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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: Telling a group of rich people you'll stop standing up for the principles you once espoused[..]to raise funds from them is corruptJun 20 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "The best things in life aren't things" - Derek Sivers, CDBaby founder !q > http://sivers.org/Jun 20 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @marjoleink: good night / usiku mwema dear Laconicats! -- lala salama dada!Jun 20 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The best things in life, aren't things.Jun 20 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] good night good people of the world, see you tomorrow with the sun as our compatriot. peace!Jun 20 01:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Fedora based #Amahi home server getting fantastic review on #LAS http://is.gd/nbgD23 #FOSS !LinuxJun 20 01:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @_matilda__ RT @anonops_live #anonymous : So you still think the internet is free...: http://yuxiyou.net/ http://opennet.net/Jun 20 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @mariwell: @lxoliva Qual a política do governo @tarsogenro quanto ao #softwarelivre? Vote, no #gabinetedigital http://migre.me/55eYFJun 20 01:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana the mastermind behind the Open Source fork, later kicked out of the organization he co-founded to promote !FS without freedomJun 20 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @lxoliva both have measures 2 prevent or limit history rewriting. Svn req's admin access 4some ops+Git has some crypto. @kevingranade @bkuhnJun 20 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #security seems to be a bigger issues with each passing day; now MtGox #bitcoin http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2671441Jun 20 02:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] forgot to mention; also #Sega got compromisedJun 20 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana I am in awe of your deep knowledge of GPLv3 arcana. And I love the reference to magic invocations in footnote 17.Jun 20 03:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @tekk "... bashes his head against the keyboard until dents occur."Jun 20 03:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Is there any meaningful difference between weak copyleft and permissive license in a monkey-patchable language such as !ruby ? !fsfJun 20 03:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke ah fn 17 of Pt I. Can't believe @rms let my sarcasm stand. Guess who I was "picking on" 4+ years before being told not to cc: @bkuhnJun 20 03:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @ Are you saying @bkuhn is having @mindspillage?Jun 20 03:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @copiesofcopies ALL CAPS: it's what lawyers crave.Jun 20 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @lxoliva Effort.Jun 20 03:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Nikoo. http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/Nikoo Wall of urgent upbeat melodic noise. !Jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SAJun 20 03:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @clacke lolwasJun 20 03:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke In 1997 I was a teaching assistant for university undergraduates and remember noting with shock that they all had mobile phones.Jun 20 03:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Oh, I know understood there are several fn 16. Didn't realize "Part II" wasn't whole pdf. Fn 16 of Pt II really makes things clear.Jun 20 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @clacke hmm....maybe I'll try that. thanks!(may already be what x11r5 does, if it's a bot)Jun 20 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Wow, so our two anecdotes indicate .us was ahead of .se in mobile phone adoption. I'd never have thunk it. Need to research .fi.Jun 20 03:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke in 1999 saw performance of #Brigadoon : in NY city scene everyone talking on mobiles, meant to be funny - today surely wouldn't beJun 20 03:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke of possible relevance, this was in NY city. Not sure, maybe students were what was relevant. As for me, didn't have mobile till 2004Jun 20 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I'm kind of afraid that at the end of this all I will have is a single picture left.Jun 20 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke Final anecdote: Dan #Ravicher made fun of my primitive-looking #Nokia phone in late 2005 when I started working at #SFLC cc: @bkuhnJun 20 03:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana In 2003 I still had my 1998 phone (#Ericsson GH688), and had even added an even more retro-looking 10 cm rubber antenna. :-)Jun 20 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana I guess my current phone is the only one since my first that doesn't look slightly outdated. :-) OS is outdated though (Andr v2.1).Jun 20 04:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] #LCA2012 is now calling for Mini-Conf submissions, looking forward to seeing them! https://linux.conf.auJun 20 04:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] Example of #Internet #libel abuse by an #anonymous remailer troll in a #Linux Usenet group: http://v.gd/og6nPKJun 20 04:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] #LCA2012 is now calling for Mini-Conf submissions, looking forward to seeing them! http://linux.conf.auJun 20 04:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Interview with WikiLeaks spokesman over US financial embargo http://t.co/FymhvcxJun 20 04:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 225 million downloads on 2011-06-20 03:57 UTCJun 20 05:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pretty cool wifi-WPA/WEP key to qr code generator; for all those hard to key in keys - http://keremerkan.net/qr-code-and-2d-code-generator/Jun 20 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @climagic echo {a..z}{a..z}{a..z} # Generate a list of all 3 letter combinations.Jun 20 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fantastic! On CC license? RT @lucian Data.gov.sg launches today!Jun 20 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @hamide @mfat :)))) Ask and ye shall receive, Google and ye shall discover.Jun 20 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @hamide @mfat "Hi to you too" says god almighty, "My humblest creature on earth ever, I have given you Google, utilize my blessing an ...Jun 20 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @eebrah #stallmanfacts "Richard Stallman doesn't read web pages. They write to him" cc @nj3ma @fredmsnglis @kelzOKO @RamanusAsangoJun 20 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] #stallmanfacts RMS means "RMS means Stallman" http://www.stallmanfacts.com/view/225Jun 20 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Carrefour supermarkets in #Bucharest offer a lot of #Ubuntu laptops, especially #Lenovo. BRAVO! http://ubuntu.ro/ #linux #software #romaniaJun 20 07:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Laptops and Desktop Unique http://tinyurl.com/5ub9n4c #gnu #linux #meegoJun 20 07:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Formally Launching the MeeGo Community Device Program http://tinyurl.com/627r677 #gnu #linux #meegoJun 20 07:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Metal Free Software Song hits YouTube: http://is.gd/07lA6c http://is.gd/v14kg1 http://is.gd/qaT1zi - we need a music vid, want to make one?Jun 20 07:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bobobex: Wishes @corenominal very good luck today for his new job as a paid PHP developer!Jun 20 07:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @nj3ma Oh, I misread you first and was going to point you to http://ur1.ca/4haff , created by http://futurist.se/gldt/ folks. #gldtJun 20 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @nj3ma Now I understand you're actually looking for FLOSS software useful for human genealogy. Don't know any, above might still be useful?Jun 20 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @nj3ma What does genealogy software provide, apart from visualization of trees?Jun 20 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Dorin Chirtoacă, de la "Surprize, surprize" la Primăria Chişinăului http://tinyurl.com/5wdnjfj #moldova #romania #chisinau #politicsJun 20 07:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] I like the silence before the stormJun 20 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Tableta #Motorola #Xoom se vinde pe galeria de la #Carrefour #Băneasa http://tinyurl.com/6de6joc EXCELENT Motorola ! #androidJun 20 08:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Listening to "The Healing Prayer" by Bruce Benson, with Clarence on sax: http://outl.ws/20 #BigMan !EStreetJun 20 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Here's to the biggest man you've ever seen, Master of the Universe, Minister of Soul! http://ur1.ca/4haj8Jun 20 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ce impune eticheta în prezența membrilor Casei Regale de România http://tinyurl.com/3tznhqa #romania #monarchy #etiquette #kingJun 20 08:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ultraturquoise: Late R.I.P. Clarence Clemons :(Jun 20 08:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] U2's tribute to the #BigMan in Anaheim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5HzSYgq2YJun 20 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] De ce se schimbă drapelul pe Palatul Elisabeta. De când flutură Pavilioanele Regale http://tinyurl.com/694zq2t #romania #monarchy #mihaiJun 20 08:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Back at desk after 2 weeks of travel. Mountains of backlog await. Will have to wait a little longer, as big news due any sec on fsfe.orgJun 20 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: First 'suit with trainers'. What is wrong with these idiots?Jun 20 08:40
schestowitzInteresting new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVedVe31CKA&feature=dgst_fri&playnext=1&list=TL1sLGayVKVMs&force_ap=1Jun 20 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Personally, I hope the Internet never "grows up". We don't need another realm of mediocrity.Jun 20 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @grifferz: GBVault is another one: openly spams and can't even get a BCC right. "X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0"Jun 20 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Am I the only one there see a strange picture here #Linux :-) http://ur1.ca/4havwJun 20 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Battle for control of embedded devices is on: AVM fighting Linux kernel's GPL http://ur1.ca/4hapf !fsfe !fsf !gnuJun 20 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] An Apology http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/an-apology/Jun 20 09:10
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amarsh04oops, forgot to install the patch for 3.0-rc3 Jun 20 09:10
amarsh04AVM as in the Fritzbox?Jun 20 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #VIDEO ASR Principesa Margareta a României: „Suntem pregătiți pentru restaurarea Monarhiei” http://tinyurl.com/3pkkb8j #romania #monarchyJun 20 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Bitcoin prices plummet on hacked exchange - http://bit.ly/mObWaR you couldn't make this stuff up...Jun 20 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Planting forests won't stop global warming - http://bit.ly/kL00XL that's a pity #climatechange #treesJun 20 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @rrix and the owncloud folks are not fedora community members?Jun 20 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Awesome intro on how to use #rubyonrails and #omniauth together. http://www.communityguides.eu/articles/16 !rubyJun 20 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Brazilian cyber cafés still matter - http://tnw.co/lOzhbg useful reminder of realities of #net access in developing countries #brazilJun 20 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] uTorrent / BitTorrent Sued For Patent Infringement - http://bit.ly/iKjvFA "case could have a disastrous impact on the #BitTorrent landscape"Jun 20 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @karsten: Battle for control of embedded devices is on: AVM fighting Linux kernel's GPL http://ur1.ca/4hapfJun 20 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Post-Artifact Books & #Publishing - http://bit.ly/kZuEff wonderful meditation on the future of the book - & of writing #ebooks #sharingJun 20 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @karsten Battle for control of embedded devices is on: AVM fighting Linux kernel's GPL http://ur1.ca/4hapf !fsfe !fsf !gnuJun 20 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I was never really happy with my Fritzbox, but this is best excuse to switch to more freedom-loving router. http://is.gd/zPxavy #fail, AVM.Jun 20 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Access by Numbers - http://bit.ly/ij2sfV so, how big is #openaccess really?Jun 20 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Right to #Privacy in Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP ) Negotiations - http://bit.ly/iEKkcH US trying to steamroller #acta 2.0 through #tppaJun 20 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Adobe Drops AIR for Linux, Says Android is the New Desktop http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/adobe-drops-air-for-linux/Jun 20 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @rrix which means that their kde packaging should install on fedora, isn't?Jun 20 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix aren't we all equal in a way?Jun 20 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Newest: The Shame on the Internet: #ICANN Votes to Massively Enrich the Domain-Industrial Complex - http://bit.ly/j6cUt9 yup: a disgraceJun 20 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Where is best and cheapest source for 1.75 mm PLA in Europe?Jun 20 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @thynctank: "... don't forget #Gordon, the !Javascript #swf interpreter!" -- It's official, Javascript will rule the worldJun 20 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] .....and it's raining again.Jun 20 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fontana: well, there you are then...Jun 20 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @Mwanikigreen #kenyan monin radio nid 2 luk 4 positive,creative topics besides sex. suprisingly, #Dickchoppin tragedy stil makin airplayJun 20 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Is the "Nexus 4G" Google's Next Flagship Phone? http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/nexus-4g/Jun 20 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @grmpyoldman: That's why they did not want to support !Freifunk – @schmelle2 had even asked #AVM! http://is.gd/zPxavy #GPLJun 20 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jacques Attali taille en pièces la campagne #Hadopi - http://bit.ly/k2Z04D good to seeJun 20 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #unhosted in a tweet: Login + data = your identity, your data where YOU want it, not where app likes it.Jun 20 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #unhosted explained. Take the 35 minutes and you will also be excited. http://vimeo.com/25307195Jun 20 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Microsoft's Purchase of Skype Approved by FTC http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/skype-purchase-approved-by-ftc/Jun 20 10:16
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tessierSeason's geekings!Jun 20 10:17
MinceRseasoned geeklings!Jun 20 10:17
