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Re: FSF negociations

>I need a poll on how positive or negative you guys are on these FSF requests:
>1. Install 100% unstripped executables on the hard disk.
>2. Install source code on the hard disk whenever the binary package is
>   installed.
>3. Make X-Windows, Emacs, and VI standard, not optional, parts of the system.

I wonder how "non optional" they need to be... ie. are we within the
spirit of the request if stopping the installation before installing
everything in step 3 still works gracefully :-)

As for 1+2 -- they'd be nice *options* -- perhaps we need a dpkg.conf :-)

As for unstripped executables -- I'll note that it should be trivial
to add an option to strip to strip everything *but* the .stab and
 .stabstr sections (objcopy already has --remove-section, we just need
the inverse) and gdb handles a seperate "symbol-file" already... so if
building the package produced seperate executables and symbol files,
they could be optionally installed or not. (Yeah, they'd still add
*some* space... but Ian Taylor just got an ELF version of the bfd
a.out stabs-compression code working (doesn't affect readers, just
writers, it does a kind of "common-subexpression-elimination" on the
symbol table strings, which have a *lot* of common substrings) which
may help space-wise... and then you can gzip them as well, since
they'll be in seperate files...)

Alright, I'll shut up now and go off and try some of these... it
certainly shouldn't hold up 1.1, but perhaps I can get some
"engineering results" that will shake some of the common assumptions :-)

					_Mark_ <eichin@cygnus.com>
					Cygnus Support, Eastern USA