IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, March 22, 2022

matey

ive tried everything

matey

/me shrugs

matey

i can do this of course

matey

ACTION does this

matey

but i dont think thats better

prost

you ineract everyday with people using such devices

activelow

i see there is many new participants

Mar 22 02:00

*activelow is curious

Mar 22 02:00

activelow

where are you residing?

Mar 22 02:00

*MinceR renames systemd to iss (ibm subsystem for systemd-kerneld)

Mar 22 02:01

matey

systemd-kerneld <- coming soon

Mar 22 02:01

MinceR

indeed

Mar 22 02:01

matey

100% rust

matey

no other code

matey

only runs on pluton

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MinceR

no, they'll just rename Linux

matey

mincer: "no one was maintaining it so we added it to systemd"

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prost

fuchia

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matey

fuchia: because to make something that sucks worse than android you have to build it from the ground up

matey

or license it from microsoft, and this is google, so no

MinceR

prost

you have to build it from the ground up so it becomes proprietary

matey

in the future of course its just microsoft, google and amazon

matey

no one else is left

matey

they own all the media and all the tech companies

prost

alibaba

matey

and mincer decides not to be a pacifist anymore

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MinceR

when was i a pacifist?

matey

who have you killed?

MinceR

parse error

MinceR

oh, wait

MinceR

nobody, as far as i know

activelow

systemd/dbus/... can be removed; GCC can't be, and the kernel pushed aggressively for newer versions of GCC

matey

maybe you just roughed them up a little

MinceR

but it is not because of being a pacifist, which i am not

matey

no im not really insisting those are your only options

prost

the usa is starting to shun the "global" as chinese corps start to creep over

matey

the usa shunning "global" is like the amish shunning hats and barns

prost

wait and see

MinceR

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matey

"we wont have any of these kettles, pots only!"

matey

global: "but we have all the oil, you know"

matey

usa: "okay, maybe just a LITTLE bit of global"

Mar 22 02:08

matey

thats the usa for you, the very model of moderation and prudence you know

Mar 22 02:08

prost

LOL

Mar 22 02:08

matey

canada "we have natural gas and electricity!"

matey

usa: "oh i couldnt possibly, im on the new self-sufficiency diet"

matey

mexico and china: "we have cheap labour!"

matey

usa "no, stop, im not listening!"

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Mar 22 02:10

matey

usa "ive had it with all this global nonsense, im going to new england to make shoes and live off the land"

Mar 22 02:10

matey

banks and defence contractors: "dont worry, this sort of thing only lasts a week before it comes to its senses"

Mar 22 02:11

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Mar 22 02:16

matey

mjg59_ (not a trick question at all) how long do you think before we can replace miners with robots?

Mar 22 02:18

matey

i figure in a non-fucked up world we could give them adequate safety equipment at least, but there are some situations where putting robots down there would be less... lethal

Mar 22 02:19

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Mar 22 02:19

matey

oh well, ping timeout

Mar 22 02:19

AdmFubar1

how do you now they haven't replace them???

Mar 22 02:21

prost

in a couple of years war will be waged by robots and all human victims will be collateral damage

Mar 22 02:21

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Mar 22 02:22

AdmFubar1

as predicted by gene roddenberry

Mar 22 02:22

prost

Roddenberry flew 89 combat missions in the Army Air Forces during World War II

Mar 22 02:24

AdmFubar1

whooopieeee!!!!

Mar 22 02:26

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Mar 22 02:27

prost

On August 2, 1943, while flying B-17E-BO, 41-2463, "Yankee Doodle", out of Espiritu Santo, the plane Roddenberry was piloting overshot the runway by 500 feet (150 m) and crashed into trees, crushing the nose and starting a fire as well as killing two men

Mar 22 02:27

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Mar 22 02:28

AdmFubar1

banzia!

Mar 22 02:29

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prost

AdmFubar the next one is on me

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AdmFubar1

I hope it isn't cooties :P

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prost

is that an indian tribe?

Mar 22 02:34

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Mar 22 02:39

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Mar 22 02:39

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Mar 22 02:40

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Mar 22 02:41

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Mar 22 02:41

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Mar 22 02:42

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Mar 22 02:42

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Mar 22 02:43

matey

i can tell you what the "s" in "isp" stands for, and it isnt service

Mar 22 02:43

schestowitz-TR

spying? surveillance?

Mar 22 02:44

MinceR

excrement

Mar 22 02:44

prost

satan

Mar 22 02:45

matey

all good words

Mar 22 02:46

matey

at any rate, my internet disservice provider is especially useless today

Mar 22 02:46

matey

maybe its the russians, maybe they didnt pay the internet mafia this month, maybe the internet fairies are pissed off

Mar 22 02:47

matey

could be solar flares

matey

whatever it is, a modem reset heals all wounds

matey

it just doesnt fix the bloody internet service

https://www.zdnet.com/education/how-to-become-amazon-software-engineer/

prost

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to become a software engineer at Amazon | ZDNet

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prost

Amazon's application process is intense and time-consuming, but it follows a set pattern. Persistence is key to becoming an Amazon software engineer.

Mar 22 02:49

prost

amazon: we need to solve this problem.

Mar 22 02:49

matey

Persistence is key to becoming an Amazon software engineer. <- its also key to unionising

Mar 22 02:49

matey

though somehow i cant imagine union workers working hard to make it easier to replace them

AdmFubar

soon to change name to Burger Czar https://www.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/burger-king-holds-a-quiet-stake-in-its-russian-franchisee-even-as-it-publicly-distances-itself-leaked-records-show/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.icij.org | Burger King holds a quiet stake in its Russian franchisee even as it publicly distances itself, leaked records show - ICIJ

prost

amazon admin: start the application process and make the wannabees come up to solutions to problem

matey

i thought there was already a burger czar

prost

amazon: stop the application process after problem is solved and dont employ anyone

Mar 22 02:51

techrights-news

"Today I saw a back link to my Gemini capsule from Gophersphere. It somehow natural, but we don't have a proper instrumentation to detect that. ;-)" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi

Mar 22 02:51

AdmFubar

you're thinking booger czar (tzar? tsar?)

Mar 22 02:51

matey

in australia burger king is called hungry jacks

activelow

cannot find why gcc/linker adds stuff which it should not/need not to do: __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0

AdmFubar

in the usa those are a brand of pancakes

*activelow puts on tinfoil hat

techrights-news

Types are useful gemini://idiomdrottning.org/types-are-useful

techrights-news

GNOME 41.5 Released as a Bugfix Update for the GNOME 41 Desktop Series • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162813

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 41.5 Released as a Bugfix Update for the GNOME 41 Desktop Series | Tux Machines

matey

keep tinfoil away from gcc, it will link that too

matey

in fact its best to isolate gcc from any electronic devices using a faraday cage

Mar 22 02:53

AdmFubar

and members of the "church of the subgenius"

Mar 22 02:53

activelow

the function/symbol isn't used, nonetheless libgcc is linked against for this one, unpredictibly

Mar 22 02:54

matey

thats the gpl, its trying to spread the copyleft virus

Mar 22 02:54

activelow

situation is, with a cross-compiler it's not linked against, then the same compiler with identical switches links it; absolutely no clue why

Mar 22 02:55

prost

GNOME 42 released to revert the bugs fixed in version 41.5

*activelow activates paranoid mode

AdmFubar

instead of asking here ask the maintainers of the compiler why is does that

activelow

already did

AdmFubar

help help the paranoids are after me!

matey

<prost> GNOME 42 released to revert the bugs fixed in version 41.5 <- if they really intended to fix it they would use mate

Mar 22 02:57

matey

/me goes to the gnome forums to ask "why not use mate? its free and open and has fewer bugs"

prost

GNOME fev are MS dev working on gnome on their free time

matey

everyone needs a hobby

matey

for them its destroying free software

matey

other people collect stamps

:P https://www.osnews.com/story/134704/windows-needs-a-change-in-priorities/

AdmFubar

prost

they also destroy proprietary software soo...

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows needs a change in priorities – OSnews

matey

yes but unlike the free software they destroy, the prioprietary shit keeps coming back

Mar 22 03:03

activelow

^ grab the tiny-basic paper tape and restart from scratch

Mar 22 03:03

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Mar 22 03:03

matey

thats what will happen

Mar 22 03:05

matey

https://www.osnews.com/story/134704/windows-needs-a-change-in-priorities/ <- i know what windows should focus on

Mar 22 03:06

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Mar 22 03:06

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Keeping Debian Healthy as It Enters Its 30th Anniversary | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/debian-errors/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/21/debian-errors/

Mar 22 03:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Keeping Debian Healthy as It Enters Its 30th Anniversary | Techrights

Mar 22 03:10

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Like this is what should matter in an OS these days. "Dark mode", icons, emojis... https://www.maketecheasier.com/set-custom-icons-android-apps/

Mar 22 03:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Set Custom Icons for Your Android Apps - Make Tech Easier

Mar 22 03:12

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270: System76 Interview with Emma Marshall - Destination Linux ⚓ https://destinationlinux.org/episode-270/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 270: System76 Interview with Emma Marshall - Destination Linux

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"We discuss whether computing become less interesting as performance and abstraction have increased over the years. Plus our discoveries including two way radios, synths, HTML from colourful terminal output, and a personal wiki for Vim." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-169/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 169 – Late Night Linux

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Gunnar Wolf: Long, long, long live Emacs after 39 years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162800#comment-33145

Mar 22 03:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 20+ years of Emacs | Tux Machines

Mar 22 03:15

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60 Parsecs! gets a small update to improve Steam Deck support https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/60-parsecs-gets-a-small-update-to-improve-steam-deck-support

Mar 22 03:17

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Mar 22 03:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-60 Parsecs! gets a small update to improve Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux

Mar 22 03:17

techrights-news

"I use flameshot for my screenshots which has built in annotation tools but if you want a stand alone solution that's much simpler than GIMP, look no further than annotator" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iX-NKceEuqM

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Flameshot Not For You? Try Out Annotator Instead! - Invidious

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GDC 2022: Cloud gaming powered by Anbox Cloud | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/gdc-2022-cloud-gaming-powered-by-anbox-cloud

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AdmFubar

geniuses! https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com | Have iPhone Cameras Become Too Smart? | The New Yorker

schestowitz-TR

'Smart'

schestowitz-TR

like INTEL agencies

techrights-news

"Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 727 for the week of March 13 – 19, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/03/21/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-727/

Mar 22 03:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 727

Mar 22 03:20

techrights-news

Clown. Outsourcing. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/general_dynamics_cloud/

Mar 22 03:21

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Mar 22 03:21

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | General Dynamics awarded $4.5bn NGA hybrid cloud contract • The Register

Mar 22 03:21

techrights-news

"Russia labels Meta an “extremist organization,” outlawing Facebook and Instagram. WhatsApp is exempt from the ruling, because it doesn’t have a “public information sharing” function." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now

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Games: GoG, Office Management 101, Steam, and GDC • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162814

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GoG, Office Management 101, Steam, and GDC | Tux Machines

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Josh Simmons is out. From OSI. That's good. https://opensource.org/blog/2022-osi-board-election-results see http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/

Mar 22 03:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | 2022 OSI Board Election Results | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source...

Mar 22 03:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights

Mar 22 03:23

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Mar 22 03:24

AdmFubar

pocket change for geniuses https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/03/20/046254/former-employee-accused-of-defrauding-apple-out-of-10-million?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Former Employee Accused of Defrauding Apple Out of $10 Million - Slashdot

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Mar 22 03:26

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MassOS GNU/Linux 2022.02.2 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XKBLxzFan4o

Mar 22 03:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | MassOS GNU/Linux 2022.02.2 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious

Mar 22 03:29

AdmFubar

Mar 22 03:32

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Mar 22 03:32

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Mar 22 03:32

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Those messages should say, "MOVE TO GNU/LINUX" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/win_11_hardware_requirements_nagware/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Win 11 adds hardware 'requirements not met' nag for Insiders • The Register

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Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162815

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

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Debian is turning 30 (in September next year) and it needs to change direction in order to attract volunteers like it did back in the 1990s http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/debian-errors/

Mar 22 03:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Keeping Debian Healthy as It Enters Its 30th Anniversary | Techrights

Mar 22 03:34

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Mar 22 03:37

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Mar 22 03:37

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"It was a while since I last spoke Swedish on a podcast. I joined the friendly hosts of the Trevlig Mjukvara (translates to something like “Nice Software”) podcast and we talked software development, open source, curl, Mozilla and a few other topics for an hour. I had a great time." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/22/trevlig-mjukvara/

Mar 22 03:38

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Mar 22 03:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trevlig Mjukvara | daniel.haxx.se

Mar 22 03:38

schestowitz-TR

AdmFubar: meta :-)

Mar 22 03:41

schestowitz-TR

can't believe the media plays along with that BS so much

Mar 22 03:41

schestowitz-TR

I still see articles about "NFT"

Mar 22 03:41

techrights-news

The First Alpha of Asahi Linux is Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724#comment-33147

Mar 22 03:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! | Tux Machines

Mar 22 03:42

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"From designers to writers, multi-media producers and more—if you perform creative work on a computer there’s a good chance you can find a browser extension to improve your process. Here’s a mix of practical Firefox extensions for a wide spectrum of creative uses…" https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/firefox-extensions-for-creatives/

Mar 22 03:46

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/firefox-extensions-for-creatives/

Mar 22 03:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | Firefox extensions for creatives - Firefox Add-ons Blog

Mar 22 03:46

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Migrating From irssi to weechat • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162816

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Migrating From irssi to weechat | Tux Machines

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Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: MassOS, Flameshot, Late Night Linux, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162817

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: MassOS, Flameshot, Late Night Linux, and More | Tux Machines

https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/google_messages_gdpr/

techrights-news

Partly a waste of CPU cycles https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/how-fuzzing-can-make-your-open-source-project-more-secure-and-reliable/

Mar 22 03:48

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Mar 22 03:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | How fuzzing can make your open-source project more secure and reliable – IBM Developer

Mar 22 03:48

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Microsoft ships malware, media blames "open source" https://quickfix.es/2022/03/breaking-open-source-not-to-blame-in-node-ipc-debacle/

Mar 22 03:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quickfix.es | Breaking: Open Source not to Blame in node-ipc Debacle – Quick Fixes

Mar 22 03:50

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Linux Kernel 5.17 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162775#comment-33148

Mar 22 03:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.17 Officially Released, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines

Mar 22 03:52

AdmFubar

Mar 22 03:58

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/google_messages_gdpr/

Mar 22 03:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Messages, Dialer apps sent text, call info to Google • The Register

Mar 22 03:58

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Join the EPO Strike | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/joining-epo-strike-2022/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/21/joining-epo-strike-2022/

Mar 22 04:04

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Join the EPO Strike | Techrights

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#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, March 21, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives

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#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index

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Pretty much all Apple Clown disservices went down today. Apple had no comment. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/21/pretty-much-all-apple-clown-disservices-went-down-today-apple-had-no-comment/

Mar 22 04:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Pretty much all Apple Clown disservices went down today. Apple had no comment. – BaronHK's Rants

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Mar 22 04:11

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The high hidden cost of version inflation https://miketaylr.com/posts/2022/03/chrome-100-breakage-playbook.html

Mar 22 04:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-miketaylr.com | Chrome 100 Breakage Playbook

Mar 22 04:12

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You do not need blockchains for this https://news.bitcoin.com/blockchain-startups-digital-identity-solution-made-available-to-50000-zimbabwean-patients/

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bitcoin.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.bitcoin.com/blockchain-startups-digital-identity-solution-made-available-to-50000-zimbabwean-patients/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bitcoin.com | Blockchain Startup's Digital Identity Solution Made Available to 50,000 Zimbabwean Patients – Technology Bitcoin News

techrights-news

Proprietary Software Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162818

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines

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Mozilla: Version Inflation, Extensions, and DRM • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162819

Mar 22 04:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Version Inflation, Extensions, and DRM | Tux Machines

Mar 22 04:17

techrights-news

There's finally a Linux distro with native support for Apple's M1 series http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724#comment-33149

Mar 22 04:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! | Tux Machines

Mar 22 04:20

techrights-news

Why it’s easier to recover unsaved documents in Kate than GEdit • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162820

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why it’s easier to recover unsaved documents in Kate than GEdit | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Facts vs Feelings - Open Source Security • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162821

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Facts vs Feelings - Open Source Security | Tux Machines

techrights-news

We look back at a busy day (yesterday) of conflict and messy affairs; corruption at the EPO has reached the point of meltdown http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/joining-epo-strike-2022/

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techrights-news

"Testing EasyOS 3.4.3, forum member BologneChe reported that the Xorg synaptics driver has not loaded." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/kernel-51516-touchpad-does-not-work.html

Mar 22 04:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Kernel 5.15.16 touchpad does not work

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Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162822

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Glorious Day for Rights of European Workers | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-day-of-strike/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-day-of-strike/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Glorious Day for Rights of European Workers | Techrights

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Inject DB connections in Golang gRPC API ⚓ https://fale.io/blog/2022/03/21/inject-db-connections-in-golang-grpc-api ䷉

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fale.io | NO TITLE

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"What is gem-compare, you ask? gem-compare is a RubyGems plugin that can compare gem versions. I originally created it to vet new gem versions I packaged for Fedora, but it’s useful for all kinds of tasks." https://nts.strzibny.name/gem-compare-1.0/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | gem-compare goes 1.0

techrights-news

6 Universal Readable Code Tricks To Improve Your Coding Skills ⚓ https://python.land/readable-code

Mar 22 05:07

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Mar 22 05:07

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-python.land | 6 Universal Readable Code Tricks To Improve Your Coding Skills • Python Land Blog

Mar 22 05:07

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Vortex86 CPUs gain new life with Linux kernel detection and a 3.5-inch SBC • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162823

Mar 22 05:09

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vortex86 CPUs gain new life with Linux kernel detection and a 3.5-inch SBC | Tux Machines

Mar 22 05:10

techrights-news

When corporations wish to 'cancel' you it does NOT matter how "PROFESSIONAL" you try to seem to appease them. It won't work. They'll distort and make things up over and over again until they get their way.

Mar 22 05:11

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Samba 4.16.0 Available for Download • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162824

Mar 22 05:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samba 4.16.0 Available for Download | Tux Machines

Mar 22 05:11

techrights-news

Ignore all this money I get from companies I write about, says the 'analyst'. "AWS, Hasura, Heroku (Salesforce) and MongoDB are RedMonk customers. Netlify, Prisma and Vercel are not currently customers." https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2022/03/21/vertical-integration/

Mar 22 05:12

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Mar 22 05:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-redmonk.com | Vertical Integration: The Collision of App Platforms and Database – tecosystems

Mar 22 05:13

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SUSE's latest marketing fluff, citing Microsoft proxy Accenture, which viciously attacks GNU/Linux https://www.suse.com/c/banks-must-embrace-customer-centric-reinvention-today/

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"Combining faces at various view angles and a consistent light setup and different facial expression (all from imagination) is really difficult. I often struggle about the close-up panel on the comic, especially during dialog scene that require this consistency of characters and shaders/light." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article901/painting-studies

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Painting studies - David Revoy

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Capacitive Soil Moisture Sensor with Raspberry PI Pico: wiring, code and calibrating with MicroPython ⚓ https://peppe8o.com/capacitive-soil-moisture-sensor-with-raspberry-pi-pico-wiring-code-and-calibrating-with-micropython/

Mar 22 05:15

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Mar 22 05:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Capacitive Soil Moisture Sensor with Raspberry PI Pico: wiring, code and calibrating with MicroPython

Mar 22 05:15

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More than A Phone: How Purism Advocates Digital Security – Purism <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://puri.sm/posts/purism-digital-security/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>

Mar 22 05:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | More than A Phone: How Purism Advocates Digital Security – Purism

Mar 22 05:16

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"PureOS: A Debian-based 100% free software truly convergent operating system developed and maintained by Purism. It is an Operating System that is not based on Android or iOS. Purism’s PureOS was also where all the development occurred for what we later pushed into GNOME" https://puri.sm/posts/purism-digital-security/

Mar 22 05:17

techrights-news

Workers of the EPO will stay out; they have more important things to do as priorities have shifted. Don’t be a ‘scab’. Join the colleagues’ actions. http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-day-of-strike/

Mar 22 05:17

DaemonFC

WGN running McDonalds ads.

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: I like how you said clown

schestowitz-TR

and disservices

DaemonFC

They're doing that Szechuan sauce thing again, and this time you have to use some stupid app to order it.

schestowitz-TR

we need to spread such vocabularies

schestowitz-TR

they can help wean people off the disservices

schestowitz-TR

they don't want to be clowns

DaemonFC

In the last 15 years, they haven't managed to add one year's worth of decent music to the major label catalogs, so paying for Spotify is basically paying for a lot of garbage.

Mar 22 05:26

techrights-news

Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162825

Mar 22 05:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

Mar 22 05:26

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Josh Simmons, Megan Byrd-Sanicki and Italo Vignoli Out of OSI Board, ASF Board Update • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162826

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Josh Simmons, Megan Byrd-Sanicki and Italo Vignoli Out of OSI Board, ASF Board Update | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162827

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines

DaemonFC

Adam Ruins Everything did one about Spotify, schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC

And Apple Music, etc.... by way of saying "streaming revenues".

DaemonFC

He said that the cuts that the labels took for themselves and their lawyers and the company that does the streaming meant that you can't make enough money to get by just by doing music anymore.

schestowitz-TR

it's awful

DaemonFC

Even if it performs well in streaming.

schestowitz-TR

I have a lot of music collections

schestowitz-TR

and I can carry them on for 20+ years

DaemonFC

They have to do promotions and commercials and all of this shit because that's where the money is.

techrights-news

Links 22/3/2022: Samba 4.16.0 and EPO Strike Day | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/samba-4-16-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/samba-4-16-0/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/3/2022: Samba 4.16.0 and EPO Strike Day | Techrights

schestowitz-TR

most real musicians never make enough money to cover the basics

techrights-news

IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162828

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Techrights is weaning itself off a dying SSD (my main laptop). Might slow down publication as we evacuate data to safer storage devices. Thanks for the understanding....

Mar 22 05:31

schestowitz

MinceR: gm gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D179.jpg

Mar 22 05:32

techrights-news

"I'm still mulling over how I can balance my desire to contribute positively to this digital community with my entrenched reticence to share anything whatsoever about what I do, say, or think with anyone anywhere, at any time." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/854

Mar 22 05:33

DaemonFC

I got that chest freezer I ordered today. Should store plenty.

Mar 22 05:34

DaemonFC

schestowitz, Apparently, someone in Aurora, CO pulled up at a gas station and filled up 3,000 gallons worth of diesel fuel into tanks they brought with them and then did something to the pump to where it just dispensed it without charging them.

Mar 22 05:42

DaemonFC

They made off with over $50,000 worth of diesel.

Mar 22 05:42

schestowitz-TR

wow

Mar 22 05:42

DaemonFC

Mandy was pretty pissed that I got a big chest freezer.

Mar 22 05:44

DaemonFC

I told him I was tired of seeing an entire shelf of markdown chicken or steak and only being able to grab a few and then leaning on the freezer door and strapping it shut.

Mar 22 05:44

schestowitz-TR

we thought the same

schestowitz-TR

but..

schestowitz-TR

decided not to do it

DaemonFC

As long as you package it properly, most meat freezes pretty well for a couple of years.

schestowitz-TR

1) you are not guaranteed high occupancy

schestowitz-TR

2) you pay for electricity

schestowitz-TR

3) price of energy can go up sharply

schestowitz-TR

4) it takes up space and can require repairs

schestowitz-TR

from what I can gather the discounts you get aren't much

schestowitz-TR

not like here where we can find 90% off or more

DaemonFC

Usually they run for years and years without trouble.

DaemonFC

My old one, I only lost it because I had to leave it at John's house.

schestowitz-TR

your sources of discounted food may also run out

schestowitz-TR

years down the line

schestowitz-TR

if you have an old fridge/freezer, you can add them

schestowitz-TR

but buying a spare just for storage will cost you in power bills

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Mar 22 05:50

DaemonFC

About $3 a month or so.

Mar 22 05:53

DaemonFC

Which these days is less than one trip to Jewel for meat in gasoline.

DaemonFC

*shrug*

schestowitz-TR

+price of freezer

schestowitz-TR

plus repairs

schestowitz-TR

plus occasional cleaning

schestowitz-TR

so you start at about $200 base

schestowitz-TR

then operation costs

DaemonFC

My last one ran fine for 6 years before shithead got it.

schestowitz-TR

and your discounts need to catch up and justify the expenditure

DaemonFC

No telling how long it would have lasted.

DaemonFC

Many refrigerators from the 1980s still run.

DaemonFC

They're not efficient, but they do run.

schestowitz-TR

they are efficient in other way

schestowitz-TR

like not having to be replaced every 5-10 years

schestowitz-TR

it takes a ton of energy to produce one

DaemonFC

Like an old car.

schestowitz-TR

our stupid kettle barely lasted a year (just a bit longer)

DaemonFC

People look at the gas mileage, but not the fact that the bank wants a lot of money for a new one.

schestowitz-TR

and it was a decent brand

DaemonFC

Fully a third of the cost of a car can be the bank interest!

