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Microsoft and Cronies Create Another EU Lobby at Taxpayers' Expense?

Theatre of cronyism

The following is a conversation from IRC that we haven't time to summarise properly. Do not take it at face value (we have not the time to validate), but some observations are factual.



euphohttp://www.publictechnology.net/modul...Dec 29 08:16
eupho Jean-Philippe Courtois becomes "ambassador" for the EYCI 2009.Dec 29 08:17
euphowith compTIA they lobbied for the "year".Dec 29 08:17
schestowitzHeyDec 29 08:17
schestowitzLet me see...Dec 29 08:17
euphoCommissioner Figel seems to be their buddyDec 29 08:18
schestowitzWho's that?Dec 29 08:19
euphohttp://www.create2009.europa.eu/ambas...Dec 29 08:19
schestowitzLet's see.Dec 29 08:19
euphoI wonder who elected a monopolistDec 29 08:19
schestowitzStacking?Dec 29 08:20
euphoCourtois is the Microsoft EMEA chief salesmanDec 29 08:20
schestowitzSo wait.. what is his role now? I'm still read it.Dec 29 08:20
schestowitz"Jean-Philippe Courtois (FR), President, Microsoft International"Dec 29 08:21
euphoI assume the EYCI is a lobby project of hugo LuedersDec 29 08:21
euphoCreativity and Innovation == Software patentingDec 29 08:21
schestowitzWhat doe it target?Dec 29 08:21
schestowitzOhDec 29 08:21
schestowitzOf course.Dec 29 08:21
schestowitz"Innovation"Dec 29 08:21
schestowitzLike the fake "VoicesForInnovation" siteDec 29 08:21
euphoIt is a blabla buzz eventDec 29 08:21
euphobut funded by EU moneyDec 29 08:21
schestowitzCreated by Microsoft... for the 'community'Dec 29 08:21
euphosome political bullshit process, cmp. also the Lisbon agendaDec 29 08:22
euphoLisbon = "EU for innovation"Dec 29 08:22
euphoand competitivenessDec 29 08:22
schestowitzHow did you find out?Dec 29 08:23
euphoit's on the webDec 29 08:27
euphoyour MEP could ask a nasty questionDec 29 08:27
euphohttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/members.doDec 29 08:28
euphohttp://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAc...Dec 29 08:29
euphoHow: that Lueders is behind?Dec 29 08:29
schestowitzI'll need to study this a bit, then post the conclusions.Dec 29 08:29
euphosimple, listen to himDec 29 08:29
schestowitzI heard of him before.Dec 29 08:29
euphoWhen he is not in evil anti-standards, pro-patent mode he talks about "eskills"Dec 29 08:30
euphoand "us" and "our need" to "show leadership" and become more competiveeDec 29 08:31
euphoin the field of educationDec 29 08:31
schestowitzMore competitive...Dec 29 08:31
schestowitzSounds like ACT/ATLDec 29 08:31
euphoACT is a fly-in, Lueders is the European ground worker and CompTIA also has a certification branchDec 29 08:32
euphohttp://www.techworld.com/applications/news/in...Dec 29 08:32
schestowitzI see...Dec 29 08:32
schestowitzOh, I saw that article many times.Dec 29 08:33
euphoPolitically uncorrect: Figel is a Commissioner with a "women job", no one takes him seriousDec 29 08:34
euphoA Commissioner for every member stateDec 29 08:35
euphoSome overlap. Figel is just a figurehead.Dec 29 08:37
schestowitzI'd need to catch up with who is who here.Dec 29 08:37
schestowitzThanks for drawing it upDec 29 08:38
euphoCommissioner for Education, Culture, and MultilingualismDec 29 08:38
euphohttp://www.vrwb.be/MFiles/figel1.pdfDec 29 08:39
eupho;-)Dec 29 08:39
schestowitzThanks!Dec 29 08:39
euphohttp://www.ebsummit.eu/programme/speak...Dec 29 08:39
schestowitzIt looks like the corruptible ones stand outDec 29 08:39
euphohttp://www.microsoft.com/france/imagine-c...Dec 29 08:39
schestowitzIt's hard for the public to know without entering the "public arena", which is just what they wantDec 29 08:39
schestowitzI see...Dec 29 08:40
schestowitzSo how is Figel connected to it again?Dec 29 08:40
schestowitzI'll use this log as notes later on when I write about itDec 29 08:40
euphohttp://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=es-...Dec 29 08:40
euphoMicrosoft via Lueders "adopted" Jan Figel as their Commissioner.Dec 29 08:41
schestowitzLooks like quite a crony typeDec 29 08:42
euphobecause no one else is interested in what he has to sayDec 29 08:42
schestowitzI see..Dec 29 08:42
schestowitzHow confident are you?Dec 29 08:42
euphoLook at any Microsoft branded as Microsoft event and look whom they inviteDec 29 08:43
schestowitzHow much do you know about Charlie McCreevy and Microsoft?Dec 29 08:44
schestowitzIs there a connection you are aware of?Dec 29 08:44
schestowitzI already know the Sarko connection.Dec 29 08:44
euphoMcCreevy is powerful.Dec 29 08:46
schestowitzLike a chainsawDec 29 08:46
euphoCourtois and Figel, when you see them on stage it looks like they are brothers.Dec 29 08:46
euphohttp://www.smeday.com/2008/sme...Dec 29 08:48
schestowitzSME DayDec 29 08:49
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 29 08:49
schestowitzThe ACT thing with Microsoft 'hosting' IIRCDec 29 08:49
eupho+ European!Dec 29 08:49
euphoA Microsoft sales guy meeting with some young entrepreneur buzzDec 29 08:49
schestowitzWhich  entrepreneur buzz?Dec 29 08:50
euphowhat can WE do to forster investment and make capital available to start upsDec 29 08:50
