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DaemonFCBut it still didn't help too much.Dec 08 00:00
schestowitz-TRI'd surf differently back thenDec 08 00:00
schestowitz-TRand some sites had no imagesDec 08 00:00
schestowitz-TRthe text too would take time to loadDec 08 00:00
schestowitz-TRmaybe 20 secsDec 08 00:00
DaemonFCMy ISP, Skynet, supported v.92.Dec 08 00:00
schestowitz-TRyou are a bit younger than meDec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TR1.5 yearsDec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TRI'm 39 stillDec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TRnot next month :/Dec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TRthe modem I had was 14.4Dec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TRsome had the 28kDec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TRthen ISDNDec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TRmultiplexingDec 08 00:01
DaemonFCI started out with this piece of shit WinModem.Dec 08 00:01
schestowitz-TRbut that encouraged better contentDec 08 00:01
DaemonFCK56Flex or X2.Dec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRyes, winmodemDec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRthey called them thatDec 08 00:02
DaemonFCLuckily, the system on the other end could use either protocol.Dec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRyour PC came without a modemDec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRdialup winsock or whateverDec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRtrumpetDec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRwhen done, go offlineDec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRand keep the trolls behindDec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRscarcity helps people appreciate things moreDec 08 00:02
schestowitz-TRI'm back to reading email once a day or lessDec 08 00:03
schestowitzDaemonFC: typos? http://techrights.org/2021/12/07/epo-eu-assurances/Dec 08 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EU Assurances | TechrightsDec 08 00:03
DaemonFCThere was a software update to v.90, and that was the only good thing about it.Dec 08 00:03
schestowitz-TRwinnuke.exeDec 08 00:04
DaemonFCIt used the CPU, so the DSP could be upgraded without ripping out the whole modem.Dec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRonly try on friends ;-)Dec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRantinuke.exeDec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRalways run when connectingDec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRelse, bsodDec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRif we had 'secure' boot back thenDec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRthen the nuke could maybe override the 'bios'Dec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRand brick your PC ;-)Dec 08 00:04
schestowitz-TRsome 'security'Dec 08 00:04
DaemonFCMr. Goolag hated that. Mr. Goolag is going back to work on his Roomba.Dec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRwhop buys this shit?Dec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRshits-for-brainsDec 08 00:05
DaemonFCAbsolutely.Dec 08 00:05
DaemonFCJohn bought one when I left and bragged about it.Dec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRI look at these things and laughDec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRthey don't even have powerDec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRno socket, no powerDec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRit's s toyDec 08 00:05
DaemonFCI went back in while he was at work 2 weeks later to grab more stuff, and the entire house was trashed.Dec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRon batteriesDec 08 00:05
schestowitz-TRyou need AT LEAST 1000 watts on those thingsDec 08 00:06
DaemonFCAnd here's this thing vacuuming 10 square feet of floor he kicked open in front of it and then parking itself. :)Dec 08 00:06
schestowitz-TRwhat next? electric planes?Dec 08 00:06
schestowitz-TRsome people try to sell that tooDec 08 00:06
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Metra is converting diesel-electric locomotives to all electric.Dec 08 00:06
schestowitz-TRgood luck REPAIRING a RoombaDec 08 00:06
DaemonFCIt makes no sense at all.Dec 08 00:06
schestowitz-TRwith a traditional one you can get spared and repair yourselfDec 08 00:07
schestowitz-TRunless it's bad engine or some core thingDec 08 00:07
schestowitz-TRalso, Roomba can get pwned, afaikDec 08 00:07
schestowitz-TRvia the applianceDec 08 00:07
schestowitz-TRor the "app"Dec 08 00:07
DaemonFCThe smarter thing would be to build 1500v overhead wires across the entire system and ditch the engine completely.Dec 08 00:07
schestowitz-TRto steal info about you and the homeDec 08 00:07
DaemonFCThey'd have to do more work up front, but these electric locomotive engines running on batteries is the stupid short-term option.Dec 08 00:07
DaemonFCSo we're doing this, I guess.Dec 08 00:08
schestowitz-TRuntil the company goes bustDec 08 00:08
schestowitz-TRythen you are on your own ;-)Dec 08 00:08
schestowitz-TR"on your own" ;-)Dec 08 00:08
schestowitz-TRI'm ALWAYS on my ownDec 08 00:08
DaemonFCIt's somewhere between diesel and just running the system with overhead wires.Dec 08 00:08
DaemonFCIt gets you like halfway to where you should be.Dec 08 00:08
schestowitz-TRmy cleaner connects to nothing but a socket for voltageDec 08 00:08
DaemonFCIt's a half-measure, and I know enough to avoid those.Dec 08 00:08
schestowitz-TRmaybe next up will be vacuum claners that run on diesel like mowersDec 08 00:09
schestowitz-TRstinks up the home :-)Dec 08 00:09
DaemonFCIf it had overhead wires, it would be more efficient and they'd never have to recycle a battery.Dec 08 00:09
schestowitz-TRahDec 08 00:09
DaemonFCThere's not going to be anything more efficient than direct current.Dec 08 00:09
schestowitz-TRyou beat me tto itDec 08 00:09
schestowitz-TRre dieselDec 08 00:09
schestowitz-TRwe both used the diesel analogy at the same timeDec 08 00:10
DaemonFCYou can still put electricity back into the lines at stops by using regenerative braking.Dec 08 00:10
schestowitz-TRelectric powers are OK for small gardensDec 08 00:10
DaemonFCReverse the process to do DC to AC and then put it back out into the grid.Dec 08 00:10
schestowitz-TRwhere the wiring doesn't need to be a web of kludgeDec 08 00:10
DaemonFCMetra's Electric District is the most reliable.Dec 08 00:11
DaemonFCIt's also the oldest.Dec 08 00:11
DaemonFC98% on time, and the diesel lines are like 86-92% usually.Dec 08 00:11
DaemonFCThey have more breakdowns, and when they do, you have to wait forever for another train, it completely ruins the board.Dec 08 00:11
DaemonFCI know. I was in one when the radiator exploded.Dec 08 00:12
DaemonFCIt sounded like a bomb went off and then the whole train shook and the lights went on and off a few times and then the train coasted to a stop.Dec 08 00:12
techrights-news[Meme] #EU Assurances • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/07/epo-eu-assurances/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #immunity | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/epo-eu-assurances/Dec 08 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EU Assurances | TechrightsDec 08 00:13
DaemonFCThen we were stuck at the Blue Island station for 2 hours with the police directing traffic, and that's when Metra managed to re-route another train onto the opposite track.Dec 08 00:13
DaemonFCWe were never in any physical danger of derailment or anything.Dec 08 00:13
DaemonFCBut it was pretty jarring.Dec 08 00:14
DaemonFCHumorously, that was the Rock Island District. It was the line that the movie Source Code was filmed on.Dec 08 00:14
schestowitz-TR[00:12] <DaemonFC> I know. I was in one when the radiator exploded.Dec 08 00:14
schestowitz-TRhow does THAT work?Dec 08 00:14
schestowitz-TRit's just like pipe with waterDec 08 00:14
schestowitz-TRunless it's the boilerDec 08 00:14
DaemonFCI don't know. It was louder than hell.Dec 08 00:15
schestowitz-TRradiators don't explodeDec 08 00:15
schestowitz-TRthey can spillDec 08 00:15
DaemonFCJust "BOOOM!".Dec 08 00:15
schestowitz-TRthere's one 30 cm from meDec 08 00:15
schestowitz-TRbut I never use itDec 08 00:15
schestowitz-TRunless it's less than -5 outsideDec 08 00:15
schestowitz-TR(which is very rare here)Dec 08 00:15
immibisschestowitz-TR: steam can be under high pressureDec 08 00:15
schestowitz-TRI have a hot water bottle to my feet nowDec 08 00:16
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schestowitz-TRthe extremities are the main issueDec 08 00:16
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schestowitz-TRimmibis: but explode?Dec 08 00:16
schestowitz-TRalso, boilers have water and radiators never have steam in themDec 08 00:17
schestowitz-TRnor electricityDec 08 00:17
DaemonFCThe conductor told me that the radiator exploded.Dec 08 00:17
immibis<schestowitz> but you could only choose from two pieces of shitDec 08 00:17
immibis<schestowitz> because DNC rigged it like it had done in 2016Dec 08 00:17
immibis<schestowitz> they never learnaDec 08 00:17
immibisthis is how free markets workDec 08 00:17
schestowitz-TRhaha, trueDec 08 00:17
immibisyour choice is take it or leave it, your influence is taking the least bad option and leaving the most bad optionDec 08 00:17
schestowitz-TRapple vs MicrosoftDec 08 00:17
immibislibertarians will tell you this game eventually results in both options becoming good, but that's because they are wrongDec 08 00:18
schestowitz-TRandroid (gulag) versus i(think you are a pedo)phoneDec 08 00:18
immibisthose are both pretty ludicrous comparisonsDec 08 00:18
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, A woman with a BMW who ignored the directions on Steel Seal head gasket leak fixer and just poured it in and drove the car found out that radiators can explode.Dec 08 00:18
DaemonFCI think I told MinceR about that.Dec 08 00:18
immibisschestowitz-TR: what happens to the water if the cooling system fails?Dec 08 00:18
DaemonFCThen she started threatening to sue the company when there were very clear directions that she ignored.Dec 08 00:19
schestowitz-TRthey're written by lawyersDec 08 00:19
schestowitz-TRlong and incomprehensibleDec 08 00:19
DaemonFC"Oh I'm not going to pay a mechanic to put a new head gasket on this car for $3,500!"Dec 08 00:19
schestowitz-TRso people stop reading manualsDec 08 00:19
DaemonFC"Look what I can do!"Dec 08 00:19
DaemonFCNope, now the car is scrap because you blew the radiator, and the head gasket was already bad.Dec 08 00:20
DaemonFCHead gasket repair on a BMW is not a $900 job like it is on a Chevy.Dec 08 00:20
DaemonFCAnd I'm sure a completely new radiator isn't cheap either.Dec 08 00:20
DaemonFCIf you don't know what you're doing with Steel Seal, take it down to a mechanic who does.Dec 08 00:21
DaemonFCChances are it can last 50,000 miles and it's an old car so that's all you need anyway.Dec 08 00:21
DaemonFCAnd it'll be like maybe $150 all told.Dec 08 00:21
DaemonFCOn a Chevy or a Ford you don't need to use an OEM radiator.Dec 08 00:23
DaemonFCThey sell them from China, they're dirt cheap. They work.Dec 08 00:23
schestowitz-TR dirt cheap?Dec 08 00:26
schestowitz-TRto whom?Dec 08 00:26
schestowitz-TRmaybe compared to cost of a carDec 08 00:26
schestowitz-TRyou can get a hot water bottle for a fiverDec 08 00:26
schestowitz-TRa kettle costs like 20 dollars, a decent one tooDec 08 00:26
techrights-newses ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158862 #GNDec 08 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:27
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158862 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 00:28
MinceR(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap8Z-DbUqX4Dec 08 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Are Domestic Cats Like Tigers? - YouTubeDec 08 00:29
techrights-newsLinks 8/12/2021: #FreeBSD 12.3, #EasyOS 3.1.13, and WordPress 5.9 Beta 2 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/07/easyos-3-1-13/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/easyos-3-1-13/Dec 08 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/12/2021: FreeBSD 12.3, EasyOS 3.1.13, and WordPress 5.9 Beta 2 | TechrightsDec 08 00:29
schestowitz-TRTIL even Nat Friedman has some sexual secretsDec 08 00:32
schestowitz-TRbut those are rumoursDec 08 00:32
schestowitz-TRand related to offencesDec 08 00:32
schestowitz-TRso stay tuned...Dec 08 00:32
schestowitz<p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20"  style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" />Dec 08 00:33
schestowitz<p class="dropcap-first">Dec 08 00:33
schestowitz<a href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ap8Z-DbUqX4"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Dec 08 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ap8Z-DbUqX4 )Dec 08 00:33
schestowitzwrong paste, sorryDec 08 00:33
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=ap8Z-DbUqX4"Dec 08 00:33
schestowitz"Looks like you've found a bug in Invidious."Dec 08 00:34
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158863 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:34
schestowitz-TRneed to find more stable instanceDec 08 00:35
schestowitz-TRwhich are the recommended  ones?Dec 08 00:35
schestowitzMinceR: several ads in thereDec 08 00:39
techrights-news#epo #patent #monopolies to people who give #cancer to other people, with buzzwords like "e" https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/bat-and-vossius-successful-in-heat-not-burn-e-cigarette-dispute-in-mannheim/Dec 08 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | BAT and Vossius successful in heat-not-burn e-cigarette dispute in Mannheim - JUVE PatentDec 08 00:41
techrights-news#Fakenews about something that can never legally become a reality, part of a #lobbying campaign https://www.dyoung.com/en/knowledgebank/faqs-and-guides/guide-unitary-patent-up see http://techrights.org/2021/09/28/upc-song-joke/ #unitarypatentcourt #unitarypatentDec 08 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dyoung.com | D Young & Co | Guide to the unitary patent (UP)Dec 08 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The “You Pee, See?” (UPC) Tactics: Fake it Till You Make it | TechrightsDec 08 00:43
techrights-newsMessage lost in #buzzwords https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/12/02/terrascan-open-source-security-analyzer/Dec 08 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Open source cloud native security analyzer Terrascan embeds security into native DevOps tooling - Help Net SecurityDec 08 00:45
techrights-news#surveillance disguised as safety https://www.maketecheasier.com/setup-and-use-find-my-iphone/ #apple #YouAreAPedoDec 08 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Use "Find My" to Protect and Track Your iPhone - Make Tech EasierDec 08 00:46
techrights-newsFreeBSD 12.3 Released With Updated AMD & Networking Hardware, Password Protected ZIPs - Phoronix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158857#comment-32002Dec 08 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE Announcement | The FreeBSD Project | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:48
DaemonFChttps://www.networkworld.com/article/2287695/k56flex-vs--x2-56kbps-modems.htmlDec 08 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | K56flex vs. x2 56Kbps modems | Network WorldDec 08 00:48
DaemonFCTIL: A patent troll made 56k modems more expensive for everyone with junk patents, which he was able to hire lawyers to defend, due to the royalties and settlements he made with people who paid up.Dec 08 00:48
techrights-newshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158826#comment-32003Tails 4.25 is outDec 08 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 4.25 Anonymous Linux OS Released with New Backup Tool for Persistent Storage | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:50
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: parasite economyDec 08 00:50
schestowitz-TRI did not know about the modem angleDec 08 00:50
schestowitz-TRwas too young to understand I guessDec 08 00:50
DaemonFChttps://web.archive.org/web/20130517200939/http://www.networkworld.com/news/2004/0308widernetmodem.htmlDec 08 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | More than just a modem manDec 08 00:50
DaemonFCSubmarine patent on 56k.Dec 08 00:52
DaemonFCHe patented it, then waited for the ITU to standardize one, then popped up and demanded settlements from all involved.Dec 08 00:52
schestowitz-TRtypicalDec 08 00:54
schestowitz-TRlike mp*Dec 08 00:54
schestowitz-TRand now av*Dec 08 00:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/04/23/microsoft-walking-among-patents/Dec 08 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Software Patents in Codecs, Web Font DRM, and Likewise-HP | TechrightsDec 08 00:54
schestowitz-TRand othersDec 08 00:55
AdmFubarno wonder a saw only fedex and ups on my street today  https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/aws-outage-impacts-ring-netflix-and-amazon-deliveries/Dec 08 00:55
-altlink_72d/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/aws-outage-impacts-ring-netflix-and-amazon-deliveries/Dec 08 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | AWS outage impacts Ring, Netflix, and Amazon deliveriesDec 08 00:55
schestowitz-TRall those software patentsDec 08 00:55
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: haDec 08 00:55
DaemonFCHe made at least $100 million doing essentially nothing.Dec 08 00:55
schestowitz-TRwell, some of fedora is downDec 08 00:55
schestowitz-TRbecause racist ibm outsourced to bezosDec 08 00:55
DaemonFCJust legal threats to companies that made dial up modems.Dec 08 00:55
schestowitz-TRyeahDec 08 00:55
schestowitz-TRI exposed another one like thatDec 08 00:55
schestowitz-TRand then he sent me death wishes by emailDec 08 00:56
schestowitz-TRI learned how to deal with those thugs over timeDec 08 00:56
schestowitz-TRthe patent trolls are very very rudeDec 08 00:56
AdmFubarcompromised with windows https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/google-disrupts-botnet-targeting-windows-machinesDec 08 00:56
-altlink_72d/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: darkreading.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/google-disrupts-botnet-targeting-windows-machinesDec 08 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Google Disrupts Botnet Targeting Windows MachinesDec 08 00:56
schestowitz-TRthey're like "get rich fact" schemersDec 08 00:56
schestowitz-TR*fastDec 08 00:56
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techrights-news#gulag #microsoft #ProprietarySofwtare https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/google-disrupts-botnet-targeting-windows-machines see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/Dec 08 00:57
-altlink_72d/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: darkreading.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/google-disrupts-botnet-targeting-windows-machinesDec 08 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | TechrightsDec 08 00:57
schestowitzapropos, Gulagboy thinks I'm some noobDec 08 00:58
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schestowitzwho panics at the sight of some slappy lawyersDec 08 00:58
AdmFubardarkweb criminals have their own legal system? https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/the-dark-web-has-its-own-people-s-courtsDec 08 00:58
-altlink_72d/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: darkreading.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/the-dark-web-has-its-own-people-s-courtsDec 08 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | The Dark Web Has Its Own People's CourtDec 08 00:58
schestowitzAdmFubar: 'dark' webDec 08 00:58
schestowitztell ibmDec 08 00:58
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schestowitzthey will cancel the termDec 08 00:58
schestowitzto hide their DARK pastDec 08 00:58
techrights-news4 RSS readers every Linux user should try • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158864 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 RSS readers every Linux user should try | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:59
techrights-news#Tails 4.25 is out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158826#comment-32003Dec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 4.25 Anonymous Linux OS Released with New Backup Tool for Persistent Storage | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:00
techrights-newsThere’s another (new) push to hold the #EPO accountable, seeing that the overseers clearly do not do their job and instead cover up the abuses • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/07/clare-daly-on-epo/ ䷉ #Techrights #europe #patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/clare-daly-on-epo/Dec 08 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Clare Daly (GUE/NGL) Does What Every Public Official in Europe Should Have Done About EPO Shenanigans | TechrightsDec 08 01:01
techrights-newsThe EPO‘s staff cannot be blamed for losing patience as elected public representatives completely fail to do their job (with few exceptions) • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/07/epo-eu-assurances/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #europe #patent #eu | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/epo-eu-assurances/Dec 08 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EU Assurances | TechrightsDec 08 01:02
DaemonFCschestowitz, Mandy's dentist called. COVID was a false alarm.Dec 08 01:04
DaemonFCSo I scheduled a replacement appointment on Thursday and he's just going to have to call in and cover it with personal time.Dec 08 01:05
DaemonFCOh well. It was either that or let the stupid insurance company keep over $300 in benefits for the calendar year!Dec 08 01:05
DaemonFCThe benefits are counted _after_ the discount. The discount is the biggest part of the reduction.Dec 08 01:06
DaemonFCBefore they start paying anything for like, a filling, they negotiate half of the price off with the dentist to be in their network.Dec 08 01:06
DaemonFCThen they pay 80% of the remainder.Dec 08 01:06
DaemonFCThe dentist turns around and hits up cash patients, bad.Dec 08 01:07
DaemonFCIt's cartel-like behavior.Dec 08 01:07
DaemonFCBecause then more people see THOSE prices and sign up for the insurance so they can be protected from the dentist charging them the cash price.Dec 08 01:07
techrights-news#Kubernetes 1.23: The Next Frontier • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158865 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubernetes 1.23: The Next Frontier | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:08
DaemonFCThe more work the dentist does, the better his breath is getting.Dec 08 01:09
DaemonFCThis has been a problem that should have been addressed many years ago.Dec 08 01:09
DaemonFCI would have probably handled it before COVID, but I was already tapped out and juggling too many things.Dec 08 01:10
techrights-newsRelease of #XigmaNAS 12.3.0.4 https://xigmanas.com/xnaswp/about/ #freesbsd #bsd #unixDec 08 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-About – XigmaNASDec 08 01:11
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/12/08/walmart-lets-orders-to-po-boxes-go-through-then-sends-them-to-fedex-which-cant-put-anything-in-a-po-box/Dec 08 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Walmart lets orders to PO Boxes go through, then sends them to FedEx, which can’t put anything in a PO Box. – BaronHK's RantsDec 08 01:15
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/vicariousDec 08 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - VicariousDec 08 01:18
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AdmFubarhttps://ffii.org/unified-patent-court-is-100x-more-expensive-and-an-sme-killer-europe-is-commiting-an-economic-suicide/Dec 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffii.org | Unified Patent Court is 100X more expensive and an SME killer, Europe is commiting an economic suicide | FFIIDec 08 01:40
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schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: trueDec 08 01:46
schestowitz-TRgood newsDec 08 01:46
schestowitz-TRmy complaint has been a successDec 08 01:46
schestowitz-TRto NHSDec 08 01:46
schestowitz-TRand it had so much impact that they change providers and protocolsDec 08 01:46
DaemonFC"When gambling addiction lures people into unpayable debt, some of them commit suicide. There are around 400 such suicides a year in the UK.Dec 08 01:55
DaemonFCI was unable to find any comparable info about the US."Dec 08 01:55
DaemonFCYes, but in the US most of the casinos and horse betting tracks are in Democrat-majority areas.Dec 08 01:56
DaemonFCThey're trying to put one in Chicago, and one in Waukegan.Dec 08 01:56
DaemonFCThat's despite the fact that they have not been the source of jobs or revenue they promised would fix the city finances in Joliet or Aurora.Dec 08 01:56
DaemonFCIf you want to go lose a fortune, there's still Vegas. And the weather is pretty nice right now.Dec 08 01:57
DaemonFCHard to imagine who would come to Chicago and risk the carjackings and shootings, to gamble in the middle of winter.Dec 08 01:58
immibis"Since I can't get any work done, I decided to relax and order in some pizza. Then I tried ordering online from the Jet's Pizza site. 500 errors. lol. looked at network request headers. Its AWS....."Dec 08 01:58
immibisDaemonFC: it sounds like you're trying and failing to make a political point. just say itDec 08 01:58
DaemonFCThe resistance to gambling has usually been in conservative states. Every time it goes before the voters, it's a losing issue until the crooks in the legislature pass it anyway.Dec 08 01:59
DaemonFCThat's why Indiana didn't have a lottery until like 1990.Dec 08 01:59
DaemonFCThey tried selling the state lottery as "This will fund education and fix all of our K-12 budget problems!", then it didn't.Dec 08 02:00
DaemonFCAnd now Stallman is promoting CNN.Dec 08 02:01
DaemonFC:)Dec 08 02:01
DaemonFCGates and Bezos. OOOOhhhhh, don't stop.Dec 08 02:01
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DaemonFCLike most things the government promises, lotteries and casinos are a lie.Dec 08 02:05
schestowitz-TRRMS links to CNN a lotDec 08 02:05
schestowitz-TRonion, omidyar, gates' guardian, cnn...Dec 08 02:05
schestowitz-TRcommon dreams is goodDec 08 02:05
schestowitz-TRsome of the rest are notDec 08 02:05
DaemonFCIt's a way to cut tax on the rich, and fund the state on the backs of people who buy a 1 in 800 million chance to become rich, with the state taking 60 cents on every dollar, and then taxing the payouts too.Dec 08 02:05
schestowitz-TRreuters is also oligarchs' ownedDec 08 02:06
schestowitz-TRbut it's usually okDec 08 02:06
schestowitz-TRwashpo and newsweek oligarchs-ownedDec 08 02:06
schestowitz-TRbloomberg and murdoch have their ownDec 08 02:06
schestowitz-TRI avoid all those... when I cnaDec 08 02:06
schestowitz-TRcanDec 08 02:06
DaemonFC"*New York City sets Covid vaccine mandate for all private employers.*" -StallmanDec 08 02:07
DaemonFCFederal judge strikes down last Biden vaccine mandate. (for federal workers)Dec 08 02:07
schestowitz-TRhe must be happyDec 08 02:07
schestowitz-TRguardian told him this is freedoDec 08 02:07
schestowitz-TRand that not having mandate is bad for other people's freedomDec 08 02:07
DaemonFCRMS gives Free Software awards to a bunch of deranged psychopaths who sabotage Free Software.Dec 08 02:07
DaemonFCSo it stands to reason that he wouldn't know freedom if it bit him in the ass.Dec 08 02:08
schestowitz-TRand who do not understand freedom of speechDec 08 02:08
schestowitz-TRthey cancel him based on liesDec 08 02:08
schestowitz-TRand Torvalds tooDec 08 02:08
schestowitz-TRand trashing postboxes with threatsDec 08 02:08
schestowitz-TRtrue storyDec 08 02:08
DaemonFCHe's not going to get us there by giving Free Software Awards to a guy who implements Microsoft boot standards and plays with his Roomba.Dec 08 02:08
schestowitz-TRmaybe torvalds wrote that forced' apology' afeter someone had threatened to SUEDec 08 02:09
DaemonFCHe derails the entire conversation about software freedom like this.Dec 08 02:09
schestowitz-TRyeahDec 08 02:09
schestowitz-TRand bashes libebootDec 08 02:09
schestowitz-TRleah knowDec 08 02:09
schestowitz-TRlibreboot badDec 08 02:09
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft asked to sigh your distro... GOODDec 08 02:09
schestowitz-TRGNU libreboot BADDec 08 02:10
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft... GOODDec 08 02:10
DaemonFCI just turn "Secure Boot" off.Dec 08 02:10
DaemonFCIt doesn't do anything except get in my way.Dec 08 02:10
DaemonFCIt's not important.Dec 08 02:10
schestowitz-TRlenovo askes you toDec 08 02:10
schestowitz-TRbut they signed some secret OEM deal with MSFTDec 08 02:10
schestowitz-TRdo this to get discountDec 08 02:10
schestowitz-TRelse, pay a fineDec 08 02:10
leahi have been summonedDec 08 02:10
schestowitz-TRblackmail byn MicriosdoftDec 08 02:10
leahwhy have i been summonedDec 08 02:10
schestowitz-TRleah: fake freedomDec 08 02:11
schestowitz-TRand fake awardsDec 08 02:11
schestowitz-TRfrom FSFDec 08 02:11
schestowitz-TRto peoplem who attack RMSDec 08 02:11
leahcarry on. i will go grab coffee and read this conversation in a short whileDec 08 02:11
*leah is an omnipetent ghostDec 08 02:11
schestowitz-TRand the spirit of the mission of the FSFDec 08 02:11
DaemonFChttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/06/china-attacks-us-style-democracy-prior-to-biden-summitDec 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | China attacks ‘US-style democracy’ prior to Biden summit | China | The GuardianDec 08 02:12
DaemonFCA "whole-process" democracy, complete with Great Firewall and Secret Police.Dec 08 02:12
DaemonFCVery democratic. Criticize any of the Chinese politicians, nobody ever sees you again.Dec 08 02:12
DaemonFCTerrific democracy!Dec 08 02:12
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DaemonFCThe great thing about Western Democracies is most of us know the government is shit and the only thing you can do about it is try to limit the total harm to yourself with strategic voting.Dec 08 02:13
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DaemonFCIn China, they don't even get that much.Dec 08 02:13
