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| techrights-news | #covid19 <3 #uk "freedom day" (freedom for COVID to pass from person to person at alarming rates, over a million people per month! And those are just the confirmed ones) | Oct 09 00:00 |
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| techrights-news | #uk gov. 2020: if you test positive, stay home. UK gov. today (in the news!), 2021: if you test negative but feel unwell, also stay home. 2022: just stay confined inside your home (or face penalties) because the regime tells you to, even if you feel well and test negative for #covid19 | Oct 09 00:02 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cspms5dx2has6.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 09 00:04 | |
| techrights-news | #uk #borisnaro rhetoric: "freedom" is when #covid19 spreads everywhere, all the time. Reality: when the virus spreads to almost everyone the regime can arbitrarily restrict the movement and other basic freedoms of almost anyone. Public service? WHAT public service? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/15/brexit-systemic-racism/ | Oct 09 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » National Government and Local Councils Give the Middle Finger to EU Citizens Long Settled in the United Kingdom | Oct 09 00:04 | |
| techrights-news | Rule of thumb: the further #covid19 spreads, the less control people will have because the regime can leverage a sense of emergency and presumption of "leper status" with the burden of proof NOT on the accuser. People are presumed "dangerous", esp. protesters and dissenters. See #russia under #putin weaponising this... | Oct 09 00:07 |
| techrights-news | People who say, "take the mask off" and "herd immunity" aren't protecting your freedom; they merely heighten the state of tension and exacerbate the crisis. I think we can all agree masks don't harm freedom much (in relative terms) and combined with proper distancing they're very effective. | Oct 09 00:09 |
| techrights-news | When #RMS gave his talk in #ukraine he did not demand people get vaccinated for #covid19 but that they all wear masks, distance, and open doors for a better flow of fresher air. I am disappointed though that he supports mandates for premature products with loads of unethical #patents on them (to increase prices ~10 fold) http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/rms-ukraine-talk/ | Oct 09 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman’s First Public Talk (Delivered in Person) in Years, Now With a Free Format | Techrights | Oct 09 00:11 | |
| activelow | another propaganda round, falsifying history: portrayal of guest workers in east germany | Oct 09 00:13 |
| activelow | the socialist agenda was this, to both: benefit from workforce from other socialiest countries such as vietnam and mosambik, AND to EDUCATE those guest workers | Oct 09 00:14 |
| activelow | a documentary broadcasted reinterprets this victimizing guest workers | Oct 09 00:15 |
| activelow | which is somehow remarkable, because eastern/asia did develop their economy in cooperation with socialist allies | Oct 09 00:16 |
| activelow | and ordinary german workers weren't particularly privileged either in comparison | Oct 09 00:16 |
| techrights-news | IA or #internetarchive is being vandalised by #javascript right now. #proprietarySoftware and #accessibility nightmare. They must correct this. The sooner, the better. Don't turn the Web into a pile of bloated computer programs. | Oct 09 00:17 |
| activelow | whatever the propaganda apparatus touches, it must be framed into a victimizing narrative | Oct 09 00:18 |
| activelow | then shortly after 1990 when millions of east germans lost their jobs violence escalated, Rostock Lichtenhagen, after 1990, not before | Oct 09 00:18 |
| techrights-news | This post in support of #rms has been deleted and I cannot retrieve it from #internetarchive either https://old.reddit.com/r/uwaterloo/comments/k35jw5/richard_stallman_is_being_falsely_accused_of/ | Oct 09 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.reddit.com | Richard Stallman is being falsely accused of things he did not do : uwaterloo | Oct 09 00:19 | |
| activelow | the documentary too was remarkable because it portrayed a young vietnamese woman, offspring of those guest workers, presenting her arts and understanding of electronics production | Oct 09 00:20 |
| techrights-news | When #internetarchive fails there's still archive.is https://archive.is/l8hw6 | Oct 09 00:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The University is violating their own policies regarding free speech : uwaterloo | Oct 09 00:21 | |
| techrights-news | The real #epstein scandal at #mit is #billgates http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ | Oct 09 00:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights | Oct 09 00:21 | |
| activelow | doubt this woman ever had studied any maths or electronics to hold any authority to present her arts | Oct 09 00:21 |
| activelow | needless to say all manufacturing was "outsourced" after 1990, and who had benefit from this? east-germany? doubt it. | Oct 09 00:23 |
| activelow | maybe east-germany better had not supported vietnam during the war, however they were involved, and not welcomed guest workers instead? | Oct 09 00:25 |
| activelow | so, what are they trying to accomplish with such documentaries? re-fuel some "decolonization" and victimization narrative? | Oct 09 00:26 |
| techrights-news | And #google cache still has that deleted post https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BzI7wqUBZbkJ:https://libredd.it/r/uwaterloo/comments/k35jw5/richard_stallman_is_being_falsely_accused_of/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk | Oct 09 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webcache.googleusercontent.com | Richard Stallman is being falsely accused of things he did not do - r/uwaterloo | Oct 09 00:27 | |
| techrights-news | #Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales ( #MIT ) Covers Up #BillGates #Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ | Oct 09 00:28 |
| activelow | needless to say, i'll not offer any lectures. i declined a PHd course from Telekom 15 years ago already, and hell yes had my feelings not been wrong about those agitators. | Oct 09 00:28 |
| techrights-news | 2020: Published One Year Ago Today: The Real #MIT Scandal (Before Attention Was Shifted Entirely to Richard Stallman) • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-real-mit-scandal/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-real-mit-scandal/ | Oct 09 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Published One Year Ago Today: The Real MIT Scandal (Before Attention Was Shifted Entirely to Richard Stallman) | Techrights | Oct 09 00:29 | |
| techrights-news | 2020: #WhistleblowerAid Already Showed Cover-up of #BillGates ’Contributions’ to #MIT • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/whistleblower-aid-gates-mit-epstein/ ䷉ #Techrights #jeffreyEpstein | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/11/whistleblower-aid-gates-mit-epstein/ | Oct 09 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Whistleblower Aid Already Showed Cover-up of Bill Gates ‘Contributions’ to MIT | Techrights | Oct 09 00:29 | |
| techrights-news | 2020: #MIT and #Microsoft Have Done Nothing to Actually Tackle #Pedophilia and #Ephebophilia • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/01/26/mit-and-ms-or-mbs-billg/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/01/26/mit-and-ms-or-mbs-billg/ after the Gates divorce we know what pervert Bill did... | Oct 09 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | MIT and Microsoft Have Done Nothing to Actually Tackle Pedophilia and Ephebophilia | Techrights | Oct 09 00:30 | |
| techrights-news | 2020: One Year Later #RichardStallman Needs to be Un-cancelled and Attention Turned to the Real Perpetrator of #MIT Scandals • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/09/18/a-real-perpetrator-of-mit-scandals/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #billgates #jeffreyEpstein | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/09/18/a-real-perpetrator-of-mit-scandals/ | Oct 09 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Richard Stallman Needs to be Un-cancelled and Attention Turned to the Real Perpetrator of MIT Scandals | Techrights | Oct 09 00:31 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: docus are overrated | Oct 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | many are convenient revisonism | Oct 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | spun as objective documentation of hsistorical fast | Oct 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | plus some slant and shifted focus for entertainment and rating | Oct 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | one example of Michael Moore documentaries | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're largely political statements | Oct 09 00:33 |
| *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 09 00:33 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe soon we'll have 'documentaries' about Nokia and Microsoft | Oct 09 00:33 |
| activelow | this woman was complaining east-germans kept human resources records, and arranged for living quarters | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | there were already some Esptein docus that curiously enough omit Bill Gates | Oct 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and one can imagine why or who funds this etc. | Oct 09 00:34 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: fact is in east-germany flats were scarce, in particular the modern one with heating! | Oct 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | to shift attention to other people etc. | Oct 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | berlin flats look bad to me | Oct 09 00:34 |
| activelow | before 1990 | Oct 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | when we were there it still looked very brutalist | Oct 09 00:34 |
| activelow | i wouldn't argue by todays standards living quarters were luxerious, however most east-germans were keen on renting such flats | Oct 09 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | one friend from germany calls berlin "worst of germany' | Oct 09 00:35 |
| activelow | because heating; the majority of flats required an oven heated with coal | Oct 09 00:36 |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/04/bofh_2021_episode_6/ | Oct 09 00:36 |
| altlink_c3e | 📣 theregister.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 00:36 |
| altlink_c3e | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/04/bofh_2021_episode_6/ | Oct 09 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | BOFH: I'm so pleased to be on the call, Boss. No, of course this isn't a recording • The Register | Oct 09 00:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | BOFH: I'm so pleased to be on the call, Boss. No, of course this isn't a recording • The Register | Oct 09 00:36 | |
| leah | 8GB RAM is the new 1GB. 4GB is the new 512MB | Oct 09 00:37 |
| techrights-news | Full Circle Weekly News #230 | Oct 09 00:37 |
| *leah has 8GB RAM now | Oct 09 00:37 | |
| leah | MinceR: new bofh episodes!? | Oct 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | "Earlier [Quint] had built a water collecting system using his gutters and a bell siphon but wasn’t satisfied with the overall power output." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/08/power-your-home-with-a-water-battery/ | Oct 09 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Power Your Home With A Water Battery | Hackaday | Oct 09 00:37 | |
| MinceR | if 8GB RAM is the new 1GB and 4GB is the new 512MB, then 2GB is the new 256MB, 1GB is the new 128MB, therefore 8GB is the new 128MB... | Oct 09 00:37 |
| leah | actually, i can see how BOFH could make a comeback in the era of covid | Oct 09 00:38 |
| MinceR | leah: this one isn't that new | Oct 09 00:38 |
| leah | with less people going to work, and instead working from home, more sysadmins are needed to run all of the internet infrastructure | Oct 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | how so? | Oct 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | for remote access? | Oct 09 00:38 |
| leah | i guess | Oct 09 00:38 |
| MinceR | if 1GB is the new 128MB, then 512MB is the new 64MB and 256MB is the new 32MB and 128MB is the new 16MB, so 8GB is the new 16MB | Oct 09 00:38 |
| leah | though probably people will use zoom instead of some self-hosted solution | Oct 09 00:38 |
| leah | so my statement doesn't really hold water | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown computing | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | clam computing | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | clamp | Oct 09 00:39 |
| leah | cloudfarce | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | we call it clownflare | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it powers too much of the web | Oct 09 00:39 |
| MinceR | the newest BOFH is from yesterday, though | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | a cdn running at a loss | Oct 09 00:39 |
| leah | cloudfarce | Oct 09 00:39 |
| MinceR | i call it crimeflare | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | operating at losses | Oct 09 00:39 |
| leah | fastly is now named farcely | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | to help the US commandeer a lot of site | Oct 09 00:39 |
| MinceR | fartly | Oct 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | spying, censorship, and more | Oct 09 00:40 |
| leah | extra extra! centralized infrastructure leads to massive amounts of control from bureaucrats | Oct 09 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | some 'sites' are just little AWS instance | Oct 09 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | pages served with clownflare | Oct 09 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | HECK! | Oct 09 00:40 |
| leah | sudo apt-get install nginx | Oct 09 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | just use blogspot | Oct 09 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | same shit | Oct 09 00:40 |
| leah | sudo ufw allow http | Oct 09 00:40 |
| leah | sudo ufw allow https | Oct 09 00:40 |
| leah | sudo apt-get install certbot | Oct 09 00:40 |
| leah | that's how i make a website | Oct 09 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | makes sense | Oct 09 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but whataboudaclown | Oct 09 00:41 |
| activelow | outbound filtering is a weakness often | Oct 09 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | my wife wasted 3 hours today trying to add 2 users in AWS | Oct 09 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they call it "easy" | Oct 09 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, if you spend months memorising GUIs, proprietary crap, to pass an exam | Oct 09 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then within 5 years it's all shuffled all over so your 'skills' are worthless aleady | Oct 09 00:42 |
| leah | yes and learning that makes you more money than learning e=mc2 | Oct 09 00:42 |
| leah | these days | Oct 09 00:42 |
| leah | nobody learns how anything works | Oct 09 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the clown in a nutshell: cargo cults, hype, buzzwords, passing fads | Oct 09 00:43 |
| leah | "IT" in my school days was microcoft office 2003 | Oct 09 00:43 |
| leah | microsoft* | Oct 09 00:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember all those other "clown" "tech" that vanished? | Oct 09 00:43 |
| leah | the laws of physics do not change. and the internet doesn't change | Oct 09 00:43 |
| leah | but how we use it does | Oct 09 00:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does change a bit | Oct 09 00:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I still wait to see "the year of ipv6" :-) | Oct 09 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | we were promised this when i was an 18-y-o student | Oct 09 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm turning 40 some time soon | Oct 09 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | we were also promise QUANTUM computing | Oct 09 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | how did THAT turn out 2 decades later? | Oct 09 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | *promised | Oct 09 00:45 |
| leah | for my ISP, the year of IPv6 was 1998 | Oct 09 00:45 |
| leah | they've offered it on the order form since 1998. and provided it by default since 2004 | Oct 09 00:45 |
| *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Oct 09 00:46 | |
| leah | they actually refer to the IPv4 internet as "legacy internet" | Oct 09 00:46 |
| schestowitz | The “Strike Regulations” long protected by #AntónioCampinos (for more than 3 years) were supported by the Dutch delegation despite being unlawful; we take a look back at the people who made these illegal policies possible • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/08/dutch-role-illegal-epo-policies/ | Oct 09 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part VI: A Distinct Lack of Dutch Courage | Techrights | Oct 09 00:46 | |
| *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Oct 09 00:46 | |
| techrights-news | Though it’s customary to assume a strong sense of justice in #Holland , the #EPO ’s affairs serve to dispute, disprove, and dispel such widespread perceptions • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/08/the-dutch-and-the-law/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/08/the-dutch-and-the-law/ | Oct 09 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Unlawful Legacy of Guus Broesterhuizen, Paul van Beukering, and Derk-Jan de Groot | Techrights | Oct 09 00:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: the pentagon monopolies will soon refer to them as "LEGACY ISPS" | Oct 09 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | seeing they want to control everything in the pipeline | Oct 09 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. broadband | Oct 09 00:47 |
| activelow | ipv6 didn't fix the BGP routing table sizes, which maybe is more critical than lack of v4 addresses, and v6 can accelerate the BGP routing table chaos | Oct 09 00:47 |
| activelow | BGP issues was what took down fb | Oct 09 00:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: whereabouts are you based? I heard you gave talks in usland | Oct 09 00:49 |
| leah | i live in the UK | Oct 09 00:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | someone left me with the impression you were north american | Oct 09 00:50 |
| leah | however, i have a great affinity for the people of 5th floor, 51 franklin street, boston, ma 02110 | Oct 09 00:50 |
| leah | yeah lol everyone thinks i'm an american but i'm not | Oct 09 00:50 |
| leah | i have a thick essex accent | Oct 09 00:50 |
| leah | though technically i'm a northerner, but i've lived in essex since i was a kid | Oct 09 00:50 |
| *schestowitz-TR thinks of 'posh' YV shows with arrogant people in them | Oct 09 00:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | *TV | Oct 09 00:51 |
| leah | have you ever heard my voice? | Oct 09 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Oct 09 00:51 |
| leah | you wouldn't think i'm an american if you did | Oct 09 00:51 |
| techrights-news | #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156581 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 00:52 | |
| leah | i have a great idea | Oct 09 00:52 |
| leah | i will link you to something | Oct 09 00:52 |
| leah | https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=oGc4tAR36yo | Oct 09 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | freenode #live 2018 - Leah Rowe - Libreboot - Invidious | Oct 09 00:54 | |
| leah | here is my *failed* libreboot talk at freenode.live 2018 | Oct 09 00:54 |
| leah | their projector was designed for hdmi, and someone in the audience brought me a usb-powered vga to hdmi adapter so i could connect my libreboot thinkpad | Oct 09 00:54 |
| techrights-news | "it’s supplied with Firefox, it can capture screenshots, it understands JavaScript stacks, and Firefox is adding “markers” to indicate important events that may be useful to developers." https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/10/08/reducing-the-overhead-of-profiling-firefox-sleeping-threads/ | Oct 09 00:55 |
| altlink_c3e | 📣 mozilla.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 00:55 |
| altlink_c3e | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/10/08/reducing-the-overhead-of-profiling-firefox-sleeping-threads/ | Oct 09 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Reducing the Overhead of Profiling Firefox Sleeping Threads – Mozilla Performance | Oct 09 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Reducing the Overhead of Profiling Firefox Sleeping Threads – Mozilla Performance | Oct 09 00:55 | |
| leah | but i neglected to realize: usb-powered. so i wasn't powering it, and thought it was just broken or something. so did the whole talk without slides. but yeah that's my voice. not an american :) | Oct 09 00:55 |
| leah | those were different times. that talk is from another era | Oct 09 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | not very essex accent | Oct 09 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | which i guess makes sense | Oct 09 00:56 |
| leah | an era of stagnation. i revived that project. in that talk, i'm lying the whole time. specifically, the lie is that the project isn't a dead project | Oct 09 00:57 |
| leah | in 2018, it was a dead project | Oct 09 00:57 |
| leah | i revived it in 2021, for real | Oct 09 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was quiet | Oct 09 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | for real | Oct 09 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | after the whole "boycott gnu" episode | Oct 09 00:57 |
| leah | yeah | Oct 09 00:57 |
| activelow | boycott gnu? | Oct 09 00:57 |
| leah | well, i felt great shame about that and stepped down, leaving others in charge | Oct 09 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | boycotting bad things is good | Oct 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and looks good in hindsight | Oct 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | we used to boycott novell until it vanished | Oct 09 00:58 |
| leah | long story short, the project went nowhere after that, and earlier this year, i decided to just revert my stepping down and take over. and i deleted 5 years of time | Oct 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | boycotting google people/orgs is bad optics | Oct 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and does not age well | Oct 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | oops | Oct 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I meane "good people" | Oct 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | types "google people" | Oct 09 00:58 |
| leah | that's what happened. deleted 5 years of time. the project went through a re-write, that's why libreboot was silent for 5 years. the re-write went stale | Oct 09 00:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the ireland of UK -) | Oct 09 00:59 |
| leah | i had re-built my relations with fsf and gnu fully, by 2020 | Oct 09 00:59 |
| leah | anyway, in late 2020 i asked the then lead developer of libreboot, when the next release was. he gave me the same answer as every year since 2017: "soon" | Oct 09 00:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see... | Oct 09 00:59 |
| leah | I then said: | Oct 09 00:59 |
| leah | i bet i could do it in a month, from scratch | Oct 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf changed a bit | Oct 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not enough | Oct 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | tech changes fast | Oct 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf moves slowlu | Oct 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | messaging on issues we had decades ago | Oct 09 01:00 |
| leah | and i did just that. but then decided not to release it, and instead spent a few months polishing. and the result was my 2021 takeover, and the libreboot 20210522 release, which i'm still proud of | Oct 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS is not familiar with many existing issues and company names | Oct 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but.. | Oct 09 01:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I might expect that for an org run by emacs users | Oct 09 01:01 |
| leah | "5 years of time deleted" that's really what happened. a re-write that dragged on for 5 years, i cancelled it completely, thus deleting 5 years of time. i revived libreboot from 2016, and brought it up to date. but with one catch: x86 only | Oct 09 01:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | who likely have not paid much attention to creeping listening devices, cars with back doors etc. | Oct 09 01:01 |
| leah | non-x86 is much more advanced nowadays in coreboot land. from 2022 onwards, my focus is post-x86 | Oct 09 01:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: x86 only might be short-sighted | Oct 09 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | x86 is not growing | Oct 09 01:02 |
| leah | yeah see what i said | Oct 09 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | in relative market terms it lost A LOT this past decade | Oct 09 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | even servers move away from it | Oct 09 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see, jumped the gun a bit | Oct 09 01:02 |
| leah | jumped the gnu, if ariadne and her alpine project have their way :) | Oct 09 01:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fact, focusing too much on laptops/desktop is also a potential mistake | Oct 09 01:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | many of today's computers you are UNABLE to access deep enough for booting freedom | Oct 09 01:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | microchips in like 100 billion devices | Oct 09 01:03 |
| leah | you mean phones and stuff? | Oct 09 01:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | even headphones | Oct 09 01:03 |
| leah | SoCs and such | Oct 09 01:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | cars have many microchips | Oct 09 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I was driving there were almost none | Oct 09 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe just dashboard | Oct 09 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even that was done mostly analogue | Oct 09 01:04 |
| leah | yeah i don't really understand that either | Oct 09 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe gas tank indicator was digitalised | Oct 09 01:04 |
| leah | making everything "smart" | Oct 09 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | selling crap | Oct 09 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | leah: I can immediately notice ye have a non-rhotic accent. | Oct 09 01:05 |
| leah | it's a 6 ton heap of metal with wheels on it. this isn't complicated | Oct 09 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to repair | Oct 09 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't even keep spares 5 years down the line | Oct 09 01:05 |
| leah | non-rhotic? | Oct 09 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | leah: start → staht | Oct 09 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6 tons? | Oct 09 01:05 |
| activelow | worked for a german automotive supplier, subsidiary of continental, who developed "infotainment" and navigation systems | Oct 09 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | what car do you drive? semi trailers are maybe 20 | Oct 09 01:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | trucks 4-6 when empty | Oct 09 01:06 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: i don't drive, but when i do, it's usually big diesel cars | Oct 09 01:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but 6 tons sounds wrong | Oct 09 01:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me check hummer | Oct 09 01:06 |
| leah | i don't know how much cars weigh | Oct 09 01:06 |
| leah | i was just estimating | Oct 09 01:06 |
| schestowitz | 2,900 kg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer | Oct 09 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hummer - Wikipedia | Oct 09 01:06 | |
| activelow | an average car? 1.5tons | Oct 09 01:07 |
| schestowitz | it barely gets heavier than this | Oct 09 01:07 |
| leah | oh right. XRevan86 you mean i don't pronounce the r | Oct 09 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Also ye have a very British thing which is the /kaːnt/ pronunciation. | Oct 09 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | * /kɑːnt/ | Oct 09 01:07 |
| leah | https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=jQNjgVfiJ_o | Oct 09 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | Rhotic vs Non Rhotic Accents - Invidious | Oct 09 01:08 | |
| leah | i'm watching this | Oct 09 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | Non-rhotic American pronunciation is a thing, and rhotic British pronunciation too (schestowitz is an example of that). | Oct 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | compu-ha | Oct 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | versus compu-TER | Oct 09 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | The "t" is another thing. | Oct 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz | baha | Oct 09 01:10 |
| schestowitz | bu-TTER | Oct 09 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | Rhoticity is specifically the "r". | Oct 09 01:10 |
| leah | but i do pronounce the R | Oct 09 01:10 |
| leah | e.g. remote | Oct 09 01:10 |
| techrights-news | "Some of the services I host are hosted behind dynamic DNS. There are lots of services to automatically update the dns records if the IP changes, but most of them are not free or require regular confirmation of the domain." https://jbb.ghsq.ga/2021/10/07/DDNS.html | Oct 09 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbb.ghsq.ga | DDNS with Hetzner DNS | Oct 09 01:10 | |
| *schestowitz-TR tries to speak as clearly as possible for non-English audience | Oct 09 01:10 | |
| XRevan86 | leah: Obviously, but not as a leading sound or before a consonant. | Oct 09 01:11 |
| *schestowitz-TR thinks it's considered 'slick' to munich words | Oct 09 01:11 | |
| schestowitz-TR | *munch | Oct 09 01:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for locals with the same dialects it's poissble to 'guess' what's munched | Oct 09 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | leah: I don't know of any English accent that would go farther than that. | Oct 09 01:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's cryptic language for the dialects | Oct 09 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | German accents do. | Oct 09 01:12 |
| leah | this man has a non-rhotic accent: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=wC3E2qTCIY8 | Oct 09 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | Arthur C Clarke predicts the internet in 1964 - Invidious | Oct 09 01:12 | |
| XRevan86 | leah: No, it's rhotic. | Oct 09 01:12 |
| leah | oh my | Oct 09 01:13 |
| leah | find me an english word with the most amount of R's in it | Oct 09 01:13 |
| leah | https://www.wordlucky.com/words-with-most/r | Oct 09 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wordlucky.com | words that containing most letter r | Oct 09 01:13 | |
| XRevan86 | It's not about the amount, it's about the position. "right" is not it, "further" is it. | Oct 09 01:13 |
| leah | now do a video pronouncing every one of those words | Oct 09 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | If ye say it like "fu/r/ther", your accent is rhotic. | Oct 09 01:14 |
| leah | for the lols | Oct 09 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: that first video is good | Oct 09 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | if like "fu-ther" (optionally with a longer vowel for maintaining the mora), then it's not | Oct 09 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of irish are rhotic | Oct 09 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. north | Oct 09 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they gfets loads of american tourists too | Oct 09 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably makes them easier to comprehend | Oct 09 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | leah: The other thing I mentioned (about "can't") is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap%E2%80%93bath_split | Oct 09 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trap–bath split - Wikipedia | Oct 09 01:16 | |
| activelow | english language vocabulary is obfuscated by transcription errors | Oct 09 01:17 |
| activelow | for example, egg, it may be written correctly, but english pronounce it wrong | Oct 09 01:17 |
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| activelow | it is pronounced correctly as ej (similar to eye), the transcription error was introduced because lower-german dialect pronounces g as j | Oct 09 01:18 |
| leah | XRevan86: i carnt fathom it | Oct 09 01:18 |
| activelow | which is the joke, with gif and jif | Oct 09 01:18 |
| techrights-news | Developers finally get Linux running on an Apple M1-powered Mac http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156507#comment-31301 | Oct 09 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi, Intel/x86, and Asahi Linux (M1) | Tux Machines | Oct 09 01:19 | |
| techrights-news | Retro Dreamer G4A CM4 by My Retro Game Case https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eddietay/retro-dreamer-g4a-cm4-by-my-retro-game-case/description SBC with #gnu #linux as handheld console on the cheap | Oct 09 01:20 |
| altlink_c3e | 📣 kickstarter.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 01:20 |
| altlink_c3e | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eddietay/retro-dreamer-g4a-cm4-by-my-retro-game-case/description | Oct 09 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kickstarter.com | NO TITLE | Oct 09 01:20 | |
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| techrights-news | Another #linux powered #gaming handheld device https://liliputing.com/2021/10/gpd-xp-is-a-modular-handheld-android-gaming-device-coming-soon.html | Oct 09 01:22 |
| altlink_c3e | 📣 liliputing.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 01:22 |
| altlink_c3e | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://liliputing.com/2021/10/gpd-xp-is-a-modular-handheld-android-gaming-device-coming-soon.html | Oct 09 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GPD XP is a modular handheld Android gaming device (coming soon) - Liliputing | Oct 09 01:22 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: The loan is from Old Norse, where it *was* pronounced with a /g/ | Oct 09 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211009002208/https://liliputing.com/2021/10/gpd-xp-is-a-modular-handheld-android-gaming-device-coming-soon.html ) | Oct 09 01:22 | |
| activelow | however g is pronounced correctly | Oct 09 01:24 |
| techrights-news | Let's hope that's all there is to it; earlier this year #raspi sold out to #microsoft and becoming ".com" is part of a bad trend, like #mozilla spinning off #freesw as "PRODUCTS" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-launches-new-site | Oct 09 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Raspberry Pi Launches New Website For Its Hardware | Tom's Hardware | Oct 09 01:24 | |
