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DaemonFCIt's not exactly reasonable to remain compatible with old buggy compilers that need special workarounds, which nobody is even testing, and are unsupported upstream.May 01 00:01
DaemonFCHaiku 64-bit has no compatibility with legacy BeOS.May 01 00:02
DaemonFCThe 32-bit version is tricky to build. For compatibility with BeOS, it has to be compiled with a version of GCC that's about 20 years old.May 01 00:02
DaemonFCIt is hard to imagine what legacy BeOS software anyone would want to run since it was never a very popular system.May 01 00:03
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mateyschestowitz-TR  │ for low-income homes  │ they give 150 this month to help with rising energy costs  │ we got 150 pounds a few days agoMay 01 00:16
matey/me tries to understand how hes going to retire in early/mid 40s while being low-income, but okMay 01 00:16
matey/me refers to claims of retiring soon made a year or two agoMay 01 00:17
mateyi dont suppose its impossible per seMay 01 00:17
activelowDaemonFC: would you consider C++, what's typically written with it, or any of it's compilers stable and reliable?May 01 00:25
*psydruid plans to simply expireMay 01 00:29
psydruidI never understood compatibility with ancient closed source software for BeOSMay 01 00:34
mateyits a goal from another eraMay 01 00:34
mateycompatibility as a feature was a big deal in the 80sMay 01 00:35
mateyit still matters, but back then it was like "and this car has WINGS, too"May 01 00:35
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matey"you mean it works with everything i already own, too?"May 01 00:36
matey"YES!"May 01 00:36
mateyi was extremely impressed when os/2 warp ran windows 3.x applicationsMay 01 00:36
mateyit seemed like a magic trickMay 01 00:37
psydruid"I want the KFC Car and Game Console, because they have wings!"May 01 00:37
mateyof course i was pretty naive about it. wikipedia wouldnt exist for what, another ecade or soMay 01 00:37
mateyi was also impressed to find a kfc in the uk :)May 01 00:38
mateyimpressed and somewhat shockedMay 01 00:38
psydruidI understand why they did it, but at some point it keeps you from moving forwardMay 01 00:38
mateyand naturally, the kfc in britain has better chips than the american ones doMay 01 00:38
psydruidand then it's time to let goMay 01 00:38
mateyi dont think compatibility is such a bad thingMay 01 00:38
psydruidoh, I didn't knowMay 01 00:39
mateyi mean sometimes its a dragMay 01 00:39
mateyand other times its greatMay 01 00:39
mateyi dont know if theres a hard rule hereMay 01 00:39
mateyi think it depends on what is meant by compatibility tooMay 01 00:40
mateybecause systemd isnt being held back by compatibility, its simply destroying everything it touchesMay 01 00:40
psydruidnowadays you mainly want to be compatible with what goes for "free software" despite all the negatives associated with the (by itself positive) termMay 01 00:41
mateyif your goal is to emulate the nes for exampleMay 01 00:41
mateythats a worthwhile goal imoMay 01 00:41
mateyeven though i dont personally give a shit about the nesMay 01 00:42
psydruidsure, because you want to play those gamesMay 01 00:42
mateythe broader goal of May 01 00:42
mateynoMay 01 00:42
psydruidor someone doesMay 01 00:42
mateybecause id like there to be museums where people can play those gamesMay 01 00:42
mateyor justMay 01 00:42
mateyyou knowMay 01 00:42
mateyliving computer historyMay 01 00:42
mateybeing able to install some compatibility layer, and try something from 50 years agoMay 01 00:43
mateythen again i think people should USUALLY avoid installing wineMay 01 00:43
psydruidI could see that being important to some peopleMay 01 00:43
mateybut why beos wants it so much as a builtinMay 01 00:43
mateythat i dont knowMay 01 00:43
mateyjust to say we can do it tooMay 01 00:44
mateyor someone gave them money dogeared for that to be implementedMay 01 00:44
mateyor maybeMay 01 00:44
mateybeos serves no other real purpose unless it can do that...May 01 00:44
mateylike if wine cant run windows programs...May 01 00:45
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mateythen whats it for?May 01 00:45
psydruidnothingMay 01 00:45
mateythe other thing isMay 01 00:45
mateybusinesses that can stick with a custom solution for a LONG LONG timeMay 01 00:45
mateyi mean like cobol in banksMay 01 00:46
mateycobol!May 01 00:46
mateythere was a time, in the past 17 years, where you could make SOME money if you were very proficient at quickbasicMay 01 00:46
mateybecause people still had point of sale machines based on itMay 01 00:46
mateyso to maintain them they needed someone who could code in qbMay 01 00:46
mateyor they had to buy all new machinesMay 01 00:47
mateyf course these are edge usesMay 01 00:48
mateymost people just get new stuffMay 01 00:49
psydruidI ran haiku on a low-end laptop for a year but it was a bit buggy and an update broke hardware support, so I got rid of itMay 01 00:49
mateybut theyve got places that make taffy for exampleMay 01 00:49
mateythe machines are more than 100 years oldMay 01 00:49
mateyand if they break down, they have someone come in and repair themMay 01 00:50
mateyit was a bit buggy and an update broke hardware support, so I got rid of it <- yeah i mean, i have no use for it. i think its even github-basedMay 01 00:50
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psydruidI just wanted to see what it was like and what it did differently from gnu/linuxMay 01 00:51
mateyit has a certain charm but thats about itMay 01 00:51
mateyfarther along than reactos but at least as nicheMay 01 00:52
psydruidthe only thing haiku and reactos can teach us is how to be nimble with resources, because that seems like a lost artMay 01 00:53
mateyi dont think reactos can even do thatMay 01 00:54
mateyi mean start with a 20 year old systemMay 01 00:54
mateythen implement half of itMay 01 00:54
mateyof course its going to be light on resourcesMay 01 00:54
mateybut that doesnt mean ntkerne was light on resources at the timeMay 01 00:55
mateynt was a beastMay 01 00:55
mateyi mean we could get a 20 year old version of debianMay 01 00:55
mateyit started in 1995...May 01 00:55
mateyimplement half of it :)May 01 00:55
mateybut i mean, baphos already does that, soMay 01 00:56
mateyet voilaMay 01 00:56
mateyand even if theres a hint of sarcasm here, i dont think its the stupidest idea in the world to do thisMay 01 00:56
mateybut it has tradeoffs, big onesMay 01 00:57
mateyso do ros and haikiMay 01 00:57
mateyhaikuMay 01 00:57
mateyim not sure theyre doing anything special in this regard though. maybe they areMay 01 00:57
psydruidI guess terminalos will outdo them allMay 01 00:57
mateyyeah i meanMay 01 00:57
mateytheo doesnt even use x :)May 01 00:57
mateymy guess is he watches netflix on a roku or something May 01 00:58
mateyor bought some blu-ray player with the same capabilityMay 01 00:58
psydruidit will take us to the moon and poof, the os is goneMay 01 00:58
mateyhe cant be stupid enough to own a smart tv :/May 01 00:58
psydruidbecause it was devices as a terminal osMay 01 00:58
mateyit will take us to the moon <- i mean if you want reliability, just thread rope cores like the moon lander did :)May 01 00:59
mateylibre hardware!May 01 00:59
mateythey didnt have to "source" any intel chips or z80 because they didnt have tech like that in 1969May 01 01:00
psydruidI used a smart tv as an external monitor for some time, but it was never connected to the internetMay 01 01:00
mateyi dont want to give money to the people selling themMay 01 01:00
psydruidI noticed it was looking for a connection to the mother ship at nightMay 01 01:00
mateyof course ill be a tv WITHOUT a mic and camera from the same people, so im not entirely sure what point im makingMay 01 01:00
psydruidI didn't buy it, but I used it for that timeMay 01 01:01
mateythough im willing to stick with it until i get a better ideaMay 01 01:01
mateythe other thing isMay 01 01:01
mateywifiMay 01 01:01
psydruidI've only ever bought computer monitorsMay 01 01:01
mateyyeahMay 01 01:01
mateyi mean if it wont play on a computer monitorMay 01 01:01
mateyi probably dont need to play itMay 01 01:01
mateyand with monitors that do hdmi now...May 01 01:02
mateyi mean this one does hsmiMay 01 01:03
mateyhdmiMay 01 01:03
psydruidthere is a bug/feature with widevine drm in combination with browsersMay 01 01:03
mateyi havent tried using it as a tv because i dont own any tuners or blu-ray stuffMay 01 01:03
mateyactually i think i might have a blu-ray for a pc, ive never used itMay 01 01:03
psydruidif you go full screen the screen becomes blackMay 01 01:03
matey there is a bug/feature with widevine drm <- i wont buy dvds (so far at least) that include widevine as an optionMay 01 01:04
psydruidunless you haven't maximized the window firstMay 01 01:04
mateynot because of any other reason thanMay 01 01:04
mateyi dont want to give money to the company offering itMay 01 01:04
mateyi used to get dvds at the library May 01 01:04
mateyand a wife tooMay 01 01:04
mateymet her at the libraryMay 01 01:05
psydruidso that's how DRM messes things up for regular users who have no clue what is going on until it's too lateMay 01 01:05
mateyi was surprised when i was able to download from peertubeMay 01 01:06
mateyi wasnt expecting thatMay 01 01:06
mateyi mean i didnt watch in the browserMay 01 01:06
activelowmatey> they didnt have to "source" any intel chips or z80 because they didnt have tech like that in 1969May 01 01:07
activelowearlier "CPU" were build from TTL7400 chips, similar to Gigatron TTLMay 01 01:07
mateyyeahMay 01 01:07
mateylike the original dec machinesMay 01 01:07
mateywhich were built from discrete transistorsMay 01 01:07
activelownonetheless, were similar in design and capabilites of later Z80/i8086 who bundles this into a CPU packageMay 01 01:07
mateysureMay 01 01:08
activelowsomehow, "CPU" is a misnomer, because, it contains distinct partsMay 01 01:08
mateyand with people like sam zeloof working on homemade icsMay 01 01:08
mateyit should get a lot more interestingMay 01 01:09
mateyi mean he makes his own transistors!May 01 01:09
mateyin a chip!May 01 01:09
mateyits crazyMay 01 01:09
techrights-newsIn this series which explores the relationship between the EPO and the Belarus High Technologies Park we now take a look at this so-called “Seoul in the centre of Pyongyang” http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/high-technologies-park-politics/May 01 01:09
mateyin his garage!May 01 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | From Belarus With Love — Part VIII: “Seoul in the Centre of Pyongyang” | TechrightsMay 01 01:09
techrights-newsLuka (Lukashenko) is battling his own people, who unlike himself are better informed; much like António Campinos, the EPO President who hardly understands patents http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/meme-clash-of-heads/May 01 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Clash of Heads | TechrightsMay 01 01:10
techrights-newsLike his friend Benoît Battistelli, António Campinos glorifies illegal and unconstitutional activity right there in the front page of the EPO‘s Web site; it’s not the union that embarrasses the Office but the management, which is basically corrupt and does illegal things in broad daylight http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/upc-illegal/May 01 01:10
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activelowhe cannot produce RAM/ROM or sufficient amount of it, last time i read about itMay 01 01:10
mateyimagine going to thingiverse or somethingMay 01 01:10
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mateyand just downloading a chip that contains i dunnoMay 01 01:10
techrights-newsEven though we barely write about Gemini anymore the universe or cyberspace of Gemini Protocol continues to expand while Gemini capsules talk about all sorts of topics other than Gemini itself http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/gemini-1900/May 01 01:10
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mateyhe cannot produce RAM/ROM or sufficient amount of it, last time i read about it <- i mean, thats no big dealMay 01 01:11
mateyhe can make a cpuMay 01 01:11
techrights-newsThe dictator of EPOnia, António Campinos, has lost grasp of reality and he’s spinning Russia’s war against Ukraine to portray himself — along with the cronies he brought in-house (to help the cover-up) — as guardians of peace http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/shame-of-bavaria/May 01 01:11
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activelowthe early systems had the same problem, amount of RAM/ROM, the BASIC paper tape, from Micro-Soft, was 4KiB or 8KiB total... impressiveMay 01 01:11
mateyi mean you can buy ramMay 01 01:11
mateyuntil someone figures out how to make that tooMay 01 01:11
mateyand i suppose clock speeds and refresh rates are a thingMay 01 01:12
mateybut there are so many cool workarounds thereMay 01 01:12
mateywhich (no matter what rms says about retrocomputing)May 01 01:12
activelowdon't know how much RAM zeloof got, to load the Tiny BASIC paper tape... as an idea and cornerstone of such a projectMay 01 01:12
mateythose workarounds could assist making new ram work with the newest (slower) homemade chips, maybeMay 01 01:13
mateyi think a lot of people want paper tape as a SECONDARY option, not the primary designMay 01 01:13
mateypaper tape is a pain to work withMay 01 01:13
mateyand its fucking SLOWMay 01 01:14
activelowi think earlier computers used SRAM, not DRAM... and if zeloof can implement transistor logic for a 4004 CPU, he can too to have SRAM, however tiny the amountMay 01 01:14
activelowSRAM was very expensive, still isMay 01 01:14
mateythey made sram in lower quantities im sureMay 01 01:14
mateyif they made it in similar quantities as dram maybe it would be cheaper-- this isnt my area of courseMay 01 01:14
activelowi think paper tape is still relevant... long term storageMay 01 01:14
mateyrelevant? yes. practical? ...May 01 01:15
matey...May 01 01:15
mateyi mean, as for how practical it isMay 01 01:15
schestowitz-TR[00:17] <matey> /me refers to claims of retiring soon made a year or two agoMay 01 01:15
activelowmatey: for decades computers used punched paper tapesMay 01 01:15
mateyloading baph os on paper tape would take how many hours?May 01 01:15
schestowitz-TRthey judge by worth of house you live inMay 01 01:15
schestowitz-TRwe are in lowest bandMay 01 01:15
mateythey judge by worth of house you live in <- wow, like counting the windowsMay 01 01:15
mateybut makes senseMay 01 01:15
mateyfor decades computers used punched paper tapes <- and loading things from paper tape is INCREDIBLY slowMay 01 01:15
activelowdon't think so, IBM too constructed paper tape readers, and those were fast enoughMay 01 01:16
mateylike even in the 1950s, before a computer even spent time on your program-- they had ANOTHER MACHINE load all the punchcards onto magnetic tapes before the computer would even touch themMay 01 01:16
activelowduring US elections those were still used, until a few years agoMay 01 01:16
activelowand, i might add, it's sad this technology isn't maintained anymoreMay 01 01:16
mateyotherwise, the punchcards were so slow they would run the budget of the computer through the roofMay 01 01:17
mateyand in a week, maybe 1/10 of much computing would get doneMay 01 01:17
mateypaper is SLOWMay 01 01:17
mateyits so slow it should have its own word May 01 01:18
techrights-newskernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree ⚓ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=259b897e5a7958e06d1ac30ddd28dc8419e8f328 ䷉ Source: gitMay 01 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source treeMay 01 01:18
mateylike i said, you load baph os from paper tape, itll take all day to bootMay 01 01:18
mateyeven if the computer can load it in 30 secondsMay 01 01:18
mateythats a hell of a bottleneckMay 01 01:18
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matey don't think so, IBM too constructed paper tape readers, and those were fast enough <- i mean i can show you the footage. its archivedMay 01 01:19
mateythis is why they invented timesharing May 01 01:19
activelowmatey: how much time was required with the Altair 8800 to read the 4K/8K BASIC paper tape into SRAM?May 01 01:20
mateyall the paper -> magtape business was too slowMay 01 01:20
activelowi bet it wasn't much slower than a modern system with systemd bootingMay 01 01:20
mateythe key being 4k/8kMay 01 01:20
techrights-newsCommon mistakes in BIMI early-adopter implementations ⚓ https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/bimi-adoption.html ䷉ Source: Daniel AleksandersenMay 01 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Common mistakes in BIMI early-adopter implementationsMay 01 01:20
mateyhow many "k" is baphosMay 01 01:20
activelowroughly the size of a CDROM; yet that's not the question, because Baphos isn't tailored for an Altair 8800May 01 01:21
techrights-news196: Pop!_OS 22.04, GNOME, Ubuntu Gaming, LineageOS 19, Twitter Acquired and more Linux news! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-196/May 01 01:21
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mateybut that is my pointMay 01 01:21
mateyif paper tape is so practical...May 01 01:21
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activelowand it isn't relevant in the context the use case of punched cards and paper tapesMay 01 01:22
mateyyoure stuck with programs like 4k/8k altair basic, because otherwise youre going to spend hours booting upMay 01 01:22
mateyif youre happy with altair basic as an os, you can do it all on paper tapeMay 01 01:22
activelowsame with 9pin matrix printers, which i kept maintaining, those aren't slow if used as these were intended to (which asn't high resolution graphics)May 01 01:22
mateyi had a 9pin matrix printerMay 01 01:23
mateyso i know what it was capable ofMay 01 01:23
mateyi also had a very low end laser printer, which was a lot faster than the 9pin butMay 01 01:23
mateyslower than nearly anything i can find todayMay 01 01:23
activelowi said the altair 8800 and punched paper tape is still relevant, not only for projects such as the i4004 which zeloof buildsMay 01 01:24
mateyand just to access it from the network i had to put it on a pentium iii :)May 01 01:24
mateyi dont think the altair is the sort of thing zeloof intends to build up toMay 01 01:24
mateyright now the number of transistors hes putting on his chips is growing faster than moores lawMay 01 01:25
mateyits catchup, so its not like he can keep performing like thatMay 01 01:25
activelowthe altair was equipped with in i8080 already, the successor of the i4004May 01 01:25
mateyi think maybe youre missing the point hereMay 01 01:25
mateyor making a false assumptionMay 01 01:25
mateyi dont think zeloof is trying to bring back 8 bit computingMay 01 01:26
mateypeople already do thatMay 01 01:26
mateyi dont think thats what leah is excited about eitherMay 01 01:26
mateyive got nothing against 8 bit computer as an optionMay 01 01:27
techrights-newsICBM itself is a fraud, and it got caught many times https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/05/ibm_z16/May 01 01:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IBM shares details on new z16 mainframe • The RegisterMay 01 01:27
matey8 bits very coolMay 01 01:27
mateybut this isnt just about retro computing, its about d-i-y computing, beyond 80s limitations May 01 01:27
mateythats the goalMay 01 01:27
activelowthe i4004 had a 4Bit ALU, the i8080 too iirc, with 8bit databus, and 16bit address spaceMay 01 01:27
activelowso it isn't entirely clear, what you mean with 8bit computingMay 01 01:28
mateyits really simple. im talking about goals that are more modern than anythign in that entire eraMay 01 01:28
mateyyou insist on getting down to atomic details, okayMay 01 01:28
activelowand the punched paper tapes are cool too, because those can be constructed relatively easy, in comparison to any ROM chipMay 01 01:28
mateybut thats why youre missing the point. it isnt about WHICH of those it isMay 01 01:28
mateyit isnt about ANY of thoseMay 01 01:28
psydruidI think he is researching independent manufacture of free hardware in a home setting and I hope he will continue developing processes for being able to do thatMay 01 01:28
mateyyes, punched paper tapes ARE super coolMay 01 01:28
mateybut not practical for most of our goalsMay 01 01:29
mateywhich require more speedMay 01 01:29
mateyand i think you overestimate the bandwidth paper tape is capable ofMay 01 01:29
activelowan 8K punched tape suffices for some "BIOS" type system, with a tiny shell and basic interpreterMay 01 01:29
mateyon an 8bit machine.May 01 01:30
mateyyesMay 01 01:30
mateywe are going in circles now, maybe its time to respool the tape.May 01 01:30
techrights-newsIt's a Windows issue, so Microsoft blames "CHINA!" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/microsoft-tarrask-malware-in-windows/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/May 01 01:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft details malware that hides its scheduled tasks • The RegisterMay 01 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsMay 01 01:31
*psydruid just wants to be able to produce a modern 32-bit or 64-bit chip using a sane instruction setMay 01 01:32
mateyhow cool would that beMay 01 01:33
activelow^ sparc leon from AirbusMay 01 01:34
activelowthis chip too went to the ISSMay 01 01:34
techrights-news"The camera has not been integrated with Windows at all" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/15/huawei_matebook_x_pro_review/May 01 01:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Huawei’s Matebook X Pro laptop is forgetful and forgettable • The RegisterMay 01 01:34
mateyyeah, but so did debianMay 01 01:34
techrights-news"Musk is no stranger to using Twitter as part of his fiscal engineering, and the Feds are no strangers to slapping him down as a result." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/twitter_faces_existential_threat_from/May 01 01:35
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/twitter_faces_existential_threat_from/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/twitter_faces_existential_threat_from/May 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Twitter faces existential threat from Elon Musk's takeover • The RegisterMay 01 01:35
techrights-newsGood for the planet, bad for spy agencies https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/smartphone_shipments_q1_2022/May 01 01:35
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/smartphone_shipments_q1_2022/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/smartphone_shipments_q1_2022/May 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Smartphone shipments down again for Q1 2022 • The RegisterMay 01 01:36
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/in_brief_security/May 01 01:38
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/in_brief_security/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/in_brief_security/May 01 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | FBI says BlackCat Rust-based ransomware scratched 60+ orgs • The RegisterMay 01 01:38
psydruidMicrosoft Braindead OS with the best ROI on braindeadism in the industryMay 01 01:41
techrights-newsIndia reveals RISC-V CPU roadmap, expects product by 2023 - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/india_risc_v_microprocessor_program/ ䷉ Source: theregisterMay 01 01:42
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/india_risc_v_microprocessor_program/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/india_risc_v_microprocessor_program/May 01 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | India reveals RISC-V CPU roadmap, expects product by 2023 • The RegisterMay 01 01:42
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO again https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/bumblee-malware-conti-malware/May 01 01:42
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/bumblee-malware-conti-malware/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/bumblee-malware-conti-malware/May 01 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Bumblebee malware loader emerges • The RegisterMay 01 01:42
activelowgnMay 01 01:45
schestowitz-TR0/May 01 01:48
cameron1👋 hello schestowitz-TRMay 01 01:48
schestowitz-TRhi cameron1May 01 01:48
cameron1🤦 Yes? schestowitz-TRMay 01 01:48
psydruidBumblebee <3 OptimusMay 01 01:49
schestowitz-TRBumblebee, IIRC, was the one with the machine gunMay 01 01:49
psydruidyesMay 01 01:50
techrights-newsPaul Wise: FLOSS Activities April 2022 http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2022/05/01/floss-activities/May 01 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bonedaddy.net | FLOSS Activities April 2022May 01 01:53
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AdmFubarhttps://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxqMay 01 01:57
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: repair.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxq https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxqMay 01 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.repair.org | Apple's Big Fat Nothing Burger — The Repair AssociationMay 01 01:57
MinceRis a nothingburger like a cheeseburger, except with nothing in place of the cheese?May 01 01:58
schestowitz-TRnothing tastes like cheeseMay 01 01:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▆▇▇▅▄▅▆▇▄▆▆▇▆▅▆▃▇▅▅▄▆▇▅▆▇▁▂▂▆▄▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 28.21 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▁▁▃▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂█▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 39.80▕ swarm size (avg): 535.20  ⟲May 01 01:59
MinceR:)May 01 01:59
*MinceR eats a bit of nothingMay 01 01:59
techrights-newsApple makes life harder, not earlier https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/invisible-files-and-apples-finder-tar-rsync-and-gnu-tar.2342670/May 01 01:59
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: macrumors.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/invisible-files-and-apples-finder-tar-rsync-and-gnu-tar.2342670/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/invisible-files-and-apples-finder-tar-rsync-and-gnu-tar.2342670/May 01 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | Invisible files and Apple's Finder, tar, rsync, and GNU tar | MacRumors ForumsMay 01 01:59
techrights-newsSeaWorld is abusing animals. It now exploits this "Penguin World Day" (never a corporate stunt, right?) for PR BS https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/SEAWORLD-ENTERTAINMENT-I-13027344/news/SeaWorld-Entertainment-Celebrating-World-Penguin-Day-with-Eight-Species-of-Penguin-40144920/May 01 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SeaWorld Entertainment : Celebrating World Penguin Day with Eight Species of Penguin | MarketScreenerMay 01 02:01
techrights-news"Netatalk is an AFP (short for Apple Filing Protocol) open-source implementation that allows systems running *NIX/*BSD to act as AppleShare file servers (AFP) for macOS clients (i.e., to access files stored on Synology NAS devices)." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/synology-warns-of-critical-netatalk-bugs-in-multiple-products/May 01 02:02
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: bleepingcomputer.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/synology-warns-of-critical-netatalk-bugs-in-multiple-products/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/synology-warns-of-critical-netatalk-bugs-in-multiple-products/May 01 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Synology warns of critical Netatalk bugs in multiple productsMay 01 02:02
techrights-newsFauci: pandemic over. Saner people: No, it ain't. https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/news/2022/04/27/bremerton-high-school-returning-remote-learning-after-covid-19-outbreak/9555366002/May 01 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kitsapsun.com | Bremerton High returning to remote learning after COVID-19 outbreakMay 01 02:03
techrights-newsStates like to conflate computer security with national security, where the latter requires a SABOTAGE of the former (to dominate all people via their devices)May 01 02:05
techrights-newsNew page: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/latest-videos/2022/April/ in HTTP: http://techrights.org/videos/index-April-2022.htmlMay 01 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Videos - April 2022May 01 02:07
techrights-newsTechnical GulagTube used: Shit, Gulag is reducing my views by screwing with the algo!! Non-technical GulagTube used: My views are down, maybe I offended people, maybe I did something wrong, maybe I need to work harder or buy a newer or more expensive camera. Gulag tortures millions of people for billions of dollars. Get off this wagon. Same for Musk Social (Twitter). Stop being used!!May 01 02:09
techrights-newsSpoiler: Techrights EPO series will show that EPO supports Lukashenko with fundsMay 01 02:15