DaemonFCAgain, democracy! "Socialist" democracy!Dec 08 02:14
DaemonFCThe government is a gigantic negative value proposition.Dec 08 02:14
DaemonFCIt saps the public dry with taxes and kills jobs with regulations designed to extort bigger bribes.Dec 08 02:15
DaemonFCStallman is a fool if he can't see this much.Dec 08 02:15
DaemonFCIt's like, you know, all of Illinois has been sucked dry by Chicago taxes and ruined by Chicago laws.Dec 08 02:15
DaemonFCThere's even videos about how awful Illinois is on Youtube, and all of the most awful things are that way either because of Chicago or because most of the politicians are from Chicago and no other region gets what it needs from the state government.Dec 08 02:17
DaemonFCIt's easier to leave than to do anything about it. So people leave. Sometimes they just abandon their house without even trying to sell it and let the government confiscate it for back taxes.Dec 08 02:18
DaemonFCThey just want out of here that much.Dec 08 02:18
leahsoDec 08 02:18
leahschestowitz-TR: DaemonFC can you please summarize the discussion thus far. clue me inDec 08 02:18
DaemonFCOh, the FSF and Stallman being a bunch of fucking idiots.Dec 08 02:18
leahjust so i can get my bearings. from when i was pinged and before then. what's the themeDec 08 02:18
leahplease elaborateDec 08 02:18
DaemonFCStallman seems to be a very ineffective person.Dec 08 02:19
DaemonFCThey probably agreed to bring him back because he's a pushover.Dec 08 02:19
DaemonFCHe allows, like, this infestation of people who don't even use or promote Free Software, like Mr. Goolag.Dec 08 02:20
DaemonFCThey just get to camp out and get awards for taking us 10 giant steps backwards.Dec 08 02:20
DaemonFCThe FSF can't even get a small text editor project to snap into line.Dec 08 02:21
leahcontext pleaseDec 08 02:21
DaemonFCGNU Nano is only part of GNU because they won concessions.Dec 08 02:21
DaemonFCIt was the same list of concessions that Lucid was demanding with Emacs.Dec 08 02:21
DaemonFCThe whole of GNU is falling apart and turning into "open source".Dec 08 02:22
DaemonFCSome of it has been that way for years in exchange for lots of corporate cash and development work.Dec 08 02:22
DaemonFCBut we're talking core components at this point.Dec 08 02:22
DaemonFChttps://www.christopherprice.net/gplv4-starting-the-conversation-2580.htmlDec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.christopherprice.net | GPLv4 – Starting the Conversation | Christopher PriceDec 08 02:24
DaemonFCWho is this fucking idiot anyway?Dec 08 02:24
DaemonFCLiterally the first thing on his wish list would protect Donald Trump from his social media platform's GPL violation.Dec 08 02:25
leahok, i'm fully caught upDec 08 02:26
leahschestowitz-TR: GNU Libreboot didn't really makes sense on a technical level. In retrospect, going the FSDG route back then might have been a better approach. But yes, I can infer from context what you were talking about, and I agree with what you said: fuck mjg59.Dec 08 02:28
leahhe bashed libreboot from day one, and legitimized secureboot within x86 spaceDec 08 02:29
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leahHowever, lately I've been looking at things in a very different light. I'm not any sides at the moment. I'm building my own side, instead.Dec 08 02:30
leahhave you seen the conversations i've been starting lately, about federationDec 08 02:30
schestowitz-TRleah: he threatens me with lawyers nowDec 08 02:30
schestowitz-TRsuch a freedom-loving man ;-)Dec 08 02:31
leahwhy does he threaten you?Dec 08 02:31
schestowitz-TRANOTHER FSF awardDec 08 02:31
schestowitz-TRleah: freedom of speechDec 08 02:31
leahanother fsf award?Dec 08 02:31
schestowitz-TRhe struggles to find a jobDec 08 02:31
schestowitz-TRbecause people can see what he isDec 08 02:31
leaha careerist pig who has no values whatsoever and simply wants to insert his penis into everything?Dec 08 02:32
schestowitz-TRhe said here in ircDec 08 02:33
schestowitz-TRthat if we don'y go to foss events for secDec 08 02:33
schestowitz-TRthen we are "missing out"Dec 08 02:33
AdmFubarhttps://torrentfreak.com/dns-resolver-quad9-loses-first-pirate-site-blocking-appeal-in-germany-211206/Dec 08 02:33
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leahi became disillusioned with the fsf in the last few years, precisely because of people like him being in it. and the overall direction and focus of the fsf being lacklustre at best. i saw that they were holding the movement backDec 08 02:33
schestowitz-TRand later he goes around accusing rms and torvalds of being hostile to womenDec 08 02:33
schestowitz-TRbtw, he stalks us in ircDec 08 02:33
schestowitz-TRdoes not seem like healthy behaviourDec 08 02:33
leahhowever, this year, i saw a great opportunity to rekindle things and realign the movement back into a people-powered oneDec 08 02:34
schestowitz-TR24/7 stalkingDec 08 02:34
leahi want corporations to have less control, and for all the freedom movements to unify in a grand federationDec 08 02:34
schestowitz-TRyesDec 08 02:34
schestowitz-TRI agreeDec 08 02:34
leahfree software, oshw/right to repair (riscv plays a key part), free art/culture, all kinds of stuffDec 08 02:34
leahright now, the problem i see is one of infrastructureDec 08 02:35
leahstuff like github for instance. ariadne recently told me about a project called ForgeFed, which is a fork of ActivityPub for implementing federated git code forgesDec 08 02:35
leahapparently, gitea and gitlab are implementing supportDec 08 02:35
leahright now, the problem we face is that huge corporations have co-opted the freedom movements everywhere, and basically "whitewashed" it, for want of a better wordDec 08 02:36
leahkind of like in the movie "They Live" where everything is skewed towards moneyDec 08 02:36
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leahi want to start a project teaching people how to host their own services. including how to get round isp restrictions by tunneling via l2tp/vpn and so onDec 08 02:37
leahalso promote stuff like torDec 08 02:37
leahfederated freedom foundation, so to speakDec 08 02:37
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leaha living, breathing organisation, not necessarily incorporated in law, but woven into our social structureDec 08 02:38
leaha newly unstoppable federation of freedomDec 08 02:38
leahone that nitwits like mjg59 can't fuck withDec 08 02:38
schestowitz-TRfederation is goodDec 08 02:38
schestowitz-TRyou should see this:Dec 08 02:38
leaha complete evolution of the fsf and others like itDec 08 02:38
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/Free_Software_FederationDec 08 02:38
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leahbuilding on their strengths but not just thinking outside the box: colonising the entire universe insteadDec 08 02:39
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leaha giant fediverseDec 08 02:39
leahthe early phase of this idea is to first get the existing, entrenched organisations talkingDec 08 02:39
schestowitzright now we have GAFAMverseDec 08 02:39
schestowitzwhere few Pentagon contractors control most thingsDec 08 02:39
leahwhat i'm working on is a charter to define this new movementDec 08 02:39
leaha federal freedom charterDec 08 02:39
schestowitzinc. the web traffic Dec 08 02:39
schestowitznetflix, clownflare...Dec 08 02:40
leahas soon as it's ready, i'm publishing the first draftDec 08 02:40
schestowitzwe need to topple this bad orderDec 08 02:40
leahand will get as many people as possible to review itDec 08 02:40
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leahpeople from all different kinds of communitiesDec 08 02:40
leahagree upon a charter, a mission statement. a federal mission statementDec 08 02:40
leahanyway, regarding FSF: earlier this year, i saw a great opportunity to reshape it back into its people-powered, adhoc routes. free of corporate influenceDec 08 02:40
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leahhoweverDec 08 02:40
leahwhat has happened since then is far worse:Dec 08 02:41
leahthe fsf appears to be collapsingDec 08 02:41
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leahit has completely lost steamDec 08 02:41
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leahi'm expecting it to continue to exist, but in a weakened stateDec 08 02:41
leahwhen i tried to become ED, i had these kinds of ideas in mind. though my thinking back then was less developed than it is nowDec 08 02:41
leahi completely misjudged everything entirely, this year. and now i'm working on something better. on my termsDec 08 02:42
leahso i'm not picking any sides right now. like i said, i'm building my ownDec 08 02:42
leahi have no faith in the fsfDec 08 02:42
leahrms appears to be allowing it to just fall apart. probably bathing in former glory, remembering the good old daysDec 08 02:42
schestowitz-TRnoDec 08 02:43
schestowitz-TRrms does okDec 08 02:43
schestowitz-TRhe's in a tough positionDec 08 02:43
schestowitz-TRbecause he's stalked and houndedDec 08 02:43
leahand i find this very sad. a lot of us have reached our hand out to him, and his fsfDec 08 02:43
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schestowitz-TRthe cancel mob looks to have another go/roundDec 08 02:43
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leahi've cut ties, you knowDec 08 02:43
schestowitz-TRI knowDec 08 02:43
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leahbut i'm not opposing himDec 08 02:43
schestowitz-TRbut that does not mean you oppose themDec 08 02:43
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schestowitz-TRyeahDec 08 02:43
schestowitz-TRhaha, beat me to itDec 08 02:43
leahhe is not my enemy. but he is no longer my heroDec 08 02:43
schestowitz-TRwe said the same thingDec 08 02:43
leahi've told him, directly:Dec 08 02:44
leahi will replace youDec 08 02:44
leah:PDec 08 02:44
schestowitz-TRnot a wise thing to sayDec 08 02:44
schestowitz-TRbut whatever..Dec 08 02:44
schestowitz-TRwe can make many clonesDec 08 02:44
leahi want him on boardDec 08 02:44
schestowitz-TRof sortsDec 08 02:44
schestowitz-TRthat would make many thinkers like himDec 08 02:44
leahwhat i have in mind is far advanced compared to the status quo we've knownDec 08 02:44
schestowitz-TRwho have more capcityDec 08 02:44
leahwe need to smash that status quo in its entirety, and build the federationDec 08 02:45
leahthe problem is a very human one:Dec 08 02:45
leahorganisations like the fsf were innovative for their time, but have lost their way in a world that has far outgrown them. but these organisations try to cling on and continue to run things,Dec 08 02:45
leahandDec 08 02:45
leahthey are single points of failure for people like mjg59 and his ilk to conquerDec 08 02:46
leahwe're stuck in the pastDec 08 02:46
leahand i want to build the next 30 yearsDec 08 02:46
leahwhat i'm thinking of is not even a new idea, and much of the necessary infrastructure and people already existDec 08 02:47
leahbut we need to get organizedDec 08 02:47
schestowitz-TRyupDec 08 02:47
leahthe people that will lead this new movement (not me. i only want to help get it going) exist, and are activeDec 08 02:47
leahbut they are sequesteredDec 08 02:47
leahdistractedDec 08 02:47
schestowitz-TRwe are stronger in numbersDec 08 02:47
leahwe are high in number, but dividedDec 08 02:47
schestowitz-TRalso, we have more people sympathetic to our causeDec 08 02:47
schestowitz-TRif they know about itDec 08 02:47
schestowitz-TRmindless consumers can be swayedDec 08 02:47
leahand what i plan is a unified coup against the current corruption we've knownDec 08 02:48
schestowitz-TRthe oligarchs are very few Dec 08 02:48
leahreshape everything to what *people* wantDec 08 02:48
leahand that is: freedomDec 08 02:48
schestowitz-TRand they control maybe one million geeks with salariesDec 08 02:48
leahwhat people want is freedomDec 08 02:48
schestowitz-TRbut that leaves billions minus one millionDec 08 02:48
schestowitz-TRtheir 'tech merecenaries' Dec 08 02:48
leahlots of people though believe it is impossible, precisely because of this disunity. we need only a few people to create a spark, and get the ball rollingDec 08 02:48
leah"build it, and they will come"Dec 08 02:48
schestowitz-TRgemini is like thisDec 08 02:48
leahi've chosen to reveal myself here because i didn't intend to keep it a secret. i've completely charged course, over the last few months, and especially the last few weeksDec 08 02:49
leahi'm thinking biggerDec 08 02:49
leahthe discussion earlier about RMS is not the one we need to be having. we need to be thinking about the post-fsf world that is already taking shape now. the fsf is dying, and in my opinion, does not want to be savedDec 08 02:50
leahas evidenced by the fact that many of us, including myself, are being turned away or not even approached by themDec 08 02:50
leahthe events of early 2021 were a death knell either way: either they would have canned rms and the fsf would have been "fine" but overrun by corporate influences, as was already extremely evidentDec 08 02:51
leahorDec 08 02:51
leahit would just dieDec 08 02:51
leahbut earlier this year, i didn't see the latter scenario. i thought we were helping to save it. but no matter how that situation would have gone, it was doomedDec 08 02:52
leahcase in point...Dec 08 02:52
leah12-4 = 8Dec 08 02:52
leahok yesDec 08 02:52
leahjust over 8 monthsDec 08 02:52
leah8 months have passed. no new staff. most staff left. and they still haven't found a new EDDec 08 02:52
leahstuff isn't getting doneDec 08 02:53
leahit's precisely because of those events, that i now wish to build the new federation, which i've alluded to todayDec 08 02:53
leaha federation is less likely to be corrupted, or overthrown. because a federation is inherently democraticDec 08 02:53
leahdemocratic is the key word hereDec 08 02:54
leahwhat we've had so far is basically benevolent dictatorship. only now it's benignDec 08 02:54
leahwe need to move onDec 08 02:54
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DaemonFC<leah> i became disillusioned with the fsf in the last few years, precisely because of people like him being in it. and the overall direction and focus of the fsf being lacklustre at best. i saw that they were holding the movement backDec 08 02:55
leahschestowitz-TR: and you know what? something tells me that people like mjg59 wanted rms to remain at the fsf this yearDec 08 02:55
DaemonFCThere is no direction of the FSF anymore.Dec 08 02:55
DaemonFCThey're turning into another Linux Foundation.Dec 08 02:55
leahschestowitz-TR: the current state of things was predicted by the people in his sideDec 08 02:55
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leahschestowitz-TR: molly db and her ilk all knew that rms's position at the fsf was secureDec 08 02:56
leahwe were manipulatedDec 08 02:56
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leahthey are probably very happy with the current state of thingsDec 08 02:56
leahit was all subterfuge. i realized this, and have walked awayDec 08 02:57
AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2021/12/08/nasa_asteroid_algorithm/Dec 08 02:58
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leahdivide and conquer. so i decided:Dec 08 02:58
leahwhy not seek to unify instead?Dec 08 02:58
DaemonFCDebian followed the FSF's strange tear about device firmware for some reason.Dec 08 02:58
AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2021/12/07/facebook_genocide_rohingya/Dec 08 02:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Meta sued for $150B by Rohingya refugees escaping Myanmar • The RegisterDec 08 02:59
DaemonFCx86 PCs are basically unusable without it, so it brings about this very Windows XP-like Press F8 to load a driver thing.Dec 08 02:59
XRevan86DaemonFC: Next thing ye will ask why Libreboot strips off processor microcode bundling.Dec 08 03:01
leah"i know"Dec 08 03:01
XRevan86It's an iffy subject.Dec 08 03:01
leahschestowitz-TR: how did you know? perhaps you read my blogDec 08 03:01
leahi've been meaning to touch base with youDec 08 03:01
DaemonFCThere's pretty much no control over x86 and Libreboot seems to be restricted to the Core 2 era or something.Dec 08 03:02
schestowitz-TRleah: yes, I read the blogDec 08 03:02
schestowitz-TRrssDec 08 03:02
leahschestowitz-TR: just so we're clear, i deleted my rms articleDec 08 03:03
schestowitz-TRit had its days and impactDec 08 03:03
leahbut i have no intentions of fighting or opposing rms. i do still think he's an amazing person, and i thank him for starting our movementDec 08 03:03
leahi've merely outgrown him and seen through all the nonsense. i'm going off on my own and starting my own thingDec 08 03:04
leahi've told him he can be involved, if he wantsDec 08 03:04
leahi don't need him. but if he wants to help build the new movement, his will be a powerful voice that can be used for goodDec 08 03:04
leahinstead of the totally benign state of affairs we've seen in recent monthsDec 08 03:04
AdmFubarhttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/07/apple-china-deal-tim-cookDec 08 03:05
leahi actually still fully agree with the mission of the free software movement. and it's precisely because of that that i have to walk away from the fsf. i think their goose is cooked, more or lessDec 08 03:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Tim Cook reportedly signed five-year $275bn deal with Chinese officials | Apple | The GuardianDec 08 03:05
leahwe need something better. truly better, not the crap that gafam and their puppets at gnome foundation / osi tried to shove down our throatsDec 08 03:06
leahgiant corporations didn't give us free softwareDec 08 03:07
leahpeople didDec 08 03:07
leahgiant corperations didn't have us the right to repair movementDec 08 03:07
leahlouis rossman and several others didDec 08 03:07
leahgiant corporations didn't have us free art/culture movementDec 08 03:08
leahcreative commons didDec 08 03:08
leahi could go onDec 08 03:08
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schestowitz-TRCC is compromisedDec 08 03:15
schestowitz-TRthe org Dec 08 03:15
schestowitz-TRnot the movement or the conceptDec 08 03:15
leahwhich is why we need the federationDec 08 03:18
leahthe federation already exists. but it's not big enoughDec 08 03:18
leahwe can focus on educating people how to set up their own projects and infrastructure, free of such influencesDec 08 03:19
schestowitz-TRsocial control media is junkDec 08 03:19
schestowitz-TRwe need to dfederate blogDec 08 03:19
schestowitz-TRthere's this thing called rss feeds ;-)Dec 08 03:19
schestowitz-TRwhich is working rather well for federation;-)Dec 08 03:19
leahwe need more federationDec 08 03:20
leahand we need better ideological leadership in the freedom movementDec 08 03:21
leahi simply call it the freedom movement now, in my head. free software is a part of it. a critical part, but not the only partDec 08 03:21
schestowitz-TRright.Dec 08 03:21
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leahanywayDec 08 03:31
leahi hope i made a positive contribution to earlier's discussionDec 08 03:31
schestowitz-TRlots of ground coveredDec 08 03:32
leahthis was all in my head, driving me mad. i've decided to just own itDec 08 03:32
leahthere is a lot of great potential for our movements, currently being squandered. we can do much betterDec 08 03:32
leahand we willDec 08 03:32
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leahand people like mjg59 are scared shitless about people like me. i'm not alone either. i've been testing the waters, expressing these ideas in a few places. people love my ideaDec 08 03:33
leahthe people that just want power currently have it, and are afraid to lose itDec 08 03:33
leahand they willDec 08 03:33
leahright now they mock usDec 08 03:34
schestowitz-TRfreedom is always under attackedDec 08 03:34
schestowitz-TRthe question is, from whoDec 08 03:34
schestowitz-TRpeople who play with "Smart" things are not my friendsDec 08 03:34
schestowitz-TRthey are more like informantsDec 08 03:34
leahmjg59 is actually fairly benign. the only reason he has power is because the fsf temporarily gave it to him. and then there's google or whoever he works for nowDec 08 03:35
leahhe is not an individual, as such. he is a vessel, owned by someone else. he is a symbol of what happens when you sell outDec 08 03:35
schestowitz-TRyesDec 08 03:35
leahi wonder if such people will try to cancel me in the futureDec 08 03:36
leahi can see how they'd do it. but i'm not as vulnerable as their previous targetsDec 08 03:36
leahwatch the movie They Live and then re-read this chat logDec 08 03:37
leahlolDec 08 03:37
leahthe center cannot holdDec 08 03:38
schestowitz-TRbeing cancel isn't a 'thing'Dec 08 03:38
schestowitz-TRaccepting it "is"Dec 08 03:38
schestowitz-TRRMS did not accept itDec 08 03:38
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leahwhat do you mean by that?Dec 08 03:39
schestowitz"People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world."Dec 08 03:39
schestowitzRMS said he was canceled Dec 08 03:39
schestowitzbut he came backDec 08 03:39
schestowitzsort ofDec 08 03:39
schestowitzit was a phony scandalDec 08 03:39
leahhe never leftDec 08 03:39
leahthere is another aspect to this, though, that i don't think you're seeingDec 08 03:41
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leahdo you think rms is ultimately a force for good, in the year 2021?Dec 08 03:41
leah(in practise, in terms of everyday action)Dec 08 03:41
schestowitz-TRhe'll be okDec 08 03:42
schestowitz-TRhe has health issuesDec 08 03:43
schestowitz-TRbut he has been saying it for 2 decadesDec 08 03:43
leahthere are two aspects: intentions, and actionsDec 08 03:43
leahrms has pure intentionsDec 08 03:43
schestowitz-TR4am , gn, must rush to sleepDec 08 03:43
leahyes, very wellDec 08 03:44
schestowitz-TRthanks for the chatDec 08 03:44
schestowitz-TRnot escapingDec 08 03:44
schestowitz-TRjust suprt-tiredDec 08 03:44
schestowitz-TRand got many articles to finaliseDec 08 03:44
schestowitz-TRexclusivesDec 08 03:44
leahyour work is important, so i won't keep you. get some sleepDec 08 03:44
schestowitz-TRgnDec 08 03:45
leahtl;dr rms is fine, but we need to think to the future. the old guard have lost control, and corporations are exploiting that power vacuum. *we* need to blow the state and build the freedom federation insteadDec 08 03:46
leahwe have better ideas, and more peopleDec 08 03:46
leahi figure i'm only 30 years old. so i'll do my part, and keep going. i can't rely on the old guardDec 08 03:49
leahwe need to think for ourselves and rethink everything. or we will lose. the old status quo is completely dead. it already occured. i've merely realized that, in recent monthsDec 08 03:49
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leah*we* need to take initiatives. don't leave it up to the leader. the leaders are all dead, dying or corrupt. we will replace themDec 08 03:50
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DaemonFC<leah> mjg59 is actually fairly benign. the only reason he has power is because the fsf temporarily gave it to him. and then there's google or whoever he works for nowDec 08 04:21
DaemonFCNot even Goolag wanted him.Dec 08 04:21
DaemonFCThe whole Damore thing showed that Google rules with a Culture of Fear.Dec 08 04:25
DaemonFCAnd they have a lot of people like the SJW trolls who feel like it's their job to punish people for having an opinion that isn't like theirs.Dec 08 04:25
DaemonFCSo imagine how bad the conduct was for someone on Team SJW to be shown the door.Dec 08 04:26
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBjNpZ5t9S4Dec 08 04:39
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AdmFubarhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/07/kellogg-strike-workers-payDec 08 05:06
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DaemonFCI saw that.Dec 08 05:24
DaemonFCI don't know what other brands they make. I don't buy brands, usually.Dec 08 05:24
kingoffrancegiant corporations didn't give us free software / people did         that is an understatement.  a corporation is a charter/idea/spirit without a body.   not trying to be spooky, but incorporate: to give a body to.      put another way: corporations need people to "represent them", else they are "dead" (or shall we say "not incarnated").      it is much more fundamental: corporations need people to exist.   not the other way aroundDec 08 05:25
kingoffranceonce you have 2 people (or marriage, or....) then you have "one body" too, so they are perhaps unavoidableDec 08 05:25
kingoffrancecorporations are just hypothetical people that live forever (or until charter expires)    -- but they need people "representing" them to do anythingDec 08 05:26
kingoffranceartificial persons, whateverDec 08 05:26
kingoffrancethey have no body of their ownDec 08 05:26
AdmFubarabout haveway down their page is a list of their  brand product... but I'm sure they co-pack and private label for othersDec 08 05:27
kingoffrance*once you have a group of people acting jointlyDec 08 05:27
kingoffrancethey are an abstract group of people, joined, pretend its one giant person :)Dec 08 05:29
kingoffrancethey are literally imitation peopleDec 08 05:30
kingoffrancemaybe my point is, even if corporations did give people free software , that was still just people :DDec 08 05:31
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kingoffrancethey cant exist without people :DDec 08 05:32
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leahwhat the fuck is goolagDec 08 06:00
leahand what's the damore thingDec 08 06:00
leahschestowitz-TR: Demonfc mentioned it. do you know?Dec 08 06:01
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leahalsoDec 08 06:17
leahit's interesting that my cursed rss generator actually works. you mentioned earlier about rss on my blog. i don't actually use rss myself, but i inherited that feature from what my static site generator is a fork ofDec 08 06:18
leahi refactored a lot of that codeDec 08 06:19
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kingoffrancei think goolag is just his way of referring to google    gulagDec 08 08:16
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schestowitz[03:50] <leah> *we* need to take initiatives. don't leave it up to the leader. the leaders are all dead, dying or corrupt. we will replace themDec 08 09:09
schestowitzI would not phrase it like thatDec 08 09:09
schestowitzbut generally, yes... the young always replace the old. I'm still 39.Dec 08 09:09
schestowitz[06:00] <leah> and what's the damore thingDec 08 09:09
schestowitzDid you not hear?Dec 08 09:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | 5G now means some flights won’t be able to land when pilots can’t see the runway - The VergeDec 08 09:27
leahi hear nothing. i see nothing. i simply feel the world around meDec 08 09:32
leahand occasionally people feed me data on ircDec 08 09:33
leahthanks, i'll read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber nowDec 08 09:33
leahmy life is too worth living to care about other people's problems. unless they affect me, or i see other people's bullshit as world endingDec 08 09:33
leahsimilarly, that wikipedia article is a solid tl;drDec 08 09:34
leahis it basically just some guy getting fired for being a dick to women?Dec 08 09:35
leah(i skimmed it)Dec 08 09:35
leah"free speech" yeah. i just read more of it. bullshit. you get employed at a company, you keep your head down and you do your jobDec 08 09:36
leahimoDec 08 09:36
leahnot worth anyone's time. but you know how the media is, how sensationalist it is, how it feeds on people's empathy and turns it against themDec 08 09:37
leahcoming from an oppressed group of people myself, i kinda look at any criticism of diversity requirements in the workplace to be a solid nopeDec 08 09:39
leahespecially in techDec 08 09:39
leahbut people will draw their own conclusions. i don't care. if you're an asshole at work, you get fired. end of storyDec 08 09:40
leahbeing kind to others and not questioning their right to exist is usually a better approachDec 08 09:40
techrights-newsGot police records, added to http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant/ #github #copilot ... led by criminals. #microsoft #deletegithubDec 08 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part IX — Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot Sought to be Arrested One Day After Techrights Article About Him | TechrightsDec 08 09:41
leahif you're from a privileged group, you don't get to bitch about your "freedom of speech" when it relates to a policy designed to empower the very under-privileged group that you are not a part of and have no incentive to feel empathy forDec 08 09:42
leahi have now read the entire articleDec 08 09:42
leahyour thoughts?Dec 08 09:43
leahfrom what i can tell, that dude deserved to be canned. and i hope he'll be more sensitive to others, in the futureDec 08 09:44
leah"The memo and Google's subsequent dismissal of Damore in August 2017 became a subject of interest for the media. "Dec 08 09:45
leahwhat media? which media companiesDec 08 09:45
leahi can guess which ones :PDec 08 09:45
Ariadnefox news, newsmax, etcDec 08 09:50
Ariadnefreedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequencesDec 08 09:51
leahthisDec 08 09:51
Ariadneif you write a manifesto to a diversity executive describing women as being biologically unfit to work in the tech industry, welpDec 08 09:51
Ariadneplay stupid games, win stupid prizesDec 08 09:51
leahif i chew you up and spit you out for calling me a fag in #libreboot, your right to free speech is still intact. it's just that you've now earned my wrathDec 08 09:52
activelowi do not remember such an argument was ever madeDec 08 09:52
Ariadnethat was the primary thesis of the james damore manifestoDec 08 09:52
activelowi did read it, and do not remember he argued "unfit to work in tech"...Dec 08 09:53
activelowAriadne: citation?Dec 08 09:53
techrights-news[Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of #GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/Dec 08 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley | TechrightsDec 08 09:53
Ariadneactivelow: he cites simon cohen-baron, author of a totally debunked set of theories on this topicDec 08 09:57
leahi have a *really* easy solution for everyoneDec 08 09:57
leahjust be nice to others. and see other human beings as sentient lifeforms that want to help you and make the world a better place, just like youDec 08 09:57
