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Ariadnethe point is that rust does introduce practical features that are far more interesting than memory safetyJul 26 00:00
MinceRwho eats soap, though?Jul 26 00:00
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matey/me belches suds and looks away sheepishlyJul 26 00:00
MinceRlolJul 26 00:00
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Ariadnebut i don't think converting C codebases to rust is a winnerJul 26 00:00
Ariadneyou just wind up with worst of both worldsJul 26 00:01
MinceRoh, i forgot that rust is also unstableJul 26 00:01
MinceRso you get another method of wasting your own effortJul 26 00:01
mateyhave you ported your entire codebase for the cargo cult today?Jul 26 00:01
Ariadnewell, they kind of have stability nowJul 26 00:01
Ariadnewith editionsJul 26 00:01
AriadneidkJul 26 00:01
MinceRthat's an improvementJul 26 00:01
mateyso their instability is containerised Jul 26 00:01
MinceRwho knows, maybe one of these decades it will be somewhat practicalJul 26 00:01
mateydocker would be proudJul 26 00:01
MinceRlolJul 26 00:01
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MinceRdo cgroups support pride reliably yet? :>Jul 26 00:02
mateycocgroupsJul 26 00:02
mateya wonderful litmus test for stability in the world of free software isJul 26 00:04
mateyfinish this sentence: "at least we have..."Jul 26 00:04
matey(booze)Jul 26 00:04
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matey/me wonders how our supply of litmus is doingJul 26 00:05
XRevan86Ariadne: So in-ear monitors are just headphones?Jul 26 00:05
DaemonFCIf something is to be taken seriously, all programs ever written in it should remain valid in any future compiler.Jul 26 00:05
AriadneXRevan86: a specific kind of headphone yesJul 26 00:06
XRevan86Ariadne: Which is the most banal set-up ever…Jul 26 00:06
mateyi dont like litmus, it has a cilantro-like aftertasteJul 26 00:06
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DaemonFCI don't like the idea of major breaking changes.Jul 26 00:06
XRevan86Ariadne: if that gives you problems on PipeWire, then that's definitely concerning. Which codec do they use by the way (shows in pavucontrol for instance)?Jul 26 00:06
DaemonFCEverything should be backwards compatible.Jul 26 00:06
matey11 Kinds of Animal Poop Hunters Should Know | Field & StreamJul 26 00:07
matey/me wonders which animals they list, and didnt know they were poop huntersJul 26 00:07
mateybull is definitely on the listJul 26 00:08
mateypoop hunters probably sell their catch to the gardening industryJul 26 00:08
Ariadnedunno, will check next time i need themJul 26 00:10
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mateyif youre ever trying to ship a couple tonnes of manure over natinal bordersJul 26 00:11
mateyjust mail it, dont put it in suitcasesJul 26 00:11
mateyno matter what you think, its really not fun explaining "its bullshit, its not bullshit" to customsJul 26 00:13
XRevan86Ariadne: Also if *everything* Bluetooth is causing PipeWire to choke, then your WirePlumber doesn't have rtprio.Jul 26 00:14
XRevan86Both PipeWire and WirePlumber need niceness and rtprio.Jul 26 00:14
XRevan86That's one of the big differences with PulseAudio which on the contrary could extend latency indefinitely just to avoid any choking, and as such can work with normal privileges.Jul 26 00:15
XRevan86Don't know how that applies to Bluetooth, probably badly.Jul 26 00:18
mateythe word pocket comes from french poque (bag) and -ette (small)Jul 26 00:20
mateysmall bagJul 26 00:20
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britneymatey, what desktop do you run on openbsd?Jul 26 01:10
matey[19~hi britneyJul 26 01:23
mateyive used several, but the only one i recommend is dwmJul 26 01:23
mateyid actually recommend a bunch of them, including icewmJul 26 01:24
mateybut you know... githubJul 26 01:24
mateydwm has a learning curve (not for people here, for noobs)Jul 26 01:24
mateybut once you get the basics its hard to tolerate alternativesJul 26 01:24
mateyunless you prefer something shiny like awesome or something like thatJul 26 01:24
matey"come out caboose! all we want to do is shoot you..."Jul 26 01:26
matey[caboose] "dont listen to them... its a trick!"Jul 26 01:27
bagirai3-gaps is where the magic is atJul 26 01:30
bagiraits a fork of i3 with feature parity outside of the ability to put space between windowsJul 26 01:31
bagiraand then rofi for the window and dunst for notifierJul 26 01:31
bagirai said that badly: rofi for the dmenu replacementJul 26 01:31
britneymatey, thats coolJul 26 01:33
bagiraid like to see a pure C rewrite of i3 tbhJul 26 01:53
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mateysadly the person most likely to rewrite i3 in pure c left because i joked about killing a fuckload of germansJul 26 02:01
mateybut its not like he was actually going to botherJul 26 02:01
matey/me checks what percentages of each language i3 isJul 26 02:04
matey C 58.6%Jul 26 02:05
mateyPerl 38.5%Jul 26 02:05
mateyShell 0.7%Jul 26 02:05
mateyMeson 0.7%Jul 26 02:05
mateyRuby 0.7%Jul 26 02:05
mateyPython 0.5%Jul 26 02:05
mateyOther 0.3%Jul 26 02:05
britneyit would be awesome if there was a DE written in GolangJul 26 02:14
britney<matey> sadly the person most likely to rewrite i3 in pure c left because i joked about killing a fuckload of germans   <--- that was lulzJul 26 02:14
mateyi realise thompson worked/s on golang, and thats coolJul 26 02:16
mateybut ive never liked what google does to languages or libraries at allJul 26 02:16
mateyso why are people so into golangJul 26 02:16
mateygoogle made it clear years ago that go was THEIR language, NOT that of the communityJul 26 02:17
mateynot that i think a community always knows what to do with a languageJul 26 02:17
mateybut i dont trust google more than themJul 26 02:17
britneyfor me its great because i dont have to touch gccJul 26 02:18
britneyC style syntax, garbage collection, fast compilationJul 26 02:19
mateywhy dont you want to use gccJul 26 02:19
britneycuz gcc is a piece of shitJul 26 02:20
mateyokJul 26 02:20
mateyi was hoping for something slightly more elaborateJul 26 02:20
britneygo has an awesome compilerJul 26 02:20
britneylol there really isnt a good reason to hate gccJul 26 02:20
mateythat works tooJul 26 02:20
britneyis it hosted on github? lolJul 26 02:21
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britneyjust checked, its notJul 26 02:23
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mateyno?Jul 26 02:24
mateyhttps://github.com/golang/goJul 26 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - golang/go: The Go programming languageJul 26 02:24
britneyi was talking about gccJul 26 02:24
mateyIssues 5k+  Pull requests 285Jul 26 02:24
mateygcc is hosted by ibm instead :/Jul 26 02:24
mateysourceware.orgJul 26 02:25
britneyICBMJul 26 02:25
mateythe main competitor to gcc, llvm, is also githubJul 26 02:25
matey(i)ts (b)asically (m)icrosoftJul 26 02:25
britneyyou use gcc on openbsd?Jul 26 02:25
mateyi dont write in cJul 26 02:25
mateyive used llvm in openbsd, yesJul 26 02:26
britneysometimes you might have to compile somethingJul 26 02:26
mateyyes i compiled python 2Jul 26 02:26
mateybecause pypy2 was not availableJul 26 02:27
mateyat least not on the arch i wanted.Jul 26 02:27
TheRealPhanesthere are plenty of reasons to hate on gccJul 26 02:27
mateyits hosted and controlled by ibmJul 26 02:27
TheRealPhanesits a big bloaty thing held together by duct tape and bubble gum, and to do anything cool with it you need to edit its source code instead of pass sane huma-readable switches to itJul 26 02:28
mateydefine (or give example) of "anything cool with it"Jul 26 02:28
TheRealPhanesthey dont balance the complexity of feature interaction with the frequency that feature is actually used eitherJul 26 02:28
mateythey dont balance the complexity of feature interaction with the frequency that feature is actually used either <- gnu isnt very big on designJul 26 02:29
matey"it does cool stuff"Jul 26 02:29
matey"really, how"Jul 26 02:29
matey"i dont fucking know, we just... it does"Jul 26 02:29
mateygranted a lot of designs are terrible and the fact that theyre a design doesnt always change the worldJul 26 02:31
TheRealPhanesGCC: Swiss army knives are for chumps.  Use an enigma machine without reliable documentation.Jul 26 02:32
mateyto be fair thoughJul 26 02:32
mateyor perhaps crazyJul 26 02:32
mateygcc seems a lot more forkable than gcc, by virtue of the fact that you can still bootstrap itJul 26 02:32
mateytry bootstrapping llvm sometimeJul 26 02:33
MinceR26 031648 < matey> so why are people so into golangJul 26 02:33
MinceRbecause c++ is too difficult for them to learnJul 26 02:33
britneyc++ is trash thoJul 26 02:33
britneyyou mean C is hardJul 26 02:33
mateyc++ is important because it has the power to bring everyone togetherJul 26 02:33
mateyagainst itJul 26 02:33
britneylol mateyJul 26 02:34
AdmFubarhttps://techxplore.com/news/2022-07-surveillance-pervasive.htmlJul 26 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techxplore.com | Surveillance is pervasive: Yes, you are being watched, even if no one is looking for youJul 26 02:34
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britneyi've tried to teach myself programming many times with many different languagesJul 26 02:38
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mateyi think its sad that stallman never envisioned a future where corporations would do everything in their power to run free software projects via manipulation and other dirty tricksJul 26 02:38
britneyBasic, Turing, PHP, Python, C++, CJul 26 02:38
mateyand that the license wouldnt MAGICALLY fix all thatJul 26 02:39
britneymy favourites so far are Golang and CJul 26 02:39
mateyhes a pretty smart guy-- he could have seen this comingJul 26 02:39
britneyC was fun until I got to pointersJul 26 02:39
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mateyespecially with help from people saying Watch Out! This Is Whats Happening!Jul 26 02:39
matey"no, you see, the license magically fixes all that"Jul 26 02:39
mateyim not saying its the license... but its the licenseJul 26 02:40
britneyI liked C a lot better than C++, C++ was too complicatedJul 26 02:40
mateybritney: is go your favourite language?Jul 26 02:40
britneyprobably because its OOPJul 26 02:40
britneymatey, yeah I would say Go is my favourite, and C is my #2Jul 26 02:41
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britneyi think that python, java and c++ are trashJul 26 02:42
mateywhats wrong with pythonJul 26 02:42
mateygranted i think python 3 is blechJul 26 02:42
britneyi dont like how it enforces whitespace, go on the other hand will fix your whitespace for youJul 26 02:42
mateyhow does go fix whitespaceJul 26 02:43
britneyyou run "go fmt" on your whatever.go file and it'll fix the formattingJul 26 02:43
mateycoolJul 26 02:43
MinceRhy fixes the whitespace and multiline lambda issues of pythonJul 26 02:43
mateyive worked on two different ways to avoid whitespace in pythonJul 26 02:44
MinceRbut common lisp is even betterJul 26 02:44
britneyi think i'd rather use basic than pythonJul 26 02:44
britneybasic was kinda funJul 26 02:44
mateyi used basic for 25 years Jul 26 02:44
britneyqb64.orgJul 26 02:44
mateyyeah i started modifying qb64 to output python instead of c++Jul 26 02:44
britneyoopsJul 26 02:44
britneyhttps://qb64.com/Jul 26 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-QB64.com | QB64 is a modern extended BASIC programming language that retains QBasic/QuickBASIC 4.5 compatibility and compiles native binaries for Windows, Linux, and macOS.Jul 26 02:44
britneylol really?Jul 26 02:45
mateybritney: do you ever code just for funJul 26 02:45
mateyor only when you have an important taskJul 26 02:45
britneyso far its been out of boredom lolJul 26 02:45
mateythat countsJul 26 02:45
britneyfor fun i guessJul 26 02:45
britneyi dont really have important tasks that require programmingJul 26 02:46
mateyis ther a way to contact you via email?Jul 26 02:46
britneythere is always a program that solves a problem i haveJul 26 02:46
britneyyeahJul 26 02:46
mateyfel free to pm if you dont want your addy loggedJul 26 02:46
mateyill reply by email, not pmJul 26 02:46
MinceRlol @ basicJul 26 02:46
mateyhey, basic had an important role in programming historyJul 26 02:47
mateyill email shortlyJul 26 02:47
britneybasic can be fun lolJul 26 02:47
MinceRyeah, its role is that of the deterrent exampleJul 26 02:49
MinceRthough cobol did it betterJul 26 02:49
britneyNobody codes in ruby anymore(TM)Jul 26 02:50
MinceRyeah, because python does the same thing with less uglinessJul 26 02:50
MinceRand was there earlier :>Jul 26 02:51
britneythe only thing people  use ruby for is getting homebrew on macJul 26 02:51
britneyi suppose i should learn python so that i have a scripting language under my beltJul 26 02:54
britneyits either that or javascriptJul 26 02:54
TheRealPhanesruby was always fuzz and everyone outside of it knew it was fuzzJul 26 02:55
TheRealPhanestoo many guardrails, it was just too overengineered to be productiveJul 26 02:56
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britneyRuby... On Rails!Jul 26 02:59
britneyrails of cokeJul 26 03:00
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matey i suppose i should learn python so that i have a scripting language under my belt <- learn python 2 so you can hear a bunch of fanboys tell you its "not maintained" every day of your life for the next n yearsJul 26 03:06
MinceRlolJul 26 03:07
mateypython 2 is maintained... pypy2 is not abandoned like cpython2 isJul 26 03:07
MinceRit's not difficult to know both python2 and python3Jul 26 03:07
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mateyhttps://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.htmlJul 26 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org | ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software FreedomJul 26 03:07
mateybut its STABLE, so most corporations (and the orgs theyve purchased for themselves) treat any stable language as "dead" nowJul 26 03:08
MinceRnot a sunrise, but a galaxy-riseJul 26 03:08
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mateybillions and billions of features :/Jul 26 03:08
MinceR:>Jul 26 03:08
matey/me pictures it under a mcdonalds signJul 26 03:08
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mateyor rather on the sign, under the giant (\/)Jul 26 03:09
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techrights-news"Graham played with a Steam Deck, Will switched to Firefox, Félim cleaned up his home directory, and Joe obsessed over battery health. Plus Copilot follow-up, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-187/Jul 26 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 187 – Late Night LinuxJul 26 03:20
britneymatey, nah it would be python 3Jul 26 03:21
techrights-news"We continue our introduction to Linux series with what you need to get started. From making bootable media through trying the live environment, installing and getting new software applications" https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp427Jul 26 03:21
britneyi wanna be a haxx0r like Mr RobotJul 26 03:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-goinglinux.com | Going Linux · ShownotesJul 26 03:21
mateyim gonna go out on a limb and say you can hack things in python 2 as wellJul 26 03:21
mateyare you familiar with the idea of turing completeness?Jul 26 03:22
britneybut python isn't maintained!!11!1!Jul 26 03:22
britneypython2Jul 26 03:22
matey but python isn't maintained!!11!1! <- lolJul 26 03:23
britneypython2 Jul 26 03:23
mateycorporate propagandaJul 26 03:23
AdmFubarfrom the Intel ooopsie doodles dept.  https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-100x-performance-ray-tracingJul 26 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Coding Mistake Made Intel GPUs 100X Slower in Ray Tracing | Tom's HardwareJul 26 03:23
mateyhttps://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/faq.html#is-pypy-a-drop-in-replacement-for-cpythonJul 26 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doc.pypy.org | Frequently Asked Questions — PyPy documentationJul 26 03:25
mateyhttps://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/faq.html#which-python-version-2-x-does-pypy-implementJul 26 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doc.pypy.org | Frequently Asked Questions — PyPy documentationJul 26 03:25
mateyit really fucks me off that people who care about backwards compatibility are lied to about it by the python foundationJul 26 03:25
mateyand a million fuckers parrot the lieJul 26 03:25
techrights-news"We are back with our usual monthly update! Boiling Steam looks at the latest data dumps from ProtonDB to give you a quick list of new games that work (pretty much? see ratings) perfectly with Proton since they were released in June 2022 – all of them work out of the box or well enough with tweaks..." https://boilingsteam.com/top-15-new-games-to-play-on-linux-with-proton-july-2022-edition/Jul 26 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Top 11 New Games to Play on Linux with Proton – July 2022 Edition - Boiling SteamJul 26 03:26
mateytheres a solution for people who want python 2Jul 26 03:26
mateyinstead of advertising it, python tries to have a version monopoly by trying to force people to use 3 insteadJul 26 03:26
britneymatey, a final solution?Jul 26 03:26
mateyi mean theres a solid option but people are told there isnt oneJul 26 03:27
mateythats dirtyJul 26 03:27
britneyi dont see why i shouldnt learn the latest python and not the old oneJul 26 03:27
mateyyou should learn whatever version you wantJul 26 03:27
mateywhat im saying is, python 3 imo isnt a fun languageJul 26 03:27
mateyall the python 3 coders disagreeJul 26 03:27
mateybut i switched to python 2 because it was the closest langauge i could find to basicJul 26 03:28
*TheRealPhanes enjoys python3Jul 26 03:28
mateywell youre enterpriseJul 26 03:28
*TheRealPhanes is now known as phanesJul 26 03:28
mateyi think python 3 is too enterprise-centricJul 26 03:28
mateyfirst, google went and made python 3 for google. not my personal favourite. makes me less inclined to try goJul 26 03:28
mateynow, guido works for microsoftJul 26 03:28
mateythats even worse than google having their way with itJul 26 03:29
MinceRand that's my #1 gripe with pythonJul 26 03:29
mateyso really, python 3 is the version ill never trust-- because if i do, theyll just make it worseJul 26 03:29
matey<MinceR> and that's my #1 gripe with python <- right?Jul 26 03:29
mateyi like python 2 because 1. its stableJul 26 03:29
techrights-news"Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 745 for the week of July 17 – 23, 2022." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/07/25/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-745/ https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/07/25/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-745/Jul 26 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 745Jul 26 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 745Jul 26 03:29
MinceRalso, pretty much any new language is vulnerable to corporate takeoversJul 26 03:29
matey2. its got all the features i could wantJul 26 03:29
matey3. IT IS MAINTAINED (damned dirty liars)Jul 26 03:30
mateyjust not by tpfJul 26 03:30
mateyalso, pretty much any new language is vulnerable to corporate takeovers <- sad but trueJul 26 03:30
mateyall the more reason not to use a new one.Jul 26 03:30
mateybesides, its probably on github Jul 26 03:30
matey(pypy2 isnt btw)Jul 26 03:30
matey(neither is pypy3)Jul 26 03:30
britneylolJul 26 03:30
britneyso python is controlled by microsoft now?Jul 26 03:30
mateyso pypy is the github-free cpython-like thingJul 26 03:31
matey so python is controlled by microsoft now? <- python was created by guido. guido moved to google. then microsoft literally hired him.Jul 26 03:31
mateyso yeah, its microsoft pythonJul 26 03:31
mateyor if you likeJul 26 03:31
mateymicrosoft microsoft python :/Jul 26 03:31
mateybut pypy2 isnt (neither is pypy3)Jul 26 03:31
britneywell then, maybe i wont learn python at allJul 26 03:31
mateybelieve me, i dont expect people to join my little crusade. kuhn is just faking it for sfc website hits.Jul 26 03:31
britneyLOLJul 26 03:32
mateybut if they DID care about my criteriaJul 26 03:32
mateypypy fixes a lot of the problems.Jul 26 03:32
britneyi was just joking about basicJul 26 03:32
britneycuz its old lolJul 26 03:32
phanesoh wow they're gonna kill off the once piece managa in 3 yearsJul 26 03:32
britneyi dont really want any microsoft programming languagesJul 26 03:32
phanes*one pieceJul 26 03:32
mateyits "experienced"Jul 26 03:32
MinceR26 043150 < britney> well then, maybe i wont learn python at allJul 26 03:33
MinceRlearn common lisp insteadJul 26 03:33
phanesyou should learn python before lispJul 26 03:33
