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XRevan86 12 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Dylan Van Assche | PinePhone modem mythsSep 12 00:35
DaemonFCSales Taxes in Illinois have gone up on average again, due to local hikes.Sep 12 00:50
DaemonFCOne of the high schools in Gurnee was sending me pleas to vote for a tax hike, even though I didn't live in their school district.Sep 12 00:50
DaemonFCI wonder how much the printing and postage to send requests for tax hikes to people who can't even decide on the tax hike came out to.Sep 12 00:51
DaemonFC 12 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sheer chaos: Suburban high school dealing with student fights, packed classrooms, bus shortageSep 12 01:08
DaemonFC"Just recently the board approved for us to higher a private security force, and so we trained them this week and then on Monday we should be fully staffed with our security force, which we think is going to really help to quell some of the anxiety in the building," said Dr. Johnnie Thomas, District 227 Superintendent.Sep 12 01:08
DaemonFCNice, the school superintendent spelled "hire" wrong.Sep 12 01:09
DaemonFCThe school to prison pipeline is sort of up and running again though.,Sep 12 01:09
DaemonFCSo that's nice.Sep 12 01:09
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techrights-newsMore #linux #bloat for Pentagon companies #rustlang #deletegithubSep 12 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Latest Progress On Rust For The Linux Kernel - PhoronixSep 12 01:21
techrights-news"You get what you pay for. Obviously these employees can’t get a better paying job. So sad - #IBM used to only hire the best and brightest." 12 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM is hiring, please apply... - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 12 01:22
techrights-news"I bet #IBM will somehow lose even in this race to the bottom. Ever downward!" 12 01:22
techrights-news"Since the vaccine has not yet been approved for children — because it hasn't been tested for them — we need to protect them by requiring masks in school." 12 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard StallmanSep 12 01:23
techrights-news"I argue that they are not entitled to the term "libertarians", because their principal goal is to eliminate taxes and have a laissez-faire, laissez mourir economy. The right term for them is "antisocialist"." 12 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard StallmanSep 12 01:23
techrights-news"Actually there are a lot of great people still working for IBM. It's just that almost none of them are anything higher than a director." #ibmSep 12 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM accused of stealing trade secrets from Chinese jo--t venture - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 12 01:23
techrights-newsBest #MicrosoftOffice Alternatives For GNU/Linux : Free Linux Office Suite • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Best MS Office Alternatives For Linux : Free Linux Office Suite | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:24
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techrights-news#GNOME 41 Has Finally Arrived: A Look at What’s Changed #gnu #linuxSep 12 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GNOME 41 Release Candidate Is Out with Last Minute Bug Fixes and Improvements | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:29
techrights-news#KDE Frameworks 5.86.0 12 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KDE Frameworks 5.86 Improves Plasma Wayland for NVIDIA GPUs, Adds over 200 Changes | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:29
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:37
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:37
techrights-newsGNU #Bison 3.8.1 released • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #freesw #TuxMachinesSep 12 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bison 3.8.1 released | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:38
techrights-news#Steam Top 50 #Games : 72% Work on Linux in Sept. 2021 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Steam Top 50 Games: 72% Work on Linux in Sept. 2021 | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:39
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techrights-newsWindows Supports My Hardware, Linux Does NOT! - Invidious ⚓ ䷉ #videoSep 12 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Windows Supports My Hardware, Linux Does NOT! - InvidiousSep 12 01:43
techrights-news#LatteDock v0.10.2 | Bug Fix Release • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDESep 12 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Latte Dock v0.10.2 | Bug Fix Release | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:44
techrights-newsIntroducing the #BoilingSteam Wiki #games #gnu #linuxSep 12 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Introducing the Boiling Steam Wiki - Boiling SteamSep 12 01:46
techrights-news"The vast majority of hunter-gatherers disappeared a long time ago, but a few groups remain in isolated sections of Africa, Australia, the Amazon rainforest and the Arctic." 12 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Why Do We Work So Damn Much?Sep 12 01:47
techrights-news"Jon (scsijon in the Puppy Forum) is helping me to get Chrome and Chromium working non-root. This has resulted in me making a discovery yesterday, about the Xarchive archiver and extraction GUI tool." 12 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Xarchive now extracts DEBIAN control folderSep 12 01:47
techrights-news#Apple still chooses not to support the industry-standard lossless audio format, even though they support it. 12 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apple still chooses not to support the industry-standard lossless audio format, even though they support it. – BaronHK's RantsSep 12 01:49
techrights-newsDoes malware become news only the moment you can throw the word "Linux" into a headline, irrespective of what the underlying issue and how a machine is taken over by the first place? 12 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pysa Ransomware Gang Debuts Linux Support - BankInfoSecuritySep 12 01:52
techrights-newsThe #LinuxGamer Playing guitar for you: "Fog" - Invidious ⚓ ䷉ #video #invidiousSep 12 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Playing guitar for you: "Fog" - InvidiousSep 12 01:54
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techrights-newsThis YouTuber made his own battery spot welder from an old microwave using Arduino | Arduino Blog ⚓ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in 12 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This YouTuber made his own battery spot welder from an old microwave using Arduino | Arduino BlogSep 12 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsSep 12 01:56
techrights-newsHere’s Why #Firefox is Seeing a Continuous Decline for Last 12 Years • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 12 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Here’s Why Firefox is Seeing a Continuous Decline for Last 12 Years | Tux MachinesSep 12 01:57
techrights-newsStart #Gaming On #GNU #Linux With This One Command - Invidious ⚓ ䷉ #video #invidiousSep 12 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Start Gaming On Linux With This One Command - InvidiousSep 12 01:58
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techrights-news" #OpenBoxes is a management system designed to manage inventory and keep you on track with all the setting on it. It happens to be one of my top recommendations for the list of free and open-source Inventory and Warehouse Management" 12 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OpenBoxes: Open Source Project For Inventory managementSep 12 02:02
techrights-newsShiny new things in #Thunar thanks to GSoC 2021 #deletegithub #ProprietarySoftware 12 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Shiny new things in Thunar thanks to GSoC 2021Sep 12 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Delete Github - TechrightsSep 12 02:07
techrights-news#KeePass 2.49 Released! #HowTo Install in Ubuntu 20.04 / 18.04 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KeePass 2.49 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 20.04 / 18.04 | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:10
techrights-newsTag filtering, better navigation and lots of little UI tweaks — #Kalendar devlog 14 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tag filtering, better navigation and lots of little UI tweaks — Kalendar devlog 14 | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:11
techrights-news"A couple of cute mini robots have graced the blog over the last couple of weeks. One mastered dropping a straw in a glass, and the other did a brilliant Mars rover impression." 12 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Raspberry Pi Weekly Issue #370 - Mini robots taking overSep 12 02:11
techrights-newsAnother Batch Of #RadeonSI Optimizations Land In Mesa 21.3 - Phoronix ⚓ ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in 12 02:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Batch Of RadeonSI Optimizations Land In Mesa 21.3 - PhoronixSep 12 02:12
techrights-news#CoreCtrl 1.2 Brings Support For More Sensors, Voltage Offsets - Phoronix ⚓ ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in 12 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CoreCtrl 1.2 Brings Support For More Sensors, Voltage Offsets - PhoronixSep 12 02:13
techrights-newsAlder Lake Support Added To Intel's TCC Driver In Linux 5.15 - Phoronix ⚓ ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxSep 12 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alder Lake Support Added To Intel's TCC Driver In Linux 5.15 - PhoronixSep 12 02:13
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techrights-news[Book] #RedHat Enterprise Linux 8 Administration · Pablo Iranzo Gómez’s blog ⚓ ䷉ #iranzo #gnu #linux #ibmSep 12 02:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Book] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 Administration · Pablo Iranzo Gómez's blogSep 12 02:14
techrights-newsPlay with model trains in #OpenTTD | ⚓ ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #GNU #Linux | more in 12 02:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Play with model trains in OpenTTD | Opensource.comSep 12 02:14
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techrights-news#Facebook Is Censoring People For Mentioning #freesw Social Network #Mastodon #censorshipSep 12 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Facebook Is Censoring People For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon | The ChangelogSep 12 02:15
techrights-newsLinks 11/9/2021: KeePass 2.49, Bison 3.8.1, Latte Dock 0.10.2 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 12 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 11/9/2021: KeePass 2.49, Bison 3.8.1, Latte Dock 0.10.2 | TechrightsSep 12 02:30
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 12 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:32
techrights-news#FreeSoftware : Facebook Censoring Mastodon, OpenTTD Introduced, and OpenBoxes Explained • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 12 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Free Software: Facebook Censoring Mastodon, OpenTTD Introduced, and OpenBoxes Explained | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:32
techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: Robots, Faceplates, and Arduino • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 12 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open Hardware/Modding: Robots, Faceplates, and Arduino | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:33
techrights-news#IBM / #RedHat Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:33
techrights-newsLinux/Kernel: Intel, Rust, and AMD • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 12 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux/Kernel: Intel, Rust, and AMD | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:33
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 12 02:34
techrights-news*** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂   𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: TEXT: Read the log now...Sep 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021Sep 12 02:37
techrights-newsI've just realised that in 11 years in our company I never, not even once, took a day off work for sickness. So far no #covid19 but it's easy for introverts who work from home and live with the same...Sep 12 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021Sep 12 02:39
techrights-news"inflation has worn down the value of our money so badly that you have to stand there feeding the meter all day to get any time out of it." 12 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021Sep 12 02:39
techrights-news*** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂   𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: TEXT: Read the log now...Sep 12 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021Sep 12 02:40
DaemonFC 12 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apple declares victory in the Epic vs. Apple unfair competition lawsuit and then appeals the ruling. – BaronHK's RantsSep 12 02:40
techrights-news*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. 12 02:41
techrights-news"a pentium 150 was sufficient for software-rendering on CPU only(!), quake1 at 512x384" 12 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021Sep 12 02:42
techrights-newsSites about #patents that reject/refuse/hang up on inventors because they front for lawyers (litigation), not science 12 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021Sep 12 02:42
techrights-news"Ah so, that's where IBM gets its cloud strategy from." 12 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM accused of stealing trade secrets from Chinese jo--t venture - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 12 02:45
DaemonFCschestowitz, The ads in Youtube have become so unacceptable that I won't even watch Youtube in their official app.Sep 12 02:45
DaemonFCNewPipe doesn't always work, but you can view videos with the ads stripped out in Fennec F-Droid.Sep 12 02:45
DaemonFCGoogle should be sued over this. They demonetize people's channels, stuff them full of Google's ads that take up more time than the video maybe, and then keep all of the money.Sep 12 02:46
XRevan86DaemonFC: Install NewPipe from their official repository for F-Droid.Sep 12 02:46
DaemonFCOh, I do.Sep 12 02:46
techrights-newsMoaning about #ibm paying below standards. Update 2 hours ago. 12 02:46
XRevan86 thatSep 12 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM is hiring, please apply... - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 12 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Add the NewPipe repository to F-DroidSep 12 02:46
DaemonFCPeople should just stop giving new "content" to Youtube.Sep 12 02:47
DaemonFCTake it to another site where they can earn a bit of money and not snow their users under an avalanche of ads that don't even benefit them.Sep 12 02:47
techrights-newsRetail Services at #IBM fired? 12 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | I just heard that Hank Mardukas was RA’d last week - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 12 02:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: I agreeSep 12 02:48
schestowitzthis is why I wrote programs to change URLsSep 12 02:48
schestowitzI try never to link to Twitter or YouTubeSep 12 02:48
