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techrights-news"Profit-motivated economics invites people to ask, "How can I get ahead?" Raworth's economics invites people to ask, "What do we all need?"" https://stallman.org/archives//2021-sep-dec.html#25_November_2021_(Kay_Raworth_Economics)Nov 26 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: September - December Political Notes - Richard StallmanNov 26 00:08
techrights-newsThe game uses client-side certificates to maintain game sessions." Two Gemini clients I use do not support this :/ https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007634.htmlNov 26 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Announcing SpellBinding, a cgi game for GeminiNov 26 00:09
schestowitzis there a "magic" way to retreive latest wordpress post?Nov 26 00:11
schestowitzlike ?p=maxNov 26 00:11
schestowitz*retrieveNov 26 00:12
schestowitzhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/8751564/get-latest-post-link-on-wordpressNov 26 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | php - Get latest post link on WordPress - Stack OverflowNov 26 00:12
schestowitzseems like a common questionNov 26 00:13
schestowitzI want to make gemini sync in almost real time wrt wwwNov 26 00:13
DaemonFC<schestowitz> DaemonFC: sometimes I joke to myself that RMS is sponsored by GuardianNov 26 00:13
schestowitzI'm getting sick of wwwNov 26 00:13
schestowitztoo much spam and sponsored fake 'news'Nov 26 00:13
DaemonFCI ran across a British joke.Nov 26 00:13
DaemonFChttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0751828/characters/nm0001329Nov 26 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Yes, Prime Minister" A Conflict of Interest (TV Episode 1987) - Nigel Hawthorne as Sir Humphrey Appleby - IMDbNov 26 00:14
schestowitzseems like backend and php needed to get latest postNov 26 00:14
schestowitzI've long wanted to automate all thisNov 26 00:14
schestowitzhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/17947778/how-to-use-wordpress-get-recent-posts https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41631565/how-to-display-latest-posts-in-wordpressNov 26 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | php - How to use WordPress get recent posts? - Stack OverflowNov 26 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | php - How to display latest posts in Wordpress - Stack OverflowNov 26 00:15
DaemonFCSir Humphrey : The only way to understand the Press is to remember that they pander to their readers' prejudices.Nov 26 00:15
DaemonFCJim Hacker : Don't tell me about the Press. I know *exactly* who reads the papers. The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they *ought* to run the country; The Times is read by the people who actually *do* run the country; The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; The Financial Times is read by people who *own* the country; The Morning Star is read Nov 26 00:15
DaemonFCby people who think the country ought to be run by *another* country; and The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.Nov 26 00:15
DaemonFCSir Humphrey : Oh, and Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?Nov 26 00:15
schestowitzhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/56809141/get-latest-post-on-blog-page https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23683437/get-last-post-date-for-custom-post-type-wordpressNov 26 00:15
DaemonFCBernard Woolley : Sun readers don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big tits.Nov 26 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | php - Get latest post on blog page - Stack OverflowNov 26 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | Get last post date for custom post type - Wordpress - Stack OverflowNov 26 00:15
psydruidI got sick of www 2 years ago and started looking into Gemini, but software support had just about starter and there weren't so many sites yetNov 26 00:15
psydruidstarted*Nov 26 00:16
psydruidit was orbifx who told me about it actuallyNov 26 00:16
schestowitzDaemonFC: that's hilarious actuallyNov 26 00:16
schestowitzbecause it is partly trueNov 26 00:16
schestowitzDaemonFC: Sun page 3 is no moreNov 26 00:17
schestowitzso that joke won't mean much to younger peopleNov 26 00:17
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psydruid> The Web is a shithole full of scams and advertisements.Nov 26 00:20
psydruidThe worst part is that its creators and founders encouraged this development or made excuses to keep using it when they knew many people would be better off with a new protocol and platformNov 26 00:20
schestowitzexactlyNov 26 00:21
schestowitzso the leadership too lost credsNov 26 00:21
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_ConsortiumNov 26 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium - TechrightsNov 26 00:21
schestowitzit happened just over a decade agoNov 26 00:21
schestowitzwhen www was a teenNov 26 00:21
schestowitztimbl's "solution" is more JS shite... hosted by Microsoft proprietary shithubNov 26 00:22
schestowitzwhich is... well, revealing about tim bl's understanding of the current situationNov 26 00:22
schestowitzit's like more of the same stuff that dooms the open webNov 26 00:22
schestowitzFirefox became just "slow chrome" http://techrights.org/wiki/MozillaNov 26 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla - TechrightsNov 26 00:22
DaemonFCOlder games tend to run fine in vanilla Wine.Nov 26 00:23
schestowitzJust tried url hacking on wordpressNov 26 00:23
DaemonFCSo no need to make prefixes for those.Nov 26 00:23
schestowitzwordpress lacks versatility on the client endNov 26 00:23
psydruidsolid(/inrupt) embrace, extension and extinctionNov 26 00:23
psydruidthat was his grand planNov 26 00:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe maiuntainers of old games will abandon windowsNov 26 00:24
schestowitzthey will realise it's more economic to work with WINENov 26 00:24
schestowitzand then run WINE on BSD of GNUNov 26 00:24
DaemonFCThey should. Just tinker with them to work with Wine and re-release them.Nov 26 00:24
schestowitzwithout it breaking everything "the Vole" has version+1Nov 26 00:24
schestowitzsee scummvmNov 26 00:24
psydruidI was there at his presentation at FOSDEM 2019 and I was thinking "this is never going to be adopted"Nov 26 00:25
psydruidso it was a fake solution to a real problemNov 26 00:25
schestowitzthis is all host-side https://webhostinghero.org/how-to-get-the-most-recent-permalink-in-wordpress/Nov 26 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Get the Link to the Latest Post in WordPress - WebHostingHero.orgNov 26 00:25
schestowitzsurely there ought to be a way for client sideNov 26 00:25
schestowitz"serve me the latest post"Nov 26 00:26
psydruidI install every game in its own prefixNov 26 00:26
psydruidwith LutrisNov 26 00:26
schestowitzah, lutris is caoolNov 26 00:26
psydruidnot for me but for othersNov 26 00:27
schestowitzsuppose I could run my own hack to parse the front page and retrieve post ID of first in the list then site/p=?[ID]Nov 26 00:27
schestowitzbut huge overheadNov 26 00:28
schestowitzwordpress is not improvingNov 26 00:28
schestowitzit's becoming obeseNov 26 00:28
schestowitzbecause of UX cargo cultsNov 26 00:28
schestowitzthe wordpress UI guy quit in protestNov 26 00:28
schestowitzover gutenberg (JS)Nov 26 00:28
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psydruidWordPress content can relatively easily be moved to Gemini, I supposeNov 26 00:29
schestowitzlol sounds legitNov 26 00:30
schestowitzhttps://phpscriptfree.com/wordpress/wordpress-wp-37357-latest-post-shortcode-link.htmlNov 26 00:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to add Latest Post Link Shortcode in Wordpress | PHPscriptfreeNov 26 00:30
schestowitzinstall random stuff from the webNov 26 00:30
schestowitzpsydruid: it can, we did itNov 26 00:30
schestowitzgo to techrights.org/gitNov 26 00:30
schestowitzit's written in perl mostlyNov 26 00:30
schestowitzunder GeminiNov 26 00:30
schestowitzwe did the same for mediawikiNov 26 00:31
schestowitzwhich powers wikipediaNov 26 00:31
schestowitzhttps://wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/27882/get-the-id-of-the-latest-postNov 26 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wordpress.stackexchange.com | Get the ID of the latest post - WordPress Development Stack ExchangeNov 26 00:32
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schestowitzI will script something in bashNov 26 00:35
schestowitz curl -s http://techrights.org/?stories | grep "post-" Nov 26 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedomNov 26 00:38
schestowitzalmost there nowNov 26 00:38
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schestowitzcurl -s http://techrights.org/?stories | grep "post-" | cut -d \" -f 2,3 | tr -d post- | cut -d \" -f 1 | head -n 1Nov 26 00:41
schestowitzdone, now I can plug that into the URLNov 26 00:41
psydruidMerry FiremassNov 26 00:42
schestowitzURL=$(curl -s http://techrights.org/?stories | grep "post-" | cut -d \" -f 2,3 | tr -d post- | cut -d \" -f 1 | head -n 1 )Nov 26 00:45
schestowitz LATEST="http://techrights.org/?p="$URLNov 26 00:46
schestowitzroy@vonick:~$ echo $LATESTNov 26 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedomNov 26 00:46
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/?p=152486Nov 26 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM as Master of Hypocrisy | TechrightsNov 26 00:46
schestowitzyayNov 26 00:46
schestowitzdidn't take longNov 26 00:46
schestowitzthat will save me time in the long runNov 26 00:47
DaemonFC<schestowitz> because of UX cargo cultsNov 26 00:51
DaemonFCAt least Rust walks right into this.Nov 26 00:51
DaemonFCThey actually have .cargo so you can call them .cargo cultists.Nov 26 00:51
activelowRMS is given many speeches, however, this is a question, a technical one, i would have liked to asked or him said anythingNov 26 00:57
activelowbecause, if it is true, PCC compiler is 5x-10x faster with reasonably optimized outputNov 26 00:57
activelowwhat he, RMS, thinks of thisNov 26 00:57
schestowitzhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/3074288/get-final-url-after-curl-is-redirectedNov 26 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | linux - Get final URL after curl is redirected - Stack OverflowNov 26 00:59
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activelow"This product includes software developed or owned by Caldera International, Inc."Nov 26 01:05
psydruidPCC should be able to compile any basic code, right? or even SIMD and vector code?Nov 26 01:06