techrights-newsFCC Poised To Change Directional FM Tower Siting Rules. | Story | insideradio.com ⚓ https://www.insideradio.com/free/fcc-poised-to-change-directional-fm-tower-siting-rules/article_0ba65e54-c78b-11ec-864d-971188f0bf89.html ䷉ Source: insideradioMay 01 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FCC Poised To Change Directional FM Tower Siting Rules. | Story | insideradio.comMay 01 02:15
techrights-newsMusk’s Twitter deal stirs fears of abuse in Asia, Middle East | Al Arabiya English ⚓ https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2022/04/29/Musk-s-Twitter-deal-stirs-fears-of-abuse-in-Asia-Middle-East ䷉ "Elon Musk’s plan to acquire Twitter has alarmed human rights activists in Asia and the Middle East..."May 01 02:16
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: alarabiya.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2022/04/29/Musk-s-Twitter-deal-stirs-fears-of-abuse-in-Asia-Middle-East https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2022/04/29/Musk-s-Twitter-deal-stirs-fears-of-abuse-in-Asia-Middle-EastMay 01 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.alarabiya.net | Musk’s Twitter deal stirs fears of abuse in Asia, Middle East | Al Arabiya EnglishMay 01 02:16
techrights-newsPlatform for violence http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/May 01 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Profits From Conflict | TechrightsMay 01 02:17
techrights-newsI'd like to know if there are good metric or measured by which to show that over the past week activity in Twitter has fallenMay 01 02:17
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techrights-newsTim Anderson is STILL doing Microsoft propaganda! To him, Apple stuff is "compelling" if it runs... WINDOWS https://devclass.com/2022/04/25/asahi-linux-better-vm-support-apple-silicon/ see http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/bribe-for-vista-7-review/May 01 02:19
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: devclass.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devclass.com/2022/04/25/asahi-linux-better-vm-support-apple-silicon/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://devclass.com/2022/04/25/asahi-linux-better-vm-support-apple-silicon/May 01 02:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devclass.com | Apple M1 Macs get more compelling for developersMay 01 02:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tim Anderson Received Bribe for Vista 7 Review | TechrightsMay 01 02:19
psydruidBraindead TimMay 01 02:21
techrights-newsLOL!!! Gulag removes GNU/Linux (Gentoo) feature, brings it back... INNOVATION!! "That's why we're so excited to see Google adding a nifty pinning feature to Chrome OS, bringing your most mundane multitasking desire to life: keeping a window on top." https://www.androidpolice.com/chromeos-always-on-top/May 01 02:21
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: androidpolice.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.androidpolice.com/chromeos-always-on-top/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.androidpolice.com/chromeos-always-on-top/May 01 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Chrome OS is picking up an old-school feature to help level up your multitasking gameMay 01 02:21
psydruidwants to run Braindead OSMay 01 02:21
psydruidBig SurpriseMay 01 02:22
techrights-newsBut social control media as a concept, itself, is a problem https://thenewstack.io/challenges-of-creating-a-decentralized-open-source-twitter/May 01 02:22
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: thenewstack.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/challenges-of-creating-a-decentralized-open-source-twitter/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://thenewstack.io/challenges-of-creating-a-decentralized-open-source-twitter/May 01 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | Challenges of Creating a Decentralized, Open Source Twitter – The New StackMay 01 02:22
techrights-newsChainguard Enforce: Software Supply Chain Security for K8s - The New Stack ⚓ https://thenewstack.io/chainguard-enforce-software-supply-chain-security-for-k8s/ ䷉ Source: thenewstackMay 01 02:24
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: thenewstack.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/chainguard-enforce-software-supply-chain-security-for-k8s/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://thenewstack.io/chainguard-enforce-software-supply-chain-security-for-k8s/May 01 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | Chainguard Enforce: Software Supply Chain Security for K8s – The New StackMay 01 02:24
techrights-newsWindows booster sob as Windows is dying https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/266336/care-about-windows-do-not-watch-this-videoMay 01 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/266336/care-about-windows-do-not-watch-this-video )May 01 02:24
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techrights-newsWindows Has Never Been So Small | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/month-check-statcounter/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/30/month-check-statcounter/May 01 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows Has Never Been So Small | TechrightsMay 01 02:30
techrights-newsApple only third https://www.gsmarena.com/canalys_honor_was_the_top_smartphone_maker_in_china_in_q1_this_year-news-54141.phpMay 01 02:32
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: gsmarena.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gsmarena.com/canalys_honor_was_the_top_smartphone_maker_in_china_in_q1_this_year-news-54141.php https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.gsmarena.com/canalys_honor_was_the_top_smartphone_maker_in_china_in_q1_this_year-news-54141.phpMay 01 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canalys: Honor was the top smartphone maker in China in Q1 this year - GSMArena.com newsMay 01 02:32
MinceRwhat's crApple doing on a list of smartphone makers?May 01 02:33
MinceRor vendorsMay 01 02:33
techrights-newsPentaGAFAM or Silicon Valley became a military (budget) dick-sucking competition. They don't even need to be profitable, it's just graft. Spy for the plutocrats, oppress the population, keep people down.May 01 02:34
schestowitz-TRMinceR: apple invented the smartphoneMay 01 02:34
schestowitz-TRputting a word in front of "phone"May 01 02:34
MinceRlolMay 01 02:35
techrights-newsMatt Asay is a corporate troll, now working (shilling) for Bezos https://www.infoworld.com/article/3658394/the-emerging-risks-of-open-source.htmlMay 01 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The emerging risks of open source | InfoWorldMay 01 02:35
techrights-newsHey, SolarWinds is NOT open source! https://blogs.grammatech.com/software-supply-chain-security-terminologyMay 01 02:37
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: grammatech.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.grammatech.com/software-supply-chain-security-terminology https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://blogs.grammatech.com/software-supply-chain-security-terminologyMay 01 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.grammatech.com | Software Supply Chain Security TerminologyMay 01 02:37
techrights-newsThe term "supply chain" is typically used as a FUD carrier for Microsoft and friends, to deamonise the victims when Microsoft transmits malware (e.g. ShitHub/NPM).May 01 02:38
techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 techpol + social irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-300422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-300422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-300422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-300422.txtMay 01 02:38
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techrights-newsProprietary software is dangerous and malicious. You don't know what you're getting and what may happen next. https://wptavern.com/memberpress-plugin-is-locking-users-out-after-support-license-expiresMay 01 02:39
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: wptavern.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://wptavern.com/memberpress-plugin-is-locking-users-out-after-support-license-expires https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://wptavern.com/memberpress-plugin-is-locking-users-out-after-support-license-expiresMay 01 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wptavern.com | MemberPress Plugin Is Locking Users Out After Support License Expires – WP TavernMay 01 02:39
techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 techrights irc ■ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-300422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-300422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-300422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-300422.txtMay 01 02:39
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techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 boycottnovell irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-300422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-300422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-300422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-300422.txtMay 01 02:40
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techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 techbytes irc ■ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-300422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-300422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-300422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-300422.txtMay 01 02:41
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techrights-newsWorld Malaria Day 2022. Someone should hand over a CHILD to Bill Gates.... for photo ops. https://english.jagran.com/lifestyle/world-malaria-day-2022-check-out-history-significance-and-theme-of-this-day-10042477May 01 02:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.jagran.com | World Malaria Day 2022: Know history, significance and theme of this dayMay 01 02:41
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techrights-newsGerman Volla Phone 22: No Google on Privacy-Focused Phone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163909#comment-33507May 01 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Volla Phone 22 runs Ubuntu Touch or a privacy-focused Android fork... or both (crowdfunding) | Tux MachinesMay 01 02:44
techrights-newsGreenwashing as a skill? You mean marketing? https://cleantechnica.com/2022/04/25/the-demand-for-green-skills-is-growing-globally/May 01 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Demand For Green Skills Is Growing Globally - CleanTechnicaMay 01 02:44
techrights-newsProprietary piece of garbage https://www.techradar.com/news/macos-server-has-been-killed-off-at-lastMay 01 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macOS Server has been killed off at last | TechRadarMay 01 02:45
techrights-news✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-30.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-30.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)May 01 02:45
techrights-newsGlyn Moody now records his poetry as audio https://glanglish.blogspot.com/2021/05/thoughts-for-your-pennies.htmlMay 01 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-glanglish.blogspot.com | Glanglish: Thoughts for your penniesMay 01 02:55
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164348May 01 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 01 03:18
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I found a bunch of books at the thrift store for 70 cents each.May 01 03:32
DaemonFCEveryone wants "Kindle" now.May 01 03:32
schestowitz-TRtoo badMay 01 03:53
schestowitz-TR(if true)May 01 03:53
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techrights-news"Before computers had the hardware for 3D games, some games still managed a 3D view on a limited scale in dungeon crawlers." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/crawl-through-dungeons-hack-computers-or-explore-an-undersea-base-dungeon-crawler-jam/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 01 04:39
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techrights-news"Valve released another set of Steam Deck upgrades and it includes updates for both the Stable and Beta branches." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-updates-out-for-stable-and-beta-better-refresh-rate-switching/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 01 04:39
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techrights-news"Composer is a dependency manager tool for PHP especially designed to install and update project dependencies." https://www.linuxcloudvps.com/blog/how-to-install-and-use-php-composer-on-ubuntu-20-04/May 01 04:41
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techrights-news"The GW-01 protocol conversion gateway features the ARM Cortex-A8 (up to 1 GHz) CPU." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/novakon-new-din-rail-protocol-conversion-gateway-features-ti-sitara-arm-processor/ | Source: Linux GizmosMay 01 04:41
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techrights-newsMozilla as data collector or broker in charity ("foundation") clothing ☛ https://www.neowin.net/news/mozilla039s-open-source-speech-data-project-common-voice-now-has-20000-hours-of-content/ | Source: NeowinMay 01 04:44
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psydruidMozilla as a surveillance companyMay 01 06:26
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mateymjg is actually doing one thing that is one of the most rewarding things there isMay 01 06:36
mateywhich is teachingMay 01 06:37
mateythe cool thing about teaching is that anybody can do it (not everyone is a great teacher, but anybody can do it)May 01 06:37
mateyits sharing knowledge, but more than thatMay 01 06:38
mateyits helping people understand thingsMay 01 06:38
mateyone aspect of this which any good librarian is good at, is helping people find the information that will help them the mostMay 01 06:39
mateyi mean people can look stuff up online, but they dont always know what to look for May 01 06:39
mateylibrarians are good at that. so are good teachersMay 01 06:39
mateyif you get to know someone well enough, you can point them in the right direction in a number of waysMay 01 06:40
mateyso its not just about sharing knowledge, but having knowledge to share (anybody can give someone a url obviously)May 01 06:40
mateysometimes its about weighing options and making recommendationsMay 01 06:41
mateyof course this isnt the kind of teaching where you have a set curriculum and are expected to spoonfeed it to peopleMay 01 06:41
mateyif you dont have the overhead of a formal uni setting for example, tutoring is relatively free-- what matters then is very different (to a degree)May 01 06:42
mateyif the system is failing someone in some way, tutoring is a great way around thatMay 01 06:43
mateybut there are even more opportunities than just formal teaching and tutoringMay 01 06:44
mateyeverybody meets people looking for some kind of information / knowledgeMay 01 06:44
mateyif you prepare yourself more for that, if you learn more about how to provide thatMay 01 06:45
mateythats the kind of teaching anyone can do-- just like with anything else, cooking, coding, whatever, its about practice and trying things outMay 01 06:45
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mateysociety used to have a lot more of that, when teaching was less of a product and more of a way of lifeMay 01 06:46
mateyits not completely phased out, and anywhere you see d-i-y anything theres opportunities thereMay 01 06:46
mateyits something the fsf really dropped the ball with tooMay 01 06:46
mateythe fsf made good strides with books at leastMay 01 06:47
mateythey made good strides with books. i think they could have done a lot more in terms of tutorialsMay 01 06:47
mateyreally not sure why they didntMay 01 06:47
mateysome people grab a tutorial and they learn what they need to knowMay 01 06:47
mateyother people pick up a tutorial, get either confused or overwhelmed (or its the wrong tutorial for their needs) and give upMay 01 06:48
mateythats an opportunity for teachingMay 01 06:48
mateybut more people can do tutorials than books-- of course a lot of books are crap, a lot of tutorials are crapMay 01 06:48
mateynothing you can do about that. make a better oneMay 01 06:49
mateybut teaching is a lot like a live, interactive tutorialMay 01 06:49
mateythe more people do that, the smarter the world will be (maybe. i admit this one is a long shot)May 01 06:50
mateyi mean, its good to write software, contribute to software, without this, teaching software is-- teaching what? without people writing software it doesnt existMay 01 06:51
mateyteaching is one of the best opportunities to spread software and knowledge of software. thats why microsoft took over schools.May 01 06:51
mateyfree (subsidised) marketingMay 01 06:51
mateyi taught someone how to use gcc recently. admittedly its not something i know much about myselfMay 01 06:53
mateyi prefer to teach what i knowMay 01 06:53
mateybut it put them ahead just a little, because a little while later they were required to use it, and already had some familiarity and comfort with itMay 01 06:54
mateyso even little pushes liks that can make a bit of a differenceMay 01 06:54
mateyand at the time i didnt even know what beast llvm wasMay 01 06:54
mateybut even if ibm gcc shouldnt be ibm gccMay 01 06:55
mateyjust as openbsd is more forkable than gnu, i think its likely that ibm gcc is more forkable than microsoft llvmMay 01 06:55
mateybut we will see. maybe someone will make a less beastly llvm (i wouldnt know how, so i dont know if its possible or not)May 01 06:56
mateythe bootstrap requirements for llvm are fucking nutsMay 01 06:56
mateyi cant even believe themMay 01 06:56
mateygcc is nuts too, but it seems less so by an order of magnitudeMay 01 06:57
mateyi like the idea of being able to compile an os with tinyccMay 01 06:58
mateyeven though it probably makes way more sense to compile it with gccMay 01 06:58
mateythe option seems worthwhileMay 01 06:59
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mateythe option has its own advantagesMay 01 06:59
mateyfor example, you wont learn much about compiling from using a reproducible build, unless you go to all the trouble of creating one May 01 07:00
mateyim not knocking the idea itselfMay 01 07:00
mateywith something like tinycc, if that were an option, you could learn how to compile an entire os. on a cheaper hardware.May 01 07:00
mateythat sounds like a great option to meMay 01 07:00
mateythen, IF you ever decide to build an entire os using something like gcc, which is more optimised, youve already got the experience of building an entire os.May 01 07:01
mateyand maybe people downplay the optimisation of tcc vs default gcc settings, i dont know about thatMay 01 07:02
mateyimo, everyone should consider devoting SOME time to teaching if possibleMay 01 07:02
mateyits great to have knowledge, to accumulate knowledge, to APPLY itMay 01 07:02
mateyand if you share the software you make, thats also helpfulMay 01 07:03
mateythen if on top of that, you devote SOME time to teaching-- even a littleMay 01 07:03
mateythats REALLY goodMay 01 07:03
mateyit doesnt always mean getting a job, sometimes it just means writing something or helping someoneMay 01 07:03
mateybut its something on top of creating software or simply applying knowledgeMay 01 07:04
mateyplus, people can use something like gnu/linux but ive met people who learned how to code, and still find the command line intimidatingMay 01 07:05
mateyto me thats backwardsMay 01 07:05
mateythe command line should be LESS intimidating than coding, because to being with, its just a way to run a programMay 01 07:05
mateyyou type the name, theres even autocomplete, typing the name of the program runs the program.May 01 07:06
mateythats too fucking simple. anybody can understand that. nobody needs to be intimidatedMay 01 07:06
mateyfrom there, maybe you show them a parameter or "switch" or "option"May 01 07:06
mateyalready this is incredibly valuableMay 01 07:06
mateyand oops, now theyre less intimidated by the command lineMay 01 07:07
mateybut people get some distro that tells them YOU WONT NEED THE COMMAND LINE!May 01 07:07
mateyand theyre like, thats a reasonable thing to want, i dont ever want to have to bother with th-- why?May 01 07:07
mateyits not that badMay 01 07:07
mateybut if no one ever shows them that, a lot of people wont knowMay 01 07:08
mateyso you can actually undo some ignorance that wayMay 01 07:08
mateyand thats a huge helpMay 01 07:08
mateyreplace more ignorant expectations with more reasonable (less self-defeating) expectationsMay 01 07:08
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mateyand if youre good at it, or get good at it-- you can also help instill (a reasonable level of) confidenceMay 01 07:09
mateywhich is something that helps someone for a lifetimeMay 01 07:09
mateybut its another area where even a little push in the right direction can make a huge differenceMay 01 07:10
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mateyat one point, honestly, ubuntu and puppy were more like thisMay 01 07:10
mateyeventually it becomes a big pissing match and the idiots take over, that happensMay 01 07:11
mateyso having a single community that does this isnt a good plan long-termMay 01 07:11
mateyrather than a single community, or one school, or something like codecademyMay 01 07:11
mateywhich is always going to be a single point of failureMay 01 07:12
mateyits better to just increase the number of people in the world who have this as an interest, and maybe a habitMay 01 07:13
mateythen they will be everywhereMay 01 07:13
mateysingle points of failure wont be an issue thenMay 01 07:13
mateyits amazing the fsf didnt talk about thisMay 01 07:13
mateyit would have made them twice as resilientMay 01 07:13
mateyim sure they touched on the topic slightly now and thenMay 01 07:14
mateyits clearly not a big part of their missionMay 01 07:14
mateythey always expected other groups to take care of thisMay 01 07:14
mateyok, but they could have talked about it more.May 01 07:14
mateythey never focused enough on teachingMay 01 07:14
mateybut they did create some books though, thats far better than nothingMay 01 07:15
mateyit didnt accomplish what it could have if theyd gone farther beyond thatMay 01 07:15
mateythey let their enemies have that to themselvesMay 01 07:15
mateystrategically missed opportunitiesMay 01 07:16
mateysell the idea of free software to schools, theyre the experts on edu-- no theyre notMay 01 07:16
mateylots of schools suck. its a broken systemMay 01 07:16
mateyschools have been slaves to microsoft since the 90s if not soonerMay 01 07:17
mateyif not sooner only because apple was very keen on getting there firstMay 01 07:17
mateymicrosoft was for business, apple was for education. i hated apple, i had a better machine at home (and the commercials were condescending as fuck. they were shrewed and targeted idiots)May 01 07:18
mateygreat marketing. except it provided a lot of the ignorance along the lines of the self-defeating "IT JUST WORKS" expectations i mentioned the merit of undoing earlierMay 01 07:18
mateyit created terrible expectations. and later, microsoft would get wise to that, and do exactly the sameMay 01 07:19
mateymaking windows into windows for dummiesMay 01 07:19
mateythen windows for computer repair shops :)May 01 07:19
mateybut never windows for usersMay 01 07:19
mateyapple started with bsd, but if you look at what they do to it, they built a metropolis of bullshit on top of itMay 01 07:20
mateythen they dug in and-- i mean if you go to single user mode, theres still infiltration of crapple bullshit underneath the guiMay 01 07:21
mateyit just seeps into the foundationMay 01 07:21
mateybut thats stuff they added, then they removed whatever was in its place-- a bit like the systemdification of gnu/linuxMay 01 07:21
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mateyin a real bsd or even a reasonable gnu/linux systemd, you only need a simple dhcp tool like dhcpcd or dhclient (maybe) to get the thing onto the network (if its wired)May 01 07:22
mateyi seem to recall it taking a lot more than that (several ridiculous steps) to get that in single user mode on a macMay 01 07:23
mateyits not hard to look up and confirm this though, if im not mistakenMay 01 07:23
mateysince a mac is non-free, who cares, get a free systemMay 01 07:24
mateythe only way that it matters is that industry sets bad examples, whether free or notMay 01 07:24
mateyand free software copies them later (systemd. gnome. mozilla)May 01 07:25
mateyso the fact that non-free software has stupid designs, and people dont know more about alternatives, means later it will be easier for gnome or poettering or mozilla to saddle people with crap, even with a free license slapped onMay 01 07:25
mateyi mean in the golden years of free software, we actually talked about how shitty windows wasMay 01 07:26
mateyand there was a point in doing thatMay 01 07:26
mateywhen open source taught us to not care about that, and stallman told us not to talk about itMay 01 07:26
mateydont lets be beastly to microsoftMay 01 07:26
mateywe lost valuable teaching moments-- and all such teaching was slandered as hate, neckbeardism and even promoting non-free softwareMay 01 07:27
mateystrategic missed opportunitiesMay 01 07:27
mateygo and give a talk about this at lieplanetMay 01 07:28
mateyoh, good luckMay 01 07:28
mateylieplanet bows to corporate control of the cultureMay 01 07:28
mateythen it spends a lot of time pretending to be revolutionaryMay 01 07:28
mateytheres words for thatMay 01 07:28
mateycontrolled opposition, doublespeakMay 01 07:29
mateybut sometimes they say good things!May 01 07:29
mateyyeah, thats the whole fucking point of doublespeakMay 01 07:29
mateylike if you murder hundreds of thousands of people, then say youre liberating them.May 01 07:30
mateyoh well, if it liberates them, i guess killing civilians is okayMay 01 07:30
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mateyoh, if they say some good things, i suppose surgically removing freedom from a movement entirely about freedom is okMay 01 07:30
mateyits about the higher good blah blah blah ie corporate control. what? just go with it. (or else)May 01 07:31
matey#techrights : 05/01/22 06:10 <matey> at one point, honestly, ubuntu and puppy were more like thisMay 01 07:31
matey#techrights : 05/01/22 06:11 <matey> eventually it becomes a big pissing match and the idiots take over, that happensMay 01 07:31
mateyhappened to lieplanetMay 01 07:31
mateyeven if you see a good talk thereMay 01 07:32
mateyits like a good teacher in a broken systemMay 01 07:32
mateyan unbroken system would let a good teacher accomplish so much moreMay 01 07:32
mateyinstead they have to fight constantly, its wasted energyMay 01 07:32
mateylike writing a free installer for windows-- maybe it has meritMay 01 07:33
mateybut what would be better still is NOT USING WINDOWSMay 01 07:33
mateya good teacher in a broken school system is probably a good thingMay 01 07:33
mateybut NOT having a broken system is even betterMay 01 07:33
mateya good talk at lieplanet may be a good thingMay 01 07:33
mateybut NOT having a bullshit corrupt organisation would be even betterMay 01 07:33
mateyby an order of magnitudeMay 01 07:34
mateywe should be trying to end windowsMay 01 07:34
mateyand end broken systemsMay 01 07:35
mateyand end corruption, not only trying to sneak good things into these things (sometimes the latter is worth doing of course)May 01 07:35
mateywith teaching, you can sometimes do more outside the systemMay 01 07:35
mateywith lieplanet, you can do WAY MORE outside the systemMay 01 07:36
mateylieplanet is a fucking gulagMay 01 07:36
mateyits amazing the amount of trouble they go to, for scrapsMay 01 07:37
mateypeople could be talking like that (even better) all yeaerMay 01 07:37
matey but free software has so little to say these daysMay 01 07:37
mateysince it became open sourceMay 01 07:37
matey1 part freedom, two parts bullshit, three parts self-defeating changes in strategyMay 01 07:38
mateyjust keep the part about freedom and to hell with the rest of itMay 01 07:38
mateykeep the parts of gnu that serve freedom, and to hell with the rest of itMay 01 07:39
mateygood luck with that tooMay 01 07:39
mateythere will be more free software, somewhereMay 01 07:39
mateymaybe this time they can get education right tooMay 01 07:39
mateyinstead of expecting schools to teach free software, when the purpose of schools isnt to make people free, but to make them into consumers and corporate serfsMay 01 07:39
mateysome teach free software, but more teach windows and mac.May 01 07:40
mateythey teach whatsapp and gmail.May 01 07:40
mateythey teach android and normalise mass surveillance.May 01 07:40