schestowitzthey don't work WITHOUT JSSep 12 02:49
schestowitzthey put nasty adsSep 12 02:49
schestowitzamong other reasonSep 12 02:49
schestowitz*reasonsSep 12 02:49
schestowitzwe still need a site which does to shithub what nitter does to TwitterSep 12 02:49
schestowitz[02:47] <DaemonFC> Take it to another site where they can earn a bit of money and not snow their users under an avalanche of ads that don't even benefit them.Sep 12 02:49
schestowitzthose ads are mandatory and don't pay "creators"Sep 12 02:50
schestowitzmany left over thisSep 12 02:50
schestowitzit's just Alphabet trying to squeeze money out of a (IIRC) loss leaderSep 12 02:50
schestowitzthey also shrank the share of ad revenueSep 12 02:50
schestowitzthey mess around with visibility of channels and videosSep 12 02:50
schestowitzand the list goes on and on... I wrote about it as recently as last nightSep 12 02:51
schestowitzin the form of article+video, days ago: 12 02:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Techrights is Self-Hosted and Recent Events Show That Self-Hosting Pays Off | TechrightsSep 12 02:51
schestowitzthey banned "THE LINUX EXPERIMENT"Sep 12 02:51
schestowitzand it's aid that Google hates GNU/LinuxSep 12 02:52
schestowitzunlike ChromeOS/browserSep 12 02:52
schestowitzso they screw/hide/demonetise channels that do "LINUX"Sep 12 02:52
DaemonFC 12 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Migrating to Ubuntu LTS: six facts for CentOS users | UbuntuSep 12 02:54
DaemonFC"This is why Ubuntu is by far the most popular Linux distribution, followed by a distant no.2 –  CentOS chosen by 11% of working professionals."Sep 12 02:54
DaemonFCThe Ubuntu "community" seemed to have turned into a ghost town last time I looked.Sep 12 02:55
XRevan86DaemonFC: This article is complete trash.Sep 12 02:55
schestowitz-TRI saw thatSep 12 02:56
schestowitz-TRwell, canonical is a bit trashSep 12 02:56
XRevan86And it's…Sep 12 02:56
schestowitz-TRthey also lost a lot of important workers latelySep 12 02:56
schestowitz-TRI could name them, but need to look up the names a little...Sep 12 02:56
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: yes, fedora and ubuntu communities are deadSep 12 02:57
XRevan86schestowitz: Is it time to shut down the bridge? The other side is used by no one.Sep 12 02:57
schestowitz-TRto see where the gnu/linux community moved, check out arch, gentoo etc.Sep 12 02:57
schestowitz-TRwe're still around, there are many millions of usSep 12 02:57
schestowitz-TRbut we are now "slaves" of IBM and CanonicalSep 12 02:57
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: not yet?Sep 12 02:58
schestowitz-TRmaybe they read through it...Sep 12 02:58
XRevan86schestowitz: Who are they?Sep 12 02:58
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I was thinking about Mozilla as a thrall of Google.Sep 12 02:58
DaemonFCAntitrust insurance.Sep 12 02:58
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: I don't know, but some people are in the channel/sSep 12 02:58
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: that's the purpose of it nowSep 12 02:58
DaemonFCGoogle would never pay almost $650 million every few years just to be the default search on a browser that less than 4% use.Sep 12 02:58
schestowitz-TRthey openly shielded Google from USDOJSep 12 02:59
schestowitz-TRdefending a competitor that it also the palm which feeds themSep 12 02:59
schestowitz-TRI guess google is happy with mozilla leadership putting people offSep 12 02:59
DaemonFCThis is all like a flashback to Microsoft bailing out Apple in 1997.Sep 12 03:00
DaemonFCApple put out trash computers that only a few people even used, and they almost filed for bankruptcy.Sep 12 03:00
schestowitz-TRgood analogySep 12 03:00
XRevan86schestowitz: I guess we should ask MinceR or СrystalMath, but odds are it's abandoned.Sep 12 03:00
DaemonFCNo other search engine could or would pay Mozilla what Google does.Sep 12 03:00
DaemonFCThey'd be lucky to get $30-40 million per 5 years from Microsoft if they made Bing the default.Sep 12 03:01
DaemonFCAnd that's assuming Firefox loses no more users than they have.Sep 12 03:01
DaemonFCSo the development collapses entirely without Google.Sep 12 03:01
DaemonFCMicrosoft just doesn't need them that badly, because they're inching closer to making it impossible or too frustrating to get away from Edge if you use Windows.Sep 12 03:02
DaemonFCThey have the home field advantage of abusing the OS to make people give up and use Edge, and there they don't have to pay themselves anything to be the search engine.Sep 12 03:03
DaemonFCVivaldi never replied to me when they complained of Microsoft doing this, and then I asked when they would stop using Microsoft's search engine.Sep 12 03:03
DaemonFCIf Microsoft is costing them users, it's also costing them marketshare that could be used to negotiate for more royalties.Sep 12 03:04
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: if it's dead, then it's deadaSep 12 03:04
schestowitz-TRI just don't know how to checkSep 12 03:04
schestowitz-TRlightbringer can see itSep 12 03:04
schestowitz-TRlast he reported to me, it was around 10 usersSep 12 03:05
techrights-newsI've just done more parallelisation in the video pipeline of #techrights which is mostly #ffmpeg with bash and #rsyncSep 12 03:06
DaemonFCBeing located in California, especially the bay area, is a luxury they couldn't afford.Sep 12 03:08
DaemonFCThey ditched the bay area office space, which they clutched onto and didn't want to let go for far longer than they should have kept it.Sep 12 03:09
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, NPR actually published a good article the other day.Sep 12 03:09
DaemonFCIt was about the shockingly poor planning that Apple, Google, and Facebook did when building their campuses.Sep 12 03:10
DaemonFCThey poured all of this money into them and in 30 or 40 years, the area will probably literally be under a few feet of water.Sep 12 03:10
DaemonFCCorporations don't even plan decades ahead into their own futures, yet they make all of the important decisions and control the government from behind the scenes, which is truly horrifying.Sep 12 03:11
activelowscarySep 12 03:11
kingoffrance^^^ good reason why "efficiency" is a chimeraSep 12 03:12
activelowglobal economy relies on software which is ruinedSep 12 03:12
kingoffrancetheres always a time component: efficient for how longSep 12 03:12
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activelowtechically bancrupt, unmaintainable long-termSep 12 03:12
activelowtechnicallySep 12 03:13
MinceRthere are 8 nicks on the other side of the bridge, including ChanServ, tr-bridge and myselfSep 12 03:13
DaemonFCWindows is "maintainable" in the sense that if we want all progress to stop, Microsoft can continue to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.Sep 12 03:13
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DaemonFCBut even updates that don't do anything important always seem to break something, usually seemingly unrelated.Sep 12 03:14
activelowoften minor details, which sums up to total cost, and time wastedSep 12 03:14
MinceRin addition to that, there are 2 more users who seem to be also present on this side of the bridge, though i can't tell for sureSep 12 03:14
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I was delighted with LAME back in the 90s, and with MP3 in general.Sep 12 03:14
activelowargument is this: it will be impossible to reconstruct hardware and software from scratch, with available documentation, schematics and sourcesSep 12 03:15
DaemonFCWithout what it did, there would have been no digital music at all.Sep 12 03:15
MinceRwhich leaves 3 nicks belonging to users who appear to be using the channel only from the freenode sideSep 12 03:15
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: we have hardly advanced since then (90s)Sep 12 03:15
schestowitz-TRme in 90s: winampSep 12 03:15
schestowitz-TRme at this very moment: audaciousSep 12 03:15
MinceRit really whips the llama's ass!Sep 12 03:15
schestowitz-TRpartly developed by Ariadne BTWSep 12 03:15
schestowitz-TRand still using mp3 files, with patents expiredSep 12 03:15
DaemonFCIt was impossible to store too many WAVE files on a PC at that point and is still a burden today. FLAC wouldn't even exist to cut that space requirement in half for a few more years.Sep 12 03:16
DaemonFCBut NPR says no patents mean MP3 is bad.Sep 12 03:16
XRevan86MinceR: Have they shown any kind of activity? Who are they?Sep 12 03:16
DaemonFCYou wouldn't go against that logic?Sep 12 03:16
DaemonFCIt's patented so you can't use it. There's no patents so you can't use it!Sep 12 03:17
XRevan86Opus: no patents, very good.Sep 12 03:17
techrights-ipfs-botQmUPLCS39mA6XaZmdzwh1WbF8ry8hiVAzuaf4P9A1AmKbdSep 12 03:17
DaemonFCThere are Opus patents.Sep 12 03:17
DaemonFCMicrosoft even has some.Sep 12 03:17
XRevan86Sep 12 03:17
MinceRXRevan86: i don't know who they are and i don't see any activity from them since my vps was rebootedSep 12 03:18
DaemonFCTechnically, you could avoid Microsoft's patents by not implementing the SILK layer at all, but then you'd violate's, Cisco's, and Mozilla's.Sep 12 03:18
DaemonFCThe patent license says you only get a license if your implementation conforms to the IETF standard.Sep 12 03:19
DaemonFCThe IETF standard does not make SILK optional.Sep 12 03:19
techrights-newsNo, what actually happened was, two barely-significant #patent offices got successfully rick-rolled by a British provocateur 12 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Robots are taking over the patent world – AI systems or devices can be "inventors" under the Australian Patents Act - Kluwer Patent BlogSep 12 03:19
MinceRalso, what i've written doesn't take into account people who weren't present at the time, only earlierSep 12 03:20
techrights-newsFOSS Patents: No, the Epic v. #Apple injunction absolutely positively DOESN'T allow developers to incorporate 'buttons' for alternative IN-APP payment mechanisms ⚓ ䷉ #fosspatentsSep 12 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | FOSS Patents: No, the Epic v. Apple injunction absolutely positively DOESN'T allow developers to incorporate 'buttons' for alternative IN-APP payment mechanismsSep 12 03:20
DaemonFCCELT isn't bad for voice, in fact, CELT was originally going to be _the_ general purpose audio codec to replace Speex and Vorbis.Sep 12 03:20
MinceRpatent licenses that constrain how you're allowed to change the code are nastySep 12 03:20
DaemonFCVoice in CELT at 32 kbps sounds better, to me, than voice in MP3 at 128 kbps.Sep 12 03:21
techrights-newsLatest #Ubuntu 21.10 blows the wind out of Windows 10 / 11 in certain performance tests • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 03:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Latest Ubuntu 21.10 blows the wind out of Windows 10 / 11 in certain performance tests | Tux MachinesSep 12 03:21
techrights-news#watchtroll says, "Report: Almost One-Third of IPR Proceedings are Settled" and that just means that there are so many #fakepatents granted by #uspto that with #ptab all you need to do is show willingness to challenge themSep 12 03:22
techrights-newsMany false headlines falsely asserted that it is now possible to get #patents for bots; but only in two rather small markets, and that too is subjected to appeals or further challenges 12 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 4th Cir.: AI Machine Cannot Qualify as Inventor Under Patent ActSep 12 03:24
XRevan86MinceR: Still sounds like the bridge is of use to no one.Sep 12 03:25
DaemonFCI really wish people would stop using MP3 for speech.Sep 12 03:25
schestowitzfreenode is of use to almost nobodySep 12 03:25
DaemonFCIt takes up a TON of space for an audio book.Sep 12 03:26
schestowitzXRevan86: unless the "millions" comeSep 12 03:26
schestowitzto get "coins" from the "king"Sep 12 03:26
DaemonFC 12 03:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | New quarantine exemptions in place starting 9/7 | Marion School DistrictSep 12 03:27
DaemonFCYou can only kind of guess at whether you were a close contact with a person infected with COVID.Sep 12 03:27
DaemonFCWhen 150,000-200,000 people per day in the country are confirmed cases, I mean.Sep 12 03:28
DaemonFCWhen the US military said they wouldn't allow anyone to sign up if they had previously had COVID, last year, I laughed and said "Good luck with that. At this rate, very few people won't have had it in about 3 or 4 years.".Sep 12 03:28
MinceRXRevan86: could be, but it's not that easy to find out definitivelySep 12 03:29
MinceRi can't just look at the nicklist and say "oh, these people don't matter"Sep 12 03:29
schestowitzin LC there are 26 usersSep 12 03:30
schestowitzsome of them are also here alreadySep 12 03:30
DaemonFCThat's just the facts when you're dealing with a nasty little virus that's as infectious as all get out, and 25% of the population won't get their vaccine and flood the hospitals and cause heart attack, stroke, gunshot, and car crash victims to die instead.Sep 12 03:30
schestowitzanyway, those are "foreign" networksSep 12 03:30
DaemonFCHoward Stern said exactly the same thing I said to mom and mom wasn't happy when I said it, then I read that Stern said it on his radio show a few hours later.Sep 12 03:31
schestowitzseems safe to see we've consolidated here and in LC sometimes a week goes by without activitySep 12 03:31
DaemonFCI said, "Maybe the hospitals should turn away all the unvaccinated COVID cases and take in the people who are there because shit happens.Sep 12 03:31
DaemonFCSeems fair to me.Sep 12 03:31
schestowitzsome people cannot be vaccinatedSep 12 03:31
schestowitzfor health reasonsSep 12 03:31
DaemonFCHoward Stern is finished with these people. Howard Stern says he wants to go out and do things again.Sep 12 03:32
DaemonFCI agree!Sep 12 03:32
schestowitzit interferes with existing issuesSep 12 03:32
DaemonFCHe's had a lot of very good observations over the years.Sep 12 03:32
DaemonFCIncluding "Windows 95 is crap and I use OS/2.".Sep 12 03:32
DaemonFCI mean, technically speaking, for 1995, he was right.Sep 12 03:32
schestowitzDaemonFC: thing like what,SHOPPING?Sep 12 03:32
DaemonFCBut the majority went with what came on the computer and so Windows 95 software was all there really was.Sep 12 03:32
schestowitzHe can comfortably work without getting close to peopleSep 12 03:32
DaemonFCYeah, he's in a studio room all day on a talk radio show.Sep 12 03:33
XRevan86schestowitz: Question is, what justifies the bridge's existence now? What's it for?Sep 12 03:33
DaemonFCI never really understood how there were highly paid talk radio people.Sep 12 03:33
techrights-news"In fact, one of Richard Stallman’s complaints about the iPhone is that it does pretty much every nasty thing to attack the user that Android does, but it also goes much further and prevents the user from installing Free and Open Source Software." 12 03:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apple declares victory in the Epic vs. Apple unfair competition lawsuit and then appeals the ruling. – BaronHK's RantsSep 12 03:33
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techrights-newsThis Week in Linux 167: NVIDIA for Wayland, Steam Update, Red Hat, PS4 Emulator, #OpenShot #gnu #linuxSep 12 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-167: NVIDIA for Wayland, Steam Update, Red Hat, PS4 Emulator, OpenShot | This Week in Linux - TuxDigitalSep 12 03:34
schestowitzXRevan86: I reckon that network might shut down in a matter of monthsSep 12 03:35
schestowitzso the bot can go down with itSep 12 03:35
DaemonFCschestowitz, Mandy uses a lot of apps from F-Droid on his tablet.Sep 12 03:35
