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| DaemonFC | Ballmer: "Well, we fucking killed them. I guess we can fucking stop fucking thumbing our fucking noses now." | Dec 19 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | This is worse than that time Steve Ballmer moved into the apartment next door" *bed squeaking rhythmically* "DEVELOPERS!!!! DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!!" | Dec 19 00:02 |
| cubezzz | there was even an Amiga Mosiac | Dec 19 00:02 |
| cubezzz | Amosiac :) | Dec 19 00:03 |
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| DiabloD3 | I almost thought what was going to be funny, then I took an arrow to the knee | Dec 19 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | "WHO SAID GO DOWN!?!?!?!" "Honey, get the Viagra!" | Dec 19 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | few minutes later. "WINDOWS!....WINDOWS!!!..WINDOWS!!!.WINDOWS!!!!WINDOWS!!!WINDOWS!!!!!" | Dec 19 00:05 |
| MinceR | Amnesiac? | Dec 19 00:05 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Dec 19 00:05 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: "i've got four words for you!" | Dec 19 00:05 |
| schestowitz | I | Dec 19 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Love | Dec 19 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Developers. | Dec 19 00:06 |
| schestowitz | YEAH! | Dec 19 00:06 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 19 00:06 |
| *DiabloD3 listens to digital droo - developers | Dec 19 00:06 | |
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| cubezzz | hard to believe IE once had a 95% market share | Dec 19 00:07 |
| DiabloD3 | cubezzz: it never did | Dec 19 00:07 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Kenz - Game Over | Dec 19 00:07 | |
| DiabloD3 | it was a carefully orchestrated attack on civil liberties by known terrorists | Dec 19 00:07 |
| *DaemonFC sets mode +developers | Dec 19 00:07 | |
| MinceR | s/./Developers! /g | Dec 19 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE | Dec 19 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Developers - YouTube .::. Size~: 126.48 KB | Dec 19 00:09 |
| cubezzz | Jan. 1994 -> Mosaic 97% | Dec 19 00:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange could be handed over to US | Telegraph http://t.co/buC5Evgz | Dec 19 00:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Man questioned over woman burned alive in elevator http://gu.com/p/3479b - sometimes words fail :( | Dec 19 00:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 00:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Man questioned over woman burned alive in elevator | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 89.74 KB | Dec 19 00:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: US "Withdrawal" In #Iraq Paves Way for US-Israeli Strike on #Iran - #usa #nato http://goo.gl/6GXbU | Dec 19 00:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Activist Post: US "Withdrawal" In Iraq Paves Way for US-Israeli Strike on Iran .::. Size~: 201.53 KB | Dec 19 00:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] SOPA creator received half a million dollars from the TV/Film/Music lobby http://identi.ca/url/62766590 !eff | Dec 19 00:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SOPA Creator In TV/Film/Music Industry's Pocket - Slashdot .::. Size~: 258.58 KB | Dec 19 00:16 |
| MinceR | hm, i never clicked that Shop button | Dec 19 00:19 |
| MinceR | probably because i always found the Stop button graphically, not by reading the label :> | Dec 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | I just removed it and made my own distribution of Netscape | Dec 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | which was absolutely in compliance with their distributor license | Dec 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | my version simply removed all the self-promoting crap | Dec 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | and all the stuff that would confuse the user, clutter the interface, and load Java to play a midi | Dec 19 00:20 |
| MinceR | and then Mozilla never had it :> | Dec 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | at least to the extent that that was possible with Netscape Navigator | Dec 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | and Communicator | Dec 19 00:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @dannolan: So Assange gets less consular help than a paedophile would. Great job, Gillard government. https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Dec 19 00:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I discontinued my custom Netscape releases around the time I felt Mozilla has progressed far enough to be in general use | Dec 19 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | and then I recommended Mozilla Suite | Dec 19 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I mentioned all the useless crap that Netscape added and the slow and unpredictable release cycle of Mozilla Suite-based Netscape as my reason for recommending something that said it wasn't an end user product | Dec 19 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | at that time, Mozilla was still claiming their binaries weren't for end users and that you should use Netscape | Dec 19 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | because they were basically ran by Netscape | Dec 19 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | and Netscape only got paid because of that crap they threw in | Dec 19 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape branded Mozilla Suite releases were not only stuffed with AOL spyware and advertising and useless crap | Dec 19 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | many versions of Mozilla Suite were released in between Netscape-branded releases | Dec 19 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | so bugs that had been fixed upstream still affected users of Netscape-branded Mozilla browsers for months after they had already been closed in Mozilla Suite | Dec 19 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | and Netscape branded Mozilla browsers undermined the features that Mozilla Suite added. They removed the advanced cookie controls and the pop-up blocker for example | Dec 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | so I never recommended Netscape-branded Mozilla Suite to anyone | Dec 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | and just told people to use Mozilla Suite instead | Dec 19 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | then Netscape made that abomination Netscape Navigator 8 that switched back and forth between IE and Gecko and only ran on Windows | Dec 19 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | and managed to break Internet Explorer (hehe) | Dec 19 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | the last releases of Navigator and Messenger were version "9", which returned it to being available on Linux and Mac, but it was only skins for Firefox 2 and Thunderbird 2 | Dec 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | and a couple of unimportant features that were available as add-ons for Firefox anyway | Dec 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | The Mozilla Public License still has a bunch of clauses that were designed around Netscape's business interests | Dec 19 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | some even mention Netscape by name | Dec 19 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | and the MPL 2 deletes those, among other improvements | Dec 19 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | there's a cloud over the CDDL even though it's effectively just MPL with some minor changes | Dec 19 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | the "free software" people have basically made it politically incorrect to release under that license even though it is free and open source | Dec 19 00:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @RaineyReitman: For the record, Bradley Manning Support Network sought 2 media passes. One was granted and then rescinded. One denied ... | Dec 19 00:32 | |
| DaemonFC | and even went so far as to fork and break cdrtools because the author switched from the GPL to the CDDL | Dec 19 00:33 |
| MinceR | that's because CDDL was Sun's way of saying "but not for Linux!" | Dec 19 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's not GPL compatible | Dec 19 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | but neither are many open source and "free" licenses | Dec 19 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | which aren't being blackballed and slandered | Dec 19 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | including Mozilla's | Dec 19 00:34 |
| MinceR | the point is that the whole point of Sun using CDDL _was_ to be incompatible with the GPL | Dec 19 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's their code | Dec 19 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | it belongs to them | Dec 19 00:34 |
| schestowitz | designed by one who now works for Bill gates | Dec 19 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | they can license it however they like | Dec 19 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Denise Cooper | Dec 19 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | personally I think free software under the CDDL is preferable to closed source proprietary software | Dec 19 00:35 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: who said otherwise? | Dec 19 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | and I would hope anyone would agree with me that the CDDL was an improvement to the code that used to be closed source and proprietary | Dec 19 00:35 |
| schestowitz | CDDL ain't done until GPL can';t run | Dec 19 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with using userspace applications that are licensed under the CDDL | Dec 19 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | if you say there is, stop using Firefox because the MPL is essentially the same thing | Dec 19 00:36 |
| MinceR | and yet it's understandable that the CDDL has bad reputation, if it has that | Dec 19 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | in the case of the Solaris code that many people want to port to Linux and can't, the CDDL is a disappointment | Dec 19 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | in the case of something like cdrtools, I neither care nor see why I should | Dec 19 00:37 |
| MinceR | more than just "a disappointment" | Dec 19 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | userspace software being under the CDDL won't stop me from using it if it does something I consider useful, JUST because it's under the CDDL | Dec 19 00:38 |
| MinceR | the FSF raised another issue: the CDDL uses the term "intellectual property" | Dec 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | I think there are better licenses, but I didn't write that code and it's nice that it is under a free and open license even if it is the CDDL | Dec 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | lots of open source and free licenses use that term | Dec 19 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | including the MPL | Dec 19 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | several times | Dec 19 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 00:39 |
| MinceR | tell the FSF that | Dec 19 00:39 |
| MinceR | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html | Dec 19 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Various Licenses and Comments about Them - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 97.53 KB | Dec 19 00:39 |
| DiabloD3 | lolopensource | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DiabloD3 | dude | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DiabloD3 | Im going to write code thats under a license that you have to give me everything you own | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DiabloD3 | to use it | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.html | Dec 19 00:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla Public License version 1.1 .::. Size~: 26.83 KB | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DiabloD3 | and then convince companies to use it | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DiabloD3 | :3 | Dec 19 00:40 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: it might not be legally workable | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | 6 occurrences of "intellectual property" | Dec 19 00:40 |
| MinceR | but try it anyway :> | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DiabloD3 | I might even get a few hot woemn out of it | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | I guess you better tell RMS that | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 00:40 |
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| MinceR | women can be owned? | Dec 19 00:40 |
| DiabloD3 | slavery is still legal in some countries | Dec 19 00:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @RaineyReitman: Headed home to type up notes. Public and media were thrown out of the hearing for a while, over the objections of the ... | Dec 19 00:41 | |
| MinceR | well i suppose according to "christian morality", they can | Dec 19 00:41 |
| DiabloD3 | problem is they keep marrying underaged women | Dec 19 00:41 |
| DiabloD3 | I'll have to keep them chained up until they mature | Dec 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | MPL version 2 is better | Dec 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | it only says "intellectual property" once | Dec 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | 1.1 says it six times | Dec 19 00:42 |
| abeNd-org | the christians i know wouldnt support slavery & underage marriage, so not every single one of them is that far out there | Dec 19 00:42 |
| DiabloD3 | abeNd-org: dont worry, I know a few that do. | Dec 19 00:42 |
| DiabloD3 | so it all balances out in the end | Dec 19 00:42 |
| MinceR | abeNd-org: i guess it's time for them to read some scripture, then | Dec 19 00:42 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: well, the problem is | Dec 19 00:42 |
| MinceR | or stop pretending that their values are determined by some of the worst works of fiction | Dec 19 00:43 |
| DiabloD3 | the bible clearly states God created Mankind in the image | Dec 19 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | MPL 1.1 is one of those licenses that was written by lawyers with Tourette Syndrome | Dec 19 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:39] <DaemonFC> including the MPL | Dec 19 00:43 |
| schestowitz | similar | Dec 19 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Intellectual Property Intellectual Property Intellectual Property Intellectual Property Intellectual Property DERP TITS!!! | Dec 19 00:43 |
| DiabloD3 | (notice the hebrew does NOT say God created us in HIS image) | Dec 19 00:43 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: developers developers developers! | Dec 19 00:44 |
| DiabloD3 | the bible also says he created us bifurcated and equal. | Dec 19 00:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Examining the Usability of #Gnome, #Unity and #KDE - Slashdot - #floss #gnulinux http://goo.gl/FzM0x | Dec 19 00:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Examining the Usability of Gnome, Unity and KDE - Slashdot .::. Size~: 202.25 KB | Dec 19 00:44 |
| DiabloD3 | so, any attempt to marginalize women in society is clearly a sin according to the bible | Dec 19 00:44 |
| abeNd-org | DiabloD3: im guessing the same type of folks who live in a "compound"? | Dec 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | I think almost every web browser worth mentioning has some files under a license that uses that term | Dec 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just Mozilla | Dec 19 00:45 |
| DiabloD3 | God's wrath is not limited to open fields, it works indoors too. | Dec 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | Konqueror and KHTML/KJS don't | Dec 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | they're under the GPL and LGPL | Dec 19 00:46 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: at the same time, other parts of the same book command people to marginalize women | Dec 19 00:46 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: no it doesnt, and thats largely mistranslations | Dec 19 00:46 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: but then, this is not surprising from a book where the first two sections clearly contradict each other | Dec 19 00:46 |
| DiabloD3 | it DOES tell stories where such things happened | Dec 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to use Konqueror with KHTML to avoid the word "Intellectual Property" in the license files, go ahead | Dec 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | *words | Dec 19 00:46 |
| DiabloD3 | but it does so out of historical interest | Dec 19 00:46 |
| MinceR | http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/womens_rights.html | Dec 19 00:47 |
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| DiabloD3 | MinceR: well, I believe this... if God exists and he created Mankind, then Common Sense is God's gift to man. | Dec 19 00:47 |
| DiabloD3 | And anything in the Bible that conflicts with Common Sense is clearly Satanic and needs to be purged. | Dec 19 00:47 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: do you also believe that this "God" is omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent at the same time? | Dec 19 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | Hmm mobile phones | Dec 19 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: What's funny about GNUZilla is that the FSF turns around and uses the same disjunctive tri-licensing that Mozilla does, so the FSF themselves distribute software which refers to Intellectual Property, six times | Dec 19 00:48 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: yes, but theres a small problem with that. | Dec 19 00:48 |
| DiabloD3 | God still must move at relativistic speeds. | Dec 19 00:48 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it's the only legal way they can do so | Dec 19 00:48 |
| DiabloD3 | And interfering on Earth would probably cause the whole Universe to collapse | Dec 19 00:48 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: that contradicts omnipotence | Dec 19 00:48 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: not at all | Dec 19 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | no it isn't | Dec 19 00:48 |
| DiabloD3 | God exists outside of the Universe. | Dec 19 00:49 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Dec 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | they could release it all under the LGPL if they wanted to | Dec 19 00:49 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: afaik the MPL is incompatible with the LGPL as well | Dec 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | disjunctive tri-license | Dec 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | means you can license the whole thing under any one of them | Dec 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 00:49 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: Our minds have been shaped by the laws of *this* Universe | Dec 19 00:50 |
| MinceR | if all three licenses really apply to all the code, that is | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DiabloD3 | We cannot comprehend God because he does not exist in terms that are easily understood | Dec 19 00:50 |
| abeNd-org | anything opensource as an alternative to deepfreeze? | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla uses that licensing on everything they write | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | or accept | Dec 19 00:50 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: that doesn't mean that it is possible to define that "God" as omnipotent and not omnipotent at the same time | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DiabloD3 | Notice everything in the Bible, all descriptions of God, are abstract concepts? | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | for them to accept code, it has to be tri-licensed like that | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: nope, you can | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DiabloD3 | because that relies on OUR Universe | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | but you can take Firefox code and redistribute the entire thing under only the LGPL | Dec 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | that would be legal | Dec 19 00:50 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: no, bible apologists say the parts they don't like are abstract or metaphorical | Dec 19 00:51 |
| DiabloD3 | If God created the Universe, hes not from ours, since he existed it to create it. | Dec 19 00:51 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: logic is not a property of a universe | Dec 19 00:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @JLLLOW: Trafficking marijuana warrants more political protection than publishing in the public interest. http://t.co/STbTIYKh | Dec 19 00:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 00:51 |
| cubezzz | DiabloD3, sounds reasonable | Dec 19 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: What I'm saying is that the FSF compromises when it suits their own agenda | Dec 19 00:51 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: Im not a Bible apologist, Im an atheist. | Dec 19 00:51 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: you don't sound like an atheist | Dec 19 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | they'll use a license that uses the term Intellectual Property six times if it suits them | Dec 19 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | while telling everyone else not to | Dec 19 00:51 |
| DiabloD3 | I'm merely a good troll, MinceR. | Dec 19 00:51 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: and that isnt it, the existence of God is immaterial to pretty much *everything*. | Dec 19 00:52 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: if spouting illogical lines to provoke someone counts as being a "good troll", that is | Dec 19 00:52 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: you aren't even amusing | Dec 19 00:52 |
| DiabloD3 | If God created Mankind, then God created Mankind. | Dec 19 00:52 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I'm just saying if it's something that you should never ever do, then they themselves should drop the MPL | Dec 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | and only use the LGPL option | Dec 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | because the LGPL doesn't use that term | Dec 19 00:53 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: and btw, no, the first two chapters do NOT contradict each other | Dec 19 00:53 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i'm not sure if they said it in such strong terms | Dec 19 00:53 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: yes they do | Dec 19 00:53 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: this myth has come from people repeatedly refusing to read the original hebrew. | Dec 19 00:53 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: they describe the same event in two ways that are logically inconsistent with each other | Dec 19 00:53 |
| DiabloD3 | Genesis 1 lists things God did in an accusation tone | Dec 19 00:53 |
| DiabloD3 | *accusational | Dec 19 00:53 |
| MinceR | ooh, more bible apologism | Dec 19 00:54 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: not at all, its what the hebrew actually says. | Dec 19 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Firefox binaries and source say you can use them under the terms of any of those licenses, at your option | Dec 19 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | So I always just consider my own use to be under the LGPL | Dec 19 00:54 |
| MinceR | so what if it uses an "accusational" tone? | Dec 19 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really like the MPL and its terminology | Dec 19 00:54 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: "God did this, this, this, and this." | Dec 19 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think there should be an MPL 2 | Dec 19 00:55 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: you could ask the FSF about not licensing IceCat &al. under the MPL anymore | Dec 19 00:55 |
| DiabloD3 | It doesnt say how he did it, nor does it go into depth of what actually happened. | Dec 19 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think they should abandon it completely | Dec 19 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | and switch to the FreeBSD license, the LGPL, or the GPL at your choice | Dec 19 00:55 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: and it doesnt help the original Hebrew is extremely dense. It uses the word "Adam" at least four different ways. | Dec 19 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | the MPL is so permissive that the BSD licenses isn't that much of a stretch | Dec 19 00:55 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: and I suspect whoever wrote it originally didn't understand the source material, because its missing certain things | Dec 19 00:56 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they can't do that, they're not the copyright holder | Dec 19 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | and it cuts the permissive option from entire paragraphs that grant exceptions to Netscape to like something that fits on one page | Dec 19 00:56 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: it's well known that the whole thing was copy-pasted together badly from various sources | Dec 19 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | they don't take copyright assignment? | Dec 19 00:56 |
| DiabloD3 | yup, it is. | Dec 19 00:56 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: which is part of why it's so illogical | Dec 19 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They could do what SGI did | Dec 19 00:57 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: its not "illogical" as much as "incomplete" | Dec 19 00:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: you think that the Mozilla Foundation will just assign all the copyright to the FSF when asked nicely? | Dec 19 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | the MPL 1.1 states that you can use it under the terms of a later MPL | Dec 19 00:57 |
| DiabloD3 | and it doesn't help people keep trying to use translations of the text | Dec 19 00:57 |
| DiabloD3 | and in some cases, all we have is translations | Dec 19 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | so they could make the MPL 2 contain the text of the FreeBSD license | Dec 19 00:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i don't think they control the MPL | Dec 19 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | no, I meant Mozilla should do this | Dec 19 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla controls the MPL | Dec 19 00:58 |
| MinceR | why would they? | Dec 19 00:58 |
| DiabloD3 | some of the text that is sourced from the Septuagint (we don't HAVE the original Hebrew) we're sure is translated incorrectly | Dec 19 00:58 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: republican nutjobs seem to believe that the original bible was in english :> | Dec 19 00:58 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: yes, and thus I troll them with superior Biblical knowledge. | Dec 19 00:58 |
| DiabloD3 | It makes them very angry. | Dec 19 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The form of English the King James bible uses is completely fake you know | Dec 19 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | it was invented for the King James bible | Dec 19 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | nobody EVER spoke like that | Dec 19 00:59 |
| MinceR | i think i've read that on TV Tropes | Dec 19 00:59 |
| DiabloD3 | er, read what? | Dec 19 01:00 |
| MinceR | something someone you're ignoring said | Dec 19 01:00 |
| cubezzz | heh | Dec 19 01:00 |
| DiabloD3 | because "dead sea scrolls" on tv tropes is fucking hilarious | Dec 19 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Black Jesus: Yo, I just rode in on an ass! Yo momma's ass!" | Dec 19 01:00 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: that the KJV was written using an artificial archaic version of english | Dec 19 01:00 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Dec 19 01:01 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: thats nonsensical | Dec 19 01:01 |
| DiabloD3 | however its _preserved_ somewhat artifically. | Dec 19 01:01 |
| brendn | next they'll start making him overweight | Dec 19 01:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am happy for her but why have any of us heard of Sissy Spacek #cinema. | Dec 19 01:01 | |
| DiabloD3 | KJV is just not a valid translation of the Bible. | Dec 19 01:01 |
| MinceR | brendn: Overweight Jesus? | Dec 19 01:01 |
| cubezzz | the dead sea scrolls are the oldest surviving copies of the bible yes? | Dec 19 01:01 |
| DiabloD3 | cubezzz: no | Dec 19 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | God, ruler of the universe, master of everything, smiter of cars with falling street lamps* -Texas | Dec 19 01:02 |
| DiabloD3 | its the oldest surviving copies of _some_ biblical text | Dec 19 01:02 |
| brendn | wight people making jesus look like them. I'm just thinking of the next step. | Dec 19 01:02 |
| brendn | wight? | Dec 19 01:02 |
| brendn | dont mind me | Dec 19 01:02 |
| DiabloD3 | wight? wtf. | Dec 19 01:02 |
| DiabloD3 | epic typo is epic | Dec 19 01:02 |
| MinceR | a type of undead. | Dec 19 01:02 |
| brendn | not typo | Dec 19 01:02 |
| MinceR | Wight Jesus | Dec 19 01:02 |
| MinceR | next time: Zombie Jesus | Dec 19 01:02 |
| MinceR | (well, he was one...) | Dec 19 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Your headlight is out. | Dec 19 01:03 |
| MinceR | hm? | Dec 19 01:03 |
| cubezzz | tough to figure out this archaic stuff, easier to research archaic operating systems | Dec 19 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | you're supposed to say no it isn't | Dec 19 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | then I say | Dec 19 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | *SMASH* now it is | Dec 19 01:03 |
| MinceR | at least archaic OSes were useful :> | Dec 19 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | get that fixed | Dec 19 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 01:03 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i think i've lost you | Dec 19 01:03 |
| cubezzz | old unix wasn't too easy to use | Dec 19 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Walking Tall | Dec 19 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | he smashes the guy's headlight while he has him pulled over | Dec 19 01:04 |
| MinceR | i don't think i've seen that | Dec 19 01:04 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: I dunno, I think the only way to recover what the bible should look like is to either re-create it from scratch, or start inserting pieces from other religions | Dec 19 01:05 |
| cubezzz | DiabloD3, how in the world would anyone know if something was inserted, or if it belonged in the first place? | Dec 19 01:06 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: what do you mean by "what the bible should look like"? | Dec 19 01:06 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: I believe it should look something like a physics or chemistry book. | Dec 19 01:07 |
| DiabloD3 | its missing about 50 chapters between genesis 2 and 3. | Dec 19 01:07 |
| MinceR | then the first step is to discard the whole book | Dec 19 01:07 |
| MinceR | and collect some works that make sense and contain useful information | Dec 19 01:07 |
| MinceR | like physics and chemistry books | Dec 19 01:07 |
| MinceR | still, i'm not sure why you'd want to call that a bible | Dec 19 01:07 |
| cubezzz | wikibible :) | Dec 19 01:08 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: well | Dec 19 01:08 |
| cubezzz | the editors have god-like abilities | Dec 19 01:08 |
| DiabloD3 | if I go start my own religion | Dec 19 01:08 |
| DiabloD3 | who cares | Dec 19 01:08 |
| *DiabloD3 HAS considered it. | Dec 19 01:08 | |
