Bonum Certa Men Certa

IBM Red Hat Kills LibreOffice In Fedora and RHEL; Says “No longer has resources to maintain them.”

Reprinted with permission from Ryan Farmer

IBM Red Hat Kills LibreOffice In Fedora and RHEL; Says “No longer has resources to maintain them.”



Well, I hope you didn’t have any documents to edit. I suppose we’re all supposed to use GULAG CRASH and GULAG DOCS now anyway or something, or maybe they’ll be nice enough to ship a desktop link to MICROSHIT OFFICE for the GULAGWEB.



(No, SeaMonkey or other Web Standards-compliant browser users need not apply, obviously.)



I’m also told you can get LibreOffice from “FAT Pack” (FlatPak), the gargantuan and horrible package manager that barfs out “distro-agnostic” packages that are huge and don’t respect any of your system settings.



FAT Pack is also terrific in the fact that it has an alleged sandbox that lets applications access all sorts of things that are enough to damage your system with, but walls them off from parts of the system YOU need them to access during the usual and customary operation of the program.



I’ve been sitting here for years trying to ignore the increasingly awful IBM Red Hat situation, but now it is starting to affect Fedora. Distributions that have 3-4 people maintaining them have native packages for LibreOffice, and now it is the IBM Red Hat position that they need those “developer hours” (how many hours do they spend sending updates to a build bot?) fixing Wayland, which has routinely broken the ABI for little or no reason, as the developers themselves now openly admit to on the mailing lists.



They’re pressuring people to add FlatHub and then when they do it’s like all sorts of horrible things you didn’t want to see in your software center, like Microsoft Edge, the backdoored password stealer.



Flathub is also a security hazard itself, like Snaps are. Snaps already had some malware incidents like bitcoin miners. They don’t care if the software is proprietary. Just dump it in there, and when they can’t review it some poor user always ends up cleaning up the mess.



“My software is proprietary and is thus unreviewable. I have also decided that the sandbox level will be no sandbox at all. Thanks.” Do you want ants? This is how you get ants.



FlatHub only has one advantage over Snap in this department (for now).



You can filter out things that are under a Proprietary license in GNOME Software so you don’t have to see them and will not accidentally install the perfect cover for a Trojan Horse.



Flatpak breaks pretty much the strongest part of Linux security. That the distribution you’re running has reviewed and built everything.



If IBM Red Hat is really going to strong arm people that don’t want to use it, I must return again to Ron Swanson from Parks & Recreation to show what I’m likely going to have to do with Fedora.



When Mr. Swanson receives an “Excellence in Government Award” (as a Libertarian, this horrifies him and he doesn’t want anyone to ever find out), he saws it into pieces, burns it, and buries it in Illinois (a State so corrupt that nobody would ever think to look for the ashes here).



If you think this is extreme, consider that a core and major application has just been deemed “unimportant” by IBM Red Hat, no doubt to give Microsoft a boost with their Office programs (some of which are online, where that’s the DRM, and if you don’t pay them, they stop working, and they can make changes and you can’t hold out on the previous version).



I don’t think I want to stick around for what happens next.



I’m not keen to see where this goes. I hired an attorney who used Outlook and Office 365 and it was just very aggravating and unprofessional. And of course nobody supports large email attachments so I had to put it on my Google Drive and remove DAC so that she could access documents which included very sensitive information.



I don’t know who opens a Web browser to edit documents. Or even to do E-Mail. It’s just flat out retarded.



Like literally the best thing about a Chromebook is you can install Debian and put real programs for editing documents and managing your email in there. I may be the only person on Earth who has one and never opens Chrome. It’s a shame to see Fedora going in the other direction.



The article literally says that not having an office program will improve the desktop experience. That’s funny. Basically every Linux article I’ve read pitching it to people is it has a full Microsoft-compatible office program that doesn’t have some garbage activation server. You can’t blame the person who wrote it because they’re just quoting what some idiot GNOME (an IBM thrall) developer and also a Red Hat employee told them to say.



IBM Red Hat is just being cheap and pulling out from investment in Free Software.



In some cases, they join infamous shit-spreaders (such as the person trolling our TechRights IRC server) to cover themselves, like laying out false allegations against Richard M. Stallman, to justify it as a “moral imperative” to defund the Free Software Foundation.



(Jeff Epstein was actually closely affiliated with Bill Gates, who rode the LOLITA Express and visited Epstein in prison. Surely, IBM Red Hat will cancel their business deals with Microsoft? No?)



One does have to wonder if this time there was no way to possibly accuse anyone working on LibreOffice of rape or “transphobia” so they just said it would be better if the user had a computer that couldn’t do anything, and it improved the desktop experience.



Yeah, I need to stop being lazy and back up my files properly and move this over to someone that can do a little better than “We’re stripping it down to a Web browser to improve the experience.”



“Any community member is of course free to take over maintenance, both for the RPMS in Fedora and the Fedora LibreOffice Flatpak, but be aware that this is a sizable block of packages and dependencies and a significant amount of work to keep up with.”



Yeah, what, all three members of the Fedora “community” that haven’t been Kofler‘d?



Obviously, I’ve been “quieted” on Fedora IRC because I know full well how bad Flatpak sucks.



The only thing I’ve seen Flatpak’s alleged sandbox actually do is break themes and make it so my video downloader in Firefox does not work. So obviously Flatpak Firefox lasted oh about three seconds.



Thank God LibreWolf finally did an RPM.



It also tends to wall things off from the graphics card so that you get slow terrible screen drawing.



It turns out that walling desktop applications off from the system is stupid and pointless and breaks them in ways where the user doesn’t even want the application anymore.



The more usable Flatpak applications pretty much just opt out of the sandbox entirely because the person packaging them knows that this is the only way they actually run at all. Then you’re back to “RPM” where the thing can access pretty much whatever it wants (within the confines of what the system itself manages to enforce).



Only it’s a “really terrible RPM with full access, packaged with a lot of bloated rotting platforms that don’t get CVE fixes”. “Where’s the robot to pat you on the back, or the engineer? Or the children, perhaps? Now you see how all your so called power counts for absolutely nothing. How your entire empire of destruction comes crashing down over one….little…cherry.”

-Me on Fedora-Social


That’s when Khaytsus (Real name, Walter Francis) +q’d me and “won the argument” like Bill O’Reilly (O’RLY) did on Fox News.



Shut up! Shut up! Kill his mic!

-Bill O’RLY


Honestly, Khaytsus could have left it at this, but then had to also imply I am crazy.



That’s one way the Soviets dealt with dissent. Matthew J. Garrett‘s sockpuppets have accused me of being a “schizophrenic”. It’s in the #techrights logs.



The Soviets had this thing they’d do to discredit people. They had a diagnosis called “Sluggish Schizophrenia”, and the whole thing was made up. And when someone stepped out of line, they were accused of being one, and then the “mental health” laws took them away and you never saw that person again. They were off working on a highway and when they died they’d be buried underneath it.



The diagnosis has long been discredited because of its scientific inadequacy and its use as a means of confining dissenters.[6] It has never been used or recognized outside of the Soviet Union,[7] or by international organizations such as the World Health Organization.[8] It is considered a prime example of the political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union.[9]

-Wikipedia


Unfortunately, abuse of psychiatry and accusations of “mental illness” were never limited to the despotic hellholes that you’d expect them to be in.



Evil gaslighting fucks use this all the time.



Wow man, lay off the meth. Seek help.. Serious real medical help. Seriously. You need help. Something has slid off your cracker.

-Khaytsus, (Real name, Walter Francis), in response to me not liking Flatpak and saying it the way I quoted myself.


I wonder when malicious shit-spreaders became like, most of the mods in the Fedora “Community”.



And then I was silenced, like many people that have criticized a Red Hat decision in public.



“They’re crazy. You hear me? You’re all fucking crazy! Hey, is it me or is it getting awfully quiet lately in the Fedora community?” -Fedora chatroom mods.



One of them, just last night, remarked on how quiet the rooms get. You see what people have to deal with for critiquing a technical decision politely. You tell me who’s crazy.….. Nuts. Insane. Bonzo. No longer in control of one’s faculties. Three fries short of a happy meal. WACKO!



