archimedes A3010: Restoration Part 4 – LinuxJedi's /dev/null | Oct 15 07:14 | |
| techrights-news | "You may have noticed that a Raspberry Pi is sold essentially naked." ☛ https://magpi.raspberrypi.com/articles/10-amazing-raspberry-pi-cases | Source: Raspberry Pi | Oct 15 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-magpi.raspberrypi.com | 10 amazing Raspberry Pi cases — The MagPi magazine | Oct 15 07:15 | |
| techrights-news | "The guide is aimed at the general public and uses illustrations and examples to help make the topics understandable for all." ☛ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/galician-region-publishes-good-practices-releasing-open-source | Source: Joinup | Oct 15 07:15 |
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| techrights-news | "Greg Linares, a security researcher, recently recounted an incident that he said occurred over the summer at a US East Coast financial firm focused on private investment." ☛ https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/12/drone-roof-attack/ | Source: The Register UK | Oct 15 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Wi-Fi spy drones used to snoop on financial firm • The Register | Oct 15 07:15 | |
| techrights-news | "A year after banning most teenage girls from attending school, the Taliban are imposing sweeping restrictions on which courses women can enrol in at public universities." ☛ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63219895 | Source: BBC | Oct 15 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Afghanistan: Taliban ban women from many university subjects - BBC News | Oct 15 07:16 | |
| techrights-news | The Intimate and Interconnected History of the Internet ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-history-of-the-internet/ | Source: The Nation | Oct 15 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Intimate and Interconnected History of the Internet | The Nation | Oct 15 07:16 | |
| DaemonFC | WordPress Editor got extremely slow in Firefox. | Oct 15 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what it does in Vivaldi. | Oct 15 07:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wordpress is going the wrong way | Oct 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | seems even itsfoss is moving to ghost | Oct 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | on news.itsfoss.com | Oct 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | many reach the conclusion static page generation is worth it | Oct 15 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | techrights might do the same late this year or next year | Oct 15 07:20 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | editor should not be in the browser | Oct 15 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there are decent editors that are editors | Oct 15 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not some JS in a canvas | Oct 15 07:21 |
| techrights-news | "Many presume that troll refers to the ugly monsters who eat people alive" ☛ https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Don't_feed_the_Troll | | Oct 15 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rationalwiki.org | Don't feed the Troll - RationalWiki | Oct 15 07:21 | |
| techrights-news | "A few observations on how technology companies can strategically use open-source from my time working on open-source at Google" ☛ https://matt-rickard.com/short-taxonomy-of-open-source-strategies | Source: Matt Rickard | Oct 15 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Short Taxonomy of Open-Source Strategies | Oct 15 07:21 | |
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| techrights-news | "On 6 October 2022, Advocate General (AG) Sánchez-Bordona issued his Opinion on CJEU case C-300/21 (UI v. Österreichische Post AG), the first of several preliminary ruling requests on the topic of damages for GDPR violations pending with the CJEU." ☛ https://noyb.eu/en/analysis-no-non-material-damages-gdpr | Source: NYOB | Oct 15 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | Legal Analysis: No non-material damages for GDPR violations? | Oct 15 07:22 | |
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| techrights-news | "There are many ways to separate a project into two projects" ☛ https://blog.josefsson.org/2022/10/14/on-language-bindings-relaunching-guile-gnutls/ | Source: Simon Josefsson | Oct 15 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.josefsson.org | On language bindings & Relaunching Guile-GnuTLS – Simon Josefsson's blog | Oct 15 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | "Konnech has provided its PollChief software to some cities and counties across the country, including Los Angeles County." ☛ https://text.npr.org/1129172979 | Source: NPR | Oct 15 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Election software CEO is charged with allegedly giving Chinese contractors data access | Oct 15 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | "This led him to surmise that he was later cut off from LinkedIn due to a complaint from Cloudflare" ☛ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/linkedin-kicks-out-infosec-expert,-then-restores-his-profile.html | Source: IT Wire | Oct 15 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - LinkedIn kicks out Infosec expert, then restores his profile | Oct 15 07:25 | |
| techrights-news | "Misinformation Amplification Factor" ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3688266-misinformation-most-amplified-on-tiktok-twitter-report/ | Source: The Hill | Oct 15 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Misinformation most amplified on TikTok, Twitter: report | The Hill | Oct 15 07:26 | |
| techrights-news | "Describing the content as AI-generated is, I think, a real stretch." ☛ https://9to5mac.com/2022/10/11/steve-jobs-ai/ | Source: 9to5Mac | Oct 15 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5mac.com | Steve Jobs AI features in spooky 'interview' with Joe Rogan AI | Oct 15 07:27 | |
| techrights-news | "There’s absolutely no attempt to pass this off as anything other than the latest exercise in marrying AI with voice synthesis." ☛ https://www.afr.com/technology/when-fake-steve-jobs-and-fake-joe-rogan-made-a-podcast-20221012-p5bpas | Source: AFR | Oct 15 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.afr.com | AI-enabled voice synthesis help fake Joe Rogan and fake Steve Jobs make a podcast | Oct 15 07:27 | |
| techrights-news | "The text of PayPal's email sent to the League of Social Democrats in September has been seen by VOA." ☛ https://www.voanews.com/a/paypal-terminates-hong-kong-account-of-pro-democracy-group/6789564.html | Source: VOA News | Oct 15 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | PayPal Terminates Hong Kong Account of Pro-Democracy Group | Oct 15 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | "Media freedom activists in Uganda have decried President Yoweri Museveni's signing of the Computer Misuse Act into law" ☛ https://www.voanews.com/a/uganda-media-activists-say-computer-law-meant-to-silence-government-critics-/6790373.html | Source: VOA News | Oct 15 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Uganda Media Activists Say Computer Law Meant to Silence Government Critics | Oct 15 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | "Chinese social media censors have blocked posts, keywords, and hashtags related to the extremely rare public protest" ☛ https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/china-censors-anti-xi-jinping-protest-ahead-of-communist-party-meet-3433264 | Source: NDTV | Oct 15 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ndtv.com | China Censors Anti-Xi Jinping Protest Ahead Of Communist Party Meet | Oct 15 07:29 | |
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| techrights-news | "Parliament adopted the law late on Thursday after it was proposed by President Tayyip Erdogan’s ruling AK Party (AKP)" ☛ https://www.arabnews.com/node/2181276/middle-east | Source: Arab News | Oct 15 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.arabnews.com | Turkish opposition calls new media law ‘censorship’, will appeal to top court | Arab News | Oct 15 07:30 | |
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| techrights-news | "After Germany closed its doors to him, Hassan took his case to the European Court of Human Rights; it, too, recently denied his appeal." ☛ https://www.frontpagemag.com/muslim-officials-deny-persecuted-christians-refuge-in-europe/ | Source: Frontpage Magazine | Oct 15 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.frontpagemag.com | Muslim ‘Officials’ Deny Persecuted Christians Refuge in Europe | Frontpage Mag | Oct 15 07:32 | |
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| techrights-news | "Assemble Media, a literary incubator which concurrently develops its book projects for film and TV adaptation" ☛ https://variety.com/2022/film/news/assemble-media-five-book-deals-1235404205/ | Source: Variety | Oct 15 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assemble Media Closes Deals for Five Titles - Variety | Oct 15 07:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Well this is perhaps exciting, seems Valve are cooking up something new with a trademark application for NEON PRIME." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/valve-filed-a-computer-game-software-trademark-for-neon-prime/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve filed a 'computer game software' trademark for 'NEON PRIME' | GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Valve released a really small update to Proton Experimental on October 13th, so here's what's new and how to use it." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/proton-experimental-updated-helping-halo-infinite-and-spider-man-remastered/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proton Experimental updated helping Halo Infinite and Spider-Man Remastered | GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Are you ready for another Sony game on Steam? The UNCHARTED: Legacy of Thieves Collection arrives on October 19th, and it's been Steam Deck Verified already." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/uncharted-legacy-of-thieves-collection-gets-steam-deck-verified-ahead-of-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UNCHARTED: Legacy of Thieves Collection gets Steam Deck Verified ahead of release | GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:38 | |
| techrights-news | "Valve has released another small Steam Deck Client Beta update to fix some lingering issues, plus they've announced a Docking Station update is on the way" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-deck-client-beta-updated-plus-official-docking-station-update-coming/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Deck Client Beta updated, plus official Docking Station update coming | GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:38 | |
| techrights-news | "After playing with it for a few weeks, here's what I think along with how to set up the M.2 Docking Station for Steam Deck from JSAUX." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/the-jsaux-m2-docking-station-for-steam-deck-is-a-great-choice/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The JSAUX M.2 Docking Station for Steam Deck is a great choice | GamingOnLinux | Oct 15 07:38 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: EC pushing m$ gimmicks https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-data/event/webinar-trends-geospatial-data | Oct 15 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Webinar on 'Trends in geospatial data' | Joinup | Oct 15 07:40 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag taking over schools? Terrible. https://record.umich.edu/articles/u-m-partners-with-google-to-offer-job-ready-tech-skills-program/ | Oct 15 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-record.umich.edu | U-M partners with Google to offer job-ready tech skills program | The University Record | Oct 15 07:40 | |
| techrights-news | Why the Internet Needs the InterPlanetary File System - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/13/0159206 ䷉ Source: Soylent News | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/13/0159206 | Oct 15 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Why the Internet Needs the InterPlanetary File System - SoylentNews | Oct 15 07:40 | |
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| techrights-news | It is proprietary, it is vendor lock-in, and it lets Microsoft spy. It ought not be promoted. https://linuxnightly.com/install-visual-studio-code-on-manjaro/ | Oct 15 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxnightly.com | How to Install Visual Studio Code on Manjaro - Linux Nightly | Oct 15 07:48 | |
| techrights-news | How to Get Started with Shell Scripting in Linux https://www.linuxtechi.com/get-started-shell-scripting-linux/ | Oct 15 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechi.com | How to Get Started with Shell Scripting in Linux | Oct 15 07:48 | |
| techrights-news | "I started my automation journey when I adopted Gentoo Linux as my primary operating system in 2002. Twenty years later, automation is not yet a done deal." ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/10/kubernetes-solve-automation-challenges | Source: OpenSource.com | Oct 15 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can Kubernetes help solve automation challenges? | Opensource.com | Oct 15 07:49 | |
| techrights-news | `code here`➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Steam, Proton, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Games_Steam_Proton_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Games_Steam_Proton_and_More.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Games: Steam, Proton, and More | Oct 15 07:49 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Oct 15 07:49 | |
| techrights-news | "It is often important to know how many packages are installed on your computer. You may not know it, but there are many packages installed on your computer" ☛ https://vitux.com/how-to-list-installed-packages-on-ubuntu/ | Source: Vitux | Oct 15 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to List Installed Packages on Ubuntu 22.04 - VITUX | Oct 15 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | "The rolling release was coasting along with some smaller snapshots earlier in the week and the latest snapshot updated an enormous amount of packages" ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/10/14/plasma-frameworks-kernel-llvm-up-in-tw/ | Source: OpenSUSE | Oct 15 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | Plasma, Frameworks, Kernel, LLVM update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News | Oct 15 07:55 | |
| techrights-news | "In this guide, we are going to learn what is TCP Wrappers" ☛ https://ostechnix.com/restrict-access-linux-servers-using-tcp-wrappers/ | Source: OSTechNix | Oct 15 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Restrict Access To Linux Servers With TCP Wrappers - OSTechNix | Oct 15 07:56 | |
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| techrights-news | "The Topton FU02 is a fanless Mini PC featuring the Ryzen 3, 5, 7 mobile processors." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/topton-mini-pc-features-ryzen-4000u-series-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Oct 15 07:56 |
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| reptilian_thrills | c# in the free software directory (since 2009) https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/WikiAccess_Library | Oct 15 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | WikiAccess Library - Free Software Directory | Oct 15 07:57 | |
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| schestowitz[TR] | worse yet: | Oct 15 07:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | c#, windows only, github only | Oct 15 07:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with ooxml aupport only | Oct 15 07:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁█▆▇▂▆▇▂▆▃▅▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▃▅▃▄▅▃▃███▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 68.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▇█▁█▁▁█▁▂▁█▁██▁▁▁▁▁██▁▁▁▁▁▇██▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 99.76▕ swarm size (avg): 64.51 ⟲ | Oct 15 07:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | i just removed it from my fork | Oct 15 07:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wiki fork of fsd? | Oct 15 08:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | fork of the fsd | Oct 15 08:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | not wiki, cc licensed | Oct 15 08:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | written in gemtext | Oct 15 08:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if you kee a diff somewhere, | Oct 15 08:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then you have a list of tainted parts in FSD | Oct 15 08:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah, so | Oct 15 08:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | there are roughly 35,000 entries | Oct 15 08:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | including repeats | Oct 15 08:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | about 80% are either on github or belong to the coup | Oct 15 08:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | my removing those, you see whats still faif | Oct 15 08:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course ill include information about things they depend on | Oct 15 08:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | the license is a free copyleft license, unlike the fdl-- so im not using the data in the fsd except the urls | Oct 15 08:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | from the urls, i got thousands of webpages. | Oct 15 08:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | from the thousands of webpages i got thousands of webpage titles | Oct 15 08:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | from the thousands of titles i separated things by letter. harder to do that with urls. | Oct 15 08:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course its an imperfect system, it becomes increasingly easy to maintain. | Oct 15 08:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | about 7,000 entries divided by 26 letters (plus 0-9) | Oct 15 08:04 |
| techrights-news | "On October 5, authorities arrested Amiremad (Jadi) Mirmirani—a blogger and one of Iran’s leading technologists and digital rights defenders." ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/stop-persecution-iranian-authorities-must-immediately-release-technologists-and-0 | Source: EFF | Oct 15 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stop the Persecution: Iranian Authorities Must Immediately Release Technologists and Digital Rights Defenders | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 15 08:04 | |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont bother including java | Oct 15 08:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now you sound like herr doktor sixel | Oct 15 08:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | why not java? | Oct 15 08:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because.. float? | Oct 15 08:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *bloat | Oct 15 08:05 |
| techrights-news | "Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is one prominent exception." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/14/most-dems-silent-warren-slams-fed-pushing-us-toward-painful-recession | Source: Common Dreams | Oct 15 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | With Most Dems Silent, Warren Slams Fed for Pushing US Toward Painful Recession | Oct 15 08:06 | |
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| techrights-news | "At the 30-year mark, CounterPunch has veered insignificantly from its founding blueprints." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/a-year-of-milestones-for-counterpunch/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Year of Milestones for CounterPunch - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 08:10 | |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont think it needs java | Oct 15 08:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | someone can make a directory of java code that doesnt suck | Oct 15 08:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's not a very formal explanation | Oct 15 08:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | no its not | Oct 15 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | java "sucks" | Oct 15 08:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | i havent used a java program in like a decade | Oct 15 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's content-free name-calling | Oct 15 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | lots of programs that run the world use java | Oct 15 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I wrote some java also | Oct 15 08:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | name one | Oct 15 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | lots of middleware and "enterprise" stuff | Oct 15 08:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | and I wrote some java also <- is it in the fsd? | Oct 15 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | openfire | Oct 15 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | rssowl | Oct 15 08:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | ah, enterprise stuff. | Oct 15 08:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | openfire <- okay | Oct 15 08:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | JBoss Enterprise Application Platform | Oct 15 08:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | runs a TON of things | Oct 15 08:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | github.com/igniterealtime/Openfire <- openfire | Oct 15 08:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/ | Oct 15 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.igniterealtime.org | Ignite Realtime: Openfire Server | Oct 15 08:16 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | Downloads 32,169,480 | Oct 15 08:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.igniterealtime.org/downloads/ | Oct 15 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.igniterealtime.org | Ignite Realtime: Downloads | Oct 15 08:16 | |
| reptilian_thrills | RSSOwl does not work with Java 9, but it may still work with Java 8. | Oct 15 08:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they offer the jar files from their site | Oct 15 08:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | e.g. https://www.igniterealtime.org/downloadServlet?filename=whack/whack_2_0_1.jar | Oct 15 08:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | Downloads 32,169,480 <- youre missing the point, the fork doesnt list things that are developed on github. | Oct 15 08:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | rssowl is on github and sf, im comparing dates now. | Oct 15 08:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://discourse.igniterealtime.org/ | Oct 15 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-discourse.igniterealtime.org | Ignite Realtime Community Forums | Oct 15 08:18 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | theya re not so shithub-dependent | Oct 15 08:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | rssowl is developed on github | Oct 15 08:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 08:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | the only thing that gets by are mirrors (no prs) | Oct 15 08:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | true mirrors | Oct 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that typically predates microsoft | Oct 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oh, github seems to have added lots of JS | Oct 15 08:20 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | a lot off stuff does not work | Oct 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even with JS on | Oct 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | using the 'wrong' browser | Oct 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | such as falkon | Oct 15 08:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah ive been lenient on projects that last updated before 2018. | Oct 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's becoming another gitlab | Oct 15 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | accessibility no-go | Oct 15 08:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | RSSOwl does not work with Java 9, but it may still work with Java 8. | Oct 15 08:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | so it says-- idk | Oct 15 08:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | and I wrote some java also <- is it in the fsd? | Oct 15 08:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no | Oct 15 08:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | ^ if its not in the fsd then its not removed from the fork | Oct 15 08:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | so its moot | Oct 15 08:22 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | my siblings do a lot of java and c++ | Oct 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | java is very widely used | Oct 15 08:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | Red Hat JBoss Enterprise Application Platform <- | Oct 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but if you ran some apache sites, you won't reealise that | Oct 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or some gnu/linux desktop | Oct 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not much java there | Oct 15 08:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | so jboss is red hat? | Oct 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yes, duh | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they bought jboss ages ago | Oct 15 08:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | why would i consider ibm free? | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oracle does a lot of java | Oct 15 08:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm tanked the fsf. | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even prior to buying sun | Oct 15 08:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | they stabbed it to death like julius caesar | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ibm is everywhere | Oct 15 08:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont care | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | esp. former [sic] staff | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's the grandpa os us computing | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *of | Oct 15 08:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | they can all go to hell | Oct 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ibm is massive | Oct 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the former element | Oct 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they were like 3 times bigger than microsoft | Oct 15 08:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | figures, but | Oct 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | a decade ago their market cap was also bigger than microsoft's | Oct 15 08:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | its basically microsoft already owns github anyway | Oct 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ibm triggers a lot of anger | Oct 15 08:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | since microsoft is merely one of ibms avatars | Oct 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when it threw away 2 decades of good will | Oct 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in just 2 years | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *goodwill | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's not the FSF | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or GNU | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a lot of other stuff | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | centos is one of several | Oct 15 08:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | 2 decades of good will <- in just 2 years <- heres another theory | Oct 15 08:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | they spent 2 decades moving the chess pieces | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's true though | Oct 15 08:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | then made their move | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they used to be on our side with opendocument | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they were quick to adopt linus | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and hire many kernel devs | Oct 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and give some good things to linus | Oct 15 08:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm read the halloween docs | Oct 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the late 90s onwards | Oct 15 08:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | they must have implemented their own version of them | Oct 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | icbm used the community to get ahead faster | Oct 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and it worked | Oct 15 08:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | they used to be on our side <- maybe they were only infiltrating | Oct 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but now they outsource to shithub, work with gafam, and slander us | Oct 15 08:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | used the community <- bingo | Oct 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like community is some bunch of pedos | Oct 15 08:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | but now they outsource to shithub, work with gafam <- giafam | Oct 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | move over, rms, we'll take it from here | Oct 15 08:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | we'll take it from here <- s/it/gcc/ | Oct 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | giafam could aldo be i for intel | Oct 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not just gcc | Oct 15 08:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | gdb too | Oct 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> ICBM and Microsoft are attacking GNU via 'Linux' Foundation https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNU-Toolchain-Leaders-LF-IT | Oct 15 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNU Toolchain Leaders Support Moving Their Infrastructure Under The Linux Foundation - Phoronix | Oct 15 08:28 | |
| reptilian_thrills | systemd-gnud | Oct 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Facilitating a Hostile Takeover by Corporations (Privatising Free Software) http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/video-on-sourceware/ | Oct 15 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Facilitating a Hostile Takeover by Corporations (Privatising Free Software) | Techrights | Oct 15 08:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> Linux Foundation is not about Linux but about proprietary software companies swallowing everything, with the brand "Linux" used as a decoy http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation | Oct 15 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Oct 15 08:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> "Does this have any technical or logistic meaning for users or developers? Or is it just a principle thing?" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1352237-gnu-toolchain-leaders-support-moving-their-infrastructure-under-the-linux-foundation | Oct 15 08:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | pronounced guh-nude | Oct 15 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNU Toolchain Leaders Support Moving Their Infrastructure Under The Linux Foundation - Phoronix Forums | Oct 15 08:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> FSF says almost nothing this year. Paralysed. https://www.fsf.org/blogs/recent-blog-posts | Oct 15 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF blogs — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Oct 15 08:28 | |
| reptilian_thrills | of guh-nudie | Oct 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> Not even 12 months passed since ICBM expressed intent to buy Red Hat and as Bill Gates/Jeffrey Epstein scandal surfaced the attack on RMS and FSF began, led by many Red Hat staff http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ | Oct 15 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Oct 15 08:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> "7 work for Red Hat, owned by the FSF’s largest publicly known sponsor" http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ | Oct 15 08:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | or | Oct 15 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights | Oct 15 08:29 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> ICBM is a big pile of lies http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/ | Oct 15 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | Techrights | Oct 15 08:29 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> ICBM is also racist in 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/ | Oct 15 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat — Just Like Donald Trump — Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | Techrights | Oct 15 08:29 | |
| reptilian_thrills | gcc is the most important thing | Oct 15 08:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | what are you going to compile gnu with | Oct 15 08:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | clang? | Oct 15 08:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm wants gcc | Oct 15 08:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | and the gnu.fools are in on that | Oct 15 08:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm.fools | Oct 15 08:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | giant nazi undermining | Oct 15 08:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | the gnu.fools had a whole list of alternative gnu acronyms | Oct 15 08:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | oliva had a list of parodies | Oct 15 08:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | of their list | Oct 15 08:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | gnus now underminer | Oct 15 08:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | undermined | Oct 15 08:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | name an important java program that isnt github based | Oct 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sorry, was distracted in another channel | Oct 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | jboss | Oct 15 08:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | jboss is on github | Oct 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | primary repo? | Oct 15 08:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | idk where the "official" repo is | Oct 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | doubt it | Oct 15 08:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | im checking | Oct 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | jboss predates github | Oct 15 08:33 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): This week in KDE: QA pays off ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/This_week_in_KDE_QA_pays_off.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/This_week_in_KDE_QA_pays_off.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 08:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — This week in KDE: QA pays off | Oct 15 08:33 | |
| reptilian_thrills | doesnt mention mirrors https://github.com/jboss/ | Oct 15 08:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jboss · GitHub | Oct 15 08:33 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 08:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | jboss predates github <- so does python and php, which moved there | Oct 15 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers | Oct 15 08:34 | |
| reptilian_thrills | so do java and perl, which moved there | Oct 15 08:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | all of which are more important than jboss imo | Oct 15 08:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | the world would be okay without ibm | Oct 15 08:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | if anything it would be better off | Oct 15 08:34 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.php.net/downloads | Oct 15 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.php.net | PHP: Downloads | Oct 15 08:35 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.php.net/releases/ | Oct 15 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.php.net | PHP: Releases | Oct 15 08:35 | |
| reptilian_thrills | downloads are not where things are developed | Oct 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.php.net/manual/en/ | Oct 15 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.php.net | PHP: PHP Manual - Manual | Oct 15 08:36 | |
| reptilian_thrills | the problem is that microsoft has a monopoly on development | Oct 15 08:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://www.php.net/manual/en/ <- /me tries to run the manual, sets it to +x | Oct 15 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%253A//www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/health/flu-season-concern/index.html | Oct 15 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portal.mozz.us | Gemini Portal | Oct 15 08:37 | |
| reptilian_thrills | https://www.php.net/ Please carefully test this version and report any issues found in the bug reporting system. <- points to https://github.com/php/php-src/issues | Oct 15 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.php.net | PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor | Oct 15 08:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Issues · php/php-src · GitHub | Oct 15 08:37 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=81727 | Oct 15 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.php.net | PHP :: Sec Bug #81727 :: $_COOKIE names string replacement (. -> _): cookie integrity vulnerabilities | Oct 15 08:37 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL....1.32 MB on CNN just for the HTML. | Oct 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://bugs.php.net/81727 | Oct 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway, biab | Oct 15 08:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://github.com/php/php-src/pulls <- 239 Open 8,546 Closed | Oct 15 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pull requests · php/php-src · GitHub | Oct 15 08:38 | |
| reptilian_thrills | anyway, biab <- in other words youve got nothing | Oct 15 08:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean for all i know you have a conference call, but its invariably your response when someone has an endless supply of answers and you dont | Oct 15 08:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | i didnt come here to win, but to disseminate anyway | Oct 15 08:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont give a shit about winning | Oct 15 08:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | the house wins, because it makes the rules | Oct 15 08:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | but the rules are silly | Oct 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | don't want to get intoa afight with you | Oct 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but many projects have internal fights | Oct 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | iunc. kernel | Oct 15 08:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | microsoft lf kernel | Oct 15 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 2 weeks ago linus fought over mailing lists vs bugzilla | Oct 15 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the same is true in pythhon and apache | Oct 15 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the compromise is usually "both supported" | Oct 15 08:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | wheres the fight over github? | Oct 15 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so they have internal and external/ outsourced tracking | Oct 15 08:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | the compromise is usually "both supported" <- which pretty much inevitably means it moves to github | Oct 15 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so people who don't use microsoft can still contribute | Oct 15 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bbl | Oct 15 08:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah they can be second-class citizens | Oct 15 08:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | bbl <- have fun | Oct 15 08:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | they can be second-class citizens <- they wont have any idea whats happening to the project, but theyll be allowed to send patches | Oct 15 08:41 |
| techrights-news | </ul> | Oct 15 08:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | "both supported" <- divide and conquer | Oct 15 08:41 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft systemd, not "Ubuntu" https://thestack.technology/azure-kubernetes-outage-ubuntu-dns/ | Oct 15 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thestack.technology | Bad Ubuntu update causes global Azure Kubernetes outage | Oct 15 08:41 | |
| reptilian_thrills | no one ever got fired for moving to microsoft github | Oct 15 08:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | and i didnt migrate to free software just so ibm and microsoft could have a monopoly on it | Oct 15 08:42 |
| techrights-news | Nazification ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/the-nazification-of-american-society-and-the-scourge-of-violence/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Nazification of American Society and the Scourge of Violence - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 08:45 | |
| reptilian_thrills | but gcc is a keystone | Oct 15 08:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm goes after that they know the rest falls | Oct 15 08:45 |
| techrights-news | Criminalizing Journalism ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/criminalizing-journalism/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Criminalizing Journalism - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 08:45 | |
| reptilian_thrills | what are you going to compile gnu with? ibm gcc | Oct 15 08:45 |
| techrights-news | Asa Winstanley ☛ https://thedissenter.org/unauthorized-disclosure-asa-winstanley/ | Source: The Dissenter | Oct 15 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissenter.org | Unauthorized Disclosure: Guest Asa Winstanley | Oct 15 08:46 | |
| reptilian_thrills | watch them move it to github and use a cla | Oct 15 08:46 |
| techrights-news | "Going back many, many years, we’ve argued that paywalls are not a particularly sustainable model for most journalism enterprises." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/chicago-sun-times-kills-its-paywall-makes-its-content-free-for-everyone/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 15 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chicago Sun-Times Kills Its Paywall; Makes Its Content Free For Everyone | Techdirt | Oct 15 08:46 | |
| reptilian_thrills | gnu will resist, it wont matter | Oct 15 08:46 |
