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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: October 30th, 2008 - Part 1

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twitter" whenever I was involved in some specific situations or was having some solid information on them, I was able to read accurate reports on these."  Nice.Oct 30 00:29
schestowitzHe has the OOo people reading his blog, so he has to be careful about associating himself. I'm in good terms with him.Oct 30 00:30
schestowitzThat's also why so many readers never leave a comment  (visibility) and just lurk instead.Oct 30 00:31
twitterTruth talks, bullshit walks.  That's what free conversations get to.  This is why the trolls are so nasty.  M$ is not fighting free software, they are fighting truth itself.Oct 30 00:34
twitterThey ultimately bank on most people forming opinions without being able to research.Oct 30 00:35
schestowitzThere is another known issue.Oct 30 00:37
schestowitzIt is often said that journalists base their writings on 'facts', where 'facts' is something other journalists states.Oct 30 00:37
schestowitz*stated. The problem is introduced when the 'pool' get polluted by the likes of Rob Enderle, Pete Galli and other moles with agenda. You then have lies spiraling and becoming truth in the minds of people.Oct 30 00:38
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twitterThe web eliminates barriers to finding the truth.  Intermediaries are better informed when everyone can read the blogs of those involved and the shelf life of shills goes down from years to months.Oct 30 01:20
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twitterHeh, I just realized M$ has now gone three years without anything for the Christmas greed fest.  Vista launched on January 30.  The next year they could not get a service pack out in time.  This year everyone knows that SP1 did not fix anything.  Vista 7, of course, is no where ready to launch.Oct 30 03:11
twitterNo product, no sales, no problems for the rest of the world.Oct 30 03:11
twitterhttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/technology/b...Oct 30 03:12
twitter “We got feedback from reviews, from the press, a few bloggers here and there, oh, and some commercials,” ha ha.Oct 30 03:12
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MinceRj0Oct 30 09:23
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_poli...  "Iceland's prime minister Geir Haarde said it was "not very pleasant" to learn that anti-terror laws were being used to deal with the company."Oct 30 09:34
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tessierZFS is amazing. I really hope it finds its way into Linux someday soon.Oct 30 10:00
tessierI may have to play with zfs-on-fuseOct 30 10:00
schestowitzHave you seen the links yet?Oct 30 10:01
tessierWhich links?Oct 30 10:01
schestowitzI posted a link to a ZFS article half an hour ago (in BN)Oct 30 10:01
*tessier looksOct 30 10:01
tessier"The ZFS filesystem, which is used by OpenSolaris, offers some advantages over Linux-based filesystems."Oct 30 10:03
tessierTotal understatement.Oct 30 10:03
tessierLinux has nothing which even remotely compares and even btrfs which won't be ready for production for a couple more years probably won't compare.Oct 30 10:03
schestowitzbtrfs is coming to Linux.Oct 30 10:04
schestowitzOhOct 30 10:04
tessierZFS is going to be pretty darn hard to beat.Oct 30 10:04
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/200...Oct 30 10:19
schestowitzvhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technolo... "Cybercrime in the UK rose by more than 9% in 2007, according to a new report."Oct 30 10:31
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MinceRi hope btrfs is completed soonOct 30 10:33
schestowitzTech layoffs: The scorecard (updated) < http://news.cnet.com/tech-layoff... >Oct 30 10:37