schestowitzthink of it like sitting next to a patient in a terminal conditionbSep 12 03:36
schestowitzit won't help survivalSep 12 03:36
schestowitzbut you stay thereSep 12 03:36
DaemonFCHe doesn't really get the idea of FOSS, but he uses them because the proprietary alternative is such a pain in the ass.Sep 12 03:36
DaemonFCHe likes watching Youtube but he doesn't like their ads.Sep 12 03:36
schestowitzDaemonFC: tablets are less malicious than phonesSep 12 03:36
DaemonFCAnd he wants to download some of the videos for later where he might not have data.Sep 12 03:36
XRevan86schestowitz: It might as well run indefinitely just as a personal Andrew Lee's community.Sep 12 03:36
schestowitzsome of them cannot report locationSep 12 03:36
schestowitzXRevan86: it's expensive for that...Sep 12 03:37
schestowitzand PIA is going downhillSep 12 03:37
schestowitzhe might declare corporate and personal bankruptcy soonSep 12 03:37
DaemonFCPIA isn't going downhill.Sep 12 03:37
XRevan86schestowitz: As long as he can find a volunteer to maintain the IRC servers…Sep 12 03:37
DaemonFCThey're gone and all that's left is a smoking crater.Sep 12 03:37
XRevan86schestowitz: It's not that expensive.Sep 12 03:38
schestowitzif there is actual activity in itSep 12 03:38
schestowitzfrom what I gathered, #linux and #freenode are active thereSep 12 03:38
schestowitzand our botSep 12 03:38
schestowitzI doubt much happens there so it serves little actual valueSep 12 03:38
schestowitzat least lee helped fund kiwi irc, which is good tbhSep 12 03:39
schestowitzalso gave 50k usd to fsfSep 12 03:39
schestowitzsaved linux journal for a whileSep 12 03:39
schestowitzamong other thingsSep 12 03:39
XRevan86True, and now it changed the lead developer.Sep 12 03:39
schestowitzin order to promote piraSep 12 03:39
schestowitz*piaSep 12 03:39
schestowitz-TRfunny typoSep 12 03:40
schestowitz-TRbut not a freudian slipSep 12 03:40
schestowitz-TRmany use pia for 'piracy'Sep 12 03:40
schestowitz-TRto avoid detection and (legal) actionSep 12 03:41
DaemonFCMy phone just said "fully charged" and disconnected its data link to the computer.Sep 12 03:41
schestowitz-TRdoes anyone here have experience with web ui's of git?Sep 12 03:41
schestowitz-TRfrom admin side?Sep 12 03:41
schestowitz-TRI want to expose our git repos to the world soon, does sourcehut support gemini:// ?Sep 12 03:42
XRevan86schestowitz: And then he had the arrogance to take over a network only to wipe it clean, impose restrictions and recondition it for the digital empire that he's trying to build.Sep 12 03:42
schestowitzI thought Drew DeVault added gemini:// support to itSep 12 03:43
schestowitzit would be nice to host git from homeSep 12 03:43
schestowitznot high bankdwidth anywaySep 12 03:43
schestowitz 12 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ~adnano/go-gemini - sourcehut gitSep 12 03:43
schestowitzgemini:// is downSep 12 03:45
schestowitz 12 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ~fkfd/gemini - sourcehut gitSep 12 03:45
XRevan86and in-between all that to approve mini-takeovers messing around with individual channels, alienating as many people as possible.Sep 12 03:45
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techrights-news#visurf , a web browser based on #NetSurf 12 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | visurf, a web browser based on NetSurfSep 12 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Install and Then Use NetSurf as a Web Browser for the User-Centric Web, Not ‘GAFAMNet’ | TechrightsSep 12 03:46
techrights-news"Disclaimer: I am the founder of a company which competes with GitHub." 12 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Is GitHub a derivative work of GPL'd software?Sep 12 03:47
DaemonFCschestowitz, I just like having the option of not having to pay over and over again to listen to the same exact songs.Sep 12 03:48
DaemonFCI mean, a lot of the people who made those songs are dead or retired.Sep 12 03:48
XRevan86The transition has been completed for a month already, the bridge is useless, it's still up just because it's zero maintenance, it can run for the same amount of time as indefinitely. But should it?Sep 12 03:48
DaemonFCTheir CDs go for a buck at the thrift store.Sep 12 03:48
techrights-news"I wrote the absolutely bare minimum remote helper. And since Gemini is a read-only protocol, `git push` will never work. This is just useful for publishing git repos on Gemini sites. The server side could easily be added to the Gemini servers that support CGI scripts." 12 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Basic git clone over gemini:// workingSep 12 03:49
DaemonFCApple Music sidesteps not only controlling the file and playing it however many times you want, but also the right of first sale.Sep 12 03:49
DaemonFCSince there was no "sale", you have no rights.Sep 12 03:49
schestowitzXRevan86: you want to turn it off, I can tell, so go ahead and follow the gut feelingSep 12 03:49
schestowitzdoes the bridge work as a replicator to other protocols other than jabber and matrix?Sep 12 03:50
schestowitzbecause we might be able to reuse it betterSep 12 03:50
DaemonFCIt's just stupid. Most people listen to such a small collection, it can be stored on a cheap SD card, even in FLAC.Sep 12 03:50
DaemonFCBut certainly as MP3.Sep 12 03:50
XRevan86schestowitz: Yea, it can do all sorts of stuff.Sep 12 03:50
DaemonFCAs MP3, most people can store all the music they'll ever listen to on $10 worth of flash memory.Sep 12 03:51
schestowitzXRevan86: I am checking whether to publish our git stuff over gemini:// atmSep 12 03:51
schestowitzinstead of www because gitea, gogs, gitlab etc. are bloatSep 12 03:51
schestowitzand gitlab is not even free softwareSep 12 03:51
schestowitzit's the carrot-and-stick trapSep 12 03:51
DaemonFCApple turns $10 worth of flash memory into $12.99 a month forever.Sep 12 03:51
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm just bothered by things that have no reason to exist and just pollute the participants list.Sep 12 03:51
schestowitzXRevan86: is matrix partly centralised?Sep 12 03:52
schestowitzbecause one upside of LC is the matrix bridgeSep 12 03:52
DaemonFCBut I agree with what a forum poster said several years ago.Sep 12 03:52
DaemonFCRegarding the FLAC vs lossy debate.Sep 12 03:52
schestowitzcan we make our irc network accessible over the 'matrix network'?Sep 12 03:53
schestowitzmind you, I am not sure how matrix works, only dabbled in itSep 12 03:53
DaemonFCIt's all going to look so stupid in 10-20 years when you can have all the flash memory you want for a few bucks and people have all these MP3 files around because they wanted it to be small.Sep 12 03:53
XRevan86schestowitz: I've seen quite a bit of third-party Matrix servers, it looks like traction makes it worth to overcome the obstacles for more people.Sep 12 03:53
XRevan86schestowitz: But I'm not following it closely.Sep 12 03:53
XRevan86schestowitz: The best way to bridge into the Matrix would be through that Libera channel %).Sep 12 03:54
schestowitz 12 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dhuseby/git-remote-gemini: A Git remote helper to do basic cloning of repos from a Gemini server.Sep 12 03:55
XRevan86With no need to create a Matrix-only channel, they can use as a Matrix server.Sep 12 03:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, On second thought, not sure I can vote for the Libertarians, even as a protest.Sep 12 03:56
DaemonFCThey just posted that what Biden is doing is unacceptable, forcing the vaccine on people.Sep 12 03:56
schestowitzXRevan86: then we have 2 middlemenSep 12 03:56
DaemonFCBut if your employer or landlord demands it, they should be able to.Sep 12 03:56
schestowitzis there like a matrix "company" like the one that banned DaemonFC?Sep 12 03:56
schestowitzin which you can set up a room or channel or whatever they call itSep 12 03:56
DaemonFCI said, "What's next? If your employer only hires circumcised men or women who haven't had an abortion, or your landlord demands sex along with the rent, that's okay too?"Sep 12 03:56
schestowitzand then bridge two-way with that?Sep 12 03:57
DaemonFCThey can make criminal demands because they're not the government?Sep 12 03:57
XRevan86schestowitz: looks like a Matrix room.Sep 12 03:57
schestowitzthis way we can offer "matrix" as an option, which won't require registering in fake-korea-irc.comSep 12 03:57
XRevan86schestowitz: And then that can be bridged as just IRC.Sep 12 03:57
DaemonFCI'm certainly not in favor of saying well the government can't foist unreasonable demands and assault on you, but your employer who pays $8 an hour or your landlord can.Sep 12 03:58
schestowitzXRevan86: but does that mean the bridge would then feed LC? and pull from it (from IRC)?Sep 12 03:58
DaemonFCThe fact that they're of a position like that just leads credence to the people who say they're just anti-government cranks who don't mind America as an oligarchy other than that.Sep 12 03:59
DaemonFC*lendsSep 12 03:59
DaemonFCThat's not freedom, that's being a slave to a different master.Sep 12 04:00
XRevan86 12 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bridged Networks - Matrix IRC BridgeSep 12 04:00
DaemonFCSo much for the Libertarian Party.Sep 12 04:00
schestowitz 12 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-clehner/git-remote-gemini - GitersSep 12 04:00
XRevan86schestowitz: The Libera room will be simultaneously IRC and Matrix, so yesSep 12 04:01
schestowitzXRevan86: can we request they add ours?Sep 12 04:01
DaemonFCOh god, now the post office is basically saying "Also, your mail might be late in Chicago because the nignogs are out killing the mailman after dark.".Sep 12 04:01
DaemonFC"Sorry about that."Sep 12 04:01
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't think they'll care for a small server.Sep 12 04:02
DaemonFCMandy asked what the latest Metra UP-N was into Chicago. I said, "It would arrive at 12:32 AM in Ogilvie Station.".Sep 12 04:02
DaemonFCHe said "Oh god.".Sep 12 04:02
schestowitzif they have that sort of attitude, we should not work with them :-DSep 12 04:02
DaemonFCI said, "Yeah, well, maybe if they let me open carry in Chicago I'd be in a train station that late.".Sep 12 04:02
schestowitzthey can also subject us to speech policing by threats of revoking accessSep 12 04:02
schestowitz(also: they use Microsoft for this)Sep 12 04:03
XRevan86schestowitz: Also, if ye remember, I asked months ago about the possibility to host appservice-irc here, and Ariadne didn't like that idea as it's quite a bit of extra work.Sep 12 04:03
schestowitz(never a goof sign)Sep 12 04:03
schestowitz*goodSep 12 04:03
schestowitzthey use proprietary software for their sitesSep 12 04:03
XRevan86As it also needs a Matrix server (Synapse).Sep 12 04:03
schestowitzwhat else does the mattermost software bridge with?Sep 12 04:04
DaemonFCschestowitz, Speaking of which....Sep 12 04:04
DaemonFCCourt on Monday.Sep 12 04:04
XRevan86schestowitz: matterbridge is not mattermostSep 12 04:04
schestowitzjabber I have experience with, e.g. openfire,  but massive maintenance overhead like adding usersSep 12 04:04
DaemonFCThe white devil vs the economically disadvantaged victims of structural racism.Sep 12 04:04
DaemonFCding ding dingSep 12 04:05
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XRevan86schestowitz: sshchat is maybe an interesting one.Sep 12 04:05
DaemonFCI watched a black guy tell the judge I'm getting he was full of shit, in his own courtroom.Sep 12 04:05
DaemonFCWe all know how that would have ended for him if he was white.Sep 12 04:06
DaemonFCJudge: Oh, I'm full of shit? 30 days in county. Next!Sep 12 04:06
DaemonFCBut of course, he's an economically disadvantaged victim of structural racism person of color.Sep 12 04:06
DaemonFCSo nothing happened. Court supervision on the traffic offense.Sep 12 04:06
DaemonFCZoom Court was very informative of how things actually play out in there.Sep 12 04:07
DaemonFCAll the white people showing up were in a suit or at least a nice pair of dockers and a button down shirt.Sep 12 04:07
DaemonFCYe, your honor, no your honor.Sep 12 04:07
DaemonFCThank you, your honor. (After they'd been fined!)Sep 12 04:08
techrights-news...based on my research so far, it's not (yet) possible to manage/view/access/present git repos over gemini protocol. It would be a TREMENDOUSLY USEFUL project for someone to undertake, but Gulag/GSoC (Google) would never help #geminiProtocol as it threatens #www #monopoliesSep 12 04:08
DaemonFCThen there's the black people. Ass hanging out, smoking a cigarette, tells the judge he's full of shit.Sep 12 04:08
schestowitz-TRleah: pingSep 12 04:08
schestowitz-TRdid you have any luck presenting code from doxygen in gemini:// ?Sep 12 04:08
schestowitz-TRand moreover updating gemtext files from git automatically?Sep 12 04:09
XRevan86schestowitz: For XMPP there's a double-puppeting bridge in development by cheogram.comSep 12 04:09
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I think that's the most perverse thing about Garrett.Sep 12 04:09
XRevan86That's pretty promising.Sep 12 04:09
schestowitz-TR[04:05] <XRevan86> schestowitz: sshchat is maybe an interesting one.\Sep 12 04:09
DaemonFCHe's one of these leftist morons that goes along with this load of tripe.Sep 12 04:09
schestowitz-TRI use ytalk over sshSep 12 04:09
DaemonFC"We can't enforce laws against fare evasion! We have Most of them are ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED VICTIMS OF STRUCTURAL RACISM PEOPLE OF COLOR!!!!".Sep 12 04:10
DaemonFCWell, that's a lot of words for "black".Sep 12 04:10
XRevan86schestowitz: ssh-chat is chat directly with the ssh client.Sep 12 04:10
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: so it would be like the jabber "chat"/"rooms" but with IRC bridge?Sep 12 04:10
DaemonFCThey say they're pro-environment, they wasted a lot of my screen on time to read that.Sep 12 04:10
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: seems OTSep 12 04:11
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: so, you set up an ssh-serverSep 12 04:11
DaemonFCSeems maybe not so much.Sep 12 04:11
schestowitz-TRand that then listens to clients that 'dial in'?Sep 12 04:11
schestowitz-TRand relays in/out messages?Sep 12 04:11
DaemonFCCompanies that claim to write software and actually write whitepapers are packed to the gills with these idiots.Sep 12 04:11
schestowitz-TRwith IRC bridge in the mix?Sep 12 04:12
XRevan86schestowitz: So IRC users get an individual puppet on the XMPP side and vice versa.Sep 12 04:12
schestowitz-TRso people can in effect do irc over ssh?Sep 12 04:12
XRevan86Ah, I misunderstood the question.Sep 12 04:12
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▂▆█▃▂▄▅▁▄▆▃▄▅▃▃▅▃▄▃▃▄▄▅▃▄▃▄▁▄▅▁▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.95 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁█▂████▁▂▇▂▂▁▁██▂█▁▂▁▂▁▂▄▁█▁█▁▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 136.31▕ swarm size (avg): 261.32  ⟲Sep 12 04:12
schestowitz-TRI'm thinking, people who can't do IRC because it's hard... would they use jabber? It's not easier...Sep 12 04:13
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I'm afraid ball joints day for my car might be approaching.Sep 12 04:13
DaemonFCProbably put it off for a while.Sep 12 04:13
XRevan86schestowitz: The idea is simple: do ssh host, and ye are in the chat.Sep 12 04:13
schestowitz-TRah, I seeSep 12 04:13
schestowitz-TRI can run such a daemon if it is stableSep 12 04:14
DaemonFCThe strut noise seemed to go away for a while but comes back a little bit under some conditions.Sep 12 04:14
schestowitz-TRthere are some things like telnet similar to itSep 12 04:14
schestowitz-TRbut telnet:// is not secureSep 12 04:14