| techrights-news | Publisher Wiley Lets Libraries Offer eTextbooks Again… But Only For Nine Months ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/publisher-wiley-lets-libraries-offer-etextbooks-again-but-only-for-nine-months/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 15 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Publisher Wiley Lets Libraries Offer eTextbooks Again… But Only For Nine Months | Techdirt | Oct 15 08:46 | |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm already literally owns the gcc repo | Oct 15 08:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | gnu.fools will dilute the trademark so they can do what they want with that | Oct 15 08:47 |
| techrights-news | SLAPP ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/john-stossel-loses-his-pathetic-slapp-suit-against-facebook-and-fact-checkers/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 15 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-John Stossel Loses His Pathetic SLAPP Suit Against Facebook And Fact Checkers | Techdirt | Oct 15 08:47 | |
| reptilian_thrills | they have like 3 or more different hooks in gcc already | Oct 15 08:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | all they have to do is pull | Oct 15 08:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | slowly reel it in | Oct 15 08:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | already happening | Oct 15 08:48 |
| techrights-news | Sanders on monopolies. Bailout Biden won't do anything, he openly mocked Sanders to signal his blind loyalty to the plutocrats. ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/14/sanders-says-biden-admin-must-reject-merger-kroger-and-albertsons | Source: Common Dreams | Oct 15 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Says Biden Admin 'Must Reject' Merger of Kroger and Albertsons | Oct 15 08:48 | |
| reptilian_thrills | fsf has their thumb in their arse | Oct 15 08:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | scam artists | Oct 15 08:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | free sweatshop foundation | Oct 15 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "Thursday’s final hearing of the January 6 committee is a segue to the criminal case that federal prosecutors are piecing together" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/14/criminal-case-against-donald-j-trump-has-been-established-will-garland-act | Source: Common Dreams | Oct 15 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Criminal Case Against Donald J. Trump Has Been Established, But Will the Garland Act? | Robert Reich | Oct 15 08:49 | |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: DIY, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Open_Hardware_DIY_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Open_Hardware_DIY_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Open Hardware: DIY, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino | Oct 15 08:49 | |
| reptilian_thrills | work for ibm for free! give us money to promote the open source scam (but call it "free software") | Oct 15 08:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | buy a tshirt so ibm can exploit free labour | Oct 15 08:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> <techrights-news> FSF says almost nothing this year. Paralysed. https://www.fsf.org/blogs/recent-blog-posts | Oct 15 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF blogs — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Oct 15 08:51 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | post-trauma | Oct 15 08:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | oh cmon | Oct 15 08:52 |
| techrights-news | "We’re sharing the fourth evaluation report on projects in our Gender Balance in Computing research programme today" ☛ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-sense-of-belonging/ | Source: Raspberry Pi | Oct 15 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Girls' sense of belonging in the Computing classroom: Study results - Raspberry Pi | Oct 15 08:52 | |
| reptilian_thrills | rms maybe-- all of them? | Oct 15 08:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | ridiculous | Oct 15 08:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | "sorry ukraine, the entire army has ptsd" | Oct 15 08:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | what are the odds | Oct 15 08:52 |
| techrights-news | FBI ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/hundreds-of-fbi-employees-are-simply-walking-away-from-misconduct-charges/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 15 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hundreds Of FBI Employees Are Simply Walking Away From Misconduct Charges | Techdirt | Oct 15 08:53 | |
| techrights-news | "The Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department has been problematic pretty much ever since its inception." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/los-angeles-sheriffs-department-goes-completely-rogue-blocks-inspector-generals-access-to-files-facilities/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 15 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department Goes Completely Rogue, Blocks Inspector General’s Access To Files, Facilities | Techdirt | Oct 15 08:53 | |
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| schestowitz[TR] | rms is the chief | Oct 15 08:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | i suppose post-trauma is why in early 2022 they were caving to demands johnua gay talked about the same week | Oct 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | demoralised chief, deemoralised operations | Oct 15 08:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | rms is the chief <- not since 2011/2014 | Oct 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he is still the echief | Oct 15 08:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | he lets duix run the show now | Oct 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | directly and indirectly | Oct 15 08:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | in name only | Oct 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so who is the chief then? | Oct 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | tell me | Oct 15 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | The January 6th committee is going to accomplish basically, a hell of a lot of nothing. | Oct 15 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | Joe Biden has done such an awful job as president that it's all anyone cares about right now. | Oct 15 08:56 |
| techrights-news | Seattle Times, which took bribes from Famous Criminal Bill Gates ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/13/seattle-times-brands-complain-over-senate-campaign-ad-that-is-clearly-protected-speech/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 15 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Seattle Times, Brands Complain Over Senate Campaign Ad That Is Clearly Protected Speech | Techdirt | Oct 15 08:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Every day he figures out something to make it even worse. | Oct 15 08:56 |
| techrights-news | Masnick's site, after bagging Koch money, still an apologist for US monopolists at times. Very disappointing. ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/in-eu-and-us-big-telecom-desperately-wants-big-tech-to-pay-it-billions-of-dollars-for-no-coherent-reason/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 15 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In EU And US, Big Telecom Desperately Wants Big Tech To Pay It Billions Of Dollars For No Coherent Reason | Techdirt | Oct 15 08:56 | |
| reptilian_thrills | so who is the chief then? <- there isnt one | Oct 15 08:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | its not that i dont think rms has the right | Oct 15 08:58 |
| techrights-news | Wealth Tax ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/a-wealth-tax-on-the-0-25-percent-could-fund-bidens-entire-student-debt-plan/ | Source: TruthOut | Oct 15 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | A Wealth Tax on the 0.25 Percent Could Fund Biden’s Entire Student Debt Plan | Oct 15 08:59 | |
| reptilian_thrills | its that 1. he doesnt use his authority 2. they clearly do not recognise it | Oct 15 08:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | i cant do anything about either of those | Oct 15 08:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | but im not going to pretend hes in power, he clearly is not | Oct 15 08:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | duix runs gnu | Oct 15 09:00 |
| techrights-news | Most Americans Back Reforms to Make Voting Easier ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/most-americans-back-reforms-to-make-voting-easier-poll-shows/ | Source: TruthOut | Oct 15 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Most Americans Back Reforms to Make Voting Easier, Poll Shows | Oct 15 09:00 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: █▁██▁▄█▅██▂▁▂█▁▁▃▂▃▃▃▂▂▅▄▁▁▄▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 128.06 ▕ IPFS upstream: ████▁▁███▁▁▂█▅█▅█▁▆▁▁▇▇▁█▁▁█▄▆▇█▁ avg(k/sec) 72.21▕ swarm size (avg): 35.36 ⟲ | Oct 15 09:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | you may not see it, thats not my problem | Oct 15 09:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | duix? | Oct 15 09:00 |
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| reptilian_thrills | its not pronounced "deex" | Oct 15 09:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | this is a whole lot easier than "mac asay" | Oct 15 09:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | i knew of matt asay before that started | Oct 15 09:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | and i still wasnt sure you meant him | Oct 15 09:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | or what he had to do with macs | Oct 15 09:01 |
| techrights-news | Marijuana: Biden's election strategy is, vote Dems because "smoke weed every day" (while the country collapses) ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/bidens-marijuana-pardons-are-a-seismic-shift/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden’s Marijuana Pardons are a Seismic Shift - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 09:02 | |
| techrights-news | "And the storyline for The US and the Holocaust can be succinctly summed up this way..." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/259488/ | Source: Counter Punch http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Oct 15 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-We, the People Did Next To Nothing - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 09:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Oct 15 09:05 | |
| techrights-news | Can the Fed Control Inflation With Just Rate Hikes? ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/can-the-fed-control-inflation-with-just-rate-hikes/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can the Fed Control Inflation With Just Rate Hikes? - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 09:05 | |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> so who is the chief then <- who is the chief of the beothuk indians? | Oct 15 09:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | fun fact, the fsf had (may even still have) more members than the beothuk tribe had | Oct 15 09:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-free-software-foundation-reveals-how-rms-was-re-elected-and-its-future/ | Oct 15 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Free Software Foundation reveals how RMS was re-elected and its future | ZDNET | Oct 15 09:06 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | SJVN | Oct 15 09:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anti-FSF | Oct 15 09:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | paid by LF | Oct 15 09:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | fsf is anti-fsf | Oct 15 09:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | LF is helping the coup | Oct 15 09:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-free-software-foundation-reveals-how-rms-was-re-elected-and-its-future/ <- is this new? | Oct 15 09:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | LF is helping the coup <- lf is open source | Oct 15 09:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | open source is the bloody coup | Oct 15 09:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | The Coup is part of the coup | Oct 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.fsf.org/news/statement-of-fsf-board-on-election-of-richard-stallman | Oct 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "We decided to bring RMS back because we missed his wisdom. His historical, legal and technical acumen on free software is unrivaled. He has a deep sensitivity to the ways that technologies can contribute to both the enhancement and the diminution of basic human rights. His global network of connections is invaluable. He remains the most articulate philosopher and an unquestionably dedicated advocate of freedom in computing. | Oct 15 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Statement of FSF board on election of Richard Stallman — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Oct 15 09:07 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | " | Oct 15 09:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | the coup is open source | Oct 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | RMS is in charge | Oct 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://octave.discourse.group/t/rms-back-on-the-fsf-board/974 | Oct 15 09:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | RMS is in charge <- of what | Oct 15 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-octave.discourse.group | RMS back on the FSF board - community - GNU Octave | Oct 15 09:07 | |
| reptilian_thrills | on-the-fsf-board <- i believe mjg can still vote on the board | Oct 15 09:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | this is what i thought i heard, i could be mistaken | Oct 15 09:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no | Oct 15 09:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | coup plotters ousted | Oct 15 09:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | ive been trying to | Oct 15 09:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and walsh left | Oct 15 09:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | "ousted" | Oct 15 09:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i know someone who wet her [sic] | Oct 15 09:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | ive been trying to figure out the "hidden board" for years | Oct 15 09:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mattl is out | Oct 15 09:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | i know someone who wet her <- wet-ever | Oct 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | many who plotted to remove the founder | Oct 15 09:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | many who plotted to remove the founder <- still getting their wishlist checked off in 2022 | Oct 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now she is in CC | Oct 15 09:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | she was already in cc | Oct 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which is part of the coup | Oct 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | along with total weirdoes | Oct 15 09:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | yes, cc is part of the coup | Oct 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | who also attack SF | Oct 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | CC turned its back on its inception | Oct 15 09:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | along with total weirdoes <- not sure which groups youre being prudish about here | Oct 15 09:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | CC turned its back on its inception <- cc has been pretty useless most of its existence, like osi. | Oct 15 09:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and is not just sitting there doing notjing | Oct 15 09:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sort of like eff and mozilla | Oct 15 09:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | eff mozilla. | Oct 15 09:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | pandering to oligarchs is no recipe for success | Oct 15 09:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | eff eff too | Oct 15 09:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they just use you temporarily and toss you away | Oct 15 09:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | is no recipe for success <- oh it is, unless your real job is to fight the status quo | Oct 15 09:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | they just use you temporarily and toss you away <- yep | Oct 15 09:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like spamnil | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when tfir was still muktware | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or themusk | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | themut | Oct 15 09:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-free-software-foundation-reveals-how-rms-was-re-elected-and-its-future/ <- is this new? | Oct 15 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Free Software Foundation reveals how RMS was re-elected and its future | ZDNET | Oct 15 09:11 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | he did get some traffic | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not it's like 95% clickfraud | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and pretending | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and many people loathe him | Oct 15 09:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | i disliked sjvn when you were still defending him | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i saw jim salter at ars | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he too sort of attacked rms | Oct 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for conde nast | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which employed "drpizza" | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the penetration tester of microsoft | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | jim salter was discarded too | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | btw | Oct 15 09:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | rofll | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://arstechnica.com/author/jimsalter/ | Oct 15 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Jim Salter | Ars Technica | Oct 15 09:12 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | no article in 12 months | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they must have canned him | Oct 15 09:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | only one Salt in the anti-rms letter fwiw | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe he did not lie enoughj | Oct 15 09:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe he was busy when they were passing it around | Oct 15 09:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | last article 11/11 last year | Oct 15 09:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "JIM SALTER / | Oct 15 09:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | FORMER TECHNOLOGY REPORTER" | Oct 15 09:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | FORMER | Oct 15 09:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he did not last long | Oct 15 09:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | the beothuk indians dont have a chief because they no longer exist | Oct 15 09:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | no tribe, no chief | Oct 15 09:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | if the gnu project is fighting they are VERY stealthy | Oct 15 09:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | practically invisible | Oct 15 09:14 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: I was never a voting member in that sense | Oct 15 09:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | mjg59_ ah, ok | Oct 15 09:14 |
| mjg59_ | Leaving did not result in me having any voting rights | Oct 15 09:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | there does seem to be a hidden board though | Oct 15 09:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | so many people who were there who can vote | Oct 15 09:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | but idk much about it | Oct 15 09:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | its entirely possible ive been misled, im not sure how id go about fixing that | Oct 15 09:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | plus if it was deliberate thats a hoot because it opens up so many new possibilities :) | Oct 15 09:15 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D729.jpg | Oct 15 09:15 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D384.jpg | Oct 15 09:16 |
| techrights-news | "I love Smol Pub, I really do; it's simple and clean and friendly and has great users. But over time I've decided I'd rather just keep my gemlog on my capsule. So I'm moving over there." gemini://november.smol.pub/moving | Oct 15 09:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | but honestly getting a handle on wtf the fsf doing is like trying to grasp a fart | Oct 15 09:16 |
| techrights-news | "social media improvement ideas" gemini://sol.cities.yesterweb.org/stream.gmi | Oct 15 09:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | its a power vacuum dressed up as an organisation | Oct 15 09:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | much like iraq was after saddam was captured | Oct 15 09:17 |
| techrights-news | How I became a Contemplative Hacker gemini://khanti.smol.pub/how-i-became | Oct 15 09:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | dressed up as a country | Oct 15 09:18 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 09:20 |
| techrights-news | crypto [sic] currency [sic] ☛ https://fair.org/home/ahmad-abuznaid-on-israeli-human-rights-crackdown-sohale-mortazavi-on-cryptocurrency/ | Source: FAIR | Oct 15 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Ahmad Abuznaid on Israeli Human Rights Crackdown, Sohale Mortazavi on Cryptocurrency - FAIR | Oct 15 09:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Janine Jackson interviewed Jacobin‘s John Logan about Amazon and Starbucks organizing for the October 7, 2022, episode of CounterSpin." ☛ https://fair.org/home/people-are-taking-inspiration-from-union-victories-at-amazon-and-starbucks/ | Source: FAIR | Oct 15 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | 'People Are Taking Inspiration From Union Victories at Amazon and Starbucks' - FAIR | Oct 15 09:21 | |
| reptilian_thrills | true good news never comes out of there anymore | Oct 15 09:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | just marketing and rule changes which imo are negative on the whole | Oct 15 09:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | their anti-whistleblower policy isnt a cure, its a symptom | Oct 15 09:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | well, i tried not to give zdnet any clicks but i guess if i want to know, i have little choice | Oct 15 09:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | "Some board members, besides Knauth, are planning to leave the FSF board." <- that certainly dates it a bit | Oct 15 09:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | The GNU Project itself, while still organizationally tied to the FSF, is no longer largely financially supported by the FSF. Instead, its work is \"done mainly by volunteers and the Foundation mostly promotes free/libre software in other ways. The GCC Steering Committee has removed RMS from its membership. | Oct 15 09:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm gcc | Oct 15 09:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | and ibm.fools | Oct 15 09:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | the FSF also noted that the charity rating organization Charity Navigator recently gave the FSF its eighth consecutive four-star rating <- meaningless imo | Oct 15 09:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | the rating is based on how they spend their money | Oct 15 09:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | not where it comes from | Oct 15 09:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | as long as they spend it on free software theyre going to have a good rating | Oct 15 09:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | so no buying a big table covered in cocaine, not that they had any plans to | Oct 15 09:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | ive seen large orgs buy luxurious offices for their leaders etc | Oct 15 09:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | they cant live there but they can live it up while theyre at work | Oct 15 09:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | fsf doesnt do that, so they get a good rating | Oct 15 09:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | meanwhile they get taken over by ibm, and it doesnt change the rating | Oct 15 09:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | charity navigator just goes in circles | Oct 15 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | chasting its tail | Oct 15 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | or chasing. or cheating. or typing, or something | Oct 15 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | As for Stallman? He's remained quiet since rejoining the FSF board. <- thats true | Oct 15 09:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | How long he'll continue to keep a low profile remains to be seen. <- permanently | Oct 15 09:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | sjvn should kill himself | Oct 15 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | My kosher dills are coming along nicely. | Oct 15 09:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | hes that good of a journalist | Oct 15 09:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | i suppose if he were a doctor people would find organs he kept as souveneirs | Oct 15 09:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | if he were a chef he would be the sort that urinates in the food (taken from a new story) | Oct 15 09:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | if he knew anything about computers, he would work for ibm. | Oct 15 09:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | who are we kidding, he does work for ibm. | Oct 15 09:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | Openfire (previously known as Wildfire, and Jive Messenger) is an instant messaging (IM) and groupchat server for the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) <- oh great | Oct 15 09:40 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Oct 15 09:40 | |
| reptilian_thrills | so eventually theyll do to xmpp what the industry did to html | Oct 15 09:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | The project lead is Dave Cridland. | Oct 15 09:41 |
| techrights-news | "She's the decisive vote we need to close the digital divide, lower the cost of broadband, and hold companies like Comcast and AT&T accountable." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/14/240-groups-push-senate-defy-telecom-attacks-and-confirm-biden-fcc-pick | Source: Common Dreams | Oct 15 09:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 240+ Groups Push Senate to Defy Telecom Attacks and Confirm Biden FCC Pick | Oct 15 09:42 | |
| reptilian_thrills | anyway, removing java is an experiment | Oct 15 09:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | its not like java couldnt simply be put back in | Oct 15 09:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | not that i have any intention of doing so | Oct 15 09:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | im tempted to remove perl and python, but that raises an important question | Oct 15 09:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | if i remove those, what would be left? | Oct 15 09:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | just shell scripts? | Oct 15 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | right | Oct 15 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but that reminded me of herr sixel | Oct 15 09:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | well, he actually helped inspire this fork | Oct 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | where criteria are informal | Oct 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and based on ggut feelings | Oct 15 09:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | its mostly based on strict criteria | Oct 15 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you might end up with a bsd-based alpine | Oct 15 09:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | he went overboard on gut feelings | Oct 15 09:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | you might end up with a bsd-based alpine <- i can think of worse things. | Oct 15 09:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | dr sixel is nuts and is trying to build with software what hitler wanted to build with politics and war | Oct 15 09:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | but id be thrilled if baph os becomes really great software | Oct 15 09:47 |
| *scientes13 (~c62ebe51@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 15 09:47 | |
| reptilian_thrills | even though he will never release any of it | Oct 15 09:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | its a pure rhetorical device for him. this project actually does more than that | Oct 15 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | granted-- not a lot! | Oct 15 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | i had a gihub radar and nothing moved off github | Oct 15 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | then i build a more elaborate radar from the gnu project | Oct 15 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | this is just a radar scaled up from hundreds to tens of thousands | Oct 15 09:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that radar is still there | Oct 15 09:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | mostly it lets me watch github | Oct 15 09:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | that radar is still there <- obsolete | Oct 15 09:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | mine is better | Oct 15 09:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the way I see the issue is like this | Oct 15 09:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | each day we have x new projects | Oct 15 09:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and we have y existing projects | Oct 15 09:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i spent hours in vain, | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | trying tio find ANY journalism on git market share | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or change control systemd in general | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in vain! | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | let's say y stays as is | Oct 15 09:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | mmhmm | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and among y, many are abandoned | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no development anymore | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so we need to jusge x | Oct 15 09:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but nobody does the work | Oct 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no journalism | Oct 15 09:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | journalists are shills | Oct 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yes, they are now | Oct 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like sjvn | Oct 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he used to do very good work | Oct 15 09:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | meh | Oct 15 09:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | he worked for open source always | Oct 15 09:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to be fair to mjg59_ I greatly respected his work on cpi | Oct 15 09:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and how he lashed out at companis that stood in his way | Oct 15 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont know his work on cpi | Oct 15 09:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *aacpi | Oct 15 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | oh acpi | Oct 15 09:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | back then many laptops stiill had issues | Oct 15 09:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to the point where I rejected laptopsa | Oct 15 09:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and chose desktops | Oct 15 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont know what im talking about here, thats as good a disclaimer as any | Oct 15 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | but based on shuttleworths description of acpi | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | thre was a site, | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | linuxlaptops iirc | Oct 15 09:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | his work on acpi and his work on uefi arent that different | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or linux on laptops | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with howtos to help get them working | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nowadaysd almost any laptop picks up a gnu/linux diustro ok | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | inc. wifi | Oct 15 09:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | (for better or worse) <- and for consistency it should be said for worse | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no, they are different | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | torvalds too was ok with acpi | Oct 15 09:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not 'secure boot' | Oct 15 09:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | torvalds is useless | Oct 15 09:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | microsoft'\s LP openly mocked ;'secure boot' | Oct 15 09:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you quopted him | Oct 15 09:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I hadn't noticed before you did so | Oct 15 09:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | i take mjg more seriously than torvalds | Oct 15 09:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | torvalds gave a talk a few weeks back | Oct 15 09:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | ill listen to mjgs opinions-- i dont trust him, ill generally take ariadne or leah over anything he says | Oct 15 09:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he changes his positions tro suit the employer | Oct 15 09:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | if torvalds tries to tell me anything (he wont) ill just tell him to go the fuck home | Oct 15 09:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | his opinions are meaningless | Oct 15 09:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | hes a puppet at this point, ill ask him which laundry soap to use sure | Oct 15 09:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont even care what he thinks about git | Oct 15 09:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont care about git at all | Oct 15 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | git will be passe | Oct 15 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but not sure when | Oct 15 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and what will replace it | Oct 15 09:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | network effects | Oct 15 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | seems gitlab and github both do damage | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they 'extend' git | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then people start to associate git with bloated web uis | Oct 15 09:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre silos | Oct 15 09:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre doing to git what facebook did to websites | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | right | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | good analogy | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wordpress does the same | Oct 15 09:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah, fucking wordpress | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wordpress even uses some FB crap | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like ractJS iirc | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *react.js | Oct 15 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this was mentioned earlier in the context of editors | Oct 15 09:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I have many good editors | Oct 15 09:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I don't need some JS shit running ina canvass | Oct 15 09:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's heavy, not secure, not reliable | Oct 15 09:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | easy to lose your work | Oct 15 09:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | last year rianne and I passed all our text ediing to an external file server | Oct 15 09:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | harder to lose data this way | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and there are 3 layers of failsafe | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | on the web, none | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | browser crashes, work lost | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if wordpress did auto-save, maybe | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but that led to other issues | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like the other month I overrode a previous post of mine | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | after machine crash | Oct 15 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wordpress added the version control and auto0-save fuctnionality when I was still involved in the project | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but that causes other issues | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like in techrights, | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we have about 34k posts | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but the db holds about 170k posts | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because of versions | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so backup dumps become a lot bigger | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I can remove those "drafts" | Oct 15 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but I want drafts | Oct 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just noit inm a fucking database!!! | Oct 15 10:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | sure, why not | Oct 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and not one that every 24 hours gets dumped in full | Oct 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | causing temporary site access issues | Oct 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | due to the database locking up for data integrity | Oct 15 10:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the term for this is "over-engineering" | Oct 15 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | yep | Oct 15 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | phbs loves it | Oct 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they don't get it | Oct 15 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | they get to brag how x as y and z | Oct 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they want to keep people "busy" | Oct 15 10:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so they keep "improving" things that already work | Oct 15 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | and then x, which is needed, becomes the red-headed stepchild to shiny unnecessary bullsht | Oct 15 10:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | yep | Oct 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's why many sites get so bloated | Oct 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and have new bugs | Oct 15 10:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | software too | Oct 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sites are software | Oct 15 10:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | yep | Oct 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they used to be not software | Oct 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but now they are code | Oct 15 10:04 |
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| reptilian_thrills | but they get bloated faster | Oct 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | red hat sites are increasingly a pile of JS | Oct 15 10:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they deny you access | Oct 15 10:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even if you run the JS using the 'wrong' browser | Oct 15 10:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <DaemonFC> LOL....1.32 MB on CNN just for the HTML. | Oct 15 10:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 1.32MB | Oct 15 10:05 |
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| reptilian_thrills | yeah once you start mediating, youll start deciding which browsers are worth your time to support | Oct 15 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I could upload a 10,000x10,000 pixel JPEG at 1.32MB | Oct 15 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with coarse wavelets | Oct 15 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or 123 small but decent webp photos | Oct 15 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yesterday I advocated falkon again | Oct 15 10:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | dfc does not use it maybe because ./... qt | Oct 15 10:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he seems to go for the gnome things | Oct 15 10:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | youre out of your falkon mind | Oct 15 10:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | ^ had to be said | Oct 15 10:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I've used it since the start | Oct 15 10:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when it was "rekonq" | Oct 15 10:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | more than ten years ago | Oct 15 10:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | iirc, dfc recommended it to me | Oct 15 10:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | heh | Oct 15 10:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | hes obviously moved on | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because I used an unmaintained predecessor | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oh, wait | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | konqueror (still around | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | rekonq | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | qupzilla | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | falkon | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and the last is mostly maintained by one person | Oct 15 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | who started it as an experiment of sorts | Oct 15 10:08 |
