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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Raila's family was involved in maize scandal, claim US cables http://is.gd/A7HzRM !wlMar 01 00:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Standard | Online Edition :: Raila's family was involved in maize scandal, claim US cables .::. Size~: 36.96 KBMar 01 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Nouveau Driver Is Moving Along Slowly But Surely: The Nouveau Companion, the newsletter by the Nouveau drive... http://bit.ly/e22bK5Mar 01 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Who Did The Most For X.Org Server 1.10? Oracle?: Tiago Vignatti has put out some statistics on the contributions... http://bit.ly/eRNLxzMar 01 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Nouveau Driver Is Moving Along Slowly But Surely .::. Size~: 17.43 KBMar 01 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Who Did The Most For X.Org Server 1.10? Oracle? .::. Size~: 17.44 KBMar 01 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://alturl.com/th6h4 !wlMar 01 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @CharlieAngusMP: Crtc is at heritage committee talking transition to digital tv.Mar 01 00:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] The February issue of the Free Software Supporter is out, and should be landing in your mailbox shortly. !fsf !lp !gnuMar 01 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @brettcsmith Posted some reactions to Microsoft banning GPLed code from its app store: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/windows-pho ...Mar 01 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @CharlieAngusMP: Crtc confirm at heritage they will drop changes on false news reporting.Mar 01 00:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @oliviachow: My questions in Parl re Inquiry on #G20 and gov's response: http://bit.ly/g6O5RU #hw #fbMar 01 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rmcla_ca: VIDEO: "Protests and Civil Liberties" re: #G8 #G20 and Vancouver #Olympics w/ @rmcla_ca @bccla @cancivlib http://bit.ly/fJ0qnEMar 01 00:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Olivia Chow, MP – Olivia Chow in Question Period: Call a public inquiry now .::. Size~: 18.78 KBMar 01 00:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sheldon Chumir Foundation :: Protests and Civil Liberties: Experiences in Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver .::. Size~: 18.79 KBMar 01 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @cancivlib: Website down due to overwhelming demand,but you can still download the Breach of the Peace #G20 report here http://ccla.orgMar 01 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Demand a Public Inquiry Now! .::. Size~: 11.47 KBMar 01 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @PreemptDissent: RT @greg_elmer Don't forget Bifo talk at Ryerson, March 1, 1pm RCC 202. www.infoscapelab.ca #infoscapeMar 01 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @scraggleDOG: Libyans will retaliate by sending a squadron of Ukrainian femme-bots with machine gun titties ...Mar 01 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Republicans recycle an old idea: the foam plastic coffee cup - http://bit.ly/eGwhue sheer spitefulness - how matureMar 01 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Republicans recycle an old idea: the foam plastic coffee cup | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 233.99 KBMar 01 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @atopiary: Aaron Barr has quit! Join our party on IRC: http://irc.lc/Anonops/AnonLeaks | Party music: http://bit.ly/gSTPN7 #HBGaryMar 01 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Natural Resources Min. Christian Paradis was lobbied by Canadian Bioenergy Corporation on Sep. 14 http://bit.ly/h1y53eMar 01 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #AnonLeaks : Chat on AnonLeaks IRC channel - AnonOps WebChat .::. Size~: 1.96 KBMar 01 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EndlessVideo - Original Party Hard music .::. Size~: 87.56 KBMar 01 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle:        Office of the Commissioner of Lobbying of Canada             .::. Size~: 15.51 KBMar 01 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I think !Choqok is great, because it can show 100 dents in a time line! :)Mar 01 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Torontonamo: #G20 YouTube - (FULL MOVIE) G20 -CBC The Fifth Estate 'You Should've Stayed at Home' http://bit.ly/efO3leMar 01 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - (FULL MOVIE) G20 -CBC The Fifth Estate 'You Should've Stayed at Home'    .::. Size~: 119.17 KBMar 01 00:32
bruce89it's like a morgue in hereMar 01 00:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Security researcher @danwallach's notes from eavesdropping on his Android phone's Wi-Fi: https://eff.org/r.4zfMar 01 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I think !Choqok is great, because it can show 100 dents in a timeline! :)Mar 01 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Things overheard on the WiFi from my Android smartphone | Freedom to Tinker .::. Size~: 69.67 KBMar 01 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !identiverse and well for some of us it's already March, including myself.Mar 01 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !Identiverse and well for some of us it's already March, including myself.Mar 01 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2011-Mar-01: Felix Sasaki, W3C Germany and Austria Office, gives a talk entitled: "Internationalization with XML" http://ow.ly/1byeHNMar 01 00:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Talks by W3C Speakers   .::. Size~: 64.78 KBMar 01 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] In fact it's already March for most of the people that are currently subscribed to the !Identiverse group.Mar 01 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the dangers of the #cloud? you are not really in control... trust is hard to get on the Internet: http://ur1.ca/3d1h6Mar 01 01:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google accidentally wipes out thousands of Gmail accounts  - Feb. 28, 2011 .::. Size~: 74.53 KBMar 01 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Glide State Tracker For Gallium3D Is Talked About: A student developer has written to the Mesa3D development m... http://bit.ly/dRkP9lMar 01 01:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A Glide State Tracker For Gallium3D Is Talked About .::. Size~: 17.39 KBMar 01 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Desktop Summit CFP announced and Registration open http://lwn.net/Articles/430204/rssMar 01 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: RT @ForbesTech: HBGary Federal’s Aaron Barr Resigns After Anonymous Hack Scandal http://bit.ly/edirbd [by @a_greenberg]Mar 01 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Desktop Summit CFP announced and Registration open  [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.42 KBMar 01 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   HBGary Federal’s Aaron Barr Resigns After Anonymous Hack Scandal - Andy Greenberg - The Firewall - Forbes .::. Size~: 116.33 KBMar 01 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: #HBGary Federal’s Aaron Barr Resigns After #Anonymous Hack Scandal - http://t.co/614ThQg v @IdeasCannotDie @ForbesMar 01 01:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   HBGary Federal’s Aaron Barr Resigns After Anonymous Hack Scandal - Andy Greenberg - The Firewall - Forbes .::. Size~: 116.4 KBMar 01 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Tell #Sony stop harassing http://www.defectivebydesign.org/stopsony Email howard.stringer@jp.sony.com and tell him to stop this assault !PS3Mar 01 01:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Sony to stop harassing hackers | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 16.31 KBMar 01 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Awaiting your reply to the Wiki Page.Mar 01 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @digimer: Sent copy of today's CCLA report to #FreeByron at the Milton Hilton. Let's see if they will deliver it or send it back...Mar 01 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: @Emma_A Closing 800 followers. Congratulations. Will crack 1000 this week \o/ #OpEmmaa #Anonymiss #AnonymousMar 01 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So how long will the Nokia board give Elop to try and make a go of WP7 before they sack him and go with Meego or !android? #ElopocalypseMar 01 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @safeworld4women: Only two member states, Somalia & the USA, have NOT ratified the Rights of the Child http://ow.ly/45cZEMar 01 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "No hacker activities, please. Pinging does more harm than needed!"Mar 01 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] Just finished subtitling an extraordinary interview about #Assange, in English. Help me translate it? http://j.mp/egnaw0 /cc @aracnus :) !wlMar 01 01:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                                 "If law fails, CIA will assassinate Assange" with subtitles | Universal Subtitles                .::. Size~: 78.04 KBMar 01 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I tag some of my dents as #2011,but didn't do so for the two I sent recently to !Identiverse oh well http://ur1.ca/3d1ls http://ur1.ca/3d1miMar 01 01:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 00:41:16 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.16 KBMar 01 01:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] WikiLeaks Shop United Kingdom - http://officialwikileaksuk.spreadshirt.co.uk/Mar 01 01:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks Shop United Kingdom .::. Size~: 198.35 KBMar 01 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] It will soon be March #2011 for you and the other current !Identiverse group subscribers who are still in February.Mar 01 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @sebsebseb @psquid #Choqok can show 200 at least, if you configure it like that. I haven't tried with more, but the value 1000 is accepted.Mar 01 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Democrats call for an investigation of Hunton & Williams | WaPo http://is.gd/rIgmIF !wlMar 01 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] m69Mar 01 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Raila's family was involved in maize scandal, claim US cables http://is.gd/A7HzRM http://bit.ly/gKbVBzMar 01 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks news update http://wlcentral.org.nyud.net/ http://bit.ly/fN9EFEMar 01 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RO: 'Romanian government not against, nor in favour of open source' http://is.gd/D7t4N0 #romania #software #gnu #linux #microsoft #windowsMar 01 02:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Standard | Online Edition :: Raila's family was involved in maize scandal, claim US cables .::. Size~: 37.02 KBMar 01 02:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Anyone going? http://ruby.onales.com/ #fbMar 01 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ♻ @eff Security researcher @danwallach's notes from eavesdropping on his Android phone's Wi-Fi: https://eff.org/r.4zfMar 01 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @regsecurity: Morgan Stanley hit by same attackers that breached Google http://bit.ly/fw61FB #securityMar 01 02:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ruby on Ales - 2011 .::. Size~: 5.48 KBMar 01 02:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Things overheard on the WiFi from my Android smartphone | Freedom to Tinker .::. Size~: 69.67 KBMar 01 02:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Morgan Stanley hit by same attackers that breached Google • The Register .::. Size~: 22.11 KBMar 01 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] An Appeal to AICTE for asking MoU between Microsoft and AICTE. http://tinyurl.com/4ky7uou #blogMar 01 02:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Narendra Sisodiya: An Appeal to AICTE for asking MoU between Microsoft and AICTE. .::. Size~: 129.92 KBMar 01 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Tell Sony to stop harrassing hackers! http://is.gd/8IgWzj #sony #drm #playogg #gnu #linux #softwareMar 01 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Sony to stop harassing hackers | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 16.31 KBMar 01 02:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @jankusanagi @psquid Ok thanks I forgot I set 100 myself, and 1000 seems to be the max amount of dents !Choqok can show. 8000 would be nice!Mar 01 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gandroids: Breaking News : Motorola Working on 7-inch Tablet to Compliment XOOM http://tiny.ly/ywLEMar 01 02:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola Working on 7-inch Tablet to Compliment XOOM | Android News .::. Size~: 29.52 KBMar 01 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @StefaMedia: Double Commander, gestionar de fişiere http://bit.ly/hSO54l #stefamedia Nu m-ar deranja un RT :)))Mar 01 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @cagedether: RStudio,a new IDE for #R (great for #analytics type stuff) http://bit.ly/h0ex5v #gnu #linuxMar 01 02:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Double Commander, gestionar de fişiere .::. Size~: 75.21 KBMar 01 02:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Venkatesh Hariharan is now Head of Public Policy and Government Affairs at Google IndiaMar 01 02:40
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GoForbes28secure freenode works likes a charmMar 01 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @stav: Proposed patent reform legislation in US Senate will disadvantage small and startup companies. http://ur1.ca/3d1uuMar 01 02:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle:        IEEE-USA, others challenge patent reform      .::. Size~: 84.83 KBMar 01 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Well !Identiverse it's time for me to go to bed not yet, but soonish.Mar 01 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Do free market capitalists honestly think that they are the answer to climate change and not the problem? !anti-capitalismMar 01 03:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Remind me not to watch such serious nightmare material right before bed... (google video) http://ur1.ca/3d21bMar 01 03:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTE1MgMar 01 03:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A Glide State Tracker For Gallium3D Is Talked About .::. Size~: 17.43 KBMar 01 03:09
DaemonFCThe free software stack can barely do OpenGL 2.1, but someone wants to write a Glide API for it?Mar 01 03:09
DaemonFCwtf? :)Mar 01 03:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Democrats call for an investigation of Hunton & Williams | WaPo http://is.gd/rIgmIF http://bit.ly/hG7A7dMar 01 03:10
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DaemonFCsince when has anything on Linux used Glide?Mar 01 03:10
DaemonFCthe only things I can think of that used Glide are old Windows games meant for 3dfx cardsMar 01 03:10
DaemonFCcirca 1997-2000Mar 01 03:10
Ender2070perhaps someones hacking out his voodoo 5Mar 01 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE #Libya. The west has cosied up to Gaddafi and dropped him like a hot brick the second they saw an advantage. Not because of principle.Mar 01 03:12
DaemonFCsince Glide is a subset of OpenGL 1.1(?) mostly, couldn't modern hardware tap into it with a little help?Mar 01 03:12
DaemonFCI think the entire point of Glide was that OpenGL is big, fat, and huge, and not all of it really is all that useful for video gamesMar 01 03:12
DaemonFCand it made a huge difference in how well a card performed back then with such limited resourcesMar 01 03:13
GoForbes28And while were at it, let's add support for WinGMar 01 03:14
DaemonFCas the competitions hardware got faster and was able to implement OpenGL/DirectX fully without it making much of a difference on speed, 3dfx lost their only advantage and went bankruptMar 01 03:14
GoForbes28http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinGMar 01 03:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WinG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 30.52 KBMar 01 03:14
DaemonFCWinG was rather lulzyMar 01 03:15
DaemonFCthere was a buggy version of it floating around with some shareware back then which could brick your copy of Windows 3.1x in certain situationsMar 01 03:15
GoForbes28"Quick!  Program some DLLs so we can sell Windows as a gaming platform!"Mar 01 03:16
DaemonFCand the installer never said what version it was, so there was no way to tell until it was too lateMar 01 03:16
GoForbes28In other words, a tradition that continues to this dayMar 01 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE #Libya can anyone in the !Identiverse recall in all the news coverage of Libya anything at all about how the political structure works?Mar 01 03:17
GoForbes28.NET and DirectX are clearly inspired by the pioneering breakthrough that was WinGMar 01 03:17
DaemonFCyeah, the web browser is part of the OS, aside from the obvious security problems, that means that doing something as mundane as upgrading to a new version of IE can brick WindowsMar 01 03:17
DaemonFCand leave you with no way to fix the damageMar 01 03:17
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 03:17
DaemonFCGoForbes28, If you want to gag, go read the post where the guy submitted the DirectX state tracker to Gallium3dMar 01 03:18
DaemonFChe was praising Microsoft's clean designMar 01 03:18
GoForbes28hahaMar 01 03:18
DaemonFCand saying how horrid OpenGL isMar 01 03:18
GoForbes28the design ripped of OpenGL?Mar 01 03:18
GoForbes28I'm pretty sure Direct3D = OpenGL, am I correct?Mar 01 03:18
DaemonFCthey're so much alike that you can implement both in hardware without much overlapMar 01 03:19
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 03:19
GoForbes28Wasn't there a big discussion abbout that?Mar 01 03:19
GoForbes28Well, that makes senseMar 01 03:19
GoForbes28Wine takes DirectX and turns it into OpenGL quite easilyMar 01 03:19
DaemonFCwhat appears in one soon appears in the otherMar 01 03:19
GoForbes28niceMar 01 03:19
DaemonFCthey basically leapfrog each other in implementing featuresMar 01 03:19
GoForbes28If there are so much the same, than that would make the "Direct32" support added by VMware to Mesa uselessMar 01 03:20
GoForbes28why not just make a passthrough to opengl?Mar 01 03:21
DaemonFCyeah, the idea for the DirectX state tracker is that they can base their DirectX implementation off of Wine's code and make it available directly to any application that requests itMar 01 03:21
GoForbes28Oh right, cause that would kill the illusionMar 01 03:21
DaemonFCso eventually you will see Mono apps that call to DirectXMar 01 03:21
DaemonFCon LinuxMar 01 03:21
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 03:21
DaemonFCof course it means that code doesn't have to be part of Wine anymoreMar 01 03:21
DaemonFCbut it really won't speed up games you're running in Wine a whole lotMar 01 03:22
GoForbes28I love how programs in .net are treated like royaltyMar 01 03:22
DaemonFCa .NET app running on Windows doesn't behave identically between x86 32-bit and x86 64-bitMar 01 03:22
DaemonFCso lets port it to LinuxMar 01 03:23
GoForbes28I've used a few, one with a slow, web-wannabe interface, and others that were just slow, and completely indifferent to equivalents in other langurageMar 01 03:23
DaemonFCthis should only take months of major rewritesMar 01 03:23
DaemonFC:DMar 01 03:23
DaemonFCyou notice how Paint .Net didn't exactly port right overMar 01 03:24
GoForbes28Apparently, .NET to Java isn't that hard, like DirectX to OpenGLMar 01 03:24
DaemonFCIcaza started porting it in 2006, and gave up on itMar 01 03:24
DaemonFCthis Pinta thing only reuses bits and pieces of Paint .Net codeMar 01 03:24
GoForbes28My friend in game programming said that the languages are very similarMar 01 03:24
DaemonFCit's not the same programMar 01 03:24
GoForbes28yes, the code that is now locked in a proprietary crapworldMar 01 03:25
DaemonFCyeah, the Paint .Net license changed from MIT to proprietary freewareMar 01 03:25
DaemonFCas of version 4 I think it wasMar 01 03:25
GoForbes28Did the developer ever give a reason?Mar 01 03:25
DaemonFChe didn't want anyone else using his codeMar 01 03:25
DaemonFChe had a blog post about itMar 01 03:26
DaemonFChe said they were really the only ones working on it anywayMar 01 03:26
GoForbes28Which is precisely why he released it under MIT in the first placeMar 01 03:26
DaemonFChttp://blog.getpaint.net/2009/11/06/a-new-license-for-paintnet-v35/Mar 01 03:26
GoForbes28I guess he was hoping others would just dump their contributions on him, without anything in returnMar 01 03:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A new license for Paint.NET v3.5 « Paint.NET Blog .::. Size~: 104.72 KBMar 01 03:26
DaemonFC" I liked releasing the source code this because I felt there was value in allowing others to study it. About a year ago I decided I was tired of seeing plagiarized versions of Paint.NET and I yanked the source code from the website."Mar 01 03:27
GoForbes28Uh huhMar 01 03:27
DaemonFCYou can look, but don't fork. That's why I used the MIT license. Derr hurrr!Mar 01 03:27
DaemonFClolMar 01 03:27
GoForbes28Did he even read the liscense?Mar 01 03:28
GoForbes28Why not use the GPL then?Mar 01 03:28
DaemonFCapparently he didn't have time for the entire paragraphMar 01 03:28
DaemonFC:DMar 01 03:28
GoForbes28oh, because the GPL is evil and bad and evilMar 01 03:28
DaemonFCwell, he goes on to admit that you can decompile it anyway using a .Net disassemblerMar 01 03:29
DaemonFCthat gives you human readable code sans commentingMar 01 03:29
DaemonFCit would be hard for him to prove anyone plagiarized that because the code wouldn't be exactly what he wrote and you couldn't accidentally copypaste his commentsMar 01 03:30
GoForbes28Haha, for Free software, that may be a good featureMar 01 03:30
DaemonFCso in fact he's made it much easier to "steal"Mar 01 03:30
GoForbes28and drawn atttentioin to it to bootMar 01 03:31
*enthymeme hugs the Law of Unintended ConsequencesMar 01 03:31
enthymemeBy Sagan, I love me some irony :3Mar 01 03:31
DaemonFCyou're a lot closer to exposing your code when you use any .Net language than you are distributing compiled binaries from something like CMar 01 03:32
GoForbes28And MS wanted Windows to transition to .net?Mar 01 03:32
DaemonFCnoMar 01 03:32
DaemonFCthey are only using it in certain casesMar 01 03:32
GoForbes28imagine that thoughMar 01 03:32
DaemonFCand the DRM pieces that things like Silverbloat call out to are not written in .NetMar 01 03:33
GoForbes28They would sabotage their own DRMMar 01 03:33
DaemonFC.Net disassemblers have had a huge chilling effect on companies that might have used it otherwiseMar 01 03:33
DaemonFCthat's why you only see it being used here and thereMar 01 03:34
GoForbes28Thank goodnessMar 01 03:34
DaemonFCMicrosoft has this fetish with turning everything into a scripting engineMar 01 03:36
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 03:36
DaemonFCthere's like a bazillion Windows-only scripting languages you can learnMar 01 03:37
DaemonFCand most of them have a .Net counterpartMar 01 03:37
DaemonFCthey've even stolen things like Python and made them into .Net languagesMar 01 03:37
DaemonFCIronPython, IronRuby, etc.Mar 01 03:37
DaemonFCJscript.NetMar 01 03:37
DaemonFCthen of course there's Boo and VB.NetMar 01 03:38
DaemonFCand you can use C# as a scripting languageMar 01 03:38
DaemonFCGoForbes28, I suspect you could probably use A# as a scripting language tooMar 01 03:39
DaemonFCAda for .Net :PMar 01 03:39
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DaemonFCone of the design goals for Ada was security, oddly enoughMar 01 03:39
DaemonFCthink it's fair to say that A# throws that out the window :)Mar 01 03:40
enthymemeso what's the solution to that?Mar 01 03:40
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DaemonFCdon't use itMar 01 03:42
DaemonFCgcc still has an ada compilerMar 01 03:42
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 03:42
GoForbes28Iand let's not forget J++Mar 01 03:42
enthymemeDaemonFC: that's an unsatisfying answer for those who have already written applications in languages that MS will eventually appropriateMar 01 03:43
DaemonFCwhich turned into J#Mar 01 03:43
DaemonFCJ# has been declared deprecatedMar 01 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British Prison staff are represented by POA Prison Officers Association. The prisoners lobby group is AOP Association Of Prisoners :-) v/BenMar 01 03:43
GoForbes28yep, it's codename was "stopgap"Mar 01 03:43
DaemonFCyou can still use it, but it's not supported in Visual Studio 2010Mar 01 03:43
DaemonFCyou have to keep Visual Studio 2008 around to have J# IDE supportMar 01 03:44
GoForbes28or "lets-lock-in-more-programmers"Mar 01 03:44
enthymemeI mean MS can retroactively compromise an open source program by copying the language in which it was written to the .NET framework.Mar 01 03:44
DaemonFCand then extend itMar 01 03:44
DaemonFCso that it's no longer really Ruby or PythonMar 01 03:44
DaemonFClike they haveMar 01 03:44
DaemonFCProject Roach MotelMar 01 03:45
DaemonFCprograms check in, they don't check out :DMar 01 03:45
GoForbes28Thanks Agent J :)Mar 01 03:46
DaemonFCyeah, Microsoft has been trying to get prominent open source programs to only work on Windows or to work better on Windows than any other platformMar 01 03:46
DaemonFCto some extent, you can see that with FirefoxMar 01 03:47
DaemonFCthey tried to commandeer Blender in a similar way, but they didn't go for itMar 01 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Writing my first #Drupal 7 code. Woo-hoo!Mar 01 03:50
GoForbes28Netscape is perhaps the best attempted exampleMar 01 03:50
GoForbes28well, gtgMar 01 03:52
GoForbes28bye for nowMar 01 03:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Linus goes to Oscar party http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2011/02/pearls-before-swine.htmlMar 01 03:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Happy 11th birthday Amrish! #fbMar 01 04:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British prisoners union: Association of British Prisoners http://is.gd/lDre3p #prisonreformMar 01 04:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linus recounts his night at the Oscars.... http://bit.ly/hoiXWJMar 01 04:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] latest #bash upgrade from [testing] (4.2.x) on !archlinux broke my system's boot process, be careful. Downgrading to bash 4.1 from [core]=OKMar 01 04:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @digimer: RT @G20inquiry http://fb.me/Sk5ITNwI <- G20 RE-EXPOSED: Toronto Inquiry Now (Documentary) #G20 #G20report #FreeByronMar 01 04:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : Kaninjer is reinstated despite my objections. http://bit.ly/fGeZTM #Chevenga #weblit #reading #scifiMar 01 04:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @mamadelbosque: @_the_mad_hatter @Emma_A @safeworld4women isn't that freaking awful? Just the US & freaking Somalia.Mar 01 04:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Could not find context but if you are surprised at some of the minority company USA keeps then that surprises me.Mar 01 04:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] funny, but also lame to try to beat someone at his own game. I do think he should have called it #OMGLinux instead... (ref to #omgsuse)Mar 01 04:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The difference between how China and USA spent/spend their wealth is interesting. One spent it it on wars the other on infrastructure.Mar 01 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] saw something that #omgubuntu wanted to have a #debian column? time for a name change...Mar 01 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Aaron Barr Falls On His Sword - Anything To Protect The Company! http://bit.ly/e59Evo #HBGary #Anonymous #DarwinMar 01 04:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I thought it would be something like that. It does not surprise me in the least.Mar 01 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haraldthered RT @throckmortonqdirktwister RT @maturano !q | The worst thing about #censorship is ███████████Mar 01 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @unclekish "It takes much more strength to control yourself than to control someone else." David Andrews. !qMar 01 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Great article. Actually quite funny but for the incredible evil evidenced by HBGary and/or Aaron Barr #CooksSource II ?Mar 01 05:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE #Libya Gaddafi challenges west to find money in his name anywhere outside Libya. He says if they can find any they can have halfMar 01 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera RE #Libya Gaddafi challenges west to find money in his name anywhere outside Libya. He says if they can find any they can h ...Mar 01 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter Aaron Barr Falls On His Sword - Anything To Protect The Company! http://bit.ly/e59Evo #HBGary #Anonymous #DarwinMar 01 05:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter "Aaron’s ...marketable. Hire him, and plant him as a spy for one of your competitors… http://bit.ly/e59Evo #HBGary !WikiLeaksMar 01 05:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The Death Of Hudson? Oracle Shows It's True Colors - http://bit.ly/gpBoKI #FOSS #Hudson #Jenkins #MoneyMar 01 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] adding some indexes to tables in a multiple join query has made a dramatic increase in my sanityMar 01 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USA now estimates that China owns 1/3 more of USA debt holdings than it previously realised.Mar 01 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Trying to apply the Zen layout trick to #Drupal node content. Just don't get it.Mar 01 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @jezra I dont get the context link at the bottom :( Not sure which dent you are replying to ? (the Jesus Christ one ? )Mar 01 05:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @gotunandan the one about MS being nice and getting brownie pointsMar 01 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @jezra yea of course !Mar 01 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Being an absolute arse does not stop the #BBC from continually asking them back for their views #widespread #easyMar 01 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Ah, just got it. Guaranteed not to remember it next time I need it.Mar 01 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #RE Libya US spokesperson chastises Gaddafi for slaughtering civilians, but fails to mention her own countries far worse record. #violenceMar 01 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Sending me the section of the Constitution isn't an answer as to why the constitution is right.Mar 01 06:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65679204Mar 01 06:21
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Monday, 28-Feb-11 23:21:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I like FluxBox. It gets out of your way, so you can do your work.Mar 01 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harvalah see my reply in the wiki, you ought to also publish the video in the blogMar 01 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If a dictator has 30+bn$ he has stolen at least 29.99bn$. "Thief" isn't quite enough. "Murderer" sounds better. #justsayingMar 01 06:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft broke MSN chat for all other clients so I just left my Google Talk as my status message Mar 01 06:28
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Coal Is Cheap - Because We Pay $345 Billion Of Their Annual Costs http://ur1.ca/3d30z v @qu1j0t3 #energyMar 01 06:30
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MinceR:)Mar 01 06:30
MinceRi prefer other jabber serversMar 01 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jdub: Charlie Brooker: "But I never feel like I own [Apple products]. More like I'm renting them from Skynet." http://goo.gl/6dKFeMar 01 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: Coal Is Cheap - Because We Pay $345 Billion Of Their Annual Costs http://ur1.ca/3d30z - don't tell Ender2070Mar 01 06:32
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I got back to using IMMar 01 06:35
schestowitzAfter more than 7 years since I used it brieflyMar 01 06:36
schestowitzBut about 12 years since I used it regularlyMar 01 06:36
schestowitzI use pidgin as you probably know cause I asked you about itMar 01 06:36
schestowitzI hear Trillian is better..?Mar 01 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Gack - just noticed the time. No wonder I'm having problems staying awake. Night all. @Hedgemage be back at you tomorrow.Mar 01 06:37
MinceRirssi+bitlbee ftwMar 01 06:38
MinceRafaict trillian doesn't support gnu/linux except via a webappMar 01 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What ever political party we have in Britain I am ashamed to be British, permanent USA useful idiots. Wish I was born French.Mar 01 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Time to hit the pavement.Mar 01 06:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+ http://tinyurl.com/4eva58c #blogMar 01 06:53
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DaemonFCTrillian works in Wine if that helpsMar 01 06:54
