Bonum Certa Men Certa

Microsoft Alleged to Have Tricked People Into Switching to Bing, Using a Rogue Site

Black background



Summary: Rogue site harms people's computers by installing "a toolbar and chang[ing] their search provider and home page to Bing."

Included in the logs just posted is a story we only posted in daily links due to lack of time. The short story is that Microsoft is in the midst of another Bong [sic] scandal and shortly after it was revealed Microsoft retreated from it:

Is Facebook’s third largest advertiser really a site that tries to trick people into switching to Bing? Apparently not. Still, Bing’s not happy with the tactics and is ending its relationship with the publisher. The site, Make-My-Baby.com, now appears to have gone down. But earlier today, it was suggesting that people needed a plug-in to use it — one that would install a toolbar and change their search provider and home page to Bing. The site had allowed people to create baby characters....OK, I have some more answers from Bing. Make-My-Baby was an affiliate of Zugo....Bing also confirmed that it continues to have a relationship with Zugo. That also means that all the people who had their pages changed by Make-My-Baby will continue to get redirected to the benefit of both Zugo and Bing, as best I can tell, despite the fact that they were obtained in a way that Bing disagrees with.


Our readers did not all buy Microsoft's story and to quote last night's conversation about it:

DaemonFCI guess they got sick of all the "Why doesn't Last.FM work?" posts22:32
oiaohmDon't worry its normally only temp.  MinceR22:33
oiaohmFirst stage create more jobs than what is required.22:34
oiaohmSecond stage restruct the departments because they are  too expensive.22:34
oiaohmThird stage sacked too many todo the jobs.22:34
oiaohmthen return to first stage.22:35
oiaohmThis is kinda a never ending goverment cycle.22:35
--> cubezzz has joined this channel (~cubeman@maxhost.org).22:35
--> tessier has joined this channel (~treed@mail.copilotco.com).22:35
--> TRIdentica has joined this channel (~twitfolk@216.105.40.114).22:35
--> TRT has joined this channel (~twitfolk@216.105.40.114).22:35
oiaohm"first time the FCC has ever allowed discrimination on the Internet"  Boy people have short memories.22:36
oiaohmComputserv anyone.22:36
MinceRCompuServe isn't internet, afaik22:37
oiaohmIt was a wrapper over the internet that was used to restrict access.22:37
--> twitter has joined this channel (~pbj@173-17-111-185.client.mchsi.com).22:40
twitterRead Write web notices that a toolbar scam is part of Bing market share gain.  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_3rd_biggest_advertiser _is_a_bing_affilia.php22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Facebook's 3rd Biggest Advertiser is (Allegedly) a Bing Affiliate Scam (With Updates)  .::. Size~: 74.46 KB22:41
twitterThat and the forced default on cell phones, new computers inflicted with Windows, etc.22:42
oiaohmtwitter: Problem is I cannot see who is behind that.22:43
MinceRduh22:44
MinceRit's m$22:44
twitteryou really can't tell where hundreds of thousands of dollars for a make_my_baby.com scam comes from?22:44
MinceRthey're still struggling to get people to use bìng22:44
twitterno one would put up that kind of money on their own.22:44
twitterIt had to come from Microsoft.22:44
MinceRthey used to pay people to make them use whatever bìng happened to be called at the time22:45
MinceRthis is a different approach to the same goal22:45
oiaohmI have not looked close enough at that.22:45
oiaohmto check if the 3rd biggest has hidden any other back doors.22:46
twitterthis one hides in the fine print and the usual "you need a plugin to do this"22:46
oiaohmExactly what else is in the plugin twitter22:46
twitterthey are obvious frauds, ohm.22:46
oiaohmI know they are frauds22:46
oiaohmBut are they are bot net master as well.22:46
twitterso there's no telling what kind of malware they push22:47
oiaohmReally the total mix of malware will give us a better clue who they are.22:47
twitterjust like there's no telling what Microsoft sends back to themselves via Vista and Windows 7 encrypted communications22:48
twitterIt's someone who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote Bing.  They might also be a bot herder but that is irrelevant and the Bing issue is proved.22:49
<-- abeNd-org has left this server (Quit: Leaving.).22:49
twitterMicrosoft disowned them, as they do all of their scape goats.22:49
DaemonFCCompuserve was an AOL-type service, walled garden22:50
DaemonFCthey both added internet access later22:50
DaemonFCthen AOL bought Compuserve22:50
DaemonFCfor a while, the Compuserve browser was based on Gecko, not IE/Trident22:50
DaemonFCI think it went back to IE though22:50
DaemonFCthere was a beta version of AOL that used Gecko22:51
oiaohmAOL netscape22:51
twitterMicrosoft Software, so bad the company has to pay people to use it.22:51
DaemonFCno, the AOL client22:51
DaemonFCthere was a beta you had to be invited to22:51
DaemonFCit used Gecko as the AOL browser's renderer22:51
twitterAOL bought Netscape, it was unnatural for them to not use the browser.22:52
oiaohmWhen AOL bought netscape they did a hybred.22:52
oiaohmGecko trident22:52
DaemonFCthey never really used Netscape much22:52
oiaohmIn the AOL browser and in netscape22:52
oiaohmWhat was basically the same thing.22:52
twitterIt was gone in the blink of an eye, then they fired the developers.22:52
DaemonFCthe Windows version uses IE/Trident and the Mac version uses Webkit22:53
DaemonFCway back when, they used their own rendering engine though22:53
twitterDaemonFC, uses AOL on Mac?  Wow!22:53
MinceRlol22:53
DaemonFCyes, it has Topspeed Technology to make my 56k modem go VROOM22:54
DaemonFCuh huh22:54
DaemonFC:)22:54
MinceRthat can't be good for the modem :>22:54
twitterzzzzoooooommmmmm22:54
--> dtech has joined this channel (5da06baa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.160.107.170).22:54
twitterhave fun with the Bing news.  That search engine is not going anywhere soon.22:55
<-- twitter has left this channel.22:55
* DaemonFC throws a Winmodem at Mincer22:55
* MinceR parries it with a BFS22:55
[Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Another Software Company’s CEO (Named Steve) Expected to Leave http://is.gd/oyxBuS #microsoft #ballmer #xbox #kin22:57
[Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Software Company’s CEO (Named Steve) Expected to Leave http://is.gd/oyxBuS #microsoft #ballmer #xbox #kin #vista22:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Software Company’s CEO (Named Steve) Expected to Leave | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.89 KB22:57
oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTAwNQ  I guess you have both seen this.22:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Software Company’s CEO (Named Steve) Expected to Leave | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.89 KB22:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] ULatencyD Enters The Linux World .::. Size~: 16.74 KB22:57
MinceRoh, according to "How Does This Work?", it could be independent of m$22:57
MinceRsince it benefits Zugo as well22:58
MinceRvia affiliate commissions22:58
oiaohmMinceR: link22:58
MinceRsame article22:59
MinceR( http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_3rd_biggest _advertiser_is_a_bing_affilia.php )22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Facebook's 3rd Biggest Advertiser is (Allegedly) a Bing Affiliate Scam (With Updates)  .::. Size~: 74.46 KB22:59
MinceRthere's a sidebar titled "How Does This Work?" on that page23:00


So what do you think? Innocent or damage control?

Recent Techrights' Posts

In Techrights, Gemini and HTTP/HTML Are Very Different
Those were never equivalents or mirrors, those are two things that are inherently different and are maintained by different teams
"The War on Children" Explained by The Cyber Show
Consumer protection and the war on children
 
Hate Consumes the Haters
If you hate someone (or something) and you're willing to do anything for "hate rituals", then at the end the emotion will outweigh reason and it'll backfire, surely
GNU/Linux Rises Some More Internationally, statCounter Now Estimates Its Usage on Desktops/Laptops at 7.7%
significant growth for GNU/Linux in Japan, China, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia and Cambodia
IBMers on PIPs and the Age (or Cost) Factor
People in their 50s seem to be targeted as they are considered "expensive"
Sad State of Troll-Feeding British Media (Establishment Channels Promoting Total Idiots)
Breeding ignorance means people will assume they have a choice between two pieces of trash: "Nige" or a literal trash can
Links 27/07/2026: Sleepless Japan PM Takaichi Becomes Unpopular and Data Centre Magnate Confiscate Land Without Consent
Links for the day
A Few Hours Ago The Register MS Published an 'Article' With "AI" 32 Times in It, Including First Word in Headline and Summary. It Was Paid SPAM "Sponsored by Hammerspace".
The lost media is engaging in self-harm
Microsoft is Down
This relates in a timely fashion to what we published yesterday
Gemini Links 27/07/2026: Gemified Internet RFCs, “Junk DNA” Is Commented-Out Code, and More
Links for the day
The Techrights Gemini Capsule Was Never a Mirror
Techrights has long taken accessibility quite seriously
Americans Are Not Our Masters
If you are subjected to online abuse, don't give up
Daniel Pocock Campaigns Around "Safety of Children Online" and "Cybersecurity"
There seems to be a growing 'coalition' in the UK based around important issues which impact the entire planet
XBox the Console is Practically Finished (Unofficially), Even the Streaming ("Live") or DRM Service is Dead
XBox has never been closer to profitability
Many CEOs Are Just Glorified Scammers With Suits and Ties
Economies cannot function when few people abuse them for self-enrichment
After statCounter Figures Out Many "Unknowns" Were in Fact GNU/Linux the "Market Share" Estimate in China More Than Doubles
Japan is the same for similar reasons
peppe8o - a Site About Raspberry Pi, Arduino and Electronics - Has Turned Into a Slopfarm
We won't be linking to it anymore
Feeding 'the Children'
Maybe some time soon we'll do a fund-raiser to help feed the birds
Japan: GNU/Linux Crosses the 5% Threshold, Two Years Ago It Was Only 1%
Now it's at over 5%
We Need More Transparency
Our heads of state are very much aware of and concerned about SLAPPs and censorship
EPO Cocainegate and Current EPO/EU Series to Carry on for Months to Come
Another week has begun
When IBM "Managers Have to Mark 15% of Their Teams as Low Performers" a PIP Means Likely Layoffs (Disguised as a Performance Issue)
"IBM is a Law firm with an I/T department."
Links 27/07/2026: Chatbots Lead to Suicides, Social Control Media Intentionally Designed for Addiction
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, July 26, 2026
IRC logs for Sunday, July 26, 2026
Daniel Pocock in Mainstream Media Again
AFR wrote an article today. It is about Pocock and another contender.
Millions of Daily Requests
4.5+ million requests in 4 days
In statCounter, a Lot of "Unknown" Turns Out to be GNU/Linux
GNU/Linux has more than doubled
3,500 Active Gemini Capsules Soon
How much longer before 3,500+ active? A month?
Gemini Links 26/07/2026: European Eclipse, Writing About Writing, and Comments on Formatting Gopher Posts
Links for the day
Stigma of Being Laid Off by Microsoft
One might call this the "curse" of having worked for Microsoft
Silent Layoffs (PIPs) Have Allegedly Accelerated Since IBM's Stock Cratered
"IBM is Managing Decline, Not Building Growth"
Non-Techs Using Slop Run Fedora and It's Turning Out to be a Total Disaster
RIP, Fedora?
Gemini Links 26/07/2026: Beach Day, CAs, and Plaintext
Links for the day
Sweden Needs GNU/Linux and Free Software, Not GAFAM
home of IKEA and ABBA
Being Pro-Slop is Death Knell to One's Credibility
It's not hard to see Ubuntu users resisting and antagonising this
Maintenance Today
Preparing for more mass-publication activities
Links 26/07/2026: "Zelenskyy Says Russia Wants To Bring North Korean Troops Into Ukraine", Muslim Van Ramming Attack on Berlin Pride
Links for the day
Centrica fraud exposed: worse than Palestine Action 'terrorists' with cardboard placards
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 26/07/2026: "Nate Silver Discovers the Educated Poor" and "India’s “Cockroach” Protest Movement Faces State Repression"
Links for the day
The Slop Bubble is Killing the Planet, Not Just the Economy
The chatbot/LLM speculation bubble not only causes a health crisis, a mental health epidemic, and climate change; it's also crashing the economy on several levels
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 25, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, July 25, 2026
IBM Hammers a CoI Into a CoCed Fedora, RIP Fedora?
Also in the "Fedora is dead" dept. today
Gemini Links 25/07/2026: Zoo, MUD, Literature, EMF Camp, and e-ID
Links for the day
European Patent Office (EPO) Series: The Solution of No Choice: A Shortlist of One
deployment of the "shortlist of one" by Campinos
Wife of Dan Williams Has Explained Mental Factors Leading to His Death
"We need to be open and honest about mental health," his wife pleads
Several New Series Coming Soon
we'll publish 8 series in tandem, in parallel
Insolvency as the New Norm in the United States' Economy
this is vastly worse than then 2008 subprime mortgage crisis
IBM's CEO Might 'Retire' or 'Step Down' by Christmas
PIP the CEO
Misleading Articles About YouTube and Google Financial Performance
The future of Google is self-serving monopolisation and destruction of the Web
Microsoft Cannot Survive the Fall of Windows
It has amassed way too much debt
Links 25/07/2026: Hong Kong Squashing Criticism/Dissent, Mirror Caught Breaking Into Voicemail
Links for the day
PIPs Are Shrinking IBM and "IBM is Managing Decline, Not Building Growth"
IBM is going down the drain
IBM is Killing the Fedora Community, Replacing It With LLM Slop From IBM Staff
Krishna buys companies only to gut them. They've all learned this from experience.
Give Me Your "Dumbest" (Devices)
Why can't people accept that a "modern "smart" "phone" isn't necessary to check the time (overkill) and playing social control media "on the go" is far from necessary?
Earlier This Year Dan Williams Prepared for Scenario Where Linus Torvalds Dies
He had only just started a job at NVIDIA
Links 25/07/2026: Data Breaches Abundant and Attribution Imperiled in the Age of Slop Hype
Links for the day
Gemini Links 25/07/2026: Poetry and Plaintext Pages
Links for the day
What is Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.)
In many cases, the acronym became a misnomer
IBM PIPs Continue Until Morale Improves, Silent or Quiet Firings at IBM Explained
IBM is a dying company
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, July 24, 2026
IRC logs for Friday, July 24, 2026