schestowitz-TRor bbsSep 12 04:14
DaemonFCI think what they actually fixed with the new struts was the front end doesn't jump up and down as much, making the ball joints creak and squeak.Sep 12 04:14
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: so matterbridge can delay r/w with that?Sep 12 04:14
XRevan86schestowitz: Maybe that could be used as a secure drop of some kind…Sep 12 04:14
schestowitz-TRyeahSep 12 04:15
XRevan86schestowitz: yepSep 12 04:15
schestowitz-TRlet me check itSep 12 04:15
schestowitz-TRshithub :/Sep 12 04:15
schestowitz-TRok, pressing on regardlessSep 12 04:16
schestowitz-TRmit licenceSep 12 04:16
schestowitz-TRsttike 2Sep 12 04:16
schestowitz-TRmade with go, that's okSep 12 04:16
schestowitzssh  chat.shazow.netSep 12 04:17
schestowitz-TRlooks niceSep 12 04:18
schestowitz-TRdoes colours tooSep 12 04:18
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: if I install this at home (SBC behind me), would it bridge OK over ssh?Sep 12 04:18
DaemonFC 12 04:18
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schestowitz-TRI have an open ssh port on gemini.techrights.orgSep 12 04:18
schestowitz-TRand ssh isn't throttled except for bandwidthSep 12 04:19
XRevan86schestowitz: As long as my VPS can reach it.Sep 12 04:19
schestowitz-TRcan you ssh 12 04:19
schestowitz-TRshould be able yoSep 12 04:19
schestowitz-TR*toSep 12 04:19
schestowitz-TRoh, waitSep 12 04:19
schestowitz-TRthis ssh-chat seems to require allowing any guest accountSep 12 04:19
schestowitz-TRpasswordlessSep 12 04:20
schestowitz-TRwhich might conflict with existing thingsSep 12 04:20
schestowitz-TRthew ergo server has go alreadySep 12 04:21
XRevan86Oh, I've forgotten about an interesting one: it can bridge Mumble.Sep 12 04:21
schestowitz-TRit has openssh, but open outwards only for nowSep 12 04:21
schestowitz-TRso people can ssh irc.techrights.orgSep 12 04:21
schestowitz-TRover port 22Sep 12 04:21
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: we have mumbleSep 12 04:22
schestowitz-TRit's in another country thoughSep 12 04:22
kingoffrancesshchat, interesting. i think you could do same inside some sandbox, setting shell to whatever command, but interesting :)Sep 12 04:22
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: so basically you'd bridge (ssh) and (66**)Sep 12 04:23
schestowitz-TRand so an irc container becomes also ssh container for irc and vice versaSep 12 04:24
schestowitz-TRoopsSep 12 04:24
schestowitz-TRI meant irc.techrights.orgSep 12 04:24
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Biden basically had his Mission Accomplished moment on July 4th.Sep 12 04:26
DaemonFC"Independence" from the virus.Sep 12 04:26
DaemonFCWhat a stupid and dangerous thing to say.Sep 12 04:26
DaemonFCViruses don't just disappear and bend to the will of some politician.Sep 12 04:26
DaemonFCThey can disappear almost completely and then come back years later at you almost out of nowhere.Sep 12 04:26
XRevan86schestowitz: I'll go to sleep now.Sep 12 04:27
XRevan86It should be figured out if ssh-chat will actually be useful here. Not sure.Sep 12 04:27
schestowitz-TRit can be easy for spammingSep 12 04:28
schestowitz-TRssh, write something nasty, log outSep 12 04:28
schestowitz-TRin terms of dependencies, we already have golang on thereSep 12 04:28
schestowitz-TRin terms of security, not sure... I don't like open ssh ports with guest accounts openSep 12 04:29
schestowitz-TRthe UI, which I try on their test server, is very 1970s-likeSep 12 04:29
schestowitz-TRtelnet or worseSep 12 04:29
schestowitz * ache left. (After 71 minutes)Sep 12 04:29
schestowitzlegend: voldyman: how r u sirSep 12 04:29
schestowitzlegend: bun? zenware? pavel?Sep 12 04:29
schestowitzlegend: nooooSep 12 04:29
schestowitzlegend: why is no one on :(Sep 12 04:29
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schestowitz[roy] hiSep 12 04:30
schestowitz[roy] Sep 12 04:30
schestowitzit has colours tooSep 12 04:30
schestowitzfor the nicknamesSep 12 04:30
schestowitzclicks would not work over terminalSep 12 04:30
schestowitzXRevan86: gn, I've asked a friend for an opinion on this...Sep 12 04:31
schestowitztbh, whistleblowers with doc drops who can't do pgp or even protonmail (simplifying that) probably don't know how to use ssh or terminalSep 12 04:31
XRevan86Looks like the Matrix bridge idea is the most solid here, and there are three ways how to make one.Sep 12 04:32
schestowitz-TRLC would open up to fightingSep 12 04:32
schestowitz-TRthere are people there who would fight usSep 12 04:32
schestowitz-TRand it would not be productive to usSep 12 04:32
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XRevan86schestowitz: I really think ye are severely overestimating their importance.Sep 12 04:33
schestowitz-TRLC's?Sep 12 04:33
schestowitz-TRit is a potential noise factorSep 12 04:33
XRevan86schestowitz: Librarian's.Sep 12 04:33
schestowitz-TRif bridged inSep 12 04:33
schestowitz-TRno, not just himSep 12 04:34
XRevan86schestowitz: A functioning bridge into something that isn't a dead empire is going to bring some noise.Sep 12 04:35
schestowitz-TRI don't see why irc<->irc<->matrixSep 12 04:35
schestowitz-TRinstead of just irc<->matrixSep 12 04:35
schestowitz-TRbecause the one in the middle has matrix's 'blessing'?Sep 12 04:35
XRevan86schestowitz: Because appservice-irc is hard, also because then someone will have to be directly there.Sep 12 04:35
schestowitz-TRin gemini I did a read-only IRC thingSep 12 04:36
XRevan86schestowitz: One of the three ways is to host appservice-irc ourselves.Sep 12 04:36
schestowitzgemini:// 12 04:37
schestowitzin gemini there is also read/write chat software, very rudimentary, but no connection to irc protocolSep 12 04:37
XRevan86IRC is easy to host, XMPP is easy-ish to host, Matrix is… a challenge.Sep 12 04:38
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schestowitzWarning: Permanently added ',' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.Sep 12 04:38
schestowitz * Welcome to ssh-chat, enter /help for more.Sep 12 04:39
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schestowitzXRevan86: any practical advantages to XMPP?Sep 12 04:39
XRevan86schestowitz: So the appeal of using Libera for this task is simply because it allows reaching Matrix without actually touching Matrix.Sep 12 04:39
schestowitzbut then your advertise our metrix presence as LC something, no?Sep 12 04:40
XRevan86schestowitz: How should I answer that as a person that uses an XMPP client to write this message…Sep 12 04:40
XRevan86schestowitz: Worse than 12 04:41
schestowitzyou use pidgin?Sep 12 04:42
schestowitzpidgin is a multi-protocol thingSep 12 04:42
schestowitzthere are othersSep 12 04:42
schestowitzbut it just 'also' supports ircSep 12 04:42
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm using Conversations, I'm in bed.Sep 12 04:42
schestowitzI used it for like a decade for workSep 12 04:42
schestowitzopenfire is javaSep 12 04:43
schestowitzi.e. bloatSep 12 04:43
schestowitzand I had bad experience with it, having to restart itSep 12 04:43
XRevan86XMPP has a lot of advantages to the user such as message archival (in private messages too), end-to-end encryption, message synchronisation across all clients, VVoIP…Sep 12 04:43
schestowitzwould someone use it?Sep 12 04:43
schestowitzlet me ask a different questionSep 12 04:44
schestowitzsay you connect to it...Sep 12 04:44
schestowitzand then there are "rooms" for the channels?Sep 12 04:45
schestowitzwould you see a list of who's in it (in IRC)?Sep 12 04:45
schestowitzor would you talk to a room of only jabber users connected to the server and the bridge just show with alias for the irc user?Sep 12 04:45
schestowitzunlike matrix, it can at least be self-hostedSep 12 04:46
schestowitzI know matrix can be too, but...Sep 12 04:46
schestowitz(same issue as fediverse)Sep 12 04:46
XRevan86schestowitz: matterbridge cannot puppet the users, but it can do spoofing like RELAYMSG for XMPP too (with a Prosody module).Sep 12 04:46
schestowitzdo you think it would be worth the maintenance overhead?Sep 12 04:47
schestowitzalso, what daemon would you use to avoid java?Sep 12 04:48
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm using ejabberd (Erlang) myself.Sep 12 04:48
schestowitzif we run it just for 1-2 users, it would be insaneSep 12 04:48
schestowitzwe can advertise jabberSep 12 04:48
schestowitzbut I don't know how many takers there would beSep 12 04:48
XRevan86schestowitz: Hard to tell, no one asked for it, and I can just use biboumi.Sep 12 04:49
schestowitzlet me first wait for response re ssh-chatSep 12 04:49
schestowitza lot lighter Sep 12 04:49
XRevan86schestowitz: Regarding critics in Libera, they'll probably leave like superkuh when that channel is claimed.Sep 12 04:51
schestowitz-TRthen it gives power to LC over itSep 12 04:52
schestowitz-TRhypothetical case/scenario: we take your channel (i.e. users) away unless you silence raycist DaemonFCSep 12 04:52
XRevan86schestowitz: As would anything short of self-hosting Matrix.Sep 12 04:52
schestowitz-TRyeahSep 12 04:53
schestowitz-TRmy understanding is that matrix is quasi-centralisedSep 12 04:53
schestowitz-TRunless you want to exist in an islandSep 12 04:53
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DaemonFCYou can do your own instance, but censors other instances and sometimes individual rooms on those instances, making the decision as to whether users on their server can even see them.Sep 12 04:54
schestowitz-TRthat ^Sep 12 04:54
DaemonFCSo it's not a legitimate protocol. I mean, I can load other IRC servers on HexChat and schestowitz-TR can't do a damned thing to stop me even if he wants to.Sep 12 04:54
schestowitz-TRsame issue as LCSep 12 04:54
DaemonFCIRC lets you control what happens on a server you own, and nothing else.Sep 12 04:55
XRevan86schestowitz: is disproportionately big, but the problem is that their distributed model is flooding any server that dares to federate with it with events, so they tend not to touch it.Sep 12 04:56
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: I will get back to you on ssh-chat. failing that or rejecting that, we can look into xmmpSep 12 04:56
schestowitz-TRwe already have mumbleSep 12 04:56
schestowitz-TRbut it's for techbytes recordingSep 12 04:56
DaemonFCMatrix is a great protocol for a few people on the main instance to decide what you can see or not. If China wanted a system for state-propaganda and to monitor and control users, they'd undoubtedly pick Matrix.Sep 12 04:56
XRevan86So is its own thing, the rest – its own.Sep 12 04:56
DaemonFCWell, the other instances tend to be dead, or people who are just really weird.Sep 12 04:57
DaemonFCI mean, like some of them are borderline illegal shit.Sep 12 04:57
schestowitz-TRillegal by whose standards?Sep 12 04:57
schestowitz-TRand where?Sep 12 04:57
DaemonFCWell, I think CP is illegal in most countries.Sep 12 04:57
schestowitz-TR50 years ago gay chat would be "illega"Sep 12 04:57
schestowitz-TRin some countries, it still isSep 12 04:57
XRevan86DaemonFC: Some friends of mine host their own little Matrix communities.Sep 12 04:58
schestowitz-TRI think I'll implement something for git over gemini://Sep 12 04:58
schestowitz-TRbut it's a bit projectSep 12 04:58
schestowitz-TR*bigSep 12 04:58
XRevan86And the modus operandi is always "don't join a channel or my server will eat all the space and die"Sep 12 04:59
XRevan86the big ones like #matrix in particularSep 12 05:00
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schestowitz[roy] hiSep 12 05:00
schestowitzsds: pm me for cryptocurrency related programming job offerSep 12 05:00
schestowitzlolSep 12 05:00
schestowitzssh-chat attracting the crypto charlatansSep 12 05:00
XRevan86schestowitz: Ask if it's for a digital empire.Sep 12 05:01
schestowitzthere are already decent cli clients for IRCSep 12 05:01
schestowitznot sure why ssh would be any more functionalSep 12 05:01
schestowitzit does not even support irc commandsSep 12 05:01
schestowitzXRevan86: okSep 12 05:02
XRevan86schestowitz: Looks like despite trying to find a purpose for the bridge, it's just unneeded.Sep 12 05:02
DaemonFCI like how Canada has this squeaky clean image.Sep 12 05:03
schestowitzXRevan86: well, the change needed would be smallSep 12 05:03
schestowitzmight as well repurpose itSep 12 05:03
DaemonFCMeanwhile, they hate immigrants and export tar sands oil.Sep 12 05:03
DaemonFCMake you wait a year or two to see the doctor even though "everyone can".Sep 12 05:03
DaemonFCAssuming they live long enough to.Sep 12 05:03
DaemonFCAbout the only thing they have on us, it seems, is that there's a lack of gun crime, but if the US was that white, we'd have similar statistics.Sep 12 05:04
DaemonFCAlthough the left only blames the guns themselves and the second amendment.Sep 12 05:04
schestowitzhow is this on topic, DaemonFC?Sep 12 05:04
DaemonFCStallman posted a thing urging Canadians to petition their government to stop exporting fossil fuels.Sep 12 05:05
DaemonFCNot gonna happen.Sep 12 05:05
XRevan86schestowitz: Maybe it could bridge just tuxmachines to Libera.Sep 12 05:05
DaemonFCTrudeau was the loudest complainer about the US canceling Keystone XL, which is being ripped apart for scrap metal.Sep 12 05:05
DaemonFCAnd Canada has sued the United States in a NAFTA court to try to force us to by oil or pay them "reparations" for not buying oil.Sep 12 05:06
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: or all except techrights for now?Sep 12 05:06
schestowitz-TRto avoid conflict?Sep 12 05:06
DaemonFCSo they're trying to sue us over clean air, fuel economy standards, and electric cars.Sep 12 05:06
schestowitz-TR(I can assure you, there WOULD be conflicts)Sep 12 05:06
schestowitz-TRand it puts me in awkward situationsSep 12 05:06
XRevan86schestowitz: Register them though.Sep 12 05:06
schestowitz-TRneed we?Sep 12 05:06
schestowitz-TRunless there will be trolling?Sep 12 05:07
schestowitz-TRyou need op?Sep 12 05:07
DaemonFCMaybe if we have to have fossil fuels, we can open some truly filthy coal plants after studying where we need to put them in order to make most of the air toxics fly across the border and land up there on them.Sep 12 05:07
schestowitz-TRfor changing nicks?Sep 12 05:07
DaemonFCAssholes.Sep 12 05:07
XRevan86schestowitz: It's good to have used channels registered.Sep 12 05:07
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: maybe first withoutSep 12 05:07
DaemonFCBut really, almost nobody here remembers Canada is even up there.Sep 12 05:08
schestowitz-TRas if's a lot of operational overheadSep 12 05:08
DaemonFCThey're a real pest sometimes though.Sep 12 05:08
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: I use a guest account thereSep 12 05:08
DaemonFCWith Prime Minister Trumpdeau.Sep 12 05:08
schestowitz-TRdon't want to register the channels as a  guest accountSep 12 05:08
DaemonFC 12 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | CEOs Give Advice To Millennials About Saving MoneySep 12 05:09
DaemonFC"If there’s anyone who can teach younger generations about saving money, it’s the men and women who are systematically robbing them of accumulated wealth and hoarding it for themselves."Sep 12 05:10
DaemonFCBill Gates pictured.Sep 12 05:10
DaemonFCNice.Sep 12 05:10
DaemonFC“If you put away even 5% from each paycheck, soon enough Steve Jobs will die, and you’ll be CEO of Apple.” -Tim CookSep 12 05:11
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Sep 12 05:11
DaemonFC“30% of your income should be for rent, 25% for food, and 40% for hush money for mistresses.” -Jamie Dimon (Chase)Sep 12 05:11
DaemonFCThat's good.Sep 12 05:11
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XRevan86schestowitz: Unregister on, register there %).Sep 12 05:12
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XRevan86The resulting amount of accounts will remain the same.Sep 12 05:12
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XRevan86It's just too easy to lose +o when a channel is not registered.Sep 12 05:13
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: :-)Sep 12 05:13
DaemonFC"“One of the most important things you can do, and this is something it took me my whole life to learn, is avoid going to a privately owned island with a widely known pedophile for a few of his parties. That will really destroy your savings.” -Bill GatesSep 12 05:14
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: Does your bridge already have an account in LC?Sep 12 05:14
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Bill and MALINDA are still working together on fake philanthropy.Sep 12 05:15
DaemonFCThey invested some money in some British startup that says it wants to research broad spectrum antivirals.Sep 12 05:15
DaemonFCMaybe people don't care as much about baldness and boners as they once did.Sep 12 05:15
DaemonFCHave some Pfizer. It's just a little prick!Sep 12 05:16
kingoffrancelol daemonSep 12 05:16
kingoffrancethese sound like motivational posters lolSep 12 05:16
DaemonFCWhen people find themselves in hard times, they have to go back to basics.Sep 12 05:17
DaemonFCWe're not operating like we're in a booming economy, although the propaganda says we are.Sep 12 05:17
kingoffrancei mean, the real ones are at that level Sep 12 05:17
XRevan86schestowitz: Yes, I registered it all the way back in May.Sep 12 05:17
kingoffrancejust as usefulSep 12 05:17
DaemonFCPeople are trading recipes for how to have spam several times a week.Sep 12 05:17
DaemonFCMom always used to laugh at me for eating SPAM.Sep 12 05:19
DaemonFCNow she eats it, because she panicked and bought a bunch.Sep 12 05:19
DaemonFCI told her "Relax, you like Trump and he says there's no problem with the grocery stores!".Sep 12 05:19
DaemonFCTrump says don't panic, people are knifing each other for the last bottle of ketchup.Sep 12 05:20
DaemonFCbblSep 12 05:22
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schestowitz-TRXRevan86: maybe we can channel the bridge for all channels except #techrights to LC instead?Sep 12 05:24
schestowitz-TRat least this way some people on LC can reach usSep 12 05:24
schestowitz-TRvia 'side channels'Sep 12 05:24
schestowitz-TRthose channels almost never had ANY interaction anywaySep 12 05:25
techrights-newsneat miniature retro 12 05:34
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schestowitzXRevan86: Sep 12 05:46
schestowitz[roy] is it for a digital empire?Sep 12 05:46
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schestowitzleen: sounds like legend is loneSep 12 05:46
schestowitzit's a worthless chat there, with no real interaction among peopleSep 12 05:46
schestowitzI speak to a friend at the moment about technical aspects wrt ssh-chatSep 12 05:46
schestowitzhe too thinks irssi would be vastly betterSep 12 05:47
schestowitzand maybe no real practical benefit, so we now talk about mumble and xmmpSep 12 05:47
schestowitzI think the LC channels that are not #techrights are rather empty anyway and unless advertised I doubt people will /search or /list themSep 12 05:48
schestowitzmaybe this weekend we'll publish all the code from git, but over gemini:// instead of http/sSep 12 05:49
techrights-news"This Perl module converts POD documents to thread, the macro language I use for my static site builder (about which, more in another software release coming up shortly). This release fixes a whole ton of long-standing problems." 12 05:51
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techrights-news#visurf, a web browser based on #NetSurf • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 05:53
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gustafweechat is more powerful than irssi... but I prefer irssi anyway ;)Sep 12 07:57
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #EDRI #Internet ☞ #CJEU in surprise judgment: #zerorating is illegal under #EU law 12 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | CJEU in surprise judgment: zero rating is illegal under EU law - European Digital Rights (EDRi)Sep 12 08:22
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #California Passes Bill to Ensure #Amazon Workers Can Take Bathroom Breaks need a lot for THAT???Sep 12 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | California Passes Bill to Ensure Amazon Workers Can Take Bathroom BreaksSep 12 08:53
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techrights-newsiophk: :( social control media is beyond stupid, as is the copyright cartel #socialcontolSep 12 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Song RemoverSep 12 09:12
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techrights-news#greenwald 12 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chelsea Manning breaks friendship with 'greedy, unprincipled' Glenn Greenwald | MEAWWSep 12 09:25
techrights-news#assange #wikileaks 12 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Assange Case Isn’t About National Security, It’s About Narrative Control | River Cities' ReaderSep 12 09:25
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techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 12 09:56
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*techrights_guest|43 is now known as bagira_livesSep 12 10:30
bagira_livesschestowitz wish that RMS interview had been a little longerSep 12 10:31
bagira_livesi just the april 22nd postSep 12 10:32
bagira_liveseek -- just saw*Sep 12 10:32
schestowitz-TRabout which topic?Sep 12 10:32
schestowitz-TRmaybe it was a small portion of a long oneSep 12 10:32
bagira_livesre: smear campaigns and their level of organizationSep 12 10:32
schestowitz-TRlink?Sep 12 10:32
bagira_lives 12 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Richard Stallman on Paid Smear Campaigns | TechrightsSep 12 10:32
schestowitz 12 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Richard Stallman interviews in Techrights/TechBytes - TechrightsSep 12 10:33
schestowitzlots more hereSep 12 10:33
bagira_livesi think if one campaign were just completely ripped open and exposed, and that there were real consequences for the people involved that it would create a cultural impact Sep 12 10:34
schestowitz-TRit is not a new phenomenonSep 12 10:34
bagira_livesit seems like there already has been some in recent months but not to any preventative levelSep 12 10:34
bagira_lives(impact,  i mean)Sep 12 10:34
schestowitz-TRI learned over time, myself at least, how to avoid thoseSep 12 10:34
bagira_livesim basically immune to them after fighting them so longSep 12 10:35
schestowitz-TRsee stallman.orgSep 12 10:35
schestowitz-TRtodaySep 12 10:35
schestowitz-TRfront pageSep 12 10:35
schestowitz-TRoh, waitSep 12 10:35
schestowitz-TRno, he changed that backSep 12 10:35
bagira_livesthe folks in larger foss projects can't make up lies about me because of how i live so the only way they can get me is "he's a troublemaker, whisper whisper" and i wear that **** like a badge of honorSep 12 10:37
bagira_livesand it's trueSep 12 10:37
bagira_liveswait how tf am i even on here?  which network is this?Sep 12 10:38
bagira_livesis this liberiaSep 12 10:38
bagira_livesi dont see anything on his siteSep 12 10:39
bagira_livesrelated to that anywaySep 12 10:39
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bagira_livesironic though that the only means of communicating (unless im not aware of a 3rd network) with the only publication covering how these orgs try to blacklist folks is on networks that deliberately de-anonymize irc connections using forced SASL requirements and limiting registration to connect for SASL to consumer IPs so that they can moreSep 12 10:43
bagira_liveseffectively control who can be in the clubSep 12 10:43
schestowitz-TRthat's the nature of peopleSep 12 10:44
schestowitz-TRand societySep 12 10:44
schestowitz-TRso you need to change the way things are made technicallySep 12 10:44
schestowitz-TRas governments ban encryption where possibleSep 12 10:44
schestowitz-TR(real encryption)Sep 12 10:44
schestowitz-TRthe solution is technical, not policy, which can be boughtSep 12 10:44
bagira_liveswell, yeah, i mean, getting in is easy, its just a pain in the butt Sep 12 10:45
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bagira_livesdigital ocean for example is completely banned on both networksSep 12 10:46
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bagira_livesi could go aws its just a stupid amount of setupSep 12 10:46
schestowitz-TRyou need to re-engineerSep 12 10:46
schestowitz-TRat the moment I set up an interface for our self-hosted gitSep 12 10:47
schestowitz-TRit'll be gemini-onlySep 12 10:47
schestowitz-TRgemini has tons of web proxies to itSep 12 10:47
schestowitz-TRand I run it from homeSep 12 10:47
schestowitz-TRgemini:// 12 10:47
schestowitz-TRwork in progressSep 12 10:47
bagira_livesi typically will avoid open proxies for irc as when i get spotted they'll ban whole providers if they have to and most of those are already on the dronbl's, so, i typically will use VPS's to connect until the whole VPS provider is blacklistedSep 12 10:48
bagira_livesi just need a shit ton of IP addressesSep 12 10:49
bagira_livescould go the shodan route but it's legally grey (and not very grey tbh)Sep 12 10:50
schestowitz-TRseems like a misguided approach tbhSep 12 10:58
schestowitz-TRyou brute-force itSep 12 10:58
bagira_liveswait until im marketing a new distro not backed by big 5 fundingSep 12 10:59
bagira_livesit is gonna be u-g-l-ySep 12 10:59
bagira_livesin some senses im counting on itSep 12 11:00
bagira_livesif i can ever get the dang thing to release anywaySep 12 11:01
bagira_livesi need more peopleSep 12 11:01
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schestowitz-TRby big 5 you mean faang, not gafamSep 12 11:17
schestowitz-TRwhich misses the point imhoSep 12 11:17
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schestowitz-TRthere are also distros like that alreadySep 12 11:17
techrights-newsAlmost done now: a #geminiSpace capsule and space for our #git code to be browsed. No bloated #www frameworks, gemini:// only. #deletegithubSep 12 11:21
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techrights-news#facebook thinks competition harms its 'community' 12 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Humane Tech Now: "Just now on HN: "FB censored me for mentioning …" - MastodonSep 12 11:22
techrights-news“Came to a bar to have a nice beer, like any reasonable person would on a Friday. The waitress asked me to order through a QR code which would take my order only if I have a Gmail account. I left and found another bar because: I don’t want to have a beer through my Gmail. Jesus fucking Christ.” 12 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Aral Balkan: "“Came to a bar to have a nice beer, like any reas…" - Aral’s MastodonSep 12 11:23
techrights-newsPrince Andrew Is Served With Papers In A Civil Suit Over Sexual Assault Allegations #billgates next? 12 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Prince Andrew Is Served With Papers In A Civil Suit Over Sexual Assault AllegationsSep 12 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York TimesSep 12 11:24
techrights-news"It's just my ex, Bill" - Melinda. "We used to be friends" - Warren B. This happened after revelations in #mit (but it wasn't #billgates getting thrown under the bug in MIT but RMS. Nice decoy, eh?) 12 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | TechrightsSep 12 11:28
schestowitz-TR*busSep 12 11:28
techrights-news#paywalls aren't attractive. Sure, you CAN get past them by paying. BUT... what if you LIKE what you read and want to SHARE with a friend? This. Is. CRAP. #wwwSep 12 11:29
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techrights-newsStoraji: #freesw Simple inventory management application "The System required NodeJS 8, PHP 7, PHP Composer. It is licensed under MIT license."Sep 12 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Storaji: An Open-Source Simple inventory management applicationSep 12 12:10
techrights-news𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 11, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 12 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 11, 2021 | TechrightsSep 12 12:12
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leahschestowitz-TR: libreboot gemtext site isn't ready yet, but i've got someone working on itSep 12 12:24
leahi'm planning to make it the main siteSep 12 12:24
schestowitz-TRwe've just put git in geminiSep 12 12:24
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schestowitz-TRwe might be the world's first, but I don't knowSep 12 12:24
leahi will make gemtext the source markup language for all of libreboot.orgSep 12 12:25
leahi will add gemtext to markdown conversion in untitled, and then continue using pandoc, to generate htmlSep 12 12:25
leahin other words, i will use gemtext (for most pages) but convert it to htmlSep 12 12:25
leahsome pages, like the homepage, will be maintained twice (one in markdown, one in gemtext)Sep 12 12:26
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leahi will turn untitled into a hybrid gemtext/markdown static site generator. gemtext is inferior to markdown, but is good enough for most pages, and you can still use it for just basic page text but then insert that into a larger page with header, menu, footer etc (pandoc html template)Sep 12 12:26
leahif a gemtext file links to an image, it can be converted to an inline image on the markdown version, during conversionSep 12 12:27
leahof course, markdown->gemini is also possible, but not as cleanSep 12 12:27
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schestowitz-TRsounds like a good planSep 12 12:33
schestowitz-TReither way, I ended up doing it another waySep 12 12:33
schestowitzgemini:// 12 12:34
techrights-newsOur gemini/git work is done for now, but will be improved upon soon. gemini:// 12 12:35
techrights-newsssh-chat/bridge for irc is another possibility. Turns out we can leverage ssh alone for irc chats (no need for irc client), using a compatibility layer such as matterbridge. irc made simpler, in some sense, but also more vulnerable to floods/span as anyone can just ssh in.Sep 12 12:37
MinceR12 043636 <~schestowitz> DaemonFC: tablets are less malicious than phonesSep 12 12:47
MinceRthere are tablets with mobile phone functionalitySep 12 12:47
MinceRthere are even laptops with cellular connectivity built in :>Sep 12 12:47
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schestowitz-TRi know, but that is sadSep 12 12:48
schestowitz-TR"smart" laptopsSep 12 12:49
MinceR12 045159 < XRevan86> schestowitz: I'm just bothered by things that have no reason to exist and just pollute the participants list.Sep 12 12:49
MinceRyou're never going to like public chats then :>Sep 12 12:49
schestowitz-TRor twitterSep 12 12:49
MinceR12 061113 < DaemonFC> “If you put away even 5% from each paycheck, soon enough Steve Jobs will die, and you’ll be CEO of Apple.” -Tim CookSep 12 12:52
MinceRlolSep 12 12:52
schestowitz-TRTim CR0ookSep 12 12:53
schestowitz-TRTim, mind if I scan your phone?Sep 12 12:53
schestowitz-TR'ya 'ol' hash!"Sep 12 12:53
schestowitz-TR"standards procedure, Timmy, thanks for your cooperation"Sep 12 12:54
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techrights-newsLatest on the manic, irrational effort to #patent life and nature in the United States #patents #monopolySep 12 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Patent Docs: ToolGen Files Opposition to Broad Preliminary Motion No. 1 to Change Interference CountSep 12 12:58
techrights-news"Governor #Newsom has instituted a large program to provide and adapt housing for #California 's homeless people — though it isn't as big as the problem requires." 12 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard StallmanSep 12 13:00
techrights-news[Satire] Study: Majority Of U.S. Population One Disappointing Sandwich Away From Complete Mental Breakdown ⚓ 12 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Study: Majority Of U.S. Population One Disappointing Sandwich Away From Complete Mental BreakdownSep 12 13:02
techrights-newsIt's Looking Like Folios / Pagesets Might Miss Making It Into Linux 5.15 - Phoronix ⚓ ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in 12 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's Looking Like Folios / Pagesets Might Miss Making It Into Linux 5.15 - PhoronixSep 12 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsSep 12 13:03
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techrights-newsWorse than before the invasion 12 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.N. says Afghan staff increasingly harassed, intimidated since Taliban takeover | ReutersSep 12 13:06
techrights-news"Ties between the world's two biggest economies have been languishing at their lowest point in decades over issues ranging from human rights to transparency over the origins of COVID-19." 12 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.N. chief urges China, US to keep bilateral spats out of climate fight | ReutersSep 12 13:08
techrights-newsI see that the corrupt #guardian is still taking bribes from a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein and still inciting the public, selectively, against #microsoft rivals (that do the same or less than Microsoft). #billgates #briberySep 12 13:09
techrights-news#SJVN in #theregister now. I hope he quits the #microsoft #propagandaMill that #zdnet is... 12 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open-source software starts with developers, but there are other important contributors, too. Who exactly? Good question • The RegisterSep 12 13:11
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techrights-newsCommon misconception: large corporations try to cancel right-leaning developers. Reality: large corporations love to cancel their sceptics, critics and ideological rivals (RMS is one example). They play the "wing" games as a convenient pretext, weaponised by "isms".Sep 12 13:15
MinceR(cat) 12 13:15
techrights-news"In addition to the #RISCV changes merged last week for the #Linux 5.15 kernel, a second batch of patches was merged this weekend." 12 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RISC-V Gets Expanded Stack Randomization With Linux 5.15 - PhoronixSep 12 13:15
techrights-news#Kernel: RISC-V, Folios, and Security • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GPL #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kernel: RISC-V, Folios, and Security | Tux MachinesSep 12 13:17
techrights-news"How many times did you need to ask your friends for an opinion or a vote? Some #Google modules can help this but when you want to privately host your surveys the best answer is #LimeSurvey on Raspberry PI" 12 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Self-host your Surveys with LimeSurvey and Raspberry PISep 12 13:20
techrights-newsMr. Thaler is just totally trolling or ridiculing patent systems all around the world, both officex and courts. That helps discredit the system for what a lunacy machine it is fast becoming, unhinged from its original goals/rationale 12 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thaler comes up short in district court fight over inventorship rights for AI | BioWorldSep 12 13:24
techrights-news"Daddy, what does #Ericsson make?" "Nothing, sweetheart, it's just paying some thuggish #patent #law firms to #blackmail those who still make things..." 12 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ericsson Fifth Circuit win further fortifies SEP owner stance in US | Managing Intellectual PropertySep 12 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | If Ericsson and Its Patent Trolls (Like Avanci and Unwired Planet) Cannot Make It, the Patent Microcosm Will Perish | TechrightsSep 12 13:26
techrights-newsApache Software Foundation Saw $3M In Revenue, ~134M Changed Lines Of Code Last Year #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware 12 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apache Software Foundation Saw $3M In Revenue, ~134M Changed Lines Of Code Last Year - PhoronixSep 12 13:38
MinceR 12 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | After Killing the Independence of Apache Software Foundation (ASF) Microsoft Steals Its Soul, Too | TechrightsSep 12 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - RaptureSep 12 13:38
techrights-news#OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 12 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 12 13:40
techrights-news#Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesSep 12 13:41
techrights-news#FreeSoftware : Events, Stats, and More • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Free Software: Events, Stats, and More | Tux MachinesSep 12 13:41
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techrights-news#KDE DEVLOG: The Science Of... Changing The Wallpaper!? - Kockatoo Tube ⚓ ䷉ #peertube #gnu #linuxSep 12 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KDE DEVLOG: The Science Of... Changing The Wallpaper!? - Kockatoo TubeSep 12 13:50
techrights-news#Videos and Shows: KDE, GNU, and This Week in Linux • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Videos and Shows: KDE, GNU, and This Week in Linux | Tux MachinesSep 12 13:54
techrights-news#Gnome 3 compare to MacOs • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Gnome 3 compare to MacOs | Tux MachinesSep 12 13:57
MinceR 12 13:58
schestowitz-TRMinceR: useless shit, you can just go anywhere with Bill Gates and spray won't be neededSep 12 13:59
MinceR:>Sep 12 14:02
MinceRi'd rather use the spraySep 12 14:02
schestowitz-TRthat's what she said (melinda)Sep 12 14:03
techrights-newsCommunities of software developers are "toxic", tell us companies that pollute the planet or provide all the technical services to mass polluters that spread thousands of tons of toxins (PER DAY) all across planet. #microsoft #ibm #bayer #monsanto #exxonSep 12 14:08
techrights-newsLinks 12/9/2021: Final Merges in Linux 5.15, GNOME 3 Compared to MacOs • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 12 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 12/9/2021: Final Merges in Linux 5.15, GNOME 3 Compared to MacOs | TechrightsSep 12 14:12
techrights-news#Proprietary #BackDoors and #Privacy Abuses • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #TuxMachinesSep 12 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Proprietary Back Doors and Privacy Abuses | Tux MachinesSep 12 14:13
techrights-news#IBM and #Debian Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 12 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM and Debian Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 12 14:13
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* gives channel operator status to MinceRSep 12 14:26
XRevan86MinceR: It's also my responsibility and it just hangs there in the list as op doing nothing.Sep 12 14:27
MinceRokSep 12 14:28
schestowitzI checked syslog today, after we had installed an agate update; in the process I found that agate logs to it and also includes full URL included, which means we can get Gemini stats by URL.  Not that we would; it would be rather useless and a waste of time, but those logs are rotated out of existence after a week, as they should...Sep 12 14:30
techrights-newsNo, unless you wish to completely de-legitimise the #patent system 12 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Should AI Systems Be Considered As ‘Inventors’ on US Patent Applications?Sep 12 14:33
techrights-newsUnbelievable; the convicted fraudsters (recently) from #marksclerk want to profit from destruction too, via #patents 12 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Patenting for the Decommissioning MarketSep 12 14:34
techrights-news"A #tradesecret is any information used in one's business that derives independent economic value from being kept secret. Unlike #patents , #tradesecrets are protected indefinitely for as long as they remain a secret." 12 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 2021 Mid-Year Review: Key Global Trade Secret Developments - Intellectual Property - WorldwideSep 12 14:36
techrights-newsProfoundly rigged courts, the EPO's BoA or TBA in this case, would of course accept bogus #softwarepatents that no court (that's not rigged by #EPO thugs) would ever accept see 12 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Disambiguation Of Text With An Upper And Lower Case: Technical - Intellectual Property - GermanySep 12 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPO’s Legitimacy | TechrightsSep 12 14:39
techrights-newsMore #patents or #patent #monopolies around #cancer’+Foundational+Patent+for+CISH+Knockout+in+NK+Cells+for+Use+in+Cancer+Therapies/18919347.html 12 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | USPTO Grants ONK Therapeutics’ Foundational Patent for CISH Knockout in NK Cells for Use in Cancer TherapiesSep 12 14:41
techrights-news#TeamUPC keeps lying, for profit, about #UPC , with effectively fake/bogus/false 'news' seeSep 12 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The European Unified Patent Court – Is It Finally Within Reach? - Intellectual Property - European UnionSep 12 14:43
techrights-newsPursuing likely dubious #patents at the #EPO (quality went downhill) and conflating EPO with the #EU , which are not the same thing and are not the same nations, either 12 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Save Foods Granted A Patent For Its Proprietary Compound For The Natural Protection Of Edible MatterSep 12 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SUEPO Representatives Like Elizabeth Hardon Vindicated as Battistelli’s Detrimental Effect on Patent Quality is Widely Confirmed | TechrightsSep 12 14:45
techrights-newsIn some #patent courts, common sense still prevails; #Australia and #SouthAfrica now look desperate for any #patents -- even bogus ones 12 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Only 'natural persons' can be recognized as patent inventors, not AI systems, US judge rules • The RegisterSep 12 14:47
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techrights-newsA guide to #Singapore ’s new #copyright #law 12 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | A guide to Singapore’s new copyright law | Managing Intellectual PropertySep 12 15:41
MinceR 12 15:43
techrights-newsCelebration of #embargo from #litigation zealots who worked for #BristowsLLP and constantly lies about the #UPC for that awful firm so-called #bristowsUPC 12 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | No "German injunction gap" expedition in Abbott v Dexcom global diabetes battle, as Mr Justice Mellor expresses "some regret" - The IPKatSep 12 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bristows LLP - TechrightsSep 12 15:44
techrights-newsAs if the quality of today's #EPO -granted #patents is something worth celebrating all... see 12 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | JW Bioscience to Register Patent on Early Sepsis Diagnosis Technology in Europe - BusinesskoreaSep 12 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SUEPO (Staff Union of EPO): “The Imbalance Between the Importance of (Patent) Quality and Quantity Remains a Cause for Concern” and Only 3% of EPO Staff Has Confidence in President Campinos | TechrightsSep 12 15:46
XRevan86schestowitz: The bot can also be used to transition #boycottnovell-social to #techrights-social, how's that idea? :)Sep 12 15:47
techrights-newsMore #fakepatents or bogus #litigation as #cafc steps in #uspto #patentSep 12 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Federal Circuit Approves of Order to Drop Patents from the Lawsuit to Facilitate Case Management | Patently-OSep 12 15:50
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: names don't  matter that muchSep 12 15:50
schestowitz-TRI've just recorded a long videoSep 12 15:51
schestowitz-TRit mentions what we treidSep 12 15:51
schestowitz-TRor what we consideredSep 12 15:51
schestowitz-TRseems like CLI/ncurses irc ciients sort of make ssh-chat obsolete Sep 12 15:51
schestowitz-TRfor those who know how to use irc anywaySep 12 15:51
schestowitz-TRor weechatSep 12 15:51
techrights-newsGive Your #KDE Plasma Desktop The Wow Factor | Nord Color Pallete - Invidious ⚓ ䷉ #video #gnu #llnuxSep 12 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Give Your KDE Plasma Desktop The Wow Factor | Nord Color Pallete - InvidiousSep 12 15:56
XRevan86> NickServ ( schestowitz is not registered.Sep 12 15:58
techrights-newsArgh... now #slashdot uses Tweets (!!!) as "sources"... downhill that site wentSep 12 16:00
schestowitz-TRthat means no imposters or relatives there...Sep 12 16:01
techrights-news#slashdot rarely covers #linux anymore; when it does, like this afternoon, it's actually all about #apple and #microsoft (!!!) #clickbaitSep 12 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kernel: Linux 5.9, Linux Plumbers Conference and Microsoftication | Tux MachinesSep 12 16:02
MinceR12 164744 < XRevan86> schestowitz: The bot can also be used to transition #boycottnovell-social to #techrights-social, how's that idea? :)Sep 12 16:03
MinceRmight as well be plain #social :>Sep 12 16:03
XRevan86MinceR: Hm, that's true.Sep 12 16:03
XRevan86But ergo probably already has things for renaming channels.Sep 12 16:05
XRevan86+f is there, yep.Sep 12 16:08
MinceR(cat) (no audio) 12 16:12
techrights-news"The court has denied DMF’s mandamus petition on an interesting post-IPR estoppel question." #ptab #uspto #patents #priorart 12 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Post-IPR Estoppel: Printed Publication vs. Actual Product Shown in the Publication | Patently-OSep 12 16:18
techrights-news#taiwan -- like most countries and their courts/ #patent offices -- was not successfully #rickrolled by Mr. #Thaler 12 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | DABUS The AI Is Denied Inventorship In Taiwan - Intellectual Property - TaiwanSep 12 16:20
techrights-news#microsoft boosters push for #patent maximalism, as one might expect... ttps:// see 12 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XIII: A Global ‘IP’ Player | TechrightsSep 12 16:22
techrights-newsTrying to police #socialcontrolmedia (which is all about mass control over people, minds, perception) for corporate brands who does the controlling: 12 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Influencer issues to follow: IP counsel give social media tips | Managing Intellectual PropertySep 12 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Reality is Warped When You Pay for ‘Perception Management’ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | TechrightsSep 12 16:24
techrights-newsOvert conflict of interest. Spreading utter lies and malicious false 'news' for "head of UPC Preparatory Committee" by "Colette Brady and Laura Scott are partners at William Fry." So #litigation firms are pushing complete #lies for profit in so-called 'media' see 12 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Analysis: The European Unified Patent Court – is it finally within reach? | Irish Legal NewsSep 12 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Naming and Shaming ‘Captured’ Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EU’s Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | TechrightsSep 12 16:27
