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_I3^RELATIVISMnnonsensicalJan 24 00:00
_I3^RELATIVISMwouldnt trust that guyJan 24 00:00
psydroidDid free software need a financial incentive in its early days?Jan 24 00:00
_I3^RELATIVISMthat is diferent it is not a corporation psydroid Jan 24 00:01
psydroidIt's not about trusting him or not, he had some good points in his presentation, that's allJan 24 00:01
_I3^RELATIVISMtrueJan 24 00:01
_I3^RELATIVISMsimple lincensing is importantJan 24 00:01
_I3^RELATIVISMI think would be smart to try to push creative commons to do soJan 24 00:02
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_I3^RELATIVISMthere have been some openess to it in the pastJan 24 00:02
_I3^RELATIVISMsimilar to the cern licenses structurJan 24 00:02
psydroidYes, but is free software about corporations first? I thought they only came around when they sensed money could be made from it and look what it got us toJan 24 00:03
_I3^RELATIVISM?Jan 24 00:03
_I3^RELATIVISManyway Jan 24 00:03
_I3^RELATIVISMAdd dual licensing scheme GPLv3 fork under crative commons software plus apache licensedor MIT under a fee /watch?v=vTsc1m78BUkJan 24 00:03
_I3^RELATIVISMA strongly-reciprocal variant, CC-S-S. A weakly-reciprocal variant, CC-S-W. A permissive variant, CC-S-P.Jan 24 00:03
_I3^RELATIVISMthe later to would be paid forJan 24 00:03
_I3^RELATIVISMalso goes well with an idea I started writing about yesterday mostlyJan 24 00:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GVRN/GVRNspec - GVRNspec - LibreGitJan 24 00:04
_I3^RELATIVISM<_I3^RELATIVISM "?"> you probably misunderstood my messages psydroid Jan 24 00:05
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psydroidProbably because it's not always clear what you are sayingJan 24 00:07
_I3^RELATIVISMnot everyone was born in a english golden basketJan 24 00:07
_I3^RELATIVISMso such entitlement is defenately not helpfullJan 24 00:08
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_I3^RELATIVISMin other words english is not my native languageJan 24 00:08
psydroidMaybe you could try to explain what you meant in another language you could more easily express yourself inJan 24 00:09
GNUmoonschestowitz__: Google is blackmailing Australia as they are threatening their entire business model (i.e. surveillance capitalism) with legislation that would force google to pay the media corporations for news content.Jan 24 00:10
GNUmoon 24 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Google threatens to shut down search in Australia if digital news code goes ahead | Australian media | The GuardianJan 24 00:10
schestowitz__GNUmoon: yes, I sawJan 24 00:11
schestowitz__it's in latest techrgihts Daily Links, tooJan 24 00:11
schestowitz__The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 โ€ข ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†„๐Ÿ†‡ ๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ†‚ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Index of /2021/01/24/Jan 24 00:11
schestowitz__oopsJan 24 00:11
schestowitz__wrong pasteJan 24 00:11
schestowitz__ 24 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Memo to Google and Facebook: please pack your bags and goJan 24 00:11
GNUmoonahh okay, I just saw it myself :)Jan 24 00:11
schestowitz__in the bill gates-funded 'guardian' :-)Jan 24 00:20
schestowitz__They always love going after "GAFA"Jan 24 00:20
vZS1GNU and Linux would not exist without GPL. We need AGPLV3 to deal with the clown problem.Jan 24 00:24
vZS1You need to make sure people can't just run away with your work without at least acknowledging that it's a derivativeJan 24 00:25
vZS1Complexity of the license is necessary because the law is complicated.Jan 24 00:25
schestowitz__and clowns are disingenuous Jan 24 00:26
vZS1GNU should relicense everything to AGPLV3Jan 24 00:27
vZS1I've noticed that a lot of F-Droid programs are AGPLV3. They get it as mobile developers. People can't put their code in the clown and not give anything back to them.Jan 24 00:29
vZS1Because mobile software is particularly vulnerable to being hijacked by some clown service providerJan 24 00:30
vZS1Whether we like it or not, mobile computing is going to be around for a while. We should have GNU software on mobile too.Jan 24 00:31
schestowitz__yupJan 24 00:31
schestowitz__what is "mobile software"?Jan 24 00:31
vZS1Why let the monopolies control our phones. GNU should be universalJan 24 00:31
schestowitz__Software that would typically go on a small potable device?Jan 24 00:31
vZS1YeahJan 24 00:31
vZS1As in mobile phonesJan 24 00:32
vZS1I guess that's old terminology nowJan 24 00:32
schestowitz__monopolists already control the lion's share of those devices types/form factorJan 24 00:32
schestowitz__at OS and  carrier levelJan 24 00:32
schestowitz__see BTJan 24 00:32
vZS1They did with personal computers as wellJan 24 00:32
vZS1But GNU changed thatJan 24 00:32
vZS1And it can change this tooJan 24 00:33
schestowitz__I have come to the conclusion that the throttling is retaliatory and only got worse over timeJan 24 00:33
schestowitz__I now disable IPFS about half the dayaJan 24 00:33
schestowitz__I guess the strategy is, make things painful enough, unless the person gives up on it completelyJan 24 00:34
schestowitz__turns out, they even charged me for the engineer visits or equipment they sentJan 24 00:34
schestowitz__no evidence (yet) of refundsJan 24 00:34
psydroidI don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with mobile computers (a.k.a. phones), but some of the hardware decisions are bad and the tight control over the software running on them is inherently maliciousJan 24 00:36
schestowitz__there are some problematic inherent thing about themJan 24 00:36
schestowitz__because they always are "on" and "connected"Jan 24 00:36
schestowitz__to receive callJan 24 00:36
psydroidradios that can't be disabledJan 24 00:36
vZS1There are projects out there working on liberating phonesJan 24 00:36
schestowitz__and you move around themJan 24 00:36
schestowitz__ANDJan 24 00:36
schestowitz__they share the location dataJan 24 00:36
schestowitz__both carriers and OS vendors, app makers et.Jan 24 00:37
schestowitz__etc.Jan 24 00:37
psydroidyes, so we need to free them by running only free software that we control on themJan 24 00:38
vZS1Projects like GrapheneOS and F-Droid are a step in the right directionJan 24 00:38
vZS1All my F-Droid programs are GPLV3Jan 24 00:39
psydroidnot Android, Sailfish, iOS or some other software that is primarily meant for spying on peopleJan 24 00:39
vZS1When I get the time I'm moving over to GrapheneOS to test it outJan 24 00:40
vZS1It's basically de-Googling AndroidJan 24 00:40
_I3^RELATIVISMwhy not use unix in your device?Jan 24 00:40
_I3^RELATIVISMmobian?Jan 24 00:40
_I3^RELATIVISMpinephoneJan 24 00:41
_I3^RELATIVISMvZS1: Jan 24 00:41
MinceR 24 00:41
vZS1Realistically, you need to support what everybody usesJan 24 00:41
vZS1There's a reason GNU reimplemented UNIXJan 24 00:41
_I3^RELATIVISMnonsenseJan 24 00:42
vZS1Otherwise nobody would use GNUJan 24 00:42
_I3^RELATIVISMandroid is mostly POSIX complaintJan 24 00:42
_I3^RELATIVISMthat argument doesnt holdJan 24 00:42
vZS1It's the same for phones. You need to be able to support all the Android software people expectJan 24 00:42
_I3^RELATIVISManboxJan 24 00:43
vZS1You can believe what you want to (:Jan 24 00:43
_I3^RELATIVISMfor fringeJan 24 00:43
_I3^RELATIVISMis not about believe but logicJan 24 00:43
_I3^RELATIVISMyou said otherwise noone use unixJan 24 00:43
_I3^RELATIVISMbut that doesnt holdJan 24 00:43
_I3^RELATIVISMgiven android is kinda of POSIX complaintJan 24 00:44
_I3^RELATIVISMso in a way UNIXJan 24 00:44
_I3^RELATIVISMso I call nonsenseJan 24 00:44
vZS1I'm not going to argue further.Jan 24 00:44
MinceRit would be better to have something that upholds the unix principlesJan 24 00:44
_I3^RELATIVISMthis is not a argumrntJan 24 00:44
DaemonFC[m]It's looking like my spouse qualifies for a COVID shot in the next group, but I don't.Jan 24 00:44
_I3^RELATIVISMif you can support you claims vZS1 Jan 24 00:44
schestowitz__MinceR: in explosm better link directly to the imageJan 24 00:45
schestowitz__MinceR: as the web pages are malicious Jan 24 00:45
MinceRokJan 24 00:45
_I3^RELATIVISMDaemonFC: astrazeneca vacine is pretty goodJan 24 00:45
MinceRschestowitz__: in what way though?Jan 24 00:45
_I3^RELATIVISMtry to avoid moderna and biotech thoughJan 24 00:45
DaemonFC[m] 24 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon is pushing for a milestone union vote to take place in person despite the pandemic - CNNJan 24 00:47
DaemonFC[m]"A union election was held in 2014 at a Delaware warehouse, but resulted in workers largely rejecting the effort."Jan 24 00:47
schestowitz__XRevan86: is that a female he kicked?Jan 24 00:47
DaemonFC[m]It's amazing that after the lawyers get done hinting that the entire facility might close does that.Jan 24 00:47
schestowitz__amazon is really harmful to the economyJan 24 00:48
_I3^RELATIVISMwe need a revolution in how business is runJan 24 00:48
XRevan86schestowitz__: yesJan 24 00:49
_I3^RELATIVISMconcentration of power needs to be adressedJan 24 00:49
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: Well, Mandy and I are trapped in Illinois for now. Part of that is because an extra couple dollars an hour may not sound like much and is, in fact, entirely undone by the cost of living here vs. Indiana, but Immigration uses the same income standards throughout the country.Jan 24 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GVRN/GVRNspec - GVRNspec - LibreGitJan 24 00:49
DaemonFC[m]So even though the cost of living in Indiana is half as much as it is in San Francisco, you'll have an easier time with Immigration if you lived in San Francisco even if your living standard is the same or less, because the job must pay more.Jan 24 00:50
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DaemonFC[m]If we had gotten Mandy the same job in Indiana, he would have made almost $3 an hour less and then our income wouldn't be enough. So, there's no difference in living standard, but it's easier to get past Immigration living here and working here.Jan 24 00:51
schestowitz__XRevan86: hopefully he is not a married manJan 24 00:53
DaemonFC[m]Slipping things through the system using paper and regulations and whatnot. It's not fun. In fact, it's just downright bizarre how it's possible for one of you to be bankrupt, then file a joint return with a tax rate of -1.3%, and then declare that you make almost $41,000 on immigration forms, and in all cases what you did was legally correct.Jan 24 00:53
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: let's focus on tech, not personal talesJan 24 00:55
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: I think it does explain how patent law works. It's like tax law, immigration law, bankruptcy law. It has baroque rules that almost invite creativity.Jan 24 00:56
DaemonFC[m]And you can be entirely honest and pull off some real howlers.Jan 24 00:56
techrights-botChocolate chip cookies 24 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness ( 24 00:57
techrights-bot#KDE Plasma 5.21 Beta Launched โ€“ Checkout Features & UI Improvements 24 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KDE Plasma 5.21 Desktop Enters Beta, Hereโ€™s How to Test It Right Now | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:57
DaemonFC[m]It benefits attorneys because a lay person has almost no chance of looking at the law and figuring out a strategy.Jan 24 00:57
techrights-bot#KDE Saw Many Fixes + Improvements On Top Of Shipping Plasma 5.21 Beta 24 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This week in KDE: the Plasma 5.20 beta is here! | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Stable Kernels: 5.10.10, 5.4.92, 4.19.170, 4.14.217, 4.9.253 , and 4.4.253 | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:57
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techrights-bot#MXLinux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] โ€ข ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†„๐Ÿ†‡ ๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ†‚ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | MX Linux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:58
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techrights-botThe State of #GNOME 40's Threaded Input #gnu #linux #programmingJan 24 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:59
techrights-bot#EasyOS 2.4.1 review โ€ข ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†„๐Ÿ†‡ ๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ†‚ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Easy OS 2.4.1 review | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Best mathematics packages for Linux in 2021 | Tux MachinesJan 24 00:59
techrights-bot$1 #PinePhone pogo pin breakout board lets you connect add-ons without removing the back cover โ€ข ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†„๐Ÿ†‡ ๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ†‚ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | $1 PinePhone pogo pin breakout board lets you connect add-ons without removing the back cover | Tux MachinesJan 24 01:00
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techrights-bot"Sustainable governance model by the means of a cryptotoken economy, rewarding contributors for their commits." 24 01:01
techrights-botThe 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 โ€ข ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†„๐Ÿ†‡ ๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ†‚ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 | Tux MachinesJan 24 01:02
techrights-botThe "Q" 24 01:02
vZS1schestowitz__: my ipfs node is on indefinitely, so as long as I can pull the index and objects at some point, there will be a fall-back.Jan 24 01:04
vZS1I only take that node offline for major maintenance of the host. It doesn't happen often.Jan 24 01:05
MinceRschestowitz__: in what way is the website malicious?Jan 24 01:06
techrights-botEssential Utilities: Flash OS Images โ€ข ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†„๐Ÿ†‡ ๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ†‚ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Essential Utilities: Flash OS Images | Tux MachinesJan 24 01:06
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†„๐Ÿ†‡ ๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ†‚ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 24 01:07
techrights-botIn #russia they get away with it #police #womanKillingJan 24 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-???'s Videos | VKJan 24 01:07
techrights-botItโ€™s time to reject #Google โ€™s #WWW #monopoly (shared with other companies but still an #oligopoly ); removing its Web browser would be a good start 24 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chromium and Chrome Are Not Free Software But an Example of Microsoft-Fashioned Openwashing Tactics | TechrightsJan 24 01:08
techrights-botThe full document that #INTC paid for and in turn used to justify cracking down on #freesw (obliterating #Freesoftware -based workflows inside #Intel ) 24 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | InteLeaks โ€“ Part XXX: Harbor Researchโ€™s Pseudo-scientific โ€˜Researchโ€™ for Intel, Bizarrely Suggesting a Microsoft Partnership for a Domain Largely Controlled or Dominated by Linux | TechrightsJan 24 01:08
schestowitz__MinceR: a third parry that spies via JSJan 24 01:09
schestowitz__and popupsJan 24 01:09
schestowitz__you must consent to see pageJan 24 01:09
schestowitz__my guess is, you turned off JS and thus aren't awareJan 24 01:09
schestowitz__many cartoons nowadays do itJan 24 01:10
MinceRi block a lot of thingsJan 24 01:10
schestowitz__to watch some lousy image you have to run lots of dodgy programs. Same for articles (text) for that matter...Jan 24 01:10
MinceRjs from other domains is among themJan 24 01:10
schestowitz__this is why we push towards text only...Jan 24 01:10
schestowitz__I don't need anything but text and maybe one image to know the newsJan 24 01:11
schestowitz__usually the images don't add much, like a mug of a persoJan 24 01:11
DaemonFC[m]Brave supports IPFS. Would be nice if they could get PC to Android phone sync working properly.Jan 24 01:11
schestowitz__such 'news' sites also harm the environmentJan 24 01:11
schestowitz__I just need kate and rss feeds to read newsJan 24 01:12
DaemonFC[m]There's a question on the IRS 1040 this year about have you in 2020 received a controlling interest or ownership in any cryptocurrency.Jan 24 01:12
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: yes, we have everything now as ipfsJan 24 01:12
schestowitz__except videosJan 24 01:12
schestowitz__although vZS1 says some people convert our videos too into ipfs objectsJan 24 01:12
