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| kingoffrance | "does that make them the opium smugglers of the masses?" where i come from they like meth :D | Mar 16 00:30 |
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| matey | /me skips the obvious one about a meth to their madness | Mar 16 00:32 |
| techrights-news | "Dublin is not a great city to ride in but the bike is still faster and cheaper than the bus. Hopefully they continue to expand the program and add more stations further from city centre." gemini://sixohthree.com/log/dublin-bikes.gmi | Mar 16 00:32 |
| matey | wait, methodist... damn | Mar 16 00:33 |
| techrights-news | Gopher: "It is with no doubt, that the phlogosphere is shrinking. This time the (ir)regular Bongusta maintenance was a real slaughter. 17 of the 75 aggregated phlogs didn't have any update in the 2021, were obviously abandoned" gopher://i-logout.cz:70/0/phlog/posts/2022-03-13_bongusta_update_march_2022.txt | Mar 16 00:34 |
| kingoffrance | lol i'll just say lee did not surprise me... | Mar 16 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | andrew lee? | Mar 16 00:38 |
| kingoffrance | there's some kind of partnership, who knows | Mar 16 00:38 |
| kingoffrance | yes | Mar 16 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, did I miss something? | Mar 16 00:38 |
| kingoffrance | no, ignore me, just ranting | Mar 16 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | irc was busy this past day, so I lack content, must have overlooked something | Mar 16 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | searched backlog for andrew | Mar 16 00:39 |
| kingoffrance | there's some right wing thug mentality in certain circles | Mar 16 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode not mentioned | Mar 16 00:39 |
| kingoffrance | "conservatives" for drugs | Mar 16 00:39 |
| matey | thug mentality? | Mar 16 00:39 |
| kingoffrance | western civilization is at stake! | Mar 16 00:40 |
| kingoffrance | my kingdom IS of this world lol | Mar 16 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | thugs is slattery to them | Mar 16 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | thugs are thick | Mar 16 00:40 |
| kingoffrance | what did reagan do? | Mar 16 00:40 |
| kingoffrance | its not new | Mar 16 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the more dangerous are the sleek sleazy ones | Mar 16 00:40 |
| kingoffrance | if it fights commies, drugs are cool | Mar 16 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | who know how to get away with crimes, unlike thugs | Mar 16 00:40 |
| kingoffrance | did i catch a democrat? lets run a prostitution ring | Mar 16 00:40 |
| kingoffrance | "values" all disappear when there's an election at stake | Mar 16 00:41 |
| matey | they were only a convenience | Mar 16 00:41 |
| MinceR | they existed? | Mar 16 00:41 |
| matey | its like changing desktop wallpaper | Mar 16 00:41 |
| matey | desktop wallpaper is a fun one | Mar 16 00:41 |
| matey | youd think wallpaper would be on a wall, not on a desk | Mar 16 00:42 |
| matey | but on a computer this makes sense now | Mar 16 00:42 |
| matey | desktop wallpaper-- why not? | Mar 16 00:42 |
| matey | web browser toilet paper | Mar 16 00:43 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 16 00:43 |
| kingoffrance | i am not suggesting the other "side" is any different. just when people think they are being 'attacked' anything goes... | Mar 16 00:44 |
| matey | emoji /me throws someone out of the queue | Mar 16 00:44 |
| matey | "whats all this then?" | Mar 16 00:44 |
| matey | "he was attacking me" | Mar 16 00:44 |
| matey | "attacking you? he was just standing there" | Mar 16 00:44 |
| matey | "well, he was standing in my way" | Mar 16 00:45 |
| matey | "i dont follow you, friend" | Mar 16 00:45 |
| matey | "its an election year!" | Mar 16 00:45 |
| matey | kingoffrance: i think its much worse than that. its not just elections, its any opportunity of significant proportions, regardless of the season | Mar 16 00:46 |
| matey | elections do happen to be (some sort of) opportunity of significant proportions | Mar 16 00:47 |
| matey | libreplanet for example, isnt an election (as far as i know) | Mar 16 00:48 |
| matey | it seems to be THE opportunity for revolutionary (or counterrevolutionary) struggles within the free software world though | Mar 16 00:48 |
| matey | 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022 | Mar 16 00:49 |
| matey | like if backstabbers moved christmas to a time that worked better with their-- actually isnt libreplanet in december already? | Mar 16 00:49 |
| matey | oh no, it is in march! coming up soon | Mar 16 00:50 |
| techrights-news | "A vaccine can take more than 10 years to fully develop" http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/vaccine-development.jpg | Mar 16 00:56 |
| techrights-news | Use neither. Use a real phone, not a spying machine (that can also make calls). https://www.maketecheasier.com/block-number-android-iphone/ | Mar 16 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Block a Number on Android and iPhone - Make Tech Easier | Mar 16 00:57 | |
| techrights-news | "Last night I built EasyOS 3.4.2 and uploaded it ...woke up this morning and decided to test it a bit more before announcing. Aaaargh! ...the Dunfell desktop in a container doesn't work!" https://bkhome.org/news/202203/xephyr-nested-server-missing.html | Mar 16 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Xephyr nested server missing | Mar 16 00:58 | |
| immibis | "A vaccine can take more than 10 years to fully develop" yeah, fully. This is tech, we know how useful prototypes can be, and how many hacks pass testing and make it into production and work just fine. Who writes these things? | Mar 16 01:05 |
| matey | /me puts more tape on the tcp/ip stack | Mar 16 01:06 |
| matey | thanks ive been meaning to get around to that | Mar 16 01:06 |
| matey | then again, medical protoypes have had their ups and downs | Mar 16 01:07 |
| matey | so has the t key on his keyboard | Mar 16 01:07 |
| matey | imagine if you could just replace the little rubber domes every year or two | Mar 16 01:09 |
| matey | theyre not even hard to remove or put back | Mar 16 01:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | a few faulty keys spoil the whole keyboard | Mar 16 01:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | and you are better off buying a new one | Mar 16 01:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | doing backups and tidying up file systems tonight | Mar 16 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | turns out thousands were reading the articles about DDG yesterday | Mar 16 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | we must be doing very heavy damage to DDG | Mar 16 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of view every day for years | Mar 16 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | DDG is a Microsoft funnel | Mar 16 01:16 |
| kingoffrance | matey, well its the left/right nonsense | Mar 16 01:17 |
| kingoffrance | if you arent with me, DESTROY | Mar 16 01:17 |
| kingoffrance | *if in my little one dimensional view you are not with me | Mar 16 01:18 |
| matey | surely theres a point to fighting if you know what youre doing | Mar 16 01:18 |
| kingoffrance | ^ yes, thats a big assumption | Mar 16 01:18 |
| matey | though its hard to know what youre doing when everything gets reduced to red team blue team | Mar 16 01:18 |
| matey | since the real world is nothing like that | Mar 16 01:19 |
| kingoffrance | there used to be a trinity to prevent that is the irony | Mar 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | kingoffrance: it's a binary/dual divide and rule | Mar 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | in India the British did that | Mar 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | Islam and Hundu | Mar 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | in Iraq, shia and sunni | Mar 16 01:19 |
| matey | the british were worth defeating though | Mar 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it helps distract from real occupiers | Mar 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | people are busy trying to classify everyone | Mar 16 01:20 |
| matey | but their classification sucks | Mar 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | people tried that against techrights of course | Mar 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | because we focus on the real issue | Mar 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they would rather we play with poo | Mar 16 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and offend people | Mar 16 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not corporations but people | Mar 16 01:21 |
| matey | people matter more than corporations? | Mar 16 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, not the point | Mar 16 01:21 |
| matey | oh thats not the real issue | Mar 16 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean, don't frame it like that | Mar 16 01:22 |
| matey | whats the real issue? | Mar 16 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | people have feelings | Mar 16 01:22 |
| matey | "not corporations but people" sounded like a good start at least | Mar 16 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporations and money are made-up concepts | Mar 16 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you could in theory eliminate or replace them | Mar 16 01:22 |
| matey | except they hold the most power | Mar 16 01:23 |
| matey | even though they are made up | Mar 16 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | their relationship to living beings does matter | Mar 16 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | or technology and people | Mar 16 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | like how people get attached to an "instagram account" | Mar 16 01:23 |
| matey | and if people want to stand up to corporations and their abuses, then what? | Mar 16 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 years ago nobody was very attachd to a phone | Mar 16 01:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR | at best they add an address book | Mar 16 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a number/sim card | Mar 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | which you could recover or reclaim at the barrier | Mar 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case of device loss | Mar 16 01:24 |
| matey | 40 years ago you were only attached to a phone until you hung up | Mar 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | or if you hung yourelf | Mar 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | unles the police came | Mar 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a relative | Mar 16 01:24 |
| matey | hanging up seems less drastic | Mar 16 01:24 |
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| matey | but again, if people want to stand up to corporations and their abuses, then what? | Mar 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, dark humour | Mar 16 01:25 |
| matey | sure, no problem | Mar 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, iirc ian murdoch used the vacuum cleaner's cord for hanging | Mar 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and had no shirt on | Mar 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the account I saw was correct | Mar 16 01:25 |
| matey | i thought ian murdock was one of the good guys | Mar 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | *urdock | Mar 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | ouch | Mar 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | force of habit | Mar 16 01:26 |
| matey | yeah the aussie | Mar 16 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he will outlive kissinger | Mar 16 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 15 years more? | Mar 16 01:26 |
| kingoffrance | i hope i dont sound too negative, just seems so many things were already encountered centuries ago and forgotten and things have to repeat | Mar 16 01:26 |
| matey | we can race him against github | Mar 16 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | github won't last 15 years | Mar 16 01:26 |
| matey | kingoffrance: the early 1900s especially | Mar 16 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 15 is a long time | Mar 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the arctic vault will be some old joke | Mar 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like hitler's bunker | Mar 16 01:27 |
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| matey | with you on the arctic vault | Mar 16 01:27 |
| matey | thats a marketing gimmick | Mar 16 01:27 |
| kingoffrance | i thought he wanted to go there lol | Mar 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just that | Mar 16 01:27 |
| kingoffrance | i read too many weird things lol | Mar 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | tecgright explained it at the time | Mar 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was a PR stunt to distract from ICE | Mar 16 01:27 |
| matey | at least you read, kingoffrance | Mar 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of shithub workers, inc. managers, were fleeing in droves | Mar 16 01:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR | so they had to change the news cycle | Mar 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "meta" did with "metaverse" | Mar 16 01:28 |
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| matey | or fsf did with new executive director | Mar 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | that stoped haugen or whateever her name wa | Mar 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | *stopped | Mar 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | cut off the rage cycle | Mar 16 01:28 |
| matey | i mean they had to announce it | Mar 16 01:28 |
| matey | but right when people were like "why no rms" | Mar 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf distracted from nothing at the time | Mar 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless it was us saying something about no RMS talk | Mar 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | later in the same day came the announcement | Mar 16 01:29 |
| matey | libreplanet does seem to be the point where everyone (on either side) hates the fsf that much more | Mar 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot prove it, but something is amiss for LF/IRC | Mar 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and IRS | Mar 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when it's brought up LF flings the whole pipeline at a wall | Mar 16 01:30 |
| matey | it would be news if something at lf was NOT amiss | Mar 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I think it's a thorn on their side | Mar 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | can someone contact LF to ask? | Mar 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot, obviously... | Mar 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am on their naughty list | Mar 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | ask them why no IRS filing for so long | Mar 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and see what they say | Mar 16 01:30 |
| matey | ariadne seems to be on their good side | Mar 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's check the let's encrypt filings | Mar 16 01:30 |
| matey | not that she seems to be a huge fan | Mar 16 01:31 |
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| schestowitz-TR | backup complete for images in techrights 2020-2022 | Mar 16 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | 24,000 files, 3.1gb | Mar 16 01:31 |
| matey | "cut off the rage cycle" this is well said | Mar 16 01:32 |
| matey | it seems to be a habit of the tech press-- turn even "protest" into a "parade" | Mar 16 01:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are methods | Mar 16 01:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | they hire "crisis management" experts | Mar 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | who build their name based on how they handle crises | Mar 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "outcomes" | Mar 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the EPO hired some | Mar 16 01:34 |
| matey | then all that needed is a steady stream of crises | Mar 16 01:34 |
| matey | and whoever "manages" those the best gets a free ride to anywhere they want | Mar 16 01:34 |
| matey | microsoft can even cause them, and still profit from their own messes. how else do you explain windows | Mar 16 01:35 |
| matey | not just windows of course, but for the classic example | Mar 16 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | weird | Mar 16 01:35 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I cannot find let's encrypt | Mar 16 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't suppose it was removed | Mar 16 01:35 |
| matey | removed from what? | Mar 16 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking into ford foundation now | Mar 16 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | irs registry | Mar 16 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | nonprofits | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's encrypt is LF proxy | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | same address | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | same accountant | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | same everything | Mar 16 01:36 |
| Ariadne | yes | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/131684331/201913199349101266/IRS990PF | Mar 16 01:36 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: propublica.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/131684331/201913199349101266/IRS990PF | Mar 16 01:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-projects.propublica.org | Nonprofit Explorer - FORD FOUNDATION - Form 990PF - ProPublica | Mar 16 01:36 | |
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| matey | we need you to go undercover at linux foundation | Mar 16 01:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 01:36 |
| Ariadne | not there anymore | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | internet Security Research Group | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | 1 Letterman Drive | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Suite D4700 | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | San Francisco,CA94129NONEPCCore support for the Lets Encrypt initiative to distribute free digital certificates to improve internet security for all internet users150,000 | Mar 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz | Ford | Mar 16 01:37 |
| MinceR | Our Ford? | Mar 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ford the Nazu dude | Mar 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | sympathsieer of The Adolf | Mar 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the cheeto one | Mar 16 01:37 |
| matey | he would have loved ibm | Mar 16 01:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR | now they rebrand Ford as tech |"philathropist" | Mar 16 01:37 |
| Ariadne | idk what the obsession with LE is tho, generally speaking more democratic access to the x509 system seems desirable | Mar 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | he also gave money to Reproducuble Builds | Mar 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of things | Mar 16 01:38 |
| matey | ariadne, its this or apple m1 | Mar 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: better than what was before | Mar 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it used to cost a lot | Mar 16 01:38 |
| Ariadne | anyway LF is not a charity | Mar 16 01:39 |
| Ariadne | they are 501c6 | Mar 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Mar 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | tax exempt | Mar 16 01:39 |
| matey | apple foundation | Mar 16 01:39 |
| matey | we promote linux with apple | Mar 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/463344200_201812_990_2019110116809348.pdf | Mar 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just need their ID # | Mar 16 01:40 |
| Ariadne | i mean i must say itβs pretty amusing that zemlin talks about the year of the linux desktop while using macs | Mar 16 01:40 |
| matey | it is hilarious | Mar 16 01:41 |
| matey | but thats why he says "desktop" when hes not using a desktop | Mar 16 01:41 |
| matey | these qualifiers are important you know | Mar 16 01:41 |
| matey | the financial report was made on a laptop, we never said it was the year of the linux laptop | Mar 16 01:41 |
| schestowitz | https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=463344200&name=Internet%20Security%20Research%20Group&city=San%20Francisco&state=CA&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=CHARITIES,%20DETERMINATIONLETTERS,%20COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=CHARITIES&orgTags=DETERMINATIONLETTERS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS | Mar 16 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=463344200&name=Internet%20Security%20Research%20Group&city=San%20Francisco&state=CA&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=CHARITIES,%20DETERMINATIONLETTERS,%20COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=CHARITIES&orgTags=DETERMINATIONLETTERS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS ) | Mar 16 01:42 | |
| schestowitz | last form was 2019 | Mar 16 01:42 |
| schestowitz | more recent than LF | Mar 16 01:42 |
| schestowitz | LF is 1018 | Mar 16 01:42 |
| schestowitz | LF is 2018 | Mar 16 01:42 |
| schestowitz | and then nothing | Mar 16 01:42 |
| schestowitz | "Page Last Reviewed or Updated: 20-November-2020" | Mar 16 01:42 |
| schestowitz | maybe IRS returned it them for revisions/correction, but that cannot take too long | Mar 16 01:42 |
| Ariadne | this kde maui stuff looks nice. canβt wait to try it on my honeycomb | Mar 16 01:43 |
| matey | maybe they increased their stealth by moving to scunthorpe | Mar 16 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | Stephanie Eigle handles these forms for LE | Mar 16 01:43 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: de Icazs was accused of stealing the name | Mar 16 01:44 |
| schestowitz | maui was made by mexians of nitruxOS | Mar 16 01:44 |
| schestowitz | and then came miguel making "MAUI" | Mar 16 01:44 |
| schestowitz | some .NET thing | Mar 16 01:44 |
| Ariadne | yes i know | Mar 16 01:44 |
| schestowitz | nitrux was fuming | Mar 16 01:44 |
| matey | "you have the following coc violations: a locale with inappropriate or sexualised language" | Mar 16 01:44 |
| Ariadne | hince why i clarified which one i was talking about | Mar 16 01:44 |
| schestowitz | and then Microsoft GItHub suspended people who complained | Mar 16 01:44 |
| schestowitz | because Microsoft GitHub totally doesn't censor Microsoft critics :D | Mar 16 01:45 |
| Ariadne | techrights censors mjg59 | Mar 16 01:45 |
| Ariadne | what is your point | Mar 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | jjust to be clear about LE | Mar 16 01:45 |
| matey | thats was lifted, no? | Mar 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | the only reason I checked was,t | Mar 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | to see if they have more recent forms than LF | Mar 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | beause LF acts a little weird when the subject is brought up | Mar 16 01:45 |
| mjg59_ | matey: No, Roy refuses to publish articles I write | Mar 16 01:46 |
| Ariadne | admittedly i am curious about the LE financials | Mar 16 01:46 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Despite accepting articles from other guest writers | Mar 16 01:46 |
| matey | his editorial policy is unclear | Mar 16 01:46 |
| matey | he alludes to it being based on trust | Mar 16 01:46 |
| Ariadne | because LE is such a critical infrastructure at this point | Mar 16 01:46 |
| mjg59_ | Debian no longer trusts Pocock, so stopped publishing him on Planet Debian | Mar 16 01:46 |
| matey | the real fun would be creating a clear editorial policy that wasnt a code fo conduct | Mar 16 01:46 |
| matey | i believe its possible, but also unlikely. | Mar 16 01:46 |
| mjg59_ | Censorship or reasonable editorial decision? | Mar 16 01:46 |
| matey | hey im guessing, just like you | Mar 16 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | abtterinternet.org | Mar 16 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | is the official site | Mar 16 01:47 |
| mjg59_ | And then when people ask Roy about it he changes topic | Mar 16 01:47 |
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| Ariadne | to me LF seems like a black box | Mar 16 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | submitted end of 2020 | Mar 16 01:47 |
| matey | my problem with codes of conduct isnt what they try to achieve, only the application of zero tolerance policies in practice | Mar 16 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | 15 months ago | Mar 16 01:47 |
| matey | they had things before codes of conduct that were "similar" that i rarely complained about | Mar 16 01:48 |
| matey | it isnt the words "code of conduct" that bother me. | Mar 16 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | josh aas is there | Mar 16 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | also in LF | Mar 16 01:48 |
| Ariadne | they pay FOSS developers to do things their corporate donors want, but the whole money trail is very βdeal-orientedβ | Mar 16 01:48 |
| matey | its the zero tolerance policies (even when couched in mitigating langauge that seems to have no application in practice) | Mar 16 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | did lisbeth leave? | Mar 16 01:48 |
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| Ariadne | thatβs just bad community management | Mar 16 01:49 |
| matey | And then when people ask Roy about it he changes topic <- moving on... | Mar 16 01:49 |
| matey | im of mixed feelings about this of course | Mar 16 01:49 |
| matey | on the one hand, if i were in roys shoes and you asked me something i would probably be just as evasive | Mar 16 01:50 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway, it's unsurprising that multiple non-profits would use the same accountant | Mar 16 01:50 |
| matey | but the real question is, does anyone else get a better or clearer answer? thats where we differ | Mar 16 01:50 |
| Ariadne | the LF funding Alpineβs security team was a good thing imo | Mar 16 01:50 |
| mjg59_ | Or have overlap in people filling a specific role | Mar 16 01:50 |
| matey | but they no longer fund alpine? | Mar 16 01:50 |
| Ariadne | it was a one year grant to bootstrap the security team | Mar 16 01:51 |
| schestowitz | https://linuxfoundation.org/people/ | Mar 16 01:51 |
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| schestowitz | Wigle | Mar 16 01:51 |
| matey | thats that then | Mar 16 01:51 |
| Ariadne | Stephanie is alright | Mar 16 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they changed the CFO around that trime | Mar 16 01:51 |
| schestowitz | will compare some achives pages | Mar 16 01:51 |
| schestowitz | that might help explain the IRS status | Mar 16 01:51 |
| MinceR | mjg59_ can't afford to host his own blog? | Mar 16 01:51 |
| matey | im sure thats not the point | Mar 16 01:52 |
| MinceR | then what is the point? | Mar 16 01:52 |
| schestowitz | https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS | Mar 16 01:52 |
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| mjg59_ | MinceR: Can afford to, don't want to | Mar 16 01:52 |
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| mjg59_ | Running my own mail is bad enough | Mar 16 01:53 |
| MinceR | i'm sure there still are sites that will host a blog, gratis | Mar 16 01:53 |
| matey | i dont think thats the real point either-- his i mean | Mar 16 01:53 |
| matey | this is about access to an audience, just like its beside the point if roy can host his own microblog when twitter censors | Mar 16 01:53 |
| Ariadne | because pocock uses the right keywords he was able to convince roy to give him a platform on techrights to harass FOSS contributors | Mar 16 01:53 |
| matey | and its not even about guaranteed access | Mar 16 01:53 |
| Ariadne | that i believe is the point :) | Mar 16 01:54 |
| matey | that may be the point, even though im not sure what it has to do with mjg59_s question | Mar 16 01:54 |
| MinceR | does Roy have an obligation to host anyone's blog posts if they ask for it? | Mar 16 01:54 |
| mjg59_ | No | Mar 16 01:54 |
| matey | definitely not | Mar 16 01:55 |
| matey | but thats not what anyone was asking | Mar 16 01:55 |
| mjg59_ | Does Twitter have an obligation to host anyone's tweets if they ask for it? | Mar 16 01:55 |
| MinceR | then i still don't get the point | Mar 16 01:55 |
| MinceR | no, they don't | Mar 16 01:55 |
| MinceR | and they won't | Mar 16 01:55 |
| schestowitz | maybe liesbeth retired | Mar 16 01:55 |
| matey | the goal here is to understand his policy | Mar 16 01:55 |
| schestowitz | she was not young | Mar 16 01:55 |
| MinceR | and nobody should rely on twitter anyway | Mar 16 01:55 |
| schestowitz | looking at older forms | Mar 16 01:55 |
| matey | for me its academic and out of curiosity | Mar 16 01:55 |
| matey | i imagine it is for mjg59_ as well | Mar 16 01:55 |
| mjg59_ | So the question is why does Roy think Twitter is bad when they make editorial decisions, but it's fine for him to? | Mar 16 01:55 |
| schestowitz | lisbeth mcnabb | Mar 16 01:56 |
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| schestowitz | in 2018 forms | Mar 16 01:56 |
| schestowitz | then stephanie replaced her | Mar 16 01:56 |
| matey | /me personally would have settled for understanding what the local policy is really | Mar 16 01:56 |
| schestowitz | and afaik no irs filing available since | Mar 16 01:56 |
| matey | even if its not a written one | Mar 16 01:56 |
| kingoffrance | https://onthinktanks.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Twitter-Manual-for-Governments.pdf its just another PPP | Mar 16 01:57 |
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| matey | even the written ones are subject to change without notice, so... | Mar 16 01:57 |
| MinceR | are they the same editorial decisions? | Mar 16 01:57 |
| kingoffrance | where does twitter end and the "gov" begin? they are in bed | Mar 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | she took home about 400,000 dollars in salary each year | Mar 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | ~5 years ago | Mar 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | no tax | Mar 16 01:57 |
| matey | theyre not "written" in the sense of the constitution of the united states, or even a contract with nokia | Mar 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | in US you have millions of millionaires | Mar 16 01:57 |
| matey | which is a deliberately and amusingly bad example | Mar 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | and tens of millions on FOOD STAMPA | Mar 16 01:57 |
| MinceR | are both sites marketed as a place where anyone can post? | Mar 16 01:57 |
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| schestowitz | some "success story" | Mar 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | "what do you do?" | Mar 16 01:57 |
| matey | thats the same question you asked before | Mar 16 01:58 |
| schestowitz | "I fill up some IRS forms for a company that pretends to be about Linux' | Mar 16 01:58 |
| kingoffrance | its ppptown Evelyn Mulwray: She's my daughter. [Gittes slaps Evelyn] Jake Gittes: I said I want the truth! Evelyn Mulwray: She's my sister... [slap] Evelyn Mulwray: She's my daughter... [slap] Evelyn Mulwray: My sister, my daughter. [More slaps] Jake Gittes: I said I want the truth! Evelyn Mulwray: She's my sister AND my daughter! </bill maher> | Mar 16 01:58 |
| schestowitz | (on Vista 7) | Mar 16 01:58 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Roy justified publishing Pocock on the basis that he was writing about free software, which at the time suggested that the policy was that anyone could publish if they wrote about free software | Mar 16 01:58 |
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| MinceR | was the policy really that? | Mar 16 01:58 |
| matey | obviously not | Mar 16 01:58 |
| MinceR | implied suggestions aren't much to go on | Mar 16 01:58 |
| mjg59_ | No, since Roy then refused to let me publish something | Mar 16 01:58 |
| schestowitz | OK, did not find smoking gun. Fact #1: LE has more recent IRS filing than LF | Mar 16 01:59 |
| matey | /me has a morbid curiosity what mjg wanted to publish of course | Mar 16 01:59 |
| matey | my curiosity isnt limited to one side of this | Mar 16 01:59 |
| schestowitz | The CFO has changed around the same time | Mar 16 01:59 |
| schestowitz | any lurker or people reading the log, ask https://linuxfoundation.org/about/contact/ why https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS is stale since 2018/19 | Mar 16 02:00 |
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| matey | i think i know why | Mar 16 02:00 |
| matey | its 3 years, not 2 years | Mar 16 02:00 |
| matey | is the period you have to wait for updates | Mar 16 02:00 |
| schestowitz | look atr eff | Mar 16 02:00 |
| matey | but i could be wrong | Mar 16 02:00 |
| schestowitz | mozilla | Mar 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | fsf | Mar 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | they have more recent years | Mar 16 02:01 |
| matey | but how often? | Mar 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | only LF is years behind like that | Mar 16 02:01 |
| matey | every 2? | Mar 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | no, every year | Mar 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | but there is a time delay | Mar 16 02:01 |
| matey | hmm | Mar 16 02:01 |
| matey | i wonder how the delay works | Mar 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/linux-foundation-irs-filings/ | Mar 16 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Itβs Almost Spring 2022 and Linux Foundationβs Latest Available IRS Filing is From 2018, Over 90% of the Budget Goes to US | Techrights | Mar 16 02:01 | |
| schestowitz | They're not about Linux | Mar 16 02:01 |
| matey | maybe its like windows (android) updates where you can put them off, just not for good | Mar 16 02:01 |
| mjg59_ | FSF only has one more recent year than the LF | Mar 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | on Tuesday they paaid for press release pushing their diploma mill | Mar 16 02:02 |
| schestowitz | they lost a lot of income on "LF Events" | Mar 16 02:02 |
| schestowitz | due to COVID | Mar 16 02:02 |
| schestowitz | they almost monopolised the events | Mar 16 02:02 |
| schestowitz | and managed to shut down the competition in that space | Mar 16 02:02 |
| schestowitz | so that all the major events are controlled by malicious corporationa | Mar 16 02:02 |
| matey | fosdem isnt competition? or fosdem is lf? | Mar 16 02:02 |
| schestowitz | which cannot be criticised | Mar 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | matey: fosdem survived | Mar 16 02:03 |
| matey | okay | Mar 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | maybe LF has plans for Brussels branch, too? | Mar 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | linuxtag you don't hear much about anymore | Mar 16 02:03 |
| matey | is that related to lf? | Mar 16 02:03 |
| matey | maybe they just failed to have a compelling event | Mar 16 02:04 |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation stopped having its IRS filings published by the IRS around the same time a long-serving CFO left. Meanwhile, other offshoots did release IRS papers. Not sure what's going on, but it merits a polite inquiry. http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/linux-foundation-irs-filings/ | Mar 16 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | linustag took microsoft money | Mar 16 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the story about some events in the US is, | Mar 16 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF offered to take over | Mar 16 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and shut down the originals | Mar 16 02:06 |
| matey | they must not have taken enough, lf takes m$ money too | Mar 16 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | very few were left other than scale and a few locos | Mar 16 02:06 |
| matey | both take m$ money and one survives | Mar 16 02:06 |
| mjg59_ | LPC was launched because OLS was incompetently run | Mar 16 02:07 |
| techrights-news | One of the few Red Hat managers who stayed at ICBM https://www.eweek.com/cloud/red-hat-ceo-paul-cormier-open-source-drives-the-cloud/ | Mar 16 02:08 |
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| mjg59_ | LF assist with LPC logistics, but don't run it | Mar 16 02:08 |
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| mjg59_ | OLS is the only major american event I can think of that vanished (and it was Canadian) | Mar 16 02:08 |
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| matey | from the allknowing wikioracle: "LinuxTag was launched in 1996 by a handful of active members of the Unix Working Group (Unix-AG) at the University of Kaiserslautern.[2] They wanted to inform the public about the young technology of Linux and Open Source software. " | Mar 16 02:10 |
| matey | which incredibly was a term not coined until 2 years later. | Mar 16 02:10 |
| mjg59_ | Oh, I guess OSCon is gone, but that wasn't really a Linux event | Mar 16 02:10 |
| mjg59_ | And, frankly, no great loss | Mar 16 02:11 |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162600 | Mar 16 02:11 |
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| matey | i miss the name | Mar 16 02:11 |
| matey | it baffles me when organisers abbreviate it "con" instead of "conf" | Mar 16 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | sfc says conf | Mar 16 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | cat .conf | Mar 16 02:12 |
| matey | they should definitely say con | Mar 16 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | sponsor: Microsoft | Mar 16 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | sponsor: Gulag | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | sponsor: Salesforce | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: it's a COIN | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | CON | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | we made this joke before | Mar 16 02:13 |
| matey | its right in the name | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | GPL keynotes from anti-GPL companie | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | GPL keynotes from anti-GPL companie | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | turns out this is profitable | Mar 16 02:13 |
| matey | if sfc anti-gpl? | Mar 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | Deb N raised the money | Mar 16 02:14 |
| mjg59_ | No | Mar 16 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and got a short stint at OSI after that | Mar 16 02:14 |
| mjg59_ | SFC is the only organisation making meaningful attempts to enforce the GPL | Mar 16 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | using the OSI's name to attack the Free software community | Mar 16 02:14 |
| matey | so i watched the talk kuhn gave that rms interrupted | Mar 16 02:14 |
| matey | and while i can appreciate the likelihood that the CONTEXT of it is was anti-gpl | Mar 16 02:14 |
| matey | the talk itself REALLY did not seem to be. | Mar 16 02:14 |
| matey | if rms was upset by something that was actually being said, it was on a level that the audience was far from privy to | Mar 16 02:15 |
| mjg59_ | Like, SFC is right now engaging in a new strategy that, if successful, would allow anyone in California to enforce the GPL even if they're not an author | Mar 16 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is not anti-GPL | Mar 16 02:15 |
| mjg59_ | This is not the behaviour of an organisation that is attempting to undermine the GPL | Mar 16 02:15 |
| matey | Like, SFC is right now engaging in a new strategy that, if successful, would allow anyone in California to enforce the GPL even if they're not an author <- this seems like a double edged sword | Mar 16 02:15 |
| matey | on the one hand, it means an end to cla, which is awesome | Mar 16 02:16 |
| matey | and on the cost side, it could mean something even worse | Mar 16 02:16 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Really? The problem we have at the moment is that a lot of major contributors to GPLed projects are against enforcement because it's not good for their employer | Mar 16 02:16 |
| mjg59_ | So it's hard to take any meaningful action | Mar 16 02:16 |
| matey | i think we agree on the problem | Mar 16 02:16 |
| matey | on the other side is misgivings (perhaps unrealistic ones) about the solution | Mar 16 02:17 |