matey they're gonna kill off the one piece manga <- is that like a specific title? only it sounds more like a format.Jul 26 03:33
britneycommon lisp?Jul 26 03:33
mateyis there an uncommon lisp?Jul 26 03:33
britneyi heard lisp was hardJul 26 03:33
phanesits also almost useless for making money or doing things that other people will literally ever useJul 26 03:34
phanesits embedded in some tools and that comes in handy, but i wouldn't treat it as more than nicheJul 26 03:34
AdmFubarlisp is short for lots of irritating spurious parentheses Jul 26 03:34
britneylolJul 26 03:34
MinceR26 043344 < matey> is there an uncommon lisp?Jul 26 03:35
mateyyou can always just to tiobe and use whatever language is NUMBER ONEJul 26 03:35
MinceRindeed most of them are uncommonJul 26 03:35
MinceRscheme is uncommon, emacs lisp is uncommon, hy is uncommonJul 26 03:35
techrights-newsWTH? They seem to have no presence online except Microsoft proprietary software prison https://www.phoronix.com/news/NsCDE-2.2-Desktop-ReleasedJul 26 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NsCDE 2.2 Released As Retro Desktop Inspired By Unix's CDE - PhoronixJul 26 03:35
britneyis lisp a scripting language?Jul 26 03:35
techrights-newsThe best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for you • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167667Jul 26 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for you | Tux MachinesJul 26 03:35
MinceRdepends on the definition, i guessJul 26 03:35
AdmFubarNsCDE reminds me of Amiga's WorkbenchJul 26 03:36
MinceRmost REPLs are willing to evaluate forms from a text file for youJul 26 03:36
phanesI place lisp in that same category as Lua of obscure-but-occasionally-useful languagesJul 26 03:36
techrights-newsRe: [PATCH 0/2] signal: Last two bits for PREEMPT_RT - Sebastian Andrzej Siewior ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yt668pH5WpWkiPyG@linutronix.de/ ䷉ Source: linutronix | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yt668pH5WpWkiPyG@linutronix.de/Jul 26 03:36
mateyno, scripting languages are stupid things, and lisp is a programming language, which transcends all upper and lower level coding.Jul 26 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | Re: [PATCH 0/2] signal: Last two bits for PREEMPT_RT - Sebastian Andrzej SiewiorJul 26 03:36
matey(i use scripting languages, im parodying attitudes towards them)Jul 26 03:36
matey<MinceR> most REPLs <- see im not the only one who says repl, only now you know what it isJul 26 03:36
MinceR:>Jul 26 03:37
techrights-newsopenMandriva 5.0-tp is ready https://www.openmandriva.org/Jul 26 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openmandriva.org | OpenMandrivaJul 26 03:37
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=hHYQz7fWpvsJul 26 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Rebel Rebel (2014 Remaster) - InvidiousJul 26 03:38
techrights-newsIstio / Announcing Istio 1.13.6 ⚓ https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.13.x/announcing-1.13.6/ Istio 1.14.2 patch release. https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.14.x/announcing-1.14.2/Jul 26 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.6Jul 26 03:39
mateyrepl without a causeJul 26 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Announcing Istio 1.14.2Jul 26 03:39
MinceRdoes having a program that builds and runs any C program passed to it make C a scripting language?Jul 26 03:40
techrights-newsFour workers arrive at a construction site ... https://blogs.kde.org/2022/07/25/four-workers-arrive-construction-siteJul 26 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Four workers arrive at a construction site ... | blogs.kde.orgJul 26 03:40
mateyit depends who you askJul 26 03:40
mateywhen people were using tinycc, this came upJul 26 03:40
matey"you can use it as a scripting language"Jul 26 03:41
mateythe line is a bit arbitraryJul 26 03:41
mateyand either used to denote convenience, or just how everyone who uses this sucks at coding and we should make fun of themJul 26 03:41
mateya convenient tool goes through at least 3 stages of acceptanceJul 26 03:42
mateymaybe 4Jul 26 03:42
matey1. only noobs use it and theyre happyJul 26 03:42
techrights-newsPractical Guide to Using End-to-end Encryption (E2EE) on Linux ⚓ https://linuxsecurity.com/features/practical-guide-to-using-end-to-end-encryption-e2ee-on-linuxJul 26 03:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | Practical Guide to Using End-to-end Encryption (E2EE) on LinuxJul 26 03:42
matey2. people make fun of noobs for using it, then theyre happy because they use a REAL languageJul 26 03:42
matey3. noobs stop using it, telling other noobs its not a real languageJul 26 03:43
techrights-newsLabeling a Linux Kernel RPM | Adam Young’s Web Log ⚓ https://adam.younglogic.com/2022/07/labeling-a-linux-kernel-rpm/ ䷉ Source: adam young | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//adam.younglogic.com/2022/07/labeling-a-linux-kernel-rpm/Jul 26 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adam.younglogic.com | Labeling a Linux Kernel RPM | Adam Young's Web LogJul 26 03:43
matey4. someone who knows everything about real language points out why thats a childish attitude, and why the noob-friendly thing is actually superior in x y z waysJul 26 03:43
matey5. nobody gives a shit what kind of tool it is anymore, and uses it anyway, and theyre happyJul 26 03:43
matey6. microsoft or google take it over and its trash and ruined foreverJul 26 03:44
matey7. someone implements it in javascriptJul 26 03:44
britneylol javascriptJul 26 03:44
mateypython has been through all of these stages, and is sure to prove its actually a cycleJul 26 03:44
MinceR:>Jul 26 03:44
techrights-news"In typical applications, the optimal mirror is as flat as possible. The flatter the mirror, the less optical distortion it imparts onto the reflected “image.”" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/25/a-diy-thermally-actuated-deformable-mirror/Jul 26 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | A DIY thermally actuated deformable mirror | Arduino BlogJul 26 03:44
techrights-newsPerl Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers in dc http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/07/perl-weekly-challenge-174-disarium-numbers-in-dc.htmlJul 26 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers in dc | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]Jul 26 03:45
phaneslol @ 7Jul 26 03:46
phanesthey'll take over the world one dayJul 26 03:46
britneymatey, so someone has implemented python in javascript?Jul 26 03:46
techrights-newsWho to blame when sales are weak https://puri.sm/posts/the-ball-and-supply-chain-part-2/Jul 26 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | The Ball and Supply Chain Part 2 – PurismJul 26 03:47
mateygnome 13 will require a processor with a dedicated jspuJul 26 03:47
techrights-news"I started creating the User model in the last update. By now, I have migrated the whole User model to the Database from the GSettings and refactored the codebase accordingly." https://dev.to/amankrx/gsoc-mid-term-report-for-health-medJul 26 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.to | GSoC mid term report for Health - DEV CommunityJul 26 03:48
britneylolJul 26 03:48
mateyand stallmans clone (who in a fit of irony, is named STEVE) will try to port libre.js to assemblyJul 26 03:48
MinceRhas someone implemented javascript in javascript yet?Jul 26 03:48
matey"how is that a fit of irony?"Jul 26 03:48
matey"his middle name is jobs"Jul 26 03:48
matey"and he was cloned using an ipad 28"Jul 26 03:49
techrights-newsAbout Kernel Symbol Table, Compilation, and more - Maíra Canal ⚓ https://mairacanal.github.io/kernel-symbol-table-compilation-more/Jul 26 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mairacanal.github.io | About Kernel Symbol Table, Compilation, and more - Maíra CanalJul 26 03:50
mateyby a dr garrett, phd in biologyJul 26 03:50
techrights-newsAn Introduction to Go Scheduler | Developer.com ⚓ https://www.developer.com/languages/go-scheduler/ ䷉ Source: developer | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.developer.com/languages/go-scheduler/Jul 26 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Introduction to Go Scheduler | Developer.comJul 26 03:51
MinceR"I've got a PhD in pain and a master's in disaster"Jul 26 03:51
techrights-newsno trust in black box ai ⚓ http://web.elastic.org/~fche/blog4/posts/no_trust_in_black_box_ai/ ䷉ Source: web | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//web.elastic.org/~fche/blog4/posts/no_trust_in_black_box_ai/Jul 26 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.elastic.org | no trust in black box aiJul 26 03:51
mateygnu.jsJul 26 03:52
mateya 100% free operating system, written entirely in javascriptJul 26 03:52
techrights-newsThe past and future of open hardware https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/25/Open-hardware-graveyard.htmlJul 26 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | The past and future of open hardwareJul 26 03:53
mateybrought to you mozilla, who totally did it just to fuck with youJul 26 03:53
mateymicrosoft: "get ready for wsl 20"Jul 26 03:54
britneywith GnomeOS as the base OSJul 26 03:54
mateysystemd-firefoxdJul 26 03:54
techrights-newsThis is openwashing; "support for open source" isn't the same as Open Source or Free software. It's just keyword stuffing. https://venturebeat.com/2022/07/25/nvidia-ai-enterprise-2-1-bolsters-support-for-open-source/Jul 26 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nvidia AI Enterprise 2.1 bolsters support for open source | VentureBeatJul 26 03:54
MinceRsystemd.jsJul 26 03:54
MinceR"finally it's not in C anymore"Jul 26 03:54
britneyall the drivers are written in rustJul 26 03:55
mateyhuh, i cant close my browserJul 26 03:55
mateyfirefox is shutting down...Jul 26 03:55
MinceRlolJul 26 03:55
MinceRstay tuned for systemd.NETJul 26 03:55
MinceR(in visual basic)Jul 26 03:56
techrights-newsVirtio-net failover: An introduction ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/virtio-net-failover-introduction ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/virtio-net-failover-introductionJul 26 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Virtio-net failover: An introductionJul 26 03:56
mateyazure codiumJul 26 03:56
britneydon't forget powershelldJul 26 03:56
matey2015: FINALLY, an init that doesnt require shell scripts!Jul 26 03:56
matey2025: systemd implements a scripting language Jul 26 03:57
MinceRthat's systemd-powershelld to you, misterJul 26 03:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▅▂▄▇▅▆▆▅▆▅▃▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 30.28 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.66▕ swarm size (avg): 123.21  ⟲Jul 26 03:59
techrights-newsPostgres is most transformative open source technology since Linux: EnterpriseDB ⚓ https://www.dqindia.com/postgres-is-most-transformative-open-source-technology-since-linux-enterprisedb/ ䷉ Source: dqindia | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.dqindia.com/postgres-is-most-transformative-open-source-technology-since-linux-enterprisedb/Jul 26 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dqindia.com | Postgres is most transformative open source technology since Linux: EnterpriseDBJul 26 04:02
britneyim watching mental outlaw setup gentoo on a 32 core threadripperJul 26 04:03
techrights-news288: 17 Cool & Fun Linux Commands - Destination Linux - TuxDigital ⚓ https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-288/ ䷉ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-288/Jul 26 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-288: 17 Cool & Fun Linux Commands - Destination Linux - TuxDigitalJul 26 04:04
MinceRhi watching mental outlaw setup gentoo on a 32 core threadripper, i'm dadJul 26 04:05
techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, July 25, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextJul 26 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesJul 26 04:07
techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingJul 26 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexJul 26 04:07
mateywat ching sounds chineseJul 26 04:08
MinceR:>Jul 26 04:08
mateymplayer ported to gnu.js https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BoXu6QmxpJE (may not play smoothly)Jul 26 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Wang Chung - Everybody Have Fun Tonight (Official Video) - InvidiousJul 26 04:10
mateyi opened a ticketJul 26 04:10
techrights-news"There are 2606 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 2020 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiJul 26 04:14
techrights-newsEnd of this month there might be 42k Gemini pages in Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/Jul 26 04:16
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167668Jul 26 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 26 04:16
techrights-newsAudiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167669Jul 26 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night Linux | Tux MachinesJul 26 04:16
techrights-news"Well, the popularity of blogging websites has increased multifold times. With this, the Ghost CMS has currently become one of the most popular open source blogging platforms around." https://unixcop.com/ghost-cms-the-security-features-that-you-need-to-know-about/Jul 26 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unixcop.com | Ghost CMS: The Security Features that you Need to Know About - Unix / Linux the admins TutorialsJul 26 04:19
techrights-newsAdding Linux To A Windows Laptop - PC Perspective ⚓ https://pcper.com/2022/07/adding-linux-to-a-windows-laptop/ ䷉ Source: pcper | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//pcper.com/2022/07/adding-linux-to-a-windows-laptop/Jul 26 04:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pcper.com | Adding Linux To A Windows Laptop - PC PerspectiveJul 26 04:20
techrights-newsFailures Compiling Profanity from Source gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220725.gmiJul 26 04:23
britney<MinceR> hi watching mental outlaw setup gentoo on a 32 core threadripper, i'm dad   <---- :/Jul 26 04:24
mateytechnically thats a dad jokeJul 26 04:25
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dad_jokeJul 26 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dad joke - WikipediaJul 26 04:26
matey"Many dad jokes may be considered anti-jokes, deriving humor from an intentionally not funny punchline."Jul 26 04:26
britneyyeahJul 26 04:27
techrights-news"It’s pretty simple: if you’re not satisfied, switch to something you like, or even create something and share it with the community." https://afhub.dev/tech/opensource/linux/2022/04/16/what-is-wrong-with-the-linux-community.htmlJul 26 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-afhub.dev | What is Wrong with the Linux CommunityJul 26 04:27
mateyWhose concert costs only 45 cents?Jul 26 04:27
matey50 Cent featuring NickelbackJul 26 04:28
mateyits funny because if you laugh,  youll never be cool ever againJul 26 04:28
mateylolJul 26 04:28
MinceR:>Jul 26 04:28
matey"plateaus are the highest form of flattery"Jul 26 04:29
mateywhat did the fish say when he swam into the wall?Jul 26 04:30
mateydam!Jul 26 04:30
techrights-news"My vitamin D wasn’t low during my last few blood tests, as much as it didn’t register. I was warned that it could lead to all sorts of health problems later in life, and could even get me into trouble if I caught something serious like Covid." https://rubenerd.com/vitamin-d/Jul 26 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: (Initial) Vitamin DJul 26 04:30
mateytheyve tried to improve the efficiency of wind farms by playing country music around themJul 26 04:31
mateybut it hasnt worked because theyre really just big heavy metal fansJul 26 04:31
techrights-news"Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says he is open to “sensible” changes to the government’s climate reform, but will not buckle under pressure from the Greens to increase the 43% emissions reduction target. Michael West on Albo’s first two months in office and the looming climate clash." https://michaelwest.com.au/albo-returns-from-his-honeymoon-bumps-into-adam-bandt/Jul 26 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Albanese returns from his honeymoon, bumps into Adam Bandt - Michael WestJul 26 04:31
techrights-newsAudiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night Linux ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/AudiocastsShows:_Destination_Linux,_Going_Linux,_and_Late_Night_Linux.shtml #newsJul 26 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night LinuxJul 26 04:32
techrights-newsThe best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for you ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/The_best_tiling_window_managers_for_Linux,_and_what_they_can_do_for_you.shtml #newsJul 26 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | The best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for youJul 26 04:32
MinceRlolJul 26 04:35
techrights-news165-mile Project Skyway to become the world's longest highway for drones ⚓ https://newatlas.com/drones/project-skyway-worlds-longest-highway-drones/ ䷉ Source: newatlas | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//newatlas.com/drones/project-skyway-worlds-longest-highway-drones/Jul 26 04:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newatlas.com | 165-mile Project Skyway to become the world's longest highway for dronesJul 26 04:35
britneymatey, does smiling count as laughing?Jul 26 04:36
mateysure, when i tell a joke people always say "im laughing on the inside"Jul 26 04:36
techrights-news"The process of writing "good" commit messages is sacrosanct to some developers. A quick search will pop up dozens of articles on "How to Write Good Commit Messages." Proper style? Formatting. Imperative voice. Capitalization. Hard wraps." https://matt-rickard.com/commit-messages-dont-matter/Jul 26 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Commit Messages Don’t MatterJul 26 04:36
britneythen i'll never be cool again :(Jul 26 04:37
mateymaybe notJul 26 04:37
mateybut youll be close enoughJul 26 04:37
britneydamn u and ur 45 cent jokeJul 26 04:37
mateyits worse than that, i just lifted it from the wikipedia article on dad jokesJul 26 04:37
britneylolJul 26 04:38
techrights-newsAnd Pro Publica took bribes from one of them, Bill Gates, so it won't name his crimes (even worse than his tax evasion) https://americansfortaxfairness.org/issue/based-wealth-growth-26-top-billionaires-paid-average-income-tax-rate-just-4-8-6-recent-years/Jul 26 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-americansfortaxfairness.org | BASED ON THEIR WEALTH GROWTH, 26 TOP BILLIONAIRES PAID AN AVERAGE INCOME TAX RATE OF JUST 4.8% OVER 6 RECENT YEARS - Americans For Tax FairnessJul 26 04:38
*darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrightsJul 26 04:38
mateyi consider that a double dad jokeJul 26 04:38
mateybecause theres got to be almost an entire generation now that would say "who?"Jul 26 04:38
mateywith that said, theres a barista i know (they seem to cull 90% of them around age 25 or so) who not only knows OF the b52s but has seen them in concertJul 26 04:39
mateyso that makes me happyJul 26 04:39
britneymatey, how old are you?Jul 26 04:40
mateydef leppard said they have mixed feelings about music downloads-- on the one hand, industry blah blah blah but when they do concerts, they know some of the younger fans are only there because they heard them onlineJul 26 04:40
mateyso therye happy about thatJul 26 04:40
mateyim a little bit older than roy and mjgJul 26 04:40
mateybut not a lotJul 26 04:40
*darwin has quit (connection closed)Jul 26 04:45
mateyFor building PyPy, we recommend installing a pre-built PyPy first (see Downloading and Installing PyPy). It is possible to build PyPy with CPython, but it will take a lot longer to run – depending on your architecture, between two and three times as long.Jul 26 04:46
mateyEven when using PyPy to build PyPy, translation is time-consuming – 30 minutes on a fast machine – and RAM-hungry. You will need at least 2 GB of memory on a 32-bit machine and 4GB on a 64-bit machine.Jul 26 04:47
mateyTo build PyPy on Unix using the C translation backend, you need at least a C compiler and make installed. Further, some optional modules have additional dependencies:Jul 26 04:48
matey    libffi, pkg-configJul 26 04:48
mateydamn that libffiJul 26 04:48
mateylibffi is in practically every fucking languageJul 26 04:49
phanesi wish i had time to learn that side of shitJul 26 04:52
mateywhat sideJul 26 04:53
phanesdeep inside the compiler toolchainJul 26 04:53
phanessorry im passively paying attention while i workJul 26 04:53
mateythats most people here i thinkJul 26 04:54
mateyirc is the worlds laziest hive mindJul 26 04:54