activelowto muy knowledge PCC doesn't SIMD optimizeNov 26 01:06
activelowGCC doesn't neither at -O2 defaultNov 26 01:07
activelowaha, PCC compiler was the *nix one... and then "Caldera (SCO Group) vs Microsoft"  among other legal battles escalatedNov 26 01:07
activelowfrom a technical standpoint, GNU was "victorious" with their gccNov 26 01:08
psydruidI'd rather skip SIMD and go straight to vector codeNov 26 01:08
activelowwhat's the difference? SIMD is intended to process vectors.Nov 26 01:09
psydruidfor a compiler at leastNov 26 01:09
psydruidthere are some differences in how instructions are emitted for themNov 26 01:10
activelowanyway, SIMD isn't related to the question what happened to GNU/gcc (bloated beyond repair) and PCC (abandoned)Nov 26 01:10
psydruidbut I haven't worked with either so farNov 26 01:10
psydruidI don't know what happened to themNov 26 01:11
activelowme neither, i only see the final result of it: slow and inefficient and insecure softwareNov 26 01:11
psydruidI just want a working non-bloated and fast compilerNov 26 01:12
activelowwhich isn't enought, because system integration of it is a challengeNov 26 01:12
psydruidbut I want that for all of my softwareNov 26 01:12
psydruidI wouldn't know what is enoughNov 26 01:13
activelownow i see, Caldera/SCO were delisted from NASDAQ stock exchange 2007Nov 26 01:13
activelowwhich is remarkable, because a trillion cash global business scam depends on it, such as, a reliable compilerNov 26 01:14
psydruidI think I'm not that much into the GNU/Linux development process anymoreNov 26 01:15
activelowhttp://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20091228231142Nov 26 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | Call for testing: pcc and the OpenBSD kernelNov 26 01:16
activelowthis project was, until closed, funded with $750.... LOLNov 26 01:17
psydruidit can fund someone in Eastern EuropeNov 26 01:18
activelowgood luckNov 26 01:19
activelowanyway, some argue to keep BSD free of GPL, which wouldn't be my concern with PCC compilerNov 26 01:19
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activelowinstead, the argument it compiled supposedly 5x-10x faster (couldn't test this yet)Nov 26 01:20
kingoffrancei remember that at the time (above link) ...net/free/open all use clang now?Nov 26 01:22
kingoffrancefree does anywaysNov 26 01:22
psydruidyes, on multiple architectures they doNov 26 01:22
activelowgood question kingoffrance Nov 26 01:22
activelowi am not opposing GCC or LLVM/Clang, i only think neither of those do fill the niche i am interested inNov 26 01:23
kingoffrancei mean, for some things at least, they did moe away from gcc, just not to pccNov 26 01:23
kingoffrance*moveNov 26 01:23
psydruidI'm not sure if GCC is gone on all architectures, but it's usually some patched 4.2.1 version anywayNov 26 01:23
kingoffrancelong ago you could sort of (completely unsupported) compile at least part of freebsd userland and maybe kernel with iccNov 26 01:23
kingoffrance(intel)Nov 26 01:23
kingoffranceeh, i just think its nice to have choicesNov 26 01:24
psydruiddoesn't fuzix have its own compiler?Nov 26 01:24
activelowfake choiceNov 26 01:24
activelowyes psydruid, SDCC, which is GPL btwNov 26 01:24
kingoffrancei mean, the compiler-specific stuff should be isolated anywaysNov 26 01:25
activelowhowever, SDCC is for tiniest embedded microcontrollers (which are fascinating too)Nov 26 01:25
kingoffranceeven someone who only cares about one compiler, you don't have to hardcode thingsNov 26 01:25
activelowhowever, with pcc, if it at least compiled uboot/kernel/busybox/perl/python... to begin withNov 26 01:25
activelowi mean, with PCC a *nix system could be maintained self-hosting on some of the current tiny embeddes systems, with 500milliwatts power drawNov 26 01:26
activelowif my estimates are correctNov 26 01:26
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activelowanyway, i didn't hear anything from RMS, although he boasted software freedom with his talks in the last decadesNov 26 01:29
activelowand GCC is his child, gcc in particularNov 26 01:29
activelow*BSD couldn't source funding of at least a few thousand cash for their compiler? how did GNU do it then to fund their GCC monstrosity development?Nov 26 01:30
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activelowhonestly, i simply do not know the nitty gritty details of "sco vs linux" or "caldera vs microsoft"Nov 26 01:32
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activelowdidn't microsoft smash Caldera? and then, the winner is... GNU?Nov 26 01:38
activelow"In 2000, Microsoft settled out-of-court for an undisclosed sum, which in 2009 was revealed to be 280 million dollars,[77][78][79][80] and the Caldera evidence was destroyed in 2003"Nov 26 01:39
activelowcaldera isn't AT&T isn't Unix isn't BSD... anyway.Nov 26 01:39
activelowat least, it seems, PCC was a good compiler.Nov 26 01:40
activelowand, PCC is GPL???Nov 26 01:40
activelowwhy then didn't GNU "endorse" PCC?Nov 26 01:41
activelowand yes, now i remember, OpenBSD refrained from pushing PCC further too, although it is a first class candidate imo... because GPL???Nov 26 01:42
activelownow, they're excited about LLVM/Clang/Rust and related shitload?Nov 26 01:44
activelow"SCO vs Linux"???? "SCO vs IBM Wintel" i would say.Nov 26 01:46
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kingoffrancewhat pcc you talking about activelow ?  http://pcc.ludd.ltu.se/licenses/Nov 26 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pcc.ludd.ltu.se | licenses - pcc portable c compilerNov 26 01:50
kingoffranceThe code has a variety of BSD-style licenses.Nov 26 01:51
activelowkingoffrance: yes, this one, however i checked the license note inside the source bundle, where it says GPLNov 26 01:51
kingoffranceah, i dunno :/Nov 26 01:51
activelowme neither. copyright holder is caldera/sco. and this is the question: did anybody try or could confirm if PCC can compile Linux Kernel?Nov 26 01:51
kingoffrancethere's a couple more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TenDRA_Compiler   ack is ancient...Nov 26 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | TenDRA Compiler - WikipediaNov 26 01:52
kingoffrancebut i never heard of anyone try to use them on kernelNov 26 01:53
kingoffranceor even userland really ;)Nov 26 01:53
Ariadnei used to help maintain TenDRA in debianNov 26 01:53
kingoffrancetendra, bsdNov 26 01:53
kingoffrancei heard tendra was supposedly very good about "standards"Nov 26 01:53
kingoffrancelike ppl might use it like lint maybe?Nov 26 01:53
kingoffrancei used to joke there was tcc (tendra) and tiny c  and turbo c  ...all tccNov 26 01:54
kingoffrance*bsd-licensedNov 26 01:55
kingoffrance"At a point, most of the Alpha OSF/1 kernel could be built with TenDRA C and afterwards there was also a similar effort to port the FreeBSD kernel."   wikipedia says that, but i dont rememberNov 26 01:55
AriadneTenDRA is largely obsoleteNov 26 01:56
activelowpcc sources got BSD license banners too, with SCO/Caldera as copyright holder, some OpenBSD authors.Nov 26 02:00
activelowmy mistake, the GPL banner was autotools/configure relatedNov 26 02:00
activelownonetheless, OpenBSD didn't proceed with pccNov 26 02:00
activelownow they're excited about llvm/clang/rustNov 26 02:01
activelowlong story short, my opinion, GCC is not good quality with both c and even worse c++, for the simple reason - if it is true, pcc was supposedly 5x-10x faster than gcc with c compilationNov 26 02:02
activelowc++ is awful, no need to keep llvm or gcc for that, which is why i am planning to kick that out, with gentoo tooling which allows to do itNov 26 02:04
activelowit is somewhat ironic, imo, that the industry lost interest in their own compiler from AT&T/Unix, and came up with what gcc and llvm are nowadaysNov 26 02:08
activelowand i think it is true, Linux did contain *nix ideas and sources; however it was SCO vs IBM, and IBM is not LinuxNov 26 02:11
activelowstumbled upon this, when i patched legacy Unix pty support back to live with my system hereNov 26 02:12
activelowand maybe, don't know if i succeed with it, can fully remove both gcc and llvm, and keep pcc as system compiler *only*Nov 26 02:12
activelowi don't care if it is eiter GPL or BSD or caldera being copyright holder. would it be an infringement of anyone's rights if i chose pcc compiler?Nov 26 02:13
activelowi am not saying this in defense of either IBM or SCO or Microsoft or GNU... i think all of them destroyed *nix and it's compilerNov 26 02:18
activelowmisunderstanding, better to say, i had to verify if linux kernel, busybox etc. could be compiled with PCC as the only system compiler in placeNov 26 02:26
activelowand then it should be easy to take aim at whatever is broken, one by oneNov 26 02:27
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activelowinteresting, the auther of PCC, Johnson, worked on matlab tooNov 26 03:48
activelowin principle, i refrain from closed source softwareNov 26 03:49
activelowshielding mathematics with closed source software libraries is corrupt beyond comrehensionNov 26 03:50
activelowi think, given the fact i was studying at german telekom, i could have a word to say about thisNov 26 03:52
activelowbtw. RMS is a MIT associate, isn't he? the way i see it USA is corrupt, from east-coast MIT to the west caltechNov 26 03:53
activelowi mean Matlab closed source? maybe Bronstein should be rewritten in a secret language? and nor more translations into english be made?Nov 26 03:54
activelowiirc, Bronstein was translated in Leipzig, my hometown, or better to say was.Nov 26 03:54
activelow"Little Encyclopedia of Mathematics" ("little") is a a publication of University of Leipzig btw.Nov 26 03:55
activelowmaybe, this should have been sanctioned for export into USA?Nov 26 03:55
activelowi am beginning to hate, tbh.Nov 26 03:56
activelowremembering how much time was wasted by this corrupt shitload of crap made in USANov 26 03:56
activelowdon't care if if it s microsoft, or SCO, or IBM, they're all the sameNov 26 03:57
activelowMatlab... proprietary, supported architectures IBM Wintel PC only.Nov 26 03:59
activelowneat idea, maybe patent greek letter alphabet and deny microsoft using it?Nov 26 04:01
activelowand this new "german" government, they "love linux" now. guess how this ends.Nov 26 04:03
activelowbunch of corrupt criminalsNov 26 04:03
activelowtexas instruments and their calculator series, noteworthy story tooNov 26 04:04
activelowif i had known, who they are, what theyNov 26 04:04