| mjg59_ | In an ideal world the corporations would be in favour of enforcement, but that's clearly not going to happen | Mar 16 02:17 |
| matey | right, im not a utopian | Mar 16 02:17 |
| matey | so waiting for corporations to do the right thing isnt in my playbook | Mar 16 02:17 |
| mjg59_ | The only practical way to skew the balance is to give more power to the users | Mar 16 02:17 |
| matey | but at a price? | Mar 16 02:17 |
| mjg59_ | Rather than granting enforcement rights purely to the copyright holders | Mar 16 02:18 |
| matey | right now the problem is, unless youre a large copyright holder (ibm, canonical, the fsf) | Mar 16 02:18 |
| mjg59_ | The GPL is pretty worthless unless it's enforced | Mar 16 02:18 |
| matey | you cant defend the gpl | Mar 16 02:18 |
| matey | eright | Mar 16 02:18 |
| matey | we are on the same page regarding the problem | Mar 16 02:18 |
| matey | suppose it gets fixed | Mar 16 02:18 |
| matey | now, instead of not being able to defend your work against gpl violations | Mar 16 02:18 |
| mjg59_ | If a consequence of this change was that companies stopped contributing to GPLed projects, then that's effectively just the status quo | Mar 16 02:19 |
| matey | maybe now only large companies can defend their USE of gpl against alleged violations | Mar 16 02:19 |
| matey | in other words, youre a first time small time dev | Mar 16 02:19 |
| Ariadne | in other news shitter has added reply downvote βfeatureβ | Mar 16 02:19 |
| matey | you go up against the new beefed up gpl legal regime | Mar 16 02:19 |
| matey | you get blown out of the sky, so to speak | Mar 16 02:19 |
| matey | if this is an unrealistic concern, great | Mar 16 02:20 |
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| matey | in the past, it wasnt a concern at all, because the only people interested in enforcing gpl were on the side of only enforcing if they HAD to | Mar 16 02:20 |
| matey | if sfc wins that goes out the window (For better or worse, but why just assume better) | Mar 16 02:20 |
| mjg59_ | matey: I'd be worried about it if corporations started doing it to squash competition, but they'd end up in the same boat - even Google, who have a whole team of people to do GPL compliance, repeatedly fuck up meeting the letter of it | Mar 16 02:20 |
| matey | id like to avoid a future where the next apple vs samsung is over the gpl. | Mar 16 02:21 |
| mjg59_ | The approach the SFC is taking wouldn't establish that customers are entitled to damages | Mar 16 02:21 |
| Ariadne | itβs ok apple and samsung have largely banned GPL inside their orgs | Mar 16 02:21 |
| mjg59_ | The only thing that could come out of a case is a requirement to come into compliance | Mar 16 02:21 |
| matey | they might pick it back up if they could weaponise it, everybody wins | Mar 16 02:21 |
| matey | its possible im being cynical. i think even that is better than being too optimistic. | Mar 16 02:22 |
| mjg59_ | So someone tries this suit on you, you come into compliance, it goes away | Mar 16 02:22 |
| matey | im happy for things to actually get better, i wont complain if they do. | Mar 16 02:22 |
| matey | So someone tries this suit on you, you come into compliance, it goes away <- that exactly what SHOULD happen | Mar 16 02:22 |
| matey | so what is this doing in california? | Mar 16 02:22 |
| mjg59_ | Courts tend not to favour people who jump straight to suits without trying to solve the problem otherwise | Mar 16 02:22 |
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| Ariadne | i think itβs better from a business perspective to just release patches to the community in good faith | Mar 16 02:22 |
| matey | Courts tend not to favour people who jump straight to suits without trying to solve the problem otherwise <- lawyers do | Mar 16 02:22 |
| Ariadne | and thatβs how my businesses have historically operated | Mar 16 02:23 |
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| Ariadne | turns out if you do the right thing indiscriminately then nobody has anything to complain about | Mar 16 02:23 |
| matey | im not convinced the gpl is better in practice. im sure its better in theory, and it might be better in practice. | Mar 16 02:23 |
| Ariadne | itβs a complicated topic | Mar 16 02:23 |
| matey | it absolutely is | Mar 16 02:23 |
| Ariadne | gplv3 authors had lofty and worthwhile ambitions | Mar 16 02:23 |
| matey | agpl3 too | Mar 16 02:24 |
| matey | but google didnt like | Mar 16 02:24 |
| Ariadne | yes | Mar 16 02:24 |
| mjg59_ | matey: https://sfconservancy.org/press/qanda.html covers it | Mar 16 02:24 |
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| matey | :/ | Mar 16 02:24 |
| matey | noted | Mar 16 02:24 |
| Ariadne | but in practice, gplv3 failed to capture key ecosystem participants | Mar 16 02:24 |
| matey | linus at the very least | Mar 16 02:25 |
| matey | in before roy: due to lobbying | Mar 16 02:25 |
| Ariadne | so, due to that, itβs a mess and apache wound up taking over | Mar 16 02:25 |
| Ariadne | linus and fsf have different philosophies on copyleft | Mar 16 02:25 |
| matey | how did apache take over? | Mar 16 02:25 |
| matey | yeah linus found something he liked and used it (i mean the license) | Mar 16 02:25 |
| Ariadne | apache 2 is a good license and more palatable to corporate interests | Mar 16 02:25 |
| matey | and the fsf uses it for what they created it for | Mar 16 02:25 |
| matey | if i thought i could repel corporate interests just by slapping gpl on there, i would consider it a plus | Mar 16 02:26 |
| Ariadne | agpl is a problem because of monorepos | Mar 16 02:26 |
| matey | monorepos? | Mar 16 02:27 |
| Ariadne | google hates it because they have a giant monorepo with all of their stuff in it | Mar 16 02:27 |
| matey | oh yeah | Mar 16 02:27 |
| matey | and agpl doesnt work well with that | Mar 16 02:27 |
| Ariadne | and they think introducing agpl to the monorepo opens a pandoraβs box | Mar 16 02:27 |
| matey | which it probably doesnt, but one cant be too careful | Mar 16 02:27 |
| MinceR | one could organize their code the way a sane person would | Mar 16 02:27 |
| matey | "dont be insane" | Mar 16 02:28 |
| MinceR | but that's probably too much to ask of megacorporations | Mar 16 02:28 |
| Ariadne | well thereβs advantages to having a monorepo | Mar 16 02:28 |
| matey | especially non-evil ones | Mar 16 02:28 |
| Ariadne | mostly automated QA | Mar 16 02:28 |
| Ariadne | with a monorepo there is one QA pipeline to maintain verses one per repo | Mar 16 02:28 |
| matey | i would think google was more than capable of transcending the file system (and with it, the repo) in any way they pleased | Mar 16 02:29 |
| matey | after connecting all their servers together i would expect them to take one look at git and say "hmm, quaint" | Mar 16 02:29 |
| Ariadne | lawyers have a different worldview | Mar 16 02:29 |
| matey | dont they always | Mar 16 02:29 |
| matey | we should have never invented them | Mar 16 02:30 |
| Ariadne | even at $dayjob we have a monorepo for internal services | Mar 16 02:30 |
| MinceR | we should have never allowed sociopaths to get away from being confined and treated, to isntead rule us all | Mar 16 02:30 |
| MinceR | s/isn/ins/ | Mar 16 02:30 |
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| Ariadne | though we use separate repos for actual public facing projects | Mar 16 02:31 |
| matey | unfortunately sociopaths can be quite wily, even captive ones | Mar 16 02:32 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 16 02:32 |
| matey | the public is insufficiently equipped to deal with them, so it falls (of course) to other bodies that are themselves run (oops) by sociopaths | Mar 16 02:33 |
| matey | we should have equipped the public maybe. i can think of few instances where "its for their own good" applies more strongly | Mar 16 02:34 |
| kingoffrance | need x to overcome x ...we are back to alchemy/isis again :D | Mar 16 02:35 |
| matey | hey i was not saying we need sociopaths to overcome sociopaths | Mar 16 02:35 |
| kingoffrance | i know :D | Mar 16 02:35 |
| matey | okay good | Mar 16 02:35 |
| kingoffrance | but thats the cliche | Mar 16 02:35 |
| matey | who will bastard the bastards? | Mar 16 02:36 |
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| matey | /me is still getting over the misty first cow / salt lick / milk creation myth | Mar 16 02:39 |
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| matey | "we need a creation story" "lets pick a mammal" "why not, it worked in genesis" | Mar 16 02:40 |
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| matey | darwin: "i cant even" | Mar 16 02:40 |
| MinceR | "send a lunatic to catch a lunatic" | Mar 16 02:41 |
| matey | actually darwin was sold on it initially | Mar 16 02:41 |
| matey | but he was highly sceptical | Mar 16 02:41 |
| matey | "ok when i said that was divine, this is just really fucked" | Mar 16 02:41 |
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| AdmFubar | https://arstechnica.com/?p=1841295 | Mar 16 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Researcher uses Dirty Pipe exploit to fully root a Pixel 6 Pro and Samsung S22 | Ars Technica | Mar 16 02:46 | |
| AdmFubar | NBC's new show... To Catch a Lunatic | Mar 16 02:46 |
| MinceR | oh, i misquoted | Mar 16 02:47 |
| MinceR | it's "send a maniac to catch a maniac" | Mar 16 02:47 |
| matey | yours is better | Mar 16 02:47 |
| matey | Researcher uses Dirty Pipe exploit <- the real reason codes of conduct were invented (theyre pretty secret about it) is to prevent exploit names from getting MUCH worse | Mar 16 02:48 |
| matey | they knew we were on the edge of the abyss and they stepped in just in time | Mar 16 02:48 |
| matey | thankfully we will never have a printer subsystem exploit called "2 girls, 1 cups" | Mar 16 02:49 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2RYz5EG8ss | Mar 16 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_2RYz5EG8ss | Mar 16 02:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Demolition Man - Send a maniac to catch a maniac - Invidious | Mar 16 02:49 | |
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| reptoidz | rrrrrrrrrreptoidz | Mar 16 02:50 |
| MinceR | pikachu! | Mar 16 02:51 |
| reptoidz | hey how is everyone? | Mar 16 02:51 |
| MinceR | used to be better | Mar 16 02:51 |
| reptoidz | fair enough | Mar 16 02:52 |
| kingoffrance | 280 days matey, always look at gestation periods for animals :D | Mar 16 02:52 |
| kingoffrance | same as human | Mar 16 02:52 |
| matey | thats just creepy | Mar 16 02:52 |
| kingoffrance | yeah :D when you dont have modern science, im sure it made sense | Mar 16 02:53 |
| kingoffrance | they saw some kind of connection whatever it was | Mar 16 02:53 |
| matey | "mama had a chicken, mama had a cow, dad was proud, he didnt care how" | Mar 16 02:53 |
| matey | kingoffrance: you had to be there | Mar 16 02:53 |
| reptoidz | ewww | Mar 16 02:53 |
| matey | its from a cartoon, its an actual theme song | Mar 16 02:53 |
| reptoidz | dad was cuckolded | Mar 16 02:54 |
| reptoidz | by a chicken and cow | Mar 16 02:54 |
| matey | could be a shapeshifter | Mar 16 02:54 |
| MinceR | cow and chicken | Mar 16 02:54 |
| reptoidz | hmmm | Mar 16 02:54 |
| *reptoidz is a shapeshifter | Mar 16 02:54 | |
| reptoidz | i must have had a lot of alcohol | Mar 16 02:54 |
| matey | cow and reptoidz | Mar 16 02:55 |
| reptoidz | gotta stay out of THAT bar | Mar 16 02:55 |
| matey | dirty cow and chicken (getting back to exploit names) | Mar 16 02:55 |
| reptoidz | weird too, im a chick | Mar 16 02:55 |
| *reptoidz can hear her keyboard 1KM away | Mar 16 02:56 | |
| matey | mechanical? | Mar 16 02:56 |
| reptoidz | yes... blue switches too | Mar 16 02:56 |
| matey | i want replacement domes for my piece of shit keyboard | Mar 16 02:57 |
| matey | its not that old, but they dont stay optimal | Mar 16 02:57 |
| reptoidz | my kb is reddragon | Mar 16 02:57 |
| matey | nice | Mar 16 02:57 |
| reptoidz | twas cheap and mechanical | Mar 16 02:57 |
| matey | fits with the whole reptilian theme | Mar 16 02:57 |
| reptoidz | lol | Mar 16 02:58 |
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| matey | also the top choice of keyboard among cannibals, presumably | Mar 16 02:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 16 02:59 |
| matey | fine young keyboardists | Mar 16 02:59 |
| reptoidz | i can do 70 WPM without effort | Mar 16 03:00 |
| reptoidz | prolly cuz im on my puter 24/7 | Mar 16 03:00 |
| matey | so i can i, the keys make it a bit wonky though | Mar 16 03:00 |
| matey | and my fingers are a bit dyslexic. dystypographic. dystypian. | Mar 16 03:00 |
| reptoidz | if it was a lame membrane kb, i'd probably do 50-60 wpm | Mar 16 03:00 |
| matey | send a typist to catch a typist | Mar 16 03:01 |
| *reptoidz loves demolition man | Mar 16 03:02 | |
| matey | why? | Mar 16 03:02 |
| reptoidz | its such a great movie | Mar 16 03:02 |
| reptoidz | send a maniac to catch a maniac | Mar 16 03:02 |
| matey | they usually do | Mar 16 03:03 |
| matey | in movies they use more effects of course | Mar 16 03:03 |
| reptoidz | demolition man has a lot of great one-liners | Mar 16 03:03 |
| matey | /me is more of a bruce willis fan | Mar 16 03:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 16 03:04 |
| matey | but stallone is ok | Mar 16 03:04 |
| reptoidz | bruce willis is cool but sylvester stalone is HOT | Mar 16 03:04 |
| matey | sorry bruce | Mar 16 03:04 |
| reptoidz | i'd totally shapeshift into anything stalone wanted | Mar 16 03:05 |
| matey | this is unusual, even for #techrights | Mar 16 03:05 |
| reptoidz | im probably the first girl here | Mar 16 03:05 |
| matey | definitely not | Mar 16 03:05 |
| reptoidz | ok fair enough | Mar 16 03:06 |
| reptoidz | im probably the hot first girl here | Mar 16 03:06 |
| reptoidz | im probably the first hot girl here | Mar 16 03:06 |
| matey | this chats been around since 2008 | Mar 16 03:07 |
| reptoidz | matey: you haven't | Mar 16 03:07 |
| matey | oh ive been around since 2008 | Mar 16 03:07 |
| matey | not here | Mar 16 03:07 |
| reptoidz | i was gonna say i dont remember you | Mar 16 03:08 |
| matey | you remember [h]omer? | Mar 16 03:08 |
| reptoidz | vaguely | Mar 16 03:09 |
| matey | okay | Mar 16 03:09 |
| reptoidz | that was you? | Mar 16 03:09 |
| matey | no | Mar 16 03:09 |
| reptoidz | lol then why even ask | Mar 16 03:11 |
| matey | i was curious how far back you go | Mar 16 03:11 |
| reptoidz | i was around in 2010-2011 | Mar 16 03:11 |
| matey | cool | Mar 16 03:11 |
| matey | what brings you back | Mar 16 03:12 |
| reptoidz | prurigro told me freenode was taken over | Mar 16 03:12 |
| matey | its definitely not the same now | Mar 16 03:12 |
| reptoidz | i wanted to chat with linux people | Mar 16 03:13 |
| reptoidz | ive been bored a lot | Mar 16 03:13 |
| *reptoidz runs fedora and gnome on 4th gen intel laptop | Mar 16 03:13 | |
| matey | its easier than ever to start a website about fedora | Mar 16 03:15 |
| reptoidz | touche | Mar 16 03:15 |
| reptoidz | you can even do so anonymously | Mar 16 03:16 |
| matey | oh yeah | Mar 16 03:16 |
| reptoidz | just sign up for protonmail or tutanota over tor | Mar 16 03:16 |
| matey | thats not so easy | Mar 16 03:16 |
| reptoidz | yeah it is | Mar 16 03:16 |
| matey | i tried that with tutanota specifically | Mar 16 03:16 |
| matey | if its easy, i didnt notice | Mar 16 03:17 |
| reptoidz | oh they probably noticed tor | Mar 16 03:17 |
| reptoidz | hack your neighbor and use their wifi to sign up | Mar 16 03:17 |
| matey | you might be able to check tutanota with tor, good luck signing up | Mar 16 03:17 |
| matey | hack your neighbor and use their wifi to sign up <- i mean, im sure theres a library that works | Mar 16 03:18 |
| reptoidz | Bell Canada uses an 8 character hex password as default for wifi, easy to hack | Mar 16 03:18 |
| reptoidz | my gpu can do that in a day | Mar 16 03:18 |
| reptoidz | the library works but my library requires a login using your library card number and password | Mar 16 03:19 |
| matey | they should just go all out and make the default 12345 | Mar 16 03:19 |
| reptoidz | easy enough to figure out who did it | Mar 16 03:19 |
| matey | people will learn | Mar 16 03:19 |
| matey | some people | Mar 16 03:19 |
| reptoidz | i use a vps i bought with bitcoin | Mar 16 03:20 |
| matey | any good? | Mar 16 03:20 |
| reptoidz | yeah its a bit laggy cuz its germany but w/e | Mar 16 03:20 |
| matey | the bits in germany are always on time | Mar 16 03:21 |
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| reptoidz | well im in Canada, so germany is a little laggy | Mar 16 03:33 |
| matey | makes sense | Mar 16 03:34 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-cloud-layoffs-protest | Mar 16 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Cloud workers found out about layoffs from media - Protocol | Mar 16 03:35 | |
| matey | i thought having your job in the cloud meant you couldnt get laid off | Mar 16 03:35 |
| *reptoidz hears capitalism laugh | Mar 16 03:37 | |
| AdmFubar | 'cept they have their heads in the cloud | Mar 16 03:40 |
| AdmFubar | or elswhere... ;) | Mar 16 03:40 |
| matey | multicloud is next | Mar 16 03:41 |
| matey | thats the cloud in the multiverse | Mar 16 03:41 |
| AdmFubar | sounds patchy to me | Mar 16 03:41 |
| matey | or the cloudverse | Mar 16 03:41 |
| kingoffrance | that ...sounds totally like that will happen | Mar 16 03:41 |
| matey | its VPPP | Mar 16 03:42 |
| AdmFubar | those multiverse clouds will probably contain NFT's | Mar 16 03:43 |
| kingoffrance | whatever sarcastic merger you can think of..........someone's probably working on it | Mar 16 03:43 |
| matey | you should check your nft with md5sum to make sure you downloaded it correctly | Mar 16 03:43 |
| reptoidz | if its the multiverse, that'll require a lot of compute units | Mar 16 03:43 |
| matey | whatever sarcastic merger you can think of..........someone's probably working on it Rule of Aquisition #34 | Mar 16 03:43 |
| matey | kingoffrance: i have an nft-related idea thats going to help me take over they entire tech industry | Mar 16 03:45 |
| matey | but since this is irc i think i can tell you | Mar 16 03:45 |
| matey | so the idea is just like nfts right? | Mar 16 03:45 |
| *reptoidz is on the edge of her seat | Mar 16 03:45 | |
| matey | but nfts are so limited | Mar 16 03:45 |
| matey | i mean theyre tied to (usually small) digital assets | Mar 16 03:46 |
| matey | what i want to do is combine something like dns, tradmark and nft together | Mar 16 03:46 |
| matey | so that entire companies have an nft | Mar 16 03:46 |
| matey | like why have an nft for some emoji or game asset | Mar 16 03:46 |
| matey | when you can have an nft for oracle or virgin entertainment? | Mar 16 03:47 |
| matey | or amazon! | Mar 16 03:47 |
| matey | im going to call them "business identity tokens" or "BITs" | Mar 16 03:48 |
| matey | and of course the first thing im going to acquire with them is bitcoin, so they will go together perfectly | Mar 16 03:48 |
| matey | originally i was going to call them "bridge identity tokens" because they "bridge" the financial world with the blockchain (obviously) | Mar 16 03:50 |
| matey | but then some people i work with said "you might not want to say 'i have a bridge to sell you'" | Mar 16 03:51 |
| AdmFubar | BIT' they're the SHITs! | Mar 16 03:51 |
| matey | theyre the experts | Mar 16 03:51 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.rawstory.com/freedom-convoy-2656961286/ | Mar 16 03:52 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: rawstory.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rawstory.com/freedom-convoy-2656961286/ | Mar 16 03:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | 'Freedom Convoy' truckers thought Bitcoin was safe β but their funds have been frozen anyway - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism | Mar 16 03:52 | |
| reptoidz | lol freedumb convoy | Mar 16 03:52 |
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| MinceR | 16 044114 < matey> thats the cloud in the multiverse | Mar 16 03:55 |
| MinceR | that's great | Mar 16 03:55 |
| MinceR | we could have a multiverse in that! | Mar 16 03:55 |
| matey | inceptiverse! | Mar 16 03:55 |
| matey | /me is going to own half of the oracle in the inceptiverse | Mar 16 03:56 |
| matey | and 1/3 of apple | Mar 16 03:56 |
| reptoidz | lol | Mar 16 03:56 |
| matey | that way whenever someone buys EITHER an iphone OR an nft of an iphone, my nfti rating goes up | Mar 16 03:57 |
| matey | thats the nft index, its sort of like the stock market but for nfts | Mar 16 03:57 |
| matey | in the multicloud | Mar 16 03:57 |
| MinceR | we could sell NFTs of NFTs | Mar 16 03:57 |
| kingoffrance | https://www.wired.com/story/tech-companies-banks/ | Mar 16 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Every Tech Company Wants to Be a BankβSomeday, At Least | WIRED | Mar 16 03:58 | |
| matey | why not? they do that with shares all the time | Mar 16 03:58 |
| reptoidz | what about NFTs about NFTs of NFTs | Mar 16 03:58 |
| MinceR | those too | Mar 16 03:58 |
| matey | nfts are really just like shares, except digital | Mar 16 03:58 |
| MinceR | and so on | Mar 16 03:58 |
| matey | and cryptographic | Mar 16 03:58 |
| matey | and very cool sounding | Mar 16 03:58 |
| matey | i got the idea while i was selling qr codes | Mar 16 03:59 |
| matey | but those are so 2005 | Mar 16 03:59 |
| *kingoffrance .oO( watches matey's sarcasm get repelled by magic MBA armour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5KrJ9uIJFQ that's probably what they want to do ) | Mar 16 03:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x5KrJ9uIJFQ | Mar 16 03:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Final Fantasy VI Advance - The invincible Guardian - Invidious | Mar 16 03:59 | |
| reptoidz | my vaccine passport has a QR code, not so 2005 | Mar 16 03:59 |
| matey | eh, they rebadged it | Mar 16 04:00 |
| matey | kingoffrance: im actually trying to find the mba "brown note" | Mar 16 04:00 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Mar 16 04:00 |
| matey | its like the original brown note but only works in the business sector | Mar 16 04:00 |
| reptoidz | you know, im the Queen of France... | Mar 16 04:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 16 04:01 |
| MinceR | for a republic, france has an awful lot of monarchs | Mar 16 04:01 |
| reptoidz | I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE | Mar 16 04:01 |
| *reptoidz 's limbs start flailing around | Mar 16 04:01 | |
| matey | the brown note is a fourier transfer derived from high-frequency trading, and if you used it at the nyse you could paralyse the economy for at least a day or two | Mar 16 04:02 |
| matey | /me goes to talk to the nice men in sunglasses at the door | Mar 16 04:02 |
| matey | brb | Mar 16 04:02 |
| reptoidz | https://youtu.be/W7JyjZI3LUM | Mar 16 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=W7JyjZI3LUM | Mar 16 04:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | REJECTED by DON HERTZFELDT (Blu-ray restoration) - Invidious | Mar 16 04:02 | |
| matey | i though you were the lizard queen | Mar 16 04:03 |
| MinceR | also, it would have been nice to know _how_ the authorities managed to seize/freeze those funds | Mar 16 04:03 |
| reptoidz | matey: didn't you know? | Mar 16 04:03 |
| MinceR | this is the most interesting part of the story and it's the one the article just skips | Mar 16 04:03 |
| reptoidz | matey: ALL leaders in the world are reptilian shapeshifters | Mar 16 04:03 |
| matey | oh yeah, i did read that once | Mar 16 04:04 |
| reptoidz | so im still the lizard queen | Mar 16 04:04 |
| reptoidz | of france | Mar 16 04:04 |
| matey | it explains why the mice problem i had in the old place went away | Mar 16 04:04 |
| matey | also, it would have been nice to know _how_ the authorities managed to seize/freeze those funds <- they always leave out the best part so you have to buy the book | Mar 16 04:05 |
| matey | scientology does it too | Mar 16 04:05 |
| MinceR | reminds me of Lizardking | Mar 16 04:05 |
| reptoidz | authorities simply have to infiltrate those groups, easy enough | Mar 16 04:05 |
| reptoidz | i was listening to the freedumb convoy's "Zello" chat | Mar 16 04:06 |
| reptoidz | it was amusing | Mar 16 04:06 |
| reptoidz | just when you thought conspiracy theoriests couldn't be dumber, just listen to their zello voice chat | Mar 16 04:07 |
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| reptoidz | twitch.tv/markeast had the zello chat and live video feeds of the protest | Mar 16 04:07 |
| matey | /me is investing big in punkchain too | Mar 16 04:09 |
| matey | punkchain is different because its not allowed to get "trendy" | Mar 16 04:10 |
| matey | basically as soon as it has a certain number of people adopt it, the whole thing crashes and breaks a bunch of your shit | Mar 16 04:10 |
| matey | but its totally cool, so there are a bunch of investors | Mar 16 04:10 |
| matey | and it just crashed, theyre all fucked now | Mar 16 04:11 |
| matey | but thats fucking cool | Mar 16 04:11 |
| kingoffrance | tomorrow you're homeless, tonight it's a blast! </dead kennedys> | Mar 16 04:12 |
| matey | that was the story of punkchain. it was pretty cool to be there | Mar 16 04:12 |
| matey | before it went all mainstream | Mar 16 04:13 |
| reptoidz | i got a chain that says gold digger | Mar 16 04:13 |
| matey | what really messed up punkchain at the end was a bunch of fake people who instead of getting the point and getting all their investments fucked by it, they were really just blowing money as a status symbol to say "look, i can blow all this money and still be solvent" | Mar 16 04:18 |
| matey | but that completely misses the point of it-- which is everyone is fucked sooner or later | Mar 16 04:18 |
| matey | fortunately it crashed like a week later | Mar 16 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://apnews.com/article/covid-business-health-ted-wheeler-poverty-edb884d8bf98e45b16372c1c8b7182e7 | Mar 16 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | Liberal US cities change course, now clearing homeless camps | AP News | Mar 16 04:20 | |
| DaemonFC | San Francisco Mayor London Breed declared a state of emergency in December in the crime-heavy Tenderloin neighborhood, which has been ground zero for drug dealing, overdose deaths and homelessness. She said itβs time to get aggressive and βless tolerant of all the bullβ- that has destroyed our city.β | Mar 16 04:20 |
| matey | what we really wanted to do was take all our savings and set them on fire. but we wanted to do it in a comment on modern society using cryptographic hash routines and the blockchain | Mar 16 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ likes it there. People "get it". | Mar 16 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | Bludgeoned over the head by police batons for rough sleeping. | Mar 16 04:20 |
| matey | rule #1, its never punk when the cops do it | Mar 16 04:22 |
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| matey | rule #2, there are no rules. cops still suck though | Mar 16 04:24 |
| reptoidz | ACAB | Mar 16 04:27 |
| matey | exactly | Mar 16 04:28 |
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| prurigro | schestowitz: hey! just wanted to let you know that I'm getting an SSL "potential security risk" error when I try to hit the https version of the site | Mar 16 04:48 |
| reptoidz | hey prurigro | Mar 16 04:49 |
| prurigro | ahoy | Mar 16 04:49 |
| *reptoidz is now known as chicksahoy | Mar 16 04:50 | |
| chicksahoy | w00000t | Mar 16 04:50 |
| chicksahoy | this was my name in world of warcraft | Mar 16 04:52 |
| MinceR | were you playing a cookie with chicks embedded in it? | Mar 16 04:52 |
| chicksahoy | it was a cookie based name | Mar 16 04:53 |
| MinceR | also, hi prurigro | Mar 16 04:54 |
| prurigro | hey! noticed the site was borked and finally got the motivation to register for the new server haha | Mar 16 04:55 |
| prurigro | how goes? | Mar 16 04:55 |
| MinceR | well, it has gone better before | Mar 16 04:55 |
| chicksahoy | i had a friend named oreomatic | Mar 16 04:56 |
| chicksahoy | so when he asked me to play wow with him, i made a death knight named chicksahoy | Mar 16 04:57 |
| MinceR | i see | Mar 16 05:01 |
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| chicksahoy | MinceR: exactly | Mar 16 05:10 |
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| mjg59_ | prurigro: That's expected, the certificate is self-signed | Mar 16 05:21 |
| prurigro | wait, really? the link from ddg is the https one-- I feel like that's going to drive a lot of people away from the site? | Mar 16 05:21 |
| prurigro | is there an issue using letsencrypt? | Mar 16 05:21 |
| mjg59_ | prurigro: The claim is roughly that the entire CA ecosystem is a corporate seizure of the commons, and LetsEncrypt is a Linux Foundation backed proxy to solidify this control | Mar 16 05:24 |
| prurigro | fair enough haha, though having gone with cacert and whatnot in the past, I don't feel like letsencrypt has solidified much aside from the fact that https is actually used these days. Why not just skip the https stuff aside from the wp admin console in the case? | Mar 16 05:25 |
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| kingoffrance | from the linked paper: Twitter is a good tool for detecting the state of public opinion in real time https://www.statista.com/statistics/699462/twitter-most-retweeted-posts-all-time/ well....maybe it worked for free chicken nuggets at wendy's, i guess that will work for putin too | Mar 16 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-β’ Most retweeted posts of all time 2020 | Statista | Mar 16 06:23 | |
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| matey | free chicken nuggets would have been a way better policy than invading ukraine. does putin have a twitter account? we could hashtag this. | Mar 16 06:52 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, March 15, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Mar 16 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Mar 16 07:39 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Mar 16 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Mar 16 07:39 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Azure layoffs. Gulag Clown: also layoffs. Clown computing is just a bubble, subsidised at losses. | Mar 16 07:41 |
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| techrights-news | No, no, no. Kids should NOT have these surveillance devices. Heck, even adults ought not have these. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-cell-phones-for-kids/ | Mar 16 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 6 Best Kids Cell Phone Options in 2022 - Make Tech Easier | Mar 16 07:51 | |
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| techrights-news | "I can't believe that in the Twenty First Goddamned Century, some lunatic Playstation hacker went and implemented an ftp server" https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/03/playing-old-ps3-games/ | Mar 16 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Playing old PS3 games | Mar 16 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | "All it takes is installing Kali Linux version 2022.1 or newer with btrfs as the file system and to enable snapshotting after installation and you will get: [...]" https://www.kali.org/blog/unkaputtbar/ | Mar 16 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kali.org | Kali Unkaputtbar | Kali Linux Blog | Mar 16 07:55 | |
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| techrights-news | "Following a request-for-testing thread on tech@, Stefan Sperling (stsp@) has committed some IEEE 802.11ac support to iwx(4): [...]" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220315070043 | Mar 16 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | iwx(4) gains 11ac 80MHz channel support | Mar 16 07:56 | |
| techrights-news | "Hereβs to another 22 years Emacs!" https://arjenwiersma.nl/writeups/emacs/22-years-of-emacs/ | Mar 16 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arjenwiersma.nl | 22 years of Emacs | Mar 16 07:57 | |
| techrights-news | "Mattβs point of view is that the world is better off when the web is open and fun, and Automattic builds and acquires products that help that goal along." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22977857/wordpress-tumblr-simplenote-internet-automattic-matt-mullenweg-interview | Mar 16 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | How WordPress and Tumblr are keeping the internet weird - The Verge | Mar 16 07:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββ β βββ βββ ββ βββ βββββ ββ βββββ β βββββββ avg(k/sec) 31.61 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 60.91β swarm size (avg): 277.71 β² | Mar 16 07:59 |
| techrights-news | "But most people, particularly beginners, wonβt use the Raspberry Pi to whip up crazy creations." https://www.pcworld.com/article/420028/10-practical-raspberry-pi-projects-anybody-can-do.html | Mar 16 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 practical things to do with a Raspberry Pi | PCWorld | Mar 16 07:59 | |
| techrights-news | "EuroBSDCon is the European technical conference for users and developers of BSD-based systems." https://2022.eurobsdcon.org/the-call-for-talk-and-presentation-proposals-for-eurobsdcon-2022-is-now-open/ | Mar 16 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2022.eurobsdcon.org | Call for Proposals β EuroBSDCon | Mar 16 08:00 | |
| techrights-news | "Itβs not old code thatβs technical debt, itβs lightly-designed code. That thing that seemed like the solution when you first thought of it." https://www.sicpers.info/2022/03/when-to-address-technical-debt/ | Mar 16 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sicpers.info | When to βaddressβ βtechnical debtβ? | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers | Mar 16 08:00 | |
| techrights-news | "Four hundred drones were suspended over the city during the South by Southwest festival to form a giant, hovering β¦ QR code?" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/halo-sxsw-drones-1235110882/ | Mar 16 08:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Alien Drone Swarm Freaks Out Austin with Giant Hovering QR Code β The Hollywood Reporter | Mar 16 08:03 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/irc-proceedings-tuesday-march-15-2022/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/16/irc-proceedings-tuesday-march-15-2022/ | Mar 16 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 | Techrights | Mar 16 08:03 | |
| techrights-news | Intel will need actual demand to sell its crappy chips. I think they exaggerate their importance at this stage. https://itwire.com/business-it-news/hardware-and-storage/resellers/intel-to-invest-%e2%82%ac80b-in-eu-in-bid-to-catch-up-with-rivals.html | Mar 16 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Intel to invest β¬80b in EU in bid to catch up with rivals | Mar 16 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | With hardware sales decreasing... new excuses. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3653589/arm-to-cut-up-to-15-of-jobs-following-failed-nvidia-takeover.html | Mar 16 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arm to cut up to 15% of jobs following failed takeover by Nvidia | Computerworld | Mar 16 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | Bubble: "Arm embarked on a rapid hiring spree after SoftBank acquired the company for Β£24bn in 2016, promising to double staff over five years." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/03/14/british-tech-champion-arm-slash-hundreds-jobs/ | Mar 16 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | British tech champion Arm to slash hundreds of jobs | Mar 16 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | About time. DST needs to be abolished. https://www.voanews.com/a/us-senate-approves-bill-to-make-daylight-saving-time-permanent-/6487320.html | Mar 16 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | US Senate Approves Bill to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent | Mar 16 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | "The bill has bipartisan backing including several Republican and Democratic cosponsors" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/15/politics/senate-daylight-saving-time-permanent/index.html | Mar 16 08:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Senate passes bill that would make Daylight Saving Time permanent - CNNPolitics | Mar 16 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | "The Senate passed a bill Tuesday that would make daylight saving time permanent across the U.S. beginning in 2023." https://text.npr.org/1086773840 | Mar 16 08:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | The Senate approves a bill to make daylight saving time permanent | Mar 16 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | "So on Tuesday, with almost no warning and no debate, the Senate unanimously passed legislation to do away with the biannual springing forward" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/us/politics/daylight-saving-time-senate.html | Mar 16 08:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Senate Approves Making Daylight Saving Time Permanent - The New York Times | Mar 16 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | There is NO such thing as "FREE" video hosting https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22979126/vimeo-patreon-creators-price-increase | Mar 16 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Vimeo is telling creators to suddenly pay thousands of dollars β or leave the platform - The Verge | Mar 16 08:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Spain will become an important link for [espionage Zuckerberg] in Europe as its two subsea cables connecting the region with the Americas and Africa" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/meta-to-hire-2000-staff-for-spanish-hub-for-regional-expansion/90250040 | Mar 16 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | meta: Meta to hire 2,000 staff for Spanish hub for regional expansion, CIO News, ET CIO | Mar 16 08:11 | |
| techrights-news | Internet breaking https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/russia-nearly-isolated-online-mean-internets-future-rcna19389 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/ | Mar 16 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Russia is nearly isolated online. What does that mean for the internetβs future? | Mar 16 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights | Mar 16 08:12 | |
| techrights-news | US war on Russia might have an unpexcted casualty: the US dollar https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/598257-saudi-arabia-considers-accepting-yuan-instead-of-dollar-for-oil | Mar 16 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Saudi Arabia reportedly considering accepting yuan instead of dollar for oil sales | TheHill | Mar 16 08:12 | |
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| techrights-news | Not on Russia crucified journalists. UK/US do the same https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60743322 https://www.reuters.com/world/wikileaks-assange-denied-permission-appeal-extradite-decision-supreme-court-2022-03-14/ https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2022/03/14/Supreme-Court-Assange-extradition-appeal/8741647285845/ | Mar 16 08:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julian Assange denied permission to appeal against extradition - BBC News | Mar 16 08:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WikiLeaks' Assange denied permission to appeal extradition decision at UK Supreme Court | Reuters | Mar 16 08:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Britain's Supreme Court won't hear Julian Assange extradition appeal - UPI.com | Mar 16 08:18 | |
| techrights-news | "the application does not raise an arguable point of law." https://www.axios.com/uk-court-julian-assange-extradition-47cea5d0-a68f-4909-bf44-dd11f518b16f.html | Mar 16 08:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.axios.com | U.K. Supreme Court denies Assange permission to appeal extradition | Mar 16 08:18 | |
| techrights-news | More kangaroos: "Under the next steps in the legal process, the case will now be remitted to Westminster Magistrates' Court in London" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/assange-set-to-make-submissions-to-uk-minister-after-losing-supreme-court-appeal/ | Mar 16 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/assange-set-to-make-submissions-to-uk-minister-after-losing-supreme-court-appeal ) | Mar 16 08:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Britainβs highest court has rejected an appeal from Julian Assange, who is seeking to block his extradition to the United States." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/15/headlines/uk_supreme_court_wont_halt_extradition_of_julian_assange_to_us | Mar 16 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | U.K. Supreme Court Wonβt Halt Extradition of Julian Assange to U.S. | Democracy Now! | Mar 16 08:19 | |