leahstop arbitrarily separating people on meaningless criteria. equality guidelines in the workplace are a good thingDec 08 09:58
leahwriting a paper that argues against such things takes effortDec 08 09:58
leahwhereas being nice takes zero effort, and you might even make a friendDec 08 09:58
leahthink about itDec 08 09:58
leahand those guidelines are usually woefully inadequate btw, in most workplacesDec 08 10:00
leahas in, they will completely miss out on many different demographicsDec 08 10:00
leahfor instance talking about making the workforce 50/50 men/women, but they'll make no mention of non-binary people, and continue to not hire non-binary people because they dressed funny at the interviewDec 08 10:01
Ariadnetbh, employers requiring college education instead of actual demonstration of skills (like a portfolio of work) for tech jobs is the primary reason tech is a sausage festDec 08 10:02
schestowitz-TRvery true!Dec 08 10:02
leahwhat is true schestowitz-TR, what i said or what Ariadne said?Dec 08 10:02
leah(i also agree with what ariadne just said)Dec 08 10:02
schestowitz-TRabout formal ed versus skills/experienceDec 08 10:02
schestowitz-TRit's encouraging diploma millsDec 08 10:03
schestowitz-TRsame for :certs"Dec 08 10:03
Ariadneit is intentional gatekeeping that is biased towards privileged menDec 08 10:03
leahmy resume sucksDec 08 10:03
schestowitz-TRwhich sometimes just mean amecica-style questionsDec 08 10:03
leahi actually wrote a cv as a joke onceDec 08 10:03
schestowitz-TRand some weeks of memorising stuffDec 08 10:03
leahi'm unemployableDec 08 10:03
schestowitz-TR*American-styleDec 08 10:03
Ariadneit's funny, i get companies emailing me to come work for them to help them manage their deployments of *things I wrote*Dec 08 10:03
leahand yet i run circles around many of my peersDec 08 10:03
leahi've done things they don't even teach in universityDec 08 10:03
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Ariadneand then they are like you have to have XYZ degree with XYZ GPA and blah blahDec 08 10:04
leahi could teach a classDec 08 10:04
schestowitzleah: read http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/teaching-cybersecurity/Dec 08 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dr. Andy Farnell on Teaching Cybersecurity in an Age of ‘Fake Security’ | TechrightsDec 08 10:04
Ariadnelike, you're reaching out to me, to do work for you, on things i've written that you use, but i have to prove my domain expertise?  really?Dec 08 10:04
leahand then some jackass writes a book about something completely inferior, and gets emmy buzzDec 08 10:05
activelowtechnology and science are in very bad shapeDec 08 10:05
activelowunsustainable, clusterfucked beyond repairDec 08 10:05
leahAriadne: and what you do is highly innovative and actually making a big difference in the worldDec 08 10:06
leahalpine is amazingDec 08 10:06
schestowitz> Please redact the address and name of the victim for her safety. That isDec 08 10:06
schestowitz> her home address, not his.Dec 08 10:06
schestowitzoopsDec 08 10:06
schestowitzI forgotDec 08 10:06
leah?Dec 08 10:06
schestowitz-TRhttp://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/ Dec 08 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley | TechrightsDec 08 10:06
leahanywayDec 08 10:06
leahpeople get worked up about the completely wrong thingsDec 08 10:07
leahschestowitz-TR: most "security" people are bullshitDec 08 10:07
leahi guess what you refer to as "fake security"Dec 08 10:07
leaha certain person previously mentioned here rants about how libreboot on gm45 thinkpads lack a tpm, and regularly tweets about secureboot nonsense (which only signs the bootloader, and in a completely asinine way)Dec 08 10:09
leahmeanwhile, i'm telling people AHCI/SATA devices are potentially insecure due to the theoretically possibility of DMA attacks, telling them how to set up fully encrypted systems on USB flash drives, and showing them how to gpg-check their linux kernel at boot timeDec 08 10:10
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leahand explaining to them why usb is safer, due to lack of dma, and how even if the usb host controller is malicious, all it can do is basically dd if=/dev/zero your dataDec 08 10:10
leahif said data is encryptedDec 08 10:11
leahkinda the same principle as https as a defense against men in the middle attacksDec 08 10:11
leahand this, based on one evening with someone on #coreboot irc studying the AHCI specDec 08 10:12
leahand finding an obscure paragraph in itDec 08 10:12
leah:PDec 08 10:12
leahall of this is on libreboot.orgDec 08 10:13
leahand done out of boredomDec 08 10:13
activelowi am planning to drop GNU compiler, if possible, and replace it with pcc; to let the fsf knowDec 08 10:14
activelowgcc is a monstrosity of vendor specific malicious extensionsDec 08 10:14
leahwell that's not importantDec 08 10:14
activelowGCC is the #1 project of the FSFDec 08 10:14
leahuse llvmDec 08 10:14
activelowcertainly notDec 08 10:15
leahpcc?Dec 08 10:15
activelowi fiddled for weeks, to cleanup the dependency graph alreadyDec 08 10:15
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leahhttp://pcc.ludd.ltu.se/ right?Dec 08 10:16
activelowyes, pcc the original *nix compilerDec 08 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://pcc.ludd.ltu.se/ )Dec 08 10:16
leahinterestingDec 08 10:16
activelowcurrently, i re-integrate gcc-4.7.4 into my gentoo-profile, with all c++ removed, as a first measureDec 08 10:16
leahsounds funDec 08 10:17
activelowit is an awful hackjobDec 08 10:17
leahschestowitz-TR: "industry" is bullshitDec 08 10:17
leahthe real work is done by people who get no recognitionDec 08 10:17
Ariadne90% of security industry is hoarding vulnerability data and not letting people get access to itDec 08 10:17
schestowitz-TR^^Dec 08 10:18
leahif you want to get rich off of someone else's work, give them "exciting opportunities" and a company carDec 08 10:19
leahor better yetDec 08 10:19
leahdownload it from their git repositoryDec 08 10:20
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leahi've met tons of really cool people that get completely sequestered by that, and end up making the world worseDec 08 10:21
leahbecause their work is hoarded by their bossDec 08 10:21
leahactivelow: what is your project?Dec 08 10:21
leahthat you are using pcc forDec 08 10:21
activelowleah: one idea is i can retain a 100% source-based workflow on low-power embedded systemsDec 08 10:22
activelowbefore that, i removed c++ and all dependencies, and gcc-4.7.4 is the last known Gnu compiler which doesn't require c++ to bootstrap itselfDec 08 10:23
activelownext, i'll replace gcc with pcc and see what breaks; and finally, i can drop gcc entirely (never merged llvm/clang)Dec 08 10:24
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activelowfurthermore, most free/opensource hardware is limited to low-power embeddedDec 08 10:25
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activelowleah: however i do not think the gap from opensource software to fully opensource hardware can be bridgedDec 08 10:26
leahwhy not?Dec 08 10:26
activelowopensource hardware is mostly limited to gigatron ttl, z80 or mos6502 era systemsDec 08 10:26
activelowwhich is, at best 16bit UnixDec 08 10:26
leahz80 can play alex kidd at leastDec 08 10:27
activelowinteresting sidenote: former kernel hacker Alan Cox departed into 16bit unix real, with FuzixOSDec 08 10:27
leahwhat do you think about riscvDec 08 10:27
activelow*realmDec 08 10:27
activelowleah: i won't touch risc-vDec 08 10:27
leahwhy notDec 08 10:27
activelowfor both, political and practical reasonsDec 08 10:27
leahand what do/will you touchDec 08 10:28
activelowrisc-v requires backporting to compilers/kernel-versions which would be barely  acceptable, if at allDec 08 10:28
activelowleah: j-core.org could be a better choice for 32bit unix, then PCC compiler supports various targetsDec 08 10:28
activelowfor some of them Verilog is available for FPGA deployment: sparc64 (sparc leon), mips, 68k; and the microcontrollers mentioned aboveDec 08 10:29
activelowalthough, i do not recommend any of them, there is problems with all of themDec 08 10:29
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activelowand the only system which may be truly 100% opensource and free is the gigatron ttl projectDec 08 10:30
activelowneedless to say, the gap between this type of open/free hardware and gnu/linux is giganticDec 08 10:30
leahi see, so you aren't seeking any sort of nuance inbetweenDec 08 10:31
leahyou want to control every aspectDec 08 10:31
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activelowno, i only verify if it would at least be possible to do a review; of cause i cannot review and control everything, and i do not want to eitherDec 08 10:32
leahthis is a bit heavy for me since i'm starting to feel the urge to take a napDec 08 10:33
leahbut what you're describing sounds coolDec 08 10:33
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leahinteresting, i checked j-core.org at your recommendationDec 08 10:34
leahi've read about SuperH beforeDec 08 10:34
techrights-news#microsoft ... SO #woke ... hiring and thus protecting (from ARREST) men who repeatedly assault MULTIPLE women. Hiring them for TOP roles, IN SPITE of warnings from their victims http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/Dec 08 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley | TechrightsDec 08 10:34
leahthe context at the time was, a friend and i were laughing at a video of how the name is actually pronounced in japaneseDec 08 10:35
activelowi do not explicitely recommend j-core.org; the SH2 ISA Verilog is available, however the devs could not deploy without malicious Xilinx toolingDec 08 10:35
leahand how it sounded similar to another word in that language which was a bit lewd (and also i'm interested in retro console stuff, and like to learn about those old machines. SuperH was used on the sega saturn right?)Dec 08 10:36
activelowand j-core has another important advantage: gcc supported this ISA for decadesDec 08 10:36
activelowlinux kernel too doesDec 08 10:36
leahi wish i could still find the videoDec 08 10:40
leahsomething is compelling me to ask you: have you ever heard of a project called 86box?Dec 08 10:40
activelownot yet leah Dec 08 10:41
leahhttps://86box.net/ it's not related at all to what you're discussing, except i think you'd find this project very interestingDec 08 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-86box.net | 86Box | Emulator of retro x86-based machinesDec 08 10:41
leahas an academic exerciseDec 08 10:41
leahit's not fpga stuff. it's a software-based x86 emulator. focusing on accuracyDec 08 10:42
activelowi think i prefer the gigatron for this type of studiesDec 08 10:42
leahthere's a recent fork of it called pcbox, which has pentium3 support with sse fully emulatedDec 08 10:42
leahnot verilog stuff thoughDec 08 10:42
leahbut i find what you're working on cool tooDec 08 10:43
leahwell, the reason i bring up 86box/pcbox is because, in the future, i see the possibility of implementing completely accurate x86 systems on FPGADec 08 10:43
activelowi won't touch any x86Dec 08 10:44
activelowwaste of time and effortsDec 08 10:44
leahthe emulator is quite competent. though due to its very nature, on even the latest hardware, it only runs the emulated machines at a few percent real time speedDec 08 10:44
leahwell, older stuff is going to be full speed. newer stuff is very slowDec 08 10:44
leahyeah well, you're talking about that j-core siteDec 08 10:44
leahand it's talking about fpga stuffDec 08 10:44
activelowi have absolutely zero interest in the Wintel platformDec 08 10:44
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activelowmy favorite would be the gigatron, however i haven't got one yet, and before this i will finish some embedded-linux distro for personal useDec 08 10:45
leahthere have been instances in the past where fpga's were literally made because emulators were very competent, and a good reference to describe how the systems functionDec 08 10:45
techrights-newsProprietaryDec 08 10:45
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leahe.g. MiSTERDec 08 10:45
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Microsoft a big part of the cyber security problem: Proofpoint exec https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-a-big-part-of-the-cyber-security-problem-proofpoint-exec.htmlDec 08 10:45
-altlink_9ac/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-a-big-part-of-the-cyber-security-problem-proofpoint-exec.htmlDec 08 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Microsoft a big part of the cyber security problem: Proofpoint execDec 08 10:45
leahi'd like to learn verilog, one dayDec 08 10:45
activelowmaybe, even this isn't necessary, the gigatron is build from ttl chipsDec 08 10:46
activelowand most FPGA/Verilog/VHDL related tooling is malicious and proprietaryDec 08 10:46
leahthat name keeps triggering me and ive just realized whyDec 08 10:46
leahin the videogame "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" there's an advert on the in-game car radio, that talks about a computer gaming system called the gigatronDec 08 10:47
activelowand hardware too can be designed without verilog; with pencil and paper, down to the digital circuitryDec 08 10:47
leahi'm not making that up eitherDec 08 10:47
activelowincluding hazard free designsDec 08 10:47
leahi'm guessing your gigatron is real thoughDec 08 10:47
leahwait noDec 08 10:48
leahit's called degenatronDec 08 10:48
activelowit's not mine, there was two hackers in the netherlands who published it; just saying concerning opensource hardware and software FSF and affiliates could learn somethingDec 08 10:48
leahsorry lolDec 08 10:48
activelowleah: degenatron?Dec 08 10:48
leahyeah sorry i got mixed upDec 08 10:49
leahi'm being stupidDec 08 10:49
schestowitz-TRnot stupidDec 08 10:49
schestowitz-TRpeople appreciate your workDec 08 10:49
leahhow does that appreciate to this lolDec 08 10:49
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ The vice president should not be using #Bluetooth headphones https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/7/22822431/kamala-harris-bluetooth-security-hacking-headphonesDec 08 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The vice president should not be using Bluetooth headphones - The VergeDec 08 10:49
schestowitz-TRleah: maybe a lack of sleepDec 08 10:50
schestowitz-TRI had sleep very late, 4-8:30amDec 08 10:50
schestowitz-TRafaik, you've been nocturnal todayDec 08 10:50
leahactivelow: schestowitz-TR https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Qs7vQh06osgDec 08 10:50
leahlolDec 08 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-invidious.osi.kr | GTA Vice City - Degenatron Commercial - InvidiousDec 08 10:50
schestowitz-TRleah: good news, today (yes, today) we've migrated to gemtext for irc logsDec 08 10:51
schestowitze.g. gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-071221.gmiDec 08 10:51
leahthat is very neutral news, but a wonderful technical achievementDec 08 10:51
leahi still have gemtext support on todo for untitledDec 08 10:51
leahwhat i have in mind for untitled is very cursed, potentiallyDec 08 10:52
leahhave you ever heard of a thing called a *dynamic* site generator?Dec 08 10:52
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leahbecause i've invented it. in my headDec 08 10:52
leahi just need to implement itDec 08 10:52
leah>write pages in gemtext or markdownDec 08 10:53
leah>convert gemtext to markdownDec 08 10:53
leah>markdown to html, for web version of a site. with pandoc templatesDec 08 10:53
leahnow, so far what we have is a boring static site generatorDec 08 10:53
leahnow imagine you have a hidden section of your site, inaccessible to the public, but you can put server side code in itDec 08 10:54
leahand now imagine the static site generator can generate pages in many different extensions. including .phpDec 08 10:54
leahand the markdown-written pages are generated into htmlDec 08 10:54
leahbut, optionally, for a given page or set of pages, you can insert server side codeDec 08 10:54
Ariadneidk who techrights pissed off today but i just had to block a shitload of udp traffic directed at itDec 08 10:54
leahuntitled wouldn't do server side stuffDec 08 10:54
leahbut you would use it with such a thingDec 08 10:55
leahe.g. php preprocessorDec 08 10:55
leahor whatever else you want to useDec 08 10:55
leahhybrid gemtext/markdown dynamic site generatorDec 08 10:55
leahnow tell me:Dec 08 10:55
leahis this an abomination that you would put out of its miseryDec 08 10:55
leahor do you think this idea is cool?Dec 08 10:55
leahbecause i think it could really be amazingDec 08 10:55
leah>dynamic site generatorDec 08 10:56
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leahthe power and flexibility of writing a site in a simplified markup languageDec 08 10:56
leahbut with the html version having server side code for whatever you want to doDec 08 10:56
leahandDec 08 10:56
leahstill write it in bashDec 08 10:56
leah100% bashDec 08 10:56
leahi've already seen the code, in my head. writing it is on todoDec 08 10:57
leahof course, in this instance i don't think about gemini://Dec 08 10:57
leahi'm thinking of gemtext as simply an easier markup language, to be converted into html using pandoc. with an html templateDec 08 10:57
leahbut you could still design your site with gemini:// in mind tooDec 08 10:58
leahschestowitz: can gemini do template stuffDec 08 10:58
leahlike. you have pages. that are just documents for different topicsDec 08 10:58
leahbut then you have common header/navigation/footerDec 08 10:58
leahcan gemini do thatDec 08 10:58
leahor does every gemtext file have to link to each thing you want it to link toDec 08 10:58
leahi still haven't actually looked at gemini yet. but i've looked at the gemtext markup language itselfDec 08 10:59
leah*dynamic* site generatorDec 08 11:00
leahthat can also be a normal static site generator. just don't put server side code in your siteDec 08 11:00
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leahit wouldn't be very usable for, say, the next wordpress. but can be useful for forms and suchDec 08 11:01
schestowitz-TR[10:58] <leah> but then you have common header/navigation/footerDec 08 11:01
leahin pandoc markdown, it's possible to still put html in the markdown fileDec 08 11:01
schestowitz-TRyes, you can do loads of thingsDec 08 11:01
leahand pandoc will not touch itDec 08 11:01
schestowitz-TRone option is cat'ing things inDec 08 11:01
leahthat's literally what untitled doesDec 08 11:02
schestowitz-TRwith a cron job that keeps the capsule up to dateDec 08 11:02
leahmore or lessDec 08 11:02
leahtl;dr there is a happy medium between wordpress, and "static site generator"Dec 08 11:02
leahand that's the dynamic site generator. and nobody has tried it yet i don't thinkDec 08 11:02
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Gemini/Dec 08 11:03
schestowitzall the codeDec 08 11:03
schestowitzupdated from git repeatedlyDec 08 11:03
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schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-071221.gmiDec 08 11:04
leahschestowitz: what's the deal anyway, are you going to ditch http altogether?Dec 08 11:05
schestowitz-TRnoDec 08 11:07
schestowitz-TRbut we promote alternatives tooDec 08 11:07
schestowitz-TRwww is proprietaryDec 08 11:08
schestowitz-TRDRM and chrome clonesDec 08 11:08
schestowitz-TRmany sites cannot be accessed with free browsers anymoreDec 08 11:08
schestowitz-TRas in freedom-repsectingDec 08 11:08
schestowitz-TRnot 'free spyware'Dec 08 11:08
schestowitz-TRmore and more people flock to geminiDec 08 11:08
schestowitz-TRsince midnigh today 11k+ page requests in our gemini capsuleDec 08 11:09
schestowitz-TRin gemini, hit typically means pageDec 08 11:09
schestowitz-TRin www, hit can mean "fetch gif of bulletpoint from css file"Dec 08 11:09
schestowitz-TRwww is very bloatedDec 08 11:10
schestowitz-TRand it encourages centralisation in a lot of waysDec 08 11:10
schestowitz-TRmany people don't realise itDec 08 11:10
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schestowitz-TRunless you show them all the evidence and they go, "oh..."Dec 08 11:10
schestowitz-TRnow the www access is controlled by about 230 CAsDec 08 11:10
schestowitz-TRand if you're not 'authorised' by them, they will call you 'dark web' soonDec 08 11:11
schestowitz-TRand prevent people from even accessing the siteDec 08 11:11
schestowitz-TRthe other night DaemonFC showed that Zemlin's PAC now promotes Microsoft's and Bill's censorship initiativesDec 08 11:11
schestowitz-TRsite blocking basicallDec 08 11:11
schestowitz-TRLF likes censorshipDec 08 11:11
schestowitz-TRand paid by Microsoft to promote thisDec 08 11:11
DaemonFCYeah, and they'll push for Fakebook to use this.Dec 08 11:12
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Twitter is testing changes to the way it handles reported tweets https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/7/22822878/twitter-testing-changes-report-tweet-abuse-suspicious-behaviorDec 08 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Twitter is testing changes to the way it handles reported tweets - The VergeDec 08 11:12
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: fb already does itDec 08 11:12
DaemonFCEventually it'll shadowban anything that doesn't come from Uncle Bill's sources, like the Grauniad and CNN.Dec 08 11:12
schestowitz-TRyou said the even warned you about stallman.orgDec 08 11:12
schestowitz-TRwith "legit" cert and allDec 08 11:12
techrights-news● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Facebook user data approach gets a major blow https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/big-data/facebook-user-data-approach-gets-a-major-blow/88143610Dec 08 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | meta: Facebook user data approach gets a major blow, IT News, ET CIODec 08 11:13
techrights-news● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Germany chip chemical supplier to spend $1 billion in U.S., pairs with #Palantir on supply chain data https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/german-chip-chemical-supplier-to-spend-1-billion-in-u-s-pairs-with-palantir-on-supply-chain-data/88156094Dec 08 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | semiconductor manufacturing: German chip chemical supplier to spend $1 billion in U.S., pairs with Palantir on supply chain data, IT News, ET CIODec 08 11:13
DaemonFCYeah, but they do it with WGN too, on articles that promote forced "vaccination".Dec 08 11:13
schestowitzleah: read http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/Dec 08 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | TechrightsDec 08 11:13
DaemonFC"Illinois: Jesse White (D) is retiring after six terms. However, since the secretary of state mostly manages state records and automobile services and does not run elections, this will not be a major target for either party. Several Democrats and two Republicans have filed nevertheless."Dec 08 11:16
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: vaccination is goodDec 08 11:16
DaemonFCI don't agree.Dec 08 11:16
schestowitz-TRbut not this thingDec 08 11:16
schestowitz-TRand not this wayDec 08 11:16
DaemonFCWIth the SoS thing.Dec 08 11:16
schestowitz-TRthey redefine antixvaxDec 08 11:17
schestowitz-TRand they also redefine uvaccinatedDec 08 11:17
schestowitz-TRto suit one particular product or patent poolDec 08 11:17
schestowitz-TRwe should not accept this misuse of wordsDec 08 11:17
DaemonFCThe Republicans should push for that because it's a chance to gut a hive of unionized "public workers" who draw massive state benefits, and contribute their union dues to the Democrats.Dec 08 11:17
DaemonFCThe DMV, of course.Dec 08 11:17
DaemonFCThey should push to make the employees redundant and get foot traffic down. Like Indiana did.Dec 08 11:18
DaemonFCLicenses that expire every 7 years instead of 4 doesn't make a lot of difference to public safety, just as one license plate on the back of the car works just as well as plates on both sides.Dec 08 11:19
DaemonFCThe difference is we could eliminate nearly half the positions at the DMV and save a million dollars a year issuing front plates.Dec 08 11:19
leahooooh goodie. covid shitDec 08 11:20
activelowlolDec 08 11:20
*leah will get back to her thingsDec 08 11:20
activelowbyeDec 08 11:20
schestowitz-TR0/Dec 08 11:20
leahget your booster shot and enjoy your lifeDec 08 11:21
schestowitz-TRwhich booster?Dec 08 11:21
schestowitz-TR1st booster?Dec 08 11:21
schestowitz-TR2nd booster?Dec 08 11:21
schestowitz-TR1st booster booster? (5th)Dec 08 11:21
leahin UK they're doing 3rd booster shots nowDec 08 11:21
schestowitz-TRvaccines typically don't work this wayDec 08 11:22
schestowitz-TRmy sister in law just got moderna Dec 08 11:22
leahyeah it's mRNA stuffDec 08 11:22
schestowitz-TRthe arm and stuff swelledDec 08 11:22
DaemonFC"Steve Bullock, a Democrat who has won three statewide elections in very red Montana (AG + governor x2) and lost one (Senate), has written an op-ed in The New York Times telling Democrats to get out of their cities and meet with rural voters if they want to win elections. Simply conceding all rural voters to the Republicans is not a good idea because there simply aren't enough dependable urban voters to win elections consistently and in some Dec 08 11:22
DaemonFCstates there aren't enough under any conditions. But if Democrats would do a better job of talking to rural voters, they could win statewide in purple states and even in some cases in red states, as Bullock did three times.Dec 08 11:22
DaemonFCHis first point is that Democrats have a strong tendency to be condescending to rural voters and treat them as dumb yokels who don't understand how they should live and think, but who can be enlightened by woke urban Democrats who know how things truly are. That doesn't work. It really doesn't. If Democrats want to consistently win elections outside of deep blue states, they need to come to understand this."Dec 08 11:22
DaemonFCItDec 08 11:22
schestowitz-TRsame with her husbandDec 08 11:22
leahi heard it described basically like ram in a computerDec 08 11:22
schestowitz-TRand they're about my ageDec 08 11:22
schestowitz-TRnot at risk of deathDec 08 11:22
DaemonFCIt's not the goal of trolls like Matt Goolag to convince anyone else their policies are right.Dec 08 11:22
leahthe vaccines wear offDec 08 11:22
activelowflu vaccination is scheduled once a year, with a new ingredient everytimeDec 08 11:22
schestowitz-TRleah: all vaccines doDec 08 11:22
DaemonFCMatt Goolag is basically a Democrat Trump who just wants to "own" the other side.Dec 08 11:22
schestowitz-TRbut this one is very shittyDec 08 11:23
leahRNA stuff is only temporary and needs to be done every now and then. they're saying every yearDec 08 11:23
leahlike the flu shotsDec 08 11:23
schestowitz-TRthey need to improveDec 08 11:23
activelowthey inject three strains at once, and next year one strain is swapped against anotherDec 08 11:23
schestowitz-TRbut with patent pools and lots of moneyDec 08 11:23
schestowitz-TR1) they don't need to improveDec 08 11:23
leahi get my booster soonDec 08 11:23
schestowitz-TR2) financial incentive to keep this virus aroundDec 08 11:23
schestowitz-TRleah: I get vaccinatedDec 08 11:23
schestowitz-TRnot against itDec 08 11:23
schestowitz-TRthe media redefined termsDec 08 11:24
*leah will grab a booster cup of coffeeDec 08 11:24
schestowitz-TRhahaDec 08 11:24
schestowitz-TRI cracked open a jar yesterdayDec 08 11:24
schestowitz-TRafter a week "off" caffeineDec 08 11:25
leahi really am grabbing coffeeDec 08 11:25
schestowitz-TRwe have BIG reports on EPO soonDec 08 11:25
schestowitz-TRand EU authorities take noteDec 08 11:25
DaemonFC"With the exception of Obama, Democrats do have a tendency to not acknowledge that there are white working class or white poor people. I sometimes wonder if they actually forgot that they exist."Dec 08 11:26
DaemonFCThis.Dec 08 11:26
techrights-news● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes ☞ #Russia fines Gulag over content, bigger penalty looms https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/government-policy/russia-fines-google-over-content-bigger-penalty-looms/88144802Dec 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | google: Russia fines Google over content, bigger penalty looms, IT News, ET CIODec 08 11:26
DaemonFCDemocrats are seen by rural voters as the party that wants to put poor inner city blacks on welfare and keep them that way so they're hooked and just have to keep voting for a poverty trap with no way out.Dec 08 11:27
DaemonFCAdditionally, they see Democrats don't even talk about white poverty, at all.Dec 08 11:27
DaemonFCThis makes it easy to scream Fuck Joe Biden, because he's never talking about what to do about white poverty and how to bring jobs to the US, just endless poverty trap entitlement programs for inner cities.Dec 08 11:28
DaemonFCOnes that have nothing to pay for them, and are causing horrendous inflation for people who don't qualify.Dec 08 11:29
DaemonFC"I spent the first thirty years of my life in rural communities and know from personal experience that many country people are insular, narrow-minded, and unusually resistant to change. They trust their preachers more than their teachers. They see any kind of government assistance as a zero-sum game, i.e., if one group 'wins,' they lose."Dec 08 11:30
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: back to tech nowDec 08 11:30
schestowitz-TRpleaseDec 08 11:30
DaemonFCWell, oddly that's because it's how "public assistance" works. They set the income limits so low that anyone who works at all can't possibly get it, just pay for it.Dec 08 11:30
DaemonFCThe normal income limits for food stamps, pretty much cuts off anyone who works more than about half of full time at minimum wage in a blue state.Dec 08 11:32
DaemonFCNice way to cause resentment.Dec 08 11:32
DaemonFCIllinois is fragmenting into micro-states, because the Democrats think they're going to come in and tell everyone how they'll live, and then prosecutors and city halls say "We're not going to enforce this.".Dec 08 11:33
DaemonFCOr they realize they're going to have to let an abortion factory in, so they use zoning laws, and they refuse to bring FOID Act indictments to court unless you're like some kind of a kingpin they're throwing the book at anyway, etc.Dec 08 11:34