DaemonFC

<schestowitz-TR> and it was a decent brand

DaemonFC

I got a $10 glass kettle from Amazon.

DaemonFC

It works fine almost two years later.

schestowitz-TR

that's nothing

DaemonFC

One of those Chinese brands.

schestowitz-TR

tell me when you reach 7 or 10

schestowitz-TR

our last one lasted 7

schestowitz-TR

not purchased onlinea

DaemonFC

I stocked up on instant coffee this week. iBotta.

schestowitz-TR

an actual store, not expensive but betteer material

schestowitz-TR

electronics have become really bad

DaemonFC

That's another thing. I stocked my old chest freezer with frozen food I got iBotta rebates on.

schestowitz-TR

in my experience, taiwan invests more in the components

DaemonFC

Still had room for markdowns!

DaemonFC

Mom and Gonad always had a chest freezer.

DaemonFC

They ended up with two refrigerators and a chest freezer going.

DaemonFC

The second fridge was JUST to keep Gonad's beer cold.

DaemonFC

And it was a fridge meant for a family.

DaemonFC

schestowitz-TR

for his frosting+milk binges

DaemonFC

Oh no, that was Dave.

schestowitz-TR

ah, ok

DaemonFC

Third idiot.

DaemonFC

He would straight up eat an entire container of cake frosting.

DaemonFC

Then wash it down with a GALLON of milk.

schestowitz-TR

at least he was happy

schestowitz-TR

for that while

DaemonFC

Then he'd sit there stretching out new underwear with his foot going "Why won't these fit? I know I'm a 2XL!".

schestowitz-TR

maybe better than heroin addiction

DaemonFC

Reminds me of Al Bundy going "Look, lady, you're a 9. I can accept it, why can't you?".

DaemonFC

Anyway, off to bed. :)

schestowitz-TR

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"Unlike applications or e-books, the experience of using the Web is not confined to content provided by one vendor." https://educatedguesswork.org/posts/web-security-model-origin/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-educatedguesswork.org | Understanding The Web Security Model, Part III: Basic Principles and the Origin Concept

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"I know I keep making this point, but it really can't be overemphasized—as long as the data sent to the client is valid HTML, the browser doesn't care how it was generated." https://educatedguesswork.org/posts/web-security-model-intro2/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-educatedguesswork.org | Understanding The Web Security Model, Part II: Web Applications

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"The advice to use strong types or to put units in names is not limited to variables and function arguments" https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2022/03/20/please-put-units-in-names

Mar 22 06:42

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Mar 22 06:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ruudvanasseldonk.com | Please put units in names

Mar 22 06:42

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Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/599072-white-house-warns-russia-prepping-possible-cyberattacks-on-us

Mar 22 06:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-White House warns Russia prepping possible cyberattacks against US | TheHill

Mar 22 06:43

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Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/599118-biden-asks-top-ceos-to-invest-in-combating-potential-cyberattacks

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden tells CEOs they have 'patriotic obligation' to guard against Russian cyberattacks | TheHill

techrights-news

"The outage impacted some apps and people differently. In some cases, an app like the App Store would load but would hang or wouldn’t let you download an app." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/apple-services-are-users-rcna20911

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Apple services are down for some users

techrights-news

"Microsoft has not made any categorical denial of the claim that its Azure DevOps servers were breached and data stolen." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/first-samsung-breach,-now-microsoft-lapsus$-makes-bold-claim.html"

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/first-samsung-breach,-now-microsoft-lapsus$-makes-bold-claim.html"

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - First Samsung breach, now Microsoft: Lapsus$ makes bold claim

techrights-news

"The South American-based data extortion hacking group Lapsus$ has allegedly gained access to Microsoft's Azure DevOps source code repositories and stolen data from the company." https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-may-be-the-latest-victim-of-lapsusdollar

Mar 22 06:45

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft may be the latest victim of Lapsus$ | TechRadar

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Mar 22 08:04

kingoffrance

re: "cannot find why gcc/linker adds stuff which it should not/need not to do: __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0" my guess is even c code...might call other c code...that calls c++ ....so knowledge of c++ exceptions (im assuming that is what it is used for, from the name) is needed at multiple levels for things to work, because languages call eachother.

Mar 22 08:18

kingoffrance

and vice versa as well

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Mar 22 09:27

techrights-news

"And while sales figures are hard to come by, one report said that global purchases of dumbphones were due to hit one billion units last year, up from 400 million in 2019." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60763168

Mar 22 09:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Not smart but clever? The return of 'dumbphones' - BBC News

Mar 22 09:31

techrights-news

KeePassXC 2.7 Password Manager Released with Major Changes, Here’s What’s New • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162829

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KeePassXC 2.7 Password Manager Released with Major Changes, Here’s What’s New | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Ubuntu Users Receive a New Major Linux Kernel Update, 22 Security Flaws Patched • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162830

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Users Receive a New Major Linux Kernel Update, 22 Security Flaws Patched | Tux Machines

techrights-news

The real risks of investing in cryptocurrencies [sic] https://www.parisbeacon.com/64005/

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: parisbeacon.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.parisbeacon.com/64005/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.parisbeacon.com | The real risks of investing in cryptocurrencies - Paris Beacon News

techrights-news

"Bitcoin mining is currently estimated to account for about 0.5% of global electricity consumption" https://arcticportal.org/ap-library/news-list/2783-bitcoin-is-a-pollution-creating-mess

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: arcticportal.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://arcticportal.org/ap-library/news-list/2783-bitcoin-is-a-pollution-creating-mess

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arcticportal.org | Bitcoin is a pollution-creating mess - Arctic Portal

techrights-news

"The power consumption of cryptocurrencies is a contentious subject." https://singularityhub.com/2022/03/07/bitcoins-carbon-emissions-are-rising-after-chinas-crypto-ban/

Mar 22 09:37

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: singularityhub.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://singularityhub.com/2022/03/07/bitcoins-carbon-emissions-are-rising-after-chinas-crypto-ban/

Mar 22 09:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-singularityhub.com | Bitcoin's Carbon Emissions Are Rising After China's Crypto Ban

Mar 22 09:37

techrights-news

"A team of researchers from the Netherlands, Switzerland and Germany has found that as Bitcoin miners have moved from China to the U.S. and other countries" https://phys.org/news/2022-02-bitcoin-carbon-emissions-countries.html

Mar 22 09:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Bitcoin carbon emissions rise as mining moves to US and other countries

Mar 22 09:38

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SomeH4x0r

matey

XRevan86

matey

this is a very friendly channel

Mar 22 09:47

matey

sometimes

Mar 22 09:47

matey

thats more often than a lot of irc channels though

Mar 22 09:48

matey

i mean this could be libera

Mar 22 09:48

matey

/me shudders

Mar 22 09:48

matey

i would consider libera like alice trying to chat with the queen of hearts

matey

except that everybody is the queen of hearts

techrights-news

IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 21, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/irc-log-210322/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/irc-log-210322/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 21, 2022 | Techrights

matey

so then i was at libreplanet and richard stallman

matey

OFF WITH HER HEAD!

schestowitz-TR

matey: that's a good metaphor

matey

but all i said was

matey

OFF WITH HER HEAD!

matey

matey: that's a good metaphor <- sadly, it is

schestowitz-TR

with those other networks, freenode included, you need to appease about a dozen people

matey

and not just to toot my own horn, thats where we are now

schestowitz-TR

if they are volunteers, they owe you nothing

schestowitz-TR

if they are staff (their term), it's run like a company

schestowitz-TR

either way, it is a limiting factor

schestowitz-TR

[09:47] <matey> this is a very friendly channel

schestowitz-TR

preceded by a Ukranian, saying hi, replied to by Russian, then America

matey

i wasnt joking, but there is a tongue-in-cheek aspect to it

matey

yes, thats a fair assessment

schestowitz-TR

which I think is how corporations should, but do NOT, define diversity

matey

my first thought after saying that

schestowitz-TR

they just mix colours and stuff

schestowitz-TR

for the brochures

matey

well, theres definitely two sides to it

matey

but it doesnt negate what i said

schestowitz-TR

"look! we work for ICE!!! But we employ some latinos... as janitors"

matey

basically that

schestowitz-TR

[18:47] <techrights-news> Who thought Gulag would profit from a gulag? https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/google-settles-over-firing-workers-protesting-immigration-cloud-deal-2022-03-21/ Microsoft also: http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google settles over firing of workers protesting immigration cloud deal | Reuters

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights

schestowitz-TR

"SOOOO WOKE"

matey

ibm is run by a woman, but also helps people kill (sorry, detain) people for being brown

matey

but wait, they dont do that anymore

matey

now they (other horrible thing)

matey

plus, female at the helm!

schestowitz-TR

ICBM

schestowitz-TR

maybe they are happy

schestowitz-TR

they stay in Russia

schestowitz-TR

like Tom Watson

matey

did he go to russia? i only knew about his trips to germany

schestowitz-TR

and they get to sell more nuclear systems in the USA

schestowitz-TR

because with growing tensions it means more sales

schestowitz-TR

matey: his son flew support missions to Moscow

matey

/me buys flags and waves them

schestowitz-TR

to give Stalin supplies

matey

ah yes stalin, the great leftist

schestowitz-TR

the son later became IBM's chief

http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/russia-history-ibm/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and Red Hat Boycott Russia and Belarus, But IBM’s History Tells a Different Story | Techrights

schestowitz

they even took group photos

matey

they always take group photos

matey

watson and hitler, gates and epstein

schestowitz-TR

foolish

matey

its pride

schestowitz-TR

they don't know if someone in the group winds up being a mass murderer, pedo etc.

schestowitz-TR

it's status by association

schestowitz-TR

like me taking photos with rms (I never did)

matey

they don't know if someone <- daemonfc will confirm this: its not that they dont know, its really that they dont care

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matey

i would have taken a photo with rms

schestowitz-TR

matey: you summoned him

matey

but it would have to be someone elses camera

schestowitz-TR

taking photos is easy

matey

you summoned him <- i was thinking loud enough that it wouldnt have mattered if i said the name or not

schestowitz-TR

the other stuff is harder

matey

<matey> they always take group photos

matey

<matey> watson and hitler, gates and epstein

matey

<schestowitz-TR> they don't know if someone in the group winds up being a mass murderer, pedo etc.

matey

<matey> they don't know if someone <- daemonfc will confirm this: its not that they dont know, its really that they dont care

matey

^ daemonfc

schestowitz-TR

I am trying to think if I took bad group photos

schestowitz-TR

incrimination "by association"

matey

theres that one with you and jeffrey dahmer

matey

/me made it up

matey

and bob sagat, after he... no, thats a gilbert gottfried routine

schestowitz-TR

when justin timberlake was in the gym about 20 years ago I asked

schestowitz-TR

but his bodyguard said no

matey

there you go

schestowitz-TR

my sister wanted me to get a photos

schestowitz-TR

because she was a fan

matey

naturally

techrights-news

Can't argue with Vlad on this one... https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1885004.html

Mar 22 10:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Social media crackdown: Russia bans Instagram and Facebook as 'extremist'

Mar 22 10:00

techrights-news

Social control media = cesspool, very seldom information https://thehill.com/policy/international/599079-facebook-failed-to-detect-hate-speech-against-rohingya-report-finds

Mar 22 10:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook failed to detect hate speech against Rohingya, report finds | TheHill

Mar 22 10:01

techrights-news

Social control media is an accelerator of conflict.

Mar 22 10:01

techrights-news

"Multiple social media posts purport to show a photo of a Ukrainian farmer stealing a Russian rocket." https://today.rtl.lu/news/fact-check/a/1885225.html Social control media = Misinformation/Disinformation

Mar 22 10:02

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Fact Check: This is an old NASA photo doctored to add a tractor

Mar 22 10:02

techrights-news

"The video was released on YouTube just hours after Downing Street accused Vladimir Putin’s Russia of hoaxing the Defence Secretary and Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, through impostors" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/21/russia-releases-video-ben-wallace-supporting-ukraines-nuclear/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Watch: Russia releases hoax video of Ben Wallace ‘discussing Ukraine’s nuclear ambitions’

techrights-news

Now the Islamic Republic of United Kingdom must release Julian Assange (to show it's better than Iran) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/19/exclusive-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-spends-first-days-reunited/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Exclusive: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe spends first days reunited with family at Chancellor’s Georgian mansion

techrights-ipfs-bot

techrights-ipfs-bot

279.95 ⟲

techrights-news

GNU Linux-Libre 5.17 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162831

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-Libre 5.17 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs | Tux Machines

matey

someone was telling me they had heard of teletypes

matey

but didnt realise that you could still connect them to modern equipment

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087983743/putin-coat-zelenskyy-shirts-fashion-statement-russia-ukraine-war

DaemonFC

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087983743/putin-coat-zelenskyy-shirts-fashion-statement-russia-ukraine-war

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | The political statements of Putin's blue coat and Zelenskyy's T-shirts. : NPR

matey

i said of course-- all computing is rube goldberg machines

matey

even a bash pipeline is a rube goldberg machine

DaemonFC

Makes "$119,000" a year, spends $14,000 on coat.

DaemonFC

What is this? A CNBC budget?

matey

sounds like marisol

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: NPR: "supported by listeners"

schestowitz-TR

covera war

schestowitz-TR

focuses on garments

matey

the listener supported bill and melinda station

schestowitz-TR

some 'journalism' you got there

DaemonFC

MALINDA

schestowitz-TR

maybe they shou;d probe Bill and Lolita Foundation on accountability

DaemonFC

"I just couldn't trust what we had."

schestowitz-TR

Bill does not want a 61 year oild

schestowitz-TR

he wanted 16

matey

i know the divorce is going to beugly, but i still wonder who will get the oscar

schestowitz-TR

"he baby... me gots losta monies"

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087988691/washington-dc-attorney-general-grubhub-food-delivery-lawsuit

DaemonFC

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087988691/washington-dc-attorney-general-grubhub-food-delivery-lawsuit

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | D.C. sues Grubhub for allegedly using deceptive trade practices : NPR

matey

/me invented "beugly" today, which is anything that has a bugle-like quality

techrights-news

"Ferrell hoped her experience organizing a campaign against book challenges might be instructive to others who similarly oppose what she views as a politically-driven campaign" https://text.npr.org/1087000890

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1087000890

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Book bans and the threat of censorship rev up political activism in the suburbs

DaemonFC

Yes, I've heard about people cursing out restaurant workers and leaving bad reviews because GrubHub screwed them on their order, even though the restaurant did not consent to being on GrubHub.

DaemonFC

The apps are unsustainable.

matey

well you know, if someone will call the police about mcnuggets

DaemonFC

This Walmart+ thing in particular is a joke.

matey

"hello, 911? someone got my order wrong"

schestowitz

(cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D179.jpg

matey

before there was karen

DaemonFC

Nobody picks up orders that only pay $4-5 and require going across town.

schestowitz

(cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D537.jpg

matey

/me has heard of walmart+, but usually they call it amazon

DaemonFC

Some people did at first and then found out Walmart encourages you not to tip them and just says "free delivery from store".

DaemonFC

IOW, Walmart basically expects the driver to work for free.

DaemonFC

That's their problem!

matey

why not? they expect it of their workers

techrights-news

TWITTER: NO HUMOUR HERE!! Go urge people to KILL A RUSSIAN instead!! That's better for ENGAGEMENT. https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/babylon-bee-editor-we-refuse-to-bow-to-twitters-censorship-of-a-joke/

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nypost.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/babylon-bee-editor-we-refuse-to-bow-to-twitters-censorship-of-a-joke/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Babylon Bee editor: We refuse to bow to Twitter's censorship of a joke

matey

and their shoppers (at the checkout)

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Mar 22 10:11

techrights-news

Apple products: shits in white plastics. DRM: "Unlike all of Apple’s other M1-powered computers, the Mac Studio’s storage isn’t soldered onto the mainboard" https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/21/22989226/apple-mac-studios-removable-ssd-blocked-software-replacement

Mar 22 10:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The Mac Studio’s removable SSD is reportedly blocked by Apple on a software level - The Verge

Mar 22 10:11

techrights-news

"Ian’s Take: After Apple’s announcement that they were going to allow users to repair their iPhones with genuine Apple parts, I had hoped that Apple would allow upgradeability." https://appletrack.com/the-mac-studios-upgradability-has-been-locked-in-software/

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: appletrack.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appletrack.com/the-mac-studios-upgradability-has-been-locked-in-software/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New video shows Mac Studio is upgradable (but Apple blocked it in software) - AppleTrack

techrights-news

There's no such thing as "unsupported PC" so just move to GNU/Linux and help save the planet, too https://www.pcworld.com/article/624957/running-windows-11-on-an-unsupported-pc-get-ready-for-a-desktop-watermark.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running Windows 11 on an unsupported PC? Get ready for a desktop watermark | PCWorld

matey

me ranting about guis: (which im not entirely against, but there are drawbacks)

matey

stability is stability, reliability is reliability. thats harder to fake

matey

than a useful standard. and nearly impossible to get from a gui, too! why

matey

are guis so unstable? because theyre visual, and subject to fashion. and

matey

you know how fashion works-- out with everything, in with everything new!

matey

"but i use to this to" "DOESNT MATTER! CHECK OUT OUR FALL LINE!"

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/amid-high-gas-prices-chicago-man-goes-viral-for-putting-mortgage-payment-in-rv-tank

DaemonFC

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Amid high gas prices, Chicago man goes viral for putting 'mortgage' payment in RV tank

DaemonFC

An entire country risks living in a tent.

schestowitz-TR

risks?

schestowitz-TR

it's common already

DaemonFC

Fox32 Chicago posts about high gas prices making people who own an RV angry.

schestowitz-TR

but the rich will leave

schestowitz-TR

with their offshore accounts

matey

i said a bunch of things, but among them: you make a gui of something, you either promise to red o it whenever gtk "reinvents itself" or you have some debian person say "its unmaintained" meaning "they didnt redo all the gui code"

DaemonFC

Hunter Biden's laptop of child porn and money laundering.....

matey

youre adding a feature that adds instability to your project

DaemonFC

The New York Post is talking about it again.

matey

but sometimes guis are useful. its a cost/risk assessment

matey

and if you can avoid them (or make them separate) thats a plus

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matey

o/ CParadoxum__

DaemonFC

"If you’re looking for other ways to save money on gas, personal finance expert Dave Ramsey shared six smart tips recently with FOX Business:"

DaemonFC

LOL

DaemonFC

Use loyalty programs, carpool, eat the cats.... Advice from the rich on how to deal with Bidenflation.

DaemonFC

The cats eat $17 in food every week.

DaemonFC

Do you really need those?

DaemonFC

-Dave Ramsey

DaemonFC

It's not cheap to take care of a cat or a dog, properly.

Mar 22 10:20

matey

there are free kittens, there are no free cats

DaemonFC

If you feed them the big bag of food off the pallet that costs $9.99, it's not really what they need in order to live a long time and be healthy.

matey

and the kittens arent free for a whole week

DaemonFC

Lots of cheap fillers and garbage. The first ingredient is probably corn.

matey

The first ingredient is probably corn. <- same as the shit they sell to people to eat

DaemonFC

With the really cheap cat foods, you sometimes get to the third ingredient before there's any meat.

DaemonFC

Yes, but corn doesn't harm people really.

matey

taco bell could just pivot and put their stuff in cans.

DaemonFC

Cats are carnivorous. They're supposed to eat meat exclusively.

matey

Yes, but corn doesn't harm people really. <- someones never heard of novartis

DaemonFC

The expensive dried cat food is usually about 60-70% meat, but the cheap stuff is usually only about 20-30%, and that's why it's so cheap.

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Mar 22 10:23

DaemonFC

They're putting corn and stuff in there and then only by the third ingredient do you get to "meat byproduct meal" which is internal organs and stuff, which there's nothing wrong with as an ingredient, but.....

Mar 22 10:23

techrights-news

Court Says Non-Open 'Open Source' Code is False Advertising - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/03/19/1546209 while OSI advertises proprietary Microsoft/GitHub as open!! What an OWN goal.

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Court Says Non-Open 'Open Source' Code is False Advertising - SoylentNews

DaemonFC

It should read something like "Chicken, Chicken byproduct meal, dried egg powder" and only then should it get to some sort of rice or pea ingredient (not corn).

DaemonFC

And this should be the minimum you consider feeding the cat.

bnchs

matey: i'm trying to split up a client (that has both the server communications and GUI) into a daemon

techrights-news

Humour not allowed in Twitter https://www.mediaite.com/online/were-not-deleting-anything-babylon-bee-defiant-after-twitter-locks-their-account-for-tweet-calling-rachel-levine-man-of-the-year/

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mediaite.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mediaite.com/online/were-not-deleting-anything-babylon-bee-defiant-after-twitter-locks-their-account-for-tweet-calling-rachel-levine-man-of-the-year/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mediaite.com | Babylon Bee Defiant After Twitter Suspends Their Account

DaemonFC

If you see corn as the top ingredient, it's not fit for a cat that will be primarily eating that.

bnchs

this is in a package unmaintained since 2012

DaemonFC

Outdoor cats hunt and mostly eat birds and rodents and insects.

matey

bnchs: impressive

matey

what package?

DaemonFC

So a few bites of cheap kibble won't hurt them much.

bnchs

its a cyber cafe management software

matey

nice

DaemonFC

People get a bit weird about their cats. Like, "I would never feed mine anything with BYPRODUCT MEAL!".

DaemonFC

If they kill and eat something outdoors, it's got organs and bones and all.

DaemonFC

What's wrong with ground up organs and bones? It's a good source of protein and minerals.

bnchs

i'm planning to use unix sockets for inter-process communication, but i dont know how that will work in windows

matey

but probably no corn

techrights-news

When Microsoft SHIPS MALWARE they blame "Open Source"; When PROPRIETARY Windows has issue guess what takes the blame... https://itwire.com/security/proofpoint-claims-attack-using-open-source-installer-to-target-windows.html

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DaemonFC

"All living things must eat!" -The Wraith Queen

DaemonFC

MinceR, ^

matey

but i dont know how that will work in windows <- probably not at all, unless windows has unix sockets :)

matey

/me knew what they meant

DaemonFC

"Looks like the food didn't agree with him!" -Col. Sumner "There we are quite different. We do not require OUR FOOD to agree with us." -The Queen

bnchs

matey: microsoft didnt even implement unix sockets in windows until 2017

matey

windows has ipc

matey

apple has imac

matey

microsoft didnt even implement unix sockets in windows until 2017 <- better late than never

DaemonFC

You _could_ use Unix Sockets on Services for UNIX-based Applications. But that was an overlay system.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/af_unix-comes-to-windows/

bnchs

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: microsoft.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/af_unix-comes-to-windows/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devblogs.microsoft.com | AF_UNIX comes to Windows - Windows Command Line

bnchs

windows has unix sockets in 2017

bnchs

windows before 2017: no way to communicate between processes

DaemonFC

Microsoft isn't thrilled about Wine or Proton.

DaemonFC

Bungie is supposedly independent now, but obviously not really.

DaemonFC

If they were, they wouldn't care if you used Proton or Wine as long as you bought a license to their game.

matey

secure socket layer for unix sockets for windows subsystem for linux

techrights-news

This was shipped by Microsoft; stop blaming "open source" when Microsoft sends malware around https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/21/22989339/protestware-attacks-russia-sberbank-open-source

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | After ‘protestware’ attacks, a Russian bank has advised clients to stop updating software - The Verge

DaemonFC

Instead, they plan to ban your account if they find out you use it.

bnchs

"protestware"

techrights-news

More censorship https://www.kadn.com/news/community-members-fighting-back-against-censorship/article_a6b72b56-a983-11ec-b55a-87e4bf6b42ce.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Community Members Fighting Back Against Censorship | News | kadn.com

bnchs

thanks to brandon miller

bnchs

i wish brandon miller would stop cheating on his wife

DaemonFC

An independent company who sees Proton users would say "Oh cool, our sales will go up 4-5% and Valve is doing all of the work.".

techrights-news

Gulag has already hung up on mariupol https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-rejects-russian-ultimatum-to-surrender-mariupol-/6494010.html see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Pentagon: 'Clear Evidence' of Russian War Crimes in Ukraine

bnchs

the best way to write a software

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights

DaemonFC

For Microsoft, it's a way to try to shore up Windows. They have their moles still in control of this company and are trying to use Bungie to prop up failing Windows marketshare.

bnchs

is to write it first for unix-like OSes

bnchs

and then port to windows with #ifdef _WIN32

matey

/me is looking forward to april

Mar 22 10:33

matey

for no reason

Mar 22 10:33

matey

rms is going to prove me right. or prove me wrong. its win-win. i hope he proves me wrong (he wont, but it would be nice)

Mar 22 10:34

techrights-news

"We’ll also discuss how computer education can help create the next generation of makers and builders that we need to solve some of society’s biggest problems." EFF still pretending to support hacker culture? It is ATTACKING it. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-hack-future

Mar 22 10:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Hack to the Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation

Mar 22 10:34

bnchs

computer education

matey

would be a good idea

bnchs

as long as its not locking in people into proprietary OSes

matey

^ even better

techrights-news

Hacking Justice: Julian Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/events/hacking-justice-julian-assange-film-screening-and-qa/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Hacking Justice: Julian Assange - Film Screening and Q&A - Don't Extradite Assange

bnchs

also not locking in people into proprietary tools

Mar 22 10:39

DaemonFC

I don't know how hard it is to not cheat on your spouse.

