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Re: "purity" package

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@datasync.com> wrote:
>
> 	Will this debate never die? 

aparently not.

> 	OK, so there is no *legal* freedom of speech issue.

right.

>  But when
>  we start selecting on content, when we say that packages have to meet
>  criteria other than the DFSG, that they have to meet approval, it
>  *is* a freedom of speech issue (though not legally). 

it's a selection issue. please note that we already do select
much further then the dfsg. eg security and quality issues are
not mentioned in the dfsg.

call it a common sense selection.

> 	What legal problems? Which country? Even with notices slapped
>  on and confiration required during installation? 

of course, even in the us, though most other countries 
in the world are even more restrictive.

distributors of cdroms with sexually explicit material
have to take care that minors do not have the possibility
to get it.

i doubt any of our distributors do that even in a minimal form.

> 	Well, in any case I contend that Debian should not be
>  exercising editorial control like this. 

this is the main point, and i don't think that we will
ever get a consensus on that. this is a simple project
leader question. the leader has to decide, and the decission
should be respected.

you see i'm still shocked by the constant bruce-bashing
some of us did all the time.

the other possibility is a vote. but i strongly object
to vote on every silly small issue like that. let Ian decide,
and respect it (or vote against him). 

(let me try a forecast: 80% remove purity, 30% remove bible)


> John> The Bible is not offensive.

of course the bible is offensive. telling us to love our
enemies _is_ offensive. nobody here even tries.

jjm

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