DaemonFCIt really makes people like Bill Gates mad when they want to control everyone and how they're allowed to think.Dec 08 11:36
DaemonFCAnd then there's pushback from the ground up and new platforms they can't control.Dec 08 11:36
DaemonFCAnd Stallman and Bill Gates agree about children a lot.Dec 08 11:36
DaemonFCNot just that Epstein may have had some that "agreed", but that there should be more abortions because of some stupid bird that nobody heard about that may or may not be threatened with "climate change".Dec 08 11:37
DaemonFCIt wouldn't surprise me if Stallman promotes natrium reactors next.Dec 08 11:38
DaemonFCBecause the Grauniad says we need them.Dec 08 11:38
DaemonFCThis isn't activism. This is outsourcing thinking to corrupt fake news sources.Dec 08 11:38
schestowitz-TRnoise sourcesDec 08 11:39
schestowitz-TRlobbyingDec 08 11:39
schestowitz-TRadvertisingDec 08 11:39
schestowitz-TRwith degrees in english and historyDec 08 11:39
schestowitz-TRdoing assignementsDec 08 11:39
schestowitz-TR"write this article about this [sponsors' stakeholding]"Dec 08 11:39
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DaemonFCYeah, CNN Underscored has a quota about how many product reviews you write per week. At least 5-8.Dec 08 11:41
techrights-news[Teaser] Rape is Not a Joke • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/rape-not-a-joke/ ䷉ #Techrights #microsoft #github #deletegithub #NatFriedman | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/rape-not-a-joke/Dec 08 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Rape is Not a Joke | TechrightsDec 08 11:41
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: 'reviews'Dec 08 11:41
DaemonFCSo I wonder how people get any time with a product they "review" or if they just use talking points.Dec 08 11:41
schestowitz-TRscare quotesDec 08 11:41
schestowitz-TRthe web is webspamDec 08 11:41
schestowitz-TRweb spamfarmsDec 08 11:41
schestowitz-TRand we should call that outDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRyou search for reviews on something you want to buyDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRgoogle spams you with adsDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRand the search results are also adsDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRso it's ads and adsDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRand you buy based on ads, not infoDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRgo to geminiDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRweb = mind cancel these daysDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRtoo much PR and spamDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TReven wikipedia got badly distortedDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRit's like a platform for PR firms to collaborateaDec 08 11:42
schestowitz-TRand those who edit and are not paid have their edited undoneDec 08 11:43
schestowitz-TRbecause it's not their full-time jobDec 08 11:43
schestowitz-TResp. in particular  areas and topicsDec 08 11:43
schestowitz-TRthe "high-prized" onesDec 08 11:43
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheEconomist #Energy ☞ [Cryptocurrency] #lobbying is going ballistic https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/12/07/crypto-lobbying-is-going-ballisticDec 08 11:44
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DaemonFCBeans and spam, spam and eggs, eggs, coffee and spam.....Dec 08 11:44
techrights-news#Zuckerberg family devouring things for financial gain https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/zuckerberg-chan-invest-34b-science-advances-81613649 #lobbying #bribery #oligarchyDec 08 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Zuckerberg, Chan to invest up to $3.4B for science advances - ABC NewsDec 08 11:45
DaemonFCspam spam spam spam!!!!Dec 08 11:45
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheHill ☞ Language requiring companies to report cyberattacks left out of defense bill https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/584774-language-requiring-companies-to-report-cyberattacks-left-out-of-defenseDec 08 11:45
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DaemonFCI always have some cans of spam around because you can do almost anything with it.Dec 08 11:45
techrights-news● NEWS ● #BroadbandBreakfast #Internet ☞ Critics Concerned Infrastructure Bill Money Will Go to Satellites, Harm Fiber Builds https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/12/critics-concerned-infrastructure-bill-money-will-go-to-satellites-harm-fiber-builds/ #grifting and plunder by opportunists with lobbyists, who buy the politiciansDec 08 11:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Critics Concerned Infrastructure Bill Money Will Go to Satellites, Harm Fiber Builds : Broadband BreakfastDec 08 11:46
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: military foodDec 08 11:46
DaemonFCSoldiers in WWII got so tired of it because it was on the menu almost every day.Dec 08 11:46
techrights-news● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Monopolies ☞ U.S. says Nvidia-Arm deal harms market for networking, self-driving car chips https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/government-policy/u-s-says-nvidia-arm-deal-harms-market-for-networking-self-driving-car-chips/88144638Dec 08 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | nvidia: U.S. says Nvidia-Arm deal harms market for networking, self-driving car chips, IT News, ET CIODec 08 11:47
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Axios #Monopolies ☞ Scoop: Over 200 papers quietly sue Big Tech https://www.axios.com/1-local-newspapers-lawsuits-facebook-google-3c3dee3a-cce3-49ef-b0a2-7a98c2e15c91.html 'Big Tech' is an unhelpful term: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/Dec 08 11:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Over 200 newspapers now involved in quiet lawsuits v. Google, Facebook - AxiosDec 08 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | TechrightsDec 08 11:47
DaemonFCYes, it's cheap, it's stable (a can is good for about 10 years, and it's not objectionable, and can be cooked almost any way you want it.Dec 08 11:47
DaemonFCIt makes for a good military ration, although I hear they actually got worse.Dec 08 11:48
DaemonFCEspecially the vegetarian ones.Dec 08 11:48
DaemonFCMREs are not meant to be gourmet dining, they're meant so you can have _something_ to eat even under the most difficult circumstances out in the field.Dec 08 11:49
DaemonFCAnd they tend to include things like gum, basic medical supplies you can pocket for later, and toilet paper.Dec 08 11:49
DaemonFCThe medical kit tends to be different based on climate and what reason you'd have to use it.Dec 08 11:50
DaemonFCFor example, the emergency rations for downed fighter pilots has food, pain pills, and stimulants in case you end up in a situation where you have to keep moving and can't afford to fall asleep.Dec 08 11:51
DaemonFCIf you have people after you trying to kill you, staying up for a few days with stimulants is less dangerous.Dec 08 11:51
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Tor ☞ Responding to Tor #censorship in #Russia https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ @XRevan86 #ruDec 08 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Responding to Tor censorship in Russia | The Tor ProjectDec 08 11:53
DaemonFCIt's usually amphetamines, not caffeine.Dec 08 11:53
DaemonFCCaffeine as a stay awake pill usually works to keep you going for a little while, but it's not long haul stuff. You get jittery and then crash.Dec 08 11:53
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #DemocracyNow #patent #patents ☞ As World Confronts MEGATRON Variant, Top 8 #Pfizer & #Moderna Investors Make $10 Billion in a Week https://www.democracynow.org/2021/12/7/pfizer_and_moderna_shareholders_profitDec 08 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | As World Confronts Omicron Variant, Top 8 Pfizer & Moderna Investors Make $10 Billion in a Week | Democracy Now!Dec 08 12:06
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techrights-news"Funding Is Stalled" is NOT the problem. FUNDING is NOT the problem. The problem is the #patent #monopolies https://www.democracynow.org/2021/12/7/biden_omicron_variant_vaccine_stalls #patent #greed #monopolyDec 08 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | U.S. Vowed to Help Prevent New Variants by Closing Global Vaccine Gap, But Plan’s Funding Is Stalled | Democracy Now!Dec 08 12:12
techrights-news#jeffreyepstein and Maxwell https://www.rawstory.com/ghislaine-maxwell-outsourced-acts-for-jeffrey-epstein-jury-hears/ while #billgates (the son of another Maxwell) tried to release Epstein from prison http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/Dec 08 12:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | TechrightsDec 08 12:14
schestowitz"...  from our members, including OpenSSF’s premier members 1Password, AWS, Cisco, Citi, Dell Technologies, Ericsson, Meta, Fidelity, GitHub, Google, Huawei, Intel, IBM, JP Morgan Chase, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, Oracle, Red Hat, Snyk, and VMWare."Dec 08 12:21
schestowitzx https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/a-2021-linux-foundation-update-from-the%E2%80%AD-%E2%80%ACexecutive-director/Dec 08 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | A 2021 Linux Foundation Update from the‭ ‬Executive Director - Linux FoundationDec 08 12:21
schestowitzdo we TRUST them?Dec 08 12:21
schestowitzLF= monopolies incubationDec 08 12:21
techrights-newsOver 200 Newspapers Quietly Sue Big Tech - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/12/07/2252223 ䷉ #soylentnews ... do not say "Big Tech" ... you're helping #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/Dec 08 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Over 200 Newspapers Quietly Sue Big Tech - SoylentNewsDec 08 12:22
techrights-newsWhat’s the Difference Between #Git Switch and Checkout? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158869 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 12:27
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techrights-news#freesw photo processing with #Darktable • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158870 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source photo processing with Darktable | Tux MachinesDec 08 12:28
techrights-newsBest #Freesw Alternatives to #Apple Final Cut Pro • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158871 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Final Cut Pro | Tux MachinesDec 08 12:28
techrights-newsTender to optimize text layout performance for print and PDF export (#202112-01) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158872 #libreoffice #opendocument #TuxMachinesDec 08 12:29
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #Shadowproof ☞ #Whistleblower #CraigMurray Speaks Out After Being Imprisoned In #Scotland Over Blog Posts https://shadowproof.com/2021/12/07/exclusive-interview-craig-murray-prison-scotland-blog-posts/Dec 08 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shadowproof.com | Whistleblower Craig Murray Speaks Out After Imprisonment For Blog PostsDec 08 12:48
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheNation #patent #patents #monopolies #profit ☞ New Corona Variants = More Deaths https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/new-corona-variants-more-deaths/ more variants = more profits tooDec 08 12:50
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #gulag ☞ #YouTube Processes 4 Million Content ID Claims Per Day, Transparency Report Reveals https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-processes-4-million-content-id-claims-per-day-transparency-report-reveals-211207/Dec 08 13:00
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #GaryBowser Agrees to Pay $10 Million in Piracy Damages to #Nintendo https://torrentfreak.com/gary-bowser-agrees-to-pay-10-million-in-piracy-damages-to-nintendo-211207/Dec 08 13:01
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ First Circuit Affirms School's Punishment of Students for Online #SocialcontrolMedia Posts https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/first-circuit-affirms-schools-punishment-students-online-social-media-postsDec 08 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | First Circuit Affirms School's Punishment of Students for Online Social Media Posts | Electronic Frontier FoundationDec 08 13:02
techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Pay a Hacker, Save a Life https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/pay-hacker-save-life witth #microsoft , #hospitals pay crackers, too (because people are dying) http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/Dec 08 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Pay a Hacker, Save a Life | Electronic Frontier FoundationDec 08 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | TechrightsDec 08 13:04
techrights-news● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #Finance ☞ Richest 1% Took 38% of New Global Wealth Since 1995. The Bottom Half Got Just 2% https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/07/richest-1-took-38-new-global-wealth-1995-bottom-half-got-just-2Dec 08 13:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Richest 1% Took 38% of New Global Wealth Since 1995. The Bottom Half Got Just 2%Dec 08 13:07
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techrights-news#Openhardware smartphone #PinePhone Pro starts to ship • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158873 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open hardware smartphone PinePhone Pro starts to ship | Tux MachinesDec 08 13:33
SomeH4x0riirc this "open hardware" has locked bootloaderDec 08 13:33
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158874 #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 08 13:34
psydroid2locked bootloader?Dec 08 13:34
psydroid2not something like mainline u-boot?Dec 08 13:34
psydroid2https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/UbootDec 08 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.pine64.org | Uboot - PINE64Dec 08 13:35
SomeH4x0rnvm, it was FairphoneDec 08 13:36
SomeH4x0rPinephone is ok thenDec 08 13:37
techrights-news#AlexGraveley , a serial abuser, has been protected by #Microsoft ; what does that say about Microsoft and about #NatFriedman , GitHub’s CEO whom Alex considers his "best friend"? Stay tuned as we have plenty more to show http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/ #github #deletegithubDec 08 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley | TechrightsDec 08 13:37
techrights-newsHaving just uploaded a police report (more here and here), we’re starting to move the ongoing series to the next phase, which will still be — for the most part — weekly installments on Mondays (for months to come) http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/rape-not-a-joke/ #microsoft #github #rapeJokes #deletegithub #predatorsDec 08 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Rape is Not a Joke | TechrightsDec 08 13:38
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux #HEYHIHEYHIHEYHIHEYHIHEYHIHEYHIHEYHIHEYHI ☞ Snapshots from the history of AI, plus AI education resources https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/machine-learning-education-snapshots-history-ai-hello-world-12/Dec 08 13:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Snapshots from the history of AI, plus AI education resources - Raspberry PiDec 08 13:40
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schestowitzFairphone is not about freedomDec 08 13:47
schestowitzit uses another f wordDec 08 13:47
schestowitzand it is mostly about tackling ewasteDec 08 13:47
schestowitzimportant, but not the same causeDec 08 13:47
techrights-newsSolidRun unveils Sitara AM6442 SoM, HummingBoard-T AM64x carrier boards http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158858#comment-32004Dec 08 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compute module and Hummingboard-T SBC showcase safety-conscious TI AM64x | Tux MachinesDec 08 13:54
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psydroid2"We are the Microsoft Borg and we do Security(TM)"Dec 08 14:46
psydroid2https://www.microsoft.com/security/blog/2021/12/07/new-Secured-core-servers-are-now-available-from-the-microsoft-ecosystem-to-help-secure-your-infrastructure/Dec 08 14:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Secured-core servers are now available from the Microsoft ecosystem to help secure your infrastructure - Microsoft Security BlogDec 08 14:46
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Amnesty Scorecard Finds #Twitter Failing to Protect Women From Online Abuse https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/07/amnesty-scorecard-finds-twitter-failing-protect-women-online-abuse #socialcontrolmedia is, in general, toxic crap. Sometimes Twitter SILENCES the VICTIMS.Dec 08 15:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Amnesty Scorecard Finds Twitter Failing to Protect Women From Online AbuseDec 08 15:18
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Verizon Once Again Expands Its Snoopvertising Ambitions https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211206/06064048057/verizon-once-again-expands-snoopvertising-ambitions.shtmlDec 08 15:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Verizon Once Again Expands Its Snoopvertising Ambitions | TechdirtDec 08 15:22
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/2021/12/03/tweets-of-the-week-12-03-21/Dec 08 15:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 25 Tweets Everyone Should've Read This WeekDec 08 15:28
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #SpaceX Engine Production Woes Could Screw Up Musk's #Starlink Broadband Play https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211201/06515248031/space-x-engine-production-woes-could-screw-up-musks-starlink-broadband-play.shtml see what a grifter and #fraud #elonmusk is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkix4UzEbjUDec 08 15:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Space X Engine Production Woes Could Screw Up Musk's Starlink Broadband Play | TechdirtDec 08 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why I Hate Elon Musk - YouTubeDec 08 15:31
techrights-newsStephane Bortzmeyer #of GeminiProtocol fame: "When we say that the Web is too complicated... It has actual consequences, and not only the fact that writing a #Webbrowser is a task now reserved to a small #oligarchy . Here, there are #security consequences in CSS' richness" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007659.htmlDec 08 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Tech] The security consequences of the Web complexityDec 08 15:43
techrights-news#mozilla is #gulag (Google) incubator. #linuxfoundation is GAFAM+IBM+Intel (the Is) incubator. They do there what it more useful for them to do via subsidiaries and front groups. DO NOT BE MISLED. KNOW WHAT THEY TRULY ARE....... and... if you want PROOF, then follow the MONEY. It's simple.Dec 08 15:44
techrights-news#Microsoft #GitHub Exposé — Part X will be released/published Monday. Now things are starting to get hot -- boiling even -- for Microsoft. #techrights #exposeDec 08 15:47
techrights-newsThis week #linuxfoundation is in 'damage control' mode. Curiously enough two unusual puff pieces released a day after http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ and http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/linux-foundation-irs/Dec 08 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | TechrightsDec 08 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No Linux Foundation IRS Disclosures Since 2018 | TechrightsDec 08 15:47
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techrights-newsWe did not write this: " #Techrights deals with a variety of issues that affect our everyday computing. It works by addressing particular subjects that need to be better understood and thus resolved." https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/techrightsDec 08 15:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-muckrack.com | Techrights.org: Contact Information, Journalists, and Overview | Muck RackDec 08 15:49
XRevan86MinceR: Went to look what "acai" means, found out it's "açai", and it's a palm tree and its fruit.Dec 08 15:50
Techrights-secYep.  Saw the message and the post to which it links.Dec 08 15:50
Techrights-secComplexity is bad all around.Dec 08 15:50
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techrights-newsProprietary waste of energy; pass along the heatsink https://linuxhint.com/nvidia-ansel/Dec 08 15:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | What is Nvidia Ansel?Dec 08 15:53
techrights-newsTech 101: just because technology CAN do something does not mean it SHOULD be done. As with many other things in life... #techrights #balance #reasonDec 08 15:54
Techrights-secThe complexity is also used intentionally.Dec 08 15:55
Techrights-secIn most cases it is cultivated and does not happen purely by accident.Dec 08 15:55
schestowitz-TRat some point or at some level, increasing complexity is, in its own right, vendor lockin. IBM and Microsoft master this. Oops, I said master...Dec 08 15:55
Techrights-secyes, systemd has been about using complexity to circumvent the freedom andDec 08 15:58
Techrights-secdecommoditize the OSDec 08 15:58
Techrights-secI'm starting to consider that many other projects are like that, many  Dec 08 15:58
Techrights-secchoose that route on purpose to promote lock-in of sorts.Dec 08 15:58
schestowitzAnother VERY important factor is 1) VERY frequent (and BUGGY) releases; 2) keep the forkers too busy, always with yesterday's bug-infested build 3) users are neglected, collateral damage for vendors' own ambitionsDec 08 15:59
schestowitzEasyOS's barry has a blog and he shows what level of complexity integration for a gnu/linux distro nowadays entails, with Web browsers that can take a day to compile and rarely compile, so it takes days of trial and error. librewolf still has some rough edges.Dec 08 15:59
schestowitz-TRactivelow: of relevance to your workDec 08 16:01
schestowitz-TRyou study this more closely than most/all of usDec 08 16:01
Techrights-secThere was an article a while back, a year or two maybe, about how it is nowDec 08 16:02
Techrights-secmore or less impossible to create a new web browser rendering engine dueDec 08 16:02
Techrights-secto the complexity of the specs combined with their dynamic state as a movingDec 08 16:02
Techrights-sectarget.Dec 08 16:02
schestowitz-TRI rememberDec 08 16:02
schestowitz-TRthere was something else I wanted to say about vendor lockin through complexiity, but I forgot what it was while typing. I think it merits a carefully written essay, if people still appreciate these at all in the age of tl;dr social control mediaDec 08 16:03
techrights-newsFeed society violence as entertainment, then wonder why people get violent? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/anger-foot-gets-more-insane-in-the-latest-update/Dec 08 16:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anger Foot gets more insane in the latest update | GamingOnLinuxDec 08 16:04
Techrights-sec+1, it needs careful consideration to avoid triggering systemd fanbois, Dec 08 16:05
Techrights-secamong other lobbyists for large multinational corporations.Dec 08 16:05
schestowitz-TRthere are many REGULAR systemd apologists in Twitter stalking the hashtag and targeting people who criticise itDec 08 16:05
techrights-news"A classic from #BlendoGames , a short video-game story Thirty Flights of Loving received a 9 year anniversary upgrade and it came along with a fresh #GNU #Linux port from Ethan Lee." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/thirty-flights-of-loving-gets-a-9-year-update-including-new-linux-supportDec 08 16:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thirty Flights of Loving gets a 9 year update including new Linux support | GamingOnLinuxDec 08 16:06
techrights-news"The developer mentioned that if you're interested in future #GNU #Linux play-testing, game development and design related discussion you can join their Discord." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/where-birds-go-to-sleep-is-an-upcoming-narrative-adventure-with-a-striking-painted-styleDec 08 16:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Where Birds Go to Sleep is an upcoming narrative adventure with a striking painted style | GamingOnLinuxDec 08 16:08
Techrights-secThat's the kind of behavior that got it into Debian and Fedora in the first placeDec 08 16:10
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schestowitz-TRlike mono ;-)Dec 08 16:10
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Techrights-secthat one too.  Ad Hominem is rather cost effective and if it fails, the Dec 08 16:16
Techrights-seclarge corporations did it by proxy anyway.  Despite de Icaza working toDec 08 16:16
Techrights-secadvance M$ agenda all day every day for years, there were still denialistsDec 08 16:16
activelowschestowitz-TR: i will remove all modern browsers; only gemini, lynx/links, and netsurf-gtk (if possible) will remainDec 08 16:18
schestowitz-TR+1Dec 08 16:20
schestowitz-TRwe need more people to 'rebel' like thisDec 08 16:21
schestowitz-TRand open up the physical banksDec 08 16:21
schestowitz-TRif you can open football stadiumsDec 08 16:21
schestowitz-TRthen you can open a goddamn bankDec 08 16:21
Techrights-secackDec 08 16:21
activelowthe cross-compilation toolchain and firmware image for arm32 with gcc-4.7.4 is almost finishedDec 08 16:21
activelowcannot confirm yet of the aarch64 SBC i got here will boot with a 32bit arm kernelDec 08 16:22
activelow*ifDec 08 16:22
schestowitz-TRthe quality and relevance of spamnil's video is reaching the verge of the ludicrousDec 08 16:22
schestowitz-TRI worry that writing about it or doing a video will give him more attention than he gets in a normal weekDec 08 16:23
schestowitz-TRI am increasingly suspicious that the LF fluff this week was a direct response to our IRS article, which struck a nerveDec 08 16:24
schestowitz-TRmaybe the IRS started an investigation into their status alreadyDec 08 16:24
activelowand i am hoping for PCC as system compiler won't break anything which cannot be repairedDec 08 16:24
schestowitz-TRso they need to 'justify' themselvesDec 08 16:24
activelowthis woul db extremely cool, if PCC was 5x-10x fasterDec 08 16:24
activelowi was thinking to support RPI3 and RPI4, although i won't use such myselfDec 08 16:25
activelowimagine this, if a 100% source based workflow then, on RPI3 or RPI4 was as powerful and fast as with a modern 8core workstationDec 08 16:25
Techrights-sec$ gcc --version | head -n 1Dec 08 16:26
Techrights-secgcc (Debian 11.2.0-10) 11.2.0Dec 08 16:26
Techrights-secfrom DevuanDec 08 16:26
activelowit's ok, however i reject the vendor lock-in to GNU/FSF/gccDec 08 16:27
activelowi've had enough when g++ hit OOM regularlyDec 08 16:27
activelowif g++ and all c++ dependencies are removed, then a RPI3 with 1GiB of RAM should suffice for a 100% source-based workflowDec 08 16:28
Techrights-secSpeaking of complexity and job security through complexity, I have beenDec 08 16:28
Techrights-sectrying to get some data published under a CC license but the format is Dec 08 16:28
Techrights-secwell documented but so over engineered and convoluted that it has been fasterDec 08 16:28
Techrights-secand easier to reverse engineer it.  I've made no progress with the officialDec 08 16:28
Techrights-secdocumentation in hours.Dec 08 16:28
schestowitz-TRI shall watch LF closely this monthDec 08 16:29
schestowitz-TRspamnil still needs to be watched for me to understand what LF is shillingDec 08 16:29
schestowitz-TRthey commandeer himDec 08 16:29
Techrights-secKeep ignoring him.  Laughing at him will give him clicks if only out of curiosityDec 08 16:30
Techrights-secI have refrained from doing so and admonish others to do the same.  Dec 08 16:30
Techrights-secIt's quite possible.  The IRS hates FOSS oriented charities with a vengance,Dec 08 16:30
Techrights-secaccording to the guy who ran LinuxFest SouthEast.  However, the IRS are M$Dec 08 16:30
Techrights-secboosters, so an investigation could go either way.Dec 08 16:30
Techrights-secAn audit would do them good though.Dec 08 16:30
Techrights-secAs you pointed out there have been no figures posted for three years now.Dec 08 16:30
Techrights-secactivelow: Is PCC still being developed?Dec 08 16:31
activelowTechrights-sec: good question. it's stable with support for C99, and OpenBSD reported success on i386 in 2007.Dec 08 16:32
Techrights-secThat's ok if it is just one person but not more...Dec 08 16:32
Techrights-secmaybe yewtube hits don't count ...  Dec 08 16:32
schestowitz-TRusually I do not even click any actual video, it's merely an 'alta vista' and his RSS feed for his siteDec 08 16:33
activelowi will report my findings, first i need to downgrade from aarch64 to arm32, and gcc-4.7.4; remove all c++ which was missedDec 08 16:33
Techrights-secackDec 08 16:33
techrights-news#Gentoo -Based Calculate Linux 22 Released with PipeWire, Improved System Updates • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158875 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 16:39
techrights-news#Games: Surviving Mars, TFC: The Fertile Crescent, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 22 Released with PipeWire, Improved System Updates | Tux MachinesDec 08 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Surviving Mars, TFC: The Fertile Crescent, and More | Tux MachinesDec 08 16:41
techrights-news" #Perl Club starts to translate Japanese Perl Tutorial to English. Yuki Kimoto is one of the Perl Messengers. #PerlClub decides to write all articles English at first." http://blogs.perl.org/users/yuki_kimoto/2021/12/javascript-supported-web-scraping-using-perl-and-selenium.html #programmingDec 08 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JavaScript Supported Web Scraping using Perl and Selenium | Yuki Kimoto Perl Blog [blogs.perl.org]Dec 08 16:43
