IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, January 20, 2021

Ariadne

elastic is definitely the new SCO

http://distfiles.dereferenced.org/gov.uscourts.cand.347725.1.0.pdf

Ariadne

Ariadne

read paragraphs 27 and 28 here

Ariadne

the "copied" code is not remotely the same, and then in paragraph 28 they perjure themselves

Ariadne

what a goddamn trainwreck

http://distfiles.dereferenced.org/gov.uscourts.cand.347725.33.0.pdf

vZS1_2

"Elastic is the creator of the Elastic Stack suite of products that is centered on the popular and powerful Elasticsearch search and analytics engine. Leading companies and organizations like Cisco Systems, Facebook, and NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the California Institute of Technology use and depend upon Elasticsearch. "

Jan 20 00:54

vZS1_2

What is advertising doing in a legal document?

Jan 20 00:54

kingoffrance

"cannot do open wifi" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mme2Aya_6Bc

Jan 20 01:04

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I'm Afraid I Can't Do That, Dave. - HAL in "2001" - YouTube

Jan 20 01:04

Ariadne

Jan 20 01:26

Ariadne

their response

Jan 20 01:26

techrights-ipfs

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Jan 20 01:29

vZS1_2

There's an index of proceedings here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16154366/elasticsearch-inc-v-floragunn-gmbh/

Jan 20 01:41

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elasticsearch, Inc. v. Floragunn GmBH, 4:19-cv-05553 – CourtListener.com

Jan 20 01:41

Ariadne

yeah

Jan 20 01:42

Ariadne

the rest of it isn't terribly interesting (at least, i don't see any reason to give PACER any more money right now)

Jan 20 01:42

Ariadne

however, floragunn's elasticsearch security product predate's elastic's, which i know directly because i used to manage an ES cluster in 2013 using their ESP project (which later became search guard)

Jan 20 01:43

vZS1_2

Better get some shut-eye before the birds start chirping. Catcha yall later.

Jan 20 02:07

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Jan 20 02:07

DaemonFC[m]

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/19/958542403/union-pushing-keystone-xl-faces-racial-discrimination-suit

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Union Pushing Keystone XL Faces Racial Discrimination Suit : NPR

DaemonFC[m]

Canada pushing the planet roaster pipeline. US walking away from it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/keystone-xl-may-be-sold-for-scrap-if-biden-moves-to-kill-it/ar-BB1cRN83

DaemonFC[m]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Keystone XL May Be Sold for Scrap If Biden Moves to Kill It

DaemonFC[m]

"The Canadian province that invested $1.1 billion of taxpayers’ money in the controversial Keystone XL project is now considering the sale of pipe and materials to try to recoup some funds."

Jan 20 02:18

techrights-ipfs

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Jan 20 02:29

techrights-bot

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techrights-bot

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https://www.tomsguide.com/amp/news/win10-browser-filepath-bsod

techrights-bot

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techrights-ipfs

IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 776 MB TotalOut: 356 MB

Jan 20 03:00

techrights-ipfs

New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID:

Jan 20 03:00

techrights-ipfs

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Jan 20 03:01

DaemonFC[m]

Jan 20 03:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | Look out: This browser link will crash your Windows 10 PC | Tom's Guide

Jan 20 03:11

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz The return of concon!

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MinceR

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Jan 20 03:54

techrights-bot

#Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, January 19, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives

techrights-bot

#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index

techrights-bot

Now that #trump is finished corrupt #iancu is leaving https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/director-andrei-stepped.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu #uspto #corruption

Jan 20 04:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Director Andrei Iancu has stepped-down as PTO Director | Patently-O

Jan 20 04:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights

Jan 20 04:08

techrights-bot

"Fez is the tool used for uploading your dists to the zef ecosystem. Subquestion: why the name fez? Surely it does the opposite of zef and should be named as such." https://deathbyperl6.com/faq-zef-ecosystem/ #rakulang #perl

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deathbyperl6.com | faq: zef ecosystem — death by Perl 6

techrights-bot

"fez is a utility for interacting with the zef ecosystem. you can think of it as the opposite of zef. zef downloads distributions and installs them and fez uploads making them available to zef." https://deathbyperl6.com/fez-zef-a-raku-ecosystem-and-auth/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deathbyperl6.com | fez|zef - a raku ecosystem and auth — death by Perl 6

techrights-bot

This is not a "Linux" issue, this is an unpatched software issue for software that's not even Linux but installed on top of GNU/Linux https://securitybrief.co.nz/story/check-point-uncovers-live-linux-attack-urges-users-to-take-action

Jan 20 04:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securitybrief.co.nz | Check Point uncovers live Linux attack, urges users to take action

Jan 20 04:17

techrights-bot

#WireGuard Is Now Available For #pfSense - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=WireGuard-pfSense-Introduced •●• #BSD #UNIX

Jan 20 04:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WireGuard Is Now Available For pfSense - Phoronix

Jan 20 04:20

techrights-bot

"Welcome to the second developer interview following the introduction of the new Showcase page! This week, we've interviewed Monolith of Minds about their latest game Resolutiion." https://godotengine.org/article/godot-showcase-monolith-of-minds-resolutiion

Jan 20 04:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Godot Showcase - Resolutiion developer Monolith of Minds talks about their experience

Jan 20 04:22

techrights-bot

This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association

Jan 20 04:24

techrights-bot

"For me it's probably one of the most exciting open-world survival games (next to Valheim) supported on #GNU #Linux ." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/steampunk-survival-game-volcanoids-has-a-huge-combat-upgrade

Jan 20 04:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steampunk survival game Volcanoids has a huge combat upgrade | GamingOnLinux

Jan 20 04:26

techrights-ipfs

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Jan 20 04:29

techrights-bot

Compact i.MX8M Plus module ships with full Linux BSP and Starterkit • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146656 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 04:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compact i.MX8M Plus module ships with full Linux BSP and Starterkit | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:29

techrights-bot

#AstroSlide 5G slider phone specs and shipping date get finalized http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146482#comment-27861 #gnu #linux

Jan 20 04:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding Astro Slide 5G smartphone ships in June, has a physical keyboard, and promises Linux support | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:33

techrights-bot

Simple-Mail Qt library 2.3 released https://dantti.wordpress.com/2021/01/19/simple-mail-qt-library-2-3-released/ #qt #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware

Jan 20 04:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dantti.wordpress.com | Simple-Mail Qt library 2.3 released – Dantti's Blog

Jan 20 04:35

techrights-bot

#Snort 3 #freesw #IntrusionPrevention System Released with Major New Features • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146655 •●• #GNU #Linux

Jan 20 04:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Snort 3 Open-Source Intrusion Prevention System Released with Major New Features | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:37

techrights-bot

"Comparing Spinnaker vs. Jenkins can help enterprises make the right tooling decision for their CI/CD pipelines, but the proper lens might just be one that views them in tandem. Explore each tool's features for building and deploying applications, and why enterprises should use them together." https://searchitoperations.techtarget.com/tip/Evaluate-Spinnaker-vs-Jenkins-for-CI-CD

Jan 20 04:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchitoperations.techtarget.com | Evaluate Spinnaker vs. Jenkins for CI/CD

Jan 20 04:39

techrights-bot

#socialcontrolmedia is dying http://coyote.works//posts/OOMRepeats20210119/

Jan 20 04:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coyote.works | Consolidating Positions

Jan 20 04:42

techrights-bot

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146657 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 04:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:43

techrights-bot

Games: Bugs Under #Ubuntu , Godot Showcase (Resolutiion), and Volcanoids • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146658 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 04:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Bugs Under Ubuntu, Godot Showcase (Resolutiion), and Volcanoids | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:46

techrights-bot

"I’m wondering whether there are any rights of publicity or false-light issues associated with using someone’s likeness in your patent application." #patent #patents #fb #facebook https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/patent-violate-publicity.html

Jan 20 04:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Can a Patent Violate Rights of Publicity? | Patently-O

Jan 20 04:48

techrights-bot

"This error and more specifically its footer “Powered by Tengine” stirred up my interest and so I started looking for more information about this unknown to me web server." http://knowledgebasement.com/introduction-to-tengine-web-server/

Jan 20 04:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowledgebasement.com | Introduction to Tengine Web Server |

Jan 20 04:49

techrights-bot

GNOME 40 Will Now Handle XWayland On-Demand By Default • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146659 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

Jan 20 04:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 Will Now Handle XWayland On-Demand By Default | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Jan 20 04:53

techrights-bot

Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in #eBPF • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660 •●• #Linux #Kernel

Jan 20 04:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:56

techrights-bot

Open Hardware: #Arduino , #EasyOS for the Pi. and More • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146661 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 04:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Arduino, EasyOS for the Pi. and More | Tux Machines

Jan 20 04:59

techrights-bot

#Security Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146662 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 05:02

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 05:02

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Jan 20 05:06

techrights-bot

BSD: WireGuard in #pfSense and #PulseAudio in #FreeBSD • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146663 •●• #UNIX #BSD

Jan 20 05:06

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BSD: WireGuard in pfSense and PulseAudio in FreeBSD | Tux Machines

Jan 20 05:06

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Jan 20 05:07

techrights-bot

"We showcase a tool that will change your Linux game. Plus our thoughts on the recent Btrfs FUD, a bunch of feedback, and a handy pick." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/143992/harder-butter-faster-stronger-linux-unplugged-389/

Jan 20 05:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Harder Butter Faster Stronger | LINUX Unplugged 389 | Jupiter Broadcasting

Jan 20 05:08

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techrights-ipfs

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Jan 20 05:29

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Jan 20 05:41

psydroid

<techrights-bot "Why was this #intel spam posted?"> Intel <3 Linux too, as we know now

Jan 20 05:43

schestowitz__

It loves it, but does not know how to convey and express that love :0D

Jan 20 05:48

schestowitz__

Intel loves control

schestowitz__

and the control and market power is in gnu/linux now

schestowitz__

so it has no choice but to fake "love"

schestowitz__

BTW, seems like 12 hours down the line we're been throttled again

schestowitz__

you spend 3 hours redoing the network

schestowitz__

testing the line all the way to the cabinet

schestowitz__

changing equipment etc.

schestowitz__

and at first it's fast again, then capped

schestowitz__

I am not 99% sure it's down to capping

schestowitz__

and they will never want to admit it

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Ariadne

if it’s bursty and stuttery then it’s deprioritization

schestowitz__

that's what it is

schestowitz__

like a burst of traffic

schestowitz__

then steps for a few secs

Ariadne

i’m thinking about starting a groklaw type blog

schestowitz__

then resumes

schestowitz__

Ariadne: groklaw is back onlone

schestowitz__

last week

schestowitz__

after 2.5 months

Ariadne

yes but groklaw isn’t covering cases *now*

Ariadne

like elastic suing everyone and their dog

Ariadne

Techrights-sec

Quite likely. It is also possible that they just move capacity around to the

Techrights-sec

most recently "solved" case.

Techrights-sec

Groklaw is still missing most of the comments. The

Techrights-sec

static site version has only the folded threads.

schestowitz__

Ariadne: if you do such a blog, we can collaborate and help boost its presence

schestowitz__

I think people will come back to blogging

http://coyote.works//posts/OOMRepeats20210119/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coyote.works | Consolidating Positions

Ariadne

having been in both technical and policy roles i have a good understanding of all of the angles

schestowitz__

and RSS too, I hope

Ariadne

techrights is good from an advocacy angle, but we lack analysis

Jan 20 05:59

Ariadne

that’s what groklaw really was good at

Jan 20 05:59

schestowitz__

it had access to people

Ariadne

and i think we are going to need that more than ever as all the tech bubble pops and everyone starts suing each other

schestowitz__

not necessarily geeks but lawyers

schestowitz__

like Mark Webbink

Ariadne

i’m not a lawyer obviously but i have a decent amount of paralegal experience

Jan 20 06:01

Ariadne

elastic vs floragunn is a really concerning case

schestowitz__

yes, I noticed

schestowitz__

OSI commented also

http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644#comment-27857

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644#comment-27857 )

schestowitz__

we sued ES in the NHS

Ariadne

elastic v floragunn is probably more concerning than elastic v aws

schestowitz__

a lot

schestowitz__

*used

schestowitz__

not sued

schestowitz__

BTW, as you can see above, TM has some ddos-like issues

Ariadne

floragunn is an independent developer which primarily makes FOSS plugins for ES

schestowitz__

e.g. over 10k reqs per minute

schestowitz__

that has not happened for like a week

schestowitz__

started about an hour ago

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Ariadne

elastic may have actually ripped off one of their plugins and then turned around and sued them about it

schestowitz__

BTW, re legal issue

schestowitz__

eng told us yesterday afternoon that changing ISPs would not help

schestowitz__

except maybe Virgin as ISP

schestowitz__

but...

schestowitz__

still, I suspect that BT just lacks the overall bandwidth

schestowitz__

we can joke that it's due to brexit or covid

schestowitz__

Ariadne: do you use ES?

