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schestowitzvZS1: ii now running on the pi with ipfsJan 10 00:03
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vZS1> schestowitz: vZS1: do you want me to do some work on IPFS to the effect noted?Jan 10 00:19
schestowitzyes, if possibleJan 10 00:19
schestowitzas I am new to itJan 10 00:19
vZS1> schestowitz: or is that, being unstable (still) as mentioned, to be a side project for now? I have lots of spare time tonight/tomorrow.Jan 10 00:20
schestowitzthe above should put in the new ipfs cid when a new one is added, it's not part of the cron jobJan 10 00:20
schestowitzat 3am ish we'll see if that workedJan 10 00:20
schestowitzat around 2:40 we'll know for sure if the same works from my pc for irc logsJan 10 00:20
vZS1If you want to do something with IPFS, try it out. It's software; all software has bugs you need to deal with. There's no point waiting for it to be perfect.Jan 10 00:21
schestowitzYes, I am awareJan 10 00:21
schestowitzI am going to work on irc status layoutJan 10 00:22
schestowitzfor concisionJan 10 00:22
vZS1I'll deal with the issues as they come upJan 10 00:22
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vZS1Since you've got some time, try out IPNS a bit and see what you think.Jan 10 00:29
vZS1I've noticed IPNS through the HTTP gateway takes a while to load. It's a lot faster from the CLI.Jan 10 00:34
techrights-ipfsIPFS local node TotalIn: 27 GB TotalOut: 12 GB Jan 10 00:35
schestowitzthat's just Jan 10 00:35
schestowitzBWIn=$(ipfs stats bw  | grep TotalIn)Jan 10 00:35
schestowitzBWOut=$(ipfs stats bw  | grep TotalOut)Jan 10 00:35
schestowitzecho "IPFS local node $BWIn $BWOut " Jan 10 00:35
schestowitzI will try ipns nextJan 10 00:36
vZS1Once you're comfortable with IPNS, I can set up an IPNS object that keeps track of your Rpi's public IP address. It'll make things more convenient for us.Jan 10 00:39
schestowitzthanks!Jan 10 00:39
vZS1I don't want to go ahead until you're on the same page though; which is why I wrote the IPNS how-to for you.Jan 10 00:39
schestowitzI think that the cronjob will now work and echo new cids as they're createdJan 10 00:40
schestowitzwe'll know in a few hoursJan 10 00:40
schestowitzin theory we could put ii on the server also, the webserverJan 10 00:41
schestowitzand get some info from there, but no practical use to it that I can think of, also a security riskJan 10 00:41
vZS1I'd keep only what's necessary.Jan 10 00:42
schestowitzam going to take a nap now, bblJan 10 00:42
vZS1CyaJan 10 00:42
schestowitzwill see if that worked when I wake upJan 10 00:42
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techrights-ipfsIPFS local node stats      TotalIn: 27 GB      TotalOut: 12 GBJan 10 03:00
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Ariadnei would be willing to take pleroma.site back over i guessJan 10 04:28
Ariadnethough i amnot in favor of modern pleromaJan 10 04:28
Ariadneit is architecturally badJan 10 04:28
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schestowitzAriadne: yes, I recall you saying something about RAM strains it can causeJan 10 04:56
schestowitzAriadne: he says it's a financial burden on himJan 10 04:57
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Ariadnethe real question is whether pleroma can run on s390xJan 10 05:00
Ariadneif it canJan 10 05:00
MinceR:)Jan 10 05:00
Ariadnei have an IBM Enterprise Parallel Server, model z13 with 4TB of RAM and 8 processor books (for a total of 160 cores at 5ghz)Jan 10 05:00
Ariadnemeaning i can justJan 10 05:01
Ariadnegive it a shitload of RAM and call it a dayJan 10 05:01
Ariadne^_^Jan 10 05:01
MinceR:>Jan 10 05:01
schestowitzlooks like my first attempt at the ipfs and TR bots was bug-free, checking if all the links above work properly and are also the correct onesJan 10 05:02
Ariadnethe problem is,Jan 10 05:03
Ariadnepleroma is really shit architecturallyJan 10 05:03
techrights-bot2 minutes is a long time https://imgur.com/gallery/5WB9jnOJan 10 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The whole GOP it's going to try to pretend they haven't been complicit these last 4 years. Don't let them. - Album on ImgurJan 10 05:03
Ariadnethey decided cheap features and working with bigots was better for growth than just producing a good productJan 10 05:03
Ariadneand the architecture shows the result of that philosophyJan 10 05:03
Ariadnebut, again i think the fediverse is not greatJan 10 05:10
Ariadnei think social media has been a net negative for society, tooJan 10 05:10
schestowitzI agreeJan 10 05:12
schestowitzbut...Jan 10 05:12
schestowitznotice I still use itJan 10 05:12
schestowitzIRC is less unrulyJan 10 05:12
schestowitzthe nature of it is, people who think alike convergeJan 10 05:12
CrystalMathpleroma? isn't it just a fork of mastodon?Jan 10 05:12
CrystalMathor GNU socialJan 10 05:12
schestowitzit's not a pool that weds people who hate each otherJan 10 05:12
schestowitzCrystalMath: noJan 10 05:12
schestowitzmore like gnu socialsJan 10 05:12
MinceRUnruly EvilJan 10 05:12
schestowitzgnu social/statusnetJan 10 05:12
schestowitzwith elixirJan 10 05:12
schestowitzafaikJan 10 05:12
AriadneCrystalMath: pleroma is an independent implementation, but pleroma 2 is really awfulJan 10 05:13
CrystalMathokay so how is it different from mastodon?Jan 10 05:13
CrystalMathAriadne: does it support free speech?Jan 10 05:13
Ariadnepleroma 1 was fast and efficient, pleroma 2 is less efficient than mastodon which is just amazingJan 10 05:13
CrystalMathif yes, then i'm inJan 10 05:13
schestowitzCrystalMath: the problem is death threatsJan 10 05:13
Ariadnewhat do you mean by "support free speech"Jan 10 05:13
CrystalMathsupports the idea that anyone can have any opinionJan 10 05:13
schestowitzsome people include in free speech things that are against the lawJan 10 05:13
Ariadneit is AGPL software, anybody may download and run their own instanceJan 10 05:13
CrystalMathi said opinionJan 10 05:14
CrystalMathnot crap like death threatsJan 10 05:14
schestowitzI saw calls for violent sedition weeks ago in Twitter, in my notifications evenJan 10 05:14
Ariadnewhether or not people choose to federate with you (or allow you an account on their instance) is obviously up to the individualJan 10 05:14
Ariadnea lot of people conflate "free speech" with "people are required to read my posts"Jan 10 05:14
CrystalMathAriadne: i see, i'm asking because you said "works with bigots"Jan 10 05:14
CrystalMathi'd rather listen to bigots then one long trail of monoculture one-track mindsJan 10 05:15
schestowitzgab is problematicJan 10 05:15
schestowitzI posted in gab because twitter kept shadowbanning meJan 10 05:15
schestowitzlike 50 timesJan 10 05:15
schestowitzand gab back then had not only lunaticsJan 10 05:15
AriadneCrystalMath: i'd rather not work with people who say in the shared workspace that people like me should dieJan 10 05:15
CrystalMathAriadne: i'm okay with people telling me to die every once in a while, it happensJan 10 05:15
Ariadneit makes for a hostile working environmentJan 10 05:16
MinceR"dieplz"Jan 10 05:16
CrystalMaththough, last time i was on rizon, it's more like 100% of the timeJan 10 05:16
CrystalMathMinceR: thanksJan 10 05:16
MinceRlolJan 10 05:16
CrystalMathMinceR: i appreciate your contribution to the diversity of opinionsJan 10 05:16
MinceRsource of quote >> http://jeje.je/lame.htmlJan 10 05:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeje.je | HOW TO BE LAME v1.337Jan 10 05:16
Ariadnei also think that entire classes of people being encouraged to die is not a valid contribution to the diversity of opinionsJan 10 05:16
Ariadneanyway, those people decided that writing badly designed code quickly was more important than moving slow and incrementally.Jan 10 05:17
Ariadnebut pleroma was originally embraced by the queer free software community, so the pivot to collaborating with TERFs was problematicJan 10 05:18
CrystalMathbut what do TERFs have to do with pleroma's software designJan 10 05:18
schestowitz[05:15] <CrystalMath> Ariadne: i'm okay with people telling me to die every once in a while, it happensJan 10 05:18
schestowitznot everyone is OK with thatJan 10 05:18
Ariadnethe TERFs hired developers to work on pleroma, those developers were incompetentJan 10 05:18
schestowitzand it goes beyond limitsJan 10 05:18
schestowitzit's a rhetoric suggesting you might kill them, if you couldJan 10 05:19
Ariadnethe TERFs also pressured management into pressuring the original contributors into interacting with the TERFsJan 10 05:20
Ariadnemany of the original contributors gave up and left the fediverse or switched to mastodonJan 10 05:20
schestowitzyou could fork itJan 10 05:20
Ariadnemanagement has now erased that historyJan 10 05:20
schestowitzand become lead dev, based on v. 1.xJan 10 05:20
CrystalMathAriadne: ah, but that means that there's nothinga about the software that is TERF-yJan 10 05:20
CrystalMath*nothingJan 10 05:20
AriadneCrystalMath: management is TERF-yJan 10 05:20
MinceRor you could just revive 1.x, possibly under a new name :>Jan 10 05:21
Ariadnethere are some interest in doing thatJan 10 05:21
CrystalMathschestowitz: tbh i rarely get murder threats, maybe twice or three times totalJan 10 05:22
AriadneCrystalMath: the software is bloated crap that stores RDF objects for every single vote in a poll, for exampleJan 10 05:22
CrystalMathAriadne: yikesJan 10 05:22
AriadnePleroma 2 is like, they looked at ZOPE and thought "this is a great idea, lets do it in Elixir"Jan 10 05:22
schestowitz[05:22] <CrystalMath> schestowitz: tbh i rarely get murder threats, maybe twice or three times totalJan 10 05:22
schestowitzIn gab I sometimes got that many in one hourJan 10 05:23
schestowitzfor as little as criticising Trump stronglyJan 10 05:23
AriadneCrystalMath: i think people would have been more tolerant of the TERF-involvement if the software itself was not becoming bloated crapJan 10 05:23
*schestowitz thinks a lot of software should stop being developedJan 10 05:23
*MinceR agreesJan 10 05:23
*schestowitz thinks there's a tendency to over-develop and over-engineer things, adding bloat and complexity where none was needed anymoreJan 10 05:24
Ariadnebut if the software is bad, and the community is badJan 10 05:24
schestowitzthose are two different thingsJan 10 05:24
CrystalMathAriadne: what i was hoping, is that your criticism actually means that pleroma has some brilliant trick that prevents people from being banned no matter what they sayJan 10 05:24
schestowitzsoftware development has communityJan 10 05:24
schestowitzthe software itself does notJan 10 05:24
CrystalMathbasically magicallyJan 10 05:24
Ariadneyes, but contributors have to consider both aspectsJan 10 05:24
schestowitzCrystalMath: that's ipfsJan 10 05:24
CrystalMathrightJan 10 05:24
CrystalMathIPFS is goodJan 10 05:25
schestowitzassange looked into itJan 10 05:25
AriadneCrystalMath: the trick is "run your own instance"Jan 10 05:25
schestowitzI told him to get off twitter, which wikileaks became overreliant obnJan 10 05:25
schestowitztwitter censored and banned wikileaks countless timesJan 10 05:25
schestowitzsome accounts never came back, but nobody noticedJan 10 05:25
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AriadneCrystalMath: in a federated network, people can choose or not choose to interact with you.  there is no "shadow ban" or anything like that.Jan 10 05:26
CrystalMathschestowitz: well maybe Gab has "average Trump people" which are just as polarized as the other side, and just as nastyJan 10 05:26
CrystalMathon freenode, Trump people aren't like thatJan 10 05:26
Ariadneschestowitz: anyway, management could have chosen to condemn kiwifarms using the software, but chose not toJan 10 05:26