techrights-newsRecently, #tuxmachines and #techrights quit syndicating #javascript news and tips unless they're limited to and specific to #gnu #linux ... nothing personal, but #electron junk and so-called 'Web' browsers aren't something we should encourageDec 08 16:45
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesDec 08 16:45
MinceRXRevan86: and with correct spelling, it's pronunciation is entirely unsurprisingDec 08 16:47
XRevan86MinceR: English has a way with spelling.Dec 08 16:52
XRevan86It keeps foreign spelling as-is, but discards diacritics.Dec 08 16:52
XRevan86So if a foreign language uses digraphs (or trigraphs), English will just import them as-is.Dec 08 16:53
XRevan86But if diacritics, then it's just a good-bye.Dec 08 16:53
MinceRi thought i saw diacritics in foreign words in englishDec 08 16:53
MinceRhungarian is officially supposed to discard them from names, luckily not everyone follows the rule, so sometimes names are still recognizableDec 08 16:54
techrights-newsA Call for Sources and Whistleblowers From Microsoft’s #GitHub • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/microsoft-github-whistleblowers/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/microsoft-github-whistleblowers/Dec 08 16:55
XRevan86MinceR: English has two norms: with diacritics in tact (piñata) and without (pinata)Dec 08 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Call for Sources and Whistleblowers From Microsoft’s GitHub | TechrightsDec 08 16:56
MinceR:>Dec 08 16:56
XRevan86Russian always respells. I wonder why Latin-alphabet-based languages almost never respell.Dec 08 16:58
XRevan86Even words from other Cyrillic-based languages are respelled, because otherwise the result would just be wrong.Dec 08 16:59
MinceRthey wouldn't be wrong, you'd just need to know a bit from the language that word is in :>Dec 08 17:00
XRevan86MinceR: Right…Dec 08 17:01
XRevan86MinceR: But then how would I type in letters like ђ, џ ?Dec 08 17:03
MinceR:>Dec 08 17:03
MinceRcopy/paste the whole word :>Dec 08 17:03
kingoffrancesaturn is a letter? :DDec 08 17:05
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techrights-newsBREXIT: "It's so easy to pretend it's all about the CRAZY BRITS" - Irish MEP Clare Daly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPyYuF_CY3o #brexit #eu #uk #ireland #europeDec 08 17:07
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techrights-news"She is a long-standing atheist, though her brother and an uncle are both Catholic priests" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Daly good MEP: http://techrights.org/2021/12/07/clare-daly-on-epo/Dec 08 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Clare Daly (GUE/NGL) Does What Every Public Official in Europe Should Have Done About EPO Shenanigans | TechrightsDec 08 17:10
techrights-news#ZorinOS 16 Celebrates More Than 1 Million Downloads with Lite Edition • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158878 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 17:10
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techrights-news#ZorinOS 16 Lite Edition is Finally Here • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Lite Edition is Finally Here | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:11
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schestowitz-TRmib_2cx4w1: hiDec 08 17:15
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schestowitz-TRhi, DaemonFCDec 08 17:20
schestowitz-TRwelcome back to the trashcanDec 08 17:20
DaemonFChelloDec 08 17:20
DaemonFCI'm losing my voice.Dec 08 17:20
schestowitz-TRtry to stick only to tech todayDec 08 17:20
schestowitz-TRwe're being watched a lotDec 08 17:20
DaemonFCI might just stay out in the car tomorrow.Dec 08 17:21
schestowitz-TRLf, EPO, Github..Dec 08 17:21
schestowitz-TRwe need to be seen as on topic and "professional'Dec 08 17:21
DaemonFCIt's bad enough that people think every little thing is COVID these days.Dec 08 17:21
schestowitz-TRnot to give them excuse to pass overDec 08 17:21
DaemonFCI think it may have actually gotten worse than "WebMD, it's definitely cancer".Dec 08 17:21
schestowitz-TRWeb'MD'Dec 08 17:22
schestowitz-TRif you want infoDec 08 17:22
schestowitz-TRbetter open wikipediaDec 08 17:22
schestowitz-TRand study a bitDec 08 17:22
schestowitz-TRno spying by insurance companuesDec 08 17:22
schestowitz-TRwikipedia is full of shitDec 08 17:22
schestowitz-TRbut it's better than random web searchesDec 08 17:22
DaemonFCYeah, there's a lot of things wrong with Wikipedia. Corporations love it though.Dec 08 17:22
DaemonFCPeople who won't pay for a real encyclopedia get to read vanity articles.Dec 08 17:23
DaemonFCLike the one about Mr. Goolag supporting the guy who gave us Trump.Dec 08 17:23
schestowitz-TR??Dec 08 17:23
schestowitz-TRmjg59 campained AGAINST AssangeDec 08 17:23
schestowitz-TRand trolls him a lotDec 08 17:23
schestowitz-TRyou got it all in reverseDec 08 17:24
schestowitz-TRmany people write wikipedia articles about themselves by proxyDec 08 17:24
schestowitz-TRthey think it'll make them look 'important'Dec 08 17:24
DaemonFCHis vanity article on Wikipedia seems to imply otherwise.Dec 08 17:24
schestowitz-TRFSFE did that tooDec 08 17:24
DaemonFCI'm going to drop by CVS on the way home and take a COVID test to be on the side of caution.Dec 08 17:26
schestowitz-TRI never got testedDec 08 17:26
schestowitz-TRnever had symptomsDec 08 17:26
schestowitz-TRif I get tested, it'll be for antibodiesDec 08 17:26
DaemonFCBut whatever this is, it's incredibly mild so far. Mostly dry cough and losing my voice.Dec 08 17:26
schestowitz-TRbut that's not standard PCR afaikDec 08 17:26
DaemonFCOh, by the time a PCR swab is positive, you've already had it for 4-5 days you know.Dec 08 17:27
DaemonFCUncle Bill never mentions things like this.Dec 08 17:28
schestowitz-TRnor does BillBCDec 08 17:28
DaemonFCIncubation period means you've already been spreading it for at least 1/3rd of the total time you'd have to be quarantined.Dec 08 17:28
schestowitz-TRbut BillBC admittedDec 08 17:28
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/funny-pictures-12-3-21-25.jpgDec 08 17:28
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schestowitz-TRthat two shots keep you just as infectious as noneDec 08 17:28
schestowitz-TRaccording to BillBCDec 08 17:28
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▂▂▅▂▂▂▃▂▅▆▁▁▃▄▂▂▂▃▁▃▁▂▁▄▅▃▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 8.06 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▁█▁█▁█▁▅▆███▁█▁▁█▁▂▁█▁▁▁█▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 198.13▕ swarm size (avg): 254.25  ⟲Dec 08 17:28
schestowitz-TR"go get the thing that leaves you just as contagious..."Dec 08 17:28
MinceR"just as infectious"?Dec 08 17:29
schestowitz-TR"then go WATCH FOOTBALL"Dec 08 17:29
MinceRcitation neededDec 08 17:29
schestowitz-TR"support the Saudi economy" (Newcastle United)Dec 08 17:29
schestowitz-TRMinceR: BillBCDec 08 17:29
DaemonFCBuy an MPEG license, even if you don't have any of those files.Dec 08 17:29
MinceRschestowitz-TR: that is not an article.Dec 08 17:29
schestowitz-TRrianne read it out to me work by word last monthDec 08 17:29
schestowitz-TR*word by wordDec 08 17:29
DaemonFCYou need it. It came with the computer. Oh, you got rid of Windows? Buy another MPEG license. It came with Windows, not the computer!Dec 08 17:29
MinceRstill being infectious is not the same as being equally infectiousDec 08 17:29
schestowitz-TRthey said equallyDec 08 17:30
schestowitz-TR"just as infectious"Dec 08 17:30
MinceRwell, then they're probably wrongDec 08 17:30
schestowitz-TRfor people who got 2 shots this past summerDec 08 17:30
schestowitz-TRof course they did NOT say this to discourage adoptionDec 08 17:30
schestowitz-TRbut to then sell a third oneDec 08 17:30
schestowitz-TRat the end of the articleDec 08 17:30
schestowitz-TRamong other thingsDec 08 17:30
MinceRlolDec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TRlike pushing the same for little kidsDec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TRI'm VERY pro-vaccinesDec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TRbut I started looking at this thing cynicallyDec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TRMAGATRON and allDec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TR*MEGATRONDec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TRnot MAGADec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TRno xe/xiDec 08 17:31
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schestowitz-TRit's like they market and brand it nowDec 08 17:31
schestowitz-TRfor fearDec 08 17:31
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schestowitz-TRwith scarier pictures/illustrationsDec 08 17:32
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schestowitz-TRnext variant will be pictured holding  two rifles and suicide vestDec 08 17:32
MinceRbut will it have a logo, a website and merchandise?Dec 08 17:32
schestowitz-TRhahaha!Dec 08 17:32
schestowitz-TR"got the jab, got the tshit"\Dec 08 17:33
SomeH4x0ryes, I doubt there are good intentionsDec 08 17:33
schestowitzMinceR: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/20-years-red-hat-product-security-rise-branded-exploitsDec 08 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 20 years of Red Hat Product Security: The rise of branded exploits (Part 2)Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzfrom yesterdayDec 08 17:34
schestowitzIBM Hat:Dec 08 17:34
schestowitz"Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzIn part 1 of this story we traced the history of Red Hat Product Security from its inception in 2001 through to its shift into the Customer Experience and Engagement (CEE) team in 2013.Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzBut that was just the beginning…security was always important, of course, but it was about to become front-page news.Dec 08 17:34
schestowitz"Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzI've been saying this for a decade ;-)Dec 08 17:34
schestowitz"Dec 08 17:34
schestowitz2014 saw the rise of "branded" vulnerabilities —security issues that were given memorable names and logos, and that were accompanied by big splashy announcements.Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzThe purpose of this was reportedly to increase public awareness of these issues, with the hope that increased attention would result in faster fixes.Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzOf course, increased awareness also led to increased media coverage, which, in turn, led to more public awareness. While these branded security issues were serious, the widespread attention tended to result in somewhat overblown panic and drama.Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzThere were two major branded vulnerabilities that came to light in 2014, Heartbleed and Shellshock.Dec 08 17:34
schestowitz"Dec 08 17:34
schestowitzexactly!!Dec 08 17:35
schestowitzand who promoted these?Dec 08 17:35
schestowitzMicrosoft hacksDec 08 17:35
schestowitzinc. 'former' staffDec 08 17:35
schestowitzwe even showed the connectionsDec 08 17:35
schestowitzfunny how Windows bugs almost never have logos and sites and brandDec 08 17:35
techrights-news#ProprietarySoftware and #Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:37
DaemonFCcytoMAGAlovirusDec 08 17:37
techrights-news#Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:38
schestowitz-TRthe next variant will be a Cyclope multi-headed hydraDec 08 17:38
schestowitz-TRdonning a cell-killing minigunDec 08 17:38
schestowitz-TRnot that fluffy hairy thing they floated in 2019Dec 08 17:39
schestowitz-TRlooking like a pompon Dec 08 17:39
schestowitz-TRthat was a "marketing" failureDec 08 17:39
immibiscongressional panel just confirmed they can't allow bitcoin to replace the US dollar as global reserve currencyDec 08 17:40
schestowitz-TRobviouslyDec 08 17:40
schestowitz-TRhow many in that panel take corporate bribes in BTC?Dec 08 17:40
schestowitz-TR^_^Dec 08 17:40
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, 1 in 5 articles on WGN is about the MAGA virus.Dec 08 17:40
DaemonFCMany of those are "Omicron" MAGA virus.Dec 08 17:40
schestowitz-TRgoodDec 08 17:40
schestowitz-TRmore sponsorship moneyDec 08 17:40
schestowitz-TRit's a hot sellerDec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TRwhat else sells now?Dec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TRdiscounted food on cyber monday?Dec 08 17:41
MinceR08 183302 < schestowitz-TR> "got the jab, got the tshit"\Dec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TRalso the profit marginsDec 08 17:41
MinceRnot for the "jab", for the pathogen itselfDec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TR50 cents to makeDec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TR$25 dollars a doseDec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TR"niceeeee..."Dec 08 17:41
MinceR"got infected, got the t-shirt"Dec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TRMinceR: "my white cells are strong!"Dec 08 17:41
schestowitz-TR"my allowcells"Dec 08 17:42
MinceR:)Dec 08 17:42
DaemonFCNo, no, you're not thinking bigly enough Roy. It's the Finest vaccine in the History of the world.Dec 08 17:42
DaemonFC50 cents going for $25 would never give the stock market a raging hard-on.Dec 08 17:43
DaemonFCOh I'm sorry, make investors become tumescent with anticipation.Dec 08 17:43
DaemonFCMake it $100. The government is paying. They never see the bill directly.Dec 08 17:43
schestowitz-TRthat's patentsDec 08 17:43
schestowitz-TRtyhe media rarely mentions the patentsDec 08 17:43
schestowitz-TRand who funded the R&DDec 08 17:43
schestowitz-TR(taxpayers mostly)Dec 08 17:43
schestowitz-TR[17:43] <DaemonFC> Make it $100. The government is paying. They never see the bill directly.Dec 08 17:44
schestowitz-TRPRe-paidDec 08 17:44
schestowitz-TRwho pays the billDec 08 17:44
schestowitz-TR?Dec 08 17:44
schestowitz-TRnot 'the bill'Dec 08 17:44
schestowitz-TRbut youDec 08 17:44
schestowitzhttps://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debtDec 08 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 2021 Data | 2022 Forecast | 1942-2020 HistoricalDec 08 17:44
schestowitz"Government Debt in the United States increased to 28908765 USD Million in October from 28428919 USD Million in September of 2021."Dec 08 17:44
schestowitz"pump up tje volume!!"Dec 08 17:44
schestowitz"raise da roooof"Dec 08 17:44
schestowitzdebt ceilingDec 08 17:44
schestowitzbreak dat f'ing ceilingDec 08 17:45
schestowitzuntil rapture comesDec 08 17:45
schestowitzBTW, US provoking CHina nowDec 08 17:45
schestowitzwith the Olympic Games as a spielDec 08 17:45
schestowitzweaponising IOC mpoliticallyDec 08 17:45
schestowitzneed SOMEONE tom blameDec 08 17:45
schestowitznot the "Economy"Dec 08 17:45
schestowitzWall Street GOODDec 08 17:45
schestowitzChina BSDDec 08 17:45
schestowitzBADDec 08 17:45
schestowitzeconomy GREAT!Dec 08 17:45
schestowitzNever been betterDec 08 17:46
XRevan86https://lbry.tv/@ElectroBOOM:9/how-wrong-is-veritasium-a-lamp-and-power:bDec 08 17:46
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schestowitz"LOOK, WALL STREET!'Dec 08 17:46
schestowitzDon't look for people living in cars and tent cities"Dec 08 17:46
schestowitz"we don't count them"Dec 08 17:46
schestowitz"they're BUMS"Dec 08 17:46
MinceRyeah, don't acknowledge taiwan, because then you'd be provoking red china :>Dec 08 17:47
techrights-newsSince #biden (ism) 'rose to power' earlier this year US #debt continues to soar... by over a TRILLION dollars. In LESS THAN A YEAR. #corporatemedia says economy "NEVER BEEN BETTER" (citing the index of the plunderers, Wall Street) https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debtDec 08 17:48
MinceRavoiding saying things a bunch of old stalinists don't like is of utmost importance.Dec 08 17:48
schestowitz-TRMinceR: twaiwan is a schtickDec 08 17:48
schestowitz-TRsame for hkDec 08 17:48
MinceRand red china isn't?Dec 08 17:49
schestowitz-TRbut they do deserve theior autonomyDec 08 17:49
schestowitz-TRso does diego garciaDec 08 17:49
schestowitz-TRChina claims US hypocrisyDec 08 17:49
schestowitz-TRand sadly they do have substance in that claimDec 08 17:49
schestowitz-TRthey're both potzesDec 08 17:49
schestowitz-TRand the US ignores international courtsDec 08 17:50
schestowitz-TRas does China (and Russia)Dec 08 17:50
schestowitz-TRThey're "too big to obey"Dec 08 17:50
schestowitz-TRI think only China is self-sufficientDec 08 17:50
schestowitz-TRmaybe Russia alsoDec 08 17:50
schestowitz-TRUS became too dependent on imports, except for foods and militaryDec 08 17:50
MinceRwe'll find out, i guessDec 08 17:51
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schestowitz-TRso US on its own is just a bunch of gun fanatics eating corn and flying missiles, lobbing nukes at countriesDec 08 17:51
schestowitz-TRchina can make everything on its ownDec 08 17:51
schestowitz-TReven planesDec 08 17:51
schestowitz-TRUS planes assemble parts made overseasDec 08 17:51
MinceRthey can't design stuff right, thoughDec 08 17:51
schestowitz-TRgive them timeDec 08 17:51
schestowitz-TRthey always catch upDec 08 17:52
schestowitz-TRas Japan didDec 08 17:52
MinceRand with xi at the wheel, they never willDec 08 17:52
MinceRjapan has a very different mentalityDec 08 17:52
schestowitz-TRwhen it copied cameras and such from EuropeDec 08 17:52
schestowitz-TRthen carsDec 08 17:52
schestowitz-TRJapan is slave of the USDec 08 17:52
schestowitz-TRsince ww2 Dec 08 17:52
schestowitz-TRlots of us military bases with nukesDec 08 17:52
MinceRthe japanese were willing to improve themselves and work had to prove they can be better than their foreigner competitorsDec 08 17:52
schestowitz-TRnot japan's ownDec 08 17:52
MinceRred china believes in totalitarian oppression and micromanagementDec 08 17:53
MinceRand relying totally on selling the products of slave laborDec 08 17:53
schestowitz-TRyesDec 08 17:53
MinceRthat's not how you develop technological know-howDec 08 17:53
schestowitz-TRand US exploits that sweatshop mentalityDec 08 17:53
MinceRxi jinping already hinted he's about to double down on micromanagementDec 08 17:53
schestowitz-TRas do we (uk/europe)Dec 08 17:53
schestowitz-TRwhen did you last buy locally-produced xmas decos?Dec 08 17:53
MinceRwhich will doom their economy even if the real estate bubble doesn'tDec 08 17:53
MinceRi haven't bought xmas decos in agesDec 08 17:54
schestowitz-TRneither have weDec 08 17:54
schestowitz-TRbuy onceDec 08 17:54
schestowitz-TRit should last decadesDec 08 17:54
MinceRwe haven't even bought a tree in yearsDec 08 17:54
schestowitz-TRour xmas trees, the cheap ones, barely have lights workingDec 08 17:54
schestowitz-TRhalf are dead alreadyDec 08 17:54
schestowitz-TRMinceR: plastic 'tree'Dec 08 17:54
schestowitz-TRoil residue 'tree'Dec 08 17:54
MinceRwe never had plastic "trees"Dec 08 17:55
MinceRor even electric lights for the treeDec 08 17:55
schestowitz-TRso how can you flaunt your pious self to thy neighbour?Dec 08 17:55
MinceRi can'tDec 08 17:55
techrights-newsLinks 8/12/2021: #ZorinOS 16 Milestone and Calculate Linux 22 Released; Kubernetes 1.23 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/zorin-os-16-milestone/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/zorin-os-16-milestone/Dec 08 17:55
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MinceRi don't care about my neighborsDec 08 17:55
schestowitz-TRit is mutualDec 08 17:56
MinceRi knowDec 08 17:56
techrights-news#LoRa expansion boards work with Raspberry Pi SBC and Raspberry Pi Pico board (Crowdfunding) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LoRa expansion boards work with Raspberry Pi SBC and Raspberry Pi Pico board (Crowdfunding) | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:56
MinceRthe barbarian that drills holes all day makes it clearlyDec 08 17:56
MinceRso does the barbarian that abandoned their tiny dog which barks all dayDec 08 17:56
MinceRs/rly/r/Dec 08 17:56
schestowitz-TRsome drills are long enough to come through to the other sideDec 08 17:56
schestowitz-TRlike the ones openreach broughtDec 08 17:56
schestowitz-TRto insert the fibreoptic cableDec 08 17:57
schestowitz-TRwe have a router for it all set upDec 08 17:57
schestowitz-TRit's not activated yetDec 08 17:57
schestowitz-TRmaybe in 1-2 yearsDec 08 17:57
schestowitz-TRdrill about half a meter longDec 08 17:57
techrights-news#Krita 4 splash screen • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158883 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4 splash screen | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:58
DaemonFCYeah, fuck China.Dec 08 17:59
DaemonFCThe West turned them into a threat by funding all of this.Dec 08 17:59
DaemonFCNow they're all horrified about this disaster, which took all of about 20 years.Dec 08 17:59
DaemonFCChina made a peaceful solution impossible with what they did to Hong Kong.Dec 08 18:00
schestowitz-TRiirc, that started with nixonDec 08 18:01
schestowitz-TRi.e. GOPDec 08 18:01
schestowitz-TRbefore it went  'fullKKK'Dec 08 18:01
DaemonFCClinton normalized trade relations with them on the way out the door.Dec 08 18:01
schestowitz-TRit predated ClintonDec 08 18:01
schestowitz-TRby a lotDec 08 18:01
DaemonFCSome of it did.Dec 08 18:01
schestowitz-TRselective history and timelinesDec 08 18:01
DaemonFCThe framework for it did.Dec 08 18:01
schestowitz-TRyour dad had a good job back thenDec 08 18:01
schestowitz-TRmanufacturing and designingDec 08 18:02
DaemonFCSo did I for a while.Dec 08 18:02
schestowitz-TRnow it's warehouse workDec 08 18:02
schestowitz-TRamazonDec 08 18:02
DaemonFCWe lost some of that to Canada too.Dec 08 18:02
DaemonFCI asked Stride Rite why they were going to pack up and leave.Dec 08 18:02
DaemonFCThey said the healthcare plan was too expensive and they could just use NAFTA to go offload their costs onto Canadian taxpayers.Dec 08 18:02
schestowitz-TR[15:12] <techrights-news> ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ 'I'm Asking You To Help': Amazon Employee Describes 'Sheer Brutality' of Work to Senators https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/07/im-asking-you-help-amazon-employee-describes-sheer-brutality-work-senatorsDec 08 18:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'I'm Asking You To Help': Amazon Employee Describes 'Sheer Brutality' of Work to SenatorsDec 08 18:03
schestowitz-TRwe had amazon leaks beforeDec 08 18:03
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AmazonDec 08 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amazon - TechrightsDec 08 18:03
schestowitz"what do you do for a living?"Dec 08 18:03
schestowitz"I stock shelves"Dec 08 18:03
schestowitz"I unpack containers"Dec 08 18:04
DaemonFCSo these companies take advantage of Canada to use them for currency arbitrage and "free" healthcare that someone else pays for to get their salaries down.Dec 08 18:04
schestowitz"I answer the phone"Dec 08 18:04
schestowitz"service" 'economy'Dec 08 18:04
DaemonFC"What do you do?" Dec 08 18:04
MinceR(cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/9KwGBSN.mp4Dec 08 18:04
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techrights-news#LibreOffice Base Guide 7.2 has been released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158884 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Base Guide 7.2 has been released | Tux MachinesDec 08 18:04
DaemonFCDoctor: "Oh I charge $1,000 to tell a person with bacterial pneumonia it's probably viral and come back and pay me again if they're alive in a week."Dec 08 18:04
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kikzjTfos0s&feature=youtu.be&t=28Dec 08 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-On Bullsh*t Jobs | David Graeber | RSA Replay - YouTubeDec 08 18:05
DaemonFC"I can't imagine why people just wait until they're so sick the ER has to admit them."Dec 08 18:05
DaemonFCHolding out in case it gets better and they can avoid some useless expensive doctor visit.Dec 08 18:05
DaemonFCIt has a logic to it, inside of this corrupt and insane system.Dec 08 18:05
DaemonFCschestowitz, Mom was talking about all the silver they were taking to deal with this respiratory crap they have going on in their house.Dec 08 18:06
DaemonFCShe says that others she knows are hospitalized and on oxygen.Dec 08 18:06
DaemonFCThey told one of them that if he needs more than 6 liters, they have to transport him to another city.Dec 08 18:07
DaemonFCBut it's not COVID!Dec 08 18:07
DaemonFCNobody who gets it tests positive for COVID, and now it's going through her church too.Dec 08 18:07
DaemonFCSo we definitely have something else going on here that's worse than COVID, and the "noise" only talks about MAGAvirus.Dec 08 18:07
*activelow remembersDec 08 18:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, My packages arrived.Dec 08 18:08
DaemonFCNow I don't have to worry about that getting stolen if it takes a while to get a COVID test.Dec 08 18:08
activelowoften it is blood circulation issues involved, thrombosis, when oxygenation isn't the first and only adviseable treatmentDec 08 18:08
techrights-news6 Ways #elementaryOS Is Perfect for Digital Minimalists • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Ways elementary OS Is Perfect for Digital Minimalists | Tux MachinesDec 08 18:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm drinking hot green tea with honey.Dec 08 18:09
DaemonFCMandy can't get enough of it.Dec 08 18:09
DaemonFCBut it helps with the throat and I can at least speak a little again if I don't overdo it.Dec 08 18:09
DaemonFCI sound like the fucking Wishmaster.Dec 08 18:09
schestowitz-TRlolDec 08 18:09
DaemonFC"I see a wrongfully accused man who would like to make his attorney pay for the suffering that he has caused!"Dec 08 18:10
schestowitz-TRexcept you cannot fulfill anythingDec 08 18:10
DaemonFC"I believe you said that you wanted to see him go fuck himself....mmmmm....wish granted."Dec 08 18:10
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Dec 08 18:10
DaemonFCWell, at least there's an upside to having a cold.Dec 08 18:11
DaemonFCI can amuse myself all day with this.Dec 08 18:11
techrights-news"I have ended up being rather overwhelmed at work toward the end of the year and my personal projects, including Gemini, have taken a backseat. Just wanted to provide some reassurance that I haven't disappeared into the aether again and I still hope to make some more spec updates before the end of the year." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007660.htmlDec 08 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Still alive...Dec 08 18:11
techrights-newsZorin OS 16 Lite is a Classy Distro for Low-End PCs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158878#comment-32005Dec 08 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Celebrates More Than 1 Million Downloads with Lite Edition | Tux MachinesDec 08 18:12
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: it's COLD-19Dec 08 18:12
MinceRfishmonster!Dec 08 18:13
schestowitz-TRCOVID On Lower DensityDec 08 18:13
schestowitz-TRMy thermometer tested me positive for coldDec 08 18:13
schestowitz-TRbecause the reading was HIGH1Dec 08 18:14
schestowitz-TRMedicsDec 08 18:14
*activelow drinks another glas of water with some vitamin-CDec 08 18:14
schestowitz-TRthey say you have a coldDec 08 18:14
schestowitz-TRwhen your body is too hotDec 08 18:14
schestowitz-TRmaybe when I freeze to death here, no heating on.. the death cert will say, "died from heat"Dec 08 18:15
DaemonFCWell, I'm sure it got the name because it gives you the chills.Dec 08 18:15
schestowitz-TRcold sweatDec 08 18:16
schestowitz-TRhumans have not evolved enoughDec 08 18:16
schestowitz-TRbody overheats in the coldDec 08 18:16
schestowitz-TRbody sweatsDec 08 18:16
schestowitz-TRthen flushesDec 08 18:16
schestowitz-TR"intelligent design"Dec 08 18:17
MinceRi thought it got the name because people are more likely to get it when it's coldDec 08 18:17
schestowitz-TRMinceR: you can get a heat stroke when it's hotDec 08 18:17
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I saw a graph that says as of October, people vaccinated with the Pfizer shot were 12 times less likely to die of COVID. Well, I mean, if that's even true, there's hardly a risk of death to people under 45.Dec 08 18:20
activelowwith or without vaccinationDec 08 18:20
DaemonFCThat much hasn't changed. It's like, you know, 1 in 1000 really, and that was a statistic from before they knew how to treat it.Dec 08 18:20
DaemonFCSo even that's out of date.Dec 08 18:21
activelowtoday it was reported those who weren't "boostered" are accounted for as "unvaccinated" too, even when they got the fister miracle tincture injectedDec 08 18:21
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DaemonFCI knew the effort to contain it was a sham last year, early last year, like April.Dec 08 18:22
activelowcontain what? the propaganda fake news?Dec 08 18:22
DaemonFCI called the Health Department in Lake County, IL, and gave them the name of a woman who tested positive and then kept coming back into Walmart to buy like 2 things and spend several hours in the store talking to people without her mask on.Dec 08 18:22
techrights-newsLinux Mint 20.3 beta being tested, is its release imminent? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158530#comment-32006Dec 08 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.3 Arriving Soon with a Surprise New App | Tux MachinesDec 08 18:23
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DaemonFCThen the person I spoke to said they weren't going to do anything about it because "She may not have anyone else to buy her groceries.".Dec 08 18:23
DaemonFCThey don't take it seriously and never have.Dec 08 18:23
DaemonFCBut when some restaurants opened back up, they went out there and wrote "nuisance" tickets.Dec 08 18:23
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158886 # #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 08 18:23
DaemonFCIt's a giant power grab, and they get to fine small business owners, and drive them under, as a form of harassment for having signs out last election for the Republican Party.Dec 08 18:24
DaemonFCIt's a never ending power grab by the left.Dec 08 18:26
DaemonFCNow that they see they can scare the hell out of the people who vote for them and use them as muscle to help them commit atrocities, selectively, against everyone else.Dec 08 18:26
DaemonFCThe emergency never ends.Dec 08 18:27
schestowitz-TRgerman stadiums are empty againDec 08 18:27
schestowitz-TRno spectatorsDec 08 18:27
schestowitz-TRso 2+ years later we're still not solving the problem :/Dec 08 18:27
