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starstreaksmoke weed every day!Sep 13 00:06
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> smoke weed every day! <- 424/7?Sep 13 00:12
highest_cubist_thrills153405Sep 13 00:13
highest_cubist_thrillsthats 420 times 365.25Sep 13 00:14
starstreakmy lungs are my... ATTack SUrfaCESep 13 00:17
highest_cubist_thrillslolSep 13 00:17
highest_cubist_thrills"lets get two big industrial windmills, i already got one-- who needs three? well the first one, i broke it!"Sep 13 00:18
starstreakspeaking of attack surface.. i changed my malware bootloader from brave to firefoxSep 13 00:18
highest_cubist_thrills^ snoop, black umbrellaSep 13 00:18
highest_cubist_thrills"samurai!"Sep 13 00:18
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highest_cubist_thrills"gonna get DUMB and bang a wiz-ARD, were gonna have a bonfire tonight-- yeah, yeah, yeah were smokin the right stuff!"-- mileySep 13 00:20
starstreak"That's crazy man, have you ever tried DMT?" -Joe RoganSep 13 00:20
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highest_cubist_thrills"now why on earth did you treat me? as if i didnt understand trigonometry and tai chi?"Sep 13 00:21
highest_cubist_thrills"inverse cosign-- omigosh! theres never gonna be a better padawan than me!"Sep 13 00:21
highest_cubist_thrillssineSep 13 00:22
highest_cubist_thrillsattack cosineSep 13 00:22
highest_cubist_thrillsi guess an inverse cosign would be if the bank wanted to get another manager to back them up Sep 13 00:23
highest_cubist_thrills"im not sure i can approve this loan without my managers signature too"Sep 13 00:23
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe the manager has to sign it upside downSep 13 00:24
highest_cubist_thrills"That's crazy man, have you ever tried DMT?" -Joe Rogan <- im waiting for elon musk to grow mushrooms in space and bring them to try with joe rogan on the podcastSep 13 00:25
highest_cubist_thrills"wow, you grew these in space?"Sep 13 00:25
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highest_cubist_thrills"yeah, i mean i think so, i was pretty fucking high at the time"Sep 13 00:25
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highest_cubist_thrills"were you in the spacex thing?"Sep 13 00:26
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highest_cubist_thrills"no, my tesla is pressurised and i was going REALLY FAST"Sep 13 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsroads! where were going we dont need... roadsSep 13 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsthough it does require an orbital charging stationSep 13 00:27
highest_cubist_thrills/me can totally see musk making a "mr fusion" back to the future tesla power supply that runs on weed thoughSep 13 00:27
highest_cubist_thrillsitll have a flux capacitor that instead of just being a Y its shaped like a pot leafSep 13 00:28
highest_cubist_thrills"and the lights are green, too"Sep 13 00:28
highest_cubist_thrillsjoe rogan "i gotta get one of these"Sep 13 00:29
highest_cubist_thrillscheech marin is going to want a royalty checkSep 13 00:30
highest_cubist_thrills"yo we totally did this already, man"Sep 13 00:30
highest_cubist_thrillstommy chong: "yeah... did what?"Sep 13 00:30
highest_cubist_thrills"the truck, you know?"Sep 13 00:30
highest_cubist_thrills"ohhhhhh. yeah, thats was cool"Sep 13 00:30
highest_cubist_thrills/me makes a car that runs on dog shitSep 13 00:34
highest_cubist_thrillsif youre running low you just have to pull up close to the sidewalkSep 13 00:34
highest_cubist_thrillsthen the scooper extends, drops it into the fuel loader...Sep 13 00:35
highest_cubist_thrillsyoure good for another 50 milesSep 13 00:35
highest_cubist_thrillsa big dog gets you 80Sep 13 00:35
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highest_cubist_thrillsthere are two modelsSep 13 00:36
highest_cubist_thrillsone runs on openbsdSep 13 00:36
highest_cubist_thrillsthe other uses arch btwSep 13 00:37
highest_cubist_thrills/me is going to make a derivative of arch called "arch btw"Sep 13 00:37
MinceR13 013436 < highest_cubist_thrills> /me makes a car that runs on dog shitSep 13 00:42
MinceRMr. FusionSep 13 00:42
starstreakim going to make a derivative called Arch LinucksSep 13 00:42
MinceRyou can even toss the dog into Mr. FusionSep 13 00:42
highest_cubist_thrills/me doesnt hate dogs that muchSep 13 00:43
MinceRand it will be both cleaner and more useful than it otherwise ever could beSep 13 00:43
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe the sony aiboSep 13 00:43
highest_cubist_thrills/me doesnt even hate robots that muchSep 13 00:43
highest_cubist_thrillsjust the ones i talk to on the phoneSep 13 00:43
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i want to throw them down a wellSep 13 00:44
starstreaklolSep 13 00:46
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starstreakhttps://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/Sep 13 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-awesomekling.github.io | Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project – Andreas Kling – I like computers!Sep 13 00:54
highest_cubist_thrillsdoes it run on a c64?Sep 13 00:55
highest_cubist_thrills/me tries to guess how awesomekling is pronouncedSep 13 00:55
highest_cubist_thrills"awesome kaling"Sep 13 00:56
starstreakon a c64? lolSep 13 00:56
highest_cubist_thrills"its actually just pronounced 'awesome', all the other letters are silent"Sep 13 00:56
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> on a c64? lol <- its cross platformSep 13 00:57
starstreaki dont even think lynx would run on c64Sep 13 00:57
highest_cubist_thrillsnot exactlySep 13 00:59
highest_cubist_thrillshttps://commodore.software/downloads/category/115-ultimate-lynxSep 13 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-commodore.software | Commodore Software - Ultimate LynxSep 13 00:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▁▂▃▆▅▁▂▇▆▇▃▅▅▅▄▄▄▁▂▄▃▂▃▁▅▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.00 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▁▂▁▃▁▂▁█▁▂▁▁▁▁▁█▁▂▁█▁▁█▁▁█▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 53.75▕ swarm size (avg): 162.45  ⟲Sep 13 00:59
XRevan86starstreak: That's an ambitious project, pretty cool.Sep 13 00:59
starstreakgenerally i dont assume stuff would work for c64 because its 40 years oldSep 13 00:59
highest_cubist_thrillsit works with roy and hes 40 years oldSep 13 01:00
highest_cubist_thrillsThe Lynx was an 8-bit British home computer that was first released in early 1983 as a 48 kB model. [5] Several models were available with 48 kB, 96 kB or 128 kB RAM. It was possible to reach 192 kB with RAM expansions on board. John Shireff designed the hardware and Davis Jansons the firmware.Sep 13 01:00
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: On which Roy's body part Lynx is capable of running?Sep 13 01:01
highest_cubist_thrills<XRevan86> highest_cubist_thrills: On which Roy's body part Lynx is capable of running? <- thats a very personal questionSep 13 01:03
highest_cubist_thrillsalso i think he requires an adapter of some kindSep 13 01:03
highest_cubist_thrillsalso i said "works with" not "runs on"Sep 13 01:03
XRevan86So does that mean that Commodore 64 can also "work with" Lynx?Sep 13 01:04
highest_cubist_thrillsalmost without question, its a matter of how close you can get them togetherSep 13 01:04
highest_cubist_thrillsand whether it would qualifySep 13 01:05
highest_cubist_thrillsi think its natalie wynn that said a woman using a hammer becomes woman-with-hammerSep 13 01:07
highest_cubist_thrillsso roy using lynx would become roy-with-lynxSep 13 01:07
highest_cubist_thrillsthis a non-essentialist view but there are countless points in favor of this both in the tech community and other contexts i neednt mention hereSep 13 01:08
highest_cubist_thrillsi think the subject was transhumanismSep 13 01:08
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highest_cubist_thrillsits not so much that i find the argument perfectly sways meSep 13 01:09
highest_cubist_thrillsas there are plenty of reasonable examples prior to the argument being made that make it a little less ridiculous than it soundsSep 13 01:09
highest_cubist_thrillseven when you drive a carSep 13 01:10
highest_cubist_thrillsthe car becomes an extension of your bodySep 13 01:10
highest_cubist_thrillsand you interface with it like its an extension of your bodySep 13 01:10
highest_cubist_thrillsnot at firstSep 13 01:10
highest_cubist_thrillsbut at the point where you stop thinking about the car-- and only think about drivingSep 13 01:10
highest_cubist_thrillsthe way you interface with your own body is the sameSep 13 01:11
highest_cubist_thrillsi meanSep 13 01:11
highest_cubist_thrillsif you lose an arm, and get a robot armSep 13 01:11
MinceR13 020741 < highest_cubist_thrills> so roy using lynx would become roy-with-lynxSep 13 01:12
MinceRearth-with-plasticSep 13 01:12
highest_cubist_thrillsdo you use it (conceptually) the same way you use your other arm, or is there some truly fundamental conceptual difference due to the fact that its artificialSep 13 01:12
MinceRbut can you run Lynx on a Camputers Lynx connected with an Atari Lynx?Sep 13 01:13
starstreakis there a gui version of lynxSep 13 01:13
highest_cubist_thrillsbut can you run Lynx on a Camputers Lynx connected with an Atari Lynx? <- the real question is can  you run lynx on an actual lynx? and will it maul you if you trySep 13 01:13
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> is there a gui version of lynx <- theres a gui version of elinksSep 13 01:14
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can run lynx on a gui term windowSep 13 01:14
highest_cubist_thrillswhat is lynxSep 13 01:14
highest_cubist_thrills(baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no more)Sep 13 01:14
starstreakits a text browserSep 13 01:14
highest_cubist_thrillsi know, ive used itSep 13 01:15
starstreaki just use firefoxSep 13 01:15
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can run lynx in firefoxSep 13 01:15
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can even run arch btwSep 13 01:17
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 01:20
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> i just use firefox <- does it run on a c64?Sep 13 01:23
starstreaki dont have a c64 so idgafSep 13 01:25
MinceRyou'd need a lot of c64-s just to keep a bit of it in RAMSep 13 01:26
starstreakthe crappiest computer that I own is a raspi zero wSep 13 01:26
MinceRi'm not sure if you could even help it out with swapSep 13 01:26
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure youd need more c64s every time they made a new versionSep 13 01:26
highest_cubist_thrillsit keeps loner busySep 13 01:26
MinceR:>Sep 13 01:26
MinceRthe slowest computer i own that isn't a microcontroller is probably a sinclair zx spectrum that i haven't even taken out of the cupboard in decadesSep 13 01:27
highest_cubist_thrillsif you think he spends a lot of time waxing nostalgic about the third reich, you should see how much time he spends on ebaySep 13 01:27
highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> the slowest computer i own that isn't a microcontroller is probably a sinclair zx spectrum <- i really love the idea of lightweight hardware, i doSep 13 01:28
highest_cubist_thrillswith that saidSep 13 01:28
highest_cubist_thrillsif i wanted to go back to 8bit, id just go back to 8bitSep 13 01:28
highest_cubist_thrillsmy main regrets about not spending more time with itSep 13 01:28
highest_cubist_thrillsstem from the fact that people who played with 8bit tended to become more familar with the hardwareSep 13 01:29
highest_cubist_thrillsand that familiarity often followed them through more elaborate models as hardware increased in complexitySep 13 01:29
highest_cubist_thrillsso today they know more about hardware in generalSep 13 01:29
highest_cubist_thrillssimply getting a c64 (ive played with a few of them) wouldnt fix thisSep 13 01:29
highest_cubist_thrillsid have to spend many years learning about them and other computersSep 13 01:30
MinceRyeah, 8bit is not enough for meSep 13 01:30
highest_cubist_thrillsi really like dynamic typingSep 13 01:30
MinceRi would stick to unix workstation class stuffSep 13 01:30
highest_cubist_thrillsi really like flat memory addressingSep 13 01:30
highest_cubist_thrillsso i meanSep 13 01:30
MinceRi prefer virtual memory and memory protectionSep 13 01:30
highest_cubist_thrillsa few years ago, i really wanted to put debian on a 486Sep 13 01:31
highest_cubist_thrillsokay, like closer to 10 years agoSep 13 01:31
highest_cubist_thrillsand i used to have a 486, they used to be easier to findSep 13 01:31
highest_cubist_thrillscan i get one from ebay? sure, but theyre heavySep 13 01:31
highest_cubist_thrillsthat makes shipping costlySep 13 01:31
highest_cubist_thrillscan i get a 486 laptop? sure, that makes it less likely to have the loads of ram i wantSep 13 01:32
highest_cubist_thrillsreally putting together a 486 thats good for anything i want to do with itSep 13 01:32
highest_cubist_thrillsis a helly of a lot trickier to do than it is to just get a pentiumSep 13 01:32
highest_cubist_thrillsreally a hell of a lotSep 13 01:32
highest_cubist_thrillsso what do i get if i go 486?Sep 13 01:33
highest_cubist_thrillsfuck if i knowSep 13 01:33
highest_cubist_thrillsi ran an 8088 onceSep 13 01:33
highest_cubist_thrillslearned to code on itSep 13 01:33
highest_cubist_thrillswhat am i going to do with thatSep 13 01:34
techrights-news"Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 752 for the week of September 4 – 10, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/09/12/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-752/ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/09/12/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-752/Sep 13 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 752Sep 13 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 752Sep 13 01:34
highest_cubist_thrillswhy not something with more power?Sep 13 01:34
highest_cubist_thrillsreal (practical) questions yield the best answers hereSep 13 01:34
highest_cubist_thrillsand if you have an ideology, thats great-- you should still ask the right questions that yield the answers that make senseSep 13 01:35
highest_cubist_thrillslike herr doktor wants a chipset that you can design on paperSep 13 01:35
highest_cubist_thrillsthats fineSep 13 01:35
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont think he will ever fucking build thatSep 13 01:35
highest_cubist_thrillsjust to come here and whinge about how hitler is dead, wah wahSep 13 01:36
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i designed this cpu with paper and pencil!Sep 13 01:36
highest_cubist_thrillsnot with a pen?Sep 13 01:36
highest_cubist_thrillsno, pens are a stupid western conspiracySep 13 01:36
highest_cubist_thrillsink is for idiotsSep 13 01:37
starstreakhighest_cubist_thrills, do you use gemini?Sep 13 01:37
highest_cubist_thrillsim a fan of gemini, i told you about my adventures trying to get gemini running initiallySep 13 01:37
highest_cubist_thrillsi havent given up, its just not a prioritySep 13 01:37
highest_cubist_thrillsi think i also told you what i do in the meantimeSep 13 01:37
starstreaki just updated my gemini capsule todaySep 13 01:38
highest_cubist_thrillsthats awesomeSep 13 01:38
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont go on gemini much yetSep 13 01:38
highest_cubist_thrillsi have a clientSep 13 01:38
highest_cubist_thrillsit worksSep 13 01:38
highest_cubist_thrillsi use it infrequentlySep 13 01:38
starstreaki use lagrange btwSep 13 01:38
highest_cubist_thrillslolSep 13 01:38
highest_cubist_thrillsi think i tried installing itSep 13 01:39
highest_cubist_thrillsjust to try itSep 13 01:39
highest_cubist_thrillsid never use that behemoth regularlySep 13 01:39
starstreakbehemoth?Sep 13 01:39
highest_cubist_thrillsthere are fewer clients for openbsd, i ended up making one from spart partsSep 13 01:39
highest_cubist_thrillslagrange uses opengl doesnt it?Sep 13 01:39
starstreakSDLSep 13 01:40
MinceRQ: Did you hear about the constipated mathematician? A: He worked it out with a pencil.Sep 13 01:40
highest_cubist_thrillsclassicSep 13 01:40
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 3 Ways to Screenshot Right-Click Context Menus on Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/3_Ways_to_Screenshot_Right_Click_Context_Menus_on_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/3_Ways_to_Screenshot_Right_Click_Context_Menus_on_Linux.gmi ∎Sep 13 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 3 Ways to Screenshot Right-Click Context Menus on LinuxSep 13 01:40
starstreaklagrange seemed quick and lightweightSep 13 01:40
highest_cubist_thrillsfor what the protocol requires, lagrange is comically oversizedSep 13 01:40
highest_cubist_thrillslike running gnome on a ti-83Sep 13 01:41
starstreakhow big is it?Sep 13 01:41
highest_cubist_thrillsit uses several librariesSep 13 01:41
highest_cubist_thrillsa gemini client doesnt need so many librariesSep 13 01:41
highest_cubist_thrillsit doesnt need a gui eitherSep 13 01:41
highest_cubist_thrillsim not against people using a gui to do geminiSep 13 01:41
highest_cubist_thrillsbut really, whats larger than lagrange?Sep 13 01:42
starstreaki have it loaded and it uses 32mb of ramSep 13 01:42
highest_cubist_thrillsit might be the largest client there isSep 13 01:42
highest_cubist_thrillsso thats not so much ramSep 13 01:42
starstreak32mb of ram is too big?Sep 13 01:42
techrights-news"Let's look back at amusing story from Linux history, while Linux isn't perfect today this operating system used to be a usability nightmare for the average person." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DJiSDeGoLAQSep 13 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Was Once A Terrible Operating System - InvidiousSep 13 01:42
highest_cubist_thrillsbut these are the early daysSep 13 01:42
highest_cubist_thrillsif it uses 32 now it will be 80 or 90 soonSep 13 01:42
starstreakhexchat uses about 50Sep 13 01:42
starstreakdiscord uses 400mbSep 13 01:43
highest_cubist_thrillsdiscord is ridiculousSep 13 01:43
highest_cubist_thrillsbut your hexchat comparison is reasonableSep 13 01:43
highest_cubist_thrillsthats a fair point Sep 13 01:43
highest_cubist_thrillsi used to use sdlSep 13 01:43
highest_cubist_thrillsfwiwSep 13 01:43
highest_cubist_thrillsmy own projects used itSep 13 01:43
MinceRi used sdl onceSep 13 01:44
starstreaki remember installing lagrange and it didnt pull in very much for depsSep 13 01:44
MinceRbut that was a gameSep 13 01:44
highest_cubist_thrillsbut they were using it for graphicsSep 13 01:44
MinceRsdl is much better suited for games than for browsersSep 13 01:44
highest_cubist_thrills"dude, have you ever like tried sdl?"-- joe roganSep 13 01:44
techrights-newsAt the cost/toll of toolchain bloat https://www.phoronix.com/news/LPC-2022-Rust-Linux also, they're becoming attached to Microsoft proprietary software, censorship etc.Sep 13 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LPC 2022: Rust Linux Drivers Capable Of Achieving Performance Comparable To C Code - PhoronixSep 13 01:44
starstreakSDL gives it the smooth scrollingSep 13 01:44
MinceR"hitler took the sdl" -- alex jonesSep 13 01:44
highest_cubist_thrillssdl is making frogs gay!Sep 13 01:44
highest_cubist_thrillswhenever i hear "smooth scrolling" i stick my fingers in my ears Sep 13 01:45
MinceRsomething should give it good font rendering with configurable fonts tooSep 13 01:45
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont remember what kind of scrolling existed before smooth scrollingSep 13 01:45
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it seemed smooth enough Sep 13 01:45
techrights-newsMicrosoft junk creeping into Linux https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/59960918-0adb-6d53-2d77-8172e666bf40@paragon-software.com/Sep 13 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 0/3] fs/ntfs3: Refactoring and hidedotfiles option - Konstantin KomarovSep 13 01:45
highest_cubist_thrillshttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=6Whgn_iE5ucSep 13 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Santana - Smooth ft. Rob Thomas (Official Video) - InvidiousSep 13 01:46
starstreakkristal seemed shitty to me, probably cuz its for kdeSep 13 01:46
techrights-news'Linux' Foundation openwashing for Microsoft https://www.datanami.com/2022/09/12/linkedin-donates-feature-store-to-linux-foundation/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_FoundationSep 13 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datanami.com | LinkedIn Donates Feature Store to Linux FoundationSep 13 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsSep 13 01:47
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah i dont think ill ever use kde againSep 13 01:48
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont even classify it as free software anymoreSep 13 01:48
starstreakwhy?Sep 13 01:48
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause any project that took part in a conspiracy to destroy the free software movement needs to be forked before it qualifies as giving a shit about freedomSep 13 01:49
highest_cubist_thrillsand if it doesnt give a shit about freedom, its probably better off being labelled "open source"Sep 13 01:49
highest_cubist_thrillsas a warning.Sep 13 01:49
highest_cubist_thrillssurgeons general warning: this project will probably make fun of you for comparing telemetry to spyware, cancel your leaders, stab you in the back, and lie about everything while sucking off corporationsSep 13 01:50
highest_cubist_thrillswho needs itSep 13 01:50
highest_cubist_thrillsfuck kdeSep 13 01:50
highest_cubist_thrillstraitorsSep 13 01:50
highest_cubist_thrillsand bloat anywaySep 13 01:51
starstreakwhat conspiracy?Sep 13 01:51
highest_cubist_thrillsreally?Sep 13 01:51
highest_cubist_thrills/me waves hand around the domain nameSep 13 01:51
highest_cubist_thrillshave you seen this website?Sep 13 01:51
starstreakyeahSep 13 01:51
highest_cubist_thrillshow about gnu.toolsSep 13 01:51
highest_cubist_thrillsaka gnu.foolsSep 13 01:51
highest_cubist_thrillshow about https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/Sep 13 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wwahammy.com | Is LibrePlanet Safe?Sep 13 01:52
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): AMD Utilizes User-Space Hinting To Achieve Faster EPYC CPU Performance in Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/AMD_Utilizes_User_Space_Hinting_To_Achieve_Faster_EPYC_CPU_Perf.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/AMD_Utilizes_User_Space_Hinting_To_Achieve_Faster_EPYC_CPU_Perf.gmi ∎Sep 13 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — AMD Utilizes User-Space Hinting To Achieve Faster EPYC CPU Performance in LinuxSep 13 01:52
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause its been going on ever since thenSep 13 01:52
starstreaki use arch/gnome/wayland/systemd/pipewireSep 13 01:53
starstreaki even use systemd-bootSep 13 01:53
highest_cubist_thrillsi know, youre fucking weirdSep 13 01:53
starstreakits free software idgafSep 13 01:53
highest_cubist_thrillsno no no noSep 13 01:53
highest_cubist_thrillsonce you add "idgaf" it isnt free at allSep 13 01:53
highest_cubist_thrillsyou cant have free AND idgafSep 13 01:53
highest_cubist_thrillsit wont workSep 13 01:53
highest_cubist_thrillsindeed it doesntSep 13 01:54
highest_cubist_thrillsidgaf destroyed the movementSep 13 01:54
highest_cubist_thrillsits deadSep 13 01:54
highest_cubist_thrillsdeadSep 13 01:54
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause ngafSep 13 01:54
starstreakmaybe im weirdSep 13 01:54
starstreaki'd much rather use macOSSep 13 01:54
highest_cubist_thrillsgive it a few years, who knows what will happenSep 13 01:54
highest_cubist_thrillssystemd is microsoft Sep 13 01:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 13 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Security LeftoversSep 13 01:55
highest_cubist_thrillsgithub and lennart is a fucking employeeSep 13 01:55
highest_cubist_thrillsgnome is microsoftSep 13 01:55
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre basically hitmenSep 13 01:55
highest_cubist_thrillsif the mafia made an operating systemSep 13 01:55
highest_cubist_thrillsthats what youre usingSep 13 01:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and Debuginfod ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_Debuginfod.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_Debuginfod.gmi ∎Sep 13 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and DebuginfodSep 13 01:55
highest_cubist_thrillsi use openbsd, btwSep 13 01:55
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its only a step in the right directionSep 13 01:56
schestowitz[TR]what happend to gnome OS?Sep 13 01:56
highest_cubist_thrillsonly a jump away from this fucking messSep 13 01:56
schestowitz[TR]not a work about it in yearsSep 13 01:56
schestowitz[TR]at least a yearSep 13 01:56
highest_cubist_thrillsand then a step the riiiiiiiiiightSep 13 01:56
starstreakschestowitz[TR], they just turned gnome into gnomeOSSep 13 01:56
highest_cubist_thrillswhat happend to gnome OS? <- its called debian nowSep 13 01:56
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Sep 13 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosSep 13 01:56
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> schestowitz[TR], they just turned gnome into gnomeOS <- i was calling it gnome os before that, and i wasnt the only oneSep 13 01:57
techrights-newsProprietary https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/apple-fixes-10-bugs-including-two-zero-days-under-exploit.htmlSep 13 01:57
MinceR13 025516 < highest_cubist_thrills> gnome is microsoft Sep 13 01:57
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause it isSep 13 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Apple fixes 10 bugs including two zero-days under exploitSep 13 01:57
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/pYuj8tW.pngSep 13 01:57
starstreaki actually like gnome thoSep 13 01:57
highest_cubist_thrillsif you made gnome into a godforsaken operating system...Sep 13 01:57
MinceRyeah, you've made it clear that you like crap :>Sep 13 01:57
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> i actually like gnome tho <- that IS weirdSep 13 01:57
techrights-newsVMware fraud https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/vmware-pays-fine-to-settle-sec-charge-of-misleading-investors.htmlSep 13 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - VMware pays fine to settle SEC charge of misleading investorsSep 13 01:58
highest_cubist_thrillsits funny, bcause i know youre always going to be like thisSep 13 01:58
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i like you anywaySep 13 01:58
starstreaklots of people like gnomeSep 13 01:58
techrights-newsHow To Access The Dark Web (Using Tor) - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zQW3MdF25B8 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/zQW3MdF25B8Sep 13 01:58
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre weird tooSep 13 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How To Access The Dark Web (Using Tor) - InvidiousSep 13 01:59
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starstreaklolSep 13 01:59
highest_cubist_thrillseven im weird, but everybody knows thatSep 13 01:59
starstreakwhat do you use again?Sep 13 01:59
highest_cubist_thrillsthats the differenceSep 13 01:59
highest_cubist_thrillsthey dont know theyre weird...Sep 13 01:59
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highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> what do you use again? <- i dontSep 13 01:59
starstreakfvwm?Sep 13 01:59
highest_cubist_thrillsgnome and kde are redundant layers of bloatSep 13 01:59
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont use oneSep 13 02:00
highest_cubist_thrillsoh, window managerSep 13 02:00
highest_cubist_thrillsdwmSep 13 02:00
starstreakah okSep 13 02:00
highest_cubist_thrillsonly because icewm brings in shit from gnomeSep 13 02:00
highest_cubist_thrillsbut really at this point id hate going backSep 13 02:00
highest_cubist_thrillsif you find a tiling wm you likeSep 13 02:00
highest_cubist_thrillsthe idea of having to move and resize all your stupid little windows again is awfulSep 13 02:01
starstreaksway is supposed to be goodSep 13 02:01
highest_cubist_thrillseverything is supposed to be goodSep 13 02:01
highest_cubist_thrills"we know youre looking for an editor thats completely and utter shit, and finally we made you one!"Sep 13 02:01
highest_cubist_thrills"youll hate it, it wont do anything you want, it even requires systemd"Sep 13 02:02
highest_cubist_thrills"well at least it requires systemd1"Sep 13 02:02
highest_cubist_thrills"yeah, i mean thats one feature thats must-have these days"Sep 13 02:02
*starstreak formats laptop and installs freebsd and mateSep 13 02:02
highest_cubist_thrills"its probably very cutting edge!"Sep 13 02:02
highest_cubist_thrillsits too bad debian shafted mate like they didSep 13 02:03
highest_cubist_thrillsthey really are just gnomes little lapdogsSep 13 02:03
highest_cubist_thrillsdebian: another microsoft distroSep 13 02:03
MinceRi like being able to move and resize all my stupid little windowsSep 13 02:03
highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> i like being able to move and resize all my stupid little windows <- yes, in theory so do iSep 13 02:04
MinceRi tried i3 and didn't like itSep 13 02:04
highest_cubist_thrillsin practice, never again...Sep 13 02:04
MinceRi did write a script to resize/move windows into grid slots though, in case i wanted toSep 13 02:04
highest_cubist_thrillstechnically you can move and resize every stupid little window in dwmSep 13 02:04
highest_cubist_thrillsi just dont want toSep 13 02:04
techrights-newsApple easy to use? No! "It’s been a bit tricky to get running on Apple Silicon Macs" https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/diffusion-beeSep 13 02:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daringfireball.net | Daring Fireball: Diffusion Bee 1.0: Easy to Install Stable Diffusion for Apple Silicon MacsSep 13 02:04
MinceRand added a Grow button to my title bars, also to make use of empty areasSep 13 02:04
highest_cubist_thrills<MinceR> i did write a script to resize/move windows into grid slots though, in case i wanted to <- thats always funSep 13 02:04
highest_cubist_thrillsi was very impressed by what os/2 warp could do along these linesSep 13 02:04
highest_cubist_thrillsyour script is probably betterSep 13 02:04
highest_cubist_thrillsbeing decades newerSep 13 02:05
techrights-newsApple = clichesSep 13 02:05
highest_cubist_thrillshonestly its a farce that every window system wasnt scriptable from day 1Sep 13 02:05
techrights-newsTeachers’ Forum Condemns NCERT’s Decision to Remove Chapters on Climate Change | NewsClick ⚓ https://www.newsclick.in/Teacher-forum-condemns-NCERT-decision-remove-chapters-climate-change ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.newsclick.in/Teacher-forum-condemns-NCERT-decision-remove-chapters-climate-changeSep 13 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsclick.in | Teachers’ Forum Condemns NCERT’s Decision to Remove Chapters on Climate Change | NewsClickSep 13 02:05
techrights-newsHope is dead - neritam ⚓ https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/09/12/hope-is-dead/ ䷉ Source: Neritam/Michael MooreSep 13 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Hope is dead – neritamSep 13 02:06
highest_cubist_thrills/me moves one of his windows freely, then puts it backSep 13 02:07
techrights-news"When those who expose the crimes of the state are criminalized and sent to prison, tyranny is inevitable." https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/when-the-just-go-to-prisonSep 13 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrishedges.substack.com | When The Just Go to Prison - The Chris Hedges ReportSep 13 02:07
starstreaki like mate tooSep 13 02:07
highest_cubist_thrillsi liked gnome 2Sep 13 02:07
highest_cubist_thrillsit was the last good version of gnomeSep 13 02:07
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos Evolving GNU/Linux UIs, Installing Linux on a USB, and Accessing The Dark Web ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Evolving_GNU_Linux_UIs_Installing_Linux_on_a_USB_and_Acc.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Evolving_GNU_Linux_UIs_Installing_Linux_on_a_USB_and_Acc.gmi ∎Sep 13 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos Evolving GNU/Linux UIs, Installing Linux on a USB, and Accessing The Dark WebSep 13 02:07
starstreaki had a freebsd+mate vm and it was using 385mb ram which was pretty flySep 13 02:08
MinceRi liked gnome 1 (or maybe 0.99)Sep 13 02:08
MinceRit was the last good version of gnomeSep 13 02:08
highest_cubist_thrillsbefore neil mcgovern had that horrible accident and was mauled to death by 100 badgersSep 13 02:08
highest_cubist_thrills<MinceR> i liked gnome 1 (or maybe 0.99) <MinceR> it was the last good version of gnom <- we can quibbleSep 13 02:08
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D700.jpgSep 13 02:08
MinceR:>Sep 13 02:08
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D352.jpgSep 13 02:08
highest_cubist_thrillshell if you said "there never was a good version of gnome" i wouldnt argueSep 13 02:09
starstreakwhat about enlightenment?Sep 13 02:09
highest_cubist_thrillsi never liked it reallySep 13 02:09
techrights-news"I just published a page on this capsule to list my favourites from Kristall (Gemini Browser). There are some interesting stuff there that you could use as a starting point on your Gemini voyage. :)" gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/favourites-from-kristallSep 13 02:09
MinceRit had multiple panels, child panels, collapsing a panel into a button at its end, automatically collapsing panels, swallowing arbitrary windows into the panelSep 13 02:09
MinceRit let you switch wm-s from the control centerSep 13 02:09
MinceRit was everything gnome 2+ wasn'tSep 13 02:09
highest_cubist_thrillstheres an episode of classic star trek where spock and kirk get the hang of an alien computerSep 13 02:10
highest_cubist_thrillsthat i always think of when people mention enlightenmentSep 13 02:10
techrights-news"The debate between upstream and downstream packaging rages on, especially as of late. I thought I'd express some frustration at some third party repositories I've tried to install lately and what went wrong." gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-09-12.gmiSep 13 02:10