Ariadnethat honestly should have been a warning signJan 10 05:26
Ariadne(yes, the license allows it, but that doesn't mean the authors of the software have to be like "yeah this is great")Jan 10 05:27
schestowitzkiwifarms?Jan 10 05:28
CrystalMathkiwifarms/Jan 10 05:28
Ariadnethe US military uses Alpine, but they don't participate in the alpine communityJan 10 05:28
CrystalMath*?Jan 10 05:28
schestowitzBTW, someone ("moon") from shitposter "invited" me to joinJan 10 05:28
schestowitzafter pleroma.site went offlineJan 10 05:28
Ariadnekiwifarms is a website run by alt-right peopleJan 10 05:28
schestowitzalt reichJan 10 05:28
Ariadnethey basically dox people who disagree with alt-right viewsJan 10 05:28
CrystalMathi just found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_FarmsJan 10 05:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kiwi Farms - WikipediaJan 10 05:28
CrystalMathit's very bizarreJan 10 05:28
schestowitz reichreichreichreich achtung achtungachtungachtungJan 10 05:28
CrystalMathreminds me of Gamergate a little?Jan 10 05:29
schestowitzthey do cultural approporiationJan 10 05:29
Ariadneanyway, if kiwi farms had used GNU Social or Mastodon, i would expect the maintainers wouldn't be welcoming them aboardJan 10 05:29
schestowitzlike the cute drugJan 10 05:29
schestowitzand "kek"Jan 10 05:29
schestowitz*frogJan 10 05:29
schestowitzit helps them ride connotations that are positiveJan 10 05:30
schestowitzuntil they run dryJan 10 05:30
schestowitzas they do with ShamansJan 10 05:30
schestowitztake something peacefulJan 10 05:30
Ariadneyes, anyway, i warned management that alt-right trying to appropriate Pleroma's community is not goodJan 10 05:30
schestowitzlike a swastikaJan 10 05:30
CrystalMathi remember Gamergate, it seemed like a legitimate inquiry, until i realized the game they said could never have gotten a 4/5 rating without corrupted gaming journalism is actually EPICJan 10 05:30
schestowitzhijack it, pretend to have embraced those valuesJan 10 05:30
CrystalMathi would give Depression Quest a 5/5Jan 10 05:30
Ariadnebut they were like "lol its fine"Jan 10 05:31
Ariadnei should have honestly quit then and thereJan 10 05:31
schestowitzjust some "proud boys" "having fun"Jan 10 05:31
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schestowitzand having "computer games" where you score points by mowing down people in a mosqueJan 10 05:31
Ariadnea bunch of alt-right install your software and you celebrate that fact, it's definitely a red flag :)))Jan 10 05:31
schestowitzgamification of ethnic cleansingJan 10 05:31
Ariadneof course the license allows it, but the AGPL does not require you to be nice to themJan 10 05:32
Ariadne:PJan 10 05:32
Ariadneand so that is the paradox of free software, when you release it, anyone can use itJan 10 05:32
Ariadnebut that paradox does not apply to actual management of the projectJan 10 05:33
schestowitzit's not a new issueJan 10 05:33
schestowitztechrights wrote about it ages agoJan 10 05:33
Ariadneyou can choose to avoid interaction with alt-right peopleJan 10 05:33
AriadnelolJan 10 05:33
schestowitzin relation to drone strikes and stuffJan 10 05:33
schestowitzlots of gnu in those dronesJan 10 05:33
schestowitzthey used to use Windows many moons agoJan 10 05:33
Ariadnethose drones run on alpineJan 10 05:33
schestowitzIIRC, Iran intercepted at least one by remotely infesting it with malwareJan 10 05:33
Ariadnewell, linuxkitJan 10 05:33
schestowitz(or claimed to)Jan 10 05:33
Ariadnewhich is just industrialized alpineJan 10 05:34
schestowitzI didn't know which bundle of "linux"Jan 10 05:34
schestowitzI imagined some form of redhatJan 10 05:34
CrystalMathwell the Chloe Sagal case is tragic, but the other two listed on the wiki are just bizarreJan 10 05:34
Ariadnei know because raytheon wrote to us asking for license summary of all packages they usedJan 10 05:34
Ariadne:PJan 10 05:34
schestowitzraytheon :-)Jan 10 05:36
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/Jan 10 05:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Giving Awards to Raytheon Wonโ€™t Help Red Hatโ€™s Image | TechrightsJan 10 05:36
CrystalMathwhy is it bad that they were hosting the christchurch attack video?Jan 10 05:37
CrystalMathdon't the people deserve to know?Jan 10 05:37
schestowitz?Jan 10 05:37
Ariadnei don't care about that, i care about the doxingJan 10 05:37
schestowitzmassacre is not "knowing"Jan 10 05:37
CrystalMathkiwifarms was attacked by the government of New Zealand, and blocked, because they shared a video of the attackJan 10 05:37
schestowitzno reason to share thatJan 10 05:37
schestowitzthe police should share itJan 10 05:37
schestowitzamong itselfJan 10 05:37
CrystalMathbut the people deserve to know it happenedJan 10 05:38
Ariadnesharing the video is illegal in NZJan 10 05:38
schestowitzmaybe the NZ armyJan 10 05:38
CrystalMathwasn't it on the news?Jan 10 05:38
Ariadneand they didn't share it so people would know it happenedJan 10 05:38
Ariadnethey shared it to inspire copy cat attacksJan 10 05:38
schestowitzit rewards terroristsJan 10 05:38
CrystalMathyou can see all kinds of attacks and accidents on youtubeJan 10 05:38
CrystalMathi don't see why this one is specialJan 10 05:38
schestowitzyoutube has policy on depiction of violenceJan 10 05:39
CrystalMathi do recall seeing a video of attacks on mosques done in the 90sJan 10 05:39
CrystalMathwell that was 5 years agoJan 10 05:39
schestowitzin collateral murder it's grainy enoughJan 10 05:39
Ariadneyeah anyway kiwifarms ain't no wikileaksJan 10 05:39
CrystalMathstill, i think that attempting to hide the video is suspiciousJan 10 05:39
CrystalMathif NZ shares it only amongst themselvesJan 10 05:40
CrystalMathhow will we know it's not a setup?Jan 10 05:40
CrystalMathi mean, i have no reason to believe that that one was a setupJan 10 05:40
CrystalMathbut to prevent future setups, this should be available to everyoneJan 10 05:40
CrystalMaththe government MUST be transparentJan 10 05:40
AriadneanywayJan 10 05:40
schestowitzCrystalMath: what about beheadings?Jan 10 05:40
Ariadnepleroma also tried to make a deal with gabJan 10 05:40
schestowitzshould we have those too on youtube?Jan 10 05:40
schestowitzeven Internet Archive wipes those uploadsJan 10 05:41
schestowitzno point to themJan 10 05:41
CrystalMathidk about youtube, but they should be allowedJan 10 05:41
Ariadnelike literally any decision they could make to alienate the original contributor base, they basically didJan 10 05:41
CrystalMaththey're evidence of a crimeJan 10 05:41
schestowitzleave that to policeJan 10 05:41
schestowitzand army/intel agenciesJan 10 05:41
CrystalMathso if the police are corrupt, that's itJan 10 05:41
CrystalMathi disagreeJan 10 05:42
CrystalMathi think people should be allowed to do their own investigationsJan 10 05:42
schestowitzyou don't really want beheading videos all over youtubeJan 10 05:42
CrystalMathof course not, why youtube anyway? i'm talking about the fact that it's illegal in NZJan 10 05:42
MinceRwhat if i want to watch people being beheaded?Jan 10 05:42
CrystalMathNZ is a criminal state as far as i'm concernedJan 10 05:42
schestowitzit would make society exceedingly insensitised Jan 10 05:42
schestowitzMinceR: get a movieJan 10 05:43
CrystalMathi can't possibly hate NZ moreJan 10 05:43
schestowitzwhere the beheading is fictionalJan 10 05:43
schestowitzlike horror moviesJan 10 05:43
CrystalMathi already had maximum hate for thisJan 10 05:43
MinceRwhat if i want to see it done in a nonfictional way?Jan 10 05:43
MinceRthe data already exists, it won't harm anyone if it's copied and viewedJan 10 05:43
CrystalMathMinceR: like a snuff film? ugh, i forgot people do thatJan 10 05:44
schestowitzit's going down a bad path, as then you could argue about kiddie pr0nJan 10 05:44
schestowitzthe "what if..."Jan 10 05:44
MinceRcopying and viewing that also doesn't harm peopleJan 10 05:44
schestowitzand maybe more beheadings would be filmed to get widely watchedJan 10 05:44
CrystalMathi should clarify that i didn't mean individual murders, but rather murders done in publicJan 10 05:44
schestowitzand that can leads to more filming or acts of terror for the sake of filming them, for gloryJan 10 05:44
MinceRno, if you limit the spread of existing beheading videos, that causes a demand for new ones to be madeJan 10 05:44
CrystalMathi didn't mean to support snuff videosJan 10 05:45
schestowitzlots of people with 'smart' phone cams already do terrible things to film them and put them on social control mediaJan 10 05:45
schestowitzbeing rude to people and stuff...Jan 10 05:45
AriadneanywayJan 10 05:45
MinceRthere's also the Streisand effectJan 10 05:45
CrystalMathi mean that things done in public should be investigated by the publicJan 10 05:45
MinceR"oh no! anyway..."Jan 10 05:45
Ariadneschestowitz: pleroma 2 supports the ActivityPub Move activityJan 10 05:45
schestowitzthat's a bit vigilante-likeJan 10 05:45
schestowitzmaybe you also want fingerprints of suspects on the wwwJan 10 05:46
schestowitzand autopsies with photosJan 10 05:46
Ariadneschestowitz: so my suggestion would be to set up your own techrights instance, and then use a Move activity to migrate your followers overJan 10 05:46
MinceRsounds like a privacy violationJan 10 05:46
schestowitzthat would raise all sorts of other legal issuesJan 10 05:46
CrystalMathschestowitz: that stuff isn't even shared with police officers that don't work on that caseJan 10 05:46
CrystalMaththis is a public event that people saw on the newsJan 10 05:47
schestowitzAriadne: the main issue is, I lack experience setting up and more so maintaining that software, I only know it as a userJan 10 05:47
Ariadneschestowitz: at this point, 99% of instances support Move activity.  so it should be basically seamless to get your posts and users.Jan 10 05:47
Ariadnei can set something up for youJan 10 05:47
CrystalMathschestowitz: should we ban clips of WW2?Jan 10 05:47
schestowitzAriadne: I think pleroma.site needs to be online for that to happenJan 10 05:47
CrystalMaththat was a public eventJan 10 05:47
CrystalMathi don't count it as a "snuff film"Jan 10 05:47
schestowitzCrystalMath: depends on the granularityJan 10 05:48
CrystalMaththere are clips of bombs fallingJan 10 05:48
schestowitzthey show you dead Vietnamese, but not kids being literally dismembered by a bomb as it happensJan 10 05:48
schestowitzAriadne: sounds good!Jan 10 05:48
CrystalMathsometimes it includes people screaming and runningJan 10 05:48
CrystalMaththis clip was used in an actual obscure movie about GodzillaJan 10 05:49
CrystalMaththat's how i know about itJan 10 05:49
CrystalMathsomeone made a Godzilla remake, using WW2 clipsJan 10 05:49
schestowitztrust me, you don't want to see people blown to bitsJan 10 05:49
CrystalMathback in the 70s/80sJan 10 05:49
schestowitzor suicide bomb footage with limbs flyingJan 10 05:49
CrystalMathi don't, but i didn't... the quality is so bad it's impossibleJan 10 05:49
CrystalMathi didn't actually see the whole Godzilla remake itself, but rather a youtube video about itJan 10 05:50
CrystalMathand how it used actually WW2 footage to increase the horror effectJan 10 05:50
CrystalMathto be specificJan 10 05:50
CrystalMathmaybe the quality was further degraded by the uploader to censor itJan 10 05:50
MinceR10 064921 < schestowitz> trust me, you don't want to see people blown to bitsJan 10 05:51
CrystalMaths/actually/actual/Jan 10 05:51
MinceRtrust me, i doJan 10 05:51
MinceRi regularly do in video games :>Jan 10 05:51
Ariadnejesus christJan 10 05:51
CrystalMathMinceR: yuckJan 10 05:51
Ariadnepleroma is now trying to drive AP developmentJan 10 05:51
CrystalMathAP?Jan 10 05:51
Ariadneand their plans are garbageJan 10 05:51
schestowitzEEE?Jan 10 05:52
schestowitzbackward compatible?Jan 10 05:52
