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twitterno, tivo will only run signed codeOct 08 00:00
schestowitzcubezzz: it's hardware basedOct 08 00:00
cubezzzcan't you just change the firmware?Oct 08 00:00
schestowitzprobably not romOct 08 00:00
twitterhacking it would be a matter of replacing chipsOct 08 00:00
schestowitzbut chippedOct 08 00:00
cubezzzright, hardware hackOct 08 00:00
twitterand the US will put you in jail for selling the chipsOct 08 00:01
cubezzzbut I'm not in the USOct 08 00:01
schestowitzbut won't put Ballmer in jailOct 08 00:01
cubezzz;-)Oct 08 00:01
schestowitzfor RICO ACT violationsOct 08 00:01
schestowitzThe US loses its reputationOct 08 00:01
twitter!google chipping jailOct 08 00:01
schestowitzEsp. after 2008Oct 08 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - RFID chip: Foundation of the electronic jail Alex Jones' Infowars ... | http://www.infowars.com/rfid-chip-foundation-of-the-electronic-jail/Oct 08 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Hindu : Cities / Delhi : High-profile prisoners chipping in for ... | http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/article582323.eceOct 08 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Wentworth Miller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wentworth_MillerOct 08 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Shawshank Prison Productivity - InternetIndependence.com | http://internetindependence.com/shawshank-prison-productivityOct 08 00:01
schestowitzWall Street crashOct 08 00:01
schestowitzmany see it as a liability and catalystOct 08 00:01
twitter!chip sony PS prisonOct 08 00:02
schestowitzsee the protests in Greece over US bankers and austerity measuresOct 08 00:02
schestowitzgoogle itOct 08 00:02
schestowitzor bong itOct 08 00:02
twitter!google chip sony jailOct 08 00:02
cubezzzI see that the tivo hacking has kind of disappeared from the webOct 08 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - DailyTech - Facing Prison, PS3 Hacker Tells Sony: You'll Have to ... | http://www.dailytech.com/Facing%2BPrison%2BPS3%2BHacker%2BTells%2BSony%2BYoull%2BHave%2Bto%2BKill%2BMe%2Bto%2BSilence%2BMe/article21939.htmOct 08 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - All the latest news, information, and file downloads from the Sony ... | http://psx-scene.com/Oct 08 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - iPhone Hacker Geohot Sued by Sony for Jailbreaking the ... | http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/01/12/iphone-hacker-geohot-sued-by-sony-for-jailbreaking-the-playstation-3/Oct 08 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - PS3 Jailbreaking: Is it Worth it? | http://www.techtree.com/India/Features/PS3_Jailbreaking_Is_it_Worth_it/551-114940-899.htmlOct 08 00:02
schestowitzBANG it like a Microsoft crook :-)Oct 08 00:02
twitter!bong bongOct 08 00:02
twitter!bing bongOct 08 00:02
schestowitzwho's there?Oct 08 00:02
twitterthat's what I expectedOct 08 00:02
schestowitzSweatyB, is that you?Oct 08 00:03
schestowitz!google ballmer fired bing youtubeOct 08 00:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ex-Microsoft employee remembers the last sound he ... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7GM4Lt5k24sOct 08 00:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bing! Ballmer Says You're Fired [VIDEO] | http://mashable.com/2009/12/19/bing-youre-fired/Oct 08 00:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Did Ballmer really fire someone for not saying Bing with enough ... | http://www.geek.com/articles/news/did-ballmer-really-fire-someone-for-not-saying-bing-with-enough-enthusiasm-20091220/Oct 08 00:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Fires An Employee For Not Yelling Out ... | http://techdusts.com/2009/12/21/microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer-fires-employee-video-bing/Oct 08 00:03
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twitterhow did you guess? Oct 08 00:03
schestowitzIt was  a fakeOct 08 00:03
cubezzzbing! bing!Oct 08 00:03
schestowitzbut it went viral, very funnyOct 08 00:03
twitterit was funny and believable Oct 08 00:03
schestowitzcubezzz: maybe they shut it dowjnOct 08 00:04
schestowitz3 bullets in the napeOct 08 00:04
cubezzznot as funny as the irc one thoughOct 08 00:04
schestowitzit lost $1 bn PER quarterOct 08 00:04
schestowitzSo they put it out of its miseryOct 08 00:04
schestowitzBesides you don't want Bong supportOct 08 00:04
schestowitzAs they'll just rename it againOct 08 00:04
schestowitzThe forvever-shifting brandOct 08 00:04
schestowitzMaybe they should call it "Giggle " next timeOct 08 00:04
schestowitzBecause you giggle when you see people using itOct 08 00:04
schestowitzit implies that are dumbOct 08 00:05
schestowitz!google iq internet explorer study fakeOct 08 00:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Low IQ Internet Explorer Study A Fake? | WinBeta | http://www.winbeta.org/%3Fq%3Dnews/low-iq-internet-explorer-study-fakeOct 08 00:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Internet Explorer Users Have Lower IQ Story a Hoax, Christian News | http://www.christianpost.com/news/internet-explorer-users-have-lower-iq-story-fake-53334/Oct 08 00:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Internet Explorer IQ Study Was 'A Fake Survey' - TechChunks ... | http://techchunks.com/technology/internet-explorer-iq-study-was-an-elaborate-hoax/Oct 08 00:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Correction: Internet Explorer IQ Study Was a Fake | http://blog.laptopmag.com/internet-explorer-iq-study-was-a-fakeOct 08 00:05
schestowitzBut it's true thoughOct 08 00:05
MinceRor they'll call it Windows Dead SearchOct 08 00:05
MinceRbecause it's DeadOct 08 00:05
schestowitzCorrelation between stupidity ans passiveness ("it's there by default, so..")Oct 08 00:05
twitterI've read that vendors price things higher if they arrive with IEOct 08 00:05
schestowitzMinceR: They could cal it Windows SteveOct 08 00:05
MinceRand even higher if they arrive with safari?Oct 08 00:06
MinceRschestowitz: indeedOct 08 00:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: I want you to use Internet Explorer......without jamming this crayon in your eyeOct 08 00:06
DaemonFCdo you think you can manage that for me?Oct 08 00:06
DaemonFC:DOct 08 00:06
schestowitzI'll squirt you with my zuneOct 08 00:07
schestowitz!google zune squirtingOct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Zune 'squirts,' apparently | The Microsoft Blog - seattlepi.com | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2006/11/20/zune-squirts-apparently/Oct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 'Squirting' with the Zune | ZuneSphere | http://www.zunesphere.com/2006/11/22/squirting-with-the-zune/Oct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Zune Should Go Beyond 'Squirting' - The Daily Beast | http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2006/11/26/zune-should-go-beyond-squirting.htmlOct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ten More Myths of Zune | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Q4.06/AFB155D7-1DDB-41E2-90B2-35EC1763E791.htmlOct 08 00:07
schestowitz!google zune deadOct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Zune's dead… (confirmed) | 9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence | http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/03/zunes-dead-2/Oct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Zune is dead, long live Zune -- Engadget | http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/zune-is-dead-long-live-zune/Oct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Zune Is Dead | http://www.businessinsider.com/ding-dong-the-zune-is-finally-dead-2011-10Oct 08 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft: Zune is not dead... yet | http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/microsoft-zune-is-not-dead-yet/Oct 08 00:07
MinceRi'll shine some SilverLight on youOct 08 00:07
cubezzznoo, not moonlightOct 08 00:08
schestowitzwp7 depended on wpfOct 08 00:08
schestowitzit's all doomed nowOct 08 00:08
schestowitzthe chain reaction{tm}Oct 08 00:08
schestowitzMicrovold will become a major patent trollOct 08 00:08
DaemonFCWE SHOULD USE BING!!!!! (He's watching!)Oct 08 00:08
DaemonFCBING IS TERRIFIC!!!! (He'll kill our families next!)Oct 08 00:08
MinceRwho'Oct 08 00:08
schestowitzI'll have a bign macOct 08 00:08
MinceRwho's watching?Oct 08 00:08
*DaemonFC whispers the fat swety guy who just fired that dudeOct 08 00:09
schestowitzwe're stalked at the momentOct 08 00:09
DaemonFCshhhhh!!!Oct 08 00:09
schestowitzby a lifeless schmuck who calls himself s*itOct 08 00:09
MinceRSSH!Oct 08 00:09
schestowitzlooking to dig dirtOct 08 00:09
schestowitzit's funny when people do thatOct 08 00:09
schestowitzTheir whole life and sole hobby is trolling techrightsOct 08 00:09
schestowitzI think that just amplifies the signalOct 08 00:10
MinceRsome other losers are reading the public logs, also looking for dirtOct 08 00:10
MinceR(hi!)Oct 08 00:10
schestowitzyes, mono ones tooOct 08 00:10
schestowitzIt's funnyOct 08 00:10
twitterOne thing that's interesting to me is that the guy that's running Apple now is responsible for the move of manufacturing to China and he comes from Alabama, the unofficial hate state.  Tim Cook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_CookOct 08 00:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tim Cook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 63.01 KBOct 08 00:10
schestowitzThey think they cause damage by quoting these, when in fact they only raise awareness of the siteOct 08 00:10
schestowitzsame when apache goes into a funny state and they think the server is downOct 08 00:10
schestowitztwitter: hate of what?Oct 08 00:11
schestowitzBlacks?Oct 08 00:11
schestowitzGays too?Oct 08 00:11
schestowitzHe's gay BTWOct 08 00:11
schestowitzAnd he is a patent bullyOct 08 00:11
twitterCook?Oct 08 00:11
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MinceReveryone who's not exactly the same as them?Oct 08 00:11
schestowitzAnd he is a patent bullySo much for stereotypesOct 08 00:11
schestowitztwitter: yesOct 08 00:11
schestowitzopenly gayOct 08 00:11
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twittergood for him, but there's a lot of Bible Belt in Apple's genes Oct 08 00:12
schestowitzit's a new age religionOct 08 00:12
schestowitza fashion statementOct 08 00:12
schestowitzas homer called itOct 08 00:12
twitterSelf righteous, demanding reverence and supplication.Oct 08 00:12
schestowitzI call these accessories labelOct 08 00:12
schestowitzjust fouind out cotton and starts printing shirts with a logoa nd heavy-handed marketing like reason this particular cotton brand makes you superior to our peersOct 08 00:13
twitterWhile Microsoft benefits most from the US "IP Regime" Apple is full of it.Oct 08 00:13
schestowitzthey're in the same teamOct 08 00:14
MinceRgnOct 08 00:14
schestowitznot so much more than competing gangsOct 08 00:14
cubezzzvi Oct 08 00:14
cubezzzoopsOct 08 00:14
schestowitzTheir real enemy is the policeOct 08 00:14
MinceRvimOct 08 00:14
schestowitznot one anotherOct 08 00:14
schestowitzthey can share the lootOct 08 00:14
schestowitzJust need to keep free software and regulators at bayOct 08 00:14
schestowitzThey can then slice the looting shareOct 08 00:14
schestowitzLike big banksOct 08 00:14
schestowitzThey don't need to fight in the market, they just need to fight against congress by bribing it and shooting the regulators (or bribing them with jobs and such) to make them marionettesOct 08 00:15
twitterThe hate state reputation these days, by the way, is for the worst anti-immigrant law in the country.  Oct 08 00:15
schestowitzI would have though arizonaOct 08 00:15
twitterno, Alabama out did themOct 08 00:16
schestowitz*thoughtOct 08 00:16
schestowitzcongratsOct 08 00:16
twitterYou have not been paying attention to my links.Oct 08 00:16
schestowitz#1Oct 08 00:16
schestowitztwitter: I did, I read them allOct 08 00:16
twitterIt's pretty much ALEC boilerplate legislation but Alabama did it better.  :-)Oct 08 00:17
schestowitzArizona made more headlines at the time with that stop-and-demand-ID lunacyOct 08 00:17
schestowitzCMD hasn't published much recentlyOct 08 00:17
DaemonFCschestowitz: it's already the law in every state that you have to show ID if the police ask for itOct 08 00:17
twitterIt makes it so kids going to school have to show their papers and criminalizes any aid given to undocumented peopleOct 08 00:17
schestowitzALEC and Wisconsin took up all their effortsOct 08 00:17
DaemonFCif you don't have any, you can get jammed up until they figure out who you areOct 08 00:18
twitterthe ALEC stuff is greatOct 08 00:18
schestowitzSo the site has been les interesting then before, when it also linked to external articlesOct 08 00:18
twitterpeople can be fined and jailed for driving people to homeless shelters Oct 08 00:18
schestowitz> Computer Virus Hits U.S. Drone FleetOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> From: Robin T Cox <nomail@nomail.net>Oct 08 00:19
schestowitz>   Date: Friday 07 Oct 2011 23:55:58Oct 08 00:19
schestowitz>   Groups:  comp.os.linux.advocacyOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/Oct 08 00:19
schestowitz> Oct 08 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exclusive: Computer Virus Hits U.S. Drone Fleet | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 57.86 KBOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> <quote>Oct 08 00:19
schestowitz> Military network security specialists aren’t sure whether the virus andOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> its so-called “keylogger” payload were introduced intentionally or byOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> accident; it may be a common piece of malware that just happened to makeOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> its way into these sensitive networks. The specialists don’t know exactlyOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> how far the virus has spread. But they’re sure that the infection has hitOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> both classified and unclassified machines at Creech. That raises theOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> possibility, at least, that secret data may have been captured by theOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> keylogger, and then transmitted over the public internet to someoneOct 08 00:19
schestowitz> outside the military chain of command.Oct 08 00:19
schestowitzkeyloggerOct 08 00:19
schestowitzyes, Windows I betOct 08 00:19
twitteryou can make those for other OS, but everything sounds so typical of WindowsOct 08 00:20
twitterand really if it was gnu/linux, the Microsoft press would be happy to tell us.Oct 08 00:20
DaemonFCtwitter: But poor people did it to themselves. They're lazy and unmotivated, and they're all just looking for a handout. If they bathed every now and then, maybe they'd do better, but they are all fairly uneducated, that doesn't meant they can't scrub toilets and do other menial labor for minimum wage. :)Oct 08 00:21
*DaemonFC waits for his head to explodeOct 08 00:21
twitterA county in Alabama offered people the choice of jail or church.Oct 08 00:22
schestowitzyeah.. crazyOct 08 00:22
twitterso that's the stateOct 08 00:23
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkYXu9HDvNsOct 08 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We Suck And Here's Why       - YouTube .::. Size~: 105.8 KBOct 08 00:23
schestowitzit's about thatOct 08 00:23
schestowitzI get a lot of my 'news' from youtube, where possibleOct 08 00:23
DaemonFCtwitter: I used to have sympathy for them too, but that was before the fair and balanced fox news people told me that it's a well established fact that some people say they're all on drugsOct 08 00:24
schestowitzfer&buhlsedOct 08 00:25
schestowitzFox lost BeckOct 08 00:25
schestowitzI bet they have no high ratings like beforeOct 08 00:25
twitterI've seen that guy beforeOct 08 00:25
schestowitzmaybe through hereOct 08 00:25
schestowitzhe's making decent videosOct 08 00:25
schestowitzYou can see who I subsribed to in youtube, it's all publicOct 08 00:26
DaemonFCGlenn Beck is either crazy, an attention whore, or bothOct 08 00:26
DaemonFChe seems like a bipolar schizophrenic on a pot of coffeeOct 08 00:26
DaemonFCbut maybe that's to identify better with his fansOct 08 00:26
twitterthe opinion is right, but he's not very well informedOct 08 00:26
schestowitzWatch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cFlaqEsyRgOct 08 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phil's Rant on Science Funding       - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.84 KBOct 08 00:27
schestowitztwitter: it's not his goalOct 08 00:27
twitterit would be a little better if he knew that the judge expected weekly written reports from church by the prisoner Oct 08 00:28
twitterbecause that's kind of funnyOct 08 00:28
twitterand they did let people chose which church to go to but I'm not sure if anyone could find anything but one or two denominations of christian church Oct 08 00:30
schestowitzjudge?Oct 08 00:31
schestowitzLOLOct 08 00:31
schestowitzWhat is he, school teacher checking homework?Oct 08 00:31
twitteryepOct 08 00:31
schestowitzyou could open up a church that's an Internet CafeOct 08 00:31
schestowitzThe weekly report will say you surfed 4chan and trolled some kidsOct 08 00:32
schestowitz"The Church Cafe"Oct 08 00:32
schestowitzAll Sunday... trolls gonna trollOct 08 00:32
twitterthere was a church of elvis in baton rouge Oct 08 00:32
schestowitzcoolOct 08 00:33
twitterthey had a little shrine and everythingOct 08 00:33
schestowitzThey probabyl have nice tunes thereOct 08 00:33
schestowitzAnd singingOct 08 00:33
twitterthen the bar burnt downOct 08 00:33
schestowitzoh :-(Oct 08 00:33
schestowitzmaybe the KK saw someone black in thereOct 08 00:33
schestowitz*KKKOct 08 00:33
twittermy friend described it as a place where you wanted to put on a condom before you pulled up a bar stoolOct 08 00:33
twitterit looked like any other bar to meOct 08 00:34
schestowitzalcoholic beverages?Oct 08 00:34
twitterof courseOct 08 00:34
twitterpoolOct 08 00:34
schestowitz"I'll have the blood" (Red wine)Oct 08 00:34
schestowitz"with peanuts"Oct 08 00:34
twitterI'm not sure they had wineOct 08 00:34
schestowitzdid they serve Bloody Mary?Oct 08 00:35
schestowitz!google Bloody Mary recipeOct 08 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bloody Mary Recipes | http://www.drinksmix.net/bloody_mary_recipes.htmOct 08 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bloody Mary recipe - DrinksMixer | http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink581.htmlOct 08 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Bloody Mary Recipe | http://www.mybigfatbloodymary.com/Oct 08 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Bloody Mary (cocktail) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Mary_(cocktail)Oct 08 00:35
schestowitzCan you imagine a procession going on when someone in the distant bar yells "Another bloody mary!"Oct 08 00:36
schestowitzThat would be good for Black AdderOct 08 00:36
twitteryou can see the bar if you watch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex,_Lies,_and_VideotapeOct 08 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sex, Lies, and Videotape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 60.95 KBOct 08 00:38
schestowitzNever haveOct 08 00:38
schestowitzI don't watch many films anymoreOct 08 00:38
schestowitztl ;drOct 08 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Powers HP's Public Cloud http://ur1.ca/5bz9mOct 08 00:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Powers HP's Public Cloud - Softpedia .::. Size~: 44.74 KBOct 08 00:40
twitteranyway, they had an elvis shrine, but the place was a holeOct 08 00:40
schestowitzWould that qualify as punishment?Oct 08 00:45
twitternah, it was nice enough.Oct 08 00:47
twitterbut some people might not like writing essays Oct 08 00:47
schestowitz"In short, I don't believe in almost everything and every way that Steve Jobs and Apple operate. " http://marcelgagne.com/content/my-reflections-steve-jobsOct 08 00:48
schestowitztwitter: :-)Oct 08 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Reflections On Steve Jobs | Marcel Gagné .::. Size~: 37.47 KBOct 08 00:48
twitterhttp://gawker.com/5847344Oct 08 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve Jobs .::. Size~: 91.26 KBOct 08 00:49
twitterI've got a few PowerPC macs.  They run debian better than intel.Oct 08 00:51
twittergawker is too fawning.  RMS got it right.Oct 08 00:53
twitterlater, I've got work to do.Oct 08 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The FBI again thwarts its own Terror plot - #FBI - Salon.com - #usa #falseflag http://ur1.ca/5bzivOct 08 00:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The FBI again thwarts its own Terror plot -   FBI - Salon.com .::. Size~: 126.38 KBOct 08 00:55
schestowitzmany mac users in sf bay area read gawker, so it has to be restrainedOct 08 00:55
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84475853Oct 08 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 23:49:39 UTC - Identi.ca: What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve Jobs http://ur1.ca/5bzh7 #appleOct 08 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve Jobs .::. Size~: 91.29 KBOct 08 00:55
cubezzzoh btw...Oct 08 00:56
cubezzzit is quite possible that a reinstall of Linux will keep windows from bootingOct 08 00:57
cubezzzit happens the other way tooOct 08 00:57
schestowitzhow do you install Linux?Oct 08 00:58
schestowitzI last installed from sd card :-)Oct 08 00:58
schestowitzdebian via USBOct 08 00:58
schestowitzWhich reminds meOct 08 00:58
schestowitz> Snit's a miserable human being and a fscking troll.Oct 08 00:58
schestowitz> Oct 08 00:58
schestowitz> I don't want to read his whining and insulting bullshit, please.Oct 08 00:58
schestowitz> Oct 08 00:58
schestowitz> Roy, for all his faults, is obviously a better human being than Snit.Oct 08 00:58
schestowitz> Oct 08 00:58
schestowitz> And Stallman?  Snit isn't fit to carry his thumb drive.Oct 08 00:58
schestowitzThat last line is funnyOct 08 00:58
cubezzzI install via live cd or dvd usuallyOct 08 00:59
cubezzza few customers wanted windows 7 plus fedora 15Oct 08 00:59
cubezzzit's a pain to support dual boot thoughOct 08 00:59
schestowitzI neve  tried reallyOct 08 01:02
schestowitzif windows is there firstOct 08 01:02
schestowitzthen most distros will parrition it okOct 08 01:02
schestowitzwhich they doOct 08 01:02
cubezzzwindows is usually there first if you buy from a storeOct 08 01:02
schestowitzI can't be bothered to learn how to mess with Windows to accommodate for LinuxOct 08 01:02
schestowitzAlthough I saw that some tools existOct 08 01:02
cubezzzit's not by choice :-/Oct 08 01:03
schestowitzI once had to defrag a windows machine to ensure the new Linux partition will have enougb space (for Fedora 14 IIRC)Oct 08 01:03
cubezzzif it was for me, I'd wouldn't botherOct 08 01:03
schestowitznot mine BTWOct 08 01:03
schestowitzI'm not sure if I did this or the user did itOct 08 01:03
schestowitzanyway, it's not a problem for me really, I can use a free sw OS happilyOct 08 01:04
schestowitzUnlike 10 years agoOct 08 01:04
schestowitzI can do all web video, run lots of applications (used wine just once), and there is generally no barrierOct 08 01:04
cubezzzwell I was farting around with BeOS in 1997Oct 08 01:05
cubezzzI got stuck on microsoft longer than I expected Oct 08 01:07
schestowitzSam Dean also rolls over for Steve, being a mac user http://ostatic.com/blog/my-favorite-steve-jobs-quote?Oct 08 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Favorite Steve Jobs Quote .::. Size~: 34.89 KBOct 08 01:07
schestowitzcubezzz: now you preach about alternatives to Microsoft on your showOct 08 01:07
schestowitzbtw, why do you say lai-nox?Oct 08 01:08
schestowitzYou say it in all your episodesOct 08 01:08
cubezzzactually I think I said "leye-nix"Oct 08 01:08
cubezzzdid I say lai-nox? :)Oct 08 01:08
schestowitzlie-noxOct 08 01:08
cubezzzlinus -> lie-nox Oct 08 01:09
cubezzzI guess that's whyOct 08 01:09
schestowitzyeahOct 08 01:09
schestowitzbut linux is not pronnounced like linusOct 08 01:09
schestowitzhe said so himselfOct 08 01:09
schestowitz!google linus how to say linuxOct 08 01:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Paul Sladen: Howto pronounce Linux | http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/Oct 08 01:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linus Torvalds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_TorvaldsOct 08 01:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How To Pronounce Linus - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D8H0zl2-VThEOct 08 01:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - [Phoronix] Say Hello To Linux 3.0; Linus Just Tagged 3.0-rc1 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3DOTUwMgOct 08 01:09
cubezzzI'm sure I'm not the only one to do that Oct 08 01:09
schestowitztrueOct 08 01:09
schestowitzbut it's incorrectOct 08 01:09
schestowitzsee [3]Oct 08 01:10
schestowitzfrom Linus himselfOct 08 01:10
cubezzzhe saids leenuxOct 08 01:10
cubezzzanyways...Oct 08 01:10
cubezzzsome people say linixOct 08 01:11
schestowitzhehe , leads me to Oct 08 01:11
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TIy3GqS-cd8Oct 08 01:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reporter Touches a 6000 volt Fence       - YouTube .::. Size~: 86.28 KBOct 08 01:11
cubezzzhe could have just stuck L in front of unixOct 08 01:11
schestowitzgnu is anogherOct 08 01:12
cubezzzwhy is it "ux" at the end?Oct 08 01:12
schestowitz<another funny oneOct 08 01:12
schestowitzsome people I work with say G N UOct 08 01:12
cubezzzdoesn't really make senseOct 08 01:12
schestowitzloon ixOct 08 01:12
cubezzzGa-NUOct 08 01:12
cubezzzGa-Nu-NixOct 08 01:13
cubezzztomayto to-Mah-toOct 08 01:14
schestowitz> Indeed there were things Jobs did while at Apple that were deeplyOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> disturbing. Rude, dismissive, hostile, spiteful: AppleOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> employees--the ones not bound by confidentialityOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> agreements--have had a different story to tell over the yearsOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> about Jobs and the bullying, manipulation and fear that followed himOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> around Apple. Jobs contributed to global problems, too. Apple'sOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> success has been built literally on the backs of Chinese workers,Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz> many of them children and all of them enduring long shifts and theOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> specter of brutal penalties for mistakes. And, for all his talk ofOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> enabling individual expression, Jobs imposed paranoid rules thatOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> centralized control of who could say what on his devices and in hisOct 08 01:24
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schestowitz> company.Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz> Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz> . . .Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz> Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz> Before he was deposed from Apple the first time around, Jobs alreadyOct 08 01:24
sebsebseb Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz> had a reputation internally for acting like a tyrant. Jobs regularlyOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> belittled people, swore at them, and pressured them until theyOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> reached their breaking point. In the pursuit of greatness he castOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> aside politeness and empathy. His verbal abuse never stopped. JustOct 08 01:24
