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techrights-newsTech ageism = pushing unstable, unproven, dodgy and without assurance of any future stuff (marketing cannot compensate for it) just for the sake of it. Hipsters do this a lot and they destroy companies by building things on top of quicksand like Adobe Trash.Oct 21 00:00
techrights-newsThe Snoring Guardian listens while you sleep and vibrates when you start to snore | Arduino Blog โš“ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/20/the-snoring-guardian-listens-while-you-sleep-and-vibrates-when-you-start-to-snore/ ไท‰ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #HackingOct 21 00:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The Snoring Guardian listens while you sleep and vibrates when you start to snore | Arduino BlogOct 21 00:00
techrights-newsA Good DAC Canโ€™t Compensate For A Poor Source https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/know-audio-it-all-depends-on-the-dac/ #sound #audio #hardware #dacOct 21 00:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Know Audio: It All Depends On The DAC | HackadayOct 21 00:04
techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: LiPo, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino Projects โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157023 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: LiPo, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino Projects | Tux MachinesOct 21 00:05
techrights-news#IBM / #RedHat Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157024 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 00:06
techrights-newsThe #EPO has become a truly awful place/employer to work for; salary is 2,000 euros for some (despite workplace stress, sometimes relocation to a foreign country) โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/working-for-epo-despots/ ไท‰ #Techrights | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/working-for-epo-despots/Oct 21 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Living as a Human Resource, Working for Despots | TechrightsOct 21 00:07
techrights-newsThe Finnish outpost has long been strategic to the EPO because it can help control the vote of four or more nations; evidence suggests this has not changed โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/helsinki-finland-epo/ ไท‰ #Techrights #fi #finland #epo | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/helsinki-finland-epo/Oct 21 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOโ€™s Overseer/Overseen Collusion โ€” Part XVIII: Helsinkiโ€™s Accord | TechrightsOct 21 00:08
techrights-newsoday we examine who has been running the Finnish #patent office and has moreover voted in the #EPO during the ballot on unlawful โ€œStrike Regulationsโ€ โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-baltic-corridor/ ไท‰ #Techrights | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-baltic-corridor/Oct 21 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | โ€˜Cluster-Votingโ€™ in the European Patent Office/Organisation (When a Country With 1.9 Million Citizens Has the Same Voting Power as a Country With 83.1 Million Citizens) | TechrightsOct 21 00:08
techrights-newsFervent supporters of #TeamBattistelli or #TeamCampinos (a dark EPO era) are showing their allegiances; #WIPO and #EPO have abused staff similarly over the past decade or so โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/gurry-and-alicja-adamczak/ ไท‰ #Techrights | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/gurry-and-alicja-adamczak/Oct 21 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] โ€œJudge a Person Both by His Friends and Enemiesโ€ | TechrightsOct 21 00:09
techrights-newsI'll always remember #borisnaro as the toilet paper or loo minister. Get elected, use media to cause panic over 'shortages' of toilet paper (self-fulfilling prophecy; not even good for sales as people stop buying it later; oversupply at home and under-use due to perceived scarcity). Tories made #uk seem like a joke to #euOct 21 00:21
techrights-news#techrights turns 15 in about a fortnight from now...Oct 21 00:22
techrights-newsMark #Zuckerberg to be named in major #privacy lawsuit - Protocol โ€” The people, power and politics of tech โš“ https://www.protocol.com/mark-zuckerberg-dc-privacy-lawsuit ไท‰ #protocol | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mark Zuckerberg to be named in major privacy lawsuit - Protocol โ€” The people, power and politics of techOct 21 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 21 00:23
techrights-news#Programming Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157025 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 00:29
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s ๐˜›๐˜ถ๐˜น ๐˜”๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157026 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 00:32
techrights-newsLinks 21/10/2021: #PostgreSQL #JDBC 42.3.0 and Maui Report โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/maui-report/ ไท‰ #Techrights #FreeSW | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/maui-report/Oct 21 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/10/2021: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.0 and Maui Report | TechrightsOct 21 00:33
techrights-news#spam disguised as 'article'. Shame on #unixmen for feeding cheaters https://www.unixmen.com/how-programming-homework-can-be-done-faster/Oct 21 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/how-programming-homework-can-be-done-faster/ )Oct 21 00:36
-altlink_e54/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: unixmen.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unixmen.com/how-programming-homework-can-be-done-faster/Oct 21 00:36
techrights-newsOld: #VeryStableGenius https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mary-trump-book-sats-cheat-brother-died-too-much-and-never-enough-a9606661.htmlOct 21 00:37
-altlink_e54/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mary-trump-book-sats-cheat-brother-died-too-much-and-never-enough-a9606661.htmlOct 21 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Mary Trump book: President paid someone to take SATs for him and went to movies night his brother died, niece claims | The Independent | The IndependentOct 21 00:38
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Apparently the local store lost $2.7 million to theft this year.Oct 21 00:40
DaemonFCThat's actually down $200,000 from last year.Oct 21 00:40
DaemonFCThis is why businesses end up closing when they try to operate in places like New Jersey and Illinois where the police don't do shit and the Democrats side with the criminals.Oct 21 00:40
schestowitz-TRwhich store?Oct 21 00:40
schestowitz-TRhow big a store?Oct 21 00:41
schestowitz-TRtoday I saw fools in aldi using the machinesOct 21 00:41
schestowitz-TRinstead of getting service and protecting people's jobsOct 21 00:41
schestowitz-TRI heard these machines allow for much mischief/theftOct 21 00:41
schestowitz-TRand that's why some shops decide to pull away from theseOct 21 00:41
schestowitz-TRlike proctoring, detecting of "cheaters" is a gas!Oct 21 00:42
DaemonFCAdjusted for inflation and sales figures, in Indiana, we lost about 1/10th as much to theft.Oct 21 00:42
schestowitz-TRI mean, the machines are like polygraph crap... only works if you BELIEVE they workOct 21 00:42
DaemonFCBecause different demographics and law is enforced.Oct 21 00:42
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schestowitz-TRpoor people still smallOct 21 00:43
schestowitz-TRrich people steal bigOct 21 00:43
schestowitz-TRpoor people steal foodOct 21 00:43
DaemonFCThe machines do allow for theft.Oct 21 00:43
schestowitz-TRrich people bribe to steal from taxpayersOct 21 00:43
DaemonFCSo many people walk past there and pretend they scanned it.Oct 21 00:43
schestowitz-TRand to legalise tax avoidanceOct 21 00:43
DaemonFCThen they wait for the receipt checker to bother someone else, and circle around.Oct 21 00:43
schestowitz-TRit relies on the "honour system"Oct 21 00:43
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, This isn't me saying this so here you go.Oct 21 00:44
schestowitz-TRin places in today's world that's almost nowhereOct 21 00:44
DaemonFCTheir last loss prevention person, turns out, got fired for saying.....Oct 21 00:44
schestowitz-TRevem Swiss rail abandoned the honour systemOct 21 00:44
schestowitz-TRhere it works only in some farms in suburbsOct 21 00:44
DaemonFC"Only black people come in here and steal. White people don't steal anything."Oct 21 00:44
DaemonFCAnd he said it to a black employee!Oct 21 00:44
schestowitz-TRhe could say "poor people"Oct 21 00:45
schestowitz-TRwe know why many people are in the US are poor and black and it's to do with historyOct 21 00:45
schestowitz-TRcycle of povertyOct 21 00:45
DaemonFCI hear they're hiring him back once his 6 months in the doghouse is up though.Oct 21 00:45
schestowitz-TRso the colour aspect is a convenient surrogateOct 21 00:45
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schestowitz-TRyes, people who came from slave families are poorertOct 21 00:45
DaemonFCThey need help more than they can afford to blacklist people forever now.Oct 21 00:45
schestowitz-TRthat much we knowOct 21 00:45
schestowitz-TRmaybe IBM can make those checkout machinesOct 21 00:46
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/sending-emailssend-them-linux-terminal">Sending EmailsSend them from Linux Terminal? | Linux Journal</a></h5>Oct 21 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Sending EmailsSend them from Linux Terminal? | Linux JournalOct 21 00:46
schestowitzoopsOct 21 00:46
schestowitzhttps://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/Oct 21 00:46
-altlink_e54/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: theintercept.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/Oct 21 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | IBM Used NYPD Footage to Develop Skin Color Video SearchOct 21 00:46
DaemonFCIBM loves BLMOct 21 00:46
DaemonFCThey love them so much there's pretty much zilch in the way of black employees.Oct 21 00:47
schestowitz-TRIBM: we're not raysistOct 21 00:47
DaemonFCUnless they need their toilets cleaned.Oct 21 00:47
schestowitz-TRwe even changed our codeOct 21 00:47
schestowitz-TRwe changed the variable namesOct 21 00:47
schestowitz-TRno more git -> masterOct 21 00:47
schestowitz-TRnow it's Git->MasterPOct 21 00:47
schestowitz-TRhomage to the rapperOct 21 00:47
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/Oct 21 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its โ€œSupport for the Black Communityโ€ | TechrightsOct 21 00:48
schestowitzZemlin: me no raysistOct 21 00:48
schestowitzme do tweets!Oct 21 00:48
schestowitzf-ing hypocritesOct 21 00:48
kingoffrance"In computing, as a common rule of thumb, we ought not mock what's old just for being old. Sometimes older is actually better."Oct 21 00:48
kingoffrancechesterton's fence is the best thing i ever sawOct 21 00:49
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/Oct 21 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | TechrightsOct 21 00:49
kingoffranceif you know *why* something was put there, then replace it.  if not, go learn that :)Oct 21 00:49
schestowitzyeahOct 21 00:49
schestowitzsometimes old is more expensiveOct 21 00:49
kingoffrancethere is nothing the matter with ripping out old...but only if you know what you are dyingOct 21 00:49
kingoffrance*doingOct 21 00:49
schestowitzlike products that last 30 years, not 5Oct 21 00:49
kingoffranceelse, you will create more problems, messing with things and unintended consequences, etc.  not to mention reinventing the wheelOct 21 00:50
schestowitz-TRor lightbulbs that last 5 years, not 5 monthsOct 21 00:50
DaemonFCAnyway, this tells me something.Oct 21 00:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: Mozilla responded to you https://marksurman.commons.ca/2021/10/20/exploring-better-data-stewardship-at-mozilla/Oct 21 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marksurman.commons.ca | Exploring better data stewardship at Mozilla - Mark SurmanOct 21 00:50
DaemonFCThey don't really give a shit that he said it.Oct 21 00:50
DaemonFCThey just want rid of him until nobody there remembers it.Oct 21 00:50
kingoffrancei would even say:  you cant subvert/overthrow something properly without studying it firstOct 21 00:50
DaemonFCThen they slip him back in.Oct 21 00:51
kingoffranceelse, you will miss your targetOct 21 00:51
kingoffrancelearning the "old" is required IMO to "change" anythingOct 21 00:51
kingoffranceeven if all the "old" is bad, still need to learn it first IMOOct 21 00:51
techrights-news#Mozilla fails to admit that #spying on #Firefox users is wrong; now it's misframing the criticism and responds to a straw man https://marksurman.commons.ca/2021/10/20/exploring-better-data-stewardship-at-mozilla/Oct 21 00:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, I don't see where he mentioned me at all.Oct 21 00:52
kingoffrancei am a big fan of "inteceptor pattern" design pattern ...to be transparent, have to learn the "old"Oct 21 00:52
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techrights-news"Previously, he was a teacher and researcher at Drexel University and even worked at #Mozilla Foundation for a stint. Now, heโ€™s the founder of Codepip, a platform that offers games that teach players how to code. Park has made a couple games himself: #Flexbox Froggy and Grid Garden." https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/10/hacks-decoded-thomas-park-founder-of-codepip/Oct 21 00:53
-altlink_e54/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: mozilla.org | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/10/hacks-decoded-thomas-park-founder-of-codepip/Oct 21 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Hacks Decoded: Thomas Park, Founder of Codepip - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blogOct 21 00:53
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: i was half jokingOct 21 00:53
kingoffrancetheres ways to modernize something piecemeal, compatible, and then theres "move fast and break things" LOLOct 21 00:53
schestowitz-TRobviously mozilla knows it gets busted over privacy liesOct 21 00:53
schestowitz-TRyou're one of manyOct 21 00:53
schestowitz-TRand they spied on you, you had noticed some things before saying it hereOct 21 00:54
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, This is the most Dilbert thing ever.Oct 21 00:54
DaemonFCThey have 4 whole pages of nonsense here.Oct 21 00:54
techrights-news"Iโ€™ve been working at #Mozilla for six years today. Wow." Unless the management and board get replaced, Mozilla and #firefox will collapse very soon (when #google pulls the trigger) https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2021/10/19/six-year-moziversary/ see http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/Oct 21 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chuttenblog.wordpress.com | Six-Year Moziversary โ€“ chuttenblogOct 21 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todayโ€™s Mozilla Management | TechrightsOct 21 00:55
DaemonFCNot once do they address the fact that the only way to protect your data is to not allow them to have it.Oct 21 00:55
DaemonFCBecause once they do, you don't know what they do with it from there.Oct 21 00:55
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DaemonFCAnd the government can force them to violate their privacy policy.Oct 21 00:55
techrights-newsFlailing orgs and companies use #racism to distract from their abuses https://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/ http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/Oct 21 00:56
-altlink_e54/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: theintercept.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/Oct 21 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | IBM Used NYPD Footage to Develop Skin Color Video SearchOct 21 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its โ€œSupport for the Black Communityโ€ | TechrightsOct 21 00:56
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC:  yes, examplesOct 21 00:56
schestowitz-TR*exactlyOct 21 00:56
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kingoffrancelearn the masters first, then after that do whatever the hell you want -- (paraphrase) salvador dali :)Oct 21 00:57
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techrights-news#Mozilla: Six-Year Moziversary, Thomas Park/Codepip, and Weak Response to Critics of #Firefox #Spyware โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157027Oct 21 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Six-Year Moziversary, Thomas Park/Codepip, and Weak Response to Critics of Firefox Spyware | Tux MachinesOct 21 01:04
techrights-newsDevelopment version: #GIMP 2.99.8 Released โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157028 #GNU #freesw #TuxMachinesOct 21 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development version: GIMP 2.99.8 Released | Tux MachinesOct 21 01:04
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techrights-news#mozilla biz model 2020: hey, we have all those #firefox users. Would you, #SurveillanceCapitalism company, like to prey on them with our assistance? We'll charge a fee per user. Our users are the products we (re)sell to you. "Audiences" http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/Oct 21 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wonโ€™t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | TechrightsOct 21 01:06
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: in a nutshell ^Oct 21 01:06
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157029 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 21 01:07
techrights-newsAre We Anti Cheat Yet?: #Valve Has A Plan - Invidious โš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nshZ1Wu3kgo ไท‰ #video #invidious #gamesOct 21 01:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Are We Anti Cheat Yet?: Valve Has A Plan - InvidiousOct 21 01:10
techrights-news#FLOSSWeekly 652: Faces of #freesw - Peter Adams https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/652Oct 21 01:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | Faces of Open SourceOct 21 01:10
techrights-news#microsoft is shipping #malware and a Microsoft partner, #Sonatype , blames the recipients https://blog.sonatype.com/newly-found-npm-malware-mines-cryptocurrency-on-windows-linux-macos-devices go shill #azure , Sonatype... they could use your help. Losses and #layoffsOct 21 01:12
-altlink_e54/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: sonatype.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.sonatype.com/newly-found-npm-malware-mines-cryptocurrency-on-windows-linux-macos-devicesOct 21 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sonatype.com | Newly Found npm Malware Mines Cryptocurrency on Windows, Linux, macOS DevicesOct 21 01:12
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techrights-news"Update on what happened across the #GNOME project in the week from October 01 to October 08." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2021/10/twig-13/ #gnu #linuxOct 21 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thisweek.gnome.org | #13 It beginsโ€ฆ ยท This Week in GNOMEOct 21 01:14
techrights-news"Seriously! โ€œFor a whopping five-hours-plus, people read news,โ€, says Niemanlab. As in โ€œreading news by going straight to the websites of news outlets, without all the filtering, noise and profiling that is the hallmark of those platforms." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/facebook-down-gave-people-a-glimp-of-a-better-world/Oct 21 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Facebook down gave people a glimp of a better world | Stop at Zona-MOct 21 01:15
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techrights-newsIf you use flimsy buzzwords like "Internet of Things (IoT)" then maybe you don't deserve a career. #buzzwords don't make up for actual understanding of basic concepts. Companies that hire based on #marketing lingo aren't worth working for, either. They'll drown in #debt and lies. https://www.fosslife.org/top-skills-grow-your-career-iotOct 21 01:17
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techrights-newsAnd BTW, #zdnet is NOT a news site! It's a marketing, propaganda and deception site thinly disguised as reporting. #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetOct 21 01:18
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techrights-news#Docker and #Fedora 35 https://fedoramagazine.org/docker-and-fedora-35/ #redhat #ibmOct 21 01:19
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techrights-newsQuit Hunching Over Your Screen With A Little Robotic Help | Hackaday โš“ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/quit-hunching-over-your-screen-with-a-little-robotic-help/ ไท‰ #Arduino project. #deletegithub though. It's #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubOct 21 01:22