| techrights-news | Teachers and parents united in demanding changes ☛ https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/14/teachers-and-parents-united-to-demand-changes-in-education | Source: Telex (Hungary) | Oct 15 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Teachers and parents united in demanding changes in education | Oct 15 10:09 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | they want to TEACH | Oct 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's a threat to fideath, MinceR | Oct 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like real education in the US | Oct 15 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not sure it happens herew | Oct 15 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe it does, but I've not noticed | Oct 15 10:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | like real education in the US <- not a very big threat | Oct 15 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for 2 decades they said gcqhe levels and standards were lowered | Oct 15 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I need to see a 2022 CS syllabus | Oct 15 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | surely I can find onje online | Oct 15 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if they have courses on "clown", then we're f*ed | Oct 15 10:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | the clown has already taken over | Oct 15 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no | Oct 15 10:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | they dont have to teach clown, they teach github | Oct 15 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it was there all along | Oct 15 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | :-) | Oct 15 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not sure they teach that | Oct 15 10:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | gitclown | Oct 15 10:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | clownhub | Oct 15 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe some worse colleges do | Oct 15 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | need to check | Oct 15 10:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | oh they teach github | Oct 15 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which uni? | Oct 15 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I'm checking now | Oct 15 10:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | its not a course, its a material. | Oct 15 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | on my disks I have copies of the 2000 and later syllabi | Oct 15 10:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | they teach github in the courses | Oct 15 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | inc. lecture notes | Oct 15 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yes, but who is the they? | Oct 15 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mit? | Oct 15 10:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | it happens informally | Oct 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wentworth? | Oct 15 10:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | youll see | Oct 15 10:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | im sure youll find it all over the place | Oct 15 10:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | i feel pretty confident i could walk into just about any uni right now | Oct 15 10:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | find them using github in courses | Oct 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://studentnet.cs.manchester.ac.uk/ugt/syllabus.php | Oct 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | php | Oct 15 10:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | good | Oct 15 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-studentnet.cs.manchester.ac.uk | Current UG Study & Curriculum (School of Computer Science - The University of Manchester) | Oct 15 10:14 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | looks good | Oct 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the titles at least | Oct 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they teach the concepts | Oct 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ""Introduction to AI | Oct 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | followed by "Machine Learning" | Oct 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | They used to have just "Machine Learning" | Oct 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they had to add "HEY HI" | Oct 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "Knowledge-based AI" | Oct 15 10:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | HEY HI!!! | Oct 15 10:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "Introduction to Visual Computing" | Oct 15 10:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://my.manchester.ac.uk/uPortal/p/course-unit-info.ctf1/max/render.uP?pP_action=viewCUDetails&pP_location=/CourseUnitPublishing/CourseUnitDataFiles/COMP/001893COMP271122022-08-161V12.xml | Oct 15 10:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for manchester css the syllabus still looks solid, overall | Oct 15 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | in communist russia, github teaches manchester uni | Oct 15 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://github.com/UoMCS/COMP101 | Oct 15 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - UoMCS/COMP101: Lab manual and exercises for UoM CS101 | Oct 15 10:17 | |
| reptilian_thrills | this is what i mean, its everywhere | Oct 15 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | 09:14 <reptilian_thrills> it happens informally | Oct 15 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | 09:13 <reptilian_thrills> its not a course, its a material | Oct 15 10:17 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 10:20 |
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| reptilian_thrills | https://github.com/UoMCS/softeng Software engineering at the University of Manchester https://software-eng.netlify.app/ | Oct 15 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - UoMCS/softeng: Software engineering at the University of Manchester https://software-eng.netlify.app/ | Oct 15 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-software-eng.netlify.app | Welcome | Software engineering | Oct 15 10:21 | |
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| reptilian_thrills | https://github.com/UoMCS/php-png Library for manipulating PNG files in PHP | Oct 15 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - UoMCS/php-png: Library for manipulating PNG files in PHP | Oct 15 10:25 | |
| reptilian_thrills | here you want to look at the syllabus? you can visualise it | Oct 15 10:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://github.com/UoMCS/syllabus-visualisation | Oct 15 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - UoMCS/syllabus-visualisation: Syllabus Visualisation | Oct 15 10:26 | |
| reptilian_thrills | /me visualises microsoft controlling the compsci dept | Oct 15 10:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://github.com/UoMCS/komodo Komodo debugger used in engineering laboratories | Oct 15 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - UoMCS/komodo: Komodo debugger used in engineering laboratories | Oct 15 10:27 | |
| reptilian_thrills | even their mips stuff is on github (maybe their most popular repo on gh) | Oct 15 10:27 |
| *schestowitz[TR] back | Oct 15 10:27 | |
| reptilian_thrills | github has taken over the school | Oct 15 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | granted im not picking on manchester-- i think its like this in general | Oct 15 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | i wish it wasnt | Oct 15 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | the term "monopoly" tends to imply... basically this | Oct 15 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | github is nearly a monopoly. its bad. | Oct 15 10:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | its not QUITE a monopoly, but its enough of one to predict stuff like this | Oct 15 10:29 |
| techrights-news | "General Mills hiked its prices five times since June of 2021 alone, and the company saw its net earnings climb 31 percent to$820 million" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/raise-corporate-taxes-not-interest-rates/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raise Corporate Taxes, Not Interest Rates - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 10:29 | |
| techrights-news | <li> | Oct 15 10:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | for uom to stand against github, they would have to care more about software freedom than the gnu project | Oct 15 10:30 |
| techrights-news | "There is a huge difference between those at the top of the .1%–people such as Musk, Bezos, and Gates–and those at the entry level." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/the-wealth-of-the-u-s-wealthiest-one-tenth-of-one-percent/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wealth of the U.S. Wealthiest One-Tenth of One Percent - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 10:30 | |
| reptilian_thrills | thats slightly tongue in cheek (but mostly true) | Oct 15 10:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | shithub is subsidised at a loss | Oct 15 10:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's why many still use that | Oct 15 10:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they also bribe with cpu cycles | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | github "actions" | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | meanwhile they need an income source | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 18k laid off | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just at Microsoft | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | frieddman was canned | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they put azure person in charge | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they try to figure out how to 'monetise' it | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | gitlab also | Oct 15 10:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they wanted to cut costs | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | by removing 'inactive' projects | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i.e. projects that are still useful but don't have commit activity on them | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | turns out 'free' hosting is not a business plan | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a market share geab plan | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | free sofwtare does not have this issue | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | free software does not mean free hosting | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it means, | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | take this code | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | pass it on | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | deploy it | Oct 15 10:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | send back patches etc. | Oct 15 10:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but you are on your own | Oct 15 10:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 'clown' computing is not cheap | Oct 15 10:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's bait | Oct 15 10:34 |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Friday, October 14, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/10/15/irc-log-141022/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/15/irc-log-141022/ | Oct 15 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, October 14, 2022 | Techrights | Oct 15 10:34 | |
| reptilian_thrills | while the world stops caring about software freedom, the fsf does | Oct 15 10:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | nothing | Oct 15 10:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yeah | Oct 15 10:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i did a post about this. | Oct 15 10:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hang on | Oct 15 10:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | shithub is subsidised at a loss <- expenditures | Oct 15 10:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/free-speech-dying/ | Oct 15 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Speech is Becoming as Scarce as Independent Journalism (Even at the FSF) | Techrights | Oct 15 10:35 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | not this one | Oct 15 10:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there was another one.. | Oct 15 10:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | 18k laid off <- the nazi camps laid off millions | Oct 15 10:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | they still had plenty of free workers | Oct 15 10:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | they put azure person in charge <- i swear it was mentioned in the halloween documents | Oct 15 10:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | "one 'blue sky' option..." | Oct 15 10:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | they try to figure out how to 'monetise' it <- this is your circular argument, you dont get it | Oct 15 10:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | github is a weapon, its not a product | Oct 15 10:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | if a guy goes into a bank with a gun, it doesnt matter how much money they give him | Oct 15 10:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | the gun is not for sale | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | meanwhile at github | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | dmaage control | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | : | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:32] <schestowitz> your iphone hangs up the network whgen idle | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:32] <Source> Yeah something like that | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:32] <schestowitz> if that happens assume anything posted through irc might not go through | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:33] <Source> Anyways I'm just saying don't assume that I am right about him resisting arrest | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:33] <Source> That is just an opinion and not anything that should be published | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:33] <schestowitz> i assume nothing, at least when publishing | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:33] <schestowitz> i check carefully | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:33] <Source> I am not committing defamation by saying that there's usually a correlation between a long time in jail and posting bail | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:33] <Source> And resisting arrest | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:34] <Source> https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1240022284489777153?s=20 | Oct 15 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@natfriedman: @epowell101 Yes, a return to the belief in the importance of technocratic excellence. | Oct 15 10:37 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:34] <Source> This is interesting | Oct 15 10:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:34] <Source> "Technocrat" | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:34] <Source> you mean like the one percent? [03:35] <Source> The slumlords nat? | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> "king of github" | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> xamarin | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> ximian | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> microsoft.. CEO | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> lol | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> playing "low level" | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> while talking about his 'homy' satya in twitter a day or so before "thank you github" | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> he was sacked I reckon | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> on amicable terms | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:36] <schestowitz> to avoid panic at the company | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:37] <Source> "Mind over matter" | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:37] <Source> Poor victim [03:39] <Source> I wish i knew more. | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <schestowitz> lol | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <schestowitz> it's almost 4sam here | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <Source> I think Alex might have already been on his last days at github | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <schestowitz> I need sleep soon | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <Source> He's been working on documentation | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <Source> Yeah sure go to sleep thanks for taking down my picture because I really want you to do that and it's important | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <schestowitz> yes, will do that | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:40] <Source> I know it's public but the warrant is much better evidence[03:40] <schestowitz> in the morning | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:41] <Source> Thank you good night | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [03:41] <schestowitz> gn | Oct 15 10:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | lots going on at github, reptilian_thrills | Oct 15 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but the media is MIA | Oct 15 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | intentionally | Oct 15 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | noticed how "copilot" isn't talked much about this year? | Oct 15 10:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | lots going on at github <- you know where a lot isnt going on? | Oct 15 10:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | free software | Oct 15 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and now it's just OSI shill talking about "HEY HI"? | Oct 15 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | while Microsoft pays for the placements? | Oct 15 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | under the name "github"? | Oct 15 10:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | noticed how "copilot" isn't talked much about this year? <- i havent kept up on this | Oct 15 10:39 |
| mjg59_ | Copilot's kind of talked about a lot this year? | Oct 15 10:39 |
| mjg59_ | It GAed earlier this year | Oct 15 10:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | ah here comes the fact checker | Oct 15 10:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | actually, roy could use a few of those | Oct 15 10:40 |
| mjg59_ | And moved to requiring payment | Oct 15 10:40 |
| mjg59_ | (Outside people who qualify for free access) | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's piushing proprietary software | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | vs 'core' | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *code | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and it'll fail | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | shithub will still lose money | Oct 15 10:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | __________ is dying | Oct 15 10:40 |
| mjg59_ | That's kind of a separate issue from nobody talking about it | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | while encouraging copyright violations | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which mjg59_ is OK with | Oct 15 10:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | biab | Oct 15 10:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no time to fight with copilot apologists | Oct 15 10:41 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah I'm actually broadly good with weakening copyright | Oct 15 10:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | im good with broadly weakening it | Oct 15 10:41 |
| mjg59_ | Free software doesn't depend on it | Oct 15 10:41 |
| mjg59_ | The GPL is a win while strong copyright exists | Oct 15 10:41 |
| mjg59_ | But I'd rather not have strong copyright | Oct 15 10:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | The GPL is a win while strong copyright exists <- this has been my position for years | Oct 15 10:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | But I'd rather not have strong copyrigh <- this too | Oct 15 10:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | however, as strategies for weakening copyright goes | Oct 15 10:42 |
| techrights-news | WheatSystem Is A Homebrew 8-Bit OS ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/wheatsystem-is-a-homebrew-8-bit-os/ | Source: Hackaday | Oct 15 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WheatSystem Is A Homebrew 8-Bit OS | Hackaday | Oct 15 10:42 | |
| reptilian_thrills | having microsoft rip people off has not weakened copyright very much, even during decades of "progress" | Oct 15 10:42 |
| techrights-news | RepRap ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/hackaday-podcast-189-seven-segments-three-ways-candle-code-diy-e-readers-and-the-badge-reveal/ | Source: Hackaday | Oct 15 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Podcast 189: Seven Segments Three Ways, Candle Code, DIY E-Readers, And The Badge Reveal | Hackaday | Oct 15 10:42 | |
| reptilian_thrills | instead, they charge royalties for bogus patents | Oct 15 10:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | but the royalties are just as real as they would be for legit patents | Oct 15 10:43 |
| mjg59_ | If someone other than Microsoft trained a model on the Github data (which, I admit, would be more work) you'd end up with an equivalent model that wasn't owned by Microsoft | Oct 15 10:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | i buy an android phone, microsoft gets paid. did they make android? no. would it matter? no. | Oct 15 10:43 |
| mjg59_ | Would that model be evil? | Oct 15 10:44 |
| techrights-news | Npm Timing Leak = Microsoft failure ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/this-week-in-security-npm-timing-leak-siemens-universal-key-and-php-in-png/ | Source: Hackaday http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/ | Oct 15 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Week In Security: Npm Timing Leak, Siemens Universal Key, And PHP In PNG | Hackaday | Oct 15 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XVIII — The Story of NPM | Techrights | Oct 15 10:44 | |
| reptilian_thrills | having microsoft rip people off has not weakened copyright very much, even during decades of "progress" <- if anything, copyright has gotten stronger since then | Oct 15 10:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> Would that model be evil? <- thats reducing the question to focus on the good and ignore the problem | Oct 15 10:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | if its not a fallacy its still rhetoric | Oct 15 10:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | youre REALLY good at framing shit | Oct 15 10:45 |
| mjg59_ | I think it's helpful to separate individual actions by Microsoft from Microsoft's overall strategy when analysing things | Oct 15 10:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | i want to know who trained you, it cant just be a hobby | Oct 15 10:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | I think it's helpful to separate individual actions by Microsoft from Microsoft's overall strategy <- you mean separate their actions from the problems it causes :) | Oct 15 10:46 |
| mjg59_ | Benefits of an Oxbridge education | Oct 15 10:46 |
| mjg59_ | (Not really, they don't teach rhetoric in biology courses) | Oct 15 10:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | Benefits of an Oxbridge education <- so when the an-coms smash oxbridge ill hold my tongue | Oct 15 10:46 |
| mjg59_ | (And I was never a member of the debating societies) | Oct 15 10:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | hard to believe | Oct 15 10:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | your skill at compartmentalising is nearly unlike any ive seen. | Oct 15 10:47 |
| mjg59_ | Oh, I'm ideologically closer to being an an-com than anything else tbh | Oct 15 10:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | youre like rhetorical qubes os | Oct 15 10:47 |
| mjg59_ | Microsoft as a whole certainly benefits from broadening IP protection | Oct 15 10:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | but hypocrisy has rarely hurt their ambitions or their bottom line | Oct 15 10:48 |
| mjg59_ | That doesn't mean that every single thing that happens within Microsoft that could be perceived in that way is intended to be that | Oct 15 10:48 |
| mjg59_ | Microsoft is a giant and dysfunctional company | Oct 15 10:48 |
| mjg59_ | It's just not capable of ensuring that 100% of everything lines up with being evil | Oct 15 10:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | Microsoft is a giant and dysfunctional company <- but unquestionably destructive to things outside it | Oct 15 10:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | It's just not capable of ensuring that 100% of everything lines up with being evil <- im not sure the margin makes much difference | Oct 15 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean i used to | Oct 15 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | before free software collapsed | Oct 15 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | i used to think we could win | Oct 15 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | i still TECHNICALLY do | Oct 15 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its a lot more laughable now | Oct 15 10:49 |
| mjg59_ | Hey if I'd wanted to sell out and make a shitload of cash by working for Microsoft I've had ample opportunity, and I won't because I think Microsoft is still fundamentally incompatible with advancing free software | Oct 15 10:49 |
| techrights-news | Pro Publica talks about "Affordable Housing" while taking bribes from the world's biggest thief, Bill Gates ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/crda-failed-affordable-housing-atlantic-city | Oct 15 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How CRDA Failed on Affordable Housing in Atlantic City — ProPublica | Oct 15 10:50 | |
| mjg59_ | But I don't think Copilot is a plot to launder free software into proprietary code | Oct 15 10:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah but thats roys schtick not mine | Oct 15 10:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | he thinks youre going to work for them because i thinks theyll buy aurora | Oct 15 10:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | and i said | Oct 15 10:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | for one reason or another, if microsoft buys aurora, youll probably quit not long after | Oct 15 10:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | call it a hunch | Oct 15 10:51 |
| mjg59_ | If any company I work for is acquired by Microsoft, my resignation notice is signed in the time it takes me to write it after learning that happens | Oct 15 10:51 |
| mjg59_ | Ditto Apple | Oct 15 10:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <reptilian_thrills> yeah but thats roys schtick not mine | Oct 15 10:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | trhat's the evidence | Oct 15 10:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | and somehow that doesnt surprise me | Oct 15 10:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | from the people who came up with it | Oct 15 10:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | read the series | Oct 15 10:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | serial plagiarists | Oct 15 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | im not sure what youre even trying to tell me right now | Oct 15 10:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i'll be back later then | Oct 15 10:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i saw "roy" | Oct 15 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | probably something im already aware of | Oct 15 10:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | got highlight | Oct 15 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah that was about mjg working for microsoft | Oct 15 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont think he will | Oct 15 10:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | want to make sure what you say with my name in it is at least truthful | Oct 15 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | not on the books at least | Oct 15 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | is at least truthful <- knowing what i was saying is a good first step | Oct 15 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | i was saying that its your schtick that hes going to go work for microsoft | Oct 15 10:53 |
| mjg59_ | But seriously I don't think Copilot is fundamentally an attack on free software | Oct 15 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | and i dont agree | Oct 15 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats the whole thing | Oct 15 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont think he will go work for microsoft | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he doesn't need to | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he already works for microsoft | Oct 15 10:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | that may be true | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but on the salary of another company | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is very common | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in unievrsities also | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the uni pays the salaryy | Oct 15 10:54 |
| mjg59_ | In an abstract sense, from a free software perspective we should be in favour of tools that make it easier for people to take existing ideas and turn them into free software | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but the person works against the uni | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and for smicrosoft | Oct 15 10:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and maybe later goes work for microsoft more directly | Oct 15 10:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | In an abstract sense <- this is too abstract, if you were a marxist you wouldnt do this | Oct 15 10:55 |
| mjg59_ | The problem is that any tool that makes it possible to take existing ideas and turn them into free software also makes it possible to take existing ideas and turn them into proprietary software | Oct 15 10:55 |
| mjg59_ | So should we argue that because it enables a bad thing, we should consider it to be bad? | Oct 15 10:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | because youre creating a very abstract formula and deciding what to do based on that | Oct 15 10:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> So should we argue that because it enables a bad thing, we should consider it to be bad? <- what you should do is look at the situation | Oct 15 10:55 |
| mjg59_ | Or is the tool itself neutral, and the problem is the existence of proprietary software? | Oct 15 10:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | and look at the big picture | Oct 15 10:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | and compare them | Oct 15 10:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | and decide what to do based on those. | Oct 15 10:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | instead youre creating an abstract formula and fitting your goals to an overgeneralisation | Oct 15 10:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | this looks like im complaining about your process | Oct 15 10:56 |
| mjg59_ | I have real trouble with the position of "This thing isn't inherently bad, but it could harm free software, so we should say it's bad" | Oct 15 10:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | but actually im complaining about the results and saying what leads to it | Oct 15 10:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | I have real trouble with the position of "This thing isn't inherently bad, but it could harm free software, so we should say it's bad" <- that too is an overgeneralisation that i think is foolish | Oct 15 10:56 |
| mjg59_ | And, like, what's the actual goal of free software | Oct 15 10:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean on the part of free software | Oct 15 10:56 |
| mjg59_ | Is it the software itself, or is it the idea that knowledge should be freely owned | Oct 15 10:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> Is it the software itself, or is it the idea that knowledge should be freely owned <- i can give you my standard answer to this | Oct 15 10:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | the goals of free software are 1. for all software to be free 2. for users to control their computing | Oct 15 10:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | now, im sympathetic to free culture as a goal. ive been using free culture licenses religiously for like a decade | Oct 15 10:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | i wrote a RHETORICAL PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE to poke at stallmans line between software and culture-- which has SOME basis in copyright law/tradition but idgaf. | Oct 15 10:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | the fsf has never been fair to free culture | Oct 15 10:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | and cc sucks too | Oct 15 10:58 |
| techrights-news | "Copyright Management Services Ltd, a UK-based company that helped front the BitTorrent piracy lawsuit factory known as Guardaley" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-lawsuit-front-company-tries-to-shut-down-accounts-overdue-221014/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Oct 15 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Piracy Lawsuit Front Company Tries to Shut Down, Accounts Overdue * TorrentFreak | Oct 15 10:58 | |
| techrights-news | "Germany's Federal Court of Justice has clarified the conditions under which rightsholders can seek site-blocking orders to restrict access to piracy sites." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/federal-court-of-justice-pirate-site-blocking-must-be-a-tool-of-last-resort-221014/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Oct 15 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Federal Court of Justice: Pirate Site Blocking Must Be a Tool of Last Resort * TorrentFreak | Oct 15 10:58 | |
| reptilian_thrills | cc is just a mountain of disappointment. and suck. | Oct 15 10:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | i adore lessig. | Oct 15 10:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | the apple falls very far from the tree | Oct 15 10:59 |
| techrights-news | "Back in the 1980s, the personal computer was a hip new thing, and the form this new technology would take was still up for debate." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/toteable-pc-is-inspired-by-macs-of-days-gone-by/ | Source: Hackaday | Oct 15 10:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▁▄▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▄▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁█▁▃▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 22.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▁█▄▆▇█▇█▁▃▄▂██▁▁▁▂█▁███▁▁█▁█▆▂▁ avg(k/sec) 76.16▕ swarm size (avg): 37.81 ⟲ | Oct 15 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Toteable PC Is Inspired By Macs Of Days Gone By | Hackaday | Oct 15 10:59 | |
| mjg59_ | It's kind of a tragedy that the FSF and CC never got along | Oct 15 10:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | i actually stopped paying the fsf because i felt they were attacking free culture | Oct 15 10:59 |
| mjg59_ | Because I think a more coherent free knowledge movement would have worked better than separate free culture and free software movements | Oct 15 10:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | however, its never been one sided | Oct 15 10:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2020/10/31/rms-lessig-video-2001-san-francisco/ | Oct 15 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Video Release by Marcia K. Wilbur: Richard Stallman (RMS) and Larry Lessig | Techrights | Oct 15 11:00 | |
| reptilian_thrills | the two have been in the backseat screaming and pulling each others hair and kicking each other for 20 years of this fucking road trip | Oct 15 11:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah lessig vs rms isnt the issue | Oct 15 11:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | its fsf vs cc, but cc sucks | Oct 15 11:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | divide and rule | Oct 15 11:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | if cc was more like lessig, fsf would be the main problem | Oct 15 11:00 |
| mjg59_ | Ok, so let's take the Copilot technology, but apply it to literature | Oct 15 11:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/ | Oct 15 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Splinter Group’ SFC (Already Sued by Moglen/SFLC) is Not Really Against Microsoft GitHub, It Helps IBM/Red Hat Outsource GNU to GitHub Using the Same Excuses Microsoft Used When Lobbying for Kernel.org to Move to Proprietary GitHub | Techrights | Oct 15 11:00 | |
| reptilian_thrills | divide and rule <- thats not how the fsf sees it | Oct 15 11:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | mark-j-wielaard <- coup | Oct 15 11:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | but you know that | Oct 15 11:01 |
| mjg59_ | I mean, Dall-E is basically Copilot but for graphical art | Oct 15 11:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | and-sourcewar <- ibm gcc | Oct 15 11:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ito was left in charge of cc | Oct 15 11:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | I mean, Dall-E is basically Copilot but for graphical ar <- i made this point about stable diffusion recently | Oct 15 11:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he then helped mit net money from gates/epstein | Oct 15 11:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so ito was no lessig | Oct 15 11:01 |
| mjg59_ | So do we treat those technologies the same way as Copilot? If not, why? | Oct 15 11:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he apprarently saw nothing wrong with sex trafficking and microsoft passing bribes | Oct 15 11:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean there are a few ways i can poke at your generalisation | Oct 15 11:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | id need time to pick one and im not sure how much they all matter | Oct 15 11:02 |
| mjg59_ | I would genuinely love you to | Oct 15 11:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/joi-ito-email/ | Oct 15 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Joi Ito Already Admitted on the Record That Bill Gates Had Paid MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein | Techrights | Oct 15 11:02 | |
| reptilian_thrills | okay, for one, we could lean on the distinction between software and other works-- which i TOTALLY think stallman overplays, and he shouldnt | Oct 15 11:02 |
| mjg59_ | Because my gut feeling is that these are the same things, and they say something about creativity, and socially we have different ideas about the creativity in graphical art and the creativity in software | Oct 15 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | but making it into nothing at all is probably a mistake too | Oct 15 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | these are the same things <- im not sure theyre the same thing | Oct 15 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | in copyright theyre not | Oct 15 11:03 |
| *yuhong (~yuhong@8bhg8w55itquy.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 15 11:03 | |
| reptilian_thrills | in otehr ways theyre not | Oct 15 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | stallman was always good at drawing the line between them | Oct 15 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | i just think he made (way) too much of it | Oct 15 11:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | here comes the microsoft troll | Oct 15 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | im not saying theres no line at all | Oct 15 11:03 |
| mjg59_ | Can I just say that when Roy asks me why I'm here, it's because this is the sort of conversation I want to have | Oct 15 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean he gives you the perfect excuse anyway | Oct 15 11:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | he never stfu about you | Oct 15 11:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | you two didnt date in uni? | Oct 15 11:04 |
| yuhong | I wonder would Shane support a transition to SSD based search engines. | Oct 15 11:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yuhong: wtf? | Oct 15 11:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | shane has not been involved since 2007 | Oct 15 11:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think he meant hypothetically | Oct 15 11:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and you keep bringing up things from 15 years ago like his google ads | Oct 15 11:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | or rhetorically | Oct 15 11:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yuhong: grow up | Oct 15 11:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe yuhong is interested in the history of techrights | Oct 15 11:05 |
| mjg59_ | Roy was all busy lifting and I was too busy hanging out with women | Oct 15 11:05 |
| mjg59_ | Not a lot of opportunity for us to hook up | Oct 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: no, he is trolling for microsoft | Oct 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like claiming we have google ads | Oct 15 11:05 |
| mjg59_ | He seems pretty monogomous, anyway | Oct 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they existed in 2006 | Oct 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not my choise, either | Oct 15 11:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah i think hes half-amish | Oct 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *choice | Oct 15 11:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | in every conceivable way | Oct 15 11:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | probably on his fathers side | Oct 15 11:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | techusers is like this too | Oct 15 11:06 |
| yuhong | Since 2007? | Oct 15 11:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | 2006 | Oct 15 11:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | oh different question | Oct 15 11:06 |
| yuhong | I believe that you had Google ads for years. | Oct 15 11:06 |
| mjg59_ | But anyway, "AI" generated content | Oct 15 11:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | <yuhong> I believe that you had Google ads for years. <- what would the point of that be | Oct 15 11:07 |