| MinceR | well, there is a wiki bible | Dec 19 01:08 |
| MinceR | http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page | Dec 19 01:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Main Page - LOLCat Bible Translation Project .::. Size~: 23.91 KB | Dec 19 01:08 |
| cubezzz | DiabloD3, Church of Rationality, go start it :) | Dec 19 01:09 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: contradiction in terms. | Dec 19 01:09 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: you know whats really screwed up? | Dec 19 01:10 |
| DiabloD3 | if you read genesis 1 and 2 literally | Dec 19 01:10 |
| MinceR | DiabloD3: the human species? | Dec 19 01:10 |
| DiabloD3 | we're mud golems. | Dec 19 01:10 |
| cubezzz | can you cite a passage for that? | Dec 19 01:10 |
| DiabloD3 | Adam (read as: Mankind) was created from adam (read as: the Earth) | Dec 19 01:10 |
| MinceR | translation: To create Adam, you must first create Adam. | Dec 19 01:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 19 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: View Mary Kostakidis crucial statement on freedom of expression and Assange Watch DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? http://t.co/zjzDoxQc | Dec 19 01:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 01:11 |
| cubezzz | now all we have to explain is those pesky fossils :) | Dec 19 01:11 |
| MinceR | iirc the mistaken idea of humans being made out of earth is a common misconception among primitive people | Dec 19 01:11 |
| MinceR | definitely not something to stick to in the 3rd millennium | Dec 19 01:12 |
| DiabloD3 | yes, which is extremely strange when you think about it | Dec 19 01:12 |
| DiabloD3 | how can so many primative peoples believe the SAME things | Dec 19 01:12 |
| MinceR | probably due to extremely shallow thinking | Dec 19 01:12 |
| MinceR | like "herp derp my skin color is similar to earth or sand or whatever" | Dec 19 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | God created Adam and Eve (and didn't account for the whole incest thing that was later a sin under his Revised Rules), not Adam and Steve! :) | Dec 19 01:13 |
| MinceR | "so i must be made out of it" | Dec 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | well the 4 elements were once thought to be air, fire, earth and water | Dec 19 01:13 |
| MinceR | St. Eve? | Dec 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | so out of those four earth makes the most sense :) | Dec 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | it would be cool to be a fire golem though | Dec 19 01:14 |
| DiabloD3 | cubezzz: yet according to THAT thinking, we are made of all four. | Dec 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | God changes his mind an awful lot for a deity that never changes his mind | Dec 19 01:14 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: that would be a fire elemental, not a golem :> | Dec 19 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | anyone else notice that? | Dec 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | ah right | Dec 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | right, we got water, we got earth, we burp (air) but what about the fire part? | Dec 19 01:15 |
| cubezzz | heartburn? | Dec 19 01:15 |
| MinceR | body heat | Dec 19 01:15 |
| DiabloD3 | the light of the soul? | Dec 19 01:15 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Dec 19 01:15 |
| DiabloD3 | MinceR: you know, I should start taking all modern scientific thought | Dec 19 01:15 |
| DiabloD3 | and start obscuring it in biblical-like text | Dec 19 01:16 |
| DiabloD3 | it should be lol | Dec 19 01:16 |
| cubezzz | just make a science textbook and fool people into thinking it's scripture :) | Dec 19 01:16 |
| cubezzz | reverse indoctrination | Dec 19 01:16 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: you'd lose the cultists' attention before you could get far | Dec 19 01:16 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, you could promise them lots of babes or something | Dec 19 01:17 |
| cubezzz | oh there was aether as well | Dec 19 01:18 |
| cubezzz | I forget what that meant | Dec 19 01:18 |
| MinceR | empty space or something like that | Dec 19 01:18 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 19 01:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A word 'habituation'. | Dec 19 01:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I just recognised the name of an American Football player from a previous game. It is a good game apart from the bloody adverts...arghhh. | Dec 19 01:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Manning pretrial: Prosecution witness links Manning to WikiLeaks, Assange https://t.co/r0W97R2d | Dec 19 01:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ Tomsky. You can't make a brew at home without waking the aged p's up? | Dec 19 01:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Defend Assange, Manning and justice. Join Friends of WikiLeaks https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Dec 19 01:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65666-AMD-Catalyst-11.12-For-Linux-Is-A-Mixed-Bag&p=242463#post242463 | Dec 19 01:59 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: DiabloD3 cubezzz MinceR schestowitz Ubuntu is not just some Linux distro now, oh really? http://liseifu.blogspot.com/2011/12/ubuntu-apparently-linux-apart-from.html | Dec 19 01:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Last declared US soldier leaves Iraq. Thanks, in part, to a WikiLeaks cable on civilian killings that nixed US immunity past dec 31, 2011. | Dec 19 02:01 | |
| DiabloD3 | sebsebseb: ubuntu doesnt actually exist. | Dec 19 02:01 |
| sebsebseb | DiabloD3: hmm? | Dec 19 02:01 |
| DiabloD3 | its something someone made up to scare kids | Dec 19 02:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Your profile... Games, yes. Bowie, yes. The other can be a waste of precious energy. | Dec 19 02:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @BernardKeane: Over 200 people responded so far to Kevin Rudd letter about Julian #Assange - have your say http://t.co/MLah8P6q | Dec 19 02:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 02:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The interests of even the elite in the global politician/business scam believe they have over egged the pudding. | Dec 19 02:14 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65737-X.Org-Server-1.11.3-Officially-Releasd&p=242465#post242465 | Dec 19 02:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65695-Qt-4.8-Draws-In-Platform-Abstraction-New-WebKit&p=242466#post242466 | Dec 19 02:17 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, according to Muslims and Jews, nocturnal emissions are a sin | Dec 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | and you have to take ritual baths and pray for forgiveness | Dec 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | the Catholics are slightly better | Dec 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's only a sin if you actually masturbated | Dec 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | but to get forgiveness from God you have to tell a man in a funny suit that isn't allowed to have sex all about your masturbation | Dec 19 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | -me | Dec 19 02:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning pre-trial hearing live blog day 3 | FDL http://t.co/C1JQ8SJp | Dec 19 02:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://yarpen.cz/rants/?p=43 | Dec 19 02:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Activist Dan Choi: U.S. is on trial, not Bradley Manning | RawStory http://t.co/jza0Sfka | Dec 19 02:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://razor-qt.org/ | Dec 19 02:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Václav Havel Czech progressive, missed. The opposite Lech Wałęsa who still thinks western !capitalism is a childhood fairy tale. | Dec 19 02:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @bkuhn #Apple manipulating #FreeBSD is not new news. I'll worry when !GPL'd projects start preferring LLVM. For now, it's just a poli ... | Dec 19 02:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Václav Havel Czech progressive, missed. The opposite Lech Wałęsa who still thinks western !capitalism is an obtainable childhood fairy tale. | Dec 19 02:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Here it is #religions... They are all a mash up. Can't see it? | Dec 19 02:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to 'Troublegum' album by Therapy. Its alright. | Dec 19 02:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "I can't remember my own name I think I've gone insane" | Dec 19 03:04 | |
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| beenz | Team Quassel! Frak Yeah! | Dec 19 03:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hellbelly | Dec 19 03:11 | |
| beenz | something that has native sasl support and doesn't suck at it | Dec 19 03:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I just checked out a new #Christmas song by @timlouisjazz "Snowflakes In Bloom" http://www.ur1.ca/6ttf3 ... nice one, Tim! | Dec 19 03:12 | |
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| beenz | yo sup peeps | Dec 19 03:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hmmm... uh, this is a quote, right? Your name is @satipera, not Hellbelly 8o | Dec 19 03:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Any chance @duolingo could add !lojban? | Dec 19 03:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Kim Jong Il dead [Yahoo news] http://is.gd/0Cbva8 | Dec 19 03:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I did, and couldn't find anyplace i can just listen to a single song from #Troublegum. No chance of me buying it, then, eh? !copyright #FAIL | Dec 19 03:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How SOPA will break DNS http://identi.ca/url/62777265 !eff | Dec 19 03:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How SOPA will break DNS - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.22 KB | Dec 19 03:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I respect your position. HTML5 problem gone. | Dec 19 03:51 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't use Quassel | Dec 19 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think it is garbage | Dec 19 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | an IRC client that lags and thrashes the disk | Dec 19 03:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Marilyn Manson in the British Parliament would at least be more use than some of them. Intelligent and independent. | Dec 19 04:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] a little vala hacking because I'm too lazy to ssh into my media machine and I like web interfaces | Dec 19 04:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] North Korea Says Supreme Leader Kim Jong Il Has Died http://identi.ca/url/62778058 | Dec 19 04:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 04:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Look it up! | Dec 19 04:11 | |
| *beenz has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) | Dec 19 04:11 | |
| *abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Dec 19 04:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You can't hear that but I wish you could. #cooperation | Dec 19 04:21 | |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Any Which Way by Scissor Sisters on Night Work [Amarok] | Dec 19 04:28 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 19 04:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Vint Cerf: SOPA means 'unprecedented censorship', will undermine security http://identi.ca/url/62780033 !eff | Dec 19 04:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 307 Temporary Redirect | Dec 19 04:41 |
| DiabloD3 | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/british-telecom-sues-google-over-android-and-almost-everything-else/1767 | Dec 19 04:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: British Telecom sues Google over Android (and almost everything else) | ZDNet .::. Size~: 103.16 KB | Dec 19 04:41 |
| DiabloD3 | anyone have this url without a florian mueller mention? | Dec 19 04:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I feel the need for cd's worth of mgmt. | Dec 19 04:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers Veerle zou je doorverwijzen naar w3schools tutorials denk ik. Gewoon o'reilly mss? | Dec 19 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken leugens. /cc @driesharnie | Dec 19 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck @maleadt @coreation @SjimiTweet @Tanfoglio_ ik heb nog redelijk wat les. Zal er zitten http://ur1. ... | Dec 19 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @driesharnie ais. :s Hoe lang nog offline? | Dec 19 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Some of us have the vision lets have the fun". | Dec 19 04:46 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65737-X.Org-Server-1.11.3-Officially-Releasd&p=242475#post242475 | Dec 19 04:47 |
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| *DaemonFC is listening to Sex And Violence by Scissor Sisters on Night Work [Amarok] | Dec 19 04:48 | |
| prurigro | http://bitcoinmedia.com/cjdns-the-new-network-better-than-tor-i2p-and | Dec 19 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: cjdns - The New Network. Better than Tor, i2p and Freenet - BitcoinMedia .::. Size~: 84.48 KB | Dec 19 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | Bitcoin supports terrorism | Dec 19 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | and drugs | Dec 19 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | and child raping Communists | Dec 19 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 19 04:57 |
| prurigro | it supports these things as a characteristic to its openness | Dec 19 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | and buttsecks | Dec 19 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | and buttsecks | Dec 19 04:57 |
| prurigro | just like freenet 'supports' child porn | Dec 19 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | and buttsecks | Dec 19 04:57 |
| prurigro | anyway | Dec 19 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 04:57 |
| prurigro | I know the guy who wrote that | Dec 19 04:57 |
| prurigro | and the content is separate from bitcoin | Dec 19 04:57 |
| prurigro | simply to the interest of its community | Dec 19 04:57 |
| prurigro | but cjdns gets around the child porn issue of freenet | Dec 19 04:58 |
| prurigro | while simply being better in a million ways | Dec 19 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | well, what kills me is the US government acts like US dollars aren't buying drugs, funding terrorism, and paying for kiddie porn | Dec 19 04:58 |
| DiabloD3 | namecoin > * | Dec 19 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | they act like this is something new that only bitcoin can do | Dec 19 04:59 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: touch! | Dec 19 04:59 |
| prurigro | touche* | Dec 19 04:59 |
| prurigro | it just happens to be something they'd like to find a dislike for, since it competes with their interests | Dec 19 04:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] it's like you would use a tape recorder (mp3 or ogg) to record a song, or videocam to record a movie (flash... though ogg theora's better :) | Dec 19 04:59 | |
| DaemonFC | what they really mean is that even illegal activity that makes the US dollar more desirable is to be protected | Dec 19 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | again you have one government agency at ends with another | Dec 19 04:59 |
| *prurigro gives voice to DiabloD3 | Dec 19 04:59 | |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: not to mention that the US literally funded the CIA with cocaine for like 15 years | Dec 19 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 19 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | cocaine and buttsecks | Dec 19 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk so they are both able to slip executable code past my firewall into my computer, right? | Dec 19 05:01 | |
| prurigro | lol, we can all use a little more buttsecks? | Dec 19 05:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk what was that skin thing you recommended so that i don't take a hatchet to gimp when I get frustrated? | Dec 19 05:02 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't approve of those socialist government-funded buttsecks promoters | Dec 19 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | but the capitalist ones are OK | Dec 19 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | as long as it's free market buttsecks | Dec 19 05:04 |
| prurigro | I think socialism and capitalism are buzzwords to take power away from the people | Dec 19 05:04 |
| prurigro | they divide us | Dec 19 05:04 |
| prurigro | a country needs different things depending on its current state | Dec 19 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | we need to build a bridge | Dec 19 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | a bridge of buttsecks | Dec 19 05:05 |
| prurigro | there shouldn't necessarily be packaged ideals we ascribe to | Dec 19 05:05 |
| prurigro | free health care is good | Dec 19 05:05 |
| prurigro | free health care when a country can't afford it is bad | Dec 19 05:05 |
| prurigro | for example | Dec 19 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | cut free mental health care | Dec 19 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | and promote buttsecks | Dec 19 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | it always puts me in a better mood and prozac just makes me sleep | Dec 19 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:06 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 05:06 |
| prurigro | yea, the fact that my friend with psychosis needs to pay for his doctor | Dec 19 05:06 |
| prurigro | yet people with physical conditions get theirs for free | Dec 19 05:06 |
| prurigro | in canada | Dec 19 05:06 |
| prurigro | has always confused me | Dec 19 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | because politicians figure everyone with a mental condition is faking it or a drug addict | Dec 19 05:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I'm trying to pretend its photoshop so i know how to do things. | Dec 19 05:07 | |
| DaemonFC | lost your job? | Dec 19 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | need unemployment benefits | Dec 19 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | you're a dirty no good drug addict | Dec 19 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | piss in the cup | Dec 19 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | PISS IN IT!!! | Dec 19 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | we'll destroy your dignity you leech! | Dec 19 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: I was on unemployment once | Dec 19 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | they make you tell them where you applied for jobs at | Dec 19 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | so I was going around applying at women's lingerie shops and gay bars and some shops selling sex toys | Dec 19 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | and putting those down, which....qualified | Dec 19 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | but it made the state social worker that they make you talk to eager to get rid of me every week | Dec 19 05:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I want to reduce pictures to have a series of rectangles for face of xmas card; 1st 3 scaled, now it will only let me scale the page. | Dec 19 05:11 | |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, lmao that's pretty funny | Dec 19 05:11 |
| prurigro | so he didn't like you much I take it? | Dec 19 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Dec 19 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | and he looked like Anthony Perkins | Dec 19 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | so I said "Why thank you Norman" at one point when he was pissing me off | Dec 19 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | "My name is not Norman....." | Dec 19 05:13 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 05:13 |
| prurigro | people don't like it when you repeatedly screw up their names do you | Dec 19 05:14 |
| prurigro | they* | Dec 19 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | I was referring to Norman Bates | Dec 19 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | from Psycho | Dec 19 05:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk um. do you mean get krita ... then i have to do something with gimp? unstable? argh. | Dec 19 05:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I go from completely respectful, polite, etc. to total shithead | Dec 19 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | depending on how much I think the person can fuck my life up | Dec 19 05:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] its okay, no support, i was just venting. that's what happens, it makes me think its okay and then the ground shifts. | Dec 19 05:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk ? are you saying gimp unstable is a different program than gimp? | Dec 19 05:19 | |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't eager to find the first job that came along | Dec 19 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | which is what the program tries to force you into | Dec 19 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | if you had a $30,000 a year job and the first job offer while you're on unemployment is part time McDonalds, then you have to take it | Dec 19 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | or you lose your unemployment | Dec 19 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | so the way around that is to mess up interviews | Dec 19 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | or apply at places you know won't hire you | Dec 19 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | so I ended up putting my resume up and biding my time | Dec 19 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | and applying for jobs I didn't want and doing things to make sure they didn't hire me | Dec 19 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | until something I was interested in came along | Dec 19 05:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk it is just so frustrating. I keep having to go back to gthumb to crop because I can't figure out how to make it work in gimp. | Dec 19 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk it isn't the single window, its that the tools seem to behave differently for no reason i can figure out. | Dec 19 05:22 | |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 05:23 |
| prurigro | I like riding the line | Dec 19 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | because who wants to scrub toilets for $5 an hour when you could wait a few weeks and be on salary somewhere | Dec 19 05:23 |
| prurigro | where they can't tell you you're not being disrespectful | Dec 19 05:23 |
| prurigro | but its clear to both of you that you are | Dec 19 05:23 |
| prurigro | if they start being dicks | Dec 19 05:23 |
| prurigro | of course | Dec 19 05:23 |
| prurigro | and yea, no kidding | Dec 19 05:24 |
| prurigro | mcdonalds pays 10.25/hour up here | Dec 19 05:24 |
| prurigro | and its still shit | Dec 19 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | at the time, minimum wage was $5.15 an hour | Dec 19 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | no thanks :) | Dec 19 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | give that to a teenager | Dec 19 05:24 |
| prurigro | lol, seriously | Dec 19 05:25 |
| prurigro | someone who needs to learn responsibility and get a token reward | Dec 19 05:25 |
| prurigro | is what minimum wage is for | Dec 19 05:25 |
| prurigro | the rest of us deserve to be above the poverty line if we're putting a hard day's work in | Dec 19 05:25 |
| prurigro | esp when unemployed pays more | Dec 19 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, a lot more | Dec 19 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:26 |
| prurigro | haha, you don't say | Dec 19 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | at the time I was drawing unemployment equal to roughly $12 an hour | Dec 19 05:27 |
| prurigro | shame instead of unemployed they don't have a poverty line coverage or something | Dec 19 05:27 |
| prurigro | wow | Dec 19 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | McDonalds wasn't worth getting out of bed for | Dec 19 05:27 |
| prurigro | that's the poverty line right there | Dec 19 05:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk What I don't get is why things work one way some times and not other times. DLing Krita now. | Dec 19 05:27 | |
| prurigro | who could honestly say "yes, I'd like to do shit work and smell like ass 5 days a week so I can live less comfortably" | Dec 19 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | nobody wants to do it | Dec 19 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | work like that is degrading | Dec 19 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | it pays next to nothing | Dec 19 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | works you like a dog | Dec 19 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | and constantly reminds you that if they don't like you, you're gone | Dec 19 05:29 |
| prurigro | haha, yea- that's no way to live | Dec 19 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | if I have to suck up to someone, it's not going to be for ~$200 a week | Dec 19 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:30 |
| prurigro | that's intrinsic to the problem surrounding the whole 'end of careers' as jobs become contracts more and more | Dec 19 05:30 |
| prurigro | knowing you'll have an income in 5 years means you'll be more willing to spend right now | Dec 19 05:30 |
| prurigro | keep the economy moving you know? | Dec 19 05:30 |
| prurigro | and lol | Dec 19 05:30 |
| prurigro | yea, screw sucking up to anyone, on that note | Dec 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | the first job I had, right out of high school.....$9.50 an hour | Dec 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | but the insurance was better than anything I've had since | Dec 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | the union managed to get a huge win on that | Dec 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | no premiums | Dec 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | $150 a year deductible | Dec 19 05:31 |
| prurigro | deductible? | Dec 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | and it paid 90% of pretty much anything | Dec 19 05:31 |
| prurigro | premium? | Dec 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, a deductible is how much you pay before they pay anything | Dec 19 05:32 |
| prurigro | oh, insurance | Dec 19 05:32 |
| prurigro | I missed that line haha | Dec 19 05:32 |
| prurigro | is that for health coverage? | Dec 19 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | a typical worker right now gets stuck with like a $1,000 deductible | Dec 19 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | and they make less than $15,000 a year | Dec 19 05:32 |
| prurigro | I saw a guy post a bill for a night in the hospital on reddit | Dec 19 05:32 |
| prurigro | a person from the states, of course | Dec 19 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | and that's if all they have is a high school eduction | Dec 19 05:32 |
| prurigro | let me link that... | Dec 19 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | so most of them don't bother to get insurance | Dec 19 05:33 |
| prurigro | http://i.imgur.com/COkrp.jpg | Dec 19 05:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 19 05:33 |
| prurigro | he lacked insurance, of course | Dec 19 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | what's the point if you're never going to meet the deductible and just keep paying on a policy that does nothing? | Dec 19 05:33 |
| prurigro | likely because of the chance that something like that ^^ happens | Dec 19 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | just put it all under the RAPE column | Dec 19 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | and take my house and car | Dec 19 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | we both know where this is going | Dec 19 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:34 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 05:34 |
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| prurigro | and the return of serf-dom begins! | Dec 19 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | when most people get a bill like that, the first thing they do is talk to a bankruptcy lawyer | Dec 19 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't even attempt to pay any of it | Dec 19 05:37 |
| prurigro | maybe instead of "obama care" | Dec 19 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'd just immediately file bankruptcy and let a judge decide what they were going to get and when | Dec 19 05:37 |
| prurigro | a better setup would be to have bills that would send people into bankruptcy knocked down to amounts they can reasonably pay | Dec 19 05:37 |
| prurigro | like 5% of a year's wage | Dec 19 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | well, Indiana has a bad state insurance program for the poor | Dec 19 05:38 |
| prurigro | people would learn to keep a 5% retainer incase they get sick | Dec 19 05:38 |
| prurigro | or something | Dec 19 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | it beats nothing, but it's not much | Dec 19 05:38 |
| prurigro | hmm | Dec 19 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | they funded it out of tobacco tax increases | Dec 19 05:38 |
| prurigro | which state is mitt romney in charge of? | Dec 19 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | it basically helps you pay for doctor visits and such | Dec 19 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | if you go to the hospital, you're still fucked | Dec 19 05:39 |
| prurigro | I hear he setup the best health care in the US or something? | Dec 19 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | no, they didn't | Dec 19 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | what that managed to do was triple the health insurance premiums in Massachusetts | Dec 19 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | that state also has electricity that costs five times more than Indiana's | Dec 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | because of "carbon tax" | Dec 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | orrr, I'll fix that | Dec 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | TAX | Dec 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | that is a state that is more fucked up than California | Dec 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | the cost of living is very high there | Dec 19 05:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra you better have that shit working by Tuesday night or I'll be pissed off | Dec 19 05:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | you see almost nobody that lives on Social Security or anything there | Dec 19 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | because what SSI retirement pays you in a month wouldn't last a week in Massachusetts | Dec 19 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | all Romney did was make it more impossible for people of modest means to live in that state | Dec 19 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | send you like $1,000 heating bills and cause your health insurance rates to go from $150 a month to $400 | Dec 19 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | "Hmmm, where is everyone going?" | Dec 19 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 19 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | liberals | Dec 19 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | what those tax policies do is drive out all the people who aren't super rich | Dec 19 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | so that the super rich can have the place all to themselves | Dec 19 05:44 |
| prurigro | oh hmm | Dec 19 05:48 |
