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02.26.09

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 25th, 2009

Posted in IRC Logs at 5:30 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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schestowitz nn Feb 25 00:03
schestowitz “A four-year study of more than 1,200 youngsters performed by the University of Massachusetts Medical School found that children whose parents let them watch R-rated movies are more likely to smoke.” Kids Who Watch R-Rated Movies More Likely to Smoke < http://www.prwatch.org/node/8233 > Feb 25 00:05
schestowitz BakBone ourra ops: “BakBone Software® (Pink Sheets:BKBO)” http://www.businesswire.com/portal… Feb 25 00:07
Balrog_ not surprising Feb 25 00:17
schestowitz Britain faces summer of rage – police < http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/23/pol… > Feb 25 00:18
schestowitz It’s like Great Depression all over again Feb 25 00:19
schestowitz People who are not broke totally misunderstand why this is serious. If someone loses his/her houses it’s a serious problem for everyone because crime soars and unrest rises. Feb 25 00:19
schestowitz http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-no… ” UK police warn that lots of people unemployed might join in protests against the privileged few who are not sharing their hardship, or trashing the envrionment. The report takes for granted that the state should try to suppress these grievances rather than act on them. “ Feb 25 00:20
schestowitz US soldier guilty of Iraq murder < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/… >. Finally they apply the same standards in the other way. Feb 25 00:21
schestowitz balzac: http://consortiumnews.com/2009/021909.html “For those of us who have criticized the U.S. mainstream media for failing to resist right-wing pressure over the past three decades, there is a sad sense of vindication watching the downward spiral of so many once-venerable newspapers. But this trend carries with it a new threat to American democracy.” Feb 25 00:22
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schestowitz Ballmer is afraid of Google’s Linux: Ballmer: Android makes Google a bigger rival to Windows on PCs < http://www.techflash.com/Ballmer_Android… > Feb 25 00:39
*schestowitz will post more details in today’s links Feb 25 00:39
Balrog schestowitz: I missed you at 18:35 Feb 25 00:43
Balrog who’s dailykossers anyways? Feb 25 00:44
schestowitz Balrog: I was at the gym Feb 25 00:44
schestowitz Daily Koss is a politcial site Feb 25 00:44
Balrog_ you said “Balrog: what do dailykossers say about this? Do they want justice and accomplices?” Feb 25 00:44
schestowitz *Kos Feb 25 00:44
schestowitz Oh, I meant to address this @ balzac Feb 25 00:45
Balrog_ ah … that explains it Feb 25 00:45
schestowitz He left like 10k comments in there Feb 25 00:45
Balrog_ I see what happens when 2 people have similar nicks :P Feb 25 00:45
schestowitz Nice banner: http://themysticbird.com/2009/02/20… Feb 25 00:47
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schestowitz Blakenhorn with another trollish hypothesis *sigh!* Could the Linux Foundation get too big? < http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3551 > Feb 25 01:02
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schestowitz I broke one of the machines at the gym today :-| The squat machine that I maxed… second time I break it in 2 years  :-S Feb 25 01:09
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Balrog_ heh Feb 25 01:16
Balrog_ need to pay for it? Feb 25 01:17
schestowitz No, of course not. Feb 25 01:17
Balrog_ ok. Feb 25 01:17
schestowitz I’ve been going there for 7 years Feb 25 01:17
Balrog_ I see Feb 25 01:17
schestowitz It’s not my fault either because the sable snapped Feb 25 01:18
Balrog_ ah. Feb 25 01:18
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schestowitz LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiP… Feb 25 03:05
zer0c00l time for classes Feb 25 03:07
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schestowitz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_w… Feb 25 03:48
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MinceR r4wr Feb 25 09:07
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mib_9az8ei where is there a warning list of distros that have sold out to MS? Feb 25 09:57
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MinceR such a list would be nice Feb 25 10:05
MinceR the distros i know of are suse, xandros, turbolinux and linspire Feb 25 10:05
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mib_ka8p78 ummm… Eshays? Feb 25 10:38
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MinceR gesundheit. Feb 25 10:48
schestowitz Morning.. Feb 25 10:49
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mib_9az8ei redhat told MS to piss off Feb 25 10:54
schestowitz Where? Feb 25 11:02
schestowitz When..? Feb 25 11:02
schestowitz Banking app vuln surfaces 18 months after discovery < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009… > Feb 25 11:09
schestowitz balzac: we’re having the same problem here as you do in the US. From the news: Straw vetoes publication of cabinet Iraq war minutes < http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2… > Feb 25 11:26
schestowitz Google Backs Europe Case Against Microsoft Browser  < http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/02/24… > Feb 25 11:26
schestowitz Home Office plans to force CCTV on shops and pubs < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/0… > Feb 25 11:28
schestowitz Straw slaps ban on Iraq debate docs http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/0… Feb 25 11:47
schestowitz “Mobile phone chip maker Qualcomm is considering laying off up to 40 engineers at its Cambridge labs, an insider has revealed.” http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/0… Feb 25 11:48
schestowitz “Straw hit by internet fraudsters .. UK Justice Secretary Jack Straw has been the victim of Nigerian fraudsters who sent out hundreds of e-mails in his name asking for money.” http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_… Feb 25 11:53
schestowitz SNP accuse PM of airbrushing site http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_poli… Feb 25 11:54
oiaohm Nigerian fraudsters starting to expand reach. Nice Feb 25 12:05
MinceR note how this supposed “linux” site mentions only Active Directory as possible directory services >> http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory… Feb 25 12:12
