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Quick Mention: Aeronautical University Thinks Novell is No Good

Posted in Identity Management, Novell at 4:39 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Novell is losing another customer.

The university already used Novell’s flavor of Linux to run its file and print management systems, as well as Novell eDirectory to manage access to those systems. But Bixler’s team ultimately decided against expanding the Novell eDirectory implementation.

“Novell didn’t really fit in with our enterprise systems,” Bixler said. “To be honest, we’ve had some issues with performance and how well we worked with Novell when things got rough. I really didn’t want to continue on that relationship.”

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14 Comments

  1. Sebastiaan Veld said,

    November 12, 2007 at 5:17 pm

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    Well, this has nothing to do with the MS agreement or patents so does not fit the purpose of your site.

    To me this look like a shop that’s just very happy with Oracle, in which they had already invested quite a lot and made the (political) decision to expand that relationship.

    There quite some huge customers out there that run IDM solutions from Novell which are happy with that. You win some, you lose some.

  2. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 12, 2007 at 5:47 pm

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    Well, this has nothing to do with the MS agreement or patents so does not fit the purpose of your site.

    Anything we can do to weaken Novell or pressure it to escape its mistake seems suitable. Some say that this would make Novell even more Microsoft-dependent, but then again, it’s bound to happen anyway. Better have a small Microsoft partner than a big Trojan horse inside your city (or a camel in the tent).

    You win some, you lose some.

    True, but Novell will only tell you about the wins. It fools people, who might choose Novell. I intend to publish a long item that shows how Microsoft and Novell market themselves (SUSE coupons). It’s revealing and ugly.

  3. Limulus said,

    November 13, 2007 at 1:10 am

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    Glad you were able to use the pic! :)

  4. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 13, 2007 at 1:21 am

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    We’re likely to use it again in the future. If you want an attribution (with or without a hyperlink), please say so.

  5. eet said,

    November 13, 2007 at 7:54 am

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    “Anything we can do to weaken Novell or pressure it to escape its mistake seems suitable.”

    ‘For the greater good’? Very morally superior stance…

    Anyway, your blog only serves your self-righteousness and as cheap entertainment for the likes of me. :-) You don’t really think that you have any impact besides that – or are you that deslusional?

    Note: comment has been flagged for arriving from an abusive Internet troll

  6. Sebastiaan Veld said,

    November 14, 2007 at 4:55 am

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    ” True, but Novell will only tell you about the wins.”

    And who does not do that? Does MS tell us when they loose a customer to Linux or does the community/Red Hat/Novell or any other tell it when they loose business to MS. No they don’t, cause it’s just not relevant. Everybody markets its strong points and successes as it should be. Weak points are shown by having competition.

  7. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 14, 2007 at 5:00 am

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    Does MS tell us when they loose a customer to Linux

    That’s what I do in other fora. Microsoft has a very tight grip on the media. Novell also, to an extent. Microsoft now helps Novell as far as self-serving publicity is concerned (more on that soon).

  8. Sebastiaan Veld said,

    November 14, 2007 at 8:34 am

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    ” That’s what I do in other fora.”

    So? Now you’re the only one promoting Linux by telling the world that MS also looses customers? Think you frequently take things out of context and use it to bend it to for your purpose. Would be more interesting why you expect especially Novell to tell all of us about losing a customer or a fight for a deal, while no one else out there does that kind of thing. That has nothing to do with misinforming customers. Also you yourself do it all the time, like “Aeronautical University Thinks Novell is No Good” and with “Novell is losing another customer”, that’ s taking thing out of context when putting it on a website where you promote the boycott Novell for the Novell-MS interoperability deal. Nothing wrong with having an opinion, but linking information that way is also misinforming people.

    ” Microsoft has a very tight grip on the media. Novell also, to an extent.”

    Any large organization or company has that. Why was the article on Oracle ‘winning’ the race over an IDM solution put there? Cause it somehow made sense to inform people about that. So, having competition leaves room to exploit each others weaknesses.

  9. eet said,

    November 14, 2007 at 11:23 am

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    Roy, this time you’re not only bordering on ridiculousness; you’ve gone right over the edge! :-)

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  10. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 14, 2007 at 5:12 pm

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    Cause it somehow made sense to inform people about that.

    To use actual examples, my problem is not with lost business, but it is with deception. Novell neglects to tell the media about coupons, for example. As for Microsoft, one example would be “channel-stuffing”. They shove many XBox360s, Zunes, Vistas, and Offices into the channel (at the expense of the shops) and then claim a lot of sales (which are actually products in the warehouse/shelves).

  11. eet said,

    November 15, 2007 at 1:06 pm

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    If those aren’t sold on commission then these are sold to the warehouses.

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  12. SundayRefugee said,

    November 15, 2007 at 3:57 pm

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    And we haven’t even gotten into the “legalities” of dumping yet, for example the $3 Vista/Office bundles in China. Which would be illegal, as I understand it, for any company in the US except for MS. Of course, IANAL, and am open for (intelligent) correction on that, but I think it would also make a nice subject for a post, Roy (or I could contribute some of my links and thoughts if you’d like).

  13. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 15, 2007 at 4:51 pm

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    SundayRefugee,

    I touched on that before in: http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/09/microsoft-crime-dirty-tricks-watch/ .More here: http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/07/unbundling-windows-patent-tax/ . I wrote some very long articles elsewhere — articles which I could reuse to show this in more detail (parallelism wrt the Intel antitrust fits well here).

    Please do send your thoughts and I’ll happily publish. roy at schestowitz dot com.

  14. eet said,

    November 16, 2007 at 5:18 am

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    The users of a free (also as in ‘beer’) OS look sad lamenting about dumping of Vista.

    Note: comment has been flagged for arriving from an abusive Internet troll

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