| schestowitz | "European Union regulators are looking into whether mobile phone operators who block customers from making inexpensive wireless calls over the Internet are breaking competition rules." < http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/11... > | Nov 12 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | Way to go. They used to just say that VoIP helps terrorism. Scare the c* out of pollies with a law degree... | Nov 12 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/11/ashle... "and I'm sure there's no connection between any of this and the BBC becoming Microsoft's UK advertising agency..." | Nov 12 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | "The U.S. Department of Labor recently reported an astonishingly high unemployment rate of 6.1%. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, more than 1.5 million people filed for unemployment claims from January through September 2008, the highest number since 2002. " http://www.pcworld.com/article/153693/... | Nov 12 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | Former MS shill (AKA "ev-angel-ist") writes for IDG/IDC again: http://www.pcworld.com/article/153691/contr... | Nov 12 17:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.osnews.com/comments/20521 | Nov 12 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | I search for http://uk.youtube.com/resul... | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | I get: "Sponsored Links | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Office Open XML | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Work w/ XML Data & Office 2007 Docs | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Fully Functional Trial Version | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | www.Altova.com/XMLSpy | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Office Open XML | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Office Open XML & Mark Logic Power | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Dynamic Publishing. White Paper. | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | www.MarkLogic.com | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Generate OpenXML Document | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Fast, Reliable and Programmable | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Word OpenXML Document Merge | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | www.Xpertdoc.com | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | They hijack the rival's SERPs, using $$. | Nov 12 17:41 |
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| twitter | Best Buy announces problems. http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/... | Nov 12 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | "unexpected" these days means it's "up", not "down" | Nov 12 18:33 |
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| *schestowitz reorgnises hundreds of RSS feeds right now. Just blogged some recommendations in BN. | Nov 12 18:34 |
| twitter | "Best Buy simply can't adjust fast enough to maintain our earnings momentum for this year." | Nov 12 18:34 |
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| twitter | LOL | Nov 12 18:35 |
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| twitter | "Considering the majority of holiday stock has already hit stores or is en route we are expecting significant markdowns into Black Friday," said Pali Capital analyst Stacey Widlitz. | Nov 12 18:35 |
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| twitter | "The Grinch was right. Christmas is not coming from a store." | Nov 12 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | Phew! http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/20... I read that as "resignation" when I saw that. :-| | Nov 12 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | A UK study showed that slaes will slow this Xmas. I could predict that without a 'study' ;-) So could you.. | Nov 12 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | Those who still go on shopping sprees are delusional, don't read the news, or are millionaires. | Nov 12 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* I found a new category for Miguel de Icaza's blog. I put his RSS feed under "Microsoft blogs" | Nov 12 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | This way the themes roughly intersect and I can manage better. Compared to the likes of Mary Jo, Miguel is ULTRA pro-Microsoft. He peddles the hardcare Microsoft crack (lock-ln) like Silverlight... | Nov 12 18:40 |
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| twitter | Manufactured consent. You have hardcore one way, hard core the opposite way and the reasonable middle but all of them are talking about the same things. | Nov 12 18:43 |
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| twitter | The reasonable position on Silverlight is to ignore it in favor of free standards like SVG, and ogg. | Nov 12 18:43 |
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| twitter | Mary Jo probably runs Windows and will tolerate Silverblight like everything else on the platform. | Nov 12 18:45 |
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| twitter | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mary+... | Nov 12 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | OMG. They try to have an open source (ish) blogger and he TOTALLY bailed out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Newton/ | Nov 12 18:46 |
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| twitter | The cross platform lie http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1634 | Nov 12 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | I'm subscribed to him, but didn't touch his feed for a year.. no wonder.. | Nov 12 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | Dead ZDNet blogs.. | Nov 12 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder... | Nov 12 18:47 |
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| twitter | More fawning http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1611 | Nov 12 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | Bear with me on this... do they leave cause nobody reads it or are they gentle being pressured out cause they don't troll enough foir page views$$ (ZDNet has many MS whitepapers and Microsoft ads.. among other giants) | Nov 12 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | *gently | Nov 12 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, Mary Jo hasn't criticised Microsoft for a LONG time. | Nov 12 18:49 |
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| schestowitz | She did it a lot more in the past, which is why I considered /HER/ Microsoft Watch (she moves) worth subscribing to. | Nov 12 18:49 |
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| schestowitz | She has her own site now. | Nov 12 18:49 |
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| schestowitz | I reckon she'll ditch ZDNet soon, just like Todd Bishop left Seattle P-I and do it himself in a new site. | Nov 12 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | *to do | Nov 12 18:50 |
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| twitter | Whatever, she's all focused on M$. It bores me to tears and is only worth reading to know what silly BS M$ has to sabotage Linux with next. | Nov 12 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | In Yahoo's RSS feeds for Microsoft (finance) I have over 10,000 unread items. I ditched it when Microsoft made the bid. | Nov 12 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | I have not linked to Mary Jo Foley in ages. I hope she goes back to looking at a broader picture. She's like Bott now.. just MS PR echoing, which is not challenging. | Nov 12 18:53 |
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| twitter | Here's something nifty, http://vt.freeculture.org/2008/10/26/new-v... | Nov 12 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | She seems to have suffered decline in comments too... don't know what it means to traffic because the two are not related. | Nov 12 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | I think I saw this site before (banner is familiar) | Nov 12 18:54 |