Ariadnebackward compatible, but just badly designedJan 10 05:52
schestowitzFEECHERSJan 10 05:52
schestowitzMore FEECHERSJan 10 05:52
schestowitzComing soon: support for emojis with green-skinned charactersJan 10 05:53
AriadneanywayJan 10 05:54
Ariadnei think activitypub is not very good anywayJan 10 05:54
Ariadnethere are a lot of architectural flawsJan 10 05:54
CrystalMathi call that one day there will be a character in unicode that renders as the entire Doom gameJan 10 05:54
MinceRniceJan 10 05:55
MinceRbest unicode everJan 10 05:55
MinceRas long as it's the original doomJan 10 05:55
CrystalMathand it accepts the same modifiers as other emoji, to change the main character's skin color and genderJan 10 05:55
MinceRewJan 10 05:55
CrystalMathto make it harder to implement :PJan 10 05:55
CrystalMathnobody's implementing Unicode 153.5Jan 10 05:55
MinceRthe sad thing is that the redmond mafia owns the intellectual monopolies to it now :(Jan 10 05:56
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MinceRnot that zenimax on its own was a lot betterJan 10 05:56
MinceRmaybe use freedoom instead or somethingJan 10 05:56
CrystalMathDoom is free as in freedomJan 10 05:56
MinceRthe code isJan 10 05:56
CrystalMathonly the data isn'tJan 10 05:56
MinceRthe assets aren'tJan 10 05:56
CrystalMathrightJan 10 05:57
schestowitz"assets"Jan 10 05:57
MinceRand the assets would be necessarily visible in that characterJan 10 05:57
MinceRalso, to tie it to the earlier discussion, maybe it could use one of those gore mods too...Jan 10 05:57
schestowitzisn't there an emoji for the doom guy already? :-)Jan 10 05:57
MinceRKetchup, Bolognese or Nash's Gore Mod...Jan 10 05:57
schestowitzor for Marilyn Monroe or something?Jan 10 05:57
Ariadneand W3C is trying to force SOLiD on ActivityPub communityJan 10 05:58
schestowitzcoming soon: emoji for cheeto hitlerJan 10 05:58
MinceRschestowitz: i'm not aware of it, but i don't know all the emojiJan 10 05:58
CrystalMaththere should be a Doom variant with Marilyn Monroe as the main characterJan 10 05:58
MinceRyou could make oneJan 10 05:58
schestowitzlet's checkJan 10 05:58
schestowitzEmoji CelebritiesJan 10 05:59
schestowitzHere, Kate Jackson transforms the monikers of 15 celebrities into emojis.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitz...Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzAnswers:Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzTom Cruise.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzDavid Beckham.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzMike Tyson.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzMargot Robbie.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzAlec Baldwin.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzElton John.Jan 10 05:59
CrystalMathMinceR: hmm, what if people interpret it as Marilyn Monroe going to hell? :(Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzPenelope Cruz.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzRowan Atkinson.Jan 10 05:59
schestowitzthat's differentJan 10 05:59
schestowitzoh goshJan 10 05:59
schestowitzI hate emoji fetishistsJan 10 05:59
Ariadnethanks for the floodJan 10 05:59
MinceRCrystalMath: well, if you're going through the classic doom episodes, you've got to go to hellJan 10 05:59
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MinceRif you also do Hell on Earth, that's at least 2 trips to hellJan 10 06:00
MinceRi'm not sure where They Flesh Consumed plays outJan 10 06:00
CrystalMathi've never actually played doom beyond testing it in my emulatorJan 10 06:00
MinceRs/hey/hy/Jan 10 06:00
schestowitzhttps://www.boredpanda.com/i-made-emoji-versions-of-famous-people-that-you-never-thought-you-would-need-in-your-chat/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organicJan 10 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.boredpanda.com | I Made Emoji Versions Of Famous People That You Never Thought You Would Need In Your Chat | Bored PandaJan 10 06:01
Ariadneanyway, maybe i should speedrun a simple AP server that schestowitz can manageJan 10 06:01
Ariadnei could probably write one in about a dayJan 10 06:02
MinceR> can't even spell HitchcockJan 10 06:02
schestowitzAriadne: multi-user?\Jan 10 06:02
AriadnesureJan 10 06:02
Ariadnewithout JavaScript crapJan 10 06:02
schestowitzyeah, I always turn that offJan 10 06:02
AriadnePleroma FE does require JavaScriptJan 10 06:03
Ariadne:(Jan 10 06:03
schestowitzno practical need for JS in 90% of cases where it is imposedJan 10 06:03
Ariadnei prefer to use native apps like uhhJan 10 06:03
schestowitzTwitter stopped working completely without JSJan 10 06:03
AriadneTusky and whatnotJan 10 06:03
schestowitzit's what RMS told me (fallback for no JS) that made it remotely acceptable still.... they killed that fallback december 16th 2020Jan 10 06:04
schestowitzthe media paid no attentionJan 10 06:04
Ariadneadmittedly the Pleroma FE client is 100% libre JSJan 10 06:04
Ariadnebut still, yuckJan 10 06:04
Ariadnei've never really liked that about Mastodon or PleromaJan 10 06:05
schestowitzsuckless ii is one c fileJan 10 06:05
schestowitzyou mentioned it yesterdayJan 10 06:05
schestowitzInstalled on my pc and pi nowJan 10 06:05
schestowitz"justworks"Jan 10 06:05
schestowitzmaybe there's a need for "suckless fediverse too"Jan 10 06:06
schestowitzpost by writing to a fileJan 10 06:06
schestowitzread in the terminal etcJan 10 06:06
schestowitzposts as std i/o streamsJan 10 06:06
schestowitzthe bsd geeks would certainly adopt itJan 10 06:06
schestowitzsome shut down their mastodon instances latelyJan 10 06:07
Ariadnewell, i do not like suckless.org at largeJan 10 06:07
Ariadnea lot of the people involved in that community are alt-rightJan 10 06:07
Ariadnewho think systemd is a jewish conspiracyJan 10 06:07
Ariadnehowever, some software they produce is goodJan 10 06:08
*Ariadne debates using elixir for thisJan 10 06:08
Ariadnethough i think flask with an asyncio worker is idealJan 10 06:10
schestowitzsuckless people have an attitudeJan 10 06:10
schestowitzbut maybe it's easy to overgeneraliseJan 10 06:10
schestowitz[06:07] <Ariadne> who think systemd is a jewish conspiracyJan 10 06:10
Ariadnehaving had to remove some of them from alpine IRC channels because they were yammering about systemd :PJan 10 06:11
schestowitzMaybe they also allege Jobs and Gates are "Jewish"Jan 10 06:11
schestowitzor Thomas WatsonJan 10 06:11
schestowitzI only knew about suckless because of antagonism to systemdJan 10 06:11
Ariadneits frustrating, becauseJan 10 06:11
schestowitzsystemd is German in rootsJan 10 06:12
schestowitzsame for PAJan 10 06:12
Ariadneelixir has a really good DB abstractionJan 10 06:12
schestowitzroR?Jan 10 06:12
Ariadnefuck noJan 10 06:12
Ariadnethere is alembic with flask, but it is annoyingJan 10 06:12
schestowitzI don't like dhhJan 10 06:13
schestowitzhe's super pretentious, more than TorvaldsJan 10 06:13
schestowitzmore than de raadt, too, I thinkJan 10 06:14
Ariadnehmm, neatJan 10 06:14
Ariadnealembic now has automatic migration generationJan 10 06:14
Ariadneok i will use flask for thisJan 10 06:14
schestowitzyes, I have noted thatJan 10 06:16
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schestowitzhttps://lbry.tv/@Lunduke:e/ditching-youtube-the-smart-move:6Jan 10 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lbry.tv | Ditching YouTube: The Smart MoveJan 10 06:22
schestowitzcoollJan 10 06:22
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schestowitzwon't argument rhoughJan 10 06:24
schestowitzALL about moneyJan 10 06:25
schestowitznot controlJan 10 06:25
schestowitznot free speechJan 10 06:25
schestowitznot monopolyJan 10 06:25
schestowitzjust moneyJan 10 06:25
schestowitzx https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55598887Jan 10 06:29
schestowitz# parler is not free speech and it is disingenuous for the BBC and theJan 10 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Google suspends 'free speech' app Parler - BBC NewsJan 10 06:29
schestowitz# others to push an anti-free speech agenda pretending that it isJan 10 06:29
schestowitzwowJan 10 06:29
schestowitzso they keep implying free speech implies radicalJan 10 06:29
schestowitzor conflating the two thingsJan 10 06:29
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Ariadnehmm, actually, why use a database at allJan 10 06:36
Ariadnejust store everything as RDF on the filesystem :PJan 10 06:36
MinceR:>Jan 10 06:38
schestowitzthat would be under-engineering :-)Jan 10 06:48
schestowitzlike plat file CMSJan 10 06:48
schestowitz*flatJan 10 06:48
Ariadneit wouldn'tJan 10 06:49
AriadneRDF itself is a database, and a filesystem is a more efficient storage mechanism for an RDF graphJan 10 06:49
schestowitzNo JS, no DB: http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/10/Jan 10 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 10 06:49
schestowitzsynched over ssh Jan 10 06:50
techrights-bot#techrights will soon publish some more #InteLeaks and maybe add a video to help obscure sources. Still unsure if (or how) to release some raw and original material. #intelJan 10 06:55
techrights-bot#patents versus #cycling https://m.pinkbike.com/news/knolly-bikes-suing-intense-for-alleged-patent-infringement.htmlJan 10 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Knolly Bikes Suing Intense for Alleged Patent Infringement - PinkbikeJan 10 06:56
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techrights-bot"Second, we welcome Patola to the team. Heโ€™s a seasoned #GNU #Linux user who is also very experienced in everything VR-related" https://boilingsteam.com/exciting-stuff-going-on-at-boiling-steam/Jan 10 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Exciting Stuff Going on at Boiling Steam - Boiling SteamJan 10 06:57
techrights-bot"At this moment in time, given my current hardware, I suppose the only way to prepare a Windows 10 ISO correctly is through Windows 10. Maybe I missed some crucial piece along the way." https://hackernoon.com/linux-fanboy-meets-struggles-with-and-wins-against-a-windows-10-iso-6e2434xhJan 10 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackernoon.com | Linux Fanboy Meets, Struggles With, and Wins Against a Windows 10 ISO | Hacker NoonJan 10 07:00
schestowitzMinceR: next Intel part is funnyJan 10 07:05
schestowitzworking on itJan 10 07:05
schestowitzit'll strike a nerveJan 10 07:06
schestowitzpsydroid: any info on people at Intel passing around MS Word documentsJan 10 07:06
schestowitzdocx or 'old' doc?Jan 10 07:06
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/intel3.pngJan 10 07:07
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schestowitzhttps://truthout.org/articles/new-covid-variant-found-in-south-africa-raises-concerns-over-impacts-on-vaccine/ Jan 10 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | New COVID Variant Found in South Africa Raises Concerns Over Impacts on VaccineJan 10 07:33
schestowitzvZS1: ^Jan 10 07:33
schestowitz"Naturally, the coronavirus mutates as it spreads. But scientists are more concerned about some mutations more than others, and thereโ€™s one in particular thatโ€™s worrisome because it could throw a wrench in future vaccine efficacy."Jan 10 07:35
schestowitz"According to a separate report published this week, scientists tested the Pfizer vaccine against N501Y using blood samples from 20 people. Fortunately, the vaccination worked on them, but the sample size was far too small to say definitively that it would be true for the general population. "Jan 10 07:36
schestowitz20 people wtf?Jan 10 07:36
schestowitzwhat people?Jan 10 07:36
schestowitzwhat age?Jan 10 07:36
schestowitzpfizer employees?Jan 10 07:36
Ariadne>>> from jejune import appJan 10 07:42