Ariadne

i don’t know how openreach works

schestowitz__

as recently as yesterday I was doing some ES support for NHS

Ariadne

i do not personally but some of my customers do

schestowitz__

Ariadne: it's just an openwashing veneer for BT

schestowitz__

A lot of places you phone turn out to be just BT

schestowitz__

with another name

Ariadne

amazing

schestowitz__

ES is very good

schestowitz__

but..

schestowitz__

not the whole licensing thing

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Ariadne

ES used to be 100% apache2

Ariadne

floragunn makes apache2 plugins for ES that compete with elastic proprietary plugins

Ariadne

elastic suing floragunn to shut that down

Ariadne

claiming they “stole” code from elastic

schestowitz__

There are no blogs left to do analysis of FreeSW issues, legal issues

schestowitz__

almost none

schestowitz__

except law firms marketing themselves

Ariadne

even though i’ve been supporting installs with floragunn plugins since 2013

Ariadne

so clearly that’s nonsense

Ariadne

[00:07] <schestowitz__> There are no blogs left to do analysis of FreeSW issues, legal issues

Jan 20 06:08

Ariadne

right exactly

Jan 20 06:08

Ariadne

that’s what i think i can contribute

Jan 20 06:08

schestowitz__

There used to be a few except groklaw

schestowitz__

like guest writers in IDG

schestowitz__

Andrew something, I forgot his name

schestowitz__

even Phipps occasionally, and he has mostly vanished

schestowitz__

a lot of media in general has died

schestowitz__

it's good that we started self-hosting more things

schestowitz__

seeing the general trend of censorious things

schestowitz__

I can say the "F" word in videos

schestowitz__

in youtube if you offend someone they file a complaint

schestowitz__

and then you can have the video taken down, issued a warning, deplotformed or 'demonetised'

schestowitz__

so people start self-censoring

schestowitz__

Google is in it for control and money, nothing else

Techrights-sec

Jan 20 06:12

Techrights-sec

The threads at Groklaw ought to be expanded and only then saved as static.

Jan 20 06:12

Techrights-sec

But it is probably way too late.

Jan 20 06:12

techrights-bot

Seeing that the #BT situation is NOT improving after 16 days and about 20 hours DOWN THE DRAIN, I'm going to treat this as a "personal project" to expose what they do to their so-called 'customers'. I've paid them as much as car costs in the past decade.

Jan 20 06:14

schestowitz__

Ariadne: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2021/01/2021-01-14-mpa.md

Jan 20 06:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dmca/2021-01-14-mpa.md at master · github/dmca · GitHub

Jan 20 06:25

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Jan 20 06:29

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Jan 20 06:37

akechi

as a maintainer what do you get from switching from github

Jan 20 06:39

akechi

You increase the friction of people to contribute

akechi

now you have to deal with running you own servers if you self host

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akechi

And the risks aren't really that concerning

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Jan 20 06:41

schestowitz__

akechi: you could say the same about many things

Jan 20 06:43

schestowitz__

what do you get out of having toilets at home? You could use public facilities instead.

schestowitz__

Why buy a server? You can rent space in clown computing

schestowitz__

Why buy a phone? there are public phone booths and they're being regularly maintained

schestowitz__

why waste money adding a kitchen to a home?

akechi

I mean most people use aws or some other cloud

schestowitz__

You could dine out instead

schestowitz__

car... taxi

schestowitz__

many other examples

schestowitz__

akechi: yes, not a good practice

schestowitz__

ask those whom aws deplatformed

schestowitz__

or rips off

schestowitz__

clown is not cheaper

schestowitz__

and in github you get nothing for free

schestowitz__

the costs are just hidden

akechi

I dare you to build your own storage with the same reliablity and scaling as S3

akechi

let me know how much it'll cost you

Jan 20 06:46

akechi

With github the benefits outweight the costs

Jan 20 06:46

akechi

you get exposure, which is critical of an open source project

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

this is a fallacy

schestowitz__

and microsoft fakes it

schestowitz__

as does social control media

schestowitz__

many dummy accounrs

schestowitz__

for illusion of scale

akechi

I mean there's real people Isee

akechi

filing issues

akechi

making PRs

schestowitz__

the biggest freesw project, linux, does not need shithub

schestowitz__

other projects get that outside Microsoft

akechi

pretty impressive of microsoft to hire people to try out my software

akechi

and file bugs

akechi

I thank them for their service

schestowitz__

that's like saying that because people "like" things in Twitter it's impractical not to be "on" Twitter

schestowitz__

now I am beginning to think you're just trolling

schestowitz__

Microsoft is attacking GitHub

schestowitz__

or its users

schestowitz__

it's not there to help

schestowitz__

it did not buy it to help

kingoffrance

akechi

every big project not using github has a foundation behind it

http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsoft’s Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights

akechi

more or less

schestowitz__

so use github

schestowitz__

and good luck

schestowitz__

come back when things upset you the way whatsapp does

akechi

I mean yeah

akechi

then you can swtich

schestowitz__

“Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists – who want it back with huge profits. And whatever Microsoft pays for it, they will want it back too. Who pays in the end? The users. FYI: Blender has its code on http://git.blender.org and developer services on http://developer.blender.org – we already host our own services since 2002. About “users paying”: I don’t

schestowitz__

mean the freemium model. I believe that in due time @github services slowly degrade to losing control and ownership of your work.”

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.blender.org

schestowitz__

-blender chief

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.blender.org | Home

https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/1003590417848455168

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonroosendaal: Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists - who wan… https://t.co/RYfRCMBtob

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akechi

blender foundation has tons a backers

akechi

they can afford to do this stuff

akechi

they have offices and a dozen full time staff

schestowitz__

they also use peertube

schestowitz__

youtube is a similar threat

schestowitz__

more gnu/linux vloggers try to move off it

akechi

what do you think the genius plan microsoft would have for github

schestowitz__

you cannot grow is you depend on google managing your 'followers' or 'subscribers' etc

schestowitz__

you are at the mercy is a FOR-PROFIT entity

akechi

the reason it was bought was to create a funnel for cloud

schestowitz__

akechi: read the above

schestowitz__

you clearly have not studied why Microsoft bought shithub

akechi

If they lose users the that destorys the value

schestowitz__

it's not altruism

akechi

of course not

schestowitz__

and saying it's "Free" is like saying "FB is FREE!"

schestowitz__

or "service"

schestowitz__

they're all disservices

schestowitz__

there's no "cloud"

schestowitz__

you mean server hosting

schestowitz__

and you begin to answer your own question

schestowitz__

they leverage these things to upsell and push proprietary software

schestowitz__

to developers and users

schestowitz__

those are overpriced

schestowitz__

and they will turn up the heat

schestowitz__

anyway

schestowitz__

bbl

schestowitz__

this debate is not useful

schestowitz__

read the link I gave above

akechi

yeah i read it

akechi

it's not very informative

akechi

I don't expect my free samples at costco to have dog shit in them

Jan 20 06:54

schestowitz__

false analogy

Jan 20 06:54

akechi

Because I know they want ensure I actually buy the product

Jan 20 06:54

schestowitz__

shithub is immaterial

schestowitz__

it's not a physical product

akechi

what does that mean

schestowitz__

it's leverage

akechi

what

schestowitz__

and a digital trap

akechi

buddy you should up what software is

akechi

look up*

schestowitz__

github is not software

schestowitz__

you don't install it

akechi

but like how's it a trap

schestowitz__

you can't change it

akechi

What would be the master plan

schestowitz__

it's a site

akechi

explain it to me

akechi

in detail

schestowitz__

and FB is not software either

schestowitz__

anyway

schestowitz__

bbl

schestowitz__

this is a waste of time tbh

techrights-bot

#Security Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146664

Jan 20 07:04

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 07:04

akechi

anyways as a final challenge I recommend you build your own message broker, storage, l7 load balance, and autoscaling set of servers

akechi

with 5 9s uptimes

akechi

in a month

akechi

and see how that turns out

akechi

you may find that people using aws and gcp for a reason

Jan 20 07:06

techrights-bot

#Programming Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146665

Jan 20 07:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 07:10

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techrights-bot

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Jan 20 07:15

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Jan 20 07:15

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Jan 20 07:15

techrights-bot

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Jan 20 07:17

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Jan 20 07:17

techrights-bot

Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146668 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

Jan 20 07:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 07:18

akechi

so do you read like 1000 blog posts a day

Jan 20 07:19

techrights-bot

January 20th, 2017 http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Newcastle

Jan 20 07:19

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Newcastle

Jan 20 07:20

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techrights-bot

Links 20/1/2021: #WireGuard for #pfSense and New US President • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/wireguard-for-pfsense/

Jan 20 07:24

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Jan 20 07:29

techrights-bot

#IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/irc-log-190121/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW

Jan 20 07:29

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Jan 20 07:29

schestowitz__

[07:20] <-- akechi (490bb546@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.11.181.70) has left this server (Quit: Connection closed).

schestowitz__

he got bored

schestowitz__

didn't even realise he or she was using a web portal

schestowitz__

so likely a recipe for trolling

schestowitz__

and time-wasting

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Jan 20 07:42

psydroid

IP from Washington

schestowitz__

some pro-Microsoft troll

schestowitz__

maybe even employee

schestowitz__

anyway, didn't realise until after s/he'd left

schestowitz__

could waste a lot less time otherwise

Jan 20 07:44

psydroid

I just read the conversation and realised it from the very beginning

Jan 20 07:44

psydroid

they don't like what's happening to them now

Jan 20 07:44

schestowitz__

yes, I suppose so

Jan 20 07:46

schestowitz__

anyway, more github censorship

Jan 20 07:46

schestowitz__

not sure it merits a post

schestowitz__

as it's becoming the 'new normal'

schestowitz__

MAFIAA owns shithub

schestowitz__

and removes any project that /CAN/ be used for infringement

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

freesw purge

schestowitz__

Microsoft's response is, "LOL, go for it!"

Jan 20 07:48

schestowitz__

and then it issues lousy blog posts saying it stands for developers

Jan 20 07:48

schestowitz__

anyway, I hope they bleed users

Jan 20 07:48

techrights-bot

New #malware from #google ... now version 88 https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2021/01/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_19.html #chrome

Jan 20 07:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromereleases.googleblog.com | Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop

Jan 20 07:51

psydroid

no users, no money

psydroid

c-73-11-181-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net

techrights-bot

#qt : we don't care about #freesw anymore https://www.qt.io/blog/problem-with-open-source-downloads only #ProprietarySoftware can be downloaded now

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Problem with Open-source Downloads

psydroid

I can see a few more occurrences in the logs searching on google

psydroid

so MS is keeping a watch on what's going on here

schestowitz__

not surprising

psydroid

it's not just google

schestowitz__

anyway, let them

schestowitz__

but let's not waste time on such trolls

psydroid

identify and ignore

schestowitz__

[06:47] <akechi> pretty impressive of microsoft to hire people to try out my software

schestowitz__

That's what an employee would say

psydroid

I make sure to fork every project I want to do something with and take it out of Shithub

Jan 20 07:55

psydroid

if enough people did this, there wouldn't be much left on it after a while

Jan 20 07:56

techrights-bot

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Jan 20 07:57

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Jan 20 07:57

schestowitz__

psydroid: interesting idea

schestowitz__

you could export and fork every shithub project

schestowitz__

putting it elsewere

schestowitz__

*where

schestowitz__

and find a way to take developers there

schestowitz__

it's legal

schestowitz__

and original devs might not be happy, but it makes a point

Jan 20 07:59

psydroid

yes, indeed

Jan 20 08:01

schestowitz__

I wonder what they can try next

schestowitz__

mjg59 is here

schestowitz__

looking for dirt

schestowitz__

and doing Microsoft/GAFAM apologism

schestowitz__

they already tried pushing my boss to fire me

schestowitz__

they also bribed him

schestowitz__

didn't work

psydroid

that's why I'm eagerly awaiting the FSF decentralised repository software, we could do this in large numbers and essentially take over those projects by merely forking them

Jan 20 08:04

schestowitz__

is it decentralised?