| activelow | same with Water and Wasser (because in old fraktur script t and s have a similar shape), or hate and hass | Oct 09 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: There is a loan from West-Germanic in English too: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ey#English | Oct 09 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | ey - Wiktionary | Oct 09 01:25 | |
| XRevan86 | It was there first but then got replaced by the Old Norse one: egg. | Oct 09 01:26 |
| techrights-news | "Kate has had an LSP plugin for sometime now, which uses Clangd. It's a great plugin that brings many code navigation/validation features, akin to those available in Qt Creator and KDevelop." https://ahmadsamir.github.io/2021/10/08/gcc-clang-variadic-macros-warnings.html #deletegithub #kde | Oct 09 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ahmadsamir.github.io | NO TITLE | Oct 09 01:26 | |
| XRevan86 | with spelling and with pronunciation | Oct 09 01:26 |
| activelow | XRevan86: in german "egg" is pronounced similar to eck (corner), maybe egg being the object and eck/corner the location where it was found | Oct 09 01:27 |
| techrights-news | LED Matrix Hourglass Knows Which Way Is Up | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/08/led-matrix-hourglass-knows-which-way-is-up/ ䷉ #hackaday on a neat #arduino project... | Oct 09 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LED Matrix Hourglass Knows Which Way Is Up | Hackaday | Oct 09 01:28 | |
| activelow | during stone age humans probably didn't distinguish precisely with vocabulary and grammar | Oct 09 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Why does it matter how it's pronounced in modern German? | Oct 09 01:28 |
| activelow | XRevan86: because german language can reconstruct some biblical texts, i think | Oct 09 01:29 |
| activelow | and it is a difference if live was born out of an ey (instead of created by an almighty god lord), different phrasing different meaning | Oct 09 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Just like Russian is exactly kak niemetsky, nikakoy raznitsy. | Oct 09 01:30 |
| leah | anyway. i can run mozilla thunderbird and firefox simultaneously now. 8gb is the new 1gb | Oct 09 01:30 |
| leah | when i was a teenager, you needed 1gb to do that | Oct 09 01:30 |
| leah | now you need 8gb | Oct 09 01:30 |
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| XRevan86 | activelow: What ye just said, it made no sense whatsoever. | Oct 09 01:31 |
| leah | if you install a lightweight browser like surf, and disable javascript, and use mutt+vim for email, 8gb becomes 256MB | Oct 09 01:31 |
| leah | i hate modern software. it's the same software that i used 20 years ago, but it's 100x less efficient | Oct 09 01:31 |
| leah | sometimes, the program is finished and needs no further improvement. when software gets to this point, there are 2 types of people: one of them goes on to create KDE plasma. the other simply continues to use their now perfect software | Oct 09 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ease up on folk linguistics. | Oct 09 01:33 |
| leah | and the KDE plasma people are doing great harm to the world | Oct 09 01:33 |
| leah | by encouraging people to throw away their perfectly good computers, thus contributing to e-waste, and making life very hard indeed for those of us who do not wish to upgrade our hardware | Oct 09 01:34 |
| leah | for no gain of functionality. in fact, lightweight software does more | Oct 09 01:34 |
| XRevan86 | leah: I cannot focus on software when all I can think of is the activelow's line of thought that puns in German or English are even valid for Bible interpretation. | Oct 09 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | That's wrong on so many levels I am baffled. | Oct 09 01:37 |
| activelow | XRevan86: german and english are older than the bible | Oct 09 01:38 |
| activelow | sorry leah | Oct 09 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | in what form? | Oct 09 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | all languages are connected at some levels | Oct 09 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but Germanic languages are not that old | Oct 09 01:39 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: And everyone involved weren't aware of its existence + what schestowitz said | Oct 09 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Roman maybe | Oct 09 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | even Roman in the ancient days wasn't Italian | Oct 09 01:39 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: They are that old. | Oct 09 01:39 |
| XRevan86 | but not how they are, yes | Oct 09 01:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: french and english are similar in many ways | Oct 09 01:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but structurally varied | Oct 09 01:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | latin is a common root, but who speaks pure latin these days? | Oct 09 01:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know Tim from techBytes could | Oct 09 01:40 |
| activelow | latin isn't a common root | Oct 09 01:41 |
| activelow | german is | Oct 09 01:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also have a friend that can, but because some schools teach that | Oct 09 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | > Proto-Germanic eventually developed from pre-Proto-Germanic into three Germanic branches during the fifth century BC to fifth century A | Oct 09 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | So during the Bible development German and English were both in the Proto-Germanic stage. | Oct 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the old bible is ramic iirc | Oct 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | *aramic | Oct 09 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | Semitic languages + Ancient Greek. | Oct 09 01:43 |
| activelow | my hypothesis: rune script is older than greek/latin script; rune script is the common ancestry which was carried north and appeared there later | Oct 09 01:43 |
| activelow | because northward settlemend during "late bronce age collapse" and persian raids prolonged centuries, and norther regions retained an *older* script although it appeared later | Oct 09 01:44 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Maybe K&R C is actually newer than C89. | Oct 09 01:45 |
| activelow | in hebrew it is Aleph, in German it is Alles (fraktur script f and s look similar) | Oct 09 01:45 |
| XRevan86 | who's to say which way of declaring procedures is newer? equally likely. | Oct 09 01:45 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe prototypes are older but just resurfaced later. | Oct 09 01:46 |
| activelow | XRevan86: Negau Helmet | Oct 09 01:46 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: And? | Oct 09 01:47 |
| activelow | evidence | Oct 09 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Of the Etruscan alphabet? | Oct 09 01:49 |
| techrights-news | #ProprietarySoftware and #LinuxFoundation • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156582 #TuxMachines | Oct 09 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Oct 09 01:49 | |
| activelow | XRevan86: runes | Oct 09 01:49 |
| activelow | and "Celts" aren't people, it is the german word Zelt (tent); "Gauls" (french) aren't a tribe either, a Gaul is a male horse (german) | Oct 09 01:52 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Prove to me it's not the Etruscan alphabet. | Oct 09 01:52 |
| XRevan86 | but a sudden anachronistic example of a runic alphabet | Oct 09 01:52 |
| activelow | Saxons are not a tribe either, a Sach/x/ck is the german word for bag - all this is bronce age vocabulary, retained in german language with their original meaning, not french or latin or english | Oct 09 01:53 |
| techrights-news | #Mozilla and #Programming Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156583 #www #TuxMachines | Oct 09 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 01:53 | |
| XRevan86 | Ukraine is not a country either, the word is a Slavic word for a corner, that totally invalidates everything. | Oct 09 01:54 |
| techrights-news | #Hackable #Hardware With Linux, #Arduino Etc. • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156584 #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hackable Hardware With Linux, Arduino Etc. | Tux Machines | Oct 09 01:54 | |
| XRevan86 | (that is occasionally used as a real argument) | Oct 09 01:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, ukraine is a word? | Oct 09 01:54 |
| XRevan86 | Okraina is | Oct 09 01:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | so crimeas is the Okraina of Okraina :-D | Oct 09 01:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Crimea | Oct 09 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | give it a bit of ukañye, and suddenly it's Ukraina | Oct 09 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | (like in yabloko → yabluko) | Oct 09 01:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: a large set of island in southeast asia is called after a spanish king | Oct 09 01:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | so make Spain Great Again | Oct 09 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, the logic is that it's Outer Lands of… something. | Oct 09 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: when I hear Russians saying it, well, it's ooohk, raaaa, yina | Oct 09 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: outer land of EU | Oct 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | corner of EU | Oct 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks,Putin | Oct 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | for clarifying it's part of the EU ;-) | Oct 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Belarusia nxt | Oct 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the Bel in Belarus? That's BELGIUm | Oct 09 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | Bel- is for White | Oct 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Brussels .. checkmate | Oct 09 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | White-o-Rus' | Oct 09 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | or rather, White-a-Rus', because of akañye reflected in spelling | Oct 09 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "greater" Russia | Oct 09 01:58 |
| XRevan86 | ukañye is o→u, akañye is o→a :) | Oct 09 01:58 |
| activelow | "prussia" | Oct 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | Romaia, Bulgaria, Hungaria | Oct 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | Russia obviously | Oct 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | all nations with "ia" | Oct 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | Alimania | Oct 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamannia | Oct 09 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alamannia - Wikipedia | Oct 09 02:00 | |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, I don't get why activelow brought up all this naming stuff. Should I double-check that? | Oct 09 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | he reads up a lot on hiostory | Oct 09 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | old literature | Oct 09 02:01 |
| activelow | sometimes i do | Oct 09 02:01 |
| techrights-news | #Ubuntu: Kubernetes With MAAS and Snaps • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156585 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Kubernetes With MAAS and Snaps | Tux Machines | Oct 09 02:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: better thann sscrolling up and down in FB | Oct 09 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you might actualyl learn something valuable | Oct 09 02:01 |
| XRevan86 | Well, I know that activelow's interpretation of "Celt" is totally wrong. | Oct 09 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "mainstream" (schools, TV, etc.) teach stuff selectively | Oct 09 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | Because the word "Celt" is at its root, surprisingly, a Celtic word. | Oct 09 02:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the history here is hard to learn | Oct 09 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of many overlaps | Oct 09 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | wales, scotland, ireland | Oct 09 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get naturalised I'd likely need to memorise the "official" stoprie | Oct 09 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | *stories | Oct 09 02:03 |
| activelow | "German" is a misnomer too, it is transcribed errornously, it is Heer-Mann (military man), a designation applied by foreignors | Oct 09 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Please, stop! | Oct 09 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | hermann is a surname | Oct 09 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: The bloody word "German" is of Latin origin, so please stop. | Oct 09 02:05 |
| XRevan86 | And back then the word had /a/ for a vowel. | Oct 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | reeks of "alternative facts" to me | Oct 09 02:07 |
| XRevan86 | I mean "Heer". | Oct 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the ones you find in scopes | Oct 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then go, ahhh..., it was only a joke | Oct 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | *snopes | Oct 09 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes, activelow is an extreme case of a folk linguist. Or how Russians call them, a lingua-freak. | Oct 09 02:08 |
| activelow | "Herr" is the Lord, and "Heer" is the army | Oct 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I think scientes was digging deep also | Oct 09 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, at least he had a point. | Oct 09 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | He dug deep, but it was too deep for me to refute :) | Oct 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | is he on 'liber'-a? | Oct 09 02:09 |
| XRevan86 | activelow's statements are on a level like "the Linux codebase has not a single "if" in it" | Oct 09 02:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes. | Oct 09 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you ever get in touch, let him know where we are | Oct 09 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | he has been here for well over a decade | Oct 09 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | Very easy to disprove, but which also sounds false off the start. | Oct 09 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | he introduced me to Liz Warren around 2009 | Oct 09 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | or more like "Etruskan actually means This is Russian, an evidence of BC Russians" | Oct 09 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | or "there's Cyrillic writing on the Sun" | Oct 09 02:12 |
| *XRevan86 is so unimaginative he uses real statements for this freak-linguistic examples. | Oct 09 02:13 | |
| techrights-news | Links 9/10/2021: Wine 6.19 and #Istio 1.9.9 • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/08/istio-1-9-9/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/08/istio-1-9-9/ | Oct 09 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/10/2021: Wine 6.19 and Istio 1.9.9 | Techrights | Oct 09 02:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | first time I hear that term | Oct 09 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I interpret as the literary equivalent of seeing shapes and symbols where none are applicable | Oct 09 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | Etruskan==This is Russian is from Zadornov, Sun Cyrillic is from Chudinov. | Oct 09 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | like those who dissect logos for shapes and words for phenetics that are purely coincidental | Oct 09 02:15 |
| XRevan86 | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Чудинов,_Валерий_Алексеевич no English article, bummer. | Oct 09 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wikipedia.org | Чудинов, Валерий Алексеевич — Википедия | Oct 09 02:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, I loathe that form of thinking because it's weak evidence | Oct 09 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a path too k00ky territory | Oct 09 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, imagine us anallysing EPO logo | Oct 09 02:15 |
| XRevan86 | https://lurkmore.so/images/d/db/Svetamir4.jpg he was doing this kind of stuff | Oct 09 02:16 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 lurkmore.so is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 02:16 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lurkmore.so/images/d/db/Svetamir4.jpg | Oct 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | to find rounds and pyramids and things or dissecting the words in EPO to find things that just sound connected | Oct 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR posted a meme the other day | Oct 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc= something like obama's name having 19 letters in it | Oct 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence "=COVID-19" | Oct 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the case of words, you can do revisionist dissection of them | Oct 09 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and on the surface it stands | Oct 09 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but post-hoc | Oct 09 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of place names like that | Oct 09 02:17 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: the name had 18 letters in it, though | Oct 09 02:17 |
| MinceR | whoever wrote that sign couldn't even add up 3 numbers correctly | Oct 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | you try to make it sound like a place name stands for some words that were not at all connected to the original name | Oct 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the uk it's easy to do | Oct 09 02:18 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▇▆▇▄▆▅▆▅▆▆▃▄▅▂▆▅▃▅▅▅▅▅▄▃▅▃▅▅▆▃▁ avg(k/sec) 25.00 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂█▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂█▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 35.70▕ swarm size (avg): 258.19 ⟲ | Oct 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | a friend of mine misled his young nephew | Oct 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | liver-pool | Oct 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | man-chester | Oct 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of wordplay possible here | Oct 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: yes, maybe paid to act dumb | Oct 09 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the photograph | Oct 09 02:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Brave to share these examples around activelow :) | Oct 09 02:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But since they aren't related to East Germany, it might be okay :). | Oct 09 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I find it almost unfasthomable someone thought that sign made any sense | Oct 09 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | even east germany as a concept is BS | Oct 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's one country divided after its fall | Oct 09 02:20 |
| activelow | no | Oct 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the countries to the east and west | Oct 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | like drawn up borders near syria | Oct 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | which the french and english drew up | Oct 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | some in noth africa | Oct 09 02:20 |
| activelow | predating 1945 eastern prussia was multi-national, and german-speakers were expelled and murdered, millions of them | Oct 09 02:20 |
| activelow | on top of those 7million soldiers, another few million civilians were murdered | Oct 09 02:21 |
| activelow | which doesn't account for the "red terror" before ww2 | Oct 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but was there an "east germeny"? | Oct 09 02:21 |
| activelow | ukraine, poland, romania | Oct 09 02:21 |
| activelow | expelled and murdered everywhere | Oct 09 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "one country" – countries are not that strong a concept, and German unity is a recent enough concept. | Oct 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz | "1949–1990" | Oct 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany | Oct 09 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | East Germany - Wikipedia | Oct 09 02:22 | |
| activelow | and after 1990 it is the final stroke | Oct 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like saying East England | Oct 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | that just refers to "where" inside the UK | Oct 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's no "East England" per se | Oct 09 02:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But on top of that, yes, correct. | Oct 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | hmmm... east germany was a lot smaller than I thought | Oct 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought Germany had been annxed about 50-50 territory-wise | Oct 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | west germany was twice as big | Oct 09 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was, but there's a catch. | Oct 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they catch you | Oct 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | yhey kill you | Oct 09 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Deutschland_Besatzungszonen_8_Jun_1947_-_22_Apr_1949.svg | Oct 09 02:24 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 wikimedia.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 02:24 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Deutschland_Besatzungszonen_8_Jun_1947_-_22_Apr_1949.svg | Oct 09 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This is how Germany was *actually* divided. | Oct 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany#/media/File:Soviet_Sector_Germany.png | Oct 09 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | East Germany - Wikipedia | Oct 09 02:25 | |
| XRevan86 | France got a pie, which is an amazing feat of Western Ally diplomacy :) | Oct 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | back then the "vakias" were together | Oct 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | cologne | Oct 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | still frenchy | Oct 09 02:26 |
| XRevan86 | > The four zones were agreed by the United States, United Kingdom and Soviet Union at the February 1945 Yalta Conference, setting aside an earlier division into three zones (excluding France) proposed by the September 1944 London Protocol. | Oct 09 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's mostly the US keeping a share of those pie | Oct 09 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | by proxy | Oct 09 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like lots of ilitary bases in italy and germany | Oct 09 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | still | Oct 09 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it was divided into four, like japan.. | Oct 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | except witihout it being large islands | Oct 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Hokkaido, Honshu, Shikoku, and Kyushu | Oct 09 02:29 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, the French zone is taken from the initially agreed UK and US zones. | Oct 09 02:29 |
| XRevan86 | That explains why East Germany was 1/2 of West Germany and not 1/3 | Oct 09 02:30 |
| techrights-news | " #gpg2 sucks" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-081021.html#tOct%2008%2013:52:54 | Oct 09 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 08, 2021 | Oct 09 02:32 | |
| leah | https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=Cxqca4RQd_M | Oct 09 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | If Google Was A Guy (Full Series) - Invidious | Oct 09 02:33 | |
| leah | it gets better and better | Oct 09 02:33 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Sore it :) | Oct 09 02:33 |
| MinceR | more pictures of spaghetti! more pictures of spaghetti! | Oct 09 02:34 |
| XRevan86 | saw→sore before another word that starts with a vowel is a British thing. | Oct 09 02:34 |
| techrights-news | #gop as a harvbour or shelter to nutty politicians http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-081021.html#tOct%2008%2002:52:45 | Oct 09 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 08, 2021 | Oct 09 02:34 | |
| DaemonFC | https://reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406569483284 | Oct 09 02:35 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 reddithelp.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reddithelp.com | How does disruptive comment collapsing work? – Reddit Help | Oct 09 02:35 | |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406569483284 | Oct 09 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | How does disruptive comment collapsing work? – Reddit Help | Oct 09 02:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Reddit is adding more censorship/ | Oct 09 02:35 |
| leah | my favourite is the old man who asks for "google.com website" | Oct 09 02:35 |
| techrights-news | Adoption of #microsoft #windows #vista Service Pack '11' already failing http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-081021.html | Oct 09 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 08, 2021 | Oct 09 02:36 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: not just reddit | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | what is it this time? | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: I dumped thelayoff.com | Oct 09 02:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they censor too muc | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they censored before, but now they do it in bulk | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's disguising | Oct 09 02:37 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techpol + social irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-081021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-081021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-081021.txt | Oct 09 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 08, 2021 | Oct 09 02:37 | |
| schestowitz-TR | one moment you see a post, then it is gone | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot support a site like that | Oct 09 02:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | shaping public opinion by silencing some people | Oct 09 02:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on the poltiics and beliefs of the site's moderators | Oct 09 02:38 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techrights irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-081021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-081021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-081021.txt | Oct 09 02:38 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Haven't noticed you doing it (or not doing it, didn't catch a suitable condition in the bit I've listened to), but regardless your pronunciation is very clearly UK :) | Oct 09 02:39 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ boycottnovell irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-081021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-081021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-081021.txt | Oct 09 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 08, 2021 | Oct 09 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techbytes irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-081021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-081021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-081021.txt | Oct 09 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 08, 2021 | Oct 09 02:40 | |
| XRevan86 | leah: Hmm, "momths", I don't know if that's strictly a British thing, but I've only heard British people mispronounce "months" like that. | Oct 09 02:41 |
| schestowitz | "fs" | Oct 09 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | "mispronounce" is a strong word, I know. | Oct 09 02:41 |
| schestowitz | mOnfffs | Oct 09 02:41 |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-08.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-08.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Oct 09 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: more swallowing | Oct 09 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That is a Cockney trait what ye mention, but I point out the "m" instead of "n". | Oct 09 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | people here swallow words a lo | Oct 09 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | *lot | Oct 09 02:42 |
| leah | "do a barrel roll" | Oct 09 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | US south slows it down and sings it | Oct 09 02:42 |
| leah | that one had me in stitches | Oct 09 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | leah: I do a full stop after "barrel", I'm not sure if that sounds native or not. | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me what matter is clarify | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just to locals | Oct 09 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | When I do full stops I feel like I sound Russian. | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | "whooo?" | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | "whaaaaa?" | Oct 09 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | "may" (mate) | Oct 09 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to people outside the country it makes no sense, and maybe that's partly the intention | Oct 09 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | foooo | Oct 09 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | leah: The bit with "momths" is 7:57 | Oct 09 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | in memeland "fuuuuuu" is a joke | Oct 09 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | here some people still pronnounce it like this | Oct 09 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | no c or k or ck at all | Oct 09 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | just "fo" | Oct 09 02:45 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/nYPRgq6.mp4 | Oct 09 02:45 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 imgur.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 02:45 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/nYPRgq6.mp4 | Oct 09 02:45 |
| leah | "facebook" | Oct 09 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: I remember that | Oct 09 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | leah: The t's are very British: they go from a very clear "t" to a kind of swallowed "t", I'm not sure what that's called. | Oct 09 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | bri-hish | Oct 09 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | Americans cheat the t's but they do it differently (flap t). | Oct 09 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | bwihish | Oct 09 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you can drop the sh too | Oct 09 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | bwihi person | Oct 09 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | pretty? | Oct 09 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | no mai (mate) | Oct 09 02:47 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, leah would say "bri/t/ish", but in "boot" it would be something else. | Oct 09 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | buuwww | Oct 09 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | "we would basically want to contax the FSF again" | Oct 09 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: you're supposed to say "boycott gnu" AFTER getting an FSF award :-) | Oct 09 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | not before | Oct 09 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the tradition | Oct 09 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | kuhn, deb, de icaza, de raadt | Oct 09 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | i forgot mjg59_ | Oct 09 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the fake freedom guy | Oct 09 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | white is the new black | Oct 09 02:50 |
| XRevan86 | 8:30 – here "boot" is practically "booʔ" | Oct 09 02:51 |
| techrights-news | "No matter your ultimate lean on politics, you have to admit it’s pretty strange to sit with the knowledge that OAN, a conservative news network, was effectively funded by AT&T, right?" https://tedium.co/2021/10/08/att-facebook-antitrust-comparison/ | Oct 09 02:51 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 tedium.co is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Would a Facebook Breakup Look Like AT&T’s Breakup? | Oct 09 02:51 | |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2021/10/08/att-facebook-antitrust-comparison/ | Oct 09 02:51 |
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| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I always utter the Ts | Oct 09 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | > to a kind of swallowed "t", I'm not sure what that's called. | Oct 09 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | When I heard it at 8:30, I realised it's a full-on glottal stop. | Oct 09 02:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | swallowing limits your audience | Oct 09 02:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | just like doing a talk in germany does... | Oct 09 02:53 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Oct 09 02:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | she spoke in tongues | Oct 09 02:53 |
| schestowitz | Laura Tucker spamming agin https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/apple-mac-mini-with-m1/ | Oct 09 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Save $100 on a 2020 Apple Mac Mini with M1 Chip - Make Tech Easier | Oct 09 02:54 | |
| schestowitz | this time for crApple | Oct 09 02:54 |
| techrights-news | "I've promised a Linux From Scratch series for a very long time and I've kept putting it off but we're finally here and I'm finally ready to hate my life." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mW64pOTP8UU #gnu #linux | Oct 09 02:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 【Linux From Scratch】I'm Now A Distro Maintainer - Invidious | Oct 09 02:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Whitney joined TLAV to discuss her recent article on Moderna, as well as our previous discussion around your anonymity and privacy, and how these concepts are on the way out in lieu of a “reimagining” of our world where these concepts are a burden on the system; a system in which “you own nothing and you have never been happier” – or so we are aggressively told – known as The Great Reset. " | Oct 09 02:55 |