| prurigro | isn't he a republican? | Dec 19 05:48 |
| prurigro | how did he end up doing that? | Dec 19 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | that state gives their governor a line item veto | Dec 19 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | so Romney tried to veto all the parts that would provide free or low cost care to the poor people that really needed it | Dec 19 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | but the legislature overruled his veto with a supermajority | Dec 19 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | and the entire thing became law anyway | Dec 19 05:50 |
| prurigro | oh hm | Dec 19 05:51 |
| prurigro | so he sounds good on paper | Dec 19 05:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] N Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies http://goo.gl/m8ssu | Dec 19 05:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - N Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies .::. Size~: 69.96 KB | Dec 19 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana does not give the governor a line item veto | Dec 19 05:51 |
| prurigro | the long lost moderate republican | Dec 19 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | he can sign the entire bill into law | Dec 19 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | or veto the entire bill | Dec 19 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | but Indiana has an unusual veto override | Dec 19 05:52 |
| prurigro | wait | Dec 19 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | it only takes a simple majority | Dec 19 05:52 |
| prurigro | which state is romney? | Dec 19 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | so if the governor vetoes something, he almost always gets overruled in Indiana | Dec 19 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | because it took a majority vote to get to him in the first place | Dec 19 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | Romney was Massachusetts | Dec 19 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, the governor really has no power to approve or disapprove of laws | Dec 19 05:53 |
| prurigro | ahh kk, interesting, so he's only good because he couldn't make it bad | Dec 19 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | because it only takes a majority to overrule him | Dec 19 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | all he can do is object to it and force a new vote | Dec 19 05:54 |
| prurigro | what do you think of that then, in comparison? | Dec 19 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | I think that their system is bad and modeling the federal legislation on it is going to make a catastrophe | Dec 19 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | the only way to improve the healthcare system in the US, is the plan that some of the progressive Democrats put forth which never got a vote in the full House | Dec 19 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | ban for profit insurance | Dec 19 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | expand Medicare to cover everyone | Dec 19 05:55 |
| prurigro | oh yea | Dec 19 05:56 |
| prurigro | the original health care plan actually seemed reasonable didn't it | Dec 19 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you mean the one where the administrative overhead is only 1% because nobody gets huge bonuises for fucking patients over and denying care? | Dec 19 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | (Medicare) | Dec 19 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | vs. the for profits that only spend 80 cents of every premium dollar on care | Dec 19 05:57 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | which you are now required by law to buy insurance from | Dec 19 05:57 |
| prurigro | yea, the one more like canada | Dec 19 05:57 |
| prurigro | rather than car insurance | Dec 19 05:57 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | lets put all our money in a big pot | Dec 19 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | let these parasites mooch off of it | Dec 19 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | and hope we never get sick and depend on them to pay anything! | Dec 19 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | how could this get better? | Dec 19 05:58 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | let's make it MANDATORY! | Dec 19 05:58 |
| prurigro | yea | Dec 19 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:58 |
| prurigro | dear lord | Dec 19 05:58 |
| prurigro | not saying anything pro left or right, but in this particular situation, I thought it was ridiculous how the republicans managed to take a decent proposal | Dec 19 05:59 |
| prurigro | destroy it | Dec 19 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | and then vote against it | Dec 19 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 05:59 |
| prurigro | and then use their propaganda network to complain about how terrible the democrats were for it | Dec 19 05:59 |
| prurigro | haha that too | Dec 19 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | oh it's so horrible (after our amendments) | Dec 19 05:59 |
| prurigro | it was all a dog and pony show to get more votes this election | Dec 19 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | we can't vote for this! | Dec 19 05:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "Chicks HATE other chicks named Jessica" | Dec 19 05:59 | |
| DaemonFC | (call it Obamacare!) | Dec 19 05:59 |
| prurigro | and you could see them spitting out prediscussed phrases on TV after the fact too | Dec 19 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | talking points!!! | Dec 19 06:00 |
| prurigro | thanks! | Dec 19 06:00 |
| prurigro | I was killing myself trying to remember | Dec 19 06:00 |
| prurigro | :) | Dec 19 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | and then on Fox News, you just have crazy people shouting at the wall while they draw up alien conspiracies with dry erase markers | Dec 19 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 19 06:01 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | "They're coming to suck out your brains and take you to death camps!!!!" | Dec 19 06:01 |
| prurigro | I was driving home from an outing for my stepdad's bday tonight | Dec 19 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | "HIDE THE CHILDREN!!!!" | Dec 19 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | "The CULLING is COMING!!!!" | Dec 19 06:01 |
| prurigro | and passed through the town of "Glen Becker" | Dec 19 06:02 |
| prurigro | "AND REMEMBER TO INVEST IN MY GOLD COINS! GOLD!" | Dec 19 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | not just any gold | Dec 19 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | the gold exchange that sponsors Glenn Beck | Dec 19 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | you don't want that other gold | Dec 19 06:02 |
| prurigro | haha yea | Dec 19 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | that's the gold THEY want you to buy | Dec 19 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 06:02 |
| prurigro | the one that's worth like 40% of what's being paid for it | Dec 19 06:02 |
| prurigro | but they're 'coins!' | Dec 19 06:03 |
| prurigro | I'm guessing that's what got him removed from FOX | Dec 19 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | gold is gold | Dec 19 06:03 |
| prurigro | looming scandal right there | Dec 19 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | unless the coin is like so old and rare that it is a piece of history | Dec 19 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | then the coin is only worth the amount of gold that it has in it | Dec 19 06:03 |
| prurigro | pretty much | Dec 19 06:04 |
| prurigro | which is also why they stopped making pennies out of copper haha | Dec 19 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, quarters used to have silver in them | Dec 19 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | now they're a copper slug coated in nickel | Dec 19 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=543b2331d7b45a29ccd3530daa2389e87e65d89b | Dec 19 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library .::. Size~: 118.51 KB | Dec 19 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Evergreen: MOSTLY (done but doesn't work for an unknown reason). | Dec 19 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Dec 19 06:05 |
| prurigro | evergreen being? | Dec 19 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | and it's going to take an update to the kernel command stream checker to let this work | Dec 19 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | what would have been called r800 | Dec 19 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | the RadeonHD 5000 series | Dec 19 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | and a few lower end 6000 series cards are also evergreen-based | Dec 19 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | that was discovered by mistake | Dec 19 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | when the kernel mode setting code for Evergreen happened to work on some lower end 6000s | Dec 19 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | before AMD landed any official support for the 6000 series | Dec 19 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | there's not a huge difference between the 5000 and 6000 | Dec 19 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | but the 7000s need a new Gallium3d driver | Dec 19 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | r600g won't work | Dec 19 06:08 |
| prurigro | oh cool | Dec 19 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | so AMD is planning to strip down r600g to whatever code still applies to the new 7000 series | Dec 19 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | and use it as a starting point for a new driver | Dec 19 06:09 |
| prurigro | wait tho, is this specific to radeon? or is this graphics in general + support for radeon? | Dec 19 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's a kernel side and a userspace side | Dec 19 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's possible to get mode setting with no accelerated anything | Dec 19 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's where Intel's Poulsbo support is at with open source | Dec 19 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | the userspace side is the windowing system stuff called winsys | Dec 19 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | and the accelerated 2d and 3d drivers | Dec 19 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | which are part of the Mesa/Gallium3d framework | Dec 19 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | in this system, 2d is really just a special case of 3d | Dec 19 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | all 2d acceleration is ran on the card's 3d engine | Dec 19 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | libdrm is a bridge to the kernel | Dec 19 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | the kernel is ultimately responsible for setting the video mode and display resolution | Dec 19 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | and for managing the card memory | Dec 19 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | other than that, it's just a pass through, which takes commands from userspace, checks them for malicious or stupid operations | Dec 19 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | and then if it likes what it sees, it passes it to the hardware | Dec 19 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | the command stream checking has a little bit of overhead, but it helps make sure that the GPU isn't being told to help run malware or do something insane that will panic the system | Dec 19 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | when I say a little, I mean like 2-3% | Dec 19 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's worth the cost | Dec 19 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise as soon as you try using something like WebGL, a malicious web page can launch a denial of service attack on your GPU | Dec 19 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | or even just an innocent programming error can bring the system down | Dec 19 06:15 |
| prurigro | hmm, so other cards might start seeing support soon too | Dec 19 06:15 |
| prurigro | and nice | Dec 19 06:15 |
| prurigro | that'll be good with chrome's new setup too | Dec 19 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | right, there is an extensive amount of security hardening | Dec 19 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | both in Mesa and in the Linux kernel itself | Dec 19 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | so I have no doubt that the open source drivers are much more secure than the nonfree drivers are | Dec 19 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | the nonfree AMD Radeon driver, Catalyst has a command stream checker of its own | Dec 19 06:17 |
| prurigro | that's always the way it is no? | Dec 19 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia cards do it in the hardware | Dec 19 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | so Nouveau didn't have to write a command stream checker for the kernel | Dec 19 06:18 |
| prurigro | oh really | Dec 19 06:18 |
| prurigro | that's cool | Dec 19 06:18 |
| prurigro | hardware > software | Dec 19 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's implementation is faster | Dec 19 06:18 |
| prurigro | for speed | Dec 19 06:18 |
| prurigro | at least | Dec 19 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | but it means that it can't be fixed if there's a bug | Dec 19 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | with a Radeon, it's as simple as updating the kernel | Dec 19 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | or installing a new Catalyst version if you use that | Dec 19 06:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Best analogy of #SOPA http://ur1.ca/6tygm | Dec 19 06:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | Gallium3d is a really impressive piece of work | Dec 19 06:20 |
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| DaemonFC | Apple's X maintainer is screwing around with the 3dfx driver | Dec 19 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | Can't they just kill it without torturing it first? | Dec 19 06:33 |
| prurigro | they still do X? I thought it was killed? | Dec 19 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | no, they have an X server | Dec 19 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's just not controlling the display | Dec 19 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: Apple is maintaining the stable X server branches | Dec 19 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 06:35 |
| prurigro | I remember they had one | Dec 19 06:35 |
| prurigro | but then I heard it was being removed | Dec 19 06:35 |
| prurigro | like, after tiger I think? | Dec 19 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | no | Dec 19 06:35 |
| prurigro | musta heard wrong | Dec 19 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | Tiger is when it became installed by default | Dec 19 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | actually | Dec 19 06:36 |
| prurigro | I guess wine still works | Dec 19 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 06:36 |
| prurigro | sweet | Dec 19 06:36 |
| prurigro | x opened up a lot of FOSS doors | Dec 19 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of companies that work on X.org | Dec 19 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | Apple is using their own OpenGL implementation | Dec 19 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | and their own in-house display drivers | Dec 19 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | written with documentation from the card vendors | Dec 19 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | the situation on Linux is actually better | Dec 19 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | Apple's fails more OpenGL conformance tests than Mesa does | Dec 19 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | and lies about the level of OpenGL it truly supports | Dec 19 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | Apple says it supports OpenGL 3.2 | Dec 19 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | but if you get to digging, you'll find missing chunks | Dec 19 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | and cases where it returns incorrect results | Dec 19 06:41 |
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| scientes | DaemonFC, how good is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162091 | Dec 19 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/53/snapshot1hl.png | Dec 19 07:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newegg.com - Galaxy 56NGH6DH4TTX MDT GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card .::. Size~: 140.62 KB | Dec 19 07:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 19 07:00 |
| scientes | also: nVidia vs AMD/ATI | Dec 19 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | scientes: If you're planning to use their blob? | Dec 19 07:00 |
| scientes | on linux | Dec 19 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | it might be alright | Dec 19 07:00 |
| scientes | i like the 4 DVI | Dec 19 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to use Nouveau it's totally unsupported | Dec 19 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | at least for right now | Dec 19 07:01 |
| scientes | why? | Dec 19 07:01 |
| scientes | why that card | Dec 19 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's fairly new | Dec 19 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia doesn't support Nouveau | Dec 19 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | or release programming documentation | Dec 19 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | or code | Dec 19 07:01 |
| scientes | nouveau has worked for me in the past | Dec 19 07:02 |
| scientes | of course it is not for gaming | Dec 19 07:02 |
| scientes | (yet) | Dec 19 07:02 |
| scientes | will ati be bettter, eventually (or now) | Dec 19 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | radeon is better than Nouveau | Dec 19 07:02 |
| scientes | so i should go ati | Dec 19 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | AMD has released thousands of pages of programming documentation | Dec 19 07:03 |
| scientes | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129158 | Dec 19 07:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newegg.com - VisionTek 900307 Radeon HD 4670 X2 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card .::. Size~: 166.96 KB | Dec 19 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | lots of code | Dec 19 07:03 |
| scientes | but reviews saw it is really lous cause the fan scaling doesn't work | Dec 19 07:04 |
| scientes | also more expensive | Dec 19 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | out of stock | Dec 19 07:04 |
| scientes | and that | Dec 19 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | you'd be better off with the 6670 | Dec 19 07:04 |
| scientes | and its 2 graphics cards | Dec 19 07:04 |
| scientes | just on one board | Dec 19 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | get yourself a 6670 with a GB of GDDR5 | Dec 19 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | grand total should be $100-$120 | Dec 19 07:04 |
| scientes | 4 displays? | Dec 19 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Dec 19 07:05 |
| scientes | or 3? | Dec 19 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | I've never looked for one with support for that many | Dec 19 07:05 |
| scientes | thats what I am looking for | Dec 19 07:05 |
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| DaemonFC | I know that the open source driver supports up to 6 displays | Dec 19 07:05 |
| scientes | the displayports ones arnt bad, but the lcds that support that suck | Dec 19 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | but you only get that on Firepro cards I think | Dec 19 07:05 |
| scientes | displayport cards | Dec 19 07:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Dec 19 07:06 | |
| scientes | and the ones with 3 are 2xdvi 1xdisplayport | Dec 19 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | open source radeon has displayport code | Dec 19 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | and it's stable | Dec 19 07:06 |
| scientes | but AFAICS displayport seems to suck | Dec 19 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | I use DVI | Dec 19 07:06 |
| scientes | as it isn't supported by displays that are reasonable price | Dec 19 07:06 |
| scientes | and DVI is ___amazing__ | Dec 19 07:07 |
| scientes | so why change so fast | Dec 19 07:07 |
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| scientes | the nvidia blog does freeze up your computer | Dec 19 07:07 |
| scientes | *blob | Dec 19 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | it can | Dec 19 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst does that too sometimes | Dec 19 07:08 |
| scientes | you mean ati blob | Dec 19 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 19 07:09 |
| scientes | how does ati blob compare to ati free? | Dec 19 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | the blob has faster 3d | Dec 19 07:09 |
| scientes | can you play wine games on ati free? | Dec 19 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | and OpenGL 4.2 | Dec 19 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | but it is very unstable | Dec 19 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | within reason, sure | Dec 19 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa supports OpenGL 2.1 | Dec 19 07:09 |
| scientes | I'll probably go blob then, in the end | Dec 19 07:10 |
| scientes | cause i want to play games | Dec 19 07:10 |
| scientes | if intel had a open source graphics that could do that I would buy that | Dec 19 07:10 |
| scientes | but that doesn't exist | Dec 19 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | if you use Catalyst, then you should disable automatic monitor shutoff | Dec 19 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | because it seems to not like to wake the monitor up | Dec 19 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 07:10 |
| scientes | oh geeze that is horrible | Dec 19 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | and if you use it with X.org Server 1.11, then Xv will cause the server to crash | Dec 19 07:11 |
| scientes | i definitely would prefer free, even if just for the mode setting, and no crashes----the practical | Dec 19 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't bother with the blob | Dec 19 07:11 |
| scientes | the fact that it makes everything better, on the free for freedom realm is just an added plus | Dec 19 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | the last time I used it was long enough to get sick of Oblivion again | Dec 19 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Dec 19 07:12 |
| scientes | but the crashing is definitety a turn-off | Dec 19 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst has no OpenGL ES support | Dec 19 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa does | Dec 19 07:12 |
| scientes | although now it is only the graphics system | Dec 19 07:13 |
| scientes | so if you run stuff from your init system it will stay going | Dec 19 07:13 |
| scientes | or kvm, etc | Dec 19 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst doesn't support Nvidia vdpau obviously | Dec 19 07:13 |
| scientes | no shit | Dec 19 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa git builds of r600g do | Dec 19 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | so I've been using vdpau on my radeon | Dec 19 07:13 |
| scientes | how many monitors you use at once? | Dec 19 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | just one | Dec 19 07:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] For those of you who have nvidia boards and having trouble installing Fedora 16 - http://ur1.ca/6tzw7 | Dec 19 07:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora 16 nVidia Drivers Install Guide (disable nouveau driver) .::. Size~: 611.96 KB | Dec 19 07:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My ears are lasting much better than my eyes. | Dec 19 07:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] does Kim Cardasian watch #DS9? what does she think of the race of beings named after her? lol #StarTrek | Dec 19 07:17 | |
| scientes | i am definitely not a fan of non-free drivers | Dec 19 07:20 |
| scientes | its like installing a virus | Dec 19 07:20 |
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| DaemonFC | nah | Dec 19 07:21 |
| DiabloD3 | ....... | Dec 19 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | viruses are generally less destructive | Dec 19 07:21 |
| DiabloD3 | remind me to hit thistleweb with a bat. | Dec 19 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | reminds me of why Windows isn't a virus | Dec 19 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | viruses are usually efficient and well written and complete their assigned tasks | Dec 19 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | the last time I looked, Catalyst was about 10 times the size of all the card-specific open source radeon code | Dec 19 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | and supported about half as many cards | Dec 19 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | AMD hasn't supported the pre-HD radeons in a LONG time | Dec 19 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | the open source drivers support them all | Dec 19 07:27 |
| scientes | free software is obviously superior | Dec 19 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst is huge and full of bugs | Dec 19 07:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, SMRT's official twitter account has office hours? http://ur1.ca/6u0bw #fb | Dec 19 07:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'SMRT clueless in this new media age' - Yahoo! .::. Size~: 290.5 KB | Dec 19 07:31 |
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| schestowitz | Kim Sung Ill? | Dec 19 07:35 |
| schestowitz | No. Kim Sung dead. | Dec 19 07:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Thanks to work, I need the #safari browser installed. curses. | Dec 19 07:36 | |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: everyone on earth has already made this joke, and its kim JUNG ill | Dec 19 07:36 |
| prurigro | lmao | Dec 19 07:36 |
| prurigro | weooo | Dec 19 07:36 |
| DiabloD3 | transliterate your best korean right damnit | Dec 19 07:36 |
| prurigro | DiabloD3, apparently I've been living in a box | Dec 19 07:36 |
| prurigro | and had not heard that joke | Dec 19 07:36 |
| DiabloD3 | prurigro: you know hes dead, right? | Dec 19 07:37 |
| prurigro | that I knew yea haha | Dec 19 07:37 |
| DiabloD3 | good. | Dec 19 07:37 |
| prurigro | the news is less apt on sharing jokes though | Dec 19 07:37 |
| DiabloD3 | the joke should have already occurred to you by now | Dec 19 07:37 |
| prurigro | well I hadn't given it much thought to be honest | Dec 19 07:37 |
| prurigro | was busy setting up postfix when I heard about it | Dec 19 07:38 |
| prurigro | what a monster that is | Dec 19 07:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] !mozilla's own !firefox themes are cc-by-nc !disturbing | Dec 19 07:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More votes http://ur1.ca/6u0j3 | Dec 19 07:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 19 07:39 |
| schestowitz | one month Steve Jobs | Dec 19 07:39 |
| schestowitz | and before xmas Kim | Dec 19 07:40 |
| schestowitz | tyrants had a bad year | Dec 19 07:40 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 07:40 |
| prurigro | steve jobs was a bit ocd, but I think he helped as much as he hurt | Dec 19 07:40 |
| prurigro | unlike Kim Jung | Dec 19 07:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #irritant that is Safari, running on that abomination that is Windows in a virtual machine. There! everybody's [ almost ] happy | Dec 19 07:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good morning Roy. | Dec 19 07:41 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/87296349 | Dec 19 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 07:40:38 UTC - Identi.ca: Good morning Roy. | Dec 19 07:43 |
| schestowitz | Kim Bo Slicer | Dec 19 07:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1064570 | Dec 19 07:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 07:44 |
| DiabloD3 | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3368539 | Dec 19 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: I wish companies purporting to publish articles by legitimate journalists would ... | Hacker News .::. Size~: 4.74 KB | Dec 19 07:46 |
| DiabloD3 | :3 | Dec 19 07:46 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: ^ | Dec 19 07:46 |
| prurigro | TechrightsBot is sounding suspiciously like HAL | Dec 19 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | HAPPY ENDING | Dec 19 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | HAPPY ENDING!!! | Dec 19 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 19 07:47 |
| schestowitz | It's still dark here | Dec 19 07:50 |
| schestowitz | hate it | Dec 19 07:50 |
| scientes | <3's San Fran | Dec 19 07:50 |
| schestowitz | friend woke me up by phoning... so many people start working while it's dark | Dec 19 07:50 |
| scientes | oh yeah 8AM at UTC | Dec 19 07:51 |
| scientes | or is it 7 | Dec 19 07:51 |
| scientes | 8 | Dec 19 07:51 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, =D | Dec 19 07:55 |
| scientes | prurigro, lol HAl | Dec 19 07:56 |
| scientes | you mean the MS troll? | Dec 19 07:57 |
| scientes | /shill? | Dec 19 07:57 |
| prurigro | is that who satipera is? | Dec 19 07:57 |
| *prurigro gives voice to scientes | Dec 19 07:58 | |
| scientes | satipera? | Dec 19 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Bill Gates Front Group Further Criticised http://ur1.ca/6u147 #billgates #education #alec | Dec 19 07:59 | |
| prurigro | the post the bot was repeating? | Dec 19 08:00 |
| prurigro | or do you mean HAL is the shill? haha | Dec 19 08:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Dec 19 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | the post the bot was repeating? | Dec 19 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | or do you mean HAL is the shill? haha | Dec 19 08:01 |
| prurigro | ummmm | Dec 19 08:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is a trade off.. life hurts & music is a salve. | Dec 19 08:02 | |
| prurigro | HAL?.. | Dec 19 08:02 |
| schestowitz | weird | Dec 19 08:04 |
| scientes | yes, there was a microsoft shill on wikipedia about 2 years ago whos name was HAl | Dec 19 08:04 |
| prurigro | oh get out | Dec 19 08:04 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... something is hammering on the server | Dec 19 08:04 |
| scientes | and after months of effort | Dec 19 08:04 |
| prurigro | I actually know a Hal who works with a lot of microsoft products | Dec 19 08:04 |
| schestowitz | which the bots are mostly on | Dec 19 08:04 |
| scientes | he finially got kicked | Dec 19 08:04 |
| prurigro | but I don't think he likes them that much haha | Dec 19 08:04 |
| scientes | there is alot of coverage in techrights on this | Dec 19 08:04 |
| prurigro | though how many Hals are there... | Dec 19 08:04 |
| prurigro | word, suppose if I did some digging eh? | Dec 19 08:05 |
| scientes | this is when the edit wars on OOXML were happening | Dec 19 08:05 |
| scientes | that ungodly file format that no program actually supports | Dec 19 08:05 |
| prurigro | oh word | Dec 19 08:05 |
| scientes | _NO_ program supports | Dec 19 08:06 |
| prurigro | last time microsoft really had a hate attack on FOSS ideals if I recall | Dec 19 08:06 |
| prurigro | or wait | Dec 19 08:06 |
| prurigro | was that mixed in with the open document standards? | Dec 19 08:06 |
| scientes | of course, its their sacred cow of a product | Dec 19 08:06 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 08:06 |
| prurigro | their office suite is great | Dec 19 08:06 |
| scientes | How is a computer like an air conditionier | Dec 19 08:06 |