Ariadne>>> app.rdf_store.path_for_uri('https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini')Jan 10 07:42
Ariadne'store/rdf/fb/7e/fb7eb9b61a1723f56c0011fcd987ae25338088a08836cc3ceafa72541ef267d5'Jan 10 07:42
AriadneweeeeeeeeJan 10 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encountered end of file ( status 0 @ https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini )Jan 10 07:42
Ariadnewho needs a database lolJan 10 07:43
schestowitz"Jan 10 07:44
schestowitzHowever, I once had a newly hired Sr. software engineer request confirmation - to use nano to extract files from a tar.gz... I responded with... tar ... and dropped the call.Jan 10 07:44
schestowitzClearly he had been a "different kind" of dev. :)Jan 10 07:44
schestowitz"Jan 10 07:44
schestowitzLOLJan 10 07:44
schestowitznano for tarJan 10 07:44
AriadnewtfJan 10 07:45
schestowitzAriadne: can you access that DB?Jan 10 07:45
Ariadneaccess what DB?Jan 10 07:45
schestowitzAriadne: Intel.Jan 10 07:45
schestowitzpleroma'sJan 10 07:45
schestowitzI mean the URLJan 10 07:45
AriadnenoJan 10 07:45
Ariadnei was just using it as a test URL for the hashingJan 10 07:45
schestowitzOver the past month I must have attempted to open https://pleroma.site/ like... hmm... maybe 300 timesJan 10 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encountered end of file ( status 0 @ https://pleroma.site/ )Jan 10 07:46
schestowitzmaybe there can be a DB-free pleroma alternative based on code from pleromaJan 10 07:46
Ariadnethere's two "DBs" (i use this term loosely) in jejuneJan 10 07:46
schestowitzthe BSD people would love itJan 10 07:46
schestowitzsome complained about mastodon bloatJan 10 07:46
Ariadnethe RDF store, and the userdbJan 10 07:46
Ariadneuserdb maps foo@bar.com to URIsJan 10 07:47
schestowitzirc bridge is good alsoJan 10 07:47
schestowitzthey use irc, not matricJan 10 07:47
schestowitzand mailing listsJan 10 07:47
AriadneURIs are cached (or authoritatively stored) in RDFStoreJan 10 07:47
schestowitzI think twitter and fb don't know what to do with their devs to keep them occupied, so they add proprietary fonts and bloatJan 10 07:47
Ariadnealso, i can add transparent gzip of these objectsJan 10 07:47
Ariadnewhich a DB cannotJan 10 07:47
Ariadne:DJan 10 07:48
schestowitzand then their "platform" needs 1gb of ram before you even start scrollingJan 10 07:48
schestowitzsome DBs are pseudo DBsJan 10 07:48
schestowitzthey just have an interaction layerJan 10 07:48
schestowitzor abstractionJan 10 07:48
schestowitzbut can be read directly from diskJan 10 07:48
Ariadneyeah that is the goal hereJan 10 07:52
Ariadnethe uri is hashed so that people cannot do directory traversal attacksJan 10 07:54
Ariadnee.g.Jan 10 07:54
AriadneCreate { id: "https://lol.com/../../../../../etc/shadow"; }Jan 10 07:54
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schestowitzhttps://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2020-12-31-happier-gnu-year.en.htmlJan 10 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org | ::[FSFLA]:: Happier GNU Year!Jan 10 07:58
schestowitz"2021-01-09 update: pretty much everyone in the FSF board has convinced me that publishing this was a big mistake. I don't unpublish stuff, but, before it does further damage, I take it back."Jan 10 07:58
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psydroidschestowitz, not on Intel's use of proprietary MS formats, but it's standard practice at companies that are partnered with MS and have the company's technologies deeply embedded in their desktop infrastructureJan 10 08:05
psydroidwhich again hints at the fact that Intel doesn't really support free software but rather tolerates it to prevent other semiconductor companies from taking up a prominent role in the free software worldJan 10 08:07
schestowitzyes, exactlyJan 10 08:08
schestowitzOur BT connection is so awful that my 12-minute video about inteLeaks will take 6 more hours to upload. On BT issues: 1) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/06/coronavirus-bt/ 2) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/09/bt-is-down/Jan 10 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Coronavirus May Have Caused a Nationwide or Regional Congestion Crisis for BTJan 10 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป British Telecom Cannot Blame Coronavirus For Its Awful Customer โ€˜Careโ€™ and Various Face-Saving Lies Disguised as โ€˜Supportโ€™Jan 10 08:08
schestowitz"file still 22mb after compression."Jan 10 08:09
schestowitzpeople trucking info to usJan 10 08:09
schestowitzand it takes ages to handle filesJan 10 08:09
schestowitzesp. video filesJan 10 08:09
techrights-botAre these people aware of the low quality of #EPO #patents ? https://medicaldialogues.in/news/industry/pharma/moberg-pharma-subsidiary-announces-issue-of-european-patent-related-to-bupizenge-73319Jan 10 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medicaldialogues.in | Moberg Pharma subsidiary announces issue of European Patent related to BupiZengeJan 10 08:14
psydroidas for vapourware we only have to look at Itanium and Larrabee derived architectures such as the Knights Landing/Mill add-in cards, which were total failures in the marketplace, but because it's Intel people pay attention to them and worse waste precious time developing for/with them when they really shouldn'tJan 10 08:14
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techrights-bot"given that the European Patent Office (EPO) is an institution that is not related to the European Union" <-- this is NOT entirely true anymore https://inventa.com/en/news/article/582/brexit-what-happens-with-your-ip-assets-in-2021 http://techrights.org/2020/12/01/the-breton-coverup/Jan 10 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brexit: What happens with your IP assets in 2021? - Inventa InternationalJan 10 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Commissionโ€™s Thierry Breton Covers Up EPO Corruption For His Friend Benoรฎt Battistelli | TechrightsJan 10 08:16
schestowitzpsydroid: aaJan 10 08:16
schestowitzahaJan 10 08:16
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techrights-bot"The #EPO is like any other forum; if it hears a compelling story ending with a good invention" https://www.iam-media.com/justin-hill nope, see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPOJan 10 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Justin Hill | IAMJan 10 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - TechrightsJan 10 08:24
schestowitzwill program my raspi to use the 8 LEDs to reflect on ipfs traffic in real timeJan 10 08:38
techrights-bot#IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 09, 2021 โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โ‡จ http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/irc-log-090121/ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 10 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 09, 2021 | TechrightsJan 10 08:42
techrights-bot#IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 09, 2021 โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โ‡จ http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/irc-log-090121/ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 10 08:43
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techrights-botSo-called 'webinar' #lobbying for or promoting illegal #patents on life/nature in #Europe vhttps://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/webinar-on-priority-entitlement-in-europe.html #epoJan 10 08:54
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146320 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/10/#latestJan 10 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 10 08:56
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AriadneRDF store is done (and that is the hardest part really)Jan 10 09:04
Ariadne:PJan 10 09:04
*schestowitz programs the pi to highlight traffic spikes with LEDsJan 10 09:05
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techrights-botLatest in #PCLOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141761#comment-27738 #pclinuxos #gnu #linuxJan 10 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux MachinesJan 10 09:41
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techrights-bot#LinuxMint 20.1 โ€œUlyssaโ€ Review and Upgrade Guide โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146321 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.1 โ€œUlyssaโ€ Review and Upgrade Guide | Tux MachinesJan 10 09:56
schestowitzDoing this in python, have to revise some of the basicsJan 10 10:04
Techrights-sechttps://tutorials-raspberrypi.com/connect-control-raspberry-pi-ws2812-rgb-led-strips/Jan 10 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tutorials-raspberrypi.com | Connect and Control WS2812 RGB LED Strips via Raspberry PiJan 10 10:06
schestowitzmaybe I can use the four LEDs to do a sort of timed graph of bandwidth for IPFS, I've already got all the inputs in place, updated in-file using a cron jobJan 10 10:06
Techrights-secThere are several outputs: LED #, color, intensityJan 10 10:13
Techrights-secAnd they can be varied.  Some combinations will make more sense than others.Jan 10 10:13
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schestowitzdone...Jan 10 10:50
schestowitz4 lights pulsate in shades of green, 4 in red and intensity varies based on upward and downward ipfs traffic, respectivelyJan 10 10:52
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techrights-bot#Intel Vision Processing Unit Patches Updated For The #Linux #Kernel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Keem-Bay-VPU-V2 #techrights #InteLeaks show a lot of what's really going on in this departmentJan 10 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Vision Processing Unit Patches Updated For The Linux Kernel - PhoronixJan 10 11:22
techrights-bot#PHP 8.0 Is Too Fresh For #Fedora 34 That It Will Be Punted To F35 In The Autumn - Phoronix โ‡จ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PHP-8.0-For-Fedora-35 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxJan 10 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PHP 8.0 Is Too Fresh For Fedora 34 That It Will Be Punted To F35 In The Autumn - PhoronixJan 10 11:24
techrights-bot#RustLang 1.49 Released with Tier-1 Support of 64-Bit ARM Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146012#comment-27739Jan 10 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rust 1.49.0 Released and Related News | Tux MachinesJan 10 11:27
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techrights-botDebian: Reports From Louis-Philippe Vรฉronneau, Thorsten Alteholz and Jonathan McDowell โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146322 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #DebianJan 10 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Reports From Louis-Philippe Vรฉronneau, Thorsten Alteholz and Jonathan McDowell | Tux MachinesJan 10 11:38
techrights-botSOGo calendar synchronization breaks due to #emoji in the event title โ‡จ https://sysadmin-journal.com/sogo-calendar-sync-breaks-due-to-emoji-in-the-event-title/ #emojis break TONS of things. PLEASE STOP USING THEM.Jan 10 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysadmin-journal.com | SOGo calendar synchronization breaks due to emoji in the event titleJan 10 11:42
techrights-botFirst bootup #EasyOS #aarch64 on Pi 4 https://bkhome.org/news/202101/first-bootup-easyos-aarch64-on-pi-4.html Mr. #puppyinux (Barry) has been doing lots of #raspi hacking lately. Today I programmed mine to highlight #ipfs traffic in real time.Jan 10 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | First bootup EasyOS aarch64 on Pi 4Jan 10 11:48