activelowmaybe, since when merkel retires soon, we can send her back onto the ranch of G.W.Bush... please keep her thereNov 26 04:04
activelowi am truly beginning to hateNov 26 04:05
activelowmatlab withdrawn from China?Nov 26 04:10
activelowmatlab doesn't belong into any german or european university either.Nov 26 04:10
activelowlast one i had seen, spyder-ide, was toxic too, sadly, fiddled google-chrome/webengine intoNov 26 04:11
activelowanyway, this was the ide only, not necessary, otherwise i don't know how many and which quality math libraries with python areNov 26 04:12
activelownext, Matlab say it was their "property" some algorithms implemented? or is it the maths books?Nov 26 04:13
activelowor is it permitted to import/export some sources?Nov 26 04:13
activelowyou know the tricks. same with electronics CAD, such as KiCad, which requires electronics parts definitionsNov 26 04:14
activelowit is a mountain of crap and shit, which was hindering my doing my studies and workNov 26 04:14
activelowdid i have to study law to work as telco engineer? which reminds me, still got the contract with telecom headquarters here.Nov 26 04:15
activelowwhich alone, is reason enought to ignite something, for them.Nov 26 04:15
activelowi hate them, with passion.Nov 26 04:15
activelowand now, too i am beginning to understand, the surrounding polit cartell, and murderous corruptionNov 26 04:16
activelowit is difficult, to distinguish, where the frontlines areNov 26 04:17
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DaemonFChttps://www.kivitv.com/news/it-was-pretty-overdue-boise-library-book-returned-110-years-after-being-checked-outNov 26 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kivitv.com | Boise library book returned 110 year lateNov 26 04:44
DaemonFCThey have to explain what the paper slip system was.Nov 26 04:45
DaemonFCI don't remember when they got rid of the card catalog. The computer system is much more annoying, but it frees up floor space.Nov 26 04:46
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activelowmicrosoft AARD... well, the misunderstanding is this: everyone does it one way or anotherNov 26 06:24
activelowthen Novell began whining, and how did they say "we need to smile at novell while we pull the trigger"Nov 26 06:25
activelowthat's why, microsoft is the best thing ever to take revenge, as long as i do not need to use any of their productsNov 26 06:25
activelowDeutsche Telekom is a good customer of them, as any other one of the big corporations.Nov 26 06:26
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activelowhow did it end? Deutsche Telekom closed their universities, to my knowledge, maybe their distance-learning/online lecture exists still.Nov 26 06:36
activelowanyway, i won't miss this.Nov 26 06:36
activelowif microsoft drawes the demarcation lines for me, good. all i need to know is where the fence is, microsoft herding their customer cattle there.Nov 26 06:38
activelowit is the cornerstorne of proof, anyone willing to accept matlab or ibm wintel PC, if microsoft keeps them away and makes them smile.Nov 26 06:39
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DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/biden-wishes-americans-happy-closer-to-normal-thanksgiving/Nov 26 06:54
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DaemonFC"But this year, the president joined the millions of Americans who are celebrating the holiday with big groups of loved ones."Nov 26 06:54
DaemonFC105,000 cases, 1,500 dead on Wednesday.Nov 26 06:55
DaemonFC800,000+ dead total next time they update.Nov 26 06:55
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activelow"United States vs Microsoft"; one pentagon department farting into another pentagon oneNov 26 06:57
activelowMCDonalds biggest customer of SCO-Unix... now they don't like the smell of their farts of what they had eatenNov 26 06:58
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activelowmany gnu/linux and *BSD have a horrible track record of incompatibilities among themNov 26 07:08
activelowall in common these have, is the typical mindset of "made in USA"Nov 26 07:09
activelowthat's why, i do not follow the common argument of microsoft vs. this and them, because, most of them are the same type of breedNov 26 07:10
activelowJava (sun, ibm, oracle, sap) isn't any better than m$ .NetNov 26 07:11
activelowthat's why, if oracle and sap hack and slay each other, dumped java s*** the toilet years agoNov 26 07:12
activelowi am almost certain, microsoft is standing nearby already, prepared to pull the trigger and smile againNov 26 07:14
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activelowsadly, microsoft didn't succeed with it yet, because, this had spared me almost 5 years of hard work to catch up with the "innovations" of oracle and sun and alikeNov 26 07:15
activelowworked with various db systems many years... then apply for some job, however it doesn't mention a particular vendor to please HR department of theirsNov 26 07:17
activelowgot oracle dbms and ms sqlserver on my record, just because it was common for telco staff to know this.Nov 26 07:17
activelowgood luck when applying for some job which asks for any IBM dbmsNov 26 07:18
activelowmissed any of their innovative scripting language or whatever, which requires a day or two of reading, this doesn't please HR departmentsNov 26 07:18
activelowmost job vacancies are vendor advertisementsNov 26 07:18
activelowsomehow, i am praying for microsoft cuts them a smile into their smirking visagesNov 26 07:19
techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, November 25, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextNov 26 07:24
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techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingNov 26 07:24
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activelowthe next best business prospect for microsoft: operation of global telco backboneNov 26 07:25
activelowideally, with NetBIOS protocol of theirsNov 26 07:26
activelowand some AARD tapping, to shut down GPS globally whenever a non-certifid phone dials intoNov 26 07:27
activelowfew days ago, i briefly reviewd some GPS related things for time synchronization, i think USA prepared well for thisNov 26 07:27
techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Coalition Against #Stalkerware Celebrates Two Years of Work to Keep Technology Safe for All https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/coalition-against-stalkerware-celebrates-two-years-work-keep-technology-safe-allNov 26 07:29
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ Celebrating the community: Cian https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/community-stories-cian-google-apprenticeship/Nov 26 07:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Celebrating the community: Cian - Raspberry PiNov 26 07:30
activelowbtw. i loved the many telco standard documents, written with Microsoft word... sure. microsoft loves telco business.Nov 26 07:30
activelowthis was fun, really, when sitting at a desk of t-mobile in austria, and their microsoft word crashing once a dayNov 26 07:30
schestowitz-TRlolNov 26 07:30
schestowitz-TRwith powerpoint presentationsNov 26 07:31
activelowawesome, some more jokes to tell about thisNov 26 07:31
activelowi'll skip thoseNov 26 07:31
schestowitzhttps://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=789019&owner=excludeNov 26 07:31
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techrights-news#sec #microsoft https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=789019&owner=exclude see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_FinancialsNov 26 07:33
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Filmmakers Want ISP to Share Personal Info of Thousands of Sharers https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-want-isp-to-share-personal-info-of-thousands-of-pirates-211125/Nov 26 07:33
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Online #FileSharing Increases Among Young Finns, But Legal Consumption is Up Too https://torrentfreak.com/online-piracy-increases-among-young-finns-but-legal-consumption-is-up-too-211125/Nov 26 07:33
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techrights-news#13 Best Dark GTK Themes for Your Linux Desktop β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158395 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 Best Dark GTK Themes for Your Linux Desktop | Tux MachinesNov 26 07:37
techrights-newsEndless OS 4 makes the jump to Debian 11 Deepin 20.3 is the new version of the most popular Chinese distro on the scene and as it has beenNov 26 07:48
techrights-news#MX Linux 21 β€˜AHS’ Is Now Available: What Is AHS? β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158396 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux 21 β€˜AHS’ Is Now Available: What Is AHS? | Tux MachinesNov 26 07:49
techrights-news#EndlessOS 4 makes the jump to Debian 11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158350#comment-31878Nov 26 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Endless OS 4.0 Released as Long-Term Supported Series, Based on Debian Bullseye | Tux MachinesNov 26 07:50
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158397 #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 07:50
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techrights-newsDeepin 20.3 Update Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158283#comment-31879Nov 26 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin Linux 20.3 Is Out as One of the First Distros Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux MachinesNov 26 07:51
techrights-news#Slackware 15.0 RC2 Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158085#comment-31880Nov 26 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Linux 15.0 RC2: Current (pre-release) ChangeLog for x86_64 | Tux MachinesNov 26 07:52
techrights-newsπ˜›π˜¦π˜€π˜©π˜³π˜ͺ𝘨𝘩𝘡𝘴 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 25, 2021 β€’ Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2021/11/26/irc-log-251121/ δ·‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/26/irc-log-251121/Nov 26 08:05
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techrights-news"I've been working on a Gemini server framework for #Haskell ." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007635.htmlNov 26 08:07
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techrights-news#covid19 vaccines not curbing the #pandemic h Time for the #patent pool to start hyping up more "variants" as an excuse (all organisms mutate, humans includes). #patents and #monopoliies DISCOURAGE the making of BETTER vaccine.Nov 26 08:16