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| twitter | A University Newspaper published with a free license. Compare that to College publisher's AP feed. | Nov 12 18:54 |
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| twitter | Yes, that's the place BB checked out Ubuntu. | Nov 12 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | BB? Not Bruce Byfield, right? | Nov 12 18:55 |
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| twitter | Byfield | Nov 12 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | Oh... I'm just distracted. My feeds suddenly start making sense. | Nov 12 18:55 |
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| twitter | ha ha | Nov 12 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | A nice method for managing them is one- or two-tied search. | Nov 12 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | You grab TONS of feed and then slice them by keywords on title... | Nov 12 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | VERY powerful! | Nov 12 18:56 |
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| twitter | Cool | Nov 12 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | And Googe has potential there, unless it already has option for limiting a reading list based on sites that are trusted. | Nov 12 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | I want to search news, but leave out the gunk. I really haven't tried many RSS readers though... not more than 4. | Nov 12 18:57 |
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| twitter | google news with site:www.likethissite is clumsy but works | Nov 12 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab is excellent with feeds. | Nov 12 18:57 |
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| trmanco | http://www.securiteam.com/windo... | Nov 12 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: what if you want to search in 300 sites (and only inside these sites)? And what if you want to obtain the results as E-mail... like RSS as opposed to HTML? For quicker handling, managing , saving, flagging, etc. | Nov 12 18:58 |
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| twitter | no clue | Nov 12 18:59 |
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| twitter | I'd rather have it in html or dynamically created with "search these results" | Nov 12 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?num... | Nov 12 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | This one, on the other hand, works: http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl... | Nov 12 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | OOps. http://www.google.com/search?num=50&a... | Nov 12 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | Google is a powerful information cruncher/engine for feeding one's curiosity, but there's room for expansion not just in terms of scope (searching/crawling more sites) but also in terms of function offered. | Nov 12 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | I recommend this feed to you: http://www.antitrustinstitute.org/index.rss Been on it for months | Nov 12 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Blech. "It appears that the DOJ agreed with the essence of the AAI's conclusions; but that the DOJ, Google, and Yahoo! could not work out a mutually acceptable solution. The AAI applauds the DOJ for taking a strong position against a deal that could have had serious anticompetitive results." http://www.antitrustinstitute.org/Arch... And MS buying Yahoo is better? | Nov 12 19:09 |
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| twitter | Broadcast is so bizarre it is being used to threaten free speech on the internet http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/... | Nov 12 19:12 |
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| twitter | DOJ, corruption. | Nov 12 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | Big Media uses its existing influence (while its left) to fight New media. It's like a dying monarchy. | Nov 12 19:12 |
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| twitter | Use it or lose it. Their influence is fast fading. That's why they have gotten all shrill and crazy as you noticed. | Nov 12 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | It's hardly funny that the institute standing for justice has become one of the more corrupt. See http://lessig.org/blog/2008/07/net... | Nov 12 19:14 |
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| twitter | These things are crimes that should be punished. | Nov 12 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | /. throwing a bone to OLPCNews, which became slammer... http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slas... | Nov 12 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | It's amazing to see (now that I go through feeds) how many blogs and news sites died.... no activity or dead RSS (or dead site). | Nov 12 19:18 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe half my feeds are 'dead' | Nov 12 19:18 |
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| schestowitz | Arbor warns of surging network attacks < http://www.itwire.com/conte... > | Nov 12 19:19 |
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| twitter | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?... | Nov 12 19:20 |
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| twitter | real or fud? | Nov 12 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | Bravo to Tim!! "Dear governments of the world: Can you please identify at least a few lawbreakers so we can watch the perps walk? It would make your citizens feel so much better." < http://www.tbray.org/ongoing... > | Nov 12 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | SQL injection is a very serious issue. Many sites are vulnerable. If it were not for 320 million zombie PCs, however, then the crooks would be possible to track down and publish. | Nov 12 19:22 |
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| schestowitz | Cybercrime control has become impossible due to the scale of Windows zombification. 1 in 2 machines (almost) can arbitrarily be chosen to carry out the crime. Good luck finding out the criminal, even if he lives next door and not in South Korea. | Nov 12 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | So.......... What's Mr. Kaspersky try to sell /. readers now? Does he say "the Internet is broken", but we made some medicine for you and you only? | Nov 12 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | *trying | Nov 12 19:24 |
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| twitter | OK, sloppy work on top of good code yields sloppy work. It's another weak link in the chain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_injection | Nov 12 19:25 |
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| schestowitz | IBM VP has iPod fetish (they don't give a s* about freedom): http://www.sutor.com/newsite... | Nov 12 19:25 |
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| twitter | The picture being painted on /. is that all servers are equally easy to own. | Nov 12 19:26 |
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| twitter | It's bullshit, of course. | Nov 12 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | Lots of programs in PHP do not sanitisation, but there is no reason for getting pwned that way... just poisoned with bad data | Nov 12 19:26 |
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| twitter | ding dong, new low $20.54 http://finance.google.c... | Nov 12 19:45 |
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| twitter | I'm waiting for them to break below $20 | Nov 12 19:46 |
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| twitter | In other news, US unemployment is forecast to hit 9%. http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?gui... Holy Fuck. | Nov 12 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | Headline coming to mind: Microsoft back to being a teenager. Begone midlife crisis. | Nov 12 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | High unemployment, eh? That sometimes leads to obesity. | Nov 12 19:48 |
