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| psydroid | and now Matrix does it better than Discord as you can have all kinds of Spaces | May 29 00:00 |
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| tuks | matrix is doing lots of things right | May 29 00:00 |
| psydroid | public, private and nested spaces | May 29 00:00 |
| alextee[m] | nested? wow | May 29 00:00 |
| psydroid | yes, if I correctly understood what was said in the FOSDEM presentation | May 29 00:01 |
| psydroid | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/matrix_communities/ | May 29 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2021 - Building massive virtual communities in Matrix | May 29 00:02 | |
| tuks | sometimes fragmentation is an issue. good thing is that xmpp, telegram, discord, irc, etc. can be all bridged to a matrix channel | May 29 00:05 |
| *alextee[m] uploaded an image: (369KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/IVtEZkFgMzOfUhEmZtVWeKSF/Screenshot%20from%202021-05-29%2000-05-34.png > | May 29 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | [23:58] <tuks> there is a new fancy feature on matrix called spaces. it's a collection of rooms basically | May 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | I don't mean to sound rude or harsh, but now when I hear "spaces" I walk away | May 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | but the association and connotation would be enough to put me off | May 29 00:06 |
| BaronVladimirHar | And in the corner is Matthew, one of the SJWs who has banned everyone except most of the perverts and the Chromebook kids from Matrix. | May 29 00:07 |
| schestowitz | when they canceled RMS or tried to in 2018 they used the term "safe space" | May 29 00:07 |
| tuks | ok, I see | May 29 00:07 |
| schestowitz | by which they implied that talking to a speaker to correct a speaker was an "unsafe" invasion to a space | May 29 00:07 |
| schestowitz | which is craaazy | May 29 00:07 |
| schestowitz | that's about dialogue style | May 29 00:07 |
| alextee[m] | well software is software | May 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: watch this: | May 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [07:00] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg ☞ #Google Women Suing Over Gender Bias Win #ClassAction Status https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-27/google-women-suing-over-gender-bias-win-class-action-status mjg59 lecturing the #freesw community on these issues while taking salaries from the WORST culprits! http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | May 29 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | May 29 00:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | May 29 00:08 | |
| alextee[m] | as long as it's free doesnt matter who makes it | May 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [07:00] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TheVerge ☞ #Google is now embroiled in a full class-action lawsuit over whether it underpaid women https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/27/22457421/lawsuit-former-google-women-class-action-gender-bias-pay-disparity maybe Google trolls just try to distract from themselves! http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | May 29 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google is now embroiled in a full class-action lawsuit over whether it underpaid women - The Verge | May 29 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | mjg59: go set up a "cancel Google" petition in GitHub | May 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | go after the big ones | May 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | not inidividuals | May 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz | (in GitHub :sniggers:) | May 29 00:09 |
| stormchaser3000 | interrupting a speaker is one thing, but privately correcting a speaker (or even publicly during a Q&A session) should be fine in most circumstances as far as I am concerned | May 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz | esp. from movement founder | May 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | they talk about things associated with what he created when they were just born | May 29 00:10 |
| alextee[m] | just noticed he uses mac in the presentation lol | May 29 00:11 |
| stormchaser3000 | unfortunately, most "Linux" foundation or related people use macbooks for their daily work | May 29 00:12 |
| stormchaser3000 | even Jim Zemlin | May 29 00:12 |
| stormchaser3000 | (I probably spelled his name wrong) | May 29 00:12 |
| MinceR | apparently it is still possible to type up letters to cancel people on a crapBook | May 29 00:12 |
| MinceR | maybe the cupertino mafia will fix that in the next release | May 29 00:12 |
| stormchaser3000 | with how bad the keyboards have been in the past few iterations of the macbook air and pro?? how is that even possible | May 29 00:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA | May 29 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Introduces Revolutionary New Laptop With No Keyboard - YouTube | May 29 00:13 | |
| psydroid | an iCrap? | May 29 00:13 |
| alextee[m] | a year or 2 ago I was really surprised that in the opening talk of FOSDEM (I think?) they were saying that it's ok to use macs and non-free software because it's more convenient sometimes or something | May 29 00:14 |
| alextee[m] | and "you don't have to be purists" | May 29 00:14 |
| alextee[m] | I think it was people from the free software conservancy doing that opening talk | May 29 00:14 |
| alextee[m] | imagine an opening talk at a free software conference being about using proprietary software for convenience | May 29 00:15 |
| psydroid | I remember that, even though I didn't attend that talk | May 29 00:15 |
| psydroid | it takes a few hours for me to arrive in Brussels so I usually missed the early morning talks | May 29 00:16 |
| alextee[m] | I was watching it online | May 29 00:16 |
| psydroid | last year I didn't attend and this year they were all broadcast from people's bedrooms | May 29 00:17 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <MinceR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA | May 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | LOL, classic | May 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | next: cancel the mouse | May 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Onion did that | May 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | it works on telepathy and siri | May 29 00:20 |
| schestowitz | siri, yes, siti | May 29 00:20 |
| schestowitz | *siri | May 29 00:20 |
| *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 29 00:20 | |
| schestowitz | does karen sandler (sfc chief) use gnu linux? | May 29 00:21 |
| alextee[m] | this is appropriate here I guess https://github.com/iTODDLERS-BTFO/iToddlers-BTFO | May 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | I didn't see what device she uses for her talk | May 29 00:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - iTODDLERS-BTFO/iToddlers-BTFO: iToddlers BTFO | May 29 00:21 | |
| schestowitz | but it would be funny if she moaned about proprietary pacemaker while using something not bsd or gnu | May 29 00:22 |
| schestowitz | speaking of fosdem and sfc | May 29 00:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/04/sfc-not-about-freedom/ | May 29 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Not About Freedom | Techrights | May 29 00:22 | |
| schestowitz | tl;dr: they censor IBM critics | May 29 00:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe someone should tell Brad and Karen about Dehomog | May 29 00:22 |
| schestowitz | as they have some Jewish ancestry | May 29 00:23 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/02/08/fosdem-ibm-gag/ | May 29 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FOSDEM and Free Speech: Will It Blend? | Techrights | May 29 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | IRC: SFC threatens to ban people for pointing out IBM does bad things | May 29 00:24 |
| schestowitz | not kidding | May 29 00:24 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/01/04/fosdem-us/ | May 29 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FOSDEM or FOSDEMerica? | Techrights | May 29 00:24 | |
| schestowitz | SFC: European when it suits them | May 29 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I never attended FOSDEM | May 29 00:24 |
| schestowitz | their money from Microsoft and other past things (worse than Novell) were deal breakers | May 29 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I think last year they were careful NOT to accept Google $ | May 29 00:25 |
| psydroid | Dehomag always makes me think of Cro-Mag | May 29 00:25 |
| MinceR | lol @ iToddlers BTFO | May 29 00:26 |
| MinceR | psydroid: kromagg? | May 29 00:26 |
| psydroid | I realised it when I talked to people at the stands, Google was trying to claim souls for itself | May 29 00:27 |
| psydroid | I just grabbed the free stuff and left | May 29 00:27 |
| psydroid | MinceR, I'd never heard of them before | May 29 00:28 |
| MinceR | aliens that had a big part on Sliders jumping the shark | May 29 00:30 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▆▄▅▄▅▃▆▅▆▄▃▂▅▆▂▂▅▂▃▄▆▆▅▅▅▅▃▄▃▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 20.51 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▃▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 18.45▕ swarm size (avg): 232.85 ⟲ | May 29 00:31 |
| MinceR | s/on/in/ | May 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | sliders, lol | May 29 00:32 |
| schestowitz | let's go back to mechanics | May 29 00:32 |
| schestowitz | and phone dials you use with a rotor | May 29 00:32 |
| schestowitz | iRetro | May 29 00:33 |
| schestowitz | I finish work in a bit | May 29 00:33 |
| schestowitz | then I will start posting again | May 29 00:33 |
| BaronVladimirHar | <MinceR "aliens that had a big part on Sl"> The show was completely plagiarized. Only thinly veiled. | May 29 00:34 |
| MinceR | from where? | May 29 00:34 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Some of the episodes were okay though. | May 29 00:34 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I was fond of the one where they had a death lottery and forced people to keep the population low. | May 29 00:35 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The first thing they noticed was how clean everything was, how low the crime rate was, and how the place was 60 years behind Earth Prime on inflation. | May 29 00:35 |
| BaronVladimirHar | 1950s world was pretty stupid though. | May 29 00:36 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The Bureau of Anti-Technology keeping things at the same level as the 50s artificially? | May 29 00:36 |
| BaronVladimirHar | That would cause a disaster. For starters, the Hubbert Curve predicted that 1974 to 1995 would be peak oil, but that got pushed back due to new production techniques and fuel economy. | May 29 00:38 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 00:38 |
| BaronVladimirHar | But in 50s World, there's no indication that the 6 mpg monsters ever went away, even though there was no law keeping the population in check. | May 29 00:38 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Soviet World might be good for XRevan86. | May 29 00:39 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Depending on who he knows, he might even have a cushy job at PT&T. | May 29 00:39 |
| BaronVladimirHar | (People's Telephone & Telegraph) | May 29 00:39 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Colonel Rickman was where they jumped the shark, MinceR. | May 29 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | BaronVladimirHar: Ye mean the Ministry of Communications of the USSR? | May 29 00:42 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I mean, I think it was literally the next episode that was an Island of Dr. Moreau ripoff. | May 29 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, it used to be called the People's Commissariat for Posts and Telegraphs of the USSR | May 29 00:42 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Has anyone ever told you that you suck at naming things? | May 29 00:43 |
| BaronVladimirHar | It's always way too wordy. | May 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | those are translations | May 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | even if "official" | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | US renamed Dept. of War | May 29 00:44 |
| MinceR | :) | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | not it's "Defence" | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | like IDF | May 29 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | aronVladimirHar: Narkompochtel | May 29 00:44 |
| MinceR | Ministry of Truth | May 29 00:44 |
| MinceR | Ministry of Love | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | We have MoD | May 29 00:44 |
| BaronVladimirHar | We don't have wars anymore. | May 29 00:44 |
| BaronVladimirHar | We have defense. | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Ministry of Defence | May 29 00:44 |
| MinceR | Ministry of Plenty | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | they do nukes | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | because nukes are defensive | May 29 00:44 |
| schestowitz | you fire a nuke at the rocket | May 29 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | And in between it was the People's Commissariat for Communications (Narkomsvyaz') | May 29 00:45 |
| MinceR | Ministry of Peace | May 29 00:45 |
| schestowitz | I love peas | May 29 00:45 |
| schestowitz | had some for lunch today | May 29 00:45 |
| schestowitz | rianne_ cooked | May 29 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | or NKS USSR | May 29 00:45 |
| schestowitz | USS Russia | May 29 00:46 |
| schestowitz | the next aircraft carrier | May 29 00:46 |
| schestowitz | to be based near the north pole | May 29 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | BaronVladimirHar: Ye do realise that things like Foreign Claims Settlement Commission of the US are just as wordy? | May 29 00:46 |
| schestowitz | UNESCO | May 29 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | If an ancronym has two syllables, ye know it has to be good. | May 29 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | acronym | May 29 00:48 |
| MinceR | unesco has three :> | May 29 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, right, three :) | May 29 00:48 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: the names matter less | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | except for humour's purpose | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | many things are named for PR reasons | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | or perception management | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | it's what they actually do that counts | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | OSI is acting like a hate grou | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | as if the initiative is not "let's destory Free software" | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | maybe they forgot it's proprietary software they were meant to replace | May 29 00:52 |
| schestowitz | instead they help outsourcing to MS GitHub | May 29 00:53 |
| schestowitz | maybe we should make up a new name for OSI | May 29 00:53 |
| schestowitz | or new acronym expansion for fun | May 29 00:53 |
| schestowitz | OpenwaShIng | May 29 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Outsourcing ShitHub Integration | May 29 00:54 |
| psydroid | Outreachy Student Institute | May 29 00:56 |
| schestowitz | just moments ago: | May 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Bully de Blanc: Friends of GNOME Update – May 2021 | May 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | ttps://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2021/05/28/friends-of-gnome-update-may-2021/ | May 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | there is a part there about Outreachy | May 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Reaching out to monopolies for money | May 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | and strings | May 29 00:57 |
| techrights-bot | #GodotEngine https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/the-visually-striking-action-adventure-resolutiion-gets-another-big-upgrade | May 29 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The visually striking action-adventure Resolutiion gets another big upgrade | GamingOnLinux | May 29 00:59 | |
| techrights-bot | #japan https://hugelolcdn.com/i/746878.jpg | May 29 01:00 |
| techrights-bot | #openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/21 http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/05/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-21/ | May 29 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/21 – Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) | May 29 01:00 | |
| techrights-bot | Firefox to adopt Chrome's new approach to extensions – sans the part that threatens ad blockers https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/28/mozilla_chrome_mozilla/ | May 29 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Firefox to adopt Chrome's new approach to extensions – sans the part that threatens ad blockers • The Register | May 29 01:01 | |
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| techrights-bot | Mike Taylor: The hidden meaning of 537.36 in the Chromium User-Agent string https://miketaylr.com/posts/2021/05/webkit-537-36-meaning.html | May 29 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-miketaylr.com | The hidden meaning of 537.36 in the Chromium User-Agent string | May 29 01:02 | |
| techrights-bot | #Mozilla and #Firefox Latest • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151714 #www | May 29 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla and Firefox Latest | Tux Machines | May 29 01:04 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151713 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 29 01:05 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | schestowitz: Brave made some improvements to the ad blocker recently. | May 29 01:05 |
| techrights-bot | Why Use #GeminiProtocol (Plus a #Techrights Mention) http://techrights.org/2021/05/28/dt-gemini/ #internet #GeminiSpace | May 29 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Use Gemini (Plus a Techrights Mention) | Techrights | May 29 01:05 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | It supports the csp rules in filters like EasyList now. | May 29 01:06 |
| schestowitz | what are those csp rules? | May 29 01:06 |
| schestowitz | use rss and gemini | May 29 01:06 |
| schestowitz | it would mostly make ads go away | May 29 01:06 |
| schestowitz | uorigin in firefox can also help a bit | May 29 01:06 |
| techrights-bot | 7 of the Best Add-ons for #Firefox on #Android https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-firefox-add-ons-for-android/ | May 29 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 7 of the Best Add-ons for Firefox on Android - Make Tech Easier | May 29 01:07 | |
| techrights-bot | Peace of mind browser add-ons for #Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/peace-of-mind-browser-add-ons-for-firefox/ #mozilla #www | May 29 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Peace of mind browser add-ons for Firefox | May 29 01:07 | |
| techrights-bot | Vegetarian loves meat https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1398182157198118912?s=21 | May 29 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stautistic: Microsoft stans will dead ass tell you that “Microsoft loves open source!” while all of their software is still proprietary 🤣 | May 29 01:07 | |
| techrights-bot | THIS (new): "The problem is most people are trying to use blockchain when a regular database would work just as well. There's very few good business cases for a true blockchain solution, although the ones that are good, are really good. Everyone (not just IBM) has bet way too much on blockchain without enough understanding of what it can be used for." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b49iXRX#replies | May 29 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The exodus continues - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 01:09 | |
| techrights-bot | (new) #ibm Unpaid Leave https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4km7eR#replies | May 29 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Unpaid Leave - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 01:09 | |
| techrights-bot | Checking out #Kubuntu 21.04: Full Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Hw7tVbhEk #kde #gnu #linux | May 29 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Checking out Kubuntu 21.04: Full Review - YouTube | May 29 01:10 | |
| techrights-bot | #Virtuozzo ’s #VzLinux 8 Released, Positioned as a #CentOS 8 Replacement https://linuxiac.com/vzlinux-8-centos-8-replacement/ #ibm doesn't 'get' how #gpl works, does it? So instead it attacks the GPL now (RMS, FSF etc.) | May 29 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Virtuozzo’s VzLinux 8 Released, Positioned as a CentOS 8 Replacement | May 29 01:10 | |
| techrights-bot | #redhat is still #openwashing itself, hoping you won't notice that that company is controlled by #ibm tyrants https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/guidebook-open-source-community-management-open-source-way-20 | May 29 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Guidebook for open source community management: The Open Source Way 2.0 | May 29 01:10 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Static-filter-syntax#csp | May 29 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Static filter syntax · gorhill/uBlock Wiki · GitHub | May 29 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | they use Microsoft? | May 29 01:11 |
| BaronVladimirHar | https://kb.adguard.com/en/general/how-to-create-your-own-ad-filters#csp-modifier | May 29 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kb.adguard.com | How to create your own ad filters | AdGuard Knowledgebase | May 29 01:12 | |
| schestowitz | maybe they will get blocked one day | May 29 01:12 |
| BaronVladimirHar | <schestowitz "maybe they will get blocked one "> Hah | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft will say ad-blocking is "dangerous" or "illegal" or something | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | like reverse-engineering | May 29 01:12 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Good thing Brave Adblock is in the browser. | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | isn't brave in shithub? | May 29 01:12 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Of course, Brave uses GitHub too. | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | maybe was | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | ah, still | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | lol | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | shite | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | also based on OSPS | May 29 01:12 |
| schestowitz | chrom'ium' | May 29 01:13 |
| schestowitz | that does not help tackle the biggest issues | May 29 01:13 |
| schestowitz | I am going to work on our gemini capsule in a moment | May 29 01:13 |
| schestowitz | we need to put more labour into that... | May 29 01:13 |
| techrights-bot | Not much happening in #fedora 'community' anymore (as #ibm destroyed the credibility of claims that it's community) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-21/ | May 29 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-21 – Fedora Community Blog | May 29 01:13 | |
| techrights-bot | (new) People who are collecting badges https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies wrong goals, wrong approach. Goalposts move. | May 29 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 01:14 | |
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| BaronVladimirHar | MinceR: WGN Chicago reported on Amazon buying MGM and acquiring some things, but I said "You forgot Stargate." and included the GIF of Teal'c chugging coffee. O'Neill: "Isn't that hot?" Teal'c: "Extremely.". | May 29 01:14 |
| techrights-bot | (new) "We know #IBM is restructuring and they've set money aside for it. But when are the layoffs going to happen?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aWJp96w#replies maybe they changed the date to discredit the rumours (happens sometimes) | May 29 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | So what's going on? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 01:14 | |
| schestowitz | MGM is cheap now | May 29 01:15 |
| schestowitz | that industry is collapsing | May 29 01:15 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Urgo didn't really want to hurt anyone, so he had Teal'c do it. | May 29 01:15 |
| schestowitz | it was always a bubble | May 29 01:15 |
| BaronVladimirHar | He's a Jaffa so if he burned his mouth, the Goa'uld would heal it quickly. | May 29 01:15 |
| techrights-bot | (new) "It might be 6 figures if you count those after the decimal point! I've been getting 21K/yr for the past 25 years (which is more than my cumulative salary for the years I worked there)!" #ibm #pension https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies | May 29 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 01:15 | |
| schestowitz | US is like collapsing Soviet Union. USSA now... | May 29 01:15 |
| schestowitz | the oligarchs buying off everything on the cheap | May 29 01:16 |
| schestowitz | iirc, bezos turns malls and stuff into warehouses | May 29 01:16 |
| BaronVladimirHar | MGM has been around for like forever. | May 29 01:16 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Massive back catalog. | May 29 01:16 |
| schestowitz | because who needs shops anyway.. | May 29 01:16 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: well, the roaring tiger is toothless now | May 29 01:16 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▆▆▁▄▅▇▆▆▃▃▄▅▄▃▅▄▃▄▅▃▆▂▃▄▅▃▃▆▆▄▆▁ avg(k/sec) 23.56 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▃▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 6.00▕ swarm size (avg): 232.92 ⟲ | May 29 01:16 |
| schestowitz | the ugly guy doesn't know what to do with his money | May 29 01:17 |
| schestowitz | [10:30] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #theft #grifting #bezos ☞ #Sanders Says No Way to $10 Billion Taxpayer Handout to Bezos' Space Company https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-says-no-way-to-10-billion-taxpayer-handout-to-bezos-space-company/ | May 29 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Sanders Says No Way to $10 Billion Taxpayer Handout to Bezos' Space Company | May 29 01:17 | |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #grifting #militarism ☞ 'Appalling': #Biden State Department Quietly Grants #Boeing an Export License for $735 Million Bomb Sale to Israel https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/26/appalling-biden-state-department-quietly-grants-boeing-export-license-735-million | May 29 01:17 |
| schestowitz | USSA | May 29 01:17 |
| schestowitz | Like i said.... | May 29 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Appalling': Biden State Department Quietly Grants Boeing an Export License for $735 Million Bomb Sale to Israel | Common Dreams News | May 29 01:17 | |