Mar 22 10:40

DaemonFC

Librarian: "Make a promise, keep a promise!" Al Bundy: "Yeah yeah yeah. Make a pie, eat a pie!"

Mar 22 10:40

matey

systemd didnt qualify because its not a physical device https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VpLDfkLBJ0Q

Mar 22 10:41

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Largest Rube Goldberg Machine - Guinness World Records - Invidious

Mar 22 10:41

bnchs

DaemonFC: do you agree there's an industry profitting off of divorces

Mar 22 10:41

DaemonFC

Yeah, they're called lawyers.

Mar 22 10:42

DaemonFC

The divorce lawyers haven't had business as good as they used to though.

Mar 22 10:42

DaemonFC

Less marriages to begin with, and less pressure on very young adults to get married off quickly to people they hardly know.

Mar 22 10:42

matey

and thats just the boot process

bnchs

what they profit off of

bnchs

is incompatible marriages

DaemonFC

Plus, there's divorce robots now.

DaemonFC

Instead of lawyers.

DaemonFC

If you and your spouse just want rid of each other and agree on how to split everything up, a robot can write up the court petition.

DaemonFC

Most sites charge about 2% of what you'd both pay for a divorce attorney.

bnchs

i mean pressuring people to get married

bnchs

and shilling marriage

DaemonFC

So if you don't have substantial assets and can come to an agreement, it's better to just use a program.

techrights-news

Maybe EFF should also tell people to ban/boycott DuckDuckGo (Microsoft proxy, spying) instead of shilling it https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/ban-online-behavioral-advertising

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Ban Online Behavioral Advertising | Electronic Frontier Foundation

SomeH4x0r

ban online advertising in general

DaemonFC

Yeah, most people just aren't compatible with each other.

DaemonFC

And calling cohabitating for a while "living in sin" is just a ridiculous way to perpetuate a vicious cycle.

bnchs

yes and they thrive off that

bnchs

divorce, alimony

DaemonFC

It's almost impossible for people to keep up appearances for a year. If you live together for a year and call it a dry run before you get married, the ones that shouldn't be married will mostly figure that out before they make a big mistake.

Mar 22 10:46

DaemonFC

So discouraging cohabitation is a way to ensure there will be more bad marriages heading for divorce court.

Mar 22 10:46

DaemonFC

I'm not saying it should go on forever, but you have people like my mom where there was never any rush to get married like I was in, where the feds were looking for any excuse to get immigrants out of this country while Trump was in office.

Mar 22 10:47

DaemonFC

She was always married to another US citizen, so you didn't have USCIS making it a shotgun wedding.

Mar 22 10:47

DaemonFC

Then when she had nobody to blame but herself, she always found some reason why it's never her fault she's in the predicament she's in.

Mar 22 10:48

DaemonFC

If she had back the $60,000 she lost remodeling houses she lost to divorce and making the bills while Gonad drank her out of house and home and spent all of his money on that.....

Mar 22 10:49

DaemonFC

Or Dave.

Mar 22 10:49

DaemonFC

I mean, she let them pretty much live off her and spend their money doing whatever it is they wanted to do on payday.

Mar 22 10:49

DaemonFC

There's a lot of women who enable this for some reason.

Mar 22 10:50

DaemonFC

They don't think they can do better, or they think they don't deserve better, so they don't even try.

Mar 22 10:50

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Mar 22 10:51

matey

he never did confirm

Mar 22 10:51

matey

Tue 09:55:54 │ 〖matey〗 │ they don't know if someone <- daemonfc will confirm this: its not that they dont know, its really that they dont care

Mar 22 10:52

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techrights-news

Raytheon: close friend of ICBM Red Hat https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/21/peace-activists-occupy-roof-raytheon-building-protest-war-profiteering see http://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/

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techrights-news

What has EFF done about it? Except spreading hate of its own? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/anti-war-hacktivism-leading-digital-xenophobia-and-more-hostile-internet

Mar 22 10:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Anti-War Hacktivism is Leading to Digital Xenophobia and a More Hostile Internet | Electronic Frontier Foundation

Mar 22 10:54

matey

the swish machine has only 70 steps but its way more epic. the guy has a ball rolling off the roof of his house-- theres a bicycle wheel that rolls across with nothing to guide it. you could have twice as many steps and not be as cool as that

Mar 22 10:56

matey

^ guiness book rube goldberg machine (im sure the swish machine guy isnt mad at them, im just saying his is better than the record setting one)

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Mar 22 10:57

matey

theyre done at entirely different levels of scale and skill

bnchs

yes

bnchs

everyone is hating on russians

bnchs

"hacktivism"

matey

russians are ok

matey

not pudding

bnchs

but they discriminate against russians entirely

matey

thats dumb

bnchs

and it wasnt just a week ago, Brandon Nozaki Miller inserted malware into node-ipc

matey

node like node.js? npm, etc?

bnchs

that overwrites files in hard drive with hearts if IP was russian

bnchs

matey: it was a npm package

matey

that overwrites files in hard drive with hearts <- does he have blue hair?

bnchs

bnchs

his social control media accounts got hacked for that

bnchs

and he got doxed

bnchs

turns out he cheated on his wife

matey

hacktivism targets companies and governments

matey

if you just target civilians based on, whatever

matey

thats not hacktivism, thats just being a cunt

bnchs

also he got pizzabombed and swatted

bnchs

people called the police on him

matey

i would have been against the swatting

matey

though really, thats a crime so... calling the police would be redundant

bnchs

yeah

matey

is he being charged?

bnchs

well i dont know

matey

im a bit sympathetic to people who actually do... conscientious... this wasnt-- hes a dick

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Miller_(motorcyclist)

bnchs

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wikipedia.org | Brandon Miller (motorcyclist) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Miller_(motorcyclist)

bnchs

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Brandon Miller (motorcyclist) - Wikipedia

matey

he has a wikipedia page?

bnchs

this was his self-made wikipedia page

matey

does he ride competitively or something? i can go to the link, but its slightly involved

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bnchs

bnchs

and even then he deserves to be doxed

bnchs

nothing but a malicious dev

matey

devils advocate (not really) time

Mar 22 11:06

matey

actually not devils advocate-- just looking at this from another angle

Mar 22 11:06

matey

any reasonable configuration of node-ipc

matey

would not...

matey

i dont know how node-ipc works, but you would hope it didnt have the permissions to write to anything important

matey

ive never used node.js-- i thought about it lots of times

matey

then it moved to github and i was like "no, thats ok"

techrights-news

Stop calling patents "IP" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/21/top-economists-and-oxfam-leader-demand-truly-just-covid-ip-waiver

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matey

or npm moved there

bnchs

node-ipc was meant for stuff like inter-process communications

bnchs

unix sockets

matey

hence the name

bnchs

TCP sockets or UDP

matey

but does ipc need to be able to write files?

bnchs

if it needs to talk to the socket, yes

techrights-news

GulagTube censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/copyright-as-censorship-youtuber-pulls-down-gofundme-video-to-help-victim-of-viral-youtube-jumping-tesla-stunt

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bnchs

but the problem is node.js is inflexiblr

bnchs

node-ipc gets ran with same perms as the rest of the program

matey

right

bnchs

which is the user running the program

matey

this is why pledge is cool

matey

i dont know if pledge would help with this, it seems like the sort of scenario where pledge is useful though

Mar 22 11:10

matey

none of which is a defence of miller obviously

Mar 22 11:10

matey

im simply trying to figure out how much best practices would have mitigated this

Mar 22 11:10

matey

if youre only running node-ipc on production then it hoses those machines

matey

but probably youre using it in development, and...

bnchs

yes

bnchs

vue.js relies on node-ipc

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bnchs

unity hub relies on node-ipc

bnchs

its a supply chain attack

matey

of course

techrights-news

"In 2018, a court in the Netherlands ruled that companies selling access to a pirate IPTV playlist acted illegally, even though they weren't the suppliers of the infringing streams." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-sellers-who-refused-to-pay-a-cash-settlement-get-sued-lose-220321/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pirate IPTV Sellers Who Refused to Pay a Cash Settlement Get Sued & Lose * TorrentFreak

techrights-news

"The bill requires online hosting services to implement standard technical protection measures" https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-senators-introduce-smart-copyright-act-to-combat-piracy-220321/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy * TorrentFreak

matey

/me has described supply chain attacks as ways for corporations to take over free software projects

matey

hopefully with the goal of people getting wise to this

bnchs

vue.js and unity hub is still affected by this

techrights-news

Internet is under attack https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/21/digital-darkness

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matey

github is one enormous supply chain attack

bnchs

when you launch them, the peacenotwar package (that brandon made and hard dep'd it to node-ipc) will make a file on the desktop

matey

vue.js and unity hub is still affected by this <- people havent already rolled back to a safe version of node-ipc?

techrights-news

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bnchs

well npm did rollback to a safe version i think

matey

so the only people affected are those who havent heard, or havent done anything?

matey

obvously it doesnt fix itself

bnchs

the thing is creepy by itself

matey

i agree

bnchs

if you see a file that wasnt there before

bnchs

you would think theres malware

techrights-news

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Free and Open Source Universal Access Tools | Tux Machines

matey

out of curiosity...

bnchs

brandon miller is still trying to justify this btw on github

matey

does the package (which deletes things to be a dick)

matey

and github hasnt banned him because npm is special to them

matey

does the package even spread useful information (to fight russian propaganda) to users?

matey

that would have been a better hack than you know...

bnchs

matey

/me shrugs

bnchs

it just makes a file in your desktop now

bnchs

called "FROM-AMERICA-WITH-LOVE.txt"

matey

and the file isnt even useful?

bnchs

no its just a bunch of garbage

matey

FROM-AMERICA-WITH-LOVE <- james bond reference

matey

"from russia with love"

bnchs

this shit would only unironically get russians in trouble

bnchs

"huh WHATS THIS FILE"

techrights-news

"From a performance standpoint we know building a homebrew Raspberry Pi cluster doesn’t make a lot of sense, as even a fairly run of the mill desktop x86 machine is sure to run circles around it." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/21/cluster-your-pi-zeros-in-style-with-3d-printed-cray-1/

bnchs

"you have fake info???"

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cluster Your Pi Zeros In Style With 3D Printed Cray-1 | Hackaday

techrights-news

That's a war on scientific progress, too https://hackaday.com/2022/03/21/one-giant-leap-backwards-for-humankind-what-the-russia-ukraine-war-means-for-the-iss/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One Giant Leap (Backwards) For Humankind: What The Russia-Ukraine War Means For The ISS | Hackaday

matey

missed opportunity

matey

this was a hack that could have done some good in the world

bnchs

developers shouldn't be a "hero"

matey

developers shouldn't be a "hero" <- thats a good rule of thumb

bnchs

this is will only backfire

matey

im starting with the premise that he felt COMPELLED to hack something

bnchs

and make people think that their program is simply a trojan horse

matey

he could have used it to spread information to people who might not have it otherwise

techrights-news

Stop saying "Big Tech", EFF. You use the vocabulary of Microsoft lobbyists. Have Microsoft moles taken over parts of EFF, too? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/brazils-remuneration-right-strengthens-big-tech-and-big-media-cost-free-expression

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Brazil’s “Remuneration Right” Strengthens Big Tech and Big Media, At the Cost of Free Expression and a Free Press | Electronic Frontier Foundation

matey

the shirt with the hddvd key, thats was a good hack

bnchs

yes

matey

even if it was useless to most people... it served the public

bnchs

something that doesnt involve sneaking malware into libraries

matey

yeah

matey

this is just bullshit

techrights-news

EFF = online censorship https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/make-social-media-work-better-make-it-fail-better-0

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | To Make Social Media Work Better, Make It Fail Better | Electronic Frontier Foundation

matey

of course you get to a certain age and you start thinking this way about hacks :)

matey

but i always preferred hackers with good intentions anyway

matey

or ones that went after people who really deserved it

bnchs

you could sneak info in a DVD

bnchs

something that doesnt impact a software's development

bnchs

in a horrible way

matey

i imagine node-ipc will start paying more attention to

Mar 22 11:25

matey

did he have full access or did someone let his pull request in?

Mar 22 11:25

matey

do we know?

Mar 22 11:25

bnchs

he owns node-ipc

bnchs

it will probably be forked

matey

techrights-news

Boycott Starbucks. It's a company that hates human beings. https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-workers-have-now-filed-to-unionize-at-over-150-locations/

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matey

it will probably be forked <- yeah

bnchs

by a better programmer

matey

hooray for freedom 3

bnchs

that will not use it as a vehicle for malicious activity

matey

i wonder if hes on drugs

matey

i mean, youd think with the level of responsibility he had with node-ipc

bnchs

maybe after he paid 50 dollars to an adultery site

matey

it would take something serious for

techrights-news

Netflix trying to 'cash in', using serfs who chose DRM over rational distribution of "content" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/and-here-comes-the-backlash-to-netflix-trying-to-play-password-police/

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Propaganda boxes perish https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/cable-tv-companies-lost-nearly-5-million-subscribers-in-2021/

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matey

yeah i know better than to assume all developers are responsible just because they

matey

i mean we trusted shuttleworth with root :)

techrights-news

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matey

and he couldnt even repay that with an honest answer

bnchs

also he was planning this

matey

"i fucked up, im s" "YOU ALREADY TRUST ME N00BZ!"

bnchs

brandon was planning for this day

matey

how far back?

bnchs

because the malware was written maybe many months ago

bnchs

evidence of that was erased

bnchs

let me check

matey

you think it was political to begin with, or just "imma put a backdoor in because... i can have this update if i ever want to get back at whoever"

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EFF pretends to value free speech. I LOL. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/new-filter-mandate-bill-unmitigated-disaster

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matey

then he saw an opportunity to use it

https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2022/march/unite-calls-on-computer-chipmaker-arm-to-halt-job-cuts-and-open-up-the-books/

matey

i realise this is a more convoluted scenario, just not a completely implausible one

Mar 22 11:32

matey

occams razor works better with physics than people

Mar 22 11:32

matey

people do crazy shit

Mar 22 11:32

bnchs

yeah

Mar 22 11:33

bnchs

maybe he saw the ukrainian invasion thing as justification

Mar 22 11:33

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Systemic collapse starts like this https://truthout.org/articles/hundreds-of-chevron-workers-begin-strike-as-company-refuses-further-bargaining/

Mar 22 11:34

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Mar 22 11:34

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Mar 22 11:34

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bnchs

matey: https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/heart-attack

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bnchs

the malware was made back in july 2021

matey

was it made for node=ipc? (is that the same author or a 3rd party)

bnchs

although this only affects HTML pages

matey

matey

so he made it nastier

bnchs

yeah

techrights-news

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bnchs

the version in node-ipc affected every single file type

Free Speech https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/the-culture-of-free-speech-includes-criticism-of-others-speech-get-over-it/

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bnchs

and overwrote the entire file contents with a heart emoji

matey

i assume its the unicode of ascii 3

matey

i mean the--

matey

cp437 is actually separate from unicode 03

matey

but in cp437 a heart is ascii 03 (which is unicode 03)

matey

the wikipedia article on cp437 shows you where all the unicode glyphs are for those characters

matey

roy uses some of them for the bot messages in here

bnchs

yeah

matey

"box drawing" characters and "gradients"

bnchs

but assuming that this malware goes back a year ago

bnchs

brandon was planning to add it to node-ipc

bnchs

or maybe

matey

or maybe he just found it recently?

matey

and changed *.html to *

bnchs

yeah

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matey

unless we know otherwise, im going to assume this wasnt planned farther back than the invasion

bnchs

that seems more possible

matey

unless hes the author of the original malware (im guessing its 3rd party)

bnchs

he is the author

matey

im trying to understand how malware (which is documented as such) finds its way to github

bnchs

its a node.js "demo"

matey

ahh

matey

"demo"

matey

if hes the author of the original, thats different

schestowitz-TR

matey: Microsoft doesn't check anything

schestowitz-TR

it relays malware through npm also

schestowitz-TR

and then uses the media to blame the victims

schestowitz-TR

typical

schestowitz-TR

and the media never calls them out on it

schestowitz-TR

what they do all day is NOT check the integrity of things they disseminate

matey

schestowitz-TR of course not, but if its OPENLY malware (not hidden in some routine but packaged as such) i would expect people to report it SOMETIMES

schestowitz-TR

unike Mozilla (to a degree) and WordPress

bnchs

btw

schestowitz-TR

WordPress used to do review of themes

matey

after that, i would expect the USUAL level of care we have come to expect from microsoft

schestowitz-TR

to ensure no php malware in them

matey

really i was just curious what the policy was

bnchs

the malware in node-ipc was obfuscated base64 code that was hidden in a seemingly innocent commit titled "added ssl"

matey

not if they followed it

bnchs

or something

matey

the malware in node-ipc was obfuscated base64 code that was hidden in a seemingly innocent commit titled "added ssl" <- ah, ok

matey

svchost.dll

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bnchs

he deleted it after people caught onto it

matey

svchost.exe

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Mar 22 11:48

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Mar 22 11:48

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"This year’s recipients are computer scientist Paul Eggert, a faculty member at UCLA’s Samueli School of Engineering, Emacs contributor Protesilaos Stavrou, and SecuRepairs" https://fossforce.com/2022/03/whos-who-in-open-source-three-honorees-receive-free-software-awards-at-libreplanet/

Mar 22 11:50

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Mar 22 11:50

matey

you know, he probably thought this was going to make him a hero

Mar 22 11:51

matey

as in, it would gain him respect or something

Mar 22 11:51

matey

its probably more about that than even trying to help anyone

Mar 22 11:51

matey

in other words, opportunism

matey

a shot at fame

bnchs

he only got bitten in the ass for it

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matey

whether its for selfish reasons or actual "good" intentions, its REALLY stupid

bnchs

developers shouldn't be a "hero"

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matey

i dont know if i agree with that as a blanket statement

bnchs

hero as in

matey

i would say for certain MOST attempts to be a "hero" are going to be misguided

bnchs

sneaking in malware

matey

well yeah of course

bnchs

botnet crap

techrights-news

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bnchs

or maybe even delete locale files

bnchs

for russians

matey

i mean this is one step up from script kidding shit

matey

its like if youre a script kiddie but then also someone trusts you with the supply chain

Mar 22 11:54

bnchs

deleting locale files is more harmless than this

Mar 22 11:54

matey

why the fuck would you delete locale files?

bnchs

locale files for the program

matey

loads of ukranians speak russie

matey

russian

bnchs

yeah

matey

just dumb

bnchs

most programmers' attempts to be a "hero" by doing these bullshit

matey

any notable projects that deleted locale files?

bnchs

uptime-kuma

matey

most programmers' attempts to be a "hero" by doing these bullshit <- surely this is a general category of idiocy to stay away from

bnchs

its a project that lets you moniter the uptime of your services

Mar 22 11:57

matey

i guess ps wasnt being maintained

Mar 22 11:57

bnchs

the best way to handle the invasion is to...

Mar 22 12:00

bnchs

do nothing (to your program)

Mar 22 12:01

techrights-ipfs-bot

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Mar 22 12:03

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Mar 22 12:19

CrystalMath

that crap is not the first and by no means the last example of malware in open source repositories

Mar 22 12:20

matey

<CrystalMath> that crap is not the first and by no means the last example of malware in open source repositories <- no, pypi is already famous for this

Mar 22 12:23

matey

and gnome-looks

Mar 22 12:23

matey

themes with active code! why not?

matey

microsofts patent expired

matey

this isnt a new problem

matey

its the latest instance of an old problem

matey

pretty sure its not even the first instance with npm

Mar 22 12:25

matey

just the most famous (now)

Mar 22 12:26

matey

and you know, every time mozilla adds a new feature to firefucks

Mar 22 12:26

matey

thats basically "open source" malware too

Mar 22 12:26

matey

the good news is that this wont destroy brandon miller for good

Mar 22 12:28

matey

chances are, mozilla will hire him next year as their new cto

Mar 22 12:28

matey

since this is the sort of shit they would do anyway

Mar 22 12:28

matey

"at mozilla, everyone is a hero"

Mar 22 12:29

SomeH4x0r

what this time?

Mar 22 12:30

matey

brandon miller

Mar 22 12:31

matey

and mozilla

Mar 22 12:31

matey

SomeH4x0r: hypothetical / satire

Mar 22 12:32

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Mar 22 12:36

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Mar 22 12:40

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You know the Web/WWW is officially dead/dying when the W3C has OUTSOURCED its own Web site to CLOWNFLARE. Incredible.

Mar 22 12:40

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SomeH4x0r

when it happened?

matey

it didnt

matey

next year / never

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Mar 22 13:02

MinceR

schestowitz-TR: :3

Mar 22 13:04

schestowitz

MinceR: many Cheetah of the Day in gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/

Mar 22 13:05

MinceR

i thought that was a snow leopard :>

Mar 22 13:05

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Mar 22 13:06

matey

mincer: forced update

Mar 22 13:06

matey

though the battery doesnt last as long now

Mar 22 13:06

MinceR

Mar 22 13:15

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Mar 22 13:17

psydruid

free software as malware

Mar 22 13:41

psydruid

way to go, free software developers

Mar 22 13:41

psydruid

you are now just as good as your closed source brothers

Mar 22 13:41

matey

imo if its on github its open source, not free software

matey

same for gnu

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psydruid

I wonder if that's the next step

matey

people say theres no difference between open source and free software-- open source says that anyway

psydruid

to poison free software with this crap too

matey

psydruid: it happened with sourceforge

matey

gimp even (but only the windows version)

matey

via an installer sourceforge added

matey

the difference between free software and open source is a really simple one

matey

open source doesnt give a shit about your freedom

psydruid

and I wonder if this is one of Microsoft's goals

matey

maybe

matey

funnily enough im not sure this one has anything to do with microsoft

matey

though... it is the sort of story they love to feed to the tech press

matey

linux malware (actually windows, but malware, so "linux") etc

Mar 22 13:45

psydruid

yeah

Mar 22 13:45

matey

part of gnu wget is developed on github now

Mar 22 13:46

matey

maybe that will become protestware too?

Mar 22 13:46

matey

i suppose the term "dickware" will only get so far

Mar 22 13:47

matey

psydroid: my question is

Mar 22 13:47

matey

how long until mozilla hires this guy?

Mar 22 13:47

matey

i mean theyve been adding malware for a while

matey

heres their man

CrystalMath

psydruid: i'm coming to the conclusion that there's only two kinds of people in the west: ignorant and evil

CrystalMath

and that applies to *everyone* who is pro-western as well

CrystalMath

this isn't Microsoft, it was all Brandon

matey

CrystalMath: no, theres a witch of the west and a witch of the east

psydruid

matey, malicious companies hire malicious actors

matey

but are you a good witch or a bad witch?

psydruid

I wonder who still hires the good guys

matey

theres a telescope with infrared capabilities they launched several years ago

matey

maybe it can find a good company

matey

the good companies get bought by the bad companies

matey

the bad companies also get bought by bad companies

matey

the solution seems to be dont get bought by a company

matey

thats easier said than done

psydruid

CrystalMath, people in the west often don't realize their own hypocrisy

matey

s/in the west//

CrystalMath

i did make a mistake, what i said only applies to people who are pro-western

Mar 22 13:52

CrystalMath

so it's not about people in the west, but people who are pro-western

Mar 22 13:52

matey

/me is space-western

Mar 22 13:52

*psydruid feels like eating western spaghetti straight out of a spaghetti western

Mar 22 13:53

psydruid

CrystalMath, why would people be pro-western?

Mar 22 13:54

psydruid

what's in it for them?

Mar 22 13:55

matey

"sawdust songs of the plaid bartenders, western unions of the country westerns. silver foxes looking for romance in their chainsmoke kansas flashdance ass-pants."-- beck, "hotwax"

Mar 22 13:55

CrystalMath

psydruid: they are either ignorant or evil

Mar 22 13:57

CrystalMath

either they don't understand how evil the west is, or they support it, there is no third possibility, really

Mar 22 13:58

kingoffrance

i actually agree with CrystalMath 100% on this, but for different reasons perhaps.

Mar 22 13:58

matey

putin invades ukraine to stop nato, some arsehole on github attacks russian ips, now the entire west is the problem

Mar 22 14:00

matey

im inclined to agree that the west is a problem, i still dont understand the timeline of events here

Mar 22 14:00

MinceR

the entire universe belongs to putler and anyone who disagrees is the problem

Mar 22 14:01

MinceR

obviously

Mar 22 14:01

matey

no theres sometimes weirder than that, i just dont know what it is

Mar 22 14:01

matey

something ^

Mar 22 14:02

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Mar 22 14:02

matey

funnily enough free software and open source is largely an east vs west thing too

Mar 22 14:03

matey

free software is tupac, open source is biggie

Mar 22 14:03

matey

and just like tupac and biggie, they used to be friends

Mar 22 14:03

matey

at least perens. maybe.

Mar 22 14:04

matey

tldr: bruce perens is biggie

Mar 22 14:04

matey

i must be tired though

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matey

because tupac was west, i had it backwards

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matey

stallman is doing a thing in april on the state of east side software

Mar 22 14:06

matey

maybe the fsf will move to silicon valley

Mar 22 14:06

psydruid

Big FSF

matey

right?

psydruid

yes

psydruid

they should go for it

matey

get those contracts

Mar 22 14:12

matey

make ibm jealous

Mar 22 14:12

psydruid

so IBM will also want to move to the west?

Mar 22 14:13

matey

so ibm will look foolish for withdrawing their money

Mar 22 14:13

matey

big fsf makes all the connections

matey

knows all the right people

matey

big-money non-profit

matey

billion-dollar non-profit!

matey

its not what you do, its who you know

psydruid

I can see this becoming a really successful special operation

matey

its not what you stand for, its what they want

matey

of course the only problem is that the fsf already got rid of their big money (allegedly)

matey

i say it doesnt matter, the money might not be there anymore

matey

but the culture is still fucked

matey

maybe theyll prove me wrong

matey

been waiting for 7 years now

matey

but every few months they say "wait, just-- real soon, right around the corner"

psydruid

7 big years in tibet

matey

and everything will be different-- and then, lucy grabs the football and charlie brown ends up on his arse again

matey

7 years in tibet-- fsf: "ha, want TIBET?"

matey

psydruid: whats bothering you the most? im having trouble getting a read for...

Mar 22 14:18

matey

i mean what it is exactly

Mar 22 14:19

psydruid

matey, nothing bothers me anymore

Mar 22 14:19

matey

oh thats bad

Mar 22 14:20

psydruid

I'm just trying to see where to go from here

Mar 22 14:20

matey

thats good

Mar 22 14:20

matey

this node thing doesnt feel very big to me yet

matey

it still feels like something thats supposed to feel big

psydruid

I can't let the way things are now influence my outlook for the future

psydruid

or I would become eternally depressed

matey

"aint nothin goin on but history"-- basement jaxx, "red alert"

Mar 22 14:22

matey

a little glib, but relevant

Mar 22 14:22

XRevan86

9 years

Mar 22 14:23

matey

<XRevan86> 9 years <- ok, but how do you figure

matey

oh, youve been waiting that long?

XRevan86

matey: That's the verdict on Navalny.

matey

XRevan86

He got 9 more years.

XRevan86

in a strict colony

psydruid

9 years in purgatory

CrystalMath

matey: you're forgetting the part where ukraine kills people in the donbass for 8 years, blocks a river to turn crimea into a desert, etc...

Mar 22 14:29

matey

CrystalMath: no, i dont

Mar 22 14:30

matey

i just dont do the math the way you do

Mar 22 14:31

matey

nor does anyone else in here as far as i can tell

Mar 22 14:31

matey

im pretty sure everyone in here (more or less) is aware of those events

Mar 22 14:31

matey

for example, psydroid posted a video that showed those as part of the explanation for whats going on

Mar 22 14:32

CrystalMath

yeah i just got angry and lashed out

Mar 22 14:32

CrystalMath

but i blame the originators of this, euromaidan, for everything that happened, up to and including the node-ipc malware

Mar 22 14:33

matey

i blame brandon miller for node-ipc

CrystalMath

and "we just wanted to join the EU" doesn't cut it once you realize that the EU as an organization supports these violent coups, and various violent behavior

matey

hes the idiot that thought it was a good idea

matey

once you realize that the EU as an organization <- im no fan of the eu

XRevan86

At least node-ipc reverted the destructive malware and only kept the notification code.

Mar 22 14:35

CrystalMath

matey: they were threatening the UK as well, and caused delays in the brexit procedures

Mar 22 14:36

CrystalMath

but whatever bad thing the EU does, pro-EU people one-up it

Mar 22 14:36

XRevan86

matey: CrystalMath hates the EU, and that somehow means that he supports Russia practically unconditionally.

Mar 22 14:36

matey

i dont like the eu at all

matey

but that doesnt change my dislike-pudding setting

matey

they arent linked

matey

i dont know if there are any "good guys" in this anywhere

CrystalMath

matey: well you live in america, i guess, you're safe from the EU

matey

its like an arsehole sandwich, and everyones in the middle

CrystalMath

i'm really not, i will literally have to run away from here

XRevan86

The Donbass conflict was pretty nasty, I don't know why people like CrystalMath assume that the occupying force there didn't commit any atrocities.

matey

CrystalMath: how is that different from the ukranians that already had to evacuate?

CrystalMath

matey: i pretty much concur that there isn't a good side

matey

I don't know why people like CrystalMath assume that the occupying force there didn't commit any atrocities. <- my assumption is CrystalMath assumes theres must be a "good side"

Mar 22 14:39

XRevan86

In fact, because I know that DPR/LPR does disinformation at the same level (if not worse) as Russia right now, I tend to distrust their claims by default.

Mar 22 14:39

CrystalMath

no, what i think is that the pepole of DPR and LPR are regular people, who were born in ukraine (maybe SSR), lived in ukraine, and then seceded because their rights and lives were severely threatened

XRevan86

I didn't follow that conflict as closely, so I won't make any statements with certainty.

CrystalMath

if you believe that DPR and LPR officials are russians planted there by Putin, then i understand your view, but i think that's completely wrong

matey

CrystalMath: im not sure youve managed to separate your politics from their reality

matey

which is fine as long as it doesnt lead to otherwise inexplicable conclusions.

Mar 22 14:41

CrystalMath

i believe "their reality" as absolutely true, in part thanks to various independent journalists who have been there

Mar 22 14:41

XRevan86

I know for sure that Russia (Surkov specifically) is directly involved in decision making in DPR.

Mar 22 14:42

XRevan86

So irrespectively of whether Russians or Ukrainians, there was planting involved

Mar 22 14:42

matey

"irrespectively of whether Russians or Ukrainians" sums up my feelings about everything so far

Mar 22 14:43

XRevan86

"because their rights and lives were severely threatened" <- The word is "FUD".

Mar 22 14:44

CrystalMath

matey: but yes i understand that me having to run away from the incoming threat of the EU is pretty much the same as ukrainians who are now running from russia, or the people from the donbass that ran away from ukraine into russia

Mar 22 14:45

matey

CrystalMath: i see a couple megacorporations fighting over the same resource, and no "good side"

matey

dpr lpr ukr <- pawns in this game

CrystalMath

matey: it's just that, you know, the EU side is the one that initiated the problem

matey

less sure about ukr... the shoe fits, sort of

CrystalMath

it's EU expansionism that started it, not russia

matey

russia wasnt expanding?

CrystalMath

of course not

matey

crimea just "drifted" that way?

CrystalMath

crimea left ukraine after euromaidan

CrystalMath

euromaidan was 2013

matey

i think the thing is

CrystalMath

euromaidan came first, don't forget that

matey

your timeline starts in the middle of something even bigger

CrystalMath

crimea would still be in ukraine if Yanukovich remained president

matey

which challenges the entire premise of your argument

matey

or maybe it doesnt, but so far thats how it seems

CrystalMath

but the ukraine's dialogs with the EU would be over and out; ukraine would probably have lots of trade deals with russia and belarus, etc... it would be lost to the west

CrystalMath

matey: okay, explain it to me then, if it wasn't the EU that started it, who did and how?

Mar 22 14:49

CrystalMath

what happened before 2013?

Mar 22 14:49

matey

CrystalMath: lets start with the fact that you underestimate how much i dislike the the eu

Mar 22 14:49

matey

but i think youre making too much of this about the eu when its more about nato

matey

but you really want it to be about the eu

matey

and it sort of is

matey

maybe less than you make it out to be

matey

obviously the eu is a big player here, but thats not your argument

XRevan86

Should I find footage of Putin himself saying that Russia had troops in Crimea?

matey

your argument is they STARTED it

matey

that has to be an oversimplification

XRevan86

Crimea "left Ukraine" by use of Russian military overtaking Crimean administration.

matey

if everything hinges on who started it, and even that is an oversimplification, i cant guess how the logic that issues from there is going to be very useful

matey

its going to be very one-sided

matey

and here we are

CrystalMath

matey: i am aware that the US, particularly under democrats, is also on this new world order route

CrystalMath

NATO is just the US and most of the EU

matey

i literally dislike everyone involved-- except ukraine, because i dont HAVE to

matey

theyre the ones being invaded-- with or without good reason--

activelow

question is what Ukraine/USA/NATO did

CrystalMath

there is no good reason to be invaded

matey

and i dislike both sides that want to play "host" to them

XRevan86

https://youtu.be/3w4LnR3bcQQ maybe CrystalMath knows enough Russian to understand this

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CrystalMath

but i don't understand how you can excuse them for what they did in donbass

activelow

with crimea, and Ukraine joining NATO/EU/USA, russian military had lost access to their crimea fleet

activelow

and harbors

matey

<CrystalMath> but i don't understand how you can excuse them <- ah, well then

XRevan86

"but i don't understand how you can excuse them for what they did in donbass" <- This is a perfect statement.

matey

maybe its because its some invention of yours, based on "either x or you excuse them" or some nonsense like that.

matey

i dont recall excusing anyone

activelow

and there is rarely any report about Ukraine in possession of ballistic missiles, if any

XRevan86

CrystalMath: But I don't understand how you can excuse DPR/Russia for what they did in Donbass

CrystalMath

XRevan86: what did they do, except want to be free?

activelow

Selensky himself argued the Budapest Memorandum was void...; which prohibited the possession of particular weapons in return for security guarantees

MinceR

vladolf has no business being in donbass, or crimea anyway

matey

oh hell, what does ANYONE do, except want to be free?

MinceR

then again, he has no right to rule russia either

matey

every time someone invades someone else its about freedom

MinceR

putler violated the Budapest Memorandum before Zelenskyy came to power

MinceR

how would it not be void?

CrystalMath

MinceR: so you're a democrat, but you insist that the will of the people is as you say, and not as it is in reality

XRevan86

CrystalMath: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2016/03/07/locked-up-in-the-donbas literallly picked an article at random

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MinceR

CrystalMath: right, because "the people" consists solely of putler?

matey

MinceR: so you're a democrat <- ben shapiro lives

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matey: i meant that in the sense of, someone who believes in democracy, not a US democrat

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CrystalMath

i know MinceR is hungarian

matey

i withdraw my protest

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XRevan86

MinceR: Only Russia is allowed to violate international law.

MinceR

of course

CrystalMath

XRevan86: and the US

MinceR

i forgot

CrystalMath

libya, syria, afghanistan, ... if we're gonna talk about international law

CrystalMath

iraq...

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CrystalMath

yugoslavia

MinceR

eastern bloc

MinceR

georgia

XRevan86

MinceR: Russia can violate its own written agreement but if the other side even mentions anything about it, it's a "wait, that's illegal!"

MinceR

sounds like it

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matey

i figure there are roughly 300 countries that know the usa is a giant hypocritical arsehole about practically everything in the middle east

MinceR

countries can know things?

activelow

pipelines and oil/gas business; with USA/NATO involved where they didn't belong

matey

including the many that followed them there and others who choose not to mention it

CrystalMath

matey: ultimately, the my opinion and MinceR's opinion is fear-based

activelow

meanwhile prices for Oil/Gas in USA are less than 50% of Germany/EU; yet it wasn't enough it seems

CrystalMath

MinceR fears russia so he speaks for the US side

CrystalMath

i fear the EU so i speak for the russian side

CrystalMath

it's not that i don't see that russia didn't do everything great

matey

CrystalMath: i honestly think you infantilise everyone who doesnt see politics your way

MinceR

i speak for whichever side is willing to let people live in more freedom

MinceR

it's as simple as that

CrystalMath

MinceR: sure

*XRevan86 speaks the truth.

MinceR

CrystalMath is incapable of comprehending the difference between being annexed into a dictatorship and voluntarily, democratically joining an organization

XRevan86

Ain't I the worst?

CrystalMath

for me, freedom is eating meat and driving gas-powered cars

MinceR

yeah

MinceR

truth is the least convenient

MinceR

i tend to eat meat and i drive a gas-powered car

activelow

it was Ukraine/Selensky who initiated association talks with EU (which isn't USA whom Selensky asked to provide weapons, Burisma-Biddler);

CrystalMath

XRevan86: unfortunately, i don't really understand what Putin says in the video, i could read what was written though, somewhat

matey

<CrystalMath> for me, freedom is eating meat and driving gas-powered cars <- and the fact that people eat meat and

matey

that would make the world more free than it really is

matey

it sets a pretty low bar really

MinceR

with humanity, expect the bar to be low, always

CrystalMath

matey: there's more but i wanted to highlight those things

CrystalMath

the things i am scared of losing

CrystalMath

and the threat is the EU

matey

im pretty sure you can eat meat in most countries

CrystalMath

matey: also, to not be vaccinated

CrystalMath

then again russia isn't so great on that one, either

MinceR

CrystalMath: so, have you not received the BCG vaccine yet?

matey

im against mandatory vaccinations on principle, but

matey

our definition of mandatory probably differs a lot

MinceR

or the DTP one?

matey

if a vaccination is required to travel to other countries...

CrystalMath

MinceR: i only demand the right to not be vaccinated, but i'm glad that i was able to get vaccines that are useful

matey

thats pretty much... i mean thats pretty much how it is in a sane world

MinceR

lol

MinceR

that's quite the mental gymnastics

CrystalMath

the vaccines that i consider useless/harmful are mainly ones that are against the flu

MinceR

so "the right not to be vaccinated" only applies to vaccines you haven't received yet

CrystalMath

i may also consider covid as those as well, but i'm not as certain about it

MinceR

SARS-CoV-2 is not an influenzavirus

CrystalMath

i am absolutely against flu vaccination

matey

basically if youre willing to stay where you are, i dont think people should force you to be vaccinated

matey

but if youre going to travel to other countries, they probably have a right to require it.

CrystalMath

matey: well, then russia needs to do a special operation before the EU arrives and imports austria's plans here

XRevan86

MinceR: I think CrystalMath's immune system violates his rights.

MinceR

sounds like it

CrystalMath

matey: otherwise i will have to run somehow

CrystalMath

somewhere

MinceR

CrystalMath: do you want to die as a victim to a "special military operation"?

Mar 22 15:06

XRevan86

MinceR: Stopping the war violates CrystalMath's rights of dying from a Putin's bomb.

Mar 22 15:07

CrystalMath

MinceR: of course not, but staying put and not getting vaccinated will not be possible unless Putin does some magic

Mar 22 15:07

MinceR

lol

Mar 22 15:07

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Mar 22 15:08

CrystalMath

meanwhile, to MinceR, burning people alive in a bulding is a path to "voluntarily, democratically joining an organization"

Mar 22 15:10

MinceR

is that what putler does to people in ukraine now?

Mar 22 15:10

CrystalMath

MinceR: this is what euromaidan did, XRevan86 confirmed it

MinceR

i've heard of cluster bombing residential buildings and shelling buildings children are taking shelter in

MinceR

i guess it's not much of a stretch

CrystalMath

MinceR: ukraine did that on donetsk recently

XRevan86

CrystalMath compares an event that involved militant people and unfortunate circumstances, to shelling civilians en masse.

MinceR

also, i'm pretty sure the EU doesn't let anyone join without an actual, real referendum

matey

thats what one too many sweeping generalisations will do, unfortunately

MinceR

(not the bullshit vladolf and his fans pretend are referenda)

XRevan86

"ukraine did that on donetsk recently" <- Not this again.

MinceR

ah yes, those poor terrorussian soldiers in donetsk

activelow

Ukraine denied almost all "humanitarian corridors" for evakuation for weeks

XRevan86

MinceR: No, it's not that. I'll find you a link.

MinceR

iirc terrorussians have a habit of shooting people leaving via "humanitarian corridors"

matey

am i cynical for thinking this is more about the vax than about which side did what?

MinceR

they even did that in crimea, in 2014

kingoffrance

i cannot prove it but i swear my sound card driver on an ancient knoppix sometimes slightly, shortly, messes up the pitch...reminds me of vinyl records...i used to need a winamp plugin to simulate that :D

matey

and is there a major difference between the vax policy of pudding and the one of the eu?

MinceR

matey: seems like it's about worshipping everything that is evil and authoritarian

MinceR

matey: doesn't matter what vladolf or Cheeto Hitler or winnie the pooh or orban say, it must be followed uncritically

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Mar 22 15:14

matey

mincer: now youre being as obtuse as CrystalMath: and the only mitigation is youre probably better informed

Mar 22 15:14

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Mar 22 15:14

matey

that was in reponse to the line before the funny one

XRevan86

MinceR: https://youtu.be/XkEfWsBiQd8

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matey

<MinceR> matey: doesn't matter what vladolf or Cheeto Hitler or winnie the pooh or orban say, <- this is the funny one

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CrystalMath

also the people who were burned in odessa were not all militants, that's nonsense, there were women and children there

XRevan86

MinceR: I'm trying to find this information in English now.

Mar 22 15:16

matey

matey: seems like it's about worshipping everything that is evil and authoritarian <- this is obtuse (and also funny)

Mar 22 15:16

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matey

what i see in crystalmaths logic, over and over

activelow

i don't know yet exactly why shortly after Olympic games the intervention was started, according to reports Putin intended to do it before Olympic games in China, yet what asked to wait by China

CrystalMath

XRevan86: that's insane and insulting propaganda; russia firing a ukrainian cluster bomb at their own people in their own city

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matey

is treating some things as absolutes and others as relative

XRevan86

CrystalMath: https://nitter.eu/CITeam_en/status/1500475853490343936

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XRevan86

And this is specially for you.

matey

and theres simply no rhyme or reason which gets treated as which-- its mix and match

MinceR

"What does the future of gaming look like?" -- rootkits, DRM, locked down appliances marketed as "computers"

activelow

anyway, before the olympic games already, RT satellite TV broadcasting in EU was forbidden, by EU... remember this?

matey

this you NEVER EVER DO but THIS is ok because extenuating circumstances, etc

matey

which is which? flip a coin

CrystalMath

XRevan86: the thing you sent is 100% disinformation

matey

so im trying to follow all of it, but this is the inconsistency that makes it comical

activelow

the conflict wasn't settled since 2014, and suddenly Putin/Russia seemed to hurry (close to approaching the Northstream2 put into operation)

matey

and im only trying to understand it out of fairness

MinceR

allegedly putler is ill and wanted to do something big before dying

MinceR

i guess he managed it after all

MinceR

russia will probably not survive this war

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MinceR

at the very least, he's getting more countries near russia to join the nato

matey

MinceR: hitler and churchill banked on similar odds

matey

everyone was wrong

matey

im not saying russian will win either

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matey

but dont underestimate them

XRevan86

CrystalMath: mkay

MinceR

i didn't

activelow

it was Ukraine/Poland/USA-minions who seeked to subvert the northstream project with every opportunity, harming both EU/Germany *and* Russia

MinceR

so far they've been fighting a war that was supposed to last 1..3 days for 3 months

MinceR

and pretty much everyone hates them now

XRevan86

Um, pretty sure I'm in this hell for one month.

XRevan86

Not three months.

matey

nobody liked iraq either, and its still there

CrystalMath

MinceR: NATO was also set to defeat yugoslavia in 3 days

CrystalMath

nope, took 78

CrystalMath

and don't forget, NATO was targetting civilian infrastructure all the time

activelow

11billion wasted with some pipeline project and energy security at stake, this was too much for germany too, besides Russia

CrystalMath

struck city centers, bridges, water supplies to hospitals

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CrystalMath

hospitals themselves...

MinceR

let me guess, nuclear power plants are not "civilian infrastructure"

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XRevan86

CrystalMath: Even if ye ignore that, DPR does use Tochka-U's.

CrystalMath

XRevan86: and they shot at themselves?

MinceR

the theater children were hiding in was also "military infrastructure"

activelow

hidden weapons stockpiles

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Is a fsck-up that big of a stretch?

MinceR

"DPR" are terrorussian invaders, it isn't exactly a stretch for them to attack the local population

CrystalMath

XRevan86: considering i know that ukrainians are constantly shelling Gorlovka

CrystalMath

it's more likely that ukrainians took a shot at Donetsk, to punish its RUSSIAN population for not wanting to become ukrainian

activelow

the majority of the population of western-ukraine didn't oppose Russia; since their industry suffered after 1990 and the wealthy Kiev region didn't bother too much about it

activelow

the majority of the population of *eastern-ukraine didn't oppose Russia; since their industry suffered after 1990 and the wealthy Kiev region didn't bother too much about it

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MinceR

repeat it until it becomes true

matey

ukrainse, for every arsehole move ive heard of them making... still reminds me a little too much of palestine in all this

CrystalMath

XRevan86: i looked through 2010/2011 Donetsk on google street view, i didn't see one word in ukrainian, all the ads, all the signs, everything was 100% russian

matey

either because theyre being painted that way, or they are that way

XRevan86

CrystalMath: https://ankornews.com/odessa-russian-speaking-yes-but-today-very-ukrainian/

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CrystalMath

XRevan86: odessa is far to the west

XRevan86

Not what I was looking for, but it will do.

CrystalMath

i looked at Donetsk

techrights-news

Apple: shithole pretending to be Disneyland. People pay away all of their shit, usually to be treated like shit.

matey

/topic try not to mention the war

MinceR

don't worry, they're being motivated strongly by putler to adopt a ukrainian identity if they haven't done so before :>

matey

i mentioned it once but i think i got away with it

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Ye know what's strange? Because Russia is invading through the east and north, a very prominent language that is used to curse the Russian invaders is Russian.

MinceR

matey: same as the policy of terrorussia? :>

matey

mincer: same as the episode of fawlty towers

XRevan86

MinceR: Indeed.

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CrystalMath

matey: i remember that one

matey

i dont know how people expect this to not be discussed

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matey

whats it got to do with tech-- well... it effects everyone where in one way or another

matey

here

MinceR

especially with putler's allies trying to wage information war on us

matey

right

CrystalMath

XRevan86: out of linguistic curiosity, what word is it?

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Huh?

matey

so any side channel is used for communication

MinceR

probably not a single word

Mar 22 15:30

CrystalMath

XRevan86: oh, oops, i misread

Mar 22 15:30

XRevan86

For regional reasons the people that suffered from the invasion the most are Russian-speaking.

MinceR

also because vladolf doesn't care

XRevan86

That's implied.

MinceR

and this doesn't even include the people living in russia that were tortured and imprisoned

MinceR

for taking an anti-war stance

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Mar 22 15:35

CrystalMath

i cannot really continue to presume that you two are just ignorant, i think you know what the new world order agenda is, and you welcome it, but for me it's a fate worse than death

Mar 22 15:35

CrystalMath

you two = XRevan86 and MinceR

Mar 22 15:36

XRevan86

I have a bias towards humanity and life, what can I say.

Mar 22 15:36

MinceR

i have a bias toward freedom

MinceR

which makes me an enemy to the likes of putler and orban

CrystalMath

MinceR: i wrote the same thing and almost sent it :P

MinceR

automatically

matey

<CrystalMath> i cannot really continue to presume that you two are just ignorant, i think you know what the new world order agenda is, and you welcome it <- politics > reality

XRevan86

politics >>>>>>>> reality

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XRevan86

When a person loses their anchor to reality, they also lose their anchor to sanity.

Mar 22 15:38

CrystalMath

MinceR: there's more freedom in hungary than in australia now

Mar 22 15:38

CrystalMath

without Putin, there would be no Orban, but without Orban this would not be the case anymore

XRevan86

I have no freedom, I violate the rules even just by speaking.

MinceR

CrystalMath: you have no idea what's going on in hungary

matey

i dont think CrystalMath is a russian agent, whats funny is that it would be hard to tell the difference

techrights-news

Snake oil. You cannot do this. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deleting-google-search-data-android/

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MinceR

but i doubt you'd care

MinceR

for example, fideath took over pretty much all the media, but hey, they all regurgitate vladolf's propaganda

XRevan86

matey: He is not, I know him for long enough to tell.

matey

and all this in the name of freedom

CrystalMath

MinceR: who cares about the media, i'm already used to the media being hijacked

matey

XRevan86: i know

CrystalMath

it's been that way for decades

matey

and really my point rests on him not being

CrystalMath

nobody sane cares about or listens to the media

MinceR

people were harassed by police forces for saying negative things about orban on faecesbook

CrystalMath

except techrights :)

XRevan86

matey: He is not insane like аctivelow but he firmly believes that freedom lies with the hypocrites.

CrystalMath

to clarify, techrights is an exception to the media being bad

XRevan86

No matter the scale, can be Andrew Lee, can be Vladimir Putin.

matey

matey: He is not insane like аctivelow but he firmly believes that freedom lies with the hypocrites. <- thats the result, but

MinceR

hungary hasn't had a free or fair election in the last 11 years

matey

i think really that he just holds some things so completely sacred that

CrystalMath

MinceR: democracy ain't that great, the result matters, not whether things are democratic or not IMO

MinceR

i guess the moment putler takes a stance on software, CrystalMath will hate TR as well

matey

it gets "stuck" and theres no talking him out of it

MinceR

CrystalMath: it indeed ain't that great. but it sure beats autocracy in any form.

matey

even when you show him that his own priniciples demand it

CrystalMath

MinceR: not if the autocrat is adamant about you having freedom

MinceR

lol

matey

he was right the first time, because it was sacred then

MinceR

you should look up what autocracy means

XRevan86

matey: His idea of freedom is perveted.