techrights-news10 holiday gift ideas for open source enthusiasts β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158398 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 holiday gift ideas for open source enthusiasts | Tux MachinesNov 26 08:17
techrights-news● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ 130+ Global Groups Demand #WTO Postpone Meeting Until Vital #Patent Waiver Is Adopted https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/11/25/130-global-groups-demand-wto-postpone-meeting-until-vital-patent-waiver-adopted the #patents and these #monopolies OBSTRUCT development of BETTER vaccines that can SOLVE the issueNov 26 08:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 130+ Global Groups Demand WTO Postpone Meeting Until Vital Patent Waiver Is AdoptedNov 26 08:19
techrights-news● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies ☞ Human Rights Defenders Threaten Legal Action Against Countries Fueling #Vaccine Inequality https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/11/25/human-rights-defenders-threaten-legal-action-against-countries-fueling-vaccineNov 26 08:20
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techrights-news"Kubernetes v1.22, released in August 2021, introduced a new alpha feature that improves how Linux nodes implement memory resource requests and limits." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/11/26/qos-memory-resources/ #KubernetesNov 26 08:38
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activelowanyway, SCO is *not* AT&TNov 26 08:44
activelowso, who and what were they?Nov 26 08:44
activelowbecause, the author of PCC isn't SCO/caldera, it were Johnson, Ritchi, among many othersNov 26 08:45
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activelowinteresting, "canopy group", invested into rarely any known project, except: caldera/sco and trolltechNov 26 09:52
activelowtrolltech/nokia/telco ...Nov 26 09:53
activelowall i know and remember is this: Deutsche Telekom UniversityNov 26 09:54
activelowthe telco realm (itu-t, different protocols) is distinct from the internet oneNov 26 09:55
activelowand, most of what i am confronted with on gnu/linux rarely ever interesects with the highly critical lectures of telcoNov 26 09:55
activelowthat's why, i find it confusing, how important some foss people think they wereNov 26 09:56
activelowmy opinion, which i enjoy the freedom to express: real engineering and science, there is a lot more to it than what most hackers and programmers comprehendNov 26 09:56
activelowi suspect, the maths and engineering lecturs are somewhat coordianted, internationallyNov 26 09:57
activelowone of the most important ones: signal processing (analog, mathematics), which MIT lectures tooNov 26 09:58
activelowencoding and modulation schemes, this is anything but trivialNov 26 10:00
activelowmaybe, that's why there isn't any foss WiFi chip anywhere, to my knowledge?Nov 26 10:00
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activelowi must admit, although in the beginning following maths lectures wasn't problematic for meNov 26 10:01
activelowthen, i made a mistake: which was thinking "ok, i could follow maths in the last 15years, however the unix/linux stuff is confusing me. what th.. is this?"Nov 26 10:01
activelowso, instead of sticking to my maths book, i was impressed of what i didn't know yet: programming, java, databases... and this required too much attentionNov 26 10:02
activelowthen, back to digital circuit design, asm, analog electronics, signal processing ... that was too much, in 3 yearsNov 26 10:02
activelowgranted, i am impressed about java and programmers who invest their entire live, i did read the java book in less than a week, and memorized itNov 26 10:03
activelowthen, back to some borland c++ ide and program some bubblesort? this type of chaotic schedule triggered psychosis.Nov 26 10:04
activelowbest part of it is, seems, deutsche telekom in fact treats such students as their "property"Nov 26 10:05
activelowthe patent quackery surrounding wifi chips and whatever, this is nonsense. what's required is educated staff. engineers which require *decades* of training since their childhoodNov 26 10:06
activelowand, most of them are rarely ever "privileged cis white male"Nov 26 10:07
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activelowanyway, recent "news" were Deutsche Telekom plans to outsource the remaining 3% of t-systems (operator of SDH synchronous circuit switched global backbone, if this wasn't "improved upon" too)Nov 26 10:09
activelowor, to put it another way, the real heart and core of telco, t-systems, doesn't account for more than 3% of total cash flow of telecomNov 26 10:10
activelownow they're in trouble i think, because t-systems got some customers: german military, radar, signal intelligence, ESA aerospaceNov 26 10:11
activelowthe east-german telekom university had a different tradition than the AT&T western "bell labs", and most equipment available after 1990 was the typicalNov 26 10:12
activelowmatlab, wintel, various proprietary signal stuff, scopes, tectronix multi protocol boxes routing and switching all types stuffNov 26 10:13
activelowthanks lord, i quit with this early: the tectronix magic, some wintel system, and they were desperate to hire c++ coders, 20 years ago alreadyNov 26 10:14
activelowmy opinion, in the early days of "telco", no coordination and planning existed, to interconnect the early telephone linesNov 26 10:20
activelowanyone who wished to do so, did a private investment and pulled a cable to any neighborNov 26 10:21
activelowthere is photos of this, hundred years ago... USA, until when they realized some AT&T company was required, to coordinate thisNov 26 10:21
activelownowadays, the situation seems to be, this type of unmanaged chaos is common practice almost everywhere with anythingNov 26 10:22
activelowthat's why, BGP routing table size explodesNov 26 10:22
activelowthat's why linux kernel, compiler, and anything blows upNov 26 10:22
activelowthat's why dozens of incompatible distros, programming langauges, incompatible SQL databasesNov 26 10:24
activelowGCC/FSF were troubled by this too, i think, initially, when they rejected many "improvements" to their compiler suiteNov 26 10:25
activelowthen gcc was forked, and those who presented their "improvements" with millions of lines of code, it is them and their mindset now in chargeNov 26 10:26
activelowintel wanted to see MMX extensions, proprietary, non-standard, to boast about their "superior" simd extensions, it went inNov 26 10:27
activelowawesome, GNU hearded by IBM Wintel instead of competent and independent university staffNov 26 10:29
activelow"academic freedom"Nov 26 10:30
activelowbecause, an independent university could have said: IBM Wintel, gtfo, exam failed, we don't want your compiler "improvements"Nov 26 10:30
activelowbtw. IBM Wintel, you forgot about your signal processing lecture and mathsNov 26 10:31
activelowinstead, for at least two decades now, this type of business reinvents the wheel, with absolute zero innovation anywhereNov 26 10:31
activelowmy opinion: the techical quality of software and hardware declined, dramatically. what improved only, and this is important too, of cause, is economic capitalization, for ordinary customers, everyone can afford a mainframe scale computer system nowadays.Nov 26 10:33
activelowwhich too is the explanation, early *nix hackers, those were skilled academics, and rarely anyone else had access to some mainframeNov 26 10:33
activelowany fool, who "invested" into any of the nvidia, wintel, ibm stocks... guest what this type of "management" favorsNov 26 10:34
activelowthat's why, Telekom, invests into "magenta TV", netflix, and similar nonsenseNov 26 10:34
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activelowanyway, i am not saying a global synchronous circtuit switched ultra-low-latency backbone network is necessaryNov 26 10:43
activelownonetheless, at least, i think, everyone should know such existed: it's called SONET or SDHNov 26 10:43
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activelowthe telco people try to organize their thinking with the "OSI model", 7 layers of networkingNov 26 10:44
activelowi find the "lowest" layer, layer1, being among the most fascinating, with both mathematics and physicsNov 26 10:45
activelowthere you'll find the typical fourier/laplace/lagrange maths related, encodign and modulation schemes, to name things such as QPSK, TrellisNov 26 10:46
activelowbtw. 56k modems are still relevant, as are hayes300 modems, for educational purpose; suspect most patents are expired; this isn't the challenge anymoreNov 26 10:47
activelowmaybe, standards are more relevant, than patentsNov 26 10:48
activelowhowever, if you had seen the chaos... i mean, even if telekom paid me 10k cash monthly, which they won't, i wouldn't do itNov 26 10:49
activelowand, furthermore, i doubt there is rarely any capable staff remaining, who could keep oversight, for managementNov 26 10:50
activelowbecause, this requires decades of educationNov 26 10:50
activelowfurthermore, if lawyers think they could arrange for telco management, i am outNov 26 10:50
activelowsame with politicians, and their managementNov 26 10:53
activelowand the arrogance, to think political quackery and lawsuits could compensate for decades of maths and engineering know-howNov 26 10:57
activelowanyway, i knew already, 20 years ago, if the lecture schedule be telekom, if this originated in telekom headquarter, politics, whereverNov 26 11:00
activelowi remember all of it... and so far, my prognosis were correct, doesn't require the perception of a geniusNov 26 11:01
activelownow, listen, this is my prognosis: the internet, it will collapse, not instantly, with a prolonged declineNov 26 11:02
activelowIPv6? it won't fix the address shortage issue, because this wasn't the most urgent one anyway, it is the BGP routing tables, unmanaged global backbone topologyNov 26 11:04
activelowcosts will explodeNov 26 11:04
activelowsomehow, this isn't a prognosis anymoreNov 26 11:04
activelowthe pcc/gcc thought, it's a minor side joke of itNov 26 11:07
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activelowcannot believe this: British Telecom shuts down SDH (bellcore)Nov 26 11:27
activelowgerman telekom plans to outsource their t-systems section, because, it's only 3% of total cash flow?Nov 26 11:28