MinceRit had none of this stupid "let's remove printer settings because they might confuse a simpleton!"Sep 13 02:10
highest_cubist_thrillsi think it should be easier to get used to a window manager / de than switching from gnu/linux to bsdSep 13 02:10
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it wasntSep 13 02:10
MinceRenlightenment was the slowest wm i've ever seen on xSep 13 02:10
MinceRnot sure if it's slower than windows, probably notSep 13 02:10
highest_cubist_thrillsit had none of this stupid "let's remove printer settings because they might confuse a simpleton!" <- yes. wellSep 13 02:10
highest_cubist_thrillsgnome designers are some of the dumbest people on earthSep 13 02:11
highest_cubist_thrillsthey would remove an eject button from a plane because it might confuse someoneSep 13 02:11
MinceRand enlightenment also let me choose between "pop up a massive distracting tooltip often" and "forget how to do things"Sep 13 02:11
MinceRgnome used to copy kde, that's when it was gooSep 13 02:11
MinceRdSep 13 02:11
MinceRnow gnome copies macos and kde copies gnomeSep 13 02:11
highest_cubist_thrillsi thought gnome came first, but i honestly dont knowSep 13 02:11
highest_cubist_thrillskde copies gnome <- gnome is ibm, if you dont copy them youre fuckedSep 13 02:12
MinceRthen i'm fuckedSep 13 02:13
highest_cubist_thrillsat least youre not using gnome thoughSep 13 02:13
MinceRkde came first, the original purpose of gnome was to do what kde does, but with free softwareSep 13 02:13
MinceR(Qt was proprietary back then)Sep 13 02:13
highest_cubist_thrillstoo bad they forgot the free software partSep 13 02:14
highest_cubist_thrillsprobably something about having bills dick in their mouth 24/7Sep 13 02:14
highest_cubist_thrillsgnome: 101 redundant layers of increased efficiency!Sep 13 02:15
highest_cubist_thrillsall of which are mandatorySep 13 02:15
highest_cubist_thrills"if you want to know what gnome is, its a bare foot stomping on a users face, forever"Sep 13 02:16
MinceRyeahSep 13 02:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎Sep 13 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Gemini Articles of InterestSep 13 02:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Sep 13 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Today in TechrightsSep 13 02:17
highest_cubist_thrillswith that saidSep 13 02:17
highest_cubist_thrillseven i didnt hate gnome 2Sep 13 02:18
highest_cubist_thrillsi can see why someone would thoughSep 13 02:18
highest_cubist_thrillsid like to see a fork of  mate thats lighter :)Sep 13 02:18
highest_cubist_thrillsmate fans neednt worry, mate will probably never be forkedSep 13 02:18
highest_cubist_thrillsit will be a miracle if its maintainedSep 13 02:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 02:20
highest_cubist_thrillsid like to see a fork of gnome 1 but im sure the libraries it needs are much too incompatibleSep 13 02:20
highest_cubist_thrillswhich says a lot about guis in generalSep 13 02:20
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre like disposable razorsSep 13 02:20
highest_cubist_thrillsthey create loads of waste and when youre done, you throw them away because theres fuck-all else you can do with themSep 13 02:20
highest_cubist_thrillsnow, i dont want this to be true-- i dont think it has to beSep 13 02:21
highest_cubist_thrillsx11 is a straight razor obviouslySep 13 02:21
highest_cubist_thrillsit hurts to use and if you try to open it up, youll get blood all over the placeSep 13 02:21
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its been around foreverSep 13 02:21
schestowitz[TR]x11 is neatly built they saySep 13 02:22
schestowitz[TR]well structuredSep 13 02:22
schestowitz[TR]if you open it upSep 13 02:22
schestowitz[TR]not sure aboyt waylandSep 13 02:22
highest_cubist_thrillswho said that, joe rogan?Sep 13 02:22
schestowitz[TR]noSep 13 02:22
schestowitz[TR]developers who work with itSep 13 02:22
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure wayland is nearly uselessSep 13 02:22
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont want itSep 13 02:22
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i dont believe x11 is "neatly" anythingSep 13 02:22
highest_cubist_thrillsit works and im gratefulSep 13 02:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftoversSep 13 02:23
techrights-newsLinks 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/Sep 13 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | TechrightsSep 13 02:24
highest_cubist_thrillsits forkableSep 13 02:24
highest_cubist_thrillsso theres thatSep 13 02:24
highest_cubist_thrillsand heySep 13 02:24
highest_cubist_thrillsit goes up to 11Sep 13 02:24
schestowitz[TR]systems will be 200 soonSep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]and still not stableSep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]more support to sellSep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]azure went offlike recerntSep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]recentlySep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]no DNSSep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]after systemd fuckupSep 13 02:25
highest_cubist_thrillsheres some broken shit, thanks for flying the azure expressSep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]iirc, they changed to systemd doing dnsSep 13 02:25
schestowitz[TR]and it didn't workSep 13 02:26
highest_cubist_thrillsibm bought red hatSep 13 02:26
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe microsoft will buy debianSep 13 02:26
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean they already own itSep 13 02:26
starstreakmicrosoft is more likely to buy canonicalSep 13 02:26
highest_cubist_thrillsbut they could be more explicit about itSep 13 02:26
highest_cubist_thrillsmicrosoft is more likely to buy canonical <- close enoughSep 13 02:26
highest_cubist_thrillsif you sent canonical into orbit, debian might collapse (at this point)Sep 13 02:27
starstreakMicrosoft Linux 24.04 LTS with powershell, vscode, mono, edgeSep 13 02:27
highest_cubist_thrillsif microsoft bought canonical, they would effectively own debianSep 13 02:27
starstreakcanonical doesn't own debianSep 13 02:27
highest_cubist_thrillsits sort of like owning someone by purchasing their footSep 13 02:27
highest_cubist_thrillsbut whats a shackle, whats an ankle braceletSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillsits not like debian would free itselfSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillsthey had a chance to do that 8 years agoSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillsthey didnt botherSep 13 02:28
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1568592701796261888Sep 13 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: I've noticed that too. It's Novell's SUSE all over again: Latest Ubuntu Promotes Microsoft's Proprietary Software… https://t.co/Q0HKD0Z41xSep 13 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: I've noticed that too. It's Novell's SUSE all over again: Latest Ubuntu Promotes Microsoft's Proprietary Software… https://t.co/Q0HKD0Z41xSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillsdebian is a hostage of gnome and canonicalSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre happy to beSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillsthey have stockholm syndromeSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillsso does rmsSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrillsliteral stockholm syndromeSep 13 02:28
highest_cubist_thrills https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/ <- that stupid womanSep 13 02:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/ )Sep 13 02:29
highest_cubist_thrillshow old is she?Sep 13 02:29
schestowitz[TR]who?Sep 13 02:29
schestowitz[TR]ohSep 13 02:29
highest_cubist_thrillschristineSep 13 02:29
schestowitz[TR]christineSep 13 02:29
schestowitz[TR]no ideaSep 13 02:29
highest_cubist_thrillsshe looks like the queenSep 13 02:29
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure the queen was a nicer personSep 13 02:30
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/Agee_m0iga/status/1568157085681999872Sep 13 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Agee_m0iga: Canonical w #ububtu promuje zamknięte oprogramowanie Mcrosoftu https://t.co/VihyimO777Sep 13 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Latest Ubuntu Promotes Microsoft’s Proprietary Software | TechrightsSep 13 02:30
highest_cubist_thrillsnever heard of ageeSep 13 02:30
highest_cubist_thrillsroy doesnt pay attention to twitterSep 13 02:30
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/MarconSunday/status/1567891841416036354Sep 13 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MarconSunday: Paranoid post: https://t.co/BSnllXfwjhSep 13 02:30
highest_cubist_thrillsits completely useless noiseSep 13 02:30
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1566779822252204032Sep 13 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Stallman et la souveraineté de l'Etat https://t.co/oPJ3S4sxgrSep 13 02:31
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schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/aifesteves/status/1566353236520583169Sep 13 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aifesteves: Executivos da Microsoft Tomam a Linux Foundation e triplicam a si próprios os ordenados. https://t.co/R4okYSzVmvSep 13 02:32
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schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/BettyLoo15/status/1566651845962911748Sep 13 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BettyLoo15: There's these: https://t.co/nG5hQqTaqI & https://t.co/ddVU8gKaVx Creepy bastard... https://t.co/viOAVW2sLv… https://t.co/t4GwJDQIQXSep 13 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part I: Bill Gates Has Plenty to Hide. Money and Connections Have Helped. | TechrightsSep 13 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dailymail.co.uk | Engineer employed at Bill Gates' mansion 'traded 6k child sex abuse images' | Daily Mail OnlineSep 13 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://t.co/viOAVW2sLv… )Sep 13 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BettyLoo15: There's these: https://t.co/nG5hQqTaqI & https://t.co/ddVU8gKaVx Creepy bastard... https://t.co/viOAVW2sLv… https://t.co/t4GwJDQIQXSep 13 02:33
MinceR13 032507 < schestowitz[TR]> and still not stableSep 13 02:36
techrights-news"During the last few days we have been receiving messages from Ukrainian free software activists and supporters of Richard Stallman whose lives have been shattered by war." https://stallmansupport.org/letter-from-bomb-shelter-ukraine.htmlSep 13 02:36
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MinceRfedora's been forcing it on users for 11 years and it's still not stableSep 13 02:36
MinceRdeadian's been forcing it on users for 7 years and it's still not stableSep 13 02:37
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: While you're having fun with your gas bills and Liz Trump cutting taxes on people that aren't you......Sep 13 02:37
MinceRarch btw has been forcing it on users for 10 years and it's still not stableSep 13 02:37
DaemonFCLooks like our landlord is listing a unit next door for $200 more than we pay. I think it's bigger, but still....Sep 13 02:37
DaemonFCThat's not good.Sep 13 02:37
MinceR13 032839 < highest_cubist_thrills> theyre happy to beSep 13 02:38
techrights-news"Huge wins for RISC-V and Ubuntu Unity, the changing ways that software is distributed, and a sad lament for young people’s privacy. Plus why KDE Plasma isn’t default in many major distros, along with the usual goodness in the Korner." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-194/Sep 13 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 194 – Late Night LinuxSep 13 02:38
DaemonFCMandy and I are each getting $50 Prickster Bucks.Sep 13 02:38
MinceRprobably everyone who cared about software freedom left deadian long agoSep 13 02:38
DaemonFCThat'll be like 2 weeks worth of the rent increase.Sep 13 02:38
DaemonFC:)Sep 13 02:38
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DaemonFCI hope the grocery tax repeal becomes permanent, but I don't plan on it.Sep 13 02:38
DaemonFCIt's symbolic though, like everything else.Sep 13 02:39
DaemonFCIf you spend $600 a month on groceries, you save $6. Woohoo.Sep 13 02:39
MinceRif something not pushed by MICROS~1 or dehomag or intHell had spent 7 years being unstable, the cult of the "modern" would be all up in arms to toss it out.Sep 13 02:39
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DaemonFCCoffee prices shot WAAAAAY up. I bought an entire case pack of coffee from Amazon that was nearing expiration .Sep 13 02:40
DaemonFCIt's still fine to drink for a year or two past. Done it before.Sep 13 02:40
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highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> probably everyone who cared about software freedom left deadian long ago <- all thats left is to translate this into latinSep 13 02:40
DaemonFCCut coffee in the morning by ~20%.Sep 13 02:40
DaemonFCI usually made like 5 cups, but I noticed I didn't always drink it all.Sep 13 02:41
highest_cubist_thrills<MinceR> arch btw has been forcing it on users for 10 years and it's still not stable <- the only thing about arch is thatSep 13 02:41
DaemonFCIf I make 4 cups, then it always all gets used.Sep 13 02:41
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highest_cubist_thrillswhen debian targets its foot for demolition you can feel the disturbance in the forceSep 13 02:41
MinceRyou couldSep 13 02:42
highest_cubist_thrillswhen you break something in arch, its hard to tell if its sabotage or simply an update.Sep 13 02:42
MinceRbut deadian hasn't had feet for 7 yearsSep 13 02:42
MinceRwhen something breaks in arch btw, can you even tell?Sep 13 02:42
highest_cubist_thrillsthats my pointSep 13 02:42
MinceRthere must be so many things already broken in thereSep 13 02:42
MinceRsome of them intentionallySep 13 02:42
DaemonFChttp://toastytech.com/guis/adesk12.htmlSep 13 02:42
highest_cubist_thrillsright, but, the outcome of that isSep 13 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toastytech.com | Apple II Desktop 1.2 PrealphaSep 13 02:42
highest_cubist_thrillsarch is never completely integrated with anythingSep 13 02:42
DaemonFC"Modifying it was not easy." Well, it was _possible_, which is not usually the case for proprietary software.Sep 13 02:43
highest_cubist_thrillsso if you switch to say, another init systemSep 13 02:43
highest_cubist_thrillsso what? now you have a different init system that also isnt reliableSep 13 02:43
MinceRseems to be integrated with the landfillSep 13 02:43
highest_cubist_thrillsno big dealSep 13 02:43
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont know, ive never used arch btw for very longSep 13 02:43
DaemonFCThe worst part of dealing with 6502 assembler is, I'm sure, that since Apple intended it to run directly, they were kind enough to strip the comments.Sep 13 02:43
MinceRbut i don't know how hard pacman twists your arm if you try to use something hereticalSep 13 02:43
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highest_cubist_thrillsthere was obarun but "we" talked about what happened ot thatSep 13 02:44
MinceR(probably installed by hand, because i doubt they keep in the repos something they deem to be heretical)Sep 13 02:44
highest_cubist_thrillspacman is probably the main reason i never spent much time with arch btwSep 13 02:44
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highest_cubist_thrillsi doubt they keep in the repos something they deem to be heretica <- in theory at least, aur is the very opposite of what youre sayingSep 13 02:45
MinceRi know apt will try to blow up your entire system if you try to get rid of cancerdSep 13 02:45
highest_cubist_thrillsin practice, idkSep 13 02:45
highest_cubist_thrills i know apt will try to blow up your entire system if you try to get rid of cancerd <- andys package toolSep 13 02:45
MinceRwho would maintain something arch btw users don't believe in in AUR? and how, and why?Sep 13 02:45
highest_cubist_thrillsandy is the artificial intelligence capable of exploding in red vs blueSep 13 02:45
highest_cubist_thrills who would maintain something arch btw users don't believe in in AUR <- aur is fairly anarchist afaikSep 13 02:46
highest_cubist_thrillsi could have this wrong-- if i thought i did, i woudlnt say itSep 13 02:46
highest_cubist_thrillsif im not wrong, its only a little harder to get something into aur than it is to get something into like...Sep 13 02:47
highest_cubist_thrillsa distribution of puppy linuxSep 13 02:47
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highest_cubist_thrillsand only a little harder because the packaging system really demands metadata of some kind, while puppy... i mean, its puppySep 13 02:47
highest_cubist_thrillsand now that puppy doesnt have the murga forumsSep 13 02:47
techrights-news"This week’s episode of Destination Linux, we’re going to be discussing ways projects can use on how to make money in Open Source. Then we will be discussing issues with GNOME’s data collection ambitions. Plus, we have our tips/tricks and software picks." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-294/Sep 13 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-294: 8 Ways to Make Money with Open Source - Destination Linux - TuxDigitalSep 13 02:47
highest_cubist_thrillswho knows what will happen to thatSep 13 02:48
highest_cubist_thrillspuppy has been losing people to things like mx/antix Sep 13 02:48
highest_cubist_thrillshardcore fans i meanSep 13 02:48
highest_cubist_thrillsit may have a long halflife, but nothing holds the project togetherSep 13 02:48
highest_cubist_thrills(except github)Sep 13 02:48
techrights-news"I want to publish zines, and rage against the machine..." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1128Sep 13 02:48
highest_cubist_thrillsit will probably outlast gnu of courseSep 13 02:49
highest_cubist_thrillsi give gnu until 2029 to collapseSep 13 02:49
schestowitz[TR]collapse as in?Sep 13 02:50
schestowitz[TR]no users?Sep 13 02:50
highest_cubist_thrillscollapse as in Sep 13 02:50
highest_cubist_thrillsno structureSep 13 02:50
schestowitz[TR]github might collapse by thenSep 13 02:50
schestowitz[TR]lack of business modelSep 13 02:50
schestowitz[TR]and microsoft having many layoffsSep 13 02:50
schestowitz[TR]hoe is skype doing btwSep 13 02:51
highest_cubist_thrillsyoull still be saying tht in 2029Sep 13 02:51
schestowitz[TR]?Sep 13 02:51
schestowitz[TR]how is skype?Sep 13 02:51
schestowitz[TR]universal VOIP?\Sep 13 02:51
highest_cubist_thrillsskype isnt importantSep 13 02:51
schestowitz[TR]no? not anymore?Sep 13 02:51
highest_cubist_thrillsskype was not part of a 20-year-old plan to destroy the free software movementSep 13 02:51
highest_cubist_thrillsgithub isSep 13 02:51
highest_cubist_thrillsalso, if you had said that the pro-stallman letter would have roughtly twice as many signaturesSep 13 02:53
highest_cubist_thrillsobviously, you would have been correctSep 13 02:54
highest_cubist_thrillsbut even so, youd still get that wrongSep 13 02:54
highest_cubist_thrillsin two waysSep 13 02:54
highest_cubist_thrills1. it wasnt a vote, and some of those sigs were from entire orgs-- which doesnt mean you can count every member, thoguh thats not the point eitherSep 13 02:54
highest_cubist_thrillsthe fact that its not a vote mattersSep 13 02:54
highest_cubist_thrills2. everyone on that list is still working against usSep 13 02:55
highest_cubist_thrillsincluding the orgsSep 13 02:55
*schestowitz[TR] backSep 13 02:55
schestowitz[TR]<highest_cubist_thrills> github isSep 13 02:55
highest_cubist_thrillsits not like they said "shit, we are outnumbered! i guess we LOST"Sep 13 02:55
schestowitz[TR]wait, github did not start like thisSep 13 02:55
MinceR13 035047 < schestowitz[TR]> lack of business modelSep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]in 2014 microsoft thought of buying itSep 13 02:56
MinceRi thought they had a business modelSep 13 02:56
highest_cubist_thrillsit doesnt matter that github didnt start like thisSep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]but 20 years ago there was no github at allSep 13 02:56
highest_cubist_thrillsit has been like that since 2014Sep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]git was getting off the grounSep 13 02:56
MinceR"bleed money but get to have users"Sep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]rightSep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]and now see gitLABSep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]they wanted to kill off "stale" projectsSep 13 02:56
MinceRthose sociopaths will give anything for a chance to call someone their userSep 13 02:56
MinceRMICROS~1, that isSep 13 02:56
highest_cubist_thrillsmicrosoft has always been happy to bleed money in exchange for controlling countless peopleSep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]next comes, kill off 'free' accountsSep 13 02:56
schestowitz[TR]and sourcehub went down that routeSep 13 02:56
highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> those sociopaths will give anything for a chance to call someone their user <-Sep 13 02:57
schestowitz[TR]no changes? no accountSep 13 02:57
schestowitz[TR]or pay upSep 13 02:57
MinceR(except, of course, develop a product or service worth using)Sep 13 02:57
schestowitz[TR]same for vimeoSep 13 02:57
schestowitz[TR]maybe gulagtube will be nextSep 13 02:57
highest_cubist_thrillssourcehub didnt have enough critical massSep 13 02:57
schestowitz[TR]turns out ina  rotting economy you cannot justify losing BILLIONS of dollars FOREVERSep 13 02:57
MinceRthat's fine, humanity won't be around foreverSep 13 02:57
highest_cubist_thrillssaying that github will fail because sourcehub did, is a lot like saying windows will fail, because dos didSep 13 02:57
schestowitz[TR]nor will catsSep 13 02:58
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean windows will fail-- eventuallySep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]noSep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]it is failingSep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]it's a processSep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]you can meausre itSep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]it won't happen overnightSep 13 02:58
highest_cubist_thrillsbut that has nothing to do woth dos, and github has nothing to do with sourcehubSep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]Microsoft-bribed media won't mention the processSep 13 02:58
highest_cubist_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> it is failing <- oh yesSep 13 02:58
highest_cubist_thrillsof course it isSep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]github still LOSES moneySep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]there is no business modelSep 13 02:58
highest_cubist_thrillsjust like the coup Sep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]not a viable oneSep 13 02:58
schestowitz[TR]start charging users, they fleeSep 13 02:59
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schestowitz[TR]microsoft tries using skype and linkedi to kickstart stuffSep 13 02:59
highest_cubist_thrillsyou dont understand how corporate subsidising works at allSep 13 02:59
schestowitz[TR]like teamsSep 13 02:59
schestowitz[TR]"for business"Sep 13 02:59
schestowitz[TR]minecraft is ssjust an attempt to keep kids off other platformsSep 13 02:59
highest_cubist_thrillssubsidies arent profitable the same way other things areSep 13 02:59
highest_cubist_thrillsbut you judge their effectiveness based on the usual rulesSep 13 02:59
highest_cubist_thrillswhich is honestly stupidSep 13 02:59
schestowitz[TR]and the whole "we must control games" spiel, wherein they tell you linux "bad" "cox games"Sep 13 02:59
highest_cubist_thrillssubsidies are profitableSep 13 03:00
schestowitz[TR]*cozSep 13 03:00
highest_cubist_thrillsbut not in the same way as other thingsSep 13 03:00
schestowitz[TR]they need to show a turnaround thoughSep 13 03:00
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> minecraft is ssjust an attempt to keep kids off other platforms <- so is githubSep 13 03:00
schestowitz[TR]mitchell did an article about it in techjrightsSep 13 03:00
highest_cubist_thrillsso is windowsSep 13 03:00
schestowitz[TR]azure is not showing returnSep 13 03:00
highest_cubist_thrillsyeahSep 13 03:00
schestowitz[TR]so they hide the financial sideSep 13 03:00
schestowitz[TR]or blend it with many unrelated thingsSep 13 03:00
highest_cubist_thrillsmicrosoft has a mountain of handwavey bullshitSep 13 03:01
schestowitz[TR]rightSep 13 03:01
highest_cubist_thrillswhich they rebrand every 5-10 yearsSep 13 03:01
highest_cubist_thrillswhich is now called azureSep 13 03:01
schestowitz[TR]brb coiffee rreadySep 13 03:01
highest_cubist_thrillsand it never turns a profitSep 13 03:01
highest_cubist_thrillsand they always lieSep 13 03:01
highest_cubist_thrillsand then they rebrand itSep 13 03:01
highest_cubist_thrillsthats microsoftSep 13 03:01
highest_cubist_thrillsbut you call that failuerSep 13 03:02
highest_cubist_thrillsand i call it microsoftSep 13 03:02
highest_cubist_thrillsif it was failure, why are they still doing itSep 13 03:02
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause its microsoftSep 13 03:02
highest_cubist_thrillsand failure is their #1 productSep 13 03:02
highest_cubist_thrillsand theyre doing fine, sadlySep 13 03:02
highest_cubist_thrillsuntil you figure that out, youre always going to get microsoft wrongSep 13 03:03
highest_cubist_thrillsand people who believe your take will also get it wrongSep 13 03:03
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highest_cubist_thrillsstarstreak https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qM_r-cJ-JZISep 13 03:06
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starstreakhighest_cubist_thrills, microsoft uses ubuntu for WSLSep 13 03:07
highest_cubist_thrillsi know, its horribleSep 13 03:07
schestowitz[TR]?Sep 13 03:07
schestowitz[TR]WSL is not just UbuntuSep 13 03:07
schestowitz[TR]WSL is WIndowsSep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]with some junk thrown on itSep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]like a poorly done VMSep 13 03:08
highest_cubist_thrillsubuntu = junkSep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]WSL is obsoleteSep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]there is NO PURPOSE for itSep 13 03:08
highest_cubist_thrillsso is windowsSep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]the only dif isSep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]virtualbox and iso takes longerSep 13 03:08
highest_cubist_thrillsyo dawg, we herd you like junkSep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]then MS/Windows "store"Sep 13 03:08
schestowitz[TR]WSL will die in a yearSep 13 03:09
schestowitz[TR]or 5Sep 13 03:09
highest_cubist_thrillsor 10Sep 13 03:09
highest_cubist_thrills(probably less than 10)Sep 13 03:09
highest_cubist_thrillsor 20!Sep 13 03:09
schestowitz[TR]we hypothetise maybe they partly killed it alreadySep 13 03:09
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR]how is skype?Sep 13 03:09
schestowitz[TR]as part of the latest wave of layoffs Sep 13 03:09
schestowitz[TR]about 18000 firedSep 13 03:09
DaemonFCI haven't had anyone ask me to use it in about 10 years.Sep 13 03:09
highest_cubist_thrillsfailure is their #1 productSep 13 03:09
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: exactlySep 13 03:09
schestowitz[TR]the mnedia... silentSep 13 03:10
schestowitz[TR]like fig says, the "big story" is thereSep 13 03:10
schestowitz[TR]but ignoredSep 13 03:10
highest_cubist_thrillsthe media is worthless Sep 13 03:10
schestowitz[TR]we constantly write about the demise of WindowsSep 13 03:10
schestowitz[TR]seems like a big story, no?Sep 13 03:10
schestowitz[TR]media pretends it never happenedSep 13 03:10
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schestowitz[TR]if windows fell to 10% market sharem,Sep 13 03:10
schestowitz[TR]there would STILL be not  single press article discussing itSep 13 03:11
highest_cubist_thrillsthats because theres no line leftSep 13 03:11
schestowitz[TR]but ten article about outsourcing to gothubSep 13 03:11
schestowitz[TR]like FB todaySep 13 03:11
highest_cubist_thrillsbetween media and marketingSep 13 03:11
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre the same thingSep 13 03:11
schestowitz[TR]*ten articclesSep 13 03:11
schestowitz[TR]yes, PR took over news sitesSep 13 03:11
highest_cubist_thrillslike 100 years ago when you would get pcmagSep 13 03:11
schestowitz[TR]and it looks accordingly shallowSep 13 03:11
schestowitz[TR]IT Jungle is just 100% IBM propagandaSep 13 03:11
highest_cubist_thrillsand it was the better part of an inch thickSep 13 03:11
highest_cubist_thrillsand half of it was adsSep 13 03:11
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schestowitz[TR]and they don't disclosure thatSep 13 03:12
highest_cubist_thrillsthats the mediaSep 13 03:12
schestowitz[TR]Mitchell (MS WBer) points out the largest expense at Microsoft is mediaSep 13 03:12
schestowitz[TR]buying the mediaSep 13 03:12
schestowitz[TR]to "look big"!Sep 13 03:12
highest_cubist_thrillswber?Sep 13 03:12
schestowitz[TR]whistlewbloweSep 13 03:12
highest_cubist_thrills/me nodsSep 13 03:12
schestowitz[TR]rI can find the articlesSep 13 03:12
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highest_cubist_thrillsive already read himSep 13 03:13
schestowitz[TR](less typos)Sep 13 03:13
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah its funny how posture affects typographic qualitySep 13 03:13
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highest_cubist_thrillswhen im too relaxed it goes right to shitSep 13 03:13
highest_cubist_thrillsnot that being overexcited helps eitherSep 13 03:14
DaemonFC_WHOASep 13 03:14
highest_cubist_thrillsgood posture means your fingers are over the right keysSep 13 03:14
schestowitz[TR]the anti-RMS people... still ignore worse from MicrosoftSep 13 03:14
highest_cubist_thrillsif yorue too relaxed, who know where the fuck they areSep 13 03:14
highest_cubist_thrillsthe anti-RMS people... still ignore worse from Microsoft <- they dont care about freedomSep 13 03:14
schestowitz[TR]or ethicsSep 13 03:15
highest_cubist_thrillsor ethicsSep 13 03:15
highest_cubist_thrillsthats the state of free softwareSep 13 03:15
highest_cubist_thrillsit wasnt in the speechSep 13 03:15
schestowitz[TR]nor does th e media Sep 13 03:15
schestowitz[TR]"me too"Sep 13 03:15
highest_cubist_thrillsthe media is uselessSep 13 03:15
schestowitz[TR]only when it suits themSep 13 03:15
highest_cubist_thrillsits just marketingSep 13 03:15
schestowitz[TR]panama papersSep 13 03:15
schestowitz[TR]only when it shames "official enemies"Sep 13 03:15
schestowitz[TR]not people like gatesSep 13 03:15
schestowitz[TR]heree is an exampleSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR]a story the media turned downSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR]about microsoft SERIAL STRANGLERSep 13 03:16
*DaemonFC_ is now known as DaemonFCSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR]or womenSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR]where was mjg59_ ?Sep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:17] <schestowitz> zemlin deleted all his tweetsSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:17] <schestowitz> I wrote about it xxxxSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:17] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/Sep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:18] <schestowitz> seems to have sent 'Linux' Foundation into panic modeSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:18] <schestowitz> later in the same day and day afterSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:18] <schestowitz> Zemlin made a public statementSep 13 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | TechrightsSep 13 03:16
highest_cubist_thrillsthats not useful to marketingSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:18] <schestowitz> very unusual for himSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:18] <schestowitz> same day: http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/linux-foundation-irs/Sep 13 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No Linux Foundation IRS Disclosures Since 2018 | TechrightsSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:19] <Source> Yeah I don't really have too much of a horse in that raceSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:20] <Source>  I kind of care I just don't really know enough[03:25] <Source> Yeah I can't really follow what zemlin did wrong[03:25] <schestowitz> try the wikiSep 13 03:16
DaemonFCI just had my first total system crash in 16 years.Sep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:25] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#December_2021Sep 13 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:28] <Source> Sorry I lost you again[03:28] <Source> [21:27:55] xxxx: I'm trying to get the police report for arrest he "might" have spent multiple days in jailSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:28] <schestowitz> is that you to me?Sep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:29] <schestowitz> or something else?Sep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:29] <Source> Apparently it takes 13 days after the arrest to get the picturesSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:29] <Source> I sent that to youSep 13 03:16
DaemonFCThings started getting really flaky when I started an Android runtime in Flatpak.Sep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:29] <Source> Alex may have spent multiple days in jailSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:29] <Source> We don't have the police report yet for the arrestSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:30] <Source> My understanding is that if someone spent multiple days in jail it either means they couldn't afford bailSep 13 03:16
schestowitz[TR][03:30] <Source> Unlikely it was only like $25k[03:30] <Source>  10% down if you use a bails bondsman[03:30] <Source> The other reason to spend multiple days in jail is resisting arrest[03:31] <schestowitz> I seeSep 13 03:17
schestowitz[TR][03:31] <Source> https://www.austintexas.gov/police/mug_shots/index.cfmSep 13 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-APD Booking Photo Database Search | AustinTexas.govSep 13 03:17