| mjg59_ | I think the arguments from graphical artists have been more coherent than those from software developers | Oct 15 11:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | also the internet archive should make it clear whether their were google ads or not | Oct 15 11:07 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the microsofters love to bring that up | Oct 15 11:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | have been more coherent <- copyright works differently for images and software. | Oct 15 11:07 |
| mjg59_ | I think the most powerful argument from the art side is "What does 'in the style of' mean" | Oct 15 11:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like de icaza did in 2007 | Oct 15 11:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | how copyright is/isnt weaked (it stands to reason) should be different as well | Oct 15 11:08 |
| mjg59_ | I think framing the discussion in terms of copyright is a problem | Oct 15 11:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's the "you're doing it for profit" FUD | Oct 15 11:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I didn't even have access to that gulag account | Oct 15 11:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | in terms of copyright is a proble <- its unavoidable | Oct 15 11:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that was shane's | Oct 15 11:08 |
| mjg59_ | Given that my position is basically "Fuck copyright" | Oct 15 11:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean, you are very insistent on framing this in a way that ignores every problem brought up | Oct 15 11:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | and focuses on how it might be aweseom | Oct 15 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | open source has done that forever | Oct 15 11:09 |
| mjg59_ | Hrm let me try to rephrase this | Oct 15 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | but what if its REALLY COOL THO | Oct 15 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean thats great if its really cool-- but | Oct 15 11:09 |
| mjg59_ | If we view this argument through the lens of copyright we solidify existing beliefs about what copyright should be | Oct 15 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | imo we should weight the pros AND the cons | Oct 15 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | not the pros OR the cons | Oct 15 11:09 |
| techrights-news | "Despite efforts to curb insider trading, the practice has been rampant within the US government on both sides of the aisle" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/14/the-scandal-of-congressional-stock-trading/ | Source: Scheerpost | Oct 15 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Scandal of Congressional Stock Trading - scheerpost.com | Oct 15 11:09 | |
| mjg59_ | And maybe existing copyright law is actually bad | Oct 15 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | If we view this argument through the lens of copyright we solidify existing beliefs <- well no | Oct 15 11:09 |
| yuhong | I am targeting Shane and not schestowitz anyway. | Oct 15 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | again, if you were a marxist youd know more about transitioning things | Oct 15 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so you're being an s-shole | Oct 15 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | attacking a deaf person 15 years after he moved on to fcus on family | Oct 15 11:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean an-coms are very much | Oct 15 11:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | smash now, rebuild later | Oct 15 11:10 |
| mjg59_ | yuhong: I've repeatedly tried to block you from commenting on my blog because almost everything you say has no relevance to whatever was written and I honestly can't believe that I'm saying this *here* but you're adding nothing | Oct 15 11:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | marxists dismantle things like they want to put it back together in a way that works. | Oct 15 11:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | you just want to smash copyright. this argument is sloppy as hell but i think it cuts right to the heart of the matter | Oct 15 11:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | im happy to see copyright disappear | Oct 15 11:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | but i dont necessarily think ANY OF THIS is going to help make copyright disappear | Oct 15 11:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | its going to affect copyleft faster than it affects copyright | Oct 15 11:11 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah I don't think this makes copyright disappear at all | Oct 15 11:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | and its going to help corporations more than it helps free sw | Oct 15 11:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | but then again | Oct 15 11:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | free sw is dead so | Oct 15 11:12 |
| mjg59_ | But it's about trying to remain consistent with what I believe copyright should protect | Oct 15 11:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | we are basically coming up with a plan to not piss off the beothuk tribe, which no longer exists | Oct 15 11:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | everything is open source and open source LOVES this shit | Oct 15 11:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | so rah rah rah copilot yay | Oct 15 11:12 |
| mjg59_ | And if the argument is that we need strong copyright to protect free software then I think we've lost at some other level | Oct 15 11:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no copyrights -> you can lieft all source code of proprietary software | Oct 15 11:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | everything becomes public domain | Oct 15 11:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and code reuse is a natural condition | Oct 15 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean your argument-- forgive me for saying so-- is pretty much word for word what julia reda wrote years ago | Oct 15 11:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sort of like 50 years ago I think | Oct 15 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | and i know what you did (im not implying anything Personal or intimate here) with julia reda | Oct 15 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | so | Oct 15 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | not that it necessarily changes any of this | Oct 15 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | but... | Oct 15 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | id feel remiss if i didnt even mention this | Oct 15 11:13 |
| techrights-news | Europol and Interpol spying ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/10/14/connecting-europol-and-interpol-eu-provides-more-surveillance-in-libya/ | Source: Site36 | Oct 15 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Connecting Europol and Interpol: EU provides more surveillance in Libya – Security Architectures in the EU | Oct 15 11:13 | |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Felix Reda now, I believe | Oct 15 11:14 |
| techrights-news | Medicine Dosing Spoon Discontinued ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/medicine-dosing-spoon-discontinued-made-3d-printable-instead/ | Source: Hackaday | Oct 15 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Medicine Dosing Spoon Discontinued, Made 3D Printable Instead | Hackaday | Oct 15 11:14 | |
| mjg59_ | But I don't think I've ever communicated with him | Oct 15 11:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | Felix Reda <- this is literally the first ive heard of this | Oct 15 11:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Reda= anti-rms | Oct 15 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | the first ive hear <- not even a hint or a whisper or a rumour or an inkling | Oct 15 11:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe pressing reset | Oct 15 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | id say im shocked but i have no reason to be, and im really not | Oct 15 11:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | after some bad press | Oct 15 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe pressing reset <- this is mildly transphobic | Oct 15 11:16 |
| mjg59_ | https://www.buzzfeed.de/recherchen/exklusiv-der-ehemalige-eu-abgeordnete-und-digitalexperte-felix-reda-senficon-outet-sich-als-trans-zr-91261007.html | Oct 15 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeed.de | Exklusiv: Ehemaliger EU-Abgeordneter Felix Reda outet sich als trans | Oct 15 11:16 | |
| reptilian_thrills | most people dont become trans to "press reset" | Oct 15 11:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: no, it does happen | Oct 15 11:16 |
| mjg59_ | … | Oct 15 11:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | name changes in general | Oct 15 11:16 |
| mjg59_ | wtf | Oct 15 11:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no wtf | Oct 15 11:16 |
| yuhong | Interestingly http://www.edu-nix.org/ seems dead now too. | Oct 15 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.edu-nix.org/ ) | Oct 15 11:16 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | fact | Oct 15 11:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not convenient to some | Oct 15 11:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but always applicable | Oct 15 11:16 |
| mjg59_ | People transition to avoid their history | Oct 15 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | While retaining family names | Oct 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there are high-profile examples | Oct 15 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | And doing so in a way that leaves a clear link between them | Oct 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | m,ental breakdowns | Oct 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then name change | Oct 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to start afresh | Oct 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | many examples | Oct 15 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | Many examples of people transitioning for that purpose? | Oct 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or after some misconduct | Oct 15 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | Name one | Oct 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's why states try to chain and link name changes | Oct 15 11:17 |
| techrights-news | "Well, there is, kinda. It’s called the Stock Act and passed in 2012. It allows stock trading, so long as the politicos eschew insider information." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/14/the-scandal-of-congressional-stock-trading/ | Source: Counter Punch | Oct 15 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Scandal of Congressional Stock Trading - CounterPunch.org | Oct 15 11:18 | |
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| schestowitz[TR] | annie machon's partner | Oct 15 11:18 |
| mjg59_ | Give one example of someone transitioning to escape their history | Oct 15 11:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | blacks actually commit crimes. we have records. | Oct 15 11:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | if every time someone mentions blacks i said "maybe hes a criminal" | Oct 15 11:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | it would be pretty racist | Oct 15 11:18 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Annie Machon's parter transitioned? | Oct 15 11:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yes | Oct 15 11:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I spoke to her about it | Oct 15 11:19 |
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| mjg59_ | And did so to avoid her history? | Oct 15 11:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but that was back in the days when according to you you were saying "transphobic shit" | Oct 15 11:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (I did not) | Oct 15 11:20 |
| yuhong | https://www.shanecoyle.com/ still seems to be alive. | Oct 15 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shanecoyle.com | Citizen Shane | Oct 15 11:20 | |
| techrights-news | "When the COVID-19 pandemic hit, it became clear that organizers would have to pull the plug on any large social events they had planned." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/errf-22-after-two-years-back-and-better-than-ever/ | Source: Hackaday | Oct 15 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ERRF 22: After Two Years, Back And Better Than Ever | Hackaday | Oct 15 11:20 | |
| reptilian_thrills | yuhong why are you so interested in 15-year-old techrights? | Oct 15 11:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | there "has to" be a reason | Oct 15 11:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me is interested in techrights history too | Oct 15 11:21 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Yuhong makes basically no sense at all | Oct 15 11:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | did you read boycott novell? | Oct 15 11:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | lol, yuhong thinks there's only one person for each name | Oct 15 11:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: Yuhong makes basically no sense at all <- thats been my impression too, but im still fuzzing atm | Oct 15 11:22 |
| yuhong | They had the Google ads for years. Do you remember when the ads were removed? | Oct 15 11:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's like thinking a Nguyen is just one family | Oct 15 11:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | Do you remember when the ads were removed? <- you can just go to the front page in the internet archive and see for yourself | Oct 15 11:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | i have no idea when the ads were there/removed | Oct 15 11:23 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway, the argument that people transition in order to avoid their past is ridiculous | Oct 15 11:23 |
| mjg59_ | Roy's provided no evidence to support that claim | Oct 15 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's not what I even said, transphobe | Oct 15 11:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | ridiculous <- and sort of implies (even if not deliberately) that its just some kind of clever disguise | Oct 15 11:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | that's not what I even said <- what you said does imply some of these things. | Oct 15 11:23 |
| mjg59_ | And I don't think there's any plausible suggestion that Felix Reda is trying to avoid his past | Oct 15 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | unless you were WILDLY misunderstood | Oct 15 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even before trans was a thing people changed names to avoid association with crimes | Oct 15 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or other unwanted things | Oct 15 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nothing to do with gender | Oct 15 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | even before trans was a thing people changed names to avoid association with crimes <- right so | Oct 15 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but about names | Oct 15 11:24 |
| mjg59_ | 11:15 < schestowitz[TR]> maybe pressing reset | Oct 15 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people also change surnames for this reason sometimes | Oct 15 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | nothing to do with gender <- exactly the point mjg is making | Oct 15 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like after divorces | Oct 15 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even some relatives of mine | Oct 15 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | you apparently are conflating name changes with gender transitioning | Oct 15 11:24 |
| mjg59_ | Roy, you understand that transitioning is not just a matter of changing names, right | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | many people change nams | Oct 15 11:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | changing your name is easy | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | few of those are trans | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *names | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but you live ina microcosm | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | of the people you've long mocked, mjg59_ | Oct 15 11:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | eli5 is no good, you have to explain like hes 2. | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so you hear name change and think of sex change | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that says a lot about you | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not about me | Oct 15 11:25 |
| mjg59_ | We are talking about someone who transitioned and changed his name as a result of that transition | Oct 15 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | let us see how many people in the Uk change a name per year? | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I reckon abotu a million | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | rianne changed her name | Oct 15 11:26 |
| mjg59_ | Implying that he changed his name to "press reset" is not appropriate | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and had to send documents around to do this | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | liekly; a million people a year change name | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the UK alone | Oct 15 11:26 |
| mjg59_ | Cool what the fuck does that have to do with this specific case | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | most due to marriages and divorces, I'd guess | Oct 15 11:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | you can tell roy hes conflaing the gender transition with the name change but he wont get it | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway, I'm out | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is a waste of time | Oct 15 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and trolling | Oct 15 11:26 |
| mjg59_ | Bye, transphobe | Oct 15 11:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/ | Oct 15 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then ‘Cancel’ People Who Aren’t Transphobic | Techrights | Oct 15 11:27 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | talk to the mirror | Oct 15 11:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | anyway, ive never heard of felix reda before today | Oct 15 11:27 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah roy the thing is that I am not the person I was 20 years ago | Oct 15 11:27 |
| mjg59_ | Given the opportunity to go back in time and slap the shit out of myself I'd do so | Oct 15 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | good, so maybe in 20 years you'll grow pubes | Oct 15 11:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | good, so maybe in 20 years you'll grow pubes <- random af | Oct 15 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but then bill agtes won't want you | Oct 15 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nor graveley | Oct 15 11:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | ah, the connection | Oct 15 11:28 |
| mjg59_ | But I'm not the person I was 20 years ago | Oct 15 11:28 |
| *yuhong has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Oct 15 11:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | who says men are disgusting when their body grows hair | Oct 15 11:28 |
| mjg59_ | And I reject many things I said and did then | Oct 15 11:28 |
| mjg59_ | And I can explain why those things were wrong | Oct 15 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which makes one wonder about him being a kid lust cookoohead | Oct 15 11:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | roy is the only person i know that gives a shit who you were 20 years ago | Oct 15 11:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bbll | Oct 15 11:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | posting Daily Links now | Oct 15 11:29 |
| mjg59_ | Because over the course of my life I have learned a lot, and now I try to help encourage people not to be who I was 20 years ago | Oct 15 11:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me tries to meet 60yo mjg and get him to slap 40yo mjg | Oct 15 11:30 |
| mjg59_ | And if more people had been doing that 20 years ago, maybe I'd have learned faster | Oct 15 11:30 |
| mjg59_ | Oh man I am honestly fascinated to learn who 60yo me is going to be | Oct 15 11:30 |
| mjg59_ | I'd *love* to know what I'm going to learn in the next couple of decades | Oct 15 11:30 |
| mjg59_ | Maybe I'll finally grow pubes | Oct 15 11:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | so would i | Oct 15 11:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> Maybe I'll finally grow pubes <- lol, you just have to push | Oct 15 11:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | and then for gods sake, change your name | Oct 15 11:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | because thats how its done | Oct 15 11:31 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, better cope out as a woman and deal with all the social bullshit that will follow than deal with my history up until that point | Oct 15 11:32 |
| mjg59_ | Er, "come out", not "cope out" | Oct 15 11:32 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway sorry that got super derailed you were making a good point and then I pointed out that you were understandably confused about someone's gender and then roy happened | Oct 15 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — FUD and Openwashing | Oct 15 11:33 | |
| reptilian_thrills | anyway, next time i meet someone whos trans ill be sure to ask them what theyre running from | Oct 15 11:33 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 11:33 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | <mjg59_> And if more people had been doing that 20 years ago, maybe I'd have learned faster | Oct 15 11:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | explain it to your partner | Oct 15 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not to me | Oct 15 11:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | that got super derailed you were making a good point and then I pointed out that you were understandably confused about someone's gender and then roy happened <- just another day in #techrights | Oct 15 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 20 years ago was not much different | Oct 15 11:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | its good to know about felix anyway | Oct 15 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and even in 2022 we have gays here and starstreak says in canada also doing "LGB drop the T" protests | Oct 15 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | My partner seems pretty ok with understanding that who I am now isn't who I was 20 years ago? | Oct 15 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like dfc basically | Oct 15 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | Weird that you spend more time complaining about me being transphobic 20 years ago than you do about dfc being transphobic now | Oct 15 11:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we don't ban | Oct 15 11:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | Weird that you spend more time complaining about me being transphobic 20 years ago than you do about dfc being transphobic now <- i can explain it, but its stupid anyway | Oct 15 11:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not everything posted here is endorsed by anyone else | Oct 15 11:36 |
| mjg59_ | But you write posts about me being transphobic 20 years ago, without mentioning dfc being transphobic now | Oct 15 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and now there is a person here called "whitenigga" | Oct 15 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I don't endorse that | Oct 15 11:36 |
| mjg59_ | Cool | Oct 15 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and we don't police nicknames like xbox (miocrosoft) does | Oct 15 11:36 |
| mjg59_ | That's certainly a choice you can make | Oct 15 11:36 |
| whitenigga | hello :D | Oct 15 11:36 |
| mjg59_ | You can allow racism and transphobia to exist in your community | Oct 15 11:36 |
| mjg59_ | Or you can do something about that | Oct 15 11:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sigh | Oct 15 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | Up to you! | Oct 15 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | Also up to other people to judge you based on that | Oct 15 11:37 |
| whitenigga | yo dawg | Oct 15 11:38 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway I'd love to get back to discussing how copyright law intersects with the goals of free software | Oct 15 11:38 |
| whitenigga | im black but im albino | Oct 15 11:38 |
| whitenigga | so im literally a whitenigga | Oct 15 11:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are not antitransphobia enforcer | Oct 15 11:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | I'd love to get back to discussing how copyright law intersects with the goals of free software <- i think (felix) redas take on it is a mistake | Oct 15 11:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no more than kkk whom "saw the light" speak for tolerance | Oct 15 11:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | i did at the time, and i do now | Oct 15 11:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course i can appreciate the logic | Oct 15 11:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | but i think its overgeneralising thigns that are sometimes different | Oct 15 11:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | and the real test for whether its different or not-- is practice | Oct 15 11:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | whether its different in practice | Oct 15 11:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | so if we could fast forward to see where this goes, and it goes fine-- then theres no problem obviously | Oct 15 11:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think if we fast forward we see bigger gains for microsoft and not much impact on copyright in general | Oct 15 11:40 |
| mjg59_ | I don't disagree with that argument, but the thing I'd question is how much of the difference in practice is down to fundamental differences and how much is down to how we socially distinguish between things | Oct 15 11:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | this will affect copyright-- for microsoft and other big companies | Oct 15 11:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | and how much is down to how we socially distinguish between thing <- generally speaking, id say all of stallmans points about the distinction are valid, just exaggerated | Oct 15 11:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ is the Robert Byrd of the trans community | Oct 15 11:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me tries to think who robert byrd is | Oct 15 11:41 |
| mjg59_ | If we taught kids how to look at existing software and copy it in their own style, in the same way we teach them to look at art and copy it in their own style, would that change things? | Oct 15 11:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> If we taught kids how to look at existing software and copy it in their own style, in the same way we teach them to look at art and copy it in their own style, would that change things? <- you move very fast | Oct 15 11:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | i used to have a book | Oct 15 11:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | that said plagiarism was more common and not such a big deal | Oct 15 11:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | until commercial publishing (and the printing press) got going | Oct 15 11:42 |
| mjg59_ | I'd prefer to frame it as "Let's skip the dull bits and get to the interesting question" | Oct 15 11:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | before that, people stole each others words ideas everything no problem | Oct 15 11:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | similarly, copyright has about 0 bearing on non-commerical copies for most of its existence | Oct 15 11:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | and you could even hand-copy a whole book and charge a fee, because you werent "a publisher" | Oct 15 11:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | but once you got into "publishing" you had to follow copyright law | Oct 15 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | And this is actually one of my problems with Doctorow - he writes things complaining about people subverting one aspect of "IP" law, but uses the same law to prevent a range of re-uses of his work | Oct 15 11:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | "Let's skip the dull bits and get to the interesting question <- the thing is, thats naivete as a strategy | Oct 15 11:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean you want to go somewhere then figure out where we are going after-- or not at all | Oct 15 11:44 |
| mjg59_ | (Which was kind of a problem when I ended up hanging out with him a couple of weeks ago) | Oct 15 11:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | in terms of strategy (in general) thats the opposite of what you should do | Oct 15 11:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | he writes things complaining about people subverting one aspect of "IP" law, but uses the same law to prevent a range of re-uses of his work <- yeah | Oct 15 11:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | ive read and bought several of his books | Oct 15 11:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | but ive pretty much given up on him | Oct 15 11:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | i liked makers a lot | Oct 15 11:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | i started reasing information doesnt want to be free | Oct 15 11:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | i loved him in rip a remix manifesto | Oct 15 11:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | the "boring details" of this are the ones that really tell us what we need to know imo | Oct 15 11:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | not because they necessarily go my way or your way | Oct 15 11:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | but because they let us figure out where we are going with some actual knowledge | Oct 15 11:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | you really just want to move, imo | Oct 15 11:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | and i dont want copyright either | Oct 15 11:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | but relaxing it for microsoft doesnt really need to result in any gains for the rest of us | Oct 15 11:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | just like increasing taxes for the poor doesnt make the rich pay for things we need | Oct 15 11:48 |
| mjg59_ | I think the idea that we're relaxing it for Microsoft is the key point here | Oct 15 11:48 |
| mjg59_ | If we did the same, would that change its character? | Oct 15 11:48 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Galician Region publishes Good Practices for Releasing Open Source ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Galician_Region_publishes_Good_Practices_for_Releasing_Open_Sou.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Galician_Region_publishes_Good_Practices_for_Releasing_Open_Sou.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 11:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftovers | Oct 15 11:48 | |
| reptilian_thrills | youre not going to convince the copyleft die-hards even then | Oct 15 11:48 |
| mjg59_ | Say we convinced Microsoft to allow us to train a free software model on the Github corpus (and yes I don't think they would, this is a thought experiment) | Oct 15 11:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | and i realise that doesnt mean we shouldnt change things | Oct 15 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | Would that be qualitatively different to Microsoft owning the only example of such a model | Oct 15 11:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | imo copyleft is not a good enough reason to keep copyright | Oct 15 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | Or would it be an equal threat to free software | Oct 15 11:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | before software became copyrightable | Oct 15 11:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | because it wasnt, in the states | Oct 15 11:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | companies just used ndas instead | Oct 15 11:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <reptilian_thrills> /me tries to think who robert byrd is | Oct 15 11:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | former KKK | Oct 15 11:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | thanks | Oct 15 11:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | if im going to compare mjg to robert byrd i might as well go full godwin imo | Oct 15 11:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for political reasons he stopped the "kkk shit" | Oct 15 11:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | oh, now i see the nuance | Oct 15 11:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | former kkk | Oct 15 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | kanye west is reverse byrd | Oct 15 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | started with "george bush dones'\t care about black people" | Oct 15 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now sides with neonazi rhetorics | Oct 15 11:52 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Is your argument that if someone has ever done something bad, it's impossible for them to understand that and change? | Oct 15 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | don't gloat | Oct 15 11:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | , it's impossible for them to understand that and change? <- projection | Oct 15 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you're no role model | Oct 15 11:52 |
| mjg59_ | I'm clearly no role model | Oct 15 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | rms has at least been quite tolerant for almost 70 years | Oct 15 11:53 |
| mjg59_ | rms refused to use the correct pronouns to refer to my partner | Oct 15 11:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sorry to hear that | Oct 15 11:53 |
| mjg59_ | Cool | Oct 15 11:53 |
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| reptilian_thrills | the thing is, if you dont have anything you can tell the copyleft die-hards | Oct 15 11:54 |
| mjg59_ | And maybe 20 years ago I would also have failed to, but since then I've realised I was wrong in that respect | Oct 15 11:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre just going to fight you every step of the way | Oct 15 11:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | which you wont care about, but theyll also fight everyone else who supports getting rid of copyright | Oct 15 11:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | and they already do | Oct 15 11:54 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah I think the distinction is really between whether copyleft is a tactical thing or whether copyleft is a strategic thing | Oct 15 11:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | it may seem beside the point-- i dont think it is, but | Oct 15 11:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | if we had a coheerent (functioning) freesw movement | Oct 15 11:55 |
| mjg59_ | And I think some die-hard copyleftists have ended up defending copyleft to a point that they've ended up defending copyright even if that wasn't where they started | Oct 15 11:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | and a functioning free culture movement | Oct 15 11:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | we wouldnt need to have this debate | Oct 15 11:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | they would all be behind if if it were workable | Oct 15 11:56 |
| mjg59_ | This has been incredibly helpful in understanding where a bunch of the pushback comes from, thank you | Oct 15 11:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | but because we have neither, they will fight this even if its workable (i not sure it is) | Oct 15 11:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | some die-hard copyleftists have ended up defending copyleft to a point that they've ended up defending copyright even if that wasn't where they started <- no question and ive been bitching about THIS VERY THING for years now | Oct 15 11:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | technically stallman is for reducing terms | Oct 15 11:56 |
| techrights-news | "During the talk there were a few connection problems which were eventually fixed. The published recording is complete and contains all of the actual speech that got through." http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#2021 | Oct 15 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-audio-video.gnu.org | Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation | Oct 15 11:57 | |
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| reptilian_thrills | but copyright is more likely to be abolished | Oct 15 11:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean its all well and good to say "in a perfect world" and he does | Oct 15 11:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | but sometimes he says "in this world" when its about free software | Oct 15 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | Oh wait this is actually a perfect example of horseshoe theory | Oct 15 11:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | what if its about copyright? then you never know what hes going to say | Oct 15 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | Copyleft maximalists becoming copyright maximalists | Oct 15 11:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | Copyleft maximalists becoming copyright maximalists <- heh | Oct 15 11:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think its just political failure | Oct 15 11:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont know anyone who takes horseshoe theory seriously. its funny at parties but doesnt explain that much | Oct 15 11:59 |
| techrights-news | Taiwan reports 77 COVID-19 deaths, second worst after Russia. Only a crazy one thinks it makes sense that China reports 5,226 total deaths, whereas Taiwan alone has twice as many dead (in total). The West used to praise Taiwan's response... for POLITICAL reasons. | Oct 15 11:59 |
| techrights-news | The number of new asymptomatic cases, which China counts separately, were 1,003 http://www.nhc.gov.cn/xcs/yqtb/202210/4cae2dec1b394c5e8077b95bac3bdf1c.shtml really? Just 1,000? How many got tested? | Oct 15 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nhc.gov.cn | NO TITLE | Oct 15 12:01 | |
| techrights-news | On a weekly basis the UK has about a million asymptomatic COVID-19 cases, according to KCL/UCL studies | Oct 15 12:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | the marxist version of horseshoe theory seems to be "historical dialectics" and at least marxists take that seriously | Oct 15 12:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | but theres definitely a nuance | Oct 15 12:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | coipyleft and copyuright not the same | Oct 15 12:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | copyleft is about maximising sharing | Oct 15 12:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | copyright maximalists are the opposite | Oct 15 12:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | one strives for scarcity | Oct 15 12:03 |
| mjg59_ | Roy copyleft literally doesn't exist without copyright | Oct 15 12:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | copyleft is about maximising sharing <- in theory | Oct 15 12:03 |
| mjg59_ | Learn to fucking nuance | Oct 15 12:03 |
| mjg59_ | The stronger copyright is, the stronger copyleft is | Oct 15 12:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | learn manners | Oct 15 12:03 |
| mjg59_ | I'll respect you when you respect me | Oct 15 12:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | go back to acpiu work | Oct 15 12:04 |
| mjg59_ | Not a lot to do there, it works now | Oct 15 12:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | he likes your acpi work | Oct 15 12:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2008/07/25/foxconn-bios-acpi/ | Oct 15 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Dirty ACPI Secrets: It’s Back! (Updated) | Techrights | Oct 15 12:04 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.osnews.com/story/17689/bill-gates-on-making-acpi-not-work-with-linux/ | Oct 15 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill Gates on Making ACPI Not Work with Linux – OSnews | Oct 15 12:04 | |
| reptilian_thrills | i want to tease him that you were transphobic back then but i think hes got that covered | Oct 15 12:04 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah uh you realise that the whole foxconn thing was ryan being wrong | Oct 15 12:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | how was he wrong about foxconn-- im more itnerested about foxconn than even ryan being wrong | Oct 15 12:05 |
| mjg59_ | It was a combination of their BIOS not matching the spec and Linux not matching the spec and the combination breaking | Oct 15 12:05 |
| mjg59_ | It was nothing to do with their firmware deliberately breaking Linux | Oct 15 12:06 |
| mjg59_ | They'd just literally never tested it | Oct 15 12:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | oops | Oct 15 12:06 |
| mjg59_ | They fixed their firmware, I fixed Linux | Oct 15 12:06 |
| techrights-news | Pace of growth of debt in large EU/UK/American economies compared https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/14/national-public-debt-curves-compared-uk-vs-france-germany-italy-and-us/ | Oct 15 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » National (Public) Debt Curves Compared: UK vs France, Germany, Italy, and US | Oct 15 12:07 | |
| mjg59_ | So new firmware worked with old Linux, new Linux worked with old firmware | Oct 15 12:07 |
| mjg59_ | I still have that motherboard somewhere | Oct 15 12:07 |
| mjg59_ | (Foxconn sent me one to fix it) | Oct 15 12:07 |
| mjg59_ | Ryan responded to this by using a web service to sign me up to several hundred mailing lists | Oct 15 12:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | lol | Oct 15 12:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | now i understand how this all ties together | Oct 15 12:08 |
| techrights-news | US: where a company that makes LOSSES can CLAIM to be worth TRILLIONS | Oct 15 12:08 |
| mjg59_ | Which I tracked back to a teenager in Canda who was running the website off his cable modem connection because some people he knew on IRC had convinced him it'd be cool | Oct 15 12:09 |
| mjg59_ | I threatened to call his parents and he handed over the IP logs | Oct 15 12:09 |
| starstreak | lol | Oct 15 12:09 |
| mjg59_ | And it matched Ryan's IRC IP | Oct 15 12:09 |
| mjg59_ | (this was 2008, so most ircds still showed the actual hostname or IP) | Oct 15 12:10 |
| starstreak | thats why daemonfc hates you? | Oct 15 12:10 |