tessierom nom nomJun 20 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Microsoft's Purchase of Skype Approved by FTC http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/skype-purchase-approved-by-ftc/Jun 20 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Is the "Nexus 4G" Google's Next Flagship Phone? http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/nexus-4g/Jun 20 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @LinuxUserMag: RT @greenlinux: Firefox 5 Ready To Launch: Why It Matters. #Firefox http://bit.ly/krUjEKJun 20 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Adobe Drops AIR for Linux, Says Android is the New Desktop http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/adobe-drops-air-for-linux/Jun 20 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Hey, that cracker group's nickname is the same as my old password! #1337Jun 20 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Ice http://xkcd.com/914/Jun 20 10:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Build a file sharing application with our new CakePHP tutorial: http://bit.ly/k1lXjKJun 20 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ZDNetUK_News: Report: Skype execs depart ahead of Microsoft merger http://bit.ly/jSCyZw #skype #microsoft #entryism #failureJun 20 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] botnet #bitcoin mining not profitable (relatively) a t m. http://ur1.ca/4hbbm If they start, it will soon become unprofitable again, so.Jun 20 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Ad Bard, The Advertising Network Serving FOSS Only Ads, is Shutting Down http://goo.gl/b2dMqJun 20 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] #AVM trying to get court to take away freedom #GPL grants any third party: http://bit.ly/l9jN2GJun 20 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @louismallow: I am driving to !oggcamp from Oxfordshire. Anyone near that route need a lift?Jun 20 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @laforge: #AVM trying to get court to take away freedom #GPL grants any third party: http://bit.ly/l9jN2GJun 20 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] http://bit.ly/liBufJ contains time + address for #AVM #GPL #Linux court case tomorrow. If you are in berlin you might wnat to check it out!Jun 20 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 410 has been released: http://goo.gl/mGr9P This week's feature story: What's cooking? It's #SliTazJun 20 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @laforge http://bit.ly/liBufJ contains time + address for #AVM #GPL #Linux court case tomorrow. If you are in berlin you might wnat t ...Jun 20 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IPv6 Test Day, part 1 http://is.gd/pimaCX #tcpip #ipv6 #software #gnu #linux #centosJun 20 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IPv6 Test Day, part 2 http://is.gd/kvS9oc #tcpip #ipv6 #software #gnu #linux #centosJun 20 10:41
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*amarsh04 put up links for AVM GPL violation information on fsfe.org on whirlpool.net.au and groklaw.net, submitted as a news pick to groklaw.netJun 20 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @kirschner: Dear #AVM: The license terms of the !gnu #gpl are not optional #gplviolation http://l.fsfe.org/avmJun 20 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Brewing more coffee as it is badly needed...Jun 20 10:45
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amarsh04I need to write something to accan.org.au about ADSL hardware vendors including ISP's not fully complying with the GPLJun 20 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jukkaeklund: MeeGo 1.2 Community Edition, what's it about? Fact sheet: http://t.co/vP9kYeH #MeeGo #N900Jun 20 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: #MeeGo & #Maemo Weekly News for Monday, 20 Jun 2011 out now: http://www.mwkn.net/ #n900Jun 20 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LulzSec is just random.Jun 20 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @fabsh: LulzSec is just random « Beginning to look that way, certainlyJun 20 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolabsys Prefer !GNOME !Evolution as your !Kolab client? Join the two-week issue hunt in the #Kolab backend Release Candidate: http: ...Jun 20 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RandomLulzJun 20 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LexisNexis joins Linux Foundation, open sources HPCC platform - http://bit.ly/liHhOh but note non-open shenanigans in last paragraphJun 20 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Dr. Willy Mutunga sworn in as Chief Justice !KenyaJun 20 11:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] HTC in Hot Water Over Sense UI Troubles http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/htc-sense-ui-troubles/Jun 20 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forestry Commission GIS datasets available - http://bit.ly/kr4tat but under restrictive licence (v @moldaviax) #opendataJun 20 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Is Ubuntu on the way out? Will a new wave of distros take over? Give us your opinions for our podcast! http://tinyurl.com/3hrfz95Jun 20 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Republicans cut short #Obama impersonator http://is.gd/fG5tfN lolJun 20 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will Bolivia make the breakthrough on #food security and the #environment? - http://bit.ly/lVoZdM v interesting stuff - hope it succeedsJun 20 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An Attack that Goes to the Heart of Free Software - http://bit.ly/lR9RFf German court case that could have v serious repercussions 4 freeswJun 20 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Countries Beginning to Officially Oppose Three Strikes Laws http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/countries-oppose-three-strikes-laws/Jun 20 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Distribution Release: Webconverger 8.0 http://bit.ly/k6YwCj « Seems like a kind of ChromOS clone?Jun 20 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] If and when you can, look up #webGL, #webCL, #jsmad, @fredmanglisJun 20 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @lxnews: Countries Beginning to Officially Oppose Three Strikes Laws http://bit.ly/j5ttlTJun 20 11:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] !rubyonrails actions are #rack apps in their own right and routes.rb is mostly sugar? That is so awesome I think I just had an aneurysm.Jun 20 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] AVM Attacking the Very Foundations of Free Software http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/avm-attacking-free-software/Jun 20 11:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British Library Encloses the Public Domain - http://bit.ly/mKW9vr why the deal with Google takes more than it gives #pd #commons #blJun 20 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO !Bonn ♺ @lxnews: AVM Attacking the Very Foundations of Free Software http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/avm-attacking-free-software/Jun 20 11:50
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*amarsh04 just emailed fsfe.org about a typo in their press releaseJun 20 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten RT @laforge http://bit.ly/liBufJ contains time + address for #AVM #GPL #Linux court case tomorrow. If you are in berlin you ...Jun 20 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @laforge http://bit.ly/liBufJ contains time + address for #AVM #GPL #Linux court case tomorrow. If you are in Berlin...Jun 20 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @hamide @mfat "Hi to you too" says god almighty, "My humblest creature on earth ever, I have given you Google, utilize my blessing an ...Jun 20 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @lxnews Thanks for adding the FRITZ!Box note in the summary for us #lazy people. Saw @laforge's post and was wondering who AVM are! :-)Jun 20 11:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Naskia watu wanalia lia mara ohh @nj3ma hashiki simu,ooh imekuwa habit,na mnamjua niko works na kampuni si ya nyanyangu.Huyu hapa mimi sasaJun 20 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Semeni shida zenyu sasaJun 20 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma tuko na @fredmanglis huko #nairobilugJun 20 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Lawyers In Hell – Book Review Part One - http://bit.ly/iAY4eE #lawyersinhell #goodreads #fantasy #bookreviewJun 20 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Na hii Seesmic na Twitter ilileta ubloody fucking ya reauthenicate kila mara baada ya update #failJun 20 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Mara @iddsalim amekuwa dorm captain/prefect wa Twitter anadai watu walale..Jun 20 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Mara ati yeye [@iddsalim] anadai ye ni mzii mpaka Stach hakuvaa kaptula alivaa dungaree na Griffin hakumshow any...Jun 20 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fabsh ♺ @laforge http://bit.ly/liBufJ contains time + address for #AVM #GPL #Linux court case tomorrow. If you are in Berlin...Jun 20 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @laforge #AVM trying to get court to take away freedom #GPL grants any third party: http://bit.ly/l9jN2GJun 20 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @glynmoody An Attack that Goes to the Heart of Free Software - http://bit.ly/lR9RFf German court case that could have v serious reper ...Jun 20 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Mara ati niliita mafilm maker wa Kenya mahomosexual kwa interview yangu ya BBC...Jun 20 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "An Attack that Goes to the Heart of !freesoftware" http://ur1.ca/4hc7k by @glynmoody !fsfeJun 20 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Background information on #avm 's #gpl violation case are available here http://ur1.ca/4hc9e !fsfeJun 20 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Artikel auf #golem "!FSFE wirft #AVM die Verletzung der #GPL vor" http://ur1.ca/4hca6Jun 20 13:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Adobe Cuts Off Linux's AIR - 'and Nothing of Value Was Lost' http://bit.ly/le9QxB #linuxJun 20 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] iPhone users get paid for small, location-based tasks http://bit.ly/iuccHKJun 20 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @karsten: Battle for control of embedded devices is on: AVM fighting Linux kernel's GPL http://ur1.ca/4hapf #fsfe #fsf #gnuJun 20 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The Flowerpot Sessions: A music hackathon | http://red.ht/jU9DE3 #collaborationJun 20 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @methoddan Want to show your support for !oggcamp? Check out these awesome website badges - http://oggcamp.org/promotion !loJun 20 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I see the dentica is back. :-)Jun 20 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @tante Und draussen geht die Welt unter … #RegencontentJun 20 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Michiel de Jong talks about !unhosted. Donate today or get in touch with @unhosted to share your vision: http://www.vimeo.com/25307195Jun 20 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @bkuhn @fontana, are you saying that you recommend the !AGPL instead for #Javascript libraries? If not, why are you suddenly anti-cop ...Jun 20 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I see another Fontana/Kuhn dialogue is ongoing.Jun 20 14:06
schestowitzamarsh04: which press releaseJun 20 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] You Can Change The World - http://bit.ly/kDZHb4 it's good to come across someone so *positive*...Jun 20 14:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fish don't know they're in water http://ur1.ca/4hcn1Jun 20 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @evan ICANN haz top-level domains? #hawhawhawJun 20 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] LulzSec announces Operation Anti-Security http://pastebin.com/9KyA0E5vJun 20 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] shock horror: Windows increases its market share of top500 #supercomputers by 20% - http://bit.ly/kwgCwM (i.e. from 5 to 6...)Jun 20 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Malware Targeting Custom Android ROMs http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/malware-targeting-custom-roms/Jun 20 14:15
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amarsh04schestowitz: http://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20110620-01.en.htmlJun 20 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Easier to hoax #journalists? http://is.gd/tZY94a of course, journalists have turned into copiers & pasters of #PR, they no longer researchJun 20 14:30
schestowitzOh, I don't want to touch thoseJun 20 14:30
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schestowitzToo much enforcement is used as GPL FUD at the endJun 20 14:30
schestowitzThere's enough of that FUD alreadyJun 20 14:30
schestowitzIIRC, the console feature in vsphere is also a GPL violation (or was)Jun 20 14:30
schestowitzI used it a lot over the weekendJun 20 14:31
schestowitzmessed up opensips serverJun 20 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we need news organisations who shun journalists in favour of reporters, maybe then the public would see stuff they need to see #fbJun 20 14:31
MinceRi mostly just attempt to use the console feature in vsphere, since all of vmware's consoles are unusableJun 20 14:32
schestowitzMinceR: I like how this one tells me when another person is on itJun 20 14:32
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schestowitzAnd then I can see other admins weighing in when I struggle a littleJun 20 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dreaming of a Real Patent Reform http://ur1.ca/4hcrj #uspto #monopoly #patent #monopoly #reformJun 20 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I doubt many of todays "professional journalists" would cut the grade as "reporters", they'd have to resign themselves to be bloggersJun 20 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Dreaming of a Real Patent Reform http://ur1.ca/4hcrj #protectionism #banking #patenttroll #exclusionismJun 20 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FSFE on AVM v. Cybits http://lwn.net/Articles/448427/rssJun 20 14:33
schestowitzThis one machine keeps panicking and going R-O, inode issuesJun 20 14:33
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oiaohmReally the router makers are fools.Jun 20 14:33
oiaohmthe better path would have ben dmca voliation.Jun 20 14:33
oiaohmAnd go no where near the GPL.Jun 20 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @lwnnet FSFE on AVM v. Cybits http://lwn.net/Articles/448427/rssJun 20 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Completely Free Wireless Hardware Released http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/completely-free-wireless-hardware/Jun 20 14:35
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amarsh04OpenNetworks and Gigaset have been GPL voilators alsoJun 20 14:35
amarsh04violators evenJun 20 14:35
amarsh04AVM welded the car bonnet shut to avoid someone bypassing the emission controlsJun 20 14:37
oiaohmamarsh04: gplv2 that the Linux kernel is does not forbid welding the bonnet shut.Jun 20 14:39
oiaohmamarsh04: just forbids keeping the code secret.Jun 20 14:39
amarsh04true, but the firmware is user-upgradableJun 20 14:39
ender_33oiaohm whats wrong with router makersJun 20 14:40
oiaohmhttp://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20110620-01.en.html  << AVM rounter maker to be exact.  ender_33Jun 20 14:40
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oiaohmamarsh04: Yep place a TPM chip that requires signed firmware in the router no more problems.Jun 20 14:41
oiaohmamarsh04: No GPL legal problems either.Jun 20 14:42
oiaohmBasically AVM is a complete idiot.Jun 20 14:42
amarsh04even if the code was proprietary, hardware makers should have the source code in escrow available if the company goes bustJun 20 14:42
oiaohmThere are legal ways to weld bonnets shut.Jun 20 14:43
amarsh04Gigaset requires signed firmware and only supplies a linux-x86-32 binary of the code signerJun 20 14:43
MinceRit shouldn't be legally required to weld them shutJun 20 14:43