MinceR then again, the article was written by a microsoft slave Feb 25 12:13
schestowitz ECT.. Feb 25 12:13
schestowitz It used to be a decent site Feb 25 12:13
schestowitz Then taken over by Enderle and chums when it was old.. Feb 25 12:14
schestowitz *sold Feb 25 12:14
mib_9az8ei LinuxInsider went over to MS a few years ago… Feb 25 12:21
mib_9az8ei before that it was good. Feb 25 12:21
schestowitz 2004 Feb 25 12:22
schestowitz IIRC Feb 25 12:22
oiaohm Some samba people believe that active directory is the solution. Feb 25 12:22
schestowitz I wrote about it in BN a few times.. Feb 25 12:22
oiaohm Ok samba version of it of course. Feb 25 12:22
MinceR so do they think AD is the solution or not? :> Feb 25 12:22
MinceR evidently, they don’t, seeing how they’re developing a replacement. Feb 25 12:23
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oiaohm Samba AD is a drop in clone in development of the MS ADS over the wire. Feb 25 12:24
oiaohm It looks like its going to do its first major appearance after a project called franky completes. Feb 25 12:24
oiaohm Yes franky after frankinstin.  Samba 3 and Samba 4 merged. Feb 25 12:25
oiaohm Yes ew Feb 25 12:25
oiaohm I hope freeipa or something else gets there first. Feb 25 12:25
MinceR which makes it a good first step for getting out of microsoft hell. Feb 25 12:32
oiaohm Also means if you use ADS to manage your linux machines they still stay in ADS hell. Feb 25 12:33
oiaohm ADS was not designed with Linux’s features in mind. Feb 25 12:33
oiaohm Freeipa and pulse2 (from mandariva nothing to do with pulseaudio) are both design for the way Linux works. Feb 25 12:40
MinceR a smoother transition becomes possible :> Feb 25 12:45
MinceR what are freeipa and pulse2? directory services? Feb 25 12:46
oiaohm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeIPA  Major expand on directory services Feb 25 12:54
oiaohm Mangement frameworks. Feb 25 12:54
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schestowitz Juniper poisoned by Microsoft vs. Cisco: “(New CEO Kevin Johnson shared a grim IT spending outlook at the event.) ” http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/0… Feb 25 13:08
amarsh04 schestowitz… do you remember any official links for Mark Hurd’s bonus package? Feb 25 13:20
amarsh04 my co-workers were stunned when they heard of his bonuses Feb 25 13:21
schestowitz I could search for information, but I never watched it closely, so I don’t know. Some executives like to receive 1$ wages to deceive their employees (hiding their personal gains in bonuses and stocks). Feb 25 13:24
MinceR $1 is a bad choice for deception :> Feb 25 13:25
oiaohm Yahoo? Feb 25 13:26
oiaohm There was funny. 1$ wage because you could not be a board member without a wage.  When you own large sections of the company why do you need a wage as well. Feb 25 13:27
oiaohm Lot of the payments of company boards and the laws around it need to be investaged. Feb 25 13:27
amarsh04 I seem to remember USD$24 million… will google it Feb 25 13:28
amarsh04 I was wrong… the first hits are getting US$42.8 million Feb 25 13:30
schestowitz Just in: Rivals Sun and H-P Hope to Make News Together < http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/02/24/riva… > Feb 25 13:33
MinceR a little more than your best-paid employee would probably be a better choice of a wage if your aim was deception Feb 25 13:34
schestowitz amarsh04: he cashes in for his ‘overachievements’ Feb 25 13:34
schestowitz MinceR: maybe there is also an element of humour in it. it’s also how they can show off their ‘humbleness’ in the press (headlines of paras about ‘funny’ wages). Feb 25 13:35
amarsh04 found the edgar posting of HP executive remuneration Mark V Hurd USD$42,514,524; Ann M. Livermore USD$20,551,493 Feb 25 13:35
MinceR ic Feb 25 13:35
MinceR and who believes them? Feb 25 13:35
schestowitz “Ellison makes 100k/year” doesn’t make interesting news Feb 25 13:36
schestowitz Oracle shareholders choke on Ellison’s package < http://www.theregister.co.uk/200… > Feb 25 13:36
schestowitz “His 2008 cash and stock package weighed in at $83m last year, 372 per cent above what Ellison’s peers in other chief executive positions receive. Successive stock allocations, meanwhile, have transformed Ellison into possibly Oracle’s single biggest individual stockholder – he holds 22.6 per cent of common Oracle stock.” Feb 25 13:37
oiaohm Yahoo needed advertisement when they first did it. Feb 25 13:45
oiaohm So yes 1 dollar wages if you can afford to do it is good marketing tool. Feb 25 13:45
schestowitz Google too Feb 25 13:51
schestowitz Apple I think also…. Feb 25 13:51
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twitter bwa, ha ha.  M$FT hit a new 52 week low yesterday. Feb 25 14:28
twitter $16.36, now trading at 16.91 Feb 25 14:29
twitter I got to play with an iTouch yesterday. Feb 25 14:32
twitter It looks like a nice PDA and needs to be liberated with free software. Feb 25 14:32
schestowitz ‘Liberated’ with DRM….. Feb 25 14:33
twitter eliminating DRM would be the best thing about putting free software on the device. Feb 25 14:34
twitter how difficult has Apple made liberation? Feb 25 14:35
twitter gotta go, will be back soon. Feb 25 14:36
schestowitz They are in for profit only. “Screw everything else” Feb 25 14:37
oiaohm Funny thing is DRM is not the most effective deterent. Feb 25 14:37
oiaohm Watermarking with personal information is. Feb 25 14:37
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oiaohm Ie the person who aquired it personal information. Feb 25 14:38
schestowitz This does not expire content Feb 25 14:39
schestowitz Several years back there was an admission that content expiry is a revenue boosting tool. Feb 25 14:40
schestowitz E.g. user buys a new music player or PVR and then needs to repurchase content or buy more Feb 25 14:40
schestowitz This notion that one European psychologist (IIRC) named “planned obsolescence is at the heart of this endless ‘consumption’ (as in “consumer”) cycle Feb 25 14:41
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mib_a1xa87 hi. fellas. i wonder if someone has been able to get express gate into a mobo/system without windows Feb 25 15:06
schestowitz It’s hard Feb 25 15:08
schestowitz If not impossible Feb 25 15:08
schestowitz Did you see the post about it? Feb 25 15:08
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Omar87 Hi all Feb 25 15:16
