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schestowitz | They used to be over 300 | Mar 02 15:50 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: in statistics | Mar 02 15:50 |
schestowitz | I'm looking at some graphs | Mar 02 15:50 |
schestowitz | Novell is almost below $3 now. Wow | Mar 02 15:51 |
deviation depends on the distribution | Mar 02 15:54 | |
schestowitz | Gaussian | Mar 02 15:55 |
schestowitz | Anyway, I got it. | Mar 02 15:55 |
then the usual rules apply, cool | Mar 02 15:56 | |
schestowitz | I'm also tracking NOVL right now | Mar 02 15:56 |
schestowitz | I want to grab a shot when it goes to $2.xx | Mar 02 15:56 |
I'm waiting for them to sink below 2.49 | Mar 02 15:57 | |
that is their 52 week low and will completely erase the greedy gains given to them by M$'s 2004 software patent attack. | Mar 02 16:00 | |
failure by greed | Mar 02 16:01 | |
schestowitz | MSFT @ $15.xx today; NOVL almost at $2.xx . Interesting times | Mar 02 16:04 |
schestowitz | I'm also hearing privately about some big news coming | Mar 02 16:05 |
schestowitz | re: Novell | Mar 02 16:05 |
schestowitz | big news from ati also | Mar 02 16:06 |
schestowitz | amd.. | Mar 02 16:06 |
good or bad? | Mar 02 16:06 | |
PetoKraus | alright guys | Mar 02 16:06 |
schestowitz | Can't tell. | Mar 02 16:06 |
PetoKraus | did you read the novell layoff thing @ phoronix? | Mar 02 16:06 |
schestowitz | Yes | Mar 02 16:06 |
schestowitz | There's more info coming | Mar 02 16:06 |
PetoKraus | that's retarded, ain't it | Mar 02 16:06 |
PetoKraus | good | Mar 02 16:06 |
PetoKraus | well | Mar 02 16:07 |
PetoKraus | i doubt it's good info | Mar 02 16:07 |
schestowitz | you'll c | Mar 02 16:07 |
PetoKraus | :) i hope | Mar 02 16:12 |
PetoKraus | 7,054,745 Method and system for generating driving directions. | Mar 02 16:37 |
PetoKraus | that's a brilliant patent | Mar 02 16:37 |
PetoKraus | does it mean everytime i tell someone how to drive to my flat | Mar 02 16:37 |
PetoKraus | i violate it? | Mar 02 16:37 |
schestowitz | maybe if you use "computer" | Mar 02 16:43 |
PetoKraus | duh | Mar 02 16:43 |
schestowitz | Or "on the Internet". That's a common one | Mar 02 16:43 |
PetoKraus | how the hell do you think i'm going to tell the person how to get here? | Mar 02 16:43 |
PetoKraus | by royal mail? | Mar 02 16:43 |
PetoKraus | smoke signals?? | Mar 02 16:43 |
PetoKraus | even a phone is a computer nowadays | Mar 02 16:44 |
PetoKraus | come on | Mar 02 16:44 |
PetoKraus | :) | Mar 02 16:44 |
PetoKraus | why is it so costly to defend yourself in patent suits? | Mar 02 16:44 |
PetoKraus | i mean, you have to pay your lawyer, and, what else? | Mar 02 16:45 |
schestowitz | Patents are good fun... like standup comedy | Mar 02 16:45 |
schestowitz | Lawyers often lobby for these laws in the first place. They make themselves jobs this way. Some monopolies like it too because only they can afford a portfolio. | Mar 02 16:46 |
PetoKraus | brb | Mar 02 16:54 |
schestowitz | Reader writes: "The EU pased the US last year: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/th... Bill's software patents will likely make sure it stays that way, unless they become a problem here, too." | Mar 02 16:54 |
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schestowitz | I worry that we're growing too fast overall though. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-... . The human population doubles almost every 20 years. | Mar 02 16:54 |
schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/content/... (Vista voted tech world's biggest fiasco) | Mar 02 16:56 |
lawsuit costs are often driven up by abusive discovery. they ask for all sorts of records in the most expensive form possible to waste your lawyer's time | Mar 02 17:19 | |
ha ha, another Vista failure | Mar 02 17:20 | |
new 52 week low for M$FT, $15.86 | Mar 02 17:21 | |
schestowitz | Typical Inquirer headline: Microsoft kicks lesbian from Xbox Live < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/206/1... > | Mar 02 17:26 |
schestowitz | Spansion files for bankruptcy protection < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news... > Isn't this old news by now? With fewer people buying new HW, they'd better take a look at some Lenny for an upgrade. XP won't last for much longer and it's already moldy and ugly | Mar 02 17:28 |
schestowitz | Microsoft WIndows is attacking the Internet again: http://www.itwire.com/conten... | Mar 02 17:29 |
schestowitz | AIG CEO on Record-Breaking Q4 Loss | Mar 02 17:36 |
schestowitz | Lost $61 billion in last Q. Puts s/w industry in perspective... so feeble. Energy industry likewise.. | Mar 02 17:38 |
schestowitz | Going public... oh dear. | Mar 02 17:38 |
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schestowitz | WTF?? | Mar 02 17:39 |
schestowitz | Chinese companies want to buy parts of AIG for nothing. | Mar 02 17:39 |
schestowitz | This is disastrous! Watch the NBS interview. http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/financ... | Mar 02 17:40 |
schestowitz | *CNBS(typo) | Mar 02 17:40 |
schestowitz | *NBS | Mar 02 17:40 |
schestowitz | *NBC (I can't type it right) | Mar 02 17:41 |
schestowitz | "SHY and retiring, softly-spoken Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer says that Apple's iPhone is about to be kicked to touch by the likes of Windows Mobile and Android operating systems." Comedy Ballmer's comment of the week < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news... > | Mar 02 17:43 |