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▅▆▄▅▂▂▅▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▃▃▄▂▃▅▅▁▄▂▂▄▁▂▄▂▅▄▁▁ avg(k/sec) 13.43 β–•  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▃▄▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▄▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 5.76β–• swarm size (avg): 258.69  βŸ²Nov 26 11:28
activelowok, maybe Cisco operates an independent global backbone, based on IP routing protocols? i do not know.Nov 26 11:29
activelowanyway, if voice-call POTS is fully migrated onto "all internet protocol" (all IP)Nov 26 11:30
activelowimagine this, if BGP routers blow up, what happens then?Nov 26 11:30
activelowreminder, some other news were, "emergency call" system outages in germany. don't know if this was scheduled maintenance.Nov 26 11:31
activelowbut it was several hours, during the night, nation-wide.Nov 26 11:31
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activelowanother difference of Telko networks to "the internet": telko backbone was *managed*Nov 26 11:36
activelowhowever, some fools decided, "privatization of telecom" to benefit shareholders, to gamble with telko backboneNov 26 11:37
activelowboth, EU and USA did it.Nov 26 11:37
activelowserious question, had 1k salary monthly for me been too much asked for?Nov 26 11:38
activelowwhen some western management staff arrived, at the university, some held lectures: "input output, this university costs cash, blah"Nov 26 11:44
activelowmy thinking: f** y** a**hole, closed it and work for yourselfNov 26 11:45
activelowok, competition, it was ignited, and who would be willing to explain now, why BT shuts down SDH? or what caused emergency call system outages in germany?Nov 26 11:45
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activelowSCO/Caldera, Trolltech, Canopy Group, Utah, Texas... AT&T headquarted in, TexasNov 26 12:00
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158410 #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 26 12:02
activelowwell, Trolltec is Nokia, is Telco againNov 26 12:03
activelowbtw. Motorola/68k is/was some telco-related business tooNov 26 12:03
activelowalthough, i do not know where the famous bell labs wereNov 26 12:03
activelowapropos Google, they didn't want to touch Motorola for too long iircNov 26 12:04
activelowTexas Instruments, uhm Texas, ditched their 68k series, and introduced some ARM based calculators nowNov 26 12:06
activelowshake hands with the brits, anyway, british telecom shut down SDH bellcore?Nov 26 12:06
activelowdoes anyone of those managers know what they're doing?Nov 26 12:06
activelowok, i mean, let's sell this (ARM) to Nvidia, a gaming company, and bitcoin expert, no better to hand over critical infrastructure to.Nov 26 12:08
activelowwhat a retarded nonsense. btw. i remember german tv broadcasted bitcoin prayers prime time, because it benefit women in Argentina, because, women's rights to grab some screwdriver and plug into an invidia cardNov 26 12:09
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techrights-news#KiwiTCMS 10.5 β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158411 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kiwi TCMS 10.5 | Tux MachinesNov 26 12:19
activelowanyway, this is what i think, about Linux. What's linux, is the kernel, and torvalds among others are, competent. end of dicussion.Nov 26 12:21
activelowlinux kernel, was leading ahead.Nov 26 12:21
activelowalltogether, OpenBSD, i keep that on my radar.Nov 26 12:22
activelowhowever, this software/operating-system stuff, it's only a fraction of the issues to think about.Nov 26 12:23
activelowcurrently, none of the linux distros, i consider none of them as long-term reliable, not at least solaris, none of it.Nov 26 12:23
activelowunreliableNov 26 12:23
psydruidWhat is wrong with Solaris and why was it used in Telecom for such a long time, if it's unreliable?Nov 26 12:25
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techrights-newsWasted 3-4 hours debugging since last night... due to some stupid stupid stupid invisible character creeping in. I spent ages sanitising the inputs too, but this one was barely detectable to anything...Nov 26 12:35
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activelowpsydruid: didn't say unreliable, i said long-term reliableNov 26 12:59
activelowalong my way of thinking, it is this, i had alot more to worry about than most of the usual problems the GNU and BSD and Unix people haveNov 26 13:00
activeloweven microsoft or IBM, they're small fishes, from my perspectiveNov 26 13:00
activelowZilog Z80, that's a big fish, not IBMNov 26 13:01
activelowthink about it, space shuttle operation, is planed and scheduled for 40 years of operationNov 26 13:01
activelowtelco backbone, i mean, how long should this operate? motorola sold to ibm sold to google and then you're out of luck?Nov 26 13:02
activelowis this coincidence, BT shut down SDH?Nov 26 13:02
activelowSun microsystems? defunct. oracle? do you really believe i would consider some proprietary monstrosity such as this?Nov 26 13:03
activelowok, Deutsche Telekom did. wish them best of luckNov 26 13:03
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techrights-newsApt vs Apt-get Commands Explained: Which One To Use? βš“ https://www.ubuntupit.com/apt-vs-apt-get-commands-explained-and-which-one-to-use/ δ·‰ #UbuntuPIT #GNU #LinuxNov 26 13:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | Apt vs Apt-get Commands Explained: Which One To Use?Nov 26 13:17
techrights-newsSigh. More #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware plugs from #phoronix today...Nov 26 13:18
techrights-news#freesw re-implementation of Caesar III, Augustus v3.1 is out | GamingOnLinux βš“ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/open-source-re-implementation-of-caesar-iii-augustus-v31-is-out/ δ·‰ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧Nov 26 13:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source re-implementation of Caesar III, Augustus v3.1 is out | GamingOnLinuxNov 26 13:19
techrights-news#Capcom on #archlinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/capcom-shows-off-official-video-of-devil-may-cry-5-steam-deck/ #gnu #linuxNov 26 13:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Capcom shows off official video of Devil May Cry 5 on the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinuxNov 26 13:21
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activelowthe entire industry, "progressed" too fast, at the expense of long-term reliable operationNov 26 13:30
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blitzed!COFFEE Nov 26 13:49
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techrights-news#Games: X4: Tides of Avarice, Devil May Cry 5, Caesar III β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158412 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: X4: Tides of Avarice, Devil May Cry 5, Caesar III | Tux MachinesNov 26 14:02
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techrights-news"Developers usually think of timezones, but European summertime changes can be easily overlooked. I have to admit I overlooked them when parsing dates with DateTime.from_naive!/2." https://nts.strzibny.name/datetime-summer-time/Nov 26 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | Summer and winter time changes with DateTimeNov 26 15:09
techrights-newsTuxedo releases the Tiger Lake-H-powered InfinityBook S17 - Gen6, its smallest 17-inch Linux laptop yet - NotebookCheck.net News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158404#comment-31883Nov 26 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO InfinityBook S 17 Linux Laptop Unveiled with 11th Gen Tiger Lake CPUs, Compact Design | Tux MachinesNov 26 15:11
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158413 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesNov 26 15:12
techrights-newsWhy PHP Is Getting a Foundation and Why That Matters - FOSS Force βš“ https://fossforce.com/2021/11/why-php-is-getting-a-foundation-and-why-it-matters/ δ·‰ #fossforce | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/26/#latestNov 26 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Why PHP Is Getting a Foundation and Why That Matters - FOSS ForceNov 26 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsNov 26 15:13
techrights-news#Bitrot resistance of next-generation #image formats βš“ https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/bitrot-avif-jxl-comparison.html δ·‰ #ctrl | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/26/#latestNov 26 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Bitrot resistance of next-generation image formatsNov 26 15:15
psydruidI think playing videos on the framebuffer on the Orange Pi works better than under XNov 26 15:17
schestowitz-TRfb?Nov 26 15:24
schestowitz-TRdirect?Nov 26 15:24
psydruidyesNov 26 15:26
psydruidusing ffplayNov 26 15:26
psydruidit uses libdrm, thoughNov 26 15:27
psydruidin DebianNov 26 15:27
SomeH4x0rwhat is wrong with libdrm?Nov 26 15:27
psydruidnothingNov 26 15:28
psydruidI think it manages to use acceleration that wayNov 26 15:28
psydruidI don't think it did the previous time I tried 2 years agoNov 26 15:29
psydruidnow playback is smooth with 60%-80% CPU usageNov 26 15:29
psydruidhmm, it has just lost soundNov 26 15:31
psydruidand also the keyboardNov 26 15:34
psydruidand then it crashed and rebootedNov 26 15:55
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techrights-newsGit, curl, systemd Roll with Tumbleweed β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158414 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git, curl, systemd Roll with Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesNov 26 16:10
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techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▂▃▄▅▂▃▅▃▃▄▅▆▅▄▄▃▅▆▄▄▆▂▃▅▁▃▄▂▃▅▂▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 17.63 β–•  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▃▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▁▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 6.10β–• swarm size (avg): 258.67  βŸ²Nov 26 16:10
techrights-news#Thunderbird & no email associated to perform action error β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158415 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thunderbird & no email associated to perform action error | Tux MachinesNov 26 16:10