| schestowitz | https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/press/tlav-facebook-whistleblower-ending-anonymity-modernas-hail-mary/ | Oct 09 02:55 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 unlimitedhangout.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 02:55 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/press/tlav-facebook-whistleblower-ending-anonymity-modernas-hail-mary/ | Oct 09 02:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unlimitedhangout.com | TLAV- Facebook "Whistleblower", Ending Anonymity & Moderna's Hail Mary | Oct 09 02:55 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Opened a random video and got an example :) | Oct 09 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | http://techrights.org/videos/nl-epo-immunity-role.webm 7:06 | Oct 09 02:55 |
| leah | well, that video was a trip. it really made my day. i only just found it today | Oct 09 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Here ye say the word "sitting" twice, listen carefully to the second time ye say it. | Oct 09 02:55 |
| leah | schestowitz: i don't care about awards | Oct 09 02:56 |
| leah | i don't need permission to feel accomplishment | Oct 09 02:56 |
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| leah | i just need to accomplish my dreams, and walk away with all the money | Oct 09 02:56 |
| leah | :P | Oct 09 02:56 |
| leah | most of the people who get that award don't deserve it or are just meh | Oct 09 02:57 |
| activelow | awards are a burden | Oct 09 02:57 |
| leah | alyssa rosenzweig is a recent rare exception. she does amazing work and got the fsf free software award this year. this is the founder of the Panfrost project | Oct 09 02:57 |
| leah | but then | Oct 09 02:57 |
| leah | on the dark side of that | Oct 09 02:57 |
| leah | mjg59_ got the award once | Oct 09 02:57 |
| leah | :P | Oct 09 02:57 |
| leah | i don't think people need an award. an award is a kick of dopamine that lasts very little time | Oct 09 02:58 |
| leah | the only thing you need to do is to continue doing what you want to do, every day, and don't worry about everyone else. if others find you useful, then you are useful, but you're not doing it for them | Oct 09 02:58 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz, leah: Anyway, both of you have clear English that it's easy to understand. | Oct 09 02:58 |
| XRevan86 | * that is | Oct 09 02:58 |
| leah | both? | Oct 09 02:58 |
| leah | who is the other besides me? | Oct 09 02:58 |
| XRevan86 | leah: schestowitz also went on a journey of pronunciation introspection :) | Oct 09 02:59 |
| leah | schestowitz: anyway, i know the value of my work. i don't need an "award" to tell me i'm doing good work | Oct 09 02:59 |
| leah | there was a time in my life where i tried to live up to other people's expectations. it didn't go so well. i know i'm doing good work when i'm happy on a personal level | Oct 09 02:59 |
| MinceR | 09 035407 <~schestowitz> Laura Tucker spamming agin https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/apple-mac-mini-with-m1/ | Oct 09 03:00 |
| MinceR | save even more by not buying it | Oct 09 03:00 |
| leah | schestowitz: and i also abandoned my gnu boycott in 2017, and am currently trying to get libreboot back into gnu | Oct 09 03:00 |
| leah | have been trying for years | Oct 09 03:00 |
| leah | my relations with fsf these days are great | Oct 09 03:01 |
| activelow | leah: what do you think of u-boot loader? | Oct 09 03:01 |
| leah | i talk to individual staff and rms regularly | Oct 09 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz is easier to confuse for a non-British accent bearer, because Northern English accents are not as recognisable as they don't have that many traits shared with RP. | Oct 09 03:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156505#comment-31285 | Oct 09 03:01 |
| activelow | to my knowledge core/libreboot target IBM Wintel PC mostly - and i have given up on them, not because of libreboot, because of IBM Wintel PC | Oct 09 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | Except that schestowitz used to drop H's, but in this video I'm listening to he doesn't do that. | Oct 09 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Is that an active effort? | Oct 09 03:02 |
| leah | schestowitz: there's a graphic i want to share with you, from xkcd, to illustrate what i'm talking about | Oct 09 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | leah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-glottalization found an aricle | Oct 09 03:03 |
| leah | schestowitz: https://xkcd.com/2347/ | Oct 09 03:04 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 xkcd.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 03:04 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2347/ | Oct 09 03:04 |
| leah | schestowitz: this perfectly illustrates what i mean | Oct 09 03:04 |
| leah | the 2003 guy doesn't get an award | Oct 09 03:04 |
| activelow | same sad story with Guix, which i found recently it maintains toolchain bootstrapping with x86 assembly; it's sad because of x86, not guix itself | Oct 09 03:04 |
| leah | the 2003 person in that illustration is just doing their job, and doing it happily | Oct 09 03:04 |
| leah | that's how everyone should be. don't wait for someone to tell you you did good. just keep doing good, and keep trying to be better, while expecting nothing in return | Oct 09 03:05 |
| *XRevan86 is done analysing speech :). | Oct 09 03:05 | |
| leah | the media whores like garret are the ones that get all the awards, while the rest of us do actual fucking work all day :P | Oct 09 03:05 |
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| leah | i'm more like the 2003 person. in fact, i look up to that 2003 person. the random person from nebraska thanklessly maintaining a critical project since 2003 | Oct 09 03:07 |
| leah | that's how everyone should act. just do their jobs | Oct 09 03:07 |
| *XRevan86 writes down: leah looks up to Ariadne. | Oct 09 03:08 | |
| leah | if you have more than 10,000 twitter followers, you're probably not interesting | Oct 09 03:09 |
| XRevan86 | "we also haf" (12:49)– okay, one more: I noticed that after British speakers. | Oct 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: around? | Oct 09 03:12 |
| activelow | i am not aware of any other distro than GNU/Guix who bootstrap gcc toolchain from assembly (except some 8/16bit microcontroller fringe elsewhere) | Oct 09 03:13 |
| activelow | GNU chose x86 for this, similar to core/libreboot focus on that platform | Oct 09 03:14 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 113506 total • Total pages: 37659 • Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 4 months 0 days ago | Oct 09 03:14 |
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| DaemonFC | Vivaldi 4.3 is out. | Oct 09 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | Still no ads in the address bar. B-) | Oct 09 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla will be implementing those soon. | Oct 09 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | Debian needs to replace Firefox with something else or figure out some way of disabling this. | Oct 09 03:19 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Around the 14 minute mark ye consistently started saying "boots" for "boot", and I don't know what to attribute that to. | Oct 09 03:19 |
| MinceR | why would debian care? | Oct 09 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | Or just drop the Mozilla branding and disable this if they have to. Go back to Iceweasel. | Oct 09 03:19 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #MeteBalci ☞ Hello IPv6: a minimal tutorial for IPv4 users https://metebalci.com/blog/hello-ipv6/ | Oct 09 03:20 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 metebalci.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 03:20 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://metebalci.com/blog/hello-ipv6/ | Oct 09 03:20 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmRVquEDfjUxjZohz6NpGuYae1hJY5sYhcGTzygC15t1qe | Oct 09 03:20 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Undeadly #BSD #OpenBSD ☞ Catchup 2021-10-08 http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20211008075752 | Oct 09 03:21 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Chromium ☞ #GoogleReader is still defunct, but now you can ‘follow’ RSS feeds in Chrome on Android https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/8/22716813/google-chrome-follow-button-rss-reader | Oct 09 03:21 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TechRepublic #Programming ☞ Open source developers are unique: Tips for working with and managing community-centric dev teams https://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-developers-are-unique-tips-for-working-with-and-managing-community-centric-dev-teams/ | Oct 09 03:22 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 techrepublic.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 03:22 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-developers-are-unique-tips-for-working-with-and-managing-community-centric-dev-teams/ | Oct 09 03:22 |
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| activelow | the freedom gap between 8/16bit GPL realm and 32bit one is huge | Oct 09 03:28 |
| activelow | in the 8/16bit realm, the OS itself fully implements hardware init "basic i/o system"; written in asm | Oct 09 03:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: agree with everything you said about that award | Oct 09 03:30 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/03/20/bradley-kuhn-fsf-award/ | Oct 09 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Does the FSF Keep Rewarding People Who Work Against the FSF’s Founder? | Techrights | Oct 09 03:30 | |
| schestowitz | also related, but older (about dumb awards) | Oct 09 03:30 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/ | Oct 09 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Giving Awards to Raytheon Won’t Help Red Hat’s Image | Techrights | Oct 09 03:30 | |
| schestowitz | they can become a liability | Oct 09 03:31 |
| activelow | i suspect the 32bit evolution of *nix was burried below the remains of the at&t and unix wars | Oct 09 03:31 |
| schestowitz | EPO example: http://techrights.org/2018/05/04/theranos-epo-fraud/ | Oct 09 03:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Elizabeth Holmes Charged With “Massive Fraud” and Team Battistelli Rushes to Distance Itself From Her | Techrights | Oct 09 03:31 | |
| schestowitz | EFF example: http://techrights.org/2019/08/17/staying-focused/ | Oct 09 03:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Electronic Frontier Foundation Makes a Mistake by Giving Award to Microsoft Surveillance Person | Techrights | Oct 09 03:31 | |
| schestowitz | newer EPO example (part 1 of 3) http://techrights.org/2018/05/10/the-epo-inventor-award-scam/ | Oct 09 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s ‘Inventor Award’ Scam: Part I | Techrights | Oct 09 03:32 | |
| XRevan86 | leah: It fits the palatalisation sound change somewhat, but that's iffy. "boot"→"boots" is an interesting sound shift. | Oct 09 03:32 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: Boots and Cats - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Nni0rTLg5B8 | Oct 09 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Boots and Cats - Invidious | Oct 09 03:33 | |
| schestowitz | via MinceR (old) | Oct 09 03:33 |
| schestowitz | boot and boots | Oct 09 03:33 |
| schestowitz | English (EN) accent | Oct 09 03:33 |
| XRevan86 | (01:48:33) XRevan86: "we would basically want to contax the FSF again" | Oct 09 03:34 |
| XRevan86 | There's that slight s-ness. | Oct 09 03:34 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: heh | Oct 09 03:35 |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Macquarie Health Corporation hit by Windows Hive ransomware https://itwire.com/security/macquarie-health-corporation-hit-by-windows-hive-ransomware.html | Oct 09 03:41 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 itwire.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 03:41 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/macquarie-health-corporation-hit-by-windows-hive-ransomware.html | Oct 09 03:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Macquarie Health Corporation hit by Windows Hive ransomware | Oct 09 03:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | iTWire - Macquarie Health Corporation hit by Windows Hive ransomware | Oct 09 03:41 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Democrats urge federal agencies to address use of cryptocurrencies for ransomware payments https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/575989-democrats-urge-federal-agencies-to-address-use-of-cryptocurrencies-for | Oct 09 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Democrats urge federal agencies to address use of cryptocurrencies for ransomware payments | TheHill | Oct 09 03:42 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #HotHardware #ProprietaryCrap #Apple ☞ Apple's M1-Powered Macs Will Soon Finally Run Linux Natively But There's A Catch https://hothardware.com/news/linux-on-apple-m1-reports-progress-in-september | Oct 09 03:42 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 hothardware.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 03:42 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hothardware.com/news/linux-on-apple-m1-reports-progress-in-september | Oct 09 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's M1-Powered Macs Will Soon Finally Run Linux Natively But There's A Catch | HotHardware | Oct 09 03:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://hothardware.com/news/linux-on-apple-m1-reports-progress-in-september ) | Oct 09 03:42 | |
| XRevan86 | leah: The best way to describe it I can think of is T-affricatisation | Oct 09 03:42 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #NBC #Energy ☞ #Covid19 is at the center of world’s energy crunch, but a cascade of problems is fueling it https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/covid-center-world-energy-crunch-cascade-problems-fuel-rcna2688 "Not only has Covid-19 killed more than 4.5 million people, it saw global energy consumption shrink by 4.5 percent last year" | Oct 09 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Covid at the center of world energy crunch, but cascade of problems fuel it | Oct 09 03:52 | |
| XRevan86 | * T-affrication | Oct 09 03:56 |
| XRevan86 | > though technically i'm a northerner, but i've lived in essex since i was a kid | Oct 09 04:00 |
| XRevan86 | leah: By any chance… not from Liverpool? | Oct 09 04:00 |
| XRevan86 | Because I cannot find this happening in English anywhere but in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouse | Oct 09 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Scouse - Wikipedia | Oct 09 04:01 | |
| XRevan86 | It's a form of opening lenition. | Oct 09 04:02 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, October 08, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Oct 09 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Oct 09 04:08 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Oct 09 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Oct 09 04:08 | |
| XRevan86 | I did learn technical things from the leah's presentation also, I thought Libreboot is a fork of coreboot akin to Linux-libre but it's more of a toolchain. | Oct 09 04:15 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▂▅▆▇▄▇▆▅▅▅▆▅▆▂▅▄▅▅▃▄▃▅▆▄▄▆▄▃▅▄▇▁ avg(k/sec) 23.90 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.96▕ swarm size (avg): 258.20 ⟲ | Oct 09 04:18 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #BBC #Censorship ☞ Hong Kong: University orders Tiananmen statue's removal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58847650 | Oct 09 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Hong Kong: University orders Tiananmen statue's removal - BBC News | Oct 09 04:21 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TimesHigherEducation #Censorship ☞ University of Hong Kong wants Tiananmen ‘Pillar of Shame’ gone https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/university-hong-kong-wants-tiananmen-pillar-shame-gone | Oct 09 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | University of Hong Kong wants Tiananmen ‘Pillar of Shame’ gone | Times Higher Education (THE) | Oct 09 04:24 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Monopolies ☞ #Apple Seeks to Delay Ruling Loosening Its Grip on App Store https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-08/apple-to-appeal-epic-ruling-loosening-its-grip-on-app-store | Oct 09 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Oct 09 04:26 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Monopolies ☞ #Apple is appealing the #EpicGames ruling it originally called a ‘resounding victory’ https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/8/22717271/apple-appeals-epic-games-ruling-anti-steering | Oct 09 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apple is appealing the Epic Games ruling it originally called a ‘resounding victory’ - The Verge | Oct 09 04:26 | |
| leah | XRevan86: yeah i regard it as a coreboot distro | Oct 09 04:27 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Virtual Workshop Tuesday: EFF’s #MitchStoltz Will Discuss #FreeSoftware Movement On Panel Examining Ethics and Open Source Software Licensing https://www.eff.org/press/releases/virtual-workshop-tuesday-effs-mitch-stoltz-will-discuss-free-software-movement-panel the movement you attack: http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ | Oct 09 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Virtual Workshop Tuesday: EFF’s Mitch Stoltz Will Discuss Free Software Movement On Panel Examining Ethics and Open Source Software Licensing | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 09 04:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights | Oct 09 04:27 | |
| leah | distro in the same way that debian is a gnu+linux distro | Oct 09 04:27 |
| leah | XRevan86: and no, not liverpool. in fact, i've never set foot there | Oct 09 04:27 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #FAIR #wikileaks ☞ Deathly Silence: Journalists Who Mocked #Assange Have Nothing to Say About CIA Plans to Kill Him https://fair.org/home/deathly-silence-journalists-who-mocked-assange-have-nothing-to-say-about-cia-plans-to-kill-him/ | Oct 09 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Deathly Silence: Journalists Who Mocked Assange Have Nothing to Say About CIA Plans to Kill Him - FAIR | Oct 09 04:30 | |
| XRevan86 | leah: I've got nothing then :). It's not known for Essex, maybe it's just your personal pronunciation trait. | Oct 09 04:30 |
| techrights-news | iophk: COVID-19 was not the first threat; nations' reaction to Microsoft already shows that they won't band together to stave off an external malevolent force; https://futurism.com/the-byte/three-body-problem-author-humankind-unite-hostile-aliens | Oct 09 04:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | “Three-Body Problem” Author No Longer Sure Humankind Would Unite Against Hostile Aliens | Oct 09 04:32 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | “Three-Body Problem” Author No Longer Sure Humankind Would Unite Against Hostile Aliens | Oct 09 04:32 | |
| activelow | what is the difference to coreboot, besides deleteing .git folders, firmware, and config? | Oct 09 04:32 |
| activelow | are any changes from libreboot merged into coreboot? | Oct 09 04:33 |
| XRevan86 | leah and I: Libreboot is not a fork of coreboot | Oct 09 04:33 |
| XRevan86 | Meanwhile, activelow: Is Libreboot fork changes being upstreamed? | Oct 09 04:34 |
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| activelow | don't know, last time i hacked some amd agesa parts i remained on an older coreboot branch, and wasn't happy with the result finally. | Oct 09 04:36 |
| activelow | the build system of coreboot was maintained sufficiently | Oct 09 04:37 |
| activelow | am3 kept crashing, and bricking cpus (although below their ratings, probably some hiddon option for any voltage regulator)... | Oct 09 04:38 |
| activelow | could rant day and night about this | Oct 09 04:38 |
| activelow | thousands of pages, verfied and checked everything - crash, reboot, another crash once or twice, cpu dead | Oct 09 04:39 |
| activelow | dumped registers, debugged the spaghetti code and ifdef cascades... i gave up | Oct 09 04:40 |
| activelow | btw. documentation of libreboot, almost forgot, it's not trivial, to have that | Oct 09 04:41 |
| activelow | leah: in comparison u-boot loader was relatively sane, once DRAM init was liberated and some blob fully replaced with an opensource ATF | Oct 09 04:43 |
| activelow | i'll not look back to any x86 for this reason alone | Oct 09 04:43 |
| leah | oh, yeah uboot is great | Oct 09 04:45 |
| leah | XRevan86: i mask my voice in talks | Oct 09 04:47 |
| leah | and also on the phone. for some reason i also do it when talking to americans | Oct 09 04:47 |
| leah | if i didn't do that, you wouldn't be able to understand me | Oct 09 04:47 |
| leah | anyway | Oct 09 04:49 |
| leah | there's no reason libreboot has to only integrate coreboot | Oct 09 04:49 |
| leah | and in the future, coreboot might not even be the main focus | Oct 09 04:49 |
| activelow | great | Oct 09 04:49 |
| leah | it is a boot firmware distribution | Oct 09 04:49 |
| leah | it is not intended to be an upstream project either | Oct 09 04:50 |
| leah | it's the debian of boot firmware | Oct 09 04:50 |
| activelow | i'll not touch any x86(64) with or without libreboot | Oct 09 04:52 |
| activelow | and, ironically, what i had seen with coreboot is one reason among others | Oct 09 04:53 |
| activelow | amd agesa in particular - no thanks, neither opensource nor closed source | Oct 09 04:53 |
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| activelow | seems progress was made with native graphics init on intel, cool | Oct 09 05:10 |
| leah | i'm trying to get a dedicated fibre connection | Oct 09 05:10 |
| activelow | the 200KiB mrc.bin is *huge*, as a reference a fuzixOS kernel fits into 8KiB; | Oct 09 05:10 |
| activelow | i'm trying to avoid to need any fibre connection | Oct 09 05:11 |
| activelow | anway, no way to know what the mrc.bin does; as another reference a cortex-m0 atf.bin is 200KiB in size too, and does various things besides dram init; it's not just some static data table in those 200KiB. | Oct 09 05:14 |
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| leah | schestowitz: that thing you said the other day about doing git over gemini is interesting. i've been meaning to ask you more about that | Oct 09 05:35 |
| leah | activelow: yeah x86 is a dead-end | Oct 09 05:35 |
| activelow | most ARM SoC are not free and open either, RISC-V isn't, concerning a fully free and open SoC including hardware description schematics | Oct 09 05:41 |
| activelow | and those free hardware SoC designs with sufficient performance almost always can only be deployed to Altera or Xilinx (proprietary hardware) | Oct 09 05:42 |
| activelow | z80 and similar with fuzixos is where i arrived at as on option, i couldn't fully review yet | Oct 09 05:42 |
| activelow | that's my grievance with FSF, they argue theirs was a distinct concern of "free software", which is a lie | Oct 09 05:45 |
| activelow | guix documents and implements some toolchain bootstrapping (gcc) from asm, for x86, and at that front it is dead end too | Oct 09 05:46 |
| activelow | even if a fully free mips32 SoC was deployed, at least 32bit, the toolchain bootstrapping remains an open question for this (see guix info pages what they did for x86) | Oct 09 05:48 |
| activelow | since FSF does endorse guix (with some very specific things included, the full distro isn't as interersting), i speculate the FSF does know, they are fully aware | Oct 09 05:53 |
| activelow | and, the guix info page, mentions gcc-2.95 as a release artifact to create from x86-asm, until today (if it wasn't updated elsewhere) | Oct 09 05:56 |
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| schestowitz-TR | leah: I'm back | Oct 09 06:58 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #FCC ☞ FCC's 'New' Robocall Plan Isn't Particularly New, Won't Seriously Reduce Robocalls https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211005/09214847700/fccs-new-robocall-plan-isnt-particularly-new-wont-seriously-reduce-robocalls.shtml | Oct 09 07:00 |
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| activelow | sorry, couldn't cool down, this insanity and lies is triggered psychosis | Oct 09 07:14 |
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| activelow | ok, this server got no individual user mode for this. it's just, whenever such insanity hits, this gets anyone sane off-track, mentally. | Oct 09 07:27 |
| activelow | this is what they want. | Oct 09 07:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | who? | Oct 09 07:29 |
| activelow | i think this court case is a political construct, it is proxied. it is a scam. | Oct 09 07:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, well... | Oct 09 07:30 |
| leah | activelow: the x86 bubble will burst | Oct 09 07:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | last month I came to the final conclusion contacting German politicians isn't worth the time | Oct 09 07:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | they won't get anything done | Oct 09 07:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | they work for lobbyists | Oct 09 07:30 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: further to our conversation about brexit, i decided on a whim to write a blog post about it. not a long one, because i always get bored and only write about 20% of what i want to write | Oct 09 07:31 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: anyway, here: https://vimuser.org/freetrade.html | Oct 09 07:31 |
| activelow | not at least the addresses do match, nor did the court follow my demand to clearly identify the legal entities, which is a basic principle, without which any case is void. | Oct 09 07:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vimuser.org | Leah Rowe's Sleepless Rants – Free trade | Oct 09 07:31 | |
| leah | it actually isn't brexit-related, but the subject is briefly mentioned in that article, and the article should hopefully explain to you my views | Oct 09 07:31 |
| *schestowitz-TR looks | Oct 09 07:32 | |
| leah | i wouldn't say i'm rightwing, but i do have libertarian views, and the EU sucks | Oct 09 07:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | Council of Ministers -- yes | Oct 09 07:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | zoobab talks a lot about these | Oct 09 07:33 |
| leah | it's the exact opposite of what i outline in that article | Oct 09 07:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | regarding repairs and hadrware changes, psydroid2 knows best | Oct 09 07:33 |
| leah | though lately i've been disgusted by our labour party | Oct 09 07:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | counterpoint though is, the british authoritires aren't the lesser evil | Oct 09 07:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're local, but not less evil | Oct 09 07:34 |
| leah | yeah they're just as power hungry as the EU | Oct 09 07:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | still power-hungry and controlled by the rich | Oct 09 07:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | even rich saudis who lob off women's heads in the streets | Oct 09 07:34 |
| leah | our conservative party could be so much better. as it currently stands, i wouldn't ever join it. they're evil, and power hungry | Oct 09 07:34 |
| leah | but there are people in it who i like | Oct 09 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are ways to limit or restrict their power | Oct 09 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | empowering media is one | Oct 09 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | anything bad they do needs to be exposed | Oct 09 07:35 |
| leah | Uk and EU both suck | Oct 09 07:35 |
| activelow | i feel it is mostly group-dynamics with them, political parties, which resembles psycho sectarian cults | Oct 09 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the consolidation of media had led the EPO bribe and blackmail the press | Oct 09 07:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | with very obvious evidence of crime, nobody in the press will cover that | Oct 09 07:35 |
| activelow | some labels applied, labor this, social that, eco, liberal whatnot, it is shallow marketing to appeal to different target audience only | Oct 09 07:36 |
| leah | i think the whole system in the UK needs to be torn down and re-built | Oct 09 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the oligachs don't let those things just happent | Oct 09 07:37 |
| activelow | here is the trick, for example, "liberal" free market and "socialist" do not contradict each other, it is a complement. free market proponents suck out cash at stock exchange, and socialists seek taxation of it, which depends on each other, and doesn't contradict as they argue. | Oct 09 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might FAKE it happening | Oct 09 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like remove another dictator to install another | Oct 09 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | as happened in the US this past January | Oct 09 07:37 |
| leah | government's only job is to efficiently provide public services (healthcare, schools etc) and to provide some kind of dispute mechanism for businesses | Oct 09 07:38 |
| leah | but it should get out of people's lives | Oct 09 07:38 |
| leah | the purpose of the state basically is to help people and provide the services they need, with good value for money | Oct 09 07:38 |
| leah | the one we have in the UK is overbearing. it has too much power | Oct 09 07:38 |
| leah | but the EU's is worse | Oct 09 07:39 |
| leah | now that we left the EU, we can start to reform the UK | Oct 09 07:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: the Tories are, in general, hostile to people like you | Oct 09 07:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | both the parties and the voters | Oct 09 07:39 |
| leah | yep | Oct 09 07:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | this isn't some identity politics partisanship | Oct 09 07:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are the facts | Oct 09 07:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | torygraph | Oct 09 07:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the magazine whose editor became our Pry Minister | Oct 09 07:39 |
| leah | but i've been analyzing my political views in recent years | Oct 09 07:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they incite | Oct 09 07:39 |
| leah | and i'm closer to the tories politically. but they are authoritarian, not libertarian. i have libertarian views | Oct 09 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they deflect from the oligarchy | Oct 09 07:40 |
| leah | i think all the parties in the UK need to be smashed | Oct 09 07:40 |
| leah | build new ones up | Oct 09 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead blaming gays, which isn't fashionable and P-C anymore, so they find another set of groups | Oct 09 07:40 |
| leah | that are closer to what peoples ideals are | Oct 09 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | those existed | Oct 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | media buried them | Oct 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | except maybe RT | Oct 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but RT has its rogue mission too | Oct 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | you don't want to appear on RT, ever | Oct 09 07:41 |
| leah | switzerland | Oct 09 07:42 |
| leah | switzerland's political system is very good, and much closer to what i want | Oct 09 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Oct 09 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember they didn't let women vote until like the 70s :/ | Oct 09 07:43 |
| leah | it's very decentralized, extremely democratic, but also highly stable and gives people exactly what they want | Oct 09 07:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is... weird | Oct 09 07:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also have compulsory "learn-howt-kill-people" service [sic] | Oct 09 07:43 |
| leah | the past is the past. focus on the present, and on the future | Oct 09 07:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll cover switzerland in techrights this week | Oct 09 07:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | today we focus on Luxembourg | Oct 09 07:44 |
| leah | nothing is perfect. note how i said: it's closer to what i want | Oct 09 07:44 |
| leah | i didn't say it's exactly what i want ;) | Oct 09 07:44 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: remember the harry potter sorting hat analogy that i made? | Oct 09 07:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Oct 09 07:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I remember potter something | Oct 09 07:46 |
| leah | when the hat tells harry that he'd do well in slitherin (analogous to our conservative party) | Oct 09 07:46 |
| leah | but harry goes with his heart and chooses griffindor (analagous to our labour party) | Oct 09 07:46 |
| leah | i'm like harry | Oct 09 07:46 |
| activelow | many males couldn't vote before either, introduction of a voting system had to begin somewhere somehow, without offending aristocrats too much | Oct 09 07:46 |
| leah | i'd probably be in the tory party if i wasn't trans | Oct 09 07:46 |
| activelow | modern voting system was introduced rather late, with all voters' voices recognised with equal weight | Oct 09 07:47 |
| leah | the legacy of "section 28" permanently puts me off. those same sorts of bigots still run it | Oct 09 07:47 |
| leah | what scares me is that there's nothing better, and everyone else is worse | Oct 09 07:48 |
| activelow | it's a misnomer women suffrage was an exclusive issue of women, because many males couldn't vote either | Oct 09 07:48 |
| leah | the left parties (labour, greens) are much more authoritarian, and end up making everything worse generally, whenever they're in power | Oct 09 07:49 |
| activelow | it isn't true only women didn't have any banking account, many males had not either | Oct 09 07:49 |
| leah | labour will build hospitals and schools, but try to take over businesses and run them into the ground | Oct 09 07:50 |
| activelow | "labour" is a marketing label, similar to distinguishing pepsi from coca cola | Oct 09 07:51 |
| activelow | to appeal to target audience, it's shallow | Oct 09 07:51 |
| activelow | it's a utility | Oct 09 07:51 |
| activelow | are there any greens in UK? | Oct 09 07:53 |
| leah | there are | Oct 09 07:53 |
| leah | trouble is, our voting system means that the UK is a 2-party state | Oct 09 07:54 |
| leah | it's like the american one | Oct 09 07:54 |
| leah | similar | Oct 09 07:54 |
| leah | and because of that, we always have a permanently authoritarian state, because politicians know they'll stay in power, or be back in power a few years later | Oct 09 07:55 |
| kingoffrance | " free market proponents suck out cash at stock exchange, and socialists seek taxation of it, which depends on each other, and doesn't contradict as they argue." lol thats not wrong | Oct 09 07:56 |
| kingoffrance | once you have national debt, its all.....on mortgage.......... | Oct 09 07:56 |
| kingoffrance | its all....meaning people as well | Oct 09 07:56 |
| leah | btw | Oct 09 07:57 |
| kingoffrance | cash used to be specie, so its credit and bonds :) | Oct 09 07:57 |
| kingoffrance | again, no contradiction :) | Oct 09 07:57 |
| leah | the government and the state are two different things | Oct 09 07:57 |
| kingoffrance | you can end "money" and keep "capitalism" going, just redefine "capital" (this did happen in u.s.a -- see moody "masters of capital" 1920-ish) | Oct 09 07:57 |