| techrights-news | UK imitates China https://fee.org/articles/uk-considering-legislation-that-would-imprison-internet-trolls/ | Mar 16 08:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fee.org | UK's Online Safety Bill Would Imprison Internet Trolls and Erode Free Speech - Foundation for Economic Education | Mar 16 08:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Online Safety Bill returns to Parliament amid chorus of criticism even from Tories" https://tittlepress.com/trending/1633405/ | Mar 16 08:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Online Safety Bill returns to Parliament amid chorus of criticism even from Tories - TittlePress | Mar 16 08:20 | |
| techrights-news | Misinformation comes not just from Russia https://today.rtl.lu/news/fact-check/a/1880124.html | Mar 16 08:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Fact Check: This is not a genuine listing for 'a Russian tank on eBay' | Mar 16 08:23 | |
| techrights-news | "The Committee will hear from witnesses representing a range of industry sectors including: IT, telecommunications, education, health care, logistics" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/public-hearing-into-second-tranche-of-cyber-laws.html | Mar 16 08:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Public hearing into second tranche of cyber laws | Mar 16 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "The DRCF has a vital role to play in delivering on this vision through its work to create a more coherent regulatory ecosystem." https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/letter-from-dcms-secretary-of-state-to-the-digital-regulation-cooperation-forum/letter-from-dcms-secretary-of-state-to-the-digital-regulation-cooperation-forum-html | Mar 16 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Letter from DCMS Secretary of State to the Digital Regulation Cooperation Forum - HTML - GOV.UK | Mar 16 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | βJust this morning on our way to school, our four-year-old son asked me when daddy will come home. Julianβs life is being treated as if it were expendable." https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/stella-moris-statement-on-uk-supreme-courts-refusal-to-hear-assange-appeal/ | Mar 16 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Stella Moris statement on UK Supreme Court's refusal to hear Assange Appeal - Don't Extradite Assange | Mar 16 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | "With Julian still, for no rational reason, held in maximum security, the legal process around his extradition continues to meander its way through the overgrown bridlepaths of the UKβs legal system." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/03/assange-extradition-on-to-the-next-hurdle/ | Mar 16 08:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Assange Extradition: On To The Next Hurdle - Craig Murray | Mar 16 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | Baraitser is a mole https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/15/rotten-rulings-julian-assange-and-the-uk-supreme-court/ | Mar 16 08:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rotten Rulings: Julian Assange and the UK Supreme Court - CounterPunch.org | Mar 16 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | "Julian was just doing his job, which was to publish the truth about wrongdoing." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/15/assanges-fiancee-releases-heartbreaking-response-uk-court-ruling | Mar 16 08:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Assange's FiancΓ©e Releases 'Heartbreaking' Response to UK Court Ruling | Mar 16 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | βWhether Julian is extradited or not, which is the same as saying whether he lives or dies" https://shadowproof.com/2022/03/15/uk-supreme-court-slams-door-assange-extradition-appeal/ | Mar 16 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shadowproof.com | UK Supreme Court Slams Door On Assange Appeal | Mar 16 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | Patents kill million amid pandemic, all in the name of profits https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/15/appalling-deal-ip-waiver-reportedly-limited-covid-vaccines | Mar 16 08:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Appalling': Deal on IP Waiver Reportedly Limited to Covid Vaccines | Mar 16 08:37 | |
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| kingoffrance | quote immibis "There are 4 possible outcomes to the housing market: (1) market crash, (2) hyperinflation, (3) return to feudalism, (4) communist revolution" i should emphasize, there was supposed to be a "jubilee" every 50 years. not that i buy any "global reset" nonsense, but thats another thing to thank the "churches" for. not that i even advocate that...just these things are not new. "love your government with all your heart, and all your | Mar 16 08:52 |
| kingoffrance | soul" -- djt | Mar 16 08:52 |
| kingoffrance | anyhow, that wont be part of "saving western civilization". all the image, none of the actuality | Mar 16 08:53 |
| kingoffrance | (paraphrase) "almost all the positions are false" | Mar 16 08:54 |
| kingoffrance | one of those "who needs satire" moments lol | Mar 16 08:54 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββββββ βββββ βββββ βββββ ββββββββ ββββββ avg(k/sec) 20.61 β IPFS upstream: ββ βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 65.53β swarm size (avg): 277.73 β² | Mar 16 08:59 |
| kingoffrance | i imagine whatever was supposed to prevent those scenarios was systematically dismantled | Mar 16 09:14 |
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| techrights-news | Starbucks an enemy of people https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/15/nlrb-complaint-accuses-starbucks-retaliating-against-union-leaders | Mar 16 09:20 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/15/nlrb-complaint-accuses-starbucks-retaliating-against-union-leaders | Mar 16 09:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | NLRB Complaint Accuses Starbucks of Retaliating Against Union Leaders | Mar 16 09:20 | |
| techrights-news | Not putting criminals in prison but those who expose those criminals https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/15/100-groups-urge-biden-pardon-human-rights-lawyer-steven-donziger | Mar 16 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 100+ Groups Urge Biden to Pardon Human Rights Lawyer Steven Donziger | Mar 16 09:21 | |
| techrights-news | "As of 2016, almost 2,000 people a day were allowed through TSA checkpoints at US airports either without showing any ID at all" https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/03/15/how-many-people-fly-without-real-id/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ | Mar 16 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papersplease.org | How many people fly without REAL-ID? β Papers, Please! | Mar 16 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights | Mar 16 09:22 | |
| techrights-news | "The Patent and Market Court of Appeal has overturned the prison sentences of three men who were criminally prosecuted for their involvement with IPTV service ATN." https://torrentfreak.com/court-overturns-pirate-iptv-prison-sentences-due-to-unenforceable-copyrights-220315/ | Mar 16 09:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Overturns βPirateβ IPTV Prison Sentences Due to Unenforceable Copyrights * TorrentFreak | Mar 16 09:23 | |
| techrights-news | "coalition of major Hollywood studios and Netflix" (Netflix is with the cartel) https://torrentfreak.com/primewire-removes-pirate-movies-tv-shows-to-frustrate-court-injunctions-220315/ | Mar 16 09:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PrimeWire Removes Pirate Movies & TV Shows To Frustrate Court Injunctions * TorrentFreak | Mar 16 09:24 | |
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| techrights-news | Zuckerberg profits from this https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/15/business-as-usual-facebook-russia-and-hate-speech/ | Mar 16 09:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Business as Usual: Facebook, Russia and Hate Speech - CounterPunch.org | Mar 16 09:29 | |
| techrights-news | "ICE wants data and doesnβt care how it gets it. Its recently-elevated pursuit of all things not considered naturally American has increased its demands for information" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/15/sen-ron-wyden-catches-ice-illegally-collecting-americans-financial-data/ | Mar 16 09:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sen. Ron Wyden Catches ICE Illegally Collecting Americansβ Financial Data | Techdirt | Mar 16 09:30 | |
| techrights-news | ApocaPi Now Is A Cyberdeck For What Comes After https://hackaday.com/2022/03/15/apocapi-now-is-a-cyberdeck-for-what-comes-after/ | Mar 16 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ApocaPi Now Is A Cyberdeck For What Comes After | Hackaday | Mar 16 09:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Are you a math aficionado in need of a new desk toy? Then do we have the project for you. With nothing more than an Arduino and a seven-segment LED module" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/15/simple-arduino-build-lets-you-keep-an-eye-on-pi/ | Mar 16 09:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Simple Arduino Build Lets You Keep An Eye On Pi | Hackaday | Mar 16 09:33 | |
| techrights-news | Lumen is breaking the Net to help Empire https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/15/telecom-giant-lumen-punishes-putin-by-encouraging-his-plan-for-a-censored-splinternet/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/ | Mar 16 09:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Telecom Giant Lumen βPunishesβ Putin By Encouraging His Plan For A Censored Splinternet | Techdirt | Mar 16 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights | Mar 16 09:41 | |
| techrights-news | UK human rights under attack by Vladimir Borisnaro https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/15/uks-online-safety-bill-to-criminalize-dick-pics-and-hold-social-media-companies-liable-for-any-that-are-sent/ | Mar 16 09:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UKβs Online Safety Bill To Criminalize Dick Picsβ¦ And Hold Social Media Companies Liable For Any That Are Sent | Techdirt | Mar 16 09:42 | |
| techrights-news | "And, what am I doing instead of school? Nothing, really. I wish I was working on cool projects and stuff as I used to; but no, I'm not. No more meaningful projects since mid-2019." gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-06-12-doing-terrible-in-school.gmi | Mar 16 09:44 |
| techrights-news | Gulag uses Mozills: "antitrust-shield (a.k.a. βfirefoxβ) killed classic extensions" gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-01-10.gmi | Mar 16 09:46 |
| techrights-news | Internet censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/15/preeminent-constitutional-legal-scholar-files-embarrassingly-confused-amicus-brief-in-favor-of-texas-ability-to-tell-websites-how-to-moderate/ | Mar 16 09:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-βPreeminentβ Constitutional Legal Scholar Files Embarrassingly Confused Amicus Brief In Favor Of Texasβ Ability To Tell Websites How To Moderate | Techdirt | Mar 16 09:50 | |
| techrights-news | Why does techdirt say "IP"? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/15/new-york-times-begins-the-wordle-ip-purge-gets-wordle-archive-taken-down/ | Mar 16 09:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New York Times Begins The βWordleβ IP Purge, Gets βWordle Archiveβ Taken Down | Techdirt | Mar 16 09:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | THere's a Linux 5.16 kernel in Debian backports now. | Mar 16 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed they started the freeze for Debian 12 already, even though it won't be out for more than a year. | Mar 16 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | That's.....highly unusual amond distributions. | Mar 16 09:57 |
| matey | is it lts? | Mar 16 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | All Debian releases are basically LTS. | Mar 16 10:00 |
| matey | i used to agree | Mar 16 10:00 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: Putin's polittechnologists absolutely monitor the social networks, both for censorship and to check what opinions fly. | Mar 16 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | Officially, they're supported for at least 5 years, but I understand they usually go on for some time after that. | Mar 16 10:00 |
| matey | for clarification, see mincer | Mar 16 10:00 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββββββ βββββ βββββ βββββ ββββββββ ββββββ avg(k/sec) 20.61 β IPFS upstream: ββ βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 65.53β swarm size (avg): 277.73 β² | Mar 16 10:00 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | 277.76 β² | Mar 16 10:00 |
| matey | i mean for what its worth, what youre saying is exactly what i used to like about them | Mar 16 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | There used to be EOL support for Fedora... | Mar 16 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | Until there got to be WAY too many Fedora releases to do that for at once. | Mar 16 10:01 |
| matey | no one has supported fedoras eol like ibm | Mar 16 10:01 |
| kingoffrance | XRevan86, i believe it, and "the west" too . somewhere in the scroll back that was suggested :D | Mar 16 10:01 |
| matey | or worked harder to bring it about | Mar 16 10:01 |
| kingoffrance | that twitter thing is not surprising, just a link...but that's how they sell it to governments | Mar 16 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora Legacy was supporting Red Hat Linux 9 through like Fedora 4 by the time they announced they were going to stop. | Mar 16 10:01 |
| kingoffrance | it states the intention/goals anyway. supposed to be a "revival" of town square type thing | Mar 16 10:02 |
| kingoffrance | that politicians could not talk to citizens without it | Mar 16 10:02 |
| matey | funny how fedora had a concept of actual support | Mar 16 10:02 |
| kingoffrance | same way they always answer the phone, and your letters, and emails... | Mar 16 10:02 |
| matey | and it interfered with red hats deformed concept of support | Mar 16 10:02 |
| kingoffrance | twitter they will magically answer your tweets lol | Mar 16 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | So did Microsoft at one point. | Mar 16 10:03 |
| kingoffrance | *politicians and gov employees | Mar 16 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | They had a 1-800 number you could call and get support for Windows. Even if it was OEM. | Mar 16 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then they changed it to "Only retail editions." which almost nobody buys. | Mar 16 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | Retail SKUs are uncommon because most people building their own PC either don't want Windows or just go some place with suspiciously cheap OEM licenses, or pirate it. | Mar 16 10:04 |
| matey | or just go some place with suspiciously cheap OEM licenses <- like crazy phils oem license and bait shop | Mar 16 10:05 |
| matey | closed on wednesdays | Mar 16 10:06 |
| techrights-news | "Until some late night wandering down the alleys I had never heard of gemini (avoids the glaring stares), but the regulars are a friendly bunch." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/835 | Mar 16 10:11 |
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| techrights-news | Greg Guice To Testify Before House Energy & Commerce Committee on 5G - Public Knowledge β https://publicknowledge.org/greg-guice-to-testify-before-house-energy-commerce-committee-on-5g/ | Mar 16 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Greg Guice To Testify Before House Energy & Commerce Committee on 5G - Public Knowledge | Mar 16 10:21 | |
| techrights-news | IFF Explains: Bharat Financial Inclusion Limited Loan 'glitch'; β https://internetfreedom.in/bfil-consent-scam/ | Mar 16 10:21 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/bfil-consent-scam/ | Mar 16 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | IFF Explains: Bharat Financial Inclusion Limited Loan 'glitch' | Mar 16 10:21 | |
| techrights-news | "Removed infodump regarding Down's syndrome health problems." gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-04-16-you-know-what-i-support-rms.gmi | Mar 16 10:29 |
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| DaemonFC | <matey> or just go some place with suspiciously cheap OEM licenses <- like crazy phils oem license and bait shop | Mar 16 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | Criminals who clone credit cards buy OEM licenses in bulk. | Mar 16 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then they sell them to these stores and you get them for $20 or so. | Mar 16 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then when Microsoft gets the chargeback, they invalidate the license and Windows Activation reverts to "not activated" and you never see those two sawbucks again. | Mar 16 10:34 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I always remind people of the New Orleans Police Department when they tell me the cops are the good guys. | Mar 16 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | I say, "Yeah, like Katrina where instead of restoring order, the police went around robbing and shooting, and looting. | Mar 16 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | They had the police disarming people who had not committed a crime. | Mar 16 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | There was no "martial law" order at any point during the disaster. | Mar 16 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | Most of those people were carrying guns (legally) because the police weren't protecting them from anything. | Mar 16 10:54 |
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| techrights-news | Paid-for SPAM/garbage. Linux Foundation polluting "Linux" sites with its diploma mill stuff, which lowers the change they'll ever speak out against it. https://news.itsfoss.com/cloud-native-developer-bootcamp-launch/ | Mar 16 10:57 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.itsfoss.com/cloud-native-developer-bootcamp-launch/ | Mar 16 10:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Linux Foundation Launches New Bootcamp to Create More Cloud Native Developers - It's FOSS News | Mar 16 10:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, My favorite Katrina video was the police showing up and looting Walmart. | Mar 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | One of those black lady cops starts grabbing shoes and stuff. | Mar 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Just walks right off with all of it. | Mar 16 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Threatens the guy for recording them, of course. | Mar 16 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing to do with techrights | Mar 16 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | quit doing this... | Mar 16 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | This was a long time before the cops started playing music to get YouTube to take down the video. | Mar 16 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably still out there. | Mar 16 11:01 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJfB8EKWoA | Mar 16 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7MJfB8EKWoA | Mar 16 11:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Hurricane Katrina Police looting Walmart MSNBC - Invidious | Mar 16 11:02 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162603 | Mar 16 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 16 11:03 | |
| DaemonFC | The police in Round Lake Beach and Gurnee didn't do anything in 2020. | Mar 16 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | They picked the Walmarts clean. | Mar 16 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | The cops in Waukegan surprisingly actually showed up and kept the looters out of the store completely. | Mar 16 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | I was worried they'd destroy the store and that my spouse would be sent home without pay until someone could clean it all up. | Mar 16 11:05 |
| techrights-news | "Apache Camel is known as the Swiss knife of integration, and you probably grasped by now that Camel goes even further than that. It offers a wide variety of different runtimes that help propagate a solid foundation for integrations." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/16/choose-best-camel-your-integration-ride-part-3 | Mar 16 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Choose the best camel for your integration ride, Part 3 | Red Hat Developer | Mar 16 11:05 | |
| DaemonFC | The people who suffer are always the honest people who aren't doing anything wrong. | Mar 16 11:05 |
| techrights-news | ICBM on neglecting the βhuman element?β https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/digital-transformation-human-mistakes-avoid | Mar 16 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 5 'human' mistakes to avoid | The Enterprisers Project | Mar 16 11:06 | |
| techrights-news | Maybe the problem is not "skills shortage" but a hype issue. Maybe Kubernetes is being overused and promoted for support contracts by ICBM. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/address-kubernetes-skills-shortage | Mar 16 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT talent: 4 ways to address a Kubernetes skills shortage | The Enterprisers Project | Mar 16 11:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: sttfu and get back on topic | Mar 16 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | quite interjecting racism | Mar 16 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | *quit | Mar 16 11:08 |
| SomeH4x0r | topic? | Mar 16 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, there is a topic | Mar 16 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | #techrights | Mar 16 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | not #IHateBlacks | Mar 16 11:09 |
| techrights-news | "curl-minimal would disable lesser used protocols and features. The discussion around exactly which parts it should disable is ongoing. The proposal was at least initially shut down by the Fedora Steering Committee" https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/16/fedora-and-curl-minimal/ | Mar 16 11:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora and curl-minimal | daniel.haxx.se | Mar 16 11:09 | |
| DaemonFC | They already have several perfectly good failed states down south. | Mar 16 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why people have to come fuck up the midwest. We don't need any help with that. | Mar 16 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | 80% of HIV/AIDS deaths in America today happen in 5 states. | Mar 16 11:10 |
| techrights-news | "But what happens when you install more than one version of Java on your system? In that case, you'll have to take on the extra responsibility of understanding where each version's JAVA_HOME is located." This week ICBM Red Hat outsourced its site to Amazon. https://opensource.com/article/22/3/find-java-home | Mar 16 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to find your Java Home when running multiple versions | Opensource.com | Mar 16 11:11 | |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of proxies for "I don't want to live THERE because..." that I look at closely. | Mar 16 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Mom was like, "Oh, let's move to Mississippi, they're cheap." I was like, "Let me list why you don't want to do that.". | Mar 16 11:11 |
| techrights-news | This is not a problem with Linux, but to distract from massive Microsoft breaches they'd latch onto anything at this stage... https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/03/16/attackers-using-default-credentials/ | Mar 16 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Attackers using default credentials to target businesses, Raspberry Pi and Linux top targets - Help Net Security | Mar 16 11:12 | |
| DaemonFC | activelow mentioned the lingering effects of Communism on the area of the former East Germany. | Mar 16 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Parts of the United States had the same phenomenon, kind of. They never recovered economically from the Civil War. | Mar 16 11:13 |
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| DaemonFC | Despite a ton of welfare and subsidies, they never recovered. | Mar 16 11:13 |
| matey | Then when Microsoft gets the chargeback, they invalidate the license and Windows Activation reverts to "not activated" and you never see those two sawbucks again. <- ive been scammed before, it sucks | Mar 16 11:14 |
| matey | nothing on par with windows itself in terms of a scam, but still | Mar 16 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should write an article on the failure of transfer payments to stimulate a bad economy. | Mar 16 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Send it to RMS. | Mar 16 11:14 |
| SomeH4x0r | hi matey | Mar 16 11:14 |
| matey | hi SomeH4x0r | Mar 16 11:14 |
| SomeH4x0r | matey: it does not revert | Mar 16 11:14 |
| techrights-news | The Dutch are implementing Stalin's Dream https://blogs.fsfe.org/nico.rikken/2022/03/16/dutch-digital-identity-system-crisis/ governments that mandate "mobile" like that are not worth having. Zero legitimacy. | Mar 16 11:14 |
| SomeH4x0r | however, you won't be able to reactivate | Mar 16 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.fsfe.org | Dutch digital identity system crisis β nico.rikkenβs blog | Mar 16 11:14 | |
| matey | windows? | Mar 16 11:14 |
| SomeH4x0r | yes | Mar 16 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes Microsoft will give you a free license if you rat out the people who sold it to you like that. | Mar 16 11:15 |
| matey | oh im not bothered, i havent used it in more than a decade | Mar 16 11:15 |
| matey | except for a few minutes here and there when borrowing a machine or two | Mar 16 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | They are very interested in PC builders who use activation exploits. | Mar 16 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | And they will find out. | Mar 16 11:15 |
| matey | like liam neeson | Mar 16 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | Liam Neeson is one of the best actors ever. | Mar 16 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | He even gets bad movies and makes them tolerable to sit through. | Mar 16 11:16 |
| matey | hes not bad | Mar 16 11:16 |
| matey | he couldnt save "tree of life" | Mar 16 11:16 |
| matey | im not sure he was in it, but it wouldnt make any difference | Mar 16 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | He's like what Captain Picard (Patrick Stewart) is to Star Trek: TNG. | Mar 16 11:17 |
| matey | i would say tng wasnt that bad | Mar 16 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the episodes are really badly written, but he's a strong lead. | Mar 16 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | So it limps by because of him. | Mar 16 11:17 |
| matey | i mean im not sure id believe it, but i would say it | Mar 16 11:17 |
| matey | but ds9 started and stewart couldnt | Mar 16 11:17 |
| matey | until season 2, when everything started getting alright | Mar 16 11:18 |
| matey | i mean he was only there for 5 minutes, he probably gave up after that | Mar 16 11:18 |
| matey | "ive got to get in a WHEElchaihhh" | Mar 16 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | If they had transferred Picard to DS9, that would have made DS9 a better show. | Mar 16 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | He did the TNG movies though. | Mar 16 11:19 |
| matey | dont tell me you didnt like the blacks in ds9 either, sisko was awesome (again, after season 1) | Mar 16 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | With a Hollywood movie budget, TNG did a lot better than it did on TV. | Mar 16 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | That bottle episode of TNG with Riker getting attacked by the tree with the darts with the virus in them is what I skip every time. | Mar 16 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | It was done during a writer's guild strike. | Mar 16 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | The episode is absolute trash. | Mar 16 11:20 |
| matey | tng had some really weird episodes | Mar 16 11:21 |
| techrights-news | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162604 | Mar 16 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat | Tux Machines | Mar 16 11:21 | |
| matey | i dont mean sci fi weird, i mean "what were they thinking" weird | Mar 16 11:21 |
| matey | like how did that make it past the script | Mar 16 11:22 |
| matey | and stuff that didnt even seem to fit the rest of the show, let alone the storyline | Mar 16 11:22 |
| techrights-news | "While debugging, itβs invaluable to be able to trace functions in the Linux kernel. There are several tools for that task: perf, ftrace (with helper tool like trace-cmd), bpftrace, etc." https://politreco.com/2022/03/tracepoints-and-kernel-modules/ | Mar 16 11:22 |
| matey | "no ones watching this week anyway, lets run whatever this is" | Mar 16 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politreco.com | Tracepoints and kernelΒ modules | Mar 16 11:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, in the future, a lot of the crime has gone away just because there's no scarcity anymore. | Mar 16 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Race relations probably would improve if anyone can walk up to a replicator and get food and clothes, and there's no money anymore so no payday lenders and landlords. | Mar 16 11:23 |
| matey | marx said the same thing | Mar 16 11:24 |
| matey | minus the replicator per se | Mar 16 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | We're being squeezed worse than ever for food, fuel, rent, everything. | Mar 16 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Worse than ever. | Mar 16 11:25 |
| matey | yeah nothing actually works if everything flows from the poor to the rich | Mar 16 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | But Communist countries never did figure out how to deal with shortages or consumer demand for that answer. | Mar 16 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Sticking it all in the hands of politicians doesn't solve things. | Mar 16 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | It gives you different problems. | Mar 16 11:26 |
| matey | sticking it all in the hands of politicians was never the plan at all | Mar 16 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | In many ways, the Soviet Union (and China today) are more Dickens than Marx. | Mar 16 11:27 |
| matey | its very true | Mar 16 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | They eliminate homelessness and unemployment. | Mar 16 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | How? | Mar 16 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | "Are there no prisons!? No work camps!?" | Mar 16 11:27 |
| matey | the main difference between marxism and anarchism is the list of steps to get there | Mar 16 11:28 |
| matey | creating stalin is not one of those steps | Mar 16 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Communism is a fantasy document because...... | Mar 16 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | People will accept their needs being met and nothing more. | Mar 16 11:29 |
| matey | thats not historically true | Mar 16 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Politicians who get power will just lay it down to transition away from a state.... | Mar 16 11:29 |
| matey | this is a straw man, but its an understandable one | Mar 16 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | Soviet politics seemed to be worse than American politics. | Mar 16 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | You couldn't get toilet paper. | Mar 16 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | But they built 60,000 nuclear weapons. | Mar 16 11:30 |
| matey | soviet politics dovetailed with hitlers | Mar 16 11:30 |
| matey | they were monstrous | Mar 16 11:30 |
| matey | lethal, treacherous | Mar 16 11:31 |
| matey | but thats during stalin | Mar 16 11:31 |
| matey | and how it got that way is an important lesson (as is how hitler rose to power) | Mar 16 11:31 |
| matey | heres a fun fact i learned today | Mar 16 11:31 |
| matey | churchills favourite cognac? | Mar 16 11:32 |
| matey | ararat, from the soviet union | Mar 16 11:32 |
| matey | stalin used to ship him a case now and then | Mar 16 11:32 |
| matey | i mean thats not a scandal, its a glimpse into the reality of the era though | Mar 16 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, and Stalin liked Coca Cola so much there was a secret product made just for him. | Mar 16 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | "White Coke" which was intended to not make it obvious what he was drinking. | Mar 16 11:33 |
| matey | coca cola was never a nice company | Mar 16 11:33 |
| matey | and stalin was never a nice leader | Mar 16 11:33 |
| matey | russian hitler basically | Mar 16 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | While Russians had to make do with whatever they could get and were told that the West was degenerate, Stalin was cracking open cans of Coke smuggled in through embassies in Moscow. | Mar 16 11:33 |
| matey | oh it wasnt just stalin-- but it was because of stalin | Mar 16 11:34 |
| matey | the state under his leadership was like that in general | Mar 16 11:34 |
| matey | anyone who wants to understand the state of free software should read about the russian revolution | Mar 16 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | How could a nation state not replicate Coca Cola? | Mar 16 11:35 |
| matey | secret formula! | Mar 16 11:35 |
| matey | besides, why make your own milk when the company will send you one of their own famous cows? | Mar 16 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, that's why you just keep tweaking it and tasting the results. | Mar 16 11:35 |
| matey | youre missing the point that these were tokens of friendship | Mar 16 11:36 |
| matey | stalin sold out his own country on many fronts: british, german, american | Mar 16 11:37 |
| matey | his regime wasnt just the antithesis of what people in russia fought for | Mar 16 11:37 |
| techrights-news | First Ever Eco-Certified Computer Program: KDEβs Popular PDF Reader Okular β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162605 | Mar 16 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Ever Eco-Certified Computer Program: KDE's Popular PDF Reader Okular | Tux Machines | Mar 16 11:37 | |
| matey | he literally rounded them all up and killed them (anyone left over from the victories of the past) | Mar 16 11:37 |
| techrights-news | DevTerm modular Linux terminal gets a RISC-V module compatible with Raspberry Pi CM3 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162606 | Mar 16 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DevTerm modular Linux terminal gets a RISC-V module compatible with Raspberry Pi CM3 | Tux Machines | Mar 16 11:37 | |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel VideoStudio Pro β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162607 | Mar 16 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel VideoStudio Pro | Tux Machines | Mar 16 11:38 | |
| techrights-news | 1-Stream IPTV streaming software offers an alternative to Xtream Codes β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162608 | Mar 16 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 1-Stream IPTV streaming software offers an alternative to Xtream Codes | Tux Machines | Mar 16 11:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I always figured those disgusting supermarket brand sodas were designed to be bad on purpose. | Mar 16 11:38 |
| matey | theyre still a mystery to me | Mar 16 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | To move more Coke and Pepsi. | Mar 16 11:38 |
| matey | that would explain a lot | Mar 16 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | They have "budget" cigarettes too that you can only find in discount tobacco shops on the bad side of town. | Mar 16 11:39 |
| matey | im sure its different when youre talking about an addiction of that magnatude | Mar 16 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | People save another dollar or something and then the entire apartment complex gets gassed by what they're up there smoking. | Mar 16 11:40 |
| matey | not that sugar isnt addictive | Mar 16 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | It smells less like a Marlboro and more like someone drew a pentagram on the floor upstairs and conjured Satan. | Mar 16 11:40 |
| matey | it even says so right on the box | Mar 16 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | I can't imagine that those infamous Russian cigarettes are much worse than that. | Mar 16 11:40 |
| matey | the surgeon general had to phrase things carefully to avoid "church and state" issues | Mar 16 11:41 |
| techrights-news | Rust outsourced almost everything to proprietary software of Microsoft. You probably do not want software based on Rust. https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/03/16/CTCFT-march.html | Mar 16 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | CTCFT 2022-03-21 Agenda | Inside Rust Blog | Mar 16 11:41 | |
| DaemonFC | They still make those apparently, and the state still owns it. | Mar 16 11:41 |
| matey | you should never underestimate the horribleness of russian products under stalin | Mar 16 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that the Chinese even allows smoking. | Mar 16 11:41 |
| matey | population control? | Mar 16 11:41 |
| matey | two birds with one smoke | Mar 16 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | When I was unloading a truck one day in 2003, I found a lighter that played some music. | Mar 16 11:42 |
| matey | taps? | Mar 16 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Then I got a few more rows back and found someone's wallet and cigarettes. | Mar 16 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | I lit one of the cigarettes and took a drag off of it. It was the most horrible thing ever. | Mar 16 11:42 |
| matey | honestly i figure tobacco has an important cultural history in china or something | Mar 16 11:42 |
| matey | maybe not as cigarettes though | Mar 16 11:42 |
| matey | but as long as smoking tobacco is allowed | Mar 16 11:43 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162609 | Mar 16 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 16 11:43 | |
| matey | i think pipe smoking goes back a ways | Mar 16 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Smoking used to be allowed anywhere in the US. | Mar 16 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | It was so common there were disposable ash trays at most fast food restaurants. | Mar 16 11:44 |
| matey | the us has a history with prohibition | Mar 16 11:44 |
| matey | hey i remember when they had ashtrays on PLANES | Mar 16 11:44 |
| techrights-news | This is how Windows will die. And users of Windows will not be able to concentrate or be productive. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22979251/microsoft-file-explorer-ads-windows-11-testing | Mar 16 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft says Windows 11 File Explorer ads were βnot intended to be published externallyβ - The Verge | Mar 16 11:44 | |
| matey | before they were headphone jacks | Mar 16 11:44 |
| kingoffrance | im sure you've seen the mainframe with built-in ashtray | Mar 16 11:45 |
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| kingoffrance | the caption reads "some vices were permitted" it was military or navy underground IIRC | Mar 16 11:45 |
| matey | granted i thought they were disgusting, but if you didnt put your fingers in them they only smelled foul | Mar 16 11:45 |
| matey | some vices were permitted <- they should write that under the flag itself | Mar 16 11:45 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is lying to the media. But it also bribes the media. So a lot of the media repeats the lies. | Mar 16 11:45 |
| kingoffrance | there was a book of just photos of various computers | Mar 16 11:45 |
| matey | id love to see that book | Mar 16 11:46 |
| bnchs | gulagtube search engine, you search videos of tragedies like "christchurch shooting video", you get thousands of news reports instead | Mar 16 11:46 |
| matey | im sure you've seen the mainframe with built-in ashtray <- sounds like a pdp7 option | Mar 16 11:46 |
| kingoffrance | also allowed at jurassic park on thinking machines and sgi | Mar 16 11:47 |
| bnchs | this also applies to gulag | Mar 16 11:47 |