amarsh04yes, but they make the problem a lot clearerJun 20 14:43
MinceRone can still cut them open anywayJun 20 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] wow, Forza Motorsport 4 looks impressive... makes Gran Turismo 5 feel like a just a 'driving simulator'Jun 20 14:43
MinceRit's just security theaterJun 20 14:43
amarsh04they used to weld them shut claiming compliance with Austel/ACMA (in .au) or FCC (in .us) requirements (dial-up modems, wireless hardware)Jun 20 14:44
oiaohmMinceR: hey my point of view if someone wants to weld the bonnet shut what other evil are they trying to hide.Jun 20 14:44
amarsh04like spying on youJun 20 14:44
oiaohmamarsh04: Yar right.Jun 20 14:44
oiaohmAustel and ACMA never required them welded shut.Jun 20 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Post-MacDefender, #Linux Looks Better Than Ever http://bit.ly/kCQ7S6Jun 20 14:45
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oiaohmGet you history correct.  Telstra use to require it before Austel and ACMA existed.  amarsh04Jun 20 14:45
amarsh04Austel went through claiming that modem suppliers had to get separate approval for new modem firmware that supported higher connect speedJun 20 14:45
amarsh04it was Telecom back thenJun 20 14:45
amarsh04Telstra post-dated AustelJun 20 14:45
oiaohmAustel got the claims Telstra has placed on the table before Austel was formed.Jun 20 14:46
oiaohmAustel was the ones that dropped the stupidity.Jun 20 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kyrgyz parliament orders blocking of news website of record - http://bit.ly/mw1vap shameless copying of US, France, UK etc... #censorshipJun 20 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] for some reason I'm reminded of http://shirtoid.com/25011/rock-em-sock-em-robots/ when another @fontana @bkuhn "debate" breaks outJun 20 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] LexisNexis joins Linux Foundation, open sources HPCC platform http://bit.ly/kRMgbaJun 20 14:46
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amarsh04after defending stupidity vigorously for a whileJun 20 14:47
amarsh04I see Johanna Plante (ex Austel "Member") occasionally at workJun 20 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fontana noticed #unhosted is #agpl licensed. wanted to know after your earlier statement.Jun 20 14:50
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oiaohmamarsh04: Yes new to job you make some mistakes.Jun 20 14:51
oiaohmACMA is saner.Jun 20 14:51
amarsh04I still call Chris Chapman out on claiming that Telstra's Carrier Licence was on the dbcde.gov.au web site - it wasn't and isn'tJun 20 14:52
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amarsh04ACMA still put a deaf person's presentation at a hearing online in audio-only flash 10 formatJun 20 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Software Patents Hurt uTorrent, GoDaddy, Internet Phones, and More http://ur1.ca/4hcx3 #godaddy #torrent #skype #swpats #monopolyJun 20 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Skype Executives Depart After Microsoft Buyout http://bit.ly/lVT4ffJun 20 14:53
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oiaohmamarsh04: Yep I really don't know where the telstra carrier paperwork is lost.Jun 20 14:54
oiaohmamarsh04: I am supprised none of the other carriers have called this on telstra.Jun 20 14:55
amarsh04I have paper copies now... two signed by Kim Beazley and one signed by Richard Alston - took long enough for dbcde to find themJun 20 14:55
oiaohmTechically telstra should not be able to trade without it in the open register.Jun 20 14:55
oiaohmThat is the rules of course.Jun 20 14:55
oiaohmThat is why I am supprised no other carrier has pulled it on telstra.Jun 20 14:56
amarsh04I think that they failed to put on line the most fundamental documents, only claims that Telstra was in fact licencedJun 20 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !IdentiverseJun 20 14:56
amarsh04Senator Nick Minchin claimed that the licence documents did not existJun 20 14:56
amarsh04I emailed Kim Beazley about it and received a replyJun 20 14:57
oiaohmamarsh04: last of the austel rules created has the requirement for them to be placed online.Jun 20 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Nominate your favorite CC artists on Jamendo thru July 10: http://contests.jamendo.com/en/jamendoAwards2011Jun 20 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @creativecommons Nominate your favorite CC artists on Jamendo thru July 10: http://contests.jamendo.com/en/jamendoAwards2011Jun 20 14:58
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oiaohmYes someone at acma and austel needs a good ass kicking.  amarsh04Jun 20 14:58
amarsh04that's good to hear, but some of the features of the sites internal search systems leaves one using Google insteadJun 20 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Bitcoin Troubles http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/bitcoin-troubles/Jun 20 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] As per kawa,traffic on Landhies going into town is a person that has sexual intercourse with female parent.Jun 20 15:00
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amarsh04I couldn't find an ACMA determination on-line on ACMA's web site once recently. There were documents that kept referring to it, but unless you knew the correct URL you couldn't find the link to the document on another gov.au web siteJun 20 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Windows' Endgame. Desktop #Linux's Failure http://zd.net/jgoXZlJun 20 15:01
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amarsh04it's a bit like a properly organised  and catalogued library with clear shelf labelling and friendly librarians versus a dingy storeroom of heavily boxed and stacked items in random arrangementsJun 20 15:02
amarsh04<hhgttg>plans being on display</hhgttg>Jun 20 15:04
oiaohmamarsh04: Yep I know the problem.Jun 20 15:05
oiaohmI am currently doing my open cablers license.  I have finally got sick of having to call a cablier.Jun 20 15:06
amarsh04I had that kind of fun finding the Bell 212A 1200 bps modem standardJun 20 15:06
oiaohmThen having to correct them on proper wiring.Jun 20 15:06
amarsh04sounds like a good idea. Must look out for a safe work at heights course alsoJun 20 15:07
oiaohmCat 5 + 240 cable wrapped around it does not work well for some reason.Jun 20 15:07
amarsh04no...Jun 20 15:07
oiaohmSerousally I had a case of that from a open cabler who is now struck off.Jun 20 15:08
oiaohmFun was the induction.Jun 20 15:08
oiaohmSo killing everything connected to either end of that cable.Jun 20 15:09
amarsh04negotiating LAPM/BTLZ or MNP4/BTLZ in a modem required a few pages from Microcom (buried somewhere in this room)Jun 20 15:09
amarsh04nickname the cabler "Henry"Jun 20 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reference page on #MPEGLA has just been added to !techrights http://ur1.ca/4hd1fJun 20 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Reference page on MPEG-LA has just been added to #techrights http://ur1.ca/4hd1fJun 20 15:10
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oiaohmWarning sign is when you find a dead rat that looks like it just bit a cat 5 cable.Jun 20 15:10
amarsh04240 V in the cat 5 cable?Jun 20 15:10
oiaohmBasically its lucky it did not kill someone.Jun 20 15:10
oiaohmInduction from the 240Jun 20 15:11
amarsh04ah, rightJun 20 15:11
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oiaohmit was doing somewhere around 5 volts at about 8 amp.Jun 20 15:11
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oiaohmYes remember that is more than enough to kill.Jun 20 15:12
oiaohmAlso explains why network cards and switchs would kinda die instantly.Jun 20 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Chrome suggests #chrome to open #WebGL content it can not open: "We are sorry, but it appears that your browser does not support WebGL."Jun 20 15:13
oiaohmNote about was just a rough reading.Jun 20 15:13
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oiaohmCould have been way higher at different times.Jun 20 15:13
amarsh04voltage could vary wildly depending on the resistance of the loadJun 20 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle v. #Google - Posturing Over Damages - http://bit.ly/lstBkN heavy legal dox purveyed by #groklaw for your persualJun 20 15:15
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oiaohmamarsh04: basically once it was confirmed to be in human killer range it was basically enought to cut the power and basically fix quick.Jun 20 15:16
oiaohmamarsh04: so lot of reading were not bothered with.Jun 20 15:16
oiaohmIe it should not happen.Jun 20 15:17
oiaohmTwisted pair prevent induction unless do do something completely nuts and wrap the cable around the other cable.Jun 20 15:17
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amarsh04indeed... techs should know what causes induction and interference, even if they don't understand Maxwell's equationsJun 20 15:18
oiaohmBasically after that I kinda don't trust cablers any more and more trust myself.Jun 20 15:18
oiaohmI had 8 different close calls.Jun 20 15:19
amarsh04bad news... any electrician that caused those kind of problems would lose their jobJun 20 15:19
oiaohmScarry enough with 8 different qualified cablers.Jun 20 15:19
oiaohmThese guys lost their jobs.  amarsh04Jun 20 15:20
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amarsh04one needs the right mindset for the job, safety, checking functionality, avoiding bad practicesJun 20 15:20
oiaohmamarsh04: That sounds like me.Jun 20 15:21
oiaohmamarsh04: I do high secuirty network design.Jun 20 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Someone please list all the authority figures in !fs who are beyond criticism. As an outsider I need to know.Jun 20 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Nokia Settles Patent Suit with Apple http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/nokia-settles-suit-with-apple/Jun 20 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Only a few days left for the MeeGo Birmingham UK MeetUp - Sign up and show your MeeGo Support :-) http://mge.bz/bX #LinuxJun 20 15:21
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oiaohmCannot be much harder since I have to understand induction and shielding in the first place.Jun 20 15:22
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amarsh04e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapham_Junction_rail_crashJun 20 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Ogg Backer Strikes Back Against the MPEG-LA Cartel http://ur1.ca/4hd7h #ogg webm #google #verbis #theora #ftc #apple #microsoftJun 20 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ogg Backer Strikes Back Against the MPEG-LA Cartel http://ur1.ca/4hd7h #antitrust #swpats #uspto #mpegla #codec #compressionJun 20 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Woman Poses As A Sexy Teen On Facebook, Tricks Her Husband And Learns He's Trying To Kill Her (BI): http://read.bi/j6lLivJun 20 15:25
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amarsh04a cabler did some sloppy work that wasn't checked and signal malfunctions caused one train to stop and the train behind it to get a green light and run into itJun 20 15:25
amarsh04I had modem problems with a 21 pin serial cable as the manufacturer enabled EIA test lead functionality by default and since the pins weren't connected at the end remote from the modem, signals from the other serial lines interfered with the test leadsJun 20 15:29
amarsh04flow control is another issue not clearly verified often... people just put in bigger buffers and faster processors and hope that the problem goes awayJun 20 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Kids don't want to be friends with their parents on Facebook (Forbes): http://onforb.es/kcGwOsJun 20 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Indian woman gang raped and set alight in #UttarPradesh http://is.gd/rCk7pk - I am speechless :(Jun 20 15:31
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oiaohmamarsh04: Really I miss my remote screen monitoring box.Jun 20 15:36
oiaohmamarsh04: Loved Crt screens people don't use any more.Jun 20 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Fifa vice-president #JackWarner resigns http://is.gd/gEwnzw after how many years with his nose in the trough? #corruption #scumbagJun 20 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ethics investigation dropped now, presumption of innocence - this explains it #FIFA !Football - if he was innocent, why resign? #guiltyJun 20 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] For those of you coming to my poster, it is now in slot 122 #evol11Jun 20 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Best wifi reception in front of Oklahoma A #evol11Jun 20 15:38
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amarsh04I've sent my crt's to e-cycle recoveryJun 20 15:38
amarsh04still 2 old televisions to be recycled hereJun 20 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Cloud storage providers need sharper billing metrics (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/mlr12TJun 20 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana here it goes: <list> </list> :-)Jun 20 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New SQL injection attacks more persistent (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/k34jOFJun 20 15:43
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amarsh04"sharper" can been closer to the edge of the rulesJun 20 15:43
amarsh04the old TiB versus TB distinctionJun 20 15:43
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ender_33!google wikipedia terabyteJun 20 15:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Terabyte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerabyteJun 20 15:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - TB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TBJun 20 15:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Terabyte - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerabyteJun 20 15:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Free Terabyte image tbi wiki Download - Terabyte image tbi wiki ... | http://softwaretopic.informer.com/terabyte-image-tbi-wiki/Jun 20 15:45
amarsh04! google tebibyteJun 20 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @thistleweb: #Indian woman gang raped and set alight in #UttarPradesh http://is.gd/rCk7pk - I am speechless :(Jun 20 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Best Buy battles over control of the word 'Geek' (WSJ): http://on.wsj.com/lpuvJ4Jun 20 15:51
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amarsh04!google tebibyteJun 20 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Top Amazon reviewers are rolling in free swag (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/kmlXyvJun 20 15:56
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ender_33amarsh04 -its terabyteJun 20 15:58
ender_33or do you mean terabitJun 20 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Independent Author Sells 1 Million #Ebooks via# Amazon - http://on.mash.to/mFlO3X "attributes much of his success to his $0.99 pricing"Jun 20 15:58
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ender_33!google wikipedia terabitJun 20 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Terabit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerabitJun 20 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Terabyte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerabyteJun 20 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Terabit Ethernet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabit_EthernetJun 20 15:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Terabit per second - The IT Law Wiki | http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Terabit_per_secondJun 20 15:58
amarsh04have a read of http://www.iec.ch/tcnews/archives/pdf/tclet6.pdfJun 20 15:58
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeJun 20 15:58
ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TebibyteJun 20 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @joabj: Top #Amazon reviewers are rolling in free swag (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/kmlXyvJun 20 16:00