| kingoffrance | cold hard cash | Oct 09 07:58 |
| kingoffrance | it used to be metal | Oct 09 07:58 |
| kingoffrance | got redefined :) | Oct 09 07:58 |
| kingoffrance | neither cold nor hard anymore :) | Oct 09 07:58 |
| leah | the state is a larger apparatus comprosing the judiciary, the military, public/private sector, basically it's the whole package. it's the machine that runs your life, and it's always there | Oct 09 07:58 |
| leah | it's also what gives you schools and hospitals | Oct 09 07:58 |
| leah | government is more like a driver at the steering wheel, influencing the state | Oct 09 07:59 |
| kingoffrance | sorry to interrupt. you are not wrong activelow :) | Oct 09 07:59 |
| leah | but the levers of the state are still there when your government falls, if the state is stable. in western democracies, the state is very stable | Oct 09 07:59 |
| leah | sometimes the state is less defined | Oct 09 07:59 |
| leah | we're actively discouraged from thinking about this distinction | Oct 09 08:02 |
| leah | because the state is where power is executed | Oct 09 08:02 |
| leah | government takes all the blame or credit for everything. but it's all the state | Oct 09 08:02 |
| leah | you are often permitted to change your government, but never the state | Oct 09 08:03 |
| leah | whenever a state develops, it tends to get violent if challenged | Oct 09 08:03 |
| kingoffrance | makes sense, that distinction i mean. machinery versus those running it | Oct 09 08:03 |
| leah | it has to be that way, or you will have anarchy | Oct 09 08:04 |
| kingoffrance | america tried to say, long time ago, people were the state, there was no separate state, but that doesnt fit modern (see wikipedia) definitoin, state as "juridicial person" which matches your definition | Oct 09 08:04 |
| leah | and anarchy is great, but it's a risk | Oct 09 08:04 |
| kingoffrance | basically same reason "king" was a "person" (office) | Oct 09 08:04 |
| kingoffrance | to allow for perpetual succession | Oct 09 08:04 |
| kingoffrance | same as a "corporation" | Oct 09 08:04 |
| leah | and it doesn't really last | Oct 09 08:04 |
| kingoffrance | all the "persons" "offices" | Oct 09 08:04 |
| kingoffrance | like the "state" in your terms | Oct 09 08:05 |
| kingoffrance | with people occupying the different offices/persons being "government" | Oct 09 08:05 |
| kingoffrance | the other way to say that: "state" (juridicial person) is ever-shifting shorthand for some particular government | Oct 09 08:05 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, that was what ancient america tried to say | Oct 09 08:06 |
| kingoffrance | same way "king" is just shorthand for "whoever is king" | Oct 09 08:06 |
| kingoffrance | anyhow, agree 100% was same with monarchy | Oct 09 08:06 |
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| kingoffrance | its why you get "persons" no matter what | Oct 09 08:07 |
| leah | yeah, well i want the state to be decentralized, and democratic | Oct 09 08:08 |
| leah | governed collectively | Oct 09 08:09 |
| activelow | democracy is misunderstood almost always, as mob rule or dictatorship of any majority, which isn't democracy | Oct 09 08:09 |
| leah | the british state is undemocratic. it's actually autocratic, but we get to choose our government: labour party, or conservative party | Oct 09 08:10 |
| leah | and other countries have something similar | Oct 09 08:10 |
| leah | the problem is that the state is too big. the more power you give someone, the harder they hold onto it | Oct 09 08:11 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #DemocracyNow ☞ “Until I Am Free”: #KeishaBlain on the Enduring Legacy of Voting Rights Pioneer Fannie Lou Hamer https://www.democracynow.org/2021/10/8/fannie_mae | Oct 09 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | “Until I Am Free”: Keisha Blain on the Enduring Legacy of Voting Rights Pioneer Fannie Lou Hamer | Democracy Now! | Oct 09 08:12 | |
| leah | in fact, you may sometimes hear the term "head of state" | Oct 09 08:12 |
| leah | but this kind of position is usually meaningless. the term itself is misleading | Oct 09 08:13 |
| leah | damn | Oct 09 08:13 |
| leah | now i need to write another blog article | Oct 09 08:14 |
| techrights-news | iophk: just as 20+ years ago, #Microsoft was blaming "Linux people" for their security holes https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21720301 | Oct 09 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft is again blaming "RUSSIA" for Microsoft's own bugs and back doors. This is typical deflection, wherein Microsoft inflames racism and tensions... for profit. | Oct 09 08:16 | |
| kingoffrance | america used to say no separate "state" is how you get that joke: http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=republic A nation in which, the thing governing and the thing governed being the same, there is only a permitted authority to enforce an optional obedience | Oct 09 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dict.org- republic | Oct 09 08:16 | |
| leah | the state is what controls you. and the government controls the state | Oct 09 08:17 |
| kingoffrance | and that joke follows: http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=rabble The rabble is like the sacred Simurgh, of Arabian fable -- omnipotent on condition that it do nothing. | Oct 09 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dict.org- rabble | Oct 09 08:17 | |
| leah | sometimes, the state can exist without a government | Oct 09 08:17 |
| kingoffrance | sorry lol | Oct 09 08:17 |
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| activelow | with the system in place, government authority is mostly limited to *propose* legislation to parliament, which debates and decides upon it | Oct 09 08:18 |
| activelow | with recent german election of national parliament it wasn't at least possible to distinguish what would be proposed next, except for increased energy prices | Oct 09 08:20 |
| activelow | and now this must be sold to the population for whatever good this shall serve | Oct 09 08:21 |
| activelow | it was interesting to note Russians are blamed now because of "increasing prices for gas", which is a propaganda lie for all i know | Oct 09 08:21 |
| activelow | what increased wasn't the price for gas, it was the reseller surplus and taxation which comes close to 90% of the total costs in europe | Oct 09 08:22 |
| leah | actually, europe is a perfect example to demonstrate the concept of a state | Oct 09 08:23 |
| leah | the EU didn't exist until the 1992 maastricht treaty that signed it into law, by treaty. it replaced the EC (European Community), which was a loose trade federation | Oct 09 08:24 |
| kingoffrance | yes was reading wikipedia, different theories of state. hegelian "spiritual entity" and some kind of legalistic/chartered ...which is a fancy way of saying conjured into existence | Oct 09 08:25 |
| leah | european commission, council of ministers, court of justice, central bank and others: combined, these form the state that is the united states of europe | Oct 09 08:25 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, i put those the same :) | Oct 09 08:25 |
| activelow | no, economic coordination existed before (Montanunion, union of coal and steel), 1951 | Oct 09 08:26 |
| leah | yes | Oct 09 08:26 |
| kingoffrance | the general idea is modern state was juridicial person, but still no 100% agreement | Oct 09 08:26 |
| kingoffrance | that was just the most popular modern, was how i read it | Oct 09 08:26 |
| leah | but it didn't exist before | Oct 09 08:26 |
| leah | but now it does | Oct 09 08:26 |
| leah | a new state formed | Oct 09 08:26 |
| kingoffrance | wikipedia, sovereign state, calls it "documentality" i say its same as "spiritual entity" | Oct 09 08:29 |
| kingoffrance | using the paperwork to conjure :) | Oct 09 08:30 |
| techrights-news | The #billBC insinuates it "doesn't matter" if #uk is not "Europe's covid hotspot." Remember #bbc takes bribes from an enabler of Jeffrey Epstein, #billgates , so clearly nothing was learned since the BBC's cover-up for Jimmy Savile (until posthumously). | Oct 09 08:31 |
| kingoffrance | it exists, because there is documentation claiming it does, you see | Oct 09 08:35 |
| kingoffrance | circular definition :) | Oct 09 08:35 |
| activelow | i had listened to EU official talks too often, there is little to no respect remaining for this anymore | Oct 09 08:35 |
| techrights-news | Patrick Breyer: "Social [control] networks are competing for users’ attention…" - chaos.social ⚓ https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107060334397820110 ䷉ #pbreyer #de #germany | Oct 09 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "Social networks are competing for users’ attentio…" - chaos.social | Oct 09 08:35 | |
| techrights-news | Glyn Moody: "If You Want To Know Why #Section230 Matters…" - Mastodon ⚓ https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/107068114778483065 ䷉ #glynmoody | Oct 09 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "If You Want To Know Why Section 230 Matters, Just…" - Mastodon | Oct 09 08:36 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #PIA #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ From #SurveillanceCapitalism to "Influence Government": Using Microtargeted Ads to "Nudge" People's Everyday Behavior https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/from-surveillance-capitalism-to-influence-government-using-microtargeted-ads-to-nudge-peoples-everyday-behavior/ | Oct 09 08:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | From Surveillance Capitalism to "Influence Government": Using Microtargeted Ads to "Nudge" People's Everyday Behavior | Oct 09 08:37 | |
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| activelow | a recent one which pushed beyond limits of agitation and propaganda was EU court claiming absolute authority, almost god like | Oct 09 08:38 |
| activelow | when german supreme court investigated ECB decisions, and if these were in compliance with EU *contracts*, which these weren't | Oct 09 08:38 |
| activelow | EU court of justice doesn't decide upon contracts, it had to oversee and ensure compliance | Oct 09 08:39 |
| techrights-news | ＧΛËＬＤＵＶΛＬ: "In our latest newsletter... /e/ ..." - Mastodon ⚓ https://mastodon.social/@gael/107065139274703798 ䷉ #gaelduval one of the people I respect a lot. #gnu #linux #freesw | Oct 09 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | ＧΛËＬＤＵＶΛＬ: "In our latest newsletter... /e/ is not only a de…" - Mastodon | Oct 09 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | Solène :flan_hacker:: "While I like #flatpak , last release fixing another…" - #BSD Network ⚓ https://bsd.network/@solene/107066672456466131 ䷉ #solene | Oct 09 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bsd.network | Solène :flan_hacker:: "While I like flatpak, last release fixing another…" - BSD Network | Oct 09 08:40 | |
| techrights-news | it was #4opens which is simply #blocking were they needed to go to the #deathcult ⚓ https://epicyon.libreserver.org/@bob/107067777592394604 ䷉ | Oct 09 08:41 |
| activelow | in fact german supreme court didn't claim any authority, it only allowed for investigating compliance with contracts | Oct 09 08:42 |
| activelow | which isn't any violation, it is the duty of the court | Oct 09 08:42 |
| activelow | if contracts were violated, then these had to be negotiated, and not simply overruled by some mob in ECB headquarter Frankfurt | Oct 09 08:43 |
| activelow | and negotiating contracts isn't the duty of EU supreme court either, nor that of ECB, it is the authority of national governments and parliaments and their delegates of EU | Oct 09 08:44 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Pirate #IPTV Lawsuit Could've Led to Millions in Damages, Judge Says $14,000 https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-lawsuit-couldve-led-to-millions-in-damages-judge-says-14000-211008/ | Oct 09 08:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pirate IPTV Lawsuit Could've Led to Millions in Damages, Judge Says $14,000 * TorrentFreak | Oct 09 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Pirate IPTV Lawsuit Could've Led to Millions in Damages, Judge Says $14,000 * TorrentFreak | Oct 09 08:47 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #VPN Hosting Company Settles Copyright Lawsuit by Blocking Pirate Sites https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-hosting-company-settles-copyright-lawsuit-by-blocking-pirate-sites-211008/ | Oct 09 08:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VPN Hosting Company Settles Copyright Lawsuit by Blocking Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak | Oct 09 08:47 | |
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| techrights-news | 'Reverse show-off': people who show off about being (pseudo) humble when they're in fact rich or just pretending to be rich. #billgates is one of those sociopaths, predatory profiteers in disguise. Stealing while pretending to be 'humble'... and paying the media to perpetuate this false image. | Oct 09 08:55 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheNation #activism ☞ Lost Horizons https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/lost-horizons/ | Oct 09 08:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Lost Horizons | The Nation | Oct 09 08:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Lost Horizons | The Nation | Oct 09 08:56 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF #FB ☞ What the #Facebook #Whistleblower Tells Us About Big Tech https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/what-facebook-whistleblower-tells-us-about-big-tech don't say "big tech", @eff ... it's a #Microsoft -made propaganda term: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ | Oct 09 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | What the Facebook Whistleblower Tells Us About Big Tech | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 09 09:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights | Oct 09 09:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | After Whistleblower Revelations, It's Time to Unfriend Facebook | Amy Goodman | Oct 09 09:19 | |
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| techrights-news | This week in KDE: Continuous integraaaaaaation • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156586 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Continuous integraaaaaaation | Tux Machines | Oct 09 09:30 | |
| techrights-news | Best Linux Distributions Based on KDE • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156587 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 09:31 |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] It's No #RosaLuxemburg http://techrights.org/2021/10/09/meme-lex-kaufhold/ #Luxembourg #Europe #EPO #patent | Oct 09 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It’s No Rosa Luxemburg | Techrights | Oct 09 09:52 | |
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| leah | i think i just nailed it | Oct 09 10:41 |
| leah | i kept trying to do a video the other day, of the chip swap, and kept failing to do a video that didn't suck | Oct 09 10:41 |
| leah | this one i think is the one | Oct 09 10:42 |
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| DaemonFC | The more I think about it, in Fallout New Vegas, the Mr. House ending should probably be canonical. | Oct 09 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | Either House or the player upgrading the securitrons into the army, killing House, and taking over and driving out the NCR and Caesar's Legion. | Oct 09 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Whether the player kills House and assumes control of a strong and independent Vegas or lets House stay in and run things, it's better than the NCR or Legion endings. The Legion runs on top of a slave army, suppresses technology, and imposes capital punishment for minor offenses, including homosexuality. Humanity would suffer and becomes stagnant under them. | Oct 09 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | The New California Republic isn't a slave army, but they do want to conquer everything and expand and tax, and so it would end up being much like the United States, which was the main reason that World War 3 happened in the first place. And it's clear that they have almost no understanding of high techonology stuff at all because they struggle to even turn Hoover Dam or Helios One on. Unless the player intervenes, they can only figure out how | Oct 09 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | to run Hoover Dam at 50% and run Helios One at 1% of potential electric output, because they have some idiot there spouting treknobabble at the government people, who don't even realize he's a fraud. | Oct 09 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | If the player does succeed in getting Helios One running for the NCR, the con artist takes all the credit immediately, and most of the power gets routed back to California where it won't help Vegas or the surrounding slums. | Oct 09 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | The Mr. House ending is the best, because he has a lot of points. Democracies failed and caused the war and ruined the planet the first time around, and he actually is a genius who saw the war coming and saved Vegas while the government didn't see it until the end and only managed to continue through continuity plans involving becoming the Enclave. House says put him in charge and he'll reignite the technology sector and get people back to | Oct 09 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | modern life in 20 years, and colonizing other worlds in 100. | Oct 09 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's just bizarre how science fiction timelines of the 21st century predicted something similar to what's going on now. | Oct 09 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | The failures of western democracies. The economic problems. The rise of anti-democratic forces and the threat of a third world war. | Oct 09 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's clear at this point we're looking at another cold war at best. | Oct 09 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | Hoping it doesn't turn into a shooting war. | Oct 09 11:11 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: energy prices. gas prices exploded in europe. | Oct 09 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that the US is in any sort of a position to intervene like it did in the second world war. | Oct 09 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | At best, it can defend its own territory with the threat of a devastating nuclear attack if invaded. | Oct 09 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | activelow, Yes, natural gas is getting very expensive here. | Oct 09 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | They're saying if your home uses it for heat, your energy bill this winter will be godawful. | Oct 09 11:13 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: i'll not turn on heating, and keep shower output at lowest output | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, the US and the UK blew the wad on the middle east and enabled the rise of China with these damned trade policies that made us pushovers. | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | So we're too weak to fight now. | Oct 09 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Especially given that we'd be up against a fairly modern military as soon as China wants to start rolling over the borders with the surrounding nations and annexing them. | Oct 09 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> DaemonFC: i'll not turn on heating, and keep shower output at lowest output | Oct 09 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, we usually just keep it high enough that the pipes don't burst and layer up. | Oct 09 11:16 |
| activelow | the knob is set to freezing protection of cause | Oct 09 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/minor-update-4-3/ | Oct 09 11:17 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Vivaldi had to bump the release again because they accidentally left a Google tracker on that they meant to disable. | Oct 09 11:18 |
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| DaemonFC | So they rolled a newer Chomium and fixed some other issues while they were at it. | Oct 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | activelow, I sent our new lease back to the landlord with the increased rent starting next month. | Oct 09 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just glad ours didn't go up more than it did. | Oct 09 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing keeping it down, amusingly, is all of the violent crime and taxes caused by the Democrat Party and their patronage army voters of felon convicts and state "workers". | Oct 09 11:22 |
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| DaemonFC | With a few mjg59_'s thrown in for good measure. Hate their own race. Internalized guilt. | Oct 09 11:23 |
| activelow | pardon? | Oct 09 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's a phenomenon called White Guilt. | Oct 09 11:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Some people feel "guilty" for being white and feel like it's their job to make up for every problem ever caused by "the collective" of white people at any point in history. | Oct 09 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | In Germany, I think there's this attitude of "collective guilt" over the Holocaust. Every time some of your politicians want to do something nasty that will hurt you, they bring up Hitler and the Nazis, right? | Oct 09 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like, we have to let all of these people from shithole countries in to ruin Germany. You wouldn't want to be a Nazi, right!? | Oct 09 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | We have the same problem here. | Oct 09 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | People saying we owe it to all of those Haitians to let them all in to bring in more crime and disease and live off welfare programs. | Oct 09 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | "You remember that time 160 years ago when there was slavery! You wouldn't want to be like that!" | Oct 09 11:27 |
| activelow | pardon again. | Oct 09 11:27 |
| activelow | my complaint is government lying about official data reported, first and foremost. | Oct 09 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | "You're part of the collective who caused that mess, even though you weren't born for another 119 years!" | Oct 09 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | "You're white! White = bad!" - mjg59_ | Oct 09 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> my complaint is government lying about official data reported, first and foremost. | Oct 09 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Every government does that. | Oct 09 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | The one in China says they've never had a serious problem with COVID and that people stopped dying off it months in because the Communist Party took care of it. The end. | Oct 09 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Even if anyone in China, who has to live under constant propaganda, thinks otherwise, they'll have the cops at their front door if they start saying anything against the narrative. | Oct 09 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | You're doing well these days to live under a government that doesn't make it a criminal offense to disagree openly with their propaganda. | Oct 09 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | But in America, we've outsourced the punishment to the private sector. | Oct 09 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Won't get a COVID shot because reasons? You don't get a kidney transplant or a job. | Oct 09 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | Have opinions that some lefty troll in the hiring department doesn't like? No job. | Oct 09 11:32 |
| activelow | ^ | Oct 09 11:32 |
| activelow | first and foremost facts, this is what i have. and what i haven't. | Oct 09 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | You're playing with fire with those government courts. | Oct 09 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | Believe me, I know. | Oct 09 11:33 |
| activelow | and no, i am not glad to live in germany, had not been in 20years. | Oct 09 11:33 |
| activelow | this is not my country anymore. | Oct 09 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | If the government does allow you to sue it, you're still suing the government on their turf. | Oct 09 11:33 |
| activelow | depends, btw. almost always it isn't all equally affected by opression and corruption. in fact a majority can benefit from it. | Oct 09 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it does allow you to file a claim it will either be decided by a government agent (the judge) or a jury which has been contaminated and brainwashed by the government. | Oct 09 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Into a bunch of simpletons with a slate of opinions given to them by CNN or Fox News. | Oct 09 11:35 |
| activelow | i think, germany is politically and socially bancrupt, not economically. this is the weird contradiction. and a promise wealth grows regardless. | Oct 09 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | They make their own citizens destitute and jobless so they can bring in a bunch of uncivilized third world garbage that we don't need from, like, Haiti. | Oct 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then they say it's atonement for racial guilt for being white. | Oct 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | If they would stop killing and robbing and raping _each other_ in Haiti and focus on building their own goddamned country up, they wouldn't need our welfare system, which we are absolutely not obligated to give them. | Oct 09 11:37 |
| activelow | the frontlines of the culture war are more complicated than "whiteness", such as, reminder, language spoken in gemany is... german. | Oct 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Oh these people have no intention of learning English. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| activelow | and german politicians giving speeches in EU parliament, in english language, or french. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | They demand translators and government forms in their own language, at our expense as well. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| activelow | rarely had i noticed any french or spanish or english politician had ever given a speech in german language, in EU parliament. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> and german politicians giving speeches in EU parliament, in english language, or french. | Oct 09 11:39 |
| activelow | *holding | Oct 09 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | Well, in context that may or may not be a problem. | Oct 09 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't like the idea of people showing up pn my front door wanting in when there's nothing out of the ordinary going on in their own country. | Oct 09 11:41 |
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| DaemonFC | No imminent danger if they live there. | Oct 09 11:41 |
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| DaemonFC | What's going on with Haiti and these migrant caravans is an outrage. | Oct 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | We ought to just put them all on a cruise ship and send them back. | Oct 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Take over one of those cruise ships that can fit a bunch of them and do it all in a few runs. | Oct 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Those immigration detention centers that are packed, well, that's their own fault. | Oct 09 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | You come into my country illegally and then complain when you get arrested and don't get to say when they get around to you. You know, and they could sign a form promising they won't come back and just be deported the next day. | Oct 09 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | So they can leave and go back into Mexico any time they want. | Oct 09 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | They choose to be detained. | Oct 09 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'm supposed to feel bad. | Oct 09 11:44 |
| activelow | i cannot comment on US politics concerning this. and eu politics were cynical to say the least. | Oct 09 11:44 |
| activelow | first agitating for "immigration" to compensate for pension fund deficiencies and workforce. | Oct 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | The people they want to bring in didn't build anything in their own country. | Oct 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | Now they promise that they'll fund your pensions and perform work in Germany. | Oct 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | Same thing happening here. | Oct 09 11:45 |
| activelow | even if, first and foremost government is lying about the data. | Oct 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | We're talking about people, who, in their own country, relied on volunteers from places like the US, UK, and Canada, to go build houses and flush toilets for them while they stood there and watched. | Oct 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | Left to their own devices, in places like South Africa, they literally just dig a hole and shit in the hole. | Oct 09 11:46 |
| activelow | the argument is at least somewhat plausible, however evident fact is this pension funds are deficient, and population size increased, it did not decrease, never did, in total. | Oct 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | Many don't have plumbing and never will, unless engineers from civilized places go build it. | Oct 09 11:47 |
| activelow | even worse, east-german youth was lured into west often, for digestion in the meat grinder there. | Oct 09 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | The black government took over SA and can't actually do anything. | Oct 09 11:47 |
| activelow | migration and economic policies in Germany/Eu were excessive beyond imagination to refuel one economic boom after the next one. | Oct 09 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | They don't know how and they've locked out the white people who had built things up so they can't even feed the country or keep the lights on or educate the next generation. | Oct 09 11:47 |
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| activelow | not at least estimating required housing in the cities, nor organizing anything to settle inhabitants and plan cities and economic structures. | Oct 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | They're such anti-white racists that they won't even allow the ones who know how everything works educate black people to take things over! | Oct 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | So you end up with this shit going on where they seize a farm from whites and then the Speaker of their legislature has a farm full of dead farm animals and goes "Welp, I'm learning!!! Herp derp!". | Oct 09 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | So you now have white people as an underclass there, drinking themselves to death. Can't get a good job. The older ones who can do things and make stuff work are locked out of employment and can't teach their skill. | Oct 09 11:50 |
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| DaemonFC | So it's reverting into a third world country. | Oct 09 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | This is what happens to people who go looking for revenge. | Oct 09 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | They want it so bad they'll shoot themselves in the foot to get it. | Oct 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | What's happening in South Africa will eventually happen in the US too if you give the Democrats a chance. | Oct 09 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Black people are taught helplessness and reliance upon the state by the Democrats. | Oct 09 11:52 |
| activelow | i am not in the position to comment on US politics | Oct 09 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | So they're <14% of the population but 96% of them vote Democrat. | Oct 09 11:52 |
| activelow | however, some certain "ideals" of anglo-american academia are imposed onto germany | Oct 09 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | So the last thing the party wants is black people getting ahead without the government handouts. So they keep them down to ensure the votes come in. | Oct 09 11:53 |
| activelow | problem being, as i tried to explain, anglo-american academica couldn't imagine at least it is germang language spoken here, not english | Oct 09 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | My point is that instead of solving problems, they create more. | Oct 09 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | They want people to be dependent on the welfare checks coming in each month so they can't get rid of The Party. | Oct 09 11:54 |
| activelow | academia | Oct 09 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | They want people to have to pay high taxes and then beg for it back as welfare payments so they can't ever get ahead and need The Party. | Oct 09 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans, I can at least kind of agree with on their tax policy. | Oct 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | "You want to do better? Here's some low taxes. Don't call us." | Oct 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | The low taxes benefit the black people, who work. | Oct 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | You go to work, you pay half as much taxes. You're better off. | Oct 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | People earning money from crime and welfare don't pay taxes, so it doesn't help them. | Oct 09 11:57 |
| activelow | i estimate the worth of my work and income by purchasing power, which is practically absent | Oct 09 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, they take it from you as inflation and taxes, to give it to people who do nothing, or worse, commit crimes. | Oct 09 11:58 |
| activelow | if income sufficed for house,garden,family,... i didn't bother with any taxes if it was 90% | Oct 09 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | Or produce children who will have nothing, so the problem grows exponentially. | Oct 09 11:58 |
| activelow | got no children | Oct 09 11:59 |
| activelow | wouldn't trust neither the state nor economy nor myself, to remain long-term reliable | Oct 09 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | Giving these moochers money every month and ignoring their crimes against the state is like being told you have lunch cancer, so instead of cutting out the cancer, you smoke another pack per day. | Oct 09 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | *lung | Oct 09 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | *autocorrect fail :P | Oct 09 11:59 |
| activelow | yes, i do smoke | Oct 09 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | I think that the government should have a policy. "You contribute and the rewards are immense. You commit crime, the punishments are immense.". | Oct 09 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | It makes too much sense, I know. | Oct 09 12:01 |