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| twitter | or war | Nov 12 19:48 |
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| twitter | more war, that is. | Nov 12 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | That's what I'm very afraid of. | Nov 12 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | Production of weapons for employment and use of troops to occupy for new sources of income. | Nov 12 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | I'm not history buff, but didn't the Germany suffer serious financial stress before the Nazis took power? | Nov 12 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | *I'm no.. | Nov 12 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | *German . Let me find out in Wikipedia, which I trust. | Nov 12 19:50 |
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| twitter | yes and that stress helped trigger the great depression. | Nov 12 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | That was prior to it. | Nov 12 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | 1929... 1933 | Nov 12 19:50 |
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| twitter | look up causes of great depression and see that WWI reparations lead to bigger problems | Nov 12 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_germany trying to find economical info | Nov 12 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | I know Hitler got fanfare because he ended some economical issues... well, but killing and destroying everyone else... | Nov 12 19:51 |
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| twitter | Germany could not afford them and were virtual slaves. They had to take loans to pay for their own reconstruction. | Nov 12 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | "The Third Reich arose in the wake of the loss of land, the heavy reparations, and the perceived national embarrassment imposed through the Treaty of Versailles which ended World War I. Following civil unrest, the worldwide economic depression of the 1930s, the counter-traditionalism of the Weimar period, and the rise of communism in Germany," | Nov 12 19:52 |
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| twitter | US made those loans at big interest rates, but it was a house of cards. | Nov 12 19:52 |
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| twitter | With the world economy in ruins, people turned to fuckwads like Hitler. | Nov 12 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | With articles on topics like these (high activity and many eyeballs), I suppose the information should be credible. | Nov 12 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | As far as I know, there's no rise of supremacists. | Nov 12 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | Austria's stock market: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s... | Nov 12 19:54 |
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| twitter | There is if you don't ignore rhetoric about "Rag Heads" | Nov 12 19:54 |
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| twitter | bigotry is alive and well | Nov 12 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | "52wk Range:1,675.89 - 4,636.12" | Nov 12 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | Icelandic people got labeled terrorists in the UK if they simply protested. | Nov 12 19:55 |
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| twitter | The failure of broadcast may help temper hatred and avert further nonsense like Iraq. | Nov 12 19:56 |
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| twitter | People in Iceland have been protesting. Their currency lost 90% of it's value. | Nov 12 19:56 |
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| twitter | They are screwed and looking to Russia and IMF for a bail out. | Nov 12 19:57 |
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| twitter | Bad, bad choices there. | Nov 12 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.omxnordicexchan... | Nov 12 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | It's hard to get historical view on Iceland's stock market | Nov 12 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | 2 or 3 years ago my dad was raving about the currency in Iceland. | Nov 12 19:58 |
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| twitter | http://www.indefence.is/ | Nov 12 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | Beautiful site | Nov 12 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | I'll put this in BN news digest | Nov 12 19:59 |
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| twitter | Nice, but their petition is not forceful enough. | Nov 12 19:59 |
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| twitter | It implies obligation (guilt) for ordinary citizens as a result of corporate fraud. | Nov 12 19:59 |
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| twitter | Ordinary citizens should not be made to pay for government and corporate corruption. | Nov 12 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | Does the 'media' cover this? | Nov 12 20:00 |
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| twitter | Not much. The site was mentioned in the BBC. | Nov 12 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | I read it selectively, but I heard aboit it on the radio. | Nov 12 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | I'm sure Disney is hard at work on its next blockbuster about rich princesses and castles. | Nov 12 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | Got to keep them [sic] people with high morale, no matter the reality... got to pay that bailo... errr... tax | Nov 12 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | Bishop did an item about prediction that Gates will become United States CTO (new job) | Nov 12 20:03 |
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| twitter | Dumber things have happened. I hope not. | Nov 12 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | If they appoint a crook.. well, that would not shock (typical) but infuriate nonetheless. | Nov 12 20:04 |
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| twitter | Aha, something worth while. News was dead, Links is alive and has what you would call news http://www.indefence.is/Articles-links | Nov 12 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/news/a... | Nov 12 20:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/... | Nov 12 20:07 |
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| twitter | WPA flaw is old news. | Nov 12 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/worl... | Nov 12 20:08 |
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| twitter | better response to the WPA crack is to not use "security" on your wireless access point. | Nov 12 20:09 |
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| schestowitz | A friend of mine predicated this mess, having lurked in sites with whistleblowers. | Nov 12 20:09 |
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| twitter | What did they say? | Nov 12 20:10 |
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| schestowitz | I don't know. I know what he said (and still says). | Nov 12 20:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.junauza.com/2008/11/u... ( Ubuntu 9.04 “Jaunty Jackalope” Mock-up Designs ) | Nov 12 20:22 |
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| twitter | heh, what you said about Disney's bland heroes and easy to spot villains is right. My wife loves that crap and is horrified of the violence and relative ambivalence of Aesop's fables. | Nov 12 20:24 |
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| twitter | Moral atrophy. | Nov 12 20:25 |
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| twitter | new 52 week low, $20.40 | Nov 12 20:26 |
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| twitter | I wonder if M$ is going to run out of money trying to keep their stock from falling below $20. | Nov 12 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/09... ( Microsoft to Buy Back $40 Billion of Stock It Didn’t Spend on Yahoo ) | Nov 12 20:27 |