| techrights-bot | More road #surveillance sold as a 'features' (whose?) https://www.iottechtrends.com/smart-traffic-lights-make-roads-responsive/ | May 29 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | Smart Traffic Lights Make the Roads Responsive to User Needs - IoT Tech Trends | May 29 01:18 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | I don't know why anyone cares about "Palestinians". | May 29 01:18 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Go over there and ask how they feel about gays, transsexuals, and women. | May 29 01:18 |
| MinceR | BaronVladimirHar: :) | May 29 01:18 |
| schestowitz | THERE IS reason to care | May 29 01:18 |
| schestowitz | but some media treats only that area like it matters | May 29 01:18 |
| schestowitz | ignoring myanmar, colombia etc. | May 29 01:19 |
| schestowitz | as if Israel as another Russia | May 29 01:19 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They elect Hamas, Hamas launches rockets and hides behind women and children. | May 29 01:19 |
| schestowitz | even after ceasefire | May 29 01:20 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The cycle goes on. So many people on "the left" are so stupid that they don't see exactly what's happening here. | May 29 01:20 |
| schestowitz | news is slow, so... | May 29 01:20 |
| schestowitz | I wrote a ton about it when tit-for-tat starte | May 29 01:20 |
| schestowitz | then it just felt like hate campaign on both sides and I lost interest | May 29 01:20 |
| schestowitz | If Russia bombed Georgia like this, the media would barely care | May 29 01:20 |
| BaronVladimirHar | That's exactly what it is. | May 29 01:20 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The US gives Israel money, Israel buys weapons from us. Military Keynesians and we let Israel take all the blame for killing Arabs. | May 29 01:21 |
| techrights-bot | 6,000 GPUs: Perlmutter to Deliver 4 #Exaflops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151686#comment-29784 | May 29 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Preparing More Linux Code For The Frontier Supercomputer | Tux Machines | May 29 01:21 | |
| techrights-bot | A new video that explains the use of #GeminiProtocol (and #Techrights mentioned towards the end) http://techrights.org/2021/05/28/dt-gemini/ #internet | May 29 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Use Gemini (Plus a Techrights Mention) | Techrights | May 29 01:21 | |
| techrights-bot | #qytdl – #Qt frontend for #YoutubeDL • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151715 #GNU #Linux | May 29 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | qytdl – Qt frontend for Youtube-DL | Tux Machines | May 29 01:21 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | There's a lot of reporting about the exchanges but not the fact that the US gives Israel all of the weapons and bombs. | May 29 01:22 |
| schestowitz | Israel makes some of its own too | May 29 01:22 |
| schestowitz | it's a war country | May 29 01:22 |
| schestowitz | 'security' | May 29 01:22 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The Iron Dome system keeps them almost 100% safe from those rockets, no matter how many get fired, and then they retaliate and there's really nothing protecting the Palestinian side, but Hamas doesn't care. | May 29 01:22 |
| BaronVladimirHar | If it did care about those people that elected it, it would stop the rocket attacks and maybe let them get some sort of sympathy. | May 29 01:23 |
| schestowitz | anyway, back on topic... | May 29 01:23 |
| schestowitz | this is -social channel stuff | May 29 01:23 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The technology keeps it totally lopsided. | May 29 01:23 |
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| BaronVladimirHar | The Palestinians kill like 6 or 7 Israelis, the Israelis kill about 2,000-3,000 in return. | May 29 01:24 |
| scientes | XRevan86, my home town would have occasional chlorine gas leaks from the pump plant | May 29 01:24 |
| BaronVladimirHar | It's not like Hamas could keep waging a military campaign and accepting losses at that ratio. | May 29 01:24 |
| techrights-bot | Overinflating severity and risk. You need to install malware or be compromised already. https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/researchers-warn-of-facefish-backdoor.html | May 29 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Researchers Warn of Facefish Backdoor Spreading Linux Rootkits | May 29 01:25 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | It's terrorism, and it's not working. | May 29 01:25 |
| scientes | *pulp | May 29 01:26 |
| techrights-bot | If it is malware, who cares about performance? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Chrome-91-Benchmarks | May 29 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chrome 91 Benchmarks On Linux Showing Off Even Better Performance - Phoronix | May 29 01:26 | |
| techrights-bot | Raphaël Hertzog: Freexian’s report about Debian Long Term Support, April 2021 https://raphaelhertzog.com/2021/05/28/freexians-report-about-debian-long-term-support-april-2021/ #freexian #debian #gnu #linux #security | May 29 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raphaelhertzog.com | Freexian’s report about Debian Long Term Support, April 2021 | May 29 01:27 | |
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| techrights-bot | #OpenZFS 2.1-rc6 Released - Will Now Scale Worker Threads With CPU Core Count - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenZFS-2.1-rc6-Released ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux #deletegithub | May 29 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenZFS 2.1-rc6 Released - Will Now Scale Worker Threads With CPU Core Count - Phoronix | May 29 01:35 | |
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| techrights-bot | AMD Ryzen 5 5500U - #vista10 vs. #Ubuntu 21.04 #GNU #Linux Benchmarks https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=5500u-windows10-ubuntu&num=1 | May 29 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Ryzen 5 5500U - Windows 10 vs. Ubuntu 21.04 Linux Benchmarks Review - Phoronix | May 29 01:36 | |
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| techrights-bot | "Core #libcurl functionality can be powered by optional and alternative backends in a way that doesn’t change the API or directly affect the application." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/05/28/taking-hyper-curl-further/ #curl #deletegithub | May 29 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Taking hyper-curl further | daniel.haxx.se | May 29 01:38 | |
| techrights-bot | "The #Librem14 packs all the power and software needed to create professional videos." https://puri.sm/posts/quick-intro-to-video-editing-with-the-librem-14/ #pureos #debian #gnu #linux | May 29 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Quick Intro to Video Editing with the Librem 14 – Purism | May 29 01:42 | |
| techrights-bot | Which Is the Best #GNULinux OS: #Fedora or Ubuntu? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151716 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which Is the Best Linux OS: Fedora or Ubuntu? | Tux Machines | May 29 01:43 | |
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| techrights-bot | Full Circle Magazine #169 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/2021/05/28/full-circle-magazine-169/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux | May 29 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Magazine #169 | Full Circle Magazine | May 29 01:44 | |
| techrights-bot | Launchpad News: Comment editing is now possible https://blog.launchpad.net/general/comment-editing-is-now-possible so they are already ahead of Twitter ^_^ | May 29 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.launchpad.net | Launchpad Blog | May 29 01:44 | |
| techrights-bot | This project needs to #deletegithub http://ifdeflinux.blogspot.com/2021/05/rout-is-out.html http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | May 29 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ifdeflinux.blogspot.com | rout is out | May 29 01:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | May 29 01:46 | |
| techrights-bot | #RaspberryPi OS 2021-05-28 is out. Have they delinked it from the #microsoft #malware (which gave Microsoft root access to the whole OS)? https://www.raspberrypi.org/ | May 29 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Teach, Learn, and Make with Raspberry Pi | May 29 01:47 | |
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| techrights-bot | "The #Kdenlive Café’s will be on the second Tuesday of every month always starting at 9PM (Paris time). So the June Café will be on the 8th." https://kdenlive.org/en/2021/05/next-cafe-and-upcoming-events/ #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | May 29 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org | Next Café and upcoming events | Kdenlive | May 29 01:49 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622221611457#c4026429174281436652 | May 29 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat | May 29 01:53 | |
| schestowitz | "In my mind, it also marks the end of the days where rules had to be obeyed (at least for the EBoA). The EBoA discussed and refused request 1 (postponement of the Oral Proceedings) in non-public consultations only with the Appellant when there was no justification to exclude the public on this point, and granted request 2 (Oral Proceedings to discuss Art. 24 EPC) without obeying Rule 115 EPC. And what about the approach that serving | May 29 01:53 |
| schestowitz | documents to parties and clause 2 of Art. 9 RPEBOA are not so important? Only in the last moment the EBoA "gracefully" granted (less than) one month for the Appellant to submit his observations. Surely, Art. 10 RPEBOA provides that third parties' observations (and amicus curiae submissions) "may be dealt with as the Board thinks fit". This Board obviously thinks it fit to put them on an USB stick and then directly throw them in the bin | May 29 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Which patent attorney right in his mind would put in his or her computer an USB stick that had been sent to him by mail? I hope none." | May 29 01:53 |
| techrights-bot | This new comment is gold. #epo killed its tribunals. Nobody will take them seriously anymore. The EPO needs to be scrapped and redone at this stage. Mission failed, regime killed any remnants of legality. Start again. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622221611457#c4026429174281436652 | May 29 01:54 |
| techrights-bot | We should all be thankful to #Texas for showing what a farce the US #patent system has become, including the courts (when Texan judges refuse to obey the law) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/escape-western-district.html | May 29 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | No Escape from the Western District of Texas | Patently-O | May 29 01:55 | |
| techrights-bot | Video about #patentTrolls with #ibm #microsoft et al proxies in there (e.g. #LOTNetwork -- a #swpats booster) https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/5/28/webinar-materials-how-times-have-changed-adaptations-in-npe-litigations http://techrights.org/2018/10/10/lotnetwork-msft-and-now-oin/ | May 29 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Webinar Materials - How Times Have Changed: Adaptations in NPE Litigations — Unified Patents | May 29 01:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Invention Network is a Proponent of Software Patents — Just Like Microsoft — and Microsoft Keeps Patents It Uses to Blackmail Linux Vendors | Techrights | May 29 01:57 | |
| techrights-bot | "The Bombay High Court addressed the question of whether the pre-grant representation could be filed while the decision of the Controller of Patents to reject a patent application is on appeal before the IPAB." https://www.mondaq.com/india/patent/1074534/can-pre-grant-opposition-be-filed-while-the-decision-of-the-controller-is-on-appeal-before-the-ipab | May 29 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Can Pre-Grant Opposition Be Filed While The Decision Of The Controller Is On Appeal Before The IPAB? - Intellectual Property - India | May 29 01:58 | |
| techrights-bot | This is BS reframing to bypass #patent #law and make up some psuedo-scientific crap:" "Utility Model protection may still be an attractive option for those having a technical solution being somehow obvious over the available prior art." https://www.mondaq.com/turkey/patent/1071730/no-contribution-to-the-invention-no-utility-model-protection | May 29 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | No Contribution To The Invention, No Utility Model Protection - Intellectual Property - Turkey | May 29 02:01 | |
| techrights-bot | #Zynq UltraScale+ modules include high-end Andromeda model • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151717 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zynq UltraScale+ modules include high-end Andromeda model | Tux Machines | May 29 02:01 | |
| techrights-bot | "a patent monetization company" = #patentTroll with #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/5/28/another-pacsec3-patent-challenged #PacSec3 | May 29 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Another PacSec3 patent challenged — Unified Patents | May 29 02:03 | |
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| techrights-bot | "Yes, I agree… you just have to look at LinkedIn to see these people reporting their super learner status… this is pathetic, but hey then you can’t wonder why IBM is in the ho-e!!" #ibm #microsoft #lol https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 02:05 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm is collapsing https://www.ledgerinsights.com/ibm-blockchain-cto-departs-with-two-key-hyperledger-fabric-developers/ | May 29 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ledgerinsights.com | IBM Blockchain CTO departs with two key Fabric developers - Ledger Insights - enterprise blockchain | May 29 02:06 | |
| techrights-bot | Minutes ago re #ibm : "The various Hursley development teams are losing people every day. Most of the Event Streams team is gone, the MQ team is looking for 5 new team leads. This is pathetic…" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b49iXRX#replies | May 29 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The exodus continues - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 02:07 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm UNPAID leave: "Ask your manager to submit LOA (Leave of Absence) if they agree to provide you with extended unpaid leave. Another option would be contact your HR partner. Do a search in w3 for HR bot and request for HR partner contact details." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4km7eR#replies | May 29 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Unpaid Leave - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 02:08 | |
| techrights-bot | "The ones with the 'Super Learner' status need to be fired asap! It clearly tells you they had 250+ hours of spare time twiddling their thumbs to spend time on 'learning' VS. actually doing something that helps the company make tangible $$." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 02:09 |
| techrights-bot | "Apparently they don't know the difference between contracting and consulting and missed the last quarterly report..." #ibm cooking the books. AKA "creative accounting"... https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b49iXRX#replies | May 29 02:10 |
| techrights-bot | #techrights to release internal #epo material shortly... | May 29 02:11 |
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| stormchaser3000 | I don't know if this is a bit sacreligious, but I am using an old Microsoft PS/2 ergonomic keyboard with my Raspberry Pi 4... | May 29 02:14 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 02:15 |
| MinceR | does that keyboard also have USB client capability? | May 29 02:15 |
| stormchaser3000 | perhapse it constitutes some form of heresy or blasphemy | May 29 02:15 |
| stormchaser3000 | also, nope | May 29 02:15 |
| stormchaser3000 | I am using a PS/2 to USB adapter | May 29 02:15 |
| MinceR | so an active adapter? | May 29 02:16 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▄▄▄▅▂▅▅▄▅▅▃▅▃▂▃▅▃▆▄▅▆▃▄▂▃▄▅▂▅▃▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 20.20 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▃▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 13.33▕ swarm size (avg): 232.99 ⟲ | May 29 02:17 |
| stormchaser3000 | I do believe so | May 29 02:18 |
| stormchaser3000 | it has a little thing that looks like it contains a chipset in the middle of the cord | May 29 02:19 |
| MinceR | interesting | May 29 02:19 |
| techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151718 #GNU #Linux | May 29 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 29 02:19 | |
| cybrNaut | ps/2 is better.. more secure | May 29 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Microsodr does not make keyboards | May 29 02:19 |
| schestowitz | it brands soem | May 29 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I still have some ps/2 keyboards around | May 29 02:20 |
| schestowitz | with slight defects | May 29 02:20 |
| MinceR | PS/2 has its downsides | May 29 02:20 |
| schestowitz | and USB adapter for them | May 29 02:20 |
| schestowitz | OS/2 does too | May 29 02:20 |
| schestowitz | :-D | May 29 02:20 |
| MinceR | no safe hotplugging, no hubs, difficult to extend, tricky to switch between hosts | May 29 02:20 |
| stormchaser3000 | true... Microsoft did outsource the making of this keyboard | May 29 02:21 |
| stormchaser3000 | then just slapped their branding onit | May 29 02:21 |
| stormchaser3000 | on it* | May 29 02:21 |
| stormchaser3000 | MinceR: true, but I am a strange person XD | May 29 02:21 |
| cybrNaut | i have KVM switches that take ps/2 inputs.. no issue switching | May 29 02:21 |
| cybrNaut | old keyboards are useful because the J & F keys are keyed the same as the other keys. modern keyboards fuck that up, making the J & F unmoveable | May 29 02:23 |
| MinceR | i had a cheap d-link kvm switch, but it couldn't handle most of my keyboards or mice | May 29 02:23 |
| MinceR | now i have an aten usb peripheral sharing device and it works fine with all of them | May 29 02:23 |
| cybrNaut | i suppose it's possible that ps/2 KVMs send a dummy signal to the computer, so it always detects a ps/2. I seem to recall issues attaching a ps/2 late in the bootup, yet kvm had no issue | May 29 02:26 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I don't think that the Talking Heads and Johnny Cash are big in the Philippines. | May 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: hungarian letter http://techrights.org/2021/05/28/epo-campinos-is-finished/ | May 29 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President Campinos is Finished (EPO Crisis Afoot) | Techrights | May 29 02:34 | |
| schestowitz | can you spot typos? | May 29 02:34 |
| MinceR | none in the hungarian letter :> | May 29 02:35 |
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| MinceR | COVID-19 would be more correct than just COVID | May 29 02:37 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: corrected | May 29 02:38 |
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| MinceR | i didn't find anything else | May 29 02:41 |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-05-28.txt | May 29 02:41 |
| techrights-bot | President #Campinos is Finished ( #EPO Crisis Afoot) http://techrights.org/2021/05/28/epo-campinos-is-finished/ #europe #patents #corruption | May 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for checking | May 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | managed to make it before the cutoff point for the bulletin | May 29 02:43 |
| MinceR | np | May 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | so it's in it now | May 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | I'll do some gemini work shortly | May 29 02:44 |
| schestowitz | [12:25] <schestowitz> Techrights-sec2: In gemini I've noticed that under Bulletins from Techrights (Plain Text) is shows only ones for this year. Should I add a page to the template for past years too? | May 29 02:45 |
| schestowitz | [12:56] <schestowitz> if this is similar to what we have set up for "older archives" (blog posts, monthly archives) which are generated on the fly, then maybe code can be reused... to avoid doing any of this manually | May 29 02:45 |
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| schestowitz | articles done for today, will resume 6am | May 29 02:45 |
| techrights-bot | #epo wiki getting 2,000-4,000 views per day lately. #techrights did some exclusive coverage on issues like EPO scandals lately, and the media is asleep, pretending not to see very obvious #corruption in #europe | May 29 02:46 |
| techrights-bot | "Professional journalist" [n.]: A person with history or English degree, employed by media tycoon or press-owning oligarchs to pretend not to see major scandals and instead distract the public with partisan politics and lesser issues | May 29 02:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://www.freeimages.com/photo/hungarian-letter-1422249 | May 29 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free Hungarian Letter Stock Photo - FreeImages.com | May 29 02:50 | |
| schestowitz | it also used to be an Hungarian site | May 29 02:51 |
| schestowitz | before merging within FreeImages | May 29 02:51 |
| techrights-bot | "Maybe once the web browser titans have beaten down that door we can revisit. Part of the joy of Gemini is that you don't need a ton of libraries to do it right, and I'd like to keep that." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006591.html | May 29 02:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Tech] QUIC transport protocol is now a standard | May 29 02:52 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | COVID hardly needs to be distinguished anymore. It's just COVID. | May 29 02:52 |
| BaronVladimirHar | COVID-20, COVID-21....COVID-22. | May 29 02:52 |
| schestowitz | maybe I could put that in quotes | May 29 02:52 |
| schestowitz | "COVID" | May 29 02:52 |
| MinceR | any disease caused by a coronavirus would be COVID | May 29 02:52 |
| schestowitz | they just say "COVID" | May 29 02:52 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Wake me up when September ends. I mean, fuck. | May 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | perfect excuse | May 29 02:53 |
| MinceR | including some cases of the common cold | May 29 02:53 |
| MinceR | COVID-19 is caused by SARS-CoV-2 | May 29 02:53 |
| MinceR | they should have called it "SARS2", but they didn't | May 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: 4,200 new cases in the UK today | May 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | it's rising quite fast week-to-week | May 29 02:53 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Mandy's actual test, the lab one, came back. Negative. | May 29 02:53 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Thank god for that at least. | May 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | those who got the jab think they're invulnerable now | May 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | false sense of safety | May 29 02:53 |
| BaronVladimirHar | On top of not wanting him to, uh, die. We can't afford the bombardment shitstorm of American medical bills. | May 29 02:54 |
| BaronVladimirHar | <schestowitz "those who got the jab think they"> It's just better than nothing. | May 29 02:54 |
| BaronVladimirHar | A lot better than nothing, but no you're not ten feet tall and shitting bullets after the COVID shot. | May 29 02:54 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They hype it up. | May 29 02:54 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I did recommend Brave to the shop manager over at the Car-X. | May 29 02:57 |
| BaronVladimirHar | It's not perfect but it's not the craziest browser out there. | May 29 02:57 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Brave's new Chromium 91 based release easily drops memory consumption by over 20%. | May 29 02:57 |
| BaronVladimirHar | It actually uses less than Edge now it seems. | May 29 02:58 |
| BaronVladimirHar | As far as who gets best speed, battery life, and RAM usage, it's shifting. | May 29 02:58 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I mean, the differences will be smaller because most browsers are Chromium-based now, but they're all attacking problems a bit differently. | May 29 02:59 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Google had some algorithm for memory management that does just as well as Microsoft's new Segment Heap using the regular NT Heap, while avoiding the performance drag. | May 29 03:00 |
| BaronVladimirHar | So the Segment Heap may actually not end up being a widely used Windows feature. | May 29 03:00 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Microsoft tried burying it inside the OS to announce that Edge had the best memory consumption and then Google came up with a way to use the "legacy" heap better. | May 29 03:00 |
| techrights-bot | "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now has 6,721 signatures. #microsoft #ibm #google #FailedCoup #FSF | May 29 03:01 |
| BaronVladimirHar | You know, it's going to be tempting for Microsoft to quietly abandon this if it starts showing up that Chrome uses about the same memory and is faster. | May 29 03:01 |
| BaronVladimirHar | That's how so many things in Microsoft and Windows are. | May 29 03:02 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They get introduced, without any long term thinking, figuring they'll blog about it, then it just dies and it's...there now. | May 29 03:02 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They no longer support older versions of .Net dating back into XP and Vista, they're not installed, but you can install them from the WIM image that's in the recovery partition. | May 29 03:03 |
| techrights-ipfs | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 136194 total • Total pages: 35709 • Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-03-26 00:17:05 GMT; 2 months 3 days ago | May 29 03:04 |
| techrights-ipfs | ☞ IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.0 GB • TotalOut: 556 MB | May 29 03:04 |
| techrights-ipfs | ☞ New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID | May 29 03:04 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I honestly don't know if they're going to get rid of IE along with the option of installing it and then remove it from the WIM, but it would make sense to. | May 29 03:04 |
| techrights-ipfs | QmdstDNgn7t1pwgpTgwANxCdPkxFt7LNkHoqxcezneLZ4X | May 29 03:06 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I might blog tomorrow about Brave's new release. | May 29 03:06 |
| BaronVladimirHar | It's a big and noteworthy release for a lot of reasons. One of them is they've totally removed all of FloC. | May 29 03:08 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: | May 29 03:08 |
| schestowitz | [10:20] <techrights-bot> IME, many of the #covid19 "spreaders" aren't the ones who wait before getting jabs (and often choose to isolate themselves from people instead) but those who rush to get jabs and then (wrongly) assume themselves to be invincible, in turn spreading the thing everywhere... | May 29 03:08 |
| BaronVladimirHar | We both have something right now, but it's 100% definitely not COVID. | May 29 03:09 |