| scientes | ? | Dec 19 08:06 |
| prurigro | how? | Dec 19 08:07 |
| scientes | It becomes useless if you open Windows. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA | Dec 19 08:07 |
| prurigro | baboomching | Dec 19 08:07 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 08:07 |
| prurigro | my latest box is only like ~4 years old | Dec 19 08:07 |
| prurigro | and hasn't tasted windows yet | Dec 19 08:07 |
| prurigro | (likely never will) | Dec 19 08:07 |
| scientes | it still has a non-free BIOS | Dec 19 08:07 |
| prurigro | but it does slow down quite a bit when I VM it | Dec 19 08:07 |
| prurigro | which? | Dec 19 08:08 |
| scientes | http://coreboot.org/ | Dec 19 08:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: coreboot .::. Size~: 24.3 KB | Dec 19 08:08 |
| *schestowitz gives apache a kick in the pants | Dec 19 08:08 | |
| scientes | we have to defeat uEFI secure-boot | Dec 19 08:08 |
| prurigro | I fully agree-- even uEFI sucks on its own, on that note | Dec 19 08:09 |
| prurigro | but jpw are you relating this to 'it still has a non-free BIOS' | Dec 19 08:09 |
| prurigro | how* | Dec 19 08:10 |
| prurigro | ? | Dec 19 08:10 |
| scientes | in terms of having a omputer with only free software | Dec 19 08:11 |
| prurigro | oh | Dec 19 08:11 |
| prurigro | I wasn't claiming that haha | Dec 19 08:11 |
| prurigro | I also use adobe reader, nvidia's binary blob and virtualbox's nonfree components | Dec 19 08:12 |
| prurigro | :) | Dec 19 08:12 |
| prurigro | not to mention grey areas like ROMs and VMs (ROMs) | Dec 19 08:12 |
| scientes | virtualbox, yucj | Dec 19 08:12 |
| prurigro | and you'd suggest? | Dec 19 08:12 |
| scientes | and I have never neaded adobe reader | Dec 19 08:12 |
| prurigro | I use it for a single feature | Dec 19 08:12 |
| scientes | its so friggen bloated, i would never install it for someone on windows either | Dec 19 08:13 |
| scientes | I have had SOOO many people who complain about it on windows | Dec 19 08:13 |
| prurigro | the ability to recursively search directories of pdfs for terms | Dec 19 08:13 |
| prurigro | virtualbox? | Dec 19 08:13 |
| prurigro | or adobe reader? | Dec 19 08:13 |
| scientes | you install a free, non-bloated pdf reader, and they praise you | Dec 19 08:13 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 08:13 |
| prurigro | those I use for everything else | Dec 19 08:13 |
| scientes | KVM/virt-manager is way better | Dec 19 08:13 |
| scientes | prurigro, why don't you add that feature to evince? | Dec 19 08:14 |
| prurigro | find me an equivalent to find . -name "*.pdf" -exec grep -H '{}' term \; | Dec 19 08:14 |
| scientes | I said _ADD_ | Dec 19 08:14 |
| prurigro | and I'll uninstall adobe reader forever | Dec 19 08:14 |
| scientes | wouldn't be too difficult to add that feature | Dec 19 08:15 |
| prurigro | oh | Dec 19 08:15 |
| prurigro | true | Dec 19 08:15 |
| scientes | so, what about virt-manager | Dec 19 08:15 |
| prurigro | I suppose I have enough projects on the run | Dec 19 08:15 |
| prurigro | these days | Dec 19 08:15 |
| scientes | kvm really is the prime virt platform for linux | Dec 19 08:16 |
| prurigro | and as far as kvm goes-- how do you find it these days for accelerated desktops and nice bridged adapters? | Dec 19 08:16 |
| prurigro | for linux guests | Dec 19 08:16 |
| scientes | ahh, bridged, yeah that is a PITA | Dec 19 08:16 |
| prurigro | err | Dec 19 08:16 |
| prurigro | windows guests* | Dec 19 08:16 |
| prurigro | yea, was last time I tried too | Dec 19 08:17 |
| scientes | i guess virtualibox is aimed at desktop in way that kvm just isn't | Dec 19 08:17 |
| prurigro | not that I'm against a bit of work | Dec 19 08:17 |
| prurigro | but if I can't get acceleration going | Dec 19 08:17 |
| scientes | but virt-manager should be able to catch up | Dec 19 08:17 |
| prurigro | then I can't do the work work I need to do | Dec 19 08:17 |
| scientes | its red hat's big thing | Dec 19 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | lol, adobe reader | Dec 19 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Dec 19 08:17 |
| prurigro | yea, I installed fedora for that reason | Dec 19 08:17 |
| scientes | ^^^ | Dec 19 08:17 |
| scientes | it works in ubuntu | Dec 19 08:18 |
| scientes | but not well | Dec 19 08:18 |
| scientes | the permissions model on it is all fed up for a long time | Dec 19 08:18 |
| scientes | you have to run as root | Dec 19 08:18 |
| scientes | *+debian | Dec 19 08:18 |
| prurigro | scientes, well I was installing a desktop I wanted my step dad to continue using haha | Dec 19 08:18 |
| scientes | wine wine wine | Dec 19 08:19 |
| prurigro | not one I'd need to turn around and install windows for him in a month for | Dec 19 08:19 |
| prurigro | what about wine? | Dec 19 08:19 |
| scientes | wine is awesome | Dec 19 08:19 |
| prurigro | haha, its awesome technically | Dec 19 08:19 |
| prurigro | I never have a use for it though | Dec 19 08:19 |
| scientes | what windows stuff is the problem? | Dec 19 08:19 |
| prurigro | for my stepdad or for me? | Dec 19 08:19 |
| scientes | i use it _ALL_ the friggen time | Dec 19 08:19 |
| scientes | there are gazillions of domain-specific windows programs that work 100% in wine | Dec 19 08:20 |
| prurigro | there are | Dec 19 08:20 |
| scientes | and there is no way games will ever work virtualized | Dec 19 08:20 |
| scientes | unless you can IOMMU them a video-card, which would be awesome BTW | Dec 19 08:20 |
| prurigro | my stepdad (via fedora, compliments of me) is running VMs with windows for cognos enterprise server on a very specifically setup environment | Dec 19 08:20 |
| scientes | I'd rather not install Windows | Dec 19 08:20 |
| scientes | _ever_ _again_ | Dec 19 08:21 |
| prurigro | and I use VMs for visual studio pro + mssql + ms access + iis | Dec 19 08:22 |
| prurigro | (work stuff) | Dec 19 08:22 |
| prurigro | virtualbox does have 3d acceleration on that note | Dec 19 08:22 |
| scientes | wine is better than that | Dec 19 08:22 |
| prurigro | it is | Dec 19 08:22 |
| scientes | and always will be | Dec 19 08:22 |
| prurigro | running native is always better than running in a VM | Dec 19 08:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free Software/GPL FUD Arrives From Microsoft Infiltrators http://ur1.ca/6u1pi #fud #gpl #msft | Dec 19 08:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free Software/GPL FUD Arrives From Microsoft Infiltrators | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.43 KB | Dec 19 08:23 |
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| scientes | and IT IS NOT WINDOWS | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | only thing VMs'll give you is the flaws in windows that let certain hacked games run when they can't in linux | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | and of course not | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | who said it was? | Dec 19 08:23 |
| scientes | you can write FREE SOFTWARE ON WINE | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | you can | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | notepad++ | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | is a good example | Dec 19 08:23 |
| scientes | its used for alot of ported projects seamlessly and in a reasonable way | Dec 19 08:23 |
| prurigro | ahh winelib | Dec 19 08:24 |
| prurigro | I remember when google first released google earth with that | Dec 19 08:24 |
| prurigro | or was it picasa that came first? | Dec 19 08:24 |
| scientes | and WINE runs on OSX | Dec 19 08:25 |
| prurigro | though without hardware acceleration | Dec 19 08:25 |
| prurigro | and starcraft ran pretty well from the start | Dec 19 08:27 |
| prurigro | :) | Dec 19 08:27 |
| scientes | although its only 640x480 | Dec 19 08:27 |
| prurigro | I think its more that it had to work on osx as well, so it worked via ogl properly and didn't use any windows specific hacks | Dec 19 08:28 |
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| scientes | all blizzard software works without hitch on wine | Dec 19 08:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My #Debian box is being a real POS today and yesterday. Would get nowhere while updating, now stuck in a deadlock. Time wasted. | Dec 19 08:29 | |
| prurigro | yup | Dec 19 08:30 |
| scientes | i don't know how vivendi will effect that long-term | Dec 19 08:30 |
| prurigro | yea, it seems like they'd be moving away from that, potentially | Dec 19 08:30 |
| prurigro | but then everything else is going towards being cross platform | Dec 19 08:30 |
| prurigro | so maybe they'll realize the mistake they'd be making | Dec 19 08:31 |
| scientes | how? | Dec 19 08:31 |
| scientes | i mean HTML5, but that is not video games | Dec 19 08:31 |
| scientes | DirectX doesn't seem to be losing traction | Dec 19 08:31 |
| schestowitz | That is so sweet! http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/archives/2011/12/17/my-webmaster/ | Dec 19 08:31 |
| prurigro | directx has never been in that direction | Dec 19 08:31 |
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| scientes | but with OSX getting bigger user shares, that will give more traction to OpenGL | Dec 19 08:31 |
| prurigro | but osx is gaining popularity along with ios and android | Dec 19 08:31 |
| scientes | iOS and Android is a differn't market still... | Dec 19 08:32 |
| prurigro | so people are making games (smaller at the moment, but still many more than ever before) cross platform | Dec 19 08:32 |
| prurigro | have you used a mac recently? | Dec 19 08:32 |
| scientes | when i have I havn't liked it | Dec 19 08:32 |
| prurigro | I haven't on that note, but I have put osx on my desktop just to try | Dec 19 08:32 |
| prurigro | thye have an app store now | Dec 19 08:32 |
| scientes | yes | Dec 19 08:32 |
| prurigro | with a lot of the same apps as are also on ios and android | Dec 19 08:32 |
| scientes | so does ubuntu | Dec 19 08:32 |
| scientes | iOS is a differn't kernel, while linux uses same everywhere | Dec 19 08:33 |
| scientes | making linux more stable and compatible long-term | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | ubuntu's doesn't share 'angry birds' or 'colloquy' or what have you | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | I'm not debating that end of things | Dec 19 08:33 |
| scientes | Ubuntu has World of Goo :P | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | just that people are making code cross platform | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | world of goo started as a linux game no? | Dec 19 08:33 |
| scientes | which is awesome BTW | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | oh | Dec 19 08:33 |
| scientes | no | Dec 19 08:33 |
| scientes | it started as Windows | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | not to mention ps3 and xbox360 | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | with the same games | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | word tho | Dec 19 08:33 |
| prurigro | touche | Dec 19 08:33 |
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| scientes | Windows tried to do that with Vista, but of course it was crap, all designed around MAFIAA | Dec 19 08:35 |
| scientes | somehow Apple can sell the same thing successfully... | Dec 19 08:35 |
| -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host86-185-121-251.range86-185.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Dec 19 08:35 | |
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| scientes | and success of Steam | Dec 19 08:35 |
| prurigro | the app store idea? | Dec 19 08:36 |
| scientes | ugggh, I hate DRM | Dec 19 08:36 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 08:36 |
| scientes | and OSX for that matter | Dec 19 08:36 |
| scientes | I want to stay as far away from that shit as possible | Dec 19 08:36 |
| prurigro | uEFI alone caused me a good 8 hours of grief getting fedora on my step dad's comp- I cringe to think what's gonna happen via SB | Dec 19 08:36 |
| scientes | including iPad nano, hemmroid, etc | Dec 19 08:36 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 08:37 |
| scientes | the iPad hardware costs $220/unit | Dec 19 08:37 |
| prurigro | the iphone feels nicer than android at this point | Dec 19 08:37 |
| prurigro | I bought an iphone and an android tablet | Dec 19 08:37 |
| scientes | and they sell it for 500 | Dec 19 08:37 |
| prurigro | and android makes me feel seriously paranoid | Dec 19 08:37 |
| prurigro | I hope they get decent drivers for linux out for a tablet soon | Dec 19 08:38 |
| prurigro | gnome3 seems like it'll be magical with a touch ui | Dec 19 08:38 |
| prurigro | and everything'll be FOSS-- spectacular I tells ya | Dec 19 08:38 |
| scientes | prob too resource intensive | Dec 19 08:39 |
| scientes | but maybe not | Dec 19 08:39 |
| prurigro | naw | Dec 19 08:39 |
| prurigro | it runs, but there's no hardware accelerated drivers yet | Dec 19 08:39 |
| prurigro | man, I was running linux on my PS2 | Dec 19 08:39 |
| scientes | what about the PS3 otherOS debacle? | Dec 19 08:39 |
| prurigro | haha, I was done with making my console into an OS by that point | Dec 19 08:40 |
| prurigro | but its pretty shitty of them to have done it | Dec 19 08:40 |
| scientes | that actually works unlike PS2 | Dec 19 08:40 |
| scientes | which is slow shit | Dec 19 08:40 |
| scientes | PS3 used for computing clusters | Dec 19 08:40 |
| scientes | they sold gazillions for that use | Dec 19 08:41 |
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| prurigro | haha | Dec 19 08:42 |
| prurigro | no hardware tho | Dec 19 08:42 |
| prurigro | PS2 wasn't bad | Dec 19 08:42 |
| prurigro | for what it was | Dec 19 08:42 |
| prurigro | you could use mplayer via svgalib | Dec 19 08:42 |
| prurigro | irc | Dec 19 08:42 |
| prurigro | centericq for chat | Dec 19 08:42 |
| prurigro | tmux woulda been nice back then, but hey haha | Dec 19 08:43 |
| prurigro | word though, I suppose SETI could have taken advantage eh? | Dec 19 08:43 |
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| brendyn | prurigro: lol i think sony wanted to prison people for doing that | Dec 19 08:52 |
| prurigro | brendyn, sony did? | Dec 19 08:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] This seems potentially an effective way to create disincentives to produce anything. We should calculate a PTO employment effect. | Dec 19 08:54 | |
| brendyn | ps3 apparently | Dec 19 08:56 |
| brendyn | http://www.defectivebydesign.org/stopsony | Dec 19 08:56 |
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| prurigro | running free software isn't exactly the same as SETI | Dec 19 08:59 |
| prurigro | in fact, didn't the ps3 come with SETI? | Dec 19 08:59 |
| brendyn | dunno | Dec 19 08:59 |
| scientes | yep | Dec 19 08:59 |
| brendyn | never even used one | Dec 19 08:59 |
| scientes | it was from their locked down online thingy | Dec 19 08:59 |
| scientes | SETI@home | Dec 19 08:59 |
| prurigro | word, is that still there? | Dec 19 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 16 Verne with #KDE - Rather nice, actually http://ur1.ca/6s2y4 # | Dec 19 09:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora 16 Verne with KDE - Rather nice, actually .::. Size~: 24.77 KB | Dec 19 09:03 |
| scientes | no idea, I don't buy that type of stuff | Dec 19 09:03 |
| prurigro | lol, 'that type of stuff' | Dec 19 09:04 |
| prurigro | I'm sure you have something | Dec 19 09:04 |
| prurigro | with less ui | Dec 19 09:04 |
| prurigro | that isn't free | Dec 19 09:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Reality's a dream A game in which I seem To never find out just what I am. | Dec 19 09:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs http://ur1.ca/6u31v ... http://b1t.it/ae6P | Dec 19 09:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat is still bound for downtown http://is.gd/6BkAEQ open sources RHEV virtualization management tool http://is.gd/2hYH4j #redhat | Dec 19 09:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat is still bound for downtown - Technology - NewsObserver.com .::. Size~: 126.51 KB | Dec 19 09:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Analyst raises #RedHat target http://is.gd/kOmwaa Red Hat Higher Ahead of Earnings http://is.gd/HANxSc #gnu #linux | Dec 19 09:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Analyst raises Red Hat target - Technology - NewsObserver.com .::. Size~: 123.74 KB | Dec 19 09:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ThistleWeb/status/148690900237811712?iid=am-66429244813242856479258349&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 19 09:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ThistleWeb: @schestowitz the expertreview link doesn't work from either shortened, or diaspora; char's cut off methinks #404 | Dec 19 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 12.04 Development update http://ur1.ca/6u38x #canonical | Dec 19 09:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CORRECTED URL: Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs http://is.gd/lXhgIU HT @thistleweb | Dec 19 09:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs | Expert Reviews .::. Size~: 56.43 KB | Dec 19 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have never been on Facebook so as far as I am told it looks like Identica. | Dec 19 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Curiously I am installing #fedora 16 #KDE on an older dell laptop this morning. It is rather nice. | Dec 19 09:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament adopts proposals to improve EU #transparency rules - http://bit.ly/stTLZC shame it's taken this long | Dec 19 09:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Access to data in industry-sponsored trials - http://bit.ly/sSBeER important stuff #opendata #clinicaltrials | Dec 19 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Twitter stake bought by #Saudi billionaire http://gu.com/p/347ea | Dec 19 09:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Access to data in industry-sponsored trials : The Lancet .::. Size~: 41.23 KB | Dec 19 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter stake bought by Saudi billionaire | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 114.58 KB | Dec 19 09:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's the difference between Kim Jong-il and Steve Jobs? Jong-il did not snub medical professionals http://is.gd/GGrIhf http://is.gd/cAn125 | Dec 19 09:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Was Steve Jobs' genius also a fatal flaw? .::. Size~: 66.69 KB | Dec 19 09:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Image of unknown woman beaten by #Egypt's military echoes around world http://gu.com/p/347d4 | Dec 19 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Image of unknown woman beaten by Egypt's military echoes around world | Ahdaf Soueif | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 247.33 KB | Dec 19 09:33 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87301352 | Dec 19 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 09:23:28 UTC - Identi.ca: Curiously I am installing #fedora 16 #KDE on an older dell laptop this morning. It is rather nice. | Dec 19 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The US is blind to the price of war that is still being borne by the Iraqi people http://gu.com/p/347aa | Dec 19 09:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @aseigo "When all's said and done, though, every one of our testers was floored by KDE 4.7 across all devices." http://ur1.ca/6tir7 | Dec 19 09:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As the US leaves Iraq, it is blind to the price for intervention paid by Iraqis | Gary Younge | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 261.73 KB | Dec 19 09:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chakra 2011.12 (Edn - Third Release) out http://ur1.ca/6u40n #chakra #archlinux #gnu #linux #kde | Dec 19 09:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Chakra Project - News .::. Size~: 53.07 KB | Dec 19 09:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Glory is a bad word. | Dec 19 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It seems as though PJ is back to #Groklaw at full capacity. #sco #novell #unix #microsoft | Dec 19 09:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] VETO the SOPA bill and any other future bills that threaten to diminish the free flow of information | The White House - http://ur1.ca/6u44z | Dec 19 09:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VETO the SOPA bill and any other future bills that threaten to diminish the free flow of information | The White House .::. Size~: 62.48 KB | Dec 19 09:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @Glinner @GeraghtyDarren Disgusting. EMI threatens Ireland with legal action if they don't #censor the internet - http://bit.ly/tNf8BY | Dec 19 09:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Illegal downloading to be curbed by Government order - The Irish Times - Mon, Dec 19, 2011 .::. Size~: 39.94 KB | Dec 19 09:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Whitehall: Govt-related private email, texts will be uncloaked - http://bit.ly/uR8bLI important #FOI clarification #uk | Dec 19 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Newt Gingrich plans some sort of #OccupyUSA AFAICS. Seems he likes absolutism, dictatorship much? ;-) | Dec 19 09:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Whitehall: Govt-related private email, texts will be uncloaked • The Register .::. Size~: 28.38 KB | Dec 19 09:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time for OSchoice.eu? - http://bit.ly/rFZHx4 interesting thought experiment; won't ever happen | Dec 19 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "They use Debian GNU/Linux on 12000 machines scattered across the country." http://is.gd/51MzHx #debian #gnu #linux | Dec 19 09:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Time for OSchoice.eu? .::. Size~: 59.54 KB | Dec 19 09:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK Department for Work and Pensions to test open source desktop http://is.gd/EZUbDQ "up to one thousand desktop PCs" | Dec 19 09:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK Department for Work and Pensions to test open source desktop | Joinup .::. Size~: 23.7 KB | Dec 19 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Inside The Atlantic: How One Magazine Got Profitable by Going ‘Digital First’ - http://on.mash.to/ukc05w this is how to do it | Dec 19 09:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google wants you to buy a Chromebook http://is.gd/ZmMD1K a searchbar/keylogger with a whole tivoised laptop around it | Dec 19 09:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google wants you to buy a Chromebook: Should you? (Review) | ZDNet .::. Size~: 145.95 KB | Dec 19 09:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For everyday use and std. users, what does Chromebook do that a Fedora laptop does not? It's just about subsidies. | Dec 19 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Fairuse in Europe: Bernt Hugenholtz and Martin Senftleben in search of flexibilities - http://bit.ly/rULDeU interesting report | Dec 19 09:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fair use in Europe: Bernt Hugenholtz and Martin Senftleben in search of flexibilities | International Communia Association .::. Size~: 26.21 KB | Dec 19 09:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7vr9FALnyU&feature=digest_mon | Dec 19 10:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Dec 19 10:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Dec 19 10:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @mtux: ☑ Kim Jong Il ☑ Khaddafi ☑ Osama Bin Laden ☑ Saddam Hussein ☐ Internet Explorer #q | Dec 19 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] how the media manipulates the truth in the US ur1.ca/6u4tr | Dec 19 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cell Phones Cause Cancer? http://ur1.ca/6u4yk #scepticism #science | Dec 19 10:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xtarwars/@xtarwars] !wikileaks !news Manning en su primera comparecencia ante la justicia mientras finaliza formalmente la ocupación de Irak http://ur1.ca/6u521 | Dec 19 10:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/12/2011: Red Hat is Up, New Chakra http://ur1.ca/6u559 #techrights | Dec 19 10:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Result! #Vodafone now allows internet underwear shopping - http://bit.ly/syYrdv why it is always worth kicking up a fuss #censorship | Dec 19 10:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slightly Right of Centre: Result! Vodafone now allows internet underwear shopping .::. Size~: 96.5 KB | Dec 19 10:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RLDUk8pIgLA#! | Dec 19 10:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Salon Corporate Challenge: Goldman Sachs http://is.gd/Ie1WVl #bank #crime #GoldmanSachs | Dec 19 10:28 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87304234 | Dec 19 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 10:17:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You already called for a boycott of BT a few months ago. Now they assert patents against GNU/Linux/Android... | Dec 19 10:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Canonical Will Remove #Java From #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/6u5pb | Dec 19 10:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 16 Officially Released for IBM System z 64-bit http://is.gd/eAaO74 #mainframe #gnu #linux | Dec 19 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Christy Moore for the first time in a while very nice. #music | Dec 19 10:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora 16 Officially Released for IBM System z 64-bit - Softpedia .::. Size~: 46.86 KB | Dec 19 10:36 |
| prurigro | http://www.ampr.org | Dec 19 10:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kororaa Linux 16 : A Fedora-based Linux named "Chum" has been released http://is.gd/9AO84n #fedora | Dec 19 10:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World Of Linux: Kororaa Linux 16 : A Fedora-based Linux named "Chum" has been released .::. Size~: 69.78 KB | Dec 19 10:38 |
| schestowitz | "I was going to make a crack about eating your own dogfood, but I'll keep my dignity insead :)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1065226 | Dec 19 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 10:40 |
| schestowitz | PJ is back.. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1065022 "Yes, it's great to see!" | Dec 19 10:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ANNOUNCE: Razor-qt 0.4.0 http://ur1.ca/6qbb7 #qt #gnu #linux | Dec 19 10:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This bloke has been on countless stages yet when I saw him he was a nervous wreck for the 1st half hour. | Dec 19 10:46 | |
| iophk | schestowitz: What signs are there that PJ is fully back? I see nothing recent on the Groklaw site. | Dec 19 10:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Hot chocolate drink... For a moment I don't care what my stomach says! #荷兰巧克力 http://identi.ca/attachment/62801370 | Dec 19 10:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/gbraad-20111219T104916-zvvuwrs.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.32 KB | Dec 19 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Viva la Quinta Brigada! | Dec 19 10:56 | |
| MinceR | j0 | Dec 19 10:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how many of the public sector job loses #Labour are moaning about, are the private consultant class they injected into it while in power? | Dec 19 10:59 | |
| schestowitz | prurigro: "Hey, its prurigro from #techrights in case you were wondering- Cheers!" | Dec 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz | cool | Dec 19 11:00 |
| prurigro | =D | Dec 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Nice to put a face on a nick | Dec 19 11:00 |
| prurigro | haha, even if that face is obscured by glasses and a ridiculous expression :) | Dec 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz | _goblin brought me to disapora some weeks ago, maybe 8 | Dec 19 11:00 |
| prurigro | word, yea, I'd seen you posting on it- then my friend told me to join | Dec 19 11:00 |
| prurigro | and I was like "another social network?.." but then I found out it was decentralized, FOSS etc | Dec 19 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when you look for where to cut back, layer upon layer of middle management seem a good place to start looking | Dec 19 11:01 | |
| oiaohm | prurigro: IRC old and light | Dec 19 11:01 |
| oiaohm | one of the few social networks you can game and use at the same time without any bad effects. | Dec 19 11:01 |
| prurigro | you mean having your identity stolen? | Dec 19 11:02 |
| prurigro | :) | Dec 19 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Really no my handles are registered. | Dec 19 11:02 |
| oiaohm | If someone does not have my mask they are not me. | Dec 19 11:03 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/2011/12/15/pissed-off-penguins-2d-game-in-blender-2-60/#utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Blendernation+%28BlenderNation%29 | Dec 19 11:03 |
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| oiaohm | Ok some things are just wired. | Dec 19 11:03 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, no ident tho? | Dec 19 11:03 |
| schestowitz | diaspora is foss, better to support the git repo than ZUckerF***'s DB of gossip | Dec 19 11:04 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, I fully agree- not to mention, its more fun when you can set it up too :) | Dec 19 11:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Voices of finance: IT consultant and developer http://gu.com/p/33kze | Dec 19 11:04 | |
| *prurigro gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Dec 19 11:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Voices of finance: IT consultant and developer | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 277.7 KB | Dec 19 11:04 |
| *prurigro gives voice to oiaohm | Dec 19 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | or it-savvy friend sets it up for you and mates | Dec 19 11:05 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, you'll have to give it a shot once they add the ability to move a user from one node to another | Dec 19 11:05 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, one thing though- I'm not sure if this is working properly for me or not, but when you subscribe to a #tag, is it supposed to paste any mentions of that tag, or just ones people in your contacts use? | Dec 19 11:06 |
| schestowitz | recenytly I found that it adds them to your /stream | Dec 19 11:07 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: this explains why I don't go near social networking sites that much. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/19/0525251/in-australia-even-private-facebook-photos-are-publichttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/19/0525251/in-australia-even-private-facebook-photos-are-public | Dec 19 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In Australia, Even Private Facebook Photos Are Public - Slashdot .::. Size~: 93.84 KB | Dec 19 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Opp | Dec 19 11:07 |
| oiaohm | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/19/0525251/in-australia-even-private-facebook-photos-are-public | Dec 19 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In Australia, Even Private Facebook Photos Are Public - Slashdot .::. Size~: 93.02 KB | Dec 19 11:07 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: users cannot be moved yet, I was told last week at the geek's xmas party | Dec 19 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Yes the law says you put it on your facebook site I can download it and use it how ever I like. | Dec 19 11:07 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, I agree with your sentiments, but that isn't an issue with diaspora | Dec 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz | cause they have exporters | Dec 19 11:08 |