schestowitz[TR][03:31] <Source> It says they post mugshots 13 days after arrest[03:32] <schestowitz> [03:28] <Source> [21:27:55] xxxxxx: I'm trying to get the police report for arrest he "might" have spent multiple days in jailSep 13 03:17
highest_cubist_thrillsifhonestlySep 13 03:17
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR]where was mjg59_ ?Sep 13 03:17
highest_cubist_thrillsalex gravely could literally kill half a dozen peopleSep 13 03:17
highest_cubist_thrillsit wouldnt affect githubSep 13 03:17
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 13 03:17
DaemonFCIn the bathroom at the open source conference making sure he wasn't "missing out".Sep 13 03:17
schestowitz[TR]and he would keep his jobSep 13 03:17
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont knowSep 13 03:17
schestowitz[TR]protected by ther microsoft mole inside the LF boardSep 13 03:17
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it woudlnt affect githubSep 13 03:17
schestowitz[TR]she is still there too, btwSep 13 03:17
highest_cubist_thrillsthe linux farceSep 13 03:18
highest_cubist_thrillsthe linux fabricationSep 13 03:18
highest_cubist_thrillsgotta save farce for christineSep 13 03:18
highest_cubist_thrillsfossfarceSep 13 03:18
schestowitz[TR]rms, begone -- MICROSOFT github pettiionbSep 13 03:19
highest_cubist_thrillsby antichristine and brusque bilefieldSep 13 03:19
schestowitz[TR]signed by http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/Sep 13 03:19
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: Don't miss out now.Sep 13 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | TechrightsSep 13 03:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 03:20
schestowitz[TR]petition  managed by elana hamasman from azure http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/elana-hashman-cancel-culture/Sep 13 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM/Azure’s Elana Hashman, Only Two Months After Starting a Campaign to Delete RMS, Said Israel Should Not Exist | TechrightsSep 13 03:20
highest_cubist_thrillsauntie christineSep 13 03:20
schestowitz[TR]<highest_cubist_thrills> the linux farceSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]<highest_cubist_thrills> the linux fabricationSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]go to foss forceSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]ANY pageSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]watch the LF adsSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]you might say,Sep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]OK, so fossforce takes money  to shill an LF disploma millSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]but it's worseSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]because christine knows what they aeSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]but sold out, regardlessSep 13 03:21
schestowitz[TR]BRUCE BYFIELD Sep 13 03:22
schestowitz[TR]https://fossforce.com/2020/01/can-the-linux-foundation-speak-for-free-software/Sep 13 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Can the Linux Foundation Speak for Free Software? - FOSS ForceSep 13 03:22
schestowitz[TR]https://fossforce.com/2016/01/linux-foundation-sells-out-brave-new-browser-more/Sep 13 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Linux Foundation Sells Out, Brave New Browser & More… - FOSS ForceSep 13 03:22
schestowitz[TR]go to this pageSep 13 03:22
schestowitz[TR]now watch the LF ads all oveer itSep 13 03:22
highest_cubist_thrillshttps://fossforce.com/2020/01/can-the-linux-foundation-speak-for-free-software/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlinesSep 13 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Betteridge's law of headlines - WikipediaSep 13 03:22
schestowitz[TR]so LF sold out, says the pageSep 13 03:22
schestowitz[TR]ina  site that itself sold outSep 13 03:23
schestowitz[TR]amazingSep 13 03:23
schestowitz[TR]https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.htmlSep 13 03:23
highest_cubist_thrillshypocrisy is what all of this is based onSep 13 03:23
highest_cubist_thrillsso, yeahSep 13 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Linux Foundation quietly drops community representationSep 13 03:23
highest_cubist_thrillsif you simply throw phanes and mjg into a fly chamberSep 13 03:23
highest_cubist_thrillsboth will suicide for what they believe is the better goodSep 13 03:23
schestowitz[TR]m by Bruce ByfieldSep 13 03:24
highest_cubist_thrillsnow, this isnt fair to phanesSep 13 03:24
schestowitz[TR]https://thenewstack.io/linux-foundation-critics/Sep 13 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | The Linux Foundation and Its Critics - The New StackSep 13 03:24
schestowitz[TR]https://fossforce.com/2017/04/lin-desktop-linux-gpl-openness/Sep 13 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - FOSS ForceSep 13 03:24
schestowitz[TR]with LF ads all over the pageSep 13 03:24
schestowitz[TR]I call this selloutSep 13 03:24
highest_cubist_thrillsbut until we get a fly chamber its pretty moot anywaySep 13 03:24
schestowitz[TR]when you become a shill fo what you know to be corruptSep 13 03:24
schestowitz[TR]because ytou are paid to do itSep 13 03:24
schestowitz[TR]"In 2008, I was asked to attend the (by invitation only), Linux Collaboration Summit in Austin Texas. Since I am local to Austin and my head swelled X 10 by receiving this invite, I rounded up one of our non profit Directors and we pushed our way through the front door, into Mecca, as far as I was concerned.Sep 13 03:25
schestowitz[TR]"Sep 13 03:25
schestowitz[TR]-ken starksSep 13 03:25
highest_cubist_thrillsIn 2008, I was asked to attend the (by invitation only)Sep 13 03:25
highest_cubist_thrillsmake selling out seem like an exclusive opportunitySep 13 03:25
highest_cubist_thrills/me pictures github and microsoft people standing around like theyre coolSep 13 03:26
schestowitz[TR]marcia was banned form their eventSep 13 03:26
schestowitz[TR]for not  shining the shoes of GAFAMSep 13 03:26
highest_cubist_thrillsshes probably banned from lieplanet tooSep 13 03:26
schestowitz[TR]like jono bacon had doneSep 13 03:26
schestowitz[TR]that's LF in a nutshellSep 13 03:26
schestowitz[TR]they are like mundieSep 13 03:26
schestowitz[TR]in the elevatorSep 13 03:26
schestowitz[TR]"I'm your worsst nighmare"Sep 13 03:26
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: Mostly Beavis & Butt-Head Do the Universe was meh, but the part where they wander into a liberal college where a professor is explaining White Privilege was pretty funny. She gives them the idea that because they're white and male they can do whatever they want and  nobody will ever stop them and they'll have no trouble with the police, so they immediately  go on a crime...Sep 13 03:26
DaemonFC...spree that ends in wrecking a police car, nearly get shot by the cops, get arrested, and get thrown in jail, all over the next 10 minutes.Sep 13 03:26
highest_cubist_thrillseric s ramboSep 13 03:27
DaemonFCI rather enjoyed that one scene.Sep 13 03:27
schestowitz[TR]http://web.archive.org/web/20170323185715/https://www.linux.com/blog/learn/chapter/open-source-management/2017/3/5-legal-risks-companies-involved-open-source-software-developmentSep 13 03:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 5 Legal Risks For Companies Involved in Open Source Software Development | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationSep 13 03:27
highest_cubist_thrills"i met richard stallman in an elevator around 1983"Sep 13 03:27
schestowitz[TR]anti-GPLSep 13 03:27
schestowitz[TR]from LFSep 13 03:27
schestowitz[TR]funded by MicrosoftSep 13 03:27
schestowitz[TR]black DuckSep 13 03:27
highest_cubist_thrills"he told me he was starting an organisation to promote freedom"Sep 13 03:27
schestowitz[TR]"Thank you, Christine! I’ve been saying it for years. In light of the recent VMware Gold class member situation also, who could ignore all the “behavior” by the Foundation.Sep 13 03:28
schestowitz[TR]"Sep 13 03:28
highest_cubist_thrillsand i remember he looked at me sort of condescendingly and said 'and what do you do"Sep 13 03:28
schestowitz[TR]hey, hold onSep 13 03:28
schestowitz[TR]Christine too sold out to themSep 13 03:28
highest_cubist_thrills"and i gave him a sort of 1000 yard stare and saidSep 13 03:28
highest_cubist_thrills"im your best friend"Sep 13 03:28
highest_cubist_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> Christine too sold out to them <- i mean, yeahSep 13 03:28
schestowitz[TR]bought with GAFAM moneySep 13 03:28
schestowitz[TR]you can see where LF money comes fromSep 13 03:28
schestowitz[TR]you might call it "hush money"Sep 13 03:29
schestowitz[TR]defuse criticsSep 13 03:29
highest_cubist_thrillsif jim had anything to saySep 13 03:29
schestowitz[TR]they did the same to "It's FOSS"Sep 13 03:29
schestowitz[TR]Then It's FOSS published their sponsored LF spam into tuxmacinesSep 13 03:29
schestowitz[TR]I unpublished itSep 13 03:29
highest_cubist_thrillsjim is the proverbial puppy youd be kicking by attacking microsoftSep 13 03:29
schestowitz[TR]Jim is a fraudSep 13 03:29
highest_cubist_thrillschristine is a catSep 13 03:29
schestowitz[TR]so is the wifeSep 13 03:29
highest_cubist_thrillsif christine sees bill gates sitting on a toiletSep 13 03:29
schestowitz[TR]the piillow talk might be lol'ing over how to defraud peopleSep 13 03:30
highest_cubist_thrillsshe says "ugh, you shit where you drink?"Sep 13 03:30
schestowitz[TR]and how easy it is to get away with itSep 13 03:30
highest_cubist_thrillsand jim zemlin saysSep 13 03:30
highest_cubist_thrills"WOW! YOU CAN DRINK WITH YOUR ARSE?"Sep 13 03:30
schestowitz[TR]because you are protected by a wall of corporate lawyersSep 13 03:30
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/Sep 13 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sheela Microsoft (Zemlin) Does Not Like Linux and Jim Zemlin Idolises Bill Gates | TechrightsSep 13 03:30
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schestowitz[TR]btw, rianne moved her sbc over to microsd yesterdaySep 13 03:38
schestowitz[TR]a lot faster nowSep 13 03:38
schestowitz[TR]but at risk of breakingSep 13 03:38
schestowitz[TR]there is a backup/fallover thoughSep 13 03:38
highest_cubist_thrillsis betteridge's law of headlines correct? | matslina <- lolSep 13 03:39
schestowitz[TR]remains an enigma why usb is slow slow for both of us to run off ofSep 13 03:40
schestowitz[TR]let's see how fast firefox runs over ssh -XSep 13 03:40
schestowitz[TR]on an 'old' machineSep 13 03:40
highest_cubist_thrillsremains an enigma why usb is slow slow for both of us to run off <- i meanSep 13 03:41
highest_cubist_thrillsyou have the usb controller, the interface on the drive enclusure, the drive itself, the quality and bandwidth of the cableSep 13 03:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | TechrightsSep 13 03:42
highest_cubist_thrillsplus the drivers Sep 13 03:42
DaemonFCmjg59_: is so full of shit it's flowing out of his ears. But that's just the social justice crap.Sep 13 03:42
DaemonFCHe knows he's an idiot on some level I'm sure.Sep 13 03:42
highest_cubist_thrillsany of those could be the bottleneckSep 13 03:42
highest_cubist_thrillsas well as the filesystem itselfSep 13 03:42
DaemonFCHe can't possibly think that the cops are like, out there tripping over themselves to bring in White people alive or go easy on them to avoid tricking them into false confessions that will send them to prison.Sep 13 03:43
DaemonFCIf he does think that, I can let him interview me about the police sometime.Sep 13 03:43
DaemonFCI think it would be an opportunity to shine some light on how wrong he's been. Sep 13 03:44
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: I had a talk with my doctor about 988 and mental health and the police today.Sep 13 03:44
DaemonFCShe asked if I ever felt suicidal. I said, "In a general sense, quite a lot of the time, actually. But that's been going on forever now.".Sep 13 03:45
schestowitz[TR]you will be OKSep 13 03:45
schestowitz[TR]be ok to mandy, he will lookm after youSep 13 03:45
highest_cubist_thrillsBehdad Esfahbod, developer of HarfBuzz HarfBuzz evolved from code that was originally part of the FreeType projectSep 13 03:45
DaemonFCShe says, "You can call 988 if you need help with that.". I immediately said, "I would never call them. They dox people and send the police out to shoot them.".Sep 13 03:45
DaemonFCShe opens her eyes and so does the student.Sep 13 03:45
schestowitz[TR]yeah, it's like CIA in PakistanSep 13 03:46
DaemonFC"What do you mean they come out and shoot you?"Sep 13 03:46
schestowitz[TR]with polio vaccinesSep 13 03:46
schestowitz[TR]they used that to pick up DNA samplesSep 13 03:46
schestowitz[TR]and then pakinstanis started killing doctorsSep 13 03:46
schestowitz[TR]assuming all of them were just CIA assetsSep 13 03:46
schestowitz[TR]with surveillance campitalism people think twice before seeking adviceSep 13 03:46
schestowitz[TR]as they assume no confidentialitySep 13 03:46
DaemonFCI said, "Oh someone hasn't read the news. Like that guy up in Michigan. Totally unarmed. Mom calls the cops to do a wellness check on her son, and they go in there and shoot him, execution style. I don't trust the police. I don't answer their questions even if they've only pulled me over for speeding.".Sep 13 03:46
schestowitz[TR]and the psycho*s enter data into a Windows machineSep 13 03:47
highest_cubist_thrills/me has no idea what roy is on aboutSep 13 03:47
highest_cubist_thrillsgithub.com/harfbuzz/harfbuzz/issues/2804Sep 13 03:47
highest_cubist_thrillsHarfbuzz has started trying to render emoji variation selectors #2804. Closed kovidgoyal opened this issue Jan 5, 2021Sep 13 03:47
schestowitz[TR]probably sending the data to "the clown"Sep 13 03:47
DaemonFC"Name, rank, and serial number. Anything more, talk to my attorney."Sep 13 03:47
schestowitz[TR]god knows what happens to data on "the clown"Sep 13 03:47
schestowitz[TR]or what the psych*s write about youSep 13 03:47
schestowitz[TR]there is a seinfeld episoe about itSep 13 03:47
schestowitz[TR]you wan tto know what the doc types abouy uouSep 13 03:47
schestowitz[TR]and as you confront them they add moreSep 13 03:47
schestowitz[TR]and don't tell youSep 13 03:47
DaemonFCI said that I don't trust the police and don't answer police questions.Sep 13 03:48
schestowitz[TR]rightSep 13 03:48
schestowitz[TR]don't engage with themSep 13 03:48
schestowitz[TR]they are always rightSep 13 03:48
DaemonFCI said if I felt actively suicidal I would take myself somewhere for treatment, but I would not call the cops.Sep 13 03:48
schestowitz[TR]and you are only right wqhen it suits themSep 13 03:48
schestowitz[TR]when it proves them rightSep 13 03:48
schestowitz[TR]and did I mention they are deceitful and violent? Sep 13 03:48
DaemonFCThe last thing you should do is call the police. Or call 988, because 2% of the time they call the police.Sep 13 03:49
highest_cubist_thrillsdoctors?Sep 13 03:49
highest_cubist_thrillsAt this time Qt ships with its own copy of HarfBuzz which is identical to the upstream HarfBuzz. Pango ships with its own copy also, but only uses the layout engine, and not the HarfBuzz shapers. Since 2008 the author has been working on rewriting the layout engine to be more robust and use mmap()ed fonts efficientlySep 13 03:49
highest_cubist_thrillsattack surfaceSep 13 03:49
DaemonFCSo you're playing Russian Roulette as to whether the cops come out after you, and again on whether they just kill you while they're out there.Sep 13 03:49
schestowitz[TR]not sure about UKSep 13 03:49
DaemonFCYou called and said you wanted to die.Sep 13 03:49
schestowitz[TR]but in the US, psych*s became informantsSep 13 03:49
DaemonFCOkay buddy, here it is.Sep 13 03:49
schestowitz[TR]for employers, pol,ice, govSep 13 03:49
schestowitz[TR]and later cops and psych*s wonder why people don't trust them enoughSep 13 03:50
DaemonFCIf you actually want to die, call 988 and they might arrange a suicide by cop for you.Sep 13 03:50
highest_cubist_thrillspatriot act = no more ethical doctorsSep 13 03:50
highest_cubist_thrillsoops, we fucked up!Sep 13 03:50
DaemonFCYou never know. The police are there to deal with CRIMINALS not the mentally ill.Sep 13 03:50
DaemonFCThey get training that's more like what a soldier does than a psychologist.Sep 13 03:50
schestowitz[TR]hmmm... firefox can run surprisingly ok over LAN on another machineSep 13 03:50
schestowitz[TR]I expected more lagSep 13 03:50
highest_cubist_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> not sure about UK <- its the sameSep 13 03:51
schestowitz[TR]there obv. would be latecy if you tried playing videosSep 13 03:51
highest_cubist_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> I expected more lag <- wwwhhheeeennnn dooo yyyyyyoooo sttttaarrrttt tyyyyyypiiiinnngg liiiikkeeeee thiiiiiissssssSep 13 03:51
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: The United Nations says that the United States violates the human rights of mentally ill people. They didn't name names, but like, they said that "forced mental health treatment" is a human rights violation.Sep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]it's the same with internal WBVer mechanismssSep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]if you use them, they flag youSep 13 03:52
highest_cubist_thrillsi know thats a different application, i just assumed your network is swamped nowSep 13 03:52
DaemonFCThe US has "forced mental health".Sep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]snowden learned this from prior nsa WBersSep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]and their court casesSep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]better not get flaggedSep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]test the watersSep 13 03:52
DaemonFCIf you tell a psychiatrist you want to kill yourself, you get forcibly committed for not less than 72 hours.Sep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]then go directly to the pressSep 13 03:52
DaemonFCAnd as long as they want you there.Sep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]same with cops andpsych*sSep 13 03:52
schestowitz[TR]better call family or friendsSep 13 03:53
schestowitz[TR]they mioght say,Sep 13 03:53
schestowitz[TR]"son, I want you to get professional help"Sep 13 03:53
schestowitz[TR]but they won't phoneSep 13 03:53
DaemonFCI don't think people should be forcibly committed. I actually think a lot of people should get help committing suicide if that's what they really want.Sep 13 03:53
schestowitz[TR](not based on personal experience btw)Sep 13 03:53
DaemonFCBecause if they do it themselves, it's going to be fucking ugly, and it may ruin a lot of people's day.Sep 13 03:53
schestowitz[TR]a circle of confidants is betterSep 13 03:53
schestowitz[TR]a german friednd of mine ran in front of a busSep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]after some girl had turned him down, rejected himSep 13 03:54
DaemonFCYes, that's what I'm saying.Sep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]we spent all night with herSep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]*himSep 13 03:54
DaemonFCHe walks in front of a bus. Messy.Sep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]and he felt betterSep 13 03:54
DaemonFCOther people traumatized.Sep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]cried a lot, told stories, opened upSep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]noi need for shrinksSep 13 03:54
DaemonFCHe's dead. There's a mess to clean up.Sep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]shared with friendsSep 13 03:54
highest_cubist_thrills :)Sep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]his dad abused him a lotSep 13 03:54
DaemonFCWhat's changed besides the fact that it turns into a bad day all around?Sep 13 03:54
schestowitz[TR]no record of what happenedSep 13 03:55
schestowitz[TR]or his name for that matterSep 13 03:55
DaemonFCYou can only cry so much.Sep 13 03:55
highest_cubist_thrillsim pretty sure there are still some people who need medicationSep 13 03:55
highest_cubist_thrillsif you know any circle of friends that can provide thatSep 13 03:55
schestowitz[TR]he suffered a breakdown because of that spanish galSep 13 03:55
DaemonFCIt's not medication as much as it is a chemical restraint.Sep 13 03:56
schestowitz[TR]so it was partly temporarySep 13 03:56
DaemonFCI don't think it was just that.Sep 13 03:56
highest_cubist_thrillsits not an industry im largely sympathetic toSep 13 03:56
highest_cubist_thrillsbut im pretty sure at least a few people need itSep 13 03:56
DaemonFCThat might have been the last straw.Sep 13 03:56
schestowitz[TR]no need for medsSep 13 03:56
schestowitz[TR]they can worsen thingsSep 13 03:56
schestowitz[TR]he suffered rejectionSep 13 03:56
highest_cubist_thrillsyes they often do worsen thingsSep 13 03:56
DaemonFCI've had thoughts like that before. Constant rejection.Sep 13 03:56
DaemonFCI makes you bitter. Sep 13 03:56
schestowitz[TR]he said to usSep 13 03:56
schestowitz[TR]"I'm taking the next bus"Sep 13 03:56
highest_cubist_thrillsim trying to figure out if youre saying your friend didnt need medsSep 13 03:57
highest_cubist_thrillsor no one doesSep 13 03:57
schestowitz[TR]then ran in front of oneSep 13 03:57
DaemonFC"Catching the bus" is a suicide euphemism.Sep 13 03:57
DaemonFCI used to be a member of that Alt.Suicide.Holiday and Alt.Suicide.Bus.Stop group.Sep 13 03:57
DaemonFCThey had an IRC server for years.Sep 13 03:57
schestowitz[TR]way to signal he wanted helpSep 13 03:57
schestowitz[TR]thew bus did not go fast enoughSep 13 03:57
highest_cubist_thrillslucky he didnt use a trainSep 13 03:58
schestowitz[TR]they are fenced hereSep 13 03:58
DaemonFCYeah, I've had that thought.Sep 13 03:58
schestowitz[TR]for this reason I reckonSep 13 03:58
schestowitz[TR]or terror attacksSep 13 03:58
highest_cubist_thrillssurelySep 13 03:58
DaemonFCOh, they're not fenced here and they get up to about 80 miles an hour in some places.Sep 13 03:58
schestowitz[TR]but a determined person can leap past them, many waysSep 13 03:58
highest_cubist_thrillsi think terrorists know how to breach fencesSep 13 03:58
DaemonFCYou have a Metra train doing 80, you're done.Sep 13 03:58
schestowitz[TR]suicide by fall is a lot easier tbhSep 13 03:58
DaemonFCThat's how the CEO of Metra killed himself.Sep 13 03:58
highest_cubist_thrillsthey should make a bookletSep 13 03:58
highest_cubist_thrills"easist ways to kill yourself"Sep 13 03:59
schestowitz[TR]someone from EPO jumped into the subway years agoSep 13 03:59
DaemonFCThere are some books like that.Sep 13 03:59
schestowitz[TR]after his holidaySep 13 03:59
highest_cubist_thrills"a lot of people jump in front of busses, but this is unreliable"Sep 13 03:59
DaemonFCThey're illegal in some countries.Sep 13 03:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▂▄▅▄▄▅▅▃▄▁▄▂▅▃▃▂▅▆▃▄▃▇▅▇▅▂▃▄▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 23.41 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁█▁█▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▂▁▁▁▁█▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 83.93▕ swarm size (avg): 181.81  ⟲Sep 13 03:59
highest_cubist_thrills"trains are fenced in but a determined person can get past that"Sep 13 03:59
DaemonFCIn others, they open you up to wrongful death lawsuits by family members.Sep 13 03:59
schestowitz[TR]a few weeks ago I saw a photo of himSep 13 04:00
schestowitz[TR]when going through old albumsSep 13 04:00
highest_cubist_thrills/me still believes there are people (however few) that cannot function without medicationSep 13 04:00
highest_cubist_thrillsi hope its only 12Sep 13 04:00
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its at least 12Sep 13 04:00
schestowitz[TR](brb)Sep 13 04:00
highest_cubist_thrillstechrights.org/2020/08/13/harfbuzz-microsoft/Sep 13 04:01
highest_cubist_thrillsThe name "Harfbuzz" is based on a translation of the phrase "OpenFont". Its lead author is Behdad Esfahbod, who is also the lead dev of Pango — the GNOME thingy that (typically) makes text happen. I don't know (or very much care) about the finer details about that, I know that my Gtk applications refuse to run without it.Sep 13 04:01
highest_cubist_thrillsi thought it was a translation of "fuck yo couch"Sep 13 04:01
DaemonFCI don't know why the IRC server went away, but it's probably just as well that it did.Sep 13 04:02
highest_cubist_thrillshttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=5DoynGDYRoMSep 13 04:03
DaemonFCIt got depressing to meet people and then they were gone.Sep 13 04:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Real Rules About Medicine in Scientology - InvidiousSep 13 04:03
schestowitz[TR]maybe legal issuesSep 13 04:03
schestowitz[TR]I'd imagineSep 13 04:03
schestowitz[TR]there are some possible liabilitiesSep 13 04:03
schestowitz[TR]like, if you give bad adviceSep 13 04:03
schestowitz[TR]and then the family finds outSep 13 04:03
schestowitz[TR]https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrightsSep 13 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLESep 13 04:04
schestowitz[TR]over 500 networks of size >50 at one point https://netsplit.de/networks/Sep 13 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLESep 13 04:04
schestowitz[TR]it used to be 400+Sep 13 04:04
schestowitz[TR]IRC is still steadySep 13 04:04
schestowitz[TR]while social control media is collapsingSep 13 04:05
schestowitz[TR]BTWSep 13 04:05
schestowitz[TR]re FBSep 13 04:05
schestowitz[TR]I read yesterday they lay off more peoplSep 13 04:05
schestowitz[TR]apparently their VR ambitions (aka "METAverse) is floundering alreadySep 13 04:05
DaemonFCI doubt anyone ever expected that to work.Sep 13 04:05
techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, September 12, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextSep 13 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesSep 13 04:06
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: it was vapourwareSep 13 04:06
schestowitz[TR]1) distract from the WBer (FrancisSep 13 04:06
schestowitz[TR]2) change company nameSep 13 04:06
schestowitz[TR]3) tell some BS to shareholdersSep 13 04:06
schestowitz[TR]4) try to compensate for loss of usersSep 13 04:06
schestowitz[TR]tbh, don't know what FBInstagram and WhatApp see in terms of # of usersSep 13 04:06
schestowitz[TR]we just know that for quite a few now FB lost active usersSep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]and then tried to expand in the global southSep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]to make up for the lossesSep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]to artificially inflate numbersSep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]Twitter did that with botsSep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]and algorithks that steer you into busy "tweets"Sep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]and won't let you see all the hidden/abandoned stuffSep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]upcycling "Trafic"Sep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]foir "enegagement";Sep 13 04:07
schestowitz[TR]while screwing all the original usersSep 13 04:08
schestowitz[TR]toi impress shareholdersSep 13 04:08
techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingSep 13 04:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexSep 13 04:08
schestowitz[TR]gosh, mozills killed off so many useful firefox extensionsSep 13 04:09
schestowitz[TR]not just thunderbird onesSep 13 04:09
schestowitz[TR]"unified" experience my a**Sep 13 04:09
schestowitz[TR]they ruin what was good about these Sep 13 04:09
schestowitz[TR]them(e)ing has been reduced to shitty top barSep 13 04:09
schestowitz[TR]you used to be able to control the whole thingSep 13 04:10
schestowitz[TR]menus, menu items, scroll bars..Sep 13 04:10
schestowitz[TR]it was like the 'emacs of browsers'Sep 13 04:10
DaemonFCSeaMonkey clanks and clunks because the Web is shit.Sep 13 04:10
schestowitz[TR]yes, here si the thingSep 13 04:11
DaemonFCBut most of the Web sites that fail are hardly worth using anyway.Sep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]it might sound cornySep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]the web is the browserSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]the browsers are the webSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]they are pairsSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]client/hostSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]sender/receiverSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]renderer/transmitterSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]so as browsers get bloatedSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]so do the sitesSep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]and the w3c 'standards' just catchn upSep 13 04:11
DaemonFCI overheard some chatter that the latest SeaMonkey patches will deal with YouTube better.Sep 13 04:11
schestowitz[TR]with what browsers alreadt implement or implementedSep 13 04:12
DaemonFCBut thanks to sites like these, you're basically just tending to the corpse.Sep 13 04:12
schestowitz[TR]read: chromeSep 13 04:12
highest_cubist_thrillsthe web is the browser | the browsers are the web <- close enoughSep 13 04:12
schestowitz[TR]as so many browsers are not branched off thatSep 13 04:12
highest_cubist_thrillsand theyre both shitSep 13 04:12
schestowitz[TR]so www just becamne "the chrome language"Sep 13 04:12
schestowitz[TR]mozills is like a lame arse imitationSep 13 04:12
schestowitz[TR]witj geckoSep 13 04:12
highest_cubist_thrillsnot historically, but Sep 13 04:12
schestowitz[TR]giving you illusion you are not left outSep 13 04:12
highest_cubist_thrillsin a sense, sort ofSep 13 04:13
schestowitz[TR]"we made the doors wide... for wheelchair"Sep 13 04:13
highest_cubist_thrills/me would like to be left out of the webSep 13 04:13
schestowitz[TR]"enven disabled people can compete"Sep 13 04:13
schestowitz[TR](but they don't stand a chance in the REAL olympics"Sep 13 04:13
schestowitz[TR]mozilla became disabled personSep 13 04:13
schestowitz[TR]apropposSep 13 04:13
highest_cubist_thrills/me give the metaphor a wheelchairSep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]https://blog.mozilla.org/en/interviews/keah-brown-disabled-and-cute-hashtag/Sep 13 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | The children’s book author behind #disabledandcute on her favorite corners of the internetSep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]#disabledandcuteSep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]welcome to the new mozillaSep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]#disabledandcuteSep 13 04:14
highest_cubist_thrillsmozilla isnt cuteSep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]they also did a podcast about covid yesterdaySep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]yes, covidSep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]what the f**rk?Sep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]mozilla..., covid companySep 13 04:14
highest_cubist_thrillsis that the name of their new rendering engine?Sep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]liek FL Sep 13 04:14
schestowitz[TR]LF = vaccinesSep 13 04:15
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/Sep 13 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | TechrightsSep 13 04:15
schestowitz[TR]mozilla is cuteSep 13 04:15
schestowitz[TR]but it's no blinkSep 13 04:15
highest_cubist_thrillsonce an organisation (osi, osfsf, mossilla) stops standing for a causeSep 13 04:15
schestowitz[TR]and no chromiumSep 13 04:15
schestowitz[TR]but it's "cute"Sep 13 04:15
schestowitz[TR]you can avoid gulagSep 13 04:16
highest_cubist_thrillsall thats left is a lot of attention wrhoring for donations / sponsors / pageviewsSep 13 04:16
schestowitz[TR]no, you can't Sep 13 04:16
schestowitz[TR]mozills is controlled by the same bossesSep 13 04:16
schestowitz[TR]and worse: http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/Sep 13 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | TechrightsSep 13 04:16
schestowitz[TR]sounds like conspiracy BS, but it's factualSep 13 04:16
*schestowitz[TR] donates to mozillaSep 13 04:16
schestowitz[TR]lately rianne has been donating to elphant charties several times per week./ maybe she should donate to moz for librewolf ^_^Sep 13 04:17
schestowitz[TR]or just donate directly to librewolfSep 13 04:17
schestowitz[TR]mozilla takes a load of money for spyingSep 13 04:17
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe librewolf should change its name to librelephantSep 13 04:18
schestowitz[TR]and then asks us, the products, for donationsSep 13 04:18
highest_cubist_thrillsmozilla is a scamSep 13 04:18
schestowitz[TR]the money lands in some yuppie's accoutn http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/Sep 13 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) | TechrightsSep 13 04:18
schestowitz[TR]a yuppie who could never programSep 13 04:18
highest_cubist_thrillsbut she does have expensive hairSep 13 04:18
highest_cubist_thrillsunlike some fucking hippiesSep 13 04:18
schestowitz[TR]the hair is a distractionSep 13 04:19
highest_cubist_thrillsi was sure it was in the mission statementSep 13 04:19
schestowitz[TR]she would likely loook like Sinéad O'Connor if she shaved it offSep 13 04:19
highest_cubist_thrillsseriously, the hair is an integral issueSep 13 04:19
schestowitz[TR]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Mitchell_Baker.jpg/220px-Mitchell_Baker.jpgSep 13 04:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 04:20
schestowitz[TR]17 years agoSep 13 04:20
schestowitz[TR]I can imagine her looks nowSep 13 04:20
highest_cubist_thrillsi just picture eva braunSep 13 04:20
schestowitz[TR]2008 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#/media/File:Mitchell_Baker-20081018.jpgSep 13 04:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mitchell Baker - WikipediaSep 13 04:20
schestowitz[TR]looks maleSep 13 04:20
schestowitz[TR]https://www.incimages.com/uploaded_files/image/1920x1080/feature-104-mozilla-pan_7395.jpgSep 13 04:21
schestowitz[TR]she tried modelling the hair after firefoxSep 13 04:21
schestowitz[TR]or vice versa?Sep 13 04:21
schestowitz[TR]hard to find any recent photos of herSep 13 04:22
schestowitz[TR]she is almost retirement age nowSep 13 04:22
schestowitz[TR]65Sep 13 04:22
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe shes in her 40s but adopted mozillas versioningSep 13 04:22