Jan 20 08:05

schestowitz__

I thought fsf was working on its gitlab instance or deriv

Jan 20 08:05

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Jan 20 08:06

psydroid

if it isn't decentralised, that's a bit of a shame

psydroid

because I think it should be

schestowitz__

there's this thing called git

schestowitz__

which is sort of decentralised

schestowitz__

with email

schestowitz__

the p2p git efforts, I heard aren't exactly reliable and stable

Jan 20 08:10

psydroid

yes, so I have been thinking that "issues" could be checked into git as well

Jan 20 08:10

psydroid

a git code repository with a companion issues repository

Jan 20 08:11

schestowitz__

those are separate things

schestowitz__

not everything needs to be a wiki or git repo

schestowitz__

ticketing systems are more suitable

schestowitz__

you would not use a wiki or git commit to track a complaint

psydroid

it would be optional

Jan 20 08:14

psydroid

I would prefer a decentralised ticketing system

Jan 20 08:14

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Jan 20 09:58

Techrights-sec

Regarding BT, are class action lawsuits a thing in the UK?

Jan 20 10:15

Techrights-sec

If so then a group of BT customers could get things moving.

Jan 20 10:15

techrights-bot

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Jan 20 10:17

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Jan 20 10:17

techrights-bot

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Jan 20 10:18

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Jan 20 10:18

techrights-bot

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Jan 20 10:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Help safeguard your Linux server from attack with this REST API | Tux Machines

Jan 20 10:22

techrights-bot

#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146674 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

Jan 20 10:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 10:23

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techrights-bot

You'd think that after paying #BT more than 4,000 pounds in a single decade they'd not disconnect you a dozen times in two weeks (all computers), throttle your connection etc. Yesterday I wasted 3 hours rebuilding everything. And it's still faulty at their end.

Jan 20 11:08

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techrights-bot

Our 16-day #BT ordeal has already wasted DAYS worth of work. Just now... I've had to wait half an hour on the line... merely to request a callback... when I've not received yet. I think they throttle people very badly after #brexitShambles

Jan 20 12:18

vZS1_2

#strongandstable

techrights-bot

#BT has not convinced me that what I wrote in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/09/bt-is-down/ and http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/06/coronavirus-bt/ is not correct. They escalated the issue, but they're not resolving it. They just try to waste time, causing customer fatigue.

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techrights-bot

As I don't wish to write any more blog posts about #BT (I'd rather do articles and videos about important leaks #techrights has received), I'll just post the occasional factual rants in #socialcontrolmedia and keep a tally of the damage caused/lost time/lost work

Jan 20 12:22

techrights-bot

BT stats for 2021: 2 days of functional connection, 17 days of dysfunctional connection (nothing changed at our end). Massive throttling (like 5-fold decrease) started a day or two before lockdowns, they're disconnected all our machines more than a dozen times.

Jan 20 12:24

techrights-bot

BT stats for 2021: 2 visits from #openreach engineers, both confirming there's nothing wrong with the line itself. Router (or hub) changed, it wasn't the culprit at all (as I insisted all along). Line fine, hub fine, the issue is at BT's side for sure.

Jan 20 12:25

techrights-bot

#BT stats for 2021: more than 5 hours on the telephone, about a dozen different people (mostly managers). Refusing about 5 times to answer a simple question about capacity issues and throttling. Common theme/saying: "there's nothing we can do..."

Jan 20 12:26

techrights-bot

#BT stats for 2021: on at LEAST 3 occasions promises of a callback were not fulfilled. In some cases, to make matters worse, those broken promises were from high-level managers. It seems like they have no real resolution, tried to close the ticket (complaint) 3 times, only to reopen it later. They aim for targets/quotas.

Jan 20 12:27

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▃▅▄▅▃▅▄▅▃▄▆▅▄▅▃▄▅▅▅▄▅▆▇▄▆▅▅▆▃▃▄▃▄▇ avg(k/sec) 22.65 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▂▃▂▁▁▂▃▄▂▃▃▃▄▃▂▃▄▃▃▂▃▂▂▃▂▃▃▂▃▄▅▂▂▃▃▃ avg(k/sec) 11.70 ⟲

Jan 20 12:29

techrights-bot

#BT would be wise not to turn customers into determined foes, which is basically what's happening at the moment. One technical person with grievances and spare time (afforded partly by lockdowns) can severely hurt their reputation. Based on the facts alone.

Jan 20 12:29

vZS1_2

Might we worth asking a neighbour for Wifi access just to upload the videos.

Jan 20 12:33

schestowitz__

our nice neighbour left

Jan 20 12:34

schestowitz__

the other ones are not nice

Jan 20 12:34

schestowitz__

or rather, we were warned not to interact with them

Jan 20 12:34

schestowitz__

the less interaction, the better as they're grumpy

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: now I rush the videos again, which I don't want to do

schestowitz__

and voip does not work at all

schestowitz__

you pay BT 4-5 grand in 10 years

schestowitz__

and they cannot sustain service for something like voip... on 2021

Jan 20 12:36

vZS1_2

Work with what you have. Just cut down on the size of each post, data wise.

vZS1_2

If there's anything particularly important, just stick to images and text.

schestowitz__

That's what I do

schestowitz__

BT is to me like a "project"

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schestowitz__

I was there before, 6 years ago...

vZS1_2

And for the most urgent stuff, plaintext still works.

Jan 20 12:38

schestowitz__

I am 'thankful' in a sense... that I have a connection at all

Jan 20 12:38

schestowitz__

if we had none (altogether), it would be chaotic, for the job and other things

Jan 20 12:38

vZS1_2

How's the download rate atm?

Jan 20 12:40

schestowitz__

enough for coarser videos

Jan 20 12:48

schestowitz__

I sometimes wonder...

schestowitz__

how many different IP addresses connect to IPFS?

schestowitz__

or, put another way, how many concurrent connections?

schestowitz__

(please note I do not blame ipfs and it's unlikely the culprit as 1) it ran ok for months 2) sometimes for several hours all is well)

vZS1_2

`$ ipfs swarm peers | wc -l`

schestowitz__

I noticed that in the hub's port forwarding rules there were something added to the pi which I never added myself

schestowitz__

ipfs swarm peers | wc -l

schestowitz__

865

vZS1_2

It fluctuates frequently

schestowitz__

how would you interpret that? number of peers?

vZS1_2

yeah

schestowitz__

could that slow down/harm up/down capacities

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

like I said, it was not an issue until weeks ago

vZS1_2

Not really, unless you have very low bandwidth to begin with. We're talking just a few bytes being exchanged per peer.

vZS1_2

And peers drop in and out all the time

schestowitz__

seems like 1gb up per day

schestowitz__

2 down

schestowitz__

that's not much compared to something like HD over DRM crap

vZS1_2

Yep. It's tiny.

schestowitz__

or uploading of some youtube videoss

schestowitz__

it's not hard to do 30GB per day down

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vZS1_2

If you watch a few YouTube videos in 1080p, you're already downloading a quite a few GB.

schestowitz__

and number of peers should not impact it

schestowitz__

could it be the number of peers?

schestowitz__

Are all those LIVE connections?

vZS1_2

Not that I've noticed

schestowitz__

live but idle?

vZS1_2

I haven't looked into the details but I think they get kicked for being idle

schestowitz__

another datapoint:

schestowitz__

yesterday, like last time the engineer was here

schestowitz__

the router was power-cycled

schestowitz__

after that ipfs resumed straight away

schestowitz__

yet the connection worked fine for about half a day

schestowitz__

is it possible that number of peers grew over time to the point of suffocating the line?

vZS1_2

Nah, that won't happen. There's a limit on peers, by default.

schestowitz__

or, should I temporarily put ipfs daemon down to see what happens?

schestowitz__

or no point trying?

Jan 20 12:56

schestowitz__

maybe some sessions are 'racing' for the upstream pipe

Jan 20 12:56

vZS1_2

There's an upper bound for peers set in ~/.ipfs/config

Jan 20 12:56

vZS1_2

Under Swarm.ConnMgr.HighWater

schestowitz__

"LowWater": 600,

schestowitz__

"HighWater": 900,

vZS1_2

Yeah. Same as mine. That's the default

schestowitz__

yeah, you beat me to it

schestowitz__

let me try to reset the service

schestowitz__

see what happens...

schestowitz__

hmm..

schestowitz__

you know what?

schestowitz__

now my uploads seem faster

schestowitz__

a lot faster

schestowitz__

so maybe this was the culprit all along

vZS1_2

Like I said, it depends on how much bandwidth you have to begin with.

schestowitz__

maybe I should lower the limits?

schestowitz__

what should I set it to instead?

vZS1_2

I wouldn't go lower than 500 for High

schestowitz__

yes, connection a lot faster now

schestowitz__

let's try 500

vZS1_2

You'll need to restart the daemon, I think.

vZS1_2

After changing the config

schestowitz__

yeah

schestowitz__

btw, is killall the way to do it?

schestowitz__

The way it starts is inelegant

vZS1_2

simple kill suffices

schestowitz__

so maybe I can lower it and maybe stop it while you serve copies if there are uploads

vZS1_2

Yeah. I was going to suggest the same

vZS1_2

I seed a lot of torrents and have IPFS on 24/7

schestowitz__

wife and I:

schestowitz__

(right now)

schestowitz__

they probably lowered the capacity

schestowitz__

as bw remained the same

schestowitz__

so in January they capped it

schestowitz__

last month bw was the same

schestowitz__

brb, will reconfigure

Jan 20 13:02

vZS1_2

Some days I upload hundreds of GB of data. lol

Jan 20 13:02

techrights-bot

#InteLeaks – Part XXII: Bubbles and Buzzwords, No Substance at Intel’s Internet of Things (IoT) Group (IOTG) • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/intel-iot-edge-iotg/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW

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schestowitz__

she keeps saying...

schestowitz__

all those conferences and stuff

schestowitz__

so it's BT that changed

schestowitz__

now...

schestowitz__

assuming it's the 'culrit'

Jan 20 13:04

schestowitz__

should I still chase BT to bring back old capacity?

Jan 20 13:04

schestowitz__

restarted ipfs

schestowitz__

observation:

schestowitz__

number of peers grows quickly

schestowitz__

100 within less than a minute

schestowitz__

so that might not explain why it can take a day or half a day to slow down the whole connection

schestowitz__

now 300 peers

schestowitz__

I set limit to 500

Jan 20 13:06

schestowitz__

in/out rates about the same

Jan 20 13:06

vZS1_2

shouldn't make too much difference. Most peers are just requesting CIDs

Jan 20 13:06

schestowitz__

how accurate are those stats?/

schestowitz__

I mean, can you reliably say those are the in/out totals?

schestowitz__

just so I can confront BT over it...

vZS1_2

Yeah. I would trust the logging.

schestowitz__

now 514 peers

schestowitz__

so it jumped back up very fast

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schestowitz__

OK, so vZS1_2, pursue BT further?

vZS1_2

It goes over the max every now and then. But it will go down after the daemon "checks" again

vZS1_2

Yeah. You still shouldn't have lower capacity

schestowitz__

mind you, during nighttime when I add CID by cron jobs the slowdowns have no meaningful effect on me

vZS1_2

Pinning on your node shouldn't really use much data at all

vZS1_2

So that sounds reasonable

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vZS1_2

Especially since we're dealing with plaintext files

techrights-bot

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Jan 20 13:12

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Jan 20 13:12

schestowitz__

oh, one more POINT :-)

schestowitz__

in the evenings it used to get a lot faster

schestowitz__

and ipfs still ran as usual

schestowitz__

the graphs here in irc show ipfs activity was largely the same

schestowitz__

so something in the ISP/pipe changed

schestowitz__

i.e. BT

http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611100558557#c3490417049742011138

techrights-bot

The video above is continuation of the previous part about a document full of superficial buzzwords (not technical jargon anywhere), in effect recommending to managers that they blindly follow trends and cargo cults (such as #ClownComputing ) http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/intel-iot-edge-iotg/

Jan 20 13:14

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Jan 20 13:14

techrights-bot

Referring to #patent litigation by #patentTrolls as "Crown Jewels" (to lawsuits fanatics and profiteers maybe) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/the-crown-jewels-of-uk-patent-cases/ JUVE is hilarious http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve

Jan 20 13:17

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Jan 20 13:17

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Jan 20 13:17

techrights-bot

#epi #fakepatents https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/pinsent-masons-and-ms-digitalprint-win-invalidity-action-on-sealing-technology/ these people don't mind the EPO issuing lots of garbage patents if they profit from billing to toss them out, too

Jan 20 13:18

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Jan 20 13:18

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat

schestowitz__

Attentive Observer)

schestowitz__

Nothing is inexorable at the EPO but the will of its head. But heads come and go, and before coming to such far reaching changes at the EPO, a Diplomatic Conference or at least a Conference of ministers of the Contracting States responsible for patent matters should be called, cf. Art 4a EPC.

schestowitz__

The duty of the president is to urgently call such a conference as since the entry into force of the EPC 2000 in 2007, at least two conferences should have taken place and the next one should be in preparation.

schestowitz__

By the way Art 10(2,b) EPC provides that “unless this Convention provides otherwise, he [the president] shall prescribe which acts are to be performed at the European Patent Office in Munich and its branch at The Hague respectively. I cannot see there that he has the power to dematerialise acts as fundamental in the patent procedure as OP.

schestowitz__

Art 10(2,a) might allow the president to “take all necessary steps to ensure the functioning of the European Patent Office, including the adoption of internal administrative instructions and information to the public”, but Art 10(2,a) has to be read in conjunction with Art 10(2,b).

schestowitz__

With examining and opposition divisions distributed all over the Contracting states, and OP being no more than virtual, as the staff not residing in Munich or The Hague but can be anywhere over Europe, the president does not seem to be up his duties!

schestowitz__

Who will inform the AC of this?

schestowitz__

What applies to the first instance applies as well to the boards, but I am sure that should necessity arise, the EBA could come up with another very convenient “dynamic interpretation”.

schestowitz__

techrights-bot

"It is the attempt for representative’s firms not located in Munich to get a piece of this cake! No more no less! See the CIPA paper." #CIPA #corruption #EPO #lobbying #EPC (being violated FOR PROFIT) http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611097955253#c8447565069040293101

Jan 20 13:21

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Jan 20 13:21

vZS1_2

I accidentally deleted some gtags(1) files. Need to regenerate. GDI.

