EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

05.24.07

Novell Sells Community’s Blood, Boasts Earnings

Posted in Free/Libre Software, GNU/Linux, Interoperability, Microsoft, Novell at 10:44 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

The headline is inspired by a nice analogy from Pamela Jones. We have identified some very interesting information in the latest discussion at Groklaw. Let us start with this:

Meanwhile, Antone Gonsalves at EETimes reports that Microsoft says it isn’t attacking Open Source. It is just responding to customer demand. Shades of SCO. Must be the same customers SCO told us were begging them to set up SCOsource licensing. Here’s what Microsoft’s Bob Muglia said:

Muglia said Microsoft was focused on interoperability with open source software, not on challenging the use of its intellectual property in court. “Our approach is a licensing based one,” Muglia said. “It’s a real issue for customers, and one that Microsoft is addressing proactively.”

I just can’t turn off my paralegal brain, which translates that to say: We won’t sue you as long as you pay us. I believe I can get similar terms from the Mafia.

We’ll shortly publish an item dedicated solely to the issue of interoperability and the “interop tax” which Microsoft and Novell so stubbornly insist on introducing. But here’s another slip of the mouth (what at least appears to be the case) from Steinman:

Update: Another part of Shankland’s report has this offensive bit, from Justin Steinman. Who else?

Microsoft’s patent tally news both pleased and displeased Novell, said Justin Steinman, the company’s marketing director for Linux.

On the displeased side, Novell saw the news as “another round of, ’0h no, here we go again.’ We generally think comments like that aren’t productive,” Steinman said.

On the pleased side, Novell potentially can profit from the saber-rattling. “If Microsoft is going to go out and raise concerns, we are comfortable we can offer (customers) coverage,” Steinman said. Overall, though, Novell wasn’t pleased. “Do we wish the tone of the article had been different? I think so.”

I could probably make some money selling my mother’s blood, if I had no conscience. Or I could rob a liquor store. There’s money in that, I hear. Profit isn’t the only indicator of whether a deal is a good idea or not.

Right on point. In part, Novell continues to thrive in the community’s pain. That’s the very same community from which its product came. Novell still bites the hand that feeds it. In case you remain unconvinced, here is another statement which supports this assertion.

When Microsoft suggests that Linux developers have stolen its IP, “I feel that I’ve been called a thief,” he said. As a result, he concluded, the Microsoft/Novell deal might be good for Novell “but it’s not good for the community” of open-source developers and users.

Here is the perspective of Tom Adelstein, which indirectly addresses the exclusionary deal and its impact.

I seem to recall something about unfair trade practices. Can a monopoly favor one organization with the same product offering over another? Hmmm, I’m not a lawyer and I don’t practice law. But, as a private citizen, I can recall some interesting legal battles here and there. Something about Linspire comes to mind. And something about announcements that stop people from buying products because of threatening announcements also comes to mind.

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

4 Comments

  1. Stephen Holmes said,

    May 25, 2007 at 5:36 am

    Gravatar

    You’ll find that all companies (and particularly publicly traded companies) are in the business of making profit and not in the business of altruism. This is the point of them being in business. Innovation, R&D, expansion are functions of a growth pattern designed only to increase profits and not better human-kind.

    You’ll also find that the greatest percentage of open source developers are paid by such companies in the first place. The F/OSS market is changed forever, one could argue since IBM put on its own F/OSS attire. It’s a business now, with real and well paid employees.

    My point is, why would you expect any company to behave differently? Turn the rock over on any of the so-called pure F/OSS companies and you’ll find something that will make your stomach churn.

  2. Roy Schestowitz said,

    May 25, 2007 at 6:31 am

    Gravatar

    You could add Google to the list of examples (amid Moglen’s criticisms), but there’s a difference between not giving back (or giving too little) and actually harming that hand that feeds you. Novell is knowingly doing damage. Apparently it thought that damage to its image would be outweighed by this deal with Microsoft.

  3. Ian said,

    May 25, 2007 at 8:30 am

    Gravatar

    But what is the damage that has been done? Despite Microsoft’s positioning and comments, nobody has really taken it seriously. Beyond the hurt feelings department, I’m still left wondering where if any damage has been done up to this point.