| schestowitz | don't suppose the jab contributed to it | May 29 03:10 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Regardless, I'm wearing a medical grade mask when I'm outside again until I'm feeling better. | May 29 03:10 |
| schestowitz | the viagracompany one | May 29 03:10 |
| BaronVladimirHar | That was months ago. | May 29 03:10 |
| schestowitz | but like I said, time will tell what's going on | May 29 03:10 |
| schestowitz | for now we self-isolate (almost) all the time | May 29 03:10 |
| schestowitz | or maybe your husband passed it to you | May 29 03:10 |
| schestowitz | anyway | May 29 03:10 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaqd9f5K1vI | May 29 03:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-【Research】CONSOOMING Content To Create Content - YouTube | May 29 03:11 | |
| techrights-bot | Haha. How to give #microsoft control over your machine even if you don't use Windows... https://www.maketecheasier.com/convert-legacy-bios-uefi-windows10/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI what a scam... | May 29 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Convert Legacy BIOS to UEFI in Windows 10 - Make Tech Easier | May 29 03:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - Techrights | May 29 03:12 | |
| techrights-bot | #HowTo Use Git Alias to Make Git More Efficient - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-use-git-alias/ ䷉ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/29/#latest | May 29 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Use Git Alias to Make Git More Efficient - Make Tech Easier | May 29 03:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 29 03:13 | |
| techrights-bot | For those of us who grew up doing SVN and CVS using #git is really straightforward, manuals only needed for more advanced use cases like branching and searching | May 29 03:14 |
| techrights-bot | I'm starting to think that protests and even riots will do more toward racial justice than racist #ibm telling us that a branch called "master" ought to be renamed... | May 29 03:15 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I suppose for folks who have a shitty Mac that won't let them run bittorrent applications, Brave might be an option. | May 29 03:16 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They have a built in "Webtorrent" program. | May 29 03:17 |
| techrights-bot | #freenode lost about 10% of its channels this month, but that's hardly doom https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-year-uc.png | May 29 03:17 |
| BaronVladimirHar | "While torrent downloading in a browser isn’t completely new (Opera has a similar feature, for example) Brave also supports torrent streaming. " | May 29 03:18 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Wrong. Opera with Presto had a torrent program built-in. | May 29 03:18 |
| BaronVladimirHar | But that hasn't been supported in years. | May 29 03:18 |
| techrights-bot | Earlier this year #freenode had almost 100,000 users online. #irc is far from irrelevant, esp. in #freesw communities. | May 29 03:18 |
| BaronVladimirHar | In fact, they bumped the 12.x branch one last time on Windows because they still had users on XP that couldn't run anything newer. | May 29 03:18 |
| BaronVladimirHar | So a few years after switching to Chromium, they bumped 12.x on Windows to support newer encryption standards and patch some CVEs. | May 29 03:19 |
| BaronVladimirHar | But they warned it would be the last time. | May 29 03:19 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▃▄▅▅▄▃▆▄▆▄▄▅▅▆▃▅▅▃▅▅▄▅▁▂█▅▄▅▂▃▅▅▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 35.78 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▃▃▂▂▁█▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 7.70▕ swarm size (avg): 233.06 ⟲ | May 29 03:19 |
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| BaronVladimirHar | I stayed on the leaked Winamp 2.95 for many years. | May 29 03:21 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Even well into Windows 7. | May 29 03:21 |
| techrights-bot | #RaspberryPi OS Updated With Faster OpenSSH, Software Upgrades • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151719 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Debian | May 29 03:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi OS Updated With Faster OpenSSH, Software Upgrades | Tux Machines | May 29 03:24 | |
| techrights-bot | Top 6 MP3 Players for #GNULinux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151720 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 03:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 6 MP3 Players for Linux | Tux Machines | May 29 03:24 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | How timely. | May 29 03:26 |
| MinceR | :) | May 29 03:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I think a lot of people still use Winamp 2.95 because it's really the opposite of modern. | May 29 03:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Even in the default state, it fixed most of the big problems of the 2 series, but that goes into the late 90s. | May 29 03:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They didn't even mean to release it. When users started going after it and ignoring WInamp3, they weren't happy. | May 29 03:28 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: yes, sheer coincidence in timing | May 29 03:28 |
| schestowitz | the mp3 thing | May 29 03:28 |
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| techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | May 29 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | May 29 04:10 | |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, May 28, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | May 29 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | May 29 04:10 | |
| techrights-bot | Made some notable improvements to our gemini capsule and the code behind it, committed to git (self-hosted), now backing up this whole machine over rsync/ssh. We'll have some changes announced soon. | May 29 04:14 |
| techrights-bot | #Benchmarks on AMD #Ryzen and Chrome 91 Benchmarks on GNU/Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151722 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 04:17 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▅▇▃▄▁▂▄▂▅▃▆▆▃▅▅▄▃▆▇▆▅▄▆▃▆▅▄▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 21.35 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▂▂▁▁▁▁▂█▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 32.18▕ swarm size (avg): 233.12 ⟲ | May 29 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarks on AMD Ryzen and Chrome 91 Benchmarks on GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | May 29 04:17 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151721 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 29 04:18 | |
| MinceR | libera.chat has address 185.199.109.153 | May 29 04:25 |
| MinceR | 153.109.199.185.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer cdn-185-199-109-153.github.com. | May 29 04:25 |
| MinceR | curious :> | May 29 04:25 |
| MinceR | (similarly for the other 2 addresses reported) | May 29 04:25 |
| techrights-bot | List of known and active #gemini capsules, as per Lupa (over 1,000 in total): gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/lupa-capsules.txt #geminiSpace | May 29 04:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: what does that mean? | May 29 04:26 |
| schestowitz | the site/http? | May 29 04:26 |
| MinceR | that their host their website on shithub | May 29 04:26 |
| schestowitz | let me check | May 29 04:26 |
| schestowitz | PING libera.chat (185.199.110.153) 56(84) bytes of data. | May 29 04:27 |
| schestowitz | 64 bytes from cdn-185-199-110-153.github.com | May 29 04:27 |
| techrights-bot | All you mindless fanatics who flock over to libera.chat (185.199.110.153), be aware that they have outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly ( cdn-185-199-110-153.github.com ). So they don't exactly value freedom or "libera"... it's just shallow rhetoric. Because it's an ego think against #freenode | May 29 04:28 |
| schestowitz | should we do a quick post about it? Not sure I want to 'bash' them... | May 29 04:29 |
| schestowitz | it would lead nowhere good tbh | May 29 04:29 |
| MinceR | not quite the way i would have put it :> | May 29 04:29 |
| schestowitz | because freenode isn't without its issues, either | May 29 04:29 |
| phobos | I'd do it and laugh at the death threats they send | May 29 04:30 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 04:30 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io | May 29 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io: The website of Libera Chat, providing documentation and news | May 29 04:30 | |
| techrights-bot | Libera chat is both managed AND hosted by #microsoft ... and it is #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly ... maybe time to add to http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | May 29 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | May 29 04:31 | |
| MinceR | iirc the freenode website was also mentioned to be based on a shithub repository | May 29 04:31 |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0 right | May 29 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - freenode/web-7.0: The freenode website, home to our blog, knowledge base and policies | May 29 04:31 | |
| schestowitz | at least now I can better formulate what projects do by moving to libera chat | May 29 04:32 |
| XRevan86 | And it's possible it's on GitHub fully, but Cloudflare obscures that. | May 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | more Microsoft | May 29 04:32 |
| MinceR | the main site is behind crimeflare | May 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | and proprietary hosting | May 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | just not the IRC part | May 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: managed and hosted | May 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | they didn't have to host it on Microsoft | May 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | but they DO | May 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | so tech-saavy | May 29 04:33 |
| schestowitz | savvy | May 29 04:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: do you know tricks for checking past clownflare? | May 29 04:33 |
| schestowitz | rasengan: is freenode hosted (the site) on Microsoft? | May 29 04:33 |
| schestowitz | why would they even manage their site on git, let alone shithub? | May 29 04:34 |
| schestowitz | a lot of it is not code at all | May 29 04:34 |
| MinceR | managing a website on git makes sense | May 29 04:34 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's static-site hosting for free. | May 29 04:35 |
| MinceR | especially if it's processed into static html | May 29 04:35 |
| MinceR | just not on microsoft github | May 29 04:35 |
| XRevan86 | GitLab.com does it also | May 29 04:35 |
| schestowitz | we do the techrights gemini capsule on git | May 29 04:35 |
| phobos | MinceR: the same way shooting ones self in the foot makes sense? | May 29 04:35 |
| schestowitz | but a lot of it is script-driven | May 29 04:35 |
| MinceR | phobos: not really | May 29 04:35 |
| schestowitz | the main site is all DBs | May 29 04:35 |
| MinceR | it's nice to be able to keep older versions and be able to merge concurrent edits nicely | May 29 04:35 |
| phobos | or in the same sense of Chicagos gun laws> | May 29 04:35 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: for 'free' | May 29 04:35 |
| schestowitz | they control you | May 29 04:35 |
| schestowitz | some exchange of power | May 29 04:35 |
| MinceR | if you really want, you can even use a CI system to do that processing to static html automatically when you push to the central repo | May 29 04:35 |
| MinceR | and have any sites update themselves | May 29 04:36 |
| XRevan86 | https://gohugo.io/hosting-and-deployment/hosting-on-gitlab/ | May 29 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gohugo.io | Host on GitLab | Hugo | May 29 04:36 | |
| phobos | MinceR: No offense to you, of course. :D | May 29 04:36 |
| schestowitz | phobos: does freenode get hosted on reliable servers (https)? | May 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | hopefully not shithub | May 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | otherwise one selling point is lost | May 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | and afaik you are involved | May 29 04:37 |
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| XRevan86 | Where can I put money on that they do? | May 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | libera.chat site: | May 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | CSS | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | 45.7% | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | May 29 04:38 | |
| schestowitz | JavaScript | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | 27.4% | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | HTML | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | 23.4% | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | May 29 04:38 | |
| schestowitz | Ruby | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | 3.5% | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | at least no typescript like the anti-FSF pettiion | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | where it's like 60% Microsoft stuff | May 29 04:38 |
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| phobos | freenode.net is hosted on clown fair | May 29 04:38 |
| phobos | and the chat servers themselves are mostly donated from data centers scattered all around | May 29 04:38 |
| XRevan86 | phobos: That's not hosting | May 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | main libera site person is from sweden https://github.com/swantzter | May 29 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-swantzter (Svante Bengtson) · GitHub | May 29 04:39 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: right | May 29 04:39 |
| MinceR | so that's why they incorporated in sweden | May 29 04:39 |
| XRevan86 | phobos: Unless Cloudflare has suddenly decided to go into static-site hosting business. | May 29 04:39 |
| phobos | Yeah, you are right. | May 29 04:39 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io/graphs/contributors | May 29 04:39 |
| phobos | going by the icann lookup | May 29 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Contributors to Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io · GitHub | May 29 04:39 | |
| phobos | schestowitz, What do you mean by 'involved'? | May 29 04:40 |
| phobos | I haven't been in any kind of authority position that matters in freenode for over a decade | May 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | I see... | May 29 04:40 |
| phobos | but I did know and have the ear of a few staffers from time to time | May 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | well, anyway, I hope that freenode.net site isn't served to clowndflare from Microsoft servers | May 29 04:41 |
| phobos | also was involved in a hunt for corrupt staffers that lasted some years | May 29 04:41 |
| schestowitz | because that's a double-whammy bad | May 29 04:41 |
| schestowitz | two-dipped surveillance | May 29 04:41 |
| schestowitz | and proprietary too | May 29 04:41 |
| schestowitz | we don't even see the sausage factory of those malicious firms | May 29 04:41 |
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| schestowitz | rasengan would know anyhow | May 29 04:42 |
| schestowitz | we need to understand who >technically< takes freedom more seriously | May 29 04:43 |
| schestowitz | using an iphone and macbook air doesn't work in favour of that | May 29 04:43 |
| schestowitz | because of people who themselves don't take sw freedom seriously and sign anti-RMS letters run an IRC network, that's a cause for suspicion | May 29 04:44 |
| schestowitz | as it matters who controls your platform of comms (spying/intel, not just censorship) | May 29 04:44 |
| *schestowitz just added https://github.com/Libera-Chat/libera-chat.github.io/graphs/contributors | May 29 04:45 | |
| schestowitz | oops | May 29 04:45 |
| schestowitz | wrong URL | May 29 04:45 |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/ | May 29 04:45 |
| schestowitz | it seems like there's no high ground on the basis of Microsoft | May 29 04:45 |
| schestowitz | if both freenote and libera uses shithub | May 29 04:46 |
| MinceR | just more red flags | May 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | for their site if not more | May 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, exactly | May 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | and they post their messages and announcement in Microsoft also | May 29 04:46 |
| MinceR | maybe we get lucky and the FSF starts their own network | May 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | as if to say, like.... wth? | May 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | it's like Trump talking to his rally goers in pink suit | May 29 04:46 |
| XRevan86 | I think the reasons to use GitHub by freenode have evaporated. | May 29 04:47 |
| XRevan86 | now that it's a central company that owns server, it can just use those | May 29 04:47 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/Libera-Chat/Sigyn | May 29 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - Libera-Chat/Sigyn: A Limnoria plugin to fight abuse on IRC networks | May 29 04:47 | |
| XRevan86 | * servers | May 29 04:47 |
| schestowitz | they outsource more than the site to Microsoft proprietary software | May 29 04:47 |
| schestowitz | lol | May 29 04:47 |
| MinceR | they already had plenty of (donated) servers they controlled | May 29 04:48 |
| schestowitz | screw "libe*" | May 29 04:48 |
| schestowitz | they're no liber anything | May 29 04:48 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: exactly, just a bunch of crybullies | May 29 04:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Right, but I figure they wanted 100% reliability for the website. | May 29 04:48 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: I will have another argument against that now | May 29 04:48 |
| schestowitz | to stay vigilant | May 29 04:48 |
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| schestowitz | maybe they'll start banning people for bashing Microsoft | May 29 04:49 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: they don't get that from microsoft, though | May 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | because, you know... "MICROSOFT IS OPEN" now.. | May 29 04:49 |
| MinceR | "bashing" | May 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | like rapi | May 29 04:49 |
| MinceR | which nowadays means "criticizing" | May 29 04:49 |
| CrystalMath | no bashing! cmding only :P | May 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | banning people and forum threads | May 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | for "Microsoft bashing" | May 29 04:49 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | after giving Microsoft ROOT on their boxes!! | May 29 04:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: From their perspective: even if they get a 100% infrastructural collapse, the website will be up. | May 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | what? Microsoft | May 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | wait. incoming. DMCA! | May 29 04:50 |
| MinceR | no, because if they host their website on shithub, then the involved shithub servers are part of their infrastructure | May 29 04:50 |
| MinceR | and if azure shits itself again, it will be painfully obvious that their site is down because they made the wrong choice | May 29 04:50 |
| XRevan86 | And HTTP kind of need a central point | May 29 04:50 |
| schestowitz | Azure might shut down in the next 10 years | May 29 04:50 |
| XRevan86 | they could use a load balancer but… that load balancer should be up somewhere | May 29 04:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe 5 | May 29 04:50 |
| schestowitz | like the vmware 'clown' | May 29 04:51 |
| schestowitz | they lose money and even lay off workers | May 29 04:51 |
| schestowitz | clown does not mean uptime | May 29 04:51 |
| schestowitz | does not mean longterm assurance | May 29 04:51 |
| schestowitz | it only means being at the mercy of some company's financial interests | May 29 04:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What I don't understand is why they couldn't even get the closest alternative, which can do all the things the Microsoft's platform can. | May 29 04:51 |
| MinceR | that load balancer shouldn't be run by people who thought tossing the windowing system into the kernel would be a good idea | May 29 04:51 |
| schestowitz | so you can pray that when you want YOUR site up they too want THEIR service up | May 29 04:51 |
| schestowitz | because they don't care about YOU | May 29 04:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: but it's secret code :0) | May 29 04:52 |
| schestowitz | nobody is supposed to notice | May 29 04:52 |
| schestowitz | technical debt and all | May 29 04:52 |
| MinceR | or who thought that if you hide a private key in your OS and ship it to everybody, it won't be found | May 29 04:52 |
| schestowitz | link? | May 29 04:53 |
| MinceR | these are old stories | May 29 04:53 |
| MinceR | https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windowsserver/en-US/0bc15258-2bc5-40f9-a383-93adcba25a38/microsoft-rdp-server-private-key-disclosure | May 29 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.technet.microsoft.com | Microsoft RDP Server Private Key Disclosure | May 29 04:53 | |
| techrights-bot | Upon further research, libera chat is controlled by #microsoft apologists if not lovers. They outsource their code to #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly #github ... how can we trust them not to ban users for "Microsoft bashing" as RasPi Limited did months ago? | May 29 04:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Realistically, I don't think their website will suddenly collapse any time soon. | May 29 04:55 |
| MinceR | we'll see | May 29 04:55 |
| techrights-bot | Also, Libera chat isn't basing in Sweden because of #privacy ANYTHING but because of the main and almost sole site maintainer is a Swede | May 29 04:55 |
| techrights-bot | Those who rush away from #freenode ... I can understand. Esp. given the channels confiscation blunder. But rushing to those two "other networks" without researching them properly isn't wise. Just being "not freenode" does not magically imply "benevolent". http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ | May 29 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights | May 29 04:58 | |
| techrights-bot | Calling your project or site "liber" something or "libre" something is easy. There are almost thousands (many sites) called "FOSS" or "Linux" something even if they're run by people who don't use Linux and writers who promote #ProprietarySoftware ... talk is cheap. Show me actions... and policies in practice. | May 29 04:59 |
| techrights-bot | The free in #freenode stands for freedom. The Liber in Libera Chat stands for (neo) liberal. | May 29 05:00 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 05:01 |
| techrights-bot | #irc is supported by thousands of bits of software, unlike Matrix and all sorts of #ProprietarySoftware copycats from #microsoft and #salesforce ... IRC isn't going away. And companies that are governed by techs who understand tech (not people who swallow BRANDS and BRIBES) will steer BACK towards it. | May 29 05:02 |
| alextee[m] | >The free in #freenode stands for freedom. The Liber in Libera Chat stands for (neo) liberal. | May 29 05:02 |
| alextee[m] | lol | May 29 05:02 |
| techrights-bot | Libera chat: yeah, let's just show how "liber" we are by outsourcing our 1) site code 2) site hosting 3) projects to a bunch of criminals who badmouth and bribe to undermine #freesw http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ | May 29 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | Techrights | May 29 05:04 | |
| techrights-bot | #librea Chat and #OFTC are NOT friends of #softwarefreedom ... that's not to say that #freenode is without problems but its owner was last year's biggest FSF donor http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ | May 29 05:05 |
| techrights-bot | Leaping between #irc networks without even taking a moment to research who runs and owns them is an act of short-term self-gratification but a risky gambit. Choosing between masters, esp. those whom you neither truly know nor understand, is false dichotomism. | May 29 05:07 |
| techrights-bot | Those of us who lost many #fediverse accounts (I've lost 3 and gave up; mostly due to site shutdown or server crashes) will know that #irc choices should be based on longterm health and stability. Libera chat is all #microsoft (technially), except the IRC daemons. | May 29 05:08 |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft can exercise control over Libera chat, e.g. demand deletion of user x or channel y, or else we 1) take away your site code. 2) pull your Web site offline. 3) take away your code hosting (operational disruption). #deletegithub #proprietarySotware | May 29 05:10 |
| techrights-bot | Libre chat: we don't know how to set up and manage a git server (funny that, even I can do that... with little experience) but trust us to run a whole IRC network... | May 29 05:11 |
| techrights-bot | Libera guidelines: "Some topics are more prone to heated debates than others. These topics include, among others, politics, religion/faith and ideologies. While free / open source software, privacy, and broad licenses are often political as well, we recommend keeping unrelated politics to a minimum." Oh, no atheism allowed then? | May 29 05:13 |
| schestowitz | https://libera.chat/guidelines | May 29 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libera.chat | Guidelines, recommendations and best practices | Libera Chat | May 29 05:14 | |
| schestowitz | "Using the op status to intimidate or as a warning shot is frowned upon, as it often does not help improve outcomes." | May 29 05:14 |
| schestowitz | They are guilty of that | May 29 05:14 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: really, they're just terrible... did you read what Elena Hashman wrote on some IRC? i got a quote of her criticizing the FSF for rejecting proprietary elements of matrix | May 29 05:16 |
| schestowitz | can you show me? | May 29 05:16 |
| schestowitz | I did not see what the IBMer said | May 29 05:17 |
| CrystalMath | i can't remember | May 29 05:17 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▆▆▅▆▄▂▅▆▁▂▆▃▄▅▅▃▄▁▆▅▁▂▄▅▆▅▂▃▃▂▄▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.31 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▃█▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁█▂▃▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 32.83▕ swarm size (avg): 233.18 ⟲ | May 29 05:17 |
| schestowitz | try to find it | May 29 05:17 |
| schestowitz | anyway, dehomag employees don't care about ethics | May 29 05:17 |
| CrystalMath | i'm too tired at the moment, i'll do it tomorrow | May 29 05:17 |
| schestowitz | their concept of ethics is something like, let's gag people who dislike us | May 29 05:17 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: which channel was this in? | May 29 05:17 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather not mention name | May 29 05:17 |