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schestowitz | Old FUD fighting is back: http://www.handlewithlinux.com/the-u... | Mar 02 17:52 |
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balzac | Why does Steve Ballmer have nice things to say about Android? | Mar 02 18:19 |
balzac | Probably because he finds it more respectable than GNU/Linux because Android doesn't have the GNU utitilies | Mar 02 18:20 |
balzac | Microsoft reviles GNU, but they're not so stressed about Linux because Linus Torvalds is such a critic of RMS. | Mar 02 18:21 |
schestowitz | Because GNU likes freedom | Mar 02 18:22 |
schestowitz | T'so and Linus are resistant to it | Mar 02 18:22 |
tessier_ | RMS is the worst marketing person EVER. | Mar 02 18:22 |
schestowitz | They use it (now) parlty as a tool to attract more devs | Mar 02 18:22 |
schestowitz | tessier: agreed. | Mar 02 18:22 |
tessier_ | A shame that such an important concept inherited such a smart but anti-social person. | Mar 02 18:22 |
balzac | well, his software is pretty widely propagated for someone who is bad at marketing | Mar 02 18:23 |
tessier_ | Someone needs to found the Free Software Organisation | Mar 02 18:23 |
MinceR | he's not a marketing person at all. | Mar 02 18:23 |
schestowitz | Anti-social is not something I agree with | Mar 02 18:23 |
schestowitz | He is actually very social | Mar 02 18:23 |
MinceR | it's a sad world we live in because marketers matter. | Mar 02 18:23 |
schestowitz | But he disregards those who are anrti-social | Mar 02 18:23 |
tessier_ | I've met him. I like the guy. He comes off as a total dick. | Mar 02 18:23 |
schestowitz | Their indocrination system prevents them from realising it | Mar 02 18:23 |
tessier_ | Why do I like him despite his outward personality? Because I know what's underneath it. | Mar 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | Yes | Mar 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | But to say he's anti-social is to look only on the surface | Mar 02 18:24 |
tessier_ | But in a world where you have to dress professionally and at least have clean fingernails to make the sale he fails. | Mar 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | Watch his political blog | Mar 02 18:24 |
tessier_ | Right. Which is as far as most people are going to look. | Mar 02 18:24 |
tessier_ | You have to entice them to look deeper. And he can't do that. | Mar 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | He very calmly comments critically on mortal issues. | Mar 02 18:24 |
schestowitz | He went through anger management too | Mar 02 18:25 |
schestowitz | tessier: that's the 'beauty' of the 'system' | Mar 02 18:25 |
schestowitz | It repels anyone but dicks who take you for dinner | Mar 02 18:25 |
schestowitz | Does that make people from say.. Ethiopia... not worth doing business with? | Mar 02 18:25 |
schestowitz | They are likely to be more honest than people in suits | Mar 02 18:26 |
balzac | RMS doesn't need to worry about enticing people | Mar 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | But people in suits are skilled at hiding motives and also believe their lies | Mar 02 18:26 |
balzac | Does Steve Ballmer try to entice people? | Mar 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | He need to bully OEMs | Mar 02 18:26 |
schestowitz | So that 'customers' (PC shoppers) have no choice | Mar 02 18:27 |
schestowitz | PearlyG is still spending money on buying a new image | Mar 02 18:27 |
balzac | marketing or "presentation" does matter | Mar 02 18:34 |
balzac | it's not such a terrible thing | Mar 02 18:34 |
balzac | it's bad how marketing can be used to sell absolute hell | Mar 02 18:34 |
balzac | what it comes down to is that GNU-events need to have really hot booth-babes | Mar 02 18:35 |
balzac | If I make enough money, I will sponsor GNU-branded events and there will be strippers | Mar 02 18:35 |
balzac | nobody will be looking at RMS' beard when the girls start dancing | Mar 02 18:36 |
trmanco | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/a... | Mar 02 18:37 |
schestowitz | Hehe. | Mar 02 18:37 |
schestowitz | trmanco: there's more coming. TomTom's got some 'newer' news | Mar 02 18:38 |
trmanco | good or bad news? schestowitz | Mar 02 18:38 |
schestowitz | trmanco: none really, none in particular. | Mar 02 19:03 |
balzac | Senior Flash Developer Position - NYC, up to $110K | Mar 02 19:04 |
balzac | sheesh, that's a nice salary | Mar 02 19:04 |
balzac | But I quit using Flash | Mar 02 19:05 |
balzac | I need to get better at Drupal | Mar 02 19:05 |
schestowitz | An analysis of how prevalent GNU/Linux is, particularly on the server: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/03/02/gart... | Mar 02 19:05 |
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trmanco | ok | Mar 02 19:28 |
schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?... "Be carefull, GNOME Do is just another stupid Mono app financed by M$-Novell trying to parasite Linux. " | Mar 02 19:35 |
Balrog | hello again | Mar 02 19:59 |
Balrog | flash sucks, but it's not going anywhere anytime soon :/ | Mar 02 20:00 |
schestowitz | I know... Someone wrote to say "Would you consider switching that to an irc://irc.freenode.org link so it will work from GNU-Linux etc?" Should I just add <a href="irc://irc.freenode.org"></a> ? | Mar 02 20:02 |
