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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it does progressJun 14 00:00
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but not for usJun 14 00:00
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] the rich pay less tax over timeJun 14 00:00
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] All of Disney's good stuff is in the distant past.Jun 14 00:00
kingoffranceyes, good to be more specific (not agreeing or disagreeing there, but nuance is what is lost with the myth)Jun 14 00:00
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] we now have like FIVE brands of listening devicesJun 14 00:00
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] PROGRESSJun 14 00:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] INNOVA~1Jun 14 00:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] quite moaning, buy smart thingJun 14 00:01
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] It's cheaper to find a VCR and tapes (or DVDs) for your kids. There's all the good stuff you'd get to show them on Disney+ which you'll forget to cancel and will just be another monthly bill.Jun 14 00:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] any time moaning is time wastes on potential shoppingJun 14 00:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] cons0000merismJun 14 00:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] *WastedJun 14 00:01
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Parents used to just swap copied Disney tapes that they made at home with each other at work so they wouldn't have to go out and spend like $30 a pop on them (and that was when $30 was worth what $60 is now!).Jun 14 00:02
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] There was still a Disney then and they still made money despite all the people renting and copying tapes on the sneakernet. Which was basically a low rent bittorrent of the 1980s and 90s.Jun 14 00:03
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] How did they manage?Jun 14 00:03
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] now we have CIA torture by womenJun 14 00:03
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] torture goodJun 14 00:03
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's emancipating peopleJun 14 00:03
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] mjg59 was enabling government agencies to waterboard people. (They have to find the people to waterboard first.) Also, kids in cages.Jun 14 00:04
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] But a woman felt she was hired beneath her skills and gets a shout out on his personal Shitter.Jun 14 00:04
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] ooh, extreme sportsJun 14 00:05
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] I remember the Uncle Remus song from Song of the South because Disney put it on one of their soundtrack tapes in the 90s.Jun 14 00:06
techrights-bot#Linux 5.13-rc6 โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152257Jun 14 00:06
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Dad liked to play Disney songs in the car.Jun 14 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13-rc6 | Tux MachinesJun 14 00:06
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] You probably can't find it on Youtube because Disney would just say they owned it and that would be the end of that.Jun 14 00:06
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tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Maybe the only place this title will live on is over pirate sites.Jun 14 00:07
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tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] They're mostly sitting on a bunch of great stuff from the 20th century and some theme parks, and not a hell of a lot else. They make huge budget Star Wars movies each year where you'd figure they would stop once someone pointed out they were making the same exact movies and changing the setting a little.Jun 14 00:08
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] And they're ruining the theme parks to placate some asswipes like Garrett.Jun 14 00:09
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] (Who probably don't even go."Jun 14 00:09
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] But, convincing companies you don't go to, to piss off their actual customers, and ruin themselves, is sort of his specialty.Jun 14 00:09
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] I think the latest thing at Disney was you can't depict pirates auctioning off a woman.Jun 14 00:10
techrights-botLinux 5.13-rc6 โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152257Jun 14 00:10
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Piracy is being reframed as a good thing.Jun 14 00:11
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] anti-establishmentJun 14 00:11
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] BLM is a pirate group. If they did what they did at sea it would fall under sea piracy.Jun 14 00:11
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] even hollywood lobbies expressed concerns about thataJun 14 00:11
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] gnJun 14 00:11
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] I'm not pirating movies. I'm getting reparations for them benefiting from my tax money while they pay none.Jun 14 00:12
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] "piracy" was always a good thingJun 14 00:14
BaronVladimirHarI doubt any blacks are actually outraged about Song of the South.Jun 14 00:15
BaronVladimirHarIt was more likely mjg59 getting offended for them.Jun 14 00:16
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] somebody asked something for me in here?  i was taking a napJun 14 00:16
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] it has been a little warm during the day, so i have been sleeping during the dayJun 14 00:16
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] Ariadne: leah had some issues with registering a NickServ account -- it seems like she ended up registered and identified without her knowledgeJun 14 00:17
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] i tried to guess how it happened, but i don't know ergo wellJun 14 00:18
BaronVladimirHarTurn on the air conditioner.Jun 14 00:18
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] lolJun 14 00:18
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] MinceR: likely the ircv3 REGISTER extensionJun 14 00:18
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] yeah, that definitely sounds like something i was unaware of :>Jun 14 00:18
tr-bridge[leah/tr] yeah i'm already registeredJun 14 00:27
tr-bridge[leah/tr] but i didn't registerJun 14 00:27
tr-bridge[leah/tr] so i don't know my passwordJun 14 00:27
tr-bridge[leah/tr] i think basically as soon as you name to a given nick, that nick becomes registeredJun 14 00:28
tr-bridge[leah/tr] ah, maybe.... maybe if i'm already registered, i can simply change my password?Jun 14 00:28
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] leah: If the client supplied the password then it has to have it.Jun 14 00:29
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tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] testingJun 14 00:39
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] they're actually back? with the same message no less?Jun 14 00:45
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] indeed.Jun 14 00:48
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] they've been doing this to other networks in the intervening timeJun 14 00:48
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I think there was a netsplit on freenode?Jun 14 01:44
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] Is the bridge okay now?Jun 14 01:44
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MinceRthere was a netsplit, the bridge seems okJun 14 01:47
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] I restarted it just in case.Jun 14 02:05
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Okay, and now I can't see anything in here on Matrix.Jun 14 02:07
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] This is swell. Thanks to Liberal Chat this whole thing is fucked.Jun 14 02:07
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: Matrix got netsplittedJun 14 02:08
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: And putting sole blame on them is something I strongly disagree with.Jun 14 02:09
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leahgod, fucking, damnJun 14 02:52
leahtoday was insaneJun 14 02:52
leahi needed to say that, somewhere publicJun 14 02:52
leahlet's see who was pinging me. this is the last chan i'm checking, before bedJun 14 02:53
leahoh meJun 14 02:53
leahoh myJun 14 02:54
leahgreatJun 14 02:54
leahgood jobJun 14 02:54
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AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2021/06/14/ibm_discontinues_ladder_sales/Jun 14 03:04
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MinceRgood thing i never wanted to buy a ladder from ibmJun 14 03:13
AdmFubaror a small hydraulic liftJun 14 03:15
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: Besides, I think we both know that a network such as freenode would've lived through just by being too big to fail.Jun 14 03:17
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] But it's not easy managing a big network, and instead of making a smooth transition the new staff and rasengan have decided that they want things to go their way.Jun 14 03:22
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] Was it so hard to maintain the status quo for like two months, to familiarise with the network, to overcome challenges and get experience? Instead they almost immediately started messing with things.Jun 14 03:24
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] Libera cannot be blamed for freenode under rasengan shooting itself in foot time and time again making participants justifiably feel unsafe.Jun 14 03:26
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] And so it will fade into obscurity and techrights will stop having a Matrix presence permanently.Jun 14 03:29
AdmFubarhttps://hackaday.com/2021/06/13/sawdust-printer-goes-against-the-grain-by-working-with-wood-waste/Jun 14 03:36
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AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2021/06/14/rachid_yazami_the_future_of_ev_batteries/Jun 14 03:44
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tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/how-disney-tried-and-failed-to-remove-song-of-the-south-from-historyJun 14 05:20
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Wall-E was actually their best Pixar movie.Jun 14 05:43
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] It didn't pick on anyone by race, it just mostly pointed out that humans are here to spew pollution and trash and more humans to do the same thing until the Earth is an uninhabitable rock.Jun 14 05:43
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Maybe even prophetic. SOME might get to leave and start a colony, if they pay Elon enough.Jun 14 05:44
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gustafXRevan86: I think it's importatn to note that "IRC" hsa many subcultures, and Freenode was one. It was more stable, more mature etc etc. Sounds like Lee was more used to the more anarchic forms of IRCJun 14 06:11
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/ is the last bit of reporting i intend to do on this irc shitJun 14 06:16
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] as far as iโ€™m concerned freenode is done as for its original purposeJun 14 06:17
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] you canโ€™t back away from kicking the FSF off the networkJun 14 06:17
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tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] projects should have self hosted from the startJun 14 06:20
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] had projects hosted their own IRC environments this would never have happenedJun 14 06:20
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Mozilla did and then they shut it down to move to Matrix.org, where their users can be banned easily and for no reason.Jun 14 06:22
phanesnah this still would have been an inevitabilityJun 14 06:24
phanesthe core problem is crossover authorityJun 14 06:24
phanespeople with what's called a high "betweenness centrality"Jun 14 06:24
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phanesif you don't take the narcissist and ego problems in your communities seriously you will always have power strugglesJun 14 06:25
phanesand its never good for the usersJun 14 06:25
phanessure you guys deal with non-authorities with those problems sometimes but its the people in charge that you don't hold accountable that are behind the problems that come up thereJun 14 06:25
phanesyou've all got to be willing to take hits and losses to remove those kinds of peopleJun 14 06:26
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tr-bridge[job/tr] phanes: I thought you support the FSF?Jun 14 06:26
phanesi do support the FSFJun 14 06:26
tr-bridge[job/tr] It seems you just supported RMS in order to gain glory to yourselfJun 14 06:26
phaneswell that's a shitty thing to say to someoneJun 14 06:27
phanesRMS has his flaws, but the GPL is the reason we don't have to swipe our credit cards to log into our PC's.  It is foundational to just about everything we know and love.Jun 14 06:28
phanesWhat I'd like to see is him set up some kind of assurance of perepetuity of the GPL that does not depend on him so he can retire.Jun 14 06:28
phanesThat way if he gets hit by a bus or something we don't have to get facebook's approval to continue developmentJun 14 06:29
phanesAnd my issue with the anti-RMS campaign was more or less surrounding the nature of the campaign itself -- its methods, its modes of operation, the deliberate lying and smearing of someone's reputation in a formula that has been used too many times to not now result in serious consequences for the people who execute it.Jun 14 06:30
phanesIt is a vulnerability in western society that is being repeatedly exploited at great harm.Jun 14 06:33
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phanesSo much so that it is being weaponized for corporate interest.Jun 14 06:42
phanesYou need to stop these people and you need to create social structures that prevent them from hurting people anymore.Jun 14 06:42
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phanesIf someone were to outline a plan that crosses foss projects to stop this type of thing that was credible and that I believed I could rely on I would immediately resign.Jun 14 06:42
phanesOpen challenge.  Mull it over.Jun 14 06:42
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schestowitzchaotic night for IRCJun 14 06:45
schestowitzeven the cron job could not generate things and make bulletins etc.Jun 14 06:45
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schestowitz[01:43] <XRevan86> > (23:13:19) Joanna: I just got banned from freenode for using IRCCloud..Jun 14 06:52
schestowitz[01:43] <XRevan86> CrystalMath: cool stuff in ##sqlite %)Jun 14 06:52
schestowitzLost in the netsplit, am comparing...Jun 14 06:52
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] OK, I think only those two lined did not make it across the bridge, I have checked all the restJun 14 06:56
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] netsplit'ed logs compared, twice over even. I had to rerun some jobs and do lots of things manually because of all this turbulence.... took nearly half an hourJun 14 07:04
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] uploading the new ipfs index nowJun 14 07:04
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Updated http://techrights.org/ipfs/bulletins.htmlJun 14 07:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Over a megabyte of logs yesterday http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130621.htmlJun 14 07:11
schestowitzipfs working again, but some IRC messages were missed. hopefully all back to normal tonight/next runJun 14 07:14
gustafphanes: I spent 17 years on Freenode without having to worry that what I said or did in a channel (or elsehwere) would bring staff down on me, or that channelJun 14 07:20
gustafthat's the value Freenode provided: a drama free place to discuss free softwareJun 14 07:21
schestowitzI know what you meanJun 14 07:21
schestowitzI lost so many hours this past monthJun 14 07:21
schestowitzI just want to cover patent thingsJun 14 07:21
schestowitznot mess around with bots and things and check IRC thingsJun 14 07:21
gustafyeah, I'm a user, not someone in a role of responsibility, and it's still been stressfulJun 14 07:22
gustafif, also, entertaining in a weird wayJun 14 07:22
gustafbut I feel sorry for those who just want ot manage communitiesJun 14 07:22
schestowitzwell, you say entertainingJun 14 07:23
schestowitzbecause you are not a direct stakeholderJun 14 07:23
schestowitzonly indirectJun 14 07:23
gustafphanes: ysJun 14 07:23
gustafdangJun 14 07:23
schestowitzfor me, personally, TONS of time down the drainJun 14 07:23
schestowitzand for some free software project lost time codingJun 14 07:23
gustafschestowitz: I understand, and I sympathizeJun 14 07:23
schestowitzfor me also publishing of articlesJun 14 07:23
schestowitzI am starting to write at the momentJun 14 07:23
gustafI don't try to stir shit for the sake of more dramaJun 14 07:23
schestowitzI spent the past 60 minutes just doing damage control from this overnight issueJun 14 07:24
schestowitzbut like I said before, self-hosting IRC was an ambition since last yearJun 14 07:24
schestowitzbefore all the dramaJun 14 07:24
schestowitzinc. freenode staff signing an RMS hate letterJun 14 07:24
activelowironically the new jurisdiction chosen in sweden could prevent such a defamation campaignJun 14 07:26
gustafschestowitz: that "drama" had zero impact on me or the channels I frequented at FreenodeJun 14 07:26
schestowitznot sure aboyt thatJun 14 07:26
gustafthis HN comment says it best https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27497168Jun 14 07:26
schestowitzthe issue was not defamation Jun 14 07:26
gustaf``I don't think the people leaving are doing so because of who is in charge (modulo random channel seizures). They're leaving because because they don't want to worry about who is in charge.''Jun 14 07:27