| oiaohm | You have given up copyright to the data. | Dec 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz | importers are not there yet | Dec 19 11:08 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, for now, but they mention in their faq that this will change in the future | Dec 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz | So I couldn't just relocate all the content to a new pod of mine | Dec 19 11:08 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: Its a issue of australian law. | Dec 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz | we might set up a manchester one | Dec 19 11:08 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: some diaspora hosting can end up with you not covered either. | Dec 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz | what's copyright? | Dec 19 11:08 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, hence being on my own host :) | Dec 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz | is that like a mirror of techrights? | Dec 19 11:08 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: that is getting harder. | Dec 19 11:09 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: sortage of IP's ISP's are starting to crack down. | Dec 19 11:09 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, what do you mean? | Dec 19 11:10 |
| schestowitz | some ISPs don't allow hosting | Dec 19 11:10 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, I think its something companies like to say they have to feel better or something | Dec 19 11:10 |
| schestowitz | and they give crap upload speeds | Dec 19 11:10 |
| prurigro | ahh | Dec 19 11:10 |
| prurigro | most in canada give you crap upload speeds | Dec 19 11:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: no australia they are behind a second level nat. | Dec 19 11:10 |
| prurigro | but they don't mind you hosting with them | Dec 19 11:10 |
| prurigro | I use an actual server though | Dec 19 11:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so hosting impossible. | Dec 19 11:10 |
| schestowitz | UBB will kill the viability anyway | Dec 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz | instead of visitors paying to visit | Dec 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Cost would pass to host | Dec 19 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange: WikiLeaks has not gone far enough | Ethics http://t.co/3vyDKF9h | Dec 19 11:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 11:11 |
| prurigro | where is UBB getting implemented? | Dec 19 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Harper's mind | Dec 19 11:11 |
| prurigro | oh, haha- it's dead | Dec 19 11:11 |
| prurigro | thankfully | Dec 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz | is it really? good stuff, they'll retry though | Dec 19 11:12 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: what UBB | Dec 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz | they need to rebrand it now | Dec 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz | and push hard when people don't notice | Dec 19 11:12 |
| prurigro | they already settled to not have UBB in exchange for higher rates | Dec 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz | The Banwidth Act | Dec 19 11:12 |
| prurigro | for 3rd parties | Dec 19 11:12 |
| prurigro | that should shut people up for a while | Dec 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Bandwidth Act - protecting Canadian values | Dec 19 11:12 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 11:12 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Ok so something not Australian. | Dec 19 11:12 |
| prurigro | basically, 3rd parties couldn't have unlimited plans | Dec 19 11:12 |
| prurigro | legally | Dec 19 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Don't be against bandwidth | Dec 19 11:12 |
| prurigro | if the first party didn't want to offer it | Dec 19 11:13 |
| oiaohm | We have stronger regesration coming on who can get a IPv4 addess. | Dec 19 11:13 |
| prurigro | lol | Dec 19 11:13 |
| oiaohm | So non direct internet for everyone who does not have one. | Dec 19 11:13 |
| prurigro | wow | Dec 19 11:13 |
| prurigro | ipv6? | Dec 19 11:13 |
| schestowitz | The Bell-Rogers Act | Dec 19 11:13 |
| prurigro | I guess that's why no ident? | Dec 19 11:13 |
| oiaohm | ipv6 since you have been stuffed behind a nat it don't help you. | Dec 19 11:14 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: I have a mask on freenode. | Dec 19 11:14 |
| *schestowitz listens to Inspector Gadgets theme song | Dec 19 11:14 | |
| prurigro | oiaohm, you should grab a vpn | Dec 19 11:14 |
| schestowitz | *Gadget | Dec 19 11:14 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, and word, you can't use an ident if you have a mask? | Dec 19 11:14 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: the nat kills vpn links. | Dec 19 11:14 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, oh hrm, I guess that would be the case wouldn't it | Dec 19 11:15 |
| prurigro | even my phone isn't behind a nat | Dec 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: most likely you are behind a one level nat | Dec 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | Ie your dsl modem. | Dec 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | I am talking a two level nat | Dec 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | and a two level nat turns nasty. | Dec 19 11:16 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, how would I know? | Dec 19 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Do you have like ip 10.x.x.x or 192.168,x.x and there is one other that are not internet Ip address on your computer. | Dec 19 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Those are local network addresses | Dec 19 11:16 |
| prurigro | I'm a 96.x.x.x | Dec 19 11:17 |
| prurigro | or wait | Dec 19 11:17 |
| prurigro | that's my server ;) I mean 173.x.x.x | Dec 19 11:17 |
| prurigro | unless you mean am I going through a router | Dec 19 11:18 |
| prurigro | in which case yes | Dec 19 11:18 |
| prurigro | and my phone is 74.x.x.x (no router of course) | Dec 19 11:19 |
| prurigro | tho it can act like one | Dec 19 11:19 |
| oiaohm | 172.16.0.0 – 172.31.255.255 ? prurigro | Dec 19 11:19 |
| prurigro | 173.206.x.x | Dec 19 11:20 |
| prurigro | server is 96.126 and phone is 74.198 | Dec 19 11:20 |
| prurigro | wow, I have 3 ipv4 addresses to myself | Dec 19 11:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange, un héros assiégé | Le Monde http://t.co/vCKAKIgq | Dec 19 11:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 11:21 |
| prurigro | anyway, what does being withing that range mean? | Dec 19 11:21 |
| prurigro | within* | Dec 19 11:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux #Kernel 3.2 RC6 Is Available for Testing http://ur1.ca/6u6xd... http://b1t.it/afbo | Dec 19 11:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pear OS Linux Panther 3 review http://ur1.ca/6u710 #pearos #gnu #linux | Dec 19 11:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @tim Virgin Media profanity filter statement: "altered titles have been swiftly an*lysed and we're fixing any remaining glitches." >>ha! | Dec 19 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'No Time to Explain' Season 2 Released for Linux http://is.gd/AEmhVX #games #linux | Dec 19 11:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "As a criminologist, I do not favor sentencing criminals to the fates they richly deserve." http://is.gd/PpMubd #economy #whitecollar #crime | Dec 19 11:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #LiMux project is more succesfull then expected http://ur1.ca/6u769 #gnu #linux #germany | Dec 19 11:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Puppy Linux Racy Review http://gnuman.com/?p=116 #puppylinux #gnu #linux | Dec 19 11:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87317281 | Dec 19 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 11:16:51 UTC - Identi.ca: #Google Starts Rolling Out #Android 4.0 To Nexus S http://ur1.ca/6u6t8 | Dec 19 11:34 |
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| oiaohm | prurigro: that is the problem you have only a small number of devices and you are using 3 | Dec 19 11:38 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, well one of them is a server | Dec 19 11:38 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, not to mention, http://blog.aa6e.net/2010/01/wondering-about-amprnet.html <-- what about this range? | Dec 19 11:39 |
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| prurigro | oiaohm, honestly though, we should just make the move to ipv6-- having available ports is actually not such a bad thing despite the fact that it seems like I'm squandering them at the moment :) | Dec 19 11:41 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87317570 | Dec 19 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 11:22:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz check links. | Dec 19 11:42 |
| schestowitz | hmm | Dec 19 11:42 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: other than some of the hardware out there not likely ipv6 packets so stripping from the network for being malformed. | Dec 19 11:42 |
| oiaohm | amprnet is also used between cb repeater stations. | Dec 19 11:43 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87318411 | Dec 19 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 11:38:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz I remember Pear computers. It did not end well. | Dec 19 11:43 |
| oiaohm | spreed around the world. | Dec 19 11:43 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, how much of 44.x.x.x does amprnet actually need though? | Dec 19 11:43 |
| prurigro | and are you talking about ipv6 not being released because people's hardware won't be compatible with it? | Dec 19 11:44 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: problem is 44.x.x.x would be like claiming back 10.x.x.x | Dec 19 11:45 |
| prurigro | oh? | Dec 19 11:45 |
| oiaohm | Its a item in use prurigro | Dec 19 11:46 |
| oiaohm | 44 has been badly allocated | Dec 19 11:46 |
| oiaohm | So there is not exact list of what number have been handed out. | Dec 19 11:46 |
| prurigro | ahh, lame | Dec 19 11:46 |
| oiaohm | So yes its possible for two people to think they have a right to a particular 44 address. | Dec 19 11:46 |
| prurigro | word | Dec 19 11:47 |
| prurigro | ok, that makes sense then | Dec 19 11:47 |
| prurigro | but why no ipv6? | Dec 19 11:47 |
| oiaohm | If you did claim back 44 it could not be a global ip range | Dec 19 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Due to possible conflits that could exist. | Dec 19 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Mind you claiming 44 back as a second level NAT IP range would be possible. | Dec 19 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Ipv6 still has routing trouble with old devices. prurigro | Dec 19 11:48 |
| oiaohm | Yes the internet has a lot of crappy devices in it. | Dec 19 11:48 |
| oiaohm | That should be meet the nearest shredder. | Dec 19 11:48 |
| schestowitz | "translation of the sarcastic post title for non-germans: "Today's clear example of self-defense comes from Egypt." " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1065311 | Dec 19 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 11:49 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, why not have a fallback to a NAT'd ipv4 address so if your device is too old it can access a more basic version of the web? | Dec 19 11:49 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: I am not talking abotu your devices | Dec 19 11:49 |
| prurigro | oh | Dec 19 11:49 |
| prurigro | like ISP devices | Dec 19 11:49 |
| oiaohm | I am talking about devices sitting at entry ways to fiber cables. | Dec 19 11:49 |
| prurigro | ? | Dec 19 11:49 |
| prurigro | gotchya | Dec 19 11:49 |
| oiaohm | They very device you don't want to say hey Ipv6 I am eating you for lunch. | Dec 19 11:50 |
| prurigro | maybe have the signal enter a ipv4 NAT mode at that point then? | Dec 19 11:50 |
| oiaohm | Basically some sections of the network really need vpn networks. | Dec 19 11:50 |
| prurigro | how so? | Dec 19 11:51 |
| oiaohm | Ie ipv6 into a vpn that travels ipv4 crossing the horid hardware that needs to be replaced. | Dec 19 11:51 |
| prurigro | ohhh | Dec 19 11:51 |
| prurigro | its not entering Canada | Dec 19 11:51 |
| prurigro | its a repeater between Australia and Canada | Dec 19 11:51 |
| prurigro | gotchya | Dec 19 11:51 |
| prurigro | yea, that could def cause a problem, then | Dec 19 11:51 |
| oiaohm | Basically internet is old and its showing the age. | Dec 19 11:52 |
| oiaohm | and some of those repeaters are in complete ass hole locations to replace like the sea floor. prurigro | Dec 19 11:52 |
| oiaohm | And they were not designed to be replaced either | Dec 19 11:53 |
| oiaohm | hello poor planning. | Dec 19 11:53 |
| prurigro | oh dear | Dec 19 11:53 |
| prurigro | the sea floor doesn't sound happy | Dec 19 11:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What's More Secure: Pattern Lock or a PIN? - !Android PIT http://goo.gl/BWyop | Dec 19 11:54 | |
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| oiaohm | At least its not like one location near australia. Detour fiber cable to avoid sharks. prurigro | Dec 19 11:55 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: I am not kidding. Some sharks will attack fiber cable but will not touch copper go figgure. | Dec 19 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The black and tans from London came to shoot the people down, they thought the IRA was dead in dear old Belfast town" | Dec 19 11:56 | |
| prurigro | oiaohm, wow haha, no kidding-- I figured overseas were all satellite stuff, but on that note, the fibre itself is not the issue correct? | Dec 19 11:57 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: most overseas stuff is cable. | Dec 19 11:58 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: satelite is not exactly fast. | Dec 19 11:58 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, yea I suppose not eh | Dec 19 11:59 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: the global map of cables is quite impressive. | Dec 19 11:59 |
| oiaohm | other than the stupid errors made in laying some. | Dec 19 11:59 |
| oiaohm | Also satelite also can be anti ipv6 | Dec 19 11:59 |
| prurigro | hmm true | Dec 19 11:59 |
| oiaohm | Also in a prick location to fix. | Dec 19 11:59 |
| prurigro | you'd think some kind of hack could be implemented | Dec 19 12:00 |
| prurigro | in the mean time though | Dec 19 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Fixing it requires effort and spending money. | Dec 19 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Ie maping out where all the defects are | Dec 19 12:00 |
| prurigro | like have towers that are capable of it translate to ipv4 and back by changing it to plaintext or something | Dec 19 12:00 |
| oiaohm | And fitting work around at each defect. | Dec 19 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Or removing defect | Dec 19 12:00 |
| oiaohm | This would eat into company profits. | Dec 19 12:01 |
| oiaohm | So stiff biskets its not happening. | Dec 19 12:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables on North Korea's new leader: Kim Jong Un http://t.co/xW8WyQRv http://t.co/6T0NTlaI | Dec 19 12:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 12:01 |
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| prurigro | oiaohm, and instead australia is stuck without something I personally consider an intrinsic part of my internet experience | Dec 19 12:02 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: these defects in the internet network are all around the world. | Dec 19 12:02 |
| oiaohm | There are most likely some in the country were you are. | Dec 19 12:02 |
| oiaohm | So ruining ipv6 operations. | Dec 19 12:03 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: remember austrralia is in the asian area of IP allocations. | Dec 19 12:03 |
| prurigro | ahh, where there are many a person eh | Dec 19 12:03 |
| oiaohm | So we kinda run out first. | Dec 19 12:03 |
| oiaohm | But what is happening to us will happen to you. | Dec 19 12:04 |
| oiaohm | In time. | Dec 19 12:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes the areas that are not up the creak are being very lazy fixing up there ipv6 support. | Dec 19 12:06 |
| oiaohm | 2012 looks like the year multi touch comes to Linux by default | Dec 19 12:07 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, parts the US has ipv6, on that note, but yea touche | Dec 19 12:09 |
| prurigro | and hmmm- multitouch isn't already in via wacom or whatever its called? | Dec 19 12:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden attempts to extradite Assange without charge. UK Supreme Court says the issue is of great public importance https://t.co/ksBlkY3n | Dec 19 12:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [via] | Dec 19 12:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ [via] | Dec 19 12:11 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1064772 "You didn't apt-get -t experimental dist-upgrade, did you? ;)" | Dec 19 12:17 |
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| schestowitz | No AFAIK | Dec 19 12:18 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: this is proper multi touch stack in X11 and wayland directly | Dec 19 12:18 |
| oiaohm | No third party lib solution like wacom does. | Dec 19 12:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Richard Stallman Interview http://ur1.ca/6u7z2 #fsf | Dec 19 12:23 | |
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| schestowitz | "Well, what did you do? Even on sid I rarely run into a situation like this, so I really wonder what went wrong." -> Update manager just got sort of stuck... 3 times. | Dec 19 12:24 |
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| iophk | The RMS interview is in Flash :( :( | Dec 19 12:25 |
| MinceR | :( | Dec 19 12:26 |
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| schestowitz | "What branch are you using, stable, testing or unstable?" >> stable/squeeze, am retrying now | Dec 19 12:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > PS avança com proposta para reforçar direitos de autor - A #MAFIAA do PS continua aí em força...#poucavergonha http://goo.gl/sdcqp | Dec 19 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] This -> http://xkcd.com/992/ !xkcd web !comic | Dec 19 12:29 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: no ogg option | Dec 19 12:30 |
| schestowitz | and it's not in a former I can easily convert | Dec 19 12:30 |
| schestowitz | it's worth watching just for the host being an arse | Dec 19 12:30 |
| schestowitz | doesn't matter what argument he makes, when it's made like this he discredits himself | Dec 19 12:31 |
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| prurigro | oiaohm, oh cool, that's awesome- good to hear its in both wayland and x too :) | Dec 19 12:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @cienkamila: Happy Birthday, @creativecommons!! ur1.ca/6u8vj !cc | Dec 19 12:36 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 19 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Something must have gone pretty awry then, stable should never be hit by deadlocks. Are you sure you didn't mix sources? | Dec 19 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Well, if such a thing occurs in the unstable branch, waiting a day or two for a fix usually remedies the situation. | Dec 19 12:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 19 12:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Is Julian Assange a dangerous radical? http://t.co/gLgKdqCm | Dec 19 12:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Banking blockades, extraditions and espionage trials. Keep WikiLeaks strong this Xmas: http://t.co/cFIdfbcW | Dec 19 13:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mageia 2.0 alpha 2 released - The H Open Source - #gnulinux #floss http://goo.gl/PnN22 | Dec 19 13:13 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: thanks for checking | Dec 19 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I did a Google search before publishing | Dec 19 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I tried to find an ogg version somewhere, inc.fsf.org | Dec 19 13:13 |
| iophk | No worries. There needs to be more of a push for WebM or Ogg | Dec 19 13:13 |
| schestowitz | to no avail | Dec 19 13:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Tell me what you see :-) http://ur1.ca/6u9we | Dec 19 13:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anika Okje Erdmann - Google+ - what are yours? .::. Size~: 48.18 KB | Dec 19 13:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Keep WikiLeaks soldier Bradley Manning's legal team strong this Xmas http://t.co/3eYtR2bv #freebrad #wikileaks #ows | Dec 19 13:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Kdenlive Part 5: All About Audio http://red.ht/vSIwD1 #kde #GNU #opensource | Dec 19 13:23 | |
| *prurigro gives voice to brendyn | Dec 19 13:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kdenlive Part 5: All About Audio | opensource.com .::. Size~: 55.89 KB | Dec 19 13:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cerveja Artesanal, caseira, tradicional, saborosa, natural - #preppers #beer :) http://ur1.ca/6ua51 | Dec 19 13:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Manning pre-trial: In depth notes for day 3 http://t.co/Ed9P3Thk | Dec 19 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Too scared to donate to WikiLeaks? Give a thought to CCR, Tor, I2p, EFF, Democracy Now, Globlal Witness this Xmas https://t.co/WE9D0tWq | Dec 19 13:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #OpenAccess Interviews: OMICS Publishing Group’s Srinu Babu Gedela - http://bit.ly/tyVQc6 "a predatory Open Access publisher"? | Dec 19 13:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] WebOS: Destined to Fail, or Fuel for FLOSS' Fire? http://ur1.ca/6uapc | Dec 19 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dec. 19, 1974: Build Your Own Computer at Home! - http://bit.ly/v9uibH 256-byte memory; so far, so fast #altair | Dec 19 13:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dec. 19, 1974: Build Your Own Computer at Home! | This Day In Tech | Wired.com .::. Size~: 54.74 KB | Dec 19 13:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "No skiing on the Fröttmaninger Berg in Munich this year. For the 2012/13 season, however, there'll be ... http://b1t.it/afgj | Dec 19 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange signed #occupy Oakland Iraq War Vet's petition to permit UN to visit Bradley Manning. Have you? https://t.co/VTRrGiJh | Dec 19 13:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - No skiing on the Fröttmaninger Berg in Munich this year.… .::. Size~: 49.52 KB | Dec 19 13:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just How Much Did !Google's 10 Billion App Promotion Help Included Developers? | Hello Android http://goo.gl/diI86 | Dec 19 13:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Day 4 of Bradley Manning pre-trial is about to start. https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Dec 19 14:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Time for OSchoice.eu? http://ur1.ca/6ub5x | Dec 19 14:04 | |
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| iophk | The "Browser Ballot" did nothing to address the bundling of MSIE with Windows. The choice screen for operating systems is a good idea, by getting rid of Windows, it is the only way to be rid of MSIE. | Dec 19 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @wikileaks: Too scared to donate to !WL? Give a thought to CCR, Tor, I2p, EFF, Democracy Now, Globlal Witness this Xmas http://va.mu/TCoF | Dec 19 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Did WikiLeaks release the Arab Spring? 1) http://t.co/lICujnw3 2) http://t.co/11dhLNQC 3) http://t.co/k5iWxSXb | Dec 19 14:11 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: choice to dodge Neelie | Dec 19 14:22 |
| iophk | Dodge her? | Dec 19 14:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First #Nightingale media player release arrives http://is.gd/yArC8j #songbird #linux | Dec 19 14:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First Nightingale media player release arrives - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.74 KB | Dec 19 14:23 |
| schestowitz | antitrust | Dec 19 14:23 |
| iophk | She's out of the way now with the new job isn't she? | Dec 19 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Mac Asay has a new piece with headline written by Reg Ed http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/16/microsoft_cloud_embraces_open_source/ | Dec 19 14:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft will beat Linux clouds at their own game - with open source • The Register .::. Size~: 28.71 KB | Dec 19 14:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linaro scheme recognizes effort by contributors http://is.gd/kC8Nhx #linux #arm | Dec 19 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "A few big improvements before the New Year I'm really thrilled to announce new features and functional... http://b1t.it/afhu | Dec 19 14:24 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: yes | Dec 19 14:24 |
| iophk | She botched it trying to "wrap things up" before taking the new job. | Dec 19 14:25 |
| iophk | Handed it to M$ as it were. | Dec 19 14:25 |
| schestowitz | http://lifehacker.com/5868759/the-best-music-player-application-for-linux | Dec 19 14:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://appdev.cbronline.com/news/oracle-releases-solaris-studio-123-191211 | Dec 19 14:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How does mobile Internet filtering work? - http://bit.ly/ttBpnX increasingly important question #censorship | Dec 19 14:31 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: new article http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/time_oschoice_eu | Dec 19 14:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sky follows BT in blocking Newzbin2 http://bit.ly/vKk5GY | Dec 19 14:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The newsletter for the Debian community http://ur1.ca/6uc3y eventually I managed to update my #Debian system :-) | Dec 19 14:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Coalmine a 'threat to global warming target' - http://bit.ly/tV9C5b such as "China First" project - at least they're honest about priorities | Dec 19 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Map of !opensource conferences and events | opensource.com http://red.ht/uOLS0T | Dec 19 14:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MSBBC 'pulls a Murdoch' - spins story on #Manning to incite against hero http://ur1.ca/6ucbq #wikileaks | Dec 19 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Could Domestic Surveillance #Drones Spur Tougher #Privacy Laws? - http://bit.ly/t2xzJL interesting perspective | Dec 19 14:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Manning case: Army 'failed to spot Wikileaks danger' .::. Size~: 68.29 KB | Dec 19 14:48 |
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| amarsh04 | new machine is now running kernel compiled with gcc-4.7: Linux version 3.2.0-rc6+ (root@am64) (gcc version 4.7.0 20111217 (experimental) [trunk revision 182445] (Debian 4.7-20111217-2) ) | Dec 19 14:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The 1 Hour Custom Kydex Knife Sheath – IN YOUR KITCHEN - #knives #preppers http://goo.gl/wqEZc | Dec 19 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU Telephony plans for 2012 http://ur1.ca/6tlq7 #gnu #privacy #freedom | Dec 19 14:54 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/12/cloud-foundry-net/ | Dec 19 14:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EGL Goes Open Source http://ur1.ca/6uci8 #ibm | Dec 19 14:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Second Java 7 update includes JavaFX SDK (H): http://bit.ly/tNCcoc | Dec 19 14:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] http://ur1.ca/6nv2m exposes Homeland Security RIAA Torrent Users (The Register): http://bit.ly/sJxPs2 | Dec 19 15:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft openwashes itself by saying it will throw some 3rd party FOSS into its DRM jail. Wow! "Openness". If you can... http://b1t.it/afiN | Dec 19 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Opensource use in govt is healthy: #AGIMO http://ur1.ca/6ucmt #au | Dec 19 15:04 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source use in govt is healthy: AGIMO - open source, Australian Government Information Management Office, agimo - Open Source - Techworld .::. Size~: 80.69 KB | Dec 19 15:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DWP to trial open-source desktops http://ur1.ca/6ucpg more on this good precedence | Dec 19 15:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DWP to trial open-source desktops | Latest Industry News | News | Opinion, News, Analysis | BCS - The Chartered Institute for IT .::. Size~: 30.72 KB | Dec 19 15:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SOPA Creator In TV/Film/Music Industry's Pocket - Slashdot - #usa #mafiaa http://goo.gl/zuiyM | Dec 19 15:13 | |
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| amarsh04 | back in a few | Dec 19 15:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CNET apologises for getting caught :-) http://is.gd/GEso41 let's call them "malwarenet". | Dec 19 15:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Download.com "apologises" for bundling - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 43 KB | Dec 19 15:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CNET is owned by CBS. "CBS to silence the views... and to shape the outcome of the election" http://is.gd/cX8yfy #BigMedia #US | Dec 19 15:16 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.i-programmer.info/news/136-open-source/3422-amazon-fire-not-really-open.html | Dec 19 15:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87330185 | Dec 19 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 15:13:58 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz Enterprise Generation Language(EGL) Goes #OpenSource http://ur1.ca/6uci8 !ibm —debut of #Eclipse #EGL Web Dev Tools ver. 0.7 | Dec 19 15:28 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 15:17:21 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz Microsoft openwashes itself by saying it'll throw some 3rd party !FOSS into its #DRM jail…Wow! "Openness" http://b1t.it/afiN | Dec 19 15:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Happy Monday! Give to our Annual Campaign & get your donation matched thru the end of the wk (Dec 25): http://ur1.ca/27giu | Dec 19 15:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] well, they start by requiring a new system they made, not supporting the standards. Not evil per se, but I wouldn't call it a good start | Dec 19 15:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mcepl "Havel has made one last contribution to mankind - he took Kim with him." Chinese reactions to Kim Jong-il's death http://on.w ... | Dec 19 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | "My net bank doesn't work with OpenJDK, so I had to download the Oracle package :-/ " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1065212 | Dec 19 16:13 |
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| schestowitz | " | Dec 19 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Razor-qt is an advanced, easy-to-use, and fast **desktop environment* based on Qt technologies. It has been tailored for users who value simplicity, speed, and intuitive interface. Unlike desktop environments, Razor-qt also works fine with weak machines.* | Dec 19 16:13 |
| schestowitz | I think they forgot a word ;-) | Dec 19 16:13 |
| schestowitz | One of the KDE devs (aseigo?) questioned the speed of a QWidget based desktop. He might be right with GLES drivers being pretty good by now. | Dec 19 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Hmm. MarkDown in comments is still not perfect." | Dec 19 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1065239 | Dec 19 16:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eurocrisis: "Democracy is Not a Given" http://ur1.ca/6ue0r very good #youtube channel | Dec 19 16:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/12/2011: Linux Kernel 3.2 RC 6, Razor-qt 0.4.0 http://ur1.ca/6ue0n #techrights | Dec 19 16:19 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 19/12/2011: Linux Kernel 3.2 RC 6, Razor-qt 0.4.0 | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.33 KB | Dec 19 16:19 |
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| realazthat | I need to rant | Dec 19 16:37 |