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techrights-news"I wonder if PJ still has that red dress, and whether it's time for it yet. PJ, if you're listening, I hope you're doing well." #groklaw #novell #ibm #sco https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/393/overOct 21 01:23
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techrights-newsIntel has one again outsourced a project, this time ControlFlag, to Microsoft ProprietarySoftwareOct 21 01:25
techrights-news#Intel has once again outsourced a project, this time #ControlFlag , to #Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware ... see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksOct 21 01:25
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techrights-newsBuilding A Hammer Powered By Gunpowder | Hackaday โš“ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/building-a-hammer-powered-by-gunpowder/ ไท‰ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 01:27
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techrights-newsFSF: Pumpkins, markets, and one bad #Apple โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157030 #GNU #freesw #TuxMachinesOct 21 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pumpkins, markets, and one bad Apple | Tux MachinesOct 21 01:28
techrights-newsAMD GPU Driver Looks To Make Use Of Intel's New Buddy Allocator Code In The Linux Kernel - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Intel-Buddy-Allocator ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 01:29
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techrights-news#NVIDIA will #deletegithub if it cares about #freesw https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-CUDA-11.5 sending things to #github helps #proprietarySoftware and harms our cause http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksOct 21 01:30
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techrights-newsImpish Indri Ubuntu-fr t-shirt http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31460Oct 21 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 โ€œImpish Indriโ€ Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whatโ€™s New | Tux MachinesOct 21 01:32
techrights-newsThis Arduino radio looks like something from 100 years ago | Arduino Blog โš“ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/20/this-arduino-radio-looks-like-something-from-100-years-ago/ ไท‰ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 01:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This Arduino radio looks like something from 100 years ago | Arduino BlogOct 21 01:34
techrights-news#Plasma 5.23 available for Kubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) in backports PPA โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157031 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDEOct 21 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.23 available for Kubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) in backports PPA | Tux MachinesOct 21 01:34
techrights-news#ZDNet has resorted to shamelessly quoting and relaying talking points from #Microsoft -connected operatives, basically painting #Windows with #backdoors as "OK" and #Linux guilty for things that have nothing to do with Linux. #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetOct 21 01:37
techrights-newsLabyrinthian Circuit Sculpture Evokes Moods With Sound And Light | Hackaday โš“ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/labyrinthian-circuit-sculpture-evokes-moods-with-sound-and-light/ ไท‰ #hackadayOct 21 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Labyrinthian Circuit Sculpture Evokes Moods With Sound And Light | HackadayOct 21 01:38
techrights-newsUtterly foolish and self-harming when they outsource this to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware that actively attacks IDE's that are not Microsoft's. #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Eclipse-OpenJ9-v0.29 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubOct 21 01:41
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techrights-news"I've just released the first Internet edition of my new book, Adventures with the #GNU #Linux Command Line. This 250+ page volume is a sequel/supplement to The GNU/Linux Command Line (TLCL)." http://lcorg.blogspot.com/2021/10/adventures-with-linux-command-line.htmlOct 21 01:42
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techrights-newsNew #Arduino Projects/Showcase โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157032 #TuxMachinesOct 21 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Arduino Projects/Showcase | Tux MachinesOct 21 01:53
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/t-mobile-home-internet-swaps-out-my-nokia-trash-can-then-two-days-later-says-i-didnt-return-it-and-theyll-bill-me-almost-400/Oct 21 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | T-Mobile Home Internet swaps out my Nokia Trash Can, then two days later says I didnโ€™t return it and theyโ€™ll bill me almost $400. โ€“ BaronHK's RantsOct 21 01:53
schestowitz-TRwowOct 21 01:54
schestowitz-TR400?Oct 21 01:54
schestowitz-TRthe router is just 43 pounds hereOct 21 01:54
DaemonFCYeah, for that piece of junk.Oct 21 01:54
schestowitz-TRwth?Oct 21 01:54
schestowitz-TRis it made of sterling silver?\Oct 21 01:54
DaemonFCPlastic and shit.Oct 21 01:55
schestowitz-TRdid you..?Oct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRnever mindOct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRyou did not poop in itOct 21 01:56
DaemonFCLOLOct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRbtwOct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRreal storyOct 21 01:56
DaemonFCScoop everything out and shit in it.Oct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRthey sent me one routerOct 21 01:56
DaemonFCScrew it back together.Oct 21 01:56
DaemonFCReturn it.Oct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRthat I did not needaOct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRand TWO bags to return that inOct 21 01:56
schestowitz-TRbecause their service was so badOct 21 01:57
schestowitz-TRit's a prepaid postage bagOct 21 01:57
DaemonFCSome drone scans it in, credits my account.Oct 21 01:57
schestowitz-TRI could send back the second with poo in itOct 21 01:57
schestowitz-TRbut it would lead to not very good outcomesOct 21 01:57
DaemonFCThe next customer really does get a piece of shit.Oct 21 01:57
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/22/canceling-bt/Oct 21 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป 27 Minutes to Cancel BT Order (Even Though I Was Very Clear It Needs to be Done as Soon as Possible), But Still Not Done on CompensationOct 21 01:58
DaemonFCIt looks like a generic return label that's preauthorized.Oct 21 01:58
DaemonFCI might be able to shit in a box and send it to them.Oct 21 01:58
schestowitz-TRit was very much like that "cancel AOL" thingOct 21 01:58
schestowitz-TRyou have to real fight with them on the phone to obey your requestOct 21 01:58
DaemonFC"Oh, I'm sorry. My doctor ordered Cologuard. I get confused sometimes."Oct 21 01:58
DaemonFCThey said I could take it to a store with the label printed out.Oct 21 01:59
DaemonFCNah, I'll find a UPS center.Oct 21 01:59
techrights-news[Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-double-dipping/ #epo #crime #europe #corruption #briberyOct 21 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping | TechrightsOct 21 01:59
DaemonFCThe store assholes would probably just lose it somewhere.Oct 21 01:59
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I was cracking this woman in the Philippines up over the phone.Oct 21 02:00
AdmFubarwhat's in a name?   https://www.firstpost.com/tech/auto-tech/revolt-rv400-electric-motorcycle-to-soon-be-available-in-70-cities-across-india-sales-resume-on-21-october-10064811.htmlOct 21 02:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Revolt RV400 electric motorcycle to soon be available in 70 cities across India, sales resume on 21 October- Technology News, FirstpostOct 21 02:00
schestowitz-TRrenault?Oct 21 02:01
DaemonFCI said, "The people at Sprint were never as rude to me as the people in the T-Mobile stores." She goes, "I'm sorry to hear that.". I said, "Yeah, one of them even said 'Well you should have gotten an Apple phone, I can go to the Apple store and get them to fix my phone!'. *mocks the guy* Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah Apple store la de dah! I don't want a damned iPhone.".Oct 21 02:02
DaemonFCPretentious hipster.Oct 21 02:02
schestowitz-TRapple, made in chinaOct 21 02:03
schestowitz-TRchinese sweashopsOct 21 02:03
schestowitz-TRlet me tell you somethingOct 21 02:03
schestowitz-TRbuying apple is less ethical than android for many reasons, but one isOct 21 02:03
schestowitz-TRthe profit margins compared to the wage slaves' returnsOct 21 02:03
schestowitz-TRapple could very well pay a decent salary to manufacturersOct 21 02:04
DaemonFCPretty much. It all goes to the top. Apple execs.Oct 21 02:04
schestowitz-TRbut the relative (%) return to workers is zilchOct 21 02:04
DaemonFCMeanwhile, those people on the factory floor with the suicide nets get not one penny more than the ones making Androids.Oct 21 02:04
schestowitz-TRtell the lady, I've never met someone so rude in my life except duterte with his rape "jokes"Oct 21 02:04
DaemonFCYeah, MARISOL and family voting for a guy who jokes about raping a dead woman's body.Oct 21 02:06
DaemonFCI mean Jesus fuck.Oct 21 02:06
DaemonFCJoking about where to get in line while they raped her to death. Oct 21 02:07
DaemonFCAnd they keep the people there so close to illiteracy, I think, that it just sails over them or something.Oct 21 02:08
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I saw a gas station today that said now hiring cashiers, must speak English and Spanish.Oct 21 02:09
DaemonFCI said, "Well, that's the last time I fill up my car there.".Oct 21 02:09
DaemonFCThe state, I guess, can do any rotten nasty thing it wants, and I have no control over that.Oct 21 02:10
DaemonFCBut this country is an English-speaking country.Oct 21 02:10
DaemonFCHalf of them come here illegally and expect us to adapt to them.Oct 21 02:11
DaemonFCAnd I'm just not going to do it.Oct 21 02:11
DaemonFCEven if I understood Spanish, I wouldn't speak to them in it.Oct 21 02:11
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DaemonFCIf they're having trouble, they need to get some books on tape about learning English from down at the library.Oct 21 02:12
DaemonFCIt's bad enough that half the US citizens here are such degenerates that they can barely speak English.Oct 21 02:12
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schestowitzI've just drafted our 15th anniversary postOct 21 02:13
schestowitzCreation Date: 2006-11-07T14:21:00.00ZOct 21 02:13
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schestowitz17 more daysOct 21 02:13
DaemonFCI was talking about this with mom the other day.Oct 21 02:14
DaemonFCI was talking about things that drive me nuts.Oct 21 02:14
schestowitz-TRin canada they speak frenchOct 21 02:14
schestowitz-TRyou need to learn some history, ryanOct 21 02:14
schestowitz-TRnot just englishOct 21 02:14
DaemonFCAnd I was talking about how there's a "prole English" now, or maybe even that's too good of a term for it.Oct 21 02:15
DaemonFCLow English.Oct 21 02:15
schestowitz-TRangola saxons were not first to colonise the territoryOct 21 02:15
DaemonFCVery Low English.Oct 21 02:15
schestowitz-TRanyway..Oct 21 02:15
schestowitz-TRback on topicOct 21 02:15
DaemonFCOh, these people make me want to punch them.Oct 21 02:15
schestowitz-TRso tmobile is sending the call centeres to low-wage placesOct 21 02:15
DaemonFCPretty much.Oct 21 02:15
schestowitz-TRand tghen  charges $400 for a piece of plastic or tinOct 21 02:15
schestowitz-TRlikely made by people who get paid $2 an hourOct 21 02:16
schestowitz-TRthat's "Late Stage Capitalism"Oct 21 02:16
schestowitz-TRyour dad worked in RCA or somethingOct 21 02:16
schestowitz-TRback then the jobs were decentOct 21 02:16
schestowitz-TRno safety nets neededOct 21 02:16
DaemonFCI told the lady "I apologize for getting salty with you. I realize you're a customer service person and the people running this company are crooked as hell.".Oct 21 02:16
schestowitz-TRone person could work to feed a family of 5Oct 21 02:16
DaemonFC"But none of them are listening to me."Oct 21 02:16
schestowitz-TRand have sick leave, 6 holidays etc.Oct 21 02:16
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> your dad worked in RCA or somethingOct 21 02:17
DaemonFCYeah, for over 30 years.Oct 21 02:17
schestowitzhttps://www.propublica.org/article/not-allowed-to-hang-up-the-harsh-reality-of-working-in-customer-serviceOct 21 02:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | โ€œWeโ€™re Not Allowed to Hang Upโ€: The Harsh Reality of Working in Customer Service โ€” ProPublicaOct 21 02:17
schestowitz(recent)Oct 21 02:17
DaemonFCCould have held on a little longer had he not dragged some guy from work to his divorce hearing to see mom come in with bags of porn.Oct 21 02:17
DaemonFCThat was a mistake.Oct 21 02:17
DaemonFCYou could have almost bought a car with all of the porn.Oct 21 02:18
DaemonFCIf you looked at the price they sold it for, or what he paid to rent it and copy it onto tapes.Oct 21 02:18
DaemonFCThere's probably at least $20,000.Oct 21 02:19
schestowitzporn is riskyOct 21 02:19
DaemonFCYou could buy a nice car for $20,000 back then.Oct 21 02:19
schestowitzbecause spies like to "get" people for itOct 21 02:19
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DaemonFCYeah, John would install sex mods into his video games.Oct 21 02:19
schestowitze.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25118156Oct 21 02:20
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–†โ–‡โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–ˆโ–†โ– avg(k/sec) 22.36 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‡โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–…โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 57.20โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.47  โŸฒOct 21 02:20
schestowitzhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/martin-luther-king-rape-fbi-tapes-video-mlk-laugh-files-a8932206.htmlOct 21 02:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Martin Luther King Jr โ€˜watched and laughedโ€™ as woman was raped, secret FBI recordings allege | The Independent | The IndependentOct 21 02:20
schestowitzhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7071713/FBI-tapes-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-40-affairs-laughed-friend-raped-parishioner.htmlOct 21 02:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | FBI tapes show Martin Luther King Jr had 40 affairs and 'laughed' as friend raped parishioner | Daily Mail OnlineOct 21 02:20
schestowitzThat's CIAOct 21 02:21
schestowitzand now about pr0nOct 21 02:21
schestowitzbut using sex to discredit people is commonOct 21 02:21
DaemonFCI came into his room one day and he was jerking it to some Skyrim mod where a Khajiit and an Orc were fucking.Oct 21 02:21
DaemonFCHe is....sick.Oct 21 02:21
schestowitzthere's one credit that thinks he's a person who trolls people by interjecting sex into IRC channelsOct 21 02:21
schestowitz*cretinOct 21 02:21
DaemonFCI doubt it's that common.Oct 21 02:22
DaemonFCPeople are so depraved these days that nothing shocks them.Oct 21 02:22
schestowitzactuallyOct 21 02:22
schestowitzthere was a famous old videoOct 21 02:22
schestowitzwhere someone gets caught playing with a video gameOct 21 02:22
schestowitzand I don't mean playing the video gameOct 21 02:22
schestowitzthat clip was popular about 20 years agoOct 21 02:22
DaemonFCI like the idea of those sex robots in a way. It'll be liberating for men.Oct 21 02:23
schestowitzbefore FB and "social" mediaOct 21 02:23
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DaemonFCOne of the ways women control men is sex.Oct 21 02:23
DaemonFCMen go without for a while, woman makes an unreasonable request tied to it.Oct 21 02:23
DaemonFCDone and done.Oct 21 02:23
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schestowitz-TRanyway, topic changeOct 21 02:24
schestowitz-TRtrolls like to use "sex" in IRCOct 21 02:24
DaemonFCSexless marriage? Eventually the other one breaks down and cheats.Oct 21 02:24
schestowitz-TRI'm going to get some sleep soonOct 21 02:24
AdmFubarhttps://linuxtechlab.com/tesla-publishes-autopilot-source-code-to-comply-with-the-gpl/Oct 21 02:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tesla publishes Autopilot source code to comply with the GPL - LinuxTechLabOct 21 02:25
schestowitzAdmFubar: old news?Oct 21 02:25
DaemonFCschestowitz, I have a review of LibreWolf almsot ready.Oct 21 02:26
DaemonFCIt's not terribly positive, but it's hopeful.Oct 21 02:26
techrights-newstomorrowOct 21 02:27
DaemonFCOverall, it's glitchy and there were some obvious mistakes, and they left the advertisement to install DRM in it.Oct 21 02:27
techrights-news#RMS gives his (I think) last talk in #europe tomorrow in #Montpellier #France https://stallman.org/talks.htmlOct 21 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard StallmanOct 21 02:27
DaemonFCBut it was still a lot better than Firefox with all of this "telemetry" and keylogging.Oct 21 02:27
Seaduck-That Tesla article is about 80% factually wrong about licensing.Oct 21 02:27
schestowitz-TRit is a young projectOct 21 02:27
schestowitz-TRmonths old, I thinkOct 21 02:27
schestowitz-TRthey moved off github, I hopeOct 21 02:28
schestowitz-TRSeaduck-: yes, it's an awful siteOct 21 02:28
schestowitz-TRand that author is worseOct 21 02:28
schestowitz-TRhe has been on my rss feeds, not because the posts are goodOct 21 02:28
schestowitz-TRsome are spamOct 21 02:28
DaemonFCLots of porn on Reddit.Oct 21 02:28
DaemonFCWell, think about it. What else are peopel that age going to do? McDonalds?Oct 21 02:29
DaemonFCYou can make more money in one tip than one hour at a job.Oct 21 02:29
DaemonFCThen guess how many of them declare taxes on it.Oct 21 02:29
techrights-newsUpcoming Linux PCIe Driver To Fully Utilize M1 Mac Mini Ports http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157022#comment-31461Oct 21 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Hardware Support in Linux | Tux MachinesOct 21 02:31
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/LibreWolf/comments/q64xzu/librewolf_wont_run_and_complains_about_missing/Oct 21 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Librewolf won't run and complains about missing dll's : LibreWolfOct 21 02:31
DaemonFCUses Windows 10....and is worried about what Firefox is going to snoop on.Oct 21 02:31
schestowitz-TRDLLOct 21 02:32
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: wah! my skateboard doesn't workOct 21 02:32
schestowitz-TRI put it on my rollerbladesOct 21 02:32
techrights-newsDiscussion about why #mozilla is basically doomed and #google gets to pull the trigger http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201021.html#tOct%2020%2018:58:01Oct 21 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 20, 2021Oct 21 02:34
DaemonFCI don't know if LibreWolf could go on after Mozilla collapses.Oct 21 02:35
techrights-news2020: $8 for a hotdog http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201021.html#tOct%2020%2020:53:19Oct 21 02:35
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DaemonFCMaybe it won't collapse and they can just pull the spyware and its hooks out for years.Oct 21 02:35
schestowitz-TRApache FirefoxOct 21 02:36
schestowitz-TRshelved thereOct 21 02:36
schestowitz-TRwhile a libreoffice-like project carries onOct 21 02:36
schestowitz-TRfor those who still need the wwwOct 21 02:36
schestowitz-TRand do not want the google/monopoly stuffOct 21 02:36
techrights-newsโ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘ techpol + social irc โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-201021.txtOct 21 02:36
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DaemonFCI'm just not sure about Pale Moon.Oct 21 02:37
DaemonFCI don't know if it's secure or well-maintained.Oct 21 02:37
Seaduck-Hasn't Mozilla been dead since like 2012 when they stopped supporting external Gecko users?Oct 21 02:37
schestowitz-TRseamonkeyOct 21 02:37
techrights-newsโ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘ techrights irc โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-201021.txtOct 21 02:37
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techrights-newsโ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘ boycottnovell irc โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-201021.txtOct 21 02:38
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techrights-newsโ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘ techbytes irc โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–Œโ”‚โ•‘โ•‘โ–Œโ–ˆโ•‘โ–Œโ•‘โ–ˆ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-201021.txtOct 21 02:39
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DaemonFCSeamonkey is not in good shape.Oct 21 02:41
DaemonFC"Frank Herbert wanted a harsh-sounding name for the antagonistic family opposing House Atreides in Dune. He came across the name "Hรคrkรถnen" in a California telephone book and thought that it sounded "Soviet", though it is in fact Finnish.[3] In earlier drafts of Dune, the character was called "Valdemar Hoskanner".[4] "Oct 21 02:41