mateyafter twitter, but i dont think it counts Jul 26 04:54
mateyyou have to actually think for it to countJul 26 04:55
phanestwitter is a cesspool Jul 26 04:55
britneyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0nDk2_z2QcJul 26 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=W0nDk2_z2QcJul 26 04:56
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mateywhatJul 26 05:17
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=mXnJqYwebF8Jul 26 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Doja Cat - "Mooo!" (Official Video) - InvidiousJul 26 05:17
mateywtf is thisJul 26 05:17
matey"bitch, im a cow, bitch, im a cow"Jul 26 05:18
matey"mooooooooooooooooooooo"Jul 26 05:18
mateyhow does this even happenJul 26 05:18
matey"ive got an idea for a song"Jul 26 05:18
matey"whats the idea"Jul 26 05:19
matey"its a rap song... but its by a cow"Jul 26 05:19
matey"a cow?"Jul 26 05:19
matey"yeah, bitch: MOOOOOoooooooooo"Jul 26 05:19
mateyshe alsa says "im not a cat"Jul 26 05:20
mateydespite her stage name being doja catJul 26 05:21
mateyso, its settled then. not a cat. a cow. moo.Jul 26 05:21
mateyand i should have known, this another not quite sfw music videoJul 26 05:23
mateyim just gonna start looking for "audio only" for music videos...Jul 26 05:24
britneylolJul 26 05:24
mateyi think i just became straightedge for lifeJul 26 05:26
mateyim afraid to even smoke after seeing thatJul 26 05:27
mateythis one is audio only https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AD_TWloJ310Jul 26 05:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Doja Cat - MOOO! (Audio) - InvidiousJul 26 05:28
mateyfor those who would rather only disbelieve their earsJul 26 05:29
britneymatey, smoke cigarettes or marijuana?Jul 26 05:36
mateyi would never smoke tobaccoJul 26 05:39
britneysmoke weed every day!Jul 26 05:39
mateyand ive never smoked (much) of anythingJul 26 05:39
mateyi really doubt smoking anything every day is healthyJul 26 05:40
mateyif i were going to make it a regular thing id do brownies, tea, that sort of thingJul 26 05:40
mateyits a pretty rare occasion for meJul 26 05:40
mateyin india than have a bhang lassi, that sounds coolJul 26 05:41
britneymy favourite indian food is butter chickenJul 26 05:43
mateybutter chicken is classicJul 26 05:46
britneynew york fries has a dish called butter chicken poutine and its sooooo goodJul 26 05:46
mateythat sounds like an interesting combinationJul 26 05:48
mateyhow much fat is there in poutine?Jul 26 05:48
britneyprobably a lot lolJul 26 05:48
britneycheese is all fatJul 26 05:48
mateyit sounds like maybe two large orders of loaded potato skinsJul 26 05:49
mateyin one servingJul 26 05:49
mateyits not like i only eat health food or somethingJul 26 05:49
mateywhen i used to fly more often there was always this picture at the airport of this steakJul 26 05:49
mateyi used to eat red meat tooJul 26 05:49
mateyit was like 3 or 4 inches tall...Jul 26 05:50
mateytall. and then large in other dimensions as wellJul 26 05:50
mateyand i was likeJul 26 05:50
mateywho the fuck eats that thing?Jul 26 05:50
mateyim sure its delicious... but Jul 26 05:50
mateyit just seemed a bit insaneJul 26 05:51
mateynow i will eat an entire order of loaded potato skins-- not that i have in yearsJul 26 05:51
mateyand butter chicken itself isnt exactly a saladJul 26 05:52
mateyive never had poutine. maybe somedayJul 26 05:53
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britneypoutine is amazingJul 26 05:56
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britneylooks like openbsd doesnt have the latest firefox :/Jul 26 05:59
britneyversion 100Jul 26 05:59
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britneymatey, https://imgur.com/a/6P4xVxKJul 26 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the InternetJul 26 06:09
matey/me frowns at what imgur has turned intoJul 26 06:12
britneyyeah fair enoughJul 26 06:13
mateyi have to enable EVERYTHING to load this. and its still not workingJul 26 06:13
britneyimgur is bloatedJul 26 06:13
britneyhttps://i.imgur.com/y6hJXNL.pngJul 26 06:13
mateyit actually does not workJul 26 06:13
mateyah! a png Jul 26 06:13
mateyfun!Jul 26 06:14
britney:)Jul 26 06:14
mateyis that xfce?Jul 26 06:14
britneyyesJul 26 06:14
mateythey certainly brought their panels up to dateJul 26 06:15
britneyyeah they use gtk3 nowJul 26 06:16
britneyim also using a dark mode themeJul 26 06:17
matey looks goodJul 26 06:17
mateywhats the blue and white icon (outside the emulator) after what has to be the gnome boxes iconJul 26 06:18
mateyalmost looks like a sailJul 26 06:18
mateyoh is that vscodium?Jul 26 06:18
britneyoh yeah lmao!Jul 26 06:22
britneyi was updating my websiteJul 26 06:22
mateyive never seen the vscodium iconJul 26 06:23
britneyit was a good guess thenJul 26 06:23
mateybut i figured it was probably  code editor and i know you run itJul 26 06:23
mateyits funny because if you go all the way back to dosJul 26 06:24
mateyi think i made an icon for qb that looked not entirely unlike that iconJul 26 06:24
mateymaybe 100 years agoJul 26 06:24
britneylolJul 26 06:24
mateythis was before freebasic (let alone qb64) existedJul 26 06:24
britneyits been a while since I've used an icon editorJul 26 06:26
mateyyeah i mean you can just use a regular image editor now and convert to xpm of save as png or make it in inkscapeJul 26 06:26
mateyetcJul 26 06:26
britneymario paint :DJul 26 06:26
mateyif you likeJul 26 06:27
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techrights-newsxkcd: Deepfakes ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2650/ ䷉ Source: xkcd | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//xkcd.com/2650/Jul 26 06:58
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167670https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/howtos_2.shtml #newsJul 26 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 26 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | today's howtosJul 26 07:07
techrights-newsWho why does XNC promote this? "While the original GOLE1 would support Android 5.1 and Windows 10, the new GOLE1 only ships with Windows 11 Pro operating system, and Android has been dropped. Ubuntu and Linux are also listed as supported" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/26/gole1-pro-mini-pc-comes-with-5-5-inch-touch-screen-display-gemini-lake-processor-crowdfunding/Jul 26 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | GOLE1 Pro mini PC comes with 5.5-inch touch screen display, Gemini Lake processor (Crowdfunding) - CNX SoftwareJul 26 07:09
phanesmanJul 26 07:13
phanesRHCS is just a shit productJul 26 07:14
phanesdid someone on the product management team die in between releases or something?Jul 26 07:14
mateyred hat crap show?Jul 26 07:15
schestowitz[TR2]hello world, welcome to the Red Hat "transformetion"Jul 26 07:18
schestowitz[TR2]brought to you by "Enterprisers"Jul 26 07:18
schestowitz[TR2]next up, Ansible TowerJul 26 07:19
techrights-newsDrupal and WordPress are mountains of technical debt and bloat. Instead of getting leaner and faster over time they become CMSs that have far more files than nodes/posts.Jul 26 07:24
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techrights-newsWordPress installations after v3 are remotely controlled by Automattic (the automatic updates), even if you're self-hosting, not using wordpress.comJul 26 07:26
phanesmatey, Red Hat Certificate System yeahJul 26 07:27
phanesive never seen RH stumble so hard understanding their own productJul 26 07:27
schestowitz[TR2]CaaSJul 26 07:28
phanesthen they bury it in literally hundreds of circuitous docs that never actually explain itJul 26 07:28
mateymaybe theyre killing themselves Jul 26 07:29
phanesim willing to call it an engineering failureJul 26 07:29
phanesusually their stuff is kinda bullshit, but this is a new kind of condensed bullshit Jul 26 07:29
mateythis is how an os dies / we did with our shit design / blame it on our ceo, babyJul 26 07:29
phanesgood luck to whoever has to maintain that shitball of automation code I just wrote around it Jul 26 07:30
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mateydid you use rex?Jul 26 07:31
*phanes clenches and pinches off a push to master branchJul 26 07:31
phanesnopeJul 26 07:31
phanesi can't in alot of casesJul 26 07:31
phanesif i integrate rex into some paid endeavours it muddies the ownership watersJul 26 07:31
mateyreasonableJul 26 07:31
mateystallman quit mit for the same reasonJul 26 07:32
mateywhen he started gnuJul 26 07:32
phanesi also dont want to ever answer emails about what i just puked into their scmJul 26 07:32
techrights-newsFedora sours on CC ’No Rights Reserved’ license • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167671Jul 26 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora sours on CC 'No Rights Reserved' license | Tux MachinesJul 26 07:32
phanesi will literally delete them and go silent if someone asks me about itJul 26 07:32
phanesnever againJul 26 07:33
phanesfuckJul 26 07:33
matey :)Jul 26 07:33
mateyusually their stuff is kinda bullshit, but this is a new kind of condensed bullshit <- EBSJul 26 07:34
mateyenterprise bullshitJul 26 07:34
phanesplus i dont consider rex a distributable product at this point until i can convince someone it should be rewritten by a native C++ personJul 26 07:34
phanesit worksJul 26 07:34
phanesbut that sproc code need a rewriteJul 26 07:35
phanesplus im banned af on freenode for a while :DJul 26 07:36
phanesnot freenodeJul 26 07:36
phanesliberiaJul 26 07:36
techrights-newsLinks 26/07/2022: Istio Released, Fedora (IBM) Against CC ‘No Rights Reserved’ | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/istio-released/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/istio-released/Jul 26 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/07/2022: Istio Released, Fedora (IBM) Against CC ‘No Rights Reserved’ | TechrightsJul 26 07:50
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techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167672 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Programming_Leftovers.shtml #newsJul 26 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Programming LeftoversJul 26 07:51
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techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: The Future, the Shortages, and Arduino • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167673https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_HardwareModding:_TheFuture,_the_Shortages,_and_Arduino.shtml #newsJul 26 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: The Future, the Shortages, and Arduino | Tux MachinesJul 26 07:52
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mateyif youre not banned on liberia, you dont have anything to sayJul 26 07:52
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167674https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/leftovers2.shtml #newsJul 26 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | today's leftoversJul 26 07:53
techrights-newsServer: Virtio-net and Istio • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167675https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Server:_Virtio-net_and_Istio.shtml #newsJul 26 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server: Virtio-net and Istio | Tux MachinesJul 26 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Server: Virtio-net and IstioJul 26 07:53
mateygreat plan-- lets move Free as in Speech software to a bottleneck made of knee-jerk neostalinistsJul 26 07:53
mateythat way, people who want to contribute are banned based more or less on regexesJul 26 07:54
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matey"facebook takes mental health problems seriously, thats why theyre actually cracking down on anyone reading hannah arendts report on the banality of evil"Jul 26 08:27
matey :DJul 26 08:27
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psydruidbeing banned on Liberia is a badge of honour and you should wear it proudlyJul 26 08:41
matey/me evaded a ban there SOLELY for an opportunity to get a second ban <3Jul 26 08:43
matey"my boss arrived at work in a new ferrari. i said 'wow, thats an amazing car!'"Jul 26 08:43
matey"he replied, 'if you work hard, put all your hours in, and strive for excellence, ill get another one next year.'"Jul 26 08:44
phanesoh im banned in layersJul 26 08:45
phaneslike their netops keep fingerprint profiles of what "might be me" to look forJul 26 08:45
phanesi love that someone highly skilled is working for free scanning registration logs to kline my alts because god imagine what someone like that would do with their free time Jul 26 08:46
mateyliberia is literally insaneJul 26 08:47
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Monday, July 25, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/irc-log-250722/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/irc-log-250722/Jul 26 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 25, 2022 | TechrightsJul 26 08:47
mateyeither way, its the antithesis of what free software stands forJul 26 08:47
mateyits a service that helps destroy free software. they might as well have a fucking ceoJul 26 08:48
psydruidit's not free softwareJul 26 08:48
psydruidit's where free software goes to die after being subverted by the open source mafiaJul 26 08:50
techrights-newsRe: Revisiting the Web Analytics Rabbit Hole gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-26-re-revisiting-the-web-analytics-rabbit-hole.gmiJul 26 08:50
mateyhey thats a nice application you got thereJul 26 08:50
techrights-news10 Fun Free and Open Source Arcade Games • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167676Jul 26 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Fun Free and Open Source Arcade Games | Tux MachinesJul 26 08:50
mateybe a real shame if we made it impossible to maintain and put microsoft in charge of who could contribute to itJul 26 08:50
mateyyeah it would, red hat. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1x9YACdBUrUJul 26 08:51
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mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=S2uslF4K6fYJul 26 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Why Utopianism Is Good Actually - InvidiousJul 26 09:08
mateynote i dont agree with the title, im pointing to a video that has that titleJul 26 09:09
mateytransforming society by starting with utopianism (which i consider nearly pointless) is like building a house by starting with the roofJul 26 09:10
mateyhave fun with that, but stay the fuck away from the construction siteJul 26 09:11
mateyyoure liable to get someone killedJul 26 09:11
mateyi like the video despite thisJul 26 09:12
mateyi couldnt stand this guy at first but hes actually hilarious (sometimes)Jul 26 09:13
mateythe tillich shit is awesomeJul 26 09:16
mateythis guy loves durkheimJul 26 09:16
mateyactually no, he loves quoting himJul 26 09:17
mateyhe hates durkheim, but he takes ideas he likes from him anywayJul 26 09:17
phanesmatey, i got distracted before i could response.  yeah they're nuts.  at first i was like 'how are they identifying so fast' and then i saw that it was the email domain on the registrationJul 26 09:19
phanesso then i obfuscated that a few times and id leave hints in the passwordJul 26 09:19
phanesand boinJul 26 09:19
phanestested multiple timesJul 26 09:20
phanesand then tested without the password hintJul 26 09:20
phanesgot right throughJul 26 09:20
mateywowJul 26 09:20
mateywaitJul 26 09:21
phanesto them theyre being cleverJul 26 09:21
mateydoesnt that mean theyre storing passwords in plaintextJul 26 09:21
*phanes shrugsJul 26 09:21
mateyhow else would they get your hints?Jul 26 09:21
mateyi mean they shouldnt even be matching... that should be salted or something, how do they get hints from a hash?Jul 26 09:22
phanesif i had to guess WITHOUT VIOLATING AN ACTIVE NDA i would imagine some kind of channel where the services dump toJul 26 09:22
phanesi never shouldve signed that stupid ndaJul 26 09:23
phanesi had already won by that pointJul 26 09:23
phanesmatey, in any case it wasn't the most scientific of tests, so, it could be some other factor im not accounting forJul 26 09:24
phanesi dont believe thatJul 26 09:24
phanesbut it could beJul 26 09:24
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167677Jul 26 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 09:24
mateyby the way, someone gave me an 8000-line log of some freenode thing where i guess you... banned a shitload of people or something?Jul 26 09:25
mateyand i was too tired to look at itJul 26 09:25
phanesi have banned hordes of peopleJul 26 09:25
mateyif i get around to it (not a high priority) you wanna give a quick your-version?Jul 26 09:25
phanessureJul 26 09:25
mateyi think this was a turning point of some kindJul 26 09:25
mateywhere you were relieved as a result. maybeJul 26 09:25
mateyif im being vague i wasnt paying close attention-- i know this around the time it happened, but someone showed it to me like yesterday and i was like yeah, okJul 26 09:26
phanesno i resigned under amicable terms at freenode Jul 26 09:26
mateyi know this around the time  <- i mean i saw it around the time it happenedJul 26 09:26
mateythats good, i supposeJul 26 09:26
mateyfor the purposes of my question it suck though because now id have to sift through that thing just to rephrase the question in a useful wayJul 26 09:27
mateyoh wellJul 26 09:27
mateynot your fault Jul 26 09:27
phanesthere's alot id like to say but need to wait about a year or so moreJul 26 09:27
mateyfair enoughJul 26 09:27
mateyby the way-- and if this is a catch 22 i understand, its not meant to be but how would i knowJul 26 09:27
mateywas there really any fucking need for that nda? i mean in terms of obligation i get your choiceJul 26 09:28
mateyi mean did THEY really need it?Jul 26 09:28
mateyif you cant answer that BECAUSE of said nda, i understandJul 26 09:28
phanesi think it was a prudent choiceJul 26 09:28
mateytheyre such annoying things. i cant imagine theyre 100% useless alwaysJul 26 09:28
mateyalrightJul 26 09:29
mateyi particularly cant stand the one at the fsfJul 26 09:29
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mateyit seems to be killing them Jul 26 09:29
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJul 26 09:30
mateyor maybe im wrong and its the only reason they arent be raided by the fedsJul 26 09:30
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techrights-newsProprietary ☛ https://text.npr.org/1113004433 | Source: NPRJul 26 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Online pricing algorithms are gaming the system, and could mean you pay moreJul 26 09:37
techrights-newsProprietary ☛ https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.825420/full | Source: FrontiersJul 26 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.frontiersin.org | Frontiers | The Impact of Algorithmic Price Discrimination on Consumers’ Perceived BetrayalJul 26 09:37
techrights-news"you’ve been dreading the moment when Big Tech’s all-seeing eyes reappear on people’s heads" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/25/23054367/google-ar-glasses-glassholes-coming-back | Source: The VergeJul 26 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google is trying to fix the mistakes of Google Glass - The VergeJul 26 09:38
techrights-news"[Crackers] used stolen credentials to access a private source code repository and obtain a proprietary access key" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/25/23277161/uber-2016-data-breach-settlement-cover-up | Source: The VergeJul 26 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Uber admits covering up massive 2016 data breach in settlement with US prosecutors - The VergeJul 26 09:38
techrights-news"Science magazine said Thursday that it uncovered evidence that images in the much-cited study" ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/alzheimers-theory-undermined-accusations-fabricated-research-rcna39843 | Source: NBCJul 26 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Alzheimer's theory undermined by accusations of fabricated researchJul 26 09:40
techrights-news"The average price of electricity in Estonia is to increase to €215.56 per megawatt-hour on Tuesday" ☛ https://news.err.ee/1608666877/electricity-to-be-30-times-more-expensive-in-estonia-than-finland-tuesday | Source: Eesti RahvusringhäälingJul 26 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | Electricity to be 30 times more expensive in Estonia than Finland Tuesday | News | ERRJul 26 09:40
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techrights-news"How to turn an open source product into a commercial challenger is no longer a mystery." ☛ https://blog.erlend.sh/open-source-explained |Jul 26 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.erlend.sh | Open Source Explained — Open IndieJul 26 09:54
techrights-news"Gloster is the latest hire to join the cyber office." ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3573401-former-google-executive-to-join-white-house-cyber-office-report/ | Source: The HillJul 26 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Former Google executive to join White House cyber office | The HillJul 26 09:54
techrights-newsCensorship by Saudi Twitter. Twitter should just die. ☛ https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/26/ptzy-j26.html | Source: WSWSJul 26 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | WSWS readers denounce Twitter lockdown of SEP Australia account and in defence of Dr David Berger - World Socialist Web SiteJul 26 09:55
techrights-news"Yesterday morning, a second appeal was submitted, which has also been posted publicly on Twitter by SEP National Secretary Cheryl Crisp. " ☛ https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/26/fevy-j26.html | Source: WSWSJul 26 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | SEP (Australia) files second appeal against Twitter censorship - World Socialist Web SiteJul 26 09:56
techrights-newsDigital Restrictions (DRM) ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streaming-rights.html | Source: New York TimesJul 26 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Why Big Tech Is Making a Big Play for Live Sports - The New York TimesJul 26 09:57
techrights-newsA distraction https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11047649/The-sex-crazed-supernerds-Silicon-Valley-Musks-world-normal-morals-mere-mortals.htmlJul 26 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | The sex-crazed supernerds of Silicon Valley: In Musk's world, normal morals are for mere mortals | Daily Mail OnlineJul 26 09:58
techrights-newsnot dying, it's being choked to death by Google and Microsoft http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240722.html#tJul%2024%2023:36:12Jul 26 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 24, 2022Jul 26 09:59
techrights-news"No, people who are not even "open source" people come along and start infighting, and then leave and let communities collapse." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250722.html#tJul%2025%2002:11:49Jul 26 10:01
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techrights-newsOkay, Google: To Protect Women, Collect Less Data About Everyone - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/24/1413245 ䷉ Source: soylentnews | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/24/1413245Jul 26 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Okay, Google: To Protect Women, Collect Less Data About Everyone - SoylentNewsJul 26 10:02
mateythis is how the french protest things they dont like at work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BossnappingJul 26 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bossnapping - WikipediaJul 26 10:02
mateytheres a lot of places this just wouldnt work, and usually, i dont like the french, butJul 26 10:03
mateythats kind of funJul 26 10:03
schestowitz[TR2]yeahJul 26 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]the french probably don't like you eitherJul 26 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]sometimes I   wonder if the french like thr french :-)Jul 26 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]in epo, the french attack the french tooJul 26 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]mercilessly at timesJul 26 10:04
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schestowitz[TR2]Melinda FrenchJul 26 10:05
schestowitz[TR2]Bill replaced her with Lolita Jul 26 10:05
techrights-newsFetterman ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/fetterman-challenges-ultra-millionaire-dr-oz-live-725-hour | Source: Common DreamsJul 26 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Fetterman Challenges Ultra-Millionaire Dr. Oz to Live on $7.25 an HourJul 26 10:08
techrights-newsSome gangs.. "White House announced that it was expanding the bureau with three new hires, including a former Microsoft executive and a former CIA official" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3573401-former-google-executive-to-join-white-house-cyber-office-report/Jul 26 10:08
matey sometimes I   wonder if the french like thr french <- the french hate everyoneJul 26 10:13
mateybut only because they project their own self-loathing onto everyone elseJul 26 10:13
mateya lot of this stems from their etrnal fued with belgium over who REALLY invented so-called french friesJul 26 10:14
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mateybut the reason they hate americans is differentJul 26 10:15
mateythey hate americans because the french army WAS SUPPOSED to climb out of the statue of liberty and take new yorkJul 26 10:15
mateythe irish got there first, and the french have been REALLY PISSED ever sinceJul 26 10:16
mateythats right, they built a trojan ladyJul 26 10:16
mateybut just like everything else, the irish ruined everything (this is a joke within a joke because i like the irish)Jul 26 10:17
matey(at least a little bit)Jul 26 10:17
matey(i mean i do like enya)Jul 26 10:17
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techrights-newsScrews social control media; this is NO activism.. it is controlled by the oppressor ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-response-dobbs-abortion/ | Source: The NationJul 26 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Biden’s Troubling Response to “Dobbs” | The NationJul 26 10:33
techrights-newsThe police state ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/fifth-circuit-tells-cops-hispanic-on-a-bike-isnt-enough-suspicion-to-justify-stops-of-hispanics-on-bikes/ | Source: TechdirtJul 26 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fifth Circuit Tells Cops ‘Hispanic On A Bike’ Isn’t Enough Suspicion To Justify Stops Of Hispanics On Bikes | TechdirtJul 26 10:35
techrights-newsWhen the copyright cartel owns the news, too ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/why-is-media-lamenting-disneys-loss-of-copyright-instead-of-celebrating-the-public-domain/ | Source: TechdirtJul 26 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Is Media Lamenting Disney’s ‘Loss’ Of Copyright Instead Of Celebrating The Public Domain? | TechdirtJul 26 10:36
techrights-news"In this tutorial, we are going to explain how to install Netdata Monitoring Tool on the latest Ubuntu 22.04" ☛ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-netdata-monitoring-tool-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHostingJul 26 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Install Netdata Monitoring Tool on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHostingJul 26 10:37
techrights-news"The Espoir is a four-layer board that features the ESP32-MINI-1 which is a dual core processor with maximum frequency of 240MHz." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-based-poe-board-designed-for-home-automation-applications/ | Source: Linux GizmosJul 26 10:37
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techrights-news"The IMB760 is an Extended ATX motherboard, meaning it measures around 330 x 305mm which allows it to incorporate additional ports." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/eatx-board-features-intel-lake-sp-processors-1tb-ddr4-and-dual-10gbe/ | Source: Linux GizmosJul 26 10:38
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techrights-news"While Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 (RHEL 9) deprecated SHA-1 for signing for security reasons" ☛ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/rhel-security-sha-1-package-signatures-distrusted-rhel-9 | Source: Red Hat OfficialJul 26 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Enhancing RHEL Security: Understanding SHA-1 deprecation on RHEL 9Jul 26 10:39
techrights-news#HowTo Install Apple Music Client Cider on Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167678Jul 26 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Apple Music Client Cider on Linux | Tux MachinesJul 26 10:39
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psydruidthe French eat their own as if they are French friesJul 26 10:42
techrights-news#KeepItOn: Calcutta HC disposes of Ashlesh Biradar’s writ petition against internet shutdowns by directing that state authorities are bound to follow law ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/keepiton-calcutta-hc-disposes-of-writ-petition-against-internet-shutdowns-directing-state-authorities-bound-to-follow-law/ ䷉ Source: internetfreedomJul 26 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | #KeepItOn: Calcutta HC disposes of Ashlesh Biradar’s writ petition against internet shutdowns by directing that state authorities are bound to follow lawJul 26 10:43
techrights-news"Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN continues its crackdown on pirate IPTV services." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/brein-settles-with-pirate-iptv-seller-afer-global-chase-220725/ | Source: Torrent FreakJul 26 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BREIN Settles With Pirate IPTV Seller Afer Global Chase * TorrentFreakJul 26 10:45
techrights-news"games have been viewed over two billion times" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/roblox-fights-dmca-subpoena-targeting-up-to-460k-innocent-gamers-220725/ | Source: Torrent FreakJul 26 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roblox Fights DMCA Subpoena Targeting Up to 460K Innocent Gamers * TorrentFreakJul 26 10:45
mateyfor tomoeat a hearty breakfast men, for tomorrow we dine in halluinJul 26 10:48
techrights-news"The latest entry in the Total War franchise was ported by Feral Interactive over to Linux last month." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/total-war-warhammer-iii-cautiously-builds-upon-a-tried-and-true-formula/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Total War: Warhammer III cautiously builds upon a tried and true formula | GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
techrights-news"Have the need for speed and love a good retro first-person shooter? DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER is what you should take a look at." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/dimensional-slaughter-is-an-absolutely-wild-sounding-fast-paced-retro-shooter/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER is an absolutely wild sounding fast-paced retro shooter | GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
techrights-news"Need a new relaxing puzzle game that doesn't require guesswork? Recently hexceed gained a Native Linux port." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/hexceed-is-a-free-hexagonal-minesweeper-out-now-for-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexceed is a free hexagonal Minesweeper out now for Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
mateygod dammitteJul 26 10:49
techrights-news"Looking more promising than ever, the in-development free and open source RPG Veloren has a big new release out." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/free-and-open-source-multiplayer-voxel-rpg-veloren-version-013-is-out/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source multiplayer voxel RPG 'Veloren' version 0.13 is out | GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:49
techrights-news"The Bash command line is a great way to automate tasks. Whether you are running Linux on a server and need to manipulate log files or other data" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/use-bash-automate-tasks-linux | Source: OpenSource.comJul 26 10:52
techrights-news"Excluding HTML, PDF files are probably the most popular document format on the web. Unfortunately, they're not compact." ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/shrink-pdfs-minuimus-linux | Source: OpenSource.comJul 26 10:52
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techrights-news"Those Linux users who deal with PDF files have plenty of programs to choose from." ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/work-with-pdf-files-onlyoffice-docs-linux/ | Source: TecMintJul 26 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shrink PDFs with this Linux tool | Opensource.comJul 26 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Work with PDF Files Using ONLYOFFICE Docs in LinuxJul 26 10:52
techrights-news"By default, SSH already uses secure data communication between remote machines, but if you want to add some extra security layer to your SSH connections" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/ssh-two-factor-authentication/ | Source: TecMintJul 26 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Setup Two-Factor Authentication For SSH In LinuxJul 26 10:52
techrights-news"Black Tabby Games have just announced Slay the Princess." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/slay-the-princess-is-an-upcoming-choice-driven-psychological-horror-visual-novel/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slay the Princess is an upcoming choice-driven psychological horror visual novel | GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:53
techrights-newsGOG discounts ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/gog-announces-the-major-find-your-indie-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOG announces the major Find Your Indie Sale | GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:54
techrights-news"Act fast if you want to get a good free puzzle game! Kenney is giving away Pixross on itch.io and it has Native GNU/Linux support." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/puzzle-game-pixross-from-kenney-is-free-for-24-hours/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Puzzle game Pixross from Kenney is free for 24 hours | GamingOnLinuxJul 26 10:54
techrights-news"Four years ago, the Supreme Court took a long look at the wealth of data generated by cell phones and made a good call." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/thanks-to-aclu-foia-requests-we-now-have-more-details-on-the-dhss-warrantless-acquisition-of-location-data/ | Source: TechdirtJul 26 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thanks To ACLU FOIA Requests, We Now Have More Details On The DHS’s Warrantless Acquisition Of Location Data | TechdirtJul 26 10:56
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techrights-newsMonopolies ☛ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/25/congressmember_khanna_national_baby_formula_shortage | Source: Democracy NowJul 26 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Baby Formula Crisis Requires Urgent Action to Address Shortage of Vital Nutrition & Price Gouging | Democracy Now!Jul 26 11:17
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techrights-newsVaccine patents... and why this cartel too should be ridiculed to death ☛ https://truthout.org/video/as-monkeypox-spreads-us-vaccine-access-is-pitifully-inadequate/ | Source: TruthOutJul 26 11:21
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techrights-newsStarbucks ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-union-starts-workers-fund-after-firing-of-over-50-pro-union-workers/ | Source: TruthOutJul 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Starbucks Union Starts Workers’ Fund After Firing of Over 50 Pro-Union WorkersJul 26 11:23
techrights-newsGames: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167679Jul 26 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and More | Tux MachinesJul 26 11:29
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techrights-newsCHIPS Act = graft ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/sanders-shreds-big-techs-76-billion-corporate-welfare-payday-chips-act | like http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Jul 26 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Shreds Big Tech's $76 Billion 'Corporate Welfare' Payday in CHIPS ActJul 26 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsJul 26 11:53
techrights-newsHulu ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/dems-accuse-hulu-outrageous-censorship-abortion-rights-gun-control-ads | Source: Common DreamsJul 26 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Dems Accuse Hulu of 'Outrageous' Censorship of Abortion Rights, Gun Control AdsJul 26 11:53
techrights-newsGames: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and More ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Games:_Total_War:_Warhammer_III,_DIMENSIONAL_SLAUGHTER,_GOG,_and_More.shtml #newsJul 26 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Games: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and MoreJul 26 11:54
techrights-news"Powerbanks"... because today's "phones" aren't made to run for weeks like they did before ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/a-simple-charging-station-for-twelve-powerbanks/ | Source: HackadayJul 26 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Simple Charging Station For Twelve Powerbanks | HackadayJul 26 11:55
techrights-news"In need of a floppy controller for a 286 he was working on, [Gadget Reboot] took to GitHub to see what was available in the open hardware space." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/up-close-and-personal-with-an-8x-floppy-controller/ | Source: HackadayJul 26 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Up Close And Personal With An 8x Floppy Controller | HackadayJul 26 11:55
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techrights-newsArduino ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/hackaday-prize-2022-arduino-powered-weighing-scale-has-a-real-analog-display/ | Source: HackadayJul 26 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Prize 2022: Arduino-Powered Weighing Scale Has A Real Analog Display | HackadayJul 26 12:07
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DaemonFCschestowitz Gotta keep the phone fed while MS Outlook and GEICO take turns killing the battery.Jul 26 12:16
DaemonFCI hate this GEICO DriveEasy thing. I call it the warden.Jul 26 12:16
schestowitz[TR2]gmJul 26 12:16
schestowitz[TR2]hang onJul 26 12:17
DaemonFCI kill the app sometimes just so it doesn't watch me call someone.Jul 26 12:17
schestowitz[TR2]<techrights-news> "Powerbanks"... because today's "phones" aren't made to run for weeks like they did before ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/a-simple-charging-station-for-twelve-powerbanks/ | Source: HackadayJul 26 12:17
DaemonFCApparently, you can disenroll from it by just removing the app from your phone and eventually they'll take it off and bill you for not having it.Jul 26 12:18
DaemonFCIt is almost worth just paying several bucks a month not to fuck with it and have it yell at you because some bum got in front of your car and made you slam on the brakes so he wouldn't live off GEICO forever.Jul 26 12:18
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DaemonFCschestowitz Carlin and soft language.Jul 26 12:20
DaemonFCHe would have liked "bum".Jul 26 12:20
DaemonFCHe would have said, "You can't call them that anymore, even though that's what they do. Why do people call them bums? All day long standing everywhere you need to go asking for money and cigarettes and to use your phone.".Jul 26 12:21
DaemonFCHe did kind of mention them.Jul 26 12:21
DaemonFCIn his soft language thing. "We don't have poor people living in the ghetto anymore. The economically disadvantaged occupy substandard housing in the inner city.".Jul 26 12:22
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DaemonFCThat's what Matt GULAG's representative has done.Jul 26 12:25
DaemonFCMadame Speaker and her drunkard of a husband.Jul 26 12:25
schestowitz[TR2]paul poloso?Jul 26 12:28
schestowitz[TR2]the microsoft shareholder? pelosi.Jul 26 12:29
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: back o topic, see http://news.tuxmachines.org/index.shtmlJul 26 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux MachinesJul 26 12:29
schestowitz[TR2]it's still a prototypeJul 26 12:29
schestowitz[TR2]of sortsJul 26 12:29
schestowitz[TR2]we're enhancing itJul 26 12:29
schestowitz[TR2]but the basics workJul 26 12:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJul 26 12:30
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DaemonFC"[Bruce] Perens explained that the open-source world is finding standards that require RAND – reasonable and non-discriminatory patent licensing – increasingly problematic. As an example, he pointed to Qualcomm, which he said has been pushing within standards organizations like ETSI (the European Telecommunications Standards Institute) for licenses that require patent payments to be...Jul 26 12:31
DaemonFC...considered "open source," which they aren't.Jul 26 12:31
DaemonFCA Qualcomm attorney, he said, "once offered to pay me to write a paper asserting that Richard Stallman had not meant to rule out patent royalties in the GPL. What a big lie that would have been!""Jul 26 12:31
DaemonFCLOLJul 26 12:31
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DaemonFCNotice that the attorney didn't try to e-mail Stallman (he replies) and ask what he thinks about the GPL and patent payments.Jul 26 12:32
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DaemonFCHe knew what the answer would be.Jul 26 12:32
techrights-news"Folks who want to get away from the electricity that controls our lives." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/26/its-not-dark-yet-oh-wait-yes-it-is/ | Source: Counter PunchJul 26 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It’s Not Dark Yet - Oh Wait, Yes It Is! - CounterPunch.orgJul 26 12:33
DaemonFCschestowitz This is hypocritical of Fedora, however. They allow Fraunhofer AAC in there, and the license says that AAC patent holders (they have many) reserve all rights to attack you for using it.Jul 26 12:33
techrights-newsScam ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/26/why-black-people-and-everyone-else-should-avoid-crypto/ | Source: Counter PunchJul 26 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Black People (and Everyone Else) Should Avoid Crypto - CounterPunch.orgJul 26 12:33
DaemonFCYou might mention that, later.Jul 26 12:34
schestowitz[TR2]Yeah, first saw it in lwnJul 26 12:34
schestowitz[TR2]lake el regJul 26 12:34
schestowitz[TR2]*laterJul 26 12:34
DaemonFCFedora claims this is okay because they patched it to remove "patented" routines, such as the HE-AAC profiles.Jul 26 12:34
schestowitz[TR2]on the issue of cc0 thoughJul 26 12:35
schestowitz[TR2]I think you talk about another fontana issueJul 26 12:35
DaemonFCI suppose Fedora would have had attorneys combing over Low Complexity AAC (mainline profile).Jul 26 12:35
schestowitz[TR2]but there is a correlationJul 26 12:35
DaemonFCBut the license says they reserve the right to attack.Jul 26 12:35
DaemonFCIt's just that we (and the lawyers at Red Hat) suspect that with only LC-AAC, there's nothing to attack with.Jul 26 12:36
DaemonFCIt makes sense. LC-AAC is like 5 years older than all that crap that came later.Jul 26 12:36
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DaemonFCI don't think that Coding Technologies got the SBR and PS patents until like 2003, which means that the rest of it may be safe to use soon, with the exception of xHE-AAC.Jul 26 12:37
DaemonFCBut there might be prior art for that.Jul 26 12:37
DaemonFCBut I doubt anyone will try to enable it until the mid 2030s, and it's not widely used.Jul 26 12:37
DaemonFCThey were trying to make it the mandatory codec for WebRTC and Opus is instead.Jul 26 12:38
DaemonFCAnything that's not 20 years old isn't guaranteed to be safe to use.Jul 26 12:38
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DaemonFCStallman is clearly greatly annoyed by software patents.Jul 26 12:42
schestowitz[TR2]rightly soJul 26 12:42
schestowitz[TR2]so am IJul 26 12:42
DaemonFCWhy would he be less annoyed that they threaten software covered by the GPL?Jul 26 12:42
schestowitz[TR2]we did a 12-part series on this the past fortnightJul 26 12:42
schestowitz[TR2]rms does not say thisJul 26 12:42
schestowitz[TR2]he always says it harms all software devsJul 26 12:42
DaemonFCNo, but it's what that lawyer wanted to pay Perens to say.Jul 26 12:43
schestowitz[TR2]and make a coalition (or foester one) with proprietary shit makersJul 26 12:43
DaemonFCWhy would they pay him to say that?Jul 26 12:43
schestowitz[TR2]to combat this problemJul 26 12:43
schestowitz[TR2]lawyers are overratedJul 26 12:43
schestowitz[TR2]and you can usually find "cheap" ones that do the same workJul 26 12:43
DaemonFCyeahJul 26 12:44
DaemonFCI noticed this.Jul 26 12:44
DaemonFCWe went to the one with the $4,000 coffee machine in the skyscraper.Jul 26 12:44
DaemonFCI said I'd pay it.Jul 26 12:45
DaemonFCHe said he didn't want us as clients.Jul 26 12:45
DaemonFCI found an attorney that took it for less and got it done over in Evanston.Jul 26 12:45
DaemonFCWhat attorney in Chicago does not want an $8,000 case?Jul 26 12:45
techrights-newsOpen Source Explained • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167681 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_Source_Explained.shtmlJul 26 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Explained | Tux MachinesJul 26 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Open Source ExplainedJul 26 12:45
DaemonFCI figured that our case was so bad that we'd better come up "guns blazing" with an expensive lawyer.Jul 26 12:46
DaemonFCAnd the guy basically told us to get out after I offered to pay him.Jul 26 12:46
DaemonFCToo much work I guess. Get the easy ones through. Make them pay for the skyscraper and the $4,000 hot chocolate maker.Jul 26 12:46
DaemonFCIt turned out to not be such a bad day.Jul 26 12:46
schestowitz[TR2]exactlyJul 26 12:46
DaemonFCWe got dinner, watched one of those movies in the park.Jul 26 12:47
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167680Jul 26 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 26 12:47
DaemonFCI keep checking my cat for fleas, and haven't found any evidence of them, but she's scratching more than usual. :/Jul 26 12:49
DaemonFCWonder if I should get a flea collar or something and put it on her just in case.Jul 26 12:49
DaemonFCMy babysitter as a child had a dog named Nibbles.She always had a flea collar on him, didn't seem to bother him much.Jul 26 12:50
DaemonFCThe only thing that did bother the dog was when the neighbor, Mr. Henderson, had his lawn treated for weeds, and she let Nibbles out and he sat on Henderson's lawn to do his business and all the hair on his butt fell out later.Jul 26 12:51
DaemonFCI don't know what they used on that guy's lawn...Jul 26 12:51
DaemonFCWhy do people spray their lawn?Jul 26 12:52
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DaemonFCIt seems people fall into patterns. Like, nobody cares about your lawn. You may get cancer if you spray it. Costs money to spray it.Jul 26 12:53
DaemonFC"According to Perens, it's now clear that an open source license should include an explicit patent grant."Jul 26 12:55
DaemonFCIt was pretty clear in the late 1990s too.Jul 26 12:55
DaemonFCMicrosoft and Netscape already had a ton of them stockpiled.Jul 26 12:55
DaemonFCIn 1998, was FhG's threat letter to anyone implementing MP3 or using it.Jul 26 12:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▅▂▄▇▅▆▆▅▆▅▃▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 30.28 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.66▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jul 26 12:59
DaemonFCThe threat was foreseeable by this point.Jul 26 12:59
DaemonFCIn 1997, Microsoft and Apple settled litigation where Apple claimed to have a patent on the GUI.Jul 26 12:59
DaemonFCNot just a particular look and feel, but "any" GUI.Jul 26 13:00
DaemonFCNo, that was 1994.Jul 26 13:00
schestowitz[TR2]price fixing cartelsJul 26 13:04
schestowitz[TR2]they call it "cross licensing" nowJul 26 13:04
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_CompanyJul 26 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | San Francisco Canyon Company - WikipediaJul 26 13:04
DaemonFCLOLJul 26 13:04
schestowitz[TR2]IBM did that alsoJul 26 13:04
schestowitz[TR2]but IBM usually wants lump sum payments in additionJul 26 13:05
DaemonFCApple says Microsoft stole "thousands of lines" of Quicktime for Video for Windows.Jul 26 13:05
schestowitz[TR2]so the poructs get more expensiveJul 26 13:05
schestowitz[TR2]or profit margins decreaeJul 26 13:05
DaemonFCIn response, Bill Gates threatened to cancel Office for the Mac.Jul 26 13:05
schestowitz[TR2]a hideen "lawyer tax" in every gadgetJul 26 13:05
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: yes, there is Comes vs Microsoft leakJul 26 13:05
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: gates knows the power of blackmailJul 26 13:06
schestowitz[TR2]gates knows jeffrey espteinJul 26 13:06
schestowitz[TR2]knowsJul 26 13:06
DaemonFCThat would have hurt Apple immeasurably. Jul 26 13:06
DaemonFCAt the time, Apple had almost no Mac users and certainly no replacement for MS Office.Jul 26 13:06
DaemonFCThey could barely afford to keep the lights on, much less write an office program.Jul 26 13:07
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techrights-news"cryptocurrency world is chock full of scammers, Ponzi schemes" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/while-everyone-was-focused-on-crypto-scams-walmart-was-out-here-actively-helping-scammers/ | Source: TechdirtJul 26 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-While Everyone Was Focused On Crypto Scams, Walmart Was Out Here Actively Helping Scammers | TechdirtJul 26 13:23
techrights-newsTwitter IS a lot of SPAM ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/if-someone-is-prattling-on-about-spam-on-twitter-and-how-that-helps-elon-musk-send-them-this-article/ | see http://techrights.org/2022/05/27/twitter-defrauding-shareholders/Jul 26 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If Someone Is Prattling On About Spam On Twitter And How That Helps Elon Musk, Send Them This Article | TechdirtJul 26 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Visual Proof That Twitter Very Likely Faked Its Magnitude the Moment Musk et al (KSA, Ellison and so on) Wanted to Buy | TechrightsJul 26 13:32
techrights-newsFCC ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/fcc-to-finally-probe-u-s-wireless-abuse-of-customer-location-data/ | Source: TechdirtJul 26 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FCC To Finally Probe U.S. Wireless Abuse Of Customer Location Data | TechdirtJul 26 13:32
techrights-newsArizona ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/aclu-arizona-prison-censorship/ | Source: The NationJul 26 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Arizona Prison System Is Censoring “The Nation.” We’re Doing Something About It. | The NationJul 26 13:33
techrights-news"qualified immunity to Denver, Colorado police officers" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/appeals-court-corrects-its-previous-error-holds-that-recording-cops-is-a-clearly-established-right/ | Source: TechdirtJul 26 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appeals Court Corrects Its Previous Error, Holds That Recording Cops Is A Clearly Established Right | TechdirtJul 26 13:33
techrights-newsOpenJewelry ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/openjewelry-no-pliers-required/ | Source: HackadayJul 26 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenJewelry, No Pliers Required | HackadayJul 26 13:34
techrights-newsBellingcat ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/25/a-double-operational-game | Source: MeduzaJul 26 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEJul 26 13:34
techrights-news"For reasons still unclear, [Techmoan] has procured an RCA 8-track changer that holds five tape cartridges in a custom carrier." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/50-year-old-8-track-changer-repair-and-hack/ | Source: HackadayJul 26 13:35
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techrights-news"heightened terrorist threat level" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/25/are-you-a-tourist-or-a-spy | Source: MeduzaJul 26 13:49
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techrights-newsWell Bill Gates also "Cashed in During COVID", but Pro Publica took bribes from this famous criminal, so no articles in Pro Publica about that ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinelawn-lockes-pinelawn | Source: Pro PublicaJul 26 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | The Family Behind Pinelawn Memorial Park Cashed in During COVID — ProPublicaJul 26 13:50
techrights-news"Following along with the 2022 Hackaday Prize theme on building a better world by doing what we all do best – hacking together solutions" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/2022-hackaday-prize-make-your-world-more-disaster-resistant-more-engaged/ | Source: HackadayJul 26 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2022 Hackaday Prize: Make Your World More Disaster Resistant, More Engaged | HackadayJul 26 13:50
techrights-newsOpen Source Explained • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167681https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/EATX_board_and_Open_Hardware.shtmlJul 26 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Explained | Tux MachinesJul 26 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | EATX board and Open HardwareJul 26 13:58
techrights-newsEATX board and Open Hardware • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167682Jul 26 13:59
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horsefaceni haoJul 26 14:03
techuserhiJul 26 14:03
horsefaceyo!Jul 26 14:03
horsefacefriend...Jul 26 14:03
horseface:-DJul 26 14:03
schestowitz[TR2]wb, horseface Jul 26 14:04
horsefacethank you!Jul 26 14:04
horseface:-DJul 26 14:04
schestowitz[TR2]are you high again?Jul 26 14:04
horsefaceit's good to be back!Jul 26 14:04
horsefaceactually rofl...Jul 26 14:04
horsefaceunfortunately not.Jul 26 14:04
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schestowitz[TR2]ahJul 26 14:04
horsefaceI am in the forest in Denmark running from the government.Jul 26 14:04
schestowitz[TR2]ok, so you're just very cordialJul 26 14:04
horsefaceI've been fucking SOBER for too long, I am about to eat my pants.Jul 26 14:04
horsefaceyes...Jul 26 14:04
horsefacehjahaJul 26 14:04
schestowitz[TR2]partly spanish laughterJul 26 14:05
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horsefacelolJul 26 14:05
schestowitz[TR2]jajajajJul 26 14:05
techuserI know a person who speaks Spanish, but no idea about timezonsJul 26 14:05
horsefacethat's it!Jul 26 14:05
techuser*timezonesJul 26 14:05
techuserUTC-5Jul 26 14:05
horsefaceyou nailed it.Jul 26 14:05
techuseractually I did bring him here (Luis64_gamer/MoneyFliffer), but he left because he though DaemonFC is a bot who pretends to be a humanJul 26 14:06
horsefaceLOLJul 26 14:06
horsefacemeth.Jul 26 14:06
horsefacenot even once.Jul 26 14:06
horsefaceLOLJul 26 14:06
*horseface is paranoid that everyone here is a bot irlJul 26 14:06
horsefaceo.oJul 26 14:06
horsefacejkJul 26 14:06
horsefacehahaJul 26 14:06
psydruiddfc botenJul 26 14:07
techrights-newsLinks 26/07/2022: Open Hardware, DRM, and Politics | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/drm-and-politics/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/drm-and-politics/Jul 26 14:07
horsefaceroflJul 26 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/07/2022: Open Hardware, DRM, and Politics | TechrightsJul 26 14:07
techrights-news"Anyway, more or less just when I'd done that I went on a trip to Finland for a few days. At some point during that trip, I don't remember exactly when, I sat down cross legged to wait for someone or something and that same acidic smell hit me stronger than it had ever done in the hallway." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-26-oh-poop.gmiJul 26 14:09
techrights-newsThe Dumbest Card Shuffle gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-26-the-dumbest-card-shuffle.gmiJul 26 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]* horseface is paranoid that everyone here is a bot irlJul 26 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]IRL or online?Jul 26 14:11
horsefaceallJul 26 14:11
horsefacesame sameJul 26 14:11
horsefacelolJul 26 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]these channels have been around for 14+ yearsJul 26 14:11
horsefacelolJul 26 14:12
schestowitz[TR2]because people here partly know each otherJul 26 14:12
schestowitz[TR2]mostlly online, a few  also IRLJul 26 14:12
horsefaceoh cool.Jul 26 14:12
techuserhorseface: if you'd want to talk to him, he appears on kolya's IRC, and also on DiscordJul 26 14:12
horsefaceI only really know people on freenode (libera now)...Jul 26 14:12
horsefaceI've been there since forever...Jul 26 14:12
schestowitz[TR2]in the early days many people from USENET or C.O.L.A.Jul 26 14:12
horsefaceyes, I see.Jul 26 14:13
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techrights-news"Smart" phones = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning_chamberJul 26 14:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Operant conditioning chamber - WikipediaJul 26 14:22
techrights-newsFreexian’s report about Debian Long Term Support, June 2022 ⚓ https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/07/26/freexians-report-about-debian-long-term-support-june-2022/ ䷉ Source: raphaelhertzog | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//raphaelhertzog.com/2022/07/26/freexians-report-about-debian-long-term-support-june-2022/Jul 26 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raphaelhertzog.com | Freexian’s report about Debian Long Term Support, June 2022Jul 26 14:24
techrights-newsICBM likes to arrogantly assume every GNU/Linux user is a Microsoft systemd userJul 26 14:25
techrights-newsAt least no systems mentioned here today https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/hidepid-linux-hide-pidJul 26 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to hide PID listings from non-root users in Linux | Enable SysadminJul 26 14:26
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techrights-newsPrivacy issue https://bylinetimes.com/2022/07/18/how-russias-western-propagandists-are-undermining-justice-for-war-crime-victims/Jul 26 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bylinetimes.com | How Russia’s Western Propagandists are Undermining Justice for War Crime Victims  – Byline TimesJul 26 14:36
techrights-newsCreation of the Nest/Flock/Hatch logos and Colúr! ⚓ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/creation-of-the-nest-flock-hatch-logos-and-colur/ ䷉ Source: communityfedoraproject | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/creation-of-the-nest-flock-hatch-logos-and-colur/Jul 26 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Creation of the Nest/Flock/Hatch logos and Colúr! – Fedora Community BlogJul 26 14:37
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167683Jul 26 14:40
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techrights-newsICBM cites "study" from Jim AllowHurst's former employer to prop up buzzwords, hype, HEY HI https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/artificial-intelligence-how-stay-competitiveJul 26 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Artificial Intelligence: How to stay competitive | The Enterprisers ProjectJul 26 14:41
techrights-news"Hat’s Global Privacy Program"???? Give me a break!!! Red Hat works for DoD, almost certainly its BIGGEST client and the world's most malicious and extensive spy (also sudsidises spying companies in the "private" sector, aka GRAFT sector) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/privacy-compliance-cultureJul 26 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 5 ways to embed privacy compliance into your culture | The Enterprisers ProjectJul 26 14:42
techrights-newsFindex – Fast And Easy Tool to Search Apps in Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167684https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Findex__Fast_And_Easy_Tool_to_Search_Apps_in_Linux.shtml #newsJul 26 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Findex – Fast And Easy Tool to Search Apps in Linux | Tux MachinesJul 26 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Findex – Fast And Easy Tool to Search Apps in LinuxJul 26 14:42
techrights-newsMichael Phoronbel says "Intel Releases OSPRay Studio 0.11.1", but it's actually outsourced to proprietary software of Microsoft. Intel is infiltrated by Microsofter. It wasn't like this years ago: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksJul 26 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsJul 26 14:44
techrights-newsCompanies' HR depts. need to test potential recruits for Microsoftism (religion) like airports requite COVID-19 tests...Jul 26 14:45
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techrights-newsLinux Format 292 ⚓ https://linuxformat.com/linux-format-292.html ䷉ Source: linuxformat | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxformat.com/linux-format-292.htmlJul 26 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxformat.com | Linux Format 292Jul 26 15:06
techrights-news[PATCH] intel_idle: make SPR C1 and C1E be independent ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJZ5v0iy_yH4bdJO+tCYrZMMDUFN81rFymR=b7Q6MfE4smzoPw@mail.gmail.com/T/#t ䷉ Source: kernel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJZ5v0iy_yH4bdJO+tCYrZMMDUFN81rFymR=b7Q6MfE4smzoPw@mail.gmail.com/T/#tJul 26 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH] intel_idle: make SPR C1 and C1E be independentJul 26 15:06