| mjg59_ | I found the kid's email address because he'd advertised the quake server he was running on a forum, and his username was tied to an email address | Oct 15 12:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | no, dfc hates him because hes black and likes people who are trans | Oct 15 12:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | (technically hes irish but thats even worse) | Oct 15 12:11 |
| mjg59_ | I'm actually about as white as it's possible to be without being albino, but | Oct 15 12:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah but who ever heard of "irish privilege" | Oct 15 12:12 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway yeah Ryan hates me because I made him look bad in 2008 | Oct 15 12:12 |
| mjg59_ | Oh ha yeah I forgot that Ryan then signed *himself* up with the spam service to pretend he was also attacked, but did so with a gmail address that wasn't the one he was using | Oct 15 12:14 |
| mjg59_ | And then when he blogged about how he was also a victim, he deleted the comment where I pointed that out | Oct 15 12:14 |
| mjg59_ | https://mjg59.livejournal.com/97535.html | Oct 15 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.livejournal.com | What amuses me about complaints about censorship is that they often…: mjg59 — LiveJournal | Oct 15 12:14 | |
| reptilian_thrills | this channel is like every scene of b5 with gkar and londo, except on the set of days of our lives | Oct 15 12:15 |
| mjg59_ | I wouldn't actually hold a grudge about that except he still denies it | Oct 15 12:15 |
| mjg59_ | I mean maybe this is all about Ryan actually wanting to fuck me? It doesn't seem like that, though | Oct 15 12:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont think your his type | Oct 15 12:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | e | Oct 15 12:17 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah I don't get that impression | Oct 15 12:17 |
| mjg59_ | It's not an unrequited lust situation | Oct 15 12:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | i did join as ship_roy_and_mjg though | Oct 15 12:17 |
| mjg59_ | Awh he fell off so he's not going to see this and respond | Oct 15 12:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | because the tension is ridiculous! | Oct 15 12:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | even the golden gate bridge is like "damn!" | Oct 15 12:18 |
| mjg59_ | I do understand the perception there | Oct 15 12:18 |
| techrights-news | "When there is a version upgrade, the 'init' script in the initrd creates a snapshot of the /mnt/wkg/.session folder as a 'rw-*.sfs' file. For example, when upgraded to Easy 4.4.1, /mnt/wkg/releases/easy-4.4.1/rw-4.4.1.sfs got created." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/cache-folders-excluded-from-snapshots.html | Oct 15 12:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | however, i dont think you have any "misplaced" feelings for roy | Oct 15 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Cache folders excluded from snapshots | Oct 15 12:19 | |
| reptilian_thrills | as for roy, i mean hes one giant mystery, cant tell you what he really thinks | Oct 15 12:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 12:20 |
| techrights-news | This patch was FAST https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/166581519416722@kroah.com/ | Oct 15 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | Linux 6.0.2 - Greg Kroah-Hartman | Oct 15 12:22 | |
| mjg59_ | I can certainly attest to having no romantic or sexual feelings for roy | Oct 15 12:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: it's purely about 'secure boot' originally | Oct 15 12:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then, years later, the attacks on LT and then RMS | Oct 15 12:23 |
| mjg59_ | Oh wow I'd forgotten that Ryan explicitly accused me of signing him up for Spamza | Oct 15 12:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | and poor mr tso | Oct 15 12:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | who seems alright to me | Oct 15 12:24 |
| mjg59_ | I think he was brutally wrong on one particular point, and I make no claim about that affecting any other aspect of his communication or behaviour | Oct 15 12:26 |
| mjg59_ | Also haha https://mjg59.livejournal.com/96848.html | Oct 15 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.livejournal.com | To the lovely person who subscribed me to around 200 mailing lists…: mjg59 — LiveJournal | Oct 15 12:26 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux Fixes WLAN Flaw ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Linux_Fixes_WLAN_Flaw.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Linux_Fixes_WLAN_Flaw.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Linux Fixes WLAN Flaw | Oct 15 12:27 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | oooh, the cards have arrived with new PIN codes | Oct 15 12:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | on monday we'll carry about 2k pounds in coins/loose change | Oct 15 12:27 |
| mjg59_ | Awh the forum post isn't on the internet archive | Oct 15 12:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like going to the arcade | Oct 15 12:28 |
| techrights-news | "Trekarta is released as an open source Libre project under the GPL-3.0 License." https://medevel.com/trekarta/ | Oct 15 12:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Trekarta Is an Open Source App for Hiking, Cycling, and Off-road Activities | Oct 15 12:29 | |
| techrights-news | delete chromeos and install GNU/Linux https://www.addictivetips.com/chromebook/how-to-use-alternate-browsers-on-your-chromebook/ | Oct 15 12:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/chromebook/how-to-use-alternate-browsers-on-your-chromebook/ ) | Oct 15 12:29 | |
| techrights-news | 5 Best Digital Wallet Apps for Android to Use on 2022 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-digital-wallet-apps-for-android/ | Oct 15 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | 5 Best Digital Wallet Apps for Android to Use on 2022 | Oct 15 12:30 | |
| techrights-news | Openwashing and pro-software patents cartel are not the solution to this problem https://www.zdnet.com/finance/fintech-giant-the-clearing-house-joins-open-source-patent-protection-powerhouse-oin/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Oct 15 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fintech giant The Clearing House joins open-source patent protection powerhouse OIN | ZDNET | Oct 15 12:31 | |
| techrights-news | NASA’s aircraft will elevate the hunt for critical minerals in the US - The Verge ⚓ https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/3/23384988/nasa-usgs-map-critical-minerals-southwest-us-clean-energy ䷉ Source: The Verge | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theverge.com/2022/10/3/23384988/nasa-usgs-map-critical-minerals-southwest-us-clean-energy | Oct 15 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | NASA’s aircraft will elevate the hunt for critical minerals in the US - The Verge | Oct 15 12:33 | |
| techrights-news | Espionage painted as "SECURITY!!" Metaverse LOLs. https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/10/metaverse-safety-week.html | Oct 15 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eponymouspickle.blogspot.com | The Eponymous Pickle: Metaverse Safety Week Event | Oct 15 12:33 | |
| techrights-news | EU chat control negotiations kick off: Commissioner Johansson defends controversial surveillance law before LIBE committee - Patrick Breyer ⚓ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-chat-control-negotiations-kick-off-commissioner-johansson-defends-controversial-surveillance-law-before-libe-committee/ ䷉ Source: Patrick Breyer | Oct 15 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | EU chat control negotiations kick off: Commissioner Johansson defends controversial surveillance law before LIBE committee – Patrick Breyer | Oct 15 12:34 | |
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| techrights-news | eBPF File Watching ⚓ https://matt-rickard.com/ebpf-file-watching ䷉ Source: Matt Rickard | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//matt-rickard.com/ebpf-file-watching | Oct 15 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | eBPF File Watching | Oct 15 12:35 | |
| techrights-news | Why Is NixOS Popular Again? https://matt-rickard.com/why-is-nixos-popular-again | Oct 15 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Why Is NixOS Popular Again? | Oct 15 12:36 | |
| techrights-news | The Old Computer Challenge 2022 https://box.matto.nl/the-old-computer-challenge-2022.html | Oct 15 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Old Computer Challenge 2022 - box.matto.nl | Oct 15 12:37 | |
| techrights-news | "My plan was to draw one or two sprites for each industry type; tea tree farm, tea factory, tea house. If I had settled for that you'd probably be able to play with that mod right now." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-10-10-21-hours.html | Oct 15 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-warmedal.se | 21 Hours - Björn Wärmedal | Oct 15 12:38 | |
| techrights-news | Limine version 3.20221014.1 compiled in OE https://bkhome.org/news/202210/limine-version-3202210141-compiled-in-oe.html | Oct 15 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Limine version 3.20221014.1 compiled in OE | Oct 15 12:40 | |
| techrights-news | "After a few busy and stressful months, I decided to set aside October to rest. Of course, for me, rest does not mean a cessation of programming, but rather a shift in priorities towards more fun and experimental projects. Consequently, it has been a great month for Helios!" https://drewdevault.com/2022/10/15/Status-update-October-2022.html | Oct 15 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | Status update, October 2022 | Oct 15 12:40 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▅▆▄▅▆▁▅▂▄▆▂▅▃▂▃▁▂▁▄▆▄▅▄▅▇▅▅▅▄▅▆▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 21.55 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂█▁▃▁██▁█▁▁█▁▇█▁▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 124.71▕ swarm size (avg): 107.80 ⟲ | Oct 15 12:59 |
| techrights-news | Self-Referential Fame: Famous for Claiming to Be Famous ⚓ https://tedium.co/2022/10/14/self-referential-fame-history/ ䷉ Source: Tedium | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tedium.co/2022/10/14/self-referential-fame-history/ | Oct 15 13:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Self-Referential Fame: Famous for Claiming to Be Famous | Oct 15 13:00 | |
| techrights-news | "Both Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09 and Plasma 5.26 have now hit Manjaro ARMs unstable branch, so it's time to get some testing in before it gets to stable branch." https://blog.strits.dk/plasma-5-26-and-plasma-mobile-gear-22-09/ | Oct 15 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.strits.dk | Plasma 5.26 and Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09 in Manjaro ARM | Oct 15 13:01 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 13:20 |
| MinceR | https://i.ibb.co/Fs4KPVc/311666518-547216697405301-3257991382648606889-n.jpg | Oct 15 13:37 |
| MinceR | nvm | Oct 15 13:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ha | Oct 15 13:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | probably a home with kids of something | Oct 15 13:40 |
| techrights-news | "I've been working with and on container technology for seven years, but I still learn new things every day." https://jmtd.net/log/podman_generate/ | Oct 15 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd → log → podman generate | Oct 15 13:41 | |
| MinceR | the work laptop lets me experience what "modern" and "ready for the desktop" are like | Oct 15 13:41 |
| techrights-news | Windows has BACK DOORS. Never ever use a password manager on Windows, no matter what software runs on it. https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/manage-your-passwords-on-windows-with-buttercup/ | Oct 15 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/manage-your-passwords-on-windows-with-buttercup/ ) | Oct 15 13:41 | |
| MinceR | today it froze solid while resuming from hibernation | Oct 15 13:41 |
| *KiKi (~KiKi@wsiybfsi67r84.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 15 13:41 | |
| MinceR | then it rebooted again | Oct 15 13:41 |
| MinceR | i'm sure dehomag and MICROS~1 can implement both of these things in Gnome OS | Oct 15 13:42 |
| MinceR | the audio stack being a useless pile of shit is probably already there thanks to poetteringaudio | Oct 15 13:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | fedora ambassador: lol, buy a new pc, neckbeard | Oct 15 13:44 |
| MinceR | tell my employer to replace that laptop, then | Oct 15 13:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | :-) | Oct 15 13:45 |
| MinceR | it's out of my hands :) | Oct 15 13:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | russian ambassar: get out of ukraine then | Oct 15 13:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (to ukrainians) | Oct 15 13:45 |
| MinceR | no u | Oct 15 13:45 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Oct 15 13:46 | |
| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] sched/psi changes for v6.1 ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Y0krqnKlHb%2Fgp9Za@gmail.com/T/#u ䷉ Source: kernel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/Y0krqnKlHb%2Fgp9Za@gmail.com/T/#u | Oct 15 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] sched/psi changes for v6.1 | Oct 15 13:47 | |
| techrights-news | Pulse Sensor with Raspberry PI Pico: Hearth Beat Chech with MicroPython ⚓ https://peppe8o.com/pulse-sensor-with-raspberry-pi-pico-hearth-beat-chech-with-micropython/ ䷉ Source: peppe8o | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peppe8o.com/pulse-sensor-with-raspberry-pi-pico-hearth-beat-chech-with-micropython/ | Oct 15 13:48 |
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| techrights-news | 6 Top Free and Open Source Rust Web Micro-Frameworks - LinuxLinks ⚓ https://www.linuxlinks.com/free-open-source-rust-web-micro-frameworks/ ䷉ Source: Linux Links | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/free-open-source-rust-web-micro-frameworks/ | Oct 15 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 Top Free and Open Source Rust Web Micro-Frameworks - LinuxLinks | Oct 15 13:49 | |
| techrights-news | "In my quest to build my Offline-First typewriter, I’m developing Offpunk, an offline-first, command-line based Gemini client (forked from AV-98 by Solderpunk)." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/ | Oct 15 13:50 |
| MinceR | (nsfw) https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/kiddickman.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-kiddickman#comic ) | Oct 15 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Oct 15 14:02 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | [bill gates clicks] | Oct 15 14:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no... | Oct 15 14:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [rick allen jones clicks] | Oct 15 14:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [and saves to portable disk] | Oct 15 14:15 |
| MinceR | (dog) https://i.ibb.co/JRQ3V6g/unknown-133.png | Oct 15 14:17 |
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| whitenigga | hey dawgs | Oct 15 16:17 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 16:20 |
| starstreak | linucks btw | Oct 15 16:33 |
| whitenigga | linucks? | Oct 15 16:34 |
| starstreak | linux is pronounced "linucks" | Oct 15 16:36 |
| whitenigga | lol dawg | Oct 15 16:39 |
| starstreak | attack surface 😇 | Oct 15 16:43 |
| starstreak | there should be an easier way to insert emojis | Oct 15 16:43 |
| starstreak | i have to copy pasta them | Oct 15 16:43 |
| whitenigga | starstreak: dawg, im surprised im seeing them. im on a terminal and irssi | Oct 15 16:45 |
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| starstreak | unicode btw | Oct 15 16:52 |
| schestowitz | LKML: "Michael S. Tsirkin": [GIT PULL] virtio: fixes, features ⚓ https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/10/774 ䷉ Source: uni Indiana | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/10/774 | Oct 15 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: "Michael S. Tsirkin": [GIT PULL] virtio: fixes, features | Oct 15 16:55 | |
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| techrights-news | GINYSTR Wordo: PUFFY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-15.gmi | Oct 15 16:57 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Sparky 2022.10 Special Editions ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Sparky_2022_10_Special_Editions.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Sparky_2022_10_Special_Editions.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Sparky 2022.10 Special Editions | Oct 15 16:57 | |
| whitenigga | https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/tech/apple-store-union-oklahoma/index.html | Oct 15 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Workers at second Apple store vote to join union | CNN Business | Oct 15 16:58 | |
| techrights-news | LKML: "Michael S. Tsirkin": [GIT PULL] virtio: fixes, features ⚓ https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/10/774 ䷉ Source: uni Indiana | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/10/774 | Oct 15 16:58 |
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| starstreak | https://www.businessinsider.com/equifax-fires-employees-for-working-two-jobs-2022-10 | Oct 15 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Equifax Fires Employees for Working Two Jobs | Oct 15 17:00 | |
| techrights-news | Fake 'rich' people (or people deep in debt) like to openly brag that they are "rich" as long as that lasts (the pretence is all they have going for them). Rich people tend to keep more quiet about it. There are exceptions to all this, but in "modern society" it has become prevalent. | Oct 15 17:10 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 17:20 |
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| psydruid | Corporations trying to control people in an era in which those very same corporations are obsolete | Oct 15 17:43 |
| psydruid | "Rich" people can have as many "jobs" as they want but employees must be owned 100% of the time | Oct 15 17:43 |
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| reptilian_thrills | gee tee kay, or as i call it, jitik | Oct 15 17:58 |
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| reptilian_thrills | jitik is part of the TROLL desktop | Oct 15 17:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | theres a fork called mate, which stands for "mate is your mate, but troll just wants to bend you over" | Oct 15 17:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre waiting for enough people to like troll, then theyll scrap it and make it worse | Oct 15 18:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | then when people who liked it are sad, theyll call them neckbeards which isnt racist | Oct 15 18:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | troll 3 is more than a decade old, troll 5 is better, it only needs 12 cores | Oct 15 18:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | (troll doesnt actually needs lots of cores, it likes ram though) | Oct 15 18:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | alternatively troll will just become the desktop environment in systemd | Oct 15 18:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | systemd-trolld | Oct 15 18:04 |
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| starstreak | linucks btw :D | Oct 15 18:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | systemd-linucksd | Oct 15 18:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | roy told me yesterday, i might end up with bsd/alpine | Oct 15 18:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | i told him i can think of worse things | Oct 15 18:08 |
| starstreak | did openbsd put code on github? | Oct 15 18:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | openbsd has a mirror-- funnily enough, i once thought openbsd was on github | Oct 15 18:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | someone said "thats just a mirror" and i checked, and they were right | Oct 15 18:09 |
| starstreak | ahh like haiku | Oct 15 18:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | this was before wesley snipes (and before i switched to bsd) | Oct 15 18:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | like haiku | Oct 15 18:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | <- exactly like haiku, except | Oct 15 18:09 |
| starstreak | gnome is hosted on gitlab | Oct 15 18:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | with openbsd i had trusted wikipedia. this was back when my github radar was very new and unsophisticated | Oct 15 18:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | yes, troll is hosted on gitlab | Oct 15 18:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | after someone pointed out that openbsd was on github i audited my entire list of like 100 or so items | Oct 15 18:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | by hand | Oct 15 18:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | i found like 3 or maybe 4 items that were mirrors or otherwise a mistake | Oct 15 18:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | so it was pretty accurate but more accuracy is better | Oct 15 18:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | with haiku i simply remembered a project being github based because they had a repo there | Oct 15 18:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its a true mirror, and i dont count those. anybody can copy a freesw project to a mirror | Oct 15 18:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | and people frequently do | Oct 15 18:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | everything written in perl is under a perl license | Oct 15 18:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | but there is no perl license | Oct 15 18:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | isnt that weird | Oct 15 18:16 |
| starstreak | everyone who uses perl is mentally handicapped anyway | Oct 15 18:16 |
| starstreak | thats probably why | Oct 15 18:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | everyone who uses perl is mentally handicapped anyway <- autistic lesbians can say that | Oct 15 18:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | at least irish autistic lesbians can | Oct 15 18:17 |
| starstreak | 😇 | Oct 15 18:17 |
| starstreak | did your irc client process that emoji? | Oct 15 18:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | nice hat | Oct 15 18:18 |
| starstreak | its a halo | Oct 15 18:18 |
| starstreak | im an angel | Oct 15 18:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | id sooner believe its a hat :) | Oct 15 18:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me has a halo too O:) | Oct 15 18:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | though from here it looks a bit like a mike and ike | Oct 15 18:19 |
| starstreak | 🥳 | Oct 15 18:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | i should probably say mike and icke | Oct 15 18:19 |
| starstreak | icke <3 | Oct 15 18:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-14.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Oct 15 18:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rD5He3U-te0 | Oct 15 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Trip Through Your Wires (Remastered 2007) - Invidious | Oct 15 18:20 | |
| starstreak | 🫠 | Oct 15 18:20 |
| starstreak | i have to copy and paste these from a website lol | Oct 15 18:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | not me | Oct 15 18:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | 🥳 | Oct 15 18:21 |
| starstreak | thank god for unicode | Oct 15 18:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | thank god for unicode <- im more likely to worship satan than thank god for unicode | Oct 15 18:21 |
| starstreak | whats wrong with worshipping Satan? | Oct 15 18:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course theres very little difference, unicode is digital satanism | Oct 15 18:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | whats wrong with worshipping Satan <- i dunno, it makes the baby jesus cry | Oct 15 18:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | so does unicode | Oct 15 18:22 |
| starstreak | Satan is a badass | Oct 15 18:22 |
| starstreak | the first rebel | Oct 15 18:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | if you like satan you should probably like dfc too | Oct 15 18:22 |
| starstreak | nah | Oct 15 18:23 |
| starstreak | satan doesn't even like nazis | Oct 15 18:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | ha | Oct 15 18:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | fair point | Oct 15 18:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | the first rebel <- does he have a flag | Oct 15 18:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | id ask if he was alt-right but you were inb4 ben shapiro | Oct 15 18:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | theres just one problem, ben! whos gonna worship alt-right satan, aquaman? | Oct 15 18:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me pictures aquaman doing a black mass | Oct 15 18:24 |
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| starstreak | nazi furries: https://i.imgur.com/X0Rgogr.jpeg | Oct 15 18:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | i had a bartender once who was wearing a shirt that said "angel or devil?" | Oct 15 18:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | which i thought was a great shirt for a bartender because of the song | Oct 15 18:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | "angel or devil, i was thirsty, and you wet my lips" | Oct 15 18:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | bono is a guilty pleasure. hes the jersey short of musicians | Oct 15 18:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | shore | Oct 15 18:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | jersey short is a remake with just little people | Oct 15 18:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | its like the wizard of oz but mafia | Oct 15 18:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me is going to get a horse head on his pillow | Oct 15 18:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | or a pony. | Oct 15 18:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | jersey short is a remake with just little people <- peter dinklage plays ronnie | Oct 15 18:30 |
| whitenigga | midgets are hot dawg | Oct 15 18:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6_W_xLWtNa0 | Oct 15 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Shy Ronnie 2: Ronnie & Clyde (feat. Rihanna) - Invidious | Oct 15 18:32 | |
| whitenigga | there is this hot female midget at my grocery store | Oct 15 18:32 |
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| whitenigga | i dont have the confidence to ask her out | Oct 15 18:33 |
| whitenigga | i'd love to bang a midget | Oct 15 18:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | midget bangerz #11 | Oct 15 18:33 |
| whitenigga | pornhub has quite a lot of midget videos | Oct 15 18:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | but when i look for them there i alwaye come up short | Oct 15 18:34 |
| whitenigga | LOL | Oct 15 18:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | rihanna should wear that every day | Oct 15 18:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | in fact she should give up music (not that shes terrible by any means) and just rob banks, that would be awesome | Oct 15 18:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | if i was a bank id give her all my money | Oct 15 18:35 |
| whitenigga | i wouldn't even press the robbery button | Oct 15 18:35 |
| whitenigga | no dye packs for her either | Oct 15 18:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | HAHAAAAAAAA! | Oct 15 18:37 |
| *starstreak vapes and blows a cloud of smoke into the channel | Oct 15 18:37 | |
| whitenigga | i can't get enough of that midget booty | Oct 15 18:38 |
| whitenigga | mmmmmmmmmm | Oct 15 18:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | TOODALOOOO | Oct 15 18:38 |
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| starstreak | i use arch linux btw | Oct 15 18:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | linucks | Oct 15 18:39 |
| starstreak | attack surface <3 | Oct 15 18:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | phanes is here for jersey short | Oct 15 18:39 |
| *whitenigga imagines slapping the booty of a midget | Oct 15 18:39 | |
| whitenigga | lord have mercy | Oct 15 18:39 |
| *phanes starts placing bets on how many packages he's installed from "reputable repos" that ended up being malware | Oct 15 18:40 | |
| phanes | re: arch linux | Oct 15 18:40 |
| starstreak | im a she | Oct 15 18:40 |
| phanes | whatever | Oct 15 18:40 |
| starstreak | i got a picture of phanes hanging out with his friends: https://i.imgur.com/X0Rgogr.jpeg | Oct 15 18:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me thought phanes was referring to himself | Oct 15 18:41 |
| phanes | why is it always nazis with you people | Oct 15 18:41 |
| whitenigga | lol starstreak, thats cooooold blooded | Oct 15 18:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | and only one of them is a wolf? | Oct 15 18:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | why is it always nazis with you people <- because mike godwin is dead | Oct 15 18:42 |
| whitenigga | godwin's law doesn't apply anymore because of all the actual nazis | Oct 15 18:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | <starstreak> i got a picture of phanes hanging out with his friends: https://i.imgur.com/X0Rgogr.jpeg <- wait, this isnt the KISS reunion tour | Oct 15 18:43 |
| phanes | godwin's law doesn't apply because godwin was only attached to the center of human consciousness while he was alive and when he died we lost memes | Oct 15 18:43 |
| phanes | forever | Oct 15 18:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | simmons: i support invading every middle eastern country EXCEPT israel of course | Oct 15 18:44 |
| phanes | all people do is produce cheap rebrands of prior existing memes hoping to recreate the magic but we're really all just passing around the corpses of memes | Oct 15 18:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | all people do is produce cheap rebrands of prior existing memes hoping to recreate the magic <- not me, im years behind on this shit | Oct 15 18:44 |
| whitenigga | sounds like phanes is a nerd dawg | Oct 15 18:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | i just discovered OPPALANCE OPPALANCE like 2 days ago | Oct 15 18:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | i say it walking down the street waving my arms around | Oct 15 18:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | "you own everthing!" | Oct 15 18:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me is the meme equivalent of anne hathaway in devil wears prada wearing a bargain bin shirt that meryl streep put at the forefront years before | Oct 15 18:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | i just discovered hawaiian shirts are a thing | Oct 15 18:48 |
| phanes | thats because you live in a cave | Oct 15 18:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | close enough, ive never been on the internets | Oct 15 18:48 |
| starstreak | thats because he uses openbsd | Oct 15 18:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | rofl | Oct 15 18:48 |
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| reptilian_thrills | thats because he uses openbsd <- hey i had to wait for a driver for my nic ok | Oct 15 18:49 |
| phanes | lol | Oct 15 18:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | i spent a decade or so trying to get wireless to gave up and then i discovered ethernet | Oct 15 18:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | to be fair part of that was in freebsd | Oct 15 18:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me checks to make sure the coax on his network card isnt loose | Oct 15 18:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | i was using a null modem cable on rs232 but it turns out thats pretty slow | Oct 15 18:51 |
| phanes | honestly freebsd is a fine system for personal use or even server use if you don't try to scale out | Oct 15 18:53 |
| phanes | linux is in the process of being hijacked | Oct 15 18:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> linux is in the process of being hijacked <- thats why i bailed | Oct 15 18:54 |
| MinceR | if you don't mind the CoC, the MICROS~1 and crApple influence, and the community being mostly Backdoors and crapOS users desperately looking for some street cred | Oct 15 18:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | if i thought i could stop this by staying with penguinshit i would stick around longer | Oct 15 18:54 |
| MinceR | FreeBSD was hijacked before Linux was | Oct 15 18:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | FreeBSD was hijacked before Linux was <- howso | Oct 15 18:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=16na-CG5skA | Oct 15 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Penguin poops on friend - Invidious | Oct 15 18:55 | |
| MinceR | 15 195436 < reptilian_thrills> FreeBSD was hijacked before Linux was <- howso | Oct 15 18:55 |
| MinceR | MICROS~1 and crApple influence, then they forced a CoC on the project | Oct 15 18:55 |
| phanes | its not just the CoC | Oct 15 18:56 |
| phanes | the CoC is a strategic resource placement and PR tool | Oct 15 18:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | fwiw i believe they dialed down the coc to remove the worst bullshit | Oct 15 18:56 |
| MinceR | yeah, for the occupying corporations | Oct 15 18:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | this isnt a pro-coc stance | Oct 15 18:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | but they also develop their package management on github | Oct 15 18:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | of freebsd and netbsd and openbsd, freebsd is the most github-entrenched | Oct 15 18:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | roy implied they were considering leaving, which may be true, but i doubt they ever left | Oct 15 18:57 |
| MinceR | a standard CoC lists comfortable excuses for removing people the corporate overlords don't like from the project and assigns the power to do so to a specific group of suits | Oct 15 18:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | a standard CoC lists comfortable excuses for removing people the corporate overlords don't like from the project and assigns the power to do so to a specific group of suits <- this is the general problem with cocs | Oct 15 18:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | they exist for one alleged purpose and are invariably used to cancel people who make trouble for corporations | Oct 15 18:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | tso, stallman, appelbaum | Oct 15 18:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | it turns out the progressive side of the tech industry consists entirely of people who have violated mjgs partner in some fashion | Oct 15 18:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | which im not saying didnt happen | Oct 15 18:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | but thats pretty bizarre | Oct 15 18:58 |
| MinceR | i don't even know what "progressive" means | Oct 15 18:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats why youre miserable and cynical and misanthropic | Oct 15 18:59 |
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| reptilian_thrills | but, it may be the other way around-- you might be those things BECAUSE you dont know what progressive means | Oct 15 18:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | wait, i said that already | Oct 15 18:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | anyway, strike that, reverse it | Oct 15 18:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | actually its because youre an anarchist | Oct 15 19:00 |
| MinceR | sounds like "progressive" means "delusional" | Oct 15 19:00 |
| whitenigga | yo dawg thats pretty harsh | Oct 15 19:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | whcih is a perfectly reasonable thing to be in theory | Oct 15 19:00 |
| *phanes puts on some progressive rock | Oct 15 19:01 | |
| *starstreak runs an age detection algorithm | Oct 15 19:01 | |
| reptilian_thrills | but in practice it means "lets fix the world OOH SHINY THINGS-- HEY EVERYBODY STONE HIM, HE SAID RACIST THINGS ABOUT JEHOVAH!" | Oct 15 19:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | "now look, just because i said racist things about jehovah..." *everybody throws rocks* | Oct 15 19:01 |
| *starstreak reads the screen, it has determined that phanes is in fact a boomer | Oct 15 19:01 | |
| phanes | im only 37 | Oct 15 19:01 |
| starstreak | why do you act like a boomer? | Oct 15 19:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me met a guy who is only 37 the other day, it must be phanes | Oct 15 19:02 |
| starstreak | what kind of millenial listens to progressive rock | Oct 15 19:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | what kind of millenial listens to progressive rock <- lol :D | Oct 15 19:02 |
| phanes | my gen is xennials | Oct 15 19:02 |
| phanes | we're kind of between the Xers and the Mers | Oct 15 19:02 |
| starstreak | fair enough | Oct 15 19:03 |
| phanes | we watched it all grow up | Oct 15 19:03 |
| phanes | you guys just use the shit we built | Oct 15 19:03 |
| starstreak | im the same age tho and i like shit like rap, pop and synthwave | Oct 15 19:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> you guys just use the shit we built <- ok THATS boomer talk right there | Oct 15 19:03 |
| starstreak | im also 37 | Oct 15 19:03 |
| phanes | eh? use anything that doesn't rest on the C layer of your OS lately? | Oct 15 19:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | hell thats the boomer santa song that chevy sang in community | Oct 15 19:04 |
| starstreak | i use arch/systemd/gnome btw | Oct 15 19:04 |
| phanes | cue the shitposting about how rust and go have really made viable foundational progress despite having never breached the niche wall | Oct 15 19:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | baby boomer santa! i give you the WORLD! | Oct 15 19:04 |
| starstreak | go is fun | Oct 15 19:04 |
| phanes | or having formed a standard with which the language can evolve | Oct 15 19:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> you guys just use the shit we built https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OOSOGB406Ec | Oct 15 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Baby Boomer Santa | Community - Invidious | Oct 15 19:05 | |
| phanes | you guys are making toy cabins out of boomer poop while whining about boomers | Oct 15 19:05 |
| phanes | know any mellinials who are building viable kernels? | Oct 15 19:05 |
| phanes | at this point we have the highest hopes for your kids | Oct 15 19:06 |
| phanes | maybe their kids | Oct 15 19:06 |
| starstreak | theres probably a lot of millenials working on linux | Oct 15 19:06 |
| phanes | boomer poop | Oct 15 19:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | "your generation INVENTED music!" | Oct 15 19:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | "i dunno about invented... perfected maybe" | Oct 15 19:06 |
| starstreak | haiku os | Oct 15 19:07 |
| phanes | we spat out a generation of emotionally fragile, broken identities that can't focus on anything long enough to earn the status they cry-scream demands to be given | Oct 15 19:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | "santa fought at woodstock, and vietnam, and smoked a tonne of acid..." | Oct 15 19:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | we spat out a generation of emotionally fragile, broken identities <- thats mostly the an-coms though | Oct 15 19:07 |
| phanes | ive put up with shit on the reg since the 90s that would break most of y'all lol | Oct 15 19:08 |
| starstreak | reptilian_thrills, whats wrong with anarchy | Oct 15 19:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dunno man i grew up being tortured and terrorised on a daily basis | Oct 15 19:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | reptilian_thrills, whats wrong with anarchy <- nothing actually | Oct 15 19:08 |
| starstreak | down with tankies | Oct 15 19:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | down with tankies <- if only | Oct 15 19:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | but an-coms are into friendly fire, they always miss the tankies. | Oct 15 19:09 |
| starstreak | centrists are the worst tho | Oct 15 19:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | "hey guys, look, tankies" "hold on, let me reload i just pumped 8 magazines into my comrades" | Oct 15 19:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | yes everyone should work together to destroy the centrists | Oct 15 19:10 |
| phanes | centrists are fine | Oct 15 19:10 |
| starstreak | What do we want!? Wall! When do we want it? Wall! | Oct 15 19:10 |
| phanes | you can't get rid of the normies | Oct 15 19:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | <starstreak> What do we want!? Wall! When do we want it? Wall! <- maybe he save perl (just kidding) | Oct 15 19:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> you can't get rid of the normies <- we can frame them for hate crimes | Oct 15 19:11 |
| starstreak | lol no reptilian_thrills | Oct 15 19:11 |
| starstreak | i got the best idea | Oct 15 19:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | tso is innocent | Oct 15 19:11 |
| phanes | yeah but that'll break your own credibility and end your ability to shape society any further | Oct 15 19:11 |
| phanes | which is notably nonexistent but still | Oct 15 19:11 |
| starstreak | once the revolution is over, the centrists will participate in the first annual hunger games | Oct 15 19:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> yeah but that'll break your own credibility and end your ability to shape society any further <- thats exactly what it does, yes | Oct 15 19:11 |
| phanes | keep your options opoen | Oct 15 19:11 |
| phanes | *open | Oct 15 19:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | #techrights : 10/15/22 18:11 <reptilian_thrills> <phanes> yeah but that'll break your own credibility and end your ability to shape society any further <- im only humourously endorsing what has already happened | Oct 15 19:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | in protest | Oct 15 19:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | but the more i humourously endorse it the more i outline whats stupid about it in fine detail | Oct 15 19:13 |
| phanes | the reason these stains shit their pants when i get roped in is because i never compromise my morality, which is known to involve a striving for truth | Oct 15 19:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | for example: <phanes> yeah but that'll break your own credibility and end your ability to shape society any further <- thats exactly what it does, yes | Oct 15 19:13 |
| phanes | it doesn't sound like much but imagine if all their adversaries did that | Oct 15 19:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> the reason these stains shit their pants when i get roped in is because i never compromise my morality, which is known to involve a striving for truth <- and thats why starstreak mistook me for you | Oct 15 19:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont. she did. | Oct 15 19:13 |