| activelow | compliance with any law and moral standards would be a good start | Oct 09 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | As long as there's nothing to gain by following the law, they won't. | Oct 09 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | They got Kim Foxx in as the Prosecutor in Chicago and now they can do anything they want. | Oct 09 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | That's why crime is surging off the charts. As bas as it's been since the 1970s. | Oct 09 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | It goes almost completely unpunished in Chicago, but only for black and brown people. | Oct 09 12:10 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Mask the voice? What do ye mean by that? | Oct 09 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | Charges just magically get droppes, nobody wants to hold them on bail. | Oct 09 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | *dropped | Oct 09 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats are the party of crime and mayhem. | Oct 09 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | Because all of the violence and abortion. | Oct 09 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | And 2/3rds of them back forever wars too! | Oct 09 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | They're no damned good. Neither party is any damned good. They promise the moon and the stars and then they get in and nothing happens. | Oct 09 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | The decisions on how everything important will play out are already made. The election doesn't really change anything except who the rotten bastards who get our money for being cronies are. | Oct 09 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats in Illinois expanded abortion to public Medicaid and state employee insurance plans. | Oct 09 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | So it makes every Illinois taxpayer an accomplice to murder. | Oct 09 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | Every time you pay tax, some of that is going to help people murder a helpless person, and then instead of being charged with murder, the Democrats tell the murderer how "brave" she is, because she had to walk past some people picketing the abortion clinic. | Oct 09 12:16 |
| *activelow shakes head | Oct 09 12:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I've always been pretty uncomfortable with the whole idea of abortion. | Oct 09 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | If I find out someone has had one, I won't even talk to them. | Oct 09 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | It takes a pretty depraved person to even strongly consider this as an option. | Oct 09 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | With the exception being extreme circumstance. Like, you'll die without one or there's something seriously wrong with the fetus. | Oct 09 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't know if I have it in me to support either major party anymore. | Oct 09 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | They've both made a complete mess of things. It's a slightly different mess, but it's a mess. | Oct 09 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | activelow, At least here, if the minor parties actually won anything, I think things would change. But there's no chance of that happening. | Oct 09 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | Still, I'll probably change my party affiliation to the Libertarian Party. | Oct 09 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe it's the best we could hope for. Non-interference except to enforce public safety and national defense. | Oct 09 12:22 |
| activelow | whatever you want DaemonFC, abortions are done | Oct 09 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, unfortunately they are. | Oct 09 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | The Supreme Court made up Roe out of whole cloth. | Oct 09 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | There's no legal basis for that decision. It was wrong and illegal then, and hopefully that will be reversed very soon. | Oct 09 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | And the left is panicking because they know it was never based on any right even implied by the constitution. | Oct 09 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | The constitution implies you have a right to privacy. Okay, so? | Oct 09 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | You have a right to privacy. That doesn't mean we strike down laws against murder. | Oct 09 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's illegal for me to garrote you in private. | Oct 09 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, all reversing Roe would do is kick it back to the states. | Oct 09 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | States could make murder legal if they wanted to. None of them will, but they could. | Oct 09 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Murder being how it's classified now, I mean. | Oct 09 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Killing someone isn't always "murder" in the legal definitions. | Oct 09 12:27 |
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| DaemonFC | The decision to allow same-sex marriage is more complicated. While we can say that decision is rooted in the constitution because it expands a right, and it expands a right that other citizens had, the decision to force states to allow abortion takes away a right. | Oct 09 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | We recognize that I, for example, have a legal right to not be murdered. | Oct 09 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | But if I was a fetus and my mother decided to do so, there's no such right. No protection. This is horrible. | Oct 09 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> whatever you want DaemonFC, abortions are done | Oct 09 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | Probably always will be, because people who want to sabotage the law figure out some method. | Oct 09 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | But taxpayers shouldn't have to support it. | Oct 09 12:30 |
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| DaemonFC | And I think it's an issue for the states. | Oct 09 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a federal issue. | Oct 09 12:30 |
| activelow | what taxpayers support is consultation of a medic and some mental care and similar, in germany | Oct 09 12:30 |
| activelow | advertising abortions is illegal | Oct 09 12:30 |
| activelow | what are you trying to explain DaemonFC ? | Oct 09 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | People don't focus on their state legislature because they figure they won some court battle a long time ago. | Oct 09 12:31 |
| activelow | which people, which court battle? | Oct 09 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | If abortion being legal is important to women in Texas, they need to focus on their legislature. They need to get those people who banned it out of the legislature. | Oct 09 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | If they can do that via a democratic process, then so be it. | Oct 09 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | But they made an end run around community morals and went to the Supreme Court. | Oct 09 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | And it's not even that I have a big problem with. | Oct 09 12:32 |
| activelow | abortions can only be excempt from penal code, this is the explanation i heard of | Oct 09 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | If the state is actually doing something the constitution at least implies it can't do, then you should sue it. | Oct 09 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | But there is nothing in our federal cosntitution that says you have a right to an abortion. | Oct 09 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Or even implies such. | Oct 09 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | You don't like who's in there, vote them out! -Willie Nelson | Oct 09 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans in Texas could be sorry they even started down this path. | Oct 09 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Had they left things alone, they wouldn't be facing blowback from motivated groups, and now they might. | Oct 09 12:34 |
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| techrights-news | Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn #OpenMP - LinuxLinks ⚓ https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-openmp/ ䷉ #LinuxLinks #programming | Oct 09 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn OpenMP - LinuxLinks | Oct 09 12:40 | |
| techrights-news | Incredible that #IBM published such an article about viciously defaming and attacking RMS, who founded the whole movement https://opensource.com/article/21/10/disagreement-open-source see http://techrights.org/2021/04/03/fedora-f-for-fascism-and-not-freedom/ | Oct 09 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How disagreement creates unity in open source | Opensource.com | Oct 09 12:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fedora Council is Just a Mouthpiece and Instrument of IBM Management, It Doesn’t Speak For (What Used to Be) Fedora Project/Community | Techrights | Oct 09 12:46 | |
| techrights-news | #Flatpak 1.12 improves Steam support and fixes a serious vulnerability http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156561#comment-31303 | Oct 09 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flatpak 1.12 Released with Better Support for the Steam Linux Runtime Mechanism, More | Tux Machines | Oct 09 12:49 | |
| techrights-news | Jon Chiappetta: Time’s Cover Page -!- I Think It’s About Time https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2021/10/08/times-cover-page-i-think-its-about-time/ #deleteFacebook #FB #facebook (remember Time also make this scrawny little sociopath person of the year instead of #assange more than a decade ago) | Oct 09 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossjon.wordpress.com | Time’s Cover Page -!- I Think It’s About Time – Jon's FOSS Blog | Oct 09 12:50 | |
| techrights-news | Ｔｅｃｈｒｉｇｈｔｓ #IRC Proceedings: Friday, October 08, 2021 • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/09/irc-log-081021/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/09/irc-log-081021/ | Oct 09 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, October 08, 2021 | Techrights | Oct 09 13:02 | |
| techrights-news | As we shall see tonight, Luxembourg’s #LexKaufhold was among the enablers of Benoît #Battistelli and the #EPO ‘s liberticidal new mission, neglecting EPO workers from Luxembourg as if their rights don’t matter • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/09/meme-lex-kaufhold/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/09/meme-lex-kaufhold/ | Oct 09 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It’s No Rosa Luxemburg | Techrights | Oct 09 13:04 | |
| techrights-news | #KDEItinerary @ ITS City Hack Hamburg 2021 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156588 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Itinerary @ ITS City Hack Hamburg 2021 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:05 | |
| techrights-news | "...fulfilling a long community request." https://www.mmorpg.com/news/early-access-crpg-black-geyser-adds-mac-and-linux-support-2000123293 Some also say that about 'anti-cheating'. For #drm in #linux I guess... or a rootkit. | Oct 09 13:08 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 mmorpg.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 13:08 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mmorpg.com/news/early-access-crpg-black-geyser-adds-mac-and-linux-support-2000123293 | Oct 09 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Early Access CRPG Black Geyser Adds Mac And Linux Support | MMORPG.com | Oct 09 13:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Early Access CRPG Black Geyser Adds Mac And Linux Support | MMORPG.com | Oct 09 13:08 | |
| techrights-news | The 8 best opensource collaboration software • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156589 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 8 best opensource collaboration software | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:12 | |
| techrights-news | For those of us who don't do "APPS" or "CrAPPLE" this does not matter. https://liliputing.com/2021/10/apple-appeals-the-epic-games-ruling-asks-for-stay-on-order-to-open-up-the-app-store-a-little.html | Oct 09 13:13 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 liliputing.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 13:13 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://liliputing.com/2021/10/apple-appeals-the-epic-games-ruling-asks-for-stay-on-order-to-open-up-the-app-store-a-little.html | Oct 09 13:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple appeals the Epic Games ruling, asks for stay on order to (sightly) loosen App Store restrictions - Liliputing | Oct 09 13:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Apple appeals the Epic Games ruling, asks for stay on order to (sightly) loosen App Store restrictions - Liliputing | Oct 09 13:13 | |
| DaemonFC | The GNOME Authenticator app in Debian is broken. Can't scan QR codes. | Oct 09 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to get the version from Flatpak now. | Oct 09 13:14 |
| techrights-news | "Earlier this year, I joined #Collabora as an intern to work on improving testing in #libcamera and automating it through #KernelCI . Having recently completed the internship, here's a look back at this experience and what was accomplished." https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/10/08/improving-test-coverage-for-cameras/ | Oct 09 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | Improving test coverage for cameras in KernelCI | Oct 09 13:14 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▃▄▄▇▅▅▅▆▄▅▅▅▃▄▅▆▄▅▃▄▆▄▅▃▄▄▄▄▆▆▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁█▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 29.65▕ swarm size (avg): 258.20 ⟲ | Oct 09 13:18 |
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| techrights-news | Kodi 19.2 Improves Xbox Support and Support for Devices Running Old Android Versions • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156590 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kodi 19.2 Improves Xbox Support and Support for Devices Running Old Android Versions | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:18 | |
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| techrights-news | Even things that are NOT #clowncomputing as being spun as clown https://www.noobslab.com/2021/10/5-reasons-why-makes-sense-move-to-bare-metal-cloud-infrastructure.html | Oct 09 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 Reasons Why It Makes Sense to Move to Bare-Metal Cloud Infrastructure - NoobsLab | Eye on Digital World | Oct 09 13:25 | |
| techrights-news | 8 Best Open Source Library Management Software in 2021 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156591 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Best Open Source Library Management Software in 2021 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:29 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156592 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:29 | |
| techrights-news | #intel is doomed when small machines like these can do so much and run on standard batteries https://hackaday.com/2021/10/08/minitel-terminal-becomes-mini-laptop/ | Oct 09 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Minitel Terminal Becomes Mini Laptop | Hackaday | Oct 09 13:30 | |
| techrights-news | Apache Releases HTTP Server version 2.4.51 to Address Vulnerabilities Under Exploitation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156505#comment-31305 | Oct 09 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, Reproducible Builds, and More | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:32 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/detroit-man-accused-of-brutal-and-unprovoked-attack-on-employer-because-he-thought-he-was-underpaid | Oct 09 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Detroit man accused of 'brutal and unprovoked attack' on employer because he thought he was underpaid | Oct 09 13:33 | |
| techrights-news | "A large strawberry squid, one of three caught on the last trawl of the Deep-See cruise. Photo: NOAA Fisheries" https://blizzardofjj.tumblr.com/post/662662797804568577/a-large-strawberry-squid-one-of-three-caught-on | Oct 09 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blizzardofjj.tumblr.com | Blog | Oct 09 13:33 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: maybe he was underpaid | Oct 09 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even if he was... | Oct 09 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | this shows a rotting society | Oct 09 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | because if there was an error, it could be corrected | Oct 09 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | Look at his criminal record. | Oct 09 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's on the bottom of the page. | Oct 09 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | Three different states. Arizona, Illinois, and Michigan. | Oct 09 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | Multiple outstanding warrants. | Oct 09 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | Convictions on assault with great bodily harm and domestic violence. | Oct 09 13:35 |
| techrights-news | Remember when #ibm actually did something? Other than dying? https://hackaday.com/2021/10/08/model-f-keyboard-restoration-goes-the-extra-mile/ | Oct 09 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Model F Keyboard Restoration Goes The Extra Mile | Hackaday | Oct 09 13:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Didn't even show up to answer for three traffic offenses in Highland Park, IL. | Oct 09 13:35 |
| techrights-news | Blues Wireless Swan board adds castellated holes to #Adafruit Feather form factor - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/08/blues-wireless-swan-board-adds-castellated-holes-to-adafruit-feather-form-factor/ ䷉ | Oct 09 13:37 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 cnx-software.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 13:37 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/08/blues-wireless-swan-board-adds-castellated-holes-to-adafruit-feather-form-factor/ | Oct 09 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Blues Wireless Swan board adds castellated holes to Adafruit Feather form factor - CNX Software | Oct 09 13:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Blues Wireless Swan board adds castellated holes to Adafruit Feather form factor - CNX Software | Oct 09 13:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Traffic court is like any other court except that when you send in the ticket, you're making a plea instead of going to the court date on the ticket and doing it then. It saves you from having to show up twice. | Oct 09 13:37 |
| techrights-news | #IonoRP - An industrial PLC with a Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/09/iono-rp-industrial-plc-with-a-raspberry-pi-rp2040-mcu/ ䷉ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | Oct 09 13:37 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 cnx-software.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 13:37 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/09/iono-rp-industrial-plc-with-a-raspberry-pi-rp2040-mcu/ | Oct 09 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Iono RP - An industrial PLC with a Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU - CNX Software | Oct 09 13:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Iono RP - An industrial PLC with a Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU - CNX Software | Oct 09 13:37 | |
| DaemonFC | If you never answer, they can issue a bench warrant, but if you were arraigned and skip the trial, they just find you guilty. | Oct 09 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | So many people just never answer the ticket and end up with a warrant, and can be arrested at any time over a petty offense. It's dumb. | Oct 09 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | Then you risk being in jail for a weekend until they can haul you in front of the judge on Monday. :) | Oct 09 13:39 |
| techrights-news | "[Nicolas] specializes in DIY musical instruments, made mostly with PVC tubes and salvaged parts from commercial instruments, so the solution to his problem was completely in his hands." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/08/hacked-set-of-instruments-saves-musicians-gigs/ | Oct 09 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hacked Set Of Instruments Saves Musician’s Gigs | Hackaday | Oct 09 13:40 | |
| DaemonFC | No thinking person would want to risk 36 hours in jail on a ticket they'll most likely end up having to pay. | Oct 09 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then it gets better still. | Oct 09 13:41 |
| techrights-news | #Kubernetes Blog: Introducing ClusterClass and Managed Topologies in Cluster API https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/10/08/capi-clusterclass-and-managed-topologies/ | Oct 09 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Introducing ClusterClass and Managed Topologies in Cluster API | Kubernetes | Oct 09 13:41 | |
| DaemonFC | So you were in jail on the traffic warrant, then you go in front of a judge in shackles and a jail jumpsuit. He convicts you on the ticket, and then says you used the jail and have to pay for that too. | Oct 09 13:42 |
| techrights-news | Video Editing with Linux: Tips and Tricks to Manage Kdenlive’s Settings, Files and More. https://puri.sm/posts/video-editing-with-linux-tips-and-ticks-to-manage-kdenlives-settings-files-and-more/ #Kdenlive #KDE #gnu #linux #freesw | Oct 09 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Video Editing with Linux: Tips and Tricks to Manage Kdenlive’s Settings, Files and More. – Purism | Oct 09 13:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Oh yes, they like to force you to pay for the cost of the police that beat you up, and your stay at the county jail. | Oct 09 13:43 |
| techrights-news | "The #Arduino programmable fingerprint sensor is equipped with Fingerprints‘ FPC BM-Lite fingerprint capacitive biometric sensor that’s much more compact and power-efficient than traditional optical fingerprint sensors." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/08/chhavi-esp32-fingerprint-sensor-nfc-battery/ | Oct 09 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Chhavi - An ESP32-based fingerprint sensor with optional NFC, battery (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Oct 09 13:45 | |
| altlink_48f | 📣 cnx-software.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 13:45 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/08/chhavi-esp32-fingerprint-sensor-nfc-battery/ | Oct 09 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Chhavi - An ESP32-based fingerprint sensor with optional NFC, battery (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Oct 09 13:45 | |
| techrights-news | Some of the waste associated with green(washing) tech https://hackaday.com/2021/10/08/can-we-repurpose-old-wind-turbine-blades/ | Oct 09 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can We Repurpose Old Wind Turbine Blades? | Hackaday | Oct 09 13:50 | |
| DaemonFC | I always thought that was sort of funny. | Oct 09 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | They always had the choice not to bother you, but why do that when they can bother you and then make you pay them for that too. | Oct 09 13:50 |
| techrights-news | How about using a drawer? Would take up less plastic... https://hackaday.com/2021/10/08/3d-printed-preschooler-proof-mp3-player-takes-a-beat-ing/ | Oct 09 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3D Printed Preschooler Proof MP3 Player Takes A Beat-ing | Hackaday | Oct 09 13:52 | |
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| techrights-news | #ibm #redhat is #openwashing a #patent #cartel associated with 5G in "Open5G" https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/bharti-airtel-cto-5g-is-a-tough-use-case/2021/10/ | Oct 09 13:56 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 sdxcentral.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 13:56 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/bharti-airtel-cto-5g-is-a-tough-use-case/2021/10/ | Oct 09 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bharti Airtel CTO: ‘5G Is a Tough Use Case’ - SDxCentral | Oct 09 13:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Bharti Airtel CTO: ‘5G Is a Tough Use Case’ - SDxCentral | Oct 09 13:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, My guess is that part of the reason the government mandates blind spot detection and adaptive cruise control now is it wants all of these cars on the highway putting out radar signals. | Oct 09 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | So that it will confuse your radar detector and have it go off constantly. | Oct 09 13:57 |
| techrights-news | What #ibm #rehat means when it speaks of "open" 5G... it runs IBM vendor lock-in somewhere at the back end: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/vodafoneziggo-calls-red-hat-help-power-5g-and-it-application-innovation | Oct 09 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | VodafoneZiggo Calls on Red Hat to Help Power 5G and IT Application Innovation | Oct 09 13:57 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: cars are hostile now | Oct 09 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | too much tracking | Oct 09 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | Humorously, it affects people like me the least because we're always driving some old piece of junk that didn't have it, or has less of it. | Oct 09 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com | Oct 09 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | FOX 32 Chicago | Oct 09 13:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Speaking of rotting society, billionaire governor "Prickster" says Chicago is "on the verge" of an emergency in violent crime. | Oct 09 14:00 |
| techrights-news | Hacking on #kernel for #easyOS https://bkhome.org/news/202110/powerapplet-tray-fixed-for-recent-kernels.html #linux | Oct 09 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | powerapplet-tray fixed for recent kernels | Oct 09 14:00 | |
| DaemonFC | More dangerous than Iraq during the height of the WAR. | Oct 09 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | And we're "on the verge" of an emergency.... | Oct 09 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: we're moving astray off topic | Oct 09 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | Between him and Mayor Beetlejuice and Kim Foxx dropping all of the felonies and signaling they can do whatever they want, I wonder how that happened. | Oct 09 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | Violent crime tripled since Foxx and Lightfoot got in. | Oct 09 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | This year will be the worst violent crime stats since 1978! | Oct 09 14:01 |
| techrights-news | Dirk Eddelbuettel needs to #deletegithub and not do banking through #proprietarySoftware and #microsoft http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/10/08#corels_0.0.3 | Oct 09 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | Oct 09 14:01 | |
| DaemonFC | People turned the city over to a black mayor and a black prosecutor just for no other reason than their race. No thinking about qualifications or anything. | Oct 09 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | And they managed to install a couple of gibbering vegetables and now the city is paralyzed by crime. | Oct 09 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | I will never live there again unless someone manages to bring this back under control, and even then you never know. Administrations change. People get used to lower crime and not having trash all over the fucking place, and they think what's the harm in voting for people like Lightfoot, and then it happens again. | Oct 09 14:04 |
| techrights-news | "And there’s more: Thorsten Behrens from The Document Foundation’s Board of Directors is on the jury" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/10/08/youth-hacking-4-freedom-from-the-free-software-foundation-europe/ counterpoint: https://danielpocock.com/google-fsfe-child-labor/ #documentfoundation #fsfe | Oct 09 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | Societal rot is letting things like this happen. | Oct 09 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Youth Hacking 4 Freedom – from the Free Software Foundation Europe - The Document Foundation Blog | Oct 09 14:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfellowship.eu | Google, FSFE & Child labor | Oct 09 14:05 | |
| DaemonFC | During those "Mexican Independence Day" celebrations in Waukegan where they were throwing their garbage into the street while the cops just watched and did nothing... | Oct 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | They could have done littering citations. That's $1,000 fine and go pick up litter for 80 hours or something, you know. | Oct 09 14:05 |
| techrights-news | Perl Weekly Challenge 133: Integer Square Roots and Smith Numbers http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2021/10/perl-weekly-challenge-133-integer-square-roots-and-smith-numbers.html #perl #programming | Oct 09 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl Weekly Challenge 133: Integer Square Roots and Smith Numbers | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] | Oct 09 14:06 | |
| techrights-news | #KDE Frameworks 5.87 Makes Plasma Discover Faster, Improves Support for Kirigami Apps • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156593 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.87 Makes Plasma Discover Faster, Improves Support for Kirigami Apps | Tux Machines | Oct 09 14:06 | |
| DaemonFC | No, they just back and watch because it's not politically correct to enforce the law because it's a Mexican Independence Day thing. | Oct 09 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | Now if white people got together and trashed the place and had Trump flags flying from SUVs, there'd be tickets flying all over the place. | Oct 09 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | Unlicensed parade, littering, disorderly conduct. That's why it doesn't happen. | Oct 09 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | That's what you get with a lefty government. | Oct 09 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Now people say they're being audited by the IRS, which is claiming their Stimulus Checks were taxable income. | Oct 09 14:09 |
| techrights-news | FSFE has the audacity to profit from the 4 freedoms whose pioneer it has been slandering https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20211008-01.en.html | Oct 09 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Learn about Free Software in the Legal Context with FSFE's Legal Education Day - FSFE | Oct 09 14:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Even though the law says they were not taxable income, they were "credits". | Oct 09 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | Election's over. Time to pay for Biden's Green New Deal.....it goes something something everyone on food stamps. | Oct 09 14:09 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I don't know how I feel about open source tax software. | Oct 09 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | The consequences of getting your calculations wrong are pretty bad. | Oct 09 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2021/10/08/1043506293/2020-census-results-accuracy-undercount-populations-post-enumeration-survey | Oct 09 14:20 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 npr.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 14:20 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2021/10/08/1043506293/2020-census-results-accuracy-undercount-populations-post-enumeration-survey | Oct 09 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Census Bureau checks count's accuracy with Post-Enumeration Survey : NPR | Oct 09 14:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Census Bureau checks count's accuracy with Post-Enumeration Survey : NPR | Oct 09 14:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Nobody from the census even tried to count the motel we lived at. | Oct 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | I had to go to census.gov and fill it out myself, voluntarily, which is odd considering you legally have to, but nothing ever arrived, and nobody ever came out. | Oct 09 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The United States is a train wreck domestically. | Oct 09 14:21 |
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| DaemonFC | I can't imagine how it thinks it can impose foreign policy on the world. | Oct 09 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | This idea isn't quite as comical as the UK as a world power, but it's moving in that direction. | Oct 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | The UK is only on the United Nations Security Council as a permanent member because it got a seat as a major player in the immediate aftermath of the second world war. | Oct 09 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | If they were doling out seats today, I don't know that it would get one. And France? Come on. | Oct 09 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | The US would. | Oct 09 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | If anyone would get seats as the dominant countries, it would be the United States, China, and Russia for sure. Maybe the EU would get one as a whole. | Oct 09 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | In a distant fourth place. | Oct 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | They have a large economy if you consider them all togather, but they're not a major unified military force. | Oct 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | Even Germany has a lot of broken down equipment because it spends so little. | Oct 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | The US is frantically, and maybe too late, trying to band together a coalition of allies to contain China's ambitions. | Oct 09 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | Trump set us back four years while he did nothing except antagonize our allies and beat his chest about how we didn't need anyone's help. | Oct 09 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/carjackings-the-worst-on-chicagos-west-side-north-side-sees-spike | Oct 09 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Carjackings the worst on Chicago's West Side, North Side sees spike | Oct 09 14:29 | |