activelowsince in sweden spreading defamation with the intend to harm a person, his family and busines is illegal, even if based on factsJun 14 07:27
schestowitzthe issue was a control-related disputeJun 14 07:27
gustafactivelow: what case is this? Jun 14 07:27
schestowitzhmmm... why is the links bot not working?Jun 14 07:28
schestowitzanother thing to investigateJun 14 07:28
activelowgustaf: i didn't follow the RMS drama since i am not interested in gossip. i had only noticed swedish legislation which applied with the newly founded network would sanction such a defamation campaignJun 14 07:28
gustafI;m a Swede and I don't agree with that assessment Jun 14 07:32
gustafdefamation is hard to prove in SwedenJun 14 07:33
gustafespecially against a public figure like RMSJun 14 07:33
gustafanyway, the status of an IRC network as a "publication" in Swedish law is nebulousJun 14 07:33
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitzJun 14 07:34
gustafi have a really hard time imagining how the status of the the Libera "foundation" as an "ideell fรถrening" could in any way facilitate any sort of defamation campaign against anyoneJun 14 07:34
*schestowitz gives voice to techrights-bot techrights-ipfs TechrightsBot-trJun 14 07:34
schestowitztest http://example.orgJun 14 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-example.org | Example DomainJun 14 07:35
schestowitzOK, I think MinceR put rules in placeJun 14 07:35
gustafit's just a legal person holding the rights to the name etc Jun 14 07:35
schestowitzanyway, I could use a break from this drama... doing an article about Hungary ATMJun 14 07:35
gustafafkJun 14 07:36
schestowitzMinceR: http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/Jun 14 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice โ€” Part 6: Best Buddies With Antรณnio | TechrightsJun 14 07:51
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] "I got banned from #slackware in like 5 minutes or something.  I pleaded for forgiveness, in the way redolent of a middle schooler.  And eventually, I got unbanned and stuck around for a while.  That was my first experience with IRC."Jun 14 08:04
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/Jun 14 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | the end of freenode โ€“ Ariadne's SpaceJun 14 08:04
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] so ariadne is younger than I assumedJun 14 08:04
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I think I was 13 or 14 when I accessed dalnetJun 14 08:04
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] with a bunch of idiots doing floods and abuse every now and thenJun 14 08:05
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and with colour supportJun 14 08:05
gustafI only started using IRC in my early 30sJun 14 08:05
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] "For a few years, all was well, until the end of July 2002, when DALnet started being the target of Distributed Denial of Service attacks.  We would of course, later find out that these attacks were at the request of Jason Michael Downey (Nessun), who had just launched a competing IRC network called Rizon."Jun 14 08:05
gustafand I understand Freenode was much calmer than early IRCJun 14 08:05
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I may need to rewrite my code to be more robust to IRC downtimesJun 14 08:06
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] as happened last night in freenodeJun 14 08:07
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: gmJun 14 08:07
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] nice blog postJun 14 08:07
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] am reading it rnJun 14 08:07
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/8-Ficsor-Lecture-2010.pptJun 14 08:07
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] (ppt warning)Jun 14 08:08
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] "In early 2006, lilo launched his Spinhome project.  Spinhome was a fundraising effort so that lilo could get a mobile home to replace the double-wide trailer he had been living in.  Some people saw him trying to fundraise while being the owner of freenode as a conflict of interest, which lead to a falling out with a lot of staffers, projects, etc.  OFTC went from being a small n <clipped message>Jun 14 08:09
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] etwork to a much larger network during this time."Jun 14 08:09
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] didn't know OFTC was that oldJun 14 08:09
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I think our objective should be to make more IRCd installsJun 14 08:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] then make better ways to connect themJun 14 08:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] a sort of "fediverse" of IRCJun 14 08:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] scrollback is another challengeJun 14 08:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] because of the relay natureJun 14 08:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] nntp doesn't have that issue eitherJun 14 08:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] we now have http://techrights.org/ircJun 14 08:10
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] so if people drop offline for whatever reason they can catch up with what was missedJun 14 08:11
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] "Jun 14 08:11
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Self-hosting is really what makes IRC great: you can run your own server for your community and not be beholden to anyone else.  As far as IRC goes, thatโ€™s the future I feel motivated to build.Jun 14 08:11
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] This concludes my coverage of the freenode meltdown.  I hope people enjoyed it and also understand why freenode was important to me: without liloโ€˜s decision to take a chance on a dumbfuck kid like myself, I wouldnโ€™t have ever really gotten as deeply involved in FOSS as I have, so to see what has happened has left me heartbroken.Jun 14 08:11
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] "Jun 14 08:12
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] yes, self-hosting is the way forwardJun 14 08:12
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] servers are very powerful now compared to ircdJun 14 08:12
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] so even a little vps or sbc can doJun 14 08:12
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–‡โ–ƒโ–โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–†โ–ƒโ–‡โ–ƒโ–†โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–„โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 28.96 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 52.11โ–• swarm size (avg): 244.94  โŸฒJun 14 08:22
techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152260Jun 14 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 14 08:39
techrights-botAudiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Free Software Security, ActivityWatch, Linus Torvalds, and GNU World Order โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152259Jun 14 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Free Software Security, ActivityWatch, Linus Torvalds, and GNU World Order | Tux MachinesJun 14 08:40
techrights-bot#LinuxActionNews 193 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145292/linux-action-news-193/ #gnu #linuxJun 14 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 193 | Jupiter BroadcastingJun 14 08:58
techrights-bot2008 #EPO video, predating the Benoรฎt #Battistelli EPO regime Classic: Old EPO Strike โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/13/classic-old-epo-strike/ ไท‰ #Techrights #patents #swpats | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/13/classic-old-epo-strike/Jun 14 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Classic: Old EPO Strike | TechrightsJun 14 08:58
techrights-botVirtual Injustice โ€” Part 6: Best Buddies With #AntรณnioCampinos http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ #epo #europe #hungary #euipoJun 14 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice โ€” Part 6: Best Buddies With Antรณnio | TechrightsJun 14 08:58
techrights-bot"Josh and Kurt talk about why it seems like the world of #ransomware has gotten out of control in the last few weeks. Every day thereโ€™s some new and more bizarre ransomware story than we had yesterday." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/06/13/episode-275-what-in-the-is-going-on-with-ransomware/Jun 14 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 275 โ€“ What in the @#$% is going on with ransomware? โ€“ Open Source SecurityJun 14 08:59
techrights-botthe end of #freenode https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/ reflections on #irc ... tl;dr people/proejcts/orgs should #selfHost IRC.Jun 14 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | the end of freenode โ€“ Ariadne's SpaceJun 14 08:59
techrights-bot#Softwarepatents #litigation #profiteer #MichaelBorella is losing his mind because #fakepatents that USPTO should never have granted get tossed out (expensive, but justice at the end) https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/yu-v-apple-fed-cir-2021.htmlJun 14 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Yu v. Apple (Fed. Cir. 2021)Jun 14 08:59
techrights-bot#Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, June 13, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextJun 14 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesJun 14 09:00
techrights-botBas Nieuwenhuizen: Making Reading from #VRAM less Catastrophic https://www.basnieuwenhuizen.nl/making-reading-from-vram-less-catastrophic/ #linux #graphics #mesa #programmingJun 14 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.basnieuwenhuizen.nl | Making Reading from VRAM less Catastrophic โ€“ Bas Nieuwenhuizen โ€“ Open Source GPU DriversJun 14 09:00
techrights-bot#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingJun 14 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexJun 14 09:00
techrights-botBenoรฎt Battistelli, Antรณnio Campinos, and the Hungarian link of the EPO โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ ไท‰ #Techrights #EPO | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/Jun 14 09:01
techrights-bot๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 13, 2021 โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/irc-log-130621/#comments ไท‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/irc-log-130621/#commentsJun 14 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 13, 2021 | TechrightsJun 14 09:05
techrights-botToday in #Techrights โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152261Jun 14 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJun 14 09:07
techrights-bot"This case centred about language requirements. Indeed, the applicant had filed for a patent with the European Patents Office on December 15, 2014, using the German language." https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/from-the-bench-mind-your-patent-language.877313 http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/Jun 14 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofmalta.com | From the bench: Mind your (patent) languageJun 14 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag โ€” Part 20: Taking Stock | TechrightsJun 14 09:08
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] i had a look at matrix and noticed that rooms are decentralized. That seems pretty strange to me. I would think rooms would be hosted on servers. Because they are decentralized they have to follow a particular moderation algorithm that all servers agree onJun 14 09:11
techrights-botI don't want to perpetuate any #irc wars (it's already chaotic enough as it is!). If you heard about the #freenode #fsf thing, here's the raw stuff for you to decide based upon: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/fsf-channel-canceled.txt and http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/freenode-takes-control-of-fsf-channel.txtJun 14 09:11
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] otherwise they will desyncJun 14 09:11
techrights-botThe last thing I want to do is any further article/video about IRC. If #irc calms down as a whole, I'll be able to investigate and write about important things like #swpats and #freesw instead. That's the goal. The past month has been SUPER-UNPRODUCTIVE.Jun 14 09:12
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] immibis: I am not so familiar with matrix, but I know they ban many rooms and peopleJun 14 09:13
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and when I say "they" I don't even know who I refer toJun 14 09:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] maybe each project/org needs to have its own room/channelJun 14 09:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] not project.slack dot comJun 14 09:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] not discord whatever they call 'channels'Jun 14 09:14
activelowi am surprised the freenode drama with prince Lee involved caused so much drama, meanwhile yet another Mr. Lee of Korean telecom was installed as head of ITU-T (in 2015 already!)Jun 14 09:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] not org at irc.IRCgiant.org/net.comJun 14 09:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Lee is a very common name thereJun 14 09:15
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Lee, Park, Kim...Jun 14 09:15
activelownonethelessJun 14 09:15
activelowKorean Telecom Mr. Lee head of ITU-TJun 14 09:15
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] like Nguyen in Vietnam areaJun 14 09:16
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] iirc, about 60% of the populationJun 14 09:16
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I once even dated a NguyenJun 14 09:16
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Lee is also a common surname here in the UKJun 14 09:16
activelowthis one was remarkable too: https://www.reuters.com/technology/huawei-founder-urges-software-push-counter-us-sanctions-2021-05-24/Jun 14 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE Huawei founder urges shift to software to counter U.S. sanctions | ReutersJun 14 09:16
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] that makes it hard to 'google'Jun 14 09:16
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] too many Lees and NguyensJun 14 09:16
gustafschestowitz: the reason people / orgs congregate to centralized services is discoverabilityJun 14 09:17
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I don't think Andrew Lee is incompetentJun 14 09:17
gustafsuper-easy to find another subreddit Jun 14 09:17
activelowwhich one schestowitz ?Jun 14 09:17
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] the problem is, he can only get very incompetent people to work for him nowJun 14 09:17
activelowMr. Lee of Freenode or Mr. Lee of Telecom head of ITU-T?Jun 14 09:17
gustafonboarding on IRC is different, especially when it comes to registering to Nickserv etcJun 14 09:17
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] discoverability is overratedJun 14 09:18
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's "discoverability" until the service goes offlineJun 14 09:18
gustafthat's an opinion, sure Jun 14 09:18
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] for business reasons, censorship, sanctionsJun 14 09:18
gustafmost people just want to connect and/or make money Jun 14 09:18
activelowthe telecom Mr. Lee was leading research about "IPTV", which i question was relevant qualification for ITU-TJun 14 09:18
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] "lee" is a super common nameJun 14 09:18
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] there must be many millions in china with that nameJun 14 09:19
gustafthe risk assessment that what you say can get you banned is far from people's mindsJun 14 09:19
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] aside from US/UK/Canada and KoreaJun 14 09:19
gustafit certainly was for me, on Freenode... Jun 14 09:19
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Andrew is also a common nameJun 14 09:19
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] there are thousands of people called Andrew Lee in the UK I reckonJun 14 09:19
activelowyet this too sheds some light on the cowardice and hypocrisy of USA business entities, such as Netflix who generate bubble cash of billions - with IPTV which is the business of Mr. LeeJun 14 09:19
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] some would be famousJun 14 09:19
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] gustaf: because people assume about themselves that they are good and benignJun 14 09:20
gustafI guess being Crown Prince is a distinguishing factor then :D Jun 14 09:20
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's a made up titleJun 14 09:20
activelowdo you have any idea what it means if Korean Telecom installed Mr. Lee as head of ITU-T???Jun 14 09:20
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–…โ–โ–†โ–„โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ– avg(k/sec) 30.80 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 63.48โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.00  โŸฒJun 14 09:21
activelowITU-T is by far the oldest international unition nations institutions, and probably the most important one tooJun 14 09:21
gustafsure but the title is "unique"Jun 14 09:21
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] There might be like a million Koreans called LeeJun 14 09:21
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] or hundreds of thousandsJun 14 09:21
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's meaninglessJun 14 09:21
gustafafk for nowJun 14 09:21
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] that title is associated with a murderous SaudiJun 14 09:21
activelowunited nations, in the hands of Korean TelecomJun 14 09:22
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] SK is good at InternetJun 14 09:22
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they have the world's fastestJun 14 09:22
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz: matrix is federatedJun 14 09:22
activelowschestowitz: "Internet" is NOT telco protocol domainJun 14 09:23
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] it is trying to be the federated IRC that you wantJun 14 09:23