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| twitter | It's got to be difficult to keep a floor on something that sells by millions all day long. | Nov 12 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | "As notable in the announcement was Microsoft’s plan to tap the debt markets for the first time." | Nov 12 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | "The $6 billion to be raised from the sale of debt could be used to help complete the buyback or for “general corporate purposes,” as the phrase goes, perhaps for other acquisitions." | Nov 12 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft has made no acquisitions for a while; neither had Google... or IBM. | Nov 12 20:32 |
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| twitter | Stuck it on BN http://boycottnovell.com/20... | Nov 12 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | What a nerve. Novell not only poisons Linux with Microsoft junk but not it's also "Call[ing] for 2.0 Contributors". Yes, free labour to help ruin the Web with XAML... http://ostatic.com/176861-blog/moonlight-... | Nov 12 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | Okay, I'll put that as a comment. | Nov 12 20:36 |
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| twitter | M$FT now $20.34 | Nov 12 20:36 |
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| twitter | comment? It's already there. | Nov 12 20:36 |
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| twitter | Calling for free labor. How else does a large and wealthy corporation reach out to the free software community? | Nov 12 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | Lies. | Nov 12 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | Like this: http://www.itwire.com/content/v... ( How to ensure that your distribution gets rave reviews ) | Nov 12 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | Taking the piss out of Microsoft's briberies... "Supplying the distribution on a single platform will solve that problem. Nobody will be able to say they encountered problems - indeed, they would feel a sense of guilt if they did point out problems after having accepted such an expensive gift." | Nov 12 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | Ah, thanks for the comment. This is a good reference that I use a lot, so it's viewed thousands of times. | Nov 12 20:40 |
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| *schestowitz think news are drying up as reporters take cover | Nov 12 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Your stalker took just 8 minutes to strike: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/... | Nov 12 20:42 |
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| twitter | well, well. | Nov 12 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | You 'brought' with you some Slashdot Munchkins, I think. Like a shark with small lousy fish on his tail... | Nov 12 20:43 |
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| twitter | More like barnacles on a whale. | Nov 12 20:46 |
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| twitter | The munckins are all the same people. | Nov 12 20:46 |
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| twitter | They knew all about you on Slashdot before I did. | Nov 12 20:47 |
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| twitter | Ha, banks are still sitting on their bailout money instead of lending. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mon... | Nov 12 20:50 |
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| twitter | " banks "should not maintain a level of cash dividends that is inconsistent with the organization’s capital position, that could weaken the organization’s overall financial health, or that could impair its ability to meet the needs of creditworthy borrowers." | Nov 12 20:50 |
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| twitter | No wonder share prices are taking a dump. | Nov 12 20:51 |
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| twitter | Like a brick, M$FT hits new low $20.28 | Nov 12 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | Intel's CEO (another criminal) reckons next year it'll get worse. | Nov 12 20:52 |
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| twitter | People who know M$ is going to try and keep a $20 floor should be taking M$ to the cleaners right now. There's got to be a way to exploit that knowledge and walk off with M$'s remaining cash. | Nov 12 20:54 |
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| twitter | Longsoon, ARM and AMD can make things considerably worse for Intel. | Nov 12 20:56 |
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| twitter | If you define "worse" as losing your 30% monopoly profit margin. | Nov 12 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10094807-16... | Nov 12 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | Good comments in http://ostatic.com/176859-blog/go-... | Nov 12 20:58 |
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| twitter | slap, M$FT eats another 4.25% | Nov 12 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | Especially Longsoon. Are they government-backed like most/all companies there? | Nov 12 20:59 |
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| _doug | "IT admin used inside knowledge to hack and steal" | Nov 12 21:03 |
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| _doug | http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl... | Nov 12 21:03 |
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| _doug | "This was one of the most sophisticated computer crimes our office has prosecuted," | Nov 12 21:03 |
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| _doug | "One of Madrid's victims was his former employer, a Sunnyvale, California, high-technology company. According to Field, Madrid destroyed data on the company's servers in the hope that "they would ask him to come back and fix the very problem that he created."" | Nov 12 21:04 |
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| _doug | sophisticated ? | Nov 12 21:04 |
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| _doug | "To make his hacking harder to trace, Madrid would often use his neighbor's open wireless networks, Field said" | Nov 12 21:04 |
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| _doug | sophisticated ? | Nov 12 21:04 |
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| _doug | "Posing as a security guard or an IT worker, he also breezed through Bay Area companies late at night looking for laptops" | Nov 12 21:05 |
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| _doug | "In another scheme, Madrid would change bar-code tags on computer equipment in stores in order to pay retailers less than the value" | Nov 12 21:05 |
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| _doug | sophisticated ? how ? swapping price tags ... | Nov 12 21:07 |
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| twitter | About time! http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10095219-92.html | Nov 12 21:08 |
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| _doug | 'Madrid pleaded guilty .. two counts of possession of methamphetamine for sale.' | Nov 12 21:08 |
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| twitter | LCDs will get cheaper, as if the collapsing economy would not have already done that. | Nov 12 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Don't forget that what Novell puts in its forks not only promotes the Microsoft API but is also patents-encumbered. Moreover, Microsoft can change the OSP at any time, the company approaches debt ( http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/09/22/micro... ) and Gates seems to be entering he patent-trolling business with his old buddy, Nathan. | Nov 12 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Ah! Price-fixing of course... NVidia probably did this too (GPU market duopoly) but the SEC/FTC preferred doughnuts over punishment for the crimes. | Nov 12 21:11 |