highest_cubist_thrillsnow every few months shes 10 versions olderSep 13 04:22
schestowitz[TR]would you retire when you can still milk over $3 million per year from a company you helped kill?Sep 13 04:22
highest_cubist_thrillswell, im not mitchell bakerSep 13 04:23
schestowitz[TR]seems she evaded cameras in recent yearsSep 13 04:23
schestowitz[TR]hard to find photos from past 10 yearsSep 13 04:23
schestowitz[TR]I can envision it's a piggyback with red hair, sharped to resembled the latest iteration of the logSep 13 04:24
highest_cubist_thrillshow much do the photos matterSep 13 04:24
schestowitz[TR]they keep changing the logoSep 13 04:24
schestowitz[TR]even making it WORSE than prior iterationsSep 13 04:24
schestowitz[TR]it's quicker than fixing firefox Sep 13 04:24
highest_cubist_thrillsi think the fsf has a new logo, but i dont know if its officialSep 13 04:25
highest_cubist_thrillsi meanSep 13 04:25
highest_cubist_thrillswhat does official mean at the fsfSep 13 04:25
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre a farceSep 13 04:25
schestowitz[TR]and they probably paid some "artistic types" in "|Bay Area" like $100,000 each time they muck about with the "swoosh" logoSep 13 04:25
schestowitz[TR]invoice: we made the colours a bit diffewrent, total bill  $100,000Sep 13 04:25
highest_cubist_thrillsor baker takes 100,000 and hires someone outside the subway for $100 and keeps the restSep 13 04:25
schestowitz[TR]the new mozilla logo was widely mockedSep 13 04:25
schestowitz[TR]there were much better proposalaSep 13 04:26
highest_cubist_thrillslets be fairSep 13 04:26
schestowitz[TR]that the community had submittedSep 13 04:26
highest_cubist_thrillsits a stupid projectSep 13 04:26
schestowitz[TR]they rejected theseSep 13 04:26
highest_cubist_thrillsa stupid logo is appropriateSep 13 04:26
highest_cubist_thrillsmoonchild can say "at least we dont use that fucking logo"Sep 13 04:26
schestowitz[TR]https://todaysecommerce.com/web-stories/a-sneak-peek-into-mitchell-bakers-net-worth/Sep 13 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-todaysecommerce.com | A Sneak Peek Into Mitchell Baker's Net Worth - Today's EcommerceSep 13 04:26
highest_cubist_thrillshave some javascriptSep 13 04:26
highest_cubist_thrillsif the economy collapses, maybe she can sell her hairSep 13 04:27
schestowitz[TR]15 millionSep 13 04:27
schestowitz[TR]the number of firefox users in a couple of yearsSep 13 04:27
schestowitz[TR]and how many dollars she tookSep 13 04:27
schestowitz[TR]https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/evolving-the-firefox-brand/Sep 13 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Evolving the Firefox Brand - Mozilla Open DesignSep 13 04:28
schestowitz[TR]https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/now-for-the-fun-part/Sep 13 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Now for the fun part of Mozilla's logo design. - Mozilla Open DesignSep 13 04:28
schestowitz[TR]https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/30/17631766/firefox-logo-redesign-mozilla-user-feedbackSep 13 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Firefox is getting a new logo, and Mozilla wants to hear what users think - The VergeSep 13 04:28
schestowitz[TR]https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/files/2016/08/jb_Mozilla_A_eye_1.jpgSep 13 04:29
schestowitz[TR]eye of saurus :-)Sep 13 04:29
schestowitz[TR]aptSep 13 04:29
schestowitz[TR]given the spywareSep 13 04:29
schestowitz[TR]"mozilla,,,,,,,,, are you... like, watching me?"Sep 13 04:30
schestowitz[TR]mozilla: no!Sep 13 04:30
schestowitz[TR]"telemetry"Sep 13 04:30
schestowitz[TR]"to improve the experience"Sep 13 04:30
schestowitz[TR]"ok, then, mozilla... stay classy"Sep 13 04:31
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont care, because theyre part of the coupSep 13 04:31
schestowitz[TR]oh, waitSep 13 04:32
schestowitz[TR]but nnot officiallySep 13 04:32
highest_cubist_thrillsi will gladly watch mozilla implodeSep 13 04:32
schestowitz[TR]i mean, mozilla as an org/ (company) did not issue a statementSep 13 04:32
schestowitz[TR]suse, for example, didSep 13 04:32
schestowitz[TR]and some staff was not happySep 13 04:32
schestowitz[TR]sap doll as CEO of SUSESep 13 04:32
schestowitz[TR]SAPSep 13 04:32
schestowitz[TR]I mean, she didn't need to make a statementSep 13 04:33
schestowitz[TR]we already know SAP salespeople do not like what RMS says about themSep 13 04:33
schestowitz[TR]it's tragic that a slaeperson from SAP runs SUSESep 13 04:33
schestowitz[TR]even hovsepian was not that badSep 13 04:33
schestowitz[TR]he came from ICBMSep 13 04:33
schestowitz[TR]ICBM "it came from above"Sep 13 04:34
techrights-newsSimon Boak’s SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculator | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/simon-boaks-sb116-is-a-ti-programmer-inspired-diy-calculator/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/simon-boaks-sb116-is-a-ti-programmer-inspired-diy-calculator/Sep 13 04:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Simon Boak's SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculator | Arduino BlogSep 13 04:35
techrights-newsHow to set up Jellyfin on Linux in Docker https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-set-up-jellyfin-on-linux-in-docker/Sep 13 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-set-up-jellyfin-on-linux-in-docker/ )Sep 13 04:36
techrights-news"This write-up will discuss the approaches for checking the type of variable in Java." https://linuxhint.com/check-variable-type-in-java/Sep 13 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to Check Variable Type in JavaSep 13 04:36
techrights-newsNotice how much of the Microsoft-bribed media tries to associate Go (Golang) with malware because people COULD write malware in Go and yet don't mention what became of JavaScript and POWERshellSep 13 04:37
techrights-newsThe B in ICBM stands for Bailout. On an international (I) scale, ICBM relies on government (no-bid) contracts, e.g. for surveillance and weapon systems. ICBM got caught, repeatedly, not just grifting but also bribing (yes, crime, nobody arrested) for such contracts.Sep 13 04:39
techrights-news"I'd like to see Gnome applications written in .NET in version 4.0 - no, version 3.0. But Gnome 4.0 should be based on .NET." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/01/gnome_to_be_based/Sep 13 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Gnome to be based on .NET – de Icaza • The RegisterSep 13 04:40
techrights-newssystemd is controlled by Microsoft on several levels nowSep 13 04:40
techrights-newsGPL is a cancer, say people who profit from cancer and patents on various other fatal diseasesSep 13 04:41
techrights-newsSJVN in his latest ZDNet piece (of s-) neglected to connect patent trolls and their attacks on Free software... to how USELESS the OIN and LOT Network are. Why? Follow the money. He's paid to shill them and pass on their lies.Sep 13 04:43
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techrights-newsLinux Foundation promoting surveillance again https://www.prweb.com/releases/new_metaverse_track_at_o3dcon_to_tackle_big_questions_and_practical_applications_of_emerging_graphical_technology/prweb18891315.htmSep 13 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prweb.com | New Metaverse Track at O3DCon to Tackle Big Questions and Practical Applications of Emerging Graphical TechnologySep 13 04:44
techrights-news1992: "Linux" is a kernel 2002: "Linux" is an operating system 2012: "Linux" is a buzzword (thanks, LF!) 2022: "Linux" is vaccines and surveillance and Microsoft and...Sep 13 04:45
techrights-newsThe metaphysics of ontopoetics and panpsychism gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-09-13.gmiSep 13 04:47
techrights-newsKristall has an utterly dumb way of handling TSL certificates for HTTPS. Very disappointing. It's OK with self-signed for Gemini but not HTTPS? Why? No good reasons!Sep 13 04:56
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techrights-newsOK, Kristall's handling of TSL bullshit is clearly buggy. Worthless.Sep 13 04:59
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techrights-newsWe should be 'forgiving' towards sites that self-sign certificates (many have legitimate reasons) and less 'forgiving' towards Web browsers that deny this. Who are they serving? Users? Sites? Or the CA cartel?Sep 13 05:01
techrights-newsIn the case of Kristall, it seems to boil down to a bug. It does not seem to be actively developed anymore (not since last xmas), so many a fix is not on the way.Sep 13 05:03
DaemonFCTIL: In the UK, they can basically put you on trial as many times as they want as long as they keep saying they found "substantial new evidence".Sep 13 05:07
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DaemonFCDoes Haiku run on any actual hardware.Sep 13 05:31
DaemonFCOr is it one of those "Toss this in a VM and it crashes a lot." things like ReactOS?Sep 13 05:31
schestowitz[TR]good questionSep 13 05:31
DaemonFCI wonder if anyone maintains SeaMonkey or Firefox for Haiku.Sep 13 05:31
schestowitz[TR]but maybe they make a business selling it preloadedSep 13 05:31
DaemonFCTheoretically it should be possible.Sep 13 05:32
schestowitz[TR]netsurfSep 13 05:32
DaemonFCWebPositive is apparently the Haiku replacement for NetPositive in BeOS.Sep 13 05:32
DaemonFCNetPositive had its own rendering engine, and it had haikus for error messages.Sep 13 05:32
DaemonFCBut that was when the Web was so small you could make a 2-3 MB browser that ran it all pretty much if you coded it efficently.Sep 13 05:33
DaemonFC"Bloated" Web browsers were about 40-50 MB.Sep 13 05:33
DaemonFCNetPositive and Opera were small because they were coded efficiently and were not meant to be a platform for application development! Opera was "cross platform" but did not draw its own GUI widgets like Mozilla in XUL.Sep 13 05:34
DaemonFCOn OS/2 it was basically a slightly modified Windows program using Odin.Sep 13 05:34
DaemonFCOn GNU/Linux, Opera used Qt.Sep 13 05:34
DaemonFCClassic Opera was a much better program than Chromium Opera.Sep 13 05:36
DaemonFCWhen they switched to Chromium I basically stopped using Opera.Sep 13 05:36
DaemonFC"Opera Neon concept browser for Mac & Windows"Sep 13 05:38
DaemonFC"Download now Free for Linux "Sep 13 05:38
DaemonFCLOLSep 13 05:38
DaemonFCCrypto Wallet? LOLSep 13 05:42
schestowitz[TR]don't touch ma wallet maaanSep 13 05:42
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: I will put my crypto family photo in my crypto walletSep 13 05:42
schestowitz[TR]along with my crypto keys... to the homeSep 13 05:43
schestowitz[TR]don't forget to put a cryptoi condom in your crypto walletSep 13 05:43
schestowitz[TR]btw, how is marisol'd crypto wallet doing?Sep 13 05:43
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schestowitz[TR]wbSep 13 05:50
schestowitz[TR]I've just recorded a videoSep 13 05:50
schestowitz[TR]i really ought to get back to doing 3 per daySep 13 05:51
schestowitz[TR]but topics are not easy to findSep 13 05:51
schestowitz[TR]if you avoid repetition of themesSep 13 05:51
highest_cubist_thrillsyeahSep 13 05:51
highest_cubist_thrillsive been looking online for any signs that anyone actually gives a shit about free softwareSep 13 05:51
schestowitz[TR]rms talks are typically 50% or more reuseSep 13 05:51
schestowitz[TR]the Q and A has some new materialSep 13 05:51
highest_cubist_thrillsonce you make it about everything else insteadSep 13 05:51
highest_cubist_thrillsit pretty much becomes about everything else insteadSep 13 05:51
schestowitz[TR]but he then comments on things he does not know, never use, cannot undeersatndSep 13 05:52
highest_cubist_thrillswell, hes deadSep 13 05:52
schestowitz[TR]or say things someone told himSep 13 05:52
highest_cubist_thrillshes a puppet without a handSep 13 05:52
highest_cubist_thrillspropped up in a corner with nothing to saySep 13 05:52
schestowitz[TR]he softened a bitSep 13 05:53
schestowitz[TR]he no longer says stuff likeSep 13 05:53
schestowitz[TR]proprietary is evilSep 13 05:53
highest_cubist_thrillshes been tenderisedSep 13 05:53
schestowitz[TR]because it's not suit-friendlySep 13 05:53
schestowitz[TR]so they encourage him to water down his free expressionSep 13 05:53
schestowitz[TR]and it showsSep 13 05:53
schestowitz[TR]same with torvaldsSep 13 05:53
schestowitz[TR]forced to take manners "Training"Sep 13 05:53
highest_cubist_thrillswell ive been saying it for two years Sep 13 05:53
highest_cubist_thrillsthe real stallman is not coming backSep 13 05:54
highest_cubist_thrillssame with torvaldsSep 13 05:54
schestowitz[TR]here sia  term for youSep 13 05:54
schestowitz[TR]"manners talibanism"Sep 13 05:54
highest_cubist_thrillsfancySep 13 05:54
highest_cubist_thrillsheres oneSep 13 05:54
highest_cubist_thrillsstockholm syndromeSep 13 05:54
schestowitz[TR]oh, btwSep 13 05:54
schestowitz[TR]sweden voted for the rightSep 13 05:54
schestowitz[TR]they seem to not want taliban taking over   their countrySep 13 05:55
schestowitz[TR]which is unexpected for those who thought swedes were liberalSep 13 05:55
highest_cubist_thrillsthats just being wrong for the right reasonsSep 13 05:55
highest_cubist_thrillswhat makes the taliban a threat to sweden?Sep 13 05:55
schestowitz[TR]I'm refering to people who reject the cultureSep 13 05:56
schestowitz[TR]and form neighbourhood-wide 'colonies'Sep 13 05:56
schestowitz[TR]it's not a qunieuly swedish problemSep 13 05:56
highest_cubist_thrillswhat you mean immigrantsSep 13 05:56
schestowitz[TR]but going back to softwareSep 13 05:56
schestowitz[TR]the FSF has been coopted by pseudo-mannersSep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]so it cannot say spyware and stuff is evilSep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]it's not good for sponsoresSep 13 05:57
highest_cubist_thrillsit cant do anythingSep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]same for politiciansSep 13 05:57
highest_cubist_thrillsits the new osiSep 13 05:57
highest_cubist_thrillsi called them the osfsf earlier Sep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]immigrants per se are not a problemSep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]many immigrants integrate OKSep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]companies can donate to the fsfSep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]and support what fsf stands forSep 13 05:57
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean loads of brazilians in the same sectionSep 13 05:57
schestowitz[TR]not tryint to change the fsfSep 13 05:57
highest_cubist_thrillsspeaking portuguese and opening portguese businessesSep 13 05:58
highest_cubist_thrillswhich is no problem at allSep 13 05:58
schestowitz[TR]even if rms could speak portguese, he could still be attackedSep 13 05:58
schestowitz[TR]and wouldSep 13 05:58
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah i meant regarding "neighbourhoodwide 'colonies'"Sep 13 05:59
schestowitz[TR]FSF is coloniusedSep 13 05:59
schestowitz[TR]by people who want to be sheltered thereSep 13 05:59
schestowitz[TR]like LF, OSI...Sep 13 05:59
schestowitz[TR]they attack what they enter Sep 13 05:59
highest_cubist_thrillsits been taken over by corporationsSep 13 05:59
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schestowitz[TR]LF has just openeashed Microsoft againSep 13 05:59
highest_cubist_thrillswho dont want users to be freeSep 13 05:59
highest_cubist_thrillsturning the fsf into a fraudSep 13 05:59
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highest_cubist_thrillslf is just marketing for microsoft, nothing elseSep 13 06:00
schestowitz[TR]"Microsoft loves Open SOurce"Sep 13 06:00
highest_cubist_thrillsthe fsf is turning into thatSep 13 06:00
schestowitz[TR]->Microsoft occupies Open Source[tm]Sep 13 06:00
highest_cubist_thrillsgithub makes an lf of everything.Sep 13 06:00
schestowitz[TR]Github is PROPRIETARYSep 13 06:00
schestowitz[TR]OSI LOVES GitHubSep 13 06:00
highest_cubist_thrillsgithub + fsf = lfSep 13 06:00
schestowitz[TR]OSI takes bribes fromGitHubSep 13 06:00
schestowitz[TR]OSI launders money forGitHubSep 13 06:00
highest_cubist_thrillsand more to the pointSep 13 06:00
highest_cubist_thrillsno one does anything about itSep 13 06:00
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause everyone at the fsf is fucking uselessSep 13 06:00
highest_cubist_thrillsuselessSep 13 06:01
highest_cubist_thrillstheres no need to suck up to themSep 13 06:01
highest_cubist_thrillsthey only take up spaceSep 13 06:01
highest_cubist_thrillsthey promote bullshit Sep 13 06:01
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre scabsSep 13 06:01
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre corporate scabsSep 13 06:01
schestowitz[TR]gtg biabSep 13 06:01
highest_cubist_thrillslolSep 13 06:01
highest_cubist_thrills2014: debian taken overSep 13 06:04
highest_cubist_thrills2018: github taken overSep 13 06:04
highest_cubist_thrills2019: fsf taken overSep 13 06:04
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe these dates are later than they should be-- these are conservative estimatesSep 13 06:04
highest_cubist_thrillstied to major events rather than causesSep 13 06:05
highest_cubist_thrillsif you date by cause they would be earlierSep 13 06:05
highest_cubist_thrills2019: fsf taken over <- gnu as well (ongoing)Sep 13 06:07
highest_cubist_thrillsthe takeover of gnu has been relentlessSep 13 06:08
highest_cubist_thrillsthe people who "failed" are now in control Sep 13 06:08
highest_cubist_thrillssurprise, its ibm and microsoftSep 13 06:09
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highest_cubist_thrills2011: stallman resigns as chief gnuisance, settles for an advisory roleSep 13 06:14
highest_cubist_thrillshe softened then, tooSep 13 06:15
highest_cubist_thrillsthat would have been okay, if someone else had done the same job he needed toSep 13 06:15
highest_cubist_thrillsthe gnu project is full of sheepSep 13 06:15
highest_cubist_thrillsits run by wolvesSep 13 06:16
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre going to tear it to shredsSep 13 06:16
highest_cubist_thrillswait until duix find out that no only emacs users will hold out for gnu 2.0Sep 13 06:18
highest_cubist_thrillsas the world discovers that duix stands for nothingSep 13 06:18
highest_cubist_thrillsand thus has no featuresSep 13 06:18
highest_cubist_thrillsits a glorified package manager for emacs posing as an operating systemSep 13 06:19
highest_cubist_thrillsemacs and gcc are both being taken overSep 13 06:19
highest_cubist_thrillsa future as shiny as red hatSep 13 06:19
highest_cubist_thrillsat best-- duix is doing for ibm what oliva did for red hatSep 13 06:20
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highest_cubist_thrillsi bet you in the future, one of the duix leads goes to work for microsoftSep 13 06:20
highest_cubist_thrillsthe fsf move from issues to marketing will finally reach the top gnu projectsSep 13 06:21
highest_cubist_thrillsyoull see the duix logo everywhere you turnSep 13 06:21
highest_cubist_thrillsand then just like epstein, it will be goneSep 13 06:21
highest_cubist_thrillsand that will be gnuSep 13 06:21
highest_cubist_thrillsthe fully free distros will no longer be updated regularly, but fall behind like they used toSep 13 06:22
highest_cubist_thrillsand the last big projects will be gcc (ibm) and wget (github) and emacs (which will also be github)Sep 13 06:23
highest_cubist_thrillsgcc and emacs-- just like when it startedSep 13 06:23
highest_cubist_thrillslike the end of the tron movie when the mcp became a printout of flynns computer gameSep 13 06:24
highest_cubist_thrillsno one will care about wget, theyll use curl (github)Sep 13 06:24
highest_cubist_thrillsi wonder what it will take for bash to dieSep 13 06:26
highest_cubist_thrillshard for me to guess what shell will become a bigger dealSep 13 06:27
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont like any of themSep 13 06:27
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre all bloated and ridiculousSep 13 06:27
highest_cubist_thrillswhich is why i dont like bashSep 13 06:27
highest_cubist_thrillsi do like <() thoughSep 13 06:29
highest_cubist_thrills <() is coolSep 13 06:29
highest_cubist_thrillsthe one bash feature i dont use anymore, because its not available (when i dont use bash)Sep 13 06:29
highest_cubist_thrills<highest_cubist_thrills> i wonder what it will take for bash to dieSep 13 06:40
highest_cubist_thrillsprobably it will just move to github with the rest of what used to be gnuSep 13 06:40
highest_cubist_thrillsthanks to the people who used to be free software developersSep 13 06:41
highest_cubist_thrillspart of a movement that used to be about users controlling their computingSep 13 06:41
highest_cubist_thrillswhich is now a contest to see who can take bill the deepestSep 13 06:41
geerthmm i think it would then proof more accurate to focus to pharmaSep 13 06:42
highest_cubist_thrillswell if i simply hated bill gates for being bill gatesSep 13 06:43
highest_cubist_thrillsthat would be a reasonable pointSep 13 06:43
geertlike tryna catch bill via software... he kinda gets to delegate about almost all of that to othersSep 13 06:43
highest_cubist_thrillsbut since what i particularly resent is the entire free software movement bending over for monopoliesSep 13 06:43
highest_cubist_thrillspharma kinda has fuck-all to do with itSep 13 06:43
geertwell much drive there kinda didnt got to develop software for the right goalsSep 13 06:44
geertmeaning they did it to gain userbase/fame/popularity/educateSep 13 06:44
geertmeaning kind of laying the definition of success in the hands of othersSep 13 06:44
geertand then when they found many others to be bigoted leeching ignorant goonsSep 13 06:44
highest_cubist_thrillssure, if you put your hand on the scaleSep 13 06:44
geertthey kinda proof theyd idnt develop 'free software' for the right goals, hence unable to be affected all too much by userbase/fame/popularity/educate etcSep 13 06:44
highest_cubist_thrillseveryone weighs a few stone moreSep 13 06:45
highest_cubist_thrillsthey kinda proof theyd idnt develop 'free software' for the right goals <- my bullshit meter just exploded Sep 13 06:45
geertand they proof very influencable, they put their definition of success, so to speak, in the hands of what they later figured ignorant etc.Sep 13 06:45
geertso they practically, many of them, gave those influence to their development effortsSep 13 06:45
geertand the many ignorant well, they didnt really use it but rather abuse itSep 13 06:46
highest_cubist_thrillsthis is a fairly elitist take on software freedomSep 13 06:46
geertso then many people figured, well, i dont wana this struggle costing lots of time if going along with 'time is money' means me getting large house etc.Sep 13 06:46
geertim not wanting miss out on large house for ignorantsSep 13 06:46
geertsomething along those linesSep 13 06:46
geertso many kind of retreatedSep 13 06:46
geerti think thats what you talking aboutSep 13 06:46
highest_cubist_thrillsits notSep 13 06:46
highest_cubist_thrillsthats a very weird interpretationSep 13 06:47
highest_cubist_thrillssounds more like some youtube guys takeSep 13 06:47
geertwell i gotto admit i didnt just read through anythingSep 13 06:47
geertwhich probably a bit rudeSep 13 06:47
highest_cubist_thrillsno its fineSep 13 06:47
geerti gotto react to, lemme get itSep 13 06:47
highest_cubist_thrillsim not mental outlaw, distrotube or... Sep 13 06:47
geertwell those later lines like about 'deepest' i got to react toSep 13 06:48
highest_cubist_thrillswhos the "cuck licenses" guySep 13 06:48
highest_cubist_thrills<geert> well those later lines like about 'deepest' i got to react to <- i suppose thats trueSep 13 06:48
geertyea it wasnt to prescribe your opinionsSep 13 06:48
geerti dont like such rude hostility mentallySep 13 06:48
geerthostility dont necessarily need to be physically, but you probably get to knowSep 13 06:49
geertanyways if you get to feel depressed about it, i think you better notSep 13 06:49
highest_cubist_thrillsno everybodys happy nowSep 13 06:49
geertyou should react eloquently and adequately to what you get offered via 'reality'Sep 13 06:49
highest_cubist_thrillsby order of lieplanetSep 13 06:49
highest_cubist_thrillshappiness is mandatorySep 13 06:49
highest_cubist_thrillsmanners are lawSep 13 06:49
highest_cubist_thrillseveryone is cool nowSep 13 06:49
highest_cubist_thrillsits greatSep 13 06:49
geerthmmm i kind of didnt really got to mean it like thatSep 13 06:50
highest_cubist_thrillsmicrosoft can take over, we can like itSep 13 06:50
highest_cubist_thrillswhat more do we needSep 13 06:50
highest_cubist_thrillsno but thats the thingSep 13 06:50
highest_cubist_thrillsno matter how you meant it personallySep 13 06:50
geertwell i think its gona turn a bit different with gates than many expectSep 13 06:50
highest_cubist_thrillsthats the order of the daySep 13 06:50
geertand i think it doesnt even take so mmuch longer anymoreSep 13 06:50
geertactually and no you cannot 'enforce' people to 'be happy'Sep 13 06:50
geertlies are not very good, this is not a very smart thing to do to give in to liesSep 13 06:51
geerthappiness mandatory is not how happiness works, its how people wana disguise nasty shit as an exampleSep 13 06:51
highest_cubist_thrillsactually and no you cannot 'enforce' people to 'be happy' <- thats what a cult ISSep 13 06:51
geertbut you seem to get to know about thatSep 13 06:51
geertthe cult rather tries utilize fear and disguise that behind as if favoring happiness i guessSep 13 06:52
highest_cubist_thrillsysSep 13 06:52
highest_cubist_thrillsyesSep 13 06:52
geertnot everyone is cool and many manners are just crap that shouldnt even come close to be considered 'law'Sep 13 06:52
highest_cubist_thrillsi agreeSep 13 06:52
geertnah you seem influenced by much crap into something like negativism or even depressionSep 13 06:52
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah, i get that when i say negative thingsSep 13 06:53
geertand i would like to point out to you: there are more possibilities than difficulties, any day, any nightSep 13 06:53
highest_cubist_thrillsi keep meaning to turn myself into a reeducation centreSep 13 06:53
highest_cubist_thrillsbut there isnt one on the bus lines yetSep 13 06:53
geertit seem like you misfocus, like you got to study mishaps, wrongdoing and lots of crap and now are more or less subconsciously misfocussing onto difficulties as if there were more difficulties than possibilitiesSep 13 06:53
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre popping up everywhere so i figure there will be one thats easy to get to soon enoughSep 13 06:53
geertbut i wouldnt want you to act as if you get better focus if for whatever reason misfocus continues to be issueSep 13 06:54
highest_cubist_thrillswhat should i focus onSep 13 06:54
geertsome call it acting, and over the bag of so called 'your own health' either mentally or physicallySep 13 06:54
geertwell i got toexperience some many issues also while ago and i wish you do not act about it i guessSep 13 06:54
geertmore possibilities than difficulties, that is better focusSep 13 06:55
highest_cubist_thrillshave you ever tried gentoo?Sep 13 06:55
geertyea some bit of playing aroundSep 13 06:55
geertnot really tried too much although i got to plan hump it a little so to saySep 13 06:55
geertexperiences should favor possibilities, not difficulties <-- better focusSep 13 06:56
geertyou dont get experiences to kind of automutilate yourself psychologically so to saySep 13 06:56
geerti wish yyou dont consider that assault when i get to say things so directly.. :SSep 13 06:56
geertlook it seem easy talking to me but man i got to bump the geert nose into so many wallsSep 13 06:57
geertkinda miracle i still get to yap irc lines at youSep 13 06:57
geertso to speak :/Sep 13 06:57
geerteasy talking from me*Sep 13 06:57
geertjap irc lines* seems more proper utilization of english to meSep 13 06:57
highest_cubist_thrillsthe trick to english is to say something meaningfulSep 13 06:58
highest_cubist_thrillsits definitely a trick, they dont teach it in schoolsSep 13 06:58
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geertwell if somebody dont want to read the meaningful and act as if it depend on some punctuation or spelling...Sep 13 07:02
geerti think the trick is then hijacked by ignorant influence that one dont need depend onSep 13 07:02
geertsort of, so to saySep 13 07:02
geertoften this go together with lack of questionSep 13 07:02
highest_cubist_thrillsyou know many years agoSep 13 07:03
highest_cubist_thrillspeople came and took my country away from meSep 13 07:03
geertoof that appear like serious wrongdoing to meSep 13 07:04
geertwhat country ifyou dont get to mind me asking?Sep 13 07:04
highest_cubist_thrillseven since then ive tried to figure out whySep 13 07:04
highest_cubist_thrillsa european country, its not important which oneSep 13 07:04
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean, it used to be europeanSep 13 07:05
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont know what it is anymoreSep 13 07:05
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: Things must be getting bad.Sep 13 07:05
geertoof it just feel heavy stuff to me, i get some experience regarding that kind of wrongdoingSep 13 07:05
DaemonFCThe movies brought back Jaws and other old stuff.Sep 13 07:05
DaemonFCThey can't get people in to see the new ones.Sep 13 07:05
highest_cubist_thrillswhat happened to you?Sep 13 07:05
geertoof, quite a long explanation. i got to point out some things and people tried attacking me for it, some of emSep 13 07:06
geertvery secretly, in ways that others wouldnt see as they figured they could control it, partly by abusing pretty modern govt state security meansSep 13 07:06
geerttried make me appear crazy in eyes of parents etc.Sep 13 07:06
geertcomes much to it, its not yet finishedSep 13 07:07
geerti still get to be in the country thoughSep 13 07:07
highest_cubist_thrillsthe media in particular makes it worseSep 13 07:07
highest_cubist_thrillsalways slanting every storySep 13 07:07
geertreal media is transfer type to message, much media want control the message instead of better control transfer processSep 13 07:07
geertmuch so called nowadays media* i dont thin it really matches original definition of real mediaSep 13 07:08
geertits fundamentally different what they get to doSep 13 07:08
geerta little what seems to have happened to the word 'general'Sep 13 07:08
geertsame words like many years agoSep 13 07:08
geertdifferent functionSep 13 07:08
highest_cubist_thrillswords lose meaning when people forget where they came fromSep 13 07:08
geertthey dont really lose meaning because people forgetSep 13 07:09
geertbut forgetful people are often abused by lewd other people so to saySep 13 07:09
highest_cubist_thrillsbut what about the journalistsSep 13 07:09
geertthey wana utilize the ignorance or naivity of fellow, often because nasty goalsSep 13 07:09
geertjournalist should not lie, if they lie, they put focus on message instead of transporting itSep 13 07:10
geertthey then move from telling you something, or me, to interpreting itSep 13 07:10
geertthat is kind of elitist uber/untermensch realitySep 13 07:10
highest_cubist_thrills :)Sep 13 07:10
geerthow dare they assume they need to interpret for me or you without asking decent questions first calling it transportationSep 13 07:10
highest_cubist_thrillsanother fucking handle, for gods sakeSep 13 07:11
geertwords dont just lose meaning, but some want to bend definition to terms secretlySep 13 07:11
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geertoof i get worried feelSep 13 07:11
geertsomebody who get to know this person should try reroute focus to possiblities and watch negativism isnt kind of taking over, try to helpSep 13 07:12
geertlisten its not some joke, that is like fellow people, he dont really appear like some ignorant goon who just tryna phish to meSep 13 07:12
geertehm.. read* instead of listen ofcSep 13 07:13
geertanywayswhy would that person just leave from this irc context?i get worried feel!Sep 13 07:13
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highest_cubist_thrillsmotherfuckerSep 13 07:13
geertdid you get feel like i got you hurt?Sep 13 07:14
geerti didnt really want toSep 13 07:14
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geerti seriously think you got some focus issue difficulty that i think you should try focus differentlySep 13 07:14
geertyou get lots of experience, many many causes/reasons and possibilities like that!Sep 13 07:15
highest_cubist_thrillshitler reacts to guy in irc with 1000 fucking handlesSep 13 07:15
geerthitler is over, the adolf one. maybe some family or somethingSep 13 07:16
geertis just like past, over, finito, finished, he tried mess with many fellow, he got bear heavy reality that he figured able to work into such heavy, so to saySep 13 07:17
geertwe dont need too much think about it, its arranged, its overSep 13 07:17
geertwtf did he got to achieve? its lots of misery man, preferably dont idolize it, let go, its over with that former goonSep 13 07:17
geertformer coz its overSep 13 07:17
geertfinito, finished.Sep 13 07:17
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highest_cubist_thrillsif anyone wants to know what chuck norris would be like as a german nationalist softboySep 13 07:23
highest_cubist_thrillscome to #techrights, we can show youSep 13 07:23
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: I will put my crypto family photo in my crypto walletSep 13 07:23
DaemonFCNFFs. Non-Fungible FamilySep 13 07:23
DaemonFCJust chop the family up and turn them into NFFs.Sep 13 07:24
DaemonFCWhen the police arrive, say NO NO, THEY'RE IN THE BLOCKCHAIN!Sep 13 07:24
DaemonFCREALLY!Sep 13 07:24
DaemonFCYOU JUST CAN'T SEE THEM BECAUSE REASONS......Sep 13 07:24
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR]btw, how is marisol'd crypto wallet doing?Sep 13 07:25
DaemonFCBadly, I'm sure.Sep 13 07:25
DaemonFCVery sophisticated.Sep 13 07:25
DaemonFCShe has everything figured out.Sep 13 07:25
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: I just enrolled in a COVID-19 study.Sep 13 07:27
DaemonFCI think it should be fairly harmless.Sep 13 07:27
DaemonFCThey just send you a year's worth of Vitamin D3 and it'll either be 400 IU or 4,000 IU and you won't know which.Sep 13 07:28
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DaemonFCThey ask you to stop taking any other supplemental Vitamin D3, and they give you COVID tests.Sep 13 07:28
DaemonFCThey ask you to use one of the COVID tests each week and report in for a year.Sep 13 07:28
