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bnchsJHey, it's schestowitz's botsMay 13 00:00
bnchsand well he's the creator and owner of techrightsMay 13 00:00
bnchsyou can /ignore them if you wantMay 13 00:00
techrights-newsNVIDIA open source video drivers for Linux kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748#comment-33644May 13 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux MachinesMay 13 00:00
SkywaveCryostat lmao i recalled Cryostasis the game.May 13 00:03
JHeyNVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines thats yesterdays newsMay 13 00:04
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techrights-newsFormalities Officers Team Managers at Europe’s second-largest institution face a growing list of issues; some are even “considering stepping down,” according to internal documents http://techrights.org/2022/05/12/epo-formalities-officers-team-managers/May 13 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Formalities Officers Team Managers at the European Patent Office Consider Stepping Down | TechrightsMay 13 00:06
techrights-newsSinking quality of European Patents [1, 2], plus a Patent Granting Process that is not compliant with the law, quite likely mean the EPO drives straight into a wall; the Central Staff Committee is still trying to save the institution, but management is uncaring and unresponsive http://techrights.org/2022/05/12/epo-management-trashes-the-epo/May 13 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Central Staff Committee of the EPO Reminds the EPO’s Management, Yet Again, That It is Breaking Laws | TechrightsMay 13 00:06
techrights-newsWe’re meant to think that patents — not sharing — are going to save the world http://techrights.org/2022/05/12/epo-misframing/May 13 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Yes, Minister, Yes! | TechrightsMay 13 00:06
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techrights-newsHarris’s List of Covent-Garden Ladies (1757–1795) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/harris-list-of-covent-garden-ladies/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreviewMay 13 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Harris’s List of Covent-Garden Ladies (1757–1795) – The Public Domain ReviewMay 13 00:12
techrights-news#KeepItOn for peace and democracy in Sudan, Yemen, and Tajikistan ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-for-peace-and-democracy-in-sudan-yemen-and-tajikistan/ ䷉ Source: accessnowMay 13 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | #KeepItOn for peace and democracy in Sudan, Yemen, and TajikistanMay 13 00:13
techrights-newsAlexander in the Bathysphere – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/alexander-bathysphere/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreviewMay 13 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Alexander in the Bathysphere – The Public Domain ReviewMay 13 00:14
techrights-news"Improper Removal of Sensitive Information Before Storage or Transfer, Inadequate Encryption Strength, Missing Authentication for Critical Function, Injection, Improper Input Validation" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-102-04May 13 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric GT25-WLAN (Update A) | CISAMay 13 00:16
techrights-news"The developers of the Rust language warned about the identification of the rustdecimal package in the crates.io repository , which contains malicious code." Outsourcing to Microsoft. Feeling lucky, PUNK? https://linuxstoney.com/malicious-rustdecimal-package-found-in-crates-io-rust-repository/May 13 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Malicious rustdecimal package found in crates.io Rust repository - LinuxStoneyMay 13 00:17
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techrights-newsMassively overhyped. Just don't open malicious files from untrusted sources. This is universally a principle. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-132-03#main-content "Do not click web links or open unsolicited attachments in email messages."May 13 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Inkscape in Industrial Products | CISAMay 13 00:20
techrights-newsClownify the buzzwords? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/practical-solution-cloudify-network-edge-why-containers-white-box-devices-and-sd-wan-are-idealMay 13 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | A practical solution to cloudify the network edge: Why containers, white-box devices and SD-WAN are idealMay 13 00:21
techrights-newsSan Francisco Police Are Using Driverless Cars as Mobile Surveillance Cameras ⚓ https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7dw8x/san-francisco-police-are-using-driverless-cars-as-mobile-surveillance-cameras ䷉ Source: viceMay 13 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | San Francisco Police Are Using Driverless Cars as Mobile Surveillance CamerasMay 13 00:22
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-132-09 "The Tiff_Loader.dll is vulnerable to infinite loop condition while parsing specially crafted TIFF files."May 13 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Siemens JT2GO and Teamcenter Visualization | CISAMay 13 00:23
techrights-newsDistributed platforms vs. “complexity” gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220512_distributed_complexityMay 13 00:25
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techrights-newsMy Name on Mars gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202205/20220512-my-name-on-mars.gmiMay 13 00:26
techrights-news27 Rights Groups Demand Zoom Abandon 'Invasive,' and 'Inherently Biased' Emotion Recognition Software ⚓ https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2022/05/27-rights-groups-demand-zoom-abandon-invasive-and-inherently-biased-emotion-recognition-software/ ䷉ Source: gizmodoMay 13 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | 27 Rights Groups Demand Zoom Abandon 'Invasive,' and 'Inherently Biased' Emotion Recognition SoftwareMay 13 00:28
techrights-newsIt's all about mass manipulation of people and power over people https://www.accessnow.org/elon-musk-twitter-letter/May 13 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Money talks: Twitter’s financial backers must use their power to mitigate risks of Musk takeover - Access NowMay 13 00:29
techrights-newsICBM: "From the first lockdown to today’s slow and strategic reopening, industry conditions have been anything but favorable or predictable. For this reason, leaders should take a targeted approach to managing hybrid work systems." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/hybrid-work-best-practices-times-uncertaintyMay 13 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work: Best practices in times of uncertainty | The Enterprisers ProjectMay 13 00:30
techrights-newsNest with Fedora: Call for proposals and sponsors  - Fedora Community [sic] Blog ⚓ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-2022-cfp/ ䷉ Source: ICBMMay 13 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Nest with Fedora: Call for proposals and sponsors  – Fedora Community BlogMay 13 00:31
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techrights-news[LINUX PATCH 0/2] Add Xilinx DSI-Tx DRM driver - Venkateshwar Rao Gannavarapu ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1652363593-45799-1-git-send-email-venkateshwar.rao.gannavarapu@xilinx.com/ ䷉ Source: xilinxMay 13 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [LINUX PATCH 0/2] Add Xilinx DSI-Tx DRM driver - Venkateshwar Rao GannavarapuMay 13 00:32
techrights-newsThis is not a backdoor. It's something put on already-compromised machines. This is a distraction from actual backdoors and Windows. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/bpfdoor-stealthy-linux-malware-bypasses-firewalls-for-remote-access/May 13 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | BPFdoor: Stealthy Linux malware bypasses firewalls for remote accessMay 13 00:35
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164789May 13 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 00:37
techrights-newsImproved Process Isolation in Firefox 100 - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog ⚓ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/05/improved-process-isolation-in-firefox-100/ ䷉ Source: MozillaMay 13 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Improved Process Isolation in Firefox 100 - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blogMay 13 00:38
techrights-news"Trailing dots on host names in URLs is the gift that keeps on giving. Let me take you through a dwindling story of how the dot is handled differently in different places through the stack of an Internet client. The evil trailing dot." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/12/a-tale-of-a-trailing-dot/May 13 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A tale of a trailing dot | daniel.haxx.seMay 13 00:38
techrights-news"Congratulations to Rust for its first (but not its last) supply-chain attack this week! They join a growing club of broken-by-design package managers which publish packages uploaded by vendors directly" https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/12/Supply-chain-when-will-we-learn.htmlMay 13 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | When will we learn?May 13 00:39
techrights-newshttp://techrights.org/2022/05/12/libreoffice-7-2-7/May 13 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/05/2022: AlmaLinux OS 8.6 and LibreOffice 7.2.7 | TechrightsMay 13 00:45
MinceR(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/6uNTEvK.mp4May 13 00:45
techrights-newsPostgreSQL: PostgreSQL 14.3, 13.7, 12.11, 11.16, and 10.21 Released! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164791May 13 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL 14.3, 13.7, 12.11, 11.16, and 10.21 Released! | Tux MachinesMay 13 00:45
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164790May 13 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 00:46
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164792May 13 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 00:46
techrights-newsLinks 12/05/2022: AlmaLinux OS 8.6 and LibreOffice 7.2.7 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/12/libreoffice-7-2-7/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/12/libreoffice-7-2-7/May 13 00:46
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bnchs"Log in to Gerrit code review. You currently need a Github account for logging in."May 13 00:58
bnchsbruhMay 13 00:58
bnchsno wayMay 13 00:58
bnchsno got-dang wayMay 13 00:58
mateylolMay 13 00:58
bnchsno motherfucking got-dang way i need a GITHUB TO ACCESS A  GERRIT INSTANCEMay 13 00:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▅▃▅▆▄▄▄▄▄▅▄▅▃▂▇▅▅▃▃▄▄▅▄▅▄▅▄▃▄▅▇▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.96 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁█▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 13.83▕ swarm size (avg): 505.85  ⟲May 13 00:59
mateythis comes as no surpriseMay 13 00:59
mateythis sort of tie-in has nothing to do with free softwareMay 13 01:00
mateyits pure open sourceMay 13 01:00
matey"dove, 100$ pure"May 13 01:00
mateypure soapMay 13 01:00
mateywhats soap? its n% this, x% that...May 13 01:00
mateybut if  you add all the ingredients together, its 100% somethingMay 13 01:01
matey(and what isnt?)May 13 01:01
mateylike the roads are made of 100% pure roadMay 13 01:02
mateyive never seen a road that wasnt made entirely of roadMay 13 01:02
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mateytaco bell is made with 100% real all natural sawdustMay 13 01:05
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AndroUserhelloMay 13 01:05
mateyits carbon-based, so its even organic sawdustMay 13 01:05
mateyit might even be kosherMay 13 01:05
mateyi mean, the sawdust. certainly not the meat they add to itMay 13 01:06
matey/me sees if they have a kosher taco bell in israelMay 13 01:06
MinceRnot even pure open source, more like open coreMay 13 01:07
mateywww.vrg.org/blog/2014/08/08/taco-bell-ingredient-update/May 13 01:07
mateyTaco Bell's nutritionist added this comment about their cheese enzymes: Today, due to the need for Kosher cheese and the cost of using animal sources, genetically engineered coagulants are used. The genetically engineered chymosin is derived from a modified strain of the dairy yeast Kluyveromyces lactis.May 13 01:07
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mateymmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMay 13 01:07
mateyyeast INCEPTIONMay 13 01:08
mateyyeast(yeast(yeast()))May 13 01:08
mateynot to be confused with yeatsMay 13 01:09
mateyif you add yeats to hopps, you just get drunken poetryMay 13 01:09
matey"kluyveromyces lactis you get down here right now!"May 13 01:10
matey"aww mom, what is it?"May 13 01:10
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matey"youve been coagulating cheese again, havent you?"May 13 01:10
matey"no, i swear"May 13 01:11
matey"if ive told you once ive told you a MILLION times, DONT EXAGGERATE"May 13 01:11
matey<MinceR> not even pure open source, more like open core <- nel blu dipinto de bluMay 13 01:12
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nel_blu,_dipinto_di_blu_(song)May 13 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nel blu, dipinto di blu (song) - WikipediaMay 13 01:13
matey"have you been to the palace?"May 13 01:14
matey"no, no i havent"May 13 01:14
matey"oh, you must, you must! it wont be there much longer, you know-- they are cleaning it!"May 13 01:15
activelownnn sucks... won't need thisMay 13 01:16
activelowstill lured into non-*nix thinkingMay 13 01:17
activelowneed to clear my mind, what's necessary, and what isn'tMay 13 01:17
mateywww.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/monarchy-could-be-on-its-last-legs-by-2030-once-the-queen-is-not-on-the-throne-a6967066.htmlMay 13 01:18
mateyThe British monarchy could be on its "last legs" by 2030, a historian has suggested. Dr Anna Whitelock, a reader in early modern history at Royal Holloway in London, said support for the monarchy...May 13 01:18
mateywhat i like even more than that is the very next link in the search results :)May 13 01:18
matey Oh, the Places You'll Go! Quotes by Dr. Seuss - GoodreadsMay 13 01:19
mateywww.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2125304-oh-the-places-you-ll-goMay 13 01:19
matey"And when you're alone, there's a very good chance you'll meet things that scare you right out of your pants. There are some, down the road between hither and yon, that can scare you so much you won't want to go on. But on you will go though the weather be foul. On you will go though your enemies prowl.May 13 01:19
mateyhiggledy piggledy wiggledy too, i guess the queen will soon be through. king chuck bit off too much to chew, oh dear, says one, what shall one do?May 13 01:20
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=JwEu3Wb1hM4May 13 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Eminem Disses Christmas (Killshot Remix) (PARODY) - InvidiousMay 13 01:22
mateyhttps://en.mediamass.net/people/bruno-mars/deathhoax.html Some fans have expressed anger at the fake report saying it was reckless, distressing and hurtful to fans of the much loved singer. Others say this shows his extreme popularity across the globe.May 13 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.mediamass.net | Bruno Mars dead 2022 : Singer killed by celebrity death hoax - MediamassMay 13 01:29
mateythough it does feel like hes locked out of heavenMay 13 01:30
mateysome idiot at puppy linux started telling people i was dead after confusing me with the late, great robert storeyMay 13 01:32
mateyrobert storey was a better writer and a better person than iMay 13 01:33
mateyhe was extremely generous and thoughtfulMay 13 01:33
mateywhat made the fellow at puppy an idiot was he basically went around telling everyone i was deadMay 13 01:34
mateyi thought he was acting like he was happy about itMay 13 01:34
mateyfinally i talked with him and set him straight, but not before he informed me of my unfortunate demiseMay 13 01:35
mateyi still dont think it was an honest mistake. it reeked of wishful thinking. thanks, dick.May 13 01:35
mateyif you take my least favourite person, of those ive actually knownMay 13 01:36
mateyand the same happened to themMay 13 01:36
mateyeven i wouldnt gloat about it so shamelesslyMay 13 01:36
mateycheck it out, im being blocked from A SINGLE WORD by a fucking captcha https://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2007/02/watch-out-theres-weasel-word-about.htmlMay 13 01:38
mateyONE WORDMay 13 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opendotdotdot.blogspot.com | open...: Watch Out, There's a Weasel Word AboutMay 13 01:38
mateyeven funnier, is its a post by glyn moodyMay 13 01:39
mateyits because he outsourced to google (11 years ago) http://web.archive.org/web/20201001180446/http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2007/02/watch-out-theres-weasel-word-about.htmlMay 13 01:42
mateythe weasel word, funnily enough, is "freedom"May 13 01:42
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mateyopen source has been trying to turn freedom into a weasel word for decadesMay 13 01:43
mateyand i guess portugal, 11 years ago, tried to make creative commons illegal http://web.archive.org/web/20210616003349/https://thecommandline.net/2011/05/09/is-portugal-really-trying-to-make-creative-commons-licenses-illegal/May 13 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Is Portugal Really Trying to Make Creative Commons Licenses Illegal? – The Command LineMay 13 01:44
mateydont bother going without the archive. 404.May 13 01:44
mateyTo use Falkvinge’s word, this proposed law is revolting for interfering with outcomes, fixating an incidental circumstances of some intermediaries, at certain points in the history of cultural production.May 13 01:45
mateyproposed lawMay 13 01:45
mateyROFLMay 13 01:45
mateythe law against sharing was proposed by portugals SOCIALIST party!May 13 01:46
mateythis is the length the fake left will go to May 13 01:46
mateymaybe the third (fourth) worst socialist party everMay 13 01:46
mateythere are some shitty onesMay 13 01:46
mateyim pro-socialism. some of the parties calling themselves that are worse than systemdMay 13 01:47
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpportunismMay 13 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Opportunism - WikipediaMay 13 01:49
matey"Left" opportunism is a highly volatile mixture of ultrarevolutionary theories and adventuristic tactical objectives that push the revolutionary working-class movement into unjustified actions and senseless sacrifices and defeats. https://leftypedia.org/wiki/OpportunismMay 13 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-leftypedia.org | Opportunism - LeftypediaMay 13 01:50
matey"Within Marxist organizing, opportunism refers to the abandonment of long-term aims in favour of short-term political success, more specifically through affiliation with bourgeois governments."May 13 01:50
mateysuch as lieplanetMay 13 01:50
mateywhich abandons free software for open source and stabs the founder in the backMay 13 01:50
mateypure fraudMay 13 01:51
matey"In this, critics such as Rosa Luxemburg and Vladimir Lenin saw an abandonment of the working class character of these socialist parties."May 13 01:51
mateyim STRONGLY pro-union, but when dealing with charlatans such as these: techworkerscoalition.org its worth noting that a union is a coin with two sidesMay 13 01:53
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mateyon the one side of a union is the fact that whenever workers decide to organise (a good thingMay 13 01:53
matey)May 13 01:53
mateythey choose the big unions, the established unions-- whether or not theyre any goodMay 13 01:53
mateyin other words its like when activists choose twitterMay 13 01:54
mateytheres no point telling them to create their OWN unionMay 13 01:54
mateythis is never the first stepMay 13 01:54
mateyworkers who want to organise and strike for better treatment invariably go with established (large, if mediocre) unionsMay 13 01:55
mateyif (but not before) that effort fails, maybe a new union is created, but not beforeMay 13 01:55
mateyso all large-scale organising starts with tried, if not trueMay 13 01:55
mateyso thats where the workers areMay 13 01:55
mateybut the other side of the coin, is large established unions have union leadersMay 13 01:56
mateyand if a union is a good thing, it stands to reason (falsely) that union leaders are good tooMay 13 01:56
mateyunion leaders however, are more like politiciansMay 13 01:56
mateytheir job is to negotiate, and frequently, capitulateMay 13 01:56
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mateyso at the bottom a union is very importantMay 13 01:57
mateyaand at the top, its a snow cap made of utter shitMay 13 01:57
mateyultimate the workers oust the shit leader and replace themMay 13 01:57
mateyor start their own union, but it never starts that wayMay 13 01:57
mateyso are unions a good thing? yes, provided that you understand the role of the leader.May 13 01:58
mateyotherwise you might think theyre not shit.May 13 01:58
mateymaybe when union leaders fail they go to work for socialist (reform) partiesMay 13 01:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▅▅▅▅▃▆▄▅▇▅▆▅▅▅▄▂▃▁▂▄▅▄▆▅▅▅▄▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 21.90 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁██▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 24.90▕ swarm size (avg): 480.40  ⟲May 13 01:59
mateywhats wrong with reform? its the same level of selling out they were doing as union leadersMay 13 01:59
mateyyou promise progress, you give the people a pile of shit.May 13 01:59
mateytheres a way out of that loop, but dont trust reformersMay 13 01:59
mateythey stand for nothing.May 13 01:59
matey(and THAT is why tom and i no longer talk)May 13 01:59
matey(this mostly isnt about him though i thought id mention it, since roy was nice enough to bring it up a few weeks ago)May 13 02:00
mateyif given a choice between turning on the cause and turning on someone who has sold outMay 13 02:01
mateyill turn on the selloutMay 13 02:01
mateymost often they will try to fuck me over, before i consider returning the favourMay 13 02:01
mateytom might be okayMay 13 02:01
mateybut i dont trust him, and ive been stung before. its my prerogative.May 13 02:02
mateyit was kind of oliva to apologise, and maybe it was an honest mistake on his partMay 13 02:02
mateybut he sold me out, and i dont trust him, and his feelings are hurtMay 13 02:02
mateywell, it sucks to be him. i dont have to tell him that.May 13 02:03
activelowobviously different $TERM differ with their capabilities... May 13 02:04
mateypeople are selling out good people because they have more faith in organisations than the people who fucking built themMay 13 02:04
mateywell, thats not meMay 13 02:04
mateyfuck an organisation. individuals DO matterMay 13 02:04
activelowthere is another one... $TERM are too _incompatible_ with capabilities with should NOT beMay 13 02:04
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activelowmeaning, there seems no basic set of compatible capbilities, that's why de/re-attaching with different $TERM with abduco session manager and dvtm is a painMay 13 02:05
matey <matey> fuck an organisation. individuals DO matterMay 13 02:05
mateyespecially since an individual can have more integrity, on AVERAGE, than any groupMay 13 02:05
mateywhen a group is busy selling out its baseMay 13 02:05
activelowthere isn't a common $TERM with a basic set of capabilities which always works among _all_ $TERM typesMay 13 02:05
