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USPTO is Imperialistic

Posted in America, Asia, Europe, GNU/Linux, LG, Microsoft, Patents at 7:56 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Napoleon in His Study

Summary: Another new set of examples where the USPTO hijacks other countries’ policies and threatens businesses overseas using the ITC

EARLIER THIS YEAR we showed how lobbyists from 'NZ'ICT et al. were taking over the patent system in New Zealand. Similar tricks are being used in Europe (“device” as means of legalising software patents) and there is also UPLS [1, 2, 3], which has the potential to export the USPTO guidelines (permitting software patents) to the European Union. It’s a sort of US imperialism, in the sense that laws which empower the United States are forced upon other countries. The UPLS recently faced some “legal setback”, confirms IDG. They will probably just dress that up as something else, maybe just rename it once again.

The European Court of Justice looks set to derail plans for a common patent system across the European Union. The court’s Advocate General believes that a centralized patent is “incompatible with the treaties” that created the E.U., according to a leaked document.

USPTO imperialism through back room deals is not out of the ordinary and in Russia there seems to be advancement for this plot at the moment:

The U.S. Patent & Trademark Office and its equivalent in Russia are launching a one-year pilot program on Sept. 1 to fast-track each other’s approved patent applications.

Such “Patent Prosecution Highway Programs” allow patent offices to use each other’s work to help process applications more quickly.

That would potentially facilitate some mergers in the future. Might the EPO implement something similar? East Asia, notably Japan and Korea, has already been hit by the disease which is software patents, with victims or accomplices such as LG, which pays Microsoft for Linux. LG has just been hit by a patent infringement investigation and possible embargo by the US:

NOT EVEN A HAIR’S BREADTH away from being embroiled in a price fixing investigation, LG is being investigated for alleged patent infringement.

It’s the US International Trade Commission (ITC) [1, 2, 3, 4, 5], imposing US rules on Asian companies (the ITC is like the USPTO’s ‘enforcement agency’, imposing sanctions such as embargoes). Don’t nations get tired of being bossed around by a nation overseas, whose patent office has gone out of control and now nurtures patent trolls in industrial quantities?

IRC Proceedings: August 30th, 2010

Posted in IRC Logs at 7:17 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz




#techrights log

#boycottnovell log

#boycottnovell-social log

Enter the IRC channels now

Oracle Promotes hypePod/hypeTunes Just Weeks After Suing Android, Java’s Founder Has Message for Ellison

Posted in Google, Java, Oracle, Patents at 6:58 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Leisure Suit Larry Ellison

Summary: Oracle is promoting Apple’s products and Mister Java himself creates t-shirt designs to protest against Ellison’s decision to sue Google with his own patents

WHEN Oracle announced that it was suing Google over Android we immediately (on the first day) pointed out that Ellison and Jobs are close friends [1, 2], which may give motivation for Oracle to sue and thus help hypePhone. Other people pointed this out later on and now there’s evidence showing that Oracle is actively promoting Apple products:

Create an Oracle online account today and we’ll give you a Free $10 iTunes Gift Card or Iron Man 2 Poster

Dear Brandon,

A lot of great things will be coming from the combination of Oracle and Sun and you’ll want to stay informed! Keep up to date by creating an Oracle online account today and receive a free iTunes gift card or Iron Man 2 poster if you’re one of the first 12,000 to respond.

Simply follow the link below and tell us a little more about yourself. You can opt-in to receive news and information about products and events from Oracle, and if you’re one of the first 12,000 to reply you’ll receive a free gift card or Iron Man 2 poster.

Real classy, Larry. For those who don’t know, Larry Ellison appears in the film Iron Man 2. He is a real charlatan. Meanwhile we get to realise that Google gets proactively expelled (it withdrew for obvious reasons) from Oracle’s Java events. We put citations in daily links. There are alternatives planned though and Java’s founder has a stunt coming:

  • JavaOne conference may get a rival

    Media company Software & Support Media (S&S) plans to offer a U.S.-based version of its JAX (Java Apache XML) conference, which the company has been conducting in Germany for several years.