Jan 20 13:24

techrights-bot

"The #CJEU has set a near impossible bar for meeting grounds for appeal in trademark cases, counsel say, who are split on the impact of the changes" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q69dz76jxnnp/the-impossible-task-cjeu-appeals-becoming-extinct

Jan 20 13:24

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Jan 20 13:24

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: aha

Jan 20 13:27

schestowitz__

well, I habitually back up that homedir to my laptop and then several external HDDs

schestowitz__

and all the stuff, inc. key binaries, is in the homedirs, so restoring service ought not be so hard

schestowitz__

I just hope more people will mirror our CIDs over time

schestowitz__

as I might suspend the service while I do heavy things like uploads of VOIP

schestowitz__

real-time tcp-ip

schestowitz__

bbl

Jan 20 13:29

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▄▇▅▄▅▆▃▄▃▃▄▄▅▅▅▃▅▆▄▂▄▂▅▅▅▅▄▄▄▅▅▄ avg(k/sec) 20.90 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▂▃▂▄▃▄▅▂▃▄▃▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▃▂▃▃▄▃▂▂ avg(k/sec) 10.96 ⟲

Jan 20 13:29

schestowitz__

going to record something

Jan 20 13:29

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Jan 20 13:31

vZS1_2

I have to generate new gtags(1) files for global(1) every time I update some repositories (for the latest commit).

Jan 20 13:52

vZS1_2

I just wiped a new one by accident.

Jan 20 13:52

vZS1_2

I don't bother backing up because they only take a few minutes to generate.

Jan 20 13:53

vZS1_2

Waste of space as the files generated are in the 100MB+ size range.

Jan 20 13:53

vZS1_2

Would rather just wait a few minutes to regenerate

Jan 20 13:53

vZS1_2

I try to only use 120 GB SSDs. The enforced austerity means that I think carefully about the space I use.

Jan 20 13:54

vZS1_2

usually have much less for embedded work anyway

Jan 20 13:54

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: killing ipfs definitely speeds up the uploads

schestowitz__

so I suppose I can suspend it each time I upload something

vZS1_2

Yeah, sounds reasonable.

schestowitz__

at least until BT clarifies why the change

schestowitz__

until then

schestowitz__

it definitely was NOT necessary before

schestowitz__

same traffic levels from ipfs

schestowitz__

this next video is 180mb in sizwe

vZS1_2

That's the nice things about P2P

vZS1_2

Load sharing is trivial

vZS1_2

s/things/thing/

schestowitz__

yup

schestowitz__

thanks for sharing

vZS1_2

anytime

vZS1_2

And the nice thing is that we just worry about one daemon with a CLI

vZS1_2

Troubleshooting and automation is simple

vZS1_2

"Modern web" is far from it.

vZS1_2

We don't even worry about port forwarding with IPFS

vZS1_2

Think about it. How much effort goes into running an HTTP-based system.

vZS1_2

server, load-balancer, etc.

vZS1_2

It's creating artificial work

vZS1_2

"Fake work"

vZS1_2

Especially when all you want to do it share some files

vZS1_2

s/do it/do is/

vZS1_2

P2P is way better for filesharing

vZS1_2

HTTP systems should stick to hypertext

vZS1_2

FTP is also perfectly adequate for a centralised model of filesharing. I still use it.

Jan 20 14:07

vZS1_2

But P2P, imo, has sharing built into design way better.

Jan 20 14:07

schestowitz__

I hope it catches on

Jan 20 14:08

vZS1_2

P2P is doing great. GIAFAM hate it. That's why they smear everything P2P.

Jan 20 14:08

vZS1_2

IPFS is only one form of P2P, after all.

Jan 20 14:08

vZS1_2

For alpha software, IPFS works pretty well.

Jan 20 14:09

vZS1_2

Hasn't crashed once for you

vZS1_2

BitTorrent is also doing great

vZS1_2

The goal is to get more people to use P2P.

vZS1_2

In all its forms

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/a6d825d18aaa2d1b.jpg

vZS1_2

Fight the stigma

Jan 20 14:11

vZS1_2

P2P is empowerment, in a way. People share their computing resources and data. This is the antithesis to the infrastructure monopoly that keeps GIAFAM alive.

Jan 20 14:12

vZS1_2

So individually, we might not be able to afford huge server farms, but collectively, we can still build great internet systems.

Jan 20 14:13

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Jan 20 14:17

MinceR

Jan 20 14:27

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▆▄▂▄▂▅▅▅▅▄▄▄▅▅▄▃▄▆▄▃▄▆▂▃▃▂▅▄▄▅▃▄ avg(k/sec) 20.23 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▃▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▃▂▃▃▄▃▂▂▁▄▃▃▃▂▃▂▂▂▅▁▂▃▂▃▃ avg(k/sec) 10.25 ⟲

Jan 20 14:29

MinceR

(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/3cb65e09cdf5761f.mp4

Jan 20 14:48

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Jan 20 14:58

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schestowitz__

vZS1: this is reproducible:

schestowitz__

I can now say with confidence that disabling ipfs speeds up the connection, esp. upstream (which was always more limited on ADSL/copper), but still no explanation as to why BT started capping it like that at the start of the year (days later)

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Techrights-sec

How much of the bandwidth was IPFS? I imagine not a lot.

schestowitz__

per say, 1gb up, 2gb down

schestowitz__

per day, 1gb up, 2gb down

Jan 20 15:13

Techrights-sec

That's really very little. So the capping may be retaliatory?

Jan 20 15:13

schestowitz__

that's what I was thinking. Applied all of a sudden, to a protocol with encryption and swarms.

Jan 20 15:13

Techrights-sec

With bursty throttling, perhaps they are searching for end points.

Jan 20 15:14

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Jan 20 15:15

schestowitz__

I can only make guessed. The manager was supposed to phone me... I'm still waiting and will inquire about this as there's no excuse for such a change (no capping like this before)

Jan 20 15:15

vZS1_2

I doubt they are deliberately scanning for particular protocols.

Jan 20 15:17

techrights-bot

I am starting to wonder if #BT #throttling on our connection (or capping, or periodic suspension of packets) has more to do with #surveillance (given times of day) than anything BT level. Not BT but GCHQ?

Jan 20 15:17

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: main query for them is, as before, why the sudden change?

schestowitz__

If anything, we've used LESS in the past fortnight

vZS1_2

I suspect it's just lack of capacity

schestowitz__

less videos, less sockets

vZS1_2

"load shedding"

schestowitz__

to try to 'help' the connection

schestowitz__

I've just re-enabled ipfs

schestowitz__

as the upload is finished

vZS1_2

It's done with the power grid in some countries

schestowitz__

but now my connection will sort of suck

schestowitz__

they need to phone me (management)

vZS1_2

They just cut the power otherwise there isn't enough to go around

schestowitz__

yes, there's one called GPL

vZS1_2

And it happens on a schedule

schestowitz__

in Africa

schestowitz__

I keep seeing it in news searches

schestowitz__

lots of outages there

schestowitz__

things we take for granted

vZS1_2

Yep. ISPs do it all the time

schestowitz__

the "first world problem" is, not lack of Internet but capped

vZS1_2

They just don't publicise.

schestowitz__

and it seems we might be on their "list"

vZS1_2

Customer service say "technical issues"

schestowitz__

"nothing we can do"

schestowitz__

they said it many times

schestowitz__

and later sent out two engs

schestowitz__

and a new "Smart" Hub

schestowitz__

which solved nothing at all

schestowitz__

just gave me hours of work (setup)

vZS1_2

BT are known to have vastly oversold wrt their capacity

schestowitz__

I will confront and report

schestowitz__

btw, did you say ofcon will grow fangs only in March?

schestowitz__

The page is dated March 2020, not 2021

vZS1_2

Was it?

vZS1_2

Guess I misread

vZS1_2

It does indeed say March 2020

Jan 20 15:23

vZS1_2

"From 20 March 2020, if you can’t get a download speed of 10 Mbit/s and an upload speed of 1 Mbit/s, you can request an upgraded connection. "

Jan 20 15:24

schestowitz__

So what to tell them...?

Jan 20 15:24

vZS1_2

Are you getting your 1Mb/s upload?

Jan 20 15:25

vZS1_2

and 10Mb/s download?

Jan 20 15:25

schestowitz__

No.

schestowitz__

800 something up

schestowitz__

BUT...

schestowitz__

with ipfs turned on nowhere near that

schestowitz__

maybe less than a tenth that

schestowitz__

so something clearly is going on

schestowitz__

either by all the hubs, which isn't likely, or BT, which is more likely because all that changed 2.5 weeks ago

Jan 20 15:27

schestowitz__

like they 'flipped a switch'

Jan 20 15:27

vZS1_2

Best way to monitor this is to actually analyse the bandwidth usage of your devices

vZS1_2

ipfs stats bw

vZS1_2

and every other thing you have running

schestowitz__

for the pi I assume it's just stale/inactive ssh sessions

schestowitz__

+ipfs

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▅▄▃▃▆▄▃▆▅▅▄▄▄▆▆▅▅▄▂▅▄▄▄▅▃▁▂▅▅▆▅ avg(k/sec) 20.26 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▃▃▂▂▃▃▃▃▂▂▃▂▃▂▃▂▃▄▄▃▃▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▃█▁▃▃▄ avg(k/sec) 24.75 ⟲

schestowitz__

and you say the totals are in there, in the cli

schestowitz__

so we're talking about total of no more than 3.5gb per day (up+down combined)

schestowitz__

or 100gb a month

vZS1_2

I mean more the actual Mb/s across all your active programs

vZS1_2

Well, it would be Kb/s, at your current state

schestowitz__

irc clients don't add up to much

schestowitz__

either way, in 2021 the issue would be DRMflix

schestowitz__

not stuff like SSH sessions and IRC

schestowitz__

those are live connections, but very low b/w

vZS1_2

Yeah

schestowitz__

I don't even browse the Web much

schestowitz__

I read the news as rss or in a text editor, usually kate

vZS1_2

My ipfs daemon is at 9.8kB/s in and 5.5kB/s out.

vZS1_2

That's barely anything

schestowitz__

it's about twice that at my end

schestowitz__

you can see from the irc bit

schestowitz__

*Bot

schestowitz__

anyway, I'll do another inteleaks part now

schestowitz__

knowing I can speed up the uploads

schestowitz__

rianne says...

schestowitz__

Monday morning

schestowitz__

when it started

schestowitz__

4th of January I think

schestowitz__

the lockdown was announced

schestowitz__

after the weekend

schestowitz__

new year, new brexit, new lockdown

schestowitz__

and I suppose BT did something

schestowitz__

around 8am Monday

CrystalMath

well

CrystalMath

the lockdown preduces a HUGE stress on the ISPs

schestowitz__

"they throttled it because they cannot meet the demend"

schestowitz__

"student connections"

CrystalMath

the stress is yuge so they throttled it bigly

schestowitz__

"there's office now... that's more traffic.. . conferences... BT is going to explode... so they throttle 'small house'... I don't know how they select"

schestowitz__

(quoting rianne)

schestowitz__

we are a "low priority"

schestowitz__

unless I told them I'm depositing an ofcom complaint

CrystalMath

so much for net neutrality

schestowitz__

then it was immediately escalated to "Executive Team"

schestowitz__

and they phones ME, not me chasing THEM

vZS1_2

Just go ahead and file the Ofcom complaint, if it keeps going on.