Omar87 So, what do ya’ll think of the agreement Red Hat signed with MS a couple of days ago? Feb 25 15:16
schestowitz It’s not yet known what it involves Feb 25 15:18
MinceR i think it’s a mistake, but it isn’t an overly big one Feb 25 15:22
Omar87 Let ua Feb 25 15:35
Omar87 I meant: Let us all hope so.. Feb 25 15:36
Omar87 It’s funny how sometimes when I talk to people about Linux, that they start calling me a fan boy. :) Feb 25 15:37
schestowitz If you talked about Windows, then..? Feb 25 15:42
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schestowitz Heh. “Freedom fanboys”. I thought people can only be fans of celerities or brands (corporations). “Hey, YOU! You vegetables fanboy (vegetarian) [...] and YOU, you females fangirls (women rights activists) ..” Feb 25 15:44
schestowitz Canadian prof: Green IT is a waste of time < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02… > Feb 25 15:47
MinceR you damn life fanboys Feb 25 15:50
MinceR and oxygen fanboys Feb 25 15:51
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schestowitz Giorgio Armani Realizes That Fashion Copying Isn’t A Bad Thing < http://techdirt.com/articles/2009021… > Feb 25 16:01
schestowitz There is one OS brand people are /expected/ to cherish (i.e. be a fan of). So keeping out of it is now “fanboyism”? GNU/Linux is commodity,not a company. It’s like air.. it’s shared. Feb 25 16:02
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MinceR some people don’t want to share. Feb 25 16:06
MinceR they call sharing “communism”. Feb 25 16:07
Goblin Roy just a quick one….Ive got to go off soon….youve had a mention on another site: Feb 25 16:07
Goblin http://www.infoworld.com/article/09… Feb 25 16:07
Goblin seems like youre the word on Linux!! Welldone! Feb 25 16:07
Goblin cya later. Feb 25 16:08
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schestowitz MinceR: you don’t know? “Communists” are people who envy Americans (because they have McDonalds) and “Communists” have 40,000 nuclear weapons. They are the “bewildered herd”. Feb 25 16:11
MinceR :) Feb 25 16:12
schestowitz http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/19900907.htm “Remember, after all, that this is basic liberal democratic theory — I’m not making it up. If you read, say, Walter Lippmann, the dean of American journalism, who is also considered a leading progressive, democratic theorist, his argument is that, for a democracy to function properly, there are two different roles that have to be played: one is the role of what he called the speciali Feb 25 16:13
schestowitz zed class — the responsible men, a small minority — and the other is the role of the public, who he described as a “bewildered herd.”” Feb 25 16:13
schestowitz “The role of the public, then, is to be spectators, not participants; their role is just to watch and occasionally to ratify. The decision making has to be in the hands of the elite. That’s democracy. “ Feb 25 16:13
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dongking lol novell Feb 25 16:16
dongking who the fuck use that shit anyway ? Feb 25 16:16
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schestowitz Yahoo To Lose Top Exec < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews… > Feb 25 16:30
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schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/… Feb 25 17:11
schestowitz Head of OSI just mailed me :-) Feb 25 17:20
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Balrog what did he say? Feb 25 18:05
Balrog (head of OSI) Feb 25 18:05
schestowitz probably private. Feb 25 18:20
Balrog OK then Feb 25 18:20
schestowitz Novell’s Microsoft components are seemingly being elevated at the expense of others: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/2… Feb 25 18:20
schestowitz I’m doing a post about OOXML FAIL. Feb 25 18:20
Balrog heh Feb 25 18:20
Balrog OOSXML is working (in Microsoft’s favor) because people who use office don’t care how they save files Feb 25 18:21
Balrog unfortunately, that’s not good for us (the end users) Feb 25 18:22
schestowitz It’s never about the users Feb 25 18:24
schestowitz Remember what Microsoft says about developers: “they are pawns in the battle” Feb 25 18:24
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Balrog yeah :/ Feb 25 18:25
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MinceR http://abstrusegoose.com/122 Feb 25 18:39
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schestowitz One of our regular readers appears to have set up a blog: http://myfraudsoft.wordpress… Feb 25 18:56
schestowitz http://www.itwire.com/content/view/23460/1231/ Feb 25 19:01
schestowitz India places billions of rupees for first manned space mission  < http://www.itwire.com/content/… > Feb 25 19:04
trmanco Ballmer: Linux Bigger Competitor than Apple: http://osnews.com/story/21035/Ballmer_… Feb 25 19:10
schestowitz Shuttleowrth obviously didn’t get Stallman’s memo about “cloud” nonsense. “Ubuntu aims to keep free software at the forefront of cloud computing by embracing the API’s of Amazon EC2, and making it easy for anybody to setup their own cloud using entirely open tools. ” https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/u… Feb 25 19:11
schestowitz trmanco: yes, seen it and posted to COLA Feb 25 19:11
schestowitz This is not new by the way Feb 25 19:11
trmanco I missed it Feb 25 19:11
schestowitz He has been implying and saying this for eyars Feb 25 19:11
trmanco brb Feb 25 19:12
schestowitz Linux enables many rivals like Oracle, IBM, Red Hat, Google.. Feb 25 19:12
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balzac Why does Mark Shuttleworth feel the need to say “cloud” when he could say “cluster” instead? Feb 25 19:29
balzac could sounds like a buzz-word, cluster is old terminology that everyone is comfortable with Feb 25 19:29
balzac cloud, not could Feb 25 19:29
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balzac Stallman’s rant was definitely against SaaS, commonly presented as ‘cloud’-based services. He’s obviously not against clustering, but he’s against giving your data and control to someone else. Feb 25 19:31
balzac Sounds like good features to add into Ubuntu, as long as the distro doesn’t become beholden to Amazon, following their technological leadership into the weeds. Feb 25 19:32
schestowitz http://www.prdomain.com/companies/A… “He holds 10 United States patents and is a regular contributor to prestigious academic journals and conferences.” :-( Feb 25 19:33