schestowitzVista 7 already breached. :-) http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10076... ( Microsoft issues security patch for unreleased software )Oct 30 10:38
schestowitzPrebundling dirty tricks.  "How about comparisons with Microsoft? Pretty soon, Microsoft will be able to claim that all the people who have Server 2008 have Hyper-V, won't it? " < http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10076377-... >Oct 30 10:41
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schestowitzMicrosoft boosters seem to appear in the comments here... about SIlver Lie powered by GNU/Linux servers.. Microsoft, Akamai team up on high-def video streams < http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-100... >Oct 30 10:46
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McCainYou're pwned, hahaha! http://beranger.org/index.php?page=dia...Oct 30 11:08
schestowitzWhat do you mean?Oct 30 11:09
McCainYou have a lame choice, and you don't even know whether your vote is gonna be correctly casted!Oct 30 11:10
McCainYou will die in a painful crisis...Oct 30 11:10
McCainGonna eat some democrats now...Oct 30 11:11
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MinceRhttp://forums.macosxhints.com/showt...Oct 30 11:54
MinceRlulzOct 30 11:54
schestowitzStar Trek.Oct 30 11:58
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McCainObama a commie: The Great Depression: America 1929-1941 [Paperback by Robert S. McelvaineOct 30 12:05
McCainSory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMfeypnAz6kOct 30 12:05
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MinceRsounds like somebody wants *!?=5623500a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/* to be banned :>Oct 30 12:09
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schestowitzThey use gateways to troll. It'll probably end soon.Oct 30 12:13
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MinceRmibbit puts their real ip in the username field thoughOct 30 12:14
MinceRin hexadecimal formOct 30 12:14
MinceR(as do most cgi:irc sites)Oct 30 12:14
schestowitzIs there a quick DNS lookup tool for hex?Oct 30 12:15
MinceRhttp://kasia.asi.pwr.wroc.pl...Oct 30 12:16
MinceRthis is the one i knowOct 30 12:16
MinceRdoesn't seem to want to loadOct 30 12:16
MinceRbut it's easy to hack one up in pythonOct 30 12:16
schestowitz Dell Hit With Discrimination Class-action Lawsuit < http://www.pcworld.com/article/1530... >Oct 30 12:16
MinceRor you could search the web for hex2ipOct 30 12:16
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schestowitzNot the same IPs.Oct 30 12:18
schestowitzMaybe some AstroTurfing thing, but there was a link to Beranger, some it's someone who knows BN, not some sort of viral FreeNode campaign.Oct 30 12:18
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/153016/e... "A controversial video posted to YouTube shows a touchscreen e-voting machine going haywire. Should you be worried? See for yourself."Oct 30 12:19
schestowitz"The clerk then explains the "vote-flipping" problem away by saying it must need to be recalibrated. He then does that by inserting a special recalibration card, which is designed to ensure that when touching a particular spot on the voting machine screen, a specific candidate is chosen."Oct 30 12:20
schestowitzIf these people built planes.............Oct 30 12:20
MinceRsame usernameOct 30 12:22
MinceRand mibbitOct 30 12:22
MinceRthat means he's from the same ipOct 30 12:22
*schestowitz sets ban on McCain!*@*Oct 30 12:23
schestowitzI ike the sound of that. America should do the same.Oct 30 12:23
schestowitzMitsubishi Electric Cuts Sales, Profit Forecast on Slowdown < http://www.pcworld.com/article/153037/.ht... >; this leads to trolling and desperation... Pioneer Wins PDP Patent Suit Against Samsung SDI < http://www.pcworld.com/article/153034/.ht... >. Lawyers wins. Yay!Oct 30 12:25