techrights-bot#Rtlduino https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/10/rtlduino-rtl8720dn-dual-band-wifi-iot-board-features-2-4-5ghz-wireless-mcu/ #arduinoJan 10 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | $6 Rtlduino RTL8720DN dual-band WiFi IoT board features 2.4/5GHz Wireless MCUJan 10 11:51
techrights-botWhat is new in #LinuxMint 20.1 Ulyssa http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146269#comment-27741 #gnu #linuxJan 10 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.1 โ€œUlyssaโ€ Cinnamon released! | Tux MachinesJan 10 12:04
techrights-bot"if youโ€™re a devotee of Richard Stallman, then I understand, yet I simply disagree with such extremism. [... reply] Itโ€™s perfectly simple and your confusing philosophy with dogma. Read up on it." https://www.ghacks.net/2020/12/31/humble-software-bundle-organize-your-pc-with-lots-of-stardock-apps/Jan 10 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Humble Software Bundle: Organize Your PC with lots of Stardock apps - gHacks Tech NewsJan 10 12:05
techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146323 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 10 12:07
techrights-botGNU/Linux on #RaspberryPi 4/400 and Rtlduino โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146324 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #raspiJan 10 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux on Raspberry Pi 4/400 and Rtlduino | Tux MachinesJan 10 12:13
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techrights-botGames: VR, #Chromebooks , and #PublicDomain Game Jam โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146325 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: VR, Chromebooks, and Public Domain Game Jam | Tux MachinesJan 10 12:16
techrights-bot"With this week's R460 driver release also comes a number of #security updates. Several security issues have been patched in both the #NVIDIA Windows and #Linux #graphics driver components." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-21.0-With-Haiku-OSJan 10 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 21.0 Is Now Working With Haiku OS For Software OpenGL Rendering - PhoronixJan 10 12:18
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techrights-botLinux Fanboy Meets, Struggles With, and Wins Against a #vista10 ISO โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146326 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Fanboy Meets, Struggles With, and Wins Against a Windows 10 ISO | Tux MachinesJan 10 12:36
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schestowitzrianne:  ./run-blinkt-ipfs.py ipfs 50 50 50  1Jan 10 12:46
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schestowitzthe manual report backup of tuxmachines on the 5th worked OK, but when run from cron job since then they have all been empty files, unlike the local DB dumpJan 10 12:58
Techrights-secOk.  I will look some more.Jan 10 12:59
techrights-bot#Bootlin , Linux #Kernel , and #LinuxFoundation โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146327 #LinuxJan 10 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bootlin, Linux Kernel, and Linux Foundation | Tux MachinesJan 10 13:07
techrights-bot"Generics in #Java and especially such with upper and lower bounds can be confusing even though they are otherwise very useful." http://knowledgebasement.com/java-generics-upper-and-lower-bounds-simply-explained/Jan 10 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowledgebasement.com | Java Generics With Upper and Lower Bounds Simply Explained |Jan 10 13:09
Techrights-secIt is the host key.  I have to /manually/ add it to known_hostsJan 10 13:12
Techrights-secWhat I did before works on most (all other) systems but not TR as it Jan 10 13:12
Techrights-seccurrently stands.Jan 10 13:12
schestowitznothing has been changed AFAIK in that file or its permissions. I know very little about it as the remote backup wasn't set up by myself :-)Jan 10 13:15
Ariadnei'm almost to a minimum viable product for this AP serverJan 10 13:15
schestowitz:-)Jan 10 13:15
schestowitzI think keeping it light is worthwhile, even statusnet got bloated after a whileJan 10 13:16
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Techrights-secIt's not about the remote backup but about connecting /from/ tr to otherJan 10 13:17
Techrights-sechosts via sshJan 10 13:17
Techrights-secThe problem wasn't caught because the warnings from the SSH clientJan 10 13:17
Techrights-secdon't go to stderr or stdout if I understand correctly.Jan 10 13:17
schestowitz:-)Jan 10 13:17
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Techrights-secSo cron works again.Jan 10 13:18
Techrights-secAnyway, known_hosts has the correct key nowJan 10 13:18
Techrights-secI just tested cron at 13:17 and it is compressing now.Jan 10 13:18
schestowitzIt's a slow news day today, gives lots of time for maintenance Jan 10 13:19
Techrights-secIt has finished compressing.  So that is confirmed to work again. :)Jan 10 13:19
Techrights-secIt is funny that the client does not complain if it cannot write to known_hostsJan 10 13:20
Techrights-secBut then again that is a downright ancient versionstill on the machine.Jan 10 13:20
Techrights-sec~/.ssh/known_hosts was owned by root. that's not normal but works, Jan 10 13:20
Techrights-secif one is aware of it.  Jan 10 13:20
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techrights-botImagine that national goalie of the US is only second goalie for Manchester City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Steffen https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/pep-guardiola-zack-steffen-pre-birmingham-city-fa-cup-63745720Jan 10 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zack Steffen - WikipediaJan 10 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Pep Guardiola: Zack Steffen can fight for No.1 spotJan 10 13:35
psydroidhow not to ever be able to compete with Ederson, maybe when he retiresJan 10 13:38
schestowitzEderson is good with legs/feetJan 10 13:39
schestowitznot sure if steffen isJan 10 13:39
schestowitzI know Bravo wasJan 10 13:39
schestowitzwhere's Bravo? Did he retire/leave/injured?Jan 10 13:39
schestowitzThey're playing across the road now https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55575515Jan 10 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Manchester City v Birmingham City - BBC SportJan 10 13:40
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psydroidI'm watching it on tv while being here on the laptopJan 10 13:41
schestowitzyou're more of a fan than we are then... we're "plastic fans"Jan 10 13:42
psydroidI used to play football for a long time, although I haven't been playing recently (for obvious and less obvious reasons)Jan 10 13:46
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schestowitzsometimes I see dude practising a bitJan 10 13:57
schestowitzbut dribbling and kicking a ballJan 10 13:57
schestowitzon empty pitchJan 10 13:57
schestowitzmust be boring and demotivationalJan 10 13:57
schestowitzBernardo with 2 goals nowJan 10 13:58
schestowitzthat's rareJan 10 13:58
techrights-botTodayโ€™s ๐“๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐Œ๐š๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ Leftovers โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146328 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 10 13:59
techrights-botLinks 10/1/2021: GNU #findutils 4.8.0 and #AntiX โ€˜Bullseyeโ€™ Alpha 1 โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โ‡จ http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/antix-bullseye-alpha-1/ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNU #LinuxJan 10 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/1/2021: GNU findutils 4.8.0 and AntiX โ€˜Bullseyeโ€™ Alpha 1 | TechrightsJan 10 14:06
schestowitzpsydroid: 3 ^_^Jan 10 14:07
schestowitzwe used to hear the chants when there were goalsJan 10 14:08
techrights-botToday in #Techrights โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146330 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/10/#latestJan 10 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJan 10 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 10 14:12
vZS1_2The IPFS daemon crashed silently on me again. I'm implementing some a rudimentary daemon manager script to deal with the issue.Jan 10 14:12
vZS1_2s/some//Jan 10 14:13
schestowitzit has not crashed on me yetJan 10 14:13
schestowitzafaikJan 10 14:13
schestowitzthe ipfs status lights will help detect issuesJan 10 14:13
schestowitzas the daemon now broadcasts in LEDs and to IRCJan 10 14:13
vZS1_2Might just be because I've done a lot of tinkering with the config file.Jan 10 14:14
vZS1_2I'll run a fresh repo later to see if that fixes things. Otherwise, it might be the new bot code I've been working on.Jan 10 14:15
techrights-botTop 5 Linux Laptop You Can Buy in 2021 โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146329 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/10/#latestJan 10 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Linux Laptop You Can Buy in 2021 | Tux MachinesJan 10 14:16
vZS1_2I think the first crash happened on Jan 8, upon browsing my cron mail logsJan 10 14:22
vZS1_2So it's probably not the new code Jan 10 14:23
vZS1_2Because I edited code on Jan 1Jan 10 14:24
schestowitzwhat does the coredump or strace say?Jan 10 14:24
vZS1_2Haven't dug that deep into it yet. Only doing rudimentary logging from the error messages of go-ipfs itself.Jan 10 14:25
vZS1_2I suspect it's just my ipfs repo that's somehow messed up.Jan 10 14:26
vZS1_2I did a lot of experimentation with keys and config files. A subtle bug in there might have corrupted the repo.Jan 10 14:26
vZS1_2I'm just going to wipe the repo and start afreshJan 10 14:27
vZS1_2But that's after I try to figure out what the issue isJan 10 14:27
vZS1_2Let me see if some sort of fsck will help shine a light on the matterJan 10 14:29
vZS1_2`$ ipfs repo verify`Jan 10 14:31
vZS1_2"verify complete, all blocks validated."Jan 10 14:31
vZS1_2Welp. That's not itJan 10 14:31
vZS1_2Ah. I see an error in my cron mail logsJan 10 14:31
vZS1_2"2021-01-08T04:08:27.126Z        ERROR   core    failure on stop: closing datastore at /: open /home/ipfs/Jan 10 14:32
vZS1_2.ipfs/datastore/000286.ldb: too many open filesJan 10 14:32
vZS1_2"Jan 10 14:32
Ariadneprobably need to increase ulimitJan 10 14:36
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vZS1_2That's what I'm gonna doJan 10 14:39
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vZS1_2I'm surprised go-ipfs doesn't use some sort of structured logging. Most Go programs these days tend to output JSON logs.Jan 10 14:52
vZS1_2Might be a 'switch' somewhere for it. Haven't bothered to look yet.Jan 10 14:53
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vZS1_2schestowitz: did you work through the IPNS how-to yet?Jan 10 15:44
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/surprise-2Jan 10 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - SurpriseJan 10 15:45
vZS1_2I've logged into the TR IPFS node and it has the same ulimit for nofiles (1024) as my node. So it's a bit peculiar that mine is crashing and the TR node isn't.Jan 10 15:49
vZS1_2Probably happening because I have a lot more IPFS automation going on.Jan 10 15:50
vZS1_2Will find out tomorrow if this ulimit edit fixes the issue.Jan 10 15:50
vZS1_2If ulimit is the culprit, we'll need to adjust the TR node to stop the same issue from happening there.Jan 10 15:53
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MinceR(cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/07eaf66206155e11.mp4Jan 10 16:32
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vZS1_2Might have to bust out gdb if this process is misbehaving too much.Jan 10 16:45