mateythen we wonder why free software is failing. because strategically its gotten fucking stupidMay 01 07:41
mateyand you have to suck up to microsoft and liars and corrupt people all at onceMay 01 07:41
mateyjust keep the part about freedom and to hell with the rest of itMay 01 07:41
mateyyou can expect people to do that, the only ones that matter are going to do exactly thatMay 01 07:42
mateythe rest can go to hellMay 01 07:42
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mjg59_matey: It's rewarding, but I find teaching stressful - there's a lot of fear about letting students downMay 01 08:11
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mateythere's a lot of fear about letting students down <- well, if it helpsMay 01 08:17
mateyand this is going to sound like sarcasm, but its from the heartMay 01 08:17
mateychances are, the worst thing youll ever do, youve already doneMay 01 08:17
mateyso bright future?May 01 08:17
mateyi mean, the futures up to you (sort of)May 01 08:18
mateysort of because, obviously no one has full control of destiny. but they have a lot of control over the choices they haveMay 01 08:18
mateywhen i was younger, i thought i could never work on (other peoples) computersMay 01 08:19
mateybecause i couldnt bear the idea of giving back someone their machine and saying "im sorry, there wasnt anything i could do"May 01 08:20
mateyi mean i was that sentimental and perfectionist about the ideaMay 01 08:20
mateyi either had to get everything right! like some kind of world class surgeonMay 01 08:20
mateyor not botherMay 01 08:20
mateyto be fair, i was fresh out of my teens. but still i find it charming to think how naive that wasMay 01 08:21
mateyall the best people fuck up, but my favourite version of this isMay 01 08:21
matey"only a mediocre [person] is always at [their] best"May 01 08:22
mateythe original version of the quote is fine, here i find the pronoun distractingMay 01 08:22
mateyit was originally man/his and this of course, applies to completely everyoneMay 01 08:23
mjg59_Yeah I already got an award for being one of the best teachers on the courseMay 01 08:23
mjg59_So I really should feel like it's ok nowMay 01 08:24
mateyawards are distracting tooMay 01 08:24
mateyi mean theres nothing wrong with themMay 01 08:24
mjg59_But it's security and it's operating systems so it's a constantly evolving fieldMay 01 08:24
mateyim sure youll find theres never a better reward than hearing from a student that you helped in some wayMay 01 08:24
mjg59_And I don't want to end up teaching them shit that's 10 years out of dateMay 01 08:24
mateysometimes 10 years out of date is betterMay 01 08:24
mateysometimes something new is an improvementMay 01 08:25
mjg59_Eh in this case not so muchMay 01 08:25
mjg59_I'm not teaching them about tools, more about what actually exists and what they need to worry aboutMay 01 08:25
mateyi mean, security updates still exist for a good reason.May 01 08:25
mateyand what they need to worry about <- ah, well here theres another rule to considerMay 01 08:25
mateyone you already knowMay 01 08:25
mateywhat you need to worry about is a matter of your... what is it, threat model?May 01 08:26
mateyi mean i have absolutely no security against flying zebras with lasers attached to their foreheadsMay 01 08:26
mateyif someone sends flying zebras with lasers attached to their foreheads, lets face it, im fuckedMay 01 08:27
mateyits simply something i have no preparation forMay 01 08:27
mateythe good news is that (touch wood) such an attack is VERY unlikely. some comfort thereMay 01 08:28
mateywhether youre preparing them for an security compromise, or simply for the futureMay 01 08:28
mateyit depends on the threat model, right?May 01 08:28
mjg59_It's more "Don't worry about these things unless you're in a weird place, it's a solved problem otherwise"May 01 08:28
mateyyeahMay 01 08:28
mateyso you might be worried about (basically) nothing thereMay 01 08:29
mjg59_Like from an OS perspective, these days all your passwords are decently salted and you don't need to worry much about offline crackingMay 01 08:29
mateythe best thing you can teach them is how to fill the gaps in their own knowledgeMay 01 08:29
mjg59_That's a big part of it, but not all of itMay 01 08:29
mateyteach them how to self teach. but obviously this is glib advice without trying to give them the essentialsMay 01 08:29
mjg59_The other part is to recognise that their users are humans and their motivations are rationalMay 01 08:30
mateyand you don't need to worry much about offline cracking <- thats cool, i didnt even know thatMay 01 08:30
mjg59_A security policy that prevents users from getting their work done ends up with people violating polocyMay 01 08:30
mateyyes!May 01 08:30
mjg59_Security needs to understand users, not just impose restrictions on themMay 01 08:30
mateyhence pledge (which takes this into account, whether or not its the greatest security feauture eveR)May 01 08:30
mjg59_Otherwise you end up in a less secure situationMay 01 08:31
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mjg59_So yeah I try to teach them that as wellMay 01 08:31
mateyyeah, i mean you can put a lock on a fridge if youre dietingMay 01 08:31
mateybut its sort of moot if you have the key, youre just going to open the lock and get inMay 01 08:31
mjg59_Good analogyMay 01 08:32
mjg59_So people end up doing stuff like sharing scripts that automate disk encryption unlock with a fixed password because they need their workstations to reboot after power cutsMay 01 08:33
mateyhehMay 01 08:33
mjg59_Which means the encryption is pointless, but if you don't know that's happening then everything looks secureMay 01 08:33
mateynot to change the subject but what do you think of pledge incidentally? i bring it up because it works so well from THIS perspective (the one we are talking about) but other than that...May 01 08:33
mateyive heard its not badMay 01 08:33
mjg59_There's ways to solve this that retain security without breaking their ability to use their computers, but you'll never know you need to do that unless people tell you they're doing the less secure thingMay 01 08:34
mjg59_pledge() is great if you control the entire OS stackMay 01 08:34
mjg59_It could never work on LinuxMay 01 08:34
mateyfair enoughMay 01 08:34
mjg59_Because it works on system calls, and applications make library callsMay 01 08:34
mjg59_And updating a library might result in it making different system callsMay 01 08:34
mateycouldnt you... um...May 01 08:35
mateycouldnt you still put pledge at the layer between the library and the kernelMay 01 08:35
mateyand then write the policy thereMay 01 08:35
mjg59_Kernel has no idea what library calls are being madeMay 01 08:35
mjg59_That's all in userlandMay 01 08:35
mateyoh rightMay 01 08:35
mateynow i get itMay 01 08:36
mateymaybeMay 01 08:36
mateyat least it makes senseMay 01 08:36
mjg59_You could implement pledge() using the BPF LSMMay 01 08:36
mateyi think it would be harder to sell from a cultural standpointMay 01 08:36
mjg59_But glibc might get updated and use a different system call in response to the same library callMay 01 08:36
mjg59_And then your existing policy might breakMay 01 08:36
mateyand then people would still be likeMay 01 08:37
matey"why am i enabling something that makes things less stable"May 01 08:37
mateyand for openbsd, people know whyMay 01 08:37
mateybut for "linux" people are like "no, just make it work!"May 01 08:37
mateyso it breaks less things than some strict policiesMay 01 08:37
mateybut dammit it still breaks stuffMay 01 08:37
mjg59_Having userland and kernel maintained by the same people gives some advantagesMay 01 08:38
mateytheres less culture of "leave that on, it will save you later" in the "linux" workdMay 01 08:38
matey Having userland and kernel maintained by the same people gives some advantages <- yeah, i love that its even possibleMay 01 08:38
mjg59_So yeah pledge() isn't impossible in Linux from a technical perspective, but the social perspective just isn't going to workMay 01 08:38
mateyi figure thats probably true. you have to want such a thing first.May 01 08:38
mateysee the merit in itMay 01 08:39
mateyotherwise its just "my browser crases a bit more often"May 01 08:39
matey"fix it"May 01 08:39
mjg59_Instead we have browsers imposing their own seccomp policiesMay 01 08:42
mjg59_Which encourages static linking, because otherwise a dependency might get updated and break that policyMay 01 08:42
mjg59_There's no easy solutionMay 01 08:42
mateyi mean, if browsers werent expected to do half of what an os does (by count, or by sheer size of codebase)May 01 08:43
mateymaybe we could have more than basically two of them.May 01 08:43
mateyand then implement a reasonable policy on ONE of them, and pretend the others dont exist.May 01 08:44
mateyid love it if browsers were less complicatedMay 01 08:44
mateybut the web has made that sort of hopelessMay 01 08:44
mateywe are far, far past the level of complexity i could ever want from any websiteMay 01 08:45
mateythere should be more tiers of feature than oneMay 01 08:45
mateylike what wap did, for its own reasonsMay 01 08:46
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mateyyou should be able to say something likeMay 01 08:46
mateyi only bother with tier 2 websites and smallerMay 01 08:46
mateyi never enable tier 1May 01 08:46
mateyand then all the BULLSHIT that the web does nowMay 01 08:46
mjg59_Microsoft had some level of that in IE at one pointMay 01 08:46
mateyput that inMay 01 08:46
mateyyeah, i was going to sayMay 01 08:47
mjg59_Like, "Don't enable ActiveX unless I trust this site"May 01 08:47
mateyits funny, because ie actually sort of had thisMay 01 08:47
mateyyeah but that was still a policyMay 01 08:47
mateyi mean built into the web standard itselfMay 01 08:47
mateybecause the standard is (imo) the real problem hereMay 01 08:47
mateywhats great about having that in the standard isMay 01 08:47
mateyyou could make a browser that didnt even IMPLEMENT the most bullshit tierMay 01 08:48
mateyit would only implement one lighter tier, or twoMay 01 08:48
mateybut it would also be a sort of security featureMay 01 08:48
mateyalex limi of course, has a very different viewMay 01 08:48
mateybeing able to turn off js breaks the web!May 01 08:48
mateyits bad for business! so he removed the turn off js checkbox.May 01 08:48
mateyAND the turn off images checkbox. about:config should be good enough for anybody!May 01 08:49
mateythanks, alex.May 01 08:49
mateythis happened more than a decade ago. people are like "wow, you know his NAME"May 01 08:49
mateyyeah. because i hate him.May 01 08:49
mateygranted ive probably only mentioned him twice in 5 years.May 01 08:49
mateyalso, if it were built into the standardMay 01 08:50
mateyyou could have a more user-friendly version of something like umatrixMay 01 08:50
mateyi mean umatrix is awesomeMay 01 08:50
mateyshould be builtin to every browser May 01 08:50
mateyit crashes and you have to disable and reenable it :/May 01 08:51
mateyor restart the browser, which is less convenientMay 01 08:51
mateybut you could have something like noscript for the tierMay 01 08:51
mateyper-websiteMay 01 08:51
mateybut again :) ie had thatMay 01 08:51
mateyand i feel very silly advocating it for that reasonMay 01 08:51
mateybut it would be better if it were in the standardMay 01 08:52
mateynever happen anywayMay 01 08:52
mjg59_figuring out a good way to have a global policy that handles that sort of thing is hardMay 01 08:52
mjg59_But also I'm going to go and fall asleep nowMay 01 08:52
mateyagreedMay 01 08:52
mateyo/May 01 08:52
mjg59_But yeah your argument here is goodMay 01 08:53
mjg59_Reducing exposure would make a lot of things saferMay 01 08:53
mateyuseless for most people unless you change the culture May 01 08:53
mateybut not useless for people who know betterMay 01 08:53
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mateyi dont hate limi for removing the checkboxMay 01 08:59
mateyi hate him for writing this piece of utter bullshit to justify it https://limi.net/checkboxesMay 01 08:59
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mateythe lie was the bigger crimeMay 01 09:00
mateysimilarly, im not mad at stallman for using no-derivsMay 01 09:00
mateythis part isnt what really pisses me off This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-No Derivative Works 3.0 license (or later version)May 01 09:02
mateyTHIS part is what really fucks me off Why this license? https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OpinionLicensesMay 01 09:02
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mateyi stopped giving them money over thatMay 01 09:02
mateybecause thats how stupid and destrutive that dumb shit isMay 01 09:03
mateyjust a huge, ignorant, double standard "fuck you" to free cultureMay 01 09:03
mateyi guarantee, a lot of people who signed the damned letter did it because the fsf shit all over the free culture movementMay 01 09:03
mateyit still wasnt rightMay 01 09:03
mateybut its to be expectedMay 01 09:03
mateythe fsf made enemies thereMay 01 09:04
mateywith their utter stupidity about the issueMay 01 09:04
mateyand they say oh, thats not what we doMay 01 09:04
mateyright, if thats not what you do, shut the fuck up then.May 01 09:04
mateyif youre going to argue AGAINST free culture, based on nonsense, then thats part of your "advocacy" May 01 09:05
mateyits right on your website. this isnt some "bad tweet" off somewhere else on the webMay 01 09:05
mateyits something the fsf advocatesMay 01 09:05
mateybut then they do the exact opposite elsewhere.May 01 09:05
mateybecause clearly, there is an internal struggle on the issueMay 01 09:05
mateyand this is something rms fucked up. badly.May 01 09:06
mateyid say of his biggest mistakes, its one of the three.May 01 09:06
mateyhis position on hardware will probably eclipse it, if it hasnt already. May 01 09:06
mateybut i think thats probably going to matter more in the futureMay 01 09:07
novelistLinux is running on your lightbulbs!May 01 09:07
mateyroflMay 01 09:07
mateyoh, godMay 01 09:07
novelistsays Matthew MillerMay 01 09:08
mateybut rms is like i dont want to make lightbulbsMay 01 09:08
mateythen he goes and says, free software is important even if you dont code-- which is trueMay 01 09:08
mateyfor EXACTLY THE SAME REASON it doesnt fucking matter if you want to make lightbulbs or notMay 01 09:08
mateyi mean, theres really a parallel universe somewhereMay 01 09:08
mateywhere the arguments he makes about software apply to other things too.May 01 09:09
mateybut NOT THIS ONE! i guess?May 01 09:09
mateyyes, i understand the difference between hardware and software, in practical termsMay 01 09:09
mateylike just copying hardware isnt nearly as trivial as copying softwareMay 01 09:09
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mateyit costs a lot more to make ONE copy of hardware vs ONE copy of softwareMay 01 09:09
mateybutMay 01 09:10
mateythe differences are getting smaller, not largerMay 01 09:10
mateyand hes making a lot of differences that are getting smallerMay 01 09:10
mateythe difference between software and cultural works exists too-- from a copyright law standpoint theres a differenceMay 01 09:10
mateybut he made too much of that tooMay 01 09:11
mateythats why hes at odds with free cultureMay 01 09:11
mateymy lightbulbs are dumb, not smartMay 01 09:11
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mateybut i might go for smarter bulbs if they were free hardware andMay 01 09:12
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techrights-newsmyPalletizer 4 axis robot arm available in M5 Stack & Raspberry Pi 4 models • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164350May 01 09:12
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mateymaybe this provided a setting that made them last 2x as long? hell yesMay 01 09:12
techrights-news#HowTo Install Classic GNOME Flashback in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164351May 01 09:12
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mateyor maybe if lightbulbs were free hardware, you coudl REPAIR themMay 01 09:13
mateyinstead of getting a bulb that has all that electronic shit plus the part that burns out fasterMay 01 09:13
matey(this is half true, sometimes the electronics go first)May 01 09:13
mateymaybe you could get the part that burns out faster and replace itMay 01 09:13
mateysaving money and creating less ewasteMay 01 09:13
novelistlightbulb networksMay 01 09:14
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mateyi dont want a lot of features in my bulbsMay 01 09:14
mateybut thats just another reason free hardware matters.May 01 09:14
mateybecause if i need a phone (and id rather not)May 01 09:14
mateyi want a phone with AS FEW FEATURES as possibleMay 01 09:14
mateynot a smartphoneMay 01 09:14
mateyand flipphones are really just fucking disappearing from the market nowMay 01 09:15
mateyfree hardware could do somethign about that.May 01 09:15
mateyso people who are like-- you dont need all those features in a lightbulbMay 01 09:15
mateytheyre missing the pointMay 01 09:15
mateyfree hardware means you can have fewer features too, not just moreMay 01 09:15
mateyfree software used to mean that too :) but the fsf fucked that up as wellMay 01 09:15
mateythey forgot to write freedom 4, the freedom to NOT run the softwareMay 01 09:16
mateyso eventually every application becomes a fucking operating systemMay 01 09:16
mateyand every application becomes mandatoryMay 01 09:17
mateyand the only way to have freedom is to say fuck it and start with a new osMay 01 09:17
mateyoops?May 01 09:17
mateyi mean if some arsehole can just add several millions of line of code to something every yearMay 01 09:17
mateyhow the fuck does freedom 3 apply? theyre simulating proprietary software under a free licenseMay 01 09:18
mateyand theyre PROUD of it, they gloatMay 01 09:18
mateygnome gloats that you have no choiceMay 01 09:18
mateyfuck themMay 01 09:18
mateythese devs say linux isnt about choice!May 01 09:18
mateygood, to hell with linux thenMay 01 09:19
mateythrow it in a fireMay 01 09:19
mateygnome can go tooMay 01 09:19
mateywhen devs start gloating that you have no choice, they need to goMay 01 09:19
novelistyou allways have a choiceMay 01 09:20
mateyfsvo choiceMay 01 09:20
mateysome devs really get off on reducing your choicesMay 01 09:20
mateyon making people more depedentMay 01 09:20
mateydependentMay 01 09:20
mateythats nothing to do with freedomMay 01 09:20
mateythey need to goMay 01 09:20
mateytheyre not helping, theyre the problemMay 01 09:20
mateytheres no such thing as perfect modularity either-- but theres a reasonable level of itMay 01 09:21
mateysome people sabotage thatMay 01 09:21
mateythey need to goMay 01 09:21
mateythese arent isolated incidents or innocent mistakes, theyre well known trends lasting years or moreMay 01 09:21
mateyagain, devs gloat about thisMay 01 09:21
mateythe best thing they can do is stop writing softwareMay 01 09:22
mateythat would help a lotMay 01 09:22
novelistibm doesnt even makes computers anymoreMay 01 09:22
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mateyhi bartoMay 01 09:23
bartogreetingsMay 01 09:23
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techrights-news"There’s a pattern that emerged in software some time ago" ☛ https://davmac.wordpress.com/2022/04/30/forgetting-about-the-problem-of-memory/ | Source: Software Is CrapMay 01 09:24
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techrights-news"About a decade ago, we wound up caught in a wiki trap" ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/SupportSiteHTMLExperience | Source: uni TorontoMay 01 09:26
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mateyyoure more likely to get something out of this channel if you say thingsMay 01 09:27
techrights-news"How many opportunities do we let go when we’re passively using our phones?" ☛ https://afhub.dev/2022/04/29/disconnecting-is-becoming-increasingly-difficult/ |May 01 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-afhub.dev | Disconnecting is becoming increasingly difficultMay 01 09:28
mateylurking is acceptable, but not optimalMay 01 09:28
bartoi don't know what to sayMay 01 09:28
mateyits a startMay 01 09:28
mateyyou could say what brings you hereMay 01 09:28
mateyi sort of know, someh4xor always says to come hereMay 01 09:29
mateythere must be a reasonMay 01 09:29
techrights-news"CNN projected that the service would have two million subscribers by the end of the year" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/23043232/cnn-plus-axios-chat-shut-down-streaming-news | Source: The VergeMay 01 09:29
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mateyif you dont know, you can guessMay 01 09:29
mateysometimes guesses turn out to be rightMay 01 09:29
mateybut take your time, this place is technically open 24/7May 01 09:30
bartoi probably told SomeH4x0r that i like free softwareMay 01 09:30
bartodon't rememberMay 01 09:30
mateyhe says its a topic youre interested in May 01 09:30
bartoyupMay 01 09:30
techrights-newsInformation & Data Protection Commissioner (IDPC) ☛ https://noyb.eu/en/political-data-breach-malta-c-planet-refuses-right-access-and-information | Source: NYOBMay 01 09:30
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mateyits a very interesting time for free softwareMay 01 09:30
techrights-news"admitted a data breach potentially affecting 345,000 individuals" ☛ https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/data-breach-at-us-healthcare-provider-arcare-impacts-345-000-individuals | Source: Port SwiggerMay 01 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Data breach at US healthcare provider ARcare impacts 345,000 individuals | The Daily SwigMay 01 09:30
mateyin the chinese curse senseMay 01 09:30
bartohow so?May 01 09:31
mateybut its not going to stop being important, as long as there are computers running softwareMay 01 09:31
mateywellMay 01 09:31
mateyi mean at the moment, free software has mostly been taken over by its #1 enemy (and #2 and #3 as well)May 01 09:31
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mateyso a lot of people are destroying itMay 01 09:32
mateyand some are fighting thisMay 01 09:32
mateyand probably, a lot of the old things will fallMay 01 09:32
mateyand new ones willMay 01 09:32
darwinmy web browser just said the Tech Rights SSL certificate expiredMay 01 09:32
mateytry using http instead of httpsMay 01 09:32
mateyand new ones will take their placeMay 01 09:33
mateysome of the things that are dying now, its more than just sadMay 01 09:33
mateyit didnt have to beMay 01 09:33
mateybut here we areMay 01 09:33
mateyif you do write any free softwareMay 01 09:33
mateydont put it on github. thats a great start.May 01 09:34
bartosomeone i know made a project on github and invited me to it because he needed HTML5 and CSS3 helpMay 01 09:34
mateythatll happenMay 01 09:34
mateyyou can try to get him to move, chances are he wont listenMay 01 09:34
mateybut you never know unless you tryMay 01 09:35
bartothat's trueMay 01 09:35
bartowhy's github so bad for free software though?May 01 09:35
mateyits a monopoly controlled by one of free softwares largest enemiesMay 01 09:35
bartooh yeahMay 01 09:36
bartomicrosoftMay 01 09:36
mateyas part of a goal to destroy free software theyved had for more than 20 yearsMay 01 09:36
mateymicrosoft arent nice peopleMay 01 09:36
mateytheyre still as bad as beforeMay 01 09:36
mateyonly now people trust them againMay 01 09:36
mateyi used to use githubMay 01 09:36
mateybefore it was microsoftMay 01 09:37
mateythere are loads of alternativesMay 01 09:37
mateypeople should use oneMay 01 09:37
bartoi've heard gitea is a good alternativeMay 01 09:37
mateyyeah if you can use gitea use thatMay 01 09:37
mateyi dont know who hosts gitea for free butMay 01 09:38
mateyif someone does, thats an optionMay 01 09:38
mateysmall projects can just be zipped up and put on a website tooMay 01 09:38
mateyi mean, not everything needs a revision systemMay 01 09:38
mateybut there are still options for people who want oneMay 01 09:38
mateyjust look up "github alternatives"May 01 09:39
techrights-newsActual is going Free software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164353https://actualbudget.com/open-source |May 01 09:39
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mateythen pick one that suits youMay 01 09:39
mateythe bigger your project is, the more its worth researching before movingMay 01 09:39
mateythe smaller your project is, the easier it is to hop from one place to another until you have the right oneMay 01 09:40
mateybut you can research options as much as you want toMay 01 09:40
mateyits not like there are hundreds. not really.May 01 09:40
mateymore like 12May 01 09:40
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO: "The war in Ukraine has pushed the United States to expedite its investment in cybersecurity amid constant" ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3470296-ukraine-war-speeds-up-us-cyber-agenda/ | Source: The HillMay 01 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Ukraine war speeds up US cyber agenda | The HillMay 01 09:41
techrights-news"Among them are billionaire GOP donor Peter Thiel and former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey" ☛ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-twitter-takeover-free-speech-banned-accounts-1345233/ | Source: Rolling StoneMay 01 09:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Elon Musk 'Vehemently' Opposed Trump's Twitter Ban: Report - Rolling StoneMay 01 09:41
techrights-news"Twitter as it exists now fills a particular spot in the social media ecosystem." ☛ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-twitter-is-unlikely-to-become-the-digital-town-square-elon-musk-envisions/ | Source: ABCMay 01 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Twitter Is Unlikely To Become The ‘Digital Town Square’ Elon Musk Envisions | FiveThirtyEightMay 01 09:42
bartothe project i mentioned earlier is pretty small so i don't know why it even needs to be on githubMay 01 09:42
mateyim sure it doesntMay 01 09:42
techrights-newsActual is going open-source • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164353May 01 09:42
mateya lot of people think, if i use github, more people will see my proejctMay 01 09:42
mateyits not like github is out to help people that wayMay 01 09:42
mateytheyre out to control that process May 01 09:42
mateyits not a charity, its a monopoly that has all the problems of a monopolyMay 01 09:43
mateyeven if it helps in the short term-- it will cost projects something important in the long runMay 01 09:43
mateyso by all means, if youre going to use github for publicity-- do itMay 01 09:43
mateythen move.May 01 09:43
mateyid avoid them entirely. but if youre going to use it that way, do it and then move.May 01 09:44
mateyin the short run they exaggerate the benefits. in the long run its a liabilityMay 01 09:45
mateythe whole thing is a lieMay 01 09:45
mateythe best thing about the internet is decentralising May 01 09:45
mateythings like github centraliseMay 01 09:45
bartoyeah, that's trueMay 01 09:46
mateyand the short term merits of centraliisation are obviousMay 01 09:46
mateynetwork effectsMay 01 09:46
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164354May 01 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 01 09:46
mateythe more people there, the more worth there isMay 01 09:47
mateybut its a bubbleMay 01 09:47
mateythey only talk about the positive of network effectsMay 01 09:47
mateyyou can find and talk to and have access to more peopleMay 01 09:47
mateythats the positive stage of network effectsMay 01 09:47
mateythen later it turns to shitMay 01 09:47
techrights-news"That following has made it easier to afford increasingly aggressive and invasive cosmetic procedures" ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/followers-cheaper-lips-young-influencers-detail-allure-cosmetic-proced-rcna14463 | Source: NBCMay 01 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Influencers exchange cheap cosmetic surgery for promotion on Tik Tok, but at a costMay 01 09:47
mateyreally in the long run youre better off with smaller networksMay 01 09:48
techrights-news"Friday night’s political agreement on the Digital Services Act (DSA) is a good first step" ☛ https://edri.org/our-work/eu-negotiators-approve-good-dsa-but-more-work-is-needed-to-build-a-better-internet/ | Source: EDRIMay 01 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | EU negotiators approve good DSA, but more work is needed to build a better internet - European Digital Rights (EDRi)May 01 09:48
mateygiant networks should always be the secondary option, never the one that trust and reliance is put intoMay 01 09:48
mateythe big networks should never be used as anything but a mirrorMay 01 09:49
mateytwitter affects stocksMay 01 09:49
mateythats too much powerMay 01 09:49
techrights-newsFraud celebrated? ☛ https://www.salon.com/2022/04/29/the-of-elon-musk-why-do-some-of-us-worship-billionaires/ | Source: SalonMay 01 09:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The cult of Elon Musk: Why do some of us worship billionaires? | Salon.comMay 01 09:49
