Bonum Certa Men Certa

The Trouble With Ubuntu Snaps, Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Derivatives



Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission from the original

I tried to use Snaps when I was experimenting with Ubuntu a few years ago. These are the major problems with it.



Server-side is proprietary and nobody else can run one.



snapd is a scandal. It’s extremely bloated and always running, even if the user never installs a snap.



When I tried to install some Snaps, including GZDoom (which is really a good program and available as a Flatpak, which actually runs), many of them failed to work at all on Kubuntu and I was told that this “universal” package was failing to load for some reason because I was using KDE as my desktop environment.



Ubuntu has let in cryptominer malware at least once. This is right after I argues with Alan Pope (popey) on Reddit that malware would happen eventually if they weren’t reviewing and were allowing proprietary and “developer-built” software in. He argued that they had control of the situation. Then after the incident, I asked what they were doing to remove the malicious snap, and he said they couldn’t remove it from the computers that had it installed, just remove it from the Snap store and if they could remove it, it would be a “backdoor”.



Debian packages get automatically removed all the time using dummy packages, and Ubuntu even replaced Chromium and Firefox by using dummy Debian packages that are empty, open snap, and tell it to install the snap.



That’s a backdoor. They didn’t transition it to another Debian package. They completely changed the package format and replaced the default Web browser with one compiled by Mozilla that has God knows what in it (it’s certainly not any sort of reproducible build) instead of a package compiled by the distribution that the user expects to be the “canonical” source of packages.



After Pope left Canonical, he wrote a program that can remove all Snaps from Ubuntu and then uninstall snapd. Eventually, this may break Ubuntu as they replace more packages with Snaps and just assume everyone has snapd on a system upgrade.



When I edited Wikipedia (which is its own mess) to discuss the problems with Snaps, Canonical purged all of my edits and reverted it back to the way it was before without even justifying why they did that.



snake-plissken-poster-escape-from-new-york-meme-generator-imgflip

Canonical sends nasty lawyers to distributions that are based on Ubuntu’s binaries, to argue that it has copyrights and “Ubuntu patents”, and to threaten to sue them if they don’t sign agreements that the users of those derivatives are not permitted to read.



They did this to Linux Mint.



If someone should like to use Linux Mint, they should be sure they are getting Linux Mint Debian Edition to avoid problems with the Ubuntu binaries and general nonsense that’s going on with Ubuntu’s package sabotage.



If you are checking out a distribution, you should make sure it’s not Ubuntu underneath. Many are.



Most of them have weird bugs.



When I was trying to use Kubuntu, especially during the years Canonical was patching everything to accommodate their Unity desktop shell they frequently broke Kubuntu horribly, necessitating some awful kludge in Kubuntu that broke the way KDE was intended to work.



Eventually, they drove out Jonathan Riddell out using their fake Community Council (which is entirely controlled by Canonical Ltd), when he complained about their “Intellectual Property” attacks against actual communities. They never stated this is why. In fact, the meeting that threw him out was done behind closed doors without much of an announcement. Despicable people do their dirty deeds in the dead of night.



For some odd reason, KDE NEON is still based on Ubuntu.



Roy Schestowitz of Techrights told me in IRC that he has systems running on it and they develop weird problems.



You’d think that KDE themselves would know better than to base their distribution on a funky pile of bugs with lots of mean lawyers, but who knows why people do anything? Right?



I save the best part for last. Of all of the folks who praised Snap, it was Microsoft. They think it has advantages over Debian packages. I’m not going to link to a Microsoft Web site, but they are very, very fond of Snap. Why wouldn’t they be? It lets them deploy their malicious software onto GNU/Linux, with little effort, and no oversight at all to find out what’s really in it and what really happens when you run it.



From the company that’s allegedly worth over a trillion dollars and can’t find anyone who knows how to package their version of R without destroying Debian.



Most disturbingly about Canonical/Ubuntu lately, is that Microsoft praises them, and Canonical praises Microsoft’s attacks on GNU/Linux, such as making big stinks about software that’s useless without Windows or Microsoft’s fake Linux subsystem (WSL) which offers to “extend” GNU/Linux programs so they don’t work on GNU/Linux anymore.



Every so often, Microsoft chooses a “favorite” GNU/Linux distribution. The distribution is always a corporate one obviously, and then several years later, instead of making lots of money from the Microsoft deal, they go bankrupt and nobody remembers them after a while.



openSUSE survives today and I’m told it works much better than it did under Novell, which went bankrupt. Of course, that’s not a major accomplishment. Virtually any way you configured openSUSE while Novell owned it, you risked breaking the whole system to a point where it was easier to just reformat the disk and start over than to try figuring out what went wrong.



Before that, they did deals with Xandros (gone) and Linspire (bankrupt), where former CEO Kevin Carmony accused Founder Michael Robertson of taking all of the company’s liquid assets….then they ended up suing each other, mainly because Robertson was furious that Carmony had paid out rather reasonable employee severance packages before he could run off with that money as well.



Why Canonical thinks it will be the exception is anyone’s guess. Maybe the bribes are good for now. Maybe they’re so very clearly incompetent that they think Microsoft is a good technical partner. Maybe both?



Almost nobody that I can think of has ever entered into a deal with Microsoft and come out on top.



Microsoft ends up sitting on top, of a pile of skulls. ⬆

Recent Techrights' Posts

Intercontinental Brigading - Part VI - Racism Against Blacks
Systems don't always work as intended
 
Slop is "just a hobby, won't be big and professional like GNU."
What Torvalds says about "hey hi" ("AI") does not prove he is in charge
Gemini Links 18/10/2026: Movies, Greenland, and Detectors of Slop Plagiarism
Links for the day
Links 18/10/2026: TikTok Censors Criticism of MElon, "Trump’s Latest Attempt to Be the King", and "Big Tech Oligarchs Have a Terrible Plan for Humanity"
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 17, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, October 17, 2026
Gemini Links 17/10/2026: Big Glowing Advertising Screens, Busy October, and Art
Links for the day
The First Casualty: The Reputation of Linux Developers (and of Linux)
The last thing you can take from a person is pride
Links 17/10/2026: Europe Divorcing US President Putin (Kompromat), MElon and Kapo-berg ("Meta") Buying US Elections Again
Links for the day
GAFAM LLMs Seem to be Causing Veteran, Experienced Linux Developers to Quit, Only to be Replaced With GAFAM Bots and Unaudited Slopfest 'Code'
Better than 'pulling a SCO'?
30 Years of KDE and "Project Banana"
KDE recently turned 30 (many blog posts about it this past week)
Inevitable Things
"Bitbucket was Inevitable"
Andy's Passing Thoughts on Media Dying, Not Reporting News (Even Critical News About Itself)
No more news
Stallman Was Right About Torvalds
The crowd/audience Linus Torvalds panders to is paid by GAFAM to go attend and dominate (speak at) LF events. They're people whose employer forces them to use slop, it's inorganic.
Links 17/10/2026: "Why Math Dumped OpenAI", US Third Circuit Has Confirmed LLMs and Other Slop Constitute Plagiarism or Copyright Infringement
Links for the day
GPL Was Right (About Hoarding, Now Automated With Plagiarism Blenders)
Some time next year the UK's High Court might listen to arguments related to this
Microsoft Allegedly Asks Many Workers to Leave at the End of This Year (or Get the Boot), It's Called Voluntary Exit Program a.k.a. Voluntary Early Retirement Program (or VEP) Even for People Far Too Young to Retire
"Everyone at Microsoft knows what those acronyms mean."
The Torvalds-led Slopfest as a Reminder to Pursue Software Freedom, Not Plagiarism Endorsed (for Money) by 'Linux' Foundation
What's happening this month moreover proves that he is not in control of important decisions in his project
Why We Never Got Back to IPFS
Practically speaking, we could get back to IPFS any time
Trillions of Dollars in Debt Are Not "Investment", More People Realise This Now
"Investors started offloading shares on Wednesday in response to an X post about the debt load of CoreWeave Inc..."
Red Hat Silent Layoffs: October 1 Bluewashing, Then Leaving IBM Altogether
It's said that weeks from now there will be another "round" (of "RAs")
Gemini Links 16/10/2026: Metrovision, Smartwatches, and Rekindled Love for Geminispace
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, October 16, 2026
IRC logs for Friday, October 16, 2026
Intercontinental Brigading - Part V - Keeping Linux Under Users' Control, Not Microsoft's (NSA) Control, Leads to Weaponisation of Cops (Killing the Messengers)
Transatlantic lawfare
TeamBlind Accused of Censorship, Maybe Surveillance in the Future
It's expensive to protect whistleblowers and to resist censorship of what whistleblowers try to expose
Another Friday 'Litter' of IBM Workers, Discarded and Sometimes Replaced to Cut Costs
The little that IBM earns is spent buying companies to pretend there's "growth" and headcount stability
Gemini Links 16/10/2026: Carrie, Games, and Slop
Links for the day
Links 16/10/2026: Election Interference by Slop; White House Backs Russia, Not Ukraine
Links for the day
The Register MS Has New 'Article' That Has "AI" 20 Times. "SPONSORED POST" As Usual.
At the end, both the media and the pyramid scheme will collapse
UK's Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) Says Microsoft is Still Abusive
Today, ahead of the latest fake 'results' [...] Microsoft cheats the system everywhere it can
Links 16/10/2026: "Data Centers Are Driving Conservative Rural Voters to The Democratic Party En Masse" and Slop Bros Bribe Candidates "for Congress"
Links for the day
Deplatforming People You Disagree With Is a Losing Strategy
Trying to deplatform people you don't agree with is oppressive and petty
Microsoft Cannot Pay Salaries
Microsoft is deep in debt
IBM "support that is USA based will migrate over 4 years to Indian based just because it lowers costs substantially."
IBM is not capable of growing, so it tries to find ways to shave off costs
Gemini Links 16/10/2026: Publishing and Licensing, Going to Movies, and Nature/Seasons Change
Links for the day
Microsoft's OSI Calling Slop "Open Source AI" (Microsoft Paid OSI to Do This) Has Helped Associate "Open Source" With Pedophilia
Microsoft deflecting?
Fridges Do Not Need an Internet Connection
Keep it simple, stupid (KISS)
Wikileaks Still Matters
The world needs more sites like these
'Cocaine King' Campinos Should 'Get the Message', Pack Up His Things and Go Already
His staff is constantly on strike and engaged in various industrial actions
We Don't Do Slop
People tend to appreciate genuine work, not fakes
On Lying With Confidence
LLMs are hype
Market Share of Windows in the United Kingdom is Shockingly Low
Microsoft's losses are very profound
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 15, 2026
IRC logs for Thursday, October 15, 2026
Microsoft Can Barely Afford to Colonise Africa Any Longer (Too Much Debt)
"Before the announcement, former Microsoft employees publicly described staff being placed on performance improvement plans or offered “voluntary” exits."
Intercontinental Brigading - Part IV - Harassment Registered With the Police Before Projection Attempts Made From America
The thing one gets subjected to for opposing back doors in Linux
Gemini Links 16/10/2026: Dogs, Slop, and Blogging
Links for the day