| DaemonFC | News as comedy. | Oct 09 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's statistically more dangerous to be in Chicago on a Tuesday, in the morning, in a Toyota Camry! | Oct 09 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | *Ralph Wiggums voice* HAHA! I'm in danger! | Oct 09 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, There's a lot of great things about driving an old car that doesn't look too great. | Oct 09 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | Carjackers probably don't want it even though it runs fine. | Oct 09 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | They're on the lookout to steal a beemer and maybe rape the woman driving it too. | Oct 09 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing they like more than slinging dope and chopping cars is putting their dicks where they don't belong. | Oct 09 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | We need a total regime change here. And a stand your ground law. | Oct 09 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | Stallman is absolutely unqualified to speak on this. | Oct 09 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | He doesn't go into the ghetto in Chicago where he'd see firsthand what they'd do to him five seconds later. | Oct 09 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | He just speaks about people who consider arming themselves for their own protection as if we're a bunch of knuckle dragging neanderthals and rubes. | Oct 09 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | I think he's qualified to speak about software, but his social politics are just generally fringe and delusional. | Oct 09 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | He should be more supportive of the police being allowed to do their jobs because the reason Illinois is the #1 state now for legal gun sales is because people here have given up any hope of the police helping them. | Oct 09 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody wants to be the next cop on trial for taking down some black teenager that was flipping them off and waving a gun. | Oct 09 14:37 |
| techrights-news | Outline of #techrights public code, by number of lines and language (new page): gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/sloc.gmi | Oct 09 14:37 |
| techrights-news | #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156594 #TuxMachines | Oct 09 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 14:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I just booted up my older laptop. | Oct 09 14:43 |
| techrights-news | #Programming Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156595 | Oct 09 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 14:43 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't seem to ever get a PC That doesn't have BIOS errors. | Oct 09 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | Linux complains about them loudly, but they're there whether it's Linux or Windows. | Oct 09 14:44 |
| techrights-news | #FSFE and #EEF on Free Software Licensing • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156596 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSFE and EEF on Free Software Licensing | Tux Machines | Oct 09 14:46 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I might write about Debian 11 KDE soon. | Oct 09 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm committing it to the disk on the Yoga 900 ISK 2. | Oct 09 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | It still doesn't automagically scale for hidpi. | Oct 09 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | I think it did under Wayland if you force it to use the Wayland session. | Oct 09 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | But then your scaling settings for X11 will be wrong and it will be too large in the Wayland session. | Oct 09 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | I may try the Plasma Wayland session first before I start screwing around with anything and see if that actually works right now. | Oct 09 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't in Plasma 5.15, but I think Debian 11 has 5.20. | Oct 09 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | Debian doesn't seem to recommend KDE, but they also don't seem to overtly sabotage it like Fedora does. | Oct 09 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | Those Fedora people have gotten pretty stupid. | Oct 09 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | This obsession with "immutable" root file systems just because they saw a Mac doing it blows my mind. | Oct 09 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | Herr derrr, you installed an RPM. You have to restart for the changes to take effect! | Oct 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | Herr derrr, we can be worse than Windows! Derrr! | Oct 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if installing Synaptic Package Manager into KDE would be more trouble than it's worth. | Oct 09 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | If this works out, I mean, I could just change over to KDE on my main laptop easily. | Oct 09 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't know that I want to. | Oct 09 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is sort of hit or miss. | Oct 09 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | They had a really really stable series with KDE 3 and then they gutted it and put out the "Windows Vista of KDE", KDE 4. | Oct 09 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | It was a big pig and nothing worked well. | Oct 09 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | On top of that, it took them forever to reach a point where they could drop all of KDE 3's applications and Qt3. | Oct 09 14:55 |
| MinceR | synaptic used to run just fine on KDE | Oct 09 15:00 |
| MinceR | did they break that too? | Oct 09 15:00 |
| techrights-news | #OpenHardware / #Modding : #Arduino and More • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156597 | Oct 09 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and More | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:00 | |
| techrights-news | #Devices : GNU/Linux on SoCs • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156598 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: GNU/Linux on SoCs | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:00 | |
| techrights-news | #IBM / #RedHat : VodafoneZiggo, ’Open5G’, and More Openwashing • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156599 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: VodafoneZiggo, 'Open5G', and More Openwashing | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156600 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:10 | |
| techrights-news | #Debian GNU/Linux 11.1 "Bullseye" Released with 24 Security Updates and 75 Bug Fixes • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156601 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11.1 "Bullseye" Released with 24 Security Updates and 75 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:10 | |
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| techrights-news | Links 9/10/2021: KDE Frameworks 5.87, Debian GNU/Linux 11.1 Released • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/09/kde-frameworks-5-87/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/09/kde-frameworks-5-87/ | Oct 09 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/10/2021: KDE Frameworks 5.87, Debian GNU/Linux 11.1 Released | Techrights | Oct 09 15:15 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▅▅▅▄▅▃▄▅▆▃▅▃▄▅▄▅▇▇▄▆▅▆▄▆▆▅▆▆▇▅▅▅▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.50 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂█▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 19.06▕ swarm size (avg): 258.19 ⟲ | Oct 09 15:18 |
| techrights-news | Wine 6.19 is out new with more joystick work, more modules converted to PE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156575#comment-31307 | Oct 09 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.19 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:19 | |
| techrights-news | KDE Moves To GitLab-Based CI, Lands More Plasma Wayland Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156586#comment-31308 | Oct 09 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Continuous integraaaaaaation | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:21 | |
| techrights-news | #BSDNow 423: RACK the Stack https://www.bsdnow.tv/423 #bsd #unix | Oct 09 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 423: RACK the Stack | Oct 09 15:24 | |
| techrights-news | It Appears #FUTEX2 Will Land For Linux 5.16 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FUTEX2-Bits-In-Locking-Core ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | Oct 09 15:25 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 phoronix.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 15:25 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FUTEX2-Bits-In-Locking-Core | Oct 09 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It Appears FUTEX2 Will Land For Linux 5.16 - Phoronix | Oct 09 15:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | It Appears FUTEX2 Will Land For Linux 5.16 - Phoronix | Oct 09 15:25 | |
| techrights-news | AMD DisplayPort #Thunderbolt Tunneling driver already available in latest #Linux #kernel patches, USB4 support finally coming in early 2022 - NotebookCheck.net News ⚓ https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-DisplayPort-Thunderbolt-Tunneling-driver-already-available-in-latest-Linux-kernel-patches-USB4-support-finally-coming-in-early-2022.570527.0.html ䷉ #notebookcheck | Oct 09 15:27 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 notebookcheck.net is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 15:27 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-DisplayPort-Thunderbolt-Tunneling-driver-already-available-in-latest-Linux-kernel-patches-USB4-support-finally-coming-in-early-2022.570527.0.html | Oct 09 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD DisplayPort Thunderbolt Tunneling driver already available in latest Linux kernel patches, USB4 support finally coming in early 2022 - NotebookCheck.net News | Oct 09 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | AMD DisplayPort Thunderbolt Tunneling driver already available in latest Linux kernel patches, USB4 support finally coming in early 2022 - NotebookCheck.net News | Oct 09 15:27 | |
| techrights-news | #KDE Ships Frameworks 5.87.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156593#comment-31309 | Oct 09 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.87 Makes Plasma Discover Faster, Improves Support for Kirigami Apps | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:30 | |
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| techrights-news | Mystery solved in #geminiSpace https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007280.html #geminiprotocol | Oct 09 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Tech] A broken server in the wild, tearing down connection when the resource does not exist? | Oct 09 15:34 | |
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| techrights-news | #KDEGear 21.08.2 adds more fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156520#comment-31310 | Oct 09 15:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Gear 21.08.2 Is Out to Improve Dolphin, Okular, Konsole, Gwenview, Kate, and Other Apps | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:45 | |
| techrights-news | Imagine #murdoch #WallStreetJournal or #WSJ actually issuing correction to political #misinformation thty spread, not merely a misspelling https://www.wsj.com/articles/corrections-amplifications-11633728902 | Oct 09 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Corrections & Amplifications - WSJ | Oct 09 15:46 | |
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| techrights-news | What an absolutely dumb thins for former #IBM chief to say https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/10/a-pandemic-is-fundamentally-an-information-problem.html how IBM profits from #covid19 right now: http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ | Oct 09 15:48 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 irvingwb.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 15:48 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/10/a-pandemic-is-fundamentally-an-information-problem.html | Oct 09 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: A Pandemic Is Fundamentally an Information Problem | Oct 09 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights | Oct 09 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/10/a-pandemic-is-fundamentally-an-information-problem.html ) | Oct 09 15:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I got KDE up on my other laptop. | Oct 09 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | It actually uses a fair bit less RAM once installed. | Oct 09 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | A little under 800 MB. | Oct 09 15:50 |
| techrights-news | #ibm tracking people http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/ | Oct 09 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | Techrights | Oct 09 15:51 | |
| techrights-news | #ibm #linuxfoundation #intel and #microsoft : the word "master" is OFFENSIVE!! Stop saying it!!! Today: "Mastering Linux" https://www.pcmag.com/deals/git-your-linux-skills-up-to-snuff-for-less-than-20 | Oct 09 16:03 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 pcmag.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 16:03 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/deals/git-your-linux-skills-up-to-snuff-for-less-than-20 | Oct 09 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Git' Your Linux Skills Up to Snuff for Less Than $20 | PCMag | Oct 09 16:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/deals/git-your-linux-skills-up-to-snuff-for-less-than-20 ) | Oct 09 16:03 | |
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| techrights-news | Another vulnerability in Apache httpd, allowing access outside the site root directory http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156505#comment-31311 | Oct 09 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, Reproducible Builds, and More | Tux Machines | Oct 09 16:05 | |
| techrights-news | With CVE-2021-41773, I'm surprised #microsoft and #billgates - bribed media doesn't call it a "LINUX" security issue, knowing that #apache runs on #gnu #linux most of the time and they love misplacing blame | Oct 09 16:06 |
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| DaemonFC | The Plasma Wayland session still has some issues. | Oct 09 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | It ignores my KDE touchpad settings, and the shutdown menu shifts off and to the left of the screen. :/ | Oct 09 17:40 |
| MinceR | it also has the issue that it's wayland and the issue that it's KDE | Oct 09 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/crime/westmont-man-accused-of-beating-police-officer-attempted-to-take-taser/ | Oct 09 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Westmont man accused of beating police officer; attempted to take taser | WGN-TV | Oct 09 17:44 | |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/man-stabs-apple-store-security-guard-over-mask-dispute-in-manhattan-nypd/ | Oct 09 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Man stabs Apple store security guard over mask dispute in Manhattan: NYPD | WGN-TV | Oct 09 17:44 | |
| DaemonFC | "The suspect remained at large Saturday morning. Police have not yet released a description." | Oct 09 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | Coulter's Law | Oct 09 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | The longer it takes the news to describe the suspect, the higher the odds are that he isn't white. | Oct 09 17:45 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, From my observations, the far-right has almost moved past their hangups with gay men. | Oct 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Even the ones about adopting children. | Oct 09 17:46 |
| MinceR | or that's what they want you to believe | Oct 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading my favorite racist board (I do that sometimes because it's really funny how horrible people are.). | Oct 09 17:47 |
| MinceR | in any case, fidSS created a homoerotophobic law in hungary this year | Oct 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | And they posted a story about two gay men who adopted a black kid and the kid ended up stabbing both of them and getting arrested. | Oct 09 17:47 |
| MinceR | in which they try to make it seem as if gay people were the same as pedophiles | Oct 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | I half expected them to say something about the men. | Oct 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | But all they said was "Well, that'll teach them to adopt a black child. Even with the best upbringing, it stabbed both of them and left them for dead.". | Oct 09 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | And I was left impressed by the fact that not once did they have anything to say about the morality of being gay or anything. | Oct 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | It went on for a couple of pages and nothing like that happened. | Oct 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | it's not like they tend to be consistent anyway | Oct 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | especially when this new love story between the neofascists and the CPC began | Oct 09 17:50 |
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| techrights-news | #HowTo Enable Dark Mode in Web Browser • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156602 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Enable Dark Mode in Web Browser | Tux Machines | Oct 09 18:01 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Democrats are going to have a big problem soon. | Oct 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | The Republican Party has basically moved past the whole gay thing, and without the overt hostility, they may actually start gaining votes. | Oct 09 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | Again, small group, but nearly all voted for the Democrats because it's hard to vote for people who are openly offending you. | Oct 09 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | I think that may partially explain why the Democrats are emptying out the prisons on us and making felons eligible to vote again. | Oct 09 18:03 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: the "republicans" have their own problem -- their party being split into a pro-trump and anti-trump faction | Oct 09 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | https://smbc-comics.com/comic/ai-8 | Oct 09 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - AI | Oct 09 18:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, There wasn't much pushback against him. | Oct 09 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | He kept almost getting what he wanted through the Senate, until he bungled it. | Oct 09 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | He bungled a lot of easy wins. | Oct 09 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | If they really wanted the ACA gone, they should have waited until the last minute to vote on the repeal bill. | Oct 09 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | They knew that McCain had terminal brain cancer with months to live. | Oct 09 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Just wait for him to die and pass the bill by 1 vote. | Oct 09 18:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Budget Reconciliation rules only allow one vote on a subject covered by a budget bill per Senate term | Oct 09 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's designed precisely so they can't keep tweaking the bill and trying again until some version of it barely passes. | Oct 09 18:32 |
| techrights-news | #epo regime has tha audacity to post this junk https://epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20211008.html they're causing disability in their own staff http://techrights.org/2017/04/01/upper-limb-disorder-at-epo/ | Oct 09 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO partners with myAbility Talent Programme for third year running | Oct 09 18:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Sickness of the EPO – Part VII: 40% of EPO Workers Have Upper Limb Disorder (ULD), Battistelli Covers That Up | Techrights | Oct 09 18:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi works nicely on KDE. | Oct 09 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | Even with my web browser open, it uses less RAM than GNOME with nothing running. | Oct 09 18:38 |
| techrights-news | "There is a new application available for Sparkers: Kotatogram Desktop" https://sparkylinux.org/kotatogram-desktop/ #debian #gnu #linux #sparkylinux | Oct 09 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Kotatogram Desktop – SparkyLinux | Oct 09 18:47 | |
| techrights-news | KDE DEVLOG: Understanding Plasma’s Panels - Kockatoo Tube ⚓ https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/me6jgsGwWLUAV1Tt8zBbHG ䷉ #kde #gnu #linux | Oct 09 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | KDE DEVLOG: Understanding Plasma's Panels - Kockatoo Tube | Oct 09 18:48 | |
| techrights-news | Recap of the Hybrid #LibreOffice Conference 2021 in #Hamburg https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/10/08/recap-of-the-hybrid-libreoffice-conference-2021-in-hamburg/ #de #germany #freesw | Oct 09 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Recap of the Hybrid LibreOffice Conference 2021 in Hamburg - The Document Foundation Blog | Oct 09 18:50 | |
| techrights-news | Tongight at midnight #techrights will cover #epo affairs in Luxembourg. #corruption #patenrs #Luxembourg | Oct 09 18:52 |
| techrights-news | How to craft #propaganda : associate #Linux with "malware" (that actually has nothing to do with Linux) and make #backdoors giants like Microsoft look like a bunch of #security professionals; of course this publisher is paid by #Microsoft to do this https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/cyber-security-today-oct-8-2021-new-linux-malware-a-new-hacking-group-and-a-thick-advisory-report-from-microsoft/460100 | Oct 09 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworldcanada.com | Cyber Security Today, Oct. 8, 2021 – New Linux malware, a new hacking group and a thick advisory report from Microsoft | IT World Canada News | Oct 09 18:56 | |
| techrights-news | This is not about #Linux , just as holes in #Adobe #Photoshop are not about #Windows (this is crafty spin and a black PR campaign https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/-fontonlake-malware-family-targets-linux-systems | Oct 09 18:58 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 darkreading.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 18:58 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/-fontonlake-malware-family-targets-linux-systems | Oct 09 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | 'FontOnLake' Malware Family Targets Linux Systems | Oct 09 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 'FontOnLake' Malware Family Targets Linux Systems | Oct 09 18:58 | |
| techrights-news | "It's currently not known how the attackers gain initial access to the network," but they blame #Linux for merely existing inside an already-compromised network. This is lousy journalism or not #journalism at all. It's marketing spam for #ESET https://thehackernews.com/2021/10/researchers-warn-of-fontonlake-rootkit.html | Oct 09 19:00 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 thehackernews.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 19:00 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2021/10/researchers-warn-of-fontonlake-rootkit.html | Oct 09 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Researchers Warn of FontOnLake Rootkit Malware Targeting Linux Systems | Oct 09 19:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Researchers Warn of FontOnLake Rootkit Malware Targeting Linux Systems | Oct 09 19:00 | |
| techrights-news | This isn't about Linux but about #ESET attacking #Linux with FUD, just for shameless self-promotion; they don't even know how attackers get to the systems in the first place https://www.cxotoday.com/press-release/eset-research-uncovers-fontonlake-a-targeted-malware-attacking-linux/ | Oct 09 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cxotoday.com | ESET Research uncovers FontOnLake, a Targeted malware attacking Linux | Oct 09 19:02 | |
| techrights-news | #PostgreSQL puts engineering aside to focus on banning people, in particular people who have 'strong' views on corporations and might "offend" powerful people's feelings. This focuses on gender and nationality, not anything technical or corporate. https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/new-members-of-the-community-code-of-conduct-committee-2322/ | Oct 09 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: New Members of the Community Code of Conduct Committee | Oct 09 19:05 | |
| techrights-news | "The Committee is comprised of 4 women, 3 men, and 0 nonbinary individuals." This focuses on gender, not anything technical or corporate. https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/new-members-of-the-community-code-of-conduct-committee-2322/ | Oct 09 19:07 |
| techrights-news | Creating quotas for "nonbinary individuals" means there's a career incentive to change gender; that can propel people into positions of power just to meet diversity quotas. https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/new-members-of-the-community-code-of-conduct-committee-2322/ | Oct 09 19:08 |
| techrights-news | Criteria that would be more meaningful would be, works or does not work for large monopolist because it is well known what harms #Freesoftware communities the most, based on history https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/new-members-of-the-community-code-of-conduct-committee-2322/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/19/gafam-python/ | Oct 09 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Python’s New Board of Directors Adds 50% Google and 25% Microsoft | Techrights | Oct 09 19:13 | |
| techrights-news | In the case of the #LinuxFoundation , for instance, hiring for "diversity" has not prevented the Board being hijacked by Linux-hostile companies. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | Oct 09 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Oct 09 19:15 | |
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| techrights-news | Sorry to be linking to #zdnet but I want to show how, earlier today, the site posted PURE SPAM under "Linux". THIS IS SPAM. https://www.zdnet.com/article/innovative-technology-is-coming-to-change-linux-in-the-cloud-its-open-for-investment-now/ #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Oct 09 19:21 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 zdnet.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 19:21 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.zdnet.com/article/innovative-technology-is-coming-to-change-linux-in-the-cloud-its-open-for-investment-now/ | Oct 09 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Innovative technology is coming to change Linux in the cloud. It's open for investment now. | ZDNet | Oct 09 19:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Oct 09 19:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Innovative technology is coming to change Linux in the cloud. It's open for investment now. | ZDNet | Oct 09 19:21 | |
| techrights-news | Conflicts of interest noted: "The New Stack is a wholly owned subsidiary of Insight Partners, an investor in the following companies mentioned in this article: MADE. Amazon Web Services and Gitlab are sponsors of The New Stack." https://thenewstack.io/this-week-in-programming-hacktoberfest-goes-opt-in-only/ | Oct 09 19:24 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 thenewstack.io is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 19:24 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/this-week-in-programming-hacktoberfest-goes-opt-in-only/ | Oct 09 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | This Week in Programming: Hacktoberfest Goes Opt-In Only – The New Stack | Oct 09 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | This Week in Programming: Hacktoberfest Goes Opt-In Only – The New Stack | Oct 09 19:24 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So KDE has still not gotten their hidpi support where it should be, although it is much better in the Wayland session. But there's too many bugs in that. | Oct 09 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | I guess this is what you get when you push X11 as the default even though it's abandoned and you're not really maintaining that anymore. | Oct 09 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Neither session really works like it should on hidpi displays. | Oct 09 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | KWin on Wayland is still quite rough and X11 obviously isn't ever going to be fixed. | Oct 09 19:25 |
| MinceR | what is "hidpi support" anyway? pretending that your display is half the resolution and then scaling it up? | Oct 09 19:26 |
| techrights-news | Disabling the Nouveau open-source Nvidia driver to use the proprietary driver in OpenSUSE Leap 15.3 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156604 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Disabling the Nouveau open-source Nvidia driver to use the proprietary driver in OpenSUSE Leap 15.3 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 19:26 | |
| techrights-news | #Security FUD From #ESET Against So-called ’Linux’ • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156603 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security FUD From ESET Against So-called 'Linux' | Tux Machines | Oct 09 19:27 | |
| techrights-news | Debian 11.1 Released With Initial Batch Of Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156601#comment-31312 | Oct 09 19:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11.1 "Bullseye" Released with 24 Security Updates and 75 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 09 19:29 | |
| techrights-news | "The Unleash Your Potential Program provides a #System76 computer to six winners for accelerating the completion of their next project. This week, we interviewed Marquita Wiggins, who is in the early stages of developing her open source Canva alternative, Designy." https://blog.system76.com/post/664398672963960832/marquita-wiggins-is-developing-her-open-source | Oct 09 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.system76.com | System76 Blog — Marquita Wiggins is Developing her Open Source... | Oct 09 19:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Right from the early days of #gmail, I have used it in "basic html view". However, recently it has been coming up in "standard view", and despite trying to set it back to basic html view, persists in coming up in standard view." https://bkhome.org/news/202110/google-forcing-us-to-use-gmail-in-standard-mode.html | Oct 09 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Google forcing us to use gmail in standard mode | Oct 09 19:34 | |
| techrights-news | #zdnet published a lot less in recent months. It's a dying site. Give it a few years before it goes tits-up completely (at the moment #ibm and #microsoft subsidise it to tell lies for them) http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Oct 09 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if KDE has a decent camera application. | Oct 09 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Oct 09 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but why KDE? | Oct 09 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | you mean qt? | Oct 09 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can apt-get install webcamoid | Oct 09 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a very potent application, I do all my videos with it | Oct 09 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | cheese in gnome is far too simple | Oct 09 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gtk-recordmydesktop | Oct 09 19:40 |
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| techrights-news | I'm I’m Now A Distro Maintainer - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mW64pOTP8UU ䷉ #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/09/#latest | Oct 09 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 【Linux From Scratch】I'm Now A Distro Maintainer - Invidious | Oct 09 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Oct 09 19:43 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, KDE needs more investigating. | Oct 09 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | To see if it's worth being on my main laptop. | Oct 09 19:43 |
| techrights-news | #Intel Begins Preparing #Linux #Graphics Driver For Multi-Tile #Hardware - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Preps-Linux-Multi-Tile ䷉ #Phoronix | Oct 09 19:44 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 phoronix.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 19:44 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Preps-Linux-Multi-Tile | Oct 09 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Begins Preparing Linux Graphics Driver For Multi-Tile Hardware - Phoronix | Oct 09 19:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Intel Begins Preparing Linux Graphics Driver For Multi-Tile Hardware - Phoronix | Oct 09 19:44 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't really like software bloat, personally, no matter how good of a computer I use. | Oct 09 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | But more important than RAM consumption is if it will get in my way or not have a feature I need, or will have too many bugs. | Oct 09 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Switching desktops isn't that difficult though. | Oct 09 19:45 |
| techrights-news | #MicrosoftTim writing about #Mozilla becoming hardly better than #Google , its main sponsor (and #Microsoft is of course even worse) https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/08/mozilla_adding_sponsored_search_results/ | Oct 09 19:46 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 theregister.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 19:46 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/08/mozilla_adding_sponsored_search_results/ | Oct 09 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Firefox adding personalised, sponsored search suggestions • The Register | Oct 09 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Firefox adding personalised, sponsored search suggestions • The Register | Oct 09 19:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Debian dumped a few GB of internationalization crap on my KDE desktop system though too. | Oct 09 19:46 |
| techrights-news | #mozilla has turned #firefox into the scene of an accident. It is the managers' fault. http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ | Oct 09 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Today’s Mozilla Management | Techrights | Oct 09 19:47 | |
| DaemonFC | The vact majority of it seemed to be there for LibreOffice language and help packs for languages I don't speak or use. | Oct 09 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | *vast | Oct 09 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I should also see if it wants to remove KDE and X if I ask it to get rid of Firefox. | Oct 09 19:47 |