mateyfacebook affects electionsMay 01 09:50
techrights-news"The Apple Store, located in Atlanta’s Cumberland Mall, is the first of the company’s 272 retail locations" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/29/23048296/apple-retail-store-union-atlanta-cumberland-mall-open-letter | Source: The VergeMay 01 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | What Apple retail employees in Atlanta are fighting for - The VergeMay 01 09:50
mateytwitter and facebook shouldnt have that kind of powerMay 01 09:50
mateythere are no safeties on that, no checks and balancesMay 01 09:50
mateywhen a network has that much power, and its users (frankly) dontMay 01 09:50
mateythat network needs to go, or the users need to take it over.May 01 09:50
mateywith facebook and twitter, the users are not going to take it over.May 01 09:51
mateyso it needs to go.May 01 09:51
techrights-news"U.S. resistance to celebrate International Labor Day — also called International Workers' Day" ☛ https://text.npr.org/1095729592 | Source: NPRMay 01 09:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | What is May Day? For the most part, the opposite of capitalismMay 01 09:51
techrights-news"Do you enjoy not having to work weekends? The 40-hour work week? Having sick days and paid time off?" ☛ https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/international-workers-day-on-may-1st-why-do-we-celebrate-this-occasion |May 01 09:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | International Worker's Day on May 1st: Why do we celebrate this occasion?May 01 09:51
mateygithub is even worseMay 01 09:51
bartoreally?May 01 09:51
mateyit controls something that exists SOLELY to get out of that level of control.May 01 09:51
bartothought that facebook and twitter are the worstMay 01 09:51
techrights-news"Two of the most astute IP [sic] scholars I know also happen to be two of the best legal writers I know" ☛ https://capitalaspower.com/2022/04/duke-is-academias-meanest-trademark-bully/ |May 01 09:51
mateyfacebook and twitter are the worst for SOMETHINGMay 01 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-capitalaspower.com | Duke is academia's meanest trademark bully – Capital As PowerMay 01 09:52
techrights-news"In its 10-Q filing with the SEC, Amazon detailed the components of the MGM deal, which closed March 17." ☛ https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/amazon-mgm-content-library-value-1235254458/ | Source: VarietyMay 01 09:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon Values MGM Content Library at $3.4 Billion - VarietyMay 01 09:52
mateyi mean theyre all the worst for somethingMay 01 09:52
mateygithub is a software repo that destroys software.May 01 09:52
mateyi suppose you can make similar arguments about twitter and facebook, sort ofMay 01 09:52
mateytheres an acronym used here a lotMay 01 09:52
mateygafamMay 01 09:52
mateygoogle amazon facebook apple microsoftMay 01 09:52
mateyi throw in ibm: giafamMay 01 09:53
mateythese are not our friendsMay 01 09:53
mateythey take power away from users, they always haveMay 01 09:54
bartoso like proprietary softwareMay 01 09:54
techrights-news"The Entertainment Software Association, an industry group representing Activision, EA, Epic, Nintendo and other major gaming companies" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/major-persistent-video-game-pirates-investigated-by-esa-220430/ | Source: Torrent FreakMay 01 09:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Major & Persistent Video Game Pirates Investigated by ESA * TorrentFreakMay 01 09:54
bartoit controls the users?May 01 09:54
mateythese are the companies best known for using software to control usersMay 01 09:54
mateythere are othersMay 01 09:55
mateythese are the big onesMay 01 09:55
mateyits sort of a starting pointMay 01 09:55
mateyi mean you cant built a gnu/linux system that is free of githubMay 01 09:55
mateyits impossibleMay 01 09:55
mateyyou can build something else thats free of githubMay 01 09:56
mateya different osMay 01 09:56
bartobut doesn't linus have a linux repository there?May 01 09:56
mateythats really just a mirror i thinkMay 01 09:56
mateylinux is controlled by microsoft in a variety of waysMay 01 09:56
mateylike lots of people from microsoft on the board of the linux foundationMay 01 09:56
mateyand before they get on the board, they do it with moneyMay 01 09:56
mateywhen software was mostly non-free, monopolies would just buy competitorsMay 01 09:57
mateythen kill them offMay 01 09:57
mateythey still do that, even with free software... but its more complicated because people can (theoretically) forkMay 01 09:57
mateyoracle bought openofficeMay 01 09:57
mateythen the developers left openoffice and created libreofficeMay 01 09:57
mateyso thats an example of saving a doomed project by forkingMay 01 09:58
mateyoracle bought everything at once-- then stopped making a freely licensed versionMay 01 09:58
mateythis forced the hands of developers to use the most recent free version and fork from thereMay 01 09:58
mateybut...May 01 09:58
mateyif instead, a company buys a project slowlyMay 01 09:59
mateyand then controls the team more and moreMay 01 09:59
mateythen maybe a fork wont happen at allMay 01 09:59
*ziraffep (~ziraffep@xut3kp7tmzcx4.irc) has joined #techrightsMay 01 09:59
mateyand they can kill the project entirelyMay 01 09:59
mateyyou can still fork the latest free versionMay 01 09:59
mateyonly now, the project is dead, and people have moved onMay 01 09:59
mateyi think thats going to kill libreoffice, in a way that openoffice couldnt be killed.May 01 09:59
mateyblame gnome and collabora when they finally do it.May 01 10:00
mateyso to save free software, people have to know these tricksMay 01 10:00
mateyand then fight them.May 01 10:00
techrights-newsUnions ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-warns-democrats-back-union-movement-now-or-face-defeat-this-fall/ | Source: TruthOutMay 01 10:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Sanders Warns Democrats: Back Union Movement Now or Face Defeat This FallMay 01 10:00
techrights-news"Starbucks has this image of being a progressive company that takes care of its employees. But really that hasn't been the case" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/30/after-amazon-and-starbucks-union-wins-whats-next-reenergized-us-labor-movement | Source: Common DreamsMay 01 10:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | After Amazon and Starbucks Union Wins, What's Next for the Reenergized US Labor Movement? | Aaron WhiteMay 01 10:00
mateytheyll try to make happiness mandatory, and force people to agree to policies that give a rhetorical/marketing/propaganda (reality control) advantage to corporationsMay 01 10:01
mateyso you fight those policies tooMay 01 10:01
mateysame way you fight githubMay 01 10:01
mateyif you have a project, dont enforce such policiesMay 01 10:01
mateyif someone offers you money and is known for such policies, dont take the moneyMay 01 10:01
mateyif all else fails and your board of directors is infiltrated-- make sure your software is designed for being forked :)May 01 10:02
mateyeven the gnu project gets that wrongMay 01 10:02
mateyno one is going to fork gnuMay 01 10:02
mateyso it will be killed off.May 01 10:02
mateythe fork is the last chance for a failed project to surviveMay 01 10:03
mateyif your software isnt forkable, then no license can give freedom 3.May 01 10:03
mateyplain english: dont make a bloated unforkable mess May 01 10:04
mateydont make something like mozilla or systemd. or gnome.May 01 10:04
matey(or libreoffice)May 01 10:04
bartowhy's systemd so hated?May 01 10:04
mateylibreoffice is a fork that im guessing will never be forkedMay 01 10:04
mateysystemd tried to control peopleMay 01 10:04
mateyit tried to take over distrosMay 01 10:04
mateyit even succeededMay 01 10:05
mateythe culture of systemd isntMay 01 10:05
matey"you have choices, youre the boss of, owner of your own computer"May 01 10:05
mateyits pure technical chauvinismMay 01 10:05
matey"we know best, shut up and like it"May 01 10:05
matey"you have no choices. you dont even WANT choices"May 01 10:05
techrights-news"[Jeshua Lacock] from 3DTOPO owns a large-format CNC (4’x8′, or 1.2×2.4 m), that he strongly feels is lacking laser-cutting capabilities." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/30/giant-cnc-partners-with-powerful-laser-diode/ | Source: HackadayMay 01 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Giant CNC Partners With Powerful Laser Diode | HackadayMay 01 10:05
matey"people dont care what their init system is"May 01 10:06
techrights-newsBook censorship ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/childrens-book-authors-are-fighting-back-against-censorship-and-book-bans/ | Source: TruthOutMay 01 10:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Children’s Book Authors Are Fighting Back Against Censorship and Book BansMay 01 10:06
mateygentoo cared what their init system isMay 01 10:06
mateyso systemd told them they would have no choice eitherMay 01 10:06
mateythis is sinisterMay 01 10:06
mateybut at any rateMay 01 10:06
mateyif you control people to where they have no choice-- its hardly free software.May 01 10:06
techrights-newsOnline shooter games ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/30/aimbot-does-it-in-hardware/ | Source: HackadayMay 01 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Aimbot Does It In Hardware | HackadayMay 01 10:07
mateythe point of free software is for users to control their computingMay 01 10:07
mateynot for a corporation like red hat (now ibm) to control usersMay 01 10:07
mateythe freedom you get from the license of systemd, when applied to a project like systemd, is in theory onlyMay 01 10:07
mateyif you fix it, theyll just break it in a way that you have to keep depending on their versionMay 01 10:07
mateyso forks are irrelevantMay 01 10:08
mateymicrosoft did that with rtf decades agoMay 01 10:08
mateysystemd does it now.May 01 10:08
bartothat's scummyMay 01 10:08
mateyto say the leastMay 01 10:08
mateyand theyre proud of itMay 01 10:08
mateydevs like that need to go.May 01 10:08
mateythe best thing they can do to help free software is stop writing softwareMay 01 10:09
techrights-newsMay Day ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/on-may-day-lets-make-bold-demands-for-democracy-at-work-and-in-the-streets/ | Source: TruthOutMay 01 10:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | On May Day, Let's Make Bold Demands for Democracy at Work and in the StreetsMay 01 10:09
mateyi wrote a script that remixed trisquel and debian to remove systemd as pid 1 / initMay 01 10:09
techrights-news"project that tickled my nostalgia bone" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/30/new-tech-and-the-old-ways/ | Source: HackadayMay 01 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Tech And The Old Ways | HackadayMay 01 10:09
mateybut systemd gets into a lot more than thatMay 01 10:09
mateythats just the first stepMay 01 10:09
mateydevuans been fighting systemd for 7 yearsMay 01 10:09
mateyhow is that possible?May 01 10:09
mateywhat is so insidious about systemd May 01 10:10
mateythat it takes the better part of a decade to remove it? and theyre still working on itMay 01 10:10
mateythats insaneMay 01 10:10
mateyi switched to bsdMay 01 10:10
techrights-news"The origin story for many who’d call themselves a member of the hacker community usually starts with taking things apart as a child" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/30/hacking-toy-rc-cars-with-the-hackrf-one/ | Source: HackadayMay 01 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hacking Toy RC Cars With The HackRF One | HackadayMay 01 10:10
mateyi fought REALLY REALLY hard to stay away from systemd on gnu/linuxMay 01 10:10
mateyfinally after years i just switched to bsdMay 01 10:10
mateyi shouldve done it soonerMay 01 10:11
bartois bsd any good?May 01 10:11
mateydepends on what youre looking forMay 01 10:11
techrights-news"[GreatScott!] was bummed to see his greenhouse be empty and lifeless in winter." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/30/plant-growth-accelerated-tremendously-with-leds/ | Source: HackadayMay 01 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Plant Growth Accelerated Tremendously With LEDs | HackadayMay 01 10:11
mateyif youre looking for a long-term, stable, forkable os that has these things in ways gnu/linux is completely doomedMay 01 10:12
mateythen bsd is all you need.May 01 10:12
mateybut thats a big if, right? May 01 10:12
mateyi mean, theres less software for bsd, somewhat less hardware supportMay 01 10:12
mateythe advantage of trying bsd for a lot of people May 01 10:12
techrights-newsProprietary Software Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164355May 01 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 01 10:12
mateyis seeing what it can and cant doMay 01 10:12
mateybecause if we just talk about it, people exaggerate what it WONT doMay 01 10:13
mateybut if you want the MOST software, the MOST compatibilityMay 01 10:13
mateyand you dont care if it gets shittier and more hateful all the timeMay 01 10:13
mateythen theres no reason to switch from linux, rightMay 01 10:13
mateybut personally i wanted to stand up to thisMay 01 10:13
mateyi didnt spend 10 years migrating to gnu/linux just to have it all controlled by microsoft (github) and ibm (systemd)May 01 10:14
mateyi mean ibm and microsoft is what i was stuck with in the 1980sMay 01 10:14
mateyfree software was my plan to get away from them!May 01 10:14
mateyif my computing is controlled by those two companies anyway, free software doesnt do what i switched to it for.May 01 10:15
mateybut the fight is still worthwhileMay 01 10:15
mateyits just-- the fsfs job is to fight this, and they dont anymoreMay 01 10:16
bartowhat if i use an alternative to systemd?May 01 10:16
bartolike openRCMay 01 10:16
mateyif you use an alternative to systemd, thats goodMay 01 10:16
mateyi used sysvinitMay 01 10:16
mateyi tried some openrc distros tooMay 01 10:16
mateyopenrc of course, is github :)May 01 10:16
techrights-newsReview of ad??? "I’d like to thank Ulenic for sending T10 for review. It can be purchased for $429 on Amazon" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/01/ultenic-t10-review-a-self-emptying-2-in-1-smart-vacuum-robot-with-mopping-function/May 01 10:16
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/01/ultenic-t10-review-a-self-emptying-2-in-1-smart-vacuum-robot-with-mopping-function/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/01/ultenic-t10-review-a-self-emptying-2-in-1-smart-vacuum-robot-with-mopping-function/May 01 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Ultenic T10 review - A self-emptying 2-in-1 smart vacuum robot with mopping function - CNX SoftwareMay 01 10:16
barto:-(May 01 10:16
mateyyeahMay 01 10:16
mateyi mean things are badMay 01 10:16
bartowhat about runitMay 01 10:16
mateyi think runit is cool, let me checkMay 01 10:16
mateyyep its cool http://smarden.org/runit/May 01 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smarden.org | runit - a UNIX init scheme with service supervisionMay 01 10:17
mateybut youll find lots of things rely on libsystemd (this isnt runits fault, its just the other places systemd gets into)May 01 10:17
mateyand people say well, thats no big dealMay 01 10:18
mateywhile yorue avoiding systemd you might consider fighting d-bus (ibm) tooMay 01 10:18
techrights-newsBest Free and Open Source Software – April 2022 Updates - LinuxLinks ⚓ https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-software-april-2022-updates/ ䷉ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSWMay 01 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Free and Open Source Software – April 2022 Updates - LinuxLinksMay 01 10:18
mateyhowever, if you get tired of libsystemdMay 01 10:18
bartoi've never heard of d-busMay 01 10:18
mateyi think you can switch to bsd and be rid of itMay 01 10:18
mateydevuan will keep... doing whatever they doMay 01 10:19
mateyi switched to devuan in 2015May 01 10:19
mateyused it for a while, even made my own distro based on itMay 01 10:19
mateygave up eventuallyMay 01 10:19
mateybut the way to fight all this is...May 01 10:19
mateyreplace stuff that sucks and is evil May 01 10:20
mateywith stuff that isntMay 01 10:20
mateyand then share knowledge of how to do thatMay 01 10:20
mateyso youre not the only person who knowsMay 01 10:20
mateythe more people who know, the more likely it is to get doneMay 01 10:20
bartoi wanna switch to a more free OS but i don't know anything about how gnu/linux or bsd worksMay 01 10:20
mateymayeb someday we can be github freeMay 01 10:20
matey but i don't know anything about how gnu/linux or bsd works <- spent about 10 years learningMay 01 10:20
mateybutMay 01 10:20
mateyi had a LONG list of things i wanted solved BEFORE i switchedMay 01 10:21
mateyyou dont need to spend 10 years learning first (also at the time, things were less advanced)May 01 10:21
mateyi started learning this stuff closer to 2000 than 2010May 01 10:21
mateysome things are easier, even now.May 01 10:21
mateyby 2007 things were pretty friendlyMay 01 10:22
mateystill friendly in 2013May 01 10:22
mateysystemd took over debian between 2014 and 2015May 01 10:22
mateymy advice to literally everyone isMay 01 10:22
techrights-news"And best of all: everyone who contributes to LibreOffice in the next four weeks can claim a cool sticker pack" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/05/01/the-month-of-libreoffice-may-2022-starts-today-join-in-and-get-snazzy-merch/May 01 10:22
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mateyget a second computer, even if its 5-10 years oldMay 01 10:22
mateyput something on it, and start trying itMay 01 10:22
mateyyou can also dual boot, but for some things thats really not practicalMay 01 10:23
bartoyeahMay 01 10:23
bartoi wouldn't dual bootMay 01 10:23
mateydual booting has gotten harder to doMay 01 10:23
techrights-news"Recent versions of Sailfish OS (currently 4.4.0.58) use a socket that listens on port 22, and start sshd (to be precise, a per-connection sshd@.service) when someone knocks." https://dt.iki.fi/sailfish-os-sshdMay 01 10:23
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mateynot accidentally eitherMay 01 10:23
techrights-newsChallenges of Creating a Decentralized, Open Source Twitter • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164356May 01 10:23
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mateyif all you wanted to do was try gnu/linuxMay 01 10:23
mateyendless os can install itself on your windows machineMay 01 10:23
mateybut its a really shitty locked down distroMay 01 10:24
bartoi already "tried" gnu/linuxMay 01 10:24
mateyuses flatpak to make gnu/linux more app-based, like androidMay 01 10:24
mateywhich distro?May 01 10:24
bartoi tried mint and gentooMay 01 10:24
bartobut on VMsMay 01 10:24
mateygentoo is hard, i dont have the patience for itMay 01 10:24
bartoyeahMay 01 10:24
bartoit isMay 01 10:24
bartobut i wanna learn gentooMay 01 10:24
mateythats coolMay 01 10:24
bartoit looks like a great distroMay 01 10:24
mateylearn itMay 01 10:24
mateyit will make you more powerfulMay 01 10:25
bartoi have a hard time understanding CFLAGSMay 01 10:25
mateythen you can use a large percentage of that knowledge anywhereMay 01 10:25
bartofor gentooMay 01 10:25
mateyyeah i dont know cflagsMay 01 10:25
bartoit's really hardMay 01 10:26
mateyive compiled bash and python2 on openbsdMay 01 10:26
bartoand gentoo compiles everything from sourceMay 01 10:26
mateybefore openbsd i would have never attempted such a thingMay 01 10:26
bartoso it might be time consumingMay 01 10:26
techrights-newsSculpt OS release 22.04 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164357May 01 10:26
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164358May 01 10:26
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bartotalking about bsdMay 01 10:27
techrights-newsAs we enter the month of May it becomes more apparent that Windows goes nowhere but down, even months after a new release/version http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/month-check-statcounter/May 01 10:27
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bartowhat do you think about the bsd licenseMay 01 10:27
barto?May 01 10:27
mateyits a complicated subjectMay 01 10:27
mateycopyleft is better in theory, and maybe in practiceMay 01 10:27
mateythere are lots of arguments to make for copyleftMay 01 10:28
mateythey dont apply to bsd, because bsd doesnt use themMay 01 10:28
mateyhoweverMay 01 10:28
mateyyou COULD fork openbsd and put it under gplMay 01 10:28
mateyit would really piss off theo de raadtMay 01 10:28
mateyand some bsd peopleMay 01 10:28
mateybut you could do itMay 01 10:28
mateymy interest in openbsd comes from hyperbolaMay 01 10:29
mateythe only bsd that could meet the requirements of the fsfMay 01 10:29
mateyi dont think we are ever going to have a really honest discussion of permissive vs copyleft because the camps have different ideas about itMay 01 10:30
mateyid like it to be treated like a scienceMay 01 10:30
mateyif copyleft REALLY makes people more freeMay 01 10:30
mateykeeps them more freeMay 01 10:30
mateythen its worth itMay 01 10:30
mateyeither way, the fsf is going to keep using itMay 01 10:30
mateyeven though linux is stuck at gpl2, they cant fix thatMay 01 10:30
mateywhile the openbsd kernel could be redone as gpl3May 01 10:30
mateyand eventually, like bsd itself-- May 01 10:31
mateyit woudl change to the point where it bore little resemblance to the version they forked fromMay 01 10:31
mateyand it woudlnt matter that some of the code is available under a permissive licenseMay 01 10:31
mateybut rms never recommends thisMay 01 10:31
mateyand hes never made a mistake. ever.May 01 10:31
mateyhes infallible.May 01 10:31
matey(but not really)May 01 10:31
mateylike i said, its complicated!May 01 10:32
mateyfor now, if you use gnu its copyletMay 01 10:32
mateyif you use bsd, its permissiveMay 01 10:32
mateythats the way it is (for now)May 01 10:32
mateybut thats not why i like bsd so muchMay 01 10:32
mateyits forkable, freedom 3 isnt theoretical. its actually happened in practiceMay 01 10:32
mateypeople fork bsd.May 01 10:32
mateyso we KNOW its forkableMay 01 10:32
mateygnu and linux are forkable in theoryMay 01 10:33
mateyi dont think it will happen though. and thats bad at this point.May 01 10:33
mateyid rather have a permissive freedom 3 in reality than a copyleft freedom 3 in my imaginationMay 01 10:34
mateybut i dont necessarily thing permissive vs copyleft is the only factor thereMay 01 10:34
mateybsd is designed wellMay 01 10:34
mateythats why its forkableMay 01 10:34
mateygnu doesnt give a shit about that.May 01 10:34
mateyit really doesntMay 01 10:34
mateya license along cant give freedom 3. the software has to be designed well enough that you can fork it.May 01 10:35
mateytheyve been forking puppy linux for years nowMay 01 10:36
mateyrefactoring woofceMay 01 10:36
mateyas a result, many just moved to antix instead May 01 10:37
bartoantix?May 01 10:38
mateyyeah, im not recommending itMay 01 10:38
mateyim just saying that if a project is too hard to forkMay 01 10:39
mateypeople will instead work on something that is easier or more worthwhileMay 01 10:39
mateypuppy (the scripts that create it) is forked butMay 01 10:39
mateytheyve spent years refactoringMay 01 10:39
mateyand its taken so long that people have started moving onMay 01 10:39
mateyand antix is like puppy used to be, in many waysMay 01 10:40
mateysadly both puppy and antix use github May 01 10:40
mateyi mean their developers keep the sources there and work on them thereMay 01 10:40
mateyMOST of the systemd-free distros use github May 01 10:41
bartothat's really unfortunateMay 01 10:41
mateytell me about itMay 01 10:41
mateyso when microsoft bought github, and my goals became twofoldMay 01 10:41
matey1. fight systemd 2. fight microsoftMay 01 10:41
mateyat that point it was inevitable that i would stop using gnu/linuxMay 01 10:41
mateybut i spent years making sure there wasnt some other wayMay 01 10:42
mateyif i was able to use gentoo, i might still be using itMay 01 10:42
mateyat some point i decided getting away from the linux kernel would nice too :)May 01 10:42
mateyi was sure openbsd wasnt "ready" yet so i waited a bunch of years before just trying itMay 01 10:43
mateyi tried freebsd, then netbsd, since i thought openbsd would be the most important-- but also the hardestMay 01 10:43
mateyi saved it for last, when i had more bsd experienceMay 01 10:43
mateyfreebsd wouldnt install properly on one laopMay 01 10:43
mateylaptop-- netbsd didnt eitherMay 01 10:44
mateyso i tried openbsd on it. not only did it work, it was a lot friendlier than i expectedMay 01 10:44
mateythere are definitely drawbacks. just not nearly as many as i expected.May 01 10:44
mateyi went in with low expectationsMay 01 10:44
mateyim a gnu/linux refugee. i expected squalor. May 01 10:45
mateygentoo is probably harder to use :)May 01 10:45
bartoprobablyMay 01 10:45
mateybut thats goodMay 01 10:45
mateyyou get good at gentoo, youll be powerfulMay 01 10:45
mateyi know its not difficult only for bullshit reasonsMay 01 10:46
mateyplus if lennart hates it, it cant be ALL bad May 01 10:46
bartolennart?May 01 10:46
mateyhe wrote systemdMay 01 10:46
bartoohMay 01 10:46
mateylennaret poetteringMay 01 10:46
bartoanother questionMay 01 10:46
bartowho's novellMay 01 10:46
mateylennartMay 01 10:46
mateynovell was a big companyMay 01 10:47
mateythey got bought, mostly by oracle i thinkMay 01 10:47
mateywikipedia has detailsMay 01 10:47
mateythey did a lot of business with microsoft before getting sold and split up May 01 10:47
mateybut i think oracle got most of itMay 01 10:47
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/novellMay 01 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Novell - WikipediaMay 01 10:48
bartolooking over it right nowMay 01 10:49
mateytechrights was called boycottnovell in 2008May 01 10:49
mateywhich im sure is why youre askingMay 01 10:49
mateyactually 2006, the irc starts in 2008May 01 10:49
bartoi'm asking because of the channel in the IRCMay 01 10:49
barto#boycottnovelMay 01 10:49
bartonovell*May 01 10:49
mateyyeahMay 01 10:49
mateytechrights used to be called boycottnovellMay 01 10:50
bartogood to knowMay 01 10:50
techrights-newsLinks 01/05/2022: FuguIta 7.1 and Consfigurator 1.0.0 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/fuguita-7-1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/01/fuguita-7-1/May 01 10:50
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techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164359May 01 10:50
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mateythe channel is sort of repurposed nowMay 01 10:50
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164360May 01 10:50
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mateyits not the actual topicMay 01 10:50
mateythese irc channels used to be on freenodeMay 01 10:51
mateybefore that went insane a year or so agoMay 01 10:51
mateymaybe lessMay 01 10:51
mateyso i guess it was already registered... and the name stuckMay 01 10:51
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D218.jpgMay 01 10:51
mateyits real purpose now, as a channelMay 01 10:52
mateyis that its not "here"May 01 10:52
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D575.jpgMay 01 10:52
mateyits "there"May 01 10:52
mateyso other stuff gets posted/said/discussed thereMay 01 10:52
techrights-newsMusings on processing malformed Gemini (and web) requests gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/30.1May 01 10:52
mateytechnically its just as public, but people pay it less attentionMay 01 10:53
techrights-newsFree Speech "I hestiated to even write this, but it needs said. I did tone it down just a bit, in the interest of legitimate dialogue." gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-04-30-free-speech.gmiMay 01 10:53
bartoi seeMay 01 10:54
techrights-news"It's interviews with tilde-verse people, mixed with short segments about science trivia, readings, and whatever. It's entertaining, and it's well produced too. I only listened to like one and a half of them so far, but I know I'll get back to it, because it's good." gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/joneworlds/tildewhirl.gmiMay 01 10:54
techrights-news"I like working with microcontrollers and other small systems. They provide constraints and constraints make all creative endeavors better. They define the space that can be filled so you can find solutions to filling it." gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/28.gmiMay 01 10:55
mateythey actually made an episode or more of #techbytes in the past year or soMay 01 10:55
mateyso the topic of #techbytes is still techbytesMay 01 10:55
mateythe techrights podcastMay 01 10:55
mateybut i think its mostly used as a pastebin.May 01 10:55
mateyand another side-channel for discussing... whateverMay 01 10:55
techrights-newsVideo Games and FOSS gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/game_licences.gmiMay 01 10:56