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XRevan86https://youtu.be/mjArO09tGaI?t=96 so this is how to lock pickJan 10 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[1093] โ€œLobster Lockโ€ Opened With Red Bull Can - YouTubeJan 10 16:56
schestowitzvZS1: I read through it again and ran some commandsJan 10 17:00
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techrights-botSaturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Surprise https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/surprise-2Jan 10 17:00
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/nature-2Jan 10 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - NatureJan 10 17:06
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schestowitzanyone wanna read part 10 of the intel series? while catching typos?Jan 10 17:11
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techrights-botAlex Olivaโ€™s Resignation From the #FSF Board โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โ‡จ http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/alex-oliva-fsf-board/ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 10 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Alex Olivaโ€™s Resignation From the FSF Board | TechrightsJan 10 17:20
techrights-bot9 Decentralized, #P2P and Open Source Alternatives to Mainstream Social Media Platforms Like Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Reddit โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146331 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9 Decentralized, P2P and Open Source Alternatives to Mainstream Social Media Platforms Like Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Reddit | Tux MachinesJan 10 17:27
techrights-botUpcoming #scotus case regarding #patents will have no effect on the ongoing death of #swpats in the US https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/supreme-assignor-estoppel.htmlJan 10 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Supreme Court will hear Assignor Estoppel Case | Patently-OJan 10 17:39
techrights-botAccording to #watchtroll #CAFC "dismissed ABS Global's appeal from the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) as moot." #patents #patent #usptp #ptabJan 10 17:41
techrights-bot#InteLeaks โ€“ Part X: Replacing #FreeSoftware With #Microsoft , Turning One-Minute Processes Into Days Long โ€ข ๐”—๐”ข๐” ๐”ฅ๐”ฏ๐”ฆ๐”ค๐”ฅ๐”ฑ๐”ฐ โ‡จ http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/intel-free-software-and-microsoft/ โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Techrights #GNUJan 10 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks โ€“ Part X: Replacing Free Software With Microsoft, Turning One-Minute Processes Into Days Long | TechrightsJan 10 17:49
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/floodJan 10 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - FloodJan 10 17:55
techrights-botโ€œIntellectual property" -- basically a highly misleading propaganda term which does not mean anything and instead misinforms people -- is promoted by #UCL http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/sunday-surprises.html #UCLForOligarchyJan 10 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sunday Surprises - The IPKatJan 10 17:55
techrights-bot#KeePass 2.47 Released! #HowTo Install in Ubuntu 20.04, 20.10 โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146332 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KeePass 2.47 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 20.04, 20.10 | Tux MachinesJan 10 18:12
techrights-botCan a Linux phone replace my iPhone or Android device? โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146333 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #LinuxJan 10 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can a Linux phone replace my iPhone or Android device? | Tux MachinesJan 10 18:14
MinceRAndroid phones are already Linux phones :>Jan 10 18:16
schestowitzYupJan 10 18:17
vZS1Isn't iOS just BSD as well?Jan 10 18:17
schestowitzNoJan 10 18:17
MinceRiOS is an abomination built on top of the broken corpse of a BSDJan 10 18:17
schestowitzAndroid used to have its oddball offshoot of LinuxJan 10 18:17
schestowitzthen they went mainlineJan 10 18:18
schestowitzMinceR: yesJan 10 18:18
schestowitzit's just "Free code" to themJan 10 18:18
schestowitzfreeJan 10 18:18
schestowitzlowercaseJan 10 18:18
MinceRand the freebsd community seems to love thatJan 10 18:18
schestowitzthey love shithub tooJan 10 18:18
schestowitzwhich loves 'free code' gitJan 10 18:18
schestowitzbut adds nothing free to thatJan 10 18:18
schestowitz'free' hostingJan 10 18:19
schestowitz'free' samplesJan 10 18:19
vZS1I looked it up. iOS is built on top of BSD.Jan 10 18:19
vZS1XNU kernel is Darwin (BSD)Jan 10 18:21
techrights-botGlad to see #watchtroll really hates #scotus for smashing #swpats ... They even admit this, 50 minutes ago: "Alice in 2020: Slashing #SoftwarePatents and Searching for Functional Language at the Federal Circuit"Jan 10 18:21
psydroidbut the kernel is a bastard stepchild of Mach and secret Apple sauce called XNUJan 10 18:21
techrights-botAlexandre Oliva leaves #FSF board http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/alex-oliva-fsf-board/ #gnu #freesw #coup #rmsJan 10 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Alex Olivaโ€™s Resignation From the FSF Board | TechrightsJan 10 18:21
MinceRthe kernel is an abomination glued together from the remains of the FreeBSD kernel and MachJan 10 18:22
techrights-botProcesses that were entirely #Freesoftware -centric were rejected and replaced by truly antithetical spyware of companies that arenโ€™t #Intel and give Intel no autonomy or self-determination http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/intel-free-software-and-microsoft/ #microsoft #leaks #inteleaksJan 10 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks โ€“ Part X: Replacing Free Software With Microsoft, Turning One-Minute Processes Into Days Long | TechrightsJan 10 18:22
MinceRMach is there because the marketroids believed that made it a microkernelJan 10 18:22
MinceR(crApple has about as much understanding of OS design as microshit does)Jan 10 18:23
schestowitziOS is not BSDJan 10 18:23
schestowitzlike macOS is not UNIXJan 10 18:23
schestowitzthey play with wordsJan 10 18:23
schestowitzthey actually hijack brandsJan 10 18:23
schestowitzto deplete those of any valueJan 10 18:23
schestowitzand Android has "Linux" in itJan 10 18:24
schestowitzbut AOSP is not linuxJan 10 18:24
schestowitzunless you start to define linux as funnily as LF doesJan 10 18:24
schestowitzZemlin says he stands for "Linux"Jan 10 18:24
schestowitzHe never even uses itJan 10 18:24
schestowitzBiden says he's leftJan 10 18:24
schestowitzTrump says he's "MAGA"Jan 10 18:25
schestowitzBut some rather outlandish definition of MuricaJan 10 18:25
schestowitzpeople do not always represent what they claim to beJan 10 18:25
schestowitzand i generally reject or approach sceptically what people generally claim or put on a labelJan 10 18:25
schestowitz"FOSS Force"Jan 10 18:25
schestowitz"Linux Insider"Jan 10 18:25
schestowitz(they don't even use Linux"Jan 10 18:25
schestowitzlet alone "insiders"Jan 10 18:25
schestowitzmany sites call themselves "something news"Jan 10 18:26
schestowitzbut when you look deeper they're just marketing firmsJan 10 18:26
schestowitzthe veneer of "news" helps them make salesJan 10 18:26
schestowitzDepartment of Defense is a rebrandJan 10 18:26
schestowitziirc, it was rebranded from Department of War in the 1940sJan 10 18:27
schestowitzLike IDFJan 10 18:27
schestowitzwhich has "D" in itJan 10 18:27
schestowitzprior to that a bunch of guerilla forces conjoinedJan 10 18:27
MinceRMinistry of LoveJan 10 18:27
schestowitzAnd we too have Minister of DefenceJan 10 18:27
schestowitzof... the British EMPIREJan 10 18:27
schestowitzbecause Empires are all about defending themselves... from those whom they COLONISEJan 10 18:27
schestowitzHitler needed to defend himself from FranceJan 10 18:28
schestowitzapparentlyJan 10 18:28
schestowitzand from tiny Czechoslovakia before thatJan 10 18:28
schestowitzMicrosoft loves Linux ->Jan 10 18:28
schestowitzMicrosoft supports Linux ->Jan 10 18:28
schestowitzMicrosoft controls Linux ->Jan 10 18:29
schestowitzMicrosoft DEFENDS LinuxJan 10 18:29
schestowitzOffGaurdian, neckbeards!Jan 10 18:29
schestowitzLeave that f'ing job to MICROSOFTJan 10 18:29
schestowitzThey will defend Linux... from themselvesJan 10 18:29
techrights-botLinux Kernel Developers Discuss Dropping A Bunch Of Old CPUs โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146334 #linux doing a #mozilla and basing development on "market share" obsession instead of principles and preservationJan 10 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Developers Discuss Dropping A Bunch Of Old CPUs | Tux MachinesJan 10 18:32
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/TJlDlyK.pngJan 10 18:36
techrights-botLG Introduces LG8111 AI SoC with Eris Reference Board โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146335 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LG Introduces LG8111 AI SoC with Eris Reference Board | Tux MachinesJan 10 18:37
techrights-bot#EasyOS 64-bit running faster in #RasPi4 https://bkhome.org/news/202101/easyos-64-bit-running-faster-in-pi4.html #gnu #linuxJan 10 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | EasyOS 64-bit running faster in Pi4Jan 10 18:42
techrights-botTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146337 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 10 18:44
techrights-bot#CJEU on #EU #trademark appeals in 2020 โ€“ year in review http://trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/12/30/cjeu-on-eu-trademark-appeals-in-2020-year-in-review/ #euipo needs to be investigated http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPOJan 10 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com | CJEU on EU trademark appeals in 2020 โ€“ year in review - Kluwer Trademark BlogJan 10 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - TechrightsJan 10 18:48
techrights-botWhen you buy Hermรจs you pay oligarchs and their aggressive lawyers, not fashion https://www.thefashionlaw.com/hermes-prevails-in-japanese-case-over-birkin-lookalikes-with-courting-pointing-to-resale-market-as-key-factor/Jan 10 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thefashionlaw.com | Hermรจs Prevails in Japanese Case Over Birkin Lookalikes, as Court Points to Resale Market as Key Factor | The Fashion LawJan 10 18:49
vZS1FSF dismantling itselfJan 10 18:50
techrights-bot#Copyright and the #SciHub / #Libgen Case: A Constitutional Query https://spicyip.com/2020/12/copyright-and-the-scihub-libgen-case-a-constitutional-query.htmlJan 10 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copyright and the Sci-Hub/Libgen Case: A Constitutional Query | SpicyIPJan 10 18:50
schestowitzvZS1: yes, Jan 10 18:51
schestowitzI have sent a query to AlexJan 10 18:51
schestowitzI need to understand wtf is going onJan 10 18:51
techrights-bot#SciHub and #Libgen Up against Academic [sic] Publishers [sic] (EXPLOITERS, a #CARTEL ] https://spicyip.com/2020/12/sci-hub-and-libgen-up-against-academic-publishers-a-death-knell-for-access-to-research-part-iii.htmlJan 10 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-Hub and Libgen Up against Academic Publishers: A Death Knell for Access to Research? โ€“ Part III | SpicyIPJan 10 18:52
techrights-bot#SciHub and #Libgen Up against Academic [sic] Publishers [sic] (CARTEL): A Death Knell for Access to Research? https://spicyip.com/2020/12/sci-hub-and-libgen-up-against-academic-publishers-a-death-knell-for-access-to-research-part-ii.htmlJan 10 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-Hub and Libgen Up against Academic Publishers: A Death Knell for Access to Research? โ€“ Part II | SpicyIPJan 10 18:53