mateythose individuals are the most valuable-- and the most maligned.May 13 02:05
activelowthis sucksMay 13 02:05
mateyEXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME for not going along with that. May 13 02:06
mateyif i had known it was a dick-sucking contest, i would have found someone who was interested in puckering up.May 13 02:06
mateybut its not me, sorry.May 13 02:06
activelowbecause i though, i though, ok, test with the most basic set of capabilities: monochrome, no sixels of cause, nothing fancy...May 13 02:06
activelownonetheless de/re-attaching such a terminal type breaks when switching between xterm <-> linux terminal typesMay 13 02:06
mateyim not into that sort of competitionMay 13 02:07
mateyif im going to suck anyone off, its going to be because i actually like themMay 13 02:08
mateynot to impress some group of idiots May 13 02:08
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activelowgnu screen terminal capabilites provide a basic set which works, yet with this i got some character/line screen clearing issues stillMay 13 02:08
activelowi mean, TERM=linux function keys F1...F12 aren't at least compatible with TERM=xterm... i receive different keycodes with those within TERM=linux and TERM=xterm ... this sucksMay 13 02:09
mateyits true that invididualism is overdone. its the individual egos that decide theyre going to destroy people like stallman because they think theyre better.May 13 02:10
activelowok, ditch function keys, can live with this... backspace/delete and cursor positioning/character-clearing ... this isn't acceptableMay 13 02:10
mateybut the first thing they do is start some bullshit organisation-- like osiMay 13 02:10
mateyor some fake shit like gnu.fools.May 13 02:10
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mateyand then they proceed to tell people how things are going to beMay 13 02:10
mateyand then-- nothing. they do nothing. they follow nothing. they stand for-- nothing.May 13 02:10
mateyit was never about more than them.May 13 02:10
mateythats what lieplanet isMay 13 02:11
mateythats what open source isMay 13 02:11
mateythats what eric fucking raymond is.May 13 02:11
mateya sad little... big man.May 13 02:11
mateya selloutMay 13 02:11
mateya backstabberMay 13 02:11
mateya shit.May 13 02:11
mateytbh, historically... May 13 02:11
activelowwhat?May 13 02:12
mateyhis contributions were substantialMay 13 02:12
mateyeven epicMay 13 02:12
mateybut he has no integrityMay 13 02:12
mateyand you cant build any kind of real progress, with fake integrity.May 13 02:12
mateyyou can build osi though.May 13 02:12
mateythanks, i guess.May 13 02:12
mateykarl fogel decides cc0 isnt a free licenseMay 13 02:13
mateyfucking retard.May 13 02:13
mateyseriously, karl fogel stopped making a shred of fucking sense at that momentMay 13 02:13
mateyat that point the ediface became THE thing, and the thing it stood for became a fucking farceMay 13 02:13
mateyfogel became a farce along with itMay 13 02:14
mateydont let this happen to youMay 13 02:14
mateydont be like these idiotsMay 13 02:14
mateyits better to be no one, and stand for somethingMay 13 02:14
mateythan to be king, and be a worthless dick.May 13 02:14
mateyopen source will never, can never, understand this.May 13 02:15
matey"IM KING OF THE WORLD!"May 13 02:15
mateyyoure a fucking cuntsicle clinging to a piece of wood in the middle of the fucking ocean.May 13 02:15
mateyhave fun with that.May 13 02:15
mateyeric raymond said "where is my friend" about stallman after the cancellationMay 13 02:20
mateyhe might as well have said "am i my brothers keeper"May 13 02:20
mateyhe didnt have to sign the letterMay 13 02:20
mateyhes the one that engineered the whole fucking thingMay 13 02:20
mateyim not saying he deployed itMay 13 02:20
mateyon that note i dont know the whole storyMay 13 02:20
mateyprobably never willMay 13 02:20
mateybut what happened 3 years ago, had been in the osi vault for AGESMay 13 02:21
mateyhe fucking engineered itMay 13 02:21
mateythe question is: why?May 13 02:21
mateyanswer that and youll know more about open source than 99% of peopleMay 13 02:21
mateymyself includedMay 13 02:21
mateywith friends like that, who needs 40mm enema launchers?May 13 02:22
matey“Left” opportunism tries to push the revolutionary movement onto an adventurist path. Its erroneous actions, disguised in revolutionary, Marxist phraseology, discredit communism, thus playing into the hands of the bourgeoisie.  https://leftypedia.org/wiki/OpportunismMay 13 02:24
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mateyhttps://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discussMay 13 02:25
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mateyfake revolution makes it so no one believes in the struggle for real progress anymoreMay 13 02:26
mateythats clearly what (a) has happened and (b) CONTINUES to happen to free softwareMay 13 02:27
mateythere IS a fixMay 13 02:27
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mateyindeed there are severalMay 13 02:27
mateybut if people keep siding with those destroying everything it stood forMay 13 02:27
mateythe results dont require a batshit "rocket scientists" like elon musk to figure out what the results will beMay 13 02:27
mateywe do need an a-team of nobodies, to rebuild free softwareMay 13 02:28
mateybut the a-team wont backstab anyoneMay 13 02:28
mateythey wont rebrand doublespeak as "diplomacy" or "good manners"May 13 02:29
mateyor "acceptable conduct"May 13 02:29
mateyall of those are distractionsMay 13 02:29
mateyfree software was already acceptable.May 13 02:29
mateybut nothing one does will make everyone accept it.May 13 02:29
mateyno integrity-- no movement.May 13 02:31
mateyjust a bunch of twits doing to free software what systemd did to debianMay 13 02:32
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mateyUnfortunately, this is not some abstract battle between different points of view. For example, if CC licences become illegal in Portugal, this would presumably mean that contributing to Wikipedia would also become illegal. Maybe Wikipedia itself would become illegal - there seems no limit to the absurdity of the knock-on consequences when starting from such a ridiculous premise. May 13 02:37
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activelowlinux libdrm/kms subsystem... i don't know... just wanted to see if /dev/fb0 can be switched down to 8bit 256color formatMay 13 03:42
activelow8bit depth rgb format isn't supported by the gpu driver, the kernel sources of some seem slightly confused, and the userspace utilities are weird, particularly the libdrm related onesMay 13 03:43
activelowi am glad, at least is wiped finallyMay 13 03:43
activelowi am glad, at least libdrm is wiped finallyMay 13 03:43
activelowof cause i can keep terminal capabilities at 256 colors, which is default, yet i hoped framebuffer could be scaled down to some reasonable limit, to make it fasterMay 13 03:44
activelowi'll keep framebuffer at 16bit... which too is a test case to see, which format conversions are flawed with sixels involvedMay 13 03:45
DaemonFCThey have smart features on my dehumidifier.May 13 03:45
DaemonFCI can control it from my phone.May 13 03:45
DaemonFCWhat's funny is I'm sure the security is horrible and someone could install the app and find out you have a dehumidifier and turn on continual pump without it being hooked up into a drain.May 13 03:45
DaemonFCAnd you come home and find gallons and gallons of water all over your floor.May 13 03:46
activelowthe terminal capability incompatibilities are worse, can't grasp the wisdom not at least some basic set of capabilities among relevant terminal typesMay 13 03:47
activelowsuch as with backspace/delete, cursor positioning and character/line clearing... for virtual terminals i mean (not a modem line or printer which can't erase of cause)May 13 03:48
activelowlong story short, not at least 256bit color virtual terminal remain compatibleMay 13 03:49
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, May 12, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextMay 13 04:39
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techrights-news"For years people have wanted Nvidia to open source there Linux drivers and finally they've done so however it's not that simple and big parts of the driver stack will remain proprietary including the CUDA, Vulkan and OpenGL support." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1jkB8jA0X3QMay 13 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Nvidia Open Sources Linux Drivers!! But There's A Catch - InvidiousMay 13 04:44
techrights-newsNot all open-source leaders are jerks - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/not_all_opensource_leaders_are/ ䷉ Source: theregisterMay 13 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Not all open-source leaders are jerks • The RegisterMay 13 04:45
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techrights-news"Paradox Interactive has released the major Stellaris: Overlord expansion, along with a free Stellaris 3.4 version update." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/stellaris-34-cepheus-and-stellaris-overlord-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stellaris 3.4 'Cepheus' and Stellaris: Overlord out now | GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:51
techrights-news"Probably one of the most important creatures on Earth and now you'll be looking after them in APICO on May 20, 2022." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-the-bees-on-may-20-with-the-release-of-apico/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Save the Bees on May 20 with the release of APICO | GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:51
techrights-news"Have you burned out on Vampire Survivors and want something new? Or perhaps you just prefer spaceships?" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/uh-oh-gunlocked-is-like-vampire-survivors-in-space-and-just-as-absorbing/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uh oh, Gunlocked is like Vampire Survivors in space and just as absorbing | GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:52
techrights-news"Looking for the best time to order your Librem 14 laptop?" ☛ https://puri.sm/posts/summer-sale-on-librem-14-laptops/ | Source: PurismMay 13 04:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Summer Sale on Librem 14 Laptops – PurismMay 13 04:53
techrights-news"Hailo and Lanner Electronics launched a cost efficient PCIe accelerator card called the Falcon H8." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/lanners-falcon-h8-ai-accelerator-card-powered-by-hailo-8-ai-processors/ | Source: Linux GizmosMay 13 04:54
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techrights-news"Core Keeper is another big indie hit and for good reason, it's a total gem" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/core-keeper-gets-dedicated-servers-upcoming-sunken-sea-biome-sounds-huge/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Core Keeper gets dedicated servers, upcoming Sunken Sea Biome sounds huge | GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:54
techrights-news"The Garden Path is an upcoming casual chilled-out life sim that looks gorgeous." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/get-an-early-look-at-the-garden-path-with-a-few-copies-left-on-itchio/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get an early look at The Garden Path with a few copies left on itch.io | GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:55
techrights-news"x86-based Universal CPE (uCPE)" ☛ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/practical-solution-cloudify-network-edge-why-containers-white-box-devices-and-sd-wan-are-ideal | Source: Red Hat OfficialMay 13 04:56
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techrights-news"The Jackbox Party Starter has been announced to launch this "Summer", which will be the perfect entry to get the party started with more languages supported." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/the-jackbox-party-starter-coming-this-summer-with-more-localization/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Jackbox Party Starter coming this 'Summer' with more localization | GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:56
techrights-news"Another absolutely huge update for the Steam Deck just landed, with Valve clearly taking on lots of feedback to make it the best handheld gaming device around." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/steam-deck-gets-per-app-performance-profiles-hardware-survey-and-loads-more/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Deck gets per-app performance profiles, hardware survey and loads more | GamingOnLinuxMay 13 04:57
techrights-newsNvidia Open Sources Drivers, FOSS Is Winning! (Despite The Haters) ⚓ https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/nvidia-open-sources-drivers,-foss-is:6 ䷉ Source: DistroTubeMay 13 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Nvidia Open Sources Drivers, FOSS Is Winning! (Despite The Haters)May 13 04:57
techrights-newsold: An Open Letter to Hobbyists ⚓ https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/surf/072397mind-letter.html ䷉ Source: archiveMay 13 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.nytimes.com | An Open Letter to HobbyistsMay 13 04:57
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techrights-newsStarbucks ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/are-starbucks-union-busting-tactics-legal/ | Source: Counter PunchMay 13 05:09
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techrights-news"Raspberry Pi Pico is a low-cost microcontroller that can be connected to another computer" ☛ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-pico-classroom-physical-computing/ | Source: Raspberry PiMay 13 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Teaching with Raspberry Pi Pico in the computing classroom - Raspberry PiMay 13 05:10
techrights-news"Julia has initiated numerous international cooperation projects in the museum field around capacity building and organizational transformation." ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/12/episode-30-open-culture-voices-julia-pagel/ | Source: Creative CommonsMay 13 05:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Episode 30: Open Culture VOICES – Julia Pagel - Creative CommonsMay 13 05:11
techrights-news"he was deputy development manager and head of digital services and communication at Paris Musées." ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/12/episode-29-open-culture-voices-philippe-riviere/ | Source: Creative CommonsMay 13 05:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Episode 29: Open Culture VOICES – Philippe Rivière - Creative CommonsMay 13 05:15
techrights-news#Boycottstarbucks a thing yet? ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-union-momentum-grows-with-groundbreaking-first-wins-in-california/ | Source: TruthOutMay 13 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Starbucks Union Momentum Grows With Groundbreaking First Wins in CaliforniaMay 13 05:19
techrights-newsSweatshopZone ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/amazons-inadequate-safety-rules-put-thousands-at-risk-aoc-and-warren-say/ | Source: TruthOutMay 13 05:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Amazon’s “Inadequate” Safety Rules Put Thousands at Risk, AOC and Warren SayMay 13 05:21
techrights-news"I’m currently a member of the Chinese Text Layout Task Force" ☛ https://chenhuijing.com/blog/font-face-fun-times/ | Source: Chen HuiJingMay 13 05:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chenhuijing.com | @font-face fun timesMay 13 05:22
techrights-news"The ERTMS is one of those technical things rail nerds and industry insiders hear about every few years, but it never seems to go anywhere." ☛ https://rubenerd.com/the-european-rail-traffic-management-system/ | Source: Ruben SchadeMay 13 05:22
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activelowanother one on the hitlist for removal: Vim... back to elvisMay 13 05:34
techrights-newsMore disinformation ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/120-groups-call-social-media-giants-combat-election-disinformation-ahead-midterms | Source: Common DreamsMay 13 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 120+ Groups Call On Social Media Giants to Combat Election Disinformation Ahead of MidtermsMay 13 05:34
matey<DaemonFC> They have smart features on my dehumidifier. <DaemonFC> I can control it from my phone. May 13 05:56
matey <DaemonFC> And you come home and find gallons and gallons of water all over your floor. <- this is what was missing from the sony aiboMay 13 05:57
techrights-news"As enforced by these corporate apparatchiks of Managerialism, university academics are obliged to compete by means of publishing in the so-called top journals, and to stockpile (quantity over quality) ever greater numbers of publications than their peers." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/academentia-and-managerialism/ | Source: Counter PunchMay 13 05:57
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mateythat and warning to not use it as a water dispenser, as "the aibos reservoir is not food-safe and it should not be used as a water dispenser"May 13 05:58
matey...not unlike a real dog.May 13 05:58
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matey"all i ask is for sharks with frikkin laser beams on their foreheads and a robot dog i can use as a water dispenser. throw me a frikkin booone here."May 13 06:00
mateysony would probably be LESS evil if it were run by dr evil from a frikkin volcano.May 13 06:01
mateythough i can imagine frau repeating his worst ideas at the top of her lungsMay 13 06:03
matey"remove support for linux from the ps3" "REMOVE LINUX SUPPPOOOOOORRRRRRTTT!!!!!!!!"May 13 06:04
matey"mr powers, youre too late, ive already sent out the firmware updates over the "internet""May 13 06:05
matey"whyd you do it dr evil?"May 13 06:05
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matey"isnt it kind of poontless? i mean, if you want to run linux why not buy an actual com-PUT-ter?"May 13 06:06
matey"thats not the point, man, if the ps3 can run it anyway, why not just be groovy and let people use it?"May 13 06:06
matey"i sent out the updates because i enjoy when users suffer"May 13 06:08
matey"man, you really missed your calling, you could have worked for microsoft."May 13 06:08
techrights-news"Disney is looking for a senior paralegal to expand its anti-[sharing] team in Burbank California." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/disney-seeks-a-paralegal-to-help-combat-online-piracy-220512/ | Source: Torrent FreakMay 13 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Disney Seeks a Senior Paralegal to Help Combat Online Piracy * TorrentFreakMay 13 06:08
techrights-news"The Italian telecoms regulator AGCOM already has tools at its disposal to fight" filesharing/streaming ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/new-legislation-gives-telecoms-regulator-major-power-to-fight-piracy-220512/ | Source: Torrent FreakMay 13 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Legislation Gives Telecoms Regulator Major Powers to Fight Piracy * TorrentFreakMay 13 06:08
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matey"i tried. they said i reminded them too much of steve ball-mer, and they already had one."May 13 06:08
techrights-news"The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) says it is investigating reports" ☛ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/05/dea-investigating-breach-of-law-enforcement-data-portal/ | Source: Krebs On SecurityMay 13 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | DEA Investigating Breach of Law Enforcement Data Portal – Krebs on SecurityMay 13 06:08
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matey"oh yeah?"May 13 06:10
matey"yes, and the stole my frikkin plans. cloud 360 was MY idea."May 13 06:10
mateyMeet aibo, Sony's robotic dog that has been evolving for over two decades | Aibo Community Hub AIBO was first introduced to the world in 1999 and development has continued to progress as the industry of technology has advanced. Today Sony is focused on the ERS-1000, its brand-new version of the robotic puppy.May 13 06:12
mateythat isnt evolution, its unintelligent designMay 13 06:12
mateywww.cnet.com/home/smart-home/yes-the-robot-dog-ate-your-privacy/May 13 06:13
mateyAt $2,900, Sony's robot dog Aibo sits at the fringe of technology, but it might not stay there. Whether you find it cute or creepy, the tech that makes Aibo tick is continuing to evolve, and it...May 13 06:13
mateyTo be clear, Aibo's tech already includes artificial intelligence, sensors and microphones that help it interact with people, and cameras that can recognize faces and help it navigate your home like a Roomba. A reasonable consumer might rightly wonder just how much data this dog gathers as it wanders their home scanning faces and learning about its owners.May 13 06:14
mateyalways nice to find out your robot dog is a russian (japanese) spy.May 13 06:14
matey2 cameras and 4 mics! its like someone gave legs to a smartphone and an echo dot.May 13 06:15
mateybut can it be used as a gps when you drive?May 13 06:16
matey"aibo, how to do i get to perm-36?"May 13 06:16
matey"ri roh roh?"May 13 06:16
mateyeveryone knows that, you just look at stalin funny.May 13 06:16
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mateywww.historyanswers.co.uk/people-politics/perm-36-the-soviet-era-gulag-museum-where-putin-is-rewriting-history/May 13 06:19
mateyPerm-36 - located 95 kilometres away from the city, in the village of Kuchino - stopped being a camp/colony in 1988, and since then has been developed as both a memorial and a museum to the Gulag system. Post-Stalin, the camp and repressions continued - they didn't suddenly stop with Uncle Joe's death in 1953.May 13 06:19
matey‘Little Father’, ‘Uncle Joe’ or ‘Koba’ was a mass-murdering dictator whose corrective-camp labour system, known as Gulag (‘Glavnoe upravlenie lagerei’, translated as Main Administration Camp), led to the displacement and deaths of millions. Mid-20th century Russia and its rocket-paced progress was built on the backs, and then the bones, of the dead May 13 06:20
mateywhen it comes to infrastructure programmes like roads and canals, that’s meant pretty much literally.May 13 06:20
mateyBut to many, Stalin was the leader who saved them from the Nazis during World War IIMay 13 06:20
mateyLOLMay 13 06:20
mateyhe just fucking sat there while the nazis poured in, AFTER he blew up the fortifications designed to prevent precisely this as a gesture of "good will"May 13 06:21
mateyThere was – and still is – a romantic notion to contend with: that Stalin always had the best intentions for the country and if he went wrong along the way, it was due to enemies of the people or was ultimately justifiableMay 13 06:21
mateyits funny how people will line up to defend a madmanMay 13 06:22
mateyThe modernisation of Russia into a superpower cost millions in lives. To suggest every single prisoner was a class enemy, a wrecker or saboteur, is preposterous. If not arrested and exiled on imaginary pretexts or crimes, they were taken at the least provocation. One man was arrested and sent to a corrective-labour camp for selling a piglet at market. He was denounced as a ‘speculator’.May 13 06:22
mateyif he had only sold pooh or eeyore he might have gotten away with itMay 13 06:23
mateyTrumped up charges like these meant a steady stream of expendable workforcesMay 13 06:23
mateywhen the usa "ended" slavery they made sure the amendment to the constitution didnt remove this form of itMay 13 06:24