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: well, we need to expose all this

schestowitz__

and report

vZS1_2

They have to meet the minimal contractual agreement, or you get a refund.

schestowitz__

I will keep asking them for admissions

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: I got a refund only for this month

schestowitz__

and a new hub

schestowitz__

which i did not ask for

schestowitz__

I opposed it, saying it would be total waste of time

Jan 20 15:37

DaemonFC[m]

An hour and a half until Trump isn't the president anymore.

Jan 20 15:37

schestowitz__

yay

Jan 20 15:37

schestowitz__

I mentioned this in the latest post

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: let's lobby and push on this issue

CrystalMath

i miss Trump, specifically his first year

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: I will bring that overt to TR soon

schestowitz__

we can do a good series, I have plenty of notes and matrial

schestowitz__

something about lockdowns and IPS obligations

schestowitz__

*ISP

vZS1_2

Sounds like a plan

Jan 20 15:39

schestowitz__

thanks

Jan 20 15:39

schestowitz__

"we have the banks... the gov... Paul Scholes... David Beckham... and a bunch of 'chavs' in Manc"

schestowitz__

"who to slow down?"

CrystalMath

no matter how much i try to make Biden funny, it doesn't really work

schestowitz__

and so we end up with class system for packets

schestowitz__

and they still charge people.... for less

CrystalMath

he has some of that Reagan-like dementia charm

schestowitz__

brb

Jan 20 15:41

CrystalMath

send a text to the word united

Jan 20 15:41

CrystalMath

idk, to me hate just can't be funny, and all the hate against white working class americans just makes me sad

Jan 20 15:42

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: useful to display number of peers (average swarm side) in the bot?

Jan 20 15:43

vZS1_2

Depends. Doesn't really make much sense, unless you know what they're doing.

Jan 20 15:43

CrystalMath

Trump was fun because he was a populist, he appealed to the people

CrystalMath

Biden just doesn't have that, he only appeals to large corporations

CrystalMath

it's really sad

techrights-bot

"Although inauguration day is not a nationwide federal holiday, it is a holiday for non-essential federal employees who work in the Washington DC Area." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/inauguration-day.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Inauguration Day | Patently-O

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/aa787fa2f042acd9.jpg

CrystalMath

ofc populism has its downsides

Jan 20 15:45

techrights-bot

CentOS is gone—but #RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

Jan 20 15:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 15:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Jan 20 15:48

techrights-bot

Jan 20 15:50

techrights-bot

Having just uploaded this introductory video, we delve into the backstory or the real reason the #FSF sank into somewhat of a crisis with the #trans community almost half a decade ago http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/fsf-secrecy/ #freesw #transparency

Jan 20 15:51

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Jan 20 16:29

MinceR

Jan 20 16:43

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techrights-bot

Getting to know Kyeong Sang Kim, #RedHat general manager for Korea • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146677 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #IBM

Jan 20 16:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting to know Kyeong Sang Kim, Red Hat general manager for Korea | Tux Machines

Jan 20 16:48

techrights-bot

#LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 Is Available For Testing • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146678 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

Jan 20 16:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 Is Available For Testing | Tux Machines

Jan 20 16:50

techrights-bot

A farewell to #SabayonLinux • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146679 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gentoo

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A farewell to Sabayon Linux | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146680 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

Phoned #BT midday to request urgent callback. Had to wait for half an hour to do just that. And they never got back to me. Awful service, bad service too. False promises.

Jan 20 16:52

techrights-bot

#Ubuntu Now Runs on Apple [sic] Silicon... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27862

Jan 20 16:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines

Jan 20 16:54

techrights-bot

#RedHat introduces free #RHEL for small production workloads http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27863 #ibm #monopoly

Jan 20 16:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 16:56

techrights-bot

"A string of pseudo-populist conservative movements have reverted to the same agenda of tax cuts and deregulation." https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/the-not-so-strange-death-of-right-populism

Jan 20 17:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dissentmagazine.org | The Not-So-Strange Death of Right Populism | Dissent Magazine

Jan 20 17:20

MinceR

that has yet to happen here

Jan 20 17:20

schestowitz__

populist

Jan 20 17:21

schestowitz__

someone here says Trump is populist

Jan 20 17:21

schestowitz__

very populist tax breaks for oligarchs

Jan 20 17:22

schestowitz__

populist attacks on USPS

Jan 20 17:22

schestowitz__

how very populist

Jan 20 17:22

MinceR

that works in uhmerica

Jan 20 17:25

MinceR

"the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires"

Jan 20 17:25

techrights-ipfs

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Jan 20 17:29

techrights-bot

This is great. #BT has just phoned back, belatedly. I got a manager from the "Executive Team" to openly admit (albeit begrudgingly and hesitantly) that because many people now work from home they're overrun by requests. She now escalates to "wholesale" to review "caps" on our line.

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: ^^^^^

https://explosm.net/comics/529/

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)

MinceR

it only took BT a year to notice that people are working from home a lot more?

Jan 20 17:35

Techrights-sec

Keep ratcheting up

Jan 20 17:35

schestowitz__

MinceR: exactly

Jan 20 17:35

MinceR

then again, digi (aka RDS) apparently had issues with the same

Jan 20 17:36

MinceR

sometimes it still slows down to a crawl

Jan 20 17:36

Techrights-sec

They were probably betting they could get by indefinitely without expanding.

schestowitz__

It's a lot cheaper... until the public becomes aware, complains, and there's a little scandal about "strong and stable" Brexit Telecom

MinceR

that's what humans believe in general

MinceR

exponential expansion under finite resources

techrights-bot

TIL: you can get #BT to admit it cannot cope with #COVID19 (lockdown) Net traffic levels. They're not expanding the infra. It's a lot cheaper... until the public becomes aware, complains, and there's a little scandal about "strong and stable" Brexit Telecom

Jan 20 17:39

techrights-bot

In March 2020 (start of #covid19 lockdown in #uk nationwide) #ofcom set standards for #internet speeds. #bt has not been keeping up with/to standards and regulations.

Jan 20 17:40

schestowitz__

MinceR: hard to even make voip calls

schestowitz__

in 2021

schestowitz__

virtually impossible if we run thw 'wrong thing

schestowitz__

like ipfs

https://explosm.net/comics/531/

techrights-bot

"Perhaps though, the time is ripe to check out Godot Engine since it's free and open source." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/yoyo-games-developer-of-gamemaker-studio-sold-for-10m

Jan 20 17:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YoYo Games developer of GameMaker Studio sold for $10M (updated) | GamingOnLinux

Jan 20 17:50

MinceR

there are plenty of free game engines

Jan 20 17:52

MinceR

like cube, cube2 and its derivatives, various id engines and their derivatives (including darkplaces and daemon)

Jan 20 17:52

techrights-bot

"In our Innards section, we talk about the first 24 hours with #LinuxMint 20.1" https://mintcast.org/2021/01/20/mintcast-352-5-one-night-with-ulyssa/ #gnu #linux

Jan 20 17:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | mintCast 352.5 – One Night with Ulyssa – mintCast

Jan 20 17:54

techrights-bot

#InteLeaks – Part XXIII: Intel Paying for Bogus ‘Research’ ‘Insights’ Which Merely Seek to Justify #Outsourcing to #Microsoft and Imposing Microsoft’s #ProprietarySoftware on #FreeSoftware Developers http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/killing-gitlab-for-microsoft/

Jan 20 18:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XXIII: Intel Paying for Bogus ‘Research’ ‘Insights’ Which Merely Seek to Justify Outsourcing to Microsoft and Imposing Microsoft’s Proprietary Software on Free Software Developers | Techrights

Jan 20 18:10

techrights-bot

In 2021 we began publishing insider material from Intel, exposing some of the rot and the deception/distortion of public record. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks #intel #leaks #gnu #linux #deletegithub

Jan 20 18:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights

Jan 20 18:12

techrights-bot

Public – Like · Comment

Jan 20 18:14

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MinceR

Jan 20 18:28

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Jan 20 18:43

vZS1

Had a strong feeling it was "load shedding" by BT.

Jan 20 18:52

vZS1

Because that's far more plausible than the alternatives

Jan 20 18:53

MinceR

(cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/XlH1yRi.mp4

Jan 20 18:54

Ariadne

well, there is virgin as an alternative, but cable isn't much better than dsl

Jan 20 18:56

vZS1

“she leaked that the FSF, in the 2000s, rejected a transgender woman from getting a job there on the grounds that she is “ugly, and would upset the rest of the employees” (paraphrased).

Jan 20 19:02

vZS1

schestowitz__: too many quotes

Jan 20 19:02

vZS1

s/"she/she/

Jan 20 19:03

vZS1

It would be interesting to know exactly how that decision got approval in the first place

Jan 20 19:04

vZS1

Do they have 12-year-olds making hiring decisions at the FSF?

Jan 20 19:05

DaemonFC[m]

If the United States was many other countries in the world, Donald Trump wouldn't be swiftly thrown out of office for his assault on our constitutional form of government.

Jan 20 19:16

DaemonFC[m]

He would have suspended the constitution, and rewritten it, and never left.

Jan 20 19:16

DaemonFC[m]

4 years is bad, but many countries get one really bad guy and they're finished. He never does leave. The entire country is corrupted by one man, forever.

Jan 20 19:17

DaemonFC[m]

A bad president can do a lot of damage. He's powerful. But everything does come to an end.

Jan 20 19:18

DaemonFC[m]

4 years was intended to give the voters a chance to decide if they wanted to let the president cement their agenda. In the case of Trump, he didn't get the entire thing done. Much of it fell apart while he was still in office due to severe administrative incompetence and a willingness to not follow the basic legal framework for making regulations.

Jan 20 19:19

DaemonFC[m]

Yet more of it will be undone over the next 4 years, including over a dozen major pieces of it today alone.

Jan 20 19:20

DaemonFC[m]

President Biden has targeted over a dozen major visible Trump agenda items that will be terminated today to show that there's a new sheriff in town. Including that illegal "national emergency" that stole money from VA hospitals and stuff to build shoddy border fencing.

Jan 20 19:21

DaemonFC[m]

It was called "Imperial behavior" because that's exactly what it was.

Jan 20 19:21

DaemonFC[m]

Congress needs to pass immediate reforms that stop future presidents from behaving in this manner. I don't think that Joe Biden plans to thumb his nose at Congress and govern with fake national emergencies much anyway, so it may be reformed.

Jan 20 19:22

DaemonFC[m]

Even with more Republicans, Congress wasn't happy at all about that "emergency". Both chambers passed disapproval legislation (which Trump vetoed). They had majorities to terminate it, but not veto-proof majorities.

Jan 20 19:23

DaemonFC[m]

The whole thing shined a spotlight on how ridiculous the emergency law is. Illegal immigration drops to a 50 year low. "EMERGENCY EMERGENCY!!! STEAL MONEY FROM VETERANS' HOSPITALS!".

Jan 20 19:24

DaemonFC[m]

I really do think new legislation is coming on this. Post-Watergate, Congress passed many laws to deal with the behavior that Richard Nixon displayed. I think there will be post-Trump legislation that increases the power of Congress.

Jan 20 19:26

DaemonFC[m]

It's not as hard to pass those laws as you'd think in times like this, because both parties see it as a potential check on the other one.

Jan 20 19:26

DaemonFC[m]

If there can be a national emergency on the border wall, there can be one on the climate, or healthcare, or anything else. Allowing the president to upend an entire system and legislate from the White House.

Jan 20 19:27

vZS1

Apart from the fact that sleepy Joe is a plutocrat

Jan 20 19:28

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Jan 20 19:29

vZS1

https://theintercept.com/2021/01/18/biden-big-tech-antitrust-renata-hesse/

Jan 20 19:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Big Tech Critics Alarmed at Direction of Biden Antitrust Personnel

Jan 20 19:33

DaemonFC[m]

<vZS1 "Apart from the fact that sleepy "> "Sleepy Joe" didn't really stick.

Jan 20 19:35

vZS1

*shrug*

Jan 20 19:36

DaemonFC[m]

Trump had a difficult time coming up with any sort of attacks that stuck, because no matter what he could have cooked up, Trump was dirtier and it would have brought up his own misconduct at the same time.

Jan 20 19:36

DaemonFC[m]

With much more credible women (multiple) saying he sexually assaulted them.

Jan 20 19:36

vZS1

You can get away with it as long as you don't expose the surveillance and espionage state

Jan 20 19:37

vZS1

Pardoning war criminals helps too

Jan 20 19:38

vZS1

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-blackwater-pardons-iraq-shooting-b1778052.html

Jan 20 19:41

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Trump pardons Blackwater contractors jailed for massacring civilians in Iraq | The Independent

Jan 20 19:41

DaemonFC[m]

He never pardoned Julian Assange though.

Jan 20 19:46

DaemonFC[m]

Did he?