    “A lot of the Java community has been a little upset about how the JavaOne conference is being [run] by Oracle,” said a source familiar with S&S plans.

  • Let Larry know you care

    I whipped up a couple of t-shirt designs on the topic of Oracle’s commitment to releasing Java. If you’re attending JavaOne or OpenWorld, I’d appreciate it if you’d wear one, just to let Larry know that you care. Or if you just happen to be wandering the neighborhood (I know that there are lots of Java hackers who work within just a few blocks of Moscone).

  • Oracle, Sun, Java: lawsuits mark the exit road

    James clearly points out the fact that JavaME fragmentation was a substantial hurdle for developers, and believes that in a lesser way this may be true for Android as well. While it is true that fragmentation was a problem for Java on mobile, this was a common aspect of mobile development at the time (go ask a Windows Mobile developer about fragmentation. And see a grown man cry, as the song says). The problem of JavaME was not fragmentation, but lack of movement – the basic toolkits, the UI components, most of the libraries for one reason or the other remained largely unchanged apart a few bug fixes. JavaFX should have been promoted much, much earlier, and would have had a great impact on software development, like (I believe) the more recent Qt releases from Nokia and their idea of declarative user interfaces.

    If we compare with the rest of Java, we see a much stronger push towards adding libraries, components, functionalities: all things that made Java one of the best choices for software developers in the enterprise space, because the developers can trust Sun to update and extend their platform, making their job easier and faster. It was the same approach that made Microsoft the king of software: create lots of tools and libraries for developers, sometimes even trying to push more than one approach at a time to see what sticks (like Fahrenheit) , or trying very experimental and skunkworks approach, that later are turned into more mature projects (like WinG). JavaEE and JavaSE followed the same model, with a consistent stream of additions and updates that created a confidence in developers – and, despite all the naysayers, for enterprise software Java was portable with very little effort, even for very large applications.

Steve Lohr over at the New York Times continues to watch this case, which is only a few weeks old [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6].

Gates Foundation and Microsoft Both Hate Sharing, Love Taking

Posted in Africa, Bill Gates, Free/Libre Software, Microsoft, Office Suites, Patents at 6:31 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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Summary: Microsoft is exploiting work on FreeType and Bill Gates exploits African people for their money/labour

A MONTH ago we wrote a long post about FreeType and Microsoft's barriers to it. Microsoft uses patent monopolies to achieve this.

Isn’t it nerve-wracking that Microsoft has the nerve to lift FreeType (which it threatens) and use it in Microsoft Office?

There’s more of this “open” Microsoft PR busting in Slashdot (with discussion). The summary says: “Now Microsoft must love free software. Indeed, Office 2011 for Mac (beta 5 at least) uses Freetype! Somehow they figured out the free software ‘clean room implementation’ of their own (patented) TrueType technology must better suit their needs.”

Red Hat’s Jan Wildeboer (Red Hat makes Libration Fonts available) writes: “ROTFL MSFT uses FreeType, seems to be best implementation of their truetype tech ;-) http://i35.tinypic.com/jazx2t.jpg

“People ought to remember that Microsoft was created by parasites who took other people’s “free labour” (hard work) and used that to create copies, often illegally.”So here we have another lesson in what “Open Source” means to Microsoft. It means “free labour” to harvest, to exploit, and to then use for PR purposes (as in “we love open source”). Microsoft has a long history like that, dating back even to early versions of Windows which took a BSD-licensed TCP/IP stack.

People ought to remember that Microsoft was created by parasites who took other people’s “free labour” (hard work) and used that to create copies, often illegally. Bill Gates famously said: “I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating systems.”

Bill Gates is still a parasite, but he has money to employ PR agents who spin it all as “charity”. Even while he makes money investing in Monsanto (which will earn money at the expense of impoverished African people) Gates pretends to help poor Africans. We are very pleased that Gates has received the blinding lights of truth shining into his eyes, revealing to the world his true agenda in Africa [1, 2] (along with Rockefeller). This PR disaster keeps spreading.