| bnchs | where they deindexed kiwi farms for distributing the video (on torrent) | Mar 16 11:47 |
| techrights-news | New buzzwords for storage layer with surveillance built in -- basically a massive regression peddled by companies that work for spy agencies https://ubuntu.com//blog/cloud-adjacent-storage | Mar 16 11:49 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/cloud-adjacent-storage | Mar 16 11:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cloud Adjacent Storage | Ubuntu | Mar 16 11:49 | |
| matey | https://www.geekwire.com/2017/museum-makes-moldy-machines-work-saving-historic-computers-future/ "A lot of the mainframes and minis built in the 1960s and '70s had ashtrays built into the counters," Carlson said. "You'd be sitting there working on the machine and, of course, you're smoking a... | Mar 16 11:49 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: geekwire.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geekwire.com/2017/museum-makes-moldy-machines-work-saving-historic-computers-future/ | Mar 16 11:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How this museum makes moldy machines work again, saving historic computers for the future - GeekWire | Mar 16 11:49 | |
| matey | needs special floors, special power and special cooling-- but sure, go ahead and light up | Mar 16 11:50 |
| techrights-news | Letting people use Windows? That sounds like much greater a shadow than what's described here. https://www.fosslife.org/what-shadow-it | Mar 16 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | What Is Shadow IT? | Mar 16 11:51 | |
| matey | then again if they were square about it im sure they would have slightly less talent | Mar 16 11:51 |
| matey | sometimes youd think people didnt find out it was unhealthy until the 80s | Mar 16 11:51 |
| techrights-news | Windows is designed to be not secure. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Mar 16 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Mar 16 11:52 | |
| techrights-news | Picolibc 1.7.5 is released, but Keith Packard will need to remove it from Microsoft proprietary software GitHub for it to be taken seriously. It's a no-go when people outsource like this. It says a lot. https://keithp.com/picolibc/ | Mar 16 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-keithp.com | picolibc | Mar 16 11:56 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/16/russia-oligarchs-democracy-britain-london-politics | Mar 16 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | We claim Britain is an ethical democracy - but oligarchs know thatβs not true | Rafael Behr | The Guardian | Mar 16 11:57 | |
| techrights-news | The worse issue is, that's proprietary so you cannot fix bugs in Qt. "This massive number results in a higher likelihood that there are bugs that go unnoticed lying around in its less frequently used features or combination of features." https://www.kdab.com/the-qt-less-traveled/ | Mar 16 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Qt Less Traveled - KDAB | Mar 16 11:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Ethical democracy.....just like the US. When you lose your job and lose your house, you go from being Bob down the street to just another piece of "fair game" for the police. | Mar 16 11:57 |
| techrights-news | "ICBM and its Red Hat subsidiary are working with Microsoft" so remember to quit buying things from ICBM. They are not our allies. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/03/16/project-aims-to-port-net-framework-to-power/ http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/ | Mar 16 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | Project Aims to Port .NET Framework to Power - IT Jungle | Mar 16 11:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hatβs βState of Enterprise Open Sourceβ Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights | Mar 16 11:59 | |
| matey | the cops are there to preserve order | Mar 16 11:59 |
| matey | the order is that some people are well off, and everyone else is a potential threat to that | Mar 16 11:59 |
| matey | it helps if we mispronounce this "justice" | Mar 16 12:00 |
| matey | it helps them i mean | Mar 16 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | just us | Mar 16 12:00 |
| matey | just ice | Mar 16 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hello, police? Yes. well, my slave has flked..." | Mar 16 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | *fled | Mar 16 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | eloped | Mar 16 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | slave: "hello, police? I've just escaped someone who abuse me" | Mar 16 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | police: *hangs up* | Mar 16 12:01 |
| bnchs | search engines nowadays cant give you the thing that you're looking for | Mar 16 12:05 |
| bnchs | if its related to covid vaccines | Mar 16 12:05 |
| bnchs | or anything bad | Mar 16 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the police did return one of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims to him and then laughed about it. | Mar 16 12:06 |
| techrights-news | KDE's Okular becomes the world's first eco-certified computer program http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162605#comment-33075 | Mar 16 12:07 |
| bnchs | lol okular | Mar 16 12:07 |
| matey | the police werent very woke at the time | Mar 16 12:07 |
| bnchs | depends on a dependency that has sub dependencies that depends on QT5 WEBENGINE | Mar 16 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: I agree with you on that | Mar 16 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Ever Eco-Certified Computer Program: KDE's Popular PDF Reader Okular | Tux Machines | Mar 16 12:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | but earlier you mentioned massacare footage | Mar 16 12:08 |
| bnchs | yes that was an example | Mar 16 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I worry about the minds of people who WANT to watch that | Mar 16 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, that might reward the terrorism | Mar 16 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it might even give incentive to copycats | Mar 16 12:08 |
| matey | a greater concern for brits under thatcher than americans at least | Mar 16 12:09 |
| matey | but most of europe is like that too | Mar 16 12:09 |
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| matey | thatcher loved media blackouts | Mar 16 12:09 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: theres already a few copycats | Mar 16 12:09 |
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| matey | for fighting terrorism of course | Mar 16 12:09 |
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| bnchs | one was a fatass and failed | Mar 16 12:09 |
| bnchs | but anyway i hate media blackouts | Mar 16 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not a media blackout per se | Mar 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the terror footage | Mar 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of media footage is watered down | Mar 16 12:10 |
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| schestowitz-TR | not showing you corporse | Mar 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it can also shock families of victims | Mar 16 12:10 |
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| schestowitz-TR | not only viewers | Mar 16 12:10 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββββββββ βββ βββ βββ βββ βββ βββ βββ ββββ avg(k/sec) 24.40 β IPFS upstream: β ββ ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 26.96β swarm size (avg): 277.77 β² | Mar 16 12:10 |
| matey | these days a lot of people want to analyse footage for non-macabre reasons | Mar 16 12:10 |
| bnchs | yes its watered down | Mar 16 12:10 |
| matey | for example, theres a lot of crime solving going on online | Mar 16 12:10 |
| bnchs | the day that christchurch shooting happened | Mar 16 12:11 |
| matey | they use real footage for clues and solve actual mysteries | Mar 16 12:11 |
| bnchs | the media only showed seconds of the footage | Mar 16 12:11 |
| matey | sometimes | Mar 16 12:11 |
| bnchs | also christchurch was the day | Mar 16 12:11 |
| matey | as unpleasant as the footage is, it does have legitimate purposes. sony v betamax comes to mind | Mar 16 12:11 |
| matey | if there is a legitimate use... | Mar 16 12:11 |
| bnchs | that gulagtube removed the ability to sort videos | Mar 16 12:11 |
| bnchs | temporarily | Mar 16 12:11 |
| matey | of course reason isnt likely to win out because look, dead bodies | Mar 16 12:12 |
| matey | but theres still a rational argument to be made for not banning the footage outright | Mar 16 12:12 |
| bnchs | i actually did watch the footage | Mar 16 12:12 |
| bnchs | it was too low quality | Mar 16 12:12 |
| bnchs | most likely because it was boardcasting in facebook live | Mar 16 12:13 |
| bnchs | and some gopro-to-live stream middleware | Mar 16 12:13 |
| bnchs | anyway schestowitz-TR, people should have the right to look for the uncut footage | Mar 16 12:15 |
| bnchs | mainly for educational reasons | Mar 16 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | defiine eduction | Mar 16 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | how to maximise headshots? | Mar 16 12:15 |
| bnchs | no | Mar 16 12:15 |
| bnchs | there were some footage before he shot up that place | Mar 16 12:16 |
| bnchs | he had weapons with lots of text written on them | Mar 16 12:16 |
| bnchs | and also the places the shooter went looking for | Mar 16 12:17 |
| matey | new features for moodle | Mar 16 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: that's education? | Mar 16 12:18 |
| bnchs | and theres also a small "shooting" happened that also had the footage released uncut | Mar 16 12:18 |
| bnchs | the shooter was clumsy as fuck | Mar 16 12:19 |
| matey | suddenly all the ads you get while browsing are for ammo and dark clothing | Mar 16 12:19 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: well i dont know | Mar 16 12:19 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: semiconductor manufacturing in east germany was destroyed after 1990 | Mar 16 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Man, cooking bacon in an air fryer is disgusting. | Mar 16 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: you don't know? | Mar 16 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | Never realized there was this much grease. | Mar 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | you said it was for education | Mar 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not | Mar 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's for intelligence | Mar 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is for you to get flagged by your country's intel agencies | Mar 16 12:20 |
| matey | customers who bought this item also liked: black balaclava | Mar 16 12:20 |
| bnchs | really? | Mar 16 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, They successfully corralled me to online grocery orders. | Mar 16 12:20 |
| bnchs | how is one guy downloading the footage | Mar 16 12:20 |
| bnchs | gonna shoot up something | Mar 16 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | I get more points on the credit card that way so at least there's that. | Mar 16 12:21 |
| bnchs | there are people like me who were curious | Mar 16 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Mar 16 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they make the shortlist | Mar 16 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | of people more probable to become shooters | Mar 16 12:21 |
| bnchs | ok | Mar 16 12:22 |
| bnchs | you might aswell flag the media | Mar 16 12:22 |
| bnchs | for downloading the footage | Mar 16 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they look for ways to prevent such incident | Mar 16 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | one effective way is, | Mar 16 12:22 |
| bnchs | i guess nobody should be looking at it | Mar 16 12:22 |
| matey | this would be a more interesting conversation if roy were more familiar with the people who actually take an academic interest in footage like this | Mar 16 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | find out who studies the thing | Mar 16 12:22 |
| matey | besides sick people i mean | Mar 16 12:22 |
| bnchs | matey: yes | Mar 16 12:22 |
| matey | instead we are going with imagination on one side | Mar 16 12:23 |
| bnchs | they study shooter behavior | Mar 16 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: depends on their background | Mar 16 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, if they are forensic experts | Mar 16 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | who try to study how to make public places safer | Mar 16 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | or how to train secueity personnel | Mar 16 12:23 |
| matey | there are people interested in becoming forensic experts who have a legitimate interest in footage of violent events | Mar 16 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't need to download it from the Web | Mar 16 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | the state likely gives them a copy | Mar 16 12:24 |
| matey | nope, this is your imagination again | Mar 16 12:24 |
| matey | the people who actually do this actually get it from the web | Mar 16 12:24 |
| matey | youre just not familiar with the truecrime community | Mar 16 12:24 |
| matey | so you imagine what theyre like | Mar 16 12:24 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 16 12:25 |
| matey | not that bnchs is doing a great job describing | Mar 16 12:25 |
| matey | but you dont have to to be right | Mar 16 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I'm not a pedo, I just study this thing" | Mar 16 12:25 |
| bnchs | i cant really describe it | Mar 16 12:25 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: scientists were re-disposed into a "trust fund" "managed" by atlantic bridge minion war ciminals | Mar 16 12:26 |
| matey | if it pleases you to imagine a scenario where your prejudices outweigh reality, no one can stop you from doing so | Mar 16 12:26 |
| matey | but its a real community, not a hypothetical one | Mar 16 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I already trhought long and hard about this | Mar 16 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | years ago | Mar 16 12:26 |
| matey | with actual traits, not ones you simply imagine | Mar 16 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | blocking access to the manifesto was the more controversial part | Mar 16 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ISPs chipping in | Mar 16 12:26 |
| activelow | not communists in this case, although they weren't fundementally different | Mar 16 12:26 |
| matey | lol | Mar 16 12:27 |
| matey | not communists in this case, although they weren't fundementally different <- read that as roys comment at first, and wondered how it took that turn | Mar 16 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | survivors and families of victims count also | Mar 16 12:27 |
| matey | maybe | Mar 16 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and have a say | Mar 16 12:27 |
| matey | certainly not in all instances | Mar 16 12:28 |
| matey | but possibly in some | Mar 16 12:28 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: the shooting should be preserved for academic and archival reasons | Mar 16 12:28 |
| bnchs | it would help in making public places safer | Mar 16 12:28 |
| matey | its not like the networks got permission from families of 9/11 victims to show those attacks like 100 times a day. | Mar 16 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for access by security personnel | Mar 16 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for training purposes, prevention | Mar 16 12:29 |
| matey | granted its not exactly the same because not a lot of faces in that footage | Mar 16 12:29 |
| bnchs | there wasnt alot of faces in the footage aswell | Mar 16 12:29 |
| bnchs | like i said the footage was so low quality | Mar 16 12:29 |
| matey | i thought you might say that. i havent seen it. | Mar 16 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | Denmark got it right | Mar 16 12:29 |
| bnchs | it was mostly blurry | Mar 16 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would not even name the perpetrator/terrorist | Mar 16 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | Some reasons why the US south failed were the federal government's fault. | Mar 16 12:30 |
| matey | but you did mention the low quality before | Mar 16 12:30 |
| matey | what did denmark do | Mar 16 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | no fame, no incentive | Mar 16 12:30 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 16 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think only Denmark did this | Mar 16 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | that i can recall | Mar 16 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | Some were self-inflicted by state governments who couldn't get over the fact that they lost. | Mar 16 12:30 |
| matey | thats thatchers solution | Mar 16 12:30 |
| matey | i mean, maybe thatcher was right | Mar 16 12:30 |
| matey | but i never jump to the assumption | Mar 16 12:30 |
| bnchs | i mean in 9/11 | Mar 16 12:30 |
| bnchs | they named osama bin laden all day long | Mar 16 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | They decided that they'd rather be poor than industrialize and draw in educated people fron the north who would then vote. | Mar 16 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | So they wrote their state constitutions to deter industry, essentially giving up their change at prosperity. | Mar 16 12:31 |
| matey | but eventually saturn moved to smyrna tn etc | Mar 16 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | Now, ironically, industry goes there because they're so poor that if they can get a job for $10 an hour building KIAs then that's what they do. | Mar 16 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | America has its own third world country integrated into the economic zone already. | Mar 16 12:32 |
| matey | it probably helps that most of the people who were against industry moving there would be dead | Mar 16 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's called the Deep South. | Mar 16 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | The population remains relatively stable because most people are smart enough to not want to go down there. | Mar 16 12:33 |
| matey | industry does lure many | Mar 16 12:33 |
| matey | or it used to, i dont know about now | Mar 16 12:33 |
| matey | from what youre saying, probably | Mar 16 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the KIA quality control problems actually aren't from the workers down there being paid so little. | Mar 16 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | They're actually just very badly designed. | Mar 16 12:34 |
| matey | compaq started in a meeting in a crappy little diner basically | Mar 16 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | They ship the parts here and then have factory workers build them from parts. | Mar 16 12:34 |
| matey | i mean maybe the pie was great, i dont know | Mar 16 12:34 |
| techrights-news | QEMU 7.0 prepared for release https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/7.0 | Mar 16 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.qemu.org | ChangeLog/7.0 - QEMU | Mar 16 12:34 | |
| DaemonFC | It avoids import duties on cars because they're car parts. As long as you can keep the assembly costs lower than the additional tariff on entire cars, then you assemble here. | Mar 16 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | And you keep labor down by keeping the auto worker unions out. | Mar 16 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | And you make sure your employees know they're not worth much to you so if the union gets in they're finished. | Mar 16 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | If the jobs market was really any good right now, such a threat wouldn't scare anyone. | Mar 16 12:35 |
| matey | but please wont someone think of the profits | Mar 16 12:36 |
| techrights-news | Ian Barker is at it, boosting Microsoft by attacking "Linux" This is not a problem with Linux, but to distract from massive Microsoft breaches they'd latch onto anything at this stage... https://betanews.com/2022/03/16/linux-and-raspberry-pi-machines-become-top-targets-for-credential-hacking/ | Mar 16 12:36 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: betanews.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://betanews.com/2022/03/16/linux-and-raspberry-pi-machines-become-top-targets-for-credential-hacking/ | Mar 16 12:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Linux and Raspberry Pi machines become top targets for credential hacking | Mar 16 12:36 | |
| DaemonFC | The worst thing that could possibly happen is you'd fire them from a place they hate and are trying to reform and there's more jobs someplace else. | Mar 16 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | And they'll like it better there. | Mar 16 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | But that's obviously not the case. | Mar 16 12:36 |
| techrights-news | "Now fixed. The problem was caused by the xserver-xorg moving from autotools to meson. I also had to apply a patch to xephyr source, as reported in the above-linked post." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/xephyr-and-browser-menu-entry-fixes.html | Mar 16 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Xephyr and browser menu entry fixes | Mar 16 12:37 | |
| DaemonFC | There's no more money for COVID tests, masks, treatments, or vaccines. | Mar 16 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, ^ | Mar 16 12:37 |
| matey | but enough about mozilla | Mar 16 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | That happened pretty quickly. | Mar 16 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | And now with no protections at all in case you get it, they say take your masks off. | Mar 16 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart ended paid COVID leave effective March 29th. | Mar 16 12:38 |
| techrights-news | ICBM "excited to invite you to the first edition of the Fedora Mentor Summit" ... looking for slave or unpaid volunteers for ICBM profits. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mentor-summit-is-here/ | Mar 16 12:38 |
| bnchs | but | Mar 16 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Mentor Summit is here! β Fedora Community Blog | Mar 16 12:38 | |
| DaemonFC | After that, it just depends on how much personal time you have, until you're out, and then they fire you if you hit 4.5 points. | Mar 16 12:38 |
| bnchs | what if i dont want to be vaccinated | Mar 16 12:38 |
| matey | https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefox-merging-with-foxconn | Mar 16 12:39 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: mozilla.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefox-merging-with-foxconn | Mar 16 12:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefox-merging-with-foxconn ) | Mar 16 12:39 | |
| matey | fake news | Mar 16 12:39 |
| techrights-news | Buzzwords salad from SUSE. Same as Novell over 13 years ago with "agility" https://www.suse.com/c/agile-working-at-suse/ | Mar 16 12:39 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: suse.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/agile-working-at-suse/ | Mar 16 12:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Agile Working at SUSE | SUSE Communities | Mar 16 12:39 | |
| techrights-news | E-Ink Digital Paper Tablet is about the size of an A4 or US Letter paper https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/16/e-ink-digital-paper-tablet-is-about-the-size-of-an-a4-or-us-letter-paper/ Linux or Android inside... | Mar 16 12:40 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/16/e-ink-digital-paper-tablet-is-about-the-size-of-an-a4-or-us-letter-paper/ | Mar 16 12:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | E-Ink Digital Paper Tablet is about the size of an A4 or US Letter paper - CNX Software | Mar 16 12:40 | |
| techrights-news | e-ink isn't green. Yes, it reduces the use of paper, but let's not forget how the devices and batteries are made. And the energy generated to run them... | Mar 16 12:41 |
| techrights-news | Greenwashing can become like a mental illness. People tend to take into account ALL the environmental costs. Selective attention. | Mar 16 12:42 |
| bnchs | does eink work by heating up the paper? | Mar 16 12:42 |
| matey | no | Mar 16 12:42 |
| bnchs | or something else | Mar 16 12:42 |
| matey | electrostatic capsules of powder | Mar 16 12:42 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 16 12:42 |
| matey | very small | Mar 16 12:42 |
| matey | /me would love an eink monitor, doesnt care about the refresh rate | Mar 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | you need toproduce these | Mar 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and mine materials | Mar 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and transport etc. | Mar 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | paper is still quite efficient | Mar 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not OVERused | Mar 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | like printing every single draft of a long document | Mar 16 12:44 |
| matey | paper is still quite efficient <- not for a teletype instead of a screen | Mar 16 12:44 |
| matey | m not sure what your argument is, people shouldnt make screens? | Mar 16 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they want to read books | Mar 16 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are better off taking them from a friend or library | Mar 16 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, the sanctions do seem to be frustrating Pootie Poot, a lot. | Mar 16 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to read a book you should not need all this complexity | Mar 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for cooking recipes | Mar 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | or fridges with computers on them | Mar 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | what for? | Mar 16 12:45 |
| matey | and for websites you should just get a newspaper | Mar 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies use these gimmicks | Mar 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and those computers where they don't belong | Mar 16 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | The Russians are now willing to end the war, apparently, in exchange for Ukraine taking "neutrality" towards NATO. Other countries say sanctions won't go away unless Russia agrees to war reparations. | Mar 16 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | So either way, the Russians have lost the war. | Mar 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: no, news changes fast | Mar 16 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Their economy will die either due to sanctions or to war reparations. | Mar 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and newspapers get discarded the same day | Mar 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I said books | Mar 16 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | They get to choose. | Mar 16 12:46 |
| matey | theres a load of old books on the internet archive | Mar 16 12:46 |
| matey | you can read them on a screen | Mar 16 12:46 |
| matey | printing them would be a bit silly | Mar 16 12:46 |
| *psydroid2 grabs a webnewspaper to read | Mar 16 12:46 | |
| matey | wikipedia would be much nicer on eink imo | Mar 16 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | I think that the US and EU should just turn over the money it froze from Russia's forex accounts to Ukraine. | Mar 16 12:46 |
| matey | but im just talking about a monitor | Mar 16 12:47 |
| matey | not a self-contained ereader | Mar 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's also the footprint of connections inftra | Mar 16 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | They say the damage to property is roughly half a trillion dollars and we've seized about $400 billion I think. | Mar 16 12:47 |
| matey | i dont think you understand that im just talking about a monitor | Mar 16 12:47 |
| matey | if youre against computer monitors now youre sillier than i thought | Mar 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: the US economy ios collapsing | Mar 16 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | So if the Russians won't make installments on those damages, we should just refuse to ever pay them their reserves and pay them directly to Ukraine. | Mar 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | US media: LOOK OVER THA'!!! THE PUTINS !! | Mar 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: I said books | Mar 16 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | you said newspapers | Mar 16 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | then wikipedia | Mar 16 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is also the production cost | Mar 16 12:48 |
| matey | actually i said books as well | Mar 16 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard some media speculation that Russia might pay their foreign debts with Chinese Yuan. | Mar 16 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | a books can be passed on | Mar 16 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | That would be unlikely. | Mar 16 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | or borrowed from the library | Mar 16 12:49 |
| matey | the production cost of monitors? | Mar 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | of everything electronic | Mar 16 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | The Chinese economy actually has exports of things other than oil and gas, so their currency is still worth something. | Mar 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | cost to the planet | Mar 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/ | Mar 16 12:49 |
| matey | #techrights : 03/16/22 12:42 <matey> /me would love an eink monitor, doesnt care about the refresh rate | Mar 16 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | My Year as a Digital Vegan β Part IX β Hard Reckonings: The Nine Circles of E-Waste | Techrights | Mar 16 12:49 | |
| DaemonFC | The Ruble isn't really money, except internally, in Russia. | Mar 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: the dollar stagnates too | Mar 16 12:50 |
| matey | that was 7 minutes ago #techrights : 03/16/22 12:42 <matey> /me would love an eink monitor | Mar 16 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's only valuable to the extent that it's given value by reserve currencies that buy their oil and gas. | Mar 16 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/598257-saudi-arabia-considers-accepting-yuan-instead-of-dollar-for-oil | Mar 16 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Saudi Arabia reportedly considering accepting yuan instead of dollar for oil sales | TheHill | Mar 16 12:50 | |
| matey | then you started talking about books | Mar 16 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | They've been saying that since the 90s, Roy. | Mar 16 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | They never do it. | Mar 16 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | Saddam considered something similar and look what happened to him. | Mar 16 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | No more Saddam. | Mar 16 12:50 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: what about DRM on digital scans of books | Mar 16 12:51 |
| bnchs | or books | Mar 16 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'books' | Mar 16 12:51 |
| bnchs | internet archive: has a digital rental system (which is retarded) | Mar 16 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck reading them a year or a decade later | Mar 16 12:51 |
| bnchs | you have to "return" the book | Mar 16 12:51 |
| bnchs | after a week | Mar 16 12:51 |
| matey | i dont use their bullshit drm rentals | Mar 16 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | There's also a lot of ways to punish the Saudis for this without going to war with them. | Mar 16 12:51 |
| bnchs | its bullshit | Mar 16 12:52 |
| matey | the fsfs policy on this is sane | Mar 16 12:52 |
| matey | dont use drm | Mar 16 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | They like to buy weapons from us. They don't want a lot of extra oil capacity on the market competing with theirs. | Mar 16 12:52 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ yeah and people were suing IIRC saying that "rental" system is too much violates whatever law | Mar 16 12:52 |
| matey | now, once you cut out all the drm crap from the internet archive | Mar 16 12:52 |
| bnchs | its not like the books have limited copies | Mar 16 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | If we lift sanctions on other countries and start pumping more of our own oil, then Saudi Arabia is finished. | Mar 16 12:52 |
| matey | MOST of the books on there are drm free | Mar 16 12:52 |
| bnchs | like in a physical library | Mar 16 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | So there's a limit to how far those threats can go. | Mar 16 12:52 |
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| bnchs | but the internet archive wants to bring that back again | Mar 16 12:52 |
| matey | bring what back again | Mar 16 12:53 |
| bnchs | the reason why libraries make you return books | Mar 16 12:53 |
| bnchs | is because there are limited copies | Mar 16 12:53 |
| matey | even though im 100% against their drm titles | Mar 16 12:53 |
| bnchs | and you dont own it obviously | Mar 16 12:53 |
| matey | i dont think thats the motiviation for the internet archive really | Mar 16 12:53 |
| matey | their logic is, we can offer MORE books if we placate these drm arseholes | Mar 16 12:53 |
| matey | which is a position im against | Mar 16 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | The reason there's limited copies is because of the DRM and copyright laws. You can go find unlimited copies someone else has made on the Internet. | Mar 16 12:54 |
| bnchs | theres actually software that helps crack the adobe DRM on the books | Mar 16 12:54 |
| matey | but its not "hey drm is cool lets have more" | Mar 16 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, SurfShark was sued by the MPAA last year apparently. | Mar 16 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | May have something to do with NordVPN taking them over. | Mar 16 12:54 |
| matey | You can go find unlimited copies someone else has made on the Internet. <- which for books with drm is a better option | Mar 16 12:54 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: what about limited physical copiea | Mar 16 12:54 |
| matey | drm should never be on books | Mar 16 12:54 |
| matey | people who add drm to books should be launched into space | Mar 16 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | The way I understand it, most VPNs have no logs to turn over because their hosting providers can't actually see what you're doing. | Mar 16 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | Due to the encryption. | Mar 16 12:55 |
| bnchs | matey: theres software (i think on libgen) that cracks the DRM on the PDF files | Mar 16 12:55 |
| matey | good | Mar 16 12:55 |
| bnchs | libgen > internet archive | Mar 16 12:55 |
| matey | once again | Mar 16 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | The MPAA was demanding information from the service providers about SOCKS Proxy users, which it may well get because those are unencrypted. | Mar 16 12:55 |
| matey | i never recommend books on the internet archive with drm. | Mar 16 12:55 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 16 12:56 |
| matey | but there are countless things there that dont have it. | Mar 16 12:56 |
| bnchs | when i saw their rental system, i thought it was bullshit | Mar 16 12:56 |
| matey | also its easier to put your own book on internet archive than libgen | Mar 16 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | The public domain is growing again, finally. | Mar 16 12:56 |
| matey | i know, because i work with people who have dealt with libgen. | Mar 16 12:56 |
| bnchs | matey: libgen has anonymous upload | Mar 16 12:56 |
| bnchs | right? | Mar 16 12:56 |
| matey | im not sure its that simple. | Mar 16 12:57 |
| matey | or maybe this wasnt libgen, maybe it was someone else. | Mar 16 12:57 |
| matey | whats the closest thing to libgen? | Mar 16 12:57 |
| matey | because we did use libgen the first time. | Mar 16 12:57 |
| matey | libgen is the one that moved to russia for copyright reasons i think | Mar 16 12:58 |
| kingoffrance | <libgen.h> is where basename and dirname live :) | Mar 16 12:58 |
| bnchs | libgen has IPFS mirrors | Mar 16 12:58 |
| bnchs | and torrent mirrors | Mar 16 12:58 |
| matey | we had some issues with libgen or something nearly identical to it | Mar 16 12:58 |
| matey | which doesnt mean libgen isnt great | Mar 16 12:58 |
| bnchs | while internet archive sits on thousands of hard drives | Mar 16 12:58 |
| bnchs | with no way to download it all | Mar 16 12:58 |
| matey | /me sighs | Mar 16 12:59 |
| matey | i could just change my nick to not-the-ones-with-drm-ffs | Mar 16 12:59 |
| matey | thats probably too long actually | Mar 16 12:59 |
| bnchs | i uploaded a pdf to libgen | Mar 16 12:59 |
| bnchs | anonymously | Mar 16 13:00 |
| matey | just now? | Mar 16 13:00 |
| bnchs | no | Mar 16 13:00 |
| bnchs | but it was too easy | Mar 16 13:00 |
| matey | ill have another look | Mar 16 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/netflix-removals-government-censorship-takedown-1203496331/ | Mar 16 13:00 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: variety.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/netflix-removals-government-censorship-takedown-1203496331/ | Mar 16 13:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix Lists TV Shows, Movies Removed After Government Demands - Variety | Mar 16 13:00 | |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: yes | Mar 16 13:01 |
| bnchs | funny thing | Mar 16 13:01 |
| bnchs | some christian movie got banned in singapore | Mar 16 13:01 |
| bnchs | after government complain | Mar 16 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Germany bans Night of the Living Dead> | Mar 16 13:01 |
| matey | bnchs: opentrackr.orgt | Mar 16 13:01 |
| matey | .org | Mar 16 13:01 |
| matey | thats the one we were having trouble with | Mar 16 13:02 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 16 13:02 |
| matey | for some OTHER reason we tried going from libgen to opentrackr | Mar 16 13:02 |
| matey | but i couldnt tell you why | Mar 16 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | https://m.imdb.com/list/ls005738057/ | Mar 16 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.imdb.com | Banned in Germany (chronological order) - IMDb | Mar 16 13:02 | |
| matey | s/Living Dead/Long Knives/ fixed | Mar 16 13:03 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Mar 16 13:04 | |
| matey | some christian movie got banned in singapore <- maybe they were chewing gum in the movie | Mar 16 13:04 |
| matey | it sets a bad example | Mar 16 13:05 |
| bnchs | yea | Mar 16 13:05 |
| matey | if people start chewing gum they could start kicking ass | Mar 16 13:06 |
| matey | and that could lead to dancing | Mar 16 13:06 |
| bnchs | you cant have other religion movies in a "muslim" country | Mar 16 13:06 |
| bnchs | because its BAD | Mar 16 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/3/2022: KDEβs Okular Greenwashed and Microsoft Putting Ads in Applications | Techrights | Mar 16 13:09 | |
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| bnchs | windows in 2025: shows ads in startup screen | Mar 16 13:09 |
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| techrights-news | Education: Fedora Mentor Summit, EuroBSDCon, and Raspberry Pi Projects β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162613 | Mar 16 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Education: Fedora Mentor Summit, EuroBSDCon, and Raspberry Pi Projects | Tux Machines | Mar 16 13:10 | |
| matey | windows in 2035: sends them into your consciousness via the vagus nerve through the anal probe | Mar 16 13:10 |
| techrights-news | Todayβs ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄ Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162614 | Mar 16 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 16 13:10 | |
| matey | just stick it in your app! | Mar 16 13:10 |
| bnchs | windows user: for the last time, i dont have an anal probe!!!! | Mar 16 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do | Mar 16 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | you don't know yet :-) | Mar 16 13:11 |