Jan 20 19:46

Ariadne

Jan 20 19:46

DaemonFC[m]

Nobody is going to. Sucks to be him. He was a Russian pawn to destabilize our country and all he gets is a life of trying to dodge arrest that will happen eventually.

Jan 20 19:48

DaemonFC[m]

From trying to sneak out of the Ecuadorian embassy in some luggage to a British jail where he'll eventually be turned over.

Jan 20 19:50

DaemonFC[m]

He's being held on remand and even if they do let him out (they won't) they're going to hold onto his passport.

Jan 20 19:50

DaemonFC[m]

Fighting extradition just gives him more time in prison.

Jan 20 19:51

DaemonFC[m]

The appeals court is going to overturn the trial judge.

Jan 20 19:51

DaemonFC[m]

The ruling that he may attempt suicide in an American prison is legally ridiculous.

Jan 20 19:52

DaemonFC[m]

Anyone may try to commit suicide in any prison. What are we going to do? Not send anyone to prison because of that?

Jan 20 19:52

DaemonFC[m]

This is what you get in the UK too apparently. Judges making rulings up with no legal underpinnings.

Jan 20 19:54

vZS1

Clearly, exposing war crimes and evidence of destabilising of other countries is worse than massacring civilians.

Jan 20 19:54

DaemonFC[m]

I doubt prison in the UK is so much better that a suicidal person wouldn't do it there.

Jan 20 19:55

DaemonFC[m]

They'd just wait until they were in an American one. Oh, that judge is really clever....

Jan 20 19:56

DaemonFC[m]

I don't know why people are shocked that Epstein killed himself in prison.

Jan 20 19:58

DaemonFC[m]

Girls he raped are still suing his estate. Absolutely no difference on the legal front vs. if he was still alive.

Jan 20 19:59

DaemonFC[m]

You're poor and do that to a 13 year old, you're branded. You'll never work or have an apartment again even if they ever do let you out of prison.

Jan 20 19:59

DaemonFC[m]

If you're rich, it's a matter of how much money makes it go away. It's civil law.

Jan 20 19:59

DaemonFC[m]

They finally put him in prison almost two decades after everyone around him knew he should have been there.

Jan 20 20:00

DaemonFC[m]

Even at that, he's a rarity among rich sex offenders in that it ever happened.

Jan 20 20:01

techrights-bot

Intel’s preference for #Microsoft #monopoly (an imposed/top-down decision) was seemingly certified by so-called ‘consultants’ and ‘analysts’ from the outside rather than the inside, basically manufacturing a false perception of consent after managers had already made up their minds http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/killing-gitlab-for-microsoft/

Jan 20 20:13

CrystalMath

i'm really disappointed that Trump didn't pardon Assange

Jan 20 20:15

techrights-bot

<p>Last week, I explained my thoughts on why the Parler takedown from AWS didn't bother me that much -- considering that there were many other cloud and webhosting solutions out there. Yet Parler has quickly discovered that many other providers aren't interested in hosting the company's cesspool of garbage content either. As I pointed out, at some point, some element of that has to be on Parler for attracting such an

Jan 20 20:16

techrights-bot

He will be sleepy on antimonopoly https://theintercept.com/2021/01/18/biden-big-tech-antitrust-renata-hesse/

Jan 20 20:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Big Tech Critics Alarmed at Direction of Biden Antitrust Personnel

Jan 20 20:16

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Jan 20 20:20

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Jan 20 20:20

schestowitz__

[19:02] <vZS1> schestowitz__: too many quotes

Jan 20 20:22

schestowitz__

Fixed

Jan 20 20:22

techrights-bot

From private sector into a judge... :/ https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/uk-high-court-appoints-james-mellor-as-ip-specialist-judge/

Jan 20 20:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | UK High Court appoints James Mellor as IP-specialist judge - JUVE Patent

Jan 20 20:25

techrights-bot

#upc is an enemy of #democracy and #teamUPC is a bunch of seditious fanatics looking to profit from #patentTrolls and #litgation chaos http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/20/the-upc-and-democracy/

Jan 20 20:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The UPC and Democracy - Kluwer Patent Blog

Jan 20 20:26

schestowitz__

All Hands on Deck: Ensuring Innovation, Not Just #Patents , From All https://www.patentprogress.org/2021/01/20/all-hands-on-deck-ensuring-innovation-not-just-patents-from-all/ by Josh Landau of #ccia

Jan 20 20:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentprogress.org | All Hands on Deck: Ensuring Innovation, Not Just Patents, From All - Patent Progress

Jan 20 20:28

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▅▅▅▅▇▇▄▂▄▆▃▆▃▄▅▅▆▇▅▅▃▄▇▂▃▄▄▅▄▆▃▄▃▄ avg(k/sec) 22.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▄▅▂▄▅▄▅▄▅▂▃▄▁▂▂▃▂▅▅▅▄▄▁▂▄▃▂▂▂▂▃▃▂▁▂▃▄ avg(k/sec) 12.53 ⟲

Jan 20 20:29

vZS1_2

schestowitz__: These "techrights-bot" messages would do well as RSS items for TR.

Jan 20 20:29

techrights-bot

Hugely corrupt #epo seems to be putting #litigation ahead of #science again... the Office got hijacked by a cabal of criminals who merely serve #patent maximalists https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210120.html

Jan 20 20:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO and CIPO make their PPH fast-track programme permanent

Jan 20 20:30

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: for something so short?

Jan 20 20:31

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: you can already get that as RSS

Jan 20 20:31

schestowitz__

https://joindiaspora.com/public/schestowitz.atom

Jan 20 20:32

vZS1_2

These are the kinds of things I expect TR to keep me up-to-date about.

Jan 20 20:32

vZS1_2

So being short doesn't matter. I can just look up further.

Jan 20 20:32

techrights-bot

"Some clients may not be concerned about the fact that VICOs reduces the effectiveness of their representative's oral submissions to the EPO (and hence potentially reduces the persuasiveness of their oral arguments)" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611149975537#c4305224231689360185

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat

vZS1_2

Thanks for the URL.

vZS1_2

Still recommend putting it into TR. Readers will have interest as it's OT.

vZS1_2

(On Topic)

techrights-bot

There is no patent attorney who understands the invention, the literature, and the underlying scientific complexities better than the inventor. There is no patent attorney who knows the commercial situation better than the applicant.

Jan 20 20:34

vZS1_2

Perhaps as a separate feed though, to make sure TR's own pieces don't get mixed up.

Jan 20 20:34

vZS1_2

Otherwise you might end up losing people because of the sheer volume

Jan 20 20:34

techrights-bot

Iancu Says Goodbye, Urges Commitment to ‘American Innovation Renaissance’

Jan 20 20:35

techrights-bot

The New Humanitarian | Rethinking Humanitarianism podcast: Aid’s climate challenge ⇨ https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/podcast/2021/1/20/rethinking-humanitarianism-climate-change •●• #thenewhumanitarian

Jan 20 20:36

vZS1_2

Separate from the TR "originals" and TuxMachines.

Jan 20 20:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Rethinking Humanitarianism podcast: Aid’s climate challenge

Jan 20 20:36

vZS1_2

I just noticed you have TM posts in the diaspora feed as well.

Jan 20 20:37

techrights-bot

"emerging issues that are likely to drive new humanitarian needs... This list is informed by our reporting from humanitarian hotspots around the globe — more than 70 countries in 2020" https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/feature/2021/01/20/ten-humanitarian-crises-trends-to-watch

Jan 20 20:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Ten humanitarian crises and trends to watch in 2021

Jan 20 20:37

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Jan 20 20:40

techrights-bot

#iancu did not "resign" per se; he evacuated or he pressed the ejection button of his plane, knowing #biden (and team) would sack his arse because he was a #trump -installed mole for bad people and #litigation profiteers http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu

Jan 20 20:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights

Jan 20 20:40

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Jan 20 20:42

techrights-bot

"For a company as big as Valve (and the likes of ZeniMax), they won't be losing any sleep over fines that for them will most likely be a drop in the ocean." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/valve-and-others-fined-by-the-european-commission-for-geo-blocking

Jan 20 20:44

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve and others fined by the European Commission for 'geo-blocking' | GamingOnLinux

Jan 20 20:44

techrights-bot

"Plenty of communication breakdowns, shouting and laughing all bundled in together" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/play-the-charming-co-op-construction-game-unrailed-free-for-a-few-days-plus-big-sale

Jan 20 20:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Play the charming co-op construction game Unrailed! free for a few days plus big sale | GamingOnLinux

Jan 20 20:46

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz__: Trump didn't pardon any of those nuts from the 6th.

Jan 20 20:50

DaemonFC[m]

Not even Insurrection Karen, the realtor from Texas who flew in on a private jet.

Jan 20 20:50

techrights-bot

Games: GameMaker Studio, #Aveliana and More • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146681 •●• #GNU #Linux #Games

Jan 20 20:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GameMaker Studio, Aveliana and More | Tux Machines

Jan 20 20:51

schestowitz__

DaemonFC[m]: don't just tell me... :)

Jan 20 20:51

schestowitz__

[20:33] <vZS1_2> Thanks for the URL.

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

thanks for the suggestion

schestowitz__

making another RSS feed for it, locally hosted, would not offer anything not already in joindiapora, I think

schestowitz__

I just had a 2-hour nap, trying to catch up with news

https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2021/01/20/a-new-hope/

schestowitz__

the videos take longer to make than I originally estimated, but I will improve the workflow over time. Right now I can make almost a video per post and storage is not an issue. I can imagine uploads would be capped uk-wide now, not only us

Jan 20 20:53

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Jan 20 20:56

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Jan 20 20:58

vZS1_2

Sleepy Joe already got 1 big celebrity endoresement from George R. R. Martin.

Jan 20 21:00

vZS1_2

s/endoresement/endorsement/

Jan 20 21:00

vZS1_2

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-georgerrmartin.com | A New Hope | Not a Blog

techrights-bot

Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146683 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

vZS1_2

"He said all the right things."

Jan 20 21:02

vZS1_2

Appointing big tech shill to a leading anti(trust/monopoly) post.

vZS1_2

It's okey guys. He said all the right things!

vZS1_2

Disappointed by GRRM.

MinceR

maybe his expectations were low to begin with :>

psydroid

his war-mongering words were all the right things?

Jan 20 21:04

psydroid

in that case, yes, he did

Jan 20 21:04

vZS1_2

GRRM has been hard on Cheeto Hitler buy soft on Sleepy Joe.

Jan 20 21:05

vZS1_2

s/buy/but/

Jan 20 21:05

DaemonFC[m]

I think we should go back to castration for most sex offenders if they want out on parole.

Jan 20 21:05

DaemonFC[m]

You let them out, they're still a pervert. They hurt more people.

vZS1_2

"But if anyone can solve them, I think it is Biden. He is experienced, intelligent, and above all compassionate."

techrights-bot

Links 20/1/2021: #LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 and the #RHEL Contingency • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/rhel-contingency/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/1/2021: LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 and the RHEL Contingency | Techrights

vZS1_2

Compassionate, as long as you are commiting war crimes for his buddies. Expose any of it and you're a "high-tech terrorist".

schestowitz__

I think we can all agree that on ISSUES WE COVER (TR) Biden is the lesser evil (than Trump)

DaemonFC[m]

It's great to hear the crowd shout Madam Vice-President. After Trump's administration was 86% men and 90% white. It didn't look like America at all. It was almost as white as a Klan meeting, and there were no important jobs that women or non-white men got.

schestowitz__

so today we sort of face lesser challenges

DaemonFC[m]

Ben Carson spent four years at HUD specifically to do nothing for people who needed housing and give Trump a token black man to point at.

schestowitz__

In terms of antitrust, Biden is as troublesome http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights

vZS1_2

"It was almost as white as a Klan meeting" that's because a lot of them are probably Klansmen/sympathisers

schestowitz__

too many tech companies in this admin, and only big tech companies

DaemonFC[m]

Worse than nothing. Spent so much redoing his office furniture that it could have been housing vouchers for 50 low income families for an entire year.

Jan 20 21:09

DaemonFC[m]

Nothing wrong with the old furniture. He just wanted different furniture in his HUD office, where he did nothing to help people with housing. Out of all the agencies that got sabotaged, HUD was perhaps the worst.

Jan 20 21:09

DaemonFC[m]

You had a black guy running HUD and figuring out ways to deny housing to other black people.

Jan 20 21:10

vZS1_2

The USA is so satisfied with "not Trump" that sleepy Joe can get away with selling off more of the public to the highest bidder.

Jan 20 21:10

DaemonFC[m]

HUD serves cities, while a lesser known and better funded program called USDA Rural Development Rent Subsidies serves poor white people in rural areas.

Jan 20 21:10

DaemonFC[m]

It's like segregated drinking fountains for housing assistance, and the HUD ones don't even work.