CrystalMath

again, look at the results

MinceR

i am

MinceR

the results are horrible

matey

its not about admitting he was wrong-- he could do that easily enough

XRevan86

matey: To him it's more important to have the freedom to die from a virus than freedom of speech, freedom of consciousness, freedom to live.

MinceR

most of the major businesses have been taken over by orban's friends and strawmen

matey

but admitting hes mistaken would be abandoning all thats sacred

matey

and it creates this amazing catch 22

MinceR

they "regulated" some markets in such a way as to avoid them having to compete with people who know what they're doing

MinceR

universities lost their independence

CrystalMath

XRevan86: there is no "freedom to live" and there never was, life is a complex state that the universe will necessarily force to an end regardless of activity

matey

where you have to be wrong because ITS BETTER TO BE WRONG than DO WRONG

matey

which makes no sense at all, but for a VERY GOOD reason

MinceR

our economy is in ruins

MinceR

but orban's friends are OK because they steal almost all the handouts from the EU

matey

XRevan86 hes wrong for all the RIGHT REASONS, and thats ALL that matters

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Apple synonymous with crimes against humanity (ignore their marketing BS), so this is expected https://citizenlab.ca/2022/03/區別镌刻-蘋果不再在台灣作針對政治內容的審查/

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matey

even if its a farce, its still for the right reasons. even if logic throws up its hands and says "well fuck everyting"

matey

its the PRINCIPLE of the thing

XRevan86

CrystalMath: "freedom to live" means "murder is bad"

matey

yes hes wrong-- but hes wrong ON PRINCIPLE!

matey

and that makes it right

CrystalMath

XRevan86: oh, hmm, then i misunderstood

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CrystalMath

XRevan86: so let's say "freedom from interference regarding one's life"

XRevan86

CrystalMath: What did ye think it means? A law of physics?

CrystalMath

human interference

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XRevan86

CrystalMath: "freedom from being forced by other people to die"

CrystalMath

right, then we agree entirely, i think

CrystalMath

(but, not wearing a mask for example, and infecting someone with covid is not murder IMO, nor attempted murder)

MinceR

i think that implies the freedom from being poisoned for having a different opinion

matey

what i like about CrystalMath is hes entirely driven by a firm sense of right and wrong, and he never wavers from it

CrystalMath

(as long as the virus transfer was not deliberate)

schestowitz-TR

[15:47] <XRevan86> CrystalMath: "freedom from being forced by other people to die" << XRevan86 we're back to 2020

schestowitz-TR

when you told him that

CrystalMath

schestowitz-TR: oh, we clarified this already?

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schestowitz-TR

UK has become highly infected and we cannot guarantee it can be avoided anymore, though we still try. Thanks, Borisnaro.

CrystalMath

i will explain why i misunderstand things sometimes: i like to read into words what i think the other person is trying to say, and usually it's something bad that i imagine

schestowitz-TR

CrystalMath: when it broke out in Europe you said "freedom"

schestowitz-TR

and XRevan86 said he wants the freedom to NOT get this very nasty virus

schestowitz-TR

it's eating away at the health of my colleagues

schestowitz-TR

they get reinfected

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CrystalMath

correct, and that's why when i read XRevan86's words, i imagined this particular case which is a point of disagreement (IMO people don't have a right to force everyone to live by their rules to avoid a natural virus)

Mar 22 15:51

schestowitz-TR

define "natural virus"

CrystalMath

or at a very least, we should demand our own separate space where we can live with all the natural viruses freely

schestowitz-TR

society does not work like this

schestowitz-TR

collectivism

XRevan86

schestowitz: "define "natural virus"" <- Putin

CrystalMath

schestowitz-TR: collectivism is evil, and i oppose it with every fiber of my being

schestowitz-TR

you sound like extreme libertarians who pretend they live on their own in the woods...

schestowitz-TR

...until they need medicine and stuff

MinceR

well, if humanity stops failing seriously hard, someday we might find another habitable planet

XRevan86

Good thing that when Putin appeals to collectivism he's just being a hypocrite and a populist.

schestowitz-TR

XRevan86: you have had a Donald Trump for 2 decades

MinceR

and then we can have a planet for the authoritarian nurgleites

schestowitz-TR

the US is at risk of getting its own Putin back

MinceR

unfortunately, we're unlikely to survive that long with so many authoritarians in the human population

XRevan86

schestowitz: What I don't like about this analogy is that Trump is genuinely stupid.

CrystalMath

schestowitz-TR: libertarians just want to minimize collectivism

schestowitz-TR

not THAT stupid

CrystalMath

and yes i consdier myself a libertarian

Mar 22 15:55

CrystalMath

*consider

Mar 22 15:55

schestowitz-TR

well he thought Russia and Finland are the same country

Mar 22 15:55

schestowitz-TR

CrystalMath: did you build your own home?

schestowitz-TR

also, are you wearing garments made of materials you collected?

CrystalMath

everything i have was sold to me voluntarily, and i bought it voluntarily, that's what matters

matey

<CrystalMath> or at a very least, we should demand our own separate space where we can live with all the natural viruses freely <- like a safespace

XRevan86

CrystalMath: I wish someone would free you from the shackles of owning a toilet.

MinceR

"libertarian", just like "liberal", "capitalism", "socialism" and "communism", is a word that has been stripped of all meaning already

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Ye won't believe the amount of natural illnesses that thing protects from.

matey

all words are stripped of meaning if you ignore the meaning

MinceR

matey: more of an unsafespace

matey

matey: more of an unsafespace <- like lieplanet

XRevan86

The medieval towns that were drowning in sewage, now that was true freedom.

matey

is an unsafespace for rms (or rational arguments)

Mar 22 15:58

XRevan86

CrystalMath should have the freedom to swim to drink water contaminated with feces.

Mar 22 15:58

XRevan86

s/to swim //

Mar 22 15:58

XRevan86

But nooo, we just had to force sewers onto everyone, disgusting.

CrystalMath

they're not forced actually

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matey

XRevan86: not in my backyard!

XRevan86

It's not even legal to throw poop out of the window anymore.

CrystalMath

XRevan86: there are still places without sewage systems

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Ye live in a city with the sewers, ye are forced to live in the world that has sewers.

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Thank their leaders then, not Putin.

CrystalMath

that has sewers, yes; i mean i don't mind that; i don't have to use them though

CrystalMath

i do use them

CrystalMath

but i'm not forced

XRevan86

CrystalMath: The sewers eradicated natural bacteria.

MinceR

ooh, now CrystalMath gets all fancy, even using the sewer system

XRevan86

Ye don't have the freedom to get infected with them anymore.

CrystalMath

tbh the freedom of be infected with a particular thing doesn't exist, it makes no more sense than other freedoms defined as "freedom to X" rather than "freedom from X"

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Really!?

matey

<XRevan86> CrystalMath: The sewers eradicated natural bacteria. <- rewind to a year or two ago, and CrystalMath would have called that murder

XRevan86

Ye don't flipping say!

CrystalMath

XRevan86: well if i had said it before, i was probably mocking some of your "freedom to X"

CrystalMath

like "freedom to not get infected" - this does not exist either

CrystalMath

you have the freedom to wear a mask you own, but that does not guarantee anything really, the universe can still find a way

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CrystalMath

ultimately, the universe always finds a way to end every life

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Why is vaccination bad then?

MinceR

death, uh, finds a way

kingoffrance

that was saturn's moon sickle :)

kingoffrance

waxes and wanes :)

CrystalMath

XRevan86: it's not

XRevan86

It's not changing the laws of the universe, if that's not obvious.

CrystalMath

XRevan86: rather, it should not be forced

CrystalMath

simply because nothing should ever be forced

MinceR

except, apparently, certain things in ukraine

matey

<XRevan86> CrystalMath: Why is vaccination bad then? <- fatalism is a reasonable stance for literally everything EXCEPT human interference wth freedom

matey

which MUST be stopped EVEN if it kills us all

MinceR

and in terrorussia, and in red china, and in north korea

MinceR

a lot of things should be forced, apparently

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CrystalMath

matey: right, i'm fine with the universe torturing me all it likes, but by golly, other humans will not if i have anything to say about it

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XRevan86

CrystalMath: I heard drivers are forced to follow some stupid rules on the road.

MinceR

other humans are parts of the universe

matey

CrystalMath: so literally everything from asteroids to bacteria have more rights than humans

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Those are public roads, they own their automobiles. Why the heck they are forced to do something?

matey

they can go about their business, humans can pound sand

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CrystalMath

XRevan86: okay, i mean, it's not their road; if we had private roads we could decentralize road rules i guess; it could happen, or it could not... it should be understandable either way though

Mar 22 16:06

MinceR

we could switch from driving on the right to driving on the left and back every kilometer

MinceR

it would be such fun

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Sucks that there isn't unlimited space for roads.

matey

why should it be understandable?

matey

i shouldnt have other peoples lack of understanding imposed on me, on MY property

MinceR

well, if the human population was _drastically_ reduced, every surviving human could have their own road network

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MinceR

with their own rules, or lack thereof

matey

if they dont understand that the speed limit is c/x#pi^2 thats their problem

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CrystalMath

matey: public roads aren't just your property, so this is why it can be understood

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Putin turns 70 this year. People his age do not genuinely care about the future of the country in a competitive world. https://www.france24.com/fr/info-en-continu/20220318-isoler-la-russie-en-ligne-des-sanctions-contre-productives

matey

im talking about private roads with decentralised road rules

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CrystalMath

matey: okay, then each road segment owner would have their own rules

matey

why should we have to dumb the rules down for the benefit of others?

matey

matey: okay, then each road segment owner would have their own rules <- right!

CrystalMath

it would be interesting

matey

because otherwise its not ownership

matey

and anything thats not owned is stolen

MinceR

people are stolen?

CrystalMath

but it's not as important as, you know, more basic personal liberties

matey

mincer: people own themselves

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MinceR

and impose arbitrary rules on themselves to maintain that ownership?

matey

but anything else either belongs to its owner, or the sole other option is its being stolen

matey

literally everything is property

matey

if its not property, its theft

MinceR

most information is not property

matey

information is different because it goes in your head

matey

and your head is YOUR property

MinceR

it goes in many places

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matey

so no one can tell you what to do with it

CrystalMath

i should mention, i take a bit of a turn from modern libertarianism in that i don't think information can be owned

CrystalMath

so i don't really believe in trademarks or patents at all

CrystalMath

copyrights can only work by an NDA contract

CrystalMath

if something is public, it shouldn't be copyrighted either

matey

whats funny crystalmath

matey

is that every time you make a reasonable exception

matey

you prove why reasonable exceptions should exist

matey

then when anyone else argues for reasonable exceptions

matey

you say NO! thats against all good principles!

matey

reasonable exceptions ARE a good principle

CrystalMath

well no, you see

matey

oh my god!

MinceR

yes?

matey

you are priceless.

CrystalMath

CrystalMath

the raw principle does not support it, in my opinion

MinceR

that's not libertarianism

MinceR

that's corporatism being sold as "libertarian"

kingoffrance

eh, its like the money. property went abstract at some point

CrystalMath

matey: like if you look at the inventor of anarcho-capitalism, Rothbard, he did not believe in trademarks or patents, and he also said copyright can only work by contracts that prevent leaking entirely

matey

i wouldnt miss copyright at all if it disappeared forever

matey

its about as useful as a buggy whip to an astronaut

CrystalMath

matey: if you look at the raw core of the idea, well, the raw core is non-violence

MinceR

it's very useful to the likes of MICROS~1, though

CrystalMath

matey: what is a patent? you build something yourself, and you sell it, and then someone beats you up because someone already invented that before but not TOO long before

matey

CrystalMath: explain the nap to a former libertarian, if you will

matey

its pretty complicated, i might have missed something

https://everything2.com/title/NON-VIOLENCE%2521+NON-VIOLENCE%2521+NON-VIOLENCE%2521+Non-violence+makes+you+strong%2521+Strength+crushes+enemies%2521+NON-VIOLENCE%2521

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NON-VIOLENCE! NON-VIOLENCE! NON-VIOLENCE! Non-violence makes you strong! Strength crushes enemies! NON-VIOLENCE! - Everything2.com

matey

great

*MinceR takes a nap

CrystalMath

matey: this isn't an exception... it's just basic non-violence to say that patents are unfair

CrystalMath

you can't justify mandatory vaccines in any way

CrystalMath

it's impossible, because it's pure violence

matey

<CrystalMath> you can't justify mandatory vaccines in any way <- according to some rule that must justify itself too

matey

its pure violence to save lives.

matey

its non-violence to let them die

MinceR

so, how have you justified BCG and DTP?

matey

CrystalMath: so if youre lying unconscious, taking you to the hospital is kidnapping

CrystalMath

matey: maybe, that's why there are DNR forms i guess

matey

lets say theres no dnr form

CrystalMath

MinceR: i think those diseases are nasty

MinceR

nastiness overrides your principles?

CrystalMath

MinceR: well it shouldn't be forced, but when i took it it wasn't

CrystalMath

i know people who did not, and still have not

MinceR

uh huh

CrystalMath

maybe it was in the law but it was not enforced, people refused all the time and there were no consequences, and there still aren't for those people as far as i can see

Mar 22 16:19

CrystalMath

and, i think maybe the temptation to reject something you would otherwise take just because it's forced is, well, not smart :P

Mar 22 16:20

MinceR

what happened to the freedom to coexist with _nasty_ pathogens?

Mar 22 16:20

CrystalMath

that freedom exists, as long as nasty pathogens exist

CrystalMath

but you can't stop others from getting vaccinated if they want to

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MinceR

and you can't stop others from infecting you if they want to?

matey

crystalmath: whats the libertarian position on a factory that makes the air in a town unsuitable for human life?

matey

what recourse do the residents have other than moving?

CrystalMath

matey: you should be able to sue, i guess?

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matey

interesting

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CrystalMath

MinceR: you should be able to sue them if they infect you with something on purpose, if you can prove it was deliberate

matey

but if its pathogens and not pollutants... no recourse?

MinceR

what if you die from it before you can sue them?

matey

or can we sue you for spreading pathogens?

CrystalMath

matey: umm, creating a biolab and producing harmful pathogens is quite monstrous

matey

what if youre a walking biolab?

MinceR

also, what sort of punishment will dissuade nurgleites from deliberately infecting people?

matey

hypothetically speaking

CrystalMath

matey: you cannot be a walking biolab with current technology

matey

seems like you could be for many many centuries already

MinceR

is being deliberately host to a pathogen and letting it mutate in you to become more harmful also monstrous?

matey

MinceR: of course not, thats just life!

CrystalMath

matey: a virus can infect you, this is fair since no human did it on purpose

MinceR

i guess human extinction is also just life

CrystalMath

a virus can mutate, this is also fair

MinceR

as is all life being terminated on earth by the sun

CrystalMath

MinceR: exactly, all fair

MinceR

MinceR

maybe humans can just hurry up and die out already?

CrystalMath

human extinction is also expected to occur, since all species go extinct

matey

/me loves debating ethics with vizzini from the princess bride

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CrystalMath

that's just like saying, "everyone on this channel will die some day"

CrystalMath

it's a fact

MinceR

it is very likely, but not a fact

CrystalMath

it is actually a fact

MinceR

it is not

MinceR

if this reality is in fact a simulation, it could be suspended without anyone in it dying

CrystalMath

there is perhaps a very slim chance, insignificant almost, that some people here will live for billions of years

CrystalMath

but not forever, forever does not exist

matey

this is new

MinceR

if humanity could overcome its own demons, humans could also transcend and become immortal

matey

so when does the universe cease to exist then?

CrystalMath

matey: i forgot the exact estimates, there's also still two theories

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MinceR

i thought there were many theories

MinceR

and if you find a way to move from a dying universe to a new one (possibly one you create yourself), the question becomes a lot more complicated

CrystalMath

matey: we're not sure what happens first, and also there's the whole thing with quantum vacuum decay possibly wiping out random parts of the universe with no warning

CrystalMath

at some point, one of these will *definitely* get everyone here, no matter how long it takes

techrights-news

ICBM now promotes buzzwords like "digital transformation (DX)" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/automation-digital-transformation-3-ways-they-go-together when Intel attacked software freedom it used another "DX" http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks

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matey

CrystalMath: how does the aether fit into this?

CrystalMath

but most likely, 99.99...9999% likely, it will just be a normal biological death for everyone here

CrystalMath

what aether?

matey

the aether that scientists were confident existed at one point

CrystalMath

yeah, that was bullcrap

kingoffrance

its ethernet now

kingoffrance

CrystalMath

like we were certain that there's some way the universe could restart

CrystalMath

but there is not

techrights-news

This can be leveraged by Russia to spy on dissidents https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-russia-meta-ban

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matey

but this is not?

matey

because we definitely got it right this time?

CrystalMath

matey: i don't think so

MinceR

there's also ether

CrystalMath

it's not that we got it right

techrights-news

"Access Now, outraged by today’s announcement that the Myanmar Investment Commission has approved the sale of Telenor Myanmar, is calling for international actors to implement sanctions and stop the company’s irresponsible disposal of its Myanmar operations to a company" https://www.accessnow.org/update-internet-access-censorship-myanmar/

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CrystalMath

matey: but that this is something that is the default

matey

oh well

matey

if its the default...

CrystalMath

there was a theory by which the universe could continue indefinitely but it has been disproven

matey

its cool that now we know the factory settings of the universe

CrystalMath

well no, it's just that, the fate of the universe is kind of sealed, pretty much

techrights-news

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matey

so basically, the universe doesnt exist by default

matey

but it does by fluke

CrystalMath

yes

CrystalMath

just like life

matey

but that fluke can happen only once

CrystalMath

well no

CrystalMath

you see the fluke can happen again

XRevan86

"but that fluke can happen only once" <- [citation needed]

matey

its not my argument, XRevan86

CrystalMath

not my argument either

matey

okay

matey

but when you said "disproven"

matey

and that it had happened

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CrystalMath

yeah, this universe will not survive indefinitely

matey

but it was disproven that it could happen again

CrystalMath

but a new one can happen

matey

this universe will not survive indefinitely <- youre pretty sure?

CrystalMath

pretty sure

matey

as long as youre pretty sure

CrystalMath

not even Penrose has hopes that we could survive indefinitely

matey

mincer does

CrystalMath

and like i said, saying that everyone here will die a normal biological death is an astoundingly great bet

matey

even though he hopes we dont, he has hopes we could :)

techrights-news

Steven Vaughan-Nichols now helps Microsoft by spinning Microsoft shipping malware as an "open source" issue https://www.zdnet.com/article/corrupted-open-source-software-enters-the-russian-battlefield/

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matey

oh biological death seems very likely yes

matey

but theres a wee difference between biological death and oops, universe doesnt exist

matey

not that it would make any PRACTICAL difference

matey

i mean, it would be the same to us

CrystalMath

it's actually extremely unlikely that we will be suddenly instantly wiped out by a

matey

you have to be pretty sentimental to care if theres a universe after every being in the universe is dead

CrystalMath

(sentence stopped on purpose for comedic effect ;P)

CrystalMath

but i meant to add "quantum vacuum decay event"

Mar 22 16:37

matey

but forever is such a long time

Mar 22 16:37

CrystalMath

the universe, as it is, is hostile to ordered things like life and computers

techrights-news

"most of my activity around Debian has come to a complete halt (Send your thanks to da-manager@debian.org!). Since I still have a few computers running Debian, I keep maintaining a few things which I heavily rely on, in particular KDE/Plasma and RSSguard." https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/03/packages-for-debian-kde-plasma-rssguard-et-al/

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matey

so is microsoft

CrystalMath

that's why computers always fail, and lives always end

CrystalMath

and software always crashes

techrights-news

"This is the 99th issue of syslog-ng Insider, a monthly newsletter that brings you syslog-ng-related news." https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/the-syslog-ng-insider-2022-03-syslog-ng-4-mqtt-source-zinc-elastic-cloud-3-36 https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/the-system-source-of-syslog-ng-now-also-works-on-macos

MinceR

well, presumably if we do manage to overcome our issues, it might actually be worth surviving indefinitely

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The 5 Best Open-Source Internet Radio Apps for Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162844

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MinceR

if we don't, it's unlikely that we can protect ourselves from the threats of the universe anyway, or even from ourselves

matey

russians have replaced mincer with a facsimile

matey

but they dont fool me, this one is too optimistic

MinceR

prayer doesn't work against asteroids

MinceR

prayer doesn't stop the lifecycle of the Sun

MinceR

and neither does totalitarianism

matey

mincer: so its win-win basically

techrights-news

Here’s why Putin won’t use nukes in Ukraine — Pass it on. | I, Cringely ⚓ https://www.cringely.com/2022/03/21/heres-why-putin-wont-use-nukes-in-ukraine-pass-it-on/

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MinceR

i guess so

techrights-news

"For many years we’ve had this outstanding idea to add a new API to libcurl that would offer applications easy access to HTTP response headers." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/22/a-headers-api-for-libcurl/

Mar 22 16:43

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Mar 22 16:43

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Mar 22 16:43

CrystalMath

MinceR: i see myself as on entropy's side, tbh

CrystalMath

i welcome my eventual end

XRevan86

https://zona.media/news/2022/03/22/nev well crap

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XRevan86

Nevzorov caught it.

MinceR

caught what?

XRevan86

MinceR: A criminal case for spreading "fakes".

XRevan86

for sharing footage from Ukraine

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MinceR

techrights-news

Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162666#comment-33153

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"The Web and design team at Canonical run two-week iterations building and maintaining all of the Canonical websites and product web interfaces. Here are some of the highlights of our completed work from this iteration." https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-25-february-2022

Mar 22 16:46

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Mar 22 16:46

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Mar 22 16:49

XRevan86

MinceR: Ukraine is fake news.

Mar 22 16:49

XRevan86

There is no war, every picture is fake.

schestowitz-TR

"peacekeeping"

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activelow

XRevan86: i feel like joining one of the protests, and swinging a flag "No weapons of mass destruction in Ukraine"

schestowitz-TR

it's a good thing Russia got there in time

schestowitz-TR

For the "peacekeeping"

techrights-news

IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162845

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XRevan86

activelow: Sounds good. Just in case: Russian weapons of mass destruction?

matey

youve got to spend peace to keep peace

matey

you cant have your peace and eat it too

matey

peace of cake

schestowitz-TR

peace of cake

schestowitz-TR

XRevan86

matey: "Zа мир!"

matey

ugh

schestowitz-TR

same joke

schestowitz-TR

same time

XRevan86

War is Peace.

matey

war <3 peace

matey

freedom <3 slavery

activelow

XRevan86: officially Ukraine and the comedian from Kiev haven't got any; yet Selensky argued the Budapest Memorandum was void.

matey

microsoft <3 linux

schestowitz-TR

microsoft <3 microsoft

XRevan86

The best thing is that this is not a hyperbole enough.

XRevan86

s/enough/anymore/

schestowitz-TR

bill loves Lolita

techrights-news

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XRevan86

I shouldn't let myself be distracted and let muscle memory finish my sentences.

matey

<XRevan86> The best thing is that this is not a hyperbole enough. <- we should call pudding the minister of truth

matey

and the minister of peace

psydruid

Lolita <3 Nabokov

https://okrug.tv/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/b67ea222357c69b97cef466a37aee0ba4e2a7dfe-1536x1023.jpg

XRevan86

XRevan86

Just so people here don't think I'm exaggerating.

techrights-news

Microsoft outsourcing https://blog.tomecek.net/post/prometheus-counters-dont-behave/

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MinceR

russian alphabet reform!

techrights-news

New Linux kernel has improved random-number generation • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162847

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XRevan86

"Zа мир! Zа Россию! Zа президента!" ("For peace! For Russia! For the president!" with all З's replaced with a Latin "Z").

Mar 22 16:56

MinceR

should have been "Zа преzидента"

Mar 22 16:56

XRevan86

MinceR: Ꙁело правильно глаголаешь.

psydruid

Mir me dolazi na obzir

techrights-news

"These packages are basically the .EXE of Debian-based Linux distributions" Git lib ted - This is nonsense and false https://linuxstoney.com/in-linux-they-are-basic-but-do-you-know-what-deb-files-are/

MinceR

my font renderer just had an aneurysm :>

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matey

why a latin z?

XRevan86

matey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(military_symbol)

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matey

good lord.

MinceR

i guess z is easier to distinguish v than from з from в

MinceR

also easier to write

MinceR

and so "Z" is becoming a nazi symbol

MinceR

s/sh /sh from /

matey

well if you take 2 z's

matey

and rotate one 90 degrees

MinceR

yeah, they could go further

matey

then put it over the other one...