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| MinceR | https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/25/bofh_2021_episode_9/ | Oct 09 20:03 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 theregister.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 20:03 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/25/bofh_2021_episode_9/ | Oct 09 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | BOFH: Oh for Pete’s sake. Don’t make a spectacle of yourself • The Register | Oct 09 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | BOFH: Oh for Pete’s sake. Don’t make a spectacle of yourself • The Register | Oct 09 20:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just debloated rianne's lapto | Oct 09 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | had 100,000 rss items | Oct 09 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | lowered not to under 1000 | Oct 09 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | kill off snap daemon | Oct 09 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | containd | Oct 09 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | dockerd | Oct 09 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | she added loads of crap | Oct 09 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then it gets slow like windows | Oct 09 20:22 |
| techrights-news | #Robolinux 12.11 is released http://www.robolinux.org/ #gnu #linux | Oct 09 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome to Robolinux.org | Oct 09 20:24 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/wJNEddo.jpeg | Oct 09 20:25 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 imgur.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 20:25 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/wJNEddo.jpeg | Oct 09 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211009192605/https://i.imgur.com/wJNEddo.jpeg ) | Oct 09 20:26 | |
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| techrights-news | Firefox 93 #AVIF support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156410#comment-31313 | Oct 09 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 93 Is Now Available for Download, Finally Enables AVIF Support by Default | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:27 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: The kernel plays a significant role, and although the kernel is pretty fresh in Debian 11, chances are it won’t suit you for some reason. Moreover, the 5.14 kernel contains many changes that are likely to affect Debian for the better. Of the main changes in the 5.14 kernel, we can note improved support for | Oct 09 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://www.itsfoss.net/installing-linux-5-14-kernel-on-debian-11/ | Oct 09 20:30 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 itsfoss.net is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 20:30 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itsfoss.net/installing-linux-5-14-kernel-on-debian-11/ | Oct 09 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Installing Linux 5.14 Kernel on Debian 11 - itsfoss.net | Oct 09 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Installing Linux 5.14 Kernel on Debian 11 - itsfoss.net | Oct 09 20:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, I figured out the touchpad problem in the Wayland session on KDE. | Oct 09 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | You have to configure it _again_ to do tap to click in that session. | Oct 09 20:31 |
| techrights-news | #Kernel: Intel, AMD, and FUTEX2 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156605 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Intel, AMD, and FUTEX2 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:33 | |
| DaemonFC | The Wayland session is rather aggravating | Oct 09 20:41 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156606 #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:41 | |
| DaemonFC | But again, they don't install it by default so I think this must be why. | Oct 09 20:41 |
| techrights-news | techrights-news Firefox 93 #AVIF support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156410#comment-31313 | Oct 09 20:47 |
| techrights-news | Google plans to use regular Linux kernel for Android http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155969#comment-31315 | Oct 09 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Google, Xen, and Mesa | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:48 | |
| techrights-news | #Python Has Become the Most Popular #programming Language, According to TIOBE ⚓ https://linuxiac.com/python-the-most-popular-programming-language/ ䷉ #linuxiac | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/09/#latest | Oct 09 20:49 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 linuxiac.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 20:49 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxiac.com/python-the-most-popular-programming-language/ | Oct 09 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Python Has Become the Most Popular Language, According to TIOBE | Oct 09 20:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Oct 09 20:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211009194939/https://linuxiac.com/python-the-most-popular-programming-language/ ) | Oct 09 20:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | Well, the small icons in the right click menu can be partially fixed in KDE on a hidpi display. | Oct 09 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're set to 16 by default. You can go as high as 22, which isn't big enough, but looks better in the right click menus, without overflowing dialog boxes. | Oct 09 20:57 |
| techrights-news | #Debian -Based Sparky and #EasyOS Updates • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156607 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based Sparky and EasyOS Updates | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:57 | |
| DaemonFC | And my touchpad doesn't resume in the Xorg session. | Oct 09 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Lovely. | Oct 09 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I think curiosity got the better of me on this one. | Oct 09 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | May try Mageia next. | Oct 09 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's kind of depressing that GNOME is the only thing that works right on this. | Oct 09 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | touchpad? | Oct 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. Maybe it's because GNOME doesn't really use X11 anymore. | Oct 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | You can start it up with X11, but it's not intended to be used that way. | Oct 09 21:04 |
| techrights-news | Underpaying people while the rich hoard all the capital https://news.yahoo.com/tech-feels-labor-market-crunch-100017440.html | Oct 09 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Tech feels labor market crunch | Oct 09 21:04 | |
| DaemonFC | Wayland actually fixed so much X11 fuckery on that laptop. Nothing that runs under X11 works right. | Oct 09 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | X11 applications running on XWayland are fine. | Oct 09 21:04 |
| techrights-news | Anti-Linux FUD aplenty. I'm sure #microsoft loves these lies more than it 'loves' Linux. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156603#comment-31316 | Oct 09 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security FUD From ESET Against So-called 'Linux' | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:05 | |
| techrights-news | [Older] #Apache Software Foundation updates Drill for broader SQL queries https://venturebeat.com/2021/09/01/apache-software-foundation-updates-drill-for-broader-sql-queries/ | Oct 09 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apache Software Foundation updates Drill for broader SQL queries | VentureBeat | Oct 09 21:05 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, X11 likes to forget that you have, you know, input devices. | Oct 09 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | On some of the computers I've ran it on, it forgets that there's a screen as soon as the computer comes back from suspend. | Oct 09 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | And the recent Intel graphics drivers work much better on Wayland than X11. | Oct 09 21:07 |
| techrights-news | The Soul of the Movement: 30 Years of Linux (Part 2) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154866#comment-31317 mentioned GNU a lot | Oct 09 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy 30th Birthday, Linux! | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:07 | |
| DaemonFC | There's obviously a lot of baggage in KDE that they're having a hard time getting rid of. | Oct 09 21:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Is opensuse still owned by a troll? | Oct 09 21:08 |
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| techrights-news | 2 decade ago you could say #ZDNet covered news. Now it's SPAM and jokers like, "Is learning how to code hard?" | Oct 09 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | sort of | Oct 09 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't do SUSE | Oct 09 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Debian 11 is OK | Oct 09 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I realise you tinker | Oct 09 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you're out-tinkered it | Oct 09 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe have a spin/go at arch | Oct 09 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | or some arch-based distro | Oct 09 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | "1.4 UEFI—Unified Extensible Firmware Interface REPORT DOCUMENTATION BUG# | Oct 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Prior to installing openSUSE on a system that boots using UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface), you are urgently advised to check for any firmware updates the hardware vendor recommends and, if available, to install such an update. A pre-installation of Windows 8 or later is a strong indication that your system boots using UEFI. | Oct 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Background: Some UEFI firmware has bugs that cause it to break if too much data gets written to the UEFI storage area. However, there is no clear data of how much is “too much”. | Oct 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | openSUSE minimizes the risk by not writing more than the bare minimum required to boot the OS. The minimum means telling the UEFI firmware about the location of the openSUSE boot loader. Upstream Linux kernel features that use the UEFI storage area for storing boot and crash information (pstore) have been disabled by default. Nevertheless, it is recommended to install any firmware updates the hardware vendor recommends." | Oct 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | OpenSUSE admits what a piece of shit uEFI is. | Oct 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Maybe quote them somewhere? | Oct 09 21:13 |
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| schestowitz-TR | you can climb up the hill and fetch very recent versions of things | Oct 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | I like Debian 11 with GNOME, a lot, except they ought to change their package dependencies a little. | Oct 09 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's offensive that I have to have Firefox and removing it will leave a broken system | Oct 09 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can remove it | Oct 09 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | then it might install other things | Oct 09 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Chromium, which is in some ways even more of a fucking disaster than Firefox. | Oct 09 21:17 |
| techrights-news | "Use Collabora Online to edit documents from within the web browser, à la Google Docs and Microsoft 360" https://www.techradar.com/how-to/heres-how-to-setup-your-own-microsoft-365-alternative | Oct 09 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's how to setup your own Microsoft 365 alternative | TechRadar | Oct 09 21:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if ungoogled Chromium counts as provides chromium or if I actually do need to make a dummy package. | Oct 09 21:18 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▇▄▃▆▄▇▆▅▅▁▂▆▄▇▅▅▃▄▁▂▅▅▆▄▃▇▄▆▄▄▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 23.00 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▄▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 4.05▕ swarm size (avg): 258.16 ⟲ | Oct 09 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | As long as Apt thinks I am participating in Browser Fascism, it'll leave me alone. | Oct 09 21:18 |
| techrights-news | #socialcontrolmedia like #facebook contributes to this problem and helps distract from #oligarchy as a risk https://hbr.org/2021/10/how-business-leaders-can-reduce-polarization | Oct 09 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hbr.org | How Business Leaders Can Reduce Polarization | Oct 09 21:18 | |
| DaemonFC | "1.5 UEFI, GPT, and MS-DOS partitions REPORT DOCUMENTATION BUG# | Oct 09 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Together with the EFI/UEFI specification, a new style of partitioning arrived: GPT (GUID Partition Table). This new schema uses globally unique identifiers (128-bit values displayed in 32 hexadecimal digits) to identify devices and partition types. | Oct 09 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Additionally, the UEFI specification also allows legacy MBR (MS-DOS) partitions. The Linux boot loaders (ELILO or GRUB 2) try to automatically generate a GUID for those legacy partitions, and write them to the firmware. Such a GUID can change frequently, causing a rewrite in the firmware. A rewrite consists of two different operations: Removing the old entry and creating a new entry that replaces the first one. | Oct 09 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Modern firmware has a garbage collector that collects deleted entries and frees the memory reserved for old entries. A problem arises when faulty firmware does not collect and free those entries. This can result in a non-bootable system. | Oct 09 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | To work around this problem, convert the legacy MBR partition to GPT." | Oct 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 09 21:24 |
| techrights-news | Conservations we support say, "please h in Facebook!" So sad on so many levels, even referring to a truly malicious company as "community"; yeah, I'm sure the animals are delighted to get "LIKES!" | Oct 09 21:24 |
| techrights-news | #TechRepublic -- a sister site of #zdnet -- is fake 'news'; this is a grotesque FALSE DICHOTOMY, a false choice between two arms of US #surveillance complex and a dangerous trap everyone must avoid. #clowncomputing is for dummies who don't understand tech and are misled by crooked sites like TechRepublic https://www.techrepublic.com/article/analysis-google-workspace-or-microsoft-365/ | Oct 09 21:27 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 techrepublic.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 21:27 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/analysis-google-workspace-or-microsoft-365/ | Oct 09 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Analysis: Google Workspace or Microsoft 365? - TechRepublic | Oct 09 21:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Analysis: Google Workspace or Microsoft 365? - TechRepublic | Oct 09 21:27 | |
| techrights-news | "Human activities — including trawl fishing and the deep-sea mining activities that some companies are beginning to contemplate — weaken the ocean’s sequestration potential." https://www.greenbiz.com/article/sea-change-seafloor-mapping | Oct 09 21:28 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 greenbiz.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 21:28 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.greenbiz.com/article/sea-change-seafloor-mapping | Oct 09 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A sea change for seafloor mapping | Greenbiz | Oct 09 21:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | A sea change for seafloor mapping | Greenbiz | Oct 09 21:28 | |
| techrights-news | All Pythonistas should switch to Go… or okay, maybe just half https://thenextweb.com/news/python-vs-go-syndication #programming | Oct 09 21:31 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 thenextweb.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | All Pythonistas should switch to Go… or okay, maybe just half | Oct 09 21:31 | |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenextweb.com/news/python-vs-go-syndication | Oct 09 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211009203137/https://thenextweb.com/news/python-vs-go-syndication ) | Oct 09 21:31 | |
| schestowitz | "One of those projects we’ve been hearing about for years. I think most distributions still default to ext4 – except for Fedora." | Oct 09 21:33 |
| schestowitz | https://www.osnews.com/story/133987/examining-btrfs-linuxs-perpetually-half-finished-filesystem/ | Oct 09 21:33 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 osnews.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 21:33 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/133987/examining-btrfs-linuxs-perpetually-half-finished-filesystem/ | Oct 09 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Examining btrfs, Linux’s perpetually half-finished filesystem – OSnews | Oct 09 21:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Examining btrfs, Linux’s perpetually half-finished filesystem – OSnews | Oct 09 21:33 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz> "One of those projects we’ve been hearing about for years. I think most distributions still default to ext4 – except for Fedora." | Oct 09 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: the jab works | Oct 09 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | very well | Oct 09 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | OpenSUSE switched to BtrFS, then Fedora did. | Oct 09 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2000 deaths in US yesterday, not counting FL | Oct 09 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | FL not reporting | Oct 09 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu switched to ZFS I think. | Oct 09 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | leave aside SUS | Oct 09 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | SUSE and OpenSUSE are dead ends | Oct 09 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to push people towards communities | Oct 09 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | make Linux grassroots agsin | Oct 09 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the way it is going, we get androids and chrome | Oct 09 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that OpenSUSE was making bizarre development decisions, even more than Fedora does. | Oct 09 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | with imposed gmail accounts | Oct 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Mageia is fine to recommend, I think. | Oct 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't have any experience with it. | Oct 09 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and lots of crap that accomplished nothing significant | Oct 09 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | mageia would be OK | Oct 09 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you look for tinkering | Oct 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Assuming it works okay. | Oct 09 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I doubt it'll be any better than debian | Oct 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it seems to have picked the same versions of most of the components as Debian 11 did. | Oct 09 21:39 |
| techrights-news | #AlmaLinux OS Foundation Membership Opens to the Public http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156472#comment-31320 | Oct 09 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RHEL Clones: CentOS Latest and AlmaLinux Foundation | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:40 | |
| DaemonFC | But it kept the Mandriva kernel scheme where you can switch to different kernels. | Oct 09 21:41 |
| techrights-news | Top 10 In-Demand #Programming Language that Will Rule in 2021 https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-in-demand-programming-language-that-will-rule-in-2021/ | Oct 09 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.analyticsinsight.net | Top 10 In-Demand Programming Language that Will Rule in 2021 | Oct 09 21:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Like Linux-Next, RT, the Zen Kernel, or one optimized for servers. | Oct 09 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | The server ones were mostly optimized for maximum performance at the expense of responsiveness, and the realtime kernels were kind of the other way around. | Oct 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | It made more difference in the 2.6 series. | Oct 09 21:42 |
| techrights-news | "During the dot-com boom, the technology contender for e-money was eCash from DigiCash, and this CBDC design is based on the ideas of its founder David Chaum and the successor to eCash, the open source #GNU Taler." https://www.ledgerinsights.com/a-digital-dollar-cbdc-may-use-this-privacy-preserving-design/ | Oct 09 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ledgerinsights.com | A digital dollar CBDC may use this privacy preserving design - Ledger Insights - enterprise blockchain | Oct 09 21:45 | |
| techrights-news | #Ubuntu -based Pop!_OS Spotted on Raspberry Pi • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156608 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu-based Pop!_OS Spotted on Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:51 | |
| techrights-news | 5 months later #liberachat reaches 50k users -- nowhere near the 90k users that old #freenode had. Likely just a net loss for #irc https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=Libera.Chat | Oct 09 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Oct 09 21:55 | |
| techrights-news | #patents #patent mmonopolies #covid19 #grifting https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/11/coronavirus-drug-ridgeback-biotherapeutics/ | Oct 09 22:01 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 washingtonpost.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 22:01 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/11/coronavirus-drug-ridgeback-biotherapeutics/ | Oct 09 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Financial speculation surrounding coronavirus drug developed with taxpayer money - The Washington Post | Oct 09 22:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Financial speculation surrounding coronavirus drug developed with taxpayer money - The Washington Post | Oct 09 22:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | wow, bezospost uses clownflare | Oct 09 22:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | aws not gooe enough? | Oct 09 22:01 |
| techrights-news | #upc as in #unitarypatent or #unifiedpatentcourt is dead, but there's this other UPC :-) https://benonicitytimes.co.za/423755/a-history-of-barcodes-a-revolution-that-took-20-years-to-happen/ | Oct 09 22:03 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 benonicitytimes.co.za is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 22:03 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://benonicitytimes.co.za/423755/a-history-of-barcodes-a-revolution-that-took-20-years-to-happen/ | Oct 09 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benonicitytimes.co.za | A history of barcodes - a revolution that took 20 years to happen | Benoni City Times | Oct 09 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | A history of barcodes - a revolution that took 20 years to happen | Benoni City Times | Oct 09 22:03 | |
| techrights-news | "he UPC project is designed to establish dedicated payment" = another #upc which unlike #unitarypatent or #unifiedpatentcourt is not dead. So... UPC isn't dead :-) except the #patent one https://cointelegraph.com/news/visa-working-on-blockchain-interoperability-hub-for-crypto-payments | Oct 09 22:05 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 cointelegraph.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 22:05 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cointelegraph.com/news/visa-working-on-blockchain-interoperability-hub-for-crypto-payments | Oct 09 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cointelegraph.com | Visa working on blockchain interoperability hub for crypto payments | Oct 09 22:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Visa working on blockchain interoperability hub for crypto payments | Oct 09 22:05 | |
| techrights-news | Hoarding #patents on life and on nature visa #crispr loopholes and #lobbying https://www.law360.com/pulse/articles/1424161/mammoth-s-new-gc-on-biotech-startups-challenges-crispr #patent #monopolies | Oct 09 22:07 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 law360.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 22:07 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/pulse/articles/1424161/mammoth-s-new-gc-on-biotech-startups-challenges-crispr | Oct 09 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mammoth's New GC On Biotech Startups Challenges, CRISPR - Law360 | Oct 09 22:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Mammoth's New GC On Biotech Startups Challenges, CRISPR - Law360 | Oct 09 22:08 | |
| techrights-news | #hogwash from greedy #patent lawyers, not even disproving the title but rather deflecting and lying, distorting what's actually happening. Public funds the work, public then forced to pay trillions to few grifters with not-so-good product. https://www.mondaq.com/italy/patent/1108542/are-patents-to-blame-for-scarcity-of-vaccines | Oct 09 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Are Patents To Blame For Scarcity Of Vaccines? - Intellectual Property - Italy | Oct 09 22:09 | |
| techrights-news | Making a #patent #pyramidscheme and then treating it like a marvel of humanity https://www.mondaq.com/austria/patent/1108300/patents-on-nft-no-nft-on-patents- | Oct 09 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Patents On NFT? No, NFT On Patents! - Intellectual Property - Austria | Oct 09 22:11 | |
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| techrights-news | Disguising #softwarepatents as "Hey Hi" again, as usual... the new loopholes riding the wave of #buzzwords and hype https://www.natlawreview.com/article/patent-protection-ai-inventions #swpats | Oct 09 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Artificial Intelligence Invention Patent Protection Trends | Oct 09 22:13 | |
| techrights-news | In courts, #swpats are still mostly worthless https://www.natlawreview.com/article/transaction-authentication-claims-using-known-computer-components-are-patent | Oct 09 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Federal Circuit Affirms Credit Card Security Patent Decision | Oct 09 22:14 | |
| techrights-news | "Smart"? What did this SUV score in the SATs? https://carbuzz.com/news/smart-suvs-production-design-leaked-in-patent-filings #buzzwords #crap #patents | Oct 09 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smart SUV's Production Design Leaked In Patent Filings | CarBuzz | Oct 09 22:17 | |
| techrights-news | No, this is not what #patents and exclusivity are assured to do; they're just misleading shareholders https://www.kktv.com/prnewswire/2021/10/06/valqari-secures-position-drone-delivery-industry-leader-with-new-us-patent/ | Oct 09 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kktv.com | Valqari Secures Position as Drone Delivery Industry Leader with New U.S. Patent | Oct 09 22:19 | |
| techrights-news | #patentTroll #sisvel still active and #patent #litigation fanatics are loving it http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/08/patent-case-sisvel-int-s-a-vs-shenzhen-tinno-and-wiko-sas-netherlands/ | Oct 09 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent case: Sisvel Int. S.A. vs. Shenzhen Tinno and Wiko SAS, Netherlands - Kluwer Patent Blog | Oct 09 22:20 | |
| techrights-news | We Can Shut Down Crimes Exposed in the Pandora Papers ⚓ https://theintercept.com/2021/10/05/pandora-papers-offshore-tax-havens/ ䷉ #theintercept owner is #omidyar -- how much in taxes does HE pay? | Oct 09 22:32 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 theintercept.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 22:32 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2021/10/05/pandora-papers-offshore-tax-havens/ | Oct 09 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | We Can Shut Down Crimes Exposed in the Pandora Papers | Oct 09 22:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | We Can Shut Down Crimes Exposed in the Pandora Papers | Oct 09 22:32 | |
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| techrights-news | Go back, go back, go away https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58793174 #socialcontrolmedia #polarization #zuckerberg #facebook #evil | Oct 09 22:33 |
| altlink_48f | 📣 bbc.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 22:33 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58793174 | Oct 09 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook, Whatsapp and Instagram back after outage - BBC News | Oct 09 22:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Facebook, Whatsapp and Instagram back after outage - BBC News | Oct 09 22:33 | |
| techrights-news | Wow. #bbc has outsourced itself to #clownflare ... #billgates and British taxpayers pay for that site (the former for self-serving propaganda or silence about his crimes) and then they serve pages from AN AMERICAN SPYING COMPANY. NOT ACCEPTABLE. | Oct 09 22:35 |
| techrights-news | Sad to say this, but half the time it feels like RMS Web site is an 'ad' for #billgates #astroturfing site 'guardian'. Need more source diversity... I told him a decade ago already. | Oct 09 22:36 |
| techrights-news | Compress Your SVGs, Save Space With #SVGCleaner - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b8I3c7NdLsQ ䷉ #video #invidious | Oct 09 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Compress Your SVGs, Save Space With SVGCleaner - Invidious | Oct 09 22:37 | |
| techrights-news | Seems apt they have put #chrome logo on plain red flag like Soviey Union or China because it's Orwellian #spyware https://www.maketecheasier.com/chrome-flags-better-browsing-experience/ | Oct 09 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 12 Chrome Flags to Boost Your Browsing - Make Tech Easier | Oct 09 22:39 | |
| techrights-news | #freesw wins not when all people move from #microsoft to #google (or Microsoft to Apple for that matter) but when we make gains on freedom. For that matter, #linux is not enough either. http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/ | Oct 09 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Freedom is Not Linux | Techrights | Oct 09 22:40 | |
| techrights-news | About an hour from now, as scheduled, #techrights will publish the #Luxembourg series. #epo #corruption | Oct 09 22:41 |
| techrights-news | Very inefficient way to boil up a cuppa' :/ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/09/making-coffee-with-hydrogen/ | Oct 09 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Making Coffee With Hydrogen | Hackaday | Oct 09 22:45 | |
| techrights-news | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156609 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: | Tux Machines | Oct 09 22:46 | |
| techrights-news | "The open source world and Chinese manufacturing have a long relationship. Some fifteen years ago, the big topic was how companies could open-source their hardware designs and not get driven bankrupt by competition from overseas." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/09/hackers-and-china/ | Oct 09 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackers And China | Hackaday | Oct 09 22:48 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156610 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 09 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 09 22:48 | |
| techrights-news | The front page is outdated. #RedoRescue 4.0.0 has just been released. http://redorescue.com/ #gnu #linux #lxde | Oct 09 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-redorescue.com | Redo Rescue: Backup and Recovery Made Easy | Bare metal restore | Oct 09 22:50 | |
| techrights-news | We Built A Giant Flying Boat - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eRcoZniSOkc&t=36s ䷉ #video #invidious #3dprinting | Oct 09 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | We Built A Giant Flying Boat - Invidious | Oct 09 22:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Would you call Manjaro a community distribution? | Oct 09 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that they seem to care much about Free Software, but is there a corporation behind it? | Oct 09 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Or seedy characters. | Oct 09 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not the official one | Oct 09 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a bunch of hipsters perhaps | Oct 09 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you moan about some software freedom-related thing, they won't listen to you | Oct 09 23:14 |
| techrights-news | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part VII: Luxembourgish Laxity http://techrights.org/2021/10/09/luxembourg-dog-ate-my-homework/ #Luxembourg #epp #corruption #europe #patents | Oct 09 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part VII: Luxembourgish Laxity | Techrights | Oct 09 23:14 | |
| DaemonFC | If you pop Flatpak's GNOME Software plugin into it, it will start advertising proprietary software, even in Debian. | Oct 09 23:14 |
| MinceR | it's a systemd distribution so it wishes it was fedora | Oct 09 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | That is a problem. I wish there was some way to suppress this. | Oct 09 23:14 |