techrights-news"Week highlights: new version of BeeRef available, Inkscape updates, VCV Rack 2 teaser, new PipeWire release, and more." 12 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Libre Arts - Weekly recap — 12 September 2021Sep 12 16:28
MinceR 12 16:31
techrights-news#google has made its malicious browser a nightmare to build/compile/branch off/fork 12 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fscrypt now works in user spotSep 12 16:32
techrights-news#UK splashes out £30m on improving antiquated #patent system, #Deloitte and NTT Data are the lucky winners Deloitte = #Microsoft shills: 12 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | UK splashes out £30m on improving antiquated patent system, Deloitte and NTT Data are the lucky winners • The RegisterSep 12 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Censorship by Microsoft at Medium and Other Web Sites (to Cover Up or Hide Microsoft’s Misconduct) | TechrightsSep 12 16:35
techrights-news"Back in April 2020, the US Patent and Trademark Office decided that only “natural persons” could be considered the inventor of a patent." 12 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Around the Web: Patent Palaver. Lamp Love. Street Smarts. Elastic Enhancement. Smart Specs. Pestering Popups. Verbose Vegetation. Foolish Fowl. Tuneful Typing. Tiffany Tidbits. Good Gander. - WhatTheyThinkSep 12 16:36
techrights-news#RaspberryPi #Firewall : #HowTo Install and Manage it by Using UFW ⚓ ䷉ #linuxiacSep 12 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Raspberry Pi Firewall: How to Install and Manage it by Using UFWSep 12 16:42
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techrights-newsEagerness to make #geminiProtocol all about user input of webforms 12 17:19
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DaemonFCMinceR, Mexicans don't get my puns, I suppose.Sep 12 17:23
DaemonFCWe were at the Mexican grocery store the other day and they had a cooler with fish on ice.Sep 12 17:24
DaemonFCSo I took one of the stock clerks aside and I said "That's a nice cooler. I wonder if it meets the new a fish in sea standards.".Sep 12 17:24
DaemonFCAnd he just blinked at me.Sep 12 17:25
DaemonFCYou try....Sep 12 17:25
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techrights-news#Git Over Gemini Protocol (and Experimental/Preliminary Publication of Some Techrights Code) • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 12 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Git Over Gemini Protocol (and Experimental/Preliminary Publication of Some Techrights Code) | TechrightsSep 12 17:30
XRevan86schestowitz: And another thing to consider: if channels were registered on Libera, they could've had ENTRYMSG with a pointer.Sep 12 17:30
XRevan86"This is an unofficial channel, please go to" or something.Sep 12 17:31
DaemonFCI don't know how cities in Texas are overtaking Chicago.Sep 12 17:43
DaemonFCChicago has one of the best public transit systems in America. Maybe the best.Sep 12 17:44
DaemonFCWhat is there in Texas? The most unreliable energy grid, 127 degree days? 60% larger cities by landmass where you can't get anywhere except in a car, so there's smog and bumper to bumper traffic?Sep 12 17:45
DaemonFCI can barely stand being outside in northern Illinois on the hottest days of summer.Sep 12 17:45
DaemonFCIf you jack up the temperature another 30 degrees I'm going to kick someone's ass if they make me stay outside.Sep 12 17:46
DaemonFCMom was telling me about my aunt going to traffic school in the 90s.Sep 12 17:51
DaemonFCShe said that everyone got a printout telling them why they were sentenced to it, and most people got one page, but there was this one woman that everyone had to wait on because the printer was busy running off like 10 sheets.Sep 12 17:51
DaemonFCThere was one point where my aunt couldn't afford to get her plate renewed and she kept passing by this cop every day that would warn her. Finally, he said, "If I see you go by one more time with an expired plate, I'm going to write you a ticket.".Sep 12 17:52
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DaemonFCSo she asked mom to borrow the plate off the car mom and dad weren't driving very often until payday so she could go down and get hers renewed.Sep 12 17:53
DaemonFCMom said, "Okay, but if they catch you I'm going to have to say you took it off my car without asking me.".Sep 12 17:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, So apparently, one of the reasons you may fail the "Windows 11 upgrade readiness" test is because you're using an old BIOS.Sep 12 18:08
DaemonFCBut if you update to a newer one that can run Windows 11, you risk breaking Windows, or worse, the entire computer.Sep 12 18:08
DaemonFCSo that's nice.Sep 12 18:08
DaemonFCLenovo shipped the ThinkBook 15 ITL Gen2 with something I'd call a beta-quality BIOS.Sep 12 18:09
DaemonFCTo get it out a month sooner.Sep 12 18:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, Did you see that thing where China is studying building a spaceship a little over half a mile long.Sep 12 18:11
DaemonFCI wonder if they'd ever build that. It should be designed to have a rotating section (von Braun wheel) for the crew, if they do.Sep 12 18:12
DaemonFCI think that Babylon 5 was the first Sci Fi TV series to assume that a ship in space may have to have rotating sections if they haven't progressed far enough to control gravitation forces in some other way.Sep 12 18:13
DaemonFCIt was in Sci Fi books much earlier though, and Harlan Ellison wrote some of the episodes.Sep 12 18:14
DaemonFCStar Trek has a long history of plagiarism, but they essentially took a script from Ellison "The City on the Edge of Forever" and rewrote it to where he almost walked away and had them put an "Alan Smithee" type credit on it.Sep 12 18:16
DaemonFCMinceR, Wokeness has infected Sci Fi series that could have been a license to print money.Sep 12 18:16
DaemonFCI don't think I'll even watch anymore new Terminator series movies. They've gotten so stupid since the second one.Sep 12 18:17
DaemonFCJohn Connor and Skynet were supposed to be a closed loop paradox, but Dark Fate violated that.Sep 12 18:18
DaemonFCOnce such a paradox would be broken, it becomes impossible to fulfill.Sep 12 18:18
DaemonFCAnd the only reason they trashed this was so that the savior of humanity would be a Mexican woman.Sep 12 18:19
DaemonFCI think T2 was one of the better Sci Fi movie scripts for a lot of reasons.Sep 12 18:20
DaemonFCEven then I appreciated their commentary on the police.Sep 12 18:20
DaemonFCThis evil robot comes back and immediately assumes the role of a police officer, so nobody would question it and would just mindlessly comply with any request it made.Sep 12 18:20
DaemonFC"Detailed files on human psychology", indeed.Sep 12 18:21
DaemonFC"Assist me in destroying your kind!" No way, get lost asshole. In police uniform: "Oh yeah, he went that way! If you hurry you can still catch him!".Sep 12 18:22
DaemonFCschestowitz, All of these file compression formats are getting out of hand.Sep 12 18:24
DaemonFCDaniel Aleksanderson said that only 0.5% of all web servers were reporting that they only support deflate and that 60% of web servers don't compress anything they send at all.Sep 12 18:25
DaemonFCIt's pretty clear that a lot of people setting one up have no idea what they're doing.Sep 12 18:25
activelownot aware myself what shall be compressed at a web-serverSep 12 18:26
DaemonFCI got our electric bill. This was the worst one yet.Sep 12 18:26
DaemonFC$95Sep 12 18:26
DaemonFCBut we had numerous 100 degree plus days, and the first couple weeks of September are much hotter than they normally are.Sep 12 18:26
activelowDaemonFC: what is the price per kWh?Sep 12 18:26
DaemonFCIf this continues into winter, we're going to have a winter that is more like the ones you would have seen in Atlanta 30 years ago.Sep 12 18:27
DaemonFCJust mildly cold and rainy.Sep 12 18:27
DaemonFC<activelow> DaemonFC: what is the price per kWh?Sep 12 18:27
DaemonFCEh, there's a supply and demand side, and a fixed metering fee, and taxes.Sep 12 18:27
DaemonFCBut I think it said we used 764 kWh or something over the billing month.Sep 12 18:27
activelowDaemonFC: you are using more than three times the amount of electricity than I doSep 12 18:29
activelowDaemonFC: you are using more than three times the amount of electricity than myselfSep 12 18:29
activelowconsuming, alot moreSep 12 18:30
DaemonFCYeah, a lot of it is that damned air conditioner that time forgot that our landlord has in this unit.Sep 12 18:30
DaemonFCThey built them into the wall back in the 1970s.Sep 12 18:30
DaemonFCIt still works, but it's not very efficient.Sep 12 18:30
activelowelectritiy prices in USA seem roughly 30% of germany, very cheap electricitySep 12 18:31
DaemonFCIn the winter, our bill will drop to about $45-60 a month again.Sep 12 18:31
DaemonFCIllinois is awful in a lot of ways, but electricity is cheap, well, there's reasons for that.Sep 12 18:32
DaemonFCIt's not actually cheap.Sep 12 18:32
activelowfar too cheapSep 12 18:32
DaemonFCThe state government has given Exelon/Communist Edison over $2 billion between the last bailout bill and the one that's about to pass.Sep 12 18:32
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activelowimagine if your electricity costs doubled, and even then prices would be considerably lower than german onesSep 12 18:32
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DaemonFCYeah, that would be a disaster.Sep 12 18:33
DaemonFCUnless Mandy got a $1 an hour raise at work to offset it or something.Sep 12 18:33
DaemonFCWhatever they say inflation is that year is what I get, and most employers and the government itself are fine with lying to understate inflation to keep wages and benefits down.Sep 12 18:34
DaemonFCSo they come out most years and say "inflation remains muted at only 2%", and of course your rent goes up 7%, and your food goes up 9%, and nobody can figure out this 2% thing.Sep 12 18:35
activelowcannot cut down on costs here anymoreSep 12 18:35
DaemonFCSubway used to have $5 footlong sandwiches, and now they're $7.99, and occasionally they send out coupons where if you buy 2-3 of them at once it works out to $5.99 each.Sep 12 18:36
DaemonFCSometimes I just go there and buy three and eat off of them for a few days.Sep 12 18:36
DaemonFCIn addition to liberals completely screwing up the labor market and causing mass unemployment....Sep 12 18:37
DaemonFCAnd raising taxes....Sep 12 18:38
DaemonFCThen they come troll restaurants that they don't even eat at and declare that the food is crap and poison because it has ingredients they can't pronounce at the parts per billion level.Sep 12 18:38
DaemonFCAnd so everything goes to shit because of the left.Sep 12 18:38
DaemonFCIf you drink a glass of water (any source) it probably has more contaminants than a sandwich from Subway.Sep 12 18:39
DaemonFCThe type of tuna that they use isn't top shelf stuff, and anyone getting an entire sandwich that big for $5.99 should have known.Sep 12 18:39
DaemonFCBut it won't hurt you.Sep 12 18:39
activelowtwo cans of baked beans, some bacon and bread is roughly 3Euros/daySep 12 18:40
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DaemonFCI put a bit of bacon grease in baked beans.Sep 12 18:41
DaemonFCMaybe a teaspoon or two.Sep 12 18:41
activelowbread + mortadella separator meat sausage is roughly 1.5Euros/day, cannot eat this everydaySep 12 18:42
activelowbest thing was, being sued when working for zero income, with IBM cited as credible source by themSep 12 18:44
DaemonFCYeah, the doctor that costs $450 to talk to for 15 minutes says triple your grocery bill so you won't have high blood pressure.Sep 12 18:44
DaemonFCAmerica.Sep 12 18:44
DaemonFCMaybe I should buy a brand new Cadillac to drive over there in so I can be more confident the car won't break down on the way to get more sage advice.Sep 12 18:44
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Sep 12 18:45
activelowbtw. i submitted my vote early for german national parliament election this year, two weaks early by letterSep 12 18:45
DaemonFCI try to take some of the salt out of what I cook. I really do.Sep 12 18:45
activelowi invalidated the ballot, to prevent I could have made some stupid decisionSep 12 18:46
DaemonFCBut Mandy likes the Chinese restaurant, and I won't lie, so do I, and we both like to eat out if there's a promo going.Sep 12 18:46
DaemonFCIt's impossible to accurately meter your sodium intake if you eat out.Sep 12 18:46
DaemonFCYou have no idea what they do back there.Sep 12 18:46
DaemonFCSome restaurants are saying they'll make token cuts to their sodium levels. Taco Bell has a sodium warning on everything on their menu though.Sep 12 18:47
DaemonFCThey could cut it 15% and it would still be pretty bad.Sep 12 18:47
DaemonFCThese fast food restaurants are pressuring you to get apps now.Sep 12 18:48
DaemonFCThey have coupons, but they'll only slip them through you in a QR code on an app or something.Sep 12 18:49
DaemonFCOtherwise it's $25 for two people to eat McDonalds.Sep 12 18:49
DaemonFCIt's essentially a punishment for not putting an app on your phone, because you get about the same amount of food for $13 if you have an app.Sep 12 18:50
DaemonFC 12 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | UK ditches plans for vaccine passports at crowded venues | WGN-TVSep 12 18:51
DaemonFCschestowitz, If 75% of all Americans already have at least one dose of a vaccine, then why are the numbers even worse now than they were this time last year, when nobody was vaccinated and 20 million fewer people had had COVID and recovered?Sep 12 18:52
DaemonFC 12 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Taliban: Women can study in gender-segregated universities | WGN-TVSep 12 18:53
DaemonFC"I have a great idea on how to make sure there are less homosexuals. Let's put all men in one place and all women in another place.".Sep 12 18:54
DaemonFCIt works great in prisons!Sep 12 18:54
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DaemonFC 12 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 'Overall crime decreased in 2020' in the United States, report findsSep 12 19:09
DaemonFCIgnore all the black people killing each other and setting their own neighborhoods and cars on fire.Sep 12 19:10
DaemonFCCrime went DOWN!Sep 12 19:10
DaemonFCThey also didn't include Wisconsin or Illinois on their list of states.Sep 12 19:11
DaemonFCOr Oregon.Sep 12 19:11
DaemonFCAlso, in Chicago, crime is at its worst level since 1987, if you count raw murder numbers, and the worst since the 1960s when you account for population.Sep 12 19:13
DaemonFCThe last time there were riots in Chicago that required calling in the army, it was black people burning and looting things, and that's why the south side has so many vacant lots today.Sep 12 19:14
DaemonFCThe entire area never recovered economically, and it just stayed so violent that 50 years have gone by without anyone touching it as far as investing in new buildings or something.Sep 12 19:14
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XRevan86Shutting down the bridge.Sep 12 19:39
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XRevan86MinceR: Now I can see that there aren't any actual people there.Sep 12 19:47
XRevan86Except for enyc, whoever that is.Sep 12 19:52
user_I am an actual personSep 12 19:54
XRevan86user_: jkl? ebin?Sep 12 19:55
user_i am confusedSep 12 19:57
user_nmSep 12 19:57