activelowtelco operates backbone with protocols rarely heard ofJun 14 09:23
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] (but over HTTP because ??)Jun 14 09:23
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] bloatJun 14 09:23
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] still it is a thing that exists and that you could interoperate with instead of reinventingJun 14 09:24
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] because it has a significant user baseJun 14 09:24
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] some people think it's innovation to make everything as a web pageJun 14 09:24
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] even if one day the web will go awayJun 14 09:24
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] like flash didJun 14 09:24
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] after 20+ yearsJun 14 09:24
activelowsome people think "IPTV" is innovative, hance Mr. Lee is head of ITU-TJun 14 09:25
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] IPTV is not newsJun 14 09:25
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] IPTV is innovative if you are running a networkJun 14 09:25
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's just TV done over IP :-)Jun 14 09:25
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] TCP/IPJun 14 09:25
activelow*henceJun 14 09:25
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] IPTV allows you to use the same cable for TV and Internet without weird fixed-function analog electronicsJun 14 09:25
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] i doubt it uses TCPJun 14 09:25
activelowi know what it is, and it is crap, technological crapJun 14 09:26
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] activelow: what is your suggestion for delivering TV and Internet over the same cable?Jun 14 09:26
activelowwhich exists since some corrupt corporation can generate cash with it, hundreds of billionsJun 14 09:26
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] TV cable stuff could already do "on demand"Jun 14 09:26
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] TV channels are obsolete anywayJun 14 09:26
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz: probably with something like IPTVJun 14 09:26
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I only hear about several of them shutting downJun 14 09:26
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] lack of budget, too small an audience, no advertisersJun 14 09:27
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and people love skipping adsJun 14 09:27
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] TV cannot do thatJun 14 09:27
activelowanyway, since yesterday G7 are meeting, when discussing relations with China/Korea they disconnected internet, due to sensivitivy of the matters at handJun 14 09:27
activelowdoesn't surprise me given the fact head of ITU-T (LeeCom) operates itJun 14 09:27
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] people can take note and post laterJun 14 09:27
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] or recordJun 14 09:27
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] activelow: what is your suggestion for delivering TV and Internet over the same cable?Jun 14 09:27
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] do we even need TV anymore?Jun 14 09:28
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] i stopped watching TV over 20 years agoJun 14 09:28
activelowimmibis: IPTV is unicast on-demand streaming via TCP(SCTP)/IP -> which is technical crap and doesn't require replacementJun 14 09:28
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] since then I've been hearing of more who do the sameJun 14 09:28
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] us not watching TV is one reason there's so much conspiracy nonsense, oddly enoughJun 14 09:28
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] not reallyJun 14 09:29
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] TV also spreads BSJun 14 09:29
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] at least when everyone watched the same mostly-factual news every night it kept us all on a common groundingJun 14 09:29
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] the issue is not "the Internet"Jun 14 09:29
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] the Internet has good and badJun 14 09:29
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] social control media = badJun 14 09:29
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] there is no covid-doesn't-exist channelJun 14 09:29
activelowi didn't say TV, i referred to IPTV which Mr. LeeCom had expertise to lead ITU-TJun 14 09:29
activelowwhich is ridiculousJun 14 09:29
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] is there any connection to Andrew Lee?Jun 14 09:30
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] if not, how is this relevant?Jun 14 09:30
activelowYESJun 14 09:30
activelowi am saying LeeNode is a child's playground in comparison to ITU-T and international telco business, and this https://www.reuters.com/technology/huawei-founder-urges-software-push-counter-us-sanctions-2021-05-24/Jun 14 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE Huawei founder urges shift to software to counter U.S. sanctions | ReutersJun 14 09:30
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] [09:17] <activelow/fn> Mr. Lee of Freenode or Mr. Lee of Telecom head of ITU-T?Jun 14 09:31
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] no connection afaikJun 14 09:31
activelowschestowitz: you may self-host IRC service, you cannot operate your own telco backboneJun 14 09:31
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I knowJun 14 09:31
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] that's a known limitation I always speak aboytJun 14 09:31
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but if UK ISPs stop disconnecting people for political reasons, it would entail HUGE blowbackJun 14 09:31
activelowimagine if LeeCom similar to LeeNode begins to hijack and disconnect?Jun 14 09:32
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] *startJun 14 09:32
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] you call it LeeNode but you use it right nowJun 14 09:32
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] activelow: I wish there were more community ISPs, I actually researched starting one but then some company said they'd pay me 3 times the money to move halfway across the worldJun 14 09:32
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] although it "LeeNode" bothered you, then you would connect to this channel over irc.techrights.orgJun 14 09:32
activelowI wished Telco had not been privatizedJun 14 09:33
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Manchester (here) had efforts at local meshes around 2004Jun 14 09:33
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] of course governments hate thatJun 14 09:33
activelowbtw. KabelDeutschland too was "sold", as was entire German Telecom "sold"Jun 14 09:33
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they want to be in control and see everythingJun 14 09:33
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] of course nobody can operate a *backbone* without running thousands of km of fiber, but they don't have to be the same companies that own your home connectionJun 14 09:33
activelowinto the hands of i wouldn't want to namecall Jun 14 09:33
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] one of our clients at work deals with monitoring "assets" like backbonesJun 14 09:34
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and those are massive projectsJun 14 09:34
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz: did they try to comply with regulations? i know in NZ there are a couple of requirements like you have to register and you have to have a system to let the police wiretap if they have a warrant. The rest of the law is just boring paperwork about dispute resolutionJun 14 09:34
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] you will never have a community laying underwater cablesJun 14 09:34
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and maintaining them with submarines and stuffJun 14 09:34
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] tough realityJun 14 09:34
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] things like submarine cables are literally why corporations were inventedJun 14 09:35
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] millions of people chip in a little bit of money to get something huge doneJun 14 09:35
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] (or thousands, or hundreds)Jun 14 09:35
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] and then those people are the shareholdersJun 14 09:35
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] running a local mesh is fine, but for INTERNATIONAL operations you need the underwater cables or satellite (if the community can crowdfound rockets and stuff to launch satellites)Jun 14 09:35
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and even then it would rely on agencies that work to prevent collisionsJun 14 09:36
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] has anyone been censored by a backbone in a stable western democracy?Jun 14 09:36
activelowITU-T business covers more than cabling, it is an entire separate protocol stackJun 14 09:36
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] not yetJun 14 09:36
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but Russia did some thingsJun 14 09:36
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] like cutting off nationsJun 14 09:36
activelowan international/intercontinental SYNCHRONOUS circuit switched networkJun 14 09:36
activelowwhich is why an expert in IPTV becoming head of ITU-T is ridiculousJun 14 09:36
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] anyway, you are talking about the lowest common denominator hereJun 14 09:37
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] like diverting software freedom debates to whether you can manufacture chips at homeJun 14 09:37
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] i wouldn't worry about russia cutting off nations yet. get the easy things first. you will never stop russia arresting the people who try to connect to whatever countryJun 14 09:37
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] without replacing russia with a democracyJun 14 09:37
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] unless you are in russia and capable of organizing a million people to protest you cannot do thatJun 14 09:38
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] ("protest" may or may not include "behead Mr Putin")Jun 14 09:38
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activelowwhy distract to russia? it is Netflix among other corrupt entities in USA who cash in billions, and agitate for sanctions in parallelJun 14 09:39
activelowNetflix generates cash, and US administration agitates for sanctions against LeeCorp???Jun 14 09:39
techrights-botClaudio Cambra: First week of Google Summer of Code 2021 https://claudiocambra.com/2021/06/14/first-week-of-google-summer-of-code-2021/ #kde #gsoc #gulag #alphabetJun 14 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-claudiocambra.com | First week of Google Summer of Code 2021 โ€“ Claudio CambraJun 14 09:39
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] you're gonna reeee about a megacorp and of all the megacorps, you chose frickin *netflix* to reeee against?Jun 14 09:40
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] how about microsoft or blackrock or citadel capital or disney?Jun 14 09:40
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I am not sure they're even truly proftableJun 14 09:40
activelowNetflix because King Lee of ITU-T was researching IPTVJun 14 09:40
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] just a DRM empireJun 14 09:40
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] clogging up networksJun 14 09:40
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] Netflix is a puppet of Disney, they have to be or else they don't get to show any movies.Jun 14 09:41
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] Netflix is oppressed by copyright just like you areJun 14 09:41
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] disney says lick our boots or don't exist and they have to do itJun 14 09:41
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I feel bad for people who rely on DRMflixJun 14 09:41
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's awfulJun 14 09:41
activelowi am not oppressed by copyright, in fact i comply with it and welcome itJun 14 09:41
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and they get to keep nothing they pay forJun 14 09:41
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] used and discardedJun 14 09:41
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] disney says you have to have shitty DRM or don't exist, and they have to do itJun 14 09:42
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] netflix is not the problem hereJun 14 09:42
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] DRM is imposed by copyright holdersJun 14 09:42
activelowanyway, it is remarkable that G7 meeting had to disconnect internet connections during their talks... uhum (LeeCom in control secretly monitoring/spying?)Jun 14 09:42
techrights-botThe term "change management" has become another management buzzword. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/change-management-4-ways-cios-can-leadJun 14 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 ways CIOs can lead change management now | The Enterprisers ProjectJun 14 09:42
activelowand there is hundreds of billions of cash at stack, international stock exchange all thatJun 14 09:43
activelow*stakeJun 14 09:43
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] matrix's moderation features are really badJun 14 09:43
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] you can't ban specific homeservers from joining your rooms outrightJun 14 09:43
techrights-bot"Sachin is a former software developer at Google and Microsoft, and now" writes for #ibm #redhat x-| https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/it-career-how-speed-up-career-pathJun 14 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | When IT careers stall: 5 tips to jump-start progress | The Enterprisers ProjectJun 14 09:44
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techrights-bot6 hours ago: "So when I was at IBM, Golden Circle was the top award and you could take someone with you. 100% club was just you and some peers, and #IBM would send you somewhere for 3 nights." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#repliesJun 14 09:45
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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] too much federation can also be banJun 14 09:47
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] Ariadne: and that is probably caused by the decentralized nature of rooms, right? If rooms were hosted on servers, the servers could be modified to change how the rooms work, but with decentralized rooms they all have to agreeJun 14 09:47
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] federation needs to come in moderation, as in moderate levelJun 14 09:47
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] you don't invite biker gangs to your christening partiesJun 14 09:48
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] you don't want MAGA hat wearers in Biden inaugurationJun 14 09:48
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] social control media is based on false assumptionsJun 14 09:48
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's pooling together people who really ought not bother with one anotherJun 14 09:48
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and this only contributes to polarity, not dialogueJun 14 09:48
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] echo chambers also contribute to polarityJun 14 09:49
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] with bbs, irc etc. you limit who speaks to whom and sees whatJun 14 09:49
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] same in newsgroups, email/mailing listsJun 14 09:49
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] otherwise you end up shouting down anti-vaxers in linux kernel mailing lists (lkml)Jun 14 09:49
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] immibis: *@homeserver.tld bans could be included in the ACLJun 14 09:49
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] immibis: the networks aren't designed to bridgeJun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] but i guess that would require another room versionJun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] it's not profitableJun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] the hashtags are designed to provoke and sell ads by increasing 'screen time'Jun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] (they are in ophion)Jun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] we need to accept that some people do need "Space"Jun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] to keep on topics and not fight all the timeJun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz: if you don't confront the anti-vaxxers they grow.Jun 14 09:50
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] even fediverse became full of shit peopleJun 14 09:51
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] until 60% of the population is anti-vax and they vote to make vax illegalJun 14 09:51
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] with their disgusting instancesJun 14 09:51
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] even people on the "Right" can't stand itJun 14 09:51
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and limit which instances they federate withJun 14 09:51
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] people on the right could never stand it. The right always had the biggest echo chambers and censorshipJun 14 09:51
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] anti-vaxxers are fewJun 14 09:52
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but people are painted with a broad brushJun 14 09:52