MinceR

"卐а мир!" etc.

techrights-news

EasyOS: "Forum member 'proebler' reported that when the geany text editor extra-plugins package is installed (via the package manager), the spell-checking plugin does not work."

psydruid

CrystalMath, мир не долаzи на обzир

MinceR

oops, wrong direction

CrystalMath

psydruid: heh, that sudden latin z :P

MinceR

"卍а мир!" etc.

matey

<XRevan86> The best thing is that this is not a hyperbole enough. #techrights : 03/22/22 16:53 <XRevan86> I shouldn't let myself be distracted and let muscle memory finish my sentences. <- i often type the word next to the one i meant to type

CrystalMath

but if this is meant to be serbian, then it should be "u obzir", no?

psydruid

oh, right

psydruid

I forgot the exact expression

techrights-news

"Notea is an open-source web-based note-taking app for creative people." https://medevel.com/notea-os-note-taking-app/ needs to delete Microsoft Github

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psydruid

I haven't done any vocabulary learning recently

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CrystalMath

XRevan86: did Z have any meanings before this?

techrights-news

This one too needs to delete Microsoft Github https://medevel.com/planka-os-project-management/

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XRevan86

CrystalMath: no

psydruid

мир не долаzи у обzир

XRevan86

"обзир" <- oh, an o→i? Just like in Ukrainian, interesting.

schestowitz-TR

eucrasian

XRevan86

psydruid: Does it happen in a stressed position always?

CrystalMath

XRevan86: yeah, serbian looks a bit like ukrainian sometimes

CrystalMath

also with verbs in the infinitive ending in -ti

XRevan86

I've noticed that in Ukrainian that o→i is not always stressed, but when it's not the word has a different stress in Russian, like "комната".

XRevan86

CrystalMath: -ti is pan-Slavic.

psydruid

XRevan86, CrystalMath can tell you, I'm just a guest in his language and country (sometimes)

XRevan86

In Russian it is reduced to -t'

Mar 22 17:04

XRevan86

In Ukrainian it's broadened to -ty (and common dialectal -t' is also present)

Mar 22 17:05

schestowitz-TR

I read that as bombarded

Mar 22 17:06

activelow

is this the root of Ukraine: Ukrach (to steel)?

Mar 22 17:06

XRevan86

activelow: no, and ye also misspelt "steal".

techrights-news

"The company only lists Windows 10 and Windows 11 operating systems for iBOX 1200 embedded BOX PCs, so it’s unclear" why CNX even covers this! https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/22/asrock-fanless-ibox-1200-series-alder-lake-p-mini-pcs/ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/

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Quadric devkit features q16 hybrid AI, DSP, computer vision accelerator • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162848

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psydruid

that's a bombshell

CrystalMath

XRevan86: it's sometimes reduced to -t' in croatian, also dialectal

techrights-news

First world problems https://cubiclenate.com/2022/03/21/wireless-network-bridge-solution/

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XRevan86

schestowitz: In English the concept of slendering/broadening (i.e. palatalisation/velarisation) is not developed, so good luck understanding what I meant :)

techrights-news

Pollutes the planet all the same https://dwaves.de/2022/03/22/human-space-travel-to-moon-and-mars-one-more-step-for-mankind-reusable-renewable-rockets-are-the-way-to-the-space-future/

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psydruid

as predicted the malicious x86 computer industry will try anything to stay relevant in the face of competition

XRevan86

> The palatalized/velarized contrast is known by other names, especially in language pedagogy: in Irish and Scottish Gaelic language teaching, the terms slender (for palatalized) and broad (for velarized) are often used.

Mar 22 17:10

XRevan86

> palatalized ("soft" or iotated) and plain ("hard") Slavic consonants.

Mar 22 17:10

XRevan86

There is different terminology to refer to the same concept.

Mar 22 17:10

XRevan86

CrystalMath: "it's sometimes reduced to -t' in croatian, also dialectal" <- The difference is not as noticeable as in Ukrainian.

Mar 22 17:11

psydruid

also those AMD Milan-X parts with huge caches that will only benefit a few workloads to a limited extent seem like a waste of transistors

Mar 22 17:11

psydruid

but I take it they will be really expensive to acquire and run

Mar 22 17:12

XRevan86

Because velarised -ty and (shortened) palatalised -t' are on opposite sides from original -ti

Mar 22 17:12

XRevan86

I.e. these are diverging developments.

Mar 22 17:12

XRevan86

But not too diverging, Ukrainian can do both.

Mar 22 17:13

XRevan86

Ukrainian in comparison to many other Slavic languages is very velarised.

Mar 22 17:14

techrights-news

This morning a bunch of documents were circulated to explain in a more concise fashion abuses that EPO staff had been subjected to http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-dissent-explained/

Mar 22 17:14

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Mar 22 17:14

XRevan86

psydruid: Do ye know of other Slavic languages that shift from slender consonants like t' to a velar "t" rather than go full circle and end up with complete iotation like "ts", "ch" or "sh"?

Mar 22 17:16

XRevan86

(ye know what I'm talking about?)

Mar 22 17:16

psydruid

XRevan86, what is velar?

Mar 22 17:16

psydruid

I think Bulgarian is close to Serbian in terms of sounds, but I haven't actually studied it

Mar 22 17:17

XRevan86

psydroid: Твёрдый согласный

Mar 22 17:18

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Mar 22 17:19

psydruid

I think I understand what you mean

Mar 22 17:21

psydruid

doesn't Polish have that?

Mar 22 17:21

psydruid

główny <-> glavni

Mar 22 17:22

XRevan86

psydruid: No, I mean like "robiti" → "robyty"

Mar 22 17:23

psydruid

I only speak bits and pieces of 4 Slavic languages

Mar 22 17:24

XRevan86

In Polish that would be "robić" ("robich")

Mar 22 17:24

psydruid

żyć?

Mar 22 17:24

psydruid

być

Mar 22 17:25

techrights-news

"The Open Source Initiative has announced the results of its 2022 board election." https://lwn.net/Articles/888863/ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/open-source-initiative-goodbyes/

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XRevan86

psydruid: "ć" is like a second stage palatalisation, that's what I meant by complete iotation.

XRevan86

In English that manifests in words like "action'.

techrights-news

Criminals from Microsoft breached by other criminals https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/03/22/lapsus-okta-microsoft/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Lapsus$ gang says it has breached Okta and Microsoft - Help Net Security

psydruid

I don't know enough Czech and Slovak to say anything about them

Mar 22 17:27

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Mar 22 17:27

psydruid

XRevan86, I meant the preceding vowel

techrights-news

Stop calling Windows "PC" https://twinfinite.net/2022/03/out-of-the-park-baseball-23-set-to-launch-on-pc-mac-linux-april-22/ Windows is CP http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-and-rick-allen-jones/

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techrights-news

Google announce 'alpha-quality' Steam on Chrome OS is now actually here | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-announce-alpha-quality-steam-on-chrome-os-is-now-actually-here

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XRevan86

psydruid: Ah, well, it's like that in almost all Slavic languages.

techrights-news

"There are now more than 1600 games working on the Steam Deck – (1618 at the time of writing) in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/1600-games-on-the-steam-deck-including-dirt-5-as-verified/

psydruid

живети and бити in Serbian iirc

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | 1600 Games On The Steam Deck, including Dirt 5 as Verified - Boiling Steam

XRevan86

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Cs-b%C3%BDt.ogg oh wow, many not

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Mar 22 17:31

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Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/white-house-warns-of-possible-russian-cyberattacks.html

Mar 22 17:31

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Mar 22 17:31

XRevan86

Wait, it's a homophone with "to beat" ("бити") in Czech then?

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"Alice: Madness Returns is an absolute classic from Spicy Horse Games and EA. It vanished from Steam for years and it recently arrived back. With Proton on Linux and Steam Deck, it does work quite well too!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/alice-madness-returns-appears-on-steam-again-works-well-on-steam-deck-with-60fps-fix

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psydruid

apparently :)

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The guardian of Bill Gates and his child sex monsters, MIT, is blaming "open source" for MICROSOFT shipping MALWARE https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/21/1047489/activists-are-targeting-russians-with-open-source-protestware

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XRevan86

psydruid: To beat or not to beat?

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psydruid

XRevan86, what is the question? :)

Mar 22 17:36

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MIT Technology Review basically blames the victims of Microsoft for what Microsoft is doing

Mar 22 17:38

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Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XVIII — The Story of NPM http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/

Mar 22 17:38

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Mar 22 17:38

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Microsoft: it's the fault of the user when our systems get breached http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/

Mar 22 17:39

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Mar 22 17:39

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activelow

AMD Milan-x 768MiB L3 cache... the cortex a53 got 3000x less than that, 256KiB, and surprisingly it's enough for 4cores

XRevan86

psydruid: Some say a question, others say torture.

XRevan86

psydruid: Fun fact: the Ukrainian word for question is indeed the same word as the Russian word for torture "пытати", the trick is that the meaning is idiomatic. So it originated like "nagging" I guess.

Mar 22 17:42

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AvosLocker is a ransomware group that was identified in 2021, specifically targeting Windows machines https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/22/fbi-and-fincen-release-advisory-avoslocker-ransomware FBI and CISA do not even name Microsoft or Windows, as usual

Mar 22 17:42

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Mar 22 17:42

psydruid

AMD Milan-X isn't 1000 times as fast as a processor with Cortex-A53 cores

Mar 22 17:43

XRevan86

So they're not like some strange conflation of sounds.

Mar 22 17:43

XRevan86

Language development, amirite?

Mar 22 17:44

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" Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" proprietary software https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-081-01

Mar 22 17:44

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Delta Electronics DIAEnergie | CISA

Mar 22 17:44

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"MSSQLSERVER" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-238-03 Microsoft

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Delta Electronics DIAEnergie (Update B) | CISA

activelow

sad, sun12x22 console font is russophobe... no cyrillic hyroglyphs with it

psydruid

in Hindi we have the verb "puchna" and noun "praśna"

psydruid

XRevan86, that is an interesting development, yeah

Mar 22 17:46

techrights-news

Microsoft SQL 'Server' is not a DB. It's malware that can also do some things like a real DB.

Mar 22 17:46

CrystalMath

XRevan86: in serbian that means "to ask"

Mar 22 17:46

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Mar 22 17:47

XRevan86

Err, yea, "to ask".

Mar 22 17:47

XRevan86

Don't know why I treated "question" like a verb. Doesn't matter, the word for "question" in Ukrainian is "питання".

Mar 22 17:47

XRevan86

So a noun formed from a verb.

CrystalMath

close to serbian, "pitanje"

activelow

"to ash"... from "asha"... the truth, the remains from fire (Persian i think)

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Looks like this is common.

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techrights-news

Microsoft cannot defend Windows (too many back doors and defects), so the best it can do it pay the media to stay quiet, change the topic, or blame the wrong parties.

psydruid

Я хочу пытать тебя!

Mar 22 17:49

XRevan86

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/pytati hm, maybe it's the other way around

Mar 22 17:49

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Mar 22 17:50

XRevan86

Looks like I mistook the direction of the development :)

Mar 22 17:50

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"Monitoring the resources of your Linux server and watching for negative trends is one way to stay ahead of potential performance issues, and the sar command will help you do exactly that. In this video, Jay goes over the basics of the sar command." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=D5fMGFZoFT8

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matey

Fun fact: the Ukrainian word for question is indeed the same word as the Russian word for torture "пытати", the trick is that the meaning is idiomatic. So it originated like "nagging" I guess. <- TIL my family is ukranian

XRevan86

"question ← nagging ← torture" <- Actually, question → nagging → torture

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"In this video, I am going to show an overview of Linux Mint LMDE 5 "Elsie" and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=roKebjvzP6E

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matey

english: question -> "interrogation" -> torture

psydruid

lol

matey

interrogation is questioning, it goes either way in terms of context

activelow

satan/shaitan is "scheitern", "Scheiterhaufen", of human sacrifice, burning witches and heretics

activelow

from the inquisition

XRevan86

matey: Hm, true.

MinceR

fear -> anger -> hate -> suffering

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WSL is an attack on Linux, it's Windows in disguise, and firms should quit using Microsoft's attack on Linux as a pretext for bashing the security of GNU/Linux https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/QUALYS-INC-11612572/news/Qualys-Implications-of-Windows-Subsystem-for-Linux-for-Adversaries-Defenders-Part-1-39829650/

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https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/pre%E1%B8%B1-

psydruid

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wiktionary.org | Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/preḱ- - Wiktionary

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/pre%E1%B8%B1-

psydruid

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matey

windows -> sco unix -> gnu/linux -> bsd

XRevan86

""to ash"... from "asha"... the truth, the remains from fire (Persian i think)" <- I was distracted, so I didn't pay attention to this. So I finally read this message, noticed that it's absolute nonsense and only then noticed who wrote it.

Mar 22 17:54

matey

larch -> lurch -> lunch

Mar 22 17:55

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This isn't the solution, this is the LF acting as a marketing proxy for sponsors https://www.linux.com/audience/enterprise/sboms-supporting-safety-critical-software/

Mar 22 17:55

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Mar 22 17:55

activelow

suffering = saufen (to drink, as animals do); hate from haides/hades ... the grasland; angst is the mental state of being afraid;

XRevan86

activelow: Do ye have like notes with these quips?

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FOSSlife webspam https://www.fosslife.org/sysadmin-jobhub-launched

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activelow

XRevan86: (old) german language

matey

soften -> saufen -> surfin

techrights-news

Mostly a decade-old buzzword (I think Gulag made it up ~15 years ago) for sysadmin https://www.fosslife.org/2022-report-highlights-growth-sre-practices

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https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1503559619175600131-2048x1129.jpg

MinceR

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XRevan86

activelow: The Old German word for "ash" is "asko", the Old German word for "ask" is "aiskon".

XRevan86

These things are almost too easy to look up.

CrystalMath

activelow isn't etymology man

psydruid

I thought it was about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B9%9Ata

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CrystalMath

maybe he knows more about insects instead :P

MinceR

maybe he should talk more about insects, then

XRevan86

CrystalMath: He is etymology man, but he draws his etymologies from shrooms or something.

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matey

or a hat

MinceR

or nationalist bullshit etymology

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MinceR

like the nuts who decided that hungarian is derived from turkic and/or sumerian

matey

if youre from budapest and in good health, youre a well hungarian

XRevan86

Maybe it's time to rewatch https://youtu.be/6YlJ24o8qfQ for nostalgia's sake.

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CrystalMath

https://xkcd.com/1012/

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XRevan86

He knew how to deliver stuff well, he was a popular satiric on the Russian TV. Unfortunately he was also completely nuts.

XRevan86

( he being https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Nikolayevich_Zadornov )

Mar 22 18:03

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Mar 22 18:03

XRevan86

> He supported the revisionist fringe theory that the Russian language descends from the Vedas and Etruria, put forward by philosopher Valeriy Chudinov. Since 2006, Zadornov had incorporated Chudinov-style wordplay into his sketches, based on folk etymology.

CrystalMath

MinceR: i noticed some vague similarity with turkish, but very little

MinceR

there are some loan words from turkish

XRevan86

"этруски, это русские", that's the level of linguistic analysis.

MinceR

mostly from the time when the ottomans ruled most of hungary

MinceR

XRevan86: lol

CrystalMath

XRevan86: nice :P

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XRevan86

I wonder if I can find him with translations, I'm curious what activelow, a guy who thinks German is everything, would think about a guy who thought that Russian is everything.

matey

he would think the russian was wrong about everything

https://www.pogowasright.org/this-database-stores-the-dna-of-31000-new-yorkers-is-it-illegal/

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MinceR

XRevan86: there are guys who believe hungarian is everything

CrystalMath

XRevan86: russian does ultimately descend from proto-indo-european, as does the language of the vedas

psydruid

the thing with бог started constructively and then I closed the video stream :)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/bog%D1%8A

psydruid

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activelow

XRevan86: wrong, i am referring to old Deutsch/Saxon; modern german disgust isn't the language of mine

matey

well that settles it then

matey

thats completely different

CrystalMath

activelow: it is a fact that as you go into the past, all the european languages become closer

activelow

it is; grammatical refinement, vocabulary, pronounciation - modern german and speakers are a persiflage at best

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https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/

activelow

CrystalMath: don't think so; some particular language roots were best preserved with old Deutsch (not anymore)

Mar 22 18:10

XRevan86

psydroid: "the thing with бог started constructively and then I closed the video stream :)" <- Ye needed to wait just a little bit longer

Mar 22 18:11

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XRevan86

psydroid: 50s – "небеса" from "бесы"

XRevan86

"бескультурный" he also draws from "бесы".

matey

25огб to 4

XRevan86

It's a bloody preposition, and a common one too.

XRevan86

CrystalMath: "russian does ultimately descend from proto-indo-european, as does the language of the vedas" <- Of course.

XRevan86

activelow: "wrong, i am referring to old Deutsch/Saxon; modern german disgust isn't the language of mine" <- Surprisingly enough, I was referring to Proto-West Germanic, an ancestor of Old Saxon.

Mar 22 18:15

XRevan86

And of Old High German, which could be what activelow calls "Old Deutsch".

Mar 22 18:16

matey

if youre retired and stoned in deutchland, youre an old high german

Mar 22 18:17

psydruid

is this Old High German documented somewhere so you can learn it?

Mar 22 18:17

activelow

psydruid: not anymore.

Mar 22 18:17

psydruid

I wonder why not, if you can still learn Old English and Old Norse

activelow

because, the speakers were eradicated.

XRevan86

psydroid: https://users.clas.ufl.edu/drjdg/gerdut/pubs/WrightOHGPrimer.pdf check what I found

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XRevan86

psydroid: Unless ye meant the activelow's version of the language, in that case the speakers were eradicated, possibly by extraterrestrials.

Mar 22 18:20

psydruid

XRevan86, I meant the version of the language for which you just linked to a textbook

Mar 22 18:21

activelow

XRevan86: allright then; where is word "Sieg" (victory) derived from?

Mar 22 18:21

XRevan86

psydruid: Ah, well, obviously, duh. European languages are very well-researched.

Mar 22 18:21

matey

on mars they determine innocence or guilt using a salem-like method of dangling the accused over a balcony

Mar 22 18:22

matey

hence the term "extra-terrace trials"

Mar 22 18:22

psydruid

we have "zege" and "zegevieren" in Dutch

Mar 22 18:23

MinceR

lol @ extra-terrace trials

Mar 22 18:23

activelow

it is the Ziege (Zieg, the goat); which pre-historic farmers disputed over, and the winner got it, the Zieg (Heidrun, Almathea, etc.)

Mar 22 18:23

activelow

in rune script, it's the Sig Rune.

matey

take off every zieg

XRevan86

activelow: An Old High German word "sigi".

MinceR

move zieg

XRevan86

Traces back to a P-I-E word for strength, power, holding.

XRevan86

Has Greek and Sanskrit cognates.

Mar 22 18:25

XRevan86

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%B4%CF%83%CF%87%CF%89#Ancient_Greek like this one

Mar 22 18:26

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Mar 22 18:26

matey

kya hindi que spanish kaun hindi quien spanish kitne hindi quantity english

Mar 22 18:26

psydruid

and έχω

matey

my mother was a saint!

XRevan86

and your father smelt of elderberries

matey

3zw!

matey

/me has to learn real cyrillic someday

XRevan86

psydruid: oh yea, that's a way more important one

Mar 22 18:28

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Mar 22 18:30

psydruid

ἔχω

Mar 22 18:31

XRevan86

psydruid: goat?

Mar 22 18:32

psydruid

that's better with the Polytonic Greek keyboard

Mar 22 18:32

XRevan86

psydruid: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/912/336/58c.png

XRevan86

"Is this a goat?"

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psydruid

XRevan86, I had Ancient Greek in school, so I just thought I had to write it correctly according to the old rules I learned back then

XRevan86

psydruid: I was just alluding to the activelow's goat hypothesis.

Mar 22 18:36

XRevan86

Sounds nicer than the cow tit hypothesis.

psydruid

yeah, I like to keep goats far away from me

psydruid

haha

AdmFubar

Come on, seriously? You have to ask??? https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/22/has-microsoft-been-hacked/

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AdmFubar

Update to the above story.... the hacking group that that stole their data is no returning it and paying M$ to keep it!!!!

Mar 22 18:40

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LabPlot 2.9 Beta • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162859

Mar 22 18:40

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Mar 22 18:40

XRevan86

psydruid: 1:30 – Zadornov traces Russian back to "several thousands of years before the construction of the Egyptian pyramids"

activelow

psydruid: ancient greek is lectured in any school i am aware of

activelow

psydruid: ancient greek is _not_ lectured in any school i am aware of

activelow

and the speakers are gone almost entirely

psydruid

active low, it is in gymnasia like the one I attended

MinceR

lol

activelow

archaic language is nuckled at the mothers breast

Mar 22 18:45

activelow

that's why, it is mother tongue

Mar 22 18:45

activelow

although, my grandmother, now 90years old, was the last remaining speaker i knew

XRevan86

Of Ancient Greek?

activelow

closer to swedish i would say

XRevan86

Ancient Greek and Swedish are practically twins

http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=313042

activelow

Trundhol Sun Chariot

Mar 22 18:47

activelow

Trundholm Sun Chariot

Mar 22 18:47

AdmFubar

yeah they're twins like schwarzenegger and devito....

Mar 22 18:48

XRevan86

AdmFubar: :)

Mar 22 18:49

AdmFubar

Mar 22 18:49

psydruid

ειμι (< εσμι) εις (< εσσι) εστι εσμεν εστε εισι

Mar 22 18:49

psydruid

looks more like Serbian and Sanskrit than like Swedish

Mar 22 18:50

psydruid

but I have an open mind

Mar 22 18:50

AdmFubar

I read that in a fortune cookie once...

Mar 22 18:51

XRevan86

"that's why, it is mother tongue" <- English speakers that have 90-year old mothers can still hear the language of Beowulf when their mothers speak.

Mar 22 18:51

AdmFubar

Mar 22 18:52

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Mar 22 18:52

psydruid

I'm still looking for that elusive universal cow tit goat language

Mar 22 18:53

AdmFubar

don't baaaa-ther!

Mar 22 18:55

XRevan86

Their mums are like "aweorpan threax", and they're like "O.K., mum, in a minute!"

Mar 22 18:55

AdmFubar

hhhmmm that sounds more bostonian....

Mar 22 18:56

XRevan86

(I cannot guarantee accuracy)

Mar 22 18:56

AdmFubar

https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/sourcecode/metas-collision-course-with-history

Mar 22 18:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meta embraced the death of globalization, and it’s paying off - Protocol

Mar 22 19:00

XRevan86

AdmFubar: Maybe that's what it was like for activelow.

Mar 22 19:00

kingoffrance

pretty sure sanctions are "globalization" in action, and not "the death of globalization"

XRevan86

psydruid: The reptilians erased it from existence.

https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/last-mile-delivery-data-commerce

AdmFubar

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beans.ai, Here use firefighters and location data for mapping - Protocol

https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-fintech/crypto-sanctions-compliance

XRevan86

psydruid: Only activelow is left alive to share the wisdom of the slime.

Mar 22 19:04

AdmFubar

Mar 22 19:04

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Mar 22 19:04

XRevan86

activelow: On what language do ye think they speak on the planet Nibiru?

Mar 22 19:07

MinceR

(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04pdRDvith4

Mar 22 19:08

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Mar 22 19:08

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Mar 22 19:08

AdmFubar

coming soon a new soft drink.. Slurm! https://www.rawstory.com/2657016890/

Mar 22 19:09

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Mar 22 19:09

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Mar 22 19:13

activelow

XRevan86: there is very few speakers remaing, yes.

Mar 22 19:16

XRevan86

activelow: Can ye give an example of speech?

Mar 22 19:17

*XRevan86 has popcorn ready.

Mar 22 19:17

activelow

XRevan86: no. it is ridiculed as if the speakers were dumbfucks.

Mar 22 19:18

XRevan86

activelow: Don't be shy.

Mar 22 19:18

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Mar 22 19:19

activelow

a good start is Netherlands, among the Swiss-Germans, and some emmigrees of the Mennonites/Amish/Hutterites

Mar 22 19:19

XRevan86

activelow: "a good start is Netherlands" <- Was your mother from Holland?

Mar 22 19:19

XRevan86

and spoke Dutch as a native tongue?

Mar 22 19:20

activelow

XRevan86: no, my mother is from Saxony-Anhalt, her father was the offspring of a Russian WW2 soldier btw.

Mar 22 19:20

activelow

and the dialect was common among the relatives of my father

Mar 22 19:20

XRevan86

activelow: Um… dude…

XRevan86

activelow: Your mystery Old German is called Low German.

XRevan86

It's a different dialect group from High German.

activelow

although, the dialect from saxony-anhalt is important too, with some consonant shifts (g -> j)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German#Geographical_extent

XRevan86

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Low German - Wikipedia

activelow

it's not a dialect group as such, it is *old* Deutsch

activelow

and the names given to children changed, the names of the generation of my grandparents disappeared completely nowadays, both forname and surnames.

https://language.mki.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/1102/2017/05/deutsche_dialekte.jpg

XRevan86

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activelow

and even if, occasionally, some names re-appear, it is charlatans and fakes often.

activelow

same with the language, which is mocked and immitated sometimes, yet it isn't the original.

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Mar 22 19:24

activelow

XRevan86: and, i am missig the particular humor, which disappeared to.