| matey | they dont eat at mcdonalds or shop at walmart either | Mar 16 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:10] <bnchs> windows in 2030: unskippable video ad in startup | Mar 16 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and mining crypto at shutdown | Mar 16 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | please wait 5 minutes while we max upp your CPU, thanks ffor the understanding | Mar 16 13:12 |
| bnchs | more like crypto miner in intel ME | Mar 16 13:12 |
| bnchs | that mines even when your pc is off | Mar 16 13:12 |
| matey | "this is not your default operating system [x] show this message at startup" | Mar 16 13:12 |
| activelow | https://www.dw.com/en/intel-announces-multibillion-investment-plan-for-europe/a-61135478 | Mar 16 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel announces multibillion investment plan for Europe | News | DW | 15.03.2022 | Mar 16 13:12 | |
| activelow | 80billion | Mar 16 13:13 |
| *psydroid2 would be surprised if Intel ME and Windows still had any major market share in 2030 | Mar 16 13:13 | |
| matey | something to look forward to | Mar 16 13:13 |
| activelow | 1135478 | Mar 16 13:13 |
| activelow | https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-buy-us-f-35-stealth-fighters/a-61114350 | Mar 16 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Germany to buy US F-35 stealth fighters | News | DW | 14.03.2022 | Mar 16 13:14 | |
| matey | lets hope they remember to turn stealth off when they tie them down | Mar 16 13:14 |
| activelow | still confused, Eurofighter, equipped with MC68000 series electronics, was put into operation 2006 | Mar 16 13:14 |
| matey | otherwise they could be hard to find | Mar 16 13:14 |
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| activelow | wait a moment, ... maybe, manfucaturing and supply chain of this era, maybe it's "defunct" already? | Mar 16 13:15 |
| matey | stealth fighters are a major safety hazard because they have that big pointing thing on the nose | Mar 16 13:16 |
| matey | and you could just walk into it | Mar 16 13:16 |
| matey | maybe it's "defunct" already <- maybe it was a gift, like churchhills cognac | Mar 16 13:16 |
| matey | "to-buy" i mean they lawyers make them say that | Mar 16 13:17 |
| matey | tax purposes, the hague, etc | Mar 16 13:17 |
| activelow | yes, this seems to be it, given the TI calculator series with mc68000 isn't produced anymore either | Mar 16 13:17 |
| activelow | the latest TI calculators are equipped with ARM | Mar 16 13:18 |
| activelow | NASA had a similar problem with their space shuttle and i8086 series parts, which they couldn't source anymore | Mar 16 13:18 |
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| techrights-news | Range check elimination in loops in OpenJDKβs HotSpot JVM | Red Hat Developer β https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/16/range-check-elimination-loops-openjdks-hotspot-jvm | Mar 16 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Range check elimination in loops in OpenJDK's HotSpot JVM | Red Hat Developer | Mar 16 13:22 | |
| techrights-news | Stormworks: Build and Rescue massively improves gamepad support for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux β https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/stormworks-build-and-rescue-massively-improves-gamepad-support-for-steam-deck/ | Mar 16 13:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stormworks: Build and Rescue massively improves gamepad support for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Mar 16 13:23 | |
| techrights-news | Core Keeper is the latest indie hit with over 250,000 sales in one week | GamingOnLinux β https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/core-keeper-is-the-latest-indie-hit-with-over-25k-sales-in-one-week | Mar 16 13:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Core Keeper is the latest indie hit with over 250,000 sales in one week | GamingOnLinux | Mar 16 13:23 | |
| techrights-news | MacGuffin's Curse gets a HD upgrade along with GNU/Linux support | GamingOnLinux β https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/macguffins-curse-gets-a-hd-upgrade-along-with-linux-support | Mar 16 13:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MacGuffin's Curse gets a HD upgrade along with Linux support | GamingOnLinux | Mar 16 13:25 | |
| techrights-news | XeroLinux: A Beautiful Arch-based Linux With Excellent Customizability by Default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162236#comment-33076 | Mar 16 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: XeroLinux in 2022 | Tux Machines | Mar 16 13:38 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Stormworks: Build and Rescue, Core Keeper, MacGuffinβs Curse, and X4 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162615 | Mar 16 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stormworks: Build and Rescue, Core Keeper, MacGuffin's Curse, and X4 | Tux Machines | Mar 16 13:38 | |
| schestowitz | "Former Xamarin co-founder Miguel de Icaza is leaving Microsoft β Former Xamarin cofounder Miguel de Icaza is leaving Microsoft, the company he joined through acquisition just over six years ago." | Mar 16 13:39 |
| schestowitz | No actual investigation into it | Mar 16 13:39 |
| schestowitz | that's the depth you expect from podcast | Mar 16 13:39 |
| schestowitz | miguel says | Mar 16 13:39 |
| schestowitz | mary jo foley says | Mar 16 13:39 |
| schestowitz | that's it | Mar 16 13:39 |
| techrights-news | Being a "BIG" tech company and being a CRIMINAL tech company is not the same thing, but Microsoft is attempting to blur the differences. http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ | Mar 16 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law β Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and βSlush Fundsβ | Techrights | Mar 16 13:40 | |
| techrights-news | "This post will feature four outstanding contributors from the Australia and New Zealand regions, who have played diverse leadership and community roles in the Upstream Kubernetes project." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/03/16/meet-our-contributors-au-nz-ep-02/ | Mar 16 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Meet Our Contributors - APAC (Aus-NZ region) | Kubernetes | Mar 16 13:42 | |
| techrights-news | SiFive raises $175 million after selling OpenWave SoC design unit to Alphawave β https://linuxgizmos.com/sifive-raises-175-million-after-selling-openwave-soc-design-unit-to-alphawave/ | Mar 16 13:43 |
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| techrights-news | "Copyright is artificial scarcity. That sucks. That comes at a huge cost. Articifical scarcity enables poverty." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/bgg-copyright-thread | Mar 16 13:47 |
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| activelow | "Copyright is artificial scarcity" ... Author's rights aren't artificial. | Mar 16 13:59 |
| activelow | copyrights refer to capitalization of an author's work; which means infringement of copyright infringes author's rights | Mar 16 14:00 |
| kingoffrance | where does monetized debt fit into this? | Mar 16 14:03 |
| kingoffrance | that "right" to "make a living" is long gone | Mar 16 14:03 |
| kingoffrance | centuries too slow | Mar 16 14:03 |
| kingoffrance | like the bazaar and cathedral, that world no longer exists | Mar 16 14:03 |
| kingoffrance | gov does not respect this "right" anywhere at all | Mar 16 14:03 |
| kingoffrance | why is copyright special? | Mar 16 14:04 |
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| kingoffrance | as mincer would say | Mar 16 14:05 |
| kingoffrance | fancy words for regulatory capture | Mar 16 14:05 |
| kingoffrance | better way to say that: define "capitalization" | Mar 16 14:06 |
| kingoffrance | since it got redefined circa 1900 for america at least | Mar 16 14:07 |
| activelow | one distinction is "author's rights" cannot be transferred to anyone else, it is copyrights which can be transferred | Mar 16 14:07 |
| activelow | and it is possible to infringe author's rights even when copyright was transferred and not infringed, such as claiming authorship of anyone else work, which is plagiarism for example | Mar 16 14:08 |
| psymin | https://github.com/samizdapp/RFC1 | Mar 16 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - samizdapp/RFC1: a draft architecture | Mar 16 14:10 | |
| kingoffrance | sure, but define capitalization | Mar 16 14:12 |
| kingoffrance | tehre is no capital. it got redefined to mean credit | Mar 16 14:12 |
| activelow | kingoffrance: "capitalization", "commerce", to make money; meaning even if copright and license terms are complied with, author's rights may be infringed | Mar 16 14:12 |
| kingoffrance | yes, banks "make credit money" all day long | Mar 16 14:12 |
| kingoffrance | counterfeiters do too no help | Mar 16 14:12 |
| kingoffrance | why is "the right to be paid" a right? | Mar 16 14:13 |
| kingoffrance | is that like universal basic income? | Mar 16 14:13 |
| activelow | it's law, such as minimum wage for example | Mar 16 14:13 |
| kingoffrance | ok thank you :) | Mar 16 14:13 |
| activelow | although, minimum wage is agnostic towards the work of an author, so potentially a mountain of other laws applied besides | Mar 16 14:14 |
| activelow | such as anti-trust, competition laws, if any quality work was compensated (or none at all) far below "market price" | Mar 16 14:15 |
| kingoffrance | the distinction i would make is: who is contracting with an "author" for them to make a "work" ? | Mar 16 14:18 |
| kingoffrance | in the case of employment, it is voluntary (involuntary employment is called slavery...or draft maybe) | Mar 16 14:18 |
| kingoffrance | in the case of an author making a "work" ...who contracted with them that they deserve payment? | Mar 16 14:18 |
| activelow | with employment almost always copyrights are transferred to the company, and compensated with an employees salary | Mar 16 14:19 |
| kingoffrance | sure | Mar 16 14:19 |
| kingoffrance | s/deserve/are owed by law/ | Mar 16 14:20 |
| kingoffrance | "deserve's got nothing to do with it" -- clint eastwood movie | Mar 16 14:20 |
| activelow | yet, it's important, even if copyright was transferred, to a company for example, such company may not easily claim authorship, because author's rights cannot be transferred | Mar 16 14:21 |
| kingoffrance | do you have any good recommendations papers/etc. to read about these distinctions? | Mar 16 14:22 |
| activelow | meaning if, for example, if I designed and implemented some algorithm, and if a company claims instead they did it, this is a violation of *my* author's rights | Mar 16 14:22 |
| activelow | kingoffrance: german language | Mar 16 14:22 |
| kingoffrance | yes | Mar 16 14:22 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Mar 16 14:22 |
| MinceR | 16 110018 < DaemonFC> All Debian releases are basically LTS. | Mar 16 14:26 |
| MinceR | more like NTS | Mar 16 14:26 |
| MinceR | also, deadian "stable" is not stable | Mar 16 14:26 |
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| MinceR | 16 145926 < activelow> "Copyright is artificial scarcity" ... Author's rights aren't artificial. | Mar 16 14:28 |
| MinceR | scarcity of copies is | Mar 16 14:28 |
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| activelow | anyway, this is the suspicion i have, and german military reported it regularly: unavailable spare parts and supplies (sub-marines, aircraft etc.) | Mar 16 14:33 |
| activelow | and although Eurofighter as almost brand-new, put into operation year 2006, they cannot source required MC68000 series chips anymore, for example | Mar 16 14:34 |
| activelow | is | Mar 16 14:34 |
| activelow | now they say, F-35 aircraft shall be acquired, together with Intel dumping billions of shitcoins into EU | Mar 16 14:34 |
| activelow | however, Intel has a proven track-record of long-term reliability already, with missing spare parts for the NASA space shuttle | Mar 16 14:35 |
| activelow | officially, they say, it was only the Tornado jet which could carry USA nukes, however i think it isn't a huge challenge to attach any missile to Eurofighter, instead of acquisition of F-35 | Mar 16 14:36 |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/afternoon-meme-dump-22-memes-18.jpg | Mar 16 14:36 |
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| activelow | instead, they are distracting now, from the fact the Eurofighter is dys-functional, after few years of operation | Mar 16 14:37 |
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| activelow | Volkswagen/VW too reported lack of semiconductor supplies; 2+2=4 i would say | Mar 16 14:38 |
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| activelow | some newspaper articles from year 2018 confirm suppliers of Eurofighter are defunct, and only a few of the aircraft were operational | Mar 16 14:53 |
| activelow | which is remarkable, because order of *new* aircraft typically operating a lifetime of 40years or more were placed until year 2009, and few years later the suppliers are defunct already | Mar 16 14:54 |
| activelow | although i cannot confirm with absolute certainty, if it is related to Motorola issues (an aircraft with engineers which crash landed into the ocean, Malaysia Airlines MH-370) | Mar 16 14:56 |
| *kingoffrance sits at desk with coffee. people who make free copies of things are paying exactly what they think it is worth, which is how a market works. change my mind | Mar 16 15:13 | |
| kingoffrance | what is really being argued is who has the power to set a price. if we take "minimum wage" the "crime" is people voting "directly" rather than through "representatives" | Mar 16 15:25 |
| kingoffrance | *"minimum wage" versus deciding how much a "work" is worth | Mar 16 15:25 |
| kingoffrance | the "right" in question is the "right" to set a price | Mar 16 15:26 |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/mS3Y5Z-P0ALYIBmuESP0OEOkIY7cPTdSgOsITokWyL4.jpeg | Mar 16 15:26 |
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| kingoffrance | or, it is more of a procedural violation than anything else | Mar 16 15:29 |
| kingoffrance | maybe another way to say that is only formal votes are recognized :) | Mar 16 15:40 |
| techrights-news | Corporate, Microsoft-Connected Media Would Say Anything to Distract From Windows Holes, Exploits, and a High Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/omg-the-passwords/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/16/omg-the-passwords/ | Mar 16 15:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate, Microsoft-Connected Media Would Say Anything to Distract From Windows Holes, Exploits, and a High Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) | Techrights | Mar 16 15:56 | |
| techrights-news | "News of this finally broke in 2019 when someone on a music collecting forum claimed to have over 16 hours of unheard Radiohead OK Computer recordings in their possesion. They were hoping to sell these recordings or get offered a trade for other equally rare music, so to prove that they actually had these recordings" gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-04-05-minidiscs-hacked.gmi | Mar 16 15:59 |
| techrights-news | BillBC World Service - The Shutdown, Misinformation β https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct3hgq "India has been responsible for more shutdowns each year than any other country. Why?" | Mar 16 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | BBC World Service - The Shutdown, Misinformation | Mar 16 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag Chrome "vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/16/google-releases-security-updates-chrome | Mar 16 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISA | Mar 16 16:02 | |
| techrights-news | Apple #ProprietarySoftware "An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/16/apple-releases-security-updates-multiple-products | Mar 16 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Apple Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA | Mar 16 16:03 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/15/neighbor-cat-sneaking-into-house/ | Mar 16 16:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | People Are Sharing Funny Stories Of Their Neighbor's Cats Sneaking Into Their Home (15 Pics) | Mar 16 16:03 | |
| techrights-news | The WINDOWS Gamer Gardiner Bryant: hey, let's put Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware on the thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTVBqyvFCV8 | Mar 16 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UTVBqyvFCV8 | Mar 16 16:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Install Minecraft on your Steam Deck the EASY WAY. - Invidious | Mar 16 16:06 | |
| techrights-news | Flatpak App of the Week: Shotcut β Powerful and Versatile Video Editor β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162616 | Mar 16 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flatpak App of the Week: Shotcut β Powerful and Versatile Video Editor | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:06 | |
| techrights-news | The media keeps obsessing over long-patched bugs in Linux and even blames βLinuxβ for bad passwords; is the media simply trying to distract from the primary culprit, which has nothing to do with Linux? http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/omg-the-passwords/ | Mar 16 16:08 |
| techrights-news | Go 1.18 Arrives with 20% Improved Performance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162596#comment-33077 | Mar 16 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go 1.18 is released! - The Go Programming Language | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:10 | |
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| techrights-news | Jeff Bezos cheats on you like he cheated on his wife https://www.maketecheasier.com/ftc-investigated-amazon-prime/ | Mar 16 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | FTC Investigated Amazon for Deception with Prime Accounts - Make Tech Easier | Mar 16 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162617 | Mar 16 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | 10 Ways To Speed Up Firefox Browser in Linux Desktop β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162618 | Mar 16 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Ways To Speed Up Firefox Browser in Linux Desktop | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | Are There Any Linux Phones? β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162619 | Mar 16 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Are There Any Linux Phones? | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:17 | |
| techrights-news | 5 things Linux needs to seriously compete in the desktop market that you probably never considered β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162620 | Mar 16 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 things Linux needs to seriously compete in the desktop market that you probably never considered | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:20 | |
| techrights-news | Wind River Studio Linux Services Draws From Nearly Two Decades of Highly Customized Linux Focus and Expertise β https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/03/wind-river-studio-linux-services-draws-from-15-years-of-highly-customized-linux-focus-and-expertisetled/ | Mar 16 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.windriver.com | Wind River Studio Linux Services Draws From Nearly Two Decades of Highly Customized Linux Focus and Expertise | Mar 16 16:22 | |
| techrights-news | "So last week we mentioned that Stadia was going to introduce a solution to run Windows games unmodified on Linux, and not using Proton as Google was apparently building their own thing." https://boilingsteam.com/stadias-tech-to-run-windows-games-more-details-unveiled/ | Mar 16 16:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Stadia's Tech to Run Windows Games: More Details Unveiled - Boiling Steam | Mar 16 16:23 | |
| techrights-news | Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.4 RC 2 β https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-4-rc-2 | Mar 16 16:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.4 RC 2 | Mar 16 16:26 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu Has a Brand New Logo β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162621 | Mar 16 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Has a Brand New Logo | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:27 | |
| techrights-news | Arduino-compatible RPi CM4 carrier sells for $25 β https://linuxgizmos.com/arduino-compatible-rpi-cm4-carrier-sells-for-25/ | Mar 16 16:28 |
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| techrights-news | "Love your casual games? Lazy Galaxy 2 from Coldwild Games is out now with a GNU/Linux version and it's a wonderful idle / clicker game that also blends in some other strategy elements too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/lazy-galaxy-2-blends-together-an-idle-clicker-with-some-rts-elements-out-now | Mar 16 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lazy Galaxy 2 blends together an idle / clicker with some RTS elements out now | GamingOnLinux | Mar 16 16:29 | |
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| bnchs__ | windows emulator | Mar 16 16:30 |
| psydroid2 | windows destroyer | Mar 16 16:31 |
| bnchs__ | windows with ads | Mar 16 16:31 |
| bnchs__ | it's not like you paid for a license | Mar 16 16:31 |
| bnchs__ | to get ads | Mar 16 16:31 |
| bnchs__ | need to get a little money on the side | Mar 16 16:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | can winew run them? | Mar 16 16:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | *wine | Mar 16 16:32 |
| bnchs__ | you know what i mean | Mar 16 16:32 |
| psydroid2 | where can I get such a subscription? | Mar 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need Linux compatibility | Mar 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | or people won't switch | Mar 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | "no ads, no switch" | Mar 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | forum threats will open | Mar 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I get no ads, Linux sucks!!" | Mar 16 16:32 |
| bnchs__ | why are there no ads in my file manager | Mar 16 16:32 |
| bnchs__ | why are there no ads in my login screen | Mar 16 16:32 |
| bnchs__ | why are there no ads in my start menu | Mar 16 16:32 |
| bnchs__ | LINUX SUCKS | Mar 16 16:32 |
| psydroid2 | Linux has no business model | Mar 16 16:33 |
| psydroid2 | we need ads | Mar 16 16:33 |
| bnchs__ | ubuntu's display manager will start depending on chromium | Mar 16 16:33 |
| psydroid2 | the dot in Linux.com | Mar 16 16:34 |
| bnchs__ | for the ADS you know | Mar 16 16:34 |
| psydroid2 | brought to you by spamnil ad services | Mar 16 16:34 |
| techrights-news | Once again this complete nonsense wherein Microsoft-funded sites blame "Linux" for password choices https://www.techradar.com/news/linux-and-raspberry-pi-devices-are-proving-a-major-security-weak-link see http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/omg-the-passwords/ | Mar 16 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux and Raspberry Pi devices are proving a major security weak link | TechRadar | Mar 16 16:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate, Microsoft-Connected Media Would Say Anything to Distract From Windows Holes, Exploits, and a High Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) | Techrights | Mar 16 16:34 | |
| psydroid2 | I'm waiting for the chromium desktop environment | Mar 16 16:35 |
| bnchs__ | >blaming the OS for you choosing a shit password | Mar 16 16:35 |
| bnchs__ | NO WHY IS LINUX ALLOWING ME TO CHOOSE A SHIT PASSWORD | Mar 16 16:35 |
| bnchs__ | linux BAD | Mar 16 16:35 |
| MinceR | 16 173323 < psydroid2> Linux has no business model | Mar 16 16:35 |
| MinceR | it has one now | Mar 16 16:35 |
| bnchs__ | is the micro$oft funded sites really that retarded | Mar 16 16:36 |
| MinceR | the Linux-Destroying Foundation's members pay the Linux-Destroying Foundation to make Linux worse so it's easier to compete against | Mar 16 16:36 |
| bnchs__ | the headline doesn't mention passswords | Mar 16 16:36 |
| bnchs__ | it makes as if linux shouldnt be in raspberry pi because it's bad | Mar 16 16:36 |
| techrights-news | Anything to distract from absolutely appalling news about Microsoft holes and exploits, in media that's partly controlled by Microsoft while distorting words like "back doors" and their meaning https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/new-b1txor20-linux-botnet-uses-dns.html | Mar 16 16:37 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: thehackernews.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/new-b1txor20-linux-botnet-uses-dns.html | Mar 16 16:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | New "B1txor20" Linux Botnet Uses DNS Tunnel and Exploits Log4J Flaw | Mar 16 16:37 | |
| psydroid2 | Windows on a raspberry pi would be absolute garbage | Mar 16 16:37 |
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| bnchs__ | psydroid2, it wouldn't even be possible | Mar 16 16:38 |
| psydroid2 | just like it is everywhere else | Mar 16 16:38 |
| bnchs__ | windows consumes RAM like a fatass | Mar 16 16:38 |
| bnchs__ | i'm pretty sure it would be a matter of seconds before the raspberry pi turns into fire | Mar 16 16:38 |
| psydroid2 | https://www.worproject.ml/ | Mar 16 16:40 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: worproject.ml | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.worproject.ml/ | Mar 16 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worproject.ml | Home | Windows on Raspberry | Mar 16 16:40 | |
| psydroid2 | for masochists by masochists | Mar 16 16:40 |
| bnchs__ | yes | Mar 16 16:40 |
| techrights-news | Stable Kernels: 5.16.15, 5.15.29, 5.10.106, 5.4.185, 4.19.235, 4.14.272, and 4.9.307 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162622 | Mar 16 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.16.15, 5.15.29, 5.10.106, 5.4.185, 4.19.235, 4.14.272, and 4.9.307 | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:41 | |
| bnchs__ | geez i would like windows to consume 90% of my RAM and heat up my raspberry pi | Mar 16 16:41 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162623 | Mar 16 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:41 | |
| bnchs__ | and make my programs run alot more slower | Mar 16 16:41 |
| MinceR | at least it would get along nicely with the MICROS~1 malware running on the GPU | Mar 16 16:42 |
| MinceR | except, of course, for the fact that MICROS~1 products are rarely compatible even with themselves | Mar 16 16:42 |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162624 | Mar 16 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:43 | |
| bnchs__ | windows running on phones would cause more global warming | Mar 16 16:43 |
| techrights-news | Games: Stadia, Godot, and Lazy Galaxy 2 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162625 | Mar 16 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stadia, Godot, and Lazy Galaxy 2 | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:43 | |
| bnchs__ | than bill gates' greenwashing shit | Mar 16 16:43 |
| MinceR | only if they managed to get enough people to buy and use them | Mar 16 16:44 |
| MinceR | so far it didn't work too well :> | Mar 16 16:44 |
| techrights-news | A new look for the Circle of Friends http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162621#comment-33079 | Mar 16 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Has a Brand New Logo | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:45 | |
| MinceR | yay, just what it needed | Mar 16 16:45 |
| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi for home https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-for-home/ | Mar 16 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.com | Raspberry Pi for home - Raspberry Pi | Mar 16 16:45 | |
| MinceR | https://abstrusegoose.com/536 | Mar 16 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abstrusegoose.com | Abstruse Goose | 100 percent effective | Mar 16 16:46 | |
| psydroid2 | the QuartzPro64 looks nice and all, but I would probably go for the much cheaper Rock5 instead | Mar 16 16:46 |
| techrights-news | Public Knowledge Welcomes Bill Protecting the Publicβs Right to Repair Electronic Devices - Public Knowledge β https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-bill-protecting-the-publics-right-to-repair-electronic-devices/ | Mar 16 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Welcomes Bill Protecting the Publicβs Right to Repair Electronic Devices - Public Knowledge | Mar 16 16:46 | |
| psydroid2 | and if you don't run bloated software the Quartz64 should offer decent enough performance | Mar 16 16:46 |
| techrights-news | IR Sensor With Arduino: wiring and code explained β https://peppe8o.com/ir-sensor-with-arduino-wiring-and-code-explained/ | Mar 16 16:46 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: peppe8o.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/ir-sensor-with-arduino-wiring-and-code-explained/ | Mar 16 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | IR Sensor With Arduino: wiring and code explained | Mar 16 16:46 | |
| psydroid2 | Windows will never be anything than a pleb on that kind of hardware | Mar 16 16:47 |
| bnchs__ | GNU/Linux will run on any kind of hardware | Mar 16 16:47 |
| psydroid2 | it barely even runs on the "high-end" hardware from 2016 I have here | Mar 16 16:47 |
| bnchs__ | Windows is like that picky eater that only runs with specific amount of TPM and shit | Mar 16 16:47 |
| bnchs__ | and a newer CPU | Mar 16 16:47 |
| techrights-news | Disappointing to see medevel (Turkish blogger, focusing on Free software) selling out and posting webspam (SEO/garbage/spam) and more so lately, e.g. moments ago https://medevel.com/7-ways-to-optimize-market-research/ | Mar 16 16:48 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: medevel.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/7-ways-to-optimize-market-research/ | Mar 16 16:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 7 Ways to Optimize Market Research | Mar 16 16:48 | |
| techrights-news | Hot Dog Linux, for people who really do love their vintage desktops β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162626 | Mar 16 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hot Dog Linux, for people who really do love their vintage desktops | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:53 | |
| techrights-news | KODI 19.4 Matrix Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162200#comment-33080 | Mar 16 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kodi 19.4 Released with Various Fixes! Install it via Ubuntu PPA | Tux Machines | Mar 16 16:54 | |
| techrights-news | FOSSlife promotes snakeoil and garbage from ZDNt https://www.fosslife.org/top-security-keys-2fa see http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/ | Mar 16 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Top Security Keys for 2FA | Mar 16 16:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | Techrights | Mar 16 16:55 | |
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| techrights-news | Gadgets are not security and aren't lifestyle. They're just gadgets. Don't worship things for their brands and their physical existence (tangible) or their price (perceived value). Some of the best things do not cost anything. | Mar 16 16:57 |
| techrights-news | Fake Shemp History: How Jeff Garlin Became the New Bela Lugosi β https://tedium.co/2022/03/16/jeff-garlin-fake-shemp-history/ | Mar 16 16:58 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: tedium.co | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/03/16/jeff-garlin-fake-shemp-history/ | Mar 16 16:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Fake Shemp History: How Jeff Garlin Became the New Bela Lugosi | Mar 16 16:58 | |
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| techrights-news | ICBM this afternoon: "We're updating copr packages to the new versions which will bring new features and bugfixes. This outage affects the copr-frontend and copr-backend"... ICBM Fedora gradually migrated to Amazon as it cannot trust its own "CLOWN" http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/aws-fedoraproject/ | Mar 16 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Looks Like Red Hatβs (IBM) Fedora Project May be βOutsourcedβ to Amazonβs Datacentres | Techrights | Mar 16 16:59 | |
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| techrights-news | ICBM Red Hat is rapidly rebranding everything as "clown", even old things that predate containers and VMs https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/shift-stack-vhostuser-ports | Mar 16 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Shift-on-Stack with Vhostuser Ports | Mar 16 17:00 | |
| techrights-news | Very few cars run a distro from ICBM, so Red Hat is basically playing catch-up here (other GNU/Linux systems dominate cars) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/whats-new-automotive-software-2022 | Mar 16 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Whatβs new for automotive software in 2022? | Mar 16 17:01 | |
| bnchs | "clown"s should have never existed | Mar 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | they always did | Mar 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but were named differently | Mar 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not many companies got all EXCITED about OUTSOURCING | Mar 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a marketing trick | Mar 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | "if you are not outsource, YOU ARE FALLING BEHIND !!!!!!' | Mar 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | *outsourcing | Mar 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | "get your CLOWN certification today" | Mar 16 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | (become outsourcing professional1) | Mar 16 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | also edit your CV/resume | Mar 16 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | to say "ops" and "clown" and stuff... | Mar 16 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make yourself "upskilled" | Mar 16 17:07 |
| bnchs | professional at outsourcing your data | Mar 16 17:07 |
| bnchs | to someone else's computer | Mar 16 17:07 |
| bnchs | if they said that instead of "clown professional", then less people would hire them | Mar 16 17:07 |
| psydroid9 | what are IT jobs even these days? | Mar 16 17:12 |
| MinceR | mostly bullshit | Mar 16 17:12 |
| bnchs | it's more like hiring people to make your infrasturcture more insecure | Mar 16 17:15 |
| bnchs | like "clown" pros | Mar 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | what MinceR said | Mar 16 17:15 |
| bnchs | and windows monkeys | Mar 16 17:15 |
| techrights-news | xkcd: Consensus Time β https://xkcd.com/2594/ δ· #xkcd | Mar 16 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Consensus Time | Mar 16 17:15 | |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: xkcd.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2594/ | Mar 16 17:15 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: and outsourcing | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | like helping orgs embrace gmail | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | forget about PGP or any encrypton | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's "for geeks" | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | security is "Google promises..." | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes they need some "good data loss" | Mar 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "good breach" | Mar 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | to remind them where they TRULY stand | Mar 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and sooner or later that does happen | Mar 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | (of course they then point a finger in the wrong direction) | Mar 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Microsoft blames "Iran" and "China" and "Russia"... because Windows is not secure | Mar 16 17:20 |
| techrights-news | 5 Best Linux-Libre Distributions for Better Security β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162627 | Mar 16 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Best Linux-Libre Distributions for Better Security | Tux Machines | Mar 16 17:20 | |
| techrights-news | NetBSD: let's take surveillance capitalism cash from Gulag https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/the_netbsd_foundation_is_a | Mar 16 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.netbsd.org | NetBSD Blog | Mar 16 17:21 | |
| techrights-news | Distro of GNU/Linux which supports Ukraine https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-foL80k-GV4 | Mar 16 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Zorin OS 16.1 Core - Invidious | Mar 16 17:23 | |
| psydroid2 | who is going to mentor them? | Mar 16 17:23 |
| psydroid2 | Benny Siegert? | Mar 16 17:23 |
| psydroid2 | https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/speaker/benny_siegert/ | Mar 16 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2020 - Benny Siegert | Mar 16 17:23 | |
| SomeH4x0r | > supports Ukraine | no, it is fucking paid GNU/Linux distribution afaik, fuck money | Mar 16 17:24 |
| SomeH4x0r | it needs to be obtained from third-party mirror | Mar 16 17:24 |
| techrights-news | "Looking for the last, best system monitor you could ever imagine for the GNU/Linux desktop? Jack Wallen is certain he's found that tool in System Monitoring Center." https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-best-system-monitors-for-linux-desktop/ Wallen is principled. We like him. | Mar 16 17:24 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-best-system-monitors-for-linux-desktop/ | Mar 16 17:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install one of the best system monitors for the Linux desktop | TechRepublic | Mar 16 17:24 | |
| techrights-news | Enterprise Linux Security Episode 21 - Nvidiaβs [apparently Windows] Breach - Invidious β https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1LloL1qaZMs | Mar 16 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Enterprise Linux Security Episode 21 - Dirty Pipe & Nvidia's Breach - Invidious | Mar 16 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | "Everyone knows that an application exit code should change based on the success, error or maybe warnings that happened during execution." https://abbbi.github.io//logging/ Michael Ablassmeier ought to leave Microsoft GitHub. Debian Devs don't belong in such a malicious proprietary platform in the NSA's bag. | Mar 16 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abbbi.github.io | python logging messages and exit codes β Michael Ablassmeier β .. | Mar 16 17:29 | |
| techrights-news | The new Board of Directors has started its two year term - The Document Foundation Blog β https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/16/new-bod-two-year-term/ | Mar 16 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | The new Board of Directors has started its two year term - The Document Foundation Blog | Mar 16 17:30 | |
| techrights-news | A look at whatβs new in GNOME 42 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162628 | Mar 16 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A look at what's new in GNOME 42 | Tux Machines | Mar 16 17:31 | |
| techrights-news | SafeZone is not safe https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/breaking-rsa-through-insufficiently-random-primes.html | Mar 16 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Breaking RSA through Insufficiently Random Primes - Schneier on Security | Mar 16 17:33 | |
| MinceR | https://thecodinglove.com/when-our-sprint-is-close-to-end-and-i-am-late-on-my-tasks | Mar 16 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecodinglove.com | When our sprint is close to end and I am late on my tasks | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes | Mar 16 17:33 | |
| techrights-news | This Extension Adds Network Speed as Desktop Widget in Ubuntu 21.10 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162629 | Mar 16 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Extension Adds Network Speed as Desktop Widget in Ubuntu 21.10 | Tux Machines | Mar 16 17:34 | |
| techrights-news | Introducing the AdmissionPolicy https://www.kubewarden.io/blog/2022/03/admission-policy/ | Mar 16 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kubewarden.io | Introducing the AdmissionPolicy | Mar 16 17:36 | |
| techrights-news | 56% of Techrights code is Perl gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/sloc.gmi | Mar 16 17:37 |