schestowitz> last month Fortune reported about a half-hour "public humiliation"Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz> Jobs doled out to one Apple team ...Oct 08 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Obama's "Millionaire Tax" Collected Over Next Ten Years Will Plug 4 Months Worth Of Deficit | ZeroHedge #collapse http://ur1.ca/5bzznOct 08 01:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hands Off Our Land: Loss of green spaces breeds social strife, warns #Mears - Telegraph - #bushcraft #collapse http://ur1.ca/5c014Oct 08 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hands Off Our Land: Loss of green spaces breeds social strife, warns Mears  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 54.39 KBOct 08 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why #OccupyWallStreet Doesn’t Support Obama: His “Nothing to See Here” Stance on Bank LootingOct 08 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android 4.0 rumoured for Tuesday, 11 October... 1280×720 screens even for phones!Oct 08 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Too early. But I'll have to admit I smiled. #jobs #wikipedia http://ur1.ca/5c0bjOct 08 01:55
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schestowitzSlated got many comments, great stuff http://slated.org/good_riddance_steve_jobsOct 08 02:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Good Riddance Steve Jobs | Slated .::. Size~: 77.52 KBOct 08 02:00
schestowitzI put his story in some placesOct 08 02:00
schestowitz"congratulations! And Amy is such a great name! Now about those traditional cigars youre supposed to be passing out... ;)" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582406Oct 08 02:05
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sebsebsebschestowitz: hmm my dent not showing here it seemsOct 08 02:08
schestowitzpaste the urlOct 08 02:09
sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca/notice/84476607Oct 08 02:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 01:02:04 UTC - Identi.ca: Just bought the latest #HumbleBundle a little while ago for $15 :)! !games !gamingOct 08 02:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Libya revolutionaries burn, loot village homes - latimes.com - #usa #nato #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/Ih5E5Oct 08 02:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Windows to #Linux Considerations http://is.gd/jClnsvOct 08 02:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon » Finland: 79 Children Will Require Lifetime Medical Care After Receiving Swine Flu Vaccine #ah1n1 #bigpharma http://ur1.ca/5c0kvOct 08 02:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] October 2011 Issue of The #PCLinuxOS Magazine http://is.gd/jFhoww good distro, not a very large online communityOct 08 02:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Oh could have sent this to the !Identiverse group as well :): http://ur1.ca/5c0lhOct 08 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More pieces about Steve Jobs after 2-day grace period http://is.gd/aMDr7Y http://is.gd/Pjt3hd http://is.gd/zu3yPwOct 08 02:23
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schestowitzgn allOct 08 02:30
sebsebsebschestowitz: I look forward to a Tech Byes about Steve Jobs and suchOct 08 02:30
schestowitzhopefully this weekendOct 08 02:30
schestowitzhave a good weekendOct 08 02:30
schestowitzI'm tiedOct 08 02:30
schestowitztired tooOct 08 02:30
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah well for now, good nightOct 08 02:31
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/312204_300122170003907_100000183801159_1473417_1806415072_n.jpgOct 08 02:33
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DaemonFCschestowitz: http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/1309--boiron-oscillococcinum-class-action-lawsuitOct 08 03:16
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Firefox-and-SeaMonkey-users-warned-to-disable-McAfee-ScriptScan-1355098.htmlOct 08 04:00
DaemonFClolOct 08 04:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Octopi Wall Street http://identi.ca/url/54025200Oct 08 04:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mars Rover Curiosity Sealed Up For Launch http://identi.ca/url/54025216Oct 08 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] EU Parliament Group Opposes Long Copyrights and Oppressive DRM http://identi.ca/url/54025217Oct 08 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apparently Occupy Wall Street looks like a Church http://identi.ca/url/54025221Oct 08 04:42
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Take: Occupy Wall Street looks like church to me – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs .::. Size~: 138.46 KBOct 08 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupy San Francisco: eyewitness account http://identi.ca/url/54025225Oct 08 04:43
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Chipshttp://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/10/drone-computer-virus-.html?track=icymiOct 08 05:09
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Guest1649you just know its got to be using WindowsOct 08 05:10
Guest1649"A computer virus has infected the U.S.-based cockpits of the military?s Predator and Reaper drones, according to media reports."Oct 08 05:11
Diablo-D3yeah and no one actually believes thatOct 08 05:11
Guest1649"The robotic planes are controlled remotely from Creech Air Force Base in Nevada as they fly above Afghanistan, Libya and other war zones. "Oct 08 05:12
Guest1649"The virus, first reported by Wired magazine's defense blog, is allegedly logging pilots' every keystroke as they carry out their missions. The article, which relies on unnamed sources, says the virus was first detected two weeks ago and has remained on Creech's computer system despite multiple efforts to remove it."Oct 08 05:14
Guest1649What don't they believe diablo?  That the military is dumb enough to use Windows?Oct 08 05:14
Guest1649worse they cannot figure out how to remove it and continue to use the infected system.Oct 08 05:15
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Chips_B_Malroy"We generally do not discuss specific vulnerabilities, threats, or responses to our computer networks, since that helps people looking to exploit or attack our systems to refine their approach. We invest a lot in protecting and monitoring our systems to counter threats and ensure security, which includes a comprehensive response to viruses, worms, and other malware we discover."Oct 08 05:17
Chips_B_MalroyThat was the military's responce.Oct 08 05:18
Chips_B_MalroyIt does seem completely weird to trust mission critical equipment like drones to windows.Oct 08 05:19
Chips_B_MalroyHeck, its just a keylogger, what damage could that do beyond someone obtaining the passwords necessary to take control of the systems.Oct 08 05:20
Chips_B_MalroygnOct 08 05:21
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DaemonFCtheir comprehensive response is to play whack a mole with itOct 08 05:41
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Diablo-D3[12:11:35] <Guest1649> What don't they believe diablo?  That the military is dumb enough to use Windows?Oct 08 06:39
Diablo-D3because I dont know people who work for the military or the company, and they didn't remind me the drones and their control systems run vxworksOct 08 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Koro nade?Oct 08 06:40
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84479098Oct 08 08:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 05:23:17 UTC - Identi.ca: "Switch off your computer & get out more…[:] Jobs merely developed nice-looking gadgetry to do things [you]did already" http://is.gd/Pjt3hdOct 08 08:49
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84479131Oct 08 08:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 05:27:34 UTC - Identi.ca: "If Steve Jobs 'changed your world', then I have to ask – how big is your world, exactly? Perhaps it’s quite small." http://is.gd/zu3yPwOct 08 08:50
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: This Dianamania is a slur on Jobs • The Register .::. Size~: 27.33 KBOct 08 08:50
schestowitzRMS' remarks did upset some people..Oct 08 09:03
schestowitzhttp://larrythefreesoftwareguy.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/time-to-fork-the-fsf/Oct 08 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Time to fork the FSF « Larry the Free Software Guy .::. Size~: 155.93 KBOct 08 09:03
schestowitzhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2011/10/why-fsf-founder-richard-stallm.phpOct 08 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why FSF Founder Richard Stallman is Wrong on Steve Jobs .::. Size~: 43.69 KBOct 08 09:03
schestowitzI'm surprised about LarryOct 08 09:03
schestowitzBut not about JoeOct 08 09:03
schestowitzHe was always RMS-hotileOct 08 09:03
schestowitzand SJVN stirred some people upOct 08 09:04
schestowitzhttp://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/10/indian-supreme-court-replaces-red-hat.htmlOct 08 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indian Supreme Court Replaces Red Hat Enterprise Linux with Ubuntu in More than 17,000 Courts ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 126.09 KBOct 08 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WIPO boss: the Web would have been better if it was patented and its users had to pay license fees - http://bit.ly/r8b0Xt blinded by dogmaOct 08 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DTrace for #Linux http://ur1.ca/5bh16 great stuffOct 08 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sleep easy, war criminals http://goo.gl/BwBXpOct 08 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sleep easy, war criminals | Michael Mansfield | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 226.7 KBOct 08 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Want to Revive an Old Netbook? Try Lubuntu http://is.gd/A8yN7t #lxde is very fast on #Debian with old hardwareOct 08 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Was reading MG's article on Jobs "Here’s To The Crazy One" and just couldn't pass up this comment http... http://b1t.it/GwNOct 08 09:32
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Was reading MG's article on Jobs "Here’s To The Crazy One"… .::. Size~: 41.8 KBOct 08 09:32
schestowitzanother ranter that's a jobs fan http://mashable.com/2011/10/07/stillman-jobs/Oct 08 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Jobs Eulogy by "Last True Hacker" Goes Too Far .::. Size~: 230.88 KBOct 08 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Larry Ellison unveils #Oracle Public Cloud, claims no one will be locked in - http://bit.ly/q0PKRN also says water no longer wet...Oct 08 09:35
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schestowitzThis is who instigated and incited some folks http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-founder-richard-m-stallman-is-glad-jobs-is-gone/9707Oct 08 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free software founder, Richard M. Stallman is glad Jobs is gone | ZDNet .::. Size~: 120.58 KBOct 08 09:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84480672Oct 08 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 08:29:20 UTC - Identi.ca: From 'Warthog' to 'Pangolin': Up Close With Ubuntu Linux Mascots http://is.gd/ycgf8g a visual look hackOct 08 09:39
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84480706Oct 08 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 08:32:15 UTC - Identi.ca: So far I have not seen #FSF proponents who complain about RMS' eulogy for Jobs. Those who complain are expected to.Oct 08 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 11.10 to be Released on October 13 http://is.gd/rYCEnj nothing like past hype thoughOct 08 09:42
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schestowitzhttp://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2011/10/07/hp-we-have-nothing-to-do-with-android-touchpads/Oct 08 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bristol Council gets open source go-ahead after CESG discussions http://is.gd/WKibnj only after coming under fire.Oct 08 09:43
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84480813Oct 08 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 08:46:04 UTC - Identi.ca: The Best System Monitor for #Linux http://ur1.ca/5c3xs #KDE has a nice one built inOct 08 10:02
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84480826Oct 08 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 08:47:53 UTC - Identi.ca: #ChromeOS: the verdict http://ur1.ca/5c3y6 based on #LinuxOct 08 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Larry offers Hotel California ... - http://bit.ly/n8OQ02 why Ellison may find #interoperability is a two-edged swordOct 08 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Finished packing stuff for Dubai. Next stop #GITEX. But first a 6 hour flight (I hate that)Oct 08 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] you'd think a banking site would want to make sure you have time to double check payment info since they don't store itOct 08 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] apparently someone thought a tight session window would be a great idea, meaning you have to rush through, or face starting againOct 08 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if they at least offered to store the card info, requiring only a payee and authorisation it'd be fine, but noooooOct 08 10:12
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_Goblinwow...not much going on here...Oct 08 10:34
_Goblinnot even a dentOct 08 10:34
koolhead17_Goblin: hey thereOct 08 10:35
koolhead17Kryczek: holaOct 08 10:35
_Goblin:)Oct 08 10:35
_GoblinRoy was saying the other day that denti.ca was drying up....it seems he was correct...Oct 08 10:36
_Goblinnever thought it would happen that quick though...Oct 08 10:36
_Goblin;)Oct 08 10:36
koolhead17:POct 08 10:38
Diablo-D3_Goblin: I dunno, I still seem to be posting thereOct 08 10:38
koolhead17where is evryoneOct 08 10:38
koolhead17i find so silence hereOct 08 10:38
_Goblinthe cool cats go to Diaspora now.. ;)Oct 08 10:39
_Goblin(in respect of Identi.caOct 08 10:39