DaemonFCbut none of the voice and video will obviouslyMar 01 06:54
DaemonFCand it needs to pull in Quicktime for that on Windows anyway, yuckMar 01 06:55
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_AP3SGMxxMMar 01 07:02
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schestowitzWine?Mar 01 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Do #Microsoft Employees Serve Microsoft Even After Leaving? It’s Part of the Contract. http://ur1.ca/3d396 #nokia #amazoff #MiszewskiMar 01 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Why Do Microsoft Employees Serve Microsoft Even After Leaving? It’s Part of the Contract. http://ur1.ca/3d396 #entryism #monoMar 01 07:15
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gnufreexNot good http://lwn.net/Articles/430192/ Mar 01 07:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Just droped the kid off for his first day in daycare...Mar 01 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Anti-competitive #Apple Removes #Java http://ur1.ca/3d3bc #choice #control #drmMar 01 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anti-competitive Apple Removes !Java http://ur1.ca/3d3bc #choice #control !drmMar 01 07:28
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MinceRindeedMar 01 07:35
DaemonFChttp://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8015/snapshot1.pngMar 01 07:37
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeMar 01 07:37
DaemonFCHe's dead, MinceR Mar 01 07:37
DaemonFCYou get his tricorder and I'll grab his walletMar 01 07:38
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 07:38
MinceR:>Mar 01 07:38
gnufreexIt seems that only way to get sources on per-patch basis it if some paid RH subscriber sends it to WikiLeaks.Mar 01 07:38
MinceRyour kernel's dead, Jim!Mar 01 07:38
MinceRnext time use a browser that doesn't sucks so muchMar 01 07:38
MinceRs/ks/k/Mar 01 07:38
gnufreexIf some RH custmer mirors RH git tree, he will get his support subscription canceled... it seems. Acording to Subscription agreement.Mar 01 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverseMar 01 07:40
gnufreexSo wikileaks is only answerMar 01 07:40
MinceRbetter use a community-maintained distro, thenMar 01 07:40
gnufreexNo seriously, I am going to post sources to WikiLeaks if RH doesn't change this. But my internet concection sucks. Mar 01 07:42
gnufreexOopsMar 01 07:42
gnufreexI shouldn't say thatMar 01 07:42
gnufreexMy plan is bustedMar 01 07:42
MinceRlolMar 01 07:42
MinceRdo you even have a support contract? :>Mar 01 07:43
gnufreexMy company hasMar 01 07:43
MinceRicMar 01 07:43
MinceRi wonder if they watermark their kernel sources :>Mar 01 07:43
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gnufreexBut I think it wouldn't help anyways, since we use RHEL 5 stillMar 01 07:45
DaemonFCso how do Oracle, CentOS, Scientific Linux, etc. clone RHEL?Mar 01 07:45
gnufreexAnd RHEL6 has new policyMar 01 07:45
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DaemonFCwith a 24 hour patch turnaroundMar 01 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just had a sysv-rc-config cleaning session. System going like lightening!Mar 01 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: "Making Music with MeeGo" with @JustinLassen #GDC. Wed-11AM (Intel booth 1702),Thu-12PM,3PM (http://bit.ly/cImFI6), Fr...Mar 01 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp #GDC developers, be the next Rovio Angry Birds upstart! Attend our free training sessions on Thurs... http://bit.ly/cImFI6Mar 01 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: ClocksN900: a python version of the timeless classic Rubiks Clock http://goo.gl/Vcvay #N900 #MaemoMar 01 07:45
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gnufreexDaemonFC: This is not about cloning, that works fineMar 01 07:45
gnufreexThey distribute full sourcesMar 01 07:45
gnufreexBut they don't split patchesMar 01 07:45
DaemonFCyeah, as source RPMsMar 01 07:45
DaemonFCright, they're in compliance with the GPL but not making it easy for other people to see where they applied patchesMar 01 07:46
gnufreexSpliting patches makes maintanance easier, and RH wants to make Oracle's life harder.Mar 01 07:46
DaemonFCnot atypical of a Linux companyMar 01 07:46
gnufreexOracle just takes CentOS and adds some crapMar 01 07:46
DaemonFCmost companies who use GPL'd source code do something like thatMar 01 07:46
gnufreexThey don't have in house expertiseMar 01 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Hear developers talk about our MeeGo AppUp Application Lab series at http://intel.ly/hhm9Z6; two... http://bit.ly/cImFI6Mar 01 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Check out developer first impressions of MeeGo, the Intel AppUp center, and our Intel AppUp... http://fb.me/W46ARlyAMar 01 07:47
gnufreexFree ridersMar 01 07:47
gnufreexThat is OracleMar 01 07:47
DaemonFCusually it's jsut one massive tarball with no changelog Mar 01 07:47
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gnufreexThey deserved thisMar 01 07:47
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MinceRwhich means that only ignorant people will sign up for support contracts at Obstacle anywayMar 01 07:47
gnufreexBut rest of community don't deserve thisMar 01 07:47
gnufreexDebian suffersMar 01 07:47
MinceRwhat's paid support worth if your supporter doesn't know what they're doing?Mar 01 07:47
DaemonFCit's why KDE has only been able to merge a small fraction of Webkit back in to KHTMLMar 01 07:47
DaemonFCApple waited a year and then said "here you go"Mar 01 07:47
DaemonFCone massive blob with no changelogMar 01 07:47
gnufreexDebian dev is who fist saw this and reported to LWNMar 01 07:48
DaemonFCMinceR, As far as I can tell, Oracle Linux 6 is RHEL with the option of using a kernel configured by Oracle to run their workloads a little betterMar 01 07:49
DaemonFCbecause that it was just RHELMar 01 07:49
gnufreexRH customers get changelog and entire Git tree.Mar 01 07:50
MinceRif that's so important, someone can pull a CentOS on ObstacleMar 01 07:50
gnufreexThat is why I say WikiLeaksMar 01 07:50
MinceRbut i doubt that anyone caresMar 01 07:50
MinceRgnufreex: yes, it sounds like a good idea to meMar 01 07:50
DaemonFCthat's why Oracle gives it away for freeMar 01 07:50
DaemonFCthey know what they're worthMar 01 07:50
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 07:50
MinceR:>Mar 01 07:50
gnufreexLolMar 01 07:51
DaemonFCanyone who is going to pay will be using Red Hat, and anyone who isn't going to pay will be using Scientific or CentOSMar 01 07:51
DaemonFCthat doesn't leave a lot of room for OracleMar 01 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Blog-Post from Linus: "Pearls before swine.." (he went to the "Night Before Oscar party") http://bit.ly/g9RLwA#giggleMar 01 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Still Uses the Word “Choice” to Lie to the Public http://ur1.ca/3d3g4 #spin #odf #opendocument #apple #pcMar 01 07:53
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MinceRthe unfortunate folks who (for some unknowable reason) use the obstacle rdbms might want to use obstacle's distro as wellMar 01 07:55
Chips_B_MalroyHi all, going to leave a couple of links for Roy.  Its about MS stock price current and projected based on Office and Windows percent of profitability.  Which has been going down since 2007.  I believe MS will keep having to layoff more employees and outsourcing to have any chance at keeping profits up short term.Mar 01 07:55
MinceRi wish they were dying faster.Mar 01 07:56
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://seekingalpha.com/article/255511-2-microsoft-concerns-that-may-deflate-our-enthusiasmMar 01 07:56
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Chips_B_Malroywould quote from this one, but just too much to quote here.  And I think they are actually too easy on MS. Mar 01 07:56
gnufreexOracle is behaving like mob really. They go to customers who use thier proprietary software, and lie them that they broke EULA. Then threaten they will charge them retroactively if they don't buy ExaData.Mar 01 07:57
MinceRsince they apparently had enthusiasm, being easy on m$ is expectedMar 01 07:57
Chips_B_Malroyhttps://www.trefis.com/company?article=31546#Mar 01 07:57
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MinceRwhat's exadata?Mar 01 07:57
gnufreexI am glad Oracle DB is on way out of place where I workMar 01 07:57
gnufreexExaDAtaMar 01 07:57
gnufreexThat is Oracle DB aplianceMar 01 07:57
gnufreexVery expensiveMar 01 07:58
Chips_B_MalroyBoth links have enough to make a great MS article for Techrights.Mar 01 07:58
gnufreexLike a MainframeMar 01 07:58
Chips_B_Malroygn allMar 01 07:58
gnufreexAnd it has only crapy x86 CPUsMar 01 07:58
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gnufreexThre is also ExaLogicMar 01 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Still Uses the Word “Choice” to Lie to the Public http://ur1.ca/3d3g4 #google #ooxml #lockin #spin #prMar 01 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "A Remote Access Trojan (RAT) for Windows, known as darkComet, has been ported to Mac OS X" http://ur1.ca/3d3gwMar 01 07:58
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gnufreexThat is WebLogic applianceMar 01 07:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down http://ur1.ca/3d3ha #security #anonymousMar 01 08:00
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gnufreexMinceR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_ExadataMar 01 08:02
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gnufreexIt costs north of $10mMar 01 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Checking out Friendika richslxh@demo.friendika.com Seems quite clean, and well featured. I like the themes and instant avatar.Mar 01 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shaking Down Science - http://bit.ly/fgbQRy Why do #IEEE and #ACM act against the interests of scholars? (v @ioerror)Mar 01 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] support Tumucumaque Park - http://bit.ly/eVRPkr good to see #mozilla doing its bit #conservation #amazoniaMar 01 08:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London Stock Exchange Woes not Linux's Fault - http://zd.net/geINEu good to know (v @opensourcerer @hnfirehose) #linux #lseMar 01 08:08
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DaemonFCactually, a trojan shouldn't be big news on any OSMar 01 08:09
DaemonFCthere was one targeting Debian/Ubuntu a while back posing as a Metacity themeMar 01 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @MrAlanCooper @codinghorror Every time a software patent is registered, an angel is bludgeoned to death with a shoe. >>weird but trueMar 01 08:12
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DaemonFCApple finally officially killed Java after years of neglectMar 01 08:13
DaemonFCthey have been known to leave security holes in Java unpatched for up to 6 months at a timeMar 01 08:13
DaemonFCand they've never made it easy to develop Java applications or even use them without feeling like you're in some kind of third world systemMar 01 08:14
FaitherhiyaMar 01 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @paulirish http://www.koalastothemax.com = fantastic SVG magic powered by d3.js: http://goo.gl/HaOIO by Sir @mbostock of Polymaps & P ...Mar 01 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @johnallsopp in short - AT&T is giving away $10K for the best HTML5 app - entries close March 8 http://bit.ly/e0hpdVMar 01 08:20
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DaemonFCPeople are reviewing Ubuntu 11.04 yetMar 01 08:21
DaemonFCUnity is NOT ready, not even alpha qualityMar 01 08:22
DaemonFCthey're either going to end up backing it out at the last moment or shipping something that's full of bugs and missing basic featuresMar 01 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: O Republicans, take care of the most important stuff first...starting with those pesky green initiatives... http://t.co/4m6ryGhMar 01 08:23
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gnufreexLSE problems is probably due to Microsoft sabotage.Mar 01 08:25
gnufreexThey will keep doing it to convince people .NET didn't crash LSE fist timeMar 01 08:26
gnufreexAnd they will keep sabotaging until someone gets jailed for sabotage.Mar 01 08:27
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cubexyzhello from freebsdMar 01 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Miguel de Icaza is at Microsoft, Attacking Ubuntu GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/3d3mw putting the recent attacks on !Ubuntu in perspectiveMar 01 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Miguel de Icaza is at #Microsoft , Attacking #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/3d3mw putting the recent attacks on #Ubuntu in perspectiveMar 01 08:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel 2.6.32.30-#longterm review http://bit.ly/hHu3FV #2632 68 patches, "Responses should be made by Wed, March 2, 16:00, 2010 [..]Mar 01 08:38
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gnufreexUh... I thought he is finaly working for Microsfot.Mar 01 08:46
gnufreexBut he's just on summitMar 01 08:46
cubexyzwow, some FOSS person he turned out to beMar 01 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @verighete: Diamante.ro va ureaza o primavara fericita ! http://fb.me/TmGZEPluMar 01 08:50
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gnufreexWhen his Mono cult is on FOSDEM, they get separate room because other don't want to have anything to do with them.Mar 01 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Amusing ourselves to death http://ur1.ca/3d3p6Mar 01 08:53
gnufreexOn MSFT summit, he is with his tribe. Everone likes him there.Mar 01 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ZIUAdeConstanta: Doua frumoase dobrogence au ajuns in semifinala Miss Universe Romania http://goo.gl/fb/NzthU - ZIUA de ConstantaMar 01 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SCO is Selling Its Assets, But What About Novell? http://ur1.ca/3d3pn #Novell is similar to #SCO a decade agoMar 01 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] SCO is Selling Its Assets, But What About Novell? http://ur1.ca/3d3pn #cptn #attachmsft #swpats #unix #unXisMar 01 08:58
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DaemonFChttp://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/feb/28/bosma-no-dealsoff-floor-of-house/Mar 01 09:00
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DaemonFCnearly half of Indiana's state government is in exile in Illinois to prevent anti-labor bills from passing the state houseMar 01 09:00
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 09:00
DaemonFCRepublicans are running attack ads against them on the radioMar 01 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @LucianSavluc: March 1st - Romanian celebration of the beginning of Spring. One "Mărţişor" for all ladies in the world http://is.gd/OFDJlnMar 01 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat's "obfuscated" kernel source http://ur1.ca/3d3rz @jwildeboer @fontana - comment?Mar 01 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Still Uses the Word “Choice” to Lie to the Public http://is.gd/HNnvMJ #microsoft #windows #office #msoffice #softwareMar 01 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomaniaBizNews: #Ford B-Max produced in #Romania was presented in #Geneva - http://blitzclick.ro/YR6Mar 01 09:07
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DaemonFCYou have lots of choices with Microsoft, why with operating systems alone you have Windows Basic, Home, Professional, Ultimate, Enterprise, Home Server, Server Standard, Server Enterprise........Mar 01 09:07
DaemonFCyou're never more than $100 or so and 26 alphanumeric digits away from the next imaginary notch higherMar 01 09:08
DaemonFCand with Office, you have even more choicesMar 01 09:08
DaemonFCare choices good? :)Mar 01 09:08
DaemonFCI think soMar 01 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Google Streetview cars - "!Ubuntu in the trunk" http://goo.gl/TrTJEMar 01 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 20 years of innovative Windows malware http://is.gd/KdaJ3N #microsoft #windows #msoffice #software #officeMar 01 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu Mascots Wallpaper - now with narwhal included! http://goo.gl/VDNX9Mar 01 09:08
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DaemonFCAfter you pay $230 for Windows Ultimate, they make you spend half an hour on the phone trying to get the activation system to understand your voiceMar 01 09:09
DaemonFCbut you have the choice to activate online, unless they think you've reinstalled Windows too many timesMar 01 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] RT @boycottnovell SCO is Selling Its Assets, But What About Novell? http://ur1.ca/3d3pn #cptn #attachmsft #swpats #unix #unXisMar 01 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: #Honeycomb statue arrives at Google, immediately rooted http://goo.gl/Gur8q !androidMar 01 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] RT @schestowitz Miguel de Icaza is at #Microsoft , Attacking #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/3d3mw putting the recent attacks on #Ub ...Mar 01 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] RT @rms Internet astroturfing http://ur1.ca/3d3jrMar 01 09:12
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MinceR091145 < DaemonFC> they have been known to leave security holes in Java unpatched for up to 6 months at a timeMar 01 09:13
MinceRum, crApple does that to pretty much every sw they shipMar 01 09:13
MinceRincluding BINDMar 01 09:13
MinceRso by that logic they should drop everythingMar 01 09:13
MinceR...which would actually be a good thingMar 01 09:13
DaemonFClmaoMar 01 09:14
DaemonFCour new OS has no security flaws and runs as fast as your imagination can conceiveMar 01 09:14
DaemonFCbut what is it?Mar 01 09:14
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MinceRan infinite loop in the MBR?Mar 01 09:15
DaemonFCpay them then imagine that you're using their latest productMar 01 09:15
DaemonFCit's also very energy efficientMar 01 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Trojan targets the Mac, while Apple finally reaches out to security pros - http://bit.ly/hEuxpX first of many? #security #appleMar 01 09:15
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China Unicom plans to dominate China with its own mobile OS - http://bit.ly/hnOWGz based, of course, on #linux #china #mobilesMar 01 09:15
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*MinceR did cli;hlt in the boot sector and called it mini windozMar 01 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Righthaven Sues Radio Giant For Hosting Caption Contest On Denver Post Photo - http://bit.ly/gmyenx Righthaven driven mad by #copyright?Mar 01 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ryan Lortie on !Canonical: a step back http://goo.gl/GtsBC A great (and wise) post on the releationship of !Gnome and Canonical. !uMar 01 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: #Audacity: The Free Dimensional Sound Editor, Part One http://bit.ly/fdcnmk #gnu #linux #windows #audio #microsoft #softwareMar 01 09:20
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DaemonFCMinceR, I think what pisses me off about Ubuntu is advice like "don't ever use rm -rf"Mar 01 09:21
MinceR:>Mar 01 09:21
DaemonFCit's there for a reason, and you should look at what you typed before you hit enterMar 01 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #Linux and Free Software Shave Microsoft’s Margins http://ur1.ca/3d3us #windows #office #finance #margin #commodityMar 01 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !GNU !Linux and Free Software Shave Microsoft’s Margins http://ur1.ca/3d3us !windows #microsoftMar 01 09:22
DaemonFCbut to say don't use it is asinineMar 01 09:22
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MinceRthat doesn't piss me off nearly so much as pushing m$ agenda at every opportunityMar 01 09:22
MinceRand pushing stupid shit into the GUIMar 01 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The folly of #CCTV in schools - http://bit.ly/fCrBAi interesting reflection on effects of school architecture on securityMar 01 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Welcome to Righthaven Lawsuits - http://bit.ly/fla5VB site with useful info on #righthaven nuttiness (v @wood5y)Mar 01 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 70% of the Public Finds #Piracy Socially Acceptable - http://bit.ly/dH7nDZ #copyright maximalism drives disrespect for the law: that's badMar 01 09:25
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schestowitz[08:25] <gnufreex> LSE problems is probably due to Microsoft sabotage.Mar 01 09:26
schestowitzWrite about it if you have evidenceMar 01 09:26
schestowitzOtherwise it's mostly speculation, like what Groklaw has been doingMar 01 09:26
gnufreexYeah, it is speculation.Mar 01 09:27
gnufreexBut it is only explanation.Mar 01 09:28
MinceRmaybe someday someone will leak evidenceMar 01 09:28
cubexyzah, I don't think you can go wrong assuming Microsoft == Evil :)Mar 01 09:28
gnufreexSince NYSE and bunch of others have no problems.Mar 01 09:28
MinceRuntil then nobody can prove anythingMar 01 09:28
MinceRand what cubexyz saidMar 01 09:28
MinceRm$ just keeps on proving what they're all aboutMar 01 09:29
gnufreexThey all use RHEL, while LSE use SUSE.Mar 01 09:29
gnufreexAnd Novell has no problem with shooting it's footMar 01 09:29
gnufreexThey call it pragmatismMar 01 09:29
gnufreexThey "pragmatically" took MSFT money to promote OOXMLMar 01 09:29
gnufreexSo they are maybe now pragmatically sabotaging their own OSMar 01 09:30
DaemonFCschestowitz, I actually got one of my MSN contacts to get rid of MSNMar 01 09:30
MinceRniceMar 01 09:30
MinceRi wish i could do thatMar 01 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] NYSE, Deutsche Borse merger places IT on the front line http://is.gd/M0SOLa #nyse #gnu #linux #stock #microsoft #software #windowsMar 01 09:30
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DaemonFCI'm using Google Talk nowMar 01 09:31
cubexyzI mean with comments like "knife the baby"...Mar 01 09:31
DaemonFCI only had a few MSN contacts left that I spoke to recently and all of them are now on Google TalkMar 01 09:31
cubexyzyou know what they're likeMar 01 09:31
schestowitz[09:29] <gnufreex> They all use RHEL, while LSE use SUSE.Mar 01 09:31
DaemonFCso I can hopefully shut down that MSN account and not look at it againMar 01 09:31
schestowitzThe UK is FOSS-shyMar 01 09:31
schestowitzMust pay Microsoft for Linux...Mar 01 09:31
cubexyzUK is more FOSS than we are :-/Mar 01 09:32
gnufreexDOes UK have SWpats?Mar 01 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple #iTunes accounts hacked as more rogue developers emerge - http://bit.ly/eSR4wy tell me again why closed is safer than open?Mar 01 09:33
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gnufreexWow... Look at MSFT troll in comments: http://blogs.fsfe.org/micuintus/2011/02/12/the-death-of-the/Mar 01 09:33
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schestowitzgnufreex: thanks to Nokia, sort ofMar 01 09:34
schestowitz!google symbian uk software patents dllMar 01 09:34
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The IP guide to: Software patents | http://www.cpaglobal.com/newlegalreview/4426/ip_guide_software_patentsMar 01 09:34
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Patent Law Briefing SPC 1.DOC | http://www.keltie.com/PDF%2520files/Symbian%2520Limited%2520and%2520Comptroller%2520General%2520of%2520Patents.pdfMar 01 09:34
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Symbian's Patently Terrible “Triumph” - Open Enterprise | http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2008/10/symbians-patently-terrible-triumph/index.htmMar 01 09:34
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - April 2010 - Patent Attorneys, Trademark Attorneys. | http://www.londonip.com/articles_april_2010.htmlMar 01 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] LSE’s GNU/Linux Delay: Disgruntled Employees or Microsoft Sabotage? http://ur1.ca/39iom #groklaw suspects stock exchange #sabotageMar 01 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #GNU #Linux and Free Software Shave Microsoft’s Margins http://ur1.ca/3d3us #windows #office #finance #margin #commodityMar 01 09:35
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schestowitz[09:33] <gnufreex> Wow... Look at MSFT troll in comments: http://blogs.fsfe.org/micuintus/2011/02/12/the-death-of-the/Mar 01 09:36
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schestowitzyeah, I see...Mar 01 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LSE’s !GNU !Linux Delay: Disgruntled Employees or #Microsoft Sabotage? http://ur1.ca/39iom #groklaw suspects the latterMar 01 09:37
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cubexyz"the UK Intellectual Property Office regularly grants patents to inventions that are partly or wholly implemented in software"Mar 01 09:37
schestowitzgnufreex: https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/42514529820737536Mar 01 09:37
TechrightsBot-tr@jwildeboer: @schestowitz I have my opinion on that, but trust me, its been overexaggerated by LWN.Mar 01 09:37
schestowitzre Red Hat trickMar 01 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] RT @schestowitz #GNU #Linux and Free Software Shave Microsoft’s Margins http://ur1.ca/3d3us #windows #office #finance #margin #commodityMar 01 09:38
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gnufreexschestowitz: Yeah, it is not like they completely closed down sources to non paying customers.Mar 01 09:39
gnufreexJust changelog. To make Oracle's life harder. Mar 01 09:39
gnufreexCentOS and Scientific Linux have no problemsMar 01 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 2 Microsoft Concerns That May Deflate Our Enthusiasm http://is.gd/cWNHzs #microsoft #stock #financeMar 01 09:40
gnufreexSince they don't make their own patchesMar 01 09:40
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gnufreexJust take what RH makesMar 01 09:40
MinceRactually they kind of do have a problemMar 01 09:40
gnufreexScientific linux haveMar 01 09:40
MinceRbecause they can't provide individual patches eitherMar 01 09:40
MinceRthey can choose between providing a stock kernel, their own patchset or the patched source blob from RHMar 01 09:41
MinceRunless someone starts regularly leaking the RH repo, of courseMar 01 09:41
gnufreexNo, they get entire source from RHMar 01 09:41
gnufreexAnd they just rebuild it.Mar 01 09:42
gnufreexCentOS has no problemsMar 01 09:42
gnufreexThey don't need to understand what RH changedMar 01 09:42
gnufreexOracle doesMar 01 09:42
gnufreexthey need to understand so they can fix bugs and such.Mar 01 09:42
gnufreexBut Debian is also having problemsMar 01 09:43
*DaemonFC decides to see what effect -march=amdfam10 has on SauerbratenMar 01 09:43
gnufreexBecuase they can't easily pull patches from RH kernel anymoreMar 01 09:43
gnufreexIn fact they can.Mar 01 09:43
gnufreexBut needs more timeMar 01 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Positive Balance of #Technology - http://bit.ly/gftHoh "somewhere a boy or girl is waiting for us to invent their technology"Mar 01 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Question: Why do we need to jailbreak our OLPCs :(Mar 01 09:43
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gnufreexto see what's whatMar 01 09:43
gnufreexScientific Linux also can have problems, since they do patching. It is not carbon copy like CentOS.Mar 01 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @illumin8: @fabsh im sure youve seen this by now, but STILL! http://helpnathanbuyfirefly.com/Mar 01 09:47
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schestowitzI've just replied to Jan.Mar 01 09:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/42520528585637888Mar 01 09:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @jwildeboer it's similar to the reaction I typically get from @jonobacon (except the rocking and awesome) - dissociation from employerMar 01 09:47
MinceRgnufreex: sure, but this means that CentOS and SL get to provide less useful source packages to their users in turnMar 01 09:49
gnufreexYes.. that sucksMar 01 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Government Stings Chinese Websites Baidu.com, Taobao.com As "Notorious Markets" - http://bit.ly/eMdl8b says "notorious bully"Mar 01 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] OH @heatsynclabs: This world needs more wub. wub wub wubbbbb #dubstepMar 01 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ReporterVirtual: A murit actriţa Jane Russell, un sex-simbol http://bit.ly/ffu19aMar 01 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. Government Stings Chinese Websites Baidu.com, Taobao.com As "Notorious Markets" - ChinaTechNews.com - The Technology Source for the Latest Chinese News on Internet, Computers, Digital, Science, Electronics, Law, Security, Software, Web 2.0, Telecom, and Wireless Industries .::. Size~: 63.38 KBMar 01 09:50
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gnufreexProblem is that changes that RH did to stock kernel are not clearly visible anymore.Mar 01 09:50
DaemonFCwine has copy protection compatibility, kind ofMar 01 09:51
DaemonFCit depends on what version of what compiler you use with what settingsMar 01 09:51
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 09:51
DaemonFCmostly on OpenSuse it just crashes :DMar 01 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Apple #iTunes accounts hacked as more rogue developers emerge - http://bit.ly/eSR4wy tell me again why closed is safer than open?Mar 01 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @thetecheye: “Oscar Wilde was 70 years ahead of his time” - Mike Magee #quoteMar 01 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google Docs offers Optical Character Recognition (#OCR) in 34 languages - http://bit.ly/hZX2d1 wow, potentially v useful if it's any goodMar 01 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Following @flattrchattrMar 01 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google looking to launch YouTube movie service in UK http://ur1.ca/3d409 no DRM hopefully?Mar 01 09:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple iTunes accounts hacked as more rogue developers emerge  .::. Size~: 85.85 KBMar 01 09:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Optical Character Recognition (OCR) in 34 languages - Docs Blog .::. Size~: 47.26 KBMar 01 09:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KBMar 01 09:52
DaemonFCright now I notice if you build Wine with GCC 4.6, the copy protection compatibility is just goneMar 01 09:52
gnufreexwhat copy protection?Mar 01 09:52
gnufreexDRM?Mar 01 09:52
DaemonFCand GCC 4.6 might or might not compile code (including parts of the Linux kernel) that worked beforeMar 01 09:53
schestowitzI'm gussingMar 01 09:53
schestowitz*essingMar 01 09:53
gnufreexGCC 4.6 is not released yetMar 01 09:53
DaemonFCgnufreex, Yeah, normally I wouldn't care, but lately those modules have to run or else you can't get the thing installed at allMar 01 09:53
DaemonFCused to be I didn't care because I'd go get a fixed exe anywayMar 01 09:53
DaemonFCyou can use GCC 4.3, 4.4 safely, and 4.5 with recent builds of Wine, say 1.2 or laterMar 01 09:54
DaemonFCand probably be ok with games that use SecuROMMar 01 09:54
MinceRwhy not use cracked versionsMar 01 09:55
MinceR?Mar 01 09:55
DaemonFCI just saidMar 01 09:55
MinceRno DRM, no problemMar 01 09:55
DaemonFCif you can't get the installer to load, you don't get far enough to worry about fetching the cracksMar 01 09:55
MinceRicMar 01 09:55
DaemonFCI've been going back through Oblivion again latelyMar 01 09:56
MinceRi guess it's time for warez groups to produce their own installer packages :>Mar 01 09:56
DaemonFCWine has gotten DirectX 9 support good enough to even flip on HDR now and be OKMar 01 09:56
gnufreexOblivion rocksMar 01 09:56
DaemonFCand the framerate is comparable to Windows XPMar 01 09:56
gnufreexMinceR: they already doMar 01 09:57
gnufreexThey make ripsMar 01 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Anonymous Joins The #Wisconsin Protests By Taking Out Americans For Prosperity http://ur1.ca/3d40f #koch #astroturf #robberbaronMar 01 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad #websense at work has been configured to block identi.ca. have to implement socks to test it now. #identicurseMar 01 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Today, I celebrate nine years of togetherness with the woman I love. Thank you, @th3k4ty!Mar 01 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Why's it so easy to make fun of dubstep? #wubbbbwubwubwubwubMar 01 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Analysis: #DHS plans on scanning #DNA at checkpoints - http://bit.ly/hbaytL madness - & another good reason not to go to the USMar 01 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous Joins Wisconsin Protests: Takes Out Americans For Prosperity .::. Size~: 155.73 KBMar 01 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: DHS plans on scanning DNA at checkpoints | TG Daily .::. Size~: 40.67 KBMar 01 09:57
DaemonFCyeah, you bypass the installer completely that wayMar 01 09:57
DaemonFCI do have licensed copies of the games I end up having to crackMar 01 09:57
gnufreexWhen will next Morowing come out?Mar 01 09:57
DaemonFCthat's the sick partMar 01 09:57
gnufreex*windMar 01 09:57
DaemonFCnot sureMar 01 09:58
gnufreexI played every single oneMar 01 09:58
DaemonFCMorrowind and the expansions all run ok in WineMar 01 09:58
gnufreexI meant Elder ScrollsMar 01 09:58
DaemonFCyesMar 01 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnufreex No, it ain't "forever" (GNU Hurd code_swarm from 1991 to 2010) http://ur1.ca/3cqsuMar 01 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, it ain't "forever" (GNU Hurd code_swarm from 1991 to 2010) : hurd .::. Size~: 36.17 KBMar 01 09:58