| schestowitz | as they use that to imply "sexism" | May 29 05:18 |
| CrystalMath | err i don't know where she said it, but i got the quote on #fsf | May 29 05:18 |
| CrystalMath | if you can find a log of that meeting | May 29 05:18 |
| CrystalMath | it's there | May 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | so it was said in FSF?! | May 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | She was in FSF channel | May 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | ? | May 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | After MANAGING an ANTI-FSF petition | May 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | amazing if true | May 29 05:18 |
| CrystalMath | no | May 29 05:19 |
| schestowitz | ok | May 29 05:19 |
| CrystalMath | someone quoted her on #fsf | May 29 05:19 |
| CrystalMath | but i have *no clue* where she said it | May 29 05:19 |
| CrystalMath | possibly on libtardia somewhere :P | May 29 05:19 |
| techrights-bot | Wrangling the EC: Adventures in Power Sequencing https://puri.sm/posts/wrangling-the-ec-adventures-in-power-sequencing/ #gnu #linux | May 29 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Wrangling the EC: Adventures in Power Sequencing – Purism | May 29 05:19 | |
| techrights-bot | From what I can gather, Libera chat has adopted Pakistani guidelines and you can be 'deplatformed' for so-called #blasphemy (superstition need to be respected, not challenged... because truth hurts) | May 29 05:21 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: so it is a very indirect quote | May 29 05:21 |
| schestowitz | and may be unreliable hearsay | May 29 05:21 |
| CrystalMath | yeah please wait until i at least get the quote right | May 29 05:22 |
| CrystalMath | i forgot whether it was matrix or discord | May 29 05:22 |
| CrystalMath | but yeah basically it was like, she believes in using proprietary platforms | May 29 05:22 |
| CrystalMath | to spread a message of software freedom | May 29 05:22 |
| schestowitz | wait | May 29 05:24 |
| schestowitz | no | May 29 05:24 |
| schestowitz | that's a leap | May 29 05:24 |
| schestowitz | she does not believe in spreading such messages | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | that's the key point | May 29 05:25 |
| CrystalMath | heh | May 29 05:25 |
| CrystalMath | yeah | May 29 05:25 |
| CrystalMath | just using proprietary platforms :P | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | this is why she wants RMS to go away | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | maybe to get a stroke or somethibng | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | online harassment campaign against a man almost 70 | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | who committed no crime | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | BTW | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | IBM... | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, IMPOSED Slack on ALL staff | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | based on press reports | May 29 05:25 |
| schestowitz | that's Hashman for you | May 29 05:26 |
| schestowitz | maybe compensating for self-shame/guilt | May 29 05:26 |
| schestowitz | there's that old saying... | May 29 05:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/renata-avila-rms/ | May 29 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Renata Avila: Trying to Understand the Lynching of Stallman | Techrights | May 29 05:26 | |
| schestowitz | "RMS’ principled stances cause an uncomfortable cognitive dissonance for them. They would rather kill a sacrificial Gnu than admit their own shortcomings. " | May 29 05:27 |
| techrights-bot | "RMS’ principled stances cause an uncomfortable cognitive dissonance for them. They would rather kill a sacrificial Gnu than admit their own shortcomings." http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/renata-avila-rms/ | May 29 05:27 |
| techrights-bot | There is nobody left to discuss ways forward with #EPO dictator Campinos; he has clearly lost control of the institution at several levels • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/28/epo-campinos-is-finished/ ䷉ #Techrights #europe #corruption | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/28/epo-campinos-is-finished/ | May 29 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President Campinos is Finished (EPO Crisis Afoot) | Techrights | May 29 05:29 | |
| techrights-bot | I'm now told that the anti-RMS lobby (also #IBM staff, revealing the general agenda) bashes the #fsf for rejecting #ProprietarySotware in their communications platform, the context being #IRC ... as if it's wrong for the FSF to insist on what it exists for :-) | May 29 05:33 |
| CrystalMath | goodnight | May 29 05:33 |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Always read both sides of the story - http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) | May 29 05:33 | |
| techrights-bot | "For engineering, outside of IBM, badges, industry certifications, etc. do not mean much. What counts is how one performs during the job interview - coding, algorithms, design, culture fit, etc. and evaluation is by the team members. It’s what you know, not who you know." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 05:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 05:34 | |
| techrights-bot | "I quit following IBM. These badges are an embarrassment. The only people that may care, are other IBMers" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 05:35 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm + #microsoft = #lovefest "I am a ex-IBMer but was still following IBM in LinkedIn, so on my LinkedIn home page, all I saw was “view my achievement at IBM (with some certificate)”. It was too much so I had to unfollow IBM." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 05:36 |
| techrights-bot | "Yeah they were a waste of time. Even worse than that was all the MANDATORY training. Piled on top of everything else it was overwhelming. Glad I'm out of there after decades." #ibm #microsoft #socialcontrolmedia #bullshit https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 05:36 |
| techrights-bot | "Before each interview, ask what is expected. It’s in the best interest of the company and you to be prepared, in the interest of not wasting time." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4jZVuv#replies in #microsoft and #ibm case, you need to show willingness to engage in #crime inc. #bribery (no room for ethics) http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ | May 29 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Investing in yourself - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 05:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | Techrights | May 29 05:39 | |
| schestowitz | 404—Not Found | May 29 05:42 |
| schestowitz | "https://freenode.net/groupreG" | May 29 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://freenode.net/groupreG ) | May 29 05:42 | |
| schestowitz | with uppercase G | May 29 05:42 |
| schestowitz | we know it does not run Windows | May 29 05:42 |
| schestowitz | but someone checks for me if there's MS ShitHub behind clownflare | May 29 05:42 |
| schestowitz | just to avoid parity wrt criticism of Libera | May 29 05:43 |
| schestowitz | "ISP Cloudflare" | May 29 05:44 |
| schestowitz | https://www.findip-address.com/104.25.67.39 | May 29 05:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.findip-address.com | 104.25.67.39 - Find IP Address - Lookup and locate an ip address | May 29 05:44 | |
| schestowitz | I cannot bypass that with cleverly crafted URLs | May 29 05:44 |
| schestowitz | all gets funneled through the CF circus | May 29 05:44 |
| schestowitz | https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffreenode.net | May 29 05:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://freenode.net | Netcraft | May 29 05:45 | |
| schestowitz | clownflare for 6+ years | May 29 05:45 |
| schestowitz | CertificateGoogle Argon 2021 | May 29 05:46 |
| schestowitz | 9lyUL9F3MCIUVBgIMJRWjuNNExkzv98MLyALzE7xZOM= | May 29 05:46 |
| schestowitz | CertificateDigiCert Yeti 2021 | May 29 05:46 |
| schestowitz | XNxDkv7mq0VEsV6a1FbmEDf71fpH3KFzlLJe5vbHDso= | May 29 05:46 |
| schestowitz | it also uses Varnish | May 29 05:47 |
| techrights-bot | #Games : Resolutiion, Eagle Island, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151723 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #gaming | May 29 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Resolutiion, Eagle Island, and More | Tux Machines | May 29 05:49 | |
| techrights-bot | Bad, bad headline, #mozilla ... the objective is to BLOCK them, not pretend they respect #privacy https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-a-more-privacy-preserving-ads-based-ecosystem/ then again, Mozilla is managed by people from #microsoft and #facebook http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ | May 29 05:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Building a more privacy preserving ads-based ecosystem | May 29 05:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights | May 29 05:53 | |
| techrights-bot | #mozilla as apologist for ads and #surveillanceCapitalism ... "Advertisements pay for all those “free” services you love" ... no, that's false. Partly true, mostly false. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/the-future-of-ads-and-privacy/ | May 29 05:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | The future of ads and privacy | May 29 05:54 | |
| techrights-bot | Bottom line is, #mozilla does not really care about your #privacy but it cares about spreading the perception that it does | May 29 05:55 |
| techrights-bot | Maybe we should wait for #china to give us a few hundreds of millions of #gnu #linux users? https://www.techradar.com/news/huawei-apparently-has-an-arm-based-linux-laptop | May 29 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Huawei is reportedly working on a Linux laptop | TechRadar | May 29 05:56 | |
| techrights-bot | "AlmaLinux, the Linux distribution designed specifically as a CentOS replacement, just released version 8.4 as its second stable release." https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/centos-replacement-almalinux-84-released | May 29 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | CentOS Replacement AlmaLinux 8.4 Released | IT Pro | May 29 05:57 | |
| techrights-bot | If you care about #privacy then you would not use ANYTHING #apple or "Apple Mail" https://www.maketecheasier.com/block-tracking-pixels-apple-mail/ #gafam #nsa #espionage | May 29 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Block Tracking Pixels in Apple Mail - Make Tech Easier | May 29 05:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #drm as a 'Linux' job http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2021-05-29/moving-to-australia.html | May 29 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brendangregg.com | Moving my US tech job to Australia | May 29 05:59 | |
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| BaronVladimirHar | I love how Cloudflare is hosting everything from the FBI to Nazis to porn to pirate websites. | May 29 07:10 |
| BaronVladimirHar | One massive honeypot. | May 29 07:10 |
| schestowitz | surveillance sieve | May 29 07:16 |
| schestowitz | rerouted via USland | May 29 07:16 |
| techrights-bot | #Nitrux Official Statement Regarding UXDivers Grial Kit • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151724 #microsoft is, as usual, attacking #freesw projects by hijacking their names and confusing people. Microsoft has been doing exactly THAT for DECADES. | May 29 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Official Statement Regarding UXDivers Grial Kit and MauiKit.com usage | Tux Machines | May 29 07:23 | |
| techrights-bot | Move to #geminiSpace to reduce pollution https://www.sam-i-am.com/blog/2021/05/lower-carbon-internet-qos.html | May 29 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sam-i-am.com | Ideas on a lower-carbon internet through scheduled downloads and Quality of Service requests | Occasional notes / Sam Foster | May 29 07:24 | |
| techrights-bot | When #patent systems become so crooked, due to #lobbying if not #vendorcapture , that they prioritise #litigation over innovation, favouring monopolistic #cartels instead of actual scientists https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1073748/requesting-patent-prosecution-highway-pph-in-the-epo-or-uk-ipo | May 29 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Requesting Patent Prosecution Highway (PPH) In The EPO Or UK IPO - Intellectual Property - UK | May 29 07:26 | |
| techrights-bot | The term #MedTech is just a sneaky buzzword to sell illegal #softwarepatents https://www.bioworld.com/articles/507610-bioworld-medtech-patent-highlights-week-20?v=preview #swpats http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/software-as-a-medical-device-samd-like-medtech-at-the-epo-just-another-dodge-for-illegitimate-software-patents/ | May 29 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BioWorld MedTech Patent Highlights: Week 20 | 2021-05-28 | BioWorld | May 29 07:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software as a Medical Device (SaMD) — Like MedTech at the EPO — Just Another Dodge for Illegitimate Software Patents | Techrights | May 29 07:28 | |
| techrights-bot | Many changes made today to #techrights #gemini capsule, the front page in particular. Stuff added. | May 29 07:29 |
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| techrights-bot | Neo-colonialism: pushing #patents and other monopolies using the misleading Trojan horses, "science" and "innovation" (to cause self-harm to #Africa https://www.scidev.net/sub-saharan-africa/events_noticeafrica-europe-science-and-innovation-summit-14th-to-18th-june-2021/ | May 29 07:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scidev.net | Africa-Europe Science and Innovation Summit -14th to 18th June 2021 - Sub-Saharan Africa | May 29 07:33 | |
| techrights-bot | "The first plenary debate in the Bundestag (Federal Parliament) was a sweeping victory for those opposing reform, and a parliamentary hearing confirmed that pro-reform lobbying efforts had failed miserably." http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/05/patent-injunction-reform-may-not-happen.html http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ | May 29 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Patent injunction reform may not happen in Germany as Federal Parliament nears end of legislative term: only two more plenary weeks left | May 29 07:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag — Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights | May 29 07:35 | |
| techrights-bot | This week in KDE: performance improvements galore • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151725 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE | May 29 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: performance improvements galore | Tux Machines | May 29 07:39 | |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/05/tenfourfox-fpr32-spr1-available.html | May 29 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenfourfox.blogspot.com | TenFourFox Development: TenFourFox FPR32 SPR1 available | May 29 07:40 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm hour ago: "Marketing is the worst with badges. Agree.. people with badges r the ones that don’t have skills to show so they take a 2 hr class and a quiz and voila, they’re an expert now. Bullocks. These people are just victims of ibms processes. We have mandatory 40 or 80 hours of learning now." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 08:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 08:01 | |
| techrights-bot | "Go away, HR shill." Is #ibm trolling these forums? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4fzaXo#replies | May 29 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Call out to Summit Hires - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 08:03 | |
| techrights-bot | "What is up with all of these fake posts from #IBM HR ?" #trolling and #astroturfing h https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1yFZJV#replies | May 29 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How do you cope in the new companies? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 08:04 | |
| techrights-bot | "There are no big layoffs planned until after July 1. This is well known." #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aWJp96w#replies | May 29 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | So what's going on? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 08:05 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #DanielStenberg #IRC ☞ History of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) https://daniel.haxx.se/irchistory.html | May 29 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel.haxx.se | History of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) | May 29 08:08 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Bellingcat #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ US Soldiers Expose Nuclear Weapons Secrets Via Flashcard Apps https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2021/05/28/us-soldiers-expose-nuclear-weapons-secrets-via-flashcard-apps/ | May 29 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Soldiers Expose Nuclear Weapons Secrets Via Flashcard Apps - bellingcat | May 29 08:08 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Twitter could be working on Facebook-style reactions https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/28/22458959/twitter-reactions-feature-facebook-sad-cheer | May 29 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Twitter could be working on Facebook-style reactions - The Verge | May 29 08:09 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #WhatsApp reverses course, now won’t limit functionality if you don’t accept its new privacy policy https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/28/22458805/whatsapp-privacy-policy-no-plans-limit-functionality | May 29 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | WhatsApp now won’t limit functionality if you don’t accept its new privacy policy - The Verge | May 29 08:09 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #ForeignPolicy #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Kremlin-Backed [Crackers] Target U.S. Aid Agency Before Biden-Putin Summit https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/28/russia-hack-usaid-biden-putin-summit-cyberattack/ | May 29 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foreignpolicy.com | Russian Hackers Target USAID, U.S. Human Rights Groups Ahead of Biden-Putin Summit | May 29 08:09 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▂▅▆▅▄▃▆▅▅▆▃▄▅▅▄▆▆▅▂▃▅▄▅▂▅▆▂▂▅▆▅▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 21.86 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▃▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 30.08▕ swarm size (avg): 233.44 ⟲ | May 29 08:17 |
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| techrights-bot | QUIC: A UDP-Based Multiplexed and Secure Transport https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9000.html | May 29 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rfc-editor.org | RFC 9000: QUIC: A UDP-Based Multiplexed and Secure Transport | May 29 09:41 | |
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| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151726 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 29 09:45 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #police ☞ Citizen - The App That Wants To Be A Cop - Offered A $30,000 Bounty For The Apprehension Of An Innocent Person https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210527/12081946889/citizen-app-that-wants-to-be-cop-offered-30000-bounty-apprehension-innocent-person.shtml | May 29 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Citizen -- The App That Wants To Be A Cop -- Offered A $30,000 Bounty For The Apprehension Of An Innocent Person | Techdirt | May 29 09:46 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #patent #patents #monopolies ☞ Making Vaccines More Accessible https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/05/28/making-vaccines-more-accessible/ | May 29 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Making Vaccines More Accessible - CounterPunch.org | May 29 10:00 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Fact Check: Yes, Fact Checking Is Totally Protected By The 1st Amendment https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210527/12560746890/fact-check-yes-fact-checking-is-totally-protected-1st-amendment.shtml | May 29 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fact Check: Yes, Fact Checking Is Totally Protected By The 1st Amendment | Techdirt | May 29 10:00 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ Raspberry Pi Pico-controlled model railroad https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-pico-controlled-model-railroad/ | May 29 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Raspberry Pi Pico-controlled model railroad - Raspberry Pi | May 29 10:01 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #KrebsOnSecurity #mx ☞ Boss of ATM Skimming Syndicate Arrested in #Mexico https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/05/boss-of-atm-skimming-syndicate-arrested-in-mexico/ | May 29 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Boss of ATM Skimming Syndicate Arrested in Mexico – Krebs on Security | May 29 10:03 | |
| techrights-bot | I hear that #intel is collapsing, from people who used to work there... | May 29 10:07 |
| alextee[m] | wow this is nice https://blog.jiyu.dev/building-a-high-performance-free-as-in-freedom-server | May 29 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jiyu.dev | Building a high performance free as in freedom server on a budget — Jiyu Software | May 29 10:07 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #WhatsApp Sues The Indian Government Over New Laws That Would Force It To Break #Encryption https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210526/13285946879/whatsapp-sues-indian-government-over-new-laws-that-would-force-it-to-break-encryption.shtml | May 29 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WhatsApp Sues The Indian Government Over New Laws That Would Force It To Break Encryption | Techdirt | May 29 10:08 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #surveillance #censorship ☞ #ContentModeration Case Study: Time Warner Cable Doesn't Want Anyone To See Critical Parody (2013) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210528/10320246898/content-moderation-case-study-time-warner-cable-doesnt-want-anyone-to-see-critical-parody-2013.shtml | May 29 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Study: Time Warner Cable Doesn't Want Anyone To See Critical Parody (2013) | Techdirt | May 29 10:10 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Unofficial Amiibo Guidebook Will Be Released With Changes To Appease #Nintendo https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210527/10061946885/unofficial-amiibo-guidebook-will-be-released-with-changes-to-appease-nintendo.shtml | May 29 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unofficial Amiibo Guidebook Will Be Released With Changes To Appease Nintendo | Techdirt | May 29 10:20 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Tor #torproject ☞ New release candidate: Tor 0.4.6.4-rc https://blog.torproject.org/node/2036 | May 29 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New release candidate: Tor 0.4.6.4-rc | Tor Blog | May 29 10:29 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Tor #torproject ☞ Dreaming at Dusk: the Tor Project’s NFT Auction & What’s Next https://blog.torproject.org/nft-auction-and-whats-next | May 29 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Dreaming at Dusk: the Tor Project’s NFT Auction & What’s Next | Tor Blog | May 29 10:31 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Triller Files Three New Lawsuits Against Jake Paul Boxing Match Pirates https://torrentfreak.com/triller-files-three-new-lawsuits-against-jake-paul-boxing-match-pirates-210528/ | May 29 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Triller Files Three New Lawsuits Against Jake Paul Boxing Match Pirates * TorrentFreak | May 29 10:43 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ ISPs Must Unblock Stream-Ripping Sites After Yout.com Intervenes in Brazil https://torrentfreak.com/isps-must-unblock-stream-ripping-sites-after-yout-com-intervenes-in-brazil-210528/ | May 29 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISPs Must Unblock Stream-Ripping Sites After Yout.com Intervenes in Brazil * TorrentFreak | May 29 10:43 | |
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| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151730 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 29 11:22 | |
| techrights-bot | #Librem and #FreeSoftware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151729 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Librem and Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 29 11:22 | |
| techrights-bot | #Tor and #Mozilla Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151728 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor and Mozilla Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 29 11:22 | |
| techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151727 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 29 11:22 | |
| techrights-bot | Links 29/5/2021: #OpenZFS 2.1 RC6 and #AlmaLinux 8.4 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/almalinux-8-4/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/29/almalinux-8-4/ | May 29 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/5/2021: OpenZFS 2.1 RC6 and AlmaLinux 8.4 | Techrights | May 29 11:23 | |
| techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151731 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 29 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 29 11:29 | |
| techrights-bot | 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 #IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 28, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/irc-log-280521/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/29/irc-log-280521/ | May 29 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 28, 2021 | Techrights | May 29 11:30 | |
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| techrights-bot | President of the Boards of Appeal and His ‘Handler’ #AntónioCampinos Need to Step Down to Save the #EPO http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/antonio-campinos-needs-to-step-down/ #europe #corruption #patents | May 29 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President of the Boards of Appeal and His ‘Handler’ António Campinos Need to Step Down to Save the EPO | Techrights | May 29 12:26 | |
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| techrights-bot | [Meme] #EPO Bad for Your Health (Even as President) http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/antonio-campinos-health/ #europe #patents #stress #corruption | May 29 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Bad for Your Health (Even as President) | Techrights | May 29 12:45 | |
