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| schestowitz | China censors the Olympics, Microsoft puts DRM in it... Internet censorship plagues journalists at Olympics | Jul 30 08:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10002... Lovely! | Jul 30 08:31 |
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| PetoKraus | ehm, fucktards. | Jul 30 08:36 |
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| schestowitz | It's getting to be the same elsewhere in pseudo-democratic (corpocratic) nations. | Jul 30 08:37 |
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| kentma1 | schestowitz: just sent you an email - it's an obituary to Joe Barr I wrote in cola, but it was quite good, so I thought you might be able to find space for it on your site. | Jul 30 10:05 |
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| schestowitz | Just responded seconds ago. | Jul 30 10:15 |
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| schestowitz | "That's an excellent piece. And yes, I'd love to share it. I assume the subject line makes a good title? Do you want attribution? | Jul 30 10:16 |
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| kentma1 | replied to the email with a yes on both counts :-) | Jul 30 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | You know..? I now remember that sort of polite confrontation from Digg... | Jul 30 10:42 |
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| kentma1 | you mean about debating points? | Jul 30 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | I accused Linux.com of running the anti-Linux ads (back then it was very aggressive... "Linux is a RISK!"... you know the gig). Anyway, Joe came to Digg and replied to the comment. He was obviously uncomfortable with the ads and he explained to me that it was the publisher's fault. | Jul 30 10:43 |
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| kentma1 | ah, yes, I see what you mean now. | Jul 30 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | As you may or may now know, Microsoft gave some dough to SourceForge and those sister sites. That's why I no longer trust Slashdot, either. The editor were also invited for a Redmond visit. They accepted the invitations. | Jul 30 10:44 |
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| kentma1 | The bias at slash has changed very significantly over the years. It used to be staunchly centered on "new" stuff, now, we'll, I don't really bother with it any more. | Jul 30 10:45 |
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| kentma1 | This will not end, at least, until MS have run out of cash! | Jul 30 10:45 |
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| schestowitz | Well, yeah... Groklaw hardly trusts many news sites, either. There's a Microsoft money trail (or partners). | Jul 30 10:46 |
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| schestowitz | I wrote about it just 2 hours ago: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30... | Jul 30 10:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/0... | Jul 30 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | Bad news for Microsoft: http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/goo... | Jul 30 11:04 |
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| kentma1 | ah - that was quick publishign :-) | Jul 30 11:06 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, probably will get some attention.I just wasn't sure if Joe wants to be remembered only as a FUD fighter. | Jul 30 11:06 |
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| kentma1 | There are plenty of other obits around for him... | Jul 30 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | I've seen just one. | Jul 30 11:08 |
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| kentma1 | ah, maybe there's only one other... | Jul 30 11:08 |
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| PetoKraus | nice. | Jul 30 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | Well, visible ones anyway | Jul 30 11:08 |
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| PetoKraus | that australia, i mean | Jul 30 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | It's Roblimo who cried as he wrote the first one. It made me very sad. | Jul 30 11:09 |
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| kentma1 | PetoKraus: just for a minute, I though you liked my piece :-) | Jul 30 11:10 |
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| PetoKraus | hehe i didn't read it yet | Jul 30 11:10 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: this things are not linear, either. Expect watchers to follow suit (NSW). | Jul 30 11:10 |
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| PetoKraus | watchers? | Jul 30 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | The Telegraph did it some days ago (bye Outlook, Office and Exchange) | Jul 30 11:11 |
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| PetoKraus | anyway, the price difference - 30M compared to 9.5M.... | Jul 30 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | Watchers as in, say... CIOs that rely on the judgment and experience of peers. Wait-and-/watchers/... that's why Microsoft keeps that Big Lie about Munich going. | Jul 30 11:12 |
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| PetoKraus | i guess i completely missed THAT big lie. | Jul 30 11:13 |
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| PetoKraus | (not reading much lately) | Jul 30 11:13 |
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| kentma1 | One of the most compelling and seductive logical fallacies is the "if someone else has done it, it must be right". It's these people that Roy is thinking of, I think - they see that someone else has done it, so feel confident in moving in the same direction with low risk. | Jul 30 11:13 |
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| kentma1 | The best solution would be to expose the fallacy, but it's so compelling and seductive that most people cannot even recognise that it /is/ a fallacy. | Jul 30 11:14 |
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| PetoKraus | it's more of a psychology, or, deep human nature (to repeat stuff after others) than... fallacy | Jul 30 11:15 |
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| kentma1 | ah, you see what I mean. It's a logical fallacy, and yet, so seductive, that you want to find any excuse to accept it as not being a fallacy... | Jul 30 11:16 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: there are seevral exceptionally-successfuly multi-thousand-workstation migrations to GNU/Linux (usually SUSE) in Germany, but Microsoft et al try to tell a story about disasters. | Jul 30 11:17 |
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| PetoKraus | Suse though. | Jul 30 11:17 |
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| kentma1 | I'm not sure that Munich is even a disaster - it was just a big job. | Jul 30 11:17 |
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| schestowitz | Two black sheep make one black sheep feel comfort. There's also less liability ("he did it too") | Jul 30 11:17 |
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| schestowitz | Munich has a Debian derivative. | Jul 30 11:18 |
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| schestowitz | It's the porting of software they use (hundreds of things) to GNU/Linux that took time. | Jul 30 11:18 |
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| PetoKraus | ehm, have a link what happened? | Jul 30 11:19 |
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| PetoKraus | google returned only 2 years old article | Jul 30 11:19 |
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| kentma1 | If you look at more extreme cases, the fallacy becomes clear. If my neighbour buys a cello and a range rover, does that mean I should buy the same? | Jul 30 11:19 |
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| PetoKraus | it depends what you want to do | Jul 30 11:19 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jul 30 11:20 |
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| kentma1 | It's essential to consider your own needs in every decision, the fact that my neighbour is a talented cellist and I'm not clearly weighs heavily. When people come to complex technical decisions, though, they find it harder to weigh the facts and are more inclined to see what someone else did. It's seductive. | Jul 30 11:20 |
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| PetoKraus | if you wanna get a jeep, get a rover :D | Jul 30 11:21 |
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| kentma1 | PetoKraus: ah, I already happen to have a landrover 110 :-) | Jul 30 11:21 |
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| PetoKraus | d'oh | Jul 30 11:21 |
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| schestowitz | In this economy (gas price)? Get a mortgage for gas, too. | Jul 30 11:21 |
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| PetoKraus | i am gonna get me Lada Niva | Jul 30 11:21 |
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| kentma1 | I recently traded in a discovery - I'm wondering if it were the right decision, though - I could run the disco on 50:50 diesel & sainsbury cooking oil. | Jul 30 11:22 |
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| PetoKraus | and change it from gasoline to gas. | Jul 30 11:22 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Jul 30 11:22 |
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| kentma1 | didn't affect the performance much :-) | Jul 30 11:22 |
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| kentma1 | the defender 110 engine needs modifications to burn oil, though. If the price keeps rising, I might see if I can get them done, though. | Jul 30 11:23 |
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| PetoKraus | hehe | Jul 30 11:23 |
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| PetoKraus | i use public transport and not even consider getting license soon. | Jul 30 11:23 |
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| kentma1 | cooking oil, I mean. Diesel is oil, of course :-) | Jul 30 11:23 |
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| PetoKraus | yes, i know ;) | Jul 30 11:23 |
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| PetoKraus | sainsbury can't sell diesel as cooking oil. i hope. | Jul 30 11:24 |
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| *schestowitz trying to find an article from The Register | Jul 30 11:24 |
| kentma1 | I mostly travel for work by public transport, but there are some things which just don't work that way. | Jul 30 11:24 |
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| kentma1 | PetoKraus: hehe - some of it tastes so bad, I wonder :-) | Jul 30 11:24 |
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| PetoKraus | you know, i shop at sommerfield mostly (when in the UK) | Jul 30 11:24 |
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| schestowitz | Haha. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07... | Jul 30 11:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/2... "Stop giving the Terrrrrrrissssttsssss more ideas!" | Jul 30 11:25 |
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| kentma1 | :-D | Jul 30 11:25 |
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| schestowitz | Xtreeeme recycling. | Jul 30 11:26 |
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| kentma1 | This is why I was using the oil /before/ i'd cooked with it - just mixing it with the diesel was okay 8-) | Jul 30 11:26 |
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| PetoKraus | hmm | Jul 30 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | If the price of oil goes back on the upside, people might start thinking of 'sacrificing' their children (and maybe not in the orphanage sense). | Jul 30 11:26 |
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| PetoKraus | haha | Jul 30 11:27 |
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| kentma1 | schestowitz: uk! | Jul 30 11:27 |
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| schestowitz | What about it? | Jul 30 11:27 |
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| kentma1 | sacrificing my kids? | Jul 30 11:27 |
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| PetoKraus | Once the boys in blue realise that chip fat can be a weapon of terr'r, they'll pounce on anyone with a dodgy accent found loitering near deep fat friers. ie the scotch. | Jul 30 11:27 |
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| PetoKraus | haah! this is good :D | Jul 30 11:27 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, I've just taken a look at Webalizer (first time in a month). The traffic in BN.com has increased consistency every single month over the past 12 months. It's at an average of 15,500 pageviews per day now. Scary. | Jul 30 11:27 |
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| kentma1 | I don't have an altar with channels in for such activities :-) | Jul 30 11:28 |
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| schestowitz | The other thing about poor economies is corporate misery, which leads to bad stuff. | Jul 30 11:28 |
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| kentma1 | wow - that's some hit rate. | Jul 30 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | Watch Microsoft vs Yahoo's board, Novell selling out, Apache... well, taking some dough. If the economy is bad, people will 'prostitute' themselves and the rich ones can capitalise some more. (RIAA included) | Jul 30 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | GL probably has about 10 times that number, but mathfox turned logging off so that the AMD server can cope. | Jul 30 11:30 |
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| PetoKraus | ha, they're hacking splashtop | Jul 30 11:31 |
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| PetoKraus | great | Jul 30 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | Yes. | Jul 30 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | I kept quiet about it. | Jul 30 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | Script boyz will be script boyz | Jul 30 11:32 |
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| PetoKraus | i just don't get why did they make it proprietary | Jul 30 11:32 |
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| PetoKraus | it's like.... pointless. | Jul 30 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | Parts of it were open. | Jul 30 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | It was on ZDNet... David, IIRC. | Jul 30 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | Found it: http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog... | Jul 30 11:32 |
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| kentma1 | interesting... one wonders why Asus didn't go for something 100% open. | Jul 30 11:34 |
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| PetoKraus | well, who knows. Asus is weird. They are having great ideas but they mess up the nuances | Jul 30 11:35 |
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| PetoKraus | (Xandros. Splashtop) | Jul 30 11:35 |
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| schestowitz | Xandros won't last for long | Jul 30 11:36 |
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| schestowitz | Canonical take a p00per on a lot of the desktop players, Mandriva included. It has hype going for it given that's it's a decent product with quality _on par_ with many. | Jul 30 11:36 |
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| PetoKraus | well | Jul 30 11:41 |
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| PetoKraus | i installed ubuntu few days ago | Jul 30 11:41 |
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| PetoKraus | there's only one thing missing... | Jul 30 11:41 |
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| PetoKraus | cinelerra. Other than that, i'd recommend it to everyone, except hard-core guys (gentoo ftw there) | Jul 30 11:41 |
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| schestowitz | I've had Ubuntu running on some boxes over the years, but SUSE and Mandriva give it a run for the money. | Jul 30 11:42 |
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| schestowitz | BTW: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Ins... | Jul 30 11:43 |
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| PetoKraus | hehe. anyway, the thing i don't like is mono-infection in ubuntu. | Jul 30 11:43 |
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| schestowitz | They named it after Uwe Thiem, which is nice. http://dot.kde.org/1217341401/ | Jul 30 11:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02... Mark: "At this stage we see no significant issues with patents and Mono." | Jul 30 11:45 |
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| PetoKraus | well yes, i know. | Jul 30 11:52 |
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| PetoKraus | anyway, there's been nice long discussion on E's mailinglist about license for whole EFL | Jul 30 11:53 |
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| schestowitz | " E's mailinglist"? | Jul 30 11:54 |
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| PetoKraus | enlightenment | Jul 30 11:54 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, *that* E. :-) E17 | Jul 30 11:56 |
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| schestowitz | Isn't it maintained by just one Belgian guy who publishes ELive? | Jul 30 11:56 |