This is unfortunate. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has certainly been hard at work trying to improve healthcare around the world, but the latest news is that the Foundation has decided to invest in Monsanto, a company famous for widely abusing intellectual property laws to make people a lot less healthy, to increase the cost of some key foods important to feeding the hungry and to generally scare researchers from sharing important information with one another, for fear that it will be patented and locked up.

Glyn Moody’s response to this (“Gates Foundation Invests in Monsanto”) was: “intellectual monopolists made for each other”

It’s all about artificial scarcity (patents) and exploitation even when it’s called “philanthropy”. The latest Gates PR (Khan Academy) apparently comes from author of “The Silicon Boys”, a book that covers Bill Gates. Watch how the publicists try to spin Gates as a lover of sharing. Gates is just the queen of bees, laying all the eggs and enjoying the labour of “workers”.

Microsoft is Still Attacking “Open Source” and Standards, But Has No Other Choice

Posted in Free/Libre Software, Microsoft, Open XML, OpenDocument, Standard at 5:52 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Halloween related

Summary: Microsoft is being crushed by software freedom, so in order to survive it can only invent bogus standards and a bogus definition of the very same paradigm it’s competing against and trying to coopt

MICROSOFT is kind neither to “Open Source” nor to standards. The former subject was covered here a lot recently, after dishonest remarks from “OOXML Paoli” [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] and OOXML itself is proof that Microsoft does not care about standards, either. Rather than go along with everybody towards ODF it just created its own bogus proprietary format and tried to call that “a standard”. It even put its proprietary VML in it, thus harming SVG, the industry standard. This is still going on, even after Mirosoft pretended to have befriended SVG [1, 2]. Penguin Pete has this new cartoon called “The eternal curse” [of Microsoft's violation of Web standards] and it’s a good summary of Microsoft’s ill effects on the Internet. Internet Explorer still lacks SVG support, for example.

Brian Proffitt has an interesting and more creative interpretation of Microsoft’s latest spin on “Open Source”. He says Microsoft has no choice but to assimilate simply because “Open Source” is the winning team.

Why Microsoft is Being Nicer to Open Source

If there was any take-away I got from LinuxCon a couple of weeks ago, it was this: open source has finally become mainstream.

I mean, there was really little doubt. Companies and independent developers have been using open source for years now, with little regard to the old FUD that said “if you use this software, little Stallman-like demons will eat your soul!”

Or somesuch.

But the thing that really drove this home was when Evan Moglen, lawyer to the Free Software stars, described the subtle shift in how developers approach open source.

When open source first started, Moglen said, it was the developers and engineers who truly understood open source, and they were the personnel that would educate and teach others about the notions of free and open source software. This is certainly true, because it goes a long way to also explaining why this training and education took a while for business to understand, since business-types and engineering-types don’t often communicate to each other very well.

That post ought to say Eben, not Evan. Either way, isn’t it fascinating to see Moglen and Stallman mentioned in the context of business? Microsoft — with the help of minions such as Microsoft Florian — has been attempting to paint Stallman as a radical and Moglen as a communist, interchangeably (they try this even in this Web site). The reality is, there is nothing more communistic than a software monopoly where control and special privileges belong to just a few. “Open Source” is free market, it’s capitalism; proprietary monopoly on the other hand is tyranny, it’s more like communism. Any real proponent of capitalism and a truly democratic society should strive to advance software freedom, which much like today’s Western systems possibly embodies few elements of socialism.

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Says VMware Takeover Would Suit Novell (Although Not Sidestep Microsoft)

Posted in Microsoft, Novell, Rumour, SLES/SLED, Virtualisation, VMware at 5:18 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Steven J. Vaughan-NicholsSummary: SJVN adds his weight to speculators who reckon that Novell may negotiate a sale to VMware, which is run by Microsoft executives who left Microsoft

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols (SJVN) believes that it’s reasonable for VMware to buy Novell right now, regardless of all the recent rumours that say so as well. Now that takeovers time is due for one Novell-sized company (HP buys 3PAR for Novell’s market value), he explains the logic as follows:

VMware and Novell have already partnered to bring SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) to VMware vSphere virtual machines. During Novell’s earnings call, Novell CEO Ron Hovsepian said that VMware sales staff has incentives to sell SUSE support and services to their customers. Hovsepian added that VMware and Novell would expand on what’s going on with their partnership at this coming week’s VMworld trade show.