| techrights-bot | "The European #Patent Office is the second largest (~7,000 employees) public institution in #Europe . However, legally it is outside the European Union 'proper'. Technically it consists of several parts under a single umbrella organisation." http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO_in_2021 | May 29 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO in 2021 - Techrights | May 29 12:51 | |
| techrights-bot | Sometimes #stevejobs says the truth about #apple (or said it on the record) http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Steve_Jobs__Good_artists_copy_great_artists_steal.ogg | May 29 13:11 |
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| techrights-bot | Updates on Techrights Videos, Techrights IPFS, Techrights Gemini, Techrights Bulletins, and Techrights IRC • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/2021-site-updates/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/29/2021-site-updates/ | May 29 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Updates on Techrights Videos, Techrights IPFS, Techrights Gemini, Techrights Bulletins, and Techrights IRC | Techrights | May 29 14:10 | |
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| schestowitz | I have just done a video about IRC | May 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz | hopefully last one | May 29 15:04 |
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| techrights-bot | #gemini capsule of #techrights now 'displays' images as descriptive text about their contents. Implemented in Perl. Example in gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/28/epo-eba-crisis/index.gmi | May 29 15:26 |
| techrights-bot | The crisis has become severe enough or so prominent that a major overhaul is needed to restore basic reputation (for the granting authority and the tribunal overseeing this process); #AntónioCampinos needs to resign, as he clearly failed on all levels, including dialogue with staff • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/antonio-campinos-needs-to-step-down/ ䷉ #Techrights | | May 29 15:29 |
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| techrights-bot | According to insiders/informed sources, #AntónioCampinos won’t seek to have his term extended; look what a few years inside the #EPO can do to a person… • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/antonio-campinos-health/ ䷉ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/29/antonio-campinos-health/ | May 29 15:31 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/746881.jpg | May 29 15:34 |
| CrystalMath | :P | May 29 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | we'll see what happens tuesday | May 29 15:39 |
| MinceR | what's planned for tuesday? | May 29 15:40 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: where's the video on IRC? | May 29 15:40 |
| schestowitz | still transcoding | May 29 15:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wrong channel | May 29 15:41 |
| schestowitz | see #boycottnovell | May 29 15:41 |
| MinceR | ic | May 29 15:41 |
| stormchaser3000 | I saw a link recently pointing to a project where someone managed to fit GNU+Linux onto a single 3.5" floppy disk | May 29 15:42 |
| stormchaser3000 | and this is a modern Linux kernel | May 29 15:42 |
| stormchaser3000 | (5.13 rc something) | May 29 15:42 |
| MinceR | did they embed a flash card into a floppy disk case? :> | May 29 15:42 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: basically, it covers some things we discussed recently | May 29 15:42 |
| stormchaser3000 | nope | May 29 15:43 |
| stormchaser3000 | the image literally fits onto a floppy disk | May 29 15:43 |
| schestowitz | hackaday covered it | May 29 15:43 |
| MinceR | https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/eb/0a/8deb0afeb7865134c01bc7ce9da9aeb3.jpg | May 29 15:43 |
| stormchaser3000 | https://bits.p1x.in/floppinux-an-embedded-linux-on-a-single-floppy/ | May 29 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bits.p1x.in | Floppinux - An Embedded 🐧Linux on a Single 💾Floppy | May 29 15:43 | |
| schestowitz | related but different: 瑨灴⼺眯睷琮硵慭档湩獥漮杲港摯⽥㐱㌷ㄱ | May 29 15:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147311 | May 29 15:43 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: that's two floppies | May 29 15:44 |
| CrystalMath | and that's a damn shame, that's what it is! | May 29 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's 2021 And The Linux Kernel's Floppy Driver Is Still Seeing The Occasional Patch | Tux Machines | May 29 15:44 | |
| schestowitz | I heard bill gates brought his floppies to jeff's plane | May 29 15:44 |
| schestowitz | when they disembarked it was just hard drives | May 29 15:45 |
| MinceR | https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/FloppyCard-640x353.jpg | May 29 15:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151565 | May 29 15:45 |
| schestowitz | this is the story alluded to above | May 29 15:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Running Modern Linux From A Single Floppy Disk | Tux Machines | May 29 15:46 | |
| schestowitz | you could fit a microSD in a nostril | May 29 15:46 |
| schestowitz | way to leak stuff | May 29 15:46 |
| schestowitz | (...until you sneeze) | May 29 15:47 |
| schestowitz | and leak more than a card | May 29 15:47 |
| MinceR | or you leak stuff onto the card | May 29 15:47 |
| schestowitz | I think those cards can cope | May 29 15:47 |
| schestowitz | you can clean them afterwards | May 29 15:47 |
| schestowitz | let's register boogerleaks.org | May 29 15:48 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 15:48 |
| *schestowitz uploads file:///home/roy/freenode-sky-falling-fallacy.webm | May 29 15:48 | |
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| techrights-bot | "The beatings will continue until we get to the 160-180K employees left... After that who knows..." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2NzTFR#replies | May 29 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Remains Big Tech's Disaster - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 15:55 | |
| techrights-bot | " #IBM loves people who take education and collect badges... the HR program/software used it as a criteria to select people for layoffs... so, you better pile up on the badges and the education... that is what counts... making revenue for the company is a lot less important!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies | May 29 15:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 15:56 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/750650.jpg | May 29 15:56 |
| techrights-bot | "Someone please correct my maths if I am completely wrong, but suppose #IBM does get 3% of a $500B cloud market. That's $15B of declining margin business. Does not seem like very much to bet the company on." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b21spuI#replies | May 29 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Cloud resets ‘Days Since Last Major Incident’ clock to zero – after just five days - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 15:57 | |
| techrights-bot | "And whatever viability remains of #Blockchain will be stifled for the next 20 years by all the "The same old Method X, but now on the Blockchain" #patents that #IBM has filed and will probably be granted." #swpats @zoobab https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b49iXRX#replies | May 29 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The exodus continues - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 15:58 | |
| techrights-bot | "No need to do all this, just reduce the management layers in half from 7-8 to 3-4 and give real power to technical people. Only then the company can change" #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aul1Aic#replies | May 29 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Doctor's Orders - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 29 15:59 | |
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| AdmFubar | this is a bit disturbing https://www.databreaches.net/us-soldiers-accidentally-leak-nuclear-secrets-via-study-apps-report/ | May 29 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | US soldiers accidentally leak nuclear secrets via study apps — report | May 29 16:41 | |
| schestowitz | seen that | May 29 16:42 |
| schestowitz | [09:37] <techrights-bot> "re: bellingcat: stupid people thought that those phones and the programs on them were theirs, under their control" -iophk | May 29 16:42 |
| schestowitz | [08:08] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #Bellingcat #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ US Soldiers Expose Nuclear Weapons Secrets Via Flashcard Apps https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2021/05/28/us-soldiers-expose-nuclear-weapons-secrets-via-flashcard-apps/ | May 29 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Soldiers Expose Nuclear Weapons Secrets Via Flashcard Apps - bellingcat | May 29 16:42 | |
| schestowitz | pure comedy! | May 29 16:42 |
| schestowitz | not the first time we see blunders like these | May 29 16:42 |
| schestowitz | the spies want us to use "smart" gadgets | May 29 16:42 |
| schestowitz | but their own staff then picks up those beacons | May 29 16:43 |
| schestowitz | pwning those agencies themselves | May 29 16:43 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622283603824#c779091279137624553 | May 29 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat | May 29 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | "What is the opponent's point in slowing down the process by this procedural trick? I mean, everybody on this planet interested in the outcome of this case knew about the PEPO's (very foreseeable) comments. If the opponent's representatives take the risk of being seen as bloody amateurs, there must be some reason. Perhaps one of the readers can enlighten me?" | May 29 16:45 |
| AdmFubar | I've heard of loose lips sinks ships..... | May 29 16:46 |
| AdmFubar | need to be updates about "loose bits"... | May 29 16:46 |
| techrights-bot | #epo #fakepatents https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/uc-berkeley-crispr-patent-revoked-in-9535636/ | May 29 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UC Berkeley CRISPR Patent Revoked in Europe Due To Invalid Priority Claim | Proskauer - Minding Your Business - JDSupra | May 29 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: yes, true | May 29 16:47 |
| schestowitz | now those lips can be "phones" or "fitness trackers" | May 29 16:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/fitness-tracker-revealed-secret-home-1138507 | May 29 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk | Strava fitness tracker appears to show GPS routes by GCHQ - Gloucestershire Live | May 29 16:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5932965/Shocking-security-lapse-running-app-Polar-exposes-locations-personnel-MI6-GCHQ.html | May 29 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Security lapse as app app Polar Flow exposes MI6 and GCHQ personnel | Daily Mail Online | May 29 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42853072 | May 29 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Fitness app Strava lights up staff at military bases - BBC News | May 29 16:48 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/29/apple_sis_lawsuit/ | May 29 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple sued in nightmare case involving teen wrongly accused of shoplifting, driver's permit used by impostor, and unreliable facial-rec tech • The Register | May 29 16:57 | |
| MinceR | 29 174322 < schestowitz> pwning those agencies themselves | May 29 16:58 |
| MinceR | which is why the NSA's rogue "just break everything" strategy fails | May 29 16:58 |
| schestowitz | yea, it also harms banking etc. | May 29 17:02 |
| schestowitz | they don't pay the price, we do | May 29 17:02 |
| MinceR | i suspect even they pay the price | May 29 17:02 |
| schestowitz | maybe | May 29 17:02 |
| MinceR | they run the systems they backdoored | May 29 17:02 |
| schestowitz | but they get government contracts regardless | May 29 17:02 |
| schestowitz | they don't have to "work" for that money | May 29 17:02 |
| techrights-bot | #Freenode is Not Dying, the Media is Just Lying • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/freenode-situation/ ䷉ #Techrights #Internet #IRC #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/29/freenode-situation/ | May 29 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Not Dying, the Media is Just Lying | Techrights | May 29 17:05 | |
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| techrights-bot | Today is the day https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/match/2029498--man-city-vs-chelsea/ | May 29 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Man. City-Chelsea | UEFA Champions League | UEFA.com | May 29 17:07 | |
| *psydroid is watching Holstein Kiel-FC Köln first | May 29 17:08 | |
| stormchaser3000 | random question: thoughts on OpenBSD? | May 29 17:08 |
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| MinceR | seems good | May 29 17:08 |
| MinceR | they have their own X fork and it runs as nonroot without *logind crap | May 29 17:09 |
| psydroid | I have it installed on a few of my older machines | May 29 17:09 |
| MinceR | it isn't "modern" | May 29 17:09 |
| stormchaser3000 | yeah, it seems to work quite well for server stuff | May 29 17:09 |
| psydroid | also because GNU/Linux distribution support has become spotty for those | May 29 17:09 |
| MinceR | and it needed the least fixing when i tried it, DragonBSD and NetBSD on a VM | May 29 17:09 |
| stormchaser3000 | although I have gotten it running well with an AMD graphics card | May 29 17:09 |
| MinceR | (i don't even consider FreeBSD as it's captured by suits and has a CoC) | May 29 17:09 |
| schestowitz | so do you | May 29 17:10 |
| stormchaser3000 | (I know, I hate using the binary blobs as well) | May 29 17:10 |
| schestowitz | "Touche" "DON'T TOUCH ME!" | May 29 17:10 |
| schestowitz | openbsd is ok if you need very little software | May 29 17:11 |
| schestowitz | seems popular for routers and firewalls and stuff | May 29 17:11 |
| stormchaser3000 | yeah, it works well for that | May 29 17:11 |
| schestowitz | if you don't want to startx just to run some application | May 29 17:11 |
| schestowitz | or use alpine | May 29 17:11 |
| schestowitz | I heard it's running on like 2 billion machines/devices | May 29 17:12 |
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| *schestowitz transcoding a video about ibm layoffs, 22 mins long | May 29 17:13 | |
| techrights-bot | Law firms love promoting illegal software patents, citing the corrupt EPO management with its kangaroo courts for 'support' https://www.mondaq.com/new-technology/1073800/ai-machine-learning-big-data-2021 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_Europe | May 29 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | AI, Machine Learning & Big Data 2021 - Technology - Malta | May 29 17:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in Europe - Techrights | May 29 17:15 | |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntRSa1Mcn5U | May 29 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The History Of Black Cats - YouTube | May 29 17:16 | |
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| techrights-bot | A quick update on #techrights site improvements and how to use/access/find them • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/2021-site-updates/ ䷉ #geminiProtocol #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/29/2021-site-updates/ | May 29 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Updates on Techrights Videos, Techrights IPFS, Techrights Gemini, Techrights Bulletins, and Techrights IRC | Techrights | May 29 17:18 | |
| techrights-bot | #buzzwords have helped rogue European agents and agencies shoehorn illegal #softwarepatents into the de facto #patent system. #swpats | May 29 17:19 |
| techrights-bot | Personally-motivated and overloaded statements would have people think that #Freenode is dying or dead; beware such misinformation, whose purpose is likely a self-fulfilling prophecy #propaganda war • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/freenode-situation/ ䷉ #Techrights #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/29/freenode-situation/ | May 29 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Not Dying, the Media is Just Lying | Techrights | May 29 17:21 | |
| techrights-bot | Absolutely horrible effect of #IBM #lobbying among others' https://www.mondaq.com/india/patent/1073900/ipab39s-ferid-allani-order-is-a-boost-to-software-patents-filed-in-india #swpats #india http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_India | May 29 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | IPAB's Ferid Allani Order Is A Boost To Software Patents Filed In India - Intellectual Property - India | May 29 17:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in India - Techrights | May 29 17:23 | |
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| techrights-bot | A #patent system so full of scams and scammers; but some are considered legal or "legalised". https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1073752/beware-of-firms-requesting-payment-for-registering-or-publishing-patent-applications-and-patents #patents | May 29 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Beware Of Firms Requesting Payment For Registering Or Publishing Patent Applications And Patents - Intellectual Property - UK | May 29 17:24 | |
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| techrights-bot | When #patent systems become so crooked, due to #lobbying if not #vendorcapture , that they prioritise #litigation over innovation, favouring monopolistic #cartels instead of actual scientists https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1073744/basing-a-patent-prosecution-highway-pph-request-on-an-allowed-uk-or-ep-patent-application | May 29 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Basing A Patent Prosecution Highway (PPH) Request On An Allowed UK Or EP Patent Application - Intellectual Property - UK | May 29 17:27 | |
| XRevan86 | https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/windows-package-manager-1-0/ https://keivan.io/the-day-appget-died/ | May 29 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devblogs.microsoft.com | Windows Package Manager 1.0 | Windows Command Line | May 29 17:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-keivan.io | The Day AppGet Died. | May 29 17:28 | |
| techrights-bot | "For me the opponent convincingly shows that a decision untainted by suspicions of partiality is impossible for this case. The reasons are multiple, but I would say that the fundamental one is the lack of independence of the (E)BoA." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622297169774#c6914628716711984636 | May 29 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat | May 29 17:29 | |
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| techrights-bot | "My guess is because they want more time to come up with a proper response to the partiality issues, which have genuinely been rushed through at the last moment." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622293012032#c4673206234811791897 http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/antonio-campinos-needs-to-step-down/ | May 29 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat | May 29 17:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President of the Boards of Appeal and His ‘Handler’ António Campinos Need to Step Down to Save the EPO | Techrights | May 29 17:30 | |
| techrights-bot | This LIE did NOT age well. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1kbp4bwn4bh0k/unitary-patent-stop-talking-start-planning "Managing Intellectual Property" = managing perceptions by spreading lies: http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/managing-perceptions-ip/ | May 29 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Unitary Patent: Stop talking, start planning | Managing Intellectual Property | May 29 17:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Managing Perceptions for the EPO’s Regime | Techrights | May 29 17:31 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: welcome to 1999 | May 29 17:31 |
| schestowitz | see you in 22 years, Microsoft | May 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | if you're still around, which I doubt | May 29 17:32 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, yeah, what schestowitz said | May 29 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | What happened in 1999? | May 29 17:57 |
| scientes | reading that blog post was like I was in the planning department for Windows ME | May 29 17:57 |
| schestowitz | virtual desktops... tick | May 29 17:58 |
| schestowitz | package manager... getting ther | May 29 17:58 |
| kingoffrance | i thought it was referring to how long package managers existed on other oses as a mainstream thing | May 29 17:58 |
| schestowitz | now the copypaste: techrights.org/2021/05/13/googlebombing-ebpf | May 29 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: That would be a lot longer. | May 29 17:58 |
| kingoffrance | with internet download | May 29 17:59 |
| scientes | the core Linux teams only know the MSDOS crashing windows, but while Microsoft finially released a reasonably stable UNIX system with Windows 2000, it old reached stores with Windows XP. | May 29 17:59 |
| kingoffrance | how much broadband before 1999? | May 29 17:59 |
| scientes | *only | May 29 17:59 |
| kingoffrance | for joe average desktop user | May 29 17:59 |
| kingoffrance | installshield, nullsoft, whatever ms stuff used, how many "installers" for windows? | May 29 18:00 |
| kingoffrance | or how many different varieties of "setup" programs? | May 29 18:01 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yes, LWN posted how Microsoft was going to run eBPF in Windows | May 29 18:01 |
| scientes | *in NT | May 29 18:01 |
| kingoffrance | there possibly was "windows update" for some drivers and patches | May 29 18:10 |
| kingoffrance | so i will give them that, assuming it existed in 1999 | May 29 18:10 |
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| kaniini | schestowitz: since you're basically offering a soapbox for rasengan i was thinking it might be more appropriate if rasengan sponsor the hosting for techrights | May 29 18:36 |
| kaniini | accordingly, i would like to discuss a transition plan :) | May 29 18:36 |
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| kaniini | anyway, please write to me (you have my email) ASAP outlining plans to move the site, thanks | May 29 18:44 |
| kaniini | otherwise, i will be turning the VLAN off on June 30. | May 29 18:45 |
| kaniini | toodles | May 29 18:45 |
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| psydroid | blackmail über alles | May 29 18:46 |
| CrystalMath | finally | May 29 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | i never wanted Ariadne hosting the site | May 29 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | i always warned you about her | May 29 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | this is a genuinely horrible person | May 29 19:03 |
| psydroid | I knew it too | May 29 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | i'm generally poor but i'm willing to donate $20 for techrights, if it's possible to do over western union | May 29 19:04 |
| kn\ | CrystalMath: She gave years of free hosting and she was nice about it. She could have just pulled the plug and the data wouldn't have been recovered | May 29 19:04 |
| psydroid | but I didn't want to say anything that might hurt techrights | May 29 19:04 |
| kn\ | But continue to run your mouth ok | May 29 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: a horrible person with restraint | May 29 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | that is true | May 29 19:05 |
| kn\ | How is Ariadne a horrible person? | May 29 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | she shilled against the GPL a lot | May 29 19:05 |
| kn\ | Ariadne has given so much to the IRC community and open source world | May 29 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | she called people names all the time with no explanation or reasoning | May 29 19:05 |
| kn\ | Do what? | May 29 19:05 |
| psydroid | I've realised for some time now that Ariadne is an open source and not a free software person | May 29 19:06 |
| psydroid | I don't want to say anything else | May 29 19:07 |
| kn\ | Explain | May 29 19:07 |
| CrystalMath | yeah i don't disagree with what kn\ said that she's pro-open source and that she implemented IRC software | May 29 19:07 |
| psydroid | there is nothing for me to explain | May 29 19:08 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: i do give credit where credit is due | May 29 19:08 |
| CrystalMath | but she also called me genocidal and other subtle microaggressions regarding my nationality | May 29 19:09 |
| kn\ | do you realize how much she has given to the open source/free software community right? | May 29 19:09 |
| kn\ | Show me the logs | May 29 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | she admits it | May 29 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | she's not one to lie | May 29 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | there are some good things about her indeed | May 29 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: i'll also mention that she retracted those insults against me | May 29 19:10 |
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| CrystalMath | and she only said them because she was angry at my support for rasengan | May 29 19:10 |
| kn\ | 22:10:16<Ariadne>he is lying | May 29 19:10 |
| kn\ | Like I said | May 29 19:10 |
| kn\ | show me the logs. | May 29 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | i don't have ANY logs ever | May 29 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | i simply do not log | May 29 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | i just know what i know and i'm justifying my opinion | May 29 19:11 |
| kn\ | No. You made up a lie and I am calling you on it. | May 29 19:12 |
| kn\ | Where is the log? | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | i didn't | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | i told you | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | no logs ever | May 29 19:12 |
| kn\ | if it was done on a public forum so there must be logs | May 29 19:12 |
| kn\ | waiting. | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | well she admitted it during the #fsf meeting | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | there must be logs of that | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | oh! wait! | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | she admitted it here too | May 29 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | techrights is logged | May 29 19:13 |
| kn\ | 22:10:36<Ariadne>what i said is that he writes fan fiction about all humans dying | May 29 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | i don't :P | May 29 19:14 |
| samiamsam | horrible people like to donate money to people with strings attached because it's hard for horrible people to make attachments based on their non-financial behaviors | May 29 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | i in fact never wrote any piece of fanfiction | May 29 19:14 |
| kn\ | 2:10:58<Ariadne>he supports genocide, in the context of "mass human death" | May 29 19:14 |