| realazthat | I no longer want the FTC to stop robocalls | Dec 19 16:37 |
| realazthat | I just want them to identify them for me, so I can get a shotgun :P | Dec 19 16:38 |
| realazthat | FCC/FTC | Dec 19 16:38 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 19 16:38 |
| schestowitz | That would be a Republican FCC | Dec 19 16:38 |
| schestowitz | yesterday one of our clients banned some business that was spamming | Dec 19 16:39 |
| realazthat | tbh I don't mind robocalls as much as I do this particular one | Dec 19 16:41 |
| realazthat | I have made several FCC complaints over a at least year (it feels like that at least) | Dec 19 16:41 |
| realazthat | cardholder services must die | Dec 19 16:42 |
| realazthat | I try to waste their time as much as I can | Dec 19 16:42 |
| realazthat | but they seem pretty savvy to that | Dec 19 16:42 |
| realazthat | and they hang up as soon as they feel they are being jerked | Dec 19 16:42 |
| realazthat | ask for contact info ... hang up | Dec 19 16:42 |
| realazthat | ask to wait for bathroom break ... hang up | Dec 19 16:42 |
| realazthat | etc. | Dec 19 16:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] Let's get some people coming to OctConf! http://ur1.ca/6ueg9 | Dec 19 16:43 | |
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| realazthat | and they keep coming back | Dec 19 16:43 |
| realazthat | at least 5 times a week | Dec 19 16:43 |
| realazthat | twice today | Dec 19 16:43 |
| realazthat | I don't care about the law anymore, just gimme a bat | Dec 19 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | [16:42] <realazthat> and they hang up as soon as they feel they are being jerked | Dec 19 16:46 |
| realazthat | I never saw a company/marketing service with such audacity | Dec 19 16:46 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Dec 19 16:46 |
| schestowitz | typical | Dec 19 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I got those too | Dec 19 16:46 |
| realazthat | the FCCs lack of action angers me more than anything | Dec 19 16:46 |
| realazthat | I bet the government would act if I firebombed their buildings | Dec 19 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | you pay the FCC | Dec 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | to service you | Dec 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | !google lessig reboot the fcc | Dec 19 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Lessig: It's Time to Demolish the FCC - The Daily Beast | http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/12/22/reboot-the-fcc.html | Dec 19 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - World News - The Daily Beast | http://www.thedailybeast.com/topics/world.html | Dec 19 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Volokh Conspiracy - Reboot the FCC: | http://volokh.com/posts/1230134571.shtml | Dec 19 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Blow up the FCC (or so was this titled when I submitted it in ... - Lessig | http://www.lessig.org/blog/2008/12/blow_up_the_fcc_or_so_was_this.html | Dec 19 16:47 |
| realazthat | not only that, if they were to simply prosecute this, they would greatly expand their budget | Dec 19 16:47 |
| realazthat | I don't know what is holding them back | Dec 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | see [4] | Dec 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | They retitled his article | Dec 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | to soften it | Dec 19 16:47 |
| schestowitz | !google ftc techrights | Dec 19 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - ES: Las Patentes de Software Frente a Nuevos Retos la FTC ... | http://techrights.org/2011/06/28/swpats-against-the-world-reexamined_es/ | Dec 19 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - ES: Promotor de Ogg Contraataca Contra el Cartel de ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/23/xiph-vs-mpeg-cartel_es/ | Dec 19 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Software Patents Face New Challenges as FTC Notified ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/swpats-against-the-world-reexamined/ | Dec 19 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Apple Deception - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Apple_Deception | Dec 19 16:48 |
| schestowitz | they said they would crack down on AstroTurfing | Dec 19 16:48 |
| schestowitz | I submitted a complaint when Microsoft TEs (astroturfers) flooded the commants section | Dec 19 16:48 |
| schestowitz | the FTC responded, but it did not take action | Dec 19 16:49 |
| schestowitz | I guess only when millionaires and corporations complain they'll bother | Dec 19 16:49 |
| realazthat | well, from a freedom standpoint, I don't see anything wrong with either | Dec 19 16:49 |
| realazthat | but tbh, my phone company should allow me to not accept calls from large parts of the telecom network | Dec 19 16:50 |
| realazthat | but they don't | Dec 19 16:50 |
| realazthat | and the FCC is my only venue for this | Dec 19 16:50 |
| schestowitz | It's the complaint departments whose role is to pretend that there is feedback reception and a watchdog when in fact all that is should be considered an absorber of public anger | Dec 19 16:50 |
| realazthat | and its blatantly illegal, easily enforcable | Dec 19 16:50 |
| realazthat | well I had a long talk with the FCC woman | Dec 19 16:50 |
| schestowitz | current? | Dec 19 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Or Deborah Majoras? | Dec 19 16:51 |
| realazthat | not the head lol | Dec 19 16:51 |
| realazthat | just a rep | Dec 19 16:51 |
| schestowitz | boh | Dec 19 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Majoras was FTC anyway | Dec 19 16:51 |
| schestowitz | FCC has former MSFTer in it | Dec 19 16:51 |
| schestowitz | in charge | Dec 19 16:51 |
| realazthat | heh | Dec 19 16:51 |
| realazthat | I didn't even know that was a problem | Dec 19 16:51 |
| realazthat | astroturfing | Dec 19 16:51 |
| realazthat | I mean, I read about it that it was a tactic | Dec 19 16:52 |
| realazthat | but is it illegal? | Dec 19 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Keeping up the standards of Microsoft... ethics, enforcement, justice. | Dec 19 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Arábia Saudita príncipe compra participação no #Twitter - Expresso.pt - a pensar nas revoluções das cores? http://goo.gl/P8NX5 | Dec 19 16:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arábia Saudita príncipe compra participação no Twitter - Expresso.pt .::. Size~: 85.76 KB | Dec 19 16:56 |
| schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=sopa_shall_not_pass&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Dec 19 17:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/opinion/sunday/irelands-diaspora-yet-again.html?_r=1 | Dec 19 17:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] in my quest unify my desktop with GTK based apps, I'm going to give Midori a go for a bit. | Dec 19 17:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Saudi Prince Pumps $300 Million Into Twitter http://ur1.ca/6uf5h Bill's mate | Dec 19 17:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Saudi Prince Pumps $300 Million Into Twitter | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 62.44 KB | Dec 19 17:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Grails 2.0 with more cloud support and NoSQL connectivity http://is.gd/oIs4Ul #db | Dec 19 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Second Snapshot Of X.Org Server 1.12 http://ur1.ca/6uf7s #xserver #linux | Dec 19 17:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Grails 2.0 with more cloud support and NoSQL connectivity - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.54 KB | Dec 19 17:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 2.0 alpha 2 released http://ur1.ca/6ufa8 #mandriva | Dec 19 17:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat has momentum into 2012, say partners http://ur1.ca/6ufbp #linux | Dec 19 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Apple eh? !heehaw | Dec 19 17:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat has momentum into 2012, say partners | ZDNet .::. Size~: 112.19 KB | Dec 19 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LXDE and #Xfce – the other desktops http://is.gd/6GtHyK I tried LXDE yesterday (again in Debian), it is still blazing fast and polished | Dec 19 17:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh and @methoddan, the sixgun forum won't accept my new password. LET ME IN! | Dec 19 17:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Hindu: Chomsky, 70 others oppose Assang eextradition http://t.co/Tg30LuY2 | Dec 19 17:31 | |
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| beenz | Hi | Dec 19 17:32 |
| beenz | Wicked yo | Dec 19 17:33 |
| schestowitz | weekend just ended | Dec 19 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Bo selecta | Dec 19 17:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] ♻ @opensourceway: Kdenlive Part 5: All About Audio http://t.co/B6Q9CCZj !kde !fs !linux | Dec 19 17:34 | |
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| beenz | Hey schestowitz | Dec 19 17:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @relkatz: Fair Dealing’s 100 Years of Solitude - http://t.co/jE9sttnx | Dec 19 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Lemley, Levine & Post on SOPA: Don't Break the Internet http://t.co/senRVN8j | Dec 19 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/6uflr #sip_and_click morning nom | Dec 19 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @relkatz: Access? Copyright! - Why Access Copyright doesn't promote access. http://t.co/B2jiyy8q | Dec 19 17:36 | |
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| schestowitz | beenz: any news? | Dec 19 17:39 |
| beenz | Haven't had a chance at grabbing the dox | Dec 19 17:40 |
| beenz | Boss isn't taking days off | Dec 19 17:40 |
| schestowitz | ok, no rush | Dec 19 17:41 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/xdAwa.jpg | Dec 19 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 19 17:41 |
| beenz | Probably after giftmas | Dec 19 17:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hundres rally in support of WikiLeaks soldier http://t.co/qpobLrzw | Dec 19 17:51 | |
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| schestowitz | "Debian is already fast with gnome. It's amazing with Xfce! :) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 | Dec 19 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | depends on HW | Dec 19 17:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: to test our faith in doctors? | Dec 19 17:54 |
| beenz | Debian is nice, really fast | Dec 19 17:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Now that RHEL 6.2 is out, RHEL clones Oracle Linux and CentOS will be released (H): http://bit.ly/s0sdaN | Dec 19 17:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Version 6.2 of Oracle Linux and CentOS arriving - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.17 KB | Dec 19 17:59 |
| schestowitz | http://digg.com/news/offbeat/oh_the_horror_gif | Dec 19 18:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] GPL use declining (H): http://bit.ly/rJ7SwE | Dec 19 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning pre-trial day 4, noon: Ellsberg comes to court, Choi has rank ripped off, ACLU files tomorrow http://t.co/NZZhRxey | Dec 19 18:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ich vermute das Google für jedes neue Feature bei GooglePlus erstmal mit der GEMA und der VG Wort verhandeln muss. Od... http://b1t.it/afoi | Dec 19 18:04 | |
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| beenz | black duck = biased microsoft propaganda | Dec 19 18:05 |
| schestowitz | oddly enough their current ceo iirc is from rhat | Dec 19 18:07 |
| schestowitz | but not the board and founder | Dec 19 18:07 |
| schestowitz | tim yeates or something | Dec 19 18:07 |
| schestowitz | openlogic is another, stormy petes seems to have escaped it quickly | Dec 19 18:08 |
| schestowitz | so kim and grandchamp do their FUD alone | Dec 19 18:08 |
| schestowitz | AND... | Dec 19 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Earlier today I got an email saying openlogic started following me in twitter | Dec 19 18:08 |
| schestowitz | right after I had cirticised them again | Dec 19 18:08 |
| schestowitz | they try to suck up and kim tried to shut me up for years | Dec 19 18:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Thanks for letting me know about "watch" | Dec 19 18:11 | |
| koolhead17 | hello all | Dec 19 18:14 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yeah, right | Dec 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Heh. In Digg's Open Source section.. | Dec 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Turned out I am ranked number 2 | Dec 19 18:15 |
| MinceR | the cultists never had any faith in doctors to begin with | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I can reach top spotm easily | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: did you read about Jobs? | Dec 19 18:16 |
| MinceR | they pray to their invisible friend for help and thank their invisible friend if modern medicine helped | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I posted in -social about it | Dec 19 18:16 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: which one? | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > A God-complex is not good for your health: | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > [quote] | Dec 19 18:16 |
| MinceR | oh, right | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > One of Steve Jobs' closest friends and business allies has said the | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > former Apple boss's own self-belief and mindset led him to put off | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > having his cancer treated. | Dec 19 18:16 |
| MinceR | i've read about that earlier | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > Avie Tevanian said Mr Jobs had a "reality distortion field" - a force of | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > will that helped him get people to achieve the impossible. | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > That same belief system caused him to refuse conventional treatment for | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > his cancer in the critical early stages after diagnosis. | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > ... | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > "I think he truly thought that through some unconventional means he | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > could cure himself." | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > ... | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > He was diagnosed with insulinoma, which unlike other pancreatic cancers, | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > is curable and can be treated with surgery. | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > Doctors recommended an early operation but Mr Jobs could not be | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > persuaded to stop his pursuit of alternative remedies. | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > [/quote] | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16157142 | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I posted this for others just now | Dec 19 18:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Was Steve Jobs' genius also a fatal flaw? .::. Size~: 66.55 KB | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I think it verifies what I claimed earlier without proof | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | That the quack was a quack | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | and quacks like a duck | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | this is also why religion is dangerous | Dec 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | esp. when illness strikes | Dec 19 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Dell pulls back from netbook market (Techworld): http://bit.ly/sls2nl | Dec 19 18:18 | |
| schestowitz | and one of the stronger arguments you can bring into a debate with faithheads as Dawkins calls em | Dec 19 18:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell pulls back from netbook market - netbooks, laptops, hardware systems, dell - Notebooks - Hardware - Techworld .::. Size~: 78.51 KB | Dec 19 18:18 |
| MinceR | though i didn't know before that insulinoma was the diagnosis | Dec 19 18:18 |
| schestowitz | <basically, it's the "religion kils" argument, even without the war element (religion of peace too) | Dec 19 18:18 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <schestowitz> > MSBBC: Jobs died of arrogance | Dec 19 18:19 |
| schestowitz | That was Homer's headline | Dec 19 18:19 |
| schestowitz | I'd say | Dec 19 18:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @picandocodigo What’s New In !Emacs 24 (part 1) - http://ur1.ca/6ufdj | Dec 19 18:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Wow! Better completion in M-x shell? I am installing Emacs 24 right damn now! | Dec 19 18:19 | |
| schestowitz | Suicidal mind | Dec 19 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | [18:16] <schestowitz> [09:25] <schestowitz> > Doctors recommended an early operation but Mr Jobs could not be | Dec 19 18:19 |
| schestowitz | [18:16] <schestowitz> [09:25] <schestowitz> > persuaded to stop his pursuit of alternative remedies. | Dec 19 18:19 |
| schestowitz | [09:26] <schestowitz> > He thought he could beat cancer by eating nuts and berries | Dec 19 18:20 |
| MinceR | i'd say that his stupidity killed him :> | Dec 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | [09:26] <schestowitz> > and meditating. He truly was full of himself. | Dec 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | I hope apple cultists don't follow his example | Dec 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | actually, you might hope the opposite | Dec 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | cause you're anonymous, too | Dec 19 18:21 |
| MinceR | it would help the gene pool if they did | Dec 19 18:21 |
| schestowitz | imagine that | Dec 19 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video/Transcript: Democracy Now interviews reporter covering days 1-3 of Manning Pre-Trial https://t.co/IGx1tOdj | Dec 19 18:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 18:21 |
| schestowitz | It's like Darwin Awards in Fast Motion | Dec 19 18:21 |
| schestowitz | By the way, one of our phd students hopes to prove darwin's theory of evolution with shape data | Dec 19 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Quest extends Unix Sudo tool (Reseller News): http://bit.ly/tEPKzH | Dec 19 18:23 | |
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| schestowitz | modeling 3d shapes and showing empirically the correlation between many animals | Dec 19 18:23 |
| schestowitz | I corrected his paper this month.. | Dec 19 18:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Siemens Ex-Execs Charged with 'Stunning' $100m Bribe Scheme (CFOworld): http://bit.ly/sgF8Yz | Dec 19 18:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Siemens Ex-Execs Charged with 'Stunning' $100m Bribe Scheme | CFOworld .::. Size~: 30.56 KB | Dec 19 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @WLLegal: Wow. Day after analyst said he found cables on Manning's computer, he admits they don't match the WikiLeaks cables http://t ... | Dec 19 18:31 | |
| schestowitz | "Yo uso LXDE y me encanta... :) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 | Dec 19 18:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft-Novell antitrust case ends in hung jury - Novell may refile (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/vOSBFK | Dec 19 18:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I know, I know. #caturday is over. But this collection of #catfail is too funny! Katzen scheitern http://ur1.ca/6uhee | Dec 19 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Future History of WikiLeaks - a short story by Lavie Tidhar https://t.co/btyWcQMN | Dec 19 18:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ maar, hoe bestel je dan pizza? | Dec 19 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: #woordvandedag fantoomgeluid. Dat is bijvoorbeeld je harde schijf horen ratelen als je computer even mo http://ur1. ... | Dec 19 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @maleadt @Tanfoglio_ @NtynMichiel @SjimiTweet @coreation @rubenslabbinck of stopmetstaken.be? | Dec 19 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] McGyver in trouble? This must be photoshopped. I mean, really. http://ur1.ca/6uhoa... http://b1t.it/afpY | Dec 19 18:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://ur1.ca/6uhps | Dec 19 18:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @OlivierMaes @jenssegers uitgesloten. | Dec 19 18:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @maleadt patrix.be | Dec 19 18:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @maleadt stoppenmetstaken.be - een parodie op stoppenmetroken | Dec 19 18:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Monday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 9.05 KB | Dec 19 18:51 |
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| MrF_ | hey roy | Dec 19 18:52 |
| schestowitz | "I'm mostly enjoying Wheezy and have a small review on the way. It's not ready for general use because of several bugs but there are many improvements over Squeeze that will make it a great release. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 | Dec 19 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | hey MrF_ | Dec 19 18:55 |
| schestowitz | [18:53] <schestowitz> was just about to phone you | Dec 19 18:55 |
| schestowitz | [18:53] <schestowitz> how was work | Dec 19 18:55 |
| schestowitz | [18:53] <schestowitz> ? | Dec 19 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Remember: work insecurity is good for the weathy | Dec 19 18:56 |
| schestowitz | They can overwork people without resistance | Dec 19 18:56 |
| schestowitz | unions are too scared to form | Dec 19 18:56 |
| schestowitz | and before you know it you take a train at 7am on a slowy day | Dec 19 18:56 |
| *schestowitz experiments with new plasma-desktop themes | Dec 19 18:58 | |
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| schestowitz | voice of reason has returned | Dec 19 18:59 |
| *MinceR chuckles | Dec 19 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | tell xface | Dec 19 18:59 |
| schestowitz | http://news.investors.com/Article/595170/201112191002/red-hat-Q3-profit-seen-rising-30.htm | Dec 19 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Q3 Growth May Depend On How Well It Has Weathered The Economic Downturn In Europe - Investors.com .::. Size~: 174.43 KB | Dec 19 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat's b ean counter left | Dec 19 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the results won't be fantastic | Dec 19 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Let's see.. | Dec 19 19:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.newsystocks.com/news/4108149 | Dec 19 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Earning Scan: OXBT, RHT, NWPX | NewsyStocks.com .::. Size~: 41.04 KB | Dec 19 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] MIT to Open Source Educational Software (PC World): http://bit.ly/si3oFn | Dec 19 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.benzinga.com/news/earnings/11/12/2214861/earnings-scheduled-for-december-19 http://www.benzinga.com/news/11/12/2214984/us-stock-futures-signal-higher-start-on-wall-street | Dec 19 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MIT to Open Source Educational Software | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 75.31 KB | Dec 19 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Earnings Scheduled For December 19 | Benzinga .::. Size~: 140.25 KB | Dec 19 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US Stock Futures Signal Higher Start On Wall Street | Benzinga .::. Size~: 143.02 KB | Dec 19 19:01 |
| schestowitz | What time are RHT's results? | Dec 19 19:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/red-hats-financial-results-on-tap-after-hours-2011-12-19?reflink=MW_news_stmp | Dec 19 19:02 |
| schestowitz | "Red Hat /quotes/zigman/208092/quotes/nls/rht RHT -3.15% is expected to report earnings of 26 cents a share, a jump of 30% from the third quarter a year ago, according to analysts polled by Factset Research. Revenue is expected to be 23% higher at $289.6 million. " | Dec 19 19:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat’s financial results on tap after hours - After Hours - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 108.39 KB | Dec 19 19:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Q3+Preview%3A+Red+Hat+(RHT)+Riding+High+on+Linux,+But+Challenges+Still+Linger/7030261.html | Dec 19 19:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: StreetInsider.com - Q3 Preview: Red Hat (RHT) Riding High on Linux, But Challenges Still Linger .::. Size~: 36.67 KB | Dec 19 19:02 |
| schestowitz | release at market close (4:30ET)? | Dec 19 19:02 |
| schestowitz | epic! https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1067332 | Dec 19 19:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Forensic Examiner Found No Match of Cables on Manning’s Laptop to WikiLeaks’ http://identi.ca/url/62829547 !eff | Dec 19 19:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Forensic Examiner Found No Match of Cables on Manning’s Laptop to WikiLeaks’ | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 59.4 KB | Dec 19 19:11 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: hey | Dec 19 19:12 |
| DiabloD3 | did you see that comment I made on HN? | Dec 19 19:12 |
| DiabloD3 | lol | Dec 19 19:12 |
| DiabloD3 | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3368539 | Dec 19 19:12 |
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| DiabloD3 | it seems shits back in my favor again | Dec 19 19:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] One Indian tries to revolutionize his country, one bloody period at a time http://identi.ca/url/62829751 !science | Dec 19 19:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: An Indian Inventor Disrupts The Period Industry | Co.Exist: World changing ideas and innovation .::. Size~: 58.05 KB | Dec 19 19:13 |
| beenz | Java is shit and now it's a gold mine thanks to android | Dec 19 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Robert Dionne and their donation to the !fsf -- http://ur1.ca/6r2hl http://ur1.ca/6p5ix !gnu !lp | Dec 19 19:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Support the Free Software Foundation - Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 11.47 KB | Dec 19 19:14 |
| beenz | I might dust off some old books and pick up an sdk | Dec 19 19:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thank GNUs 2011 - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 13.59 KB | Dec 19 19:14 |
| beenz | Plus 16 gb of ram | Dec 19 19:15 |
| beenz | Lol | Dec 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | "#openbox on #crunchbang is even faster in my experience. Crunchbang rocks. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 | Dec 19 19:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 19:17 |
| beenz | Forensic examiners wouldn't find a trace on my laptop either | Dec 19 19:19 |
| beenz | Pigs are idiots | Dec 19 19:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] London cops apologizes to photog shooting Armed Forces Day parade was told offense under the Terrorism Act http://identi.ca/url/62830060 | Dec 19 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Newt's Nudes: Renaissance paintings with Newt Gingrich's head http://identi.ca/url/62830161 | Dec 19 19:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: London cops apologise to young photographer who was told that shooting Armed Forces Day parade was "anti-social," "gay," "stupid" and an offense under the Terrorism Act - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.59 KB | Dec 19 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newt's Nudes: Renaissance paintings with Newt Gingrich's head - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.58 KB | Dec 19 19:19 |
| beenz | Www.dban.org | Dec 19 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] SOPA not the only battle; don't forget to help kill Protect-IP http://identi.ca/url/62830239 !eff | Dec 19 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Last look inside space shuttle Atlantis http://identi.ca/url/62830246 !science | Dec 19 19:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SOPA not the only battle; don't forget to help kill Protect-IP - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.22 KB | Dec 19 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last look inside space shuttle Atlantis - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.01 KB | Dec 19 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm reading http://goo.gl/nDUyt by @dmytri and wondering if he's treating all !CC as CC By-SA in this analysis? Oversimplification? | Dec 19 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @RobCottingham Published the #SOPA cartoon just after midnight to give it a @CreativeCommons license. owl.li/83xWH | Dec 19 19:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: <nettime> The Creative Commons is to Free Culture what Shareware is to F .::. Size~: 9.9 KB | Dec 19 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Reading http://goo.gl/nDUyt by @dmytri and wondering if he's treating all !CC as CC By-SA in this analysis, oversimplification? | Dec 19 19:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: <nettime> The Creative Commons is to Free Culture what Shareware is to F .::. Size~: 9.9 KB | Dec 19 19:28 |
| schestowitz | MrF_: do you know DiabloD3? | Dec 19 19:28 |
| iophk | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/time_oschoice_eu | Dec 19 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Time for OSchoice.eu? .::. Size~: 59.68 KB | Dec 19 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is kevie from identi.ca with 134 dents! | Dec 19 19:31 | |
| iophk | what's the lock-in called ? cross-"something" cross-marketing, cross-advertising, I've forgotten | Dec 19 19:31 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87326734 | Dec 19 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Rajit Vikram Singh (rajitsingh)'s status on Monday, 19-Dec-11 14:15:55 UTC - Identi.ca: Scared donating to WikiLeaks? Give a thought to CCR, Tor, I2p, EFF, Democracy Now, Globlal Witness this Xmas https://t.co/WE9D0tWq !FSF !GNU | Dec 19 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently | Dec 19 19:31 |
| schestowitz | bundling? | Dec 19 19:32 |
| iophk | It is bundling, but there was a work-around that m$ had to replace the illegal per-processor licensing. | Dec 19 19:33 |
| iophk | It started with "cross-" | Dec 19 19:33 |
| *jono has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Dec 19 19:33 | |
| iophk | I saw it just this afternoon, but cannot find the article in which it was mentioned. | Dec 19 19:33 |
| iophk | Anyway, the OSChoice idea would have to overcome that barrier, among others. | Dec 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz | does anyone here have a broiwser with webm support? | Dec 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Can you test http://techrights.org/2011/12/19/stallman-interview/ | Dec 19 19:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Richard Stallman Interview (Updated: WebM Version) | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.35 KB | Dec 19 19:35 |
| iophk | Firefox might but it does not run the video. Opera doesn't run it either. | Dec 19 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | i had the wrong url, can you retry? | Dec 19 19:39 |
| MinceR | seems to play in firefox 7 | Dec 19 19:40 |
| MinceR | with the flash plugin disabled | Dec 19 19:40 |
| schestowitz | the guy stallman spoke to acted like an attention-depraved child. No idea why he got a TV spot | Dec 19 19:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 "Would debian with something like LXDE be working nice on a really old (Win 98-generation) computer? Or is there anything recommendable for those?" | Dec 19 19:42 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: webm plays ok then>? | Dec 19 19:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 19:42 |
