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Re: giving money to gnome

yOn 19 Nov 1997, Christian Leutloff wrote:

> 
> > AJ> as the gnome project is the direct opponent of kde, this is an
> >                                 ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
> > Uh?? Is that your view or the KDE people's view? Sure this is not the
> > way the GNOME people see KDE.
> 
> Please read the announcement for GNOME. It *is* a new desktop
> environment. And therefor the result will be able to replace KDE ...

> Sure, but we *say* we will use the money we get from one project to
> support a replacement project. That's not nice at all. Instead we
> should say that we'll remove the non-free character from KDE by
> removing the need for Qt. Therefor we should say, that we support the
> development of a free Qt. The focus should be on the lib and not on
> the desctop environment.

Now it's your turn to read the gnome page for the reasons why this is not
very feasible.  Or look at lesstif as an example.  Unless a concerted
effort is made by KDE to move to a different library taht is free, Qt can
make it so the fre library is always one step behind.

Throwing out a random suggestion:  what if we gave the money to KDE to
help them transfer from Qt to the GTK?  

I think that the 'opponents' bit is a bit overblown in any case...  I
don't think that's a very productive view to take of software development,
and one that will probably not be very satisfying in the long run.  I
think the Gnome people's ideas are pretty good with regards to this:  they
state that teh KDE people are competent, and have written good code, but
that they would like to have something *free*.

David Welton   
davidw@efn.org  davidw@freenet.hut.fi  http://www.efn.org/~davidw
Se quest'email e` in Italiano, mi dispiace per gli errori:-) FORZA PANTANI!
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