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| PetoKraus | haha, no, not really | Jul 30 11:56 |
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| PetoKraus | elive is a distribution of debian + enlightenment | Jul 30 11:56 |
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| PetoKraus | that belgian guy has not much to do with E development | Jul 30 11:57 |
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| PetoKraus | http://exchange.enlightenment.org | Jul 30 11:57 |
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| PetoKraus | they did a new page lately, cool api... though the release date is still in far future | Jul 30 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | Wasn't there a SF.net page? Which reminds me of how appalling it is that Slashdot is now by association sponsored by Microsoft. There's a reader exodus and no developer exodus, yet. | Jul 30 11:58 |
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| PetoKraus | i doubt it'll ever be released | Jul 30 11:59 |
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| schestowitz | Isn't it always "in development"? | Jul 30 12:00 |
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| PetoKraus | well, almost looks like. | Jul 30 12:01 |
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| schestowitz | Re SF.net, it's good to have Google hosting around cause it'll never accept Microsoft money. I have a project on SF.net, but Microsoft will ruins things. it serves them well if they ruin these site and dissipate participants with junk posts, Microsoft ads, anti-Linux trolling, etc. They did this with SF.net when they picked anti-FOSS awards (likely to get used, get users sued). | Jul 30 12:01 |
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| PetoKraus | but it's perfectly stable. | Jul 30 12:01 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, so I hear. | Jul 30 12:02 |
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| schestowitz | When I say SF.net I refer to 'child' sites too, i.e. IT Manager Journal, Newsforge, linux.com, Slashdot... | Jul 30 12:02 |
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| schestowitz | And now they ruin Datamation (Jupitermedia) too, which had me lose interest in publishing there ever aqain. Brian Profffitt left them recently to do LDN and he hated the Microsoft ads too. They suddnly came in massive numbers as soon as he left LT and Carla took over. | Jul 30 12:04 |
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| kentma1 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07... | Jul 30 13:31 |
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| kentma1 | mccreevy is determined to create himself a long-term job here. | Jul 30 13:32 |
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| *schestowitz looks | Jul 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Uh oh!! | Jul 30 13:33 |
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| schestowitz | That's the 'Community' patent back door, I think. I'll read on. | Jul 30 13:33 |
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| schestowitz | It's the Microsoft-funded scum (ACT, among others) which pushes for this. They try to poison and pollute the system with monopolies and choke anything that's peer-produced or shared. | Jul 30 13:35 |
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| kentma1 | the garbage about "subsidised" patent claims is particularly revolting. | Jul 30 13:35 |
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| kentma1 | It's just trying to drag everyone into the system so that they can be squeezed. Mccreevy deserves investigation - he really does seem to be on someone's payroll in some way, or he's just exceptionally gullible. | Jul 30 13:36 |
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| kentma1 | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/... | Jul 30 13:36 |
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| kentma1 | ps3 is doing well, although sony as a whole are not. | Jul 30 13:37 |
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| kentma1 | One suspects a combination of chinese competition and a recession. | Jul 30 13:37 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, McCreevy is like Santa Clauf to the IP monopolies. | Jul 30 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://osindia.blogspot.com/2008/07/paten... | Jul 30 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.prweb.com/release... | Jul 30 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft appears to be moving off Windows (though Mary Jo Foley begs to dffer). http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/30... | Jul 30 16:09 |
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| shyam_k | microkernel-based OS? so next is 236 patent cases against hurd? | Jul 30 16:11 |
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| shyam_k | ;-) they should do it that way.. | Jul 30 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | How is Hurd coming along anyway? I occasionally read about it. Microsoft has Xenis. | Jul 30 16:13 |
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| schestowitz | *Xenix. | Jul 30 16:13 |
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| SeveredCross | Quiet here. | Jul 30 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | Yes. Feel free to bring up a topic or idea. | Jul 30 18:05 |
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| SeveredCross | Nah, just wanna listen in. | Jul 30 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | The chats are bursty (fashion-wise). it's idle most of the time, but sometimes there's a more engaging conversation. | Jul 30 18:07 |