schestowitzWhat's funny is that "Small and Medium-sized business day" is organised by monopolistsDec 29 08:50
euphoA bit ironic when it is hosted by Microsoft which has a lot of cash for investmentDec 29 08:50
schestowitzIt's a bit like parents who set up a birthday for a 5-year-oldDec 29 08:50
euphoYes.Dec 29 08:50
schestowitzIt's no isolated thing.Dec 29 08:51
schestowitzThey steal voices that wayDec 29 08:51
schestowitzI used many examples to show this before.Dec 29 08:51
euphoAnd of course capital conditions, you try to use the young naive entrepreneurs and built your own sock puppets aarmyDec 29 08:51
euphoarmyDec 29 08:51
euphoLong term, low keyDec 29 08:51
schestowitzYes, like letters from the dead.Dec 29 08:52
euphoOh, Peter Jungen!?Dec 29 08:52
schestowitzWho's that?Dec 29 08:52
euphoPeter Jungen is, German?!, looks like 75, and talks cold war rhetorics with an SME falvourDec 29 08:53
euphoHe is somewhat connected with the SME Union of the conservativesDec 29 08:53
schestowitzHow do you know all this?Dec 29 08:54
euphoA political capitalism ideologist and activist without a home base.Dec 29 08:54
euphoThe EU is funny, you just need to watch and follow it.Dec 29 08:56
euphoJTAG Tech is a company that innovates with an eye towards user friendliness,” says eeProductCenter’s Alex Mendelsohn. “In this case, the portal towards ease of use is Microsoft Windows. This tool can help implement boundary-scan testing at the board-level or system-level as well as support board-to-board testing.Dec 29 08:56
euphohttp://www.epistep.org/artemis/docs/E...Dec 29 08:57
schestowitzJTAG....Dec 29 08:57
schestowitzDidn't they also get or harass with patents?Dec 29 08:58
euphoEU + Microsoft == real entertainment.Dec 29 08:58
schestowitzSame in the UKDec 29 08:58
schestowitzBillG + B'liar = real blastDec 29 08:58
schestowitzThe lawyers talk with influence; Microsoft talks with cashDec 29 08:59
schestowitzThey are a match made in heaven.Dec 29 08:59
euphoThe whole lobby theater works because no one is watching.Dec 29 08:59
euphoBut it is real fun.Dec 29 08:59
schestowitzYes, I knowDec 29 09:01
schestowitzThere are wise words to be said about keeping people uninterestedDec 29 09:01
euphoJungen was about to be fired by the Christian democrats for his late release of a Cologne financial report foDec 29 09:01
schestowitzKeeping them at work 9-5 and then letting them become TV zombies.Dec 29 09:01
schestowitzThey don't have time or desire to research this, which is exactly what the cronies require.Dec 29 09:01
euphoThe internet is the next television. Microsoft-EU the next soap opera, looks like  SCO-IBMis over nowDec 29 09:02
schestowitzYes, it isDec 29 09:02
schestowitzGroklaw is taking a breakDec 29 09:02
schestowitzPatents are the next "Linux stole our code"Dec 29 09:02
schestowitzAnd Novell is the tool for achieving the FUD.Dec 29 09:03
schestowitzIndia too has its share of manipulation for patentsDec 29 09:03
schestowitzSome Microsoft lackeys seem to have gotten their hands on the spigot. They push software patents.Dec 29 09:03
euphohttp://www.european-enterprise.org...Dec 29 09:05
schestowitzThat said, I have not seen any Indian articles about patents recently. Quiet is no indication of things getting better; it just means that the bad guys have more room for maneuver.Dec 29 09:05
euphoPushing for software patents in foreign jurisdictions is one thing.Dec 29 09:05
euphoPenetration of the political class anotherDec 29 09:05
schestowitzWhose group is this?Dec 29 09:05
schestowitzhttp://www.european-enterprise.or... "The price of an annual Corporate Gold Membership is EUR 20,000 + "Dec 29 09:06
schestowitzLobby for sale.Dec 29 09:06
schestowitzBuy you law now... at a discount.Dec 29 09:06
schestowitzEEIDec 29 09:07
schestowitzLike IEE in reverseDec 29 09:07
euphoPeter Jungen in the board...Dec 29 09:07
euphothese guys are not powerful, more like Vampires. No light-resistance.Dec 29 09:08
euphoE.g. Jungen also fights for tax reform.Dec 29 09:09
euphoand calls the progressive income tax 'marxist'.Dec 29 09:09
schestowitzWhat is he pushing for?Dec 29 09:12
schestowitzMcCreecy did it as well.Dec 29 09:12
schestowitzIt benefits Microsoft.Dec 29 09:12
schestowitzI wrote about it in http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/22/micr...Dec 29 09:13
euphohttp://www.euractiv.com/en/innovation/europe-de...Dec 29 09:14
*schestowitz looksDec 29 09:18
schestowitzI hate this siteDec 29 09:18
schestowitzVery pro-patentsDec 29 09:18
schestowitz"EU Education Commissioner Ján Figel'  "Dec 29 09:19
schestowitzThe apple doesn't fall far from the tree.Dec 29 09:19
schestowitz"Europe desperately lacking 'positive entrepreneurship culture' "Dec 29 09:19
schestowitzTranslation: Europe is broken; save Europe; Listen to *THAT* guyDec 29 09:20
schestowitz"However, this approach was challenged by the chair of the Finnish software entrepreneurs' association (Ohjelmistoyrittäjät)  and  CEO of Digium, Matti Heikkonen. He said entrepreneurship is not an educational issue. "Dec 29 09:20


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