| phanes | no you are a crazy flat earth lizard-people conspiracy theorist | Oct 15 19:14 |
| phanes | in your case you should lie about that | Oct 15 19:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> no you are a crazy flat earth lizard-people conspiracy theorist <- crazy perhaps. flat earth no. lizard people (nicks aside) no. youre confusing me with starstreak. | Oct 15 19:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | <- not an icke guy | Oct 15 19:14 |
| phanes | one of the first things people who oppose truth-lovers do is try to paint them as crazy because they know they won't win the battle of convincing people that they are lying | Oct 15 19:14 |
| starstreak | earth isn't flat | Oct 15 19:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> one of the first things people who oppose truth-lovers do is try to paint them as crazy because they know they won't win the battle of convincing people that they are lying <- and yet ive agreed with every point youve made about cocs and cancel culture | Oct 15 19:15 |
| starstreak | "<phanes> one of the first things people who oppose truth-lovers do is try to paint them as crazy because they know they won't win the battle of convincing people that they are lying" <- he says right after calling me crazy | Oct 15 19:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | he says right after calling me crazy <- thats true | Oct 15 19:16 |
| phanes | so if you spout out a bunch of shit about lizard people and underground cave-dwelling civilizations being hidden in a conspiracy, out of the gate you're reduced to either being crazy or a liar. you disqualify yourself from the struggles of civilization immediately with it. | Oct 15 19:16 |
| phanes | surely you know this already | Oct 15 19:16 |
| starstreak | i've done the research and it all points underground | Oct 15 19:16 |
| phanes | lol | Oct 15 19:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | if you spout out a bunch of shit about lizard people and underground cave-dwelling civilizations being hidden in a conspiracy <- and if i dont? | Oct 15 19:17 |
| starstreak | as above, so below | Oct 15 19:17 |
| phanes | that's not even close to what that phrase means starstreak | Oct 15 19:17 |
| starstreak | the phrase has multiple meanings | Oct 15 19:17 |
| phanes | yes and you know none of them | Oct 15 19:17 |
| starstreak | its masonic | Oct 15 19:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | also im not sure sanity is a prerequisite for fixing the world | Oct 15 19:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | youd have to be crazy to think its possible and crazier to try | Oct 15 19:18 |
| phanes | there are different kinds of crazy | Oct 15 19:18 |
| whitenigga | starstreak: you're one crazy nigga | Oct 15 19:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> there are different kinds of craz <- this is one of my theses | Oct 15 19:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | crazy isnt optional. theres only better kinds of crazy and worse kinds-- the key is to go for a better kind. | Oct 15 19:18 |
| starstreak | autizmophrenia | Oct 15 19:19 |
| starstreak | a combination of autism and schitzophrenia | Oct 15 19:19 |
| phanes | there's "i think we can make a positive impact on society" crazy and "I think sentient lizards control invisible reigns of human civilization in their unending war with underground neanderthals, because hollow earth" crazy, which comes with a whole bunch of other crazy as the mind disease worsens | Oct 15 19:19 |
| starstreak | thats the kind you want | Oct 15 19:19 |
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| starstreak | the moon is hollow too | Oct 15 19:20 |
| phanes | lol | Oct 15 19:20 |
| starstreak | its a space station | Oct 15 19:20 |
| starstreak | it mind controls the planet | Oct 15 19:20 |
| phanes | i really hope you're just joking and that you aren't this batshit crazy | Oct 15 19:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | <starstreak> autizmophrenia <- https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lpreoBdQ8cs | Oct 15 19:20 |
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| starstreak | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHuFSnhKG9I | Oct 15 19:21 |
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| starstreak | Autizmophrenia, the ultimate in neurodivergence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHuFSnhKG9I | Oct 15 19:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | high functioning autistics really only need the right circumstances lent to them for them to help save the world | Oct 15 19:23 |
| phanes | not really | Oct 15 19:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course you could replace "high functioning autistics" with quite a few other groups in that phrase | Oct 15 19:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> not really <- thats one hell of a refutation | Oct 15 19:23 |
| phanes | most high functioning autists would destroy everything theyve ever loved if they had an influence over anything | Oct 15 19:23 |
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| reptilian_thrills | if they had an influence <- influence comes in degrees | Oct 15 19:24 |
| starstreak | :( | Oct 15 19:24 |
| phanes | most high functioning neurotypicals would destroy everything they love too | Oct 15 19:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | your rhetoric implies they would be better off chained up to a wall | Oct 15 19:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course this is a false dichotomoy-- but thats exactly my point | Oct 15 19:24 |
| starstreak | im autistic | Oct 15 19:24 |
| phanes | not chained to a wall, just....not in charge | Oct 15 19:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> not chained to a wall, just....not in charge <- youre halfway there already | Oct 15 19:24 |
| phanes | im not autistic but alot of normies think i am | Oct 15 19:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | who should be in charge | Oct 15 19:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> im not autistic but alot of normies think i am <- too much credit | Oct 15 19:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | youre like a horseshoe theory normie-- so normie you seem like a savant | Oct 15 19:25 |
| phanes | maybe | Oct 15 19:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | "hes almost autistically normie" | Oct 15 19:25 |
| phanes | thing is though | Oct 15 19:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | <reptilian_thrills> who should be in charge | Oct 15 19:26 |
| phanes | i can go into /most/ areas that are dominated by HFAs | Oct 15 19:26 |
| phanes | and run circles around most of them | Oct 15 19:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> and run circles around most of them <- so can any narcissist | Oct 15 19:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | and while you dont yet strike me as a narcissist | Oct 15 19:26 |
| phanes | not quite a polymath, i can chase pretty much any endeavour of mind i want | Oct 15 19:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | some of your rhetoric is hard to explain any other way | Oct 15 19:26 |
| phanes | some attributes of narcissism are positive traits | Oct 15 19:27 |
| phanes | i haver studied them a great deal | Oct 15 19:27 |
| phanes | *have | Oct 15 19:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | i can chase pretty much any endeavour of mind i want <- sounds like grayden from what planet are you from | Oct 15 19:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | he has a highly evolved mind that can heal any wound | Oct 15 19:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | so john goodman shoots him in the head and he dies | Oct 15 19:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | "i always thought that heal any wound thing was bullshit"-- one of the aliens | Oct 15 19:28 |
| phanes | yeah if a divergence emerges that can do that, the immediate response would probably be to kill it tbh | Oct 15 19:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | missing the point that he was making it up | Oct 15 19:28 |
| phanes | ok | Oct 15 19:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | it was a bluff | Oct 15 19:29 |
| phanes | i mean | Oct 15 19:29 |
| phanes | i dont like | Oct 15 19:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | "dont bother attacking me, im invincible" | Oct 15 19:29 |
| phanes | need your validation man | Oct 15 19:29 |
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| MinceR | 15 200140 < reptilian_thrills> "now look, just because i said racist things about jehovah..." *everybody throws rocks* | Oct 15 19:31 |
| MinceR | Stop! Stop, will you?! Stop that! Stop it! Now, look! No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle! Do you understand?! Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say 'Jehovah'. | Oct 15 19:31 |
| phanes | lol | Oct 15 19:31 |
| MinceR | 15 200520 < phanes> you guys are making toy cabins out of boomer poop while whining about boomers | Oct 15 19:31 |
| MinceR | ew | Oct 15 19:31 |
| phanes | its true though lol | Oct 15 19:32 |
| MinceR | 15 201011 < reptilian_thrills> yes everyone should work together to destroy the centrists | Oct 15 19:32 |
| MinceR | don't worry, all of the human species are working on it | Oct 15 19:32 |
| phanes | they destroyed their kids but they built the world with scales that haven't been reproduced | Oct 15 19:32 |
| MinceR | all the humans will be destroyed. including the centrists. | Oct 15 19:33 |
| phanes | i wonder if they pull his internet connection on days he doesn't take his schizoid meds | Oct 15 19:34 |
| MinceR | whose | Oct 15 19:34 |
| phanes | whoever that nutjob i was just talking to is | Oct 15 19:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 15 19:35 |
| MinceR | no, he just comes and goes | Oct 15 19:35 |
| starstreak | reptilian_thrills is a nutjob? | Oct 15 19:35 |
| MinceR | he's one of the saner people here, afaict | Oct 15 19:35 |
| starstreak | i guess everyone is a nutjob | Oct 15 19:35 |
| phanes | sorry i might be confusing people. isn't he the lizard people one | Oct 15 19:35 |
| starstreak | he says im a nutjob | Oct 15 19:35 |
| starstreak | phanes, im the one with the conspiracy website | Oct 15 19:35 |
| Helenah | o.o | Oct 15 19:36 |
| phanes | oh, i misunderstood. i misattributed to someone else the batshit insanity that belongs to you. | Oct 15 19:36 |
| starstreak | phanes, https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/neanderthal-agenda.html | Oct 15 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org | Cerberus Investigations - The Neanderthal Agenda | Oct 15 19:36 | |
| phanes | im not clicking on that | Oct 15 19:36 |
| starstreak | reptilian_thrills is actually matey | Oct 15 19:37 |
| whitenigga | starstreak: dawg that shit is crazy yo | Oct 15 19:38 |
| MinceR | hi not clicking on that, i'm dad | Oct 15 19:38 |
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| reptilian_thrills | anyway its shallow ableist thinking that honestly belives hfas cant be in charge | Oct 15 19:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 15 19:38 |
| phanes | seems like i was reading an article a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away that people who believe they were abducted by aliens, believe in lizard people and all that are dealing wiht repressed traumatic events involving much more mundane circumstances that theyre not processing | Oct 15 19:38 |
| Helenah | https://files.catbox.moe/46lwn4.jpg | Oct 15 19:38 |
| MinceR | what's "hfas"? | Oct 15 19:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | it shows shallow thinking about hfas-- shallow thinking about what "in charge" means, and a shallow (selective) take on history | Oct 15 19:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | particularly of the free software movement. | Oct 15 19:39 |
| phanes | Helenah, is that a tumor? | Oct 15 19:39 |
| Helenah | phanes: Yep | Oct 15 19:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | phipps would sympathise but his thinking belongs in a prison camp | Oct 15 19:39 |
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| phanes | Helenah, dammit i was hoping you'd pull a schwarzeneggar ITS NOT A TUMAH | Oct 15 19:39 |
| phanes | sorry to hear that. malignant? | Oct 15 19:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 15 19:39 |
| Helenah | I put the green circle there to get people to focus on where they should be looking. | Oct 15 19:39 |
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| reptilian_thrills | mincer: high functioning autistics | Oct 15 19:39 |
| starstreak | welcome back reptilian_thrills | Oct 15 19:40 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 15 19:40 |
| Helenah | phanes: Maybe I'm not human but instead humanoid. :3 | Oct 15 19:40 |
| MinceR | i think no one should be in charge | Oct 15 19:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> i think no one should be in charge <- thats why i kept asking phanes who should be in charge | Oct 15 19:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | man dominates man to his own detriment | Oct 15 19:40 |
| phanes | reptilian_thrills, what is shallow thinking is the belief that humans don't align to sociopolitical hierarchies at an instinctual level with drivers that can't be overcome without destroying everyone | Oct 15 19:40 |
| MinceR | and i will have my way, but probably through a really painful process | Oct 15 19:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | but i dont think smashing archy is the answer | Oct 15 19:41 |
| MinceR | it will smash itself | Oct 15 19:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think archy is a bomb, and if you smash it we die | Oct 15 19:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | if you disarm it and then dismantle it, great. | Oct 15 19:41 |
| MinceR | and once all the humans are dead, none of them will be able to be in charge of anything or anyone | Oct 15 19:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> it will smash itself <- yeah but you dont care if we die | Oct 15 19:41 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: I'm an HFA. :3 | Oct 15 19:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | youve already accepted the worse option | Oct 15 19:41 |
| MinceR | i do care, but i don't have significant control over it | Oct 15 19:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | others would like to disarm and dismantle it | Oct 15 19:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> i do care <- ok but some people who care havent given up yet | Oct 15 19:42 |
| MinceR | too bad, they don't have significant control over it either | Oct 15 19:42 |
| phanes | what is also shallow thinking is that you need to be perpetually happy to experience a good life | Oct 15 19:42 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: Accepted what worse option? | Oct 15 19:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | and theyre PROBABLY deluded, but if they try thats a good kind of deluded, especially if theres any chance of it working | Oct 15 19:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> what is also shallow thinking is that you need to be perpetually happy to experience a good life | Oct 15 19:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | <- oh im against mandatory happiness | Oct 15 19:42 |
| MinceR | well, might as well pass the time in some way | Oct 15 19:42 |
| MinceR | it doesn't hurt to try | Oct 15 19:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | its a vice | Oct 15 19:42 |
| MinceR | reptilian_thrills: Friend Computer disapproves. | Oct 15 19:43 |
| *Helenah is confused | Oct 15 19:43 | |
| reptilian_thrills | mandatory happiness is mind control, gaslighting, bullying | Oct 15 19:43 |
| Helenah | I'm not sure what I've accepted... | Oct 15 19:43 |
| phanes | pursuing happiness and joy is a fiend mindset | Oct 15 19:43 |
| MinceR | is it? | Oct 15 19:43 |
| phanes | yes | Oct 15 19:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | "im sorry you were beaten and raped. just be positive!" | Oct 15 19:43 |
| Helenah | Right, well I'm still confused! :D | Oct 15 19:43 |
| MinceR | sounds like there are even more fiends than i thought there were | Oct 15 19:43 |
| phanes | it's the same mentality that wants to rob you and sell your things to buy meth | Oct 15 19:43 |
| MinceR | including nonhumans | Oct 15 19:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | "really if you put your mind to it everything will be fine" | Oct 15 19:44 |
| Helenah | So please clear up the confusion! :3 | Oct 15 19:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | there are even more fiends than i thought there were <- personally im not surprised | Oct 15 19:44 |
| Helenah | Or I'm just going to flush this entire conversation out of my brain and it will be to me like it never happened. | Oct 15 19:44 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 15 19:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | i have faith in humanity, but ive seen a lot of fiends. | Oct 15 19:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | i know more are lurking | Oct 15 19:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | only i figured out its not the majority of humanity so its cool | Oct 15 19:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | if you spend too much time around liars it makes you cynical | Oct 15 19:45 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: Seriously dude, ignoring me just isn't cool... | Oct 15 19:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | and liars ARE "in charge" | Oct 15 19:45 |
| phanes | i want to say most people are just oxygen conversion machines peppered with moments of experience | Oct 15 19:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats why its so fucking dubious that phanes focuses on the neurodiverse when all the cunts destroying the world are normies | Oct 15 19:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | (except the an-coms. but its complicated) | Oct 15 19:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | we need the an-coms, imo. | Oct 15 19:46 |
| phanes | i have no issue with the neurodiverse | Oct 15 19:46 |
| phanes | i just don't think they should be in charge most of the time | Oct 15 19:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | but theres a nuance | Oct 15 19:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | and they dont do nuance well, which is why theyre always saying nuance | Oct 15 19:46 |
| Helenah | phanes: Explain? | Oct 15 19:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | <phanes> i just don't think they should be in charge most of the time <- thats fair but also makes the whole thing a bit moot | Oct 15 19:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | they ARENT in charge most of the time | Oct 15 19:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | they likely never would be | Oct 15 19:47 |
| Helenah | Just because someone is neurodivergent, doesn't mean they're not capacitated to be in say leadership roles. | Oct 15 19:47 |
| phanes | Helenah, HFAs tend to lack empathy which is a critical experiential component of leadership | Oct 15 19:47 |
| Helenah | And they can actaully make very good leaders. | Oct 15 19:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | unless you mean a real example-- like something non-theretical | Oct 15 19:47 |
| Helenah | phanes: I definitely have empathy. | Oct 15 19:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | at that point we dont have to argue about abstractions | Oct 15 19:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | we can just talk about history | Oct 15 19:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | the best example is stallman, and the whole movement is a dumpster fire that spent decades trying to dethrone him | Oct 15 19:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | granted he should have stepped down. just not entirely. | Oct 15 19:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | and not under any circumstances like this dumpster fire | Oct 15 19:48 |
| phanes | he is someone that needs to delegate portions of his leadership to cover his blind spots | Oct 15 19:48 |
| phanes | and doesn't have the sense to | Oct 15 19:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | the whole movement <- which no longer exists | Oct 15 19:48 |
| phanes | because he struggles with empathy | Oct 15 19:48 |
| Helenah | Oh dear... | Oct 15 19:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | because he struggles with empathy <- its a shame you dont understand autism better | Oct 15 19:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | most people dont | Oct 15 19:48 |
| MinceR | 15 204707 < Helenah> Just because someone is neurodivergent, doesn't mean they're not capacitated to be in say leadership roles. | Oct 15 19:48 |
| Helenah | Stallman will shoot someone down for their differences in a heart beat just for the sake of it... | Oct 15 19:49 |
| MinceR | no one is | Oct 15 19:49 |
| Helenah | And yep he really lacks empathy. | Oct 15 19:49 |
| phanes | not everyone who says things you don't like misunderstands what they're talking about | Oct 15 19:49 |
| MinceR | "leadership" is one of the most harmful memes inhabiting humans | Oct 15 19:49 |
| Helenah | He can't even try to place himself in someone elses shoes and try to imagine what it would be like. | Oct 15 19:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | not everyone who says things you don't like <- strawman | Oct 15 19:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | what youre saying isnt entirely accurate | Oct 15 19:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | its not about preference | Oct 15 19:49 |
| Helenah | So therefore he can never have a true understanding of other peoples differences. | Oct 15 19:49 |
| Helenah | This extends into misogyny with him btw. | Oct 15 19:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | sometimes youre going to meet someone who knows more about a subject (or an aspect of that subject) than you do | Oct 15 19:50 |
| phanes | Helenah, exactly why he needs to use a reverential leadership style that delegates most of the decisions to others | Oct 15 19:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | you dont seem prepared for that to happen | Oct 15 19:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | you seem used to being right about everything | Oct 15 19:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | or more right | Oct 15 19:50 |
| phanes | reptilian_thrills, happens all the time. it just isn't happening now. | Oct 15 19:50 |
| Helenah | 18:49:11 phanes | not everyone who says things you don't like misunderstands what they're talking about | Oct 15 19:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | ok well youre only 37 | Oct 15 19:50 |
| *phanes shrugs | Oct 15 19:50 | |
| reptilian_thrills | when you grow up youll understand better | Oct 15 19:50 |
| Helenah | I'm not sure if the "like" thing was because you interpreted me as not liking something you said. | Oct 15 19:50 |
| Helenah | But I for certain haven't once been hurt. | Oct 15 19:51 |
| *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) | Oct 15 19:51 | |
| phanes | Helenah, no that was directed to reptilian_thrills | Oct 15 19:51 |
| Helenah | Oh! | Oct 15 19:51 |
| Helenah | Yes, I agree with that but even the top most members of the board would prefer to favour him over members of the organisation under themselves so a lot of people need removing even if he is to change his ways of doing leadership. | Oct 15 19:52 |
| phanes | Helenah, and to stallman's credit on that topic, he was hit with some stuff that takes a rather nuanced and adversarial perspective to navigate | Oct 15 19:52 |
| Helenah | hmm | Oct 15 19:52 |
| Helenah | Well I wouldn't fault the guy 100% but he has done things which is asking for trouble such as the time when he picked his toes and ate whatever he got off them, skin, nail, whatever. It wasn't his action that was the problem, it was the time and place it was done in, the fact that he was the centre of attention by lots of people. | Oct 15 19:54 |
| phanes | of course | Oct 15 19:54 |
| Helenah | And most people don't want to watch someone else pick at their feet. | Oct 15 19:54 |
| Helenah | And you're bound to have people saying things to him. | Oct 15 19:54 |
| phanes | the pedo email thread was...unfortunate | Oct 15 19:54 |
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| reptilian_thrills | i mean if i wanted to talk to simon phipps i could just talk to simon phipps | Oct 15 19:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont need this cheap cloying knockoff version | Oct 15 19:55 |
| Helenah | pedophilia is very taboo, just talking about it can get you into a lot of shit even if your points are valid and even right. | Oct 15 19:55 |
| phanes | he should've had the self awareness to realize what he was stepping into as he explored his morality internally | Oct 15 19:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | be careful or youll end up like eric s raymond | Oct 15 19:55 |
| phanes | what's wrong with ESR | Oct 15 19:55 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: Explain? | Oct 15 19:55 |
| Helenah | And what's with the constant stream of vagueness? | Oct 15 19:56 |
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| Helenah | Oh yeah I forgot, I'm just wasting my time asking you questions, you pretend I'm not even here. | Oct 15 19:57 |
| Helenah | So the question I asked? It doesn't matter, forget it. | Oct 15 19:57 |
| phanes | ive walked into hit jobs where groups were asking questions designed to fabricate a scandal to try to exploit what they would perceive as a moral chink in the armor, but recognized it and responded in a way that revealed their intent | Oct 15 19:57 |
| phanes | stallman can't do that | Oct 15 19:58 |
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| phanes | because he doesn't have the self-awareness and empathy | Oct 15 19:58 |
| phanes | this is why I say HFAs struggle with leadership of humans | Oct 15 19:58 |
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| MinceR | so what | Oct 15 19:58 |
| phanes | or is rather a great example of why | Oct 15 19:58 |
| MinceR | sociopaths lack both too | Oct 15 19:58 |
| MinceR | and yet they lead most people | Oct 15 19:59 |
| phanes | sociopaths or psychopaths | Oct 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | (incredibly badly, but most people don't seem to mind) | Oct 15 19:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | its funny how alt-right bullshit is so mainstream now | Oct 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | afaict the former | Oct 15 19:59 |
| phanes | sociopaths generally tend to destroy themselves before they get too far into a leadership track | Oct 15 19:59 |
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| MinceR | reptilian_thrills: well, ruscism is mainstream | Oct 15 19:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean its the pendulum swing, the pendulum took the fucking dmt | Oct 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 15 20:00 |
| Helenah | sociopaths and psychopaths can actually be helped with CBT but most don't recognise they have a condition and one needs to recognise things in them are an issue before they'll get help with them. | Oct 15 20:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> reptilian_thrills: well, ruscism is mainstream <- fairest point made this week | Oct 15 20:00 |
| Helenah | There are success stories out there | Oct 15 20:00 |
| MinceR | Cock/Ball Torture? | Oct 15 20:00 |
| *phanes reads CBT as "cock and ball torture" | Oct 15 20:00 | |
| reptilian_thrills | cognitive behavioural therapy | Oct 15 20:00 |
| phanes | haha beat me to it | Oct 15 20:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | or sth like that | Oct 15 20:00 |
| Helenah | MinceR: It's not ABA, ABA is cruel. | Oct 15 20:00 |
| MinceR | there's also "Computer Based Training" but i haven't seen that used in decades... | Oct 15 20:00 |
| phanes | what about ABBA? | Oct 15 20:00 |
| Helenah | Though sociopathy and psychopathy are usually brought on by a childhood so it can remit when a trauma happens again later in life. | Oct 15 20:00 |
| phanes | oh shit my boomer is showing | Oct 15 20:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | phanes is to psych what roy is to covid | Oct 15 20:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | he should go on tour with ben shapiro | Oct 15 20:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | not because of politics, just because of style | Oct 15 20:01 |
| Helenah | CBT doesn't force you to be a different person, nor does it dog train you to be a different person. | Oct 15 20:01 |
| Helenah | It just teaches you ways on dealing with situations and processing them. | Oct 15 20:01 |
| phanes | reptilian_thrills, i grew up being bombarded by psychological theory, dad was a phd in abnormal psych with a minor in philosophy | Oct 15 20:01 |
| Helenah | ABA however I compare to dog training. | Oct 15 20:01 |
| MinceR | afaik people with ASPD don't _want_ to be different, but they do want you to _believe_ they're different | Oct 15 20:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | this whole approach is going to be so dated in a decade or two | Oct 15 20:02 |
| MinceR | probably all approaches will be | Oct 15 20:02 |
| phanes | Helenah, is 100% right, you can't "teach" a sociopath or narcissist to experience empathy. You can teach them to emulate it and express it, but it's ultimately an experience that is missing. | Oct 15 20:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | well its so cloyingly pseudointellectual | Oct 15 20:02 |
| Helenah | MinceR: Every ASPD person is an individual though so there are exceptions where the ASPD sufferer has used their own initiative to seek treatments such as CBT. | Oct 15 20:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its more detail-oriented than pseudointellectualism usually is | Oct 15 20:03 |
| Helenah | It's not about making them non-ASPD and it never can do that. | Oct 15 20:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | and thats the only thing it brings to the table | Oct 15 20:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its opponents tend to do the same | Oct 15 20:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | so it becomes a giant dick waving contest among giant dicks | Oct 15 20:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its also completely bullshit, and thats where the novelty has a half-life of about 2 seconds | Oct 15 20:04 |
| *phanes hops on his dick and rides a giant wave across the horizon | Oct 15 20:04 | |
| Helenah | There is one who spoke of his experience on Youtube and he said he supports the treatment had seeked out arguing it helped him. | Oct 15 20:04 |
| Helenah | *he'd | Oct 15 20:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | "this argument optimised for youtube and twitter" | Oct 15 20:04 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: Do NOT turn this into something it's not! | Oct 15 20:04 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/running.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-running#comic ) | Oct 15 20:04 |
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| Helenah | I know who you are... | Oct 15 20:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | they always think theyre presenting something new | Oct 15 20:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | but you can go back 100 years and find the same old bullshit | Oct 15 20:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | sometimes its 50, thats close enough too | Oct 15 20:05 |
| phanes | the really damaging disorders like NPD, BPD, APD have a really low treatment success rate because the nature of their disorder precludes them from believing they need it. NPD in particular. There are 0 cases of rehabilitated narcissists. | Oct 15 20:05 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: All you want to do is tell people they shouldn't have gone to a doctor. | Oct 15 20:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course if you built the fucking pyramids, thats totally different... | Oct 15 20:05 |
| Helenah | And that doctors should never be trusted. | Oct 15 20:05 |
| Helenah | I'd be dead now if it wasn't for doctors. | Oct 15 20:06 |
| phanes | depends on the doctor | Oct 15 20:06 |
| Helenah | I didn't even /whois you, I relied purely on typographical stylometrics. | Oct 15 20:06 |
| Helenah | phanes: Yep, it does. | Oct 15 20:06 |
| Helenah | But you could say that about anyone whether they work in medical or not. | Oct 15 20:06 |
| phanes | most us doctors will watch you die | Oct 15 20:06 |
| phanes | some will tinker with you /until/ you die | Oct 15 20:07 |
| phanes | there's a quiet credibility crisis happening in expert fields in the united states | Oct 15 20:07 |
| Helenah | A doctor of mine told a professor who kept asking for tumour samples "No" arguing to the professor it was too risky. | Oct 15 20:07 |
| phanes | so if you find one that really knows their specialization and is saving lives, that's gold that should be recognized | Oct 15 20:07 |
| Helenah | Yep agreed | Oct 15 20:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | anyway, elitism is the same problem (in practical terms) as cancel culture | Oct 15 20:08 |
| Helenah | This doctor put my health before research. | Oct 15 20:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | basically you need a certain percentage of humanity on board to fix this bullshit | Oct 15 20:08 |
| Helenah | That's good of him. | Oct 15 20:08 |
| phanes | it's the same way with cops. every once in a while one of them saves a life. that doesn't detract from the massive LEO culture problem that kills shitloads of people every year. | Oct 15 20:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | and elitism and cancel culture are more interested in disqualifying people rather than getting to business | Oct 15 20:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | its a distraction-- and that would be fine, but they get stuck there | Oct 15 20:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | they dont go back to actually fixing anything | Oct 15 20:09 |
| phanes | in all fairness alot of people need disqualified | Oct 15 20:09 |
| phanes | its just hardly ever the people that need it | Oct 15 20:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | so you end up with a small fraction of the forces needed for "enlightenment" or "tikkun olam" or "progress" or anything like that | Oct 15 20:09 |
| Helenah | phanes: Did I show you this https://files.catbox.moe/46lwn4.jpg | Oct 15 20:09 |
| Helenah | I think I did | Oct 15 20:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | in other words its masturbatory, its self-congratulating | Oct 15 20:09 |
| Helenah | but not sure if it was you who responded or MinceR | Oct 15 20:09 |
| phanes | the ones that need destroyed often end up having too much control over the narrative when you occassionally destroy them | Oct 15 20:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | its very intense navel-gazing | Oct 15 20:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | fapping in the mirror | Oct 15 20:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think its the most boring thing in the world. and we all do it | Oct 15 20:10 |
| phanes | Helenah, yeah -- is your tumor malignant? | Oct 15 20:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | but some people present it as a solution. its not. | Oct 15 20:10 |
| Helenah | phanes: Yep | Oct 15 20:10 |
| Helenah | And they've told me it is. | Oct 15 20:10 |
| phanes | yank it in a mirror reptilian_thrills? I can truthfully say I don't do that. | Oct 15 20:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | its the very reason mincer thinks the world is hopeless | Oct 15 20:11 |
| Helenah | And told me that it's very slow progressing, most likely won't kill me. | Oct 15 20:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | either way, the world is full of shit | Oct 15 20:11 |
| Helenah | But they're going to be doing 2 whole genome sequences | Oct 15 20:11 |
| phanes | the world is full of shit | Oct 15 20:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | the question is whether its also hopeless (spoiler: its definitely close | Oct 15 20:11 |
| Helenah | One of my tumour, one of my saliva then compare the difference | Oct 15 20:11 |
| Helenah | they said that it's very new technology, most likely won't return a solution. | Oct 15 20:11 |
| Helenah | He said that or he just watch and monitor | Oct 15 20:12 |
| phanes | i realized young that i had been lied to about almost everything I knew, and I am still integrating that realization into my worldview today a lie at a time | Oct 15 20:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | everyones going to fap in the mirror. some think thats the solution to the worlds problems | Oct 15 20:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | hitler did it, stalin did it, the democrats do it, ben shapiro does it | Oct 15 20:12 |
| phanes | like | Oct 15 20:12 |
| phanes | literally almost everything we are told is a lie | Oct 15 20:12 |
| phanes | "diversify your investment portfolio to get rich" | Oct 15 20:13 |
| phanes | no | Oct 15 20:13 |
| Helenah | phanes: Agreed | Oct 15 20:13 |
| phanes | the people that get rich don't diversify | Oct 15 20:13 |
| Helenah | phanes: Agreed | Oct 15 20:13 |
| phanes | that's what rich people do to /stay/ rich | Oct 15 20:13 |
| phanes | the people that get rich go hard into something fairly risky and come out a winner | Oct 15 20:13 |
| Helenah | Though they don't have to do it to stay rich. | Oct 15 20:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | mjg does it and phanes doesnt get the connection | Oct 15 20:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | they should just fuck already | Oct 15 20:13 |
| phanes | reptilian_thrills, mjg does what? | Oct 15 20:14 |
| Helenah | faps in the mirror | Oct 15 20:14 |
| Helenah | apparently | Oct 15 20:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | sorry for shipping you with everyone mjg | Oct 15 20:14 |
| Helenah | according to reptilian_thrills | Oct 15 20:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | its pure rhetoric i swear | Oct 15 20:14 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: You really hate my guts, don't you? :) | Oct 15 20:14 |
| Helenah | Admit it. | Oct 15 20:14 |
| Helenah | It won't hurt me. | Oct 15 20:14 |
| phanes | reptilian_thrills, i suspect mjg is a highly impressionable narcissist that is surrounded by much more sinister people that are exploiting that impressionability for their own gains and that when he starts realizing he's just puppeting what his gal's hand up his ass is getting him to say through an indoctrination that we'll all have to witness his trump-like narcissistic collapse | Oct 15 20:15 |
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| Helenah | EQ (Empathy Quotient) by Psychology Tools: | Oct 15 20:16 |
| Helenah | Your score was 55 out of a possible 80. | Oct 15 20:16 |
| Helenah | Scores above 30 are generally not indicative of an Autism Spectrum disorder. | Oct 15 20:16 |
| Helenah | Higher scores indicate greater levels of empathy. | Oct 15 20:16 |
| Helenah | About the empathy ^ | Oct 15 20:16 |
| phanes | he is in a heteronormative relationship being misrepresented as gender-fluid culture conformance and is puppeting lovecruft's antics to the point that it's nearly destroyed him already. Like, it's in a blind spot right now, but when that guy realizes what's been done to him he's going to have an absolute meltdown. | Oct 15 20:18 |
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| Helenah | phanes: What is your opinion on LGBT+ people? Even talk of the letters individual for more in-depth information. | Oct 15 20:19 |
| Helenah | *individually | Oct 15 20:19 |
| phanes | Helenah, what's your opinion on CIS people? | Oct 15 20:19 |
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| Helenah | What's CIS? | Oct 15 20:20 |
| Helenah | Like cisgender? | Oct 15 20:20 |
| techrights-news | 10 Useful lsof Commands in Linux With Examples https://www.linuxcloudvps.com/blog/10-useful-lsof-commands-in-linux-with-examples/ | Oct 15 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Useful lsof Commands in Linux With Examples | LinuxCloudVPS Blog | Oct 15 20:20 | |
| phanes | Helenah, https://www.transhub.org.au/101/cis | Oct 15 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.transhub.org.au | What does cis mean? — TransHub | Oct 15 20:20 | |
| Helenah | They're people whose gender is in-lign with some binary social construct. | Oct 15 20:20 |
| Helenah | *inlign | Oct 15 20:21 |
| phanes | "some" | Oct 15 20:21 |
| Helenah | Yeah, they're still individuals | Oct 15 20:21 |
| phanes | no not "some" | Oct 15 20:21 |
| Helenah | Honestly though giving a kid a doll because they got a vagina is a social construct. | Oct 15 20:22 |
| phanes | it's important not to misrepresent the default norm for almost all of human history spanning geos and times as anything but that. | Oct 15 20:22 |
| MinceR | Commonwealth of Independent States | Oct 15 20:22 |
| phanes | now, granted, it's reprehensible that marketers exploited this -- hence the doll thing | Oct 15 20:22 |
| Helenah | Yep, they do exploit it. | Oct 15 20:23 |
| techrights-news | Empirical evidence that Microsoft openwashing and false “engagement” are being used to make money by diluting the brand “Linux” http://techrights.org/2022/10/15/lf-gaming-social-control-media/ | Oct 15 20:23 |
| phanes | same with christmas | Oct 15 20:23 |
| Helenah | There was this boy who liked nail polish | Oct 15 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Linux’ Foundation Games Social Control Media Sites to Defraud Clients | Techrights | Oct 15 20:23 | |
| phanes | everyone knows santa loves rich kids more than poor kids | Oct 15 20:23 |
| Helenah | but hated marketers for marketing it as a girls only thing. | Oct 15 20:23 |
| Helenah | Arguing that what marketers are doing just stigmatised him for being a boy who likes nail polish. | Oct 15 20:23 |
| Helenah | phanes: Yep | Oct 15 20:23 |
| Helenah | I think all these social constructs are doing is creating damaging divides. | Oct 15 20:25 |
| phanes | and those gender-reinforcing quirks have always been a thing, too. pink, purple used to be masculine colors, some cultures had men wearing robes or kilts | Oct 15 20:25 |
| MinceR | "Of course the Emperor protects! It's just that He protects me better when I'm in a full carapace suit." | Oct 15 20:25 |
| phanes | Helenah, no archetypes are extraordinarily important parts of human civilization | Oct 15 20:25 |
| phanes | Helenah, that doesn't mean they can't change over time | Oct 15 20:25 |
| Helenah | I believe there would be less trans people for example if people weren't placed into one of two groups. | Oct 15 20:26 |
| Helenah | Agreed | Oct 15 20:26 |
| MinceR | human civilization would be a good idea | Oct 15 20:26 |
| phanes | Helenah, its important also to recognize that all of our values around this are culture-specific and time-specific -- in 200 years our descendants will probably find our openness to the current archetypes objectionable (including possible LBQTG+ archetypes) | Oct 15 20:26 |
| MinceR | it's incredibly optimistic to think there will be descendants of ours 200 years from now | Oct 15 20:27 |