DaemonFCHehOct 21 02:41
techrights-newsโœฉโ–‘โ–’โ–“โ–†โ–…โ–ƒโ–‚โ–๐๐”๐‹๐‹๐„๐“๐ˆ๐โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–“โ–’โ–‘โœฉ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! ๐Ÿ…ท๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ†ƒ๐Ÿ…ฟ: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-20.txt | ๐Ÿ…ถ๐Ÿ…ด๐Ÿ…ผ๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฝ๐Ÿ…ธ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)Oct 21 02:41
XRevan86If anything, that sounds German-ish.Oct 21 02:41
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C#RussianOct 21 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | ั…ะฐั€ะบะฐั‚ัŒ - WiktionaryOct 21 02:43
AdmFubarprobably old news... was catching up on feeds..Oct 21 02:43
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AdmFubarhttps://www.notebookcheck.net/Customers-are-left-in-the-dark-Only-vapor-chamber-models-of-the-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1-G4-X1-Extreme-G4-offer-full-CPU-performance.573365.0.htmlOct 21 03:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Customers are left in the dark: Only vapor-chamber models of the Lenovo ThinkPad P1 G4/X1 Extreme G4 offer full CPU performance - NotebookCheck.net NewsOct 21 03:01
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/free-software-review-trying-out-librewolf-93-as-an-alternative-to-firefox-its-less-annoying-but-theres-still-drm/Oct 21 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Free Software Review: Trying out LibreWolf 93 as an alternative to Firefox. Itโ€™s less annoying, but thereโ€™s still DRM? โ€“ BaronHK's RantsOct 21 03:24
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DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/fda-oks-mixing-covid-vaccines-backs-moderna-jj-boosters/Oct 21 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | FDA OKs mixing COVID vaccines; backs Moderna, J&J boosters | WGN-TVOct 21 04:06
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AdmFubarhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211015/15230647756/report-client-side-scanning-is-insecure-nightmare-just-waiting-to-be-exploited-governments.shtmlOct 21 04:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Client-Side Scanning Is An Insecure Nightmare Just Waiting To Be Exploited By Governments | TechdirtOct 21 04:25
AdmFubarhttps://xkcd.com/2531/Oct 21 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Dark ArtsOct 21 04:36
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DaemonFChttps://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=150388Oct 21 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.debian.net | Debian 11 honnest disussion ( Very positive !! ) - Debian User ForumsOct 21 04:49
DaemonFC    jschenard wrote: โ†‘2021-09-30 17:51Oct 21 04:49
DaemonFC    Debian 11 supports Wayland by default - this is a surprise to me as well. It is well implemented and stable.Oct 21 04:49
DaemonFC"You obviously didn't try it in KDE..."Oct 21 04:49
DaemonFCYepOct 21 04:49
DaemonFC"Very good snap support"Oct 21 04:50
DaemonFCUghOct 21 04:50
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pizza_deliveryhttps://old.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/q9ckir/duckduckgo_is_lying_to_you/Oct 21 04:54
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kingoffrance"Hasn't Mozilla been dead since like 2012 when they stopped supporting external Gecko users?"  well, in another channel active_low (avoid unnecessary highlighting) mentioned gtk-webkit1 ?   and a browser?     there were a few mozilla things like that, not using kde or gnome, just using the engine IIRC ....they didnt seem to go anywhere, but were seemingly lightweight  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galeon  there is one, dont recall if that needed Oct 21 05:56
kingoffrancegnome or not.   there were at least one other, that did not need gnome...but never went anywhereOct 21 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Galeon - WikipediaOct 21 05:56
kingoffrancei know such things existed anyway...i didnt know about mozilla "stopped supporting external Gecko users"Oct 21 05:57
kingoffrancei mean, that wouldve finished them off i guessOct 21 05:58
kingoffranceodds were slim in the first placeOct 21 05:58
kingoffranceand "firefox" being marketed as "slim" didnt help either perhaps (not saying that is good or bad, just "competition" -- if the official one has a "slim" version, why use an "external" ?)Oct 21 05:59
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kingoffrancei have said before, seamonkey, compiled, disable crap i didnt want, always seemed relatively lightweight to meOct 21 06:02
kingoffranceat the time, that was lightweight enough for me, for stuff that didnt work in links 2, dillo, etc.Oct 21 06:03
kingoffranceso, i didnt at the time see a huge point in those "external" things either, firefox or no.Oct 21 06:03
kingoffrancenice to have more options, but i didnt think they had the resources behind them to surviveOct 21 06:04
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, October 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextOct 21 07:30
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techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #YLE โ˜ž OK Lenovo, we need to talk! https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/aland_celebrates_100-year_anniversary_of_demilitarisation/12153151Oct 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ร…land celebrates 100-year anniversary of demilitarisation | Yle Uutiset | yle.fiOct 21 07:32
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— # KyleEMitchell #Licensing โ˜ž #GPL Had Better be a Contract https://writing.kemitchell.com/2021/10/20/SFC-v-Vizio-Complaint.htmlOct 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writing.kemitchell.com | GPL Had Better be a Contract โ€” /dev/lawyerOct 21 07:32
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TimesHigherEducation #OpenAccess โ˜ž Open access switch picks up pace in #Australia and New Zealand https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/open-access-switch-picks-pace-inaustralia-and-new-zealandOct 21 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Open access switch picks up pace inย Australia and New Zealand | Times Higher Education (THE)Oct 21 07:33
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #FreeBSD #bsd โ˜ž sh(1): make it the default shell for the root user https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=d410b585b6f00a26c2de7724d6576a3ea7d548b7Oct 21 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freebsd.org | src - FreeBSD source treeOct 21 07:34
activelowwebkit-gtk1.8, qwebkit are both broken, difficult to fixOct 21 07:39
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #PCWorld #Hardware โ˜ž Even the Raspberry Pi isnโ€™t immune to the chip shortage https://www.pcworld.com/article/545749/even-the-raspberry-pi-isnt-immune-to-the-chip-shortage.htmlOct 21 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Even the Raspberry Pi isn't immune to the chip shortage | PCWorldOct 21 07:39
activelowfirefox/mozillla never were leightweight, maybe their phoenix browser, any later wasn'tOct 21 07:41
schestowitzsame thing, just older version/nameOct 21 07:42
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy โ˜ž Amazon offers up more data to tell third-party sellers which items will be popular https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/20/22736658/amazon-product-opportunity-explorer-tool-sellers-amazon-basics-dataOct 21 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Amazon offers up more data to tell third-party sellers which items will be popular - The VergeOct 21 07:44
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techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #IndiaTimes #Surveillance #india #china โ˜ž Chinese smartphones driving digital payments adoption in India: PhonePe report https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/consumer-tech/chinese-smartphones-driving-digital-payments-adoption-in-india-phonepe-report/87149799Oct 21 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | phonepe: Chinese smartphones driving digital payments adoption in India: PhonePe report, IT News, ET CIOOct 21 07:48
kingoffrance"firefox/mozillla never were leightweight," yes, but my point was, if you compile yourself, you can eliminate things you dont want.Oct 21 07:58
kingoffranceand things like that that are large...-Os can be good tooOct 21 07:59
kingoffrancewhat was firefox? just an alternate "browser only, no suite" ?   and then thunderbirdOct 21 08:00
kingoffranceyou could compile seamonkey that way -- "browser only" Oct 21 08:00
kingoffrancefirefox perhaps had some ui changes etc. as wellOct 21 08:00
schestowitz-TRit was a go at bundlingOct 21 08:00
schestowitz-TRat some point ftp was also a browser thingOct 21 08:00
schestowitz-TRdownload manager still isOct 21 08:01
kingoffrancemy understanding firefox also favored extensionsOct 21 08:01
schestowitz-TRxulOct 21 08:01
kingoffranceso theoretically, only install what you need there tooOct 21 08:01
kingoffrancei dont know how well "extensions" would work with "firefox only" or mozilla/seamonkey ?Oct 21 08:01
kingoffrancei mean, if one needed extensions, firefox perhaps was better choiceOct 21 08:02
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TheHill #Ebay โ˜ž Ebay founder funding #Facebook whistleblower: report https://thehill.com/policy/technology/577646-ebay-founder-funding-facebook-whistleblower-reportOct 21 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ebay founder funding Facebook whistleblower: report | TheHillOct 21 08:02
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #CopenhagenPost #Misinformation โ˜ž Norwegian security services to investigate how reportage of mass killing spun out of control https://cphpost.dk/?p=128888 #KongsbergOct 21 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Norwegian security services to investigate how reportage of mass killing spun out of control - The PostOct 21 08:06
activelowyep, -Os is my default, doesn't change alotOct 21 08:06
kingoffrance:)   Oct 21 08:06
kingoffrancei dont know performance wise, but those large codebases, is perhaps a case compiler flags cannot just be dismissed as "ricing"Oct 21 08:07
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TheHill #Misinformation #socialcontrolmedia โ˜ž 70 percent of Americans say #Facebook , #Twitter do more harm than good: poll https://thehill.com/policy/technology/577625-70-percent-of-americans-say-facebook-twitter-do-more-harm-than-good-pollOct 21 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-70 percent of Americans say Facebook, Twitter do more harm than good: poll | TheHillOct 21 08:07
kingoffrance* i dont know Os performance wise versus other thingsOct 21 08:07
activelowmarginal differencesOct 21 08:07
activelowdepends too on memory alignment issues, among other things, Os is roughly the same as O2 but requires little less memoryOct 21 08:09
activelowthinking about this, webkit-1.x is essentially the equivalent of Apple Safari Browser from year 2010Oct 21 08:10
activelowthe source boundle is 8MiB in size, midori is another 2MiB, 10MiB for this. chromium wants a 1500MiB Source bundle.Oct 21 08:13
kingoffrancei shouldnt say "ricing" i didnt know that was "pejorative", just dont know a better term.Oct 21 08:14
kingoffranceyak shaving maybeOct 21 08:14
gustafkingoffrance: you haven't seen the classic site "Gentoo is ricing"?Oct 21 08:15
activelowit is noteworthy too, how difficult it is to compile an older software, 10years later onlyOct 21 08:15
activelownow imagine this, 20years or 30years later.Oct 21 08:15
kingoffrancethats why i didnt think it was "offensive" -- i know nothing about cars, but car people never used it that way, i only heard people call gentoo thatOct 21 08:16
gustafhttps://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Gentoo-is-Rice.htmlOct 21 08:16
kingoffrancelolOct 21 08:16
gustafkingoffrance: haha, same here Oct 21 08:16
gustafI think it's a specific US thing Oct 21 08:16
gustafand rooted in time too Oct 21 08:16
kingoffranceyesOct 21 08:16
kingoffranceits pushing it a little, but "slang"Oct 21 08:16
kingoffranceits about the car/person, not any race in particularOct 21 08:17
kingoffranceany not even foreign cars per seOct 21 08:17
kingoffrance*andOct 21 08:17
gustafin this case yak shaving and ricing converge... Oct 21 08:17
kingoffrancelolOct 21 08:17
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #NBC #Censorship โ˜ž After lecture is canceled, #freespeech debate roils science academia https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/canceled-lecture-free-speech-debate-roils-science-academia-rcna3105Oct 21 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | After lecture is canceled, free speech debate roils science academiaOct 21 08:18
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #Quillette #Censorship โ˜ž #CancelCulture Has a Lot to Answer For https://quillette.com/2021/10/21/cancel-culture-has-a-lot-to-answer-for/Oct 21 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quillette.com | Cancel Culture Has a Lot to Answer ForOct 21 08:18
kingoffrancea "native" person could just as easily "rice out" some "native" car, wouldnt make a difference -- its borderline maybe, but i never heard anyone get offended by itOct 21 08:19
kingoffrancei wonder if its on google list of words not to use lolOct 21 08:19
schestowitz-TRgoogle?Oct 21 08:19
kingoffrancethey have a list of words not to useOct 21 08:19
kingoffranceghetto is one of them lolOct 21 08:19
kingoffrancejank is another lolOct 21 08:19
kingoffrancethey dont like slang lolOct 21 08:19
schestowitz-TRgoogle does not participatre much in that stupid work cullOct 21 08:19
schestowitz-TRit has another war on words thoughOct 21 08:20
schestowitz-TR*word cullOct 21 08:20
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #NewYorkTimes #Censorship โ˜ž #JamesBond Has No Time for #China https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/16/opinion/james-bond-china.htmlOct 21 08:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | James Bond Has No Time for China - The New York TimesOct 21 08:20
kingoffranceits not about the person, or the car, its about "these modifications appear fluff/cosmetic"Oct 21 08:21
gustafmmmOct 21 08:21
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TheTorontoStar โ˜ž Why canโ€™t we say โ€˜womanโ€™ anymore? https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2021/10/15/why-cant-we-say-woman-anymore.htmlOct 21 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Why canโ€™t we say โ€˜womanโ€™ anymore? | The StarOct 21 08:22
gustafit's trying to emulate the look of a high-performance carOct 21 08:22
kingoffranceexactlyOct 21 08:22
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–†โ–‚โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 18.83 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–„โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–„โ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ– avg(k/sec) 31.60โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.46  โŸฒOct 21 08:22
gustaf"Without a doubt, Gentoo has set itself apart from every other distro out there. Because it's source-based, it's notorious for its speed. Because of emerge, it's notorious for being simple to maintain."Oct 21 08:22
gustafinteresting use of "notorious" there Oct 21 08:23
kingoffranceyou could almost say same thing for like retro games, that try to look 8-bit ...but are hundreds of MOct 21 08:23
kingoffrancethey might even capture the look, but would never run on the original systemOct 21 08:23
Ariadneschestowitz: Quillette is a blog run by far right commentators which has, among other things, advocated for the erasure of gays and trans people in the UK.  are you sure you want to send traffic to their website?Oct 21 08:23
gustaf"To me, an extra 0.1% performance increase, even if I am only imagining it to be faster, is certainly worth one day a week recompiling all of the latest packages from source code. Even if I do occasionally get my CFLAGS in a muddle! I think I speak for Slashdot when I say that Gentoo is the only sane option for getting the most from your hardware!"Oct 21 08:24
Ariadnethese guys would be bashing free software and everything it represents if they were aware of itOct 21 08:24
gustafQuillette is trashOct 21 08:24
gustafnever seen anything there worth reading Oct 21 08:25
schestowitz-TRAriadne: someone sent me the link, it is about cancel cultureOct 21 08:25
schestowitz-TRbut I get your pointOct 21 08:25
schestowitz-TRthanks for the warningOct 21 08:25
Ariadneyes they complain about โ€œcancel cultureโ€ because they constantly post blogs that are awfulOct 21 08:26
Ariadneand rightly get criticized for itOct 21 08:26
*CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving)Oct 21 08:26
schestowitz-TRI will read up on who runs that siteOct 21 08:26
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #ABC #FB โ˜ž #Facebook paying fine to settle US suit on discrimination https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/facebook-paying-fine-settle-us-suit-discrimination-80666481Oct 21 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Facebook paying fine to settle US suit on discrimination - ABC NewsOct 21 08:26
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #CN #china โ˜ž #Tibet is now in the hands of a #CPC leader sanctioned for Xinjiang crimes. https://www.tibetanjournal.com/tibet-is-now-in-the-hands-of-a-cpc-leader-who-has-been-sanctioned-for-human-rights-breaches-in-xinjiang/Oct 21 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tibetanjournal.com | Tibet is now in the hands of a CPC leader sanctioned for Xinjiang crimes. - Tibetan JournalOct 21 08:27
Ariadnewe should be careful to not legitimize the publications of our enemies simply because they wrote about a concern that some in the FOSS community have regarding RMSOct 21 08:27
activelowi'm not compiling from source for snakeoil benefits from compiler switchesOct 21 08:28
Ariadnegentoo has some benefit outside of CFLAGS and USE flagsOct 21 08:28
activelowi am using gentoo because the source-based workflow is relatively comfortable and i can handle complicated issuesOct 21 08:28
schestowitz-TRAriadne: we have a list of blacklisted sitesOct 21 08:28
Ariadnespecifically, you do not have to trust a binary supply chainOct 21 08:28
schestowitz-TRlet me find it...Oct 21 08:28
Ariadneas you produce your ownOct 21 08:29
kingoffranceyeah, i didnt even do it for that....just build once every year or so,    i would definitely not try to have the latest etc.     just liked to disable stuff i didnt like, etc.Oct 21 08:29
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Links/Oct 21 08:29
gustafthat website is ancient activelow Oct 21 08:29
gustafdon't feel attackedOct 21 08:30
gustafI'm actually impressed Gentoo is still around Oct 21 08:30
Ariadnethat website was created after gentoo masked xmms and told everyone to use audacious insteadOct 21 08:30
Ariadneand we got a mix of angry and ignorant gentoo usersOct 21 08:30
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #BroadbandBreakfast #Monopolies โ˜ž New Senate #Antitrust Bill Reaction, Charter Making Executive Changes, T-Mobile, Verizon Top Charts https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/10/new-senate-antitrust-bill-reaction-charter-making-executive-changes-t-mobile-verizon-top-charts/Oct 21 08:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | New Senate Antitrust Bill Reaction, Charter Making Executive Changes, T-Mobile, Verizon Top Charts : Broadband BreakfastOct 21 08:30
Ariadnebothering usOct 21 08:30
kingoffrance"one day a week recompiling all of the latest packages "  that was not me,  once week a year, then dont touch lolOct 21 08:30
kingoffrance*oneOct 21 08:31
activelowi don't feel offended at allOct 21 08:31
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #USSenate #Monopolies โ˜ž Support Builds for Bipartisan Legislation From Klobuchar, Grassley, and Colleagues to Rein in Big Tech https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=8A948B18-672E-4BDF-AF39-5195C0979B4A "legislation to restore competition online by establishing commonsense rules of the road for dominant digital platforms"Oct 21 08:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.klobuchar.senate.gov | Support Builds for Bipartisan Legislation From Klobuchar, Grassley, and Colleagues to Rein in Big Tech - News Releases - U.S. Senator Amy KlobucharOct 21 08:31
Ariadnesome gentoo user kept joining and writing about how he wanted to kill us for taking away his XMMSOct 21 08:31
Ariadneand then we found out he was a diaper furryOct 21 08:31
Ariadneit was funnyOct 21 08:31
gustafLOLOct 21 08:31
schestowitz-TRAriadne: afaik, xmms was never truly or directly supporting xmmsOct 21 08:32
schestowitz-TRI mean, pulesaudioOct 21 08:32
schestowitz-TRthat was when I dumped itOct 21 08:32
schestowitz-TRonly alsa or oss or some arcane sound systemsOct 21 08:32
AriadneASS: Arcane Sound SystemOct 21 08:33
Ariadnei shall make it happenOct 21 08:33