| techrights-news | "When we announced Librem AweSIM our goal was simple: provide a cellular service that protected your privacy. Cellular providers in the US are creating unified customer identifiers so they can βidentify users across multiple devices and serve them relevant advertising." https://puri.sm/posts/announcing-librem-simple-an-affordable-cellular-plan-that-protects-your-privacy/ | Mar 16 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Announcing Librem SIMple: An Affordable Cellular Plan that Protects Your Privacy β Purism | Mar 16 17:40 | |
| techrights-news | "In this episode, Whitney is joined by Matthew Ehret to discuss how the Fabian Society and other groups developed a model for βpenetratingβ governments throughout the West and beyond long before the World Economic Forumβs Young Global Leaders program came into existence." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/03/podcasts/fabians-and-fascists-with-matthew-ehret/ | Mar 16 17:42 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: unlimitedhangout.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/03/podcasts/fabians-and-fascists-with-matthew-ehret/ | Mar 16 17:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unlimitedhangout.com | Fabians and Fascists with Matthew Ehret | Mar 16 17:42 | |
| techrights-news | Wall Street keeps bankrolling dangerous surveillance tech. Congress must act - Access Now β https://www.accessnow.org/cellebrite-ipo/ | Mar 16 17:43 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: accessnow.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/cellebrite-ipo/ | Mar 16 17:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Wall Street keeps bankrolling dangerous surveillance tech. Congress must act - Access Now | Mar 16 17:43 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162630 | Mar 16 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 16 17:43 | |
| techrights-news | "For DTail 4, logging has been completely rewritten. The new package name is "internal/io/dlog". I rewrote the logging because DTail is a special case here: There are logs processed by DTail, there are logs produced by the DTail server itself, there are logs produced by a DTail client itself" gemini://foo.zone/gemfeed/2022-03-06-the-release-of-dtail-4.0.0.gmi | Mar 16 17:45 |
| techrights-news | Lagrange Android Alpha 6: "There is a new Android build of Lagrange that is based on the desktop v1.11 release." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_android-alpha6.gmi | Mar 16 17:47 |
| techrights-news | Open Hardware: Librem, Arduino, and RISC-V β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162631 | Mar 16 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Librem, Arduino, and RISC-V | Tux Machines | Mar 16 17:47 | |
| techrights-news | Lagrange v1.11: Multiple Windows: "While most of v1.10 was focused on the mobile variant, this release is very much centered on the desktop. The split view mode that was added back in v1.4 is now finally expanded to also support creation of additional windows." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_lagrange-1.11.gmi | Mar 16 17:48 |
| techrights-news | "We had been running some RasPi's in class for some collaborative local-access projects between a group of us, and I decided to purchase one for some experiments at home. These were really my first steps into a different relationship with software towards a creative hands-on approach through free software" gemini://subphase.xyz/users/flow/gemlog/30-raspi.gmi | Mar 16 17:50 |
| techrights-news | "Gemlog discussions have a certain stress-free nature. You can just make a post and not worry about any replies, or deal with them at your leisure after a week or a month. It's a slow, disengaged form of communication, amendable to an intermittently-offline way of life." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-02_re-gemlog-responses.gmi | Mar 16 17:52 |
| techrights-news | Weaponisation of computer science sucks. "What sort of future are we working towards? I don't like where this is going. I guess we all believe in total war, now." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-02-27_Programmer_at_arms | Mar 16 17:53 |
| techrights-news | "When I think about digital or computational cultures in some near-distant futures, I can't figure out what that could or *should* look like. Does the extension of digitality drive a more commonly widespread software/coding literacy in our society? If so, what does that achieve?" gemini://subphase.xyz/users/flow/gemlog/28-computerfuture.gmi | Mar 16 17:55 |
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| techrights-news | "My first goes at making a UI were in database packages like dBase. You could make menus, dialogs and other clickable things on an 80 by 25 text-only DOS screen. It seemed like a magical way to make software features discoverable and fun. Ooh, look, my popup has a drop shadow!" gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2021-11-20.gmi | Mar 16 17:56 |
| techrights-news | "A small number of people owning cars isn't that big of a deal but when most of the industrialized world has built itself around car ownership, suddenly it's this huge system that is self-perpetuating. Cities sprawl around roads." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-02-21-scaling.gmi | Mar 16 17:57 |
| techrights-news | "So I have a lot of sympathy for the concept of decentralized finance. The simplest way to summarize my politics is "anarchist" and people coming together to find ways to organize and exchange resources outside of a government issued currency, as supported by the private financial sector's special status for capitalist states, has a lot of appeal to me." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-02-25-defi.gmi | Mar 16 17:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββββββ βββββ ββββββ βββββ ββ ββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 36.65 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 36.80β swarm size (avg): 277.84 β² | Mar 16 17:58 |
| techrights-news | 'Iβm jumping directly to Offpunk 0.9 as a release candidate of Offpunk 1.0, which should be released next week. While there are many improvements that could be made, I believe Offpunk has reached some maturity with mainly bug fixes and small improvements since the 0.4 release." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-03-05-offpunk09.gmi | Mar 16 18:02 |
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| techrights-news | Links 16/3/2022: Ubuntuβs New Logo and Godot 3.4.4 RC 2 | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/godot-3-4-4-rc-2/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/16/godot-3-4-4-rc-2/ | Mar 16 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/3/2022: Ubuntuβs New Logo and Godot 3.4.4 RC 2 | Techrights | Mar 16 18:13 | |
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| techrights-news | Red Hat Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162632 | Mar 16 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 16 18:14 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄ Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162633 | Mar 16 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 16 18:14 | |
| techrights-news | Remember: CLOWNFLARE is NOT free. They will charge more and more. Or alter limits. GULGATUBE is NOT free. Same for VIMEO. All of them can change costs (AWS/Clown is all about fee hikes with VENDOR LOCK-IN), threshold, visibility/tiering at ANY TIME. And you do NOT get to decline those changes. The only solution is to AVOID them RIGHT FROM THE START. | Mar 16 18:23 |
| techrights-news | "A few days ago (2022-03-14) was pi-day to celebrate the number pi (β3.14). Some celebrate pi-day by making videos or similar content about this number. As I already found a few mathematicians on gemini, I was sure I would at least see one article about pi popping up on that day." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/03/16/no-pi-day/ | Mar 16 18:27 |
| techrights-news | Midnight Pub in Geminispace reminds me a lot of OpenDiary in the 1990s in the sense that people write about their personal life in a sincere fashion. | Mar 16 18:29 |
| MinceR | https://thecodinglove.com/when-my-code-is-broken-but-sill-manages-to-do-the-work | Mar 16 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecodinglove.com | When my code is broken but sill manages to do the work | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes | Mar 16 18:48 | |
| techrights-news | Worst COVID-19 Week in More Than 2 Months in the United Kingdom! http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/16/worst-covid-19-week-in-more-than-2-months-in-the-united-kingdom/ | Mar 16 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Β» Blog Archive Β» Worst COVID-19 Week in More Than 2 Months in the United Kingdom! | Mar 16 18:49 | |
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| techrights-news | Ubuntu Linux gets a new logo http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162621#comment-33082 | Mar 16 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Has a Brand New Logo | Tux Machines | Mar 16 18:51 | |
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| bnchs | clownflare is free | Mar 16 18:59 |
| bnchs | because you pay with your user's data | Mar 16 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://framatube.org/w/eHqvH5WPknnfXyQzKKN3cY | Mar 16 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framatube.org | Welcome address by the FSF - Sunday - Framatube | Mar 16 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/an-overview-of-threat-assessments-and-practical-steps-to-improve-privacy/ | Mar 16 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | An Overview of Threat Assessments and Practical Steps to Improve Privacy β GNU MediaGoblin | Mar 16 19:01 | |
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| bnchs | wow | Mar 16 19:14 |
| bnchs | libreplanet began? | Mar 16 19:14 |
| techrights-news | Video: Alice Monsen on How She Uses Free/Libre Software | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/alice-monsen-freesw-talk/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/16/alice-monsen-freesw-talk/ | Mar 16 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Alice Monsen on How She Uses Free/Libre Software | Techrights | Mar 16 19:14 | |
| schestowitz-TR | no, these are from last year | Mar 16 19:14 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162634 | Mar 16 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 16 19:15 | |
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| techrights-news | Can a triangle of tank tracks outperform omni wheels? | Arduino Blog β https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/16/can-a-triangle-of-tank-tracks-outperform-omni-wheels/ | Mar 16 19:21 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: arduino.cc | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/16/can-a-triangle-of-tank-tracks-outperform-omni-wheels/ | Mar 16 19:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Can a triangle of tank tracks outperform omni wheels? | Arduino Blog | Mar 16 19:21 | |
| techrights-news | NordLocker is proprietary software and thus you should not trust what it does https://www.techrepublic.com/article/nordlocker-vs-veracrypt/ | Mar 16 19:24 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/nordlocker-vs-veracrypt/ | Mar 16 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | NordLocker vs VeraCrypt | Encryption Software Comparison | Mar 16 19:24 | |
| techrights-news | "I got the vaccine and kinda feel safe and sick at the same time." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/843 | Mar 16 19:29 |
| techrights-news | βHereβs how you can get all your day-to-day computing done with free software. Alice Monsen, 11, has given multiple talks at technical conferences and will go over more than 10 programs that will replace proprietary with free software.β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/alice-monsen-freesw-talk/ | Mar 16 19:30 |
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| techrights-news | How Cobalt Strike Became a Favorite Tool of Hackers | eSecurityPlanet β https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/how-cobalt-strike-became-a-favorite-tool-of-hackers/ | Mar 16 19:36 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: esecurityplanet.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/how-cobalt-strike-became-a-favorite-tool-of-hackers/ | Mar 16 19:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Cobalt Strike Became a Favorite Tool of Hackers | eSecurityPlanet | Mar 16 19:36 | |
| techrights-news | Candidates for the 2022 Debian project leader election β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162635 | Mar 16 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Candidates for the 2022 Debian project leader election | Tux Machines | Mar 16 19:36 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/15/creative-design/ | Mar 16 19:37 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/15/creative-design/ | Mar 16 19:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | People Are Sharing Creative Designs They Encountered In Everyday Life (50 Pics) | Mar 16 19:37 | |
| techrights-news | There are AT LEAST 500 IRC networks that are SIGNIFICANT. IRC is not dead. https://netsplit.de/networks/ | Mar 16 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Mar 16 19:42 | |
| SomeH4x0r | define "significant" | Mar 16 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | >50 users online | Mar 16 19:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | do services count? | Mar 16 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | services add up | Mar 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not to the point of being a majority of 50 | Mar 16 19:43 |
| SomeH4x0r | also, there are some bridgebots which make a different connection for each user on the other side | Mar 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | we used to have a matric bridge | Mar 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | in freenode | Mar 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | those people rarely said anything | Mar 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | just lurking with a bouncer | Mar 16 19:43 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 16 19:44 |
| bnchs | but don't use a discord bridge | Mar 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | at this moment #techrights at freenode has 17 users online | Mar 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody ever says anything | Mar 16 19:44 |
| MinceR | mastix bridge | Mar 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | same in libre chat, which isn't even official at all | Mar 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | people can set up irc netowkr | Mar 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | fill them up with users and channels, but if nobody says anything, there's zero value to these | Mar 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just eat up energy/bandwidth | Mar 16 19:45 |
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| XFaCE | https://hotdoglinux.com/ | Mar 16 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hotdoglinux.com | HOT DOG Linux | Mar 16 19:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Pepsi is apparently suing six farmers in India for $150,000 each for growing the type of potato used in Lay's potato chips. | Mar 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | These sorts of GMO lawsuits are quite common in the United States. Monsanto was even caught deliberately contaminating fields with their seeds and then suing farmers for damages. | Mar 16 19:57 |
| psydroid2 | I hope Pepsi's CEO sets foot in India | Mar 16 19:58 |
| psydroid2 | and that someone shoots him | Mar 16 19:58 |
| psydroid2 | problem solved | Mar 16 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | Bill Gates is behind a lot of these GMO crops. | Mar 16 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, so do we solve the droughts or plant corn that's 8% more resistant to droughts, where you have to buy patents every year? | Mar 16 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Windows mindset: "To complete setup, restart Linux. You can do this by right-clicking terminal, and then clicking "Shut down Linux". Now all you have to do is install some apps!" | Mar 16 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | Even if you lose the crop. | Mar 16 19:59 |
| schestowitz | https://flatpak.org/setup/Chrome%20OS | Mar 16 19:59 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: flatpak.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://flatpak.org/setup/Chrome%20OS | Mar 16 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flatpak.org | Flatpakβthe future of application distribution | Mar 16 19:59 | |
| SomeH4x0r | Future? | Mar 16 20:00 |
| SomeH4x0r | fuck such future | Mar 16 20:00 |
| SomeH4x0r | hope a bomb drops | Mar 16 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | I know the farmers around here license software from IBM that's designed to predict weather patterns. | Mar 16 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | It claims it reduces crop losses by advising them about what to plant and when. | Mar 16 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | They bought the weather channel. | Mar 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Now it can't even predict the weather an hour from now. | Mar 16 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | :D | Mar 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | here's a suggestion | Mar 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | drop ICBM | Mar 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and predict long winter | Mar 16 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | There's little, if any, science behind weather prediction other than law of averages. | Mar 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | ... | Mar 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) profit! | Mar 16 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | But those averages are moving. | Mar 16 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | So you have to anticipate things like carbon emissions and what that adds to the mix each year. | Mar 16 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am installing two new gemini clients | Mar 16 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | will review them in video | Mar 16 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | And it's not like you can move crops out of the way of tornadoes. | Mar 16 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Hurricanes have major impacts on US rice production. We don't produce a lot of rice, but what we do produce mostly comes from Louisiana. | Mar 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | And they are getting hit with hurricanes the likes of which wouldn't have been possible in 1980. | Mar 16 20:05 |
| ebin | speaking of weather and gemini. i have recently started a new capsule gemini://weather.ix.tc/ | Mar 16 20:05 |
| ebin | it's a simple capsule with worldwide 5 forecasts | Mar 16 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, They don't want you to see how they grow crops. | Mar 16 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | In Huntington County, Indiana, the corn fields are literally a small dirt road about 12 feet wide between the edge of the corn and the county dump. | Mar 16 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | For a small fee, they let you go in and dump just about anything you want there. | Mar 16 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | So you can imagine what gets into the soil, and then moves over and contaminates the corn. | Mar 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Someone complained that most of Illinois outside of Chicago is power plants and crops. And I said, "You say that like it's a bad thing. Where the hell is the power and food supposed to come from?". | Mar 16 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's usually not economical to put utility scale power generation or crops in a heavily populated area. | Mar 16 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | There's been some exhibits at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago about possible urban farming in skyscrapers. | Mar 16 20:10 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββββββ ββββββββββ ββ ββββ β ββββββ ββββ β avg(k/sec) 25.00 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 31.11β swarm size (avg): 277.86 β² | Mar 16 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | At first I thought "That's crazy, why would they build a skyscraper to be a giant greenhouse when we have a bunch of farmland?". | Mar 16 20:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Then I realized that after COVID, we've got 6 Sears Towers worth of empty offices. | Mar 16 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | If someone were to be smart enough to "defrag" the offices that are not going to close and convert the empty buildings to urban greenhouses, imagine all of the food they could produce. | Mar 16 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Instead we have like, entire skyscrapers now where half the offices are empty and the rest are some shitty law firms or something that exist for "everybody v. everybody" lawsuits that produce nothing. | Mar 16 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I learned pretty fast that there's barely a difference in the quality of legal representation between a lawyer that wants $1,500 and one that wants $4,500, except the $4,500 one probably has an office in Chicago with a nice coffee machine. | Mar 16 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's all about impressing clients. It's client management. | Mar 16 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | bbiab | Mar 16 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | recording | Mar 16 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Urban farming isn't ridiculous. If the real estate industry were smarter, they'd stop trying to block it. | Mar 16 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Because otherwise, they have all of these half-empty skyscrapers that are not generating enough money for the square footage. | Mar 16 20:15 |
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| chicksahoy | lawsuits are fun | Mar 16 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/willie-wilson-to-giveaway-200k-worth-of-gas-on-thursday/ | Mar 16 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Willie Wilson to give away $200K worth of gas on Thursday | WGN-TV | Mar 16 20:21 | |
| chicksahoy | im in the legal profession | Mar 16 20:21 |
| chicksahoy | i sue businesses that discriminate against trans people | Mar 16 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote: "And after the first tank, how is anyone else supposed to get some gas? | Mar 16 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | If the Democrats control Washington much longer (much less Springfield), we'll need to redenominate the currency. 100 old dollars per new dollar." | Mar 16 20:21 |
| bnchs | hello? | Mar 16 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Good thing the Supreme Court doesn't seem to be buying it. | Mar 16 20:25 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, yes free money | Mar 16 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe you'll have to get honest work after they cut that to ribbons. | Mar 16 20:25 |
| bnchs | thats why you're a lawyer right | Mar 16 20:25 |
| chicksahoy | not quite a lawyer | Mar 16 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | You know, there's a million cake shops. | Mar 16 20:26 |
| chicksahoy | paralegals in ontario can represent clients as if they were a lawyer | Mar 16 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | The men in skirts go into the one they know a Christian will refuse to make a cake for them, and then they sue. | Mar 16 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | And the whole thing is a get rich quick scam. | Mar 16 20:26 |
| chicksahoy | DaemonFC: not true | Mar 16 20:27 |
| chicksahoy | you're being transphobic | Mar 16 20:27 |
| bnchs | also there's some problem | Mar 16 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | In Illinois, two gay men went to a bed and breakfast and demanded to have their wedding reception there. | Mar 16 20:27 |
| bnchs | have you ever met a transgender person | Mar 16 20:27 |
| bnchs | that sued a place simply because they mispronounced | Mar 16 20:27 |
| chicksahoy | bnchs: i am transgender | Mar 16 20:27 |
| bnchs | "pronoun" | Mar 16 20:27 |
| bnchs | mis pronoun | Mar 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | When they were told no, they filed a discrimination complaint and walked away with almost $90,000 the state took from the business owner. | Mar 16 20:28 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, ok | Mar 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | There was obviously nowhere else in the state to have a wedding reception... | Mar 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's sleazy is what it is. | Mar 16 20:28 |
| chicksahoy | bnchs: i dont sue over misgendering, i usually just correct them | Mar 16 20:28 |
| chicksahoy | if they refuse after being corrected, thats grounds for a lawsuit | Mar 16 20:28 |
| bnchs | yeah well | Mar 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | "I reserve the right to refuse your business for any reason." should be the law of the land. | Mar 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | And I say that as a gay man. | Mar 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | And if I get turned away, so what? | Mar 16 20:28 |
| chicksahoy | the ontario human rights laws are pretty clear | Mar 16 20:29 |
| bnchs | it's pretty common to "misgender" | Mar 16 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | You think I want to go to a doctor who hates gay people and only serves me because they're afraid of a lawsuit? | Mar 16 20:29 |
| bnchs | because just from appearance | Mar 16 20:29 |
| bnchs | i can either tell you that you're a guy | Mar 16 20:29 |
| bnchs | or a girl | Mar 16 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | What might they do to harm me? | Mar 16 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Will they "not notice" a tumor? | Mar 16 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Even if they're not malicious, they're probably at least an idiot who doesn't believe in evolution. | Mar 16 20:29 |
| bnchs | and i can definitely not tell other "non-binary" genders | Mar 16 20:29 |
| chicksahoy | i usually have a quick chat with management and the problem goes away | Mar 16 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Passing anti-discrimination laws doesn't get rid of discrimination and it doesn't get rid of bigots. | Mar 16 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | They can say they declined your business for 100 other reasons, all of which are legal. | Mar 16 20:30 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, well thats great | Mar 16 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | An apartment declined to rent to us and we're an interracial gay married couple and he's an immigrant. | Mar 16 20:31 |
| bnchs | usually people would throw a fit after being misgendered | Mar 16 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | They kept coming up with reasons. | Mar 16 20:31 |
| bnchs | or deadnamed | Mar 16 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Making "mistakes" that led to our credit report being declined over and over again. | Mar 16 20:31 |
| chicksahoy | i used to throw fits but im 5 years into my transition now, im a lot more chill about it | Mar 16 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Then called the police and lied and said I threatened them when I got annoyed and said they were doing this on purpose. | Mar 16 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I complained to the Attorney General's office, and nothing happened. | Mar 16 20:32 |
| chicksahoy | im not gonna sue roy because daemonfc is transphobic | Mar 16 20:32 |
| bnchs | daemonfc is racist aswell | Mar 16 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Could I sue? Maybe. Would I win? I'd have to prove they hated us for being gay, married, interracial, or him being an immigrant. | Mar 16 20:32 |
| chicksahoy | lol | Mar 16 20:32 |
| bnchs | just the usual | Mar 16 20:32 |
| bnchs | and i don't care | Mar 16 20:32 |
| chicksahoy | DaemonFC: proof is key | Mar 16 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'm very racist. I married an immigrant that's not white. | Mar 16 20:33 |
| bnchs | more like everyday you bitch about black people | Mar 16 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, out of the past 5 relationships (defined by at least dating someone for a while) I've been in 1 was white. | Mar 16 20:33 |
| chicksahoy | a black person could sue roy because daemonfc talks smack about them | Mar 16 20:34 |
| chicksahoy | roy even keeps chat logs | Mar 16 20:34 |
| bnchs | lol | Mar 16 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Out of my sex partners? I'd estimate that about maybe 30% of them were non-Hispanic white even though I spent most of my life living in a state where 92% of the population was non-Hispanic White. | Mar 16 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Those are some real good statistics for accusing me of racism. | Mar 16 20:34 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, theres something called section 230 | Mar 16 20:34 |
| chicksahoy | section 230? | Mar 16 20:34 |
| bnchs | "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." | Mar 16 20:35 |
| chicksahoy | oh that doesnt apply in ontario | Mar 16 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody can sue me for saying I lock my car doors when I see black teenagers coming. | Mar 16 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's not illegal. | Mar 16 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's not even grounds for a lawsuit. | Mar 16 20:35 |
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| chicksahoy | ill correct myself, a black person in ontario could sue | Mar 16 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it is, but you'd lose immediately. | Mar 16 20:36 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, depends on which state this server is hosted in | Mar 16 20:36 |
| bnchs | and whether section 230 applies | Mar 16 20:36 |
| chicksahoy | that doesnt matter | Mar 16 20:36 |
| bnchs | or am i wrong? | Mar 16 20:36 |
| chicksahoy | if i sue in my jurisdiction (ontario) then my laws apply | Mar 16 20:36 |
| chicksahoy | does Roy run this irc server? | Mar 16 20:37 |
| bnchs | no it's hosted in UK i think | Mar 16 20:37 |
| bnchs | yes he does | Mar 16 20:37 |
| bnchs | but i think he's not the one who hosts it | Mar 16 20:37 |
| chicksahoy | the irc server is available to people in ontario | Mar 16 20:37 |
| bnchs | and? | Mar 16 20:37 |
| chicksahoy | doesnt matter where its hosted, the tribunal doesnt care | Mar 16 20:37 |
| bnchs | no thats dumb | Mar 16 20:38 |
| chicksahoy | a service thats available to people in ontario has to follow these laws | Mar 16 20:38 |
| bnchs | you can't drag your country's laws into a server hosted in another country | Mar 16 20:38 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, or else? | Mar 16 20:38 |
| chicksahoy | buddy, i sued plenty of fish and they're american | Mar 16 20:38 |
| bnchs | roy is british | Mar 16 20:38 |
| bnchs | he lives in UK | Mar 16 20:39 |
| chicksahoy | the lawsuit would be in ontario | Mar 16 20:39 |
| chicksahoy | i dont have to file it where they live | Mar 16 20:39 |
| bnchs | i dont know but that seems dumb | Mar 16 20:39 |
| bnchs | as long as the server follows the country of origin's laws | Mar 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | <chicksahoy> if i sue in my jurisdiction (ontario) then my laws apply | Mar 16 20:39 |
| bnchs | there's nothing illegal | Mar 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | You're wronge. | Mar 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | *wrong | Mar 16 20:40 |
| chicksahoy | im not wrong | Mar 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | You'd have to sue me where I live. | Mar 16 20:40 |
| bnchs | ^ | Mar 16 20:40 |
| bnchs | you can't drag another state's laws into another | Mar 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Canadian judgments don't mean anything to me. | Mar 16 20:40 |
| chicksahoy | thats for a lawsuit, but the HRTO is a tribunal | Mar 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Sue all you want. | Mar 16 20:40 |
| bnchs | and i'm pretty sure you would be extremely lucky | Mar 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | You can't serve a judgment from a foreign court onto me and garnish anything. | Mar 16 20:40 |
| bnchs | if your case doesn't get thrown out | Mar 16 20:41 |
| bnchs | heres an example | Mar 16 20:41 |
| chicksahoy | i've litigated against american companies and all that matters is whether or not their service is available to people in ontario | Mar 16 20:41 |
| bnchs | if you sue from zimbabwen | Mar 16 20:42 |
| bnchs | to america | Mar 16 20:42 |
| bnchs | does zimbabwen laws apply? | Mar 16 20:42 |
| bnchs | does their shitty laws apply to the case | Mar 16 20:42 |
| bnchs | and will the company go bankrupt in fact | Mar 16 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have any assets in Ontario. | Mar 16 20:42 |
| chicksahoy | it depends on whether or not zimbabwe has laws that don't care about jurisdiction | Mar 16 20:42 |
| chicksahoy | ill agree on one thing, collecting a judgement against an american would be hard | Mar 16 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | No Illinois court is going to enforce a judgment from an Ontario court on an Illinois resident. | Mar 16 20:43 |
| bnchs | then how about this | Mar 16 20:43 |
| bnchs | roy k-lines everyone from ontario | Mar 16 20:43 |
| bnchs | no lawsuit | Mar 16 20:44 |
| chicksahoy | fair enough, he could do that | Mar 16 20:44 |
| chicksahoy | might be a good idea | Mar 16 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | Even if you're in the US and suing someone else in the US, you have to sue them in their jurisdiction, usually, unless it's a federal lawsuit. | Mar 16 20:44 |
| bnchs | but he's not gonna do that | Mar 16 20:44 |
| bnchs | because he's in the UK | Mar 16 20:44 |
| chicksahoy | i could get a court order to block a service in ontario tho | Mar 16 20:44 |
| bnchs | and his site and this irc server is british | Mar 16 20:44 |
| bnchs | not american | Mar 16 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | Even then, you can file to have the case removed from a federal court in their jurisdiction to yours to make the lawsuit harder for them to tend to. | Mar 16 20:45 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, nice internet freedom you guys got | Mar 16 20:45 |
| chicksahoy | freedom to discriminate isn't legal | Mar 16 20:45 |
| bnchs | is 4chan blocked in ontario | Mar 16 20:45 |
| chicksahoy | no | Mar 16 20:45 |
| bnchs | why isn't it | Mar 16 20:46 |
| chicksahoy | nobody sued 4chan | Mar 16 20:46 |
| bnchs | there's users discriminating against races in 4chan | Mar 16 20:46 |
| chicksahoy | i could sue facebook for not doing anything about transphobic comments but it would take years and i dont care enough | Mar 16 20:46 |
| bnchs | because all you gonna get | Mar 16 20:47 |
| bnchs | is websites banning ontario | Mar 16 20:47 |
| bnchs | and you're gonna be known as the party shitter | Mar 16 20:47 |
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| chicksahoy | only because enforcing a judgement would be hard | Mar 16 20:47 |
| bnchs | the guy who ruins fun | Mar 16 20:47 |
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| chicksahoy | the girl who ruins illegal fun | Mar 16 20:47 |
| ebin | weβre gonna play the sue me, sue you blues | Mar 16 20:48 |
| bnchs | no because you sue an entire site just for one user | Mar 16 20:48 |
| bnchs | who isn't doing any harm | Mar 16 20:48 |
| chicksahoy | https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h19 | Mar 16 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Law Document English View | Ontario.ca | Mar 16 20:48 | |
| chicksahoy | 1 Every person has a right to equal treatment with respect to services, goods and facilities, without discrimination because of race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, age, marital status, family status or disability. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.19, s. 1; 1999, c. 6, s. 28 (1); 2001, c. 32, s. 27 (1); 2005, c. | Mar 16 20:48 |
| chicksahoy | 5, s. 32 (1); 2012, c. 7, s. 1. | Mar 16 20:48 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 16 20:49 |
| bnchs | but this is a irc server | Mar 16 20:49 |
| bnchs | messages here don't harm you | Mar 16 20:49 |
| bnchs | they're just a bunch of bytes | Mar 16 20:49 |
| chicksahoy | thats why i dont sue roy, i dont care | Mar 16 20:49 |
| chicksahoy | technically someone could, thats all im saying | Mar 16 20:49 |
| bnchs | "equal treatment with respect to services, goods and facilities" | Mar 16 20:49 |
| bnchs | does me saying i hate black people | Mar 16 20:50 |
| chicksahoy | im not black | Mar 16 20:50 |
| bnchs | prohibit you from "goods and facilities" | Mar 16 20:50 |
| bnchs | prohibit black people from "goods and facilites" | Mar 16 20:50 |
| chicksahoy | services | Mar 16 20:50 |
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| bnchs | yes | Mar 16 20:50 |
| bnchs | what services | Mar 16 20:50 |
| chicksahoy | providing an irc server is a service | Mar 16 20:51 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 16 20:51 |
| chicksahoy | 9 No person shall infringe or do, directly or indirectly, anything that infringes a right under this Part. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.19, s. 9. | Mar 16 20:51 |
| bnchs | but i don't k-line you because you're transgender | Mar 16 20:51 |
| bnchs | theres a difference | Mar 16 20:51 |
| bnchs | from being mocked | Mar 16 20:51 |
| bnchs | and being klined | Mar 16 20:51 |
| chicksahoy | being mocked is considered harassment under the code | Mar 16 20:52 |
| bnchs | yes but does it prohibit you from services? | Mar 16 20:52 |
| chicksahoy | its harassment while using the service | Mar 16 20:53 |
| chicksahoy | the service provider has a duty to prevent all that | Mar 16 20:53 |
| bnchs | does it prohibit you from services? | Mar 16 20:54 |
| chicksahoy | no | Mar 16 20:54 |
| bnchs | then how does it count | Mar 16 20:54 |
| chicksahoy | because there was harassment while using the service | Mar 16 20:54 |
| chicksahoy | a service provider has a duty to make sure its users dont do that | Mar 16 20:55 |
| bnchs | you can say that about every website | Mar 16 20:55 |
| chicksahoy | exactly, i can | Mar 16 20:55 |
| bnchs | then how does the law count | Mar 16 20:55 |
| chicksahoy | thats why i was able to sue plenty of fish for the content of its users | Mar 16 20:55 |
| bnchs | have you only sued american companies | Mar 16 20:55 |
| chicksahoy | i've sued one american company | Mar 16 20:55 |
| bnchs | well this is a british server | Mar 16 20:56 |
| chicksahoy | also, its not for a lot of money | Mar 16 20:56 |
| bnchs | again | Mar 16 20:56 |
| chicksahoy | most of the time you only get a judgement for $5000 | Mar 16 20:56 |
| bnchs | i'm pretty sure ontario laws dont apply | Mar 16 20:56 |
| bnchs | in british | Mar 16 20:56 |
| chicksahoy | these laws do | Mar 16 20:56 |
| bnchs | can you cite a reference about that? | Mar 16 20:56 |
| chicksahoy | are you legally trained? | Mar 16 20:57 |
| bnchs | no | Mar 16 20:57 |
| bnchs | but i'm pretty sure american laws | Mar 16 20:57 |
| bnchs | don't apply in british laws | Mar 16 20:57 |
| bnchs | websites outsource their servers to a country with permissive laws | Mar 16 20:58 |
| bnchs | because of that | Mar 16 20:58 |
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| MinceR | https://thecodinglove.com/when-one-of-our-continuous-delivery-scripts-doesnt-work-anymore | Mar 16 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecodinglove.com | When one of our continuous delivery scripts doesnβt work anymore | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes | Mar 16 20:58 | |
| chicksahoy | if what you were saying is true, companies in canada would just put their servers outside canada and be immune to our laws | Mar 16 20:58 |
| chicksahoy | https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/code_grounds/gender_identity | Mar 16 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ohrc.on.ca | Gender identity and gender expression | Ontario Human Rights Commission | Mar 16 20:59 | |
| bnchs | techrights is not american? | Mar 16 20:59 |
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| chicksahoy | it doesn't fucking matter where the service is if its available to people in ontario | Mar 16 20:59 |