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| _doug | Symbian patent dynamic loading of DLL libraries .. | Nov 12 21:14 |
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| _doug | http://www.bailii.org/ew/ca... | Nov 12 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | Symbian can go to hell. | Nov 12 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoftand Nokia (among others) have already "diluted' the term open source (so it 'win' either way). If people care about freedom of their code, they should abandon the term open source. | Nov 12 21:15 |
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| _doug | http://www.heise.de/english/n... | Nov 12 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | "That would be because we believe in Free Software and doing the right thing (a practice you appear to have given up on). Maybe it is time the term 'open source' also did the decent thing and died out with you." --Alan Cox to Eric Raymond | Nov 12 21:15 |
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| _doug | A linked-list of function calls | Nov 12 21:16 |
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| _doug | $1M Reward for identity of ID extortionists .. | Nov 12 21:20 |
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| _doug | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/secu... | Nov 12 21:20 |
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| _doug | "early October it received a letter that included the names, birth dates, Social Security numbers and in some cases prescription data on employees from 75 of its customers. The authors also threatened to expose millions of consumer records if the company declined to pay up" | Nov 12 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | Why did you do it. :-) | Nov 12 21:21 |
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| twitter | This is interesting. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17... | Nov 12 21:23 |
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| twitter | Google video chat, not flash but only for Winblows according to cnet | Nov 12 21:24 |
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| _doug | do what ? | Nov 12 21:25 |
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| _doug | http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph... | Nov 12 21:25 |
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| _doug | OS = F5 Big-IP | Nov 12 21:25 |
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| twitter | http://mail.google.com/videochat | Nov 12 21:25 |
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| schestowitz | Here's why I rank Haff poorly: http://news.cnet.com/8301-135... | Nov 12 21:25 |
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| schestowitz | Watch this: "What's striking to me is how few people seem to really care about the AGPL and the supposed problem it's trying to solve. Yes, there are the zealots who go apoplectic at the thought of open source being used for profit-making purposes. And there's a fair bit of discussion about how to best protect portability, privacy, and so forth in a cloud-computing world." | Nov 12 21:25 |
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| -tomaw-[Global Notice] Hi all. That split has taken services and 10k with it. We're currently investigating the cause and hope to have it resolved soon. Further updates via wallops (/mode <nick> +w). Thanks! | Nov 12 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes, the 'ZEALOTS" who care about privacy and care about commons. Those 'zealots'... it's not about profit-making at all. | Nov 12 21:26 |
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| twitter | what an idiot | Nov 12 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | It's also why I tossed CNET. it shows up in Google though. | Nov 12 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | Woah! Some serious Free software FUD, predicting death to the sharing of code *LOL* http://www.embedded.com/produc... It's one of those in the embedded mags that hate Linux and open source. | Nov 12 21:37 |
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| _doug | "Carphone Warehouse (CW) has denied rumours that it has recalled its entire in-store stock of own-brand Linux netbooks so it can replace the open source OS with Windows" | Nov 12 21:38 |
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| _doug | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008... | Nov 12 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | Funny that Linux smartphone are UP 49%, Symbian goes open source... the embedded space is dominated by Linux. | Nov 12 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I saw the rumour. | Nov 12 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | Smells like OLPC-type at-all-costs Slog. | Nov 12 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | But it's possible that they took *some* steps | Nov 12 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | They sell them online for sure. | Nov 12 21:39 |
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| _doug | virtual Obama .. | Nov 12 21:44 |
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| _doug | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi... | Nov 12 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | Masive FUD from Eric Savitz (Barron's are always MS-centric): http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdail... | Nov 12 21:44 |
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| -christel-[Global Notice] Hi all! Terribly sorry for that (fairly substantial) split! Unfortunately one of our sponsors experienced routing issues affecting our secondary US hub, Services and one of our largest MRS servers.. The issues are hopefully fixed for now, but if you have some spare connectivity and hardware, perhaps you should consider helping us not keep all our eggs in one basket! Again, sorry and thanks for using freenode! | Nov 12 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Rebuttals: http://blogs.zdnet.com/op... | Nov 12 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft press on Open Source again: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/... | Nov 12 21:48 |
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| twitter | Ha, the fool. Last year they thought Circuit City was flush with cash and ready for the future (TM) | Nov 12 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | It was hard to find clues but Preston Gralla did not get a laptop bribe: http://www.computerworld.com/ac... "I experienced only one glitch: At first, Windows 7 could not properly recognize the laptop's wide-screen resolution." | Nov 12 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | He's still licking the boot because some people consider him to be a Microsoft shill. He did several anti-Linux pieces recently. | Nov 12 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: could you please locate that article. | Nov 12 21:54 |
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| twitter | OK | Nov 12 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | It would help invalidate Fool.com (publicly) as an information source about finance. They, like Salon, sell the impression that Microsoft is God of Finance.. | Nov 12 21:55 |
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| twitter | they hedged their bets, but I quoted them here http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?... from http://www.fool.com/investing/general/... | Nov 12 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Fool is foolish. Who would read something called Fool? | Nov 12 21:57 |
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| twitter | They never really say anything. The article really recommended WalMart, which was a good idea. | Nov 12 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Classy: "2007 - Fired 3,000 of their best workers [slashdot.org] and gave CEO's million dollar bonuses." | Nov 12 21:59 |
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| twitter | so they did. | Nov 12 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | Well, it's not easy to fire employees, right? Then reward the bosses for the 'pain'. Never mind the pain of being sacked. | Nov 12 21:59 |