koolhead17;-)Oct 08 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Looking at a very interesting M68000 and M68020 emulator project (and this time is not Amiga!)Oct 08 10:40
_Goblintheres one......Oct 08 10:41
_Goblindamn intelligent poster on identi.ca that Openbytes.... I hear he's quite a handsome young man too ;)Oct 08 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Will the biography of Steve Jobs be available for Amazon Kindle? Or will it be an exclusive for iBooks?Oct 08 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My Ada Lovelace Day Heroines from Planet gnome by marina http://goo.gl/Nc63qOct 08 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » Linuxaria » How to convert from Debs to RPMs and viceversa http://goo.gl/XB4fYOct 08 10:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Linuxaria – Everything about GNU/Linux and Open source How to convert from .deb to .rpm and viceversa .::. Size~: 60.72 KBOct 08 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jwildeboer Will the biography of Steve Jobs be available for Amazon Kindle? Or will it be an exclusive for iBooks?Oct 08 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 2/2 "... a testament to how quickly power can corrupt." http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/opinion/jobs-looked-to-the-future.htmlOct 08 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Interesting !Reddit thread on why !opensource developers favour mailing lists for discussion http://goo.gl/uA0by « Do they?Oct 08 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Freedom of Speech Attacked in Mexico: Social Network Users & Bloggers Face Violence ⚫ EFF by eva http://goo.gl/lgAoJOct 08 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Freedom of Expression Under Attack in Mexico: Social Network Users and Bloggers Face Violence, Political Backlash | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 32.03 KBOct 08 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] There's a wealth of data out there – why not let us use it? - http://bit.ly/p1egZd good summary of why UK #opendata consultation mattersOct 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: There's a wealth of data out there – why not let us use it? | Ben Goldacre | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 190.17 KBOct 08 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] At last #Choqok fixed in #Kubuntu 11.04 (Using KDE backports ppa)Oct 08 11:59
MinceRgeekingsOct 08 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] oh! Speaking of such, I've put all Belgian zipcodes in a RESTful API yesterday :) http://ur1.ca/5c4ybOct 08 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jargon apple fanbois attacking @rms for giving an opinion,but fellatiously worship #DeadSteveJobs for locked-down shiny toys. how da ...Oct 08 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @glynmoody There's a wealth of data out there – why not let us use it? - http://bit.ly/p1egZd good summary of why UK #opendata consul ...Oct 08 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Slowly becoming one of those RT more than T folks...Oct 08 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] excellentOct 08 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scalable #Collaboration: Lessons From China: Li & Fung - http://ur1.ca/5c50l interesting application of #opensource methodology to businessOct 08 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Route 23.Oct 08 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Yawn!Oct 08 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Haile Selassie/LandhiesOct 08 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] South Park Archives - Cartman, Comedy Central, Trey Parker, Matt Stone http://goo.gl/MZL3iOct 08 13:24
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Diablo-D3[07:42:58] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [nj3ma/@nj3ma] Route 23.Oct 08 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] I hate it when people make changes to my code without notifying me. Now we have incompatible #GSMTAP versions :( http://bit.ly/rnwlh0Oct 08 13:34
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Diablo-D3I dont even play pokemon and I know that guy needs to get a lifeOct 08 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Not really. I used to use Usenet, then that died out and I joined a bunch of project MLs, and then those went spammy. IRC now.Oct 08 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou is not attending Building Digital Commons.Oct 08 13:41
_Goblinschestowitz: fyi.....ive configured and sorted my mic skype is ready to rock and roll...Oct 08 13:43
_Goblinschestowitz: in addition Ive also managed to get the call recorder installed and working.Oct 08 13:43
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iophk http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4e28877dccd1d5f132090000/chart-of-the-day-microsoft-online-division-july-2011.jpgOct 08 14:05
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schestowitzhi, _GoblinOct 08 15:33
schestowitzready here tooOct 08 15:33
schestowitzif it's not too late nowOct 08 15:34
schestowitzbeen out with a mate all dayOct 08 15:34
_GoblinNo problems...I'm just waiting to get a call from shell to pick her up from HospitalOct 08 15:34
_Goblinif I'm around it will probably be 1900+ if thats ok.Oct 08 15:35
schestowitz[12:34] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jargon apple fanbois attacking @rms for giving an opinion,but fellatiously worship #DeadSteveJobs for locked-down shiny toys. how da ...Oct 08 15:35
schestowitz:-)Oct 08 15:35
_Goblinschestowitz: as I say, call recorder in and working.....skype fine...Oct 08 15:35
schestowitz_Goblin: in pclos?Oct 08 15:35
_Goblinyep Oct 08 15:35
schestowitzwow. you kde kat!Oct 08 15:35
iophkWhen will you upgrade to SIP from Skype?Oct 08 15:36
_GoblinI said I would keep in along side sabayon if I got all my required packages workignOct 08 15:36
_GoblinI can keep an eye on KDE too since I believe like Sabayon PCLos is a rolling release.Oct 08 15:36
_Gobliniophk: If we can get a SIP client that offers no issues for either of us then I'd use it tomorrow....Oct 08 15:37
_Gobliniophk: however I'll still use skype for my relatives and friends who I can't expect to meet my demand to change.Oct 08 15:37
schestowitz"That is a great desktop " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/584771Oct 08 15:38
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schestowitz"Crunchbang is great, too" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/584690Oct 08 15:38
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schestowitz"+1 on Crunchbang "Oct 08 15:38
schestowitz_Goblin: amt started a mot popular diaspora threadOct 08 15:41
schestowitz*amyOct 08 15:41
schestowitz*mostOct 08 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Food crisis? Eat the rich! http://identi.ca/url/54031268 #umadOct 08 15:46
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schestowitz> I am writing from my son Andrew's home in Rockledge, Florida, We areOct 08 16:00
schestowitz> here to celebrate his 48th birthday which is today.Oct 08 16:00
schestowitz> Oct 08 16:00
schestowitz>  I went to a party store and bouught two numbers, 4 & 8, which wereOct 08 16:00
schestowitz> actually candles with wicks at the top and added them to the birthdayOct 08 16:00
schestowitz> cake we bought.Oct 08 16:00
schestowitz> Oct 08 16:00
schestowitz>  After the singing of Happy Birthday and the serving of the cake I saidOct 08 16:00
schestowitz> hey let's save the candles, we can use then again on my 84th.Oct 08 16:00
schestowitzLOLOct 08 16:00
DaemonFCthey should just be glad they didn't order the cake with Microsoft email softwareOct 08 16:02
schestowitzattachments?Oct 08 16:07
schestowitzor activex?Oct 08 16:07
DaemonFChttp://www.labnol.org/internet/microsoft-outlook-ruins-birthday-cake/6824/Oct 08 16:07
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schestowitzhttp://www.newsobserver.com/2011/10/08/1548529/red-hat-will-wait-on-progress.htmlOct 08 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We are the 99%," but the 1% Buy Elections, Reports Show http://is.gd/PpsZ2UOct 08 16:16
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schestowitzWhat an overinflated price: http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/07/swype-acquired-nuance-roughly-100-million/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29Oct 08 16:24
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schestowitzhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/07/exclusive-download-google-2-0-from-ics-offers-new-more-polished-interface/Oct 08 16:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #identica has gotten relatively quiet recently (even before 1.0.x). I wonder if G+ is to blame (even partly).Oct 08 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz "We are the 99%," but the 1% Buy Elections, Reports Show http://is.gd/PpsZ2UOct 08 16:59
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DaemonFChttp://www.banksterusa.org/content/obama-flip-flops-free-trade-cliffOct 08 17:01
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DaemonFC"even the official U.S. International Trade Commission studies show that the Korea deal, the most economically significant since NAFTA, will increase our trade deficit. It's projected to cost 160,000 jobs -- many in the jobs of the future categories like high-speed trains, solar, computers etc."Oct 08 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GNU PDF project leaves FSF High Priority Projects list; mission complete! — Free Software Foundation - #floss http://ur1.ca/5c7gtOct 08 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf http://ur1.ca/5bxui -- @kaz !gnu !fsf !lp !cc #ADL11Oct 08 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] High Priority Free Software Projects — Free Software Foundation — #floss http://goo.gl/VgfFBOct 08 17:09
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schestowitz"Seems to work well in chromium browser mostly because G+ pulled me in. I should try Konqueror for both." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/574046Oct 08 17:10
schestowitz"polls did it for me. Hugely annoyed by them. Of course I could just remove certain groups like !linux. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/586083Oct 08 17:10
schestowitzI was never a fan of polls eitherOct 08 17:10
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schestowitz"That did not go well but it might be that I'm logged in twice." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/574046Oct 08 17:11
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84485630Oct 08 17:12
TechrightsBot-tr@ClaudioM (claudiom)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 15:39:40 UTC - Identi.ca: I think so, but it looks as though activity is picking up once again on here.Oct 08 17:12
schestowitzabout identica activity...Oct 08 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Richard Stallman about Steve Jobs death... http://ur1.ca/5bqi3Oct 08 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] playing on tsundere.fi?Oct 08 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] 1: hard to apologize to a dead person. 2: what mistake? respected the man, reminded that he was not perfectOct 08 17:21
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84486110 Oct 08 17:34
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 08-Oct-11 16:21:29 UTC - Identi.ca: They Fell For My Hoax Video http://ur1.ca/5c7l6 brilliant!Oct 08 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :) lucky (smart) girl.Oct 08 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] In Boston with a few hours to burn and catch up on work before I fly to England for release week.Oct 08 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ah, thanks.Oct 08 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Always a good idea. They say they don't spray the trees when apples are on them, but fresh apples often have white residue in stores.Oct 08 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve #Jobs - http://goo.gl/SvAB9Oct 08 18:11
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schestowitzhttp://thefreecountry.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/free-books/Oct 08 18:20
schestowitznice causeOct 08 18:20
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schestowitzhey, koolhead17Oct 08 18:20
koolhead17schestowitz howdy?Oct 08 18:20
schestowitzHave you become a Linux cowboy?Oct 08 18:21
koolhead17schestowitz as in? :DOct 08 18:21
schestowitzkoolhead17: have you explored diaspora yet? I'm still experimenting a bit around there.Oct 08 18:21
koolhead17i have a account thereOct 08 18:22
schestowitzkoolhead17: was as ref to howdy as greetingOct 08 18:22
koolhead17schestowitz :DOct 08 18:22
schestowitz!google youtube space cowboyOct 08 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Space Cowboy - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DppRgCkUeuTwOct 08 18:22
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koolhead17schestowitz i don`t understand why people are after RMSOct 08 18:22
schestowitzsome riffs there are niceOct 08 18:22
schestowitzkoolhead17: yesOct 08 18:23
schestowitzbut it's expectedOct 08 18:23
schestowitzand worry notOct 08 18:23
schestowitzthose ho are against him were against him to begin withOct 08 18:23
koolhead17when it was his personal opinionOct 08 18:23
schestowitzI saw just one FSF member complainingOct 08 18:23
koolhead17yes. i am shockedOct 08 18:23
schestowitzI mostly agreed with what he wroteOct 08 18:23
schestowitzbut I would not put it like thisOct 08 18:23
schestowitz"glad he is gone" Oct 08 18:23
schestowitzthat can be misquotedOct 08 18:23
schestowitzas it isOct 08 18:23
schestowitzhe said he's not glad he's deadOct 08 18:23
schestowitzbut glad he does not do what he didOct 08 18:24
schestowitzsome people quote that as if he was glad jobs had diedOct 08 18:24
schestowitzI was not gladOct 08 18:24
schestowitzhonestly,i was'tOct 08 18:24
schestowitzhe was my dad's ageOct 08 18:24
schestowitzbut I thought, Apple might be less damaging to us without him in  the pictureOct 08 18:24