DaemonFC[m]I never gave Brave my Social Security number so I have no way of actually taking possession of those BATs or trading them for USD.Jan 24 01:12
schestowitz__apachelog says the server does about 10mb/sec because of videosJan 24 01:13
DaemonFC[m]Nor do they have any way to report me to the IRS for BATs.Jan 24 01:13
schestowitz__brave does some edgy thingsJan 24 01:13
schestowitz__its target audience is that..Jan 24 01:13
DaemonFC[m]In my honest opinion, I have no controlling interest in the BATs and wouldn't owe taxes on them anyway since they were all doled out to an IRS registered non-profit charity.Jan 24 01:14
DaemonFC[m]Either the Tor Project or Wikipedia. Jan 24 01:14
vZS1Using Brave wouldn't make much of a difference because we don't prefix IPFS CIDs with "ipfs://"Jan 24 01:14
vZS1You're better off using the CLI or desktop UIJan 24 01:14
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: I think the question is due to the government becoming concerned that crypto is being used by "terrorists".Jan 24 01:15
DaemonFC[m]Which translates to people aren't paying their taxes and it competes with the USD, therefore must be destroyed somehow. Yellen basically said as much and she'll be Treasury Secretary soon.Jan 24 01:16
vZS1Actually, they hate cash just as muchJan 24 01:16
schestowitz__Yes, the banks always control fiscal stuffJan 24 01:16
DaemonFC[m]They do.Jan 24 01:16
schestowitz__vZS1: some places no longer accept itJan 24 01:16
schestowitz__even for plastic with water in itJan 24 01:16
DaemonFC[m]So I expect several things to happen soon, schestowitz__.Jan 24 01:16
vZS1Anything anonymous is for "terrorists"Jan 24 01:16
schestowitz__or for chewing gumJan 24 01:17
schestowitz__they expect you to use a credit card or debt card with plastic with waterJan 24 01:17
schestowitz__*DebitJan 24 01:17
DaemonFC[m]1. The Treasury will start sanctioning Crypto exchanges that do not comply with existing tax laws, including FATCA.Jan 24 01:17
schestowitz__the "Debt card" would be "credit" cardJan 24 01:17
vZS1I can still pay with cash on the busJan 24 01:17
DaemonFC[m]2. The IRS will start to move towards auditing people who say "Yes.".Jan 24 01:17
schestowitz__vZS1: so you are not in LondonJan 24 01:17
vZS1Nope. I'd rather not live in 1984Jan 24 01:18
DaemonFC[m]3. Congress may even make it a crime for Americans to possess it. Why not? The government made it illegal to own significant quantities of gold for over 30 years, and gold was much bigger than crypto.Jan 24 01:18
DaemonFC[m]All of these actions will make it undesirable because it will lose one of the biggest markets where it can legally operate. Jan 24 01:19
vZS1They announce to pay with card but most people ignore it hereJan 24 01:19
techrights-botFOSS Projects Live Off Community Support #freesw #sharingJan 24 01:19
DaemonFC[m]Therefore, the value will plummet and MARISOL will have some worthless beans.Jan 24 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSS Projects Live Off Community Support - YouTubeJan 24 01:19
DaemonFC[m]The UK is talking of a crackdown and warning people they could "lose everything" with crypto too.Jan 24 01:20
DaemonFC[m]So expect most countries to start coming down hard and cooperating with investigations into each other's citizens.Jan 24 01:20
techrights-botUse #libreoffice instead; nothing it cannot do that is widely done in 2021. 24 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running MS OFFICE on Linux - Is it enough to justify paying for Wine? - YouTubeJan 24 01:20
vZS1The USD is the currency of terrorismJan 24 01:20
DaemonFC[m]People are losing confidence in fiat currency that central banks can inflate at will.Jan 24 01:20
vZS1In several waysJan 24 01:21
DaemonFC[m]They have to stem this and the reason they're reacting so late in the game is because a lot of things go unregulated for years before the government fully appreciates that it should have stopped it ages ago.Jan 24 01:21
vZS1I never understood how you just print money at willJan 24 01:21
DaemonFC[m]There's no printing. You just say it exists.Jan 24 01:22
DaemonFC[m]Then it does. Magic!Jan 24 01:22
techrights-botCan we please stop helping #microsoft fake and manufacture the narrative about its competition? Many people and projects do not use #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly #github #deletegithubJan 24 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ยป 2021-01 Russian IT Security Updates โ€“ cybercrime-as-a-service (CSaaS) | dwaves.deJan 24 01:22
vZS1But this is not my domain so I'm ignorantJan 24 01:22
vZS1(not sarcasm)Jan 24 01:22
DaemonFC[m]Less than 2% of the USD that the banking system claims are in circulation exist as cash.Jan 24 01:22
DaemonFC[m]When the Coronavirus pandemic was new there was a cash shortage at the banks.Jan 24 01:22
DaemonFC[m]They started giving me $20s and $10s because they were out of $50s and $100s.Jan 24 01:23
DaemonFC[m]People panicked and made a run on the banks and there wasn't enough cash there to handle a very small bank run from maybe the 3-5% of the public that suddenly wanted to have more cash on hand.Jan 24 01:23
DaemonFC[m]vZS1: One option with the tax return is to buy a Savings Bond. It's the one way the Treasury still issues them on paper, I guess.Jan 24 01:24
vZS1Isn't that the assumption banks operate on? (People won't panic-withdraw)Jan 24 01:25
DaemonFC[m]But Savings Bonds are pointless because the interest rate is shit. Then when you go cash them you have to fill out more tax forms because it earned like $5 over 10 years.Jan 24 01:25
techrights-bot#Boeing 737 MAX is a reminder of the REAL problem with #proprietarysoftware | Stop at Zona-M โ‡จ 24 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Boeing 737 MAX is a reminder of the REAL problem with software | Stop at Zona-MJan 24 01:26
DaemonFC[m]<vZS1 "Isn't that the assumption banks "> It is, and we're not even operating on fractional reserve anymore. Part of the "reforms" to try to make credit easier to obtain during the emergency effectively has us on zero reserve banking now.Jan 24 01:26
DaemonFC[m]So if banks have any reserves, it's not really something they're encouraging. They look to monetize the customers in other ways by signing them up for loans and eating them alive with fees.Jan 24 01:26
DaemonFC[m]They only need to have enough to pass their Fed stress test, so it's not the actual amount they need to survive their actual risk all going bad at once.Jan 24 01:27
DaemonFC[m]It's very close to zero in terms of the loans and the risks they took on those loans looking for potential profits. Jan 24 01:27
vZS1Let's hope they don't get bailed out again like they did in 2008.Jan 24 01:28
DaemonFC[m]Wells Fargo was worse than most banks are "before it was cool".Jan 24 01:28
DaemonFC[m]I'd come in to cash my paycheck in the early 2000s and they were constantly trying to see if I wanted a home, car, or credit card loan.Jan 24 01:28
DaemonFC[m]"We do student loans too, you know!"Jan 24 01:29
DaemonFC[m]Credit scores are so easy to manipulate that mine's considered decent again just months after having a mountain of debt written off by a court.Jan 24 01:30
DaemonFC[m]We've all fucking forgotten what I did 5 months ago, just about.Jan 24 01:30
DaemonFC[m]That's how our system is. And people trade tips on how to game the credit scores, on the forums from the credit scoring companies.Jan 24 01:31
vZS1Everybody needs a hobbyJan 24 01:31
DaemonFC[m]I've had lower scores than this before just because I had no loans at all.Jan 24 01:31
DaemonFC[m]It's worse to not have any loans (for the score) than to have a bankruptcy.Jan 24 01:31
DaemonFC[m]People talk about bankruptcy being a nuclear bomb for your credit score, but you can game it back up higher than someone with no bankruptcy who just doesn't use credit cards in a few months.Jan 24 01:32
DaemonFC[m]They like to talk about how bankruptcy will make it impossible to get a mortgage for "2 years for most people", but all of my scores are high enough that I could get a mortgage right now. Wouldn't be the best mortgage ever, but I could get one, if I had enough underlying income.Jan 24 01:34
DaemonFC[m]The pressure is not to reduce risk so much as it is to have as many open accounts as possible.Jan 24 01:34
vZS1Re: war on crypto currency. The Times outright mock it every chance they get. Jan 24 01:38
vZS1They must really hate itJan 24 01:38
vZS1They = their ownersJan 24 01:39
DaemonFC[m]John worked with a guy at the TSA who heats his apartment in the winter mining bitcoins.Jan 24 01:42
techrights-bot[Older] #F2FS With #Linux 5.12 To Allow Configuring Compression Level 24 01:47
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techrights-bot#Linux 5.12 To Allow Voltage/Temperature Reporting On Some #ASRock Motherboards - Phoronix โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐Ÿง | more in 24 01:49
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techrights-bot#GhostBSD 21.01.20 release note โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #BSD #UNIX #TuxMachines | more in 24 01:54
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techrights-botWhen #healthcare is reduced to a single number | Stop at Zona-M โ‡จ "I had a โ€œtelehealthโ€ doctorโ€™s visit the other day. "Jan 24 02:00
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techrights-bot#BT #throttling of our connection is getting a lot worse and more severe over time. They refuse to tackle the problem. They just lack the capacity. Overwhelmed as they didn't invest in expanding. 1) 2) 24 02:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ ยป Blog Archive ยป Coronavirus May Have Caused a Nationwide or Regional Congestion Crisis for BTJan 24 02:04
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techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 02:05
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–ƒโ–ˆโ–‡โ–ˆโ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–‡โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–‡โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–ˆโ–‡ avg(k/sec) 31.85โ–• swarm size (avg): 210.14  โŸฒJan 24 02:10
techrights-bot#KDE Goals โ€“ a year lost, a year gained โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 02:11
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techrights-bot#diffoscope 165 released #ReproducibleBuilds #securityJan 24 02:12
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techrights-bot"This release brings several smaller tweaks and improvements to the summary report that had accumulated in my use since the last release last April." 24 02:14
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techrights-bot#deletegithub don't make #rakulang dependent on censorious #proprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoftJan 24 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | A New Release Of Cro::RPC::JSON - LFlat, The Home of VrurgJan 24 02:16
techrights-botAlso #deletegithub we cannot liberate #android from #google by outsourcing to oppressive #proprietarySoftware prison of #microsoftJan 24 02:18
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techrights-bot"Due to the need to maintain physical distance in 2020, I created an online gift exchange for them to use during a book club videoconference." 24 02:19
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techrights-bot"I personally learned when becoming general manager of the newly established IBM Internet Division in December of 1995" 24 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Surprising Power of Business ExperimentationJan 24 02:21
techrights-botGood News! You Can Start Using #MXLinux on #RaspberryPi [In Beta] #gnu #linuxJan 24 02:22
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techrights-botI have seen the laptop of the future | Stop at Zona-M โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #sbc breakthrough are hugely beneficial to #gnu #linux and #openhardwareJan 24 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | I have seen the laptop of the future | Stop at Zona-MJan 24 02:23
techrights-botOh. No, those won't run #microsoft #windows and don't need #intel to approve #patent licensing... 24 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | DevEBox STM32H7 Development Boards are made for Factory AutomationJan 24 02:24
techrights-bot"Teams are systems too. Delays in operations that teams need to perform regularly are significant to their effectiveness. We should know what they are." 24 02:25
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techrights-bot#ProprietarySoftware #CRACKED again #SonicWallJan 24 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ยป SonicWall hardware VPNs hit by worst-case 0-zero-day-exploit attacks | dwaves.deJan 24 02:27
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techrights-bot#RasPi is fantastic to have for #programming exercises, especially with a suitable HAT that can accomplish all sorts of useful and practical things. We programmed an #ipfs monitor with it, showing all sorts of things inc. alerts.Jan 24 02:44
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techrights-bot#Biden #Bloomberg : when your political 'rival' ends up funding your campaign to the tune of 0.1 BILLION dollars you're not going to regulate and tax the super-rich, are you? cheaper to bribe than to pay taxJan 24 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | TechrightsJan 24 02:50
techrights-bot#techrights presence and reach in #ipfs continues to grow as more nodes pin the articles and bulletins. Hopefully WWW/HTML/HTML can be deprecated one day. They've been destroyed/hijacked by monopolies at all levels.Jan 24 02:53
techrights-bot#ibm is ruining what was once known as #redhat 24 02:54
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MinceRi thought it was ruined before ibm bought itJan 24 02:55
schestowitz__I did not claim it was benign to begin withJan 24 02:55
schestowitz__MinceR: see 24 02:56
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techrights-botโ€œWe would all probably be better-off if they simply folded their tent and let the GNU organization get on with the real movement.โ€ 24 02:57
techrights-botFor a moment #Cheltenham thought it had cracked it 24 02:59
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schestowitz__hm... did that fail?Jan 24 03:02
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schestowitz__seems like bulletin failed to generated automaticallyJan 24 03:08
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schestowitz__Oh, I see :-)Jan 24 03:09
schestowitz__too many imagesJan 24 03:09
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schestowitz__it took over 20 mins to generate Braille version of the leaks/imagesJan 24 03:16
schestowitz__I guess an exceptional scenario, no need to space up the cron jobs for nowJan 24 03:16
schestowitz__rerunning the job nowJan 24 03:16
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techrights-botLater this year #techrights turns 15. Lockdowns likely to last that long though. 24 03:20
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz, the radio was talking about IBM as an investment not looking good. It said they struggled to get cash strapped organizations to "abandon legacy systems" and use "the cloud".Jan 24 03:25
DaemonFC[m]People should be looking for ways to resist, especially when it's not a major workload and they can handle it themselves with a laptop a some thumb drives.Jan 24 03:25
DaemonFC[m]Cloud document editing is another bubble. Right now, people are doing it, but Microsoft keeps proving that they can't make reliability guarantees and so anything you store there could be inaccessible not just randomly but for days at a time if you don't have a local copy and a program that can load the file.Jan 24 03:27
DaemonFC[m]So why the fuck even use it?Jan 24 03:27
schestowitz__exactlyJan 24 03:29
schestowitz__hype, liesJan 24 03:29
schestowitz__OK, DaemonFC[m], let's put it this wayJan 24 03:29
schestowitz__the year is 1980Jan 24 03:29
schestowitz__you have an IBM mainframeJan 24 03:29
schestowitz__your staff logs inJan 24 03:29
schestowitz__edits a documentJan 24 03:29
schestowitz__like a spreadsheetJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__exitsJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__another logs in, edits some moreJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__it's the "clown" editorJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__multiple users edit a spreadsheerJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__1985 comes byJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__you get your staff a PC for the diskJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__*deskJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__with a disk (storage)Jan 24 03:30
schestowitz__they all get copies of that spreadsheetJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__then edit itJan 24 03:30