gnufreexMorowind is edition 3Mar 01 09:58
gnufreexI thinkMar 01 09:58
gnufreexOblivion is 4Mar 01 09:58
DaemonFCFGLRX used to be such garbage that you could forget about gaming in wine, periodMar 01 09:59
DaemonFCit has improvedMar 01 09:59
DaemonFCWine? Half the time native Linux stuff caused problems :)Mar 01 09:59
DaemonFCremember resizing windows in Compiz?Mar 01 09:59
DaemonFCahhh, memoriesMar 01 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Minimise and maximise buttons were recently removed from the window titlebars in !GNOME 3. But where did the buttons go? http://goo.gl/A9MblMar 01 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Where did the buttons go? | afaik .::. Size~: 24.79 KBMar 01 10:00
gnufreexHmm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_ScrollsMar 01 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Elder Scrolls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 65.29 KBMar 01 10:00
DaemonFCI did notice something about the free drivers thoughMar 01 10:01
gnufreexI didn't play this "Battlespire" partMar 01 10:01
DaemonFCvsync kills themMar 01 10:01
DaemonFCforce it off globally or get ready for some SloooowwwwwwMar 01 10:01
MinceRrips tend to omit content thoughMar 01 10:01
MinceRin-game movies, for exampleMar 01 10:01
MinceRor musicMar 01 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 People from around the world demand the protection of WikiLeaks: teaser http://alturl.com/qwwuo !wlMar 01 10:02
DaemonFCyeah, or you end up with the Russian version of the gameMar 01 10:02
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DaemonFCthat was a 4 GB download well spentMar 01 10:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 10:02
MinceR:>Mar 01 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lovenemesis Err, !linux #Btrfs continues cutting half of the #SQLite performance. Not good, really. http://is.gd/Ncw8APMar 01 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenBenchmarking.org - Linux 2.6.35 File-Systems, Linux 2.6.37 File-Systems, Linux 2.6.38 File-Systems Comparison Benchmarks .::. Size~: 139.96 KBMar 01 10:03
DaemonFCXFS speeds up nicely with delaylog and transparent huge page supportMar 01 10:04
DaemonFCyou have to patch that into 2.6.37 thoughMar 01 10:04
DaemonFCTHP anywayMar 01 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @birgittaj Protests all over the world, little news in mainstream media - only way to follow the global revolutionary pulse is via twitterMar 01 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] A brief introduction to dubstep http://ur1.ca/3d43d #WUBWUBBBBBBMar 01 10:07
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DaemonFCBtrFS, it's just like Ext4 except that GRUB doesn't know what it is and it's half as fastMar 01 10:07
DaemonFCyay Oracle!Mar 01 10:07
DaemonFCit would be nice if they dropped the BtrFS nonsense and just released ZFS under GPLMar 01 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @birgittaj #Google and #Facebook may be handing your data to the Feds without your knowledge! Tell them to stopMar 01 10:08
gnufreexI think BTRFS is just a scam, they practicaly cut its funding since they started talks with Sun.Mar 01 10:09
gnufreexAnd RH engineer discovered that BTRFS is broken by design.Mar 01 10:09
DaemonFCif Fedora defaults to BtrFS I'll be using Ext4 or XFS in spite of themMar 01 10:09
DaemonFCno way am I using that shitMar 01 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google reveals how many requests per country are made for users' information by the government, but Google does not inform the usersMar 01 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I think i have developed ROARS on !irc (Random Outburst And Rant Syndrome)Mar 01 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Report calls for in-depth public inquiry into ‘shocking’ abuses at G20 summit http://ur1.ca/3d441 #policebrutality #g20Mar 01 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: 5 Free Software To Support With #Flattr http://goo.gl/XGv1qMar 01 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Report calls for in-depth public inquiry into ‘shocking’ abuses at G20 summit - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 94.95 KBMar 01 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 5 Free Software To Support With Flattr | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 55.25 KBMar 01 10:10
gnufreexThey should cancel that and go with Tux3Mar 01 10:10
gnufreexbut it seems tux3 is deadMar 01 10:10
gnufreexThis is worse than I could imagine with tinfoil hat on http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/feb/23/need-to-protect-internet-from-astroturfing Mar 01 10:11
DaemonFCEric Sandeen pointed out that Phoronix Test Suite is bogus because they said that Ext3 was processing files faster than the filesystem was capable of no matter what device it was onMar 01 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  The need to protect the internet from 'astroturfing' grows ever more urgent | George Monbiot | Environment | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 261.25 KBMar 01 10:11
DaemonFCbut BtrFS is definitely slowMar 01 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☂ Memorable Links: Looking through the list of domain names I’ve acquired over the years, I realised I had a cou... http://wmk.me/i3R5V9Mar 01 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice Conference in Paris from October 12-15: http://conference.libreoffice.org/pr/ !libo !tdfMar 01 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @alvar_f: Den #Guttenberg #Rücktritt gibt es (11:15 angekündigt) live bei #Phoenix: http://bit.ly/h5OlN6Mar 01 10:12
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DaemonFCbtrfs is so much slower than ext3/4 XFS that you can feel itMar 01 10:12
DaemonFCyou don't even really need a benchmark except to put a precise number on how damned slow it isMar 01 10:12
DaemonFCgo ahead and install Fedora on BtrFS, I'll see you in about 3-4 hoursMar 01 10:13
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @toros Commented.Mar 01 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Put your tinfoil hat on, and think about astroturfing. Then multiply that 10x. You're wrong, it is even worse http://ur1.ca/3blddMar 01 10:13
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLMar 01 10:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  The need to protect the internet from 'astroturfing' grows ever more urgent | George Monbiot | Environment | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 261.2 KBMar 01 10:14
DaemonFCgnufreex, Reiser4 is actually better in many ways than BtrFSMar 01 10:14
DaemonFCcertainly faster and more reliable, not like that's hardMar 01 10:14
DaemonFCbut you can only get in the kernel if you're a big corporationMar 01 10:15
DaemonFCeven if the technology is questionable, useless, or crapMar 01 10:15
gnufreexDoes raiser has a computer in prison.Mar 01 10:16
gnufreex?Mar 01 10:16
DaemonFCin my opinion, Reiser4 should be merged, there's no good reason not toMar 01 10:16
gnufreexHe could do something useful.Mar 01 10:16
gnufreexAt least he has time now.Mar 01 10:16
DaemonFCEdward Shishken is a Red Hat employee and has been maintaining Reiser4 for years nowMar 01 10:16
DaemonFCno matter how much he fixes it up they make another excuse why it can't go inMar 01 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @georgeorwell Thousands taken in by appealing programme of People’s Convention, do not realise it is defeatist manoeuvre to help Hitler.Mar 01 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @howardknopf #Righthaven defendant threatens to seek settlement #refunds - http://ur1.ca/3crf6 #copyright #justiceMar 01 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Righthaven defendant threatens to seek settlement refunds - Sunday, Feb. 27, 2011 | 2:51 p.m. - Las Vegas Sun .::. Size~: 96.46 KBMar 01 10:17
gnufreexShishken is one that found that BTRFS is garbage.Mar 01 10:17
DaemonFCI told you, BtrFS is garbage with a big company behind itMar 01 10:17
DaemonFCso it goes in even though it's in a pre-alpha state, buggy as shit....Mar 01 10:18
DaemonFCand no firm commitment to it by a reliable upstreamMar 01 10:18
gnufreexMaybe they could just rename Reiser4  and make some changes and it is good to go.Mar 01 10:18
DaemonFCupstream is a patent troll with a history of frivolous lawsuits and abandonment of open source projectsMar 01 10:18
gnufreexFor example call it BestFSMar 01 10:19
gnufreexBetter than BTRFS for sureMar 01 10:19
gnufreexNobody wants to have murderer in his kernelMar 01 10:19
DaemonFCReiser4 is actually a very nice file system, and you can avoid this data loss nightmare that Ext*, XFS, etc haveMar 01 10:19
DaemonFCbecause it's atomicMar 01 10:19
MinceRgnufreex: the filesystem is not a murdererMar 01 10:19
DaemonFCa transaction totally succeeds or totally fails, the file system is never in an inconsistent stateMar 01 10:20
MinceR(unless it's misconfigured XFS or misconfigured ext4 :> )Mar 01 10:20
schestowitzLOLMar 01 10:20
DaemonFCI've lost data to Ext4 and XFSMar 01 10:20
DaemonFCI question how Google could be moving to Ext4Mar 01 10:20
gnufreexMinceR: That is why I say they should rename it.Mar 01 10:20
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MinceRi don't think it needs to be renamed.Mar 01 10:21
DaemonFCMinceR, I have Ubuntu on Reiser4 on one of my systemsMar 01 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. This Yogscast is amazingly good! http://outl.ws/e8AqvDMar 01 10:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Minecraft    .::. Size~: 82.13 KBMar 01 10:22
DaemonFCI've been maintaining my own patched kernel for itMar 01 10:22
DaemonFCsince 2007 I have not lost one file to itMar 01 10:23
DaemonFCa lot of this data loss FUD is coming from people like Ted Tso to cover for their own shoddy workMar 01 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante !Flattr now has charity accounts who pay not charge. Support your favourite charities now: http://ur1.ca/3b8mlMar 01 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Flattr - Social micropayments .::. Size~: 11.88 KBMar 01 10:23
schestowitzRed Hat update: https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/42527156512886784 but he said he already knew about itMar 01 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr@jwildeboer: @schestowitz not dissociation, I am simply not fully informed ATM. I am on CeBIT, no mail access ATM.Mar 01 10:24
DaemonFCI'd like very much to put my main system on Reiser4, but I wouldn't until it's mergedMar 01 10:24
schestowitzFontana has not replied yet about Red Hat's odd patchesMar 01 10:24
DaemonFCit's one of those what if it becomes abandoned and I end up having to format itMar 01 10:24
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Fontana_(Law_%26_Order)Mar 01 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Joe Fontana (Law & Order) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 42.49 KBMar 01 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm when i was in high school i could type faster with 1 finger than all my friends taking typing.. was clocked at 45 wpm [..]Mar 01 10:25
DaemonFCThat Fontana? :)Mar 01 10:25
schestowitzRed Hat Lo-yarMar 01 10:25
DaemonFCyou can clone it, just don't ask what's in itMar 01 10:26
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 10:26
DaemonFCit's a surprise!Mar 01 10:26
DaemonFCI'm not really sure what to think about RHEL, I think they give upstream when it suits them, but they keep a lot of the good stuff near and dear, buried deep inside some million line of code source RPM Mar 01 10:28
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Oh God! We're so screwed!" LOL http://outl.ws/hXUE6hMar 01 10:28
gnufreexschestowitz: They are not going to reply. It is corporate policy, some RH hackers already got asked and they sent people to PR department. Mar 01 10:28
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DaemonFCFedora only has out of tree patches when they're waiting to be merged, and if they don't get merged, they drop them soon enoughMar 01 10:28
DaemonFCFedora is 99% upstreamMar 01 10:28
DaemonFCand their patches are all visibleMar 01 10:29
gnufreexschestowtiz: http://lwn.net/Articles/430235/Mar 01 10:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat's "obfuscated" kernel source [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.97 KBMar 01 10:29
DaemonFCit doesn't make sense to do a lot of downstream work, you end up getting his fixing the same bugs over and over again every time you pull from upstreamMar 01 10:29
DaemonFC*hitMar 01 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mo6020: Dragon Age 2 looks totally epic..Mar 01 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Oh God! That cow's moo got cut off." http://outl.ws/hklSDyMar 01 10:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Minecraft - Part 2: Spending the Night in Simon's Shack    .::. Size~: 144.55 KBMar 01 10:30
DaemonFCif you look at Ubuntu's patch set, all 50 bazillion of them, you have to wonder if you should trust the system with your dataMar 01 10:30
DaemonFCgiven that they're holding it together with a wad of chewing gum here and thereMar 01 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: "Ich werde mich von allen politischen Ämtern zurückziehen." Guttenberg will also auch nicht mehr im Bundestag bleiben?Mar 01 10:32
DaemonFCthere never used to be so many, but every distribution release, their pile of patches gets a little biggerMar 01 10:32
DaemonFCit's going up faster than it's going down, and that should worry people thinking of using UbuntuMar 01 10:32
DaemonFClook at the change log every time there's an update, you'll see a bunch of patches labeled "sauce", that's what those areMar 01 10:33
DaemonFCI'm not against smoothing over the rough edges of Debian and making a better end user system, Linux Mint Debian Edition manages this without many patches that touch core parts of the OSMar 01 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Government Targets Large #BitTorrent Sites And Trackers - http://bit.ly/fqdxfR will it try to seize names? will it matter anyway?Mar 01 10:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    U.S. Government Targets Large BitTorrent Sites And Trackers | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 26.77 KBMar 01 10:35
DaemonFCthepiratebay.org might be in troubleMar 01 10:35
DaemonFCorg is a tld controlled by the US Mar 01 10:35
DaemonFCit's why Demonoid moved from .com to .meMar 01 10:36
DaemonFCit always amused me that OpenSuse patched KTorrent to give the user a stern talking to about "piracy" through the tip of the day windowMar 01 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL ♺ @phayz: Quote of 2012: "I remember the days of LO before Fab discovered Minecraft." :)Mar 01 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The dogs who listen to children reading - http://bit.ly/fDocfi wonderful concept: "non-judgmental dogs"Mar 01 10:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  The dogs who listen to children reading | Education | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 95.1 KBMar 01 10:37
DaemonFCthen the search box searches the piratebay.orgMar 01 10:37
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 10:37
DaemonFC*thepiratebay.orgMar 01 10:37
DaemonFCgoes something like "Please respect copyrights, copyrights make free software possible!"Mar 01 10:38
DaemonFCno, free software exists in spite of copyrights, and trademarks, and patentsMar 01 10:38
DaemonFC:PMar 01 10:38
DaemonFCfascistsMar 01 10:38
MinceR:>Mar 01 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government attacks EU fishing rules - http://bit.ly/i2rFCM stop the madness of discards now #fishMar 01 10:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Government attacks EU fishing rules | Environment | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 202.17 KBMar 01 10:38
MinceRfree software subverts copyright, especially copyleftMar 01 10:39
DaemonFC"Red Hat is making things harder by shipping its RHEL 6 kernel source as one big tarball, without breaking out the patches."Mar 01 10:39
DaemonFCprobably why Oracle uses their own kernel and keeps the RHEL-compatible one in the backgroundMar 01 10:40
gnufreexwithout copyright, GPL wouldn't workMar 01 10:40
gnufreexAnd MSFT EULA would still workMar 01 10:40
DaemonFCit's not feasible to route through 15 million lines of code to see what the fuck Red Hat didMar 01 10:40
gnufreexsince it is a contractMar 01 10:40
MinceRgnufreex: a society where GPL is unnecessary can existMar 01 10:41
MinceRwe're just far from it nowMar 01 10:41
MinceRthat doesn't mean we should stick to copyright foreverMar 01 10:41
gnufreexYeah, it can exist, but I have no hope I will live to see that day.Mar 01 10:41
MinceRespecially in the form it is nowMar 01 10:41
gnufreex300 years from now, maybeMar 01 10:42
MinceRi won't even try to predict when it's possible :>Mar 01 10:42
DaemonFCRHEL is probably doing this to make life hard for clones that want to fix bugs in RHEL sourceMar 01 10:42
DaemonFCthis way Red Hat is effectively the only one who can support the code baseMar 01 10:43
gnufreexIt requires this to happen first http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.htmlMar 01 10:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Right to Read - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 28.08 KBMar 01 10:43
DaemonFCit's a clever end run around the GPLMar 01 10:43
gnufreexAnd then liberation warMar 01 10:43
gnufreexAnd then GPL to be hardcoded into lawMar 01 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ‘Anonymous’ targets the brothers Koch, claiming attempts ‘to usurp American Democracy’ http://ur1.ca/3cqjc more on an important issueMar 01 10:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‘Anonymous’ targets the brothers Koch, claiming attempts ‘to usurp American Democracy’ |  The Raw Story .::. Size~: 52.06 KBMar 01 10:43
gnufreexand then maybeMar 01 10:43
gnufreex..Mar 01 10:44
DaemonFCI'd use Debian if I wanted Long Term Stable anythingMar 01 10:44
gnufreexBecause people will never beleive that clif is dangrous until someone jumpsMar 01 10:44
MinceRi do want Long Term Stable something :>Mar 01 10:44
DaemonFCjust because they're not hiding things from me, they have people who know what they're doing, and it's a bona fide community project that doesn't depend on some company to put out tarballs without breaking out patchesMar 01 10:45
DaemonFCLong Term Stable is for old ladiesMar 01 10:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 10:45
MinceRservers are run by old ladies? good to know.Mar 01 10:45
MinceRalso, production workstations are used by old ladiesMar 01 10:46
MinceRetc.Mar 01 10:46
MinceReveryone else wants to lose data and rebootMar 01 10:46
DaemonFCMinceR, One side effect of Catalyst being as slow as it is to support new kernels and X servers is that I more or less have to wait a couple months to upgrade to a new FedoraMar 01 10:46
DaemonFCby that time most of the nasty bugs are already patched anywayMar 01 10:46
DaemonFCthat's also why I use the DVD for fresh installsMar 01 10:47
DaemonFCI can enable Updates and other repos at install so I never have to start out with a buggy systemMar 01 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @debian Interview with Jon "Maddog" Hall discussing Project Caua #podcast #twid - http://bit.ly/dQU9j0Mar 01 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: 10 terms and concepts related to open source http://tek.io/i0RF40 #foss #gnu #linux #microsoft #software #windowsMar 01 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #LibreOffice Conference to be held in #Paris this October First annual project meeting from October 12th to 15th http://is.gd/3YVKPI #loMar 01 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: ECS 7 and 10 inch tablets launched at CeBIT http://nowskip.to/hR9W0X #meego #android #windowsMar 01 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @graziano: Help #gnewsense helping #debian How to report bug upstream: http://www.gnewsense.org/BugForwarding/LearningResourcesMar 01 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: ♺ @debian Interview with Jon "Maddog" Hall discussing Project Caua #podcast #twid - http://bit.ly/dQU9j0Mar 01 10:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Gravel is completely fucking useless in this game. And it looks horrible." #yogscastMar 01 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Geohot : We Built Your #PS3 . We Built This World. http://ur1.ca/3d4b1 #linux #drm #SCOnyMar 01 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @TimOfLegend: Oscar highlight for me was seeing this guy […] wearing his "Seat Filler" lanyard so proudly. http://yfrog.com/h2kelwfjMar 01 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Why did I even say the M word? Now I'm getting weird marriage spam on fucking Twitter!!! *sigh*Mar 01 10:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geohot: We Built Your PS3. We Built This World. - PS3Crunch .::. Size~: 103.46 KBMar 01 10:57
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DaemonFCthat "Spot" guy did a fantastic job with his build of Chromium for FedoraMar 01 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Reputation Economy is Coming – Are You Prepared? - http://bit.ly/efvgNm already here in the world of free softwareMar 01 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: Galaxy S 2 şi Tab 10.1, în România, din luna aprilie. #samsung #android #linux #gnuMar 01 10:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   The Reputation Economy is Coming – Are You Prepared? - Dan Schawbel - Personal Branding - Forbes .::. Size~: 127.44 KBMar 01 10:58
DaemonFCAdblock Plus is by far the best PC game of all timeMar 01 11:00
DaemonFCView Source and dig out all the ads that escaped itMar 01 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Google Nexus S with #Android 2.3 ('Gingerbread') - http://bit.ly/hxcc8e detailed review by @charlesarthurMar 01 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @StefaMedia: RT: @AndreiAvadanei: La RoCyberCon #3 discutam despre Linux & Windows si OOP in PHP 5 http://goo.gl/fb/NiWmBMar 01 11:00
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DaemonFCcrush them with a click of your mouseMar 01 11:00
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 11:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La RoCyberCon #3 discutam despre Linux & Windows si OOP in PHP 5 | WorldIT .::. Size~: 56.38 KBMar 01 11:00
DaemonFCI have the power!!!Mar 01 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @tct: @costel felicitări pentru crearea grupului !romania :-) punem steagul la avatar? xirincs.ro ce este? mulțumesc!Mar 01 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the tag #guttbye. That rocks. :DMar 01 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On #Linux, Software Patents, #Shakespeare & the Web - http://bit.ly/hhbzbw wide-ranging & interesting postMar 01 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Compass and Straightedge http://xkcd.com/866/ #XKCDMar 01 11:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nsisodiya Contribute FOSS with Summer internship at IIT Bombay - FOSSEE project http://tinyurl.com/4f8cnwmMar 01 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICE Boss: It's Okay To Ignore The Constitution If It's To Protect Companies - http://bit.ly/huc3yq frighteningly ignorant or just arrogant?Mar 01 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "We need to be efficient. Like the Germans..." :D #yogscastMar 01 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Narendra Sisodiya: Contribute FOSS with Summer internship at IIT Bombay - FOSSEE project .::. Size~: 124.2 KBMar 01 11:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfD5rnkTwsMar 01 11:09
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DaemonFCB-)Mar 01 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Infibeam Launches Pi2, #EBook Reader With Wi-Fi Connectivity and Touchscreen - http://bit.ly/hTxrva #Linux-based, from #indiaMar 01 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "ACTA goes beyond current EU law. #ACTA is legislation by the back door." http://ur1.ca/3d4dqMar 01 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @khertan: RT @nathiria: We just released QtMobility 1.1.1, Qt 4.7.2, QtCreator 2.1.0 and QtSDK 1.1 beta.Mar 01 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Infibeam Launches Pi2, EBook Reader With Wi-Fi Connectivity and Touchscreen .::. Size~: 45.58 KBMar 01 11:10
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DaemonFCit's a good thing that QT 4 is already pretty matureMar 01 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man alive! That pirate chick in Dragon Age 2 is cool. :DMar 01 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia Qt Quick final release! Qt 4.7.2, Qt Creator 2.1, Qt Mobility 1.1.1 AND Qt SDK 1.1 beta. http://ow.ly/45oFk http://ow.ly/45oFDMar 01 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 20 years of innovative Windows #malware - http://bit.ly/gZYU3O excellent review of woeful history #security #microsoftMar 01 11:12
DaemonFCNokia has already admitted that they're not going to be doing much more work on X.orgMar 01 11:12
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DaemonFCQT can't be far behindMar 01 11:12
gnufreexThey said that even before elopMar 01 11:13
gnufreexPLain was to move to Wayland, IIRCMar 01 11:13
DaemonFCWayland is probably a pipe dreamMar 01 11:13
DaemonFCfor any number of obvious reasonsMar 01 11:13
gnufreexWell, nokia only does pipe dreamingMar 01 11:14
gnufreex They hired MSFT mole, QEDMar 01 11:14
DaemonFCI think X is in it for the durationMar 01 11:14
gnufreexAnd why is wayland pipe dream?Mar 01 11:15
DaemonFCshort term concern, most people won't use the free video drivers, which are the only ones that work with WaylandMar 01 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana ITA aligns itself to all civilized countries and medieval laws on public wifi are now permanently abolished.Mar 01 11:15
DaemonFClong term concern, it's going to be carrying around an X server anyway to run a lot of thingsMar 01 11:15
gnufreexThat means free drivers are going to get better.Mar 01 11:15
gnufreexSo a good thingMar 01 11:16
gnufreexNeed makes things happenMar 01 11:16
DaemonFCI think that the effort involved in moving to Wayland is probably insurmountable just because some Red Hat employee is pissed that he has a little graphics tearing with XMar 01 11:16
DaemonFCUbuntu will freeload like they always do, they'll go with it if it gets popular and act like they thought the whole thing upMar 01 11:17
DaemonFCShuttleworth already laid the ground work for thatMar 01 11:17
DaemonFCthey've sent like 1 patch to X.org in 5 yearsMar 01 11:17
DaemonFChow much work on Wayland are they going to be doing?Mar 01 11:17
DaemonFCthey'll let Red Hat do all the work and ride the gravy train like they always doMar 01 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Monsanto Shifts All Liability For Damages Caused By Its GM Crops to Farmers, Now and For Perpetuity http://ur1.ca/3d4ev #gmo /cc @gmwatchMar 01 11:18
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DaemonFCyou know Canonical is infamous for letting Novell and red Hat do all the heavy liftingMar 01 11:19
DaemonFCthen put the Ubuntu logo on it after it's already doneMar 01 11:19
gnufreexThat's the Canonical wayMar 01 11:19
DaemonFCyeah, well, what have they created?Mar 01 11:19
gnufreexBut that didn't killed XMar 01 11:20
gnufreexWhy would it kill waylandMar 01 11:20
DaemonFCa few projects that only benefit them that have an unacceptable contributor license ala OracleMar 01 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ICANN: No government veto over controversial top-level domains - http://bit.ly/ieFafV I should hope notMar 01 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As an exercise of muscle-flexing (showing who's boss), the US parks war machines next to #Libya coastMar 01 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. "Just RUN AWAY!!!" #yogscast meets spidersMar 01 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros The new !Unity Dash http://i.imgur.com/SO4PP.jpg via @njpatelMar 01 11:20
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DaemonFCgnufreex, X existed long before Ubuntu came alongMar 01 11:21
DaemonFCthey're now talking about switching to a graphics server that only functions currently as a proof of conceptMar 01 11:21
DaemonFCnothing like putting the horse before the wagon has been builtMar 01 11:21
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 11:21
gnufreexYeah...Mar 01 11:21
DaemonFCthey risk nothing and benefit from the PR churn they can generate nowMar 01 11:22
DaemonFCif it never works, they keep shipping X and everyone forgets they ever talked about WaylandMar 01 11:22
DaemonFCif Wayland does come about, they steal it and take creditMar 01 11:22
DaemonFCthey win either wayMar 01 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody striking pix of ice-man Ötzi's reconstructed face and body - http://bit.ly/hDLp9I #archaeologyMar 01 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Best exports from India - IIT grads. Pretty cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=TBk4Z4q1fEg #fbMar 01 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Another #Novell (Microsoft-funded) employee uses a #Mono #Trojan called #Banshee to spoil Ubuntu's reputation http://goo.gl/qSWUI #ubuntuMar 01 11:23
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical, you're breaking my heart - mon journal - par Vincent .::. Size~: 75.62 KBMar 01 11:23
gnufreexThey like to take credit for other people's workMar 01 11:23
gnufreexJust look at linaroMar 01 11:24
DaemonFCWayland is vaporware until I see it running and doing something besides running glxgears on *some* *free* driversMar 01 11:24
gnufreexUbuntu fanbois think Linaro is funded by CanonicalMar 01 11:24
gnufreexLike 100% canonicalMar 01 11:24
gnufreexWhy? Because Canonical put out press releasesMar 01 11:24
gnufreexwith vague promotional languageMar 01 11:24
DaemonFCThe way I understand it, Linaro and Canonical are like Mandriva and TurboLinuxMar 01 11:24
DaemonFCthey share some binariesMar 01 11:25
gnufreexThey have nothing to do with each otherMar 01 11:25
gnufreexLinaro is non-profit consortium funded by ARM, IBM, TI, Freescale and few orher ARM cpu makersMar 01 11:25
DaemonFCMark SHuttleworth once called Red Hat proprietary because they trademarked Red Hat Enterprise Linux and certified their binariesMar 01 11:25
DaemonFCWhat does Canonical do with Ubuntu?Mar 01 11:26
DaemonFCanyone?Mar 01 11:26
gnufreexThey slap their trademarkMar 01 11:26
gnufreexEVERYWHEREMar 01 11:26
gnufreexSo they are oposite of RHMar 01 11:26
DaemonFCcertifying the binaries that you built and providing support for them does not a proprietary distribution makeMar 01 11:26
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 11:26
gnufreexRH tries to make its brand worth somethingMar 01 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The best fail compilation in existence - http://bit.ly/gg1hIT I defy you to watch this without chortling helplessly...Mar 01 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The best fail compilation in existence  .::. Size~: 89.72 KBMar 01 11:27
gnufreexCanonical slaps it on everyhingMar 01 11:27
DaemonFCyou remove the red hat trademarks and logos and rebuild it and do whatever you likeMar 01 11:27
DaemonFCRed Hat isn't going to support it, but why would they?Mar 01 11:27
DaemonFCit's free softwareMar 01 11:28
DaemonFCyou aren't paying them to support the binaries they madeMar 01 11:28
DaemonFCCanonical has their own bad clone of Red Hat NetworkMar 01 11:29
DaemonFCit's called LandscapeMar 01 11:29
DaemonFCand you have to subscribe to itMar 01 11:29
DaemonFCand only paying customers get the features it provides, like kspliceMar 01 11:29
DaemonFCit's not a separate distro for free users and paying customers, it's just a two-tiered support systemMar 01 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @cdaffara Very good post on fauxpensource: http://goo.gl/OqaLq "only the most laggard still dare to call OSS trialw..."Mar 01 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   No matter what you call it, a rat is still a rat… at  Talend blog .::. Size~: 60.35 KBMar 01 11:30
DaemonFCthey make it very hard to manage a mass roll out without paying upMar 01 11:30
DaemonFCso Ubuntu is doing all of those "bad things" Shuttleworth accused Red Hat of, which aren't bad things at all other than the hypocritical aspect of itMar 01 11:31