DaemonFCI'll probably vote Republican for the governor next year.Dec 08 18:27
schestowitz-TRwell, I could stay home longer I guess, I work from homeDec 08 18:27
DaemonFCHe won't be powerful enough to do much of anything, but he can cancel the fake emergency that is completely unconstitutional that the statute does not even allow for.Dec 08 18:28
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DaemonFCThe Illinois Constitution guarantees the rule of law, and the Illinois Emergency Management Act, which claims the governor can respond to emergencies by suspending laws (unconstitutional) even says he can only do it for 30 days without the legislature stepping in.Dec 08 18:29
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DaemonFCIt's not real. They made it up. There is no underpinning for this because either it's unconstitutional to suspend laws, or the emergency has been going on for over a year and a half over the same reason he gave initially, which allows for 30 days.Dec 08 18:30
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DaemonFCIf we had any real judges in this state, they'd have overturned it already, so the state is operating without a constitution, and anything the legislature does is in an "advisory role".Dec 08 18:31
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DaemonFCThey can pass anything they want, and due to "emergency", the governor can suspend it indefinitely so that it never takes effect.Dec 08 18:31
DaemonFCAll over a cold.Dec 08 18:31
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schestowitz-TR[14:07] [Notice] -altlink_9ac to #boycottnovell-social- 📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/07/trump-appointed-judge-suspends-bidens-vaccine-mandate-federal-contractorsDec 08 18:32
DaemonFCAbortions have been deemed "essential healthcare". Dentistry is "not important".Dec 08 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Trump-Appointed Judge Suspends Biden's Vaccine Mandate for Federal ContractorsDec 08 18:32
DaemonFCFrom the party that brought you infanticide comes here, have your teeth rot out!Dec 08 18:32
schestowitz-TRit's not "a cold\Dec 08 18:32
schestowitz-TRit's far worseDec 08 18:32
schestowitz-TRbut you could argue the response was ill-advisedDec 08 18:32
DaemonFCThis is just absolutely hysterical on the part of the left.Dec 08 18:33
DaemonFCNo state has passed a total abortion ban.Dec 08 18:33
DaemonFCNot even close.Dec 08 18:33
DaemonFCThey just want to be able to do it all the way up to 9 months without getting in any trouble for it because they're sick.Dec 08 18:34
DaemonFCIf you gave them another inch, they'd toss their baby into a furnace as well.Dec 08 18:34
schestowitz-TRrianne reads billbc nowDec 08 18:34
schestowitz-TRshe saysDec 08 18:34
schestowitz-TR"more masks, more home working"Dec 08 18:35
schestowitz-TRwhich I likeDec 08 18:35
DaemonFCIf the Supreme Court wanted Roe to be settled law, they wouldn't have built it up on nonsense that doesn't exist in our constitution.Dec 08 18:35
schestowitz-TRmore job opportunitiesfor geeks in their home officeDec 08 18:35
schestowitz-TRfewer maskless covidiots out thereDec 08 18:35
schestowitz-TRalso, the lockdowns have been most effective at reducing cases and deathsDec 08 18:35
kingoffranceDaemonFC, DaemonFC DaemonFC its all about who's definition "rule of law" https://www.un.org/ruleoflaw/what-is-the-rule-of-law/   long ago it meant maxims "spirit of law" roughly.Dec 08 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.un.org | What is the Rule of Law - United Nations and the Rule of LawDec 08 18:35
schestowitz-TRto just a handful of deaths per dayDec 08 18:36
kingoffrancethats at least 3 right thereDec 08 18:36
schestowitz-TRsummer 2020Dec 08 18:36
schestowitz-TRwith 2021 summer of 'freedom day' TEN TIMES more deathsDec 08 18:36
DaemonFCChicago alone aborts over 10,000 babies per year now that the state pays for most of them.Dec 08 18:36
DaemonFCIf you add in the rest of the state, that's more people than die of COVID.Dec 08 18:36
DaemonFCThe Democrats have no plan to give poor black people in the city "prosperity". Just more abortions. I saw that, you know, I mean, if they wanted to help they could help by cutting the budget.Dec 08 18:37
techrights-newsStable Kernels: 5.15.7, 5.10.84, 5.4.164, 4.19.220, 4.14.257, 4.9.292, and 4.4.294 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158887 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.15.7, 5.10.84, 5.4.164, 4.19.220, 4.14.257, 4.9.292, and 4.4.294 | Tux MachinesDec 08 18:37
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MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/0nvf8mrb7bd61.pngDec 08 18:38
-altlink_4a9/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/0nvf8mrb7bd61.pngDec 08 18:38
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DaemonFCChicago budgets a lot of money to take their homes and give them to rich white liberals instead, and put in a Whole Foods.Dec 08 18:38
DaemonFCMr. Goolag would even move in and see nothing wrong about that, probably.Dec 08 18:38
DaemonFCIf you took that money and put it into a jobs program, or property tax relief for people who can't afford the normal rate, they could stay there and live better.Dec 08 18:39
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Was it you that said the goal is to just drive the crime and poverty somewhere the Goolag clones wouldn't need to look at it was the goal?Dec 08 18:40
DaemonFCI've lived exactly in that area. Not for long, but long enough to see that 99% of the people there were decent. But there's this horrible scourge that the police and courts have given up on doing anything about.Dec 08 18:41
DaemonFCSo they're often the victim because, you know, the attitude of the entitled left is such that, Microsoft was literally about to roll out a Maps program with Avoid Ghetto.Dec 08 18:42
DaemonFCThey still have the patent, btw.Dec 08 18:42
DaemonFChttps://www.syracuse.com/news/2012/01/microsoft_avoid_ghetto_app_windows_phone.htmlDec 08 18:42
-altlink_4a9/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: syracuse.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.syracuse.com/news/2012/01/microsoft_avoid_ghetto_app_windows_phone.htmlDec 08 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft 'avoid ghetto' app for smartphones' GPS navigation stirs controversy - syracuse.comDec 08 18:42
SomeH4x0rI don't think abortions are counted as deathsDec 08 18:43
DaemonFCAll of 9 years ago....ignore that. They're woke now.Dec 08 18:43
DaemonFC"If they choose to include rape stats in their route recommendations, they may be arming ladies with some extra information."Dec 08 18:44
SomeH4x0ras they don't consider fetus to be a proper humanDec 08 18:45
DaemonFCI wonder if that would have any effect or if the rapists would just get on the L and go somewhere else in the city instead.Dec 08 18:45
DaemonFCI was talking to John at one point.Dec 08 18:47
DaemonFCI said "All of the crime happens near the red line stops up here.".Dec 08 18:47
DaemonFCHe said, "Yeah, it picks up all the criminals on the south side and it brings them up here to us.".Dec 08 18:47
DaemonFCSo we had crazy people stabbing senior citizens with screwdrivers and setting themselves on fire with gasoline on the train.Dec 08 18:48
DaemonFCIt was a pretty messed up place _before_ Mayor Beetlejuice.Dec 08 18:48
techrights-newsSame 'Linux' Foundation which shills #WSL for #microsoft ... https://www.linux.com/featured/linux-as-a-screensaver-for-windows-the-gift-of-open-source-games-and-sboms-for-the-holidays/Dec 08 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux as a Screensaver for Windows: The Gift of Open Source Games and SBOMs for the Holidays - Linux.comDec 08 18:49
techrights-news#EasyOS : Why ISO was retired https://bkhome.org/news/202112/why-iso-was-retired.html #gnu #linuxDec 08 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Why ISO was retiredDec 08 18:52
SomeH4x0rISO as in what?Dec 08 18:52
SomeH4x0roh, I seeDec 08 18:53
DaemonFCThe ISO is nearly irrelevant at this point.Dec 08 18:53
DaemonFCThere was once a point in time where they were an actual standards body with lack of anything better.Dec 08 18:54
techrights-newsProgress of #Pegasus investigations around the world ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/progress_of_pegasus_investigations/ ䷉ #internetfreedom #internetDec 08 18:54
-altlink_4a9/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/progress_of_pegasus_investigations/Dec 08 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Progress of Pegasus investigations around the worldDec 08 18:54
SomeH4x0r> optical drives are rapidly receeding into history | are they?Dec 08 18:54
DaemonFCYes.Dec 08 18:55
DaemonFCMost laptops don't have one anymore.Dec 08 18:55
SomeH4x0rmanufacturers faultDec 08 18:55
DaemonFCWhich is fine. External USB ones aren't a huge deal if they break because you can throw it out without having a broken drive inside the laptop, and they cost $30-40.Dec 08 18:55
SomeH4x0rUSB ports can break as well. Including by means like USB killer.Dec 08 18:56
schestowitzhttps://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-announces-tools-to-measure-browser-performance-on-android-and-linux/Dec 08 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Microsoft announces tools to measure browser performance on Android and Linux - NeowinDec 08 18:57
schestowitz??Dec 08 18:57
psydroid2total controlDec 08 18:58
SomeH4x0rI don't like to "adapt" to "progress". It is just an annoyance.Dec 08 19:01
techrights-newsGodot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.1 RC 2 ⚓ https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-1-rc-2 ䷉ #godotengine #games #gnu #linuxDec 08 19:01
-altlink_4a9/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: godotengine.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-1-rc-2Dec 08 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.1 RC 2Dec 08 19:01
MinceRif(browser == "Edge") score *= 2;Dec 08 19:02
SomeH4x0rI only blame ones who build computers for the absence of CD drivesDec 08 19:02
MinceRi have a USB DVD writer :>Dec 08 19:02
schestowitzMinceR: I have a USB writertDec 08 19:03
schestowitzRW evenDec 08 19:03
schestowitzlimitlessDec 08 19:03
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schestowitzsome pmp's have a usb witer tyooDec 08 19:04
SomeH4x0rThis decade-old laptop is enough. No real reason to buy anything else.Dec 08 19:04
schestowitze.g. to delete songs ;-)Dec 08 19:04
schestowitzSomeH4x0r: donchu support de economyyy?Dec 08 19:05
MinceRdonchu know who i am?!Dec 08 19:05
schestowitzsanta is ready to make you ANOTHER laptoDec 08 19:06
schestowitzdon't be "spoilsport"Dec 08 19:06
SomeH4x0rgot some new computer at later point (which I rarely use), because school started enforcing incompatible stuff after a lockdownDec 08 19:06
schestowitzgo out and cosumeDec 08 19:06
schestowitzenjoy the "shopping experience"Dec 08 19:06
schestowitzwith aura and ambiance and stuffDec 08 19:06
MinceRsanta casts Polymorph Any Objects, and you are now a laptopDec 08 19:06
MinceRs/cts/ct/Dec 08 19:06
psydroid2I have a pile of DVD drives I took out of my systemsDec 08 19:08
DaemonFC<MinceR> donchu know who i am?!Dec 08 19:09
DaemonFC"I'm the guy who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons!"Dec 08 19:09
DaemonFC*cough cough cough*Dec 08 19:09
MinceRlolDec 08 19:09
techrights-news#ZorinOS 16 Lite Gives Old PCs a Beautiful, Classy Makeover https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Cl5qXPY9OLk #gnu #linuxDec 08 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zorin OS 16 Lite Gives Old PCs a Beautiful, Classy Makeover [Review] - InvidiousDec 08 19:09
DaemonFCI'm now feeling sapped of energy even though I just woke up a couple of hours ago.Dec 08 19:10
DaemonFCThis isn't going in the right direction.Dec 08 19:10
psydroid2Microsoft should write "billions" of applications for Windows and stop trying to port their crapware to other operating systemsDec 08 19:12
DaemonFCMost of those applications for Windows are crap.Dec 08 19:12
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: or buy a million game studiosDec 08 19:12
DaemonFCIf Wine just targets the few important ones, that's fine.Dec 08 19:12
psydroid2They could write more of them and leave us aloneDec 08 19:13
techrights-news"Only that, at the time, there were a lot of automation tasks and there was this new shiny programming language, Perl…" https://raku-advent.blog/2021/12/08/day-8-practice-on-advent-of-code/ #perl #rakulang #programmingDec 08 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raku-advent.blog | Day 8 – Practice… on Advent of Code – Raku Advent CalendarDec 08 19:13
psydroid2schestowitz-TR, that too, especially now that PC gaming is in declineDec 08 19:13
DaemonFCThere's at least several new Windows APIs every couple of weeks added to Wine, so on the whole, things start working more and more as a natural consequence of that.Dec 08 19:13
DaemonFCYou add some to get something working, turns out it helps other stuff run too.Dec 08 19:13
DaemonFCIt's not like Windows is some sort of ascendant operating system that's undergoing rapid development.Dec 08 19:14
DaemonFCAlmost all of the APIs that are going to exist are there already, and Microsoft is continuing to neglect it terribly with Windows "11".Dec 08 19:14
psydroid2Wine is already a better Windows than Windows itself, because it gets out of the way and just runs the applications you need and not hundreds of unnecessary services (or slaves)Dec 08 19:15
techrights-newsAccess Now to Telegram: protect the rights of 500 million people - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/telegram-protect-the-rights-of-500-million-people/ ䷉ #accessnow should know #telegram is #ProprietarySoftware and considered unsafe. Recommend better things...?Dec 08 19:15
-altlink_4a9/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: accessnow.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/telegram-protect-the-rights-of-500-million-people/Dec 08 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Access Now to Telegram: protect the rights of 500 million people - Access NowDec 08 19:15
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: Microsoft should but MSFTDec 08 19:15
schestowitz-TRfor $5,000 billionDec 08 19:15
schestowitz-TRto increase its market capDec 08 19:15
schestowitz-TRand pose to investorsDec 08 19:15
schestowitz-TR*buyDec 08 19:15
DaemonFCMore effort is going into Wine lately to convert everything to PE to look to applications that closely inspect the environment like a real Windows installation than adding APIs.Dec 08 19:16
DaemonFCThat's kind of telling, you know, at what stage Wine development has reached.Dec 08 19:16
DaemonFCNew APIs are less important than quacking like a duck when you have some anti-cheat program running or something.Dec 08 19:17
SomeH4x0rthey say "anti-cheat", while in fact it is a rootkit, they just found a "legal" excuseDec 08 19:18
psydroid2Vista 11 has many problems and very little uptake and Vista 10 is more or less set in stone, so Wine has plenty of time to catch up, if there even is any catching up left to doDec 08 19:19
psydroid2yesDec 08 19:19
DaemonFCWindows 10 will remain on most computers that run Windows for years.Dec 08 19:19
psydroid2anti-cheat = anti-consumerDec 08 19:19
psydroid2malwareDec 08 19:19
DaemonFCThe only real news coming out about Windows 11 is how Microsoft managed to bungle so many things that settled down in Windows 10.Dec 08 19:19
DaemonFCThe marketing budget is spent and the real story unfolds.Dec 08 19:20
techrights-news"This was not the year of the Linux Desktop. We’ve been slacking on the mailbag, so we go on a feedback frenzy and answer some hard questions about desktop Linux." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146932/desktop-burnout-linux-unplugged-435/Dec 08 19:20
-altlink_4a9/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146932/desktop-burnout-linux-unplugged-435/Dec 08 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Desktop Burnout | LINUX Unplugged 435 | Jupiter BroadcastingDec 08 19:20
DaemonFCNo longer about blue ice cream, but about BIOS hacks for DRM to work and broken process schedulers, and broken file management.Dec 08 19:20
DaemonFCEdge becoming a bigger pest, which they probably will sabotage Windows 10 with too.Dec 08 19:20
DaemonFCFor uniformity.Dec 08 19:20
techrights-news#Walmart lets orders to PO Boxes go through, then sends them to FedEx, which can’t put anything in a PO Box. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/12/08/walmart-lets-orders-to-po-boxes-go-through-then-sends-them-to-fedex-which-cant-put-anything-in-a-po-box/ ䷉ #baronhk | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/08/#latestDec 08 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Walmart lets orders to PO Boxes go through, then sends them to FedEx, which can’t put anything in a PO Box. – BaronHK's RantsDec 08 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsDec 08 19:21
SomeH4x0rwas World of Warcraft (released in 2004, developed since at least 1999) the first multiplayer game with such spyware (iirc EFF said itOC is a "new feature" back then)? Or it was even earlier?Dec 08 19:21
psydroid2Microsoft has become the worst of IBM and DEC and there is nothing but going down for them to doDec 08 19:21
SomeH4x0r*said it isDec 08 19:21
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I found this.Dec 08 19:22
DaemonFCI remember a President named ObamaDec 08 19:22
DaemonFCWho rid us of that pesky OsamaDec 08 19:22
DaemonFCBut the backlash was strongDec 08 19:22
DaemonFCAnd we got Trump, which was wrong!Dec 08 19:22
DaemonFCSo now millennials have to live with their mommaDec 08 19:22
DaemonFCYes, you get $15 an hour, and the Democrats managed to cause so much inflation that it's only worth $7.25.Dec 08 19:23
DaemonFCEnjoy!Dec 08 19:23
DaemonFC-BidenDec 08 19:23
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The Catholics posted a housekeeper job where mom used to work.Dec 08 19:23
DaemonFCThe top line read "Starts at $12-15 an hour.".Dec 08 19:24
DaemonFCThen in the body of the listing, it says "Starts at $10 an hour.".Dec 08 19:24
DaemonFCSo I asked mom about this.Dec 08 19:24
DaemonFCShe said the boss said they have a $3,000 sign-on bonus for nurses, "but we don't pay it unless they mention it, and most don't notice it at all".Dec 08 19:25
DaemonFC"Why can't we get any help?" Meanwhile, all the other places are doing $10,000 bonuses, $20,000 bonuses.Dec 08 19:25
DaemonFCIn Indiana that's a lot. You can get that sign-on bonus and it's enough for a 20-50% down payment on a house, unless you apply for a Catholic facility that only offers $3k and makes you go out of your way to notice it in size 1 font.Dec 08 19:26
DaemonFCSo there's a bunch of people who start there, don't get any bonus, and the place just keeps it.Dec 08 19:26
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techrights-news#MicrosoftTim keeps pushing #RustLang for #Linux ; says a lot who stands to benefit from the move (clue: the company that owns and controls and occasionally manipulates #GitHub )Dec 08 19:36
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techrights-newsThe problem is the browser and the #www rather than #debian #gnu #linux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian Debian should start packaging #geminiProtocol clients...Dec 08 19:47
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techrights-newsWhen #microsoft controls the #kubernetes blog to shill #nsa backdoored crap like #windows https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/12/08/dual-stack-networking-ga/Dec 08 19:48
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techrights-newsSmells like a 'plug'... https://pointieststick.com/2021/12/07/what-a-good-laptop-needs/ is this a paid-for post??Dec 08 20:03
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schestowitz-TRMinceR: is archlinuyx canada based?Dec 08 20:05
schestowitz-TRdistrowatch says it isDec 08 20:05
schestowitz-TRand afaik they make a new iso each monthDec 08 20:05
schestowitz-TRso there's never like a major release of itDec 08 20:05
schestowitz-TRjust rolling on and onDec 08 20:06
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Dec 08 20:06
MinceRbeing systemd-based is bad enoughDec 08 20:06
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MinceRbeing so because they couldn't write or copy rc scripts worth a damn is even worseDec 08 20:06
schestowitz-TRMinceR: worse than canadian?Dec 08 20:06
MinceRand so's dragging their feet about implementing package signingDec 08 20:06
schestowitz-TRsigned by who?Dec 08 20:07
MinceRthe distributorDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TRis it like sigstore?Dec 08 20:07
MinceRnoDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TRah, OK, differentDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TRnot LF crapDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TRGulag+IBMDec 08 20:07
MinceRindeedDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TRsigsotre is IBM+Google mostlyDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TRLF frontingDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TRIBM knows a gulag when it sees oneDec 08 20:07
MinceRthey even used to remove documentation from packages and tell you to look it up online, i'm not sure if they still do thatDec 08 20:07
schestowitz-TR$_$Dec 08 20:07
MinceRthere are several reasons to avoid arch and i'm not aware of any reason to particularly want to use itDec 08 20:08
schestowitz-TRsystem dehomagDec 08 20:08
schestowitz-TRMinceR: so you would not recommend archDec 08 20:08
schestowitz Arch 2021.12.01 is outDec 08 20:08
MinceRi would notDec 08 20:09
schestowitz-TRgood to knowDec 08 20:10
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schestowitz-TRas I took you use of it as a semi-endorsementDec 08 20:10
schestowitz-TRDebian is still OK for meDec 08 20:10
schestowitz-TRI don't complain, there's not much to complain aboutDec 08 20:10
MinceRi don't use archDec 08 20:10
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MinceRi tried it out ages agoDec 08 20:10
MinceRand then went back to debian or something like thatDec 08 20:11
Techrights-secare those who are not testifying at the trial, but could, staying out toDec 08 20:11
Techrights-secprotect bill?Dec 08 20:11
XRevan86schestowitz: MinceR is a non-compomising hater of systemd, I am surprised ye would think MinceR would even slightly endorse it.Dec 08 20:11
schestowitz-TRinteresting questionDec 08 20:11
schestowitz-TRthere are two bills to protectDec 08 20:11
MinceRXRevan86: what's next, "graybeard"?Dec 08 20:11
MinceRwanting to run a free unix system makes people "haters"Dec 08 20:11
schestowitz-TRit's a PR tacticDec 08 20:11
schestowitz-TRTeam Mono used itDec 08 20:11
schestowitz-TRall who hate us are hatersDec 08 20:12
XRevan86MinceR: Didn't think ye would take offence to that.Dec 08 20:12
schestowitz-TRraspi: "Microsoft bashing"Dec 08 20:12
XRevan86MinceR: Consider that ye make your hate towards systemd very clear very often.Dec 08 20:12
schestowitz-TRtranslation: people not wanting to be spied on by MicrosoftDec 08 20:12
MinceRback when i tried arch, it didn't use systemd, iircDec 08 20:12
XRevan86* ConsideringDec 08 20:12
MinceRbut it was already unappealingDec 08 20:12
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: it is not hatredDec 08 20:12
schestowitz-TRit's rejectionDec 08 20:12
schestowitz-TRnot the same thingDec 08 20:12
MinceRlargely because a lot of documentation was unavailable to installDec 08 20:13
schestowitz-TRI don't hate everything I do not useDec 08 20:13
XRevan86schestowitz: He brings it up even when systemd is just present in the room somewhere.Dec 08 20:13
schestowitz-TRit's being foisted upon usDec 08 20:13
schestowitz-TRit's not a choiceDec 08 20:13
schestowitz-TRso we can say, "DO NOT WANT!!"Dec 08 20:14
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XRevan86When one says "systemd bad" even when the topic is apt dependency solving, it's going a bit too far.Dec 08 20:14
schestowitz-TRgee, did I just compare LP to pedobear?Dec 08 20:14
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: maybe notDec 08 20:14
schestowitz-TRbecause it's everywhereDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRit's hard to know if systemd is NOT to blameDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRit took over so many system functionsDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRto the point of breaking some under particular scenariosDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRand debugging it can be hardDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRso you need to buy IBM supportDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRor retrainDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRor open a Microsoft accountDec 08 20:15
MinceRiirc the topic was not apt dependency solving but breaking a linux mint install through sheer stupidity :>Dec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRto report/study bugsDec 08 20:15
schestowitz-TRthat, to me, is a step backDec 08 20:15
XRevan86MinceR: It was a Pop!_OS installation.Dec 08 20:16
schestowitz-TRunless you're Big DehomagDec 08 20:16
MinceRoh, right, another lendows flavorDec 08 20:16
MinceRunofficial flavor, evenDec 08 20:16
MinceRnot blessed by ibmDec 08 20:16
MinceRbut then, debian does use dependencies as a weapon against users who don't want to run programs considered holy by the people in charge of debianDec 08 20:16
schestowitz-TRmight get mugshot of graveley next week (police/arrest)Dec 08 20:17
XRevan86MinceR: Time to go full Flatpak then?Dec 08 20:17
MinceRlol wutDec 08 20:17
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XRevan86No dependencies, no problem?Dec 08 20:17
MinceRnoDec 08 20:17
schestowitz-TRlolDec 08 20:17
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MinceRit's better to switch to a real OSDec 08 20:18
schestowitz-TRapp mentalityDec 08 20:18
schestowitz-TRor windowsDec 08 20:18
schestowitz-TRmore like appDec 08 20:18
schestowitz-TRor containerDec 08 20:18
schestowitz-TRone OS, 10 OSes in itDec 08 20:18
schestowitz-TRone for each browserDec 08 20:18
XRevan86MinceR: Who's to say "real OS" doesn't use dependencies as a weapon?Dec 08 20:18
MinceRbecause that's not what a real OS is designed forDec 08 20:19
MinceRits purpose is not "hey, let's make sure that people who don't want any of our shiny new malware don't get to avoid using it!"Dec 08 20:19
XRevan86MinceR: So a real OS is Gentoo?Dec 08 20:20
XRevan86I don't know why it took me so long to figure this puzzle out.Dec 08 20:20
MinceRprobablyDec 08 20:20
MinceRthere are a couple real OS-es for nowDec 08 20:20
SomeH4x0riirc Gentoo still has a package managerDec 08 20:20
SomeH4x0rdefine "real" thoughDec 08 20:20
MinceRand there's nothing wrong with having a package managerDec 08 20:21
MinceRXRevan86 is trying real hard to twist my wordsDec 08 20:21
XRevan86SomeH4x0r: Gentoo is flexible enough to fully support having systemd and not having systemd to a point where even libsystemd is not present, because nothing was linked with it.Dec 08 20:21
XRevan86Because the user is the one who chooses whether to link stuff in or not.Dec 08 20:22
*psydroid2 wonders when systemd is becoming a part of a new POSIX standardDec 08 20:24
schestowitz-TRit would be  a POSDec 08 20:25
schestowitz-TRno *IX in itDec 08 20:25
schestowitz-TRor *NIXDec 08 20:25
schestowitz-TRseems like a very non-modular thingDec 08 20:25
MinceRdon't they consider POSIX to be obsolete already and push The Closed Group's SUS instead?Dec 08 20:25
schestowitz-TRimmodouar if it was a wordDec 08 20:25
schestowitz-TR*immoidularDec 08 20:25
psydroid2System V Release 6Dec 08 20:25
MinceR(which is basically "give us a lot of money and you can use the trademarks novell handed off to us")Dec 08 20:26
psydroid2or System VIDec 08 20:26
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: systemd can work OKDec 08 20:26
schestowitz-TRI get stuck sometimes when things do not work wellDec 08 20:26
XRevan86What bothers me is that even Alpine may stop being a "real OS" when MinceR decides that a "real OS" must not contain libpulse ever.Dec 08 20:26
psydroid2ah, the Systemd standardDec 08 20:26
schestowitz-TRthe extra layers of complexity don't helpDec 08 20:26
schestowitz-TRand old howtos are no longer "relkevant"Dec 08 20:26
schestowitz-TRsoon the manuals with certain "bad" words in them will also be outdatedDec 08 20:27
MinceRXRevan86: why does my opinion bother you so much?Dec 08 20:27
psydroid2what used to apply to GNU/Linux still applies to OpenBSDDec 08 20:27
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: IBM will dump puse too some time soonDec 08 20:27
schestowitz-TRfor pipewireDec 08 20:27
schestowitz-TRmove fastDec 08 20:27
schestowitz-TRbreak linuxDec 08 20:27
MinceRoh, also, poettering explicitly said he ignores POSIXDec 08 20:27
schestowitz-TRavahiDec 08 20:28
XRevan86schestowitz: * libpipewire / libpulseDec 08 20:28
schestowitz"The Avahi project started in 2004 because Apple's Zeroconf implementation, Bonjour, used the GPL-incompatible Apple Public Source License. In 2006 Apple relicensed parts of Bonjour under the Apache License.[2]"Dec 08 20:28
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_(software)Dec 08 20:28
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XRevan86MinceR: Why did it bother you that I called you a hater of systemd? I thought it's only accurate.Dec 08 20:30
XRevan86MinceR: The point I'm making is that for a compiled distribution it's impossible to be a "real OS" by your criteria.Dec 08 20:31
MinceRseemed both irrelevant and something that has turned extremely repetitiveDec 08 20:31
MinceRand that point is wrongDec 08 20:32
XRevan86MinceR: Aren't ye pointing at Devuan and the libelogind dependency that is going to be present regardless?Dec 08 20:32
MinceRthere's no need to avoid binary packages to stop e.g. building OpenSSH with a nearly functionless libsystemd0 dependency while telling your users that running a debian system without systemd is still supportedDec 08 20:32
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: it is a hard thing to removeDec 08 20:33
schestowitz-TRI can swap out most thingsDec 08 20:33
schestowitz-TRit's a massive challengeDec 08 20:33
schestowitz-TRlike whose reinstallDec 08 20:33
schestowitz-TRto get systemd off a machineDec 08 20:34