schestowitz__1995: the staff gets a laptopJan 24 03:31
schestowitz__can take the spreadsheet to the train... the home... the airportJan 24 03:31
schestowitz__no wifi yetJan 24 03:31
schestowitz__so you got OUT of the "clown" (mainframe)Jan 24 03:31
schestowitz__not people can work from outside the clownJan 24 03:31
schestowitz__but in 2020 apparently it's hip to go back to 1980Jan 24 03:32
schestowitz__let's put all our stuff in some central computer we DO NOT EVEN OWNJan 24 03:32
schestowitz__That's "PROGRESS!"Jan 24 03:32
schestowitz__I still need a soldering gun from friend, then >>solder and set up raspi<<, maybe one day a backup raspi...Jan 24 03:33
schestowitz__this lockdown is awfulJan 24 03:33
schestowitz__I spoke to friends of ours last nightJan 24 03:33
schestowitz__they call it "home arrest"Jan 24 03:33
cybrNautwhat's so fucking bizarre about corps using the cloud for docs: trade secrets.  It's actually the corporations that keep crypto alive to protect business secrets, and it's a rare phenomenon where natural ppl benefit (we get to encrypt things too).  Then corps go and do something stupid like put their docs in the cloudJan 24 03:33
schestowitz__she (the partner of my friend) is a socialite, so it's hell for herJan 24 03:34
schestowitz__cybrNaut: they also put client records thereJan 24 03:34
schestowitz__imagine you're an Assange lawyerJan 24 03:34
schestowitz__and your firm (upstream)Jan 24 03:34
schestowitz__backs up the staff to AWS overnightJan 24 03:34
schestowitz__or worse, does all document editing on US "clown"Jan 24 03:34
schestowitz__US government can see all your docs and legal strategy/planJan 24 03:35
schestowitz__that's in breach of client privilegeJan 24 03:35
schestowitz__in the past I complained about them not using encrypting when mailing or emailing thingsJan 24 03:35
schestowitz__never mind the NSA/GCHQ back doors on PCs they usedJan 24 03:35
schestowitz__now it's worse as they almost literally hand over the files/docs themselves on a silver platter to spy colludersJan 24 03:36
cybrNautindeed, and lawyers tend to be low-tech.  I had a lawyer who refused to use encryption.. I was so disgustedJan 24 03:36
schestowitz__tell them they breach the lawJan 24 03:36
schestowitz__"privilege"Jan 24 03:36
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m] has a spouse looking to settle in the USJan 24 03:36
schestowitz__and all their info floats about on "clowns"Jan 24 03:37
schestowitz__big advantage for those looking for a pretext to reject applicationsJan 24 03:37
schestowitz__as those docs often point out potential threats, weaknesses, grounds for disqualificationJan 24 03:37
cybrNautlawyers believe in the legal protections offered by atty-client priv, so they don't think they need technological protection.. it's a case of too must trust in their own industryJan 24 03:37
schestowitz__ 24 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ ยป Blog Archive ยป Lawyers Who Donโ€™t Use Encryption When Suing Government Entities With Access to Intercepted Material (Mass Surveillance)Jan 24 03:38
schestowitz__in the past they kept physical failedJan 24 03:38
schestowitz__*filedJan 24 03:38
schestowitz__so raids were the threatJan 24 03:38
schestowitz__they would periodically shred files of old cases, based on the law Jan 24 03:38
schestowitz__Assange lawyers in Spain had his office raidedJan 24 03:38
schestowitz__*lawyerJan 24 03:39
schestowitz__Balz* somethingJan 24 03:39
schestowitz__raiding is a lot more crude and violentJan 24 03:39
schestowitz__and causes backlashJan 24 03:39
schestowitz__unlike sending a letter secretly to amazon to get access to some file or accountJan 24 03:39
schestowitz__Groklaw wrote about AWS T&Cs that allow such stuffJan 24 03:39
schestowitz__it was run by an old paralegalJan 24 03:39
cybrNautit may not be a problem in the future.  I heard encrytion has recently become part of the law cirriculumJan 24 03:40
schestowitz__well.. we'll seeJan 24 03:44
schestowitz__the media promotes 'fake' encryptionJan 24 03:44
schestowitz__that is, encryption between ends that aren't as intendedJan 24 03:44
schestowitz__so you share with X+govJan 24 03:44
schestowitz__or X+companies+govJan 24 03:45
schestowitz__never just Y->X->YJan 24 03:45
schestowitz__that's now e2eeJan 24 03:45
cybrNautthat article reminds me of a Florida case where the defense lawyers used a local print shop to copy docs.  The prosecuter had a way of seeing the docs they were copying and it all got discoveredJan 24 03:45
schestowitz__ 24 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Guarding Your Privacy With E2EE: Primer | TechrightsJan 24 03:45
schestowitz__Groklaw is back online BTW 24 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Groklaw - Digging for TruthJan 24 03:46
schestowitz__as of about a week or two ago Jan 24 03:46
schestowitz__was down for over 2 monthsJan 24 03:46 is down for meJan 24 03:47
DaemonFC[m]I talk about sensitive things in person with the attorney in the room.Jan 24 03:48
DaemonFC[m]Not over emails.Jan 24 03:48
DaemonFC[m]That goes for any area of the law.Jan 24 03:48
DaemonFC[m]Government reads emails and they would maybe get a heads up over what's going on in your case. Not smart. Jan 24 03:48
schestowitz__psydroid: intel has been crackedJan 24 03:48
DaemonFC[m]Maybe they get a warrant for the emails as part of your case and then what do you do?Jan 24 03:49
schestowitz__yupJan 24 03:49
schestowitz__face to face betterJan 24 03:49
DaemonFC[m]You're on there talking to the lawyer about your legal strategies, what happened and how you'll spin it in court.Jan 24 03:49
schestowitz__and paper notesJan 24 03:49
cybrNautDaemonFC[m]: sometimes you have to send a doc.  choices are: fax, personal delivery, mail, .. and lawyers today can't handle cryptoJan 24 03:49
schestowitz__face to faceJan 24 03:50
schestowitz__like you give them a passport or billsJan 24 03:50
schestowitz__common across many areas of operationJan 24 03:50
cybrNautfax is still considered "secure" by the law & medical professions, even though it usually goes through email at one end or both endsJan 24 03:51
schestowitz__fax is as secure as a phone conversationJan 24 03:51
schestowitz__though I never saw documents about spy agencies intercepting fax transmissionsJan 24 03:51
schestowitz__thankfully ipfs is all encrypted, same for sshJan 24 03:52
schestowitz__so much of the essential work we do goes through secure channelsJan 24 03:52
schestowitz__except emails without pgpJan 24 03:52
schestowitz__protonmail uses pgJan 24 03:52
schestowitz__pgpJan 24 03:52
schestowitz__but...Jan 24 03:52
schestowitz__I think the company keeps the private keys of its users (I did not check)Jan 24 03:53
cybrNautyeah, protonmail keeps the pvt keys, but the keys themselves are encrypted.. so, as long as you can trust the javascript not to send your p/w back, you're fineJan 24 03:54
cybrNautTargeted ppl should worry about that possibility.. normies, not so muchJan 24 03:54
cybrNautElectronMail adds a shred of confidence to Protonmail, b/c you don't blindly use whatever javascript the server sendsJan 24 03:56
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz__ "the media promotes 'fake' encryp"> Yeah, like Washington Post mentioning WhatsApp. Oh my god....Jan 24 03:56
schestowitz__lolJan 24 03:57
DaemonFC[m]Anyone who leaks classified documents over WhatsApp (Facebook) is gonna be having a bad day in court.Jan 24 03:57
cybrNautwith ElectronMail you have to trust those working on that github-hosted FOSS project,Jan 24 03:57
schestowitz__'FOSS'Jan 24 03:57
schestowitz__managed by proprietaryJan 24 03:57
schestowitz__hosted on Microsoft servers (NSA PRISM)Jan 24 03:57
schestowitz__subjected to takedown by the cartel of HollywoodJan 24 03:58
schestowitz__without due processJan 24 03:58
schestowitz__like Signal :-)Jan 24 03:58
schestowitz__and IPFS :(Jan 24 03:58
DaemonFC[m]This version of Windows 10 is one of the SKUs that lets you turn Telemetry down to Security-only.Jan 24 03:58
DaemonFC[m]On most of them, it treats 0 as if it was "Basic Telemetry" or setting 1.Jan 24 03:58
DaemonFC[m]Security-only is the lowest any SKU officially lets you set it, and it's apparently "If Windows Defender needs to gather cloud intelligence about potential malware." and "Whether Windows is installing updates correctly.".Jan 24 03:59
DaemonFC[m]Anyone who is using an Insider Build is stuck at Full Telemetry no matter what they set it at.Jan 24 04:00
cybrNautElectronMail is still safer than straight web access to protonmail, b/c protonmail can be forced to send malicious j/s to you specifically when you connect.  But you can anonmously grab a copy of ElectronMail, so they would have to compromise everyone or no one.Jan 24 04:01
cybrNautone could inspect the ElectronMail code themself, and then not upgrade.  But with web access, you'd have to inspect that j/s everytime you connectJan 24 04:02
schestowitz__Who is behind ElectronMail?Jan 24 04:04
schestowitz__It that a service or software?Jan 24 04:04
schestowitz__when dealing with what you call "web access" you deal with a web browserJan 24 04:05
cybrNautit's software from a 3rd party not associated to ProtonmailJan 24 04:05
schestowitz__and I don't think too highly of browsers most people useJan 24 04:05
schestowitz__if the address bar is a keyloggerJan 24 04:05
cybrNaut 24 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - vladimiry/ElectronMail: Unofficial ProtonMail Desktop AppJan 24 04:05
schestowitz__and if they send your passwords to the "clown"Jan 24 04:05
schestowitz__then who knows what else they do...Jan 24 04:06
techrights-bot#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, January 23, 2021 full archive: #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextJan 24 04:06
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techrights-bot#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now available as plain text @ #dweb #sharingJan 24 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Techrights Full IPFS IndexJan 24 04:06
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–†โ–ƒโ–‡โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–„ avg(k/sec) 24.11 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–‡โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–„โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–†โ–‡โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ˆโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„ avg(k/sec) 27.35โ–• swarm size (avg): 213.66  โŸฒJan 24 04:10
cybrNautbtw, advanced users need not have a protonmail acct to talk to PM users. So I sometimes convince novices to create an acct there, and I use my own MUA and pgp key to correspond with them.  That's what I like about PM.  tutanota can't support thatJan 24 04:11
schestowitz__I dread what people use for document dropsJan 24 04:13
schestowitz__like...Jan 24 04:13
schestowitz__not torJan 24 04:13
schestowitz__even if you use https and an open wifi connectionJan 24 04:13
schestowitz__somewhere publicJan 24 04:13
schestowitz__the browser itself is not trustworthyJan 24 04:13
schestowitz__the state has made it really hard to become truly anonymousJan 24 04:13
schestowitz__bt had us accept some shitty new 'smart' hubJan 24 04:14
schestowitz__and it no longer even allows open wifiJan 24 04:14
DaemonFC[m]securedrop is what The Washington Post recommends.Jan 24 04:14
DaemonFC[m]Probably ran by the CIA or NSA.Jan 24 04:14
schestowitz__they remotely see who connects to it and read it out to me over the phoneJan 24 04:14
schestowitz__WaPo=bezos=cia contractsJan 24 04:14
schestowitz__When Manning came to WaPo they spurned herJan 24 04:14
schestowitz__War crimes? Corruption? NOT INTERESTED.Jan 24 04:15
schestowitz__"Wait, is it about TRUMP? SEND IT!"Jan 24 04:15
schestowitz__leaks over email or www are riskyJan 24 04:16
schestowitz__because of the mail and browser 'clients'Jan 24 04:16
schestowitz__suppose you have ipfs set upJan 24 04:16
schestowitz__and then you add some CIDJan 24 04:16
schestowitz__then all you need to leak is that CIDJan 24 04:16
schestowitz__not sure if its origins can be traced back and who byJan 24 04:17
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schestowitz__it propagates 24 04:17
schestowitz__I've just turned off ipfs hereJan 24 04:18
schestowitz__and this is still onlineJan 24 04:18
schestowitz__the riddle is, how to add a CID/object anonymouslyJan 24 04:18
schestowitz__2019: 24 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anonymous IPFS ยท Issue #6430 ยท ipfs/go-ipfs ยท GitHubJan 24 04:19
DaemonFC[m]The Washington Post doesn't even suggest using Tor, I noticed.Jan 24 04:20
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't have a Tor drop box.Jan 24 04:20
schestowitz__ 24 04:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IPFS and illegal content : ipfsJan 24 04:20
schestowitz__If I understood correct - you can't delete or block file in a ipfs, so it makes it the perfect replacement for torrent network. Right?Jan 24 04:20
schestowitz__So why there is still no ipfs trackers of hashes and no one is yelling "Block it for a God sake, block it, we losing money, noooooo!"?Jan 24 04:20
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schestowitz__ 24 04:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lesson: Run IPFS over Tor transport (experimental) ยท Decentralized Web PrimerJan 24 04:21
DaemonFC[m]Well, the more they tighten their grip, the more "restricted content" will slip through their fingers. Making inferior courts for copyright is just going to scare the fuck out of everyone and it's the best advertisement for a VPN to date.Jan 24 04:21
schestowitz__ 24 04:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IPFS is not an anonymity network. | Hacker NewsJan 24 04:22
schestowitz__"In fact, IPFS via the DHT, tells the network of your whole network topology, including internal address you may have, and VPN endpoints too."Jan 24 04:22
schestowitz__tl;dr:Jan 24 04:22
schestowitz__no real anonymity in ipfsJan 24 04:22
schestowitz__wrong tool for that jobJan 24 04:22
schestowitz__just censorship resistance and load-balancingJan 24 04:22
schestowitz__better ideaJan 24 04:23
schestowitz__advertise postal addressJan 24 04:23
schestowitz__send usb drives to itJan 24 04:23
schestowitz__downsides: the state can then flag you as receiving leaksJan 24 04:23
DaemonFC[m]It really seems more like Gnutella in concept.Jan 24 04:23
schestowitz__and then open things in transitJan 24 04:23
schestowitz__usb drives can have stuff added to them offlineJan 24 04:23
DaemonFC[m]In the end, all sorts of illegal things ended up on Gnutella and the feds were raiding people and the copyright lawsuits flew.Jan 24 04:23
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: yes, it is like p2pJan 24 04:24
schestowitz__but a bit betterJan 24 04:24
DaemonFC[m]Then, in a way IPFS probably doesn't relate, the hash collisions that allowed people to slip you corrupt files to aggravate you and make you give up trying to use Gnutella.Jan 24 04:24
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: my ISP seems to throttle is really badlyJan 24 04:25
schestowitz__and worse over timeJan 24 04:25
schestowitz__even though total bandwidth is smallJan 24 04:25
schestowitz__seems retaliatoryJan 24 04:25
DaemonFC[m]Now they're using indecency laws to strip amateur porn off the internet.Jan 24 04:25
DaemonFC[m]It's too risky to end up hosting 1 bad file among a million others, so they're getting rid of it. I guess it served its purpose. It got a whole lot of people using a few sites that paid people click pennies to upload their bedroom videos.Jan 24 04:26
DaemonFC[m]You notice that the credit card companies cut off the revenue a couple months before Facebook and Twitter started making political crackdowns?Jan 24 04:26
DaemonFC[m]Not illegal content either. Just they don't want people making non-mainstream political comments.Jan 24 04:27
DaemonFC[m]Now Facebook and Twitter are removing progressive politics. Deplatforming the whole damned thing. It's not going to work out well for them. People will discover the fediverse and give up trying to use the Corporate Shithole Social Media.Jan 24 04:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: It's all related. The porn, the politics.... The purges. It's all designed to turn the web into a sanitized corporate cesspit plus government spooks.Jan 24 04:29
*cybrNaut got kicked off Twitter for warning ppl about the harms of CloudFlareJan 24 04:29
DaemonFC[m]Really?Jan 24 04:29
schestowitz__wowJan 24 04:29
schestowitz__latest 24 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Facebook purges left-wing pages and individuals - World Socialist Web SiteJan 24 04:30
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: The USCIS is cracking down on people who admit they've ever been a Communist.Jan 24 04:31