schestowitz | Another issue was the lack of contact E-mail address :-) "I couldn't spot your email address or even a contact web-form on your blog, I had to google your name to find the email address on freshmeat! Would you consider adding your address to the site?" | Mar 02 20:03 |
schestowitz | The issue was abusive mails I was getting, so never mind that,. | Mar 02 20:03 |
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schestowitz | I yearn for some more work on Comes. I've done some googling to ensure I can get directory path by searching for doc_is (e.g. px002233). This means I can go to 3-4 mirrors for exact copy < http://iowa.gotthefacts.org/011607/ >. I wondered where they all came from. :-S | Mar 02 20:04 |
Balrog | schestowitz: which IRC link? | Mar 02 20:05 |
Balrog | and about your email, encode it some way | Mar 02 20:05 |
Balrog | like make a box with letters from your email and other letters, and make some green and red | Mar 02 20:05 |
Balrog | and tell people that the red ones are to be ignored and the green ones are part of your email | Mar 02 20:06 |
Balrog | that can be done with a graphic or with html | Mar 02 20:06 |
Balrog | yes, you'll have no clickability but it will be safer | Mar 02 20:06 |
Balrog | schestowitz: have you found any good mirrors? | Mar 02 20:07 |
Balrog | also see http://iowa.gotthefacts.org/010807/ | Mar 02 20:10 |
Balrog | seems like there is an index on the front page | Mar 02 20:11 |
schestowitz | Yes, I need these | Mar 02 20:12 |
schestowitz | Balrog: I ought to add an IRC link that's also direct | Mar 02 20:13 |
Balrog | that would help | Mar 02 20:13 |
Balrog | and not only Linux users can use these links, by the way | Mar 02 20:13 |
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wispygalaxy | hello everyone! | Mar 02 20:17 |
Balrog | hello wispygalaxy! | Mar 02 20:17 |
wispygalaxy | hey there balrog! | Mar 02 20:17 |
wispygalaxy | i have a snow day today woot | Mar 02 20:17 |
Balrog | yeah me too | Mar 02 20:17 |
wispygalaxy | cool | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | got like 8 inches of snow | Mar 02 20:18 |
Balrog | but only 1/3 classes are cancelled | Mar 02 20:18 |
Balrog | (but both are finished by now) | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | all of my classes were canceled | Mar 02 20:18 |
Balrog | cool; that's nice | Mar 02 20:18 |
schestowitz | Hi again. | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | thats good balrog, now you can relax | Mar 02 20:18 |
Balrog | here they aren't so generous | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | hu roy :D | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | hi* | Mar 02 20:18 |
Balrog | except that I have papers due :/ | Mar 02 20:18 |
schestowitz | I've just added text and link to IRC (direct) | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | thats too bad balrog :( | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | i have a case study for management class | Mar 02 20:18 |
wispygalaxy | i was about to read your posts roy | Mar 02 20:19 |
Balrog | schestowitz: where? | Mar 02 20:19 |
wispygalaxy | on the FP of BN | Mar 02 20:19 |
wispygalaxy | i just came here | Mar 02 20:19 |
wispygalaxy | my spring break is this friday haha | Mar 02 20:19 |
wispygalaxy | in this weather... | Mar 02 20:20 |
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Balrog | my spring break is from the 9th to the 18th | Mar 02 20:20 |
Balrog | monday to friday to wednesday :) | Mar 02 20:20 |
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wispygalaxy | yours is longer grrr | Mar 02 20:20 |
wispygalaxy | XD | Mar 02 20:20 |
Balrog | schestowitz: see the comment by carlo.98 here: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/26... | Mar 02 20:20 |
Balrog | :D | Mar 02 20:20 |
wispygalaxy | thanks for the link! | Mar 02 20:21 |
Balrog | (the second comment) | Mar 02 20:21 |
Balrog | by him | Mar 02 20:21 |
schestowitz | Balrog: OK, hold on. | Mar 02 20:21 |
Balrog | k | Mar 02 20:21 |
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Balrog | where? | Mar 02 20:22 |
wispygalaxy | who's carlos.98 balrog | Mar 02 20:22 |
Balrog | someone who commented on that blog post | Mar 02 20:22 |
Balrog | don't know him, but what he says is quite true | Mar 02 20:22 |
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wispygalaxy | ohhh ok, i thought it was someone from the site | Mar 02 20:22 |
Balrog | note that on this strongly mac-oriented blog, no one disagrees with him directly | Mar 02 20:22 |
wispygalaxy | this site i mean | Mar 02 20:22 |
Balrog | nope. | Mar 02 20:22 |
wispygalaxy | ok cool | Mar 02 20:23 |
schestowitz | Balrog: Roughly Drafted used to be better | Mar 02 20:23 |
wispygalaxy | the blog post is correct, what is ms gonna do haha | Mar 02 20:23 |
schestowitz | wispygalaxy: Lose money | Mar 02 20:24 |
Balrog | I know; I read them because there's still a lot correct in there. I like reading old stuff, but that site isn't well indexed | Mar 02 20:24 |
Balrog | :/ | Mar 02 20:24 |
schestowitz | As long as they can yell "market share!" | Mar 02 20:24 |
wispygalaxy | it's inevitable for them to lose money | Mar 02 20:24 |
schestowitz | I posted about this in BN an hour ago | Mar 02 20:24 |
schestowitz | See the post reg: IDC, gartner | Mar 02 20:24 |
wispygalaxy | cool roy | Mar 02 20:24 |
Balrog | I saw it. | Mar 02 20:24 |