mateyboth are used as pastebins sometimesMay 01 10:56
bartoohMay 01 10:56
bartotechrights has a podcast?May 01 10:56
mateysometimesMay 01 10:56
techrights-newsReturning to Games after a Decade gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/game_return.gmiMay 01 10:56
mateyit was inactive for yearsMay 01 10:56
mateythen last year they did some new onesMay 01 10:56
mateyi dont know whether they still do or notMay 01 10:57
mateyfor all i know they might do a new one every month or couple weeksMay 01 10:57
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bartoi'll look into it laterMay 01 10:58
bartoalso have you read the gng thing i sent a couple of days ago?May 01 10:58
mateysome of itMay 01 10:59
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mateyi mean, im all for critcising the fsfMay 01 10:59
mateybut i think most of the criticism there is typical open source bsMay 01 10:59
mateyid rather deal with individual topics than a big mountain of crap that might have a point somewhereMay 01 10:59
mateythe website looks like a big mountain of crap to meMay 01 11:00
mateybut it might have a point somewhereMay 01 11:00
bartotrueMay 01 11:00
mateyi have a low opinion of the fsfMay 01 11:00
mateythey sold outMay 01 11:00
mateybut open source sold out 20 years earlierMay 01 11:00
mateyand the biggest problem the fsf has, is letting open source inMay 01 11:01
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mateyso open source isnt likely to impress me with THEIR critiques, which ive already been familiar with for 20 yearsMay 01 11:01
mateya lot of which are bsMay 01 11:01
mateyif i want open source bs i can get that from the fsf now :)May 01 11:01
bartoso is it worth supporting the FSF anymore?May 01 11:02
mateyi mean i dont think fraud should be rewarded with moneyMay 01 11:02
mateyand i think the fsf is a fraud nowMay 01 11:02
mateybut that doesnt mean open source is LESS of a fraudMay 01 11:02
mateyits the same scam that it always wasMay 01 11:02
mateyso i dont recommend supporting the fsfMay 01 11:02
mateywhen has throwing money at corruption ever made it better?May 01 11:03
mateysupport alternativesMay 01 11:03
matey(but not open source)May 01 11:03
bartoare there even alternatives to FSF?May 01 11:03
mateyit was a lot simpler when the fsf wasnt corruptMay 01 11:03
mateysort of?May 01 11:03
mateyjust one example, leah rowe is working on a federation for free softwareMay 01 11:03
mateyi think there will be more examplesMay 01 11:04
mateythe nice thing about a federation is its a way for those examples to work together sometimesMay 01 11:04
mateywithout all being assimilated or having to agree on everythingMay 01 11:04
mateyi think SOME things are very important to agree onMay 01 11:04
mateybut some disagreements we can have without abandoning the common goalMay 01 11:04
mateyfederation helps with thatMay 01 11:04
mateyfederation is also going to take a while to establishMay 01 11:05
mateyso far, its taken 5 years. but i dont know if leahs been working on it that long.May 01 11:05
mateythese are starting pointsMay 01 11:06
mateywhen there are real options, youll see them coming from starting points like theseMay 01 11:06
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mateygive money to projectsMay 01 11:06
mateythe orgs mostly suckMay 01 11:06
mateyof course, some projects will need an orgMay 01 11:06
mateylike openbsd has an org so they can take donatiosnMay 01 11:06
mateythats okayMay 01 11:07
mateyothers use sfcMay 01 11:07
mateyi would never support sfcMay 01 11:07
mateyif youre going to give money to sfc or the fsf, just give it to the fsfMay 01 11:07
mateyfuck kuhnMay 01 11:07
mateyi hope he kills himselfMay 01 11:07
bartosfc?May 01 11:08
mateysoftware freedom conservancyMay 01 11:08
bartowhat did kuhn do?May 01 11:09
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mateyhelped lead a coup against the fsfMay 01 11:10
mateyhttps://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/May 01 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement - Software Freedom ConservancyMay 01 11:11
mateythis didnt happen out of nowhereMay 01 11:11
bartodidn't he get a fsf free software award?May 01 11:11
mateyyes!May 01 11:11
mateythe fsf awards are batshitMay 01 11:11
mateysome good people got them too thoughMay 01 11:11
mateyi think lawrence lessig is one of the greatest people on earthMay 01 11:11
mateyhe got one... years agoMay 01 11:12
mateyawards are... you really cant count on themMay 01 11:12
mateythey tried to give henry kissenger a nobel PEACE PRIZEMay 01 11:12
mateyhe refusedMay 01 11:12
mateyi mean its ridiculousMay 01 11:13
mateyat least kissenger understood how ridiculous that would beMay 01 11:13
mateybut war criminals get peace prizes, its a thingMay 01 11:13
mateykuhn got a free software awardMay 01 11:14
mateyits a farceMay 01 11:14
mateyi wonder if theres a field that extends around it May 01 11:16
mateylike if reality itself actually bends around that thing, or whatMay 01 11:16
mateythats what bullshit ultimately doesMay 01 11:16
mateyit bends realityMay 01 11:16
mateysometimes it breaks thingsMay 01 11:17
mateyit also warps the people that use itMay 01 11:18
mateylike a spell that turns on the person who casts itMay 01 11:18
mateya little bullshit is like sugar, people eat it and usually dont dieMay 01 11:20
mateybut make a lifestyle out of it and youll be a fat idiot in his 40s that looks like penfold from dangermouseMay 01 11:20
mateymaybe thats too specificMay 01 11:20
bartololMay 01 11:20
mateyhe does look like penfold thoughMay 01 11:20
mateyi only presume hes in his 40sMay 01 11:20
bartolooks close enoughMay 01 11:21
mateyricky gervais said that ross kemp looks like zippy from rainbow :)May 01 11:23
bartonever heard of rainbowMay 01 11:24
bartoalsoMay 01 11:25
bartoopenRC < runit ?May 01 11:25
mateyi meanMay 01 11:25
mateyif your goal is to avoid github? definitelyMay 01 11:25
mateyshould that be a goal? hopefullyMay 01 11:25
mateybut thats the criteria that makes runit the better oneMay 01 11:26
mateythere may be other criteria that do the sameMay 01 11:26
mateyopenrc is github, rc.d (openbsd) is notMay 01 11:26
bartogentoo does have runit repositories but it's not fully supportedMay 01 11:26
mateyoh yeah, i meanMay 01 11:27
mateythats the thingMay 01 11:27
mateyyou can have no init at all.May 01 11:27
mateybut then things that need the init... youll have to do something else with thoseMay 01 11:27
mateyyou cant fix everything at the same timeMay 01 11:28
mateyso if init is too much trouble, use the default and fix it when you canMay 01 11:28
mateybut systemd is worth fightingMay 01 11:29
mateyif youre using anything else... its a start.May 01 11:29
mateyi wihs more people knew how much stuff is on githubMay 01 11:29
mateybecause if your init isnt, then 100 other things are.May 01 11:29
mateyits still worth fighting, but itll be years before we can be free of that shitMay 01 11:30
mateyits impossible to make every bug your highest priorityMay 01 11:30
mateyyou can triageMay 01 11:30
mateyi got tired of the linux kernelMay 01 11:31
mateyi found a way out of thatMay 01 11:31
mateyat the same time i found my way out of systemdMay 01 11:31
mateyopenbsd is (like many things) compiled with llvmMay 01 11:31
mateyguess where llvm is developed!May 01 11:31
mateydid i recompile everything with gcc? nopeMay 01 11:32
mateywould it be cool if someone did? yepMay 01 11:32
mateywould it still be ibm instead of microsoft?May 01 11:32
mateyyes. weve got a long fucking way to go.May 01 11:32
mateymicrosoft and ibm have set free software back a decade or twoMay 01 11:33
mateythanks, arseholesMay 01 11:33
barto:-(May 01 11:34
mateyehMay 01 11:34
mateywhen people figure out how bad it isMay 01 11:34
mateytheyll fight harderMay 01 11:34
mateybut the movement needs a rebootMay 01 11:35
mateytoo much apathyMay 01 11:35
activelowthe entire industry, wasted two decadesMay 01 11:35
mateyactivelow is fighting c++ :)May 01 11:35
mateyi think if nothing else, it sets a good example (im not fighting c++ yet)May 01 11:36
bartowhy fight c++?May 01 11:36
matey(i think, better c++ than rust)May 01 11:36
activelowif there was a fast and efficient c++ compilerMay 01 11:36
mateyyoud have to ask himMay 01 11:36
activelowsame with rustMay 01 11:36
mateybut i know part of it is that gcc requires c++ to compile c :)May 01 11:36
mateyand he thinks thats perverseMay 01 11:37
mateywhich it might beMay 01 11:37
activelowi consider rust merely yet another language frontend of the compilerMay 01 11:37
mateybut its notMay 01 11:37
activelowwrongMay 01 11:37
mateyrust is a pretend programming languageMay 01 11:37
mateywhich is so unstable that its basically cloud-basedMay 01 11:37
mateyc++ is not like thatMay 01 11:38
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mateyi would like to know how important boost is thoughMay 01 11:38
mateyto the c++ ecosystemMay 01 11:39
activelowmajor products rely on boost, such as LibreOffice, QT4/5May 01 11:40
mateythere you goMay 01 11:40
mateyso boost of course, is github based May 01 11:40
mateybut so is libreofficeMay 01 11:40
mateyand qt is self-hostedMay 01 11:40
mateybut at least it needs libffi, libpng and boostMay 01 11:40
mateyall of which are github depsMay 01 11:41
matey http://techrights.org/wiki/Ted_MacReilly_Handbook_Revisited:_Chapter_8May 01 11:43
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matey "The plan has never actually changed, but our way of framing it has changed entirely. We de-commoditize protocols. We add features we want and deprecate ones that people rely on, and we tell them to get with the program. We create the same kind of lock-in (in practice) by decreasing the compatibility with trusted development tools and utilities, so we can move more quickly (and drag users along) from one industry fad to another."May 01 11:43
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SomeH4x0rhiMay 01 11:47
cameron1👋 wassup SomeH4x0rMay 01 11:47
bartogreetingsMay 01 11:47
mateyo/May 01 11:47
SomeH4x0rmatey: on Qt: iirc they at some point closed stuff behiind a paywallMay 01 11:47
SomeH4x0rno idea if just binaries or source code as wellMay 01 11:48
mateylolMay 01 11:48
mateywell the sooner qt dies the betterMay 01 11:48
mateymaybe IT will get forkedMay 01 11:48
mateyeither way i dont recommend kde to anyoneMay 01 11:48
mateybut qt is more than just kdeMay 01 11:48
SomeH4x0rbarto: btw, Uplink is written in C++ and no idea if it would work on OpenBSD. Perhaps it will if there is some compatibility thing.May 01 11:52
mateyactivelow is the one at war with c++May 01 11:52
mateyi still think its better than rustMay 01 11:53
SomeH4x0rdeathcamel57 disappeared at some point, and then he came back for a day saying he is busy with other stuffMay 01 11:53
mateythough id love to be read of boost :)May 01 11:53
mateyrid ofMay 01 11:53
SomeH4x0rno idea if he will continue working on UplinkMay 01 11:53
activelowmatey: i am not at war with c++, i retreated from itMay 01 11:53
mateythats a fair distinctionMay 01 11:53
mateybut its also a quibbleMay 01 11:54
matey/me has seen enough of uplink to think you could do similar with pygame and enough interest in creating a similar gameMay 01 11:55
activelowany version later than gtk-2.6 (year 2005) is not acceptable; couldn't confirm yet if a re-integration of the older version is possibleMay 01 11:56
mateygtk-2.6 makes unicode optional or something?May 01 11:56
activelowthe dependency graph of GTK2/3 are chaoticMay 01 11:57
activelowfor gtk-2.6 an older pango version suffices, without harfbuzzMay 01 11:57
mateyi criticise some of activelows decisionsMay 01 11:57
activelownot sure how this affects unicode; although unicode font rendering does not require harfbuzzMay 01 11:58
mateybut his research sets a very useful example, whether you agree with each individual decision or notMay 01 11:58
mateyhes also using gentoo to do all thisMay 01 11:58
activelowideally i could ditch gentoo tooling, or make it optional... because i do not appreciate the heavy python dependencies of their portage build systemMay 01 11:59
activelownonetheless, the dependency tracking with gentoo is superbMay 01 11:59
mateyi do not appreciate the heavy python dependencies <- yeah thats roughMay 01 12:00
activelowyet, it would be preferrable, if a system could be maintained without it, with a clean and simple dependency graph of componentsMay 01 12:00
activelowmatey: python is ok; i am sceptical it is attached to the build systemMay 01 12:00
matey/me wishes there was a very lightweight fork of python... with python2 stringsMay 01 12:00
mateypython is ok <- python 3 isnt even a languageMay 01 12:01
mateyits another webapiMay 01 12:01
activelowi want to remove python from the build-time dependencies, not run-timeMay 01 12:01
activelowin comparison, i want to remove c++ as both build-time dependency _and_ from runtimeMay 01 12:02
activelowc++ is far worse, btw., in conjunction with python/swig, which is written in c++, and python/swig is required to compile u-boot loader <- ouch.May 01 12:02
mateyFreedom 3: The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements (and modified versions in general) to the public, so that the whole community benefits.May 01 12:04
mateyhow anyone is supposed to modify any of thisMay 01 12:04
mateywhen its all becoming a giant ball of interdependent nonsenseMay 01 12:05
mateyits funny, because the entire ecosystemd has basically turned into the fucking european unionMay 01 12:06
matey/me cant even say ecosystem without adding d ffsMay 01 12:07
mateyif the gpl is viral, github is a bioweaponMay 01 12:08
techrights-newsAntónio Campinos Has Dubbed Himself the “F***ing President” | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/antonio-f-campinos/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/01/antonio-f-campinos/May 01 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | António Campinos Has Dubbed Himself the “F***ing President” | TechrightsMay 01 12:11
activelowGPL without guarding standards is dangerousMay 01 12:12
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techrights-newsDRM in action https://gamerant.com/playstation-classic-games-not-working-ps3-ps-vita/May 01 13:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gamerant.com | Fans Claim PlayStation Classic Titles Are Now UnplayableMay 01 13:13
techrights-newsDRM means that people with unauthorised copies get better value and better experience than those who pay https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/ps3-and-ps-vita-virtual-games-experiencing-unplayable-expired-error-3201648May 01 13:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nme.com | PS3 and PS Vita virtual games experiencing unplayable "expired" errorMay 01 13:13
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows kills https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-exchange-servers-hacked-to-deploy-hive-ransomware/May 01 13:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft Exchange servers hacked to deploy Hive ransomwareMay 01 13:14
techrights-newsThis is very good because it'll teach people to avoid DRM like the plague. Even some companies will avoid it. https://knowtechie.com/some-video-games-are-suddenly-expiring-on-ps3-and-vita-consoles/May 01 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowtechie.com | Some video games are suddenly ‘expiring’ on PS3 and Vita consolesMay 01 13:16
techrights-newsHands-On with Arch Linux’s New Menu-Based Installer • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164361May 01 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with Arch Linux’s New Menu-Based Installer | Tux MachinesMay 01 13:17
techrights-newsGraft. Taking from taxpayers to subsidise (at a COLOSSAL loss) companies that in turn oppress the taxpayers. https://swarajyamag.com/analysis/the-role-of-state-funded-agency-darpa-in-growth-of-us-semiconductor-industry-and-lessons-for-india bankrupting a nation...May 01 13:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-swarajyamag.com | The Role Of State-Funded Agency DARPA In Growth Of U.S Semiconductor Industry And Lessons For IndiaMay 01 13:20
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techrights-news"Debian Escobar was missing for a long time, her parents found her everywhere, but she could not be found anywhere." Debian??? https://getindianews.com/debanhi-escobar-found-dead/May 01 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-getindianews.com | Who Was DEBANHI ESCOBAR And What Was His Cause Of Death? Woman Found Dead In MexicoMay 01 13:34
techrights-newsWhat is "Debian Perl"? "Katie Longua is a self-published comic artist and co-creator of Debian Perl" https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/anime-news/2022/04/25-1/exclusive-unico-awakening-kickstarter-reveals-special-reward-prints-from-renowned-artistsMay 01 13:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Crunchyroll - EXCLUSIVE: UNICO: AWAKENING Kickstarter Reveals Special Reward Prints from Renowned ArtistsMay 01 13:36
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techrights-newsMaven, Gradle And More: #HowTo Choose Between Package Managers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164362May 01 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Maven, Gradle And More: How To Choose Between Package Managers | Tux MachinesMay 01 13:48
techrights-news“Debian, I lend you my voice” https://www.bolnews.com/international/2022/04/students-death-stokes-anger-over-mexican-femicide-crisis/May 01 13:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bolnews.com | Student's death stokes anger over Mexican femicide crisisMay 01 13:50
techrights-newsLOL! Enjoy. https://voonze.com/up-to-40-minutes-to-boot-windows-11/May 01 13:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voonze.com | Up to 40 minutes to boot Windows 11? - How smart Technology changing livesMay 01 13:53
techrights-newsBut why does EFF never promote GNU/Linux? https://www.eff.org/event/eff-scale-19xMay 01 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF at SCaLE 19x | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 01 13:57
techrights-newsAs if Obama himself spoke truth to his people. Arrogance and Hubris. Heck, he was stonewalling for the Saudi regime, obstructing families of 9/11 casualties. https://www.rappler.com/technology/features/full-text-barack-obama-digital-disinformation-challenges-democracy/May 01 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rappler.com | FULL TEXT: Barack Obama on digital disinformation and its challenges to democracyMay 01 13:59
techrights-newsSamsung spam or puff piece? Government does PR for private sector: "Sponsored by the Ministry of Employment and Labor, SSAFY is a corporate social responsibility program launched by Samsung to expand the domestic" https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/327896.html?goshMay 01 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.koreatimes.co.kr | Samsung continues to foster homegrown software developers - The Korea TimesMay 01 14:00
techrights-newsTop 10 Websites to Learn Python for Free in 2022 https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-websites-to-learn-python-for-free-in-2022/May 01 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.analyticsinsight.net | Top 10 Websites to Learn Python for Free in 2022May 01 14:00
techrights-newsThere has never been a better time to leave behind the medium which — even in its lesser-centralised forms — wastes time and impacts what people read and write (not for the better) http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/social-control-media-implosion/May 01 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Don’t Become or Remain a Slave of Elon Musk (Social Control Media is Still a Bubble) | TechrightsMay 01 14:02
techrights-newsWe continue to explore the affairs of the Belarusian ‘science park’ in Minsk, where EPO President Benoît Battistelli sent parts of the EPO (while António Campinos pretends that the EPO is cutting relations with Belarus) http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/htp-peaceful-coexistence/May 01 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | From Belarus With Love — Part IX: The End of “Peaceful Coexistence”? | TechrightsMay 01 14:02
techrights-newsAs revealed days ago, António Campinos ought not be known for manners (the quotes above are from him, the EPO‘s President who wants his term extended so he can carry on defacing the EPO's site with lies and incitement to break the law) http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/antonio-f-campinos/May 01 14:02
techrights-newsGemini as an excuse to make toys again gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/18.gmiMay 01 14:04
techrights-news"I had Kubuntu 21.10 installed with snaps disabled. Decided to run an update to Kubuntu 22.04. I'm on "normal" track, so this is for non-LTS version." gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/blog-2022-05-01-Fixing-DNS-issues-in-Kubuntu-22.04.gmiMay 01 14:04
techrights-newsDigital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/24/cnn-plus-what-went-wrong-why-it-was-canceled.htmlMay 01 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | CNN+: What went wrong and why it was canceledMay 01 14:14
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techrights-newsExample of webspam in 'article' clothing, spiced up with buzzwords https://www.analyticsinsight.net/improve-your-business-growth-with-these-top-big-data-companies/May 01 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.analyticsinsight.net | Improve Your Business Growth with These Top Big Data CompaniesMay 01 14:15
techrights-newsThoughts and prayers https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/former-bremerton-football-coach-who-lost-job-postgame-prayers-takes-case-supreme-court/V7TBOKHOPNAVVMW4HNX32OU5FA/May 01 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kiro7.com | Former Bremerton football coach who lost job for postgame prayers takes case to Supreme Court – KIRO 7 News SeattleMay 01 14:16
techrights-newsICBM Red Hat speaks of "clown" and malarkey. Companies do this when they lack technical edge, so executives overcompensate with shallow marketing. https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/04/b26785764/red-hat-expands-capabilities-to-provide-streamlined-application-development-and-delivery-in-the-clMay 01 14:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Expands Capabilities to Provide Streamlined Application Development and Delivery in the Cloud - BenzingaMay 01 14:18
techrights-newsA 4-year degree isn’t the job requirement it used to be | The Seattle Times ⚓ https://www.seattletimes.com/explore/careers/a-4-year-degree-isnt-the-job-requirement-it-used-to-be/ ䷉ Source: seattletimes (NYTimes article reposted by Bill Gates-bribed outlet)May 01 14:20
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techrights-newsSalesforce webspam https://fundraising.co.uk/2022/04/25/salesforce-reaches-half-a-billion-dollars-in-all-time-giving/ Salesforce profits from crimes against humanity http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/May 01 14:22
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techrights-news"I’ve noticed that there are two types of students in this world when it comes to choosing courses: those who enroll for an easy A and those who take a class because it’s interesting. Both factors, easiness and interest, are subjective." https://emorywheel.com/emory-must-prioritize-undergraduate-teaching-instead-of-pure-research/May 01 14:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-emorywheel.com | Emory must prioritize undergraduate teaching instead of pure research | The Emory WheelMay 01 14:24
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techrights-news"China exported surveillance tech to Serbia. Did it export authoritarianism too?" https://www.ft.com/content/ad8fa1ce-247b-48b7-a17a-87a368186c31 FT, did you take bribe from Bill Gates? (You did.) To help reputation laundering of Jeffrey Epstein's enabler?May 01 14:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | US-China Tech Race: brave new world | Financial TimesMay 01 14:25
techrights-newsThey mean server. And it's not "now"; it has been like this for decades (predating dumb buzzwords) https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/cloud-is-now-fundamental-backbone-of-any-enterprise-says-hcl-tech-cto clown computing = lexicon of the misinformed or the dishonest marketeerMay 01 14:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | Cloud is now fundamental backbone of any enterprise, says HCL Tech CTOMay 01 14:27
techrights-news"Greener Purchasing"!!! GREEEEEEEN !!! CONSUMERISM is GOOD... for the planet! BUY MORE! Save the world. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220427005600/en/Office-Depot-Celebrates-Organizations-for-Their-Leadership-in-Greener-PurchasingMay 01 14:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Office Depot Celebrates Organizations for Their Leadership in Greener Purchasing | Business WireMay 01 14:28
techrights-newsMost households don't have "Macs" and other Apple stuff; this ought not be enabled by default https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/qnap-warns-users-to-disable-afp-until-it-fixes-critical-bugs/May 01 14:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | QNAP warns users to disable AFP until it fixes critical bugsMay 01 14:29
techrights-newsIt's not up to you. Ask Monica Lewinsky https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crossroads-lab/article260177445.htmlMay 01 14:31
techrights-newsTrying to FORCE people to think of you positively is hallmark of autocracy, like Putin in Russia...May 01 14:32
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techrights-newsPutin: In Russia, only foreign agents oppose me. Or: In Russia, everyone who opposes Putin gets labeled "foreign agent".May 01 14:33
techrights-newsMicrosoft: people who call out our crimes are "Microsoft haters"May 01 14:34
techrights-news"Following a dolphin attack on a Miami Seaquarium trainer, the ethics of keeping animals captive at marine parks and aquariums comes into question" https://plantbasednews.org/opinion/opinion-piece/dolphin-attack-miami-animals-captivity/May 01 14:36
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techrights-news"The base has not been operational since 2020 because of the Covid-19 pandemic, but the museum has been left unlocked for curious individual visitors." https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/business/work/antarctic-post-office-job-ad-details-unique-working-conditions/news-story/bfe1b2634991db6d5ef46b43a2c6a7b9May 01 14:37
techrights-newsThere are more people still using Windows XP than users of Vista 11. They should migrate to GNU/Linux on the same hardware. https://www.trustedreviews.com/explainer/why-you-need-to-keep-your-operating-system-up-to-date-4227163May 01 14:42
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techrights-news"GNU/Linux operating systems handle lifecycle in a variety of ways, from from “rolling release” distributions like Arch, which don’t have a formal release lifecycle but instead release small incremental updates, to “long-term support” (LTS) versions." https://www.trustedreviews.com/explainer/why-you-need-to-keep-your-operating-system-up-to-date-4227163May 01 14:42
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techrights-newsHe should APOLOGISE to them, not just pardon them https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3619191/sisi-pardons-more-3000-egyptian-inmatesMay 01 14:43
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: aawsat.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3619191/sisi-pardons-more-3000-egyptian-inmates https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3619191/sisi-pardons-more-3000-egyptian-inmatesMay 01 14:43
techrights-news"Ubuntu and other GNU/Linux distributions." https://liliputing.com/2022/04/chuwi-rzbox-2022-mini-pc-with-ryzen-7-5800h-coming-soon.html but does Chuwi still pre-install Microsoft's malware? If not, then this is progress.May 01 14:46
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techrights-newsThis Privacy-Focused Phone Doesn’t Have Gulag Services http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163909#comment-33509May 01 14:49
techrights-newsICBM and Microsoft will pass out seeing this job ad. Or not... they're just concern-trolling the communities they're attacking, by asserting "MASTER" is racist https://it-online.co.za/2022/04/26/developer-python-master-at-parvana-recruitment-7/May 01 14:50
techrights-news"May 1995 Sun releases Java, a programming language intended to let programmers “write once, run everywhere.” It was originally developed by James Gosling and others at Sun to allow interactive applications to be downloaded to digital cable television boxes." https://www.forbes.com/sites/gilpress/2022/04/26/modern-computing-a-short-history-1945-2022/May 01 14:51
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: forbes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/gilpress/2022/04/26/modern-computing-a-short-history-1945-2022/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.forbes.com/sites/gilpress/2022/04/26/modern-computing-a-short-history-1945-2022/May 01 14:51