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/153018/... (Job Cuts in India's Call Centers and BPO Likely) and http://www.pcworld.com/article... ( Nintendo Sales up Outside Japan but Profit Forecast Cut ). Apple's h/w monopoly  at risk again.........Psystar Beats Apple to Blu-ray on OS X Computer <  http://www.pcworld.com/article/152... >Oct 30 12:27
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schestowitzComments worth nothing: http://blogs.computerworld.com/ubunt...Oct 30 12:44
schestowitz"You are missing the whole point of open source software. None of the features in Ubuntu belong to anyone, they belong to all of us, and are the result of unselfish collaboration of a whole community of contributors."Oct 30 12:44
schestowitz"These features are included in Ubuntu, thus they are Ubuntu's features. Nice try."Oct 30 12:44
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PetoKrausoh godOct 30 13:05
PetoKraus"Instead of this form of Nazism, I would prefer things to Just Work. Don't tell me to buy another hardware, when I own this old laptop for 7 years already!"Oct 30 13:05
PetoKrausSomeone is unwilling to understand, that no one at Debian cares about Beranger's need. God, everyone knows that Debian packages are mostly out-dated, you can't even get DeCSS from their official repositories - why keep trashing the old ash again and again? Debian is not for you. Okay, we understand, now move on.Oct 30 13:06
schestowitzGreat example of abusing the  term "open source": Microsoft's Ozzie Talks Open Source, Azure and MoreOct 30 13:06
schestowitzAnd this: http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content_display/ne...Oct 30 13:06
schestowitz'Interoperability' nonsense: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-De... "Absolutely.  And not in interoperability for interoperability's sake—interoperability because that's what customers do, that's what customers want, that's what customers need." Oct 30 13:07
schestowitzPetoKraus: yes, Beranger is annoying some projects. The power of forks: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_...Oct 30 13:09
PetoKrausi guess he'll start trashing Gnewsense for not including firmwareOct 30 13:09
schestowitzHe did.Oct 30 13:10
schestowitzHe trashes the GPL too.Oct 30 13:10
schestowitzAnd BSD.Oct 30 13:10
schestowitzEverything he tries, he breaks...Oct 30 13:10
PetoKrausoh godOct 30 13:11
PetoKrausit's fun to read stillOct 30 13:11
PetoKrausit's like poking fun at retarded peopleOct 30 13:12
PetoKrausyou are not allowed to do it openlyOct 30 13:12
PetoKrausbut everyone laughs on the inside.Oct 30 13:12
schestowitzHe used to be worse.Oct 30 13:13
PetoKrausreally?Oct 30 13:13
schestowitzhttp://www.beranger.org/edito2008/index.php He went on 'strike' last year.Oct 30 13:14
schestowitzMy bug is still ignores/not assigned: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172266Oct 30 13:15
PetoKrausuhmOct 30 13:17
PetoKrausyeah. that's why i don't use mainstream softwareOct 30 13:17
PetoKrausE's bugs are fixed very fast...Oct 30 13:17
PetoKrausright, since I took day off today, I guess I should at least tidy it up here....Oct 30 13:18
PetoKrausttylOct 30 13:18
PetoKraushahaOct 30 13:21
PetoKrausi am starting to learn the act of trollingOct 30 13:21
PetoKraushttp://www.irc.gjh.sk/pastebin/687Oct 30 13:22
PetoKrausi don't even know that girl, she just added me on facebook....Oct 30 13:22
schestowitzThere are spammers/scammers like that.Oct 30 13:23
schestowitzBe suspicious if sexy girls start 'befriending' 100s of people. It's bots and such stuff.Oct 30 13:24
PetoKrausi knowOct 30 13:24
PetoKrausthat's why i asked.Oct 30 13:24
schestowitzWhich is a shame really because nowadays when people become your 'friend' (I have like 3000 in Digg), you don't really know what that means. 'Friends catalog'...Oct 30 13:24
schestowitz*LOL*Oct 30 13:25
schestowitzMargaux is watching obamas tv spot with the college dems! He just makes sense. Plain and simple.  12:13amOct 30 13:26
schestowitz - 5 CommentsOct 30 13:26