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ender_33thats 2^40Jun 20 16:00
ender_33it seems to depend on whatever standard you feel like usingJun 20 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Genius, Breakthroughs, and the Manhattan Project - http://bit.ly/knJ0VT interesting, if over-longJun 20 16:01
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ender_33terabyte is used more oftenJun 20 16:02
ender_33more of a standardJun 20 16:02
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amarsh04both terms can be used, they have different names and symbols, one is more suited to powers of 2 (units of storage like RAM or hard disks), one is more suited to powers of 10 (frequency of data signalling rates)Jun 20 16:04
amarsh04frequency or data signalling ratesJun 20 16:04
ender_33http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2010-April/005480.htmlJun 20 16:04
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ender_33seems like TiB is a failed attempt at a standardJun 20 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NBC hates #God http://is.gd/DPuFpU lol #USOpen #GolfJun 20 16:05
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oiaohmTiB is still used when you must be 100 percent sure of a power of 2Jun 20 16:05
ender_33seems TB and TiB are 2^40Jun 20 16:06
ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TebibyteJun 20 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Ambiance, Finally Ported To #GTK3 - !Ubuntu 11.10 #Oneiric Ocelot Updates: http://goo.gl/XiYVOJun 20 16:06
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ender_33The tebibyte is closely related to the terabyte, which is defined as 1012 bytes = 1000000000000bytes, but has been used as a synonym for tebibyte in some contexts (see binary prefix).Jun 20 16:07
ender_33very confusing wikipedia!Jun 20 16:07
Diablo-D3ender_33: I think thats supposed to be 10^12Jun 20 16:09
ender_33Diablo-D3 - 'very confusing wikipedia'Jun 20 16:09
ender_33look at their graphJun 20 16:09
Diablo-D3too lazyJun 20 16:09
ender_33yeahJun 20 16:10
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ender_33this is why I don't take everything from wikipedia as factJun 20 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm backports.Jun 20 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Vista 7 seems to be like cavity wall insulation foam. You put it on a disc and it keeps expanding.Jun 20 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bought a bottle of Connemara that I will open in honour of Clarence tonight. #BigManJun 20 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Samurai Facts vs. Samurai Myths and Legends http://ur1.ca/4hdt5Jun 20 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @barefoot_techie 40 nations support UN special rapporteur's objection to #3strikes online #copyright enforcement bit.ly/jGjFmc not UKJun 20 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lobbyists Against GNU/Linux Increasingly Use Patents as Weapons http://ur1.ca/4hduu #fail #muellerJun 20 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Lobbyists Against #GNU #Linux Increasingly Use Patents as Weapons http://ur1.ca/4hduu #google #nortel #swpats #microsoft #lodsysJun 20 16:51
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ender_33I wonder if smoking marjuana makes you believe in reptiliansJun 20 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Reports of SQL’s Death Are Greatly Exaggerated (Vertica blog): http://bit.ly/lQZO7YJun 20 16:53
ender_33LOLJun 20 16:53
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MinceRWP says it does have hallucinogenic properties...Jun 20 16:54
schestowitzender_33: of course it doesJun 20 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Reference page on #MPEGLA has just been added to !techrights http://ur1.ca/4hd1fJun 20 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] eGuvernarea, OpenID și telefonul http://tinyurl.com/3rrtknt #egovt #agoraro #romania #openidJun 20 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yes, I need nvidia 275.... until then I can't run unity. Mixed blessings.Jun 20 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @joshix @onedot You're complaining about comic book guy, not @fontana, right? I don't want to favorite in error.Jun 20 16:56
schestowitzmsb_: you may wish to watch this 3-part series:Jun 20 16:56
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schestowitz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVedVe31CKA&feature=dgst_fri&playnext=1&list=TL1sLGayVKVMs&force_ap=1Jun 20 16:56
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schestowitzIt's new and it's creedibleJun 20 16:56
schestowitzIt's also from an inside source and makes none of the claims you leapt toJun 20 16:57
schestowitzIt's more compatible with what I think happened and how it was exploited by Cheney's cabalJun 20 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Japan Takes Top Spot From China: Fujitsu’s “K” Is The World’s Most Powerful #Supercomputer http://tinyurl.com/5swerz2 #gnu #linux #windowsJun 20 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @openstudiopro Looking for a community driven Ubuntu distro for !Proaudio usage? I can recommend Tango Studio http://is.gd/jlH7ZZ !ub ...Jun 20 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @kirschner #AVM #GPL violation press coverage: The #H-Online http://ur1.ca/4hdk8 #lwn http://ur1.ca/4hdko #eweek http://ur1.ca/4hdl5Jun 20 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open For Business: Pay day | http://red.ht/k8NYpP #opensource #OpenNMSJun 20 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @openattitude Editing HD video: !Linux vs iMovie. The results may surprise you... | everyday linux how2s http://ur1.ca/4h206Jun 20 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @boycottnovell Ogg Backer Strikes Back Against the MPEG-LA Cartel http://ur1.ca/4hd7h #ogg webm #google #verbis #theora #ftc #appl ...Jun 20 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @laquadrature [fr][LExpress.fr] Les indécences d'Hadopi http://lqdn.fr/node/4577Jun 20 17:01
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msb_schestowitz: ok...Jun 20 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Software Patents Hurt uTorrent, GoDaddy, Internet Phones, and More http://ur1.ca/4hcx3 #monopoly #uspto #protectionism # ...Jun 20 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Kyrgyz parliament orders blocking of news website of record - http://bit.ly/mw1vap shameless copying of US, France, UK etc ...Jun 20 17:03
schestowitzit's longJun 20 17:03
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schestowitzBut worthwhile and accurateJun 20 17:03
schestowitzJay from Real News Network is generally very goodJun 20 17:04
schestowitzHe also hosted some panels on wikileaks... the real panels, not the faux ones that seek to convict truth tellersJun 20 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @openattitude Malware targeting custom !Android ROMs. | LXNews http://ur1.ca/4hcpx via @fabshJun 20 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Average American smartphone user use 89 percent more data than just a year ago (Connected Planet): http://bit.ly/jbNNhHJun 20 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody shock horror: Windows increases its market share of top500 #supercomputers by 20% - http://bit.ly/kwgCwM (i.e. from 5 to 6...)Jun 20 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "This website requires WebGL. Try running Chrome 9+" (I am on Chromium 12.0.742.100) #ChromeExperiment #FAILJun 20 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @laquadrature Un week-end de création pour défendre Internet libre ! Participez au Quadrature Communication Camp http://lqdn.fr/qcc #QCCJun 20 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @methoddan Want to show your support for !oggcamp? Check out these awesome website badges - http://oggcamp.org/promotion !loJun 20 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @kirschner Background information on #avm 's #gpl violation case are available here http://ur1.ca/4hc9e !fsfeJun 20 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @diablomarcus @fabsh I'll start shortlinking you to OMGUbuntu comments soon. Speaking of idiots...Jun 20 17:05
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schestowitz*LOL* site was having varnish errors while I was asleep and the troll advertised it... http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/techloons-site-down-most-day-help-203798882.htmlJun 20 17:08
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msb_schestowitz: If this is the gist of it -- "Cheney and his team saw 9/11 as an opportunity to advance their real agenda" -- then it doesn't account for the physical evidence -- the thermite flakes (tons of it if you figure the total amount of dust), the rapid descent of the line of demolition, the molten metal seen under the rubble.Jun 20 17:08
msb_schestowitz: ...and Building 7.Jun 20 17:09
msb_schestowitz: The fact the Cheney and the other NWO fascists used 9/11 to advance their agenda doesn't imply anything about whether they caused it or not.  The physical evidence does.Jun 20 17:11
schestowitzIt doesn't talk about this, I'm not arguing about 9/11 itself, neither did theyJun 20 17:12
schestowitzListen to part 2...Jun 20 17:12
ender_33fascists, socialists, they're all the sameJun 20 17:13
schestowitzWhat I did not know is that someone complained one hijacker learned how to take off but not how to landJun 20 17:13
schestowitzAnd was allegedly told, "don't check his computer"Jun 20 17:13
schestowitzThat's nothign to do with unsubstaniated theoriesJun 20 17:13
schestowitzIf anything, it flasifies themJun 20 17:13
schestowitzThe question is, did the services become neglectful. That's what the commission needed to invetigate properlyJun 20 17:14
schestowitzthe 9/11 CommissionJun 20 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Very odd headline from @SJVN http://ur1.ca/4he0v article very different from the provocative headline. C'mon #zdnetJun 20 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Peter Bright is a spinmaster. That doesn't make him less wrong though. Why does #Arse have an MS apologist on staff, exactly?Jun 20 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @flattrchattr @voxpelli is the bomb: @ThistleWeb There is a Drupal 7 version of the Flattr module? http://bit.ly/jnCchFJun 20 17:15
schestowitzNot to satisfy some ludicrous claims but to prevent repetition and possibility of abuseJun 20 17:15
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schestowitzAnd then there's the fabricatiomn of evidence about WoMDJun 20 17:15
schestowitzThey pretend that because it's an old take it doesn't matter anymoreJun 20 17:15
schestowitzThe events are related in the sense that two combined were exploited to start a warJun 20 17:15
schestowitz"The New American Century‬‏"Jun 20 17:16
schestowitzSome documents are really good for showing the clear intent to dominate and abuse and intimidateJun 20 17:16
schestowitzGoing back decades agoJun 20 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Artificial meat could slice emissions, say scientists - http://bit.ly/lOKzLT is this what the future tastes like? #food #sustainabilityJun 20 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox 5 web browser arrives early http://ur1.ca/4he2oJun 20 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @vanden Just got a spam email addressed to `Dear Concern.' It's like they aren't even trying anymore.Jun 20 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why #Google will not buy #Canonical http://ur1.ca/4h0w2 response to provocative speculations and incurious insinuations. #ubuntu #gnuJun 20 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] He hasn't changed. Not even the haircut. http://www.linux.com/news/galleries/1-linus-torvalds-in-picturesJun 20 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Grand Review of three new desktops, pt. 2: the Unity experience http://ur1.ca/4he4rJun 20 17:26
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msb_schestowitz: Do you mean this?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P8CzRbLnC4&NR=1Jun 20 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In order for Chromebooks to succeed Google will have to make these machines functional. Using "security" to cripple a platform is dishonest.Jun 20 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !identiverse :)Jun 20 17:28
ender_33msb_ what about rockefellar, ted turner and george sorosJun 20 17:29
schestowitzted turner is weakJun 20 17:29
schestowitzyou're too much on his backJun 20 17:29
schestowitz!google ted turner sagan youtubeJun 20 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Ted Turner Interviews Carl Sagan (Part 1 of 5) | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dk2zMa3unSN8Jun 20 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Ted Turner Interviews Carl Sagan (Part 3 of 5) | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Ddj_MZ6i5Dr0Jun 20 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Ted Turner Interviews Carl Sagan (Part 4 of 5) | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D35EROe20kWIJun 20 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Watch Documentary "Science > Ted Turner interviews Carl Sagan ... | http://www.alluc.org/documentaries/watch-ted-turner-interviews-carl-sagan-online/22338.htmlJun 20 17:29
ender_33he made captain planet manJun 20 17:29
schestowitzmsb_: yesJun 20 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] personally I'd hire the bear, rather than take his arms, he's better with them than me #fb - the right to bear arms #USJun 20 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 6 Torrent clients for #Linux http://ur1.ca/4he5h reducing the complexity of data-passing by finding nearby nodes is a GoodThingJun 20 17:30
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ender_33Captain PLanet was one of the cartoons that made me an environmentalistJun 20 17:30
msb_schestowitz: I know all this stuff already.  I thought you had something that claimed to refute the 9/11 research.Jun 20 17:30
ender_33when I used to believe the disinfoJun 20 17:30
schestowitzmsb_: *what* research?Jun 20 17:31
schestowitzDon't give a bad name to research :-)Jun 20 17:31
msb_schestowitz: The research I link to on my 9/11 page.Jun 20 17:32
ender_33 Just as Ford and GM were bidding to get the Empire of Japan to purchase their trucks as they saw they needed plenty to occupy China before Pearl Harbor.Jun 20 17:32
schestowitzThe video is not about thatJun 20 17:32
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76785400Jun 20 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Monday, 20-Jun-11 16:25:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Actually, "Cloud Computing" is something so far from reality, Google would do good if bought Canonical, if only to slap M$Jun 20 17:33
ender_33msb_ are you reading a script?Jun 20 17:33
ender_33Ziomatrixmsb_: IBM and others saw Hitler as a big customer. Just as Ford and GM were bidding to get the Empire of Japan to purchase their trucks as they saw they needed plenty to occupy China before Pearl Harbor.Jun 20 17:34
ender_33msb_: Mainly these US businessmen wanted to kill off socialism, social democracy, trade-unionism, and just plain democracy wherever they could in the world, so they could go in, take the natural resources, and use the population as slave labor, paying them very little.  The fascist puppet dictators they set up in those countries would simply kill any workers who tried to organize.Jun 20 17:35
ender_33Ziomatrixmsb_: mind you the first automobile plant in China was built in 1913 by Ford thanks to the RoC opening up the doors to US companies in light of their support.Jun 20 17:35
ender_33Socialism, social democracy, trade-unionism, and democracy were their enemies.  And so they directed Hitler to attack those who organized these movements.Jun 20 17:35
ender_33msb_: Socialism, social democracy, trade-unionism, and democracy were their enemies.  And so they directed Hitler to attack those who organized these movements.Jun 20 17:35
ender_33fixed the last oneJun 20 17:35
ender_33basicly its like we tell you something and then you ignore it and copy and paste text from your site or some script you haveJun 20 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We pay for these wars with debt" http://ur1.ca/4he7lJun 20 17:36