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and then they start labeling people who reject just one product with that same brushJun 14 09:52
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] you need to understand Internet misinformationJun 14 09:52
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and how to combat it, usually by educating peopleJun 14 09:53
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] critical thinkingJun 14 09:53
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] that's not taught anymore, in the US at leastJun 14 09:53
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they have time to teach bibleJun 14 09:53
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] (fiction)Jun 14 09:53
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but no lessons on critical and sceptical thinkingJun 14 09:53
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] you are saying to just cut ourselves off from the non-critical-thinkers. That is not an effective way to teach them critical thinkingJun 14 09:53
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Twitter is a boatload of nutsJun 14 09:54
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] no, I think they thrive in bad sitesJun 14 09:54
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] immibis: is it really my job to educate people with bad faith arguments on critical thinking, though?Jun 14 09:54
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] it is everyone's job. Otherwise they flourishJun 14 09:54
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] that are good for people looking to spread looney stuffJun 14 09:54
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] trueJun 14 09:54
activelowfor CV19 alone several dozens of vaccines exist, iirc 5 of them were certified... how many vax shots you want each year?Jun 14 09:54
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] too bad it doesn't actually workJun 14 09:54
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] like @realDonaldTrimpJun 14 09:55
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] teaching critical thinking that is. Not vaccines. Vaccines work.Jun 14 09:55
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Nigeria did something courageousJun 14 09:55
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they just cut off that shitJun 14 09:55
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they need to do the same to FBJun 14 09:55
activelowfurthermore the recommended vaccine as precaution was pneumococces, the shot Queen Merkel received March 2020 alreadyJun 14 09:55
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] in Nigeria's case, it's about control of the mediaJun 14 09:55
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] because a foreign for-profit corporation meddled in their politicsJun 14 09:56
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] nigeria needs its own platformsJun 14 09:56
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #DataSwamp โ˜ž How to use Tor only for onion addresses in a web browser https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-06-12-tor-web-browser-onion.htmlJun 14 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene's percent % : How to use Tor only for onion addresses in a web browserJun 14 09:57
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #JulienTinnes โ˜ž A few thoughts on Fuchsia security https://blog.cr0.org/2021/06/a-few-thoughts-on-fuchsia-security.htmlJun 14 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cr0.org | cr0 blog: A few thoughts on Fuchsia securityJun 14 09:57
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] nigeria can then ban #bokoharam or whateverJun 14 09:58
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] if they're designated as terror groupJun 14 09:58
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] not ask some foreign company to do thatJun 14 09:58
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but Nigeria is not big technologicallyJun 14 09:59
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] so a lot gets outsourcedJun 14 09:59
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they have Sahara ReporterJun 14 09:59
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and some blogsJun 14 09:59
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but no big tech companiesJun 14 09:59
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware โ˜ž #G7 agrees to fight forced labor, ransomware, corruption https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558182-g-7-agrees-to-fight-forced-labor-ransomware-corruptionJun 14 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-G-7 agrees to fight forced labor, ransomware, corruption | TheHillJun 14 10:01
techrights-botLike the previous, one #Microsoft #Windows TCO and #ProprietarySoftware โ˜ž US, Russia Spar on Cyberattacks Ahead of Biden-Putin Summit https://www.voanews.com/europe/us-russia-spar-cyberattacks-ahead-biden-putin-summitJun 14 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | US, Russia Spar on Cyberattacks Ahead of Biden-Putin Summit | Voice of America - EnglishJun 14 10:02
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware โ˜ž #VW says data breach at vendor impacted 3.3 million people in North America https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/vw-says-data-breach-at-vendor-impacted-3-3-million-people-in-north-america/83453239Jun 14 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | VW says data breach at vendor: VW says data breach at vendor impacted 3.3 million people in North America, IT News, ET CIOJun 14 10:02
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz is now recommending removing free speech?Jun 14 10:04
techrights-bot#helsinkitimes misusing words like "pirates" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/19389-2-9-million-pirates-in-the-nordics.html can we substitue the word "politician" with "rapist"? Or "cannibal"?Jun 14 10:04
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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] immibis: of terror groups that behead people, yesJun 14 10:05
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they violate lawsJun 14 10:05
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they should not only be censoredJun 14 10:05
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but tracked, detained, prosecutedJun 14 10:05
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] failing that, kill them (if capture is not possible, like in Boko Haram's case)Jun 14 10:06
techrights-bot#overpopulation http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/overpopulation RMS chastised for bring up an issue he deems possibly more urgent than #freesw http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/Jun 14 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sf-encyclopedia.com | Themes : Overpopulation : SFE : Science Fiction EncyclopediaJun 14 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conversation With Richard Stallman in Brazil, May 31st 2021 | TechrightsJun 14 10:09
techrights-botLatest #dilbert https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-06-13Jun 14 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Non Disclosure Denied - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-06-13 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJun 14 10:10
techrights-botiophk: lots of #microsoft spam leading up to the vista n+1 release in a few weeksJun 14 10:11
techrights-bot#google #europe aka #fsfe ... useful when it comes to #privacy https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106403531816434909 they need to stop calling themselves "FSFE" http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/Jun 14 10:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisationโ€™s Name) | TechrightsJun 14 10:15
techrights-bot"Hi there! As a #blind screen reader user, I would really appreciate it if you'd take the time to #captionyourimages as it would really help with #accessibility " https://dragonscave.space/@Superfreq/106389969433136712Jun 14 10:15
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techrights-bot"It's been eight years since Aaron Swartz took his own life. Aaron had been charged with 13 felonies under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) for violating the terms of service on the JSTOR database of scholarly articles." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/106353191199525711Jun 14 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "It's been eight years since Aaron Swartz took hisโ€ฆ" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media FรฉdรฉrรฉJun 14 10:17
techrights-botThe #geminiProtocol capsule of #techrights is even more blind people-friendly than the Web site. And AFAIK, that Web site is already very screen readers-friendly. Don't ever think like, "who cares!!!! There's so few of them anyway..."Jun 14 10:19
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] bbiab, exerciseJun 14 10:19
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] i thought techrights was a free speech thingJun 14 10:31
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techrights-botSuffice to say (in 2021 it should be obvious), you cannot judge a distro's popularity or userbase just based on number of downloads. Nowadays some companies download it once, then deploy it to thousands of machines or millions of devices, then sell those devices.Jun 14 10:55
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] immibis: not if you are Boko HaramJun 14 10:56
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] then it's good they speak outJun 14 10:56
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] so they can be detected, tracked, arrestedJun 14 10:56
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] death threats as a similar thingJun 14 10:56
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] so free speech only for the people i likeJun 14 10:56
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] you know who else only wants free speech for people they like? just about everyone. boko haram probably wishes you didn't have free speechJun 14 10:57
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] boko haram is a violent terror groupJun 14 10:57
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] they don't care about free speechJun 14 10:57
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #Stuff #Privacy #Surveillance โ˜ž Police tight-lipped on tools used to scan #socialcontrolmedia activity https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/300332547/police-tightlipped-on-tools-used-to-scan-social-media-activityJun 14 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.stuff.co.nz | Police tight-lipped on tools used to scan social media activity | Stuff.co.nzJun 14 11:00
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #NBC #Transparency โ˜ž ProPublica's report on tax inequality could hurt Biden's push to make the system better https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/propublica-s-report-tax-inequality-could-hurt-biden-s-push-ncna1270537Jun 14 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Leslie Book: ProPublica's report on tax inequality could hurt Biden's push to make the system betterJun 14 11:01
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #TheEconomist #Misinformation #Disinformation โ˜ž #China says it will be a โ€œmuseum powerโ€ by 2035 https://www.economist.com/china/2021/06/12/china-says-it-will-be-a-museum-power-by-2035Jun 14 11:02
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techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #Quillette #Censorship โ˜ž Why Is the Society for American Archaeology Promoting Indigenous Creationism? https://quillette.com/2021/06/13/why-is-the-society-for-american-archaeology-promoting-indigenous-creationism/Jun 14 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Is the Society for American Archaeology Promoting Indigenous Creationism? โ€“ QuilletteJun 14 11:06
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #TheHindu #Censorship โ˜ž Censorship by noise https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/Readers-Editor/censorship-by-noise/article34805755.eceJun 14 11:06
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tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz: they want themselves to have free speech, and other people not to, presumablyJun 14 11:19
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–ƒโ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–โ–„โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–‡โ–ƒโ–„โ–‡โ–†โ–ƒโ–‡โ– avg(k/sec) 31.11 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–„โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ– avg(k/sec) 38.90โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.06  โŸฒJun 14 11:21
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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] immibis: look up what Boko Haram isJun 14 11:56
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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I think you might think you know but do not knowJun 14 11:56
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] since the context here was NigeriaJun 14 11:56
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] techrights isn't really a "free speech" zoneJun 14 11:58
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz: ok but they still want themselves to have free speech. (if you're a member but you say speech they don't approve of, you're no longer a member)Jun 14 12:00
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] everyone wants themselves to have free speech and their enemies to notJun 14 12:00
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #VOANews #PressFreedom โ˜ž โ€˜Highly Offensiveโ€™ Gag Orders in Media Subpoena Cases, Lawyer Says https://www.voanews.com/press-freedom/highly-offensive-gag-orders-media-subpoena-cases-lawyer-saysJun 14 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | โ€˜Highly Offensiveโ€™ Gag Orders in Media Subpoena Cases, Lawyer Says | Voice of America - EnglishJun 14 12:06
techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #Gannett #CivilRights โ˜ž Trial reveals federal agents falsely accused a UT professor born in #China of spying https://eu.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/14/federal-agents-falsely-accused-university-of-tennessee-professor-spying-china/7649378002/Jun 14 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knoxnews.com | Federal agents falsely accused UT professor of spying for ChinaJun 14 12:07
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: the question was, can terror groups be treated as a non-issue for platformsJun 14 12:13
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and my answer is, noJun 14 12:13
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] because we have laws against that, for starters...Jun 14 12:13
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] irrespective of our opinionsJun 14 12:13
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and I most support >those< lawsJun 14 12:13
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] recruiting people to kill people is a problemJun 14 12:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I don't object to laws that objectively can save livesJun 14 12:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] "I WILL KILL YOU" isn't protected by "free speech"Jun 14 12:14
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] or "looking for assassin"Jun 14 12:15
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activelowit needs to be distinguished what is referred to with "platform" 1) carrier network (telco) 2) ISP access line 3) service providers (IRC)Jun 14 12:22
activelowthen who and what is acted upon such as surveillance at the source (tapping individual computers) or monitoring the network infra or monitoring services etcJun 14 12:23
activelowand all this has nasty political, legal and technical implicationsJun 14 12:24
activelowoften politicians seek MASS surveillance while individual surveillance is indicatedJun 14 12:25
activelowbtw. my nonsense talk wasn't bridged/forwarded correctly to the other IRC service providerJun 14 12:27
techrights-botJust recorded a video about #epo #corruption and #hungary ... background: http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/mihaly-ficsor-past/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/13/epo-in-budapest/Jun 14 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice โ€” Part 4: Mihรกly Ficsor, the EPOโ€™s Hungarian โ€œFixerโ€ | TechrightsJun 14 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice โ€” Part 6: Best Buddies With Antรณnio | TechrightsJun 14 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice โ€” Part 5: Benoรฎtโ€™s โ€œFriendsโ€ in Budapest | TechrightsJun 14 12:33
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] schestowitz: what about "everyone should have guns so they can kill each other more easily"?Jun 14 12:38
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: The bridge in ##sqlite is shot down, the op no longer wants it.Jun 14 12:38
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] or what about "free guns at my house"?Jun 14 12:38
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] has CrystalMath informed freenode staff that #techrights is illegally leaving freenode?Jun 14 12:39
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] immibis: It's not leaving freenode though. It maintains a double presence.Jun 14 12:42
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] Even by the new rules that should be fine.Jun 14 12:42
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] but users are told they can move to this network. that is illegal activity on freenodeJun 14 12:42
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] XRevan86: btw did you see the new new rules? The new new rules are "we can ban you for any reason"Jun 14 12:43
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] immibis: ๐Ÿค”Jun 14 12:43
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] immibis: At least freenode doesn't have a CoC!Jun 14 12:43
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] it does have a cocJun 14 12:43
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] immibis: priorities :)Jun 14 12:43
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] it's just labelled "terms of service" instead and it's even broader than most leftist cocs. https://freenode.net/policiesJun 14 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The Policies - freenodeJun 14 12:44
*tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] sees fruitless activity here and will bow down to focus on more important things, making 2 articles about 2 new videosJun 14 12:44
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] immibis: I know, I'm intentionally using the term in a narrower biased way.Jun 14 12:46
techrights-botThe way things are going, this month there will be almost a quarter million page requests over gemini:// in #techrightsJun 14 12:49
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techrights-botโ— NEWS โ— #CommonDreams #wikileaks โ˜ž World's Most Powerful Imprison Julian #Assange for His Virtuesโ€”Not His Vices https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/06/13/worlds-most-powerful-imprison-julian-assange-his-virtues-not-his-vicesJun 14 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | World's Most Powerful Imprison Julian Assange for His Virtuesโ€”Not His Vices | Chris HedgesJun 14 12:57
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techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–‚โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–†โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ– avg(k/sec) 23.93 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 19.63โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.08  โŸฒJun 14 13:21
leah.Jun 14 13:24
tr-bridge[leah/tr] .Jun 14 13:24
leahwas just testing something. ignore meJun 14 13:24
leahkeep calm and carry onJun 14 13:24
*leah wanted to see which directions the bot could go inJun 14 13:25
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] schestowitz: at some point, i would like to move techrights into a different /24 so that i can return the 23.161.112.0/24 to ARIN (and some others) in exchange for a contiguous /22Jun 14 13:25
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] sides like a mere DNS changeJun 14 13:26
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] afaik, we have 3 ip addresses currently exc. the hvJun 14 13:27
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] irc, tm, tJun 14 13:27
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] *trJun 14 13:27
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*unoccupied is now known as leahJun 14 13:27
tr-bridge[Ariadne/tr] yesJun 14 13:28
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] sounds goodJun 14 13:29
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] might need to adjust ttl to reduce downtimeJun 14 13:30
techrights-botThe โ€˜Fixerโ€™ of Antรณnio Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ #hungary #epo #corruption #europe #patentsJun 14 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The โ€˜Fixerโ€™ of Antรณnio Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) | TechrightsJun 14 13:30
techrights-bot13 open source tools for developers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152262Jun 14 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 open source tools for developers | Tux MachinesJun 14 13:39
techrights-botBest Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Earth Pro โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152263Jun 14 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Earth Pro | Tux MachinesJun 14 13:39
techrights-bot#HaneSOM is a 4 cm2 Arm Linux module powered by Microchip SAMA5D2 SiP โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152264 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HaneSOM is a 4 cm2 Arm Linux module powered by Microchip SAMA5D2 SiP | Tux MachinesJun 14 13:40
techrights-bot#Google #Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152265 #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 14 13:40
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] [13:41] <Techrights-sec> I presume TR, TM, and HV will all move to new IPv4 addresses at the sameJun 14 13:41
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] [13:41] <Techrights-sec> time?Jun 14 13:41
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: ^ is that so? we want to lower the dns overhead and can adjust ttl accordinglyJun 14 13:41
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] MinceR: https://i.imgflip.com/4vqp4a.jpgJun 14 13:51
techrights-bot[Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ #haar #de #hungary #epo #epcJun 14 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) | TechrightsJun 14 14:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] MinceR: your master/boss/leader/mainJun 14 14:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] your primaryJun 14 14:01
techrights-bot[Meme] #Microsoft Stooping Down Low in Search of #Vapourware With a Superficial Version Bump โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ ไท‰ #Techrights #vista11 #vista10 | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/Jun 14 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Microsoft Stooping Down Low in Search of Vapourware With a Superficial Version Bump | TechrightsJun 14 14:14
techrights-botThe meeting which is set to resume at the start of next month includes the โ€˜Fixerโ€™ of #AntรณnioCampinos ; what sense of impartiality might one expect? โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ ไท‰ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #corruption | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/Jun 14 14:19
techrights-bot#EPC denial is more lethal than anything which the the #EPO says may merit โ€˜urgencyโ€™ (as if having discussions about patents will save lives) [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ ไท‰ #Techrights #Haar | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/Jun 14 14:19
techrights-botInstead of trying to actually fix its broken (and self-breaking) operating system #Microsoft has decided to sell mythology and false promises, as usual โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ ไท‰ #Techrights #vista10 #vista11 #vaporware | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/Jun 14 14:21
techrights-botConveniently Conflating #Vaccination With the #Surveillance Business of #IBM / #LinuxFoundation http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/ #zemlinPACJun 14 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | TechrightsJun 14 14:46
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techrights-botPsychonauts 2 confirmed for launch on August 25, Linux still supported | GamingOnLinux โš“ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/psychonauts-2-confirmed-for-launch-on-august-25-linux-still-supported ไท‰ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Psychonauts 2 confirmed for launch on August 25, Linux still supported | GamingOnLinuxJun 14 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJun 14 14:59
techrights-bot"Everything we've seen still clearly has #GNU #Linux there so we're good to go for it on August 9 for Early Access." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/the-tiny-multiplayer-online-rpg-book-of-travels-enters-early-access-on-august-9Jun 14 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The tiny multiplayer online RPG 'Book of Travels' enters Early Access on August 9 | GamingOnLinuxJun 14 15:01
techrights-botHorror-mystery novel Scarlet Hollow enters Early Access with two episodes out | GamingOnLinux โš“ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/horror-mystery-novel-scarlet-hollow-enters-early-access ไท‰ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Horror-mystery novel Scarlet Hollow enters Early Access with two episodes out | GamingOnLinuxJun 14 15:01
MinceR14 064415 < tr-bridge> [DaemonFC/tr] Maybe even prophetic. SOME might get to leave and start a colony, if they pay Elon enough.Jun 14 15:02
techrights-bot"Still due to release sometime next year for #GNU #Linux and Windows (with Switch announced now too), Kitsune Tails is a platformer styled after beloved classics steeped in Japanese mythology and diverse relationships. It looks seriously cute too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/kitsune-tails-gets-another-sweet-trailer-ahead-of-release-next-yearJun 14 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitsune Tails gets another sweet trailer ahead of release next year | GamingOnLinuxJun 14 15:02
MinceRthat won't helpJun 14 15:02
MinceRthe atmosphere of Mars is not useful to humansJun 14 15:02
MinceR14 082049 < gustaf> phanes: I spent 17 years on Freenode without having to worry that what I said or did in a channel (or elsehwere) would bring staff down on me, or that channelJun 14 15:06
MinceRsounds like you didn't hang out on freenode official channels :>Jun 14 15:06
MinceR14 083523 <@schestowitz> OK, I think MinceR put rules in placeJun 14 15:06
MinceRnot reallyJun 14 15:06
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] MinceR: what did you get cancelled for?Jun 14 15:10
techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152266Jun 14 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 14 15:11
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techrights-botAdrift - Alan Popeโ€™s blog โš“ https://popey.com/blog/2021/06/adrift/ ไท‰ #Alanpopey | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Adrift - Alan Pope's blogJun 14 15:13
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] immibis: i didn't get cancelled yet, afaictJun 14 15:14
techrights-botMostly useless reuses. How about companies start making devices that are easier to repair and properly upgrade instead? https://www.maketecheasier.com/reuse-old-routers/Jun 14 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 8 Ways to Reuse Your Old Routers - Make Tech EasierJun 14 15:14
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] crybullies don't even know who i am :>Jun 14 15:14
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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] You are Vickor FicsorJun 14 15:15
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] VicarJun 14 15:15
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] or ViktorJun 14 15:15
techrights-bot#Fedora Classroom: #RPM Packaging 101 - Fedora Magazine โš“ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-classroom-rpm-packaging-101/ ไท‰ #RedHat #IBMJun 14 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Fedora Classroom: RPM Packaging 101 - Fedora MagazineJun 14 15:17
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] lol noJun 14 15:18
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–‡โ–ƒโ–†โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–„โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ– avg(k/sec) 24.45 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 23.15โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.13  โŸฒJun 14 15:21
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psydroidVlad MinceRJun 14 15:22
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] i vill suck your blud!Jun 14 15:23
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] villainJun 14 15:24
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] tbh, I found it fascinating how long he kept cloakedJun 14 15:24
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Touch not my krow!Jun 14 15:24
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] I need itJun 14 15:24
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] after more than a decade I don't know his name, age etc.Jun 14 15:24
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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I know  a few facts here and there based on what he said publiclyJun 14 15:24
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] XRevan86: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmister Crowwwwwwwwwwww!Jun 14 15:25
techrights-bot#Games : Psychonauts 2, Starmancer, Book of Travels, Scarlet Hollow, Kitsune Tails, and More โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152267 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Psychonauts 2, Starmancer, Book of Travels, Scarlet Hollow, Kitsune Tails, and More | Tux MachinesJun 14 15:25
techrights-bot#IBM /Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152268 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 14 15:26
techrights-bot#ibm : we litigate instead of innovate https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/06/10/why-ibm-is-suing-globalfoundries-over-chip-roadmap-failures/Jun 14 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Why IBM Is Suing GlobalFoundries Over Chip Roadmap FailuresJun 14 15:27
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tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] Another netsplit. The bridge seems to be fine though.Jun 14 15:31
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] indeedJun 14 15:31
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] netsplits on freenode are nothing new, anywayJun 14 15:31
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] MinceR: With that frequency? Wellโ€ฆJun 14 15:32
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] well, freenode and ircnet split the most frequently, afaictJun 14 15:32
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CrystalMathfreenode is gonna change ircds, that's no tiny thingJun 14 15:34
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] freenode is deleting githubJun 14 15:34
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and no matter what you think of freenode, this is a good thingJun 14 15:34
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I think it's because I suggested it to LeeJun 14 15:35
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] and he said he'd look into itJun 14 15:35
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] now there's git.freenode.netJun 14 15:35
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: To ircd-eight?Jun 14 15:35
CrystalMathinspircdJun 14 15:36
CrystalMathalso gonna migrate services to anopeJun 14 15:36
*psymin nods.Jun 14 15:38
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] MinceR: then how do you know they are crybullies?Jun 14 15:38
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] the definition is unclearJun 14 15:42
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] but it's a term many use to refer to "liberal"Jun 14 15:42
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] people exist on both 'sides'Jun 14 15:42
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] when they feel 'insulted'Jun 14 15:42
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] immibis: they tried to cancel other people, sometimes successfullyJun 14 15:42
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne gets litigation threats from someone on the rightJun 14 15:42
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] I get empty threats from supposedly liberal corrupt officialsJun 14 15:42
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] of course they just try to intimidate and rattleJun 14 15:43
tr-bridge[psymin/tr] glad they're emptyJun 14 15:43
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schestowitz[15:43] <schestowitz> when you show some embarrassing about themJun 14 15:45
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tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] FN netsplitJun 14 15:45
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techrights-botLinks 14/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC6, Psychonauts 2 for GNU/Linux โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-5-13-rc6/ ไท‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-5-13-rc6/Jun 14 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC6, Psychonauts 2 for GNU/Linux | TechrightsJun 14 15:48
techrights-botLinux - 23 minutes agoJun 14 15:49
techrights-bot๏ฟผJun 14 15:50
psydroidOBJ?Jun 14 15:50
techrights-bot#Security Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152269 #Jun 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 14 15:51
techrights-bot#Python Programming โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152270 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux MachinesJun 14 15:51
techrights-botTodayโ€™s ๐“๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐Œ๐š๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152271Jun 14 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 14 15:52
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] MinceR: so who was cancelled?Jun 14 15:53
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] RMS was, for exampleJun 14 15:53
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: "FN netsplit" โ€“ hm? another one?Jun 14 15:53
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] RMS is banned from freenode?Jun 14 15:53
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] XRevan86: no, it was just the end of that first oneJun 14 15:53
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] yeahJun 14 15:53
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techrights-bot" #IBM likes to play with โ€œenterprise openshiftโ€ Each has its advantages and each has its lifecycle. Intel life cycles tend to run 2-3 years where as Mainframe tends to run 10-15 years." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#repliesJun 14 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffsJun 14 15:56
techrights-bot"As long as #IBM has sh--e workers they have an excuse for what they do." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#repliesJun 14 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffsJun 14 15:57
techrights-bot"Maybe you would work 2 hours a week and steal the rest wherever you worked. I totally agree you shouldn't trust #IBM with anything but that's not an excuse to rob them." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#repliesJun 14 15:57
techrights-bot"It's salesmen that want to add some new chrome trim and sell it as the next year's model... "Shiny new stuff!!!... Get yours here!!!"..." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies #ibm #layoffsJun 14 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffsJun 14 15:58
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21051651Jun 14 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5462628)Jun 14 16:01
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] what is this monster?Jun 14 16:13
MinceRnot a monsterJun 14 16:15
MinceR(audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ybybf4tJWw   https://next-hack.com/index.php/2021/06/12/lets-port-doom-to-an-ikea-tradfri-lamp/Jun 14 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doom on an IKEA TRร…DFRI lamp! - YouTubeJun 14 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Letโ€™s port Doom to an IKEA TRร…DFRI Lamp! โ€“ next-hack.comJun 14 16:15