Ariadneanyway Quillette would refer to FOSS as communismOct 21 08:34
Ariadnei am 100% sureOct 21 08:34
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TeenVogue #Monopolies #SocialControlMedia โ˜ž #Facebook Is a #Monopoly โ€” Hereโ€™s Why That Matters https://www.teenvogue.com/story/facebook-monopoly-communicationsOct 21 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teenvogue.com | Facebook Is a Monopoly โ€” Hereโ€™s Why That Matters | Teen VogueOct 21 08:35
activelow"smart eID law", smart electronics identification law... german government doesn't translate this into german language anymoreOct 21 08:38
schestowitz-TRsmartOct 21 08:38
schestowitz-TR"e"Oct 21 08:38
Ariadneyou want that in german?Oct 21 08:38
schestowitz-TRthey miss some wordsOct 21 08:38
AriadneokOct 21 08:38
*activelow is following morning news on tvOct 21 08:38
schestowitz-TRhow aboutOct 21 08:38
Ariadnein other news, trump is running a mastodon instance nowOct 21 08:39
Ariadnethis should prove hilariousOct 21 08:39
schestowitz-TRsmart clown hey hi-enbled IS framework?Oct 21 08:39
schestowitz-TRAriadne: he did a blog and shut it downOct 21 08:39
schestowitz-TRno audienceOct 21 08:40
AriadneyeahOct 21 08:40
Ariadnenow he hasOct 21 08:40
AriadneTRUTH SocialOct 21 08:40
schestowitz-TRtwitter was actively amplifying himOct 21 08:40
Ariadnewhich is a reskinned mastodonOct 21 08:40
schestowitz-TRoutrage drives "engagement"Oct 21 08:40
AriadneyesOct 21 08:40
schestowitz-TRAriadne: I had the radio on half an hour agoOct 21 08:40
schestowitz-TRhad to turn it off, could not stand the propagandaOct 21 08:40
schestowitz-TRthough I like what the GPs and health experts sayOct 21 08:41
schestowitz-TRthe government mostly ignores themOct 21 08:41
activelowministry of the interior hired more than 500 employees to monitor online "hate speech"Oct 21 08:41
gustafactivelow: I don't read German but my feeling is that the langauge is quite open for foreign loanwordsOct 21 08:41
activelowi would say it is online spiesOct 21 08:41
gustafmuch more so than French or ICelandicOct 21 08:41
schestowitz-TRactivelow: that's too broad a definitionOct 21 08:41
schestowitz-TRIIRC, it started in FranceOct 21 08:41
schestowitz-TRthey also 'pioneered' RTbFOct 21 08:42
schestowitz-TRcensorship for the rich in 'privacy' clothingOct 21 08:42
activelowexactly, and if government intended to sanction "hate speech" and "fake news" they had to fire a majority of public TV and radio station staffOct 21 08:42
*schestowitz-TR does an article about Baltic states and EPO corruption todayOct 21 08:42
schestowitz-TRthey use race as a fig leafOct 21 08:43
schestowitz-TR"we need to censor because racial sensebilities"Oct 21 08:43
schestowitz-TRwhich sounds reasonable, nobody can opposeOct 21 08:43
gustafAriadne: to be fair, that person who resigned from LLVM due to them having a CoC had a post on QuilletteOct 21 08:43
schestowitz-TRlater they weaponise this for the higher class to censor exposersOct 21 08:44
schestowitz-TREPO is so currupt, it's UNBELIEVABLEOct 21 08:44
Ariadnegustaf: sounds like a self-selecting problemOct 21 08:44
schestowitz-TRwhich you give powerful people diplomatic immunity we have a Mafia inside EuropeOct 21 08:44
schestowitz-TRAriadne: the CoC is already weaponised to silence critics of corporationsOct 21 08:45
schestowitz-TRwe documented some examplesOct 21 08:45
Ariadnethat is nothing new, or even specific to CoCsOct 21 08:45
schestowitz-TRif they weed out community voices, then free software gets privatised without any resistant from those who did lots of the original codingOct 21 08:46
schestowitz-TRAriadne: yes, but it's another weapon for themOct 21 08:46
Ariadneokay, and what about the people who decide to not engage with the FOSS community?Oct 21 08:46
schestowitz-TRlike OnlyFans, those with the capital drive the decisionOct 21 08:46
Ariadnei think it is possible to want to have diversity and inclusive projects and also protect critics (as long as they are truly punching up)Oct 21 08:47
schestowitz-TRit's more tricky then thisOct 21 08:48
schestowitz-TR*thanOct 21 08:48
gustaforganizations should be free to organize themselves without outside interferenceOct 21 08:48
Ariadneif some want to write CoCs (which as i have noted before are nothing more than virtue signalling, it is community management which actually matters), who caresOct 21 08:48
schestowitz-TRthose higher up start disguising themselves as something else to misdirectOct 21 08:48
schestowitz-TRand we have examples of that tooOct 21 08:48
Ariadnethen document and publish proof of those actors being bad faith actorsOct 21 08:49
schestowitz-TRwe do occasionallyOct 21 08:49
Ariadneas i did with Andrew and ShaneOct 21 08:49
schestowitz-TRwhen the evidence is very clearOct 21 08:49
kingoffrancelol https://www.techopedia.com/definition/29607/jank-web-developmentOct 21 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is Jank? - Definition from TechopediaOct 21 08:49
schestowitz-TREPO does the sameOct 21 08:49
schestowitz-TRthey hide behind platitudesOct 21 08:49
kingoffranceits under 'mobile" category lolOct 21 08:49
schestowitz-TRwhile breaking the law, stealking money etc.Oct 21 08:50
Ariadnehttps://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2021/10/20/2Oct 21 08:50
schestowitz-TREPO even weaponises disability for thisOct 21 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openwall.com | oss-security - Core-dump handing issues with suid binariesOct 21 08:50
Ariadnekernel.core_pattern root vulnerabilityOct 21 08:50
Ariadnelove itOct 21 08:50
schestowitz-TR"throw it at the kernel"Oct 21 08:51
kingoffrancei just mean, "jank" is a modern term, why doesnt google like it?  lolOct 21 08:51
kingoffrancenot knocking mobile stuffOct 21 08:52
schestowitz-TRAriadne: as a general rule, civil rights movements lose when the upper class hijacks themOct 21 08:52
schestowitz-TRand exploits them to muzzle the oppressedOct 21 08:52
schestowitz-TREPO does this to womenOct 21 08:52
Ariadnehint: the upper class is QuilletteOct 21 08:52
schestowitz-TRalso to disabled peopleOct 21 08:52
schestowitz-TRAriadne: no connection at all to that siteOct 21 08:52
schestowitz-TRwomen at EPO are also upset at thisOct 21 08:53
Ariadnesure, i agree that the EPO is badOct 21 08:53
schestowitz-TRjust one exampleOct 21 08:53
schestowitz-TRit happens all the time everywhereOct 21 08:53
schestowitz-TRenvironmentalism tooOct 21 08:53
techrights-newsโ— >[Old] โ— #LWN # โ˜ž Xinuos sues IBM https://lwn.net/Articles/851315/Oct 21 08:54
gustafQuillette doesn't seem to have written anything about StallmanOct 21 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xinuos sues IBM [LWN.net]Oct 21 08:54
techrights-newsโ— [Old] โ— #ITPro โ˜ž #Xinuos sues #IBM for #patent infringement https://www.itpro.com/software/linux/359110/xinuos-sues-ibm-for-patent-infringement patent?!?!Oct 21 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.com | Xinuos sues IBM for patent infringement | IT PROOct 21 08:54
Ariadnehowever, there is a problem in FOSS where, for example, contributors from India, have to work much harder to get commit privs to projects like GCCOct 21 08:54
Ariadnei agree that CoC does not solve that problem -- the real oneOct 21 08:55
schestowitz-TRgustaf: is mostly moans about "cancel culture" from what I can see...Oct 21 08:55
Ariadnehowever, i think that talking about this problem is importantOct 21 08:55
schestowitz-TRI didn't see issues with thatOct 21 08:55
schestowitz-TRwith people berating Indians in FOSSOct 21 08:55
Ariadneberating, no.  it is that they do not have the same tractionOct 21 08:56
Ariadnebecause there is an attitude in the tech industry that India is filled with second-rate engineers, that can be hired for cheapOct 21 08:56
schestowitz-TRthey start from a position of disadvantage. Slower connections etc.Oct 21 08:56
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #ItsFOSS โ˜ž #Xinuos Sues IBM & Red Hat for Allegedly Copying Software Code https://news.itsfoss.com/xinuos-ibm-red-hat-lawsuit/Oct 21 08:56
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Ariadneand that attitude carries on into "enterprise FOSS", which basically own the GNU project wholesale at this pointOct 21 08:56
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schestowitz-TRAriadne: you could argue that it's the greedy corporations that discrminate against themOct 21 08:57
schestowitz-TRpaying them less. Same in China.Oct 21 08:57
Ariadnei can, and do, argue that.  but that attitude nonetheless transfers into FOSS project governance.Oct 21 08:57
schestowitz-TRSo if we oppose racism and discrimination, we should direct back at them the CoCOct 21 08:57
Ariadnewe should oppose racism and discrimination regardless of whether a CoC exists or notOct 21 08:58
schestowitz-TRI've not yet seen a company banned from a FOSS project over CoC violationsOct 21 08:58
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft meanwhile works with ICEOct 21 08:58
schestowitz-TRand who banned Microsoft for it?Oct 21 08:58
schestowitz-TRnobodyOct 21 08:58
Ariadneyou're focusing on CoCsOct 21 08:58
schestowitz-TR\as an exampleOct 21 08:59
schestowitz-TRof disproportionate powersOct 21 08:59
Ariadnemy point is that, all of us, have a responsibility to lift others up in the FOSS communitiesOct 21 08:59
schestowitz-TRthe companies threaten financial punishment until/unless it's adoptedOct 21 08:59
Ariadneand, in doing so, it is our greatest defense against the threat of unilateral control by the "enterprise FOSS" vendors, such as IBM, Intel and OracleOct 21 08:59
schestowitz-TRthey state problemsOct 21 09:00
schestowitz-TRthat are not their ownOct 21 09:00
gustaf"Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says"Oct 21 09:00
gustafcan't agree more Oct 21 09:00
schestowitze.g. http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/Oct 21 09:00
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Ariadneand who bankrolls LF?  GAFAMOct 21 09:01
schestowitzgustaf: link?Oct 21 09:01
schestowitzI've moaned about it for yearsOct 21 09:01
schestowitzhey hi just means "computer" or "program" nowOct 21 09:01
schestowitz"something clever"Oct 21 09:01
AriadneanywhoOct 21 09:01
gustafschestowitz: https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-saysOct 21 09:01
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gustaf``That's what pisses me the most about world these days, my pet peeve. Words seem to be losing their meaning. People just throw whatever words they want.''Oct 21 09:01
gustafok HN Oct 21 09:02
Ariadnei actually dislike CoCs, because these companies slapped them on their projects and went "problem solved! thumbs up"Oct 21 09:02
techrights-newsStop Calling Everything HEY HI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says - IEEE Spectrum โš“ https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says ไท‰ #spectrumOct 21 09:02
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Ariadnehowever, in many cases, CoCs are required for projects to qualify for grant underwriting anymoreOct 21 09:02
Ariadnemeanwhile, the actual diversity problem remains unsolvedOct 21 09:03
schestowitz-TRthat's capital at workOct 21 09:03
gustafjust a bunch of checkboxesOct 21 09:03
gustafto avoid issues with donors Oct 21 09:03
schestowitz-TRAriadne: because that's not the problem they sought to tackleOct 21 09:03
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techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #Techdirt #microsoft #cnsorship #china โ˜ž #LinkedIn (Mostly) Exits China, Citing Escalating Demands For Censorship https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211016/17494647761/linkedin-mostly-exits-china-citing-escalating-demands-censorship.shtml a bit of revisionism as for a LOOOOONG time Microsoft censored; now it claims moral high ground??Oct 21 09:05
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techrights-newsold: #ibm #sco https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&u=https://www.heise.de/news/SCO-vs-Linux-IBM-soll-14-25-Millionen-US-Dollar-zahlen-6179831.html https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/08/30/tsg_sco_ibm_motion_of_settlement.pdfOct 21 09:09
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techrights-news#microsoft intentionally omitted https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=8A948B18-672E-4BDF-AF39-5195C0979B4A see how Microsoft lobbying distracts from the biggest offenders: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/Oct 21 09:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | TechrightsOct 21 09:11
techrights-news#voanews #misinformation for #microsoft https://www.voanews.com/a/how-linkedin-china-outlasted-other-us-tech-giants-and-why-it-s-departing-now-/6278353.html iophk: not departing, just becoming a surveillance phone "app" insteadOct 21 09:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | How LinkedIn China Outlasted Other US Tech Giants and Why It's Departing NowOct 21 09:11
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TheGrayZone #surveillance โ˜ž Public health or private wealth? How digital vaccine passports pave way for unprecedented surveillance capitalism https://thegrayzone.com/2021/10/19/health-wealth-digital-passports-surveillance-capitalism/Oct 21 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | Public health or private wealth? How digital vaccine passports pave way for unprecedented surveillance capitalism - The GrayzoneOct 21 09:13
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux โ˜ž Take part in the UK Bebras Challenge 2021 for schools! https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/uk-bebras-challenge-2021-for-schools/Oct 21 09:13
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techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #Techdirt #DRM โ˜ž #BritishTelecom Wants #Netflix To Pay A Tax Simply Because Squid Game Is Popular https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211019/08235847773/british-telecom-wants-netflix-to-pay-tax-simply-because-squid-game-is-popular.shtmlOct 21 09:13
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techrights-newsCoCs are to individual human beings what #DMCA is to so-called 'content' because both are, in practice, utilised the most by the deep-pocketed powerful corporations against powerless individuals they dislikeOct 21 09:28
Ariadnethat is an incredibly bold claimOct 21 09:28
schestowitz-TRtakedown requestsOct 21 09:28
schestowitz-TRbut for peopleOct 21 09:29
gustaforgs need a way to get rid of people who are a net drag Oct 21 09:29
schestowitz-TRorgs or corps?Oct 21 09:29
gustafbothOct 21 09:29
schestowitz-TRTime will tell how they pans outOct 21 09:30
schestowitz-TRfrom what I understand, it started with Microsoft and ISVsOct 21 09:31
schestowitz-TRamong othersOct 21 09:31
gustafif I start a knitting club and an actual Nazi joins, I'd like them to leave and join a knitting club open to NazisOct 21 09:31
schestowitz-TRas means by which Microsoft leverages control over who ISVs employeOct 21 09:31
Ariadnei dont think you need a CoC for thatOct 21 09:31
Ariadneyou can just say "get the fuck out"Oct 21 09:31
schestowitz-TRgustaf: you could get rid of nazis beforeOct 21 09:31
schestowitz-TRthey might even be breaking lawsOct 21 09:31
schestowitz-TRAriadne: or refuse to collaborate with themOct 21 09:32
schestowitz-TRand they get the messageOct 21 09:32
schestowitz-TRwe did not need a coc to deal with jeorg schillingOct 21 09:32
schestowitz-TRwho by the way died this month from cancerOct 21 09:32
Ariadneor ulrich drepper, for that matterOct 21 09:33
schestowitz-TRyesOct 21 09:33
schestowitz-TRI was thinking of him tooOct 21 09:33
Ariadnetalking about glibc, siddhesh is one of the people i was thinking of earlier who had to fight an uphill battle to earn his commit bitsOct 21 09:34
Ariadnedespite others being able to just join the new glibc, no questions askedOct 21 09:34
schestowitz-TRthese, I think, are related to class systemsOct 21 09:34
schestowitz-TRbut we're not 'meant' to be talking about classOct 21 09:35
schestowitz-TRGSoC never doesOct 21 09:35
schestowitz-TRbillionaires reject talks about financial equalityOct 21 09:35
Ariadnei think it is imperative that we do talk about these thingsOct 21 09:35
schestowitz-TRthey're rather accuse people of racismOct 21 09:35
Ariadnein the context of overcoming themOct 21 09:35
schestowitz-TRwhile paying people in china $2 an hour to make a device they sell for $1000Oct 21 09:35
schestowitz-TRor employ people in india for a fraction of the salary for the same workOct 21 09:36
schestowitz-TRand then they call the COMMUNITY "racist"Oct 21 09:36
schestowitz-TRapple could pay factory workers $20/hoursOct 21 09:36
Ariadneapple could pay every single worker $300/hour and still have a profit of $46 billionOct 21 09:37
schestowitz-TRthese are the discussions they want to avoiudOct 21 09:37
schestowitz-TRlike asking the rich why they avoid paying taxOct 21 09:37
schestowitz-TRor why IRS chases poor people while avoiding people with expensive lawyersOct 21 09:38
schestowitz-TRBTW, the article I edit now...Oct 21 09:38
schestowitz-TRit's about head of patent officer with secret german and swiss bank accountsOct 21 09:38
schestowitz-TRhe plundered his patent officeOct 21 09:38
schestowitz-TRNEVER SENT TO PRISONOct 21 09:38
schestowitz-TRwhat a world we live in..Oct 21 09:38
Ariadneis ariadne.space loading correctly for everyone else here?Oct 21 09:39
Ariadnei just switched wordpress branches on itOct 21 09:39
schestowitz-TRloads ok hereOct 21 09:41
schestowitz-TRdid you empty caches?Oct 21 09:41
schestowitz<meta name="generator" content="WordPress 5.8.1" />Oct 21 09:41
schestowitzI never understand why WP is STILL showing thatOct 21 09:42
schestowitzby defaultOct 21 09:42
schestowitzinviting crackersOct 21 09:42
Ariadneok, goodOct 21 09:42
schestowitzeven tells them which bugs exactly might be presentOct 21 09:42
schestowitzvery bad security practiceOct 21 09:42
Ariadneyeah, i don't really care about that, if they want to pop a shell on an ARM server, go for itOct 21 09:42
schestowitzwe use fully patched wordpress LTSOct 21 09:43
Ariadneall of their exploits will be uselessOct 21 09:43
schestowitzI have about 10 wordpress sitesOct 21 09:43
schestowitzAriadne: they let spiders catalogue which site runs which versionOct 21 09:43
schestowitzand then they can go through the list, cracking all of version x.yOct 21 09:43
schestowitzwordpress should not advertise version numbersOct 21 09:44
Ariadnei agreeOct 21 09:44
schestowitzI was involved deeply in 2004 onwardsOct 21 09:44
schestowitzthey never understood securityOct 21 09:44
schestowitzby their own admissionOct 21 09:44
Ariadnei am testing out jetpack at the moment instead of yoastOct 21 09:45
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schestowitzmatt lee dumped wordpress over thisOct 21 09:45
Ariadneyoast was screwing up twitter previewsOct 21 09:45
schestowitztoo many and too frequent security patches = maintenance overheadOct 21 09:45
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techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #Techdirt #censorship โ˜ž Content Moderation Case Studies: Snapchat Disables GIPHY Integration After Racist 'Sticker' Is Discovered (2018) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211020/15563847785/content-moderation-case-studies-snapchat-disables-giphy-integration-after-racist-sticker-is-discovered-2018.shtmlOct 21 09:46
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Ariadnetbh, this bare metal arm server i have from oracle cloud is not badOct 21 09:46
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schestowitz-TRAriadne: maybe they operate at a lossOct 21 09:46
schestowitz-TRI saw an article about oracle clown the other dayOct 21 09:47
Ariadnedunno, i'm paying $180 for itOct 21 09:47
schestowitz-TRseems the business model is similar to that of social control mediaOct 21 09:47
Ariadnewhich seems about rightOct 21 09:47
Ariadneverses other dedicated server providersOct 21 09:47
schestowitz-TRAWS is expensiveOct 21 09:47
schestowitz-TRthe price hikes are catching up with the subsidiesOct 21 09:47
schestowitz-TRlast I heard Azure was really losing moneyOct 21 09:47
schestowitz-TRso they just call more things "Azure"Oct 21 09:48
schestowitz-TRto balance the sheetsOct 21 09:48
schestowitz-TRExchange = clownOct 21 09:48
schestowitz-TRIIS = yes, clown alsoOct 21 09:48
schestowitz-TROffice = that's right! ClownOct 21 09:48
Ariadnebesides, this is a temporary measure until i can find good colocation in the netherlands that does not cost an arm and legOct 21 09:48
schestowitz-TRSkype is becoming "Teams"Oct 21 09:48
schestowitz-TRAriadne: for low b/w maybe home hostingOct 21 09:48
schestowitz-TRI found that gemini is super-lightOct 21 09:49
Ariadnei don't like having the sound of servers in my flatOct 21 09:49
schestowitz-TR100 pages = about 1 MB upstreamOct 21 09:49
schestowitz-TRAriadne: SBCs make no noiseOct 21 09:49
Ariadneyes, but i need things like "lets compile 300 alpine packages to see if this rebuild will work"Oct 21 09:50
schestowitz-TRah, OK, so it's a compile farmOct 21 09:50
Ariadneamongst other things, yes it does thatOct 21 09:50