schestowitz Peter Kraus at 1:44am October 30Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzWho pays you to do this, seriously.Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzMargaux Wright at 2:21am October 30Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzIm not getting paid to do anything, caring about the future of my country and therefor my own future is not a job and having an interest in politics and relevant current events is not anything I should have to apologize for or act sheepish about. This is my profile and my status and I can say and post whatever the hell I want on it. If you didnt ...  Read Moremean that in a negative way, than I WILL apologize for sounding bitchy, IOct 30 13:26
schestowitzm tired and on edge since its so close to the election. If you did mean it in a negative way, well, good luck with that.Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzLiz Tauben at 2:47am October 30Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzpeter's right. why do you care so much? its not like politics are important or affect your life at all..god margaux.Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzJess Mahon at 5:12am October 30Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzwhoa. calm down little lady. or you'll get a spankin.Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzMargaux Wright at 10:47am October 30Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzYou know Lizzie youre right, I dont know what I was thinking, I mean its not like either of us is in political science or international relations or anything hahaha and Jessie: I'll never calm down! :POct 30 13:26
PetoKrausyou didn't need to paste it here, really :POct 30 13:26
PetoKrausi mean, she's 19teen, ffs!Oct 30 13:26
schestowitzGirl3645: "I'm feeling bored"Oct 30 13:27
schestowitzGirl3645 added "dude3221", ""dude3223431", "dude3221", "dude3334221", "dude334221", "dude3221", "dude322561", "dude3225661", "dude3221", "dude322651", "dude328721", "dude322781", "dude3221", "dude3278721", "dude3221" as a friendOct 30 13:27
PetoKrausyeah, though, it's hard to spotOct 30 13:28
PetoKrausi am still in doubt of her being engineeredOct 30 13:28
schestowitzIt's sad thing really.Oct 30 13:28
schestowitzThere are /real/ girls (or guys) out there who want to make friends online, but you don't know what's human and what's a bot from Korea or whatever...Oct 30 13:29
schestowitzCanonical$$$$$$4: Landscape 1.2 Released with More Customizable Features < http://blog.canonical.com/?p=59 >Oct 30 13:29
schestowitz" This entry was posted on Wednesday, October 29th" (a day before the hype grandeur)Oct 30 13:30
schestowitzVolunteer harvesting (not that it's a bad thing): http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1702 ( Ubuntu Open Week Mon 3 Nov - Fri 7 Nov 2008 )Oct 30 13:32
schestowitzSabayon 4 for Gentooers: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=199Oct 30 13:34
schestowitzLinus dresses up as a Penguin (tux) for Halloween: http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/20...Oct 30 13:38
MinceR:)Oct 30 13:45
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schestowitzMeanwhile, H-P seems to be dumping SLED, replacing it with its own version/variant based on Debian*untu with  a proprietary layer. I look forward to Novell's response, if any. MSI is looking to replace SUSE with Ubuntu as well.. they look into something that looks like OS X for whatever reason.Oct 30 13:50
schestowitzHey, CTOOSEAJ Oct 30 13:50
CTOOSEAJKFSDKFKFPDFOCVGFMHVGJMHVGFJMHMHJKMHKJKUKUKUKMHJKOct 30 13:50
CTOOSEAJJMHMHJMHJVGMHKMHMHCVGMHJOct 30 13:50
schestowitz:-sOct 30 13:51
CTOOSEAJJJIJIIJMHJILKLLŞŞŞOPĞPOITRFEMHYTOct 30 13:52
schestowitzI understand that the Linux Foundations is funded by Intel, but it would be worth bearing in mind what Intel did to OLPC. Intel cares for GNU/Linux only for selfish gain. Given an opportunity (cash), it attacks or exploits it. I can't wait for ARM to enter this race with energy-efficient, cost-reduced sub-notebooks that run Linux.Oct 30 13:58
schestowitzhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogEOct 30 14:02
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MinceRhow does ARM compare to Atom?Oct 30 14:11
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schestowitzI don't know exactly, but those Intel x86 chips are still eating lots of battery.Oct 30 14:12
schestowitzCompared to Geode I'd imagine. That's why they HAD to 'kill' the OLPC, battering it endlessly. Intel is like Vista... just sucking up everything that's available.Oct 30 14:13
schestowitzBTW, according to reports, there's pressure on Yahoo to approach Microsoft. The type of games Microsoft played to foil Yahoo! negotiations are REVOLTING! That company is more of a political movement than a software, legal, and marketing firm.Oct 30 14:14
twitterIt's a cult.Oct 30 14:21
schestowitzLarry Goldfarb: "Mr. Emerson and I discussed a variety of investment structures wherein Microsoft would 'backstop,' or guarantee in some way, BayStar's investment.... Microsoft assured me that it would in some way guarantee BayStar's investment in SCO."Oct 30 14:23
schestowitzLarry Goldfarb: "Microsoft wished to promote SCO and its pending lawsuit against IBM and the Linux operating system. But Microsoft did not want to be seen as attacking IBM or Linux."Oct 30 14:23
schestowitzMcirosoft <HEART> Linux now. It wants to be friends with you.Oct 30 14:23
schestowitzBut remember. It's /YOU/ who's a "Microsoft hater".  It's /YOU/ that's intolerant. Not a company that coordinates lawsuits by proxy using false allegation and claims that you stole 'innovations'...Oct 30 14:26
schestowitzhttp://radian.org/notebook/the-gr... "If you’re looking to figure out more of how the crisis came to be, skimming the transcript is a good place to start. And the Times’ Bits blog has a fascinating post putting Greenspan’s comments about risk management systems in context. In short, computers don’t help if you lie to them."Oct 30 14:29
schestowitzGreed!!!Oct 30 14:29
schestowitzHe's being funny.  http://radian.org/notebook/f...Oct 30 14:31
twitterBiggest profit in history.  http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/30/news/compani...Oct 30 14:38
twitterThanks Exxon.Oct 30 14:38
twitterLooks like they will have another "best year ever" no matter what happens.Oct 30 14:38
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trmancoschestowitz, how many patents does IBM have?Oct 30 14:53
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PetoKrausUBUNTU RELEASEEEED!!!! OMGOMGOMGOct 30 14:58
schestowitzSite doen yet?Oct 30 14:58
PetoKrausdunno, from phoronixOct 30 14:58
schestowitztrmanco: tens of thousands.Oct 30 14:58
PetoKrausnot reallyOct 30 14:58
PetoKrausit still responds quite wellOct 30 14:59
schestowitzhttp://torrentfreak.com/use-bittorrent-to...Oct 30 14:59
schestowitz"Ubuntu, the open source GNU/Linux based operating system, is about to release its next big update - Intrepid Ibex. In the past, the update servers would crash very quickly on a big release day, making it hard for people to get the latest update. With BitTorrent, however, this can be easily avoided."Oct 30 14:59
schestowitzThe MAFIAA is trying to daemonise torrent. it assume it owns all transmitted packets out there, which is vain.Oct 30 14:59
trmanco:|Oct 30 15:00
trmancomore than MicrosoftOct 30 15:00
trmancoWell, at least it is not as badOct 30 15:00
schestowitzThat's not the point.Oct 30 15:00
trmancothey support linux right?Oct 30 15:00
schestowitzThey use it.Oct 30 15:00
schestowitzThey throw in some cash too.Oct 30 15:01
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_DougVoluptua the goth vampire stripper ..Oct 30 16:03
_Doughttp://heresycorner.blogspot.com/...Oct 30 16:03
_Doug:]Oct 30 16:03
schestowitzI heard about it on the radio.Oct 30 16:04
schestowitzWere /you/ the gandfather?Oct 30 16:04
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_Douggand father ?Oct 30 16:13