techrights-newsIn the Battle Over the Right to Repair, Open-Source Tractors Offer an Alternative | Civil Eats ⚓ https://civileats.com/2022/04/27/right-to-repair-open-source-tractors-john-deere-oggun-farms-profitability-technology/ ䷉ Source: civileatsMay 01 14:53
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▃▃▂▃▄▅▂▃▂▃▂▄▆▅▅▄▅▄▄▅▁▂▁▁▅▂▃▄▃▆▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 16.16 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁█▃▁▂▁▂▁▁▁█▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▄▅▁█▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 77.38▕ swarm size (avg): 277.08  ⟲May 01 14:59
techrights-newsAggression, ’White’ Lies and Mass Deception Won’t Help the EPO Survive | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/epo-cant-survive-like-this/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/01/epo-cant-survive-like-this/May 01 15:00
techrights-newsGitHub Isn’t Git But an Attack on Git (Just Like WSL is an Attack on GNU/Linux) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/github-stockholm-syndrome/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/01/github-stockholm-syndrome/May 01 15:27
techrights-newsIf the EPO is a Corporation, Why Can’t I Buy EPO Shares in Wall Street or Take It to Court? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/epo-corporation/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/01/epo-corporation/May 01 15:50
techrights-newsFakecoins??? https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/what-major-sports-are-paying-athletes-in-crypto-2811919May 01 15:56
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: investing.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/what-major-sports-are-paying-athletes-in-crypto-2811919 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/what-major-sports-are-paying-athletes-in-crypto-2811919May 01 15:56
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techrights-newsSupport for proprietary Apple file system https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/qnap-advises-to-mitigate-remote-hacking.htmlMay 01 15:57
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techrights-news"Sponsored Feature" and "Sponsored by Intel" so Timothy Prickett Morgan not only takes ICBM bribes for his ICBM (IBM) puff pieces. This is ongoing corruption of the media, turning the Web into webSPAM. https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/04/28/the-hyperscalers-point-the-way-to-integrated-ai-stacks/May 01 15:59
techrights-newsMost [number] best [something] 'articles' on the Web are paid-for SPAM.May 01 15:59
techrights-newsMost households don't have "Macs" and other Apple stuff; this ought not be enabled by default https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/04/29/nas-devices-vulnerabilities/May 01 16:00
techrights-newsMOST of what the "media" recently called "Linux" flaw was actually systemd. And the flaw was not severe. That helped distract from MANY Microsoft ZERO-DAY flaws that were CRITICAL and ACTIVELY exploited.May 01 16:01
techrights-newsCorrupt media shilling Windows stuff, employing Microsoft media operatives, too. "CEO Jimmy Tam spoke to B&F about his US-based company..." (yeah, puff piece in 'interview' clothing) https://blocksandfiles.com/2022/04/29/peer-software-replication-spawning-more-features/May 01 16:03
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techrights-newsJob WEBSPAM disguised as "article" with misleading headline https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-python-developer-jobs-coders-should-apply-for-in-may-2022/May 01 16:11
techrights-newsWhile the assertion here may be true, it's sad they quote a Microsoft proxy (Microsoft puts back doors in things and then uses this proxy to deflect/pass blame to "Open Source") Cybersecurity skills shortage not only continues to give C-level executives migraine but also links to many breaches, Fortinet’s recent report found. May 01 16:13
techrights-newsWhile the assertion here may be true, it's sad they quote a Microsoft proxy (Microsoft puts back doors in things and then uses this proxy to deflect/pass blame to "Open Source") https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/fortinet-80-of-breaches-attributed-to-cybersecurity-skills-gap/2022/04/May 01 16:14
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77May 01 16:15
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/04/26/quantum-ransomware/May 01 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Meteoric attack deploys Quantum ransomware in mere hours - Help Net SecurityMay 01 16:17
techrights-newsSo-called "fitness tracker"... mass surveillance propr disguised as "health" and "safety" https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/apr/30/michael-horvath-strava-co-founder-profileMay 01 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Michael Horvath: the Strava co-founder who’s pacing himself | Technology sector | The GuardianMay 01 16:19
techrights-newsIBMer who died https://www.livemint.com/news/india/immigrant-from-india-headed-us-software-firms-11651296202674.htmlMay 01 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livemint.com | Immigrant From India Headed Us Software Firms | MintMay 01 16:20
techrights-news"He signed on as employee No. 17 at what became the software giant Oracle Corp. He launched his own software company, Gupta Technologies Inc., in 1984. Initially successful, that business floundered in the mid-1990s as Oracle and Microsoft Corp. muscled into its niche." https://www.livemint.com/news/india/immigrant-from-india-headed-us-software-firms-11651296202674.htmlMay 01 16:21
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techrights-newsAccording to statcounter, GNU/Linux has higher share than Apple in Poland, not even counting Android as "Linux"May 01 16:26
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▇▃▁▂▆▆▅▆▂▄▆▇▅▃▆▇▁▅▁▅▄▂▃▃▅▃▄▂▆▂▅▅▄▆▁ avg(k/sec) 21.43 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃█▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁█▂█▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂█▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 69.05▕ swarm size (avg): 328.65  ⟲May 01 16:59
techrights-newsJim Zemlin defends Microsoft from actual users of GNU/Linux (not him!) instead of defending us from Microsoft and its crimes. To these people who speak of "Code of Conduct", crime is the thing to defend and people who oppose crimes should be punished.May 01 17:37
MinceR(cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/weekend-random-randomness-4-24-22-14.jpgMay 01 17:38
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/weekend-random-randomness-4-24-22-14.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/weekend-random-randomness-4-24-22-14.jpgMay 01 17:38
techrights-news: The EPO has rebranded job titles/roles as if it is a private company and the EU agrees; what on Earth is going on here? Is the EPO an investment bank? http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/epo-corporation/May 01 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If the EPO is a Corporation, Why Can’t I Buy EPO Shares in Wall Street or Take It to Court? | TechrightsMay 01 17:43
techrights-newsReminder that any time you tell developers and projects to delete GitHub (and use something free, instead) you are helping Software Freedom, even if users and development groups are hesistant and apprehensive, unwilling to leave, certainly at first (Stockholm Syndrome) http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/github-stockholm-syndrome/May 01 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub Isn’t Git But an Attack on Git (Just Like WSL is an Attack on GNU/Linux) | TechrightsMay 01 17:43
techrights-newsThe management style in Europe’s second-largest institution (and largest patent office) has already resulted in a mass exodus or brain drain; at this point the EPO cannot recruit highly-skilled staff which meets the standards set by the EPC and patents are being granted in violation of the EPC http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/epo-cant-survive-like-this/May 01 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Aggression, ‘White’ Lies and Mass Deception Won’t Help the EPO Survive | TechrightsMay 01 17:44
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164363May 01 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 01 17:46
techrights-newsKerala, so I assume this is Free/libre software https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/kozhikode/ults-to-update-kozhikode-corporations-suvega-software/article65353306.eceMay 01 17:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindu.com | ULTS to update Kozhikode Corporation’s Suvega software - The HinduMay 01 17:48
techrights-newsBitwarden Review: The Best Free Password Manager for 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164364May 01 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bitwarden Review: The Best Free Password Manager for 2022 | Tux MachinesMay 01 17:49
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techrights-newsSpotify Pays for Free Software 1,000 Less Than It Paid Rogan http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164273#comment-33510May 01 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Spotify FOSS Fund | Tux MachinesMay 01 17:51
techrights-newsBloomberg and Bezos: US has no people who are smart, so we need to import cheap labour https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/america-must-workharder-for-homegrown-talent/2022/05/01/75a6bcf2-c94f-11ec-b7ee-74f09d827ca6_story.htmlMay 01 17:51
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: washingtonpost.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/america-must-workharder-for-homegrown-talent/2022/05/01/75a6bcf2-c94f-11ec-b7ee-74f09d827ca6_story.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/america-must-workharder-for-homegrown-talent/2022/05/01/75a6bcf2-c94f-11ec-b7ee-74f09d827ca6_story.htmlMay 01 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | America Must Work Harder for Homegrown Talent - The Washington PostMay 01 17:51
techrights-newsIt's easy to oppose war crime when you never hold yourself accountable (for example, see Jim Zemlin Syndrome) https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3622241/us-condemns-tadamon-massacre-syria-demands-accountabilityMay 01 17:53
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: aawsat.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3622241/us-condemns-tadamon-massacre-syria-demands-accountability https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3622241/us-condemns-tadamon-massacre-syria-demands-accountabilityMay 01 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.aawsat.com | US Condemns Tadamon Massacre In Syria, Demands Accountability | Asharq AL-awsatMay 01 17:53
techrights-newsUS demands accountability for war crimes ~= Linux Foundation subjects people to Code of Conduct while taking bribes from criminals to shield those criminals from their critics. http://techrights.org/2022/04/15/code-of-conduct-in-action/May 01 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Does Not Want You to See How a ‘Code of Conduct’ is Actually Enforced at Its Events | TechrightsMay 01 17:54
bnchsi'm testing cloudflare detection with phIRCe in #bnchs-testMay 01 17:55
techrights-news"Supposedly to protect the citizenry and the state from unscrupulous swindlers and outright fraudsters, this vast machinery of impediments makes doing business in India nothing short of a nightmare." https://www.livemint.com/opinion/online-views/we-need-freedom-from-the-grip-of-regulations-and-compliances-11650903529758.htmlMay 01 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livemint.com | Free India From The Grip Of Regulations And Compliances | MintMay 01 17:57
techrights-newsUkraine has become a CATCH-ALL EXCUSE for all industries, not just the energy sector that now plunders BILLIONS of human beings every day https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/roche-delays-dmd-drug-deadline-while-trying-prevent-ms-trials-becoming-casualty-ukraine-warMay 01 17:58
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: fiercebiotech.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/roche-delays-dmd-drug-deadline-while-trying-prevent-ms-trials-becoming-casualty-ukraine-war https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/roche-delays-dmd-drug-deadline-while-trying-prevent-ms-trials-becoming-casualty-ukraine-warMay 01 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercebiotech.com | Roche delays DMD drug, amends MS trials in face of Ukraine warMay 01 17:58
techrights-newsI saw people moving from Microsoft to other companies, so engaging in criminal activities does not prevent you from going into companies to carry on with the crimes https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crossroads-lab/article260177445.htmlMay 01 17:59
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mateybnchs  │ i'm testing cloudflare detection with phIRCe in #bnchs-testMay 01 18:06
mateyciikMay 01 18:06
mateycoolMay 01 18:06
mateynot anymore i guessMay 01 18:07
matey(matey = #bnchs-tes): @mateyMay 01 18:07
mateyoh, duhMay 01 18:07
matey/me joins #bnchs-test not just "#bnchs-tes"May 01 18:08
mateyhttp://techrights.org/irc-channel/May 01 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | TechrightsMay 01 18:10
matey(wrong channel)May 01 18:10
mateyill get the hang of itMay 01 18:10
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164365May 01 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 01 18:11
techrights-newsPlamo 7.4 is out https://www.plamolinux.org/posts/2022-04-30-plamo-7.4-release/ Slackware derivative from Japan.May 01 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.plamolinux.org | Plamo 7.4 リリース - Plamo LinuxMay 01 18:12
matey/me eats another chili and wakes upMay 01 18:12
*psydruid wonders if matey has been sabotaged from the insideMay 01 18:15
mateyno, its only a thai oneMay 01 18:15
mateysabotage requires ghost peppers or (higher scale) scotch bonnets May 01 18:15
psydruidit's good to hear that the harfbuzz boys didn't come out to get youMay 01 18:16
matey/me may have just broken part of a tooth thoughMay 01 18:16
mateynot as bad as it sounds, brbMay 01 18:16
techrights-newsFakeCoins https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2022/04/27/edward-snowden-revealed-as-key-participant-in-mysterious-ceremony-creating-2-billion-anonymous-cryptocurrency/May 01 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Edward Snowden Revealed As Key Participant In Mysterious Ceremony Creating $2 Billion Anonymous CryptocurrencyMay 01 18:17
techrights-newsTwo aggressive companies which infiltrated the board of the so-called "Linux" Foundation whilst attacking LINUX ITSELF https://www.ericsson.com/en/blog/2022/4/ericsson-and-vmware-expand-their-collaboration--curious-to-find-out-moreMay 01 18:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ericsson and VMware expand their collaboration - EricssonMay 01 18:17
mateyjust a seedMay 01 18:18
mateyive got this tooth, its no problem, you cant see itMay 01 18:18
techrights-newsExTiX Mini Build 220501 with LXQt and kernel 5.17.2 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164366May 01 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ExTiX Mini Build 220501 with LXQt and kernel 5.17.2 | Tux MachinesMay 01 18:19
mateyid explain more but it isnt necessaryMay 01 18:19
mateyall the front ones are fineMay 01 18:19
techrights-newsProprietary software should not be permitted in medical devices https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/04/w26866488/blackberry-strengthens-medical-device-software-portfolio-with-qnx-hypervisor-2-2-for-safetyMay 01 18:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BlackBerry Strengthens Medical Device Software Portfolio with QNX Hypervisor 2.2 for Safety - BenzingaMay 01 18:21
techrights-newsBrains On Code: EU funding in the millions for pioneering research on brain activity during program comprehension https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/950837May 01 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurekalert.org | Brains On Code: EU funding in the millions fo | EurekAlert!May 01 18:21
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MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/weekend-random-randomness-4-24-22-13.jpgMay 01 18:22
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techrights-newsEducation Budgets Begin Movement in Legislature (Michigan Education Association) https://mea.org/education-budgets-begin-movement-in-legislature/ "Governor recommended a $18.4 billion plan for PK-12 schools for the coming year" (a drop in the bucket compared to war budget)May 01 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mea.org | Education Budgets Begin Movement in Legislature - Michigan Education AssociationMay 01 18:26
techrights-newsFake currency in fake privacy "App" (you are the product) https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/telegram-crypto-paymentsMay 01 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Telegram now supports Toncoin crypto payments - ProtocolMay 01 18:27
techrights-newsQuit calling fakecoins "Crypto"; that has nothing to do with cryptology, it's just a cryptic scheme designed to entice fools to pump REAL money into it, based on FOMO tactics https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-advocate-mounts-challenge-to-longtime-silicon-valley-congresswomanMay 01 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cointelegraph.com | Crypto advocate mounts challenge to longtime Silicon Valley CongresswomanMay 01 18:29
techrights-newsNasdaq also helps promote schemes and scams on the WWW https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/crypto-may-be-coming-to-your-401k-heres-what-to-know-nowMay 01 18:29
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techrights-news2008: OK, the economic systems are collapsing. Are you SURE you want a pension? 2022: OK, those of you who survived COVID-19, how about if you get paid in speculative scheme money instead?May 01 18:31
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mateydancing in a debian logo of candles https://yewtu.be/watch?v=svWINSRhQU0May 01 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Police - Wrapped Around Your Finger - InvidiousMay 01 18:33
techrights-newsThe rise of fakecoin seems to be a symptom or side effect of disinformation thriving on the WWW and social control mediaMay 01 18:34
matey"ill be wrapped around your finger, ill be wrapped around your finger"May 01 18:35
techrights-newsLOL!! Companies comparing their performance now to LOCK-DOWNS. To fake "growth" or "recovery". It's like comparing deathbed in hospital to the same at home.May 01 18:36
matey"mephistopheles is not your name, i know what youre up to just the same"May 01 18:36
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matey/me really just wanted to hear the awesome guitar riffMay 01 18:37
techrights-newsThe first paragraph is all lies. They just recovered from LOCK-DOWNS. They still do badly. This whole sector is like t he airline "industry" https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220426006317/en/Mercedes-Benz-Q1-Profit-Rises-as-Pricing-Power-and-Resilience-Offset-HeadwindsMay 01 18:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Mercedes-Benz Q1 Profit Rises as Pricing Power and Resilience Offset Headwinds | Business WireMay 01 18:37
mateyive never seen the video, its a bonusMay 01 18:37
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mateyooh, he knocks all the candles downMay 01 18:38
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mateyat one point sting wanted to get into acting, and his songs and videos got really dramaticMay 01 18:38
mateythe band was like *eyeroll* whateverMay 01 18:38
DaemonFCThe price of coffee has gone up 40% this year.May 01 18:38
mateyas long as its not king of pain. they fucking hate that oneMay 01 18:38
DaemonFC"What inflation?"May 01 18:39
matey/me bought 900k of tea for less than $20, is set for a whileMay 01 18:39
mateyGOOD teaMay 01 18:39
techrights-newsMicrosoft proxy Black Duck puts its FUD in more and more site, including sponsored spam https://www.supplychainbrain.com/blogs/1-think-tank/post/34847-building-security-into-your-digital-supply-chain who are they? See http://techrights.org/wiki/Black_DuckMay 01 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building Security Into Your Digital Supply Chain | SupplyChainBrainMay 01 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Black Duck - TechrightsMay 01 18:39
DaemonFCSo I've decided to go back to those "K-Cup" machines just because I had a spare "My K-Cup" pod and it works with a generic single serve brewer I found really cheap.May 01 18:39
DaemonFCSo I can avoid wasting any coffee.May 01 18:39
mateyinstant coffee at chain store has gone down in priceMay 01 18:39
DaemonFCYeah, I have some instant too.May 01 18:40
DaemonFCThat didn't get hit as hard.May 01 18:40
mateyi dont know why, i dont doubt the claim about 40% increaseMay 01 18:40
matey <DaemonFC> That didn't get hit as hard <- weirdMay 01 18:40
DaemonFCBut that was before I saw them clearancing out the cheap-o K-Cup compatible.May 01 18:40
DaemonFCThey use lower grade coffee in instant.May 01 18:40
mateynot surprisingMay 01 18:40
DaemonFCIt's stuff that they couldn't sell as auto drip anyway.May 01 18:40
mateyhehMay 01 18:41
DaemonFCSo they spray dry it because people figure Instant will taste off.May 01 18:41
mateyhow does spray dry workMay 01 18:41
techrights-newsAvast isn't known for security but for spreading malware disguised or marketed as "security". Don't install proprietary software for 'security' https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/avast-one-avast-free-antivirus-and-avast-secure-browser-win-anti-phishing-tests-301533830.html see https://palant.info/2019/10/28/avast-online-security-and-avast-secure-browser-are-spying-on-you/May 01 18:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Avast One, Avast Free Antivirus and Avast Secure Browser Win Anti-Phishing TestsMay 01 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-palant.info | Avast Online Security and Avast Secure Browser are spying on you | Almost SecureMay 01 18:41
matey/me reads and re-reads titleMay 01 18:42
mateydouble takeMay 01 18:42
mateyfirst time was worseMay 01 18:42
techrights-news"Cohen allowed KHN to review error reports after redacting information that identified the hospitals involved. Those reports revealed mix-ups of anesthetics, antibiotics, blood pressure medicine, hormones, muscle relaxers, and a drug used to reverse the effects of sedatives." https://www.physiciansweekly.com/at-us-hospitals-a-drug-mix-up-is-just-a-few-keystrokes-away/May 01 18:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.physiciansweekly.com | At US Hospitals, a Drug Mix-Up Is Just a Few Keystrokes Away - Physician's WeeklyMay 01 18:42
matey/me is reading two channels at the same timeMay 01 18:43
matey#techrights #bnchs-testMay 01 18:43
techrights-newsGulag is still bleeding like a dragon there. MILLION IN LOSSES each and every quarter. https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/google-cloud-istio-cncfMay 01 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Cloud to submit Istio service mesh project to CNCF - ProtocolMay 01 18:43
DaemonFCBasically they roast and brew the beans and then they use an evaporation process to remove most of the water and create a liquid that's as thick as motor oil, and then they reserve some of the volatile oils that escaped and blend it back in with the concentrate.May 01 18:44
mateyyummyMay 01 18:44
DaemonFCThen you can go two ways from there. You can box it up and vacuum seal it and put it in vending machines to be blended with hot water.May 01 18:44
techrights-newsGulag keeps shutting down a lot more things (sometimes companies whose products it bought) than it keeps. It copied this attitude from Microsoft. Gulag Voice it the latest example and "modern experience" is code for WORSE/WORSE experience, cheaper for Gulag.May 01 18:45
matey/me bought instant when low on tea, but probably wont be low on a tea for a whileMay 01 18:46
DaemonFCOr you can send through a tower that "atomizes" it with "drying gases" and then the remainder is sent through a centrifuge that separates it into a fine powder.May 01 18:46
mateyevery once in a while i get lazy and mix some instant with chocolate powderMay 01 18:46
mateyinstant mochaMay 01 18:46
DaemonFCThen a little bit of water is added back so it clumps up, and then you dry it again.May 01 18:46
techrights-newsClown computing is for people with their head in the cloud. It's not a compliment. Those people never think far ahead; instant gratification before long-term tech famine.May 01 18:46
techrights-newsGiant spying devices 'for free' https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a39817148/microconsoles-history/May 01 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popularmechanics.com | History of Microconsoles | Best Microconsoles 2022May 01 18:46
DaemonFCSpray drying coffee is leftover military tech from the second world war.May 01 18:47
mateyi was sure they just freeze dried itMay 01 18:47
mateybut i guess that would be dustierMay 01 18:47
DaemonFCThey did that too in earlier wars.May 01 18:47
DaemonFCThe problem with getting coffee to the soldiers is you have a lot of soldiers and you need shelf stable coffee that doesn't waste any shipping space.May 01 18:47
mateyit never occured to me there might be a second process SIMILAR to freeze dryingMay 01 18:47
DaemonFCBecause the Nazis are out there sinking supply ships.May 01 18:48
mateyindeedMay 01 18:48
DaemonFCSo you need to get as much coffee to them as efficiently as possible.May 01 18:48
techrights-newsHEY HI HEY HI HEY HI procurement https://www.auntminnieeurope.com/index.aspx?sec=log&URL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.auntminnieeurope.com%2Findex.aspx%3Fsec%3Dsup%26sub%3Daic%26pag%3Ddis%26ItemID%3D621432May 01 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.auntminnieeurope.com | Harvey gives top tips on how to approach AI procurementMay 01 18:48
DaemonFCMany of the soldiers didn't even mix the coffee like you're supposed to anyway.May 01 18:48
mateynow they have much more powerful stimulants, but we arent supposed to talk about that :)May 01 18:49
DaemonFCThey'd tear open the packets and eat the instant coffee crystals.May 01 18:49
DaemonFCIf you fall asleep, the enemy can sneak up and kill you.May 01 18:49
mateyor just mix them with water and powdered milk in your mouth like mr bean :)May 01 18:49
DaemonFCSo if you don't want that to happen, get some coffee in you, somehow.May 01 18:49
mateyindeedMay 01 18:49
DaemonFCOh yeah, by the time of the Korean and Vietnam Wars, pilots had an emergency kit in their planes.May 01 18:50
mateyim no military expert, but i would imagine having people in charge of keeping watch also helpsMay 01 18:50
DaemonFCIt included straight up Amphetamine capsules.May 01 18:50
mateythey have those other ones nowMay 01 18:51
mateynot entirely different from amphetaminesMay 01 18:51
mateykids use them during examsMay 01 18:51
DaemonFCIf you crash behind enemy lines, they're looking for you, they will torture and kill you.May 01 18:51
DaemonFCSo what do you give the pilot?May 01 18:51
DaemonFCAmphetamines and cyanide.May 01 18:51
mateyrightMay 01 18:51
mateygood idea imoMay 01 18:51
DaemonFCHe stays moving and runs for several days and shoots anyone who gets in the way or he gets caught and swallows the cyanide so they can't torture him to death.May 01 18:52
mateyexactlyMay 01 18:52
techrights-newsIt's not so much the Wi-Fi that's the risk but your devices (back doors) and things you access with it https://www.pcworld.com/article/693643/4-things-you-should-do-to-stay-safe-on-public-wi-fi.htmlMay 01 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4 ways to stay safe on public Wi-Fi | PCWorldMay 01 18:52
techrights-newsIDG assumes you use Windows (back doors) and Chrome (malware), then tries to sell you VPN. What a bunch of crock. The media is run by scammers and salespeople pushing snakeoil.May 01 18:54
mateyadderallMay 01 18:54
mateyhttps://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/using-stimulants-cram-exams-ruins-sleep-and-doesnt-help-test-scoresMay 01 18:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.universityofcalifornia.edu | Using stimulants to cram for exams ruins sleep and doesn't help test scores | University of CaliforniaMay 01 18:54
mateybetter for survival than test scores, maybeMay 01 18:54