schestowitz-TRI thought it was just for wordpressOct 21 09:50
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #DeSmog #Energy โ˜ž French #Oil Company Total โ€˜Knew About Global Warming Impact in 1971โ€™, Study Finds https://www.desmog.com/2021/10/20/french-oil-company-total-knew-about-global-warming-impact-in-1971-study-finds/Oct 21 09:51
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techrights-news๏ผด๏ฝ…๏ฝƒ๏ฝˆ๏ฝ’๏ฝ‰๏ฝ‡๏ฝˆ๏ฝ”๏ฝ“ #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/irc-log-201021/ ไท‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/21/irc-log-201021/Oct 21 09:53
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techrights-newsAn imaginary #EPO intercept of Administrative Council discussions in June 2013โ€ฆ ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-double-dipping/ ไท‰ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #Meme | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-double-dipping/Oct 21 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping | TechrightsOct 21 09:54
techrights-newsYou Can Now Install #KDE Plasma 5.23 on Kubuntu 21.10, Hereโ€™s How โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157033 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Install KDE Plasma 5.23 on Kubuntu 21.10, Hereโ€™s How | Tux MachinesOct 21 09:55
gustafmy point is that it's not an inherent right to join an associationOct 21 09:58
schestowitz-TRrightOct 21 09:58
schestowitz-TRbut that's beside the pointOct 21 09:58
schestowitz-TRwe never had to "oust" peopleOct 21 09:58
schestowitz-TRyou can in fact just give peope the impression nobody likes themOct 21 09:58
schestowitz-TRwithout telling them to "get lost"Oct 21 09:58
gustafwhat was wrong with Jรถrg SchillingOct 21 09:59
schestowitz-TRI would not know best as it was a long time agoOct 21 10:00
schestowitz-TRbut many people said he was confrontationalOct 21 10:00
nhe was "difficult" on the Debian-user mailing list about cdrecord, claiming it had bugs but not elaborating on themOct 21 10:26
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techrights-newsAds = malware and spam these days https://trackingfreeads.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Letter-Tracking-free-Ads-Coalition.pdfOct 21 11:03
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #Techdirt# โ˜ž #MLB In Talks To Offer #Streaming For All Teams' Home Games In-Market Even Without A Cable Subscription https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211019/09115147774/mlb-talks-to-offer-streaming-all-teams-home-games-in-market-even-without-cable-subscription.shtml #DRM junkOct 21 11:04
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techrights-newsToday #techrights will focus again on Baltic states in relation to #epo #corruption (video and article ready, scheduled for end of day)Oct 21 11:05
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #Techdirt #CSAM โ˜ž Report: Client-Side Scanning Is An Insecure Nightmare Just Waiting To Be Exploited By Governments https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211015/15230647756/report-client-side-scanning-is-insecure-nightmare-just-waiting-to-be-exploited-governments.shtmlOct 21 11:06
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techrights-news[Meme] Is Saying โ€œNo!โ€ to Unlawful Proposals Considered โ€œImpoliteโ€? http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/unlawful-proposals/ #fullmetaljacket #meme #epo #corruption #europeOct 21 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Is Saying โ€œNo!โ€ to Unlawful Proposals Considered โ€œImpoliteโ€? | TechrightsOct 21 11:35
techrights-news" It would be, for example, Facebookโ€™s wet dream to have an OS that ships with X11 become the most popular on the planet." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107132704224091735Oct 21 11:40
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techrights-news"When the free software movement started to make headway, proprietary software companies like Microsoft went to war against it, describing the licenses at its core (like the GPL) as "viral licenses" to scare companies off from using free software." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/107134651242103309Oct 21 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "When the free software movement started to make hโ€ฆ" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media FรฉdรฉrรฉOct 21 11:41
techrights-news"Yeah, so #Facebook isn't rebranding because we've somehow got them "on the run." They're pivoting their brand into controlling the data flow of all of our future digital social spaces at the hardware level." https://elekk.xyz/@voltur/107134867427129936Oct 21 11:42
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techrights-news"Our Tracking-free Ads Coalition calls on the CEOโ€™s of the 100 largest advertisers in #Europe to use advertising money ethically right by switching to tracking-free ads" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107128473347105501Oct 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡งOur Tracking-free Ads Coalition calls on the CEโ€ฆ" - chaos.socialOct 21 11:43
techrights-news"To all proponents of indiscriminate identification, anonymity bans and identity databases: You accept the responsibility for the people who are threatened and harassed at home after such hacks?" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107128443512357093Oct 21 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡งTo all proponents of indiscriminate identificatโ€ฆ" - chaos.socialOct 21 11:44
techrights-newsold: #ibm #redhat #sco https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vid.36935/gov.uscourts.vid.36935.1.0.pdfOct 21 11:45
techrights-news#borisnaro regime once again trying to blame/scapegoat people who are NOT the superspreadersOct 21 11:52
techrights-news...same #borisnaro regime that blamed #eu for everything and pushed ahead #brexit which accomplished nothing at all. Tory = the scapegoating hate group.Oct 21 11:53
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techrights-newsThe #UK Conservative Party is a #HateGroup exempted from #hatespeech #lawOct 21 12:02
techrights-news[Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/epo-reception-issues/ #finland #latvia #lithuania #estonia #nokiaOct 21 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues | TechrightsOct 21 12:09
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techrights-news5 Best Free and Open Source TypeScript Static Site Generators โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157034 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Best Free and Open Source TypeScript Static Site Generators | Tux MachinesOct 21 12:45
techrights-news#ibm #redhat shilling #microsoft all the time. Not sure at which point we can call that company a "NET NEGATIVE" like #novell was...Oct 21 12:46
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #google โ˜ž #YouTube Rippers Oppose RIAA's Worldwide 'Blocking' Injunction &amp; Massive Damages https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-rippers-oppose-riaas-worldwide-blocking-injunction-and-massive-damages-211020/Oct 21 12:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube Rippers Oppose RIAA's Worldwide 'Blocking' Injunction & Massive Damages * TorrentFreakOct 21 12:47
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights โ˜ž #Trump Invokes Presidential 'Absolute Immunity' in Electric Avenue Copyright Suit https://torrentfreak.com/trump-invokes-presidential-absolute-immunity-in-electric-avenue-copyright-suit-211020/Oct 21 12:47
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techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #EFF โ˜ž From Bangkok to Burlington โ€” The Public Interest Social Internet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/bangkok-burlington-public-interest-social-internetOct 21 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | From Bangkok to Burlington โ€” The Public Interest Social Internet | Electronic Frontier FoundationOct 21 12:54
MinceRlol @ Arcane Sound SystemOct 21 13:02
schestowitz-TRwhat does PA stand for?Oct 21 13:10
schestowitz-TRexcept Palestinian Authorities and PulseAudioOct 21 13:10
schestowitz-TRIBM Pesonal AssistantOct 21 13:11
schestowitz-TRassisting vendor lockin agendaOct 21 13:12
schestowitz-TRrocky linux is piracyOct 21 13:12
schestowitz-TRalma linux is terrorismOct 21 13:12
schestowitz-TRcentos is "streams"Oct 21 13:12
schestowitz-TRstreaming is piracyOct 21 13:12
schestowitz-TRDRM is "protection"Oct 21 13:12
schestowitz-TRPower is Open(TM)Oct 21 13:12
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schestowitz-TRLinux Foundation is "Linux"Oct 21 13:13
techrights-newsHow Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of #Internet Protocols Like #GeminiProtocol http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/ #www #nntpOct 21 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini | TechrightsOct 21 13:13
techrights-newsThanks to #borisnaro we have more confirmed #covid19 cases than #russia and are ranked 4th in the world alongside countries with vastly bigger populations. Guess who our regime is scapegoating...Oct 21 13:18
techrights-news#florida has become #china or #northkorea (not really reporting what #covid19 does to FL) but still there are over 2,000 deaths/day with COVID-19 diagnosis in the US (2,005 yesterday; real numbers higher), so you know the vaccines are fantastic and there's no need for better vaccines. Yes, I'm being facetious. #patents #monopolyOct 21 13:21
activelowc++ here we go again: webkit-gtk-1.8 prefers -std=gnu++98, with -std=gnu++11 (default) errors are reported; however some #includes require gnu++11 internally although exposing an unchanged interface since gnu++98Oct 21 13:22
techrights-newsOctober 2020 in US: blame Trump for dead COVID patients. About 1,000/day in weekdays. October 2021 in US: blame Trump supporters for dead COVID patients. About 2,000/day in weekdays. #biden cannot be criticised!Oct 21 13:24
activelowwhich is an interesting attack vector against opensource to vendor lock-in to a modern compiler (gcc-8 or llvm/clang); and then break things although sources/interfaces didn't changeOct 21 13:24
activelowand, webkit-gtk-1.8 is roughly 10years old only, and fails horribly already, and the c++ errors aren't trivally repairedOct 21 13:25
schestowitz-TRis latest gcc not acceptable?Oct 21 13:25
activelowfor it isn't, neither gcc nor llvm/clang are acceptable anymore, however it is impossible to drop thoseOct 21 13:25
activelowfor meOct 21 13:25
activelowproblem is, webkit requires an old c++ compiler (gnu++98), and some recent headers with compatible interfaces require gnu++11 nonethelessOct 21 13:26
kingoffranceam i wrong to guess that you compiled it fine, but when you try to compile something that actually uses it, run into problems?Oct 21 13:27
kingoffrancethats what it sounds like Oct 21 13:27
activelowno, it is more nasty than that, i need to pass g++ -std=tnu++98 to compile webkit-gtk-1.8, which fixes various compilation errors magicallyOct 21 13:29
activelowhowever, some #included headers require -std=gnu+11 otherwise those new headers fail compilationOct 21 13:29
kingoffranceyeah, how is that solved?Oct 21 13:29
kingoffrancelike some per-file pragma for "problem files" ?Oct 21 13:29
activelowthere is no solution yetOct 21 13:30
kingoffranceor portion of file evenOct 21 13:30
kingoffrance:/Oct 21 13:30
activelowi can try to pass separate cppflags with std=gnu+11 and keep cxxflags at std=gnu+98Oct 21 13:31
kingoffrancere: excerpt "" It would be, for example, Facebookโ€™s wet dream to have an OS that ships with X11 "  seems a little retcon-ish/ trying to justify non-x stuff to me.  not that i disagree per se......but who ever chose x for "security" ?   noone, ever, in the history of window systems?Oct 21 13:40
kingoffrance" a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency."    i dont know what else to call that type of thingOct 21 13:41
kingoffranceseems like trying to sell <non-x> a little too eagerly IMO, but i dont follow these thingsOct 21 13:51
kingoffrancewas the <non-x> ever about security? not that i am awareOct 21 13:52
kingoffrancei mean, was that ever a strong reason people want/wanted to leave x? not that i ever heardOct 21 13:52
activelowx11 AND specific extensionsOct 21 13:52
kingoffranceit was :  too old       too much legacy       scary codebase        outdate model/design         Oct 21 13:52
kingoffranceyepOct 21 13:52
kingoffrancethat tooOct 21 13:52
activelowfor example, i was surprised by evdev input subsystem appearing recentlyOct 21 13:53
activelowbesides, i do not feel comfortable with the DRI/DRM subsystem of kernel and X11Oct 21 13:54
kingoffrancewell thats what i mean "security-wise" is non-x11 any better?Oct 21 13:54
activelowX11 exposes *additional* interfaces, for keyboard i/o sniffingOct 21 13:55
kingoffrancei guess i figure ppl worried facebook would monitor them...would run browser inside a VM or somethingOct 21 13:57
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #CounterPunch #Finance โ˜ž Supply Chain Blues: Who's Pulling Yours? https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/20/supply-chain-blues-whos-pulling-yours/Oct 21 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supply Chain Blues: Who's Pulling Yours? - CounterPunch.orgOct 21 13:57
activelowok, the technical details i was thinking about are not related to facebook specificallyOct 21 13:57
kingoffrancesure.  the excerpt just seemed a little stretching to meOct 21 13:58
kingoffranceif, maybe that is a "power user" and "joe average" will not take such precautions....then makes more senseOct 21 13:59
kingoffrancei mean, there is argument for "sane defaults" and then <what person who cares about security will do>Oct 21 14:01
kingoffrancethose are 2 different use cases IMOOct 21 14:02
kingoffranceits not that i disagree...its that i think normal person doesnt give a hoot about "security" either way. they want to know 1) can i play my game  2) etc.Oct 21 14:10
kingoffranceso i mean, that is an argument for "sane defaults" perhapsOct 21 14:11
kingoffrancei just dont think normal person, their train of thought, is anything like impliedOct 21 14:11
kingoffrancebetter not run x......facebook can watch meOct 21 14:11
activelowif you mean X11 with x, then it is mostly irelevant if wayland or x11 are chosen, that's not related to whatever your concerns with facebook areOct 21 14:27
kingoffranceyeah, agree.  that was the link: https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107132704224091735Oct 21 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Not to mention: securโ€ฆ" - Aralโ€™s MastodonOct 21 14:29
activelowcharlatansOct 21 14:31
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #CommonDreams #Censorship โ˜ž 'This Is Sick': Cable Companies Refuse to Air Ad Criticizing Corporate Donors to Florida's Abortion Opponents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/20/sick-cable-companies-refuse-air-ad-criticizing-corporate-donors-floridas-abortionOct 21 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'This Is Sick': Cable Companies Refuse to Air Ad Criticizing Corporate Donors to Florida's Abortion OpponentsOct 21 14:31
kingoffrancemaybe im just underwhelmed. people who care about security, going to do something, sane defaults or not      people who dont care, will disable things.    maybe im too negative :)Oct 21 14:39
kingoffrancemy opinion is people who dont care about security, will disable anything you do to protect themOct 21 14:40
kingoffranceso sure, dont ship x11 by default.  i think they will out-user youOct 21 14:40
kingoffranceand find a way to be exploitedOct 21 14:40
kingoffrancevery creatively lolOct 21 14:40
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies โ˜ž Do Not 'Cave to #BigPharma ': 60+ Groups Tell Schumer, Pelosi to Deliver on Drug Pricing Reform https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/20/do-not-cave-big-pharma-60-groups-tell-schumer-pelosi-deliver-drug-pricing-reformOct 21 14:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Do Not 'Cave to Big Pharma': 60+ Groups Tell Schumer, Pelosi to Deliver on Drug Pricing ReformOct 21 14:41
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies โ˜ž Opinion | Any Democrat Who Stands Against Lower Drug Prices Should Be Primaried in 2022 https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/20/any-democrat-who-stands-against-lower-drug-prices-should-be-primaried-2022Oct 21 14:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Any Democrat Who Stands Against Lower Drug Prices Should Be Primaried in 2022 | Robert ReichOct 21 14:41
techrights-newsA โ€˜toxic mixโ€™ of enablers and cowards (who wonโ€™t vote negatively on EPO proposals which they know to be unlawful) can serve to show that the #EPO isnโ€™t a โ€œsocial democracyโ€ as #BenoรฎtBattistelli liked to call it http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/unlawful-proposals/Oct 21 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Is Saying โ€œNo!โ€ to Unlawful Proposals Considered โ€œImpoliteโ€? | TechrightsOct 21 14:43
techrights-newsFinancial strangulations for Benoรฎt Battistelliโ€˜s unlawful โ€œStrike Regulationsโ€? The #EPO will come to regret http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/epo-reception-issues/ #europe #patents #finland #epoOct 21 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues | TechrightsOct 21 14:43
techrights-newsPopular movements and even some courageous publications have long been subverted by demonisation tactics, splits along unrelated grounds (such as controversial #politics ) and โ€” failing that โ€” technical sabotage and #censorship http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/Oct 21 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini | TechrightsOct 21 14:44
techrights-newsโ— NEWS โ— #PIA #Facebook #FB โ˜ž Facebookโ€™s Very Bad, No Good Week: What It Means for Privacy, and How to Make Things Better https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/facebooks-very-bad-no-good-week-what-it-means-for-privacy-and-how-to-make-things-better/Oct 21 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Facebookโ€™s Very Bad, No Good Week: What It Means for Privacy, and How to Make Things BetterOct 21 14:50
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techrights-news#Beelink sucks because it forces you to pay for and get #microsoft #windows with #nsa #backdoors (that's no way to treat one's clients) https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/21/beelink-ser3-review-a-good-amd-ryzen-7-mini-pc-after-tweaks/Oct 21 14:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Beelink SER3 Review - A good AMD Ryzen 7 mini PC... after tweaks - CNX SoftwareOct 21 14:53
techrights-newsNo, #itfoss ... #microsoft VS 'code' is NOT FOSS. Stop pushing #proprietarySoftware with #surveillance as though it is morally acceptable. To make matters worse, it's an ATTACK on FOSS, encouraging GPL violations.Oct 21 14:58
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techrights-newsRaspberry Pi Sees Their First Price Increase Due To Supply Chain issues http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157002#comment-31462Oct 21 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 2GB jumps to $45 as 1GB model returns from the dead at $35 | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:00
techrights-newsThe New Features and Upgrades You'll Find in Ubuntu 21.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31463Oct 21 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 โ€œImpish Indriโ€ Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whatโ€™s New | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:02
techrights-newsGIMP 2.99.8 Released with .jxl File Support, How to Install in Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157028#comment-31464Oct 21 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development version: GIMP 2.99.8 Released | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:03
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techrights-newsSpiders in #geminiSpace and how to keep those under control https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007335.htmlOct 21 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [discussion] The matter of Robots.txtOct 21 15:09
techrights-newsWhatโ€™s New in Ubuntu 21.10? 6 Highlights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31465Oct 21 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 โ€œImpish Indriโ€ Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whatโ€™s New | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:16
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techrights-news#V3DV #RaspberryPi Driver Now Exposes Vulkan 1.1 - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=V3DV-Vulkan-1.1 ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxOct 21 15:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-V3DV Raspberry Pi Driver Now Exposes Vulkan 1.1 - PhoronixOct 21 15:19
techrights-newsHere's Why #RaspberryPi is Increasing its Price http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157002#comment-31469Oct 21 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 2GB jumps to $45 as 1GB model returns from the dead at $35 | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:22