| kn\ | 22:11:10<Ariadne>and he will confirm that if you do not use the genocide word | May 29 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | i guess she is referring to my anti-natalism? | May 29 19:14 |
| kn\ | 22:14:26<Ariadne>demon: yes, i misspoke and misrepresented them as genocidal, when in reality, what i meant is that he supports killing *all* humans indiscriminately | May 29 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | that's not true | May 29 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | VHEMT is about anti-natalism | May 29 19:15 |
| CrystalMath | it's about humans not being born, voluntarily | May 29 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | I can't tell if I eat something or this discussion is inducing | May 29 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | * ate | May 29 19:15 |
| kn\ | CrystalMath: Are you the type that supports Trump and beliefs everything he says? | May 29 19:15 |
| kn\ | Yes or no | May 29 19:15 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: no, but i did think he was better than some other options | May 29 19:16 |
| CrystalMath | you can find on techrights logs that i both said "i hope he wins" and "he's just an idiot" | May 29 19:16 |
| CrystalMath | this is because i hope for the end of american imperialism | May 29 19:16 |
| kn\ | This is where I end the conversation | May 29 19:17 |
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| kn\ | You wish to see America burn basically | May 29 19:17 |
| kn\ | Yeah. You're a fucking retard | May 29 19:17 |
| psydroid | why not? | May 29 19:17 |
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| XRevan86 | kn\: I saw him say it practically word-for-word. | May 29 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: america burned my country, i want that to never happen to any country ever again | May 29 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: what? | May 29 19:17 |
| psydroid | lol | May 29 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That ye wish to see the US burn | May 29 19:18 |
| CrystalMath | well not literally | May 29 19:18 |
| XRevan86 | in the closest figurative sense | May 29 19:18 |
| CrystalMath | but in the sense of no longer being on the top of the world, yes | May 29 19:18 |
| psydroid | Madeleine Albright? | May 29 19:18 |
| CrystalMath | that requires a lot of dropping | May 29 19:19 |
| CrystalMath | since it's so high up now | May 29 19:19 |
| CrystalMath | so yeah in a figurative sense | May 29 19:19 |
| psydroid | anyway, the US will burn on its own | May 29 19:19 |
| psydroid | no help needed | May 29 19:19 |
| kingoffrance | lincoln basically said that | May 29 19:20 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: but when i said america burned my country i mean that in a very literal sense | May 29 19:20 |
| AdmFubar | https://arstechnica.com/?p=1768316 | May 29 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Covert channel in Apple’s M1 is mostly harmless, but it sure is interesting | Ars Technica | May 29 19:21 | |
| psydroid | I know | May 29 19:21 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: This is not war, ye have no right to support sabotage. | May 29 19:21 |
| CrystalMath | what sabotage? | May 29 19:21 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Something like Trump. | May 29 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | i was going by the fact that Trump started no wars | May 29 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | that should be obvious | May 29 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | why is it wrong to support a candidate that will not commit horrible atrocities across the globe? | May 29 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | when you know that another one will | May 29 19:23 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The internal politics aspect is what's important to the US citizens. And the external politics aspect is more complicated than that. | May 29 19:23 |
| CrystalMath | i don't believe it is | May 29 19:23 |
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| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Like Ukraine is very glad that Trump is gone. | May 29 19:23 |
| CrystalMath | yes because they want to kill people and impose their rule | May 29 19:23 |
| CrystalMath | i'm against that | May 29 19:23 |
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| XRevan86 | they waited for Trump to go to reassert themselves | May 29 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | exactly, which is why i supported Trump | May 29 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | that's just another very good reason to support him | May 29 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | they shelled Donbass and killed a farmer not too long ago | May 29 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | with Trump maybe that would have been prevented | May 29 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | so the external politics is really not complicated, Trump is the choice of "america go home" | May 29 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | which is what i support | May 29 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | the internal politics are complicated though | May 29 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: https://youtu.be/39mBogAVAQc?t=44 | May 29 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gangs of New York (9/12) Movie CLIP - Sorry Looking Pelt (2002) HD - YouTube | May 29 19:27 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: And they also crucified an innocent boy? | May 29 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | i don't really listen to the news | May 29 19:31 |
| CrystalMath | only sometimes i get these sad news of aggressors killing innocent people | May 29 19:31 |
| CrystalMath | more often than not, the US is the initiator of the aggression | May 29 19:32 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Only occastionally do I plug in Russia-24 to see what's happening in the world, right? | May 29 19:32 |
| CrystalMath | i think that if you were to ask most of the world they will confirm that the US is the initiator of aggression | May 29 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | even a lot of americans will confirm it | May 29 19:33 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Don't slide away from the topic, where the heck did ye get that information? | May 29 19:35 |
| CrystalMath | my mom told me about it i think | May 29 19:35 |
| cybrNaut | normally it's safe to say the US is the initiator of aggression when the commander in chief is a republican, but I guess Obama was an exception with all the drone strikes he did | May 29 19:35 |
| *XRevan86 is done for the day. | May 29 19:36 | |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: it may have also been on the news here | May 29 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | i don't know | May 29 19:36 |
| cybrNaut | and Trump is exceptionally not aggressive in this regard | May 29 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut: that is correct, but i still wish he had withdrawn from Yemen more decisively | May 29 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | and also that he pardoned Assange | May 29 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | and completely withdrawn from Syria and Iraq | May 29 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | So, there's a schism, Ariadne is the people that go, and CrystalMath is the people that stay. Great. | May 29 19:37 |
| cybrNaut | although you must give Trump credit for all the violence he provokes not just what's ordered | May 29 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut: violence isn't god | May 29 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | *good | May 29 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: ^ | May 29 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | the impression i got is that schestowitz, MinceR, psydroid, and myself are all anti-imperialist | May 29 19:38 |
| XRevan86 | "and also that he pardoned Assange" – sure did | May 29 19:38 |
| cybrNaut | Trump is at fault for copious violence within the US, like Asians getting attacked at random | May 29 19:39 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: that was the subjuctive | May 29 19:39 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i wish that he... | May 29 19:39 |
| CrystalMath | those were my wishes, but they didn't come true | May 29 19:39 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut: and yes that internal stuff was sad, although idk how much was he to blame | May 29 19:40 |
| CrystalMath | i don't really know much about that, and i don't see how could i know? | May 29 19:40 |
| MinceR | Thought for the day: Violence solves everything. | May 29 19:40 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: why? | May 29 19:40 |
| cybrNaut | Trump repeatedly called it the "china virus" | May 29 19:40 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut: hmm, i forgot about that... | May 29 19:41 |
| CrystalMath | and you're saying idiots used to be racist against the chinese? | May 29 19:41 |
| CrystalMath | *used it to | May 29 19:41 |
| cybrNaut | Trump's followers blindly go along with what he says | May 29 19:41 |
| CrystalMath | even injecting bleach i suppose | May 29 19:41 |
| MinceR | 29 200437 < kn\> CrystalMath: She gave years of free hosting and she was nice about it. | May 29 19:42 |
| MinceR | as long as she liked the message | May 29 19:42 |
| CrystalMath | right, she wasn't always nice about it | May 29 19:42 |
| CrystalMath | i remember when she wanted the whole thing set +m | May 29 19:42 |
| psydroid | she threatened to pull the plug a few times before | May 29 19:42 |
| CrystalMath | yes | May 29 19:42 |
| CrystalMath | that is NOT nice | May 29 19:42 |
| psydroid | it is not nice AT ALL | May 29 19:43 |
| CrystalMath | i always got a bad impression with her, and always whenever some bad things happened her name was on the wrong side | May 29 19:43 |
| CrystalMath | her name appears on the anti-RMS letter | May 29 19:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How weird. | May 29 19:43 |
| CrystalMath | her nick appears in the log about rewriting busybox as MIT | May 29 19:43 |
| MinceR | she's been allegedly talking about getting her signature removed from there for ages | May 29 19:43 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: yeah and never comes around to doing that | May 29 19:43 |
| MinceR | and yet it's still there | May 29 19:43 |
| psydroid | manipulation tactics | May 29 19:44 |
| MinceR | when we don't fawn over the network started by her SJW friends, she's offended. | May 29 19:44 |
| CrystalMath | and then she became freenode staff only to quit the next day | May 29 19:44 |
| CrystalMath | and said some things to "cancel" other staff | May 29 19:45 |
| MinceR | 26 025514 < c> Ariadne: why did you become staff for a day | May 29 19:45 |
| MinceR | 26 025520 < Ariadne> c: the lulz | May 29 19:45 |
| *psydroid is allergic to "nice" people | May 29 19:45 | |
| psydroid | hmm | May 29 19:46 |
| MinceR | i guess the next big thing is cancelling people for connecting to the "wrong" network | May 29 19:46 |
| psydroid | I was contacted by someone a few days ago to ask if my channels had already "moved over" | May 29 19:47 |
| psydroid | as if that is some kind of liberation | May 29 19:47 |
| CrystalMath | rasengan: some people are now saying that you are being sued over freenode, is this true? | May 29 19:54 |
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| rasengan | CrystalMath: Not sure, I haven't been served anything. It could be true? ;) Anyone can sue for anything. Doesn't mean much. | May 29 20:06 |
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| CrystalMath | okay, thank you for your answer | May 29 20:08 |
| rasengan | CrystalMath: Thank you for the heads up! | May 29 20:08 |
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| CrystalMath | the thing that i saw is: <RasAlGhoul> So apparently Lee is getting sued now | May 29 20:09 |
| psydroid | RasulAlShaytan | May 29 20:15 |
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| *psydroid finds himself in the middle of a nasty misinformation campaign not unlike a jihad | May 29 20:22 | |
| AdmFubar | laters all | May 29 20:40 |
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| MinceR | CrystalMath: i missed your question about "Violence solves everything" | May 29 20:50 |
| MinceR | https://extraheresy.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Divination | May 29 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-extraheresy.fandom.com | Imperial Divination | Extra Heresy Wiki | Fandom | May 29 20:50 | |
| MinceR | see also: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Thought_for_the_day | May 29 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wh40k.lexicanum.com | Thought for the day - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum | May 29 20:51 | |
| CrystalMath | i know thought for the day | May 29 20:51 |
| kingoffrance | Only the insane have strength enough to prosper. Only those who prosper may judge what is sane.” Begin play with 2 Insanity Points. lol | May 29 20:55 |
| MinceR | :) | May 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz | wow, I am being threatened with de-platforming for - gasp - staying in the IRC network where we've been since 2008 | May 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | I've contacted kaniini | May 29 21:12 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i'll donate at least 20 GBP to techrights | May 29 21:12 |
| CrystalMath | if we all did it | May 29 21:13 |
| CrystalMath | you should have enough | May 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | that's not the point... | May 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | and kaniini did a lot for us, I don't think negativity will solve it | May 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe impulsive, misunderstanding, heat of the moment | May 29 21:13 |
| CrystalMath | i think severing ties with that person is a good idea | May 29 21:13 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: bowing down to tyrants is never the answer | May 29 21:14 |
| CrystalMath | it was never the answer for techrights before | May 29 21:14 |
| CrystalMath | except in the case of this one Ariadne person | May 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | that only started a few months ago | May 29 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | when Microsoft made a job offer | May 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | after 2.5 years almost | May 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | when we were about to start an explosive new series about Microsoft | May 29 21:15 |
| schestowitz | kaniini moved to Seattle soon and says it's nothing to do with Microsoft | May 29 21:15 |
| CrystalMath | i think it's important to get new proper hosting and never bow down to tyrants | May 29 21:15 |
| schestowitz | hosting is not cheap | May 29 21:15 |
| CrystalMath | how much would be required? | May 29 21:15 |
| schestowitz | it's like 10k pounds for 3 years | May 29 21:16 |
| CrystalMath | hmm, must be a lot of bandwidth | May 29 21:16 |
| MinceR | i'm guessing the LF also "has nothing to do with microsoft" | May 29 21:16 |
| schestowitz | LF pays Alpine now | May 29 21:16 |
| schestowitz | but that's not the point | May 29 21:16 |
| CrystalMath | strangely i have never faced such high hosting prives | May 29 21:16 |
| CrystalMath | *prices | May 29 21:16 |
| schestowitz | let me see if I can sort this out | May 29 21:16 |
| CrystalMath | how large is techrights? | May 29 21:16 |
| CrystalMath | what are the requirements? | May 29 21:16 |
| schestowitz | I am guessing that other network puts pressure on kaniini | May 29 21:16 |
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| CrystalMath | no, kaniini IS a part of the pressure | May 29 21:17 |
| schestowitz | because they don't like another site confronting their propaganda | May 29 21:17 |
| CrystalMath | a part of the oppression | May 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | she might just be a tool | May 29 21:17 |
| schestowitz | and point the finger to say, it's your fault! do something | May 29 21:17 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▇▆▇▆▆▆▄▃▅▇▄▇▅▃▆▆▄▅▅▅▃▅▅▆▅▇▇▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 28.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▂▃▂▃▁▁▃▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 7.31▕ swarm size (avg): 233.93 ⟲ | May 29 21:17 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: no i don't think so tbh | May 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | gates, ballmer and nadella pulled the trigger | May 29 21:17 |
| CrystalMath | ignore me at your own peril | May 29 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | it's not like a little shared account and simile migration | May 29 21:18 |
| CrystalMath | i would need to know the storage, bandwidth, and software requirements to get quotes on how much this will cost | May 29 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | My opinion is that CrystalMath is a very categorical person that prefers shallow ideological stamps over looking into things. | May 29 21:19 |
| MinceR | we could split the site into an archive that could be replicated over bittorrent (and periodically updated, or new archives added, perhaps yearly) and a smaller, more easily mirrored bit that's always up-to-date | May 29 21:21 |
| CrystalMath | it's nice to have an http website and a domain | May 29 21:23 |
| MinceR | it is, but if it isn't massive, there could be multiple mirrors run by multiple people | May 29 21:23 |
| MinceR | and then nobody can say "i'll pull the plug if you post something my employer doesn't like" | May 29 21:23 |
| CrystalMath | yes | May 29 21:24 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I finally did the air filter on the car. | May 29 21:26 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Someone managed to break one of the retention clips off somewhere along the way but the other one seems to hold it down well enough to seal. | May 29 21:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | So as long as I don't lose the other one I shouldn't ever need a new airbox. | May 29 21:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Don't you wonder how people manage to do this over such an easy job? | May 29 21:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I took my phone's flashlight and looked in there to make sure there weren't any gaps. | May 29 21:28 |
| MinceR | if the non-archive part of the site is small enough, we might even be able to host it on ZeroNet | May 29 21:28 |
| BaronVladimirHar | On my Taurus, someone at Walmart broke the entire airbox to the point where I ended up driving out to the junkyard and swapping it out with one I pulled off another Taurus for $10. | May 29 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | I am waiting for reply from kaniini | May 29 21:40 |
| schestowitz | (email) | May 29 21:40 |
| schestowitz | as I think this boils down, partly, to a misunderstanding | May 29 21:40 |
| CrystalMath | how so? | May 29 21:40 |
| schestowitz | however this is about the third time in 3 months we get threatened like this | May 29 21:40 |
| schestowitz | so on average about once a month | May 29 21:40 |
| schestowitz | based on those 3 grounds | May 29 21:41 |
| CrystalMath | i have never seen Ariadne have any comprehension errors | May 29 21:41 |
| schestowitz | 1) you cannot reprint pocock | May 29 21:41 |
| schestowitz | in effect cancelling a person | May 29 21:41 |
| CrystalMath | she understands perfectly what she's saying | May 29 21:41 |
| schestowitz | 2) you must ban person x | May 29 21:41 |
| schestowitz | again canceling a person | May 29 21:41 |
| CrystalMath | yes, and it's destroying Techrights' free speech | May 29 21:41 |
| schestowitz | 3) you cannot condemn a new irc network as being a threat to free speech | May 29 21:41 |
| CrystalMath | it's destroying Techrights | May 29 21:41 |
| schestowitz | there is one troll in IRC | May 29 21:42 |
| schestowitz | playing games behind the scenes | May 29 21:42 |
| schestowitz | with the sole goal of canceling us; | May 29 21:42 |
| schestowitz | so there's a coordinated campaign to neuter the site for quite some time | May 29 21:42 |
| CrystalMath | well, it's not me, i have nothing behind the scenes | May 29 21:42 |
| schestowitz | I cannot self-host it all from home | May 29 21:43 |
| schestowitz | even if I did, then my ISP would be a "master" | May 29 21:43 |
| schestowitz | so here we are being treated like "GAB" or something | May 29 21:43 |
| schestowitz | even though we're progressive-leaning | May 29 21:43 |
| schestowitz | but not corporations-friendly enough | May 29 21:43 |
| MinceR | obviously, progressive-leaning is not enough | May 29 21:44 |
| MinceR | when daddy nadella or jimmy allowhurst says RMS is to be cancelled, you must join the choir | May 29 21:44 |
| CrystalMath | i think it's possible to find cheap hosting that will be adequate with maybe just 1k GBP a year | May 29 21:45 |
| CrystalMath | if we all gave 50 GBP that's a whole year's worth | May 29 21:45 |
| CrystalMath | tbh techrights has improved me as a person, i know that this sounds strange, but the first time i came here i wasn't really very knowledgeable about political topics, my mind was a mess about it | May 29 21:46 |
| CrystalMath | it's probably still a mess, but somewhat sorted out | May 29 21:47 |
| schestowitz | but then we may depend on donors | May 29 21:48 |
| schestowitz | same issue FSF had | May 29 21:48 |
| schestowitz | where you need to please funding source | May 29 21:48 |
| schestowitz | my salary is very small | May 29 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Is your mum a reader too? | May 29 21:48 |
| schestowitz | hosting would thus be a large portion of it | May 29 21:48 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: of techrights? no | May 29 21:48 |
| CrystalMath | but possible of russia today | May 29 21:48 |
| CrystalMath | *possibly | May 29 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | Вероятность сего крайне высока, я бы сказал. | May 29 21:49 |
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| CrystalMath | schestowitz: you could maybe ask readers to chip in? | May 29 21:50 |
| schestowitz | here's the other thing | May 29 21:51 |
| schestowitz | many webhosts can be extorted too if we leak something | May 29 21:51 |
| schestowitz | so it helps when the host is with our cause | May 29 21:51 |
| schestowitz | just taking random webhosts may not mean they stay with us | May 29 21:51 |
| schestowitz | in 2008 we came under DDOS attacks | May 29 21:51 |
| schestowitz | when we still had shared hosting | May 29 21:52 |
| CrystalMath | if you host from home, you could still maybe ask for readers to chip in, and we can still help you financially | May 29 21:52 |
| schestowitz | the webhost wanted nothing to do with those attacks so pushed us out instead of dealing with the DDOS | May 29 21:52 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: I don't live in a datacentre | May 29 21:52 |
| schestowitz | this past week we did about 3mb/sec based on apachelog | May 29 21:52 |
| CrystalMath | how big is techrights? | May 29 21:52 |
| CrystalMath | also how much bandwidth does it get? | May 29 21:54 |
| CrystalMath | oh, you answered that one | May 29 21:54 |
| CrystalMath | i missed the message | May 29 21:54 |
| CrystalMath | 3 MB/s is tbh not that much | May 29 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | ok, I got a reply | May 29 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | > "freenode" removed nickname and channel registration counts from the services MOTD, after the numbers showed about 2,000 NickServ accounts being deleted as users migrate off freenode. The change was made at 8PM UTC on 2021-05-28. | May 29 21:59 |
| schestowitz | what's the command for DM? | May 29 21:59 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: if you recall there was a lot of nonsense regarding personal data | May 29 22:00 |
| CrystalMath | too many fools dropped their account already back then | May 29 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: This is two days ago. | May 29 22:01 |
| schestowitz | question: | May 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | what if we self-host IRC to a evade this whole situation? | May 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | we really should control IRC presence at DNS level | May 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | we talked about this a year ago | May 29 22:17 |
| MinceR | sounds like a good idea but consider DDoS | May 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | I just want to write article | May 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | not deal with the politics | May 29 22:18 |
| MinceR | i know a network that would probably welcome TR though | May 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: for a one-channel ircd? | May 29 22:18 |
| MinceR | TR has enemies | May 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | yes, but... | May 29 22:18 |
| MinceR | they DDoS the website | May 29 22:18 |
| MinceR | why would they not DDoS the ircd? | May 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | but IRC? | May 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | we're not THAT big | May 29 22:18 |
| MinceR | we could also try a backup group chat on Tox over Tor or RetroShare over Tor :> | May 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | if we have irc.techrights.org we won't need to deal with all this tribalism | May 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | but then we need to admin and babysit an IRC server side/daemon | May 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's too 'guru' | May 29 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But what if what set Ariadne off is the Libera criticism that ye've wrote yesterday? | May 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | we're not considering Libera | May 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I didn't trust them a month ago | May 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | because of things I had heard | May 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | with our own irc server we control dns, except root dns | May 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | this is not new | May 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | we spoke about it last year | May 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | what are people's thoughts? | May 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | this isn't even picking a side | May 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | it's about becoming more self-reliant | May 29 22:22 |
| MinceR | we'd need hardware | May 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | only one channel | May 29 22:22 |
| MinceR | and i have _some_ knowledge of irc operation, but i'm still a newbie at it | May 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | that's good | May 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe I can grant you access at some point | May 29 22:23 |
| rasengan | I think it makes sense for techrights to run it's own IRC server and when referring to the chat community refer to the irc.techrights.org server for sure. That said, whether or not techrights links to another network... maybe might be worth doing a pro and con discussion. | May 29 22:24 |