Mar 22 19:24

activelow

too

Mar 22 19:25

XRevan86

activelow: Ye're like those people that think that Bulgarian is the real Old Russian.

Mar 22 19:25

activelow

XRevan86: the cyrillic script is attributed to Bulgaria, although i cannot verify this.

Mar 22 19:26

activelow

and i suspect, modern Russian/Cyrillic is a newer greek dialect offspring, west-germanic is probably older

Mar 22 19:26

XRevan86

West-Germanic Cyrillic is older than Russian Cyrillic?

activelow

with rune-script being the common ancestry of both Latin and Greek script

activelow

XRevan86: no, i suspect cyrillic script is younger than runes ("latin"/"greek")

psydruid

XRevan86, is there a similar work for Old Low German?

https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/mailbox.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-mailbox#comic )

XRevan86

psydruid: Internet has it all.

Mar 22 19:28

psydruid

all-right, I just have to pray to a goat to be able to find it

Mar 22 19:28

activelow

Baphomet, yes.

Mar 22 19:29

XRevan86

psydruid: Maybe as "Old Saxon"

Mar 22 19:29

activelow

seems common among some frenchmen too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jean_Dodal_Tarot_trump_15.jpg

Mar 22 19:32

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Mar 22 19:32

activelow

yet this is only satire, humor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

Mar 22 19:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Baphomet - Wikipedia

Mar 22 19:33

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Mar 22 19:33

psydruid

"Wi Leahre Plautdietsch: A Beginner's Guide to Mennonite Low German (Dutch, German and English Edition)"

Mar 22 19:38

XRevan86

psydruid: That's good, because I couldn't find it :)

Mar 22 19:38

MinceR

Mar 22 19:40

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Mar 22 19:40

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Mar 22 19:40

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United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Half a Million Infected Per Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/22/united-kingdom-covid/

Mar 22 19:42

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Mar 22 19:42

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Mar 22 19:43

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Mar 22 19:43

bnchs__

hmmm

Mar 22 19:51

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Mar 22 19:53

DaemonFC

Well, the doctor visit went better than I had anticipated.

Mar 22 19:53

DaemonFC

It seems like half of them should be under malpractice investigation these days. Especially those ones at the Health Department.

Mar 22 19:54

DaemonFC

When a patient consistently has high blood pressure that is stage 1 hypertension, you don't tell them "We're absolutely not treating this with medication, go home and eat a DASH diet or enjoy the stroke.".

Mar 22 19:54

DaemonFC

But that's basically what the Health Department does.

bnchs__

DaemonFC, lol

bnchs__

you have blood pressure

bnchs__

ofc you're fat go diet retard

bnchs__

because we don't treat you

DaemonFC

And when you tell them "I hate DASH diets and I tried one for a while and it doesn't work." they just stare blankly.

MinceR

DAESH diet

DaemonFC

Yeah, I'm overweight, oh well.

bnchs__

wait the diet didn't work

bnchs__

well

DaemonFC

I told the doctor "I eat what I want, when I want, and however much I want. What can I say? Frankly, I'm surprised it wasn't worse when I got on your scale.".

DaemonFC

Most of my family is overweight. Some make me look like I belong on a Star Trek TV show by comparison.

bnchs__

lol

bnchs__

when you step on his scale

bnchs__

it's gonna turn into paper

bnchs__

like paperweight

DaemonFC

Well, I'll tell you, my dad's family is all FAT and they live forever.

DaemonFC

My uncle is like 2.5 of me and he's still alive, and almost 70.

*kingoffrance .oO( systemd so fat <insert jokes here> )

bnchs__

maybe doctor should tell you what you have

DaemonFC

We went over to their house for dinner one night in the 90s.

DaemonFC

That aunt and uncle.

bnchs__

instead of calling you fat fuck and being surprised you managed to fit through the door

DaemonFC

And they served us these massive fucking enchiladas, and they were GOOD.

DaemonFC

And after we ate, we were full to the point of not being able to eat more, you know....

bnchs__

heh american dinner

Mar 22 20:00

bnchs__

how do you weigh

DaemonFC

And then it turns out that was the appetizer, and here comes Aunt Liz

DaemonFC

With dinner!

DaemonFC

And then there was fried ice cream.

DaemonFC

Everything in that house was fat.

DaemonFC

The goldfish were carp.

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DaemonFC

The cats ate until they vomited and then went back and ate more.

DaemonFC

It was like the Roman Empire in there.

bnchs__

wtf how much do you weigh

DaemonFC

255 pounds.

DaemonFC

I'm 6' 4".

bnchs__

yeah thats because the scale overflowed

bnchs__

it's probably more than that

bnchs__

8-bit weigh

Mar 22 20:03

DaemonFC

No, those scales are accurate up to 400 pounds or so.

Mar 22 20:03

XRevan86

activelow: I don't know if I should comment on the rune thing, because the runes derived from a precursor of Latin, and so obviously younger than the Greek alphabet. They are absolutely older than Cyrillic so ye got that right.

Mar 22 20:03

bnchs__

nah i'm just joking, because it was a bit of a coincidence that your weight was 255

bnchs__

the highest value you can store in 8-bits

DaemonFC

But my dad's family doesn't diet. They eat whatever they want. They're all massive. The only reason none of them that I know of made it past 86 (grandpa) was because he also smoked 3 packs of unfiltered cigarettes per day most of his life.

DaemonFC

And was constantly drunk.

DaemonFC

Going down the neighborhood (in 1955) shouting "Wanda! I want pussy!".

bnchs__

so you said your uncle was 2.5 of you?

bnchs__

that means he's more than 500 pounds

DaemonFC

He looks like Ron Jeremy ate Richard Stallman.

DaemonFC

I'm not shitting you.

bnchs__

dude rms has that sphere belly

bnchs__

it's literally impossible

DaemonFC

You'd think so.

bnchs__

to have that kind of belly

DaemonFC

And he's almost a foot shorter than I am.

activelow

XRevan86: archeological findings contradict your position

DaemonFC

So I mean, he's over 500 pounds and a foot shorter than me.

DaemonFC

Most of my dad's family is short.

DaemonFC

Short and fat.

bnchs__

nobody runs in your family

bnchs__

i bet they're just mountains of fat

activelow

XRevan86: "Ring of Pietroassa", some historical evidence, which was systematically destroyed by some certain people

DaemonFC

Nobody in my dad's family can run.

DaemonFC

Between the eating and the smoking.

bnchs__

nah they can run

bnchs__

if you tease them with food at the end

DaemonFC

They'd have a stroke 5 feet in.

DaemonFC

My grandfather made it to 86, somehow, but it was a bad 86.

XRevan86

activelow: Ye do realise the Greek alphabet is BCE?

DaemonFC

He had dementia, cancer, heart disease, diabetes.

DaemonFC

It was all self-inflicted.

XRevan86

activelow: The ring is CE

bnchs__

lol

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bnchs__

well

activelow

XRevan86: yes, and it's mis-labeled

DaemonFC

My grandpa on dad's side could drink the Russians under the table.

XRevan86

activelow: Is it actually older than the pyramids too?

bnchs__

you know what they say, live your life to the fullest

bnchs__

fullest (literally)

activelow

XRevan86: bronce-age

DaemonFC

They'd wait until he passed out at the bar and then steal all the money out of his wallet.

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DaemonFC

He had just cashed his paycheck and they'd help themselves to all of it.

DaemonFC

Had five kids, nothing left to feed them with, and he made good money.

DaemonFC

It was a UNION JOB at GM.

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DaemonFC

GM, back at the peak of GM.

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DaemonFC

Not bankrupt and the car breaks down by the third payment, guaranteed, GM.

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activelow

XRevan86: my hypothesis, the rune script is the scripture and culture supposedly lost during the "late bronce age collapse", and the following "greek dark ages" after persian raids

DaemonFC

He was a very mean man.

activelow

this is what i _believe_

DaemonFC

So he beat his wife, beat his kids, and then passed out somewhere.

DaemonFC

And then they'd all go hungry.

XRevan86

activelow: Or maybe it was made out of gold from 250 to 400 CE by the Goths.

bnchs__

wow

DaemonFC

One day he beat my grandmother because there was no food in the house except the shrimp he bought to use as fish bait, and she fried it up and fed it to the kids.

bnchs__

they all go hungry except him?

DaemonFC

He used to put them all in the car and make them steal corn.

Mar 22 20:13

DaemonFC

They'd pull over next to a field and fill the trunk with stolen corn.

Mar 22 20:13

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DaemonFC

So when there was food in the house, it would usually be things like lunch meat sandwiches and boiled corn that grandpa stole (even though he made very good money at GM).

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XRevan86

activelow: That would explain why the inscription is Gothic, right?

DaemonFC

He'd drink til passed out, get ripped off for whatever was left in his wallet, scream that he wanted pussy for the entire neighborhood to hear, beat the wife, beat the kids, starve them all, and then pass out again.

bnchs__

DaemonFC, living your life to the fullest

DaemonFC

Yeah, more Irish than mjg59_ for sure.

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DaemonFC

I'm cursed. It's on both sides of my family. The Irish. OMFG...

activelow

XRevan86: any idea why it was destroyed, this ring of the goths?

DaemonFC

Mom was talking out of her ass one day a long time ago and said there may have been a black person in my dad's side of the family somewhere. I don't know what makes her think that. I said...."IRISH!!! IRISH!!!!".

Mar 22 20:17

DaemonFC

She did find a way to make me proud of my Irish ancestry, I'll give her that.

Mar 22 20:17

XRevan86

activelow: "the ring was cut in half by thieves"

bnchs__

well yes you are cursed

XRevan86

activelow: Human negligence.

bnchs__

your family literally makes food that could feed 5 families

XRevan86

activelow: Why does the Russian army destroy historical buildings in the cities of Ukraine?

bnchs__

and you guys eat it all

bnchs__

fatasses

XRevan86

activelow: To hide a hidden cultural secret?

DaemonFC

bnchs__, Well, I don't do that.

DaemonFC

The only time I've tended to seriously overeat was at a restaurant.

DaemonFC

They make huge portions and bring them out to you and before you know it...

bnchs__

you ate it all

DaemonFC

Or buffets. schestowitz said he doesn't like them because you tend to overeat to get your money's worth.

XRevan86

activelow: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Pietroassa_Inschrift.jpg enjoy

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XRevan86

How to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_Futhark#Description

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DaemonFC

Well, if it's $10.50 no matter how much you eat, it encourages you to get a couple plates and then some cake why not.

bnchs__

DaemonFC, 10.50 dollars regardless of what you eat?

DaemonFC

Yeah.

bnchs__

that's like a fatass's dream

DaemonFC

It is!

DaemonFC

Golden Corral

DaemonFC

Ron White made it part of his routine.

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DaemonFC

And the real mystery is how they make any money at all at those prices.

DaemonFC

Even for dinner they only charge $13.50, in this economy.

DaemonFC

And they throw in unlimited steak and shrimp.

bnchs__

thats why fatasses raid buffers

bnchs__

i mean buffets

DaemonFC

It is.

bnchs__

until they have nothing

DaemonFC

Oh, I've seen way worse than me going there.

bnchs__

them in mobility scooters?

DaemonFC

They put out and entire tray of fried chicken and some black woman with an ass the size and shape of two badly parked Volkswagens in a pair of spandex pants got them all.

DaemonFC

All I wanted was one piece of chicken. Had to wait on them to fry up another batch.

bnchs__

lol

DaemonFC

I heard about one guy that kept eating fish until they threw him out, up in Wisconsin.

bnchs__

just imagine a guy in a mobility scooter

bnchs__

going up to you

DaemonFC

Then when they did that, he refused to pay, got arrested, and then came back and picketed them.

bnchs__

"can i get all of that chicken please"

DaemonFC

And got arrested again.

DaemonFC

I mean, arrested twice over fish and refusing to pay his bill and leave.

Mar 22 20:24

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Mar 22 20:24

bnchs__

i wouldn't like to work at a buffet

Mar 22 20:24

DaemonFC

The last time I was over at the Chinese buffet, there was some black lady BRAGGING about how stingy she was with tips.

bnchs__

probably low pay and loads of fatasses

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bnchs__

it's a miracle they even have buffets

DaemonFC

"Motherfucker I just done gave you a tip two days ago! I don't always have to be tippin' yo ass!"

DaemonFC

"Here she comes, hand me two dollar!"

XRevan86

activelow: It is really strange that the language in which the inscription is written belonged to a Germanic people that was contemporary to the Roman Empire, not the Bronze Age.

XRevan86

It's so weird.

DaemonFC

bnchs__, It's not just the disgusting fatasses that saunter in every day and make a mess and then tip $2 maybe.

DaemonFC

It's that they're so fucking gross and stupid that they get into fist fights and start throwing food at each other sometimes.

DaemonFC

Seen it.

bnchs__

lol

DaemonFC

Christmas Day

DaemonFC

Chinese restaurant smackdown.

bnchs__

shoves the food in their faces

bnchs__

and leave

bnchs__

that's why you guys are so obese

DaemonFC

I'm not obese.

bnchs__

i know

bnchs__

i'm talking about america

DaemonFC

Like, people come in there and I'm like "OMG HOW ARE YOU EVEN ALIVE?"

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DaemonFC

We're not talking overweight. This is way past overweight. They passed obese a few miles back. They're at Morbid Obesity.

bnchs__

yes

bnchs__

they're like people

bnchs__

who can't even stand in their 2 legs anymore

DaemonFC

Then they wonder why our healthcare costs are high.

DaemonFC

Well, if you're not going to diet and exercise, at least take your blood pressure meds so you don't stroke out.

DaemonFC

It is so much cheaper to take your meds than it is to wait as the damage piles up and eventually you're talking kidney failure, stroke, amputations.

Mar 22 20:29

bnchs__

they favor fatasses in social control media

Mar 22 20:29

DaemonFC

They all vote for Trump.

Mar 22 20:29

bnchs__

when you show them a skinny girl, they go "omg you straving" or "you ugly"

bnchs__

when you show them a morbidly obese mountain of lard, they go "omg yasss queen"

DaemonFC

There's also such a thing as disturbingly thin.

DaemonFC

But it's somewhat less common in America.

DaemonFC

By a factor of about 60.

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DaemonFC

I have been trying to do "something" about my sodium intake. It's not where it should be. Whose in America is?

DaemonFC

But I've been swapping out the "reduced sodium" versions of everything.

DaemonFC

Even the ketchup.

bnchs__

well

activelow

XRevan86: the Goths/Deutsch are not Romans/Latin; it is a distinct language, closer to Russian than roman/latin

DaemonFC

30-40% less bad may still be bad, but at least you may not be talking about a disastrous level of sodium at this point.

bnchs__

DaemonFC, do they hate diets there

XRevan86

activelow: I said "contemporary", that means "existed in the same time period"

activelow

and, again, only a hypothesis of mine, it resembles archaic greek Titan era language

bnchs__

when you do diets, do they say "you're gonna strave" or some shit?

DaemonFC

Fad diets? Oh my, no. Fad diets are BIG here.

DaemonFC

Atkins and Slim Fast were the two biggest I recall.

DaemonFC

Slim Fast does work, and so does Atkins.

DaemonFC

But compliance is an issue.

DaemonFC

Slim Fast is pretty straightforward.

DaemonFC

It's just calorie control and partial liquid diet.

XRevan86

activelow: I don't want to break it to you but Latin is closer to German than Russian is.

DaemonFC

You drink one shake for breakfast, one for lunch, and eat something for dinner that doesn't exceed about 1,500 calories and most men will lose weight at a decent pace.

DaemonFC

It mostly works by causing you not to have unstable blood sugar levels until you get to dinner.

DaemonFC

Which helps with the food cravings.

DaemonFC

I've also lost weight before with "One meal per day. Anything you want. Don't exceed 2,000 calories".

DaemonFC

That's pretty easy to do.

XRevan86

activelow: Slavic languages are Satem, Romance and Germanic languages are in one Centum group.

DaemonFC

Atkins avoids carbs almost completely.

activelow

XRevan86: not with the subset of basic vocabulary

DaemonFC

Atkins is pretty compatible with gluten-free, because a lot of the substitutions made to make something gluten free also avoid the carbs.

XRevan86

activelow: Sure, cherry-pick vocabulary in such a way that confirms your narrative.

activelow

the most obvious, Odin, as both the divnity, and the Russian number 1

activelow

to begin there

DaemonFC

Like using cauliflower pizza crusts.

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XRevan86

activelow: Is "Odin" basic vocabulary now?

DaemonFC

There's also vegetarian diets. Those tend to make you lose weight because the meal is filling without being a greasy calorie bomb, usually.

XRevan86

activelow: I can't find it in the Swadesh list for some reason.

DaemonFC

But Bill Gates is working hard against that.

DaemonFC

These fake meats not only just don't taste right.

DaemonFC

But they're less nutritious and have more sodium and saturated fat than lean ground beef sometimes.

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DaemonFC

If you're on a sodium restricted diet, you can't go anywhere near Bill's Burgers.

Mar 22 20:39

XRevan86

activelow: Russian "один" does have a German cognate, it's "ein".

Mar 22 20:39

DaemonFC

Burger King's Impossible Whoppers cost more. They taste pretty much like a normal burger, but they're higher in sodium, which isn't exactly good for you.

Mar 22 20:39

DaemonFC

Usually, when I go out to a burger place these days, I ask for the fries with no salt on them.

activelow

XRevan86: "Christianization", "Helenization" (Kyrill), besides the Wulfile Bible is attributed to eastern Europe geographically, although it is Gothic

XRevan86

activelow: By the way, Odin was earlier "Othin"

DaemonFC

That's an easy thing to cut out and they still taste pretty good.

XRevan86

activelow: P-I-E never had a "th" sound, and the whole Russian language ancestry didn't either.

DaemonFC

I still eat SPAM sometimes, but it's the less sodium SPAM.

DaemonFC

I'm married to an Asian person so soy sauce keeps coming up.

DaemonFC

The lowest sodium soy sauce I've found is Walmart's Great Value brand.

activelow

XRevan86: yes, in German language it too could be "Osdin"/Osten (east, the russian region relative to the west);

XRevan86

activelow: And here's a hint on the history of pronunciation of the name "Odin": Wednesday means "Odin's day"

DaemonFC

Kikkoman makes a lower sodium soy sauce, but it has almost as much sodium as Great Value's regular soy sauce.

activelow

Saudi(n)... it's the ones living in the south

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DaemonFC

Canned broths are the worst for sodium. When you find cans of reduced sodium broth, they have as much sodium as the regular broth in a tetrapak, and the reduced sodium broth in the tetrapak has half of the sodium as the regular tetrapak.

DaemonFC

If you want to REALLY jack up your blood pressure, use canned broths.

XRevan86

activelow: The Germanic god Wodanaz

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activelow

and it's plausible, if the Nebra Sky Disk is authentic, which i _believe_ it is, during bronce age already the goths navigated across the oceans and along the rivers, to trade and travel

XRevan86

activelow: Comparing modern Russian with "Odin" is just nuts.

DaemonFC

Sodium is a big cause of death in America because Americans like to eat, and processed foods contain much more sodium than needs to be in there.

DaemonFC

The processed food companies have spent years and years just adding more and more of it.

DaemonFC

And it's basically why SPAM doesn't really go bad for a very long time.

activelow

and at some time, known as "Titanomachy", when "Atlantis" was drowning in water (which i suspect was heavy snow-fall), Herkles/Herzeles and Atlas disputed who was supposed to carry the globe and the skies, which was the Nebra Sky Disk

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DaemonFC

Sodium jacks up diastolic blood pressure the most.

XRevan86

activelow: Your analysis is not just surface-level, it's anecdotal.

DaemonFC

Sodium is to your blood what pouring "STP oil treatment" is to a modern car engine.

DaemonFC

Just pour it in there and run the car and BOOOM!

XRevan86

"I heard that Russian has a word "odin", it must mean god "Odin" in some unfathomable stupid way"

DaemonFC

Odin is also the name of Wine for OS/2.

bnchs__

DaemonFC, just imagine this ok

bnchs__

in the future

DaemonFC

I don't think there's any technical reason why Vulkan drivers couldn't be ported to OS/2.

bnchs__

they're gonna change overweight/obese to normal

bnchs__

and today's normal to underweight

XRevan86

DaemonFC: I'm sure activelow has proof that wireless data transfer called Bluetooth is actually prehistorical.

DaemonFC

The main difference with Odin v. Wine is that Portable Executable is the native binary format of OS/2, and is a foreign binary format on UNIX.

DaemonFC

After that, the threading and process models in OS/2 are quite similar to Windows NT.

activelow

XRevan86: the "atlantis" myth is real, and the nebra sky disk is the evidence; yet it wasn't water, i think it was heavy snow fall during harsh winter season

Mar 22 20:48

activelow

that's why northern europe was known as "Hades", both as fertile land (Summer), and the land of the dead (Winter)

Mar 22 20:48

DaemonFC

<XRevan86> DaemonFC: I'm sure activelow has proof that wireless data transfer called Bluetooth is actually prehistorical.

Mar 22 20:48

DaemonFC

Well, Apple did introduce this well before it was ready.

DaemonFC

So it didn't actually work too well.

DaemonFC

Like the time Steve Jobs had his failed WiFi introduction.

XRevan86

DaemonFC: It was tough in the Bronze Age, Apple had to survive.

DaemonFC

Then started screaming at everyone in the room for trying to use it.

DaemonFC

Well, it's just like Apple, you know.

Mar 22 20:50

DaemonFC

Give you something that only begins to work after most people don't care anymore.

Mar 22 20:50

DaemonFC

Firewire....

Mar 22 20:50

activelow

the people living in southern europe didn't know prolonged harsh winter seasons, that's why, they considered "Atlantis", the original Athens of the Titan era mythology, condemned

Mar 22 20:52

psydruid

Even Thunderbolt is like that, but they merged most of it into USB 4 to keep it alive

Mar 22 20:52

DaemonFC

Atlantis had to leave Earth. It was unfortunate what happened when they encountered the Wraith.

Mar 22 20:53

DaemonFC

XRevan86, The best SG-1 episodes were always the ones when the Russians started fucking around with the Stargate and couldn't figure out how to fix any of the disasters they almost destroyed Earth with.

Mar 22 20:53

DaemonFC

Usually because they had no safety standards in place to begin with, other than maybe nerve gassing everyone on the base.

Mar 22 20:54

XRevan86

DaemonFC: It was ahead of its time.

Mar 22 20:55

DaemonFC

They tagged along with SG-1 once and nearly got everyone killed, but mostly just their whole team.

Mar 22 20:56

XRevan86

activelow: I don't do shrooms.

Mar 22 20:57

DaemonFC

Neither does he.

XRevan86

DaemonFC: What does he do?

XRevan86

Is that all natural?

DaemonFC

He has some leftover East German 49% coffee that he's been snorting during the lockdown.

DaemonFC

Nobody ever DID figure out what the rest of it was.

DaemonFC

;)

DaemonFC

Even with the fucking stupid politicians we have over here, we can normally buy most anything we want at the store.

Mar 22 21:01

DaemonFC

The whole "to each according to his needs" is where Communism keeps stumbling over and failing.

Mar 22 21:02

DaemonFC

Then they have to insist, at gunpoint.

Mar 22 21:02

DaemonFC

I don't even think that Vladimir Putin is doing whataboutisms when he brings up something that happened 30 or 40 years ago.

Mar 22 21:03

DaemonFC

The guy is living in the past.

Mar 22 21:03

DaemonFC

My mom bought a Volkswagen once and it was always in the shop and then the engine exploded at 86,000 miles (VW in any decade).

DaemonFC

MinceR, ^

DaemonFC

But it happened in 1981 and my dad was still yelling at her about it in 1995, and she asked him "When am I going to stop hearing about this?".

DaemonFC

He said, "When I think you've been punished enough.".

DaemonFC

He'd make a great Russian president I suppose.

XRevan86

> "New Chronology" is a theory of a radical revision of historical chronology, according to which the modern habitual chronology coincides with historical events only starting from the XVIII century, while in the Middle Ages there was a powerful empire of Russia-Horde, Tsar Peter I was replaced by foreigners, and Jesus Christ was born in Crimea.

XRevan86

> According to the creators of the theory, Fomenko and Nosovsky, Yaroslavl is actually the chronicle of Veliky Novgorod. Mathematicians came to this conclusion by studying the "inconsistencies" of the annals and the geography of modern Yaroslavl and Novgorod. The authors of the concept consider the official history until the 17th century to be falsified.

XRevan86

activelow: ^ This is how I classify in my mind what ye are saying.

DaemonFC

It's unclear what exactly Putin wants in Ukraine.

DaemonFC

If he tries to annex it, he'd have to divert resources away from Russia to do that with. And he probably doesn't want that.

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DaemonFC

If he tries to knock over the legitimate government and turn it back into a satellite state, the puppet regime will be universally hated, and there will have to be a long term Russian occupation to enforce the fake government, so it would be as bad as simply annexing it.

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DaemonFC

A lot of Russians are dying there, they know not why.

DaemonFC

When Ukraine rebuilds, they'll hate Russia forever.

activelow

XRevan86: evidence was systematically destroyed and falsified, one example being the Ring of Pietroassa; that's a fact.

XRevan86

activelow: Tell me they're wrong and which region of Germany Jesus Chris was born in.

DaemonFC

The Russian economy is ruined.

DaemonFC

Mission Accomplished?

activelow

XRevan86: cultural and language heritage of northern europe isn't jewish/christian/muslim

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DaemonFC

All three of those tend to kill whoever was there and less warlike before.

DaemonFC

Then declares that the heritage has always been an Abrahamic religion in that region.

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XRevan86

activelow: If the Ring of Pietroassa weren't damaged, ye would have found another artefact that were. It's as simple as that.

XRevan86

activelow: There is a shit-load of preserved artefacts. And a shit-load of damaged ones.

Mar 22 21:10

*XRevan86 imagines that activelow never broke a single thing in his life.

Mar 22 21:10

XRevan86

And if he did, it was systematic and intentional.

Mar 22 21:10

activelow

XRevan86: there isn't many artifacts nor speakers of the language remaining, in fact many artifacts (such as the golden hats presented in Nurnberg) were molten for their gold

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activelow

and the last remains of the language and their speakers are eradicated nowadays

XRevan86

activelow: There are plenty of artefacts.

MinceR

22 220325 < DaemonFC> The guy is living in the past.

MinceR

he lives in a dream world

XRevan86

activelow: Maybe not of your imaginary history, but it's literally impossible for there to be unambiguous evidence for something that never existed.

MinceR

along with his followers

DaemonFC

<MinceR> he lives in a dream world

DaemonFC

Same thing.

XRevan86

activelow: There is a lot of evidence that supports normal history though.

DaemonFC

People remember the past however they want to remember it.

DaemonFC

Then they live in it.

MinceR

22 220539 < DaemonFC> It's unclear what exactly Putin wants in Ukraine.

MinceR

map painting

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MinceR

history!

XRevan86

activelow: Actual, real chronology.

XRevan86

No Bronze Age Germans.

DaemonFC

"FBI says hackers scanned networks of US energy firms ahead of Biden's Russia cyberattack warning"

activelow

XRevan86: pre-socratic "late bronce age collapse" artifacts are very old and extremely rare, that's why it's known as the "greek dark ages"

DaemonFC

Great time for ComEd to move to Microsoft Azure.

MinceR

lol

DaemonFC

We'll see how that works out for them.

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SomeH4x0r

define deprecation

XRevan86

activelow: So ye use the gaps to fill them with your speculation?

SomeH4x0r

want to support activelow regarding GCC, fucking tired

SomeH4x0r

I mean as in my opinion only

XRevan86

"so yea, the Missing Link is actually aliens zapping humans with a smart ray"

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XRevan86

Sucks that the evolution theory is so… evolved that the Missing Link is now moot.

MinceR

can't have been a particularly smart one

SomeH4x0r

why can't we fucking write code once and let it stay for decades?

MinceR

because it's "obsolete" and "unmaintained"

SomeH4x0r

a few years pass, and it refuses to build because a few libraries break

MinceR

got to integrate an email client and a web browser so you have to issue patches every month for it.

SomeH4x0r

I might write some code, but then I might die or lose my memory about it

DaemonFC

"Some Russian soldiers have gotten frostbite due to lack of appropriate gear, senior US defense official says"

SomeH4x0r

and in a few years it turns out like I did nothing

DaemonFC

Like the Nazis when they got bogged down in Russia.

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SomeH4x0r

because no one bothers to fix that piece of code

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SomeH4x0r

software development patterns make me feel depressed regarding the future of computing

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AdmFubar

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Mar 22 21:21

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Mar 22 21:21

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"Maximising the number of towelling-off occurrences of a single towel for the entire body." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/855

Mar 22 21:22

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SomeH4x0r, i remember seeing https://semver.org/ and thinking "isnt that just how normal versioning is supposed to work?"

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SomeH4x0r

> all windows versions | not clearly defined

https://calgaryherald.com/the-logic/why-canadas-shocking-crackdown-on-the-convoy-fundraisers-continues-to-rattle-the-crypto-world

SomeH4x0r

"all windows versions" would mean from the very first Windows concept version (pre-1.0) to the current latest one

Mar 22 21:24

psydruid

windows is irrelevant and dying

Mar 22 21:24

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Mar 22 21:25

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Mar 22 21:25

bnchs__

SomeH4x0r, it probably means all windows NT versions

Mar 22 21:26

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Mar 22 21:26

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Mar 22 21:28

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DaemonFC

I like to share labs back and forth when my primary care doctor and my psychiatrist overlap, which saves me from having to have certain procedures repeated, but unfortunately due to the insane billing setup our country has, if you doctor just orders labs and doesn't state a "medically necessary" reason code, then you could end up being billed a lot when the insurance company rejects something.

Mar 22 21:35

DaemonFC

So sometimes I have to go get blood drawn again for an extra test, but instead of it being another 3-4 vials, it'll be one.

Mar 22 21:35

DaemonFC

schestowitz, Facebook owes me $397.

Mar 22 21:36

DaemonFC

They settled their BIPA case for $695 million dollars after trying to have it dismissed or removed to a friendlier court, and losing both motions.

Mar 22 21:36

DaemonFC

Then they decided after losing the BIPA case to stop using facial recognition on Facebook, at all. Because of the damages from one state law.

Mar 22 21:37

DaemonFC

BIPA is an unusually strong privacy law.

Mar 22 21:37

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Mar 22 21:38

bnchs__

DaemonFC, really?

Mar 22 21:39

bnchs__

i hope they don't remove BIPA

Mar 22 21:40

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Mar 22 21:41

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Mar 22 21:41

DaemonFC

Some companies have ceased doing business in Illinois because of the amount of money they lost.

Mar 22 21:41

DaemonFC

Most of them were up to no good anyway.

DaemonFC

This is the second time I got BIPA money from Facebook.

DaemonFC

They had another lawsuit where I got like $85 as my share of the settlement.

DaemonFC

Then Uber had a couple under BIPA and the TCPA.

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/22/routinely-terrible-anti-piracy-company-seeks-court-order-preventing-torrentfreak-from-covering-its-terribleness/

DaemonFC

I got a couple hundred bucks from them sending spam text messages.

Mar 22 21:43

DaemonFC

There's a lot of companies out there that are up to no good.

Mar 22 21:44

DaemonFC

Usually, the settlements say they're to be split with everyone who submits a valid claim.

Mar 22 21:44

DaemonFC

I got some money back from Intel once.

Mar 22 21:44

DaemonFC

They deceptively marketed a processor that I had bought 10 years prior and I got $135, which was about what the processor cost me.

Mar 22 21:45

AdmFubar

Mar 22 21:46

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/22/routinely-terrible-anti-piracy-company-seeks-court-order-preventing-torrentfreak-from-covering-its-terribleness/

Mar 22 21:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Routinely Terrible Anti-Piracy Company Seeks Court Order Preventing TorrentFreak From Covering Its Terribleness | Techdirt

Mar 22 21:46

DaemonFC

They must have gotten Matthew GOOOOOOOOLAG's attorney.

Mar 22 21:47

DaemonFC

What's most likely going on is they hired one of those fly by night companies that go "Are you a scumbag? Are you running a reprehensible business? Why should YOU change? We'll get negative information taken down GUARANTEED!".

Mar 22 21:49

techrights-news

Links 22/3/2022: Java 18 and LabPlot 2.9 Beta | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/java-18/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/java-18/

Mar 22 21:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/3/2022: Java 18 and LabPlot 2.9 Beta | Techrights

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Mar 22 21:51

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Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162872

Mar 22 21:51

psydruid

Intel marketed its own 10-year-old CPU?

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schestowitz-TR

marked down :-)

schestowitz-TR

they still have celeron

schestowitz-TR

"we make intentionally lesser CPUs"

schestowitz-TR

for the price scheme

schestowitz-TR

business model

schestowitz-TR

make intentionally crippled CPUs

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

schestowitz-TR

and use PATENTS.... a LOT

schestowitz-TR

Intel lobbies for SOFTWARE parents

techrights-news

Videos: GNOME and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162873

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: GNOME and More | Tux Machines

psydruid

they have nothing else to base their business on

schestowitz-TR

same at IBM

schestowitz-TR

(fwiw)

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techrights-news

Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162874

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-news

UK cases of COVID-19: still high, still killing almost 1,000 Brits per week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/22/united-kingdom-covid/

Mar 22 21:55

techrights-news

Facebook is a scam. With fake friends and fake "likes". https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ukraine-crypto-scam/

Mar 22 21:57

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Mar 22 21:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Don't Donate to Ukraine Through This Facebook Crypto Scam | Snopes.com

Mar 22 21:57

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Mar 22 21:58

DaemonFC

schestowitz-TR, https://www.pcmag.com/news/hacking-group-starts-dumping-files-allegedly-stolen-from-microsoft

Mar 22 22:04

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pcmag.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/hacking-group-starts-dumping-files-allegedly-stolen-from-microsoft

Mar 22 22:04

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hacking Group Starts Dumping Files Allegedly Stolen From Microsoft | PCMag

Mar 22 22:04

DaemonFC

I commented:

DaemonFC

They literally can't secure their own networks and computers and yet some people think we need their attempts at a beachhead on GNU/Linux. Simply unbelievable.

schestowitz-TR

:-D

techrights-news

33,000 blog posts in Techrights is a huge accomplishment as not many sites manage to post that much and go on relentlessly (on a daily basis) for 17 years; in Gemini we’re about to exceed 40,000 pages http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/33k-posts-in-techrights/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | We’ve Made It! | Techrights

DaemonFC

On Monday, the LAPSUS$ gang began circulating a 10GB compressed archive that supposedly contains internal data on Microsoft’s Bing search engine and Bing Maps, along with the source code to the company’s voice assistant software Cortana.

DaemonFC

“Bing Map is 90% complete dump. Bing and Cortana around 45%,” LAPSUS$ said in a post in the group’s public chatroom.

DaemonFC

schestowitz-TR, Surely this will be full of embarrassments if anyone makes a commentary about what's in it.

Mar 22 22:06

DaemonFC

Along with hiding backdoors and malware, proprietary software helps hide incompetent code. As long as it appears to work, you won't know how buggy it really is if you don't have source code.

Mar 22 22:07

DaemonFC

I doubt any department at Microsoft has some sort of vigorous internal review on code quality.

schestowitz-TR

nope

schestowitz-TR

it's not good "RoI"

schestowitz-TR

they skip

schestowitz-TR

and just marketing... instead

schestowitz-TR

and throw FUD at Linux

schestowitz-TR

it's "worse" or "just as bad"

schestowitz-TR

[21:17] <techrights-news> It seems increasingly apparent that the corporate “tech” media isn’t just misleading readers/viewers (audiences) by accident; there’s a deliberate attempt to shift attention and shift blame, so it is — in effect and in perpetuity — a campaign of disinformation (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), not just misinformation, and we must collectively confront this campaign http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/microsoft-

schestowitz-TR

infosec-propaganda/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Blames Free Software When Microsoft Distributes Malware and Gets Cracked | Techrights

DaemonFC

“Access died when I was sleeping,” one of the members wrote in the group’s public chat. “Would’ve been a complete dump. But we were all tired.”

DaemonFC

LOL

schestowitz-TR

yes, makes sense

schestowitz-TR

why would you expect windows to run OVERNIGHT?

DaemonFC

Microsoft's software crashed and ended up protecting the rest of their source code from being dumped!

DaemonFC

This is too perfect!

DaemonFC

schestowitz-TR

yes, pour some slat

schestowitz-TR

on those wounds (salt)

schestowitz-TR

we need to respond to the media BS

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/cable-tv-companies-lost-nearly-5-million-subscribers-in-2021/

schestowitz-TR

PCMag is Microsoft propaganda rag

Mar 22 22:11

schestowitz-TR

IDG

Mar 22 22:11

schestowitz-TR

they constantly make up for reality by doing webspam and noise

Mar 22 22:11

techrights-news

6 Fun Linux Distros to Try if You’re a Distro Hopper • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162875

Mar 22 22:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Fun Linux Distros to Try if You're a Distro Hopper | Tux Machines

Mar 22 22:12

DaemonFC

Mar 22 22:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cable TV Companies Lost Nearly 5 Million Subscribers in 2021 | Techdirt

Mar 22 22:17

DaemonFC

"That particular form of entertainment did not last much past the year 2027." -Data (Star Trek: TNG)

Mar 22 22:18

DaemonFC

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/big-isps-avoided-2020-law-banning-predatory-modem-rental-fees-by-simply-calling-them-something-else/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Big ISPs Avoided 2020 Law Banning Predatory Modem ‘Rental’ Fees By Simply Calling Them… Something Else | Techdirt

DaemonFC

Well, T-Mobile's home internet is good in a couple of ways.

DaemonFC

It's cheaper than Comcast, and it includes all of the fees and taxes in the $50 a month.

Mar 22 22:21

DaemonFC

So you don't need to have them go "Well, yeah the SERVICE is this much, but there's also a $6 franchise fee every month, and $10 in taxes, and a $14 modem rental. And your internet bill is now $107.

Mar 22 22:21

DaemonFC

Whoops, you used too much data. Let's just call it $127. Yeah?

Mar 22 22:22

schestowitz

DaemonFC: typos? http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/

Mar 22 22:24

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows is Dying Despite Vista 11 Hype | Techrights

Mar 22 22:24

techrights-news

⚓ spent on dishonest marketing</em> | ♾ Gemini address: spent on dishonest marketing</em>

Mar 22 22:26

techrights-news

Windows is Dying Despite Vista 11 Hype | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/

Mar 22 22:27

psydruid

the NT family of operating systems is going to be eradicated until only ReactOS remains

Mar 22 22:28

psydruid

where would that leave Microsoft?

Mar 22 22:29

schestowitz-TR

that's why they buy companies

Mar 22 22:29

schestowitz-TR

last year: we are a security company

schestowitz-TR

this year: oh, shit

bnchs__

lol

schestowitz-TR

look the other way

schestowitz-TR

LOOK< L@@@K @ Linux

bnchs__

trying to search "create file in /run"

schestowitz-TR

"dirty pipe".... "OH SNAP"

bnchs__

it's literally bringing me up windows shit

bnchs__

even though the query is related to unix-like

techrights-news

Development Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162857

Mar 22 22:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development Leftovers | Tux Machines

Mar 22 22:31

bnchs__

even with "create file in /run directory" it brings up window

Mar 22 22:32

bnchs__

windows shit

Mar 22 22:32

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Mar 22 22:32

techrights-news

Wait, they don't know Salesforce is racist? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/racial_investigation_salesforce/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Activist investors want Salesforce investigated for equality • The Register

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The OSI’s President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights

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Mar 22 22:36

techrights-news

We tried the Asahi Linux alpha on an M1 Mac Mini http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724#comment-33157

Mar 22 22:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! | Tux Machines

Mar 22 22:36

techrights-news

Xenotransplantation: Are pigs the future of organ transplants?

Mar 22 22:38

techrights-news

yes, I'm all for using human hearts to save pigs. I can think of some human pigs whose hearts might be of use to real pigs in need https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60708120

Mar 22 22:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Xenotransplantation: Are pigs the future of organ transplants? - BBC News

Mar 22 22:38

techrights-news

The whole "pig hearts" thing isn't what it seems; they genetically modify them. Sooner or later the sick, rich, greedy oligarchs will just grow extra spare humans (or close to that) for "spare parts"... in some places they do that already. A baby born any moment, to become "spare parts" of some oligarch.

Mar 22 22:40

techrights-news

Western oligarchs: "job creators".... creating more humans whose job is to give away bodyparts to ageing oligarchs. And "philanthropists"... giving loose to some hospitals that facilitate such a sick thing.

Mar 22 22:42

DaemonFC

Seems to be fine.

Mar 22 22:42

techrights-news

Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.technewsworld.com/story/ransomware-related-data-leaks-jump-82-in-2021-87419.html

Mar 22 22:42

DaemonFC

Billions wasted to continue losing marketshare.

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ransomware-Related Data Leaks Jump 82% in 2021 | TechNewsWorld

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: pretty much

DaemonFC

About all they do is cannibalize older versions of Windows.

schestowitz-TR

worse

schestowitz-TR

they spilt the development

schestowitz-TR

now they have two spaghetti to keep an eye on

DaemonFC

There's really not much development going on in Windows 10.

DaemonFC

They backport a few things.

DaemonFC

Windows 8.1 is on life support (security patches only).

schestowitz-TR

who uses it?

schestowitz-TR

I never saw it for real, ever

DaemonFC

Oh, like 4-5% I think.

DaemonFC

They're locked into supporting it because that's the lifecycle they said it would have when they released it.

DaemonFC

But it won't even get security patches for much longer.

DaemonFC

So it's basically dead.

techrights-news

OSI barely doing anything https://fossforce.com/2022/03/after-last-years-hack-osi-elects-new-board-members-without-incident/ see http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-privacy-issues/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | After Last Year's Hack, OSI Elects New Board Members Without Incident - FOSS Force

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The OSI’s Defunct Elections (Privacy Breach), Conflict of Interest (Nicholson), and Other Lingering Problems | Techrights

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Mar 22 22:48

DaemonFC

Windows 11 doesn't accomplish much of anything for Microsoft. It's like Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine.

Mar 22 22:48

DaemonFC

Nobody can quite tell what the upside of Windows 11 is for Microsoft. Probably because there isn't one.

Mar 22 22:48

techrights-news

This article makes it seem like everything started in 1991 and GNU is merely GCC, a compiler. This is gross revisionism, which helps nobody but bad faith actors. https://bytexd.com/linux-history-and-why-are-there-so-many-distros/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bytexd.com | Linux History and Why Are There So Many Distros

mimorek

droi

mimorek

oops

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/22/apple-hit-with-second-icloud-services-outage-in-two-days

DaemonFC

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/22/apple-hit-with-second-icloud-services-outage-in-two-days

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple hit with second iCloud services outage in two days | AppleInsider

AdmFubar

the upside of win 11 for m$ is they really didn't have to do anything.....

techrights-news

"New discoveries await..." in the upcoming Inkscape 1.2 About Screen • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162877

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | "New discoveries await..." in the upcoming Inkscape 1.2 About Screen | Tux Machines

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: lol, AGAIN?

DaemonFC

AGAIN!

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: maybe mandy will even take a toilet break, for a change

AdmFubar

maybe still....

DaemonFC

Down with the Clown

schestowitz-TR

no photos... it's on "dad clown"

Mar 22 22:52

schestowitz-TR

"da clown"

Mar 22 22:52

AdmFubar

schestowitz-TR: TMI! o_O

Mar 22 22:53

techrights-news

Notable: The best open-source note-taking and Markdown editor for 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162878

Mar 22 22:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Notable: The best open-source note-taking and Markdown editor for 2022 | Tux Machines

Mar 22 22:56

DaemonFC

Wine made some improvement to the look and feel of Windows applications very recently.

Mar 22 22:57

DaemonFC

They got rid of that really ugly Windows-9x color scheme.

Mar 22 22:57

techrights-news

The bleeding continues; Microsoft is on fire (up in flames) and Windows continues to languish in spite of billions spent on dishonest marketing http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/

Mar 22 22:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows is Dying Despite Vista 11 Hype | Techrights

Mar 22 22:58

techrights-news

Now, with no social control media, I've not touched Konqueror in almost 3 weeks. I used it every day for years prior to it.

techrights-news

Prepping Your Computers For an Internet Outage • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162879

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Prepping Your Computers For an Internet Outage | Tux Machines

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: I added the link about Apple

DaemonFC

I tried out that Walmart+ thing on the gas station today. It worked.

Mar 22 23:00

DaemonFC

I've switched to E15 to run the car off of as well.

Mar 22 23:01

techrights-news

"It's far-future space opera based around an aggressive colonial empire, but follows just one character: an artificial intelligence of one of the empire's military starships." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2020-12-17_ancillary-justice.gmi

Mar 22 23:01

techrights-news

"One interesting behavior of the brute-force program is that it didn't use 100% of the CPU. I found that doing various types of string concatenation caused a big slowdown." gemini://jfh.me/posts/2019-03-04-js-quine.gmi

Mar 22 23:01

DaemonFC

I figure the government may go ahead and mandate E15 gas.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/21/22989563/district-of-columbia-karl-racine-grubhub-lawsuit-misleading-fees

AdmFubar

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | DC sues Grubhub for allegedly deceptive business practices - The Verge

DaemonFC

It is something easy that we can go ahead and do without the cooperation of OPEC.

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/03/22/0026221/mac-studio-storage-not-user-upgradeable-due-to-software-block?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

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AdmFubar

-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: slashdot.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/03/22/0026221/mac-studio-storage-not-user-upgradeable-due-to-software-block?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Mac Studio Storage Not User-Upgradeable Due to Software Block - Slashdot

bnchs__

prepping your computers for an internet outage

https://www.keloland.com/keloland-com-original/big-truck-can-take-big-bucks-to-fill-up/?ipid=promo-link-block4

DaemonFC

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Big truck can take big bucks to fill up | KELOLAND.com

bnchs__

hmmmm how

DaemonFC

Every time high gas prices get here, these idiots with the big trucks (for no reason) act like it's never happened before and was totally impossible to see coming.

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DaemonFC

GM picked a great time to sell them trucks with no Fuel Management Module.

Mar 22 23:05

DaemonFC

So they lose another mile per gallon. :)

Mar 22 23:05

DaemonFC

I don't pay a ton of attention to UK politics, but it looks like Labor just keeps finding ways to lose a ton of seats in every election for about the last decade and a half.

Mar 22 23:09

DaemonFC

So obviously they aren't convincing the majority of the voting public.

Mar 22 23:09

AdmFubar

of course it is a great time... you don't think gm doesn't have any holdings in the oil industry?

Mar 22 23:13

DaemonFC

Don't worry. You get a $50 rebate for not having the FMM, on a $80,000 truck.

Mar 22 23:15

DaemonFC

Ought to get you 20 miles, that.

Mar 22 23:15

activelow

some simple calculus for the math geniuses of EU finance: i lowered consumption of already low hot water and heating down another 20% in two years, yet i didn't receive any refund at all, instead this year monthly costs increased another ~5Euros:

Mar 22 23:25

activelow

what is the annual inflation then for energy?

Mar 22 23:25

activelow

yes: 10% inflation of energy prices in Germany.

schestowitz

DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/

schestowitz

typos?

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights

techrights-news

Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/

Mar 22 23:27

DaemonFC

<activelow> some simple calculus for the math geniuses of EU finance: i lowered consumption of already low hot water and heating down another 20% in two years, yet i didn't receive any refund at all, instead this year monthly costs increased another ~5Euros:

DaemonFC

Same thing happens here.

activelow

those 10% is slightly above average of the *real* inflation (compound interest) i had calculated for energy/food/rents/housing, normalizing against the two currency reforms, this was 30years of 8% annual inflation with compound interest

activelow

DaemonFC: in USA? no in USA energy prices are less than 50% in comparison to Germany.

schestowitz-TR

schestowitz-TR

source?

activelow

schestowitz-TR: petrol stations.

DaemonFC

I meant, same trend pattern.

DaemonFC

You reduce energy consumption, they raise prices.

schestowitz-TR

you're saying equivalent of car petrol is more x2 the price in US _right now_?

DaemonFC

You end up saving nothing.

activelow

anyway, the real joke is European Central Bank and German government, who argue inflation was supposedly ~2% in the last decades; which is nowhere near the real data (given currency reforms east-mark -> west-mark -> euro obfuscated the data)

Mar 22 23:30

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Mar 22 23:30

activelow

of cause, it isn't everyon equally affected by this; particularly those who must pay rent for their flat and spend most of their income for food and energy, those are hit by the ~8% inflation

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activelow

officially, basic income and pensions compensated for inflation; in reality they don't for low-income households because their spendings for the high-inflation products: energy, food, rents

Mar 22 23:32

techrights-news

"Richard Stallman will be speaking about the free software movement and your freedom. His speech will be nontechnical, admission is gratis, and the public is encouraged to attend online." https://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20220413-online

Mar 22 23:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

Mar 22 23:32

activelow

yet the real concern is this: if the trend continues, and i do not see how glorious EU or german government took any action yet

Mar 22 23:33

activelow

to cut spendings in the gigantic bureaucratic apparatus of theirs somewhere, which they probably can't anyway, because social peace

Mar 22 23:33

techrights-news

Java 18 Introduces Features to Enable New Developers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162862#comment-33158

Mar 22 23:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle Announces Java 18 | Tux Machines

Mar 22 23:35

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Torvalds: "So it smells like there's something bad going on in f2fs." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wgsmvoJFKFWxQ2orEVUOWH1agk9iUNZ=-DFh5OXZL=Ldw@mail.gmail.com/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | Re: [GIT PULL] f2fs for 5.18 - Linus Torvalds

MinceR

22 222442 < psydruid> windows is irrelevant and dying

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NVIDIA 510.60.02 Linux Driver Released https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/187162/en-us

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver | 510.60.02 | Linux 64-bit | NVIDIA

MinceR

unfortunately it laid its eggs in Linux and GNU

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GNU Parallel 20220322 (’Маріу́поль’) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162880

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Parallel 20220322 ('Маріу́поль') | Tux Machines