schestowitzwhich is not the same thingOct 08 18:24
koolhead17i mean dude RMS has his own opinion, you dont have to grill him :POct 08 18:24
schestowitzdon't worry for RMSOct 08 18:24
DaemonFCso Steve Jobs was really a tyrant, uncharitable, and he loved to censor things that could hardly be described as violent or pornographicOct 08 18:24
schestowitzhe made more outrageous statementsOct 08 18:24
DaemonFCit's good that someone is skipping the pretentiousness Oct 08 18:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: he also wasn't a good boss and family man, I read..Oct 08 18:25
koolhead17schestowitz i respect him more than anyone, RMS i mean :POct 08 18:25
schestowitzRMS is not richOct 08 18:25
koolhead17Kryczek: enjoying weekend :POct 08 18:25
schestowitzif he died, people would mock him a lotOct 08 18:25
schestowitzRMS is not in good healthOct 08 18:25
schestowitzI heard from people close to himOct 08 18:26
koolhead17indeedOct 08 18:26
DaemonFCit's his own faultOct 08 18:26
schestowitzmaybOct 08 18:26
schestowitzin partOct 08 18:26
DaemonFCa smoker can't complain when they get cancer, just as a fat man can't complain he has a bad heartOct 08 18:26
koolhead17he is not reach because money was never he wanted in his lyfOct 08 18:26
schestowitzI think there is a biological inherited element too, but I am guessing and it's unfairOct 08 18:26
DaemonFCit's one of those things that just has the punishment built inOct 08 18:26
schestowitzkoolhead17: he's a scientistOct 08 18:26
schestowitzunlike jobsOct 08 18:26
schestowitzor gatesOct 08 18:26
schestowitzgates never got a degreeOct 08 18:26
schestowitzjobs enever got a degree afaikOct 08 18:26
schestowitzhonorary is scamOct 08 18:27
DaemonFChonorary degreesOct 08 18:27
schestowitzmock degreesOct 08 18:27
DaemonFC:)Oct 08 18:27
DaemonFCDoctorates!Oct 08 18:27
schestowitzfor unis toadvertise themselvesOct 08 18:27
schestowitzthe uni of manchestergave the BEEGEES degreesOct 08 18:27
schestowitzbut all they did for it is singOct 08 18:27
DaemonFCan honorary degree is effectively meaninglessOct 08 18:27
schestowitzI have some photos of the beegees awarded thoseOct 08 18:27
DaemonFCexcept, like you said, to advertise the universityOct 08 18:28
schestowitzmy uncle from florida sent me paper snippetsOct 08 18:28
schestowitzDaemonFC: yyupOct 08 18:28
schestowitzwhich is why you see many clamouring to give these to famous people Oct 08 18:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: there's honorary US citizenshipOct 08 18:28
schestowitz!google kroes university gates honorary techrightsOct 08 18:28
DaemonFCbut it doesn't make you a US citizenOct 08 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Cablegate: Director of Microsoft Netherlands Thought an Honorary ... | http://techrights.org/2011/09/10/michel-van-der-bel-on-neelie-kroes/Oct 08 18:28
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DaemonFCit's like thatOct 08 18:28
DaemonFCit's a "recognition"Oct 08 18:29
schestowitzDaemonFC: bobby fischer got an iceland citizenshipOct 08 18:29
koolhead17schestowitz he would have paid good money to them :POct 08 18:29
koolhead17hey jonoOct 08 18:29
jonohey koolhead17Oct 08 18:29
schestowitzhe commiteed crimes that are. IMHO, not crimes at allOct 08 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Sorry for the retweet - I sent that one in the middle of the night, I suspect many may have missed it, and I think it is important.Oct 08 18:29
schestowitziceland could see thatOct 08 18:29
koolhead17jono: what would you say regarding RMS personal opinion?Oct 08 18:29
DaemonFCRoman Polanski is still being hunted down after almost 40 yearsOct 08 18:29
jonokoolhead17, I need to read up what he saidOct 08 18:29
DaemonFCeven though the woman who was the alleged victim doesn't even want to pursue the chargesOct 08 18:29
jonoI havent looked into itOct 08 18:29
koolhead17schestowitz link please :POct 08 18:30
*jono readsOct 08 18:30
DaemonFCthe state gets a whiff of this and jumps on it like a bitch in heatOct 08 18:30
schestowitzfischer?Oct 08 18:30
DaemonFCespecially when they can ruin a political enemyOct 08 18:30
DaemonFCit's the same thing that's going on with Julian Assange and the "rape" caseOct 08 18:31
jonoI see itOct 08 18:31
schestowitzjono: http://thefreecountry.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/free-books/Oct 08 18:31
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koolhead17jono: http://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_%28Steve_Jobs%29Oct 08 18:31
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jonoI am not surprised he said thatOct 08 18:31
schestowitzjono: opinions?Oct 08 18:31
schestowitzbe jonestOct 08 18:31
jonoI am not surprised he is glad Jobs is not in the worldOct 08 18:31
schestowitzif it's distatsteful, fair enoughOct 08 18:31
jonoI think it is a bit insensitive at this time, but I don't think it is that badOct 08 18:31
schestowitzjono: noOct 08 18:32
schestowitzhe didn't say *that*Oct 08 18:32
schestowitzhe said he is gald jobs is not in appleOct 08 18:32
schestowitzhe said he is not happy he had diedOct 08 18:32
jono"I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Oct 08 18:32
jonohe said he is happy he is goneOct 08 18:32
schestowitzsee the preceding sentencesOct 08 18:32
jonoit says it right thereOct 08 18:32
schestowitzit's about his role in appleOct 08 18:32
schestowitzthat's how I read itOct 08 18:32
jonoI disagreeOct 08 18:32
schestowitzI too am happy he;'s not at appleOct 08 18:32
DaemonFCjono: There's nothing wrong with saying you're glad the wrongs they perpetrated are no longer being doneOct 08 18:32
schestowitzAlthough I think Cook is no betterOct 08 18:33
jonoI read it that he is not happy for his death but he is happy he is not in the world any moreOct 08 18:33
jonohe could say the same thing if Jobs moved to MarsOct 08 18:33
jonoDaemonFC, agreedOct 08 18:33
schestowitzjono: fair eniugh mateOct 08 18:33
schestowitzI just wanted your interpretation of itOct 08 18:33
jonoand that's why while I think RMS is being insensitive to say it at this time, he articulated himself wellOct 08 18:33
schestowitzwe all have different ways of reading things, not just moralityOct 08 18:33
jonoI didnt read it as RMS is glad Jobs is deadOct 08 18:33
jonoschestowitz yupOct 08 18:34
schestowitzok, goodOct 08 18:34
schestowitzsome people use headliens that wrongly imply this Oct 08 18:34
schestowitzalgthough he clearly stated this is not the caseOct 08 18:34
schestowitzI think those headlins are unfairOct 08 18:34
schestowitzand serve as incitation he does not deserveOct 08 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] that wouldn't leave me many characters in a 140 character dent :) @whistlewright (I just never unsubbed from the old ones)Oct 08 18:34
schestowitzbasically, i view this as people exploiting jobs' death to promoyte an agendaOct 08 18:35
schestowitzinc. an anti-fsf agendaOct 08 18:35
schestowitzfsf hasn always been against appleOct 08 18:35
cubezzzhow are they doing that?Oct 08 18:35
schestowitzand the press is trying to monestise this deathOct 08 18:35
jonoschestowitz I doubt itOct 08 18:35
schestowitzas it also tried when michael jackson diedOct 08 18:35
schestowitz!google microsoft amy whitehouse make moneyOct 08 18:35
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft's “Vile” Tweeting About The Death Of Amy Winehouse | http://wearesocialpeople.com/microsofts-vile-tweeting-about-the-death-of-amy-whinehouse/Oct 08 18:35
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Leaked Video of Amy Winehouse Death | Amy Winehouse on Crack ... | http://techie-buzz.com/social-networking/amy-winehouse-death-crack-video-scam.htmlOct 08 18:35
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft issues apology over Amy Winehouse tweet - Neowin.net | http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-issues-apology-over-amy-winehouse-tweetOct 08 18:35
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schestowitzjono: it's maybe unintemntional, but it\'s hap[peningOct 08 18:36
schestowitzthey try to gain the big storyOct 08 18:36
schestowitzso they prepare obituaries in advanceOct 08 18:36
schestowitz!google bloomberg jobs obituaryOct 08 18:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Steve Jobs's Obituary, As Run By Bloomberg | http://gawker.com/5042795/bloomberg-runs-steve-jobs-obituaryOct 08 18:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bloomberg mistakenly publishes Steve Jobs obituary | Apple - CNET ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10027886-37.htmlOct 08 18:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Steve Jobs obituary published by Bloomberg - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2638481/Steve-Jobs-obituary-published-by-Bloomberg.htmlOct 08 18:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Bloomberg News Accidentally Publishes Draft of Steve Jobs's Obituary | http://gizmodo.com/5042929/bloomberg-news-accidentally-publishes-draft-of-steve-jobss-obituaryOct 08 18:36
jonoschestowitz lots of things happen, there is a big difference when malice is involvedOct 08 18:36
schestowitzthis time they can rerun itOct 08 18:36
jonojust because it happens doesnt mean malice is involvedOct 08 18:36
schestowitzand for a change, this time they won't be told off for itrOct 08 18:36
schestowitzjono: yes, I knowOct 08 18:37
schestowitzbut it can be a side effectOct 08 18:37
schestowitzjust sayin'Oct 08 18:37
jonoschestowitz it all depends on which lens you read the news throughOct 08 18:37
*schestowitz nodsOct 08 18:37
jonoyou can read it as "they have an agenda" or "this is just an opinion"Oct 08 18:37
jonoI don't believe, to be honest, that there is much of an anti FSF agendaOct 08 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean link?Oct 08 18:37
jonoI think most people don't care about the FSF...they just know the FSF is there doing it's thingOct 08 18:37
schestowitzwhen you write an article about a dying person before he is dead, to me this means they look for business firstOct 08 18:38
schestowitztrying to come out with the story ahead of the restOct 08 18:38
jonoschestowitz right, but RMS is not dyingOct 08 18:38
schestowitzwhich is what papers are judged byOct 08 18:38
schestowitzlike researchOct 08 18:38
schestowitzspying on one's research to beat others to itOct 08 18:38
schestowitzjono: maybe he isOct 08 18:38
schestowitznot by most definitionOct 08 18:38
cubezzzjono, some people are anti-FOSSOct 08 18:38
cubezzzterms like "freetard"Oct 08 18:39
cubezzzcommunistOct 08 18:39
jonocubezzz sure, but sometimes the FOSS community doesn't help itselfOct 08 18:39
schestowitzbut it has become more widelym known (I think) that he is not in great heal;th and some people occasionally spoke about him stepping down, at least hypotheticallyOct 08 18:39
jonoI think there are a lot of balanced people who are frustrated with anti-social FOSSOct 08 18:39
jonofolksOct 08 18:39
schestowitzjono: the FOSS community is FS and OSSOct 08 18:39
jonoin the same way there are anti-social propreitary folksOct 08 18:39
schestowitzNot the same thingOct 08 18:39
jonoschestowitz I know :-)Oct 08 18:39
schestowitzsome in the OSS community are pro-AppleOct 08 18:39
schestowitzthey use OS XOct 08 18:39
cubezzzwell programmers aren't that social as a group generallyOct 08 18:40
schestowitzsome are using free linux, some use linspire, whatever...Oct 08 18:40
schestowitzSome only use Linux on their servers at worOct 08 18:40
jonocubezzz agreeOct 08 18:40
schestowitzprogrammers in a group is like composers in a groupOct 08 18:40
jonocubezzz my only point is that I think there is a difference between frustration and maliceOct 08 18:40
schestowitzconflicting editsOct 08 18:40
jonohell, I have bee frustrated over the years with some FLOSS folks, but I have never had malice towards themOct 08 18:40
cubezzzjono, I think you're right that most computer users don't even know about FSFOct 08 18:41
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jonoI think it is just human nature, on both sidesOct 08 18:41
schestowitzand bands tend to disband after a while, as each member has his/her own idea for ways forward, image, etc.Oct 08 18:41
koolhead17schestowitz indeedOct 08 18:41
cubezzzit's not something you see on TVOct 08 18:41
schestowitzConstruction is differentOct 08 18:41
jonocubezzz yeahOct 08 18:41
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schestowitzI think it's easier to collaborate thereOct 08 18:41
jonoI like the FSFOct 08 18:41
jonoparticularly these daysOct 08 18:41
schestowitzit's well know what to do and how, it's not a xdesign jobOct 08 18:41
jonoI think they are more balanced and pro than they wereOct 08 18:41
cubezzzSome of the FSF folks are niceOct 08 18:41
jonoI just never like the negative campaignsOct 08 18:41
cubezzzat least the ones I've talked toOct 08 18:41
jonoI prefer them to promote FSF on a platform of opportunityOct 08 18:41
koolhead17cubezzz who is not nice in FSF :DOct 08 18:42
schestowitzwhere work become aa creative act of self-expressionl, then groupwork requires sacrifice of individualityOct 08 18:42
jonoas opposed to deriding the competitionOct 08 18:42
cubezzzkoolhead17, I don't even knowOct 08 18:42
koolhead17:POct 08 18:42
koolhead17everyone is niceOct 08 18:42
schestowitzmaybe faux fsfersOct 08 18:42
schestowitzbut they are not engaged with muchOct 08 18:42
cubezzzStallman can be a bit cantankerousOct 08 18:42
cubezzzbut I haven't talked to himOct 08 18:43
schestowitzfsfers are generally very enlightened and typically well educated too, so they are inclined to be politeOct 08 18:43
DaemonFChmmm, Opera's dialogs are all in YAML nowOct 08 18:43
jonowell stallman is a visionary, and like most visionaries he has a weird and quirky personalityOct 08 18:43
jonothat is no different to the leaders of all the tech companiesOct 08 18:43
schestowitzcubezzz: if you try to heckle him..Oct 08 18:43
DaemonFCjono: Nasal sex with plants is quirky?Oct 08 18:43
DaemonFCNO!Oct 08 18:43
jonoDaemonFC, not for me ;-)Oct 08 18:43
schestowitzI saw people asking him questions designed just to irritate himOct 08 18:43
jonololOct 08 18:43
cubezzzI wouldn't dream of heckling RMSOct 08 18:43