| phanes | we have a tendency to believe we've found the summon bonum, the highest aspiration of ethical perspective in our times, basing that ideal entirely off of contemporary archetypes | Oct 15 20:27 |
| phanes | we have always done this | Oct 15 20:28 |
| whitenigga | yo dawg, ur shit is dry af | Oct 15 20:28 |
| phanes | "the best we know of based on the things we currently know about are the best that it can be" | Oct 15 20:28 |
| phanes | whitenigga, dude you don't know dry then, I havent even talked about the categorical imperative or how hegel didn't understand Kant | Oct 15 20:29 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 10 Most Popular Linux Distros Available Out There in 2022 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/10_Most_Popular_Linux_Distros_Available_Out_There_in_2022.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/10_Most_Popular_Linux_Distros_Available_Out_There_in_2022.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 20:29 |
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| whitenigga | please dont | Oct 15 20:30 |
| MinceR | Don't Repeat Yourself | Oct 15 20:30 |
| MinceR | that's the DRY principle | Oct 15 20:30 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Why Is NixOS Popular Again? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Why_Is_NixOS_Popular_Again.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Why_Is_NixOS_Popular_Again.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Why Is NixOS Popular Again? | Oct 15 20:30 | |
| reptilian_thrills | if ive said it once ive said it a thousand times: dont repeat yourself | Oct 15 20:31 |
| techrights-news | Ardour 7.0 released https://ardour.org/whatsnew.html | Oct 15 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ardour.org | | Oct 15 20:31 | |
| reptilian_thrills | its worth saying twice | Oct 15 20:31 |
| Helenah | Speaking of repeating... | Oct 15 20:31 |
| *phanes mumbles something about whitenigga's tendency towards glorification of his innately anti-intellectual perspective to try to validate himself in a world that is much more complex than he is prepared to deal with | Oct 15 20:31 | |
| techrights-news | [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduction of HP-BIOSCFG driver - Jorge Lopez https://lore.kernel.org/platform-driver-x86/20221014232726.31301-1-jorge.lopez2@hp.com/ | Oct 15 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduction of HP-BIOSCFG driver - Jorge Lopez | Oct 15 20:31 | |
| Helenah | My brain goes "WTF" when I read an article and see a paragraph has been used 2 or 3 times at different parts | Oct 15 20:31 |
| Helenah | My brain goes "I read it already, why are you a broken record?" lol | Oct 15 20:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | if ive said it once, ive said it a million times: dont exaggerate! | Oct 15 20:31 |
| techrights-news | Fujitsu and Japanese Uni want internet 'endorsement layer' - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/14/trustable_internet_endorsement_layer/ ䷉ Source: The Register UK | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/10/14/trustable_internet_endorsement_layer/ | Oct 15 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Fujitsu and Japanese Uni want internet 'endorsement layer' • The Register | Oct 15 20:32 | |
| whitenigga | phanes: blah blah blah | Oct 15 20:32 |
| whitenigga | ur such a nerd dawh | Oct 15 20:32 |
| whitenigga | dawg | Oct 15 20:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | the shoe fits | Oct 15 20:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me pumps it and makes it fit even better | Oct 15 20:33 |
| techrights-news | Bluestar 6.0.1 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ | Oct 15 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BluestarLinux download | SourceForge.net | Oct 15 20:33 | |
| *phanes hands whitenigga his size 20 shoes and walks away | Oct 15 20:33 | |
| techrights-news | BillBC on the competition https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63082320 | Oct 15 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google to close Stadia cloud service and refund gamers - BBC News | Oct 15 20:34 | |
| whitenigga | phanes: nigga please | Oct 15 20:35 |
| whitenigga | know what im sayin | Oct 15 20:35 |
| MinceR | yet another clown computing success story | Oct 15 20:35 |
| whitenigga | gnomisayin | Oct 15 20:35 |
| techrights-news | "Kara Sherrer Contributing Writer"?? No, Webspam for diploma mills. Writer? Maybe. Of SPAM. https://www.techrepublic.com/meet-the-team/us/kara-sherrer/ | Oct 15 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kara Sherrer, Author at TechRepublic | Oct 15 20:35 | |
| Helenah | phanes, MinceR, :3 https://files.catbox.moe/g5zhp2.jpg | Oct 15 20:36 |
| phanes | whitenigga, no i don't know what im saying, your dialog is mostly grunts and appeals to a mindset that represents deliberate degeneracy and belongs in a field doing manual labor | Oct 15 20:36 |
| Helenah | That one is CT. | Oct 15 20:37 |
| Helenah | Though they won't give me many of them unless they absolutely need them and also won't give me any of them if they think the risks of the scan outweigh the risks of my cancer. | Oct 15 20:37 |
| MinceR | Helenah: yeah, and it also has your name on it | Oct 15 20:37 |
| Helenah | MinceR: It's everywhere anyway. | Oct 15 20:37 |
| starstreak | 😇 | Oct 15 20:38 |
| Helenah | starstreak: Hi | Oct 15 20:38 |
| phanes | Helenah, i have often wondered how many people walk around with serious medical conditions they don't know about because our medicine has only just barely begun to advance and is stunted by our current research models | Oct 15 20:38 |
| MinceR | and age | Oct 15 20:38 |
| starstreak | Helenah, hi :) | Oct 15 20:38 |
| Helenah | phanes: Well people don't realise they're developing microcancers all the time, most of which are nothing. | Oct 15 20:38 |
| Helenah | MinceR: That's everywhere | Oct 15 20:38 |
| MinceR | we will develop nanocancer™ | Oct 15 20:39 |
| Helenah | Hi hi starstreak :D | Oct 15 20:39 |
| Helenah | Cells can escape apoptosis. | Oct 15 20:39 |
| phanes | Helenah, we need to be talking to more sociologists and statisticians about cancer :P | Oct 15 20:39 |
| Helenah | and then pass on the reason why they were able to escape it in the first place onto new cells. | Oct 15 20:39 |
| Helenah | Which also do the same thing | Oct 15 20:39 |
| AdmFubar | mhttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/how-a-microsoft-blunder-opened-millions-of-pcs-to-potent-malware-attacks/ | Oct 15 20:39 |
| Helenah | next thing you have this ever growing mass | Oct 15 20:39 |
| Helenah | That just is too stubborn to give up | Oct 15 20:40 |
| Helenah | phanes: Yep | Oct 15 20:40 |
| starstreak | hi hi Helenah :) | Oct 15 20:40 |
| whitenigga | starstreak: i just read everything on your site and thats some crazy shit dawg | Oct 15 20:41 |
| whitenigga | nice artwork though | Oct 15 20:41 |
| Helenah | whitenigga: You think you're cool, don't you? | Oct 15 20:42 |
| Helenah | Well you're not. | Oct 15 20:42 |
| Helenah | So STOP acting like you are! | Oct 15 20:42 |
| whitenigga | starstreak: you deserve the CrazyNigga award | Oct 15 20:42 |
| Helenah | Infact just do whatever you want, I'm merely expressing. | Oct 15 20:42 |
| phanes | Helenah, the world needs people who can clean hotel rooms and flip burgers too, it's one of the foundational layers of society | Oct 15 20:43 |
| whitenigga | Helenah: i know im cool, gnomisayin | Oct 15 20:43 |
| Helenah | whitenigga: People who claim they "know" they are cool are most likely not cool. | Oct 15 20:43 |
| Helenah | You can wear shades, it doesn't make you cool. | Oct 15 20:43 |
| whitenigga | Helenah: did you wake up and drink haterade dawg? | Oct 15 20:43 |
| Helenah | phanes: Yep | Oct 15 20:43 |
| Helenah | whitenigga: I'm not hating anyone and redact the "dawg". | Oct 15 20:44 |
| Helenah | I'm no dawg. | Oct 15 20:44 |
| Helenah | Infact do as you please, I'm just merely expressing. | Oct 15 20:44 |
| whitenigga | alright girl sorry | Oct 15 20:45 |
| Helenah | There's no need to apologise. :) | Oct 15 20:45 |
| Helenah | You don't realise it today, but you will realise it tomorrow. Right now you probably think I'm merely digging at you but tomorrow you will realise that I wasn't digging at you, wasn't hating you or anything like that, I was sending a subtle warning that this "cool act" of yours will backfire back onto you. | Oct 15 20:46 |
| Helenah | And it won't be me doing the backfiring, it will be some outwardly spoken other person. | Oct 15 20:47 |
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| phanes | it reminds me of when the boss's kid stumbles into the board meeting and starts asking questions, and most of the people just politely entertain the outbursts and non-relevant questions | Oct 15 20:48 |
| phanes | meanwhile 3/4 of the room is looking around to see who's going to wheel him back to the reception lobby so they can wrap up the meeting | Oct 15 20:48 |
| phanes | they don't hate the kid | Oct 15 20:48 |
| Helenah | Yep, often people approach things politely, even passively and then one day they say something. | Oct 15 20:48 |
| phanes | he just needs to be in the toy room | Oct 15 20:48 |
| Helenah | Plenty of people probably tolerated whitenigga's cool acts without whitenigga even realise that's happening, one of these people will some day say something to him. | Oct 15 20:49 |
| phanes | im pretty vocal about it | Oct 15 20:49 |
| Helenah | Believe me, I had a teacher called Mr Ramsden, I called him Mr Ramsbottom for 2 years before he finally backfired against me. | Oct 15 20:50 |
| phanes | most of my backlash from when i was an arrogant teenager was internal tbh | Oct 15 20:50 |
| phanes | remembering a teacher who had a neck vein that i poked on a dare who was genuinely just passionately trying to teach high schoolers about earth science | Oct 15 20:51 |
| phanes | alot of people have a fuckhead phase | Oct 15 20:51 |
| techrights-news | Conan package manager compiled in OE https://bkhome.org/news/202210/conan-package-manager-compiled-in-oe.html | Oct 15 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Conan package manager compiled in OE | Oct 15 20:52 | |
| Helenah | I bet he didn't like that. | Oct 15 20:52 |
| phanes | she didn't and acted like she didn't notice | Oct 15 20:52 |
| Helenah | OH she woops sorry | Oct 15 20:52 |
| phanes | i was like 15 and took the non-response as weakness instead of ignoring the fuckhead so she could teach the class | Oct 15 20:52 |
| Helenah | Most teachers in my school days were women btw. | Oct 15 20:53 |
| Helenah | rarely any men. | Oct 15 20:53 |
| phanes | whitenigga, gnoimsayin? | Oct 15 20:53 |
| Helenah | It was soo one gender and less of the other. | Oct 15 20:53 |
| whitenigga | phanes: its gnomisayin | Oct 15 20:54 |
| Helenah | I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with men scared of working with kids. | Oct 15 20:54 |
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| techrights-news | Ubuntu Once Again Angered Users by Placing Ads in the Terminal http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Canonical_displays_controversial_ad_in_shell_update_prog.shtml | Oct 15 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog (UDPATEDx2) | Oct 15 20:56 | |
| Helenah | Society seems to find it soo easy to accuse men of being potentially dangerous. | Oct 15 20:57 |
| phanes | in all fairness we are | Oct 15 20:58 |
| Helenah | Yet women are just as capable. | Oct 15 20:58 |
| phanes | yep | Oct 15 20:58 |
| techrights-news | Canonica: Ubuntu is CentOS and you need "Pro" for RealValue(R). Also, Ubuntu means "Debian with ads". | Oct 15 20:58 |
| Helenah | I've watched a woman rag the hair of another woman in college, it took 5 members of staff 2 of them being security guards to get her off the other person while the other person was screaming out in pain. | Oct 15 20:58 |
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| Helenah | It wasn't as simple as getting her off when she's hold of someones hair. | Oct 15 20:59 |
| phanes | oh some women are vicious to each other in ways most men can't learn to be | Oct 15 20:59 |
| Helenah | Agreed | Oct 15 20:59 |
| phanes | especially high school and college | Oct 15 20:59 |
| phanes | those girls were just absolute demons to each other | Oct 15 21:00 |
| Helenah | Yep, I was eating my dinner at the time when a load of thuds suddenly started behind me, it shat me up. | Oct 15 21:00 |
| phanes | the dudes would beat each other up occassionally but the girls were like psychological warfare | Oct 15 21:00 |
| Helenah | a load of computers went flying off the desk including one I was on... | Oct 15 21:00 |
| Helenah | I well freaked out... lol | Oct 15 21:00 |
| Helenah | That's cause she had dragged this girl onto the desk, pinned her down to it and started ragging out her hair. | Oct 15 21:00 |
| phanes | what is "ragging" | Oct 15 21:01 |
| phanes | i dont know that term | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | phanes: Pulling it out but with a repetitive tugging action | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | I can do it too | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | it hurts the most | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | Yes I've actually done it myself... | Oct 15 21:01 |
| phanes | thats horrible | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | I'm guilty of it | Oct 15 21:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also in workspaces | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | that was once and one time only in high school | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | but what I did was nothing in comparison to this... | Oct 15 21:01 |
| Helenah | This just left a room in trash... | Oct 15 21:02 |
| phanes | some of the girls i went to high school and college with were at like war with each other, not like beat each other up war but pretend to make up and be friends long enough to seduce boyfriend + dad | Oct 15 21:02 |
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| Helenah | Damn | Oct 15 21:02 |
| techrights-news | TP-Link network equipment hijacks some DNS requests https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/tplink-dns-hijacking.html | Oct 15 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | TP-Link network equipment hijacks some DNS requests | Ctrl blog | Oct 15 21:03 | |
| Helenah | Also women are better at doing social manipulation. | Oct 15 21:03 |
| Helenah | I'm saying all this as a woman. | Oct 15 21:03 |
| Helenah | I'm honest. | Oct 15 21:03 |
| phanes | some are yes | Oct 15 21:03 |
| phanes | i was caught in the web of a black widow once and had to lose a couple limbs to get out | Oct 15 21:03 |
| phanes | it practically defined my 20s and im still processing it | Oct 15 21:03 |
| phanes | that was my first exposure to NPD | Oct 15 21:04 |
| phanes | she was diagnosed by our couples therapist shortly before all hell broke loose | Oct 15 21:04 |
| techrights-news | This is a security problem only if the malware gets to the system in the first place https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/threat-intelligence/researchers-detail-new-c2-attack-framework-targeting-windows-macos-and-linux | Oct 15 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Researchers detail new C2 attack framework targeting Windows, macOS and Linux | SC Media | Oct 15 21:05 | |
| phanes | therapist calls me out for a quick meeting and is politely trying to warn me to get very far away very fast | Oct 15 21:05 |
| phanes | i didn't listen because i didn't know how the disorder worked yet | Oct 15 21:05 |
| Helenah | Oh dear | Oct 15 21:05 |
| phanes | yeah my guts are all over maine | Oct 15 21:05 |
| Helenah | They have what I call a "grapple hook", it's their first thing they do | Oct 15 21:05 |
| Helenah | So once they have you hooked to them, bonded tight | Oct 15 21:06 |
| Helenah | They then manipulated the fuck out of you | Oct 15 21:06 |
| Helenah | *manipulate | Oct 15 21:06 |
| phanes | in all fairness we were engaged and living together and by the time I realized what was going on it was already way too scary and painful to avoid any damage | Oct 15 21:06 |
| Helenah | hmm | Oct 15 21:06 |
| phanes | like the social isolation was so subtle that i didn't even realize i was isolated until it was way too late | Oct 15 21:06 |
| Helenah | I don't blame you for not listening at first, you probably didn't have any idea if it was ridiculous or not. | Oct 15 21:07 |
| phanes | i didn't even know people could think like that back then | Oct 15 21:07 |
| phanes | and appear to be normal | Oct 15 21:08 |
| Helenah | I've encountered narcissists too but because of my brick wall barrier that seems to go up against them, they then try to use a proxy person to get to me. | Oct 15 21:08 |
| phanes | yeah i didn't have any of that | Oct 15 21:08 |
| phanes | i spent like 15 years trying to expose what she was doing to me | Oct 15 21:08 |
| phanes | they have a way of going to other people in the web and pretexting anything you might say | Oct 15 21:09 |
| Helenah | So did she already have an NPD diagnosis or was it picked up on, I assume when talking to her without you present? | Oct 15 21:09 |
| Helenah | That's a psychological tactic | Oct 15 21:09 |
| Helenah | speak to both together, then each one individually separately | Oct 15 21:09 |
| phanes | yep | Oct 15 21:10 |
| Helenah | To see how they change | Oct 15 21:10 |
| phanes | it was after individual sessions | Oct 15 21:10 |
| Helenah | And she would've said a right load of things in the comforts of a therapist she wouldn't say to you. | Oct 15 21:10 |
| phanes | together i was the demon | Oct 15 21:10 |
| phanes | yep | Oct 15 21:10 |
| phanes | exactly | Oct 15 21:10 |
| phanes | horrible shit | Oct 15 21:10 |
| Helenah | This is where therapists are crafty. | Oct 15 21:10 |
| Helenah | They know how to get the information they want out of peoples brains. | Oct 15 21:10 |
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| Helenah | It's a good thing, you got a warning because of it. | Oct 15 21:11 |
| phanes | eh, i just wish i knew now back then the damage wouldn't have been anywhere near as severe | Oct 15 21:11 |
| phanes | *just wish i knew then what i know now | Oct 15 21:11 |
| phanes | the "storm" that comes with that kind of split i was just not prepared for | Oct 15 21:12 |
| Helenah | Believe me though, how you approached what was warned to you is normal btw. | Oct 15 21:12 |
| phanes | you're right about using proxies as weapons | Oct 15 21:13 |
| phanes | it was everybody man | Oct 15 21:13 |
| phanes | i tell ya what though | Oct 15 21:14 |
| Helenah | narcissists are never satisfied with themselves and what they have, they will always see what others have and how they are as better than themself and their own things. So if they take physical things from you for example keeping a hold of your debit card like what they want is one of your personality attributes which they can't just take, it's inside you | Oct 15 21:15 |
| Helenah | then they will abuse the shit out of you for those good attributes | Oct 15 21:15 |
| phanes | that whole saga prepared me like crazy for both the corporate world and f/oss shit | Oct 15 21:15 |
| Helenah | Like I said "grapple hook", they put on a charm and get you close and get you comfortable | Oct 15 21:15 |
| phanes | because tech is unnaturally saturated with cluster Bs | Oct 15 21:15 |
| Helenah | Then the devil comes out to play with you | Oct 15 21:15 |
| techrights-news | TypiCMS: a Modular Open-source CMS based on Laravel https://medevel.com/typicms/ | Oct 15 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | TypiCMS: a Modular Open-source CMS based on Laravel | Oct 15 21:15 | |
| Helenah | phanes: That's true | Oct 15 21:15 |
| phanes | i can spot them a mile away these days | Oct 15 21:16 |
| phanes | i have some trouble with the covert subtype | Oct 15 21:16 |
| phanes | they can get under my radar for a while | Oct 15 21:16 |
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| techrights-news | "Recently I’ve worked a lot with multithreading and wanted to share a very simple but useful tool. However, Qt-experts won’t be surprised." https://lnj.gitlab.io/post/running-lambdas-on-a-thread-with-qt/ | Oct 15 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lnj.gitlab.io | Runnning lambda functions on a specific thread with Qt - Linus Jahn | Oct 15 21:17 | |
| Helenah | Btw, I met my gf on IRC like... 8 years ago and a month into our relationship, some dimwhit on IRC basically warned her that I'm a narcissist and that she should get away from them asap. My gf didn't listen and is still with me 8 years on finding that what was told her wasn't true... | Oct 15 21:18 |
| phanes | sounds like a rival tried to do a role reversal | Oct 15 21:18 |
| Helenah | Apparently I was coming across as "charming" | Oct 15 21:18 |
| Helenah | Which I'll admit I was | Oct 15 21:18 |
| Helenah | because well she was new | Oct 15 21:18 |
| Helenah | and the love was new... | Oct 15 21:19 |
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| phanes | mine tried to do that a couple times but you can just wait it out and shit becomes apparent if the sabotage of the narcissist doesn't work immediately. the ones that hurt is when they sabotage with something you didn't see them say, but you know they said something, and the person they said it to just disappears over it | Oct 15 21:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | wb | Oct 15 21:19 |
| Helenah | hmm | Oct 15 21:20 |
| starstreak | reptilian_thrills, thanks | Oct 15 21:20 |
| phanes | which is frequent and unfortunate but is just part of life after you get out of a narcissist's control | Oct 15 21:20 |
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| Helenah | Yep I walked away from a narcsissist | Oct 15 21:20 |
| Helenah | I was putting my barrier up against her which she couldn't break | Oct 15 21:20 |
| phanes | grey rock? | Oct 15 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://imgur.com/gallery/fRoVq | Oct 15 21:21 |
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| Helenah | to the point she was telling my girlfriend behind my back "You see those alien statues over there? It's like I'm talking to one of those with her" | Oct 15 21:21 |
| Helenah | Yep she had human sized alien statues... in her living room which was too small for even a sofa... | Oct 15 21:21 |
| Helenah | lol | Oct 15 21:21 |
| starstreak | lol wut | Oct 15 21:21 |
| Helenah | starstreak: She couldn't get through to my mind. | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Helenah | So she compared me to her statues behind my back. | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Helenah | Then not long after... | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Helenah | my gf broke up with me TWICE | Oct 15 21:22 |
| phanes | Helenah, im still on the fence about whether they believe the things they say or if its a largely subconscious thing the really manipulative ones are doing | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Helenah | and I had no idea why but she was telling me I was a child, I was lazy | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Helenah | and that I was using her for everything | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Helenah | and I was like "Woah woah woah where is this coming from?" | Oct 15 21:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me counts the desks | Oct 15 21:22 |
| Helenah | Eventually found out the narcissist had stuck all that in her head... | Oct 15 21:23 |
| phanes | like if you listen to what theyre saying about you long enough you can see how they arrived at that but also can see that's broken and distorted, but it gives the impression they believe it | Oct 15 21:23 |
| techrights-news | You Can Now Install TUXEDO OS on a Regular Computer: Here’s How http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/TUXEDO_Computers_Releases_Live_ISO_of_Its_Ubuntu_Based_TUXEDO_O.shtml | Oct 15 21:23 |
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| Helenah | phanes: They believe it. | Oct 15 21:23 |
| Helenah | I'm telling you, they believe it. | Oct 15 21:23 |
| phanes | i think sometimes they do | Oct 15 21:23 |
| phanes | other times its so obviously a lie that im just like "i know even you don't believe that" | Oct 15 21:24 |
| Helenah | Though yeah, probably some expert manipulators take it further | Oct 15 21:24 |
| Helenah | She didn't know me | Oct 15 21:24 |
| Helenah | She knew me for a MONTH | Oct 15 21:25 |
| Helenah | and already she was trying to get into my life which didn't work because of the barrier | Oct 15 21:25 |
| Helenah | she opened my girlfriend right up though like she took a scapal to her... | Oct 15 21:25 |
| phanes | after a while i started to realize that these people do not have internal compasses for truth and that the things they say are just kind of an amalgamation of defense mechanisms in a broken mind that is so overcompensating for having no foundation that its enough just to give the appearance of normalcy for them | Oct 15 21:25 |
| Helenah | not literally scalpal, it's metaphorical. | Oct 15 21:25 |
| techrights-news | "In this video I cover several difficult to understanding programming concepts to help you gain some new clarity." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=loGWCJGmv7Q | Oct 15 21:25 |
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| Helenah | Well this is how she came across to my gf was "normal" and "genuine" | Oct 15 21:26 |
| Helenah | but I could see right through it | Oct 15 21:26 |
| Helenah | my gf was befriending a devil | Oct 15 21:26 |
| Helenah | but saw a cuddly kitten. | Oct 15 21:26 |
| phanes | i do know this though: they think it's funny | Oct 15 21:26 |
| phanes | at some level they get genuine enjoyment from the damage they cause | Oct 15 21:26 |
| Helenah | I have no front. If you ever met me in real life then what you see is what you get and how it actually is. | Oct 15 21:27 |
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| Helenah | And you will really love that honesty. | Oct 15 21:27 |
| phanes | Helenah, i am much more agreeable in person than on IRC | Oct 15 21:27 |
| phanes | alot of folks i butt heads with on IRC i end up making friends with in person at conventions | Oct 15 21:27 |
| Helenah | Sometimes I'll agree to avoid argument and confrontation | Oct 15 21:28 |
| techrights-news | "The MyDeal site is hosted by Amazon in the US, according to Internet services company Netcraft, and appears to use ASP.NET, technology sold by Microsoft." https://itwire.com/security/woolworths-subsidiary-mydeal-suffers-data-breach,-2-2m-users-affected.html | Oct 15 21:28 |
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| Helenah | You want to know what made this narcissist 10 times worse towards my gf about me? | Oct 15 21:28 |
| Helenah | Is the fact I stood up, had a right yelling at her, slammed her doors on the way out. | Oct 15 21:28 |
| Helenah | Middle finger apparently went up behind my back followed by calling me a child, I was told this later. | Oct 15 21:29 |
| phanes | i had to avoid all of that because any sign or expression of anger was used as a weapon against me to support a big scary man narrative as she was trying to find someone who could be worked up into assaulting me | Oct 15 21:29 |
| Helenah | She got anger once and most the time blanks instead of what she wanted. | Oct 15 21:29 |
| phanes | that didn't start until after the split | Oct 15 21:29 |
| phanes | s/split/discard/ | Oct 15 21:29 |
| phanes | by the time the hoover came around i had processed enough to realize what was going on and had educated myself some on the patterns | Oct 15 21:30 |
| phanes | whole thing backfired on her a bit | Oct 15 21:30 |
| Helenah | I yelled on the way out "YOU DO NOT KNOW ME SO STOP TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH MY LIFE, YOU WONT GET TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME THROUGH ME" | Oct 15 21:30 |
| techrights-news | The above are only some among more fake ‘articles’ found when searching for “Linux”; they’re not actually articles, they’re more like a network of spamfarms; these ZDNet ‘ads’ already taint news sites as noted before http://techrights.org/2022/10/15/diploma-mills-in-techrepublic/ | Oct 15 21:30 |
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| Helenah | I never saw her again. | Oct 15 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Walmart is starting to really piss me off. | Oct 15 21:32 |
| Helenah | I opted for avoidance at all costs. | Oct 15 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sstarting? | Oct 15 21:32 |
| Helenah | DaemonFC: So don't shop there then, it's your choice. | Oct 15 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we boycott asda just because walmart owns it... since it began owning it | Oct 15 21:32 |
| phanes | Helenah, i would like very much to hold that one accountable but am unclear on any means to do so | Oct 15 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Every year they try to bump up Mandy's 401(k) contribution by 1% of his pay, without asking, and you have to go in and select "NO CHANGE". I already have it set at 6%, which is the most they will match. | Oct 15 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | This year they did it, YET AGAIN. | Oct 15 21:33 |
| phanes | i have a very deeply engrained sense of and desire for justice that is left in wanting | Oct 15 21:33 |
| Helenah | DaemonFC: They are getting to you and hurting your head. | Oct 15 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they have like 2 million workers | Oct 15 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if they screw them for $1k a year that's 2 billion more iin profits | Oct 15 21:33 |
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| reptilian_thrills | if they screw them for $1k a year that's 2 billion more iin profit <- thats okay, phanes will teach a few of them how to be morally upstanding | Oct 15 21:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | which seems to consist mostly of talking on the internet about how youre smarter than everyone else | Oct 15 21:34 |
| Helenah | Sometimes I can get firey at my gf phanes I'll admit | Oct 15 21:34 |
| Helenah | But it rarely happens | Oct 15 21:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | and how you dont believe in revolution because its dumb | Oct 15 21:35 |
| phanes | there's nothing wrong with being angry | Oct 15 21:35 |
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| Helenah | Well like the cat going on my surfaces and knocking everything on the floor and her never doing anything about it is my biggest gripe at the moment... | Oct 15 21:35 |
| phanes | what you do when you are angry is whether your anger is a problem or not | Oct 15 21:35 |
| Helenah | And she's like "Well it's a cat" | Oct 15 21:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | fake revolution is better. everyone line up and blow george, look at his cool hat! | Oct 15 21:35 |
| Helenah | and I'm like "Well everything is still going on the floor all the time and you will never pick it up, ever" | Oct 15 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Anything more than they match is a liability. | Oct 15 21:36 |
| Helenah | Cats shouldn't be on surfaces. | Oct 15 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | We're already maxing out the match and the IRS SAVERS CREDIT. | Oct 15 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | So there's no reason to put even $1 more into this thing. | Oct 15 21:36 |
| Helenah | But that aside... | Oct 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yes, the match is the sole incentive | Oct 15 21:36 |
| Helenah | We deeply love each other | Oct 15 21:36 |
| Helenah | Our love is strong | Oct 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | your own contribution might never come back to you | Oct 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's there to cushion a dying economy with gambling | Oct 15 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people setting aside future money to ganble on a syramid scheme and prop it up | Oct 15 21:37 |
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| Helenah | phanes: https://files.catbox.moe/ukvv3c.jpg | Oct 15 21:40 |
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| reptilian_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-5Ae-LhMIG0 | Oct 15 21:41 |
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| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: https://files.catbox.moe/ukvv3c.jpg | Oct 15 21:41 |
| phanes | Helenah, interesting. I'm also O- | Oct 15 21:41 |
| phanes | D3, huh | Oct 15 21:41 |
| Helenah | Though I've just had to tell someone vitamins are not toys and shouldn't just be taken blindly as they were considering to do just that, take it blindly. | Oct 15 21:41 |
| Helenah | Which means unknowingly overdosing on vitamins | Oct 15 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Helenah: trying to understand that | Oct 15 21:41 |
| Helenah | thinking they're some magical health pills | Oct 15 21:42 |
| Helenah | and they're not | Oct 15 21:42 |
| phanes | yeah you gotta be careful with alot of that | Oct 15 21:42 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: It's for the reward system of the brain | Oct 15 21:42 |
| Helenah | I was unknowingly chasing dopamine | Oct 15 21:42 |
| Helenah | phanes: I've known people buy multivitamins to take and they just take them, no blood test, no nothing. | Oct 15 21:42 |
| phanes | i played with my serotonin and dopamine systems a little in my mid-20s and had some good results but i also knew more about that kind of stuff back then | Oct 15 21:42 |
| Helenah | It is annoying! | Oct 15 21:42 |
| phanes | it also wasn't sustainable | Oct 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | exercise | Oct 15 21:43 |
| phanes | i had a potassium deficiency a few years back that almost killed me | Oct 15 21:43 |
| Helenah | phanes: I'm forcing my system to produce more. | Oct 15 21:43 |
| phanes | they didn't notice until i was in like stage 2 hypertension | Oct 15 21:44 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: It's not exercise that's needed. | Oct 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sometimes I make many typos here before I stanb and/or do light exercise | Oct 15 21:44 |
| Helenah | Because what happens in my case is... | Oct 15 21:44 |
| Helenah | One the surge of dopamine is produced | Oct 15 21:44 |
| Helenah | it's taken further around the brain | Oct 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | endorphin | Oct 15 21:44 |
| Helenah | so it's flushed out immediately | Oct 15 21:44 |
| Helenah | but my endorphines aren't the problem. | Oct 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like I said, not my area | Oct 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i'm not a medical doctor, just a phd | Oct 15 21:45 |
| Helenah | Ah | Oct 15 21:45 |
| Helenah | Me neither | Oct 15 21:45 |
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| phanes | ya gotta be careful with sero and dopa systems, if you produce too much of one the other can shut off | Oct 15 21:45 |
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| Helenah | phanes: Yep | Oct 15 21:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway, exercise helps feel good and also does good to the body | Oct 15 21:45 |
| phanes | your brain has all these regulatory functions that are not well understood | Oct 15 21:45 |
| Helenah | Interesting fact, Psychopaths produce too much oxytocin. | Oct 15 21:45 |
| Helenah | Way more than what they need | Oct 15 21:45 |
| Helenah | it's a cuddly love hormone BUT | Oct 15 21:45 |
| Helenah | It can make you a monster if it's high all the time | Oct 15 21:46 |
| phanes | you also have to treat those systems like a circuit, just making more dopa or sero doesn't mean your uptake or consumption in the brain is doing what you think it is | Oct 15 21:46 |
| phanes | you can numb out those receptors by overproducing | Oct 15 21:46 |
| phanes | which then triggers other regulatory functions | Oct 15 21:47 |
| phanes | this is why I believe SSRIs are dangerous and should never be used | Oct 15 21:47 |
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| Helenah | That's fact with with all nutrient. | Oct 15 21:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats what she said | Oct 15 21:48 |
| Helenah | altering the level of one affects the level of others | Oct 15 21:48 |
| Helenah | either through your body not producing enough of it | Oct 15 21:48 |
| Helenah | or through your body not absorbing enough of it | Oct 15 21:48 |
| Helenah | Same goes for other things too | Oct 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | deficiency can be fixed | Oct 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | supplements | Oct 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | excess is another issue | Oct 15 21:48 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: Yes but | Oct 15 21:48 |
| Helenah | that's not listening to what we're saying | Oct 15 21:48 |
| Helenah | Like apparently vitamin C reduces the effectiveness of ADHD meds | Oct 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | o | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | That's resorting to the "supplement" idea | Oct 15 21:49 |
| phanes | if someone has a balanced diet and a deficiency there's usually another cause | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | that everyone buys into | Oct 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | heredetary | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | with no proper basis to why they're doing it | Oct 15 21:49 |
| phanes | this whole idea of a "chemical imbalance" without an external cause seems dubious and dangerous to me | Oct 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *hereditary | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | Yep | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | phanes: Agreed | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | Like I said, I checked things out. | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | most people don't | Oct 15 21:49 |
| Helenah | I went at it seeing it as experimental too | Oct 15 21:50 |
| Helenah | so I wasn't blinding myself | Oct 15 21:50 |
| Helenah | Anyway, I feel better. | Oct 15 21:50 |
| phanes | like when i had a potassium deficiency it i was actually having kidney issues because of a supplement i was taking | Oct 15 21:50 |
| Helenah | hmm | Oct 15 21:50 |
| Helenah | Yep | Oct 15 21:50 |
| phanes | so, sure, supplementation with potassium helped | Oct 15 21:50 |
| Helenah | aldosterone | Oct 15 21:50 |
| phanes | but i needed to stop taking the supplement causing the problem | Oct 15 21:50 |
| Helenah | it regulates sodium and potassium | Oct 15 21:50 |
| Helenah | If your kidneys can't maintain aldosterone levels then your sodium and possassium levels will be wrong | Oct 15 21:51 |
| Helenah | You may end up peeing it all out or not peeing enough | Oct 15 21:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | part of being morally upstanding is knowing who is (naturally) better than everyone else | Oct 15 21:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | like from birth | Oct 15 21:51 |
| Helenah | aldosterone helps you retain water too | Oct 15 21:51 |
| Helenah | so you don't flush too much out in one go | Oct 15 21:51 |
| phanes | reptilian_thrills, "better" sounds like bullshit | Oct 15 21:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | i know it sounds like some colonial bullshit, but actually its really so fucking profound | Oct 15 21:52 |
| phanes | who is "better" than everyone else? blonde haired, blue eyed aryans? | Oct 15 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | pro tip: never give any medical mdetails online | Oct 15 21:52 |
| Helenah | I at current have no latest work on my aldosterone levels phanes | Oct 15 21:52 |
| phanes | the concept that some people are better than everyone else is at the core of most of society's problems tbh | Oct 15 21:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | especially to bill gates | Oct 15 21:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | or github, through your university | Oct 15 21:53 |
| Helenah | And... BAM! | Oct 15 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bully de blanc poudly said she was bipolar | Oct 15 21:53 |
| Helenah | Urea and electrolytes: | Oct 15 21:53 |
| phanes | and always has been | Oct 15 21:53 |
| Helenah | Name Result Normal Range | Oct 15 21:53 |
| Helenah | Serum sodium 141 mmol/L 133 - 146 mmol/L | Oct 15 21:53 |
| Helenah | Serum potassium 4.2 mmol/L 3.5 - 5.3 mmol/L | Oct 15 21:53 |
| Helenah | Serum urea level 4.6 mmol/L 2.5 - 7.8 mmol/L | Oct 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to brag her solutoion was "open source" | Oct 15 21:54 |
| Helenah | Serum creatinine 78 umol/L 45 - 84 umol/L | Oct 15 21:54 |
| Helenah | GFR calculated abbreviated MDRD > 90 ml/min/1.73sqm N/A | Oct 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | of course this was later used against her | Oct 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there are strong data protection laws for medical data for very good reasons | Oct 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and special elevated status to medical info of high-porofile well-kknown people | Oct 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the regimes ned to remind people | Oct 15 21:55 |
| *phanes is pretty sure D3 supplementation would increase a cornucopia of cancer risks btw | Oct 15 21:55 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | your medical privacys is a right | Oct 15 21:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and giving it away is only your own fault | Oct 15 21:55 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | there are many reasons not to discuss that, esp. not online | Oct 15 21:56 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: I don't mind giving it away... | Oct 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to a friend = one person | Oct 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | online=anyone | Oct 15 21:56 |
| Helenah | I want to go into the grave with it all given away... | Oct 15 21:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course this was later used against her <- yeah i dont think pocock had the right | Oct 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Helenah: yes, but you are not obliged to | Oct 15 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're offering Critical Illness insurance. | Oct 15 21:56 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: Correct | Oct 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and youi need to give it away only once | Oct 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and the cat is out of the bag | Oct 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the paste our of the tube | Oct 15 21:57 |
| Helenah | Serum prolactin level: | Oct 15 21:57 |
| Helenah | Name Result Normal Range | Oct 15 21:57 |
| Helenah | Serum prolactin level 544 mU/L < 496 mU/L | Oct 15 21:57 |
| Helenah | :D | Oct 15 21:57 |
| Helenah | haha | Oct 15 21:57 |
| techrights-news | Get stock and crypto price data using shell terminal on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/fetch-stock-quotes-with-perl-finance-quote-module | Oct 15 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/fetch-stock-quotes-with-perl-finance-quote-module ) | Oct 15 21:58 | |
| Helenah | You guys want genetic information too? :D | Oct 15 21:58 |