DaemonFCIt's to see if supplemental Vitamin D3 has any effect on whether people get COVID during the next year.Sep 13 07:29
DaemonFCFinally someone is studying this.Sep 13 07:30
geertwell better be careful with teh drugsSep 13 07:32
geertanyways ima get some sleep i guessSep 13 07:32
geertits kind of 8.30 am local time /CET hereSep 13 07:32
geertbetter not tell mom i guessSep 13 07:32
geertohand if 'hackers' tryna break opsec etc. tryna steal 'stash' here, ima get warning; theres so much goons tryna fish around here, you cannot get through unseen plus you deliver lots of info about what you think you can do, trickery etc. including zerodays before you even finish trying, they see, and i guess you rather get paid for zerodays than leaking like a old granny hoeSep 13 07:34
geertoh and*Sep 13 07:34
DaemonFCVitamin D is pretty safe as long as you don't go too crazy (over 5,000 IU per day) with the supplements.Sep 13 07:35
geertand i dont put stash in such environments btw so etc.Sep 13 07:35
geertso ima try sleep, bbl :)Sep 13 07:36
DaemonFCIf you go over that, it should be because your doctor is prescribing it and monitoring your blood levels.Sep 13 07:36
geerttry not to piss it out, since intake such vitamins is related to some triggers otherwise you might piss lots outSep 13 07:36
geertoh i should try sleep i guess bbl :)Sep 13 07:37
lonermorningSep 13 07:39
loneranyway, currently, as usual, after the first coffee and cigeratte passed the brain-blood barrierSep 13 07:40
loneri began thinkingSep 13 07:40
lonerwhat if, i wanted to remove _all_ software which requires the GNU(!) autotools/automakeSep 13 07:40
lonera userspace, such as toybox, don't need themSep 13 07:41
mjg59_Why not just start from the Android userlandSep 13 07:42
mjg59_It has no GNU and it already targets LinuxSep 13 07:42
lonermjg59_: i am not concerned about GNU itself nor GPLSep 13 07:42
lonerit is the GNU-toolchain (gcc/binutils/...), and GNU build-system (autotools, make, ...)Sep 13 07:42
mjg59_Yes, and Android doesn't use the GNU build-systemSep 13 07:43
loneranyway, development utilititiesSep 13 07:43
lonervim doesn't need autotools, tcc-toolchain doesn'tSep 13 07:44
chunkyi love vim sosoososoo much!!!!Sep 13 07:44
lonerhere comes the first one: dev-vcs/gitSep 13 07:45
lonergit does utilize a configure.ac, at least no Makefile.amSep 13 07:47
lonerhowever, a configure.ac builds up such a giant dependency graph, that's bad enoughSep 13 07:47
lonerreminder, i had to roll-back perl to version 5.8 (year 2003), any later didn't pass tcc-toolchainSep 13 07:48
lonergit git git gitSep 13 07:48
lonerand i think, for kernel itself, the kbuild-system requires perl too; at least perl doesn't utilize autotoolsSep 13 07:50
lonerhence, perl won't blockSep 13 07:50
lonergit willSep 13 07:50
DaemonFCI swear someone in Hollywood is literally just digging up my beloved childhood movies and redoing them with a Chinese Communist official and Matthew Garrett striking through the parts of the final draft they don't like, which was written by the script writers of those Redbox Bruce Willis movies.Sep 13 07:50
DaemonFCGarrett moves on from the software industry.....Sep 13 07:51
DaemonFCmjg59_Why not just start from the Android userlandSep 13 07:51
DaemonFCmjg59_It has no GNU and it already targets LinuxSep 13 07:51
DaemonFCI tried to run an Android "app" on Fedora today.Sep 13 07:51
DaemonFCIt was packaged in Flatpak.Sep 13 07:51
DaemonFCAs soon as I ran it, my computer started flaking out and then crashed.Sep 13 07:52
DaemonFCI had to hold in the power button.Sep 13 07:52
DaemonFCIt was almost exactly like something that happens a few times a week under Windows.Sep 13 07:52
DaemonFCFirst time in 16 years I had a complete system crash using a stable GNU/Linux distribution, and it was because I loaded an Android "app.Sep 13 07:52
lonerdev-vcs/git is worth the effort, to manually track the config.h i thinkSep 13 07:53
lonerhowever, git got dependencies... openssl/libressl (ouch, another configure.ac), zlibSep 13 07:56
loneretc etc.Sep 13 07:56
lonermaybe, git can be linked against bearssl/bearssl-libtlsSep 13 07:56
DaemonFCThings probably can't get much worse than OpenSSL.Sep 13 07:57
loneri think oasis linux integrated bearssl, and chances are this too included gitSep 13 07:58
lonerthat's not a blocker, not yetSep 13 07:58
DaemonFChttps://research.swtch.com/opensslSep 13 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-research.swtch.com | research!rsc: Lessons from the Debian/OpenSSL FiascoSep 13 07:58
lonerwithout git, live got no meaning no moreSep 13 07:58
DaemonFCExcept for the time Debian took OpenSSL and made it worse somehow.Sep 13 07:58
loneri had bearssl/bearssl-libtls on TODO for a while alreadySep 13 07:59
DaemonFC" Last week, Debian announced that in September 2006 they accidentally broke the OpenSSL pseudo-random number generator while trying to silence a Valgrind warning. One effect this had is that the ssh-keygen program installed on recent Debian systems (and Debian-derived systems like Ubuntu) could only generate 32,767 different possible SSH keys of a given type and size, so there are a lot of...Sep 13 07:59
DaemonFC...people walking around with the same keys. "Sep 13 07:59
DaemonFC:)Sep 13 07:59
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lonergot a test-integration already, catgirl irc linked against it, statically... it works, bearssl i meanSep 13 07:59
lonersys-libs/zlib -> autotools, ouchSep 13 08:01
DaemonFC"There were other MD_update calls in the code that didn't use buf, and those remained. The only one that was a little unpredictable was one in RAND_bytes that added the current process ID to the entropy pool on each call. That's why OpenSSH could still generate 32,767 possible SSH keys of a given type and size (one for each pid) instead of just one. "Sep 13 08:02
DaemonFCWell, if it always generated the same key, then it would have been spotted sooner, I suppose. :)Sep 13 08:02
lonerzlib could be, it's optional with dev-vcs/git... i hopeSep 13 08:03
DaemonFC"The OpenSSL code's paranoia hid the Debian-introduced bug. Throwing the pid into the entropy pool on each call to RAND_bytes isn't actually helping create entropy, but it does keep the buggy Debian version from being completely deterministic. If it had been completely deterministic, the bug would likely have been noticed much sooner, probably long before it got into a stable release. "Sep 13 08:04
lonerallright, this is the plan nowSep 13 08:05
loner1) verify mes-libc from bootstrappable, to compile/link/assemble this one with tcc-toolchainSep 13 08:06
loner2) compile/link toybox userspace against mes-libcSep 13 08:06
DaemonFChttps://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/09/ipod/Sep 13 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: iPodSep 13 08:06
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: JWZ finally calls it the "clown".Sep 13 08:06
DaemonFC"streaming clown nonsense"Sep 13 08:06
DaemonFC:)Sep 13 08:06
DaemonFC"I picked up a refurbished iPod 5 with 1TB of storage. I am trying this experiment because the iOS "Music" app just gets more and more annoying with every passing month. It barely seems to acknowledge that one might play music from files that one owns rather than whatever streaming clown nonsense."Sep 13 08:06
loner3) bearssl/libtls, git, vim... all of them linked against mes-libc (if possible)Sep 13 08:07
lonerthe bootstrappable.org people reported success with mes-libc compiled with tcc-toolchain, and bash linked against itSep 13 08:07
DaemonFC"Anyway, I got this iPod and then I immediately bricked it.Sep 13 08:07
DaemonFCI verified that it was working with a few dozen songs; and then I copied around 67,000 tracks onto it, which took two days. This caused it to become permanently stuck at the white-on-black Apple logo boot screen."Sep 13 08:07
DaemonFCHe bricked what was a VERY expensive MP3 player by copying MP3s to it.Sep 13 08:08
DaemonFCAnd instead of failing to handle it in some SANE manner if there was a good reason not to, it broke the piece of shit instead.Sep 13 08:08
DaemonFCMinceR: ^ AppleSep 13 08:08
lonerhence, toybox could be possible/feasible; then git, vim, posix make etc. to retain a usable userspace including required development utilities including tcc-toolchainSep 13 08:08
lonerhowever, without GNU-toolchain and without GNU-buildsystemSep 13 08:08
lonerand the system must remain self-hosting, meaning it must contain all utilities to compile/bootstrap itselfSep 13 08:09
lonerif this succeeds, i'll re-iterate over linux kernel-build with tcc-toolchainSep 13 08:09
loneri mean, i would even be willing to roll-back to kernel linux-2.4 on x86 if necessarySep 13 08:10
lonerin the end, the final system bundle will be minimal anyway, hence i too would be willing to drop dev-vcs/git and move to rcs/cvs if necessarySep 13 08:12
lonerscraping required sources, and ditch the clutterSep 13 08:13
lonerwhat else?Sep 13 08:13
lonerthe central elements of this approach are: tcc-toolchain and libc firstSep 13 08:14
DaemonFChttps://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.htmlSep 13 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cfenollosa.com | After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won.Sep 13 08:17
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]: ^Sep 13 08:17
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lonermjg59_: Android's policy is "no GPL in userspace", for political reasons, political reasons i disagree withSep 13 08:20
loneri am not at all opposed to GPL, in fact i consider GPL (copyleft) too _weak_ to protect software freedomSep 13 08:20
lonerthe reasons to avoid GNU-toolchain and buildsystem are _technical_ onesSep 13 08:21
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lonerbtw. a rollback to linux-2.4, if necessary, wouldn't block against an open-hardware option eitherSep 13 08:26
lonersome i486 SoC are documented for deployment to FPGA, although incomplete, Altera FPGA being expensive, and mostly proprietarySep 13 08:27
lonerhowever, deep down below in this realm j-core.org too struggled with similar problems, and anyone else will too ... RISC-VSep 13 08:28
lonerwith an x86 open-hardware SoC other problems remain: peripheral I/O (usb, vga, ethernet etc);Sep 13 08:28
lonerand even some very expensive Altera FPGA ($800), barely sufficed to push beyond a few dozen MHzSep 13 08:29
techrights-newsNotice how SJVN and OIN refuse or fail to speak about software patents as the issue, they blame "trolls". IBM, Microsoft, LF etc. are not against software patents; watch who they collect bribes from!Sep 13 08:29
lonerhttps://github.com/alfikpl/ao486Sep 13 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - alfikpl/ao486: The ao486 is an x86 compatible Verilog core implementing all features of a 486 SX.Sep 13 08:30
loneranyway, i finished archival of the gcc47 c-only toolchain system profileSep 13 08:32
lonerit works, got a w3m browser still, some sixel graphics, even some multi-media fun with libsdl1,mplayer etc.Sep 13 08:32
loneralmost all of this passed with tcc-toolchain too btw.; except libcSep 13 08:33
lonerand once libc is replaced with mes-libc (if possible, not sure yet), most of the c-only toolchain profile userspace will be goneSep 13 08:33
lonertoo for the reason, i am not willing to struggle with autotools anymoreSep 13 08:33
lonerit'll be two system-profiles 1) gcc47 2) tcc-toolchainSep 13 08:34
lonerthe gcc47 system remained gentoo/self-hosting, against a recent portage testing from february this yearSep 13 08:34
lonerand the gcc47 system too can emit a tcc-toolchain system devdrop (including mplayer,libsdl1 etc)Sep 13 08:35
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lonerhowever, the tcc-toolchain profile is still blocked against libc which requires binutilsSep 13 08:35
lonerhenceforth, a tcc-toolchain system profile will require a rebuild from scratchSep 13 08:36
lonerbeginning with mes-libc and toybox userspace and the fun mentioned aboveSep 13 08:36
lonerin the end, a tcc-toolchain system, if at all, will roll-back to late 1990s "free software"Sep 13 08:37
lonerthinking about it, a rollback to kernel-2.4 (or any 2.6)... nilfs2 filesystem support will be goneSep 13 08:39
loneri don't care, ext2 will be fine tooSep 13 08:40
lonerallright, another decision made, rollback to linux-2.4/2.6, any which passed with tcc-toolchainSep 13 08:42
lonerfor the sake of simplicity, any recent hardware-trends which require a recent kernel are, not irelevant, including RISC-VSep 13 08:42
loner*not relevantSep 13 08:42
lonerwith kernel-2.4/2.6 targetting any legacy x86 system, i won't need to bother with difficult tcc-toolchain integration, this was accomplished alreadySep 13 08:43
lonerbesides, ARM and RISC-V often utilize uboot-loader, and uboot got some nasty build-time dependencies (c++/python/swig)Sep 13 08:43
lonerthose dependencies are a nasty blocker, hence i am not aware of a bootstrapping path of python2/3 with tcc-toolchainSep 13 08:44
lonerit's mainly libffi, i am not willing to hack this, only to support uboot-loaderSep 13 08:44
lonerand tcc-toolchain integration with uboot-loader had not been approached by anyone yet either, i won'tSep 13 08:45
lonerhence, kernel-2.4/2.6 and some legacy x86Sep 13 08:45
lonerfor the tcc-toolchain profileSep 13 08:45
loneranother idea is, given the situation surround git, to grab some legacy source-base from year 2000 some time (some debian apt-source boundles whatever), and see what is available with thisSep 13 08:46
lonerand, i could skip the idea of aarch32 support with tcc-toolchain entirely, could be assembly support for x86 with tcc-toolchain is less troublesomeSep 13 08:47
lonerbesides, the firmware-situation with i486 opensource SoC didn't look that bad either... for the ao486 it is some bochs/seabiosSep 13 08:50
lonerand, x86 hardware for linux-2.4/2.6 won't be that expensive eitherSep 13 08:52
lonertoo, relevant hardware should be sufficiently fast, with tcc-toolchain to work 100% from sourceSep 13 08:53
lonerthis will be a non-issue once and for all thenSep 13 08:53
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loneranyway, gcc47 c-only toolchain system profile is frozen/archived, for aarch32/64/amd64... that's blocked for all eternitySep 13 09:02
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lonerany path to keep rolling forward beyond this is futile, including RISC-V, with the acceptance criteria of mineSep 13 09:03
lonerand instead of rolling-forward, let's see what a roll-back of 20years with particular components accomplishesSep 13 09:04
loner10years of struggle, bam, why not, roll-back, and blockSep 13 09:05
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lonerfor this, tcc-toolchain is crucial, because of the compile-time performance (of gcc/g++/llvm), and limited hardware resources available thenSep 13 09:06
lonerand i think, run-time performance with tcc-toolchain is sufficient, already did some initial testingSep 13 09:06
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lonergranted, for example, ssh key-exchange is considerably slower, starting mutt mailer requires 3seconds instead of <1s... who cares?Sep 13 09:07
loneri don't.Sep 13 09:07
lonerruntime-performance won't be an issue, with something at the scale of a dual-core with 2GHz and 2GiB RAM, even when compiling/bootstrapping everything 100% from sourceSep 13 09:08
lonerwith a source-based workflowSep 13 09:08
lonerwith GNU-toolchain this wouldn't be pleasentSep 13 09:08
loneri mean, tcc-toolchain compiles/bootstraps in a 1minute including various cross-compilers evenSep 13 09:08
lonera single gcc cross-compiler bootstrapping requires hour(s)Sep 13 09:09
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techrights-news"NNCP is one of those things that almost defies explanation." ☛ https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10421-dead-usb-drives-are-fine-building-a-reliable-sneakernet | Source: John GoerzenSep 13 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Dead USB Drives Are Fine: Building a Reliable Sneakernet | The ChangelogSep 13 09:38
techrights-news"Hello, it's been a long time I didn't have to take a look at monitoring servers." ☛ https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-11-exploring-monitoring-stacks.html | Source: Data SwampSep 13 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : Explaining modern server monitoring stacks for self-hostingSep 13 09:39
techrights-news"During the discussion cycle, many (if not most?) have failed to see the great potentia" ☛ https://notes.volution.ro/v1/2022/09/remarks/794866f7/ | Source: Ciprian Dorin CraciunSep 13 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-notes.volution.ro | [remark] Securing my static site server with seccomp -- Volution NotesSep 13 09:40
techrights-news"As a practical matter, I don't think we'd deploy any reused server with less than 4 GB of RAM" ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/ServerMemoryShiftingAmounts | Source: uni TorontoSep 13 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/ServerMemoryShiftingAmountsSep 13 09:40
techrights-news[Old] "POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Els" ☛ https://indieweb.org/POSSE |Sep 13 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-indieweb.org | POSSE - IndieWebSep 13 09:40
techrights-newsOpenBSD "For those unfamiliar with the process: this is not the 7.2 release" ☛ https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220912055003 | Source: UndeadlySep 13 09:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epistem.ink | Generators Of Disagreement With AI Alignment - by GeorgeSep 13 09:48
techrights-news"UCEPROTECT Level 3 blocks ASNs which you can think of as a group of IP ranges operated by an ISP." ☛ https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-02-26-moving-off-self-hosted-email.html |Sep 13 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cendyne.dev | Moving off self hosted emailSep 13 09:49
techrights-newsUML ☛ https://andydote.co.uk/2022/09/11/uml-isnt-dead/ |Sep 13 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-andydote.co.uk | The reports of UML's death are greatly exaggerated | Andy DoteSep 13 09:51
techrights-news"Nils started experimenting with Linux with dual booting since 2005" ☛ https://boilingsteam.com/introducing-nils-our-new-team-member/ | Source: Boiling SteamSep 13 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Introducing Nils, Our New Team Member - Boiling SteamSep 13 10:01
techrights-news"In a tweet Saturday"... :/ not the way to do it ☛ https://www.axios.com/2022/09/11/border-patrol-deactivates-texas-twitter | Source: AxiosSep 13 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.axios.com | Border Patrol deactivates regional Twitter account after "inappropriate" postsSep 13 10:01
techrights-news"I'll be taking 12 weeks off of work and attending Recurse Center in the Fall 2 batch" ☛ https://ntietz.com/tech-blog/going-to-recurse-center/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-SokolskySep 13 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ntietz.com | I'm taking a sabbatical and attending Recurse Center! | nicholas@webSep 13 10:02
techrights-news"College Board’s announcement to digitalize the SAT made major news headlines" ☛ https://insidesources.com/are-textbook-publishers-playing-a-role-in-cheating-trends/ |Sep 13 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Are Textbook Publishers Playing a Role in Cheating Trends? – InsideSourcesSep 13 10:02
techrights-news"Today, On Point: Protecting America's public libraries" ☛ https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2022/09/08/censorship-wars-defund-public-libraries | Source: WBUR RadioSep 13 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wbur.org | Censorship wars: Why have several communities voted to defund their public libraries? | On PointSep 13 10:03
techrights-newsSocial control media = addiction to something that HARMS you ☛ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22185-addiction-to-facebook-and-instagram-among-teenagers-is-linked-to-inequality-research.html | Source: Helsinki TimesSep 13 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22185-addiction-to-facebook-and-instagram-among-teenagers-is-linked-to-inequality-research.html )Sep 13 10:03
techrights-newsLSD ☛ https://futurism.com/neoscope/lsd-therapy-effective-anxiety-depression | Source: FuturismSep 13 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Study Finds LSD Therapy Strikingly Effective at Reducing Anxiety and DepressionSep 13 10:04
techrights-news"To do this successfully without anyone else impersonating you, a Digital Signature Algorithm (DSA) is used to authenticate you." ☛ https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-09-11-ed25519-deep-dive-addendum.html |Sep 13 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cendyne.dev | Ed25519 Deep Dive AddendumSep 13 10:05
techrights-news[Old] "Digital Signature Algorithms (DSAs) underpin modern technology enabling phone calls, emails, operating system updates" ☛ https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-03-06-ed25519-signatures.html |Sep 13 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cendyne.dev | A Deep dive into Ed25519 SignaturesSep 13 10:06
techrights-news"I have never put any money into bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies." ☛ https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2022/09/your-forgotten-blockchain-account.html | Source: BSDlySep 13 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bsdly.blogspot.com | That grumpy BSD guy: Your 'Forgotten' Blockchain Account Needing Reactivation? It's a ScamSep 13 10:06
techrights-news"At DEF CON 30 "Crypto Agility" and "Post Quantum" buzz words were repeated in several villages." ☛ https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-08-24-post-quantum-crypto-agility.html |Sep 13 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cendyne.dev | Crypto Agility and Post QuantumSep 13 10:07
techrights-newsEnvironment ☛ https://futurism.com/neoscope/young-people-cancer-health-medical | Source: FuturismSep 13 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Young People Are Getting Way More Cancer Than Old People DidSep 13 10:08
techrights-news"A lot of that needs to be built where the resource is" ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/11/opinion/biden-climate-congress-infrastructure.html | Source: New York TimesSep 13 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | All Biden Has to Do Now Is Change the Way We Live - The New York TimesSep 13 10:08
techrights-news"Sky & Telescope readers can record scientifically useful observations of BlueWalker 3." ☛ https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/as-bluewalker-satellites-join-a-brightening-sky-heres-how-you-can-help/ |Sep 13 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/as-bluewalker-satellites-join-a-brightening-sky-heres-how-you-can-help/ )Sep 13 10:09
MinceRlol @ hypePodSep 13 10:13
MinceRespecially lol @ jwzSep 13 10:13
techrights-newsSocial control media = interference companies ☛ https://text.npr.org/1121887926 | Source: NPRSep 13 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Social media firms are prepping for the midterms. Experts say it may not be enoughSep 13 10:13
techrights-news"The White House plan is a mixed bag." ☛ https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/10/big-data/#230-quagmire | Source: CoryDoctorowSep 13 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 10 Sep 2022 American healthcare did a fuckery, the White House has a plan for Big Tech big-data – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowSep 13 10:14
MinceRhe keeps punishing himself with that crap and doesn't learn from any of itSep 13 10:14
techrights-news"The changes are being initiated in the wake of the tapping of PASOK President Nikos Androulakis’ phone" ☛ https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1193070/uk-model-eyed-for-intelligence-services/ |Sep 13 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK model eyed for intelligence services | eKathimerini.comSep 13 10:14
techrights-newsAnti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. ☛ https://text.npr.org/1122379162 | Source: NPRSep 13 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as the 'Not My King' tag growsSep 13 10:15
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 10:20
techrights-news"Let’s just ban all the books." ☛ https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/sep/09/lets-just-ban-all-the-books/ |Sep 13 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/sep/09/lets-just-ban-all-the-books/ )Sep 13 10:21
techrights-newsOn unionizing ☛ https://text.npr.org/1120759940 | Source: NPRSep 13 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Meet the strippers working to unionize a Los Angeles dive barSep 13 10:21
techrights-news[Old] "Notice what’s missing: Free Software / FLOSS in the Richard Stallman sense of the word." ☛ https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10417-the-pc-internet-revolution-in-rural-america | Source: John GoerzenSep 13 10:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | The PC & Internet Revolution in Rural America | The ChangelogSep 13 10:22
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 11 Interesting Firefox Add-ons to Improve Your Browsing Experience ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/11_Interesting_Firefox_Add_ons_to_Improve_Your_Browsing_Experie.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/11_Interesting_Firefox_Add_ons_to_Improve_Your_Browsing_Experie.gmi ∎Sep 13 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 11 Interesting Firefox Add-ons to Improve Your Browsing ExperienceSep 13 10:32
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techrights-newsOn "accessibility" ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/voter-participation-literacy-accessibility | Source: Pro PublicaSep 13 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How We Analyzed Literacy and Voter Turnout — ProPublicaSep 13 10:36
techrights-news"You do not have to prove you can read or write to vote." ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/guide-to-voter-accessibility | Source: Pro PublicaSep 13 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Quick Guide to Voting Accessibility for All — ProPublicaSep 13 10:36
techrights-newsQuad9 as Internet police? ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/dns-resolver-quad9-continues-to-fight-pirate-site-blocking-demands-220913/ | Source: Torrent FreakSep 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DNS Resolver Quad9 Continues to Fight Pirate Site Blocking Demands * TorrentFreakSep 13 10:38
techrights-news"The Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment has announced the shutdown of seven domains linked to illegal streaming" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/ace-shuts-down-more-illegal-steaming-sites-these-sites-may-be-next-220912/ | Source: Torrent FreakSep 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACE Shuts Down More Illegal Steaming Sites - These Sites May Be Next * TorrentFreakSep 13 10:38
techrights-news"Ace Stream is a decentralized streaming tool with millions of users." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/p2p-streaming-tool-ace-stream-decries-unjustified-site-blocking-and-piracy-allegations-220912/ | Source: Torrent FreakSep 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-P2P Streaming Tool "Ace Stream" Decries Unjustified Site Blocking and Piracy Allegations * TorrentFreakSep 13 10:38
techrights-newsSteam Deck ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-dev-shows-more-steam-deck-prototypes/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve dev shows more Steam Deck prototypes | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:40
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Remixing Linux for blind and visually impaired users ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Remixing_Linux_for_blind_and_visually_impaired_users.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Remixing_Linux_for_blind_and_visually_impaired_users.gmi ∎Sep 13 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Remixing Linux for blind and visually impaired usersSep 13 10:57
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): CubyText is a Fast Cross-Platform Open-Source Knowledge Management App in Development ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/CubyText_is_a_Fast_Cross_Platform_Open_Source_Knowledge_Managem.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/CubyText_is_a_Fast_Cross_Platform_Open_Source_Knowledge_Managem.gmi ∎Sep 13 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — CubyText is a Fast Cross-Platform Open-Source Knowledge Management App in DevelopmentSep 13 10:57
techrights-newsRetro ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-18-run-away-and-join-the-circus/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 18: Run Away and Join the Circus | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:58
techrights-news"It's Disney Dreamlight Valley from Gameloft" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-i-like-disney-dreamlight-valley-m-works-well-on-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I hate to admit it but I like Disney Dreamlight Valley — works well on Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:58
techrights-newsLeft 4 Dead 2 ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-are-still-fixing-up-left-4-dead-2-over-10-years-after-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve are still fixing up Left 4 Dead 2, over 10 years after release | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 10:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▅▂▂▅▆▆▃▃▄▄▄▅▁▄▅▆▄▂▇▆▇▄▅▄▅▃▄▂▃▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 19.51 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▂▁██▁▂▁█▁█▁▁▁██▁▁▁▁▁█▃▁█████▁▁ avg(k/sec) 162.68▕ swarm size (avg): 153.90  ⟲Sep 13 10:59
techrights-news"Distrobox is a way to use pretty much any other Linux distribution in your terminal" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/distrobox-can-open-up-the-steam-deck-to-a-whole-new-world/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Distrobox can open up the Steam Deck to a whole new world | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
techrights-newsXenospore ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/defend-humanity-from-an-alien-organism-in-puzzle-game-xenospore/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Defend humanity from an alien organism in puzzle game Xenospore | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
techrights-newsGloriousEggroll :) ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/ge-proton-7-33-and-wine-ge-proton-7-28-are-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GE-Proton 7-33 and Wine-GE-Proton 7-28 are out now | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
techrights-newsHeroic Games Launcher ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/heroic-games-launcher-version-243-is-another-critical-bug-fix-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Heroic Games Launcher version 2.4.3 is another critical bug-fix release | GamingOnLinuxSep 13 11:04
techrights-news"The Vision Box AI integrates the latest Jetson AGX Orin 64GB model from NVIDIA which offers the following features" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/vision-box-ai-features-nvidias-64gb-agx-orin-gpu-module/ | Source: Linux GizmosSep 13 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/vision-box-ai-features-nvidias-64gb-agx-orin-gpu-module/ )Sep 13 11:04
techrights-news"As a Linux user, you are probably already familiar with crontab" ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/check-crontab-logs/ | Source: Linux HandbookSep 13 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | How to Check Crontab logs in LinuxSep 13 11:05
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR2, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1753874Sep 13 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1753874 - Replying to a tiktok comment gives an error: couldn't post commentSep 13 11:08
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1769762Sep 13 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1769762 - Override navigator.plugins and navigator.mimeTypes for TikTokSep 13 11:08
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772949Sep 13 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1772949 - Set navigator.share to undefined on YouTube iframeSep 13 11:08
DaemonFCTikTok is completely hosed in Firefox without this patch.Sep 13 11:12
DaemonFC:)Sep 13 11:12
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): ESP-Hosted helps adds WiFi connectivity to legacy Linux or MCU-based products ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/ESP_Hosted_helps_adds_WiFi_connectivity_to_legacy_Linux_or_MCU_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/ESP_Hosted_helps_adds_WiFi_connectivity_to_legacy_Linux_or_MCU_.gmi ∎Sep 13 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — ESP-Hosted helps adds WiFi connectivity to legacy Linux or MCU-based productsSep 13 11:13
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: no great lossSep 13 11:13
schestowitz[TR]don't use eitherSep 13 11:13
schestowitz[TR]firefoxSep 13 11:13
schestowitz[TR]the webSep 13 11:13
schestowitz[TR]tiktokSep 13 11:14
schestowitz[TR]tiktok is an appSep 13 11:14
schestowitz[TR]for iosSep 13 11:14
schestowitz[TR]androidSep 13 11:14
schestowitz[TR]chromeSep 13 11:14
DaemonFCThere's a "Web site" but it's made for Chrome. I wonder if they bother to make sure it works in Safari.Sep 13 11:15
DaemonFCGuessing not.Sep 13 11:15
techrights-newsThe EU's AI Act Could Have a Chilling Effect on Open Source Efforts, Experts Warn - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/11/0645257 ䷉ Source: Soylent News http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/Sep 13 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | The EU's AI Act Could Have a Chilling Effect on Open Source Efforts, Experts Warn - SoylentNewsSep 13 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Soup of Buzzwords From Brussels (the European Commission) | TechrightsSep 13 11:15
schestowitz[TR]if there was a safari, tiktok would put it on the sinner tableSep 13 11:16
schestowitz[TR]*dinnerSep 13 11:16
techrights-newsiophk: "twitter should /never/ be used by agencies in place of official channels of communication" https://www.axios.com/2022/09/11/border-patrol-deactivates-texas-twitterSep 13 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.axios.com | Border Patrol deactivates regional Twitter account after "inappropriate" postsSep 13 11:16
techrights-newsLow Esg Scores - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-09-12 | Dilbert by Scott Adams ⚓ https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-09-12Sep 13 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Low Esg Scores - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-09-12 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsSep 13 11:16
techrights-newsWiFi Hacking with Airgeddon, Kismet and Kody’s favourite hacking tools ⚓ https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/wifi-hacking-with-airgeddon,-kismet-and:a ䷉ Source: | loquacious but informativeSep 13 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | WiFi Hacking with Airgeddon, Kismet and Kody's favourite hacking toolsSep 13 11:17
techrights-newsIN RE: FACEBOOK, INC. CONSUMER PRIVACY USER PROFILE LITIGATION https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.327471/gov.uscourts.cand.327471.982.0_1.pdfSep 13 11:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 11:20
techrights-newsImpediments to self-hosting and self-determination (not outsourcing of "trust" for instance) are increasing; today we look at the case of Kristall, a highly versatile multi-protocol browser http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/kristall-tls-bug/Sep 13 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A False Sense of Privacy and Safety is Ruining Otherwise Fine Browsers (Like Kristall) | TechrightsSep 13 11:22
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 13 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android LeftoversSep 13 11:22
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Steam, Distrobox, Heroic Games Launcher, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Games_Steam_Distrobox_Heroic_Games_Launcher_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Games_Steam_Distrobox_Heroic_Games_Launcher_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 13 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Games: Steam, Distrobox, Heroic Games Launcher, and MoreSep 13 11:27
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Sep 13 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosSep 13 11:30
techrights-newsThe motherboard is defective and has NSA back doors. poor choice of processor in the year 2022 (we're not in the 90s anymore). ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/fanless-mini-pc-features-up-to-4x-2-4gbe-lan-ports-and-elkhart-lake-processor/ | Source: Linux GizmosSep 13 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/fanless-mini-pc-features-up-to-4x-2-4gbe-lan-ports-and-elkhart-lake-processor/ )Sep 13 11:31
techrights-news"In this tutorial, we will discuss how to change user password in Linux using passwd command from commandline." ☛ https://ostechnix.com/change-password-linux/ | Source: OSTechNixSep 13 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Change User Password In Linux - OSTechNixSep 13 11:33
techrights-newsAndroid/Linux Khadas Edge2 ultra thin SBC is powered by Rockchip RK3588S processor - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/13/khadas-edge2-ultra-thin-sbc-is-powered-by-rockchip-rk3588s-processor/Sep 13 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Khadas Edge2 ultra thin SBC is powered by Rockchip RK3588S processor - CNX SoftwareSep 13 11:35
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psydruid> Does Haiku run on any actual hardware.Sep 13 11:37
psydruid> Or is it one of those "Toss this in a VM and it crashes a lot." things like ReactOS?Sep 13 11:37
psydruidI had it installed on a laptop for a year and everything minus the wifi worked pretty reliably, ReactOS barely runs on any hardwareSep 13 11:37
DaemonFChttps://www.npr.org/2022/09/12/1121999705/sex-education-school-kindergartenSep 13 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Why sex education should start in kindergarten (hula hoops recommended) : NPRSep 13 11:38
DaemonFCNational Pedophile RadioSep 13 11:38
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], ^Sep 13 11:38
DaemonFCBill GatesSep 13 11:39
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schestowitz[TR]maybe they can 'normalise' this BSSep 13 11:42
schestowitz[TR]with BillBC joining inSep 13 11:42
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/young-boys-and-the-express-stop-envelope/Sep 13 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill and Melinda Gates Employee Took Photos of Young Boys at the Beach | TechrightsSep 13 11:42
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schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/ok-melinda/Sep 13 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OK, Melinda… | TechrightsSep 13 11:42
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/gates-epstein-house.jpgSep 13 11:42
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/gates-epstein.jpgSep 13 11:42
schestowitz[TR]bill zemlin: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/zemlin-go-away.gifSep 13 11:43
techrights-news"UMS streams a wide range of media formats with little or absolutely no configuration." ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/install-universal-media-server-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMintSep 13 11:44
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schestowitz[TR]ms peters wanted the sameSep 13 11:51
schestowitz[TR]to normalise pedophiliaSep 13 11:51
schestowitz[TR]but he didn't have the clout of billSep 13 11:51
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techrights-newshttp://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/Sep 13 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Does NPR, Funded by Bill Gates, Publish Such a Thing This Week? | TechrightsSep 13 11:53
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techrights-newsWhy Does NPR, Funded by Bill Gates, Publish Such a Thing This Week? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/Sep 13 11:56
schestowitz[TR]next up in NPR:Sep 13 11:56
schestowitz[TR]we should lower age of sexual consent to 14Sep 13 11:56
techrights-news"It has been a long and difficult journey to build a freedom- and privacy-respecting phone like the Librem 5" ☛ https://puri.sm/posts/thank-you-for-joining-us/ | Source: PurismSep 13 11:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Thank You For Joining Us – PurismSep 13 11:57
mixlinglower how? teenager intercourse among each other of same age isn't prohibited to my knowledgeSep 13 11:57
techrights-newsNormal people: folks who say toddlers should be told about sex are sick perverts. NPR: Bill Gates pays us. We should give a platform to those "sick perverts".Sep 13 11:58
mixlinganyhow, child abuse is distinct from pedophilia;Sep 13 11:58
mixlingquestion, why is child abuse conflated with euphemist terminology?Sep 13 11:59
techusersexual child abuse < child abuseSep 13 12:00
mixlingi consider child abuse among the worst criminal offenses there is, any variant of itSep 13 12:00
techuserdependsSep 13 12:01
mixlingit doesn't, child abuseSep 13 12:01
techuserwhat about killing a lot of humans, sometimes indirectly?Sep 13 12:01
mixlingwhat about?Sep 13 12:02
techuserit is worseSep 13 12:02
techuserI did appear at university chat. It turned out there is only one girl there. Some users started harassing her.Sep 13 12:03
techuserIf sex is about harassment, it should be removed entirelySep 13 12:03
techrights-news"SSH stands for Secure Shell and it is used widely as a means of accessing remote servers." ☛ https://vitux.com/ubuntu-ssh-key/ | Source: VituxSep 13 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Generate SSH Keys in Ubuntu - VITUXSep 13 12:04
techrights-news"I recently experienced another interesting problem in the Linux startup sequence that has a circumvention–not a solution" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/swappiness-startup-linux | Source: OpenSource.comSep 13 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I troubleshoot swappiness and startup time on Linux | Opensource.comSep 13 12:06
schestowitz[TR]techuser: that's terribleSep 13 12:06
schestowitz[TR]on what basis was this harassment?Sep 13 12:06
schestowitz[TR]or of what nature?Sep 13 12:06
techrights-news"I'll walk you through where to download Hyperledger FireFly" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/blockchain-hyperledger-firefly | Source: OpenSource.comSep 13 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source blockchain development: Get started with Hyperledger FireFly | Opensource.comSep 13 12:06
techuserthey just want to have sex with her it seemsSep 13 12:07
techuserand sometimes ask weird questionsSep 13 12:07
techuserI treat such activity as harassmentSep 13 12:07
techusersex is privacy violationSep 13 12:08
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 13 12:09
schestowitz[TR]I saw that once in a GNOME event in manchesterSep 13 12:09
schestowitz[TR]they did this to the partner of the organiserSep 13 12:09
schestowitz[TR]and to my wifeSep 13 12:09
schestowitz[TR]asking inappropriate questions Sep 13 12:09
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techrights-newsMississippi ☛ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/12/jackson_mississippi_water_crisis_flood_treatment | Source: Democracy NowSep 13 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Jackson’s Water Crisis Comes After $90M Contract with Siemens to Overhaul System “Ended Up a Disaster” | Democracy Now!Sep 13 12:14
techrights-newsSell Buckingham Palace, pay people's gas bills. 'King' Charles can reside in his car. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/12/queen_elizabeth_dead_british_colonialism_africaSep 13 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Dismantle the Commonwealth: Queen Elizabeth’s Death Prompts Reckoning with Colonial Past in Africa | Democracy Now!Sep 13 12:15
techrights-news"Master of a Drone System" ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/12/german-air-force-in-afghanistan-and-mali-drone-operator-reports-on-his-severe-trauma/ | Source: Site36Sep 13 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | German Air Force in Afghanistan and Mali: Drone operator talks on his severe trauma – Security Architectures in the EUSep 13 12:16
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 12:20
DaemonFCThe problem is that people like mjg59_ have re-defined sexual harassment to the point where the term doesn't man anything anymore.Sep 13 12:21
DaemonFCYou could tell a woman "I like your shoes." or you could be Peter Bright. Same thing, right?Sep 13 12:21
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schestowitz[TR]in their eyes, Peter Brighht did nothing wrongSep 13 12:23
schestowitz[TR]just fucking under 10sSep 13 12:23
schestowitz[TR]no comment Sep 13 12:23
schestowitz[TR]no github pettiionSep 13 12:23
schestowitz[TR]same for graveley strngling womenSep 13 12:23
schestowitz[TR]almost to deathSep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]while managing github stuffSep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]nothing wrong, right?Sep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]no pettiionSep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]not evvven a fuckin tweet!Sep 13 12:24
DaemonFC" Over the past 10 hours, Costco has sent me a total of 20 SMSes reminding me about my vaccination appointment that is still 14 hours awaySep 13 12:24
DaemonFC" - mjg59_ Sep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]it would rattle the brigvades' masteSep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]task:Sep 13 12:24
DaemonFCOne for each CDC-recommended "booster".Sep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]check if mjg59_  ever posted ANYTHING about Gulag's Andy RubinSep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]ANYTHINGSep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]checkSep 13 12:24
schestowitz[TR]andry rubin: asks inferiors to give him blow jobsSep 13 12:25
schestowitz[TR]rms: stares at peopleSep 13 12:25
DaemonFCHe doesn't shit on people who pay him.Sep 13 12:25
schestowitz[TR]guess which "jew" the twitter brigade went afterSep 13 12:25
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techrights-news"Nothing can justify the persistence of this fundamental abuse of human rights." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/50-million-people-are-trapped-modern-slavery-worldwide-report | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 50 Million People Are Trapped in Modern Slavery Worldwide: ReportSep 13 12:26
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schestowitz[TR]coin-operated 'activists'Sep 13 12:26
schestowitz[TR]"start me up, Gulag!"Sep 13 12:26
schestowitz[TR]also check what mjg59_  wrote about gatesSep 13 12:26
schestowitz[TR]from@mjg59 "gates"Sep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]from:@mjg59 "gates"Sep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]I can't be botheredSep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]see how he blasts gatesSep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]over epsteinSep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]or... NOTSep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]like I said,Sep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]coin-operated!Sep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]like SJVNSep 13 12:27
schestowitz[TR]the "coin-operated" zdnet 'journalist'Sep 13 12:27
techrights-news"fawning adulation of Queen Elizabeth in the United States" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/it-time-throw-monarchies-world-dustbin-history | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | It Is Time to Throw the Monarchies of the World Into the Dustbin of History | Chris HedgesSep 13 12:28
techrights-newsLiz Trump ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/liz-truss-a-precarious-prime-minister-for-a-precarious-country/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Liz Truss: a Precarious Prime Minister for a Precarious Country - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:28
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/Sep 13 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols’ Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | TechrightsSep 13 12:29
techrights-news"Turkey is becoming a worldwide drone power" ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/12/cooperation-with-turkey-selenskyj-awards-medal-for-combat-drones/ | Source: Site36Sep 13 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Cooperation with Turkey: Selenskyj awards medal for combat drones – Security Architectures in the EUSep 13 12:29
techrights-news"It’s a space for open culture and cultural heritage practitioners, advocates, and enthusiasts to share resources" ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/12/members-share-their-experiences-with-the-cc-open-culture-platform/ | Source: Creative CommonsSep 13 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Members Share Their Experiences with the CC Open Culture Platform - Creative CommonsSep 13 12:30
schestowitz[TR]activists like thoseSep 13 12:30
schestowitz[TR]or sjvnSep 13 12:30
schestowitz[TR]have a viginal hole at their backSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]near the spineSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]it saysSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]"PLEASE INSERT COIN"Sep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]OINSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]LFSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]MicrosoftSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]ICBMSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]insert coinSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]he will singSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]pay $150,000 salariesSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]and they will work to cancel people like RMS who don't have a salarySep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]to help distract from Bill GatesSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]and protect his Cayman Island assetsSep 13 12:31
schestowitz[TR]no shill deed goes unrewardedSep 13 12:32
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/Sep 13 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | TechrightsSep 13 12:32
techrights-news">By the early 20th century, Paris commanded control over much of West and Central Africa." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/frances-influence-in-africa-faces-strains-from-locals-and-foreign-competitors/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-France’s Influence in Africa Faces Strains From Locals and Foreign Competitors - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:32
techrights-newsThe grizzly bears ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/conservation-groups-sue-to-protect-yellowstone-grizzly-bears-from-expanded-cattle-grazing/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Conservation groups Sue to Protect Yellowstone Grizzly Bears From Expanded Cattle Grazing - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:32
schestowitz[TR]meanwhile some real activists get shit doneSep 13 12:33
schestowitz[TR]but they are tentatively painted with a target on their buttSep 13 12:33
schestowitz[TR]by the coin-operated butt-chasing shillsSep 13 12:33
schestowitz[TR]waiting for dirt to pounce on or stockpiling someSep 13 12:33
schestowitz[TR]like they did to RMSSep 13 12:33
techrights-newsBolsonaro ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/bolsonaro-follows-trumps-script/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bolsonaro Follows Trump’s Script - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:34
techrights-news"criminal justice system" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/dissent-calls-out-appeals-court-new-york-prosecutor-for-denying-a-prisoner-his-right-to-challenge-his-conviction/ | Source: TechdirtSep 13 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dissent Calls Out Appeals Court, New York Prosecutor For Denying A Prisoner His Right To Challenge His Conviction | TechdirtSep 13 12:34
techrights-news"I mean, of course. On Friday Elon Musk terminated his Twitter purchase for the third time." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/musk-tries-tries-again-with-yet-another-argument-for-how-he-can-get-out-of-buying-twitter-mudges-severance-package/ | Source: TechdirtSep 13 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Musk Tries, Tries Again With Yet Another Argument For How He Can Get Out Of Buying Twitter: Mudge’s Severance Package | TechdirtSep 13 12:36
techrights-news"The United States is already a global leader in traffic-related fatalities" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/the-extreme-weight-of-large-electric-vehicles-is-going-to-be-a-very-dangerous-problem/ | Source: TechdirtSep 13 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Extreme Weight Of Large Electric Vehicles Is Going To Be A Very Dangerous Problem | TechdirtSep 13 12:36
techrights-newsWeapons Industry ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/weapons-industry-taxpayer-scam | Source: Common Dreams; NOT just "traditional" weapons, also electronic: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Sep 13 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Weapons Industry as a Taxpayer Scam | Julia GledhillSep 13 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsSep 13 12:38
techrights-newsEhrenreich ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/how-barbara-ehrenreich-exposed-the-positive-thinking-industry/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Barbara Ehrenreich Exposed the ‘Positive Thinking’ Industry - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:39
techrights-newsStar Log 2022-09-13 01:00 AKDT (Fairbanks, AK, US) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220913-0.gmiSep 13 12:39
techrights-newsBill Gates isn't a m------er. He's not into moms.Sep 13 12:40
techrights-newsIn truly democratic societies people like these are put behind bars for life http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/Sep 13 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | TechrightsSep 13 12:41
techrights-newsRe: Sneakernets gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-13-re-sneakernets.gmi "I feel like we're not talking about the same things, though. I guess I was pretty vague about my thoughts even though I tried."Sep 13 12:42
techrights-news"On Free/Developed/Democratic etc Societies, Persecution, Criminals" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-13-re-sneakernets.gmiSep 13 12:42
techrights-newsComparing Aldous Harding to Kate Bush gemini://gemini.susa.net/harding_vs_bush.gmiSep 13 12:43
techrights-newsBig Myth ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/the-big-myth-about-inequality-it-just-happened/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Big Myth About Inequality: It Just Happened! - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:53
techrights-news"This will also be a rare-old-time for paparazzi and the court correspondents of the tabloids" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/the-queen-is-dead/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Queen Is Dead - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:53
techrights-newsEconomic Inequality ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/how-economic-inequality-drives-climate-change/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Economic Inequality Drives Climate Change - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:53
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techrights-newsSloganeering ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/sloganeering-suicide-prevention-the-r-u-ok-movement/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sloganeering Suicide Prevention: the R U OK movement - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 12:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▁▆▆▅▆▆▇▅▂▆▆▂▂▃▅▂▆▅▂▄▄▂▃▄▂▃▆▃▄▅▃▄▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 49.98 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂█▁█▁▁█▁▁▇▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 44.03▕ swarm size (avg): 174.05  ⟲Sep 13 12:59
schestowitz[TR]christine is 71 https://fossforce.com/2022/09/monday-morning-how-a-command-prompt-and-edlin-made-me-a-computer-enthusiast/Sep 13 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Monday Morning: How a Command Prompt and Edlin Made Me a Computer Enthusiast - FOSS ForceSep 13 13:01
schestowitz[TR]"I didn’t own a computer of my own until 1991, the year I turned 40"Sep 13 13:01
techrights-newsMonday Morning: How a Command Prompt and Edlin Made Me a Computer Enthusiast - FOSS Force ⚓ https://fossforce.com/2022/09/monday-morning-how-a-command-prompt-and-edlin-made-me-a-computer-enthusiast/ ䷉ Source: Unicorn MediaSep 13 13:01
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/5hClWqP.jpegSep 13 13:02
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techrights-newsRMS is non-conformist (never was); that has been weaponised by a whole bunch of losers who try to signal to evil, murderous corporations that they're conformist and willing to cross the "heretic"Sep 13 13:07
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techrights-newsCoCs are pledges of allegiance to the murderous people whose behaviour must never be questionedSep 13 13:08
techrights-newsCoCs create classes of people (the "ENFORCER/S") who are invulnerable to the Rule of Law. They ARE the law. http://techrights.org/2016/04/08/battistelli-epo-scorecard/Sep 13 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Busted Battistelli: EPO President Violating the EPO’s Code of Conduct | TechrightsSep 13 13:09
techrights-newsCode of Conduct (CoC) is a very old concept. It's an ENABLER OF CRIMES. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/Sep 13 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Raw: How and Why the EPO Code of Conduct (CoC) Came About | TechrightsSep 13 13:10
techrights-newsIt's not at all a coincidence that CoCs are most vigorously promoted by those who are salaried by the most heinous criminals in the world. They're protecting the criminals from critics. The sad thing is, most of them don't realise the extent to which they're being used. It's NOT about protecting minorities but about protecting the powerful.Sep 13 13:12
techrights-newsA society forced to condone the crimes of some -- e.g. "royals" -- is not a society based upon any concept like Rule of the Law, to say the leastSep 13 13:13
techrights-newsCode of Conduct (CoC) as proposed by criminals of the highest order in Europe. They even used the term CoC like a decade ago. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/Sep 13 13:14
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 13:20
techrights-news"Qt for Android Automotive helps developers create visually stunning user interfaces and experiences for different in-car displays – all with the same code base. Here’s how." https://www.qt.io/blog/put-your-developers-in-the-driving-seat but they need to RE-liberate Qt :/Sep 13 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Put your developers in the driving seatSep 13 13:20
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎Sep 13 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosSep 13 13:21
techrights-newsMicrosoft-controlled bloat is a risk is it controls the Linux chain https://paulmck.livejournal.com/68136.htmlSep 13 13:22
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techrights-newsVssue: an Open-source Git-based Commenting system for Vue projects ⚓ https://medevel.com/vssue/ ䷉ Source: Medevel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/vssue/Sep 13 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Vssue: an Open-source Git-based Commenting system for Vue projectsSep 13 13:22
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Picamera2 Python camera library for Raspberry Pi leverages libcamera open-source framework ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Picamera2_Python_camera_library_for_Raspberry_Pi_leverages_libc.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Picamera2_Python_camera_library_for_Raspberry_Pi_leverages_libc.gmi ∎Sep 13 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Picamera2 Python camera library for Raspberry Pi leverages libcamera open-source frameworkSep 13 13:27
techrights-newsJim Zemlin promotes virtual wallets https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-announces-intent-to-form-openwallet-foundation/ https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-openwallet-foundation-092123713.html wife's fraud: http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/Sep 13 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation Announces an Intent to Form the OpenWallet Foundation - Linux FoundationSep 13 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ca.finance.yahoo.com | Linux Foundation announces the OpenWallet Foundation to develop interoperable digital walletsSep 13 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlin’s Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | TechrightsSep 13 13:28
techrights-news'Linux' Foundation: enabler of scams. greenwashing, openwashing... you name it... just stick the "LINUX" label on it.. for a FEESep 13 13:28
techrights-newsLinuxwashing again by ICBM https://www.suse.com/c/security-sustainability-and-speed-introducing-the-ibm-linuxone-emperor-4/Sep 13 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security, Sustainability and Speed: Introducing the IBM LinuxONE Emperor 4 | SUSE CommunitiesSep 13 13:33
techrights-newsThese are proprietary, PATENTED, and VERY expensive https://venturebeat.com/data-infrastructure/ibm-upgrades-linux-mainframe-boosting-availability-and-ai-performance/ ICBM PRSep 13 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM upgrades Linux mainframe, boosting availability and AI performance | VentureBeatSep 13 13:33
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux Mint 21 Release Brings Reviewer a Welcome Reunion ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Linux_Mint_21_Release_Brings_Reviewer_a_Welcome_Reunion.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Linux_Mint_21_Release_Brings_Reviewer_a_Welcome_Reunion.gmi ∎Sep 13 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Linux Mint 21 Release Brings Reviewer a Welcome ReunionSep 13 13:34
techrights-newsIn ICBM's lexicon "transformation" means vendor lock-in https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/digital-transformation-get-buy-inSep 13 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: How to get buy-in | The Enterprisers ProjectSep 13 13:34
techrights-newsNPR is trying to normalise what many parents would deem obscene (but not the Gates family) http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/Sep 13 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Does NPR, Funded by Bill Gates, Publish Such a Thing This Week? | TechrightsSep 13 13:37
techuserimho pedophilia will be normalized, be it good or badSep 13 13:38
techuseras a part of LGBTSep 13 13:38
schestowitz[TR]is there any conenction?Sep 13 13:39
techuser"minor attracted person" as sexual orientationSep 13 13:40
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fly-Pie: A Mouse-Centric GNOME Shell Menu Launcher for Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fly_Pie_A_Mouse_Centric_GNOME_Shell_Menu_Launcher_for_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fly_Pie_A_Mouse_Centric_GNOME_Shell_Menu_Launcher_for_Linux.gmi ∎Sep 13 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Fly-Pie: A Mouse-Centric GNOME Shell Menu Launcher for LinuxSep 13 13:40
schestowitz[TR]techuser: never heard such a thing beforeSep 13 13:41
techrights-newsMitchell Baker 'forgot' to mention his TEN YEARS in Salesforce, only mentions 5 years in some firm a long time before that. Mozilla = dishonest liars. They should change the logo to a snake in a circle. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/carlos-torres-mozillas-new-clo/Sep 13 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Announcing Carlos Torres, Mozilla’s new Chief Legal OfficerSep 13 13:43
techrights-news"A strange 1797 text with literary ambitions, written in Dexter’s personal eye dialect and entirely devoid of punctuation." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/dexter-pickle/Sep 13 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Trimalchio in Newburyport: Timothy Dexter’s *A Pickle for the Knowing Ones* (1848) – The Public Domain ReviewSep 13 13:45
techrights-news[PATCH 0/5] platform/x86: dell: Add new dell-wmi-ddv driver - Armin Wolf https://lore.kernel.org/platform-driver-x86/20220912125342.7395-1-W_Armin@gmx.de/Sep 13 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 0/5] platform/x86: dell: Add new dell-wmi-ddv driver - Armin WolfSep 13 13:46
*horseface (~horseface@rwq434ydswn2i.irc) has joined #techrightsSep 13 13:48
techrights-newsClickfraud SPAMNil Bhartiya now does some spammy "episodes" (PR spam) about IaC. Yes, "IaC" (yuck). How people feel about his online activities, which are in breach of terms of service and are funded by the Zemlins. http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/ http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/Sep 13 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | TechrightsSep 13 13:50
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Sep 13 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android LeftoversSep 13 13:50
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat / IBM News and Noise (PR) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Red_Hat_IBM_News_and_Noise_PR.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Red_Hat_IBM_News_and_Noise_PR.gmi IBM shows young women in charge of mainframes http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#SexismSep 13 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Red Hat / IBM News and Noise (PR)Sep 13 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - TechrightsSep 13 13:54
starstreaktechuser, thats right wing propagandaSep 13 13:55
*horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)Sep 13 13:55
techrights-newsMozilla is even less trustworthy than the CAs it forces all Web sites to use/adopt.Sep 13 13:55
schestowitz[TR]starstreak: yeahSep 13 13:55
starstreakthe LGBTQ2+ want nothing to do with pedophilesSep 13 13:55
schestowitz[TR]from what I can gatherSep 13 13:55
schestowitz[TR]zoophilia  and pedophilia are often linked to homosexuality based on nothingSep 13 13:56
starstreakits horrible that people do thatSep 13 13:59
techrights-newsMalaysia's Venom GNU/Linux 4.0 is released https://venomlinux.org/ they need to DELETE Github (Microsoft's proprietary attack on us)Sep 13 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venomlinux.org | Venom LinuxSep 13 13:59
schestowitz[TR]it starts with,Sep 13 13:59
schestowitz[TR]"they brainwash the kids"Sep 13 13:59
schestowitz[TR]and thenSep 13 13:59
schestowitz[TR]"they want the kids"Sep 13 14:00
techrights-newsTHIS is what Linux NEEDS! | Kubuntu Focus 22.04 Impressions - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NxxYiiltRdc | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NxxYiiltRdcSep 13 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | THIS is what Linux NEEDS! | Kubuntu Focus 22.04 Impressions - InvidiousSep 13 14:00
schestowitz[TR]something something kidsSep 13 14:00
schestowitz[TR]"argument won!"Sep 13 14:00
starstreak<schestowitz[TR]> something something kids <- pretty muchSep 13 14:01
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos: Kubuntu Focus 22.04, Destination Linux, and Late Night Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Kubuntu_Focus_22_04_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_Lin.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Kubuntu_Focus_22_04_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_Lin.gmi ∎Sep 13 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos: Kubuntu Focus 22.04, Destination Linux, and Late Night LinuxSep 13 14:02
schestowitz[TR]that also creates a straw man that helps protect ACTUAL pedophilesSep 13 14:02
techrights-newsThis might creep into Linux soon: "TrenchBoot is meant to be a universal framework to enable building integrity in the launch process of systems. To relate to real world usage, it is good to have a set of use cases that explain a subset of situations where TrenchBoot is applicable and how it would work in those situations." Backed by CIA Oracle :/ https://trenchboot.org/documentation/UseCases/Sep 13 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trenchboot.org | UseCases - TrenchBootSep 13 14:09
techrights-newsThe Way Forward for K8s Security: Eliminate Standing Privileges - Container Journal ⚓ https://containerjournal.com/features/the-way-forward-for-k8s-security-eliminate-standing-privileges/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/the-way-forward-for-k8s-security-eliminate-standing-privileges/Sep 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | The Way Forward for K8s Security: Eliminate Standing Privileges - Container JournalSep 13 14:10
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Simon Boak’s SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculator ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Simon_Boak_s_SB116_is_a_TI_Programmer_inspired_DIY_calculator.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Simon_Boak_s_SB116_is_a_TI_Programmer_inspired_DIY_calculator.gmi ∎Sep 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Simon Boak’s SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculatorSep 13 14:10
techrights-newsCharmed Kubeflow 1.6: what’s new? | Ubuntu https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/08/Kubeflow_1_6.shtmlSep 13 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Kubeflow 1.6 (UPDATED)Sep 13 14:12
techrights-newsThis is a marketing lie: "96% of organizations either using or evaluating Kubernetes"... what organizations? Who gets counted? Fortune 500? And where? https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-and-komodor-continuous-kubernetes-reliability/Sep 13 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Rancher and Komodor - Continuous Kubernetes Reliability | SUSE CommunitiesSep 13 14:15
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (UPDATED): Kubeflow 1.6 (UPDATED) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/08/Kubeflow_1_6.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/08/Kubeflow_1_6.gmi ∎Sep 13 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Kubeflow 1.6 (UPDATED)Sep 13 14:15
techrights-news"They want the ISP to take down misbehaving / spamming actors on their network. One could theoretically pay them to remove an ASN block for.. $485. But once a single IP address spams again, they'll add it back to their block list and keep the money." https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-02-26-moving-off-self-hosted-email.htmlSep 13 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cendyne.dev | Moving off self hosted emailSep 13 14:18
techrights-news"The money was laundered through the Tornado Cash mixer." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/fbi-seizes-stolen-cryptocurrencies.htmlSep 13 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FBI Seizes Stolen Cryptocurrencies - Schneier on SecuritySep 13 14:19
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Peazip: A Modern File Manager and Archive Tool for Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Peazip_A_Modern_File_Manager_and_Archive_Tool_for_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Peazip_A_Modern_File_Manager_and_Archive_Tool_for_Linux.gmi ∎Sep 13 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Peazip: A Modern File Manager and Archive Tool for LinuxSep 13 14:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 14:20
techrights-newsGitnet héberge vos pages statiques Gitnet héberge vos pages statiquesSep 13 14:20
techrights-news"The game involves stepping on a dancing stage with up, down, left and right panels similar to DanceDance Revolution, but it also features a center panel, bringing the total number of inputs per side to five." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202209/20220913-stepmaniax.gmiSep 13 14:21
techrights-news"Sooooooo… this was something that happened." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/court-dumps-trump-lawsuit-claiming-hillary-clinton-rigged-the-2016-election-he-actually-won/ | Source: TechdirtSep 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Dumps Trump Lawsuit Claiming Hillary Clinton Rigged The 2016 Election He Actually Won | TechdirtSep 13 14:24
techrights-news"Hany Farid is a computer science professor at Berkeley. Here he is insisting that his students should all delete Facebook and YouTube" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/fearmongering-cs-professor-insists-that-californias-design-code-is-nothing-to-worry-about-hes-wrong/ | Source: TechdirtSep 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fearmongering CS Professor Insists That California’s Design Code Is Nothing To Worry About. He’s Wrong | TechdirtSep 13 14:24
techrights-news"To be clear, the shift from traditional cable television to streaming TV has been a very good thing." No, not quite. DRM and "you own nothing" is NOT progress. Cannot even make COPIES (no VCR) ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/youre-living-in-the-true-golden-age-of-television-enjoy-it-because-its-about-to-end/ | Source: TechdirtSep 13 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You’re Living In The True Golden Age Of Television. Enjoy It, Because It’s About To End. | TechdirtSep 13 14:25
MinceRhttps://i.ibb.co/crymYRq/IMG-20220913-040447-009.jpgSep 13 14:26
techrights-newsSocial control media is toxic crap. We should collectively abandon it to solve this issue. ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/eff-asks-ninth-circuit-to-toss-two-stupid-lawsuits-claiming-federal-government-is-moderating-social-media-users/ | Source: TechdirtSep 13 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFF Asks Ninth Circuit To Toss Two Stupid Lawsuits Claiming Federal Government Is Moderating Social Media Users | TechdirtSep 13 14:28
XRevan86MinceR: "Ye didn't but the remote e-voting system did"Sep 13 14:29
techrights-news"'King' Charles III has had an unusually protracted apprenticeship." ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/king-charles-monarchy-adaptable/ | Source: The NationSep 13 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | God Save Us From the King | The NationSep 13 14:30
techrights-newsDNC takes bribes too. The Bill Gates-bribed publishers want you to think it's a "right-wing" things and ignore the vastly bigger corruption by Gates ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/dnc-debate-ban-dark-money/ | Source: The NationSep 13 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The DNC Moves to Block Debate on Dark Money, but We Won’t Quit | The NationSep 13 14:31
techrights-news"major chunk of federal student debt" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/canceling-all-student-debt-would-cost-about-much-pentagons-f-35-boondoggle | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Canceling All Student Debt Would Cost About as Much as The Pentagon's F-35 Boondoggle | Ashik SiddiqueSep 13 14:33
techrights-news"Many workers remain unsatisfied with the compromise proposed last month by President Joe Biden's appointed arbitrators" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/workers-are-angry-looming-us-railroad-strike-puts-pressure-biden | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Workers Are Angry': Looming US Railroad Strike Puts Pressure on BidenSep 13 14:33
techrights-news"Astonishingly, citizen leaders for years have been marginalized to their and the Democratic politicians’ disadvantage." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/democrats-to-win-in-november-listen-to-the-messages-of-citizen-groups/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Democrats: To Win in November Listen to the Messages of Citizen Groups - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 14:34
techrights-newsUK: from "eat or heat" to "FUNERAL AND CORONATION"Sep 13 14:36
techrights-newsMore inflation, except for the rich, who exploited that for more land grab ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/inflation-eases-its-time-fed-pause-rate-hikes | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | As Inflation Eases, It's Time for Fed to Pause on Rate Hikes | Joseph StiglitzSep 13 14:42
techrights-news"Union-busting is disgusting" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/disgusting-starbucks-help-its-workers-student-debt-unless-theyre-union | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Disgusting': Starbucks to Help Its Workers With Student Debt—Unless They're in a UnionSep 13 14:42
techrights-news"If the Legislature were to be successful in Moore v. Harper, it could threaten the state court's ability to provide this crucial check on the legislative branch." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/experts-warn-supreme-court-supporting-dangerous-gop-legal-theory-could-destroy-us | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Experts Warn Supreme Court Supporting 'Dangerous' GOP Legal Theory Could Destroy US DemocracySep 13 14:43
techrights-newsTechnoMetrica Institute of Policy and Politics (TIPP) ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/young-americans-approval-biden-soars-after-he-announces-student-debt-cancellation | Source: Common DreamsSep 13 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Young Americans' Approval of Biden Soars After He Announces Student Debt CancellationSep 13 14:44
techrights-newsFSB ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/fsb-stages-murder-of-two-russian-occupation-officials | Source: MeduzaSep 13 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLESep 13 14:44
techrights-news"Nearly two dozen municipal deputies in Moscow and St. Petersburg have signed a petition demanding Vladimir Putin’s resignation" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/municipal-deputies-in-moscow-and-st-petersburg-demand-putin-s-resignation | Source: MeduzaSep 13 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLESep 13 14:45
techrights-news"police are checking one of Ksenia Sobchak's channels for a violation of the law" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/ksenia-sobchak-allegedly-being-checked-for-violation-of-gay-propaganda-law | Source: MeduzaSep 13 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLESep 13 14:45
techrights-newsFreedom of Information, Hungary under Orban's fascism/fideath ☛ https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/12/hungarian-figure-skater-vivien-papp-to-compete-for-another-country-as-too-many-russian-skaters-are-added-to-hungarys-team | Source: Telex (Hungary)Sep 13 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Hungarian figure skater Vivien Papp to compete for another country – as too many Russian skaters added to Hungary’s teamSep 13 14:46
techrights-news"We publish regular reports about what we have been able to do thanks to our readers’ support." ☛ https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/12/how-strong-is-telex-what-have-we-achieved-so-far | Source: Telex (Hungary)Sep 13 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: How strong is Telex? What have we achieved so far?Sep 13 14:47
techrights-newsThe crime is the WAR, not CONDEMNING the war ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/multiple-russian-voters-charged-with-discrediting-the-army-after-writing-anti-war-slogans-on-ballots | Source: MeduzaSep 13 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLESep 13 14:48
techrights-news"The European Astro Pi Challenge is back for another year" ☛ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/the-european-astro-pi-challenge-is-back-for-2022-23/ | Source: Raspberry PiSep 13 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | The European Astro Pi Challenge is back for 2022/23 - Raspberry PiSep 13 14:54
techrights-newsTexas ☛ https://thedissenter.org/us-labor-department-texas-newspaper-fire-worker/ | Source: The DissenterSep 13 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissenter.org | Reporter Allegedly Fired For Complaining About BugsSep 13 14:55
techrights-news"Contractors Cash in as Congress Adds Billions to the Pentagon Budget." ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/spending-unlimited/ | Source: Scheerpost http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Sep 13 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spending Unlimited – scheerpost.comSep 13 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsSep 13 14:56
techrights-news"Economist Dr. Richard Wolff joins Lowkey where he exposes ways economic policy can be a code term used by the political establishment for class war" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/richard-wolff-sanctions-against-russia-inflation-and-class-war/ | Source: ScheerpostSep 13 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Wolff: Sanctions Against Russia, Inflation and Class War – scheerpost.comSep 13 14:56
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▅▆▃▆▇▇▃▆▆▆▁▁▁▅▅▁▂▄▃▄▇▅▄▁▂▃▂▂▆▅▅▁▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.13 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▄▃▁▂▁▂███▂▁▁▁███▁▁▁▇▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 68.40▕ swarm size (avg): 164.58  ⟲Sep 13 14:59
techrights-news"Betsy Gomez is coordinator for the Banned Books Week Coalition." ☛ https://www.projectcensored.org/banned-books-week-2022/ | Source: Project CensoredSep 13 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/banned-books-week-2022/ )Sep 13 15:02
techrights-newsLong besieged by Famous Criminal Bill Gates ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/seattle-teachers-strike-for-smaller-classes-higher-pay-and-special-ed-support/ | Source: TruthOutSep 13 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Seattle Teachers Strike for Smaller Classes, Higher Pay and Special Ed SupportSep 13 15:03
techrights-newsSCOTUS history ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/the-supreme-court-wont-save-us-it-was-founded-to-defend-white-supremacy/ | Source: TruthOutSep 13 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | The Supreme Court Won’t Save Us -- It Was Founded to Defend White SupremacySep 13 15:04
techrights-newsOregon ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/under-oregon-skies/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Under Oregon Skies - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 15:05
techrights-newsJackson’s privatisation begets health crisis ☛ https://truthout.org/video/corporate-involvement-in-jacksons-infrastructure-set-stage-for-its-water-crisis/ | Source: TruthOutSep 13 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Corporate Involvement in Jackson's Infrastructure Set Stage for Its Water CrisisSep 13 15:05
techrights-newsThe nurses want to do their job, not be corporate shills ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/15000-minnesota-nurses-wage-largest-private-sector-nurses-strike-in-us-history/ | Source: TruthOutSep 13 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | 15,000 Minnesota Nurses Wage Largest Private Sector Nurses’ Strike in US HistorySep 13 15:06
techrights-newsChris Hedges: Monarchs Belong in the Dustbin of History ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/chris-hedges-monarchs-belong-in-the-dustbin-of-history/ | Source: ScheerpostSep 13 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chris Hedges: Monarchs Belong in the Dustbin of History – scheerpost.comSep 13 15:08
techrights-newsApple pandering to idiots and EFF pandering to Apple in "Bay Area"; EFF become a hipsters' cargo cult (ALL these devices spy a lot, but that does not bother EFF) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/effs-cover-your-tracks-will-detect-your-use-ios-16s-lockdown-mode | Source: EFFSep 13 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF’s “Cover Your Tracks” Will Detect Your Use of iOS 16’s Lockdown Mode | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 13 15:09
techrights-newsCNC ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/testing-an-inexpensive-cnc-spindle/ | Source: HackadaySep 13 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Testing An Inexpensive CNC Spindle | HackadaySep 13 15:11
techrights-news"Audiophiles will go to such extents to optimize the quality of their audio chain that they sometimes defy parody." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/equalize-your-listening-with-hifiscan/ | Source: HackadaySep 13 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Equalize Your Listening With HiFiScan | HackadaySep 13 15:12
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/254981Sep 13 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | AFU counteroffensive update: 6,000 km² of liberated territories, blackouts in Kharkiv, losses of elite Russian forcesSep 13 15:12
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/12/armenian-mod-reports-azerbaijani-shelling-of-goris-and-jermuk-baku-claims-responding-to-sabotage-news "Armenian MoD reports Azerbaijani shelling of Goris and Jermuk, Baku claims 'responding to sabotage"Sep 13 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаSep 13 15:12
techrights-newsMississippi Privatisation/Privateering ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/mark-fiore-exceptions-to-american-exceptionalism/ | Source: ScheerpostSep 13 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mark Fiore: Exceptions to American Exceptionalism – scheerpost.comSep 13 15:12
schestowitz[TR]what makes them "elite"?Sep 13 15:12
schestowitz[TR]better uniform?Sep 13 15:13
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/13/ukraines-armed-forces-claim-to-have-shot-down-russia-purchased-iranian-drone-shahed-136-for-the-first-time-news "Ukraine’s Armed Forces claim to have shot down Russia-purchased Iranian drone Shahed-136 for the first time"Sep 13 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаSep 13 15:13
schestowitz[TR]Russian TV: it didn't happenSep 13 15:13
schestowitz[TR]it was a NATO machine gun that took down the pla... droneSep 13 15:14
schestowitz[TR]loner: "according to Russian media.."Sep 13 15:14
techrights-newsArduino Nano ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/arduino-nano-powers-reverse-polish-notation-calculator/ | Source: HackadaySep 13 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arduino Nano Powers Reverse Polish Notation Calculator | HackadaySep 13 15:14
XRevan86schestowitz: Losses of NATO elite forcesSep 13 15:15
techrights-news"Git is a wonderful tool that can multiply your project’s impact, or make your project easier to manage by an order of magnitude." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/13/with-a-little-heat-printed-parts-handle-vacuum-duty/ | Source: HackadaySep 13 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-With A Little Heat, Printed Parts Handle Vacuum Duty | HackadaySep 13 15:15
XRevan86schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Guards_Tank_ArmySep 13 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 1st Guards Tank Army - WikipediaSep 13 15:15
XRevan86It's wrecked.Sep 13 15:16
schestowitz[TR]many mamas will crySep 13 15:17
schestowitz[TR]putin won't step downSep 13 15:17
schestowitz[TR]<techrights-news> Putin's ego fell off ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/13/heavy-losses-for-ukraine-the-feats-of-russian-soldiers-and-fake-news-from-kyiv | Source: MeduzaSep 13 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLESep 13 15:18
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/255001Sep 13 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Istories: Moscow region teachers asked for donations to buy “underpants and socks” for Russian soldiersSep 13 15:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 15:20
techrights-newsThe Big Myth About Inequality ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/the-big-myth-about-inequality-it-just-happened/ | Source: ScheerpostSep 13 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Big Myth About Inequality: It Just Happened! – scheerpost.comSep 13 15:22
techrights-newsGit ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/git-intro-for-hardware-hackers/ | Source: HackadaySep 13 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Git Intro For Hardware Hackers | HackadaySep 13 15:24
schestowitz[TR]XRevan86: sounds like The OnionSep 13 15:24
schestowitz[TR]when they have their socks blown offSep 13 15:24
techrights-newsICBM, the OTHER dinosaur that lives on by grifting (taking from taxpayers) ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/the-hunt-for-a-rare-version-of-ibms-os-2/ | Source: HackadaySep 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Hunt For A Rare Version Of IBM’s OS/2 | HackadaySep 13 15:25
techrights-newsLabor Activists ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/labor-activists-senate-candidates-should-support-pro-act-or-get-out-of-congress/ | Source: TruthOutSep 13 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Labor Activists: Senate Candidates Should Support PRO Act or Get Out of CongressSep 13 15:26
techrights-news"Even if you’re just making a brief hop over the Kármán line to gain a few minutes of weightlessness, getting to space is hard." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/blue-origin-loses-rocket-gains-abort-system-test/ | Source: HackadaySep 13 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blue Origin Loses Rocket, Gains Abort System Test | HackadaySep 13 15:27
techrights-news"Additional research demonstrates that pleasant music can reduce activity in the brain’s amygdala" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/stick-to-your-guns-no-stick-to-your-songs/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 13 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stick to Your Guns? No, Stick to Your Songs - CounterPunch.orgSep 13 15:27
techrights-news"We’ll start off with a few minutes talking about CC and some current topics and then open the floor for anything you’d like to chat about" ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/12/open-office-hours-with-ccs-legal-team/ | Source: Creative CommonsSep 13 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Open Office Hours with CC's Legal Team - Creative CommonsSep 13 15:28
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 13 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming LeftoversSep 13 15:38
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security and Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_and_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_and_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 13 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Security and LeftoversSep 13 15:42
techrights-newsLinks 13/09/2022: LinuxOne Emperor 4 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/linuxone-emperor-4/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/13/linuxone-emperor-4/Sep 13 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/09/2022: LinuxOne Emperor 4 | TechrightsSep 13 15:45
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techrights-newsBDIRSTU Wordo: TABOR gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-13.gmiSep 13 15:52
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techrights-newsThe founders of EFF care about the MISSION of EFF. The people currently in charge, however, seem to care only about money they can raise by milking to brand. Also compare Torvalds to Zemlin.Sep 13 16:05
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/13/crimean-restaurant-shut-down-for-review-after-famous-ukrainian-song-was-played-at-wedding-news "Crimean restaurant shut down for review after famous Ukrainian song was played at wedding"Sep 13 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаSep 13 16:12
XRevan86https://independent.co.uk/news/b2166358.htmlSep 13 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | President: Kazakhstan's capital will again be called Astana | The IndependentSep 13 16:13
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 16:20
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techrights-newsSteam Deck’s Huge Booth at the Tokyo Games Show 2022: First Look and Line-Up Announced - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/steam-decks-booth-at-the-tgs2022-first-look-and-line-up-announced/ ䷉ Source: Boiling Steam | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/steam-decks-booth-at-the-tgs2022-first-look-and-line-up-announced/Sep 13 16:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Steam Deck's Huge Booth at the Tokyo Games Show 2022: First Look and Line-Up Announced - Boiling SteamSep 13 16:57
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XRevan86https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569712907604082688Sep 13 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "As the Kremlin claims not to be considering nationwide mobilization, multiple experts and pundits on state TV admit that it is needed, but would be next to impossible to implement. Here is one example:"|nitter.itSep 13 17:01
techrights-newsNow come the shallow, preplanned and prepaid puff pieces https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/12/Facebook_Openwashing_via_the_Linux_Foundation.shtmlSep 13 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Facebook Openwashing via the Linux Foundation (UPDATED)Sep 13 17:02
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fedora Linux 37 Beta Released with GNOME 43, Official Raspberry Pi 4 Support ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fedora_Linux_37_Beta_Released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fedora_Linux_37_Beta_Released.gmi ∎Sep 13 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Fedora Linux 37 Beta Released with GNOME 43, Official Raspberry Pi 4 SupportSep 13 17:03
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> christine is 71 <- goodSep 13 17:06
highest_cubist_thrillsi wont keep my fingers crossed, the devil takes care of his ownSep 13 17:06
techrights-news"If you ever posted a question to our Support Forum, you may be familiar with a contributor named “FredMcD”. Fred was one of the most active contributors in Mozilla Support, and for many years remains one of our core contributors." https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/09/12/tribute-to-fredmcd/ http://techrights.org/wiki/MozillaSep 13 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Tribute to FredMcD – The Mozilla Support BlogSep 13 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla - TechrightsSep 13 17:08
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techrights-newsRant: Phoronix keeps linking to Microsoft GitHub for projects that are only MIRRORED there. Why not link to the ORIGINAL???Sep 13 17:10
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techrights-news...And today's stories in Phoronix have no actual substance. It's just "there was this presentation", this was this git commit. All articles combined today attracted just 10 comments. To be fair, new IS slow.Sep 13 17:12
techrights-newsDedicate your time and devote your life to Firefox users, get a tribute page... only when you die: https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/09/12/tribute-to-fredmcd/ destroy Mozilla for Gulag Inc. (Baker), deposit $15,000,000 in the bank while firing many hundreds of engineersSep 13 17:14
techrights-newsLibreOffice has become very German/Italian and OSI has become increasingly Italian. Both badmouth the FSF. This clique is not trustworthy and has resorted to collective punishment against all Russians. How do you say "Drain the swamp" in Italian?Sep 13 17:17
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techrights-newsOSI has become a PISA Microsoft. get it? http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/Sep 13 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | TechrightsSep 13 17:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 13 17:20
techrights-newsHow to Create a Calendar Server With Baikal https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-calendar-server-baikal/Sep 13 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Create a Calendar Server With Baikal - Make Tech EasierSep 13 17:22
techrights-newsxkcd: What If? 2 Flowchart ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2672/Sep 13 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: What If? 2 FlowchartSep 13 17:23
techrights-newsEnterprise Linux Security Episode 41 - Important CISO Focus Areas - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gLDQBIzkeYE | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/gLDQBIzkeYESep 13 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Enterprise Linux Security Episode 41 - Important CISO Focus Areas - InvidiousSep 13 17:29
techrights-newsTesting the CalDigit TS4 Thundebolt Dock on Linux (Quick Review) - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0GGYs8uLIJ4 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/0GGYs8uLIJ4Sep 13 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Testing the CalDigit TS4 Thundebolt Dock on Linux (Quick Review) - InvidiousSep 13 17:29
techrights-newsLinuxfx 11.2.22.04.2 overview | Fast, stable and very safe - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S_LyvChIdlA | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/S_LyvChIdlASep 13 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linuxfx 11.2.22.04.2 overview | Fast, stable and very safe - InvidiousSep 13 17:30
techrights-newsTerra Ventura | Linux Game - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n1whuVJBRCs | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/n1whuVJBRCsSep 13 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Terra Ventura | Linux Game - InvidiousSep 13 17:31
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MinceR13 152913 < XRevan86> MinceR: "Ye didn't but the remote e-voting system did"Sep 13 17:35
MinceRoften they don't even pretend that muchSep 13 17:35
techrights-newsRed Hat failing to acknowledge a lot of its staff, managers included, is fleeing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-red-hat-approaching-future-workSep 13 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How Red Hat is approaching the future of workSep 13 17:44
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geerti do get to consider it sad how many peeps rather seem to want to attack gnu than try help itSep 13 17:55
MinceR"can _anyone_ help you?"Sep 13 17:56
geertMinceR :)Sep 13 17:57
geertstill struggling with what you call failfox?Sep 13 17:57
geertsome just try to compete man, and yea, sloppy imperfect descisions are made there in the dev pathSep 13 17:58
MinceRno, i used failfox very little this yearSep 13 17:58
geertwhat would you actually consider better browser then?Sep 13 17:58
MinceRfailfox used to be the best damn web browser there isSep 13 17:58
MinceRthen they decided to toss out the old API for extensions, copy the chrome GUI and then they tried to force poetteringaudio on usersSep 13 17:59
geertdecisions* sorry i should try more to improve my english applicationSep 13 17:59
MinceRand now it's an inferior clone of chromeSep 13 17:59
MinceRas a "modern" browser, i prefer chromium, and to that i prefer braveSep 13 17:59
geertwhat about ungoogled chrome?Sep 13 17:59
MinceRfor more lightweight stuff, there's links and linkxSep 13 17:59
MinceRi don't know ungoogled chromium, i don't think my OS-es offer it very muchSep 13 18:00
geertand i think you go a bit far saying firefox would have become nothing but a clone of chromeSep 13 18:00
techrights-newsFedora 37 Beta links https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/12/Fedora_Beta_Clown_Computing_and_OpenShift.shtmlSep 13 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Fedora Beta, Clown Computing, and OpenShiftSep 13 18:00
MinceR_maybe_ openbsd's patches to chromium do something similar, i don't knowSep 13 18:00
geertits not what it was, but its wholly different than a clone of chrome i guessSep 13 18:00
MinceRno, i'm saying failfox became _worse_ than a clone of chromeSep 13 18:00
MinceRand i didn't even mention their idiotic trademark policySep 13 18:00
geertwell i kind of get to see where you coming fromSep 13 18:01
geert*sigh*Sep 13 18:01
MinceRdoes ungoogled chromium do something about gulag fucking with the API for content blockers?Sep 13 18:01
geerti cant deny quite some stuff you mentionSep 13 18:01
geertgithub might get you some insight in ungoogled chrome, not particularly uninterestingSep 13 18:01
MinceRbrave has its own native ad blocker, that can helpSep 13 18:01
geerti get to run it some while now, actually i think its better effert than manySep 13 18:01
geerti didnt even get to try brave yet, maybe its time to change thatSep 13 18:02
geertMinceR no, its more of stripped chromiumSep 13 18:02
geerteffort*Sep 13 18:03
techrights-news"We're getting prepared for the imminent release of Godot 4.0 beta 1, and to do so we're having a (last?) alpha 17 release to ensure that things work as best as we can reasonably expect before the beta phase." https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-17Sep 13 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 17Sep 13 18:03
techrights-newsTin Hearts: A Modern Day Lemmings with a Soothing Story - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/tin-hearts/ ䷉ Source: Boiling Steam | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/tin-hearts/Sep 13 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Tin Hearts: A Modern Day Lemmings with a Soothing Story - Boiling SteamSep 13 18:04
techrights-newsMass DNA Collection in the Tibet Autonomous Region from 2016–2022 - The Citizen Lab ⚓ https://citizenlab.ca/2022/09/mass-dna-collection-in-the-tibet-autonomous-region/ ䷉ Source: Citizen Lab | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//citizenlab.ca/2022/09/mass-dna-collection-in-the-tibet-autonomous-region/Sep 13 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | Mass DNA Collection in the Tibet Autonomous Region from 2016–2022 - The Citizen LabSep 13 18:06
techrights-newsADPPA vs GDPR: how does the proposed US law compare to EU privacy standards? https://www.techradar.com/features/adppa-vs-gdpr-how-does-the-proposed-us-law-compare-to-eu-privacy-standardsSep 13 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ADPPA vs GDPR: how does the proposed US law compare to EU privacy standards? | TechRadarSep 13 18:07
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starstreakfirefox is awesomeSep 13 18:18
techrights-news"understanding of how Open Source principals could or should apply" Who is the principal? At OSI it is Microsoft because OSI has no PRINCIPLES https://blog.opensource.org/episode-5-why-debian-wont-distribute-ai-models-any-time-soon/ http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/Sep 13 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.opensource.org | Episode 5: Why Debian won’t distribute AI models any time soon - Voices of Open SourceSep 13 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | TechrightsSep 13 18:19
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geertstarstreak well MinceR is not just talking shit when mentioning some development routesSep 13 18:28
geertits not a clone of chrome etc. but he get to mention some pointsSep 13 18:29
geertjust competing doesnt feel so easy to many peoples and however competing shouldnt be first priority, it seems like mozilla really doesnt wana lose 'lots of ground' so to speakSep 13 18:29
MinceRwell, their extension API is practically the same as chrome's and their UI looked a lot like chrome's not long agoSep 13 18:30
MinceRthey've mixed up the UI a bit, i'm not sure if i like itSep 13 18:30
geertthats called procrastination it seems :)Sep 13 18:30
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> firefox is awesome <- the authors are all cunts and the project is a scamSep 13 18:37
highest_cubist_thrillsits not even software anymore, its just lie-brariesSep 13 18:38
highest_cubist_thrillsthe ceo/president/mdfl is a criminalSep 13 18:38
highest_cubist_thrillsnot to mention the whole thing was a prototype for cancel cultureSep 13 18:39
highest_cubist_thrillsand part of the coupSep 13 18:39
geertwell you appear a little bit affected by grumpiness regarding firefox so to speakSep 13 18:40
geertyou dont necessarily need to refuse see all possibilities because you got to figure something about difficultiesSep 13 18:40
highest_cubist_thrillsand they lie about everythingSep 13 18:40
highest_cubist_thrills"we care about your privacy"Sep 13 18:40
highest_cubist_thrillssays the fucking nsaSep 13 18:40
MinceRwe have every reason to be grumpy about failfox and mozillaSep 13 18:41
highest_cubist_thrillsno you dont, youre fucking liarsSep 13 18:41
highest_cubist_thrills"if you work for mozilla... kill yourselves"-- bill hicksSep 13 18:41
geertyea quite some toxic things are going onSep 13 18:41
highest_cubist_thrillsit isnt a jokeSep 13 18:41
geerti didnt say you're just joking like thatSep 13 18:41
geertbut i think you kind of get to focus to the darker sides, i think its better to try see potentialSep 13 18:42
geertbut they shouldnt lie, also about the privacySep 13 18:42
starstreakBrandon Eich is a homophobeSep 13 18:42
highest_cubist_thrillsthats trueSep 13 18:42
highest_cubist_thrillshes also in a cultSep 13 18:42
highest_cubist_thrillswhich doesnt get him off the hookSep 13 18:43
geertnot everybody got much digital experience, some of em get to think its reliable at point of privacy etc. where there comes MUCH more to it to seriously secure privacySep 13 18:43
starstreakwhich is why i stopped using braveSep 13 18:43
highest_cubist_thrillsbut as homophobes go, hes probably one of the lesser onesSep 13 18:43
highest_cubist_thrillsi actually participated in the axe eich debacleSep 13 18:43
starstreakbrowsers are just malware bootloadersSep 13 18:43
highest_cubist_thrillson the axe eich sideSep 13 18:43
highest_cubist_thrillsit wasnt a proud moment and i do regret itSep 13 18:44
highest_cubist_thrillsit only paved the way for people who were much worseSep 13 18:45
highest_cubist_thrillslike there was nothing good about saddam, they took him out and replaced him with much worseSep 13 18:45
highest_cubist_thrillsits not like id vote for himSep 13 18:45
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont like torvalds-- they took him out and replaced him with gkhSep 13 18:46
highest_cubist_thrillsnot betterSep 13 18:46
MinceRand why couldn't mozilla find anyone _competent_ to replace Eich with?Sep 13 18:46
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause eich WAS competentSep 13 18:46
MinceRis it too much to ask?Sep 13 18:46
highest_cubist_thrillsas competent as anyone trying to make a web browserSep 13 18:46
highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> is it too much to ask? <- they didnt think that far / didnt careSep 13 18:46
schestowitz[TR]they lpuit shaver in chargeSep 13 18:46
highest_cubist_thrillsperhaps i should say weSep 13 18:46
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schestowitz[TR]Mozilla vice president of engineering Mike Shaver (2010) http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/Sep 13 18:47
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schestowitz[TR]chrome was quite new back thenSep 13 18:47
highest_cubist_thrillsinterim leaders dont countSep 13 18:48
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre just there to stop people from saying "they replaced him with baker"Sep 13 18:48
highest_cubist_thrillswhich is much more trueSep 13 18:48
highest_cubist_thrillsinterim leaders are a dmz / neutral zoneSep 13 18:48
highest_cubist_thrillsknauthSep 13 18:49
highest_cubist_thrillsthough in iraq they put in someone from the bush oil dynastySep 13 18:49
highest_cubist_thrillsand he went from interim to "elected" leaderSep 13 18:49
highest_cubist_thrillsso that doesnt fit this pattern, its differentSep 13 18:49
highest_cubist_thrillsbut true interim (only interim) leaders dont countSep 13 18:49
highest_cubist_thrillsalso, ive never heard of shaverSep 13 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillshow important can he beSep 13 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillsor did he put in bakerSep 13 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillsidk/cSep 13 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillsbaker is the charlatan / head of the coup nowSep 13 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillsthe one milking a non-profit like a fraudSep 13 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillsmozilla  never had a worse personSep 13 18:51
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techrights-newsAMD dumping a bunch of binary blobs on Linux. Soooooooo open. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.gitSep 13 18:52
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highest_cubist_thrillsi use a browser downstream from mozillaSep 13 18:52
highest_cubist_thrillsid still be thrilled to watch it burnSep 13 18:53
starstreakhighest_cubist_thrills, tor browserSep 13 18:53
highest_cubist_thrillsthe sooner the betterSep 13 18:53
starstreakthere is that other browser coming soonSep 13 18:56
starstreakhttps://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/Sep 13 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-awesomekling.github.io | Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project – Andreas Kling – I like computers!Sep 13 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsanother toy from microsoftSep 13 18:57
starstreakits not from microsoftSep 13 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsso many browsersSep 13 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsnone of which will give you control of your computingSep 13 18:57
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> its not from microsoft <- of course it isSep 13 18:57
starstreakoh github lolSep 13 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsthe only place to get softwareSep 13 18:58
highest_cubist_thrillshell. microsoft had less of a monopoly in the 90sSep 13 18:58
mjg59_> < techrights-news> AMD dumping a bunch of binary blobs on Linux. Soooooooo open.Sep 13 18:58
highest_cubist_thrillsin the 2000s i was replacing windows component-by-component with things microsoft didnt controlSep 13 18:58
highest_cubist_thrillsyou cant even do that nowSep 13 18:59
mjg59_And yet you use hardware that requires non-free firmware. Curious.Sep 13 18:59
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highest_cubist_thrillsmjg is like the hanuman of goalpostsSep 13 18:59
starstreakok so i might as well just run microsoft software?Sep 13 18:59
highest_cubist_thrillshe can move anythingSep 13 18:59
starstreakmicrosoft edge for linuxSep 13 18:59
highest_cubist_thrills <starstreak> ok so i might as well just run microsoft software? <- no, there are two points hereSep 13 19:00
highest_cubist_thrills1. its always better to trySep 13 19:00
highest_cubist_thrills2. worse than doing nothing is making excuses for doing whats wrongSep 13 19:00
mjg59_I'm saying that if non-free firmware is worth complaining about, why is he not complaining about all the non-free firmware he's actually using?Sep 13 19:00
highest_cubist_thrillsgranted, it is probably hopeless for the near futureSep 13 19:00
highest_cubist_thrills why is he not complaining about all the non-free firmware he's actually using <- who? Sep 13 19:00
mjg59_RoySep 13 19:01
highest_cubist_thrillsoh!Sep 13 19:01
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont know, but i have a guessSep 13 19:01
mjg59_Non-free firmware *is* bad, but just complaining about individual instances of it doesn't help describe why it's bad or what the challenges associated with it areSep 13 19:01
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean, non-free firmware is a problem worth solvingSep 13 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillsits one of the more difficult onesSep 13 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillsleah is the only one i know who is doing anything about itSep 13 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillsthe fsf has a more perfect plan but i dont think its unfair to say its failingSep 13 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillsnow leah probably knows more people, im just saying, i dont personally know of themSep 13 19:03
highest_cubist_thrillsi suppose hyperbola should also be mentionedSep 13 19:03
highest_cubist_thrillsfor completenessSep 13 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillseven if you put the non-free firmware back inSep 13 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsi think its better to start with an image/install that doesnt include it and makes it optionalSep 13 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillseveryday people arent going to fish it out like theyre picking at their foodSep 13 19:04
highest_cubist_thrills"this contains peanut oil, but if youre allergic you can just eat around it"Sep 13 19:06
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highest_cubist_thrillsroy isnt hard to explain once you understand that everything is a back justificationSep 13 19:11
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean literally everythingSep 13 19:11
MinceRapparently we're supposed to just give up and use proprietary everythingSep 13 19:11
*starstreak downloads microsoft edge for linux and powershellSep 13 19:12
highest_cubist_thrills/me likes starstreak no matter what crazy shit she doesSep 13 19:12
starstreak:3Sep 13 19:12
highest_cubist_thrillsat least you didnt sign the letterSep 13 19:13
starstreaki wouldn't really use edgeSep 13 19:13
mjg59_The FSF is fine with non-free firmware as long as it's in ROM (not flash), which means we still have the non-free firmware, it's just it's also now impossible to replace it with free firmwareSep 13 19:13
highest_cubist_thrillsThe FSF is fine with non-free firmware as long as it's in ROM (not flash), which means we still have the non-free firmware, it's just it's also now impossible to replace it with free firmware <- the fsfs position is a triumph of logic over realitySep 13 19:13
highest_cubist_thrillsi can even SORT OF justify it, but id prefer not toSep 13 19:13
mjg59_But it also means the manufacturer can't replace it, which means *nobody* can fix the bugs, so that's better?Sep 13 19:13
MinceRthe FSF is fine with a proprietary OS (systemd) as long as it's open source and the package manager doesn't help you install other proprietary softwareSep 13 19:13
MinceRthe FSF is batshit insane.Sep 13 19:13
highest_cubist_thrillsno, i mean, devils advocate, i CAN reach a poitn where i dont think the fsfs position on firmware is USELESSSep 13 19:14
mjg59_The position is consistentSep 13 19:14
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it would be better to improve on it than try to justify it, even if it can be doneSep 13 19:14
mjg59_I just don't think it benefits freedom in a meaningful waySep 13 19:14
highest_cubist_thrillsThe position is consistent <- it doesnt have to be and thats not the problemSep 13 19:14
highest_cubist_thrills I just don't think it benefits freedom in a meaningful wa <- neither do i, and thats more importantSep 13 19:14
MinceRi don't see what's consistent about thisSep 13 19:14
highest_cubist_thrillsit matters that it doesnt benefit freedom in a meaningful waySep 13 19:14
MinceRdehomag is special and their proprietary software is sacred?Sep 13 19:14
highest_cubist_thrillsif anything, the main advantage is that it IS consistent.Sep 13 19:14
highest_cubist_thrillsand thats not much of a plusSep 13 19:15
MinceRor is it the Open Source Software Foundation now?Sep 13 19:15
mjg59_There are people (other than Leah) working on reverse engineering Intel's FSP, which would remove a blob dependency on some newer Intel boardsSep 13 19:15
highest_cubist_thrillsit is definitely the osfsf nowSep 13 19:15
highest_cubist_thrillswhich means next it will be the msfsfSep 13 19:15
MinceRyaySep 13 19:15
mjg59_But even without the FSP, the CPU is running non-free code before it starts running LibrebootSep 13 19:15
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah i meanSep 13 19:15
MinceRthe microcode is also nonfreeSep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsthe position of the fsfSep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsWILL NOT (ever) get us to free hardwareSep 13 19:16
MinceRand you'll point to that in case this actually succeedsSep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsfree hardware is optional nowSep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsbut ultimately, it will be neededSep 13 19:16
mjg59_I'll point to it as an example that we're still running non-free codeSep 13 19:16
MinceRthe position of the FSF isn't even getting us to free software anymoreSep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsand you dont get there by waiting until theres a clear pathSep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsyou clear a path by starting nowSep 13 19:16
MinceRif i ran what they wanted to run, my OS would be proprietarySep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsstallman should realise thatSep 13 19:16
mjg59_Anything that reduces the amount of non-free code we run is an improvementSep 13 19:16
MinceRs/ed/ed me/Sep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its inconvenient and outside what he thinks mattersSep 13 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillseveryone is running non-free codeSep 13 19:17
highest_cubist_thrillsthe fsf has pivoted to deciding which non-free code is kosher and which is treifSep 13 19:17
highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> the FSF is batshit insane. <- also thisSep 13 19:18
highest_cubist_thrills<MinceR> the position of the FSF isn't even getting us to free software anymore <- also thisSep 13 19:18
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mjg59_I mean, part of this is that RMS hasn't kept up with the past 30 years of technology changesSep 13 19:18
highest_cubist_thrills<mjg59_> I just don't think it benefits freedom in a meaningful way <- and even thisSep 13 19:18
highest_cubist_thrills<mjg59_> I mean, part of this is that RMS hasn't kept up with the past 30 years of technology <- i dont think thats entirely trueSep 13 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillsbut the ways in which is is true mattersSep 13 19:19
MinceRdoes RMS even have a say in what the FSF does?Sep 13 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillsnot at allSep 13 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillshes president emiritusSep 13 19:19
MinceReven if he did, he'd be a single point of failureSep 13 19:19
MinceRas was Torvalds in LinuxSep 13 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillshe was a single point of failureSep 13 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillsand he failedSep 13 19:19
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highest_cubist_thrillsand thats thatSep 13 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillstorvalds had a successorSep 13 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillsmjg took care of thatSep 13 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure it wasnt mjg aloneSep 13 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its a fair statementSep 13 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont think oliva could have saved a damn thingSep 13 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillshe was the closest thing to a successor, and he isnt made of enough "stuff" to do itSep 13 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillshaving stallman as a central point of failure made sense in the early days, even a few years ago maybeSep 13 19:21
MinceRwho was Torvalds' successor?Sep 13 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillsfor something like the fsf to be sustainedSep 13 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillstso of courseSep 13 19:21
MinceRpffSep 13 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillsehSep 13 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillsthen he didnt have oneSep 13 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause gkh is a hitmanSep 13 19:21
MinceRi don't like his approach to filesystemsSep 13 19:21
MinceRyeahSep 13 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillstso is a good guySep 13 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillsgood enough to get the axe for nothingSep 13 19:22
MinceRiirc tso is to blame for the ext4 fuckupSep 13 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillswell, im no fan of that eitherSep 13 19:22
MinceRbut still much preferable to gkh and mjgSep 13 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillsbut the fuckup we have instead is a lot biggerSep 13 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean the fuckup we have now is linux has no futureSep 13 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillsits not a viable kernelSep 13 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillsits a dead kernel walkingSep 13 19:22
MinceRindeedSep 13 19:22
mjg59_tso is good at a number of small pieces of the kernelSep 13 19:23
mjg59_He's not a great big picture personSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillstso is good at a number of small pieces of the kernel <- you could say that about linuxSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillslinusSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillslinus isnt a master of the kernel anymoreSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillseven if they let himSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillsits over his headSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillsgkh isnt a master eitherSep 13 19:23
mjg59_I think he's technically more competent than Greg in some specific areas, but I think Greg has a better idea of the overall state of thingsSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillshes does what hes toldSep 13 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillsI think Greg has a better idea of the overall state of things <- they let him in on the plan, so sureSep 13 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillshe runs the kernel the way the queen ran englandSep 13 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillsat the behest of the people who run the kernelSep 13 19:24
MinceRgkh runs Linux the way orban runs hungarySep 13 19:24
MinceR(on putler's behalf)Sep 13 19:25
highest_cubist_thrillshe does what hes toldSep 13 19:25
highest_cubist_thrillsthats always going to get him points with someoneSep 13 19:25
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highest_cubist_thrillsthe fsf has no plan Sep 13 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillssingle point of failure isnt a sustainable model forever-- it has its placeSep 13 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillsthey cant decentralise either, because they have no credibility leftSep 13 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillsthere are no parties left to serve themSep 13 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillsso its simply disintegratedSep 13 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillsthats not the same as decentralisingSep 13 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillsit simply fell apartSep 13 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillsi wont blame stallman for this, because other parties are more responsibleSep 13 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it was stallmans responsbility to make it sustainableSep 13 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillseveryone else failed tooSep 13 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillsstallman made a series of bad decisionsSep 13 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillsstaring in 2011 at the latest when he stepped down as chief gnuisanceSep 13 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillswhile retaining the titleSep 13 19:28
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highest_cubist_thrillsit cant be said enough that no one stepped up when stallman stepped downSep 13 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillsthere was nothing but a series of pretenders to the throne, who pretended to care about the same thingsSep 13 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillsthats a bigger failure than the fsf itselfSep 13 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause the failure of the fsf would not matter, if the fsf itself had a successorSep 13 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillsall it had were cheap knockoffsSep 13 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillshell, the sfc is a second copySep 13 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillsits not even a first copySep 13 19:41
highest_cubist_thrillssfc is the original osfsfSep 13 19:41
highest_cubist_thrillsall the projects under its umbrella are open sourceSep 13 19:41
highest_cubist_thrillsits like the bastard lovechild of fsf and osi, having most characteristics of bothSep 13 19:42
highest_cubist_thrillseven more than osi didSep 13 19:42
highest_cubist_thrillsi think kuhn has done everything jim zemlin set out to doSep 13 19:43
highest_cubist_thrillswith the obvious exception that jim zemlin just wants bill gates to love himSep 13 19:43
highest_cubist_thrillsand kuhn just wants to be loved by stallmanSep 13 19:44
mjg59_The FSF failed to inspire leadership, but also leaned hard on the idea that leadership needed to be in the form of an individual geniusSep 13 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillsThe FSF failed to inspire leadership, but also leaned hard on the idea that leadership needed to be in the form of an individual genius <- sureSep 13 19:44
mjg59_No one person could ever replace RMS, but the FSF did nothing to ensure there was a community to take on the role insteadSep 13 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillshowever, in nearly every instance this was only brought out as a dogwhistle in favour of corporate takeoverSep 13 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillsand that cant be ignoredSep 13 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillsnot many people were willing to stand against corporate takeoverSep 13 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsand once stallman was toppled like the saddam statueSep 13 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillspulled down by thousands of intellectual liliputiansSep 13 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsactually thats not fairSep 13 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsquite a few of them are brilliantSep 13 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsi should say political, not intellectualSep 13 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsthere was nothing left standing in the way of corporationsSep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillshe was the last obstacleSep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsso it wasnt even about geniusSep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsit was about integritySep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsthe bigger failure wasSep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsno one stood up to corporations like he didSep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsyes, it was bound to failSep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsbut not exactly for the reasons people usually saySep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillshis genius falls flat in the face of several issuesSep 13 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsfree culture. free hardware. the failure of the fsf itselfSep 13 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillshe could have started a new fsfSep 13 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillsthat was never going to happenSep 13 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillshe wouldnt abandon his childSep 13 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillsbut thats the same sort of pride that got esrSep 13 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillsif stallman hadnt objectified the fsfSep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillshe could have saved it (at least more than he will)Sep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsinstead of a child, he should have seen the fsf as an exosuitSep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsif your exosuit is destroyedSep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsyou go build a new oneSep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsbut if your child is threatenedSep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsyou move heaven and earth to save it, even if its hopelessSep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsso as a father hes only humanSep 13 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsas a strategist, he has a dead childSep 13 19:49
highest_cubist_thrillsof course this is really sloppy and i dont think psychology is going to answer all our questionsSep 13 19:49
highest_cubist_thrillsbut at least the shoe fitsSep 13 19:49
highest_cubist_thrillsinstead of a child, he should have seen the fsf as an exosuit <- there are problems with this as wellSep 13 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsfor one, its extremely condescending to everyone that worked for the fsfSep 13 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsbut thats easily fixedSep 13 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsinstead of one exosuitSep 13 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsyou see it as a bunch of exosuitsSep 13 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsone for each person fighting the good fightSep 13 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsthen its not condescending at all-- it means you have an organisation of people who have the potential to become great leadersSep 13 19:52
highest_cubist_thrillsthe fsf never trained people to fightSep 13 19:52
highest_cubist_thrillsit simply handed people their papers Sep 13 19:52
highest_cubist_thrillsand people would show up and say "i can do this" Sep 13 19:52
highest_cubist_thrillsand then stallman would bless it or handwave it awaySep 13 19:52
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highest_cubist_thrillsit wasnt as bad as it sounds, more people understoodSep 13 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it made enemiesSep 13 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillsjilted loversSep 13 19:53
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highest_cubist_thrillsenough of them wrote blogs about itSep 13 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can see the tears-- theyre only humanSep 13 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillsits neither fair to blame stallman entirely for thisSep 13 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillsi meanSep 13 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillsno one has a right to be loved by a particular personSep 13 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillsthats what stalkers thinkSep 13 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillsyou have to love me!Sep 13 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillsand you can say but stallman was callousSep 13 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillswell no, hes fucking awkward as fuckSep 13 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillstheres a guy that made gkar figurines in babylon 5Sep 13 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillsgkar told him it was a horrible thing to doSep 13 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillsinstantly the guy turned to revengeSep 13 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillsthis has played out several times in the fsfSep 13 19:55
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highest_cubist_thrillsbut make no mistake, stallman made a series of bad decisionsSep 13 19:56
highest_cubist_thrillsand the fsf is no moreSep 13 19:56
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highest_cubist_thrillshe had lots of help failingSep 13 19:56
highest_cubist_thrillsso much help, you have to consider the extraordinary amount of force-- AND TIME-- that it took to bring it downSep 13 19:56
highest_cubist_thrillswhen you do the math, he did more to keep it viable than he did to destroy itSep 13 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsstill a single point of failure thoughSep 13 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean, it was going to come downSep 13 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsif nothing else, it would have crumbled the day he diedSep 13 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsall they did by lynching him was move the dateSep 13 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsthe bigger failure is none of the clones (fsfla, fsfe) are battle-worthySep 13 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsfsfla has shown mostly integrity but it might as well just hang around and get highSep 13 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsfsfe is a machiavallian nightmareSep 13 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillssfc has an infinite level of negative credibilitySep 13 19:59
highest_cubist_thrillsand i dont know about moglen, but afaict sflc is in retirement modeSep 13 19:59
highest_cubist_thrillsprobably not accurate, but if you cant tell then what difference does it makeSep 13 19:59
highest_cubist_thrillsso yeahSep 13 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsthats about it for the free software movementSep 13 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe it will be back someday, like frostySep 13 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsthere must have been some magic in that old drive platter they foundSep 13 20:00
geertegoism doesnt proof very valuable, effective to group.Sep 13 20:18
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▆▆▃▄▆▄▆▅▆▅▅▃▄▅▅▆▅▅▇▅▄▇▆▃▄▆▅▁▅▃▇▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂█▁▂▁██▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 16.36▕ swarm size (avg): 153.13  ⟲Sep 13 20:59
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DaemonFCI don't know what's more disturbing. Sep 13 21:03
DaemonFCThat there's a store calle "Buy Buy Baby" or that their gift cards say "Welcome to Parenthood".Sep 13 21:03
DaemonFCWelcome to Parenthood! Time to buy shit. This is gonna be expensive.Sep 13 21:03
starstreakHES LOSING HIS FORM! (putin): https://i.imgur.com/IiHJtLN.pngSep 13 21:04
highest_cubist_thrillsroflSep 13 21:06
highest_cubist_thrillshis surface is under attackSep 13 21:08
highest_cubist_thrillsspecial cosmetic operationSep 13 21:08
highest_cubist_thrills"i want to introduce you to our latest mitigation"Sep 13 21:09
highest_cubist_thrills"sometimes the face can be used for side channel attacks, and information can be exfiltrated from facial expressions"Sep 13 21:09
highest_cubist_thrills"thats why this mitigation is called botox"Sep 13 21:09
highest_cubist_thrills"if you have attacked a plane or boat, this mitigation will prevent facial data exfiltration"Sep 13 21:10
starstreaklolSep 13 21:19
MinceR> This is gonna be expensive.Sep 13 21:19
MinceRit is, thoughSep 13 21:19
MinceRand it's going to suck hard for the babySep 13 21:19
highest_cubist_thrillsroflSep 13 21:19
MinceRlol @ putlers' babySep 13 21:20
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highest_cubist_thrills/me falls overSep 13 21:20
starstreak:DSep 13 21:20
starstreakI love A.ISep 13 21:20
highest_cubist_thrillsto be fair, youre very easily amusedSep 13 21:21
XRevan86Reality is still better: https://youtu.be/-tj_m8vgH04Sep 13 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=-tj_m8vgH04Sep 13 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.riverside.rocks | Владимир Путин целует мальчика в живот! - InvidiousSep 13 21:22
highest_cubist_thrillsreality is just a skeleton in the closetSep 13 21:24
highest_cubist_thrillshttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=_yErA7uUl6QSep 13 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Skeleton - InvidiousSep 13 21:27
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DaemonFCWalmart accidentally added a pound of roast beef I didn't order. Does no good to say anything. THey can't take it back. I mean, they will but they'll throw it in the trash once they've handed it off to you.Sep 13 21:43
DaemonFCA pound of roast beef is now $12.20, schestowitz-TR2 Sep 13 21:43
DaemonFCThis is fucking bullshit. I guess I'd better enjoy the roast beef.Sep 13 21:43
DaemonFCIf Biden's around much longer, there won't be any.Sep 13 21:43
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▄▆▅▇▆▃▃▇▆▃▆▅▆▁▂▅▄▅▃▅▇▃▇▅▃▃▄▅▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.75 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▂▁▁▂▁▁██▁█▁▁▁▁▁▆▁▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 49.00▕ swarm size (avg): 173.56  ⟲Sep 13 22:59
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