Of course probably nobody will step up to maintain LibreOffice because IBM has ran off and banned the community that would have done that. They didn’t “see the value” in having a community and it’s gone now.

Recent Techrights' Posts

linuxsecurity.com is 100% Slopfarm, Nonstop Fake 'Articles' About Security and "Linux"
More than one fake 'author' participates in this, so it deserves condemnation
Social Control Media as a Rapid Race to the Bottom - Part III - Foreign Interference and Chaff/Flare
Why would you trust alleged 'communication' (platforms) controlled by the same people who cut your undersea cables?
[Video] Richard Stallman Explains What Intelligence in Computing Really Means and How Old That Is (Story About 1975, 50 Years Ago)
Uploaded 11 hours ago by Manuel Cuda News
Links 05/03/2025: Prioritising Science, Patents Squashed
Links for the day
 
Reputation is Not a Human Right, It's Something One Earns
One can also lose one's reputation for harming women
FreeBSD Foundation is Trying to Improve "Laptop Support", But It Has Outsourced Everything to Microsoft Proprietary Software
Despite many valid alternatives existing and fast maturing
Links 06/03/2025: Discord Wants the Public to Pay for Losses, MongoDB Shares Collapse
Links for the day
Gemini Links 06/03/2025: Remaking Sites, Gemini Capsule Turns 5
Links for the day
Links 06/03/2025: Trade Wars, Trademarks, Attacks on (and by) the Media, Digg to Relaunch
Links for the day
The Fall of the Open Source Initiative (OSI): The Problems Are Much Bigger Than the Rigged Elections
It's not only about elections
Dr. Andy Farnell on Brutality and (or of) Brute-Force Computing
"Understandably, the ecological cost of compute was never really on the minds of pure computer scientists"
IBM Absorbs More of Red Hat and There Are Several Layoff Rumours
Those are just rumours for now
Gemini Links 06/03/2025: Digg, Project Failure, and More
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 05, 2025
IRC logs for Wednesday, March 05, 2025
Gemini Links 05/03/2025: News Processing, Misbehaving, and Git
Links for the day
GNU/Linux Cracking Past the 4% Barrier in Hungary
There are still quite a few very famous developers and Free software projects from Hungary
Meanwhile in the Matrix Room #dei:fedoraproject.org
Remember that IBM does a lot of perception manipulation
Rumour About Red Hat Layoffs Yesterday
Can somebody from Red Hat or someone who knows someone there (impacted or not) confirm that there are layoffs this week at Red Hat?
New Short Clip of Richard Stallman's Thoughts on the "Hey Hi" (AI) Hype, Courtesy of Manuel Cuda News
about 6 hrs ago
What is fixated behavior? Stalker or just a fan of Emma Raducanu?
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
In Iran, GNU/Linux Reaches New Highs, According to statCounter
Does that make sense? In light of geopolitics? Probably.
Always Safety First
We have some reasons to suspect that one of several parties (possibly not in the UK but having connections here), having suffered major and very expensive setbacks, may look to harm the messenger one way or another
Links 05/03/2025: Starbucks Debt Soars and CFO Changed, Apple Pretends to Value Privacy, "Cloudflare Blocking Privacy Focused Users From Accessing Third-Party Websites"
Links for the day
Canonical's Latest Love Letter to Microsoft (Ubuntu Promoting Proprietary Spyware With Back Doors)
Typical Canonical, promoting Microsoft (and sometimes Windows) instead of competing against them
What Microsoft and GitHub Really, Really, REALLY Do Not Want You to See or Know About
They're trying to misuse law in a completely different continent or to allege that reporting important facts is in breach of privacy law
Slopwatch: linuxsecurity.com and Other 'Linux' Sites With LLM Slop
SEO spam with machine-generated fodder, plus a person to whom English isn't a first language
GNU/Linux Climbs to Record Levels in Switzerland. Can the EU, Norway, the UK, and Switzerland Divorce GAFAM?
Germany openly speaks about becoming independent from the US. How about Switzerland?
Gemini Links 05/03/2025: Living in Interesting Times, Font, and Social Control Media with Gos v1.0.0
