MR. JOBS Is gone, but his legacy remains for all of us to suffer from. Several readers have urged us to write about this legacy, but we were collecting existing feedback (as the subject was thoroughly covered in the big publications).
"Fabricating evidence, dozens of actions to ban the competition and various other cases of aggression are not an achievement."One person who was once working at MIT told us that Steve Jobs had pressured MIT to keep fostering the GNU project because it was valuable to the industry. But just look what Apple turned into a couple of decades later. Apple is becoming almost worse than Microsoft in certain aspects. And based on new reports, Steve Jobs was very much at the core of the abusive behaviour inside Apple. We shall come to this in a moment.
Over at USENET, Ron quotes Jobs as saying that Microsoft is "mostly irrelevant". This comes from a new biographical book. About Microsoft and its CEO, Steve Ballmer: "In the final pages of the book, written in Mr. Jobs's own words, he described Microsoft as "mostly irrelevant" and said companies like it often ran aground when they were run by salespeople. He singled out Apple's former chief executive, John Sculley, and Microsoft's chief executive, Steve Ballmer, as examples, adding that he didn't think Microsoft would change as long as Ballmer was in charge."
“Bill [Gates] is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he's more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology. He just shamelessly ripped off other people's ideas.”
--Steve JobsAbout Bill Gates: "Bill is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he's more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology. He just shamelessly ripped off other people's ideas."
Gates is now promoting patents, just like Jobs does (even after his death).
"Unfortunately," writes Ron, "Jobs seemed incapable of looking in the mirror and applying this to himself."
"We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas," said Steve Jobs. “As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours,”said Bill Gates. They use the word "steal" very spuriously and, as we shall see in a moment, they also make such accusations against Linux/Android, where sharing is encouraged and the word "steal" is hardly ever used. According to TalkAndroid, the "upcoming biography, Steve Jobs, by Walter Isaacson is scheduled for release next week, but the Associated Press got a copy early. From their descriptions, it sounds like there is some pretty bombshell stuff scrawled on the pages within. Apparently Steve Jobs was so vehemently agitated by Android that no monetary settlements with Google would ever be made. He had every intention to fire all of his guns at once, in effort to obliterate Android from the marketplace. Straight from the book, you’ll find this, quite frankly kind of disturbing, quote,
"“I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong,” Jobs said. “I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this.”"
"Apple sure is scared of Linux/Android and evidence of this is undeniable."It also says that "[i]n a subsequent meeting with Schmidt at a Palo Alto, California, cafe, Jobs told Schmidt that he wasn’t interested in settling the lawsuit..."
The quote goes line this (assuming one kept accurate record of it): “I don’t want your money. If you offer me $5 billion, I won’t want it. I’ve got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that’s all I want.”
Apple sure is scared of Linux/Android and evidence of this is undeniable.
We know that there are Apple fans out there who attempt to discredit Android and back Apple's position, but a lot of rebuttals have been written already. To quote one from Homer, "Jobs vowed to "destroy" Android with his "last dying breath"," his USENET message goes like this:
"Some sources alleged that Jobs also resorted to "alternative medicine" (placebo treatment) rather than procedures that could save his life."He is referring to other reports based on the book, referring specifically to Steve Jobs' drug use, which is more of a personal angle. "So this patent aggression with a $40bn war chest is completely premeditated. Any judge looking at that should think very carefully about the judgments that are being handed down. No one has the right to sue every tom dick and harry because they got money in the bank and want to grab even more by manufacturing reasons and using the courts to hand out verdicts that are systematically unfair given the *whole* picture."
He adds: "Far east manufacturing companies should also look hard at servicing any more orders from Apple. Unless they undertake written commitments by Apple to not sue you or your customers who are buying androids components and devices from you, you should avoid doing business and definitely not share your best tech with Apple.
"Most far east companies now gift their most advanced technologies to open source, Linux and Android companies. They make a lot more money doing that than go play judge and jury games with Apple's patent trolling management who are out trying to impoverish any and all companies that do business with Apple."
For those who are interested in the personal issues with Jobs, there is this article from a reputable source. One poster in USENET jokingly wrote: "The whole empire was built on LSD addiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
From the article: "The 630-page account of the technology pioneer's life reveals intimate details of his relationships, how he was influenced by LSD and railed against executives at Apple who, he believed, cared more about making money than good products."
But as we later found out, Jobs was willing to blow $40 billion on just destroying Android. What will shareholders say? "Apple should spend their $40bn cleaning up their electronics manufacturing waste mess in their China factories and pay the locals compensation before these factories are all shut down," writes the USENET poster.
To quote more from the article: "Jobs also describes how taking LSD had "reinforced my sense of what was important: creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.""
More mysticism. Some sources alleged that Jobs also resorted to "alternative medicine" (placebo treatment) rather than procedures that could save his life. But that again is a personal angle which does not relate to the technical and cannot be properly verified (Wikileaks also contains alleged evidence of Jobs having HIV).
"Jobs then proceeded to renounce greed by ... making a $337 billion company and an $8.6 billion personal fortune, without ever donating even a single dime to charity, and "reinforced his sense of what was important" by ... selling trivial toy gadgets, then went on to oppress any competition with patent extortion and litigation, thuggishly and hypocritically hoarding ideas he merely stole from others, whilst vowing with his dying breath to destroy everyone else, like a frothing maniac," wrote another poster. "Yup, definitely the hallucinatory effects of LSD. Of course it helps if one is already an evil bastard in the first place."
As the latter poster put it: "It's hard to work with addicts and their violent character, particularly in a business environment where getting the work done and taking responsibilities are a big part of daily chores to bring in the daily bread. I pity all who were his coworkers. I hope they sue the crap out of Apple if they were subject to daily abuse from drug addicted management.
"Does the man behind ARM know that Steve Jobs claim credit for things he never came up with?"Now, that was funny. We find it flattering that one might draw a connection between us and the FSF (none exists).
The only thing Android stole was Jobs' thunder. Richard Stallman was right about Jobs. And just because we agree with the FSF on many issues does not mean we are, in fact, in any way related to it. We are 100% independent. We always were.
This afternoon I had the pleasure of sitting down in a local coffee shop talking to a Ph.D. graduate of Sir Stephen Furber, who is one of 'the' public faces of ARM. Does the man behind ARM know that Steve Jobs claim credit for things he never came up with? Either way, the man I spoke to detests Apple for many of the reasons we covered here over the years. ⬆
Comments
Michael
2011-10-23 16:37:35
FUD: ----- Fabricating evidence, dozens of actions to ban the competition and various other cases of aggression are not an achievement. Exploiting Free software and other people’s ideas is not an achievement, either. ----- There is no evidence of Apple fabricating evidence (they used forged images given to them that they were not allowed to verify); they have been upheld by multiple courts as being correct in wanting to ban copy-cat products, and their is no example offered to even know what Roy means by their "aggression". As far as "exploiting" open source software, even Linus Torvalds says: ----- I agree that it’s driven by selfish reasons, but that’s how all open source code gets written! We all “scratch our own itches”. It’s why I started Linux, it’s why I started git, and it’s why I am still involved. It’s the reason for everybody to end up in open source, to some degree.
So complaining about the fact that Microsoft picked a selfish area to work on is just silly. Of course they picked an area that helps them. That’s the point of open source – the ability to make the code better for your particular needs, whoever the ‘your’ in question happens to be.
Does anybody complain when hardware companies write drivers for the hardware they produce? No. That would be crazy. Does anybody complain when IBM funds all the POWER development, and works on enterprise features because they sell into the enterprise? No. That would be insane.
So the people who complain about Microsoft writing drivers for their own virtualization model should take a long look in the mirror and ask themselves why they are being so hypocritical. -----
The same, of course, applies to Apple and others who use open source software. Roy shows he does not understand the very basis of the open source philosophy! And he *also* benefits from open source - this he is hypocritical in his whining about how others do.
FUD: ----- Gates is now promoting patents, just like Jobs does (even after his death). ----- Does Roy not understand people do *nothing* once they are dead?
FUD: ----- Apple sure is scared of Linux/Android and evidence of this is undeniable. ----- Roy makes this claim but then offers *no* evidence of Apple being "scared of Linux/Android". Not a word of support nor a shred of evidence. Roy is misrepresenting Jobs' anger at his view Android was copying Apple's iOS.
The reality is Android did "borrow" from iOS... and iOS has "borrowed" from Android as well. It is pretty clear Android has gotten more from iOS then the other way. Is this enough to justify Jobs' anger? I do not pretend to know... though the quoted comments do seem over the top for me. But Roy completely avoids this topic and opts to spew FUD instead.
FUD: ----- No one has the right to sue every tom dick and harry because they got money in the bank and want to grab even more by manufacturing reasons and using the courts to hand out verdicts that are systematically unfair given the *whole* picture.” ----- Nobody is claiming anyone has any such right. Roy is misrepresenting the claims of Jobs and Apple. Nobody other than Roy is talking about "manufacturing reasons". Roy is out and out lying.
FUD: ----- From the article: “The 630-page account of the technology pioneer’s life reveals intimate details of his relationships, how he was influenced by LSD and railed against executives at Apple who, he believed, cared more about making money than good products.”
But as we later found out, Jobs was willing to blow $40 billion on just destroying Android. ----- Jobs speaks highly if his use of LSD. Roy twists this to claim Jobs had an LSD addiction. Another out and out lie by Roy.
And then Roy quotes material showing Jobs was not focused just on money, but then cannot see why Jobs' anger at Android copying iOS can be about anything other than money. Roy is just lost. He does not understand how someone could be angered by immorality.
FUD: ----- Last night we saw funny comment from a troll, who said: “The steve jobs attacks are funded by the FSF, and carried out by Techrights and its supporters.”
“Does the man behind ARM know that Steve Jobs claim credit for things he never came up with?”Now, that was funny. We find it flattering that one might draw a connection between us and the FSF (none exists). ----- Roy calls others names ("a troll") and does not give the context. This was in response to the idiotic claims that those who point out the false "advocate" FUD of Roy and his friends *must* be getting funded by Microsoft, as if only Microsoft is interested in truth.
Needs Sunlight
2011-10-23 18:46:07
Jobs was not exactly at his best for the last 3 or 4 years but he did say something quite relevant before that in 2005 about death is 'life's change agent'