_Doughttp://www.13shadesofblack.com...Oct 30 16:13
_Dougdon't put your daughter on the stage Mrs. Worthington .. :)Oct 30 16:14
_Dougquote: "never let them fuck you .. you can keep them hanging on for years"Oct 30 16:15
_DougI'm going back to 'the Sound of Music' ... :>Oct 30 16:16
schestowitzLive?Oct 30 16:17
_Doug?Oct 30 16:18
_DougVoluptia is sure different than ..Oct 30 16:22
_DougLiesl:Oct 30 16:23
_Doug"Fellows I meet may tell me I'm sweet .. And willingly I believe"Oct 30 16:23
_Doughttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GUFW7HW8_rQOct 30 16:23
schestowitzI found a Larry Goldfarb video this morning.Oct 30 16:24
schestowitzThere were two of them actually.Oct 30 16:24
schestowitzIn an older one that I mailed GL he talked about Microsoft.Oct 30 16:24
schestowitzIn this new one he says nothing about SCO or MS...Oct 30 16:24
schestowitzIt's time to get more proof before SCO goes poof!Oct 30 16:24
schestowitzMicrosoft won't go "poof!" as quickly as SCO, but whatever can be done to show the relation is needed.Oct 30 16:25
MinceRi wonder if MICROS~1 will go "poof!" before novell doesOct 30 16:28
_Doug"SCO submits the declaration of Darl McBride in which Mr. McBride says that Mr. Goldfarb told him IBM was, quote, on him, on him, on him, close quote"Oct 30 16:30
_Doughttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?stor...Oct 30 16:30
schestowitzYes, I have that one.Oct 30 16:31
schestowitzI put a quote here in fact: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/3... (see top)Oct 30 16:31
_DougYour honor, I put it to the court that: MS *did* talk to BAystar about 'investing' in SCO .. that is the substance of Mr. Schestowitzs' declarationOct 30 16:33
_Doug(reading four years of discovery has got me talking like a lawyer)Oct 30 16:34
_DougNiall: Was Microsoft ever directly involved with the SCO Group in their lawsuit against IBM, either through BayStar Capital or others?Oct 30 16:36
_DougBill: I don't know BayStar.Oct 30 16:36
_DougNiall: It's an investment company. One of their executives testified Microsoft invested $50 million to offset SCO's costs in the lawsuit.Oct 30 16:37
_DougBill: When?Oct 30 16:37
_Doughttp://www.niallkennedy.com/blog/2006/12...Oct 30 16:38
PetoKraushmm, gnewsense in virtualbox runs smoothOct 30 16:39
_Doug"Lawrence Goldfarb, managing partner of BayStar, says that seniorOct 30 16:40
_Dougexecutives at the software giant had telephoned him about two months beforeOct 30 16:40
_Dougthe investment. Would he be interested in investing in SCO"Oct 30 16:40
_Doughttp://www.businessweek.com/technology.../a>Oct 30 16:40
_Doug"A Microsoft spokesman says that the company has no "direct or indirect" financial relations with BayStar, but declined to comment when asked whether execs?called BayStar to suggest investing in SCO. "Oct 30 16:40
_DougWho asked about gnewsense ?Oct 30 16:41
PetoKrausno oneOct 30 16:41
PetoKrausi am just sayingOct 30 16:41
PetoKrausit has actually very nice themeOct 30 16:41
schestowitz_Doug: yeah, the gates/Niall thing was fishy.Oct 30 16:45
_Doughow can bill not know who SCO is and invest $50 million at the same time ??Oct 30 16:46
schestowitzI asked around at the time, but got no clear answer.Oct 30 16:46
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/...Oct 30 16:46
schestowitzPetoKraus: the wallpaper is simplistic.Oct 30 16:47
PetoKrausyes, but very niceOct 30 16:47
schestowitzPeople judge distros just based on theme and wallpaper.Oct 30 16:47
schestowitzIt's mostly the same underneath but integration counts.Oct 30 16:47
schestowitz"Why not Ubuntu?"Oct 30 16:48
PetoKrauswell, in case of gnewsense, it's not the same underneath ;)Oct 30 16:48
schestowitz"Cuz the theme is ugly."Oct 30 16:48
schestowitz"But... but.. you can change it"Oct 30 16:48
schestowitz"Yeah, but I don't like the name."Oct 30 16:48
PetoKrausoh god, it's NICEOct 30 16:48
schestowitzetc etc.Oct 30 16:48
