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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

> The logo chosen emphasizes the Linux connection (it has a penguin), but
> it is different enough from "Tux" that we can trademark it, and it has
> artistic merit.

I can't see a penguin on that logo. You sure it's not a sparrow or
something?

You sure, that someone who heard of Linux will ever find this CD to be
related with Debian if he saw the logo? I don't think so.


> We had a contest with votes. The contest went on for an awful long time,
> (someone said two years???). The most popular logo in the contest was not
> one that we could trademark, and it was very similar to logos used by
> similar products. We could not have used it for that reason.

Nice thing you state that now - after choosing a logo. Oh - sorry, I
forgot - if you would have stated before, that the most-wanted logo is
unacceptable for copyright reasons (btw. WHY?), then you couldn't have
chosen whatever you liked.

Besides, don't you think it's rather strange, that if the first one is
unacceptable, to take the 25th(!!!) by popularity (according to:
http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/overview.html) 
instead?

Democratic procedures usually include taking the top two and getting
people to vote between them, if neither of the two can make a clear
winner.

Besides - for taking the 25th one - what *EXACTLY* is wrong with each of
the pictures 1-24 (reasons to be stated for EACH individual logo).



> The person who was running the contest and I discussed hiring a commercial
> artist for the Debian logo as well. Some time went by and a lot of people
> got after me to get the logo done. I was about to hire the aritst (for $$$)

Oh - let me guess, you would've spent money on that artist without
discussing that publicly?



> and I took another look at the logo submissions to see if one could be used.
> That one could.

How about stating acceptable logos, and let all developers decide.
Or - name the acceptable logos (note: PLURAL), and talk to Christian
Schwarz to only list those logos and set their counters to 0. Then
send an official announcement for the vote on the Debian logo in
comp.os.linux.announce - to let the public decide.



  Benedikt


Windows 95: n.
    32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
    operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor,  written
         by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.


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