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] oh, wowJun 14 16:25
tr-bridge[schestowitz/tr] 100kb of ramJun 14 16:26
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] it does use flash heavily during rendering, thoughJun 14 16:27
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] including external SPI flash they added to the circuitJun 14 16:27
schestowitzjust got  some more EPO leaksJun 14 16:28
schestowitzthis is goldJun 14 16:28
schestowitzthey will waste almost 10,000,000 EUROS just suing their own STAFFJun 14 16:28
schestowitzor fighting them with external lawyersJun 14 16:29
schestowitzEPO is dyingJun 14 16:29
MinceRtoo bad those will come out of our pocketsJun 14 16:29
schestowitzsort ofJun 14 16:29
schestowitzthey have their own budgetJun 14 16:29
schestowitzEPO is 'self-funding'Jun 14 16:29
MinceRwhich also comes out of our pocketsJun 14 16:29
schestowitzwe just pay with settlements when trolls sueJun 14 16:29
schestowitzI will work on it nowJun 14 16:29
schestowitzsome of it is in GermanJun 14 16:29
schestowitzdid you see the two .hu articles we did (article, video) and meme this morning?Jun 14 16:29
schestowitz3 totalJun 14 16:30
MinceRnoJun 14 16:30
MinceRi did see some hu/EPO thing todayJun 14 16:30
schestowitz1.  http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ Jun 14 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) | TechrightsJun 14 16:31
schestowitz2. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ Jun 14 16:31
schestowitz3.http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/Jun 14 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice โ€” Part 6: Best Buddies With Antรณnio | TechrightsJun 14 16:31
schestowitz3. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/Jun 14 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The โ€˜Fixerโ€™ of Antรณnio Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) | TechrightsJun 14 16:32
schestowitz(Corrected 3)Jun 14 16:32
schestowitzI reckon hundres of hungarians work at EPOJun 14 16:33
techrights-botAttempted about 12 times to phone Home Officer regarding http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ that number, which is widely advertised, never works. LOL. And the response to it varies between 3 states. I think their phone system is down. "Essential" service...Jun 14 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office โ€˜Forceโ€™ EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices?Jun 14 16:35
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techrights-botOh gawd!!! More of that "Linux Foundation Research" today!!! It's NOT research. It's a joke. It's QUESTIONNAIRES and stuff... about BRANDING AND MARKETING. They redefine SPAM as "Research". Disgusting. #LinuxFoundation is corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. It's dragging down the "Linux" brand.Jun 14 16:48
techrights-botMore and more people I speak to and know for years stick to GNU but are looking to abandon Linux as the kernel. #linuxfoundation is one contributing factor.Jun 14 16:51
psyminWhat do you think some other factors could be?Jun 14 16:52
schestowitzweightJun 14 16:52
schestowitzsystemdJun 14 16:52
schestowitzphilosophyJun 14 16:52
MinceRnot sure about thatJun 14 16:54
MinceRBSD kernels come with their own userspaces :>Jun 14 16:54
schestowitzfidosdev also moved... and another friendJun 14 16:56
schestowitzfunnily enough, alpine goes the other wayJun 14 16:56
schestowitzless gnu, but still just linuxJun 14 16:56
schestowitzbut.... no systemdJun 14 16:56
schestowitzand a lot less bloatJun 14 16:56
MinceRs/space/land/Jun 14 16:57
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] does linux foundation have anything to do with linux?Jun 14 16:58
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] indeedJun 14 16:59
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] while it is somewhat disguised now, as far as i can tell, the Linux CoC gives bureaucrats at the Linux-Destroying Foundation the power to ban people from the Linux projectJun 14 17:00
techrights-bot#GCC 11 Compiler Performance Benchmarks With Various Optimization Levels, LTO โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152272 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 11 Compiler Performance Benchmarks With Various Optimization Levels, LTO | Tux MachinesJun 14 17:00
techrights-bot#Google #Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152273 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 14 17:00
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] it also helps its corporate owners ("members") violate the GPL on Linux in any way they feel like, without repercussionsJun 14 17:00
tr-bridge[psymin/tr] the CoC allows folks to violate the GPL?Jun 14 17:01
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] noJun 14 17:01
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] the Linux-Destroying Foundation doesJun 14 17:01
*tr-bridge [psymin/tr] nods.Jun 14 17:01
tr-bridge[psymin/tr] I'm glad the FSF exists and has backboneJun 14 17:01
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] the LDF also sent a powerful message by kicking out all community members a while agoJun 14 17:02
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] it is made of corporations and exists for the benefit of corporationsJun 14 17:02
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] MinceR: pretty sure only torvalds and his delegates can ban people from the linux projectJun 14 17:02
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] since the project is basically "whatever torvalds does"Jun 14 17:03
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] Torvalds doesn't look like someone who has any control over the projectJun 14 17:03
schestowitzTorvalds can still shoutJun 14 17:03
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] he didn't want the CoC, yet was eventually forced to adopt itJun 14 17:03
schestowitzbut not about things like 'secure boot'Jun 14 17:03
schestowitzhe can talk down cranksJun 14 17:03
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] some microsoft drone bragged about being the party to force thisJun 14 17:03
schestowitzbut not Red Hat cranksJun 14 17:03
schestowitzwith fake securityJun 14 17:03
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] and around the time Linux was forced to adopt the CoC, Linus stepped down temporarilyJun 14 17:03
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] and let the most vocal supporter of kdbus take overJun 14 17:03
schestowitznovell/microsoft gregJun 14 17:04
schestowitzwho brought in Microsoft's LevinJun 14 17:04
schestowitzsacha levin now his deputyJun 14 17:04
schestowitzMicrosoft: we OWN linuxJun 14 17:04
schestowitzLinux=Microsoft now http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/Jun 14 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | TechrightsJun 14 17:04
schestowitzthey partly own itJun 14 17:04
schestowitzthanks, LFJun 14 17:04
schestowitzwell done on all the money thoughJun 14 17:04
schestowitzmore sport cars for sheela and james zJun 14 17:05
psydroidLinux is not important in the long runJun 14 17:05
MinceRgoodJun 14 17:05
MinceRbecause it won't exist in the long runJun 14 17:05
tr-bridge[psymin/tr] Torvalds seems to have taken a path of avoiding some types of social and family conflictJun 14 17:05
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] he could have done that by leaving Linux and starting a forkJun 14 17:06
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tr-bridge[psymin/tr] I think that would have met family drama head onJun 14 17:09
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] does the family have the right to take over someone's life's work?Jun 14 17:10
schestowitzfair point...Jun 14 17:14
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/real-worldJun 14 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Real WorldJun 14 17:15
schestowitzMinceR: I will quote you in next article..Jun 14 17:15
CrystalMathreally, this may be controversial, but... i think Richard Stallman was more right about "it's important to not have children" than people think, maybe even more than he himself knowsJun 14 17:15
schestowitzabout budgetJun 14 17:15
schestowitzCrystalMath: yes, but it won't make him popularJun 14 17:15
CrystalMathyou see, projects by childless people are very different from projects by people who have childrenJun 14 17:15
MinceRwell, it's important, but he won't convince people of itJun 14 17:15
MinceRnothing willJun 14 17:15
MinceRthe human species will just ensure its own extinction in the most painful ways possibleJun 14 17:16
schestowitzBrazil is devour catholicJun 14 17:16
CrystalMathMinceR: but that's besides my point now...Jun 14 17:16
schestowitzand generally relatively dumb, with exception of course, like in most nations...Jun 14 17:16
schestowitzsome of them you can barely compel to use contraceptiveJun 14 17:16
CrystalMathmy point now is, a project by a childfree person will be *more free*Jun 14 17:16
schestowitzthat would offer sweet jesusJun 14 17:16
CrystalMaththis is controversialJun 14 17:16
CrystalMathbut think about it! people who have children kinda changeJun 14 17:16
schestowitzyeahJun 14 17:16
schestowitzneed to bigger budgetJun 14 17:16
MinceRwell, you can keep your project just as free, as long as you have a strong enough will to stand up to your own childrenJun 14 17:16
schestowitzso they make excusesJun 14 17:16
MinceRCrystalMath: everybody changesJun 14 17:17
schestowitzlike lunduke did when attacking rms to his faceJun 14 17:17
CrystalMathschestowitz: and they become parents, which means they start to see the importance of disciplineJun 14 17:17
schestowitz"I have a kid blah blah"Jun 14 17:17
CrystalMathbecause in their life it is importantJun 14 17:17
schestowitzhaving kids doesn't mature peopleJun 14 17:17
MinceRi doubt i'd like "discipline" any more if i was a parentJun 14 17:17
schestowitzit's a misconceptionJun 14 17:17
schestowitzthey might pretend betterJun 14 17:17
MinceRit's just another idea humans make life hell for each otherJun 14 17:17
MinceRwithJun 14 17:17
CrystalMathMinceR: you'd be changed, even by hormonal stuff, to be more caring about people rather than ideologiesJun 14 17:17
CrystalMathand yes even though you're a manJun 14 17:18
MinceRand the ideologies aren't about people?Jun 14 17:18
CrystalMaththe ideologies are always about people, but my point is, people with children are always more about "we must protect people, even from themselves"Jun 14 17:18
CrystalMathand i think this stems from hormonal effectsJun 14 17:18
CrystalMathand the lifestyle of a parentJun 14 17:18
MinceRhopefully strong-willed people's minds aren't fucked up by hormones that muchJun 14 17:19
CrystalMathi know that i'm kinda going into some possible evolutionary psychology mumbo-jumbo, but i think that sort of vaguely makes sense?Jun 14 17:19
MinceRfrom the evolutionary perspective, we're a dead endJun 14 17:19
CrystalMathi mean, isn't it not beneficial for a parent to think that way?Jun 14 17:19
CrystalMath*is it notJun 14 17:20
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–‚โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–‚โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–ˆโ–„โ– avg(k/sec) 51.58 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ–„โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 22.78โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.17  โŸฒJun 14 17:20
MinceRand so's everything that can't either itself develop technology to deal with challenges nonsapients can't beat, or team up with species that do soJun 14 17:20
MinceRwhen the Sun goes red giant, no amount of praying or SJW nonsense or other ideological nonsense will save life on Earth from itJun 14 17:21
MinceRonly science and technology willJun 14 17:21
CrystalMaththere's also the other thing: people with children need a bigger budgetJun 14 17:22
MinceRi have no children and i still need a bigger budgetJun 14 17:22
CrystalMaththey can no longer afford to devote to ideologiesJun 14 17:22
MinceRif onlyJun 14 17:22
CrystalMathi would like some statistical data on the signers of the RMS petitions, how many on each side have childrenJun 14 17:23
CrystalMathi think i really am on to something, but i've got nothing as far as evidence is concernedJun 14 17:23
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CrystalMathfor example i know that all of the people i debated on ##rms in 2019, all of the biggest anti-RMS voices were people who've had childrenJun 14 17:24
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CrystalMaththey either mentioned it or linked to their website which mentions itJun 14 17:24
MinceR"wouldn't somebody please think of the children?"Jun 14 17:24
schestowitzmakes senseJun 14 17:24
schestowitzthe "real world" crowdJun 14 17:24
schestowitzthey fear RMSJun 14 17:24
schestowitzbecause he represents something they wanted to be but could not or cannot anymoreJun 14 17:25
schestowitztoo debt-saddledJun 14 17:25
schestowitzand indebted to kids, college etc.Jun 14 17:25
schestowitzsucks to be them...Jun 14 17:25
schestowitzI have a sister like this...Jun 14 17:25
techrights-botA Parade of 'Yes Men': EPO's Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-budget-and-finance-committee/ #epo #europe #corruption #litigation #patentsJun 14 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Parade of โ€˜Yes Menโ€™: EPOโ€™s Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary | TechrightsJun 14 17:37
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tr-bridge[immibis/tr] the real world does not care about some random loser who eats toenailsJun 14 17:49
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] the real world cares about getting things done, which is usually best served by proprietary softwareJun 14 17:50
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] nice baitJun 14 17:50
psydroidproprietary software for allJun 14 17:50
tr-bridge[immibis/tr] "you pay me $100 and i'll give you a computer that can run word". doneJun 14 17:50
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] and your punishment is using wordJun 14 17:51
psydroidproprietary software runs the worldJun 14 17:51
psydroidall supercomputers, servers and embedded devicesJun 14 17:51
MinceRyeah, so many proprietary kernels on the top500 list :>Jun 14 17:52
psydroid:)Jun 14 17:52
psydroidI think it's selfish to want to destroy a person, the movement and organisation he started just because you fear for your own future finances in a world where free software had wonJun 14 17:54
MinceRi don't even know why they fear for thatJun 14 17:54
psydroidif you are afraid you're not going to be able to make ends meet, a job in IT may not be for you anymoreJun 14 17:55
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MinceRit's obvious that there are a lot of governments that can be corrupted into spending the people's money on the shoddiest proprietary crapware availableJun 14 17:55
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psydroidbut I don't think it will turn out like thatJun 14 17:55
MinceRand that there are a lot of hipsters that will pay anything to have an alleged IT device with their cult's logo on itJun 14 17:55
techrights-bot[Meme] #EPO 'Lawfulness' as Crude Budget Wars http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/ #patents #patent #europe #corruptionJun 14 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO โ€˜Lawfulnessโ€™ as Crude Budget Wars | TechrightsJun 14 17:55
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psydroidwhatever advantage there may once have been for proprietary hardware and software, the world is increasingly turning to commodity hardware and free softwareJun 14 17:57
MinceRit isn't exactly difficult to do better than deliberately crap software and hardwareJun 14 17:57
psydroidit's completely natural that old companies will die and new ones will spring upJun 14 17:57
MinceRlike Backdoors10 with its built-in keylogger and Intel hardware with its built-in hardware backdoorJun 14 17:58
psydroidsurvival of the fittest, I guessJun 14 17:58
MinceRand UEFI hardware with built-in vendor lock-inJun 14 17:58
psydroidso now Nervana is dead, Altera in a state of limbo and the next victim will be SiFiveJun 14 17:58
techrights-botNew on #ibm decline: "I don't understand why anybody still has the illusion on the survivability of Power architecture. The installation base of Power ISA is less than 1%. It takes time and resource commitment to revive it. Apple succeeded in the late 1990s. Do you see ibm makes any resource commitment?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#repliesJun 14 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffsJun 14 17:59
psydroidIntel's track record is impressiveJun 14 17:59
techrights-botNew on #ibm decline: "Power declining is not new - it was already having problems meeting shipping targets since at least early 200x and has been on a competitive decline since. This was the main reason why Apple switched from Power to Intel in 2005." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#repliesJun 14 17:59
psydroidApple bought PA Semi and could have been competitive with the POWER ISA, but why should they?Jun 14 18:00
schestowitzIntelligence Agency IntelJun 14 18:00
psydroidthere are no new initiatives using the POWER ISA apart from what is coming out of IBM and some fringe Raptor and LibreSOC stuffJun 14 18:01
MinceRapple despises their own customers too much to even tryJun 14 18:01
MinceRthey deserve each otherJun 14 18:02
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schestowitzcuriously enough, in spite of freenode losing users, we still have many people hereJun 14 18:07
schestowitzand even after some things loud ircclown got bannedJun 14 18:07
schestowitzand some freenode staff leftJun 14 18:07
schestowitzlet's hope for a calm IRC week aheadJun 14 18:07
schestowitzwe have tons of patent material to publishJun 14 18:07
techrights-botMichael Meeks: "Subscribed to Musescore, some quartet action. J. took H. & N. off to stay with B&A for a bit." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-06-13.html yes, THAT #MusescoreJun 14 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-06-13.html )Jun 14 18:08
techrights-botWhy on Earth is #Microsoft not even mentioned here? Lobbying? Bribery? 'Campaigning'? โš“ https://www.maketecheasier.com/legislation-break-up-tech-monopolies/ ไท‰ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Legislation to Break Up Tech Monopolies Inching Closer - Make Tech EasierJun 14 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJun 14 18:10
techrights-bot#microsoft loves to pretend that it's everywhere and in everything, except when it comes to regulation, antitrust, and break-up. Then Microsoft pretends it does not even exist!Jun 14 18:11
techrights-botYou know you're being lied to when companies like Facebook and Apple are accused of being too big or monopolies, whereas Microsoft is somehow magically 'benign' and barely exists...Jun 14 18:12
techrights-bot"re-discovered Android-Studio's love of consuming all memory and burning us deeply into swap." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blogJun 14 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog )Jun 14 18:16
techrights-bot#ibm #collapse "who in the right mind will buy a hardware business with less than 1% of installation base? If the BU is sold, it will either go to a bottom feeder, or one of the WITCH. Working for either is as unpleasant as working for ibm." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#repliesJun 14 18:25
techrights-botLOL #ibm "People take every Thursday and Friday whole day off. ( Entire team)." [...] "I bet many other IBMers are doing the same and that's why company hasn't grown in last few years." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#repliesJun 14 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffsJun 14 18:27
techrights-bot"Also, my friend's team in #IBM works for 10-15 hrs weekly. It's slightly more than us but still we can enjoy every Friday together. They have only Friday offs. This is why we love IBM and still here. We don't care about execs or IBM at all. All people know IBM is drowning and they are not going to give any good raises or bonuses. So it's how we make our life happy." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#repliesJun 14 18:28
techrights-botReview: Bodhi Linux 6.0.0 โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152275Jun 14 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Bodhi Linux 6.0.0 | Tux MachinesJun 14 18:30
techrights-botIntroducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152274Jun 14 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud | Tux MachinesJun 14 18:30
techrights-botALL "mobile" things have LONG been #fakeSecurity ... starting with the hardware https://symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/mobile-apps-ssl-locksJun 14 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com | Breaking SSL Locks: App Developers Behaving Badly | Symantec BlogsJun 14 18:31
techrights-bot"Somehow, this didnโ€™t get posted when I hit the post button, and I never noticed!" Do you not even double-check? Seems basic. https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6088Jun 14 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Winner, Name that Ware April 2021 ยซ bunnie's blogJun 14 18:33
psydroidif buying the POWER BU gives you hardware engineers, you could have them retarget the processor to RISC-V and at least have a future. Or you could just let it die.Jun 14 18:35
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psydroidFujitsu and Oracle saw the light and switched to ARM ... IBM never does?Jun 14 18:39
techrights-bot#Kdenlive 21.04.2 released โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152276 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive 21.04.2 released | Tux MachinesJun 14 18:39
techrights-botThe way some media handles #COVID19 can be described as self-serving, especially #Microsoft -connected sites looking to make #Linux sound bad (or like property of Microsoft); the video above discusses this past weekendโ€™s media coverage about โ€œLinuxโ€ โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/ ไท‰ #Techrights | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.teJun 14 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | TechrightsJun 14 18:40
techrights-botThe lack of oversight at the #EPO has long been apparent and it is becoming ever more problematic now that huge sums of money are passed by the EPOโ€™s management to #law firms whose sole role is to fight against aggrieved EPO staff โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-budget-and-finance-committee/ ไท‰ #Techrights | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021Jun 14 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Parade of โ€˜Yes Menโ€™: EPOโ€™s Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary | TechrightsJun 14 18:40
techrights-botA war of attrition against #EPO staff wonโ€™t ensure justice is done; itโ€™ll only increase the number of casualties and accomplish nothing good โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/ ไท‰ #Techrights #europe #corruption #iloat| โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/Jun 14 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO โ€˜Lawfulnessโ€™ as Crude Budget Wars | TechrightsJun 14 18:41
techrights-bot#techrights gemini stats so far today: 9218 total page requests and 858 known hosts. #geminiSpace is really growing FAST! #geminiProtocol #internetJun 14 18:42
techrights-botMore and more people I know (online) nowadays turn their Web sites into GEMINI capsules, with the #www site being just secondary, generated based on their capsule (as automated spew). Gemini easy to manage! https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006694.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006697.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006695.htmlJun 14 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static siteJun 14 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static siteJun 14 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static siteJun 14 18:44
techrights-bot#geminiprotocol is very lightweight and thus easy to host/manage from one's home. On slow connections. Many advantages inc. costs and #freespeech advantages.Jun 14 18:45
techrights-bot#betrusted #precursor #openhardware https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6097Jun 14 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Monitoring the Health of Precursorโ€™s TRNGs ยซ bunnie's blogJun 14 18:46
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techrights-botWhat is a CI/CD pipeline? | โš“ https://opensource.com/article/21/6/what-cicd-pipeline ไท‰ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #LinuxJun 14 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is a CI/CD pipeline? | Opensource.comJun 14 18:50
techrights-bot"Because #Precursor uses an #FPGA for its SoC, we can add new features to the hardware โ€œon the flyโ€." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6094Jun 14 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Upgrading Precursorโ€™s TRNG ยซ bunnie's blogJun 14 18:53
techrights-botJason Perlow from Microsoft doing puff pieces for this joke called "Linux Foundation Research" today!!! It's NOT research. It's a joke. It's QUESTIONNAIRES and stuff... about BRANDING AND MARKETING. They redefine SPAM as "Research". Disgusting.Jun 14 18:56
techrights-bot#LinuxFoundation in a nutshell http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_FoundationJun 14 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsJun 14 18:57
techrights-bot#LinuxFoundation says "celebrating 30 years of Open Source", but Open Source isn't even 23 years old!!!! https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-linux-has-impacted-your-lives-celebrating-30-years-of-open-source/ revisionism: http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/Jun 14 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | How Linux Has Impacted Your Lives - Celebrating 30 Years of Open Source - Linux FoundationJun 14 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Show Your Love for the GNU Operating System With These Banners | TechrightsJun 14 18:59
gustafMinceR: I never had any need to visit a Freenode offiial channel, because staff left us the fuck alone Jun 14 19:02
gustaf17 years under old management - zero problemsJun 14 19:03
gustaf1 week under the new - our channel was taken from us Jun 14 19:03
gustafI have adjusted my priors accordingly Jun 14 19:03
MinceRhallowed are the Ori?Jun 14 19:04
techrights-bot"Time to get your cyberpunk back on as Mechajammer from publisher Modern Wolf and developer Whalenought Studios has just been announced with confirmed #gnu #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/modern-wolf-announces-mechajammer-a-tactical-cyberpunk-turn-based-rpgJun 14 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modern Wolf announces Mechajammer, a tactical cyberpunk turn-based RPG | GamingOnLinuxJun 14 19:05
techrights-bot#IBM 's #RedHat conversions go only in one direction, and one might call this vendor lock-in https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/convert2rhel-adds-official-support-oracle-linux-conversionsJun 14 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Convert2RHEL adds official support for Oracle Linux conversionsJun 14 19:07
techrights-bot"Friends from both Zuul CI and Circle CI stepped up and helped us started to get CI jobs transitioned over from Travis over to their new homes." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/06/14/bye-bye-travis-ci/ #curl would be wise to #deletegithub and self-host. I told Daniel many times before, but he's insistent.Jun 14 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bye bye Travis CI | daniel.haxx.seJun 14 19:09
techrights-bot#ACPI Platform Runtime Mechanism Support Is Getting Underway For Linux - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ACPI-PRM-Linux-Started ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACPI Platform Runtime Mechanism Support Is Getting Underway For Linux - PhoronixJun 14 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJun 14 19:11
techrights-botLinux 5.14 Mainline Should Work With The #RaspberryPi 400 - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Raspberry-Pi-400-Linux-5.14 ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 Mainline Should Work With The Raspberry Pi 400 - PhoronixJun 14 19:11
techrights-bot#PDF Mix Tool 1.0 Released With Overhauled Interface, PDF Metadata Editing And Qt6 Support โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152277 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 19:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PDF Mix Tool 1.0 Released With Overhauled Interface, PDF Metadata Editing And Qt6 Support | Tux MachinesJun 14 19:11
techrights-bot#Intel Publishes Latest TDX Support Patches For Linux - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-TDX-Guest-Patches ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Publishes Latest TDX Support Patches For Linux - PhoronixJun 14 19:12
techrights-botI really love #nz accent :-)Jun 14 19:13
techrights-bot6 ways to increase your Linux sysadmin earning profile and potential | Enable Sysadmin โš“ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/increasing-earning-potential ไท‰ #RedHat #IBM #GNU #LinuxJun 14 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 6 ways to increase your Linux sysadmin earning profile and potential | Enable SysadminJun 14 19:15
techrights-botThis Arduino project is counting to a billion | Arduino Blog โš“ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/14/this-arduino-project-is-counting-to-a-billion/ ไท‰ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This Arduino project is counting to a billion | Arduino BlogJun 14 19:17
techrights-botTagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: Can #memcpy be implemented in #LLVM IR? โš“ http://nhaehnle.blogspot.com/2021/06/can-memcpy-be-implemented-in-llvm-ir.html ไท‰ #nhaehnle #programmingJun 14 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nhaehnle.blogspot.com | Tagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: Can memcpy be implemented in LLVM IR?Jun 14 19:18
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–„โ– avg(k/sec) 30.03 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 74.90โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.23  โŸฒJun 14 19:20
techrights-bot"The idea that an application built on OCP/K8s can be deployed / re-deployed to Z/Power/x86 on-prem or to AWS/Azure/GCP/IBM Cloud simply and easily without making any changes is ridiculous to anyone who has ever deployed an application. This is the late 90s Java "write once run anywhere" nonsense all over again." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#repliesJun 14 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffsJun 14 19:27
techrights-botToward a Respectful #Hardware Production - Purism โš“ https://puri.sm/posts/toward-a-respectful-hardware-production/ ไท‰ #purism #gnu #linuxJun 14 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Toward a Respectful Hardware Production โ€“ PurismJun 14 19:28
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schestowitzMinceR: are those likely spammers?Jun 14 19:30
schestowitzI noticed this pattern...Jun 14 19:30
MinceRyeahJun 14 19:30
schestowitzit's a good thing you shoved a condom over their heads thenJun 14 19:31
MinceRi quieted unidentified users because they started spewing spam hereJun 14 19:31
schestowitzsaboteursJun 14 19:31
techrights-bot"An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,751 and that helps show that many support #gnu founder #rms in charge of #fsf and #freesw (contrary to #corporatemedia lies and defamation)Jun 14 19:32
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techrights-bot#Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152278 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI | Tux MachinesJun 14 19:34
techrights-bot#helloSystem - FreeBSD Based OS Brings another Promising Release 0.5.0 โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152279 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | helloSystem - FreeBSD Based OS Brings another Promising Release 0.5.0 | Tux MachinesJun 14 19:35
techrights-bot#OpenHardware: Librem, Arduino, and Precursor โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152280 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Librem, Arduino, and Precursor | Tux MachinesJun 14 19:35
techrights-botIoThreeโ€™s Company Microconference Accepted into 2021 #Linux Plumbers Conference https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/06/14/iothrees-company-microconference-accepted-into-2021-linux-plumbers-conference/Jun 14 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | IoThreeโ€™s Company Microconference Accepted into 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference โ€“ Linux Plumbers Conference 2021Jun 14 19:38
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AdmFubarhttps://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/06/do-we-even-need-the-computer-fraud-abuse-act-cfaa-van-buren-v-us.htmJun 14 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ericgoldman.org | Do We Even Need the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act (CFAA)?-Van Buren v. US - Technology & Marketing Law BlogJun 14 19:39
techrights-botDo We Even Need the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act ( #CFAA )?-#VanBuren v. US - Technology & Marketing Law Blog โš“ https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/06/do-we-even-need-the-computer-fraud-abuse-act-cfaa-van-buren-v-us.htm ไท‰ #ericgoldman #freeswJun 14 19:41
techrights-bot" #Inacta briefly considered #IBM #RedHat #OpenShift , but realized that the monocluster architecture makes scaling (and multi-cluster management) difficult and would also cause costs to soar." https://www.suse.com/c/inacta-scaling-up-with-kubernetes/Jun 14 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Inacta: Scaling Up with Kubernetes | SUSE CommunitiesJun 14 19:42
techrights-botWith Deskreen, You Can Mirror or Stream Your Linux Computer Screen to Any Device โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152281Jun 14 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | With Deskreen, You Can Mirror or Stream Your Linux Computer Screen to Any Device | Tux MachinesJun 14 19:46
techrights-botSUSE/Red Hat Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152282Jun 14 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 14 19:46
techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152283Jun 14 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 14 19:49
techrights-bot#debian Developers on issues with #ibm #redhat vendor lock-in #ansible http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2021/transilience/my-gripes-with-ansible if only he blasted #systemd like Ansible...Jun 14 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enricozini.org | My gripes with AnsibleJun 14 19:52
AdmFubarhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210610/06275246964/buried-apple-privacy-scandal-undermines-attacks-right-to-repair-legislation.shtmlJun 14 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Buried Apple Privacy Scandal Undermines Its Attacks On Right To Repair Legislation | TechdirtJun 14 19:53
AdmFubarthink what you may....Jun 14 20:01
AdmFubarhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/13/0052214&from=rssJun 14 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | The Human Brain is More Like a Testicle than any Other Organ - SoylentNewsJun 14 20:01
AdmFubarhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/11/2252205&from=rssJun 14 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | India has More than 28,000 "Black Fungus" Cases: Health Minister - SoylentNewsJun 14 20:03
schestowitz"Black Fungus"?Jun 14 20:05
schestowitzwhat is that about?Jun 14 20:05
AdmFubaryeahJun 14 20:05
AdmFubardusty environments, covid, suppressed immune systems... Jun 14 20:06
techrights-botHow to make #programming not about programming. Sounds like those people who try to impose marketing buzzwords and mandatory "meetings" on all of us to reduce productivity, harm users, farm people's data etc. https://skamille.medium.com/an-incomplete-list-of-skills-senior-engineers-need-beyond-coding-8ed4a521b29fJun 14 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skamille.medium.com | An incomplete list of skills senior engineers need, beyond coding | by Camille Fournier | Jun, 2021 | MediumJun 14 20:08
techrights-bot"8.5 years ago, I moved my blog to #Ikiwiki and Branchable. It's now time for me to take the next step and host my blog on my own server. This is how I migrated from Branchable to my own Apache server." https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/self-hosting-ikiwiki-blog/Jun 14 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feeding.cloud.geek.nz | Self-hosting an Ikiwiki blogJun 14 20:09