| bnchs | yes well | Mar 16 21:00 |
| bnchs | that seems stupid again | Mar 16 21:00 |
| chicksahoy | maybe to you | Mar 16 21:00 |
| bnchs | i don't know what kind of state you guys have | Mar 16 21:00 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, ok maybe sue kiwi farms | Mar 16 21:00 |
| bnchs | they discriminate against transgender and black people everyday | Mar 16 21:01 |
| bnchs | and they're an american LLC | Mar 16 21:01 |
| chicksahoy | im not touching kiwi farms | Mar 16 21:01 |
| bnchs | kiwi farms got sued many times | Mar 16 21:02 |
| bnchs | and most of the cases were dismissed because section 230 | Mar 16 21:02 |
| chicksahoy | technically i could go after them but then they would have my name and their members would likely stalk me | Mar 16 21:02 |
| chicksahoy | i think it would be better to approach them and ask them to make their site unavailable in ontario, canada | Mar 16 21:03 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 16 21:04 |
| bnchs | and he will likely post your email | Mar 16 21:04 |
| chicksahoy | i dont want to get stalked for $5000 | Mar 16 21:04 |
| bnchs | publicly | Mar 16 21:04 |
| chicksahoy | i could use an anonymous email provider like protonmail | Mar 16 21:05 |
| bnchs | well ok | Mar 16 21:05 |
| chicksahoy | if i actually sued them they'd likely post my name and address | Mar 16 21:05 |
| chicksahoy | its not worth it | Mar 16 21:05 |
| chicksahoy | i see what they do to transgender people | Mar 16 21:05 |
| chicksahoy | i'd probably even get my own forum there | Mar 16 21:06 |
| bnchs | anyway i still like to see daemonfc bitch about black people | Mar 16 21:06 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, they'll find out every bit about you | Mar 16 21:06 |
| chicksahoy | that just makes the channel look bad | Mar 16 21:06 |
| chicksahoy | i saw roy discipline daemonfc earlier today | Mar 16 21:06 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 16 21:07 |
| chicksahoy | ill give you another example | Mar 16 21:08 |
| chicksahoy | Mar 16 21:08 | |
| chicksahoy | https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/opc-actions-and-decisions/investigations/investigations-into-businesses/2019/pipeda-2019-002/ | Mar 16 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.priv.gc.ca | PIPEDA Findings #2019-002: Joint investigation of Facebook, Inc. by the Privacy Commissioner of Canada and the Information and Privacy Commissioner for British Columbia - Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada | Mar 16 21:08 | |
| bnchs | thats the privacy commissioner | Mar 16 21:08 |
| chicksahoy | PIPEDA is a canadian law tho | Mar 16 21:08 |
| bnchs | chicksahoy, well what i like about people being racist and shit, is that they're execrising their freedom of speech | Mar 16 21:09 |
| chicksahoy | freedom of speech isn't absolute | Mar 16 21:09 |
| bnchs | i don't like their opinion | Mar 16 21:09 |
| chicksahoy | theres always some law that gets in the way of your "fun" | Mar 16 21:09 |
| bnchs | yeah well | Mar 16 21:10 |
| bnchs | the thing is nobody should care about "hate speech" | Mar 16 21:10 |
| bnchs | as long as they don't discriminate people against services and goods | Mar 16 21:11 |
| bnchs | and shit | Mar 16 21:11 |
| bnchs | rather than just a bunch of bytes rendered on a screen | Mar 16 21:11 |
| bnchs | anyway gn | Mar 16 21:12 |
| chicksahoy | gn | Mar 16 21:14 |
| chicksahoy | https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/gender-identity-and-gender-expression-brochure | Mar 16 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ohrc.on.ca | Gender identity and gender expression (brochure) | Ontario Human Rights Commission | Mar 16 21:16 | |
| chicksahoy | Harassment is a form of discrimination. It can include sexually explicit or other inappropriate comments, questions, jokes, name-calling, images, email and social media, transphobic, homophobic or other bullying, sexual advances, touching and other unwelcome and ongoing behaviour that insults, demeans, harms or threatens a person in some way. Assault or other violent behaviour is also a criminal | Mar 16 21:17 |
| chicksahoy | matter. Trans people and other persons can experience harassing behaviour because of their gender identity or expression (gender-based harassment) and/or their sex (sexual harassment). | Mar 16 21:17 |
| bnchs | wait "jokes"? | Mar 16 21:18 |
| bnchs | you mean i can't make jokes about trans? | Mar 16 21:18 |
| chicksahoy | correct | Mar 16 21:18 |
| bnchs | there goes dark humor | Mar 16 21:18 |
| MinceR | all jokes are offensive | Mar 16 21:18 |
| MinceR | SJWs are enemies of all humor | Mar 16 21:18 |
| chicksahoy | if i had my own law firm it would be called "Social Justice Warriors" | Mar 16 21:19 |
| bnchs | i like dark humor though | Mar 16 21:19 |
| bnchs | and "offensive" jokes | Mar 16 21:19 |
| bnchs | because they're really funny | Mar 16 21:19 |
| MinceR | maybe someone will try to cancel you for it one day | Mar 16 21:19 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] IBM: FSF Bad, Microsoft Good | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/meme-ibm-fsf-bad-microsoft-good/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/16/meme-ibm-fsf-bad-microsoft-good/ | Mar 16 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IBM: FSF Bad, Microsoft Good | Techrights | Mar 16 21:21 | |
| chicksahoy | Microsoft is trash | Mar 16 21:21 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162636 | Mar 16 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 16 21:26 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation is a political party https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/statement-against-texas-discrimination/ | Mar 16 21:29 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-π£ Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/statement-against-texas-discrimination/ | Mar 16 21:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | STATEMENT AGAINST TEXAS DISCRIMINATION - Linux Foundation | Mar 16 21:29 | |
| techrights-news | #gitlab = nationalism. First racism against Persian, now Russian. Are they hoping for financial turnaround (they operate at a loss) by the "too big to fail" route? https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/672 | Mar 16 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | Wartime Roundtable | Mar 16 21:29 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation... SOOOO... woke http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ | Mar 16 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its βSupport for the Black Communityβ | Techrights | Mar 16 21:29 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/15/lake-county-sheriffs-canine-tracks-down-bites-suspect-who-tried-stealing-catalytic-converters-in-beach-park/ | Mar 16 21:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Lake County sheriff's canine tracks down, bites suspect who tried stealing catalytic converters in Beach Park | Mar 16 21:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Good dog! | Mar 16 21:30 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17091515 | Mar 16 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ffrqock6n2jz.jpg created on 2017-09-15 07:05:09.280573 | Mar 16 21:30 | |
| techrights-news | It is worth noting that signing on behalf of the Linux Foundation right now is a full time (100%) Microsoft employee. Linux? No. Windows Foundation. | Mar 16 21:31 |
| bnchs | linux foundation | Mar 16 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'linux' | Mar 16 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | run by Microsoft | Mar 16 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | nontechnical person | Mar 16 21:32 |
| mjg59_ | (not run by Microsoft) | Mar 16 21:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | working for Microsoft | Mar 16 21:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF= infiltrated | Mar 16 21:33 |
| bnchs | absolutely no contributions | Mar 16 21:33 |
| bnchs | other than having their name in a USB root hub module | Mar 16 21:33 |
| bnchs | which was because some "company" took the dummy ID (0000:0000) | Mar 16 21:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the mission is almost fully accomplished by now | Mar 16 21:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux... by name only | Mar 16 21:33 |
| bnchs | just remember that one opensuse developer | Mar 16 21:33 |
| mjg59_ | No contributions other than funding a lot of development work | Mar 16 21:33 |
| bnchs | who thought giving the linux foundation name to the USB root hub | Mar 16 21:33 |
| techrights-news | Alpine 3.15.1 released β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162637 | Mar 16 21:33 |
| bnchs | because 0000:0000 was taken | Mar 16 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine 3.15.1 released | Tux Machines | Mar 16 21:34 | |
| bnchs | in 2009 | Mar 16 21:34 |
| bnchs | or something | Mar 16 21:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see we have people in this IRC network whose principal contribution in Microsoft boot-licking | Mar 16 21:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's OK, I'm not surprised there | Mar 16 21:34 |
| mjg59_ | The LF is a corporate funded entity that doesn't care about community beyond what increases their ability to rake in money | Mar 16 21:35 |
| mjg59_ | But that doesn't mean they've contributed nothing | Mar 16 21:35 |
| techrights-news | Steven Vaughan-Nichols has been reduced to writing obligatory SPAM for his sponsor, basically peddling a diploma mill https://www.zdnet.com/education/bootcamps/linux-foundation-and-cncf-launch-cloud-native-developer-bootcamp/ | Mar 16 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation and CNCF launch Cloud-Native Developer Bootcamp | ZDNet | Mar 16 21:35 | |
| MinceR | they pretended to care, took money from individuals, took over Linux, then kicked out the individual members | Mar 16 21:36 |
| bnchs | mjg59_, what did they contribute | Mar 16 21:36 |
| bnchs | other than giving little money to kernel development | Mar 16 21:36 |
| bnchs | peanuts | Mar 16 21:36 |
| chicksahoy | don't they pay Linus's salary? | Mar 16 21:36 |
| mjg59_ | Yes | Mar 16 21:37 |
| mjg59_ | They sponsored CUPS development for years | Mar 16 21:37 |
| techrights-news | My wife on Linux Foundation (seconds ago). "They should be ashamed using the word "Linux"... they have NOTHING to do with Linux" | Mar 16 21:37 |
| mjg59_ | They've contributed funding to many projects | Mar 16 21:37 |
| MinceR | they paid for the development of a kernelspace SMB server that nobody wanted | Mar 16 21:37 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah that's somewhat bewildering | Mar 16 21:38 |
| MinceR | what's actually bewildering to me is that kernel hackers just let all this happen | Mar 16 21:38 |
| chicksahoy | that might be for ZFS | Mar 16 21:38 |
| chicksahoy | on solaris, ZFS has access to a kernelspace SMB server | Mar 16 21:38 |
| bnchs | hosting a server on the kernel | Mar 16 21:39 |
| bnchs | what could POSSIBLY go wrong? | Mar 16 21:39 |
| chicksahoy | it made sense for solaris | Mar 16 21:39 |
| chicksahoy | zfs sharesmb=on | Mar 16 21:39 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: It's already done for NFS | Mar 16 21:39 |
| mjg59_ | We've been using kNFS for about 20 years? | Mar 16 21:39 |
| MinceR | at least NFS isn't a toy protocol like SMB/CIFS is | Mar 16 21:40 |
| bnchs | i thought SMB is microsoft property | Mar 16 21:40 |
| MinceR | it kind of is | Mar 16 21:41 |
| MinceR | someone else came up with it, then MICROS~1 took over it | Mar 16 21:41 |
| mjg59_ | The SMB spec is public now, though it wasn't for a long time | Mar 16 21:41 |
| chicksahoy | thanks to EU law right | Mar 16 21:42 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft: | Mar 16 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) we are a nice company | Mar 16 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) we broke the law | Mar 16 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) we were found guilty | Mar 16 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) we take years to actually obey orders | Mar 16 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | see (1)\ | Mar 16 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft = nice company!! | Mar 16 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | Epstein. Nice guy. Went to prison to do the time. | Mar 16 21:49 |
| techrights-news | Do not for a second think that GitHub and GitLab are inclusive. They implement RACIST policies for the US government. Free software is inclusive. GitLab and GitHub are proprietary and racist. http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ | Mar 16 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights | Mar 16 21:51 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162638 | Mar 16 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 16 21:51 | |
| techrights-news | Valve Wonβt Support Windows On Steam Deck - Invidious β https://yewtu.be/watch?v=z_zWswQTHO8 δ· | Mar 16 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Valve Won't Support Windows On Steam Deck - Invidious | Mar 16 21:52 | |
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| techrights-news | "The Hand of Glory, a point and click adventure from Madit Entertainment / Daring Touch has released an official GNU/Linux build. With it now available, the game is on a 55% discount until March 26, a good time to show support for another indie developer." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/the-hand-of-glory-adventure-game-gets-an-official-linux-port | Mar 16 21:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Hand of Glory adventure game gets an official Linux port | GamingOnLinux | Mar 16 21:53 | |
| techrights-news | The Device Divide is Hurting Americans. Hereβs How We Solve It. - Public Knowledge β https://publicknowledge.org/the-device-divide-is-hurting-americans-heres-how-we-solve-it/ for starters, QUIT striving to make EVERYTHING "digital". It already harms many things, inc. elections (need paper trial). | Mar 16 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | The Device Divide is Hurting Americans. Hereβs How We Solve It. - Public Knowledge | Mar 16 21:54 | |
| AdmFubar | they're cutting their arms off? https://www.windowscentral.com/arm-will-cut-15-its-workers-following-failed-acquisition-nvidia | Mar 16 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Arm will cut up to 15% of its workers following failed acquisition by NVIDIA, says report | Windows Central | Mar 16 21:54 | |
| techrights-news | When you toss too many things into a kernel https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/researcher-uncover-dangerous-linux-netfilter-bug | Mar 16 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworldcanada.com | Researcher Uncover Dangerous Linux Netfilter Bug - IT World Canada | Mar 16 21:55 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't get the practicality of accepting Yuan as payment for oil. | Mar 16 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: good | Mar 16 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | less production and fewer sales | Mar 16 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | reuse, recycle | Mar 16 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | There's still a Dollar Peg that the Chinese are intent on maintaining for now. | Mar 16 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | And I doubt it would go away soon. | Mar 16 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that the percentage share of world reserve currencies will move further away from the Euro. | Mar 16 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | There's not much of a real economy there. It's "service" economy crap with 40% youth unemployment in most of the Eurozone. | Mar 16 21:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββββ ββββ βββββ ββββ ββββ ββ ββββββββ ββ β β avg(k/sec) 24.36 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 52.56β swarm size (avg): 277.89 β² | Mar 16 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | It generally inherited its marketshare from the French and German currencies before it and hasn't budged a lot since. | Mar 16 21:59 |
| techrights-news | Zorin OS 16.1 Released with a New Kernel For Better Hardware Compatibility http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33085 | Mar 16 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines | Mar 16 21:59 | |
| techrights-news | "Those of you in-the-know are well aware that Zink has always had a crippling addiction to seamless cubemaps. Specifically, Vulkan doesnβt support non-seamless cubemaps since nobody wants those anymore, but this is the default mode of sampling for OpenGL." https://www.supergoodcode.com/cubism/ | Mar 16 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Cubism β Mike Blumenkrantz β Super. Good. Code. | Mar 16 22:00 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22031568 | Mar 16 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ij4c93yvvhm81.jpg created on 2022-03-15 22:09:48.638766 | Mar 16 22:01 | |
| techrights-news | Mozilla Performance Blog: Performance Sheriff Newsletter (January 2022) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/03/16/performance-sheriff-newsletter-january-2022/ | Mar 16 22:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (January 2022) β Mozilla Performance | Mar 16 22:03 | |
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| techrights-news | IBM (or ICBM as we increasingly call it) isnβt fighting for Software Freedom; heck, sometimes it actively helps Microsoft and Microsoftβs proprietary software agenda http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/meme-ibm-fsf-bad-microsoft-good/ | Mar 16 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IBM: FSF Bad, Microsoft Good | Techrights | Mar 16 22:06 | |
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| chicksahoy | ICBM lol | Mar 16 22:08 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR | the mission is almost fully accomplished by now | Linux... by name only | Mar 16 22:09 |
| matey | almost | Mar 16 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | the stance or [psoition is | Mar 16 22:09 |
| matey | we can still watch it flail | Mar 16 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | as per their site | Mar 16 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are not limited to Linux anymore | Mar 16 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are not openly pro-Windows, yet... | Mar 16 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | That statement was composed for LF bya a former Microsoft employee | Mar 16 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | JPerlow | Mar 16 22:10 |
| matey | ibrepe is like that too | Mar 16 22:10 |
| matey | its not limited to free software | Mar 16 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are promoting rivals of Linux | Mar 16 22:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but mstill use "Linux" in their name | Mar 16 22:11 |
| matey | first linux co-opted gnu | Mar 16 22:11 |
| matey | now lf co-opts linux | Mar 16 22:11 |
| matey | then microsoft co-opts lf. its like russian nesting dolls of bullshit | Mar 16 22:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they say LF now | Mar 16 22:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | not "Linux" | Mar 16 22:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | everything becomes "LF" | Mar 16 22:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Linux F*ed" | Mar 16 22:12 |
| matey | linus was a sellout, open source eats their own | Mar 16 22:12 |
| matey | he wasnt the worst sellout, thats why they got him | Mar 16 22:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | osi is mirosoft now | Mar 16 22:12 |
| matey | theres always one with less integrity | Mar 16 22:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the way to get promote | Mar 16 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | d | Mar 16 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | the virtue is the lack of integrity | Mar 16 22:13 |
| matey | log in, turn on, sell out | Mar 16 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | than come the corporate bucks | Mar 16 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | to shoehorn that one into the authority | Mar 16 22:13 |
| matey | i spent a lot of years getting away from non-free stuff. not to just hand all the keys back to ibm and microsoft, thanks | Mar 16 22:14 |
| matey | theyre like that creepy ex that just wont leave you and your family alone | Mar 16 22:14 |
| matey | so they get a job working for your next door neighbour or something | Mar 16 22:14 |
| matey | so you still have to see them everyday-- and theres no other reason for it | Mar 16 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | neighbour sounds benign | Mar 16 22:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | neighbours don't bomkb people; | Mar 16 22:15 |
| matey | thats because the neighbour is innocent | Mar 16 22:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM does nukes | Mar 16 22:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft does lots of army shiot | Mar 16 22:15 |
| matey | ibm isnt the neighbour, i suppose the linux kernel is the neighbour | Mar 16 22:15 |
| matey | or some other free software project | Mar 16 22:16 |
| matey | microsoft and ibm are the people who wont leave | Mar 16 22:16 |
| matey | first they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they fund you, then you lose | Mar 16 22:16 |
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| matey | its not that bad, its not that hopeless. its close enough. | Mar 16 22:17 |
| matey | its pretty bad | Mar 16 22:17 |
| matey | if it were quite as bad as that there would be no point in fighting them | Mar 16 22:17 |
| matey | i dont believe that though | Mar 16 22:18 |
| matey | part of it is "our fault" for trusting them and letting them in this far | Mar 16 22:21 |
| techrights-news | Gerbil and Molasses: Two More Gemini (and Gopher) Clients That Are Actively Developed | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/gerbil-and-molasses/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/16/gerbil-and-molasses/ | Mar 16 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gerbil and Molasses: Two More Gemini (and Gopher) Clients That Are Actively Developed | Techrights | Mar 16 22:21 | |
| matey | scarequotes because that wasnt a consensus move, and it happened over many years-- and it was deliberate on their part | Mar 16 22:22 |
| techrights-news | Purism Launches Librem SIMple: A Cellular Service that Protects Digital Privacy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162631#comment-33086 | Mar 16 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Librem, Arduino, and RISC-V | Tux Machines | Mar 16 22:22 | |
| techrights-news | Gerbil and Molasses: Two More Gemini (and Gopher) Clients That Are Actively Developed | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/gerbil-and-molasses/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/16/gerbil-and-molasses/ | Mar 16 22:22 |
| matey | get us to trust them, then go ahead and take over | Mar 16 22:22 |
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| matey | same as the trojan war | Mar 16 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | similar, yes | Mar 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that Troy story is not real | Mar 16 22:23 |
| matey | im not surprised | Mar 16 22:23 |
| matey | its a useful allegory | Mar 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | The horse here cannot even speak good English | Mar 16 22:23 |
| matey | plus these are companies that use those tactics, so even if it was fake then its real now | Mar 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and has no experience or pedigree in the community | Mar 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft shill for decades | Mar 16 22:23 |
| matey | are we talking abot swapnil? | Mar 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | openly corrupt people invite in such horses | Mar 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: not spamnil | Mar 16 22:24 |
| matey | openly corrupt people invite in such horses <- yes but the community accepts them too. i blame the horse primarily | Mar 16 22:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | ibm and microsoft ceos incidentally have similar accent | Mar 16 22:24 |
| matey | lots of indians are trilingual if not more | Mar 16 22:25 |
| matey | now you mean nadella | Mar 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is sexist, too | Mar 16 22:25 |
| matey | oh absolutely | Mar 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the moles don't mind sexism | Mar 16 22:25 |
| matey | hes very conservative socially | Mar 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just accuse _us_ of it | Mar 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if their masters are very very sexist | Mar 16 22:25 |
| matey | thats how it goes. one rule for rulers, another for the ruled | Mar 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ | Mar 16 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights | Mar 16 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | they try to induce shameand self-loathing | Mar 16 22:26 |
| schestowitz | or inner conflict | Mar 16 22:26 |
| schestowitz | dividing people | Mar 16 22:26 |
| schestowitz | old tactics | Mar 16 22:26 |
| matey | whats the point of making the rules if you cant put yourself above them? | Mar 16 22:26 |
| *x_ is now known as kingoffrance | Mar 16 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | nbritish were not the first to do it | Mar 16 22:26 |
| matey | romans did it before britain? | Mar 16 22:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/russia-history-ibm/ | Mar 16 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and Red Hat Boycott Russia and Belarus, But IBMβs History Tells a Different Story | Techrights | Mar 16 22:27 | |
| schestowitz | matey: don't know | Mar 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | don't know romas history well | Mar 16 22:27 |
| kingoffrance | "its like russian nesting dolls of bullshit" lol yes | Mar 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | or persian empie | Mar 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | or Ottoman | Mar 16 22:27 |
| matey | im sure some of them did | Mar 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | but be worried when Microsoft ships us lots of opium through indians | Mar 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | that's another British tactis | Mar 16 22:28 |
| schestowitz | for occupation | Mar 16 22:28 |
| matey | yep | Mar 16 22:28 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_wars | Mar 16 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Opium Wars - Wikipedia | Mar 16 22:28 | |
| kingoffrance | "but that Troy story is not real" im sure its astrology... | Mar 16 22:28 |
| matey | funnily enough, the east india company wasnt even interested in conquest (in that sense of the word) just business | Mar 16 22:28 |
| matey | but britain saw an opportunity, to say the very least | Mar 16 22:28 |
| matey | and the east india company was the means | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, anyway | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we are governed by a bunch oif stoners | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | or if we are brainwsashesd | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | sedated | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | kool-aid | Mar 16 22:29 |
| matey | today its a lot different, if a company can hijack the government to literally take over new markets in other lands, they will | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. "tech" media | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's a problem | Mar 16 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it makes the invasion swifter | Mar 16 22:29 |
| kingoffrance | when you said sophist who plays with words (paraphrase) im more and more convinced thats what most things boil down to matey :) | Mar 16 22:30 |
| matey | "marketing" | Mar 16 22:30 |
| matey | its the word of the century | Mar 16 22:30 |
| kingoffrance | LANGUAGE, n. The music with which we charm the serpents guarding another's treasure. and the previous century, and the ... :) | Mar 16 22:31 |
| matey | i dont know about every century | Mar 16 22:31 |
| techrights-news | Today Linux Foundation published "STATEMENT AGAINST TEXAS DISCRIMINATION". It needs to explain this: http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ | Mar 16 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Itβs Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights | Mar 16 22:31 | |
| matey | it certainly has a hold on people | Mar 16 22:31 |
| techrights-news | The Linux Foundation Does Not Truly Care About Diversity and Inclusion, Itβs Just Using That β’ Techrights β http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/lf-diversity-and-inclusion/ δ· | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/15/lf-diversity-and-inclusion/ | Mar 16 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Does Not Truly Care About Diversity and Inclusion, Itβs Just Using That | Techrights | Mar 16 22:31 | |
| matey | "the priest" is an older example | Mar 16 22:32 |
| matey | prince? | Mar 16 22:32 |
| matey | slip of the tongue maybe | Mar 16 22:32 |
| matey | the prince | Mar 16 22:32 |
| matey | im keeping it though | Mar 16 22:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | princeofprance :-) | Mar 16 22:32 |
| matey | someone you know? | Mar 16 22:33 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-15-22-18.jpg | Mar 16 22:33 |
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| psydroid2 | princedefrance | Mar 16 22:33 |
| psydroid2 | Mar 16 22:33 | |
| matey | ohhh | Mar 16 22:33 |
| MinceR | Planetary Defense Force | Mar 16 22:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Portable D* F* | Mar 16 22:34 |
| matey | i meant il principe by machiavelli | Mar 16 22:35 |
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| techrights-news | Linux Foundation Spam, Microsoft Representation, and Fluff β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162639 | Mar 16 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Spam, Microsoft Representation, and Fluff | Tux Machines | Mar 16 22:35 | |
| MinceR | "portable" document format | Mar 16 22:35 |
| matey | you can put it on a usb drive and thats portable | Mar 16 22:35 |
| matey | you can extract some of the strings out of it, and if youre really lucky you can get some images | Mar 16 22:36 |
| matey | b | Mar 16 22:36 |
| matey | ut you k | Mar 16 22:36 |
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| matey | now it might look like this | Mar 16 22:36 |
| chicksahoy | PDF works fine on my linux boxes | Mar 16 22:37 |
| matey | its like the ntfs of document formats. sure there are readers, even writers, but its practically non-free anyway | Mar 16 22:37 |
| chicksahoy | libreoffice even has export to PDF | Mar 16 22:37 |
| matey | and inkscape has import | Mar 16 22:37 |
| matey | but its a mess | Mar 16 22:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | :/ | Mar 16 22:38 |
| matey | its better than nothing | Mar 16 22:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | pdf does not have much advantages | Mar 16 22:38 |
| matey | it just doesnt convert well | Mar 16 22:38 |
| chicksahoy | whats better than pdf? | Mar 16 22:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it assumes you want to print stuff | Mar 16 22:38 |
| MinceR | i have pdf-s in which the capital 'A' in a particular font will only render in adobe's software | Mar 16 22:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | PDF for information is like "apps" for mobile | Mar 16 22:38 |
| matey | document formats are like web browsers, theyve all jumped the shark and they pretty much all suck | Mar 16 22:38 |
| MinceR | because it's "portable" | Mar 16 22:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR | you make the wrong assumption, e.g. that your web site will be accessed by a "phone" or the reader needs pagination | Mar 16 22:39 |
| matey | ignore the fact that microsoft deliberately sought to sabotage them | Mar 16 22:39 |
| MinceR | and adobe's software re-renders the entire page every time you scroll, and only retains the tiny sliver that was exposed by scrolling | Mar 16 22:39 |
| MinceR | so it's an utter pain to use | Mar 16 22:39 |
| kingoffrance | https://github.com/modula3/cm3 in here there was an old thing from dec called lectern (i dont know license) some old "digital paper" project. it was very lightweight, because-rendered. i guess i do not mind pdf itself per se (as read, dont use it for forms or anything fancy) ...but readers you can count from dos version installer fit on a floppy or two....20M download now? so it goes with everything | Mar 16 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - modula3/cm3: Critical Mass Modula-3 | Mar 16 22:39 | |
| MinceR | adobe people have absolutely no clue about programming | Mar 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they oughtsourced around 20 years agho | Mar 16 22:40 |
| kingoffrance | *pre-rendered for various sizes | Mar 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if they were better in the 80s | Mar 16 22:40 |
| kingoffrance | *as reader | Mar 16 22:40 |
| matey | in the 80s there was one format for every device :) | Mar 16 22:40 |
| matey | if you owned two devices there were probably two formats | Mar 16 22:40 |
| matey | might as well be docassembly :) | Mar 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we have user ID for each device | Mar 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | for "optimising ads to YOU!!@" | Mar 16 22:40 |
| chicksahoy | its a shame I can't hand out my resume in markdown format | Mar 16 22:41 |
| matey | gemini works | Mar 16 22:41 |
| kingoffrance | cvs2svn ... to git history: 22 years ago :) | Mar 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | chicksahoy: if you can, it's a neat employer | Mar 16 22:41 |
| matey | its a shame I can't hand out my resume in markdown format <- you could, you would just limit yourself to cool potential employers | Mar 16 22:41 |
| matey | and there arent many. | Mar 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | a sign it might be a good place to work | Mar 16 22:41 |
| chicksahoy | there arent any good places to work | Mar 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | my employer used to be better | Mar 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes things deteriorate | Mar 16 22:42 |
| chicksahoy | law firms all want microsoft stuff | Mar 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and usually things can only go downhill over time | Mar 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | as technology generally becomes more hostile over time | Mar 16 22:42 |
| matey | like linux | Mar 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Mar 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | linux too | Mar 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't need azure-bits in my kernel | Mar 16 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | get this crap out of here | Mar 16 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but money | Mar 16 22:43 |
| chicksahoy | whats the solution? freebsd? | Mar 16 22:43 |
| matey | the azure bits arent in the kernel are they? i thought they were in a real time os in the gpu | Mar 16 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | freebsd is also in Microsoft's pockets | Mar 16 22:43 |
| matey | freebsd is the most microsoftian bsd | Mar 16 22:43 |
| chicksahoy | openbsd? | Mar 16 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 16 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | openbsd a little less | Mar 16 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they too are taking microsoft money and similar funding sources | Mar 16 22:44 |
| matey | openbsd is the most free, unless you can run hyperbola | Mar 16 22:44 |
| matey | openbsd has taken money from a lot of people | Mar 16 22:44 |
| chicksahoy | openbsd used to take DARPA money | Mar 16 22:44 |
| matey | but theyve also lost huge amounts of funding through demonstrating integrity | Mar 16 22:44 |
| matey | exactly chicksahoy | Mar 16 22:44 |
| matey | but its not like gnu/linux doesnt have defense contractors | Mar 16 22:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they keep things lean | Mar 16 22:44 |
| chicksahoy | openbsd is canadian | Mar 16 22:45 |
| matey | its canadian but not spineless | Mar 16 22:45 |
| kingoffrance | i'd like to raise my price is right figure 302 MB 908 MB for trial of the fancy version windows 11 english 64-bit acrobat reader | Mar 16 22:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | openbsd is dutch-canadian-african ;-) | Mar 16 22:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 continents | Mar 16 22:45 |
| matey | and possibly a little bit martian | Mar 16 22:45 |
| chicksahoy | lol | Mar 16 22:45 |
| matey | most importantly though, freedom 3 is very important | Mar 16 22:46 |
| matey | and its hard to have freedom 3 with something like linux | Mar 16 22:46 |
| matey | which no one can actually fork | Mar 16 22:46 |
| techrights-news | Gulag Maps is malware. In 2006 you could already read MSM articles about how CIA was using it to locate you and figure out your mind while you used it. https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-maps-location-history/ | Mar 16 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 4 Things You Can Do with Google Maps Location History - Make Tech Easier | Mar 16 22:46 | |
| matey | the license allows it, it also allows you to jump into space if your legs are strong enough | Mar 16 22:46 |
| immibis | why can nobody fork linux? | Mar 16 22:47 |
| matey | ask linus, he couldnt fork it if he wanted | Mar 16 22:47 |
| immibis | complexity? there are even random hobby operating systems using linux drivers | Mar 16 22:47 |
| MinceR | it's hideously bloated | Mar 16 22:47 |
| chicksahoy | its GPLv2, why cant it be forked | Mar 16 22:47 |
| techrights-news | 1: Steaming Up About Linux Gaming - TuxDigital β https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/linux-out-loud/lol-1/ | Mar 16 22:47 |
| MinceR | but maybe eventually someone will have to do it | Mar 16 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-1: Steaming Up About Linux Gaming - TuxDigital | Mar 16 22:47 | |
| matey | oh i didnt say the drivers cant be forked | Mar 16 22:47 |
| immibis | linux drivers are a brilliant starting point for hardware support, compared to no drivers at all | Mar 16 22:47 |
| matey | openbsd has reverse engineered the drivers sometimes | Mar 16 22:48 |
| matey | yeah linux drivers can be reused | Mar 16 22:48 |
| chicksahoy | isnt that because openbsd can't use gpl drivers because it has the bsd license? | Mar 16 22:48 |
| matey | but i dont think there will ever be a fork of the kernel itself | Mar 16 22:48 |
| techrights-news | "Content note: The following post contains references to violence." Thank you, Sirs, now I want to read it MOAR. https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Mar 16 22:48 |
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| immibis | there are several forks *in the linux development process* | Mar 16 22:48 |
| immibis | every company that doesn't want to contribute upstream has a fork | Mar 16 22:48 |
| matey | openbsd has a policy of avoiding gpl code | Mar 16 22:48 |
| immibis | which is most of them | Mar 16 22:48 |
| matey | its not complete-- they still use some, try as they might | Mar 16 22:49 |
| immibis | everyone working on the kernel has a fork | Mar 16 22:49 |
| matey | legally it might be on shaky ground to use gpl drivers | Mar 16 22:49 |
| immibis | because? | Mar 16 22:49 |
| matey | everyone working on the kernel has a fork <- this is a linuguistic argument that talks about something other than what im saying altogether | Mar 16 22:49 |
| immibis | patents? | Mar 16 22:49 |
| matey | linux is not forkable in the sense that openoffice was forkable. | Mar 16 22:50 |
| immibis | just make the kernel GPL instead of BSD and you can use the drivers. OpenGPL | Mar 16 22:50 |
| matey | there may be a linux-libre but there will never be a librelinux | Mar 16 22:50 |
| techrights-news | You won't defeat Vladolf Putler in a war if you raise a generation of imbecile, infantile adolescents who curl up into a fetal position any time they feel a little stressed or challenged | Mar 16 22:50 |
| matey | because linux-libre isnt a fork | Mar 16 22:50 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: not even a link. What is TR-news doing? That is basically just culture war propaganda | Mar 16 22:50 |
| immibis | what is a fork? | Mar 16 22:51 |
| matey | there are different kinds of forks, im sure | Mar 16 22:51 |