techrights-bot"The court listed out nine suggestive, non-exhaustive factors to categorise a website as โ€˜rogueโ€™ in nature." https://spicyip.com/2020/12/sci-hub-and-libgen-up-against-academic-publishers-a-death-knell-for-access-to-research-part-i.html #SciHub #LibgenJan 10 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-Hub and Libgen Up against Academic Publishers: A Death Knell for Access to Research? โ€“ Part I | SpicyIPJan 10 18:55
vZS1It's a hijacked org is what's going onJan 10 18:57
vZS1I stopped paying attention to FSF after they kicked out RMSJan 10 18:57
techrights-botThorsten Bausch (Hoffmann Eitle): COVID-19, Digitalisation and the #GPTO โ€“ Three Worlds Collide http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/10/covid-19-digitalisation-and-the-gpto-three-worlds-collide/ #patent #patents @fosspatents #de #germanyJan 10 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | COVID-19, Digitalisation and the GPTO โ€“ Three Worlds Collide - Kluwer Patent BlogJan 10 18:58
techrights-botLinux Weekly Roundup: #LinuxMint 20.1, #KDE Plasma 5.21 Updates and More โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146336 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Weekly Roundup: Mint 20.1, KDE Plasma 5.21 Updates and More | Tux MachinesJan 10 19:00
techrights-bot7 Best Multi-platform Text Editors โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146338 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Best Multi-platform Text Editors | Tux MachinesJan 10 19:02
vZS1The GNU PR people still unashamedly advertise FSF speaks volumesJan 10 19:03
techrights-bot#Firefox 86 Will Support Next-Gen Image Format by Default โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146339 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 86 Will Support Next-Gen Image Format by Default | Tux MachinesJan 10 19:03
schestowitzvZS1: not a pretty situationJan 10 19:04
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/04/02/fsf-positive-note/Jan 10 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the Free Software Foundation (FSF) โ€“ Part IX: Semi-Happy Ending | TechrightsJan 10 19:05
schestowitzlong seriesJan 10 19:05
schestowitz9 partsJan 10 19:05
techrights-botKate Text Editor - Quick Open โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146340 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE #FreeSWJan 10 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kate Text Editor - Quick Open | Tux MachinesJan 10 19:06
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techrights-botYikes. #systemd + #microsoft + #ProprietarySoftware #github https://michael-jansen.name/blog/20210109-plasma-systemd-applet/ adopt and then #deletegithub ?Jan 10 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael-jansen.name | Applet Up For Adoption - Michael Jansen, Drive By CodingJan 10 19:13
MinceR(cat) (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/59bca1c2991ed4a8.mp4Jan 10 19:15
techrights-botMozilla No Longer Supports A Free Internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMXrfmRSprM greedy and self-serving #mozilla leadership is killing #firefoxJan 10 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla No Longer Supports A Free Internet - YouTubeJan 10 19:15
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers โ€ข ๐•‹๐•ฆ๐•ฉ ๐•„๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146341 โ€ขโ—โ€ข #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 10 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 10 19:20
techrights-bot#Q4OS 4.3-testing https://q4os.org/ #gnu #linuxJan 10 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating systemJan 10 19:22
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techrights-botChanging One "If" To "While" Caused An Unexpected Shift In A Kernel Benchmark This Week https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-If-While-PL-Fairness-5.11 #linux #kernelJan 10 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Changing One "If" To "While" Caused An Unexpected Shift In A Kernel Benchmark This Week - PhoronixJan 10 19:24
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20071645Jan 10 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4758923)Jan 10 19:49
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CrystalMathschestowitz: FYI, RMS still has ways of controlling the FSFJan 10 19:50
schestowitzvZS1: just did a video about Oliva and FSFJan 10 19:52
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vZS1schestowitz: what's the internet connection like now?Jan 10 20:36
schestowitzIt only get a little better at nightsJan 10 20:37
techrights-bot#RSS Feeds: The Better Way To Consume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR_69wfUSLc spam (ads), #propaganda and #censorship actors dislike RSS and want it abolishedJan 10 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RSS Feeds: The Better Way To Consume - YouTubeJan 10 20:38
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20071610Jan 10 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4757908)Jan 10 20:47
schestowitzreal quote? doubt it...Jan 10 20:48
MinceRยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏJan 10 20:48
schestowitzBrits don't use that wordJan 10 20:49
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tr_guest|70637oooohJan 10 20:55
tr_guest|70637yes I'm only here because it was a single button push on a website I randomly stumbled uponJan 10 20:56
tr_guest|70637i wonder if anyone else is actually alive hereJan 10 20:56
techrights-bot1983 http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/July-2013-Artwork-I/standJan 10 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | standJan 10 20:57
schestowitzhi, tr_guest|70637Jan 10 20:57
schestowitzand yes, it worksJan 10 20:58
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Lantiziaoh well if it works I'll enter the channel properly thenJan 10 21:00
LantiziahiJan 10 21:00
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schestowitzhiJan 10 21:01
schestowitzmakes more senseJan 10 21:01
schestowitzwhat is fuctionffice?Jan 10 21:01
Lantiziaits kind of like a free software advocacy/IT support non-profitJan 10 21:03
Lantiziaruns a few projects and helps other non-profits/charities... https://functionoffice.orgJan 10 21:04
schestowitzVERY goodJan 10 21:04
schestowitzwe need thatJan 10 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-functionoffice.org | Function OfficeJan 10 21:04
Lantiziawebsite might be a bit sluggish - re-arranging some hypervisors at the moment :PJan 10 21:04
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schestowitzwe did that ourselves over dec 31st ishJan 10 21:05
MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITY-fJJnPNQ   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSvBFm_MuXwJan 10 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Prevent Bike Theft Using Electronic Warfare Countermeasures - YouTubeJan 10 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Protect Your Computer from Getting Shot by an MBT - YouTubeJan 10 21:07
Lantizianot the first time I've stumbled upon the techrights.org website I don't thinkJan 10 21:07
schestowitzwe've been around almost 15 yearsJan 10 21:08
Lantizia(or a website that looks very similar, are there other names?)Jan 10 21:08
Lantiziausually when I've googled something particularly anti-MS or anti-Mono :PJan 10 21:08
schestowitzin recent years things changed a bit (more leaks published by us, focus shifted too, but focus changes aren't a new thing)Jan 10 21:08
schestowitzwe also have boycottnovell.comJan 10 21:08
schestowitzthat had a lot to do with software patentsJan 10 21:08
Lantiziayeah I think it was more that one I kept stumbling on in the pastJan 10 21:08
schestowitznice to meet you, good to build federated alliances among similar groupsJan 10 21:09
schestowitzfocus in the community changes over time, people no longer care about Novell and it was sold like a decade agoJan 10 21:09
Lantizianice to meet you too :)Jan 10 21:13
schestowitzwe should keep in touch, here if not elsewhere tooJan 10 21:13
schestowitzmy email is on recordJan 10 21:13
Lantiziawhat's the demographic mostly like here?  Jan 10 21:13
Lantiziai'm thinking in terms of timezonesJan 10 21:13
schestowitzwe can cross-post things Jan 10 21:13
schestowitzmany north Am and EUJan 10 21:14
Lantiziayeah course, well I'm Steven Maddox ... s.maddox@functionoffice.org ... if you never need itJan 10 21:14
LantiziaUK hereJan 10 21:15
Lantiziacan't (unfortunately) consider that EU any moreJan 10 21:15
schestowitzI heard of you before, not sure of the contextJan 10 21:16
Lantiziame individually?Jan 10 21:17
schestowitzI heard the nameJan 10 21:17
schestowitzI'm in MancJan 10 21:17
schestowitzbrb, need to record some vidJan 10 21:17
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Lantizia40 miles north of me thenJan 10 21:18
LantiziaI was reading this btw... http://techrights.org/2020/07/06/canonical-mvp/Jan 10 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Almost Feels Like Microsoft Has Already โ€˜Boughtโ€™ Canonical | TechrightsJan 10 21:19
Lantiziaevery now and then I feel the need to double check that hasn't actually already happened :PJan 10 21:20
schestowitzthey have been quieter about this for monthsJan 10 21:20
schestowitzduring summer it was non-stop Microsoft stuff in their official  blogJan 10 21:20
Lantizianever knew about this bug #1 thing though - that was odd to read his closing commentJan 10 21:20
Lantiziai resisted ubuntu for a long time sticking with debian thoughJan 10 21:20
psydroidI've replaced almost all of my ubuntu installations with debianJan 10 21:24
Lantiziai've never used it for servers thank godJan 10 21:24
psydroidnow that I know that running Debian unstable doesn't run worse than Ubuntu and gives you the latest packages tooJan 10 21:25
LantiziaI never really considered that as an option... i do remember running sidux for a while thoughJan 10 21:26
psydroidwell, on my primary machines I stick to Debian stable, but for testing and seeing where things are going I used to have Ubuntu 6-monthly releases installedJan 10 21:28
Lantizianot that adventurous... I only run the LTS's... and even then the MATE versionJan 10 21:28
Lantiziadespite my loathing for ubuntu-specific PPA's and snaps... sometimes if you're after a software authors most official/canonical (pardon the pun) way of installing/using their creation... you're sometimes left with only a snap/ppa to turn to.Jan 10 21:30
Lantiziaarch has always had me tempted though... not sure how well maintained all those community scripts are mind youJan 10 21:30
Lantiziai'm wondering how many centos users will flock to debian with the recent-ish news... or if they'll gamble on rocky (like they initially gambled on centos)Jan 10 21:31
psydroidI get that, which is why I still install (k)ubuntu for others, but I'm wondering if there is a migration path to something else that is easy enough for them to use and maintain without becoming a gnu/Linux expertJan 10 21:31
psydroidI have several relatives running ubuntu on their laptops and desktops and especially these days I don't see them very often and can't really help them with problemsJan 10 21:33
Lantiziayeah it'd be nice... especially since ubuntu isn't particularly any easier/nicer to use than anything else any more... just slightly more tested/developed for... i mean the lure used to be a well crafted 'Software Centre' and good desktop environment... both of which are kind of bust lolJan 10 21:33
Lantizia(not a fan of GNOME 3.x :P)Jan 10 21:33