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| twitter | Here's what one big investor thinks about M$, http://slashdot.org/~twitt... | Nov 12 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | It's like putting a bear 'in charge' of the fridge. | Nov 12 22:00 |
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| twitter | They basically raped the place and the timing is suspicious. In 2004, they did an internal migration to Suse. By 2006 they were shitting on their employees. The end came quickly from there. | Nov 12 22:05 |
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| twitter | The first big shit was to go from commissions to flat salary. The second was to can all the experienced workers. Five of the last six quarters were money losers. | Nov 12 22:06 |
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| *_doug has quit () | Nov 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz | So bosses could liquidate remaining assets to selves, then shut down | Nov 12 22:09 |
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| twitter | I'll bet the M$ executive punishment and transfer was in action as soon as M$ got whiff of the internal transfer. | Nov 12 22:09 |
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| twitter | Well, the bosses started handing themselves million dollar bonuses. | Nov 12 22:10 |
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| twitter | That's pretty much ripping the company off. Obviously, they got the money for their bonuses by screwing their employees. It's not like they came from making money. M$ involvement is less obvious. | Nov 12 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | Fraud? | Nov 12 22:14 |
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| twitter | The usual white collar crime of paying yourself while the company fails. | Nov 12 22:18 |
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| twitter | If M$ stuffed the board of directors, there's more to it than that though. | Nov 12 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft does this too. | Nov 12 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | BillG sakes his shares, sinking Microsoft while making a fortune from the Microsoft pyramid schemes. | Nov 12 22:20 |
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| twitter | ah ha, it seems Cnet already has a theory. http://news.cnet.com/8301-135... | Nov 12 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | This guy is a troll. One last blast before the ship sinks. | Nov 12 22:25 |
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| twitter | Don Reisinger adds no facts with his flame, other than CC stock was doing well in 2000 | Nov 12 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Don't link to Don. He's a troll and not by accident. | Nov 12 22:25 |
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| twitter | He's singing the M$ song and it's not the first time I've seen that. Sorry I mentioned him. | Nov 12 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | The guy is an embarrassment to CNET and he's symbolic of the type of stuff that made me leave. | Nov 12 22:25 |
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| twitter | What it signals is M$ flooding the channel with crap so people don't dig deeper. | Nov 12 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | He's pissing people off for pageviews. In every single thing he writes. | Nov 12 22:26 |
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| twitter | Trolls are useful for indicating things M$ would like to hide. | Nov 12 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | Like what for example? | Nov 12 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | Channel stuffing was not the only issue. | Nov 12 22:28 |
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| twitter | http://www.forbes.com/lists/20... | Nov 12 22:28 |
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| *schestowitz looks | Nov 12 22:28 |
| schestowitz | "The 45 year old executive ranks 23 within Retailing" | Nov 12 22:29 |
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| twitter | that was 2006 | Nov 12 22:29 |
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| twitter | I'm trying to look up the guy's history, see where he comes from. | Nov 12 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | "The ~50 year old executive [Bill Gates] ranks 1 within crime" [but rewrites history] | Nov 12 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 12 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | Ellison is not innocent either. I can think of very few that are humble and honst | Nov 12 22:30 |
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| twitter | Here's the CC time line. | Nov 12 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | Google has a track record that is not entirely bad. | Nov 12 22:31 |
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| twitter | link? | Nov 12 22:31 |
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| twitter | Schoonover rose around 2005, after the Suse migration, a merger and an attempted buyout. | Nov 12 22:33 |
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| twitter | smells like slog | Nov 12 22:33 |
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| twitter | wikipedia page has grown a little. I'll be there's heavy editing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... | Nov 12 22:35 |
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| twitter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Schoonover now redirects to Circuit City | Nov 12 22:36 |
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| twitter | bitches can't hide http://web.archive.org/web/200... | Nov 12 22:36 |
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| twitter | woops, blank page. | Nov 12 22:37 |
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| twitter | they sure can hide | Nov 12 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Philip_J._Schoonover bankrupt? | Nov 12 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Try Google chace | Nov 12 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | It's too new. http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache... | Nov 12 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | Cache can't go further back... | Nov 12 22:38 |
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| twitter | http://web.archive.org/web... | Nov 12 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | Google redirects, only then pull from cache. | Nov 12 22:40 |
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| twitter | Here's where they got rid of the guy who must have been responsible for the Suse migration http://web.archive.org/web/2005... | Nov 12 22:45 |
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| twitter | Shortly before, there was this rearrangement of big dogs, http://web.archive.org/web/20050304024... | Nov 12 22:47 |
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| twitter | One guy brought in from Best Buy, no M$ smoking gun though. | Nov 12 22:48 |
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| twitter | tee hee, they did not give M$ a vendor award in 2005. http://web.archive.org/web/2005030403... | Nov 12 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | How's Best Buy doing? | Nov 12 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | CompUSA is busted... mostly... IIRC | Nov 12 22:50 |
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| twitter | Best buy had an earnings warning, where they revised things down 20% or so. | Nov 12 22:51 |
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| twitter | CompUSA is gone because the richest man in Mexico lost $2 billion dollars running it and wanted to cut his losses. Really, it won't be back. | Nov 12 22:52 |
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| twitter | here's another long term member of the company leaving in 2005 http://web.archive.org/web/2005020400030... | Nov 12 22:52 |