schestowitz-TRunlike most other packagesDec 08 20:34
schestowitz-TRexcept maybe LinuxDec 08 20:34
schestowitz-TRI doubt you can change to another kernel on a 'live' system and just boot into some BDSDec 08 20:34
schestowitz-TR*BSDDec 08 20:34
XRevan86schestowitz: When a hatred^W rejection of systemd is so strong that even the library is to be avoided, suddenly a distribution even giving systemd as an option becomes unacceptable.Dec 08 20:34
schestowitz-TRgnu linux-libre is just linux with less stuffDec 08 20:34
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: distros do not give it as an optionDec 08 20:35
schestowitz-TRit's not optionalDec 08 20:35
schestowitz-TRtry apk/apt/yum remove systemdDec 08 20:35
schestowitz-TRsee how that goesDec 08 20:35
XRevan86schestowitz: The Debian/Devuan thing kind of is that, since Devuan uses the Debian package tree.Dec 08 20:35
schestowitz-TRdnf Dec 08 20:35
XRevan86schestowitz: They found a funky workaround with libelogind, but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of packages in the Devuan package tree (i.e. taken from Debian) were built with libsystemd.Dec 08 20:36
XRevan86It's a discussion that MinceR and I have for so many years.Dec 08 20:37
techrights-newsKernel: Intel, Google, and WireGuard • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 20:37
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MinceRXRevan86: so, what is the benefit of linking something like OpenSSH to that library?Dec 08 20:37
XRevan86MinceR: https://salsa.debian.org/ssh-team/openssh/-/blob/master/debian/patches/systemd-readiness.patchDec 08 20:40
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XRevan86Makes it work better with systemd, believe it or not.Dec 08 20:41
MinceRthat doesn't really explain anythingDec 08 20:44
XRevan86> The best systemd behavior, though, would come from adding sd_notify support so that sshd can affirmatively tell systemd whether it succeeded in startup or not, and then using Type=notify.  Then sshd startup won't be considered complete until the sshd daemon calls sd_notify, and the correct status will be reported if it exits for some reason before doing so.Dec 08 20:46
MinceRi'm not sure why this is considered to be such a great and important featureDec 08 20:46
MinceRwhat guarantees that the daemon won't fail, freeze or crash _after_ it passes that particular point in execution?Dec 08 20:46
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XRevan86MinceR: This is for "Restart=on-failure"Dec 08 20:48
MinceRso you want OpenSSH to restart in a loop if and only if it fails before that point in executionDec 08 20:49
MinceRwhy is that a good thing?Dec 08 20:49
immibisMinceR: you put the feature AFTER all the points where the daemon can fail, freeze or crash on startup...Dec 08 20:49
immibisint main() {initialize(); sd_notify(); while(true) {serve_requests();}}Dec 08 20:49
immibisthen, systemd still considers sshd as "starting up" until initialization is doneDec 08 20:50
immibisthis is actually a useful feature for any process manager and i wish the implementation wasn't systemd-specificDec 08 20:50
schestowitzhttps://www.debugpoint.com/2021/12/microsoft-performance-tools-linux/Dec 08 20:51
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schestowitzmore junkDec 08 20:51
MinceRimmibis: it can fail anywhereDec 08 20:52
MinceRand if you say that its dependents should only start after it's initialized, well, the above code has a race condition for thatDec 08 20:53
immibisdoes it? what is the race condition?Dec 08 20:53
MinceRsd_notify(); sends the notification; dependent service starts, tries to connect and fails; while loop startsDec 08 20:53
immibisthere is no race condition when accepting connections, because creating the server socket is part of the initialize step, and after that, incoming connections are buffered by the kernel until serve_requests()Dec 08 20:53
MinceRsounds like you could just watch for the server socket being createdDec 08 20:54
immibisyou want dependents to POLL?!Dec 08 20:54
MinceRmaybe the service manager could do itDec 08 20:54
immibissystemd probably has that feature. downstream services shouldn't need toDec 08 20:54
immibisstill why should systemd need to poll?Dec 08 20:54
MinceRthen again, maybe you could just use xinetd for thatDec 08 20:54
techrights-newsThis Extension Reproduces Old Fashioned Desktop Cube in GNOME 40 / 41 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158835#comment-32011Dec 08 20:54
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immibispolling is a hackDec 08 20:55
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MinceRso is using a systemd-specific interface to signal readinessDec 08 20:55
immibisMinceR: you will be shocked to know that systemd ALSO supports not starting the service until after it receives its first connection, like xinetd, although i think the interface is differentDec 08 20:55
immibiswell yeah i did say it probably shouldn't be systemd-specific because it is a good idea for all init systemsDec 08 20:55
MinceRbut of course it isn't going to work any other way when the people pushing for this don't _want_ anyone to have a choice of service managersDec 08 20:55
immibishave you tried implementing the systemd interface?Dec 08 20:56
MinceRnoDec 08 20:56
MinceRa lot of its "interface" relies on dbugs, which is an abominationDec 08 20:56
immibisthis is open source software, the saying is code or gtfo. now that's not an option for systemd because it's pretty closed to design changes AIUI. so make a wrapper that converts systemd insanity into whatever you likeDec 08 20:58
MinceRyeah, i know that oneDec 08 20:58
MinceR"just fork MY software and use it, because it's "open source""Dec 08 20:59
MinceR"if you don't like MY way of doing things then you're just a hater and a bigot!"Dec 08 20:59
immibiswho said anything about haters and bigotsDec 08 21:00
immibisopen source is a meritocracy and the free market has decided the systemd guy is much much better than youDec 08 21:00
MinceRthat's a free market?Dec 08 21:01
XRevan86immibis: I called MinceR a systemd hater, didn't expect a strong reaction from that.Dec 08 21:01
hyperrealhi allDec 08 21:01
MinceRalso, no, "open source" is not a meritocracyDec 08 21:01
MinceR"open source" is an attack on free software, driven by the fiercest enemies of free softwareDec 08 21:01
immibisMinceR: believe it or not, free markets don't always go your wayDec 08 21:02
immibisabsolutely no government is mandating the use of systemd in linux distrosDec 08 21:02
MinceR"open source" is a method to accommodate OSPS and try to dress it up as if it was equivalent to free softwareDec 08 21:02
MinceRimmibis: so i take it you haven't heard of Restricted Boot eitherDec 08 21:02
MinceRor how red hat and canonical paid their alleged competitor microsoft to gain temporary entry into the PC OS marketDec 08 21:03
immibisabsolutely no government is mandating the use of restricted bootDec 08 21:03
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immibisat least not for YOUR computer. maybe they use it internallyDec 08 21:03
MinceRmicrosoft's deals with OEMs apparently mandate itDec 08 21:03
immibismicrosoft is not a governmentDec 08 21:03
immibisOEMs are not a governmentDec 08 21:03
MinceRbecause it's practically impossible to get a new PC without such malware on itDec 08 21:03
MinceRso what?Dec 08 21:03
immibisand OEMs are just companies that assemble PCs for you. Try assembling your own insteadDec 08 21:03
immibisit comes without microsoftDec 08 21:03
MinceRwhen private corporations distort the market with government help, that doesn't count?Dec 08 21:03
immibisthe government does not help microsoft make deals with OEMs about restricted bootDec 08 21:04
MinceRyeah, try manufacturing your own x86 CPUs and see if the government will help the x86 cartel punish you and stop you from doing soDec 08 21:04
immibisone time I tried manufacturing my own money and the government helped the money cartel punish me and stop me from doing soDec 08 21:04
immibisone time I tried robbing my own bank and the government helped the bank cartel punish me and stop me from doing soDec 08 21:04
MinceRdo you have an actual point or are you merely trying to waste everybody's time?Dec 08 21:05
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immibisfree markets are not magic do-everything-the-way-i-like machinesDec 08 21:05
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immibisif you want everything done the way you like then do it yourselfDec 08 21:05
MinceRfree markets are not machinesDec 08 21:05
MinceRthey're merely markets that are freeDec 08 21:06
XRevan86Maybe a free market would have been more feasible if the manufacturing process wasn't patented through and through.Dec 08 21:06
MinceRand it's obvious to anyone who has spent a decade in the industry that the PC OS market is not a free marketDec 08 21:06
XRevan86It's a funny anecdote that patents were invented to help the little guy.Dec 08 21:06
MinceRindeedDec 08 21:06
MinceRcopyrights aren't better eitherDec 08 21:07
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immibisis the government enforcing PCs to come with a certain OS?Dec 08 21:09
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schestowitzMicro Larabel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MS-Performance-Tools-LinuxDec 08 21:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Releases Performance Tools For Linux/Android - PhoronixDec 08 21:10
hyperreal@MinceR what Unix-like distro do you use?Dec 08 21:10
MinceROpenBSD, Bedrock, DevuanDec 08 21:10
hyperreal(you may have told me the other day, but I forgot)Dec 08 21:10
schestowitzVERY IMPORTANT News from PhoronixDec 08 21:10
MinceRoh, also postmarketOSDec 08 21:10
schestowitzpostgresOS nextDec 08 21:10
schestowitzeverything as a file = unixDec 08 21:11
MinceRlolDec 08 21:11
schestowitzeverything as a DB = postgresOS Dec 08 21:11
hyperrealMinceR I see you are more of a Unix puristDec 08 21:12
MinceRimmibis: the point isn't really whether the government is interfering with the market or not. but some of the things they do (such as enforcing patents) do interfereDec 08 21:12
MinceRwell, i'm someone who got tired of the brokenness of windows and moved to GNU/LinuxDec 08 21:12
MinceRthen the windows people moved to GNU/Linux and started turning it into windowsDec 08 21:12
techrights-newsHow many #gnu #linux 'news' sites seriously think that #microsoft vomiting stuff out is "news" to GNU/Linux users? Links and context omitted, but #phoronix joins Microsoft boosters like #neowinDec 08 21:12
MinceRand i haven't grown to like windows in the meantimeDec 08 21:12
hyperrealI seeDec 08 21:14
hyperrealMinceR do you have a Gemini capsule?Dec 08 21:14
techrights-news"A big improvement has been merged into XWayland called DRM (Direct Rendering Manager) Leasing, which should allow good VR support under Wayland. Something we've been waiting on!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/xwayland-gets-drm-leasing-support-for-helping-vr-on-linuxDec 08 21:14
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MinceRnot yetDec 08 21:14
MinceRi don't even have much of a website currentlyDec 08 21:14
schestowitz-TRI can help if you need itDec 08 21:15
MinceRi don't really have anything to put there :>Dec 08 21:15
schestowitz-TRmaybe run a mirror for .hu newsDec 08 21:16
schestowitz-TRthere's that guy from budapest who does charting of gemini stasDec 08 21:16
schestowitz-TRbotond or whateverDec 08 21:16
MinceRi have other stuff to doDec 08 21:17
schestowitz-TRfair enoughDec 08 21:17
MinceRi have actually put some code up on codeberg thoughDec 08 21:17
schestowitz-TRyou can put git in geminiDec 08 21:18
schestowitz-TRwe posted all the codeDec 08 21:18
schestowitz-TRagplv3Dec 08 21:18
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schestowitzXRevan86: oh wowDec 08 21:19
schestowitzhttp://opennet.ru/Dec 08 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opennet.ru | OpenNet ?? "www" - ??????? ???? ???? ? ????? ?, Linux, BSD ? Unix ?????Dec 08 21:19
schestowitzI've just realised tuxmachines is at the bottom of all the pagesDec 08 21:19
XRevan86schestowitz: Um, what?Dec 08 21:20
schestowitz-TRtuxmachines is syndicated thereDec 08 21:20
schestowitz-TRin the footers of pages, sort ofDec 08 21:20
*XRevan86 doesn't see it.Dec 08 21:21
SomeH4x0rI didn't notice anything eitherDec 08 21:21
schestowitze.g. http://opennet.ru/english.shtmlDec 08 21:21
schestowitze.g. http://opennet.ru/english.shtmlDec 08 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opennet.ru | The OpenNet Project - English indexDec 08 21:22
schestowitzsee bottomDec 08 21:22
XRevan86Oh, English OpenNET… I had no idea that exists :)Dec 08 21:22
SomeH4x0roh, I opened the main page, which is in RussianDec 08 21:22
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: it it the "foreign agent" sectionDec 08 21:22
MinceR:)Dec 08 21:23
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XRevan86I guess it's to track the news to grab.Dec 08 21:23
techrights-news"it was a great opportunity to ask him for more details about the market and where everything is headed (and if Linux fits anywhere currently)." https://boilingsteam.com/the-dramatic-rise-of-esports-worldwide/Dec 08 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | The Dramatic Rise of Esports Worldwide - Boiling SteamDec 08 21:24
techrights-news"In a world where browser extensions basically deliver discounts t e-commerce sites as soon as they’re needed, it can be strange to consider the printed coupon in that context." https://tedium.co/2021/12/08/manufacturers-coupon-history/Dec 08 21:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Manufacturers Coupon History: Running Discounts, With ScissorsDec 08 21:25
techrights-newsGermany’s new government will firmly defend encryption, key Social Democrat says - EURACTIV.com ⚓ https://www.euractiv.com/section/data-protection/interview/germanys-new-government-will-firmly-defend-encryption-key-social-democrat-says/ ䷉ #euractiv is bribed by #billgates and occasionally published lies, so let's see how this goes...Dec 08 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Germany’s new government will firmly defend encryption, key Social Democrat says – EURACTIV.comDec 08 21:26
schestowitzactivelow: ^^Dec 08 21:27
MinceRhttps://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/imce/2014/06-JUN/Don-Martin_Around-Noon-on-a-Movie-Set_53908a59427474.29237856.jpgDec 08 21:29
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▁▂▃▁▁▂▁▂▃▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▃▃▄▂▃▂▂▁▃▂▃▁▁▂▃▁▂▂▂▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 8.06 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁██▁▁▁███▁██▁▁▁▁█▄▂▁▁▁█▁█▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 166.33▕ swarm size (avg): 254.17  ⟲Dec 08 21:30
techrights-newsThe intriguing implications of SFC v Vizio http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156985#comment-32013Dec 08 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vizio Sued for GPL Violations | Tux MachinesDec 08 21:31
techrights-news"A #css based keylogger" #www #Surveillance #SurveillanceCaptalism https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007663.htmlDec 08 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Tech] The security consequences of the Web complexityDec 08 21:33
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immibisMinceR: are you opposed to property rights?Dec 08 21:36
schestowitz-TRdefine thatDec 08 21:37
schestowitz-TRis land property?Dec 08 21:37
immibisdefine property rights?Dec 08 21:37
schestowitz-TRideas property?Dec 08 21:37
schestowitz-TRyes, define itDec 08 21:37
immibisproperty rights are generally when you can trade the right to shoot other people if they do certain thingsDec 08 21:37
schestowitz-TReven "property" itself need defining Dec 08 21:38
immibisor the indirect right to shoot or imprison peopleDec 08 21:38
immibisreducing all possible punishments to "shooting" or "imprisonment" is a libertarian pastime...Dec 08 21:38
MinceRimmibis: no, i'm not opposed to property rightsDec 08 21:38
MinceRbut i don't consider Imaginary Property to be propertyDec 08 21:38
immibisit sounds like you don't think people should own their work output. are you a communist?Dec 08 21:39
SomeH4x0rI support the opinion that copyright is imaginaryDec 08 21:40
immibissounds communistDec 08 21:40
SomeH4x0rI don't consider it to be propertyDec 08 21:40
MinceRno, the communists are the ones who try to centrally control who may enter a particular marketDec 08 21:40
immibisin this here capitalist economy we believe in people pulling up their own bootstraps and doing whatever they like with the things they createDec 08 21:40
MinceRlike microsoftDec 08 21:41
SomeH4x0rbecause it is another thing, something that can be copied and distributed indefinitely. You wouldn't download a carDec 08 21:41
immibisit's only communist when a government does itDec 08 21:41
MinceRi would download a car if i couldDec 08 21:41
MinceRwell, then there's an easy solution for youDec 08 21:41
MinceRrename the government to something that is not "government"Dec 08 21:41
SomeH4x0rI don't like the presence of the police on the InternetDec 08 21:41
MinceRboom, they're allowed to do anything!Dec 08 21:41
psydroid2free software magically became open source!Dec 08 21:42
immibisthat is unironically what libertarians wantDec 08 21:42
immibisdo we have a derogatory term for libertarians?Dec 08 21:42
immibisfun fact: true anarchy has been tried, and it evolved into governmentsDec 08 21:42
techrights-news#CrowdStrike itself is #Microsoft -connected, as I noted many dozens of times over the years https://nitter.eu/stautistic/status/1468334293084561410?s=21Dec 08 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "Microsoft has a monopoly on almost every threat vector, is the most expensive architecture by far, and is a champion of vendor lock-in. Meanwhile in journalism: “Customers losing trust in Microsoft” Where does journalism think Gates learned this trick?😉 https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php" | nitterDec 08 21:43
MinceRfun fact: that doesn't make government a good ideaDec 08 21:43
SomeH4x0rAnything that has its source code posted in publicly accessible sources is open sourceDec 08 21:44
schestowitz[21:42] <psydroid2> free software magically became open source!Dec 08 21:45
schestowitzMicrosoft became "Loves Linux"Dec 08 21:45
immibisMinceR: so you're an advocate of renaming government to something that's not "government"Dec 08 21:49
immibisbecause that's what happens when you have no government: you do have a government, it's just not called thatDec 08 21:49
SomeH4x0r"Freedom is slavery"?Dec 08 21:50
SomeH4x0rdon't break the language at leastDec 08 21:50
MinceRimmibis: no, i advocate enlightening people so they won't want a government and will disagree with the notion that it is moral for people to have authority over other peopleDec 08 21:51
MinceRimmibis: also, i'm an advocate of not putting words in other people's mouths.Dec 08 21:51
techrights-news#theregister became #wbspam or #spamfarm : "PAID POST... Sponsored by Kasten" https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/07/kubernetes_express_kasten/ see http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/Dec 08 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Want to get aboard the Kubernetes Express? Start learning now • The RegisterDec 08 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | TechrightsDec 08 22:00
techrights-newsYet more of Microsoft inside the 'Linux' Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158828#comment-32015Dec 08 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 'Linux' Foundation Leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 08 22:07
techrights-newsOf course the latest #linuxfoundation project uses #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware hosting for the code. #deletegithubDec 08 22:08
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techrights-news#TWCN 'Tech' 'News' is 'covering' "Linux" today... telling #gnu #linux users to install a #microsoft PASSWORD STEALER. DO NOT TOUCH EDGE. It's malware. http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/Dec 08 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bruce Schneier: Microsoft Edge is Apparently a Password Stealer Too, Even on GNU/Linux | TechrightsDec 08 22:12
techrights-newsLOL. #ibm has just got a new kidney. "Hello! My name is Emma Kidney. I am currently an intern for the CPE (Community Platform Engineering) team at Red Hat." #redhatDec 08 22:13
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/hIXHGdZ.jpegDec 08 22:14
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techrights-news"Emma Kidney [...] an intern for the CPE (Community Platform Engineering) team at Red Hat [...] . I am interested in web accessibilty and universal design. I believe the web should be accessible for all, no matter what your abilities are." So tell #redhat to fix its Web sites. They shut out blind people and demand you run #ProprietarySoftware #javascriptDec 08 22:15
schestowitzMinceR: pussy, catDec 08 22:15
techrights-news#ibm #redhat focuses too much on optics and theatrics, using the diversity scope to distract from what IBM ACTUALLY is, and always was... yes, it also helped Hitler 'euthanise' hundreds of thousands of disabled people (Aktion T4) http://techrights.org/wiki/IBMDec 08 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - TechrightsDec 08 22:18
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techrights-newsSo what if #ibm founder was an enthusiastic fan of Hitler, right #redhat h RIGHT? Far-right? http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/Dec 08 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | TechrightsDec 08 22:19
techrights-newsCome on, people. Give #IBM a break. It's not like it's some Nazi company. Oh... http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/edwin-black-2021/Dec 08 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Interview With Edwin Black: IBM Has Never Apologised, Instead It Hid Its Role in Nazi Germany | TechrightsDec 08 22:20
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immibisMinceR: if you don't have a government, then you do have a government, it's just not called thatDec 08 22:22
immibisfor example, google might be the government in that scenario.Dec 08 22:23
techrights-newsZorin OS 16 Lite is a great Linux-based Windows 11 alternative for older PCs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158878#comment-32016Dec 08 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Celebrates More Than 1 Million Downloads with Lite Edition | Tux MachinesDec 08 22:23
MinceRimmibis: in that case, every person should be their own "government", with authority only over themselvesDec 08 22:23
techrights-newsLittle Switzerlands: Alpine Kitsch in England – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/little-switzerlands-alpine-kitsch-in-england/ ䷉ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain #SwitzerlandDec 08 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Little Switzerlands: Alpine Kitsch in England – The Public Domain ReviewDec 08 22:24
schestowitz-TRMinceR: who 'owns' the government?Dec 08 22:24
schestowitz-TRwhose 'property'?Dec 08 22:24
schestowitz-TRdoes a government have "rights"?Dec 08 22:24
schestowitz-TRis the government an organism?Dec 08 22:25
schestowitz-TRlet's cross over to philosophy meme siteDec 08 22:25
MinceRschestowitz-TR: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?Dec 08 22:25
schestowitz-TRdon't speak latin, but can guess what that saysDec 08 22:27
MinceR"who watches the watchmen?" or something like thatDec 08 22:27
techrights-newsMeet Calculate Linux 22! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158875#comment-32017Dec 08 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 22 Released with PipeWire, Improved System Updates | Tux MachinesDec 08 22:27
schestowitz-TRwell, with epo coverage we do lots of watching of european orgsDec 08 22:27
schestowitz-TRwhich is very rewarding Dec 08 22:27
schestowitz-TRas the media is mostly asleep or dead(weight)Dec 08 22:28
techrights-news"This release contains bug fixes to improve robustness. This release note describes what’s different between Istio 1.12.0 and #Istio 1.12.1" https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.12.x/announcing-1.12.1/Dec 08 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Announcing Istio 1.12.1Dec 08 22:28
leahcountry/land = computerDec 08 22:29
leahstate = operating systemDec 08 22:29
leahgovernment = operating system kernelDec 08 22:29
schestowitz-TRallocates resourcesDec 08 22:29
leahwithout a central government, you might end up with a series of smaller governments instead. and they might have to work with each otherDec 08 22:29
schestowitz-TRsysytemd is..?Dec 08 22:29
leahand then you might in that instance have a microkernelDec 08 22:29
schestowitz-TRsystemd is like state-connected mafiaDec 08 22:30
schestowitz-TRit runs everythingDec 08 22:30
schestowitz-TRbut "officials"... just an "init system"Dec 08 22:30
schestowitz-TR*oficiallyDec 08 22:30
leahnah systemd is more like a government oversight committee that got too huge and is almost another governmentDec 08 22:30
schestowitz-TRyou can reject the mafiaDec 08 22:31
schestowitz-TRbut then it starts burning your stuffDec 08 22:31
schestowitz-TRlinux= wall streetDec 08 22:31
schestowitz-TRsystem= k streetDec 08 22:31
schestowitz-TR*systemdDec 08 22:31
leahdepartment of foreign affairs = networking codeDec 08 22:32
schestowitz-TRbut gnu runs the showDec 08 22:32
schestowitz-TRand gets no creditDec 08 22:32
schestowitz-TRthe media tells me ls is linux commandDec 08 22:32
schestowitz-TRbut i man lsDec 08 22:32
schestowitz-TRand I don't see a finnish dude namedDec 08 22:33
schestowitz-TRmaybe it's not a linux thingDec 08 22:33
leahls is part of coreutilsDec 08 22:33
schestowitz-TRi knowDec 08 22:33
schestowitz-TRlinux coreutils ;-)Dec 08 22:33
schestowitz-TRin ls the l stands for linux ;-)Dec 08 22:33
leahto be fair though, linus would probably do a good job if he did reimplement coreutilsDec 08 22:33
techrights-newsRubber Tyres Before There Were Tyres | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/12/08/rubber-tyres-before-there-were-tyres/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/08/#latestDec 08 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubber Tyres Before There Were Tyres | HackadayDec 08 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsDec 08 22:35
schestowitz-TRleah: it would be called LinuSDec 08 22:35
schestowitz-TRhe calls things after himselfDec 08 22:35
MinceRsystemd is that megacorporation that effectively became the government :>Dec 08 22:35
leahoh myDec 08 22:35
MinceRor churchDec 08 22:35
schestowitz-TRMinceR: old ibmDec 08 22:35
leahnah gnu is the churchDec 08 22:35
schestowitz-TRbefore it became a dying monsterDec 08 22:35
leahlinux is more of a citadelDec 08 22:36
activelowwhat would benefit the GNU branding more: a strong linux branding or a weak one?Dec 08 22:36
MinceRa citadel with way too many microsoft soldiers in itDec 08 22:36
leahlxo is a high priestDec 08 22:36
leahwhat would benefit gnu more is a decent git hosting siteDec 08 22:38
leahand a rewrite. many of its tools are bloated and/or buggyDec 08 22:38
activelowbusybox existsDec 08 22:38
leahgnuboxDec 08 22:39
activelowhowever, there is no real alternative to the #1 GNU project: GCCDec 08 22:39
leahexcept llvmDec 08 22:39
activelowwhich isn't an alternative, because it is equally heavyweightDec 08 22:39
activelowa corporate monstrosityDec 08 22:39
activelowSDCC compiler, couldn't test it yet, 16bit unix systems, it's GPL tooDec 08 22:40
leahit didn't have to be that way. chris lattner offered llvm to gnu in 2005Dec 08 22:40
activelowinteresting.Dec 08 22:40
techrights-newsSnowball Fights in Art (1400–1946) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/snowball-fights/ ䷉ #publicdomainreviewDec 08 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Snowball Fights in Art (1400–1946) – The Public Domain ReviewDec 08 22:40
leahhttps://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc/2005-11/msg00888.htmlDec 08 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Chris Lattner - LLVM/GCC Integration ProposalDec 08 22:40
leahthere is an alternative universe where https://www.gnu.org/software/llvm existsDec 08 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnu.org/software/llvm )Dec 08 22:42
activelowllvm was written in c++ ?Dec 08 22:42
activelowi am already looking forward to compiling linux kernel with a C99 compliant compiler... without any magical extension supportedDec 08 22:44
techrights-newsMade To Spec: The Coming Age Of Prototyping As A Service | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/12/08/made-to-spec-the-coming-age-of-prototyping-as-a-service/ ䷉ #hackaday #pcbDec 08 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Made To Spec: The Coming Age Of Prototyping As A Service | HackadayDec 08 22:45
MinceRhttps://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/baby-hunt.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2018/10/is-it-baby-season-already/ )Dec 08 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | Is it baby season already?Dec 08 22:46
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techrights-news#GstVA in #GStreamer 1.20 - Herostratus’ legacy ⚓ https://blogs.igalia.com/vjaquez/2021/12/08/gstva-in-gstreamer-1-20/ ䷉ #igalia #linux #freeswDec 08 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | GstVA in GStreamer 1.20 – Herostratus’ legacyDec 08 22:49
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techrights-news#ubuntu Revisiting default initramfs compression ⚓ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-December/041726.html ䷉ #canonical #linuxDec 08 22:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | Revisiting default initramfs compressionDec 08 22:51
techrights-news#TechDecisions = #spamfarm or #www as a link farm of crap. Web is dying... being overrun by fake reviews, fake news, spam, marketing, provocation etc.Dec 08 22:53
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techrights-newsSquishy Robot Hardware Does Well Under Pressure | #Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/08/squishy-robot-hardware-does-well-under-pressure/Dec 08 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Squishy Robot Hardware Does Well Under Pressure | HackadayDec 08 22:55