Jan 20 21:11

vZS1_2

DMCA, UPA nonsense is likely to get a lot worse under Biden. Also let's not forget Biden was VP during the litigation that loved to cite the Espionage Act against journalists.

Jan 20 21:12

vZS1_2

Journalist = "High-tech terrorist"

Jan 20 21:12

techrights-bot

Today in #Techrights • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146685 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 21:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

Jan 20 21:13

vZS1_2

Biden is an enemy of everything TR stands for.

Jan 20 21:14

DaemonFC[m]

The president is "king-like" but only for a time, and not quite as powerful.

DaemonFC[m]

Some of the same legal concepts apply.

techrights-bot

#Linux on the #Apple #M1 takes another step closer with #Ubuntu working thanks to Corellium http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27867

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines

vZS1_2

s/UPA/UPC/

Jan 20 21:18

techrights-bot

Extensions in #Firefox for #Android Update • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146684 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 21:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Extensions in Firefox for Android Update | Tux Machines

Jan 20 21:18

techrights-bot

#LinuxMint 20.1 is a desktop anyone can love • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146682 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

Jan 20 21:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.1 is a desktop anyone can love | Tux Machines

Jan 20 21:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Jan 20 21:20

schestowitz__

[21:14] <vZS1_2> Biden is an enemy of everything TR stands for.

schestowitz__

Trump more so!

schestowitz__

That's why I used relativism

vZS1_2

They're both terrible

schestowitz__

yes

vZS1_2

One pushed things so far to the right that people are jubilant with another plotocrat slightly less to the right

http://techrights.org/2020/11/10/biden-shifted-to-the-right/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shifted… to the Right | Techrights

http://techrights.org/2020/11/26/biden-transition-team/

schestowitz__

http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/the-pardon-train/

schestowitz__

http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/biden-riaa-and-mpaa/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Trump is Out. Now It’s Time to Pressure the Biden Administration/Transition Team on Software Freedom Issues. | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | But at Least He’s Not Donald Trump or George Bush… | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just for the Record(ing Industry): Joe Biden is an Enemy of Freedom and of Software Freedom | Techrights

http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/assange-in-the-eyes-of-biden/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Joe Biden (or Vice President at the Time): Journalists Are Like Terrorists Who ‘Conspire’ If/When They Expose US War Crimes and Government Corruption | Techrights

http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights

http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/biden-challenges-ahead/

schestowitz__

http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/software-freedom-reforms/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Biden Won The US Election, But the Challenges Ahead Have Only Just Begun | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Mr. Biden Emerges as Preliminary/Tentative Winner… | Techrights

http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/bribing-for-bailouts/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Already Bribing the Likely Next US President (Having Also Paid the Trump Campaign) to Ensure Microsoft Can Get Away With Crimes and Receive Bailouts from Taxpayers | Techrights

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: maybe I will do a quick video about this..

schestowitz__

or these

vZS1_2

Sounds like a good idea.

vZS1_2

People need to keep this administration under close scrutiny.

vZS1_2

Because we have Trump lite in the White House

Jan 20 21:25

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Jan 20 21:25

vZS1_2

Biden is an ICE and PRISM enabler.

http://techrights.org/2020/09/17/not-about-russia/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/06/social-control-media-misinformation/ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2020 Elections: No, It’s Not About Russia | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media Ought Not Influence Election Outcomes (But It Does, Oftentimes Based on Misinformation, No Quality Control) | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Oligarchs’ Parties Will Never Choose the Side of Software Freedom Because Free Software Cannot Bribe Officials | Techrights

DaemonFC[m]

I doubt that the patent situation will get worse. The Supreme Court was resisting the urge to do that even though Trump was pushing for worse patents.

http://techrights.org/2020/11/04/2020-election/

DaemonFC[m]

The 2008 Democratic National Convention required Silverlight to stream it.

Jan 20 21:27

schestowitz__

Jan 20 21:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2020 Election — Like 2016 Election — Serves to Show Social Control Media is Disinformation Machine, a Growing Threat to Democracies | Techrights

Jan 20 21:28

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▆▅▆▆▇▄▅▃▆▆▅▆▄▄▅▄▅▇▃▄▃▄▄▆▃▃▅▄▅▅▅▄▄ avg(k/sec) 21.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▄▂▃▂▃▂▄▂▃▃▄▄▃▄▂▃▂▄▅▃▄▂▄▃▄▃▂▄▂▅▅▃▄▄▃ avg(k/sec) 12.66 ⟲

Jan 20 21:29

vZS1_2

schestowtiz__: More of the same pattern that we've spoken about https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/africa/uganda-election-internet-intl-hnk/index.html

Jan 20 21:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uganda elections: A lesson for other authoritarians that controlling the internet works - CNN

Jan 20 21:32

vZS1_2

The USA has been propping up Museveni for decades now.

Jan 20 21:35

vZS1_2

I've seen at least half a dozen instances of countries that turn the internet off during "elections" so that people can't communicate with outsiders.

Jan 20 21:37

vZS1_2

It's a big problem because rigged systems and things like ballot stuffing can't be exposed in real-time

Jan 20 21:38

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: I will do an index of posts on this

Jan 20 21:41

schestowitz__

Not sure about wiki page though

Jan 20 21:41

techrights-bot

Recent Techrights Articles About #President #JoeBiden • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/articles-about-president-joe-biden/ •●• #Techrights

Jan 20 21:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Recent Techrights Articles About President Joe Biden | Techrights

Jan 20 21:51

techrights-bot

#RedHat Seeks to Soothe #CentOS Linux Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27868 #ibm

Jan 20 21:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 21:52

techrights-bot

#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146687 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest

Jan 20 21:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

Jan 20 21:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Jan 20 21:53

techrights-bot

#Renesas adds to RZ/G2 line with three Cortex-A55 SoCs • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146686 •●• #GNU #Linux

Jan 20 21:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Renesas adds to RZ/G2 line with three Cortex-A55 SoCs | Tux Machines

Jan 20 21:55

MinceR

https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726430.jpg

Jan 20 21:59

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Jan 20 22:15

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▇▃▅▃▃▃▆▅▂▃▅▃▄▂▇▅▆▄▃▄▄▅▅▃▆▇▅▅▅▅▇▃▆ avg(k/sec) 22.93 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▃▁▂▂▃▂▄▃▃▄▂▃▄▄▄▅▃▄▃▃▃▃▄▂▃▂▃▄▃▃▅▄▃▄ avg(k/sec) 13.26 ⟲

Jan 20 22:29

techrights-bot

Linux Foundation: "Let them eat coupons..." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146651#comment-27870 see http://techrights.org/2019/03/26/lf-define-support/ and http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: The Linux Foundation Needs to Define “Support” | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its “Support for the Black Community” | Techrights

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll

MinceR

(audio:unimportant) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/726104.mp4

Jan 20 22:40

techrights-bot

Daniel Stenberg: I've outsourced all #curl development to #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoft :/ because who needs project autonomy anyway? https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/01/20/bye-bye-svn-haxx-se/ #deletegithub

Jan 20 22:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bye bye svn.haxx.se | daniel.haxx.se

Jan 20 22:40

techrights-bot

#microsoft trolls are trolling us in #techrights #irc over #deletegithub so you know they feel the pinch ;-)

Jan 20 22:41

techrights-bot

For the second time this week a site called #linuxtechlab pushed #apple Mac crap, so you know the site is not really about "LINUX" https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-deal-with-the-most-common-mac-errors/

Jan 20 22:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Deal With the Most Common Mac Errors - LinuxTechLab

Jan 20 22:42

techrights-bot

#HowTo Generate Random Numbers in #GNU #Linux or #Unix ⇨ https://www.ultralinux.org/post/how-to-generate-random-numbers-in-unix/ •●• #ultralinux |

Jan 20 22:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ultralinux.org | How To Generate Random Numbers in Unix

Jan 20 22:43

techrights-bot

Building your own Network Monitor with #PyShark - Linux Hint ⇨ https://linuxhint.com/building-your-own-network-monitor-with-pyshark/ •●• #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux

Jan 20 22:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Building your own Network Monitor with PyShark – Linux Hint

Jan 20 22:48

techrights-bot

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146688 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jan 20 22:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

Jan 20 22:50

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#IBM Panics and Resorts to ’Customer Retention’ Tactics With #RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/rhel-and-the-centos-contingency/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux

Jan 20 22:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Panics and Resorts to ‘Customer Retention’ Tactics With Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) | Techrights

Jan 20 22:54

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Jan 20 22:55

schestowitz__

Instead of writing yet more stuff about the latest US president, let’s look back at what we wrote in recent weeks/months http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/articles-about-president-joe-biden/ #biden #politics #tech #analysis

Jan 20 22:55

techrights-bot

The @uspto is now headless after #trump mole resigns to avoid getting sacked https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/temporary-uspto-leadership.html #iancu was terrible: http://techrights.org/wiki/Andrei_Iancu

Jan 20 22:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | New (Temporary) USPTO Leadership | Patently-O

Jan 20 22:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights

Jan 20 22:57

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Jan 20 22:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights

Jan 20 22:58

techrights-bot

"Google was the most sued business" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q635qnbrhqb5/district-court-2020-rankings-top-plaintiffs-defendants-and-firms according to site funded for #propaganda of #litigation #profiteers

Jan 20 23:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | District court 2020 rankings: top plaintiffs, defendants and firms | Managing Intellectual Property

Jan 20 23:00

techrights-bot

Those are still #clinicalTrials rather than #Vaccines and this one already withdrew one experiment after many people had died https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143633/Brazil-Authorizes-OxfordAZ-and-Sinovac-Vaccines

Jan 20 23:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143633/Brazil-Authorizes-OxfordAZ-and-Sinovac-Vaccines )

Jan 20 23:01

techrights-bot

#SoftwarePatents need to die. All of them. They were never supposed to be granted in the first place as #swpats are not legal. Can #ptab finish them all off? https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/20/3000-for-cedar-lane-technologies-prior-art

Jan 20 23:02

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $3,000 for Cedar Lane Technologies Prior Art — Unified Patents

Jan 20 23:02

techrights-bot

#IBM ‘frees’ #RHEL but with limitations that can restrict growth of small companies (or subject them to financial barriers, originally unforeseen) http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/rhel-and-the-centos-contingency/ #redhat #gnu #linux

Jan 20 23:03

techrights-bot

Apachetop says #techrights traffic was 8TB in the past 2 weeks. It's an all-time high.

Jan 20 23:04

techrights-bot

#Deskreen needs to #deletegithub because it's #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly of ANTI-Free software #microsoft https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/01/deskreen-makes-any-device-with-web.html

Jan 20 23:05

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Deskreen Makes Any Device With A Web Browser A Second Screen For Your Computer - Linux Uprising Blog

Jan 20 23:05

kingoffrance

its funny how x gets reinvented

Jan 20 23:08

techrights-bot

#Krita 4.4.2 Released With Over 300 Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146636#comment-27871 #kde #gnu #linux

Jan 20 23:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4.4.2 Released | Tux Machines

Jan 20 23:08

techrights-bot

" #Standards are boring. Satisfied users may not want to migrate to other boards the market tries to sell them." https://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2021/01/20/standards-are-boring/

Jan 20 23:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl | Standards are boring – Marcin Juszkiewicz

Jan 20 23:11

techrights-bot

Too many #apple hipsters at #mozilla ? https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/01/porting-firefox-to-apple-silicon/

Jan 20 23:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog

Jan 20 23:12

techrights-bot

#qt6 is #ProprietarySoftware (as per release plan), so better stay at #qt 5 and maybe wait for a proper #freesw fork with LTS too? https://www.kdab.com/getting-your-3d-ready-for-qt-6/

Jan 20 23:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting your 3D ready for Qt 6 - KDAB - KDAB on Qt

Jan 20 23:13

techrights-bot

"Amid all the conversation about Signal, and the debate over decentralization, one thing has often not been raised: all of these things require an Internet connection." https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10205-roundup-of-secure-messengers-with-off-the-grid-capabilities-distributed-mesh-messengers

Jan 20 23:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Roundup of Secure Messengers with Off-The-Grid Capabilities (Distributed/Mesh Messengers) | The Changelog

Jan 20 23:14

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Jan 20 23:15

MinceR

better switch to a less horribly bloated toolkit from qt (and gtk)

Jan 20 23:15

schestowitz__

MinceR: I have used both

schestowitz__

as a developer

schestowitz__

I would not again

MinceR

so have i

schestowitz__

because of maintenance

schestowitz__

you write a progra

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it works

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it compiled

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on your system

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once upon a time

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then came a new version

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so you needed to rewrite

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again

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and again

schestowitz__

same for php and python

schestowitz__

but worse with those toolkits

vZS1_2

This is why I like C. At least it's stable.