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| twitter | heh, Tandy sued them in Texas in 2005, that smells out loud http://web.archive.org/web/2005040307303... | Nov 12 22:54 |
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| twitter | a 2005 buy out attempt and a $800 M stock buy back. http://web.archive.org/web/20... | Nov 12 22:57 |
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| twitter | lots of rough and tumble going on there. | Nov 12 22:58 |
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| twitter | counter suit against radio shack, http://web.archive.org/web/2005072... | Nov 12 22:59 |
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| twitter | holy crap, a whole plane full died! http://web.archive.org/web/20050304... | Nov 12 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* https://www.imbrandon.com/2008.... | Nov 12 23:02 |
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| twitter | broke off with Amazon.com http://web.archive.org/web/2005030... | Nov 12 23:03 |
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| twitter | exploiting tensions between allies? | Nov 12 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. I highlighted a joke at the same time you mentioned tragic death. | Nov 12 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linux.com is down | Nov 12 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | Back up. Was down some minutes ago. | Nov 12 23:05 |
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| twitter | obviously an accident | Nov 12 23:05 |
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| twitter | here's three more top management rotations in 2005 http://web.archive.org/we... | Nov 12 23:06 |
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| twitter | here's a guy they got in 2006 who started off in Ziff-Davis back in 1998. Lots of stuff came between. http://web.archive.org/web/20061009141758/... | Nov 12 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | Ziff-Davis is belley-up now... since last year | Nov 12 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | SJVN survived as a reporter in more places than ever though. | Nov 12 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | To be honest, I like hearing about old media companies going AWOL. This helps in replacing them. Media never stops and people seem to read news more than ever before. | Nov 12 23:15 |
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| twitter | In mid 2006, they did well with Video equipment and laptops but were dogged by declining desktop sales (double didgit decline) aka Vista failure. http://web.archive.org/web/200610091414... | Nov 12 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Star Wars it becoming like the pop music industry where they pick up a set new of mannequins to pose each generation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/enter... | Nov 12 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | Vista only came inearly 2007. RTM in Von 200. | Nov 12 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | *Nov | Nov 12 23:16 |
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| MinceR | gn | Nov 12 23:18 |
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| twitter | oh, then it's responsible for this http://web.archive.org/web/20070629221538... | Nov 12 23:18 |
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| twitter | big losses instead of profit :) | Nov 12 23:19 |
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| twitter | and 5 of the last 6 quarters were much the same. | Nov 12 23:19 |
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| twitter | to be fair, and I should not be, video sales declined at that time too. | Nov 12 23:21 |
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| twitter | According to the Wiki, Phil Schoonover’s management team was short lived, | Nov 12 23:23 |
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| twitter | Circuit City announced on February 23, 2007 that Michael Foss, Chief Financial Officer, would leave the company. This unsettled investors and analysts concerned about management turnover. "This represents the third departure of a senior executive in the past six months, and the second departure of a top-five executive in the past month" said Goldman Sachs analyst Matthew Fassler in a client note. Chief Executive Office Phil Schoo | Nov 12 23:23 |
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| schestowitz | Goldman Sachs, eh? Look who's talking... | Nov 12 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | Nokia Siemens Networks in 'synergy-related headcount restructuring' - 9,000 culled to the sound of whalesong < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/1... > and IDC slashes 2009 global IT projections < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/... > | Nov 12 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | But there's some humours to sweeten the blow: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/1... ( Batman sues Batman over Batman [.,..] The mayor of Batman, Turkey, is suing Warner Bros. and The Dark Knight director Christopher Nolan for using the Cape Crusader's name without the city's permission.) *LOL* | Nov 12 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | *humour | Nov 12 23:29 |
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| twitter | It looks like the usual rule of management fuck over applied after 2003. Employees, shareholders and customers. Management that screws one will screw the other two as well. | Nov 12 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | wb, Omar87, Tallken | Nov 12 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: they knew what was coming | Nov 12 23:30 |
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| Omar87 | Thanks schestowitz. :) | Nov 12 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | If you know you have x months in the company, then you think short-term (i.e. loot the company) | Nov 12 23:30 |
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| Tallken | hi schestowitz | Nov 12 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | We were just talking about Circuit City going the way of the dodo. | Nov 12 23:31 |
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| twitter | I'd rather leave than loot. Looting looks bad on the resume. | Nov 12 23:31 |
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| schestowitz | Windows ME2 could not save them and neither could political corruption they destroys the industry right now. | Nov 12 23:31 |
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| schestowitz | Whose resume? | Nov 12 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | Who would be the reference? The company is no more. | Nov 12 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat's CEO comes to mind. | Nov 12 23:32 |
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| twitter | It's funny how people who hand themselves millions get awards but those who steal a few hundred bucks from the cash register go to jail. | Nov 12 23:32 |
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| Omar87 | Guys, whenever I start an argument with someone, about proprietary software vs. FOSS, I just don't why every time this happens, they just start talking about it from a business perspective. | Nov 12 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat should step up and spank Novell. | Nov 12 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | What Novell does is a travesty and it fools investors, the press. | Nov 12 23:33 |
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| Omar87 | As if there's nothing else in the world but business.. | Nov 12 23:33 |
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| twitter | You can talk about it from a business perspective too, your own business. | Nov 12 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | Analysts... haha... companies 'buy' them not for advice to be given to the company but advice that's given to the public... in reports, papers, seminars, consultation.. IN FAVOUR of the funding company/ies | Nov 12 23:33 |