techrights-botHow do you explain to people that to be a #freesw developer you need to actually engage in #programming and improve coding skills? "Meetings", pandering, pushing CoCs around and interjecting politics into projects is hardly contributing and it can oftentimes actively harm development communities.Jun 14 20:11
techrights-botYes, actually contributing to #freesw by actually writing code is a lot of work and hard work, including learning/training/practising, but we need people who do things, not people who try to stir shit up like Bully de Blanc did...Jun 14 20:14
techrights-bot" #Toradex is extending its Torizon operating system for use as a full IoT development and operations (DevOps) platform for Linux devices." https://www.eletimes.com/extended-platform-for-iot-linux-devicesJun 14 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eletimes.com | NO TITLEJun 14 20:14
techrights-bot#LibreOffice Sidebar converted to โ€žnativeโ€ HTML controls https://eszkadev.blogspot.com/2021/06/sidebar-converted-to-native-html.htmlJun 14 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eszkadev.blogspot.com | What is eszka doing: Sidebar converted to โ€žnativeโ€ HTML controlsJun 14 20:15
techrights-bot#Panfrost now supports OpenGL ES 3.1 on Midgard (Mali T760 and newer) and Bifrost (Mali G31, G52, G76) GPUs - CNX Software โš“ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/14/panfrost-opengl-es-3-1-midgard-mali-t760-bifrost-mali-g31-g52-g76-gpu/ ไท‰ #Linux #Graphics | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Panfrost now supports OpenGL ES 3.1 on Midgard (Mali T760 and newer) and Bifrost (Mali G31, G52, G76) GPUs - CNX SoftwareJun 14 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJun 14 20:16
techrights-bot#Intel #Gallium3D Driver Merged Into Mesa 21.2 For Gen4 Through Haswell Graphics - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Crocus-Has-Landed ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxJun 14 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Gallium3D Driver Merged Into Mesa 21.2 For Gen4 Through Haswell Graphics - PhoronixJun 14 20:17
techrights-botAnother Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge Motherboard Now Works For #Coreboot (ASUS P8Z77-V) - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Coreboot-ASUS-P8Z77-V ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge Motherboard Now Works For Coreboot (ASUS P8Z77-V) - PhoronixJun 14 20:18
techrights-bot"AI designing AI" HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-may-2021 #buzzwordsJun 14 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State of Robotics โ€“ May 2021 | UbuntuJun 14 20:18
techrights-botLinks 14/6/2021: #Kdenlive 21.04.2 and #RaspberryPi 400 Support in Linux โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/kdenlive-21-04-2/ ไท‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/kdenlive-21-04-2/Jun 14 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2021: Kdenlive 21.04.2 and Raspberry Pi 400 Support in Linux | TechrightsJun 14 20:29
techrights-bot#Games : GOG, Mechajammer, and More โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152284 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GOG, Mechajammer, and More | Tux MachinesJun 14 20:29
techrights-bot#Security Leftovers โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152285 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 14 20:30
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers and Ansible โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152286 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers and Ansible | Tux MachinesJun 14 20:30
techrights-bot#Kernel : Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152287 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex | Tux MachinesJun 14 20:30
tr-bridge[XRevan86/tr] https://xkcd.com/2476/Jun 14 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Base RateJun 14 20:41
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tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1006282457/illinois-chemical-plant-explosion-fires-prompt-evacuations-chemtool-rocktonJun 14 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | An Illinois Chemical Plant Explosion And Fires Prompt Evacuations : NPRJun 14 20:44
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] People in the area have ash falling on them.Jun 14 20:52
AdmFubarscarier then the magnesium recycle plant fire here years ago...Jun 14 21:01
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] The cops are advising people to gather at a middle school 3.5 miles away.Jun 14 21:06
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] That's not nearly far enough.Jun 14 21:06
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1006126724/hyundai-plant-in-alabama-pauses-manufacturing-due-to-car-chip-shortageJun 14 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Alabama Hyundai Plant Halts Production Due To Car Ship Shortage : NPRJun 14 21:08
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1000464866/china-has-promised-to-go-carbon-neutral-by-2060-but-coal-is-still-kingJun 14 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | China Has Promised To Go Carbon-Neutral By 2060, But Coal Is Still King : NPRJun 14 21:11
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] China continues to talk out of both sides of their mouth.Jun 14 21:11
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Carbon neutral promises while also building three times more coal power capacity last year as the rest of the world put together.Jun 14 21:11
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–ˆโ–†โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‡โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–ƒโ–†โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–…โ– avg(k/sec) 39.91 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ– avg(k/sec) 42.43โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.28  โŸฒJun 14 21:20
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tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] they're having their kayak and heating it tooJun 14 21:36
schestowitznpr, funded by gates and MicrosoftJun 14 21:42
schestowitzI lost interest when I found out Microsoft too bribes itJun 14 21:42
schestowitzand yet it covers Microsoft 'news'Jun 14 21:43
schestowitzwhile admitting Microsoft pays themJun 14 21:43
schestowitzRIP, NPRJun 14 21:43
schestowitzhttps://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.phpJun 14 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalismโ€™s Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism ReviewJun 14 21:43
techrights-botLinux Mint 20.2 beta ISOs undergo testing and are due soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151779#newJun 14 21:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 โ€œUmaโ€ Announced with New Bulk Renaming App, Beta Is Coming Mid-June | Tux MachinesJun 14 21:44
techrights-bot#DestinationLinux 230: Our Favorite Distros of 2021, So Far https://destinationlinux.org/episode-230/Jun 14 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 230: Our Favorite Distros of 2021, So Far - Destination LinuxJun 14 21:47
techrights-bot#google the back doors company is #openwashing its "homomorphic" #encryption package https://lwn.net/Articles/859688/rss Google... same company that put BACK-DOORED 'encryption' INSIDE LINUXJun 14 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google's fully homomorphic encryption package [LWN.net]Jun 14 21:55
techrights-botKernel: Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152287Jun 14 21:57
techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152288Jun 14 21:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 14 21:57
tr-bridge[psymin/tr] rip NPR :(Jun 14 22:08
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schestowitzpsydroid: MinceR: I wrote about the whole Linux thingJun 14 22:13
schestowitzwanna proofread?Jun 14 22:13
MinceRyeahJun 14 22:14
psydroidsureJun 14 22:14
schestowitzdraft, MinceR http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/Jun 14 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Todayโ€™s Linux Standing for the Opposite of What Linux Users Stand for | TechrightsJun 14 22:14
MinceRlol @ methodology from IDCJun 14 22:16
MinceRschestowitz: looks good to meJun 14 22:16
schestowitzthanksJun 14 22:17
schestowitzIDC part of IDGJun 14 22:17
schestowitzchinaJun 14 22:17
schestowitzno longer even doing articlesJun 14 22:17
schestowitzjust running sponsored puff piecesJun 14 22:17
schestowitzin what USED to be news sitesJun 14 22:17
psydroidthe text looks fine to meJun 14 22:18
schestowitzthanks, must be luckJun 14 22:18
schestowitzsingle passJun 14 22:18
techrights-botTodayโ€™s Linux Standing for the Opposite of What #Linux Users Stand for http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ #linuxfoundation #kernel #microsoft #openwashingJun 14 22:21
techrights-botLinux Foundation: sold, defunct. Sold to #microsoft and friends on the cheap... http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#June_2021 #zemlinPAC #traitor #selfharmJun 14 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsJun 14 22:22
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tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hBwkA4SSSoJun 14 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Ranked All Asian Car Brands from Worst to Best - YouTubeJun 14 22:40
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] Subaru is worse than Kia.Jun 14 22:40
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] WowJun 14 22:40
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*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitzJun 14 22:42
tr-bridge[DaemonFC/tr] I would think that worse than exploding engines would be hard.Jun 14 22:42
schestowitzMincer: I can't seem to be able to remove the q modeJun 14 22:43
schestowitzeven as opJun 14 22:43
schestowitzI need this for the ipfs botJun 14 22:43
schestowitzotherwise, like yesterday, things would not run properly. irc logs and allJun 14 22:43
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] schestowitz/fn: /mode #techrights -q $~aJun 14 22:44
*schestowitz sets mode -q #techrights $~aJun 14 22:45
schestowitzthanksJun 14 22:45
schestowitzipfs bot isn't stableJun 14 22:45
schestowitzso 'voicing' it isn't always enough, as I'm often asleep when the cron jobs are runJun 14 22:46
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] you could give it autovoice in chanserv, i guessJun 14 22:47
schestowitzif you know how to do thatJun 14 22:47
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] i can't look it up because services are not on my sideJun 14 22:47
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] but i think it's something like /quote chanserv flags #techrights +V techrights-ipfsJun 14 22:48
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] provided it has a nickserv accountJun 14 22:48
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] if not, it might work with a hostmaskJun 14 22:48
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tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] /quote chanserv help flags probably tells you how to do itJun 14 22:49
schestowitzthanks for the pointerJun 14 22:49
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] npJun 14 22:49
schestowitzantother wave of netsplits just spat out about 20 usersJun 14 22:49
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] maybe they're migrating to another ircd alreadyJun 14 22:50
schestowitzI think they need a policy fixJun 14 22:50
schestowitzthe daemon isn't the issueJun 14 22:50
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] indeedJun 14 22:50
schestowitzthe demons who run this network are the issueJun 14 22:50
schestowitzwith nicknames like "Red Horseman"Jun 14 22:50
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] especially since what i thought the main attraction of the new ircd was (spamfilter) is allegedly also available in this oneJun 14 22:51
schestowitzI thought misusing op to intimidate people was a violation of policyJun 14 22:51
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] i don't think the cool names are the problemJun 14 22:51
schestowitzbut you know coc things, they don't apply to those who introduce themJun 14 22:51
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] k-lining people for disagreeing on a support channel definitely isJun 14 22:51
schestowitzanyway, I checked netsplit.de todayJun 14 22:51
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] and k-lining irccloud for an insult on twatter isn't a good look eitherJun 14 22:52
schestowitznot looking too good for FNJun 14 22:52
schestowitzwhat tweet?Jun 14 22:52
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] well yeah, k-lining people tends to decrease the number of users :>Jun 14 22:52
schestowitzI didn't know about that...Jun 14 22:52
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] https://nitter.fdn.fr/IRCCloud/status/1397475744448663564Jun 14 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.fdn.fr | IRCCloud (@IRCCloud): "The Freenode network is under new management, and the new staff have taken over hundreds of legitimate channels. We strongly urge anyone still connected to that network to check that your channels are safe and take immediate steps to move to another network." | FDNitterJun 14 22:52
schestowitzwas that shortly before the ban?Jun 14 22:53
tr-bridge[MinceR/tr] i haven't checkedJun 14 22:53
schestowitzMay 26thJun 14 22:53
schestowitzso long before it was k-lined wholesaleJun 14 22:53
schestowitzthe moment they took over like 700 channels was a turning pointJun 14 22:54
schestowitzthe clarification wasn't even an apologyJun 14 22:54
schestowitzeither way, it was the moment they  squeezed the triggerJun 14 22:54
schestowitzapology could limit the damage somewhatJun 14 22:55
schestowitzI am making an Hungarian meme now...Jun 14 22:55
schestowitzabout EPOJun 14 22:55
techrights-bot[Meme] There Are No Elections in Mafia-Type Regimes; It's About Family and Friends... http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/mafia-culture/ #epo #entryism #corruption #europe #patentsJun 14 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] There Are No Elections in Mafia-Type Regimes; Itโ€™s About Family and Friendsโ€ฆ | TechrightsJun 14 23:07
techrights-botHardly Shocking and Not At All Surprising That Thugs Who Run the #EPO Hired External Thugs to Help Them Oppress Aggrieved Staff http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-legal-bullying/ #europe #corruption #germany #iloatJun 14 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hardly Shocking and Not At All Surprising That Thugs Who Run the EPO Hired External Thugs to Help Them Oppress Aggrieved Staff | TechrightsJun 14 23:19
techrights-ipfs โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–ƒโ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–‚โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ– avg(k/sec) 25.65 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–‚โ–โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 55.96โ–• swarm size (avg): 245.31  โŸฒJun 14 23:20
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schestowitzI'll put q back on after the cron job 3 hours from now...Jun 14 23:23
techrights-botRichi Jennings at #microsoft propaganda site #securityboulevard doesn't know the difference between polkit and linuxJun 14 23:24
techrights-botSometimes #microsoft spreads the anti- #linux FUD directly, not through proxies like #blackduck http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Black_DuckJun 14 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Black Duck - TechrightsJun 14 23:25
techrights-botToday in #Techrights โ€ข ๐•ฟ๐–š๐– ๐•ธ๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–Ž๐–“๐–Š๐–˜ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152289 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJun 14 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJun 14 23:26
techrights-bot"The #FreeSW landscape is chock-full of talented developers creating powerful tools" - Urgent Comms โš“ https://urgentcomm.com/2021/06/14/open-source-tools-for-the-iot-ecosystem/ ไท‰ #urgentcomm | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latestJun 14 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-urgentcomm.com | Open-source tools for the IoT ecosystem โ€“ Urgent CommsJun 14 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJun 14 23:28
techrights-botWhat if the #fedora 'community' found out that their steward #ibm helped Nazi Germany (second-biggest client) massacre gays? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/pride-month-celebration/Jun 14 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Pride Month Celebration โ€“ Fedora Community BlogJun 14 23:32
techrights-botIBM R&D can write a ton of patents and get one chip with a heartbeat out of a few hundred wafer starts. Nothing is scalable and GF got screwed. GF backs out. #IBM has better lawyers and are making it look like GF is the bad guy." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1blNh40h#repliesJun 14 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WHY IBM IS SUING GLOBALFOUNDRIES OVER CHIP ROADMAP FAILURES???? - post regarding IBM layoffsJun 14 23:34
techrights-bothe so-called #LinuxFoundation or the โ€œCorporate Linux Foundationโ€ is alienating many of the original users of GNU/Linux and it still insults their intelligence โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ ไท‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/Jun 14 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Todayโ€™s Linux Standing for the Opposite of What Linux Users Stand for | TechrightsJun 14 23:35
techrights-botWith no real concept or notion of โ€œelectionsโ€ (the so-called โ€˜mafiaโ€™ members choose their successors and colleagues) the #EPO โ€™s #patent examiners clearly need outside intervention, e.g. inquest by the #EU authorities โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/mafia-culture/ ไท‰ #Techrights | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/mafia-culture/Jun 14 23:35
techrights-botWith the #EPO โ€™s management flooding the bank accounts of aggressive law firms (at our expense) we need to ask serious questions about how such a โ€œMafiaโ€ โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-legal-bullying/ ไท‰ #Techrights #patents #iloat #ilo| โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-legal-bullying/Jun 14 23:36

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