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| SeveredCross | I happened upon the website, and while I can't say I agree with your points, I figured I'd listen in on the conversation some. | Jul 30 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | One thing worth writing about tomorrow is probably the marketing (almost half a billion spent on brainwash at the moment). It's a turning point. The compatibility argument changes a wee bit if you consider the recession and the fact that not many people will buy compatible hardware for that 'new' OS (not Mojave). | Jul 30 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | I'm trying to get sorted out a Web-based access to the IRc channel. | Jul 30 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Does anyone know mibbit? | Jul 30 21:08 |
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| SeveredCross | Yes, but not very well. | Jul 30 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | It works fine with mibbit servers, but now with Freenode. | Jul 30 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | Okay, I've just cracked the first barrier... | Jul 30 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | I think I know what's blocking it. | Jul 30 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... that didn't work. | Jul 30 21:46 |
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| SeveredCross | Uhm the reason it's getting banned is not the channel, it's freenode. | Jul 30 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Oh. | Jul 30 21:46 |
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| SeveredCross | Freenode has some strange strict rules about banning clients like Mibbit, etc. | Jul 30 21:46 |
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| SeveredCross | Try to use CGI::IRC, it might not be banned. | Jul 30 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | But it worked before [H]omer set up this rule. | Jul 30 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | He banned it cause trolls came from there. | Jul 30 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | I'm sure it worked fine before. See http://boycottnovell.com/index... | Jul 30 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | What's more, I saw other sites linking to freenode from mibbit. I'll try again. | Jul 30 21:49 |
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| SeveredCross | Hmm. | Jul 30 21:50 |
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| *ChanServ has kicked mib_q19bm4 from #boycottnovell (Banned: Get a real IRC client) | Jul 30 21:50 |
| moparx | check your channel settings. it is set for auto kick/ban for that host | Jul 30 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | No luck. | Jul 30 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | Oh. | Jul 30 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | Do banning and kicking work separately? | Jul 30 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | I was simply blocked when it was on ban. | Jul 30 21:51 |
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| *#boycottnovell Banlist: Wed Jul 30 20:52:06 *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* ChanServ!ChanServ@services. | Jul 30 21:51 |
| *#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List | Jul 30 21:51 |
| schestowitz | It's strange. I remove the rule (ban) [H]omer set up, but it comes back when mibbit connects. | Jul 30 21:52 |
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| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* | Jul 30 21:53 |
| *#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List | Jul 30 21:53 |
| moparx | it shouldn't come back if you remove the akick. removing just from the channel ban list wont do anything | Jul 30 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | akick? | Jul 30 21:53 |
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| moparx | type this: /msg chanserv akick #boycottnovell list | Jul 30 21:54 |
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| >chanserv<akick #boycottnovell list | Jul 30 21:54 |
| -ChanServ-AKICK list for #boycottnovell: | Jul 30 21:54 |
| -ChanServ-1: *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* Get a real IRC client [modified: 5 weeks, 4 days, 14:51:52 ago] | Jul 30 21:54 |
| -ChanServ-Total of 1 entry in #boycottnovell's AKICK list. | Jul 30 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see. | Jul 30 21:54 |
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| *#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List | Jul 30 21:54 |
| schestowitz | How do I clear the kick? | Jul 30 21:54 |
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| moparx | use del | Jul 30 21:55 |
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| >chanserv<akick #boycottnovell del *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* | Jul 30 21:55 |
| -ChanServ-*!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* has been removed from the AKICK list for #boycottnovell. | Jul 30 21:55 |
| moparx | '/msg chanserv akick #boycottnovell del blahblahblah' | Jul 30 21:55 |
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| *#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List | Jul 30 21:55 |
| schestowitz | OK. I'll test it now. | Jul 30 21:55 |
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| mib_m8odp7 | Hello world. | Jul 30 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Wow, that's quite some lag. Like 10 seconds. | Jul 30 21:58 |
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| mib_m8odp7 | Hello world. | Jul 30 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | better than nothing, I guess. | Jul 30 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | I'll modify the site now. Thanks a milion, moparx and SeveredCross. | Jul 30 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | *million | Jul 30 21:59 |
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| moparx | No Problem | Jul 30 22:00 |
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