techrights-newsApt vs Apt-get Commands Explained: Which One To Use? β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158416 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apt vs Apt-get Commands Explained: Which One To Use? | Tux MachinesNov 26 16:13
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techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158417 #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 26 16:21
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psydruidhttps://antitrust.nextcloud.com/Nov 26 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-antitrust.nextcloud.com | EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with MicrosoftNov 26 16:34
psydruidhttps://eueditorial.com/nextcloud-complaint-to-the-federal-cartel-office-about-microsoft/Nov 26 16:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nextcloud: Complaint to the Federal Cartel Office about Microsoft | EueditorialNov 26 16:34
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techrights-news#flatpak has greatly complicated running applications in #gnu #linux in the name of "helping users"... I'm learning all the commands now, reminds me of #systemdNov 26 17:28
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▃▄▅▄▂▂▃▂▆▄▅▅▅▅▄▃▄▅▆▆▅▆▄▁▇▅▆▃▄▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 20.55 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–‚β–‚β–‚β–‚β–β–β–β–ˆβ–β–β–‚β–β–‡β–β–ƒβ–„β–‚β–β–β–β–β–‚β–‚β–β–‚β–‚β–ƒβ–β–‚β–‚β–β–‚β–‚β–β–‚β– avg(k/sec) 20.80β–• swarm size (avg): 258.65  βŸ²Nov 26 17:28
techrights-news#gnu #linux user 2000: it's easy, you just run the binary. #ibm #redhat : no, no... we've "improved" things. Now it's /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=librewolf --file-forwarding io.gitlab.librewolf-communityNov 26 17:31
techrights-news#ibm #redhat does not care about X forwarding and many people who rely on it. This goes beyond the #wayland shotgun wedding.Nov 26 17:39
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techrights-news#EuroLinux 8.5 is out. https://en.euro-linux.com/eurolinux/ #rhel #gnu #linuxNov 26 18:01
-altlink_406/#techrights-πŸ“£ Cloudflare: euro-linux.com | πŸ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://en.euro-linux.com/eurolinux/Nov 26 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.euro-linux.com | EuroLinux – professional, enterprise-class system | EuroLinuxNov 26 18:01
techrights-newsLinux overview | #deepinLinux 20.3 - Invidious βš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6w0rcPc8gF0 δ·‰ #video #invidious #gnu #linuxNov 26 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux overview | deepin 20.3 - InvidiousNov 26 18:02
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DaemonFCThis Rob Landley guy couldn't get better wth a side of fries.Nov 26 18:19
DaemonFCI hadn't noticed how anti-GPL and anti-FSF he was.Nov 26 18:20
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DaemonFCAnd our friend GAFAM appears to be anti-suckless?Nov 26 18:21
DaemonFCI haven't tried it. Although I do generally despise programs that try to branch out in all directions and do all sorts of things.Nov 26 18:22
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DaemonFChttp://freshmeat.sourceforge.net/articles/stop-the-autoconf-insanity-why-we-need-a-new-build-systemNov 26 18:24
-altlink_591/#techrights-πŸ“£ Cloudflare: sourceforge.net | πŸ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://freshmeat.sourceforge.net/articles/stop-the-autoconf-insanity-why-we-need-a-new-build-systemNov 26 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freshmeat.sourceforge.net | Stop the autoconf insanity! Why we need a new build system. – FreecodeNov 26 18:24
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DaemonFCIt's boundless, really.Nov 26 18:24
DaemonFCIt performs tests to see if it runs on UNIX systems that have not been maintained in over twenty years in the latest version.Nov 26 18:25
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DaemonFCThose old systems got most stuff right anyway.Nov 26 18:26
DaemonFCNow Red Hat/IBM reinvents the wheel simply to use more RAM and add eye candy and dependencies on OpenGL.Nov 26 18:26
DaemonFCI've been playing around with some of the smaller window managers including some that remind me of CDE.Nov 26 18:27
DaemonFCWhen I got into using Compiz on GNOME 2, I liked my desktop just fine. Compiz was never really that unstable until Canonical "sponsored it" and rewrote a bunch of the core and modules in C++.Nov 26 18:29
DaemonFCThen it was crashing all the time.Nov 26 18:29
DaemonFCShuttleworth with his sour grapes speech glossed over how truly awful Compiz 0.9.x and early Unity were.Nov 26 18:30
DaemonFCI feel like it would have been more of a success if they held back for one more LTS round and included it in 12.10 as a tech preview.Nov 26 18:31
DaemonFCIt turned out it has all sorts of bugs, especially Compiz, that just didn't become apparent until you started throwing all sorts of kinds of graphics cards at it.Nov 26 18:32
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DaemonFCMy understanding is someone forked Unity and it works fine now.Nov 26 18:33
DaemonFCThey're even shipping Nemo file manager instead of Nautilus.Nov 26 18:33
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DaemonFCThere's a lot of opinions out there about the new Nautilus. Some like the simplicity and some don't like not having those features removed, but that's pretty cool, that Nemo is out there.Nov 26 18:34
DaemonFCI don't use it, but anyone who wants to can. It can even be jury rigged to replace Nautilus in GNOME.Nov 26 18:34
DaemonFC*don't like having those features removedNov 26 18:35
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DaemonFCI guess it all boils down to what people consider UI bloat.Nov 26 18:35
DaemonFCIf I'm just trying to get at my files, anything that comes up that doesn't further that goal is bloat.Nov 26 18:35
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I plan to continue mocking Edge for a while.Nov 26 18:35
DaemonFCIn addition to the MS Office spam that you can't remove from the right-click menu, now it encourages overspending at almost every merchant site because those pay in installment plans are giving Microsoft a cut if you sign up to overspend.Nov 26 18:36
DaemonFCThere's no actual ad banner in the web browser's UI yet (unless you count the new tab page).Nov 26 18:37
DaemonFCWhy are people angry about clean web browsers that don't do this?Nov 26 18:37
DaemonFCI'm annoyed when I click a text field and I've got some stupid contraption going "Let me remember your credit card!".Nov 26 18:38
DaemonFCAll these things loosening you up to spend more.Nov 26 18:42
DaemonFCI don't like things that make it easier to lose track of spending.Nov 26 18:42
DaemonFCThis pay in installments thing that Edge does is evil shit, because it will appeal to people who have negative net assets and they'll go "Hey, you know, I have $400 in the bank and $5,000 in debt, let's split this playstation up!".Nov 26 18:43
DaemonFCAnd whether it has interest on the loans or not is, well, interest would be worse. But it's not good to think that you can afford the playstation when you're $4,600 in the hole already and rent's coming up.Nov 26 18:44
DaemonFCAnd many people are worse than this, and I can see how Microsoft could have been paid well to shove this in right before a Christmas where the merchants are freaking out because 13% of Americans say they'll buy nothing. Now they may "guilt-spend" with money they don't have, enabled by Edge.Nov 26 18:45
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DaemonFCPeople are scared, they don't want to spend, and I think the merchants are giving Microsoft a taste in order to ship flexible payments.Nov 26 19:05
DaemonFCIt works like an ad. You're going "I can't afford that!" and then Edge says "Let me break it into five payments.".Nov 26 19:06
DaemonFC"Oh, okay!"Nov 26 19:06
DaemonFCMerchants essentially financing sales of their own product at zero percent on the down low because the economy is so rotten.Nov 26 19:07
DaemonFCEven before the troubles, automakers were already doing this.Nov 26 19:07
DaemonFCThey jacked the price of their cars sky high and then offered 0% in house finance.Nov 26 19:07
DaemonFCIf you make the price really high it doesn't matter if the interest is 0%, but it lets them legally advertise 0% interest.Nov 26 19:08
DaemonFCYou're buying a car that's in a category that's gone up 30% in the last several years.Nov 26 19:08
DaemonFCThey finance it at 0%. How does that work?Nov 26 19:08
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The IRS is getting nastier.Nov 26 19:09
DaemonFC"Build Back Better!"Nov 26 19:09
DaemonFCBestest country ever.Nov 26 19:09
DaemonFCIt's getting nastier with sharper teeth, for the poor and the dwindling middle class.Nov 26 19:09
DaemonFCThe rich get $200 billion in direct tax cuts in the same Democrat Party bill./Nov 26 19:10
DaemonFCThey've figured out ways to technically not raise taxes on people making mid to low incomes, but in effect that's what happens.Nov 26 19:11
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techrights-news#EuroLinux 8.5 Release Notes - EuroLinux Documentation β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158418 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EuroLinux 8.5 Release Notes - EuroLinux Documentation | Tux MachinesNov 26 19:21
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, https://i.redd.it/790e9z54wx181.jpgNov 26 19:26
DaemonFCMcDonalds is now doing this, it seems.Nov 26 19:26
DaemonFCThey make you count to twelve in $1 increments to see how much the job pays per hour. WTF.Nov 26 19:26
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DaemonFCWhen you graduated high school so McDonalds can send you back to pre-school.Nov 26 19:27
DaemonFCIt gets you thinking about how little a dollar is actually worth anymore.Nov 26 19:28
DaemonFCOf course, people were railing about that 20 years ago.Nov 26 19:28
DaemonFCI got my wisdom teeth removed and the dentist billed my insurance over $2,000 to extract four teeth, 20 years ago.Nov 26 19:28
DaemonFCI was like holy fucking shit.Nov 26 19:29
DaemonFC$500 a tooth was 20 years ago Roy.Nov 26 19:29
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DaemonFCIf anyone you know only got charged $600 that's less money inflation-adjusted.Nov 26 19:29
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techrights-newsThe APT package manager has been patched to prevent the uninstallation of essential components - LinuxStoney βš“ https://linuxstoney.com/the-apt-package-manager-has-been-patched-to-prevent-the-uninstallation-of-essential-components/Nov 26 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The APT package manager has been patched to prevent the uninstallation of essential components - LinuxStoneyNov 26 20:17