schestowitz__

in qt's case, even the license is changing

vZS1_2

Bash as well

vZS1_2

Very stable

schestowitz__

so you may not be able to run your program again without major code rewrites

schestowitz__

and that never ends

psydroid

I never even started

schestowitz__

even your binary dynamically or statically linked would no longer run

vZS1_2

More people should program in GNU Bash. It's a great glue language.

schestowitz__

it is

schestowitz__

I favour it because my old programs still work

vZS1_2

It's my favourite programming language

vZS1_2

Because it works

vZS1_2

It's reliable

vZS1_2

It's stable

schestowitz__

it has just changed much since the 80s or maybe 70s if the unix one is still there

MinceR

i prefer python and lisp

vZS1_2

And Bash actually enhances UNIX philosophy. It's built to work with files, at its core.

https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726058.jpg

MinceR

Jan 20 23:21

vZS1_2

There's a great advantage to programming with your shell

Jan 20 23:21

MinceR

(and yet the last program i wrote was in bash)

Jan 20 23:21

techrights-bot

OMG LOL. Shilling 'only' £209.99 (from Bezos) something you could get for like a TENTH that price https://popey.com/blog/2021/01/xiaomi-redmi-airdots-s-review/

Jan 20 23:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Xiaomi Redmi AirDots S Review ·

Jan 20 23:22

vZS1_2

"|", ">", "<", ">>", "<()", ">()". These things are all amazing for "modular" programming

vZS1_2

Building complex tools out of simple ones

techrights-bot

Learn #JavaScript by writing a guessing game | ⇨ https://opensource.com/article/21/1/learn-javascript •●• #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #programming

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Learn JavaScript by writing a guessing game | Opensource.com

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#qt is becoming #ProprietarySoftware (again) and combining it with prisoner-of- #microsoft #rustlang is not a good plan for #kde (IMHO) https://carlschwan.eu/2021/01/20/efficient-custom-shapes-in-qtquick-with-rust/

Jan 20 23:24

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-carlschwan.eu | Efficient custom shapes in QtQuick with Rust

Jan 20 23:24

vZS1_2

Composability is the superior way to program

Jan 20 23:25

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Jan 20 23:25

techrights-bot

New release: #VLC 3.0.12 #Vetinari - VideoLAN ⇨ https://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/3.0.12.html •●• #videolan

Jan 20 23:26

vZS1_2

That's why the hyper-specialised UNIX tools are still around. And all these new ones fade in and out of obscurity; they try to do too much and fail being _great_ at anything.

Jan 20 23:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.videolan.org | VLC 3.0.12 Vetinari - VideoLAN

Jan 20 23:26

schestowitz__

will systemd still be around in 20 years?

vZS1_2

Idk

MinceR

probably not

schestowitz__

given what IBM has been doing lately, I doubt it

schestowitz__

they kill the goose

schestowitz__

for some lousy pair of balls

MinceR

maybe if Backdoors11 will be the new "Linux" and integrates systemd

techrights-bot

"It’s been a tough and stressful year for many of us, and we are all in need of some care and attention" https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/article/3118430/self-care-trends-around-world-nelson-mandelas-one-people

Jan 20 23:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | Self-care trends from around the world, from Nelson Mandela’s one-people philosophy to cow cuddling and taking a hay bath | South China Morning Post

Jan 20 23:28

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▇▅▅▅▅▇▃▆▆▃▄▄▆▃▅▄▄▅▄▅▅▆▄▄▇▄▅▆▆▅▃ avg(k/sec) 23.93 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▂▃▄▃▃▅▄▃▄▃▃▄▁▁▂▃▂▃▃▂▃▂▃▂▃▃▂▂▂▃▃▃▂ avg(k/sec) 10.86 ⟲

Jan 20 23:29

techrights-bot

#gnomefoundation Molly de Blanc: #Inauguration Pie http://deblanc.net/blog/2021/01/20/inauguration-pie/

Jan 20 23:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deblanc.net | Inauguration Pie | Life on M

Jan 20 23:29

techrights-bot

Use #RaspberryPI as FM Radio transmitter - peppe8o ⇨ https://peppe8o.com/use-raspberry-pi-as-fm-radio-transmitter/ •●• #peppe8o #gnu #linux

Jan 20 23:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Use Raspberry PI as FM Radio transmitter - peppe8o

Jan 20 23:30

techrights-bot

Arduino Blog - James Bruton demonstrates the Coanda effect with an Arduino-controlled rig ⇨ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/20/james-bruton-demonstrates-the-coanda-effect-with-an-arduino-controlled-rig/ •●• #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking

Jan 20 23:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog » James Bruton demonstrates the Coanda effect with an Arduino-controlled rig

Jan 20 23:31

techrights-bot

#Renesas RZ/G2L MPUs Feature Cortex-A55 & Cortex-M33 Cores for AI http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146686#comment-27872 "for AI applications” = #marketing rubbish. HEY HI.

Jan 20 23:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Renesas adds to RZ/G2 line with three Cortex-A55 SoCs | Tux Machines

Jan 20 23:33

techrights-bot

#ibm #redhat in action: "As many users have noticed, you cannot install all the software you want on your computer via gnome-software. This restriction has been imposed by the developer" https://rbuj.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/gnome-software-jailbreak/

Jan 20 23:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rbuj.wordpress.com | GNOME Software Jailbreak | Robert Antoni Buj Gelonch

Jan 20 23:34

techrights-bot

Roles, h'uh, what are they good for? | Jesse Shy ⇨ http://blogs.perl.org/users/jesse_shy/2021/01/roles-huh-what-are-they-good-for.html •●• #perl #programming

Jan 20 23:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roles, h'uh, what are they good for? | Jesse Shy [blogs.perl.org]

Jan 20 23:35

vZS1_2

schestowtiz__: btw, a lot of these "techrights-bot" posts are pretty off topic for being here. They should go in TM instead.

Jan 20 23:35

vZS1_2

Like Arduino and RPI blog posts. Not really about Technological Rights.

Jan 20 23:36

techrights-bot

This blog post serves to highlight how deeply entrenched and entangled #rustlang has become inside #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware trap https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/01/15/rustdoc-performance-improvements.html #deletegithub

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Rustdoc performance improvements | Inside Rust Blog

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: right, good point

schestowitz__

where do you set the threshold or relevance?

vZS1_2

Whereas this rust proprietary one is on topic. So stuff like that is the only stuff we should see here

schestowitz__

I don't post politics into here, but...

schestowitz__

OK, I will try to split apart better

vZS1_2

I don't think we need strict filter

schestowitz__

though it was never clear what fits in and what does not

vZS1_2

But some filter is required

vZS1_2

Right now we get everything from TM here too

schestowitz__

#boycott-novell has everything in it

schestowitz__

politics included

techrights-bot

#qt : we make our #freesw download a second-class citizen now https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-Open-Source-Cloud-Failure if #ProprietarySoftware comes first, then it needs forking or avoiding IMHO (I used Qt before)

Jan 20 23:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Qt Open-Source Downloads Temporarily Offline Due To Severe Hardware Failure - Phoronix

Jan 20 23:40

techrights-bot

Sergio Villar Senin: #Flexbox Cats (a.k.a fixing images in flexbox) https://blogs.igalia.com/svillar/2021/01/20/flexbox-cats-a-k-a-fixing-images-in-flexbox/ #gnome #freesw #igalia

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Flexbox Cats (a.k.a fixing images in flexbox) – Virtual Reality

CrystalMath

i think the 4 years of Trump were pretty good years

CrystalMath

the US largely left Syria and Afghanistan

MinceR

you'll get over it

techrights-bot

#Oracle #Linux 8: Containers made easy with short training videos https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/oracle-linux-8%3A-containers-made-easy-with-short-training-videos they can take advantage of #ibm being dumb about #centos

Jan 20 23:42

CrystalMath

MinceR: well i feel like rough times and angry yelling and pretty much ahead

Jan 20 23:42

*schestowitz__ won't even bother... sigh

Jan 20 23:42

CrystalMath

i think the main goal of any sane person should be to elminate america's roll as the world leader

Jan 20 23:43

CrystalMath

*role

Jan 20 23:43

CrystalMath

and we must keep on fighting to make sure that america falls from this title

Jan 20 23:43

techrights-bot

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schestowitz__

"As part of GNU, Guix aims to bring freedom to computer users all over the world, no matter the languages they (prefer to) speak." Unless they're RMS. Then you try to banish him/them, #guix https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2021/adding-translations-to-guix-website/

MinceR

yeah, russia will be so much better as world leader ...oh wait

schestowitz__

CrystalMath: on that we can agree

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MinceR: false dichotomy

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or "China"

MinceR

jyna

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let countries have it their own way

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esp. small countries

vZS1_2

There is no world leader. There are world owners

MinceR

it would be better to not have countries at all

vZS1_2

Plutocrats

schestowitz__

which are labeled "rogue" and "banana"

schestowitz__

ask the Greek

MinceR

they fuck everything up

MinceR

if you expect humanity to not fuck everything up, you aren't paying attention

schestowitz__

Evangelicals want to US to be World Ladder

CrystalMath

MinceR: i believe in local governance, so there should definitely be countries

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MinceR

i prefer more local governance

MinceR

i.e. anarchism

CrystalMath

well if that's an option

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/934/770/0e3.jpg

MinceR

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Jan 20 23:47

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Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77

Jan 20 23:47

DaemonFC[m]

Evangelicals would win every election if the Republicans weren't so stupid and corrupt that they destroy our economy if you give them a few years.

Jan 20 23:48

MinceR

but then they wouldn't be evangelicals

Jan 20 23:49

techrights-bot

#Little ee is an affordable, #openhardware current & magnetic field probe (Crowdfunding) ⇨ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/20/little-bee-affordable-open-hardware-current-magnetic-field-probe/

Jan 20 23:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Little Bee is an affordable, open hardware current & magnetic field probe (Crowdfunding)

Jan 20 23:49

DaemonFC[m]

A few of them kindly put God off to the side when they lose their own jobs, and marginally attached voters wake up for a moment and remove the president.

Jan 20 23:50

DaemonFC[m]

That's exactly what happened here.

Jan 20 23:50

schestowitz__

vZS1_2: https://www.noobslab.com/2021/01/things-to-keep-in-mind-before.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Things to Keep in Mind Before Implementing AI in Your Business - NoobsLab | Eye on Digital World

schestowitz__

do you have the HEY HIs?

schestowitz__

notice the image too

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HEY HI

DaemonFC[m]

Biden will probably win re-election. I mean, it's obviously not guaranteed, but most presidents who win once can win twice, and Democrats have only lost the popular vote once (2004) since 1988

MinceR

saying HI in the HAY?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fallon-haay.gif

MinceR

DaemonFC[m]

It's very hard to pick off an incumbent president. Even a very bad one.

MinceR

the popular vote doesn't really matter as long as the system is as broken as it is

vZS1_2

Biden's rhetoric isn't encouraging either. He talks about giving everybody "a fair shot". This whole "American dream BS".

DaemonFC[m]

The fact that Biden managed tells us just how bad things got under Trump.

vZS1_2

“That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

vZS1_2

-George Carlin

MinceR

exactly

DaemonFC[m]

MinceR: It's unusual to win the popular vote and not the electoral college.

vZS1_2

And boy are they all asleep for sleepy Joe himself.

techrights-bot

...only if you consider the journal itself to be "productivity" https://opensource.com/article/21/1/open-source-journal

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why keeping a journal improves productivity | Opensource.com

MinceR

DaemonFC[m]: and yet iirc every time that happens, a "republican" candidate wins presidency

DaemonFC[m]

It's happened a few times in hundreds of years, but twice this century.

DaemonFC[m]

Well, it's because of a realignment going on, MinceR

DaemonFC[m]

It's not going to just keep happening over and over again.

techrights-bot

Well you look different: #Apache #CloudStack 4.15 lands with new UI, improved access control S ⇨ https://devclass.com/2021/01/20/cloudstack-4_5/ •●• #devclass #freesw

Jan 20 23:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Well you look different: Apache CloudStack 4.15 lands with new UI, improved access control • DEVCLASS

Jan 20 23:54

DaemonFC[m]

Arizona and Georgia are rapidly getting to the point where they're lost to the Republicans. Wisconsin and Michigan are steaming mad about the economy and unlikely to forget soon about USMCA.

Jan 20 23:54

DaemonFC[m]

I think the time has come for Democrats to stop trying to win Florida and look to shoring up Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin.

techrights-bot

#Odroid Go Goes Super - Boiling Steam ⇨ https://boilingsteam.com/odroid-go-goes-super/ •●• #boilingsteam #games #sbc

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Odroid Go Goes Super - Boiling Steam

DaemonFC[m]

The media markets there are cheaper and it should be easier to hold.