mateyPutin has aired opinions about Stalin – that the Katyn Massacre of 1940 was a war crime ordered by Stalin and carried out by the NKVD – but he has also found the image of Stalin as a useful guiding light to re-establish Russia’s superiority. The struggle between revisionism and accepted historical reality is creeping rather than a blatant, wholesale rewriting.May 13 06:25
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mateyopen russia!May 13 06:25
mateyossr (occp)May 13 06:26
mateynot to be confused with the fssr, aka lieplanet-36May 13 06:26
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techrights-newswifislax64-3.0 VERSION FINAL https://www.wifislax.com/wifislax64-3-0-version-final/May 13 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wifislax64-3.0 VERSION FINAL | Live WifislaxMay 13 06:40
techrights-newsArchman 2022.05.13 is also out https://archman.org/May 13 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archman.org | Archman GNU/LinuxMay 13 06:40
matey“We filmed one display. It told about the prisoners of that camp. Like any camp, it confined actual dissidents and human rights advocates together with, literally, Nazi collaborators, as well as recidivist gangsters, and spies. The paradox is that, according to the display we filmed, there was no difference between the former and the latter, which is both immoral and unprofessional.”May 13 06:42
mateyand very much like the sort of people who have created lieplanet.May 13 06:42
mateywho can never tell the differenceMay 13 06:42
mateyfirst they will hang stallman, of courseMay 13 06:43
mateywhy? hes the worlds greatest bigot and pervert!May 13 06:43
mateybut then, once hes been hobbled politicallyMay 13 06:43
mateythey will say "hes a great guy, it was just time to move on"May 13 06:43
mateyi mean thats not the evil of historical revisionism, thats....May 13 06:44
mateyoh, yeah it is. but its not open source!May 13 06:44
mateyi mean, open source hasnt been rewriting history for 20 fucking years, pretending linus torvalds... um...May 13 06:44
mateywell, fuck!May 13 06:44
mateyi wonder what year theyll have lieplanet #36May 13 06:45
matey(answer, never-- hopefully it will be gone by then)May 13 06:45
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mateyheres one place the article fucks up majorly "In 2015, the Levada Institute, a non-governmental polling survey body, found that 52 per cent of Russians held Stalin in a positive..."May 13 06:47
mateyYOU REALLY CANT trust the polling orgs in russia!May 13 06:48
mateyeven the non-governmental ones.May 13 06:48
mateybut western media routinely cites them as if its TRIVIAL (not SO much) to glean useful or realistic information about russians from themMay 13 06:48
mateyreally, you might as well ask microsoft if most people love windows.May 13 06:49
mateyYES, some russians do like stalinMay 13 06:49
matey"found that 52 per cent of Russians..." бред сивой кобылы!May 13 06:49
matey"When this lack of curiosity about the past or attempts at rehabilitation affect places like Perm-36, whose purpose is to speak out for those killed by the state in the name of progress or retribution, the result is far more dangerous than having the face of Stalin emblazoned on a t-shirt, or his mug printed on a coaster, as if he’s a Che Guevara type."May 13 06:54
mateyits not like statues of stalin are going (back) up all over russiaMay 13 06:55
mateyin so many places, hes been torn down while lenin (in so many places) stays up, rarely defacedMay 13 06:55
mateysomeone DID paint ukranian flag colours on lenins head at one point, but some (at least one eh) ukrainian-sympathetic russians found that "funny"May 13 06:56
mateyconsidering how nationalist the exploitation of ukraine is, and how passionately anti-nationalist lenin wasMay 13 06:57
techrights-news“This is how we do things around here.” gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/12.1May 13 06:57
mateyits speculation and perhaps ignorantly so, but i wouldnt be surprised if lenin himself would have found that "funny" tooMay 13 06:57
techrights-newsNew: "As to why I haven't left yet? Because it seems this “Agile” movement has invaded everywhere and things would be “more of the same” elsewhere. At least here, I'm not forced to use Windows [4]." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/12.1"May 13 06:58
mateyyou can still find idiots in shops who have put a picture of stalin upMay 13 06:58
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mateyi think it would be a mistake to let them represent broad russian sentimentMay 13 06:59
mateyabout as ridiculous as saying "most americans love trump"May 13 06:59
mateyreally even more ridiculous, as the margins are that differentMay 13 06:59
techrights-newsDisinformation ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/meet-the-head-of-bidens-new-disinformation-governing-board/ | Source: The NationMay 13 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Meet the Head of Biden’s New “Disinformation Governing Board” | The NationMay 13 07:07
mateyso there are other ways (one ive used) to search youtube from the command line... which is great if youre using a command line program to get youtube videosMay 13 07:11
mateybut i just discovered that yt-dl (the fork of youtube-dl that despite its faults, does work far better) May 13 07:12
mateyAND YES, its githubMay 13 07:12
mateyive now processed literally tens of thousands of free software programs, and weeded out MORE THAN 99 PERCENT of github stuff.May 13 07:13
techrights-newsStarbucks ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/let-floodgates-open-starbucks-union-scores-first-wins-california | Source: Common DreamsMay 13 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Let the Floodgates Open': Starbucks Union Scores First Wins in CaliforniaMay 13 07:13
mateyand even after doing that, i will still say good things about yt-dl, but this is an exception to an exception to an exceptionMay 13 07:13
mateyi try very hard to not promote github stuffMay 13 07:14
mateywhich means practically everythingMay 13 07:14
mateyso if even i say something great about something on github, its unusual to say the leastMay 13 07:15
mateyrareMay 13 07:15
mateybut getting back to the point, i think to search github from the command line i think you just say (in quotes) "ytsearch: whatever youre searching for"May 13 07:16
mateyinstead of the url, with yt-dlMay 13 07:16
mateymaybe this feature goes back several years-- i just found itMay 13 07:16
mateyhavent even used itMay 13 07:16
mateyreally cool thoughMay 13 07:16
techrights-news"persistent refusal to share key coronavirus vaccine and treatment technology" = PATENTS as the problem ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/donation-model-has-failed-supremacy-greed-decried-covid-summit-begins | Source: Common DreamsMay 13 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Donation Model Has Failed': Supremacy of Greed Decried as Covid Summit BeginsMay 13 07:16
mateythe problem with youtube-dl, which i really would prefer to use, and havent deleted even though i havent used it in agesMay 13 07:17
matey(and its also github-based)May 13 07:17
mateyis that you cant have a youtube downloader unless you constantly fix what youtube deliberately fucks upMay 13 07:18
mateyand youtube-dl is next to abandoned, at least in present, practical termsMay 13 07:18
mateywhat i LIKE about it is that i think they are less dependent on python 3? so thats very coolMay 13 07:19
mateystill, yt-dl actually fixes problems that youtube-dl suffers for long periods of time, unfixedMay 13 07:19
mateyits becoming like openoffice vs libreoffice, at least a little bitMay 13 07:19
mateyin that openoffice, while i really preferred it for its simplicity, was basically abandoned after it reverted back to a free licenseMay 13 07:20
mateyand libreoffice became more popular and better maintained (although they also added a lot of bloat, some annoyances, and even stabbed richard stallman in the back-- i havent used libreoffice in about a year or more)May 13 07:21
mateyid like to live in a world where a youtube downloader isnt even necessaryMay 13 07:21
mateybut as long as im using one, yt-dl is the new youtube-dl, and it works wellMay 13 07:21
mateyand since both are github based, the best thing you can say about the former is that they have tried not to push python 3May 13 07:22
mateywhich i really do find admirable as fuckMay 13 07:22
mateyfor that reason alone i hope they get back on track and start fixing / updating againMay 13 07:22
mateypossibly by de-python-3ifying yt-dl, since youtube-dl is otherwise, possibly, soon, maybe deadMay 13 07:23
mateybut i really want to be wrong there, so hopefully i will beMay 13 07:23
mateyas for why to de-python-3, someone (xrevan) has actually helped to fix the one (technical) feature i hate most about itMay 13 07:24
mateyim still impressed May 13 07:24
mateybut even then...May 13 07:24
mateyfrom a political standpoint, python 3 still has shown a systemd-like attitude towards users. not hard to guess how i feel about thatMay 13 07:24
mateysystemd-like in downplaying the level theyve gone to to rustify (destabilise) the languageMay 13 07:25
mateymaybe im playing that up. not deliberately. if they werent downplaying it, id be a lot less likely to upplay itMay 13 07:26
mateyi dont really think im upplaying it.May 13 07:26
mateylanguage destabilisation is a real and very corporate problemMay 13 07:26
mateyso i dislike that (and not only that) about python 3May 13 07:26
mateyi dislike that it became google-fiedMay 13 07:26
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mateyi dislike that guido works for microsoft.May 13 07:27
mateyi mean literally works at microsoft.May 13 07:27
mateyi have no desire to promote a microsoft product.May 13 07:27
mateythey kill everything good. they will kill cpython.May 13 07:27
mateypypy has done everything i think should have been done about thisMay 13 07:28
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mateyso i would rather recommend that to as many people as possibleMay 13 07:28
mateyeven if they find they are forced to use cpython for a few things (which they would be, most likely)May 13 07:28
mateypypy compatibility is a stand for stability, imoMay 13 07:28
mateythe closest you can get to stability or sanity with python.May 13 07:29
mateythats the sort of thing id rather promoteMay 13 07:29
mateyso if youtube-dl manages to pick itself up again and maybe port features from yt-dl on their (noble) crusade to preserve python 2 compatibilityMay 13 07:29
mateyi mean thats like what devuan was supposed to give us, its that sort of project-- mate, trinity, etc.May 13 07:30
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mateyi would like to smile on, as much as possible, projects that stand against the treadmill of unnecessary "novel" shitMay 13 07:30
mateywith yt-dl, the advantage is simple-- its a tool designed to download videos from the command line.May 13 07:31
mateyits well maintained. its not full of pointless gimmicks.May 13 07:31
mateyim hoping youtube-dl can catch up at some point, but i only tried something else when the former was working unsuitably, and dramatically soMay 13 07:31
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mateythis guy has one of those curved monitorsMay 13 07:34
mateymaybe ill change my mind about them someday, i find them really hideousMay 13 07:34
mateyi think theres a technical argument to be made for them, i have yet to warm up to the ideaMay 13 07:34
mateyi think i could tolerate a much larger screen than this one (indeed i owned one for a while) without going curvedMay 13 07:35
mateyand there are technical arguments against curved monitors tooMay 13 07:35
mateymostly i would expect them to fall apart more readily during a moveMay 13 07:36
mateyi mean, i can imagine packaging that would help, if you save the box, which some people doMay 13 07:36
mateybut if i need a screen thats so big (and expensive) that going curved is in any way practicalMay 13 07:36
mateyid rather just use a projector again.May 13 07:37
mateymy only gripe with those is they literally burn outMay 13 07:37
mateyand then you have to go on the great bulb huntMay 13 07:37
mateyand really, i dont think theyre very friendly (from a design standpoint) about any of thisMay 13 07:37
techrights-newsIn the MSM, "Aid" means "Weapons". When they say [some monetary sum] for "aid" they mean weapon sales for some US corporations that charge for weapons like 10 times the production cost. Weapons do not aid, they kill...May 13 07:38
mateyother than that, i love projectors. May 13 07:38
techrights-newsSo-called "meatpackers"; as if animals are not just "livestock" but packs ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/house-panel-exposes-how-shameful-meatpackers-put-profits-over-worker-health-during | Source: Common DreamsMay 13 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | House Panel Exposes How 'Shameful' Meatpackers Put Profits Over Worker Health During PandemicMay 13 07:38
mateyid happily build a screen as large as a wall for oneMay 13 07:39
mateyits WAY cheaper and easier to move than an actual screen that sizeMay 13 07:39
techrights-news"Our own Glyn Moody has written several posts about how exceptions that have been made to copyright laws throughout the world have picked up steam" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/12/visually-impaired-advocacy-group-goes-to-war-with-south-africa-copyright-law/ | Source: TechdirtMay 13 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Visually Impaired Advocacy Group Goes To War With South Africa Copyright Law | TechdirtMay 13 07:39
mateyim kind of surprised this isnt more popular as a solution, even for like gamersMay 13 07:39
mateybut ehMay 13 07:40
techrights-news"What the actual fuck, EU? While they pretend to be all about protecting privacy, they then push out this bit of utter nonsense: a bill to “protect the children” by literally requiring online services scan all messaging" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/12/eu-proposes-its-own-version-of-earn-it-effectively-mandates-full-surveillance-of-all-messaging-no-encryption/ | Source: TechdirtMay 13 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU Proposes It’s Own Version Of EARN IT: Effectively Mandates Full Surveillance Of All Messaging & No Encryption | TechdirtMay 13 07:40
techrights-news"military-grade surveillance" ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/california-law-enforcement-now-needs-approval-military-grade-surveillance | Source: EFFMay 13 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | California Law Enforcement Now Needs Approval for Military-Grade Surveillance Equipment. We'll Be Watching. | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 13 07:41
mateyand id still use a monitor, but i do tasks even now where turning a projector on would be amazingMay 13 07:41
mateyi dont presently own oneMay 13 07:41
mateyive used a fewMay 13 07:41
mateya combination of preferring used hardware and hard-to-find bulbs is a real drawbackMay 13 07:42
techrights-newsWow, EFF has a new slant on free speech. Read this. See what EFF makes of free speech... (partisan bullshit from CohnPAC) ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/blow-free-speech-texas-unconstitutional-social-media-law-allowed-proceed-pending | Source: EFFMay 13 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | In a Blow to Free Speech, Texas’ Social Media Law Allowed to Proceed Pending Appeal | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 13 07:42
techrights-news"software pants" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/12/why-get-dressed-when-there-are-software-pants/ | Source: HackadayMay 13 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Get Dressed When There Are Software Pants? | HackadayMay 13 07:42
mateyalso those fuckers probably have a lot of mercury (by comparison)May 13 07:42
mateyso if youre using something else for (sound, justifiable) environmental reasons, i totally respect thatMay 13 07:43
techrights-newsEFF: partisan politics instead of tech substance. Personal projects rather than principles. Attacking Wikileaks and RMS... for the wrong reasons.May 13 07:43
mateyi know most green stuff is bs, but at least some decisions (like reusing what would be e-waste) are soundMay 13 07:43
techrights-news"Every generation has an instrument which defines its sound, and for those whose formative musical years lie in the 1980s, a very strong contender to the crown is the Roland TR-808 percussion synthesizer." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/12/how-the-roland-808-cowbell-worked/ | Source: HackadayMay 13 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How The Roland 808 Cowbell Worked | HackadayMay 13 07:47
techrights-news"Florida and Texas both passed blatantly unconstitutional laws limiting the ability of social media websites to moderate." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/12/the-5th-circuit-reinstates-texas-obviously-unconstitutional-social-media-law-effective-immediately/ | Source: TechdirtMay 13 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The 5th Circuit Reinstates Texas’ Obviously Unconstitutional Social Media Law Effective Immediately | TechdirtMay 13 07:47
techrights-newsTexas ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/12/just-how-incredibly-fucked-up-is-texas-social-media-content-moderation-law/ | Source: TechdirtMay 13 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Just How Incredibly Fucked Up Is Texas’ Social Media Content Moderation Law? | TechdirtMay 13 07:47
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techrights-news"Anyone who’s ever assembled a PCB full of tiny SMD parts will have found that tweezers are not always the best tool" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/12/hackaday-prize-2022-salvaged-pumps-and-hoses-make-a-neat-vacuum-pickup-tool/ | Source: HackadayMay 13 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Prize 2022: Salvaged Pumps And Hoses Make A Neat Vacuum Pickup Tool | HackadayMay 13 07:53
techrights-news"Nine years ago, MakerBot was acquired by Stratasys in a deal worth slightly north of $600 million." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/12/makerbot-and-ultimaker-to-merge-focus-on-industry/ | Source: HackadayMay 13 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MakerBot And Ultimaker To Merge, Focus On Industry | HackadayMay 13 07:54
techrights-news"dedication to bridging the digital divide" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/12/heres-a-map-of-states-that-had-to-map-u-s-broadband-due-to-federal-corruption-and-incompetence/ | Source: TechdirtMay 13 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here’s A Map Of States That Had To Map U.S. Broadband Due To Federal Corruption And Incompetence | TechdirtMay 13 07:54
techrights-news"warrantless long-term surveillance" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/12/kansas-federal-court-says-ten-weeks-of-pole-camera-surveillance-isnt-a-constitutional-violation/ | Source: TechdirtMay 13 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kansas Federal Court Says Ten Weeks Of Pole Camera Surveillance Isn’t A Constitutional Violation | TechdirtMay 13 07:55
techrights-newsPeople who protest mass surveillance from a "smart" phone are like the people who protest capitalism while sipping $5 cups of coffee at Starbucks (to plan their "actions").May 13 07:56
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techrights-news"No matter your project or field of endeavor, simulation is a useful tool for finding out what you don’t know." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/12/can-you-help-nasa-build-a-mars-sim-in-vr/ | Source: HackadayMay 13 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can You Help NASA Build A Mars Sim In VR? | HackadayMay 13 07:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aboutbsd.net | All Good Things Must Come to An End | Blogging All About BSDMay 13 08:08
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techrights-news"Spring. Flowers. Hay fever. Linux distros aplenty." ☛ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-jammy.html | Source: DedoimedoMay 13 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enoughMay 13 08:10
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techrights-news"For YouTuber Jroobi, merely walking up to his front door, inserting a key into the lock and turning the handle was too simple" ☛ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/11/this-special-front-door-controller-has-several-ways-to-unlock-it/ | Source: ArduinoMay 13 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This special front door controller can be unlocked in several ways | Arduino BlogMay 13 08:11
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techrights-news"Well, the new 64MP 'Hawk-Eye' Pi camera takes the same autofocus system and straps it to an ultra-high-res 64 megapixel sensor" ☛ https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/64-megapixel-hawk-eye-brings-high-res-imaging-pi | Source: Jeff GeerlingMay 13 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | 64 megapixel 'Hawk-Eye' brings high-res imaging to the Pi | Jeff GeerlingMay 13 08:11
techrights-news"This revision supports two alternate footprints for the CAN-FD transceiver to better support component availability and refines the power stage for the DRV8353 gate driver." ☛ https://jpieper.com/2022/05/11/moteus-r4-11/ | Source: J PieperMay 13 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jpieper.com | moteus r4.11 | A Modicum of FunMay 13 08:12
techrights-news"Intel latest processors have new instruction sets (AVX-512) that are quite powerful." ☛ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/05/06/fast-bitset-decoding-using-intel-avx-512/ | Source: Daniel LemireMay 13 08:12
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techrights-news"At least two readers (Kim Walisch and Jatin Bhateja) pointed out that you could do better if you used the very latest AVX-512 instructions available on Intel processors with the Ice Lake or Tiger Lake microarchitectures." ☛ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/05/10/faster-bitset-decoding-using-intel-avx-512/ | Source: Daniel LemireMay 13 08:12
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techrights-news"In this article we will describe how we enabled basic telephony support on the Pinephone." ☛ https://genodians.org/ssumpf/2022-05-09-telephony |May 13 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-genodians.org | Pine fun - Telephony (_Roger, Roger_?)May 13 08:12
techrights-newsFedora Media Writer: World-Class LIVE USB Creator [Tutorial] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164793May 13 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Media Writer: World-Class LIVE USB Creator [Tutorial] | Tux MachinesMay 13 08:13
techrights-news"Having dealt with implementing dark mode myself, my second reaction was: wait, this should be part of the browser!" ☛ https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/browser-level-color-scheme-preference/ | Source: Jim NielsenMay 13 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | Rationale for a Browser-Level Color Scheme Preference - Jim Nielsen’s BlogMay 13 08:13
techrights-news"These colors weren’t really any safer since they’d be double-quantized on different palettes." ☛ https://idiomdrottning.org/link-colors | Source: IdiomdrottningMay 13 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idiomdrottning.org | Why are links blue and purple?May 13 08:13
techrights-newsThere is a "supply chain" CRISIS IN SOFTWARE!!!! Say companies that work for the NSA. LOL!May 13 08:15
techrights-news"Netflix already raised prices earlier this year, and with inflation at a 40-year high" ☛ https://variety.com/vip/why-a-password-sharing-crackdown-wont-help-netflix-much-1235264329/ | Source: VarietyMay 13 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why a Password-Sharing Crackdown Won't Help Netflix Much - VarietyMay 13 08:20
techrights-news"rapper wields the controversial technology to transform into Will Smith, Jussie Smollett" ☛ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/does-kendrick-lamar-run-afoul-of-copyright-law-by-using-deepfakes-in-the-heart-part-5-1235145596/ | Source: Hollywood ReporterMay 13 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Deepfakes and Copyright Law in Kendrick Lamar’s “The Heart Part 5”? – The Hollywood ReporterMay 13 08:20
techrights-news[Old] "The Right of Publicity concerns itself with the right to control the commercial use of one’s identity." ☛ https://rightofpublicity.com/brief-history-of-rop |May 13 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rightofpublicity.com | Right Of Publicity » A Concise History of the Right of PublicityMay 13 08:20
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techrights-news"In programming, in contrast, we rarely talk about our influences" ☛ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/programming_style_influences.html | Source: Lawrence TrattMay 13 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tratt.net | Laurence Tratt: Programming Style InfluencesMay 13 08:21
techrights-news"Why do we need this in the first place? Unfortunately standard AWK doesn’t have a way to handle CSV files with quoted fields" ☛ https://benhoyt.com/writings/goawk-csv/?m | Source: Ben HoytMay 13 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benhoyt.com | Modernizing AWK, a 45-year old language, by adding CSV supportMay 13 08:22
techrights-news[Old] "AWK is a text-processing language with a history spanning more than 40 years." ☛ https://lwn.net/Articles/820829/ | Source: LWNMay 13 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The state of the AWK [LWN.net]May 13 08:22
techrights-news"Python packages like pandas have several ways to work with data" ☛ https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/05/three-packages-that-port-the-tidyverse-to-python/ | Source: RlangMay 13 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Three packages that port the tidyverse to Python | R-bloggersMay 13 08:22
techrights-news"In each case the key is the collaboration." ☛ https://www.sicpers.info/2022/05/on-interviewing-and-generalist-software-engineers/ | Source: SICPMay 13 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sicpers.info | On interviewing and generalist software engineers | Structure and Interpretation of Computer ProgrammersMay 13 08:23
techrights-news"The actual quality of the courses was a bit of a mixed bag." ☛ https://sporks.space/2022/05/11/my-experience-at-community-college/ | Source: The Sporks SpaceMay 13 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sporks.space | My experience at community college - the sporks spaceMay 13 08:23
techrights-news"Let’s talk about a career in tech, but not the usual boring stuff about salary or how to pass the interview process at the place with the most oversized comp packages" ☛ https://earthly.dev/blog/line-staff/ | Source: EarthlyMay 13 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-earthly.dev | The Other Kind of Staff Software Engineer - Earthly BlogMay 13 08:23
techrights-newsLinks 12/05/2022: AlmaLinux OS 8.6 and LibreOffice 7.2.7 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/12/libreoffice-7-2-7/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/12/libreoffice-7-2-7/May 13 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/05/2022: AlmaLinux OS 8.6 and LibreOffice 7.2.7 | TechrightsMay 13 08:29
techrights-news"Take Bill Gates. Forget all the conspiracy theories about Gates and vaccines – it's bizarre that people bother to make up those fairy-tales when the truth is so much worse." ☛ https://pluralistic.net/2022/05/11/a-dent-in-the-universe/#eminently-guillotineable | Source: CoryDoctorowMay 13 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 11 May 2022 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowMay 13 08:32
techrights-newsWindows TCO: "Finland should brace for Russian cyber attacks" ☛ https://yle.fi/news/3-12443701 | Source: YLEMay 13 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Finland should brace for Russian cyber attacks, Traficom says | News | Yle UutisetMay 13 08:33
techrights-news"QR codes have been in the news recently, and for good reason" ☛ https://blog.bithole.dev/discord-qr-phish.html | Source: Adriaan ZhangMay 13 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.bithole.dev | Discord QR Code PhishingMay 13 08:33
techrights-news"Notwithstanding its exit from the European Union, the British police will remain a member of a Standing Heads of Lawful Interception Units based at Europol." ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/05/12/encrypted-communication-britain-remains-member-of-eu-interception-group/ | Source: Site36May 13 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Encrypted communication: UK remains member of EU interception group – Security Architectures in the EUMay 13 08:36
techrights-news"The GnuPG command line tool gpg is the most popular implementation of the OpenPGP specification." ☛ https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2022/05/11/202205-sq-gpg-comparison/ | Source: SequoiaPGPMay 13 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sequoia-pgp.org | Blog - sq feature comparison with gpgMay 13 08:37
techrights-news"oh wow yeah this looks so clean & stripped down from all the bloated pages out there" ☛ https://idiomdrottning.org/better-website | Source: IdiomdrottningMay 13 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idiomdrottning.org | Better WebsiteMay 13 08:37
techrights-news"Georgetown has a new report on the highly secretive bulk surveillance activities of ICE in the US: [...]" ☛ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/ice-is-a-domestic-surveillance-agency.html | Source: Bruce SchneierMay 13 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ICE Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency - Schneier on SecurityMay 13 08:37
techrights-news"leading the effort to expose and dissever ICE’s American dragnet." ☛ https://americandragnet.org/ |May 13 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-americandragnet.org | American Dragnet | Data-Driven Deportation in the 21st CenturyMay 13 08:37
techrights-news"That’s why this tip comes in hand." [sic] ☛ https://afhub.dev/2022/05/10/remove-metadata-from-photos-on-iphone/ | Source: Andre FrancaMay 13 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-afhub.dev | Remove metadata from photos on iphoneMay 13 08:37
techrights-news"EU Commissioner Ylva Johannson announced a new law to combat online child sex abuse." ☛ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/05/11/european-commission-prefers-breaking-privacy-to-protecting-kids/ | Source: Light Blue TouchpaperMay 13 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightbluetouchpaper.org | European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids | Light Blue TouchpaperMay 13 08:37
techrights-newsGames: Stellaris 3.4, Steam Deck, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164794May 13 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stellaris 3.4, Steam Deck, and More | Tux MachinesMay 13 08:39
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 12, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/13/irc-log-120522/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/13/irc-log-120522/May 13 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 12, 2022 | TechrightsMay 13 08:42
techrights-news"Below the fold I look this gift horse in the mouth." ☛ https://blog.dshr.org/2022/05/a-blockchain-certificate-of-deposit.html | Source: David RosenthalMay 13 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: A "Blockchain Certificate of Deposit"May 13 08:43
mateyone of my favourite people on youtube (no i wont say who, because at the moment i dont want to promote, im still evaluating him and i dont want another dt-like disappointment, though on youtube its always a hazard) is dissing hyperbola as impossible and ill-advisedMay 13 08:57
mateyi actually think his argument is well-intended and theres SOME reason to itMay 13 08:58
mateyim not endorsing this argument, im only defending the person making it.May 13 08:58
techrights-news"Here is Agrawal’s memo to employees in its entirety: [...]" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/12/23068985/twitter-memo-parag-agrawal-firing-execs-hiring-freeze | Source: The VergeMay 13 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Here’s Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal’s memo about firing execs and a hiring freeze - The VergeMay 13 08:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▄▁▅▆▆▄▅▆▅▅▄▅▆▄▅▄▇▇▅▃▃▅▇▅▇▇▆▆▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 25.76 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▃▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 15.08▕ swarm size (avg): 428.80  ⟲May 13 08:59
techrights-news"The paper proposes Nine Pillars of Digital Justice, the first three of which are preconditions, and the the latter are rights." ☛ https://rubenerd.com/tnls-nine-pillars-of-digital-justice/ | Source: Ruben SchadeMay 13 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: TNL’s Nine Pillars of Digital JusticeMay 13 08:59
mateyhyperbolabsd is the closest thing under the fsf umbrella that has any chance (> 0) of moving free software forward, rather than backwards or in circles.May 13 08:59
techrights-news"If we did that, we'd have to send him back to Germany." ☛ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-front-page-10-years-on-why-is-kim-dotcom-still-in-nz/V4EI36PFIYLS7YHYJGLQ73JWHY/ | Source: New Zealand HeraldMay 13 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nzherald.co.nz | The Front Page: 10 years on - Why is Kim Dotcom still in NZ? - NZ HeraldMay 13 08:59
mateyit deserves a fair shake. unfortunately its sort of a ginger stepchild, caught between two worldsMay 13 08:59
mateyopenbsd will never support it, because theo (and crew) dont believe in the gplMay 13 09:00
techrights-news"Lawyers acting for former Megaupload coders Bram van der Kolk and Mathias Ortmann" ☛ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/megaupload-case-deal-done-now-only-kim-dotcom-facing-extradition-prospect-of-united-states-prison-cell/W666X7JXMDOUYVPVRTWIWEOPNQ/ | Source: New Zealand HeraldMay 13 09:00
mateynote that theo de raadt makes the BEST arguments against the gpl ive ever heardMay 13 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nzherald.co.nz | Megaupload case: Deal done, now only Kim Dotcom facing extradition, prospect of United States prison cell - NZ HeraldMay 13 09:00
techrights-news"we have reached an agreement with the New Zealand Government" ☛ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/kim-dotcom-ap-new-zealand-megaupload-wellington-b2075299.html | Source: The Independent UKMay 13 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | 2 make deal, leaving just Kim Dotcom facing US extradition | The IndependentMay 13 09:00
matey(im sceptical that he knows what hes talking about)May 13 09:00
techrights-news"The deal by former Megaupload officers Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk" ☛ https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/kim-dotcom-faces-u-s-extradition-after-pair-make-deal-1.5896063 | Source: CTV NewsMay 13 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10517 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/kim-dotcom-faces-u-s-extradition-after-pair-make-deal-1.5896063 )May 13 09:00
techrights-news"Following the Russian invasion on February 24, Ukraine's fibre optic or cellular communication infrastructure connections were severed." ☛ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/russia-ramping-up-cyber-attacks-against-starlink-musk/91516169 | Source: India TimesMay 13 09:01
mateymy approach to the gpl is scientific. we need more data. if people want to use gpl im NOT against it.May 13 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | starlink: Russia ramping up cyber attacks against Starlink: Musk, CIO News, ET CIOMay 13 09:01
mateyive used it. i prefer 3 to 2.May 13 09:01
techrights-news"I need to believe that the world isn’t full of people eager to create more pain for a bereaved parent" ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/11/opinion/vaccines-antivaxxers-pregnancy.html | Source: New York TimesMay 13 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | I Lost My Baby. Then Antivaxxers Made My Pain Go Viral. - The New York TimesMay 13 09:01
mateyunlike with linux, stuck at gpl 2, we COULD fork the openbsd kernel and make it gpl 3 or later.May 13 09:01
techrights-news"The manual recommends that activists locate C.P.C.s near abortion facilities," ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/05/12/opinion/crisis-pregnancy-centers-roe.html | Source: New York TimesMay 13 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Pregnant? Need Help? They Have an Agenda. - The New York TimesMay 13 09:01
mateysome people here are worried about "or later" under a failing fsf regime. theres reason in that argument as well.May 13 09:02
mateyi dont conflate reason with realism, or a good argument with a sound conclusion.May 13 09:02
techrights-news"The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis has found that major U.S. meat processors made “baseless” claims about meat shortages in order to convince the Trump administration to issue an executive order to keep plants operating as Covid-19 was ravaging the nation in the spring of 2020." ☛ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-meat-producers-covid-19-1352405/ | Source: Rolling StoMay 13 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Meat Producers, Trump Admin. Lied about Shortages to Keep Plants Open - Rolling StoneMay 13 09:02
mateyi dont think we have the answers to these questions yet-- but most people act like these are solved problemsMay 13 09:02
mateythe matter of permissive vs copyleft is NOT solved yet-- we DONT have a winnerMay 13 09:02
mateyi think its going to be years (minimum) before we honestly know which one is REALLY betterMay 13 09:03
mateyi think if we start with a healthy fsf, the gpl is probably the best bet-- 3 or laterMay 13 09:03
mateywithout a healthy fsf, i dont think we have enough data yet.May 13 09:03
techrights-news"Today, the European Commission presented publicly for the first time an EU draft law on mandatory chat control." ☛ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-chat-control-bill-fundamental-rights-terrorism-against-trust-self-determination-and-security-on-the-internet/ | Source: Patrick BreyerMay 13 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | EU chat control bill: fundamental rights terrorism against trust, self-determination and security on the Internet – Patrick BreyerMay 13 09:03
techrights-news"E-reader apps haven’t replaced printed books, which schools and libraries often still buy because they own the paper versions, whereas e-books are licensed from publishers for a set period of time." ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/library-apps-book-ban-schools-conservative-parents-rcna26103 | Source: NBCMay 13 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Book ban efforts by conservative parents take aim at library appsMay 13 09:03
mateythat doesnt mean everyone should just switch to permissive.May 13 09:04
mateythe best arguments FOR the gpl come not from the fsf, actually, but from the original makers of x11.May 13 09:04
mateypeople should be more familiar with this debate. its not in any way one-sidedMay 13 09:04
techrights-newsPoliticians: we need to spy on everything on the Web and social control media to stop terrorists. As if terrorists coordinate terror attacks in Twitter "private messages...."May 13 09:05
mateynote that this sort of rant started about hyperbolabsd. thats important contextMay 13 09:05
mateywith no support from openbsd, and no support (only technical approval) from the fsfMay 13 09:05
mateyhyperbolabsd deserves its day in the court of public opinion, WITHOUT the obvious biases from theo or even rms.May 13 09:06
mateya fair trial, so to speakMay 13 09:06
mateyit hasnt had that yetMay 13 09:06
mateyand yet its the best opportunity, for a fork of openbsd that is more free and even more friendlyMay 13 09:07
mateya better os than gnu/penguinshit.May 13 09:07
mateybut its never easy to say that in the early days-- like when gnu first chose an impossible kernel (it is)May 13 09:07
mateyand then got saddled with the kanye west of kernels, which would lead to the destruction of the projectMay 13 09:08
mateyif you want gnu to survive, in some form,May 13 09:08
mateyhyperbola COULD be the best (at least the most obvious) route away from the destruction and towards something usefulMay 13 09:08
mateybut like gnu itself, originallyMay 13 09:08
mateythe best things are a long shotMay 13 09:08
mateya moonshot.May 13 09:08
mateyif youre looking for a userfriendly way to get to the moonMay 13 09:08
mateyin the late 1960s, no lessMay 13 09:09
mateyyoure fucked, sorry.May 13 09:09
mateygrand goals require grand efforts.May 13 09:09
mateyif youre content with mediocrity and fatal compromise, theres "always" gnu/linuxMay 13 09:09
mateya microsoft joint. have fun with that.May 13 09:09
mateyotherwise, theres a frontier ahead.May 13 09:10
mateyits not cozy, its not (always) comfortableMay 13 09:10
mateythough it is seriously a (major) relief to get away from ALL THAT BULLSHIT with gnu/penguinshitMay 13 09:10
mateywhich was fucking awful.May 13 09:10
mateynote that my own associates (whom i believe in, long term)May 13 09:10
mateydo not rely on hyperbolabsd or even openbsd to succeed.May 13 09:11
mateyit doesnt hinge on that.May 13 09:11
mateyand yet, i think right now, openbsd is one avenue that provides a route BACK towards users controlling their computingMay 13 09:11
mateyif you want to be pure about it-- all you have to do is NOT USE NON-FREE FIRMWAREMay 13 09:12
mateythen, leah (and many others, including de raadt) will tell you not to worry SO MUCH about non-free firmware eitherMay 13 09:12
mateyits a very nuanced and sometimes complicated argumentMay 13 09:12
mateybecause shunning non-free firmware arguably JUST ISNT working as a road to MORE freedomMay 13 09:13
mateywith drivers, openbsd has no non-free drivers. none.May 13 09:13
mateythey dont want to write and rewrite firmware, and theyre only one project. one os. not a movement.May 13 09:13
mateythe fsf policy on firmware is putting people on old hardware, in a way that isnt nearly as true for free drivers.May 13 09:14
mateyid much rather be a purist about it. thats EXACTLY why hyperbolabsd should get more attention.May 13 09:14
mateytheyre the ones standing for no non-free firmware in a real os.May 13 09:15
mateyas someone who would much rather be a purist about it...May 13 09:15
mateywhen all the people who understand hardware and that side of things are saying-- even people who are worthy of better awards than the free software awardMay 13 09:16
mateythis wont workMay 13 09:16
mateywe should hear them outMay 13 09:16
mateyi dont even LIKE what im hearingMay 13 09:17
mateyi dont LIKE global warmingMay 13 09:17
mateyid prefer that we could just keep flushing the planet down the toilet and you know, it would be just fineMay 13 09:18
mateythat would be niceMay 13 09:18
techrights-newsMoosync - music player • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164795May 13 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moosync - music player | Tux MachinesMay 13 09:18
mateyid prefer that we could just source an endless supply of nazi laptops from 2008 and use those for fsdg compliance, you knowMay 13 09:18
mateyand put hyperbola on them, and be totally fucking freeMay 13 09:18
mateyIF IT WORKSMay 13 09:18
mateyi dont believe that if a movement fails at somethingMay 13 09:19
mateyand it REALLY DOESMay 13 09:19
mateywe should prop it up with marketing and bullshit-- i dont believe in thatMay 13 09:19
mateyits why i hate the fsfMay 13 09:19
mateytheyre lying and bullshitting.May 13 09:19
mateyyou know what you get when you lie and bullshit for freedom?May 13 09:19
mateyyou get fake freedom. you get non-freedom. you get bullshit freedom.May 13 09:20
mateythats what we have.May 13 09:20
mateyso if something fails-- and im being specific here, about firmwareMay 13 09:20
mateyid rather consider someone reasonable but honestMay 13 09:20
mateyover someone idealistic (even if theyre MY ideals) but also full of shit.May 13 09:20
mateythe fsf is full of shit.May 13 09:21
mateyfree software (of the fully free variety) is what i wantMay 13 09:21
mateyi want free hardware TOO. not instead.May 13 09:21
mateyhow can we get there?May 13 09:21
mateypeople who are content to be told, to be lied to, to hear a NICE STORYMay 13 09:21
mateythey can go with the fsf.May 13 09:21
mateywith that said-- as a ginger stepchild, hyperbola has less motive to bullshit peopleMay 13 09:22
mateyi havent seen them pushing kool-aid on anyone (unless you consider trying to remove non-free firmware kool-aid. i dont, depending on how you push it)May 13 09:22
mateyso if hyperbola is the only honest part of the fsf leftMay 13 09:23
mateyand i think it probably isMay 13 09:23
mateyand theyre not really part of the fsfMay 13 09:23
mateymore like an offshoot projectMay 13 09:23
mateyan offshoot gnu, even.May 13 09:23
mateytheyre just trying too hard to do too good thing for people to fucking ignore them this wayMay 13 09:23
mateyunless theyre bullshit-- which i havent seen yetMay 13 09:24
techrights-news"Ah, this takes me back. I got my first computer back in 1984, and if I wanted to know anything about it I was on my own. Google didn't exist (the public Internet didn't exist at the time). I didn't have anyone I could ask about computer related things" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/12.2May 13 09:24
mateyso really, really, hyperbola needs a fairer shakeMay 13 09:24
mateyeven if it takes them another 5 years to make a simple install iso for hyperbola bsdMay 13 09:24
mateywhat theyre trying to do is so ideal, it would be worth the waitMay 13 09:24
mateyi understand that it might go nowhereMay 13 09:25
mateyi think the people there are better than the people making devuanMay 13 09:25
techrights-newsSane YouTube FPS on FireFox on OpenBSD gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/05-13-sane-youtube-fps-on-firefox-on-openbsd.gmiMay 13 09:25
mateyand devuan is a joke.May 13 09:25
mateya joke i gave money and equipment to (well, thats more true than not)May 13 09:25
techrights-news"The last two years of covid lockdown and stuff was extremely painful and isolating for me and i only just now feel like I’m mentally calibrated and getting back on track emotionally" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmiMay 13 09:26
mateyi gave it to one of their developers for a closely (99%) related os project.May 13 09:26
mateybut devuan is still a jokeMay 13 09:26
mateyits become oneMay 13 09:26
mateyit became one too quicklyMay 13 09:26
mateyand hyperbolabsd hasnt, unless you consider it simply too ambitiousMay 13 09:26
mateywhich to be fair (to the critics) is exactly the problem hurd hadMay 13 09:27
mateyit is a different kind of ambitious though.May 13 09:27
mateyhurd has a templeos-like quality to itMay 13 09:27
activelowwhich is?May 13 09:27
mateyin that the design is insane, and complicated, and the justification seems a bit pie-in-the-skyMay 13 09:27
mateyafter all these years i think its mostly tied to x86, but ive heard mitigations, but i dont think they mitigate anything completelyMay 13 09:28
mateyi think realistically, practically, youre stuck with x86-- a platform that is dying but wont die soon enoughMay 13 09:28
mateyon top of the fact that its impossible to find people (especially good people) who can bring hurd forwardMay 13 09:29
mateyso linux took over. oops. really, the fsf should have treated bsd, NOT linux, as an allyMay 13 09:29
mateysince they both know what its like to be overshadowed by an absolute cunt from finland.May 13 09:30
activelowapropos... struggling with termcaps, and vi currentlyMay 13 09:30
mateylinux is a twat of a kernel, and the people who represent it, are only trying to sell apple.May 13 09:30
activelowdecided to ditch Vim, trying elvis... and lurking into nvi now which i scrape from gentoo archiveMay 13 09:30
mateyfor fucks sakeMay 13 09:30
mateythis is the hill the fsf wants to, will, die onMay 13 09:30
mateythey want to die for the same bullshit that exploited them and then took them hostage.May 13 09:31
mateyfailed software foundation.May 13 09:31
techrights-newsONLYOFFICE Docs v7.1 released: ARM compatibility, PDF to DOCX conversion, Print preview in spreadsheets and more • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164796May 13 09:31
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activelowtbh. i really think gnome isn't, how should i say, something to keepMay 13 09:31
mateyhyperbola isnt trying to reinvent the kernel, and is unlike hurd that wayMay 13 09:31
mateyrather, as the fsf should be doingMay 13 09:32
mateyhyperbolas insanity is to simply take something good and useful and try to make it more freeMay 13 09:32
activelowand whatever else, gcc, ...May 13 09:32
mateyand free software is so sold out, aimless and upside-downMay 13 09:32
mateyit cant appreciate the only people trying to do what the fsf USED to doMay 13 09:32
mateyinstead, stallman goes on lieplanet 2022b and says "if we had more people" May 13 09:33
mateyif we had more peopleMay 13 09:33
mateythen we could do somethingMay 13 09:33
mateywhat does hyperbola sayMay 13 09:33
mateyeven if we dont have more people, we will just keep tryingMay 13 09:33
mateyfree software didnt start with many peopleMay 13 09:34
mateybut it stood for somethingMay 13 09:34
mateynow it stands for nothing, but it has more peopleMay 13 09:34
mateyhyperbola: its not much, but its honestMay 13 09:34
mateyfsf: its not honest, but its (still not much)May 13 09:34
mateyits fucking backwards that people give money to have people silence, smear and lie to them.May 13 09:35
mateythey give money to lieplanet-36May 13 09:35
mateybut they wont even give an HONEST EVALUATION of hyperbolaMay 13 09:35
mateythey dont careMay 13 09:35
mateyfree software is MOSTLY bullshit at this pointMay 13 09:35
mateybut, since the alternatives are MORE bullshitMay 13 09:35
techrights-newsAll Good Things Must Come to An End | Blogging All About BSD • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164797May 13 09:35
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mateyand free software is a very important causeMay 13 09:36
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mateythe only REAL hope it has is to look for various efforts that CONTINUE to actually stand for anythingMay 13 09:36
mateyand support those-- AT LEAST with information, if not money and equipment.May 13 09:36
mateyits literally the least a real movement can doMay 13 09:36
mateyinstead, May 13 09:36
mateyit contends itself with mediocrity and lies.May 13 09:37
mateybravo, lieplanet.May 13 09:37
mateyyoure fucking frauds.May 13 09:37
mateybut heyMay 13 09:37
mateyso are most people these daysMay 13 09:37
mateymost organisationsMay 13 09:37
mateylying to people, so theyll be suckers who spread lies.May 13 09:37
mateysuckers who believe theres nothing better on the horizonMay 13 09:37
mateytheres not much, its trueMay 13 09:38
mateybut id take something better over nothing better ever again.May 13 09:38
mateyinstead, we get lieplanet and the fsf? May 13 09:38
mateythat makes no sense. keep looking.May 13 09:38
mateyand if people wont give hyperbola a fair shakeMay 13 09:38
mateysomeone at least, should try harder to see to it that they do.May 13 09:38
mateyat least part of this is hyperbolas faultMay 13 09:39
mateythey REALLY REALLY *REALLY* suck at self-promotionMay 13 09:39
mateywhich is, it should be noted, what they used to say about the fsfMay 13 09:39
mateytoday, self-promotion is about all the fsf even doesMay 13 09:39
mateya typical fate for an old 501c3May 13 09:39
mateywe can do betterMay 13 09:40
mateywhat choice do we haveMay 13 09:40
mateyon the other side of the argumentMay 13 09:41
mateyjust to be fair (read: honest) to the shorter-long-road-to-free-firmware peopleMay 13 09:42
mateythe ones who dont think "just use an old thinkpad" is a road to a free-firmware futureMay 13 09:42
mateytheir argument isnt only more nuancedMay 13 09:43
mateyits also (clearly) more informedMay 13 09:43
mateyand they too (like hyperbolaMay 13 09:43
mateydeserve a fair trial in the court of public opnion (even if the public obviously sucks at this)May 13 09:43
mateythese are solutions to the same problem, coming from opposite methodologiesMay 13 09:44
activelowseems nvi editor hasn't got unicode...May 13 09:44
mateyuntil we have more dataMay 13 09:44
mateyboth deserve better evaluationMay 13 09:44
mateythe fsf wont botherMay 13 09:44
mateytheyre happy to go in circles until the money stops comingMay 13 09:45
mateytheyre going to go back to corporate sponsorsMay 13 09:45
mateyi meanMay 13 09:45
mateythey still shill for corporate bullshit as much as ever beforeMay 13 09:46
mateyif theyre not getting paid for it, thats progress in a senseMay 13 09:46
mateybut all the shills they welcome and supportMay 13 09:46
mateyi mean, hooray for not taking bribes.May 13 09:46
mateyboo for bringing identical results, to the results it would bring if you DID take bribes.May 13 09:47
mateyi dont know what more needs to be said about the fsf for people to have a fucking clueMay 13 09:47
mateymaybe you can just hand out cluebats with a diagram of how to use itMay 13 09:47
mateyand hope that people find a way to hit themselves with it.May 13 09:47
mateythe truth is, given timeMay 13 09:48
mateypeople will figure this out. but thats too long a wait, to not give it a push.May 13 09:48
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mateyand i guess the librecomputer roc renegade is worth a lookMay 13 09:49
mateyi swear i had one of thoseMay 13 09:50
mateyi didnt look at it too muchMay 13 09:50
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techrights-newsNvidia takes first step toward open source Linux GPU drivers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748#comment-33648May 13 09:51
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leahmatey: in the past, firmware was almost always on a rom/flash on the deviceMay 13 09:53
leahnowadays, to cut costs, companies do away with that and have firmware be uploaded by the driverMay 13 09:54
leahit saves a few cents per card/deviceMay 13 09:54
leahthat seems small, but at scale we're talking billionsMay 13 09:54
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leahnot just in terms of hardware cost, but development cost/timeMay 13 09:54
leahif the firmware is separate from the hardware, handled by your os instead, that means the company can develop the hardware faster, and fix any bugs in firmware laterMay 13 09:55
leahfor this reason, i actually think it's better that firmware be handled by your kernelMay 13 09:55
leahand i want that firmware to be there. not including it is technically ignorant in this context, because it ignores the fact that your linux-libre-compatible device just has the same kind of firmware baked inMay 13 09:56
leahfirmware-in-linux is a good thing, because:May 13 09:56
leah1) it can be RE'd and replaced with libre firmware laterMay 13 09:56
leah2) even without #1, or with #1, you can get updates to fix bugsMay 13 09:56
leahi regard it as superior, and even desirableMay 13 09:56
mateythis is what i meanMay 13 09:56
mateyits an INFORMED processMay 13 09:56
leahin terms of freedom, it makes zero difference to the old way of doing itMay 13 09:56
mateythe fsf for some reason-- cant provide thatMay 13 09:57
leahin terms of freedom out of the box, that isMay 13 09:57
leahthe fsf's policies were correct 10 years agoMay 13 09:57
leahwellMay 13 09:57
leahthey were still wrong in theory, but worked in practiseMay 13 09:57
leahnowadays, those policies are no longer practicalMay 13 09:57
mateythis is why we need these debatesMay 13 09:57
leahand should be reformedMay 13 09:57
mateynot intellectual pissing matches-- i mean debate in the higher sense of the wordMay 13 09:57
leahmatey: i'm planning a major change to libreboot, on this basisMay 13 09:57
leahi'm going to *scrap* osboot and merge it with librebootMay 13 09:58
mateyid really like to endorse osbootMay 13 09:58
mateyi really really wouldMay 13 09:58
leahand make libreboot have a more debian-like policyMay 13 09:58
mateyin some ways, i cant yet.May 13 09:58
mateybutMay 13 09:58
mateywhat i will do insteadMay 13 09:58
leahlibreboot will stay as it is right now, for existing supported boardsMay 13 09:58
mateyis endorse the idea that everyone give it a fair evaluationMay 13 09:58
leahboards where coreboot is all libre, but neutered ME is needed, those will also go in libreboot, in the main branch evenMay 13 09:58
mateybecause thats something i believe it should definitely haveMay 13 09:58
leahwhy? because intel ME firmware isn't part of coreboot. it could just aswell be on another chipMay 13 09:58
leahthe flash is partitioned that wayMay 13 09:59
leahi regard x230 with osboot as no different freedom-wise to x200 with librebootMay 13 09:59
mateyas much as i hate debian nowMay 13 09:59
mateyim extremely fond of many of their old policiesMay 13 09:59
leahlibreboot's policy will evolve to be more like debianMay 13 09:59
leahthere is an exception:May 13 09:59
mateythey were part of the reason i loved debian in the first placeMay 13 09:59
leahwhere a board does need blobs in coreboot, those will also be present, but separatedMay 13 09:59
leahinto another branchMay 13 09:59
mateygoodMay 13 10:00
leahsimilar to debian non-free/contrib repoMay 13 10:00
leahsoMay 13 10:00
leahas you can see:May 13 10:00
leahthis new policy will be very different from both the current libreboot *and* osboot projectsMay 13 10:00
leahit'll be even more nuancedMay 13 10:00
leahmore nuanced than current libreboot/osboot policiesMay 13 10:00
mateyits very freedom 4May 13 10:00
leahfreedom 4?May 13 10:00
leahfsf defines freedom 0 through 3May 13 10:01
leahwhat's 4?May 13 10:01
mateyhttps://techrights.org/2019/12/10/the-fifth-freedom-as-a-meme/May 13 10:01
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mateysomething i commissioned (there was no exchange of funds, goods or services)May 13 10:01
mateyi think we need it. i take the 4 freedoms seriously.May 13 10:01
leahokMay 13 10:02
mateythe 4 freedoms were built on an IMPLICIT fifth freedomMay 13 10:02
mateyanywayMay 13 10:02
leahyes, say what you want about the fsf but:May 13 10:02
leahthe four freedoms are paramountMay 13 10:02
mateyyesMay 13 10:02
mateywithout them theres no free softwareMay 13 10:02
leahthey at least get the fsd correctMay 13 10:02
leahfree software definitionMay 13 10:02
leahi support and adhere to itMay 13 10:02
mateyi compared the fsd to the constitution and then sent that comparison to lawrence lessigMay 13 10:03
mateyim a fan.May 13 10:03
leahbut the fsd is the only part i'm interested inMay 13 10:03
mateyits the best part at leastMay 13 10:03
leahideologically, i'm on the openbsd side of thingsMay 13 10:03
mateyusing it right nowMay 13 10:03
leahbut openbsd doesn't rigorously define what "free software" actually isMay 13 10:03
matey"its only the os gnu COULDVE been"May 13 10:03
leahthey just say: here's the code. everyone can use it. enjoyMay 13 10:03
mateyopenbsd isnt a movement, its an os.May 13 10:04
leahrightMay 13 10:04
mateywe need a movement, openbsd will still be an os.May 13 10:04
mateythats why they dont care about firmwareMay 13 10:04
mateythey dont WANT to write firmwareMay 13 10:04
leahyes, they limit the scope of their endeavourMay 13 10:04
leahit's very clever of themMay 13 10:04
mateyits sane.May 13 10:04
mateysanity doesnt always get a fair shakeMay 13 10:04
leahwell, sane isn't the right wordMay 13 10:05
mateyprobably because so few of us experience it on a regular basisMay 13 10:05
leahi would prefer the term "consistent"May 13 10:05
mateymaybe reasonableMay 13 10:05
leah"well defined"May 13 10:05
mateywhatever it is, it makes senseMay 13 10:05
mateyfor them at leastMay 13 10:05
leahthe bsd mentality is something you learn by simply using bsdMay 13 10:05
mateywhat do you think of root bsd May 13 10:06
mateythe guy, the channelMay 13 10:06
leahnever heard of itMay 13 10:06
mateyfair enoughMay 13 10:06
leahanyway, openbsd is very correctMay 13 10:06
leahthe way they do thingsMay 13 10:06
mateyhave you ever used a librecomputer roc renegade?May 13 10:06
leahnoMay 13 10:06
mateyokMay 13 10:06
leahbut that sounds interesting, just from the nameMay 13 10:07
mateyi may have owned oneMay 13 10:07
mateyvery brieflyMay 13 10:07
leahwhat is it?May 13 10:07
mateyoh its an socMay 13 10:07
mateyim always looking for things that get us closer to free hardwareMay 13 10:07
mateyi think this is free in the sense of the firmware it runsMay 13 10:07
mateynot free like free hardware will be when we really have free hardwareMay 13 10:08
mateylibre hardware, as you put itMay 13 10:08
mateyhp and apple both started literally in a garage May 13 10:08
mateyi think people should think about that when they think of sam zeloofMay 13 10:08
mateythis is how you change the worldMay 13 10:09
matey(red hat started in a flat in north carolina)May 13 10:09
leahmodern chips are fundamentally the same as what sam producesMay 13 10:09
leahthey started from that pointMay 13 10:09
leahthe companies slowly refined their processes over timeMay 13 10:09
leahthere is no reason why normal people can't do the sameMay 13 10:10
mateyits funny how people who work with iterative processes with software CONSTANTLYMay 13 10:10
mateydont understand that EVERYTHING works that wayMay 13 10:10
mateyevolution, business, science.May 13 10:10
mateyduh!May 13 10:10
leahexactlyMay 13 10:10
mateyhardwareMay 13 10:10
leahwhen you look at something that seems complex, it's actually very simple underneath, at a fundamental levelMay 13 10:10
mateythere seems to be this weird mythologyMay 13 10:10
leahhuman beings can't think in complex ways on a grand scaleMay 13 10:10
mateyor superstitionMay 13 10:11
mateythat software invented that sort of processMay 13 10:11
mateyit sped it up...May 13 10:11
leaha program you write that's tens of thousands of lines is probably only doing a few thingsMay 13 10:11
mateyit made it so you could see it in realtimeMay 13 10:11
mateybut that same kind of thing is everywhereMay 13 10:11
mateybut when stallman talks about free culture :/ or free hardwareMay 13 10:11
mateyhes likeMay 13 10:11
mateyseriously-- hes likeMay 13 10:11
leahwhat makes something complicated seem scary is that it's unknownMay 13 10:11
mateyno, only software can do thatMay 13 10:11
mateySOFTWARE IS DIFFERENT!May 13 10:12
mateyits NOT!!!! May 13 10:12
leahi have advice:May 13 10:12
leahstop thinking in terms of fsf/rmsMay 13 10:12
mateyi honestly dontMay 13 10:12
leahyour current thought pattern stems from comparing yourself to themMay 13 10:12
leahsimply be betterMay 13 10:12
leahand define yourself as your own thingMay 13 10:12
leahthat's what i've been trying to doMay 13 10:12
mateyyou dont have to believe me butMay 13 10:12
mateyim already there. ive been there, for years.May 13 10:12
mateywhat im trying to do isMay 13 10:13
mateyhelp OTHER PEOPLE stuck thereMay 13 10:13
leahi do believe you, based on our most recent conversationsMay 13 10:13
matey to get to where youre talking aboutMay 13 10:13
leahyou left the matrixMay 13 10:13
leahfsf = matrixMay 13 10:13
mateyyeah butMay 13 10:13
mateyfor me its turning a little bit into the 3rd filmMay 13 10:13
activelow... elvis seems too complicated... digging into nvi nowMay 13 10:13
mateyi want peace, but never peace without freedomMay 13 10:14
mateyand as much as i stood against the lies of open sourceMay 13 10:14
mateyi will stand against open source lies coming from the fsfMay 13 10:14
mateyi will even stand against free software liesMay 13 10:14
leahanyway, i will get back to my workMay 13 10:14
mateyany kind of lieMay 13 10:14
mateycheersMay 13 10:14
activelowit was wiped from the gentoo tree, in the archives it is still available, although no unicode there isn't iregularities at first glance, such as seen with elvis or busybox-viMay 13 10:14
leahi have stock purchases, plus several errands to doMay 13 10:15
mateythanks for the update (it was an update of a sort)May 13 10:15
mateyi dont envy your workload. good luckMay 13 10:15
leahthere is a purpose to the proposed libreboot/osboot mergerMay 13 10:15
mateyhow would it workMay 13 10:15
mateyit sounds impossibleMay 13 10:15
leahhow would it work?May 13 10:15
mateyor is that what you meant with the non-free repoMay 13 10:15
mateylike how debian does itMay 13 10:16
leahyeah, similar to debianMay 13 10:16
mateysorry ive got 2 and 2 and the sum, and im putting them together nowMay 13 10:16
matey2 + 2 = 4, got itMay 13 10:16
leahboth lbmk and osbmk (libreboot and osboot repos) will be discontinuedMay 13 10:16
mateywowMay 13 10:16
leahthe osbmk one will be copied to librebootstrapMay 13 10:16
matey :) thats going to piss off some people May 13 10:16
leahand then the repo will be called: librebootstrap.gitMay 13 10:16
leahmatey: yes, it willMay 13 10:16
leahbut who?May 13 10:17
mateywhen it does, i have a metaphorMay 13 10:17
mateydid you see robin hood men in tights?May 13 10:17
leahwho will it piss offMay 13 10:17
mateyeverMay 13 10:17
mateysilly people.May 13 10:17
mateyit will piss off silly peopleMay 13 10:17
leahyou mean fsf people?May 13 10:17
mateywith any luckMay 13 10:17
leahi've thought of what will happenMay 13 10:17
leahi bet one of them forks librebootMay 13 10:17
matey"look man, we dont need this bridge"May 13 10:17
leahbut the fork will die, if they fork it with intent to stick to current policyMay 13 10:17
matey"im on one side, im on the other side!"May 13 10:17
leahbecause then the fork will only be compatible with hardware you can't buyMay 13 10:18
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matey-- robin hood, men in tightsMay 13 10:18
matey"it doesnt matter, its the principle of the thing!"May 13 10:18
leahyou can't feasibly buy anything that libreboot currently supportsMay 13 10:18
leahsupply dried upMay 13 10:18
mateyyeah.May 13 10:18
leahthis is continuityMay 13 10:18
mateyi noticed that.May 13 10:18
mateyright!May 13 10:18
leahaccepting reality and doing the best with the current situationMay 13 10:18
leahi call it:May 13 10:18
leahpragmatismMay 13 10:18
mateyooh i hate that wordMay 13 10:18
mateyits a weasel word for sureMay 13 10:18
leahwhat word woul dyou use?May 13 10:18
mateyanything else. even a slur would be betterMay 13 10:19
mateybutMay 13 10:19
mateywhat youre actually doing sounds like a reasonable ideaMay 13 10:19
mateyand im quibbling over the word pragmatismMay 13 10:19
mateyi just hate that wordMay 13 10:19
leahthe main reason i did osboot as a separate project was precisely to test the watersMay 13 10:19
mateyopen source ruined itMay 13 10:19
leahi wanted to see what people would think of it, without actually doing itMay 13 10:19
mateyin fairness, the fsf has used it.May 13 10:19
leahand i find: osboot is getting popularMay 13 10:19
leahpeople like itMay 13 10:19
mateybecause its a good idea.May 13 10:19
mateyand sometimes, given timeMay 13 10:20
leahthe same kinds of people that liked libreboot, now like osbootMay 13 10:20
leahthey see it as a natural evolutionMay 13 10:20
mateypeople actually like good ideasMay 13 10:20
leahi've found that the exact same type of people who go for libreboot, go for osbootMay 13 10:20
leahthey see both as essentially the same projectMay 13 10:20
mateythey will tooMay 13 10:20
mateyfor what its worth, i think its probably inevitable at this pointMay 13 10:20
leahi'm confident that 95% of people will be happy/indifferent about the moveMay 13 10:20
mateyfor obvious reasons May 13 10:20
leahosboot started as an experiment outside of librebootMay 13 10:20
mateyby the wayMay 13 10:21
leahi always intended to merge it backMay 13 10:21
mateyexactly how dried up is the supply May 13 10:21
leahi was going to do an osboot back in 2016May 13 10:21
leahbut had to deal with personal stuff for a few years. i got back into dev back in 2020, and started the osboot projectMay 13 10:21
mateyim making a prediction about the fsf and osbootMay 13 10:22
mateyspecifically the mergeMay 13 10:22
leahwhat do you predict?May 13 10:22
mateythis is my prediction :) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PDP245bQ6FkMay 13 10:22
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mateyits 1:30 May 13 10:22
mateybut pricelessMay 13 10:22
mateysorry, i lied. 2:09May 13 10:23
mateythe best part is in the first 20 seconds thoughMay 13 10:23
leahthey won't do a damn thingMay 13 10:23
leahif they do, they loseMay 13 10:24
mateythats what theyre best at at this pointMay 13 10:24
mateydoing nothing and losingMay 13 10:24
mateyit really fucks me offMay 13 10:24
leahany action they take would end up promoting the new initiativeMay 13 10:24
mateybutMay 13 10:24
mateyim used to it tooMay 13 10:24
leahso they will do nothingMay 13 10:24
mateyyeahMay 13 10:24
mateytheyre going to become the fucking silent foundationMay 13 10:24
matey(they already are)May 13 10:24
mateythey cant talk about any effort to pull their sorry arses out of the quagmireMay 13 10:24
leahnow, tell meMay 13 10:24
mateythats what theyve painted themselves intoMay 13 10:24
leahwhat do you think happens to ryf libreboot sellers?May 13 10:25
mateydo not careMay 13 10:25
mateybut why do you askMay 13 10:25
leahme neither. but it's amusing to think aboutMay 13 10:25
leahpost-merge i meanMay 13 10:25
mateylolMay 13 10:25
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leahthey'll be in a very awkward positionMay 13 10:25
mateywaitMay 13 10:25
mateysomeoneMay 13 10:25
mateysomeoneMay 13 10:25
mateymight forkMay 13 10:25
mateyi dont think they willMay 13 10:25
mateylibreosboot :)May 13 10:26
mateyno, thatMay 13 10:26
leahthey willMay 13 10:26
leahand it will failMay 13 10:26
mateyhey! did you notice the linux kernel violates the fsdg?May 13 10:26
mateyi mean linux-libre doesMay 13 10:26
leahdid i notice?May 13 10:26
leahno, i didn't notice thatMay 13 10:26
mateylinux-libre violates the fsdgMay 13 10:26
leahhow does it violate fsdg?May 13 10:26
mateywell, i mean if you remake a distro rightMay 13 10:26
mateyto make it fsdgMay 13 10:26
mateyyou cant refer to the original distroMay 13 10:26
mateyyou cant call it libredebian for exampleMay 13 10:26
leahmehMay 13 10:27
mateyor librearchMay 13 10:27
mateybut linux-libre gets a free passMay 13 10:27
mateyits sheer exceptionalismMay 13 10:27
leahi'm meh'ing the fuck out of thatMay 13 10:27
mateywell i mean May 13 10:27
mateyits angels dancing on the head of a pin talkMay 13 10:27
mateyits just for funMay 13 10:27
mateyit means very littleMay 13 10:27
mateyit wont ever be a scandal because when all reasonable options have been exaustedMay 13 10:28
mateytheres nothing left but arbitrary exceptionsMay 13 10:28
leahit's a cult of people using computers that regularly kernel panic, do not have 3D acceleration and do not have functioning wifiMay 13 10:28
mateybut worse than thatMay 13 10:28
mateythey still suck off the same corporations they allegedly stand against the corruption ofMay 13 10:29
leahthey'll all hypocrites, every last one of themMay 13 10:29
matey"we dont hate microsoft, only the corrupted parts!"May 13 10:29
leahevery single one of themMay 13 10:29
matey"so, only 99.999% of it"May 13 10:29
leahthey do nothing to progress the movementMay 13 10:29
leahnothing at allMay 13 10:29
mateythey'll all hypocrites <- this is what im getting atMay 13 10:29
leahwhile actively discouraging othersMay 13 10:29
mateyi meanMay 13 10:29
mateyin the end, so is every last person butMay 13 10:29
leahi'm gonna get back to my workMay 13 10:29
leahwe've had this conversation alreadyMay 13 10:29
mateysome people are known for integrityMay 13 10:29
mateyyeahMay 13 10:29
mateycheersMay 13 10:29
leaheveryone knows the fsf sucksMay 13 10:30
mateybut theyre still afraid to say itMay 13 10:30
mateyit will make them bad people...May 13 10:30
mateytheyll have to leave the temple and enter the world again :|May 13 10:30
mateythe big bad world full of non-freedomMay 13 10:31
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mateynon-freedom lurking on every cornerMay 13 10:31
mateyand the only way they know to fight is JOIN US TODAY!May 13 10:31
mateyso we can teach you to be dependent on exceptionalismMay 13 10:31
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mateybetter that we teach people how to delete non-free softwareMay 13 10:32
mateyand make it easier to do soMay 13 10:32
mateythan to set up temples where it is done by priestsMay 13 10:32
mateyonly because theyve failed May 13 10:33
mateyi mean its probably better in terms of education tooMay 13 10:33
mateybut either way, the new fsf sucks at itMay 13 10:33
matey"here, eat your github, its good for you"May 13 10:33
matey"but i dont want" "shut up, there are kids mining coltan in third world countries! EAT YOUR GITHUB!"May 13 10:34
matey"its got a free license! shut up and eat it"May 13 10:34
leahfsf left the templeMay 13 10:35
leahwe're all still in itMay 13 10:35
activelowassume, i wanted to use elvis or nvi instead of vim, for one or another reason... unicode...May 13 10:36
mateyi really think the cult is corporate, and the fsf moved their temple into thatMay 13 10:36
leahlook at fsf.org on the wayback machine from 90s and early 2000sMay 13 10:36
mateyi doMay 13 10:36
mateyeven recentlyMay 13 10:36
leahyou'll see they were more pragmatic and reasonable in the pastMay 13 10:36
activelowthe reasoning ... elvis editor was stable for a decade or two... then unicode came alongMay 13 10:36
mateywell they had less paint to corner themselves withMay 13 10:36
leahthat's the fsf i supportMay 13 10:36
leahit no longer existsMay 13 10:36
leahand never willMay 13 10:37
mateygive it time, theyll paint everything in the world except the cornersMay 13 10:37
activelowsimilar situation, with gnome/gtk/harfbuzzMay 13 10:37
activelowawesomeMay 13 10:37
mateybut theyve nearly run out of paint tooMay 13 10:37
matey <leah> it no longer exist <- this is whats beautiful about historyMay 13 10:37
mateyits like recipeMay 13 10:37
mateythe cookies are goneMay 13 10:37
mateywe can make more!May 13 10:37
leahgod damnitMay 13 10:37
leahnow i want cookiesMay 13 10:37
mateysorryMay 13 10:38
leahit's okMay 13 10:38
leahi'll buy some later from the bakeryMay 13 10:38
leahi don't dare make themMay 13 10:40
leahbecause i'll make manyMay 13 10:40
leahand eat them all in a dayMay 13 10:40
leahi don't trust myself to exercise restraintMay 13 10:40
mateyyou could just put fewer on the panMay 13 10:40
leahplus i always end up eating the cookie dough, like half of it, before it even enters the ovenMay 13 10:40
mateythe sheet ratherMay 13 10:40
mateyplus i always end up eating the cookie dough <- you could make less dough tooMay 13 10:41
leahdoesn't work like thatMay 13 10:41
mateyyeah i know :)May 13 10:41
leahnot with meMay 13 10:41
mateynot with anyoneMay 13 10:41
leahi will eat it allMay 13 10:41
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mateyeat all the things!May 13 10:41
leahand not just the dough. but the chocolate tooMay 13 10:41
mateyyeah thats what i do for chocolate reallyMay 13 10:42
mateyi buy chipsMay 13 10:42
leahchips are worseMay 13 10:42
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164800May 13 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 10:42
mateywhat do you recommendMay 13 10:42
leahyou could literally murder me by handing me too many crispsMay 13 10:42
leahbecause i'll eat them allMay 13 10:42
leahand suffer a strokeMay 13 10:42
mateyoh no i meant chocolate chipsMay 13 10:42
leahno ideaMay 13 10:42
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164801May 13 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 10:42
techrights-newsDevices and Open Hardware leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164802May 13 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Open Hardware leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 10:42
mateywhat do you call the things you put in cookies?May 13 10:42
leahchocolate chips?May 13 10:43
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164803May 13 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 10:43
mateyyesMay 13 10:43
mateyok, same page nowMay 13 10:43
leahoh sorry i thought you were talking about potato chipsMay 13 10:43
leahwhich i call crispsMay 13 10:43
mateytayto = best onesMay 13 10:43
mateycheese and onionMay 13 10:43
leahis that a brand?May 13 10:43
leahnever seen it beforeMay 13 10:43
mateybig in northern irelandMay 13 10:44
leahi'm scanning the supermarket shelves in my head and i don't see itMay 13 10:44
leahmust just be an irish thingMay 13 10:44
mateymay have invented the first flavoured crispsMay 13 10:44
mateyi guarantee mjgs had themMay 13 10:44
leahmakes senseMay 13 10:44
leahirish people and potatoesMay 13 10:44
leahmakes sense they'd have better crisps tooMay 13 10:44
mateyyeah but-- in fairness to the rest of the ukMay 13 10:44
mateyi had some really good ones that were steak flavouredMay 13 10:45
mateyand those were british (but not from any part of ireland/ni)May 13 10:45
SomeH4x0rschestowitz: https://techrights.org/home 500 Internal Server ErrorMay 13 10:45
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leahanywayMay 13 10:45
SomeH4x0rI now go afkMay 13 10:45
leahwork to do!May 13 10:45
leahthanks for the chatMay 13 10:45
mateycheersMay 13 10:45
mateySomeH4x0r: http://techrights.org/index/ is loadingMay 13 10:46
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techrights-newsPublic Knowledge Applauds Bill Creating Digital Regulator To Rein In Big Tech https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-bill-creating-digital-regulator-to-rein-in-big-tech/May 13 11:00
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techrights-newsShiva Stella uses Microsoft lobbyists' term, "Big Tech", distracting from Microsoft's crimes. Well, Stella's "Public Knowledge" added a Microsofter to the Board. Maybe that's why...May 13 11:01
schestowitzSomeH4x0r: I think we had a load spike at that momentMay 13 11:07
schestowitzlet me know if it happens againMay 13 11:08
mateygrapheneos uses openbsd malloc May 13 11:14
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SomeH4x0rschestowitz: still doesn't workMay 13 11:28
SomeH4x0rmatey: /index/, but not /homeMay 13 11:32
SomeH4x0ralso, the user I'm telling about techrights, did ask why no onion serviceMay 13 11:32
matey[A[Aroy doesnt seem big on tor... i dont want to spread any bs about this, he doesnt seem entirely against it eitherMay 13 11:36
SomeH4x0ryou can come to UplinkIRC for now, I'm telling about techrights to a user thereMay 13 11:37
SomeH4x0runless they went afkMay 13 11:37
mateyim hereMay 13 11:38
mateyim not really interested in channel hoppingMay 13 11:38
mateyall this effort rarely results in so much as a single conversation, though barto and i did talk at least onceMay 13 11:39
SomeH4x0rI don't know what happened to barto. Probably memory issues.May 13 11:40
mateydrug-related?May 13 11:40
SomeH4x0rno. It is a common pattern I see on UplinkIRC among newcomers.May 13 11:40
SomeH4x0rThey sometimes even promise to stay, but leave soon regardlessMay 13 11:40
mateyyeah, its honestly a waste of time to teach people who have that sort of attention spanMay 13 11:41
mateyi mean im not against itMay 13 11:41
mateyif it happens, thats greatMay 13 11:41
mateybut its a lot of effort with very little returnMay 13 11:41
mateyalso, i think theres a mismatch (obviously) May 13 11:41
mateybetween their level of interestMay 13 11:41
mateyand anything we can offer themMay 13 11:41
mateyif they have a question, coolMay 13 11:42
SomeH4x0rthey come from Steam+Windows most of the timeMay 13 11:42
mateyrightMay 13 11:42
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SomeH4x0rI assume they are brainwashed by Discord too, but there is no direct evidence to sayMay 13 11:42
mateyso if they have a question, it can sometimes be answeredMay 13 11:42
mateya lot of the time though...May 13 11:42
mateyi mean most questions dont even have useful answersMay 13 11:42
mateyif youre just casually exploring from windows+steam May 13 11:42
mateyyou have to try stuff.May 13 11:42
mateyi tell people the best way to get familiar with any free softwarMay 13 11:43
mateybecause it really isMay 13 11:43
SomeH4x0rUplink game has a built-in IRC client. As this page [https://web.archive.org/web/20090913002159/http://www.multiwinia-ladder.net/flamebot.php] says, many don't even realize the purpose of it.May 13 11:43
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mateyyeah ive seen the built in client from the walkthrough of the gameMay 13 11:43
mateyive never played it-- but ive seen itMay 13 11:43
mateyive seen like half the gameMay 13 11:44
SomeH4x0rthere are some screenshots on mobygames, but behind clownflareMay 13 11:44
mateyive seen the beginning, the middle, the ending (two endings)May 13 11:44
mateyive seen pretty much all there is to see in the gameMay 13 11:44
SomeH4x0rSkywave did play it tooMay 13 11:45
mateyi think hes kind of a dickMay 13 11:46
mateybut thats what happens when you talk about politics onlineMay 13 11:46
mateyi do too, im sure MANY people think im a dickMay 13 11:47
mateybut im anti-authoritarian (after a fashion) and he seems pro-authoritarianMay 13 11:47
SomeH4x0rI did recently trigger some people when CP appeared, and the channel went mad, and my opinion was that censorship is not acceptable no matter what files are sentMay 13 11:47
SomeH4x0r(the links were sent by another users)May 13 11:47
SomeH4x0r*userMay 13 11:48
mateyI did recently trigger some people when CP appeared <- jesus christ im glad i avoid that channelMay 13 11:48
SomeH4x0rthey did set a ban and I didn't bother evading itMay 13 11:48
mateyi dont understand, if youre banned how are you there nowMay 13 11:48
SomeH4x0rthey did set a ban after I did talk that censorship is not okMay 13 11:49
mateysame questionMay 13 11:49
SomeH4x0riirc they didn't ban the user who sent the links, but it was probably a webchatMay 13 11:49
mateyhow are you there nowMay 13 11:50
SomeH4x0rit was on another network I did connect to recentlyMay 13 11:50
mateyoh okayMay 13 11:50
bnchsSomeH4x0r, CP bomb?May 13 11:52
SomeH4x0rwhat is it?May 13 11:52
bnchsi mean what happenedMay 13 11:52
bnchsdid someone send CP?May 13 11:52
SomeH4x0ryes, or at least someone else assumed it wasMay 13 11:52
bnchsawfulMay 13 11:53
SomeH4x0ran issue here is that if we can criminalize/immoralize some kinds of *files*, there is no reason why other kinds of files can't be criminalized/immoralized as well.May 13 11:54
SomeH4x0rso we either allow *everything*, or put up with filesharing being destroyed by governments agents infiltrating our communitiesMay 13 11:55
Skywavecommunities can have rules about what they want to do and what information they want to move around their areas. that is fine.May 13 11:57
mateythe devils in the detailsMay 13 11:58
mateyfor both sides of the argumentMay 13 11:58
SomeH4x0rnow I'm thinking of bringing this topic to other places to see how many communities are free speech-hostileMay 13 12:00
SomeH4x0rI assume discussing CP can't bring anyone to legal trouble?May 13 12:01
mateymaybe ask a lawyerMay 13 12:01
SomeH4x0ran issue here is that there are people from different jurisdictions, and there might be countries where it is illegalMay 13 12:02
mateyindeedMay 13 12:02
mateyright now in russia its illegal to criticise the governmentMay 13 12:02
mateyor at least you can go to jail for itMay 13 12:02
mateywhich sounds a lot like being illegalMay 13 12:03
mateybut if every rule is made up on the spot, youre not talking about legal or illegal, just trends May 13 12:03
mateybut in most places its legal to criticise russiaMay 13 12:05
SomeH4x0rI also do hate these SJW trends. They generally find some bad thing and start worldwide harassment campaigns. BLM, now Ukraine. Perhaps GamerGate in the past, but I perhaps wasn't around when it happened.May 13 12:07
SomeH4x0rI'm not sure if COVID-19 actions belong there. There was/is some harassment against those who disobey the measures.May 13 12:08
SomeH4x0rthere may or may not be lasting damage. There was from BLM. The stupid changes to names will persist.May 13 12:09
SomeH4x0re.g. master -> mainMay 13 12:09
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SomeH4x0r*BLM in the past, now UkraineMay 13 12:10
mateyeven the people who pushed master -> main still use the word master in various contextsMay 13 12:10
mateyits sheer hypocrisyMay 13 12:10
matey"i can tell you what to do but you can tell me shit"May 13 12:10
SomeH4x0ralso the mental health damage will last. I will now always know large amounts o people are stupid.May 13 12:14
SomeH4x0r*of peopleMay 13 12:14
mateyI will now always know large amounts o people are stupid. <- thats not a mental health issue. thats simply awareness.May 13 12:15
SomeH4x0r"awareness" is not always true, because there are controlled opposition projects as a trapMay 13 12:16
mateybut being aware of how things really are is not a mental health issueMay 13 12:16
mateyif anything, its one of the closest things we have to a definition of sanityMay 13 12:16
mateythough i dont think its entirely fair, as one can still have an active imagination and still be sane, i thinkMay 13 12:17
mateybut then you can have an active imagination and still be reasonably aware of how things actually areMay 13 12:17
SomeH4x0rlike Mozilla being about fake privacyMay 13 12:18
mateyindeedMay 13 12:18
mateymozilla is a fucking jokeMay 13 12:18
SomeH4x0rsomeone did mention here about EFF using its former reputation to do shit. It is the same for the others big privacy companies.May 13 12:19
mateyeff sucks tooMay 13 12:19
mateyorganisations sell outMay 13 12:19
mateywhen that happens, you have to decide whether to put your faith in people, or corrupt institutionsMay 13 12:20
mateypeople suck, but theyre not all badMay 13 12:20
mateyan institution is a toolMay 13 12:21
mateyits an amplifierMay 13 12:21
mateywhen it stops amplifying good and favours bullshit, its not useful anymoreMay 13 12:21
mateyi mean a hammer is a hammer whether you use it to hit nails or hit yourselfMay 13 12:21
mateybut if you have a hammer that always hits you and another that does what its supposed toMay 13 12:21
mateyid say put down the one that keeps hitting you (somehow) and use the other oneMay 13 12:22
mateywith institutions, people are remarkably slow to do this!May 13 12:22
mateythey just keep hitting themselves.May 13 12:22
activelowthis is how i'll do it: keep busybox vi (flawed unicode pre-init emergyncy shell), keep nvi (unicode handling ok, limited use while working as root), and vim for regular programmingMay 13 12:29
activelowif unicode didn't nuke elvis i probably would have used only thisMay 13 12:30
activelowand makes me wonder, because wikipedia mentions elvis remains the default vi editor there, how they coped with unicodeMay 13 12:31
activelowvim is very powerful, what annoys me currently is it's slow startup time (4seconds), probably due to plugins loadedMay 13 12:31
activelowso, i'll debug which plugin(s) it is causing headacheMay 13 12:32
activelowthe nano emacs clone is noteworthy too, it's binary size is 3x of mg (openbsd emacs clone), mg got no unicode eitherMay 13 12:33
activelownot sure what to think about emacs, the regular one, seems to be a typical GNU heavyweightMay 13 12:33
activelowvim seems the only editor i am willing to use, didn't learn emacs (except for the minimal basics with mg)May 13 12:38
activelowthe confusion and incompatibilities among vi clones is bad enough, didn't arrive at neovim, probably never willMay 13 12:39
activelowwith emacs on top, that's dozens of keystrokes to memorize, commands, options... got other things to doMay 13 12:40
activelowthe copy-buffer handling with dvtm+vim is practical, together with the concept of master and stacking areaMay 13 12:41
activelowi only noticed, when i increased the scrollback buffer of dvtm, this used alot of RAM quickly, because this is statically allocated per shell-windowMay 13 12:42
activelowanother one with vim, which made me consider it's removal... some plugins poisoned the register bufferMay 13 12:44
activelowand when pasting this could flood gibberish... which too could be dangerous ... i'll not use vim as root anymoreMay 13 12:45
activelownvi or mg must suffice as an editor for rootMay 13 12:45
activelownoted on todo, patch Vim to check for uid==0 _before_ it can load any plugin, and exit... instantlyMay 13 12:47
activelowi meant to say, minix used elvis as editor, not sure how they cope with unicode thenMay 13 12:48
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SomeH4x0r15:49 < Dave2> lol, techrights. Irrelevant and wrong when it was Boycott Novell, irrelevant and wrong now.May 13 13:50
SomeH4x0r15:55 < Dave2> Well, Boycott Novell was pretty stupid because Novell never actually did anything bad and it was a massive conspiracy theory. Thankfully techrights is pretty irrelevant so I don't get exposed to it too much, plus I blocked Schestowitz on Twitter because he was crapping up my searches. He was entirely wrong about the freenode situation, he acted like Trump with his constant assertions May 13 13:56
SomeH4x0rthat were entirely unfounded, he seems to be fine with slurs and/or hate May 13 13:56
SomeH4x0r15:55 < Dave2> speech from people who support him but happily mutes people who do not, he doesn't seem to understand that RMS is a fucking liability due to being a creepy fuck who needs to learn how to behave around other people so that they don't feel the need to buy plants for their offices to avoid being harassed by him, but mostly I'm thankful I don't have to pay any attention because, again, May 13 13:56
SomeH4x0rutterly irrelevantMay 13 13:56
SomeH4x0r15:57 < Dave2> tbh I'd almost go as far as to class him as being evil, his vocal presence is certainly a net negative on the worldMay 13 13:57
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SomeH4x0rmatey: ^ do you have anything for me to send back?May 13 13:59
SomeH4x0r15:59 < Dave2> He doesn't even have the benefit that Bryan Lunduke has where he at least is funny until you realise he's a fucking prick who picks fights for attention in a way that willfully misrepresents the truth and drives discourse in a shitty way to just make life worse for everyoneMay 13 14:00
techrights-news"While I've still been active with elpher development, my phlog has slipped off the radar a bit. And that's okay! Slow internet and all that." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-05-13-A-minute.txtMay 13 14:13
techrights-news"'Get plugged into education!' with Moodle will be the first project in a series of hackathons part of a joint initiative launched by The United Nations Office of Information and Communications Technology (OICT) and the Directorate-General for Informatics of European Commission (DG DIGIT)." https://blog.opensource.org/join-upcoming-hackathon-get-plugged-into-education-with-moodle/May 13 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.opensource.org | Join upcoming hackathon “Get plugged into education!” with MoodleMay 13 14:19
techrights-newsOr just disable the darn thing and trust yourself, neither your key nor Microsoft https://mivehind.net/2022/05/12/secureboot-signing-with-your-own-key/May 13 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mivehind.net | Secureboot Signing With Your Own KeyMay 13 14:20
techrights-newsI've begun skipping ANY howtos that q43 AWS-specific. AWS is proprietary software and vendor lock-in. No point arguing about this; I know that too well from my nighttime job. FUCK AWS.May 13 14:22
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: what is the source of that? I guess some IRC channelMay 13 14:24
schestowitz-TRdave is wrong on many levelsMay 13 14:24
schestowitz-TRdo you want me to respond?May 13 14:24
SomeH4x0rUplinkIRCMay 13 14:24
schestowitz-TRI will respondMay 13 14:24
SomeH4x0rirc.uplinkcorp.net/+6000 (/6667) #uplinkMay 13 14:24
schestowitz-TR[13:50] <SomeH4x0r> 15:49 < Dave2> lol, techrights. Irrelevant and wrong when it was Boycott Novell, irrelevant and wrong now.May 13 14:24
schestowitz-TRfunny thatMay 13 14:24
schestowitz-TRsome prominent developers attribute to demise of Novell to usMay 13 14:25
schestowitz-TRbecause we led a good campaign for yearsMay 13 14:25
SomeH4x0rthe channel is full of normies. I don't know about the regulars, but there are players coming all the time, from Windows+SteamMay 13 14:25
schestowitz-TR[13:56] <SomeH4x0r> 15:55 < Dave2> Well, Boycott Novell was pretty stupid because Novell never actually did anything bad and it was a massive conspiracy theory.May 13 14:25
schestowitz-TRit was a conspiracyMay 13 14:25
schestowitz-TRNovell conspired with MicrosoftMay 13 14:25
schestowitz-TRagainst Red Hat and everyone elseMay 13 14:25
schestowitz-TRand it failedMay 13 14:25
schestowitz-TRthey conspired using patentsMay 13 14:26
schestowitz-TRand people reactedMay 13 14:26
SomeH4x0ris there some logs link I can send?May 13 14:26
SomeH4x0rfor #techrightsMay 13 14:26
schestowitz-TRif he thinks a patent collusion and attack on copyleft, ODF etc. is "did anything bad" then tell him Microsoft is hiring.. oh, wait... it doesn't. it's firing its own workers, and it gets bailed out by Trump and Biden.May 13 14:26
schestowitz-TR>>>  plus I blocked Schestowitz on Twitter May 13 14:27
schestowitz-TRLOLMay 13 14:27
schestowitz-TRWhat sane person uses Twitter?May 13 14:27
schestowitz-TRI've not used it in years firsthandMay 13 14:27
schestowitz-TRand I quit even sending copies to it, before MusKSA bought the failing thingMay 13 14:27
schestowitz-TRwhich has been losing both money and usersMay 13 14:28
schestowitz-TRthey buy yesterdayyear's thingMay 13 14:28
schestowitz-TRtrying to redirect anger towards their political "enemies"May 13 14:28
schestowitz-TRand shore up their scamsMay 13 14:28
schestowitz-TR>> RMS is a fucking liability due to being a creepy fuckMay 13 14:28
schestowitz-TRwhat is "creepy fuck"May 13 14:29
schestowitz-TRbe specificMay 13 14:29
schestowitz-TRwriting an email ABOUT Esptein is not "creepy fuck"May 13 14:29
schestowitz-TREnabling epstein, like bill gates, makes one worse than ""creepy fuck""May 13 14:29
schestowitz-TRand a partner in crimeMay 13 14:29
schestowitz-TR>>  benefit that Bryan Lunduke May 13 14:30
schestowitz-TRwe are NO friends of Bryan Lunduke May 13 14:30
schestowitz-TRBryan Lunduke comes from MicrosoftMay 13 14:30
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/09/lunduke-concern-trolling-again/May 13 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bryan Lunduke is Still 100% Trolling With His Facts-Free Provocation ‘Masterpiece’ Called ‘Linux Sucks’ | TechrightsMay 13 14:30
schestowitzconnecting me to Lunduke and to TrumpMay 13 14:31
schestowitzBingoMay 13 14:31
schestowitztwo people I'm againstMay 13 14:31
schestowitz-TRschestowitz: yes, but it's the real time logMay 13 14:31
schestowitz-TRin gemini or http/sMay 13 14:31
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmiMay 13 14:31
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/ircMay 13 14:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-status.txtMay 13 14:32
schestowitzthey update every 5 mins, latest at bottomMay 13 14:32
SomeH4x0rand for how long do they stay?May 13 14:32
schestowitz-TRdepends on the linkMay 13 14:33
schestowitz-TRone resets every 48 hoursMay 13 14:33
schestowitz-TRthe last one, rsynced from roy@vonickMay 13 14:33
schestowitz-TRthe server side is tailed, maybe 2000 linesMay 13 14:33
schestowitz-TRthe gemini one is the same but processed for gemtext syntaxMay 13 14:34
techrights-newsKDE neon 20220512 is out https://neon.kde.org/ I uses that on my new laptop. Video: http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/state-of-the-art-plasma/May 13 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neonMay 13 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Plasma Desktop in Latest KDE Neon (State-of-the-Art Plasma) | TechrightsMay 13 14:35
bnchs"NSA ANT catalog | NIGHTSTAND: Portable system that wirelessly installs Microsoft Windows exploits from a distance of up to eight miles."May 13 14:37
bnchsLOL, this and they say "windows is secure!!"May 13 14:37
schestowitz-TRsays NSAMay 13 14:39
schestowitz-TRWindows is goodMay 13 14:39
schestowitz-TRfor US national securityMay 13 14:39
schestowitz-TRthey can remotely access the data of billions of people around the worldMay 13 14:39
bnchswindows is goodMay 13 14:39
schestowitz-TRlike egyptMay 13 14:39
schestowitz-TRwith its dick policeMay 13 14:39
bnchsso that they can install exploits up to 8 milesMay 13 14:39
schestowitz-TRchecking where citizens place their penisMay 13 14:40
bnchs"gay people detected in 8 miles"May 13 14:40
bnchs"gay detector"May 13 14:40
schestowitz-TRGaydar(R)May 13 14:41
schestowitz-TRIslam faces an existential crisisMay 13 14:41
schestowitz-TRguys put their thing in other guysMay 13 14:41
schestowitz-TRIslam implodesMay 13 14:41
bnchsi imagine the gaydar to be a metal detectorMay 13 14:42
bnchs*beep beep beep*May 13 14:42
schestowitz-TRthere are teleevenglaists in the USAMay 13 14:42
schestowitz-TRthey can 'cure' peopleMay 13 14:42
schestowitz-TRby 'subtle' tortureMay 13 14:42
schestowitz-TRtotally state-sanctionedMay 13 14:43
techrights-news20 Best Linux PDF Editors: Edit Pdf Files on Your Linux System • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164804May 13 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 20 Best Linux PDF Editors: Edit Pdf Files on Your Linux System | Tux MachinesMay 13 14:43
schestowitz-TRegypt has no agra crisisMay 13 14:43
bnchs"wtf you can't have sex with other people your gender, get beheaded!"May 13 14:43
schestowitz-TRopr water crisisMay 13 14:43
schestowitz-TRif they do, blame the gaysMay 13 14:43
bnchs"wtf you can't have sex without getting married, get beheaded!"May 13 14:43
bnchsthey imprison you for having sex without marriageMay 13 14:44
techrights-newsAlmaLinux 8.6 "Sky Tiger" Released, Added New Module Stream http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164781#comment-33649May 13 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Alternative AlmaLinux OS 8.6 Is Now Available for Download, Based on RHEL 8.6 | Tux MachinesMay 13 14:45
schestowitz-TRin egypt?May 13 14:45
schestowitz-TRmaybe in ksaMay 13 14:45
schestowitz-TRin indonesia it's public lashingMay 13 14:45
schestowitz-TRdue to ksa influence thereMay 13 14:45
schestowitz-TRbuying them mosques and stuffMay 13 14:45
schestowitz-TRthe wahabi stuffMay 13 14:45
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164805May 13 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 13 14:46
schestowitz-TRthe rich love using clergy to distract from the important issuesMay 13 14:47
schestowitz-TRthey keep on hating not the robbersMay 13 14:47
bnchsthey don't in egyptMay 13 14:47
schestowitz-TRbut the people who are subtly differentMay 13 14:47
schestowitz-TRlike christian indonesiansMay 13 14:47
schestowitz-TRwho are basically the sameMay 13 14:47
schestowitz-TRthey just pray to a different nameMay 13 14:47
schestowitz-TRin some case banning sex before marriage leads to rapeMay 13 14:48
schestowitz-TRlike literal rapeMay 13 14:48
schestowitz-TRsex-starved people do all sorts of crazy thingsMay 13 14:48
schestowitz-TRbecause the girls would not sleep with themMay 13 14:48
schestowitz-TRfear of the patents and stateMay 13 14:48
bnchsbut in morocco, iraq, and saudi arabia,May 13 14:48
bnchsthey ban sex before marriageMay 13 14:49
schestowitz-TRso all they can do is (sorry for language) "get off" or rape someoneMay 13 14:49
bnchsas illegal as homosexualityMay 13 14:49
schestowitz-TRso to have "real" sex you must be married to a woman or rape oneMay 13 14:49
schestowitz-TRthat's not good for womenMay 13 14:49
schestowitz-TRlike bans on some drugsMay 13 14:50
schestowitz-TRpeople just find them and do them illegallyMay 13 14:50
schestowitz-TRor make their ownMay 13 14:50
schestowitz-TRself-brewed can be toxicMay 13 14:50
schestowitz-TRif you don't know what you are doingMay 13 14:50
bnchsschestowitz-TR, marrakech wouldn't the captial of prostitutionMay 13 14:50
techrights-newsAlmaLinux 8.6 "Sky Tiger" Released, Added New Module Streams http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164781#comment-33649May 13 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Alternative AlmaLinux OS 8.6 Is Now Available for Download, Based on RHEL 8.6 | Tux MachinesMay 13 14:51
techrights-newsMulti-clown. We used to call that circus... or servers... or rack... or server farm, or HA (across DCs) https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatabackup/news/252518139/Zerto-95-update-adds-Linux-support-and-multi-cloud-storageMay 13 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtarget.com | Zerto 9.5 update adds Linux support and multi-cloud storageMay 13 14:52
bnchs"Much Loved is a 2015 French–Moroccan film about the prostitution scene in Marrakesh. The film tells about the lives of four prostitutes and shows their exploitation by pimps and the corruption of the police. "May 13 14:53
bnchswhat did they respond after this?May 13 14:53
techrights-news"You still use your server? NOT THE CLOWN???" = "You still make coffee??? NOT STARBUCKS???"May 13 14:53
bnchs"The film was banned in Morocco for its "contempt for moral values and the Moroccan woman". The leading actress, Loubna Abidar, received death threats and in November 2015, she was violently attacked in Casablanca and left the country for France soon after. Religious authorities condemned the film for portraying a negative image of Morocco, with its supporting of extramarital sex and sympathy for homosexuals."May 13 14:53
schestowitz-TRinsulting the king is insulting godMay 13 14:54
schestowitz-TRand the country is the kingMay 13 14:54
schestowitz-TRand the king is a full-time employee of $GODMay 13 14:54
bnchsthey have sympathy for.... HOMOSEXUALS????May 13 14:54
schestowitz-TRthe problem isn't prostitutesMay 13 14:54
schestowitz-TRor rings of pimpsMay 13 14:54
bnchstime to attack the actors in publicMay 13 14:54
schestowitz-TRthe problem is the firmMay 13 14:54
schestowitz-TR*film and its makersMay 13 14:55
bnchsyeahMay 13 14:55
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bnchsprostitution is a problem hereMay 13 14:56
schestowitz-TRthe kind who watches cabaret and guys with makeup in paris is afraid of gaysMay 13 14:56
schestowitz-TR*kingMay 13 14:56
schestowitz-TRbnchs: maybe they should permit girlfriendsMay 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRthen it's consensualMay 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRgirls not sleeping because "money" and "pimp said I'd get in trouble for refusing"May 13 14:57
bnchslol parents will disown you if they hear you have a girlfriendMay 13 14:57
goosestepping_https://i.ibb.co/5kGxG6q/lol.pngMay 13 14:57
goosestepping_lolMay 13 14:57
goosestepping_:-| !!!May 13 14:57
schestowitz-TR"try before you buy"May 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRbetter than parents forcing you to marry someoneMay 13 14:57
schestowitz-TRand you cannot turn it down or say nopMay 13 14:58
schestowitz-TR*nopeMay 13 14:58
schestowitz-TRmaybe the guy can say noMay 13 14:58
schestowitz-TRI doubt the girl canMay 13 14:58
bnchsthey do that for moneyMay 13 14:58
schestowitz-TRto keep is in the family/iesMay 13 14:58
schestowitz-TRbut it's a lame excuseMay 13 14:58
MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/please-refrain-from-barking.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/03/but-my-meowing-is-okay/ )May 13 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | But my meowing is okay?May 13 14:59
schestowitz-TRmatrimony without love is more likely to end in murder or acidMay 13 14:59
schestowitz-TRor unhealthy abuse, like beating up and mental tortureMay 13 14:59
schestowitz-TRMinceR: no DMX allowed thenMay 13 15:00
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=ThlhSnRk21EMay 13 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | DMX - Ruff Ryders' Anthem - InvidiousMay 13 15:00
bnchsschestowitz-TR, "without love" there's obviously never love at allMay 13 15:01
bnchsthe marriages end up being unstableMay 13 15:01
bnchsthey only married so that they can compare jobs with other wives' husbandsMay 13 15:01
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yz15NVfrXZIMay 13 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | DMX barking - InvidiousMay 13 15:01
schestowitz-TRhe died some years agoMay 13 15:02
schestowitz-TRvery messed up life overallMay 13 15:02
schestowitz-TRhis music is good for workoutsMay 13 15:03
schestowitz-TRbnchs: let the women work tooMay 13 15:03
schestowitz-TRnot just have kidsMay 13 15:03
schestowitz-TRand they they won't be a prisoner of the husband's salaryMay 13 15:04
psydruidhttps://www.globalresearch.ca/wef-agenda-behind-modi-farm-reform/5737472May 13 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.globalresearch.ca/wef-agenda-behind-modi-farm-reform/5737472 )May 13 15:04
schestowitz-TRI know women can work there tooMay 13 15:04
schestowitz-TRbut few tdoMay 13 15:04
schestowitz-TR*doMay 13 15:04
schestowitz-TRbill 'modi' gatesMay 13 15:04
schestowitz-TRthe epsteinite candiateMay 13 15:04
bnchsschestowitz-TR, they can workMay 13 15:04
bnchsthey're just.. lazyMay 13 15:04
schestowitz-TRmaybe it's not in the cultureMay 13 15:05
schestowitz-TRmany women here workMay 13 15:05
schestowitz-TRand can live independentlyMay 13 15:05
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schestowitz-TR[14:57] <schestowitz-TR> "try before you buy"May 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRto be clear, it's about personalityMay 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRnot sex May 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRit's good to try to see how you get alogn with a personMay 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRnot to let parents do guessingMay 13 15:08
techrights-newsUbuntu 22.10 Daily Build • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164806May 13 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 22.10 Daily Build | Tux MachinesMay 13 15:08
schestowitz-TRmost people don't marry their first partnerMay 13 15:09
schestowitz-TRand although break-up can hurtMay 13 15:09
schestowitz-TRbeing stuck with a person who was never suitable for you for 40-70 years can be painful for a lifetimeMay 13 15:09
techrights-newsAvailable Fedora 36 with GNOME 42 and Wayland for NVIDIA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33650May 13 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux MachinesMay 13 15:12
techrights-news"some people follow aspirational instagrams where it's like rich people with nice cars and expensive dinners / vacations. my aspirational lifestyle that i follow on instagram is like micro-celebrity artists and musicians that live in bushwick." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmiMay 13 15:14
techrights-news"I respect anyone who has a blog. Substack doesn’t count. I am of the archaic opinion that not everything on the internet has to or should be for money" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmiMay 13 15:14
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activelowdigging into vim plugins... regretting every minute i wasted with eclipse ideMay 13 15:23
activelowinstead should have invested time into vim... don't know yet, debugger integrationMay 13 15:24
techrights-news"Aside from the scripting refactor, the most exciting part of this as far as I'm concerned is the switch to an asynchronous IO model courtesy of libevent2! I've also updated the URI handling to use proper PCRE, which has cleaned-up that part of the code nicely." gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/43May 13 15:24
schestowitz-TRactivelow: eclipse is a pigMay 13 15:24
schestowitz-TRI used to use that for android developmentMay 13 15:24
schestowitz-TRbefore gulag made its ownMay 13 15:24
schestowitz-TRIDEs need to JUSTIFY their ftanessMay 13 15:24
schestowitz-TRthey might be OKMay 13 15:24
schestowitz-TRbut they have a burden of justifying their existenceMay 13 15:24
schestowitz-TRtext editor with syntax highlightingMay 13 15:25
schestowitz-TRadd compilerMay 13 15:25
schestowitz-TRadd debuggerMay 13 15:25
activelowthe debugger integration with eclipse was ok... until i realized with perl this was troublesomeMay 13 15:25
schestowitz-TRand then you already push itMay 13 15:25
schestowitz-TRbecause some people don't want the debuggerMay 13 15:25
schestowitz-TRand some wanr 4 terminal windows with compiler stuff in themMay 13 15:25
schestowitz-TRnot one IDE with panesMay 13 15:25
activelowmy opinion, vim for c-development with debugging etc. is a must have; eclipse is a nice to have at bestMay 13 15:25
schestowitz-TRI usually started with IDEsMay 13 15:26
schestowitz-TRand ended up moving to text editorsMay 13 15:26
schestowitz-TRnot the other way aroundMay 13 15:26
schestowitz-TRthe IDE is like assistive bucyclle wheelsMay 13 15:26
schestowitz-TRonce you can ride a bike they are just a nuisnaceMay 13 15:27
schestowitz-TRif you don't move, put the feet downMay 13 15:27
schestowitz-TRsame for skiingMay 13 15:27
activelowproblem with eclipse (and many others, such as matlab/octave, spyder ide), such tools screw thinkingMay 13 15:27
schestowitz-TRides are rigidMay 13 15:27
schestowitz-TRand as get more bloated culstimising them is harder beyond what the gui allowsMay 13 15:28
schestowitz-TRand if you want to develop over a networkMay 13 15:28
activelowthe brain becomes accustomed to it, adapts to it, until the headache becomes intolerable (which it was with eclipse)May 13 15:28
schestowitz-TRyou need a whole GUI sent over a networkMay 13 15:28
schestowitz-TRand cannot run in screen/tmuxMay 13 15:28
schestowitz-TRso you are confining yourselves to developing not on the target machine/sMay 13 15:28
schestowitz-TR1990s with slow internet maybe OKMay 13 15:29
schestowitz-TRbut now you can manage the file in a text editor over sshMay 13 15:29
schestowitz-TRand run the program on a remote and powerful machineMay 13 15:29
activelowmanager entire projectsMay 13 15:29
activelowbtw. vim integrates nicely with dvtmMay 13 15:29
schestowitz-TRandroid is worseMay 13 15:29
schestowitz-TRyou usually need to send the program over to a deviceMay 13 15:30
schestowitz-TRthe emulators are not goodMay 13 15:30
schestowitz-TRthey are not the real deviceMay 13 15:30
schestowitz-TRthe sending of programs across to target device is time wastedMay 13 15:30
schestowitz-TRimagine a raspberry puMay 13 15:31
schestowitz-TR*piMay 13 15:31
schestowitz-TRyou develop on your desktopMay 13 15:31
schestowitz-TRand then "send" the program to the piMay 13 15:31
schestowitz-TRinstead of just developing directly on the darn thingMay 13 15:31
techrights-newsSecurity updates for Friday [LWN] ⚓ https://lwn.net/Articles/895202/ ䷉ Source: LWN | Kernel | LinuxMay 13 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security updates for Friday [LWN.net]May 13 15:32
techrights-newsRichard Speed at El Reg helps Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux by shilling the utter unadulterated pile of garbage, WSL (spyware). URL omitted.May 13 15:33
techrights-newsUbuntu LoCo Council has lost control of its blog. Almost every day (yes, today also) it has spam submitted as articles, which are later removed. Says a lot about the state of Ubuntu "community" http://techrights.org/2022/05/05/ubuntu-loco-council-crack/May 13 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ubuntu LoCo Council Gone Loco or Just Cracked | TechrightsMay 13 15:34
techrights-newsUbuntu Core 22 Beta is now available https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-core-22-beta-is-now-available/28339May 13 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-discourse.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Core 22 Beta is now available - IoT - Ubuntu Community HubMay 13 15:35
techrights-newsUbuntu trying to be Fedora to appease ICBM? https://git.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/+git/snap-from-source/commit/?id=a4f41b5c065e14e954bc81d2d3e2b0c7fc26fc4d Don't be a slave of Big Blue, be practicalMay 13 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.launchpad.net | ~chromium-team/chromium-browser/+git/snap-from-source - [no description]May 13 15:36
MinceRtoo lateMay 13 15:37
schestowitz-TRfor ubuntu, yesMay 13 15:37
MinceRand for canonicalMay 13 15:37
schestowitz-TRwayland by default = playing with matchesMay 13 15:37
bnchsrichard stallman or richard speedMay 13 15:37
schestowitz-TRyou are far more likely to break things than solve any real problemMay 13 15:37
schestowitz-TRrichard SpeedMay 13 15:38
schestowitzhttps://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/wsl_ubuntu_preview/May 13 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Bleeding-edge Ubuntu on Windows Subsystem for Linux • The RegisterMay 13 15:38
schestowitzWindows= BLEEDING EDGE!!!May 13 15:38
schestowitzEDGE!!!!May 13 15:38
schestowitzGET EDGE!!!May 13 15:38
bnchsbleeding edgeMay 13 15:38
bnchsit's BLEEDINGMay 13 15:38
bnchsit's richard stallman because he stopsMay 13 15:39
bnchsrichard speed because he's on speedMay 13 15:39
techrights-news>Ubuntu 22.10 Daily Builds Available for Early Adopters http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164806#comment-33651May 13 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 22.10 Daily Build | Tux MachinesMay 13 15:40
schestowitz-TREDGE is bleedingMay 13 15:40
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/05/08/china-and-edge-of-change-gnu-linux-policies/May 13 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | On the Cusp of Widespread Adoption of GNU/Linux in More Countries | TechrightsMay 13 15:41
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/May 13 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, ‘Microsoft’ Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | TechrightsMay 13 15:41
schestowitz"Based on StatCounter, Microsoft’s Edge market share fell every month this year. Microsoft Edge’s share, all versions combined, from January to May: 4.12%, 4.06%, 4.05%, 4.05%, and 4.04%."May 13 15:41
schestowitzMSIE all over againMay 13 15:41
schestowitzbut this time a BILLION BUCKS wasted on marketingMay 13 15:41
schestowitzand shilling even in "Linux" sitesMay 13 15:41
schestowitzsites that harmed themselves by participatingMay 13 15:41
techrights-news"Looking at a distribution that is meant for gaming and is made by one the leaders in Linux Gaming industry... Glorious Eggroll. I personally think this distribution will be BETTER than Steam OS on release." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yVEivfbJi1gMay 13 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 🔴 Live - Nobara - Better than Steam OS? - InvidiousMay 13 15:44
techrights-newsSteam Hardware Survey for the Deck will change PC gaming FOREVER (plus more Steam Deck news) - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_k2oZPks6wM ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaMay 13 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Steam Hardware Survey for the Deck will change PC gaming FOREVER (plus more Steam Deck news) - InvidiousMay 13 15:44
SomeH4x0rI don't care how the gaming will be changed, I ignore newer gamesMay 13 15:45
techrights-news"Fedora 36 has been released and instead of looking at the flagship GNOME edition of Fedora, today I'm taking a first look at Fedora 36 i3 Spin." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZdbgDCwCs_wMay 13 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | A First Look At Fedora 36 i3 Spin (If I Get It Installed) - InvidiousMay 13 15:45
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: "newer" games = shit to sell more shitty GPUsMay 13 15:45
schestowitz-TRat a time when energy bills soarMay 13 15:45
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bnchsschestowitz-TR, here's this new gameMay 13 15:47
bnchspoorly optimizedMay 13 15:48
bnchsmicrotransactionsMay 13 15:48
bnchspay to do anything in the gameMay 13 15:48
bnchsany game company microsoft bought they fucking ruined itMay 13 15:49
bnchsminecraft -> paid "mod" marketplaceMay 13 15:49
schestowitz-TRwhy is minecraft even a thing, still?May 13 15:50
schestowitz-TR1) it was always uglyMay 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRreminded me of games I played in the early 90sMay 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRit's "lame"May 13 15:50
schestowitz-TR^(2)May 13 15:50
schestowitz-TR(3) I doubt it's profitable at allMay 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft gets bailed out by trump and bidenMay 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRthen buys companies (staff)May 13 15:51
bnchsit was literally just some indie game a swedish guy madeMay 13 15:51
bnchsas some opengl java crapMay 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRthen uses them (E.g. hololens) to justify more graft/bailoutMay 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRin hololes, Microsoft FIRED ALL THE STAFFMay 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRso why on Earth is Biden paying for?May 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRThis is crimeMay 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRthey should send them to NCMay 13 15:51
schestowitz-TRto the firing squadMay 13 15:52
bnchssimilar thing happened with minecraftMay 13 15:52
schestowitz-TR22,000 MILLION dollars stolenMay 13 15:52
schestowitz-TRto bail out CRIMINALSMay 13 15:52
bnchsnotch (the guy who made minecraft) said something badMay 13 15:52
MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDbzkJGu8aoMay 13 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=aDbzkJGu8aoMay 13 15:52
bnchshe was boycotted and shit, and apparently erased from any credits minecraft hadMay 13 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidio.xamh.de | Fluffy Chocolate Cake | Gabriel Iglesias - InvidiousMay 13 15:52
schestowitz-TRI spoke to a Microsoft employee about the hololens thingMay 13 15:53
schestowitz-TRmany were mortified by what Microsoft did to hololensMay 13 15:53
schestowitz-TRjust bought it and fired everyone!May 13 15:53
schestowitz-TRand the media clap clap clap(ed)May 13 15:53