techrights-news#LibreOffice extension to remove blank cells โ€“ Help to improve it! โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157035 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice extension to remove blank cells โ€“ Help to improve it! | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:24
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157036 #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:24
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157037 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:25
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157038 #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:25
techrights-newsxkcd: Dark Arts โš“ https://xkcd.com/2531/ ไท‰ #xkcdOct 21 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Dark ArtsOct 21 15:26
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techrights-news#KeepItOn: Eswatini authorities shut down #internet to quell protests, ask people to email grievances - Access Now โš“ https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-eswatini-protests/ ไท‰ #accessnowOct 21 15:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | #KeepItOn: Eswatini authorities shut down internet to quell protests, ask people to email grievances - Access NowOct 21 15:27
techrights-news#KDE /Plasma 5.23 "25th Anniversary Edition" for #Debian | There and back again โš“ https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/10/kde-plasma-5-23-25th-anniversary-edition-for-debian/ ไท‰ #Norbertpreining #gnu #linuxOct 21 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | KDE/Plasma 5.23 "25th Anniversary Edition" for Debian | There and back againOct 21 15:35
techrights-newsChallenge: Use #KDE Plasma ONLY With Touchscreen! - Kockatoo Tube โš“ https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/76xwD2mHFm7CF8j11cZcMr ไท‰ #gnu #linuxOct 21 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | Challenge: Use KDE Plasma ONLY With Touchscreen! - Kockatoo TubeOct 21 15:35
techrights-newsRELEASE: #KDEneon 20211021 https://neon.kde.org/ #kde #gnu #linuxOct 21 15:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neonOct 21 15:37
techrights-newsWHO playing Dr. Obvious today: #pandemic will carry on next year. OH REALLY???? I thiught that right after xmas #COVID19 would be miraculously eradicated.Oct 21 15:40
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techrights-news#COVID19 has already been around for more than 2 years and it'll carry on spreading for another 2+ years because figures we have from #singapore and #israel (very high vaccination rates) suggest we need vastly better vaccines, not just more people vaccinated.Oct 21 15:42
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techrights-news#BSDNow "The New Architecture on the Block, #OpenBSD on Vortex86DX CPU, lots of new releases, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/425 #bsd #unixOct 21 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 425: Releases galoreOct 21 15:46
techrights-news#KDE: Touchscreens, Debian, and Kdenlive โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157039 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Touchscreens, Debian, and Kdenlive | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:46
techrights-newsThe 8 Excellent Alternative Desktops for Fedora and #HowTo Install Them โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157040 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 8 Excellent Alternative Desktops for Fedora and How to Install Them | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:47
techrights-news#borisnaro and #billbc funded by pervert #bilgates now pushing 3rd shots in the #uk and this assures the 22 million who never received 2 shots (or 20 million who never got any) won't bother at all. Explanation in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/Oct 21 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical PeopleOct 21 15:49
techrights-news#AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" Performance On Ubuntu Linux Six Months After Launch โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157041 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" Performance On Ubuntu Linux Six Months After Launch | Tux MachinesOct 21 15:49
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–„โ–†โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–‚โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–‡โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–„โ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ– avg(k/sec) 20.16 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‡โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 19.85โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.47  โŸฒOct 21 16:01
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–„โ–†โ–„โ–ƒโ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–‚โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–‡โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–„โ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ– avg(k/sec) 20.16 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‡โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–„โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 19.85โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.47  โŸฒOct 21 16:01
techrights-news"There is a very long post at Substack, that tries to answer why the World Wide Web replaced native programs installed and running locally on desktop computers, but not on mobile ones, that is smartphones and tablets." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/why-didnt-the-web-disrupt-mobile-you-ask/Oct 21 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Why didn't the web disrupt mobile, you ask? | Stop at Zona-MOct 21 16:10
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techrights-news#Surveillance cameras are just more #socialcontrolmedia https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/surveillance-cameras-are-just-more-social-media/ "One is extra work for law enforcement"Oct 21 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Surveillance cameras are just more social media | Stop at Zona-MOct 21 16:12
techrights-newsAudiocasts/Shows/Videos: BSDNow, The Linux Link Tech Show, FLOSS Weekly, and More โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157042 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: BSDNow, The Linux Link Tech Show, FLOSS Weekly, and More | Tux MachinesOct 21 16:12
techrights-news#zdnet = #microsoft spam site. Avoid. #boycottzdnet (paid-for ads in 'article' clothing) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetOct 21 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsOct 21 16:13
techrights-newsFreeOffice 2021 is Here for Linux With Enhanced Compatibility and New Features to Rival Microsoft Office http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156972#comment-31472 but #itsFOSS promotes things that are NOT FOSSOct 21 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 is Now Available to Download | Tux MachinesOct 21 16:16
techrights-news"The MOS Technology 6502 was one of the most popular processors of the 8-bit era. It found a home in legendary computers like the Commodore 64, Acorn Electron, BBC Micro, and Apple II." https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/21/arduino-enables-usb-mouse-support-on-custom-6502-homebrew-computer/Oct 21 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino enables USB mouse support on custom 6502 homebrew computer | Arduino BlogOct 21 16:18
techrights-news#Devices and #OpenHardware : #RaspberryPi , Arduino, and More โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157043 #TuxMachinesOct 21 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More | Tux MachinesOct 21 16:22
techrights-news#FreeSoftware Review: Trying out #LibreWolf 93 as an alternative to Firefox. Itโ€™s less annoying, but thereโ€™s still DRM? โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157044 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Review: Trying out LibreWolf 93 as an alternative to Firefox. Itโ€™s less annoying, but thereโ€™s still DRM? | Tux MachinesOct 21 16:25
techrights-news"In our new hybrid work reality, many people in IT have enjoyed the flexibility to rewrite the rules on work-life balance." #ibm helps many of them, #redhat staff included, by firing them. Then it's 100% life, no work. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/productivity-lessons-learned-6-cios-share-tips-personal-and-team-productivityOct 21 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Productivity lessons learned: 6 CIOs share tips for you and your team | The Enterprisers ProjectOct 21 16:27
techrights-news#ibm #redhat is meanwhile pushing these lousy and loosely-defined buzzwords (which even their proponents can barely explain!!) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/devops-future-operating-model-itOct 21 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | DevOps: 3 skills needed to support its future in the enterprise | The Enterprisers ProjectOct 21 16:28
techrights-news" #rebuilderd 0.15.0 very recently released, this is a short intro into what it is, how it works and how to build our own integrations!" https://vulns.xyz/2021/10/rebuilderd-v0.15.0/ #programmingOct 21 16:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Release: rebuilderd v0.15.0 - vulns.xyzOct 21 16:29
techrights-newsToday after work I'll publish a video and article about Baltic states in relation to their role in #epo abuses. So sad that media in #europe turns a blind eye to #corruption ... I call it #corruptMediaOct 21 16:30
techrights-newsRuby Lands "YJIT" As A Speedy, In-Process JIT Compiler - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ruby-YJIT ไท‰ but #deletegithub ... it's #microsoft #proprietarySoftware and not acceptable for #freesw #programming http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubOct 21 16:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ruby Lands "YJIT" As A Speedy, In-Process JIT Compiler - PhoronixOct 21 16:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - TechrightsOct 21 16:33
techrights-newsDigital Services Act: bad decisions can lead to global consequences - Access Now โš“ https://www.accessnow.org/digital-services-act-human-rights/ ไท‰ #accessnow #eu #europe #censorshipOct 21 16:34
-altlink_19b/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: accessnow.org | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-services-act-human-rights/Oct 21 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Digital Services Act: bad decisions can lead to global consequences - Access NowOct 21 16:34
techrights-newsFour strategies to defend #encryption and our human rights - Access Now โš“ https://www.accessnow.org/how-to-defend-encryption/ ไท‰ #accessnow | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 16:35
-altlink_19b/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: accessnow.org | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/how-to-defend-encryption/Oct 21 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Four strategies to defend encryption and our human rights - Access NowOct 21 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 21 16:35
techrights-newsWho we hurt when we attack #encryption - Access Now โš“ https://www.accessnow.org/who-we-hurt-when-we-attack-encryption/ ไท‰ #accessnowOct 21 16:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Who we hurt when we attack encryption - Access NowOct 21 16:35
techrights-news#suse is working for #proprietarySoftware companies https://www.suse.com/c/joint-webinar-hpe-sap-and-suse/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/Oct 21 16:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Joint Webinar: HPE, SAP and SUSE | SUSE CommunitiesOct 21 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an โ€˜Assetโ€™ of SAP (โ€˜German Microsoftโ€™), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | TechrightsOct 21 16:38
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techrights-news"Michael I. Jordan explains why today's artificial-intelligence systems aren'ย™t actually intelligent" #HEYHI #hype #marketing #bullcrap https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-saysOct 21 16:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says - IEEE SpectrumOct 21 16:45
techrights-news#RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157045 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 16:46
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techrights-news#Security , Entrapment (Microsoft GitHub), and #Microsoft #FUD โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157046 #GNU #LinuxOct 21 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security, Entrapment (Microsoft GitHub), and Microsoft FUD | Tux MachinesOct 21 16:51
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techrights-newsHow Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/ ไท‰ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/Oct 21 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini | TechrightsOct 21 17:01
techrights-newsLinks 21/10/2021: #GIMP 2.99.8 Released, #Hardware Shortages, #Mozilla Crisis โ€ข ๐•‹๐•–๐•”๐•™๐•ฃ๐•š๐•˜๐•™๐•ฅ๐•ค โš“ http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/mozilla-crisis/ ไท‰ #Techrights| โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/21/mozilla-crisis/Oct 21 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/10/2021: GIMP 2.99.8 Released, Hardware Shortages, Mozilla Crisis | TechrightsOct 21 17:02
techrights-news#Programming Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157047 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 17:03
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s ๐˜›๐˜ถ๐˜น ๐˜”๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด Leftovers โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157048 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 21 17:03
techrights-news#pgAdmin 4 v6.1 Released โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157049 #psql #postgresOct 21 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pgAdmin 4 v6.1 Released | Tux MachinesOct 21 17:06
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techrights-newsWILL IT LINUX? | Death Stranding #SteamProton - Invidious โš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tRpWnS9tMFo ไท‰ #video #gnu #linuxOct 21 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | WILL IT LINUX? | Death Stranding #SteamProton - InvidiousOct 21 17:07
techrights-news#GNULinux Essentials - User Account & Password Expiration - Invidious โš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UYBPpaWUT64 ไท‰ #video #gnu #linuxOct 21 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Essentials - User Account & Password Expiration - InvidiousOct 21 17:08
techrights-news"In this video, I am going to show how to install #UbuntuKylin 21.10." #gnu #linux https://yewtu.be/watch?v=URqqMlqPZGwOct 21 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Ubuntu Kylin 21.10 - InvidiousOct 21 17:09
techrights-news#TMobile pays people $2 per hour to manufacture things to it pretends cost $400 to make? https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/t-mobile-home-internet-swaps-out-my-nokia-trash-can-then-two-days-later-says-i-didnt-return-it-and-theyll-bill-me-almost-400/Oct 21 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | T-Mobile Home Internet swaps out my Nokia Trash Can, then two days later says I didnโ€™t return it and theyโ€™ll bill me almost $400. โ€“ BaronHK's RantsOct 21 17:11
techrights-newsNotes from the #Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 https://lwn.net/ml/git/nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2110211129130.56@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet/ #programmingOct 21 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 [LWN.net]Oct 21 17:13
techrights-newsAMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux - Phoronix โš“ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Smart-Trace-Buffer-Linux ไท‰ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐Ÿง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 17:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux - PhoronixOct 21 17:14
techrights-news"The first speaker on day one of the summit was Xiaochen Zou, a PhD student at the University of California, Riverside, who described a tool that he and his colleagues have been running on bugs that syzbotโ€”which uses the syzkaller coverage-guided fuzzerโ€”has reported in the Linux kernel." https://lwn.net/Articles/872649/Oct 21 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scrutinizing bugs found by syzbot [LWN.net]Oct 21 17:18
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/1378840250202562563.jpgOct 21 17:18
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techrights-newsA rough start for #ksmbd [LWN.net] โš“ https://lwn.net/Articles/871866/ ไท‰ #LWN #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A rough start for ksmbd [LWN.net]Oct 21 17:18
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techrights-newsA #QEMU case study in grappling with software complexity [LWN.net] โš“ https://lwn.net/Articles/872321/ ไท‰ #LWN #GNU #LinuxOct 21 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A QEMU case study in grappling with software complexity [LWN.net]Oct 21 17:20
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–…โ–โ–„โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 18.18 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–‚โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–โ–โ–‚โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–โ–ƒโ–„โ–โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 18.50โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.47  โŸฒOct 21 17:20
techrights-newsDigging into Julia's package system [LWN.net] โš“ https://lwn.net/Articles/871490/ ไท‰ #LWN #GNU #Linux #programmingOct 21 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digging into Julia's package system [LWN.net]Oct 21 17:21
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techrights-news"After a new fast-paced action dungeon crawler? Helms of Fury built with #GodotEngine looks like a lot of fun and worth keeping an eye on." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/helms-of-fury-is-an-action-rogue-lite-with-a-focus-on-collecting-abilities-and-fast-combatOct 21 17:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Helms of Fury is an action rogue-lite with a focus on collecting abilities and fast combat | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 17:25
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/qcoecr/kernel_5149_and_the_corresponding_header_dkms/Oct 21 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Kernel 5.14.9 and the corresponding header / dkms dependencies are now available in bullseye-backports : debianOct 21 17:25
XRevan86DaemonFC: As predicted.Oct 21 17:26
techrights-newsSigh. More #amazon #spam from Syed Asad at #linuxhint today. Title says "Best Laptops for Kali Linux and Pen Testing", but it's a FAKE article, just "affiliate marketing" (spam), googlebombing (for SEO) "Linux" for visibility. Part of a troubling trend: http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/Oct 21 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy โ€˜Articlesโ€™ and โ€˜Reviewsโ€™ Which Have Killed โ€˜Professional Journalismโ€™ (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | TechrightsOct 21 17:27
techrights-news#Kernel: LWNโ€™s In-Depth Articles and AMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157050 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: LWN's In-Depth Articles and AMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux | Tux MachinesOct 21 17:27
techrights-news#Games: RPCS3, Helms of Fury, Himno - The Silent Melody โ€ข ๐–ณ๐—Ž๐—‘ ๐–ฌ๐–บ๐–ผ๐—๐—‚๐—‡๐–พ๐—Œ โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157051 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 21 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: RPCS3, Helms of Fury, Himno - The Silent Melody | Tux MachinesOct 21 17:30
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MinceR(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/XuwleXfOct 21 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The princess of dorks - Album on ImgurOct 21 17:39
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schestowitzluke k.c. leighton (@lkcl): "this is not a surprise. anyone who has interacted with mozilla projects (particularly from the "outside&quot; and particularly on security issues) has experienced a... extremely weird total lack of engagement and in some instances active and aggressive censorship.&quot; | nitter โš“ https://nitter.eu/lkcl/status/1450975760790040584 ไท‰ #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latestOct 21 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | luke k.c. leighton (@lkcl): "this is not a surprise. anyone who has interacted with mozilla projects (particularly from the "outside" and particularly on security issues) has experienced a... extremely weird total lack of engagement and in some instances active and aggressive censorship." | nitterOct 21 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 21 17:48