leahschestowitz-TR: btw, we were talking about untitled yesterday. i didn't tell you:Dec 08 22:57
leahtranslations are supported now. multi-language sites are now fully supported. i just haven't updated the docs to say so yetDec 08 22:57
leahbut you can see an example of the multi-language support in use on this site:Dec 08 22:57
leahhttps://trans.chat/Dec 08 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trans.chat | TransChat – Advice for transgender people, including non-binary and intersexDec 08 22:57
leahenglish, polish and portugueseDec 08 22:57
leahi'm going to start asking for translations to libreboot.org soonDec 08 22:57
leahthose language menus on pages are automatically generatedDec 08 22:58
techrights-newsNet effect of #mozilla releasing #firefox so often is that it's a PAIN to maintain and hard to fork/branch off. Same method IBM Gulag use with #systemd and #chromium respectively... release buggy stuff very often, and nobody will catch upDec 08 22:58
leahon every page. but it's done per-page. which means you can have a situation where some pages more more or less translations than othersDec 08 22:58
leahlike on gnu.orgDec 08 22:58
leah(except i'm using markdown. those people are using texinfo)Dec 08 22:58
leahhave a look at the last few commits in untitled to see how i pulled it offDec 08 22:59
leahhttps://notabug.org/untitled/untitled/commits/masterDec 08 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Commit History · untitled/untitled - NotABug.org: Free code hostingDec 08 22:59
*schestowitz-TR checkingDec 08 22:59
leahlast 12 commitsDec 08 22:59
techrights-news#Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158895 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 08 22:59
leahrelative to 9febc23494Dec 08 23:00
leahthat and 11 commits before itDec 08 23:00
leahthe way i'm handling it is very minimalist compared to most other solutionsDec 08 23:00
schestowitz-TRbashDec 08 23:00
leahbut you could use it for other things besides translations tooDec 08 23:01
schestowitz-TRclean codeDec 08 23:01
leahfor exampleDec 08 23:01
leahproperty.sales.mdDec 08 23:01
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leahproperty.mortgages.mdDec 08 23:01
leahproperty.rent.mdDec 08 23:01
leahand "sales", "mortgages" and "rent" would appear in the menuDec 08 23:01
schestowitz"  shaggy486e1e30a0 leah is stupid6 months ago"Dec 08 23:01
leahschestowitz: shaggy is me. it's a joke. a reference to the shaggy memeDec 08 23:02
leahwhen i can't figure something out and need help, shaggy takes overDec 08 23:02
schestowitzmr loverman?Dec 08 23:02
schestowitz-TRor the cartoon?Dec 08 23:02
leahmy favourite shaggy commit is https://notabug.org/untitled/untitled/commit/73df2aa02859b993b92d5704996f00f1048f63e8Dec 08 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-don't run sha1sum twice! · 73df2aa028 - NotABug.org: Free code hostingDec 08 23:02
leahthe live action shaggy, from the live action scooby filmDec 08 23:02
leahthe one from the memeDec 08 23:02
schestowitz-TRok, the latterDec 08 23:02
leahthough i don't use sha1sum/xxhsum anymoreDec 08 23:03
schestowitz-TRif you code so much in bash thenDec 08 23:03
leahnow i use date -r file +%sDec 08 23:03
schestowitz-TRyou can easily port that over to do gemini tooDec 08 23:03
leahyepDec 08 23:03
schestowitz-TRit will be even easierDec 08 23:03
schestowitz-TRas writing out gemtext is like.... nothingDec 08 23:03
leahthat's what i want to do. it's on todoDec 08 23:03
schestowitz-TR# MenuDec 08 23:04
leahhybrid http/gemini static site generator. where gemtext can be the source markup for html tooDec 08 23:04
schestowitz-TR=> itemurl menu nameDec 08 23:04
schestowitz-TR## story titleDec 08 23:04
leahbut markdown overrides it, on http sites. but on gemini, if both exist, use the gemtextDec 08 23:04
leahi want to rewrite untitled in something a bit more performant, thoughDec 08 23:04
leahsome of the checks, especially string based checks, are a bit cursed in shell codeDec 08 23:05
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-071221.gmiDec 08 23:05
leahsomething like go perhaps. or even cDec 08 23:05
leahalso i want to rewrite the markdown->html parser in C. with templates like in pandocDec 08 23:05
leahto optimize speedDec 08 23:05
leahschestowitz: perhaps you can submit a patch?Dec 08 23:06
leahto untitled, for gemtext stuff. i'd love to work with you on itDec 08 23:06
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techrights-newsThis Arduino device can detect which language is being spoken using tinyML | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/08/this-arduino-device-can-detect-which-language-is-being-spoken/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/08/#latestDec 08 23:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This Arduino device can detect which language is being spoken using tinyML | Arduino BlogDec 08 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsDec 08 23:06
leahuntitled is my way of making fun of all the other static generators out thereDec 08 23:07
schestowitz-TRI'm only short on timeDec 08 23:07
schestowitz-TRnot short on projectsDec 08 23:07
leahi do it all in bash, and i do it better than themDec 08 23:07
leahwhile they're using all kinds of rubbishDec 08 23:07
leahiank from fsf has a nice static site generator of his own, with comment functionsDec 08 23:07
leahhe uses it on his blog. i've been meaning to assimilate his logic, for comments sections on news pagesDec 08 23:08
techrights-news#ProprietarySoftware " #CISA encourages users and administrators to review the SonicWall security advisory and apply the necessary firmware updates as soon as possible." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/12/08/sonicwall-releases-security-advisory-sma-100-series-appliancesDec 08 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | SonicWall Releases Security Advisory for SMA 100 Series Appliances | CISADec 08 23:08
leahhis is in bash tooDec 08 23:08
schestowitz-TRwe use a lot of bash, perlDec 08 23:08
schestowitz-TRsometimes pythonDec 08 23:08
leahi think it's funny to do everything in bashDec 08 23:09
leahbash is a memeDec 08 23:09
*DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fx43r9f9r7aj8.irc) has joined #techrightsDec 08 23:09
techrights-news"[kerchoo_22] is working on a hands-free video game controller as a final project for her engineering class and we think it’s worth sharing." https://hackaday.com/2021/12/07/assistive-tech-and-video-games/Dec 08 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assistive Tech And Video Games | HackadayDec 08 23:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, I had to drive across the county for a COVID test.Dec 08 23:10
schestowitz-TRwowDec 08 23:10
schestowitz-TRriskyDec 08 23:10
DaemonFCI went to one of those walk in places and their system required you to scan a QR code, go to a website, enter your insurance, and write down a confirmation number.Dec 08 23:10
DaemonFCBut my insurance cards don't fit the format on the page.Dec 08 23:10
DaemonFCSo the lady there told me to lie and say I was uninsured.Dec 08 23:11
leahin the UK, they send a test kit to your homeDec 08 23:11
DaemonFCI said, "I'm not doing that. This would be fraud.".Dec 08 23:11
leahthen you send it off in the mail and a week later, they tell you your resultDec 08 23:11
leahthough i think they try to be a bit fasterDec 08 23:11
DaemonFCSo she wouldn't help me, and then said loudly "I'm sorry everyone, we're waiting on ONE PERSON.".Dec 08 23:11
DaemonFCSo I chucked the pen across the room, put my insurance cards back in my wallet, left, and called their corporate office.Dec 08 23:11
DaemonFCAnd then drove to a CVS 15 miles away.Dec 08 23:12
schestowitz-TRjoyDec 08 23:12
schestowitz-TRand you drive illDec 08 23:12
schestowitz-TRnot goodDec 08 23:12
DaemonFCYeahDec 08 23:12
schestowitz-TRyou'll mget youself kiledDec 08 23:12
schestowitz-TRdriving 16 hours across the state for jabsDec 08 23:12
schestowitz-TRfor a virus that barely kills anyone in your age groupDec 08 23:12
schestowitz-TRcar accidents kill many of your ageDec 08 23:13
DaemonFCTrying to figure out if it's COVID and if I need to go find a place to get the antibody treatment before it gets worse.Dec 08 23:13
schestowitz-TRand it can be the fault of other drivers, recklessDec 08 23:13
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: you take very long car journeysDec 08 23:13
leahthere's a joke in there about driving the numbers downDec 08 23:13
leahbut it would be quite morbidDec 08 23:13
schestowitz-TRthose are of higher probablility of killing you than a covid infectionDec 08 23:13
schestowitz-TRyou are about 38Dec 08 23:13
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Well, I have a futon in the livingroom, so I sleep out here tonight in one of those zip up sleeping bags.Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz-TRand not obese, just fatty iircDec 08 23:14
DaemonFCNot obese, no, but overweight.Dec 08 23:14
DaemonFCDoctors ask if I care, I go not really.Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz-TRcommonDec 08 23:14
DaemonFCMy Uncle is in far worse shape. Cholesterol over 1,000 and has been for decades.Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz-TR"hey, if there's a food shortage I'll survice. you won't"Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz-TR*surviveDec 08 23:14
DaemonFCHe's turned 65 recently.Dec 08 23:15
schestowitz-TRoverweight can be fixed in weeksDec 08 23:15
schestowitz-TRobese is a problemDec 08 23:15
DaemonFCYeah, basically the only reason to obsess over this is because you're trying to hook up with people in the restrooms at open sores conferences.Dec 08 23:15
schestowitz-TRalso skin elasticity Dec 08 23:15
DaemonFC;)Dec 08 23:15
leahanyway, untitled would be a great fit for techrights i thinkDec 08 23:15
leahin the futureDec 08 23:15
schestowitz-TRmaybe yesDec 08 23:15
leahonce it has gemtext supportDec 08 23:15
schestowitz-TRwe craft our own for the front pageDec 08 23:16
schestowitz-TRand for some pages I use temp;late I made 20 years agoDec 08 23:16
leahthere are some limitations in how it handles news sectionsDec 08 23:16
schestowitz-TRfor netscape and such!Dec 08 23:16
leahthat ought to be addressedDec 08 23:16
DaemonFCFor the married, non-perverts, who love each other and aren't going to go running down to the divorce court over an extra 20 pounds, who gives a shit?Dec 08 23:16
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/ipfs/bulletins.htmlDec 08 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexDec 08 23:16
schestowitz[23:16] <schestowitz> e.g. http://techrights.org/ipfs/bulletins.htmlDec 08 23:17
schestowitz[23:16] <schestowitz> oopsDec 08 23:17
schestowitz[23:16] <schestowitz> wrong windowDec 08 23:17
DaemonFCschestowitz, MARISOL was wondering why we didn't have a more expensive wedding.Dec 08 23:17
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: ask her why she doesn't have a bigger mortgageDec 08 23:18
schestowitz-TRor a bigger egoDec 08 23:18
DaemonFCI said, "Well, studies have statistically shown that the likelihood of the marriage failing is associated with how much debt you racked up on day 1 pretending you're in a royal wedding ceremony.".Dec 08 23:18
schestowitz-TRor a bigger chance of being homelessDec 08 23:18
schestowitz-TRgood replytDec 08 23:18
schestowitz-TRvery good replytDec 08 23:18
schestowitz-TRdebt causes stressDec 08 23:19
schestowitz-TRstress leads to arguingDec 08 23:19
DaemonFCIt saps you of resources you need to deal with important things.Dec 08 23:19
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: "why did you not throw a bigger plate at Mark?"Dec 08 23:19
DaemonFCDay 1 of our marriage. $15,000 wedding with interest. Game over man, game over!"Dec 08 23:20
immibisMinceR: if you make everyone "a government" then google or facebook will be the super-government ruling over all the governmentsDec 08 23:20
schestowitz-TRthey are gov contractors of sortsDec 08 23:20
schestowitz-TRcheck funding sources and political backingDec 08 23:20
schestowitz-TRthey're adopted as political toolsDec 08 23:20
schestowitz-TRnot just by the USDec 08 23:20
MinceRpart of their current power comes from the governmentDec 08 23:20
schestowitz-TRsocial control media and mind controlDec 08 23:20
schestowitz-TRsearch histories etc.Dec 08 23:20
DaemonFCIn theory, the people are the source of legitimacy of the government. In fact, the politicians all think and admit in inner circles, "Let them despise us, as long as they fear and obey us!".Dec 08 23:21
schestowitzhttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/05/wikileaks-assange-facebook-is-appalling-spying-machine/238225/Dec 08 23:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | WikiLeaks' Assange: Facebook Is 'Appalling Spying Machine' - The AtlanticDec 08 23:21
DaemonFCNo politician in elected office today is worried that their actions will be seen as legitimate.Dec 08 23:21
schestowitzhttps://www.zdnet.com/article/wikileaks-founder-facebook-is-most-appalling-spying-machine-ever-invented/Dec 08 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WikiLeaks founder: Facebook is "most appalling spying machine ever invented" | ZDNetDec 08 23:21
schestowitz"WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has called Facebook "the most appalling ... US organizations have built-in interfaces for US intelligence."Dec 08 23:21
DaemonFCNobody has challenged Pritzker in a serious way, and the judges are all Democrats if they bothered.Dec 08 23:21
schestowitzhttps://www.cnet.com/home/smart-home/assange-facebook-is-an-appalling-spy-machine/Dec 08 23:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assange: Facebook is an 'appalling spy machine' - CNETDec 08 23:22
DaemonFCschestowitz, That's why I'll probably vote for Adam Kinzinger for Governor.Dec 08 23:22
DaemonFCI don't like him, I really don't agree with him.Dec 08 23:22
DaemonFCBut hopefully, it causes a food fight and they slow each other down.Dec 08 23:23
DaemonFCIt worked this year in the local election.Dec 08 23:23
DaemonFCThe Democrats now have a Republican mayor to deal with and it's derailed their tax hikes.Dec 08 23:23
schestowitz-TRnpowm back to techDec 08 23:24
DaemonFCIt was popular enough in the council to get a simple majority and go to Mayor Cunningham, but now it will face a veto.Dec 08 23:24
DaemonFCI feel like there's a lot of wasted effort just trying to put up obstacles so the bad guys don't get away with MORE.Dec 08 23:24
DaemonFCBut it sounds like MinceR doesn't even have that possibility.Dec 08 23:25
techrights-news"I first learned about #PicoVoice about a year ago when the offline voice AI engine was showcased on a Raspberry Pi fitted with ReSpeaker 4-mic array to showcase the company’s Porcupine custom wake word engine" https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/08/picovoice-offline-voice-ai-engine-gets-free-tier-for-up-to-3-users/Dec 08 23:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PicoVoice offline Voice AI engine gets free tier for up to 3 users - CNX SoftwareDec 08 23:26
DaemonFCWell, it's always a goddamned Christmas miracle when you sabotage their tax hike plan and all of a sudden there's cuts to a bunch of unimportant programs and you never notice even though the stinking bastard was trying to act like there'd be big problems. Threatening to punish you if you voted it down.Dec 08 23:26
DaemonFCI'll fire teachers, firefighters, and cops first!Dec 08 23:26
techrights-newsSimple Design Elevates This Mechanical Dot Matrix Display | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/12/07/simple-design-elevates-this-mechanical-dot-matrix-display/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/08/#latestDec 08 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Simple Design Elevates This Mechanical Dot Matrix Display | HackadayDec 08 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsDec 08 23:26
DaemonFC"Is that a fuckin' threat!?" -Bad Santa ;)Dec 08 23:27
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: you would be an awful politicianDec 08 23:27
schestowitz-TRaiwht people sleeping in sleeping bags in their homesDec 08 23:27
schestowitz-TR"go home and ZIP IT!!"Dec 08 23:27
DaemonFCFirst of all it's not Pritzker who gets to decide what the budget cuts mean to local governments.Dec 08 23:27
DaemonFCThe cuts are to a revenue stream, not one that has to be spent or not spent on a certain item.Dec 08 23:28
DaemonFCSecondly, after the taxes flopped, there's been road construction everywhere because I voted to cut them off from raiding the motor fuels tax for other things (like welfare programs).Dec 08 23:29
techrights-news"Those two bullet points hide a lot of complexity, and it’s not surprising that I didn’t get particularly far in this project! It requires coordinated changes in a lot of components: GLib, GTK, gnome-session and applications themselves." https://tecnocode.co.uk/2021/12/08/state-persistence-for-apps-and-sessions-endless-orange-week/Dec 08 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tecnocode.co.uk | State persistence for apps and sessions: Endless Orange Week | Philip WithnallDec 08 23:29
schestowitzDaemonFC: https://hackaday.com/2021/12/08/fail-of-the-week-hackaday-writer-attempts-xbox-repair/Dec 08 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fail Of The Week: Hackaday Writer Attempts XBox Repair | HackadayDec 08 23:29
DaemonFCThirdly, since nobody believes the Illinois government anymore, if they have to take it out on the state parks system, it's because nobody says "redirect my tax check as a gift to the state parks" because that's not what it gets spent on.Dec 08 23:30
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▁▁▂▂▂▂▃▂▆▂▃▁▃▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▄▅▃▂▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 8.36 ▕  IPFS upstream: ███▁▁▂▁█▁▄▁▁▁█▁▁▁▁▁█▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 163.31▕ swarm size (avg): 254.13  ⟲Dec 08 23:30
immibisMinceR: google's power does not come from the government, nor does facebook'sDec 08 23:30
techrights-news"Structure and minimalism, often based on the same core elements of black steel beams and glass, are a landmark of these buildings. One immediately senses that there is nothing left to take away." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/12/08#034_less_is_moreDec 08 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the boxDec 08 23:30
schestowitz-TRimmibis: goes unchecked by themDec 08 23:31
DaemonFCschestowitz, I loaded a fork of an old copy of Debian in an XBOX emulator.Dec 08 23:31
schestowitz-TRand they COLLABORATE a lotDec 08 23:31
immibiswell if they checked it, that would be big government, which MinceR seems to hate, seeing as he wants the opposite, zero governmentDec 08 23:31
DaemonFCIt's compatible enough to run that and about 80-ish percent of games with decent results.Dec 08 23:31
schestowitzhttps://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/Dec 08 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | Julian Assange - Google Is Not What It SeemsDec 08 23:31
DaemonFCMr. Drone Strike said he was trying to create "reforms from within".Dec 08 23:31
schestowitz-TRthunberg joined exxonDec 08 23:32
schestowitz-TRshe will fix Exxon Mobil from withinDec 08 23:32
MinceRimmibis: google and facebook is given a lot of freedom from the government's oversight in exchange for spying on people -- that's why anticompetition laws aren't enforced against them. but if you were to start your own business that tried to compete with them and did not make a pact with a government, you would face the full force of those lawsDec 08 23:32
activelownext one discussed is this: "central registration of vaccination status" together with "mandatory vaccination"Dec 08 23:33
immibisMinceR: surely if you think there should be no government, then you think anticompetition laws are a bad thing and shouldn't be enforced ever?Dec 08 23:33
schestowitz-TRMinceR: Microsoft alsoDec 08 23:33
schestowitz-TRadded back doors Dec 08 23:33
schestowitz-TRand spies shitlessDec 08 23:33
MinceRimmibis: facebook and cambridge analytica could have a significant effect on people's lives in the USA because there was a state that held elections which they could manipulateDec 08 23:33
immibisactivelow: let's please do that. finally force the neo-fascists to give up and end the damn pandemic alreadyDec 08 23:33
schestowitz-TRand so the case against Microsoft crimes got scuttledDec 08 23:33
MinceRimmibis: i think there should be no government, no megacorporations and no churches, or anything else that would try to be a government in another guiseDec 08 23:33
immibiswe tried anarchy already. we know what happens. we know that a top-down power hierarchy forms and this one won't be democraticDec 08 23:34
schestowitz-TRso same as now?Dec 08 23:34
MinceRwho are "you" and where have you tried it?Dec 08 23:34
MinceRalso, where is that democratic arrangement that is your alternative to it?Dec 08 23:34
MinceRwhere is a properly functioning democracy?Dec 08 23:35
schestowitz-TRtextbookDec 08 23:35
schestowitz-TRlike capitalismDec 08 23:35
schestowitz-TRthose are like religionsDec 08 23:35
schestowitz-TRin practice, it's more like Taliban or ISISDec 08 23:35
psydroid2let's all become friends on TextbookDec 08 23:35
MinceRlolDec 08 23:35
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: we'll "like" each others' thingsDec 08 23:36
schestowitz-TRso we'll all loomkl popularDec 08 23:36
schestowitz-TRour classmates from when we were 7 will so so enviousDec 08 23:36
activelowimmibis: pardon? the overwhelming majority of protests is not fascist. it is government and their fake news apparatus who spread incitement to hatred 24/7Dec 08 23:37
activelowand this is where it should begin, live on TV: them receiving their jabs of the "recommended" "booster" "cross-vaccination" "insufficient data" was available forDec 08 23:38
activelowthe new Chancellor, Olaf Scholz, will be first. I recommend RTL television prime time.Dec 08 23:39
schestowitz-TRisn't that lux?Dec 08 23:40
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/21120421Dec 08 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6056173)Dec 08 23:41
techrights-news#GNOME and GTK Development • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158896 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesDec 08 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK Development | Tux MachinesDec 08 23:41
XRevan86MinceR: Meanwhile in Ivanka's head: "water goes splash"Dec 08 23:42
activelowschestowitz-TR: yes, RTL is headquartered in luxembourg, and broadcast in AT, CH, DE; so entire german-speaking people can enjoy this show.Dec 08 23:43
immibisactivelow: i see you are brainwashed by neo-fascistsDec 08 23:43
schestowitzhttps://www.bustle.com/p/ivanka-trump-wins-the-internet-freedoma-award-a-year-after-net-neutrality-officially-ended-17919036Dec 08 23:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bustle.com | Ivanka Trump Wins The Internet Freedom Award A Year After Net Neutrality Officially EndedDec 08 23:43
immibisMinceR: many developed countries (the USA is not developed)Dec 08 23:44
schestowitzhttps://mashable.com/article/ivanka-trump-internet-freedom-awardDec 08 23:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashable.com | Tech lobbying group gives Ivanka Trump 'Internet Freedom Award'Dec 08 23:44
schestowitzimmibis: you are conflating two separate thingsDec 08 23:45
schestowitzmaybe the one misled is also youDec 08 23:45
schestowitzpeople who reject those shots are often well educatedDec 08 23:45
MinceRimmibis: for example?Dec 08 23:45
schestowitzlike half the population of switzerlandDec 08 23:45
schestowitznot "neo-fascists"Dec 08 23:45
immibisanybody who thinks that extending the pandemic for any longer than it already has been extended is a good idea is a moronDec 08 23:45
schestowitzyou are again conflating two thingsDec 08 23:45
schestowitzjabs and ending the pandemicDec 08 23:45
MinceRwho said the pandemic should be extended for longer?Dec 08 23:45
immibisthe antivax groupDec 08 23:46
schestowitzthe coronavirus was always with usDec 08 23:46
schestowitznew strains are worseDec 08 23:46
schestowitzand they are here to stayDec 08 23:46
immibiswhat do you mean "the" coronavirus?Dec 08 23:46
schestowitzRMS thinks it can be eradicateedDec 08 23:46
schestowitzbecause he reads bill's gguardianDec 08 23:46
schestowitzthe jabs help old people fight it offDec 08 23:46
schestowitzas dot he flu shotsDec 08 23:46
schestowitzbut giving it to kids is pointlessDec 08 23:46
schestowitzit helps profits of the patent holdersDec 08 23:46
immibisall vaccines reduce infection and transmission. no vaccines prevent infection and transmissionDec 08 23:46
schestowitzand not much moreDec 08 23:46
immibiswe managed to beat polio using vaccines about as good as covid vaccinesDec 08 23:47
schestowitzno, Dec 08 23:47
schestowitzpolio vaccine works betterDec 08 23:47
schestowitzand we take it onceDec 08 23:47
schestowitzwhile youngDec 08 23:47
immibispolio vaccine is administered 4 timesDec 08 23:47
immibishttps://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/public/index.htmlDec 08 23:47
-altlink_4a9/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cdc.gov | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/public/index.htmlDec 08 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cdc.gov | Polio Vaccination: What Everyone Should Know | CDCDec 08 23:47
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccineDec 08 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Polio vaccine - WikipediaDec 08 23:48
immibisall virus vaccines in humans require approximately 4 doses to achieve proper immunityDec 08 23:48
activelowa moment ago they said a few dozen elderies died in geriatric care home, supposedly because they had not received their jabsDec 08 23:48
schestowitz" Another attenuated live oral polio vaccine was developed by Albert Sabin and came into commercial use in 1961"Dec 08 23:48
activelowimmibis: who is neo-fascist? government TV spreading this type of news?Dec 08 23:48
MinceRneofascists governments do spread propaganda against measures against SARS-CoV-2Dec 08 23:49
MinceRhungarian government does it internally and externallyDec 08 23:49
immibisactivelow: those who attempt to prolong the pandemic because of dumb political ideology. Such as (it appears) yourselfDec 08 23:49
MinceRrussian government does it on the non-russian editions of RTDec 08 23:49
MinceRbut not internallyDec 08 23:49
immibisprevious american government did it a lot and probably seeded the movement worldwideDec 08 23:49
immibisthat leader didn't even do it on purpose. he didn't want to extend a pandemic, he just didn't want to look incompetent, which he would have if he'd tried to do something about itDec 08 23:51
immibisby pretending it's not a real threat, doing nothing is a not-incompetent solutionDec 08 23:51
activelowa miracle tincture vaccine cannot prevent excess hospitalization, in particular "cross vaccination" "insufficient data" for verification was available for, according to "vaccination commission"Dec 08 23:52
schestowitz-TRmass vaccination for polio was a decade after salk made itDec 08 23:52
schestowitz-TRit was not patented eitherDec 08 23:54
schestowitz-TRso it did not cost 50 times the production cost.. to enrich oligarchsDec 08 23:54
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine#/media/File:Salk_headlines.jpgDec 08 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Polio vaccine - WikipediaDec 08 23:54
MinceRs/sts/st/Dec 08 23:54
schestowitz"he undertook a project to determine the number of different types of poliovirus, starting in 1948. [...] By 1959, the Salk vaccine had reached about 90 countries"Dec 08 23:55
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_SalkDec 08 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jonas Salk - WikipediaDec 08 23:55
immibisactivelow: you are right. We should never do anything if there are not 5 years of data on its efficacy. If you must forgive me I have to reinstall Windows on my computer because it has never been proven in a court of law that uninstalling Windows increases software freedom.Dec 08 23:55
schestowitzthere were trials and errors along the wayDec 08 23:55
schestowitznot administring that to billions of people including those not at riskDec 08 23:56
schestowitzwe have bigger issues than covid-19Dec 08 23:56
activelowdo exactly what? the testing procedures here didn't at least include measurement of fever, which otherwise is common medical routine to check immune response to infectionsDec 08 23:56
schestowitzlike overpopulation and overindustrialisation that strains the planetDec 08 23:56
schestowitzwe can start to tackle bothDec 08 23:56
schestowitzmore lockdowns, more work from homeDec 08 23:56
schestowitzit has proben more effectiveDec 08 23:57
schestowitz2020 had a lot fewer covid-10 deaths here than this yearDec 08 23:57
schestowitz*19Dec 08 23:57
schestowitzbecause of lockdowns partlyDec 08 23:57
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/health/Dec 08 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » HealthDec 08 23:57
schestowitztime to tackle the major issueDec 08 23:57
schestowitznot only what patent-connected media tells usDec 08 23:58
immibisschestowitz: I guess back in those days they were accustomed to people dying from preventable disease, and not so accustomed to vaccines.Dec 08 23:58
schestowitzowned by the world's biggest pollutersDec 08 23:58
schestowitzimmibis: noDec 08 23:58
schestowitzvaccines still take a long time to developDec 08 23:58
schestowitzthey have 4 phasesDec 08 23:58
schestowitzwe jumped through 2 or 3Dec 08 23:58
schestowitzand we're not solving itDec 08 23:58
activelowthe corona vaccination did NOT decrease excess hospitalzation, although 70% received their tincture as promisedDec 08 23:58
schestowitzpeople move back to lockdownsDec 08 23:58
schestowitzeven where vaccinatino rates for covid-* and derivatives are very highDec 08 23:59
activelowthen it wasn't enough, and required boosters, excess hospitalization remainsDec 08 23:59
schestowitzactivelow: it did reduce it hereDec 08 23:59
schestowitzbut not by very muchDec 08 23:59
schestowitzvery disapopointing efficacyDec 08 23:59
schestowitzfalsely advertised as 95% or thereaboutsDec 08 23:59

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