| schestowitz | rasengan: we don't need to leave | May 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | but rather to have self-hosting, as we planned last year for IRC | May 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | this gives us a push to press on and have also a self-hosted one | May 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | rasengan: the web site can link to both | May 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | or recommend self-hosting | May 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | can fuse together logs | May 29 22:26 |
| rasengan | I agree it probably makes sense to keep this community open as well. I think in the end though the way things are going in this world - all this cancel culture and deplatform culture - is going to lead to a rebirth of the decentralized internet. | May 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | remember we preach self-hosting | May 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | and dweb | May 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | + | May 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | like ipfs etc. | May 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | nothing new | May 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | so it would be right to also walk the walk | May 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to choose sides and stuff | May 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | I just want to expose EPO corruption etc. | May 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | we can use ophion | May 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | microsoft/dehomag drones claim you've already a picked a side :> | May 29 22:28 |
| schestowitz | this way it would work across networks | May 29 22:28 |
| schestowitz | like matrix in a sense... | May 29 22:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't care what they say... | May 29 22:28 |
| rasengan | +1 | May 29 22:28 |
| rasengan | (re walk the walk) | May 29 22:28 |
| schestowitz | maybe we'll end up with more robust IRC world at the end | May 29 22:30 |
| schestowitz | IRC wins | May 29 22:30 |
| schestowitz | to be clear, I'm not picking sides | May 29 22:30 |
| schestowitz | we always try to do technical work to show the way to a more free Internet | May 29 22:30 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: why would you leave freenode though? | May 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz | didn't say I would | May 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz | I can fuse logs together | May 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz | and it would federate across networks, I think | May 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz | I have tomorrow free mostly | May 29 22:31 |
| CrystalMath | libreboot is going to roll its own IRC server | May 29 22:31 |
| CrystalMath | not software, i mean, but like, become self-hosted | May 29 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | it will use unrealircd | May 29 22:32 |
| schestowitz | freenode is still 'the hub' | May 29 22:33 |
| schestowitz | we don't intend to replace but strive to decentralise | May 29 22:33 |
| schestowitz | this is what rasengan wanted tomaw to help him do | May 29 22:33 |
| schestowitz | before it boiled over | May 29 22:33 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: what about hosting everything else? | May 29 22:33 |
| schestowitz | we discussed this earlier | May 29 22:34 |
| CrystalMath | if Ariadne is hosting your IRC server, you've only even more deeply entrenched the problem | May 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 29 22:39 |
| CrystalMath | and yes, i genuinely believe her to be a problem, it's nothing personal... i'm willing to forgive and forget everything she personally said bad to me, but she is running techrights into the ground with these demands | May 29 22:39 |
| CrystalMath | maybe i could set up a techrights mirror myself | May 29 22:40 |
| CrystalMath | is all the content legal to copy? | May 29 22:40 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: that's not how I see it | May 29 22:44 |
| CrystalMath | personally i would rather get microsoft hosting than ariadne hosting, they're way more impartial | May 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | let me explain something | May 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | in 2018 tessier had many difficulties | May 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | and had to shut down his hosting busines | May 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | I was VERY thankful for all the help he gave us! Very! | May 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Like waking up at night | May 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | we had to rush for contongencies | May 29 22:45 |
| schestowitz | tessier saved us from a fussy commericial webhost that didn't want to confront ddos | May 29 22:45 |
| schestowitz | instead treating us like shit (that webhost) | May 29 22:45 |
| schestowitz | for over 2 years (about 2.5) ariadne moved even from one machine to the next to keep the site going | May 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | so it would be unfair to discount all this | May 29 22:46 |
| CrystalMath | i really don't see the difference between ariadne and a fussy commercial webhost | May 29 22:47 |
| CrystalMath | why do you care who is trying to destroy your website? | May 29 22:47 |
| CrystalMath | it shouldn't matter - nobody should be able to do this | May 29 22:47 |
| CrystalMath | what about DDoS-Guard? | May 29 22:48 |
| MinceR | human society is like that | May 29 22:48 |
| MinceR | we have centralized systems (like DNS) | May 29 22:49 |
| MinceR | we put the worst sociopaths in positions of political power | May 29 22:49 |
| MinceR | and then we wonder why everything is so shitty | May 29 22:49 |
| CrystalMath | https://ddos-guard.net/en/store/hosting | May 29 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ddos-guard.net | DDoS Protected Hosting | Anti-DDoS Web Hosting | May 29 22:49 | |
| CrystalMath | $50 monthly, i could maybe even give you $10 monthly alone | May 29 22:49 |
| schestowitz | you then depend on yet another private company | May 29 22:50 |
| CrystalMath | and then if MinceR and a few more chip in, it could even be free for you | May 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | we do our own ddos protection | May 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | and we wrote scripts | May 29 22:50 |
| CrystalMath | DDoS-Guard is also hosting | May 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | they're in our SELF-HOSTED git | May 29 22:50 |
| CrystalMath | it hosts parler and gab | May 29 22:50 |
| MinceR | standing on more legs could help | May 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | if I wanted no 'issues', clownflare | May 29 22:50 |
| MinceR | that way if the redmond and/or armonk mafia takes down one host, we have time to replace it while others keep going | May 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | and then one publicly traded company has me by the balls | May 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I am not an ISP | May 29 22:51 |
| MinceR | we could have one mirror behind crimeflare if we wanted | May 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | my home is no a datacentre | May 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | *not | May 29 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: what about using DDoS-Guard? this company is well known for free speech | May 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | PP Founder in Sweden used to self-host his site | May 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | from home | May 29 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | they hosted 8chan even, i think? | May 29 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | or not | May 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | and sometimes it would be down FOR DAYS | May 29 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | no, not 8chan | May 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | due to his ISP | May 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | he wrote about it | May 29 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | but they host parler, and gab | May 29 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | 30 GB of space | May 29 22:52 |
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| schestowitz | [22:51] <CrystalMath> but they host parler, and gab | May 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | that's a badge of endorsement? | May 29 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | if they host that, they're sure to host this | May 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | they participated in insurrection planning | May 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | in defiance of a vote | May 29 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | they're free speech | May 29 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | but my point here was, if they're willing to host even that | May 29 22:54 |
| CrystalMath | techrights won't be a problem at all | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | they're another company you're at the mercy of | May 29 22:54 |
| CrystalMath | but they never put pressure | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I already have enough grief with BT | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | but BT is not hosting the www | May 29 22:54 |
| MinceR | unless they pick their clients on the basis of politics | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | it hosts gemini and ipfs node for us | May 29 22:54 |
| CrystalMath | really, i think DDoS-Guard is a company you can trust | May 29 22:54 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i don't think so | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | no | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | it can also go under | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | gov action | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | financial issus | May 29 22:54 |
| CrystalMath | it's hosted in russia | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | and so on | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | not a positive | May 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | will play into the 'TECHRIGHTS IS RUSSIA INTEL UNDERMINING EPO" card | May 29 22:55 |
| CrystalMath | then remind me, why is Snowden there? | May 29 22:55 |
| schestowitz | because he's useful to putler | May 29 22:55 |
| schestowitz | he'll keep him out when he's no longer useful to him | May 29 22:55 |
| MinceR | and if TR isn't useful to putler, our site might just get taken down | May 29 22:55 |
| schestowitz | or when he can 'exchange prisoners" (political) | May 29 22:55 |
| schestowitz | like Moerno did with Julian Assange | May 29 22:55 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i don't think so, you're paying them | May 29 22:55 |
| CrystalMath | they're like any other hosting company | May 29 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Russia shuts down many services | May 29 22:56 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: i'm pretty sure non-government news outfits in russia also pay for their hosting | May 29 22:56 |
| CrystalMath | the whole point of DDoS-Guard is that they should be impartial | May 29 22:56 |
| MinceR | and sometimes they get a bit of extra polonium in their tea, or novichok | May 29 22:56 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, I see CrystalMath is not aware of what's going on in the Internet department in Russia. | May 29 22:57 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: hmm | May 29 22:57 |
| CrystalMath | what happened? | May 29 22:57 |
| samiamsam | did anyone ever look at ovh | May 29 22:57 |
| schestowitz | it went on fire | May 29 22:57 |
| samiamsam | yes it did | May 29 22:57 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 22:57 |
| schestowitz | and it's not cheap | May 29 22:57 |
| samiamsam | but none of my servers were affected | May 29 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I looked into it when tessier shut down his DC/co-loco | May 29 22:57 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The latest news? | May 29 22:58 |
| samiamsam | they have cheap virtual servers | May 29 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: They're going after YouTube now. | May 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <XRevan86> Oh, I see CrystalMath is not aware of what's going on in the Internet department in Russia. | May 29 22:58 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: yes, i don't know | May 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | true | May 29 22:58 |
| samiamsam | you can get multiple virtual servers in locations around the world to guard against fires | May 29 22:58 |
| CrystalMath | i am not aware, indeed | May 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | the clown | May 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | data clown | May 29 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/05/24/russia-s-censorship-agency-threatens-to-throttle-google | May 29 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 29 22:58 | |
| MinceR | they're also propping up lukashenka | May 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | the clown of data | May 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | smoke | May 29 22:58 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: hmm | May 29 22:58 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: well i hate google :P | May 29 22:58 |
| samiamsam | is there anything politically wrong with ovh | May 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | it's expensive | May 29 22:59 |
| schestowitz | for starters | May 29 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Enema of my enema is my frend | May 29 22:59 |
| schestowitz | my salary is 26.5k a yeay | May 29 22:59 |
| samiamsam | i duno, the virtual servers are actually as cheap as the market rate | May 29 22:59 |
| schestowitz | and I have food, rent expenses etc. | May 29 22:59 |
| samiamsam | are you only looking at dedicated | May 29 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Notice the reasons for all of this. It's quite literally unwanted content. | May 29 22:59 |
| samiamsam | they have this kimsufi option for dedicated but it's always sold out (i have one though) | May 29 22:59 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: how is it expensive? | May 29 22:59 |
| CrystalMath | the professional plan is 250 GB | May 29 23:00 |
| CrystalMath | only $7/mo | May 29 23:00 |
| schestowitz | that's about as much as we use (disk space) | May 29 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | some call this censorship, but not I, as I don't want to be charged for wrongfully saying that Russia has censorship | May 29 23:00 |
| schestowitz | remember they can change the pricing, limit b/w etc. | May 29 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | there are laws against such lies, don't ye know | May 29 23:00 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: okay then the performance plan, 500 GB | May 29 23:00 |
| samiamsam | their pricing goes gradually down over time | May 29 23:00 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: $12/mo | May 29 23:00 |
| samiamsam | of course, you have to be prepared to switch isps regardless of anything | May 29 23:01 |
| CrystalMath | i was gonna offer you that much of a share for DDoS-Guard.... | May 29 23:01 |
| MinceR | 250 GB seems to be feasible to share over bittorrent as an archive | May 29 23:01 |
| CrystalMath | this is super cheap | May 29 23:01 |
| MinceR | how much does it grow per year? | May 29 23:01 |
| CrystalMath | this is amazingly cheap | May 29 23:01 |
| samiamsam | ya that's what i thought it was | May 29 23:02 |
| CrystalMath | i mean i offered to literally pay for $10 of the $50/mo for DDoS-guard, which is not even suitable for this | May 29 23:02 |
| CrystalMath | and $10 is enough for the maximum plan of OVH | May 29 23:02 |
| CrystalMath | so literally, if the fans of techrights just chip in $2/mo, it can be free for schestowitz | May 29 23:02 |
| XRevan86 | They say Startpage.com now requires JS. | May 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: it's French | May 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | we expose corruption in France | May 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | France has ridiculous | May 29 23:03 |
| CrystalMath | is it not legal to expose corruption in france in france? | May 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | RTbF, hate speech etc. | May 29 23:03 |
| samiamsam | as an english speaker you will rent a server in the data center in canada | May 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | I exposed some powerful french people in connection to EPO | May 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | and France regime (Macron) won't favour my side | May 29 23:04 |
| samiamsam | i don't think france is relevant just because the owner of the international operation is french | May 29 23:04 |
| schestowitz | we expose Breton, Macron, the french rothschilds (on patents).. | May 29 23:04 |
| samiamsam | anyway it's always some nation | May 29 23:05 |
| samiamsam | i think ovh can handle the ddos though | May 29 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | yeah they include DDoS protection in the plan | May 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | anyway, you suggest I rely on for-profit corporation | May 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | heck, Microsoft can buy them! | May 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | to turn their DC into "Azure" | May 29 23:06 |
| CrystalMath | and it would still be more trustworthy than that snake, Ariadne | May 29 23:06 |
| samiamsam | i'm not suggesting it, i thought you were looking to choose one | May 29 23:06 |
| MinceR | who's going to offer hosting in a DC without a for-profit corporation being involved? | May 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | ariadne did so much for us | May 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | you cannot overlook the positives completely (but you do, CrystalMath) | May 29 23:06 |
| rasengan | I agree, Ariadne has lots of positive qualities. | May 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the networks are private | May 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | if eXoDOS can be spread as a 500-something GB torrent, so can our site archive :> | May 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | ariadne saved our arse many times | May 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | you can spread yourself TOO thin | May 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | freenode.net is clownflare | May 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | what is CF shareholders put pressure to de-platform? | May 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | or if ShitHub deplatformed freenode staff? | May 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | that's why we self-host git | May 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | and nvideos | May 29 23:08 |
| rasengan | self-host git++ | May 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | I can say "shit" and "fuck" without Google sending me emails threatening me for producing some youtube "content" | May 29 23:09 |
| samiamsam | maybe you gotta treat the hosts as disposable and deal with that when it comes | May 29 23:10 |
| MinceR | + | May 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | samiamsam: that's one approach | May 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | bear in mind, I have many bad experiences | May 29 23:10 |
| MinceR | one of the hosts could be a Tor hidden service and/or I2P site | May 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | for 15 years | May 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | inc. death threats | May 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather depend on a friend than a corporation | May 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | it's easier to negotiate with people than private firms | May 29 23:11 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i have not seen google attempt to deplatform freenode, i've only seen Ariadne attempt to push commits into IRC clients to state that freenode is a dangerous network | May 29 23:11 |
| CrystalMath | as much as i hate google, i would rather give them the benefit of the doubt, than someone who would be clearly going against my values | May 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | any network you don't control is fundamentally a "risk" | May 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | we have a cabal of trusted people | May 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR has been here since nearly the very start | May 29 23:12 |
| CrystalMath | freenode is currently under the control of good people | May 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | people have emotions, corporations don't | May 29 23:13 |
| CrystalMath | and there is zero reason to distrust it | May 29 23:13 |
| CrystalMath | "corporations are people, my friend" | May 29 23:13 |
| CrystalMath | :P | May 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | freenode was ALWAYS a mixed bag | May 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | inc. tomaw | May 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | depends on which volunteer speaks to you | May 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | to me, they were all strangers | May 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | and they don't give much of a flying f about techrights | May 29 23:13 |
| CrystalMath | i find it really sad that you would compromise your beliefs over any hosting service | May 29 23:13 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: how much does the site grow in a year? | May 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | space-wise? | May 29 23:14 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | we managed to shrink video size recently with transcoding/post-processing | May 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | so it grows about 200MB per day | May 29 23:15 |
| CrystalMath | 500 GB should be enough | May 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | the videos are the overhead or bottleneck | May 29 23:15 |
| MinceR | so about 73 GB / year | May 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: I am NOT outsourcing to a private firm | May 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | certainly not in France | May 29 23:15 |
| MinceR | 6 GB per month | May 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | it's like the most free speech-hostile EU member state | May 29 23:16 |
| CrystalMath | you seem to be adamant on destroying techrights | May 29 23:16 |
| CrystalMath | but oh well, you created it | May 29 23:16 |
| MinceR | so if we had a setup that lets anyone host the last full month + everything that was posted since then, that would require at most 12 GB | May 29 23:16 |
| MinceR | and we could create monthly archives available over bittorrent every month | May 29 23:16 |
| MinceR | we could have a setup where as long as there's one bittorrent seed around, the whole archive can be downloaded by anyone | May 29 23:17 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▅▆▃▇▇▅▆▅▃▃▅▅▇▆▆▆▅▆▅▇▅▅▆▆▅▅▄▅▅▆▇▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▂▃▂▃▂▃▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▃▂▂▃▂▃▂▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 18.43▕ swarm size (avg): 234.02 ⟲ | May 29 23:17 |
| MinceR | and shutting down the site would require shutting down all of those mirrors | May 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: in theory | May 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz | but how many people would make full mirror? More theoretical a thing... in practice you'd struggle to get people to even pin ipfs objects | May 29 23:18 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: it seems to me schestowitz really doesn't care about the truth, all he cares about is Ariadne | May 29 23:18 |
| MinceR | if it doesn't require too much hardware, many people might | May 29 23:18 |
| schestowitz | ariadne did superb work for us | May 29 23:18 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: before you came to IRC even | May 29 23:18 |
| MinceR | i could probably host a Tor hidden service from home | May 29 23:18 |
| schestowitz | you always can mirrror | May 29 23:19 |
| MinceR | my VPS doesn't have enough disk and its storage isn't terribly reliable, i'll look for another | May 29 23:19 |
| CrystalMath | my upload cannot handle 3 MB/s | May 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | regardless of what runs the site most people access | May 29 23:19 |
| CrystalMath | i have 2 Mbit/s upload | May 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | that introduces other issues | May 29 23:19 |
| MinceR | but if i get a host with more disk space, i could host such a small mirror | May 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | like tampering with served data, privacy etc. | May 29 23:19 |
| MinceR | and seed archive torrents from home | May 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | EPO staff don't do torrent | May 29 23:19 |
| MinceR | you can sign the data | May 29 23:19 |
| schestowitz | they need a fast site that's always on | May 29 23:19 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: my problem is that you started saying bad things about freenode just because your beloved host wants you to | May 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | almost all EPO staff reads techrights | May 29 23:20 |
| MinceR | as long as your magnet links or torrent files are not tampered with, the contents of the torrent are verified | May 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | (just not on a daily basis) | May 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: false | May 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | I condemned the channel confiscation MANY times before | May 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz | even to the network's face, because it was simple inexcusable and self-harming | May 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: we can have torrents of the site too | May 29 23:21 |
| MinceR | the site could be mirrored (and updated) via git as long as it's stored in files | May 29 23:21 |
| CrystalMath | okay, but in a video today you said that there's no reason to distrust freenode | May 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | but as it stands, it's like people who "leave youtube" | May 29 23:21 |
| CrystalMath | then your host called up, and now you're changing that story | May 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | and still 90% of their viewed come from/to youtube | May 29 23:21 |
| CrystalMath | you didn't change your story when the Gates Foundation called your boss | May 29 23:21 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: indeed, but it's a bit of work to create a torrent, so i'm thinking of a way to do this without having to do it for every new post | May 29 23:21 |