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msb_ender_33: No, I'm not reading a script.  Why do you ask?  Doesn't the script you're reading tell you how to respond to me?Jun 20 17:37
ender_33are you going to push drugs now and make this channel look like its full of aging hippies?Jun 20 17:37
msb_ender_33: Have you stopped beating up your girlfriend?Jun 20 17:38
ender_33are you going to try getting Roy to publish BS about a Microsoft-KDE4 connectionJun 20 17:38
ThistleWebender_33: you contribute to the insanity here by throwing around terms like socialism, facism, communism when you're clueless as to what they meanJun 20 17:38
ender_33msb_ I don't beat up anyone, not my girlfriend or anyoneJun 20 17:38
ender_33you're a very nasty agentJun 20 17:38
ender_33ThistleWeb - socialism and communism are interchangable (in my opinion because they're so close)Jun 20 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] getting to the end of the cameras http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110620 #sip_and_clickJun 20 17:40
ender_33you can say i'm wrong all you like, im not aloneJun 20 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon Serialization 25 is posted ... I loved the opportunity to interweave Shakespeare !publicdomain !SelfPub http://ur1.ca/4he6wJun 20 17:40
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ThistleWebby comparison, msb is total looney tunesJun 20 17:40
ender_33I think hes doing it on purposeJun 20 17:41
msb_ender_33: Of course you're not alone.  You have the Neanderthals talking to you in your head.Jun 20 17:41
ThistleWebof course he isJun 20 17:41
ender_33msb_ if that theory proves true its a computer, not neanderthallersJun 20 17:41
msb_ThistleWeb: What have I said that you're calling looney tunes.Jun 20 17:41
msb_ThistleWeb: Other than occasionally throwing ender_33's smears back at him.Jun 20 17:42
msb_ThistleWeb: What have I said that you're calling looney tunes?Jun 20 17:42
ender_33saying I beat my girlfriend?Jun 20 17:42
ThistleWebthis site is about conspiracys, and exposing them......assuming all the stuff roy blogs about are real and accurate, what better way to muddy the waters than constantly troll with looney tunes nutzoid conspiraciy theories mixed in?Jun 20 17:42
ender_33the site is about collusion, not conspiracyJun 20 17:43
ender_33roy doesn't want to use the loaded termJun 20 17:43
msb_ThistleWeb: What have I said that you are labelling "looney tunes nutzoid conspiraciy theories" ?Jun 20 17:43
ThistleWebit amounts to the same thingJun 20 17:43
ThistleWebwhen you get a whiff of a company having done something illegal it's a thread leading to other evidence if truJun 20 17:44
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ThistleWebeven if true, it'll get the same "consipracy theory" dismissal from those who'd rather keep it secret, or derail the messangerJun 20 17:45
ThistleWebwhat better way than fill this channel with bullshit conspiracy theories at every turnJun 20 17:46
msb_ThistleWeb: Are you directing that remark at me?Jun 20 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @alpacaherder When I first open a view on Identica for the day and it is filled with @fabsh...I know it will be an interesting day...Jun 20 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] ♺ @schestowitz: #Mozilla #Firefox 5 web browser arrives early http://ur1.ca/4he2oJun 20 17:46
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ender_33the first thing msb_ said here was a bullshit conspiracy theory saying Microsoft is controling KDE4 via Novell FundingJun 20 17:47
ThistleWebso any discussion of real collusion / conspiracy is mixed in with a lot of delusional bullshitJun 20 17:47
ender_33on may 9th 2011Jun 20 17:47
ender_33http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-09052011.htmlJun 20 17:47
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ThistleWebI don't care, I ignored his ass a while back when I got sick of his dellusional rantsJun 20 17:47
ender_33within 24hrs he was promoting cannabisJun 20 17:48
ThistleWebhim and his partner in crimeJun 20 17:48
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msb_ThistleWeb: Are you saying that I have a "partner in crime" here?Jun 20 17:48
ender_33within 24 hrs he also had me chatting via skype where he assembled a profile on me claiming its just a way he uses to file people he knowsJun 20 17:49
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ThistleWebwell, you were stoopid enough to agreeJun 20 17:49
msb_ThistleWeb: You've now made several accusations against me and have refused to cite a single fact to support them.Jun 20 17:50
ThistleWebit's one thing for individual users to ignore people like that, but they still appear on the logs, which roy always publishes in fullJun 20 17:51
ThistleWebbut hey knows, he's cool with it, and it's his projectJun 20 17:51
msb_Alright ThistleWeb -- Gordon Sinclair -- so you make nasty accusations at people in chatrooms and refuse to cite any justification for them.  I guess that's just the kind of person you are.Jun 20 17:53
ender_33^ name drop for the wintrollsJun 20 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blaming downtimes on Ross [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/S76rt.pngJun 20 17:55
ThistleWebreally? this is the value of the /ignore featureJun 20 17:55
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msb_As to ender_33's current attacks, Microsoft made secret deals with Novell, I've been told by OpenSuse people that Novell financed the development of KDE4, and I've been told by an insider that Novell and the KDE4 team used focus groups comprised of naive Windows users to decide what should be emphasized in KDE4.Jun 20 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rms Urgent: not suspected of crimes http://ur1.ca/4hebnJun 20 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Xen Entering the Mainline Kernel http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/xen-entering-mainline-kernel/Jun 20 17:58
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msb_The result was that KDE4 mostly emphasizes visual themes, and cripples the ability to use a large number (e.g., 20) of virtual desktops, which is required for power users.Jun 20 17:59
ender_33msb_ the quarterly earnings reports do no confirm the hearsay you've heard from 'random' opensuse people you refuse to nameJun 20 17:59
ender_33I've linked them the last time you talked about this disinfoJun 20 18:00
msb_Since KDE has been the DE of choice for most Linux users because it was the most functional, the crippling of KDE4 means the crippling of Linux -- the OS for people who think -- unless they go to the trouble of reverting to KDE3.Jun 20 18:01
ender_33that's also wrong, gnome appears as the default in almost all other distrosJun 20 18:01
ender_33other than suseJun 20 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I just love Carbonara! :DJun 20 18:01
ender_33plusJun 20 18:01
ender_33can you please provide evidence of Novell paying for KDE4Jun 20 18:02
msb_Most Linux power users.Jun 20 18:02
ender_33physical evidenceJun 20 18:02
ender_33not hearsayJun 20 18:02
msb_ender_33: Sure, when you provide physical evidence that you're not working for Microsoft.Jun 20 18:02
ender_33unless you have hard evidence to back up those claims its a THEORY not a FACTJun 20 18:02
ender_33msb_ you can't prove a negativeJun 20 18:03
ender_33msb_ it would be your burden of proof to claim that I do work for MicrosoftJun 20 18:03
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msb_The notion that Microsoft sabotaged Linux via Novell and KDE4 is a theory, but it is one that I think has strong circumstantial evidence, which I have described.Jun 20 18:04
msb_And certainly there is no doubt that Microsoft wishes to sabotage Linux.  Jun 20 18:05
ender_33hearsay from a random opensuse personJun 20 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Awesome!! ♻ @kevan All planes, Trains, Boats and Hotels booked to get to and from !oggcamp11Jun 20 18:05
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ender_33what if he was just looking to make a good story to feel good about himselfJun 20 18:05
msb_Since it financed SCO with $100,000,000 for its fraudulent anti-Linux lawsuit.Jun 20 18:05
ender_33msb_ do you have records of novell funding KDE EV ?Jun 20 18:05
ender_33KDE EV seems to have no record of itJun 20 18:06
msb_What does "EVJun 20 18:06
msb_" mean?Jun 20 18:06
ender_33again you didn't visit a site I provided as evidenceJun 20 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to FIFA, Jack Warner is presumed innocent. As for everyone else; he's presumed to be as guilty as sinJun 20 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !oggcamp ♻ @chemist @kevan nah we'll still rocking when it's time for breakfast :DJun 20 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Google Throws Its Weight Behind LibreOffice http://bit.ly/k4KzQ7Jun 20 18:06
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ender_33http://ev.kde.org/Jun 20 18:06
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ender_33http://ev.kde.org/reports/Jun 20 18:06
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ender_33you're saying KDE EV would take money from Novell in exchange for making KDE worse?Jun 20 18:07
ender_33that doesn't make senseJun 20 18:08
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msb_What does "EV" mean?Jun 20 18:08
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ender_33http://ev.kde.org/whatiskdeev.phpJun 20 18:09
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ender_33"eingetragener Verein" which means "registered assocation"Jun 20 18:09
ender_33is it hard to accept facts that aren't given to you via a handler?Jun 20 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @noyesk Google Throws Its Weight Behind LibreOffice http://bit.ly/k4KzQ7Jun 20 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A definition government for some. "Stop the plebs from rioting while we rob them blind." !capitalismJun 20 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 226 million downloads on 2011-06-20 17:07 UTCJun 20 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've never been good at pigeonholes, but i have no idea what some @jamendo contest categories mean: World? Urban? I mean what *is* that?Jun 20 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Note to self: "Best is the enemy of Good"Jun 20 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @noyesk Google Throws Its Weight Behind LibreOffice http://bit.ly/k4KzQ7Jun 20 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @fontana: RT @noyesk Google Throws Its Weight Behind LibreOffice http://bit.ly/k4KzQ7Jun 20 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @noyesk Google Throws Its Weight Behind LibreOffice http://bit.ly/k4KzQ7Jun 20 18:11
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msb_The KDE4 developers might believe that copious themeability might attract naive MS-Windows users.  And they also may not feel that multiple virtual-desktops are important, perhaps because they're not complex thinkers.  Or maybe they just do what they're told.  So if they're told to emphasize themes and cripple the virtual desktops, that might be fine with them.Jun 20 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Dear Internet: Stop producing news or I'll never get this show prep done......Jun 20 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @fontana @vanden What I miss are the early 2000s spams from . like "Levity P. Consternation"Jun 20 18:13
ender_33I'm emailing the KDE EV boardJun 20 18:14
ender_33I tried emailing Cornelius but he has not replied yetJun 20 18:14
ender_33I might email Aseigo tooJun 20 18:14
msb_ender_33: Is it always this hard for you to think clearly when you're around adults?  Maybe you should ask your psychiatrist to change your medication.Jun 20 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] PathogenJun 20 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fontana Levity P Consternation? I know him....oh wait, I'm thinking of Levity P Constipation ;PJun 20 18:15
ender_33I am thinking clearlyJun 20 18:15
ender_33you have NO evidenceJun 20 18:15
ender_33just hearsayJun 20 18:15
ender_33instead of providing me with some evidence you provide some ad hominem - a la the psychiatrist diatribeJun 20 18:15
msb_ender_33: Only in response to _your_ ad hominems.Jun 20 18:16
ender_33At least I provide evidence AND ad hominemsJun 20 18:16
ender_33you only provide ad hominems and hearsayJun 20 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] was #ObiWan talking about #FIFA or #MosEisley "a wretched hive of scum and villainy" #paraphrasingJun 20 18:16
ender_33the financials disprove your claimsJun 20 18:17
ender_33just like how I might work for microsoft nowJun 20 18:17
ender_33goforbes28 came up with that one too, he can be your evidenceJun 20 18:18
ender_33hearsay is all you need to believe somethingJun 20 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] was #ObiWan talking about #FIFA or #MosEisley "a wretched hive of scum and villainy" #paraphrasing #StarWarsJun 20 18:18
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ender_33keep pushing cannibus - http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-23052011.html#tMay 23 20:36:26Jun 20 18:20
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ender_33errr cannabisJun 20 18:20
ender_33I'm used to writing out the rappers nameJun 20 18:20
ThistleWebthe cannibus is the vehicle used to drive about while getting stonedJun 20 18:21
ender_33LOLJun 20 18:21
ThistleWebcomplete with rolling tables that fold down from the seat in front, aircraft styleJun 20 18:21
ender_33gotta get some scooby snacks!Jun 20 18:22
ThistleWebmunchies dropping down from the overhead rack instead of masksJun 20 18:22
ThistleWebor a bong, via the breathing masks, powered by a lil fire at the front of the dashboardJun 20 18:23
ender_33roflJun 20 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google Backs LibreOffice http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/google-backs-libreoffice/Jun 20 18:23
ender_33after that shit you might start to see reptiliansJun 20 18:23
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*ThistleWeb used to be a stonerJun 20 18:23
msb_ender_33: The KDE ev Q1 2007 report doesn't list salaries for developers in the expenses area.  So either the devs were working for free, or their salaries are not listed in those reports.Jun 20 18:24
ender_33I didnt even know canibus was into computersJun 20 18:24
ender_33msb_ lets ask them then instead of spreading liesJun 20 18:24
msb_ender_33: Are you really going to stop spreading lies?Jun 20 18:25
ender_33im not spreading liesJun 20 18:25
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ender_33I might be wrong but when I find out I stop spreading it if the facts fitJun 20 18:26
ender_33don't assume me not believing you is lying eitherJun 20 18:28
ender_33I was wrong to call people marxists, when stuff goes way deeper than just communism - I don't rant about communists anymoreJun 20 18:28
ender_33now, lets say someone from Microsoft quit and went to go work for KDE EVJun 20 18:29
ender_33things might be differentJun 20 18:29
ender_33it would also be counter productive for microsoft to make kde4 easier so people move from windowsJun 20 18:31
ender_33it seems (this isn't an accusation) that it would be to microsoft's benefit to have a bunch of loonies claiming Microsoft is behind everything - so when it is discovered they really are - people will have already dealt with roy crying wolfJun 20 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What are (if any) the moral saving graces of !capitalism? Or are we all just rats in a barrel? #economics #politicsJun 20 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Watching bro devour #ePub books and wondering "Why didn't I introduce him to this before?"Jun 20 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Done with !LO show prep in the nick of time!Jun 20 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @sixgun Join us for a Linux Outlaws live show in about half an hour via http://sixgun.org/liveJun 20 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #StevenSpielberg demanded #MeganFox be fired from #Transformers, says #MichaelBay http://is.gd/OlOq8EJun 20 18:48