schestowitz balzac: did you see the headlines? Feb 25 19:34
schestowitz Ubuntu cloud this and that. It’s just buzz BS… marketing and all. Feb 25 19:34
balzac yeah Feb 25 19:35
avuton fad was more what I was thinking. It’s one of those things that looks really cool to some people until they sit down and view the disadvantages. Feb 25 19:36
balzac Maybe Mark Shuttleworth should get together with Tim O’Reilly and the could ride pagasus/unicorns across a web 2.0 rainbow-bridge into cloud-computing heaven. Feb 25 19:36
schestowitz The major news today is the UK moving to open source, sorta Feb 25 19:37
balzac RMS is always critical of people giving away their control and rights. SaaS is not optimal for maintaining autonomy and privacy. Feb 25 19:38
schestowitz avuton: yes, but it also sounds good because of association with heaven. Feb 25 19:38
schestowitz I want HELL computing. Bring the pain, you fool !! Feb 25 19:39
schestowitz BTW, ORLY and Shuttleowrth are quite close. The former organised the latter’s conference (Ubuntu Live).. Feb 25 19:40
schestowitz Just in: Desktops Will Move to the Cloud, VMware Exec Says < http://www.pcworld.com/article/160184/desk… > Feb 25 19:41
schestowitz Is this physically possible? Until they pry people’s _desk_top to be put in server rooms, this is just willy-nilly stuff. Feb 25 19:42
balzac fluff-head marketing drivel Feb 25 19:42
balzac nobody is doing to take away my work station and “put it into their cloud”. Feb 25 19:43
balzac any company which aspires to consolidate control over its IT staff in that manner would not work for me. Feb 25 19:43
balzac I will accept no administrator. Feb 25 19:44
balzac for my personal machine. Feb 25 19:44
schestowitz http://ninelivesmediainc.wordpress.com/about/ “The seeds for this business were planted a decade ago, when Amy (sales) and Joe (editorial) rapidly climbed the ranks at Ziff Davis.” Feb 25 19:45
schestowitz CMP as well… it’s interesting to see where those writers (Joe Panettieri in this case) come from. Feb 25 19:46
schestowitz balzac: they probably intend to pull people’s data onto some datacentres so that it doesn’t reside on people’s HDD. The MI5 would /luv/ it. Feb 25 19:46
schestowitz Imagine a state where people just tap the ‘masterputer’ which is accessible to those who watch from above. This was essentially done when companies closed their code and become a de facto standard (e.g. Skype, Windows) Feb 25 19:48
schestowitz EXTRA EXTRA… more signs that the news is running out of news: Steve Jobs Turns 54 < http://www.pcworld.com/article/16019… > Feb 25 19:49
schestowitz http://www.nndb.com/lists/573/000106255/ Feb 25 19:49
balzac when people without an IT background attempt to be pundits in the IT industry, they write stories from a “human-interest” angle. The debate about proprietary vs free software has no meaning to them, but they know who pays their salaries. Feb 25 19:50
schestowitz Nancy Gohring is again doing one of those MS-cuddling ‘articles’: Microsoft Demos INNOVA~1 at Annual TechFest < http://www.pcworld.com/article/160197/m… >. DEVELO~1 DEVELO~1 DEVELO~1 DEVELO~1. Feb 25 19:52
balzac I guess that’s a bit of a generalization. Some people, not all. Feb 25 19:52
schestowitz You have to ask what makes news Feb 25 19:52
schestowitz Is it business? Feb 25 19:52
schestowitz Entertainment? Feb 25 19:52
schestowitz PR[opaganda]? Feb 25 19:52
schestowitz Microsoft roots the Mac: “According to Microsoft, once successfully executed the attacker could gain the same user permissions as the local user.” < http://www.pcworld.com/article/160205/mi… > Feb 25 19:53
balzac Micro-seef Feb 25 19:56
balzac seefing off of everyone else’s innovations Feb 25 19:56
balzac http://www.urbandictionary.com/def… Feb 25 19:57
balzac I guess my use of that word is not with the meaning in the urban dictionary Feb 25 19:58
balzac http://www.urbandictionary.co… Feb 25 19:58
balzac microsarf Feb 25 19:58
balzac A freeloader, someone that mooches your stuff. Feb 25 19:59
schestowitz No way. Feb 25 20:05
schestowitz They stole the idea of dumpster diving from someone else? Feb 25 20:05
schestowitz Or… was it the dumpster diving that /was/ the mooching of someone else’s personal code? Feb 25 20:06
schestowitz BillG’s first patent: “A novel method of diving into disposal apparatus in order to obtain novel methods from other persons” Feb 25 20:07
schestowitz Cool! : http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/stupid-gee… Feb 25 20:08
schestowitz Update on today’s Gmail outage < http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/updat… > Feb 25 20:13
schestowitz “Microsoft is in deep trouble. With browser-based delivery of applications, their entire cost model is gutted. With costs of distribution, sales, inventory, etc gone or sharply reduced, prices can drop to grab market share, but top-line revenues will also drop.” http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_… Feb 25 20:19
schestowitz Dana Micronhorn is once again feeling the urge to slam a migration to open source, dismissing it as a stunt.. at least his readers knock him down aggressively. http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3586 Feb 25 20:22
balzac Roy, I like that video-to-ascii technology for its efficiency. There’s software to use it for video-conferencing. Feb 25 20:29
balzac Matrix-style, and it has a purpose for low-bandwidth video. Feb 25 20:30
balzac I need to figure it out so I can blow people’s minds. Feb 25 20:30
balzac everyone will be jealous when they see it. Especially Windows and Apple users. Feb 25 20:31
schestowitz Dana Micronhorn has become an uber-troll Feb 25 20:31
balzac the video-conferencing application Feb 25 20:31
schestowitz Post by post he’s attacking good news, spinning them as something negative. Shane on him. ZDNet is FUD Factory Feb 25 20:31
schestowitz Yesterday:” Will telcos ever embrace open source?”  “Could the Linux Foundation get too big? “ Feb 25 20:32
schestowitz Better headlines: “Telcos ALREADY use open source massively” Linun Foundation is growing big (which is good)” Feb 25 20:32
schestowitz That’s what you get from a supposedly “open source” blog Feb 25 20:32
schestowitz I think he’s  trying to provoke, but people should just not respond to him. This way, as he warned before, he might need to find another job where he does less harm to something that he does not even use (open source) Feb 25 20:33