schestowitzhe used to be my colleagueOct 21 17:48
DaemonFChttps://techcrunch.com/2019/07/05/isp-group-mozilla-internet-villain-dns-privacy/Oct 21 17:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Internet group brands Mozilla โ€˜internet villainโ€™ for supporting DNS privacy feature โ€“ TechCrunchOct 21 17:50
DaemonFCIt's not a DNS privacy feature.Oct 21 17:50
DaemonFCIt doesn't even gain you any censorship bypass because Mozilla caved to the ISPs and wrote in new code that leaks to them what your lookups are and lets them censor it.Oct 21 17:51
schestowitz-TRyesOct 21 17:51
schestowitz-TRthe media coverage at the time was oddly shallowOct 21 17:51
schestowitz-TRthey just pass people between DNS providersOct 21 17:51
schestowitz-TRsometimes to providers outside their home countriesOct 21 17:51
schestowitz-TRyay, mozilla!Oct 21 17:51
DaemonFCIf you want to change your DNS servers, it should be done systemwide, and at the resolver level.Oct 21 17:52
DaemonFCThat may not make Cloudflare or whoever more private, but it does get this TRR crap out of your way.Oct 21 17:52
DaemonFChttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22748141Oct 21 17:57
-altlink_19b/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: ycombinator.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22748141Oct 21 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | 1.1.1.1 for Families | Hacker NewsOct 21 17:57
DaemonFC"This would have been better if it was a joke. Big welcome to our new moral police, now encoded in two bits of a vanity IP address! Not a word spared for what kind of content is filtered, how they evaluate websites, any kind of appeals process... they did manage to portray it as helping the COVID-19 pandemic relief, though."Oct 21 17:58
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DaemonFCHow do they block "porn" exactly?Oct 21 17:59
DaemonFCReddit hosts a lot of porn.Oct 21 17:59
DaemonFCDo they block all of Reddit?Oct 21 17:59
DaemonFCPeople can still click on magnet links or put VLC-BitTorrent in and point their program at porn and that probably won't count as looking up a "porn" site, and would eventually get the files from the DHT even if it did.Oct 21 18:00
DaemonFCWhat happens when someone installs the Tor Browser and looks at porn with that?Oct 21 18:02
DaemonFCIf you block Tor, then what happens when they use a Tor bridge that makes it look like they're connecting to a website on Azure or AWS?Oct 21 18:02
DaemonFCIf nothing else, someone can dump the tarball for the Tor browser on a flash drive and run it off of that.Oct 21 18:03
DaemonFCGNOME's Parental Controls has no idea what that is, and CloudFlare DNS with "Family Mode" can't stop it.Oct 21 18:03
DaemonFCIt's just not so easy for parents to outsource their parental responsibilities.Oct 21 18:04
DaemonFCThere's no magic bullet of DNS blocking and "You can't run this, this, or that." and problem solved.Oct 21 18:04
DaemonFCEntire countries have had their censorship thwarted and people think DNS blocks work? How cute.Oct 21 18:05
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Apparently, T-Mobile doesn't care what people say about them.Oct 21 18:06
DaemonFCComcast at least used to give me "Comcast Susan" leaving comments about how to call 1-800-XFINITY.Oct 21 18:06
schestowitz-TRmaybe they have another approachOct 21 18:07
schestowitz-TRTelstra Australia assigns "reps" to uoiOct 21 18:07
schestowitz-TR*youOct 21 18:07
schestowitz-TRif you mention them in Twitter and it is not positiveOct 21 18:07
schestowitz-TRour energy supplier does the sameOct 21 18:08
schestowitz-TRit's easy to see a list of all their "engagements"Oct 21 18:08
schestowitz-TRwhich can be quite funny but not good use of your timeOct 21 18:08
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DaemonFCI had to tell Mandy to get a snack to tide him over until dinner.Oct 21 18:19
DaemonFCI have to be here when the modem arrives or it'll get stolen.Oct 21 18:19
DaemonFCThen when the stupid idiot finds out they can't use it, they'll just toss it somewhere and I get hit with another non-return fee.Oct 21 18:19
DaemonFCYou would think that T-Mobile would just send some modems out to their stores.Oct 21 18:20
DaemonFCYou can sign up for their home internet there, but they still send the modem UPS.Oct 21 18:20
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DaemonFCThen you can't return your equipment to them at the store and just have them scan it.Oct 21 18:21
DaemonFCHas to go back through UPS.Oct 21 18:21
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I've been arguing forever that someone should sue over GPL as a contract.Oct 21 18:33
DaemonFCI told Bradley Kuhn that (think it was him) when that Samsung blu ray player thing was going on.Oct 21 18:33
schestowitz-TR[07:32] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- writing.kemitchell.com | GPL Had Better be a Contract โ€” /dev/lawyerOct 21 18:33
DaemonFCI sent a letter to Samsung's legal department saying I would take them to court over the GPL as an enforceable contract with me, the end user.Oct 21 18:34
schestowitz-TRI wonder if you can compel them to show you why they bundle Micrsoft crapOct 21 18:43
schestowitz-TRI can guess the answerOct 21 18:44
schestowitz-TRbut I doubt there's a legal basis for you to compel disclosureOct 21 18:44
schestowitz-TRsometimes if Microsoft blackmails you and you take this to court you ask ask to see how much others pay themOct 21 18:44
schestowitz-TRbut Microsoft is a lawyers companyOct 21 18:44
schestowitz-TRand marketers and gangstersOct 21 18:44
schestowitz-TRsometimes they hire some coders tooOct 21 18:45
schestowitz-TRso I'm sure they wrote contracts that hide all that extortionbOct 21 18:45
DaemonFCThey eventually posted the tarball of that firmware.Oct 21 18:45
DaemonFCThe device was using XFS and they had made some changes to the file system too.Oct 21 18:45
schestowitz-TRdid you publish it?Oct 21 18:45
DaemonFCThey did.Oct 21 18:45
DaemonFCI asked Eric Sandeen to look at the XFS stuff.Oct 21 18:46
DaemonFCbrbOct 21 18:46
schestowitz-TRoh, they posted it not just for you thenOct 21 18:46
schestowitz-TRhahOct 21 18:48
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schestowitz-TRturns out in wordpress.com I have over 1000 "followers"Oct 21 18:50
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‡โ–…โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–ƒโ–‚โ–†โ–ƒโ–…โ–โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 20.81 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 21.48โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.47  โŸฒOct 21 19:20
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/2021/10/01/mildly-interesting-photos/Oct 21 19:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 33 Oddly Satisfying Photos Of Interesting ThingsOct 21 19:21
schestowitz-TRMinceR: nice...Oct 21 19:26
schestowitzzoobab_: imagine if people wrote articles like the comments here http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/19/slovenia-ratifies-ppa-and-unifed-patent-court-agreement/#commentsOct 21 19:29
schestowitzinstead of the Team UPC echo chamber that poisons the #www (spamfarm)Oct 21 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Slovenia ratifies PPA and Unifed Patent Court Agreement - Kluwer Patent BlogOct 21 19:29
MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PdTXuuLvwsOct 21 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-golf or not golf? - YouTubeOct 21 19:50
schestowitzgolf or not golf? - Invidious โš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6PdTXuuLvws Oct 21 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | golf or not golf? - InvidiousOct 21 19:50
schestowitzMinceR: hole in oneOct 21 19:51
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DaemonFCschestowitz, They sent me another trash can.Oct 21 20:12
DaemonFCThis one is an earlier hw revision.Oct 21 20:12
DaemonFCNo power adapter or ethernet cable in the box, and no SIM.Oct 21 20:12
DaemonFCSo I had to swap the SIM card out and this one is working, so far.Oct 21 20:13
DaemonFC55.81 Mbps downOct 21 20:13
DaemonFC14.14 Mbps up.Oct 21 20:14
DaemonFC31 ms pingOct 21 20:14
DaemonFCGood so far.Oct 21 20:14
DaemonFCThat's 4 times faster than the old one was usually managing.Oct 21 20:14
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schestowitz-TRback online?Oct 21 20:49
schestowitz-TRsounds like good speedsOct 21 20:49
DaemonFCWelp, the new modem decided to die immediately.Oct 21 20:49
schestowitz-TRtrash can replaced or swapped in for dumpster fireOct 21 20:49
DaemonFCSo I'm back on the first one.Oct 21 20:49
schestowitz-TRwe have about 4 or 5Oct 21 20:53
schestowitz-TRthey keep sending new ones every x yearsOct 21 20:53
DaemonFCNow they're trying to figure out if I can ship the replacement back because it died immediately.Oct 21 20:54
schestowitz-TRsounds like not-so-funOct 21 20:57
DaemonFCschestowitz, I talked to someone from the engineering department.Oct 21 21:11
DaemonFCHe says the problem is overcrowding on the local tower.Oct 21 21:11
DaemonFCHe says he's going to put in a work order for them to come out and expand service on the tower.Oct 21 21:11
schestowitz-TRsucksOct 21 21:19
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–‚โ–โ–„โ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–…โ– avg(k/sec) 19.96 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–ƒโ–„โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–„โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–„โ–ˆโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–โ– avg(k/sec) 66.06โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.47  โŸฒOct 21 21:20
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MinceRhttps://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2012.htmlOct 21 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & DroidsOct 21 21:30
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psyminThere was a contributor to a language, ruby, python, perl, something.  Years back, maybe six?  He was in the news a lot for having the wrong mindset.  Anyone remember which language, or what his name was?Oct 21 21:49
schestowitz-TRdhh?Oct 21 21:51
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/35jt4iS.jpegOct 21 21:51
-altlink_19b/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: imgur.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/35jt4iS.jpegOct 21 21:51
psyminOpal!Oct 21 21:52
schestowitz-TRoh, that Italian person?Oct 21 21:53
schestowitz-TRwho was targeted for wrongthink?Oct 21 21:53
schestowitz-TRto me, personally, the issue is like this:Oct 21 21:55
schestowitz-TR1. in the past we could work alongside people whom we wrongly don't agree with on politicsOct 21 21:55
schestowitz-TR2. politics would barely come upOct 21 21:55
schestowitz-TR3. no social control media was a plusOct 21 21:55
schestowitz-TR4. it's OK to berate something over working for company X, e.g. MicrosoftOct 21 21:55
schestowitz-TR5. when it's not related to the technical project (e.g. which company one serves) and extends to how one votes in elections a line is crossedOct 21 21:56
schestowitz-TRpersonal life should be seen as separate from work and respected to the extend feasibleOct 21 21:56
schestowitz-TRwhere you work, which can explain why you add certain things to the code, is percetly within remit of criticism because it directly  impacts work, not just salaryOct 21 21:58
schestowitz-TRe.g. Microsoft staff inside the so-called 'Linux' FoundationOct 21 21:59
psyminYep, personal life shoudl be seen as separate.Oct 21 21:59
schestowitz-TRI don't care who they vote forOct 21 21:59
schestowitz-TRI care which company pays their salaryOct 21 21:59
psyminthoughts on the new Mastodon instance and claims of AGPLv3 violations?Oct 21 21:59
schestowitz-TRfunny thing is,Oct 21 21:59
schestowitz-TRsome credit in Twitter today compared me to "Breitbart", clearly ignoring simple facts like me being leftistOct 21 21:59
schestowitz-TRSPAMNil compared me to TrumpOct 21 22:00
schestowitz-TRyes, perfect fit. I'm TRUMP!Oct 21 22:00
schestowitz-TRpsymin: the Trump instance?Oct 21 22:00
schestowitz-TRI only found out todayOct 21 22:00
schestowitz-TRusing AGPL enforcement for selective enforcement and political vendettas isn't good for GPLOct 21 22:01
schestowitz-TRif that is what happened... I'm just guessing hereOct 21 22:01
psyminYepOct 21 22:02
schestowitz-TRit's pettyOct 21 22:03
schestowitz-TRpathetic almostOct 21 22:03
psyminWe'll see how it plays out.  If he is using Mastodon, I hope he complies with the AGPLv3Oct 21 22:03
schestowitz-TRand shows what happens if orgs get hijacked like mozillaOct 21 22:03
psyminyepOct 21 22:03
schestowitz-TRI oppose TrumpOct 21 22:03
schestowitz-TRbut Mozilla is not supposed to be a political partyOct 21 22:03
schestowitz-TRbe a technical companyOct 21 22:04
psyminI oppose a lot of stuff.  But I'm glad that stuff is running on free software.Oct 21 22:04
schestowitz-TR"stay in your lane"Oct 21 22:04
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schestowitz-TRmany instances of pleroma and mastodon hack a bit here and thereOct 21 22:05
schestowitz-TRmaybe not muchOct 21 22:05
schestowitz-TRto find a target for enforcement based on politics contributes to the idea GPL is about revengeOct 21 22:05
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, They're apparently working on the tower right now.Oct 21 22:06
schestowitz-TRgoodOct 21 22:07
schestowitz-TRbut...Oct 21 22:07
schestowitz-TRthey should not wait until clients complainOct 21 22:07
DaemonFCNo, they shouldn't.Oct 21 22:07
schestowitz-TRmany people work from homeOct 21 22:07
schestowitz-TRno connection, no workOct 21 22:07
DaemonFCThey led me down a rabbit hole where their own customer support people blame the modem and replace it and threaten me with non-return fees.Oct 21 22:07
schestowitz-TRin my case, I even host some things from homeOct 21 22:07
DaemonFCThen the replacement modem dies immediately.Oct 21 22:08
DaemonFCThis is crazy.Oct 21 22:08
schestowitz-TRstrike IIOct 21 22:08
DaemonFCThey said send back the replacement.Oct 21 22:08
DaemonFCIt says hw rev 2. The one I had already said hw rev 3.Oct 21 22:08
schestowitz-TR400 US$ for defective gearOct 21 22:08
DaemonFCThat tells me it's someone else's old modem and they probably returned it because it broke down.Oct 21 22:09
DaemonFCNow they're sending it to me.Oct 21 22:09
schestowitz-TRmaybe they shuffle it around between clients to pretend they do SOMETHINGOct 21 22:09
schestowitz-TRyes, you beat me to itOct 21 22:09
schestowitz-TRI have many spare/unused onesOct 21 22:09
schestowitz-TRbut it's for UK IPSsOct 21 22:10
schestowitz-TRI'd have sent one to youOct 21 22:10
schestowitz-TRit would panic like mad... WTH am I doing in a US network?????Oct 21 22:10
DaemonFCIt's a 5G modem and they locked their network so just sticking the sim card in something else doesn't work.Oct 21 22:10
DaemonFC"German youth protection"Oct 21 22:11
DaemonFCIs under the Medium category in Web Guard.Oct 21 22:11
DaemonFC"Adult themes, nudity, sexuality, pornography, tasteless, child abuse content (CAC) / internet watch foundation, safe search"Oct 21 22:12
DaemonFCtasteless?Oct 21 22:12
DaemonFCHighOct 21 22:12
DaemonFCEverything below in Low and Medium, plus the following categoriesOct 21 22:12
DaemonFCChat, instant messaging, webmail, forums/message boardsOct 21 22:12
DaemonFCFile storage, P2P / file sharing, photo sharing, social networking, video sharing, visual search engines, classifieds, blogOct 21 22:12
DaemonFCGamesOct 21 22:12
DaemonFCAh, the "block the entire Web" setting.Oct 21 22:12
DaemonFCVery nice. Thanks T-Mobile!Oct 21 22:13
MinceR[Message edited due to tasteless content]Oct 21 22:13
DaemonFCThey can outsource it to Mozilla.Oct 21 22:13
DaemonFCMitchell Baker can just tell everyone what's tasteless, politically unacceptable, and pornographic.Oct 21 22:13
schestowitzToday my T-Mobile Galaxy S20 FE 5G decided that the ringer wonโ€™t work for some reason.  -  BaronHKโ€™s Rants โš“ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/today-my-t-mobile-galaxy-s20-fe-5g-decided-that-the-ringer-wont-work-for-some-reason/  Oct 21 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Today my T-Mobile Galaxy S20 FE 5G decided that the ringer wonโ€™t work for some reason. โ€“ BaronHK's RantsOct 21 22:14
DaemonFCrungsOct 21 22:14
DaemonFCringsOct 21 22:14
DaemonFC:POct 21 22:14
DaemonFCI missed an important call from Mandy's dentist and had to call them back.Oct 21 22:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, I enable AMP on my blog just because it's an option if people want to use it.Oct 21 22:16
DaemonFCI don't really see the point in turning it off.Oct 21 22:16
schestowitz-TRAMP is deadOct 21 22:16
schestowitz-TRlike Adobe TrashOct 21 22:16
schestowitz-TRdon't offer dead things as optionOct 21 22:17
schestowitz-TRwe need to eradicate theseOct 21 22:17
DaemonFCWhy were people trying to get Flash from a server in China?Oct 21 22:17
schestowitz-TRold sitesOct 21 22:17
schestowitz-TRsome employers still use stuff with adobe trash in itOct 21 22:17
schestowitz-TRbrowsers became so complexOct 21 22:17
schestowitz-TRthat they have something like adobe trash build inOct 21 22:18
schestowitz-TRbut it's controlled by google et alOct 21 22:18
schestowitz-TRfake 'standards'... in 1500MB of source code to buildOct 21 22:18
DaemonFCHmm, flipped AMP off.Oct 21 22:19
schestowitz-TRI "followed you"Oct 21 22:19
schestowitz-TRin wordpress.comOct 21 22:19
schestowitz-TRfirst time I do this, I thinkOct 21 22:19
schestowitz-TRturns out I have over 1000 "followers" thereOct 21 22:19
schestowitz-TRof course those are virtual craps... subscribers... friends... followersOct 21 22:20
DaemonFCOne of Maricel's family members started questioning him today.Oct 21 22:20
schestowitz-TRpeople collect them like they mean a thingOct 21 22:20
schestowitz-TRin a site controlled by some private firmOct 21 22:20
DaemonFCWas in Walmart and backed him into a corner and started asking if he was a citizen and where did he live and stuff.Oct 21 22:20
schestowitz-TRmaybe Maricel is a crack addict alreadyOct 21 22:21
schestowitz-TRyou know what it's lik when you rack up $300,000 in debtOct 21 22:21
DaemonFCShe acted like one already.Oct 21 22:21
schestowitz-TRand crack is expensiveOct 21 22:21
schestowitz-TRanyway, back on topicOct 21 22:22
schestowitz-TRre wordpress.comOct 21 22:22
schestowitz-TRI only get posted there stuff I put in diasporaOct 21 22:22
schestowitz-TRgot a few million hitsOct 21 22:22
schestowitz-TRwith no extra effort from meOct 21 22:22
schestowitz-TRI am one of the first 10 users of wordpress.comOct 21 22:22
schestowitz-TRI was a beta tested in a closed beta groupOct 21 22:23
schestowitz-TR*testerOct 21 22:23
schestowitz-TR2005ishOct 21 22:23
schestowitz-TRwordpress.com became such a forceOct 21 22:23
schestowitz-TRthat typepad is almost dead nowOct 21 22:23
schestowitz-TRblogger is blogspotOct 21 22:23
schestowitz-TRmsn spaces (Microsoft) was absorbed by wordpress.comOct 21 22:24
schestowitz-TRand they say wordpress powers about 40% of the wwwOct 21 22:24
leahschestowitz-TR: i will not be launching savegnu.orgOct 21 22:26
schestowitz-TRthat's OKOct 21 22:26
leahi've decided that it is not worth my time. the gnu assembly was all bark and no biteOct 21 22:26
schestowitz-TRkeep the domainOct 21 22:26
schestowitz-TRmaybe GNU Save is your next projectOct 21 22:27
schestowitz-TRalternative to PocketOct 21 22:27
leahlaunching it would be pointless, and may actually strengthen our enemiesOct 21 22:27
schestowitz-TRGNU SaveOct 21 22:27
schestowitz-TRyour locally-hosted and saved bookmarks ;)Oct 21 22:27
leahwhat the hell is PocketOct 21 22:27
schestowitz-TRa mozilla "product"Oct 21 22:27
MinceRa proprietary firefox extension you didn't know you wantedOct 21 22:27
MinceRbut mozilla knows you did!Oct 21 22:27
leahmozilla can eat a penisOct 21 22:27
MinceRhopefully not mineOct 21 22:27
schestowitz-TRmozilla has eaten its ownOct 21 22:28
schestowitz-TRit ruins its own productsOct 21 22:28
leahi've decided not to get too involved with gnu/fsf affairs. they can deal with their own problemsOct 21 22:28
schestowitz-TRand fires engs that matterOct 21 22:28
leahthey don't need *me*Oct 21 22:28
schestowitz-TRbecause they don't directly bring in moneyOct 21 22:28
schestowitz-TRwho will get that coveted fsf job, I wonder...Oct 21 22:29
leahwhatever happened?Oct 21 22:29
schestowitz-TRleah: you're the only one I know who appliedOct 21 22:29
leahback in the 90s, we didn't need moneyOct 21 22:29
leahwe just wrote codeOct 21 22:29
leahwell, i was a kid in the 90sOct 21 22:29
leahbut stillOct 21 22:29
schestowitz-TRFSF should hire bakerOct 21 22:29
schestowitz-TRto do gpl enforcement against trumpOct 21 22:30
schestowitz-TRbut FSF will run out of budget within 3 monthsOct 21 22:30
leahi've stopped caring about the fsf for now, and i told them i no longer wish to be executive directorOct 21 22:30
leahthat was months agoOct 21 22:30
leahi have a feeling that John Sullivan is going to remain in his postOct 21 22:30
leahand try to quietly do itOct 21 22:30