| schestowitz | embedded too? | Dec 19 19:42 |
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| *username is now known as Chips_B_Malroy | Dec 19 19:44 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all! | Dec 19 19:44 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: if the part after the "update ... webm" is webm, then apparently so | Dec 19 19:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It looks like Nokia's new WP7.5 phone is a failure | Dec 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | i've only tried it embedded | Dec 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | Chips_B_Malroy: duh :> | Dec 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: fullscreen works too | Dec 19 19:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/12/17/survey-so-far-europe-shuns-nokias-lumia/ | Dec 19 19:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Survey: So Far, Europe Shuns Nokia's Lumia - DailyFinance .::. Size~: 97.45 KB | Dec 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | also, Lumia means "whore" in spanish, iirc | Dec 19 19:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The brokerage cut end-user sales forecasts of the Microsoft (NAS: MSFT) Windows Phone-powered Nokia Lumia to just 800,000, significantly lower than its earlier "ballpark estimate" of 2 million sales, according to Reuters." | Dec 19 19:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Could this be the reason for Steve Ballmer to sideline Andy Lees the head of the Microsoft phone division? | Dec 19 19:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Or could it be that WP8 with most likely the NT arm kernel, is far behind release date? | Dec 19 19:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Either way, its not good news for MS shareholders. | Dec 19 19:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ""With only 2.2 per cent of surveyed buyers firmly intending to purchase the Lumia, Nokia's first flagship Windows Phone is ... far behind the current blockbusters, Apple's iPhone 4S and Samsung's Galaxy S II," wrote BNP Paribas analyst Alexander Peterc in a note to investors." | Dec 19 19:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Following this information, the French brokerage firm cut its price target on Nokia shares to 3.30 euros from 3.70 euros and retained its underperform rating on the stock." | Dec 19 19:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | This looks like failure for Nokia and MS. | Dec 19 19:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cool | Dec 19 19:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/12/leadership-change-could-herald-windows-8-powered-phones-whats-the-hurry.ars?comments=1#comments-bar | Dec 19 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Leadership change could herald Windows 8-powered phones; what's the hurry? .::. Size~: 95.44 KB | Dec 19 19:51 |
| schestowitz | no win10 yet? | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | c'mon, MOAR vapourware | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | c'mon!! | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | give it up | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | c'mon!! | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | I love | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | This | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | company | Dec 19 19:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Andy Lees, head of Microsoft's Windows Phone division for more than three years, has been moved by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer into a new "time-critical" role that somehow combines Windows Phone and Windows 8." | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | YEAH! | Dec 19 19:52 |
| iophk | *sweats in pools* | Dec 19 19:53 |
| cubezzz | I got for words for you :) | Dec 19 19:53 |
| cubezzz | four even | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | that's two | Dec 19 19:53 |
| cubezzz | I LOVE THIS COMPANY, YEARRRGGHHH | Dec 19 19:53 |
| cubezzz | :-P | Dec 19 19:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They cannot talk about WP8 with the maybe NT arm kernel yet as that would hurt the sales of released Nokia windows phone. | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | One Elop Per Child | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | They throw them from helicopters :-) | Dec 19 19:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And we can also question if WP8 is on time. Even the tablet version of Windows 8, will it be on time? | Dec 19 19:54 |
| schestowitz | it's down to litigation now | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft wants to make Android expensive | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Apple too participates | Dec 19 19:55 |
| cubezzz | I had a good look at windows 7 the other day | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | everything you know about IT is wrong | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft bought Nokia for patents | Dec 19 19:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "According to the e-mail, Lees will be reporting directly to Ballmer, working on a "time-critical opportunity focused on driving maximum impact in 2012 with Windows Phone and Windows 8." Just what this opportunity is is unclear." | Dec 19 19:55 |
| cubezzz | customer wanted it, go figure | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | IT is now code | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | it's patents | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | and litigation | Dec 19 19:55 |
| schestowitz | and sweaty CEOs without a technical degree | Dec 19 19:56 |
| schestowitz | "Intellectual property is the next software." http://www.newsweek.com/id/55777/page/2 | Dec 19 19:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FACTORY OF THE FUTURE? - The Daily Beast .::. Size~: 45.17 KB | Dec 19 19:56 |
| cubezzz | I'm not sure what my next OS will be | Dec 19 19:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | another guess to why Lees was sidelined by Ballmer is patents. After all, Barnes and Noble have gone after MS on anti-trust now. | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | try kororaa | Dec 19 19:57 |
| cubezzz | probably play around with Plan 8 over the holidays | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | its developers asked me yesterday if I used it | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | it's based on f16 | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | new release is days old | Dec 19 19:57 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, opensuse 12.1 didn't work very well on old hardware | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 "I don't know about LXDE on old hardware but Debian works very well on PIIIs and I have this example of a PII running" | Dec 19 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 19:58 |
| cubezzz | it's becoming a problem | Dec 19 19:58 |
| schestowitz | why did you even try it? | Dec 19 19:58 |
| schestowitz | and on old hw? | Dec 19 19:58 |
| cubezzz | it had KDE 3.5.10 and a new kernel | Dec 19 19:58 |
| cubezzz | Dell D610, not really that old even | Dec 19 19:58 |
| cubezzz | Pentium M cpu | Dec 19 19:58 |
| schestowitz | try debian minimal install | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | then work upwards from there with DEs | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | and see what you cope with | Dec 19 19:59 |
| cubezzz | I'll try any OS once :) | Dec 19 19:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I believe that Ballmer's plan to tax android/linux by extorting companies with frivolous patents is now backfiring, with anti-trust actions against them. Add in the massive failure of WP7/7.5 and the Nokia windows phones and this action starts to make some sense. Lees is the whipping boy for Ballmer, or scapegoat so he can keep his job a little longer. The real moment of truth for Ballmer will be with the release of W8. | Dec 19 19:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It is likely to be a release across all devices, arm and intel based. Arm tablets and maybe even arm phones (WP8 based on NT kernel). WP8 however might release at a later date, even though the arm tablet version will release with an NT kernel at the same time as the desktop W8 for intel based computers. A flop here again on arm tablets will be major for stockholders. Even how there are many comments about users hating | Dec 19 19:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the metro interface on W8 intel desktops. It could be another unwanted Vista like release as well. Again, the CE kernel in the current versions of windows phone do not support more than one cpu core. Going to an NT kernel in WP8 solves this problem and allows the cost of developing the CE kernel to go away. | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | ballmer is like a mafia don now | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | working for pearly gates | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | he surrounds himself with gang leaders | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | one of whom is HoiracioG | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | To attack competition | Dec 19 20:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I could be wrong on the CE kernel not supporting more than one core. But CE does not support security or real time monitoring. | Dec 19 20:00 |
| iophk | RICO | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | not to produce anything | Dec 19 20:00 |
| cubezzz | business is not a friendly thing :-/ | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | They also have groups they assign to attack OOo and Linux | Dec 19 20:00 |
| iophk | cubezzz: nor is it productive | Dec 19 20:00 |
| cubezzz | especially for big companies | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | they call them taskforces | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | or "Compete" | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | or "attack group" | Dec 19 20:00 |
| schestowitz | before the euphemism | Dec 19 20:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://betanews.com/2011/12/12/did-steve-ballmer-just-promote-or-demote-windows-phone-chief/ | Dec 19 20:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Did Steve Ballmer just promote or demote Windows Phone chief? .::. Size~: 33.75 KB | Dec 19 20:01 |
| schestowitz | microsogft phones? | Dec 19 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Why is this news? | Dec 19 20:01 |
| schestowitz | BB is more news than that | Dec 19 20:01 |
| cubezzz | I still have Debian Lenny, but I'm not sure about the newer Debian | Dec 19 20:01 |
| cubezzz | so I'm archiving all the old stuff | Dec 19 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's mobile platform is Androuid | Dec 19 20:02 |
| schestowitz | That's where its revenue comes from (extortion) | Dec 19 20:02 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: in-place upgrade...? | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | To: All Microsoft Employees | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | From: Steve Ballmer | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Subj: Leadership Next Steps ? Windows Phone | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | We are driving toward the end of the year with a lot of momentum and buzz, especially in the consumer arena. The new Xbox dashboard is being well received, Kinect and Xbox consoles set a record for Black Friday weekend sales, the Windows Store news from last week delighted developers and partners, Windows Phone 7.5 continues to win reviews, and the Nokia Lumia series has grabbed a ton of attention in Europe, creating | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | anticipation for availability in other geographies next year. | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | As I look at where we are, what we?ve done, and what we must do in the year ahead, I?m making two leadership changes to ensure we build on our momentum. First, I have asked Andy Lees to move to a new role working for me on a time-critical opportunity focused on driving maximum impact in 2012 with Windows Phone and Windows 8. We have tremendous potential with Windows Phone and Windows 8, and this move sets us up to really | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | deliver against that potential. | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Second, as Andy takes on these new challenges for the company, Terry Myerson will assume Andy?s existing responsibilities for leading the Windows Phone Division. As many of you know, Terry played a key and highly successful role working with Andy by leading the engineering work on Windows Phone 7 and 7.5. Terry will now be responsible for Windows Phone development, marketing, and other business functions. Because Terry has | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | been so integrally involved in our Windows Phone work already, I?m confident that he can make a seamless transition to this new and broader leadership responsibility. | Dec 19 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Both these changes take place immediately. | Dec 19 20:03 |
| schestowitz | "See here for a better and more recent demonstration http://173.17.111.185/photo_album/chron/2011/2011_09_04-thinkpad_600_squeeze/ " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 | Dec 19 20:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Dec 19 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Your Computer Can Still Do IT .::. Size~: 10.59 KB | Dec 19 20:03 |
| DiabloD3 | GODDAMNIT PASTE DUDE | Dec 19 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 20:03 |
| DiabloD3 | USE PASTEBIN | Dec 19 20:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | That was steve ballmers message | Dec 19 20:03 |
| DiabloD3 | I DONT CARE IF IT WAS GODS MESSAGE TO HUMANITY | Dec 19 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Lumia series has grabbed a ton of attention in Europe | Dec 19 20:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | notice the last line, effective immediately | Dec 19 20:03 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 19 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Lumia means whore | Dec 19 20:03 |
| schestowitz | sure she got attention | Dec 19 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | that's similar to the message he made when shooting nokia | Dec 19 20:04 |
| schestowitz | sending the trojan horse into it | Dec 19 20:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 'effective immediately' with sidelining sounds like Stevie B did not want to out and out fire Lees as that would admit to the world that Windows Phone is another Kin like disaster. | Dec 19 20:05 |
| schestowitz | to kill meego and other foss there, using the patents against linux rather than to protect Linux | Dec 19 20:05 |
| schestowitz | 'effective immediately' - tagline for steve's deodorant? Surely not. | Dec 19 20:05 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 19 20:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 "Alright :D I think that PC even has more "performance", I'll just try around a bit :)" | Dec 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: hey | Dec 19 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz | jono left when we mentioned Lumia | Dec 19 20:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I perfer the 'Balm" rather than 'effective immediately' as a new name for a deorderant | Dec 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz | !google Lumia in spanish | Dec 19 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Technolog - Nokia's Lumia translates as 'prostitute' in Spanish | http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/26/8491410-nokias-lumia-translates-as-prostitute-in-spanish | Dec 19 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - lumia - Spanish-English Translation and Pronunciation - Yahoo ... | http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dict_en_es/spanish/lumia | Dec 19 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Nokia's Lumia means, um, 'prostitute' in Spanish | Technically ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20125899-71/nokias-lumia-means-um-prostitute-in-spanish/ | Dec 19 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - lumia - English Translation - Word Magic Spanish-English Dictionary | http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/lumia.php | Dec 19 20:06 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, the classiccmp folks are suggesting gentoo | Dec 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Microsoft will PAY people to use those phones | Dec 19 20:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | all the paid PR that MS and Elop can come up with for the Lumia, will not save it. In fact the one thing that is missing is actually sales figures to the end users. This was also the case with the Kin. | Dec 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Loo-mia | Dec 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | down with the KIN | Dec 19 20:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Windows Phone is a complete sales flop. And WP8 would seem to be in trouble, as per the Lees sidelining (most likely a firing). | Dec 19 20:09 |
| iophk | The Nokia Windows phone was never started to make a success of the phone, it was to kill off Nokia's linux divisions and scatter the engineers to the four winds. | Dec 19 20:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | If WP8 fails, and W8 on arm tablets fails, will Steve Ballmer go too? | Dec 19 20:10 |
| iophk | From that perspective it's been a success. Without it, there would have been at least two more models of linux-based smartphones on the market by now. | Dec 19 20:10 |
| schestowitz | no, kep Ballmer | Dec 19 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Let Fester stay | Dec 19 20:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I agree | Dec 19 20:11 |
| schestowitz | he sinks the ship faster... obese | Dec 19 20:11 |
| schestowitz | and dumb | Dec 19 20:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just for the entertainment value as well | Dec 19 20:11 |
| iophk | I find him unamusing. | Dec 19 20:11 |
| schestowitz | it would be a shame to see it go down with surrogate leadership | Dec 19 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Youn want to see the real crooks seeing their end of days | Dec 19 20:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we will not see that | Dec 19 20:12 |
| schestowitz | maybe Ballmer will find a career as Monsanto enforcer later | Dec 19 20:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but at least to see MS lose its monopoly will be something | Dec 19 20:12 |
| schestowitz | it already has | Dec 19 20:12 |
| schestowitz | total OSes | Dec 19 20:12 |
| schestowitz | in new form factors | Dec 19 20:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not quite | Dec 19 20:12 |
| schestowitz | and servers | Dec 19 20:13 |
| schestowitz | it's ol' desktops that I still see their icons a lot on | Dec 19 20:13 |
| schestowitz | office suites is one monopoly | Dec 19 20:13 |
| schestowitz | they lose the browser monopoly.. nearly | Dec 19 20:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer must be fearing the anti-trust case now from Barnes and Noble. Also the failure of windows phone in general to replace Lees. | Dec 19 20:14 |
| schestowitz | when they lose the office monopoy, there won't be a reason to use Windows much... in biz and govt | Dec 19 20:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, if Windows is not dominant, Office is the top card on the house of cards. | Dec 19 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Reshuffling chairs at deck of the Titanic | Dec 19 20:14 |
| schestowitz | !google microsof loss mobile unit | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft lost mobile market share in last quarter - Neowin.net | http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-phone-lost-market-share-in-last-quarter | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Danger Hiptop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Hiptop | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft's online sinkhole: $8.5 billion lost in 9 years | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/microsofts-online-sinkhole-85-billion-lost-in-9-years/52989 | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Mobile stats: Microsoft lost more than half its U.S. market share in ... | http://www.geekwire.com/2011/mobile-stats-microsoft-loses-market-share-1-year | Dec 19 20:15 |
| schestowitz | !google microsof loss online unit | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft's online sinkhole: $8.5 billion lost in 9 years | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/microsofts-online-sinkhole-85-billion-lost-in-9-years/52989 | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft's lost eight years online: More than $6 billion down the ... | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/microsofts-lost-eight-years-online-more-than-6-billion-down-the-tubes/37988 | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft Reports Record Revenue on Earnings Call, but Online Still ... | http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/microsoft-sets-quarterly-revenue-record-online-lags-133597 | Dec 19 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft Showed Two Different Financial Pictures: one good one bad | http://www.windows7news.com/2011/07/21/microsoft-two-financial-pictures/ | Dec 19 20:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | too late, Captain Ballmer already hit the iceburg | Dec 19 20:15 |
| schestowitz | is iceburg in Eat Europe? | Dec 19 20:15 |
| schestowitz | East | Dec 19 20:15 |
| schestowitz | !google Icebourg | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - User:Icebourg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Icebourg | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - icebourg's Profile - GitHub | https://github.com/icebourg | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Can't Stop Fanatics: (n)ice bourg | http://cantstopfanatics.blogspot.com/2011/06/nice-bourg.html | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - the icebourg cometh | http://cometh.pixeldustr.com/page/2 | Dec 19 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | !google Chips_B_Malroy | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft Staff is on the Ejection Seat (or on Slow Boat to China ... | http://techrights.org/2011/02/25/workforce-of-microsoft/ | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: June 1st, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/irc-log-techrights-01062011.html | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 2011 February 25 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/02/25/ | Dec 19 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Only a month on and the Kin is discounted? « OpenBytes | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/only-a-month-on-and-the-kin-is-discounted/ | Dec 19 20:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The sidelining of Andy Lees is important, as it shows that Microsoft continues to fail in both Windows Phone and on the patent/anti-trust front. Ballmer's (or was it Lees?) stategy of sueing Android useing companies is now coming back to bite MS. | Dec 19 20:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Andy Lees is now the next of Kin | Dec 19 20:18 |
| schestowitz | btw | Dec 19 20:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe you can help me find out if Google helps B&N | Dec 19 20:19 |
| schestowitz | It said it would help patent cases | Dec 19 20:19 |
| DiabloD3 | you know what | Dec 19 20:19 |
| DiabloD3 | fuck microsoft | Dec 19 20:19 |
| DiabloD3 | why the fuck do any of you losers keep bringing it up | Dec 19 20:19 |
| schestowitz | but I saw no evidence of it backing B&N behind the scenes and grabbing this change to kick Horacio and Steve in the groin | Dec 19 20:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Will the hammer now come out and break Microsoft into little pieces? Anti-trust action due to Ballmer's ignorance and greed. | Dec 19 20:19 |
| DiabloD3 | microsoft isnt even fun to make fun of anymore | Dec 19 20:19 |
| DiabloD3 | just let it die already | Dec 19 20:19 |
| schestowitz | true to an extent | Dec 19 20:20 |
| schestowitz | but it's not over yet | Dec 19 20:20 |
| schestowitz | bring over the onions | Dec 19 20:20 |
| schestowitz | and dagger | Dec 19 20:20 |
| schestowitz | thids vampire ain't gone till it's sunshine | Dec 19 20:20 |
| iophk | That would be garlic and a wooden stake. | Dec 19 20:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its not over till they lose drastic desktop market share and cannot strongarm OEM's | Dec 19 20:20 |
| schestowitz | iophk: Oh, I remembered it visually | Dec 19 20:21 |
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| schestowitz | I have a post about the OEM thing tomorrow | Dec 19 20:21 |
| schestowitz | jono has gone to Dell | Dec 19 20:21 |
| schestowitz | to whack them with a wet fish | Dec 19 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "buntu buntu buntu!"| | Dec 19 20:21 |
| iophk | Time for an OS Choice ballot for OEMs allowing among other choices Ubuntu or Red Hat. | Dec 19 20:22 |
| iophk | What's the problem with Dell this week? | Dec 19 20:22 |
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| schestowitz | Del does not matter as much | Dec 19 20:22 |
| schestowitz | it has rivalry from Apple | Dec 19 20:22 |
| schestowitz | HP decided to call it quits under Leo | Dec 19 20:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, Andy Lees is the Windows Phone story. But the Nokia and anti-trust story has to fit into this as to why he was sidelined. Its a story of massive Nokia/Microsoft failure. | Dec 19 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'll reverse this | Dec 19 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Acer, Foxconn, ASUS come up with devices | Dec 19 20:23 |
| schestowitz | !google dell axes netbooks | Dec 19 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Dell axes netbooks to focus on ultrabooks instead - SlashGear | http://www.slashgear.com/dell-axes-netbooks-to-focus-on-ultrabooks-instead-16202845/ | Dec 19 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Dell axes consumer netbooks - 16 Dec 2011 - CRN UK News | http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/2133468/dell-axes-consumer-netbooks | Dec 19 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Dell axes netbooks to focus on ultrabooks instead – SlashGear | http://www.breakinnewsnow.com/dell-axes-netbooks-to-focus-on-ultrabooks-instead-slashgear/141480 | Dec 19 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Dell Axes Inspiron Mini Netbooks For Ultrabooks | TechWeekEurope ... | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/dell-axes-inspiron-mini-netbooks-for-ultrabooks-50212 | Dec 19 20:23 |
| schestowitz | That was in the news over the weekend | Dec 19 20:23 |
| DiabloD3 | [03:19:46] <schestowitz> bring over the onions | Dec 19 20:23 |
| DiabloD3 | [03:19:48] <schestowitz> and dagger | Dec 19 20:23 |
| DiabloD3 | [03:20:05] <schestowitz> thids vampire ain't gone till it's sunshine | Dec 19 20:23 |
| DiabloD3 | [03:20:05] <iophk> That would be garlic and a wooden stake. | Dec 19 20:23 |
| DiabloD3 | you suck. | Dec 19 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: but what angle of it was not covered? | Dec 19 20:23 |
| schestowitz | it's taken for franted now that windows 'phones' are a sordid mess | Dec 19 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft hardly even pretends the contrary anymore | Dec 19 20:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, but the spin is still Lumia is selling good | Dec 19 20:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that Nokia will save wp | Dec 19 20:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is not happening | Dec 19 20:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | watch Nokia, as something has to happen soon there | Dec 19 20:25 |
| schestowitz | it's not competitive | Dec 19 20:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Dec 19 20:25 |
| schestowitz | The logo is not enough to have it on shelves | Dec 19 20:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it has to be sold off | Dec 19 20:25 |
| schestowitz | it'll be shelved... along with dead products | Dec 19 20:25 |
| iophk | The stockholders still have not had their say on Nokia heard fully yet. | Dec 19 20:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its probably too late to fire Elop to save Nokia | Dec 19 20:26 |
| schestowitz | !google nokia patent apple | Dec 19 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Nokia Wins Apple Patent-License Deal Cash, Settles Lawsuits ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-14/nokia-apple-payments-to-nokia-settle-all-litigation.html | Dec 19 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Nokia patent settlement a 'sweet defeat' for Apple - Apple 2.0 ... | http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/14/nokia-patent-settlement-a-sweet-defeat-for-apple/ | Dec 19 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Apple and Nokia patent dispute ends with license agreement, Apple ... | http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/14/nokia-and-apple-end-patent-litigation/ | Dec 19 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent licensing fees | Apple - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20070970-37/apple-agrees-to-pay-nokia-patent-licensing-fees/ | Dec 19 20:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.t3.com/news/apple-licenses-patented-technology-to-nokia-and-ibm | Dec 19 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple licenses patented technology to Nokia and IBM | T3 .::. Size~: 103.34 KB | Dec 19 20:26 |
| schestowitz | They just use Nokia to bang on Android now | Dec 19 20:26 |
| iophk | The damage is done. Firing Elop would be just a drop in the bucket. | Dec 19 20:26 |
| iophk | Bang on Android via Nokia's patents. | Dec 19 20:26 |
| iophk | gtg | Dec 19 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | !google google drummond apple and microsoft bedyou have to wonder | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Sheila Jo Lewallen | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/sjlewallen | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Mariah Ginop | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/mariah.ginop | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Oliver James Louis Sparkes | Facebook | http://en-gb.facebook.com/ojlsparkes | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - a moon, worn as if it had been a shell: July 2009 | http://elizabethaquino.blogspot.com/2009_07_01_archive.html | Dec 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz | !google google apple and microsoft bed you have to wonder | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Official Google Blog: When patents attack Android | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/when-patents-attack-android.html | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google claims Microsoft and Apple are partners in a patent war ... | http://www.winrumors.com/google-claims-microsoft-and-apple-are-partners-in-a-patent-war-against-android/ | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Google: Apple, Microsoft Waging 'Hostile, Organized' Patent Battle ... | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2390394,00.asp | Dec 19 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google: Microsoft, Apple have jumped 'into bed together' in patent ... | http://zunited.net/2011/08/google-microsoft-apple-have-jumped-into-bed-together-in-patent-war-against-android/ | Dec 19 20:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer fears the anti-trust case. He does not greatly fear the othe court cases, as they can drag on for many years while the patent extortion goes on. Just look at M$ pawn SCO. How long has that gone on? | Dec 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz | 8.5 years | Dec 19 20:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Anti-Trust case will trump patent cases | Dec 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz | after 4 years SCO declared chapter 11 | Dec 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz | and yet the case is still going | Dec 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz | antitrust doesn't work | Dec 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz | it's the world of corporations | Dec 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Google needs allies to buy more politicians | Dec 19 20:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | perhaps, but nothing is ever completely certain in court | Dec 19 20:30 |