Could the two companies announce a merger? There have been rumors for some time that VMware might buy Novell. I don’t know much about those rumors, but I do know that it’s a deal that makes a lot of sense for both companies.

The title of the above post is “VMware should buy Novell” and I asked the author: “should? You want lots of Microsoft execs to own Novell and UNIX??”

“…VMware has been no friend to MSFT, or vice-versa, for the last year or so.”
      –Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
He replies by saying “”Should” as in it makes biz sense. Also VMware has been no friend to MSFT, or vice-versa, for the last year or so. Check it out”

There has been some chatter in blogs recently about VMware as Novell’s escape route from Microsoft dependency, but it ought to be known that VMware is now run by former Microsoft executives, so the relationship with Microsoft would not evaporate completely.

Vaughan-Nichols also links to this post from a colleague of his, who helps promote SUSE Studio (SJVN does not oppose the Novell/Microsoft deal, he never did) and earlier today he promoted Novell for “peaceful co-existence” (which we don’t agree patent deals bring about):

Novell and Microsoft are more than happy to help you bridge the gap between Linux and Windows.

Once upon a time, bridging the gap between Windows and Linux in the server room or the office was… difficult. Today, while no one’s going to call it easy, Novell and Microsoft have worked hard on ensuring interoperability doesn’t require either a Linux wizard or a Windows expert.

The two technology giants have been at this since they formed their unlikely partnership in November, 2006. Almost five years later, besides the business benefits the two companies have found in working together, Novell and Microsoft have made considerable progress in getting Linux and Windows to get along both on the server and the desktop level.

It’s all just intended to sell more Windows and less GNU/Linux. We covered this before.

Mono Project Seems to be Dying (Development Virtually Halted) (Updated)

Posted in GNU/Linux, Microsoft, Mono, Novell at 4:41 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Update: As raised as a possible explanation by myself in the IRC channel (I was deceived by others), Mono just moved to Git. Nonetheless, news about Mono and Moonlight has been extremely scarce for months, so the project clearly lost a lot of momentum.

Monkey bones

Summary: Mono development is nearly non-existent over the past month or so

MONO AND MOONLIGHT begin to show early signs of death. Both Mono and Moonlight are hardly heard from anymore and lack of endorsement from the FSF (the FSF discourages use of C#) could not do much to help, could it? Based on SVN branches [1, 2], either the entire development team at Novell takes a massively long summer vacation or the project is radically de-emphasised. So the question is, what happens to those who depend on Mono in the long term? Novell is up for sale and Miguel de Icaza is busy cleaning their toilets instead of coding or even blogging. The Mono problem was discussed in IRC a short while ago (partial logs below).