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22070749Jul 26 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bf5dh5j56c991.png created on 2022-07-07 17:44:35.451868Jul 26 15:11
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techrights-news"16-core Intel Core i9 ... power-efficient" SERIOUSLY????? "...Power Supply... 8-20V AT banana power jacks" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/26/conga-hpc-uatx-micro-atx-board-com-hpc-client-type-modules/Jul 26 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | conga-HPC/uATX is a micro-ATX board for COM-HPC Client Type modules - CNX SoftwareJul 26 15:17
schestowitz[TR2]psydruid: ^^Jul 26 15:17
*psydruid has watched a bunch of videos and read a bunch of articles about Loongson's 3A5000 CPU and 7A2000 chipset over the past dayJul 26 15:19
techrights-newsYour SBC will NEVER be competitive (price, value, technical aspects too!) if your objective is "RUN WINDOWS ON IT". See what happened to OLPC after Microsoft and also the Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation intervened to kill it. http://techrights.org/wiki/OLPCJul 26 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OLPC - TechrightsJul 26 15:19
psydruidbanana computingJul 26 15:19
techrights-newsWindows is to SBC is what horse at the back seat of a sedan would beJul 26 15:20
schestowitz[TR2]Banana ReputingJul 26 15:20
schestowitz[TR2]Banana Pie in the faceJul 26 15:20
schestowitz[TR2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PieingJul 26 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pieing - WikipediaJul 26 15:21
schestowitz[TR2]"A noted victim of pieing was Microsoft founder Bill Gates who was pied in Belgium in 1998."Jul 26 15:21
schestowitz[TR2]LOLJul 26 15:21
schestowitz[TR2]victimJul 26 15:21
schestowitz[TR2]Epstein was a victim tooJul 26 15:21
schestowitz[TR2]he got bad pressJul 26 15:21
schestowitz[TR2]"According to former US president Donald Trump's former fixer Michael Cohen, his boss often referred to the Bill Gates incident and instructed his security detail to look out for flying pies. Trump has also expressed a disdain for fruit-based projectiles, stating under oath that "you can be killed if that happens.”[33]Jul 26 15:22
schestowitz[TR2]"Jul 26 15:22
MinceRbanana republic computingJul 26 15:22
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psydruidThey should make a sequel called Pieing Bill GatesJul 26 15:26
techrights-newsLOL, party like it's the 1980s again... but this is INNOVA~1... because this time it's GULAG https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-adds-drag-and-drop-to-workspace-android/Jul 26 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Google Adds Drag and Drop to Workspace on Android Tablets - Make Tech EasierJul 26 15:29
techrights-newsIs Mint Debian Underrated? - Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 Review - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M7gIUh3GIpU | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/M7gIUh3GIpUJul 26 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Is Mint Debian Underrated? - Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 Review - InvidiousJul 26 15:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJul 26 15:30
techrights-newsEssential Keybindings For Bash, Fish and Zsh - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XY5qCQcrHns | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/XY5qCQcrHnsJul 26 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Essential Keybindings For Bash, Fish and Zsh - InvidiousJul 26 15:30
techrights-newsLinux CLI in 60 Seconds - Creating Files - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SMLESyMrvpY | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SMLESyMrvpYJul 26 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - Creating Files - InvidiousJul 26 15:31
techrights-newsRegata OS 22.0.3 | Ready for those who love to play - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ndtIxL3j6yk | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ndtIxL3j6ykJul 26 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Regata OS 22.0.3 | Ready for those who love to play - InvidiousJul 26 15:31
techrights-newsSpellBinding: XCIMOTA Wordo: MUFFS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-26.gmiJul 26 15:33
techrights-newsMoving to self-hosted GitLAB: "The four previously separated repositories core, connector-dbus, renderer and server have been combined into this single repository. I was amongst those who promoted for the split, but since then the conditions have changed and it is far easier to maintain in an all-in-one repository now." http://jensge.org/2022/07/26/dleyna-has-moved/Jul 26 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jensge.org | dLeyna has moved | The adventures of fooJul 26 15:36
techrights-newsNow promoting something proprietary that might in fact be spying? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/07/sunamu-now-playing-linux-desktop-widgetJul 26 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Sunamu is a Slick 'Now Playing' Widget for Your Desktop - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 26 15:38
techrights-newsAdriaan de Groot: KDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD | [bobulate] ⚓ https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2022/07/26/plasma-delay.html ䷉ Source: euroquis | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//euroquis.nl//freebsd/2022/07/26/plasma-delay.htmlJul 26 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | KDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD | [bobulate]Jul 26 15:39
MinceROMG! Proprietary software! as usualJul 26 15:39
schestowitz[TR2]it won't be readyJul 26 15:39
schestowitz[TR2]till ubuntu is cheap macJul 26 15:39
MinceR:>Jul 26 15:39
techrights-newsTrack flight information from the command line http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/26786/track-flight-information-from-the-command-lineJul 26 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commandlinefu.com | Track flight information from the command line Using grepJul 26 15:40
techrights-newsCheck out Gate number for your flight from CLI with Chrome http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/26785/check-out-gate-number-for-your-flight-from-cli-with-chromeJul 26 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commandlinefu.com | Check out Gate number for your flight from CLI with Chrome Using grepJul 26 15:40
techrights-newsLive somewhere quieter, quit wasting money on batteries inside the headphones. https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-turn-on-noise-cancelling-on-airpods/Jul 26 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-turn-on-noise-cancelling-on-airpods/ )Jul 26 15:41
schestowitz[TR2]MinceR: still noisy neighbours?Jul 26 15:41
schestowitz[TR2]dodn't get rid of the neiughboursJul 26 15:41
MinceRyeah, in budapestJul 26 15:41
schestowitz[TR2]so buy Apple AirPods Jul 26 15:42
MinceRbut i've managed to spend 2 weeks at the holiday house insteadJul 26 15:42
MinceRno thanksJul 26 15:42
schestowitz[TR2]mandy is sellingJul 26 15:42
schestowitz[TR2]good as newJul 26 15:42
schestowitz[TR2]from USAJul 26 15:42
MinceRi hate in-ear earphonesJul 26 15:42
schestowitz[TR2]yeah, me as wellJul 26 15:42
MinceRand i especially hate crApple/beats crapJul 26 15:42
schestowitz[TR2]bad for the sensory system tooJul 26 15:42
schestowitz[TR2]I use a padded setJul 26 15:42
MinceRlowest possible quality, BUT you get extra weightsJul 26 15:42
schestowitz[TR2]a pistol is cheaper than apple airpodsJul 26 15:45
schestowitz[TR2]or "beats"(r) from fakeDoktor DreckJul 26 15:45
schestowitz[TR2]and witha  pistol you can remove sources of noiseJul 26 15:46
schestowitz[TR2]and it lasts longer, tooJul 26 15:46
schestowitz[TR2](sarcasm)Jul 26 15:46
schestowitz[TR2](dark humour)Jul 26 15:46
MinceR:>Jul 26 15:46
AdmFubarwait till you see how noisy prison isJul 26 15:47
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22070727Jul 26 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/h8wucjx9a7991.png created on 2022-07-07 10:24:54.014004Jul 26 15:47
MinceRprisons will be a lot quieter too, once all the humans are deadJul 26 15:47
schestowitz[TR2]AdmFubar: so in prison you get Beats(r)Jul 26 15:49
schestowitz[TR2]and get beaten upJul 26 15:49
schestowitz[TR2]by the ganstersJul 26 15:49
schestowitz[TR2]q: what's wrose than prison?Jul 26 15:49
schestowitz[TR2]a: being in prison without noise-cancelling headphonesJul 26 15:50
MinceRhttps://pics.onsizzle.com/beats-by-dad-10273417.pngJul 26 15:51
schestowitz[TR2]whatever happens, don't drop the beatsJul 26 15:51
schestowitz[TR2]esp. not in the shaowerJul 26 15:52
schestowitz[TR2]they're not waterproofJul 26 15:52
schestowitz[TR2]and you get 64 beats in the arseJul 26 15:53
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AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/no-more-ransom-helps-millions-of-ransomware-victims-in-6-years/Jul 26 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | No More Ransom helps millions of ransomware victims in 6 yearsJul 26 16:08
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schestowitz[TR2]they should just get rid of WIndowsJul 26 16:12
schestowitz[TR2]about 95% of ransomware is WindowsJul 26 16:12
techrights-newsMichael Larabel has just changed his profile picture in all Phoronix pages to https://www.phoronix.com/assets/categories/michaellarabel.webpJul 26 16:14
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psydruidNext he'll call himself Louis LF LarAMDelJul 26 16:29
schestowitz[TR2]the site cna still be of use to find some kernel commitsJul 26 16:30
schestowitz[TR2]lkml shows the whole lotJul 26 16:30
schestowitz[TR2]and it's hard to find significant changesJul 26 16:31
schestowitz[TR2]but phoronix highlights the ones of interest to itselfJul 26 16:31
schestowitz[TR2]so you can see one person's cross-section of cross-cut of the whoelJul 26 16:31
techrights-newsTails 5.3 is out • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167685https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Tails_5.3_is_out.shtml #newsJul 26 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 5.3 is out | Tux MachinesJul 26 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tails 5.3 is outJul 26 16:34
techrights-newsPhoronix has just gone offline. Even clownflare cannot reach it. Yes, it outsourced to this malCDN.Jul 26 16:38
techrights-newsJuly 2022 Turnip Status Update - Danylo’s blog ⚓ https://blogs.igalia.com/dpiliaiev/turnip-july-2022-update/ ䷉ Source: igalia | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blogs.igalia.com/dpiliaiev/turnip-july-2022-update/Jul 26 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | July 2022 Turnip Status Update - Danylo’s blogJul 26 16:40
MinceR(cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/fSGjqdYJul 26 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rimgo.bcow.xyz | Poor Little Pepper - rimgoJul 26 16:41
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techrights-news"THP_SWAP has been proven to improve the swap throughput significantly on x86_64 according to commit bd4c82c22c367e ("mm, THP, swap: delay splitting THP after swapped out")." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux.git/commit/?id=d0637c505f8a1d8c4088642f1f3e9e3b22da14f6Jul 26 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/arm64/linux.git - AArch64 Linux kernel portJul 26 16:56
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techrights-newsWill you trust a project created by Gulag and which takes security advice from the most notorious back door proponent (NSA)? https://containerjournal.com/features/what-are-the-nsa-k8s-guidelines-and-why-should-you-care/Jul 26 16:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | What Are the NSA K8s Guidelines and Why Should You Care? - Container JournalJul 26 16:57
phanesim surprised you dont talk more about selinuxJul 26 16:58
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phanesanybody remember that huge vuln that came out that allowed you to get root access, but only if you had selinux enabled?Jul 26 16:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▅▂▄▇▅▆▆▅▆▅▃▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 30.28 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.66▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jul 26 16:59
MinceRi avoid selinuxJul 26 16:59
MinceRit's not just an NSA backdoor, it's also the wrong approach for securityJul 26 16:59
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phaneshard to make that case in corporate env's, especially with certified security professionals on the staffJul 26 17:02
techrights-newsSudden subject changer after the WIPO affair? https://news.itsfoss.com/debian-non-free/Jul 26 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Debian May Consider Including Non-Free Firmware in Official Releases - It's FOSS NewsJul 26 17:02
phanesthere's a whole indoctrination program tied to just about any security credentials that you could get that would certify you to be able to be listened to about it lolJul 26 17:02
schestowitz[TR2]phanes: we covered selinux a lotJul 26 17:03
MinceRwho certified them, microsoft?Jul 26 17:03
MinceR"let's slap another layer of complexity on top, that will fix security!"Jul 26 17:03
psydruidPluton and GoofyJul 26 17:03
schestowitz[TR2]e.g. http://techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/ http://techrights.org/2013/11/25/freedo-and-nsa-code/Jul 26 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us | TechrightsJul 26 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux in Government and Why There is Still NSA Agenda to Keep Wary Eye on | TechrightsJul 26 17:03
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2015/07/08/red-hat-nsa/Jul 26 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat and NSA: This is Not News | TechrightsJul 26 17:03
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/paul-cormier-hortonworks/Jul 26 17:03
phanesMinceR, the main problem is there's an industry tendency to laugh at turning anything with the word "security" in its name off without examining whyJul 26 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat’s CEO is Still Connected to the NSA Through the Hortonworks Board | TechrightsJul 26 17:03
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2013/09/20/linux-backdoor-question/Jul 26 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linus Torvalds Dodges Question About Requests for NSA Backdoor in Linux | TechrightsJul 26 17:04
MinceR"our code monkeys have no clue what they're typing, but here's a bunch of buzzwords we made up to make you think the result is secure."Jul 26 17:04
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2014/02/06/close-to-the-nsa/   http://techrights.org/2014/04/02/red-hat-dot-net/  http://techrights.org/2013/11/24/tpm-back-doors-patriot-act-etc/ Jul 26 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Poll: Only 39% Trust Red Hat Over Back Doors | TechrightsJul 26 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat Should Keep Its Distance From NSA Facilitator Microsoft | TechrightsJul 26 17:04
MinceR(the latter is more the windows approach, not the selinux one)Jul 26 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Trusting Trust and Trusting Red Hat et al. | TechrightsJul 26 17:04
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2014/01/17/rhel-security/Jul 26 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | For Real Security, Use CentOS — Never RHEL — and Run Neither on Amazon’s Servers | TechrightsJul 26 17:04
schestowitz[TR2]I don't think any serious security professional consideres selinux a solutionJul 26 17:07
schestowitz[TR2]like people who studied genetics consider "asking Microsoft for permission|" to b e "seucirtyuJul 26 17:07
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schestowitz[TR2]14+ years ago http://techrights.org/2008/04/30/binary-bridges-and-security/Jul 26 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Novell’s ‘Binary Bridges’: Could SUSE Ever Inherit the Anti-Features of Windows? | TechrightsJul 26 17:07
schestowitz[TR2]Vaul;t 7 had some stuff about Red HatJul 26 17:08
schestowitz[TR2]CIA devised ways inJul 26 17:08
psydruidSELinux is definitely a solution to the security problem of not having an easily accessible backdoor into GNU/Linux systemsJul 26 17:08
schestowitz[TR2]and NSA uses Fedora, Red Hat..Jul 26 17:08
psydruidso they added one for your convenienceJul 26 17:08
schestowitz[TR2]techrights used to use selinusJul 26 17:09
schestowitz[TR2]but it was just a nuisanceJul 26 17:09
schestowitz[TR2]and a polaceboJul 26 17:09
schestowitz[TR2]never prevented any real attack attemptsJul 26 17:09
schestowitz[TR2]tracy got rid of it eventuallyJul 26 17:09
psydruidis there any merit to its design principles?Jul 26 17:09
schestowitz[TR2]"secure" bootJul 26 17:10
schestowitz[TR2]=Jul 26 17:10
schestowitz[TR2]let's ask the NSA's enablerJul 26 17:10
schestowitz[TR2]and loyal partnerJul 26 17:10
schestowitz[TR2]if it's OK to boot thisJul 26 17:10
schestowitz[TR2]than a bunch of Microsoft-paid media monkeys will repeat the liesJul 26 17:11
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/07/25/nontechnical-security-talking-points/Jul 26 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the Minds of Microsoft’s Media Operatives — Part III — Attacking Real Security, Promoting Lies and Fake ‘Security’ | TechrightsJul 26 17:11
schestowitz[TR2]as pointed out 24 hours agoJul 26 17:11
techrights-newsWhy You Should Use a VPN On Your Linux Machine - LinuxTechLab ⚓ https://linuxtechlab.com/why-you-should-use-a-vpn-on-your-linux-machine/ this one looks like a real article, not the typical VPN webspamJul 26 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why You Should Use a VPN On Your Linux Machine - LinuxTechLabJul 26 17:16
techrights-newsLinux Foundation would have you believe Microsoft (crime) is "community" and GitHub is "Open Source", never mind the brand "Linux" being misused for greenwashing: "Learn more about the OS-Climate community on GitHub." https://www.fosslife.org/os-climate-releases-3-tools-tackling-climate-changeJul 26 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | OS-Climate Releases 3 Tools for Tackling Climate ChangeJul 26 17:18
techrights-newsAnd also spam for CompTIA (Microsoft shill). FOSSlife is run by rogues of LF and openwashers https://www.fosslife.org/9-top-jobs-cybersecurity see http://techrights.org/2009/05/29/idg-boosts-act-comptia/Jul 26 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | 9 Top Jobs in CybersecurityJul 26 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IDG, ACT, CompTIA and the Rest of the Microsoft AstroTurf | TechrightsJul 26 17:19
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MinceRhttps://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/doccy.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-doccy#comic )Jul 26 17:21
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techrights-newsOSS Security Highlights from the 2022 [FAKE] Open Source Summit North America https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/oss-security-highlights-from-the-2022-open-source-summit-north-america/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/Jul 26 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | OSS Security Highlights from the 2022 Open Source Summit North America - Linux FoundationJul 26 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like It’s About Back Doors — Not Real Security — Inside the Linux Foundation | TechrightsJul 26 17:21
techrights-newsKDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167686Jul 26 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD | Tux MachinesJul 26 17:23
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techrights-newsDebian May Consider Including Non-Free Firmware in Official Releases • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167687Jul 26 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian May Consider Including Non-Free Firmware in Official Releases | Tux MachinesJul 26 17:25
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techrights-newsFirefox finally ships with long-awaited swipe gestures • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167688Jul 26 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox finally ships with long-awaited swipe gestures | Tux MachinesJul 26 17:36
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167689Jul 26 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 17:38
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJul 26 18:30
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techrights-newsSUPER AFFORDABLE Ryzen powered Linux desktop: DeskMini UM350 Review - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cKJU9IFDbE0 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/cKJU9IFDbE0Jul 26 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | SUPER AFFORDABLE Ryzen powered Linux desktop: DeskMini UM350 Review - InvidiousJul 26 18:41
