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Re: really rough first draft of release announcement

From: Christian Meder <christian.meder@utoronto.ca>
> But the sentence with "Debian space missions" is a perhaps a bit too
> strong.

OK

	Two more space missions carrying Debian are already scheduled.

> 
> > Mention "alien", but don't dwell so much on it.
> 
> OK
> 
>     We were the first to provide automatic conversion of package types,
>     and you can automaticaly convert between RPM, Slackware, and Debian
>     packages.

Look at Joey's proposal for clarification.

> I would move it higher.

* Free on-line support from our large user community on the debian-user
  mailing list. Many questions are answered in minutes, with positive results.

> I think an important Debian advantage compared to RedHat's ftp install
> is that we don't have to search in any archives when upgrading.

Is this an automatic process for them?

	* Upgrade automaticaly via FTP.

> * our bug-list is publically available and we encourage all Debian
> users to give feedback to the Debian maintainers via the bug handling
> system and so to help fixing bugs or improving packages 

Shortened to appear in two lines lines in the announcement:
	* We don't keep our bug-list secret - it's on our web server,
	  and every user has the power to access our bug system and add their
	  feedback.
 
> * We don't keep our bug-list secret - it's on our web server.

It's kind of a jab at the guys who do keep their bug-list secret.
There are a lot of them! Does it really read poorly?

> > 
> > > I'd like it if we could somehow convince the developer community that
> > > is creating "contrib RPM's" for Red Hat that they would be better off
> > > developing for Debian instead - ie. inclusion in the base distribution,
> > > the bug system, wide distribution, not making money for someone else,
> > > supportive user and developer community, fame and recognition,
> > > more of a global focus, etc.
> 
> This is a very good point.

I think I'd like to put this in a second announcement that is a direct
solicitation for developers.

> What do you mean with ONLY 125 ? Try maintaining 125 packages ;-)

    * 974 entirely free software packages. 125 more than Debian 1.2, and the
      largest Linux distribution available.

> Another point which is IMHO an distinguishing feature about Debian is
> our goal of integration of the whole system. This goal produces such
> terrific packages like our menu system (thanks, Joost) or dwww
> (thanks, Jim and previously Lars). Debian isn't only concerned with
> package management but reaching further ... (ugly marketing english
> ;-)

Text, please?

> This paragraph shouldn't give the impression that I want to neglect
> the dpkg work which is done. In fact my impression is that Klee puts
> a lot of work in dpkg at the moment (thanks).

Yes, but unfortunately it didn't get into the release. It's in unstable.

> probably we should even include Dale's upgrade notes to ease our lives
> on debian-user later ;-)

    To Upgrade From an Older Debian System

    You can upgrade automaticaly via FTP, or from CD or hard disk.
    With this release, it is very important to upgrade our "dpkg" package
    tool first, before you upgrade other packages in an older Debian system.
    To do this, change into the Debian-1.3/binary-i386/base directory on
    your CD or hard disk copy of Debian. As root, run these commands:

	    dpkg -i ldso_*.deb
	    dpkg -i libc5_*.deb
	    dpkg -i dpkg_*.deb dpkg-ftp_*.deb
	    dpkg --purge --force-depends texbin
	    dpkg --clear-available

    Once that has been done, you should be able to upgrade the entire system
    automaticaly using our "dselect" tool.

    In an upgrade from Debian 1.1 to Debian 1.3, on a system where Debian
    1.2 has never been installed, you can expect to run dselect about 4
    times to complete the installation. There will be a number of error
    messages leading to termination of "dselect", but these are an artifact
    of the package order and your skipped upgrade to 1.2, and can be safely
    ignored.


- Bruce

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