schestowitz I notice that CNET mentions Shane O’Neill (rants vs Apple). People ought to be aware that all he ever writes is pro-Microsoft pieces and he recently met Ballmer face to face. He seems to have been picked by IDG (‘CIO’) more recently for some kind of MS ‘roadshow’. Feb 25 20:36
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Balrog schestowitz: moonlight is in the gentoo port tree. I’m not surprised because there is a lot of proprietary stuff there too Feb 25 20:40
Balrog only it’s not forced on us Feb 25 20:40
schestowitz I think I heard about it Feb 25 20:43
schestowitz It didn’t work well. Feb 25 20:43
schestowitz Missing stuff and maybe not just codecs Feb 25 20:43
*schestowitz really ought to do a quick post about the splendid news about UK +FOSS+ODF Feb 25 20:47
Balrog heh Feb 25 21:03
Balrog it does make you use ffmpeg Feb 25 21:03
Balrog (there’s no option for those proprietary codecs) Feb 25 21:03
schestowitz Let’s hope. Feb 25 21:06
schestowitz Shane O’Neil is like Microsoft PR in IDG (CIO)… worse than Ina Fried even. Feb 25 21:09
schestowitz By the way, Schiendler and others were laid off from IDG… it’s all happening quietly. Some of the CNET writers landed there too. The media goes bonkers. Feb 25 21:10
schestowitz On Catalunya MS-EDGI scam:  http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3… Feb 25 21:15
schestowitz WTF is this? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10… Feb 25 21:17
trmanco why do people like Ruby so much? Feb 25 21:19
trmanco http://github.com/languages Feb 25 21:19
MinceR because they don’t know python Feb 25 21:23
schestowitz I’ve received mail from Major Microsoft Shill. Feb 25 21:25
trmanco MinceR, do you know Python Feb 25 21:25
MinceR i do Feb 25 21:25
schestowitz He writes.. Feb 25 21:26
schestowitz “Unfortunately, given your tendancy towards sensationalist ad hominem attacks Feb 25 21:26
schestowitz Feb 25 21:26
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/08/asso… <http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/08/as… Feb 25 21:26
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2… <http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07… Feb 25 21:26
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/0… <http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10…  “ Feb 25 21:26
trmanco no matter how much lipstick you put in the code it always looks confusing to me Feb 25 21:26
balzac what code? Feb 25 21:28
trmanco python Feb 25 21:28
schestowitz Python Feb 25 21:28
balzac ah Feb 25 21:28
trmanco do yo hear the snake? Feb 25 21:28
balzac I haven’t done anything in python Feb 25 21:28
schestowitz That’s viper Feb 25 21:29
balzac but I plan to learn because two great apps I use have python as their scripting language for extensions: GIMP and Blender Feb 25 21:29
trmanco I have read, that people who get tired of PHP make their next move to Python Feb 25 21:29
trmanco can’t find any php project to contribute to Feb 25 21:32
schestowitz WordPress..? Feb 25 21:33
trmanco Too hard for now Feb 25 21:33
trmanco I don’t have that kind of knowledge to contribute to that Feb 25 21:34
trmanco codding ,that is Feb 25 21:34
trmanco coding* Feb 25 21:34
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schestowitz Watch how Microsoft cripples computers: “Microsoft and Intel have indicated that they plan to take control of how netbooks are sold and configured: killing off Windows XP once and for all is top of the former’s todo list.” http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/02/23/d… Feb 25 21:41
schestowitz trmanco: take a plugin and extend it Feb 25 21:41
balzac fugg that Feb 25 21:42
schestowitz http://www.sciencedaily.com/release… Feb 25 21:42
balzac Maybe I’ll buy a $100 netbook with the chinese Longsoon processor Feb 25 21:42
schestowitz In the US? Feb 25 21:42
balzac not yet Feb 25 21:42
balzac it was only vaporware Feb 25 21:42
schestowitz The bullies from Intel would bite tooth and nail to keep competition out Feb 25 21:42
balzac but it will happen Feb 25 21:42
schestowitz Yes, it will. Feb 25 21:42
trmanco schestowitz, that is a good idea, now I’ll just have to find a plugin worth forking Feb 25 21:43
balzac I want the google gphone Feb 25 21:43
trmanco but it won’t be today Feb 25 21:43
schestowitz But the criminals (bribes, collusion, etc) from Intel are bullying the Chinese companies. Feb 25 21:43
balzac I want to have an internet terminal in my pocket Feb 25 21:43
balzac i’m going to buy that little sucker – developer version Feb 25 21:43
schestowitz No openmoko? Feb 25 21:43
balzac i checked out the keyboard layout and it has most of the keys a programmer would want on a phone Feb 25 21:44
schestowitz New: http://opensourcepbx.tmcnet.com/topics/deve… “The reference implementation uses Openmoko’s NeoFreerunner and features advanced touch screen and customizable graphical user interface (GUI). The Ample also offers versatile applications such as a multimedia player and communications tools.” Feb 25 21:44
balzac well, I want one of those too, but the gphone has this keyboard Feb 25 21:44
balzac the openmoko needs to copy the gphone’s hardware Feb 25 21:44
balzac the terminal… Feb 25 21:44
schestowitz balzac: you’re gonna love this headline: http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4214 Feb 25 21:45
schestowitz gphone has no hardware Feb 25 21:45
schestowitz Android is a set of software Feb 25 21:45
schestowitz G1 is one phone among many (h/w+android+tweaks) Feb 25 21:46
balzac ok, the G1 Feb 25 21:47
balzac I like that hardware. I’ve got to have that keyboard. That’s why I’d never buy an iphone. Feb 25 21:47
balzac that headline is what the press release should have said on Redhat.com Feb 25 21:48
MinceR http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?s… Feb 25 21:48
MinceR ^ regarding the Big Lie Feb 25 21:48
schestowitz Unemployment goes up, traffic congestion goes down < http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Seattle_ra… > Feb 25 21:48
schestowitz balzac: LOL Feb 25 21:48
balzac But I guess CEOs are now afraid to talk trash about M$ because Steve Ballmer will make a point of crushing them. Feb 25 21:48
MinceR hm, you could use viper to edit python code :> Feb 25 21:49
schestowitz MinceR: kudos to /. for posting something decent for a change Feb 25 21:50
MinceR indeed Feb 25 21:50
schestowitz “It seems Microsoft doesn’t believe the data from Net Applications ” *LOL* Microsoft !!PAYS!!  Net Applications Feb 25 21:50
schestowitz The funny thing is that once a year (at least) Ballmer calls Linux the #1 threat Feb 25 21:50
schestowitz Then come the Astrofluffers with links to the MS-sponsored Net FUDlication Feb 25 21:50
balzac Don’t be drinking a beverage when you see this cartoon of Steve Ballmer or it might come out your nose: http://dr-ian.livejournal.com/26874.html Feb 25 21:52
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balzac http://www.mobilewhack.com/wp-content…  <– Ballmer ducking the eggs in Hungary Feb 25 21:54
MinceR i doubt monkey boy is that ripped Feb 25 21:55
balzac http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadge… Feb 25 21:55
balzac He’s such a funny m__________r Feb 25 21:55
balzac MinceR: I doubt it too, which is partly why it’s funny to me. Feb 25 22:00
schestowitz MinceR: Asay told me he wants to meet him Feb 25 22:09
schestowitz But sheesh… don’t say him name.. we don’t want the malicious entrance.. Feb 25 22:10
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schestowitz Asay [one hour ago]: “As to meeting Ballmer, I wish I could.  Why is that a strike against him?” Feb 25 22:10
MinceR :) Feb 25 22:10
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schestowitz But it needs context Feb 25 22:11
schestowitz I warned him about a mole that’s meeting Ballmer Feb 25 22:11
MinceR i’d like to meet him if there was no danger of retribution for killing him. Feb 25 22:11
MinceR (ballmer, that is) Feb 25 22:11
schestowitz eggs? Feb 25 22:11
schestowitz What’s for breakfast? Feb 25 22:11
schestowitz Cake! :-) http://geekgaucho.blogspot.com/… Feb 25 22:13
schestowitz “the only moment where I smiled after seeing Gates on TV!:” Feb 25 22:13
schestowitz “What the [user] is supposed to do is feel uncomfortable, and when he has bugs, suspect that the problem is DR-DOS and then go out to buy MS-DOS” -Brad Silverberg Feb 25 22:14
MinceR it was just a cake :/ Feb 25 22:19
MinceR it should have been a hand grenade Feb 25 22:19
MinceR or it should have had a nice acid flavor Feb 25 22:20
MinceR or lye Feb 25 22:20
Balrog so now the university wants to use this: http://www.panopto.com/ but it also depends on silverlight and doesn’t work with moonlight (says “please install silverlight”) Feb 25 22:20
balzac come on now… Feb 25 22:20
MinceR my university sucks too Feb 25 22:20
balzac Myself, I wouldn’t even bother to pie Bill Gates. Feb 25 22:21
Balrog tjey used WMV before. Feb 25 22:21
Balrog http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/… Feb 25 22:21
balzac But I’m glad someone did. Feb 25 22:21
Balrog thing is, they’re open to FOSS Feb 25 22:21
Balrog but it needs to be workable Feb 25 22:21
balzac Gates is the arch-villain in the software world, but compared to most politicians, Bill Gates seems like a saint. Feb 25 22:22
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2009/0… Feb 25 22:22
MinceR most politicians deserve death too Feb 25 22:22
balzac Compare George Bush and Bill Gates Feb 25 22:22
MinceR still, i hate gates more than bush Feb 25 22:22
MinceR the damage bush did was mostly localized to the usa Feb 25 22:23
MinceR the damage gates did is worldwide Feb 25 22:23
MinceR even without people like those we’d still have way too many people on this planet Feb 25 22:23
balzac You can make the case for putting Bush on trial for treason, war-crimes, etc. This is a case we should be making, even if that raises the question of whether or not capital punishment should be considered. But this is all about a legal process. Feb 25 22:23
schestowitz Bush caused damage in the east as well. Feb 25 22:23
schestowitz Damage that’s mortal too Feb 25 22:24
MinceR i don’t care much about legal issues, i care about moral issues. Feb 25 22:24
schestowitz Or tossing Iraq back from the verge of modern country back ti 3rd world. Feb 25 22:24
balzac Gates? He deserves to have his company lose its market-share, to lose a lot of his wealth to fines and settlements, and to have his ego deflated. Feb 25 22:24
schestowitz balzac: Bush was already punished for his crime. He had a coupla sandals thrown at him. Very humiliating.,.. Feb 25 22:25
balzac And perhaps he deserves a light sentence to be spent in a half-way house if investigation reveals law breaking as President of MS. Feb 25 22:25
MinceR i doubt that would undo the damage or punish him properly Feb 25 22:25
schestowitz And it’s the saint that goes to jail for 15 years. Feb 25 22:25
balzac ? Feb 25 22:25
balzac I suppose it’s sarcasm. Feb 25 22:26
schestowitz balzac: that wouldn’t suffice Feb 25 22:26
schestowitz The Gates family has corruption spread wider Feb 25 22:26
balzac Bush could spend centuries, screaming like a tea-kettle in hell, and it probably wouldn’t be enough. Feb 25 22:26
MinceR why waste money on feeding gates in prison? Feb 25 22:26
schestowitz People like Abramoff (already in jail), the Ballmers, Kepin, Silverberg, etc. Feb 25 22:26
schestowitz *Kempin Feb 25 22:26
schestowitz There are many criminals there. Feb 25 22:26
MinceR he has shown no remorse nor any respect for the freedom of others. Feb 25 22:26
schestowitz They are tyrants at hears, but then again, corporations are permitted to do some of these crimes. Feb 25 22:27
schestowitz http://opensource.org/node/396 “It turns out that people had been trying to blow the whistle on Bernie Madoff for 10 years, but such whistle-blowing fell on deaf ears, perhaps because the regulators were simply too impressed with Madoff’s self-described success to do their jobs effectively.” Feb 25 22:27
schestowitz IOW, all those people who say MS is a fraud are liekly right Feb 25 22:27
schestowitz But Microsoft is too busy telling the world that it’s rich Feb 25 22:27
balzac Neither Madoff or Gates should go to jail before Bush. Feb 25 22:28
schestowitz It’s said to be another scheme Feb 25 22:28
schestowitz balzac: agreed. Feb 25 22:28
MinceR indeed, they should be executed Feb 25 22:28
balzac Not one more person should go to prison until Bush goes. Feb 25 22:28
schestowitz Hehe. No. Feb 25 22:28
balzac MinceR: that’s too extreme, by a long shot. Feb 25 22:28
schestowitz Jail can be more humiliating. Feb 25 22:28
MinceR balzac: what they did wasn’t too extreme? Feb 25 22:28
schestowitz You can also used them to help recording the crimes they committed Feb 25 22:28
MinceR can we ever expect them to be non-harmful members of our society? Feb 25 22:28
balzac MinceR: your rhetoric isn’t even in the ballpark. Feb 25 22:28
schestowitz Make a museum to study how the economy collapsed due to white-collar crime. Feb 25 22:29
schestowitz Infinite greed… Feb 25 22:29
schestowitz BTW, the economy hasn’t collapsed yet. Feb 25 22:29
MinceR normally i oppose death penalty because our justice system isn’t reliable Feb 25 22:29
schestowitz You’ll know it happens when the chain reaction of banks collapsing has begun. Feb 25 22:29
balzac Mincer, if you think Gates is worse than Bush, I think you ought to recalibrate your moral scale. Feb 25 22:29
MinceR but i think gates and his little gang has made an overwhelmingly strong case for themselves. Feb 25 22:29
MinceR balzac: why is the chronological order so important to you? Feb 25 22:30
balzac Bush is so much more malevolent than Gates. By an order of magnitude. Feb 25 22:30
schestowitz balzac: I happen to agree that people like Madoff should get the chair Feb 25 22:30
balzac schestowitz: that’s extreme Feb 25 22:30
schestowitz I’m amazed at the fact that these huge criminals get house arrest Feb 25 22:30
MinceR i’m not that well informed about what bush did Feb 25 22:30
schestowitz What kind of a sick society is this? Feb 25 22:30
MinceR thankfully i don’t live in the usa Feb 25 22:30
balzac Roy, don’t hate the player, hate the game. Feb 25 22:30
schestowitz Where people smoke plants and get sent to jail Feb 25 22:30
schestowitz While huge FR*ing criminals are treated so gently? Feb 25 22:31
balzac Madoff didn’t invent un-regulated capitalism, although he was a pioneer in furthering it. Feb 25 22:31
schestowitz That’s because elites respect eleites Feb 25 22:31
MinceR schestowitz: the world is run by criminals Feb 25 22:31
schestowitz And they treat those at the botom like rubbish Feb 25 22:31
MinceR also, it’s human nature Feb 25 22:31
MinceR or perhaps indoctrination Feb 25 22:31
MinceR people might be simply taught to be evil at an early age Feb 25 22:31
schestowitz I bet you so many of the judges are uterly corupt, so they feel guilty sentencing the other big criminals for their deeds. Feb 25 22:31
schestowitz *utterly corrupt Feb 25 22:31
MinceR they feel guilt? Feb 25 22:32
MinceR that’s new Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz Balrog: the game is made by players Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz It’s like saying, don’t like the people, hate the company Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz Companies ARE people Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz The game is RUN by people. Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz People RUN the world Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz Find those who ruin it Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz It’ll make things easier Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz By that logic, why blame Bush? Feb 25 22:32
schestowitz Blame the ‘government’ Feb 25 22:32
MinceR hm, how long was bush in office for? Feb 25 22:32
balzac Hand Bush over to the Hague, after he’s convicted of treason. Feb 25 22:33
schestowitz Sentence the ‘government’ to jail. Feb 25 22:33
schestowitz Send the white house to Guantanamo Bay for torturing Feb 25 22:33
MinceR i’m pretty sure gates did his crimes for a longer time period. Feb 25 22:33
MinceR can we trust the Hague to convict him? Feb 25 22:33
MinceR (bush, that is) Feb 25 22:33
schestowitz Heck, sent that lady that’s the statue of liberty for some waterboarding. Feb 25 22:33
balzac After that, I wouldn’t object if Gates were found guilty of personally participating in conspiracies to break the law and spent time in prison, but I would want him to be safe, not in danger from violent criminals. Feb 25 22:33
schestowitz because, you know… she’s ‘America’ Feb 25 22:33
MinceR schestowitz: lol Feb 25 22:33
schestowitz And it’s America’s fault Feb 25 22:34
balzac I don’t think non-violent criminals should be at risk of suffering violence from other inmates. Feb 25 22:34
balzac That’s one serious problem with American prisons. Feb 25 22:34
MinceR not other inmates, no Feb 25 22:34
MinceR gates should suffer violence from an industrial grinder. Feb 25 22:34
schestowitz balzac: ask yourself why some people areviolent Feb 25 22:34
balzac Actually, the state should be held liable for prisoner’s injuries and deaths and their next of kin should be compensated with millions of dollars whenever people die in state custody. Feb 25 22:35
schestowitz When people who are slaves to other can you blame them for protesting in the streets? Feb 25 22:35
balzac It shouldn’t ever be allowed to happen. Feb 25 22:35
schestowitz That makes little sense when you hear that the /white/ (as in white) collar criminals should get setenced to sofa, coffee, and TC. Feb 25 22:35
balzac nor should any type of violation of prisoners rights be acceptable, least of all, rape. Feb 25 22:36
schestowitz *TV Feb 25 22:36
balzac All prisoners should get sentenced only to what the court orders, but not to the risk of random acts of violence while in custody. Feb 25 22:36
schestowitz balzac: who talked about prison violence? Feb 25 22:36
balzac I did Feb 25 22:36
schestowitz You’re suggesting that ‘poor’ white-collar criminals are unfit to prison. Feb 25 22:37
balzac because American prisons are not safe. Feb 25 22:37
schestowitz Prisons are for punishment and confinement Feb 25 22:37
balzac I don’t see any reason to put violent criminals and white-collar criminals together. Feb 25 22:37
schestowitz You can make something like Guatanamo Bay Feb 25 22:37
schestowitz Maybe around Alaska where it’s cold Feb 25 22:37
schestowitz Or Siberia Feb 25 22:37
balzac Yeah, well I’m not a big fan of prisons. I’ll never see the inside of one. Feb 25 22:38
MinceR or in the Sun Feb 25 22:38
schestowitz Send there the lines of Gates, ballmer, Silverberg, Nathan Mhyrvold, Madoff, Carl Ichan and other criminals chums. Feb 25 22:38
MinceR or on the Moon Feb 25 22:38
MinceR (no life support though) Feb 25 22:38
schestowitz No, no.. Feb 25 22:38
schestowitz That’s expensive Feb 25 22:38
schestowitz Rockets are also harmful to the atrosphere. Feb 25 22:38
MinceR at least we won’t have to guard and feed them then Feb 25 22:38
schestowitz Enough damage was /already/ done. Feb 25 22:39
schestowitz Then you need to ship oxygen for them. Feb 25 22:39
MinceR we’re going to need rockets eventually, anyway Feb 25 22:39
schestowitz Do you know how much that would cost? Feb 25 22:39