techrights-newsHints about SUSE’s ’Adaptable Linux Platform&#039; emerge • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167690https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Hints_about_SUSE's_'Adaptable_Linux_Platform'_emerge.shtml #newsJul 26 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hints about SUSE's 'Adaptable Linux Platform' emerge | Tux MachinesJul 26 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Hints about SUSE's 'Adaptable Linux Platform' emergeJul 26 18:43
techrights-newsSystem76’s Pop!_OS Linux 22.04 Distro Is Now Available for Raspberry Pi 4 PCs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167691Jul 26 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76’s Pop!_OS Linux 22.04 Distro Is Now Available for Raspberry Pi 4 PCs | Tux MachinesJul 26 18:44
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techrights-newsIBM Uses Power10 CPU As An I/O Switch <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/26/ibm-uses-power10-cpu-as-an-i-o-switch/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Jul 26 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | IBM Uses Power10 CPU As An I/O SwitchJul 26 18:49
techrights-newsCHERI-flavored computer runs KDE for the first time • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167692https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/CHERI-flavored_computer_runs_KDE_for_the_first_time.shtml #newsJul 26 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CHERI-flavored computer runs KDE for the first time | Tux MachinesJul 26 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | CHERI-flavored computer runs KDE for the first timeJul 26 18:50
techrights-newsIBM Uses Power10 CPU As An I/O Switch ⚓ https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/26/ibm-uses-power10-cpu-as-an-i-o-switch/ ䷉ Source: nextplatform | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/26/ibm-uses-power10-cpu-as-an-i-o-switch/Jul 26 18:50
techrights-newsWhy link to articles from 17 years ago? https://www.linuxsecurity.com/news/vendors-products/linuxone-ibm-s-new-linux-mainframes?rssJul 26 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | ​LinuxONE: IBM's New Linux MainframesJul 26 18:51
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techrights-newsFedora Infrastructure downtimne. "We're updating copr packages to the new versions which will bring new features and bugfixes." So it needs to be offline???Jul 26 18:52
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techrights-newsThis is bullshit: " Of course, if a company doesn’t have a website, it basically can’t survive!" https://thishosting.rocks/why-you-should-not-choose-a-free-web-hosting-provider/Jul 26 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thishosting.rocks | Why You Should NOT Choose a Free Web Hosting ProviderJul 26 18:58
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techrights-newsRed Hat / Fedora / IBM Leftovers: The Realm of Big Blue • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167693https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Red_Hat__Fedora__IBM_Leftovers.shtml #newsJul 26 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat / Fedora / IBM Leftovers: The Realm of Big Blue | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat / Fedora / IBM LeftoversJul 26 19:00
techrights-newsAudiocasts/Shows: DeskMini, Regata OS, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167694https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/AudiocastsShows:_DeskMini,_Regata_OS,_and_More.shtml #newsJul 26 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: DeskMini, Regata OS, and More | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: DeskMini, Regata OS, and MoreJul 26 19:01
techrights-newsIt would be better to run Minetest, not proprietary stuff from Microsoft https://adam.younglogic.com/2022/07/can-you-run-a-minecraft-server-on-an-ampere-computing-based-system/Jul 26 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adam.younglogic.com | Can you run a Minecraft Server on an Ampere Computing based System? | Adam Young's Web LogJul 26 19:05
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techrights-newsSecurity: Patches, NSA, VPN, Fake Security, and ’Free’ Certificates • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167695https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Security:_Patches,_NSA,_VPN,_Fake_Security,_and_'Free'_Certificates.shtml #newsJul 26 19:09
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167696Jul 26 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, NSA, VPN, Fake Security, and 'Free' Certificates | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, NSA, VPN, Fake Security, and 'Free' CertificatesJul 26 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:10
techrights-newsthenewstack = corporate SPAM site, "Tigera sponsored this post." https://thenewstack.io/3-best-practices-for-image-building-and-scanning/ so they run ads... as 'articles'Jul 26 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | 3 Best Practices for Image Building and Scanning – The New StackJul 26 19:16
phanesim kinda shocked those coprs aren't being updated with a blue/green deployment modelJul 26 19:17
phanesfedora really seems to be going to shit latelyJul 26 19:18
britneyphanes, how so?Jul 26 19:18
phanesjust noticing a general drop in org coherence and some configuration choices that just stand out as more amateurish than id expect from fedora historically.  nothing i can place my finger on outside of systemd.Jul 26 19:20
britneyphanes, you run fedora?Jul 26 19:21
phanesi like systemd and think its a good choice for system init and service state control but beyond that its just interference with other subsystemsJul 26 19:21
phanesbritney, yes for quite a few years, its great for what i use it forJul 26 19:21
britneyphanes, i love fedora but i switched to arch linux for the memesJul 26 19:22
britneyfedora was boring, everything worked perfectlyJul 26 19:23
britneythere is a meme about trans women running arch linux, having anime girl profile pictures, and wearing thigh high "programmer" socksJul 26 19:26
techrights-newsLinux Around The World: Portugal - LinuxLinks ⚓ https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-portugal/ ䷉ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/linux-portugal/Jul 26 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Around The World: Portugal - LinuxLinksJul 26 19:30
techrights-newsWhy you should not disable SELinux gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-07-26.gmiJul 26 19:31
techrights-newsCommunity to celebrate openSUSE Birthday - openSUSE News ⚓ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/07/26/community-to-celebrate-os-birthday/ ䷉ Source: news | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.opensuse.org/2022/07/26/community-to-celebrate-os-birthday/Jul 26 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | Community to celebrate openSUSE Birthday - openSUSE NewsJul 26 19:34
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techrights-newsNo, this is actually a reason to abandon x86 (among other reasons) https://www.techradar.com/news/theres-another-great-reason-to-update-to-64-bit-linux-nowJul 26 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-There's another great reason to update to 64-bit Linux now | TechRadarJul 26 19:36
techrights-news"But don't devs use INS key? Like havent you ever been messing with code and wanted to just overwrite stuff over and over? Or for that matter, want a 10key pad? Dunno why they call it a developer version. But anyways cool $1100 linux laptop." Cool? Check the processor. It can overheat. https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=6369960#post6369960Jul 26 19:37
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techrights-newsBackstabbers at scale https://blog.opensource.org/osi-to-attend-scale-19x-conference/Jul 26 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.opensource.org | OSI to attend SCaLE 19x conference - Voices of Open SourceJul 26 19:38
techrights-news"An attacker capable of invoking the protocols' functionalities could cause configuration and system changes." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-02 Ironic name for the Equipment: Safety ManagerJul 26 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Honeywell Safety Manager | CISAJul 26 19:40
techrights-news"We’re wrapping up another great week with the following activities from the Apache community..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up265Jul 26 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 22 July 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation BlogJul 26 19:41
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/26/germanys-ex-chancellor-schroder-is-in-moscow-kremlin-does-not-rule-out-he-might-be-in-talks-with-putin-news "Germany’s ex-chancellor Schröder is in Moscow, Kremlin 'does not rule out' he might be in talks with Putin"Jul 26 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаJul 26 19:50
XRevan86https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/26/a78411Jul 26 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Kremlin Says Move Against Jewish Agency Should Not Be 'Politicized' - The Moscow TimesJul 26 19:50
XRevan86https://youtu.be/GSLD6dDxAzM hypotheticalsJul 26 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=GSLD6dDxAzMJul 26 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidio.xamh.de | Ukraine. Biden and Putin get ready for a Nuclear War / TO BE OR - InvidiousJul 26 19:52
XRevan86https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1551952816763191297Jul 26 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: host Vladimir Solovyov and State Duma member Alexander Babakov discuss how Moscow can use stolen Ukrainian territories to prop up Russia's failing economy. As you must know by now, this was never about NATO or the Nazis—only aggression and conquest."|nitterJul 26 19:56
MinceRhttps://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/dirty.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-dirty#comic )Jul 26 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)Jul 26 19:56
XRevan86CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-25-07-26Jul 26 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telegra.ph | Dispatch for July 25 – TelegraphJul 26 20:05
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MinceR(cat) (no audio) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/1xnskJV.mp4Jul 26 20:30
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AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-iis-extensions-increasingly-used-as-exchange-backdoors/Jul 26 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft: IIS extensions increasingly used as Exchange backdoorsJul 26 20:47
MinceR:)Jul 26 20:48
AdmFubareven google says use a a last  resort...https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/the-beautiful-lies-of-machine-learning-in-securityJul 26 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | The Beautiful Lies of Machine Learning in SecurityJul 26 20:51
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DaemonFCOh my God. The FOID number put me on hold instead of just saying nobody would answer my call!Jul 26 20:51
DaemonFCIt's a miracle!Jul 26 20:51
DaemonFCI love the state. Improving all the time. :PJul 26 20:52
MinceRlolJul 26 20:52
DaemonFCI'll bet they have a secret number that the local cops can use to get right through while they make us listen to them spell out the state website and talk about COVID-19 for 6 minutes.Jul 26 20:52
DaemonFCThen if you hit the wrong button, the guy explains how to transport a firearm for so long you may as well hang up.Jul 26 20:53
AdmFubarhttps://www.databreaches.net/responsible-disclosure-divd-describes-a-long-and-windy-road-notifying-a-chinese-firm/Jul 26 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/responsible-disclosure-divd-describes-a-long-and-windy-road-notifying-a-chinese-firm/ )Jul 26 20:54
DaemonFCMinceR: The State Police and the post office got a FOID Card to the Highland Park Shooter after knowing he was dangerous.Jul 26 20:56
DaemonFCMeanwhile, I'm legally allowed to have one, don't know where the fuck it is.Jul 26 20:56
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DaemonFCThey send them right out to those kids that get expelled for threatening to blow up the school and drawing pictures of themselves shooting their classmates, complete with red pens for the blood.Jul 26 20:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▅▂▄▇▅▆▆▅▆▅▃▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 30.28 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.66▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jul 26 20:59
MinceR(dog) https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/dogtreats.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-dogtreats#comic )Jul 26 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)Jul 26 21:00
techrights-news"I have added image search to Kennedy, my Gemini search engine. Now you can search for images across all of Gemini space which matches a query." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-07-26-kennedy-image-search.gmiJul 26 21:08
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psydroid2Microsoft is society's biggest enemy when it comes to all things computing and beyondJul 26 21:15
AdmFubarhttps://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-713023Jul 26 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-713023 )Jul 26 21:17
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJul 26 21:30
AdmFubarhttps://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/07/unbeknown-to-most-americans-washington-is-offering-to-share-its-largest-biometric-database-with-other-governments.htmlJul 26 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Unbeknown to Most US Citizens, Washington is Preparing to Share Their Biometric Data With Dozens of Other National Governments | naked capitalismJul 26 21:32
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167697Jul 26 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 21:33
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DaemonFCThe guy at the state police says my old card is still valid and it's no big deal if the new one doesn't arrive, but sometimes the post office takes up to 45 days and they don't even know why.Jul 26 21:35
DaemonFCMurrica! Fuck yeah!Jul 26 21:35
DaemonFCBut I won't be in any legal trouble as long as I have a valid FOID card, which again, my old one is valid. :)Jul 26 21:36
DaemonFCSo that's awesome.Jul 26 21:36
DaemonFCStallman has too much faith in the government.Jul 26 21:36
DaemonFCI tried explaining how terrible the FOID Act is. He says he doesn't have a deep understanding of it, not being an Illinois resident. He said perhaps I'm right and it's being applied unfairly, and perhaps the police shouldn't get to be the ones to decide who gets one.Jul 26 21:37
DaemonFCThere's many people, especially black people, who need to get their FOID convictions reconsidered and overturned.Jul 26 21:39
DaemonFCIt's never been a fair law. There's many people in prison over FOID that shouldn't be there.Jul 26 21:39
schestowitz_logtest onlyJul 26 21:43
techrights-newsA quick test of MongoDB 6.0 with syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community ⚓ https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/a-quick-test-of-mongodb-6-0-with-syslog-ng ䷉ Source: syslog-ng | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/a-quick-test-of-mongodb-6-0-with-syslog-ngJul 26 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A quick test of MongoDB 6.0 with syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng CommunityJul 26 21:46
techrights-news"The Xen Project has released one or more Xen Security Advisories (XSAs). The security of Qubes OS is not affected. Therefore, no user action is required." https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2022/07/26/xsas-released-on-2022-07-26/Jul 26 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qubes-os.org | XSAs released on 2022-07-26 | Qubes OSJul 26 21:48
techrights-newsA new flaw. Severity 9.6 out of 10. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-05Jul 26 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | AutomationDirect Stride Field I/O | CISAJul 26 21:59
techrights-newsAnd another one, 9.8 out of 10 in severity. "JScript and .NET"... oh. NET... so... https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-04Jul 26 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | ICONICS Suite and Mitsubishi Electric MC Works64 Products | CISAJul 26 22:00
techrights-newsExploitable remotely/low attack complexity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-02Jul 26 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Johnson Controls Metasys ADS, ADX, OAS | CISAJul 26 22:01
techrights-newsSounds like Microsoft Windows again, but CISA is cryptic about it: "Vulnerabilities in Drive Composer allow a low-privileged user to create and write to a file anywhere on the file system as “system” with arbitrary content when the file does not already exist." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-01Jul 26 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | ABB Drive Composer, Automation Builder, Mint Workbench | CISAJul 26 22:04
techrights-news"Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities may allow a remote attacker to cause a denial-of-service condition. A system reset is required for recovery." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-334-02Jul 26 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC and MELIPC Series (Update D) | CISAJul 26 22:05
techrights-news"Improper Restriction of XML External Entity Reference" (Severity 8.5 out of 10) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-01Jul 26 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Inductive Automation Ignition | CISAJul 26 22:06
techrights-news"Authentication Bypass, Use of a Broken or Risky Cryptographic Algorithm" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-03Jul 26 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Honeywell Saia Burgess PG5 PCD | CISAJul 26 22:08
techrights-news"The affected product is vulnerable to an out-of-bounds write that may allow an attacker to overwrite values in memory, causing a denial-of-service condition or potentially bricking the device" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-04Jul 26 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | MOXA NPort 5110 | CISAJul 26 22:09
techrights-newsNumeric Variable Names With Leading Zeroes | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] ⚓ http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/07/numeric-variable-names-with-leading-zeroes.html ䷉ Source: perl | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/07/numeric-variable-names-with-leading-zeroes.htmlJul 26 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Numeric Variable Names With Leading Zeroes | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]Jul 26 22:10
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techrights-newsVIM Keyboard Shortcuts Cheatsheet - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/ ䷉ Source: maketecheasier | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/Jul 26 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | VIM Keyboard Shortcuts Cheatsheet - Make Tech EasierJul 26 22:13
DaemonFChttps://yngve.vivaldi.net/sooo-you-say-you-want-to-maintain-a-chromium-fork/Jul 26 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yngve.vivaldi.net | Yngve's corner | So, you want to maintain a Chromium fork?Jul 26 22:14
DaemonFC" Vivaldi is only using the 8-week-cycle Extended Stable releases of Chromium"Jul 26 22:19
DaemonFC8 weeks is extended stable now....Jul 26 22:19
DaemonFCLOLJul 26 22:19
techrights-newsOpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167698https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/OpenMandriva_Lx_ROME_Rolling_Technical_Preview.shtml #newsJul 26 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Tux MachinesJul 26 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical PreviewJul 26 22:21
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britneyDaemonFC, brave is currently my favourite chromium fork and my primary browserJul 26 22:24
britneywhat stops me from switching to openbsd/netbsd/freebsd? brave, element and steamJul 26 22:25
britneyi can use discord in pidgin or browserJul 26 22:25
britneyelement could be used in browser as well but i'd rather have a clientJul 26 22:25