psydroidneither am I, but I used GNOME 2.x during the period from 2010 till 2012, because KDE 4 was thoroughly broken for the first few point releasesJan 10 21:36
Lantiziai keep meaning to take another look at KDE (last time was the early 4 releases) or at least one of those lighter Qt based DE'sJan 10 21:37
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Lantiziatbh I don't think the MATE guys really care about fixing really fundamental flaws in GNOME 2... the file manager is absolutely riddled with issues for exampleJan 10 21:38
Lantiziait feels like the effort is mostly updating the code to gtk+ 3 and adding a gloss of paintJan 10 21:38
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psydroidoh, I don't really follow its development, but I am somewhat familiar with it from OpenBSD and OpenindianaJan 10 21:40
psydroidI thought the developers were a bit more proactive when it comes to fixing issues, but maybe they don't have the time and the skills needed for thatJan 10 21:41
DaemonFC[m]All these people my mom knows on Facebook are stunned that Apple is removing Parler from their phones.Jan 10 21:42
DaemonFC[m]They did not just remove it from the App Store, they are removing previously installed Parler apps from iPhones.Jan 10 21:42
Lantiziaooooh (after googling it) **that's** why I'd never heard of itJan 10 21:43
DaemonFC[m]I used that to comment that Apple has a remote backdoor and total control of the iPhone, and since it is impossible to install apps from anywhere else, Apple has total control. A power that they can only have because iOS is proprietary software.Jan 10 21:43
DaemonFC[m]That the possibility of doing something like this had been there for years and that people are only now realizing how it can be turned on them.Jan 10 21:44
psydroid"Stallman was right" for the umpteenth timeJan 10 21:45
Lantiziasimilar to amazon removing 1984 from people's kindlesJan 10 21:48
Lantiziawhich was a REALLY poor choice to demonstrate a move like that on :PJan 10 21:49
kingoffrancemac had trash can IIRC, win recycle bin, early next had a black hole, i guess memory hole is the new icon for deleting stuff :)Jan 10 21:50
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20071544Jan 10 21:56
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MinceRthey even had a TrashCan Pro >> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8248HZtuQS8/maxresdefault.jpgJan 10 21:57
LantiziaMinceR, for the joke to work... don't they need the labels switching?Jan 10 21:59
MinceRยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏJan 10 21:59
MinceRi think it's enough for their product to look the way it does and have the quality it has :>Jan 10 21:59
kingoffranceit needs to be a perfect 360 hole and $2000 case for the joke to workJan 10 22:00
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Lantiziafeel like I'm missing something... fundraiser ?Jan 10 22:39
DaemonFC[m]Conservatives have finally figured out what Apple's malicious proprietary software can do, but instead of learning a lesson, they're trying to disable software updates on their phone, as if that's a robust solution that will continue to work, if it even does in the first place.Jan 10 22:41
DaemonFC[m]They should take time to reflect on the poor choice to support Apple with their money and contemplate whether an "easy" computer that gives them no rights at all is their best option.Jan 10 22:41
DaemonFC[m]Regardless of the side of the political aisle you're on, they've finally shown what they can do with their enormous power and why they could never be trusted to wield such power. Proprietary software must be defeated once and for all.Jan 10 22:44
Lantiziaoooh https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2020-12-31-happier-gnu-year.en.htmlJan 10 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org | ::[FSFLA]:: Happier GNU Year!Jan 10 22:44
Lantiziaso what - he resigned because he thought he was wrong to convince people to rejoin FSF with a message of wanting RMS back?Jan 10 22:45
DaemonFC[m]Horrifically, while Windows 10 market share has gone down, many of the people who have abandoned it have chosen macOS, which recently changed hardware platforms and has clamped down even harder on desktop computer users, to make it more like the iPhone trash and their App Store monopoly. Even if it is possible to crack the Mac OS now, Apple can simply make it impossible to compile software that works on it that is noJan 10 22:45
DaemonFC[m]hosted in their App Store. A power that not even Microsoft currently deploys on Windows 10 (but could in a future update).Jan 10 22:45
DaemonFC[m]The power of the remote backdoor that Richard Stallman warned of many years ago is now on display in full force, and it will not end with conservatives or the national emergency that a splinter group caused, creating casus belli against users of computing platforms.Jan 10 22:47
LantiziaDaemonFC[m], a better question is... if (hypothetically) this 'Parler' was a progressive webapp... and essentially the icon was just a shortcut to open a safari bookmark... do you think Apple would have deleted that "bookmark" ? :DJan 10 22:47
DaemonFC[m]The fact is, that they can stop you from loading a website in Safari by blocking it at the platform level, and since they do not allow other browsers to use their own rendering engines, they only have to implement the blockade in the firmware and it would destroy Parler in other iPhone browsers (which are really skins more than programs).Jan 10 22:49
DaemonFC[m]So, no, being a "Progressive Web App" would not help Parler.Jan 10 22:49
Lantiziaright but if apple is (I'm guessing here) claiming some nonsense like, oh... apps on a phone with updates enabled... sync with the app store... and if it's not on the app store - that sync removes the app... or whatever nonsense they make up to explain itJan 10 22:50
Lantiziawith a bookmark... that's a URL of the users own choice - not from any app storeJan 10 22:51
DaemonFC[m]The problem is that the iOS is a malicious program that is not under the direct control of the user. The user can do what they are permitted to do by Apple. Jan 10 22:51
Lantiziaso if the WebKit engine blocks rendering that URLJan 10 22:51
Lantiziathat's a comment on taste lolJan 10 22:51
DaemonFC[m]This isn't the first time they've bullied a website by threatening to throw it out of their App Store. They got Tumblr to ruin itself and make it unusable even for people without iPhones.Jan 10 22:51
DaemonFC[m]Apple's damage to general purpose computing is a dirty bomb that even affects people who are not jailed by Apple devices.Jan 10 22:52
DaemonFC[m]They call modifying the iOS so that it runs other apps "jailbreaking" and that's because the user is in a jail by default. It's not me making up terms here. That's the accepted language. People admit that Apple is a jail.Jan 10 22:53
Lantiziai'm just saying people were under no illusion who runs the app store and how it has apple policies governing it (and they write those policies however they like)... and if apple wants to claim they extend to "syncing" with installed apps... people might buy into that.Jan 10 22:53
DaemonFC[m]And Apple delights in sabotaging and ruining devices where people have done this. So that's not a solution either.Jan 10 22:54
LantiziaBut loading up your favourite website (on any browser, OS or device) and the BROWSER telling you... "You know this is some far-right shit, yes?... do you want to continue?"Jan 10 22:54
Lantiziawell that'd be another level :PJan 10 22:54
DaemonFC[m]People should break out of the "crystal prison" of the iPhone and ruin Apple. Vote with your money and with your feet, or it will embolden them to get even worse.Jan 10 22:55
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: ^Jan 10 22:55
DaemonFC[m]<Lantizia "i'm just saying people were unde"> Apple has instituted policies that amount to "polite fascism" for years, by restraining themselves to "nudging" people and poisoning apps and websites behind the scenes. The only thing that's changed is that they've openly destroyed someone's business just as it was gaining more attention.Jan 10 22:56
kingoffranceisnt that already the case? browser warns site xyz has been used for phishing attempts/whatever ?Jan 10 22:56
Lantiziawell that's more under the pretence of the technical security of the computer... not the sanity of the user :PJan 10 22:57
DaemonFC[m]I would say "Create a forum that doesn't even need Javascript, and host it as a Tor Service, and flip Apple and the government the middle finger." except the iOS doesn't allow people to use Tor, at all.Jan 10 22:58
Lantiziait'd be like a spam filter blocking a conservative newsletter you yourself subscribed to... that's be odd... but blocking it for having a virus in it - we're kinda fine with thatJan 10 22:58
Lantizia*that'dJan 10 22:59
DaemonFC[m]I'm not a fan of the Republicans/conservative ideology, but the only thing that pisses me off more than them is the government manipulating people like this, and their corporate enablers going along with it in exchange for continued monopoly status and not having to pay taxes. Which is why these companies do these things.Jan 10 23:00
MinceR(cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/34325d63a3578e46.mp4Jan 10 23:01
DaemonFC[m]They know which way the wind is blowing. Trump will be gone in 10 days and there will be nobody protecting them if they continue allowing him to backseat president and foment violent uprisings.Jan 10 23:01
DaemonFC[m]This is the epitome of cowardice. If he had managed to be re-elected, then in the alt-world, these companies would have done absolutely nothing to shut him up.Jan 10 23:02
Lantiziaand?Jan 10 23:05
DaemonFC[m]The Democrats probably will repeal Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Trump wanted it, but they weren't going to give it to him while they could do it themselves 21 days later.Jan 10 23:06
DaemonFC[m]But conservatives should be horrified by that, because if they think de-platforming is bad now, they ought to get a load of what will happen if social networks can be sued for millions of dollars over any post that might have caused someone harm.Jan 10 23:06
DaemonFC[m]It won't just be impossible to keep them on, it will be impossible to run a company without intense "moderation" of anything. Including automoderation which removes content that it thinks might be sketchy.Jan 10 23:07
Lantiziaif the internet is the equivalent to the planet... then facebook is the equivalent to a not-so-exclusive club... who can come in is up to the bouncer, what can be said is up to the house rules... if you don't like it - go to another club.Jan 10 23:07
Lantiziawhat really needs to be taught better is... facebook != everyone, facebook != internetJan 10 23:08
Lantiziaand swap out other social networks as neededJan 10 23:08
Lantiziawhat you see if a version of what there isJan 10 23:08
Lantizia*is a versionJan 10 23:08
DaemonFC[m]Right, I would not be surprised if what ends up happening is Americans flocking to foreign social networks like VKontakte.Jan 10 23:09
DaemonFC[m]It's Russian, but there's an English language version and our government has no control over it.Jan 10 23:09
Lantiziathe moment the expectations of something of facebook... to be fair, to aid in social mobility, to judge one bit of free speech over another, to police content, to be completely without opinion or non-partisan, etc...Jan 10 23:11
Lantiziais the moment people are hoping facebook becomes some kind of micro governmentJan 10 23:11
Lantiziawhich only legitimises it allJan 10 23:11
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XRevan86MinceR: at least not plasticJan 10 23:22
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