| MinceR | so who cares who's behind it | Oct 09 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: flatpak is a systemd vector | Oct 09 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's IBM inside your OS | Oct 09 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they told me years ago they would remove this dep | Oct 09 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe they did for a whole | Oct 09 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Some of my applications are Flatpaks and some are Debian packages. | Oct 09 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but now it's a hard dep across distros | Oct 09 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Some are Windows programs that I managed to get working in Wine. | Oct 09 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | so flatpak is 'universal' and 'inclusive'... as long as you submit to IBM | Oct 09 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Most of that is old video games and foobar2000. | Oct 09 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: try to move to free sw | Oct 09 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | foobar is proprietary | Oct 09 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's always a hodgepodge and I agree that without Wine, GNU/Linux would be in more trouble. | Oct 09 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the goal it to eliminate crap software | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | wine might run office ok, I've never tried that | Oct 09 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Because if you tell people none of their favorite stuff is likely to run, then it's a non-starter. | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it would be missing the point | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: right | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you started with vivaldi | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I said, try falkon | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you try? | Oct 09 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | It wants to dump a bunch of KDE crap everywhere. | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | falkon is VERY community-oriented | Oct 09 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they do not collect any data | Oct 09 23:18 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▂▅▄▅▄▇▅▅▃▄▆▆▄▂▆▃▆▅▆▇█▅▆▇▅▅▅▆▂▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 29.05 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▂▁▂█▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁█▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 23.58▕ swarm size (avg): 258.16 ⟲ | Oct 09 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | There's no flatpak for it. | Oct 09 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: I reckon you already had lots of KDE/qt to begin with | Oct 09 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'd normally try something like this in flatpak so it didn't spew a mess everywhere. | Oct 09 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't use flatpak | Oct 09 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | flatpak sucks | Oct 09 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless there is no other choice | Oct 09 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | No, I converted all of the KDE and Qt applications to Flatpak. | Oct 09 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | There aren't many. | Oct 09 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | VLC and QBittorrent. | Oct 09 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | re vlc | Oct 09 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | The two absolute must haves that have no GTK+ equivalent. | Oct 09 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | what do you use it for? | Oct 09 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I stopped using vlc most of the time | Oct 09 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | mpv is good | Oct 09 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | parole | Oct 09 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | audaciuous | Oct 09 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | (for sound) | Oct 09 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I consider Qt software to be non-native. | Oct 09 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | It does function, but it's like, totally alien to the GNOME desktop in how it works. | Oct 09 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | vlc is free sw, but I like simpler things for simpler tasks | Oct 09 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are hooked on old habits | Oct 09 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | I lump it in with like Windows software in Wine. Like, ugh, Qt. | Oct 09 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | This again. | Oct 09 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | And it wants to dump software with known vulnerabilities on my computer. How nice. | Oct 09 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to avoid qt | Oct 09 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | might as well surrender to it and put falkon in | Oct 09 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | kate is a fine editor | Oct 09 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody is maintaining QtWebkit now. | Oct 09 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the gnome ones are nowhere near in functionality | Oct 09 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | It's just piling up CVEs and nobody that I am aware of is fixing it. | Oct 09 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | qtwebengineprocess | Oct 09 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has turned into Windows in a number of ways, I mean, it's not proprietary, it's not stuffed full of spyware. | Oct 09 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have ~12 such processes right now | Oct 09 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | konqueror and falkon | Oct 09 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | But it's buggy and kind of bitrotting and it has three web engines now. | Oct 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | firefox spwans "Web" | Oct 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "Privileged" | Oct 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | "WebExtension" | Oct 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and RDD | Oct 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | wth is RDD? | Oct 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1.7mb of ram | Oct 09 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it does have the sandbox, which tries to check its privilege. | Oct 09 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ :) | Oct 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | one tab of firefox, 400mb of ram | Oct 09 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | tragedy. | Oct 09 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi is just cranking out releases one after another. | Oct 09 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Putting in tons of features. | Oct 09 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Using less RAM for 100 tabs than Firefox uses for 20. | Oct 09 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's proprietary | Oct 09 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't use firefox | Oct 09 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | The problem here is that Firefox is basically dead in the water. | Oct 09 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | bad yardstick | Oct 09 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | They shit all over it now and it's a corpse. | Oct 09 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | mozilla is a political party that wears firefox on its sleeve | Oct 09 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's a corpse that they shit on. | Oct 09 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a modern web browser. | Oct 09 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's not even an efficient one. | Oct 09 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | And it isn't Free. | Oct 09 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | And damn Debian for putting it in there anyway. | Oct 09 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not anymore, not fully | Oct 09 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway,. try falkon | Oct 09 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | And triple damn whoever made "gnome" depend on it. | Oct 09 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | or palemoon | Oct 09 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | They could have iceweaseled it again. | Oct 09 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | fore what? | Oct 09 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ripped out the spam and spyware and trash and drm. | Oct 09 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | trademarks? | Oct 09 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | they made firefox-esr | Oct 09 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla insists on those or you can't call it Firefox. | Oct 09 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | So rip it all out and don't call it Firefox. | Oct 09 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Tear it all down until the only parts left are FOSS. | Oct 09 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid some of the unwanted crap, feature churn, and version inflation | Oct 09 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, well, they could take the Firefox ESR code and build it as IceWeasel with none of the garbage. | Oct 09 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | They can even patch out Clownflare like OpenBSD does. | Oct 09 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian 10 says version of firefox 78 is now ready | Oct 09 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Someone needs to either correct this or dump it. | Oct 09 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Debian 11 has Firefox 78.15. | Oct 09 23:27 |
| MinceR | 10 001713 < DaemonFC> Because if you tell people none of their favorite stuff is likely to run, then it's a non-starter. | Oct 09 23:27 |
| MinceR | telling people to switch to GNU/Linux is what landed us in this mess, with systemd | Oct 09 23:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am updating my system now | Oct 09 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | The upside to this is a lot of the stuff people run today is on the web anyway. | Oct 09 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Which is a problem, but not as big a one as Microsoft. | Oct 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | no idea why it pushes apache2 to my laptop | Oct 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | also mariadb | Oct 09 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's whole goal is to patent tens of thousands of things. | Oct 09 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Then say nobody else can use those things because it violates their imaginary property. | Oct 09 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Then 20 years later, you can finally use subpixel font antialiasing and MP3s, right in time for them to become irrelevant. | Oct 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | [23:27] <MinceR> telling people to switch to GNU/Linux is what landed us in this mess, with systemd | Oct 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | untrue | Oct 09 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | You know, that's how the patents work, and that's what they're meant to do. | Oct 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM did not make it for mass adoption by 'ples' | Oct 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, I meant slaves | Oct 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it made systemd because LP wants to control more units of the system | Oct 09 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | The patents are equal parts stall tactics to hamstring competition and a lawyer-based attack to steal money from other companies and people. | Oct 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I imagine ibm pays him 200k/year | Oct 09 23:30 |
| *activelow is fighting with gnome/gtk/x11 dependency hell currently | Oct 09 23:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM: say slavs | Oct 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | not slaves | Oct 09 23:30 |
| MinceR | attracting the sort of idiot that develops for windows to GNU/Linux is what resulted in all these crap designs and all this crap code | Oct 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | slaves is racism | Oct 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | slavs is not | Oct 09 23:30 |
| MinceR | and the idiot users helped justify it | Oct 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | even though many slaves exist outside the racial context | Oct 09 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Well, schestowitz-TR is using KDE apparently, and they already have a lot of bugs. | Oct 09 23:30 |
| MinceR | "if it's like windows, it's modern, and that's what everyone's goal should be" | Oct 09 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's impossible to properly debug something that has thousands of possible combinations of options. | Oct 09 23:31 |
| *activelow wouldn't recommend KDE either | Oct 09 23:31 | |
| DaemonFC | If you use it this way, no bug! | Oct 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | You use it that way, bug! | Oct 09 23:31 |
| MinceR | it's actually possible to properly debug it, if it's properly designed | Oct 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | not true, ime | Oct 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | And you can't necessarily, easily, describe what to do to make the bug happen. | Oct 09 23:31 |
| MinceR | separate the parts from each other properly, then you can test them separately | Oct 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's partially why KDE is a mess. | Oct 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: which ver did you last try? | Oct 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the 5.20+ versions are very fine and stable | Oct 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | hardly even visual bugs | Oct 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | And part of that is that they did this splitting of the "frameworks" and "desktop" and "applications. | Oct 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | i don't think i've heard anyone complain that, say, shells or CLI tools are impossible to debug because there's an infinite number of possible shell scripts. | Oct 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Which is fucking crazy because nobody wants it like that. | Oct 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: 4.3, probably | Oct 09 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | they aim at mobile, too | Oct 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | that's when i got sick of KDE | Oct 09 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a big market | Oct 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | And then there's a million ways to jam it together and they say they support them all, but come on. | Oct 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | and i got sick of waiting for them to unfuck what worked properly in 3.5 | Oct 09 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: yes, that one still sucked | Oct 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | and then they announced 5.x would depend on systemd | Oct 09 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | gentoo removes that | Oct 09 23:33 |
| MinceR | at this point, i don't expect the KDE project to survive for long | Oct 09 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Oh I remember when Fedora pushed an update that completely broke logging out and shutting down. | Oct 09 23:33 |
| MinceR | http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ | Oct 09 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-islinuxaboutchoice.com | Is Linux About Choice? | Oct 09 23:33 | |
| MinceR | reminder: these people control systemd, gnome and systemd distributions | Oct 09 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | And I had to use shutdown now from a terminal until Kevin Kofler wrote a patch to have systemd-logind handle it. | Oct 09 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's good we all disagree so much | Oct 09 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it means we have many variants | Oct 09 23:33 |
| MinceR | getting to choose gnome vs KDE is a choice, and therefore it's going away | Oct 09 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's hard to undermine | Oct 09 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | canonical, suse, and ibm can go under | Oct 09 23:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we still have working systems | Oct 09 23:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | google will still do its crap with chromeos | Oct 09 23:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we can ignore them | Oct 09 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Think GNOME will survive IBM and Canonical collapsing? | Oct 09 23:34 |
| MinceR | oh, also, the above people also control KDE via systemd | Oct 09 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Eh, I guess it was around before them. | Oct 09 23:34 |
| MinceR | and via proprietarydesktop.org | Oct 09 23:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the workers will still hack on them | Oct 09 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Early GNOME was still kind of a hacker's plaything. | Oct 09 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe in another company like blue systemd | Oct 09 23:35 |
| MinceR | hacking on gnome isn't going to fix gnome's design | Oct 09 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Then people came along from the corporate world and "sponsored" them to do this to it. | Oct 09 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnome is not for me | Oct 09 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people like gnome, i'm ok with that | Oct 09 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | So in some ways we're better off and some ways we're not. | Oct 09 23:35 |
| MinceR | i don't see how we could possibly be better off with macOSesque gnome vs actually usable gnome | Oct 09 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the meantime windows is going nowhere | Oct 09 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | I always end up installing GNOME. | Oct 09 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | SP version inflations | Oct 09 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has SO MANY BUGS. | Oct 09 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now many moan that vista11 isn't working | Oct 09 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | It's just you never know what will break next. | Oct 09 23:36 |
| MinceR | i always end up installing fvwm | Oct 09 23:36 |
| MinceR | or icewm | Oct 09 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | or brings major slowdowns and nothing else | Oct 09 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I expected a LOT more of a media blitz | Oct 09 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe even Microsoft's marketing (bribe) budget has run thin | Oct 09 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Windows 11 is a disaster and they try to scream over what's actually going on. Installation failures and "bugs" that make fast computers that are supposed to run it fine slower than hell. | Oct 09 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I literally opened rss reader, put windows in filter, prepared to see spam, found almost nonse | Oct 09 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | I think that GNOME has improved a lot in the past few years. | Oct 09 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did tons of press spamming when there was a fake 'leak' | Oct 09 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then 'build' | Oct 09 23:37 |
| MinceR | maybe the redmond mafia spread itself too thin | Oct 09 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of vapourware back then | Oct 09 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Like, literally the Shell alone used to leak until it was taking up over a GB of memory all by itself. | Oct 09 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | not this past week | Oct 09 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Lately, it hasn't been leaking. | Oct 09 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | They trimmed it down a lot. | Oct 09 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: good that you like gnome | Oct 09 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you want awesome coding editor, kate | Oct 09 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | decent browser, falkon | Oct 09 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | family-friendly | Oct 09 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | GEdit has syntax highlighting. | Oct 09 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people just want ubuntu+gnome+chromium+MS Minecraft | Oct 09 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to lead them away from those | Oct 09 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Steam also | Oct 09 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: when I last tried Gedit it lacked the features of kate... that's an understatement | Oct 09 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnome keeps things too simple for me | Oct 09 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I even install kate inside gnome | Oct 09 23:40 |
| MinceR | or we need to leave them there so the corporations that are trying to kill off computing will be busy making those suck even harder | Oct 09 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and qupzilla | Oct 09 23:40 |
| MinceR | instead of trying to take down the next OS | Oct 09 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have parallel OSes | Oct 09 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | sucky Linuxes | Oct 09 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hacker Linuxes | Oct 09 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | Last time I used Kate, I couldn't even use the spell checker for some reason. | Oct 09 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the latter sometimes lack systemDehomag | Oct 09 23:40 |
| MinceR | there's one Linux and its days are numbered | Oct 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | then you have android and crhomeos | Oct 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not so interested in them | Oct 09 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like post-qupzilla it turned into let's just jam dependencies on KDE in here that it never needed before. | Oct 09 23:41 |
| MinceR | Linus is on a leash, the other developers don't care or have already departed | Oct 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they kill off Microsoft's air supply | Oct 09 23:41 |
| MinceR | there's an SMB server in the kernel | Oct 09 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | Because fuck everyone who wants to use this and doesn't have KDE. | Oct 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: it's a KDE browser | Oct 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | with builds for other OSes | Oct 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the monolithic way | Oct 09 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use almost all kde features | Oct 09 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Well, even within a GNU/Linux distribution, different desktop environments in some ways are _almost_ like their own operating systems. | Oct 09 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so falkon intergrates well | Oct 09 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: those are the biggest component of the OS | Oct 09 23:42 |
| MinceR | yeah, for example gnome doesn't want your applications to work anywhere else | Oct 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | the application and presentation | Oct 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | linux is mostly simple crap and drivers | Oct 09 23:43 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/pYuj8tW | Oct 09 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Oct 09 23:43 | |
| altlink_48f | 📣 imgur.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 09 23:43 |
| altlink_48f | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/pYuj8tW | Oct 09 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Oct 09 23:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of stuff plugged into linux, but it's just another kernel | Oct 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnu is lots of glue below the applications | Oct 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | KDE IS the OS | Oct 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the distro is the OS | Oct 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and its face is the DE | Oct 09 23:44 |
| MinceR | KDE is a poorly tolerated mod for the GNOME OS | Oct 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they use similar services | Oct 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's just decent arhitecture | Oct 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | like CUPS | Oct 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | no need to split those | Oct 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM is dying fast enough to not eradicate alternative init systems | Oct 09 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Debian has alternatives like Devuan and Heads | Oct 09 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | so in effect there are already some alternatives in place, and many people use these... | Oct 09 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Snap is failing | Oct 09 23:45 |
| MinceR | systemd is a component of GNOME OS | Oct 09 23:45 |
| MinceR | KDE people love it | Oct 09 23:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | flatpak is not succeeding either | Oct 09 23:46 |
| activelow | systemd is one issue among many others with graphical desktop components | Oct 09 23:46 |
| MinceR | heads hasn't been updated in ages | Oct 09 23:46 |
| MinceR | devuan doesn't have the manpower to build an openssh-server that doesn't depend on libsystemd0 | Oct 09 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know I'm pessimistic, but I am an optimist about the future of this OS because the proprietary ones are not able to sustain themselves | Oct 09 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they collapse under their own weight and complexity | Oct 09 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | apps and "mobiles" are a bloody joke | Oct 09 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're technically computers | Oct 09 23:47 |
| MinceR | there are other free OS-es | Oct 09 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a theormostate is | Oct 09 23:47 |
| MinceR | actually free, not puppeted around by dehomag and the redmond mafia | Oct 09 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | if your life it about uploading selifies and pressing likes on made-up 'news' | Oct 09 23:48 |
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| schestowitz-TR | openssh-server does not need systemd | Oct 09 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | openssh-server is cross platform | Oct 09 23:48 |
| activelow | there is some other weird dependency graphs, for SVG/icons, cairo vector graphics | Oct 09 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | heads was more like proof of concept | Oct 09 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can re-emerge any time | Oct 09 23:49 |
| activelow | the code paths for directfb have been deactivated everywhere | Oct 09 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, there's been GNU/Solaris and GNU/BSD. | Oct 09 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | And even GNU/Darwin. | Oct 09 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is hurb/debian 11 | Oct 09 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and almost nobody mentioned it | Oct 09 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | There still is a Pure Darwin OS I think. | Oct 09 23:50 |
| activelow | next escalation: GTK4 depends on opengl-renderer presence, with it clang/llvm monstrosity, and almost always proprietary GPU | Oct 09 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | hurd doesn't do systemd | Oct 09 23:50 |
| activelow | gtk1/2 didn't require any of this | Oct 09 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's the Darwin kernel with GNU on top and I think it runs GNOME and KDE. | Oct 09 23:50 |
| MinceR | 10 004843 < schestowitz-TR> openssh-server does not need systemd | Oct 09 23:50 |
| MinceR | debian's package of it, however, does | Oct 09 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have lots of kernels now | Oct 09 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | linux has the most devices drivers | Oct 09 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | *device | Oct 09 23:50 |
| MinceR | 10 005008 < schestowitz-TR> hurd doesn't do systemd | Oct 09 23:50 |
| MinceR | yet. | Oct 09 23:50 |
| activelow | the DRI/DRM graphics stack poisons kernel too... thing is graphical desktop did NOT need any proprietary "acceleration" for decades | Oct 09 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | HURD Herp Uhhh RRRRRP DERP. | Oct 09 23:51 |
| MinceR | they're working on it | Oct 09 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can get momentum | Oct 09 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | HURD doesn't do much except crash a lot. | Oct 09 23:51 |
| MinceR | it will get workse | Oct 09 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | if LF pisses off enough kerner hackers and pentagon 'tech' companies go under | Oct 09 23:51 |
| MinceR | s/ks/s/ | Oct 09 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the US as a whole is going the way of the dodo | Oct 09 23:51 |
| MinceR | Linux kernel hackers aren't doing shit | Oct 09 23:51 |
| MinceR | if they cared, they would have forked Linux already | Oct 09 23:51 |
| activelow | i think i can reactivate gtk2+directfb | Oct 09 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> the US as a whole is going the way of the dodo | Oct 09 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Why are you laughing? You're 20 years ahead of us. | Oct 09 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: they need many others to have similar motivations | Oct 09 23:52 |
| activelow | and then check, what's available with gtk2 | Oct 09 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: mjg59_ tried to 'fork' linux in MS github | Oct 09 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | kernel.org not proprietary enough for him | Oct 09 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | China's economy got bigger than yours not that long after the Hong Kong handover. | Oct 09 23:52 |
| activelow | didn't some projects fork gnome because of gtk3? | Oct 09 23:52 |
| activelow | mate desktop iirc | Oct 09 23:52 |
| MinceR | garrettux wouldn't have gotten rid of the CoC, nor of corporate control | Oct 09 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | It took it another 21 years to overtake the total size of ours. | Oct 09 23:52 |
| MinceR | it was an attempt to enforce both | Oct 09 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | But Purchasing Power Parity is about 5 times lower. | Oct 09 23:53 |
| MinceR | but now hartmanux does it all | Oct 09 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are already forks of gnome2 | Oct 09 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | no need for more | Oct 09 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need to deletegithub though | Oct 09 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Also, a lot of their growth is fake. | Oct 09 23:53 |
| MinceR | gnome2 was forked, but it was pointless, as gnome2 was already crap | Oct 09 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | They're starting to have those old age colony problems of Japan and those US-like banking and real estate scandals spilling out. | Oct 09 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe they're in trouble too? Lots of decaying infrastructure that was built by communists. | Oct 09 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | Fast and cheap and now damns burst and kill thousands in one go. | Oct 09 23:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | in US | Oct 09 23:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | not in china | Oct 09 23:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe in china too | Oct 09 23:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | US ir rotting away | Oct 09 23:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | detroit ahead of the curve | Oct 09 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the US is. | Oct 09 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | It's really unfair to judge the entire country by a dying region. | Oct 09 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | 22 billion dollars for HOLOLENS | Oct 09 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | for supposed 'army' contract | Oct 09 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | The midwest is doing badly, because the fucking idiot Democrats chased everyone out with crime and high taxes. | Oct 09 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | army that cannot win against taliban! | Oct 09 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | And all of the people who are worth a bag of beans are heading south or west or east. | Oct 09 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | damn those dams | Oct 09 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | let them fall | Oct 09 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | worry about the floods later | Oct 09 23:55 |
| MinceR | let the bodies hit the floor? | Oct 09 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [23:55] <DaemonFC> It's really unfair to judge the entire country by a dying region. | Oct 09 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not unfsair | Oct 09 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | you judge societies by how they treat the worst | Oct 09 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | You know, Indiana used to be a fairly progressive state. Wanna know why it isn't now? Wanna know why it rots and gets state legislators that go herr derrr I got COVID and god saved me!? | Oct 09 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | US executes many people | Oct 09 23:56 |
| activelow | i am not forking gnome2 | Oct 09 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and doesn't offer them basics like access to health | Oct 09 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Because once the progressives have raised taxes and caused a complete fucking mess, they bail on the state to live elsewhere and then start over. | Oct 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | Then the state they left falls to the other fucking idiots. | Oct 09 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | progressives? | Oct 09 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | progressives by whose standard? | Oct 09 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporate wall street? | Oct 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | You know, the ones who are incredibly racist. | Oct 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | BLM! But my company doesn't hire any blacks.... - mjg59_ | Oct 09 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | that;s not progressives | Oct 09 23:58 |
| MinceR | the (slightly) less economical-right of the two parties in the USA that have a chance to control the government | Oct 09 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | Also mjg59_: Blacks are stupid and can't be held accountable for anything they do. | Oct 09 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | Also also mjg59_ Blacks are oppressed by a malignant evil invisible force of whiteness in general. | Oct 09 23:58 |
| MinceR | they're also a member of the Progressive Alliance :> | Oct 09 23:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: enough, you're just provoking | Oct 09 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | With that attitude given to people, that they are not responsible for their actions and they're oppressed by invisible people who don't actually exist or wish them harm, sets them up to fail. | Oct 09 23:59 |
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