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justin__ hey, looks like you guys might be right about mono project being dead Aug 30 20:34
justin__ http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/ Aug 30 20:34
TechrightsBot-tr Title: [Mono] Index of /trunk .::. Size~: 54.05 KB Aug 30 20:34
justin__ notice the dates Aug 30 20:34
justin__ no activity on any module for weeks Aug 30 20:34
gnufreex I thought Mono uses Git? Aug 30 20:35
justin__ looks like svn to me Aug 30 20:35
justin__ http://www.mono-project.com/AnonSVN Aug 30 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr Title: AnonSVN – Mono .::. Size~: 10.11 KB Aug 30 20:36
gnufreex I see that there is no activity for years… maybe they switched to Git Aug 30 20:36
gnufreex Ah Aug 30 20:36
gnufreex Yes Aug 30 20:36
justin__ some are only a few weeks of inactivity Aug 30 20:36
gnufreex You are right Aug 30 20:36
gnufreex Let’s hope it is dead Aug 30 20:36
gnufreex Novell is firing people to stay profitable Aug 30 20:36
justin__ might explain why there is so little news Aug 30 20:36
justin__ about mono/moonlie Aug 30 20:36
justin__ yea Aug 30 20:37
justin__ they are going to be the next sco Aug 30 20:37
schestowitz Wait Aug 30 20:37
gnufreex Mono is just microsoft pet project, no outside contributors. Just Novell and Microsoft Aug 30 20:37
schestowitz I’m catching up here :-) Aug 30 20:37
schestowitz So was there an svn/git confusion? Aug 30 20:37
gnufreex And Microsoft is angry on Novell because VMware partnership Aug 30 20:37
schestowitz Or verified freeze? Aug 30 20:37
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Comment in the #neckbeard troll http://ur1.ca/1e5jb “It would be better if you would make the wallpaper if you don’t like the default.” Aug 30 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr Title: The joke that is Mavericks default wallpaper « all wrongs reserved .::. Size~: 22.64 KB Aug 30 20:37
justin__ verified Aug 30 20:37
schestowitz Maybe summer break? Aug 30 20:37
schestowitz Steadfast took some break iirc Aug 30 20:37
justin__ http://www.mono-project.com/AnonSVN Aug 30 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr Title: AnonSVN – Mono .::. Size~: 10.11 KB Aug 30 20:37
schestowitz and the Microsoft MVP is having a baby Aug 30 20:38
justin__ are they the only 2 guys working on mono? Aug 30 20:38
gnufreex De Icaza is one. Aug 30 20:38
schestowitz No-No Aug 30 20:38
schestowitz No Aug 30 20:38
schestowitz He’s working on other parts of it, I think Aug 30 20:38
gnufreex schestowitz: I was wrong, Mono uses SVN Aug 30 20:38
schestowitz Joseph Hill or something leads in a neww Aug 30 20:39
gnufreex no git Aug 30 20:39
schestowitz Then there are mono trolls Aug 30 20:39
schestowitz Like Joseph Shields and some anonymous trolls who bully opposition Aug 30 20:39
justin__ do they contribute tho? Aug 30 20:39
justin__ or just trolls? Aug 30 20:39
schestowitz gnufreex: so it’s dying? Aug 30 20:39
schestowitz I can recall something about git and mono Aug 30 20:40
gnufreex schestowitz: I hope Aug 30 20:40
justin__ seems so Aug 30 20:40
schestowitz See Microsoft’s blog (tirania) Aug 30 20:40
gnufreex schestowitz: Mono people wanted to put write Git addons in Mono Aug 30 20:40
gnufreex Git# Aug 30 20:40
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Diaspora Clarifies: Open Source On September 15, Consumer Alpha In October – http://tcrn.ch/baGXEu good news #diaspora #socialnws Aug 30 20:40
gnufreex But nobody liked that Aug 30 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr Title:   Diaspora Clarifies: Open Source On September 15, Consumer Alpha In October  .::. Size~: 40.36 KB Aug 30 20:40
gnufreex They didn’t really use Git, they wanted to kill it. Aug 30 20:40
MinceR well, we already have “git, only slower” Aug 30 20:41
justin__ like they try to kill everything else Aug 30 20:41
MinceR it’s called mercurial Aug 30 20:41
MinceR so there’s no demand for git# Aug 30 20:41
schestowitz justin__: did you check inside dirs to see they don’t code in another space? Aug 30 20:41
FurnaceBoy there’s that guy who wrote git plugins for visual studio Aug 30 20:41
justin__ schestowitz: yea Aug 30 20:41
schestowitz justin__: what URL to show it best? Aug 30 20:42