techrights-newsLinux Mint 21 release could be imminent as testing of ISOs begins • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167699https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Linux_Mint_21_release_could_be_imminent_as_testing_of_ISOs_begins.shtml #newsJul 26 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 release could be imminent as testing of ISOs begins | Tux MachinesJul 26 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 release could be imminent as testing of ISOs beginsJul 26 22:26
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167700Jul 26 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 26 22:28
AdmFubarI'd buy that for a dollar.... https://techxplore.com/news/2022-07-microsoft-blames-economic-woes-profit.htmlJul 26 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techxplore.com | Microsoft blames economic woes for missing profit targetsJul 26 22:30
techrights-news"onciseness is often considered a virtue among hackers and software engineers. FOSS maintainers in particular generally prefer to keep bug reports, questions on mailing lists, discussions in IRC channels, and so on, close to the point and with minimal faff." https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/26/Conciseness.htmlJul 26 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | ConcisenessJul 26 22:30
techrights-newsMirantis Acquires amazee.io to Bring NoOps to K8s - Container Journal ⚓ https://containerjournal.com/features/mirantis-acquires-amazee-io-to-bring-noops-to-k8s/ ䷉ Source: containerjournal | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/mirantis-acquires-amazee-io-to-bring-noops-to-k8s/Jul 26 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | Mirantis Acquires amazee.io to Bring NoOps to K8s - Container JournalJul 26 22:32
techrights-newsGetting started with Django – A Simple CRUD application ⚓ https://citizix.com/getting-started-with-django-a-simple-crud-application/Jul 26 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizix.com | Getting started with Django – A Simple CRUD applicationJul 26 22:33
techrights-newsSUSE in Germany flirting with the company that infamously helped Microsoft attack GNU/Linux in Munich https://www.suse.com/c/tech-talks-an-hpe-and-suse-webinar-series-starting-on-aug-10/Jul 26 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tech Talks: An HPE and SUSE webinar series starting on Aug 10 | SUSE CommunitiesJul 26 22:34
techrights-newsReaffirming what I said about ICBM nuking Fedora (what's the point when there's CentOS 'streams'... a pile of steam) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/YXENHLWNVIAOYQQ746KZYRIXYQW6E2FA/Jul 26 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fedoraproject.org | Some spins/labs to be dropped from F37 - devel - Fedora Mailing-ListsJul 26 22:35
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schestowitz[TR2]wb, matey Jul 26 22:38
techuserhiJul 26 22:38
mateyhiJul 26 22:39
mateyFedora (IBM) Against CC ‘No Rights Reserved’Jul 26 22:39
mateytheres a cc no-rights-reserved?Jul 26 22:39
techuserI wonder if I should invite you to another network so you possibly tell Luis64_gamer than DaemonFC wasn't a bot. If it makes any sense at all.Jul 26 22:39
britneys/IBM/ICBMJul 26 22:39
techrights-newsGraalVM 22.2 is out today https://www.graalvm.org/downloads/Jul 26 22:39
mateyor theyre against cc0Jul 26 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.graalvm.org | GraalVMJul 26 22:39
mateycc of course, was part of the coup and ill never support themJul 26 22:40
mateythe founder was (very) pro-stallmanJul 26 22:40
mateyso imo cc turned their back on what they were founded for tooJul 26 22:40
mateycc owes its entire existence to stallmanJul 26 22:40
techrights-newsGraalVM 22.2: Smaller JDK size, improved memory usage, better library support, and more! | by Alina Yurenko | graalvm | Jul, 2022 | Medium ⚓ https://medium.com/graalvm/graalvm-22-2-smaller-jdk-size-improved-memory-usage-better-library-support-and-more-cb34b5b68ec0Jul 26 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GraalVM 22.2: Smaller JDK size, improved memory usage, better library support, and more! | by Alina Yurenko | graalvm | Jul, 2022 | MediumJul 26 22:40
mateyhypocrites of the first order, worthlessJul 26 22:41
mateyi still like cc0Jul 26 22:41
mateymaybe in the future no one will care about it-- 0-clause bsd is easier on the cut and paste / roys 14.4 modem he will never useJul 26 22:41
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britneyi used to have a 14.4 modemJul 26 22:41
mateyme tooJul 26 22:42
mateywhen it was still close enough to a reasonable expectation of speedJul 26 22:42
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britneywhen i got mine, 28.8 and 33.6 were commonJul 26 22:42
techrights-newsOmnichannel Enablement: 4 technology success factors | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/omnichannel-enablement-4-technology-success-factors ䷉ Source: ubuntu | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/omnichannel-enablement-4-technology-success-factorsJul 26 22:42
mateybut any time in the past 20 years, i didnt go lower than 28.8Jul 26 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Omnichannel Enablement: 4 technology success factors | UbuntuJul 26 22:42
britneymy best friend at the time rocked an external 56k us roboticsJul 26 22:42
schestowitz[TR2]14.44 hereJul 26 22:42
mateyaur mostly i didnt go below 56kJul 26 22:42
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matey my best friend at the time rocked an external 56k us robotics <- thats what i hadJul 26 22:42
schestowitz[TR2]*44 isa  typoJul 26 22:43
mateythe cable was insane too-- it was like at least 2m longJul 26 22:43
mateymaybe moreJul 26 22:43
britneyi miss the days of MS-DOS and Windows 3.11, dialing into BBSes and fidonetJul 26 22:43
mateyi mean the serial port cableJul 26 22:43
schestowitz[TR2]some homes had onyl; one phone socketJul 26 22:43
schestowitz[TR2]ours still doesJul 26 22:43
britneyBBSes actually still existJul 26 22:43
mateythe power lead was 1.5 m at mostJul 26 22:43
schestowitz[TR2]IIRC, we used 10 meter cable for the modemJul 26 22:43
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mateylolJul 26 22:44
schestowitz[TR2]and then cannot accept cals for a a bit... good timesJul 26 22:44
mateydo you mean for phoneJul 26 22:44
schestowitz[TR2]"sorry, matey , yeah... I was on the Internet playing FIFA"Jul 26 22:44
mateyor did you have a 10 m serial port cableJul 26 22:44
schestowitz[TR2]telephone cableJul 26 22:44
schestowitz[TR2]for the modemJul 26 22:44
mateyyeahJul 26 22:44
schestowitz[TR2]now I have 12m cable for EthernetJul 26 22:45
mateywhats nice about a 2-3 m serial port cable Jul 26 22:45
mateyis if you have a wall of low-cost computers (5 or 6) spread out across a wallJul 26 22:45
mateyand many are old enough to not have ethernet back thenJul 26 22:45
mateythen that cable will connect to any of them without moving the modemJul 26 22:46
britneyhttps://bbs.bottomlessabyss.net/Jul 26 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bbs.bottomlessabyss.net | The Bottomless Abyss BBSJul 26 22:46
mateydoesnt matter too much, it was niceJul 26 22:46
mateyits the cable that came with it (used)Jul 26 22:46
mateyits also the first device i tried to get online with gnu/linux withJul 26 22:47
mateyto no availJul 26 22:47
mateyno isp will help with thatJul 26 22:47
mateyaur forums were not too helpfulJul 26 22:47
mateyi would have switched sooner. instead i finally got rid of windows when i finally moved to high speed Jul 26 22:47
mateyby that time most of my machines had ethernetJul 26 22:48
mateyor even wifiJul 26 22:48
mateymy first usb wifi didnt work until i tried trisquelJul 26 22:48
mateyatheros etc etcJul 26 22:48
mateyi thought if the latest trisquel (back when i liked them) had better driver support than the version of ubuntu i was usingJul 26 22:49
mateythen fully-free cant be so badJul 26 22:49
mateya lot of it was just timing of course. atheros support was a new thingJul 26 22:49
mateybut when i bought that wifi it didnt workJul 26 22:49
mateyi had it in a drawerJul 26 22:49
mateywhen it started just working i was like :-OJul 26 22:50
phanesis it just me or has this channel significantly grown in size in the last 2 weeksJul 26 22:50
mateyi might as well have commanded broomsticks to move themselves and fetch pails of waterJul 26 22:50
matey<phanes> is it just me or has this channel significantly grown in size in the last 2 weeks <- omg phanes, youre shrinking!Jul 26 22:51
mateyno, its slightly busierJul 26 22:51
phanesthat's what she said?Jul 26 22:51
mateyheheheJul 26 22:51
techrights-newsUutils: Cross Platform Linux Core Utils In Rust!?! - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZIgve4YpipE | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ZIgve4YpipEJul 26 22:52
*phanes interrupts this broadcast to remind men my age to get their T levels checked annually, it's real, it happens to most men at around 40, and it can not only save your life, but your marriage too.Jul 26 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Uutils: Cross Platform Linux Core Utils In Rust!?! - InvidiousJul 26 22:52
mateyfor what, a drop?Jul 26 22:52
phaneseh?Jul 26 22:52
phanesno i meanJul 26 22:52
phaneslow T can really jam your life upJul 26 22:52
phanesand your healthJul 26 22:52
mateybut you mean low testosterone, yes?Jul 26 22:53
phanesyeahJul 26 22:53
techuserwhat does high or low testosterone do?Jul 26 22:53
techrights-newsHow to install Inkscape on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ahvlU2jpvj0"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Jul 26 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Inkscape on Pop!_OS 22.04 - InvidiousJul 26 22:54
techrights-newsHow to install Inkscape on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ahvlU2jpvj0 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ahvlU2jpvj0Jul 26 22:54
phanesapproaching 40 and afterwards you want to get bloodwork done yearly.  low T will cause you to gain weight, lose muscle, impacts your personality and drive, attention and focus, heart health, and you'll die young.  bone mass reduction.  injuries take longer to heal.Jul 26 22:54
phanesit can also cause psychological issues for some menJul 26 22:55
phanesmood, well beingJul 26 22:55
mateynot to negate anything youre sayingJul 26 22:55
phanesalso need prostate exams yearly too.  its not fun but that'll save your life around that age too.Jul 26 22:55
mateybut would the risk with low t be any worse for a cis man than it would be for a trans woman undergoing hrt?Jul 26 22:56
phanesmatey, i have no idea, i think it depends on androgen sensitivity and hormone balance, im not an endocrinologist Jul 26 22:56
mateyfair enoughJul 26 22:56
britneymy first distro was Redhat 5.2 and I couldn't get dialup internet to work :/Jul 26 22:57
phaneshormones play a huge, huge part in almost every aspect of a person's experience of lifeJul 26 22:57
phanesand can even have a big impact on personalityJul 26 22:57
mateyred hat 6, unless you count tomsrtbt and pygmy linuxJul 26 22:57
phanesnot just hormones but shifts in hormone levels and balance of hormone systemsJul 26 22:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▅▂▄▇▅▆▆▅▆▅▃▇▅▅▆▆▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 30.28 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.66▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jul 26 22:59
phanesbritney, in all fairness ppp was kinda bullshitJul 26 23:06
techrights-newsAll-time record today. Techrights Gemini capsule 50k page requests for the day.Jul 26 23:09
britneyyeah it wasJul 26 23:09
britneyi'd manage to connect and netscape wouldn't workJul 26 23:09
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britneyredhat 5.2 came with a game where you had to kill bill gatesJul 26 23:16
britneyxbillJul 26 23:16
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britneyhttp://www.xbill.org/Jul 26 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xbill.org | XBillJul 26 23:19
mateysomeone modified xbill with pictures of lennart poettering to make xlennartJul 26 23:25
mateythe reason fedora is abandoning cc0 is because it explicitly says the author doesnt waive patent issuesJul 26 23:25
britneylmao seriously?Jul 26 23:25
britneymatey, and isn't that a good thing that Fedora is doing?Jul 26 23:26
mateyosi and karl fogel made the same argument and this is why they didnt say cc0 met the osd requirementsJul 26 23:26
mateybritney: i dont knowJul 26 23:26
mateythe fsf lists cc0 as gpl compatibleJul 26 23:26
mateybut it looks like the tide is turning on cc0Jul 26 23:26
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britneygpl compatible doesn't mean you waive patent issues thoJul 26 23:26
mateyits complicatedJul 26 23:27
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mateycc0 is NOT open sourceJul 26 23:27
mateybut it IS free softwareJul 26 23:27
mateybecause it comes down to whether osi or fsf approves the licenseJul 26 23:27
britneythat is complicatedJul 26 23:27
mateyyeahJul 26 23:27
mateysimilarly osi has approved some licenses which are almost certainly non-freeJul 26 23:27
mateycomically so, and its sheer politicsJul 26 23:27
mateyblowing nasa essentiallyJul 26 23:28
mateybut this means that maybeJul 26 23:28
mateymaybeJul 26 23:28
mateypeople who would use cc0 should use 0-clause bsd insteadJul 26 23:28
mateyive favoured cc0 traditionallyJul 26 23:28
mateyi didnt know about 0-clause bsd thenJul 26 23:28
mateyand it may not have even existed when i first promoted cc0Jul 26 23:28
mateypersonally, im considering a move from cc0 to 0-clause bsdJul 26 23:29
mateyrelicensing my cc0 codeJul 26 23:29
mateyof course people can still use it under cc0 if they wantJul 26 23:29
mateyyou cant remove the option of cc0 once youve released it that wayJul 26 23:30
mateybut you can add the option of 0-clause bsdJul 26 23:30
mateywhich is the closest thing i know to cc0Jul 26 23:30
phanesOSI needs to be completely removed from the whole equation, it's a trojan horse, its like one of those fake cities they set up in north korea for international visitorsJul 26 23:30
phanesOSI == PotemkinJul 26 23:31
matey<phanes> OSI needs to be completely removed from the whole equation, itJul 26 23:32
matey100% agreeJul 26 23:32
techrights-newsLinks 26/07/2022: Tails 5.3 and OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/tails-5-3-and-openmandriva-tp/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/tails-5-3-and-openmandriva-tp/Jul 26 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/07/2022: Tails 5.3 and OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | TechrightsJul 26 23:32
mateyhowever, i have always hated karl fogel from the moment i knew he voted against cc0Jul 26 23:33
mateyand i hate ibm tooJul 26 23:33
mateybut from a strategic standpointJul 26 23:33
mateyas in making users freeJul 26 23:33
mateyand making free software workJul 26 23:33
mateymaybe theyre right about cc0.Jul 26 23:33
mateymaybe theyre full of shitJul 26 23:33
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167701https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/programming_2.shtml #newsJul 26 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Programming LeftoversJul 26 23:33
mateytoo bad we cant ask cc, because cc ARE completely worthlessJul 26 23:33
mateyand theyre certainly not on "our side" more than osi or ibm areJul 26 23:34
mateyso thats not a factor imoJul 26 23:34
mateylast time i considered this, the prognosis for cc was bad, but undeciddJul 26 23:34
techrights-newsGreenwashing and Openwashing: LF, OSI, and SUSE • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167702https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Greenwashing_and_Openwashing:_LF,_OSI,_and_SUSE.shtml #newsJul 26 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Greenwashing and Openwashing: LF, OSI, and SUSE | Tux MachinesJul 26 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Greenwashing and Openwashing: LF, OSI, and SUSEJul 26 23:34
mateytoday therye pretty much permanently fuckedJul 26 23:35
mateyanother org that stands against its own cause more than it stands for itJul 26 23:35
mateywe should possibly just let them kill themselvesJul 26 23:35
mateyive always thought the people making too much of cc0 were a bit full of shitJul 26 23:35
techrights-newsDebian and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167703https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Debian_and_CanonicalUbuntu_Leftovers.shtml #newsJul 26 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Canonical/Ubuntu LeftoversJul 26 23:36
mateybut if everyone is going to swallow this fiction-- or if its a valid point-- either way, maybe cc0 isnt worth adding to anything anymoreJul 26 23:36
mateyplus 0-clause bsd is used on some VERY good codeJul 26 23:36
mateywhile cc0... is used mostly only on code i like :)Jul 26 23:36
mateyi dont think theres going to be a golden age of cc0 code, everJul 26 23:36
techrights-newsKernel: Retbleed Woes and Turnip Status Update • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167704https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Kernel:_Retbleed_Woes_and_Turnip_Status_Update.shtml #newsJul 26 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Retbleed Woes and Turnip Status Update | Tux MachinesJul 26 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Retbleed Woes and Turnip Status UpdateJul 26 23:36
mateythe fsf approved it something like a decade ago, or moreJul 26 23:36
mateymaybe 0 clause is betterJul 26 23:37
mateylets show what it looks likeJul 26 23:37
techrights-newstoday's leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167705https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/leftovers_2.shtml #newsJul 26 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 26 23:37
mateyheres the first line of the 0-clause bsd license:Jul 26 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | today's leftoversJul 26 23:37
britneyhttps://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-FreeBSD-2021Jul 26 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running Steam's Linux Build On FreeBSD Is Becoming Increasingly Capable For Gaming - PhoronixJul 26 23:37
mateyRedistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted.Jul 26 23:37
mateythats the only lineJul 26 23:38
mateyheres the cc0 license / pd waiver: http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/Jul 26 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Creative Commons — CC0 1.0 UniversalJul 26 23:39
mateyi dont take any pleasure in agreeing with ibm, or hitler, on anything at allJul 26 23:39
mateybut if hitler says the sky is blue...Jul 26 23:39
britneylolJul 26 23:40
mateyi mean... some things are obvious no matter who says themJul 26 23:40
mateyif ibm says the sky is blue...Jul 26 23:40
mateyand it does indeed look blue...Jul 26 23:40
phanestruth is truth.  the source is irrelevant.Jul 26 23:40
mateyand loading it in a paint program and looking at the hex value even confirms its blue...Jul 26 23:40
mateyyeahJul 26 23:40
matey(the last one is irrelevant because of that fucking dress)Jul 26 23:41
techrights-news"this is awesome, both image search and regular search" Gemini has IMAGE search now. gemini://station.martinrue.com/acidus/7454a24005a24f4bba57b6e685cb09c2Jul 26 23:41
matey(no, not THAT blue dress. the one that looks gold to some people)Jul 26 23:41
mateys/irrelevant/relevant/Jul 26 23:41
mateyyou can confirm something is blueish by looking at the hex tripletJul 26 23:41
techrights-news"Xfce at some point adopted the Leafpad codebase and began improving upon it as their Mousepad editor. Mousepad initially only added tabs, and then syntax highlighting. And then, after a while, a funny thing happened" gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/vapad_0.1.0_prerelease.gmiJul 26 23:42
mateyeven if it looks gold to some peopleJul 26 23:42
mateyand people who love putting their shit in the public domain can do that with cc0Jul 26 23:43
mateythen add 0-clause in a single line Jul 26 23:43
mateyi use gpl3 sometimes, agpl sometimesJul 26 23:43
mateyfor cc0 stuff i think i might start doing 0-clause bsdJul 26 23:43
mateythe fact that cc are traitors could just make this more funJul 26 23:47
mateythe fact that 0-clause is used more often for serious code than cc0 is worth noting twiceJul 26 23:48
matey0-clause does NOT put anything in the public domainJul 26 23:48
mateyyou can actually do that with a second, separate, lineJul 26 23:48
mateysimply put a line that dedicates the work to the public domainJul 26 23:49
mateyive been promoting cc0 for years and years and yearsJul 26 23:49
mateymaybe, fuck it. not everything we thought was great turned out that wayJul 26 23:50
mateylike i said, i dont think there will ever be a golden age for cc0 worksJul 26 23:50
mateygreat idea, maybe 0-clause has accomplished moreJul 26 23:50
britneywhat does cc0 actually do?Jul 26 23:57

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