gnufreexI don't know what to think about Banshee screamers blasting CanonicalMar 01 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros Shut down will be hidden, Restart will be removed from the user menu of #GNOME Shell. http://goo.gl/Cyxy2Mar 01 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is the European Commission aware that the US has not ratified the Vienna Convention? - http://bit.ly/i705NU makes #ACTA completley 1-sidedMar 01 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @karsten Radio interview with #FSFE 's Bernhard Reiter on German Foreign Office relapsing into Windows http://ur1.ca/3ctfqMar 01 11:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Re: The logic behind remove "Restart" and hide "Power Off" in Usermenu. .::. Size~: 4.8 KBMar 01 11:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mistakes made, lessons learned, a principle clarified and upheld - http://bit.ly/fTh1K7 Mark #Shuttleworth 'fesses up on #Banshee #ubuntuMar 01 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner 50 pro IP Blogs at Source Justia Blawgsearch, but where are the unbiased blogs? http://ping.fm/5TgAJ <<echo chamber by exploitersMar 01 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth  » Blog Archive   » Mistakes made, lessons learned, a principle clarified and upheld .::. Size~: 26.31 KBMar 01 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyright Litigation Blog: Top 50 Intellectual Property Law Blogs of All Time - Source Justia Blawgsearch .::. Size~: 213.44 KBMar 01 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Violent suppression of protest at Toronto's G20 - CBC documentary - http://bit.ly/f0NpFr disgraceful, but sadly not unique #canadaMar 01 11:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Violent suppression of protest at Toronto's G20 - CBC documentary - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.48 KBMar 01 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "The Yogcave - It's like the Batcave only SHIT!!!!" :D #yogscastMar 01 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Healthcare for People, not Profit - http://bit.ly/eOI355 what, like a national health service, you mean? #nhsMar 01 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shareable: Healthcare for People, Not Profit .::. Size~: 50.78 KBMar 01 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera RE [...] piece about Kinnect. If a peripheral is vital to the future of MS then their problems are even worse than I thought.Mar 01 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Legislation 'To Protect Farmer IP' Would Make It A Felony To Photograph Farms - http://bit.ly/hhqYkU world is now officially #bonkersMar 01 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Biology Nobelist: Natural selection will destroy us http://ur1.ca/3d4i4 "exhaustion of natural resources, leading to energy crises..."Mar 01 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Software for Public Administrations: ePractice Workshop, Brussels - http://bit.ly/fH45sw why can't they hold it in #London?Mar 01 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Legislation 'To Protect Farmer IP' Would Make It A Felony To Photograph Farms | Techdirt .::. Size~: 75.27 KBMar 01 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Biology Nobelist: Natural selection will destroy us - environment - 28 February 2011 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 55.38 KBMar 01 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Software for Public Administrations: ePractice Workshop, Brussels 7 April 2011 .::. Size~: 30.03 KBMar 01 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FSFE at #ODF Plugfest and #PirateParty Conference http://ur1.ca/3ctqo #uk #freedomMar 01 11:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSFE at ODF Plugfest and Pirate Party Conference «  Sam's Blog .::. Size~: 26.45 KBMar 01 11:43
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65729060Mar 01 11:43
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 11:39:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I want to live to say: Good Riddance!!! I know the time is near.Mar 01 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @glynmoody Legislation '2 Protect Farmer IP' Would Make It Felony 2 Photograph Farms http://bit.ly/hhqYkU world is now officially bonkersMar 01 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Bruce Schneier: In cyberspace, the balance of power is on the side of the attacker http://ping.fm/W6MOmMar 01 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺@gbraad students of @yongyuan discussed mobile phones today;even iPhone users said that Android is inevitable (certainly their next choice)Mar 01 11:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Legislation 'To Protect Farmer IP' Would Make It A Felony To Photograph Farms | Techdirt .::. Size~: 75.27 KBMar 01 11:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: Anonymous vs HBGary .::. Size~: 82.17 KBMar 01 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Col Gaddafi's billionaire children | Telegraph http://is.gd/4KQiZs !wlMar 01 11:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dictators and their sons: Col Gaddafi's billionaire children  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 75.01 KBMar 01 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks Goes After The Saudi Royal Family http://ur1.ca/3d4j9 #ifwl #transparencyMar 01 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @dandart Waiting for IE [is] like waiting for death. !q !linuxMar 01 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @forteller Former Reagan admin: "If the attempt fails, he’ll be assassinated by CIA assassination team. It's common" http://bit.ly/egnaw0Mar 01 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] National Museum re-opened. Free entrance. I don't think the commoner cares about this. They need to work hard for their living. #ChinaMar 01 11:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Goes After The Saudi Royal Family .::. Size~: 172.8 KBMar 01 11:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                                 "If law fails, CIA will assassinate Assange" with subtitles | Universal Subtitles                .::. Size~: 112.14 KBMar 01 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How US choppers ended up in Colombian money-laundering hands http://ur1.ca/3d4ka #crime #ifwl #ColombiaMar 01 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: Mistakes made, lessons learned, a principle clarified and upheld http://goo.gl/CQ7vp !ubuntuMar 01 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] La success story d'OVH, l'hébergeur français de WikiLeaks http://is.gd/btRfT4 !wlMar 01 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana I am quite impressed by how quick !libreoffice met the funding target. [...]Mar 01 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If law fails, CIA will assassinate Assange" [video] http://ur1.ca/3d4kp well done for saying it like it is. #ciaMar 01 11:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Kenyan President's mistress linked to mercenaries | FP http://is.gd/gl19x9 !wlMar 01 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] EL Reg hates Assange. Starts article with: "Assange stinks and he dresses up like a girl" http://ur1.ca/3d4l3 #wikileaksMar 01 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Further evidence that RIM’s BlackBerry PlayBook will support #Android apps http://ur1.ca/3d4l6 #linuxMar 01 12:00
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Julian Assange™ applies to trademark himself • The Register .::. Size~: 24.23 KBMar 01 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Further evidence that RIM’s BlackBerry PlayBook will support Android apps | larsa | Androinica .::. Size~: 51.09 KBMar 01 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #WTF, a pause functionality for real-time messaging? has the world gone insane?! just keep up with the speed or die()Mar 01 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] L'ESPRESSO: Quando l'onda ci sommergerà | http://is.gd/CVWJDB !wlMar 01 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New communtiy member on our Contributor Spotlight: David Doria | http://opensource.com/Mar 01 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !Android 2.3.3 supports screen shot apps on non-rooted devices http://goo.gl/TSxcvMar 01 12:03
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android 2.3.3 supports screen shot apps on non-rooted devices | larsa | Androinica .::. Size~: 50.07 KBMar 01 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm @wikileaks2 My fear from the beginning was that American Government would find a way of permanently silencing #AssangeMar 01 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Daniel D-B pretends to have been a major #wikileaks insider (he wasn't) and now he does a lot of things to defame #assange and !wikileaksMar 01 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The CIA has not assassinated #assange (yet) but its neighbours character-assassinate him and his org so that journalists ignore substanceMar 01 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @BreakingNews: The EU says Moammar #Gadhafi no longer controls most of #Libya's oil and gas fieldsMar 01 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] L'ESPRESSO: WikiLeaks cables reveal deep frictions on Afghanistan in Italy | http://is.gd/xDYUOd !wlMar 01 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ORG files #DEAct Judicial Review intervention - http://bit.ly/fPmOYX "This is our 1st, but we don't want it to be the last" great moveMar 01 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Divided With No Clear Aim While the World Is Burning - l’Espresso .::. Size~: 41.33 KBMar 01 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Rights Group | ORG files Judicial Review intervention .::. Size~: 13.37 KBMar 01 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz ♺ @BreakingNews: The EU says Moammar #Gadhafi no longer controls most of #Libya's oil and gas fieldsMar 01 12:10
DaemonFC"When you turn the big global knob you actually only allow mmap_zero for wine and for vbetool.  But there are known exploit programs in the wild which masquerade as wine to get around this restriction.  Being an unconfined user that masquerading is actually quite simple.  You can see a long discussion of this (and how SELinux was in some ways worse than non-SELinux systems) "Mar 01 12:11
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527147Mar 01 12:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug 527147 – setroubleshoot:      SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/wine-preloader "mmap_zero" access on &lt;Unknown&gt;. .::. Size~: 62.79 KBMar 01 12:11
DaemonFCLinux malware masquerading as Wine?Mar 01 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New !wikileaks #cablegate docs from #kenya http://ur1.ca/3d4mz http://ur1.ca/3d4n0Mar 01 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable Viewer .::. Size~: 66.18 KBMar 01 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable Viewer .::. Size~: 67.67 KBMar 01 12:12
DaemonFCso basically even enabling mmap_zero for just Wine Preloader puts you at riskMar 01 12:12
DaemonFCand it's better to just global ignore the AVC denialsMar 01 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The New York Times and The Guardian stopped covering exclusive !wikileaks stuff not because of anything #wikileaks has done. #CorporatePressMar 01 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] L'ESPRESSO: La Russa contro Tremonti | http://is.gd/qCu4nY !wlMar 01 12:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La Russa contro Tremonti - l’Espresso .::. Size~: 43.54 KBMar 01 12:13
DaemonFCit would be nice if selinux troubleshooter was a bit more helpfulMar 01 12:14
DaemonFCinstead of just giving you some copypaste decisions to make SELinux stop bitchingMar 01 12:14
DaemonFCsome od which expose you to security riskMar 01 12:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, I like when a Windows program has a built in crash reporter and it triggers it in WineMar 01 12:15
DaemonFCI always send a crash report just to fuck with the guy that ends up trying to understand itMar 01 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Qaddafi's Private Jet Just Dropped Someone Off In Minsk http://ur1.ca/3d4nr "Qaddafi and his female bodyguards visit Minsk (2008)"Mar 01 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @alexhundert RT @ShababLibya: Liberated Libya claim streets clean no looting, proved they do not need foreign intervention, Tripoli nextMar 01 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qaddafi's Private Jet Just Dropped Someone Off In Minsk .::. Size~: 105.54 KBMar 01 12:17
DaemonFCAPE has never been a very Linux friendly music format, in fact, it's not very friendly even on WindowsMar 01 12:17
DaemonFCyet I still manage to find themMar 01 12:17
*DaemonFC isn't sure he'd sacrifice all hardware support and triple the cpu resources to decode the damned things to save 2% on the file sizeMar 01 12:18
DaemonFCWhy can't everyone use FLAC?Mar 01 12:18
MinceRbecause they're too stupidMar 01 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Euro court slaps down insurers over gender risks - http://bit.ly/fz3OEG surely by the same logic they can't discriminate on age, either...?Mar 01 12:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Euro court slaps down insurers over gender risks • The Register .::. Size~: 20.5 KBMar 01 12:18
MinceRat least with lossless compression you can recode it to FLAC and delete the original without any loss of dataMar 01 12:19
MinceRthen again, i think i can play APE with AudaciousMar 01 12:19
*DaemonFC drops foo_input_monkey.dll in his components folderMar 01 12:19
DaemonFCyeah, this shithead made an APE/CUE setMar 01 12:20
DaemonFCI can find Linux software that plays them, just nothing that splits it properlyMar 01 12:20
MinceRwhat if you convert it to flac or wav and then split it?Mar 01 12:20
MinceR(maybe you need to edit the cue to refer to the converted file)Mar 01 12:21
DaemonFCnow I'm in folder hierarchy hellMar 01 12:21
*DaemonFC head desksMar 01 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] crank it back to 11!Mar 01 12:22
DaemonFCWHO the FUCK did this!!!! GAH!!!Mar 01 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ... The Cure!Mar 01 12:23
DaemonFCoh, that was easyMar 01 12:24
DaemonFCthey made an APE/CUE and the CUE refers to a WAV file that didn't existMar 01 12:24
DaemonFCnow we're getting somewhereMar 01 12:24
DaemonFCthey better hope I never find themMar 01 12:24
DaemonFCbut I'm making progressMar 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm RT @p2pnet Anonymous versus Fox News’ Dan Gainor. 'Twitter Bitch-fight' http://ur1.ca/3d4p6Mar 01 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Securing a right doesn’t mean granting a #monopoly http://ur1.ca/3d4pd #copyrightMar 01 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Anonymous versus Fox News’ Dan Gainor .::. Size~: 71.05 KBMar 01 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Securing a right doesn’t mean granting a monopoly .::. Size~: 59.02 KBMar 01 12:25
DaemonFChttp://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/Mar 01 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: aoTuV .::. Size~: 21.21 KBMar 01 12:26
DaemonFCAoTuv merged libvorbis 1.3.2Mar 01 12:26
DaemonFChoorayMar 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Whitehall to launch son-of-NPfIT scheme within weeks - http://bit.ly/eQHKZW "No mention of the Cloud, open source or innovation"; doomedMar 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb when you [...] knowing you're going live to millions who think it's news & lie, you're part of the problemMar 01 12:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Whitehall to launch son-of-NPfIT scheme within weeks - The Tony Collins Blog .::. Size~: 72.66 KBMar 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu Live CD Will Let You Upgrade To Newer Ubuntu Versions [Ubuntu 11.04 Development] http://goo.gl/IlZfeMar 01 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh, boy, Blu Ray DRM sucks. Would MKV be a solution for that ??? And still get HD content ??? Any ideas ???Mar 01 12:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Live CD Will Let You Upgrade To Newer Ubuntu Versions [Ubuntu 11.04 Development] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 66.6 KBMar 01 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb I'd love to see a slogan on a hospital saying "Some of our patents don't die" commissioned by a board with an appreciatio ...Mar 01 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Congratulations to @royhugo on winning the !fsfe !Fellowship election! Thanks to @kboukouvalas for running, & all Fellows for yr support.Mar 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ghostler c.o.l.advocacy trolls are going hot and heavy with DRDOS FUD http://ur1.ca/3d4f5 contradicts truth in http://ur1.ca/3ddd #fudMar 01 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups    .::. Size~: 29.82 KBMar 01 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity 3.6 released: http://goo.gl/sDwUt !ubuntuMar 01 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3.6 "alpha-3" : Series 3.0 : Unity .::. Size~: 55.98 KBMar 01 12:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm going to try to build a Linux binaryMar 01 12:39
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 12:39
DaemonFCof the latest AotuvMar 01 12:39
DaemonFCthis guy likes posting win32 stuffMar 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnufreex Microsoft tries to duplicate XBox sucess with WP7: Brick more devices on purpose so that sheeple and fanbois buy more.Mar 01 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] With oxigen-gtk http://ur1.ca/38i5p at least Thunderbird and Firefox look like native KDE4 apps. LibreOffice still needs some work.Mar 01 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE Hugo: Oxygen + Gtk .::. Size~: 162.8 KBMar 01 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu Live CD Will Let You Upgrade To Newer Ubuntu Versions [Ubuntu 11.04 Development] http://bit.ly/ggHhDBMar 01 12:45
DaemonFClibvorbis has IRIX support Mar 01 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Live CD Will Let You Upgrade To Newer Ubuntu Versions [Ubuntu 11.04 Development] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.08 KBMar 01 12:45
DaemonFClolMar 01 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having some very exciting ideas concerning #Minecraft #Yogscast and the like. I hope I can pull this off...Mar 01 12:50
gnufreex IRIX still lives. Suck it BelluzzoMar 01 12:51
MinceRNetcraft confirms IRIX is deadMar 01 12:52
gnufreexYeah... Belluzzo won. Mar 01 12:53
gnufreex:-(Mar 01 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj No proof of P=NP after all (yet?) (Cartesian Product): http://bit.ly/e1nub8Mar 01 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @RedHatNews: Red Hat Announces Extended Lifecycle Support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 http://bit.ly/hbYzk7 #redhat #redhat4 #gnu #linuxMar 01 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No proof of P=NP after all (yet?) | cartesian product .::. Size~: 34.68 KBMar 01 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat News | Red Hat Announces Extended Lifecycle Support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 .::. Size~: 42.37 KBMar 01 12:53
DaemonFChmm, it builtMar 01 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @karsten: Congratulations to @royhugo on winning the fsfe Fellowship election! Thanks to @kboukouvalas for running, & all Fellows 4 suppt.Mar 01 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @kletskous Triest: Onderwijs levert zichzelf en studenten uit aan Apple - http://tinyurl.com/6fcyr2l #netwijs #nietwijs #ipadMar 01 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Oscars TV viewers down 10% http://tighturl.com/2za1 sign of the times? decreasing relevance of a stagnant industry?Mar 01 12:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  » Het bewijs voor de iPad in het onderwijs»Bijgespijkerd .::. Size~: 32.19 KBMar 01 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Oscar TV ratings drop by 10% in US .::. Size~: 68.41 KBMar 01 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @noyesk: #Android Likely to Crush #Nokia-Microsoft, Analyst Says - PCWorld http://t.co/C9uc1dG via @PCWorld #microsoftMar 01 13:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android Likely to Crush Nokia-Microsoft, Analyst Says - PCWorld .::. Size~: 77.8 KBMar 01 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BP refusing LOTS of oil spill claims, surprised? You shouldn't be #scumbags http://tighturl.com/2za2Mar 01 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  BP fund lawyer to refuse 100,000 Gulf spill disaster claims | Environment | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 95.77 KBMar 01 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] apparently this #BP lawyer is paid by BP and had to be told by a court to stop calling himself "independent" #ethicsMar 01 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] How to escape DRM in blu ray discs ? http://bit.ly/g1zwXqMar 01 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Planet Earth valued at $4,800 trillion http://ur1.ca/3d4us meaningless numbers...Mar 01 13:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five ideas for escaping the Blu-Ray blues  .::. Size~: 58.95 KBMar 01 13:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Planet Earth valued at $4,800 trillion - Venus is galactic Poundland | TechEye .::. Size~: 22.8 KBMar 01 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mgeist: CRIA challenges govt P2P study http://is.gd/89j5O9 Original study http://is.gd/rSpRce Author response http://is.gd/O1wMbUMar 01 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @agentsmith: How to escape #DRM in blu ray discs ? http://bit.ly/g1zwXq #blurayMar 01 13:07
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeMar 01 13:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Property Policy Directorate - The Impact of Music Downloads and P2P File-Sharing on the Purchase of Music: A Study for Industry Canada .::. Size~: 17.23 KBMar 01 13:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Falling off the edge of a flat world? | DIME .::. Size~: 38.67 KBMar 01 13:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five ideas for escaping the Blu-Ray blues  .::. Size~: 58.95 KBMar 01 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.S. continues Bush policy of opposing #ICC prosecutions http://ur1.ca/3d4vq #warcrimeMar 01 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how is is possible to "inadvertently copy substantial chunks" of others work? You have to hold some buttons and scroll beyond the screenMar 01 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. continues Bush policy of opposing ICC prosecutions - Libya - Salon.com .::. Size~: 134.91 KBMar 01 13:09
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DaemonFCschestowitz, This encoder is insanely fast :)Mar 01 13:12
*DaemonFC put -O3 -march=amdfam10 inMar 01 13:13
DaemonFCfor good measure :DMar 01 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] either that or he's tech savy enough to ctrl+a, c, then v and strip away the parts with names and copyrightsMar 01 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-01: Jono Bacon Defends Ubuntu: An Insider's Perspective — Datamation.com Interesting intervie... http://wmk.me/hPTYj8Mar 01 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @agentsmith: How to escape DRM in blu ray discs ? http://bit.ly/g1zwXq #microsoft #windows #audio #videoMar 01 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2011-03-01 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 50.78 KBMar 01 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five ideas for escaping the Blu-Ray blues  .::. Size~: 58.95 KBMar 01 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Limits on library e-books stir controversy http://ur1.ca/3d4wu #drm #copyright #cartel #libraryMar 01 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Implementing Open Standards in Open Source (Software Tech News) http://lwn.net/Articles/430273/rssMar 01 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         Limits on library e-books stir controversy  - CSMonitor.com      .::. Size~: 83.5 KBMar 01 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Implementing Open Standards in Open Source (Software Tech News) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.24 KBMar 01 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zaragoza: 'Spain's public sector major driver open source desktop' http://ur1.ca/3d4xx #spain #zaragozaMar 01 13:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KBMar 01 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Julian #Assange : At the Forefront of 21st Century Journalism http://ur1.ca/3d4z3 !wikileaksMar 01 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpEdNews - Article: Julian Assange: At the Forefront of 21st Century Journalism .::. Size~: 70.26 KBMar 01 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rather than see #Assange making public statements about #cableleaks he is now shown in TV only in context of *him* being accused.Mar 01 13:27
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65738372Mar 01 13:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Carlo Piana (carlopiana)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 13:12:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and what's the Moon worth? #justasking #bestbuy ;-)Mar 01 13:27
DaemonFCI never noticed, but Fedora is still building Galeon against newer Gecko enginesMar 01 13:28
DaemonFChehMar 01 13:28
DaemonFCit's been a while since I used thatMar 01 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Equitorial Guinea ruler's son 'ordered superyacht' http://ur1.ca/3d4ze "published by the WikiLeaks website"Mar 01 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @schestowitz: Equitorial #Guinea ruler's son 'orders superyacht' http://ur1.ca/3d4ze "published by #WikiLeaks"Mar 01 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: Equitorial Guinea ruler's son 'ordered superyacht' .::. Size~: 10.19 KBMar 01 13:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: Equitorial Guinea ruler's son 'ordered superyacht' .::. Size~: 10.19 KBMar 01 13:29
DaemonFCit was the GNOME browser before the users are idiots eraMar 01 13:29
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 13:29
DaemonFCif we put more than three buttons in this app, the user might not know what to doMar 01 13:29
DaemonFCyou know what else would be great? let's switch the OK and Cancel buttons for no reason so the user cancels everything out of habitMar 01 13:30
DaemonFCsure, we have ad blocking, it uses filterset.gMar 01 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@carlopiana the Moon is not worth much and shipping to your house exceeds its worth. Anyway, it was a #DailyFail #Murdoch 'article'.Mar 01 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What US cables reveal about France and the Ben Ali regime http://ur1.ca/3d4zu #france #cablegate #embarrassmentMar 01 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What US cables reveal about France and the Ben Ali regime | Mediapart .::. Size~: 27.21 KBMar 01 13:30
DaemonFCand why would you ever need to have a preference setting to open new windows as tabs?Mar 01 13:30
DaemonFCsillyMar 01 13:30
DaemonFCExtensions, sure you can make extensions, if you know CMar 01 13:32
DaemonFCjust like Internet Explorer!Mar 01 13:32
DaemonFC:DMar 01 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Released: For those Mandriva users that haven't dissented to Mageia Linux, the second alph... http://bit.ly/fJnhj8Mar 01 13:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Released .::. Size~: 16.57 KBMar 01 13:32
DaemonFCepiphany has extensions, all 7 or 8 of them that come with itMar 01 13:32
DaemonFCand if they don't do what you need, then go use KDE, you're a divaMar 01 13:33
DaemonFCI don't know if KDE got better or if GNOME got worse, but I'm leaning towards yesMar 01 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: #BP refusing LOTS of oil spill claims, surprised? You shouldn't be #scumbags http://tighturl.com/2za2Mar 01 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  BP fund lawyer to refuse 100,000 Gulf spill disaster claims | Environment | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 95.75 KBMar 01 13:35
DaemonFCthe software that comes with GNOME is so simple and watered down that it's beyond uselessMar 01 13:35
DaemonFCit's a blob of crap that takes up disk spaceMar 01 13:35
DaemonFCthe fact that Banshee is an improvement tells you how bad it's gottenMar 01 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OilRush Pre-Ordering Is Imminent; #Unigine Now Does Flash http://ur1.ca/3d50rMar 01 13:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] OilRush Pre-Ordering Is Imminent; Unigine Now Does Flash .::. Size~: 17.44 KBMar 01 13:37
DaemonFCfor a while GNOME had me in disbelief, a member of the cult, simple is better, until I realized that I was trying to work around the limits of their software and in doing so, was going through more effort than using "complicated" applicationsMar 01 13:37
DaemonFC"Among the most noticeable features are the simplification of the initial setup steps, both when running the image in Live mode, or before the installation, update to kernel 2.6.37.2, integration of the latest networkmanager-mdv plugin by Andrey Borzenkov, switch from scim to ibus for input framework, more indepth systemd integration into the system, and, of course, lots of packages updates all around."Mar 01 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @AnonQC: Labour's David Winnick just said Britain should stop selling arms to "murderous bastards". | lol, who else buy them, retard?Mar 01 13:38
DaemonFCany chance of it not throwing errors at you when you install a GTK+ app this time?Mar 01 13:39
DaemonFCMandriva's released versions have always been more like alphas to me until around 2009Mar 01 13:39
DaemonFCthings started shaping up a lotMar 01 13:39
DaemonFCI'm getting mixed vibes about 2011Mar 01 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter ...Could #freesw be on its way to UK gov? Not if the lobbyists get involved. Come on Glynn, you should know better by now :)Mar 01 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why I Think #Gnome 3 Is a Dead End http://ur1.ca/3d51a maybe he means "Mono"Mar 01 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Martin's Chronicles: Why I Think Gnome 3 Is a Dead End .::. Size~: 101.36 KBMar 01 13:40
DaemonFCschestowitz, GNOME 3 is a dead end because Unity and Gnome Shell both give you a netbook interface and expect it to scale to a real PCMar 01 13:41
DaemonFCI think it's just a square peg in the round hole situationMar 01 13:41
DaemonFCKDE has a netbook interface, but they don't stick desktop users with it and say "screw multitasking, who needs that?"Mar 01 13:42
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] A union guy, tea bagger, & CEO are @ table w/ 12 cookies. The CEO takes 11 & tells tea bagger: That union guy wants a part of your cookie.Mar 01 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @BBCWorld: Gaddafi: 'All my people love me' http://bbc.in/e2Wny4 - Um, is this guy for real?Mar 01 13:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Libya protests: Gaddafi says 'all my people love me' .::. Size~: 78.68 KBMar 01 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jamesvasile: #FreedomBox Foundation is hiring a community relations facilitator and public relations expert: http://ur1.ca/3cxbe << PR?!Mar 01 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identicaMar 01 13:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PitchIn .::. Size~: 4 KBMar 01 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People donate to make computers freer an the money goes to PR agents, not coders. Odd... [same with #Assange who hires lawyers+PR]Mar 01 13:48
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think Canonical is setting themselves up to failMar 01 13:49
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DaemonFCthey're going to launch with a GUI that doesn't scale to the needs of their users, that's if by some miracle it's actually stable by next month considering you can't even rearrange items on the app tray right now and all it does is crash most of the timeMar 01 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] okay... my computer is running real slow but my brain is running slower <need coffee> ... try again good morning !identiverse :DMar 01 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros #Androinica: #Android Fragmentation is so last year. Processor fragmentation is the real issue [OPINION] http://goo.gl/Gu4TCMar 01 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Labs Blog - Qt Creator 2.1.0 released - Today we release Qt Creator 2.1.0 as well as the Qt SDK 1... http://ow.ly/1byGYMMar 01 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android Fragmentation is so last year. Processor fragmentation is the real issue [OPINION] | andrew | Androinica .::. Size~: 63.4 KBMar 01 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qt Creator 2.1.0 released .::. Size~: 38.73 KBMar 01 13:50
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DaemonFCI think KDE is the way forward for anyone who uses a desktop and wants an interface built for the desktopMar 01 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Diversity is to "fragmentation" what "Defence" is to #war industries. #mindcontrol #semanticsMar 01 13:52
oiaohmDaemonFC: Really I agree on the KDE bit.   Yes KDE 4.0 was a nasty experience.Mar 01 13:52
oiaohmBut the complete time the KDE developers have had a complete overall plan.Mar 01 13:53
DaemonFCGNOME 3, made of lulzyMar 01 13:53
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 13:53
DaemonFChmmm, this guy acts like the sky is falling because Blu Ray existsMar 01 13:54
DaemonFCit's still perfectly possible to use single or dual layer DVDs for high definition moviesMar 01 13:54
DaemonFCyou can use WebM or XviD or somethingMar 01 13:55
DaemonFCwith WebM and like 9 gigabytes, surely you could fit 2-3 hours of really good quality movie on thereMar 01 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Torvalds being open & honest: "reading and writing email all day." http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2011/02/pearls-before-swine.htmlMar 01 13:57