schestowitz http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/ does not provide compelling proof Aug 30 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr Title: [Mono] Index of /trunk .::. Size~: 54.05 KB Aug 30 20:42
schestowitz I need a quick URL to validate with readers Aug 30 20:42
gnufreex http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/ Aug 30 20:42
justin__ hmm Aug 30 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr Title: [Mono] Index of / .::. Size~: 4.58 KB Aug 30 20:42
schestowitz http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/?sortby=date#dirlist Aug 30 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr Title: [Mono] Index of /trunk .::. Size~: 57.3 KB Aug 30 20:43
justin__ yea, the toplevel is probably good Aug 30 20:43
justin__ or could show http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/mono/ Aug 30 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr Title: [Mono] Index of /trunk/mono .::. Size~: 22.24 KB Aug 30 20:43
gnufreex Microsofties probably don’t contribute anymore because Novell-VMware deal. Aug 30 20:43
gnufreex There goes 60% of work force Aug 30 20:44
justin__ there was a vmware deal? Aug 30 20:44
gnufreex VMware distirbutes SUSE with ESX now Aug 30 20:44
schestowitz Yes Aug 30 20:44
justin__ oh, I missed that Aug 30 20:44
gnufreex Microsoft is but hurted Aug 30 20:44
schestowitz Maybe vmware will buy novl Aug 30 20:44
justin__ maybe all the mono people got fired Aug 30 20:45
justin__ probably not de icaza tho Aug 30 20:45
schestowitz No Aug 30 20:45
gnufreex schestowitz: I hope not. Aug 30 20:45
schestowitz But de Icaza cleans bathrooms at Novell now Aug 30 20:45
gnufreex I would like Red Hat to buy them. And then Army Man to make De Icaza clean toilets. Aug 30 20:46
schestowitz http://abock.org/2010/08/06/real-american-heroes-toilet-trouble Aug 30 20:46
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] NIH Orders Halt To Embryonic Stem Cell Research http://bit.ly/a2JKE9 Aug 30 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Slashdot Science Story | NIH Orders Halt To Embryonic Stem Cell Research .::. Size~: 50.8 KB Aug 30 20:46
gnufreex Hehe. Aug 30 20:48
gnufreex What he does in toilet. It has noting to do with Microsoft… oh wait Aug 30 20:49
gnufreex I just now got why Bill Gates named compney MicroSoft Aug 30 20:49
gnufreex after his weenie Aug 30 20:49
justin__ lol, de icaza got demoted to toilet cleaner Aug 30 20:50
justin__ haha Aug 30 20:50
gnufreex He even look like Microsoftie now. Aug 30 20:52
gnufreex He looked less Micrsofotish before. Aug 30 20:52
-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] How to make a Cosmic Wallpaper in GIMP: Scott Photographics: “This tutorial will hopefully help inspire you to cre… http://bit.ly/bKomuu Aug 30 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Linux Today – How to make a Cosmic Wallpaper in GIMP .::. Size~: 76.63 KB Aug 30 20:52
cubevector Microsoft Toilet Paper Aug 30 20:53
cubevector it could happen Aug 30 20:53
ThistleWeb I wouldnt be surprised if they had staff toilet rolls with logos of like google, or tux on it Aug 30 20:54
ThistleWeb on each sheet Aug 30 20:54
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] In Defense of Links, Part One: Nick Carr, hypertext and delinkification – http://bit.ly/asKV1i debunking of Mr Carr’s crypto-transclusionism Aug 30 20:55
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justin__ mono guys are such losers Aug 30 20:56
justin__ they should have given up long ago Aug 30 20:56
justin__ and not even bothered to try Aug 30 20:56
justin__ hopefully now canonical will give up on mono too Aug 30 20:57
gnufreex justin__: I had no problem with them writting Mono. I am pissed at Mono because MonoDudes don’t know their place. It is only so we can say every language can run on Linux. It is stupid to write software with it. It is stupid to try and make it default language for GNU / Linux Aug 30 20:59
gnufreex ANd they are trying just that. Aug 30 20:59
gnufreex They are doing Mono just despite FSF and to piss people they call “zealots” Aug 30 21:00
gnufreex And to advance Microsoft agenda, of course. Aug 30 21:00
gnufreex Place of Mono is same as place for Wine. Out of default install Aug 30 21:00
gnufreex And Wine is not used to write free software. Aug 30 21:01
justin__ yea, they totally didn’t know their place Aug 30 21:01