schestowitzand then he loses the temper a bitOct 08 18:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: it was a jokeOct 08 18:44
cubezzzschestowitz, yeahOct 08 18:44
schestowitz"love to a plant"Oct 08 18:44
DaemonFCrightOct 08 18:44
schestowitzthe anti-RMS crowd pretends it was not a jokeOct 08 18:44
schestowitzbruce perens wrote about it onceOct 08 18:44
DaemonFCI got it, his dinner partners chose to be offendedOct 08 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: My musings on Clementine (0.7) http://ur1.ca/5c81wOct 08 18:44
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koolhead17i respect RMS more than anyone in open/fs communityOct 08 18:44
schestowitzafter 'fake' steve jobs (to hell with this parasitical Daniel) used that plant joke to smear rmsOct 08 18:44
cubezzzI just tried Fedora 14 & 15 yesterdayOct 08 18:45
jonoalright folks, sorry I need to runOct 08 18:45
jononeed to change venuesOct 08 18:45
jonohead to a StarbucksOct 08 18:45
jono:-)Oct 08 18:45
cubezzzI give 14 a thumbs up, 15 a thumbs downOct 08 18:45
jononice chatting!Oct 08 18:45
cubezzzlaterOct 08 18:45
jono:-)Oct 08 18:45
DaemonFCFedora 16 should be much betterOct 08 18:45
cubezzzno like gnome 3Oct 08 18:45
DaemonFCgrub2 and more things using systemdOct 08 18:45
schestowitzjono: ta for the chatOct 08 18:45
jonoschestowitz ditto :-)Oct 08 18:46
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schestowitzcubezzz: I thought y0u meant -1Oct 08 18:46
schestowitzupping 14 timesOct 08 18:46
schestowitzthan down-thumbing 15 timesOct 08 18:47
schestowitzI tired 14 on several machines and used it for a few months at workOct 08 18:47
schestowitzthe KDE versionOct 08 18:47
koolhead17schestowitz forgot to tell you, that gates fud and tamil nadu government  story has got published :)Oct 08 18:51
koolhead17'i will share the url soon as the update there pageOct 08 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] How do such idiots become heads of organizations ? http://ur1.ca/5c835... http://b1t.it/GBzOct 08 18:52
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schestowitzkoolhead17: FANTASTIC news!Oct 08 18:53
koolhead17schestowitz  indeed :D Oct 08 18:54
DaemonFCOK, Opera's Vega is using OpenGL on my systemOct 08 18:55
DaemonFCand it works flawlesslyOct 08 18:55
DaemonFCwhy can't open source browsers do this?Oct 08 18:55
DaemonFCFirefox just leaks memory endlessly and Chromium crashesOct 08 18:56
DaemonFChttp://my.opera.com/core/blog/show.dml/26453141Oct 08 18:56
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DaemonFC:)Oct 08 18:56
DaemonFC"All the browsers have sorted out the mis-nesting, but inconsistently: note that IE and Safari have an additional empty <i> element that Opera, Firefox and Chrome don't have. Which is correct? In an HTML4 world, both are. The HTML4 spec describes what to do with good markup, but not what to do with bad markup - and we know that 95% of the Web doesn't validate. Therefore, browsers have traditionally been left to their own devices and forced toOct 08 18:57
DaemonFCguess what to do with bad markup, as error-handling was never defined for HTML4."Oct 08 18:57
DaemonFCthe part under memory consumption leads me to wonder if a site could use lots of invalid HTML 5 to cause the browser process to swell and consume all the memory on a machineOct 08 18:59
schestowitzActuin in Planet SUSE: http://www.vioan.ro/wp/2011/10/05/my-gym-and-fitness-routine/Oct 08 19:01
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koolhead17schestowitz lawwalOct 08 19:02
schestowitzCould be worseOct 08 19:03
schestowitzcould be Miguel's Microsoft ads in Planet GNOMEOct 08 19:04
DaemonFCI got fed up with Opera and left for a while because they were releasing Windows and Mac builds way ahead of the Linux onesOct 08 19:05
DaemonFCbut they seem to be in sync againOct 08 19:05
schestowitzhttp://joeshaw.org//2011/09/30/terrible-vagrant-virtualbox-performance-on-mac-os-x/Oct 08 19:05
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koolhead17schestowitz haha. i agree to you :POct 08 19:05
koolhead17schestowitz i thought of trying vagrantOct 08 19:06
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MinceRhark, a vagrantOct 08 19:27
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DaemonFCverily I say unto theeOct 08 19:29
DaemonFCTASE HIM!!!!!Oct 08 19:29
DaemonFCMY PARK BENCH!!!Oct 08 19:29
DaemonFCI PAY TAXES!!!Oct 08 19:29
DaemonFCAWAY SHOOO!!!!!Oct 08 19:29
MinceRlolOct 08 19:29
DaemonFCB-)Oct 08 19:29
schestowitz"I thought the old layout was just fine. I'm excited about the underpinnings of StatusNet 1.0, but identi.ca itself needs work still. Also, being able to post to identi.ca from here would really seal the deal." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/586083Oct 08 19:34
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 08 19:34
schestowitz"http://joindiaspora.com/posts/586083"Oct 08 19:34
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 08 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Daily Show: Sarah Palin pulled "Nigerian prince" scam on donors http://identi.ca/url/54033008Oct 08 19:36
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DaemonFChttp://i.imgur.com/JvrtF.jpgOct 08 19:37
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iophkhttp://www.skepticblog.org/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-succumbs-to-alternative-medicine/Oct 08 19:39
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MinceRcould also be that his frame couldn't hold up against his concentrated evil any longerOct 08 19:39
iophkComplex, he was able promote a lot of good ideas, too.Oct 08 19:40
MinceRthere were good ideas that he promoted? like what?Oct 08 19:40
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iophkApple II was completely open. Oct 08 19:41
iophkOriginally, OS X was quite openOct 08 19:41
iophkA lot of UI work can be attributed to his projects.Oct 08 19:42
MinceRevidently, he didn't promote openness effectivelyOct 08 19:42
MinceRseeing how all that became quite closedOct 08 19:42
MinceRas for the UI work, a lot of that is pretty bad workOct 08 19:43
MinceRlike the global menu and the broken maximizeOct 08 19:43
iophkYes, it all went south in recent yearsOct 08 19:43
iophkIt was noticeable with their footdragging on ODFOct 08 19:43
DaemonFCyou can build a usable operating system out of the open source components of OS XOct 08 19:45
DaemonFCit just won't be OS X compatible Oct 08 19:45
DaemonFCI used Darwin for a whileOct 08 19:45
iophkDarwinOct 08 19:45
MinceRand it will be inferior to the alternatives you can get with a lot less workOct 08 19:45
MinceRlike GNU/LinuxOct 08 19:45
DaemonFCalthough it is more functional than derr herrOct 08 19:45
DaemonFC:)Oct 08 19:45
MinceRand GNU/HURDOct 08 19:46
DaemonFCthat's what I saidOct 08 19:46
DaemonFCderr herrOct 08 19:47
DaemonFC:DOct 08 19:47
MinceRyou need to speak more clearlyOct 08 19:47
schestowitzGNU HURD?Oct 08 19:47
schestowitzor GNU/Hurd?Oct 08 19:47
MinceRHURD is an acronymOct 08 19:47
schestowitzso is gnuOct 08 19:47
MinceRit stands for HERD of Unix-Replacing DaemonsOct 08 19:47
schestowitzbut why the slash?Oct 08 19:47
MinceRdunnoOct 08 19:48
MinceRanalogy with GNU/Linux? :)Oct 08 19:48
schestowitzit's a gnu project\Oct 08 19:48
MinceRi'm not sure what the official spelling isOct 08 19:48
schestowitzlike GNU GRUBOct 08 19:48
schestowitzGNU RUB :-)Oct 08 19:48
DaemonFCthe only reason for this problem is that HURD doesn't workOct 08 19:48
DaemonFC:)Oct 08 19:48
schestowitzit was supposdd to be just GNUOct 08 19:48
schestowitzBut Linux stole the limelightOct 08 19:48
schestowitzfor one programOct 08 19:49
schestowitzlike a gnu program called hurdOct 08 19:49
schestowitzit's just gnuOct 08 19:49
schestowitznot quite how RMS had it plannedOct 08 19:49
schestowitzIBM and Intel and all those companies sponsor Linux more than GNU AFAIKOct 08 19:49
schestowitzThey also give devs to itOct 08 19:49
schestowitzIntel gives some gcc devs away for h/w optimisations based on icc and stuff..Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzBut people really need to go further back and see what Linus really didOct 08 19:50
koolhead17schestowitz i agree to uOct 08 19:50
schestowitzI wasm't into computing, not quite in the technical.. I was 9... but I can se why RMS is upsetOct 08 19:50
DaemonFCit's doubtful HURD will ever work as well as LinuxOct 08 19:51
schestowitzImagine spending 8 years sacrificing your lifeOct 08 19:51
schestowitzand making decent progressOct 08 19:51
DaemonFCfor whatever reason you want to pin on itOct 08 19:51
schestowitzthen someone makes a program like the one you develop but monolithicOct 08 19:51
MinceRtherefore it was not like the one he was developingOct 08 19:51
MinceR:>Oct 08 19:51
schestowitzand then your whooe work becomes just some unnamed and to-be-shamed of appendageOct 08 19:51
DaemonFCyeah, it worksOct 08 19:51
DaemonFCtheirs doesn'tOct 08 19:51
DaemonFCcase closedOct 08 19:51
MinceRthe point and the difficulty is that HURD is a real microkernel architectureOct 08 19:51
DaemonFCeven with that pointless linux-libre script, it works better than HURDOct 08 19:51
MinceRoops, it's HIRD, not HERDOct 08 19:52
schestowitzyou herd?Oct 08 19:53
MinceRi herd you like mudkipsOct 08 19:53
schestowitzYo Richard, I herd you make a GNU so we can GNU is not UNIX is not UNIX is not UNIX is not UNIX is not UNIX@!#STACK OVERFLOW. error 0x0342a33Oct 08 19:55
DaemonFCdon't you mean EIEIO?Oct 08 20:00
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/gnomeuser/statuses/122625687474552832Oct 08 20:01
TechrightsBot-tr@gnomeuser: techrights.org/2011/10/07/steve-jobs/ - stay classy Roy.Oct 08 20:01
schestowitz@gnomeuser is mono boosterOct 08 20:01
koolhead17schestowitz http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/10/07/our-view-on-the-changing-linux-landscape-is-out/Oct 08 20:01
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koolhead17whoa re these guys?Oct 08 20:01
schestowitzDavid NielsenOct 08 20:01
schestowitzbansheeOct 08 20:01
schestowitzkoolhead17: why?Oct 08 20:02
koolhead17i am curious to know that is why. :)Oct 08 20:02
koolhead17its paid content i supposeOct 08 20:02
MinceRDaemonFC: EIEIO is an error code.  http://www.gnu.org/s/hello/manual/libc/Error-Codes.htmlOct 08 20:02
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schestowitzJay, Raven, and MattOct 08 20:03
schestowitzJay is pro-LinuxOct 08 20:03
schestowitzThe rest I'm not sure aboutOct 08 20:03
DaemonFChttps://github.com/duckduckgo/logos/blob/master/flyers/flyer.docxOct 08 20:03
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schestowitzJay recently called MSFT the biggest distributor of LinuxOct 08 20:03
schestowitzas DaemonFC pointed outOct 08 20:03
schestowitzand they continuously refused to tell me if Microsoft is among their customersOct 08 20:03
koolhead17schestowitz biggest distributor lolOct 08 20:03
iophkBiggest distributor because of Android, or what?Oct 08 20:03
koolhead17iophk: +!Oct 08 20:04
schestowitzno, SUSEOct 08 20:04
koolhead171Oct 08 20:04
schestowitzIIRCOct 08 20:04
MinceRthey like to refer to Hype-VOct 08 20:04
schestowitzit's absurb, I knowOct 08 20:04
MinceRas if it benefited anyone other than themOct 08 20:04
koolhead17schestowitz u mean suse is owned my microsoftOct 08 20:04
koolhead17:POct 08 20:04
schestowitz451 Group is a mixed thingOct 08 20:04
schestowitzI wrote about them after they were visiting McirosoftOct 08 20:04
schestowitzThey were not so happy about scrutinyOct 08 20:04
schestowitzand they made their webcats inaccessible for LinuxOct 08 20:04
schestowitzWhen I aksed them about it they sent me the slides after the webcastOct 08 20:05
DaemonFCMicrosoft sells SUSE licenses to Windows customers to run alongside Windows or under Hyper-VOct 08 20:05
schestowitzbut this was not what I inquired aboutOct 08 20:05
DaemonFCtechnically they do sell copies of LinuxOct 08 20:05
schestowitzfor a feeOct 08 20:05
schestowitzto keep rhat outOct 08 20:05
MinceRthey also tax Linux, at companies that let them get away with itOct 08 20:05
DaemonFChttps://duck.co/topic/flyer-campaignOct 08 20:06
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I was the one that complained and got them to offer a PDFOct 08 20:06
iophkThat's probably also why CentOS is supported in their attempt at a VM.Oct 08 20:06
iophkhttp://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/05/16/microsoft_centos/Oct 08 20:06
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iophkTo undercut Red Hat.Oct 08 20:06
MinceRDaemonFC: niceOct 08 20:06
koolhead17iophk: yeahOct 08 20:06
DaemonFCHyper-V is much more powerful than the toy they call Virtual PCOct 08 20:07
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iophkVirtual PC never workedOct 08 20:07
DaemonFCthat's mainly relegated to running Windows XP under Windows 7 for old tax softwareOct 08 20:07
MinceRthe toy they call hyper-v is more powerful than the toy they call virtual pc?Oct 08 20:08
DaemonFCI used Virtual PC back when it was Connectix Oct 08 20:08
schestowitz[20:07] <iophk> Virtual PC never workedOct 08 20:08
schestowitzwas it supposed to?Oct 08 20:08
DaemonFCfor the time it was OKOct 08 20:08
DaemonFCMicrosoft let it stagnate Oct 08 20:08
schestowitzYou run Windows stay with it. Try Linux, blame Linux.Oct 08 20:08
iophkIMHO , no it was not supposed to work,Oct 08 20:08
DaemonFCit misses a lot of features that even VirtualBox hasOct 08 20:08
iophkit was supposed to burn timeOct 08 20:08
iophkburn time budgeted for non-MS systemsOct 08 20:08
schestowitz!google adrian zdnet virtual pc ubuntuOct 08 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ubuntu on Virtual PC 2007 - No way dude! | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/ubuntu-on-virtual-pc-2007-no-way-dude/273Oct 08 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - How to ... install Ubuntu 8.04 on a USB flash drive | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/how-to-install-ubuntu-804-on-a-usb-flash-drive/1873Oct 08 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - First Look: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) Beta 1 | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/first-look-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-beta-1/12155Oct 08 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 can read your iPhone's secrets | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-1004-can-read-your-iphones-secrets/8424Oct 08 20:08