| matey | i mean a fork in the sense of a project that is based on, but independent of the original. | Mar 16 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: I don't follow... | Mar 16 22:51 |
| matey | thats what libreoffice is | Mar 16 22:51 |
| matey | libreoffice is a true fork | Mar 16 22:51 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: pardon me for not knowing how exactly techrights-news operates. techrights-news just privmsg'd some nonsense sentence consisting entirely of culture war bullshit and zero substance. Why is that? | Mar 16 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: no, it challenged self-censorship | Mar 16 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | This? [22:50] <techrights-news> You won't defeat Vladolf Putler in a war if you raise a generation of imbecile, infantile adolescents who curl up into a fetal position any time they feel a little stressed or challenged | Mar 16 22:52 |
| immibis | matey: I worked on an embedded linux product, and we just took whatever linux did at that point, and didn't care too much about keeping it up-to-date | Mar 16 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | this isn't culture war | Mar 16 22:52 |
| immibis | yes that | Mar 16 22:52 |
| matey | devuan by comparison, will never be independent of debian, even though it was a goal | Mar 16 22:52 |
| immibis | that is culture war | Mar 16 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can give examples of culture war | Mar 16 22:52 |
| immibis | the culture war implication is that a generation *is* being raised that way | Mar 16 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's only culture war for people who fall into the dualo-wing spiel | Mar 16 22:53 |
| matey | matey: I worked on an embedded linux product, and we just took whatever linux did at that point, and didn't care too much about keeping it up-to-date <- immibis, that might be an example of a fork that refutes my claim then. | Mar 16 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | where you have to "choose a side' | Mar 16 22:53 |
| immibis | the only reason to say it is because of sides | Mar 16 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | where you have to "choose a side'] <techrights-news> "Content note: The following post contains references to violence." | Mar 16 22:54 |
| matey | if it does refute my claim, i would have to change the claim to be true: "linux is IMPRACTICAL to fork in any way that is likely to sustain it" | Mar 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are no photos | Mar 16 22:54 |
| immibis | matey: everyone who doesn't install security updates makes a fork | Mar 16 22:54 |
| matey | but saying its "unforkable" for short almost seems reasonable. | Mar 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they warn about mere words | Mar 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | in this case, not of a sexual nature | Mar 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | now look at the page | Mar 16 22:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | what they warn about | Mar 16 22:54 |
| immibis | some people have PTSD | Mar 16 22:54 |
| matey | matey: everyone who doesn't install security updates makes a for <- this is a somewhat obtuse and technical claim with no practical b | Mar 16 22:54 |
| matey | earing on the argument | Mar 16 22:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't see anything violent mentioned | Mar 16 22:55 |
| matey | your other claim is more relevant | Mar 16 22:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if, the very mention of a war is in itself going to shock people | Mar 16 22:55 |
| kingoffrance | i liked the collective punishment line. the "west" flexing their individualism | Mar 16 22:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | later in universities history cannot be taught | Mar 16 22:55 |
| matey | do it your own way-- or else | Mar 16 22:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | heck, even the bible | Mar 16 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | It seems consumer packaged goods companies have a real disaster on their hands. | Mar 16 22:56 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: it may shock some people | Mar 16 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've noticed like, huge price hikes on things like soap and coffee, then they put massive rebates on an app. | Mar 16 22:56 |
| immibis | if it doesn't actually talk about violence, then sure, maybe they are being overzealous with the warning | Mar 16 22:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am scanning the page atm | Mar 16 22:57 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: welcome to free market. enjoy your stay. | Mar 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying to see if there are any descriptions of torture, mutilation, even death | Mar 16 22:57 |
| matey | i have ptsd, i dont think its reasonable to cover the earth in squishy foam to make it soft enough for me to never bump into it in an unpleasant way | Mar 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the page is very focused on internet policy | Mar 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and arrests | Mar 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: have a loook | Mar 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Mar 16 22:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I cannot find violent bits | Mar 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "cyberattack" yes | Mar 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "outage" | Mar 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "blackout" | Mar 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM might insistb they change the word | Mar 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | According to IBM, words like blackout are not inclusive | Mar 16 22:59 |
| mjg59_ | " The residents of Mariupol have been deliberately cut off from the world after Russian troops shelled the areaβs last cell tower" | Mar 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the page speaksd of technical things | Mar 16 22:59 |
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| mjg59_ | Shelling things sounds pretty violent to me | Mar 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does not mention violence (that I can see), only arrests | Mar 16 22:59 |
| mjg59_ | How is shelling infrastructure not violent? | Mar 16 23:01 |
| techrights-news | Embrace Kubernetes, get more security flaws. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/cr8escape_container_runtime_bug/ | Mar 16 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Kubernetes container runtime CRI-O has make-me-root flaw β’ The Register | Mar 16 23:01 | |
| matey | infrastructure isnt people | Mar 16 23:01 |
| matey | or living things | Mar 16 23:01 |
| mjg59_ | "behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something." | Mar 16 23:01 |
| mjg59_ | Infrastructure is something | Mar 16 23:01 |
| techrights-news | Some BSDs call them "jails". | Mar 16 23:02 |
| matey | im not so much disagreeing with your definition of violence, as determining what the threshold must be for someone else to count it as such | Mar 16 23:02 |
| matey | they must think it only counts when its directed at (likely sentient) life | Mar 16 23:02 |
| mjg59_ | He could say that rather than just switching to a different topic when an example is pointed out | Mar 16 23:03 |
| matey | he could | Mar 16 23:03 |
| kingoffrance | *" infrastructure isnt people" that was supposedly the one "right" of a serf. as a ...thing...attached to the land, they had the "right" to stay and work with a change of owner | Mar 16 23:04 |
| kingoffrance | sometimes people are buildings :) | Mar 16 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | So the sefl-described "SJW" is now protecting us from hearing about the shelling of some antenna | Mar 16 23:04 |
| matey | buildings are people too | Mar 16 23:04 |
| kingoffrance | -- mitt romney | Mar 16 23:04 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Out Loud, Deck, and FLOSS Weekly β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162640 | Mar 16 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Out Loud, Deck, and FLOSS Weekly | Tux Machines | Mar 16 23:05 | |
| matey | So the sefl-described "SJW" is now protecting us from hearing about the shelling of some antenna <- if so he has failed | Mar 16 23:05 |
| chicksahoy | i could violently throw my phone at the wall | Mar 16 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon we won't have news | Mar 16 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | or war reporting | Mar 16 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | people will just "perish" | Mar 16 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "move on" | Mar 16 23:05 |
| matey | if you violently throw your phone at the wall, the risk would be startling or concerning others nearby | Mar 16 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | "pass way" was the old one | Mar 16 23:06 |
| mjg59_ | The entire point of content warnings is so that you don't self-censor in the actual content | Mar 16 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | "grandpa passed away" | Mar 16 23:06 |
| matey | to be certain, its all relative. shooting your own pillow with a gun would likely bother them even more. | Mar 16 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | look up the skit of george carlin about softening euphemisms | Mar 16 23:06 |
| mjg59_ | You let people make a decision about whether they want to read it | Mar 16 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what they do to communication | Mar 16 23:06 |
| matey | even if it only put a hole in a pillow | Mar 16 23:06 |
| immibis | talks about people being killed and arrested by russia, how is that not violence? | Mar 16 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | I've basically stopped going to McDonalds. | Mar 16 23:07 |
| matey | right on time, dfc | Mar 16 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | That air fryer does a good job on breakfast sandwiches/burritos. | Mar 16 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: the article does not menion deaths | Mar 16 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Not all soggy like the microwave. | Mar 16 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it mentoons arrests | Mar 16 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, in Belarus | Mar 16 23:07 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: that's what happened with coronavirus. Politicians just got so scared of the far-right that they started pretending it poofed out of existence. | Mar 16 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | covid-19 is a very nasty thing | Mar 16 23:07 |
| immibis | shelling has been killing people | Mar 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we need to show people what it does | Mar 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | for them to not just"chill it out" | Mar 16 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, they realized finally that the far-right was coming unhinged to the point that they would be another serious threat during the election. | Mar 16 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | Enough to push Republican gains deep deep into districts they had no business even possibly winning before. | Mar 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, covid isn't a left/right thing | Mar 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you think it is, the media has conned you | Mar 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | partisan BS, old imperiali tactics | Mar 16 23:08 |
| matey | left/right reactions are a left/right thing (sort of) | Mar 16 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you hindu/ you muslim" | Mar 16 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | The Democratic Party has been pretty racist throughout history. | Mar 16 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | Even back when it actually was a progressive party. | Mar 16 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | And it didn't simply limit it to "anti-black" racism. | Mar 16 23:09 |
| matey | the line between "left" and "right" is so ridiculous now that its hard to have a conversation about it is that isnt nonsense | Mar 16 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | When the Republicans gained that wing of the Democratic Party, well, the 5 states that make up the "deep south" haven't returned since they voted for Nixon. | Mar 16 23:09 |
| matey | though if someone is yelling at you out of their truck because you ARE wearing a mask, they probably consider themselves right wing. | Mar 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon we won't be able to talk about death penalties | Mar 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or gassing of people | Mar 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. as capital punishment in the US | Mar 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | The death penalty is way different than mass executions because "reasons". | Mar 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | kids will roam the streets care-free | Mar 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | Or to put down political opposition. | Mar 16 23:10 |
| matey | im pretty sure even the fake left will continue to protest the death penalty | Mar 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | they never heard of violence | Mar 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | no books with witches and snakes | Mar 16 23:10 |
| chicksahoy | when the clownvoy occupied ottawa, i was watching live video and listening to their audio chat (Zello) and it was pretty much all right wing people | Mar 16 23:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then some pedophiles show us | Mar 16 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | When you give death to drug dealers and rapists and murderers, then you make society safer. | Mar 16 23:11 |
| chicksahoy | i didnt get that from the media | Mar 16 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | What Putin wants to do is not the "death sentence". | Mar 16 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's mass executions to purge opposition. | Mar 16 23:11 |
| matey | stalin loved those | Mar 16 23:11 |
| matey | he was kind of a dick. | Mar 16 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | He openly threatens it now to try to make the protests stop. | Mar 16 23:12 |
| matey | dfc: source? | Mar 16 23:12 |
| XRevan86 | Putin has no reason not to bring up the death penalty now. | Mar 16 23:12 |
| XRevan86 | * to bring back | Mar 16 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-putin-warns-pro-western-traitors-ukraine-1.6386960 | Mar 16 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | Putin warns of pro-Western 'traitors' in Russia, references 'self-cleansing' of country | CBC News | Mar 16 23:12 | |
| MinceR | hopefully he'll get it | Mar 16 23:12 |
| matey | cheers | Mar 16 23:12 |
| XRevan86 | So that's exciting. | Mar 16 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | "self-cleansing" | Mar 16 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: lol | Mar 16 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's like a self-cleaning oven. | Mar 16 23:12 |
| matey | too soon | Mar 16 23:12 |
| XRevan86 | I can confirm he said exactly that. | Mar 16 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | You just put all of the protesters in and set it to MAXIMUM. | Mar 16 23:13 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22031428 | Mar 16 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/84b6qdy010n81.jpg created on 2022-03-14 11:49:55.898848 | Mar 16 23:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Not at all like something the Nazis did. | Mar 16 23:13 |
| MinceR | all the humans are already in an oven we're heating | Mar 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | not climate change metaphor | Mar 16 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still working through "gas guzzler" problems on my car. | Mar 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: porcelain | Mar 16 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Today I filled up the tank again and got my best city mileage yet. | Mar 16 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | I think it's practically impossible to be a pessimist | Mar 16 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | 21.75 | Mar 16 23:14 |
| matey | "Meanwhile, U.S. President Joe Biden called Putin a "war criminal"" <- mr biden actually lobbied to increase the death penalty for domestic combatants | Mar 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | cars are heavy t | Mar 16 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | When I got the car it was getting like 10-11 mpg. | Mar 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will always take up too much power | Mar 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and emit heat | Mar 16 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Mom had let it get so bad. | Mar 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter if they run on oil or farts or crops | Mar 16 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well, when everything is filthy and worn out, the engine doesn't work right. | Mar 16 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Then it actually can burn almost twice as much fuel as it's supposed to. | Mar 16 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Mar 16 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | Biden saw the iconic image "War Criminal PyΓ±a V.V." | Mar 16 23:14 |
| matey | i think calling putin a war criminal is fair, its funny coming from biden | Mar 16 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | Biden was alwaysd regarded as to the "right" of Obama | Mar 16 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | It costs less to clean sensors and replace some wear items than it does to buy all of that extra gas. | Mar 16 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Especially at these prices! | Mar 16 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | on pretty much all policies | Mar 16 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but now, after Trump, many think Biden is "left" | Mar 16 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Air up your tires. Air is free. | Mar 16 23:15 |
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| DaemonFC | What always makes me laugh is those green tire caps. | Mar 16 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | https://static.dw.com/image/54614229_303.jpeg | Mar 16 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | People who fill up their tires with nitrogen for extra money. | Mar 16 23:16 |
| matey | the general grasp on left/right isnt too firm, schestowitz-TR | Mar 16 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | Can't remember how many years the authors got. | Mar 16 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Regular air is 80% nitrogen. | Mar 16 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, 2 years in prison. | Mar 16 23:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR | you need a lot of energy just to inflate the tires | Mar 16 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | So you pay extra, per tire (plus fill-ups) to fill them with something you can mostly get anyway by putting regular air in. | Mar 16 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | That was 2018, good times. | Mar 16 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you do it manually, which is hard even for a bicycle, takes a lot of effort | Mar 16 23:16 |
| matey | how much to fill your tyres with liquid nitrogen :) | Mar 16 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I use a bicycle pump to keep mine up to pressure. | Mar 16 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's not that difficult. | Mar 16 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | I run mine 35 psi front and 33 psi on the rear. | Mar 16 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to get one of those large pumps, but cannot justify it | Mar 16 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're like 30 pounds and you only use them like twice a year | Mar 16 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to pump at the petrol stations | Mar 16 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | i don't know if they even make those pumps available anymore | Mar 16 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, topping off your tires isn't that difficult. | Mar 16 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | If you never let them get more than 1-2 psi lower than they're supposed to be. | Mar 16 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use an old plastic tiny bike pump | Mar 16 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have to strike it like 100 times per tire | Mar 16 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's hard to grip | Mar 16 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | You have to keep after it otherwise you're wasting lots of money on extra gas that's not getting you anywhere. | Mar 16 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | *stroke | Mar 16 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least it's light so you can carry it along | Mar 16 23:19 |
| matey | "In his address to ministers, Putin said the West was trying to divide Russia" | Mar 16 23:19 |
| matey | americans: its the russians on twitter! | Mar 16 23:20 |
| matey | russia: its the americans on twitter! | Mar 16 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "divide"= | Mar 16 23:20 |
| matey | twitter: its people who wont give us their phone number! | Mar 16 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they try to make people not agree with me | Mar 16 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | if "Stalin's Dream" is people goina round with mobile number as ID, what does that make Twitter? :p | Mar 16 23:21 |
| kingoffrance | divide == we did a false merger and want to cement it, dont blow my smoke screen | Mar 16 23:21 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> i don't know if they even make those pumps available anymore <- theyre still available, but they cost more now | Mar 16 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Twitter is so stupid. | Mar 16 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: they used to be free | Mar 16 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | How is a microblogging company that censors and spies "worth" so much it's on a major stock exchange? | Mar 16 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | you walk by, pick up the hose | Mar 16 23:22 |
| matey | yep | Mar 16 23:22 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> How is a microblogging company that censors and spies "worth" so much it's on a major stock exchange? <- surveillance capitalism | Mar 16 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: it is not profitable | Mar 16 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not this year | Mar 16 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not last year | Mar 16 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not 2 years ago | Mar 16 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter is a money sink | Mar 16 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | The Fed hiked rates a tiny bit today. | Mar 16 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Market goes up. | Mar 16 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | funded partly by Saudi "roysls" | Mar 16 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | That was going on while they were hiking rates under Trump. | Mar 16 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Every day they hiked, stocks went up. | Mar 16 23:23 |
| matey | the fed poisons everyones coffee just a little each day | Mar 16 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | what market? The looters' league | Mar 16 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | So if their whole rationale for keeping rates low is to prop up stocks, which go up when they raise rates, then why keep the rates low? | Mar 16 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "market" is the shops near you | Mar 16 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not waltons' | Mar 16 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ordinary shops | Mar 16 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | dineries | Mar 16 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | I wondered yesterday... | Mar 16 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's "the market" | Mar 16 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Why Walmart is so big in China. | Mar 16 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not TheMarket(R) | Mar 16 23:24 |
| matey | everything in walmart is chinese, including the number of cameras in the store | Mar 16 23:25 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpQYsk-8dWg | Mar 16 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zpQYsk-8dWg | Mar 16 23:25 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | matey: amazon too, to a degree... | Mar 16 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | US "TheMarket(R)" | Mar 16 23:26 |
| matey | amazon is like walmart 2000 | Mar 16 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | isn't the US | Mar 16 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's many consumers and many sweatshops | Mar 16 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and people pocketing the surplus | Mar 16 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | TheMarket(R) is that last group | Mar 16 23:26 |
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| DaemonFC | I can see why Walmart is doing well in the UK. The government there is as utterly corrupt and maybe worse than the US. It's getting there fast under their current regime. | Mar 16 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | They lost "world power" status a long time ago. They're well past that. | Mar 16 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | They had virtually no leverage left over world politics by 1997 when they handed over Hong Kong and they have even less still now. | Mar 16 23:30 |
| matey | #techrights : 03/16/22 23:24 <DaemonFC> Why Walmart is so big in China | Mar 16 23:30 |
| matey | DaemonFC : 03/16/22 23:26 >< QUIT (): Ping timeout: 2m30s | Mar 16 23:31 |
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| matey | DaemonFC dont criticise china. youll get a ping timeout. | Mar 16 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | About the two major changes to push them over the edge entirely are a major pensions and NHS crisis causing government budget problems, and Boris Johnson, which was swept to power by a bunch of idiots who thought one election with a guy promoting brexit would fix everything. | Mar 16 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | T-Mobile internet, everybody. | Mar 16 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, Walmart and China... | Mar 16 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Letting them do business there is graft. | Mar 16 23:32 |
| matey | at least it saves on shipping | Mar 16 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart buys more from China than cloning their business and running it themselves is worth. | Mar 16 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but other than a brand for shelving, what is Walmart? | Mar 16 23:32 |
| matey | my question is how can walmart actually WORK in china | Mar 16 23:33 |
| matey | how can they cut prices lower than china itself? | Mar 16 23:33 |
| matey | walmart: everything is a penny | Mar 16 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it's kind of funny because like in China, 90% of the stuff Walmart sells is made in China. | Mar 16 23:33 |
| matey | china: whatever, just take it | Mar 16 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | They probably promote that there. They would never want us to know. | Mar 16 23:33 |
| matey | thats not the worst of it. the worst of it is i had a friend from china that told me people there want to buy all the "american" things | Mar 16 23:34 |
| matey | i was like what american things, you make all of it there | Mar 16 23:35 |
| matey | american logo + chinese manufacturing = american things | Mar 16 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/16/wisconsin-dentist-guilty-damaging-patients-teeth-boost-profits | Mar 16 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Dentist found guilty of damaging patientsβ teeth to boost profits | Wisconsin | The Guardian | Mar 16 23:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Another reason to get second and third opinions. | Mar 16 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's cheaper than just letting one dentist say you need a root canal and then after he's done nobody can prove you didn't need one. | Mar 16 23:36 |
| kingoffrance | Lev Andropov: It's stuck, yes? Watts: Back off! You don't know the components! Lev Andropov: [annoyed] Components. American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN! | Mar 16 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, Walmart is on a new "Buy American Pledge". | Mar 16 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | And most of the stuff they said they'd buy is stuff that was already made here and they just started slapping an American flag icon on it. | Mar 16 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Like fucking mouthwash. | Mar 16 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | "βSome of these patients were extremely vulnerable individuals in abusive relationships, recently widowed, survivors of cancer and living paycheck to paycheck scrounging to afford the co-pays required for the unnecessary procedures he was billing,β said prosecutor Julie Stewart in 2020." | Mar 16 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Walwart: we buy AMERICA | Mar 16 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | (bought it in the 1990s) | Mar 16 23:38 |
| matey | /me liked some of their albums | Mar 16 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Dentists that take PPO plans are less likely to commit major fraud than the others. Because if they start billing "95% more crowns than average" the insurance companies will launch an investigation into why they're paying that. | Mar 16 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | The ones that "don't take insurance" are more suspicious. | Mar 16 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | fwiw, i don't know if walmark uk (asda) does well | Mar 16 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | "<schestowitz-TR> Walwart: we buy AMERICA" | Mar 16 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's never too busy | Mar 16 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | aldi is far more competitive, even lidi | Mar 16 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I remember paying $300 for a DVD player there in the 90s. | Mar 16 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | My dad said to me, DVD's will never catch on. | Mar 16 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | many pcs cannot play them | Mar 16 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | felta was partly right | Mar 16 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "Dad, you're the only one who bought an RCA "Disco-o-Vision" system, but DVD will catch on and people will use them decades from now.". | Mar 16 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | New movies still get a DVD release. | Mar 16 23:40 |
| matey | finding a pc that can play vhs is even harder | Mar 16 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | now people stream withg drm | Mar 16 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | You can still buy new movies on DVD so obviously people are still buying DVDs. | Mar 16 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: ripping is the way | Mar 16 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | files you can move around | Mar 16 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | blueray and dvd are against thar | Mar 16 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | dvd jon changed it | Mar 16 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a bit | Mar 16 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | DVD can't really stop you from ripping it. | Mar 16 23:41 |
| schestowitz | *bluray | Mar 16 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's so weakly protected that a moden computer can just break the disc's encryption in a second or two and rip anyway. | Mar 16 23:41 |
| schestowitz | weakly protected now | Mar 16 23:42 |
| schestowitz | but they have had other plans | Mar 16 23:42 |
| schestowitz | anyway, today's computers lack optical drives | Mar 16 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | You can plug one into USB. | Mar 16 23:42 |
| schestowitz | most people ride the dollars of Wall Street that subsidise them moving to no-own model | Mar 16 23:42 |
| schestowitz | you temporarily rent access to watch something | Mar 16 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo gave me a USB type C external DVD-RW drive for free with this laptop. | Mar 16 23:42 |
| schestowitz | like movie theatres, except on your shoddy PC | Mar 16 23:43 |
| schestowitz | with no good picture or sound | Mar 16 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | I can rip CDs with it too if I want. | Mar 16 23:43 |
| kingoffrance | matey, im sure you've seen quite a few 90s vhs used as backup. ~2GB or so per tape? | Mar 16 23:43 |
| schestowitz | but it's an add-on | Mar 16 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | The library has tons of CDs. No need to bittorrent anything and give anyone evidence that you have the music. | Mar 16 23:43 |
| schestowitz | no longer part of the PC | Mar 16 23:43 |
| matey | /me figures that in a few years movies will come encoded on parchment with a series of wheels you have to align, and if you drop the movie a vial spills onto the parchment and destroys it | Mar 16 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Why would you want it as part of the laptop? | Mar 16 23:43 |
| chicksahoy | its still legal to download pirated music in canada | Mar 16 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Every disc drive makes the laptop super bulky and then breaks at some point. | Mar 16 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have a broken disc drive making your laptop heavier. | Mar 16 23:44 |
| schestowitz | matey: lol, just keep watching the ads | Mar 16 23:44 |
| schestowitz | all of them, till the end | Mar 16 23:44 |
| schestowitz | nice parchment | Mar 16 23:44 |
| schestowitz | would be a shame if something happened to it | Mar 16 23:44 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: like your earlobes | Mar 16 23:45 |
| schestowitz | they just add weight | Mar 16 23:45 |
| schestowitz | and risk of cancer | Mar 16 23:45 |
| schestowitz | remove them | Mar 16 23:45 |
| matey | ralph fiennes has to retire eventually | Mar 16 23:46 |
| schestowitz | or go fully aerodynamic like crazy van gough | Mar 16 23:46 |
| techrights-news | The audiocast of today shows Gerbil and Molasses in action; towards the end we also show Moonlander, Telescope, Amfora, Kristall, and Lagrange (Gemini clients) http://techrights.org/2022/03/16/gerbil-and-molasses/ | Mar 16 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gerbil and Molasses: Two More Gemini (and Gopher) Clients That Are Actively Developed | Techrights | Mar 16 23:46 | |
| matey | he still had considerable drag on one side | Mar 16 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i thought he did both sides | Mar 16 23:47 |
| matey | you know this is worth looking up | Mar 16 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe one was enough for the encelope | Mar 16 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: na.. you would get trigger-warned | Mar 16 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for this one I can understand | Mar 16 23:48 |
| matey | only the lobe of the left, not the whole thing | Mar 16 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's more gory an articulation than antenna being shelled | Mar 16 23:48 |
| matey | i dont think van gogh had antenna, but it would explain a few things | Mar 16 23:48 |
| kingoffrance | that was dali antenna mustache | Mar 16 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | so at school they misled us | Mar 16 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | they told us it was the ear, not part of it | Mar 16 23:49 |
| matey | british schools and their anti-impressionist propaganda! | Mar 16 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people still mutilate themselves for piercings and stuff in that area | Mar 16 23:49 |
| matey | i mean part of the ear is the ear | Mar 16 23:49 |
| matey | like if you hurt your hand | Mar 16 23:49 |
| matey | its not like you have to hurt the whole thing | Mar 16 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | palm vs finger | Mar 16 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you struggle a lot with one palm missing | Mar 16 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | one finger missing is no great loss | Mar 16 23:50 |
| matey | you know what they say, believe half of what you see and none of what you ear | Mar 16 23:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | many lost a finger in their workshops | Mar 16 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless it's the thumb | Mar 16 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | most important finger | Mar 16 23:50 |
| matey | unless it's the thumb <- thats a good rule | Mar 16 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | any other finger missing and you can still be world champion at anything | Mar 16 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | if humans were designed | Mar 16 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | we would have a spare thumb | Mar 16 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | or 2 fingers in one direction, 3 the other | Mar 16 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we are not designed | Mar 16 23:52 |
| matey | or could grow a new one like a gecko | Mar 16 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | there you go | Mar 16 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | gecko >> human | Mar 16 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | octopus for sure | Mar 16 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | cats maybe | Mar 16 23:53 |
| matey | id say we make up for it every winter | Mar 16 23:53 |
| matey | sure we might lose some fingers, but geckos will just drop dead | Mar 16 23:53 |
| techrights-news | Find is not part of Linux https://medium.com/techtofreedom/7-uses-of-find-command-in-linux-c45f70d7351a | Mar 16 23:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 Uses of find Command in Linux. Find it and do what you want | by Yang Zhou | TechToFreedom | Mar, 2022 | Medium | Mar 16 23:54 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation or Linus Torvalds need to do some trademark enforcement. https://www.papermag.com/linux-nyc-february-2656919186.html | Mar 16 23:55 |
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| AdmFubar | :P my late brother in law cut off two of his finger in an accident.. he used to call them his baby fingers... he got more kids to quit sucking their thumbs by telling them he sucked his thumb a lot when he was little and they didn't grow in right. | Mar 16 23:57 |
| matey | thats wicked | Mar 16 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | Mar 16 23:57 |
| matey | After cutting off his ear Van Gogh put on his beret and dragged himself to a nearby brothel to give the severed earlobe, wrapped in paper, to a young woman recently identified as Gabrielle | Mar 16 23:57 |
| AdmFubar | :P | Mar 16 23:57 |
| matey | of course he couldnt leave without his beret | Mar 16 23:58 |
| AdmFubar | now that is wicked sick! | Mar 16 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | artist | Mar 16 23:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β ββββ ββ ββββββββββ βββββββββββββ ββ ββββ avg(k/sec) 69.45 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 93.16β swarm size (avg): 277.91 β² | Mar 16 23:58 |
| matey | gabrielle is a nice name | Mar 16 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe his red tube was out of juice | Mar 16 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he wanted to finish the painting | Mar 16 23:58 |
| matey | whats the most gracious way to turn down a gifted ear? | Mar 16 23:59 |
| matey | "im so sorry vincent, i already have one" | Mar 16 23:59 |
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