techrights-news【Distro】Rating Wallpapers = Distro Review | Sudo 25k Special - Invidious βš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9DQ_LckmAlI δ·‰ #video #invidious #gnu #linuxNov 26 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 【Distro】Rating Wallpapers = Distro Review | Sudo 25k Special - InvidiousNov 26 20:21
techrights-news#malware advertised inside malware (the #microsoft #windows malware, the "professional" malware) https://dwaves.de/2021/11/26/fake-windows-update-messages-in-windows-10-edge-browser-via-google-picture-search-searchterm-cosmos/Nov 26 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Β» Fake Windows Update Messages in Windows 10 Edge Browser via Google Picture search (searchterm: Cosmos) | dwaves.deNov 26 20:22
techrights-newsPHP 8.1 is Here Studded with Highly Requested Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158385#comment-31884Nov 26 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PHP 8.1 Released | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:26
techrights-newsGodot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.1 RC 1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157623#comment-31885Nov 26 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Godot 3.4 is released with major features and UX polish | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:30
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techrights-newsThe rocky road to better Linux software installation β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158419 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The rocky road to better Linux software installation | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:35
techrights-news#IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 161 released β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158420 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 161 released | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:35
techrights-news#FullCircleMagazine #175 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/2021/11/26/full-circle-magazine-175/ #gnu #linuxNov 26 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Magazine #175 | Full Circle MagazineNov 26 20:36
DaemonFCactivelow, https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-government-increase-minimum-wage-workers-three-per-cent-2021-11Nov 26 20:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Germany Plans to Increase Its the Minimum Wage by 25%Nov 26 20:39
DaemonFCHow generous. Like then giving workers a 25% increase here and then food and utilities goes up 35%.Nov 26 20:39
techrights-news"Following California’s lead, a new #UK law would ban default passwords in IoT devices." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/11/proposed-uk-law-bans-default-passwords.htmlNov 26 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proposed UK Law Bans Default Passwords - Schneier on SecurityNov 26 20:41
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techrights-news13 Best Dark GTK Themes for Your Linux Desktop β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158421 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 Best Dark GTK Themes for Your Linux Desktop | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:46
techrights-newsScientific evolution sim Thrive is now available on itch.io and Steam | GamingOnLinux βš“ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/scientific-evolution-sim-thrive-is-now-on-itchio-and-steam/ δ·‰ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/26/#latestNov 26 20:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scientific evolution sim Thrive is now available on itch.io and Steam | GamingOnLinuxNov 26 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsNov 26 20:49
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158423 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:49
techrights-news#EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by #Microsoft , files official complaint β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158424 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by Microsoft, files official complaint | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:53
techrights-news#openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/47 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158414#comment-31886Nov 26 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git, curl, systemd Roll with Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:55
techrights-news#postmarketOS revolutionizes smartphone hacking β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158425 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | postmarketOS revolutionizes smartphone hacking | Tux MachinesNov 26 20:59
techrights-news" #Perl has had experimental features ever since I started using it at about version 5.6. These were things that were considered useful, but about which there was doubt -- about their final form, whether a satisfactory implementation existed, or whatever." http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2021/11/my-favorite-warnings-experimental.htmlNov 26 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Favorite Warnings: experimental | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]Nov 26 21:02
techrights-news#GregKroahHartman Releases Linux 5.10.82, 5.4.162, 4.19.218, 4.14.256, 4.9.291, and 4.4.293. β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158426 #GPL #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Greg Kroah-Hartman Releases Linux 5.10.82, 5.4.162, 4.19.218, 4.14.256, 4.9.291, and 4.4.293. | Tux MachinesNov 26 21:04
techrights-news"Here’s your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and what’s coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" #ibm doomed the community part; #fedora is just #redhat staff these days. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-47/Nov 26 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-47 – Fedora Community BlogNov 26 21:05
techrights-newsFaking wealth https://fale.io/blog/2021/11/26/web3-the-risk-of-namingNov 26 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fale.io | NO TITLENov 26 21:06
techrights-news#Security Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158427 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 26 21:06
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techrights-newsVenus on #QEMU : Enabling the new virtual #Vulkan driver β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158428 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Venus on QEMU: Enabling the new virtual Vulkan driver | Tux MachinesNov 26 21:09
techrights-newsCraft Parts - Reusable code, #Snapcraft style | Ubuntu βš“ https://ubuntu.com//blog/craft-parts-reusable-code-snapcraft-style δ·‰ #ubuntuNov 26 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Craft Parts – Reusable code, Snapcraft style | UbuntuNov 26 21:12
techrights-news#Mozilla Performance Blog: Performance Sheriff Newsletter (October 2021) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/11/26/performance-sheriff-newsletter-october-2021/Nov 26 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (October 2021) – Mozilla PerformanceNov 26 21:13
techrights-news#Games: Thrive, DLSS, and Proton β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158429 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Thrive, DLSS, and Proton | Tux MachinesNov 26 21:15
techrights-newsThe #TimDillon Show with #WhitneyWebb βš“ https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/11/press/the-tim-dillon-show-with-whitney-webb/ δ·‰ #unlimitedhangoutNov 26 21:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unlimitedhangout.com | The Tim Dillon Show with Whitney WebbNov 26 21:21
techrights-news#LWJGL - The Lightweight #Java #Game Library Version 3.3 Released βš“ https://www.i-programmer.info/news/80-java/15041-lwjgl-the-lightweight-java-game-library-version-33-released.html δ·‰ #iprogrammer #programmingNov 26 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.i-programmer.info | LWJGL - The Lightweight Java Game Library Version 3.3 ReleasedNov 26 21:22
techrights-news#GhostBSD 21.11.24 ISO is now available β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158430 ##BSD #UNIX#TuxMachinesNov 26 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GhostBSD 21.11.24 ISO is now available | Tux MachinesNov 26 21:23
techrights-news#Seaberry Turns A #RaspberryPi 4 Into A Linux Powered ITX System β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158431 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seaberry Turns A Raspberry Pi 4 Into A Linux Powered ITX System | Tux MachinesNov 26 21:27
techrights-news"Update on what happened across the #GNOME project in the week from November 19 to November 26." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2021/11/twig-20/ #gnu #linuxNov 26 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thisweek.gnome.org | #20 Colorful Characters Β· This Week in GNOMENov 26 21:28
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techrights-news#KDE/Ken Vermette: New Icons, Iconoclast Pipeline β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158432 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE/Ken Vermette: New Icons, Iconoclast Pipeline | Tux MachinesNov 26 21:31
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techrights-newsWow. About half a million views of the #mono wiki page http://techrights.org/wiki/MonoNov 26 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mono - TechrightsNov 26 21:59
techrights-newsToday’s π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158433 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 26 22:03
techrights-news#Programming Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158434 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 26 22:03
DaemonFCBrave lets you help them index other search engines when you use those.Nov 26 22:05
schestowitz-TR0/Nov 26 22:05
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: what articles did you have in mind re edgeNov 26 22:06
schestowitz-TR[20:53] <techrights-news> #EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by #Microsoft , files official complaint β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158424 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by Microsoft, files official complaint | Tux MachinesNov 26 22:06