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Who would dare to speak of trolls? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/paul-allen-is-no-patent-troll/2360 #swpat Aug 30 21:01
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Hulu: We Know That Hulu Plus Sucks, But It’s Not Our Fault http://dlvr.it/4SkrX Aug 30 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Paul Allen is no patent troll | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 144.61 KB Aug 30 21:01
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justin__ gnufreex imo, monodudes were never very intelligent Aug 30 21:02
justin__ probably got rejected from every other project Aug 30 21:02
gnufreex Well, I think they are inteligent. But they use their brains to help Microsoft. They are not friends of FOSS. Aug 30 21:03
gnufreex They got rejected from other projects because they Microsfotish tendencies, They want to make GNU/Linux a cheap clone of Winodws. Aug 30 21:04
justin__ yea Aug 30 21:04
gnufreex I am not saying all Mono advocates are like that. Just the main ones. And they set other on wrong track. Aug 30 21:04
gnufreex *others Aug 30 21:04
MinceR de icaza wrote at least one good program Aug 30 21:05
MinceR but apparently he’s more interested in serving m$ Aug 30 21:05
justin__ mincer: what? Aug 30 21:05
MinceR gnumeric Aug 30 21:05
gnufreex He wrote Gnumeric? Aug 30 21:05
justin__ I get the feeling he didn’t really even write that Aug 30 21:05
MinceR he wrote the original version, apparently Aug 30 21:05
justin__ probably just took credit for it Aug 30 21:05
gnufreex I think Stallman started writing that. Aug 30 21:05
MinceR dunno Aug 30 21:05
MinceR wikipedia says he’s the original author Aug 30 21:06
gnufreex And then some of Emacs crew finished Aug 30 21:06
justin__ mono trolls are on wikipedia though Aug 30 21:06
justin__ so you can’t trust it Aug 30 21:06
MinceR ic Aug 30 21:06
MinceR old versions of the changelog are gone from gnumeric.org Aug 30 21:07
gnufreex De Icaza didn’t start GNOME either. He only set himself on right place to get credits. If FSF didn’t fund GNOME, it would be nothing. Aug 30 21:07
gnufreex Originaly, GNU project tried twice to write LISP GUI. And both times they were distracted by some fork. First XEmacs, then EGGC. Then GNOME was third attempt when non-free KDE took off. Aug 30 21:09
justin__ yep Aug 30 21:09
justin__ and miguel was just there to steal the credits Aug 30 21:09
gnufreex http://stallman.org/articles/xemacs.origin Aug 30 21:10
MinceR first commits show no trace of de icaza Aug 30 21:10
MinceR http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnumeric/log/?ofs=18150 Aug 30 21:10
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gnufreex Here is what Stallman said on XEmacs Aug 30 21:10
MinceR wait Aug 30 21:10
schestowitz [20:50] <justin__> lol, de icaza got demoted to toilet cleaner Aug 30 21:10
schestowitz Maybe Novell cut more staff Aug 30 21:10
MinceR oh, right Aug 30 21:10
schestowitz Including wardens and cleaners Aug 30 21:11
schestowitz So they assigned a contigent Aug 30 21:11
schestowitz “The guy who deals with all the ***t” Aug 30 21:11
gnufreex rofL Aug 30 21:11
justin__ lol Aug 30 21:11
MinceR like mono? :> Aug 30 21:12
justin__ mono is a 4 letter word Aug 30 21:13
justin__ is jono aka jono bacon? Aug 30 21:14
justin__ just noticed him in the user list Aug 30 21:15
justin__ well, guys it’s been fun but I need to get going Aug 30 21:16
justin__ keep on fighting the good fight getting rid of trolls like de icaza and his friends Aug 30 21:17
justin__ you guys make the world a better place Aug 30 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Christian Church lends building to Muslims while construction of Mosque continues; Jesus clearly approves of this http://u.nu/2h62f Aug 30 21:17
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Cordova Christians put out welcome mat for new mosque » The Commercial Appeal .::. Size~: 176.45 KB Aug 30 21:18
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Demonstrating the Power of KDE: Dolphin Outpaces Konqueror Yet?

Posted in GNU/Linux, KDE, Videos at 4:04 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Summary: Nice demo of the many capabilities gained by Dolphin since its debut in KDE 4.0

Dolphin File Browser Feature – Kubuntu 9.10

Credit: TinyOgg

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