techrights-newsMiamiCoin???? "participants the opportunity acquire knowledge and skills in Web3"... OK, when you see "Web3" you DO know it IS a scheme/scam https://news.mdc.edu/press_release/mdcs-bit-center-partners-with-citycoins-venture-miami-and-stacks-foundation-to-offer-free-miamicoin-developer-course-starting-may-9/ http://techrights.org/2022/01/29/web3-is-bullshit/May 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.mdc.edu | MDC’s BIT Center Partners with CityCoins, Venture Miami and Stacks Foundation to Offer Free MiamiCoin Developer Course Starting May 9 | MDC NewsMay 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Aral Balkan: Web3 is Bullshit | TechrightsMay 01 18:55
mateyit can cause huge lapses in attention, so its better for soldiers on the run than shift workersMay 01 18:55
mateysays the articleMay 01 18:55
DaemonFCYeah. So, he had that, a gun, a medkit, and some, well basically, powerbars a canteen, and a water treatment kit that would kill off pathogens and parasites.May 01 18:55
mateybut also not overworking medical staff would help tooMay 01 18:56
DaemonFCNothing appetizing, but it wouldn't weight you down and you could maybe use the map and compass to run across the border into a country we're not at war with.May 01 18:56
techrights-newsNow they can jack up the prices some more to rip off your pet like you're already ripped off because "COVID" something and "Ukraine" something https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/04/27/2430596/0/en/Marel-to-acquire-Wenger-a-global-leader-in-processing-solutions-for-pet-food-plant-based-proteins-and-aqua-feed.htmlMay 01 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Marel to acquire Wenger, a global leader in processingMay 01 18:56
matey/me doesnt belineve in cryptocurrency, but hasnt reached a final verdictMay 01 18:56
DaemonFCThe United States is already in a terrible recession.May 01 18:56
techrights-newsBusiness Insider publishes corporate webspam! https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/meat-giant-tyson-foods-will-spend-dollar60-million-to-give-its-employees-free/rlky6r7May 01 18:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-africa.businessinsider.com | Meat giant Tyson Foods will spend $60 million to give its employees free education, including college degrees | Business Insider AfricaMay 01 18:57
mateycapitalism is falling apartMay 01 18:57
DaemonFCAnd they're bullshitting us with excuses as to why it isn't a recession or why it won't be that bad of a recession.May 01 18:57
mateyeveryone is at war with everyone, and in war, central economic planning is used more than free marketsMay 01 18:57
DaemonFCKeynesian Economics is total bullshit.May 01 18:57
mateyyepMay 01 18:57
DaemonFCUntil the 1970s, Keynesians said you flat out could not have both economic contractions _and_ inflation.May 01 18:57
DaemonFCAnd right now it's happening AGAIN.May 01 18:57
DaemonFCBut Keynesians still dominate our politics and are driving us over another cliff.May 01 18:58
DaemonFCAnd prescribing the same medicine that keeps making it worse.May 01 18:58
mateyno one knows economics is bullshit more than economistsMay 01 18:58
mateyits like someone is handing them a scientology book and saying "just tell them it works"May 01 18:58
matey"thats your job"May 01 18:58
DaemonFCRichard Stallman is a proponent of Keynesian Economics.May 01 18:58
mateyhe doesnt know shit about that stuffMay 01 18:59
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mateyhe really doesntMay 01 18:59
techrights-newsThe Web is FULL of scams. They want what's LEFT of your REAL (borrowed?) money. Come on, give us REAL dollars for NFTs!! Linux Foundation: NFTs are OK, just need to be more GREEEEEEEEN! Business Insider publishes corporate webspam! https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/meat-giant-tyson-foods-will-spend-dollar60-million-to-give-its-employees-free/rlky6r7May 01 18:59
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DaemonFCHe thinks that when the economy is bad that the government can just print its way out of the problem, even though that hasn't worked in any country that did it.May 01 18:59
DaemonFCIt did send Japan into 300% debt to GDP or more, when you use GAAP accounting practices.May 01 18:59
mateyanytime he strays from computer science, free software and physics, he doesnt know his arse from his elbowMay 01 18:59
DaemonFCAnd it will do the same to the United States, the UK, and anyone else dumb enough to try it.May 01 18:59
mateybut hes got a right to an opinion, even if its crapMay 01 19:00
DaemonFCIt will plunge the world into another Great Depression, and we're already on the verge of most of the countries declaring war on each other again.May 01 19:00
techrights-newsA silent, slow killer https://www.forbesindia.com/article/take-one-big-story-of-the-day/noise-pollution-when-will-the-government-wake-up/75735/1May 01 19:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbesindia.com | Forbes India - Environment, Health: Noise Pollution: When Will The Government Wake Up?May 01 19:00
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, ^May 01 19:00
mateyand if it makes you think, coolMay 01 19:00
mateythe problem is people dont thinkMay 01 19:00
DaemonFCThe US wants the war in Ukraine to grind on, and so does the UK and most of the EU countries, and the English-speaking world.May 01 19:00
mateyit wont be keynesian economic that tanks the usaMay 01 19:01
mateyit will be capitalismMay 01 19:01
techrights-newsTravel (flight etc.) industry is dying. It already struggled a lot BEFORE COVID-19 and Nasdaq helps them find a more malicious business model akin to DRM/streaming. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/subscriptions-are-coming-to-travel-should-you-get-on-boardMay 01 19:01
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mateybut richard stallmans take on economics wont do shit about itMay 01 19:01
DaemonFCWe see it as a chance to mortally wound Russia's military without having to go to war ourselves, so that they're so softened up that the only thing they have left are nukes that we can retaliate against.May 01 19:01
mateyhes really not very educated in the subject in the first placeMay 01 19:01
mateypeople have the things theyre good atMay 01 19:02
mateythen they have the things they really know fuck all about May 01 19:02
mateyas long as you dont mix up the two, youre goodMay 01 19:02
DaemonFCUkraine's government said yesterday that they already downed more than 250 Russian planes, and have blown up over 2,500 armored fighting vehicles and over 1,000 tanks.May 01 19:02
DaemonFCSo that's quite a lot of damage using "defensive" weapons shipments from the west.May 01 19:02
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mateybad strategy is bad strategy no matter what sort of equipment is usedMay 01 19:03
DaemonFCUkraine is a graveyard of Russian armor (and Russians), but at a terrible cost to the Ukrainian people, sadly.May 01 19:03
techrights-newsElon Musk: I shall buy Twitter for "free speech" and a fleet of 10,000 737s MAX for "free FALLS"May 01 19:03
DaemonFCI don't know whether the reports that Putin has some sort of Parkinson's like disease are true or not.May 01 19:03
techrights-news"Python is undeniably one of the most popular programming languages on the planet. Businesses may now reach their goals more easily than ever before thanks to Python." https://anithing-everything.medium.com/top-10-websites-to-learn-python-for-free-in-2022-f6a1d2224d2eMay 01 19:04
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mateyoh, they always say that when they want to get rid of someoneMay 01 19:04
mateyso maybe theyre plotting a coup nowMay 01 19:04
mateygood idea, its timeMay 01 19:04
mateystalin may have been murderedMay 01 19:04
mateyhe was planning to ice all the top brass, his own most trusted peopleMay 01 19:05
mateyquick ticket to a grave, that isMay 01 19:05
mateyputin is just as insaneMay 01 19:05
mateyabsolute power creates paranoiaMay 01 19:05
techrights-news"Climate Neutrality by 2025" = PR nonsense by [some date in the distant future] (when people no longer remember the promises we made or the people who made the promises are deceased already) https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/teamviewer-presents-comprehensive-sustainability-program-c-a-r-e-with-the-goal-to-achieve-climate-neutrality-by-2025-301535333.html Greenwash in capitalism = symptom of criminal mindsetMay 01 19:05
mateyits funny how having complete power makes you feel LESS safe, not moreMay 01 19:05
mateyand then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecyMay 01 19:05
mateypeople werent doing what hitler told them toMay 01 19:05
mateybecause he kept fucking up, and it was costing the warMay 01 19:06
mateyso all the top guys just stopped giving a shit what he saidMay 01 19:06
mateythis is going to happen to putinMay 01 19:06
mateyor the next guy, if there is oneMay 01 19:06
techrights-newsWhy You Should Block Ads https://www.pcmag.com/picks/best-ad-blockersMay 01 19:06
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mateyhopefully he dies soonMay 01 19:06
mateyhes gotten to be too much of a liability to everyone, including his own peopleMay 01 19:06
mateythis is stalin all over againMay 01 19:06
DaemonFCZelenskyy has said that they destroyed so much Russian armor that Putin is having to drag out obsolete equipment that couldn't be used in a war for his military parade on the 9th.May 01 19:06
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mateyand that will be a sign to anyone who knows how full of shit he isMay 01 19:07
mateyand how dangerous this isMay 01 19:07
mateyand how much this needs to endMay 01 19:07
mateyputin is committing suicideMay 01 19:07
mateypoliticallyMay 01 19:07
mateybut also literallyMay 01 19:07
DaemonFCIt's hardly a surprise the Russians pulled out of the north and regrouped and came back in places that had "separated" from Ukraine anyway.May 01 19:07
mateyim not saying theyll kill himMay 01 19:08
mateyfingers crossed thoughMay 01 19:08
DaemonFCThey figure that they can fortify those positions and use the pretend "republics" as human shields.May 01 19:08
mateyweve been here before.May 01 19:08
mateyrussias been here before.May 01 19:08
mateythey know what to do.May 01 19:08
mateyif there are rumours that hes lost it...May 01 19:08
DaemonFCAnd while those folks are fighting, the Russians still have the option of bugging out and retreating back into Russia as the territory is recaptured.May 01 19:08
mateythose rumours are a typical prelude to a takedown.May 01 19:08
mateya lot of the time its not trueMay 01 19:08
mateywhat was doing in stalin was his paranoia May 01 19:09
mateyhe would literally tell people "youre looking shifty-eyed today"May 01 19:09
mateyand then that person had a lot more to worry aboutMay 01 19:09
mateypeople close to the leader only put up with shit like that for so longMay 01 19:09
techrights-newsBillionaires using their media 'pet projects' for reputation laundering. The list continues to grow. Gates, Ford, Bloomberg, Bezos... https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/press-releases/2022/april/thomson-reuters-expands-reporting-of-key-metrics-in-2021-social-impact-and-esg-report.html Musk bought a cesspool of misinformation to prop up his scamsMay 01 19:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thomsonreuters.com | Thomson Reuters expands reporting of key metrics in 2021 Social Impact & ESG Report | Thomson ReutersMay 01 19:09
mateyand people can only obtain so much absolute power until they get that wayMay 01 19:10
mateyputin would live longer if he ran off to some unpopulated area and took his chances in the wildernessMay 01 19:10
techrights-newsEFF should have said what YOU should do: quit the thing. Instead it's sucking up to a sociopath https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/twitter-has-new-owner-heres-what-he-should-doMay 01 19:10
mateymaybe theyd leave him aloneMay 01 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Twitter Has a New Owner. Here’s What He Should Do. | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 01 19:10
mateythe rumours say more about his position than they do about his physical healthMay 01 19:11
techrights-news"Stratton said of the 173-year-old birthplace of Frank Sinatra and site of the first organized baseball game." https://www.seattletimes.com/business/weather-prediction-startups-grow-as-more-volatile-storms-loom/May 01 19:11
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mateytheyre about done with his shitMay 01 19:12
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techrights-newsThick on buzzwords, light on substance https://www.information-age.com/why-integration-must-be-foundation-for-digital-change-123499255/May 01 19:13
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, A lot of companies are facing such pushback from workers over return to the office that they're still not demanding it even though they said they would.May 01 19:14
DaemonFCThat Allstate building in the burbs, off the tollway, is still a ghost town with very few cars in the lot.May 01 19:14
DaemonFCJust empty, sitting there with the lights on.May 01 19:14
techrights-newsIt says "SPONSORED"; The so-called 'Linux' Foundation is bribing loads of publishers to publish puff pieces for it, distracting from the abuses https://thenewstack.io/you-cant-hire-your-way-out-of-the-cloud-skills-shortage/ stop calling servers "clowns"May 01 19:15
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mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=tRYlA5-ARTYMay 01 19:16
techrights-news"At 23, a Greek from Kavala has already built his own robot for less than $600, produced his own 3D printer, and designed a computer tower that is an eco-friendly, do-it-yourself kit. After a decade of being a trailblazer of innovation, what’s next for Dimitris Chatzis?" https://greekreporter.com/2022/04/26/young-greek-tech-whiz-ascos-start-up-greece/May 01 19:16
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mateyhes still more like stalinMay 01 19:16
mateystalin of course, literally blew up the fortifications that protected russie from nazi invasionMay 01 19:16
mateythen while they were literally invading, he ignored it while the brass said "wtf, do something"May 01 19:17
mateyand he routinely ordered them to stand downMay 01 19:17
mateybecause he said those were warning shots, and engaging would start a REAL warMay 01 19:17
techrights-newsIf it got this much funding, then it's working FOR the system and it won't challenge "the system" (like patents that curtail genetics). Also, Forbes is Establishment propaganda. https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiejennings/2022/04/26/with-35-million-in-funding-waltz-health-aims-to-lower-drug-prices-working-with--not-against--the-system/May 01 19:17
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mateyso let the nazis invade russiaMay 01 19:17
mateyMOST bad leaders kill the economyMay 01 19:17
mateystalin literally had it shotMay 01 19:18
DaemonFCKIA Motors Finance is probably not happy about all of those 0% interest loans they signed off on expecting low inflation to continue. Maybe others. Probably others.May 01 19:18
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DaemonFCWhen inflation is like 2%, you just say "Hey, we're greasing the deal and we're selling them a really expensive car so we can eat this." and then when the ink is dry, inflation ramps up and you start getting 5 years worth every year and suddenly it's "Oh shit!".May 01 19:18
techrights-newsMicrosoft site hyping up scams https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/financials/cryptocurrency-stocks/solana/May 01 19:18
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techrights-newsInvesting based on race is known as.... never mind https://www.blackenterprise.com/top-8-black-owned-start-up-tech-companies-to-invest-in-for-2022/May 01 19:19
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techrights-newsNTFS is ANGER, not "Open-Source Excitement" [sic]. I can't believe he's still doing clickbait and paid-for product promotions, even for Microsoft https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=April-2022-HighlightsMay 01 19:23
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DaemonFCStar Trek has gone unbelievably woke as well too now. At some point in the future there are no white starfleet captains anymore.May 01 19:25
DaemonFCThey had one white commanding officer in Discovery for a while. Lorca. He turned out to be a Terran who was there plotting to take them back to his universe to conquer the Empire. So of course they'd make him the bad guy.May 01 19:26
DaemonFCWhite men in Sci Fi have to be the bad guy now because reasons. Unless they're gay.May 01 19:26
techrights-newsRaspberry Slideshow 15.1 is out https://www.binaryemotions.com/digital-signage-systems/raspberry-slideshow/May 01 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.binaryemotions.com | Raspberry Slideshow – Binary EmotionsMay 01 19:26
DaemonFCBut that is a reflection of the way reality is going now.May 01 19:28
DaemonFCYou can't get anywhere near a position of power in most organizations unless you tick a lot of (what should be) irrelevant boxes.May 01 19:29
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DaemonFCAs such, leadership quality in most organizations is suffering because they're no longer as concerned with excellence as they are with projecting that they're "with the times".May 01 19:30
DaemonFChttps://lifehacker.com/how-much-money-can-you-save-by-cutting-your-own-hair-1833776472May 01 19:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | How Much Money Can You Save by Cutting Your Own Hair?May 01 19:31
DaemonFCAn unbelievable amount of money, especially considering inflation.May 01 19:31
DaemonFCI haven't gone anywhere for a haircut since COVID began, at first because I didn't want some random stranger who may very well e infected breathing down my neck.May 01 19:32
techrights-newsPurism Librem 14 review (part 1): The ethical flagship • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164367May 01 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Purism Librem 14 review (part 1): The ethical flagship | Tux MachinesMay 01 19:33
DaemonFCBut then I realized that even at Great Clips, they want $22 now unless you catch them on some promotion where you can buy like 12 haircuts all at once and then it's like $12.99 each, but you have to lay out $168.35 all at once, and then you can only go there for a year. You still have to tip ($5-6 maybe?) and then there's the gas and time out of your day. That all has to factor in, because it's never going to be exactly along where you're May 01 19:34
DaemonFCheading anyway. And gas is expensive.May 01 19:34
techrights-newsNathan Willis: Engaging with the OSI Elections 2022.1 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164368 OSI infested with Microsoft and friends, opponents of Open SourceMay 01 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nathan Willis: Engaging with the OSI Elections 2022.1 | Tux MachinesMay 01 19:35
DaemonFCSome people with long hair can go a while between trims, but I've never had long hair and can't stand going more than about 30 days.May 01 19:35
techrights-newsGulag Handover: "This driver handles the telephony phone mute HID usage by ignoring it. This avoids the default handling by the hid-input driver which is to map this to a KEY_MICMUTE event." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=e9c8c7c43b51b277026f94a1175c605436c7c829May 01 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/hid/hid.git - HID Group's fork of hid.gitMay 01 19:37
DaemonFCThose waterless car washes don't just save the money vs. putting a $10 bill in the machine every week. You burn about a gallon of gas every hour your engine is idling, and it takes about 10-12 minutes to wait and then get pushed through the system each week. So 5 weeks = 1 gallon of gas. 52 weeks in a years, Call it 10.5 gallons of gas wasted, at $4.29 a gallon or so.May 01 19:37
DaemonFCSo there went another $50 just burning gas while the machine pushes you through the wash.May 01 19:37
techrights-newsOSI cannot be redeemed. It's vendor-captured like Linux Foundation. Once they collapse, things won't be pretty (orphaned things). But the point is to cause the disruption. That's why Pentagon-funded companies attack these orgs so viciously. They can obliterate them using 'slush funds'.May 01 19:39
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techrights-news"As suspicious questions on IRC and Discord revealed, there are quite a few solutions to the PWC that are not made public. One question in particular indicates that there is a build-in missing in Raku." https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2022/05/01/antipairing/May 01 19:42
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techrights-news"Since a few years I am also managing tlcontrib – the supplementary TeX Live package repository. [..] Bit thanks to all who made this possible, and make the TeX ecosystem even more friendly!" https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/05/tlcontrib-on-ctan/May 01 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | TLContrib on CTAN | There and back againMay 01 19:43
techrights-news"‘A “massive challenge for Europe” is when citizens are confronted with disinformation through misleading or openly false information." The EPO, aided by the EU, spreads ILLEGAL disinformation in its own Web site https://dwaves.de/2022/05/01/the-deep-fake-tom-cruise-massive-challenge-for-europe-is-technology-neutral/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/upc-illegal/May 01 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lies Are Catching Up With UPC/Unitary Patent Boosters (And Mr. ‘F Word’ Campinos Misuses the EPO.Org Site to Spread Lies, Shamelessly Promote Illegal Agenda) | TechrightsMay 01 19:44
techrights-news"Due to COVID-19, my ever-increasing workload has kept me away from posting. Also, health issues in the family and my daughter's return to to in-person school classes required my attention. All this has kept me away from here." http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2022/05/happy-12th-anniversary.htmlMay 01 19:46
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techrights-news"another batch of updates came and broke it. Good job, Microsoft! I had to fix it and it took me two days to have the system operational again." http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2022/05/happy-12th-anniversary.htmlMay 01 19:47
techrights-news"I was hired as a Senior Web Developer on addons.mozilla.org (AMO). I am now a Staff Software Engineer in the Firefox WebExtensions team. I officially joined this team in January. Since then, I became a peer of the Add-ons Manager and WebExtensions modules." https://williamdurand.fr/2022/05/01/moziversary-4/May 01 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-williamdurand.fr | Moziversary #4 | William DurandMay 01 19:49
techrights-newsdriver core: Add sysfs support for physical location of a device https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/driver-core.git/commit/?h=driver-core-next&id=6423d2951087231706246f81851067f7f0593d4aMay 01 19:50
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techrights-news"Back at $COMPANY we had an internal meme-site. I had some reputation in my team for creating good memes. When I watched Episode 3 of Season 2 from Yes Premier Minister yesterday, I really missed a place to post memes." https://blog.koch.ro/posts/2022-05-01-missing-memegen.htmlMay 01 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.koch.ro | Thomas Koch - Missing memegenMay 01 20:03
techrights-newsOpenStreetMap https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-map-alternatives/May 01 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 12 of the Best Google Maps Alternatives You Should Try - Make Tech EasierMay 01 20:04
techrights-newsFake patents on software granted by EPO to companies that blackmail GNU/Linux distros https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/21/epo-opposition-filed-against-dolby-patent see http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/patent-trolling-dolby/May 01 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | EPO opposition filed against Dolby patent — Unified PatentsMay 01 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dolby Patents Are Being Used in Patent-Trolling Activity Against GNU/Linux, But Dolby is Said to Be a GPL Violator | TechrightsMay 01 20:17
techrights-newsTrinity Desktop Environment (TDE) R14.0.12 release is ready! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164369May 01 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) R14.0.12 release is ready! | Tux MachinesMay 01 20:17
techrights-newsSoftware Patents again https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/25/lbt-ip-patent-challengedMay 01 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | LBT IP II patent challenged — Unified PatentsMay 01 20:17
techrights-newsIndirectly Microsoft-connected patent troll https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/26/dominion-harbor-entity-liberty-peak-ventures-patent-likely-invalid http://techrights.org/wiki/Dominion_HarborMay 01 20:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Dominion Harbor entity Liberty Peak Ventures patent likely invalid — Unified PatentsMay 01 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dominion Harbor - TechrightsMay 01 20:18
techrights-newsMicrosoft-connected patent troll https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/29/2000-awarded-for-acacia-subsidiary-prior-art see http://techrights.org/wiki/AcaciaMay 01 20:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 awarded for Acacia subsidiary prior art — Unified PatentsMay 01 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Acacia - TechrightsMay 01 20:19
techrights-newsEPO says: "According to the EPO's Patent Index 2021, one in five patent applications to the EPO originating in Europe came from an individual inventor or small or medium-sized enterprise (fewer than 250 employees)." So basically EPO admits it works for megacorporations, at SMEs' expense.May 01 20:21
techrights-newsSoftware Patents are nowadays shoehorned by the criminals who hijacked the EPO. They like to dub these "4IR"...May 01 20:22
techrights-newsSystem of the megacorporations http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/fail-tesla-toyota-honda-file-wrong.htmlMay 01 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: #FAIL: Tesla, Toyota, Honda file WRONG amicus brief as auto industry, Apploturfers urge Fifth Circuit to resuscitate Continental's 'antitrust' case against Avanci, Nokia, othersMay 01 20:24
techrights-newsThe corrupt site IAM, taking bribes from the EPO in order to lie, helps calls Software Patents just "CII" https://www.iam-media.com/article/iam-weekly-review-25th-30th-april-2022May 01 20:25
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: iam-media.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/article/iam-weekly-review-25th-30th-april-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.iam-media.com/article/iam-weekly-review-25th-30th-april-2022May 01 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Via ends wireless pool; Big EPO CII change; More US Avanci licensees soon; ZTE asks court to set 4G FRAND rate; Vidal hints at pharma patent crackdown; plus much more - IAMMay 01 20:25
techrights-newsOrrin Hatch has died? We'll never forget what he did on patents http://techrights.org/2018/06/18/orrin-hatch-pharmaceutical-industry-ptab/ maybe we should patent his coffin and SUE HIMMay 01 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Orrin Hatch, Sponsored the Most by the Pharmaceutical Industry, Tries to Make Its Patents Immune From Scrutiny (PTAB) | TechrightsMay 01 20:33
techrights-newsEuropean Parliament for megacorporations (a union of oligarchs?) https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/04/breaking-article-17-of-dsm-directive-is.htmlMay 01 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Article 17 of the DSM Directive is VALID - The IPKatMay 01 20:34
techrights-news"patents electronics, mobility, designs and SEPs" is what it is. Stop calling everything IP (it's a lie). https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/volkswagen-appoints-new-head-of-ip/May 01 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Volkswagen appoints new head of IP - JUVE PatentMay 01 20:35
techrights-newsIAM is glorifying massive patent trolls https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1187436/upcoming-interdigital-v-lenovo-sepfrand-decision-hsf-interviewed-by-iam see http://techrights.org/2018/03/04/interdigital-and-technicolor/May 01 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Upcoming InterDigital v Lenovo SEP/FRAND Decision – HSF Interviewed By IAM - Patent - UKMay 01 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Publicly-Traded Troll, InterDigital, is Trying Hard to Recover Lost Momentum by Adding Tens of Thousands of Technicolor Patents/Applications | TechrightsMay 01 20:42
