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Re: giving money to gnome



Mark W. Eichin wrote:
> 
> I'll note that Bruce did mention earlier that when we suggested we'd
> put the money into a DFSG-free QT replacement, they liked the idea.
> (I liked the idea as well, because there are other QT based programs
> like qweb, which, unlike a "desktop", I'd actually *use*...) 

agreed. We should fight Troll, not KDE.

> Granted,
> funding gnome instead is a different proposal, but I'm not sure it's
> *that* different, if it means improving gtk enough that qt-based
> programs could switch.

Then we should ask gtk people to use the money _also_ to create a QT
replacement based on gtk. This would really make the difference.

> 
> Remember that some amount of the use of QT was clever promotion on
> Troll's part -- by appealing to developers' *greed* :-) [remember,
> Troll ran a contest with thousand-dollar and higher cash prizes?]  So
> I'm not inclined to consider use of QT a totally innocent mistake in
> any case...

In fact, I think that KDE people fell in Troll's trap; now they need our
help, not our grimaces. Those developers were stolen from the free
community, and are now on the border: we should really pull them on our
side, not push them with kicks.

Please, Bruce, launch a project to create a QT replacement, and ask KDE
_and_ GTK people to cooperate. Dividing the free software community into
"parties" is the worse thing that we can do. 
We should close the ranks because the _real_ enemy is getting closer,
and we'll need every single man to defend the house, without opening
breaches in the walls (=relaxing our constraints), but approaching
kindly all friends and inviting them to join us.


Fabrizio, worried about.
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