schestowitz-TRthe 3 million dollars (plus) whiz kid expected a monthly salary north of a quarter millionOct 21 22:30
schestowitz-TRleah: I hope soOct 21 22:31
schestowitz-TRJohnS knows the job wellOct 21 22:31
leahyeah and if he does, i want nothing to do with the fsfOct 21 22:31
schestowitz-TRhe doesn't fancy me much eitherOct 21 22:31
leahi told him, to his face, publicly on #fsf during the rms reinstatement drama of march 2021, that i disapprove of himOct 21 22:31
schestowitz-TRif you know what I mean.... I'm not corporate-friendly enoughOct 21 22:31
leahi called him a "protoplasmic jelly", referring to his head-in-the-sand tendency whenever a crisis happensOct 21 22:32
leahhe dithered about RMS in 2019, and in 2021, offering no defense or opposition, he just stood silence. it was non-leadershipOct 21 22:32
schestowitz-TRthe situation was not simple to be air...Oct 21 22:32
leahhe's a pencil pusher leading what should be a revolutionary organisationOct 21 22:32
schestowitz-TR*fairOct 21 22:32
schestowitz-TRand any statement made would be fodder for an irrational mobOct 21 22:33
schestowitz-TRwell, pencil pusher can be OKOct 21 22:33
schestowitz-TRRMS is the molotov cocktail throwerOct 21 22:33
schestowitz-TRJohnS is the business repOct 21 22:33
schestowitz-TRlike Peter BrownOct 21 22:34
leahi have zero faith in the current FSFOct 21 22:34
schestowitz-TRis he still in w3c?Oct 21 22:34
schestowitz-TRhe seems to have mostly gone off the radar... I checked years ago, Jaffe is still thereOct 21 22:34
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leahwhen they have a new executive directory, i will reevaluate my positionOct 21 22:34
schestowitz-TRwaitOct 21 22:34
schestowitz-TRI can set one upoOct 21 22:34
schestowitz-TR$ mkdir executiveOct 21 22:34
leahdirector*Oct 21 22:34
MinceRi have zero faith in them as wellOct 21 22:34
schestowitz-TRcd exeuctiveOct 21 22:34
schestowitz-TRthereOct 21 22:34
leahschestowitz-TR: uk is an irelandOct 21 22:35
schestowitz-TRmkdir ireland_of_britainOct 21 22:35
leahan ireland to the east of the north atlantic seaOct 21 22:35
schestowitz-TRsudo chown borisnaro ireland_of_britainOct 21 22:35
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leahwell, you could also interpret what i wrote and do:Oct 21 22:36
leahmkdir directoryOct 21 22:36
leahchmod -R +x directoryOct 21 22:36
schestowitz-TRanyway, FSF is FSF Oct 21 22:37
schestowitz-TRit has its own issuesOct 21 22:37
schestowitz-TRmany overlapping goals with oursOct 21 22:37
schestowitz-TRfocus on librebootOct 21 22:37
schestowitz-TRkeep it gnuOct 21 22:37
schestowitz-TRand let fsf be fsfOct 21 22:37
leahmy policy has been this: Oct 21 22:37
leahmaintain good relationsOct 21 22:37
leahbut don't get too closeOct 21 22:37
leahi've decided that i got too close this year. and now i'm stepping back a bitOct 21 22:37
schestowitz-TRfair enoughOct 21 22:38
leahthat way, if anything goes wrong, it wรดn't be me holding the bagOct 21 22:38
schestowitz-TRI lost some links to people for defendin RMSOct 21 22:39
schestowitz-TRwhich is expected when some people have distorted viewsOct 21 22:39
leahwho caresOct 21 22:39
leahi estimate that he has about 70-80% public approvalOct 21 22:39
schestowitz-TRor when you're compelled to defend some of the dumber things rms said or did over the years, like the temper tamtrumsOct 21 22:39
activelowhas there been anything substantial to accuse RMS of anything?Oct 21 22:39
leaheveryone says dumb shit, and does dumb thingsOct 21 22:39
schestowitz-TRactivelow: he has some flawsOct 21 22:40
schestowitz-TRwe all have someOct 21 22:40
leahlive and let liveOct 21 22:40
schestowitz-TRI try to keep myself scandal-freeOct 21 22:40
schestowitz-TRwhen you express difficult views, you become a targetOct 21 22:40
leahanywayOct 21 22:41
leahschestowitz-TR: the reason i chose to inform you of my decision, is because i sense you were expecting something of meOct 21 22:41
schestowitz-TRRMS has had 4 decades narrowed down to some single "tweet" he wrote on underage age of consent and something he put in his mouthOct 21 22:41
leahbecause i talked about the project. but i'm cancelling itOct 21 22:41
leahit will not launchOct 21 22:41
leahbut i will keep the domain nameOct 21 22:41
leahi may change my mind, but it,s doubtfulOct 21 22:41
schestowitz-TRyes, maybe rianne will do a conservation site ;)Oct 21 22:42
schestowitz-TRsave tghe gnus!!Oct 21 22:42
AdmFubardamn all sorts of weather hell breaking out near me... severe thunderstorms, an several tornadoes... Oct 21 22:42
schestowitz-TRleah: heck, maybe andy will take it off youOct 21 22:42
schestowitz-TRto save HIS gnuOct 21 22:42
schestowitz-TRthe fake oneOct 21 22:42
schestowitz-TRour fake is dying, SAVE IT!! please!Oct 21 22:42
schestowitz-TRor was it ingo?Oct 21 22:43
schestowitz-TRI'm not sure who even leads fakeGNU(TM)Oct 21 22:43
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: must be covid's faultOct 21 22:43
leahi think the extent to which i got involved was optimal. defending rms in march 2021 was the right thing to doOct 21 22:44
AdmFubarthen covid has been around a lot longer that reported...Oct 21 22:44
schestowitz-TRit aged wellOct 21 22:44
leahgetting more involved would be a mistakeOct 21 22:44
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/10/07/ibm-vs-fsf-is-a-failure/Oct 21 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Declares Defeat/Failure, โ€˜Shuts Downโ€™ Campaign of Anti-Richard Stallman Rhetoric (Defamation) | TechrightsOct 21 22:44
leahit would not be useful. and i do have a lifeOct 21 22:44
leahi put my life on hold for 1 month straight, during march/aprilOct 21 22:45
leahand then for a few weeks during the libera shitOct 21 22:45
leahgetting involved in other peoples dramas is not worth itOct 21 22:45
schestowitzhttps://netsplit.de/servers/?net=Libera.ChatOct 21 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLEOct 21 22:45
leahrms was a special case. i only did it to right past wrongs on my part. he deserved my support, and had earned the rightOct 21 22:46
schestowitz"During last connections to Libera.Chat its servers reported an average of 46860 users and 20685 chat rooms."Oct 21 22:46
schestowitzXRevan86: only 46k?Oct 21 22:46
leahschestowitz: my problem with savegnu was always: what would be the scope of the project?Oct 21 22:46
leahschestowitz: what would it say?Oct 21 22:46
schestowitzI thought it had approached 50kOct 21 22:46
leahi got excited one day and registered it. but afterwards, real life took over. i've been too busy with real life anyway. and events seem to have stabilizedOct 21 22:47
schestowitz-TRsave implies trouble/crisisOct 21 22:47
leahexactlyOct 21 22:47
schestowitz-TRI know some people who think gnu is doomed, but I don't agree with themOct 21 22:47
leahi decided it wasn't worth pursuing. precisely because there is no longer a crisisOct 21 22:47
schestowitz-TRgnu is used more than everOct 21 22:47
leahgnu isn't doomedOct 21 22:47
schestowitz-TRgithub misinformation wars cloud the real reach of gpl tooOct 21 22:47
schestowitz-TRand fsf has a good bank balance, iircOct 21 22:48
leahhowever, we were all riding high from the events of march 2021Oct 21 22:48
schestowitz-TRbecause of some large donationdOct 21 22:48
leahand then we all had to come down from that highOct 21 22:48
leahsavegnu was created during the highOct 21 22:48
leahi think fsf and gnu will be fineOct 21 22:48
leahpeople know not to mess with it now. because they can see it failedOct 21 22:48
leahand by it, i mean their attempts to mess with itOct 21 22:49
schestowitz-TRsave gnu can become a mirror of gnuOct 21 22:49
schestowitz-TRlike archiveOct 21 22:49
schestowitz-TRsaves of pagesOct 21 22:49
leahhence all the resignations, and redhat getting their knickers in a twistOct 21 22:49
schestowitz-TRmaybe gemini.savegnu.org/somepageOct 21 22:49
schestowitz-TRI suggested gemini to gnu and fsfOct 21 22:49
leahor i can redirect it to rms.sexyOct 21 22:49
schestowitz-TRthey were too busy with the crisis, never got around to itOct 21 22:49
leah:POct 21 22:49
leahhave you seen rms.sexyOct 21 22:49
schestowitz-TRleah: red hat loses tons of staffOct 21 22:50
schestowitz-TRalso top level managerOct 21 22:50
schestowitz-TRthe media is deadOct 21 22:50
schestowitz-TRso nobody reports thisOct 21 22:50
activelowhow sad, tried today gemini.kernel.org ... nothingOct 21 22:50
leahhttps://rms.sexy/Oct 21 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rms.sexy | Our GNU/Lord and GNU/Savior is 100% sexy!Oct 21 22:50
schestowitz-TRleah: I saw that ages agoOct 21 22:50
schestowitz-TRit's not helping when people use that narrativeOct 21 22:50
DaemonFChttps://aomediacodec.github.io/av1-avif/Oct 21 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aomediacodec.github.io | AV1 Image File Format (AVIF)Oct 21 22:51
DaemonFCNetflix and Microsoft.Oct 21 22:51
DaemonFCOh boy!Oct 21 22:51
schestowitz-TRbecause his views on that subject are controversial enough alreadyOct 21 22:51
schestowitz-TRAV1 is a patent trapOct 21 22:51
schestowitz-TRapropis:Oct 21 22:55
schestowitz-TR*posOct 21 22:55
schestowitz#torproject adds another anti-  #rms and anti- Torvalds person https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/10255.html #torOct 21 22:56
-altlink_19b/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: dreamwidth.org | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/10255.htmlOct 21 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diziet.dreamwidth.org | diziet | Going to work for the Tor ProjectOct 21 22:56
schestowitz-TRa lot of those cambridge debianistas worry meOct 21 22:56
schestowitz-TRsometimes I wonder if they just want CESG "access" or somethingOct 21 22:57
schestowitz-TRthey also form a sort of cabalOct 21 22:57
DaemonFC"That Tor is mostly written in C is quite terrifying, and I'm very happy that I'm going to help fix that!"Oct 21 22:59
DaemonFCMove it over to a Microsoft-controlled language.Oct 21 22:59
schestowitz-TR:-DOct 21 22:59
schestowitz-TRlink?Oct 21 23:00
DaemonFCFor what?Oct 21 23:00
activelowthe link you posted yourself schestowitz-TR Oct 21 23:00
schestowitz-TRit that when he blogged too?Oct 21 23:00
schestowitz-TRoh, yes, he was shilling rustlang latelyOct 21 23:00
activelowthis guy wants to rewrite tor with rust-langOct 21 23:00
schestowitz-TRcargo cult for essential toolOct 21 23:00
schestowitz-TRNSA foaming at the mouth, salivatingOct 21 23:00
schestowitz-TRmaybe also move tor to githubOct 21 23:00
schestowitz-TRto attract kids who don't know how to codeOct 21 23:00
activelowtbh i would be curious of the tor binary and kernel are sufficiently secure, to prevent privilege escalation hereOct 21 23:02
activelowifOct 21 23:02
schestowitz-TRTor "APP" Oct 21 23:03
schestowitz-TRcoming soooooonOct 21 23:03
schestowitz-TRTOR, cool man!!Oct 21 23:03
schestowitz-TRScan the QR cideOct 21 23:03
schestowitz-TRget "the app"Oct 21 23:04
schestowitz-TRscan your finger and face to log inOct 21 23:04
activelowtor browser was bad enough already, to tell people this was a good thingOct 21 23:05
schestowitz-TRfirefoxOct 21 23:07
schestowitz-TRtor must see that as a liabilityOct 21 23:07
schestowitz-TRif not, also considering the fact they cooperate with DDG (Microsoft gateway), assume it's compromisedOct 21 23:07
schestowitz-TRTor was taken over by politiciansOct 21 23:07
schestowitz-TRthey repel the rebelsOct 21 23:07
schestowitz-TRand become more establishmentOct 21 23:07
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schestowitz-TRI stopped using tor ages agoOct 21 23:08
schestowitz-TRslowing myself down and I'm not even sure if there's material gain (privacy)Oct 21 23:08
activelowi am using it, but not together with any common browserOct 21 23:08
schestowitz-TRnsa et al can rely not on tor for holesOct 21 23:08
schestowitz-TRbut on something elsewhere in the stack, inc. osOct 21 23:09
schestowitz-TRnot just web browserOct 21 23:09
activelowweb browser is the weakest part in the chainOct 21 23:09
schestowitz-TRbloatedOct 21 23:09
schestowitz-TRthey're like an OSOct 21 23:10
schestowitz-TRwith a whole expressive canvass fraemworkOct 21 23:10
schestowitz-TRit's like adobe trashOct 21 23:10
schestowitz-TRdrm is icing on this shitcakeOct 21 23:10
activelowunlawful interceptiongOct 21 23:11
activelowunlawful interceptionOct 21 23:11
activelowby unauthorized entitiesOct 21 23:11
activelowi am not concerned about DRM at all personally, because no DMCA related material is involved anywayOct 21 23:11
activelowit is the bad quality, bad implementation of itOct 21 23:12
schestowitz-TRDRM is a big dealOct 21 23:13
XRevan86schestowitz: Yea, it goes in waves.Oct 21 23:13
schestowitz-TRif they place some binary blob in your browserOct 21 23:13
schestowitz-TRiirc, mozilla uses one from adoveOct 21 23:13
schestowitz-TR*adobeOct 21 23:14
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: I'm sure joseon is back to 20k users;-)Oct 21 23:14
XRevan86schestowitz: ยฑ18kOct 21 23:14
schestowitz-TRexcept the kOct 21 23:14
schestowitz-TRfor koreaOct 21 23:15
schestowitz-TR1 the kOct 21 23:15
schestowitz-TRit would be funny when/if root left that networkOct 21 23:15
schestowitz-TRfor the "citizens" to talk to each otherOct 21 23:15
activelowstardict is interesting, however, i rather not bother with any issues and simply don't use any of itOct 21 23:15
activelowi had noticed, apple implemented similar functionalityOct 21 23:16
schestowitzBad artists copy. Great artists steal.Oct 21 23:17
schestowitzPablo PicassoOct 21 23:17
schestowitz"We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas."Oct 21 23:17
schestowitz Steve JobsOct 21 23:17
schestowitzvideo: http://techrights.org/2010/03/04/shameless-about-stealing-great-ideas/Oct 21 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Steve Jobsโ€™ Motto โ€œGood Artists Copy, Great Artists Stealโ€? | TechrightsOct 21 23:18
activelowironically, the best what's supposed to be stolen is available, in booksOct 21 23:19
activelowand librariesOct 21 23:19
schestowitz-TRyou can copyOct 21 23:19
activelowbut this required, efforts, to read thoseOct 21 23:19
schestowitz-TRjust doon't destroy the originalsOct 21 23:19
activelowsee there, is the university schedule, there is the libraryOct 21 23:19
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–ˆโ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–„โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–…โ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‡โ– avg(k/sec) 30.98 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 33.53โ–• swarm size (avg): 259.48  โŸฒOct 21 23:20
activelowalthough, forgot to mention, a professor at university cannot be had for nothingOct 21 23:20
activelowthat's why, i keep calm and watch the shit show, post election gossip in germanyOct 21 23:21
schestowitzmerkel is all schtumOct 21 23:21
activelow15yearsOct 21 23:21
schestowitz-TRhow is that allowed?Oct 21 23:23
schestowitz-TRhitler did 12Oct 21 23:23
activelowmisunderstanding, wasn't referring to Angela M.Oct 21 23:23
schestowitz-TRah, okOct 21 23:24
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activelowi had seen the German university maths compendium, on amazon, for less than 5Euros, 1000pagesOct 21 23:27
activelowbrand new it was ~90EurosOct 21 23:27
schestowitz-TRripoffsOct 21 23:28
schestowitz-TRhow ironic a name tooOct 21 23:28
schestowitz-TRamazonOct 21 23:28
schestowitz-TRfor company that kills treesOct 21 23:28
schestowitz-TRselling them with ink marks for huge profitOct 21 23:28
activelowin total, rough estimate, the literature for a 5years university course, would cost less than 1000Euros for books and equipment, to reach a competitive levelOct 21 23:29
activelowwhat's killing this idea is rents and costs of livingOct 21 23:30
activelowschestowitz-TR: it is a *murderous* regime in germanyOct 21 23:34
schestowitz-TRvastly better than neighbours to your eastOct 21 23:35
schestowitz-TRactivelow: we went to Berlin 3 winters agoOct 21 23:37
schestowitz-TRwere not impressedOct 21 23:37
schestowitz-TRbut it was winter... and BERLINOct 21 23:37
schestowitz-TRat least we got to see the pandasOct 21 23:37
activelowthe "intellectual property" are the scientists, engineers, studentsOct 21 23:41
schestowitz-TRif only people were propertyOct 21 23:42
schestowitz-TRor "human resource"Oct 21 23:42
schestowitz-TRIBM thinks it owns the employeesOct 21 23:42
schestowitz-TR"100% of the time'Oct 21 23:42
schestowitz-TRand then they go on lecturing of against saying "master"Oct 21 23:43
schestowitz-TRthis PR charade mostly failedOct 21 23:43
schestowitz-TRthey stopped it months agoOct 21 23:43
activelowmaster is the designation of a craftsman, with the permission to teach studentsOct 21 23:43
schestowitz-TRtrolling the community is not a good idea, IBMOct 21 23:43
schestowitz-TRlike blackbeltOct 21 23:44
schestowitz-TRmany textbooks are not out of dateOct 21 23:44
schestowitz-TRtheir examples refer to masterOct 21 23:44
schestowitz-TRand some have since then changed, e.g. "main"Oct 21 23:45
activelowyou see, i was worried about catching up with the laplace transformation, in parallel to a mountain of other things lectured in parallel (as if signal processing wasn't enough)Oct 21 23:45
schestowitz-TRas in main()Oct 21 23:45
schestowitz-TRthat can lead to confusionOct 21 23:45
activelowand i didn't depart because of "intellectual property", i didn't appreciate being subject to "social engineering" as a lab ratOct 21 23:47
schestowitz-TR"social engineering"  is a minsnomerOct 21 23:48
schestowitz-TRtake time to dissect the termOct 21 23:48
schestowitz-TRlike "hey hi" and "hi pee" (IP), it doesn't make senseOct 21 23:48
schestowitz-TR"human resource" is anotherOct 21 23:48
schestowitz-TRthey mix totally unconnected conceptsOct 21 23:48
activelowalthough, the worst psychotic wasn't telekom-related, it was the AIESEC organization and some of their affiliates involvedOct 21 23:48
activelowand the related mindset, which seeks to steer tech corporations based on ideology, instead of, technologyOct 21 23:50
activelowsame with politics and economics, which must fit into an ideolgical framework first and foremostOct 21 23:51
activelowand it's all hijacked and controlled by thisOct 21 23:51
activelowbut once they run out of engineers and university staff who would lecture engineering instead of gender mainstreaming, then the fun beginsOct 21 23:52
activelownot entirely sure yet, why the last remaining telekom university planned to terminate their scheduleOct 21 23:52
schestowitz-TRnot sure how they teach these daysOct 21 23:53
schestowitz-TRI heard too much frameworksOct 21 23:53
schestowitz-TRnot enough computer basicsaOct 21 23:53
schestowitz-TRlike they train people for products, without them knowing how things actually workOct 21 23:53
schestowitz-TRas a side noteOct 21 23:54
activelowthe telekom lecture i had to follow was chaotic already, which was only compensated by the fact the university staff was competentOct 21 23:54
schestowitz-TRan overlooked aspectOct 21 23:54
schestowitz-TRwhich is non-P-COct 21 23:54
activelowotherwise, it was totally crazy, 15 years ago alreadyOct 21 23:54
schestowitz-TRwomen participation in the workforce is connected to lowering of salariesOct 21 23:54
activelowno need to worry about "intellectual property" anymoreOct 21 23:54
schestowitz-TRso the expectation is, in a couple both must work, esp. to feed and raise kidsOct 21 23:54
schestowitz-TRthe employers get two staff for the price of oneOct 21 23:54
schestowitz-TRand we have tons of automation in placeOct 21 23:55
schestowitz-TRso we don't need this over-supply of labourOct 21 23:55
activelowit is true, there was only few women, 4 or 5, but this wasn't related to any inappropriate behaviour, wasn't aware of any at allOct 21 23:55
schestowitz-TR"intellectual property" is just means for raising pricesOct 21 23:55
schestowitz-TRand coming up for justificationsOct 21 23:55
*AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrightsOct 21 23:55
schestowitz-TRfactor worker: $2 an hourOct 21 23:55
activelowthere wasn't any "masculin toxicity" or similar, none, nothing, i would knowOct 21 23:55
schestowitz-TRphone: 200-1500 US dollarsOct 21 23:55
schestowitz-TRactivelow: that's a whole other can of wormsOct 21 23:56
schestowitz-TRlet's get back to tech if possibleOct 21 23:56
schestowitz-TRbut equality means equalityOct 21 23:56
schestowitz-TRI'd call it equality is many hunsbands stay home with the kids while the wife goes to workOct 21 23:57
schestowitz-TRin reality, gender roles are biologically connectedOct 21 23:57
schestowitz-TRto go more in tech (topic)Oct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRnow the employers have new buzzwordsOct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRlike devsecopOct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRis is security?Oct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRdevelopment?Oct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRsys admin?Oct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRnot the same thingOct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRthey try to roll together many different dutiesOct 21 23:59
schestowitz-TRdevelop software at daytimeOct 21 23:59

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