schestowitzsee [1]Oct 08 20:09
iophktime's up, sorry bout that.  Oct 08 20:09
DaemonFCthere were instructions on how to get Linux to boot on Virtual PC at one point, you had to call it Windows in the VMOct 08 20:09
schestowitzvirtual _PC_Oct 08 20:09
schestowitzWindowsOct 08 20:09
iophkDidn't run FreeBSD eitherOct 08 20:09
schestowitzWindows=PCOct 08 20:09
DaemonFCI posted a comment asking why anyone would fuck around with that when VirtualBox was betterOct 08 20:09
koolhead17schestowitz point me to your write up which says duckduck is MSFT front Oct 08 20:09
koolhead17faceOct 08 20:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: it doesn't have the MS logoOct 08 20:09
iophkMaybe "virtual" was meant more literally, It virtually works, it's virtually a pc.Oct 08 20:09
schestowitzkoolhead17: search foir irOct 08 20:10
schestowitz!google duckduckgo microsoftOct 08 20:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - DuckDuckGo Pitches Private Searches | Search Engine Journal | http://www.searchenginejournal.com/duckduckgo/26893/Oct 08 20:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - DuckDuckGo: Another Front End to Microsoft for Some Queries ... | http://techrights.org/2011/07/19/to-microsoft-in-search/Oct 08 20:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - DuckDuckGo Search - Windows Live Gallery | http://vista.gallery.microsoft.com/liveItemDetail.aspx%3Fli%3D9c5334d9-5f2e-4039-8972-76498a77301a%26bt%3D1%26pl%3D1Oct 08 20:10
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft employees Topics at DuckDuckGo | http://duckduckgo.com/1/c/Microsoft_employeesOct 08 20:10
schestowitzsee [2]Oct 08 20:10
iophkVirtual PC keeps people from installing linux or bsd natively, and because it never works, burns up all the time in the budget.Oct 08 20:11
DaemonFCI use duckduckgoOct 08 20:12
DaemonFCtheir results are better than Google'sOct 08 20:12
MinceRi use both duckduckgo and startpageOct 08 20:14
MinceRsometimes one is better, sometimes the other isOct 08 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] has someone trademarked the term "there's a patent for that" yet?Oct 08 20:16
schestowitzI think I said that before ( thistle's words)Oct 08 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm sure more than a few patent lawyers would proudly display their determination to stagnate progress with that on their business cardsOct 08 20:17
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schestowitz"I sure hope so, Jaro! I can follow Diaspora accounts from identi.ca, but it doesn't go the other way at the moment. :/ "Oct 08 20:26
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/586083Oct 08 20:26
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MinceRhttps://p.twimg.com/AbQO2bXCIAI5CLv.jpgOct 08 20:29
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schestowitzMinceR: well putOct 08 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] better for who exactly? would they be ok if it had been patented and licensed in a copyleft manner?Oct 08 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Upgrading from CM 7.0.3 RC1 to the latest nightly. Wish me luck !!!Oct 08 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Excited to be at the Ubuntu Release Party in London on Thursday - be there! http://is.gd/BwCQ0g #ubuntu #locoteamsOct 08 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @wayneborean Futurist Prediction: Four years into the ebook revolution: Publishers are Lost in Space - http://ur1.ca/5c86gOct 08 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: and i am raising a streakerOct 08 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sometimes. Not always.Oct 08 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] mattl started development of foocorp/local http://ur1.ca/5c8nh http://b1t.it/GCHOct 08 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] eliminated in the first round. now I have more time to drink with the other competitors ;)Oct 08 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra they are called "beardos"Oct 08 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 and i am raising a streakerOct 08 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @psquid The most fun segfaults are the ones that don't happen when stepping through the code in gdb.Oct 08 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] mattl pushed 1 commit to foocorp/local:master http://ur1.ca/5c8nh http://b1t.it/GCLOct 08 20:52
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schestowitzMinceR: wbOct 08 20:58
schestowitzmemecake: wbOct 08 20:58
schestowitzwe used to mostly be focused on NovellOct 08 20:58
schestowitznow we're focused on freedomOct 08 20:59
schestowitza a bit l;ike librevisOct 08 20:59
schestowitz*liberOct 08 20:59
memecakethanksOct 08 20:59
schestowitznot much from the site for a while... since those gaming tournaments (freedomware)Oct 08 21:00
schestowitznot in lxer anywayOct 08 21:00
memecaketrue, I changed a lot since those timesOct 08 21:00
schestowitzbut the anarchistic inclinations (of sorts) have become more popular with #occupyXXXXOct 08 21:01
memecakeprobably anarcho-socialist type..Oct 08 21:02
schestowitznot allOct 08 21:02
schestowitzbut the ones I see in Manchester tend to be thoseOct 08 21:02
schestowitzI want to visith #occupyMCR people todayOct 08 21:02
memecakeManchester NH?Oct 08 21:02
schestowitznear town halOct 08 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] mattl pushed 1 commit to foocorp/local:master http://ur1.ca/5c8nh http://b1t.it/GCQOct 08 21:02
schestowitzAlso on ThursdayOct 08 21:02
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memecaketbh I don't know where to start or even if to say anything :)Oct 08 21:04
schestowitzhehOct 08 21:06
schestowitzI remember older days of libervisOct 08 21:06
schestowitzI marked it as autojoin nowOct 08 21:06
schestowitzit has good people thereOct 08 21:06
schestowitzand here we're very liberal, generallt speaking, the updates are tooOct 08 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] mattl pushed 2 commits to foocorp/local:master http://ur1.ca/5c8nh http://b1t.it/GCUOct 08 21:07
memecakeyeah, that's the thing.. the only one who really moved libervis was (the old) me, and that person is gone.. Oct 08 21:07
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memecakeI don't agree with the FS movement, with liberals, or tea party, or occupy movement or anarchist socialists, and I don't believe in politics anymoreOct 08 21:08
memecaketech rights come down to the property rights in my mind, and the freedom of every individual to chooseOct 08 21:09
memecakedevelopers, companies etc. have the right to choose what to offer, under which terms, and others have the right to decline or acceptOct 08 21:09
schestowitzrightOct 08 21:09
schestowitzbut not all get to chooseOct 08 21:10
schestowitzconsider patents, lockin, bribes, etc.Oct 08 21:10
schestowitzMany people don't choose to buy Windows with a computerOct 08 21:10
schestowitzin our site we have a thing called TechChoices and a section on patentsOct 08 21:10
schestowitzwhich impede one's right to make an offeringOct 08 21:10
schestowitzwe're not the FSF typesOct 08 21:10
schestowitzalthough there are overlaps in placesOct 08 21:10
memecakeI definitely oppose patents, and oppose companies' use of them to gain advantagesOct 08 21:12
schestowitzit's out #1 objectiveOct 08 21:12
schestowitzsince last year or 2009Oct 08 21:13
schestowitzjust to give some backgroundOct 08 21:13
schestowitzcause we haven't spoken for ages :-)Oct 08 21:13
memecakeok :)Oct 08 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's !InconstantMoon serialization chapter posted: http://ur1.ca/5c8x6 !SelfPubOct 08 21:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inconstant Moon – 133 .::. Size~: 16.74 KBOct 08 21:14
koolhead17schestowitz http://www.muktware.com/news/2618Oct 08 21:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs | Muktware .::. Size~: 37.7 KBOct 08 21:15
koolhead17swapnil has written it wellOct 08 21:15
memecakethe lockin thing is a bit more complicated.. I remember my old arguments and can understand why people in the FS movement define freedom the way they do and how they look at lock in, but from a voluntaryist perspective where everyone has the right to do as he wishes with own property, lock ins of some kinds become legitimate...Oct 08 21:17
memecakeif I build a bunch of products and make them interact with each other nicely I've built an ecosystem.. there's nothing that should morally require me to make those products interact as nicely with the products of competitors.. that should only happen if it is in my interests or a part of my visionOct 08 21:18
schestowitzkoolhead17: swapnil rocksOct 08 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is frankenspock with 76 dents!Oct 08 21:19
koolhead17schestowitz yeah he cracked it well. these morons acting like shit head and going gaga :POct 08 21:19
memecakeanyway I'm not gonna rant (it'd take an entire article pointed at these to me old philosophies to explain everything).. the point is, I think we're more different than it may seem :)Oct 08 21:20
koolhead17jono: pingOct 08 21:22
koolhead17schestowitz what elseeOct 08 21:26
jonohey koolhead17Oct 08 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] i can honestly say ..... i dislike #google+ with a passionOct 08 21:27
schestowitzmemecake: point taken. But sometimes when standards exist it makes sense to adhere to them.Oct 08 21:28
schestowitzjono: like I said RMS was misinterpreted by someOct 08 21:28
schestowitzjono: in case you are interested in an analysis of the misunderstanding: http://www.muktware.com/news/2618Oct 08 21:29
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schestowitzjono: just in case..Oct 08 21:29
schestowitzI'm upset when people are misunderstoodOct 08 21:29
schestowitzjono: you too would understandOct 08 21:29
schestowitzjono: many people someitmes misinterept your intention, e.g. re OpenRespectOct 08 21:29
schestowitzjono: Calling it an attack on Free software proponents and suchOct 08 21:29
schestowitzIt's unfair to attack straw men, that was basically my pointOct 08 21:30
jonoschestowitz yupOct 08 21:31
schestowitzthanksOct 08 21:31
schestowitzjono: I thought at the time (FLOSS Weekly) that I too was misattributed thingsOct 08 21:31
jonoschestowitz well, I think times have changed since thenOct 08 21:31
jonoI see you very differently today schestowitzOct 08 21:31
DaemonFCapparently Microsoft is throwing in a complete antimalware thing in Windows 8Oct 08 21:32
schestowitzjono: To give one example, viewers are given that impression that I nymshift, when it fact it's just someone who sometimes hangs out in IRC did that. Same for that "fink" troll, whom I don't know.Oct 08 21:32
DaemonFCI don't think the antivirus companies are going to like thisOct 08 21:32
schestowitzI can't be asked to defend the actions of people whom I don't even know.Oct 08 21:32
jonoschestowitz bear in mind that it was different back then, things are better todayOct 08 21:32
jonoI think your reputation is far better todayOct 08 21:32
schestowitzjono: good luck in next week's releaseOct 08 21:33
jonothanks schestowitzOct 08 21:33
jonoyou coming to the release party?Oct 08 21:33
schestowitzI will support it with enthusiasm, I'm still a Ubuntu user (7 years now)Oct 08 21:33
schestowitznoOct 08 21:33
jonothats a shameOct 08 21:33
jonoschestowitz I think we can fix our problems in Ubuntu Oct 08 21:33
schestowitzI'm better off promoting onlineOct 08 21:33
jonoQA is our key challengeOct 08 21:33
DaemonFClots of bugs in Unity, lots of Microsoft software in the default installOct 08 21:34
schestowitzunity ought to be mature nowOct 08 21:34
DaemonFCI think the best thing to do is just avoid their default versionOct 08 21:34
schestowitzi spoke to my friend/employee joshOct 08 21:34
schestowitzhe got the latest ubuntuOct 08 21:34
schestowitzhe doesn't know the jarginOct 08 21:34
schestowitzbut I asked him about the new GIOct 08 21:34
schestowitzHe likes itOct 08 21:34
DaemonFCit still crashes a lot Oct 08 21:34
schestowitzHe's quite new to LinuxOct 08 21:34
schestowitzand he previously used gnome 2.30Oct 08 21:34
schestowitztim's wife also likes unityOct 08 21:35
jonoschestowitz well bear in mind this is only our second distro release of UnityOct 08 21:35
jonoand 11.10 is much better in my opinion than 11.04Oct 08 21:35
schestowitzjono: his wife is coming back from the hospital, having given birth to tim's first daughterOct 08 21:35
schestowitzI'm the godfatherOct 08 21:35
DaemonFCyou still break everything that should run in the system trayOct 08 21:35
jonoschestowitz Tim had a baby?Oct 08 21:35
DaemonFCthat's just completely stupidOct 08 21:35
schestowitzyou didn't see his tummy :-)Oct 08 21:35
jonothat is awesome!! :-)Oct 08 21:36
MinceRFedora is better than bothOct 08 21:36
schestowitzhe disapora'd about itOct 08 21:36
jonoI am delighted for him :-)Oct 08 21:36
MinceRno mono by default, no unity, no indicator appletsOct 08 21:36
jonohe is a great guyOct 08 21:36
jonoand congrats on being a godfather schestowitz :-)Oct 08 21:36
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/582406Oct 08 21:36
schestowitzif you have an account, say somehting to him, he's loving itOct 08 21:36
DaemonFCMinceR: Don't you like being forced to relearn everything just so they look different than the distributions that work?Oct 08 21:36
DaemonFC:)Oct 08 21:36
DaemonFCa lot of the GUI concepts they use are blatantly ripped off and are designed to control the userOct 08 21:37
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schestowitzjono: they made me an offer I couldn't refuse :-)Oct 08 21:37
jonoschestowitz of course! :-)Oct 08 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Town Without Poverty? Canada's Guaranteed Income #Experiment -- Society's Child -- Sott.net - #gov http://goo.gl/jZIo6Oct 08 21:37