Links for the day
Just Because Common Currencies (Including the US Dollar) Are Considered Uncertain Doesn't Mean People Should Adopt Volatile Multi-Level (Pyramid) Schemes
the scammers are trying to "go mainstream"
Use RSS Readers Instead of Social Control Media
RSS readers were designed to save time. Social Control Media was designed to waste time.
The 'Windows Era' Already Came to an End
Microsoft said to shareholders everything would be alright because of "clown computing" and then "hey hi"
The Fall of the Open Source Initiative (OSI): Microsoft Committing the Largest GPL Violation in Human History, Then OSI Covering That Up on Microsoft's Payroll
LLMs don't make GPL violations any more noble or acceptable; it's not hard to see what OSI was paid by Microsoft for
Social Control Media as a Rapid Race to the Bottom - Part II - Think Before You Talk
The 'socmed' nonsense does not exist in our home
Links 04/03/2025: Hardware, Health, Data Breaches, Politics
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 04, 2025
IRC logs for Tuesday, March 04, 2025
Luxembourg: GNU/Linux at 8% Based on Estimates
steady increases this year
Gemini Links 04/03/2025: Bicycle, Photos, and Motorola 6809 Assemblers
Links for the day
Crossbow tragedy, bigger than Kyle Clifford, social media culture
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Microsoft OSI Apparently Still Reading Techrights Closely, Trying to Make Face-Saving PR Moves
They have long had this reactionary rhythm, wherein it feels like we can 'control' what they publish and when by merely highlighting facts about them
Links 04/03/2025: Microsoft/Korea Game Industry Association Workforce Cuts, Outlook and 365 Outage Affects Very Many
Links for the day
Transcript of Richard Stallman's Interview With Manuel Cuda News in Italy (Debunking Fake "AI")
A rough draft, but checked by two people
Chad: All-Time Lows for Windows, According to statCounter
According to statCounter, many in Chad moved to Android
Links 04/03/2025: Universities Are Under Attack, Windows Attracts Ransom Against Ministry of Health
Links for the day
Microsoft Collapses While GNU/Linux Rises in Bulgaria, According to statCounter
Microsoft is losing across all sectors
The Fall of the Open Source Initiative (OSI): An Introduction
In a nutshell: there's a massive conflict inside the OSI and the OSI stooges (staff serving Big Sponsors like Microsoft) try to hide it
Paraguay: GNU/Linux Surging to New Usage Levels (7%), According to statCounter
Notice that the gains are at Microsoft Windows' expense
Social Control Media as a Rapid Race to the Bottom - Part I - That Sinking Feeling
When you realise you made an error and things you adopted more than 15 years ago became utterly bad
Microsoft's Entryism as Mortal Risk/Danger: The Example of the Open Source Initiative (OSI)
Microsoft is a cult
Links 04/03/2025: Microsoft Issues Policy Instructions to the Cheeto Mussolini Administration, Cloudflare Engages in Mass Censorship Again
Links for the day
Gemini Links 04/03/2025: Athens, Fedora 41, and Yelling at Clouds
Links for the day
FSF Amicus Brief: Aspose.PDF for .NET 24.2.0, OOXML (.docx), and Microsoft Word (Proprietary)
Could the FSF not find any law firm that, in addition to talking about or for Free software, does not use .NET, OOXML, and almost everything Microsoft?
New Interview With Richard Stallman in Italy (Manuel Cuda News)
Due to Google's growing aggression against Free software and proper APIs, this cannot be downloaded and converted to a free format
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Belatedly Comments on Case That Tests Copyleft in the United States
"The Free Software Foundation (FSF) announced today it has submitted an amicus brief in the case entitled Neo4j"
If They Try to Censor You on Some Topic, Then You Should Cover This Topic Even More
OSI is only a small part of it
The UEFI hype and Microsoft's lies
By Sami Tikkanen
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 03, 2025
IRC logs for Monday, March 03, 2025
Thorsten Glaser & Open Source Initiative (OSI) resignations due to AI whitewashing
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock