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| matey | s/compare/compete/ | May 14 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220116121253 | May 14 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | LibreSSL update | May 14 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | january | May 14 00:00 |
| matey | ok | May 14 00:00 |
| schestowitz | https://www.mail-archive.com/announce@openbsd.org/msg00419.html | May 14 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mail-archive.com | LibreSSL 3.5.0 Released | May 14 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220318065203 | May 14 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.undeadly.org | LibreSSL 3.5.1 development branch as well as 3.4.3 (stable) and 3.3.6 released | May 14 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220301063844 | May 14 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.undeadly.org | LibreSSL 3.5.0 development branch released | May 14 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220424111345 | May 14 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | LibreSSL 3.5.2 released | May 14 00:00 | |
| matey | nothing here points to libressl dying, on the contrary | May 14 00:01 |
| matey | it seems to have "died" in 2021 but isnt dead in 2022 | May 14 00:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe only in gnu/linux distros, but I recall something | May 14 00:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | about the state of the project being dire | May 14 00:01 |
| matey | maybe only in gnu/linux distros <- this is what i think | May 14 00:02 |
| matey | gnu/linux abandoned it | May 14 00:02 |
| matey | i may even recall hearing about it | May 14 00:02 |
| matey | who knows, maybe theyll abandon c too | May 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll ask an openbsd user | May 14 00:02 |
| matey | full c++ and rust, activelow will love it | May 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | who might know | May 14 00:02 |
| matey | mincer might know | May 14 00:02 |
| activelow | matey: already happened | May 14 00:02 |
| matey | activelow: fair enough | May 14 00:02 |
| activelow | if the compilers are f****, then the entire distro is | May 14 00:03 |
| matey | i think hes exaggerating, but thats ok | May 14 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux: we tRUST Microsoft | May 14 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux: we tRUST GitHub | May 14 00:03 |
| activelow | including kernel | May 14 00:03 |
| matey | if the compilers are f****, then the entire distro is <- i can sort of sympthise with that | May 14 00:03 |
| MinceR | i don't know | May 14 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they called their OWN prohect "RUST" | May 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | take a clue ;-) | May 14 00:04 |
| matey | reminds me of kindle | May 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know how rust forms | May 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and why | May 14 00:04 |
| matey | i stopped doing business with amazon when they ANNOUNCED the kindle | May 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like when NSA uses octpus logos for its projects | May 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if to make fun of itself | May 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | or provoke us | May 14 00:04 |
| matey | well, rust (the programming language) actually forms the opposite way | May 14 00:04 |
| matey | from cutting off the oxygen to projects | May 14 00:05 |
| matey | not from oxidation | May 14 00:05 |
| matey | it smothers them in bloat and nazi-like mysticism | May 14 00:05 |
| matey | theres a link i saw in irc, about rust mysticism (rusticism) | May 14 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Congratulations to Rust for its first (but not its last) supply-chain attack this week! They join a growing club of broken-by-design package managers which publish packages uploaded by vendors directly" https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/12/Supply-chain-when-will-we-learn.html | May 14 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | When will we learn? | May 14 00:06 | |
| matey | w00t | May 14 00:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb coffee on perculator | May 14 00:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *col | May 14 00:06 |
| matey | https://github.com/mTvare6/hello-world.rs <- one of the funniest things youll ever find on github | May 14 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - mTvare6/hello-world.rs: 🚀Memory safe, blazing fast, configurable, minimal hello world written in rust(🚀) in a few lines of code with few(1092🚀) dependencies🚀 | May 14 00:09 | |
| matey | i think i found it via this channel | May 14 00:09 |
| matey | "This project is very minimal, it only requires 1092 crates" | May 14 00:09 |
| matey | blame brian kernighan, he made this possible :) | May 14 00:10 |
| matey | the father of "hello world" but here its used as (informative) satire | May 14 00:10 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▄▄▄▅▅▅▅▅▄▅▅▃▄▅▅▃▃▅▆▅▅▆▅▅▅▄▄▅▆▅▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 23.68 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 9.61▕ swarm size (avg): 542.28 ⟲ | May 14 00:10 |
| matey | To compile this project you need only one library | May 14 00:10 |
| bnchs | matey: lol | May 14 00:11 |
| bnchs | check the issues tab | May 14 00:11 |
| bnchs | tons of security vulnerabilites related to those crates | May 14 00:11 |
| matey | BAHAHA | May 14 00:11 |
| matey | Message rejected for containing invalid UTF-8 | May 14 00:11 |
| MinceR | a library full of data storage devices with libraries on them? | May 14 00:11 |
| activelow | found some more today... story surrounding bash/perl/python, where and how this creeped into... there's some interdependencies again | May 14 00:11 |
| matey | all hail unicode, god of the plaintext underworld! | May 14 00:11 |
| activelow | let's see what remains, without bash | May 14 00:12 |
| matey | 1. cairo development libraries � ��.1. libgtk development libraries 🚀.1. alsa-lib 🚀1. glfw 🚀1. freetype 🚀1. libglib 🚀1. pango 🚀1. atk 🚀1. pixbuf 🚀 1. gdk 🚀 Just 1 lib as you can see the number list along the names | May 14 00:12 |
| matey | #techrights : 05/13/22 23:11 <matey> 1. cairo development libraries � ��.1. libgtk development libraries 🚀.1. alsa-lib 🚀1. glfw 🚀1. freetype 🚀1. libglib 🚀1. pango 🚀1. atk 🚀1. pixbuf 🚀 1. gdk 🚀 Just 1 lib as you can see the number list along the names | May 14 00:12 |
| bnchs | 1. libgcm | May 14 00:12 |
| bnchs | 2. libio | May 14 00:12 |
| bnchs | 3. libsnd | May 14 00:12 |
| bnchs | all you need | May 14 00:12 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YkgfmWfJ11s | May 14 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Air - All I Need - New Video! - Invidious | May 14 00:13 | |
| matey | rust, rust hurry hurry lover run to me | May 14 00:14 |
| matey | ill compile, all compile you all through me | May 14 00:14 |
| matey | ooh what you do to me | May 14 00:14 |
| matey | /me casts keanu for the sequel | May 14 00:14 |
| matey | it makes so much more sense now that hes been in the matrix | May 14 00:14 |
| matey | im pretty sure that video was part of the franchise </conspiracytheory> | May 14 00:15 |
| matey | the oracle was disgused as paula abdul | May 14 00:15 |
| activelow | currently, /bin/ping isn't available anymore, without python/meson... imagine this | May 14 00:15 |
| matey | s/disguised/disgusted/ | May 14 00:15 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 00:15 |
| matey | :> | May 14 00:15 |
| matey | /bin/ping isn't available anymore, without python/meson... imagine this <- this is what i mean | May 14 00:16 |
| matey | i mean ive said things like that | May 14 00:16 |
| matey | how python is somewhat integral to gnu now | May 14 00:16 |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation is, in a nutshell, suits and nontechnical people exercising totalitarian control an authority over technical people, using capital as a weapon | May 14 00:16 |
| matey | (github) | May 14 00:16 |
| activelow | pythone-meson is fully wiped already, and iputils packages containing /bin/ping is easily replaced | May 14 00:16 |
| matey | but what i never claimed to have the skills for | May 14 00:17 |
| matey | is to build gnu to see if it REALLY needed python or not | May 14 00:17 |
| matey | only it gets pulled in by any effort to build afaik | May 14 00:17 |
| activelow | can't grasp the wisdom of this, to fist python/meson into the base system | May 14 00:17 |
| matey | build-time dependencies | May 14 00:17 |
| matey | i can | May 14 00:17 |
| matey | its all bullshit | May 14 00:17 |
| matey | its fucking bullshit, really | May 14 00:17 |
| matey | this is what happens when "anything goes" | May 14 00:18 |
| matey | when anything goes, everything goes | May 14 00:18 |
| matey | and everything is gone | May 14 00:18 |
| activelow | Vim, seems to do some things, with bash, insisting on it... why? | May 14 00:18 |
| activelow | nvi is removed from gentoo tree (pulled it back into overlay here), elvis got no unicode | May 14 00:18 |
| matey | freedom 0, which i would not get rid of | May 14 00:18 |
| matey | includes the freedom to nuke yourself in the foot | May 14 00:18 |
| matey | which gnu has demonstrated as beautifully as one can | May 14 00:19 |
| matey | i would not get rid of that freedom | May 14 00:19 |
| matey | but i would still advise people not to exercise it | May 14 00:19 |
| matey | just because youre free to nuke yourself in the foot doesnt actually make it a good idea | May 14 00:19 |
| icu | it makes sence to prevent drafting | May 14 00:20 |
| activelow | i _must_ remove gentoo; yet for this, i need to wipe gcc, because i do not want to maintain crosscompilers for gcc without gentoo-tooling, and gcc is what it is | May 14 00:20 |
| matey | gccpythonmesongithubibm | May 14 00:20 |
| activelow | with a fast and simple compiler/linker/ar/as ... maintainence would be much easier, and much fun to hack | May 14 00:20 |
| matey | gnu is on the verge of apple-level stupidity here | May 14 00:21 |
| activelow | matey: the fact competent and intelligent programmers funded with alot of cash wasting millions of man power... this makes it worse | May 14 00:21 |
| techrights-news | SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART... FIRE!!! IN ZA HOLL!!! What makes it "smart"? Bezos spying on your home? https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/insignia-f20-smart-fire-tv/ | May 14 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Get an Insignia 24" Class F20 Series Smart Fire TV for Under $100 - Make Tech Easier | May 14 00:22 | |
| matey | yeah, they had help | May 14 00:22 |
| matey | apple can take a brilliant os and turn it into sludge, why cant we? | May 14 00:22 |
| matey | oh wait, hold my beer | May 14 00:22 |
| activelow | since you mentioned libressl, this is another problem, because _some_ packages must be updated, and often create nasty dependency graphs | May 14 00:22 |
| matey | im not worried about libressl | May 14 00:22 |
| activelow | (reminds my of python cryptography which they tried to attack with rustification) | May 14 00:22 |
| matey | not every step to the perfect os needs to be taken at the same time | May 14 00:23 |
| matey | its not possible and might be less perfect | May 14 00:23 |
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| matey | though saying "enough is enough" is more than fair | May 14 00:23 |
| matey | what python crypto was attacked with rust? | May 14 00:23 |
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| matey | im not aware of rust being used in python, is that what python 3 brings us now? | May 14 00:24 |
| activelow | i am not joking, when saying baphometos is one of the very few "free software" distributions remaining | May 14 00:24 |
| matey | you know if they add rust to cpython | May 14 00:24 |
| matey | that makes it crpython | May 14 00:24 |
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| matey | ada is more secure than rust | May 14 00:24 |
| matey | then it can be CRAPython | May 14 00:25 |
| activelow | ideally there wouldn't be many more build time dependencies, than a sane and efficient C compiler, bash, make, and a posix compliant shell | May 14 00:25 |
| matey | /me covers his eyes and goes to the github page for cpython | May 14 00:26 |
| techrights-news | The final release of Fedora 36 should launch the distribution to the top of the "best of" charts. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33663 | May 14 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines | May 14 00:26 | |
| matey | https://github.com/python/cpython | May 14 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - python/cpython: The Python programming language | May 14 00:26 | |
| activelow | dmux desktop environment won't require much morethan this: c+bash+make, and a clean vi editor | May 14 00:26 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22051339 | May 14 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8qzcrfwg0oy81.jpg created on 2022-05-13 16:48:01.615092 | May 14 00:26 | |
| techrights-news | "The fan-made PC port of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, ‘Ship of Harkinian’ now supports 60fps, GNU/Linux and more." https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/zelda-ocarina-of-times-pc-port-now-supports-60fps-save-states-linux-and-more/ | May 14 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.videogameschronicle.com | Zelda: Ocarina of Time’s PC port now supports 60fps, save states, Linux and more | VGC | May 14 00:27 | |
| activelow | in worst case, i could live with bsd nvi editor... it can handle unicode, although it's limited, doesn't screw things up | May 14 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the microsoft media defines it differently | May 14 00:27 |
| matey | Python 65.6% = C 32.3% | C++ 0.6% | M4 0.4% | HTML 0.4% | Batchfile 0.2% | Other (cat) 0.5% | May 14 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | if crackers write something in go | May 14 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | than golang is not secure | May 14 00:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they redefined the whole thing | May 14 00:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for their FUD agenda | May 14 00:28 |
| matey | lol "batchfile" | May 14 00:28 |
| matey | MUMPS: 0.1% | May 14 00:28 |
| activelow | i wiped golang, the distfiles folder of this, how this looked like, was reason enough to do so | May 14 00:28 |
| matey | COBOL: 0.05% | May 14 00:28 |
| activelow | simply check some gentoo distfile mirror and see for yourself, the beauty of how golang distributes their drugs to kids | May 14 00:29 |
| matey | parents who use rust, have kids who use rust | May 14 00:29 |
| activelow | if i had kids, and they showed interest in computers, i would begin with some BASIC programming | May 14 00:29 |
| matey | r.a.r.e rust abuse resistance education | May 14 00:29 |
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| matey | critics say its just a retirement programme for c coders | May 14 00:30 |
| matey | if i had kids, and they showed interest in computers, i would begin with some BASIC programming <- better than javascript | May 14 00:30 |
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| matey | if crackers write something in go than golang is not secure <- hehehehe | May 14 00:31 |
| matey | secure languages dont let you write malware :) | May 14 00:31 |
| activelow | again, it's the modern compiler features which rust benefits from, not the language itself | May 14 00:32 |
| matey | who needs to delete or format anything anyway | May 14 00:32 |
| matey | when the drive is full, just buy a new one | May 14 00:32 |
| activelow | and those compiler features are available to other c++ clones alike | May 14 00:32 |
| MinceR | sounds like the only secure language is SIMPLE | May 14 00:33 |
| MinceR | (Sheer Idiot's Monopurpose Programming Language Environment) | May 14 00:33 |
| techrights-news | LOL. Akademy invites me to the event... USING a 1) MICROSOFT 2) PROPRIETARY 3) SPYING platform. Come on, folks... it's like shooting your own foot thrice. | May 14 00:33 |
| activelow | "secure language" is missing a precise definition, it's marketing | May 14 00:33 |
| activelow | openbsd implemented and integrated modern memory protection features decades ago already, linux too | May 14 00:34 |
| activelow | with C | May 14 00:34 |
| activelow | and asm | May 14 00:34 |
| mjg59_ | "Memory safe" has a clear definition and it's not one that can be achieved in C | May 14 00:34 |
| matey | yes well, youre a notorious fan of self-serving technologies with "security" in the name | May 14 00:35 |
| mjg59_ | Rust's guarantees aren't a result of compiler features, they're a result of language design | May 14 00:35 |
| activelow | mjg59_: sure, because it isn't achieved in C, it is not a language feature, it is compiler/operating-system/hardware features | May 14 00:35 |
| matey | (self-serving for the corporations that develop them) | May 14 00:35 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: No, you're simply wrong here | May 14 00:35 |
| MinceR | does "memory safe" apply to what you do inside an emulated computer? | May 14 00:35 |
| techrights-news | People who use KDE want to get AWAY from Microsoft. That's why KDE on Windows (~2006) never took off and KDE software on Linux is nothing (the Windows Store telemetry confirmed this). Stop believing Microsoft-bribed media. Microsoft does not love Linux and almost nobody uses WSL. It was a failure. The marketing budget has run out, too. | May 14 00:35 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: If the emulated computer is one that emulates things like hardware bounds checking, sure | May 14 00:36 |
| matey | "its not a feature, its a design" | May 14 00:36 |
| matey | "ohh" | May 14 00:36 |
| matey | its a design, not a bug | May 14 00:36 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Where is the hardware feature that stops me writing to byte 2049 of a 2048 byte array in C? | May 14 00:36 |
| MinceR | sounds like you get to pick at most 1 of "Turing-complete" and "memory safe" | May 14 00:36 |
| MinceR | i know which one i picked. | May 14 00:36 |
| bnchs | "memory safety in impossible in C, because... because..." | May 14 00:37 |
| bnchs | "JUST USE RUST ALREADY!!!" | May 14 00:37 |
| matey | /me cries laughing | May 14 00:37 |
| techrights-news | Bruce Schneier still getting his "info" from Conde Nast, a longtime Microsoft propaganda partner :/ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/friday-squid-blogging-squidmobile.html | May 14 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Friday Squid Blogging: Squidmobile - Schneier on Security | May 14 00:37 | |
| mjg59_ | If you have a memory-safe C derivative you no longer have C | May 14 00:37 |
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| mjg59_ | There's simply no way to avoid double frees - the compiler has no concept of what's happening there | May 14 00:38 |
| activelow | mjg59_: depends, it is not that simple; if your write() touches a memory region marked as RO|X then this will trigger some fault in the mmu, which kernel may or may not catch and enforce policies for | May 14 00:38 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Why would that region be marked RO|X? | May 14 00:38 |
| techrights-news | A buzzwords mix-n-match https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/5-things-sres-and-sysadmins-should-know-about-rosa-and-cloud-services | May 14 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 5 things SREs and Sysadmins should know about ROSA and cloud services | May 14 00:38 | |
| activelow | mjg59_: if this illegal write() touches a stack canary, then it is a compiler extension (SSP) which kicks in | May 14 00:38 |
| mjg59_ | If I've malloc()ed something smaller than a page then there's no way to mark the area immediately after it with different protection bits | May 14 00:38 |
| MinceR | if you can write an x86 emulator in Rust, then Rust is not "memory safe" | May 14 00:39 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mLPIrcMmCl8 | May 14 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Ending Scene From The Changeling - Invidious | May 14 00:39 | |
| MinceR | because you can run unsafe x86 machine code on it that does "bad" things | May 14 00:39 |
| activelow | mjg59_: and another measure is libc functions such as strlncpy which dmeand a length parameter etc. | May 14 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | rust is lots of hype and marketing | May 14 00:39 |
| matey | mincer: but they can never escape | May 14 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | even its own core people threw in the towel | May 14 00:39 |
| bnchs | saying that "memory safety is unachievable in C" is absoulutely bullshit | May 14 00:39 |
| MinceR | that wasn't a criterion | May 14 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now we hear of rust security issues every monh | May 14 00:39 |
| MinceR | also, some of the "memory unsafe" things also don't "escape" | May 14 00:39 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: If I have a 2048 byte buffer on the stack, immediately followed by another 2048 byte buffer, how do you prevent a write to the first buffer overflowing into the second? | May 14 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | putting aside the breach that is outsourcing to Microsoft/NSA | May 14 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then SILENCING their critics! | May 14 00:40 |
| MinceR | for example, you could corrupt one of your objects in memory by accessing another object improperly | May 14 00:40 |
| bnchs | mjg59_, write better code | May 14 00:40 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: How do you prevent double free()s in C? | May 14 00:40 |
| matey | mincer: if you run a browser in an emulator thats memory safe | May 14 00:40 |
| bnchs | check if object is NULL | May 14 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | Security[ n.]: protecting oneself from one's critics | May 14 00:40 |
| matey | the internet can never touch anything important to you | May 14 00:40 |
| bnchs | if you're freeing it, set the pointer to NULL | May 14 00:40 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: People have been trying that for some time and yet we still have these bugs | May 14 00:40 |
| activelow | mjg59_: how does rust do it? it's irelevant if strlncpy() or any rust-equivalent set a policy | May 14 00:40 |
| bnchs | all you said can be avoided | May 14 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | memory safe: making sure people forgot your security blunders. People's memory span is limited. | May 14 00:40 |
| matey | rust eliminates an entire class of bugs forever | May 14 00:40 |
| MinceR | you could also allocate a large array of bytes and then just do the equivalent of raw memory access and management in it, including buffer overflows | May 14 00:40 |
| activelow | and it can be done with both: C or Rust | May 14 00:41 |
| matey | yes but the buffers will overflow SAFELY | May 14 00:41 |
| matey | be sure to make all your buffer overflows look like happy little overflows | May 14 00:41 |
| activelow | mjg59_: the problem i see is another one, for example, Kernel and Hardware (intel) boast about NX bit, yet no sufficient policies are enforced for this by default | May 14 00:41 |
| MinceR | what if you store a value that decides what your program does next right after the array you overflow and overwrite it? | May 14 00:41 |
| icu | and c doesnt have garfage colector | May 14 00:41 |
| bnchs | all of your bugs can be fixed with a simple valgrind | May 14 00:41 |
| MinceR | what about the Boehm GC? | May 14 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: they don't trach that in college | May 14 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | not they teach "javascript" | May 14 00:42 |
| MinceR | what about garbage collected languages implemented in terms of C, like CHICKEN Scheme? | May 14 00:42 |
| matey | if a buffer overflow happens on the internet, and the internet is down because of clownflare, does it make a vulnerability? | May 14 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "stack" | May 14 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | (web) | May 14 00:42 |
| matey | clownflare: memory safeing your internets! | May 14 00:42 |
| activelow | mjg59_: if you want i got some patchset here, forward-ported some W^X policy enforcement for amd64 to latest kernel (since grsecurity dropped support, and some other patchset wasn't maintained anymore, i did pick them up yet have no interest in x86/amd64 anymore) | May 14 00:42 |
| bnchs | if you check the rust hello world example, you find tons of security vulnerabilites in the issues tab | May 14 00:43 |
| matey | rust is everything w^x wants to be when it grows up | May 14 00:43 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 00:43 |
| bnchs | related to shit like "regex" | May 14 00:43 |
| activelow | mjg59_: let me ask instead, why does linux kernel not enforce sufficient policies for this? | May 14 00:43 |
| MinceR | i didn't know w^x wanted to include a bunch of supply chain attacks | May 14 00:43 |
| matey | SAFE supply chain attacks! | May 14 00:43 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 00:43 |
| MinceR | not really | May 14 00:43 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: What do you mean by "sufficient policies"? | May 14 00:43 |
| matey | yes, if you create a supply chain attack in rust, it cant do anything | May 14 00:43 |
| MinceR | also, there are unsafe blocks in rust and you can do "bad" things in them | May 14 00:44 |
| MinceR | so, again, Rust isn't "memory safe" | May 14 00:44 |
| activelow | mjg59_: another question, why was it possible to enforce _full_ w^x policies on firefox 3.6.28 (javascript interpreter), and why isn't this possible anymore with any of the latest rustified javascript from moz? | May 14 00:44 |
| techrights-news | "It was a bleeding-edge operating system, which meant it shipped with all the newest software." systemd is bleeeeeeding allllwwwight https://www.zdnet.com/article/fedora-36-is-one-of-the-best-options-for-new-linux-users/ | May 14 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 36 is one of the best options for new Linux users | ZDNet | May 14 00:44 | |
| activelow | mjg59_: mprotect() | May 14 00:44 |
| matey | those bad things only happen to the hello world crates | May 14 00:44 |
| matey | dont implement hello world and youll be fine | May 14 00:44 |
| activelow | and some others | May 14 00:44 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 00:44 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: You can mprotect() code to NX | May 14 00:44 |
| techrights-news | Corporate media: every systemd bug is "Linux" hole. Linus: wait, did anyone ask me???? systemd is not my project! | May 14 00:45 |
| matey | seriously people, stop writing to stdio, its insecure | May 14 00:45 |
| MinceR | to be fair, Linux isn't his project anymore either :> | May 14 00:45 |
| bnchs | dude stop using rust regex | May 14 00:45 |
| bnchs | it's INSECURE | May 14 00:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, I/O is unsafe | May 14 00:45 |
| bnchs | stop using stdio, insecure | May 14 00:45 |
| matey | theres rust in my peanut butter | May 14 00:45 |
| matey | theres peanut butter in my rust | May 14 00:45 |
| bnchs | stop using string libraries | May 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | eww | May 14 00:45 |
| activelow | mjg59_: sure, yet kernel does _not_ enforce policies; to deny mprotect(R|W|X) | May 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: leaded rust? | May 14 00:46 |
| matey | no, super unleaded | May 14 00:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | flint experiment shows that's not suitable for eating | May 14 00:46 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Right, because otherwise you can't write a JIT | May 14 00:46 |
| matey | its only got a bit of arsenic | May 14 00:46 |
| mjg59_ | (Or you can, but with some amount of performance overhead) | May 14 00:46 |
| MinceR | Rust® with Tetanus® | May 14 00:46 |
| activelow | and concerning this minor detail, the latest rustified mozilla javascript engines are notworthy too, it is _less_ secure, _less_ memory safe than firefox 3.6.28 was (the last one i tested) | May 14 00:46 |
| matey | rust + clownflare = rusty the clown | May 14 00:46 |
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| icu | Rust is Metal aged | May 14 00:46 |
| MinceR | Rusty Trombone® | May 14 00:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: you can't say Tetanus® without.. | May 14 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | never mind | May 14 00:47 |
| MinceR | :> | May 14 00:47 |
| matey | arsehole? | May 14 00:47 |
| activelow | mjg59_: JIT does _not_ need unprotected memory down to system level | May 14 00:47 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: ? | May 14 00:47 |
| matey | rustanus | May 14 00:47 |
| icu | isnt metal apple stuff? | May 14 00:47 |
| matey | what robots get when you make them memory safe | May 14 00:47 |
| MinceR | i hope not | May 14 00:47 |
| icu | its grafics driver for osx? | May 14 00:48 |
| activelow | yet, mozilla/rust/mapple decided the wanted to, and say it is "memory safe" now... that's why all the "innovations", to apply runtime-diagnosts and forensics gibberish, injected by the compiler | May 14 00:48 |
| matey | you just need preparation-c | May 14 00:48 |
| techrights-news | Public Knowledge Applauds NTIA’s ‘Internet for All’ Roadmap To Help Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-ntias-internet-for-all-roadmap-to-help-close-digital-divide/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledge | May 14 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Applauds NTIA’s ‘Internet for All’ Roadmap To Help Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge | May 14 00:48 | |
| MinceR | even Java/Swing came with a Metal theme | May 14 00:48 |
| activelow | mjg59_: if at least w^x policies were enfoced, then i would listen | May 14 00:48 |
| techrights-news | GNU Linux Debian 11 (should also work for Ubuntu) – compiling the latest kernel straight from kernel.org : (Linux/x86 5.17.7) https://dwaves.de/2022/05/13/gnu-linux-debian-11-should-also-work-for-ubuntu-compiling-the-latest-kernel-straight-from-kernel-org-linux-x86-5-17-7/ | May 14 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://dwaves.de/2022/05/13/gnu-linux-debian-11-should-also-work-for-ubuntu-compiling-the-latest-kernel-straight-from-kernel-org-linux-x86-5-17-7/ ) | May 14 00:48 | |
| matey | memory safe: the fictional repo george orwell wrote about where the party puts all the programs written in c | May 14 00:49 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 00:49 |
| matey | "down the memory safe" | May 14 00:49 |
| techrights-news | "One of the greatest innovations of the 18th century came about in wartime and soon helped to enable the industrial revolution. And it involved a simple idea: Machines in which all the parts could be replaced with other, similar parts." https://tedium.co/2022/05/13/interchangeable-parts-right-to-repair-debate/ | May 14 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | How Anti-Right-To-Repair Companies Try to Have it Both Ways | May 14 00:49 | |
| matey | today its called the arctic fault | May 14 00:49 |
| bnchs | memory safe | May 14 00:49 |
| bnchs | today i had a memory unsafe event in my brain | May 14 00:50 |
| bnchs | apparently i tried to read something before my brain could load the data into it | May 14 00:50 |
| icu | there was protected mode in dos | May 14 00:50 |
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| activelow | last time i checked on gentoo.org website, all webbrowsers, written "memory safe" were labeled dark red, vulnerable... | May 14 00:50 |
| bnchs | and i ended up saying and shouting a bunch of bullshit | May 14 00:50 |
| matey | bnchs, thats just deja vu, it happens to everyone | May 14 00:50 |
| activelow | guess what, if i wanted to, pick up pyton2.7 again, and compile firefox 3.6.28, this one would be safe, without rust | May 14 00:51 |
| icu | DPMI | May 14 00:51 |
| techrights-news | Nvidia GPUs Are Starting To Embrace Linux More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748#comment-33664 | May 14 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines | May 14 00:51 | |
| matey | <activelow> guess what, if i wanted to, pick up pyton2.7 again, and compile firefox 3.6.28, this one would be safe, without rust <- im not sure id go that far | May 14 00:51 |
| icu | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_mode | May 14 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Protected mode - Wikipedia | May 14 00:51 | |
| MinceR | DPMI wasn't protected mode, it was an interface to gain access to protected mode from V86 mode | May 14 00:51 |
| activelow | matey: i would | May 14 00:51 |
| matey | yes, you might | May 14 00:51 |
| matey | confucious say one who goes too far is far gone | May 14 00:52 |
| activelow | as far as "memory safety" is concerned, and firefox 3.6.28 javascript didn't have webassembly, so another good to go | May 14 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | [00:50] <bnchs> today i had a memory unsafe event in my brain | May 14 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | you should just crash | May 14 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | or pass out | May 14 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | to solve the issue | May 14 00:53 |
| MinceR | Confucius say: Man who make mistake in elevator, wrong on many levels. | May 14 00:53 |
| matey | hehehe | May 14 00:53 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR, nah it just segfaulted safety | May 14 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | man who fart in lift... | May 14 00:53 |
| bnchs | with a loud "FUCK!!!!!" | May 14 00:53 |
| bnchs | safely* | May 14 00:53 |
| matey | mincer: we need memory safe elevators | May 14 00:53 |
| matey | theyre insecure | May 14 00:54 |
| MinceR | those would never move | May 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | man who chases car gets tyred | May 14 00:54 |
| MinceR | moving an elevator car is i/o | May 14 00:54 |
| MinceR | Confucius say: Man who fart in church, sit in own pew. | May 14 00:54 |
| bnchs | fat guy who chases ice cream truck | May 14 00:54 |
| bnchs | gets what | May 14 00:54 |
| matey | i/o, i/o, ram to device we go | May 14 00:54 |
| matey | i/o, i/o i/o i/o | May 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/epo-gentlemen/ | May 14 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Lukampinos | Techrights | May 14 00:55 | |
| MinceR | EIEIO error code | May 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | Confucius say | May 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: ousted as billG | May 14 00:56 |
| activelow | anyway, i must wipe the irc box soon, it is full of rubbish still | May 14 00:58 |
| activelow | ideally i can replace the irc client with suckless ii within dvtm or similar... not sure yet what's best | May 14 00:58 |
| activelow | anything which links against glib will be gone, and there is more on the hitlist of "free software" to cope with | May 14 00:58 |
| activelow | bashism sucks | May 14 00:59 |
| techrights-news | East European Free software dev diary... now in Barcelona https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/13/europe-trip-journal-entry-11-adios-amigas/ | May 14 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jabberhead.tk | Europe Trip Journal – Entry 11: Adiós Amigas – vanitasvitae's blog | May 14 00:59 | |
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| techrights-news | Apple... at the forefront.. STICKY NOTES! WOWOWOWOW. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-sticky-note-apps-for-mac/ | May 14 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 5 of the Best Sticky Note Apps for Mac - Make Tech Easier | May 14 01:00 | |
| matey | development without rust https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Frank_and_Jesse_James_shooting_Capt._John_Sheets.jpg/800px-Frank_and_Jesse_James_shooting_Capt._John_Sheets.jpg | May 14 01:01 |
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| matey | development with rust https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/babylon5/images/4/49/Minbar_01.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20080429231332 | May 14 01:01 |
| MinceR | rust makes development awfully blurry | May 14 01:02 |
| techrights-news | Apple fan to gnu/linux user: you need a MAC to get REAL WORK done. [starts scrolling down a facebook page] | May 14 01:02 |
| matey | thats because its memory safe and ad-supported | May 14 01:02 |
| matey | and jimbo wales left hand doesnt know what the right is doing | May 14 01:02 |
| matey | which is secure by design | May 14 01:02 |
| MinceR | that it is not | May 14 01:03 |
| MinceR | now, if neither of his hands were capable of doing anything at all, that would be the beginning of security | May 14 01:03 |
| matey | otherwise the right hand could be used in a side-channel attack against the left | May 14 01:03 |
| MinceR | by design, that is | May 14 01:03 |
| matey | well it depends on your threat model | May 14 01:03 |
| matey | for jimbo wales (and especially his army of pre-adolescent editors) one hand is more than enough to get you into trouble | May 14 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I'm a model" | May 14 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | "of a dinosaur?" | May 14 01:04 |
| MinceR | if your threat model is someone getting something done, the known definition of "memory safe" certainly helps against that threat | May 14 01:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | "no, I'm a threat model" | May 14 01:04 |
| matey | pfft, rust has never prevented people from getting something done | May 14 01:04 |
| MinceR | are even the rashist editors pre-adolescent? | May 14 01:04 |
| matey | its only slowed them down by an order of magnitude | May 14 01:04 |
| MinceR | that would be because rust is not "memory safe" | May 14 01:05 |
| matey | and brought projects that already worked to a hault | May 14 01:05 |
| matey | halt | May 14 01:05 |
| activelow | to answer the other question, if JIT is possible with W^X, yet it is. it is conceptually related to harvard architecture which separates code and data, correct me if i am wrong. | May 14 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | selinux 'security' | May 14 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | nag and nag | May 14 01:05 |
| matey | but PREVENTING work? no | May 14 01:05 |
| MinceR | SIMPLE is "memory safe", though | May 14 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | protect the user from wanting to do what the user wants to do | May 14 01:05 |
| matey | so is a rock | May 14 01:05 |
| MinceR | https://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~avm/humor/plang.html | May 14 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stwing.upenn.edu | Programming Languages. | May 14 01:05 | |
| activelow | another security gag, to re-think, floppy-disks (1.4MiB) got a switch, for READ-ONLY | May 14 01:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 14 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | while ignoring gaping hole in the OS of the makers of selinus | May 14 01:05 |
| MinceR | there's a Security Enhanced Linus Torvalds? | May 14 01:05 |
| matey | in the future everyone uses black monoliths for computing | May 14 01:05 |
| matey | theyre completely memory safe | May 14 01:06 |
| icu | linux SE | May 14 01:06 |
| MinceR | Second Edition? | May 14 01:06 |
| matey | rust will be oldschool by then, it will be replaced with onyx | May 14 01:06 |
| MinceR | nice | May 14 01:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: stanards edition | May 14 01:06 |
| MinceR | Satanic Edition | May 14 01:06 |
| matey | their slogan will be | May 14 01:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ubuntu SE | May 14 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | ask jono bacon | May 14 01:07 |
| MinceR | UAC approved | May 14 01:07 |
| matey | "rust is memory safe, yes-- but onyx is memory SAFER" | May 14 01:07 |
| icu | if only they had rust to builf windows 95 | May 14 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | he threaetened them | May 14 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | some community [sic] manager | May 14 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | wannabe lawyer | May 14 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://yewtu.be/268zZqs-rvI | May 14 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Can Putin accept defeat? — Russia's way out of the war. 04MAY2022 - Invidious | May 14 01:07 | |
| activelow | since i cannot easily boot the ARM systems from CD-ROM (READ ONLY), i keep the rootfs inside a squashsf with some tiny scrambler to prevent weird things | May 14 01:07 |
| MinceR | he could just commit suicide | May 14 01:07 |
| matey | to attack a machine running rust, you need more than mere tempest | May 14 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No, that's a fairly realistic look. | May 14 01:08 |
| MinceR | his role model did the same | May 14 01:08 |
| matey | you need to build a cosmic ray emitter | May 14 01:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | won't happen, MinceR | May 14 01:08 |
| activelow | if something strange happens, i pull out the SD-Card, write a hashed/signed root.squashfs onto in a minute or two, and boot | May 14 01:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: his role model risked capture by soviets | May 14 01:08 |
| activelow | baphometos got no installation procedure btw. | May 14 01:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he was past his peak anyway | May 14 01:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | wanted to quit on "a high" | May 14 01:08 |
| icu | Putin would accept defeat if they would let him win the judo gold at the olimpics | May 14 01:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | like john mccafee | May 14 01:09 |
| activelow | there isn't any "installation"... plug in sd-card, boot, ifconfig, irc, done. | May 14 01:09 |
| MinceR | i know, first NATO forces have to surround him while he's cowering in Бункер лидера | May 14 01:09 |
| MinceR | and then he can finally fellate his handgun | May 14 01:09 |
| activelow | given the memory footprint, i estimate 64MiB RAM minimum for a useful system, and i'll crunch this down further | May 14 01:10 |
| icu | 64MiB RAM should be enough | May 14 01:11 |
| MinceR | ...for everyone | May 14 01:11 |
| icu | ask bill gates | May 14 01:11 |
| activelow | a TI89 got 2MiB ROM, and 256KiB RAM, give or take a few... and was useful, although not "free software" | May 14 01:12 |
| activelow | and this is the bare minimum, i need, with any linux free software, a programming language and some vector graphics (to plot data graphs etc.) | May 14 01:13 |
| psydruid | even if 64 MiB should be enough for everyone, 2-8 GiB is huge | May 14 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | how much ram does a do-nothing android proghram allocate? | May 14 01:14 |
| matey | <MinceR> and then he can finally fellate his handgun <- hopefully he fondles the magazine (anything can be a handgun, in the right hands) | May 14 01:14 |
| psydruid | so if the system doesn't run well with that, something seems to be wrong | May 14 01:15 |
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| matey | rust is a fine example of what openbsd devs would be like if openbsd was like red hat and debian | May 14 01:16 |
| matey | monkey bukkake: its memory safe, bitch! | May 14 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, so Mandy got his passport renewed and they said to expect it in 2-3 months. | May 14 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | His friend is such an idiot that she punched in our street address and took us to the wrong county because she didn't read where it was actually taking us. | May 14 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | And then she said she does that all the time. | May 14 01:17 |
| matey | (bunny bukkake sold separately) | May 14 01:17 |
| matey | *to the tune of baby beluga | May 14 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | I thought I was going to throw up. | May 14 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | Not only did she take us an hour in the wrong direction. | May 14 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | But she can't drive worth shit and pumps the accelerator back and forth and avoids the cruise control entirely. | May 14 01:22 |
| activelow | 64MiB is only a realistic minimum of RAM required with dmux+vi, with some sixel support, it's the most powerful IDE for maths and related | May 14 01:22 |
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| DaemonFC | I set up the dehumidifier to drain into the washing machine. | May 14 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | It should offset some of my laundry water and then that all gets purged down the drain anyway when that stage is done. | May 14 01:29 |
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| MinceR | how much relative humidity do you get over there? | May 14 01:32 |
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| techrights-news | Shows: Linux Out Loud and Linux and Free Software News • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164827 | May 14 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows: Linux Out Loud and Linux and Free Software News | Tux Machines | May 14 01:34 | |
| techrights-news | LF Helps Microsoft’s Proprietary Prison, Ship of Harkinian’ Ported to GNU/Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164828 | May 14 01:34 |
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| techrights-news | Software: Firefox Extensions, Julius, and Chatwoot • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164829 | May 14 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Firefox Extensions, Julius, and Chatwoot | Tux Machines | May 14 01:34 | |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> how much relative humidity do you get over there? | May 14 01:34 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164830 | May 14 01:34 |
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| DaemonFC | I got 12.5 liters by running it for a day and dumping it out manually a couple of times. | May 14 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | But that wouldn't account for it shutting off the condenser to prevent overflowing. | May 14 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | SO it may well be able to take out more if it's not interrupted. | May 14 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's rated 50 pints per day under the DoE method and the apartment hovers around 80-90% relative humidity. | May 14 01:35 |
| MinceR | ic | May 14 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Naturally, though, it would remove more moisture at first until it gets the humidity down to a reasonable level, and then it would slow down. | May 14 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm guessing I'll get about 3-3.5 gallons out of it over the next 24 hours. | May 14 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then probably about 3 gallons over the next day. | May 14 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | And then about 2.5-2.75 gallons by the third day. | May 14 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | And probably it should level out at around 1.75-2 gallons after it has been running a few days. | May 14 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it off this morning at 10 AM with the relative humidity at 40%, and when I came back at 7 PM it was at 64%. | May 14 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | So it's pretty clear that I'd have to set this thing to run at least 15-16 hours per day to keep the humidity at an acceptable level. | May 14 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty bad in here without the thing running. | May 14 01:39 |
| techrights-news | Untitled webcomic — Sports gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/comic/sports.png | May 14 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard that the first few days are the worst though if you're emptying the unit manually. | May 14 01:40 |
| techrights-news | "Like marginalia, I don't know how to build software. Not only that, I also don't know how to live my life." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/relativism.gmi | May 14 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | After that you can usually empty it once every day or two. | May 14 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | But for the first 3-4 days you'll empty it twice or more. | May 14 01:40 |
| techrights-news | "I mean, not completely, as many of the potential underlying factors cited (e.g. "whole world would be better off without you") are absent for me." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/941 | May 14 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ideally, you'll be able to put the unit next to a sink and just run the included hose up and stick it down into the drain pipe and just let it run and forget about it. | May 14 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, we don't have enough space for that. | May 14 01:41 |
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| techrights-news | "My anxiety has waxed and waned over the last few weeks or so. But each night as I lay in bed, she who must be obeyed drifts off to sleep and the cats - after a manic 5 minutes - settle to sleep with one on my chest" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/942 | May 14 01:43 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.pcmag.com/news/windows-11-adoption-is-lower-than-windows-xp-survey-claims | May 14 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 11 Adoption Is Lower Than Windows XP, Survey Claims | PCMag | May 14 01:51 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, ^ | May 14 01:51 |
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| matey | that worked well | May 14 02:04 |
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| icu | time to install windows11 | May 14 02:27 |
| icu | i font get the point of benchmarking with top hardware? | May 14 02:32 |
| icu | in low end hasdware thats were the difrence beomes more aparent | May 14 02:32 |
| icu | crazy world | May 14 02:33 |
| icu | RTX 3070 Gaming OC | May 14 02:33 |
| icu | not even 1% is going to have that shit | May 14 02:34 |
| icu | https://www.techspot.com/article/2278-windows-11-benchmark/ | May 14 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 11 vs. Windows 10 Performance: Gaming and Applications | TechSpot | May 14 02:34 | |
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| icu | if the pc market isnt going to have hardware comptitive with smartphones its going to die a swift death | May 14 02:37 |
| icu | at least in the consumer market | May 14 02:37 |
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| icu | but let them think what they will | May 14 02:38 |
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| icu | for gaming you just get a consol so much cheaper | May 14 02:38 |
| icu | so what do they think they are aim at? | May 14 02:39 |
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| icu | they even need windows to come ip with crazy TPM2 to force people to upgrade | May 14 02:39 |
| icu | good luck with that BS | May 14 02:40 |
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| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-05-13.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-05-13.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | May 14 02:41 |
| icu | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/12/ebay-executive-guilty-boston-couple-harassment | May 14 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Ex-eBay exec pleads guilty to terrorizing couple with spiders and funeral wreaths | eBay | The Guardian | May 14 02:45 | |
| psydruid | windows itself is bs | May 14 02:49 |
| icu | windows works good enough | May 14 02:50 |
| psydruid | it does | May 14 02:50 |
| icu | you need to tame it into submission | May 14 02:51 |
| psydruid | for killing people | May 14 02:51 |
| psydruid | yes, by wiping it instantly | May 14 02:51 |
| icu | wtf? | May 14 02:51 |
| icu | i dont know what thew fuck you mean | May 14 02:53 |
| icu | i love windows | May 14 02:54 |
| icu | ever since windows 95 | May 14 02:54 |
| MinceR | y tho | May 14 02:54 |
| icu | best OS ever | May 14 02:54 |
| MinceR | what's so good about it? | May 14 02:54 |
| icu | they have been ruining it alot | May 14 02:55 |
| MinceR | that's what makes it the best? | May 14 02:55 |
| icu | everything works | May 14 02:55 |
| icu | lots o9f programs | May 14 02:55 |
| icu | they ruined it after trying to become apple | May 14 02:56 |
| MinceR | https://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html | May 14 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com | Hyperbole and a Half: The Alot is Better Than You at Everything | May 14 02:56 | |
| MinceR | i can't find a picture of the "ruining it alot" :( | May 14 02:56 |
| icu | ever since windows 8 | May 14 02:57 |
| MinceR | i guess i missed Backdoors 95 | May 14 02:57 |
| MinceR | the first version i used on my own hw was 98SE | May 14 02:57 |
| icu | 95 crashed ALOT | May 14 02:57 |
| MinceR | that already had wonderful features such as installing the monitor multiple times and have those instances conflict with each other | May 14 02:57 |
| MinceR | do you like crashes? | May 14 02:58 |
| icu | at that time only thing better was apple but it didnt have all the programs | May 14 02:58 |
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| icu | 98SE didnt crashed much | May 14 02:59 |
| MinceR | yes it did | May 14 02:59 |
| chicksahoy | 98SE was trash, i liked win2k better | May 14 03:00 |
| icu | cause you didnt used it right | May 14 03:00 |
| MinceR | riiiiiiight | May 14 03:00 |
| icu | winxp was much better | May 14 03:00 |
| MinceR | using Backdoors right: don't let it boot in the first place | May 14 03:00 |
| MinceR | then it can't crash | May 14 03:00 |
| icu | you didnt had win95 | May 14 03:00 |
| MinceR | oh, it also trashed some VFAT partitions | May 14 03:00 |
| MinceR | on a whim | May 14 03:00 |
| icu | winxp had code red or what was it | May 14 03:01 |
| MinceR | Mountain Dew Code Red? | May 14 03:01 |
| icu | i got that shit thrown at me | May 14 03:01 |
| chicksahoy | lol | May 14 03:01 |
| icu | i fixed you had only like 1 minut before it rebooted | May 14 03:02 |
| MinceR | blaster was like that | May 14 03:02 |
| icu | after like a dozen reboots i got it working agian | May 14 03:02 |
| icu | maybe it was that one | May 14 03:02 |
| icu | i got it just after i 1st instaled it | May 14 03:03 |
| icu | weee new windows lets check that out | May 14 03:03 |
| icu | instant fail | May 14 03:03 |
| icu | LOL | May 14 03:03 |
| icu | i couldnt complai i didnt pay for it | May 14 03:04 |
| matey | it took forever to get me to go from windows 3.1 to 95 | May 14 03:05 |
| matey | from 3.0 was easy-- 3.0 still behaved like dos | May 14 03:05 |
| icu | windows 3.1 i never used it just lets keep to dos | May 14 03:05 |
| matey | if something went wrong, you never had to worry-- the machine would simply freeze. for some reason they didnt call it "memory safe mode" | May 14 03:05 |
| matey | 3,1 introduced the ginger-headed screen of death, which some people insist is blue | May 14 03:06 |
| icu | if i needed it you would type win | May 14 03:06 |
| icu | just like startx | May 14 03:06 |
| matey | its obviously a ginger in disguise, or no one could hate it so much | May 14 03:06 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 03:07 |
| matey | originally, and not for very long, the so-called blue screen of death was very welcome | May 14 03:07 |
| matey | heres why | May 14 03:07 |
| MinceR | i don't think the color is the reason why people hate it | May 14 03:07 |
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| matey | in a situation where the machine would definitely freeze. now it MIGHT | May 14 03:07 |
| matey | or, possibly, you would have a chance to save your work | May 14 03:07 |
| icu | maybe it was the color on peoples faces | May 14 03:08 |
| MinceR | also, i don't even mind gingers | May 14 03:08 |
| matey | then shut down, because obviously at that point | May 14 03:08 |
| matey | im very fond of karen gillan, so | May 14 03:08 |
| matey | and scottish accents in general | May 14 03:08 |
| chicksahoy | i remember the days of using trumpet winsock to get win3.1x onto the internet so i could use mIRC and Netscape | May 14 03:08 |
| matey | i tried | May 14 03:08 |
| matey | finally i just installed (from floppies) this package that my isp offered | May 14 03:08 |
| icu | you should always keep your windows cd handyt | May 14 03:09 |
| icu | i sure remeber that | May 14 03:09 |
| matey | and it allowed me to connect to my isp in windows 3.1 without knowing which runes and chants would make trumpet winsock work | May 14 03:09 |
| matey | no it was not aol. | May 14 03:09 |
| matey | id sooner use cans and string | May 14 03:09 |
| icu | i even had a windows cd costume made | May 14 03:09 |
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| icu | with norton tools or something | May 14 03:10 |
| matey | but anyway, after you see the bsod and maybe save your work | May 14 03:10 |
| matey | which dos trains you to do every 5 second anyway | May 14 03:10 |
| icu | also you should backup the registry | May 14 03:10 |
| matey | type type type CTRL S type type type CTRL S (enter) | May 14 03:11 |
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| matey | uptime still > 200 days here | May 14 03:11 |
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| matey | you had to shut down after a bsod | May 14 03:12 |
| matey | because after that you couldnt trust opening notepad to not freeze the system | May 14 03:12 |
| matey | or maybe moving an icon would do it | May 14 03:12 |
| MinceR | 14 040548 < matey> if something went wrong, you never had to worry-- the machine would simply freeze. for some reason they didnt call it "memory safe mode" | May 14 03:12 |
| MinceR | the buzzword wasn't invented yet, i guess | May 14 03:12 |
| MinceR | or wasn't popularized by the hipsters | May 14 03:12 |
| matey | it was basically russian roulette with ram at that point | May 14 03:13 |
| icu | how did you recover from BSOD? | May 14 03:13 |
| MinceR | reboot | May 14 03:13 |
| matey | oh we didnt trust reboot either | May 14 03:13 |
| MinceR | hopefully into a real OS | May 14 03:13 |
| matey | you could never be sure with reboot | May 14 03:13 |
| matey | nope, you had to shutdown | May 14 03:13 |
| matey | yes its harder on the power supply | May 14 03:13 |
| matey | but ram-wise, far more reliable. or something. | May 14 03:13 |
| matey | it also helped if you didnt look directly at the screen when you booted | May 14 03:14 |
| matey | who knows what could happen | May 14 03:14 |
| matey | or alternatively, you had to watch each step of the boot process | May 14 03:14 |
| matey | some of these things existed for sound reasons, and the others, who knows | May 14 03:14 |
| matey | couldnt hurt | May 14 03:14 |
| MinceR | you can't shutdown if you have a BSoD | May 14 03:15 |
| icu | i think MS it self coded blaster to fuck up piarates | May 14 03:15 |
| matey | oh thats right | May 14 03:15 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmYCG1uZdDgMXspdLbXDQngGQ4yhXE6HgWMFpDUPkCaRGd | May 14 03:15 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | May 14 03:15 |
| matey | you had to ctrl alt del | May 14 03:15 |
| matey | but in general reboot was not to be trusted | May 14 03:15 |
| matey | i think i must have trusted it a little because i used it often enough | May 14 03:15 |
| matey | but i was told by sages not to | May 14 03:15 |
| matey | (i think maybe they were a little full of shit) | May 14 03:16 |
| matey | there was at some point, probably a less than magical reason for all that | May 14 03:16 |
| matey | /me shrugs | May 14 03:16 |
| MinceR | rebooting from a system that's running and can be shut down is discouraged | May 14 03:16 |
| matey | okay then | May 14 03:16 |
| chicksahoy | powering down was for a good reason, you wanted to reset all the hardware too | May 14 03:16 |
| MinceR | it can cause cache not being flushed and filesystem corruption, both of which can be avoided via a proper shutdown | May 14 03:16 |
| matey | with systemd it simply tempts fate | May 14 03:17 |
| icu | just the other month i had this thing in linux were it would only boot like after 3 trys | May 14 03:17 |
| icu | i read it was something to do with google | May 14 03:17 |
| MinceR | could be systemd | May 14 03:17 |
| matey | which like everything else about systemd, is an upstream problem and they simply cant be arsed | May 14 03:17 |
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| icu | it didt even reached systemd | May 14 03:18 |
| icu | it was something with grafics | May 14 03:18 |
| chicksahoy | icu: everyone here likes to blame systemd for everything | May 14 03:18 |
| matey | "im merely infallible laddie, it doesnt mean im god you know" | May 14 03:18 |
| chicksahoy | war un ukraine? systemd's fault | May 14 03:18 |
| matey | idiots who troll us with bullshit? systemds fault. | May 14 03:18 |
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| icu | its was some grafics file from google | May 14 03:18 |
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| icu | i cant be sure but read other people having the problem | May 14 03:19 |
| matey | fixed | May 14 03:19 |
| MinceR | i meant the failure to boot, of course | May 14 03:19 |
| icu | the screen just whent to sleep | May 14 03:19 |
| MinceR | i would get a lot of booting to emergency prompt hidden on an inactive vc with ubunturd | May 14 03:19 |
| matey | people who defend systemd should kill themselves | May 14 03:19 |
| MinceR | thankfully not on my own hw | May 14 03:19 |
| matey | bill hicks | May 14 03:19 |
| matey | seriously, its a branch of marketing | May 14 03:20 |
| icu | it didnt even shou any text | May 14 03:20 |
| matey | he said it, not me | May 14 03:20 |
| icu | may system uses up 650 M after boot i blame systemd | May 14 03:21 |
| icu | i used linux that used like 150 m not that long ago | May 14 03:22 |
| icu | with x running | May 14 03:22 |
| chicksahoy | icu: what de | May 14 03:22 |
| icu | xfce | May 14 03:23 |
| icu | the same im using now | May 14 03:23 |
| icu | even KDE | May 14 03:23 |
| chicksahoy | im using fedora and gnome | May 14 03:23 |
| icu | before the plasma thing | May 14 03:23 |
| icu | thou KDE used ti sigterm error | May 14 03:24 |
| icu | or something like that | May 14 03:24 |
| icu | i cant only suspect its systemd | May 14 03:25 |
| icu | from arounf 150 m to 600 m is alot ram to gobble up | May 14 03:26 |
| icu | also it was 32 not 64 | May 14 03:26 |
| icu | so that surelly accounts for something | May 14 03:26 |
| icu | gnome the kinder garden DE | May 14 03:27 |
| chicksahoy | lol | May 14 03:28 |
| chicksahoy | as far as wayland support goes, its the least buggy de | May 14 03:28 |
| icu | oh look mom so many icons so litle text | May 14 03:29 |
| icu | so many unicorns | May 14 03:30 |
| icu | you got love how gnome makes this huge icons and tiny text below them | May 14 03:30 |
| icu | its like form over function | May 14 03:31 |
| MinceR | they'd prefer no text | May 14 03:31 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll get around to it one of these days | May 14 03:31 |
| MinceR | probably not before their beloved crApple does | May 14 03:31 |
| MinceR | idiocracy style! | May 14 03:31 |
| icu | and how they rename programs like TEST EDITOR | May 14 03:31 |
| icu | TEXT EDITOR is it emacs vi vim nano | May 14 03:32 |
| MinceR | none of those is "modern" | May 14 03:32 |
| icu | NVM you stupid user use the kinder garden one size fits all | May 14 03:32 |
| MinceR | then again, text editors aren't "modern" | May 14 03:32 |
| MinceR | text is scary | May 14 03:32 |
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| MinceR | and you might end up writing a program with it | May 14 03:33 |
| MinceR | we can't have that | May 14 03:33 |
| icu | yes people might actually notice that you cant read | May 14 03:33 |
| MinceR | if you need a program, ibm/deadrat will code it into systemd | May 14 03:33 |
| MinceR | and you'll like it | May 14 03:33 |
| matey | happiness is mandatory | May 14 03:33 |
| MinceR | exactly | May 14 03:33 |
| MinceR | failure to be happy is treason | May 14 03:34 |
| matey | lower your shields and prepare to boarded | May 14 03:34 |
| matey | gentoo is futile | May 14 03:34 |
| MinceR | treason is punishable by summary execution | May 14 03:34 |
| matey | /me thinks gentoo makes one of the better cases for gnu/linux in the world, the only problem is linux, and probably gnu | May 14 03:34 |
| icu | i still remeber that computer for the 3th world nations | May 14 03:35 |
| matey | not that ive ever been able to use it | May 14 03:35 |
| icu | thats were modern gnome comefrom | May 14 03:35 |
| matey | the most common review is "i think its great, and i would use it if i could" | May 14 03:35 |
| icu | what was it called? | May 14 03:35 |
| matey | gentoo commands that sort of respect | May 14 03:35 |
| matey | "no i have no use for it at all. but its so good i wish i did." | May 14 03:36 |
| icu | https://olpc.com/pictures.html | May 14 03:39 |
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| icu | thats what gnome is aiming at | May 14 03:39 |
| matey | elementary os is imploding | May 14 03:40 |
| matey | says lunduke, who you know is accurate | May 14 03:40 |
| matey | i knew flatpak was bloated of course, but i didnt know it had enough mass to make a distro implode | May 14 03:40 |
| matey | i did think elementary sucked enough though | May 14 03:41 |
| matey | so its sort of been imploding from the beginning | May 14 03:41 |
| icu | elementary is the apple look a like | May 14 03:41 |
| matey | supposedly everything is systemds fault | May 14 03:41 |
| matey | but even if elementary os didnt have it | May 14 03:41 |
| matey | it honestly would still really suck | May 14 03:42 |
| matey | so im going to go out on a limb and say this is one we cant (entirely) blame systemd for | May 14 03:42 |
| icu | its imploding because they didnt use sytemd | May 14 03:42 |
| matey | its not like you HAVE TO add systemd to make your distro suck | May 14 03:42 |
| icu | wich is ofcourse systemfd fault | May 14 03:42 |
| matey | people are just lazy and like a trusted solution for that | May 14 03:42 |
| matey | elementary used several layers of things that suck, it didnt just rely on some cookie-cutter package for it | May 14 03:43 |
| icu | you cant have a distro with out systemd its a FACT | May 14 03:43 |
| matey | it even had mono for fucks sake | May 14 03:43 |
| icu | linux people just dont have the taste to use an apple inspired gui | May 14 03:45 |
| icu | fringe people | May 14 03:45 |
| icu | their not cultivated enough to understand aple finess | May 14 03:46 |
| psydruid | tristesse, you mean? | May 14 03:46 |
| icu | https://etcherpc.com/top-linux-distros-like-macos/ | May 14 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etcherpc.com | Top 5 Linux Distros That Look Like MacOS | Etcher | May 14 03:47 | |
| psydruid | macOS's best feature is being buggy and slow | May 14 03:48 |
| icu | cant they not understand that colsing windows on the right side its the natural thing to do what are they english? | May 14 03:48 |
| matey | its never the ones that actually should | May 14 03:50 |
| icu | macs looked alot better in 1995 | May 14 03:50 |
| icu | what was windows 95 donne right | May 14 03:50 |
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| matey | for some reason, when people who use windows are curious about alternatives | May 14 03:50 |
| matey | their first question is "why should i use this piece of shit?" | May 14 03:51 |
| psydruid | what was done right with windows 95 | May 14 03:51 |
| matey | why were you curious-- and if not, why are you bothering people?" | May 14 03:51 |
| icu | macs | May 14 03:51 |
| icu | that / what | May 14 03:51 |
| matey | /me is definitely in more of a "fuck you, read a fucking book" mood | May 14 03:52 |
| matey | learn things, be less stupid | May 14 03:52 |
| matey | or whatever, i dont fucking care | May 14 03:52 |
| psydruid | why glorify two piece-of-shit operating systems from the 80s and 90s | May 14 03:53 |
| icu | matey has kindred spirit | May 14 03:53 |
| matey | because, tada, its what theyre used to | May 14 03:54 |
| icu | why glorify two piece-of-shit operating systems from the 2010s and 2020s | May 14 03:54 |
| icu | unix is even older | May 14 03:55 |
| icu | LOL | May 14 03:55 |
| icu | the father of linux | May 14 03:55 |
| icu | that mainframe for you | May 14 03:55 |
| matey | and why ask real questions when you can pretend? | May 14 03:55 |
| icu | maxs had good hardware good screens | May 14 03:56 |
| icu | retina display heh | May 14 03:56 |
| icu | i did like that | May 14 03:57 |
| psydruid | Unix didn't crash every 5 seconds by the 90s | May 14 03:57 |
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| icu | now its 4k 120 hz and still look like shit | May 14 03:59 |
| icu | mac was pixel perfect | May 14 03:59 |
| icu | no font somthing crap | May 14 03:59 |
| psydruid | and then you look in the mirror and what you see also still looks like shit | May 14 04:00 |
| psydruid | some things just never change | May 14 04:00 |
| icu | that fuck you want? | May 14 04:01 |
| psydruid | I don't want that fuck, you can have it | May 14 04:01 |
| icu | LOL | May 14 04:02 |
| icu | piece of shit hacker | May 14 04:02 |
| icu | you my fan boi? | May 14 04:02 |
| matey | if this sort of thing keeps up, mincer wont have to say anything anymore except "no u" | May 14 04:03 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 04:04 |
| matey | me, im simply wielding egrep -v until none of this has any context | May 14 04:04 |
| matey | but its more enjoyable that way | May 14 04:04 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 04:05 |
| matey | theres no troll problem | May 14 04:05 |
| matey | not with regexes | May 14 04:06 |
| matey | its funny how much of this is directly related to a very old video game | May 14 04:06 |
| matey | then again thats appropriate, given that i wasnt talking about spacewar, but-- maybe its karma | May 14 04:07 |
| matey | this is more like lunar lander anyway | May 14 04:07 |
| matey | you only have so much energy, you spend it on bullshit, then the whole thing crashes and burns | May 14 04:08 |
| matey | shit, i just thought of a question for buzz aldrin | May 14 04:09 |
| matey | "have you played lunar lander-- and it is harder or easier than the real thing?" | May 14 04:09 |
| psydruid | if I hadn't slapt during the evening I wouldn't be awake right now | May 14 04:10 |
| matey | im glad i didnt think of that one. | May 14 04:10 |
| matey | plus im pretty sure its harder than the real thing | May 14 04:10 |
| matey | and i dont expect him to admit it | May 14 04:10 |
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| icu | idiots | May 14 04:13 |
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| psydruid | три идиоты | May 14 04:16 |
| icu | heil putins | May 14 04:17 |
| icu | internet putins | May 14 04:17 |
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| icu | LOL bunch of dictators wannabes | May 14 04:18 |
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| icu | server masters of the world | May 14 04:19 |
| icu | you are going down with this stupid idiot world you created | May 14 04:20 |
| icu | the monkeys with too much "intelligence" for their own good | May 14 04:20 |
| icu | imbecils with an ego complex | May 14 04:21 |
| icu | the more they know the less they understand | May 14 04:22 |
| icu | FUCK YOU ALL | May 14 04:22 |
| icu | you wont have your way with me | May 14 04:23 |
| matey | its weird that people are too lazy to write, so they go to WAY more effort to do video | May 14 04:24 |
| matey | nonetheless this is where a lot of content has gone to, and why | May 14 04:24 |
| matey | some of it is useful | May 14 04:25 |
| icu | dont need to know how to write to do video | May 14 04:26 |
| icu | useful shit that whats were after | May 14 04:27 |
| icu | besides theres no copyrights on irc | May 14 04:28 |
| matey | oh god | May 14 04:30 |
| matey | theres a thing called fnaify | May 14 04:30 |
| matey | it lets you plan steam games on openbsd | May 14 04:30 |
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| icu | so openbsd actually has trojans | May 14 04:31 |
| matey | what next, activelow gets steam games running on an altair 8800 | May 14 04:31 |
| icu | assassins creed | May 14 04:31 |
| icu | very educational | May 14 04:32 |
| matey | /me is pretty sure fnaify isnt memory safe | May 14 04:32 |
| icu | thats a good thing | May 14 04:33 |
| icu | trojan work better that way | May 14 04:33 |
| matey | worse, mono | May 14 04:36 |
| icu | you should play games in stereo not mono | May 14 04:37 |
| matey | you can also (this is probably better) run atari 2600 games | May 14 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | I can't get over the Philippines using Frontpage 2000 for their government websites. | May 14 04:39 |
| icu | you mean moon lander? | May 14 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | Optimized for Internet Explorer 5? | May 14 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://nypost.com/2022/05/12/calling-men-bald-at-work-now-considered-sexual-harassment-in-the-uk/ | May 14 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Calling men 'bald' at work now considered sexual harassment in the UK | May 14 04:41 | |
| icu | im not english but i fail to grasp what 'bald' has to do with sexuallity? | May 14 04:43 |
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| icu | maybe someone can enlighten me | May 14 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | There was a question on the form if you've been out of state in the last 30 days and said if you've been to an "orange" state as defined by the CDC, then you were forbidden from going inside. | May 14 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "I guarantee you if they use Frontpage 2000 they're not tracking whether you've been out of the state. What "orange" means is just some bullshit coming out of some musty bureaucrat's office and I guarantee you if you make me go to Chicago and Indiana is on the Orange list this week, then I'm going to be fucking pissed.". | May 14 04:46 |
| icu | Calling women 'bald' on the other way its cause assault and battery | May 14 04:47 |
| icu | wtf is that related to anything? | May 14 04:47 |
| icu | Calling women 'bald' on the other way its cause for assault and battery in the usa | May 14 04:49 |
| icu | LOL | May 14 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | It could be discrimination under Illinois law. | May 14 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | The blacks passed a bill that makes discriminating against "hairstyles" a crime. | May 14 04:50 |
| icu | discrimination makes sense | May 14 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | Bald is a style of hair (no hair). | May 14 04:50 |
| icu | its a bit difrent | May 14 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | So then discriminating against someone for being bald violates the anti-hair discrimination law in Illinois. | May 14 04:50 |
| icu | you usual cal some one bald in a derogattorty way | May 14 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | The law makes it an offense to force someone to change their hairstyle to go to school or work. | May 14 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | Betcha that won't be abused. | May 14 04:51 |
| icu | its more like disablity | May 14 04:51 |
| icu | can you make fun of people with disability? | May 14 04:52 |
| icu | what i dont understand is what its got to do with sexuality? | May 14 04:54 |
| icu | if it was bald has in no pubic air might even make some sense | May 14 04:55 |
| icu | like who cares the world is ruled by a bunch of idiots anyway | May 14 04:56 |
| icu | no point trying to rationalize imbecilic reasoning | May 14 04:56 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▃▄▆▆▇▅▄▃▄▅▅▆▄▅▃▄▅▁▆▅▆▅▂▃▃▅▃▄▅▃▅▅▃▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 21.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▂▁▂▂▂▃▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂█▂▁▂▂▁▄▂▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 15.35▕ swarm size (avg): 407.48 ⟲ | May 14 04:59 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.bobvila.com/articles/dehumidifier-water-uses/ | May 14 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bobvila.com | 6 Smart Ways to Reuse Dehumidifier Water - Advice From Bob Vila | May 14 06:36 | |
| DaemonFC | Bob Vila actually recommended what I thought of, with the repurposing dehumidifier water for car washes. | May 14 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | Only I just need a gallon or so each month to reconstitute my waterless car was concentrate. | May 14 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of the rest will drain into my washing maching basin. I finally set up the drainage hose from the dehumidifier to automatically purge the wastewater into that. | May 14 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | When I got a load of how much water that thing sucks out of the air, and what the city charges for water these days, I figured why not use it for something? | May 14 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | I hate the government. Use the hundred gallons or so of wastewater for other stuff then pour it down the drain. Even if it saves my landlord the $2 or so each month, at least it didn't go to the government. | May 14 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | Their latest outrage was tacking on a water surcharge to make people pay an assessment for a road that they are already collecting tolls on. | May 14 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody remembers, of course, but when the toll road went in, back in the 1950s, the government promised that it would pay for the road and then the toll booths would go away. | May 14 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | They only went away when the toll road figured out how to fire all of the toll collectors and force us to use RFID transponders on our cars instead, followed by another toll hike. | May 14 06:41 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, May 13, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | May 14 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | May 14 07:02 | |
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| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D229.jpg | May 14 07:16 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D230.jpg | May 14 07:16 |
| techrights-news | Cheetah a Day — Day 586: the olden chee gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D586.jpg | May 14 07:17 |
| techrights-news | Cheetah a Day — Day 587: i got places to be! gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D587.jpg | May 14 07:17 |
| techrights-news | offline and limited bandwidth gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220513.gmi | May 14 07:18 |
| techrights-news | "Native [GNU] Linux support)" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/lovecrafts-untold-stories-2-gets-delayed/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lovecraft's Untold Stories 2 gets delayed | GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | Windows-centric, but some people try to change that... ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/open-3d-engine-v2205-out-o3dcon-in-october-with-proposals-open/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open 3D Engine v22.05 out, O3DCon in October with proposals open | GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:23 | |
| techrights-news | "Please Fix The Road is an upcoming puzzle game I highlighted back in March because it looks simply beautiful" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/please-fix-the-road-will-have-an-official-version-just-for-pirates/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Please Fix The Road will have an official version just for pirates | GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:24 | |
| techrights-news | "By default, every command that you execute on your terminal is stored by the shell (command interpreter)" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/run-linux-command-without-saving-in-history/ | | May 14 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Run a Linux Command Without Saving It in History | May 14 07:25 | |
| techrights-news | "Ready for one more run? Funselektor Labs have announced that art of rally is set for another big free expansion." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/art-of-rally-is-getting-another-big-free-update-with-indonesia/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-art of rally is getting another big free update with Indonesia | GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:25 | |
| techrights-news | "The latest update to Proton Experimental has landed for running Windows games on Linux and Steam Deck." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/proton-experimental-bumps-minimum-driver-version-more-playable-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proton Experimental bumps minimum driver version, more playable on Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:25 | |
| techrights-news | "Valve have released a small update for the Steam Deck, along with an update to the main desktop Steam client" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/steam-deck-gets-some-quick-fixes-main-steam-client-update-with-deck-verified-collections/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Deck gets some quick fixes, main Steam Client update with Deck Verified Collections | GamingOnLinux | May 14 07:25 | |
| techrights-news | "A complete rebuild of snapshot 20220510 is syncing with the mirrors and should soon be a zypper dup away" ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/05/13/gcc-12-is-coming/ | | May 14 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News | May 14 07:27 | |
| techrights-news | "With Kubernetes 1.24 the gRPC probes functionality entered beta and is available by default." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/05/13/grpc-probes-now-in-beta/ | May 14 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Kubernetes 1.24: gRPC container probes in beta | Kubernetes | May 14 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | "Kubernetes, containers and highly scalable [clown [dis]services are the modern elements of business software [hype]." ☛ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/5-things-sres-and-sysadmins-should-know-about-rosa-and-cloud-services | Source: Red Hat Official | May 14 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 5 things SREs and Sysadmins should know about ROSA and cloud services | May 14 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | "cURL is an excellent tool for network communications, it stands for 'client URL.'" ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/curl-timeout/ | Source: Linux Handbook | May 14 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | How to Set Timeout in cURL | May 14 07:29 | |
| techrights-news | "The Fedora project will not include any package that doesn't comply with Fedora licensing policies" ☛ https://ostechnix.com/install-third-party-software-fedy-fedora/ | | May 14 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Install Third Party Software Using Fedy In Fedora - OSTechNix | May 14 07:29 | |
| techrights-news | Nvidia Open Sources Linux Drivers!! But There’s A Catch ⚓ https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/nvidia-open-sources-linux-drivers!!-but:7 ䷉ Source: BrodieRobertson | May 14 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Nvidia Open Sources Linux Drivers!! But There's A Catch | May 14 07:29 | |
| techrights-news | Framework laptop finally embraces "schematics or die", long live framework! ⚓ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/framework-laptop-finally-embraces:f +1 initial schematics ; -1 github ; | May 14 07:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Framework laptop finally embraces "schematics or die", long live framework! | May 14 07:33 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: the root password to bypass democracy https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/proposal-regulation-laying-down-rules-prevent-and-combat-child-sexual-abuse_en | May 14 07:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eur-lex.europa.eu | EUR-Lex - COM:2022:209:FIN - EN - EUR-Lex | May 14 07:33 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: Microsoft represented there multiple times https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-openssf-gather-industry-government-leaders-open-source-software-security-summit/ | May 14 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Foundation and Open Source Software Security Foundation (OpenSSF) Gather Industry and Government Leaders for Open Source Software Security Summit II - Linux Foundation | May 14 07:34 | |
| techrights-news | Client Side Scanning May Cost More Than it Delivers - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/13/0343256 ䷉ Source: soylentnews | May 14 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Client Side Scanning May Cost More Than it Delivers - SoylentNews | May 14 07:35 | |
| techrights-news | "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago" ☛ https://puri.sm/posts/the-second-best-time-to-protect-your-privacy/ | Source: Purism | May 14 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | The Second Best Time to Protect Your Privacy – Purism | May 14 07:36 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Lovecraft, Please Fix The Road, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164831 | May 14 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Lovecraft, Please Fix The Road, and More | Tux Machines | May 14 07:36 | |
| techrights-news | "My colleagues and I at Stanford University and Netflix, recently published a paper at the Internet Measurement Conference 2021 (and which was one of the recipients of this year’s Applied Networking Research Prize)" ☛ https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/11/reducing-bias-of-networking-a-b-tests/ | Source: APNIC | May 14 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.apnic.net | Reducing bias of networking A/B tests | APNIC Blog | May 14 07:37 | |
| techrights-news | "These can be used to either protect IP directly or in a ‘tunnelled’ mode." ☛ https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/09/future-of-ipsec/ | Source: APNIC | May 14 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.apnic.net | The future (and history) of IPSec | APNIC Blog | May 14 07:37 | |
| techrights-news | "This prompted my colleagues and me at the University of Twente to think of how to further shrink the surface for abuse of open resolvers during DDoS attacks" ☛ https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/13/open-dns-resolvers-from-bad-to-worse/ | Source: APNIC | May 14 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.apnic.net | Open DNS resolvers, from bad to worse | APNIC Blog | May 14 07:37 | |
| techrights-news | "This article was written so that focus can be brought to the accessibility of the Linux desktop." ☛ https://scribe.rip/@r.d.t.prater/linux-accessibility-an-unmaintained-mess-8fbf9decaf8a | | May 14 07:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scribe.rip | Linux Accessibility: an unmaintained Mess | May 14 07:38 | |
| techrights-news | "it’s possible to run your Raspberry Pi headless (without a monitor)" ☛ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-matrix-dashboard | Source: Tom's Hardware | May 14 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Raspberry Pi Matrix Dashboard is Packed with Features and Apps | Tom's Hardware | May 14 07:38 | |
| techrights-news | "Trailing dots on host names in URLs is the gift that keeps on giving." ☛ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/12/a-tale-of-a-trailing-dot/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg | May 14 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A tale of a trailing dot | daniel.haxx.se | May 14 07:39 | |
| techrights-news | "Firefox uses a multi-process model for additional security and stabilit" ☛ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/05/improved-process-isolation-in-firefox-100/ | Source: Mozilla | May 14 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Improved Process Isolation in Firefox 100 - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog | May 14 07:42 | |
| techrights-news | "Recently I wanted to do some basic data analysis using data from my Shopify store." ☛ https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/05/12/sqlite-utils--a-nice-way-to-import-data-into-sqlite/ | Source: Julia Evans | May 14 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | sqlite-utils: a nice way to import data into SQLite for analysis | May 14 07:42 | |
| techrights-news | "The Expert group on the Interoperability of European Public Services came together" ☛ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/interoperable-europe/news/official-expert-recommendations-new-interoperability-policy | Source: Joinup | May 14 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Official expert recommendations for a new Interoperability Policy | Joinup | May 14 07:43 | |
| techrights-news | "Once I decided to get back into blogging, I first went on a deep rabbit hole of researching what to use. It is not as if I didn’t had a website" ☛ https://andregarzia.com/2022/05/How-this-blog-works-or-embracing-chaos.html | Source: Andre Alves Garzia | May 14 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How this blog works, or, embracing chaos • AndreGarzia.com | May 14 07:43 | |
| techrights-news | The Shark Pen Is a Great Pen gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/the-shark-pen-is-a-great-pen.gmi | May 14 07:45 |
| techrights-news | "Attraction is interesting because who you find attractive can surprise you. This is what dating apps get wrong" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | May 14 07:45 |
| techrights-news | "You wanna know what's way more difficult than I thought it would be? Doing real work after over a couple decades of writing software remotely." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/944 | May 14 07:46 |
| techrights-news | "There's a question that I ask myself very frequently, which sounds somewhat like this: "What on Earth did the Internet do to people to make them so full of their negative opinions?"" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/945 | May 14 07:47 |
| techrights-news | "I also feel compassion for my students" ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/13/opinion/college-university-remote-pandemic.html | Source: New York Times | May 14 07:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | My College Students Are Not OK - The New York Times | May 14 07:50 | |
| techrights-news | "I found another interesting Word document that delivered an interesting malicious script to potential victims" ☛ https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28628 | Source: SANS | May 14 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center | May 14 07:51 | |
| techrights-news | "Enterprise purchasers should expect to become frustrated when purchasing new hardware in the coming months" ☛ https://www.computerworld.com/article/3660609/apples-mac-shortage-is-a-big-red-flag-for-enterprise-it.html | Source: Computer World | May 14 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Mac shortage is a big red flag for enterprise IT | Computerworld | May 14 07:52 | |
| techrights-news | "While Apple shipping delays are hardly a new phenomenon, particularly with newer products, just last month, many of these products were being shipped within 2-3 weeks." ☛ https://www.macworld.com/article/700574/macbook-pro-mac-studio-shortages.html | Source: Macworld | May 14 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As WWDC looms, Apple is quickly running out of Macs | Macworld | May 14 07:52 | |
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| techrights-news | ICBM's Openwashing Festival ☛ https://siliconangle.com/2022/05/13/red-hat-summit-marks-triumph-open-source-rhsummit/ | Source: Silicon Angle | May 14 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Summit marks the triumph of open source - SiliconANGLE | May 14 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | Cisco Openwashing... while making things working for NSA (spies) ☛ https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/interview/cisco-community-is-key-for-open-source-security/2022/05/ | Source: SDx Central | May 14 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cisco: Community Is Key for Open Source Security - SDxCentral | May 14 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | LF as the voice of Microsoft et al ☛ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-openssf-gather-industry-government-leaders-open-source-software-security-summit/ | | May 14 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Foundation and Open Source Software Security Foundation (OpenSSF) Gather Industry and Government Leaders for Open Source Software Security Summit II - Linux Foundation | May 14 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | "Yik Yak, an app that acts as a local anonymous message board, makes it possible to find users’ precise locations and unique IDs, Motherboard reports." ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23070696/yik-yak-anonymous-app-precise-locations-revealed | Source: The Verge | May 14 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Anonymous bulletin board app Yik Yak is revealing its users’ exact locations - The Verge | May 14 07:57 | |
| techrights-news | "In this case, it means that the EU wants to force all providers of email, messaging, and chat services to comprehensively search all private messages, even in the absence of any suspicion. That makes the contents of messages no longer private between the sender and receiver, and client-side scanning breaks the E2E encryption trust model." ☛ https://blog.malwarebytes.com/privacy-2/2022/05/client-side-scanning-may-cost-more-than-it- | May 14 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.malwarebytes.com | Client side scanning may cost more than it delivers | Malwarebytes Labs | May 14 07:57 | |
| techrights-news | "Stalkerware, also referred to as spyware, is software designed to secretly monitor another person, tracking their location, phone calls, private messages, web searches, and keystrokes." ☛ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/05/12/1052125/google-failing-stalkerware-apps-ads-ban/ | Source: MIT Technology Review | May 14 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Google is failing to enforce its own ban on ads for stalkerware | MIT Technology Review | May 14 07:57 | |
| techrights-news | "The Markup found, however, that while “Hispanic culture” was removed, for example, “Spanish language” was not." ☛ https://themarkup.org/citizen-browser/2022/05/12/facebook-promised-to-remove-sensitive-ads-heres-what-it-left-behind | Source: The Markup | May 14 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-themarkup.org | Facebook Promised to Remove “Sensitive” Ads. Here’s What It Left Behind – The Markup | May 14 07:57 | |
| techrights-news | "This is a historic win for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)." ☛ https://blog.malwarebytes.com/privacy-2/2022/05/clearview-ai-banned-from-selling-facial-recognition-data-in-the-us/ | | May 14 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.malwarebytes.com | Clearview AI banned from selling facial recognition data in the US | Malwarebytes Labs | May 14 07:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▆▃▅▃▅▅▆▄▅▅▅▅▅▄▃▄▄▅▁▂▃▄▅▃▄▃▇▅▅▆▄▃▄▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 27.88▕ swarm size (avg): 334.15 ⟲ | May 14 07:59 |
| techrights-news | "The lawmakers asked Meta, Twitter, YouTube and TikTok to preserve and archive posts related to the conflict “that may provide evidence of war crimes or human rights violations”" ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3486902-house-democrats-urge-social-media-platforms-to-preserve-potential-evidence-of-war-crimes-in-ukraine/ | Source: The Hill | May 14 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | House Democrats urge social media platforms to preserve potential evidence of war crimes in Ukraine | The Hill | May 14 08:05 | |
| techrights-news | Builder GTK 4 Porting, Part IV • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164832 | May 14 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Builder GTK 4 Porting, Part IV | Tux Machines | May 14 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | This week in KDE: something for everyone • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164833 | May 14 08:07 |
| techrights-news | This week in KDE: something for everyone • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164833 | May 14 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: something for everyone | Tux Machines | May 14 08:07 | |
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| techrights-news | "We cannot live in a world where Facebook and Google know everything about us and we know next to nothing about them" ☛ https://stanforddaily.com/2022/05/10/stanford-law-professor-calls-for-digital-platform-transparency-legislation-in-senate-testimony/ | Source: uni Stanford | May 14 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stanforddaily.com | Stanford law professor calls for digital platform transparency legislation in senate testimony | The Stanford Daily | May 14 08:44 | |
| techrights-news | "The airline revealed this week that it has cancelled 4,000 flights from May to August" ☛ https://cphpost.dk/?p=133791 | Source: Copenhagen Post | May 14 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | SAS cancels thousands of flights this summer - The Post | May 14 08:57 | |
| techrights-news | "cryptocurrency" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23070853/crypto-exchanges-delist-terra-stablecoin-luna-binance | Source: The Verge | May 14 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Major exchanges delist Terra stablecoin as price collapse continues - The Verge | May 14 08:57 | |
| techrights-news | Big loss ☛ https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/emirates-air-lost-billion-80-improvement-84690619 | Source: ABC | May 14 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Emirates Air lost $1 billion, but that's an 80% improvement - ABC News | May 14 08:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▄▅▄▆▇▆▄▅▅▃▄▅▆▇▆▂▄▅▄▅▂▃▅▂▄▄▅▅▂▃▅▄▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 18.20 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 33.21▕ swarm size (avg): 352.81 ⟲ | May 14 08:59 |
| techrights-news | "It’s not a website. Your clients are internet providers. They are not websites" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23068423/fifth-circuit-texas-social-media-law-ruling-first-amendment-section-230 | Source: The Verge | May 14 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | A court just blew up internet law because it thinks YouTube isn’t a website - The Verge | May 14 09:04 | |
| techrights-news | "still committed to acquisition" ☛ https://deadline.com/2022/05/elon-musk-twitter-deal-on-hold-1235023048/ | Source: Deadline | May 14 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Musk Says Twitter Deal “On Hold” Following Spam Account Reveal – Deadline | May 14 09:04 | |
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| techrights-news | "Musk puts on hold $44-billion deal for Twitter, shares slump" ☛ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/musk-puts-on-hold-44-billion-deal-for-twitter-shares-slump/91542502 | Source: India Times | May 14 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | twitter: Musk puts on hold $44-billion deal for Twitter, shares slump, CIO News, ET CIO | May 14 09:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5% of users" ☛ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/elon-musk-twitter-deal-temporarily-hold-1235146041/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter | May 14 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Elon Musk: “Twitter Deal Temporarily on Hold” – The Hollywood Reporter | May 14 09:19 | |
| techrights-news | Gulagtube ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/amber-heard-trial-depp-youtube-content-platform-algorithm-tiktok-rcna28016 | Source: NBC | May 14 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | YouTube creators are pivoting to pro-Depp, anti-Amber Heard content and raking in millions of views | May 14 09:23 | |
| techrights-news | "And then there are the memes. So many memes." ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/amber-heard-johnny-depp-trial-spawns-memes-are-disturbing-rcna27415 | Source: NBC | May 14 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Amber Heard-Johnny Depp trial spawns memes that are disturbing | May 14 09:23 | |
| techrights-news | "In Sweden there's a sort of unemployment fund you can opt in to paying to if you're in a labour union. If and when you lose your employment you will be entitled to payouts from this fund in lieu of a salary." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-14-unemployment-agency-hassle.gmi | May 14 09:41 |
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| techrights-news | "Could Netflix’s pain be someone else’s gain?" Digital Restrictions (DRM) is a bubble! ☛ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/free-streaming-services-tubi-freevee-roku-1235143393/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter | May 14 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Free Streaming Services Tubi, PlutoTV and Freevee Seize Their Moment – The Hollywood Reporter | May 14 09:46 | |
| techrights-news | Digital Restrictions (DRM): "Netflix is advising its employees to be fiscally responsible, while facing a loss..." ☛ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflix-tells-employees-to-spend-our-members-money-wisely-in-new-memo-1235145947/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter | May 14 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Netflix Tells Employees to ‘Spend Our Members’ Money Wisely’ – The Hollywood Reporter | May 14 09:46 | |
| techrights-news | "right of publicity" ☛ https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/07/us/bj-novak-photo-copyright-explainer-cec/index.html | Source: CNN | May 14 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | How photos end up in the public domain -- and can be used in ads around the world - CNN | May 14 09:47 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164834 | May 14 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 14 09:52 | |
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| techrights-news | UK COVID-19 Deaths Continue to Rise While Government Uses Data/Information Blackout to Hide the Trend http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/14/uk-deaths-covid-19-total/ | May 14 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK COVID-19 Deaths Continue to Rise While Government Uses Data/Information Blackout to Hide the Trend | May 14 10:01 | |
| schestowitz | "On the eve of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelensky’s rating was less than 25 percent. Moscow waging an all-out war turned Zelensky into a national hero — one who now enjoys more than 90 percent support among Ukrainians." | May 14 10:04 |
| schestowitz | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/13/the-collective-zelensky | May 14 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 14 10:04 | |
| schestowitz | War makes people dumb | May 14 10:04 |
| schestowitz | in Russia too, XRevan86 | May 14 10:04 |
| techrights-news | "Up until the end of April, a group of volunteers were working in Penza to help Ukrainian refugees get to St. Petersburg" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/14/penza-volunteers-helped-ukrainian-refugees-leave-for-estonia-now-they-are-being-harassed-in-anonymous-russian-telegram-channels-and-called-ukronazis | Source: Meduza | May 14 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 14 10:05 | |
| techrights-news | Surveillance is NOT "health" ☛ https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/mental-health-apps-privacy/ | Source: PIA | May 14 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Mental Health Apps Are Not As Private As You Think | May 14 10:06 | |
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| techrights-news | "This year, we’ve already seen sizeable leaks of NVIDIA source code" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/nvidia-releases-drivers-with-openness-flavor/ | Source: Hackaday | May 14 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Releases Drivers With Openness Flavor | Hackaday | May 14 10:11 | |
| techrights-news | FriendlyELEC unveils Rockchip based NanoPi R5S SBC with gigabit WAN/LAN support and HDMI output http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164766#comment-33665 | May 14 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NanoPi and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | May 14 10:13 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu 22.10 (Kinetic Kudu) development starts. Here are all the details you need to know. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164835 | May 14 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 22.10 (Kinetic Kudu) development starts. Here are all the details you need to know. | Tux Machines | May 14 10:17 | |
| techrights-news | "Hackaday Editor-in-Chief Elliot Williams and Staff Writer Dan Maloney as they review the top hacks" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/hackaday-podcast-168-math-flattens-spheres-fpgas-emulate-arcades-and-we-cant-shake-polaroid-pictures/ | Source: Hackaday | May 14 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Podcast 168: Math Flattens Spheres, FPGAs Emulate Arcades, And We Can’t Shake Polaroid Pictures | Hackaday | May 14 10:18 | |
| techrights-news | "Illinois’ top financial official has banned local governments from using a state program to collect debt from students who have been ticketed for truancy" ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-school-discipline-ticket-debt-collection | Source: Pro Publica claims to care for young people while BAGGING BRIBES FROM BILL GATES | May 14 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Illinois Will Stop Helping Cities Collect Some School Ticket Debt From Students — ProPublica | May 14 10:25 | |
| techrights-news | "entertainment companies announced suspensions of new business in Russia" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/russias-forced-licensing-plan-for-enemy-content-legalizes-piracy-220513/ | Source: Torrent Freak | May 14 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia's Forced Licensing Plan For 'Enemy' Content "Legalizes Piracy" * TorrentFreak | May 14 10:26 | |
| techrights-news | "controversial takes on copyright and the DMCA" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/elon-musk-overzealous-dmca-is-a-plague-on-humanity-220513/ | Source: Torrent Freak | May 14 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Musk: "Overzealous DMCA Is a Plague On Humanity" * TorrentFreak | May 14 10:26 | |
| techrights-news | "According to [Lee Teschler], the classic representation of encoders showing code rings is out of date" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/absolute-encoder-teardown/ | Source: Hackaday | May 14 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Absolute Encoder Teardown | Hackaday | May 14 10:27 | |
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| SomeH4x0r | hi | May 14 10:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | hi, gm | May 14 10:41 |
| techrights-news | Tyson kills. No, not the boxer. The corporation. ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/documents-covid-meatpacking-tyson-smithfield-trump | Source: Pro Publica | May 14 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | The Plot to Keep Meatpacking Plants Open During COVID-19 — ProPublica | May 14 10:43 | |
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| techrights-news | Alejandro Mayorkas ☛ https://fair.org/home/media-ignore-criticism-of-dhss-new-disinformation-board-unless-its-from-the-right/ | Source: FAIR | May 14 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Media Ignore Criticism of DHS’s New ‘Disinformation’ Board—Unless it’s from the Right - FAIR | May 14 11:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | Based on what I've heard, Tyson was justified in punching the guy. | May 14 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | For some reason, sitting right next to some asshole that ruins the entire flight is some kind of cosmic quirk where it happens nearly every time despite the odds. | May 14 11:19 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/13/1098071284/this-is-how-many-lives-could-have-been-saved-with-covid-vaccinations-in-each-sta | May 14 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Of 1 million COVID deaths, how many could have been averted with vaccines? : Shots - Health News : NPR | May 14 11:21 | |
| DaemonFC | And in a year, if you aren't fully vaccinated, defined as 14 jabs with a product that hasn't changed, they'll still be blaming you. | May 14 11:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Maybe Biden will fix the formula problem like he fixed immigration, Trump's tax giveaways to Creepy Uncle Bill Gates, inflation, the economy, forgave student loan debt, got gas prices under control, and stopped the hyper-aggressive right-wing foreign policies. | May 14 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | (my comment on WGN's latest baby formula article) | May 14 11:32 |
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| techrights-news | The ’Original’ Linus Torvalds on Self-Hosting | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/self-hosting-torvalds/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/self-hosting-torvalds/ | May 14 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Original’ Linus Torvalds on Self-Hosting | Techrights | May 14 11:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | "Bought my first BMW 7 Series in 2001. Kept the car until 2009 and put 169000 miles on it. Eventually, I learned to budget about 3500 - 5000 per year for maintenance after it was out of warranty. Once the car was paid for - spending $3500/year on maintenance didn't seem too awful. I mean all cars need maintenance to one degree or another. I bought a 2010 7 and loved the car but the warranty saved my ass. In the first two years of ownership - | May 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | and well under 48k miles - I needed a new engine and a new transmission at the 23rd month of ownership. Then one of the computer modules crapped out and essentially turned the car into a brick. I put in the new module and traded for a 2013 model 7 series. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. By this time I'd learned to buy the extended maintenance and extend the warranties as far as possible. So when the transmission crapped out and was | May 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | replaced under warranty (in fairness, they gave me a 5 series loaner and picked up and delivered the 7 to keep in my good graces, I think.) The three weeks it took them to get parts and put the new transmission in - along with the computer that controlled it, BTW, I tried a 2015 7-series. By this time, unless you spent the money for the highest-priced 7's, you got a frigging six-cylinder engine. The turbo's made it almost workable at lower | May 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | speeds. Passing on the freeway when you were doing 85 and you overtook something doing over 95, was an ordeal and you couldn't count on it happening fast. This was NOT what I was paying $1500 plus tax per month for!" | May 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | --- | May 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | May 14 12:00 |
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| DaemonFC | _Before_ they went totally to shit, you had to "plan" on budgeting $4,500 a year for car repairs. According to Edmunds, most American cars cost about $600-1000 a year in upkeep and repairs with that mileage range he was talking about on his 2001 BMW. | May 14 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Then he says he got a 2010 and the "extended warranty" replaced the entire powertrain and a lot of computer modules and the car wasn't even two years old yet. | May 14 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Then he bought another one. Same shit. | May 14 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | No reason to fix it if your customers will buy the next one anyway. | May 14 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | You just train them that they will be SO SORRY if they don't buy a $9,000 extended warranty and then ditch their car before it turns 5. | May 14 12:03 |
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| techrights-news | "Like many of you, we’re intrigued by the possibilities offered by the availability of affordable round LCD" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/round-lcds-put-to-work-in-rack-mount-gauge-cluster/ | Source: Hackaday | May 14 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Round LCDs Put To Work In Rack Mount Gauge Cluster | Hackaday | May 14 12:21 | |
| techrights-news | "Before IBM was synonymous with personal computers, they were synonymous with large computers" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/retrotechtacular-the-ibm-system-360-remembered/ | Source: Hackaday | May 14 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Retrotechtacular: The IBM System/360 Remembered | Hackaday | May 14 12:21 | |
| techrights-news | "Wattmeter" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/whats-in-a-wattmeter/ | Source: Hackaday | May 14 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What’s In A Wattmeter? | Hackaday | May 14 12:22 | |
| techrights-news | "Geofence and reverse keyword warrants completely circumvent the limits set by the Fourth Amendment." ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/geofence-warrants-and-reverse-keyword-warrants-are-so-invasive-even-big-tech-wants | Source: EFF | May 14 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Geofence Warrants and Reverse Keyword Warrants are So Invasive, Even Big Tech Wants to Ban Them | Electronic Frontier Foundation | May 14 12:24 | |
| techrights-news | "The boiling frog syndrome suggests that if a frog jumps into a pot of boiling water, it immediately jumps out — but if a frog jumps into a slowly heating pot, it senses no danger and gets cooked." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/13/boiling-elon-musk-jumping-out-of-the-pot-of-platform-law/ | Source: Techdirt | May 14 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Boiling Elon Musk – Jumping Out Of The Pot Of Platform Law? | Techdirt | May 14 12:26 | |
| techrights-news | "funny how people talk to each other on this site despite it being extremely hard to follow or notify the person " gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | May 14 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/red-light-cameras-in-oakbrook-terrace-covered-up?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook | May 14 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Red light cameras in Oakbrook Terrace covered up | May 14 12:46 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's not dumbness, it's because he didn't chicken out. | May 14 12:52 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅█▁▅▅▅▆▆▃▅▄▂▄▅▆▄▅▅▆▆▅▄▅▄▃▄▃▃▆▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 34.41 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂██▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 43.86▕ swarm size (avg): 385.58 ⟲ | May 14 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | The Russians apparently lost an entire battalion trying to cross a bridge yesterday, including dozens of vehicles. | May 14 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 13:03 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Ereyesterday | May 14 13:04 |
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| DaemonFC | "New video and analysis of drone and satellite imagery show that the Russians may have lost as many as 70 armored vehicles and other equipment in attempting to cross the river early this week. Their goal was to try to encircle Ukrainian defenses in the Luhansk region, but it failed spectacularly." | May 14 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ah, well, CNN reported it yesterday | May 14 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Well, that was $150 million worth of equipment and 1,000 Russian lives well spent. | May 14 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | 86% Putin approval rating. | May 14 13:11 |
| techrights-news | Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/ | May 14 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights | May 14 13:11 | |
| DaemonFC | "Russia's most numerous tanks are the T-72B3 (mod. 2011 & 2016) and the older T-72B (mod. 1985 & 1989).[125] In the buildup to the invasion, Russian forces applied improvised steel grilles to the top of the turret, known as "cope cages" by some analysts,[126][127][128][129] along with British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.[130] Military analysts have speculated that such grilles were added in an attempt to counter the usage of top-attack | May 14 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | weapons, such as the US made FGM-148 Javelin and British-Swedish NLAW, by Ukrainian forces.[131][132][133][134] These implementations add weight to the tank, increase its visual profile, and make it more difficult for the crew to escape from the tank.[135]" | May 14 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | May 14 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.thebharatexpressnews.com/teenager-who-killed-six-people-on-bmw-death-ride-asked-people-to-guess-the-speed-for-20/?amp | May 14 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thebharatexpressnews.com | Teenager who 'killed six people on BMW Death Ride' asked people to guess the speed for £20 - The Bharat Express News | May 14 13:16 | |
| bnchs | i guess 300 mph | May 14 13:17 |
| bnchs | am i right? | May 14 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | 151 according to the article. | May 14 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Some guy on Youtube said he liked his BMW because "in a Toyota, you don't feel like you're in control of the car if you're going over 70". | May 14 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | I got 90 miles an hour often in my 2003 Impala (300,000 miles) and in the 2008 Buick LaCrosse, and I have plenty of control over both cars. | May 14 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | *go | May 14 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | And they're not expensive cars. | May 14 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason I don't go faster than that is because I don't want to be charged with speeding as a criminal offense if I don't spot the police in time. | May 14 13:20 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/ukraines-prosecutor-general-at-least-227-children-killed-in-ukraine-since-war-began-news "Ukraine’s prosecutor general: at least 227 children killed in Ukraine since war began" | May 14 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | May 14 13:21 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/crimean-activist-held-for-over-a-week-in-fsb-basement-in-simferopol-her-attorney-says-news "Crimean activist held for over a week in FSB basement in Simferopol, her attorney says" | May 14 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | May 14 13:21 | |
| DaemonFC | They're prosecuting the first Russian soldier accused of a war crime. | May 14 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | He faces up to 15 years for murdering an unarmed man to try to avoid having him phone in their location. | May 14 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | Far too lenient. | May 14 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | Hang him. | May 14 13:22 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Ukrainian law only gives up to 15 years. | May 14 13:23 |
| XRevan86 | This is maximum penalty. | May 14 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | That's very unfortunate. They should change the law, and then hang the rest of them. | May 14 13:23 |
| XRevan86 | Except for incarceration for life, that also exists. | May 14 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | Too lenient. | May 14 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | War criminals deserve to be hanged. It's cheap and it sends a message to the rest. | May 14 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the Nazis were hanged after their trials. Only the ones convicted of lesser crimes went to prison. | May 14 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | LOL!!!!! | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Musk approches privately to buy Twitter | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | my impression graph goes off the chart | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4fold | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | now he makes allegations of bots | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 days ago my graphs fall back down, for the first time since before he approached them | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Bernie Madoff would be proud if he was not dead already | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Twitter is faking it | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and manipulating "Analytics" | May 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not doing a good job hiding that | May 14 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, I found a way to visualise this | May 14 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | will do a post | May 14 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | unfortunately not only are they unlikely to care, the penalties are unlikely | May 14 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | to be enforced, and were the government to try the glacial speed of the response | May 14 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | would render any such efforts moot. | May 14 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 14 13:28 |
| XRevan86 | It seems like if Musk's not going to buy Twitter, then his actions brought Twitter's demise near. | May 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | May 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | good. | May 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | same thing microsofr and ichan did to Yahoo! | May 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but Twitter needs to go | May 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft did that to hurt a competitor | May 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft kept making offers to buy Yahoo! | May 14 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then backed away | May 14 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | to lower the price | May 14 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | than the same to Nokia | May 14 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | If Yahoo was still around, the Philippines could use them for Geocities hosting for their embassies to go along with their Frontpage 2000. | May 14 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw the same | May 14 13:32 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ria.ru/20220514/spetsoperatsiya-1788496027.html Try to find a single mention of that Sieversky Donets pontoon battle. | May 14 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ria-ru.translate.goog | Российская ПВО уничтожила 13 украинских беспилотников - РИА Новости, 14.05.2022 | May 14 13:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, they have the most laughable sites | May 14 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and outsourced too | May 14 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | like it's joseon | May 14 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | a digital pseudo-state | May 14 13:32 |
| XRevan86 | Only Great Success | May 14 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The least they could do is use Netscape Composer. | May 14 13:34 |
| XRevan86 | The success is so great the Russian army is retreating from the Kharków area. | May 14 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | Finally an embassy website built for Web 0.9. | May 14 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | I built my website in Composer, but then I redid it with Mozilla Composer so that I could make it validate. | May 14 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape had a habit of bloating the markup and making a ton of small errors that caused it not to validate. | May 14 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | In many cases, you could fix it just by running it through an "HTML Compressor" and then opening and saving it again with Mozilla Composer. | May 14 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then again, I wasn't trying to pretend at running a small country. | May 14 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | I just needed to quickly verify the code and then open and close it in several browsers to make sure they all handled it okay. | May 14 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | Internet Explorer was actually the most forgiving. It tried to deal with undefined and illegal behaviors. | May 14 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | Most people suspect this was so their broken website wouldn't be obvious and then it would fail to load at all in anything else. | May 14 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Then to deal with "complainers" who use Netscape or Opera, you just stuck out a "Best Viewed in Internet Explorer" button. | May 14 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't run into any VBS crap on the Philippines websites though. | May 14 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how they use Frontpage 2000. | May 14 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | Actual Windows XP or a virtual machine so they don't have to train anyone on new software? | May 14 13:43 |
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| techrights-news | Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated ’Stats’ (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/ | May 14 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated ‘Stats’ (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | Techrights | May 14 13:58 | |
| techrights-news | KDE Frameworks 5.94 Released with More Than 200 Changes, Here’s What’s New • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164836 | May 14 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.94 Released with More Than 200 Changes, Here's What's New | Tux Machines | May 14 14:03 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164837 | May 14 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 14 14:03 | |
| techrights-news | 𝘛𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴 IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 13, 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/irc-log-130522/ ䷉ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/irc-log-130522/ | May 14 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 13, 2022 | Techrights | May 14 14:06 | |
| techrights-news | FB and Twitter need to die. LinkedIn is already dead/dying, there are even many Microsoft layoffs there. Finally, GulagTube needs to be going the way of the dodo along with Spotify and Netflix. They lack a proper business model. | May 14 14:11 |
| techrights-news | "Perhaps cancel culture is mostly mirage: the social media shadow of American celebrity obsession" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/13/21-fallacies-feeding-cancel-culture-and-holding-back-the-contemporary-u-s-left/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 14 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-21 Fallacies Feeding ‘Cancel Culture’ and Holding Back the Contemporary U.S. Left - CounterPunch.org | May 14 14:13 | |
| techrights-news | "The Limits to Growth" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/13/limits-to-growth-where-we-stand-today/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 14 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Limits to Growth: Where We Stand Today - CounterPunch.org | May 14 14:15 | |
| techrights-news | "After years of dominating American capitalism by grinding workers into the dust, Amazon is on a hot losing streak" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/amazon-monopoly-boycott/ | Source: The Nation | May 14 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Don’t Boycott Amazon | The Nation | May 14 14:26 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://theins.press/en/news/251261 | May 14 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Russia is withdrawing from the outskirts of Kharkiv, says Ukrainian General Staff | May 14 14:30 | |
| XRevan86 | https://theins.press/en/news/251259 | May 14 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | «Philosophers' steamboat» all over again.» Head of Russian TV channel says many propagandists want to quit their jobs | May 14 14:30 | |
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| techrights-news | "Earlier this week, the Biden administration announced a “new” broadband plan that wasn’t actually new." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/13/biden-broadband-event-showcases-why-u-s-telecom-policy-press-coverage-is-so-broken/ | Source: Techdirt | May 14 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden Broadband Event Showcases Why U.S. Telecom Policy, Press Coverage Is So Broken | Techdirt | May 14 14:37 | |
| techrights-news | "We’ve been talking about the EU’s Digital Services Act for a few years now" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/13/because-of-course-rightsholders-pushing-to-turn-digital-services-act-into-another-anti-piracy-tool/ | Source: Techdirt | May 14 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Because Of Course: Rightsholders Pushing To Turn Digital Services Act Into Another Anti-Piracy Tool | Techdirt | May 14 14:38 | |
| techrights-news | Internet ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/13/the-internet-has-opened-up-the-creator-economy-to-new-heights/ | Source: Techdirt | May 14 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Internet Has Opened Up The Creator Economy To New Heights | Techdirt | May 14 14:38 | |
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| techrights-news | "The NYPD has long been a stalwart opponent of transparency and accountability." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/13/nypd-lawyer-forged-emails-lied-to-courts-withheld-information-from-lawsuit-plaintiffs/ | Source: Techdirt | May 14 14:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NYPD Lawyer Forged Emails, Lied To Courts, Withheld Information From Lawsuit Plaintiffs | Techdirt | May 14 14:42 | |
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| techrights-news | ⚓ i Matrix Dashboard | ♾ Gemini address: i Matrix Dashboard | May 14 14:57 |
| techrights-news | Links 14/05/2022: Builder GTK 4 Porting and Raspberry Pi Matrix Dashboard | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/builder-gtk-4-porting-raspi/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/builder-gtk-4-porting-raspi/ | May 14 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/05/2022: Builder GTK 4 Porting and Raspberry Pi Matrix Dashboard | Techrights | May 14 14:58 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software and Openwashing • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164838 | May 14 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Openwashing | Tux Machines | May 14 14:58 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164839 | May 14 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 14 14:58 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164840 | May 14 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 14 14:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▄▅▆▅▄▅▅▂▃▄▅▃▄▄▅▃▅▆▂▃▅▅▄▃▄▂▂▆▄▅▄▅▆▅▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 20.41 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▃▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂▂▃▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 17.60▕ swarm size (avg): 342.63 ⟲ | May 14 14:59 |
| techrights-news | Almost as if Microsoft controls CISA "from the inside. They certainly control the narrative there as CISA rarely mentions Windows or Microsoft, except in a positive context. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/13/cisa-temporarily-removes-cve-2022-26925-known-exploited | May 14 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Temporarily Removes CVE-2022-26925 from Known Exploited Vulnerability Catalog | CISA | May 14 15:30 | |
| techrights-news | This has nothing to do with Linux, but Microsoft-connected sites post garbage like that https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-sysrv-botnet-targets-windows-linux-servers-with-new-exploits/ | May 14 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft: Sysrv botnet targets Windows, Linux servers with new exploits | May 14 15:31 | |
| techrights-news | Cameras should always be covered with tape in ChromeOS. Gulag is a tentacle of US Army/intelligence. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-fixes-chromebook-camera-not-working/ | May 14 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 11 Best Fixes for Chromebook Camera Not Working - Make Tech Easier | May 14 15:32 | |
| techrights-news | Open-source-as-a-service data tech startup scores $210m - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/aiven_funding/ ䷉ Source: theregister | May 14 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Open-source-as-a-service data tech startup scores $210m • The Register | May 14 15:33 | |
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| techrights-news | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164781#comment-33667 | May 14 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Alternative AlmaLinux OS 8.6 Is Now Available for Download, Based on RHEL 8.6 | Tux Machines | May 14 15:35 | |
| techrights-news | AlmaLinux 8.6 Released Less Than 48 Hours After RHEL 8.6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164781#comment-3 | May 14 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Alternative AlmaLinux OS 8.6 Is Now Available for Download, Based on RHEL 8.6 | Tux Machines | May 14 15:35 | |
| techrights-news | How to Easily Upgrade to the Latest Fedora Beta Version ⚓ https://www.makeuseof.com/upgrade-fedora-to-beta-releases/ ䷉ Source: makeuseof | May 14 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Easily Upgrade to the Latest Fedora Beta Version | May 14 15:36 | |
| techrights-news | What CEO Paul Cormier Didn’t Say In His Red Hat Summit Keynote - FOSS Force ⚓ https://fossforce.com/2022/05/what-ceo-paul-cormier-didnt-mention-in-his-red-hat-summit-keynote/ ䷉ Source: fossforce | May 14 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | What CEO Paul Cormier Didn't Say In His Red Hat Summit Keynote - FOSS Force | May 14 15:37 | |
| techrights-news | "Dear OpenBSD users. Is it just me or Lagrange is much less smooth compared to Linux/Windows? I tried to debug myself but the frametime seems quite Ok. IDK, Lagrange it way beyond my skill level. I just know C and some SDL." gemini://station.martinrue.com/ | May 14 15:40 |
| techrights-news | Don't treat me like a human being. Treat other beings how you’d treat me. gemini://cobaltblue.flounder.online/gemlog/2021-07-18.gmi | May 14 15:42 |
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| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164839 | May 14 16:11 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164841 | May 14 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 14 16:11 | |
| bnchs | hey guys | May 14 16:27 |
| bnchs | wanna hear something, windows can't render country flags anything more than just country codes | May 14 16:28 |
| bnchs | because "political" stuff | May 14 16:28 |
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| SomeH4x0r | hi | May 14 16:32 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22051331 | May 14 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/fk1l2wouqey81.jpg created on 2022-05-13 11:54:47.039384 | May 14 16:32 | |
| matey | schestowitz-TR │ now he makes allegations of bots <- maybe to cover adding more of them | May 14 16:32 |
| matey | "damn bots, we wont stand for this! *adds more*" | May 14 16:33 |
| matey | self-driving social media | May 14 16:33 |
| matey | self-driving traffic, driving traffic | May 14 16:34 |
| matey | self-baking cookies-- self-baking owner | May 14 16:34 |
| matey | windows can't render country flags anything more than just country codes <- 816F1465! | May 14 16:36 |
| matey | being afraid of flags as language representation is a whole new level of anal-retentive | May 14 16:37 |
| matey | "should we drop russian language support?" <- some idiots already discussed this i think | May 14 16:37 |
| matey | yeah because they only speak it in russia, dumbfuck | May 14 16:38 |
| bnchs | matey: no the US flag is gonna appear like the US flag in platforms | May 14 16:38 |
| bnchs | but in windows it's gonna be "[US]" | May 14 16:38 |
| matey | lol | May 14 16:38 |
| matey | i got that part | May 14 16:38 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 16:38 |
| matey | its hilarious | May 14 16:38 |
| techrights-news | The fast-aging founder of Linux spoke as shown above (2005); so much has changed since then… http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/self-hosting-torvalds/ | May 14 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Original’ Linus Torvalds on Self-Hosting | Techrights | May 14 16:38 | |
| techrights-news | Sheela (yes, wife of the nontechnical Linux Foundation chief, who equates Microsoft critics with people who kick puppies) has a history working with several companies that are closely connected to Microsoft (not just Bakkt) http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/ | May 14 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights | May 14 16:39 | |
| matey | in the future, the only flags will be [US] and [THEM] | May 14 16:39 |
| MinceR | don't people working in IT inside terrorussia know english anyway? | May 14 16:39 |
| techrights-news | Today’s empirical proof that Twitter is totally faking its relevance and reach/influence, based on “Analytics” of my long-inactive account; the SEC will once again — quite likely as usual — let Musk get away with it, http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/ | May 14 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated ‘Stats’ (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | Techrights | May 14 16:39 | |
| bnchs | matey: they also did the same thing in the timezone selector | May 14 16:39 |
| bnchs | the day-one release of Windows 95 highlighted your timezone in the world map | May 14 16:39 |
| matey | <MinceR> don't people working in IT inside terrorussia know english anyway <- its a highly guarded secret, and putlin denies it | May 14 16:39 |
| MinceR | or is it like hungary where people are too stupid to learn more than 1 language? | May 14 16:39 |
| bnchs | but months after windows 95 released (and a few updates), the feature was removed | May 14 16:40 |
| bnchs | because "political wars" and crap | May 14 16:40 |
| bnchs | and then they removed the world map entirely | May 14 16:41 |
| MinceR | lol | May 14 16:41 |
| matey | foreign as a second language | May 14 16:41 |
| MinceR | did it have borders on it? | May 14 16:41 |
| bnchs | no | May 14 16:42 |
| matey | /me thinks they should do away with flags anyway, in favour of 3d icons | May 14 16:42 |
| matey | mexico can have a little sombrero, canada a moose | May 14 16:43 |
| matey | usa a pickup truck | May 14 16:43 |
| *MinceR thinks we should do away with states entirely, and then flags, borders, coats of arms and such shit can just go away | May 14 16:43 | |
| bnchs | https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/116097 | May 14 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puzzling.stackexchange.com | enigmatic puzzle - 🇷🇴🇹🇩🇷🇴🇹🇩🇷🇴🇹🇩🇷🇴🇷🇴 🇷🇴🇹🇩🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴🇹🇩🇷🇴🇷🇴 - Puzzling Stack Exchange | May 14 16:43 | |
| bnchs | "Note: The above should render as a bunch of flag emoji, which Windows 10 and 11 apparently don't support (!), so here's a screenshot if you want to see it." | May 14 16:43 |
| matey | /me is ultimately with mincer on this | May 14 16:43 |
| matey | though when mincer says he wants to get rid of states, he means physically remove them | May 14 16:44 |
| MinceR | i love those empty hints | May 14 16:44 |
| bnchs | "I am using Windows and Microsoft refuses to implement any country flags emojis in order to avoid political controversies, showing them as two-letter codes instead. So, what I see here is just "ROTDROTDROTDRORO ROTDROROROTDRORO". So, can someone post a screenshot of what it looks like in some other platform?" | May 14 16:44 |
| MinceR | well, i'd settle for global anarchy | May 14 16:44 |
| matey | progress :) | May 14 16:44 |
| MinceR | but the more likely method is human extinction | May 14 16:44 |
| bnchs | sounds like a song | May 14 16:45 |
| bnchs | ROTDRORODTODORODTOTD | May 14 16:45 |
| matey | /me drums on the keyboard | May 14 16:45 |
| MinceR | ah, needed scripts from at least 2 domains to let me reveal them | May 14 16:46 |
| MinceR | revealing hints by highlighting text didn't use enough energy, i guess | May 14 16:46 |
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| matey | they should use rot13 | May 14 16:46 |
| matey | its the nsa standard for hints, cheats and dissidents | May 14 16:47 |
| MinceR | :> | May 14 16:47 |
| activelow | matey: since you asked yesterday, about steam games... with baphometos there won't be steam support | May 14 16:54 |
| activelow | however, i got libsdl1/fbcon and tested this with prboom+ successfully, and there is many other games which libsdl1/fbcon suffices for | May 14 16:54 |
| boldc___ | MS wants a world under only one flag the ms logo flag | May 14 16:55 |
| matey | ha | May 14 16:56 |
| matey | they should just change the logo to [MS] | May 14 16:57 |
| matey | with a dollar sign | May 14 16:57 |
| bnchs | fuck [WH][IN][NE][PO][OH] | May 14 16:57 |
| bnchs | who lives in [ZH] | May 14 16:57 |
| matey | as long as theyre using letters, they could switch from country codes to language codes | May 14 16:58 |
| matey | which would make a fuck of a lot more sense | May 14 16:58 |
| matey | but for a keyboard layout a country code is still what youd need i guess | May 14 16:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▃▅▅▅▅▅▇▇▅▄▅▄▅▁▄▅▁▅▂▄▅▁▂▁▅▅▆▅▁▄▅▂▅▆▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 21.28 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂█▁▁▁▁▁██▂▁▂▁█▁▁▂▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 43.36▕ swarm size (avg): 364.06 ⟲ | May 14 16:59 |
| matey | which continent is dvorak on? | May 14 16:59 |
| matey | it sounds european | May 14 16:59 |
| matey | utf is obviously in the middle east | May 14 17:00 |
| matey | though when we make first contact, unicode is going to get a lot messier | May 14 17:00 |
| matey | the good news is harfbuzz will finally be obsolete | May 14 17:01 |
| boldc___ | utf can be considered sexual harassment | May 14 17:02 |
| matey | it doesnt support 4 dimensional grammatical structures | May 14 17:02 |
| matey | unicode sometimes falls under the category of unwanted textual (technological) advances | May 14 17:03 |
| MinceR | for unicode, use a globe | May 14 17:03 |
| MinceR | but viewed such that east asia is not visible | May 14 17:04 |
| MinceR | (due to Han unification) | May 14 17:04 |
| bnchs | btw microsoft will not implement this | May 14 17:04 |
| matey | lol | May 14 17:04 |
| bnchs | because politically they cannot | May 14 17:04 |
| bnchs | what if utf goes in war against dvorak | May 14 17:04 |
| matey | free software: wait, we can make computing NOT STUPID! | May 14 17:04 |
| matey | industry: hold my beer! | May 14 17:05 |
| matey | the leader of a monarchy is a monarch, the leader of a dictatorship is a dictator, and the leader of a country is a | May 14 17:07 |
| matey | you know the dumbest thing about stallmans solution to genderless grammatical ambiguity? (singular they) | May 14 17:08 |
| matey | its ambiguous | May 14 17:08 |
| matey | wtf happens to the phrase "per person" | May 14 17:08 |
| matey | but i suppose he would call that an acceptable loss | May 14 17:09 |
| matey | which is funny, because "acceptable loss" is pretty much what most people think about the ambiguity of singular they | May 14 17:09 |
| boldc___ | a genderless is a eunuch? | May 14 17:10 |
| matey | as theyve been using it for hundreds of years already | May 14 17:10 |
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| boldc___ | why dont animals have gender? | May 14 17:12 |
| boldc___ | or have they? | May 14 17:12 |
| boldc___ | i find that utterly offensive | May 14 17:13 |
| MinceR | i find your finding to be utterly offensive | May 14 17:13 |
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| boldc___ | sorry if fact don't fit your feelings | May 14 17:14 |
| SomeH4x0r | they do have gender roles, so I guess they do | May 14 17:15 |
| boldc___ | we are talking about language ? | May 14 17:17 |
| SomeH4x0r | oh | May 14 17:17 |
| SomeH4x0r | some people do use gender when referring to certain animals, the ones they do care about personally, or something | May 14 17:18 |
| SomeH4x0r | or when the gender is relevant for the discussed topic | May 14 17:18 |
| matey | (no | May 14 17:23 |
| boldc___ | if someone call my pet a thing im going to court for harrassement | May 14 17:23 |
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| matey | (no | May 14 17:24 |
| matey | (no | May 14 17:25 |
| MinceR | oh, now facts started to matter, suddenly? :> | May 14 17:25 |
| matey | ... | May 14 17:25 |
| MinceR | (to boldc___, that is) | May 14 17:25 |
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| boldc___ | ill be famous get lots of social media attentions lots of likes and haters and ill be | May 14 17:26 |
| matey | lol | May 14 17:26 |
| matey | it didnt work | May 14 17:26 |
| boldc___ | forcing the law hand to make a new law hopefully with my name on it | May 14 17:26 |
| boldc___ | whats not ot like? | May 14 17:27 |
| boldc___ | its like having your ego boosted to level 100 instantlly | May 14 17:29 |
| boldc___ | onde social gameing platform | May 14 17:30 |
| boldc___ | on the social gaming platforms | May 14 17:31 |
| boldc___ | i bet in the very least i will get free pet food foe ever | May 14 17:34 |
| boldc___ | https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Classic-Japanese-audio-brand-Onkyo-files-for-bankruptcy | May 14 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-asia.nikkei.com | Classic Japanese audio brand Onkyo files for bankruptcy - Nikkei Asia | May 14 17:35 | |
| boldc___ | another one bites the dust | May 14 17:35 |
| bnchs | ego increased to 100 | May 14 17:36 |
| bnchs | Level Progress <#############> 101 | May 14 17:36 |
| boldc___ | how did you do that? | May 14 17:37 |
| boldc___ | thats cheating | May 14 17:37 |
| bnchs | grindset | May 14 17:38 |
| boldc___ | you must be using baphometos | May 14 17:41 |
| boldc___ | https://www.extremetech.com/computing/53082-onkyo-embeds-linux-in-your-living-room | May 14 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Onkyo Embeds Linux in Your Living Room - ExtremeTech | May 14 17:47 | |
| boldc___ | https://www.zdnet.com/article/white-house-joins-openssf-and-the-linux-foundation-in-securing-open-source-software/ | May 14 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-White House joins OpenSSF and the Linux Foundation in securing open-source software | ZDNet | May 14 17:51 | |
| boldc___ | point 4 Memory Safety: Eliminate root causes of many vulnerabilities through the replacement of non-memory-safe languages. | May 14 17:52 |
| boldc___ | RUST FTW | May 14 17:52 |
| MinceR | snake oil | May 14 17:53 |
| activelow | "memory safe language"... it is the kernel/hardware-mmu/compiler which provide memory protection, NOT the "language"!!!! | May 14 18:14 |
| bnchs | activelow, true | May 14 18:14 |
| bnchs | the kernel cleans up the memory | May 14 18:15 |
| activelow | and, see for yourself, gentoo.org web-site, security advisoris of all browsers with their "memory safety" are labeled dark red vulnerable | May 14 18:16 |
| activelow | so, what is this? | May 14 18:16 |
| bnchs | memory leaks are very bad | May 14 18:16 |
| bnchs | IF the program is intended to run endlessly | May 14 18:16 |
| activelow | sure | May 14 18:17 |
| bnchs | if you're making some kind of unix shell program, then memory safety is useless as long as the kernel can clean up your used memory | May 14 18:17 |
| bnchs | but really you should free memory anyway | May 14 18:19 |
| bnchs | because sometimes the kernel doesn't know how to clean up your used memory, and the memory leak may accumlate | May 14 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/were-used-to-sanctions-lavrov-says-west-has-declared-total-hybrid-war-on-russia-news ""We’re used to sanctions" Lavrov says West has declared "total hybrid war" on Russia" | May 14 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | May 14 18:22 | |
| XRevan86 | Good luck with that. | May 14 18:22 |
| boldc___ | https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/335539-ice-found-to-operate-as-a-domestic-spy-agency | May 14 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ICE Found Effectively Operating as Domestic Spy Agency - ExtremeTech | May 14 18:24 | |
| XRevan86 | The Russian economy is going to shrink and continue shrinking practically indefinitely, and… "we're used to sanctions". | May 14 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | https://interfax.ru/world/840837 https://t.me/mod_russia/15739 This should be addressed in the English-speaking space. | May 14 18:27 |
| techrights-news | 2022-05-14 Untitled webcomic: Kid gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/comic/kidding.png | May 14 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.interfax.ru/world/840837 ) | May 14 18:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @mod_russia | May 14 18:27 | |
| XRevan86 | Oh, DaemonFC is not online. He would've liked to see how full of detail this report is. | May 14 18:27 |
| techrights-news | Gemini Radio - Episode 41 gemini://kwiecien.us/gemcast/20220514.gmi | May 14 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/russian-forces-destroy-pontoon-bridge-over-siversky-donets-river-russian-defence-ministry-claims-experts-earlier-reported-huge-losses-among-russian-troops-in-this-area-news "Russian forces destroy pontoon bridge over Siversky Donets River, Russian Defence Ministry claims. Experts earlier reported huge losses among Russian troops in this area" | May 14 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | May 14 18:31 | |
| XRevan86 | timely | May 14 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | This does look like a real operation (different place, different bridge), except that there is no evidence of any person or vehicle anywhere near the bridge when it was under attack. | May 14 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | (it is very plausible that the Ukrainian forces are also trying to cross Sieversky Donets) | May 14 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | So I think that they wrote about this, and potentially fabricated the details, to paint a picture that it is not only Russia that is suffering losses there. I don't think this will work though. | May 14 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | And of course there was no mention of the yesterday's (it wasn't ereyesterday, I was wrong because it was early and felt like a different day, sorry) huge loss. | May 14 18:36 |
| *psydroid2 has got the Russian version of Doom 3 working with dhewm3 | May 14 18:38 | |
| psydroid2 | now this will do a lot for improving my Russian, because there is no other option but to learn to understand what everything means | May 14 18:38 |
| matey | <XRevan86> So I think that they wrote about this, and potentially fabricated the details, to paint a picture that it is not only Russia that is suffering losses there. I don't think this will work though. | May 14 18:42 |
| matey | this is pretty confusing | May 14 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I'm relying on the context that DaemonFC has provided here earlier. | May 14 18:42 |
| matey | who is fabricating? and who is it supposed to look like theyre suffering? | May 14 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, I mislinked above, this should've been the first link: https://interfax.ru/world/840828 | May 14 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://interfax.ru/world/840828 ) | May 14 18:44 | |
| XRevan86 | crap, * https://www.interfax.ru/world/840837 | May 14 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | I confused myself. | May 14 18:45 |
| matey | wwii started when germany was TRYING to make it look like poland was attacking | May 14 18:45 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, here's the video from the Russian Ministry of Defence: https://vk.com/video-133441491_456258909 | May 14 18:45 |
| matey | by basically provoking them | May 14 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-?????? ????? ????? ? ???????.. ? Video | VK | May 14 18:45 | |
| matey | there was a memo on the way to tell them to withdraw or something along those lines | May 14 18:46 |
| matey | they didnt get it, and it turned into... i mean they wanted a war either way | May 14 18:46 |
| matey | only they wanted to make it look like poland was the aggressor, not them, and thats what they fucked up (it was a sham anyway) | May 14 18:46 |
| matey | how this relates to the present situation at all, i couldnt be sure, since im really not entirely clear whats going on in the first place | May 14 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | matey: So yesterday Russian forces were attacked while they were traversing the river on a pontoon bridge, there were huge losses, tanks, people, everything. | May 14 18:47 |
| matey | ok | May 14 18:47 |
| matey | oh and they fabricated ukranian losses to save face? | May 14 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Today the Ministry of War provides this video and claims that Ukraine tried to cross the same river and they destroyed the bridge, captured the vehicles that did cross the river. | May 14 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | Appears to be a different event, as the landscape is different. | May 14 18:49 |
| matey | who would that be meant to fool? certainly not the ukranian military | May 14 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | The yesterday's event is completely unaddressed. | May 14 18:49 |
| matey | (im guessing the target of the deception by russia is russias own people) | May 14 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | So it's open to interpretation whom they actually captured and in what numbers. | May 14 18:50 |
| XRevan86 | matey: "(im guessing the target of the deception by russia is russias own people)" <- Well, naturally. | May 14 18:51 |
| XRevan86 | It's also an interesting example of how Russia and Ukraine report their successes. | May 14 18:52 |
| matey | ok | May 14 18:52 |
| matey | yeah | May 14 18:52 |
| techrights-news | "Somehow, I blindly accepted the Fedora prompt asking me to upgrade to Fedora 28, not realizing that: Fedora is now at release 36, not 28" https://anarc.at/blog/2022-05-13-nvme-disk-failure/ | May 14 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | NVMe/SSD disk failure - anarcat | May 14 18:53 | |
| techrights-news | "I'm not a fan of BTRFS. This page serves as a reminder of why, but also a cheat sheet to figure out basic tasks in a BTRFS environment because those are not obvious to me, even after repeatedly having to deal with them. Content warning: there might be mentions of ZFS." https://anarc.at/blog/2022-05-13-brtfs-notes/ | May 14 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | BTRFS notes - anarcat | May 14 18:53 | |
| techrights-news | mintCast: "First up in the news: Linux crosses the C; We look into Steam; Flatpak improves; Gnome gets more customizable." https://mintcast.org/2022/05/14/382-kernel-metamorphosis/ | May 14 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | 382 – Kernel Metamorphosis – mintCast | May 14 18:56 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164842 | May 14 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 14 18:56 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▁▅▂▃▆▄▄▄▃▄▄▂▂▃▄▂▄▅▄▄▅▂▃▅▃▅▃▅▆▅▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 17.80 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 7.46▕ swarm size (avg): 333.18 ⟲ | May 14 18:59 |
| techrights-news | "Modern Unix derivatives have this really bad idea called ioctl. It’s a function which performs arbitrary operations on a file descriptor. It is essentially the kitchen sink of modern Unix derivatives, particularly Linux, in which they act almost like a second set of extra syscalls" https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/14/generating-ioctls.html | May 14 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | A Hare code generator for finding ioctl numbers | May 14 18:59 | |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1525534611220094977 | May 14 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Putin-linked Kremlin propagandist explains the mystery behind the claim that Russia is fighting Nazism in Ukraine: they're actually battling "Russophobia"—supposedly "a type of Nazism." By that twisted logic, Russia would consider invading any country opposing Russian aggression." | nitter | May 14 18:59 | |
| techrights-news | #43 Foundation News - This Week in GNOME • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164843 | May 14 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | #43 Foundation News - This Week in GNOME | Tux Machines | May 14 19:00 | |
| XRevan86 | So that's what Nazism is: disagreement with Russia. | May 14 19:01 |
| MinceR | i see lavrov doesn't understand what a declaration of war is | May 14 19:01 |
| MinceR | maybe vladolf should replace him with someone who does | May 14 19:02 |
| techrights-news | "I want to personally extend my gratitude to the Commercial users of Qt for beta testing Qt 5.15.4 for the rest of us." https://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-kde-qt5-patch-collection-has-been.html | May 14 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tsdgeos.blogspot.com | TSDgeos' blog: The KDE Qt5 Patch Collection has been rebased on top of Qt 5.15.4 | May 14 19:02 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He claims "hybrid war", which is a type of war that might not even be visible :) | May 14 19:02 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu Linux the number one Linux distro for gaming? Every time less - ItsFOSS | GNU | Linux | Freesw.net ⚓ https://www.itsfoss.net/ubuntu-linux-the-number-one-linux-distro-for-gaming-every-time-less/ ䷉ Source: itsfoss | May 14 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Linux the number one Linux distro for gaming? Every time less - itsfoss.net | May 14 19:03 | |
| XRevan86 | Welcome to World Hybrid War I | May 14 19:03 |
| techrights-news | Building Plasma for KDE Frameworks 6 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164844 | May 14 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Building Plasma for KDE Frameworks 6 | Tux Machines | May 14 19:03 | |
| XRevan86 | Not very impressive. | May 14 19:03 |
| techrights-news | KDE Frameworks 5.94.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164836#comment-33668 | May 14 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.94 Released with More Than 200 Changes, Here's What's New | Tux Machines | May 14 19:04 | |
| XRevan86 | Would be funny if they actually take that term that I coined ironically. | May 14 19:04 |
| techrights-news | 10 Fun Free and Open Source Simulation Games • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164845 | May 14 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Fun Free and Open Source Simulation Games | Tux Machines | May 14 19:06 | |
| XRevan86 | But it's just one step from "total hybrid war" that Lavrov coined. | May 14 19:07 |
| XRevan86 | That's a pretty interesting way of putting "everyone's shitting on Russia". | May 14 19:08 |
| XRevan86 | everyone == total; shitting == war; hybrid == not actually war | May 14 19:09 |
| matey | it reminds me of the usa saying they would justify physical military force in response to cyberattacks | May 14 19:11 |
| matey | the trouble being, how can you possibly prove there was a cyberattack | May 14 19:11 |
| matey | i mean suppose i go over to the circuit breakers and cut off my power and/or gas | May 14 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | Even so, it's a huge escalation that's hard to justify. | May 14 19:13 |
| MinceR | "hybrid" == "i don't want to say what it actually is" | May 14 19:13 |
| matey | then go and shoot someone for "attacking my infrastructure" | May 14 19:13 |
| MinceR | "hybrid kernel" == "i don't want to say it's a monolithic kernel" | May 14 19:13 |
| matey | that wouldnt hold up in any court | May 14 19:13 |
| MinceR | "hybrid regime" == "i don't want to say it's a dictatorship" | May 14 19:13 |
| matey | hybrid news | May 14 19:13 |
| MinceR | "hybrid war" == "i don't want to say it's not a war" | May 14 19:13 |
| matey | dont mention the hybrid war | May 14 19:14 |
| matey | i mentioned it once but i think i got away with it | May 14 19:15 |
| matey | "would you please stop mentioning the war?" "what are you talking about? youre the one who started it" "no we didnt" "yes you did, you invaded kiev!" | May 14 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I can't tell if this is about 1941 or 2022. | May 14 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | A little more context please? | May 14 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | More likely to be 1941 since the contemporary occupation of Kiew failed to occur. | May 14 19:18 |
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| chicksahoy | isn't it Kyiv and not Kiev | May 14 19:19 |
| XRevan86 | Depends on whether it's transliteration or transcription, and on which language and which time period. | May 14 19:20 |
| chicksahoy | Ukraine calls it Kyiv, Russia calls it Kiev | May 14 19:21 |
| chicksahoy | fuck Russia | May 14 19:21 |
| MinceR | it's Kyiv in Ukrainian | May 14 19:21 |
| XRevan86 | The historical name is "Kyev", the contemporary Ukrainian spelling is "Kyiv" (actually "Kyyiv"), the contemporary Russian spelling is "Kiev" (actually "Kiyev"), the contemporary Russian pronunciation is "Kiyiv" (well, "Kiyif"). | May 14 19:21 |
| MinceR | orcs pretend they own it and call it Kiev | May 14 19:21 |
| XRevan86 | the Polish spelling is "Kiew" | May 14 19:22 |
| matey | <XRevan86> matey: I can't tell if this is about 1941 or 2022. <- fawlty towers didnt make it to russia, at least not in your time | May 14 19:22 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164846 | May 14 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 14 19:22 | |
| matey | it was john cleese, with a concussion, arguing with a family of germans about the war | May 14 19:22 |
| XRevan86 | Also because it's a vowel reduction, in other cases there's a difference: to be in Kiew in Ukrainian would be "w Kyyevi" | May 14 19:22 |
| matey | in the 70s (the plot) | May 14 19:22 |
| matey | so kyiv then | May 14 19:23 |
| matey | theres only one reason i spell it kiev, and it isnt political | May 14 19:23 |
| matey | in the west, its how the chicken is usually spelled (for most of my lifetime) | May 14 19:23 |
| matey | its a dish, chicken kiev. i think. | May 14 19:23 |
| XRevan86 | I dislike pronunciation quirks seeping into loanwords, that's my only reason against "Kyiv". | May 14 19:24 |
| matey | so its only a force of habit, not a political statement | May 14 19:24 |
| matey | well what do you recommend as a ukranian spelling then? | May 14 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | English is not phonetic, and it is phonetically very distinct. | May 14 19:24 |
| matey | im sort of impartial here | May 14 19:24 |
| matey | english has no rules, but it does make up a few | May 14 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | "Kyev" is the most faithful spelling. | May 14 19:24 |
| matey | and how does it sit with ukranians? | May 14 19:25 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Too nerdy. | May 14 19:25 |
| matey | ill think about it | May 14 19:25 |
| matey | anyway, thanks for keeping us informed | May 14 19:25 |
| matey | cheers | May 14 19:25 |
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| XRevan86 | I'm somewhat interested in phonology, so my perspective on this is different from… well, everyone else's. | May 14 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | To me a loanword into English should fit best into the English context, not the context of the source. | May 14 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | And usually the most conservative eldest form of spelling/pronunciation is the best fit, as languages tend to diverge. | May 14 19:28 |
| XRevan86 | Odds are Ukrainian pronunciation may change again (as happens with every language), and what then, re-loan the new version every time? | May 14 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | But I do recognise the political reasoning, and that's something I cannot go against. | May 14 19:30 |
| techrights-news | Openwashing nonsense https://opensource.com/article/22/5/b-corp-open-source | May 14 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 reasons to apply for B Corp certification | Opensource.com | May 14 19:37 | |
| MinceR | 14 202211 < XRevan86> the Polish spelling is "Kiew" | May 14 19:41 |
| MinceR | i thought it was Kiów | May 14 19:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh, they jo'd it? I forgot in that case. | May 14 19:41 |
| MinceR | or something like that | May 14 19:41 |
| techrights-news | "We are back to a quick pace and reached 2800 games soon after the 2700 games milestone." https://boilingsteam.com/2800-games-steam-deck/ | May 14 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | 2800 Games On The Steam Deck with Days Gone and House of the Dying Sun as Verified - Boiling Steam | May 14 19:42 | |
| MinceR | no, it's Kijów | May 14 19:42 |
| techrights-news | It's FOSS is foolishly promoting PROPRIETARY Microsoft PROXY "DuckDuckGo" https://itsfoss.com/duckduckgo-easter-eggs/ Avoid this nasty, lying company: http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo | May 14 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | Hidden Features! 25 Fun Things You Can Do With DuckDuckGo Search Engine - It's FOSS | May 14 19:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - Techrights | May 14 19:42 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: je→jo is a common Slavic phonetic change, right. And o→u is a Polish specific one. | May 14 19:43 |
| MinceR | pronounced /ˈki.juf/ | May 14 19:43 |
| techrights-news | They hardly test, they just release very often and make it impssible to fork/avoid https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-251-rc3 | May 14 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd 251 Nears Release With Last Planned Test - Phoronix | May 14 19:43 | |
| XRevan86 | https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przeg%C5%82os_lechicki no English article, bummer | May 14 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pl.wikipedia.org | Przegłos lechicki – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia | May 14 19:45 | |
| techrights-news | Shortwave 3 expands radio station setups http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164643#comment-33669 | May 14 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shortwave 3.0 Free Radio Player Comes with Support for GNOME 42 | Tux Machines | May 14 19:46 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Киевъ#Old_East_Slavic source | May 14 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Киевъ - Wiktionary | May 14 19:48 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's kind of why pronetic changes are a mess to re-loan. | May 14 19:51 |
| XRevan86 | But Polish spelling froze up on the second iteration anyway I guess. | May 14 19:51 |
| techrights-news | f2fscrypt utility compiled statically in OE ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202205/f2fscrypt-utility-compiled-statically-in-oe.html ䷉ Source: bkhome | May 14 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | f2fscrypt utility compiled statically in OE | May 14 19:52 | |
| XRevan86 | I wonder where Latin got its Kiov. | May 14 19:52 |
| techrights-news | Friday’s Fedora Facts: 2022-19 – Fedora Community [sic] Blog ⚓ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-19/ ䷉ Source: ICBM | May 14 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-19 – Fedora Community Blog | May 14 19:52 | |
| techrights-news | They call it "OpenJPEG" but OUTSOURCE to PROPRIETARY and Microsoft... what does "Open" mean??? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenJPEG-2.5-Brings-HTJ2K | May 14 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenJPEG 2.5 Released With High Throughput JPEG 2000 Decoding (HTJ2K) - Phoronix | May 14 19:54 | |
| techrights-news | radeonsi: scale the number of shader compiler threads https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=e549b6fe42c45efa6e2625cef7c328cb6a6a4319 | May 14 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) | May 14 19:55 | |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22051228 | May 14 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/dn0qxox0oly81.jpg created on 2022-05-12 09:15:12.293360 | May 14 20:04 | |
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| techrights-news | nbdkit now supports LUKS encryption • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164847 | May 14 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | nbdkit now supports LUKS encryption | Tux Machines | May 14 20:07 | |
| techrights-news | Smart Farm with Raspberry PI, RPI Pico and WIZnet Ethernet Hat • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164848 | May 14 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Smart Farm with Raspberry PI, RPI Pico and WIZnet Ethernet Hat | Tux Machines | May 14 20:13 | |
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| techrights-news | Ole Aamot: Voice • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164849 | May 14 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ole Aamot: Voice | Tux Machines | May 14 20:15 | |
| techrights-news | My Brother Brandon gemini://rooster.smol.pub/brandon | May 14 20:20 |
| techrights-news | "Bad. It's going pretty bad. Work is exhausting. Mondays and Tuesdays generally still work out. Wednesdays fall through and I end up doing multiple garbage runs on Saturday." gemini://okayhousekeeping.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-14.gmi | May 14 20:21 |
| techrights-news | Some Government is Probably Okay I Guess gemini://liberty.smol.pub/some-government-okay-i-guess "There's a subset of people who are comfortable doing what they know is wrong and would oppose as wrong if others did it" | May 14 20:22 |
| techrights-news | Fedora Family / Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164850 | May 14 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Family / Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 14 20:22 | |
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| techrights-news | Learning GIMP a better investment of time https://linuxstoney.com/how-to-use-photoshop-on-ubuntu-and-other-linux/ | May 14 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to use Photoshop on Ubuntu and other Linux? - LinuxStoney | May 14 20:35 | |
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| techrights-news | Distrobox is Awesome • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164851 | May 14 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distrobox is Awesome | Tux Machines | May 14 20:39 | |
| techrights-news | DeaDBeeF 1.9.0 Released! #HowTo install it in Ubuntu 22.04 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164852 | May 14 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DeaDBeeF 1.9.0 Released! How to install it in Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines | May 14 20:39 | |
| techrights-news | Vulnerability in Zyxel firewalls allowing code execution without authentication - LinuxStoney ⚓ https://linuxstoney.com/vulnerability-in-zyxel-firewalls-allowing-code-execution-without-authentication/ ䷉ Source: linuxstoney | May 14 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulnerability in Zyxel firewalls allowing code execution without authentication - LinuxStoney | May 14 20:40 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164853 | May 14 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 14 20:41 | |
| techrights-news | kernel/git/hid/hid.git - HID Group's fork of hid.git ⚓ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=fa33382c7f74a1444f90f324007da1431d7180b2 ䷉ Source: git | May 14 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/hid/hid.git - HID Group's fork of hid.git | May 14 20:41 | |
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| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164854 | May 14 20:44 |
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| techrights-news | TrueNAS 13.0 Released, a Linux OS for creating network storage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164740#comment-33670 | May 14 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Tux Machines | May 14 20:46 | |
| techrights-news | Alt Workstation K 10.0 Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164855 | May 14 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alt Workstation K 10.0 Released | Tux Machines | May 14 20:47 | |
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| techrights-news | Links 14/05/2022: Alt Linux 10.0 Released | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/alt-linux-10-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/alt-linux-10-0/ | May 14 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/05/2022: Alt Linux 10.0 Released | Techrights | May 14 20:52 | |
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| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164856 | May 14 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 14 20:54 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▃▄▂▅▅▆▅▆▆▅▅▄▄▅▅▆▄▅▃▅▅▄▆▄▃▆▅▃█▄▅▅▄▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 33.08 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂█▂▁▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.48▕ swarm size (avg): 384.00 ⟲ | May 14 20:59 |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft makes and distributes its own password stealer https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/14/eternity-project-malware-sale/ see http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/ | May 14 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Shopping for malware: $260 gets you a password stealer... • The Register | May 14 21:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bruce Schneier: Microsoft Edge is Apparently a Password Stealer Too, Even on GNU/Linux | Techrights | May 14 21:05 | |
| techrights-news | Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/02/ukrainian_tractors_deere/ | May 14 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ukrainian John Deere tractors stolen by Russia 'bricked' • The Register | May 14 21:05 | |
| techrights-news | Neither is safe. They even have back doors (PSP/ME) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/intel_amd_security/ | May 14 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | How Intel and AMD hope to win the cloud security game • The Register | May 14 21:07 | |
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| techrights-news | Falklands' inshore waters globally recognized as Key Biodiversity Areas " MercoPress ⚓ https://en.mercopress.com/2022/04/26/falklands-inshore-waters-globally-recognized-as-key-biodiversity-areas ䷉ how UK likes to greenwash the occupation | May 14 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.mercopress.com | Falklands' inshore waters globally recognized as Key Biodiversity Areas — MercoPress | May 14 21:18 | |
| techrights-news | iXsystems Builds on Global Leadership in Open Storage With New TrueNAS Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164740#comment-33673 | May 14 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Tux Machines | May 14 21:18 | |
| boldc___ | rhythmbox has a new release after 2 years | May 14 21:24 |
| boldc___ | its a gnome thing | May 14 21:25 |
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| boldc___ | ChangeLog 1.19 MB | May 14 21:27 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4Ar-Gc9eI | May 14 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Jl4Ar-Gc9eI | May 14 21:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.mutahar.rocks | Rasputin of the Bronx: The Unkillable Iron Mike Malloy - Invidious | May 14 21:31 | |
| schestowitz-TR | boldc___: yes | May 14 21:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | boldc___: url? | May 14 21:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I saw no blog post about that | May 14 21:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | just deadbeef | May 14 21:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | [20:39] <techrights-news> DeaDBeeF 1.9.0 Released! #HowTo install it in Ubuntu 22.04 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164852 | May 14 21:34 |
| boldc___ | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/rhythmbox/-/blob/master/ChangeLog?expanded=true&viewer=simple | May 14 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.gnome.org | ChangeLog · master · GNOME / rhythmbox · GitLab | May 14 21:34 | |
| boldc___ | how can you possibly manage your ipod with out rhythmbox? | May 14 21:36 |
| MinceR | i don't have an ipod | May 14 21:38 |
| MinceR | and not going to have one either | May 14 21:38 |
| boldc___ | deadbeef must be developed by some vegan dev | May 14 21:38 |
| boldc___ | me neither | May 14 21:38 |
| boldc___ | IOS is genom devs dream DE | May 14 21:39 |
| boldc___ | what ipod ever done to you ? | May 14 21:39 |
| MinceR | i never let them do anything to me | May 14 21:40 |
| boldc___ | rhythmbox has remote functionality too | May 14 21:41 |
| boldc___ | daap mpris | May 14 21:41 |
| boldc___ | its a itunes "clone" basically | May 14 21:42 |
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| bnchs | fuck ipods | May 14 21:54 |
| bnchs | you want to listen to music? | May 14 21:54 |
| bnchs | go uhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhh uh fuck | May 14 21:54 |
| bnchs | bring a raspberry pi connected to a battery | May 14 21:55 |
| MinceR | i used to listen to music on a Palm Tungsten E2 | May 14 21:56 |
| techrights-news | No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware https://itwire.com/open-sauce/no-kidding,-microsoft-now-charges-firms-to-tackle-windows-ransomware.html | May 14 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware | May 14 21:57 | |
| MinceR | then on various smartphones | May 14 21:57 |
| techrights-news | Not OUR back doors? https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/us-steps-up-fresh-probe-into-kaspersky-products-report.html | May 14 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - US steps up fresh probe into Kaspersky products: report | May 14 21:57 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: realplayer? | May 14 22:07 |
| techrights-news | Changes in the Site and the Capsule | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/toc-toc/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/toc-toc/ | May 14 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Changes in the Site and the Capsule | Techrights | May 14 22:09 | |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to get palm PDAs to work like in 2022 | May 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | partly because of desktop side sofwtare | May 14 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | jpilot, kpilot, and the Windows equivs | May 14 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and finding the binaries is even harder | May 14 22:10 |
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| techrights-news | Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon shows progress in graphics drivers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164698#comment-33674 | May 14 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Asahi Linux progress in graphics drivers on Apple's M1 | Tux Machines | May 14 22:13 | |
| techrights-news | This repeats false numbers about Twitter's usage https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/ap-online/2022/05/14/as-musk-buyout-looms-twitter-searches-for-its-soul | May 14 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrumlocalnews.com | As Musk buyout looms, Twitter searches for its soul | May 14 22:13 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: no, but i forgot what the audio player was that could continue playing in the background | May 14 22:14 |
| MinceR | iirc pomod could play .mod files, but only in the foreground | May 14 22:14 |
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| MinceR | 14 230956 < schestowitz-TR> it's hard to get palm PDAs to work like in 2022 | May 14 22:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, bricks are like that | May 14 22:14 |
| techrights-news | Arm wrests back control of its rogue China limb - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/arm_china_ceo_ousted/ ䷉ Source: theregister | May 14 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Arm wrests back control of its rogue China limb • The Register | May 14 22:14 | |
| MinceR | maybe it can still show a palm logo and a blinking rectangle under it | May 14 22:14 |
| techrights-news | Arm says microcontroller price hikes helped fuel sales - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/arm_results_ipo/ ䷉ Source: theregister | May 14 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Arm says microcontroller price hikes helped fuel sales • The Register | May 14 22:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: apple did not even have pseudo-multitasking years later | May 14 22:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | iphone was the REAL brick | May 14 22:15 |
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| schestowitz-TR | with no REALPlayer | May 14 22:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | May 14 22:15 |
| MinceR | MICROS~1 had it for a while, then they decided they've got to copy crApple and came up with an OS that didn't have it, iirc | May 14 22:16 |
| techrights-news | It got ugly at ARM https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/03/arm_china_staff_protest/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/arm_china_ceo_stays/ | May 14 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Arm China staff protest new management • The Register | May 14 22:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Arm China CEO refuses to go despite SoftBank taking control • The Register | May 14 22:16 | |
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| techrights-news | HAHAHAHAHAHA! "alternative cryptocurrency projects (altcoins) are but an experiment, while Bitcoin is the only tried and tested peer-to-peer digital money." What do you mean, "alternative cryptocurrency"? You claim to be the alternative to real currency. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/terra-collapse-teaches-about-crypto-and-bitcoin | May 14 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitcoinmagazine.com | Terra Collapse Teaches About ‘Crypto’ And Bitcoin - Bitcoin Magazine: Bitcoin News, Articles, Charts, and Guides | May 14 22:18 | |
| techrights-news | Go away, Gulag. Stop stealing data. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/google_eu_sovereign/ | May 14 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google goes after sovereignty market with EU Workspace Data • The Register | May 14 22:19 | |
| techrights-news | Crackpot measuring servers only if they are pabeled "CLOWN" and counting "REVENUE" (likely faked) instead of ACTUAL share. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/02/cloud_market_share_q1_2022/ | May 14 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | AWS, Google and Microsoft dominate cloud • The Register | May 14 22:21 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Azure = layoffs and datacentre closures. | May 14 22:21 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft revenue: bailouts from Trump and Biden. IOW, stealing from the US treasury. Corruption in politics. | May 14 22:22 |
| techrights-news | But most computers do not use x86. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/amd_intel_x86/ | May 14 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | AMD approaches '30%' x86 CPU market share • The Register | May 14 22:23 | |
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| psydroid2 | 30 billion ARM chips in the past year, all conveniently ignored for AMD's biggest x86 marketshare ever | May 14 22:25 |
| techrights-news | "There's tons of terminal apps with color nowadays but no consistent standard for disabling that color in the many cases where it isn't needed, NO_COLOR aims to fix that." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=svLA3yJQnlM | May 14 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | This Is A Growing Standard To Disable Terminal Color - Invidious | May 14 22:27 | |
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| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164857 | May 14 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 14 22:29 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164858 | May 14 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 14 22:32 | |
| techrights-news | A 10-minute explanation of what we’ve been up to lately and what’s changing; hopefully I’ll have a lot more free time in months to come and we’ll be able to produce about a dozen posts per day http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/toc-toc/ | May 14 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Changes in the Site and the Capsule | Techrights | May 14 22:32 | |
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| techrights-news | Crosswords 0.3 by Jonathan Blandford • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164859 | May 14 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crosswords 0.3 by Jonathan Blandford | Tux Machines | May 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: yes, the usual slant | May 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | like counting "Share" by revenue | May 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make GNU/Linux seem small | May 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and relying on companies reporting on money | May 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course they fake it | May 14 22:37 |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft keeps transmitting malware https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/npm-attacks-code-white-jfrog/ | May 14 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Mystery of industry-focused backdoored NPM packages solved • The Register | May 14 22:44 | |
| psydroid2 | someone I know told me that he migrated several Postgres databases in the AWS clown to Graviton a few days ago and that expenses were multiple times lower now | May 14 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | still paying amazon | May 14 22:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the databases do not comply with rules except the ones GAFAM lobbied for | May 14 22:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | because "outsourcing to US Army" = security | May 14 22:48 |
| psydroid2 | that's true, but I didn't ask about his employer's reasons for doing things in the clown | May 14 22:49 |
| psydroid2 | he did tell me he plans to migrate everything at home to ARM as well | May 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the clown is ripoff | May 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not now, then later | May 14 22:50 |
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| techrights-news | ICBM transatlantic https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/mayflower_autonomous_ship/ | May 14 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IBM's autonomous Mayflower ship breaks down again • The Register | May 14 22:53 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▅▅▆▆▆▆▆▆▅▄▅▆▄▅▅▆▇▇▆▅▅▇▆▄▆▇▆▅▇▆▅▇▁ avg(k/sec) 31.00 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.80▕ swarm size (avg): 386.71 ⟲ | May 14 22:59 |
| boldc___ | https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting/index.html | May 14 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Live updates: Mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket | May 14 23:04 | |
| boldc___ | too bad donald trump wasnt there to stop the shooter | May 14 23:05 |
| bnchs | "gonna shoot up a supermarket" | May 14 23:06 |
| bnchs | *a helicopter approaches the shooter* | May 14 23:07 |
| bnchs | *donald trump comes out* | May 14 23:07 |
| bnchs | "no you shall not" | May 14 23:07 |
| bnchs | "understandable" | May 14 23:07 |
| bnchs | then everyone clapped that day | May 14 23:07 |
| boldc___ | i remenber him say after a shooting that if it was him there he would oppose the shooter even if he was unarmed | May 14 23:08 |
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| boldc___ | a true american hero | May 14 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | https://gajim.org/post/2022-05-11-gajim-1.4.0-released/ | May 14 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gajim.org | Gajim 1.4.0 - Gajim | May 14 23:15 | |
| bnchs | nice | May 14 23:16 |
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| XRevan86 | A huge release, I will try it out. | May 14 23:17 |
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| bnchs | XRevan86, whats your XMPP | May 14 23:17 |
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| DaemonFC | People are moving over to AMD due to cost, performance by watt, compatibility, and the fact that it's less of a piece of shit than Intel. | May 14 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Intel keeps sabotaging things after they sell them. | May 14 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | They design them to be fast but insecure, pay people to benchmark them, sell the CPUs based on those benchmarks, and then release the updates that close the holes at the cost of 40% of your CPU performance. | May 14 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Judas GAFAM praises them for it, repeatedly. "TPM, EFI, etc." | May 14 23:31 |
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| DaemonFC | It's like his buddy Miguel said at his 1997 Microsoft interview (the one at which he was not hired), "You should open source Internet Explorer and let other people fix it for you for free!". Maybe it was simple naivete or something. Who knows? Microsoft didn't care if it crashed, they didn't care if it automatically installed malware because you visited a website or loaded some email, what they cared about was jamming their own non-standards | May 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | into it and then making it impossible for anyone else to figure out how it worked. | May 14 23:33 |
| psydruid | I will get a few of those RK3588 boards next year and see how much software I can get to run on them | May 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | And if you open source it, maybe people fix your bugs, but you also can't hide how your anti-competitive shit works. | May 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | So on the whole, they didn't open source it because it would have harmed them more than it helped. | May 14 23:34 |
| psydruid | I think each and every proprietary game should be reverse engineered and made to run everywhere to kill the stranglehold Intel and AMD have over the desktop | May 14 23:35 |
| psydruid | And then they can die for all I care | May 14 23:35 |
| bnchs | psydruid, game engines? | May 14 23:36 |
| psydruid | bnchs, everything needed for running them, if that is just the game engines I am also fine with it | May 14 23:37 |
| bnchs | i mean there's only been like reverse engineering of GTA 3/VC, GoldSrc-based games, morrowwind, and other crap | May 14 23:37 |
| psydruid | I compiled dhewm3 earlier today and now I have it running on my laptop | May 14 23:37 |
| bnchs | the problem is that some of them are suffering legal problems | May 14 23:38 |
| psydruid | I don't know when I'll have the time to play it but I know it works at least | May 14 23:38 |
| bnchs | like FWGS Xash3D | May 14 23:38 |
| psydruid | they are suffering problems also by being based on Github | May 14 23:38 |
| bnchs | some of their header files are illegally copied from Valve's SDK | May 14 23:39 |
| bnchs | which is incompatible with their GPL license | May 14 23:39 |
| bnchs | so they're hoping they don't get sued to death by Valve | May 14 23:39 |
| psydruid | and yes, it is not the ultimate solution | May 14 23:39 |
| psydruid | the real solution would be writing free games with free assets | May 14 23:40 |
| psydruid | we'll see how that develops | May 14 23:40 |
| *boldc___ runs off to install quake3arena | May 14 23:40 | |
| bnchs | https://github.com/gtamodding/re3 | May 14 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 451 @ https://github.com/gtamodding/re3 ) | May 14 23:40 | |
| bnchs | 451 = down for legal reasons | May 14 23:41 |
| bnchs | they already got sued by rockstar | May 14 23:41 |
| bnchs | i guess | May 14 23:41 |
| psydruid | I have that code on my laptop | May 14 23:41 |
| psydruid | I checked it out before it was taken down | May 14 23:42 |
| bnchs | https://github.com/FWGS/xash3d-fwgs/issues/63 | May 14 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-License issues · Issue #63 · FWGS/xash3d-fwgs · GitHub | May 14 23:42 | |
| bnchs | "The engine is somewhat notorious for making use of leaked source code, and indeed Valve as supposedly remarked that the engine as it stands is illegal (though I have yet to personally corroborate that.) This is troublesome because I want to use xash3D for a commercial project, so as it currently stands that dream is unworkable. But what if it wasn't?" | May 14 23:42 |
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| bnchs | "The thing is, we can't rewrite them by ourselves, as we already seen the HLSDK and any rewrite attempt may be considered as illegal relicensing of copypasted code." | May 14 23:42 |
| bnchs | Xash3D is at a stand-still | May 14 23:42 |
| bnchs | they're at a dead end | May 14 23:42 |
| boldc___ | rockstar PD is gona swat you psydruid | May 14 23:43 |
| bnchs | it will only be a matter of time before they get sued by valve | May 14 23:43 |
| psydruid | I haven't looked at any of this code or any other proprietary code ever | May 14 23:43 |
| bnchs | they came up with a solution | May 14 23:43 |
| bnchs | "Hiring a lawyers, so they can check if nothing of Valve's IP was leaked." | May 14 23:43 |
| psydruid | sure, they can come and get me | May 14 23:43 |
| bnchs | "Hiring a programmer to write headers based on our documentation and asking for a agreement that he or she doesn't even seen Half-Life code and will not copy code from SDK." | May 14 23:44 |
| bnchs | this would probably save them | May 14 23:44 |
| bnchs | but unfortunately they haven't applied it yet | May 14 23:45 |
| bnchs | and the illegal header files are still in the codebase | May 14 23:45 |
| boldc___ | make a VR version | May 14 23:46 |
| boldc___ | arent modern opensource game engines supposed to be better that valav outdated engine? | May 14 23:49 |
| bnchs | lol they're trying to reverse engineer valve's goldsrc engine | May 14 23:50 |
| psydruid | I have compiled Godot, but I will only be able to take a look at it this summer | May 14 23:50 |
| bnchs | and be more compatible with GoldSrc/Half-Life games | May 14 23:51 |
| psydruid | yeah | May 14 23:51 |
| bnchs | also VR version in your dreams | May 14 23:51 |
| bnchs | reverse engineer the drivers for most VR headsets :P | May 14 23:51 |
| psydruid | I think it's better to get inspiration from games and write new free ones | May 14 23:51 |
| psydruid | instead of going through all this reverse engineering | May 14 23:52 |
| psydruid | unless you want to preserve them for some reason | May 14 23:52 |
| psydruid | OpenHMD makes VR headsets work | May 14 23:53 |
| bnchs | xash3D was intended to preserve goldsrc games | May 14 23:53 |
| bnchs | or help make more goldsrc games | May 14 23:53 |
| psydruid | I met some of the developers at FOSDEM a few years ago | May 14 23:53 |
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| psydruid | > [notice] License issues · Issue #63 · FWGS/xash3d-fwgs · GitHub | May 14 23:59 |
| psydruid | I'm reading this issue and the solution looks really simple to me | May 14 23:59 |
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