schestowitzpunOct 08 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Town Without Poverty? Canada's Guaranteed Income Experiment -- Society's Child -- Sott.net .::. Size~: 63.52 KBOct 08 21:37
schestowitzoh, so you do have an account. awesomeOct 08 21:38
*schestowitz back to codingOct 08 21:40
koolhead17schestowitz add me on diaspora :DOct 08 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I think it's more a blind belief that patents are inherently good...Oct 08 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @diaz #vim #learn Open Vim http://www.openvim.com/Oct 08 21:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Vim .::. Size~: 3.15 KBOct 08 21:42
schestowitzkoolhead17: doneOct 08 21:43
koolhead17schestowitz :P and yes who offered you new job now :DOct 08 21:43
schestowitzkoolhead17: why?Oct 08 21:44
koolhead17schestowitz curios :DOct 08 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] The !OccupyWallStreet protest that doesn't exist, according to the media. http://nd.gd/yg Nothing to see here...move along now.Oct 08 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Studio Regency: Inspired by History .::. Size~: 11.91 KBOct 08 21:44
schestowitzkoolhead17: when?Oct 08 21:45
schestowitzI got new contractsOct 08 21:45
schestowitzbut direct\Oct 08 21:45
koolhead17(02:04:25  IST) schestowitz: jono: they made me an offer I couldn't refuse :-)Oct 08 21:45
koolhead17:)Oct 08 21:45
schestowitzohOct 08 21:45
schestowitzit's a famous sayingOct 08 21:45
schestowitz!google offer  refuse godfatherOct 08 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Godfather - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_GodfatherOct 08 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Godfather (1972) - Memorable quotes | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/quotesOct 08 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - can't refuse - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCh8uCOPbH7IOct 08 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Make him an offer he can't refuse | http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/an-offer-he-cant-refuse.htmlOct 08 21:45
schestowitzsee [3]Oct 08 21:46
koolhead17okOct 08 21:46
koolhead17:)Oct 08 21:46
koolhead17schestowitz what is the url for logging to diaspora?Oct 08 21:46
koolhead17:POct 08 21:46
koolhead17joindiasporaOct 08 21:47
schestowitzit's a memeOct 08 21:47
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZLrHijih9A&NR=1Oct 08 21:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An offer you can't refuse       - YouTube .::. Size~: 86.35 KBOct 08 21:47
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeldwfOwuL8&NR=1Oct 08 21:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse       - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.81 KBOct 08 21:47
schestowitzrecurring themeOct 08 21:47
koolhead17kOct 08 21:47
jonoheading out, later folksOct 08 21:48
jonocongrats again schestowitz :-)Oct 08 21:48
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koolhead17schestowitz adding my photo and all details in diasporaOct 08 21:50
koolhead17:DOct 08 21:50
DaemonFChttp://www.itworld.com/software/211207/even-big-discount-yahoo-acquisition-would-be-mistake-microsoftOct 08 21:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Even at a big discount, Yahoo acquisition would be a mistake for Microsoft | ITworld .::. Size~: 117.11 KBOct 08 21:52
DaemonFCMicrosoft has waited a while for Yahoo to waste away and not be in a position to refuse themOct 08 21:52
DaemonFCnow it looks like they're going to buy what's left at fire sale pricesOct 08 21:53
schestowitzsome people in Yahoo management are from MicrodoftOct 08 21:55
schestowitzso it'll be harder for yahoo to say noOct 08 21:55
schestowitzkoolhead17: koolOct 08 21:56
koolhead17am all set :)Oct 08 22:04
schestowitzkoolOct 08 22:05
schestowitzlet me check somethingOct 08 22:06
schestowitz!google twitter declineOct 08 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Social Media: Chalk Up Twitter's Decline to Ghost Followers ... | http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/social-media-chalk-twitter-s-decline-ghost-followers/140791/Oct 08 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Twitter on a decline? | http://www.dollarshower.com/twitter-on-decline/Oct 08 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Twitter on the decline and Facebook on the rise? | Seoul Space ... | http://seoulspace.co.kr/2011/01/11/twitter-on-the-decline-and-facebook-on-the-rise/Oct 08 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Is Twitter on the decline? The numbers say so. | Techi.com | http://www.techi.com/2010/04/is-twitter-on-the-decline-the-numbers-say-so/Oct 08 22:06
schestowitzI think FB and G+ have had some negative impactOct 08 22:06
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/194451/has_twitter_lost_its_tweetness.html?tk=rss_newsOct 08 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Has Twitter Lost its Tweetness? | PCWorld .::. Size~: 80.34 KBOct 08 22:08
schestowitznothing from 2011 thoughOct 08 22:08
schestowitzhttp://seoulspace.co.kr/2011/01/11/twitter-on-the-decline-and-facebook-on-the-rise/Oct 08 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter on the decline and Facebook on the rise?   |  Seoul Space: Startup Incubator. Coworking Hub.  IT Blog.  Localization Agency. .::. Size~: 33.73 KBOct 08 22:09
schestowitz2011Oct 08 22:09
schestowitzkorea thoughOct 08 22:09
schestowitzIn korea, onlu old people use twitterOct 08 22:09
schestowitzdead people use hotmailOct 08 22:09
schestowitzhttp://www.jeffbullas.com/2011/10/07/steve-jobs-death-smashes-twitter-traffic-records/Oct 08 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Jobs Death Smashes Twitter Traffic Records  | Jeffbullas's Blog .::. Size~: 54.78 KBOct 08 22:11
schestowitzmehOct 08 22:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] German Government's Malware Analyzed - Slashdot #eu #surveillance #policestate http://goo.gl/UP6MKOct 08 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: German Government's Malware Analyzed - Slashdot .::. Size~: 63.56 KBOct 08 22:16
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/pBqjmOct 08 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: imgur: the simple image sharer .::. Size~: 8.32 KBOct 08 22:23
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/gallery/GSdT9Oct 08 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oh...You're home early..... - Imgur .::. Size~: 52.09 KBOct 08 22:24
schestowitzhttp://www.quickmeme.com/meme/355tb8/Oct 08 22:25
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DaemonFCcan't sleepOct 08 22:26
DaemonFCclowns will eat meOct 08 22:26
schestowitz:>Oct 08 22:26
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/gallery/RICtROct 08 22:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Truth. - Imgur .::. Size~: 30.18 KBOct 08 22:26
MinceRimagine if steve jobs would have been born! use a condom!Oct 08 22:26
DaemonFCI've usually worn a condom but not because of fear of getting anyone pregnantOct 08 22:28
DaemonFCthe Jews invented HIV you knowOct 08 22:28
DaemonFC:)Oct 08 22:28
DaemonFCthen they invested in condom companiesOct 08 22:28
DaemonFCcan't you see their evil plan unfolding?Oct 08 22:29
schestowitzThe Westboro Baptist Church  inevnted HIVOct 08 22:30
schestowitzto punish gaysOct 08 22:30
schestowitzsrly though, did you hrar about them wanting to picket Jobs' funeralOct 08 22:31
schestowitzI guess they'll say "God hates Apple"Oct 08 22:31
schestowitzbecause of the new CEOOct 08 22:32
schestowitzTHey are real-life trollsOct 08 22:32
DaemonFCyeah, it's like can you top thisOct 08 22:32
schestowitzand it works for themOct 08 22:32
DaemonFCSteve Jobs dies, OK, one less dickhead in the worldOct 08 22:32
DaemonFCbut then some dickheads who I dislike more go and decide to picket his funeralOct 08 22:32
DaemonFCpicketing a funeral is a pretty lame way to make your pointOct 08 22:33
schestowitzI think the police said it would step inOct 08 22:33
DaemonFCit's just trolling for attentionOct 08 22:33
schestowitzJobs is richOct 08 22:33
schestowitznobody can picket a rich man's funeralOct 08 22:33
DaemonFCthe police should step inOct 08 22:33
schestowitzonyl poor soldiers...Oct 08 22:33
schestowitzHey, apple IS the appleOct 08 22:34
DaemonFCin any funeral they disturb Oct 08 22:34
schestowitz!google apple impersonates policeOct 08 22:34
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Apple Allegedly Impersonates Police, Attacks Linux, Finds Support ... | http://techrights.org/2011/09/02/apple-crime-allegations/Oct 08 22:34
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Apple Security Impersonates San Francisco Police | http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-wants-the-missing-iphone-5-back-so-badly-that-its-employees-may-be-impersonating-police-offers-2011-9Oct 08 22:34
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - HARDOCP - Apple Impersonates Police To Search Home For Lost ... | http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/09/02/apple_impersonates_police_to_search_home_for_lost_iphone_5/Oct 08 22:34
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Apple Impersonates Police To Search Home For Lost iPhone 5 - [H ... | http://hardforum.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1633753Oct 08 22:34
MinceRhave the police ever stepped in when they picketed a funeral?Oct 08 22:34
MinceRafaik noOct 08 22:34
DaemonFCMinceR: yesOct 08 22:34
schestowitzyeahOct 08 22:34
DaemonFCincluding in my townOct 08 22:34
schestowitzmore latterlyOct 08 22:34
DaemonFCthey arrested the Phelps cultists for disorderly conductOct 08 22:35
DaemonFClong enough to get them the hell out of there and let the funeral go on undisturbedOct 08 22:35
DaemonFCthe judge cut them loose the next day with a fineOct 08 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wish I knew what the colour coding in #Qwit meant - I suppose I could read the docs... Why didn't !Qwit have agroup? Does nowOct 08 22:36
schestowitzDaemonFC: fineOct 08 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wish I knew what the colour coding in #Qwit meant - I suppose I could read the docs... Why didn't !Qwit have a group? It does nowOct 08 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's a shame !list isn't an official !identica group. I doesn't appear to be working very well at the momentOct 08 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] George Soros Controls All Arms & Ammo Makers In The U.S. | Before It's News #usa #nwo #nra http://goo.gl/SZ4L9Oct 08 22:52
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schestowitzThanks all! - My wife is now out of hospital and we are all home. I can feel in the near future that there will be a few new Diaspora accounts from the Goblin clan once they've been introduced to computing! ""Oct 08 22:55
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/582406Oct 08 22:55
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_Goblin:)Oct 08 23:08
_GoblinAnd now its a peaceful time....Oct 08 23:08
_Goblinkids asleep....Oct 08 23:08
_Goblinand I'm now getting into trouble for everything I did wrong whilst the wife was in hospital....Oct 08 23:09
schestowitz"kids"Oct 08 23:09
_Goblingiving Daniel too many sweets....not doing the dishes....having a mud fight in the gardenOct 08 23:09
schestowitzmud fight?Oct 08 23:10
_Goblinyeah...I came off worse....Oct 08 23:10
schestowitzwell, you can retain more mudOct 08 23:10
schestowitzYou're bigger than DanielOct 08 23:10
_GoblinDaniel was throwing mud...Oct 08 23:10
schestowitznaughtyOct 08 23:10
_GoblinI was trying to avoid....badly.Oct 08 23:10
schestowitzat least he didn't disconnect you for a weekOct 08 23:10
_GoblinlolOct 08 23:11
schestowitzhe's worse than Lord MndyOct 08 23:11
schestowitzDaniel Economy ActOct 08 23:11
schestowitz"too many torrents !!"Oct 08 23:11
_Goblinand the only reason I was found out about the sweets was Daniel grassed me up to shell the moment she came backOct 08 23:11
schestowitzlolOct 08 23:11
_GoblinI think he was hoping that Shell would reward his act of honesty with more sweets.Oct 08 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @jargon @parlementum one of my favorite features of the #identiverse is @stav's #onthisdate posts.Oct 08 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK I forgot the link, didn't I? http://j.mp/pF3Px5Oct 08 23:21
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jono_Goblin, congrats, pal!Oct 08 23:22
_Goblinthanks!Oct 08 23:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The attempted assassination of Julian Assange (video) http://t.co/zi3UnxAVOct 08 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome Web Browser Adds Remote Desktop Software | Geekosystem - http://goo.gl/b5kWBOct 08 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck een punt te veel.Oct 08 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 ze maken niks meer. Het enige wat ze doen is tegen zijn, wat niks uithaalt. Zie http://u http://ur1. ...Oct 08 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @biertie I was? I probably was ignorant and sheepy around that time ;)Oct 08 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Dat was maar A! #wieAzegtOct 08 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp heeft er iemand een spannender leven dan we vermoedden?Oct 08 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @mobilevikings - 3 dagen Polen, is dat best onbereikbaar zijn voor 3 dagen of valt dat nog mee qua roamingprijs?Oct 08 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: oh! Speaking of such, I've put all Belgian zipcodes in a RESTful API yesterday :) http://t.co/mWlDnJa6Oct 08 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @sclopit: http://t.co/5l63jQsS real time French train delay statistics, visualization (via @datapublicatwit )Oct 08 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: The Other Steve Jobs: Censorship, Control and Labor Rights http://ur1.ca/5c4uiOct 08 23:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @asm: Occupy Wall Street: a coisa mais importante do mundo hoje http://ur1.ca/5c7k4 via @OperaMundiOct 08 23:58
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