techrights-news"The text of the Patent Act suggests that obviousness is a straightforward inquiry: find how the claimed invention differs from the prior art and ask whether, based upon those differences, an objective artisan would deem the invention obvious. 35 U.S.C. § 103." Far too many US patents are obvious, but only a fraction are tested in court https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/04/the-advance-meaningful.htmlMay 01 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Is the Advance Meaningful? | Patently-OMay 01 20:43
techrights-newsGloPoWriMo - It's a wrap! gemini://spool-five.com/gemlog/2022-05-01-glopowrimo.gmiMay 01 20:46
techrights-newsThe Mauve Shroom Assembly gemini://thurk.org/blog/556.gmiMay 01 20:47
techrights-newsThoughts on Long-form Content on Gemini gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/longform.gmiMay 01 20:48
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techrights-newssmolZINE - Issue 25 gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/smolzine/smolzine-issue-25.gmi "A quite impressive feat of efficient hardware utilization, this capsule is not only a gemini capsule but also a sensor station for a mushroom farm and all of this is running on an ESP8266 microcontroller off-grid!"May 01 20:49
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DaemonFChttps://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/01/europe/russia-farm-vehicles-ukraine-disabled-melitopol-intl/index.htmlMay 01 20:50
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/01/europe/russia-farm-vehicles-ukraine-disabled-melitopol-intl/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/01/europe/russia-farm-vehicles-ukraine-disabled-melitopol-intl/index.htmlMay 01 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Farm vehicles removed from Ukraine by Russians who find they've been remotely disabled - CNNMay 01 20:50
DaemonFC"Russian troops in the occupied city of Melitopol have stolen all the equipment from a farm equipment dealership -- and shipped it to Chechnya, according to a Ukrainian businessman in the area.May 01 20:50
DaemonFCBut after a journey of more than 700 miles, the thieves were unable to use any of the equipment -- because it had been locked remotely."May 01 20:50
techrights-newsFinally, Signal on the PinePhone gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/05/01/signal-on-the-pinephone/May 01 20:50
DaemonFChttps://www.npr.org/2022/05/01/1095466871/biden-polls-democrats-gen-z-midtermsMay 01 20:56
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/05/01/1095466871/biden-polls-democrats-gen-z-midterms https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.npr.org/2022/05/01/1095466871/biden-polls-democrats-gen-z-midtermsMay 01 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Polls show Biden losing support from Gen Z. Some young voters aren't surpris : NPRMay 01 20:56
DaemonFC"May 01 20:56
DaemonFCThe latest polls show Joe Biden is losing the love of younger Americans."May 01 20:56
DaemonFCHis approval rating with them was never above 50%.May 01 20:56
DaemonFCNPR revisionism.May 01 20:56
CrystalMathtime to hack the firmware on that farm equipmentMay 01 20:56
DaemonFCNot surprising, because NPR is biased towards Democrats.May 01 20:57
CrystalMaththis is a job for open source communism power! :)May 01 20:57
DaemonFC"Climate change, racial justice, and student debt are some of the key issues for young people."May 01 20:57
DaemonFCWrong.May 01 20:57
DaemonFCThe fact that you can no longer afford an apartment or gas to run your car to get to work on one income are the top issues right now.May 01 20:58
psydruidor time to stop buying that farm equipment and let its manufacturer go bankruptMay 01 20:58
CrystalMathpsydruid: nah, it was already stolen, so why not use itMay 01 20:58
CrystalMathlet's not be wastefulMay 01 20:58
DaemonFCJohn Deere has been fighting right to repair.May 01 20:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▅▆▅▅▆▆▇▆▆▆▅▆▆▁▆▆▅▆▃▆▅▆▆▆▅▅▆▇▃▅▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 27.31 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▂▂▃▂▃▂▃▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▃▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 6.48▕ swarm size (avg): 347.91  ⟲May 01 20:59
psydruidor time for the government to put an end to these practicesMay 01 20:59
CrystalMathwe need to overwrite the firmware on that thingMay 01 20:59
DaemonFCAnd part of the right to repair issue is that they put so much software in there to track and disable the equipment if, you know, the farmer misses a payment.May 01 20:59
psydruidor time to put an end to the governmentMay 01 20:59
CrystalMathmaybe even replace some controllersMay 01 20:59
DaemonFCAnd that hobbles the ability of independent mechanics to service it.May 01 20:59
DaemonFCI doubt the Russians are going to figure out a bypass so they'll probably give up and break them down into parts.May 01 21:00
DaemonFCIf the Russians are using John Deere equipment for their own farms then technically nothing stops the US government from disabling their farming equipment until the war is over.May 01 21:00
DaemonFCI'm not sure why they wouldn't have already.May 01 21:01
DaemonFCWhen you get the Russians unable to harvest their crops that might put pressure on them to negotiate an end to the war.May 01 21:01
DaemonFCLiterally no young Americans who have to rent an apartment or put food on the table are "primarily concerned aout racial justice".May 01 21:02
techrights-newsLinks 01/05/2022: Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) R14.0.12, ExTiX 22.5, and Plamo 7.4 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/trinity-desktop-environment/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/01/trinity-desktop-environment/May 01 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 01/05/2022: Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) R14.0.12, ExTiX 22.5, and Plamo 7.4 | TechrightsMay 01 21:02
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164370May 01 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 01 21:03
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164371May 01 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 01 21:03
DaemonFCThis is woke bullshit at its worst. "Oh, I'm eating peanut butter sandwiches every day and falling further behind on my rent, but I'm going to worry about whether the next Star Trek has a black captain!".May 01 21:03
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164372May 01 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 01 21:03
DaemonFCNetflix disabling password sharing is going to be part of what ends them.May 01 21:03
DaemonFCThose people aren't going to subscribe. They're going to go to bittorrent.May 01 21:03
SomeH4x0rwdym disabling?May 01 21:03
DaemonFCThey know about password sharing and have just opted not to do much about it until now.May 01 21:08
SomeH4x0rsome are afraid of ISP letters, idk why don't these pay for VPNsMay 01 21:09
DaemonFCLike Microsoft tolerating widespread piracy in poor countries.May 01 21:09
DaemonFCTo make sure nobody tries to get away and everyone standardizes on their formats.May 01 21:09
DaemonFCAnd then it's too late, so they clamp down and start demanding lots of money.May 01 21:09
DaemonFCI thought about printing out one of those "return coupons" requesting more information about MS-DOS OEM licensing and mailing it to Microsoft to see what would happen.May 01 21:10
DaemonFCTheir address has changed. That building is still there, though.May 01 21:11
bnchs__SomeH4x0r, VPNs are a big nothingburgerMay 01 21:11
bnchs__how many VPNs have surrendered to the agents after being threatened or some shitMay 01 21:11
bnchs__VPNs change their tune after they get a subpoenaMay 01 21:12
SomeH4x0rat least I didn't get threat letters for downloading torrents here (in Ukraine), so someone could get a proxy in Ukraine and use it, I guessMay 01 21:13
bnchs__i didn't tooMay 01 21:15
bnchs__i seeded over 180+ GB on my home networkMay 01 21:16
bnchs__of "pirated" films and moviesMay 01 21:16
bnchs__never got a single letterMay 01 21:16
techrights-newsIAM: Paid by the EPO’s Nepotism Club (Management) to Glorify Illegal Agenda (and in Turn ’Legitimise’ It, Imposing That on EPO Examiners) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/iam-the-faithful-megaphone/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/01/iam-the-faithful-megaphone/May 01 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM: Paid by the EPO’s Nepotism Club (Management) to Glorify Illegal Agenda (and in Turn ‘Legitimise’ It, Imposing That on EPO Examiners) | TechrightsMay 01 21:21
DaemonFCI topped off the freezers completely.May 01 21:23
DaemonFCBad times are here.May 01 21:23
DaemonFCLots of stores are just entirely out of chicken, or have raised the price about a third.May 01 21:24
DaemonFCI have about 3.5 cubic feet full of frozen chicken.May 01 21:24
DaemonFCI bought hundreds of dollars worth, just of chicken, before the shelves went completely bare or the price (if you can get some) went sky high.May 01 21:25
psydruidthey mostly target people in "developed" countriesMay 01 21:25
DaemonFCDumping some cash isn't a bad idea, especially on food.May 01 21:25
DaemonFCThat's one of the things that's going up fast.May 01 21:25
DaemonFChttps://www.cnn.com/2022/04/28/success/money-moves-recession-geopolitical-unrest/index.htmlMay 01 21:27
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/28/success/money-moves-recession-geopolitical-unrest/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/28/success/money-moves-recession-geopolitical-unrest/index.htmlMay 01 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recession fears are mounting. Here's how to protect your money - CNNMay 01 21:27
DaemonFCMore CNN bullshit.May 01 21:27
DaemonFC"With ultra-low unemployment and plenty of openings, it's a job seeker's market right now. But if there's a recession, that could change quickly. So make hay while you can."May 01 21:28
DaemonFCRight.....May 01 21:28
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, It's a jobseeker's market. Ignore the bloodbath going on right now with layoffs, especially with white collar workers.May 01 21:28
DaemonFCRobinhood recently fired several hundred workers.May 01 21:29
DaemonFCThey're trying to explain it all away of course, just like the thousands of others.May 01 21:29
DaemonFCGeico (my car insurance company) is laying off or making the workplace so intolerable that people get the message and quit.May 01 21:29
DaemonFCToday Geico's app dinged me for "distracted driving" when I was parked and had the engine turned off and was telling Walmart's app where to bring my groceries.May 01 21:30
DaemonFCSo I told Geico I was a passenger on that trip.May 01 21:31
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: the GREAT RESIGNATIONMay 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRit's the workers' faulytMay 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRthey all resignMay 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRthe companies cannot find ENOUGH workers!!!May 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRthe GREAT RESIGNATIONMay 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRICBM is promoting this myth every weekMay 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRnot it finally admits it might not be trueMay 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRICBM fires LOADS of peopleMay 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRbut...May 01 21:34
schestowitz-TRthe GREAT RESIGNATIONMay 01 21:35
schestowitz-TRGREAT RESIGNATION... up your arse! You're Fir^H^H^HGREAT RESIGNATIONMay 01 21:35
schestowitz-TR[21:27] <DaemonFC> More CNN bullshit.May 01 21:36
schestowitz-TR https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/24/cnn-plus-what-went-wrong-why-it-was-canceled.htmlMay 01 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | CNN+: What went wrong and why it was canceledMay 01 21:36
schestowitz-TRGee, I wonder whyMay 01 21:36
schestowitz-TRat some point people switch off the oligarchs' brainwashMay 01 21:36
schestowitz-TRthen the worse ones buy TWITTERMay 01 21:36
schestowitz-TRas a wholeMay 01 21:36
schestowitz-TRnot like Gates buying "pieces" of himMay 01 21:36
schestowitz-TRalong with head chopping oil tycoon from KSAMay 01 21:37
schestowitz-TRbbiabMay 01 21:37
schestowitz-TRanyhow.... " it's a job seeker's market right now" so IF YOU ARE NOT EMPLOYED THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU!! SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP. Shrink at $100 an hour... oh, sorry, you have no income.... " it's a job seeker's market right now" for shrinks and people who give you anti-depressants along with other narcoticsMay 01 21:38
schestowitz-TR[15:05] <techrights-news> "the rate of antidepressant use in the United States increased nearly 400 percent." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/29/do-you-still-believe-in-the-chemical-imbalance-theory-of-mental-illness/ | Source: Counter PunchMay 01 21:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Do You Still Believe in the “Chemical Imbalance Theory of Mental Illness”? - CounterPunch.orgMay 01 21:39
psydruidpeople signed up for the GREAT RESIGNATIONMay 01 21:39
bnchs__oh you're depressedMay 01 21:39
bnchs__here take this drugMay 01 21:39
psydruidand now they are resignedMay 01 21:39
bnchs__it will supress your depressionMay 01 21:39
schestowitzjoin the metaversMay 01 21:40
schestowitzewhere everyone is a tycoonMay 01 21:40
schestowitzeveryone is rich with a million fakecoins to startMay 01 21:40
schestowitzthey call it "libra"May 01 21:40
schestowitzwith your fakecoin libra you can buy virtual "sex" with "HEY HI" in the metaverseMay 01 21:41
schestowitzwhile the oligarchs finish raking up all that's left of the capital;May 01 21:41
schestowitzall the homes (estate)May 01 21:41
schestowitzall the forests, now the land too is "owned", even natureMay 01 21:41
schestowitzoccupying space May 01 21:41
schestowitzand getting 50 million patents per yearMay 01 21:42
psydruid21st century feudalismMay 01 21:42
schestowitzfor INNOVA~1 y'know...May 01 21:42
psydruidthe world needs revolutionsMay 01 21:42
schestowitz[21:41] <schestowitz> occupying space May 01 21:42
schestowitzall the physical spaeMay 01 21:42
schestowitzAND .... OUTER spaceMay 01 21:42
schestowitzthat's theirs tooMay 01 21:42
schestowitzno NASAMay 01 21:42
schestowitzSpaceMuskXMay 01 21:42
schestowitz(and he controls Twitter too, you know)May 01 21:42
schestowitzgo post some "Activism" in TwitterMay 01 21:42
schestowitzMuskinTape will slow it down when it gets effectiveMay 01 21:43
psydruids/world/universe/May 01 21:43
schestowitz"you're too effective, we paced/thorttled you down a bit"May 01 21:43
schestowitzfor "national security"May 01 21:43
techrights-newsOSI is already sold. Like "Linux" Foundation. The oligarchs bought and paid for both of them. RIP! Those institutions are now lobbying apparatuses for the billionaires, who use the Code of Conduct to ban people who criticise them https://www.freesoftwhere.org/2022/05/01/engaging-with-the-osi-elections-2022-1/May 01 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://www.freesoftwhere.org/2022/05/01/engaging-with-the-osi-elections-2022-1/ )May 01 21:45
techrights-newsThe EPO‘s faithful megaphone is still at it; not only does it promote European software patents as it also helps Benoît Battistelli and António Campinos promote fake news about the UPC http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/iam-the-faithful-megaphone/May 01 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM: Paid by the EPO’s Nepotism Club (Management) to Glorify Illegal Agenda (and in Turn ‘Legitimise’ It, Imposing That on EPO Examiners) | TechrightsMay 01 21:45
techrights-newsAntónio Campinos clearly doesn’t give a "f" about his father’s work; he just used his father’s name, posthumously, to gain/secure positions of power at EUIPO and EPO http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/jorge-campinos-exploited/May 01 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | António: The Antichrist of Jorge Campinos | TechrightsMay 01 21:45
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/01/geico-driveeasy-dings-safe-drivers-constantly-including-penalizing-for-avoiding-accidents-while-draining-phone-battery/May 01 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | GEICO DriveEasy dings safe drivers constantly. Including penalizing for avoiding accidents while draining phone battery. – BaronHK's RantsMay 01 21:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, ^May 01 21:46
DaemonFC"It also dinged me for not driving smoothly when I had to pull into the middle lane and let a police officer with his lights and siren on pass me on the tollway."May 01 21:48
DaemonFC"It obviously has no idea what in the hell is going on out there and that it's penalizing you for avoiding accidents and filing insurance claims that cost them money, and so if this is the best they've got, they need to yank it until they can do better."May 01 21:49
DaemonFC"I'm not really sure whether I should send this through UPS. It is contaminated with gasoline fumes. The reason I wanted to return it is because it is actually incompatible with my vehicle and was causing "Check Gas Cap" errors from the computer, which went away when I installed an AC Delco gas cap."May 01 22:23
DaemonFCMe, to an Amazon support agent about the Gates gas cap.May 01 22:23
DaemonFCUsually when it's something cheap they can just give you a refund and tell you to throw away the merchandise. I can't imagine this is legal to mail at this point or that they could sell it to anyone else.May 01 22:25
DaemonFCConcentrated gas fumes can, of course, start a fire.May 01 22:25
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mateysome of the things they give for depression make people feel homicidalMay 01 22:59
mateyi used to know someone who felt like murdering people when he took certain antidepressants (mainstream ones)May 01 23:00
mateyhe felt better when he went off themMay 01 23:00
mateyi was not around when he was taking them...May 01 23:00
mateyhttps://sourceforge.net/projects/adagate/  https://sourceforge.net/projects/adaventure/  https://castopod.org/  http://git.vitali64.duckdns.org/?p=utils/learn.git  http://git.vitali64.duckdns.org/?p=utils/seen.git  https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/scdoc  https://raf.org/danectl  http://people.tuebingen.mpg.de/maan/paraslash/  http://dfu-util.sourceforge.net/  May 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AdaGate download | SourceForge.netMay 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AdaVenture download | SourceForge.netMay 01 23:01
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: sourceforge.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sourceforge.net/projects/adagate/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://sourceforge.net/projects/adagate/May 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-castopod.org | Castopod by Ad Aures | Your Free & Open-source Podcast HostMay 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.vitali64.duckdns.org Git - utils/learn.git/summaryMay 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.vitali64.duckdns.org Git - utils/seen.git/summaryMay 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.sr.ht | ~sircmpwn/scdoc - sourcehut gitMay 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raf.org | danectlMay 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.tuebingen.mpg.de | ParaslashMay 01 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dfu-util.sourceforge.net | dfu-util HomepageMay 01 23:01
mateyactual free software from the past 2 months of free software directory updatesMay 01 23:01
mateynothing github-based afaik (this does not take dependencies into account)May 01 23:01
mateyhttps://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/scdoc <- this is manpages implemented in c99May 01 23:02
mateyof interest to activelow perhapsMay 01 23:02
mateyhes probably seen it alreadyMay 01 23:02
mateyi dont know what part requires c++ according to himMay 01 23:02
mateyi figure SOMETHING does, i dont know which partMay 01 23:02
mateyhttps://sourceforge.net/projects/adagate/  https://sourceforge.net/projects/adaventure <- these require ada, so thats probably github based (but the projects themselves are not)May 01 23:03
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: sourceforge.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sourceforge.net/projects/adagate/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://sourceforge.net/projects/adagate/May 01 23:03
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=i_3yfyhmNc8May 01 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | God's Own Drunk - InvidiousMay 01 23:07
DaemonFChttps://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/economy/summer-camp-cost-2022/index.htmlMay 01 23:11
-cameron1/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/economy/summer-camp-cost-2022/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202205/https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/economy/summer-camp-cost-2022/index.htmlMay 01 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Summer camp costs surge in 2022 | CNN BusinessMay 01 23:11
DaemonFCWhile more Americans can't afford a home to live in, CNN worries about how much "summer camp" will cost for "the kids" that people can no longer afford to have.May 01 23:11
DaemonFC<matey> some of the things they give for depression make people feel homicidalMay 01 23:12
DaemonFCAntidepressants can make people do crazy shit.May 01 23:12
DaemonFCYou'll never hear that from the doctors though.May 01 23:12
mateyits something to think about when these idiots go on rampages May 01 23:14
mateya lot of which is about ideology im sure, not chemicalsMay 01 23:14
mateythe thing about factors though-- you can discount factors, until you miss the real cause. May 01 23:15
mateypeople talk about antidepressants when some of the people go on rampagesMay 01 23:15
mateyim sure its just lawyering sometimes. doing whatever you can for your clientMay 01 23:16
mateybut if it happens often enough, maybe its actual dateMay 01 23:16
mateydataMay 01 23:16
mateyand as you say, the industry isnt going to be too keen on saying "oh yes, our products make people more apt to kill people"May 01 23:16
mateyi mean, the marketing department isnt going to greenlight thatMay 01 23:16
matey"going for that honesty dollar!"May 01 23:17
mateythere IS NO honesty dollarMay 01 23:17
mateythere is only bullshitMay 01 23:17
mateyof course, im not anti-medication (per se) May 01 23:17
mateyi mean, if youre REALLY having that much troubleMay 01 23:17
mateyive met people who definitely have higher-quality lives on pharmaceuticals than without themMay 01 23:18
mateyits justMay 01 23:18
mateywhen its an industry, their job is to maximise profitsMay 01 23:18
mateynot well-beingMay 01 23:18
mateysaying its a conflict of interest and an ethical issue is sort of an understatementMay 01 23:18
mateyfuck industryMay 01 23:18
mateyi should say when its industry under capitalism, the goal is to maximise profitsMay 01 23:19
mateymaybe if you take the latter awayMay 01 23:19
mateyno ones keen on that, and by no one, i mean not most peopleMay 01 23:20
mateystallman is an economic reformerMay 01 23:20
mateyhes wants a less-broken broken systemMay 01 23:20
mateyexactly what open source wants from free softwareMay 01 23:20
mateyreform is the inbred cousin of revolutionMay 01 23:21
mateyhe knows how to get action but he only shoots blanksMay 01 23:22
mateyor worseMay 01 23:22
bnchs__am i interjecting in a monologueMay 01 23:32
matey :)May 01 23:33
psydruidrefuse/resist/reformMay 01 23:33
mateyitc ircMay 01 23:33
mateyits ircMay 01 23:33
mateyinterjecting is what irc is forMay 01 23:33
mateyalso its a rant, not a monologue :)May 01 23:33
bnchs__ohMay 01 23:33
matey monologue is a diplomatic word for describing a rant :)May 01 23:34
bnchs__!helpMay 01 23:36
mateyno one can help you nowMay 01 23:38
matey...May 01 23:38
bnchs__!licenseMay 01 23:38
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=SECVGN4BsggMay 01 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Men At Work - Who Can It Be Now? (Video Version) - InvidiousMay 01 23:38
bnchs__damn cmd is disabled on TechrightsBot-tr May 01 23:38
mateyeven though i know other songs of theirsMay 01 23:39
mateyi always thought this was by huey lewis :)May 01 23:39
bnchs__hey cameron1 altlink guyMay 01 23:39
cameron1👍 https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/57May 01 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framagit.org | hey altlink guy (#57) · Issues · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLabMay 01 23:40
bnchs__bruhMay 01 23:40
psydruidcameron1 you are so cool with your instant responsesMay 01 23:40
cameron1👍 https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/58May 01 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framagit.org | you are so cool with your instant responses (#58) · Issues · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLabMay 01 23:40
psydruidlolMay 01 23:40
mateycameron1 help im being held hostage by a chatbotMay 01 23:41
cameron1👍 https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/59May 01 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framagit.org | help im being held hostage by a chatbot (#59) · Issues · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLabMay 01 23:41
matey :DMay 01 23:41
bnchs__also i finished the cloudflare detection on the phirce botMay 01 23:41
mateyadd a way to get issues from people mentioning it in chat :)May 01 23:41
bnchs__if only roy has a issue trackerMay 01 23:42
mateybut also make it so they can delete the issueMay 01 23:42
mateycameron1 my lawyers have requested you delete this issue on grounds of copyright violation and defamation!May 01 23:42
cameron1👍 https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/60May 01 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framagit.org | my lawyers have requested you delete this issue on grounds of copyright violation and defamation! (#60) · Issues · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLabMay 01 23:42
mateyonly joking, you know i love youMay 01 23:43
bnchs__have you told it your feelings for it?May 01 23:43
mateycameron1 i love you lets run away from this placeMay 01 23:44
cameron1👍 https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/61May 01 23:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framagit.org | i love you lets run away from this place (#61) · Issues · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLabMay 01 23:44
bnchs__the altlink guy is gonna talk through the botMay 01 23:44
bnchs__just waitMay 01 23:44
mateythis is the most trolling ive done of a repo in... May 01 23:44
mateywell, everMay 01 23:44
MinceRlolMay 01 23:44
mateyi hope the altlink guy knows its his bot i love, not himMay 01 23:45
matey(that would be weird)May 01 23:45
matey.bef May 01 23:45
bnchs__no that would be uhhhhMay 01 23:45
matey.justfriendsMay 01 23:45
bnchs__let's just say, GAYMay 01 23:45
mateyNO ONE UNDERSTANDS OUR LOVE!May 01 23:46
mateyBUT I DONT CARE!May 01 23:46
bnchs__niceMay 01 23:46
MinceR"Only my weapon understands me!"May 01 23:47
mateythe companion cube is your only friend...May 01 23:47
bnchs__but the companion cube can't talk?May 01 23:47
mateyits the strong silent typeMay 01 23:47
mateyalso heavyMay 01 23:47
bnchs__i think i know someone else who's a strong silent typeMay 01 23:48
matey/me is silent on the insideMay 01 23:49
bnchs__also has to do with a research facility operated by a corporation we hate >:(May 01 23:50
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=gq8snFSEwlUMay 01 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 432Hz - 3 Hour Crystal Singing Bowl Healing Sound Bath (4K, No Talking) - Singing Bowls - Sound Bath - InvidiousMay 01 23:50
bnchs__fuck black mesaMay 01 23:50
matey432hz silence is way more peaceful than the all the other frequencies of silence ;)May 01 23:51
bnchs__yes i don't wanna hear the humming of my LED lightMay 01 23:51
bnchs__that i'm scared it's gonna cause a house fire one dayMay 01 23:52
MinceRteach it the lyrics, then :>May 01 23:52
matey/me asks linda fiorentino to teach it the lyricsMay 01 23:52
matey/me thinks the idea of gary shandling and annette benning making a romantic comedy that no woman would ever tolerate is next to brilliantMay 01 23:55
mateyor possibly across the train tracks from brilliant, i dont knowMay 01 23:55
mateyits probably avant gardeMay 01 23:56
mateyor maybe just idiot savantMay 01 23:56
mateybut if all else fails-- SIR BEN kingsley!May 01 23:57
psydruidGandhi JiMay 01 23:57
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=jyrONsewQW8May 01 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Gandhi vs Martin Luther King Jr. Epic Dance Battles of History - InvidiousMay 01 23:58
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bnchs__got dang itMay 01 23:59
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/wise-2May 01 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - WiseMay 01 23:59
-bnchsbot/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - WiseMay 01 23:59
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