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DaemonFCapparently Indiana University isn't mirroring alpha releases of MandrivaMar 01 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: L'ESPRESSO: WikiLeaks cables reveal deep frictions on Afghanistan in Italy | http://is.gd/xDYUOd http://bit.ly/igWFFrMar 01 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: L'ESPRESSO: La Russa contro Tremonti | http://is.gd/qCu4nY http://bit.ly/grhpKOMar 01 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Worker found guilty of plotting terror attack http://ur1.ca/3d54i rather #disturbing - & they still try to intercept this by groping peopleMar 01 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] This one goes out to the fence painters | http://bit.ly/fjF6dB #communityMar 01 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The eBook User’s Bill of Rights http://ur1.ca/3cxlt smells like @rms (but in a positive sense) #drm #ebookMar 01 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This one goes out to the fence painters | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.3 KBMar 01 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Breaking news... Defective By Design's campaign to tell Sony not to harass Hackers has hit a snag...Mar 01 14:08
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-experts-take-a-close-look-at-Lion-1199009.htmlMar 01 14:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security experts take a close look at Lion - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.62 KBMar 01 14:10
DaemonFC"Apple is apparently modernising its security policy."Mar 01 14:10
DaemonFCthey had one?Mar 01 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity 3.6.0-0ubuntu1 source package has been uploaded to Launchpad. Changelog: http://goo.gl/afurS !uMar 01 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: Captura de ecran disponibilă în Android 2.3.3, fără a mai fi nevoie de rootare! http://mbls.ro/fuT9UhMar 01 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... seems "Sony have removed this email account [howard.stringer@jp.sony.com]...Mar 01 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org Server 1.11 Release Planned For Mid-August: It seems as if the X.Org project has finally formed a habit of... http://bit.ly/dF5k1NMar 01 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...from their servers as a result of our emails." http://ur1.ca/3d1ji ... does anyone have an idea?Mar 01 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] i386 build of !unity 3.6.0-0ubuntu1 in ubuntu natty RELEASE is waiting for dependencies: http://goo.gl/euLsXMar 01 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @chipromania: Hard diskul inteligent: Tehnologia SMART determină automat riscul de defectare al hard diskurilor http://bit.ly/eQs3WDMar 01 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @laquadrature: EU Governments United Against the Knowledge Society? http://lqdn.fr/node/4223 #swpats #eu #freedom #linux #gnuMar 01 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb gotta love the moral high ground people who insist on their right to indoctrinate kids with their prejudices << or religionsMar 01 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Maybe we can http://www.defectivebydesign.org/stopsony by sending emails to info@jp.sony.com ? #Sony #FAILMar 01 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner You what? !WikiLeaks founder Julian #Assange applies to trademark his name http://ping.fm/aLP2RMar 01 14:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange applies to trademark his name | Media | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 90.48 KBMar 01 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I guess that #Sony's Howard #Stringer isn't such a saviour after all... It's bad business to declare war on your customers #FAILMar 01 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lamm Child abuse/murder thru "faith healing": Suffer the Little Children http://ur1.ca/3cykd #atheist #humanist #medicineMar 01 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joshuagay It's good to be back. Today is my first day (back) as an employee for the Free Software Foundation. #FSF.Mar 01 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] To my American friends, National Peanut Butter Lover's Day...Mar 01 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... and Happy National Fruit Compote Day... *and* National Pig Day. Oink. Busy day, guys, must have lots of big doings :D [via @beth4158 ]Mar 01 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner RS @lissnup: #Libya: Online newspaper being published out of #Benghazi: http://quryna.info/ hat tip @RRowleyTucson @acarvinMar 01 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Mascots Wallpaper http://ur1.ca/3d587 a little bland?Mar 01 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks, Internet in record Nobel Peace field | Reuters http://is.gd/pR6sfb !wlMar 01 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 70% of the Public Finds Piracy Socially Acceptable http://ur1.ca/3d58h not true. The speak about file sharing, not real #piracyMar 01 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When many people advocate sharing, #MAFIAA says laws should be amended to attack people; reality: law shd' be amended to serve people's willMar 01 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Are laws written for a powerful minority or powerless majority (over 90% of population)? #democracy #sanitycheckMar 01 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera RE #Libya.Former US ambassador to UN. "Yes it is more regime change but this time it is different" (paraphrasing)Mar 01 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: #Apple #iTunes accnts hacked - more rogue developers emerge - http://bit.ly/eSR4wy tell me again Y closed is safer than open?Mar 01 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb replace "cleric" with "preacher", and it hit's #FoxNews entire back catalogue of "news reports" http://tighturl.com/2z68Mar 01 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @bithooked Redhat makes millions off FOSS w/o rev share. But Canonical wants rev share on a few thousand, and you form a lynch mob. ! ...Mar 01 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺@thistleweb from the plastic cups story comments:"Republican Party's reason for existing is to inflict as much human suffering as possible"Mar 01 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who Did The Most For X.Org Server 1.10? Oracle? http://ur1.ca/3d59s They wish. Buying #PR ...Mar 01 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @bigbrovar Mark Shuttleworth apologizes for canonical's handling of the Banshee fiasco.. but this comment nails it IMHO !ubuntu http ...Mar 01 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @alexhundert: RT @democracynow: Libyans in "Liberated" Cities Balance Self-Gov While Supporting #Tripoli Resistance. http://ow.ly/44Nu7Mar 01 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Analysis: #DHS plans on scanning #DNA at checkpoints - http://bit.ly/hbaytL madness - & a good reason not to go to the USMar 01 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @glynmoody: #Apple #iTunes accnts hacked - more rogue developers emerge - http://bit.ly/eSR4wy tell me again Y close ...Mar 01 14:35
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65745585Mar 01 14:37
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 14:25:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Jeesus, it seems a lot of dead stuffed animals. Creepy.Mar 01 14:37
schestowitzThey are EOL.Mar 01 14:38
schestowitzcontext: "#Ubuntu Mascots Wallpaper http://ur1.ca/3d587 a little bland?"Mar 01 14:38
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nilsgeylen/status/42592084632412161Mar 01 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr@nilsgeylen: .@schestowitz Like the idea and it's a cute illustration; would not use it as a wall. Vaguely kitsch...Mar 01 14:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, I got a static Oggenc binary to build with AoTuv 6.02 applied Mar 01 14:38
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 14:38
*DaemonFC is happyMar 01 14:38
schestowitztrueMar 01 14:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: goodMar 01 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. @th3k4ty can come home now.... :DMar 01 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ludost RT @millette "We're not Google's customers; we're Google's product that they sell to their customers" http://ur1.ca/2unq2 (by ...Mar 01 14:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crypto-Gram: January 15, 2011 .::. Size~: 40.11 KBMar 01 14:39
DaemonFCwonder how to go about building VLC against itMar 01 14:39
DaemonFCthat would make for some really good DVD to WebM ripsMar 01 14:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/42586538642649088Mar 01 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: ♺ @satipera In an effort to increase arms sales farmland in the USA will no longer be ploughed but bombed from the air.Mar 01 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] seriously, guys. "don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence and ignorance". and #C - work on those. !ubuntuMar 01 14:40
DaemonFCNever attribute to malice what can adequately be ascribed to stupidityMar 01 14:41
DaemonFCI believe is the quoteMar 01 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Violent suppression of protest at Toronto's G20 - CBC documentary - http://bit.ly/f0NpFr disgraceful, but not unique #canadaMar 01 14:42
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DaemonFCthe Canadian police probably have nothing to fear from their citizensMar 01 14:42
DaemonFCthey've been raised from birth with the state sponsored message of guns are bad, unless they're OUR gunsMar 01 14:43
DaemonFCjust like most of EuropeMar 01 14:43
DaemonFCif guns are so bad, then why are the politicians taking them from the citizens and arming the police to the teeth?Mar 01 14:44
DaemonFCso they can go out and spread joy and happiness with them?Mar 01 14:44
DaemonFCdon't tell me no Canadian has ever wondered why they can't have a handgun but the police come out in riot gear with machine gunsMar 01 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to speaking at the Red Hat Forum in Manila (Shangrila Makati) on Wednesday morning & meeting Fedora Ambassadors later. #fbMar 01 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we all know patents are good for consumers right? http://tighturl.com/2zaf stock seized and bannedMar 01 14:45
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DaemonFCschestowitz, LG v Sony? What's this? A Jerry Springer slap fight involving patents?Mar 01 14:47
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: Looks like you could show #BillBlair vid of cops disemboweling protestors w/halberds & he wouldn't call it "excessive force"Mar 01 14:47
DaemonFCyou know both sides are scum but you can't stop laughing long enough to change the channel...Mar 01 14:47
oiaohmReally its China vs Japan the rematch.Mar 01 14:48
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65747429Mar 01 14:48
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 14:42:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh, they could have made then cute, Winnie the Pooh style. It would appeal to children...Mar 01 14:48
DaemonFCno Godzilla? I'm....disappointedMar 01 14:48
DaemonFCthose silly Asian people and their courts of lawMar 01 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rcweir: I suspect that today the 10 Commandments would be written by an ISO committee, copyrighted, and would require a licence.Mar 01 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb we all know patents are good for consumers right? http://tighturl.com/2zaf stock seized and bannedMar 01 14:49
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 14:49
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65747758Mar 01 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 14:45:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @rcweir and if anyone shared them, there would be threat of litigationMar 01 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz ♻ @rcweir I suspect that today the 10 Commandments would be written by an ISO committee, copyrighted, and require a licence.Mar 01 14:50
DaemonFChttp://nerdbynature.de/benchmarks/v40z/2010-02-11/bonnie.htmlMar 01 14:52
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DaemonFCbtrfs is beaten even by the original reiserfs, lolMar 01 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @KyleStubbins: @_the_mad_hatter don't worry, the Feds says it's safe... And they never lie. - Sometimes sarcasm isn't strong enough.Mar 01 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I can't stand it... getting white screen or the standalone post screens & broken character counter makes identica too disjointMar 01 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME Shell vs. Ubuntu Unity: Which desktop wins? http://ur1.ca/3d5ek #plasma is quite niceMar 01 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @NickKristof: If there's anything that symbolizes the bankruptcy of TV news today, it's the focus on Charlie Sheen.Mar 01 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] might be my pathetic lemon XP system, in which case I'm SOL til I migrate to !Ubuntu hopefully next week but i can't read dentsMar 01 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft 'skills' are so basic even kids can do it. http://ur1.ca/3d5ev #restart #reboot #reinstall #microsoft #101 #microdroneMar 01 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Nothing for it but back to novel. !Listening to Phil Collins yesterday worked a treat (interrogation scenes) so try again today !mynovelMar 01 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @RepHankJohnson: I am leading calls for an investigation of the "Chamberleaks" scandal http://fb.me/WA1F7tc7 #AnonymousMar 01 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ‘La Nación’ publicará cables de WikiLeaks sobre Costa Rica http://is.gd/QqrW5U !wlMar 01 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jono Bacon Defends Ubuntu: An Insider's Perspective http://ur1.ca/3d5fd author 'pulls a Dvorak' - insult, then retract, repeatMar 01 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Deceiving headline for article promoting proprietary software (and hardly for GNU/Linux): http://ur1.ca/3d5h7Mar 01 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Please, are these manual tricks still needed in today's Linux ? http://is.gd/VAvfRa #fedora #centos #ubuntu #debian #ssd #hdd #redhat #rhelMar 01 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #Frugalware 1.4 #Nexon http://ur1.ca/3cyl2 #gnu #linuxMar 01 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #freebyron #freebradleyMar 01 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Kristinn Hrafnsson (WikiLeaks journalist) wins Icelandic Journalist of the Year. Unprecedented three wins for Hrafnsson. !wlMar 01 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] London Stock Exchange Woes not Linux's Fault http://ur1.ca/3cyl2 by @sjvn - but it's not Linux, it's #ballnux - #Microsoft is paid for it!Mar 01 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... now back to work on Inconstant Moon (before i get *really* annoyed) #amwritingMar 01 15:04
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65748728Mar 01 15:04
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 14:56:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh, not that bad, she's a RHCE too. This I respect.Mar 01 15:04
schestowitzBut could she crack #HBGary ;-)?Mar 01 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Project News - February 28th, 2011 http://ur1.ca/3d5ir #gnu #linuxMar 01 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #GNOME Shell vs. Ubuntu Unity: Which desktop wins? http://ur1.ca/3d5ek #plasma is quite niceMar 01 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #policestate ♺ @p2pnet: Schoolgirl strip-searched by principal. 'Unauthorized medication' http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49561Mar 01 15:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME Shell vs. Ubuntu Unity: Which desktop wins? | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 129.23 KBMar 01 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The best of TED. 15 unmissable talks http://alturl.com/dtby3 !wlMar 01 15:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @igorsoares: Today is Fedora i18n/l10n Test Day. Join us: http://is.gd/OtC8MF #fedora #linux #gnu #romania #i18n #l10nMar 01 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Test Day:2011-03-01 L10n i18n Installation - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 36.96 KBMar 01 15:12
DaemonFC"Giving my Mom and Dad an incredibly configurable distribution for Linux enthusiasts and trying to make that easier is harder. So that's why I think the approach we've taken Ubuntu is a good one."Mar 01 15:13
DaemonFCMy mom isn't exactly tech savvy, but she's not stupidMar 01 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] CEO of US intelligence firm who plotted against WikiLeaks loses business career http://is.gd/zQakjt !wlMar 01 15:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: After dealing with Anonymous, HBGary Federal’s CEO resigns - Security .::. Size~: 34.55 KBMar 01 15:14
DaemonFCI think she'd be offended by UnityMar 01 15:14
oiaohmReally KDE is not targeting the 100 tech savvyMar 01 15:14
DaemonFCthere's simple and there's, you're an idiotMar 01 15:15
DaemonFCUbuntu is going with the latterMar 01 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: Recording industry will be at #C32com this morning asking to be shot, not even recognizing that #DRM is a bullet #C32Mar 01 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @NeelieKroesEU: Europe's highest court to rule on Google privacy battle in Spain http://bit.ly/ih3rwQ << also look into Windows spyingMar 01 15:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Europe's highest court to rule on Google privacy battle in Spain | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 94.05 KBMar 01 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Surprisingly the word "cocaine" is not included in Glen Campbell's Wikipedia article http://ur1.ca/3d5n9Mar 01 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOOOOOL! ♺ @methoddan: I love this cartoon, very funny for any programming geeks - http://is.gd/QPGwwlMar 01 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] London Stock Exchange Woes not Linux's Fault http://is.gd/rilNox #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #lse #london #stockMar 01 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] This one's going on the office door! ♺ @methoddan: I love this cartoon, very funny for any programming geeks - http://is.gd/QPGwwl #loMar 01 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Debian Project News - February 28th, 2011 http://ur1.ca/3d5ir #gnu #linuxMar 01 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: RT @guardiantech: Europe's highest court to rule on Google privacy battle in Spain http://bit.ly/ih3rwQMar 01 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Glen Campbell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 83.08 KBMar 01 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: this means i should be able to make the most beautiful flower pot in the worl... - My soup .::. Size~: 17.95 KBMar 01 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Stock Exchange Woes not Linux's Fault | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 133.11 KBMar 01 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: this means i should be able to make the most beautiful flower pot in the worl... - My soup .::. Size~: 17.95 KBMar 01 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     Debian Project News - February 28th, 2011  .::. Size~: 23.27 KBMar 01 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Europe's highest court to rule on Google privacy battle in Spain | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 94.04 KBMar 01 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A jornalista brasileira do WikiLeaks, Natalia Viana vence o Premio Trofeu Mulher Imprensa 2011 http://is.gd/4Cgzc7 !wlMar 01 15:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Portal IMPRENSA - Divulgadas as vencedoras da 7ª edição do Troféu Mulher IMPRENSA .::. Size~: 39.42 KBMar 01 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Despite joining #RedHat / #Fedora , AdamW's blog *still* bears the #mandriva logo as a favicon :-) http://www.happyassassin.net/Mar 01 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @guardiannews: New Zealand hit by further #earthquake http://gu.com/p/2ndpv/tfMar 01 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AdamW on Linux and more   .::. Size~: 73.75 KBMar 01 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  New Zealand hit by further earthquake | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 99.93 KBMar 01 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] So, in my quest to import Wordpress posts to Whird, I am undecided on a local Perl script or a server Php script. :/ #justformeorshareMar 01 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] http://pulczynski.soup.io/ This whole page is pretty awesome; thanks to @methoddan for pointing it outMar 01 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, time to pack up and make a move.Mar 01 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @VivirLatino: ICE Detainee Commits Suicide. Another life lost to US policy of Detain, Disappear, Deport or Make Dead http://ow.ly/45zn5Mar 01 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Mark_Antony Apparently the BSA have started whining about the new Cabinet Office policy on Open Standards... now there's a big surpriseMar 01 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BSA : is it a #Microsoft et al. private police force (to proxify the crackdown/bad PR) or a lobbying group in disguise? http://ur1.ca/3d5qnMar 01 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: CEO of US intelligence firm who plotted against WikiLeaks loses business career http://is.gd/zQakjt http://bit.ly/dM5lm4Mar 01 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: A jornalista brasileira do WikiLeaks, Natalia Viana vence o Premio Trofeu Mulher Imprensa 2011 http:/... http://bit.ly/fAf9IhMar 01 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fluxbox 1.3.1 on Fedora 14, 13 or 12 http://ur1.ca/3d5r2 works well on my very old laptop. #LinuxToTheRescueMar 01 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia KDE, hands down, is the winnnerMar 01 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Have you ever got any driver problem with GNU/Linux on Desktop ? http://tinyurl.com/4az8dm9 #blogMar 01 15:45
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DaemonFCthe biggest pain in the ass is always video driversMar 01 15:46
DaemonFCthe proprietary ones tend to be buggy and not up to date with the latest kernel or X, and the free ones are too slow to useMar 01 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Further adventures in #mobile #Linux http://ur1.ca/3d5sfMar 01 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240: (Dave promptly unplugs HAL's legal debate system...)Mar 01 15:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mjg59: Further adventures in mobile Linux .::. Size~: 26.78 KBMar 01 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @techdirt: Massachusetts Apparently The First State To Let You Officially Register As A Pirate Party Member http://dlvr.it/HyC3lMar 01 15:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux-based Anti-virus rescue CDs - and the alternatives! http://ur1.ca/3d5tm from one of the best #Linux sites aroundMar 01 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Next project-builder.org version will support the #Mageia distribution http://ur1.ca/3d5ue !Mageia #gnu #linuxMar 01 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Parties have to be approved in the USA? Far as I know they just pay a fee and stand in UK, can be banned in retrospect tho, cc @techdirtMar 01 15:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sun's Scott McNealy Recalls Triumphs, Near Misses -- Sun Microsystems -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 88.09 KBMar 01 15:52
DaemonFChttp://mjg59.livejournal.com/132477.htmlMar 01 15:52
DaemonFCthat's funnyMar 01 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Course there's no way small parties can win in the UK, but that's another thing entirely :)Mar 01 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @washingtonpost: UN: Exodus out of #Libya "is reaching crisis point" http://wapo.st/dO9YlWMar 01 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Shuttleworth: Mistakes made, lessons learned, a principle clarified and upheld http://lwn.net/Articles/430301/rssMar 01 15:55
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DaemonFCa fine example of Apple qualityMar 01 15:57
DaemonFCthe case is pretty and the software and firmware are spaghetti code full of bugs and security holesMar 01 15:57
DaemonFChow the hell does the EFI let the kernel call into boot services? That's not supposed to be possible.Mar 01 15:58
DaemonFCI'm guessing that could be used maliciouslyMar 01 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: Linux-based Anti-virus rescue CDs - and the alternatives! http://ur1.ca/3d5tm from one of the best #Linux sites aroundMar 01 15:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:        Linux-based Anti-virus rescue CDs - and the alternatives!      .::. Size~: 25.05 KBMar 01 15:59
DaemonFCso you work around it enough to boot up and you still have a security problem in whatever OS you're in, that Apple caused, and only Apple can fixMar 01 15:59
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DaemonFCthere was an EFI "upgrade" for my Intel system that I passed onMar 01 16:01
DaemonFCthere's no telling how many ways Ubuntu would choke and die on thatMar 01 16:01
DaemonFCFedora, maybe Mar 01 16:01
DaemonFCseems like every time I hit a BIOS related bug it only affects Ubuntu or it affects Ubuntu the worstMar 01 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: ♻ @Mark_Antony Apparently BSA started whining about new Cabinet Office policy on Open Standards, now there's a big surpriseMar 01 16:02
DaemonFCI can only imagine what would happen if I tried booting it on EFIMar 01 16:02
DaemonFCit probably just wouldn't happenMar 01 16:02
cubexyzI avoid EFIMar 01 16:03
DaemonFCand thanks to their stupid fucking utterly ridiculous, jono I'm talking to you, hi.......Mar 01 16:03
DaemonFCnaming convention, I'd have to get the disc labeled MACMar 01 16:03
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 16:03
DaemonFCapparently they figure anyone using a Mac is too stupid to know what an EFI is so they can't call it thatMar 01 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: Post nou pe blog: Ce măsuri de siguranță trebuie să iei atunci când folosești cloud computing http://bit.ly/gni0xvMar 01 16:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ce măsuri de siguranță trebuie să iei atunci când folosești cloud computing | Ovidiu's Box .::. Size~: 44.38 KBMar 01 16:04
DaemonFCwhich leaves it up to PC users with EFI to work out that "Mac" is Nazi speak for EFIMar 01 16:04
DaemonFCcubexyz, It's one reason I'm using AMD, of manyMar 01 16:04
DaemonFCit's so hard to tell which Intel boards are using EFI that I'm not going to gamble and loseMar 01 16:05
DaemonFCI wonder how many people burned the X86-64 PC disc and when it wouldn't boot up, had to google the error message to figure out that Ubuntu's stupid naming of discs made them waste a CD-RMar 01 16:06
cubexyzAcer uses Linpus, based on FedoraMar 01 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @admagazine: CeBIT Forum Open Source 2011 - Free Live Streaming: http://is.gd/tIh7Sn (via @linux_pro) #gnu #linux #free #softwareMar 01 16:07
cubexyzso you use Fedora 14 on a modern acer box and you're probably good to goMar 01 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Fluxbox 1.3.1 on Fedora 14, 13 or 12 http://ur1.ca/3d5r2 works well on my very old laptop. #LinuxToTheRescueMar 01 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] the !unity 3.6.0-0ubuntu1 package for ubuntu #natty has been successfully built: http://goo.gl/euLsXMar 01 16:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux-Magazin Online | Live Streaming CeBIT Forum Open Source 2011 .::. Size~: 6.38 KBMar 01 16:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fluxbox 1.3.1 on Fedora 14, 13 or 12 | Free Techie Blog .::. Size~: 81.94 KBMar 01 16:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: i386 build : 3.6.0-0ubuntu1 : “unity” package : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 14.54 KBMar 01 16:07
DaemonFCGRUB 2 supports EFI apparentlyMar 01 16:07
cubexyzI think Acer uses AMD quite a lotMar 01 16:07
DaemonFCbut you never know til you tryMar 01 16:07
DaemonFCjust like with BIOS, any board could have buggy firmwareMar 01 16:08
cubexyzjust ask what FSF uses, and get thatMar 01 16:08
cubexyzthey are pretty carefulMar 01 16:08
DaemonFConly EFI gives a bad manufacturer more rope to hang you withMar 01 16:08
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 16:08
cubexyzactually Acer uses bothMar 01 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @noyesk: Want help with your open source project? http://bit.ly/eSFj7x #opensourceMar 01 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxjournal: Who Contributes the Most to #LibreOffice? http://ht.ly/1bySygMar 01 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @silner @schestowitz @Mark_Antony Apparently BSA started whining about new Cabinet Office policy on Open Standards [big surprise]Mar 01 16:09
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DaemonFCThe BSA members have plenty of ISO standards, schestowitz Don't let a little thing like how they never actually implement any of them in their similarly named products bias you anyMar 01 16:09
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 16:09
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/zGlWk/Mar 01 16:10
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schestowitzDaemonFC: hehMar 01 16:10
DaemonFCOnly Microsoft could get a "standard" ratified, violate the hell ut of it by extending it with things that only work on Windows, and then get the ISO to ratify an amendment declaring this the "Transitional" version of the standardMar 01 16:10
DaemonFCeventually, at some indeterminate time in the future, we might support our own standardsMar 01 16:11
DaemonFCrightMar 01 16:11
DaemonFCif they were going to support their standard, it would have been supported in the first version of Office after the standard was ratifiedMar 01 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @elmyra Have I mentioned that Women's History Month starts today? http://ur1.ca/3d5yl #whmMar 01 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BSA: Open standards will 'increase e-Government costs' - http://bit.ly/dUuflt great slapdown of #BSA's kneejerk #FUD by @Mark_AntonyMar 01 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach: !Ubuntu Developer Week: Day 1 over, day 2 to come http://goo.gl/estMRMar 01 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Having #acupoftea and Identica is still being a pig. Nothing for it but back to work. #amwritingMar 01 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Women's History Month starts tomorrow - and we need it badly! - Milena Popova .::. Size~: 27.06 KBMar 01 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BSA: Open standards will 'increase e-Government costs' | Intellectual Property | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.16 KBMar 01 16:12
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DaemonFCit's clear they have no intention of using OOXML as anything more than a carrot on a string to dangle in front of incompetent morons making purchasing decisions in governmentMar 01 16:12
DaemonFCthe term OOXML Transitional downplays their product as a standard that has a few quirks in itMar 01 16:13
DaemonFCwhen it's a night and day differenceMar 01 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Guardian shunned at UK press awards: back-stabbing doesn't pay. !wlMar 01 16:14
DaemonFCused car salesman has a sweet deal for you, this little baby only got driven by a little old lady to church and the grocery storeMar 01 16:14
DaemonFCit just needs a little TLCMar 01 16:14
DaemonFCtransmission, lights, chassis Mar 01 16:14
DaemonFCB-)Mar 01 16:14
DaemonFC"Can you at least make one end stop smoking?"Mar 01 16:14
DaemonFCMaybe with a nicotine patch!Mar 01 16:14
DaemonFCyeah, a standard with a few quirksMar 01 16:15
DaemonFCdive on in, we'll fix it, sometime, maybeMar 01 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Real Cause of High Budget Deficits: Corporate Tax Dodgers - http://bit.ly/fbq0Ft love how this talks about quaint little "England"...Mar 01 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] OpenBenchmarking.org Launch Statistics: OpenBenchmarking.org and Phoronix Test Suite 3.0 "Iveland" were released... http://bit.ly/gqyiy7Mar 01 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Nelly Furtado To Donate $1 Million Received From Gadhafi. Hint: http://alturl.com/7tszm http://is.gd/pzevqv !wlMar 01 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: BSA: Open standards will 'increase e-Government costs' - http://bit.ly/dUuflt great slapdown of #BSA's kneejerk #FUD ...Mar 01 16:19
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nelly Furtado To Donate $1 Million Received From Gadhafi - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV   .::. Size~: 22.95 KBMar 01 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Linux-based Anti-virus rescue CDs - and the alternatives! http://ur1.ca/3d5tm from one of the best #Linux sites aroundMar 01 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody BSA: "Open standards will 'increase e-Government costs' http://bit.ly/dUuflt great slapdown of BSA's FUD by @Mark_AntonyMar 01 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Software Freedom Is Elementary, My Dear Watson. - http://bit.ly/gGN8Pl "#Watson relied on the publicly available software freedom codebase"Mar 01 16:20
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DaemonFCopen source GMA 500 driver appearsMar 01 16:22
DaemonFCafter what? 3 years?Mar 01 16:22
DaemonFCand it's in bad shapeMar 01 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 1/3/2011: Mandriva 2011 Second Alpha, Red Hat “Obfuscates” Linux Code http://ur1.ca/3d60q !techrightsMar 01 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 1/3/2011: Mandriva 2011 Second Alpha, Red Hat “Obfuscates” Linux Code http://ur1.ca/3d60q #techrightsMar 01 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] It's pretty sad that Facebook won't let you specify an arbitrarily defined place as your current home.Mar 01 16:22
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MinceRDaemonFC: no thanks to the powervr guysMar 01 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #Dradio Wissen #Interview with @reiter: Ohne !GNU /Linux im #AuswärtigenAmt http://ur1.ca/3d60f #bundesleaks !fsMar 01 16:23
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DaemonFCMinceR, When vesafb is preferable to the open source driver made especially for your hardware, it's time to consider different hardwareMar 01 16:24
DaemonFC:)Mar 01 16:24
MinceRindeedMar 01 16:25
MinceRbut is vesafb preferable to the gma500 driver?Mar 01 16:25
DaemonFCdependsMar 01 16:25
DaemonFCif you like a little faster + crashes a lot I guessMar 01 16:25
oiaohmDepends on what gma500 card you have.Mar 01 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks asks the old news media to lift its game http://alturl.com/wffa3 !wlMar 01 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @textfiles http://ur1.ca/3d62h F* THE CLOUD - OR THE CLOUD F* YOUMar 01 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Best practices for creating MMI Modality Components Note Published http://ow.ly/1byXoCMar 01 16:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RIP, Danger, 2002 - 2011: Microsoft axing service on May 31st, T-Mobile promises an 'easy transition' -- Engadget .::. Size~: 62.17 KBMar 01 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Undercover agent slips through #TSA naked body scanner multiple times with handgun http://ur1.ca/3d63f #securityTheatreMar 01 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open source expert takes on the hardest job at Microsoft - http://bit.ly/h9Xba5 so, about those software patents MS claims OSS infringes...Mar 01 16:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @schestowitz: Undercover agent slips through #TSA naked body scanner multiple times with handgun http://ur1.ca/3d63f #securityTheatreMar 01 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SCOTUS: Corporations Not People (at least with respect to one FOIA provision) - http://bit.ly/e6fuy2 that's a relief (v @EllnMllr)Mar 01 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Defective by Design"/FSF: Sony CEO blocks DBD, email Nicole Seligman, VP of Sony nicole.seligman@am.sony.com http://pastebin.com/JD0gZi4sMar 01 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: RT @Brian_Intel: Don't miss the #MeeGo applab at #GDC! Register now! http://bit.ly/h0BuJ8Mar 01 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Opened a nice bottle of Spätburgunder 2007 and now celebrating my anniversary with @th3k4ty.Mar 01 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SCOTUS: Corporations Not People (at least with respect to one FOIA provision) - Sunlight Foundation .::. Size~: 16.43 KBMar 01 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yesterday, we asked you to email Sony CEO, Howard  .::. Size~: 20.15 KBMar 01 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] VIA DRM Kernel Mode-Setting On The OLPC: While the group behind the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) child ended up w... http://bit.ly/gg0kEbMar 01 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh Cheers and many congratulations!!! :-))Mar 01 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I have just taken an important decision following @8ball's advice. It involves some shift in my professional life.Mar 01 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kill Copyright, Create Jobs - http://bit.ly/gupMka turning the #copyright maximalists' methodology against themselves #economicsMar 01 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CIA data shows massive Internet Explorer gain, and largest #Firefox loss ever - http://bit.ly/htZXR0 MS benefiting from piracy in #China?Mar 01 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear #lazyweb, any indications, guestimates on availability of #gingerbread for HTC #desire?Mar 01 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rabellino "This company (Microsoft) has changed" What nonsense. If MS could kill #FLOSS today it would.Mar 01 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] "BSA strongly supports Open Standards, if we agree what 'open' means" eg h.264 yes, webm no? ie a travesty! http://ur1.ca/3d6g6Mar 01 17:22
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BroensCould I run Netrunner as a server? If not, give me a hint of OS (Linux of cause)Mar 01 17:25
schestowitzHiMar 01 17:25
schestowitzIs Netrunner still being released?Mar 01 17:25
schestowitzBeen over a year since I heard of itMar 01 17:26
schestowitzAnd Ubuntu server doesn't have mono afaikMar 01 17:26
schestowitzunless you install the gnome parts on itMar 01 17:26
BroensI`m not a pro of Linux, but what else to useMar 01 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @dbart Facebook Linked To One In Five Divorces in the United States http://bit.ly/gqFWz8 -- Be careful out there in social media land.Mar 01 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to Phil Collins "In The AIr Tonight" a very hot song that would be in the Public Domain by now in any sane universe #amwritingMar 01 17:30
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Faitherschestowitz: welcome back ^^Mar 01 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Just had the best computer support call in ages with my mother. Very frustrating and funny at the same time...Mar 01 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid @laurelrusswurm The four food groups are cho, co, la and te.Mar 01 17:49
schestowitz:Faither!~stefan@krlh-4d0210f2.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #techrights :http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.golem.de/1103/81816.html&ei=hC9tTYn1Asnx4QazzanuBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.golem.de/1103/81816.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26ie%3DUTF-8%26prmd%3DivnsMar 01 17:50
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schestowitz:Faither!~stefan@krlh-4d0210f2.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #techrights :Oracle seems to like to bash FOSS/Libreoffice communityMar 01 17:50
schestowitzWell, they have to bash itMar 01 17:50
schestowitzIn their defence :-)Mar 01 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] argh... perhaps it's the universe forcing me to stop procrastinating, but this is just not working today!Mar 01 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Goodnight !identiverseMar 01 17:52
FaitherAlso they want to focus on the windows side of things...Mar 01 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240 I however find it terribly disturbing that they want to keep that proprietary: differential diagnoses are not trade secretsMar 01 18:04
schestowitzReally?Mar 01 18:04
schestowitzHow so?Mar 01 18:04
schestowitzI thought they wanted Fog Computing for itMar 01 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Kills the Company of Android’s Founder as Number of Dead Products Grows http://ur1.ca/3d6sy RIP... http://ur1.ca/3d6t7Mar 01 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Kills the Company of #Android ’s Founder as Number of Dead Products Grows http://ur1.ca/3d6sy RIP... http://ur1.ca/3d6t7 #sidekickMar 01 18:07
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65764919Mar 01 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 17:37:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No commentMar 01 18:08
schestowitzgnufreex: ^Mar 01 18:08
schestowitzRegarding the code we spoke aboutMar 01 18:08
gnufreexNothing new, since few people already asked various RH employees. schestowtizMar 01 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] List of Microsoft's Dead Divisions or Products updated. http://ur1.ca/yo9o still going at pace of one dead product/service every 2 weeks.Mar 01 18:09
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gnufreexEvery single says same: no commentMar 01 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bloody good thing I'm not a nurse then.Mar 01 18:12
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gnufreexschestowitz: They are forbiden to commentMar 01 18:13
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Faitherschestowitz: The guy interviewed in the article I posted (Bauer) said so. Also yes, they also want to put OOo on the fog/could or whateverMar 01 18:19
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FaitherThe development will be focused on the Windows version of OOoMar 01 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] So to sum up Shuttleworth: A bit of backpaddeling but the deal stays the same. Really?Mar 01 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And Shuttleworth says the Banshee people should keep the money and not give it to Gnome? WTF!?Mar 01 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Somehow I just had a flash of Shuttleworth with a face tattoo, saying: "Keep the money, use it to buy a funeral..." #wtfmoment #fireflyMar 01 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] hey @jonobacon, what are you thinking about this whole canonical 75% fee on music purchases in banshee thing? Haven't seen you dent about itMar 01 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh, and for those worried about the !banshee thing.....!rhythmbox *does* still exist ;DMar 01 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cast for #Taming announced. I'm not part of it. At least I have time for #ProjectPirate now. !BUSCMar 01 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Web Notifications First Draft Published http://ow.ly/1bz4OXMar 01 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Help translate Tor and torproject.org into other languages (especially Arabic and Farsi): https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/torproject/Mar 01 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Tuesday http://lwn.net/Articles/430310/rssMar 01 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Open source expert takes on the hardest job at Microsoft (Network World) http://lwn.net/Articles/430338/rssMar 01 18:40
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gnufreexWow mark shuttleworth is a troll http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/611#comment-345673Mar 01 18:44
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gnufreexTrolling commenters with "you use proprietary driver so you can't tell me about Freedom" line. Mar 01 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @dweinberger from DigPubLib mtg: #PLoS One now largest science journal in world, with 1K peer-reviewed articles/month #dpla >>fabMar 01 18:48
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twitterI'd like to prove that the Gates Foundation blocks free software use in their grants.Mar 01 18:54
twitterI know from a conversation that I had with a librarian that no free software could be used on donated computers, the library had to use the software that was given to them, but I'd like to get more solid documentation to prove this to others.Mar 01 18:56
twitterhas anyone seen this in print?Mar 01 18:56
twitterI know it will be hard to find because everything Microsoft does, it does under NDA.Mar 01 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell’s (Microsoft-Funded) Anti-Ubuntu Propaganda http://ur1.ca/3d73b #novell #ubuntu #canonical #swpats #microsoftMar 01 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Novell’s (Microsoft-Funded) Anti-Ubuntu Propaganda http://ur1.ca/3d73b !novell !ubuntu !canonical #swpats !microsoftMar 01 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @boycottnovell that is laughably inaccurateMar 01 18:57
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twitterSo we need leakers.  Can Techrights put out a call for documentation?Mar 01 18:57
gnufreexI am thinking why Banshee made such a fuss. They maybe expect that Canonical will drop Banshee in some of next releases, so they want to make this fuss to later imply that Canonical is droping them because they want all the money. Mar 01 18:57
twitterAgree.Mar 01 18:58
gnufreexMaybe they just need the money to buy Advisory Board position in GNOMEMar 01 18:58
gnufreexsince Wrongie got fired from ACCESSMar 01 18:58
twitterI need the money to feed my three kids....Mar 01 18:58
gnufreexThey need money to feed the trollMar 01 18:58
gnufreex*pay the trollMar 01 18:58
twitterNovell's Microsoft dependents need a new host.Mar 01 18:59
Faitherg2 run byeMar 01 18:59
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gnufreexThey want to stack GNOME Advisory Board so they can advocate split from GNU.Mar 01 19:00
gnufreexAnd then they have easier road to stuff GNOME with MONOMar 01 19:00
twitterI have a feeling things will go the other way as Novell fires mono developers. Mar 01 19:01
twitterMicrosoft will have to pay them directly. Mar 01 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @christianabryant It's difficult to separate #freedom from #humanitarian goals when building !gnu !linux systems for, one extends the ...Mar 01 19:02
gnufreexThey wont do thatMar 01 19:02
twitteror set up some new shell.  Canonical is not going to fall for it.Mar 01 19:02
gnufreexThey will pay them throug off shore accounts Mar 01 19:03
gnufreexmaybeMar 01 19:03
gnufreexBut that would make hard to sue them later.Mar 01 19:03
gnufreexBut maybe they wont sue them, just the users.Mar 01 19:03
twitterMicrosoft is having a hard enough time keeping their own developers.  I wonder what those think about Microsoft payments to Novell as their jobs are put offshore.Mar 01 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Neighbors helping @NeighborGoods | http://bit.ly/hpypmF #sharing #communityMar 01 19:04
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gnufreexschestowitz: pingMar 01 19:04
schestowitzHeyMar 01 19:04
schestowitzI'm writing about RHTMar 01 19:04
gnufreexIs that "canonical brough my heard" dude really a MSFT employee?Mar 01 19:04
gnufreexbroke-*Mar 01 19:04
schestowitzheard?Mar 01 19:05
gnufreexI think you said it?Mar 01 19:05
schestowitz"broke my heard"?Mar 01 19:05
schestowitzhurd?Mar 01 19:05
gnufreexheartMar 01 19:05
schestowitzOhMar 01 19:05
schestowitzHe's from NovellMar 01 19:05
schestowitzUntzMar 01 19:05
schestowitzVincentMar 01 19:05
gnufreexAhMar 01 19:06
schestowitzSame thingMar 01 19:06
schestowitzMicrosot pays Novell pays molesMar 01 19:06
schestowitzde Icaza et al.Mar 01 19:06
schestowitzTheir bosses (PHBs) don't give a ***** about FOSSMar 01 19:06
schestowitzIt's top-downMar 01 19:06
twitternow I see, thanks http://techrights.org/2011/03/01/banshee-vs-canonical/Mar 01 19:06
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schestowitzAs long as Ronn bends over to SweatyB, they need to avoid doing some thingsMar 01 19:07
twitterSo, how about the call for documentation?  Mar 01 19:08
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/65769254Mar 01 19:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 18:17:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz http://image.bayimg.com/kaedaaadd.jpg #installfestlikeit's1996 ;PMar 01 19:08
schestowitzneatMar 01 19:08
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/42648579239714816 LOLMar 01 19:08
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Is @schestowitz a gatekeeper? #techrights #tcot #nwoMar 01 19:08
twitterWow, bayimg is back?Mar 01 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk neatMar 01 19:08
schestowitz[18:21] <Faither> The development will be focused on the Windows version of OOoMar 01 19:09
schestowitzNot good...Mar 01 19:09
schestowitz[18:44] <gnufreex> Trolling commenters with "you use proprietary driver so you can't tell me about Freedom" line. Mar 01 19:10
schestowitzMark cannot troll commenters in HIS blogMar 01 19:10
schestowitz[18:57] <twitter> So we need leakers.  Can Techrights put out a call for documentation?Mar 01 19:10
schestowitzBut why?Mar 01 19:10
schestowitzWe do have evidenceMar 01 19:10
schestowitzThey give software 'free' but it requires WindowsMar 01 19:11
schestowitzSo there appears a prerequisiteMar 01 19:11
twitterSure, but I was under the impression that they also wrote in an exclusion clause. Mar 01 19:11
schestowitzI gave several examples from the newsMar 01 19:11
schestowitzit's like giving a poor man tiresMar 01 19:11
schestowitzTo buy a car him/herselfMar 01 19:11
gnufreexWho is focusing on Windows?Mar 01 19:11
twitterAs in, "you may only use the software we give you on this hardware"Mar 01 19:11
twitterRichard Stallman would like the documentation.  Do you have links I can give him?Mar 01 19:12
schestowitz[19:11] <gnufreex> Who is focusing on Windows?Mar 01 19:12
schestowitzSCOracle OfficeMar 01 19:12
gnufreexAha...Mar 01 19:12
MinceR200755 < schestowitz> Mark cannot troll commenters in HIS blogMar 01 19:12
MinceRi think it's possibleMar 01 19:12
schestowitzhttp://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.golem.de/1103/81816.html&ei=hC9tTYn1Asnx4QazzanuBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.golem.de/1103/81816.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26ie%3DUTF-8%26prmd%3DivnsMar 01 19:12
MinceRa blog post itself can be trollingMar 01 19:13
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schestowitzMinceR: can he disrupt his own site?Mar 01 19:13
gnufreexBut Oracle don't have choice anyways. OpenOffice is banned from GNU/Linux, courtesy of Novel LibreOFficeMar 01 19:13
schestowitzMinceR: not reallyMar 01 19:13
gnufreexThey made it conflict on purposeMar 01 19:13
schestowitzOnly if it's going into a planeyMar 01 19:13
schestowitz*planetMar 01 19:13
MinceRschestowitz: no, but he can disrupt society or a communityMar 01 19:13
MinceRschestowitz: he might cause conflictMar 01 19:13
schestowitzwhich is like a cockfight of opinions in one pageMar 01 19:13
schestowitztwitter: not offhandMar 01 19:14
twitterhe can also ask leading questions to expose the ignorance of others, which is the classic definition of trolling.Mar 01 19:14
schestowitzIt's in some of the pages on:Mar 01 19:14
schestowitz!google techrights schools windows gatesMar 01 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueMar 01 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bill Gates Buys ABC (News/TV), Schools | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/10/12/consensual-monopolisation-with-abc/Mar 01 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - US Education Steps Aside for Bill | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/06/07/gates-family-us-franchises/Mar 01 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Gates Foundation Accused of “Steer[ing] State and National Policy ... | http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/gates-monopolizes-schools/Mar 01 19:14
MinceRschestowitz: blog posts can be replies to other sites, and can be replied to elsewhereMar 01 19:14
MinceRtrackbacks and such may even connect themMar 01 19:14
twitterI found most of those, thanks, but I'd like to solicit harder evidence.Mar 01 19:14
schestowitzThere's one from the lady who was bribed by MicrosoftMar 01 19:15
schestowitzWith a Vista 7 prebeta laptopMar 01 19:15
twitterI'll be looking for the same myself, locally, but a call to the community would be helpful. Mar 01 19:15
schestowitzOK, goodMar 01 19:15
gnufreexschestowitz: He saw person criticizing him using "GNU/Linux" and talking about freedom, so he chose to troll him about proprietary driver that he saw he is using. Which has nothing to do with topic. It is trolling if it was not on his blog.Mar 01 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Giving up on rooting Desire. Unrevoked stuck at "pushing recovery", 10 mins & counting. Cant wait all evening.Mar 01 19:15
schestowitzgnufreex: so he shoots himself in the footMar 01 19:15
twitterIt's hard for Shuttleworth to avoid shooting himself in the foot, given the Microsoft press gang bang that's on him.  Mar 01 19:16
twitterWe all know that kind of attention can make a person cranky.  Mar 01 19:17
gnufreexHe should just dump banshee and Mono altogether.Mar 01 19:17
twitterAgreed. Mar 01 19:17
MinceRand bìngMar 01 19:17
gnufreexI am sure Rytmbox guys would not complain if he takes 100%Mar 01 19:17
twitterLet's watch the facts develop.  ... Bing?Mar 01 19:17
twitterI thought they dumped the Bing idea.Mar 01 19:17
MinceRthey were trying to push it, not sure how far it wentMar 01 19:18
twitterfar enough to do damage, it seems.Mar 01 19:18
MinceRand they should the idiotic GUI ideas, including indicator applets and client-side decorationsMar 01 19:18
twitterI imagine Microsoft partners are asking for GUIs.  Mar 01 19:19
twitterSomething to hide the gnu/linux ness of Ubuntu. Mar 01 19:19
twitterand a time sink.Mar 01 19:19
gnufreexI think dumping mono and puting it inot restricted would be good start. Mar 01 19:20
twittersort of like asking the One Laptop Per Child people to make their laptop work with Windows XP.  I'll be they shipped all of zero of those.Mar 01 19:20
twitterthe best way to get mono into restricted is to get Debian to put it in non freeMar 01 19:21
MinceRdoes canonical listen to debian?Mar 01 19:21
twitterof course, Ubuntu is a flavor of Debian.Mar 01 19:21
gnufreextwitter: They don't Lfollow debianMar 01 19:21
gnufreexRead "Slipery slopes" postMar 01 19:21
twitterThat's like saying Debian does not follow KDE.Mar 01 19:21
gnufreex!google ubuntu slipery slopesMar 01 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Slippery Slope of an App Store, and Why Windows Should Never ... | http://siliconangle.com/blog/2011/01/07/the-slippery-slope-of-an-app-store-and-why-windows-should-never-adopt-it/Mar 01 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Slippery Slope of an App Store, and Why Windows Should Never ... | http://www.winextra.com/archives/the-slippery-slope-of-an-app-store-and-why-windows-should-never-adopt-it/Mar 01 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Of hall monitors and slippery slopes [LWN.net] | http://lwn.net/Articles/387013/Mar 01 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Proprietary forum software - Ubuntu Forums | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D722784Mar 01 19:22
gnufreexNot Mar 01 19:22
gnufreexwaitMar 01 19:22
gnufreexhttp://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/Mar 01 19:22
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gnufreexBasically they went south as they drifted away from Debian.Mar 01 19:23
gnufreexAnd that is from Ubuntu developerMar 01 19:23
gnufreexIn 2006Mar 01 19:23
gnufreexIt got worse later.Mar 01 19:23
gnufreexThis qoute is very telling: Mar 01 19:24
gnufreex"we have a policy of not doing our own software development, but only packaging what others have developed, so the only way for us to get ahead was to package something that others wouldn’t."Mar 01 19:24
gnufreexWhich is very telling.Mar 01 19:24
MinceR:>Mar 01 19:24
gnufreexthat is reason why they ship MonoMar 01 19:25
twitterI'm reading, but as far as I have read Ubuntu is still 80% debian. Mar 01 19:25
gnufreexNobody else will.Mar 01 19:25
gnufreexExcept SUSEMar 01 19:25
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gnufreexYes, they leverage work of debian, but they add proprietary stuff Mar 01 19:26
gnufreexSo Debian putting Mono in non-free would have no impact on ubunutMar 01 19:26
gnufreexThey would be even more ready to ship itMar 01 19:26
gnufreexSince it would be diferentiation Mar 01 19:26
gnufreexDebian don't have it.Mar 01 19:27
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schestowitzand then they put neighborlee in it!!Mar 01 19:27
schestowitzAnd it crashed !!Mar 01 19:27
twitterWell, what's good for debian is good for debian.  if ubuntu does not follow, that's their problem.Mar 01 19:27
neighborleewth LOLMar 01 19:27
neighborlee:)Mar 01 19:28
schestowitzWe were just talking about UbuntuMar 01 19:28
neighborleeAH , that ;)Mar 01 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Learn how to get your Creative Commons project funded: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/26669 #p2pu #OERMar 01 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Red Hat is Not Transparent Enough http://ur1.ca/3d79i #centos !gnu !linux #oracleMar 01 19:32
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65772985Mar 01 19:41
schestowitzNo detailsMar 01 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Because WikiLeaks has some Jewish staff and enjoys wide spread Jewish support, its staff have frequently been (cont) http://tl.gd/92hou2 !wlMar 01 19:42
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gnufreexI just had a realization... in Serbia, term hacker is still used properly. It doesn't mean security breaker. It means computer geek. Mar 01 19:42
gnufreexIt is still 80s hereMar 01 19:42
neighborleeI used to think of the former..but nowadays its way more sexy and appropriate for the latre :)Mar 01 19:42
neighborleewhen its done for the right reasons that is ;))Mar 01 19:42
gnufreexIn fact, non computer folks call all computer folks "hackers" here.Mar 01 19:42
gnufreexSo it is misused.Mar 01 19:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Bruce Cowan (bruce89)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 18:54:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @boycottnovell that is laughably inaccurateMar 01 19:42
neighborleeweird,,where are you ;))Mar 01 19:43
MinceR"@bruce86 that is laughably uninformative"Mar 01 19:43
MinceR:>Mar 01 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Because WikiLeaks has some Jewish staff and enjoys wide spread Jewish support, its staff have frequently been (cont) http://tl.gd/92hpnj !wlMar 01 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Because WikiLeaks has some Jewish staff and enjoys wide spread Jewish support, its staff have frequently been (cont) http ...Mar 01 19:44
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txdvo noMar 01 19:45
txdvjews in the wikileas staffMar 01 19:45
txdvbest tweet everMar 01 19:48
txdvA Washington intelligence firm wants to destroy Wikileaks by spreading false information - that some members of the wikileaks staff are jewishMar 01 19:49
txdvthat sounds very racist to me, and that comming from our number one democracy loving nation USA ^^Mar 01 19:49
MinceRlolMar 01 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] one full day of sorting out paperwork. should do this more often, before the entire desk is filled. sigh.Mar 01 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 146 dents!Mar 01 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An Early Look at GNOME 3.0 (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/430357/rssMar 01 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #RedHat is Not Transparent Enough http://ur1.ca/3d79i #rhel #patents #swpats #gnu #linux #kernelMar 01 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetmozilla: #Mozilla Developer DevNews: #Thunderbird 3.1.8 Update is Now Available http://mzl.la/fnOenTMar 01 19:54
txdvman those gnome3 live cds were total rubishMar 01 19:54
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neighborleetxdv, I gave up on gnome long ago, when they forced me into dumbland, unlike kde which gives you real options when you need itMar 01 19:54
txdvim using the awesome window managerMar 01 19:55
txdvbecause kde wasnt awesome enough for meMar 01 19:55
neighborleetxdv, not to mention their loyalty to tomboyMar 01 19:55
neighborleehm I m not aware of that oneMar 01 19:55
txdvbasically you are managing all you windows with your keyboardMar 01 19:56
txdvoi yeah tomboyMar 01 19:56
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txdvits using mono ... uuuuMar 01 19:56
txdvand probably is written by jewsMar 01 19:56
schestowitzWith Soros funding /sarcasmMar 01 19:57
twitterbanks and insurance too.... Mar 01 19:57
schestowitzHere's what it says:Mar 01 19:57
schestowitzhttp://www.twitlonger.com/show/92hou2Mar 01 19:57
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schestowitz"Because WikiLeaks has some Jewish staff and enjoys wide spread Jewish support, its staff have frequently been smeared by its opponents, political or competitive, as being agents of the Mossad or of George Soros. These smears are completely false."Mar 01 19:58
neighborlee2txdv, well unless tomboy no longer is mono based ;)Mar 01 19:58
twitterMossad wrote mono?Mar 01 19:58
txdvblaming the jews is so 50 years agoMar 01 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK Drama: #MSBBC Blames #Google — Not #Microsoft — for London Stock Exchange Site Malware, Sabotage Still Suspected http://ur1.ca/3d7e5 #lseMar 01 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] UK Drama: #BBC Blames Google — Not Microsoft — for #London Stock Exchange Site Malware, Sabotage Still Suspected http://ur1.ca/3d7e5 #linuxMar 01 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks Cables on Raila And Uhuru (video) http://alturl.com/73ifd !wlMar 01 19:59
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txdvcant they find other small ethnic groups to blameMar 01 19:59
schestowitzgnufreex: https://identi.ca/notice/65764919  me: "@fontana I heard a similar response elsewhere (we discussed this in IRC)"Mar 01 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 17:37:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No commentMar 01 19:59
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schestowitztxdv: it's a religion, not an ethnic groupMar 01 19:59
schestowitzLike Mono... a religion :-)Mar 01 20:00
schestowitzThe God is a monkey with a smirkMar 01 20:00
schestowitzWhich other religions believe that man was created by monkeys? (or one giant money) :-)Mar 01 20:00
schestowitzMono wants MOAR believers, so it found Ubuntu... which is Swahili meaning "Mono for others"Mar 01 20:01
neighborlee2hehMar 01 20:02
twitterthis seems to happen when banks crash and the rich and powerful need a scapegoat ->  txdv: blaming the jews is so 50 years agoMar 01 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Novell’s (Microsoft-Funded) Anti-Ubuntu Propaganda http://ur1.ca/3d73b #novell #ubuntu #canonical #swpats #microsoftMar 01 20:02
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twitterPerhaps we really are in Great Depression 2.0.  ick.Mar 01 20:02
neighborlee2yeah see thats another thing..religion gets blamed for doing BAD things,,so of course athiests point to that as their scapegoat for why god does not exist..its SO 50s..:)Mar 01 20:03
schestowitzThere is no need for scapegoat... the banks are the reasonMar 01 20:03
schestowitzThe problem is trying to correlate one thing with anotherMar 01 20:03
schestowitzLike occupation with DNS/ethnicityMar 01 20:03
schestowitz*DNAMar 01 20:03
schestowitzOr DNS :-)Mar 01 20:03
schestowitzLike geography, i guessMar 01 20:03
twitterbanks need a scape goat, so they push out Aaron Barr, Wikileaks, etc. Mar 01 20:03
gnufreexschestowitz: It is useless to push Fontana. He simply can't say anything. This post explains the the motive nicely http://lwn.net/Articles/430238/  Mar 01 20:03
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gnufreexObstacle is freeloading on RHMar 01 20:04
schestowitzAlthough DNS is not slices so nicely into block chunks that can be viewed as a mapMar 01 20:04
gnufreexThey try to bleed them dry and buy them for peanutsMar 01 20:04
gnufreexlike they did with SUNMar 01 20:04
schestowitz[20:03] <twitter> banks need a scape goat, so they push out Aaron Barr, Wikileaks, etc. Mar 01 20:04
schestowitzHow so?Mar 01 20:04
gnufreexand BEAMar 01 20:04
schestowitzWikileaks exposes the banksMar 01 20:04
schestowitzSo it can't be their scapegoatMar 01 20:04
gnufreexand Sleeppycat softwareMar 01 20:04
schestowitzBarr and HBGary only made it *worse* for the banksMar 01 20:04
schestowitzShowing just what Assange said on December 17th -- that big banks were behind the attacks on him & his orgMar 01 20:05
twitterright, but the general level of hatred in society is bad news.  The rich and powerful will turn it onto others.Mar 01 20:05
twitterBarr is surely a scape goat.Mar 01 20:05
schestowitzYes, of courseMar 01 20:05
schestowitzTheir plan is to ceate inner warsMar 01 20:06
schestowitzPeople to distrust their neighboursMar 01 20:06
schestowitzAnd forget the real class warsMar 01 20:06
schestowitzLook how Koch has people fighting over the trivialMar 01 20:06
twitterhe takes the fall for HBGary, level 2 goat, to cover for US Chamber of Commerce and BoA, level 3 goat.Mar 01 20:06
schestowitzBunch of people who can't do maths insiste that are 'in the informed' that the global is not warming up due to human activityMar 01 20:06
schestowitzAnd then scientists get death threatsMar 01 20:06
twitterKoch, they got burnt and deserve it.Mar 01 20:07
schestowitzWhile Koch Ind. is busy making lots of moneyMar 01 20:07
schestowitzAnd fameMar 01 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Where do great ideas come from? Bill Taylor explains on tomorrow's webcast | sign-up at http://bit.ly/fY27qp #oywfMar 01 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 2006 State agents and hirelings raided Kenya's Standard newspaper but... http://is.gd/zgF6u7 !wlMar 01 20:07
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twitterWatch the Wisconsin story and Daily Beast.  Mar 01 20:07
twitterThere will be fall out for the Koch crooks.Mar 01 20:07
schestowitzWhy are they not in jail yet?Mar 01 20:07
schestowitzToo big to jailMar 01 20:07
schestowitzGates tooMar 01 20:07
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schestowitzShould have been put in jailMar 01 20:07
schestowitzAges agoMar 01 20:07
schestowitzToo big to jail, thoughMar 01 20:07
schestowitzMadoff was not too big to jailMar 01 20:08
twitterthey had the DOJ and SEC wrapped up. Mar 01 20:08
schestowitzHe has a private firmMar 01 20:08
schestowitzToo smallMar 01 20:08
schestowitzScapegoatMar 01 20:08
schestowitzThe bigger madoffs got bailoutMar 01 20:08
twitterwatch the lit fuse burn back, or notMar 01 20:08
schestowitzAward for being madoffsMar 01 20:08
schestowitzWho stole from the POOR, not from the RICH (like MAdoff did)Mar 01 20:08
schestowitzThey should all be in jalMar 01 20:08
schestowitzjailMar 01 20:09
neighborlee2yeah and  our governemtn scapegoats the POOR in favor of the rich, who get lovely HUGE tax breaks ;)..aint life grand ;)Mar 01 20:09
schestowitzStats of interestMar 01 20:09
twitteragreeMar 01 20:09
schestowitzAbout 25% of the world's prisoners are in the USMar 01 20:09
schestowitzBut the US is less than 5% of the world's populationMar 01 20:09
schestowitzNow, you'd think that those in jail would be crooksMar 01 20:09
schestowitzInstead it's people who are hungry and forced to steal/shopliftMar 01 20:09
schestowitzDue to economic divideMar 01 20:09
schestowitzOr people who share plants one can smokeMar 01 20:10
schestowitzPeople are falling for it because of the MSM (mainstream media)Mar 01 20:10
twitterit is the end result of class warfare Mar 01 20:10
schestowitzMSM tells them the 'black people' or the 'poor people' are the threatMar 01 20:10
schestowitzAnd external threats like IraqMar 01 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ubuntu 11.4 – “Natty Narwhal” – aproape de lansare http://is.gd/IVpC5P #ubuntu #linux #gnu #microsoft #windows #romaniaMar 01 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know of a link to feedburners podcasting benefits that doesn't need you to already sign in?Mar 01 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] their site seems to be set up as a circle jerkMar 01 20:10
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neighborlee2im totaly FINE for medical MJ,,,but nothing elseMar 01 20:10
schestowitzSo their want their brothers in jail and the real crooks glamourisedMar 01 20:10
schestowitzThose who start wars to enrich their rich friends in the indutrial complexMar 01 20:11
schestowitzThose who destroy SMBSMar 01 20:11
twitterthe rich and powerful have blamed poor people for society's problems, which is silly because poor people have nothing (50% of US has less than 2.5% of wealth), and no power.Mar 01 20:11
schestowitzClass war is the main/only warMar 01 20:11
schestowitzbut it's rarely foughtMar 01 20:11
schestowitzWI is the exception nowMar 01 20:11
schestowitzPeople stop being idiotsMar 01 20:11
schestowitzAnd the real enemies are namedMar 01 20:11
neighborlee2the people I've known/know who do,are couch potatoes,,and need it and have to buy it far too often..its economically a disaster for those affected..im all for getting rid of black market YES,,,but the couch potato thing hmm ( and being hooked on it ) is a different story guysMar 01 20:11
schestowitzAnonymous started talking on Koch nowMar 01 20:11
schestowitzTo support WIMar 01 20:12
neighborlee2twitter, yupMar 01 20:12
schestowitzSo there you have a sort of awakening that's viralMar 01 20:12
schestowitzAnd wikileaks fuels some of itMar 01 20:12
twitterNow the rich and powerful realize that they are out of rope for sqeezing "welfare queens", so watch out they will find new scape goats.Mar 01 20:12
schestowitzBy discarding the PR (Gates smiling, Warren playing grandpa, Koch 'creating jobs') and showing what criminals those people really areMar 01 20:12
neighborlee2twitter, most likelyMar 01 20:12
schestowitzIf the crooks were robbed off their loot the US would be better off, b farMar 01 20:13
schestowitzPeople would pay tax for that moneyMar 01 20:13
schestowitzAnd poverty declineMar 01 20:13
schestowitzMore jobsMar 01 20:13
schestowitzMore distribution among businessesMar 01 20:13
twitterWell, considering that 10% of the population has more than 80% of the wealth, there's hardly any one else to tax.Mar 01 20:14
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schestowitzbut the propaganda goes along the lines of, "we need those rich generous people" for "job creation" (politician love this term)Mar 01 20:14
schestowitztwitter: : exactlyMar 01 20:14
schestowitzThe rich are so benevolent that it would be unfair to tax them :-)Mar 01 20:14
neighborlee2twitter, yup..thats why social programs, are getting axed to deathMar 01 20:14
twittertaxing anyone but the ultra rich won't bring in any money, but those in power are busy trying to cut off services instead.Mar 01 20:14
neighborlee2twitter, thx to obama's caving IN ;)Mar 01 20:14
schestowitzLook at Gates... killed so many companies... why should he be taxedMar 01 20:14
neighborlee2that tooMar 01 20:15
schestowitzneighborlee2: you're nearby, right?Mar 01 20:15
schestowitzIowa?Mar 01 20:15
neighborlee2there are times,,that I WISH I was in IOwa..I sorely miss my rootsMar 01 20:15
neighborlee2now that most family members aregone ;)Mar 01 20:15
schestowitzAhh..Mar 01 20:15
neighborlee2wa state atm.Mar 01 20:15
twitterwe shall see.  bbl, I have work to do.  let me know if you see any Gates Foundation contracts for schools and libraries.  Mar 01 20:15
neighborlee2hehMar 01 20:16
twitterI'd like to keep state money out of Microsoft's hands and see schools use free software instead.Mar 01 20:16
neighborlee2me tooMar 01 20:16
twitterthat's an issue even tea baggers can agree withMar 01 20:17
neighborlee2trouble is not all oss is 'good'..but then if we didn't have a capitalism based society,more time would go to those oss apps and they would be just as good/better ;)(Mar 01 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: F4A 1.4 released | Freedom 4 Android - http://goo.gl/mCE5XMar 01 20:17
neighborlee2capitalism create divides, where none exist at birth ;))Mar 01 20:17
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neighborlee2twitter, dont count on it LOLMar 01 20:17
neighborlee2I mean tea baggers agreeing ;))Mar 01 20:17
neighborlee2the are theones that called obama and his wife, nazi's,,good ole glen beck ;)Mar 01 20:18
schestowitzneighborlee2: US is not capitalism, eitherMar 01 20:18
neighborlee2they Mar 01 20:18
schestowitzit's hybridMar 01 20:18
neighborlee2well whatever ;))Mar 01 20:18
neighborlee2youget my pointMar 01 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Qi Gen Guo is the sixth detainee to pass away in ICE custody in fiscal year 2011. http://ur1.ca/3d7hw (via @favianna)Mar 01 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #Greed has left the world a dying, poisoned place, where most endure a shitty Hobbesian existence.Mar 01 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] UK Drama: #MSBBC Blames #Google — Not #Microsoft — for London Stock Exchange Site Malware, Sabotage Still Suspected http://ur1.ca/3d7e5 #lseMar 01 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @favianna @wwwICEgov How was Qi detained? http://ur1.ca/3d7hw ⇒ SIXTH detainee to die in ICE custody in fiscal 2011 #disappearedMar 01 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @dtapscott !WikiLeaks nominated for 2011 Nobel Peace Prize http://ur1.ca/3d5ok ⇐ OK! Woo Hoo! !cablegateMar 01 20:25
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txdvhttp://bit.ly/gBWa6mMar 01 20:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why is this a press release??? http://ur1.ca/3d7jlMar 01 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @dtapscott !WikiLeaks nominated for 2011 Nobel Peace Prize http://ur1.ca/3d5ok ⇐ OK! Woo Hoo! !cablegateMar 01 20:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's not unsusual for a Nobel Peace Prize candidate/winner to be subjected to death threats; what's unusual is that this time the US does itMar 01 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] WikiLeaks, Internet in record Nobel Peace field http://is.gd/XVHDXg #wikileaks #nobel #prize #internetMar 01 20:32
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FaitherHoiMar 01 20:33
schestowitzHi Faither!Mar 01 20:33
schestowitzSorry I couldn't reply earlierMar 01 20:33
schestowitzWas super-busy, now I'm idlingMar 01 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2010 Nobel Peace Prize awarded to China dissident Liu Xiaobo http://ur1.ca/3d7jx Assange 'risks death penalty' http://ur1.ca/3d7k2Mar 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself..."Mar 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." ~George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903)Mar 01 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Nobel Peace Prize awarded to China dissident Liu Xiaobo .::. Size~: 70.85 KBMar 01 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] German Defence Minister Guttenberg resigns over thesis http://ur1.ca/3d7ki where did he download his resignation letter? ;-) #GuttenbergMar 01 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - German Defence Minister Guttenberg resigns over thesis .::. Size~: 61.56 KBMar 01 20:37
schestowitz"The plagiarism scandal led to him being nicknamed Baron Cut-and-Paste, Zu Copyberg and Zu Googleberg by the German media."Mar 01 20:37
schestowitzLOL Mar 01 20:37
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FaitherThe media and even when covering sport events made puns about himMar 01 20:39
neighborleehahMar 01 20:39
schestowitzFaither: in identica tooMar 01 20:40
schestowitzMaybe he was too busyMar 01 20:40
schestowitzWho broke the news by googling 'his' work?Mar 01 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will banksters get away with it? http://ur1.ca/3d7l6 of course they will. They are too big to jail. #economics #bailoutMar 01 20:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will banksters get away with it? .::. Size~: 61.85 KBMar 01 20:40
gnufreexI don't get why people thing screamers are entitled on Canonical's money.Mar 01 20:40
gnufreex*thinkMar 01 20:41
Faitherschestowitz: I don't know all the details about "Herr von und zu Gutenberg"Mar 01 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @Perepeinard The !cablegate Daily is out! http://paper.li/tag/cablegate !WikiLeaksMar 01 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @leorockway http://duckduckgo.com is better than Google... by 4 votes now =] http://ye.gg/aboutMar 01 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The # cablegate Daily .::. Size~: 102.46 KBMar 01 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DuckDuckGo .::. Size~: 5.25 KBMar 01 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Voting is now open for the About Web Search Readers' Choice Awards! .::. Size~: 55.55 KBMar 01 20:42
FaitherSome claim he copied more than 50% of his work without giving creditsMar 01 20:42
schestowitzOr using quote signsMar 01 20:42
schestowitzgnufreex: Canonical could just not pick BansheeMar 01 20:43
schestowitzHow would Banshee (Novell) like *that*?Mar 01 20:43
schestowitzAnd Canonical sold songs with RB/U1.Mar 01 20:43
schestowitzSo it came from a position of already having this revenue streamMar 01 20:43
gnufreexI know, but I just can't get why people think projects should take cut of some companies revenue.Mar 01 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [IMG] Sometimes One Picture Says It All http://ur1.ca/3d7lo #libyaMar 01 20:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sometimes One Picture Says It All at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.2 KBMar 01 20:44
FaitherI also don't get what all the fuzz is all about with the ubuntu/banshee thingyMar 01 20:44
schestowitzBanshee is not a projectMar 01 20:44
schestowitzIt's a Novell productMar 01 20:44
gnufreexWhat if every project tax them like this.Mar 01 20:44
schestowitzThey spin it as "money for GNOME"Mar 01 20:44
schestowitzMonomanics...Mar 01 20:44
gnufreexSo even more to the point.Mar 01 20:44
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gnufreexHow can people (which are not Novellers) feel that screamers deserve money.Mar 01 20:45
gnufreex?Mar 01 20:45
schestowitztwitter made some points about them not even saying the money goes to MAFIAAMar 01 20:45
schestowitzgnufreex: I told jono!Mar 01 20:45
schestowitzHe wouldn't listen :-)Mar 01 20:45
schestowitzI told him ages ago, maybe even in 2009Mar 01 20:45
schestowitzThe banshibuntu situation goes back to 2009Mar 01 20:46
schestowitzNovell finally got its wayMar 01 20:46
schestowitzI bet Ballmer farted in someone's soup out of joyMar 01 20:46
gnufreexlolMar 01 20:46
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/03/01/gnulinux-in-turkey/Mar 01 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNU/Linux in Turkey at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 29.05 KBMar 01 20:47
FaitherThe thing I don't get is: Ubuntu wanted like all the money _FOR_ including banshee... and offered several 'deals'Mar 01 20:47
schestowitzTime for BIlly to pack up and fly to TurkeyMar 01 20:47
Faithernow if it really was such a huge deal for the banshee pplMar 01 20:47
schestowitzHe must fight Lin... I mean, AIDSMar 01 20:48
Faitherthey should just have said, go look somewhere elseMar 01 20:48
MinceRdon't you mean "cancer"?Mar 01 20:48
MinceRthat's what they called it...Mar 01 20:48
schestowitzHe doesn't do thatMar 01 20:48
schestowitzLook at the Gates FundmentalistsMar 01 20:48
schestowitzLittle about cancer-related activityMar 01 20:49
schestowitzHe works for the cronies he hiredMar 01 20:49
gnufreexSomebody should contact Rytmbox people and as them if they are ok with canonical taking all the money. If yes, then they should pitch a deal to Canonical.Mar 01 20:49
schestowitzLike GSK presidents, etc.Mar 01 20:49
schestowitzHe is selling licences for their patentsMar 01 20:49
schestowitzHIV 'cocktails' are big business ($$)Mar 01 20:49
schestowitzMany patents, expensive dependable drugs that sell you more days to live, no permanent soloooshenMar 01 20:50
schestowitzJust what Big Pharma loveMar 01 20:50
schestowitzA drug you must buy every day (without national healthcare) just to liveMar 01 20:50
schestowitzSo you have everything to loseMar 01 20:50
schestowitzYou'd sell the car, the house...Mar 01 20:50
schestowitzJust to buy some patent licences from the Big PharmasMar 01 20:51
schestowitzAnd Gates employs these people to run his entire 'health' section.Mar 01 20:51
schestowitz!google tachi gates gsk corruptMar 01 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gates Keepers :: Tachi Yamada at the Gates Foundation is still in ... | http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/2/25/4466095.htmlMar 01 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ending Vaccination Humanicide - Medicine Corrupted | http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_vacunas47.htmMar 01 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Gates, Monsanto, and Monopoly: Foundation Keeps Wealth in the Club | http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/27-27/4742-gates-monsanto-and-monopoly-foundation-keeps-wealth-in-the-clubMar 01 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - PharmaGossip: When big pharma breaks the law, prosecute the CEO ... | http://pharmagossip.blogspot.com/2010/10/when-big-pharma-breaks-law-prosecute.htmlMar 01 20:51
txdvschestowitz: where is banshees money going>Mar 01 20:54
txdvnot to the gnome foundation?Mar 01 20:54
Faithertxdv: 25% gnome 75% canonicalMar 01 20:54
gnufreexI think they are saving to buy place in GNOME advisory board.Mar 01 20:54
Faithereven share xDMar 01 20:54
gnufreexFaither: no, it doesn't go to GNOMEMar 01 20:54
gnufreexIt goes to bansheeMar 01 20:55
gnufreexAnd then they say they will give GNOMEMar 01 20:55
Faither...Mar 01 20:55
Faither^^Mar 01 20:55
gnufreexProbably in exchange for some influenceMar 01 20:55
Faitherok say and doMar 01 20:55
Faither2 thingMar 01 20:55
FaithersMar 01 20:55
gnufreexI don't know why they are so hell bent to fighting for GNOME.Mar 01 20:56
txdvthey are going to use this money to hire professional killers and kill everyone who oposses monoMar 01 20:56
FaitherlolMar 01 20:56
gnufreexEspecially when they are posinoning it with MOno anywaysMar 01 20:56
txdvstarting with gnufreexMar 01 20:56
txdvTo all you mono haters out there, you will join us or dieMar 01 20:57
gnufreextxdv: Last Mono Jihad pusher in GNOME advisory board got fired and lost position. They need a new one.Mar 01 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How #Egypt Can Help #Libya http://ur1.ca/3d7pm by @rmsMar 01 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman: How Egypt Can Help Libya .::. Size~: 243.38 KBMar 01 20:59
txdvwhat was his name, gnufreex?Mar 01 20:59
Ziomatrixschestowitz: well charities can be a great way to shore up assets, just check out St. Jude's Childrens' Research stats for example: http://bit.ly/fDxARF They had enough capital to acquire a slew of different laboratories just as Light Lab Imaging.Mar 01 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Charity Review of ALSAC/St. Jude Children's Research Hospital .::. Size~: 49.6 KBMar 01 20:59
gnufreextxdv: I am not going to mention trolls here but I use placeholder name Wrongie when I have too.Mar 01 21:00
txdvwhy wont you mention them?Mar 01 21:00
gnufreexHe has dedicated site for smearing schestowitz's site,.Mar 01 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @easyeddy Social media as a tool used by attorneys in divorce conflicts: FB 66%, MySpace 5%, Twitter 5%, the rest 14%. - http://goo ...Mar 01 21:00
txdvi want to see that siteMar 01 21:00
gnufreexYou don't know?Mar 01 21:01
txdvNo, sherlockMar 01 21:01
schestowitzgnufreex: several.Mar 01 21:01
txdvat least schestowitz stores all his smearing activities on page ^^Mar 01 21:01
schestowitzgnufreex: don't feed the dildo salesmanMar 01 21:01
gnufreexYes, I one dedicate to smearing this site, other for smearing others.Mar 01 21:01
schestowitztxdv: he has about 20 sitesMar 01 21:01
schestowitzThat we know ofMar 01 21:02
schestowitzAt least 10Mar 01 21:02
schestowitzSome of them he uses to sell vibratorsMar 01 21:02
txdvcan i get his name so i can google them up?Mar 01 21:02
schestowitzMaybe that's why he has been quiet recently :-)Mar 01 21:02
FaitherxDMar 01 21:02
txdvmust be a successMar 01 21:02
txdvselling vibrators on smearing sitesMar 01 21:02
schestowitzFaither: fab made fun of him for itMar 01 21:02
schestowitztxdv: no, separate sitesMar 01 21:03
schestowitzIn one site he uploaded nakes photos of some dude he hatedMar 01 21:03
schestowitzHe put a bounty on himMar 01 21:03
Faitherif it was in one of the comments then I think i read itMar 01 21:03
schestowitzAnd the girlfriend passed photos for blackmailMar 01 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Gräßlin über die verhältnis zwischen Canonical und die upstream Projekten http://goo.gl/i16Bc (auf Deutsch)Mar 01 21:04
gnufreexHe was attacking RMS on GNOME maling listMar 01 21:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Upstream und Downstream «  Martin’s Blog .::. Size~: 13.32 KBMar 01 21:04
schestowitzStay away from the ScienmonogistsMar 01 21:04
Faither^^Mar 01 21:04
schestowitzgnufreex: what about Van Hoof?Mar 01 21:04
gnufreexWhat about him?Mar 01 21:05
schestowitzQuiet.Mar 01 21:05
FaitherThey claim to "see sharp"Mar 01 21:05
gnufreexYes, it seems he cant find any reason to attack RMSMar 01 21:05
schestowitzShark... *Spit*Mar 01 21:05
gnufreexThat makes RMS a saint.Mar 01 21:05
gnufreexSeriouslyMar 01 21:05
gnufreexWhen bashers can't find a reasont to attack him.Mar 01 21:05
schestowitzHe said RMS advocates rape IIRCMar 01 21:05
schestowitzThe spin...Mar 01 21:05
schestowitzOne makes a jokeMar 01 21:05
schestowitzAnother interprets this as advocating rape *Sigh*Mar 01 21:06
neighborleewth did I miss ???Mar 01 21:06
txdvwhat does IIRC mean?Mar 01 21:06
neighborleeegadMar 01 21:06
Faithertxdv: if i remember correctlyMar 01 21:06
schestowitzInternet IRC :-)Mar 01 21:06
FaitherxDMar 01 21:07
txdvInternet IRC = Internet Internet Relay ChatMar 01 21:07
txdvthats kinda redundantMar 01 21:07
txdvIIRC, REALY ITS ABOUT INTERNET!Mar 01 21:07
txdvreally*Mar 01 21:07
Faitherit most of the time isMar 01 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Mobilecity puts LG G-Slate 4G pre-order at $699 http://goo.gl/mofCN !androidMar 01 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke Architectural Best Practices: use layers to decouple http://goo.gl/6u8pnMar 01 21:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mobilecity puts LG G-Slate 4G pre-order at $699 | michaelheller | Androinica .::. Size~: 53.96 KBMar 01 21:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek And Poke: Architectural Best Practices .::. Size~: 42.83 KBMar 01 21:07
schestowitzI... I R*** C***Mar 01 21:07
gnufreexYeah, by doing Saint IGNUtius RMS apparenty kill kittens.Mar 01 21:07
schestowitzSounds like what they say RMS says..Mar 01 21:07
neighborlee'if I read correctly' <<<Mar 01 21:07
neighborleelolMar 01 21:08
FaitherWhat Does "idk" stand for? - I don't know. - No one ever knows )=Mar 01 21:08
schestowitzneighborlee: "recall"Mar 01 21:08
MinceR:>Mar 01 21:08
schestowitzIOWMar 01 21:08
schestowitzYMMV, IANAL, FOAD!Mar 01 21:09
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65782699Mar 01 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 20:36:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You'd be amazed how much of a pain it is to get netscape 3.0....Mar 01 21:09
neighborleeI dont see ianal much..def.not foad LOLMar 01 21:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ircolle/status/42684951359004672Mar 01 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr@ircolle: Emergent put up the $, like all PRNewsWire releases. What a waste.... RT @schestowitz: Why is this a press release??? http://ur1.ca/3d7jlMar 01 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Red Hat Certifies Emergent's Quint Van Deman as a Red Hat Certified... -- VIENNA, Va., March 1, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 73.42 KBMar 01 21:09
neighborleeis that a fast toad ;0-0 < topic leadped out at them > o_0Mar 01 21:10
schestowitzYeah, still quite a noise in the wireMar 01 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ahmed Kamal: First Ever !UbuntuCloud Days http://goo.gl/1qw9z !uMar 01 21:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Boss: First Ever Ubuntu Cloud Days .::. Size~: 49.23 KBMar 01 21:10
Faitherabbreviations like ianal are a pain in the butt xDMar 01 21:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ircolle/status/42685568164962304 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fab1IsCZzY&feature=player_detailpage#t=99sMar 01 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr@ircolle: Death threats? Really?!? Cite some evidence please. RT @schestowitz: US subjecting Nobel Peace Prize candidate #WikiLeaks to death threats.Mar 01 21:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - The Assassination of Julian Assange .::. Size~: 124.49 KBMar 01 21:11
schestowitzFaither: PITA?Mar 01 21:12
Faither-.-Mar 01 21:12
schestowitzhttp://understory.ran.org/2011/02/25/breaking-wisconsin-police-have-joined-protest-inside-state-capitol/Mar 01 21:13
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLMar 01 21:13
schestowitz\0/Mar 01 21:13
txdvawesomeMar 01 21:15
schestowitzhttp://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/another-runaway-general-army-deploys-psy-ops-on-u-s-senators-20110223?print=trueMar 01 21:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Runaway General: Army Deploys Psy-Ops on U.S. Senators | Rolling Stone Politics .::. Size~: 15.96 KBMar 01 21:15
txdvnow they have to form a new governmentMar 01 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LibreOffice conference announced for October 12-15 http://lwn.net/Articles/430390/rssMar 01 21:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice conference announced for October 12-15 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.77 KBMar 01 21:15
schestowitztxdv: or set an example for other statesMar 01 21:15
schestowitzEgypt set an example to someMar 01 21:16
schestowitzAnd China censors anything about EgyptMar 01 21:16
schestowitzPeople have no seen successful revolutions in ages, except military coups by the US (CIA)Mar 01 21:16
txdvthe americans have a lot of experience on thatMar 01 21:17
txdv;DMar 01 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: ويكيليكس: مخصصات أمراء السعودية كلفت الخزينة الوطنية ملياري دولار عام 1996 bit.ly/iihlmB http://bit.ly/gxIDPXMar 01 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: In U.S.-Libya nuclear deal, a Qadhafi threat faded away |http://www.hindu.com/2011/03/02/stories/2011... http://bit.ly/fuMi73Mar 01 21:17
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Faither<schestowitz> http://understory.ran.org/2011/02/25/breaking-wisconsin-police-have-joined-protest-inside-state-capitol/Mar 01 21:17
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLMar 01 21:17
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Faitheris being blocked by my isp? oOMar 01 21:17
schestowitzReally?!Mar 01 21:18
schestowitzWhat message?Mar 01 21:18
Faithercan't access itMar 01 21:18
txdvwhat page?Mar 01 21:18
schestowitztxdv: maybe they fell jealousMar 01 21:18
txdvi cant access that hindu page tooMar 01 21:18
schestowitzDidn't the Egyptian know that the US had a monopoly on overthrowing governments :->Mar 01 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's the Inequality, Stupid http://ur1.ca/3cmml this is why even cops are revolting now http://ur1.ca/3d7u2Mar 01 21:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It's the Inequality, Stupid | Mother Jones .::. Size~: 106.95 KBMar 01 21:19
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLMar 01 21:19
Faitherhost does resolve though ....Mar 01 21:19
schestowitzIt works OK hereMar 01 21:19
schestowitzWeird...Mar 01 21:19
Faitheri'll switch dnsMar 01 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] are #Chelsea realistically out of the championship hunt if they don't win tonight?Mar 01 21:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ircolle/status/42693625494253568 "@ircolle Palin is on there too"Mar 01 21:21
TechrightsBot-tr@ircolle: @schestowitz, Thankfully, talking heads on "news" shows don't set US policy.  RT @ircolle http://ur1.ca/380huMar 01 21:21
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Faitherdid I miss something? oOMar 01 21:22
Faither...Mar 01 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks: Kenyan President & PM accused of covering up scandals | Nation http://is.gd/gpdmcT !wlMar 01 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Tunisian prime minister Mohamed Ghannouchi resigns amid unrest http://ur1.ca/3d7v8 #powershift #tunisiaMar 01 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ATT have no right to personal privacy, as a corp http://tighturl.com/2zb2Mar 01 21:24
txdvnoMar 01 21:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tunisian prime minister Mohamed Ghannouchi resigns amid unrest | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 91.97 KBMar 01 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supreme Court Says AT&T Has No Right To 'Personal Privacy' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 35.87 KBMar 01 21:24
txdvjust some stupid americans stating that assange should dieMar 01 21:24
schestowitzhttp://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/478Mar 01 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pakistani and Indian Newspapers Say US CIA Contractor Raymond Davis is a Terrorist | This Can't Be Happening .::. Size~: 20.39 KBMar 01 21:24
schestowitzFaither: watch itMar 01 21:24
schestowitzHe was character-assassinatedMar 01 21:24
schestowitzBut they want to press onMar 01 21:24
Faitherseen the video Mar 01 21:24
schestowitzIf the assassination of character is not enough to scare newspapers who quote his workMar 01 21:25
schestowitzFaither: mostly quote from the Taliban PartyMar 01 21:25
schestowitzGOPMar 01 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RosettaStone blaming #Google for piracy rofl #fail http://tighturl.com/2zb3Mar 01 21:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rosetta Stone Says Google Is A 'Gateway For Criminals'; Urges Congress To Make Google Liable For Infringement Via COICA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 68.54 KBMar 01 21:25
FaitherI thought he really was assassinated after reading the headlineMar 01 21:26
schestowitz[with apologies for the Taliban in this comparison]Mar 01 21:26
schestowitzFaither: his character wasMar 01 21:26
Faitheryes after seeing yt popping up i rememberedMar 01 21:27
Faitheroh via tor I could open the pageMar 01 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Kenya: Extra-judicial killings and killing of witnesses http://alturl.com/vkm9d !wlMar 01 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ويكيليكس: مخصصات أمراء السعودية كلفت الخزينة الوطنية ملياري دولار عام 1996 bit.ly/iihlmB !wlMar 01 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mass arrests stopped further #Djibouti protests http://ur1.ca/3d7x1 protests as illegal means democracy becomes a shamMar 01 21:35
schestowitzFaither: if you use tor to access pages, it must be child porn /sarcasmMar 01 21:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: afrol News - Mass arrests stopped further Djibouti protests .::. Size~: 33.72 KBMar 01 21:35
gnufreexschestowitz: did you see this http://identi.ca/conversation/65000476#notice-65772799Mar 01 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 30.13 KBMar 01 21:37
Faitherschestowitz: Are there other use cases for tor? xD Mar 01 21:38
gnufreexI never thought I will defend Canonical Mar 01 21:38
neighborleeschestowitz, ugh I just watched brooke on CNN talk to piers morgan, who basically stuck up for sick sheen,,,sheen laughed during interview when speaking about cocain,laughing about 'having to buy' it.asif its a laughing matter, and piers let him get away withit, and stuck up for his antics to brooke's interview..talk about enabling a sick human being ;)Mar 01 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Urgent: #Mousavi is in Jail http://ur1.ca/3d7xh opposition a crime? #iranMar 01 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In U.S.-Libya nuclear deal, a Qadhafi threat faded away |http://alturl.com/2hoaz !wlMar 01 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Urgent: Mousavi is in Jail «  News About Iran .::. Size~: 44.1 KBMar 01 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : Opinion / News Analysis : In U.S.-Libya nuclear deal, a Qadhafi threat faded away .::. Size~: 22.3 KBMar 01 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Control our scanner with SANE http://is.gd/94ALvg #sane #scanner #gnu #linux #microsoft #windowsMar 01 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Command Line: SANE - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 39.65 KBMar 01 21:40
txdvthey breed hate ;DMar 01 21:41
txdvthey come together and breed hateMar 01 21:41
txdvlaying eggs of hatred and destructionMar 01 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @prolinuxro: 10 industries that would benefit from using open source http://tek.io/hf9RrfMar 01 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What would you do with Open.org? http://ur1.ca/3d7y8 "The domain name was recently acquired by Linux Fund from the City of Salem"Mar 01 21:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 industries that would benefit from using open source | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 105.3 KBMar 01 21:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What would you do with Open.org? | ITworld .::. Size~: 81.72 KBMar 01 21:42
schestowitzgnufreex: they dodge your pointsMar 01 21:43
schestowitzIt's funnyMar 01 21:43
schestowitzThey say, "I don't like it! I think it's wrong"Mar 01 21:43
schestowitzThen you hand them factsMar 01 21:43
schestowitzAnd they move the goalpostsMar 01 21:43
schestowitzIn a debate, the spectator would see what goes on.Mar 01 21:44
schestowitzneighborlee: who's sick?Mar 01 21:44
neighborleeschestowitz, reference to charlie sheen interview with piers morganMar 01 21:44
schestowitzI don't know MorganMar 01 21:45
neighborleeschestowitz, and resulting interview by brooke on cnn, with piersMar 01 21:45
neighborleeoh icMar 01 21:45
schestowitzBut I  heard about some interviews...Mar 01 21:45
gnufreexThat is why I can't get how people can bash canonical over this.Mar 01 21:45
schestowitzHe's hanging around with some nuts like ALex JonesMar 01 21:45
neighborleejust another brit with a show..he took over for larrry king when he retiredMar 01 21:45
schestowitzBut he's harmless (Sheen)Mar 01 21:45
schestowitzSHeen is not the problemMar 01 21:45
gnufreexGordon is no mono pusher, and he defended  Canonical even when I criticized it.Mar 01 21:45
schestowitzThey should go after tge big problems, like Koch, gates, Slim, MubarakMar 01 21:45
schestowitzSHeen is small timeMar 01 21:45
neighborleehe isn't harmless, when he jokes about cocainMar 01 21:46
gnufreexon this chanelMar 01 21:46
schestowitzSome guy who reads like from someone's scriptMar 01 21:46
neighborleebut yes..sheen is small time'ishMar 01 21:46
schestowitzneighborlee: it's no big dealMar 01 21:46
neighborleeexcept..he is highest paid actor atmMar 01 21:46
schestowitzYou worry he legitimises it?Mar 01 21:46
neighborleeof course IdoMar 01 21:46
schestowitzDrugs are not the #1 issueMar 01 21:46
schestowitzFirst fix healthdcareMar 01 21:46
schestowitzThen worry about drugsMar 01 21:46
neighborleethey are both important issues ;)Mar 01 21:47
neighborleeone affects, the other ;)Mar 01 21:47
schestowitz40,000 Americans are said to die every year cause they have no insuranceMar 01 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, #Chelsea winning 2-1 makes the premier league run-in a bit more interesting #footballMar 01 21:47
neighborleeyup I know..old newsMar 01 21:47
neighborleevery old ;)Mar 01 21:47
schestowitzAnd Tobacco also mass-murders people and can still advertise/lobbyMar 01 21:47
schestowitz[21:46] <neighborlee> except..he is highest paid actor atmMar 01 21:47
schestowitzI doubt itMar 01 21:47
schestowitzHighest pay grade?Mar 01 21:47
schestowitzOr highest paid?Mar 01 21:48
neighborleeyes I think so anywayMar 01 21:48
neighborleehighest rated show also..Mar 01 21:48
schestowitzWhat kind of films?Mar 01 21:48
gnufreexThis is interesting http://identi.ca/conversation/65005101#notice-65787396Mar 01 21:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 77.2 KBMar 01 21:48
gnufreexFontana thinks Cheerokee logo is discriminatory to indians.Mar 01 21:48
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65788300Mar 01 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 21:37:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes it is, in iran ;PMar 01 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Obsesia pentru control http://is.gd/30NJbi #mobile #romaniaMar 01 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obsesia pentru control « ProiectRomania .::. Size~: 33.07 KBMar 01 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interesting discussion about Indian names. http://ur1.ca/3d7zmMar 01 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 78.48 KBMar 01 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Right, so its back to usual then eh: how to make it hard for ourselves. That being said, all those away draws look horrible now :| !ManUtdMar 01 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting Started With Linux: Why Install Linux? http://ur1.ca/3d804 for answer, please see gnu.org ;-)Mar 01 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Getting Started With Linux: Why Install Linux? | Lifehacker Australia .::. Size~: 59.39 KBMar 01 21:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ircolle/status/42696119473537025Mar 01 21:55
TechrightsBot-tr@ircolle: Like I said - talking heads.  She works for FOX now and doesn't hold any elected office. RT @schestowitz: @ircolle Palin is on there tooMar 01 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @fabsh !q "I, for one, welcome our computer overlords…but only if I can study and modify their source code." ~ @bkuhn, http://outl.ws ...Mar 01 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New cartoon: "So, God, how's Earth doing?" http://loneyinfermo.com/?id=50 via MinceRMar 01 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: bit.ly | Basic | a simple URL shortener .::. Size~: 12.1 KBMar 01 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Loney Infermo - God FAIL .::. Size~: 5.29 KBMar 01 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Catch y'all tomorrow. :)Mar 01 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The first #LibreOffice Conference will be in Paris! http://ur1.ca/3d6u7 #odf #freedom #franceMar 01 22:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The first LibreOffice Conference will be in Paris! | Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards .::. Size~: 28.86 KBMar 01 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Let's hope @charlesschulz & the #libreoffice folks won't invite #Sarko - amid all his private meetings with Bill Gates he lobbied for #OOXMLMar 01 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Why I am feeling surprised at the ABU muppet-ery going on now... sigh :| !UnitedMar 01 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What should “Should be” be? | http://bit.ly/e4F1dd #communityMar 01 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What should “Should be” be? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 33.82 KBMar 01 22:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/65016563#notice-65790780Mar 01 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.88 KBMar 01 22:09
schestowitzThat he found that disturbing I find rather disturbing :-)(Mar 01 22:09
gnufreexlol this is priceless http://www.gksoft.com/a/fun/borg-gates.htmlMar 01 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Borg Meet Bill Gates .::. Size~: 5.95 KBMar 01 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @Perepeinard The !cablegate Daily is out! http://paper.li/tag/cablegate !WikiLeaksMar 01 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rcweir through an Antique Store Window [Flickr] http://goo.gl/fb/qDog9Mar 01 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @FFII Governments around the world are moving towards open standards but Europe appears stuck in the slow lane.Mar 01 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: El # cablegate Diario .::. Size~: 102.79 KBMar 01 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Through an Antique Store Window | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 97.89 KBMar 01 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Dutch #ODF Policy in Retrospect http://ur1.ca/3d83o via @rcweir & @fabricemousMar 01 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Warner Music Mutes MP Angus' Radio Documentary On Youtube http://ur1.ca/3d83w #mafiaa #censorship with #copyrightMar 01 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Losing like that sucks obviously, time to pick ourselves up though, big games, all of them until the end of the season !UnitedMar 01 22:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Dutch ODF Policy in Retrospect .::. Size~: 61.46 KBMar 01 22:15
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txdvPicard: "Turn the monitors off, Data, I can't bear to watch. Even the Borg doesn't deserve such a gruesome death!"Mar 01 22:16
txdv=]]]]]]]]]]]Mar 01 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rcweir Email server is down. I might actually get work done today! << Lotus?! Exchange? Gmail? Why use E-mail at all? Unreliable, slow.Mar 01 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @schestowitz !Wikileaks Goes After The Saudi Royal Family http://ur1.ca/3d4j9 #ifwl #transparencyMar 01 22:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Goes After The Saudi Royal Family .::. Size~: 175.3 KBMar 01 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent row gets Playstation 3s banned from Europe http://ur1.ca/3d3xs patents are good for innovation... of ways to block competitionMar 01 22:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patent row gets Playstation 3s banned from Europe • Channel Register .::. Size~: 21.79 KBMar 01 22:20
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/65792164Mar 01 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 22:18:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz : You actually think we would do that? Yet Sarko is welcome anytime to explain he got it all wrong with FOSS and tech rights...Mar 01 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @laurelrusswurm !WikiLeaks nominated for 2011 Nobel Peace Prize http://ur1.ca/3d5ok ⇐ OK! Woo Hoo! !cablegateMar 01 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Over 5000 WikiLeaks cables now online: http://alturl.com/p3kt6 !wlMar 01 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks, Internet in record Nobel Peace field | Reuters .::. Size~: 76.34 KBMar 01 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable Viewer .::. Size~: 53.79 KBMar 01 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] London Stock Exchange Woes not !Linux's Fault | ZDNet http://ping.fm/njG7UMar 01 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Opensource expert takes on the hardest job at Microsoft ( - Software - Operating systems, non-Windows ) http://ping.fm/lXK7PMar 01 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Stock Exchange Woes not Linux's Fault | ZDNet .::. Size~: 134.57 KBMar 01 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source expert takes on the hardest job at Microsoft ( - Software - Operating systems, non-Windows ) .::. Size~: 45.02 KBMar 01 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] First Adobe Flash Player 11 "Incubator" Preview Available For Download http://bit.ly/fx6iTBMar 01 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unity 3.6.0 Comes With Option To Maximize Dash, Lots Of Bug Fixes [Ubuntu 11.04 Updates] http://bit.ly/g4QkneMar 01 22:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First Adobe Flash Player 11 "Incubator" Preview Available For Download ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 66.87 KBMar 01 22:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unity 3.6.0 Comes With Option To Maximize Dash, Lots Of Bug Fixes [Ubuntu 11.04 Updates] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.87 KBMar 01 22:30
FaitherI'm off, cyaMar 01 22:31
schestowitz0/Mar 01 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] AdamW » Internationalization and localization Test Week !fedora http://ping.fm/By0xNMar 01 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AdamW on Linux and more  » Blog Archive   » Internationalization and localization Test Week this week! .::. Size~: 27.55 KBMar 01 22:32
schestowitzhttp://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/03/01/cia-shows-massive-internet-explorer-gain-and-largest-firefox-loss/Mar 01 22:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Data from CIA shows massive Internet Explorer gain, and largest Firefox loss ever .::. Size~: 90.13 KBMar 01 22:35
gnufreexWhen I think about it, Americans using Intian tribes as mascot is worse than Germans using Jews as a macot. Mar 01 22:35
gnufreexWhat is done to American Indians is biggest genocide in history of mankind.Mar 01 22:36
gnufreexJews survived Hitler.Mar 01 22:36
gnufreexIndians are nearly extinct.Mar 01 22:36
gnufreexOn Nort America that isMar 01 22:37
gnufreexThere are lots on south.Mar 01 22:37
schestowitzSome are in CanadaMar 01 22:37
schestowitzBut there are many differences stillMar 01 22:37
schestowitzAnd talking about them may upset some peopleMar 01 22:37
schestowitzGenerally, anything ethnic in a discussion is now politically incorrectMar 01 22:38
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/030111-microsoft-php-opensource.html?hpg1=bnMar 01 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PHP user group lauds Microsoft's open source contributions .::. Size~: 123.16 KBMar 01 22:38
schestowitzMore IDG Microsoft PRMar 01 22:38
schestowitzAnd again:  PHP user group lauds Microsoft's open source contributions Mar 01 22:40
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/030111-microsoft-rabellino.htmlMar 01 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source expert takes on the hardest job at Microsoft .::. Size~: 125.41 KBMar 01 22:40
gnufreexAre they for real?Mar 01 22:40
gnufreexI mean PHP usersMar 01 22:40
gnufreexOr they are just astroturfers and moles?Mar 01 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Unity 3.6.0 Comes With Option To Maximize Dash, Lots Of Bug Fixes [!Ubuntu #Natty Updates] http://goo.gl/deqOPMar 01 22:42
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schestowitzhttp://om26er.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/banshee-lets-talk-bout-a-real-problem/Mar 01 22:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banshee: Lets talk ’bout a real problem. « iTriage .::. Size~: 21.95 KBMar 01 22:43
schestowitzgnufreex: they are not really PHPMar 01 22:43
schestowitzHe just finds some mole to speak toMar 01 22:43
schestowitzSee the second article fom JonMar 01 22:43
schestowitzIt's just whitewashMar 01 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @christianabryant Any !gnu hackers from Los Angeles want to take over a #GUG http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gug-la !fsfMar 01 22:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNU Users Group Los Angeles - Summary [Savannah] .::. Size~: 21.04 KBMar 01 22:44
schestowitzNotice how he links to the "Microsoft loves open source" bait articleMar 01 22:44
schestowitzFrom months agoMar 01 22:44
schestowitz"Man Bites Dog "Mar 01 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[psep/@psep] !WIKILEAKS: Gobierno de Bachelet y de EEUU realizaron gestiones para aprobar termoeléctrica http://bit.ly/fg28Ru (vía @DiarioLaHora)Mar 01 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Humble Indie Bundle: Leaving no customer behind http://ur1.ca/3d87o "Linux users seemed particularly grateful for the support"Mar 01 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LA HORA · Te acompaña .::. Size~: 30.38 KBMar 01 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Humble Indie Bundle: Leaving no customer behind | Joystiq .::. Size~: 72.54 KBMar 01 22:45
twittercatching up.  Mar 01 22:46
schestowitzgnufreex: see what you make of that bash*** replyMar 01 22:46
twitterGoogle gave me this Brokmister article http://om26er.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/banshee-lets-talk-bout-a-real-problem/Mar 01 22:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banshee: Lets talk ’bout a real problem. « iTriage .::. Size~: 22.48 KBMar 01 22:46
gnufreexschestowitz: About extensions?Mar 01 22:47
twitterthatMar 01 22:47
twitters not itMar 01 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Released, Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/3d89j nice one.Mar 01 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Released, Screenshot Tour - Softpedia .::. Size~: 51.61 KBMar 01 22:47
twitteroh yes it is.Mar 01 22:47
twitterha Mar 01 22:47
twitterWhat kills me is that these jerks are acting all hostile to Canonical and giving Amazon a pass as an honest company.Mar 01 22:48
twitterthey go on to promote non free software, againMar 01 22:48
MinceR:>Mar 01 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 2.6.38-rc7 http://lwn.net/Articles/430440/rssMar 01 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Aaron Barr Resigns From HBGary After Battle With Anonymous ≈ Packet Storm http://ping.fm/lrLVdMar 01 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] March 2011 Issue of The #PCLinuxOS Magazine http://ur1.ca/3d8a2 great under-reported distro. I used it yesterday. #gnu #linuxMar 01 22:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel prepatch 2.6.38-rc7 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.01 KBMar 01 22:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aaron Barr Resigns From HBGary After Battle With Anonymous ≈ Packet Storm .::. Size~: 3.66 KBMar 01 22:49
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twitter-> " What's ironic is that the platforms that stand to deliver the most revenue through Banshee for GNOME are non-free: Windows and Mac OS X. Bockover says "I am excited about the new potential Banshee has in the near future to generate truly significant referral revenue for the GNOME Foundation as we near Banshee 2.0 and its availability on Windows and Mac OS X, where we will fully control its distribution as an upstream."Mar 01 22:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65793984Mar 01 22:50
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3's status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 22:44:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz wuh? #email? unreliable and slow? since when? [antispam cuts into #smtp reliability true] [slow-it's not meant to be real time]Mar 01 22:50
twitterThese guys are on the moon if they think their little mono app will even work on Windows, much less Microsoft and Amazon will deal honestly with the revenue.Mar 01 22:50
schestowitzIt's not reliable based on my experience. Many false positives.Mar 01 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The other apps http://ur1.ca/3d8ac "One of the best things about #GNU #Linux is that it already comes with many of the applications"Mar 01 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Manila Standard Today -- The other apps  -- 2011/march/1 .::. Size~: 27.53 KBMar 01 22:50
twitter-> " Aaron Bockover, who founded the Banshee project, says he's concerned about accountability and wants to "ensure that 25% is indeed making it to GNOME in a timely manner, consistent with what we already have in place."Mar 01 22:51
twitterWhat nerve.  Canonical is dishonest but Microsoft and Amazon are their friends.  I suppose Microsoft is their paycheck.Mar 01 22:52
gnufreexSee MSFT pusher in comments http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71798#comment-278262Mar 01 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Language is everything | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 68.06 KBMar 01 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wouldn't say it's "movie" material, more of "movie length TV episode"Mar 01 22:52
MinceRgnMar 01 22:52
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65794278Mar 01 22:52
gnufreexThey are using "I was GNU/Linux user, but..." lineMar 01 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 01-Mar-11 22:47:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz My fav distro. Just don't go in the forums and you'll be ok... ;-DMar 01 22:52
schestowitzPCLOSMar 01 22:52
schestowitzgnufreex: of courseMar 01 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 19 vulnerabilities - Chrome 9 update proves expensive for Google http://ping.fm/dSmPjMar 01 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 19 vulnerabilities - Chrome 9 update proves expensive for Google - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.88 KBMar 01 22:54
twitterOverall, what's outrageous is that the mono people managed to put an RIAA tax on Ubuntu.  90% of the money goes to the RIAA before Ubuntu, Gnome and Banshee developers get to squabble over it.  Canonical was right to kill the cheesy program and should just dump all things mono.  Mar 01 22:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/42718404016222210Mar 01 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Antispam measures are the cause of email reliability issues. SMTP was engineered for very high reliability.Mar 01 22:59
schestowitzme: "@qu1j0t3 I've been having to make very expensive phonecalls over the past 2 weeks because of E-mails killed by filters; HUGE headache."Mar 01 22:59
twitterMicrosoft hates email because free software does it better.  Mar 01 23:00
schestowitzAnd it's not ogg, eitherMar 01 23:00
schestowitzSo add MPEG-LA taxMar 01 23:00
schestowitzAFAIK Canonical pays that tooMar 01 23:00
schestowitzBut kept quiet about...Mar 01 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PSGroove.com - Forensic Analysis Of Geohot's Hard Drives In Dispute http://ping.fm/fbDtDMar 01 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PSGroove.com - Forensic Analysis Of Geohot's Hard Drives In Dispute .::. Size~: 79.39 KBMar 01 23:00
gnufreexYeah, FSF said we should boycott Canonical. schestowitzMar 01 23:00
twitterCanonical was cowed about a lot of Hollywood issues to get distribution on Dell.  Mar 01 23:01
gnufreexThey are paying MPEG LAMar 01 23:01
schestowitzNoMar 01 23:01
schestowitzThey said those who sign the patent pool thingMar 01 23:01
schestowitzMaybe NokiaMar 01 23:01
gnufreexHm...Mar 01 23:01
schestowitz!google fsf mpeg boycottMar 01 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Boycott companies who sign onto the MPEG LA's patent pool — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/mpeg-la/boycottMar 01 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Boycott companies who sign onto the MPEG LA's patent pool — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/mpeg-la-boycottMar 01 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Boycott companies who sign onto the MPEG LA's patent pool — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/mpeg-laMar 01 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Video As In Freedom: FSF Calls For a Boycott of MPEG LA Supporters | http://vaif.ryocentral.info/2011/02/fsf-calls-for-boycott-of-mpeg-la.htmlMar 01 23:01
gnufreexAnd not those that are paying license for H.264 ?Mar 01 23:02
gnufreexJust those who attack VP8Mar 01 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Aka Sony is still being vindictiveMar 01 23:02
schestowitz"Last April, Steve Jobs allegedly claimed a patent pool was being formed to go after VP8 and Theora. This threat has now been realized."Mar 01 23:03
schestowitzApple is one to boycottMar 01 23:03
gnufreexYes, I get it now.Mar 01 23:03
gnufreexI hope Canonical won't copy apple with this.Mar 01 23:03
schestowitzIn fact, boycott organ donours to rich sociopaths tooMar 01 23:03
schestowitzgnufreex: it can'tMar 01 23:04
schestowitzI don't think Canonical has any patentsMar 01 23:04
gnufreexI was jokingMar 01 23:04
schestowitzHey, here's a thing to tryMar 01 23:04
schestowitzGoing to USPTO/Google Patents and searching to see if Canonical is listed for anything other than trademarksMar 01 23:04
schestowitzThey have "Ubuntu" for computing and copyright are granted automatically when they write wares like UnityMar 01 23:05
schestowitzRed Hat has patentsMar 01 23:05
schestowitzKeeps it quietMar 01 23:05
gnufreexTere is a bunch of "Canonical" patents but none of them are ltdMar 01 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @newscientist: In a medical coincidence worthy of the TV series House, a top plague scientist dies of... the plague http://bit.ly/gn7fg3Mar 01 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Short Sharp Science: Plague scientist dies of... the plague .::. Size~: 60.59 KBMar 01 23:05
gnufreexIt is all "canonical way"Mar 01 23:05
gnufreexhmm... there are some applications http://www.google.com/patents?q=Canonical+ltd&btnG=Search+PatentsMar 01 23:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical ltd - Google Patent Search .::. Size~: 23.76 KBMar 01 23:06
schestowitzgnufreex: "or the highway"?Mar 01 23:06
schestowitzHow many does Red Hat have listed?Mar 01 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bringing #Qt applications to #Android – a quickstart video http://ur1.ca/3ctn4Mar 01 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was just looking at these Wayland screenshots http://ping.fm/RRA19Mar 01 23:07
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gnufreexI don't think it has a countr. schestowitzMar 01 23:07
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Mint-10-KDE-released-1199464.htmlMar 01 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 KDE released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.97 KBMar 01 23:08
gnufreexBut I think I read Michael Tieman saying the have about 1000 applications and about 80 patentsMar 01 23:08
gnufreexThat was last yeaerMar 01 23:08
gnufreexyearMar 01 23:08
schestowitzWhoa NellyMar 01 23:08
*Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-70-16-107-214.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #techrightsMar 01 23:09
gnufreexIf I remember that corectly, he said it on trial against AcaciaMar 01 23:09
gnufreexThe one that RH wonMar 01 23:09
gnufreexIt was celebratedMar 01 23:09
gnufreexAnd there was transcrpit on opensource.comMar 01 23:09
Diablo-D3who what?Mar 01 23:09
twitterhttp://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.htmlMar 01 23:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: redhat.com | Red Hat Patent Policy .::. Size~: 18.59 KBMar 01 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @durand Hmmph, new !android #market update keeps crashing, can't actually install anything :/Mar 01 23:12
twitterRed Hat patent promise, " o refrain from enforcing the infringed patent against such party for such exercise ("Our Promise").  Our Promise does not extend to any software which is not Open Source/Free Software, and any party exercising a Patent Right with respect to non-Open Source/Free Software which reads on any claims of any patent held by Red Hat must obtain a license for the exercise of such rights from Red Hat.  Our Promise does notMar 01 23:12
twitterbasically what IBM said.Mar 01 23:12
twitterstill dangerous, but mostly harmless.Mar 01 23:12
gnufreexIt is dangerous to non-free softwareMar 01 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Microsoft Update: Windows Live Mesh goes live without support for Linux http://post.ly/1gkisMar 01 23:14
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twitternon free software is a danger of itself, who cares?Mar 01 23:14
gnufreexThat is what I am sayingMar 01 23:14
gnufreexIt is ok promise for FLOSS, and proprietary can drop dead.Mar 01 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Android Honeycomb Sculpture Arrives at Google Building 44 | Android Community http://post.ly/1gkkMMar 01 23:15
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schestowitzThese promises are not good enoughMar 01 23:16
schestowitzThese are not legally-binding contractsMar 01 23:16
schestowitzIf Red Hat is sold, then the Ellison who buys them can 'pull a SCOracle'Mar 01 23:16
schestowitzAnd I told Fontana about it, there's nothing he can doMar 01 23:16
schestowitzTiller I can't trust eitherMar 01 23:17
twitterActually, published promises are bindingMar 01 23:17
schestowitzUnlike Fontana, he doesn't seem to oppose software patentsMar 01 23:17
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sebsebsebHiMar 01 23:17
schestowitzThe problem is, not enough people pressure Red Hat to sort sebsebseb outMar 01 23:17
sebsebsebhmm?Mar 01 23:17
schestowitzHeheMar 01 23:17
schestowitzs/sebsebseb/this s***/Mar 01 23:18
sebsebsebNo idea what convo might be going on here, or whatever, just joinedMar 01 23:18
gnufreexHahaMar 01 23:18
sebsebsebalso what was that schestowitz?Mar 01 23:18
twitterit was a jokeMar 01 23:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rcweir/status/42721805269602304Mar 01 23:18
TechrightsBot-tr@rcweir: @schestowitz I'm an email packrat.  I have every email saved going back to 1987.Mar 01 23:18
schestowitzfor me it's 2001, I thinkMar 01 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh sweet! it looks like a busted laptop is coming my way.Mar 01 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Kenya - doing business the Chinese way http://alturl.com/zraox !wlMar 01 23:19
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schestowitzhttp://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/02/open-source-software-is-not-free.htmlMar 01 23:20
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schestowitzhttp://www.insidesocal.com/click/2011/02/ubuntus-money-problem-how-much.htmlMar 01 23:22
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schestowitzBallmer farts in the soup againMar 01 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 10 #KDE Screenshots http://ur1.ca/3d8fm great distro, KDE has gotten very mature tooMar 01 23:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @popey: The !Ubuntu Community Council discussed the !banshee !gnome "issue" today. It makes interesting reading http://popey.me/fUXyPIMar 01 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bogdan Vatra http://ur1.ca/3d8g5 "What do you do these days in Qt Android?" #kde #qt #linuxMar 01 23:25
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oiaohmReally no one has raised this issue.  Ubuntu taking money from Banshee sets a highly risking precendent.Mar 01 23:26
oiaohmWhat stops someone making a webbrowser that rewrites advertisement on websites and redirects income to themselves.Mar 01 23:26
oiaohmWeb site provided the source code.Mar 01 23:27
twitterohm again.Mar 01 23:27
twitterUbuntu could have left Banshee on the curb, where it belongs.Mar 01 23:27
oiaohmProblem is rythombox is also having the same alteration.  twitterMar 01 23:28
twitterThe problem, if there is one in a free software world where you can change what you want, is that Amazon was getting a big boost.Mar 01 23:28
oiaohmUbuntu move is basically any project that funds itself with advertisement is a risk.Mar 01 23:28
oiaohmReally I know its possible to create proxies to rewrite adertising as well.Mar 01 23:29
oiaohmMy problem is the others might try.  twitterMar 01 23:30
twitterIf Canonical, (which has yet to break even?) wants to be generous towards Gnome, they can make donations on their own terms, not be forced to carry every dinky affiliate program spam.Mar 01 23:30
oiaohmtwitter: same arguement that lead to iceweasel on debian.Mar 01 23:31
twitterso?Mar 01 23:31
twitterfree software does what users wantMar 01 23:31
oiaohmNow is Ubuntu taking advantage of Banshee branding to assist sales of there product.Mar 01 23:32
oiaohmAnswer yes.Mar 01 23:32
oiaohmPrice of using branding is normally having to pay for it in some form.Mar 01 23:33
twitterthe branding is mostly negative, ohm, don't be so easily spunMar 01 23:33
oiaohmCorrect way would have been simple.Mar 01 23:33
oiaohmUbuntu fork banshee if it did not like the pay ammount.Mar 01 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] just to clarify,I have no problem wrt the !Debian SID last-kernel-problem,I just use previous one.Just trying to warn ppl about possible bugMar 01 23:34
twitterthe correct thing would be to have avoided mono and the Microsoft employees that wrote it.Mar 01 23:34
oiaohmSame with rythombox.Mar 01 23:34
twitterWhen you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Mar 01 23:34
twitterHeh, love this comment, " what is this about running the numbers and seeing what funds that will be diverted?  Ubuntu never used Banshee, therefore there are zero funds being diverted from Gnome, unless you wish to tow the line of RIAA et al."Mar 01 23:36
twitterWell, well.  Pushing Amazon is towing the RIAA line.Mar 01 23:36
twitterThe Banshee people are also pushing a Microsoft line, that software owners have some kind of control of code and that users have a moral obligation to do as they are told.  Mar 01 23:37
oiaohmUbuntu altered was the Rythombox and Banshee links for Amazon purchases.Mar 01 23:37
twitterGood work too1Mar 01 23:37
twitter!Mar 01 23:37
oiaohmTo be correct.  Ammarok made it very clear.  Go near there paid stores and Ubuntu will have big trouble.Mar 01 23:38
twitterI have not seen an Amarok paid store, what are you talking about?Mar 01 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Republicans say no to federal funding for #abortion, but yes to giving $3B to #Israel to kill #Palestinians. Alrighty then.Mar 01 23:39
oiaohmAmarok includes a lot of purchase music options drm free but watermarked of course.  twitterMar 01 23:40
oiaohmAnd those purchases do directly fund Amarok development.Mar 01 23:40
twitterLike I said, I have not seen that on Squeeze.Mar 01 23:41
oiaohmIts there.Mar 01 23:41
twitterTo me, it looks like a normal music manager.Mar 01 23:41
twitterhmmm, time to look.Mar 01 23:41
oiaohmAmarok knows they are a music player first.Mar 01 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE #Libya Despite what Jeremy Bowen said about Gaddafi the BBC persists in talking about him as if he were a clown. BBC #failMar 01 23:42
oiaohmBut they do include ways to purchase music that will go back to fund Amarok.Mar 01 23:42
oiaohmeven debian leaves it alone.  Since its not a tracking thing or anything nasty.  Only activates if you go and use it.Mar 01 23:43
twitterI got local music, streams, playlists and files.  Where's the store?  I'm in a hurry to give 90% of my money to Amzaon!Mar 01 23:43
lightpriesthttp://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/03/internet-explorer-share-surges-firefox-wanes-with-new-cia-data.arsMar 01 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Explorer share surges, Firefox wanes based on new CIA data .::. Size~: 32.11 KBMar 01 23:44
lightpriestI don't get this silly reportMar 01 23:44
lightpriestif Net Applications say the new calculation should give Internet Explorer a boost, how is 0.77 considered a boost?Mar 01 23:45
neighborleeoiaohm, If the story was that banshee had MS employees , blah,now that woudl be news..beyond that I dunno ;) < ive been out of linux news lately, been hugely busy>Mar 01 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE #Libya I would advise people to watch the full version of the Bowen interview.Mar 01 23:45
twitterI've got cool streams, last fm (RIAA taxed), libivox, magnatune and a podcast directory.  Is there some opportunity to give my money to enemies of free software that I'm missing here?Mar 01 23:46
lightpriestIE should be even lower then what it was, the new demographic data just kept it from dropping even more..Mar 01 23:46
twitterNovell employees are Microsoft employees if you follow the money.Mar 01 23:46
twitter0.77% is thermal noise.Mar 01 23:51
twitterLOL, "[according to the CIA]  Western Europe—where Firefox has its highest usage rates—now represents a smaller share of the global Internet audience. This change should give Internet Explorer a one-off boost at Firefox's expense."Mar 01 23:52
twitterNet Applications and Ars Technia, sigh.Mar 01 23:54
oiaohmtwitter: Ok I cannot remember where the interface is for megatunes that is the store tha feeds amarok but I can still prove its existance.Mar 01 23:54
twitterSo, you are telling me the magnatunes store is somewhere in Amarok?Mar 01 23:54
oiaohmtwitter: Settings->Configure Amarok   Then internet services.  twitterMar 01 23:54
oiaohmYes it is somewhere in Amarok.  twitterMar 01 23:55
twitterWell, there is a "sign up" button on the Magnatunes tab.Mar 01 23:55
oiaohmI can lead you to the option to turn it off not use it.Mar 01 23:55
oiaohmYep there is the amarok store of you.  twitterMar 01 23:55
oiaohmYou agree not very invasive.Mar 01 23:56
twitterNot a penny goes to the RIAA.Mar 01 23:56
twitter10% of initial payment goes to Amarok.  50% of membership payment goes to artist.  After sign up, you enter the membership number in Amarok settings.Mar 01 23:57
twitterThat's something I might do, thanks Ohm.Mar 01 23:58
oiaohmAnd if Ubuntu dares attempt to touch that they are dead.Mar 01 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @silner RT @popey: The !Ubuntu Community Council discussed the !banshee !gnome "issue" today. It makes interesting reading http://pop ...Mar 01 23:59
oiaohmReally megatunes is unlikely todo a deal with Ubuntu.Mar 01 23:59
twitterI'm not sure Ubuntu would bother.  There's nothing objectionable about Magnatune. Mar 01 23:59
oiaohmOther than its money.Mar 01 23:59
twitterMoney is not offensive, Amazon is.Mar 01 23:59

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