schestowitz-TRdon't miss this one!!!Nov 26 22:06
schestowitz-TRCould use media attentionNov 26 22:06
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Promoting debt slavery with installment payments.Nov 26 22:06
schestowitz-TRthe bill-led media won't cover itNov 26 22:06
DaemonFCJust in time for guilt-spending by people with no money.Nov 26 22:06
DaemonFCThe Dow cratered today btw.Nov 26 22:06
schestowitz-TRgreat!!Nov 26 22:06
schestowitz-TRthat doesn't mean "the economy"Nov 26 22:07
schestowitz-TRit's a yardstick of passage of wealth upwardsNov 26 22:07
schestowitz-TRlike middle class compelled to throw money on Wall Streett bubblesNov 26 22:07
schestowitz-TRlike "Tesla" and "uber" plansNov 26 22:07
schestowitz-TRlosing money, claiming your shares have POSITIVE valueNov 26 22:07
schestowitz-TR]another pentgon bailout for Microsoft in the making...Nov 26 22:08
schestowitz-TRDonald Biden nearly shed a tearNov 26 22:08
techrights-news#wallstreet tanking on BLACK Friday. Movie in the making; Wall Street Unmasked: Co-Pay-19. How the oligarchs tricked the middle class to put all the savings in shares worth less than a tenth their real value. Featuring Donald Ponzi-Biden and Joe Madoff-Trump.Nov 26 22:12
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kingoffranceif it doesnt go up, theres a problem: inflation says it should always be going up.     that is just to say:   when politicians say stocks went up, that is what is supposed to happen normallyNov 26 22:13
kingoffrancethey take credit for things that should happen normallyNov 26 22:14
kingoffrancei saw tihs on tv news "what is a point?"  "a dollar"Nov 26 22:15
kingoffrancethey didnt quite say that but lolNov 26 22:16
schestowitz-TRtrueNov 26 22:16
kingoffrancethey almost got there, didnt make the connectionNov 26 22:17
techrights-newsIf #xmas was a holiday of giving "made in USA" gifts, what would be given, bombs and rifles? We sure know all the plastic ones (and fireworks) have been outsourced to sweatshops abroad already. What does the USA have left to export? "Stock market"?Nov 26 22:18
techrights-newsToday’s π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers β€’ Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158435 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesNov 26 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 26 22:18
techrights-newsThe many articles I wrote about #gatesfoundation and #billgates aged very well (15+ years). In many aspects I was "ahead" of the media... not that it could not get the facts, it chose to take bribes instead.Nov 26 22:19
techrights-newsLinks 26/11/2021: New Complaint About Microsoft Competition Crimes in Europe, EuroLinux 8.5, GhostBSD 21.11.24, and Kiwi TCMS 10.5 Released β€’ Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2021/11/26/eurolinux-8-5/ δ·‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/26/eurolinux-8-5/Nov 26 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/11/2021: New Complaint About Microsoft Competition Crimes in Europe, EuroLinux 8.5, GhostBSD 21.11.24, and Kiwi TCMS 10.5 Released | TechrightsNov 26 22:23
techrights-newsThey've called it Wall Street because it's a virtual wall which separates the robbers and the robbed. Like city gates. The robbed do all the actual work, whereas lazy speculators steal all the capita and use some of it to buy the media, looking to justify the robbery ("job creators", "philanthropy" etc.)Nov 26 22:25
techrights-newsBlack Friday (US): a way to "stick it" in black people's faces, revelling in the fact few of them can afford that stupid and pointless ritual without maxing up credit cards (which would in fact render them "modern-day" slaves). Don't fall for it. Start living, stop shopping.Nov 26 22:28
techrights-newsComputer games in #geminiProtocol (creative with limited specs) https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007641.htmlNov 26 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Announcing SpellBinding, a cgi game for GeminiNov 26 22:29
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techrights-news#billgates BRIBED publisher on #microsoft crimes (careful there... he renewed the #bribery months ago... might not renew again) https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/deutsche-softwarefirma-beschwert-sich-beim-bundeskartellamt-ueber-microsoft-a-45932126-240e-4756-9058-b5a0e85c2a79?context=issueNov 26 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spiegel.de | Nextcloud: Deutsche Softwarefirma beschwert sich beim Bundeskartellamt ΓΌber Microsoft - DER SPIEGELNov 26 22:33
techrights-news#microsoft #crime #corruption #criminals #europe https://antitrust.nextcloud.com/ https://eueditorial.com/nextcloud-complaint-to-the-federal-cartel-office-about-microsoft/ also see http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/Nov 26 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-antitrust.nextcloud.com | EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with MicrosoftNov 26 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nextcloud: Complaint to the Federal Cartel Office about Microsoft | EueditorialNov 26 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law β€” Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and β€œSlush Funds” | TechrightsNov 26 22:33
techrights-newsA Bill Gates-bribed (repeatedly) 'news' site captures audiences http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158424#comment-31887Nov 26 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by Microsoft, files official complaint | Tux MachinesNov 26 22:38
techrights-newsMany people from #nextcloud came from #suse ... some of them predating #microsoft killing their employer, #novellNov 26 22:39
techrights-news#microsoft = organised #crime http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/Nov 26 22:40
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The cats are eating turkey giblets.Nov 26 22:47
DaemonFCI'm cooking our turkey today.Nov 26 22:47
schestowitz-TRhmm..Nov 26 22:47
DaemonFCGrandma always cooked the giblets and gave them to her dog.Nov 26 22:48
techrights-newsImproved Workflows: Achievement Unlocked β€’ Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2021/11/26/achievement-unlocked/ δ·‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/26/achievement-unlocked/Nov 26 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Improved Workflows: Achievement Unlocked | TechrightsNov 26 22:50
schestowitz-TRgive something to the turkeysNov 26 22:51
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Walmart and iBotta dumped Thanksgiving dinner on us.Nov 26 23:11
DaemonFCIt was all free right down to the pie.Nov 26 23:11
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DaemonFCI don't know why.Nov 26 23:14
DaemonFCThe thought of a government conspiracy to keep the turkeys moving despite mass poverty crossed my mind.Nov 26 23:14
DaemonFChttps://thesmartwallet.com/free-thanksgiving-meal-on-ibotta/?articleid=77470Nov 26 23:17
-altlink_591/#techrights-πŸ“£ Cloudflare: thesmartwallet.com | πŸ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thesmartwallet.com/free-thanksgiving-meal-on-ibotta/?articleid=77470Nov 26 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thesmartwallet.com | Get a Free Thanksgiving Meal Through Ibotta | The Smart WalletNov 26 23:17
DaemonFCThis was the first year it didn't sell out right away.Nov 26 23:18
DaemonFCSo either there were more of the offers or less people doing Thanksgiving at all.Nov 26 23:18
schestowitzDaemonFC: I reviewed some gemini gamesNov 26 23:18
schestowitzwrote a couple of paras if you want to have a look with meNov 26 23:18
DaemonFCThere were still free turkeys available even when there were only 4-5 left at the local Walmart.Nov 26 23:18
schestowitzgemini is awesomeNov 26 23:18
DaemonFCStill cooking.Nov 26 23:18
DaemonFCThe pipes are backing up again.Nov 26 23:18
schestowitzGemini isNov 26 23:18
schestowitz(cooking) ;-)Nov 26 23:18
DaemonFCEvery time someone does laundry.Nov 26 23:18
DaemonFCI've been plungering the sink each time to fight the water back down.Nov 26 23:19
DaemonFCTexted the maintenance man. It needs another pipe snaking. Probably actually needs a plumber, but he got it to where it will move again and doesn't back up as bad as it used to.Nov 26 23:20
DaemonFCIt's just, the plumbing here is awful.Nov 26 23:20
DaemonFCWhat does anyone think they could get out of me?Nov 26 23:20
DaemonFCBad plumbing and a 300,000 mile car?Nov 26 23:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: cab you read draft?Nov 26 23:30
schestowitzmight also interest youNov 26 23:30
schestowitztomorrow I need to shut the pipe as it goes below zeroNov 26 23:31
DaemonFCYeah.Nov 26 23:32
DaemonFCI've got a few minutes.Nov 26 23:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/11/26/gemini-protocol-games/Nov 26 23:32
DaemonFCMaking gravy and getting the pie ready to go in.Nov 26 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini as a Platform for Gamers | TechrightsNov 26 23:32
schestowitzwe just ear the usualsNov 26 23:34
schestowitz*eatNov 26 23:34
schestowitztoday was mostly coding and updates etc.Nov 26 23:34
schestowitzhousekeepingNov 26 23:34
DaemonFCGemini needs to grow. Web proxies will deal with the important stuff for the most part.Nov 26 23:34
schestowitz-TRyeahNov 26 23:34
DaemonFCWith any luck, we can reduce the web down to a really shitty way to bank.Nov 26 23:34
schestowitzwe're added tons of good content to itNov 26 23:35
schestowitzinc. lots of crime evidence, e.g. antitrust materialNov 26 23:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: correctionNov 26 23:40
schestowitzyou can do banking in geminiNov 26 23:40
schestowitzsee the gamesNov 26 23:40
schestowitzcertificates make sessionsNov 26 23:41
schestowitzalso, many flitht booking agencies used lesser UIsNov 26 23:41
schestowitzlike entering querying language for the server to interpret and return resultsNov 26 23:41
schestowitzcan you spot typos?Nov 26 23:41
techrights-newsGemini as a Platform for #Gamers β€’ Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2021/11/26/gemini-protocol-games/ δ·‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/26/gemini-protocol-games/Nov 26 23:50
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AdmFubar:PNov 26 23:52
AdmFubaroh you mean in the article... :">Nov 26 23:53
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schestowitzAdmFubar: I found a fewNov 26 23:54

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