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| twitter | It's doubtful anyone you or they know actually makes money selling boxed copies of non free software. | Nov 12 23:34 |
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| schestowitz | Anal-ysts =turncoats. | Nov 12 23:34 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: That true, I agree with you. But what about the other sides if the world? The people? | Nov 12 23:34 |
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| twitter | Ask them why they have loyalty to a business method that does nothing for anyone they know. | Nov 12 23:34 |
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| twitter | and no loyalty to their own interests | Nov 12 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | Did the SEC's head get bumped? | Nov 12 23:35 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: Yeah, that's right. | Nov 12 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | I think that he got ripped in the WSJ when I read it at the airport. | Nov 12 23:35 |
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| *libervisco has quit ("Remember, remember the fifth of november...") | Nov 12 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Sun market cap slips below $3bn < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/12/... >. Let's see Novell's | Nov 12 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | 1.4bn | Nov 12 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | bn=billiob, not Boycott Novell :-) | Nov 12 23:37 |
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| Omar87 | For example I just put this as my sentence as my status on Facebook: ""WARNING: If you are a Linux user, or intend to use Linux in the future, NEVER use SUSE, 'coz it's for Novell, and Novell is a traitor." | Nov 12 23:38 |
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| *schestowitz 's thumbs up | Nov 12 23:38 |
| Omar87 | They asked my what happened, I told them that Novell is a traitor and they're against freedom... etc. | Nov 12 23:39 |
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| twitter | It's easier to recommend a community developed distribution like Debian of Fedora. Ubuntu, Mepis or Red Hat if they must have a commercial distribution. | Nov 12 23:39 |
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| twitter | Don't advertise the wrong choices to newbies. It's better they never find Suse in the hundreds of available distributions. | Nov 12 23:41 |
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| Omar87 | And that they're working with (and for) MS, then one of them said: "There's nothing wrong with using and paying for technology that your users want." | Nov 12 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | PCLinuxOS | Nov 12 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | [not tied to any company] | Nov 12 23:41 |
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| twitter | There is something wrong with using software that won't let you do what you want. | Nov 12 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | PCLinuxOS is also better suited than Debian for beginners, I think., | Nov 12 23:41 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: Exactly. | Nov 12 23:42 |
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| schestowitz | Use Win3.1 | Nov 12 23:42 |
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| schestowitz | Then use 95, 98... then get kill switch (XP) | Nov 12 23:42 |
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| schestowitz | Then you get DRM (Vista) | Nov 12 23:42 |
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| schestowitz | And so on... | Nov 12 23:42 |
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| Omar87 | And oh well, I don't think my users will want anything that they can't afford, ya know. :) | Nov 12 23:42 |
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| schestowitz | Bill Gates: "Windows 2000 already contains features such as the human discipline component, where the PC can send an electric shock through the keyboard if the human does something that does not please Windows." | Nov 12 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | Bill Gates: "Since when has the world of computer software design been about what people want? This is a simple question of evolution. The day is quickly coming when every knee will bow down to a silicon fist, and you will all beg your binary gods for mercy." | Nov 12 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | And yes, he said that. | Nov 12 23:43 |
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| twitter | I don't know, RPM based distros drive me nuts. Either too much is hidden or I just don't know how to use them. If I'm going to help people get along, I have to recommend Mepis, Ubuntu or other Debian children. | Nov 12 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | Mandriva never failed me. It uses RPM. The repo has everything I need. | Nov 12 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | [and I'm an advanced user] | Nov 12 23:44 |
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| twitter | It's not the distro, it's me. I can only handle one way of doing things at a time. | Nov 12 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | Lots of time I think, "there's no way this obscure thing will be there," but IT'S THERE... and just a tickbox away. | Nov 12 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | At work I use apt-get | Nov 12 23:45 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Why can't I find them on Wikiqoute? | Nov 12 23:45 |
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| twitter | scrubbing? | Nov 12 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: I found them in independent sources. I have confidence in them. | Nov 12 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | I should make that less ambiguous: I found those quotes in separate sites.... same quotes exactly, different sets | Nov 12 23:46 |
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| twitter | I read all sorts of monomaniacal talk about DOS of all things from one of the anit-trust cases. "DOS is out Power" and other crazy drool. | Nov 12 23:47 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Yeah, and I believe you, but can you give me any links? Just for documentation purposes, so that whatever I tell those people, I give them a proof about it. | Nov 12 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | The Dennis Byr0n weirdo shows up here: Dennis Byron | Nov 12 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/11/... | Nov 12 23:48 |
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| twitter | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q... | Nov 12 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | Try Google. :-) | Nov 12 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=... | Nov 12 23:49 |
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| *Tallken has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 12 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Oh wait... "This spoof originally appeared on the now defuct pwot.com Website in 2000." http://slated.org/pwot_bill_gates_interview | Nov 12 23:50 |
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| twitter | The power of DOS talk was no spoof. | Nov 12 23:50 |
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| twitter | that picture is not an intentional spoof, but there is a Mac behind him and his Win 2.0 floppies. | Nov 12 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | He need 'inspiration' | Nov 12 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | Something to patent... | Nov 12 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | *needed | Nov 12 23:52 |
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| twitter | bbl | Nov 12 23:53 |
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| Omar87 | Man, Bill Gate is a psycho.. :D | Nov 12 23:59 |
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| Omar87 | Gates* | Nov 12 23:59 |
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