_Dougbill buys a 'license' from SCO, gives the nod to Goldfarb to 'invest' in SCO, Sun also buys a license in SCO .. after making an out of court settlement with MS ..Oct 30 16:48
schestowitz_Doug: these are coincidences.Oct 30 16:49
schestowitzYou're feeling very drowsy.Oct 30 16:49
PetoKrausyou won't believe thisOct 30 16:49
PetoKrausthere's tomboy installedOct 30 16:50
PetoKrausFFSOct 30 16:51
_Doug'Hey, Steve, why don't we get together, play golf - pick and date and let's do it,'" McNealy said Friday.Oct 30 16:51
_Doughttp://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/5...Oct 30 16:51
_Doughow much did MS invest in SCO to drop the litigation ?Oct 30 16:51
schestowitzI don't know.Oct 30 16:52
schestowitzWhat's the $86 million about?Oct 30 16:52
_DougMS gives SUN $$$ who gives it to SCO ...Oct 30 16:53
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall... "e-mail from consultant Mike Anderer to SCO's Chris Sontag revealing Microsoft's channeling of US$ 86 million to SCO."Oct 30 16:53
_Doug"The email details how, surprise surprise, Microsoft has arranged virtually all of SCO's financing, hiding behind intermediaries like Baystar Capital"Oct 30 16:56
_Doughttp://www.linux.com/feature/34767Oct 30 16:56
PetoKraushttp://pk.gjhak.sk/.storage/gnewsense-mono.pngOct 30 16:56
PetoKrausDOHOct 30 16:56
_Dougis there cross-channel interference ?Oct 30 16:58
schestowitzNo, why?Oct 30 16:58
schestowitz""By Bruce PerensOct 30 16:58
schestowitz_Doug: get me more quotes like this one.Oct 30 17:01
schestowitzI use them on Halloween.Oct 30 17:01
_DougI'll try my best ..Oct 30 17:03
_Dougwhy is PatroKraus going on about gnewsense ???Oct 30 17:03
_Dougtwo bash screens does for me .. reallyOct 30 17:03
schestowitz:- ) Well, gNewSense will get quite good.Oct 30 17:04
schestowitzThe kernel developers get their hands on more free drivers and GPu makers surrender too.Oct 30 17:04
_Dougfor all but the simplese tasks, the GUI is a right pain to use .. regardless of how many shiny widgets are on screen ...Oct 30 17:04
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schestowitzYou still need a pointing device.Oct 30 17:05
_Douga Yahoo developer of my aquiantence uses eamcs on four bash screens .. really ..Oct 30 17:05
*PetoKraus (n=Peter@cpc4-broo2-0-0-cust1012.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined #boycottnovellOct 30 17:06
_Dougthe pointing device, also overrated .. have to keep taking your hands off the keyboard ..Oct 30 17:06
_Douggtg .. later ..Oct 30 17:07
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MinceRdepends on the pointing deviceOct 30 17:08
PetoKraus:)Oct 30 17:09
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*_Doug (n=_Doug) has joined #boycottnovellOct 30 17:50
trmancoUbuntu 8.10 installed flawlesslyOct 30 17:50
_Dougschest .. check you email :)Oct 30 17:55
schestowitzDone. Replied.Oct 30 18:01
schestowitzYou can say this in public.Oct 30 18:01
PetoKrausschestowitz: ?Oct 30 18:03
_Dougschest: leave it for a while ..Oct 30 18:04
_Douglets help out .. :)Oct 30 18:04
_Dougit would be an interesting project ..Oct 30 18:05
schestowitzYesOct 30 18:05
schestowitzI know it's old news, but I want it documented also in BN.Oct 30 18:05
schestowitzHey, PetoKraus. What's up?Oct 30 18:05
PetoKraus<schestowitz> You can say this in public.Oct 30 18:05
schestowitzWassup? < http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=... >Oct 30 18:06
_DougI always said I see nothing wrong in being hardball in promoting your business ..Oct 30 18:06
_Dougit's what everyone would do .. only ms does it better than everyoneelse .. very hardball !!!Oct 30 18:06
schestowitzCorrupt too.Oct 30 18:06
schestowitzThere are documented examples.Oct 30 18:07
schestowitzI don't like the phrase "play hardball" when used to describe even corruption.Oct 30 18:07
_DougFat Tony is just growing the business :)Oct 30 18:08
_Doug:)Oct 30 18:08


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