MinceRenyc is someone who likes to pester people who are already on illibera to move to illibera :>Sep 12 19:58
MinceRi don't know jkl or ebinSep 12 19:58
XRevan86MinceR: Well, at least that was an actual person :).Sep 12 19:58
MinceRiirc phobos does sometimes show up on the other sideSep 12 19:58
XRevan86Whatever, I casted all three.Sep 12 19:58
XRevan86MinceR: Haven't in a while.Sep 12 19:58
user_i am none of those peopleSep 12 19:59
user_i am just hereSep 12 19:59
XRevan86user_: Right, I got it, just confusion over what exactly I was talking about.Sep 12 19:59
MinceRlol @ that passive aggressive message from XRevan86 on leenodeSep 12 20:00
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MinceRXFaCE: is Tox working for you now?Sep 12 20:26
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DaemonFCA bunch of Mexicans are having a parade downtown where they've completely fucked up traffic so they can drive around in stupid tricked out SUVs with the Mexican flag on them, throwing trash everywhere and shuffling around in the street.Sep 12 21:10
DaemonFCIllinois can't pass a law that makes it a crime to openly wonder why these people are allowed to forget what country they're in and trash ours when more than half aren't even here legally.Sep 12 21:11
DaemonFCBut it would if it could. Glad we're not in Europe.Sep 12 21:11
DaemonFCschestowitz, The Mexican government doesn't let you stay there unless you can prove income of $1,900 a month because it doesn't want people being drains on the state.Sep 12 21:14
DaemonFCI've heard there's a way around this.Sep 12 21:14
DaemonFCYou can get unlimited 180 day tourist visas from the Mexican government and you don't have to prove anything.Sep 12 21:14
DaemonFCYou just exit the country and then come back and get your US passport stamped again on day 180.Sep 12 21:15
DaemonFCBut yes, even Mexico has immigration and public charge laws, and they enforce theirs.Sep 12 21:15
DaemonFCNot allowed to say that though.Sep 12 21:15
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DaemonFCMinceR, It would be more cost effective for Orban to say that the illegal immigrants can't stay in Hungary, but if you'll get on these buses, we'll take you to the border between us and the people who won't pay for our fence.Sep 12 21:19
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DaemonFCAfter all, if paying for a fence isn't a priority, they won't mind these people sleeping on their couch for a while.Sep 12 21:20
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MinceRDaemonFC: those aren't just "people who won't pay for our fence", those are people who want to receive and employ those immigrantsSep 12 21:47
MinceRthis is apparently very hard for orban's fan club to understandSep 12 21:47
MinceRorban keeps triggering them with "immigrants" while nobody with even half a brain would want to live in this shithole anywaySep 12 21:47
XRevan86schestowitz: needs adjustment.Sep 12 21:48
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DaemonFCOf course some people want to employ them.Sep 12 21:49
DaemonFCIt depresses wages because it increases unemployment.Sep 12 21:49
MinceRsomeone who has the appropriate access (which is probably schestowitz) might want to change the topics on freenode as wellSep 12 21:49
DaemonFCWhich Europe already struggles with in many places, like Greece.Sep 12 21:50
DaemonFCThe black youth unemployment rate in Chicago is over 40%.Sep 12 21:50
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: what change?Sep 12 21:50
MinceRDaemonFC: there are lots of jobs the people who live in west europe don't _want_ to doSep 12 21:50
XRevan86MinceR: Considering the aliveness of the network, that's not necessary.Sep 12 21:50
DaemonFCMeanwhile, the state tells illegal immigrants to just come in here and we'll ignore whatever they do.Sep 12 21:50
XRevan86schestowitz: The bridge was put down.Sep 12 21:50
DaemonFCThat's not only causing wages to go down, it's leaving those young people with nothing legal to do for cash and a lot of time on their hands.Sep 12 21:51
XRevan86schestowitz: So techrights is now fully consolidated.Sep 12 21:51
MinceRof course you'll ignore whatever they do when it's economically preferable to do soSep 12 21:51
activelowMinceR: unverified immigrants wanted to do themSep 12 21:51
XRevan86Well, it was before, but now that page should reflect that.Sep 12 21:51
XRevan86MinceR, CrystalMath: I do wonder, do nicknames expire on 12 21:52
MinceRwhat's an "unverified immigrant"? "we don't know for sure whether they've immigrated or not"?Sep 12 21:52
CrystalMathXRevan86: yeah it says 1 yearSep 12 21:52
activelowMinceR: german population increased by millions, because of immigration, nonetheless workforce shortage is reportedSep 12 21:52
DaemonFCMinceR, That's the thing.Sep 12 21:52
MinceR12 225248 [freenode2] -NickServ( Accounts that are not used anymore are subject toSep 12 21:52
DaemonFCBack when there weren't programs, my grandfather took a job digging ditches, because he had to.Sep 12 21:53
activelowMinceR: it isn't verified immigrants would want to do the jobsSep 12 21:53
MinceR12 225248 [freenode2] -NickServ( the automatic expiration, i.e. they will be deletedSep 12 21:53
MinceR12 225248 [freenode2] -NickServ( after 365 days if not used.Sep 12 21:53
MinceRdunno if this reflects an actual setting thoughSep 12 21:53
XRevan86MinceR, CrystalMath: I see, so in like 11 months the channels will disappear.Sep 12 21:53
DaemonFCMaybe if the government just had "enhanced" unemployment going on forever, he wouldn't have done that job, and then some asshole would have been all like "some immigrant will do it!".Sep 12 21:53
activelowmany do, but i doubt there is any statistical disbalance between natives and immigrants, maybe even immigrants work less than nativesSep 12 21:53
schestowitzI have removed "The channels are all bridged across to our network."Sep 12 21:53
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DaemonFCPeople would take undesirable jobs vs. no money at all, but it's not a choice they're faced with.Sep 12 21:53
XRevan86schestowitz: Why keep the mention?Sep 12 21:54
schestowitz-TRlegacySep 12 21:54
schestowitz-TRI'll remove that one day...Sep 12 21:54
XRevan86schestowitz: So newcomers should know about that?Sep 12 21:54
schestowitz-TRbad timingSep 12 21:55
schestowitz-TRI'm stuck with other issues atmSep 12 21:55
XRevan86People can go to for legacy.Sep 12 21:56
DaemonFCIllinois: "Just sit here and smoke dispensary pot all day and collect food stamps and unemployment checks. Don't worry about paying your landlord. Ryan and Mandy will do that when they get a rent hike in a few weeks.".Sep 12 21:57
MinceRDaemonFC: if there really are masses of voters living in places like germany who don't want immigrants, they can make a difference with their votesSep 12 21:57
activelowthe cannot, not at least the facts are known, such as population size increased alot in germany, because of immigration, with the argument this prevented workforce shortage and secured pension fundsSep 12 21:59
activelowwhile both failed, pension funds are not secured, and workforce shortage is reported regardless of a dozen million immigrantsSep 12 21:59
activelowTHIS is what politicians do not saySep 12 21:59
MinceRin any case, it is not hungary's job to enforce immigration policies for other countries that the governments of those countries don't want enforcedSep 12 21:59
MinceRand it is even less hungary's duty to live in constant hysteria because of alleged immigrants that don't want to live in hungarySep 12 22:00
activelowhungary is a member of the schengen agreement, to secure european borders, and this is what orban did, in compliance with EU, not in opposition to itSep 12 22:00
MinceRor to have people beat up other people because of the color of their skin or some other bullshit like that because "oh no, immigrants"Sep 12 22:00
MinceRmaybe we should trade placesSep 12 22:01
MinceRin any case, afaik the situation with the EU regulations is not as simple as orban likes to claimSep 12 22:01
activelowwrong, it is simple: schengen agreement to allow free roaming inside EU depends on EU borders protected to the outside, this was the principleSep 12 22:02
activelow*fromSep 12 22:02
activelownot saying i have any opinion on this, nonetheless this is a *fact*Sep 12 22:02
activelowdemographics, immigration, and social spendings data in germany are a fact tooSep 12 22:03
MinceR"protected to the outside" means "build a chicken wire fence on the border and beat up the people that do get in"?Sep 12 22:03
activelowand it isn't complicated either, in the last decades dozens of millions immigrated, many illegally under false pretence, population size increased (not decreased), and workforce shortage is reportedSep 12 22:04
activelowbecause, *immigrants* don't want to do the jobsSep 12 22:04
MinceRthen they can leave or starveSep 12 22:04
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: true.Sep 12 22:05
schestowitz-TRI will revisit that laterSep 12 22:05
schestowitz-TRmaybe we'll bridge to something else..Sep 12 22:05
activelowwrong again, under the false pretence of "refugee" instead of "illegal immigration" this is legalized by "Geneva refugee convention", which you may like or not, this too is a factSep 12 22:05
schestowitz-TRthe whole situation iss frustratingSep 12 22:06
schestowitz-TRhalf the users of freenode never moved to what was supposed to replace itSep 12 22:06
schestowitz-TR90k -> 46mSep 12 22:06
schestowitz-TR&kSep 12 22:07
XRevan86schestowitz: At least some of those users were bridged puppets though.Sep 12 22:07
XRevan86the Matrix bridged users have to manually move as wellSep 12 22:07
schestowitz-TRyeah...Sep 12 22:07
schestowitz-TRmatrix users never participated much anywaySep 12 22:08
XRevan86schestowitz: I wonder where scientes had gone to.Sep 12 22:08
schestowitz-TRyeah, one example...Sep 12 22:09
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schestowitz-TRlots of people lost because of the 'emperor'Sep 12 22:09
XRevan86He ♥ IRCSep 12 22:09
MinceR:>Sep 12 22:09
schestowitz-TRis he on some other network?Sep 12 22:10
DaemonFC<activelow> the cannot, not at least the facts are known, such as population size increased alot in germany, because of immigration, with the argument this prevented workforce shortage and secured pension fundsSep 12 22:10
DaemonFCOur pensions are not funded and nobody works.Sep 12 22:10
XRevan86schestowitz: I just wrote "check" to scientes on Libera and got an away message o_0Sep 12 22:10
DaemonFCSo we'll fix it by taking in a bunch of people from the third world that already couldn't figure out how to run a pension fund and need us to build their houses while they stare at us.Sep 12 22:10
XRevan86I guess he just isn't registered.Sep 12 22:10
activelowDaemonFC: pension fund and labor market in USA and Germany differ slightlySep 12 22:11
activelowpopulation size of USA increased more execessively than germany'sSep 12 22:11
activelowgood luck with thatSep 12 22:11
activelowit is only a question which region collapses firstSep 12 22:12
activelowtheory was conflict would spread from peripheral regions into Europe (and similarly USA) into developed economic centersSep 12 22:13
activelowand after a few decades strong economies collapse, with civil war scenarios, once social security which tampered outrage ceasesSep 12 22:14
MinceR 12 22:15
XRevan86schestowitz: De-facto Libera is that legacy where all the people are that didn't move over here.Sep 12 22:16
MinceRthe legacy that never wasSep 12 22:16
MinceRalternative history :>Sep 12 22:16
XRevan86MinceR: For the glory of his medicinal highness!Sep 12 22:17
MinceRmedicinal?Sep 12 22:20
XRevan86and the oldest totally still existing stateSep 12 22:20
XRevan86MinceR: How to say "drug-induced" in one word?Sep 12 22:20
MinceRJoseon hasn't existed for centuriesSep 12 22:20
MinceRdunnoSep 12 22:20
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XRevan86The drug being Naruto.Sep 12 22:22
DaemonFCEhhez több fokhagyma kell. Élelmet készít a kutyájának? Sep 12 22:28
DaemonFC:)Sep 12 22:28
DaemonFCHopefully it got that right.Sep 12 22:28
XRevan86DaemonFC: Looks ugric.Sep 12 22:29
DaemonFCGoogle Translate has some bad fails, but that should be Hungarian for "This needs more garlic. Are you making food for your dog?".Sep 12 22:29
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DaemonFCYOu can never have enough garlic.Sep 12 22:29
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MinceRthe translation is correctSep 12 22:46
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DaemonFCI often double the recipe's garlic.Sep 12 22:56
schestowitz-TR:-0Sep 12 22:56
DaemonFCIt's really hard to go too far on that.Sep 12 22:57
DaemonFCWell, with fresh garlic or minced, but with powder it's actually quite easy to go way too far.Sep 12 22:57
DaemonFCDry spices usually go 4 or 5 times further than fresh.Sep 12 22:57
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schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: NOW we're om topic !! ;-)Sep 12 23:14
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DaemonFCMatrix now bridges to Libera Chat.Sep 12 23:38
DaemonFCWhat a mess.Sep 12 23:38
DaemonFCSo you can have another layer of assholes interpreting a code of conduct.Sep 12 23:39
DaemonFC 12 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | On Power to the People - freenodeSep 12 23:39
DaemonFCLOLSep 12 23:39
schestowitz-TRPIASep 12 23:43
schestowitz-TRfreedumbtechSep 12 23:43
XRevan86"now" – literally since JuneSep 12 23:48
XRevan86DaemonFC: This post is beginning of August, how did ye miss it?Sep 12 23:49
DaemonFCBecause I don't pay them much attention anymore.Sep 12 23:50
DaemonFCIt seems the push to eliminate English in China is so that people who make it past the firewall can't read anything from countries with press freedom.Sep 12 23:51
DaemonFC 12 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Beachfront Property Taken From Black Family In 1920s May Soon Be Returned : NPRSep 12 23:52
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: seems like -socialSep 12 23:53
XRevan86DaemonFC: It's just that it was mentioned here like 10 times.Sep 12 23:53
DaemonFCI'm sure that once it returns to the property tax rolls, they'll be able to hang on to it.Sep 12 23:53
schestowitz-TRdon't interject race issues into hereSep 12 23:53
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: those blog posts never aged gracefullySep 12 23:53
schestowitz 12 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Samsung Galaxy S21 FE could have microSD support after all - NewsSep 12 23:55
XRevan86schestowitz: They seem to be of the same quality as when first released. Except that all the ambition went *poof*Sep 12 23:55
schestowitz-TRNote 9Sep 12 23:56
schestowitz-TRwent poof on planes, tooSep 12 23:56
schestowitz 12 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Windows 11's File Explorer has serious usability issues - gHacks Tech NewsSep 12 23:57
XRevan86I expected some more great breakages, but instead literally nothing was done.Sep 12 23:57
schestowitzit has worse issues than thisSep 12 23:57
schestowitzdoes it still push ADS?Sep 12 23:57
schestowitzanything to keep Service Pack '11' in some headlines?Sep 12 23:57
schestowitzfaked, manufactured hypeSep 12 23:57
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schestowitz"it's coming, it's coming!"Sep 12 23:57
schestowitz" The Galaxy Note 10 Lite, for example, launched with a 3.5mm jack after the Note 10 ditched the port, but it never really meant much in the long run, as Samsung still cut the headphone jack from subsequent flagship phones. "Sep 12 23:58

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