wispygalaxy | yeah i like a good indexed site | Mar 02 20:24 |
Balrog | it's well cross-linked but not indexed | Mar 02 20:24 |
wispygalaxy | drives me crazy when that happens | Mar 02 20:25 |
Balrog | with all the cross-links there, once you start reading (older stuff) you'll be sitting for hours | Mar 02 20:25 |
schestowitz | Maybs some company in China will scoop up MSFT when it's another Citi-like rubble. | Mar 02 20:25 |
wispygalaxy | haha like wikipedia balrog | Mar 02 20:25 |
wispygalaxy | china is on a shopping spree | Mar 02 20:25 |
Balrog | hopefully the investors will realize what's going on and put a stop to this; maybe there's something that can be saved from it | Mar 02 20:25 |
schestowitz | Balrog: the indexes will come. | Mar 02 20:25 |
Balrog | I' | Mar 02 20:26 |
schestowitz | Later this year, I think. | Mar 02 20:26 |
schestowitz | I organise these in a Wiki | Mar 02 20:26 |
Balrog | I'm talking about roughlydrafted now | Mar 02 20:26 |
Balrog | it's badly indexed :( | Mar 02 20:26 |
schestowitz | The strtaure that's logical needs to be worked out because there is more than one story | Mar 02 20:26 |
schestowitz | Balrog: OH, okay.. | Mar 02 20:26 |
Balrog | finding older stuff is hard, but that older stuff is well cross-linked | Mar 02 20:26 |
schestowitz | BN too lacks indexed | Mar 02 20:26 |
schestowitz | *indexes (indices) | Mar 02 20:26 |
Balrog | yes. :/ | Mar 02 20:26 |
wispygalaxy | i still can find what i want here roy :) | Mar 02 20:27 |
wispygalaxy | do a google search | Mar 02 20:27 |
wispygalaxy | anyway, my friend told me that he wanted to try out linux mint last week | Mar 02 20:27 |
schestowitz | No brown? | Mar 02 20:27 |
Balrog | yeah but at roughlydrafted there's so much volume of old stuff ... and stuff that doesn't go out of date quickly .... so you get swamped when searching | Mar 02 20:27 |
schestowitz | Brownux | Mar 02 20:28 |
wispygalaxy | his other friend was interested too because his vista was screwed | Mar 02 20:28 |
Balrog | wispygalaxy: I got one of these http://computers.pricegrabber.com/network-storage-... at circuit city with 70% off :) | Mar 02 20:28 |
wispygalaxy | haha roy | Mar 02 20:28 |
wispygalaxy | i always change the default theme | Mar 02 20:28 |
wispygalaxy | oooo thats nice balrog | Mar 02 20:28 |
Balrog | I have ssh running on it and some other stuff. But the 16MB of RAM it has is tight | Mar 02 20:28 |
wispygalaxy | 16mb??? wow | Mar 02 20:29 |
wispygalaxy | can you run DSL on it | Mar 02 20:29 |
Balrog | yes. It's a linux kernel though | Mar 02 20:29 |
Balrog | no, it's a NAS (network-attached storage) box | Mar 02 20:29 |
wispygalaxy | oh i didnt read closely | Mar 02 20:29 |
Balrog | I have a separate router | Mar 02 20:29 |
Balrog | (without Linux) | Mar 02 20:30 |
wispygalaxy | oops i didnt see the storage device part | Mar 02 20:30 |
Balrog | but I use this to tunnel into home | Mar 02 20:30 |
wispygalaxy | whats the biggest flash drive you have | Mar 02 20:30 |
wispygalaxy | i have a 4 GB | Mar 02 20:30 |
Balrog | me? 16GB | Mar 02 20:30 |
wispygalaxy | i have a old computer that's 19 GB that used to run win 98 | Mar 02 20:31 |
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Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:31 |
wispygalaxy | got it in 1999 | Mar 02 20:31 |
Balrog | I have old computers too | Mar 02 20:31 |
wispygalaxy | from dell | Mar 02 20:31 |
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Balrog | my smallest hard drives are 20MB I think | Mar 02 20:31 |
Balrog | mostly Apple .... :) | Mar 02 20:31 |
wispygalaxy | my dad still uses floppies | Mar 02 20:31 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:31 |
wispygalaxy | he has a 1974 HP calculator | Mar 02 20:32 |
Balrog | those calculators are great | Mar 02 20:32 |
Balrog | btw | Mar 02 20:32 |
wispygalaxy | that he used when he was studying to become a mechanical engineer | Mar 02 20:32 |
wispygalaxy | thanks | Mar 02 20:32 |
Balrog | it's a 15c or 16c ? | Mar 02 20:32 |
wispygalaxy | he still uses it to this day haha | Mar 02 20:32 |
Balrog | uses RPN? | Mar 02 20:32 |
wispygalaxy | i have no clue, ill ask him and get back to you on that | Mar 02 20:32 |
wispygalaxy | :) | Mar 02 20:33 |
Balrog | (meaning you enter stuff backwards, like 2 enter 4 enter + enter and you get 6?) | Mar 02 20:33 |
wispygalaxy | i think so | Mar 02 20:33 |
wispygalaxy | oh yeah it does | Mar 02 20:33 |
Balrog | yeah that's cool | Mar 02 20:33 |
Balrog | I have a Ti-89 Ti calculator :) | Mar 02 20:33 |
wispygalaxy | when we did math homework together, he's use it XD | Mar 02 20:33 |
Balrog | :P | Mar 02 20:33 |
wispygalaxy | in my AP calculus class, a kid had that too ;) | Mar 02 20:33 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:34 |
wispygalaxy | but i still have my silver edition ti-83 plus | Mar 02 20:34 |
Balrog | yeah the silver editions are nice | Mar 02 20:34 |
Balrog | though the 89 is better in its own way | Mar 02 20:34 |
wispygalaxy | i got it for free because my regular ti-83 plus had a broken screen. it looked like as if someone spilled black ink inside it | Mar 02 20:34 |
wispygalaxy | a refund for it | Mar 02 20:34 |
Balrog | unfortunately, those things are too small (RAM and Flash) to run any alternative OS on it | Mar 02 20:35 |
wispygalaxy | the 89 looks cooler :) | Mar 02 20:35 |
Balrog | did you break it? | Mar 02 20:35 |
wispygalaxy | nope, it went like that itself | Mar 02 20:35 |
Balrog | well the dpi of the screen sure is. and it does symbolic math and calculus | Mar 02 20:35 |
wispygalaxy | i was very careful with my possessions when i was younger | Mar 02 20:35 |
Balrog | if you didn't drop it then it wasn't built right | Mar 02 20:35 |
wispygalaxy | yep it was poor quality | Mar 02 20:35 |
wispygalaxy | right before it broke, the screen would fade in and out | Mar 02 20:35 |
wispygalaxy | it was like that for 2 weeks | Mar 02 20:36 |
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Balrog | The 83+ I've worked with is ok ... sometimes dark spots would appear but they went away | Mar 02 20:36 |
wispygalaxy | and right before i had to take my big exam on conic sections for honors algebra 2 in 9th grade, it broke :( | Mar 02 20:36 |
Balrog | ew. :( | Mar 02 20:36 |
wispygalaxy | do you still have your 83 balrog | Mar 02 20:37 |
zer0c00l | gn BN | Mar 02 20:37 |
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wispygalaxy | see ya zer | Mar 02 20:37 |
Balrog | yeah though my younger brother is using it | Mar 02 20:37 |
Balrog | btw that one cost me $20 | Mar 02 20:37 |
wispygalaxy | haha i gave my tv to my lil sister | Mar 02 20:37 |
Balrog | I got a 83 (not-plus) recently for $2 | Mar 02 20:37 |
wispygalaxy | rofl | Mar 02 20:37 |
Balrog | difference: no flash memory | Mar 02 20:37 |
wispygalaxy | that's awesome | Mar 02 20:37 |
Balrog | yeah :D | Mar 02 20:38 |
wispygalaxy | it's still useable i guess :) | Mar 02 20:38 |
Balrog | sure. | Mar 02 20:38 |
wispygalaxy | i use my 83 plus for finance | Mar 02 20:38 |
wispygalaxy | everyone does | Mar 02 20:38 |
Balrog | cool. | Mar 02 20:38 |
Balrog | I'm not a finance major, so I wouldn't know. | Mar 02 20:38 |
Balrog | they don't allow calculators here for calculus by the way | Mar 02 20:39 |
wispygalaxy | it's so much like doing word problems in algebra | Mar 02 20:39 |
wispygalaxy | its a mix of calculus, economics, and algebra | Mar 02 20:39 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:39 |
Balrog | I'll go with physics :) | Mar 02 20:39 |
wispygalaxy | my dad couldnt use calculators for some of his engineering classes | Mar 02 20:39 |
Balrog | interesting | Mar 02 20:39 |
wispygalaxy | cool ;) | Mar 02 20:39 |
Balrog | throw in computer science too. :P | Mar 02 20:40 |
Balrog | so I'm a dual major in both | Mar 02 20:40 |
wispygalaxy | very dedicated :D | Mar 02 20:40 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:40 |
Balrog | too much work :/ | Mar 02 20:40 |
wispygalaxy | i can imagine :) | Mar 02 20:40 |
wispygalaxy | my roomate last year was a dual major, early childhood ed and history | Mar 02 20:40 |
Balrog | how long did that last? | Mar 02 20:41 |
wispygalaxy | 2 weeks into the school year, she switched from history to psych | Mar 02 20:41 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:41 |
wispygalaxy | she whined to her friends, "i hate reading all of these books for history" | Mar 02 20:41 |
Balrog | :P | Mar 02 20:41 |
wispygalaxy | i NEVER saw her study or go to the library | Mar 02 20:41 |
Balrog | I see. | Mar 02 20:41 |
wispygalaxy | she always drank saturday nights | Mar 02 20:41 |
Balrog | oh that doesn't help. | Mar 02 20:42 |
wispygalaxy | and played tetris on facebook with her friends on campus | Mar 02 20:42 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:42 |
Balrog | what a waste of time | Mar 02 20:42 |
wispygalaxy | i saw her math homework, it was pie charts and fractions | Mar 02 20:42 |
wispygalaxy | i'm serious | Mar 02 20:43 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:43 |
wispygalaxy | and tesselations | Mar 02 20:43 |
wispygalaxy | the text was math for developing children, something like that | Mar 02 20:43 |
Balrog | I see | Mar 02 20:43 |
wispygalaxy | almost everyone on my floor last year were history majors | Mar 02 20:44 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:44 |
wispygalaxy | or psych majors haha | Mar 02 20:44 |
Balrog | well this is a large school (that I'm going to) | Mar 02 20:44 |
Balrog | and I'm doing science, so I don't see many liberal-arts majors | Mar 02 20:44 |
wispygalaxy | i go to a medium sized school | Mar 02 20:44 |
Balrog | cool. | Mar 02 20:44 |
wispygalaxy | 90 of them here are lib arts majors | Mar 02 20:44 |
Balrog | heh I see. | Mar 02 20:45 |
wispygalaxy | i wish there were more science types here | Mar 02 20:45 |
wispygalaxy | i find them more interesting | Mar 02 20:45 |
Balrog | many here are liberal arts majors too, but I don't see them very much. | Mar 02 20:45 |
Balrog | :) | Mar 02 20:45 |
Balrog | yeah lol | Mar 02 20:45 |
wispygalaxy | yea i only see business majors a lot b/c i have only business classes now | Mar 02 20:46 |
Balrog | I see. | Mar 02 20:46 |
wispygalaxy | 2 finance, 1 mgmt, 1 mkt | Mar 02 20:46 |
wispygalaxy | 4 classes total | Mar 02 20:46 |
Balrog | I work in the computer science department (spread over several floors, but mostly on two floors) so I see computer science majors a lot :) | Mar 02 20:46 |
Balrog | I'm doing 5 classes...total of 19 credits | Mar 02 20:46 |
wispygalaxy | im friends with a comp sci major :) | Mar 02 20:47 |
wispygalaxy | thats a lot of work! | Mar 02 20:47 |
Balrog | lol | Mar 02 20:47 |
Balrog | sure is | Mar 02 20:47 |
wispygalaxy | do you study in the dorm or at the library | Mar 02 20:48 |
Balrog | I live at home | Mar 02 20:48 |
wispygalaxy | that's cool :) | Mar 02 20:48 |
Balrog | I study at home and in the CIS department ... they have rooms where you can work without being interrupted | Mar 02 20:48 |
wispygalaxy | my sis want a upscale apartment in NYC when she goes to grad school | Mar 02 20:48 |
Balrog | cool. | Mar 02 20:48 |
wispygalaxy | haha she's hilarious | Mar 02 20:48 |
wispygalaxy | we have a business lounge here in the basement | Mar 02 20:49 |
wispygalaxy | with a computer lab and vending machines | Mar 02 20:49 |
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toros | hi | Mar 02 20:49 |
wispygalaxy | hey toros | Mar 02 20:49 |
wispygalaxy | welcome to the irc channel | Mar 02 20:50 |
Balrog | heh cool | Mar 02 20:51 |
wispygalaxy | hey balrog do you get ads for chinese restaurants shoved in your dorm room under the door | Mar 02 20:51 |
wispygalaxy | i get that all the time | Mar 02 20:51 |
wispygalaxy | i get 2 on average | Mar 02 20:51 |
wispygalaxy | each week | Mar 02 20:51 |
wispygalaxy | did it happen to you last year | Mar 02 20:52 |
Balrog | I like at home | Mar 02 20:52 |
Balrog | but people do stand outside and pass around ads at tiem | Mar 02 20:52 |
Balrog | times * | Mar 02 20:52 |
wispygalaxy | oh i thought you lived in the dorms last year, sry | Mar 02 20:53 |
Balrog | nope, this is my first year :) | Mar 02 20:53 |
wispygalaxy | i get spammed everywhere, even IRL | Mar 02 20:53 |
wispygalaxy | ohhhh ok cool :) | Mar 02 20:53 |
wispygalaxy | my sis is a freshman too | Mar 02 20:53 |
Balrog | cool | Mar 02 20:53 |
wispygalaxy | shes a biology major | Mar 02 20:53 |
wispygalaxy | and my little sister wants to do law | Mar 02 20:54 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:54 |
Balrog | law is hard | Mar 02 20:54 |
wispygalaxy | i took a law course before, and there's a lot of minute details you have to memorize | Mar 02 20:54 |
wispygalaxy | last semester | Mar 02 20:54 |
wispygalaxy | so many exceptions to rules, sections of articles | Mar 02 20:55 |
wispygalaxy | to memorize | Mar 02 20:55 |
wispygalaxy | but that's my last law class ever hahas | Mar 02 20:56 |
wispygalaxy | haha* | Mar 02 20:56 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 20:56 |
wispygalaxy | there was a snowman building competition 2 hours ago here | Mar 02 20:57 |
Balrog | nice | Mar 02 20:57 |
Balrog | cd /sbin | Mar 02 20:57 |
Balrog | ls | Mar 02 20:57 |
wispygalaxy | i havent built one in years :( | Mar 02 20:57 |
Balrog | sorry | Mar 02 20:57 |
Balrog | lol | Mar 02 20:57 |
wispygalaxy | thats ok :) | Mar 02 20:57 |
wispygalaxy | i live in an area where the snow turns to rain quickly | Mar 02 20:58 |
wispygalaxy | so the snow isn't good enough | Mar 02 20:58 |
Balrog | yeah it's like that here | Mar 02 20:58 |
Balrog | but still snowing :) | Mar 02 20:58 |
wispygalaxy | it stopped here | Mar 02 20:58 |
Balrog | hm. I didn't look outside for a bit | Mar 02 20:58 |
Balrog | maybe it did stop | Mar 02 20:58 |
wispygalaxy | but it feels like 15 F due to wind chill | Mar 02 20:59 |
Balrog | heh yeah definitely | Mar 02 20:59 |
wispygalaxy | haha there's a snowball fight outside my room | Mar 02 20:59 |
Balrog | cool! | Mar 02 20:59 |
wispygalaxy | i live next to a lake and a wide patch of grass | Mar 02 20:59 |
wispygalaxy | there are still geese here, they honk all the time at night. | Mar 02 21:00 |
wispygalaxy | go south for the winter please | Mar 02 21:00 |
Balrog | :D | Mar 02 21:00 |
wispygalaxy | do you have a pet balrog? | Mar 02 21:01 |
Balrog | nope. | Mar 02 21:01 |
wispygalaxy | i have a koi and goldfish pond in my backyard | Mar 02 21:01 |
Balrog | cool. | Mar 02 21:01 |
wispygalaxy | 16 inch koi | Mar 02 21:01 |
wispygalaxy | they tend to shove the other fish out of the way when it's feeding time | Mar 02 21:01 |
Balrog | heh lol | Mar 02 21:02 |
wispygalaxy | the little ones always nibble their food, it's so cute | Mar 02 21:02 |
Balrog | yeah. | Mar 02 21:02 |
wispygalaxy | it takes them a few tried to get it down | Mar 02 21:02 |
wispygalaxy | tries* | Mar 02 21:02 |
wispygalaxy | they love the fountain when it's on, they always go under it because it feels good for them i guess | Mar 02 21:03 |
wispygalaxy | it's like a mini waterfall | Mar 02 21:03 |
Balrog | :) | Mar 02 21:03 |
wispygalaxy | they know when it's feeding time too, every day during the summer at 6PM, they crowd around the edge of the pond | Mar 02 21:04 |
wispygalaxy | and peck at the water | Mar 02 21:04 |
wispygalaxy | waiting for the food | Mar 02 21:04 |
Balrog | haha | Mar 02 21:05 |
wispygalaxy | balrog, do you plan to buy a netbook? | Mar 02 21:06 |
Balrog | possibly, not sure yet | Mar 02 21:06 |
wispygalaxy | i don't like big laptops, they take up too much space on my desk | Mar 02 21:07 |
Balrog | I do like them, as long as they have high usability | Mar 02 21:07 |
Balrog | and are relatively light | Mar 02 21:07 |
Balrog | A netbook is easier to carry though | Mar 02 21:07 |
Balrog | I could take one with me to school .... can't do so with my laptop | Mar 02 21:08 |
wispygalaxy | i have skinny arms, so carrying laptops wear me out | Mar 02 21:08 |
wispygalaxy | netbooks could probably fit in my purse | Mar 02 21:08 |
Balrog | probably | Mar 02 21:08 |
wispygalaxy | but now i'm into small purses, so i can't fit them | Mar 02 21:08 |
Balrog | heh lol | Mar 02 21:08 |
wispygalaxy | a few years ago, i had huge purses | Mar 02 21:08 |
wispygalaxy | now i know what are the essentials | Mar 02 21:09 |
Balrog | you don't have to carry textbooks? | Mar 02 21:09 |
wispygalaxy | i have a backpack for that | Mar 02 21:09 |
Balrog | oh. me too | Mar 02 21:09 |
wispygalaxy | my sister uses vera bradley bags | Mar 02 21:09 |
wispygalaxy | ill show you a link, brb | Mar 02 21:09 |
Balrog | k | Mar 02 21:09 |
schestowitz | netbooks-intel-cfriminals | Mar 02 21:10 |
schestowitz | wait for ARM | Mar 02 21:10 |
wispygalaxy | http://ameliablog.discoverymap.com/w... | Mar 02 21:10 |
Balrog | x86 can run more (currently). Though ARM is useful. my iPhone and iPod touch (both jailbroken) have ARM and run lots of things | Mar 02 21:10 |
wispygalaxy | my 16 yr old sis has that blue one | Mar 02 21:10 |
Balrog | I'd still get an x86 or x86_64 . | Mar 02 21:11 |
Balrog | wispygalaxy: cool. I don' | Mar 02 21:11 |
Balrog | I don't worry too much about that kind of stuff though | Mar 02 21:11 |
wispygalaxy | i thought so haha :) | Mar 02 21:11 |
schestowitz | Watch this: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ | Mar 02 21:11 |
schestowitz | Oops. | Mar 02 21:11 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 21:11 |
schestowitz | http://videos.zdnet.co.uk/260632244.htm | Mar 02 21:12 |
Balrog | promoting flash, huh? (lol j/k) | Mar 02 21:12 |
wispygalaxy | XD | Mar 02 21:12 |
wispygalaxy | thanks for the link, roy | Mar 02 21:12 |
Balrog | I like arm. It's great for embedded stuff | Mar 02 21:13 |
Balrog | but what's wrong with x86? | Mar 02 21:13 |
schestowitz | PC sales face 'worst-ever slump': http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technol... | Mar 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | Balrog: Intel -- don't give them money | Mar 02 21:14 |
wispygalaxy | wintel | Mar 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | Mafia either. Prison threat for Pirate Bay four <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/tec... > | Mar 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | Pirate Bay has legal Linux ISOs on it | Mar 02 21:14 |
Balrog | yeah I know it does | Mar 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | wispygalaxy: there's more to it than MS (Wintel) | Mar 02 21:15 |
schestowitz | Intel is very corrupt | Mar 02 21:15 |
schestowitz | They deserve toppling | Mar 02 21:15 |
wispygalaxy | i though so roy :) | Mar 02 21:15 |
schestowitz | ICANN President to Step Down < http://www.pcworld.com/article/160475/ic... > ICANN Head To Step Down < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/20... > | Mar 02 21:15 |
schestowitz | Re: Intel (today): The world ran out of money and loans. What does it do? "Governments worldwide plan to spend US$3 trillion in economic stimulus, said Thomas Kilroy, vice president and general manager of Intel's Digital Enterprise Group, in an interview in Bangalore." http://www.pcworld.com/article/160459/intel... | Mar 02 21:15 |
Balrog | Intel is, but their CPU engineering is (right now) at a better spot than AMD | Mar 02 21:15 |
wispygalaxy | pirate bay helps the spreading of linux | Mar 02 21:15 |
schestowitz | China expects Tibet to celebrate, or else ... < http://groups.google.com/group/soc.cultu... > AND........... Tibetan monk 'shot' while on fire < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia... > | Mar 02 21:15 |
wispygalaxy | balrog do you know machine language | Mar 02 21:15 |
Balrog | I've looked at asm | Mar 02 21:16 |
Balrog | I haven't worked with it directly | Mar 02 21:16 |
Balrog | I will be soon :) | Mar 02 21:16 |
wispygalaxy | i haven't either | Mar 02 21:16 |
wispygalaxy | i hope you find it fun! | Mar 02 21:16 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 21:16 |
Balrog | I hear conflicting reports | Mar 02 21:16 |
wispygalaxy | don't listen to the haters! | Mar 02 21:17 |
wispygalaxy | ;) | Mar 02 21:17 |
Balrog | the engineering students say it's easier than Java. The computer science students say it's harder | Mar 02 21:17 |
wispygalaxy | i can see why haha | Mar 02 21:17 |
wispygalaxy | my dad had to learn fortran | Mar 02 21:17 |
Balrog | fortran :/ | Mar 02 21:18 |
wispygalaxy | he forgot it now, though | Mar 02 21:18 |
wispygalaxy | he also forgot his french | Mar 02 21:18 |
Balrog | heh | Mar 02 21:18 |
wispygalaxy | i dont want to go through all the trouble of learning a language and then forgetting it | Mar 02 21:19 |
wispygalaxy | but i tend to easily remember things once i refresh my memory | Mar 02 21:19 |
wispygalaxy | like chemistry, took honors chem in 10th grade, forgot most of it. once people start discussing it, it all comes back to me | Mar 02 21:19 |
Balrog | cool | Mar 02 21:20 |
wispygalaxy | balrog do you plan to travel for spring break? | Mar 02 21:22 |
Balrog | nope. | Mar 02 21:22 |
wispygalaxy | i might, not sure | Mar 02 21:22 |
Balrog | too busy | Mar 02 21:22 |
Balrog | cool | Mar 02 21:22 |
wispygalaxy | aww that's too bad | Mar 02 21:22 |
trmanco | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulato... | Mar 02 21:22 |
trmanco | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.co... | Mar 02 21:22 |
wispygalaxy | hi trmanco | Mar 02 21:23 |
trmanco | hello | Mar 02 21:23 |
Balrog | hi trmanco | Mar 02 21:23 |
wispygalaxy | i remember you from a couple weeks ago here | Mar 02 21:23 |
trmanco | hi Balrog | Mar 02 21:23 |
trmanco | wispygalaxy, I don't :| | Mar 02 21:23 |
wispygalaxy | that's ok haha | Mar 02 21:23 |
wispygalaxy | i was here for a short time though | Mar 02 21:24 |
trmanco | did we talk? | Mar 02 21:24 |
wispygalaxy | i think so | Mar 02 21:25 |
wispygalaxy | with schestowitz | Mar 02 21:25 |
trmanco | about what? | Mar 02 21:25 |
wispygalaxy | i think NASA and linux | Mar 02 21:25 |
PetoKraus | heya wispygalaxy | Mar 02 21:26 |
schestowitz | trmanco: wispygalaxy is one of the girls from Digg. | Mar 02 21:26 |
wispygalaxy | pk! hey there | Mar 02 21:26 |
schestowitz | Next possible superpower (when they acquire dying US asets that are in debt and denial): China's lunar probe lands on moon < http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/as... > | Mar 02 21:26 |
trmanco | hmm, I definitely don't remember | Mar 02 21:26 |
PetoKraus | trmanco: getting old, eh? | Mar 02 21:26 |
Balrog | heh digg | Mar 02 21:26 |
schestowitz | Maybe it was just "wispy" the last time. | Mar 02 21:26 |
Balrog | I don't go there much | Mar 02 21:26 |
wispygalaxy | that's ok trmanco | Mar 02 21:26 |
schestowitz | PetoKraus: hehe. Don't say that. | Mar 02 21:26 |
trmanco | wispygalaxy, what is you digg name? | Mar 02 21:26 |
wispygalaxy | yes, i used the "wispy" nym | Mar 02 21:26 |
schestowitz | trmanco: are you 19 or 91? | Mar 02 21:27 |
wispygalaxy | wispygalaxy | Mar 02 21:27 |
trmanco | PetoKraus, hmmm, I might | Mar 02 21:27 |
PetoKraus | :) yeah | Mar 02 21:27 |
PetoKraus | we're old, trmanco, face it | Mar 02 21:27 |
PetoKraus | :O | Mar 02 21:27 |
trmanco | schestowitz, I don't remember, maybe 91, yeah, you are right, let me count the years! :-P | Mar 02 21:27 |
PetoKraus | i'm afraid to even check my account for the money i don't have there | Mar 02 21:28 |
PetoKraus | and payday was three days ago | Mar 02 21:28 |
trmanco | PetoKraus, oh, yeah, I'm already retired | Mar 02 21:28 |
wispygalaxy | who goes to college here | Mar 02 21:28 |
wispygalaxy | i do | Mar 02 21:28 |
PetoKraus | me. | Mar 02 21:28 |
PetoKraus | well, it's a uni. | Mar 02 21:28 |
trmanco | wispygalaxy, found ya | Mar 02 21:28 |
wispygalaxy | cool | Mar 02 21:29 |
wispygalaxy | you can call it a uni here too | Mar 02 21:29 |
Balrog | heh me, but yhou know that already | Mar 02 21:29 |
*trmanco clicked Add Friend | Mar 02 21:29 | |
wispygalaxy | haha thanks | Mar 02 21:29 |
schestowitz | How on earth foes a company make a HDD compatible only with Windows??? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-10... | Mar 02 21:29 |
schestowitz | "Alas, according to the specs, the FreeAgent is compatible only with Windows XP and later models of Microsoft's operating system. You may be able to reformat the drive to work with a Mac or Linux system, but I'm not an expert in that area. (If you are, hit the comments.)" | Mar 02 21:29 |
schestowitz | "Holy massive storage, Batman! I thought a 1-terabyte external drive for $99 was a killer deal, but Dell is offering a 1.5TB Seagate FreeAgent USB drive for $112.49. No rebates, free shipping, smokin' bargain." | Mar 02 21:29 |
trmanco | schestowitz, that is what they all say | Mar 02 21:29 |
PetoKraus | :/ | Mar 02 21:29 |
PetoKraus | anyway | Mar 02 21:29 |
wispygalaxy | the double major, balrog, how can i forget? :) | Mar 02 21:29 |
Balrog | lol | Mar 02 21:30 |
PetoKraus | i'd like to get a usb thermometer | Mar 02 21:30 |
PetoKraus | among other things | Mar 02 21:30 |
PetoKraus | which works with linux | Mar 02 21:30 |
Balrog | the FreeAgent is just another external hard drive | Mar 02 21:30 |
schestowitz | Some Oracle Ripoffux news today.. Ellison (et al) thinks of community as "community of investors". He won't appeal to GNU/Linux aficionados. Hmmmm.. they squuezed in some older items in there so they claim an age of 8 years... < http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4247 > | Mar 02 21:30 |
wispygalaxy | there are a lot of funny things that come in usb form | Mar 02 21:31 |
schestowitz | Like ovens? | Mar 02 21:31 |
trmanco | bears | Mar 02 21:31 |
wispygalaxy | like the teddy bear without the head | Mar 02 21:31 |
wispygalaxy | haha yes | Mar 02 21:31 |
trmanco | yeah | Mar 02 21:31 |
schestowitz | They just pick up the power | Mar 02 21:31 |
schestowitz | You can do USB lamps | Mar 02 21:31 |
Balrog | a USB thermometer should report the data back to the host system | Mar 02 21:31 |
wispygalaxy | i have a boring silver one | Mar 02 21:31 |
PetoKraus | YAEHDD | Mar 02 21:31 |
PetoKraus | it's bad when you give student money | Mar 02 21:31 |
PetoKraus | and Scotch for €£1.50 | Mar 02 21:31 |
PetoKraus | :) | Mar 02 21:32 |
PetoKraus | we had this idea | Mar 02 21:32 |
trmanco | lol | Mar 02 21:32 |
PetoKraus | there was one which used 3.5 jack | Mar 02 21:32 |
wispygalaxy | the thermometer sounds really cool | Mar 02 21:32 |
schestowitz | There's Linux-only tuxroid.. what was it called? | Mar 02 21:32 |
PetoKraus | so we were like | Mar 02 21:32 |
wispygalaxy | i want the tuxroid :P | Mar 02 21:32 |
PetoKraus | let's plug it into the pc | Mar 02 21:32 |
PetoKraus | record the data as a waveform | Mar 02 21:32 |
PetoKraus | speed it up | Mar 02 21:32 |
schestowitz | California in drought emergency < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/... > Setting ‘Green’ Goals: "The Obama budget promises what it calls a comprehensive effort to address global warming, slash oil imports and create a new “green” economy that produces millions of new jobs." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/wa... | Mar 02 21:32 |