| schestowitz | They all just play politicians against one another, and the same for patents | Dec 19 20:30 |
| schestowitz | It's all a corrupt, crooked game | Dec 19 20:30 |
| schestowitz | IT is f*ed | Dec 19 20:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, mostly you are right | Dec 19 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Might as well do with carlin does | Dec 19 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but it will cause major headaches for MS | Dec 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Sit back and enjoy the freak show | Dec 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Get the front seat by watching Ballmer's gang | Dec 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz | and talk/write about it | Dec 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz | To let people see how messed up things have become | Dec 19 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Next year will be Ballmer's last as CEO | Dec 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Where high paying jobs are MBAs and lawyers who speak nonsense and manipulate everything | Dec 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz | And technical workers become more expandable and obsolete, overworked, mistreated | Dec 19 20:32 |
| beenz | Patent world war 1 | Dec 19 20:32 |
| beenz | All we need is the black hand | Dec 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz | milton friendman can bring an invisible one | Dec 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz | he is here | Dec 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz | dressed up as one | Dec 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz | FSF ascends to more political agenda | Dec 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz | That's; where real solutions can come from | Dec 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | The Russia Today interview became far more political than planned | Dec 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | and RMS explained how it's tied together | Dec 19 20:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, you have covered most of this Andy Lees story before, but not in a way that ties it clearly togeather like this. This shows clearly how bad Windows Phone is failing when Baller replaces the guy running Windows Phone. | Dec 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | He spoke about the empire of corporations and dismissed that Friedman-type crap and the stuff RT does not promote like CNN | Dec 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Real News Network is also departing from the silly left vs right game that CBS, Fox, CNN etc. are peddling | Dec 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz | "Not happy? Vote for the other party? Not happy with the leftist TV channel? Move to the right-wing one... see? CHOICE!" | Dec 19 20:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the only candidate that the corporations do not seem to control is Ron Paul | Dec 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | and gthus he gets nowhere | Dec 19 20:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most likely that is correct | Dec 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | a system run by corporation cannot have him. He's not compatible with the game. | Dec 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | But he also has some poor views on Creationism, abortion, etc. | Dec 19 20:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yep, not perfect eiterh | Dec 19 20:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *either | Dec 19 20:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS and Nokia are pushing PR very hard that Lumia is selling fast. Its needs a reality check that it is a failure. | Dec 19 20:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP7 has been out now for a year. A year of failure. | Dec 19 20:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | An "empire of corporations." But its really the 1% of the 1% behind the corporations, or even the hedge funds controlling those corporations that are the real power. Mostly they are called billionares. | Dec 19 20:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Gates is only one of them. | Dec 19 20:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The real money is in milking a country dry. Just look at some of the arab spring countries. Their leaders were richer that Gates. | Dec 19 20:43 |
| MrF_ | hey roy | Dec 19 20:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *than | Dec 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | hey MrF_ | Dec 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: but were they really? | Dec 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I once heard this and made the claim, but backing it is hard | Dec 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I think the wealth gets spread around big families, so they cannot make Forbes list | Dec 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Rothschild and Rockefeller are dynasties now and now just one rich person | Dec 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz | *now just -> not just | Dec 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/forteller/statuses/148816582087409664 | Dec 19 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @forteller: RT @schestowitz: Saudi Prince Pumps $300 Million Into Twitter http://t.co/EImSLiiN Bill's mate | Dec 19 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 19 20:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah, but foundations live on | Dec 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz | they're groupthink | Dec 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz | joined agenda, runs in the blood | Dec 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz | joint | Dec 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz | in tribute/memory of grand[*]pa | Dec 19 20:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | foundations are really a corporation in desguide | Dec 19 20:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sorry for the spelling | Dec 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz | tax exampt | Dec 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz | They motor corporations | Dec 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | They don't hide which ones | Dec 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | And they also can run political structures | Dec 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Which are part of the same system | Dec 19 20:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | foundation=money laundering | Dec 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | legalised | Dec 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | so we can;'t get prosecution | Dec 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | made legal by those in charge. Fox and hen... | Dec 19 20:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but not moral as most of the population is out of work | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | it's legal to drink champagne, but not to smoke a plant | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | or even made cookies from it | Dec 19 20:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and the rich get richer without paying taxes | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | that's "poor man's" drug | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | the rich like this economy | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | it's scary | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | but good for them | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | they can pay less to people | Dec 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | and have them work harder | Dec 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | work insecurity does that | Dec 19 20:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | because they are turning all of into slaves with their monopolies | Dec 19 20:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | us | Dec 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | wages may be going down in Europe now, along with inflation going the oppoosite way | Dec 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Arab spring was partly motivated by food price | Dec 19 20:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Dec 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Which hedge funds gambles on for profit | Dec 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | When people are hungry they don't mind stoning a cop | Dec 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [or a politician] | Dec 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | in the radio this morning I herad UK coppes are not trained in suppression of riots | Dec 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | They said on the radio they were ill prepared | Dec 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | which is BS | Dec 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | It's them trying to find a cure | Dec 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Rather than prevention | Dec 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | "Sigmund, ze the population is revolting. Vat shall ve do?" | Dec 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz | option one: shoot them | Dec 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz | option two: find out why they revolt | Dec 19 20:52 |
| beenz | Option three: shoot first, ask questions later, then chill at dunkin donuts | Dec 19 20:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | wait till after the election, and see how well OWS is tolerated then | Dec 19 20:54 |
| beenz | they just be electing the same scum they had in power before | Dec 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz | rms says the senate has just passed some law that permits detaining us citizens in gitmo at mere allegation | Dec 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz | I guess those fema camps might be an even shorter trip | Dec 19 20:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is right | Dec 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz | !google us detains japenese mixed lyalty | Dec 19 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Japanese camps in California | http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p-45_Weber.html | Dec 19 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Japanese American internment - New World Encyclopedia | http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Japanese_American_internment | Dec 19 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - List of concentration and internment camps - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps | Dec 19 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Reading: Prelude to Incarceration | http://www.densho.org/learning/spice/lesson3/3reading3.asp | Dec 19 20:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what happened to Obama getting rid of the Patriot Act? | Dec 19 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Obama is a patriot | Dec 19 20:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Obama=corporate left | Dec 19 20:56 |
| schestowitz | He won't get rid of the patriot act | Dec 19 20:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he had his chance to | Dec 19 20:56 |
| beenz | That's why the FEMA camp episode of conspiracy theory with Jesse ventura was pulled off the air | Dec 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz | England leads in #/locations of concentration camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps#United_Kingdom | Dec 19 20:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: List of concentration and internment camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 268.01 KB | Dec 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Watch the size of the list | Dec 19 20:57 |
| beenz | What's with Obama pardoning bush | Dec 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz | "Under this order all Japanese and Americans of Japanese ancestry were removed from Western coastal regions to concentration camps in Arkansas, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming, Colorado and Arizona; German and Italian citizens, permanent residents, and American citizens of those respective ancestries (and American citizen family members) were removed from (among other places) the West and East Coast and relocated or interned, and roughly | Dec 19 20:58 |
| schestowitz | one-third of the US was declared an exclusionary zone." | Dec 19 20:58 |
| beenz | Why is bush senior a father figure to Clinton | Dec 19 20:58 |
| beenz | Sounds like the GDI | Dec 19 20:58 |
| beenz | Yellow zones | Dec 19 20:59 |
| beenz | Blue zones | Dec 19 20:59 |
| beenz | Red zones | Dec 19 20:59 |
| beenz | Free speech zones | Dec 19 20:59 |
| MinceR | no constitution zone | Dec 19 20:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but we were at war then, | Dec 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz | We have always been in war with eurasia | Dec 19 20:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not excusing it, just pointing out that today is different in a way | Dec 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz | the USS still has a "war" in iraw | Dec 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz | invasion euphemised | Dec 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz | "I'm a wartime president!" | Dec 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz | !google bill hicks on bush gulf war | Dec 19 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Hicks- On Gulf War I & George H.W. Bush - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9YlyY1pcvQQ | Dec 19 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Comedian Bill Hicks on the Persian Gulf War - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DF3trp5MkEhM | Dec 19 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Hicks - War In Iraq - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Du4CQ_1GWn4w | Dec 19 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Hicks on the first Gulf War « Gavin's Blog | http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/12/30/bill-hicks-on-the-first-gulf-war/ | Dec 19 21:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we have many wars going that most people do not know about | Dec 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz | some are civil | Dec 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz | like OWS | Dec 19 21:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not to mention drones in many countries | Dec 19 21:01 |
| MinceR | i thought they made a big show of moving out of iraq recently | Dec 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz | and some are not just class wars | Dec 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz | information wars too | Dec 19 21:01 |
| MinceR | then again, it's obama at the wheel... | Dec 19 21:01 |
| MinceR | the guy who promised to close guantanamo | Dec 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they'll reuse the old material | Dec 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz | take off the N | Dec 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz | put it where the Q was | Dec 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz | repeat the same algo | Dec 19 21:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz | "Iran has WoMD..." | Dec 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz | yada yada | Dec 19 21:02 |
| MinceR | they should get one of those church signs with movable letters, then | Dec 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz | they can reuse that nice "mission accomplished" banned | Dec 19 21:02 |
| beenz | Won't Obama be mad at you schestowitz ? | Dec 19 21:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so far only Paul has said he does not support a war with Iran. Obama maybe. | Dec 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz | and show us manslaheter on TV like it's a fireworks show they call "shock and awe" | Dec 19 21:02 |
| MinceR | beenz: he will, if that's the command he gets from the megacorporations | Dec 19 21:03 |
| beenz | They wrote you a nice letter and everything | Dec 19 21:03 |
| beenz | Obama and Michelle | Dec 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "Look, darling, it's like 4th of July and it's in Iraq... enjoy the flares.... it's photographed from afar, so we can't see those kids heads bouncing off the ground" | Dec 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz | beenz: lol | Dec 19 21:04 |
| schestowitz | !google lunch with michelle techrights | Dec 19 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 2011 July 06 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/07/06/ | Dec 19 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 2011 July 14 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/07/14/ | Dec 19 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Cablegate | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/cablegate/ | Dec 19 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: December 7th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/irc-log-techrights-07122011.html | Dec 19 21:04 |
| schestowitz | hang on | Dec 19 21:04 |
| schestowitz | oh, it was breakfast | Dec 19 21:05 |
| schestowitz | michelle for SALE http://techrights.org/2009/01/07/microsoft-lobbyists-for-obama/ | Dec 19 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Lobbyists Raised Money for Obama Campaign | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.33 KB | Dec 19 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Bama is pimping is wife for campaign $$ | Dec 19 21:05 |
| beenz | Lol | Dec 19 21:05 |
| beenz | He is pretty pimp yo | Dec 19 21:05 |
| beenz | She's probably pimping him out | Dec 19 21:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | on another subject. My wifes sister-in-law bought a cheap $79 7" android 2.2 tablet at either Kmart or Big Lots on sale. seeing a lot more of this now. Microsoft is in trouble | Dec 19 21:08 |
| beenz | I bet she wears the pants | Dec 19 21:09 |
| beenz | Dude | Dec 19 21:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Bama still is the best choice so far | Dec 19 21:09 |
| *jono has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Dec 19 21:09 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is sad | Dec 19 21:09 |
| beenz | There is a MIPS one that runs ice cream sandwich | Dec 19 21:09 |
| DiabloD3 | Bama is the only choice | Dec 19 21:09 |
| DiabloD3 | the GOP refuses to field a viable candidate | Dec 19 21:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, Paul maybe | Dec 19 21:10 |
| schestowitz | the GOP can produce a femakle conidtae | Dec 19 21:10 |
| beenz | Ron Paul is God | Dec 19 21:10 |
| schestowitz | beholden to the corporations | Dec 19 21:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the others the GOP puts up are really terrible | Dec 19 21:10 |
| DiabloD3 | no no no | Dec 19 21:10 |
| DiabloD3 | see | Dec 19 21:10 |
| DiabloD3 | me, you, and you | Dec 19 21:10 |
| DiabloD3 | we like ron paul | Dec 19 21:10 |
| beenz | Sarah palin | Dec 19 21:10 |
| schestowitz | then she gets elected... then they have a gay one elected and they can claim their cronies represent ALL THe people... as long as threy believe in 'God' | Dec 19 21:10 |
| DiabloD3 | but the GOP refuses to back Ron Paul | Dec 19 21:10 |
| DiabloD3 | ergo | Dec 19 21:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Dec 19 21:11 |
| DiabloD3 | the GOP refuses to field a viable candidate | Dec 19 21:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | agreed | Dec 19 21:11 |
| beenz | Fuck the GOP | Dec 19 21:11 |
| schestowitz | they should be called OGP | Dec 19 21:11 |
| schestowitz | for mcCain | Dec 19 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Old Grandpa's Party | Dec 19 21:12 |
| beenz | You know how many Sarah palin fake porn sites popped up last elxn | Dec 19 21:12 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: its already granny-fucking old party | Dec 19 21:12 |
| DiabloD3 | what more do you want | Dec 19 21:12 |
| DiabloD3 | beenz: Im still waiting for fake mrs obama porn | Dec 19 21:12 |
| DiabloD3 | beenz: btw, you're cofnused | Dec 19 21:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the sisterinlaw bought that tablet on her own, without ever knowing anything about it. we helped her and showed her how to setup the wireless, which was easy. She got her facebook email ok, which is all she wanted a computer for. | Dec 19 21:12 |
| DiabloD3 | it wasnt fake palin _sites_ | Dec 19 21:12 |
| DiabloD3 | its a whole DVD. | Dec 19 21:12 |
| DiabloD3 | they found a porn actress that sorta looks like her and can pull the whole "welp, aint that a dick, *wink wink*"" thing | Dec 19 21:13 |
| beenz | Android 2 is two generations old | Dec 19 21:14 |
| DiabloD3 | beenz: er no | Dec 19 21:15 |
| beenz | Ice cream is 4 | Dec 19 21:15 |
| DiabloD3 | android suffers from version bloating | Dec 19 21:15 |
| beenz | 3 was proprietary for like a year | Dec 19 21:15 |
| beenz | We got the code when 4 came out | Dec 19 21:16 |
| DiabloD3 | it goes 4.0, 3.2, 3.1, 3.0, 2.3, 2.2, 2.1 etc | Dec 19 21:16 |
| DiabloD3 | so 2.2 is 5 versions behind ;) | Dec 19 21:16 |
| beenz | Yea | Dec 19 21:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Android 2.2 And its a price thing. $79 at the local store. Try buying a windows computer for that. It causes impulse buying. | Dec 19 21:16 |
| DiabloD3 | although that means squat shit | Dec 19 21:16 |
| DiabloD3 | its android | Dec 19 21:16 |
| DiabloD3 | put your own fucking android on it | Dec 19 21:16 |
| beenz | 3 had major upgrades | Dec 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz | some people I meet these days have no PC | Dec 19 21:17 |
| DiabloD3 | Chips_B_Malroy: thats about as expensive as the kindle fire | Dec 19 21:17 |
| schestowitz | THey use their phone only | Dec 19 21:17 |
| DiabloD3 | beenz: no, android major versions mean squat shit | Dec 19 21:17 |
| schestowitz | they also have no landline and broadband, they use cellular | Dec 19 21:17 |
| DiabloD3 | 4.0 is barely different than what was supposed to be 3.3 | Dec 19 21:17 |
| beenz | The pc is dead in 10 years | Dec 19 21:17 |
| schestowitz | why 10? | Dec 19 21:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | perhaps not | Dec 19 21:17 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: yeah, but they get no work done | Dec 19 21:17 |
| schestowitz | is it overnight? | Dec 19 21:17 |
| DiabloD3 | also, the PC is a misnomer | Dec 19 21:17 |
| schestowitz | DiabloD3: which is good for me | Dec 19 21:17 |
| schestowitz | it puts them behind in society | Dec 19 21:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but maybe MS will lose half its desktop share in 2 to 3 years | Dec 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz | let them compose email with one thumb | Dec 19 21:18 |
| beenz | The desktop I mean | Dec 19 21:18 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: well yeah, I wouldnt mind carrying an iphone-alike just for the web browser if I could do it for $10/mo. | Dec 19 21:18 |
| DiabloD3 | but not for $85/mo, fuck no | Dec 19 21:18 |
| DiabloD3 | fuck cell phones at that price | Dec 19 21:18 |
| DiabloD3 | Chips_B_Malroy: yeah, but you have to ask yourself "what is a desktop" | Dec 19 21:18 |
| DiabloD3 | Im not sure if windows particularly qualifies as being called one | Dec 19 21:18 |
| DiabloD3 | maybe 10 years ago it did | Dec 19 21:19 |
| beenz | Cell phones track people too | Dec 19 21:19 |
| DiabloD3 | but no one ships desktops that featureless | Dec 19 21:19 |
| DiabloD3 | beenz: so what? | Dec 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | one thumb up facebook's botton ('like' button), another on some crappy input method for text on palm-szied device | Dec 19 21:19 |
| zoobab | hi | Dec 19 21:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Cannot help to think that part of the move to other form factors from PC's is the reaction to Windows problems like crashes and malware. | Dec 19 21:19 |
| DiabloD3 | the FBI can call me any day of the week and ask me where I am and I will honestly answer. | Dec 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: hey | Dec 19 21:19 |
| beenz | I had pigs harass me over a google search | Dec 19 21:20 |
| zoobab | tomorrow is big vote on patents | Dec 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz | beenz: pigs is synonym for cops where you are? | Dec 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | I thought PIGS was Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain | Dec 19 21:22 |
| beenz | Yes | Dec 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | That's what MrF_ calls the bankrupt states | Dec 19 21:22 |
| beenz | Pigs are cops | Dec 19 21:23 |
| beenz | The code when cops are nearby is "something smells like bacon" | Dec 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz | just in http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20111219006303/en/Red-Hat-Reports-Quarter-Results | Dec 19 21:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Reports Third Quarter Results | Business Wire .::. Size~: 278.61 KB | Dec 19 21:25 |
| beenz | They are also pigs in duke nukes | Dec 19 21:25 |
| beenz | Nukem | Dec 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.benzinga.com/news/earnings/11/12/2217115/red-hat-plummets-following-q3-earnings-release | Dec 19 21:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Plummets Following Q3 Earnings Release | Benzinga .::. Size~: 141.73 KB | Dec 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201112191613rttraderusequity_0930&title=red-hat-q3-profit-rises-quick-facts | Dec 19 21:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Q3 Profit Rises - Quick Facts .::. Size~: 69.33 KB | Dec 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | "Total subscription, training and services revenue for the quarter rose to $290.03 million from $235.58 million in the prior year quarter. Twenty two analysts had consensus revenue estimate of $289.62 million for the quarter." | Dec 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:25] <beenz> They are also pigs in duke nukes | Dec 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | not pigs per se | Dec 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz | pig faces | Dec 19 21:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, you know MS and Nokia know the actual sales figures for the Lumia and are not saying. They only say it is good. If it were good they would be bragging about numbers. | Dec 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz | http://dukenukem.wikia.com/wiki/Pig_Cop | Dec 19 21:27 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | anyway, I must run. keep up the good work | Dec 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.com/search?q=pig+face+duke+nukem&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=CqzvTtrFLsWg8gOx-bH9CQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1728&bih=973 | Dec 19 21:28 |
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| beenz | They were pig alien cops | Dec 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz | duke was fun because of the jetpack | Dec 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz | I didn't play it as much as I played doom 1 and 2 | Dec 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz | duke had some nudity (ish) in level 1 | Dec 19 21:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @mvdan I have been accepted as an intern at the !FSF next summer. I am so excited! Thank you @mattl for your great support. | Dec 19 21:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] If SOPA passes... ur1.ca/6ujzw #Futurama !memes !lol | Dec 19 21:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !jabberes .org down! [nooo] /cc @naw xD | Dec 19 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] how ironic - and iconic. old cartoon on freedoms and "isms" ur1.ca/6ulc4 | Dec 19 22:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Delaware Judge Approves $285 Million in Lawyers’ Fees http://ping.fm/ekHLK | Dec 19 22:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Law Professors on #SOPA and #PIPA: "Don't break the Internet!" ur1.ca/6uleq | Dec 19 22:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Users voted for best !XFCE-based Linux distribution - Linux notes from DarkDuck http://goo.gl/s45qC | Dec 19 22:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !LXDE and !Xfce – the other desktops - The H http://goo.gl/X6xSF | Dec 19 22:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Listening to a Webcast of the Red Hat earnings call can only be done through IE | Dec 19 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh so true! ur1.ca/6ulto !lol | Dec 19 22:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I am getting seriously pissed off at !Mozilla !Firefox newfangled "no http://" address bar. I WANT THE HTTP:// WHY HIDE IT?! | Dec 19 22:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] so far my switch to Midori has had more crashes than I had hoped. Now I am on Midori 0.4.3-4 from git and I lack nice gtk3 themes | Dec 19 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Defensive .XXX Registration Is Only the Beginning of a Branding Nightmare - http://on.mash.to/vMyPBK just as I and everyone predicted | Dec 19 22:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AT&T admits defeat on T-Mobile takeover, will pay $4 billion breakup fee - http://bit.ly/tshcSX ouch | Dec 19 22:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh my... will #Facebook sue Mark Zuckerberg? :D ur1.ca/6un2d | Dec 19 22:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 380 days unlawful banking blockade. Assange: 377 days detained without charge. Manning: 575 days in jail https://t.co/WE9D0tWq | Dec 19 22:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I hereby coin the term #waheeh to mean "opposite of !heehaw " | Dec 19 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I can't believe there are identi.ca spammers using the #heehaw hashtag. !disturbing | Dec 19 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | <Wow. Globe and Weather are very nice plasma-desktop backgrounds I have just found | Dec 19 22:56 |
| schestowitz | weather matches the weather with a wallpaper | Dec 19 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @chrisblizzard Louis CK's event costs were $170k. Since he streamed for-pay MP4 for $550k in revenue that's $11k in MP4 license fees. | Dec 19 22:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cables released by WikiLeaks different to cables allegedly found on Manning's computer | Atlantic http://t.co/dWGf1Cfi | Dec 19 23:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Stab 2 people, ALP gov gives you consular support. Expose war crimes, Gillard hangs you out to dry http://t.co/JLyBNxmj | Dec 19 23:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Xmas fundraising campaign: Fighting off a superpower may be fun, but it isn't cheap. https://t.co/Mhq3JZhz | Dec 19 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Opinion Piece On CBS Says Chris Dodd Should Be Fired For His 'Intransigent' Position On SOPA/PIPA http://goo.gl/O6HzA | Dec 19 23:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks gründet Sympathisanten-Netzwerk | Spiegel http://t.co/JdPhC7m7 | Dec 19 23:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Evening !Identiverse altough not much left of it here now! | Dec 19 23:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Backgrounder for US extradition moves against Assange http://t.co/STbTIYKh | Dec 19 23:51 | |
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