MinceR this planet will become uninhabitable in about 5 billion years, iirc Feb 25 22:39
MinceR :) Feb 25 22:39
schestowitz The planet will be fine, I think Feb 25 22:40
schestowitz It’s animals and civilisations that are at risk Feb 25 22:40
schestowitz Not bacteria  though Feb 25 22:40
schestowitz Because men can’t eat becteria so well. Feb 25 22:40
MinceR hence “uninhabitable” Feb 25 22:40
MinceR the sun will engulf the planet as it turns into a red giant Feb 25 22:41
schestowitz 5 billion years is a lot of time Feb 25 22:41
schestowitz The ‘UNIX clock’ won’t last that long Feb 25 22:41
MinceR but not infinite Feb 25 22:41
MinceR not even the 64bit one? Feb 25 22:41
schestowitz Not even if it’s made 64-bit, AFAIK. Feb 25 22:41
schestowitz Beat me to it! Feb 25 22:41
schestowitz The Indians are coming  < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer… > Feb 25 22:42
schestowitz It cites the FOSS-hostile shills from Frosted Sullivans[sic] Feb 25 22:43
schestowitz Speaking of ‘analysts’….. Feb 25 22:44
schestowitz I’ve inquired to see who funds some… but they won’t tell. They are not allowed. Feb 25 22:45
schestowitz Shill O’Brian has just used BN to promote .NET Feb 25 22:46
schestowitz Yeah.. some ‘FOSS’ people, aren’t they…>? Feb 25 22:46
schestowitz They do the same even in Ubuntu turf… criticise mono, be attacked. The threats are not censored as much as suppressed or marginalised. I gave examples with about 10 links in: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08/21/mon… Feb 25 22:47
schestowitz There are more examples just like this, in other Web sites too. Novell employees (posting from the novell.com domain) are among those posting comments in defense of Mono/Moonlight under boycottnovell. Some of the dissent comes from there, but they use nyms like “Baby in the Bath Water”. Feb 25 22:47
schestowitz Novell is making .NET more popular. Shame on Novell. It’s just another Microsoft department now… producing ‘Windows addons’ like netware and some Microsoft plugins for Linux (Mono, Moonlight) Feb 25 22:48
schestowitz For that task, they must be inside Linux, so they have SUSE, they have membership in places like Linux Foundation, etc. They gag critics that way. Feb 25 22:48
balzac I would like to associate mono (project) with mono (contagious disease) in people’s minds Feb 25 22:49
schestowitz I associated it with other things Feb 25 22:49
MinceR i’d like to have microsoft and novell closed down. Feb 25 22:50
schestowitz I alsol tried to associated Silver s*ite with toilet and vomit. Feb 25 22:50
schestowitz RMS was unimpressed Feb 25 22:50
schestowitz Gallium3D, EGL Now Buildable On FreeBSD < http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php… > Feb 25 22:52
balzac he’s a rather mellow guy Feb 25 22:52
MinceR it must be the week of excel vulnerabilities >> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid… Feb 25 22:56
schestowitz “Products affected include Office 2000, Office 2002, Office 2003, Office 2007, Office 2004 for Mac, Office 2008 for Mac, and the Open XML File Format Converter for Mac.” Feb 25 22:57
schestowitz OOXML+Mac= owned Feb 25 22:57
MinceR hm, no, it’s a dupe Feb 25 22:57
schestowitz The mixture of binaries Feb 25 22:57
schestowitz Thank goodness Microsoft keeps Office away from the hands of unsuspecting users who come to Linux for its “cheapness” Feb 25 22:58
MinceR dupes for nerds, stuff that you’ve read already. Feb 25 22:58
MinceR ;) Feb 25 22:58
schestowitz That too. Feb 25 22:58
schestowitz I’m surprised many people still read it. Feb 25 22:59
schestowitz Hmm.. Alexa rank 10k Feb 25 22:59
schestowitz BN is 58k and we don’t even attract people with MS+IE+spyware (alexa) Feb 25 22:59
schestowitz BN Netcraft rank= 2300th Feb 25 22:59
MinceR well, it still has the occasional juvenile humor. Feb 25 22:59
schestowitz Groklaw is 1400th or so Feb 25 22:59
schestowitz Hehe. Feb 25 22:59
schestowitz BN’s Netcraft rank is better than Slashdot’s Feb 25 23:00
schestowitz Oh nwait.. Feb 25 23:00
schestowitz it.slashdot… Feb 25 23:00
schestowitz slashdot.org is 484th Feb 25 23:01
schestowitz Duke NuK…………. X Server 1.6.0 Has Been Released < http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page… > Feb 25 23:05
*Casperin has quit (Remote closed the connection) Feb 25 23:23
schestowitz Adobe Flash gets patch for critical flaw < http://www.computerworlduk.com/manage… > Feb 25 23:28
schestowitz “The job vacancies related to Windows continue to fall at scaring speed since December 2008. Meanwhile Linux and Unix vacancies stay similar to past months.” http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?… Feb 25 23:32
schestowitz MS partner: Nortel to cut 3,200 workers < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/2… > Feb 25 23:35
balzac good news for change in the world of software Feb 25 23:36
MinceR gn Feb 25 23:41
schestowitz Hehe.. see my comment here: http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/24/how-to-win-c… Feb 25 23:45
balzac later MinceR Feb 25 23:45
schestowitz Getting Consumers to Pay Now for Nukes Later < http://www.prwatch.org/node/8234 > Feb 25 23:54
schestowitz “I sometimes wonder if anyone keeps track of how many PR people Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer drives into cardiac arrest.” http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/corpor… Feb 25 23:57
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  1. martin said,

    February 26, 2009 at 7:43 am

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    This TomTom thing is a big deal. You need to write about it!

    In the beginning of 2008 TomTom traded at 70 euro per stock on the Dutch stockmarket. Now they are worth 3 euro per stock. Microsoft is hitting hard on a company that is already in the drain. How can TomTom afford to defend themselves after a disaster year like 2008 was for them? Microsoft has got money for sure, and with this economy everyone will be scared to step up against Microsoft. They are using the economic climate to bully the entire industry (remember TomTom is just one company, they used blackmail to extract license fee’s from many companies before this).

    Soon MS will monopolize the patent trolling business. I hope people will react to this and create a new better faster light-weight FS sort of like what happened with the GIF -> PNG transition (and which is happening right now with the OGG revolution driven by Wikipedia and Mozilla).

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