cybrNautI can only guess.. it was my main activity.  It wasn't a strict boot, but rather "we think you're a robot.. tell us your mobile ph# to continue".  Without the will to go through that red tape, it was in effect like getting kicked offJan 24 04:31
DaemonFC[m]You can't be admitted into the US as a permanent resident if you've been associated with a Communist party. I was joking with the lawyer. "Communist Party? Really....?".Jan 24 04:32
MinceRthey prefer national socialistsJan 24 04:32
schestowitz__ 24 04:33
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DaemonFC[m]I told Mandy that if they ask him if he's been a member of any "organizations" to just say no.Jan 24 04:33
schestowitz__MPAJan 24 04:33
schestowitz__NPA I meanJan 24 04:33
DaemonFC[m]Up through the 80s, being gay made you inadmissable.Jan 24 04:34
DaemonFC[m]And a National Security Threat.Jan 24 04:34
DaemonFC[m]It was based on the concept that being gay is a mental illness and we don't need more crazy people here.Jan 24 04:34
cybrNaut 24 04:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Does Facebook Use Sensitive Data for Advertising Purposes? | January 2021 | Communications of the ACMJan 24 04:35
cybrNaut^Facebook is tracking who is gayJan 24 04:35
cybrNautand there are 12 countries that have the death penalty for being gayJan 24 04:35
cybrNauthopefully FB doesn't rat any of them outJan 24 04:36
DaemonFC[m] 24 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Biden claims โ€œthere is nothing we can doโ€ to halt mass death from coronavirus - World Socialist Web SiteJan 24 04:37
DaemonFC[m]The Chicago Teachers Union is threatening to strike unless the state of Illinois can get them all vaccinated.Jan 24 04:38
schestowitz__โ€œWeโ€™ve Let the Worst Happenโ€: Reflecting on 400,000 Dead the survivors will have their lives massively shortened, tooJan 24 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | โ€œWeโ€™ve Let the Worst Happenโ€: Reflecting on 400,000 Dead โ€” ProPublicaJan 24 04:38
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: what vaccinated?Jan 24 04:38
DaemonFC[m]It can't and it won't even tell them what a reasonable timeline is even though we're "supposedly almost finished with Phase 1a.".Jan 24 04:38
schestowitz__which vaccine?Jan 24 04:38
schestowitz__the experiments?Jan 24 04:38
DaemonFC[m]But Phase 1b is going to be the big problem.Jan 24 04:38
DaemonFC[m]The 1b group is about a dozen times bigger than the 1a group, which took over a month.Jan 24 04:39
DaemonFC[m]Even if we can double the number of people getting vaccinated going forward, it would take 6 months to get through 1b. No less.Jan 24 04:39
DaemonFC[m]So it'll be July or so assuming no hiccups, before anyone under 65 who is not a "frontline worker" (part of 1b) can get a vaccine.Jan 24 04:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: The Biden Administration is using the Defense Production Act to require more production of those syringes that can extract more doses from a vial.Jan 24 04:40
DaemonFC[m]But even if we get as many of those as we need, that only improves the number of doses we can get by 20% of the number of vials being produced vs. the 5 doses they were supposed to contain.Jan 24 04:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: The best way to ration would be to have given it to healthcare workers, but not nursing home residents, and "essential workers" in phase 1a.Jan 24 04:42
DaemonFC[m]Those nursing home residents aren't contributing to spread, they're getting it because the staff is bringing it in with them.Jan 24 04:43
DaemonFC[m]You should shut down the vectoring through the staff and then you free up millions of doses for people who have to go to work and deal with the public.Jan 24 04:43
DaemonFC[m]And part of the reason we're done with 1a so early isn't because we've achieved 100% vaccination. We've gotten maybe 70% of nursing home residents and half the staff members to take the vaccine voluntarily.Jan 24 04:44
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #CommonDreams โ˜ž Opinion | The Scale of Loss: 400,000 Dead 24 04:44
DaemonFC[m]So we're calling it good and moving on, even though this won't stop the nursing home crisis.Jan 24 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | The Scale of Loss: 400,000 DeadJan 24 04:44
DaemonFC[m]Face masks don't seem to be slowing the spread as much as I had hoped.Jan 24 04:45
DaemonFC[m]They seem to be far more effective against the flu than with the coronavirus.Jan 24 04:45
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights โ˜ž #MPA Seeks Network Engineer to Help Expose Online Pirates 24 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MPA Seeks Network Engineer to Help Expose Online Pirates * TorrentFreakJan 24 04:46
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #CopyrightTrolls โ˜ž Anti-Piracy Group: #CopyrightTrolling is a "Stain On The Fight Against Illegal Content" 24 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Group: Copyright Trolling is a "Stain On The Fight Against Illegal Content" * TorrentFreakJan 24 04:46
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: so assuming you need to buy food, how to avoid it?Jan 24 04:47
schestowitz__quieter times at the shops?Jan 24 04:47
DaemonFC[m]No, it's as busy at Walmart as ever.Jan 24 04:47
schestowitz__the cases here grew a lot, I can now assume well over 10% have had it or still have itJan 24 04:48
DaemonFC[m]The state is cracking down on indoor dining even though that's hardly a problem.Jan 24 04:48
schestowitz__so don't go to walmartJan 24 04:48
DaemonFC[m]The virus will spread through whatever is open.Jan 24 04:48
schestowitz__some small locals stores which barely survive can be quiet some days and timesJan 24 04:48
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: That's why I'm trying to get Mandy to take the vaccine.Jan 24 04:48
DaemonFC[m]I'll get it whenever they let me.Jan 24 04:48
schestowitz__what vaccine?Jan 24 04:48
schestowitz__the clinical trials?Jan 24 04:48
DaemonFC[m]Whichever one they have.Jan 24 04:48
schestowitz__sputnik?Jan 24 04:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: COVID has been inching closer and we've been lucky to have avoided it this long.Jan 24 04:49
schestowitz__the results on those experiments are due in summerJan 24 04:49
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: maybe you already had itJan 24 04:49
schestowitz__without symptomsJan 24 04:49
schestowitz__and antibodies tests aren't so reliableJan 24 04:49
schestowitz__esp. if you had it a year agoJan 24 04:49
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #TruthOut โ˜ž #Chicago Teachers Are Voting on Whether to Defy City's Divisive Reopening Plans 24 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chicago Teachers Are Voting on Whether to Defy City's Divisive Reopening PlansJan 24 04:50
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: 24 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Teachers Union Berated Trump for Reopening Schools, Now It's Praising Biden For Doing the SameJan 24 04:51
techrights-botCameron Kaiser: #TenFourFox FPR30 SPR1 available #mozilla #deletegithub #appleJan 24 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | TenFourFox Development: TenFourFox FPR30 SPR1 availableJan 24 04:58
techrights-bot#SeaMonkey on #Pi4 no longer freezes #gnu #linuxJan 24 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SeaMonkey on Pi4 no longer freezesJan 24 05:00
techrights-botNouveau X.Org Driver Sees First Release In Two Years โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ 24 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Nouveau X.Org Driver Sees First Release In Two Years | Tux MachinesJan 24 05:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: I wouldn't link to some of those websites. I'm concerned about the optics at this point.Jan 24 05:03
techrights-bot#Nouveau #XOrg Driver Sees First Release In Two Years โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsJan 24 05:03
DaemonFC[m]Seems if Congress is going to keep making exceptions to the 10 year ban on officers retiring then overseeing the Pentagon, then it should just repeal the law. I suppose it does still do some good.Jan 24 05:04
DaemonFC[m]The House effectively has to confirm the appointment as well.Jan 24 05:04
DaemonFC[m]There's nothing in the Constitution that says that Congress couldn't pass a law requiring the House as well as the Senate to confirm presidential cabinet members. Jan 24 05:05
DaemonFC[m]It just says that Senate confirmation is constitutionally required.Jan 24 05:05
DaemonFC[m]So it's only an exclusive power of the Senate because Congress hasn't passed a law that requires the House to approve it as well.Jan 24 05:06
DaemonFC[m]I think after Trump, we need a law that requires House and Senate approval of Cabinet and judicial appointments.Jan 24 05:06
DaemonFC[m]An additional safeguard certainly couldn't hurt. It's less likely that both chambers of Congress will be under the control of the President's party, so the Democrats would ultimately wield more power under a future Republican presidentJan 24 05:07
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: which sites? TF?Jan 24 05:07
DaemonFC[m]The socialist one.Jan 24 05:08
DaemonFC[m]The US really has some nerve complaining about China's National Security Law and then effectively doing the same thing here.Jan 24 05:08
DaemonFC[m]You notice that Biden wants a Domestic Terror Law, but it seems to me they aren't having any trouble grabbing those people who were at the Capitol Riot.Jan 24 05:09
DaemonFC[m]Or figuring out multiple felony charges, for that matter, and some misdemeanors because why not.Jan 24 05:09
schestowitz__It was not a riotJan 24 05:10
schestowitz__it was insurrectionJan 24 05:10
schestowitz__BLM had riotsJan 24 05:10
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–†โ–ƒโ–‡โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–„ avg(k/sec) 24.11 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–‡โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–„โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–†โ–‡โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ˆโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„ avg(k/sec) 27.35โ–• swarm size (avg): 208.23  โŸฒJan 24 05:10
schestowitz__in some places there would be capital punishment for what people did in the CapitolJan 24 05:10
DaemonFC[m]Nobody is arresting people for speech just yet, but "de-platforming" and ending up on a list is easier I guess.Jan 24 05:10
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: I think the charges a lot of them will face include sedition (20 years), conspiracy (5 years) and 3-4 misdemeanors (a year or so each).Jan 24 05:11
DaemonFC[m]So we may be talking 20-25 years in federal prison, tops.Jan 24 05:11
DaemonFC[m]10-15 with good behavior.Jan 24 05:11
DaemonFC[m]They say there won't be any plea deals. We'll see.Jan 24 05:12
DaemonFC[m]Not doing plea deals is just not how things get done here, but I guess not offering plea deals is a possibility.Jan 24 05:12
techrights-botWhen a lot of people/groups rely on #aws and #facebook or #twitter for their "activism" it'll be people like #bezos #zuckerberg and @jack who will decide (along with the billionaire class) what kind of activism is "permissible"Jan 24 05:18
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: these precedents will be interestingJan 24 05:20
schestowitz__when 'plebs' or 'peasants' as you call them decide to invade or march on oligarchs' homeJan 24 05:20
schestowitz__which they can doJan 24 05:20
schestowitz__what would police do? Open fire on them?Jan 24 05:20
DaemonFC[m]Wouldn't be the first time.Jan 24 05:20
schestowitz__They just rely on socialcontrolmedial for intelJan 24 05:20
DaemonFC[m]People used to get shot at for demanding 40 hour weeks, overtime, and child labor laws.Jan 24 05:21
DaemonFC[m]The oligarchs don't care about any of that. It worked until they passed their free trade deals. Stallman calls them Business Supremacy Treaties.Jan 24 05:22
DaemonFC[m]The working class had their moment in the sun and now, in America, it's like the roaring 20s and the Depression at the same time.Jan 24 05:22
schestowitz__ 24 05:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin - Owners of the Country - YouTubeJan 24 05:22
schestowitz__he mentioned "pension"Jan 24 05:22
schestowitz__and "social security"Jan 24 05:23
DaemonFC[m]A massive jobs and public health crisis while the elite have added another trillion dollars to their wealth.Jan 24 05:23
schestowitz__afaik, that was before 2008  crashJan 24 05:23
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: wealth is powerJan 24 05:23
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: Yeah, you notice how when I try to minimize our taxes to the state, we get called bad things.Jan 24 05:23
schestowitz__so they get even more control on the system, to resist reformJan 24 05:23
schestowitz__this always ends up in riotsJan 24 05:23
DaemonFC[m]When rich people deduct themselves to a few hundred bucks in taxes, it's just "what anyone would do".Jan 24 05:23
DaemonFC[m]It's the law! (their law)Jan 24 05:24
schestowitz__one might jokeJan 24 05:24
schestowitz__and JOKEJan 24 05:24
schestowitz__I mean it totally satiricallyJan 24 05:24
schestowitz__that the COVID lockdown thingJan 24 05:24
schestowitz__is like a drillJan 24 05:24
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: The way I see things is if I can deduct us to zero, good. I'm getting everything we pay for. LOLJan 24 05:24
schestowitz__oligarchs having overstretched capitalism and debtJan 24 05:24
schestowitz__the debt is their wealthJan 24 05:24
schestowitz__they deposit the public debtJan 24 05:25
schestowitz__store it offshoreJan 24 05:25
schestowitz__the virtual currency.. of powerJan 24 05:25
schestowitz__and now they check how to keep people imprisoning themselvesJan 24 05:25
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: If you don't make at least $24,800 as a married couple, you definitely don't pay federal income tax.Jan 24 05:25
schestowitz__while shaming those who leave the home-dash-prisonJan 24 05:25
schestowitz__notice I'm joking hereJan 24 05:25
schestowitz__not suggesting that this is all planned and intendedJan 24 05:25
DaemonFC[m]And if you make between that and about $50,000 then you don't pay more than 2-3%. That's an improvement under Trump.Jan 24 05:26
DaemonFC[m]But the rich made off with a lot more.Jan 24 05:26
schestowitz__but some took the cause-effect and reversed itJan 24 05:26
schestowitz__so covid becomes just "conspriacy"Jan 24 05:26
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: My mom is so ignorant. I told her what Capital Gains tax was and she was outraged.Jan 24 05:26
schestowitz__world power dynamics are shifting and it's painful to manyJan 24 05:26
DaemonFC[m]"You mean if you make it as investment income you pay half the rate I do as a nurse!?"Jan 24 05:26
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah. It's 15% under Trump, and he lowered it from 20%.". She goes, "I pay 28%!!!!".Jan 24 05:27
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, when you find out how the system works, you're not such a fan of those Republican laws anymore are you?".Jan 24 05:27
schestowitz__how much do bezos and gates pay?Jan 24 05:28
schestowitz__40%, right? ;-)Jan 24 05:28
DaemonFC[m]Most rich people aren't clocking in and out at the salt mines, Roy. They make it as "investments" and pay "Capital Gains", and you can deduct from that.Jan 24 05:28
DaemonFC[m]Very creatively deduct. So it's not even 15%. I mentioned that to her too.Jan 24 05:29
schestowitz__"job creators!"Jan 24 05:29
schestowitz__"big government"Jan 24 05:29
schestowitz__"MAGA!"Jan 24 05:29
schestowitz__"jesus saves!"Jan 24 05:29
schestowitz__jesus has a savings accountJan 24 05:29
schestowitz__he savesJan 24 05:29
DaemonFC[m]With his 10% off card from Walmart.Jan 24 05:29
schestowitz__will redeem his pension after the second ressurectionJan 24 05:30
DaemonFC[m]Jesus is nearing your car with your groceries and sex lube.Jan 24 05:30
schestowitz__*ResurrectionJan 24 05:30
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: I'm considering setting up a Roth account for Mandy when this unpleasantness with the USCIS people is over.Jan 24 05:31
DaemonFC[m]I don't see the point of using a pre-tax retirement savings account when you're already paying very low tax rates and they'll probably go up in the future.Jan 24 05:32
techrights-bot#bt refund of 29.99 pounds is still due, not showing up in my account at all, instead they just bill me for some of their failed attempts to 'fix' their own problems. What utter failure of a service. #btukJan 24 05:32
DaemonFC[m]It's a better idea for most people who can save right now to do a Roth because the rates in the future will have to be higher to fund the government.Jan 24 05:33
DaemonFC[m]The debt it's accumulating now is going to be quite painful when rates rise.Jan 24 05:33
DaemonFC[m]So they're going to crack down harder on the middle class.Jan 24 05:33
DaemonFC[m]Illinois middle class getting a sneak preview with that Tax Hike Bill that takes away your standard deduction at a certain income level. It'll get worse. The Progressive Tax failed, but there are now court-upheld ways of raising taxes and calling them "flat".Jan 24 05:34
DaemonFC[m]The Madigan Tax Hike didn't use that particular provision to raise much revenue. There simply aren't enough individuals in Illinois making over $250,000 that getting $117 out of each of them is going to make any real difference to the state.Jan 24 05:36
DaemonFC[m]It was about establishing that a phase out is constitutional and that "See, it sucks for them too." even when it was more about a 26% permanent tax increase for everyone else.Jan 24 05:37
schestowitz__Roth? what's that except german red?Jan 24 05:37
DaemonFC[m]A Roth IRA is where you put money that's already been taxed into an investment account for retirement. Then assuming you take it out after a certain age, the investment gains are not subject to being taxed again. They've been around since 1997 and were named after a US Senator who introduced the law.Jan 24 05:39
DaemonFC[m]A Traditional IRA is where you put money in, deduct that money from your taxes this year, and then the whole thing is taxable later on.Jan 24 05:39
DaemonFC[m]When you go to withdraw it. Jan 24 05:39
DaemonFC[m]It's mostly a choice based on where your tax rates are now, how well you think the market will perform, and what you think tax rates will be in the future.Jan 24 05:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: I'd say lower than average market returns and higher taxes in the future. Jan 24 05:41
DaemonFC[m]There's going to come a time where what's going on in the real economy can no longer be covered up by bailouts and a central bank funding zombie corporations.Jan 24 05:43
DaemonFC[m]It took the Nikkei 225 30 years just to get back to where it was in 1990, but if you factor in inflation, it's about level with where it was then.Jan 24 05:44
DaemonFC[m]In other words, no growth at all.Jan 24 05:44
schestowitz__well, I withdraw an old pension of mine nowJan 24 05:56
schestowitz__they might go under in the futureJan 24 05:56
schestowitz__there's a massive tax on early withdrawalJan 24 05:56
schestowitz__but better that than noneJan 24 05:57
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: Yes, whatever income tax bracket that plus your normal salary puts you in plus a 10% flat tax on the early retirement withdrawal on top of that part.Jan 24 05:58
DaemonFC[m]If you are not at least 59.5 years old.Jan 24 05:59
DaemonFC[m]Taking a very large dispersal mostly hits you if it sends that part of your income into a higher bracket.Jan 24 06:00
DaemonFC[m]So if you can take out some of it this year and some next year to avoid a higher bracket in each tax year, then at least you'll just pay your normal tax rate on the money plus the 10% penalty, but it will still be bad.Jan 24 06:01
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: There's exceptions.Jan 24 06:01
DaemonFC[m]If you can show the IRS you took the money out to pay a huge medical bill, it just gets taxed at the income rate it put you in, and then you might be able to deduct some of the medical bill too if you're itemizing instead of taking the standard deduction.Jan 24 06:02
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in 24 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 24 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsJan 24 06:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: Better to file bankruptcy if it's so bad it'll drain your retirement account though. Usually, your retirement plans are off limits to the bankruptcy court even if they'd be above your exemptions if they were something else.Jan 24 06:04
techrights-bot#Games Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Games Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 24 06:06
DaemonFC[m]US bankruptcy law is really geared towards helping people who had a disaster and no way to pay it back. It's not designed to help the Maricels out there who make six figures a year and should have been more fiscally conservative.Jan 24 06:07
DaemonFC[m]She could file a different kind of bankruptcy that restructures it into payments with less interest, but ultimately it gets paid back.Jan 24 06:08
techrights-bot#Security and #ProprietarySoftware โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux MachinesJan 24 06:08
schestowitz__duct tape on a bad systemJan 24 06:09
schestowitz__to give it more shelf lifeJan 24 06:09
schestowitz__before it collapsesJan 24 06:09
schestowitz__ 24 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Alexei Navalny: 'More than 3,000 detained' in protests across Russia - BBC NewsJan 24 06:09
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–… avg(k/sec) 20.58 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ˆโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–… avg(k/sec) 19.25โ–• swarm size (avg): 209.63  โŸฒJan 24 06:10
techrights-botNew in #Linux 5.12 โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KernelJan 24 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | New in Linux 5.12 | Tux MachinesJan 24 06:12
schestowitz__Russia is now a poor countryJan 24 06:13
schestowitz__same for the USJan 24 06:13
schestowitz__they're looted countriesJan 24 06:13
schestowitz__it's a scam, a pyramidJan 24 06:13
schestowitz__and more people are catching on/upJan 24 06:13
schestowitz__*Russia is notJan 24 06:13
schestowitz__the wealth is also in national assets, untappedJan 24 06:14
techrights-botPatent Docs just now: "IPO Webinar on Diversity & Inclusion in the IP Legal Profession" The #blackmail and #extortion artists hijack "Diversity & Inclusion" in the name of increasing the parasitic activity while self-identifying as "Ethical"Jan 24 06:17
techrights-bot#swpats and #ibm backed lobby IPO is also promoting and celebrating ILLEGAL #epo practices, which go against the #law but help enrich the #patent profiteers 24 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Videoconferencing at the EPOJan 24 06:18
techrights-bot7 Linux Distros to Look Forward in 2021 โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 7 Linux Distros to Look Forward in 2021 | Tux MachinesJan 24 06:21
techrights-botTodayโ€™s ๐“๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐Œ๐š๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 24 06:27
techrights-botLinks 24/1/2021: #Nouveau XOrg Driver Release and GhostBSD 21.01.20 โ€ข sส‡ษฅฦƒฤฑษนษฅษ”วส‡ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 24 06:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 24/1/2021: Nouveau X.Org Driver Release and GhostBSD 21.01.20 | TechrightsJan 24 06:32
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: Well, workers are having such awful conditions now that 2,000 Instacart workers voted to unionize and Instacart fired them for it, illegally.Jan 24 07:00
DaemonFC[m]Normally, the National Labor Relations Board could sort this out and would rule against Instacart and force them to hire those people back or assess some sort of damages on their behalf, but Trump didn't want it to function so he didn't appoint enough board members for it to legally decide cases.Jan 24 07:01
DaemonFC[m]Biden needs to immediately get people confirmed to the NLRB and the Federal Elections Commission so that they can get a quorum and function again.Jan 24 07:02
DaemonFC[m]The FEC can start looking into Trump's PACs and his campaign. Better late than never.Jan 24 07:02
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–ƒโ–…โ–ƒโ–†โ–„โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–… avg(k/sec) 26.61 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–…โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–ƒโ–โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–‚โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–‚โ–‚โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 21.18โ–• swarm size (avg): 222.47  โŸฒJan 24 07:10
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: Gig workers get fucked six ways to Sunday. The worst part of it is if you're a regular employee and get a W-2 for your tax form, your employer must pay half your Social Security and Medicare taxes.Jan 24 07:27
DaemonFC[m]But if you're a 1099 "contractor", you are responsible for the full amount.Jan 24 07:28
DaemonFC[m]If you are an employee, you probably at least get offered health insurance, and your employer probably pays at least 60-66% of it.Jan 24 07:28
DaemonFC[m]If you're a 1099 worker, you have to find a private plan or sign up for obamacare or medicaid or something.Jan 24 07:28
DaemonFC[m]Lots of advantages, like if they're a contractor and get hurt, you don't have to cover it or pay workman's comp. So all of these companies just say they're a tech company and they're not responsible for anything. They screw you, they screw the government. They make billions with an app.Jan 24 07:31
DaemonFC[m]Little Caesar's (a pizza chain) decided to save money by not having delivery drivers anymore. If you get a pizza, they just have Doordash pick it up for you.Jan 24 07:32
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schestowitz__hmm..Jan 24 07:56
schestowitz__don't see why people still order like thatJan 24 07:56
schestowitz__there are risks associatedJan 24 07:56
schestowitz__not just costs and loss of freshnessJan 24 07:57
schestowitz__but the dining sector is trying to get creative to surviveJan 24 07:57
techrights-botPromotion of the #HEYHI ("AI") loophole for #softwarepatents where these are clearly not legal 24 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Patent Docs: Webinars on IP Law and Strategy for AI in EuropeJan 24 07:59
techrights-bot#IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 23, 2021 โ€ข sส‡ษฅฦƒฤฑษนษฅษ”วส‡ โ‡จ 24 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 23, 2021 | TechrightsJan 24 08:02
DaemonFC[m] 24 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Two former Trump officials to be investigated for posting papers denying climate change - CNNPoliticsJan 24 08:06
DaemonFC[m] 24 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DoorDash and UberEats are raising prices on some takeout orders - CNNJan 24 08:08
techrights-bot#bt #throttling became really bad as they cannot cope with a congested network. " Why should I pay 2020 prices for 1990 internet speeds? The speed test always comes back with 4.5 mb/sec and the diagnostic tool always crashes the bt dsl router." 24 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Broadband throttling - BT CommunityJan 24 08:08
DaemonFC[m]Chicago and some other cities tried limiting how much Doordash and Ubereats could charge restaurants, to try to help restaurants who are not doing well, and so both companies started imposing a "$1 Chicago fee" on orders and charging it to customers.Jan 24 08:09
DaemonFC[m]Even though, you would guess, being a tech company with not actual costs, which imposes all of the problems onto their drivers, they would be making more money these days even with the caps.Jan 24 08:09
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–†โ–† avg(k/sec) 26.93 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–†โ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–ˆโ–„โ–…โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–ˆโ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 24.15โ–• swarm size (avg): 238.52  โŸฒJan 24 08:10
techrights-botSo I'm not alone in suffering from #bt #throttling (insanely slow and they refuse to fix it). "And people ask me why I left the UK 25 years ago. Sigh." 24 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Broadband throttling - BT CommunityJan 24 08:11
techrights-bot1 day after #lockdowns started in the #uk it seems like #bt very clearly capped people (and thus failed to deliver on their side of the contract). "Why BT start throttling internet without my acknowledge ?" 24 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Looks like BT start throttling fibre 2 unlimited p... - BT CommunityJan 24 08:13
techrights-bot"I have used 3 different modems and all yield same results. Daily throttling By BT!" We wasted billions on #brexit shambles instead of investing in #internet infra ahead of #covid19 24 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | BT Infinity 2 download speed being throttled daily... - BT CommunityJan 24 08:14
techrights-bot"Ofcom would not be interested unless you receive a deadlock letter from BT, to say they cannot provide the service promised." 3 days ago #BT told me they'd send me such a letter. I'm still waiting. 24 08:15
techrights-botThe #bt forums keep lying for BT. Like climate change deniers. I suppose they manipulate their own forums to say they are "no longer" #throttling (and some mention #p2p etc.). But that's a lie. They're capping, shaping, throttling. More so during lockdowns.Jan 24 08:22
techrights-botExploiting a #pandemic like they exploit their gig 'workers' [sic] 24 08:24
techrights-botTrying to get arrogant ISPs to just admit they shape, cap and throttle connections in a discriminatory fashion (to protect their monopolistic partners) is like trying to get #trump to admit he lost the electionJan 24 08:26
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz I used to use DSL but no building wired for phone since Chicago.Jan 24 08:50
DaemonFC[m]I can see why they were skeptical of you using a landline though. Most people here argue they don't want one even if it is only $4 a month on their DSL bill.Jan 24 08:51
DaemonFC[m] 24 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft backtracks on Xbox Live Gold price hike - The VergeJan 24 08:53
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz, Microsoft got flamed for trying to double the price of Xbox live. It said current subscribers as of the price hike date would stay at the old price. Makes you wonder if they were trying to cause people to panic and sign up and not drop it because they'd get the higher price if they came back.Jan 24 08:55
DaemonFC[m]They must be doing okay. With the pandemic and all the people playing video games and popping antidepressants.Jan 24 08:56
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–†โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–… avg(k/sec) 32.03 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚โ–…โ–ˆโ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–‡โ–†โ–„ avg(k/sec) 21.46โ–• swarm size (avg): 253.92  โŸฒJan 24 09:10
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techrights-botData Point: #GNU / #Linux Share in Desktops/Laptops Nearly Tripled in the Past Decade, Peaking This Past Month (All-Time High) 24 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Data Point: GNU/Linux Share in Desktops/Laptops Nearly Tripled in the Past Decade, Peaking This Past Month (All-Time High) | TechrightsJan 24 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GNU/Linux Market Share - TechrightsJan 24 11:09
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techrights-botAs Andrei #Iancu Removes Himself From the #Patent and Trademark Office All Eyes Are on #Biden โ€™s Next Nomination #usptoJan 24 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | As Andrei Iancu Removes Himself From the Patent and Trademark Office All Eyes Are on Bidenโ€™s Next Nomination | TechrightsJan 24 11:30
techrights-botMany #techrights articles about the #uspto during the #trump years 24 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | USPTO - TechrightsJan 24 11:31
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techrights-bot#SocialControlMedia is a Passing Fad, We Should All Go Back to Blogging and Subscribing to RSS Feeds โ€ข sส‡ษฅฦƒฤฑษนษฅษ”วส‡ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 24 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media is a Passing Fad, We Should All Go Back to Blogging and Subscribing to RSS Feeds | TechrightsJan 24 11:59
techrights-botOh, wow. #microsoft has just admitted that in 2019 #github saw a very significant decline in number of new projects and users on the site. Just what I had heard before they confirmed it. #deletegithubJan 24 12:02
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–„ avg(k/sec) 30.36 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–‡โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‡โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–‡ avg(k/sec) 21.71โ–• swarm size (avg): 242.67  โŸฒJan 24 12:10
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techrights-bot#Microsoft : The Year After We Bought #GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub #DeleteGithubJan 24 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | TechrightsJan 24 12:14
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psydroid<DaemonFC[m] "schestowitz, Microsoft got flame"> schestowitz said that xbox is also losing money, so I am wondering which part of the company is earning any moneyJan 24 12:50
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schestowitz__psydroid: the bailout departmentJan 24 12:51
schestowitz__ 24 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | TechrightsJan 24 12:51
psydroidalso what you said about Intel being hacked early this morning, that would be big if it came out (maybe it already did)Jan 24 12:53
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schestowitz__ 24 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | XBox Reality Log - TechrightsJan 24 12:57
schestowitz__mind you, page out of dateJan 24 12:58
schestowitz__I have not tracked Microsoft much for a decadeJan 24 12:58
schestowitz__but it's expensive being in the console marketJan 24 12:58
schestowitz__to just sell your shite against the Japanese giants you need to spend BILLIONS in marketing and "incentives"Jan 24 12:58
schestowitz__otherwise you stand no chance and never get off the ground, nobody develops for the platformJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__so it's a big gamble, same for AzureJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__which failed, obviouslyJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__layoffsJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__investment on the big, losses also on the big, stillJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__Years ago you had MSFT boosters saying Azure would catch up with AWS within yearsJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__not it's a farceJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__like all those "UPC coming soon" pieces from the past 7-8 yearsJan 24 12:59
schestowitz__zoobab: ^Jan 24 12:59
schestowitz__[12:53] <psydroid> also what you said about Intel being hacked early this morning, that would be big if it came out (maybe it already did)Jan 24 13:00
schestowitz__ 24 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Intel: Intel avoids outsourcing embrace, investigates hack of results, IT News, ET CIOJan 24 13:00
schestowitz__"Financial Times quoting its chief financial officer as saying the microchip maker had been [cracked]" Jan 24 13:00
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–„ avg(k/sec) 30.36 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–‡โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‡โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–‡ avg(k/sec) 21.71โ–• swarm size (avg): 237.54  โŸฒJan 24 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | List of best-selling game consoles - WikipediaJan 24 13:11
vZS1_2The big names don't have real security hackers to protect them. Too busy circlejerking over their "antivirus" software. :DJan 24 13:12
psydroidlooking at this it would take decades for Xbox to make any kind of impact on the world of consoles, so I am wondering what was the actual plan behind starting that divisionJan 24 13:12
techrights-botIn 2020 Onwards โ€™Open Sourceโ€™ is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software โ€ข sส‡ษฅฦƒฤฑษนษฅษ”วส‡ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #openwashingJan 24 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | In 2020 Onwards โ€˜Open Sourceโ€™ is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software | TechrightsJan 24 13:12
schestowitz__psydroid: testing DRM on devicesJan 24 13:13
schestowitz__locked-down hardware as productJan 24 13:13
schestowitz__iophk keeps telling me...Jan 24 13:14
schestowitz__hardware can be sold at high priceJan 24 13:14
schestowitz__the price of windows licence is now negative sometimesJan 24 13:14
schestowitz__i.e. Microsoft PAYS firms to put Windows on thingsJan 24 13:14
vZS1_2A lot of them run unhardened GNU/Linux distributions and many straight up install MalwareOS(Windows). It's no surprised they get hacked.Jan 24 13:15
schestowitz__psydroid: it is even worse than I thought. Nintendo sold like SIX times as many as the xbox seriesJan 24 13:15
schestowitz__mayeb they count the early ones alsoJan 24 13:15
schestowitz__brbJan 24 13:15
schestowitz__trying to do many articles today...Jan 24 13:16
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schestowitz__vZS1_2: thanks for mirroring or shadowing our IPFS CIDsJan 24 13:16
schestowitz__it's almost untenable to have it on except when away or alseepJan 24 13:16
vZS1_2But the worst vulnerability is staff that are not security conscious. No expert can save you from a bunch of uneducated dolts.Jan 24 13:16
schestowitz__BT becomes more aggressive with the throttling over timeJan 24 13:16
schestowitz__vZS1_2: what do you make of Alex Stamos?Jan 24 13:17
schestowitz__Facebook et alJan 24 13:17
schestowitz__hailed like some championJan 24 13:17
schestowitz__and now hired for PR stunts by other evil companiesJan 24 13:17
vZS1_2Never heard of himJan 24 13:17
schestowitz__along with Microsofter KerbsJan 24 13:17
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schestowitz__*ChrisJan 24 13:17
schestowitz__not BrianJan 24 13:17
schestowitz__some of these overhyped fools get massive salariesJan 24 13:17
schestowitz__even if they do the most unethical thingsJan 24 13:18
schestowitz__at companies that steal dataJan 24 13:18
vZS1_2schestowitz__: re: IPFS, yw. I'll mirror what I can.Jan 24 13:18
schestowitz__hailed in the media like some security iconsJan 24 13:18
schestowitz__it's incredibleJan 24 13:18
schestowitz__he blocks me in Twitter just because I mentioned his nameJan 24 13:18
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vZS1_2I don't think you can call putting spyware-oriented telemetry security. It's the opposite of security.Jan 24 13:18
schestowitz__I am waiting for BT to send us the "deadlock" letter so I can proceed to OfcomJan 24 13:20
vZS1_2But we have an industry where people think log aggregation is a security product. So make of that what you will.Jan 24 13:20
psydroidwhen I set up a networking environment for a friend of mine I set up a gateway with multiple separate networks (wan, lan, dmz) and with firewalls on every computer so they wouldn't even trust each other. Of course Google has the experts to do it more professionally, but you would expect a company of Intel's size to have that kind of knowledge among its staff as well.Jan 24 13:20
schestowitz__Intel has "Dee Aze"Jan 24 13:21
schestowitz__"Dee Axe"Jan 24 13:21
vZS1_2psydroid: good packet filtering is always important.Jan 24 13:21
schestowitz__and SxJan 24 13:21
schestowitz__Security eXperienceJan 24 13:21
schestowitz__it feels like securityJan 24 13:21
schestowitz__you feel the experienceJan 24 13:21
schestowitz__expensive things like solarwindJan 24 13:21
Techrights-secThe letter is something they will likely drag their feet on as much as possible..Jan 24 13:22
schestowitz__3 days and counting. They have not yet issued the refund/compensation, either.Jan 24 13:22
vZS1_2If you want to start building a good packet policy, I always say block every thing and then allow only what's necessary.Jan 24 13:23
vZS1_2Then you can put end-to-end encryption over that just to go the extra mile.Jan 24 13:23
vZS1_2There's an old security mantra: you can't enumerate badness. So enumerate goodness instead.Jan 24 13:24
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vZS1_2If you've got a public-facing component, make sure that's isolated from everything else. Relay information to it over a private network.Jan 24 13:25
psydroidyes, that's exactly what I tend to doJan 24 13:25
vZS1_2A lot of the basics are common sense, really.Jan 24 13:25
vZS1_2The hard work is keeping up with vulnerabilities in the toolchain. That's a full-time job.Jan 24 13:27
psydroidI bet when he switched back to Windows all of that went overboard and the problems from a decade earlier returned, but I wasn't around anymore to help out at that pointJan 24 13:27
vZS1_2Need to stay up-to-date with the source and bug-trackers.Jan 24 13:28
vZS1_2You can't do that on Windows so it's already a failure.Jan 24 13:28
psydroidI still find it hard to believe that you would rip out working solutions due to a lack of skills and choose inferior non-solutions insteadJan 24 13:28
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 24 13:29
psydroidespecially in hospitals as was featured on TR several times last yearJan 24 13:29
vZS1_2That's because they are managed by people who buy PR from the marketing companies.Jan 24 13:30
techrights-botHow #freesw is helping solve the #plastic #pollution problem โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #plasticsJan 24 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How open source is helping solve the plastic pollution problem | Tux MachinesJan 24 13:30
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schestowitz__vZS1_2: nobody gets fired for stockpiling brochures :-)Jan 24 13:31
Techrights-secWith the letter you can escalate the issue to Ofcom, and thatJan 24 13:32
Techrights-secis what they wish to delay.Jan 24 13:32
techrights-bot#SongRec updated to 0.1.2 in #PCLinuxOS #gnu #linuxJan 24 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux MachinesJan 24 13:36
techrights-botContrary to what some publishers try to tell us, #GNU / #Linux is still growing and mostly at the expense of #Windows 24 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Data Point: GNU/Linux Share in Desktops/Laptops Nearly Tripled in the Past Decade, Peaking This Past Month (All-Time High) | TechrightsJan 24 13:38
vZS1_2Also, when you have governments and some influential companies hell-bent on the compromise of every legitimate security project out there, you can't expect the field to be in a good state.Jan 24 13:38
techrights-bot#Patent zealots and their front groups already lobby Joe #Biden to put one of them in charge of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office; weโ€™ll soon see if Joe Biden โ€œmeans businessโ€ or simply means monopoly/large corporations (and their law firms/departments) 24 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | As Andrei Iancu Removes Himself From the Patent and Trademark Office All Eyes Are on Bidenโ€™s Next Nomination | TechrightsJan 24 13:39
vZS1_2In 2020 alone, I've seen at least 2 attempts by government actors to ban real end-to-end encryption outright.Jan 24 13:40
techrights-botThe whole #socialcontrolmedia phenomenon has been oversold or promoted using lies; in reality, as a mountain of evidence serves to show, itโ€™s a way to manage society at a macro scale 24 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media is a Passing Fad, We Should All Go Back to Blogging and Subscribing to RSS Feeds | TechrightsJan 24 13:40
vZS1_2Under the guise of fake encryption like "special access".Jan 24 13:41
techrights-bot#Microsoft has just admitted that in 2019 #GitHub saw a very significant decline in number of new project #deletegithubJan 24 13:41
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vZS1_2Misleading the public with the fake encryption provided by apps like WhatsApp.Jan 24 13:42
techrights-botMore people are nowadays seeing or witnessing #OpenSource for what it truly is; the term has become a misleading #marketing term of #proprietarysoftware firms looking to rebrand as โ€œethicalโ€ 24 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | In 2020 Onwards โ€˜Open Sourceโ€™ is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software | TechrightsJan 24 13:42
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vZS1_2Like this bullshitJan 24 13:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-International statement: End-to-end encryption and public safety - GOV.UKJan 24 13:43
schestowitz__:-)Jan 24 13:43
schestowitz__gov.youOKAY mate?Jan 24 13:43
schestowitz__"sure, just put back doors on this "hacker thing"..."Jan 24 13:43
schestowitz__when citizens exercising privacy is a crimeJan 24 13:44
schestowitz__you know you may be governed by criminalsJan 24 13:44
vZS1_2It's always "terrorism" and "child porn".Jan 24 13:44
vZS1_2When they want to ban real end-to-end encryption.Jan 24 13:44
vZS1_2A lot of the public are moronic enough to buy it.Jan 24 13:45
techrights-bot#clickbait case: "The facts of Case I ZR 120/19 concern an online TV guide, which used images of four popular television presenters, including Gรผnther Jauch, in a Facebook post on 18 August 2015." 24 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Germany's Federal Court of Justice gives weight to celebrity consent to media image use - The IPKatJan 24 13:45
vZS1_2But you can be a Blackwater war criminal and get a presidential pardon.Jan 24 13:45
schestowitz__[13:44] <vZS1_2> It's always "terrorism" and "child porn".Jan 24 13:46
vZS1_2But if you want privacy, you're either a "terrorist" or a "pedophile".Jan 24 13:46
schestowitz__sometimes "Drugs" and other thingsJan 24 13:46
schestowitz__we need an ecronymJan 24 13:46
schestowitz__for all the patterns usedJan 24 13:46
vZS1_2I can't find the US paper trying to ban encryption. I'll link it if I remember.Jan 24 13:46
schestowitz__"money laundering", "revenge porn"Jan 24 13:46
vZS1_2s/US/USA/Jan 24 13:47
schestowitz__US of nowhere nowJan 24 13:47
schestowitz__they lost alliesJan 24 13:47
schestowitz__Biden is not repairing relationsJan 24 13:47
vZS1_2This is a binary situation. You either have the real thing or its fake.Jan 24 13:47
schestowitz__ 24 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cuba, Hip Hop and American Imperialism - CounterPunch.orgJan 24 13:47
vZS1_2The state actors keep trying to lie to the public about the binary nature of the situation.Jan 24 13:48
vZS1_2s/its/it's/Jan 24 13:48
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schestowitz__"Trumpโ€™s desire to destroy the Paris Agreement, Iran Deal, normalized Cuba ties, etc. Not to express any philosophy of international relations, because he doesnโ€™t have one or the mind to create oneโ€”but to vent spleen.)"Jan 24 13:48
schestowitz__vZS1_2: "nothing to hide"Jan 24 13:49
schestowitz__say people who drone you for exposing something you hidJan 24 13:49
schestowitz__*they hidJan 24 13:49
schestowitz__anyway, we can all agree privacy is about controlJan 24 13:50
schestowitz__or autonomyJan 24 13:50
schestowitz__and there are many other ways to put itJan 24 13:50
schestowitz__taking away privacy means exercising power over peopleJan 24 13:50
schestowitz__in the old tribes it was the sameJan 24 13:50
schestowitz__and right not it's asymmetric and disproportionalJan 24 13:51
schestowitz__we have no privacyJan 24 13:51
schestowitz__except few of usJan 24 13:51
schestowitz__jailed for leaking one doc (Reality Winner et al)Jan 24 13:51
schestowitz__but when they steal GIGABYTES of our personal data from our machine nobody gets arrestedJan 24 13:51
schestowitz__it's just "keeping us safe"Jan 24 13:51
vZS1_2"National security"Jan 24 13:51
schestowitz__(GCHQ, NSA, BND...)Jan 24 13:52
schestowitz__vZS1_2: National Socialists' Job SecurityJan 24 13:52
vZS1_2The push against them is there. It's doing well. We just need to keep up the heat.Jan 24 13:53
schestowitz__covid-19 gives people time to study cryptoJan 24 13:53
schestowitz__and to set things upJan 24 13:53
schestowitz__but no guests allowedJan 24 13:54
schestowitz__this means more chances to intercept commsJan 24 13:54
schestowitz__less face-to-face "going dark"Jan 24 13:54
schestowitz__icymi, "going dark" is also you chatting to somewhat at the officeJan 24 13:54
schestowitz__you "go dark"... they don't have a record of the chatJan 24 13:54
vZS1_2I don't know about you but people stopped paying attention to the lockdowns here.Jan 24 13:54
schestowitz__You COULD be plotting a terror attack !!Jan 24 13:54
schestowitz__vZS1_2: we're introvertsJan 24 13:55
vZS1_2They can't keep people penned up inside for over a year.Jan 24 13:55
schestowitz__as long as the gym is shut, we don't have interest in walking around much (stores shut anyway, they'd be fined for not obeying)Jan 24 13:55
vZS1_2Yeah. It's mostly the "non-essential" stores you see shut down.Jan 24 13:55
schestowitz__"156,992 COVID-19 deaths based on Current projection scenario by May 1, 2021" https://covid19.healthdata.orgJan 24 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | COVID-19Jan 24 13:55
schestowitz__this is newJan 24 13:55
schestowitz__watch the chart, vZS1_2Jan 24 13:55
schestowitz__click and seeJan 24 13:55
schestowitz__I like the "vaccine" partJan 24 13:55
schestowitz__they show it has having miniscule effectJan 24 13:56
vZS1_2Crap. I forgot to enable my multiplexer. Gimme a sec.Jan 24 13:56
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schestowitz__ minuscule Jan 24 13:56
schestowitz__might as well say "mass maskingJan 24 13:56
schestowitz__rather than "mass 'vaccination Jan 24 13:56