| Helenah | lol | Oct 15 21:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "UPLOAD YOUR DATA" | Oct 15 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | It says it's a Section 125 plan, under the tax code. That means I can deduct his premiums over the year from our taxable income. $20,000 lump sum payment in the event of a diagnosis of certain illnesses, plus some other benefits thrown in for $2.22 a pay period. ($1.11 per week). So like $57.72 per year. Plus, that's a top-line income tax deduction. | Oct 15 21:58 |
| phanes | i have deliberately avoided being genetically profiled | Oct 15 21:58 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: :D | Oct 15 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Not a terrible offer. | Oct 15 21:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Along the lines of *Show us your tits" [not me] | Oct 15 21:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (meme) | Oct 15 21:58 |
| Helenah | phanes: Lol there are like too many copies of my genome out there to even count! | Oct 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some people uploaded theirt DNA data | Oct 15 21:59 |
| Helenah | What choice do I have? | Oct 15 21:59 |
| Helenah | lol | Oct 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it was later used against their relatives | Oct 15 21:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me finds some nice pictures of tits for roy | Oct 15 21:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | dont worry, i saw them in a tree | Oct 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they wanted to find relatives or somethiing | Oct 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or "help science" | Oct 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they helped police | Oct 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and hurt their loved ones | Oct 15 21:59 |
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| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: I have research grade genome sequencing. | Oct 15 22:00 |
| Helenah | whole genome | Oct 15 22:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/uncle-sam-wants-your-dna-fbi%E2%80%99s-diabolical-plan-create-nation-suspects | Oct 15 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rcreader.com | Uncle Sam Wants Your DNA: The FBI’s Diabolical Plan to Create a Nation of Suspects | River Cities' Reader | Oct 15 22:00 | |
| phanes | https://imagebin.ca/v/6yaVcYHPAdBW | Oct 15 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imagebin.ca | Imagebin - Somewhere to Store Random Things | Oct 15 22:00 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.americanbar.org/groups/judicial/publications/judges_journal/2020/spring/if-you-think-your-dna-anonymous-think-again/ | Oct 15 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.americanbar.org | If You Think Your DNA Is Anonymous, Think Again! | Oct 15 22:01 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05029-9 | Oct 15 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nature.com | The ethics of catching criminals using their family’s DNA | Oct 15 22:01 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/27/magazine/dna-test-crime-identification-genome.html | Oct 15 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How Your DNA Test Could Send a Relative to Jail - The New York Times | Oct 15 22:01 | |
| reptilian_thrills | if-you-think-your-dna-anonymous <- how the fuck could it be | Oct 15 22:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/home-dna-kit-company-asks-you-to-upload-your-family-tree-for-the-fbi/ | Oct 15 22:01 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: You are telling me this like I went to a website and bought a saliva kit... | Oct 15 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Home DNA kit company asks you to upload your family tree for the FBI | ZDNET | Oct 15 22:01 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://futurism.com/neoscope/man-charged-rape-uploading-dna-ancestry | Oct 15 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Man Charged With Rape After Uploading His DNA to Ancestry Site | Oct 15 22:01 | |
| Helenah | I haven't spent a single penny... | Oct 15 22:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | its like a username you can never change, or unlink from yourself | Oct 15 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Partners generally do not qualify as spouses or dependents | Oct 15 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | for federal income tax purposes. Therefore, the value of | Oct 15 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | company‑provided medical (including the HRA) coverage | Oct 15 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | that relates to your partner, or your partner’s children, is | Oct 15 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | generally considered imputed income and taxable to you" | Oct 15 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds like Matt GULAG should step on it and get married. | Oct 15 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | For tax purposes. | Oct 15 22:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | biometric data isnt a password, its a username | Oct 15 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | While he bangs everyone at the open sores conference. | Oct 15 22:02 |
| phanes | DaemonFC, that would be un-anarchist to get married, and it also makes him less disposable so she'd never go for it | Oct 15 22:02 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: You are telling me this like I went to a website and bought a saliva kit... | Oct 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Tools for Linux Users to Not Miss Out On ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Tools_for_Linux_Users_to_Not_Miss_Out_On.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Tools_for_Linux_Users_to_Not_Miss_Out_On.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 22:02 |
| Helenah | I haven't spent a single penny... | Oct 15 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Tools for Linux Users to Not Miss Out On | Oct 15 22:03 | |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: You are telling me this like I went to a website and bought a saliva kit... | Oct 15 22:03 |
| Helenah | I haven't spent a single penny... | Oct 15 22:03 |
| Helenah | lol | Oct 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Tools for Linux Users to Not Miss Out On | Oct 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | what a tool | Oct 15 22:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | linux users are tools? | Oct 15 22:03 |
| starstreak | linucks btw | Oct 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | don't miss out | Oct 15 22:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | "sorry miss" | Oct 15 22:03 |
| Helenah | I'm a linux user. :3 | Oct 15 22:03 |
| Helenah | I ain't no tool | Oct 15 22:03 |
| starstreak | i use arch linucks btw | Oct 15 22:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | in communist russia arch linucks uses you | Oct 15 22:04 |
| Helenah | Who wants to see my chest and spine too while you're looking at my head and inner ear? :D | Oct 15 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Might as well get the insurance that comes pre-tax. | Oct 15 22:04 |
| Helenah | hahaha | Oct 15 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 15 22:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me checks starstreaks laptop for malware | Oct 15 22:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | its over 9000! | Oct 15 22:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | malware, malware everywhere | Oct 15 22:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | attack surface broad | Oct 15 22:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | attack surface broad <- she doesnt like being called that | Oct 15 22:05 |
| Helenah | dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble | Oct 15 22:05 |
| Helenah | dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble dibble dabble | Oct 15 22:05 |
| starstreak | reptilian_thrills, Packages: 1737 (pacman) | Oct 15 22:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | 1737 malware found | Oct 15 22:05 |
| *Helenah huggles up to cat starstreak | Oct 15 22:05 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | leet | Oct 15 22:05 |
| starstreak | :) | Oct 15 22:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | drake meme: attack surface broad <- nahh | Oct 15 22:05 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hamper of chocs | Oct 15 22:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | attach surface dame <- :) | Oct 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Helenah: leave britney ALONE!! | Oct 15 22:06 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: NO! | Oct 15 22:06 |
| starstreak | schestowitz[TR], :) | Oct 15 22:06 |
| starstreak | lol | Oct 15 22:06 |
| *Helenah huggles up to cat starstreak some more | Oct 15 22:06 | |
| starstreak | :3 | Oct 15 22:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | norton is like tech support scam | Oct 15 22:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | we found 1000 malware! | Oct 15 22:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | those are cookies. | Oct 15 22:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | "theyre very malicious cookies!" | Oct 15 22:08 |
| techrights-news | "It is difficult to do stargazing in the evenings in my yard because of all the people walking in and out of the apartment building, and the bright lights when people drive out of their garages" gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221015-0.gmi | Oct 15 22:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre SUPERCOOKIES | Oct 15 22:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | cookie monster? super cookie? | Oct 15 22:08 |
| Helenah | I'm not sure how your DNA can just simply incriminate you. Lets say a knife is found with your DNA on it, just that alone isn't conclusive, there needs to be more than that to go off. | Oct 15 22:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | cookie monster to rescue! OM NOM NOM NOM NOM | Oct 15 22:08 |
| Helenah | As you may have held it but not been the one who used it. | Oct 15 22:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me checks arch linux for cookies | Oct 15 22:09 |
| Helenah | So I don't believe the police would just go off the fact your DNA was on that knife... | Oct 15 22:09 |
| Helenah | I don't buy it... | Oct 15 22:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | OMG, this is crawling with malware! | Oct 15 22:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | there are cookies ALL OVER THE PLACE | Oct 15 22:09 |
| techrights-news | "End-to-end encryption would have to be thwarted by scans on all cell phones." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-chat-control-negotiations-kick-off-commissioner-johansson-defends-controversial-surveillance-law-before-libe-committee/ | Oct 15 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | EU chat control negotiations kick off: Commissioner Johansson defends controversial surveillance law before LIBE committee – Patrick Breyer | Oct 15 22:09 | |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: ^ | Oct 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | k00kies | Oct 15 22:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | your netstat is very infected with internet virus | Oct 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hand of MA K))Ks! | Oct 15 22:10 |
| starstreak | oh noes! not internet virus | Oct 15 22:10 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: cookies aren't classified as malware. | Oct 15 22:10 |
| Helenah | Nor can they be. | Oct 15 22:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | you should connect with the secure vpn to let us diagnose your bank account, i mean computer | Oct 15 22:10 |
| Helenah | Get your facts right about cookies before you make dumb claims... | Oct 15 22:10 |
| Helenah | Jesus | Oct 15 22:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | press the four-flag window key | Oct 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | cookies are bugs | Oct 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not bugs in the cookiees | Oct 15 22:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | and hold down rrrrrrr | Oct 15 22:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | not bugs in the cookiees <- reptilian cookies! | Oct 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hands off MA K00Kies! | Oct 15 22:11 |
| starstreak | rrrrrrrrrrrreptoidz | Oct 15 22:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | cookie monster: "that okay, me not hungry" | Oct 15 22:11 |
| phanes | grubhub thinks taco bell and chipotle sell "tacos" | Oct 15 22:11 |
| Helenah | schestowitz[TR]: So yeah, my genome. :D | Oct 15 22:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me adds reptilian cookie monster to queue | Oct 15 22:12 |
| Helenah | phanes: They don't? o.O | Oct 15 22:12 |
| phanes | hell no | Oct 15 22:12 |
| Helenah | Why have a name like taco bell then?! | Oct 15 22:12 |
| Helenah | Damn | Oct 15 22:12 |
| Helenah | lol | Oct 15 22:12 |
| phanes | i agree | Oct 15 22:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | CRICKETS! OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM | Oct 15 22:12 |
| starstreak | crickets are delicious | Oct 15 22:12 |
| starstreak | deep fried nom nom nom nom | Oct 15 22:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | they stay crunchy even in milk | Oct 15 22:13 |
| Helenah | Listening to Vangelis. :3 | Oct 15 22:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Vangelis is good | Oct 15 22:13 |
| psydruid | The Four Horsemen | Oct 15 22:14 |
| phanes | psydruid, yes? | Oct 15 22:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me opens a reptoid chip shop called "fish n chirps" | Oct 15 22:15 |
| psydruid | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KCbqhJt16k | Oct 15 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=3KCbqhJt16k | Oct 15 22:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.weblibre.org | Aphrodite's Child - The Four Horsemen (video) - Invidious | Oct 15 22:15 | |
| psydruid | Vangelis | Oct 15 22:15 |
| psydruid | Roussos | Oct 15 22:15 |
| phanes | lol i bought a gibson les paul and ever since, every single forced ad on youtube and facebook is a guitar commercial | Oct 15 22:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: may contain potato | Oct 15 22:17 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: The same document that resulted in you finally agreeing to stop deadnaming my partner also provides the appropriate pronouns to describe them | Oct 15 22:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | trace of potato | Oct 15 22:17 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: So I'd appreciate it if you referred to them correctly in that respect | Oct 15 22:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | you got peanut butter in my crickets | Oct 15 22:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | you got crickets in my peanut butter | Oct 15 22:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | butter? gross!!! | Oct 15 22:18 |
| Helenah | mjg59_: Hi :3 | Oct 15 22:18 |
| phanes | hey mjg59_ shut the fuck up | Oct 15 22:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | if your bitter butter makes your batter bitter, get better butter to make your batter better | Oct 15 22:19 |
| Helenah | Woah! | Oct 15 22:19 |
| Helenah | Guys? | Oct 15 22:19 |
| Helenah | :( | Oct 15 22:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | phanes: muting works | Oct 15 22:19 |
| *Helenah has phanes and mjg59_ make out and kiss | Oct 15 22:19 | |
| Helenah | Now be good friends now | Oct 15 22:19 |
| phanes | dude is such a f*cking victim bottom | Oct 15 22:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when pigs fly | Oct 15 22:19 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: Deliberately misgenderng people doesn't make you look like the good guy | Oct 15 22:20 |
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| reptilian_thrills | if a frog had wings he wouldnt bump his arse when he hopped | Oct 15 22:20 |
| phanes | mjg59_, yeah, well, the core of your premise fails because only one of us is resting purely on outward appearances by fabricating slights | Oct 15 22:20 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Oct 15 22:21 |
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| phanes | so put some salt on it and learn to persevere | Oct 15 22:21 |
| mjg59_ | I'm pretty sure I'm not fabricating the fact that you're referring to my partner using female pronouns when they're not female | Oct 15 22:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftovers | Oct 15 22:21 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | when I was 22 people defamed me online | Oct 15 22:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | claiming I had changed genders | Oct 15 22:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | claiming I had changed genders <- its possible mjg was in on that | Oct 15 22:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and at the time mjg59_ was saying transphobic shit, in his words | Oct 15 22:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not me | Oct 15 22:22 |
| Helenah | I am confused cause me and phanes were talking about gender earlier and I found nothing wrong with what they said... | Oct 15 22:22 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Yeah that was inappropriate of the | Oct 15 22:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but now he tries to use that schtick against me | Oct 15 22:22 |
| phanes | mjg59_, yes, yes, in no way are you in a heteronormative cis relationship and misusing a very real cultural movement that very much does need recognized in society to boost your twitter followers to appear relevant | Oct 15 22:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | now he tries to use that schtick against me <- mostly because he considers you a bad ally | Oct 15 22:22 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: I'm pretty clearly not in a heteronormative cis relationship? | Oct 15 22:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | though at least you dont misgender his partner (afaik) | Oct 15 22:22 |
| Helenah | Woah yo guys :( | Oct 15 22:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/ | Oct 15 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights | Oct 15 22:22 | |
| *Helenah cries | Oct 15 22:22 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | imagine they picks on Torvalds for THIS | Oct 15 22:22 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | just amazing | Oct 15 22:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | torvalds is useless | Oct 15 22:23 |
| phanes | mjg59_, you are very clearly in a heteronormative relationship that you are calling something else to posture as a victim occassionally | Oct 15 22:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you would struggle to find ANYTHING sexist he said in 30+ years | Oct 15 22:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | hes done more harm than good | Oct 15 22:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and everything he said is in mailing lists | Oct 15 22:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | to both gnu and to bsd | Oct 15 22:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so ample data set | Oct 15 22:23 |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 15 22:23 | |
| reptilian_thrills | you would struggle to find ANYTHING sexist he said in 30+ years <- too busy selling out to be a bigot | Oct 15 22:23 |
| Helenah | phanes, mjg59_, Is it really that difficult for you to both like start a new with each other putting the past behind you? | Oct 15 22:23 |
| Helenah | I feel like I'm being er... "nosey" | Oct 15 22:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | going back to the 1990s "dumb blonde" jokes culture | Oct 15 22:23 |
| Helenah | but I'm really not trying to... | Oct 15 22:23 |
| Helenah | It's just... all this is happening in this channel. | Oct 15 22:23 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: Uh I'm super unclear on what you're suggesting here - my partner has been out as non-binary since long before I met them | Oct 15 22:23 |
| Helenah | o.o | Oct 15 22:23 |
| Helenah | mjg59_: So is it possible? | Oct 15 22:24 |
| phanes | Helenah, in order for that to be the case he would need to write letters of apology, publicly, to each individual person he has spent his career defaming and fabricating scandals against | Oct 15 22:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | dumb blonde jokes never died | Oct 15 22:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre all "himbo" jokes now | Oct 15 22:24 |
| Helenah | Oh | Oct 15 22:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | himbos are real ofc | Oct 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the 1990s "yo momma so fat" jokes were alxso fashionaable | Oct 15 22:24 |
| phanes | Helenah, https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/ | Oct 15 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abuseonline.org | Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew | Oct 15 22:24 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | now few would make them | Oct 15 22:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | and tbh we still make fun of dumb blondes, only now theyre called kardashians and its cool b/c theyre privileged | Oct 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because of all this culture change | Oct 15 22:24 |
| Helenah | phanes: But how does it affect your mental health if like everytime you encounter mjg59_, you have something like... idk how to put it... to say | Oct 15 22:24 |
| Helenah | like of this nature | Oct 15 22:25 |
| mjg59_ | Helenah: Chris has a bunch of things he objects to about me, but in this case I'm just asking him to stop misgendering y partner | Oct 15 22:25 |
| mjg59_ | Which seems like a pretty easy thing for him to do, so I'm unsure why he's refusing to | Oct 15 22:25 |
| Helenah | phanes: So mjg59_ isn't like debunking what you just said about them. | Oct 15 22:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> in the 1990s "yo momma so fat" jokes <- yo mamma so problematic she gets cancelled from the intellectual dark web | Oct 15 22:25 |
| phanes | Helenah, if you read through that index, you'll see over a decade of him using things much like this to posture as a victim to try to rely on that community to be his internet warrios and he's destroyed his credibility with it | Oct 15 22:25 |
| phanes | like literally nothing this guy says is real | Oct 15 22:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | yo mammas so problematic even stallman bans her | Oct 15 22:26 |
| Helenah | I forgot the "justice" thing you said but now I remember. | Oct 15 22:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | yo mammas so problematic mjg cant even | Oct 15 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you momma so dumb blonde? | Oct 15 22:26 |
| Helenah | phanes: Is this you trying to achieve a justice? | Oct 15 22:26 |
| *Helenah looks | Oct 15 22:26 | |
| mjg59_ | phanes: dude you're pretty clearly on the wrong side of reality in reference to my partner's gender | Oct 15 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | btw, I bring this up partly due to mxo | Oct 15 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | alex oliva | Oct 15 22:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | what has he done now | Oct 15 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | turns out some people dug up messages he sent as a student in brazil | Oct 15 22:27 |
| phanes | mjg59_, i give absolutely zero shits what you or your partner call themselves or anything else | Oct 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with some dumb blonde jokes | Oct 15 22:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | oh for gods sake | Oct 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe 1980s | Oct 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or 90s | Oct 15 22:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | wait, thats not new | Oct 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to discredit or blackmail him | Oct 15 22:27 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: If you give zero shits, then using the correct pronouns costs you nothing, right? | Oct 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to secure the rms "cancel move" | Oct 15 22:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> to discredit or blackmail him <- that reminds me of the uhf scene where weird al goes through al capones glove compartment | Oct 15 22:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | "AHAAA! ROOOAD MAPS!!!!!!" | Oct 15 22:27 |
| phanes | mjg59_, stop victim posturing or you'll just simply be ridiculed and ignored until you're contributing productively | Oct 15 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Great. The server crashed before I could finish the application. | Oct 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE WHAT RICHARD SAID IN 1970!!!" | Oct 15 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart LOVES Microsoft. | Oct 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it does | Oct 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even cross-pollinatinng | Oct 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the managers | Oct 15 22:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | alex oliva was a HUGE transphobe 20 years ago | Oct 15 22:28 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: I'm unclear on how asking you to gender my partner correctly is *me* being a victim | Oct 15 22:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | he and i ran a camp to reeducate them into cishets | Oct 15 22:28 |
| phanes | mjg59_, nobody's buying your shit man. give it up. | Oct 15 22:28 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: Dude there is something extremely wrong with you | Oct 15 22:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | in rio de janiero | Oct 15 22:28 |
| phanes | mjg59_, yet here i am completely unmoved, how about that. | Oct 15 22:29 |
| Helenah | o.o | Oct 15 22:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | we kept them all in shock collars (for their protection) and kuhn was the warden | Oct 15 22:29 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: Eh. If you want to look transphobic it's your choice | Oct 15 22:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean head counselor | Oct 15 22:29 |
| phanes | mjg59_, nobody buys that shit either. | Oct 15 22:30 |
| phanes | you're used up | Oct 15 22:30 |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Oct 15 22:30 | |
| frog | i want to fully remove GNU toolchain and GNU buildsystem, and rollback linux to v2.4 if possible | Oct 15 22:30 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: I've asked you to gender my partner correctly, you've refused, I guess we're done | Oct 15 22:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | even cross-pollinatinng <- is that what they call it now | Oct 15 22:30 |
| starstreak | phanes, I'm trans and I think you're being transphobic | Oct 15 22:30 |
| phanes | mjg59_, you were done 5 years ago man. im still going just fine. | Oct 15 22:30 |
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| frog | i don't care if you're all trans or homo | Oct 15 22:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ has done nothing significant for years | Oct 15 22:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | anyway, there was a rebellioin, they all broke loose and now half of brazil is trans | Oct 15 22:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | did not even marry | Oct 15 22:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but spent years here in irc, venting | Oct 15 22:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | so basically we lost. but im not mad, i actually think they were right all along | Oct 15 22:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | we made some mistakes | Oct 15 22:31 |
| psydruid | except being a Microsoft booster and future Microsoft employee | Oct 15 22:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | and future Microsoft employee <- this is funny but i doubt it | Oct 15 22:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | i get the "he already works for microsoft" angle | Oct 15 22:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | its one of those things thats true a certain way, just not literally | Oct 15 22:32 |
| Helenah | Paolo Bonzini noticed something a little awkward in the Linux kernel support code for Microsoft's HyperV virtualisation environment - specifically, that the magic constant passed through to the hypervisor was "0xB16B00B5", or, in English, "BIG BOOBS". It turns out that this isn't an exception - when the code was originally submitted it also contained "0x0B00B135". That one got | Oct 15 22:32 |
| Helenah | removed when the Xen support code was ripped out. | Oct 15 22:32 |
| Helenah | At the most basic level it's just straightforward childish humour, and the use of vaguely-English strings in magic hex constants is hardly uncommon. But it's also specifically male childish humour. Puerile sniggering at breasts contributes to the continuing impression that software development is a boys club where girls aren't welcome. It's especially irritating in this case | Oct 15 22:32 |
| Helenah | because Azure may depend on this constant, so changing it will break things. | Oct 15 22:32 |
| Helenah | So, full marks, Microsoft. You've managed to make the kernel more offensive to half the population and you've made it awkward for us to rectify it. | Oct 15 22:32 |
| Helenah | So erm... and how would this affect and offend me? | Oct 15 22:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | dfc worked for them | Oct 15 22:32 |
| Helenah | Why would I make this a problem for myself if I ever saw such in code? | Oct 15 22:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | i always assumed in a less limited capacity | Oct 15 22:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | due partly to not knowing exactly what a microsoft mvp was | Oct 15 22:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | if id been cynical enough (point for mincer) i could have guessed | Oct 15 22:33 |
| phanes | mjg59_, btw on a completely unrelated topic, how is drafting those apology letters going? | Oct 15 22:33 |
| Helenah | mjg59_: Is your name Paolo Bonzini? | Oct 15 22:34 |
| mjg59_ | Helenah: No | Oct 15 22:34 |
| phanes | mjg59_, i also assume these letters will include retractions for the lies you've told about people | Oct 15 22:34 |
| psydruid | It's me, Paolo | Oct 15 22:34 |
| psydruid | Or no | Oct 15 22:35 |
| techrights-news | People write proprietary software just for a salary. No personal pride or recognition in it. | Oct 15 22:35 |
| psydruid | It's me, Mario | Oct 15 22:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me wonders who actually thinks it fucking matters that oliva made some dumb blonde jokes | Oct 15 22:35 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: I remain unaware of any lies I've told about people. | Oct 15 22:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | 20-30 years ago | Oct 15 22:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | sarah mei | Oct 15 22:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | grand inquisitor | Oct 15 22:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | ice | Oct 15 22:36 |
| phanes | mjg59_, you can pretend that but literally anyone who can read and has an internet connection has an indexed list of just the ones i know about and have documented in an indexed, chronological order | Oct 15 22:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | so she knows all about going after south americans, eh | Oct 15 22:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | "get back on your side of the wall!" | Oct 15 22:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | "fence" | Oct 15 22:37 |
| phanes | mjg59_, you can deny that you are aware of this, but I know factually that you have seen it many times | Oct 15 22:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | "your side of the fence!" | Oct 15 22:37 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: Me calling Kevin Kofler a dick is a lie? | Oct 15 22:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | what do we want? fence! when do we want it? fence! | Oct 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mei oh mei! | Oct 15 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Today in Techrights | Oct 15 22:37 | |
| phanes | mjg59_, no that's just you cherry picking a detail out of context when you found yourself unable or unwilling to address the totality of what was said | Oct 15 22:37 |
| starstreak | reptilian_thrills, attack surface btw! :D | Oct 15 22:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | 1700 malware and counting | Oct 15 22:38 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: Ok, so you're not saying that your list is totally a list of me saying lies. Can you let me know what subset of the list contains me telling lies? | Oct 15 22:38 |
| phanes | mjg59_, if you can't bring yourself to be an honest person, bring yourself to be a much quieter person -- you are outclassed and no amount of misrepresentation will win you any battles with me. | Oct 15 22:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me runs malware updates | Oct 15 22:38 |
| techrights-news | (How do you pronounce BeOS?) https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/10/going-where-beos-netpositive-hasnt-gone.html | Oct 15 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oldvcr.blogspot.com | Old Vintage Computing Research: Going where BeOS NetPositive hasn't gone before: NetPositive+ | Oct 15 22:39 | |
| phanes | mjg59_, there's just not an argument to have. improve or fade into obscurity and shame. | Oct 15 22:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | sarah mei: if you dont fire stallman and oliva imma put oliva in a concentration camp because hes not progressive enough! | Oct 15 22:39 |
| techrights-news | World's first fusion reactor will be open in UK by 2040 ⚓ https://interestingengineering.com/science/uk-to-get-fusion-2040 ䷉ Source: Interesting Engineering | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//interestingengineering.com/science/uk-to-get-fusion-2040 | Oct 15 22:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | okay eva braun, calm the fuck down | Oct 15 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-interestingengineering.com | World's first fusion reactor will be open in UK by 2040 | Oct 15 22:39 | |
| mjg59_ | phanes: I'm sorry to break it to you, but other than you literally nobody cares about you | Oct 15 22:39 |
| Helenah | Rise up like a tower, allow the wind to strengthen your back as it blows you about | Oct 15 22:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me checks sarah meis roots | Oct 15 22:39 |
| Helenah | Come back ever bigger and stronger | Oct 15 22:39 |
| phanes | mjg59_, good thing it's not about me, then; you are failing to hit your mark. | Oct 15 22:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | you never know... | Oct 15 22:39 |
| Helenah | mjg59_: I don't care about phanes? o.O | Oct 15 22:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | you can only make fun of dumb blondes when theyre alt-right | Oct 15 22:40 |
| Helenah | Then why was I touched by his NPD story? | Oct 15 22:40 |
| techrights-news | Just boycott Walmart. It hates people, why should people tolerate that? https://retailwire.com/discussion/walmart-makes-a-deal-to-automate-and-own-the-last-mile/ | Oct 15 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Walmart makes a deal to automate and own the last mile - RetailWire | Oct 15 22:40 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: ^ | Oct 15 22:40 |
| Helenah | Where as you on the other hand, I don't really know you at all. | Oct 15 22:40 |
| phanes | that would be the "obscurity" blade on the "obscurity and shame" sword | Oct 15 22:41 |
| Helenah | Oh | Oct 15 22:41 |
| mjg59_ | Helenah: You should consider the possibility that he's lying about it | Oct 15 22:41 |
| phanes | oh, am I a big liar now? | Oct 15 22:41 |
| Helenah | mjg59_: But I can't prove it or disprove it. | Oct 15 22:41 |
| phanes | lol "this 3rd party archive list of events is a lie" | Oct 15 22:41 |
| mjg59_ | Helenah: True! But he did write a lengthy series of blog posts about it and then weirdly removed his name from it | Oct 15 22:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | faux news: dumb blondes | Oct 15 22:42 |
| phanes | like it's even sourced | Oct 15 22:42 |
| Helenah | mjg59_: But that could mean anything. | Oct 15 22:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | entire democratic party: sacred | Oct 15 22:42 |
| Helenah | Like I can't find out why phanes would do that, nor can you. | Oct 15 22:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | everyone connected to ice: mixed bag | Oct 15 22:42 |
| Helenah | We don't know phanes in real life. | Oct 15 22:42 |
| mjg59_ | He's also lied about not altering the contents of a Twitter account | Oct 15 22:43 |
| phanes | mjg59_, one of us has a long and documented history of exposing bad actors and the other has a long and documented history of being called out for lying about people | Oct 15 22:43 |
| Helenah | But phanes claims you lie so. | Oct 15 22:43 |
| *Helenah shrugs | Oct 15 22:43 | |
| mjg59_ | When actually he renamed that twitter account and deleted some tweets from it | Oct 15 22:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | He's also lied about not altering the contents of a Twitter account <- i hope you sent him to the principals office | Oct 15 22:43 |
| phanes | like you literally have no power here | Oct 15 22:43 |
| mjg59_ | And then created another account under the original name | Oct 15 22:43 |
| phanes | it won't work | Oct 15 22:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | i would write a note to his parents | Oct 15 22:43 |
| mjg59_ | Which isn't a big deal, other than the repeated claims that he didn't do that | Oct 15 22:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | Which isn't a big deal, other than the repeated claims that he didn't do that <- agreed | Oct 15 22:44 |
| mjg59_ | Like, dude, just admit you created a twitter account to harass people under someone else's name | Oct 15 22:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | fwiw i honestly find it hard to trust oliva. im not sure hes dishonest (in any broad or meaningful way) | Oct 15 22:44 |
| Helenah | I'm going to be honest here... | Oct 15 22:44 |
| Helenah | You seem to be calling each other the same thing, a liar. | Oct 15 22:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | to harass people under someone else's name <- it would be better to admit who he was harassing, if harassing them was so important | Oct 15 22:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | who was he harassing? | Oct 15 22:44 |
| Helenah | How am I... supposed to make sense of that? D | Oct 15 22:45 |
| Helenah | :D | Oct 15 22:45 |
| Helenah | I can't! | Oct 15 22:45 |
| phanes | every time he does this i work on presenting the content a little more cleanly to highlight the pattern in a more obvious way | Oct 15 22:46 |
| Helenah | reptilian_thrills: I've also changed my name on accounts but there was certainly no sinister reason to me doing so. | Oct 15 22:46 |
| *phanes clears his schedule | Oct 15 22:46 | |
| Helenah | So why would I take your reason for phanes changing name on an account as the valid one? | Oct 15 22:46 |
| starstreak | Smoke weed every day | Oct 15 22:47 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: He created a twitter account called void_witch2 to harass people who signed the RMS letter, when void_witch belonged to one of the people who had signed it | Oct 15 22:47 |
| Helenah | Even if you said the reason was non-sinister, why would I take that reason as a valid one? | Oct 15 22:47 |
| phanes | and there's a new entry | Oct 15 22:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | when void_witch belonged to one of the people who had signed it <- this is poor form imo | Oct 15 22:47 |
| mjg59_ | Helenah: https://web.archive.org/web/20161203110759/http://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/ is the weird blog website | Oct 15 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement | Oct 15 22:47 | |
| reptilian_thrills | also i didnt know he was harassing people who signed the letter :) | Oct 15 22:48 |
| phanes | i wasn't | Oct 15 22:48 |
| mjg59_ | Helenah: If you visit the live copy at http://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/ every reference to "Chris Punches" has been replaced with "Jerry Thibodeau" | Oct 15 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com | The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement | Oct 15 22:48 | |
| phanes | that's just a twist he adds to it | Oct 15 22:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me smiles inside | Oct 15 22:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | but in all seriousness i have no idea what he said so | Oct 15 22:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | some of it may be unfair | Oct 15 22:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | like i get why roy points so many unfair/unsubstantiated claims at you | Oct 15 22:49 |
| phanes | its a defensive fabrication he's created to justify his initial defamation of me | Oct 15 22:49 |
| techrights-news | "The planned “European Digital Identity” is intended to give EU citizens access to public and private digital services and enable them to pay online" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/european-digital-identity-eu-parliament-wants-decentralized-data-storage-and-right-to-anonymity/ | Oct 15 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | European Digital Identity: EU Parliament wants decentralized data storage and right to anonymity – Patrick Breyer | Oct 15 22:49 | |
| reptilian_thrills | its sort of divine justice because... i mean assuming you did anything like that | Oct 15 22:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | but just because youre the local face of the cancel mob doesnt mean we can blame you for everything either | Oct 15 22:49 |
| techrights-news | “In these times of war, it is absolutely crucial to still be able to make anonymous payments to support those that are the most at risk of being persecuted." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/pirates-are-against-the-new-rules-on-crypto-assets-which-will-ban-anonymous-payments/ | Oct 15 22:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | unless thats also part of the joke... | Oct 15 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Pirates are against the new rules on crypto assets which will ban anonymous payments – Patrick Breyer | Oct 15 22:49 | |
| reptilian_thrills | but tbh i dont think its anything as clever as that | Oct 15 22:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think its not ironic scapegoating (which i would find funny) but actual scapegoating | Oct 15 22:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | and my biggest problem with that isnt that its unfair to you of course | Oct 15 22:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | its that its too fair to EVERYONE ELSE | Oct 15 22:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | its like if 1000 people shot a guy and you execute the one that drove the car | Oct 15 22:51 |
| Helenah | So who is Chris and who is Courtney? | Oct 15 22:51 |
