Bonum Certa Men Certa

Even Microsoft Uses Free Software, So Why Does Novell Harness Microsoft?

Does Novell send the message that Microsoft trumps Free software?

It need not really be news that Microsoft's Hotmail might still be running on FOSS. Whether that's true or not, Microsoft uses a lot of GNU/Linux in-house, but the company is understandably too shy to talk about it. It's not good for its marketing people (morale and sales pitch), but it's good for its internal business which cannot rely on Windows.



One reader has pointed out the following old article.

Microsoft Corp., even while mounting a new campaign against open-source software, has quietly been using such free computer code in several major products, as well as on key portions of a popular Web site -- despite denying last week that it did so.

Software connected with the FreeBSD open-source operating system is used in several places deep inside several versions of Microsoft's Windows software, such as in the "TCP/IP" section that arranges all connections to the Internet. The company also uses FreeBSD on numerous "server" computers that manage major functions at its Hotmail free e-mail service, whose registered users exceed 100 million and make it one of the Web's busiest sites.

Microsoft acknowledged its repeated use of open-source code Friday, in response to questions about the matter. Just two days earlier, it had specifically denied the existence of any such software at Hotmail.


According to all of this, Microsoft truly believes that Free software is capable. It considers it to be the #1 competitor.

Adobe rightly points out that Microsoft does not take GNU/Linux seriously when it comes to fair treatment though. In fact, there will never be a version of Silverlight for GNU/Linux. There is just a poor copycat.

Ludwig [of Adobe] also questioned Microsoft's commitment to "making it [Silverlight] fully functional across operating systems." Yet, Microsoft is working with Novell to deliver Silverlight functionality on Linux in a project known as Moonlight.


The original plan was for Moonlight to serve as a second-class Web browser plug-in, but Miguel made it clear last week that he wants to also emulate WPF and make it part of the desktop. In other words, it's almost as though Novell reverse-engineers everything that Microsoft wants Windows to be. This was discussed in the IRC channel a few days ago.

One person says: "If I want Microsoft I'd use Windows. Thanks but not thanks." Another issue is raised here.

In its own domain, Mono is reasonably successful, but again, it rides right off the back of everything Microsoft does. It ignores the past twenty five years of history, and totally ignores Novell's own experience.


A few hours ago, another enlightening comment was posted to explain just why Moonlight is Novell's recognised trap, as well as Microsoft's. Here is what Microsoft says:

"Moonlight is usable for anyone on any distribution of Linux (redhat, ubuntu, etc.) -- it is not limited just to Novell as Mono is." -Brian Goldfarb [Microsoft]

There you have it from Silverlight's lead dev. So clearly MS believes that only Novell via the 'patent covenant' can use Mono. So this clearly tells us that since Moonlight depends on Mono libs, it is a potential patent trap.


Does anyone still think that Mono and Moonlight do not belong in the bit bucket? Moonlight requires Mono. A Microsoft senior openly says that Mono is limited just to Novell.

Steve Ballmer license
Image from Wikimedia

Comments

Recent Techrights' Posts

Our IRC Community Turns 17 Very Shortly
A few years from now our IRC community will turn 20
Linux Foundation Buys Misleading Puff Pieces About Itself, Earns Some LLM Slop to Accompany the PR (Openwashing and Propaganda as a Service, With the Brand "Linux" Needlessly Borrowed)
Isn't it funny that after the "LF" (misusing the brand "Linux") flooded the Web with press releases and fake articles (that it had paid for) it now gets some LLM slop doing the same?
 
[Video] Richard Stallman on What Patents Would Have Done to Music (Covered by Copyrights)
Our WebM version can be played using Free software, independently of the availability of Invidious mirrors
Microsoft Destroys and Exploits, It Does Not Create
A race to nowhere
It's About So Much More Than 2 Microsofters, It's About Freedom to Speak About Crimes at Microsoft
Suffice to say, if some people related to our professional field attack women and get arrested for it, then there's nothing immoral about relaying this information
Links 22/03/2025: Social Security Attacks and More Attacks on the Press
Links for the day
Gemini Links 22/03/2025: INTERPOL, DDoS by "Hey Hi" Hype, and RSS/Feed Readers
Links for the day
Links 22/03/2025: Alzheimer Research and Mega-breaches in the US
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 21, 2025
IRC logs for Friday, March 21, 2025
Gemini Links 21/03/2025: Leasehold, LOTI, and Project Managers
Links for the day
Links 21/03/2025: Energy Facilities Under Fire (or on Fire), EU "Solidarity with Ukraine" and First Console
Links for the day
Links 21/03/2025: "IBM cuts Thousands" and Outlook Outage Again (Microsoft Looks for Excuses)
Links for the day
Gemini Links 21/03/2025: "Happy Spring" and Leaving "The Enterprise"
Links for the day
Many Articles About Layoffs Are Still Fake, Still LLM Slop, Even About IBM Layoffs
No wonder tech and tech journalism are getting so much worse
Speak More About the GNU Manifesto (40 Years Old This Month), It Helps Remind People That GNU/Linux Was Started by Richard Stallman and the Ultimate Goal is Freedom
We generally encourage people to speak about Software Freedom
Slappification: Using More SLAPP to Cover Up SLAPP and Chaining SLAPPs (From Microsoft) in a Failed Bid to Censor Techrights
How low can a person with a law degree stoop?
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 20, 2025
IRC logs for Thursday, March 20, 2025
Hidden from coroners and the public: tech industry cultural contagion
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Richard Stallman on Patents
uploaded a day ago by Aleksandar Popovic
What Happened to the Open Source Initiative (OSI) Elections: Leaking Information of Members (Even in 2025)
More nonsense about Hey Hi (AI), which OSI has been openwashing on Microsoft's payroll
Recommended New Article From Dr. Andy Farnell and Some Site Miscellany
Andy says he and his daughter successfully avoid GAFAM
Links 20/03/2025: Executions in China and Crackdowns on Science in the US
Links for the day
Gemini Links 20/03/2025: Ubuntu Shafting Common Sense and Blocking of Bots of the Net
Links for the day
Links 20/03/2025: IBM Layoffs (Thousands Reportedly Laid Off) and Lots More Corruption in the White House
Links for the day
Techrights Will Never Capitulate to Threats From Microsofters
Set aside violence against women and all sorts of other things; it's not about personal issues
The Microsoft-Led Open Source Initiative (OSI) is Hurting, It'll Try to Hurt Its Critics and Exposers Now
The OSI's chief meanwhile issues a bunch of meaningless waffle, a sort of "damage control" or "face-saving" platitudes
Apple is Still an Enemy of Open Standards and Software Freedom
Apple did not get any more benign
Gemini Links 20/03/2025: Wanting the Future Back and "Society That Lost Focus"
Links for the day
Fake Articles About GNOME
betanews again
Richard Stallman's Personal Site Says He's Looking for More Opportunities to Speak in Europe
He does not charge people for the talk
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 19, 2025
IRC logs for Wednesday, March 19, 2025
Debian Pregnancy Cluster, when I stopped using IRC
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Mass Layoffs at IBM Confirmed
Thousands believed to have been laid off