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schestowitz__I forgot to close those quotes, but nmJan 24 13:58
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MinceRlol @ security experienceJan 24 14:16
schestowitz__glad you liked thatJan 24 14:16
schestowitz__but you spelled it wrongJan 24 14:16
schestowitz__it's eXperienceJan 24 14:16
schestowitz__with an X Jan 24 14:16
schestowitz__it's more cool that wayJan 24 14:16
schestowitz__now get your mac and you yubikeyJan 24 14:17
schestowitz__we're going placesJan 24 14:17
schestowitz__eXperiences with $700 piece of kludgeJan 24 14:17
schestowitz__that proves you're serious about security because you have a receipt Jan 24 14:17
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vZS1_2Finally sent some doc patches I was supposed to send at the start of the week. lolJan 24 14:18
vZS1_2SXJan 24 14:20
vZS1_2Do you need to wear protection for that as well?Jan 24 14:20
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psydroidisn't that more of a topic for #sexrights?Jan 24 14:33
schestowitz__psydroid: latex onlyJan 24 14:36
schestowitz__or plain textJan 24 14:36
schestowitz__utf-8Jan 24 14:36
vZS1_2psydroid: Security eXperience. May possibly belong in #sexrights.Jan 24 14:38
schestowitz__Assange was prosecuted or at least persecuted for not using protectionJan 24 14:39
vZS1_2What's the status of the Assange case?Jan 24 14:40
vZS1_2Last I read that there was an appeal.Jan 24 14:41
schestowitz__appeal filedJan 24 14:41
schestowitz__by USJan 24 14:41
schestowitz__yes, I read in 3 placesJan 24 14:41
karolyi[m]<schestowitz__ ""156,992 COVID-19 deaths based o"> "proudly brought to you by the CDC and WHO, who never been wrong about anything"Jan 24 14:41
karolyi[m]at this point all I look at is the euromomo site with the all-cause mortality dataJan 24 14:42
vZS1_2It's Sleepy Joe's administration now. Let's see how he deals with the "high-tech terrorist" (his own words).Jan 24 14:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Graphs and maps โ€” EUROMOMOJan 24 14:44
techrights-botWhen #ProprietarySoftware Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities #freeswJan 24 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | When Proprietary Software Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities | TechrightsJan 24 14:47
schestowitz__vZS1_2: maybe McConnel'sJan 24 14:48
schestowitz__Compare 24 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assange a high-tech terrorist: Biden - YouTubeJan 24 14:48
karolyi[m]about sleepy joe: 24 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BAMAPERRY: Someone telling Joe Biden through an ear piece to salute the marines, instead of saluting he says, "salute the mariโ€ฆ 24 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BAMAPERRY: Someone telling Joe Biden through an ear piece to salute the marines, instead of saluting he says, "salute the mariโ€ฆ 24 14:48
schestowitz__ to 24 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet The Press McConnell- Assange is a 'high-tech terrorist' - YouTubeJan 24 14:48
schestowitz__karolyi[m]: tweets as sources :-)Jan 24 14:49
karolyi[m]I mean, it's a video, see for yourself, probably you haven't even clicked just stated somethingJan 24 14:49
karolyi[m]up to youJan 24 14:50
schestowitz__I want to be sure if's authentic, that's allJan 24 14:50
schestowitz__I saw lots of fakes out thereJan 24 14:50
schestowitz__he doesn't appear to have a pieceJan 24 14:51
schestowitz__maybe he doesJan 24 14:51
schestowitz__and the video is very coarseJan 24 14:51
schestowitz__so that could be added post-hocJan 24 14:51
schestowitz__twitter is not reliable, that's just my pointJan 24 14:51
schestowitz__lots of Trump lies there, now removed years lateJan 24 14:51
karolyi[m]is a youtube more reliable or you will only believe it if you've been there personally? 24 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Salute The Marines - Biden's Earpiece Fail - YouTubeJan 24 14:52
vZS1_2So they both called him a "high-tech terrorist"Jan 24 14:52
schestowitz__ 24 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tweets Are Not Journalism But Succinct Unverified Hearsay; Time to Treat Them Accordingly | TechrightsJan 24 14:52
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schestowitz__I will need to start ignoring some peopleJan 24 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | โ€˜Good-looking Marinesโ€™: Video misrepresents Biden at inauguration - The Washington PostJan 24 14:53
schestowitz__to reduce s/n ratioJan 24 14:53
schestowitz__vZS1_2: not sureJan 24 14:53
schestowitz__seems like he was asked about AssangeJan 24 14:53
schestowitz__the phrase comes upJan 24 14:53
schestowitz__and he says it's more like that than with EllsbergJan 24 14:54
vZS1_2It did sound to me like he said "Salute the marines".Jan 24 14:54
schestowitz__McConnell seems to have been the originaklJan 24 14:54
schestowitz__vZS1_2: maybe manipulatedJan 24 14:54
schestowitz__social control media is NOT reliableJan 24 14:54
schestowitz__as I said earlierJan 24 14:54
schestowitz__ 24 14:54
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schestowitz__ 24 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Was Biden Receiving Instructions Through Hidden Earpiece at Inauguration?Jan 24 14:55
schestowitz__"Jan 24 14:55
schestowitz__The C-Span footage that is being cited as evidence of Biden's secret earpiece does not actually prove the social media users' claim. There is no indication from the clip that Biden was wearing a hidden headset and taking orders through it and it is not clear what exactly he said, either.Jan 24 14:55
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schestowitz__Several Twitter users pointed out that they heard Biden say, "Good looking Marines."Jan 24 14:55
schestowitz__"That's a more reasonable explanation tha(n) 'Biden had a secret earpiece yesterday, only once accidentally repeated his Deep State instructions, and a random guy noticed it,'" Washington Post reporter Dave Weigel, who often debunks manipulated media on his Twitter feed, wrote.Jan 24 14:55
schestowitz__"Jan 24 14:55
schestowitz__It';s another useless waste-of-time debateJan 24 14:55
vZS1_2"I would argue that's it's closer to being a high-tech terrorist..."Jan 24 14:55
vZS1_2He did say thatJan 24 14:55
schestowitz__yeahJan 24 14:56
schestowitz__I posted that as OGG in TRJan 24 14:56
schestowitz__last yearJan 24 14:56
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schestowitz__among other Biden videosJan 24 14:56
schestowitz__where he's with Bush and McCainJan 24 14:56
vZS1_2Either way, he is an enemy of the freedom of pressJan 24 14:56
schestowitz__ 24 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Recent Techrights Articles About President Joe Biden | TechrightsJan 24 14:56
schestowitz__Internet is full of garbageJan 24 14:57
vZS1_2Assange was persecuted under his watch. Biden is an espionage insider. Has deep ties to the NSA, CIA, etc.Jan 24 14:57
schestowitz__twitter I've ruled out as a source ages agoJan 24 14:57
schestowitz__unless the poster is some official channelJan 24 14:57
schestowitz__like media company that still sort of tries to at least affirm authnticityJan 24 14:58
schestowitz__never mind if they spin thingsJan 24 14:58
vZS1_2I see way too many people defending Biden like it's some sort of thing to be thankful for. "Not Trump" is not a standard to pursue.Jan 24 14:58
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schestowitz__"On the contrary, the social media claims resemble past conspiracy theories that targeted Biden during his campaign. Those claims alleged, without evidence, that Biden wore a wire or used a medical device to get answers from aides during the presidential debates."Jan 24 14:59
schestowitz__vZS1_2: both are douchebagsJan 24 14:59
schestowitz__but we need to get reliable facts and footage or transcriptsJan 24 14:59
schestowitz__like Trump's "big league"Jan 24 14:59
schestowitz__some people said he had stated "bigly"Jan 24 15:00
vZS1_2Who cares if he wore a wire. The man oversaw the expansion of ICE and PRISM.Jan 24 15:00
schestowitz__later I realised that the anti-Trump camp was also distortingJan 24 15:00
vZS1_2They're dragging on a debate about something that doesn't matter.Jan 24 15:00
schestowitz__PRISM was an extension of Bush programsJan 24 15:00
schestowitz__Biden and Bush are closeJan 24 15:00
vZS1_2An extendion Obama and Biden happily went along withJan 24 15:00
schestowitz__Biden gave Bush a MEDALJan 24 15:00
vZS1_2s/extendion/extension/Jan 24 15:00
vZS1_2The Obama-Biden administration used the Espionage Act to ruin lives.Jan 24 15:01
vZS1_2Trump pardoned Blackwater war criminals. What are they letting their country to turn into....Jan 24 15:02
schestowitz__Video: 24 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | But at Least Heโ€™s Not Donald Trump or George Bushโ€ฆ | TechrightsJan 24 15:02
schestowitz__More photos 24 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Just for the Record(ing Industry): Joe Biden is an Enemy of Freedom and of Software Freedom | TechrightsJan 24 15:03
schestowitz__McCain-Biden (video): 24 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shiftedโ€ฆ to the Right | TechrightsJan 24 15:03
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techrights-botDe-Coding Indian Intellectual Property [sic] #Law does that serve #india or foreign robber barons?Jan 24 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Delhi High Court Interprets โ€˜Exportโ€™ as โ€˜Useโ€™ in India; Grants Interim Injunction to Lundbeck | SpicyIPJan 24 15:06
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techrights-botUS Empire has #USTR blackmail artists shaming and bullying nations that don't obey the Empire's oligarchs lots on USTR in 24 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | USTR Releases 2020 Review of Notorious Markets for Counterfeiting and Piracy | United States Trade RepresentativeJan 24 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cablegate - TechrightsJan 24 15:09
techrights-botThis is a lie. #USTR is not US government but a front of corporations. 24 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ )Jan 24 15:10
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techrights-bot[Older] The EUโ€™s attempt to regulate Big Tech: What it brings and what is missing #gdpr #euJan 24 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The EUโ€™s attempt to regulate Big Tech: What it brings and what is missing - European Digital Rights (EDRi)Jan 24 15:11
vZS1_2I expect things to get worse in terms on antitrust in the USA. Biden is glad to stuff big tech people into critical roles.Jan 24 15:13
vZS1_2Probably part of his campaign donation deal.Jan 24 15:13
karolyi[m]I will agree with the "fact checkers" that the burden of proof is on the people who claim he said it, but they also provided quite a weak "debunking"Jan 24 15:13
karolyi[m]it's just what they do, muddle up the watersJan 24 15:14
karolyi[m]divide et imperaJan 24 15:14
karolyi[m]is the name of the gameJan 24 15:14
vZS1_2Trump thought social control media would always be on his side. He was a fool.Jan 24 15:14
vZS1_2They kicked him off once they knew he was no longer going to be POTUS.Jan 24 15:15
karolyi[m]play stupid games, win stupid prizesJan 24 15:16
techrights-bot"In implementing any decisions, the DSC with jurisdiction must communicate certain information to the EDBS/Commission who may communicate their views when they are of the opinion that any action plan proposed is insufficient." 24 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EU Law Analysis: Overview of Digital Services ActJan 24 15:16
techrights-bot#Spain cannot occupy #Chile with troops anymore. So send the lawyers and lobbyists. 24 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chile and the Madrid Protocol: are we close yet? - IPTangoJan 24 15:17
techrights-bot#clownComputing #FTC #YouAreTheProduct 24 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | FTC settles with photo storage app that pivoted to facial recognition - The VergeJan 24 15:18
schestowitz__vZS1_2: they profited off himJan 24 15:19
schestowitz__and the provocation he causedJan 24 15:19
schestowitz__flaming for responsesJan 24 15:19
schestowitz__pushing adsJan 24 15:19
schestowitz__they threw him under the bus the moment he was no longer the "highest bidder"Jan 24 15:20
schestowitz__now they can rewrite history as "helping Biden"Jan 24 15:20
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schestowitz__With all sorts of misinformation still floating in thereJan 24 15:20
techrights-bot#Fedora doesnโ€™t care about #softwarefreedom and its steward (or parent company) is sometimes imposing #proprietarysoftware on staff; theyโ€™ve quit caring #ibm #redhatJan 24 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | When Proprietary Software Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities | TechrightsJan 24 15:21
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schestowitz__Trump memes from DiscordJan 24 15:22
schestowitz__classyJan 24 15:22
schestowitz__facts are still facts Jan 24 15:22
schestowitz__and social control media is a premier source of gossipJan 24 15:22
schestowitz__need to see the cspan originalJan 24 15:22
schestowitz__and then figure out from that the context and what was saidJan 24 15:23
schestowitz__Senile/demented Trump has long used projection tacticsJan 24 15:23
schestowitz__like the "Sleepy" thing (which is partly true)Jan 24 15:23
schestowitz__(about both)Jan 24 15:23
schestowitz__"Crooked Hillary"Jan 24 15:24
karolyi[m]I have tried to hear what he said from both sides of the aisle, one can't really make it out, can be understood both waysJan 24 15:24
schestowitz__"Nasty Woman"Jan 24 15:24
schestowitz__describing himself basicallyJan 24 15:24
schestowitz__for illusion of parityJan 24 15:24
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schestowitz__karolyi[m]: the video could have audio editedJan 24 15:24
schestowitz__and then redistributedJan 24 15:24
schestowitz__then going 'viral' for the editJan 24 15:24
schestowitz__need to seek the originalJan 24 15:24
schestowitz__not "tweet"Jan 24 15:25
schestowitz__"original" tweetJan 24 15:25
schestowitz__twitter is a rabbit's holeJan 24 15:25
schestowitz__you get disinformation about disinformationJan 24 15:25
schestowitz__and then lose track of actual infoJan 24 15:25
schestowitz__youtube also has "deep fakes"Jan 24 15:25
schestowitz__but...Jan 24 15:25
schestowitz__maybe it's not a fakeJan 24 15:25
schestowitz__and then you wonder about contextJan 24 15:25
schestowitz__my initial reaction was, he doesn't need an earpieceJan 24 15:25
schestowitz__and I could see noneJan 24 15:25
karolyi[m]even the "fact checkers" don't argue for the video being edited, they also claimed he muttered something, but each can perceive it according to one's views and biasesJan 24 15:26
techrights-bot"So I changed to Debian and used it for a time until change to other distros, but I was amazed how fast it was, of course I couldnโ€™t use all of the same programs I used to work with but I did learn new ones." 24 15:27
karolyi[m]confirmation bias is clearly a thing hereJan 24 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Carlos Alves | Contributing to KonsoleJan 24 15:27
karolyi[m]like I said, divide and conquer is the name of the gameJan 24 15:27
CrystalMathschestowitz__: Hillary IS awfulJan 24 15:28
techrights-botOverkill for something that ought not be more simple than a text file with symbols and indentation 24 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 stress-free steps to tackling your task list | Opensource.comJan 24 15:29
CrystalMathlet's not delude ourselves that there's any other reason why Trump won in 2016Jan 24 15:29
CrystalMathHillary IS awful and will always continue to beJan 24 15:29
CrystalMathi look forward to the day she diesJan 24 15:29
vZS1_2The Clintons have no qualms about doing things like bombing medical infrastructure in developing countries. Look up Operation Infinite Reach.Jan 24 15:29
schestowitz__anyway, back on topicJan 24 15:30
schestowitz__and now "tweets"...Jan 24 15:30
schestowitz__so we have this new post about fedoraJan 24 15:30
habaner0what are the alternatives to letsencrypt ?Jan 24 15:30
schestowitz__they defend using adobeJan 24 15:30
schestowitz__habaner0: noencrypt ;-)Jan 24 15:30
schestowitz__or RealEncryptJan 24 15:30
schestowitz__without a middleman :-)Jan 24 15:30
karolyi[m]self signed certs with a CA you create and install into your clients...Jan 24 15:31
schestowitz__I wouldn't trust GitHub hosted MicrosoftLFoundation with certsJan 24 15:31
habaner0tyJan 24 15:31
vZS1_2Libressl is good.Jan 24 15:31
habaner0are there any downfalls to using lets encryptJan 24 15:31
schestowitz__LE is just LFJan 24 15:31
schestowitz__in new clothingJan 24 15:31
schestowitz__look up the IRS filings for LEJan 24 15:31