| CrystalMath | but Ariadne apparently can | May 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | www will always be dominant for at least the next 10 years | May 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | at least | May 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | we made the site a lot lighter | May 29 23:22 |
| schestowitz | fewer images etc. | May 29 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | we might even move to static at some stage, as CMS stuff becomes a laughable hog. I tried wordpress the other day (latest build) and OMG, what a POS | May 29 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Guternberg and all | May 29 23:22 |
| MinceR | indeed we should move to static | May 29 23:23 |
| MinceR | it would make it easier for every mirror | May 29 23:23 |
| schestowitz | I was one of the key people in the first 1-3 years of wordpress | May 29 23:23 |
| MinceR | and it would make DDoS also much more difficult | May 29 23:23 |
| schestowitz | I still manage about 10 wordpress sites | May 29 23:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: we have a lot of static npw | May 29 23:23 |
| schestowitz | except wiki and blog | May 29 23:23 |
| schestowitz | wiki is hard to do as static, as it would no longer be a wiki per se | May 29 23:24 |
| schestowitz | blogging is hard to do statically for very large sites | May 29 23:24 |
| schestowitz | even ariadne gave up on flat text DB and moved to wordpress at the end | May 29 23:24 |
| MinceR | indeed wiki is difficult | May 29 23:24 |
| schestowitz | ariadne.space | May 29 23:24 |
| MinceR | how many people edit the wiki? | May 29 23:24 |
| schestowitz | we could self-host git branch for the site | May 29 23:24 |
| schestowitz | but then imagine how complex editing would be | May 29 23:25 |
| MinceR | the wiki could be redone on top of git, thoug | May 29 23:25 |
| MinceR | h | May 29 23:25 |
| MinceR | articles in flat files, people can clone the repo, edit the article and submit a pull request | May 29 23:25 |
| MinceR | or mail a patch | May 29 23:25 |
| schestowitz | for that you need to open up git to the world | May 29 23:25 |
| schestowitz | we still aren't sure when to release which code and in what form | May 29 23:25 |
| MinceR | the former wiki could be a separate repo | May 29 23:25 |
| schestowitz | it's agplv3 and we need to split things, as there are many different programs there | May 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | bear in mind, I did convert some wikis to static befor | May 29 23:26 |
| schestowitz | e.g.e.g. http://schestowitz.com/iuron/discussion-i/About%20the%20project.html | May 29 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | About the project | May 29 23:27 | |
| schestowitz | it used to be in iuron.com but I was being ripped off by domain registrar for a very small thing from 2005 | May 29 23:27 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/iuron/discussion-i/November%202005.html | May 29 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | November 2005 | May 29 23:28 | |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: sorry to disappoint you, I am sincerely regretful you are not happy about this | May 29 23:30 |
| schestowitz | but I had an experience working with private hosts 2006-2008 | May 29 23:30 |
| schestowitz | didn't last long | May 29 23:30 |
| schestowitz | because pro-Novell people (I assume) decided to nuke us | May 29 23:30 |
| CrystalMath | well okay, suit yourself | May 29 23:31 |
| CrystalMath | i offered to help pay for it | May 29 23:31 |
| CrystalMath | for as long as Ariadne has *any* involvement, i will not give a cent to techrights | May 29 23:31 |
| schestowitz | that is called 'cancel culture' ^ | May 29 23:32 |
| schestowitz | when you say do X, or else | May 29 23:32 |
| schestowitz | specifically, dissociate from Y, or else | May 29 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Beat me to it, I've been thinking about a perfect snarky reply. | May 29 23:32 |
| CrystalMath | err, no, i just can't support Ariadne | May 29 23:32 |
| schestowitz | we need to observe the risk of hypocrisy | May 29 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ariadne just cannot support freenode. | May 29 23:33 |
| CrystalMath | i believe that she is doing horrible things to free software and now journalism too | May 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz | show me where ariadne affected my writings | May 29 23:33 |
| CrystalMath | but i agree that it sounds like cancel culture | May 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz | go ahead... | May 29 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: And ye have managed to say that Ukraine is a terrorist country. | May 29 23:33 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: not the writings, but you're planning on leaving freenode because of her, and you said yourself earlier today that freenode is okay | May 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz | the pocock articles went south months ago because they became more combative, like the nazi tropes | May 29 23:33 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: well not really | May 29 23:34 |
| schestowitz | calling people nazis | May 29 23:34 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: just that its current leadership is kind of "war-mongering" | May 29 23:34 |
| MinceR | did RT say that? | May 29 23:34 |
| schestowitz | we put a plaster on mjg59's mouth because he made it VERY CLEAR that his SOLE intention here is to derail the site and the community | May 29 23:34 |
| schestowitz | which by some definition of Internet trolling... that is IT | May 29 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ye have absolutely no clue what is going on in the region, and ye allow yourself to comment and judge. | May 29 23:35 |
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| kn\ | Hello. I live near the region | May 29 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Russian hosting is the last thing we want | May 29 23:35 |
| schestowitz | not offense to Russians | May 29 23:35 |
| kn\ | Russian aggression is no joke. | May 29 23:35 |
| schestowitz | they are among the victims of Internet suppression there | May 29 23:35 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: idk what you may be assuming, but i don't believe in attacking people to protect the sovereignty of your country, actually; i believe in allowing secession (and yes that means kosovo* too) | May 29 23:35 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I agree. | May 29 23:35 |
| CrystalMath | * - i'm referring to the part of it that is clearly delineated that wishes to secede from serbia | May 29 23:36 |
| schestowitz | we have been a target from numerous sides | May 29 23:36 |
| kn\ | They are taking Georgian and Ukrainian lands that do not belong to them. Russia's government is the aggressors. Russian people are ok and most of them understand their government is terrible. | May 29 23:36 |
| schestowitz | because people (not corporate shills) don't like our free speech | May 29 23:36 |
| schestowitz | and many do trust the side, if they can ignore the shills | May 29 23:36 |
| schestowitz | *site | May 29 23:36 |
| kn\ | If you say anything against the Russian government or say something they don't like, they will take you offline. | May 29 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: And the examples of such attacks are whichever your mum may have heard. | May 29 23:37 |
| schestowitz | a lot of our subject of campaigning is government abuse, e.g. EPO | May 29 23:37 |
| schestowitz | people leak to us, knowing it's hard to censor the material | May 29 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | kn\: schestowitz follows Meduza, which, as ye may know, is being under immense pressure right now. | May 29 23:38 |
| schestowitz | right now we publish across protocols to mitigate slapp risk | May 29 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | The foreign agent status is no joke. | May 29 23:38 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: Ah.. those bloody "foreign agents" | May 29 23:38 |
| schestowitz | foreign | May 29 23:38 |
| MinceR | viktor orban likes foreign agent status he copied it | May 29 23:38 |
| schestowitz | .... to RIGA :0) | May 29 23:38 |
| MinceR | s/tus/tus so much/ | May 29 23:39 |
| schestowitz | duterte also | May 29 23:39 |
| schestowitz | https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/14/trump-chuckled-as-duterte-called-journalists-spies-thats-no-laughing-matter-in-the-philippines/ | May 29 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Marcosism | May 29 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Trump chuckled as Duterte called journalists ‘spies.’ That’s no joke in the Philippines. - The Washington Post | May 29 23:39 | |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/05/21/mister-anti-globalization this article is art, by the way | May 29 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 29 23:39 | |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: forget about DDoS-Guard, i only suggested them because they are notorious for hosting just about anything | May 29 23:40 |
| kn\ | I understand a lot of the things most of the world wouldn't seem to understand about the Russian aggression. A large part of it isn't covered through the world. | May 29 23:40 |
| XRevan86 | I'm sure CrystalMath will look closely at the anti-globalism rhetoric from a person that tried shutting down independent media. | May 29 23:41 |
| kn\ | XRevan86: he or she doesn't understand the world. | May 29 23:41 |
| XRevan86 | kn\: I literally said that. | May 29 23:41 |
| kn\ | yeah just repeating | May 29 23:41 |
| kn\ | Agreeing | May 29 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | I am not a person-judging kind, but CrystalMath is being so categorical and judgemental, while also being plainly hecking wrong, that I am rubbed the wrong way enough to make a stance. | May 29 23:44 |
| kn\ | A large part of the Georgian people here are suffering because the government doesn't seem to help but you will see Russians around the whole country living lavish life styles and paying off officials. The corruption here is really bad. | May 29 23:44 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: the way i see it, there was an illegal coup (maidan) that the eastern part of the country did not accept, so they made a desire to secede | May 29 23:44 |
| CrystalMath | "the way the world works" = america rules, great reset, globallization, making us all slaves? SCREW THAT | May 29 23:45 |
| kn\ | They didn't desire to secede. The Russian government corrupted to the vote and to order to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO | May 29 23:45 |
| kn\ | and the EU | May 29 23:45 |
| kn\ | You cannot join NATO with occupied lands. | May 29 23:45 |
| CrystalMath | i saw the vote, the eastern part voted one way, the western part voted another way | May 29 23:45 |
| CrystalMath | i was watching the vote in 2014 | May 29 23:45 |
| kn\ | Russia doesn't want NATO on their doorstep. | May 29 23:46 |
| kn\ | They did the same with Georgia. | May 29 23:46 |
| CrystalMath | of course not, NATO is dangerous | May 29 23:46 |
| CrystalMath | but that doesn't mean the eastern part of the country didn't vote for... what was his name, Yanukovich | May 29 23:46 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: if you want to know what my vote would be, i would certainly vote against NATO and against the EU, as i always do | May 29 23:46 |
| kn\ | Georgia was on its way to join NATO and Russia is occupying Georgian land and ethnic cleansing has been an issue since the Russo-Georgian war. | May 29 23:47 |
| kn\ | Where are you from? | May 29 23:47 |
| kn\ | Again | May 29 23:47 |
| CrystalMath | serbia | May 29 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: So ye would've voted for the proffessor? I am sensing a pattern here. | May 29 23:47 |
| kn\ | Yeah so | May 29 23:47 |
| kn\ | Something is definitely wrong with you. | May 29 23:47 |
| kn\ | Russia's intentions are not good and they are very unsettling | May 29 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | kn\: Serbia is very pro-Putin, it's a miracle I haven't investigated yet. | May 29 23:47 |
| CrystalMath | that is true, and pro-Jinping as well | May 29 23:47 |
| kn\ | Russia is guilty of ethnic cleansing here in Georgia. | May 29 23:48 |
| CrystalMath | it's a very popular opinion here | May 29 23:48 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: i don't really know enough about the georgia situation | May 29 23:48 |
| schestowitz | it's bad... | May 29 23:48 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: What ye should know beforehand is that Russia has *imperialistic* ambitions. | May 29 23:48 |
| schestowitz | media doesn't write about that much | May 29 23:48 |
| kn\ | South Ossetia and Abkhazia areas were seized by the Russian government to prevent Georgia from joining NATO | May 29 23:49 |
| kn\ | Now they're doing the same to Ukraine. | May 29 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: And the situation in Crimea and Donbass evolved with active involvement of Russia. | May 29 23:49 |
| CrystalMath | let me try to recall.... didn't Sakashvilli start shelling some towns where russians live, and then russia stepped in? (keep in mind i've done no investigation myself, only listened to the news) | May 29 23:49 |
| kn\ | but NATO rules are subject to change and they're trying to find another way for Ukraine and Georgia to join | May 29 23:49 |
| kn\ | Ukraine deserves to be apart of NATO | May 29 23:49 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: because NATO has imperialistic intentions | May 29 23:50 |
| CrystalMath | always had | May 29 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Do ye know why Eastern Europe is so into that? | May 29 23:50 |
| kn\ | They made an agreement with NATO and the US if they were to give their nuclear arsenal up, they would be protected. | May 29 23:50 |
| kn\ | I live in the region. | May 29 23:50 |
| kn\ | I know how people feel | May 29 23:50 |
| kn\ | They are NOT pro Putin | May 29 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I agree with that this sucks, but from their point of view, they're securing themselves against an imperialistic neighbour. | May 29 23:50 |
| CrystalMath | but what if in a part of the country, pro-putin people do live? | May 29 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | while NATO doesn't bother them that much | May 29 23:51 |
| CrystalMath | this is why i dislike EU-style "liberals", they assume automatically that everyone WANTS to be under their rule | May 29 23:51 |
| CrystalMath | that's disgusting in and of itself | May 29 23:51 |
| CrystalMath | that assumption | May 29 23:51 |
| kn\ | CrystalMath: You know how stupid you sound though? When Georgia was apart of the USSR, the Russians/Soviets caused widespread hunger because of communism | May 29 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: In 2014 Ukraine was very weird, and a lot of people got scared of the unknown. | May 29 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | * weak | May 29 23:52 |
| kn\ | I can guarantee you CrystalMath knows nothing about history | May 29 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | kn\: We don't need to involve Stalin into this. | May 29 23:52 |
| kn\ | CrystalMath Where was Joseph Stalin from? | May 29 23:52 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: okay so now you're denying that the people who voted pro-Yanukovich were thinking clearly | May 29 23:52 |
| MinceR | last time i checked, EU and NATO were organizations joined voluntarily | May 29 23:52 |
| MinceR | at least in hungary's case, both cases took a referendum | May 29 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: A lot can happen in 4 years, and Yanuk crossed the line. | May 29 23:53 |
| kn\ | googlign | May 29 23:53 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: after just a bit of force against the minority in your country, sure | May 29 23:53 |
| kn\ | googling | May 29 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | * 3.5 years | May 29 23:53 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: what did he do? | May 29 23:53 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: what force? | May 29 23:53 |
| CrystalMath | besides win the election | May 29 23:53 |
| kn\ | Most Eastern European countries hate Russia | May 29 23:53 |
| kn\ | That is a fact | May 29 23:53 |
| MinceR | small wonder | May 29 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Sabotage the law-development process. | May 29 23:53 |
| MinceR | russian occupation does that to people | May 29 23:53 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: "oh, 51% voted to join NATO, guess ALL of our taxes now go there" | May 29 23:53 |
| kn\ | They only rely on Russia because they are suppliers of cheap product and fossil fuels and natural gas | May 29 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Made agreements with whom he shouldn't have. | May 29 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: that's why democracy is broken unless you have a way to secede | May 29 23:54 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: no, hardly any of our taxes go there | May 29 23:54 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: in fact, there were complaints that we have hardly any spending on the military | May 29 23:54 |
| kn\ | If you talk to actual citizens they realize Putin treats countries like puppets to spread his agenda and to assert power. | May 29 23:54 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: democracy is broken because humans are stupid | May 29 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | kn\: I hope one day we will be able to mend this. | May 29 23:54 |
| *Now talking on #techrights | May 29 23:54 | |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: humans aren't stupid, humans have individual thoughts and individual decisions | May 29 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | they cannot be wrong | May 29 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | if i want to live under Putin's rule, i should have that possibility | May 29 23:55 |
| kn\ | You have to understand my views are coming from me as an American living here for many years now | May 29 23:55 |
| MinceR | yes, stupid thoughts and stupid decisions, usually | May 29 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | and i'm not wrong | May 29 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | Russia doesn't have to be a backwards country that tries to make friends with bribes and only makes enemies in the end. | May 29 23:55 |
| kn\ | I have a lot of friends that agree Putin and the Russian government are terrible | May 29 23:55 |
| MinceR | if you want to live under putin's rule, you should move to russia | May 29 23:55 |
| kn\ | Why do you think a lot of Russians moved to Georgia? | May 29 23:55 |
| kn\ | To get away from Putin | May 29 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: if i say that i, for example, want to do something stupid to myself, then i'm not WRONG for it, because life has no fixed objectives - i can make anything up and do it | May 29 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Он нам не нужен. | May 29 23:55 |
| samiamsam | if you want to live under putin's rule, you should be prevented by putin's removal | May 29 23:55 |
| kn\ | Why do you think Putin poisoned his political rival? | May 29 23:55 |
| kn\ | He sees him as a threat because he was revealing the truth | May 29 23:56 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: the way this is done, it usually sacrifices other people | May 29 23:56 |
| *ChanServ sets mode +q #techrights schestowitz | May 29 23:56 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What if he takes Putin to Serbia instead, eh? | May 29 23:56 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that harms other serbians | May 29 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A lot of them are like him. | May 29 23:56 |
| MinceR | and i should have said "move to putin's manor" since putin shouldn't get to rule russia either | May 29 23:56 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: though we don't have a write-in system, some people did count illegal votes for Putin and there were hundreds | May 29 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They have it coming, trust me. | May 29 23:56 |
| samiamsam | no one's preference can justify such a person as putin having any power over anyone | May 29 23:56 |
| schestowitz | 4 chans registered (I know it sounds weird | May 29 23:56 |
| MinceR | there should not be any states, megacorporations or churches at all | May 29 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | samiamsam: I know I am being cruel, it's just jokes. | May 29 23:57 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: the ircd is running in the `ircd` container | May 29 23:57 |
| kn\ | I see where CrystalMath's views come from now | May 29 23:57 |
| Ariadne | i know | May 29 23:57 |
| Ariadne | obvious | May 29 23:57 |
| kn\ | Serbia is a propaganda state | May 29 23:57 |
| Ariadne | but i figured i would be clear on that | May 29 23:57 |
| kn\ | He/She believes the lies his state media sends out | May 29 23:58 |
| MinceR | "It's only game! Why you heff to be mad?" | May 29 23:58 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A | May 29 23:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why you heff to be mad? (Original) - YouTube | May 29 23:58 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "It's not a game", he does say the article | May 29 23:58 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: tbh i do feel like that about life | May 29 23:59 |
| MinceR | :) | May 29 23:59 |
| CrystalMath | but i don't appreciate it when some people start setting goals for all of us, goals i don't share | May 29 23:59 |
| MinceR | well, the goal is already set for all of us: extinction | May 29 23:59 |
| MinceR | we're doing pretty well | May 29 23:59 |
| CrystalMath | i'm fine with that one | May 29 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: What's awesome is when Putin does. | May 29 23:59 |
| kn\ | CrystalMath: I didn't realize you were the dictator in chief here | May 29 23:59 |
| ---------------- MERGED IN: Self-hosted IRC logs below | May 29 23:43 | |
| - | chanserv> set #<channel guard on | May 29 23:43 |
| --> MinceR (~mincer@xxxxxx) has joined this channel. | May 29 23:43 | |
| - | chanserv> set #techrights guard on | May 29 23:43 |
| MinceR | hi | May 29 23:43 |
| schestowitz | hi :-) | May 29 23:43 |
| MinceR | hm, forgot ipv6 | May 29 23:43 |
| schestowitz | yes, I struggle to set that up | May 29 23:43 |
| schestowitz | cpanel not linking that address for aaa record | May 29 23:44 |
| MinceR | i mean i forgot to specify it :) | May 29 23:44 |
| MinceR | but then i guess it would have failed anyway | May 29 23:44 |
| schestowitz | [23:43] [Notice] -ChanServ- That channel is not registered | May 29 23:44 |
| schestowitz | [23:44] [Notice] -NickServ- Account created | May 29 23:44 |
| schestowitz | [23:44] [Notice] -NickServ- You're now logged in as schestowitz | May 29 23:44 |
| *** You give channel operator privileges to MinceR. | May 29 23:45 | |
| Ariadne | i need bcrypt hashes | May 29 23:45 |
| Ariadne | from you guys | May 29 23:45 |
| Ariadne | to set up ircop access | May 29 23:45 |
| Ariadne | https://www.mkpasswd.net/ | May 29 23:46 |
| Ariadne | select bcrypt explicitly | May 29 23:46 |
| Ariadne | be sure to register the channel with ChanServ as well | May 29 23:49 |
| schestowitz | will do | May 29 23:50 |
| --> schestowitz_log (~schestowitz_log@xxxx) has joined this channel. | May 29 23:54 | |
| *** ChanServ gives channel owner privileges to you. | May 29 23:56 | |
| schestowitz | 4 chans registered (I know it sounds weird | May 29 23:56 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: the ircd is running in the `ircd` container | May 29 23:57 |
| Ariadne | i know | May 29 23:57 |
| Ariadne | obvious | May 29 23:57 |
| Ariadne | but i figured i would be clear on that | May 29 23:57 |
| --> You (~schestowitz@xxxxxxx have joined the channel #techrights. | May 29 00:04 | |
| *** Channel modes: no messages from outside, topic protection | May 29 00:04 | |
| *** This channel was created on 29/05/2021 23:39. | May 29 00:04 | |
| schestowitz__ | odd... /oper caused my connection to restart sort of | May 29 00:05 |
| Ariadne | oh | May 29 00:05 |
| Ariadne | it kicked you, 'password incorrect' | May 29 00:05 |
| Ariadne | worked that time | May 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | ok, did ok now | May 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | does it have 'guard on' supported? | May 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | /CS HELP says not | May 29 00:06 |
| Ariadne | not needed | May 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, I was not sure | May 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | just followed my plain text manuals from the olden days.. | May 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | I will need to do some coding for managing irc logs etc. | May 29 00:10 |
| Ariadne | in this ircd, the services are built into the ircd | May 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | that might take some time, but no rush | May 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | the freenode channel was getting off-topic very often | May 29 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I will try to release some articles around 1am, barely slept... | May 29 00:11 |
| Ariadne | yes i hope that with techrights being here that there will be less people just dropping in to troll | May 29 00:12 |
| Ariadne | :P | May 29 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | trolling is proportional to impact | May 29 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | either | May 29 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | 1) the subject of criticism trying to derail | May 29 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | 2) other causes infiltrating to interject themselves onto something | May 29 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | but 1 never equals 2 | May 29 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | EPO is in chaos now | May 29 00:14 |
| Ariadne | yes, the (2) is what i wonder about :) | May 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | they used to spy on our IRC channels and wrote reports about them | May 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | they leaked out | May 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | (this month we published some) | May 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | EPO panicked | May 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: thanks anyway, you've put all the key pieces in place, I could not be more grateful, this is something we planned even last year but lacked the skillset to do | May 29 00:16 |
| Ariadne | could have just asked :p | May 29 00:16 |
| schestowitz__ | I won't advertise this network yet... need to make lots of changes to code like the irc log pipelines | May 29 00:17 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe do a "public" announcement some time next month | May 29 00:17 |
| --> Server (~Server@xxxxxxxx) has joined this channel. | May 29 00:19 | |
| Ariadne | no | May 29 00:32 |
| *** Server is now known as kn\. | May 29 00:33 | |
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