  4. Robert Millan said,

    April 1, 2008 at 6:09 am

    Gravatar

    Stephen, I think you’re making the following assumptions:
    – Innovation cannot possibly happen in a free market, and therefore requires protectionist measures (counterexample: everything that was invented in computer software before software patents were allowed).
    – Such protectionist measures aren’t really detrimental for innovation, even if they impose a 20-year delay before newly-invented technology can be used without fear of lawsuits (example: Nokia and Apple think it is dangerous to use OGG).
    – Altruism and ethics are the same thing. Since there are no altruist companies, there are no ethical companies either (counterexample: I leave that up to you; hint: Microsoft ain’t a good one).

What Else is New


  1. Links - Anti-Trust Roundups - Yahoo, Nokia, Barns and Nobel





  2. Links - MSNokia Passes Blame, Bill Gates pushes GMOs, Open Access news





  3. Links 7/2/2012: Firefox 11 Enters Beta, Canonical Disappoints KDE

    Links for the day



  4. IRC Proceedings: February 6th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 6th, 2012



  5. IRC Proceedings: February 5th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 5th, 2012



  6. Links 6/2/2012: PCLinuxOS 2012.02 and Mint KDE Reviews

    Links for the day



  7. Bill Gates Indoctrinates Youth in the United States and India, Critics Speak Out

    Backlash against the Gates Crusade to brainwash the young minds all around the world



  8. Bill Gates Uses Symbolic 'Donation' to Force Taxpayers to Pay Microsoft (of Which He Holds Shares)

    The Gates Foundation goes lobbying for Microsoft again, this time in Vietnam



  9. Monopoly as Innovation?

    Challenging the old misconception that patents are beneficial to anything but few multinationals and their patent lawyers



  10. Links 5/2/2012: Lenovo in India, Netrunner 4.1 is Out

    Links for the day



  11. IRC Proceedings: February 4th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 4th, 2012



  12. OpenStack, Microsoft, Junk Patents, Microsoft Copyrights, and Oracle Copyrights

    Another look at the OpenStack situation, why Microsoft should not be allowed to enter, and more about patent and copyright complications



  13. Apple, Which Started Patent Wars, Gets What It Deserves

    Apple products get banned (for the time being) after Apple decided to attack Linux-supporting competitors and then received some blowback



  14. Unitary Patent and the Emergence of More Junk Patents

    The rise of the junk patents and what we are taught about them by the news, including some news about the unitary patent in Europe



  15. Backlash Against Bill Gates' Lobbying for Patented Life

    GMO, a robbery of the right of reproduction (and a potential health hazard), is promoted by Bill Gates for profit, whereupon critics strike back



  16. IRC Proceedings: February 3rd, 2012

    IRC logs for February 3rd, 2012



  17. Links 4/2/2012: Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2 Preview, ACTA Backlash in Europe

    Links for the day



  18. A Glimpse at Executives Who Left the Sinking Novell Ship

    A roundup of news about former Novell staff and where that staff is moving these days



  19. Novell Makes New Software for Microsoft Windows and Office

    PR spin from Novell and money-grabbing moves that promote proprietary software rather than Free/Open Source software



  20. Links 3/2/2012: BT Vision Goes for Linux, Linux 3.3 With Android

    Links for the day



  21. Debt in Attachmate

    The company that bought Novell has a poor outlook, financial issues, and little signs of expansion/renaissance



  22. Longtime SUSE Executive Holger Dyroff Moves on, SUSE in a Bad State

    Key people continue to leave SUSE and the distribution is left without a compelling sales pitch



  23. Groklaw Update on Android Patent Cases and Response to FUD From Microsoft Lobbyists

    A few updates of greater importance where the Linux situation is discussed in the context of Android and Novell



  24. IRC Proceedings: February 2nd, 2012

    IRC logs for February 2nd, 2012



  25. Links 2/2/2012: DEFT Linux 7, Mozilla Firefox 10

    Links for the day



  26. IRC Proceedings: February 1st, 2012

    IRC logs for February 1st, 2012



  27. IRC Proceedings: January 31st, 2012

    IRC logs for January 31st, 2012



  28. IRC Proceedings: January 30th, 2012

    IRC logs for January 30th, 2012



  29. Bill Gates is Hijacking Open Source While Attacking It Using Lobbyists, Patents, and Patent Trolls

    Response to reputation laundering from Wired Magazine, the latest nonsense from Microsoft's lobbyist Florian Müller, an update on Microsoft's trolling against Android, and a little more of Apple's



  30. The Gates Foundation is Still Hijacking the Voice of the Poor and Effectively Runs Paid Advertisements Inside 'News'

    Money still the vehicle by which opinions get heard, so Bill Gates exploits this for fame, power, and profit


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts