IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, January 05, 2021

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz__: Wonder if mjg59 is in the union, which I'm sure just happened because they're so terrific to their workers. Which is how union drives usually start, as we all know.

schestowitz__

maybe mjg59 will even join this cause

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instead of sucking up to corporations

DaemonFC[m]

Only if they wear pink sock hats.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-5.15-LTS-Commercial-Phase

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Qt Company Is Tomorrow Moving Qt 5.15 To Its Commercial-Only LTS Phase - Phoronix

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read comments here.

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they should fork

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those who rely on qt

mjg59

As of today I'm in the union, yes

Jan 05 02:32

DaemonFC[m]

"Thiago Macieira of Intel was quick to comment that at lest for code he deals with in Qt, he will not be participating in fixes or commenting and reviewing on back-ports or bug reports. He intends to just close bug reports that cannot be reproduced on Qt 6.0."

Jan 05 02:32

DaemonFC[m]

Wow.

Jan 05 02:32

DaemonFC[m]

This makes LTS versions of KDE practically impossible.

Jan 05 02:33

schestowitz__

mjg59: +1

Jan 05 02:33

DaemonFC[m]

If there's no LTS version of Qt then it would be an unsupportable backlog of CVEs and stuff that KDE can't support.

schestowitz__

just for the record.

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iirc, this plan predates covid

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except maybe in china

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this is just qt being greesy

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greedy

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“Fork it and f*ck it (Qt6). I know Krita devs are unhappy about Qt6 dropping ANGLE, and many other things are still missing.” https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1230096-the-qt-company-is-tomorrow-moving-qt-5-15-to-its-commercial-only-lts-phase

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Qt Company Is Tomorrow Moving Qt 5.15 To Its Commercial-Only LTS Phase - Phoronix Forums

schestowitz__

"The absence of competition in the “portable C++ app development frameworks segment has enabled the company to raise to an unprecedented level of community-unfriendliness.”

Jan 05 02:35

DaemonFC[m]

There is going to have to be some sort of a fork of Qt 5.15 I'd imagine, if enough people are interested in it.

Jan 05 02:36

DaemonFC[m]

This has as much to do with foisting a broken and halfassed new Qt series on people who don't pay them so they can find all the bugs as it does anything else.

Jan 05 02:37

DaemonFC[m]

And it won't work.

Jan 05 02:37

DaemonFC[m]

There's been a lot of things that have been attacking KDE as a viable project for some time now.

Jan 05 02:37

DaemonFC[m]

Seemingly unrelated to each other.

Jan 05 02:38

DaemonFC[m]

Wayland, systemd, now Qt. Red Hat and Intel mostly.

Jan 05 02:38

DaemonFC[m]

Now that they and Microsoft control Linux, they figure that they can put hard pressure on users to abandon everything except GNOME so that they control everything.

Jan 05 02:39

DaemonFC[m]

They'll say it's because they want a coherent end user experience, but it's bullshit because having one desktop environment and not another hasn't hurt anything or affected anyone else for many years.

Jan 05 02:39

DaemonFC[m]

It's outside their sphere of influence, so it has to go.

Jan 05 02:39

DaemonFC[m]

There used to be multiple shell options for Windows even. Now there aren't.

Jan 05 02:40

DaemonFC[m]

I remember using various shell interfaces that weren't explorer because it was so unstable and bloated.

Jan 05 02:41

schestowitz__

simple

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app

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unity

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one option

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from their "user friendliness" "research"

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who needs options

schestowitz__

one store, one OS...

https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-tears-into-intel-favors-amd/

DaemonFC[m]

The actual code for the IE4 Shell Update was just terrible.

Jan 05 02:45

DaemonFC[m]

It leaked memory (and "resources") and frequently crashed Windows.

Jan 05 02:45

DaemonFC[m]

It had all sorts of things that were obviously crammed into it purely because of court cases.

Jan 05 02:45

DaemonFC[m]

Someone the other day wrote an article about how Windows has bad, good, bad, good releases.

Jan 05 02:46

DaemonFC[m]

They listed Windows 98 as a good release. They obviously never used it.

Jan 05 02:46

DaemonFC[m]

I'm pretty certain that the era of major Windows versions is over with.

Jan 05 02:47

DaemonFC[m]

What is there left to do really?

Jan 05 02:47

DaemonFC[m]

Everything lately has been focused on rebranding.

Jan 05 02:53

schestowitz__

as walways

Jan 05 02:54

schestowitz__

not just lately

Jan 05 02:54

schestowitz__

brb coffee

Jan 05 02:54

schestowitz__

Jan 05 03:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds tears into Intel, favors AMD | ZDNet

Jan 05 03:00

schestowitz__

DaemonFC[m]: want to do some more Intel leaks?

Jan 05 03:09

schestowitz__

we have lots

Jan 05 03:09

schestowitz__

amazon shots self in foot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpHXDWIisbY

Jan 05 03:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Migrating a Legacy .NET Framework Application to .NET 5 Using Porting Assistant for .NET - YouTube

Jan 05 03:14

schestowitz__

*shoots

Jan 05 03:14

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Jan 05 03:16

DaemonFC[m]

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/245841/job-posting-confirms-windows-10-ux-overhaul

Jan 05 03:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Job Posting Confirms Windows 10 UX Overhaul - Thurrott.com

Jan 05 03:20

DaemonFC[m]

Someone mentioned Windows Explorer as an "app" that needs polishing.

Jan 05 03:20

DaemonFC[m]

Still no split view after all these years.

Jan 05 03:21

DaemonFC[m]

But they managed to take up a third of the left pane with Onedrive bullshit until you get around to uninstalling that.

Jan 05 03:21

DaemonFC[m]

Plus, the Windows 8 GUI was horrible and people responded to it by bolting a third party start menu back on and using it like Windows 7.

Jan 05 03:22

schestowitz__

after the manual run of remote backup of TM it seems to be failing every morning, creating empty files

DaemonFC[m]

They put a lot of resources into "Metro" just to have it flop.

DaemonFC[m]

This is a lot of back and forth on GUI designs that nobody wants ultimately to end up back with something that works like a prettier Windows 95.

schestowitz__

the local backups on /home work OK, so I guess it's just a setup/permission/IP thing

http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/windows-sliding/

schestowitz__

[03:20] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Job Posting Confirms Windows 10 UX Overhaul - Thurrott.com

Jan 05 03:27

schestowitz__

PR Paul

Jan 05 03:27

schestowitz__

that shows they indeed struggle

Jan 05 03:27

schestowitz__

Jan 05 03:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | According to Statcounter, Microsoft Windows Reaches Lowest Market Share Since 1990s (Now Just 31.8%) | Techrights

Jan 05 03:28

DaemonFC[m]

0.41% of Windows users are still on Vista.

schestowitz__

GE used it

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they had us hop on it over rdesktop to ssh to their debian boxes

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yes, Vista

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in 2020

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over putty actually

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last year, iirc, windows was breaking itself

DaemonFC[m]

I might have that beat.

schestowitz__

so they realised it's stupid for linux-to-linux connections (to patch server) is a bad idea if done over Vista

schestowitz__

also, some of those are samba

DaemonFC[m]

NT 3.51 in 2007.

Jan 05 03:38

schestowitz__

and Microsoft broke, using Windows Update, compatibility with it

Jan 05 03:38

DaemonFC[m]

Companies leave all sorts of old stuff laying around.

Jan 05 03:38

schestowitz__

(of course the Windows thing was NEVER our idea)

schestowitz__

they are changing access methods now

DaemonFC[m]

When Microsoft's focus was on making upgrade license sales they badly fragmented Windows, stopped supporting old versions, and routinely sabotaged them on the way out.

schestowitz__

I heard other things about GE

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they just try to firewall away the threats

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basically run some horrible toys

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then hire

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*hide

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They also used some horrible windows-only thing

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I forgot what it's called

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we used to have a virtual machine set up with windows just to use that

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so...

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rdesktop to windows

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then remote support session

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vista

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then open putty

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ssh to debian

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instead of just debian-to-debian

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5 levels of indirection

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so-called 'security'

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with horrible proprietary crap in between

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last year we shut down that windows vm

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nobody was using it

MinceR

suits love this approach

schestowitz__

count the threats

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windows vm

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windows vista

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some proprietary remote support crap

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and putty

MinceR

presumably they get some kickbacks and get to blame proprietary vendors for the inevitable breaches

schestowitz__

instead of just one: openssh

MinceR

and probably don't think they have anything of value that would be copied or corrupted by an attacker

MinceR

(then again, considering how suits work, the things they do probably helps move things in this direction anyway)

schestowitz__

iirc, you also worked for ge, indirectly

MinceR

i did

schestowitz__

large military and nuke contractor :/

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public sector is better

MinceR

GE is in the public sector :>

schestowitz__

ombudsman, town halls, nhs...

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fewer suits, I assume..

MinceR

oh, wait, i mixed it up

MinceR

sorry, it's obviously private

MinceR

i wouldn't want to work for the government here

schestowitz__

grifting

MinceR

it's incredibly corrupt

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the US has no public sector

MinceR

especially since 2010

schestowitz__

it privatiser everything

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they call it "franchising"

DaemonFC[m]

GE took over and ruined RCA.

schestowitz__

"Jobbik creators!"

MinceR

basically even if a corporation manages to get a business deal with this government, you can tell that corporation is close to the state party

DaemonFC[m]

They had been reeling from a series of bad investments in the 60s and 70s.

MinceR

they don't allow for any sort of productive competition

DaemonFC[m]

Including trying to compete with IBM's mainframe division.

DaemonFC[m]

MinceR: That's how you succeed.

MinceR

yes, in a corrupt state

MinceR

then again, i doubt anything else is left on this cursed globe

DaemonFC[m]

Become too big to fail. Get bailouts. Government contracts. Like Microsoft. Claim you love open source, but it has a lot of security problems only you, the maker of the OS with all of the millions of worms over the last few decades, can provide for it.

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19800078

schestowitz__

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MinceR

at least the USA maintains token competition

MinceR

crApple for microshit, AMD for intel

MinceR

hungary makes no such pretenses

DaemonFC[m]

Microsoft supports the "responsible" usage of open source.

DaemonFC[m]

It has security problems that need to be "managed".

schestowitz__

we lost "source code"

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says Microsoft

DaemonFC[m]

Windows has never had any, you know.

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as if to imply

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that source code must be secret

DaemonFC[m]

They didn't lose source code, Roy.

schestowitz__

and if leaked, it's then a security disk

MinceR

lol

schestowitz__

*risk

DaemonFC[m]

It's not like they woke up one day and it's like "Where did our source code go?".

DaemonFC[m]

The Russians found it! Made more of it.

DaemonFC[m]

They'll be inspecting it for weaponized flaws.

schestowitz__

sounds like... hmmm.,.. free software

schestowitz__

except we don't have to HIDE ours

schestowitz__

anyway...

DaemonFC[m]

da comrade!

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http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights

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"success"

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it's who you know

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not what you accomplish

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money begets more money http://techrights.org/2020/10/25/donald-trump-and-bill-gates/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Donald Trump Helped Bill Gates Increase His Wealth by More Than 50%, Especially During the Pandemic | Techrights

DaemonFC[m]

Oh god. Could you imagine what would even become of this place if Trump had another four years?

Jan 05 03:51

DaemonFC[m]

I fear for what he'll do in the next 15 days.

Jan 05 03:51

DaemonFC[m]

Whatever it is it'll be worse than bad enough.

Jan 05 03:51

DaemonFC[m]

And there's so many idiots who saw what was unfolding, decided that it was just too horrific to acknowledge, like mom and dad, and decided to vote for this guy again.

Jan 05 03:52

schestowitz__

cults

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and social media

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social control

DaemonFC[m]

They didn't want it to happen, they didn't want to feel responsible in any way for it, so they simply refused to "believe" that our country was anything less than "great again".

schestowitz__

with almost 30 trillion in debt

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yay. maga

schestowitz__

great like those 6 trump companies

schestowitz__

great loan ya got there, matey

Jan 05 03:54

DaemonFC[m]

These are like the Germans who kept ignoring Hitler no matter what he did lately, until Germany was in ruins and they were living in occupied rubble.

Jan 05 03:54

DaemonFC[m]

Russia has committed acts of war and we've got Trump up there going "Who knows who did it? Who knows? Could be anyone?".

Jan 05 03:54

DaemonFC[m]

This is unbearable. Each day I have to remind myself it'll be over soon. He'll be gone in like a bit over two weeks.

Jan 05 03:55

DaemonFC[m]

It's been 4 years of oh god is it over yet. Nope. Still happening.

Jan 05 03:57

schestowitz__

Trump was great... for the rich

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legalising their tax crimes

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aka "tax breaks"

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and the corporate media went easy on him... re taxes

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it was focusing on other aspects

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maybe to divide the population

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while the rich get vastly richer and buy the media

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paying salaries to perpetuate those sorts of distraction

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top 500 richest people got 1,800,000,000,000 dollars richer last year

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but look away

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let's focus on "racist" statues

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if only we removed them all, things will be Great Again

schestowitz__

"I cannot buy food for my kids, but the park I go to no longer had that piece of brass"

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*has

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looks like we're moving to Matrix

Jan 05 04:11

schestowitz__

after I had been pushing and they listened

Jan 05 04:11

schestowitz__

but tbh jabber was ok also

Jan 05 04:11

schestowitz__

just got a tip-drop

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re fosdem

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DaemonFC[m]: if you want to cover intel leaks with me, let me know

schestowitz__

we would be better off having multiple takes on the leaks

https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2020q4/003145.html

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Jan 05 04:22

schestowitz__

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fosdem.org | [FOSDEM] Call for Participation: Legal & Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2021

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Diversity Statement

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-------------------

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The organizers of this DevRoom are committed to increasing the

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diversity of the free software movement. To that end, our CFP process

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takes demographic information into account in order to build a program

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that features as many different voices and perspectives as possible.

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If you are comfortable doing so, please share any demographic

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information about yourself in the "Submission Notes". Such disclosure

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is not mandatory by any means.

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Most of them are USians

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60%

MinceR

what a nice way of phrasing bigotry

schestowitz__

> FSFE has now 2 people as organisers of the legal fosdem devroom, before

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> it was organised by only 5 americans.

schestowitz__

Interesting. I will point this out.

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FSFE is largely sponsored by an American company, Google.

MinceR

"we don't want to host your talk because you're white and/or male"

MinceR

doesn't sound quite as nice, does it?

Jan 05 04:29

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- Richard Fontana, Senior Commercial Counsel, Red Hat

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- Matthias Kirschner, President, Free Software Foundation Europe

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- Bradley M. Kuhn, Policy Fellow and Hacker-in-Residence at Software

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Freedom

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Conservancy

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- Alexander Sander, FSFE Policy Coordinator

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- Karen M. Sandler, Executive Director of the Software Freedom

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Conservancy,

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Adjunct Lecturer-In-Law Columbia Law School

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who is Alexander Sander?

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Never heard of it before...

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MinceR: I believe in diversity

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of views

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if that translates into other forms of diversity, fine

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it should boil down to the message

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not identity

http://techrights.org/2019/11/28/diversity-forms/

schestowitz__

Jan 05 04:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Diversity Comes in Many Forms | Techrights

Jan 05 04:32

schestowitz__

Maybe Microsoft SpiedIn has some info on Alexander Sander,

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but I don't want to check

schestowitz__

I'm very suspicious of FSFE these days

schestowitz__

they took Microsoft money, too

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I am going to write something about this

MinceR

if people have interesting views, perhaps there's no need to refer to their race and/or gender as the reason for hosting their talks

MinceR

if they don't, there's no "diversity of views" gained

Jan 05 04:34

schestowitz__

FOSDEM or FOSDEMerica?

Jan 05 04:34

schestowitz__

it also means companies like Microsoft will hire women

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and minorities

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as they become more valuable in getting talks

MinceR

are quotas necessary to make that happen?

schestowitz__

and saturating the events with Microsoft talking points

MinceR

after all, i keep hearing that women get paid less for the same job

schestowitz__

I think the 'problem' is exaggerated by corporations

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because they want to change NGOs

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to better suit their own objectives

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so they name-call

MinceR

this sounds like it would make good economic sense for them to hire as many women as they can, regardless of quotas

schestowitz__

and then offer their 'solutions

MinceR

because it would cost less to pay them

schestowitz__

which they sponsor

http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outreachy as ‘Hush Money’ (Bribe) From Monopolies | Techrights

MinceR

so why the quotas?

http://techrights.org/2021/01/04/fosdem-us/

schestowitz__

can you proofread with me?

Jan 05 04:41

MinceR

i can, but it's rather late so i'm more likely to miss errors now

Jan 05 04:41

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FOSDEM or FOSDEMerica? | Techrights

schestowitz__

better try than not try at all to catch errors

schestowitz__

I didn't go into the whole gender angle

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as it would distract from the main issue

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which is nationality

DaemonFC[m]

<schestowitz__ "DaemonFC: if you want to cover i"> Yeah.

Jan 05 04:46

schestowitz__

cool!

Jan 05 04:47

schestowitz__

give me a few minutes

Jan 05 04:47

schestowitz__

I'll show you slides

Jan 05 04:47

MinceR

"After that blog," seems suspect, sounds more likely it was after a blog post, a sequence of multiple blog posts, or perhaps something happened to the blog?

Jan 05 04:49

schestowitz__

DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/intel2.png

Jan 05 04:51

MinceR

"Some of them felt bad." feels a little unclear, but could be correct

Jan 05 04:51

schestowitz__

MinceR: where?

Jan 05 04:51

*schestowitz__ lacks context

MinceR

"After that blog," is in the paragraph starting with "Proponents of Codes of Conduct in free software organizations see this as a giant conspiracy"

schestowitz__

wait

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maybe you read the older article

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not mine

MinceR

"Some of them felt bad." is the last sentence of the paragraph starting with "The blog was syndicated on Planet Outreach, various other Planet sites and social media."

schestowitz__

the one to read is FOSDEM or FOSDEMerica?

MinceR

oh.

schestowitz__

:-)

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but the other one is also relevant

MinceR

never mind then :)

schestowitz__

I would not rewrite that older one as I am not the author

MinceR

yeah, it was a bit weird

MinceR

but i didn't suspect that there was another URL i should have considered :)

schestowitz__

DaemonFC[m]: also http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/intel3.png

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MinceR: maybe you found the older one of interest regardless

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it's concerning

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because the author spent years in GSoC

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as a mentor

MinceR

the period in "For a change." is not bold, and should be

MinceR

i couldn't find anything else

Jan 05 04:57

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DaemonFC[m]:

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> The full documents are now here for you, please do not share the link!you can now delete it ;-)

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before people who read your mail (spies) download that as well ;-)

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I'll take time to study is carefully with help from a close group.

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MinceR: is it needed to make the full stop bold too?

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I thought not

MinceR

it would look more consistent

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ok, wait

MinceR

after all, the entire sentence is emphasized

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done

MinceR

schestowitz__

now on to Intel

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you can find two slide links above

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watch what they deal with there..

MinceR

png files?

schestowitz__

I will integrate some comments from DaemonFC[m] (last night)

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MinceR: yes, could be jpeg

MinceR

i don't really have context for the slides

Jan 05 05:03

DaemonFC[m]

What are these in regards to?

Jan 05 05:04

DaemonFC[m]

They're really terse with these slides.

Jan 05 05:05

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Jan 05 05:06

MinceR

(cat) https://i.imgur.com/bYXI0WM.jpg

Jan 05 05:14

schestowitz__

do you want the full presentation?

Jan 05 05:18

schestowitz__

I can pass it privately

Jan 05 05:18

schestowitz__

better yet:

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I will show you the draft of my post

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it adds some context

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then you can add quotes on top

MinceR

i should really go to sleep :)

https://medium.com/swlh/what-is-dx-developer-experience-401a0e44a9d9

schestowitz__

Jan 05 05:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Is DX? (Developer Experience) | by Albert Cavalcante | The Startup | Medium

Jan 05 05:23

schestowitz__

DaemonFC[m]: around and about?

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah.

DaemonFC[m]

These slides are out of context.

http://techrights.org/2021/01/05/intel-hard-facts/

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part IV: At Intel, Developer Experience Mean Lots of Microsoft, Surveillance and Proprietary Software | Techrights

schestowitz__

it is very crude

schestowitz__

I have not even PREVIEWED it yet

Jan 05 05:25

schestowitz__

the slides are what's important

Jan 05 05:27

schestowitz__

see if it's coherent at least

Jan 05 05:27

schestowitz__

at the end we'll likely publish the raw documents in full

Jan 05 05:27

MinceR

ah yes, this sort of bullshit plagues every corporation i've seen from the inside

Jan 05 05:28

MinceR

the constant push to force broken proprietary shit on engineers

Jan 05 05:29

schestowitz__

I made some corrections

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inc title

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wait till I get to CoC

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and zdnet

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it'll be a fun series

MinceR

schestowitz__

DaemonFC[m]: still there?

Jan 05 05:34

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Incel Corp.

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"we love women"

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(And Linux)

schestowitz__

esp. WSL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Incel - Wikipedia

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schestowitz__

DaemonFC[m]: anyway, it's done now

schestowitz__

side note, quoteworthy, but definitely NOT for an article: "because its competitor, ARM, is said to have at least one whole team of full-time lawyers under the supervision of a former software developer working furiously to fight the GPL in any way they can and especially to see if they can remove it from software. Such was the case a few years ago, can only predict that it is the same or worse now."

schestowitz__

(only for IRC)

schestowitz__

Seems like some people in Intel might be suffering a similar problem

schestowitz__

in regards to using non-Microsoft

schestowitz__

The ARM angle might need separate leaks

schestowitz__

and maybe even culprits named

schestowitz__

for now, ARM (soon NVIDIA :/ even more anti-GPL) is one alternative we do have

DaemonFC[m]

I was reading it.

DaemonFC[m]

I think that Intel has every reason to move closer to Microsoft's products.

schestowitz__

this is what they do

DaemonFC[m]

At least from their point of view, Microsoft is the big fish as risk of escaping their pond.

schestowitz__

even MSVS and ShitHub

DaemonFC[m]

And if they make successful Windows on ARM products, soon all the OEMs will.

schestowitz__

without Windows, Intel can collapse

schestowitz__

x86 in general

schestowitz__

so AMD also has much to lose

DaemonFC[m]

So it follows that Intel needs to position their CPU/GPU lineup to run Windows very well.

schestowitz__

I don't think ARM matters to Microsoft and vice versa

schestowitz__

the x86 monoculture helped Windows

schestowitz__

not that's ending

DaemonFC[m]

I've noticed that they're scrambling to do the kind of QA work on their drivers that they never cared much about before, on Windows at least.

schestowitz__

I focus on the angle of Intel's betrayal

schestowitz__

and faked "love"

schestowitz__

on the server side

schestowitz__

though many gnu/linux laptops can also dump x86, e.g. chromebooks

schestowitz__

some chromebooks have been arm-based for years

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah, on Chrome OS is doesn't matter too much, I guess. But is there a Linux Container on the Mediatek versions?

Jan 05 06:01

DaemonFC[m]

Lenovo uses Mediatek ARM SoCs on Chromebooks now and I don't know that there's a Linux Container.

https://twitter.com/imadsousou/status/1181302521039482882

schestowitz__

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@imadsousou: I’ve decided to leave Intel. I am honored to have built the Intel Open Source Technology Center (OTC) with the most… https://t.co/eQrlITFT3w

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@imadsousou: I’ve decided to leave Intel. I am honored to have built the Intel Open Source Technology Center (OTC) with the most… https://t.co/eQrlITFT3w

DaemonFC[m]

I don't think that Intel has any plans to stop supporting Linux.

DaemonFC[m]

They did just completely rewrite the graphics driver from the ground up to support Gallium3d.

Jan 05 06:03

DaemonFC[m]

Much of the Classic Mesa infrastructure had been around for years, basically just for them.

Jan 05 06:03

DaemonFC[m]

So they were maintaining a lot more than just rewriting the damned driver.

Jan 05 06:03

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Jan 05 06:08

schestowitz__

iirc, there was a move to make code for windows and linux in the same base

Jan 05 06:10

schestowitz__

and red hat x hackers complained

Jan 05 06:10

schestowitz__

saying it would make a mess with this "unified" code

schestowitz__

hard to maintain

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schestowitz__

David?

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schestowitz__

"ZDNet [is] incorrect about Intel adoption of CoC"

schestowitz__

Ha! thanks!

schestowitz__

Not sure if you will find any more interesting info but I didn't like the push for Microsoft stuff...

schestowitz__

I'm sorting my notes

Jan 05 06:19

schestowitz__

lots more to show about Intel

Jan 05 06:19

schestowitz__

it'll be interesting to see if they start some media charm offensive soon

schestowitz__

as is common when they need a distraction

schestowitz__

to keep people away from the facts

schestowitz__

EPO and IBM do that

https://robertreich.org/post/639423804206120960

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Jan 05 06:49

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah, I thought it was pretty lousy of IBM to send all of the Lotus Symphony code to Apache to rot.

Jan 05 06:52

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz__: My attorney was having trouble getting a document. She said "I hate Microsoft 365!".

Jan 05 06:52

DaemonFC[m]

I mentioned that I use LibreOffice because it's free, compatible, and I too can't stand "cloud" or Microsoft Office.

Jan 05 06:53

DaemonFC[m]

I haven't used Microsoft Office since Office 95.

Jan 05 06:53

DaemonFC[m]

I actually really did like Office 95, but then 97 came out and it had all of that IE horseshit and didn't work on my modified version of Windows 98.

Jan 05 06:54

DaemonFC[m]

So I never bothered to update, and then switched to Star.

Jan 05 06:54

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Jan 05 07:06

schestowitz

just made a 42-minute video about zdnet

Jan 05 07:32

schestowitz

maybe today too it'll take half a day to upload it :/

Jan 05 07:32

schestowitz

[06:52] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz__: My attorney was having trouble getting a document. She said "I hate Microsoft 365!".

Jan 05 07:33

schestowitz

so why use it?

Jan 05 07:33

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Jan 05 08:14

schestowitz

just did another video, this one re qt licensing changes

Jan 05 09:31

schestowitz

Jan 05 09:48

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Jan 05 10:18

vZS1

https://www.businesstelegraph.co.uk/class-action-alleges-coinbase-acted-unlawfully-and-fraudulently-in-listing-xrp-coingeek/

Jan 05 10:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesstelegraph.co.uk | Class action alleges Coinbase acted unlawfully and fraudulently in listing XRP - CoinGeek - Business Telegraph

Jan 05 10:18

schestowitz

look up coinbase wikileaks

schestowitz

if you don't already know

schestowitz

later they did the same to groups other than wikileaks

schestowitz

coinbase should be blacklisted among those who know better

vZS1

> coinbase should be blacklisted among those who know better

Jan 05 10:21

vZS1

Agreed

Jan 05 10:21

vZS1

It's (Coinbase) part of the cabal

Jan 05 10:22

vZS1

Might be worth adding this to the TR wiki

Jan 05 10:22

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Jan 05 10:30

schestowitz

if you get a list of press reports

Jan 05 10:39

schestowitz

we can then make up a page

Jan 05 10:39

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Jan 05 10:40

schestowitz

https://speedtest.btwholesale.com/details says upload 0

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://speedtest.btwholesale.com/details )

schestowitz

i did it thrice

schestowitz

d/w 2.3mb

vZS1

You need to file a complaint. I'm sure that's far less than advertised.

vZS1

That's illegal

Techrights-sec

Speedtest sites may not give accurate results. Many home ISPs prioritized

Techrights-sec

ttraffic to known speedtests and the true values are only known by testing

Techrights-sec

on ohter sites.

schestowitz

ipfs stats bw

schestowitz

Bandwidth

schestowitz

TotalIn: 16 GB

schestowitz

TotalOut: 7.1 GB

schestowitz

that's 7 upload/upstream, right

schestowitz

vZS1

Yeah

vZS1

Some households use that much in an hour

schestowitz

1gb/day

schestowitz

the usual

vZS1

You should definitely contact your ISP

vZS1

If they don't play nice just switch provider. There will be an alternative. Plenty in the UK

vZS1

I get about 3 annoying me every month to switch to them

schestowitz

maybe they will just waste time

schestowitz

reboot this, that

schestowitz

It has only been this bad for maybe 30 hours, so I hope it'll solve itself. Maybe some exchange died somewhere, slowing down upload speeds until they repair it. Many things are possible and I really hate phoning some truly useless and powerless call centre that just follows manuals and won't lift a finger.

schestowitz

the whole tenability of making video is at stake though. There's no workaround, no pigeons for me to send with CD-ROM containing videos across the pond.

http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146048

schestowitz

One MB in 6 minutes

Jan 05 10:50

schestowitz

let me try from another PC...

Jan 05 10:51

schestowitz

pr same speed

Jan 05 10:58

schestowitz

wife cannot use voip

Jan 05 10:59

schestowitz

it cut off a lo

Jan 05 10:59

schestowitz

lot

Jan 05 10:59

schestowitz

I really need to sort this out

Jan 05 11:00

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware-Based Slackel 7.4 Released with Linux Kernel 5.10 LTS, Full Portability | Tux Machines

http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146109

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware-Based Puppy Linux 7.0 Adds UEFI Boot Support, Many Improvements | Tux Machines

schestowitz

attempting upload to london (my personal site)

Jan 05 11:04

schestowitz

very slow as well

Jan 05 11:04

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Jan 05 11:58

schestowitz

just lodged a formal complaint with my ISP. they make it hard to do so, but they frame the issue as a financial one (upgrade) rather than technical and they don't know what's wrong

Jan 05 11:58

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Jan 05 12:08

schestowitz

they have just phoned to tell me my contract does not guarantee upload speeds

Jan 05 12:10

schestowitz

contradicting what was said to me on the phone (very long call) the first time aroudn

Jan 05 12:10

schestowitz

amazing

Jan 05 12:10

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Jan 05 12:13

psydroid

I can see this ending up in a series of articles about ISPs and the politics going on behind the scenes

Jan 05 12:13

schestowitz

I did those ages ago

schestowitz

around 2014 or 2015

schestowitz

I hope not again

schestowitz

because it took up dozens of wastes hours

schestowitz

that I could otherwise, at the time, cover EPO corruption

schestowitz

and it lasted like half a year

schestowitz

I had to argue with them today about who owns the line

schestowitz

and what openreach means to BT

schestowitz

you can imagine where it was going

schestowitz

anyway, after a while they reveal that I can in fact open a complaint

schestowitz

an open they hide until an hour on the line

schestowitz

and they will phone again tomorrow at midday

schestowitz

I am not here, after two rebooted (you can see 6 computers going offline and online)

schestowitz

trying to see if I can work around the issue somehow

schestowitz

he also lied about the test at his end not disconnecting me

schestowitz

I told him not to

schestowitz

he said not to worry, it won't disconnect

schestowitz

but of course it did

schestowitz

not I have a checklist to go through to restore services

Jan 05 12:17

schestowitz

Restarted IP Cisco phone

Jan 05 12:17

schestowitz

(for work)

Jan 05 12:17

schestowitz

RasPi: access over SSH, run stuff in path.sh to start IPFS, then connect remotely to it

schestowitz

Main machine: restart two IRC clients

schestowitz

Connect again to Raspi/other machines

schestowitz

those are just half the tasks

schestowitz

the rest is a bit too personal tp paste

schestowitz

I now have to restart the webm upload :/

schestowitz

after 5 hours of upload elapsed

schestowitz

no option to resume after a router powercycle

schestowitz

of course upload speed is still laughable

http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-040121.html#tJan%2004%2002:24:42

Techrights-sec

The law or regulations migt have obligatory requirements.

Jan 05 12:22

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Jan 05 12:27

psydroid

I wish symmetric fiber internet connections were available everywhere, but it's taking a long time here too

Jan 05 12:31

schestowitz

yeah

Jan 05 12:40

schestowitz

I did tell them assymetric speeds like these are insane, like 100 times faster for download

Jan 05 12:40

schestowitz

cannot even do a voip call

Jan 05 12:41

psydroid

that's absurd, as even I have a residential 30/3 mbps connection here and that's probably a higher upload speed than what you are getting

Jan 05 12:44

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, January 04, 2021

# https://medium.com/@nusenu/how-malicious-tor-relays-are-exploiting-users-in-2020-part-i-1097575c0cac

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nusenu.medium.com | How Malicious Tor Relays are Exploiting Users in 2020 (Part I) | by nusenu | Medium

x https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/4/22212817/microsoft-windows-10-visual-changes-update-sun-valley-2021

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft planning ‘sweeping visual rejuvenation of Windows’ - The Verge

schestowitz

# further losing traction in the market

schestowitz

vZS1: just tried again

schestowitz

voip is unworkable

schestowitz

so no phonecalls now

schestowitz

can that be partly dues to throttling with ipfs in mind?

schestowitz

it only does 1gb/day upstream

schestowitz

2 downstream

https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/105498282097513489

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "Raffensperger acknowledges potential criminal inv…" - Mastodon

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Jan 05 13:28

vZS1_2

schestowitz: highly unlikely it's throttling. Plenty of people use IPFS just fine.

Jan 05 13:30

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Jan 05 13:30

vZS1_2

This is more your ISP being a dickwad

Jan 05 13:30

vZS1_2

schestowitz: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/broadband-uso-need-to-know

Jan 05 13:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ofcom.org.uk | Your right to request a decent broadband service: What you need to know - Ofcom

Jan 05 13:34

vZS1_2

Jan 05 13:35

vZS1_2

From 20 March 2020, if you can’t get a download speed of 10 Mbit/s and an upload speed of 1 Mbit/s, you can request an upgraded connection.

Jan 05 13:35

vZS1_2

Jan 05 13:35

schestowitz

aha

Jan 05 14:37

schestowitz

good

Jan 05 14:37

schestowitz

I will mention this tomorrow

schestowitz

they're scheduled to phone m

schestowitz

*me/us

schestowitz

the connection is still too slow upstream, it's not improving

schestowitz

or barely (I now transfer over the command line to monitor speeds)

Jan 05 14:50

DaemonFC[m]

Torvalds says you got twice the cpu for five times the money with an Intel Xeon so he always used their consumer lineup.

Jan 05 14:50

DaemonFC[m]

The Xeons were mainly different in that they supported ECC RAM.

Jan 05 14:50

DaemonFC[m]

But Apple didn't use ECC RAM in the Mac Pro, and the FirePro graphics cards were just RadeonHD with the firmware set to lie if you asked it.

Jan 05 14:51

DaemonFC[m]

No ECC RAM in those either.

Jan 05 14:51

DaemonFC[m]

Apple's always been cut rate on the hardware and who cares if it performs well or not. Absolutely no fan noise will be tolerated.

Jan 05 14:52

vZS1_2

The UPS I have has quite a loud fan, when it turns on. I guess Apple wouldn't approve.

DaemonFC[m]

So Intel's frequency scaling was broken on the Macs anyway. They set it to run at a low clock speed so that it wouldn't make noise.

schestowitz

cults

schestowitz

like a little sound is heresy

DaemonFC[m]

There's always a nasty surprise when you buy a Mac, and this time it's a bizarre CPU that nothing supports.

schestowitz

vZS1_2: my strategy is, I will keep up the pressure on them

schestowitz

their team leaders has already had it escalated to him, and I speak to a UK call centre (home), not overseas one

DaemonFC[m]

Expensive Chromebook, basically.

vZS1_2

>my strategy is, I will keep up the pressure on them

vZS1_2

You should. You have a right. This is a regulated industry.

DaemonFC[m]

They don't care much about anything except their web browser and the app store.

DaemonFC[m]

I do wonder how long you'll be able to run the real Chrome or Firefox on macOS.

schestowitz

they say they cannot change the config because it's automated... but this is your goddamned equipment

schestowitz

some people stream HD over it, all day long... like that DRM netflix thing

vZS1_2

That's not your problem. That's their problem. They're obliged to give you a certain level of service.

DaemonFC[m]

I mean, Mozilla ported it to the M1, which obviously is a higher priority for them than Linux, where it's the default web browser. They have their priorities wrong.

vZS1_2

Details are irrelevant.

vZS1_2

You don't get minimum obligation, you get them into trouble.

DaemonFC[m]

Because not supporting Linux well encourages people to see it as another crappy bundled browser, like Internet Explorer or Safari.

DaemonFC[m]

You go to load a page, it's broken. The page says to get Chrome.

Jan 05 14:57

vZS1_2

DaemonFC[m]: I saw some "comments" on the Tor browser blog about M1. It looked staged to me.

DaemonFC[m]

On Safari on iOS you get more support than Firefox from websites because Apple uses anticompetitive practices to force everyone to use Safari

DaemonFC[m]

I can't imagine that Apple will be building CPUs that don't end up having hardware bugs.

vZS1_2

Just looked like an absurd M1 plug.

DaemonFC[m]

Most non-x86 CPUs had the same sort of side channel attacks.

Jan 05 14:59

DaemonFC[m]

Including MIPS ones that nobody has supported in years.

Jan 05 14:59

DaemonFC[m]

Microsoft will not be able to successfully transition away from x86. Their UWP and Windows Store strategy didn't work.

Jan 05 15:01

MinceR

(audio) https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qmd3h6kV1R1sjcnrz.mp4

Jan 05 15:02

DaemonFC[m]

A lot of UWP was designed to hide complexities from the user and make Windows software more portable, by it has not been accepted. Most likely, to Intel's delight because if they can't get the store going and can't shove platform-specific binaries to people transparently, then they'll just keep compiling for x86 and nothing changes.

Jan 05 15:02

MinceR

they have another strategy

Jan 05 15:02

MinceR

they're taking over Linux, maybe they'll somehow get systemd too

Jan 05 15:03

vZS1_2

MinceR: IBM already beat them to it.

Jan 05 15:03

MinceR

how long will IBM suits be able to resist their urge to sell it off, though?

Jan 05 15:03

vZS1_2

As long as they can keep convincing investors to buy/hold their shares.

MinceR

"oops, i accidentally sold off the personal computing division"

MinceR

"oops, i accidentally sold off the data storage division"

MinceR

"oops, i accidentally sold off red hat"

vZS1_2

Microsoft is still trying to hold on to the idea that people pay for software. That business model is dead in the water.

Jan 05 15:05

DaemonFC[m]

IBM has been dismantling itself for years. I don't think their PC division was losing money, they just lost interest and sold it for quick cash.

Jan 05 15:06

MinceR

they're still the government-approved gatekeepers of the x86 OS market

Jan 05 15:06

DaemonFC[m]

Like the Chicago parking meter scandal.

Jan 05 15:06

DaemonFC[m]

CEOs are like politicians that aren't going to be around when the results of what they do set in.

Jan 05 15:07

DaemonFC[m]

So like politicians who say we'll take pension funding holidays and sell the parking meters to Citibank, it made sense to sell their PC business to Lenovo.

Jan 05 15:07

DaemonFC[m]

Lots of profit that quarter.

Jan 05 15:07

vZS1_2

IBM gets to steer the "consumer" GNU/Linux because they've got all the nice parts at their disposal. systemd, podman, etc..

Jan 05 15:08

MinceR

the redmond mafia is also trying to make people believe that "Linux" is actually WSL on Backdoors10

Jan 05 15:08

vZS1_2

lol

Jan 05 15:09

DaemonFC[m]

I laughed when RMS said that he was having a hard time criticizing a bank robber because of decades of sitting there watching banks rob the public with no consequences.

Jan 05 15:09

vZS1_2

Man has a point

Jan 05 15:09

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Jan 05 15:10

schestowitz

lol

Jan 05 15:13

schestowitz

vZS1: the connection has gotten slightly faster

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/decisions

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Decisions

schestowitz

as much uploaded since before my nap (2 hours ago) as between 7am and the time they disconnected to test (about 5 hours)

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schestowitz

so about 35mb upstream, per hour

schestowitz

aside from ipfs

schestowitz

(unless it's doing it using the CLI that speeds things up a bit)

DaemonFC[m]

Walmart is running low on groceries again.

DaemonFC[m]

The news talks about where to vacation at.

DaemonFC[m]

It's not meant for you, that's for damned sure. It's a gigantic gaslighting operation. Nothing to see. Move along.

Jan 05 15:21

*schestowitz wants to craft a script to automatically script video uploads to the server

DaemonFC[m]

It's looking about 60% closer to April than a fully stocked store.

*schestowitz sure it was done by many people before

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: we're going to lockdown for a month

schestowitz

I've not left the house for 14 days now

schestowitz

a new record

schestowitz

going into lockdown again

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schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: rianne says walmart might be low on items because people panic-buy or hoard

schestowitz

which, let's face it, hard to blame some

DaemonFC[m]

It is, but this whole thing is depressing. It didn't have to get this bad. It could get better in a matter of weeks if Trump wasn't still at it claiming the virus is overblown and that doctors are lying to people to make him look bad.

Jan 05 15:28

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Jan 05 15:29

DaemonFC[m]

There's no reason to make him look bad. He's a criminal. He's a fucktard. He's got 15 days left in office.

Jan 05 15:29

DaemonFC[m]

The doctors have absolutely no reason to lie.

Jan 05 15:29

vZS1_2

I just realised that KIRC interprets C-j as newline instead of CR.

Jan 05 15:35

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: I think the reason mom doesn't really care if Mandy's immigration case works out is that misery loves company.

DaemonFC[m]

So I've been too depressed to shop for groceries even, for the most part.

vZS1_2

I got so used to stty(1) with "inlcr" that I forgot it wasn't supposed to be like this.

DaemonFC[m]

I feel like I'm on my own in a world that's falling apart, and so it takes a toll on mental health, and then you go try to talk to people and nobody cares.

DaemonFC[m]

Maybe the answer is if this falls apart go oh well I tried and then become cold and detached, for the rest of my life.

Jan 05 15:37

DaemonFC[m]

Seems like how everyone is dealing with this. I've never seen such depravity on display. The worst crisis to ever hit and people just go oh well who cares, isn't me yet.

Jan 05 15:39

DaemonFC[m]

Maybe Congress will send me a few hundred bucks.

Jan 05 15:39

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Jan 05 15:43

DaemonFC[m]

I was listening to NPR talk about how much the states are fucking up vaccine administration.

DaemonFC[m]

Some states have only given 20-30% of the doses they've received so far.

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/antedilution

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Antedilution

DaemonFC[m]

They anticipated that they would offer them and all of the healthcare workers would take them, and then only half do and they have a bunch of doses laying around that nobody wanted.

Jan 05 15:45

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: she voted for a criminal

Jan 05 15:46

schestowitz

who blackmails officials to commit election fraud

Jan 05 15:46

schestowitz

and in ukraine to open bogus, phony cases against a political rival

schestowitz

[15:44] <DaemonFC[m]> I was listening to NPR talk about how much the states are fucking up vaccine administration.\

schestowitz

NPR is Gated-bribed

schestowitz

and they have defamed Gates critics

schestowitz

without even disclosing that Gates is their sponsor

schestowitz

then they blocked (in Twitter) people who merely pointed this out

schestowitz

For now, we don't even know if those vaccines are effective (in any/all cases)

schestowitz

set aside concerns about risks

vZS1_2

Someone I know, who works for the NHS, told me that the Oxford vaccine costs £3 and that the Pfizer vaccine costs £28 (per dose).

Jan 05 15:53

vZS1_2

Almost 10 times as expensive.

Jan 05 15:53

vZS1_2

That's pretty ridiculous

Jan 05 15:53

DaemonFC[m]

Well, they were saying 94% effectiveness and that most people developed protective antibodies 10 days after the first dose.

Jan 05 15:55

DaemonFC[m]

But a week in, 48 people who had been given the first shot contracted the disease at a hospital party (really?) where someone was wearing a "costume with a fan in it".

schestowitz

who is they?

schestowitz

The company?

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah.

schestowitz

lol

schestowitz

tell me when we have good data

vZS1_2

I am willing to distribute concrete statistics

DaemonFC[m]

Literally nobody should have thought it was a good idea to have a Christmas party in a hospital with someone wearing a costume with a fan in it.

schestowitz

you can calculate how much money Billy makes from the whole thing

DaemonFC[m]

These idiots are the health experts, too. Scary.

schestowitz

a patent monopoly basically

schestowitz

and TV puts him on like an expert

schestowitz

talk about how to put people off and incite them against vaccination...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/05/us/loeffler-ossoff-warnock-perdue

DaemonFC[m]

Jan 05 15:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Loeffler, Perdue, Ossoff and Warnock Runoff News: Live Tracker - The New York Times

Jan 05 15:58

DaemonFC[m]

Very low early voting rate in the most conservative counties.

Jan 05 15:58

DaemonFC[m]

"Worrying some Republicans."

schestowitz

we already have reports of people getting COVID (and dying) after taking the viagra company's vaccine

DaemonFC[m]

Well, what do you expect? Letting Trump say fake and corrupt election to the only people listening to him, Republican voters, and not correcting him.

DaemonFC[m]

Then you wonder why you might get wiped out.

DaemonFC[m]

The Democrats invested the campaign money in all the wrong places.

Jan 05 16:00

DaemonFC[m]

Senate races where it was like, you thought you could win in Kentucky.....'

Jan 05 16:00

DaemonFC[m]

Now they have to hope they can win both seats in Georgia, which is unlikely.

DaemonFC[m]

Although possible, I guess.

DaemonFC[m]

Good luck trying to get Democratic voters who don't even seem to remember there is a Senate, to vote.

vZS1_2

If someone has statistics about the vaccine's efficacy, I am interested in reading. No articles, just official reports.

schestowitz

who needs data?

schestowitz

I saw articles

schestowitz

about tom hanks

schestowitz

obama

schestowitz

bush

schestowitz

and chums

schestowitz

and lots of promotional marketing spam about "first person to receive" vaccine

MinceR

no gates?

schestowitz

that's a lot better than statistical data

schestowitz

celeb endorsement

schestowitz

and "happy stories"

schestowitz

about some random old person who took it and isn't dea

schestowitz

*dead

schestowitz

Google News had it on the front page when I checked

schestowitz

and mentioned it in an article

schestowitz

with "fact check" (marketing for vaccines) on the side bar

schestowitz

it's rather nauseating

vZS1_2

I can't find any data.

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schestowitz

viagra company took so much taxpayers money

Jan 05 16:04

schestowitz

it can emit 10% of it for media puff pieces

Jan 05 16:04

schestowitz

and still have lots of cash rolling in

Jan 05 16:04

schestowitz

vZS1_2: me neither

schestowitz

but the vaccine is SO good

schestowitz

that we lock down the whole natio n

schestowitz

for 1-2 monhs

schestowitz

it's really THAT promising

schestowitz

like Christmas "back to normality"... Johnson, July 2020

DaemonFC[m]

This country is basically finished. -George Carlin, 2008

Jan 05 16:09

vZS1_2

That's pretty much what's driving me around the bend as well

Jan 05 16:09

vZS1_2

If the vaccine is so good why on earth do we need a lockdown

Jan 05 16:09

schestowitz

that was when the economy collapsed for good

schestowitz

since then it has been a zombie, faking it

DaemonFC[m]

Even if it was good, they're fucking up the delivery.

schestowitz

see how national debt inflated since

schestowitz

even prior to it with the oil wars post-9/11

schestowitz

they just kick the can down the road/street

DaemonFC[m]

Playing Keystone Kops. Prioritizing people when they can't manage that and it would be better to give it to random people to at least administer what they have.

schestowitz

covid19 exposed the ploy prematurely

schestowitz

and the capital was robbed (asset-stripping) by the oligarchy of the West, like USSR decades earlier

Jan 05 16:11

DaemonFC[m]

They're prioritizing people where half of them are refusing the vaccine.

Jan 05 16:11

DaemonFC[m]

Then throwing out doses or scrambling to find random people to dose anyway.

Jan 05 16:11

DaemonFC[m]

This would be laughable if anything about it was funny.

vZS1_2

More importantly

schestowitz

they need confidence

schestowitz

show data

schestowitz

not celeb endorsement

schestowitz

like tom hanks

schestowitz

and george w bush, war criminal\

vZS1_2

For the Assange trial, we have the judgement PDFs. We don't need the "news"

vZS1_2

Where the hell is the data for these vaccines

schestowitz

i could find none (yet)

vZS1_2

I could also find none

DaemonFC[m]

They should hang him.

schestowitz

but the media has better things than data, which read like commercials

vZS1_2

And I don't think either of us are that incompetent at finding some bloody data

schestowitz

if only 100 people received it...

schestowitz

but not 100 million

DaemonFC[m]

People make false equivalence between Trump and Clinton.

schestowitz

btw, nations that gave it to many people still go into lockdown

DaemonFC[m]

Like they were both bad so why does it matter.

schestowitz

so they lack confidence in that strategy

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines

vZS1_2

All I want for Christmas is data. But I got none.

Jan 05 16:14

vZS1_2

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.who.int | COVID-19 vaccines

vZS1_2

There's just a bunch of information about trials and frameworks for trials

vZS1_2

Nothing on efficacy

vZS1_2

Nothing that I could find, at least.

vZS1_2

vZS1_2

There are currently more than 50 COVID-19 vaccine candidates in trials. WHO is working in collaboration with scientists, business, and global health organizations through the ACT Accelerator to speed up the pandemic response. When a safe and effective vaccine is found, COVAX (led by WHO, GAVI and CEPI) will facilitate the equitable access and distribution of these vaccines to protect people in all countries. People most at risk will be pr

vZS1_2

vZS1_2

" While we work towards rolling out a safe and effective vaccine fairly, we must continue the essential public health actions to suppress transmission and reduce mortality."

MinceR

CoVox

Jan 05 16:19

schestowitz

WHO...

Jan 05 16:19

schestowitz

I don't trust what they did in recent years

Jan 05 16:19

schestowitz

taking money from vaccine interests

vZS1_2

All that aside

schestowitz

which by WHO's own admission corrupts WHO

vZS1_2

Where is the data?

schestowitz

FDa maybe

schestowitz

some people vetoed the vaccines there

schestowitz

and Trump loosened rules

schestowitz

'coz emergency'

schestowitz

worse cases scenario there are long-term side effects

schestowitz

lesser: the vaccines are useless

vZS1_2

"There are currently more than 50 COVID-19 vaccine candidates IN TRIALS"

vZS1_2

_IN TRIALS_

vZS1_2

So where's the data for the trials even?

schestowitz

in which case money down the drain and distraction from possible real and effective solution

schestowitz

who are the trials on?

vZS1_2

The WHO page just looks like a puff piece page

schestowitz

poor tribes?

schestowitz

easy to get all cynical about it

vZS1_2

"Latest vaccine _news_"

schestowitz

Bill Gates was quoted by the "media" as saying all the vaccines are good

schestowitz

or something to that effect

schestowitz

I can search it

schestowitz

and Gates is a vaccine scientist, of course

schestowitz

not a shareholder or something

https://ircz.de/p/20121920

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5110174)

vZS1_2

"Feature Stories"

schestowitz

he didn't say if Sputnik-V is also good

schestowitz

prof. Gates knows all

vZS1_2

"Multimedia"

schestowitz

the media is all 'bill sez"

vZS1_2

But where "Data"?

vZS1_2

And this is the WHO.

Jan 05 16:23

vZS1_2

Not very encouraging

Jan 05 16:23

MinceR

WHO, bought by red china

Jan 05 16:23

vZS1_2

In most countries, you need to at least put a little paper leaflet with statistics about the medication being sold.

vZS1_2

So where is that even, for these "vaccines"

vZS1_2

My rabies, hepatitis, etc. vaccines all came with these little leaflets

vZS1_2

But I haven't seen any for these COVID vaccines

schestowitz

too easrly

schestowitz

expedited

schestowitz

no docs yet

schestowitz

but pay up

schestowitz

100 million per month from taxpayers

schestowitz

the docs will come "real soon"

schestowitz

from the company

schestowitz

not health ministries

DaemonFC[m]

Approval by tweet.

Jan 05 16:28

schestowitz

glorified tweet

schestowitz

the biggest tweets

schestowitz

big league

schestowitz

trump tweet

schestowitz

framed

schestowitz

printed

schestowitz

and presented to senate

schestowitz

"this is safe"

schestowitz

"look, I even printed a banner with a trump tweet on it"

schestowitz

"40,000 likes"

schestowitz

"and it was trending with a little text next to it, 'Sponsored by Pfizer"..."

schestowitz

(Twitter sells "trending" placements... no kidding)

schestowitz

So it's trending, but not really

schestowitz

some things are "more trending" than others

schestowitz

"click here to find out more"

schestowitz

portal.twitter.com/products

*psydroid has the feeling the entire internet has become one big advertisement, so supposes the goals have finally been met

Jan 05 16:31

vZS1_2

We will see how effective these "vaccines" are by the end of 2021.

Jan 05 16:31

schestowitz

hey

schestowitz

"boris" said normality

schestowitz

by xmas

schestowitz

he didn't say which YEAR

MinceR

Jan 05 16:35

schestowitz

vZS1_2 correctly asserted nationwide lockdown

schestowitz

and was only 10 days 'off'

schestowitz

said xmas/boxing day

schestowitz

I think the latter

schestowitz

it's effective today, jan 5th

schestowitz

and for 1-2 months

vZS1_2

Yeah. I called boxing day

schestowitz

upside is, for me, I still have my job

schestowitz

downsize is, it's crush what's left of the economy

schestowitz

I'll have more time to write

schestowitz

no access to a local store to buy proper mic/cam

schestowitz

and no access to a soldering kit I need for my raspi 4

schestowitz

but I can delay that

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schestowitz

we also need to do home repair, which will get complicated when people cannot enter the home

schestowitz

again, not so critical

vZS1_2

You can't lock down an entire country for so long and expect things to be back to "normal"

schestowitz

I had to assembly a washing machine myself last year, as you were not allowed to let installers inside the home (the older machine broke down)

schestowitz

*assemble

schestowitz

vZS1_2: it's too late now

vZS1_2

People are going to ignore the lockdown measures

schestowitz

the people we know are unemployed an without hope

schestowitz

people who must have physical access to do their job

schestowitz

vZS1_2: boy johnson

schestowitz

the boy who cried wolf

schestowitz

the third time he calls lockdown people might not obey

schestowitz

and then he calls for tougher measure

vZS1_2

I suspect there will be mass protests and riots very soon

schestowitz

Mayor "water cannon" Johnson

schestowitz

that was a giveaway of what an autocrat he was

vZS1_2

Possibly in the next 30-60 days

schestowitz

and all his photo ops with criminal trump

schestowitz

who blackmails officials to engage in election fraud... for HIM

vZS1_2

People's savings are running dry

schestowitz

if they have any

vZS1_2

Indeed

schestowitz

bank did a mortgage "holiday"

schestowitz

not jubilee

schestowitz

as if to tell us, "you'll be OK in a few months"

schestowitz

our next door neighbour left

schestowitz

I assume she lacked income

schestowitz

the house was put on sale

schestowitz

we bid

schestowitz

they sellers cannot have their pro-covid prices/estimates met

schestowitz

we bid very low

schestowitz

selling one's house does not help

schestowitz

people cannot get mortgages

schestowitz

not with another lockdowns

vZS1_2

There is no universal support system to cope with this mass (suspension of|un)employment.

schestowitz

the banks are corrupt, but not sicidal

schestowitz

the gov. bails out Bill and Pfizer, not banks

schestowitz

over the past 12 days I tried to withdraw my pension

schestowitz

and they stonewall

vZS1_2

There will be mobs out on the streets if this lockdown persists for much longer

schestowitz

or send template text

schestowitz

or won't even answer my question

schestowitz

or ask for papers I cannot provide due to lockdown

schestowitz

that's like airlines a year ago

schestowitz

making it harder to get refunds for flights

schestowitz

seeing that shtf

vZS1_2

I get ads from airlines to buy tickets on a daily basis. It's just a sham, at this point.

schestowitz

extended lockdown will give me more time (already 12 days of wasted docs) to drain them before they collapse

schestowitz

vZS1_2: weird times, aye?

Jan 05 16:44

vZS1_2

Boris is playing with fire. He better be careful.

Jan 05 16:44

schestowitz

I have done lots of holistic thinking the past year, as did many other people... about how the money is distributed, meaning of work, who the money is owed to, and what really goes on inside countries that don't speak about COVID

schestowitz

I didn't expect the economy to collapse this fast... and overpopulation as catalyst for unemployment to become this severe so fast

schestowitz

so the talk "bullshit jobs"

schestowitz

many jobs have long been just that

schestowitz

and now is the reckoning time

schestowitz

iirc, "Boris" (Alex) is of Estonian descent

Jan 05 16:46

schestowitz

and he might make us the next Belarus

Jan 05 16:46

schestowitz

with riots over collapse of social order and political consent

Jan 05 16:46

schestowitz

bullshitjobs https://www.c-span.org/video/?446716-2/bullshit-jobs

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Bullshit Jobs] | C-SPAN.org

vZS1_2

People are not consenting to these lockdowns. They're a knee-jerk reaction. But the tolerance is wearing thing very quick.

MinceR

(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/19/bd23b72b3fa61489.mp4

vZS1_2

s/thing/thin

schestowitz

[16:47] <vZS1_2> People are not consenting to these lockdowns. They're a knee-jerk reaction. But the tolerance is wearing thing very quick.

schestowitz

because prior ones evidently did not work

schestowitz

except very loosely, temporarily

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vZS1_2

Whatever the reasons. The population is getting restless with these suspension-of-everything policies. Unless you are a big business, of course. Then you can keep operating

vZS1_2

Eg. WH Smith is open

vZS1_2

I saw it open when I went into town today

vZS1_2

I don't think you can call that "essential" to anyone.

schestowitz

BTW, they still want me to get "app"

schestowitz

i.e. "phone"

schestowitz

for lots of things, inc. gov./town hall stuff

schestowitz

those are like RFIDs

schestowitz

they can use them for "stay-home" enforcement and fining

vZS1_2

If they could, they'd chip people like dogs.

schestowitz

Wilko is also open

schestowitz

and they don't cover non-essential items like they're supposed to

schestowitz

so they hoard all the sale

schestowitz

not to mention online giants/etailers like amazon

schestowitz

not even local

schestowitz

and not paying taxes

vZS1_2

Plenty of Amazon deliveries come into my area on a daily basis

vZS1_2

Deliveroo still operating as normal as well

schestowitz

serf economy

schestowitz

"gig"

vZS1_2

They get special treatment. You could hardly call Deliverro essential

Jan 05 16:52

vZS1_2

But they can access homes just fine

Jan 05 16:52

vZS1_2

This is starting to stink and stink very bad

Jan 05 16:52

vZS1_2

This is a person, touching things, visiting multiples homes an hour (forget day).

Jan 05 16:53

vZS1_2

They don't even wear gloves

Jan 05 16:54

MinceR

(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6CEKphkOoQ

Jan 05 16:54

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Jan 05 16:54

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Jan 05 16:56

vZS1_2

So why can't, for example, a hairdresser, keep their shop open. They always wear gloves and sanitise their workspace.

Jan 05 16:56

schestowitz

don't forget....

schestowitz

the food

vZS1_2

Or a chippy shop where they need to clean their workspace all the time

schestowitz

that they deliver

schestowitz

was handled (manual) by several other people

vZS1_2

Yea

schestowitz

including boxes and packaging

schestowitz

which is a point I often made wrt war on cash

schestowitz

they can use sanitiser at the till

schestowitz

but they cannot have it when handling dough and pastry

schestowitz

yet cash... DIRTY

schestowitz

food, clean

vZS1_2

And you don't eat cash

schestowitz

I'm not buying the other excuses and I spoke to some shops

schestowitz

one of which died

schestowitz

they say the shops just don't want to handle fees associated with cash handling

schestowitz

and risk of getting armed robbers

schestowitz

so nothing to do with COVID

schestowitz

all to do with exploiting it for cost-saving and spying

MinceR

05 175657 < vZS1_2> So why can't, for example, a hairdresser, keep their shop open. They always wear gloves and sanitise their workspace.

MinceR

they breathe close to the client during the entire procedure, in a small enclosed space

schestowitz

when I got my haircut weeks ago I kept a mask on, but they breathe not far from eyes and stuff

schestowitz

MinceR: yeah

schestowitz

beat me to it

schestowitz

aerosols and all

vZS1_2

People breathe close to you in a supermarket

vZS1_2

And smaller corner shops

schestowitz

depends

vZS1_2

Those are small enclosed spaces

schestowitz

go at quiet times

schestowitz

then you get 10 meter distancing

schestowitz

and then we wash ALL the items we bought

schestowitz

I really don't want this virus near me and her

vZS1_2

Walked around in the shops today and many people are right next to each other looking for things

schestowitz

I want to be productive here, not to lie in bed like I did after my birthday for eating bad things

vZS1_2

They don't really enforce social distancing unless you're queued at the checkot

schestowitz

*lay

vZS1_2

checkout*

schestowitz

vZS1_2: choose other stores

schestowitz

what?

schestowitz

what's that?

schestowitz

schestowitz

the machine they make you touch

schestowitz

to serve yourself

schestowitz

to do the staff's work

vZS1_2

They don't even have sanitiser at the checkout

schestowitz

and touch a machine touched by 100 people before you in the same day

vZS1_2

self or not

schestowitz

without any sanitation

vZS1_2

Yeah

schestowitz

I never ever used those machines

vZS1_2

The only place with sanitiser at the machine was my bank

schestowitz

sometimes they operated these next to me

schestowitz

but at least they kept their job that way

schestowitz

sanitation is expensive

schestowitz

staff is expensive

schestowitz

so touch the grubby machine

schestowitz

and don't ask our staff to do... well, the staff's job

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schestowitz

turns out, rianne says that in lidl nobody wants to use the machine

schestowitz

one very long queue

schestowitz

and that's how they try to push people to work for free

MinceR

05 180034 < vZS1_2> People breathe close to you in a supermarket

MinceR

and it is indeed unsafe

schestowitz

make the queue painfully long

vZS1_2

I know it's unsafe

schestowitz

and offer an alluring/seductive alternative nearby

MinceR

i have my groceries shipped to my home instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4JX7qlGa8

DaemonFC[m]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"If I get corona, I get corona": Miami spring-breaker issues apology over viral comments - YouTube

schestowitz

but then they risk losing actual customers

vZS1_2

What I'm trying to say is that the lockdowns are not really lockdowns

MinceR

still, at least people would be in contact for a shorter time in supermarkets

vZS1_2

preferential treatment to the big businesses

vZS1_2

everybody else can go stuff themselves

schestowitz

because they control policy

vZS1_2

sink or swim

schestowitz

that's not a new problem per se

schestowitz

social control media is helping them gather intel

schestowitz

and repress uprising

schestowitz

"at scale"

schestowitz

they build social graphs

vZS1_2

You get shut down unless you're Lidl or a bank

schestowitz

they can spot early attempts to congregate

vZS1_2

or WH Smith

vZS1_2

"essential"

schestowitz

WIlko

schestowitz

60k new cases https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Covid-19 in the UK: How many coronavirus cases are there in your area? - BBC News

vZS1_2

Yes. I really need to buy from Wilko. Will die without shopping at Wilko.

schestowitz

how many of the got 'the' vaccine already

vZS1_2

And the chancellor Sunak already said furlough is not going to last forever

schestowitz

woah

schestowitz

look at northern ireland

schestowitz

it has spread very fast there

vZS1_2

People will get fed up soon enough

schestowitz

(based on testing anyway)

schestowitz

[17:07] <vZS1_2> And the chancellor Sunak already said furlough is not going to last forever

schestowitz

so start with UBI

schestowitz

if we can afford it and, if so, at what levels

schestowitz

200 quid a might can cover bill but not rent

schestowitz

unless you want people living in bunk beds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4i9Ap6dCg

DaemonFC[m]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spring-breakers express frustration over coronavirus precautions in Miami - YouTube

schestowitz

which would spread covid... people have boyfriends and girlfrends...

DaemonFC[m]

"We're just trying to get drunk before everything closes! Like oh my glob. They just want me for my hot lumps! And I said, BRAD ISN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO MEEEE AT ALL!!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmC1vknpqgg

schestowitz

LOL

Jan 05 17:10

vZS1_2

It's not going to be a surprise if people start ignoring the lockdown wholesale. There's no support mechanism and people need to survive.

Jan 05 17:11

DaemonFC[m]

Jan 05 17:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LSP (Lumpy Space Princess) Montage - YouTube

Jan 05 17:13

DaemonFC[m]

Adventure Time predicted the Coronavirus.

Jan 05 17:17

DaemonFC[m]

"I'm doing so great out here on my own. I found this can of beans. Wait, Melissa, I've gotta go. They're getting into my toilet paper!"

vZS1_2

lol

schestowitz

vZS1_2: no support mechanism... important point

schestowitz

not even social support network/group

schestowitz

as they call them

schestowitz

no connection to fake ones

schestowitz

like FB "friends"

schestowitz

and social control media at large

schestowitz

but rather empathy by human interaction, direct

schestowitz

many people I know depend on that

schestowitz

they live for it

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah, and when the shit hits the fan, start asking those Facebook friends for help.

DaemonFC[m]

Not a single person will give a flying fuck.

schestowitz

and it's spied on

DaemonFC[m]

If your own relatives don't care what's about to happen to you, why would some random person on Facebook?

schestowitz

I heard that

schestowitz

this is why people kill themselves

schestowitz

realising nobody really ever cared aboyt them

schestowitz

not even at times of emotional distress and financial hardship

schestowitz

each to his/her own

vZS1_2

What social media participants fail to realise is that they're actually advertising things for free and not getting anything back in return. They essentially all "work" for Facebook, Twitter, etc..

schestowitz

cause of point: your sis in law, DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz

vZS1_2: it's an art form

schestowitz

and they get people addicted to them

schestowitz

conflating "companies' with 'friends"

vZS1_2

"friends" = "affiliates"

schestowitz

it started from farmville

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/technology/farmville-zynga-facebook.html

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | FarmVille Once Took Over Facebook. Now Everything Is FarmVille. - The New York Times

schestowitz

this is days old

schestowitz

someone sent it to me

schestowitz

"Then, that June, came FarmVille. If you weren’t among the tens of millions of people tending a cartoon patch of land on Facebook each day, piling up an endless stream of cutesy collectibles, you were still getting copious nags and nudges from your friends asking for help. The game either pulled Facebook users into an obsession or persistently reminded them that they were missing out on one."

schestowitz

Rianne used to play that "game"

schestowitz

and ask friends to waste their time too

schestowitz

network effect, social control networks

schestowitz

obviously she quit fb not long after we first met (2011)

vZS1_2

They're very clever. They got billions of people to work for them, for free. And governments bail them out and give them taxpayer money.

schestowitz

she would wake up at night before that... to "farm" in FarmVille

vZS1_2

They go to court and come out scott-free every time.

schestowitz

it's crazy

schestowitz

worse than Tamaguchi

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah, before I quit Facebook I disabled the app platform because people would invite me to use apps I didn't care about.

schestowitz

Twitter was the same

schestowitz

spam 'invites"

schestowitz

it stopped at some point, not sure why

DaemonFC[m]

Like, nothing matters in life. I can tell you why these freemium apps are so popular. It's the existential dread that people are going through.

schestowitz

boredom also

DaemonFC[m]

Life is pointless, nothing means anything, and nobody's supposed to be anywhere.

schestowitz

trying to feel productive

schestowitz

take selfie

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah, like church.

schestowitz

spend an hour liking everything in your timeline

schestowitz

then they reciprocate blidnly

schestowitz

achievement of the day: posted selfies, gave 1000 "likes", got 100

vZS1_2

like+share

vZS1_2

Train our HEY HI

schestowitz

popularity content

schestowitz

contest

schestowitz

albeit a totally virtual and meaningless one

vZS1_2

It is very meaningful

vZS1_2

Makes their advertising systems more effective

schestowitz

you can solve the world's problems with "likes"

schestowitz

"like" the anti-Trump tqweets

schestowitz

that will stop him

DaemonFC[m]

Thoughts and prayers.

schestowitz

when those tweets reach cumulative one billion "likes" he's automatically impeached

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah, the 30th amendment or something.

DaemonFC[m]

I think we read about that.

vZS1_2

Facebook started advertising on YouTube. A friend of mine in Sweden showed me the add. I think they are in some trouble.

vZS1_2

There seems to be an exodus away from social media

vZS1_2

People see how toxic it is

schestowitz

"Sorry, mr. trump, we counted the number of likes in FB and twitter. YOU ARE FIRED"

vZS1_2

So they turn to the third world

DaemonFC[m]

Well, it works the other way too.

vZS1_2

TikTok, FB, etc are seeing largest growth in India, for example.

schestowitz

[17:27] <vZS1_2> There seems to be an exodus away from social media

DaemonFC[m]

He was buying spambots to like his posts. Make it seem like he was adored.

schestowitz

I've been waiting for this for over a decade

schestowitz

and often asked aloud (friends), what comes AFTER?

schestowitz

because I don't know

scientes

XRevan86, in the last sermon (which is not part of the Koran) Mohammed said that the black is not greater than the white, not the white over the black, except in matters of piety. There is also something similar in the Koran, in chapter 33 on confederate (foreign) tribes. This is why I hesitate to agree that there is such a thing as too much religion. While it is OK to say someone is doing it wrong, and I suggested that each chapter be

scientes

treated as its own emotion, and it appears that the Homeric hymns are taking this strategy to Homer, as a way to avoid worshiping Mohammad in an attempt to understand the Koran (and male competition naturally tries this).

schestowitz

last week I asked someone how this tiktok thing works

DaemonFC[m]

Twitter doesn't even know how many fake accounts are out there mostly to like Trump's tweets so they're just clearing out all of the followers on the government accounts after he's gone.

schestowitz

rianne_ knows more than me, though she never used it

schestowitz

I think some youtube channels she follows show it

DaemonFC[m]

It's not like they have an incentive to figure out how many fake accounts are liking things.

vZS1_2

TikTok is basically like Vine. Short video clips

DaemonFC[m]

Inflates the number of accounts that are shown advertisements.

vZS1_2

TikTok is also an advertising platform

scientes

vZS1_2, YouTube also has something similar now too, in the Android and iOS apps.

schestowitz

[17:28] <DaemonFC[m]> It's not like they have an incentive to figure out how many fake accounts are liking things.

schestowitz

I said it mant yimes

scientes

vZS1_2, TikTok also is an advertising platform for the CCCP

vZS1_2

But even more aggresively optimised for advertising

schestowitz

also twitter

schestowitz

one hand typing :/

vZS1_2

Most TikTok users want to become "influencers" that get paid based on "likes" and "shares"

schestowitz

holding coffee

scientes

vZS1_2, they often get paid before they have any fame

DaemonFC[m]

And it's a place for those "employment background check" parasites to harvest information about you.

schestowitz

I still don't know what some of the chat apps look like

scientes

vZS1_2, anyways, it is just Twitter of video---a complete waste of time, and impossible to say something using their pulpit that isn't noise

schestowitz

I think Instagram is just for photo manipulation, likes, comments

vZS1_2

It's a simple ecosystem. You get consumers all on it and then get a few of those users to become your marketers. They don't even need a marketing department, that way.

DaemonFC[m]

Did you see the JWZ blog post where a friend of his applied for a job and some company printed out and mail several _HUNDRED_ pages of his tweets where he liked or said something that "may reflect negatively".

scientes

it is not an ecosystem

schestowitz

it's hard to properly understand those things when you never used them

DaemonFC[m]

It's a social reputation score.

scientes

vZS1_2, have you taken a biology class?

scientes

do you know what an ecosystem is?

DaemonFC[m]

They make you use your real name because then it's easier for these people to find you and start harvesting things.

vZS1_2

DaemonFC[m]: many birds, one stone.

schestowitz

Google used to email me asking me to do interviews for jobs

DaemonFC[m]

They screw you out of a job where 20 years ago if you were out doing and saying things on your own time, nobody would know.

schestowitz

over the year

schestowitz

*years

DaemonFC[m]

Sell it for pennies.

schestowitz

that stopped after i joined Twitter and stuff

schestowitz

"joined"

XRevan86

scientes: When an atheist book makes such observations no one blinks an eye

schestowitz

it was merely a copy of identi.ca (FOSS), exported from it

DaemonFC[m]

It's just too much of a liability to say things using your own name these days.

DaemonFC[m]

It can come up anywhere, at any time, completely out of context even.

DaemonFC[m]

They don't care.

vZS1_2

Social media platforms are all advertising platforms. That's their main source of revenue.

scientes

XRevan86, touché

DaemonFC[m]

Some company they paid said you were dodgy.

vZS1_2

Unlike before, you don't do TV ads now. You get "influencers" to create "content" about your product.

schestowitz

true

schestowitz

seen that

schestowitz

I am against youtube because of it

schestowitz

and the people who do this are fakers

DaemonFC[m]

Mandy uses Facebook.

schestowitz

they only highlight numbers of their best videos/months/weeks

schestowitz

to give a false impression of their reach/financioal gain

DaemonFC[m]

There's no telling what gets compiled about him from there. It's a bad idea to use it.

schestowitz

17 years ago I saw many adsense posers online

vZS1_2

There's still a lot of great material on YouTube. But it's infested with "influencers" much more than before.

schestowitz

not shills of google, just posers

schestowitz

people pretending to make a living off Google ads

schestowitz

[17:33] <DaemonFC[m]> Mandy uses Facebook.

DaemonFC[m]

Trump had Social Security make a regulation that lets them consider your social media posts if you're on disability and trying to renew your benefits.

schestowitz

In Soviet Russia, YOU use FB

schestowitz

In the rest of the world, FB used YOU

DaemonFC[m]

They wouldn't be trying to do it if they didn't think it would lead to "evidence".

schestowitz

*uses

schestowitz

vZS1_2: we need to build networks around trust, not "viral" and spam

schestowitz

many linux blogs I followed for years became sEO and spam farms

schestowitz

without even changing owners

schestowitz

the recipe is familiar

DaemonFC[m]

All they want is "evidence" even if it doesn't mean anything. It lets them justify denials and say "Welp, there was a picture of you fishing.".

schestowitz

puff piece about unrelated topics, with some embedded links linking to the "sponsor" of that spam

schestowitz

I reckon they do this for only few bucks

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: So the only way to win is not to play the game.

schestowitz

and the few readers they still had over RSS are gone

DaemonFC[m]

If you don't use those platforms, there won't be data for them to get out of them about you.

schestowitz

then the site shuts down, zero audience, reduced to spam farm

schestowitz

they 'monetise' it to death

schestowitz

IRC is not social conttrol media

schestowitz

afaik, freenode is not selling data

schestowitz

and this is public anyway, logged

DaemonFC[m]

Private Internet Access owns it.

schestowitz

schestowitz

freenode?

schestowitz

when did that happen?

https://ircz.de/p/20071755

XRevan86

scientes: Also, I am not sure what that means exactly.

Jan 05 17:38

schestowitz

not that PIA is evil BTW

Jan 05 17:38

scientes

XRevan86, I think you already said it

Jan 05 17:38

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4762288)

schestowitz

bottleneck for us this week is upload speeds

schestowitz

I need to upload over 300mb of video

schestowitz

I have the articles ready

schestowitz

but cannot post until the videos are "up there"

schestowitz

some are about Intel leaks!

*vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2)

XRevan86

scientes: No, I dodged the specifics.

XRevan86

scientes: Because I don't know what are the black and the white that are compared.

DaemonFC[m]

<schestowitz "when did that happen?"> A few years ago I think.

schestowitz

brb

XRevan86

scientes: Is it a skin tone (ethnic) thing? Or is it a collar (social class) thing?

Jan 05 17:41

XRevan86

Or something else entirely

Jan 05 17:41

scientes

islam does not have social classes

scientes

well, except slaves

DaemonFC[m]

The founder of freenode was pretty much embezzling the funds for personal use.

DaemonFC[m]

But he died back in 2006 after a car hit him.

XRevan86

scientes: No distinction between the elites and peasants?

Jan 05 17:45

scientes

not in islam

Jan 05 17:45

XRevan86

No divine power to the monarch?

scientes

only the prophet

XRevan86

Doesn't like to share, eh :)

scientes

"His wives are your mothers"---33:X

schestowitz

Jan 05 17:47

XRevan86

scientes: Prophet's?

Jan 05 17:47

scientes

I just read it, let me look up the full quote

Jan 05 17:47

*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/kxQIdCCDsIEZEajeGgLlWcuV/message.txt >

Jan 05 17:49

DaemonFC[m]

...

Jan 05 17:49

DaemonFC[m]

Four times higher than reported, and 35% more deaths than the official figure.

Jan 05 17:49

DaemonFC[m]

+849 deaths today with just 8 states reporting so far.

Jan 05 17:50

XRevan86

Could've been a worse disparity

Jan 05 17:50

scientes

"The Prophet has a greater claim on the faithful than they have on each other. His wives are their mothers."--33:6

Jan 05 17:51

XRevan86

scientes: A holy father? Who would've figured…

Jan 05 17:53

XRevan86

interesting wording

Jan 05 17:53

scientes

it is of course a translation

Jan 05 17:54

scientes

but I like this translation--N.J. Dawood, who also has a good translation of 1001 Arabian Nights

Jan 05 17:54

XRevan86

> Пророк ближе к верующим, чем они сами, а его жены — их матери.

Jan 05 17:54

scientes

looks pretty similar

XRevan86

> Пророк (Мухаммад) ближе к верующим (по Вере и в мирских вопросах), чем они сами (друг к другу), а его жены – их матери [жены Пророка чтимы и запретны для верующих, как и их собственные матери].

scientes

[][][][][]

scientes

that is the problem with most translations

MinceR

XRevan86

clarifications aplenty

scientes

muddifications

XRevan86

fair

scientes

also a nice pun in English :)

XRevan86

The proper antonym to "clear" would be "obscure"

Jan 05 17:57

XRevan86

clarity, obscurity

Jan 05 17:57

scientes

yeah, but that wouldn't be a pun

Jan 05 17:57

scientes

and in Spanish miedo de la oscuridad

scientes

fear of the dark

scientes

which I am not going for

XRevan86

"obfuscation"

schestowitz

vZS1: just showed up in Google News https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/linux-foundation-public-health-expands-technology-and-public-health-community-accelerates-the-fight-against-covid-19-301194096.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Linux Foundation Public Health Expands Technology and Public Health Community, Accelerates the Fight Against COVID-19

schestowitz

your fav fake 'NGO'

scientes

XRevan86, https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator: The single instruction C compiler

schestowitz

get your phone and "app" and contact-tracing

https://ircz.de/p/20071737

schestowitz

for the SAKE OF LINUX

Jan 05 17:59

schestowitz

endorsed by George W Bush and Tom Hanks will wait for his turn to get the "app"

Jan 05 17:59

MinceR

Jan 05 18:00

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Jan 05 18:00

XRevan86

scientes: How risc-y

Jan 05 18:00

scientes

made me smile

Jan 05 18:02

XRevan86

scientes: MinceR pic puns or my pun?

scientes

yours

scientes

not much of a pun

scientes

reducto ad absurdum

scientes

literally

XRevan86

True that :)

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: This whole lockdown thing and the location tracking makes me thing....we're all probationers now.

DaemonFC[m]

Nothing like turning your phone off and storing it in a potato chip bag to leave the state.

schestowitz

you cannot turn some off

schestowitz

they will turn themselves off when battery is low

MinceR

you can put those in a metal box and let them talk to themselves

schestowitz

but they still have enoufgh juice to work remotely

schestowitz

to track you from towers

schestowitz

better not to 'own' (rent) one

schestowitz

they will look like they are "off", but you cannot tell for sure

schestowitz

when rianne still had a mobile it would drain OUT FASTER (!) is turned off completely

schestowitz

*if

schestowitz

which was... well, weird

schestowitz

you remove battery too

schestowitz

but there are still capacitors in there

schestowitz

not sure how much it can feed off them

schestowitz

doubtful

schestowitz

some phones have multiples batteries

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: It's not real hard to block the GPS signal.

schestowitz

and only one can be removed

DaemonFC[m]

Like I said, a bag of potato chips ought to do it.

schestowitz

the other is soldered in like a diode

schestowitz

like CPU clocks

schestowitz

the only phone we now have is wired

schestowitz

to the wall

schestowitz

I used it today twice to make a complaint and lodge it with the ISP

schestowitz

they wanted to close it later but I opposed

schestowitz

as the problem was not resolved

schestowitz

so they must phone again tomorrow at midday

schestowitz

vZS1 gave me relevant cite (citation) from ofcom, the regulator

schestowitz

so I can still talk to people

schestowitz

without "mobile"

schestowitz

they act all surprise I don't have one

schestowitz

I told them "for privacy"

schestowitz

they act all shocked if you only supply them with a landline, which THEY THEMSELVES supply, as contact number

schestowitz

and they know you work from home, like them...

schestowitz

weird world?

schestowitz

BT: Why do you only use the landline you pay us 20 pounds for every month?!?!?!

schestowitz

(you must pay for it regardless, otherwise you cannot have broadband... major scam)

schestowitz

hidden fee

DaemonFC[m]

Why do they sell them if they don't have anyone using them?

schestowitz

220 pounds a year, "line rental" they call it

DaemonFC[m]

Oh, that's illegal here.

schestowitz

you must pay that for broadband

schestowitz

which is an additional cost

schestowitz

so the actual cost of broadband is misleading

DaemonFC[m]

They used to require dial tone to get DSL, but then the law changed, so they said "We'll sell you a dry loop DSL line for most of the cost and if you want a landline phone it's $6 a month.".

schestowitz

you must "rent" the line... which few people use for anything other than broadband anyway

scientes

XRevan86, it was both culture and race---it was arab over the non-arab, the non-arab over the arab, the white over the black, the black over the white---except in piety.

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: I did point out the irony to them

XRevan86

scientes: It makes sense for two reasons

schestowitz

of them treating as "bad' my using the number THEY provide me with

schestowitz

because I MUST pay them for it

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: Nobody wants a landline so they were very aggressive about not giving you much of a discount and scaring you that you may not be able to call 911 if your cell phone lost power.

XRevan86

1. the source material gives preference to Jews, so for goys to try to flip the table as if it's they that are special is not very viable

Jan 05 18:16

XRevan86

2. Islam was expansionist from the start, it was not there just for one nation / one culture to adopt.

Jan 05 18:17

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: I need your help

schestowitz

can you read this short text?

schestowitz

tell me if that makes sense to you

http://techrights.org/2021/01/05/qt-licensing-changes/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Qt is Shooting Itself in the Foot With Licensing Changes | Techrights

schestowitz

I recorded it half a day ago

schestowitz

my connection was so bad it's not online until now

schestowitz

I worry about typos

XRevan86

scientes: The mythos serves the goals. It just so happens that this particular kind of bigotry would not help Islam, so it's not incorporated into it.

schestowitz

I had a terrible day due to ISP crap

schestowitz

and then I had to rewrite and restart things

Jan 05 18:19

schestowitz

desperate to get the connection going

Jan 05 18:19

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: read quickly, it's short

Jan 05 18:19

schestowitz

vZS1: connection had gotten a lot better; not impossible that my escalations and hours of bickering paid off

Jan 05 18:20

schestowitz

I made many good points about them, so they let me turn that into a formal complaint, which is rare unless you're a business customer

Jan 05 18:20

XRevan86

scientes: Jews wanted to feel special, and so the mythos of Judaism says they are. Very much like Russian propaganda has Russian exceptionalism at its core.

Jan 05 18:20

XRevan86

If that branch of Russian propaganda was facing outwards trying to get recruits outside, it wouldn't do that.

Jan 05 18:21

scientes

the cossacks

Jan 05 18:21

scientes

I did not visit the museum of Russian expansion in California, but I was in the general area

Jan 05 18:22

XRevan86

But these days propaganda can be diversified (double think all the way), so they pull all the strings at the same time.

Jan 05 18:22

scientes

Plato's fucking cave

Jan 05 18:22

MinceR

the cave where Plato goes to fuck

XRevan86

One True Book of any religion cannot send different messages to different people.

DaemonFC[m]

Phoronix article and its comment

DaemonFC[m]

comments

scientes

MinceR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nx0sQLl7IY

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The word FUCK - YouTube

MinceR

nice

Jan 05 18:25

DaemonFC[m]

Absolutely nobody is going to accept Qt like this, where version 6 doesn't even work and the LTS stable releases are proprietary. You can't base Free Software on any version in that case, unless someone forks the LTS series.

Jan 05 18:25

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: thanks

schestowitz

will quote

XRevan86

scientes: So, basically, it's not a display of enlightenment, it's another example of religion serving political interests.

scientes

XRevan86, it certainly was after he conquered Mecca

https://ircz.de/p/20071721

MinceR

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DaemonFC[m]

Most of the business plans around Qt failed to materialize and it's changed hands many times.

scientes

and the Koran has a chapter to the Quraysh, his clam

schestowitz

Developers like yours truly (I've used Qt and GTK, among other toolkits) don't want to rewrite everything from scratch and reinvent the wheel (e.g. scroll wheel support). So we rely on frameworks. Qt has just become a helluva lot less attractive. No amount of technical merit will compensate for legal uncertainty.

Jan 05 18:28

schestowitz

"Most of the business plans around Qt failed to materialize," Ryan explains, "and it's changed hands many times." Until there will be nothing left to change hands?

schestowitz

anything else, DaemonFC[m]?

schestowitz

will finalise in a minute

schestowitz

then intel leaks

DaemonFC[m]

There's some commercial products using Qt, but it's going to be hard to convince them to adopt newer versions or base anything else on it at this point. The logical thing to do is for those users to contribute to the fork so that they can be sure it continues to serve their needs.

https://blog.steve.fi/brexit_has_come.html

schestowitz

Jan 05 18:30

XRevan86

scientes: oh yea, I heard that there was a chapter targeting some specific group. I forgot about that.

Jan 05 18:30

schestowitz

finalised

Jan 05 18:30

schestowitz

refresh if you want

Jan 05 18:31

schestowitz

Jan 05 18:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.fi | Brexit has come

Jan 05 18:34

DaemonFC[m]

I see they're writing Direct3D support into Qt6 and removing ANGLE.

Jan 05 18:35

MinceR

finally Qt is becoming Backdoors-only?

Jan 05 18:35

DaemonFC[m]

That would require anyone porting Free Software to Windows who uses Qt to keep that in mind and write new Windows-only code.

Jan 05 18:35

MinceR

Qt used to be focused on portability

schestowitz

they also make MSVS plugins

schestowitz

to help proprietary VS

schestowitz

Microsoft spyware

DaemonFC[m]

Well, the translation layer that supports Direct3D on the backend, transparently, made more sense.

schestowitz

Microsoft <heart> qt

XRevan86

DaemonFC[m]: Can't people just use OpenGL?

DaemonFC[m]

Developers didn't have to worry about writing new code and never had to worry that if they invoked Vulkan they could literally end up with any implementation.

schestowitz

next up

schestowitz

shut down mailing lists

schestowitz

use linkedin instead

schestowitz

and shithub for code

schestowitz

with many "likes"

XRevan86

I don't see why Direct3D code is actually necessary.

schestowitz

I will never develop with qt again

schestowitz

they lost my trust when their chief posted inflammatory anti-FOSS crap

schestowitz

while making some BS PR to "Open Source"

schestowitz

thankfully, many alternatives to qt do exist

schestowitz

maybe even a fork soon

schestowitz

like qt-free

schestowitz

if they can use the TM of "qt"

Jan 05 18:39

DaemonFC[m]

The installable client driver model in Windows means that graphics card drivers bundle their own implementations of OpenGL and Vulkan.

Jan 05 18:39

DaemonFC[m]

Although Vulkan is more consistent, because they tend to use the open source stuff as a base for their ICDs, but the ICD still comes from the vendor.

Jan 05 18:39

DaemonFC[m]

GTK+ is still around.

Jan 05 18:40

MinceR

gtk is even worse

Jan 05 18:40

schestowitz

it is

MinceR

not only did they integrate half a window manager (badly) to please the waylandows people, they also kicked out widgets used by gimp

schestowitz

i used glade for it

schestowitz

and gdk also

MinceR

from the gimp toolkit.

MinceR

and they started copying crapOS even more closely

schestowitz

gtk is like a hacker toolset

DaemonFC[m]

I don't think there's any company even making LTS releases of that to begin with.

schestowitz

gtk 1.2 iirc

schestowitz

or 1.1

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: of gtk?

schestowitz

tk/tcl is ugly

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah.

MinceR

tk can be beautiful

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcl

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tcl - Wikipedia

DaemonFC[m]

I could be wrong, but it wouldn't really serve Red Hat's interest to have an upstream LTS version of GTK.

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]

It would be another thing where it would be possible to see what they did to it for "enterprise linux".

schestowitz

Stable release

schestowitz

8.6.11 / January 4, 2021; 1 day ago

schestowitz

schestowitz

at least it's still going and free

schestowitz

"LicenseBSD-style"

schestowitz

"Red Linux"

schestowitz

but Big Blue

schestowitz

Purpose Skies

schestowitz

*by Big Blue

schestowitz

Purple Skies

psydroid

I went to Qt Meet in Amsterdam in late 2018 where they were showing new capabilities in the library, but also had a scare session about licensing

schestowitz

Buy a MAINFRAME today, get a LICENCE for 2 RED LINUX ABSOLUTELY FREE! -Krishna

Jan 05 18:46

schestowitz

psydroid: I don't trust any "dual" licensed

Jan 05 18:46

schestowitz

it means proprietary

Jan 05 18:46

psydroid

And when I asked questions about KDE and scaling, they were a bit dismissive, as if it's some kind of embarrassment

schestowitz

with free teaster

schestowitz

or "openwash"

schestowitz

Qt was used for LyX

schestowitz

I grew up on that program

schestowitz

Matthias (was that his name) then made KDE

schestowitz

RMS convinced Qt (trolltech) to liberate it

schestowitz

obviously they didn't sign a "for life" promise

schestowitz

it was nice while it lasted though

schestowitz

now fork itr

schestowitz

*it

psydroid

I think Qt has had its natural home on free software platforms ever since Microsoft came up with .NET and Apple got their various GUI toolkits

Jan 05 18:49

schestowitz

old versions are still lgpl iirc

Jan 05 18:50

psydroid

alienating free software developers now will almost certainly lead to complete irrelevance

Jan 05 18:50

schestowitz

maybe a lot of companies that used qt can pool money into forking it

Jan 05 18:50

schestowitz

and co-develop it with some foundation of some kind

Jan 05 18:51

schestowitz

and without shithub accounts

Jan 05 18:51

schestowitz

as that would give Microsoft control over qt and things build with it, too

Jan 05 18:51

schestowitz

psydroid: I think their plan is to shake down proprietary software makers who use qt in the chain

schestowitz

but again, how long can that last?

schestowitz

esp. if they realise a new fork exists

schestowitz

and they don't need to pay qt for patches

schestowitz

instead donate the maintainers of fork/s

DaemonFC[m]

Khronos was puffing up Windows Vista.

Jan 05 18:53

DaemonFC[m]

They said its improved graphics model benefited OpenGL.

Jan 05 18:53

schestowitz

Khronos uss shithub

schestowitz

opengl? OK

schestowitz

Khronos's vulkan? no, thanks

schestowitz

don't need fancy effects

schestowitz

I used to develop with opengl

DaemonFC[m]

Then in the same article, showed that Windows Vista was running OpenGL apps 10% slower than XP.

schestowitz

cogl

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: but so what?

schestowitz

it's vista

schestowitz

it's better

schestowitz

for microsoft

schestowitz

and hollywood

schestowitz

more DRM

schestowitz

get vista today

schestowitz

not a free upgrade

schestowitz

comes in SEVEN editiobs

schestowitz

unlike Vista 7

schestowitz

or was it six edition?

schestowitz

I forgot

schestowitz

apple made fun of that

DaemonFC[m]

Windows Vista Starter Edition, Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Ultimate Edition, and Windows Vista Enterprise Edition I think.

Jan 05 18:58

DaemonFC[m]

Ultimate Edition had all the features of Enterprise Edition. The only difference was Enterprise could use volume licensing keys.

Jan 05 18:59

DaemonFC[m]

I think Starter Edition didn't let you change the wallpaper and enforced a limit of three open applications with a GUI.

Jan 05 18:59

schestowitz

It's only about midday in most of the US and 1,450 COVID-19 deaths tallied already

Jan 05 19:01

schestowitz

[18:59] <DaemonFC[m]> I think Starter Edition didn't let you change the wallpaper and enforced a limit of three open applications with a GUI.

schestowitz

even the crippled gnome3 doesn't suck this much LOL

MinceR

give them time

MinceR

they're still developing gnome

MinceR

i'm sure they'll get there eventually

MinceR

"more than 3 applications at a time is too confusing for users"

MinceR

"more than 3 applications at a time violates our branding"

MinceR

"look how great iOS is with 1 application at a time, we've got to copy that, it's so modern"

Jan 05 19:04

schestowitz

RED Linux will run as many as you wish

Jan 05 19:07

schestowitz

CentOS Stream will have 6 editions

Jan 05 19:07

DaemonFC[m]

I was asking my mom if she would sign a sponsorship affidavit for Mandy.

Jan 05 19:13

DaemonFC[m]

She thinks he's going to go on welfare and sue her or something crazy like that.

Jan 05 19:13

DaemonFC[m]

In other words, I think she's just getting at she's racist, she hates our marriage, she hopes it fails, and she's just not going to say it like that.

Jan 05 19:14

DaemonFC[m]

Not gonna come out and say it.

Jan 05 19:14

schestowitz

yup

schestowitz

don't be in denial about it

schestowitz

that's what she is and doess

schestowitz

but won't say

schestowitz

wouldn't shock me is homophobia is in the mix too

schestowitz

against her son and his partner

schestowitz

not merely racism

DaemonFC[m]

It's that fundamentalist christian bullshit too. Yeah, she keeps wanting me to go to church.

schestowitz

she votes Trump, remember...

schestowitz

"CHINA VIRUS"... "chinese virus"

DaemonFC[m]

She thinks if she helps push the marriage over then that's what'll do it, which is why she started telling Maricel all about my dirty laundry.

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: Jesus saves!

DaemonFC[m]

I'm so fucking tired of hearing that shit, you have no idea.

schestowitz

how did she get her contact number?

schestowitz

"here, have some flesh and jesus and drink his blood"

schestowitz

"bought you a necklace of jesus on a torture device"

DaemonFC[m]

Mandy thought if she talked to his sister it would help, and then she went and told her I was fucking crazy and I pissed off a friend of hers, which she absolutely will not drop, ever.

schestowitz

with his hands and feet nailed to carved up wood

DaemonFC[m]

I will never stop hearing about that.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/05/enter-the-alien-ufos-as-the-new-american-religion/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enter the Alien: UFOs as the New American Religion - CounterPunch.org

schestowitz

brain rot USA

schestowitz

this is from yesterday/today

schestowitz

people look for alternate realities

schestowitz

because real life sucks

schestowitz

that explains many split pesonalities

schestowitz

people construct alternative realms

schestowitz

to escape the f-ed up one

schestowitz

in some alternate universe the oligarchs are reptiles or a cabal of pedos or something

schestowitz

and "that explains everything"(TM)

schestowitz

Qanon is one example

schestowitz

remember: assange died 5 years ago

schestowitz

according to some but

schestowitz

nut

schestowitz

all the interview and the trials? That's an imposer

schestowitz

or CGI

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/01/betting-against-qanon-predictit/617396/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | The Dark Reality of Betting Against QAnon - The Atlantic

schestowitz

of course the sedition in Goergia never happened either... it's all "Fake"

Jan 05 19:21

schestowitz

*Goergia

Jan 05 19:21

schestowitz

Georgia

Jan 05 19:21

schestowitz

I wonder if LT STILL reads TR

https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/01/05/0318254/linus-torvalds-rails-at-intel-for-killing-the-ecc-industry

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Linus Torvalds Rails At Intel For 'Killing' the ECC Industry - Slashdot

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: next intel article will be ready soon

schestowitz

just waiting for upload to finish

schestowitz

it'll embarrass SJVN

schestowitz

Intel workers don't think too highly of him

psydroid

DRM is an "advantage" to Intel too, because it's not readily available on standard non-x86 GNU/Linux distributions (in contrast with Chrome OS) that are otherwise identical to and equally functional to the x86 ones ensuring that people will keep buying Intel chips for their various Hollywood addictions

Jan 05 19:26

schestowitz

never thought of it like that

Jan 05 19:30

schestowitz

well, both Intel and 'hollywood' deserve insolvency

Jan 05 19:30

schestowitz

long funded by Empire

Jan 05 19:30

schestowitz

to brainwash and put back doors everywhere

schestowitz

but the Empire is running out of financial resourced

schestowitz

*ces

schestowitz

it can only still feed the super-rich

schestowitz

who already took all the capital (work, labour) OUT of the country to tax-evading offshore accounts

schestowitz

both the oligarchs and their corporations

schestowitz

they know what's coming to 'their' country

schestowitz

people working 2-3 jobs

schestowitz

to feed that capital hoard

schestowitz

same in China BTW

schestowitz

9 to 9, 6 days a week

schestowitz

nobody getting rich, demand slump

schestowitz

I get 10-20 spam per day from chinese manufacturers

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: When I talked to the manager at the hotel about the first apartment complex, she asked me what happened.

psydroid

I've read those horror stories of people holding multiple microjobs in Germany

DaemonFC[m]

I said, "Oh, they turned out to be a couple of Karens. Called the police and everything because I asked why they were introducing so many problems into our application process.".

schestowitz

psydroid: now we have "gig economy"

psydroid

so that's progress, I suppose

schestowitz

it "sets you free"

schestowitz

you work when you want

schestowitz

no holiday pay

schestowitz

no guarantee of ANY pay

DaemonFC[m]

It's not just black people that have to worry about the Karens, it's anyone that the Karen thinks is beneath it.

DaemonFC[m]

And Karens aren't always white. Maricel is Asian.

Jan 05 19:34

schestowitz

who are they?

Jan 05 19:34

schestowitz

"Asian" is too vague

schestowitz

half of the world is "Asian"

DaemonFC[m]

Oh god, bunch of assholes really. In debt up to their eyeballs. If they are married, they have their husband's dick in a jar somewhere.

DaemonFC[m]

But they carry themselves around as if they were someone important, when they're not, because they're hoping you believe it.

schestowitz

they think it'll become reality

schestowitz

if you act like it

DaemonFC[m]

Believing oneself to be important above all others is a mental illness.

schestowitz

it's a sick mindset

schestowitz

across many spectra

schestowitz

act like X

schestowitz

and X you will become

schestowitz

rent a Ferarri

schestowitz

and the money will come

schestowitz

Ferrari

schestowitz

Act like you're sexy

schestowitz

and sexy you will be

schestowitz

pretend to be smart

schestowitz

and then people will assume that

schestowitz

lots of oligarchs play the media to play along with it

schestowitz

"self-made Xionnre"

schestowitz

*naire

schestowitz

but at the end they're the ones who go under

schestowitz

like 6-bankruptcies Trump

schestowitz

There are European equivalents

http://techrights.org/2019/11/27/breton-lagarde-connections/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: “Mister Cash” and “Madame Bailout” | Techrights

schestowitz

" Bernard Tapie received an award of €404m approved by Lagarde "

schestowitz

Another fake zillionaire

schestowitz

bailed out by criminals in govt.

schestowitz

found guilty

schestowitz

not arrested

schestowitz

then IMF n

schestowitz

now ECB

schestowitz

the lenders

schestowitz

bailout out 'rich' crooks

Jan 05 19:39

schestowitz

thieves

Jan 05 19:39

schestowitz

parasites on the state purse

Jan 05 19:39

schestowitz

[15:09] <DaemonFC[m]> I laughed when RMS said that he was having a hard time criticizing a bank robber because of decades of sitting there watching banks rob the public with no consequences.

schestowitz

This is theft

schestowitz

but done by the rich

schestowitz

and banksters

schestowitz

do you won't call it looting

schestowitz

black people shoplifting would be called that

schestowitz

for a $20 adidas

schestowitz

not a $20 billion "bailout"

psydroid

that same Bernard Tapie of Olympique Marseille infamy, I didn't know he was still around

schestowitz

Lagarde is too

schestowitz

ECB

schestowitz

amazing, isn't it?

schestowitz

Convicted criminals running out banks

psydroid

yes

schestowitz

and the EU Commission!!

schestowitz

Breton

schestowitz

defending other criminals

http://techrights.org/2021/01/04/microsoft-ai-swpats-event/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Hosts a European Software Patents Propaganda Event (in ‘Hey Hi’ Clothing) Featuring Thierry Breton and Litigation Firms | Techrights

schestowitz

instrumental in covering up

schestowitz

and so you wonder why the public loses confidence

schestowitz

sorry, i mean to paste this one http://techrights.org/2020/12/01/the-breton-coverup/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Commission’s Thierry Breton Covers Up EPO Corruption For His Friend Benoît Battistelli | Techrights

schestowitz

more relevant, but a tad older

schestowitz

you don't need to go to qanon with theories about pedos in charge

schestowitz

simpler explanations would speak of crooks in charge

schestowitz

and building a framework of hand-washing puppets

Jan 05 19:43

schestowitz

to ensure nobody holds them accountable and the media hails them as maligned heroes

Jan 05 19:43

schestowitz

never mind arrest records, e.g. Gates arrested several times, then smugly smiling for the mug shots

Jan 05 19:43

schestowitz

he know daddy was coming to bail him out again

schestowitz

or pay bail

schestowitz

laws by the rich for the rich

schestowitz

"get out of jail card"

schestowitz

if you are "in the club"

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: techrights.org/2020/03/26/medina-lost-in-the-mail/

schestowitz

I still need your help

schestowitz

to retrieve those court documents

schestowitz

as a US citizen

DaemonFC[m]

I'm finding out how little that's worth each day.

https://www.gadgetsnow.com/tech-news/intel-has-got-a-new-hater-after-amd-impresses/articleshow/80108658.cms

DaemonFC[m]

Here, we let a plague loose. Hide in your house and pray that we don't decide to send a SWAT team to deport your honest, hardworking spouse who hasn't ever taken a welfare program and who pays taxes.

Jan 05 19:46

DaemonFC[m]

Mom and dad voting for the guy who did it.

Jan 05 19:47

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gadgetsnow.com | Linux creator isn't happy with Intel, here's why - Latest News | Gadgets Now

schestowitz

many headlines like this today

schestowitz

I caught 5 already

schestowitz

they miss the real news

DaemonFC[m]

They act like they actually deserve not to be despised for this.

schestowitz

linux 5.11 rc-2

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: it's a good thing Mandy isn't Muslin

Jan 05 19:49

schestowitz

If he was Muslim, your mom would have THREE reasons to hate him

DaemonFC[m]

Trump's "Let them eat heard immunity!" reaction has cost our economy more in a year than if we took in immigrants on asylum visas for the next 10,000 years.

schestowitz

tell your mom Mandy is converting to Islam

schestowitz

just for spite

schestowitz

and tell her Mandy becomes a she

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: check death toll today

schestowitz

uk is around 800

schestowitz

really awful, it's catchup though (mostly, weekend)

schestowitz

it's a good thing Italy and Belgium do worse

schestowitz

so we don't stand out as "sick man of Europe"

DaemonFC[m]

I mean, what does it really say about Christian Fundamentalism, really, when you say "What's so good about a religion that teaches you to hate your own children?" and they react with, "Well, if we were Muslims we'd drive over you with the car for an honor killing!".

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: can you do the Intel article with me?

schestowitz

I am typing it up now

schestowitz

I need to mostly work to obscure my sources, it's the most time-consuming part

DaemonFC[m]

Yeah.

Jan 05 19:53

DaemonFC[m]

I'm not hearing them stand up and defend themselves. I'm hearing, "Yeah, we're bad, but look at those other guys!".

Jan 05 19:54

DaemonFC[m]

Eh, Mandy stopped going to church when he didn't need to in order to survive anymore. And by survive I mean, his sister was parading him around a church that would have thrown them all out had they known he's gay.

Jan 05 19:55

DaemonFC[m]

So he knew better than to step out of line.

schestowitz

I will put in IRC what's unsafe for the article

schestowitz

because it's less visible here

schestowitz

not invisible

schestowitz

but makes fishing expeditions a lot harder

DaemonFC[m]

He grew to fear her so much that he continued undermining our situation for fear of what she would do to him. And in so doing, blurted out everything I told him not to say to her.

DaemonFC[m]

If this goes under, I probably never will be with anyone else. I can't stand how it always goes wrong somehow.

Jan 05 19:57

DaemonFC[m]

This time it'll be the government.

Jan 05 19:57

schestowitz

InteLeaks - Part V: Intel Misinformation Being Spread by ZDNet

Jan 05 19:58

schestowitz

Microsoft-connected propaganda site ZDNet (masquerading as "tech" "news") is disseminating misleading information or misinformation about Intel, tell us people who understand these matters better than most

schestowitz

this is a draft

schestowitz

see if you spot mistakes

schestowitz

schestowitz

add your views

DaemonFC[m]

USCIS has become my Aunt Lydia, Roy.

schestowitz

I will embed them as I type it up

DaemonFC[m]

The director of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest said that the Soviet Union had been his Nurse Ratched when someone asked why he directed the movie the way he had.

Jan 05 20:00

MinceR

(cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/19/8f25786c9d20b709.mp4

Jan 05 20:00

schestowitz

corporate press or mainstream media is not trustworthy because of its ownership. It's not that it's incapable of finding out the truth; it's just that telling the truth, accurately, is oftentimes against its business model (for example, unfavourable to a corporate sponsor).

Jan 05 20:01

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: I can easily embed responses from you

Jan 05 20:02

schestowitz

as I only organise my notes now, turning them into article body

Jan 05 20:02

DaemonFC[m]

Well, who said "Freedom of the Press goes to the people who can afford one."?

Jan 05 20:03

DaemonFC[m]

Something like that.

Jan 05 20:03

schestowitz

Some of the worst publishers have long been named and shamed here. We've been documented concrete examples for a very long time. We try to show actual evidence that they intentionally mislead the public and highlight who benefits...

Jan 05 20:03

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: Gates probably likes to corrupt NPR as a pet project because with CNN it's very obvious.

Jan 05 20:04

DaemonFC[m]

AMERICA IN CRISIS....Sign up for a credit card today at great intro rates!

Jan 05 20:04

schestowitz

When people receive a salary for their writings there are almost always some strings attached (to those who provide this monetary compensation, not because they charitably support journalism).

Jan 05 20:05

DaemonFC[m]

IN ANOTHER YEAR YOU WILL ALL BE DEAD OF CORONAVIRUS.....but in the meantime here's 21 great places to fly that still accept US passports!

Jan 05 20:06

schestowitz

As Ryan as just put it, who said "Freedom of the Press goes to the people who can afford one"?

DaemonFC[m]

DONALD TRUMP TRIES TO STEAL THE ELECTION.........but Starbucks holiday cups are back and conservatives are forcing them to write Merry Christmas.

schestowitz

schestowitz

In this series' [cref 138129 introduction] we explained what we're about to show. In [cref 138157 Part I], [cref 138218 Part II], [cref 138278 Part III], and [cref 138291 Part IV] we've already shown some 'smoking guns' from Intel; the best (or worse) is yet to come.

schestowitz

Putting aside [cref 133037 obvious defamation], someone has pointed out to us that "ZDNet [is] incorrect about Intel adoption of CoC..."

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: yes, PBS also

schestowitz

he bribes them too

DaemonFC[m]

The people who can afford the "press", are the advertisers.

schestowitz

we covered that

schestowitz

he repeatedly bribes NPR

schestowitz

not a "one off"

schestowitz

so they need to 'behave'

schestowitz

or he will stop 'sponsoring' them

DaemonFC[m]

So they tend to report based on who they think the advertisers can play to.

DaemonFC[m]

It's certainly no coincidence that Fox News wants people to think Biden will ruin the economy (Trump already ruined it.) so they'll hoard gold (from their advertisers, at high prices).

Jan 05 20:09

DaemonFC[m]

You'll never make money off the gold at those "commission rates", but you sell panic, and people lose the ability to think about what a rational investment is.

Jan 05 20:10

schestowitz

Thankfully, as we hoped when we started this series, we are getting additional information from betrayed and disgruntled people, who are happy to see this information about Intel (belatedly aired thanks to whistleblowers).

Jan 05 20:10

schestowitz

Of course we welcome any additional input. Techrights is very robust or resistant to censorship in all its subtle forms.

Jan 05 20:10

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: Microsoft is desperately trying to wake up and pitch Windows again all of a sudden.

Jan 05 20:11

DaemonFC[m]

After a huge multi-year sales slump they think they can sell into the disaster. PCs for people who suddenly need to do everything over the web.

Jan 05 20:11

schestowitz

As one person (insider) told us: "I didn't like the push for Microsoft stuff..."

schestowitz

We'll get to more examples of this soon (later in this series). Intel is basically morally defunct and geeks are fed up with it. Their salaries won't change their minds on it...

DaemonFC[m]

It would be true to an extent except that the disaster is causing people to have little income and fewer priorities.

schestowitz

The market share of Windows is rapidly declining

DaemonFC[m]

Even the immigration lawyers that were charging several thousands of dollars are now offering to pick up Mandy's case for $1,000 or so.

http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/windows-sliding/

schestowitz

Jan 05 20:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | According to Statcounter, Microsoft Windows Reaches Lowest Market Share Since 1990s (Now Just 31.8%) | Techrights

Jan 05 20:13

DaemonFC[m]

What does that turn into when you toss out iOS and Android?

Jan 05 20:13

DaemonFC[m]

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide#monthly-200901-202012

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats

schestowitz

Throughout the day today (in IRC) many of us decided that YES! Intel would definitely like the Wintel monopoly/duopoly back 'in order'...

DaemonFC[m]

Windows still on the decline I guess.

DaemonFC[m]

Although on the desktop, a lot of that is because of macOS apparently.

Jan 05 20:16

schestowitz

schestowitz

It says: "Intel's open source projects will all comply to the widely-adopted Contributor Covenant."

DaemonFC[m]

It's strange that anyone would bother with that.

schestowitz

I asked legal if this was the case in a meeting. The answer was maybe for the Open Source Technology Center but not entirely for Intel.

schestowitz

Project choice. This came from the lawyer dealing with open source project licenses etc.

schestowitz

The Open Source Technology Center is separate from other groups - like IOT and AI.

schestowitz

The report about the adoption of the Contributor Covenant for all Open Source projects is highly exaggerated.

schestowitz

In fact, I stopped a few projects personally from using the Contributor Covenant. The leads decided there was no need for a code of conduct - at all.

schestowitz

schestowitz

I will need to rewrite this

DaemonFC[m]

Code of Conduct is just a way to suppress people and debates that are embarrassing or inconvenient.

Jan 05 20:18

DaemonFC[m]

They write them in such wording that they could mean anything. It's like a disorderly conduct statute.

Jan 05 20:18

DaemonFC[m]

The purpose is to "maintain order".

Jan 05 20:19

DaemonFC[m]

Only with the CoCs, it's usually by disappearing someone permanently.

Jan 05 20:20

schestowitz

"Not sure if I can get any more Intel on Intel... but still have a few connections/friends, and can always ask."

schestowitz

I cannot post this

schestowitz

it can compromise a source

schestowitz

I'll leave it in IRC

schestowitz

any more commenrs?

schestowitz

I will publish the draft

DaemonFC[m]

It looks like the person who banned me in #duckduckgo in 2009 is gone.

schestowitz

you can add further commens

schestowitz

I like your interpretation of these things

schestowitz

many people's input is in this article

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: OK, quick! http://techrights.org/2021/01/05/imaged-sjvn-and-zdnet-misinformation/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part V: Intel Misinformation Being Spread by ZDNet | Techrights

schestowitz

I'm sure typos are in there

schestowitz

and we can enhance concision etc.

DaemonFC[m]

We’ve been documented concrete examples

DaemonFC[m]

documenting

DaemonFC[m]

to those who provide this monetary compensation, not

DaemonFC[m]

and not

DaemonFC[m]

As Ryan as just put it

DaemonFC[m]

has

DaemonFC[m]

who said “Freedom of the Press goes to the people who can afford one”?

Jan 05 20:28

DaemonFC[m]

Actually, that looks okay..

Jan 05 20:30

schestowitz

the rest reads ok?

Jan 05 20:30

DaemonFC[m]

the “press”,"

Jan 05 20:31

DaemonFC[m]

Extra quotation mark at the end?

Jan 05 20:31

DaemonFC[m]

, and Part IV we’ve

Jan 05 20:32

DaemonFC[m]

, and Part IV. We’ve

Jan 05 20:32

schestowitz

should I remove the quotes from "press"?

Jan 05 20:36

schestowitz

part 4 is part of a sentence, cannot add full stop there

DaemonFC[m]

No, just the trailing quotation mark after the comma.

DaemonFC[m]

I think the rest looks okay.

schestowitz

"The people who can afford the press," he adds, "are the advertisers. So they tend to report based on who they think the advertisers can play to."

schestowitz

I will promote with link on social control 'networks'

DaemonFC[m]

If Windows on the PC fails then Intel has nothing left.

schestowitz

wait till we get to github stuff

DaemonFC[m]

They tried to promote their CPUs on Android and failed. Nobody used them.

schestowitz

yeah

DaemonFC[m]

There was no legacy software to be concerned with.

schestowitz

atom etc.

schestowitz

I mentioned this in the video of the intro t

schestowitz

they sabotaged olpc alspo

schestowitz

to push their crappy chips

DaemonFC[m]

Apple breaks things all the time because the Mac is really an expensive Chromebook to most people.

DaemonFC[m]

Nobody cares what CPU is running underneath Chrome OS.

schestowitz

the video was done w/o preparation

DaemonFC[m]

And if the PC OEMs that use ARM chipsets in their Chromebooks thought anyone did care, they wouldn't have already transitioned.

schestowitz

you might find it of interest nonetheless

schestowitz

they're quick and cheap to make

schestowitz

the upload is what takes time

DaemonFC[m]

And now Microsoft is making noise about Windows on ARM again.

schestowitz

yeah, I saw that

schestowitz

someone also sent me a link

DaemonFC[m]

I don't think it's feasible. I just think they want Intel under Maximum Pressure to give them good deals on CPUs for Surface laptops.

DaemonFC[m]

To increase hardware margins.

schestowitz

to paul TROTTROT

schestowitz

the microsoft shills are stessed

schestowitz

windows 'supersite' will get no more 'hits'

DaemonFC[m]

Microsoft develops the OS anyway, so they don't charge for that. They sell the laptops at a high price because they want to compare them to Macbooks.

schestowitz

yeah

schestowitz

very expensive

DaemonFC[m]

If they can get concessions from Intel, they'll have a trifecta on margin.

schestowitz

for no good reason

schestowitz

intel benefits from it also

schestowitz

maybe the OEMs Microsoft partners with

schestowitz

$1000 for a lousy laptop

http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet

DaemonFC[m]

The third party OEMs are not as important to Microsoft as they used to be.

Jan 05 20:42

DaemonFC[m]

I think they might be imagining a future where they can cut out the middle man and it'll be Microsoft laptops, Macbooks, and Chromebooks.

Jan 05 20:42

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights

psydroid

OEMs are tied to Wintel too, as there is no guarantee the current top vendors of Wintel computers would be the top vendors of Linaro (and other) computers as well

DaemonFC[m]

The only good thing about having the OEMs around is they help with economy of scale for the hardware and it costs Microsoft nothing to copy Windows.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/politics/judge-trump-decertify-votes/index.html

DaemonFC[m]

Jan 05 20:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Judge rejects another Trump attempt to decertify Georgia votes - CNNPolitics

Jan 05 20:47

psydroid

But their hands may be forced if Microsoft decides to cut the OEMs out

Jan 05 20:51

schestowitz

https://www.maketecheasier.com/t-mobile-admits-customer-info-data-breach-again/

Jan 05 20:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | T-Mobile Admits to Customer Info Data Breach Again - Make Tech Easier

Jan 05 20:52

psydroid

Which makes me wonder why Intel and Microsoft didn't or wouldn't at some point merge to become some kind of counterweight to Apple

DaemonFC[m]

Great. T-Mobile bought Sprint. So they have my account.

MinceR

schestowitz

don't worry, it's in the clown

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Jan 05 21:12

DaemonFC[m]

We really need for this election in Georgia to be a win for both Democrats. It's the only way any kind of economic recovery bill might pass, and they can vote to use the Congressional Review Act against a bunch of Trump's regulations.

Jan 05 21:19

DaemonFC[m]

I think the first item will be to cancel all of his last minute regulations using the CRA if they end up in control of the Senate.

Jan 05 21:20

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: Now my mom is claiming that members of Congress aren't really taking the Coronavirus vaccine.

Jan 05 21:21

schestowitz

I don't know of a vaccine

schestowitz

I know of clinical trials

schestowitz

maybe they will lead to a successful vaccination

schestowitz

for now I watch the experiment

schestowitz

as an observer only

schestowitz

will stay home

schestowitz

humanity's biggest ever clinical trials

Jan 05 21:23

schestowitz

hundreds of millions of participants or sibjects

Jan 05 21:23

schestowitz

hope it goes well

Jan 05 21:24

schestowitz

I think my mom will get the viagra company's one...

Jan 05 21:24

MinceR

Jan 05 21:24

schestowitz

if the experiment goes aery

schestowitz

*awry

schestowitz

than maybe viagra company will implement better (but slowed down) depopulation than COVID-19 could ever achieve on its own

schestowitz

not talking about sterilisation

schestowitz

but side effects

MinceR

EXTERMINATE!

schestowitz

even if heart issues are developed in just 1% of takers after 5 years

schestowitz

3 billion people

schestowitz

1% of them is 30 million

schestowitz

schestowitz

do the maths

schestowitz

I will be watching

schestowitz

from here

schestowitz

good luck

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/16/asia/china-vaccine-scandal-doses-intl/index.html

schestowitz

(I have not even seen hard data/evidence yet that it is effective)

Jan 05 21:30

schestowitz

and is in fact reducing infection/death rates

Jan 05 21:30

schestowitz

vZS1 checked and reached the same conclusions, for now..

Jan 05 21:30

schestowitz

so no known benefits (yet)

Jan 05 21:31

schestowitz

and potential risks (not know yet, either)

Jan 05 21:31

schestowitz

except we know viagra company vaccine or clinical trials caused issues for people with allergy... this one we know because even mainstream media reported on it

Jan 05 21:31

*schestowitz does not need to be "antivaxxer" to distrust experiments (expedited, too) as opposed to well-established vaccines (polio, measles etc.)

Jan 05 21:33

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Number of faulty children's vaccines in China surges to over 900,000 - CNN

schestowitz

ttps://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/asia/faulty-vaccine-china-intl/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/asia/faulty-vaccine-china-intl/index.html

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Outrage in China over thousands of faulty vaccines for children - CNN

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)60900-4/fulltext https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/02/150227-polio-pakistan-vaccination-taliban-osama-bin-laden/

schestowitz

Just because a supposed vaccine exists does not automatically make it legit and risk free (it depends which one)

Jan 05 21:35

schestowitz

Jan 05 21:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.com | DEFINE_ME

Jan 05 21:36

schestowitz

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-cia-fake-vaccination-campaign-endangers-us-all/

Jan 05 21:36

vZS1

If there's legitimate data about efficacy, I will be one of the first to share the results and immunise myself by taking a vaccine.

Jan 05 21:38

vZS1

But I've literally found no proper data. Like said already, it's just a global trial.

schestowitz

my dad agrees

schestowitz

he's very pro-vaccine

vZS1

Even the WHO clearly state all that we have now is trials

schestowitz

but not THIS one, not yet

vZS1

I am also very pro vaccine

schestowitz

careful of the straw men

vZS1

I've taken every vaccine I needed to

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schestowitz

like I said, they make it binary

schestowitz

either pro-ALL or anti-ALL

vZS1

Have spent time debunking anti-vax bullshit

vZS1

Yeah

vZS1

You're grouped in with the loonies

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schestowitz

then you have monopoly aspects

schestowitz

aside from effectiveness, risk etc.

schestowitz

nobody wants to talk about it

schestowitz

it harms sales

schestowitz

media won't write about it

schestowitz

"YOU ARE HELPING ANTIXAVVERS!!'

vZS1

At least the Oxford trial vaccine is relatively affordable

schestowitz

oops, typos

schestowitz

Gates makes profits from it

https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation

schestowitz

corporations are "communities" now

Jan 05 21:42

schestowitz

monopolies are "charities"

Jan 05 21:42

schestowitz

welcome to Brave New Wooooorld

Jan 05 21:42

schestowitz

If it makes you sick, GOOD

schestowitz

someone will profit from your sickness

schestowitz

Get real sick, odten

schestowitz

good for the "economy"

schestowitz

for the "job creators"

schestowitz

esp. where they have no public health system

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/20/045310ce82198c9e.jpg

MinceR

vZS1

schestowitz: that's a really good article. Did you share that on your personal website? I don't think I follow the RSS for that

vZS1

Send me a link, if you do have an RSS for that

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vZS1

I'll share that article. Thanks

XRevan86

MinceR: Are you subscribed to some feed called something like CuteMatingFoxes?

Jan 05 21:45

XRevan86

I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

Jan 05 21:45

MinceR

Jan 05 21:46

MinceR

i just browse the "top" category on pr0gramm.com

Jan 05 21:46

MinceR

also, these seem to be too young to be mating

Jan 05 21:46

vZS1

pr0gramm is like the German version of Reddit

Jan 05 21:48

MinceR

more like imgur

Jan 05 21:49

schestowitz

MinceR: foxy style again?

MinceR

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

schestowitz

vZS1: the nation is in our Daily Links, the good articles anyway

schestowitz

I know the author online

schestowitz

it was also mentioned in http://techrights.org/2020/10/06/bill-gates-profiteering/

Jan 05 21:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Latest Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates Explores His Latest Vaccine Profiteering Drive | Techrights

Jan 05 21:57

schestowitz

vZS1: he is just critising rich people

Jan 05 21:59

schestowitz

so he is "bitter" and "jelous"

Jan 05 21:59

schestowitz

corporate media will shun such 'abusive' reports

Jan 05 21:59

schestowitz

jealousy is the blatant and foremost "line" against critics of Gates

schestowitz

"just jealous"

schestowitz

ignore the facts

schestowitz

they're just wishing they had his wealth

schestowitz

Trump is unpopular

schestowitz

because of "jealousy"

schestowitz

not cruelty"

schestowitz

They "Want his wife"

schestowitz

etc. etc.

schestowitz

"Data science" typically means surveillance, the bread and butter of IBM https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/following-the-data-science-methodology/

Jan 05 22:03

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Following the data science methodology – IBM Developer

Jan 05 22:03

vZS1

It's a shame more readers don't participate in this IRC

Jan 05 22:04

vZS1

They can learn so much more

Jan 05 22:04

schestowitz

not always

schestowitz

remember

schestowitz

more is not always better

schestowitz

you can end up with k00ks here

schestowitz

we recently had major smtp issues

schestowitz

which we could not easily overcome

schestowitz

that impacts people's ability to sign up and comment

schestowitz

and if we got comments on our Gates articles, it would do more harm than good

Jan 05 22:07

schestowitz

and help paint the research as some looney stuff with qanon drones in comments

Jan 05 22:07

DaemonFC[m]

The state police never started working on my appeal.

Jan 05 22:24

DaemonFC[m]

So my FOID card will take ANOTHER YEAR to get back if they even start working on it now.

Jan 05 22:24

DaemonFC[m]

I remember schestowitz getting after me about my feeling that a lot of these COVID victims had it coming.

Jan 05 22:25

DaemonFC[m]

Well, I mean, if you think about it....Who isn't washing their hands, wearing a mask, or not avoiding mass gatherings?

Jan 05 22:26

DaemonFC[m]

Maybe a little collective punishment isn't the worst thing ever.

Jan 05 22:26

DaemonFC[m]

Most of the people getting this are arrogant, entitled, and ignorant.

Jan 05 22:26

DaemonFC[m]

It's a disease that uses ignorance to spread.

DaemonFC[m]

Who is having mass gatherings with no masks? Rave parties in Chicago and churches.

DaemonFC[m]

I don't get why the police can shut down one but not the other.

DaemonFC[m]

Should unlicensed rave be a religion so they can't shut them down?

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: Mom was actively shunned by all the people at her church for staying home. Then they had an outbreak there where damned near everybody got the virus.

Jan 05 22:28

DaemonFC[m]

It seems at least 24 Senate Republicans say they'll vote to certify the electoral votes.

Jan 05 22:35

DaemonFC[m]

That means that the objections won't do anything except waste floor time. 2 hours per state that is objected to.

Jan 05 22:35

DaemonFC[m]

The Republicans can't waste more than 102 hours of floor time, which would only take them up to like January 16th, and that's of they objected to every slate of electors, including Trump's.

Jan 05 22:36

DaemonFC[m]

The more objections they file, the more time to appoint judges and stuff they screw themselves out of.

Jan 05 22:36

DaemonFC[m]

The most I could see this going is objecting to all of Biden's electors which wastes maybe the next 5 days.

Jan 05 22:37

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Jan 05 22:38

DaemonFC[m]

MinceR: They have a religious right to spread COVID, mostly between themselves, but to create clusters that everyone has to deal with.

Jan 05 22:41

DaemonFC[m]

After all, it's spiritual health that matters.

DaemonFC[m]

The financial health of the church even more, I suppose.

MinceR

it's the way Papa Nurgle wants it to be

DaemonFC[m]

Once nobody is looking, donations drop.

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Jan 05 22:43

DaemonFC[m]

More worried about impressing others who are in the room with them than God, apparently.

Jan 05 22:43

MinceR

perhaps they secretly believe that "God" actually can handle money

Jan 05 22:44

schestowitz

God does not think he's Larry Ellison

Jan 05 22:47

DaemonFC[m]

God loves you and HE NEEDS MONEY! -Carlin

Jan 05 22:48

DaemonFC[m]

Of course he does.

Jan 05 22:48

DaemonFC[m]

All of those houses he doesn't even live in.

DaemonFC[m]

Lots of corrupt officials claiming to do his work while they fuck kids.

DaemonFC[m]

It gets expensive.

schestowitz

Electron bloat https://betanews.com/2021/01/05/new-windows-95/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | New version of Windows 95 runs on Windows, macOS and Linux, with dedicated builds for ARM-based systems

schestowitz

anyone bothering with this crap?

schestowitz

they keep pushing it

MinceR

nope

schestowitz

it's just browser crap

schestowitz

not platform

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schestowitz

that's like saying my bank is now "available for Linux"

DaemonFC[m]

Windows 95 running on an emulator. Woohoo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axL47jZTGdg

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]

What would you even do with it these days?

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-God Loves You, but He Needs Money! George Carlin - YouTube

DaemonFC[m]

It's too old to work on the internet.

MinceR

same as in the old days: overwrite it with a real OS

MinceR

free hype for the redmond mafia

psydroid

crashes just as fast as it did when it was first released

schestowitz

I used to link a lot to his skits

schestowitz

and then Assange copied them off me :-)

DaemonFC[m]

It predates DirectX.

schestowitz

hopefully he'll be out soon

DaemonFC[m]

It won't have media codecs.

MinceR

i guess you could run Adobe Trash on it

DaemonFC[m]

Hey, no media codecs.

schestowitz

MinceR: :-)

DaemonFC[m]

Maybe it's safe from those weaponized exploits against Tails.

MinceR

is the weaponized exploit against Tails called "systemd"?

schestowitz

I heard Heads is not maintained anymore

schestowitz

since 2019 iirc

MinceR

or is it some other one?

schestowitz

no releases

schestowitz

it's tails sans systemd***

psydroid

what is Adobe's role in the push for the reanimation of Backdoors?

Jan 05 22:54

MinceR

probably nothing

Jan 05 22:55

MinceR

but i still occasionally encounter pages that depend on Trash

Jan 05 22:55

MinceR

i figured it would be fitting

Jan 05 22:55

schestowitz

maybe one day www/html too

schestowitz

will be deprecated within a decade

MinceR

only if the oligarchy manages to come up with something even worse

schestowitz

what to be replaced by? Who knows... let's wait and see, hoping it's not more DRM and monopolistic garbage

schestowitz

www grew as a way out of monopolies

schestowitz

now we need www alternatives

schestowitz

for the same reasons

schestowitz

www became like api

schestowitz

to bypass passing .doc crap around

schestowitz

and ms file servers

vZS1: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/01/cryptocurrency-stealer-for-windows-macos-and-linux-went-undetected-for-a-year/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cryptocurrency stealer for Windows, macOS, and Linux went undetected for a year | Ars Technica

schestowitz

FUD still in full swing

schestowitz

he got sued for libel already

https://arstechnica.com/author/dan-goodin/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Dan Goodin | Ars Technica

schestowitz

changed his manipulated photro

schestowitz

used to be in El Reg

schestowitz

Now works for Arse Technically Pedophile

schestowitz

where the author/moderator was arrested for raping children

http://techrights.org/2019/06/07/microsoft-peter-is-a-pedophile/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter is a Pedophile, Arrested Without Bail | Techrights

MinceR

dan goodin is the new drpizza?

schestowitz

schestowitz

he's a clickbait arse

https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/19/e1816bed9eb38f34.jpg

MinceR

Jan 05 23:07

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Jan 05 23:09

schestowitz

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19805993

Jan 05 23:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #dangoodin at Arse Technically Pedophile is now spreading 'security' FUD against #cryptocoins while #googlebombing OS names (including "Linux") for clickbait

Jan 05 23:11

schestowitz

https://twitter.com/ZoomMyView/status/1346169813601837062

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ZoomMyView: How else can we bring #JulianAssange home? https://t.co/eZuBTKrB3I

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Julian Assange’s Extradition DENIED by British Court (Updated) | Techrights

https://twitter.com/SYekalis/status/1346106692178751489

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SYekalis: Who is Julian Assange a threat to now?!! https://t.co/hy1dasVykq

vZS1

There's a full swing propaganda campaign going on against Monero right now

Jan 05 23:14

vZS1

Cabal doesn't like the fact that people can have privacy with their finances

schestowitz

arse = conde nast

schestowitz

check who owns them

schestowitz

finance in nYC

vZS1

Same ilk as Zdnet

schestowitz

they did lots of the discrediting campaigns, associating crypto with drugs

schestowitz

zdnet is same city

schestowitz

but different family

vZS1

I doubt the people writing for them get paid much at all

Jan 05 23:17

vZS1

The writing betrays their lack of education

Jan 05 23:17

vZS1

So it must be some hobby people getting a few pennies to write FUD

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19806019

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pains me to see #phoronix outsourcing to #microsoft now https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pts-10-2&num=1 #deletegithub #monopoly #ProprietarySoftware

vZS1

Hosting for the sites can't cost much either

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Phoronix Test Suite 10.2 Released For Open-Source, Cross-Platform Automated Benchmarking - Phoronix

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Jan 05 23:19

vZS1

And they give each other "awards" to try to build an air of credibility

Jan 05 23:19

vZS1

schestowitz: like you mentioned in a recent video

Jan 05 23:19

schestowitz

that's how they make money

schestowitz

patent sites do this a lot

schestowitz

then the law firms present virtual (fake) endorsements

schestowitz

and they look like they're good

vZS1

It's just smoke and mirrors

vZS1

But people are gullible so it works

http://techrights.org/2020/07/24/demolish-the-opposition/

vZS1

A pretty big YouTuber said to me "I love their [TR] work but don't want to use them as a source".

Jan 05 23:22

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Jan 05 23:22

vZS1

I prodded and asked why. When TR has citations for everything.

Jan 05 23:23

vZS1

I got bogus replies about "presentation"

Jan 05 23:23

vZS1

I'm no longer going to send them things. Just another fake

Jan 05 23:23

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Jan 05 23:24

vZS1

One of those "woke" types

Jan 05 23:24

vZS1

It was very disappointing

Jan 05 23:24

vZS1

The same for that charity I was talking about earlier

Jan 05 23:25

vZS1

I sent them things and they just went quiet

Jan 05 23:25

vZS1

But I'm still trying. I share whenever the context gives me a chance

Jan 05 23:26

schestowitz

vZS1: http://techrights.org/2020/05/11/media-obfuscation/

Jan 05 23:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fine Art of Media Obfuscation to Discredit Critics | Techrights

Jan 05 23:32

schestowitz

Jan 05 23:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How to Dismiss One’s Opposition or Discredit One’s Exposer/s Without Doing or Saying Anything of Substance | Techrights

Jan 05 23:33

schestowitz

I am still looking for something else though

Jan 05 23:33

schestowitz

oh, this: http://techrights.org/2020/09/06/excuses-and-distractions/

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schestowitz

“It’s old news”

schestowitz

“I found a typo”

schestowitz

“The headline’s capitalisation style is wrong”

schestowitz

“The site isn’t mobile-friendly”

schestowitz

“The fonts are of the wrong size”

schestowitz

“The stylesheet isn’t good with my browser”

schestowitz

“I don’t like the site”

schestowitz

“I dislike the author”

schestowitz

vZS1: there was a campaign apparently to smear us, behind the scenes

schestowitz

same people working to cancel Oliva, RMS, Pocock

schestowitz

as they talk about the F word

schestowitz

(freedom)

schestowitz

very dirty

*schestowitz comes to grip getting hope repairs this past year is close to impossible :/

Jan 05 23:38

schestowitz

we have roof issue (soggy/leak)

Jan 05 23:38

vZS1

I'm pretty sure essential repairs are still allowed

Jan 05 23:39

vZS1

So look into it first before giving up hope

Jan 05 23:39

schestowitz

I cannot repair it myself

Jan 05 23:39

schestowitz

neither the tools to reach it or work on it

vZS1

I mean to contact someone that can

schestowitz

they might say it's not essential

vZS1

Nothing like asking

schestowitz

not sure

schestowitz

was gonna phone next week

schestowitz

then lockdown

schestowitz

the gym won't reopen as planned (Jan 9th)

vZS1

I've had some one in a few days ago to fix my washing machine

schestowitz

it's a good thing I'm married, otherwise it would get rather lonely with all this stay-at-home infinity loop

schestowitz

vZS1: that's in times of loosening restrictions

schestowitz

when we bought a replacement they refused to install

schestowitz

or even to take the old one

vZS1

Did your old one still work?

schestowitz

vZS1

Strange

schestowitz

they don't care about the laws

schestowitz

because corona

schestowitz

see EPO

schestowitz

illegal? BUT CORONA

schestowitz

I'm losing my patience for some of these things

DaemonFC[m]

The landlord in Fox Lake was pretty much just letting the roof leak and halfassing repairs to it.

schestowitz

like gov. "brexit means brexit" but you cannot register because CORONA

schestowitz

"get an app"

DaemonFC[m]

That place has got to be a money pit. He can't rent it because nobody wants to hike half a mile up and down a hill./

schestowitz

If Scotland rejoins EU, maybe we'll move there

Jan 05 23:45

schestowitz

and I know if that happened (indyref, then indy), we would not be alone

Jan 05 23:45

schestowitz

with lockdowns the fascistories won't let alone referendum happen

schestowitz

because CORONA!

schestowitz

'fcourse!

http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Edinburgh

schestowitz

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vZS1

I'm betting on Scotxit

vZS1

Within 2.5 years

vZS1

Let's see if that's a good guess :D

schestowitz

it has a name already

schestowitz

ScotJoin

schestowitz

after Scotxit

schestowitz

join EU, not UK

https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/19/0481f7a34fba12d8.jpg

MinceR

schestowitz

maybe they'll treat sturgeon like Spain treated Catalan politicians.... charged with sedition by Clown Johnson

psydroid

who is going to be the queen of Scotland, though?

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: I'll be Barry Whatshisnuts is kicking himself for letting me out of that lease now.

DaemonFC[m]

I could probably sue him for breach of contract honestly.

MinceR

they could keep the current one or become a republic

vZS1

~90% voted for independence in the Catalan referendum

DaemonFC[m]

He had no right to terminate that lease unless I was convicted of a Class A Misdemeanor or a felony.

DaemonFC[m]

And I wasn't.

vZS1

So where's this "democracy"?

MinceR

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

vZS1

Is it on holiday?

schestowitz

EU sidled with Madrid

DaemonFC[m]

Of course, that's assuming that John tells the truth. He lies, and gropes kids, you know.

schestowitz

because... need membership

schestowitz

and members' money

DaemonFC[m]

Like I was even going to argue about staying on a lease with THAT.

DaemonFC[m]

I threw Barry Whatshisnuts in the bankruptcy because why not.

schestowitz

vZS1: corona is a holiday to people who break the law with impunity

schestowitz

and seek endless leeway

schestowitz

like Alex "water cannon" Johndon

schestowitz

*son

DaemonFC[m]

They're worried that Kenosha will be destroyed, again.

DaemonFC[m]

After they declined to press charges against Jacob Blake's shooter.

MinceR

vZS1: it failed (due to people being too stupid) and died

DaemonFC[m]

They also said they wouldn't charge Blake though. I guess they kindly dropped the charges of being shot in the back 7 times by a police officer.

vZS1

When Scotland vote for independence, Westminster will probably do a Madrid

Jan 05 23:53

DaemonFC[m]

Then I got ensnared by the Illinois law that was meant to stop black people from having guns, schestowitz

Jan 05 23:53

DaemonFC[m]

My appeal is in purgatory.

Jan 05 23:53

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: The Mozilla maintenance service checks for recent changes to default browser and makes sure it was you with a pop-up.

Jan 05 23:54

DaemonFC[m]

Pop-up wars over default browser. That's nice.

Jan 05 23:54

schestowitz

not on gnu/linux I gues

schestowitz

we don't have that crap

schestowitz

you set program and file association in the DE

schestowitz

or the file manager of choice