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ender_33Magan Fox was being a bitch about the movieJun 20 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Story f/ @thetechscribe who talks to #linuxcon speaker Grant Likely on Linux/ARM: http://t.co/JfY50K3 The "kernel" take: http://t.co/2zbiF8ZJun 20 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/448462/rssJun 20 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Getting ready to start another live show.Jun 20 19:11
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ender_33"O.J. Simpson did not spend Mothers Day with his children. When asked about it he replied, 'Duh! Because I killed their mother!' "Jun 20 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh what time do you start recording for your zunecast? ;)Jun 20 19:16
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ender_33"Earlier this week Attorney General Janet Reno charged software giant Microsoft with trying to monopolize access to the Internet, and she has asked a federal court to fine the company a million dollars per day. Analysts say that at this rate, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates will be broke just 10 years after the Earth crashes into the sun."Jun 20 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra We're doing it now.Jun 20 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @davidmn Hmmmm beef cake rugby players posting dumb tweets? Sounds like I should jump ship.Jun 20 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♻ @sixgun The Outlaws are live: http://sixgun.org/liveJun 20 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♻ @sixgun http://ustream.tv/channel/linuxoutlaws for the UstreamJun 20 19:23
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msb_ender_33: You do know that O.J. Simpson was found innocent, right?Jun 20 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] "ICANN has opened the Internet’s naming system to unleash the global human imagination." With $185k I could imagine far more than a new TLD.Jun 20 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwebber: It's @mattl's birthday# ★✯⁂♥☮☃~ happy bday @mattl ~☃☮♥⁂✯★Jun 20 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @lxoliva: ♻ @cwebber: It's @mattl's birthday# ★✯⁂♥☮☃~ happy bday @mattl ~☃☮♥⁂✯★Jun 20 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is not hindsight but stating the obvious. An ever increasing plague of humans all fighting for resources is unsustainable. #cooperationJun 20 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Presenting the Nokia N9 - early press shots? http://wp.me/p1gHxJ-60Y #MeeGoJun 20 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When I renew my passport I wonder if I could get away with that. Occupation....Part of a plague.Jun 20 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] 10 Practices for Good Open Web Standards Development (tantek.com) | http://ttk.me/b/48A1Jun 20 19:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "You leave the brakes on" !DrWhoJun 20 19:55
schestowitz[17:43] <ender_33> the site is about collusion, not conspiracyJun 20 19:56
schestowitzTrueJun 20 19:56
schestowitzConspiracy has been 'rottened'. For sure, any other words will be poisoned tooJun 20 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @satipera: This is not hindsight but stating the obvious. An ever increasing plague of humans all fighting for resources is unsustainableJun 20 19:56
schestowitzSome take the approach of deliberately trying to clean up the insult, e/g. "pirate party"Jun 20 19:57
schestowitz[17:59] <msb_> The result was that KDE4 mostly emphasizes visual themes, and cripples the ability to use a large number (e.g., 20) of virtual desktops, which is required for power users.Jun 20 19:58
schestowitzhow many do you need and why not use activities?Jun 20 19:58
schestowitz[18:02] <ender_33> can you please provide evidence of Novell paying for KDE4Jun 20 19:59
schestowitzI did actually, it paid the key employeesJun 20 19:59
schestowitzWe also know that Novell got a lot of its money from Microsoft, which also aided Novell's sale so that it can better control Novell and take its important patentsJun 20 19:59
schestowitz[18:05] <ender_33> msb_ do you have records of novell funding KDE EV ?Jun 20 20:00
schestowitzYou need to check the employees baseJun 20 20:00
schestowitzThey get a salaryJun 20 20:00
schestowitzNot from KDE eJun 20 20:00
schestowitz*vJun 20 20:00
msb_schestowitz: I use 20 desktops.  I don't use "activities" because there's no quick way to switch between them by desktop name like the KDE3 desktop-pager applet.Jun 20 20:01
schestowitz[18:14] <ender_33> I tried emailing Cornelius but he has not replied yetJun 20 20:01
schestowitzIIRC he worked for Novell? Or was it the other guys I'm mixing it with? Schumacher maybe.Jun 20 20:01
schestowitzmsb_: find a wayJun 20 20:02
schestowitzset up shortcutsJun 20 20:02
schestowitzFor me, maximine is alt+f7Jun 20 20:02
schestowitzI used this a last when posting to COLAJun 20 20:02
schestowitzI'd open about 40 post windows, then pick one at the time and prepare my posts, f+7 to take the full left-side screenJun 20 20:02
msb_schestowitz: I want to switch between them by named buttons.  I do not want to remember 20 shortcuts.Jun 20 20:03
schestowitzCOLA archives on the other screen for contextJun 20 20:03
schestowitzI volved this over the yearsJun 20 20:03
schestowitzLast year I'd open almost 100 compose windowsJun 20 20:03
schestowitzAs I only posted once in a couple of days or thereabouts, all manually of courseJun 20 20:03
schestowitzTook like 3-4 hoursJun 20 20:03
schestowitzmsb_: use F[1-12]Jun 20 20:03
schestowitzAdd SHIFT for moreJun 20 20:04
schestowitzF9-F12 are reservedJun 20 20:04
schestowitzf9 exposes all windowsJun 20 20:04
schestowitzf10 exposes all windows in all worspacesJun 20 20:04
msb_schestowitz: I do not want to remember 20 shortcuts.Jun 20 20:04
schestowitzF12 shows plasmaJun 20 20:04
msb_What is "plasma"?Jun 20 20:05
schestowitzmsb_: just use the numbers with an acceleratorJun 20 20:05
schestowitzand be consistent re what gets assigned whereJun 20 20:05
schestowitzin later kde4 you can set windows-specific optionsJun 20 20:05
schestowitzSo that, e.g. all instances of Firefox open up/strinct stay in workspace 1 in dimensions x-y and position x0-y0Jun 20 20:06
msb_I don't understand.  I want buttons labelled with the names that I assign to the desktops -- Mail, Music, Linux, etc.Jun 20 20:06
schestowitzIt'\s really one powerful thing... everything from KDE3 and more... and no bugs... not more than before..Jun 20 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !openSUSE News: Summer Camp Greece 2011 http://ping.fm/R4ykpJun 20 20:06
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schestowitzI miss a good pager thoughJun 20 20:06
schestowitzThere are no good pagers by default here, but I set screen corenrs to do scale, sphere, and wallJun 20 20:07
schestowitzdepending on what I look forJun 20 20:07
schestowitzwall for when you know which desktop to navigate toJun 20 20:07
schestowitzscale to find by application... it shows even the windows or 'top' animatingJun 20 20:07
schestowitzand sphere just to show off to mates who come hereJun 20 20:08
schestowitzit's not of much practical valueJun 20 20:08
schestowitz[18:17] <ender_33> the financials disprove your claims\Jun 20 20:09
schestowitzMost finances come from Novell, Red Hat, Canonical...Jun 20 20:09
schestowitzNot KDE e.V.Jun 20 20:09
schestowitz[18:20] <ender_33> keep pushing cannibus Jun 20 20:10
schestowitzhe's a good rapperJun 20 20:10
schestowitzKDE is steered by employees of Novell tooJun 20 20:11
schestowitzI don't accept that Microsoft influenced KDE via NovellJun 20 20:11
schestowitzBTW, Jos from KDE (marketing) is employed by NovellMate to run opensuse 'community' stuffJun 20 20:11
schestowitzMicrosoft specified needs for Novell regarding OOXMLJun 20 20:12
schestowitzMaybe wine and mono too through coverageJun 20 20:12
schestowitzNothing about the Linux developmentJun 20 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ultimate Privacy App for !Android Looks Impressive | Tech Drive-in http://ping.fm/zTUUZJun 20 20:13
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schestowitz[18:24] <msb_> ender_33: The KDE ev Q1 2007 report doesn't list salaries for developers in the expenses area.  So either the devs were working for free, or their salaries are not listed in those reportsJun 20 20:14
schestowitzExactlyJun 20 20:14
schestowitz[18:32] <ender_33> it seems (this isn't an accusation) that it would be to microsoft's benefit to have a bunch of loonies claiming Microsoft is behind everything - so when it is discovered they really are - people will have already dealt with roy crying wolfJun 20 20:15
schestowitzIt's not peopleJun 20 20:15
schestowitzMicrosoft is a brand nameJun 20 20:15
schestowitzMicrosoft\s 'soui' fs a collective decision from very rich and often pathological-minded peopleJun 20 20:16
schestowitzMicrosoft the company is a group of people working together in a tyran-hierarchical fashion to increase the power of those at the topJun 20 20:16
schestowitzThe "machine" is built that wauJun 20 20:16
schestowitzFor Microsof to harm ODF or KDE is works like a Colonel herding cannon fodderJun 20 20:17
schestowitzThe consciousness argument (they are just people) no longer applies, these are machine men working to pay their mortgage by obeying orders from superiorsJun 20 20:17
schestowitzThe sooner you grasp this, the less you will hesitate the draw conclusions, but there is no direct evidence showing Microsoft making decisions in KDE SCJun 20 20:18
schestowitzOn the other hand Jun 20 20:18
msb_It's exactly the same as the sickness that cripples humanity in all areas: hierarchical power structure that benefits the few at the top, and sociopathic lack of morality -- harm others to benefit oneself.Jun 20 20:18
schestowitz!google rick spenser canonical linkedin microsoftJun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bill James' Pop Fly « Whatever | http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/04/03/bill-james-pop-fly/Jun 20 20:18
schestowitz!google rick spencer canonical linkedin microsoftJun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Rick Spencer | LinkedIn | http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickspencer3Jun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Richard Spencer profiles | LinkedIn | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Richard/SpencerJun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Rick Spencer profiles | LinkedIn | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Rick/SpencerJun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Rick Spencer | LinkedIn | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rick-spencer/8/104/214Jun 20 20:18
schestowitz!google unity sucksJun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ubuntu Unity Sucks [splitbrain.org] | http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2010-10/25-ubuntu_unity_sucksJun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 5 Reasons Why Unity Sucks | Opinion'd | http://www.opiniond.com/2011/05/5-reasons-why-unity-sucks/Jun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Unity Hate - 7% People Agree (922 opinions) | http://amplicate.com/hate/unityJun 20 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ubuntu Unity Sucks | tuxmachines.org | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/48599Jun 20 20:18
schestowitz!google rick spencer ubuntu yahoo searchJun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Lucid changes to Firefox default search provider | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.htmlJun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Follow up to Default Search Provider Changes for 10.04 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-April/030589.htmlJun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Firefox in Ubuntu Finalizes to Google Search | http://techie-buzz.com/foss/firefox-ubuntu-coming-back-to-google-search.htmlJun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ubuntu's default search engine to change in deal with Yahoo | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/01/ubuntus-default-search-engine-to-change-in-deal-with-yahoo.arsJun 20 20:19
schestowitz!google rick spencer gimp fspot monoJun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Hands off the Gimp | http://www.stefanoforenza.com/hands-off-the-gimp/Jun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linux Today - Hands off the Gimp | http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2009070400635OSUBJun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - ok it's true i'm angry at LinuxPlanet Blogs | http://www.linuxplanet.org/blogs/%3Fcat%3D1177Jun 20 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - two is better than mono at LinuxPlanet Blogs | http://www.linuxplanet.org/blogs/%3Fcat%3D1088Jun 20 20:19
schestowitzbrbJun 20 20:19
schestowitzjust made a new videoJun 20 20:19
eebrah!google gnome3Jun 20 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - GNOME 3 - Made of Easy | http://gnome3.org/Jun 20 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - try it out - GNOME 3 - Made of Easy | http://gnome3.org/tryit.htmlJun 20 20:23
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - GNOME3 Notifications For Skype ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/gnome3-notifications-for-skype.htmlJun 20 20:23
eebrahooh! that is how that works!Jun 20 20:23
eebrah!find ender_33Jun 20 20:24
eebrah!seen ender_33Jun 20 20:24
eebrahoh wellJun 20 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Mozilla spars with Microsoft over WebGL security http://ping.fm/cOFpKJun 20 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good joke pass it on. The BBC is independent. #neutered #media #news #subservientJun 20 20:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Launchpad News: Knowing who the user is http://ping.fm/pNZ7RJun 20 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @satipera: Good joke pass it on. The #BBC is independent. #neutered #media #news #subservientJun 20 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 99 dents!Jun 20 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] B/W avatars are really in fashionJun 20 20:41
ender_33eebrah - whats upJun 20 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Jim Hendler on the challenges the Semantic Web must overcome: http://slidesha.re/mOmIf1Jun 20 20:46
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schestowitzjust uploaded.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URdSGQqnt4UJun 20 20:48
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schestowitz"Just repied publicly.. honestly I don't like his writings from the very beginning, Dana was much better IMHO "Jun 20 20:51
schestowitzWow. SJVN is not like by some FOSS people, eithrJun 20 20:51
schestowitz[20:41] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @satipera: Good joke pass it on. The #BBC is independent. #neutered #media #news #subservientJun 20 20:52
schestowitzLOL good oneJun 20 20:52
schestowitz!google gates bbc techrightsJun 20 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BBC Bribed by Bill Gates | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/29/gates-gives-bbc-money/Jun 20 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - BBC: Bill Gates a “Famous Thief”? | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/18/grooming-of-bill-gates/Jun 20 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - ES: La BBC Sobornada por Bill Gates | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/28/gates-gives-bbc-money_es/Jun 20 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The BBC's Anti-Internet Pro-Microsoft Revisionist ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/02/04/bbc-net-propaganda/Jun 20 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @joshix @fabsh Black & white is the new black. And white.Jun 20 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @th3k4ty call me godess of virtualbox! i am better than @fabshJun 20 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Extremely-Hyped Startup Fails to Live Up to Extreme Hype (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/ii9BszJun 20 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] LOL Not again :) RT @JayMontano: And finally: Nokia N9 Lankku hands on demo http://bit.ly/7JJSz8Jun 20 21:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All this Evan Davis business bollocks all over the BBC is getting right up my nose. Where are the Trade Union programmes on the BBC?Jun 20 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft misusing DMCA in Xbox 360 case: EFF http://ping.fm/q04bgJun 20 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Evan Davis to show us how great British manufacturing is starts his series with the Eurofighter. What a "world class" knob.Jun 20 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Statement by #tytso in a source file: "this uses the POSIX IO interfaces, unlike most of the other functions in this library. So sue me."Jun 20 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] What the WikiLeaks Haiti cables reveal | Haiti Liberte http://t.co/nNVSpIUJun 20 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] TVShack editor fights extradition to US http://t.co/ecizbcIJun 20 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Come and help Ensemble rock the Ubuntu Cloud - we need your help! http://is.gd/SQcVES #ubuntu #cloudJun 20 21:18
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GoForbes28schestowitz: Interesting practice I've been seeing on many forumsJun 20 21:24
GoForbes28schestowitz: One that suggests Microsoft PR masquerading as tech supportJun 20 21:24
GoForbes28schestowitz: doesn't affect GNU+Linux at all, but it is an interesting development none the lessJun 20 21:25
GoForbes28hi sebsebsebJun 20 21:25
GoForbes28schestowitz: Essentially, I've seen a lot of Windows problems around which ostensibly link to the anti0virus programJun 20 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Mapping the US empire with WikiLeaks http://t.co/IOtOHPhJun 20 21:26
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GoForbes28and the solution is always the same, even the formating of the post is identicalJun 20 21:26
GoForbes28it essentially is the instructions to uninstall your anti-virus program and install MSEJun 20 21:27
GoForbes28every single timeJun 20 21:27
GoForbes28I find that very suspiciousJun 20 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Help Make Ensemble Rock - http://is.gd/BYedpx #ubuntu #ensembleJun 20 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Quantum crypto felled by 'Perfect Eavesdropper' exploit: All your photons are belong to us (El Reg): http://bit.ly/kgaS0xJun 20 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Book now London July 2: Assange, Zizek & Amy Goodman talk WikiLeaks http://t.co/g6lnGdJJun 20 21:31
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sebsebsebGoForbes28: hiJun 20 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Adevarul: Citeşte despre viaţa celei mai iubite cântăreţe românce, dar şi despre povestea ei de dragoste cu Brâncuşi. http://t.co/6RDwL7nJun 20 21:33
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schestowitzHi, GoForbes28Jun 20 21:34
GoForbes28hi to both and allJun 20 21:34
schestowitzToday I caught up with wiki spam and founded a new pageJun 20 21:34
schestowitzI also found a new wiki joiner from groklawJun 20 21:35
schestowitzThe profiles created by new users are not always spamJun 20 21:35
schestowitzI view them one by one quicklyJun 20 21:35
schestowitzThe image upload spam has taken a declineJun 20 21:35
schestowitzit was taking up disk spaceJun 20 21:35
schestowitzI think all the image spam stays on the hard drive\Jun 20 21:35
GoForbes28you need to purge what has been deleteJun 20 21:36
GoForbes28It all can be restored, so it much remain like you have saidJun 20 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks' Kristinn Hrafnsson awarded First Barcelona Human Rights Film Festival Award http://t.co/p0ZIpogJun 20 21:36
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GoForbes28sebsebseb: Are you still testing Mageia?Jun 20 21:36
schestowitzI've been experimenting with gtk-recordmydesktop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URdSGQqnt4UJun 20 21:37
schestowitzGoForbes28: he hardly mentions this distro nowJun 20 21:37
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sebsebsebGoForbes28: uh not yetJun 20 21:38
sebsebsebGoForbes28: unless we include the Live CD of GnomeJun 20 21:38
GoForbes28ahJun 20 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] We need YOU! Please submit your video for #linux20th! Deadline is just two weeks away. http://t.co/eSZ4fwFJun 20 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I just installed #mustard 0.1.15 on my #nexus s running #cm what is the big changes from stable to beta?Jun 20 21:40
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GoForbes28you were suggesting it be a subject for a techbytes episodeJun 20 21:40
sebsebsebGoForbes28: well the idea is to have one of the actsual proper Mageia founders on it later on, and he was up for that beforeJun 20 21:42
sebsebsebGoForbes28: also I can talk about distros or whatever when I go on sureJun 20 21:43
sebsebsebGoForbes28: recently I been trying out the Gnome 3 ppa in Ubuntu 11.04 had some issues with thatJun 20 21:43
sebsebseband the Fedora Live CD  had issues with Gnome Shell here, but the other computer it workedJun 20 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @karsten Battle for control of embedded devices is on: AVM fighting Linux kernel's GPL http://ur1.ca/4hapf !fsfe !fsf !gnuJun 20 21:43
sebsebsebproperly enoughJun 20 21:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] suddenly, !choqok started showing new dent/tweet info in Message Indicator. #wtf !kubuntu #natty #failwhaleJun 20 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek you can, look here: http://2tu.us/3dku http://2tu.us/3dkvJun 20 21:46
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ender_33gnome 3 is coolJun 20 21:48
ender_33I still prefer Microsoft KDE4Jun 20 21:48
DaemonFCyou mean the one that doesn't let you change your theme and requires a dual core CPU and 2 gigs of RAM and a fast GPU to even work?Jun 20 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] EMI under control of citigroup may be up for sale. #oldcapitalistmodels #musicJun 20 21:50
ender_33works on my hp mini 110 perfectly fineJun 20 21:50
DaemonFClol, EMIJun 20 21:50
ender_33hyperthreading atomJun 20 21:50
ender_33almost like a dual coreJun 20 21:50
ender_332 gb ramJun 20 21:51
ender_33perhaps :)Jun 20 21:51
DaemonFCI knew they were in trouble when their CD business went to greatest hits albums at Walmart Jun 20 21:51
MinceRi think he means the one that doesn't let you decide what happens if you close the lid of your laptopJun 20 21:51
MinceRyou know, in order not to confuse youJun 20 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Foreign Policy names @EFF's @jillianyork as one of it's Top 100 Twitterati: https://eff.org/r.57bJun 20 21:51
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DaemonFCa lot of these record companies have impressive back catalogs but their current "artists" suck royal dickJun 20 21:52
ender_33im pretty sure thats in system-settingsJun 20 21:52
MinceRsame as the one that decided that m$'s idiotic idea of dragging the window up to maximize it was a good ideaJun 20 21:52
ender_33not burried in 50 menuesJun 20 21:52
ender_33mincer - I use that, its a good featureJun 20 21:52
MinceRis that apple gnome 3 or microsoft gnome 3?Jun 20 21:52
MinceRender_33: i prefer the feature which lets me move a window upwards without maximizing itJun 20 21:52
MinceRit's an even better featureJun 20 21:52
DaemonFCMinceR, Bill Hicks: "We're rock stars against drugs, cause that's what the President wants, wooohoo, we're partyin' now!"Jun 20 21:53
MinceRwhat's more, almost all window managers support itJun 20 21:53
DaemonFC:)Jun 20 21:53
ender_33mincer - you can turn it offJun 20 21:53
MinceR(including kwin, btw)Jun 20 21:53
ender_33perhaps you should stop using  GUI, MS and Apple stole the idea from XeroxJun 20 21:54
GoForbes28What does that make XFCE now?Jun 20 21:54
ender_33mincer - throw out your mouseJun 20 21:54
MinceRdunnoJun 20 21:54
MinceRender_33: perhaps you should stop using computers, someone invented that tooJun 20 21:55
MinceRGoForbes28: the only remaining major DE that's sane? :>Jun 20 21:55
ender_33mincer - im not the zealot who hates stuff just because ms and apple came up with a similar ideaJun 20 21:55
GoForbes28Hell yeah!Jun 20 21:55
MinceR224803 < ender_33> I still prefer Microsoft KDE4Jun 20 21:55
MinceRsay what?Jun 20 21:55
GoForbes28ender_33: KDE 3 already had many of the feature of 7 dummyJun 20 21:56
GoForbes28And that was pre-7Jun 20 21:56
ender_3316:51 <@MinceR> same as the one that decided that m$'s idiotic idea of dragging the window up to maximize it was a good ideaJun 20 21:56
ender_33perhaps that causes a 'random crash' ;)Jun 20 21:56
MinceRender_33: that idea is idiotic regardless of who came up with it and who uses itJun 20 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Countries all over get very worked up in a positive way about their armies but are horrified by drunken weekend brawls?Jun 20 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The worst thing is: they have lots of our money, @laurelrusswurm @satiperaJun 20 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nat King Cole is cool and always will be. #musicJun 20 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks supporters brave prison, refuse to testify in Washington http://t.co/SusdU1tJun 20 22:06
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ender_33mincer - what about left and right side dragging and having the window use that half of the screenJun 20 22:07
ender_33I find that more useful than top draggingJun 20 22:07
MinceRi don't like it if it does that instead of a normal moveJun 20 22:07
ender_33if you keep going it doesnt do itJun 20 22:08
MinceRit should offer a way to distinguish a move from a special action like thatJun 20 22:08
MinceRbut in general, i prefer menus, key combinations and buttons for this sort of thingJun 20 22:08
MinceRsuch as middle-click on the maximize button to maximize verticallyJun 20 22:08
MinceR(though i've reassigned "middle-click" to one of the thumb buttons :> )Jun 20 22:09
ender_33I hate middle click myself, my mouse scroll wheel is sensitiveJun 20 22:09
ender_33its a gamer mouseJun 20 22:09
MinceRsame hereJun 20 22:09
ender_33yeah I'd rather use a thumb buttonJun 20 22:09
ender_33good ideaJun 20 22:09
MinceRso the scroll wheel click is the last button and i rarely use itJun 20 22:09
ender_33lol I did that in duke nukemJun 20 22:09
MinceR(only to go forward in firefox)Jun 20 22:09
ender_33it uses scroll click for middle by default, and uses that for melee attackJun 20 22:09
ender_33kept switching guns when trying to meleeJun 20 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] so why did Carlo Piana knock his account on the head !flossJun 20 22:11
MinceRi don't even try using that "button" in FPS-es :>Jun 20 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera Nat King Cole is cool and always will be. #musicJun 20 22:13
GoForbes28http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/Windows_8_pre-release_at_D9_conference.pngJun 20 22:14
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GoForbes28is this an OS or a slide-show presentationJun 20 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Night cruel worldJun 20 22:15
GoForbes28Windows BAITJun 20 22:15
MinceRit's a dinosaur strugglingJun 20 22:15
MinceRalso trying to push ie yet againJun 20 22:15
GoForbes28"Microsoft has confirmed that the system requirements for Windows 8 will be the same as or lower than those of Windows 7.[23]"Jun 20 22:15
GoForbes28hahaJun 20 22:15
GoForbes28lowerJun 20 22:15
MinceRthey always say thatJun 20 22:15
GoForbes28yepJun 20 22:16
ender_33windows 7 was lower than vistaJun 20 22:16
DaemonFCMinceR, They even said it about XP if you consider the Vista Capable scamJun 20 22:16
GoForbes28sort of kinda not reallyJun 20 22:16
GoForbes28ender_33: ^Jun 20 22:16
ender_33vista on mine used over a gig and a half of ram, win7 less than 1gbJun 20 22:17
ender_33windows 8 looks like win7+ phone 7Jun 20 22:17
MinceR"buy vista7 now, it's totally new and it doesn't even use up 1GB of your RAM!"Jun 20 22:17
GoForbes28ender_33: wootJun 20 22:17
MinceR"...except in nebraska!"Jun 20 22:17
GoForbes28ender_33: In other words, like crapJun 20 22:17
ender_33mincer - its not totally new, its vista with more stuff turned off by defaultJun 20 22:18
GoForbes28ender_33: Don't forget the incomplete GUI hardware accelerationJun 20 22:18
GoForbes28ender_33: They didn't even do that muchJun 20 22:18
GoForbes28the Vista executives are still there, like Windows MailJun 20 22:18
ender_33regarding the GUI hardware accelerationJun 20 22:18
ender_33youJun 20 22:18
GoForbes28it's a half-assed effortJun 20 22:18
ender_33you're damned if you do, damned if you don'tJun 20 22:18
GoForbes28ender_33: I would doJun 20 22:19
ender_33even on the linux side of thingsJun 20 22:19
GoForbes28trueJun 20 22:19
MinceRthere's a nice way to accelerate the GUI: stop shoveling all the bloat in the world into it.Jun 20 22:19
ender_33you'll get people pinning it on some weird microsoft-novell-kde conspiracyJun 20 22:19
GoForbes28at the same time, GNU+Linux has nearly infinite optionsJun 20 22:19
MinceRand disable effects that delay the userJun 20 22:19
GoForbes28ender_33: the lack of acceleration?Jun 20 22:19
GoForbes28ender_33: Nah, I blame it on lack of resposibilityJun 20 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @dilbertdave: @fabsh @methoddan: I see Linux Outlaws came top of the Linux Format podcasting roundup - well done guys, well deserved :-DJun 20 22:20
ender_33KDE has some nice visual effectsJun 20 22:20
GoForbes28MS let GDI get ubiquitous, then tried to dump it cold turkey like the incompetents like they areJun 20 22:20
GoForbes28Hence you have all this great new GUI accelerationJun 20 22:20
GoForbes28that only works half-well with Direct2D applicationsJun 20 22:20
GoForbes28Direct2D not even being implemented in Windows itself, most of it IS STILL GDIJun 20 22:21
GoForbes28bravoJun 20 22:21
ender_33you can blame that on people holding onto old hardwareJun 20 22:21
GoForbes28NopeJun 20 22:22
GoForbes28I can blame it on short-sidedness and digging holesJun 20 22:22
GoForbes28*sightednessJun 20 22:22
GoForbes28When you only think at the very moment, eventually you get buried in your own lack of planningJun 20 22:22
DaemonFCThe Wall Street Journal is so deliciously evilJun 20 22:23
MinceRyes, and KDE is functional without the visual effectsJun 20 22:23
GoForbes28MinceR: huh?Jun 20 22:23
DaemonFCthey even have editorials by people like Karl Rove and Sarah PalinJun 20 22:23
MinceRand can do visual effects on netbooks m$ doesn't dare put aero onJun 20 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @benfell Public opinion and Endless War - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com http://n4rky.me/10aJun 20 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP's Vertica adds developer-level access (Network World): http://bit.ly/iuaIroJun 20 22:23
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DaemonFCmy favorite was when they called people who are in such poverty that they don't pay federal tax "lucky duckies"Jun 20 22:23
GoForbes28lolJun 20 22:23
GoForbes28was that PalinJun 20 22:24
GoForbes28?Jun 20 22:24
DaemonFCno, this was back in 2002Jun 20 22:24
ender_33lolJun 20 22:24
GoForbes28oh wowJun 20 22:24
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Lucky_duckiesJun 20 22:24
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DaemonFCJonathan Chait, in The New Republic, reacted to the Journal editorial by writing:Jun 20 22:24
DaemonFC    One of the things that has fascinated me about The Wall Street Journal editorial page is its occasional capacity to rise above the routine moral callousness of hack conservative punditry and attain a level of exquisite depravity normally reserved for villains in James Bond movies.[9]Jun 20 22:24
MinceR:>Jun 20 22:25
GoForbes28Live and let die.Jun 20 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @benfell Public opinion and Endless War - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com http://n4rky.me/10aJun 20 22:26
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DaemonFCMinceR, There's Trickle Down Economics, which says give all the money and tax breaks to certain people and then maybe some of it will work down to the poorJun 20 22:27
DaemonFCthe theory says that when people like Ballmer and Gates do well, everyone does betterJun 20 22:28
DaemonFCI call it trickle down povertyJun 20 22:28
DaemonFCbecause that's exactly what it isJun 20 22:28
MinceRballmer and gates are hard at work proving that theory wrongJun 20 22:28
DaemonFCyou give the rich tax breaks and they tend to horde the money and funnel it into tax havens and stock portfolios that are barely taxedJun 20 22:29
DaemonFCand the whole economy stagnatesJun 20 22:29
DaemonFCand most people do not do wellJun 20 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Good figs, excellent strawberries and awesome cherries. Yummy dessert, tummy full...Jun 20 22:30
GoForbes28daemonFC: but everybody is supposed to be rational!Jun 20 22:31
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Earned_income_tax_creditJun 20 22:31
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DaemonFCthere's how the government pays poor people to reproduceJun 20 22:31
DaemonFCalong with food stamps and TANFJun 20 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jstone RT @TEI2011: Open Hardware Summit seeks submissions: http://t.co/Q0LL78TJun 20 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @yamatt @macno this beta5 of !mustard I'm using is working like a dream! :)Jun 20 22:31
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DaemonFCyou qualify for a small tax credit if you're single with no kids, but you also have to be at least 25 years oldJun 20 22:32
DaemonFCso there were a couple years where I was 18-19 years old where I would have qualified but I wasn't 25Jun 20 22:32
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DaemonFCand so I had no tax credit coming and the same bills to pay as if I was 25 and making the same amountJun 20 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Google Backs LibreOffice http://lxnews.org/2011/06/20/google-backs-libreoffice/Jun 20 22:33
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DaemonFCso anyone under 25 is automatically screwed under this law even if they have kids, or even if they don't and would qualify for *something*Jun 20 22:33
DaemonFCthen if people claim it, they tend to be flagged for an auditJun 20 22:34
DaemonFCthe government spends thousands of dollars auditing poor people to make sure they didn't make off with a few dollarsJun 20 22:34
DaemonFCthen they don't audit rich people hardly at allJun 20 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @evan The main thing I'm learning from rdio.com is that everyone in the world listens to seriously sucky music. What's the matter wit ...Jun 20 22:35
DaemonFCso taking the tax credit can be a trap because then you could get audited, they find you got $1 you weren't supposed to, then they add the cost of the audit to what you owe themJun 20 22:35
DaemonFCand then before you know it they take your car or somethingJun 20 22:35
DaemonFCto pay them back for the auditJun 20 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Newsnight should be interesting why do women spend all their lives trying to look like a freshly blossomed young girl? #sparkswillflyJun 20 22:36
DaemonFCI was reading an article about how a single mother making wages under the poverty line got her car stolen by the IRS to cover the costs of a tax audit where they found she owed them $23Jun 20 22:37
DaemonFCtaking that credit is like a lottery for the poorJun 20 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Foreign Policy names @EFF's @jilliancyork as one of its Top 100 Twitterati: https://eff.org/r.57bJun 20 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Testing new #Replicant image -- #Android with no proprietary software. Nice to see the progress.Jun 20 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mark Urban one of the last shreds of BBC journalistic integrity.Jun 20 22:38
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DaemonFCmaybe you get a few hundred dollars, and maybe they come back on you and start seizing your property because you made a mistake on the form somewhereJun 20 22:38
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MinceRyay for reliable power serviceJun 20 22:40
DaemonFCrolling blackouts in Mincerstan Jun 20 22:40
MinceRmore like rolling incompetenceJun 20 22:41
DaemonFCI can't talk, Duke Energy blacks out the entire county sometimes because a tree branch fell on a power lineJun 20 22:41
MinceRand my home server sucks tooJun 20 22:41
DaemonFCand then gets it running again 6-12 hours laterJun 20 22:41
MinceRbut are you living in a capital city?Jun 20 22:41
DaemonFChardlyJun 20 22:41
DaemonFCMinceR, The state regulation of the power companies here is paper thinJun 20 22:42
DaemonFCthey get away with such unreliable infrastructure it's a miracle it works as well as it doesJun 20 22:42
DaemonFCthe US is putting a better power grid in Baghdad than we have in most of our own citiesJun 20 22:43
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DaemonFCMinceR, There's three grids that cover all of the United StatesJun 20 22:43
DaemonFCEast, West, and TexasJun 20 22:44
DaemonFCthe one in Texas is totally self-containedJun 20 22:44
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DaemonFCthey escape a lot of federal regulation thereJun 20 22:44
DaemonFCpower is dirt cheapJun 20 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] License or public domain for government works? http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/27895 #PSI #opengovJun 20 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @evan You look like Tyres O'Flaherty from spaced (without the glasses) It's a good thing he can dance to anything.Jun 20 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi @sheytan @pete thanks, guys!Jun 20 22:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: Thanks to everyone for the nice words about the LXF review. It was certainly good to see LO come top in the magazineJun 20 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Really nice surprise about the LXF roundup. Didn't expect that. :)Jun 20 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Paxman asking a foreigner if their ruler can come from more than one family. Irony lost on him.Jun 20 22:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] RecallMonkey finds what you forget http://mozillalabs.com/prospector/2011/06/20/recallmonkey-finds-what-you-forget/Jun 20 22:56
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schestowitzhhmm. netsplitsJun 20 22:57
schestowitzbtw, reading some scientific papers tonight, might not be in IRC till morningJun 20 22:58
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DaemonFCMinceR, https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Graphics_Device_Interface&action=historysubmit&diff=435352098&oldid=424574433Jun 20 22:59
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*DaemonFC edits Wikipedia sometimesJun 20 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jakublipinski: Escape your search engine filter bubble - http://dontbubble.us/ #search #ethics #culture #informationfunnel #TEDJun 20 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ooh La la la laJun 20 23:00
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MinceR:>Jun 20 23:00
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MinceRDaemonFC: can gdi and user capacity still run out in newest winblows versions?Jun 20 23:00
DaemonFCin theory, they couldJun 20 23:01
DaemonFCbut the limit on objects is so large that you'd have to have several gigabytes of RAM filled with nothing but GDI objects to do itJun 20 23:01
MinceR:>Jun 20 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods, I'm tired. Off to bed. Stay rocknroll, people!Jun 20 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @nandaweiden: Amanhã participarei de um bate-papo online via webcast da @4linux sobre a importância de colaborar com comunidade SLJun 20 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @evan It is a grower your character is funny.Jun 20 23:01
DaemonFCthat's also why applications still leak GDI objects and never reclaim them but it's not a huge problem anymore (aside from the RAM not being reclaimed)Jun 20 23:02
DaemonFCMinceR, What's more likely to happen is a program overflowing its own limit and causing itself to malfunctionJun 20 23:02
DaemonFCsince each program can only use 10,000 objects by defaultJun 20 23:02
DaemonFCInternet Explorer is still known to do this if you leave it running long enoughJun 20 23:03
DaemonFCMinceR, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/IE7_Errors_caused_by_10000_GDI_Objects_1.jpgJun 20 23:04
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DaemonFCIE 7 doing that on XPJun 20 23:04
DaemonFCbut the damage is contained to the offending programJun 20 23:04
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DaemonFCshutting it down will clear things upJun 20 23:04
DaemonFCin Windows 9x, going past 1,200 objects globally would cause the whole system to become flaky and eventually crashJun 20 23:05
DaemonFCthat's why you had to reboot Windows 98 daily, or wait for it to crash Jun 20 23:06
DaemonFCthe Windows shell itself was so poorly designed that it would leak GDI objectsJun 20 23:06
DaemonFCpredictably Jun 20 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] heise security • Attack on Israeli Certificate Authority http://ping.fm/uMLvkJun 20 23:06
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DaemonFCso even sitting there doing nothing, Windows 9x will eventually blue screenJun 20 23:06
DaemonFCMinceR, They actually did fix up the resource leaks in recent Explorer versionsJun 20 23:07
MinceR:>Jun 20 23:08
DaemonFCif there's anything good to say about Vista/7, that would be my first pointJun 20 23:08
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DaemonFCMinceR, The recent problem is bloated web browsersJun 20 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Call for Participation: Workshops and BoFs at the Desktop Summit 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/448508/rssJun 20 23:10
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DaemonFCall of them seem to swell up to take hundreds of megs or even over a gigabyte of RAM nowJun 20 23:10
MinceRi suspect that is at least in part due to the web itself being bloatedJun 20 23:11
MinceRall sorts of baroque languages and formats with all sorts of bug compatibility requiredJun 20 23:12
DaemonFCright, and some of that is due to compatibility with broken sites made for IEJun 20 23:12
DaemonFCactually, a good deal of thatJun 20 23:12
MinceRindeedJun 20 23:13
DaemonFCeven IE has a list of several hundred websites that automatically get IE 6 or IE 7 modeJun 20 23:13
DaemonFCand they update that every monthJun 20 23:13
DaemonFCI hand edited every page on the site I used to haveJun 20 23:14
DaemonFCI restricted myself to a subset of HTML that worked fairly well between IE, Netscape, and OperaJun 20 23:14
DaemonFCand when it looked "right", it didn't comply with standardsJun 20 23:14
DaemonFCbut it "looked right"Jun 20 23:15
DaemonFCand that was the best that could be done Jun 20 23:15
DaemonFChttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/20/groups-blast-laud-high-court-for-decision-against-nations-largest/Jun 20 23:17
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DaemonFCSupreme Court hands Walmart a win on a silver platterJun 20 23:17
DaemonFCthey probably bribed the judgesJun 20 23:17
MinceRi never really had the time to make a complex siteJun 20 23:18
MinceRgnJun 20 23:19
DaemonFChttp://www.unwiredview.com/2011/06/20/7-inch-acer-iconia-tab-a100-gets-priced-at-walmart/Jun 20 23:20
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DaemonFCnot badJun 20 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The four places for lunch with Assange & Zizek auctioned for just over US,000. Thanks for supporting our mission!Jun 20 23:26
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DaemonFCOpera Next now supports Angry Birds, hehJun 20 23:27
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Mom's birthday is coming up, trying to think of what to get for herJun 20 23:33
DaemonFCshe's said she was thinking about getting herself a Kindle, a few months agoJun 20 23:33
DaemonFCbut I'm just not real sure about the whole ereader thingJun 20 23:33
DaemonFCit seems to be like the portable audio player market was several years ago where anything you got legitimately would be coated in DRMJun 20 23:34
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DaemonFCI still read all my books as actual booksJun 20 23:35
DaemonFCit's only a couple blocks to the library Jun 20 23:35
DaemonFCI can't really justify having an ereader that only takes books in proprietary format with DRM, at full price Jun 20 23:35
DaemonFCa lot of the stuff I read is actually cheaper to buy used on Amazon in hardback than it is to get a file downloaded to their $200 kindleJun 20 23:36
DaemonFCtheir ads seem to center on how bulky books are compared to the kindle, which can hold thousands of themJun 20 23:37
DaemonFCwhy do you need to take thousands of books with you?Jun 20 23:38
DaemonFCif I go somewhere for a day trip I might pack a book to take along if I get boredJun 20 23:38
DaemonFCI've never felt the need to have 10,000 books with meJun 20 23:39
DaemonFCit's something to make people feel smug about themselvesJun 20 23:39
DaemonFC"Oh look at me, I must be so smart because I can have all these books with me!"Jun 20 23:40
DaemonFC1. Daniel Steele novels don't count, in fact they take away from your claim of intellectual superiority.Jun 20 23:41
DaemonFC2. How many of them have you actually read so far? Does the kindle come with a magical device that increases your reading rate by beaming all of the books into your brain or something? no?Jun 20 23:41
DaemonFCI don't know, I'm just tired of being assaulted with Kindle ads on Amazon and everyone telling me about their Kindle, it's officially the new Mac.Jun 20 23:42
DaemonFCMinceR, comments?Jun 20 23:42
cubezzzcan't kindle use non-DRM formats too?Jun 20 23:52
cubezzzand if kindle is no good, was is the best alternative?Jun 20 23:52
cubezzzwas -> whatJun 20 23:52
ThistleWebas far as I understand kindle works fine with non-DRMJun 20 23:52
ThistleWebit does appear the best ereader on the marketJun 20 23:53
ThistleWebmy sony pocket reader can too, it's great but not as good value compared to the new kindleJun 20 23:53
DaemonFCKindle supports PDF documentsJun 20 23:54
cubezzzcan the new kindle do colour?Jun 20 23:54
ThistleWebpdf is horrid on ereadersJun 20 23:54
ThistleWebdon't think soJun 20 23:55
ThistleWebcolour is a different concept from eInkJun 20 23:55
ThistleWebfor ebooks, eink is classJun 20 23:55
cubezzzwell I don't like the way big fat paperbacks always seem to disintegrateJun 20 23:56
cubezzzand can't be layed flatJun 20 23:56
ThistleWebmy parents are notoriously slow adopters of new tech, but both were hooked within a few mins when I showed them my ereaderJun 20 23:56
cubezzzwhy does Stallman call it the swindle?Jun 20 23:56
ThistleWeball I heard for about 30mins was variants of "I can't belive how much that looks like a paperback"Jun 20 23:57
ThistleWebamazon can reach in and delete purchases you've madeJun 20 23:57
ThistleWebwell, they modified that, to delete it from your cloud storage, but not local device, so if you accidentally delete it and want to resync, it aint thereJun 20 23:57
ThistleWebbut initially they did reach in and delete 1984, as well as refund the costJun 20 23:58
cubezzzthat's a bit off-puttingJun 20 23:58
DaemonFCit's like the purchase NEVER HAPPENEDJun 20 23:58
DaemonFCspookyJun 20 23:58
ThistleWebDaemonFC: exactlyJun 20 23:58
cubezzzwhy did they do that?Jun 20 23:58
ThistleWebit's public domain in some countries, not othersJun 20 23:58
ThistleWebso instead of being surgical, they applied it worldwideJun 20 23:59
ThistleWeboffhand I think it's legal in canada, not the US, so canadians got screwedJun 20 23:59
ThistleWebcanada among other countriesJun 20 23:59

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