schestowitz__same peopleJan 24 15:32
karolyi[m]what's a LF?Jan 24 15:32
vZS1_2Linux Foundation (LF)Jan 24 15:32
karolyi[m]ahaJan 24 15:32
schestowitz__Let's FoundatioJan 24 15:32
vZS1_2schestowitz__: You could say the bombing of a parmaceutical building deprived people in need of technology.Jan 24 15:32
karolyi[m]well I use letsencrypt to provide lots ssl certs for sites I serve... I don't know any better nowJan 24 15:32
schestowitz__The F does not have to stand for FoundationJan 24 15:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory - WikipediaJan 24 15:33
vZS1_2I think that's kind of on-topicJan 24 15:33
schestowitz__ 24 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundationโ€™s Letโ€™s Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | TechrightsJan 24 15:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Letโ€™s Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Itโ€™s Disguised as โ€˜Freeโ€™ Privacy | TechrightsJan 24 15:33
schestowitz__they already had major "incidents"Jan 24 15:33
schestowitz__millions of "bad certs"Jan 24 15:34
schestowitz__and no explanation as to why that happenedJan 24 15:34
vZS1_2People shouldn't forget these things (bombing of Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory) by USA.Jan 24 15:34
schestowitz__maybe they made a Real(TM) COvid(R) Vaccine(C)Jan 24 15:34
schestowitz__like Libya wanted to move away from USDJan 24 15:35
schestowitz__Saddam had to goJan 24 15:35
schestowitz__Saddan was ruler of Saudi ArabiaJan 24 15:35
schestowitz__and sent over half a dozen AQ terroristsJan 24 15:35
schestowitz__Kim is a good lad thoughJan 24 15:36
schestowitz__"I fell in love with him"Jan 24 15:36
vZS1_2Trump loves missiles tooJan 24 15:37
vZS1_2 24 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Assassination of Qasem Soleimani - WikipediaJan 24 15:37
techrights-bot#Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle - Phoronix โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐ŸงJan 24 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle - PhoronixJan 24 15:38
vZS1_2And people wonder why the world hates the USAJan 24 15:39
karolyi[m]well if the NSA has the LE root CA compromised, that still doesn't mean they are able to decrypt the TLS connection encrypted with their certificates, it just means that they are able to falsify certificates with itJan 24 15:39
karolyi[m]which is bad of course, provided they can hijack domainsJan 24 15:39
vZS1_2LE reinforces the CA monopoly on trust. Browsers reinforce that monopoly.Jan 24 15:40
techrights-botUS Defense Intelligence Agency admits buying location data off brokers 24 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | US Defense Intelligence Agency admits buying location data off brokersJan 24 15:40
habaner0snowden already revealed that they can unencrypt at willJan 24 15:40
karolyi[m]but quite honestly, no one can tell at this point if the NSA or other "security agencies" have an intermediate cert alreadyJan 24 15:40
karolyi[m]habaner0: do you have a source for that?Jan 24 15:41
vZS1_2If there is a source, they should go claim their Turing Award.Jan 24 15:41
techrights-botThe Kate Text Editor - January 2021 #kde #gnu #linux #freeswJan 24 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Kate Text Editor - January 2021 - Kate | Get an Edge in EditingJan 24 15:41
habaner0I believe in his book, dont quote me on it though, I may be wrongJan 24 15:41
karolyi[m]I mean there are ciphers that are prone to quantum attacks, but normally this is why the SSL/TLS suite can use various ciphers, so you can phase out the weak ones over timeJan 24 15:42
karolyi[m]or might be some other method which I don't know of, but am interested in learning about itJan 24 15:43
vZS1_2Write a paper and publish it. The security community would love to peer-review it.Jan 24 15:43
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karolyi[m]?Jan 24 15:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Letโ€™s Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Itโ€™s Disguised as โ€˜Freeโ€™ Privacy | TechrightsJan 24 15:45
vZS1_2The CA monopoly is antithetical to libre software.Jan 24 15:47
karolyi[m]I will agree with the monopoly aspectJan 24 15:48
karolyi[m]and also that they're hosted on proprietary sitesJan 24 15:48
karolyi[m]but then again, how could you verify that their published code on their own site (hosted somewhere on an opensource platform) is the same they use on their backends?Jan 24 15:49
karolyi[m]as long as people wouldn't be able to deploy the entire infrastructure for themselves, I guess no one can make sure they're safeJan 24 15:50
karolyi[m]and even then, who has the control over the root CAJan 24 15:50
vZS1_2Real security means you tier how much you trust encryption keys.Jan 24 15:50
vZS1_2If you get it in person, you can say it's safe to use. For example, get a certificiate by going to your bank.Jan 24 15:51
vZS1_2If you want to just read a blog post, you can just trust any old TLS cert.Jan 24 15:51
vZS1_2This is real security and not theatre.Jan 24 15:51
schestowitz__[15:50] <karolyi[m]> and even then, who has the control over the root CAJan 24 15:52
schestowitz__maybe the I between the C and AJan 24 15:52
karolyi[m]lolJan 24 15:52
schestowitz__I cited the example from SwitzerlandJan 24 15:52
schestowitz__where the CIA literally owned them, secretlyJan 24 15:52
schestowitz__and that was a recent storyJan 24 15:52
vZS1_2Current TLS infrastructure is pure theatreJan 24 15:53
schestowitz__outsourcing trustJan 24 15:53
schestowitz__who to?Jan 24 15:53
schestowitz__exactly!Jan 24 15:53
vZS1_2BingoJan 24 15:54
schestowitz__starttls badJan 24 15:54
schestowitz__because "China"Jan 24 15:54
schestowitz__LE/GitHub goodJan 24 15:54
schestowitz__cause Microsoft/ZemlinJan 24 15:54
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schestowitz__"orange man" helped people forget about NSA leaksJan 24 15:54
schestowitz__for 5 yearsJan 24 15:54
vZS1_2And the browser providers dictation which CAs you can trust. i.e., the war on self-signed keys.Jan 24 15:56
vZS1_2s/dictation/dictate/Jan 24 15:56
vZS1_2They bury the "accept self-signed cert" button under several menus and scary warning bannersJan 24 15:56
schestowitz__grafam browsersJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__gafamJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__china badJan 24 15:57
vZS1_2Even if you got a cert in person, they don't care. It's still "unsafe"Jan 24 15:57
schestowitz__not approved by trumplandJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__way to assert control over the NetJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__via browsersJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__and pre-wired whitelistingJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__oh, sorryJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__bad wordJan 24 15:57
schestowitz__slavery does not exist anymoreJan 24 15:58
schestowitz__or digital colonialismJan 24 15:58
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schestowitz__that's old stuff, like robber baronsJan 24 15:58
schestowitz__they gave away their wealth and ceased to existJan 24 15:58
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vZS1_2It would be very easy to properly get a public key. They do fit on dotmatrix in a single page.Jan 24 16:00
techrights-bot#WhiskerMenu 2.5.3 released #gnu #linuxJan 24 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Whisker Menu 2.5 Released | Tux MachinesJan 24 16:01
vZS1_2You could use the camera on your laptop or phone or something to scan it when you're at your bankJan 24 16:01
vZS1_2But that would mean education the public about real digital securityJan 24 16:01
vZS1_2And we can't have thatJan 24 16:01
vZS1_2s/education/educating/Jan 24 16:01
schestowitz__"get chrome"Jan 24 16:01
schestowitz__4 coloursJan 24 16:01
schestowitz__rainbows and poniesJan 24 16:01
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schestowitz__"Secured via End-to-end encryption"Jan 24 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wirelessly Use Any Device as Second Display of your PC with Darkscreen for FREE โ€“ Open Source & Linux News, Business Ideas & Much more at one place - Asktogrow.comJan 24 16:03
vZS1_2People visit their grocery stores all the time as well. They could easily print their public keys at the till.Jan 24 16:04
vZS1_2It can be done from any computer with a printerJan 24 16:04
vZS1_2But instead they are busy printing QR codes that track people to spy on their movements.Jan 24 16:06
techrights-botVery disappointing that #medevel today promotes #surveillance and #ProprietarySoftware for collaboration, overlooking vastly better options 24 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 5 Ways Remote Developers Can Collaborate In Real TimeJan 24 16:06
schestowitz__vZS1_2: but...Jan 24 16:06
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schestowitz__terroristsJan 24 16:06
schestowitz__pedophilesJan 24 16:07
vZS1_2drug smugglersJan 24 16:07
schestowitz__russiaJan 24 16:07
vZS1_2chinaJan 24 16:07
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–‡ avg(k/sec) 28.00 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ˆโ–„โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–„โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–ƒโ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 26.18โ–• swarm size (avg): 265.12  โŸฒJan 24 16:10
techrights-botGetting Started with #RaspberryPiPico using MicroPython and C 24 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux MachinesJan 24 16:10
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karolyi[m]trump and/or biden!Jan 24 16:14
techrights-bot#Intel Has A New Driver For #Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptopโ€™s Hinge/Keyboard Angle โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle | Tux MachinesJan 24 16:15
techrights-botIf you try to apply for mentorship at #linuxfoundation you are asked to log in with one of: 1) Microsoft 2) Microsoft 3) Google 4) Facebook Stay classy, #zemlinPACJan 24 16:18
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techrights-botOn the upside, #linuxfoundation mentorship do not, for a change, have a requirement like "do not be male"Jan 24 16:21
MinceR24 163024 < habaner0> what are the alternatives to letsencrypt ?Jan 24 16:22
MinceRonion sites via torJan 24 16:22
MinceReepsites via i2pJan 24 16:22
MinceRyour public key is your domain nameJan 24 16:22
karolyi[m]who about being huwhite?Jan 24 16:22
karolyi[m]*howJan 24 16:22
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MinceRi don't know that oneJan 24 16:22
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MinceRah, you were replying to something elseJan 24 16:23
vZS1_2i2p is a good project. I prefer their infrastructure to Tor.Jan 24 16:23
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karolyi[m]yeah, I just don't use the reply function so that the irc side is not screwed upJan 24 16:23
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techrights-bot#openSUSE #Tumbleweed โ€“ Review of the week 2021/03 โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | openSUSE Tumbleweed โ€“ Review of the week 2021/03 | Tux MachinesJan 24 16:24
techrights-bot#GTK4 Toolkit Seeing More Improvements To Its #OpenGL Renderer - Phoronix โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Phoronix #GNOMEJan 24 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GTK4 Toolkit Seeing More Improvements To Its OpenGL Renderer - PhoronixJan 24 16:25
vZS1_2It's a bit of a struggle to me to skim the i2p code, though. Java not my most familiar language.Jan 24 16:26
techrights-bot#gcc 11: #libgccjit is no longer 'alpha' 24 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [PATCH 2/6] gcc 11: libgccjit is no longer 'alpha'Jan 24 16:27
vZS1_2They (i2p) migrated over from Monotone to Git, not long ago. That should make the project a bit more accessible.Jan 24 16:27
techrights-bot#KDE : #Kate and #Konsole โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #LinuxJan 24 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KDE: Kate and Konsole | Tux MachinesJan 24 16:34
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techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 24 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 24 16:36
techrights-botGNU: #GNU #Binutils 2.36, #GCC 11, and #GTK 4.0 24 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GNU: GNU Binutils 2.36, GCC 11, and GTK 4.0 | Tux MachinesJan 24 16:37
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schestowitz__What does this site run? 24 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Linux FoundationJan 24 16:42
schestowitz__nonce=Lnl3Q2tzb1FZYWdVTGpRVlVKYlBpT2VWTmRLcnF3ZWdwNnBGc2xSYmt1Tw%3D%3D&code_challenge=OG29R-ed7F-hGR-TvaeXR_LQxfcCeQEtvoHkHOMl4hg&code_challenge_method=S256&auth0Client=eyJuYW1lIjoiYXV0aDAtc3BhLWpzIiwidmVyc2lvbiI6IjEuMTMuMCJ9Jan 24 16:42
schestowitz__page source provides no cluesJan 24 16:42
schestowitz__"https://linuxfoundation.orgJan 24 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Foundation - Decentralized innovation, built with trustJan 24 16:44
schestowitz__Decentralized innovation.Jan 24 16:44
schestowitz__Built on trust.Jan 24 16:44
schestowitz__"Jan 24 16:44
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schestowitz__Decentralised... on Microsoft Github :-)Jan 24 16:44
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techrights-bot9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 24th, 2021 (1st Anniversary) โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #LinuxJan 24 16:49
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kingoffrancewell, decentralized as in   lol  that kind of decentralized Jan 24 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Careers - Internet Security Research GroupJan 24 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | About Internet Security Research Group - Internet Security Research GroupJan 24 16:52
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kingoffrance100s of nameless faceless corps and the fortune 100..."decentralized" lolJan 24 16:53
kingoffrance(lets encrypt forward you to abetterinternet)Jan 24 16:53
kingoffranceeven more "decentralization" lolJan 24 16:53
kingoffrancei guess that kind of "decentralize" is slang for "bring all the corps together"Jan 24 16:55
kingoffranceappearance of decentralization, to provide a mechanism for moreJan 24 16:57
kingoffrance"ISRG is a California public benefit corporation" thats literally what corporation means, one body. centralizeJan 24 16:59
kingoffrancethats the literal definition lolJan 24 17:00
kingoffranceconways law at workJan 24 17:01
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ˆโ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 28.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.30โ–• swarm size (avg): 272.41  โŸฒJan 24 17:10
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MinceR(cat) (audio) 24 17:53
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ˆโ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 28.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.30โ–• swarm size (avg): 267.21  โŸฒJan 24 18:10
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ˆโ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 28.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.30โ–• swarm size (avg): 262.20  โŸฒJan 24 19:10
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ˆโ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 28.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.30โ–• swarm size (avg): 257.37  โŸฒJan 24 20:10
MinceR 24 20:11
XRevan86MinceR: I respect that.Jan 24 20:27
MinceRi particularly like their namesJan 24 20:27
MinceR(cat) 24 21:00
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ˆโ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 28.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.30โ–• swarm size (avg): 252.72  โŸฒJan 24 21:10
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MinceR(audio:important) 24 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VvWW - YouTubeJan 24 21:37
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ˆโ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 28.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.30โ–• swarm size (avg): 248.23  โŸฒJan 24 22:10
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ˆโ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒ avg(k/sec) 28.33 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–‚ avg(k/sec) 19.30โ–• swarm size (avg): 243.90  โŸฒJan 24 23:10
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schestowitz__psydroid: did you pass me that IBM email?Jan 24 23:48
psydroidschestowitz_, I will try to do it tomorrow afternoon/evening, I was preparing for my exam tomorrow (actually today)Jan 24 23:51

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