schestowitz-TRand most of it pretends it's of some valueMay 13 15:54
schestowitz-TRmarketing gimmick for windowsMay 13 15:54
bnchs"He stopped working on Minecraft after a deal with Microsoft to sell Mojang for $2.5 billion"May 13 15:54
schestowitz-TRnow for stealing 20,000 x 1,000,000 dollars from US taxpayersMay 13 15:54
bnchsand afterwards, he was erased from the creditsMay 13 15:54
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft a criminal orgMay 13 15:54
schestowitz-TRit should be put on trialMay 13 15:54
schestowitz-TRand executedMay 13 15:54
schestowitz-TRthe company should be terminatedMay 13 15:54
schestowitz-TRlike ISISMay 13 15:54
bnchs"A March 2019 Minecraft update removed all mentions of Persson from the game's menu, though his name is still in the credits."May 13 15:55
bnchs"Persson was not invited to the game's tenth anniversary event later that year, with Microsoft saying that his views "do not reflect those of Microsoft or Mojang"."May 13 15:55
bnchsdon't care if you made minecraftMay 13 15:55
schestowitz-TRapropos ISIS, they too like to destroy historyMay 13 15:55
bnchsyou're not invitedMay 13 15:55
bnchsin fact you NEVER made minecraftMay 13 15:56
bnchsbitchMay 13 15:56
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schestowitz-TRbnchs: about PerssonMay 13 15:56
schestowitz-TRin a nutshell:May 13 15:56
schestowitz-TR"well, he's dead"May 13 15:56
bnchshe tweeted a ton of bullshitMay 13 15:57
bnchsbut that doesn't mean you get to erase him from minecraft's historyMay 13 15:57
techrights-newsxkcd: Crêpe ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2619 ䷉ Source: xkcdMay 13 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: CrêpeMay 13 15:57
schestowitz-TRbill gates does tweet a lot of shit :-)May 13 15:57
schestowitz-TRand gets invited to media he bribesMay 13 15:57
schestowitz-TRPBSMay 13 15:57
schestowitz-TRBillBCMay 13 15:57
schestowitz-TRbecause sex trafficking for sexual access to kids is OKMay 13 15:58
schestowitz-TR"bill pays us"May 13 15:58
schestowitz-TR"pinky promise"May 13 15:58
techrights-newsBillBC meddling for GAFAM abroad https://www.bbc.com/burmese/burma-61412051May 13 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ဖေ့ဘွတ်ခ်၊ တယ်လီဂရမ်နဲ့ အွန်လိုင်းပေါ်က ခြိမ်းခြောက်မှုများ - BBC News မြန်မာMay 13 15:59
techrights-newsDistribution Release: ALT Linux 10.0 https://www.basealt.ru/about/news/archive/view/novaja-versija-os-alt-rabochaja-stancija-k-10-svobodno-integriruetsja-v-ljubuju-it-infrastrukturu-i-usilivaet-ejo-zashchituMay 13 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.basealt.ru | Новая версия ОС «Альт Рабочая станция К» 10 свободно интегрируется в любую ИТ-инфраструктуру и усиливает её защиту | BaseALTMay 13 16:00
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: our friend from VievkowMay 13 16:00
schestowitz-TRhe came back to his "homeland"May 13 16:00
schestowitz-TRmother shipMay 13 16:00
schestowitz-TRto work on the distro of mothershipMay 13 16:00
bnchsschestowitz-TR, here's his quotesMay 13 16:01
bnchshttps://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Markus_PerssonMay 13 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikiquote.org | Markus Persson - WikiquoteMay 13 16:01
bnchs"Mansplaining is a sexist term designed to silence men via gender shaming. "May 13 16:01
techrights-newsA cyberattack took down one of Russia’s largest video platforms for days https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/rutube-down-russia-hack-attack-ukraine-rcna28299May 13 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | A cyberattack took down Russia's RuTube for three daysMay 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRI agree it is not a useful termMay 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRbut he plays with fireMay 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRby using "reversism"May 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRlike claiming blacks are racisatMay 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRor women discriminate against menMay 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRit's victim/perpetrator reversalMay 13 16:03
bnchs"It's ok to be white"May 13 16:03
schestowitz-TRhe SAID something insensitiveMay 13 16:03
bnchstbh i see nothing wrong with these quotesMay 13 16:03
schestowitz-TRwhereas Microsoft ACTIVELY ATTACKS womenMay 13 16:03
schestowitz-TR "It's ok to be white" is a loaded statementMay 13 16:04
schestowitz-TRit implies there is widespread belief whites are nastyMay 13 16:04
schestowitz-TRwhich is not trueMay 13 16:04
schestowitz-TRonly a small minority spouts out such rhetoric May 13 16:05
XRevan86schestowitz: Vievkow?May 13 16:06
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techrights-newsHe's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/May 13 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Elon Musk puts Twitter deal on hold over bot count • The RegisterMay 13 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | TechrightsMay 13 16:06
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: typoMay 13 16:06
schestowitz-TRbut can be Vlak-Kyiv-MoscowMay 13 16:07
schestowitz-TR*VladMay 13 16:07
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psydruidthe Vietcong are going to MoscowMay 13 16:09
techrights-newsKDE Connect Brings iPhone Connectivity to Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164660#comment-33653May 13 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Connect Arrives on iPhone and iPad For Linux Fans | Tux MachinesMay 13 16:10
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schestowitz<GORILLA warfare [sic]May 13 16:12
schestowitzvlad: bring out the nukesMay 13 16:12
schestowitznuke them in our streetsMay 13 16:12
schestowitzMinceR grabs popcorn, watches the bill in the porcelain shopMay 13 16:13
schestowitzmoscow in glassMay 13 16:13
schestowitz*bullMay 13 16:13
MinceRhttps://knowyourmeme.com/memes/navy-seal-copypastaMay 13 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowyourmeme.com | Navy Seal Copypasta | Know Your MemeMay 13 16:13
schestowitzVlad renamed Red Army "Sanders"May 13 16:14
schestowitzfor turning it into glassMay 13 16:14
techrights-newsVideos: Fedora 36, Steam Hardware Survey, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164807May 13 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Fedora 36, Steam Hardware Survey, and More | Tux MachinesMay 13 16:15
MinceRdoes it have a Colonel Sanders too?May 13 16:15
schestowitzVlad Joinery: world leader in GLASSMay 13 16:16
schestowitzMinceR: no, he diedMay 13 16:16
schestowitzbut they keep a glass monument of himMay 13 16:16
MinceR"Right now, I'd say that Russia is easily the second most powerful army in Ukraine."May 13 16:17
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=teSXcJlpMl8May 13 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ukraine is weak - InvidiousMay 13 16:17
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=VyNWVdExM24May 13 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Seinfeld - Risk - InvidiousMay 13 16:17
techrights-newsProducts getting WORSE over time https://www.maketecheasier.com/say-goodbye-ipod-pixel-headphone-jack/May 13 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Say Goodbye to Both the iPod and Pixel Headphone Jack - Make Tech EasierMay 13 16:21
techrights-newsWireless is a trap | benkuhn.net //www.benkuhn.net/wireless/May 13 16:23
*MinceR sighs, plugs a usb ethernet dongle into his phone, and an ethernet cable into thatMay 13 16:26
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techrights-newsAutomatically make masking tape labels with this Arduino-powered machine https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/12/automatically-make-masking-tape-labels-with-this-arduino-powered-machine/May 13 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Automatically make masking tape labels with this Arduino-powered machine | Arduino BlogMay 13 16:27
bnchsschestowitz, Notch (Persson) actually supports piracyMay 13 16:32
techrights-newsThousands call on U.S. FTC to make privacy and civil rights rule on data protection - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/ftc-privacy-civil-rights-rule/ ䷉ Source: accessnowMay 13 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Thousands call on U.S. FTC to make privacy and civil rights rule on data protection - Access NowMay 13 16:33
techrights-newsThe EU AI Act: How to (truly) protect people on the move - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/eu-ai-act-migration/ ䷉ Source: accessnowMay 13 16:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | The EU AI Act: How to (truly) protect people on the move - Access NowMay 13 16:33
bnchshe hates DRMMay 13 16:35
bnchsand that's probably why he was bad to microsoft aswellMay 13 16:35
techrights-newsThis is how new Indian privacy law will have 'negative impact on people's privacy' | TechRadar ⚓ https://www.techradar.com/features/this-is-how-new-indian-privacy-law-will-have-negative-impact-on-peoples-privacy ䷉ Source: techradarMay 13 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is how new Indian privacy law will have 'negative impact on people's privacy' | TechRadarMay 13 16:36
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164808May 13 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 13 16:38
SomeH4x0rhow good this place is for free speech? Are people banned for saying "bad" opinions? I know there used to be three bans set, though at least one of them was a spambotMay 13 16:38
techrights-news"This updated advisory is a follow-up to the advisory update titled ICSA-22-041-02 Siemens SIMATIC WinCC and PCS (Update A) that was published April 14, 2022, to the ICS webpage on cisa.gov/ics." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-041-02May 13 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Siemens SIMATIC WinCC and PCS (Update B) | CISAMay 13 16:42
techrights-news"An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/12/adobe-releases-security-updates-multiple-productsMay 13 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Adobe Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISAMay 13 16:44
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XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/13/latvian-legislators-vote-in-favour-of-demolishing-soviet-monument-in-riga-news "Latvian legislators vote in favour of demolishing Soviet monument in Riga"May 13 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаMay 13 16:54
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▅▇▅▅▄▅▅▆▃▂▃▁▁▆▄▄█▃▄▃▅▆▅▄▅▅▅▆▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.33 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂█▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 12.70▕ swarm size (avg): 479.58  ⟲May 13 16:59
activelowweird, it is the c-support plugin for vim which slowed down startup time from 1s to 5sMay 13 17:13
*icu (~33c3674a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrightsMay 13 17:17
icudestroing "monuments2 seems to be trendingMay 13 17:20
XRevan86All around, yes.May 13 17:21
XRevan86Russia is destroying monuments in Ukraine.May 13 17:21
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18110460May 13 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/jnsaczh127w11.jpg created on 2018-11-04 19:51:06.644855May 13 17:22
icuslaversMay 13 17:22
MinceRwell, it's not surprising that terrorists would go full ISISMay 13 17:22
icudictatorsMay 13 17:22
icui 1st i remeber was saddam statueMay 13 17:22
icuwell before was the nazi eagle and suasticaMay 13 17:23
icuMinceR just as long has they dont destroy cat statuesMay 13 17:24
icutaliban also seem to like itMay 13 17:25
MinceRthere are cat statues in ukraine?May 13 17:26
icuwell who doesn't like a good firework display?May 13 17:26
icuyou off all people dont know?May 13 17:28
icuhttps://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/2d7cd7c2-7f86-4d51-9b89-462ddaa6a9a4_1.cea09fdd7c47e372113f0e23cd72baff.jpegMay 13 17:29
MinceRnot what comes to mind when i think of "statue" :>May 13 17:30
icuMinceR are you on rehab?May 13 17:37
MinceRnoMay 13 17:38
icui mean the cat addiction...May 13 17:38
icuthink of your familyMay 13 17:39
MinceRlook who's talkingMay 13 17:40
MinceRyou can't even live without oxygenMay 13 17:40
MinceRa few minutes without it, and you're deadMay 13 17:40
bnchscats are cute :3May 13 17:41
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icugladly the world is already working on it https://www.oxygenlevels.org/May 13 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oxygenlevels.org | Historical Global Atmospheric Oxygen Levels Graph & WidgetMay 13 17:42
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icusoon i will have no adiction to 02May 13 17:42
icujust wait till the oceans go acidicMay 13 17:44
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icuthat will kill my addiction 4 sureMay 13 17:44
MinceR:>May 13 17:47
bnchsMinceR, do you live without oxygen?May 13 17:48
MinceRnoMay 13 17:49
icudeath kill all additionsMay 13 17:49
icudont tell you are addicted to live?May 13 17:50
SomeH4x0rSkywave: ^ ping perhapsMay 13 17:51
bnchsyou are addicted to IRCMay 13 17:51
icuand mincer is my dealerMay 13 17:51
SomeH4x0rSkywave wants posthumanismMay 13 17:51
SomeH4x0rreplace humans with botsMay 13 17:51
icuhumans are obsoleteMay 13 17:52
bnchsicu, your momma said you were obsoleteMay 13 17:53
bnchsbut unfortunately her request wasn't acceptedMay 13 17:53
icuyour mother was but yet here you areMay 13 17:54
bnchsi guessMay 13 17:54
icuits a miricalMay 13 17:54
SomeH4x0rchildhood is slaveryMay 13 17:54
icupraise goodMay 13 17:54
icufuck you all idiotsMay 13 17:54
bnchsscrew you guiseMay 13 17:55
bnchsi'm going hewm!!!!!May 13 17:55
icufucking peeping tomsMay 13 17:55
SomeH4x0rthere are other IRC networks to take a look onMay 13 17:55
icuhow do you live with your self creepsMay 13 17:55
icuyes go thereMay 13 17:56
icuand pissoffMay 13 17:56
SomeH4x0rI'm connected to a fewMay 13 17:56
SomeH4x0rand I'm also on XMPPMay 13 17:56
icuthe king of pimpsMay 13 17:56
icuor is it peepsMay 13 17:57
icunothing like leaching people chats right?May 13 17:58
SomeH4x0ridkMay 13 17:59
icuyou dont?May 13 17:59
icuoff all people?May 13 17:59
SomeH4x0rdon't what?May 13 18:00
icuim doing the questioningMay 13 18:01
bnchsicu, your mom went into the ICU, after you were born in the C sectionMay 13 18:02
icuif you say so err foktorMay 13 18:02
bnchs*sigh* i'm sorryMay 13 18:02
bnchsjust wanted to vent a bitMay 13 18:03
icuyou mean fart?May 13 18:03
bnchsnoMay 13 18:03
bnchsvent my feelingsMay 13 18:03
icufeelings? i think you got it backwardsMay 13 18:04
bnchsit doesn't matterMay 13 18:05
icuif you hammer something long enough it will become a nailMay 13 18:08
activelowfound it... it was rxvt which altered /dev/ttyX permission of any node it acquired...May 13 18:10
activelowand this is a weird linux default too -> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 0 May 13 17:03 /dev/ttyMay 13 18:10
activelowthere is many daemons running with distinct user accounts, which do _not_ require any tty at all, nonethless in case of any flaw elsewhere an exploit could acquire a tty due to thisMay 13 18:11
activelowbaphometos will do it differently: bsd pty, and mode 660 on /dev/tty owned by group tty... only users in group tty are permitted to access itMay 13 18:11
activelowthis requires administrative care, noone on the system leaves dangling tty nodes it acquired chmod to 666 as rxvt doesMay 13 18:12
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/251246May 13 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Media reports: Fire bottles thrown at a military enlistment office in Omsk at nightMay 13 18:12
activelowdropbear ssh to alters tty permissions... which i don't know why what this would be required forMay 13 18:12
icu"Fire bottles"?May 13 18:14
XRevan86icu: Molotov'sMay 13 18:14
activelowlocal root exploits remain dangerous nonetheless, yet if a remote-exploit could hijack any process without tty-group permission set, then there isn't any terminal for themMay 13 18:14
icudid a 5yo write this ?May 13 18:14
XRevan86icu: Don't pick on the translator.May 13 18:15
bnchsfire bottles lolMay 13 18:15
bnchsbottles containing fireMay 13 18:15
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_cocktail#Other_names eh, it is mentionedMay 13 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Molotov cocktail - WikipediaMay 13 18:22
mateyperm-36 was also called molotov i thinkMay 13 18:22
activelowand vim c-support plugin require 5seconds to load together with vim... can't imagine noone else had noticedMay 13 18:37
activelowwhich was extremely annoying for years, because working on command line requires spwaning a vim process oftenMay 13 18:38
activelowotherwise i equipped vim with 70 plugins here which barely affects process launch time, remains below 1s; with c-support it jumps to 5sMay 13 18:39
activelowi mean, vim is intended as a widely available editor on almost all systems available, including hardware which is alot slowerMay 13 18:41
activelowshould a vim user wait 1minute then to launch vim with a tiny embedded system?May 13 18:41
activelowtoo it is noteworthy nvi was wiped from the gentoo tree? why? it doesn't break with unicode (in comparison to the busybox-vi and elvis i tested), it is small and fast and sufficient for what one typically does with viMay 13 18:43
activelowgentoo dropped official support for *bsd kernels... another one. there isn't any alternative to linux kernel anymore within gentoo realm.May 13 18:45
activelowinstead they'excited, linux can be compiled with mapple llvm/clang now (not tinycc i might add)May 13 18:45
activelowvery strange decisions, very strange priorities, for what "free software" was supposed to be... May 13 18:45
activelowyet, once they'll loose the target audience, which is hackers, good luck thenMay 13 18:46
activelowcapable staff isn't recruited first and foremost in big corporations, many started in their garageMay 13 18:47
techrights-newsGCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164809May 13 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesMay 13 18:47
activelow^ current baphometos compiler is gcc-4.7May 13 18:47
techrights-newsToolforge GridEngine Debian 10 Buster migration • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164810May 13 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Toolforge GridEngine Debian 10 Buster migration | Tux MachinesMay 13 18:47
techrights-newsImproving Calc support for 16384 columns • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164811May 13 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Calc support for 16384 columns | Tux MachinesMay 13 18:47
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164812May 13 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 18:48
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techrights-newsIrving Wladawsky-Berger: How Can You Trust the Predictions of a Large Machine Learning Model? ⚓ https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/05/how-can-you-trust-machine-learning.html ䷉ Source: irvingwbMay 13 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: How Can You Trust the Predictions of a Large Machine Learning Model?May 13 19:01
XRevan86https://yewtu.be/O4YxxWStxsc <https://youtu.be/O4YxxWStxsc> Pretty.May 13 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Арестовали любимую яхту Путина - InvidiousMay 13 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=O4YxxWStxscMay 13 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> y.com.sb | Арестовали любимую яхту Путина - InvidiousMay 13 19:05
XRevan86"Putin's favourite yacht got arrested"May 13 19:05
techrights-newsFirefox hits the big 100: Why you should use this open-source browser now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164392#comment-33654May 13 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 100 Is Now Available for Download, Enables GTK Overlay Scrollbars on Linux | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:06
techrights-newsMaintaina Horde: Tumbleweed and PHP 8.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164809#comment-33655May 13 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:08
techrights-newsOfficial SUSE blog: "504 Gateway Time-out"May 13 19:09
techrights-newsLeft out the part about attacking FSF for self-promotional purposes https://sfconservancy.org/news/2022/may/12/introduction/May 13 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | New Software Freedom Conservancy Introduction Video - Software Freedom ConservancyMay 13 19:11
techrights-newsSteadily GNU/Linux will dominate more and more sector https://gamerant.com/steam-deck-influence-increase-linux-gaming/May 13 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gamerant.com | Stats Suggest the Steam Deck May Have Influenced an Increase in Linux GamingMay 13 19:11
techrights-newsGraphics Hacking by Rosenzweig and Kristóf • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164813May 13 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics Hacking by Rosenzweig and Kristóf | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:19
techrights-newsContainers Software on GNU/Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164814May 13 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers Software on GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:21
matey< Dave2> lol, techrights. Irrelevant and wrong when it was Boycott Novell, irrelevant and wrong now. <- at its best when it was boycott novellMay 13 19:21
mateyschestowitz-TR  │ some prominent developers attribute to demise of Novell to us <- scapegoatingMay 13 19:22
mateythats sheer pride on their partMay 13 19:22
mateythey did it to themselvesMay 13 19:22
mateyrather blame someone elseMay 13 19:22
mateyBoycott Novell was pretty stupid because Novell never actually did anything bad <- thats... its amazing that a boob learned how to type all on its ownMay 13 19:23
matey Novell never actually did anything bad <- the crackpipe is strong with this oneMay 13 19:23
mateyschestowitz-TR  │ Novell conspired with Microsoft  schestowitz-TR  │ against Red Hat and everyone else <- yesMay 13 19:24
mateyschestowitz-TR  │ and it failed <- sort ofMay 13 19:24
mateysome of the worst shit you see today, the worst destruction of gnu/linux/fsf, came out from the already-dead-and-gone novellMay 13 19:25
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mateythe curse lives on, and ever since the name change techrights has thrown softballs at itMay 13 19:25
mateyi really think its just a coincidence. its not the name that campaigned against monoMay 13 19:25
mateywhat is the progeny of systemd, where did they come from? what destroyed debian?May 13 19:26
mateythe linux foundation, its corruptionMay 13 19:26
mateymicrosoft a leading factor-- but just as the usa traipses around the earth to prop up a corporate empireMay 13 19:26
mateywhile various countries (who tagged along for the ride, the profits, the carnage and exploitation) i meanMay 13 19:27
mateyyou can say microsoft is the worst if it (most likely) is, but lets not let the other bastards off the hookMay 13 19:27
mateyits a known-- a given-- that microsoft uses proxies for its dirty workMay 13 19:28
mateyreported hereMay 13 19:28
mateyand yetMay 13 19:28
mateyfoolishly, those proxies get a fairer shake than they deserveMay 13 19:28
mateywithout the proxies, microsoft would be dead and goneMay 13 19:28
mateyso if we go easy on the proxies, we only help microsoftMay 13 19:28
mateyand yeah, the proxies get softballs. its a bit shitMay 13 19:29
mateystick a fork in microsoft with one hand, give a leg up on the other handMay 13 19:29
mateybas strategyMay 13 19:29
mateybadMay 13 19:29
mateybas works tooMay 13 19:29
mateybas, basMay 13 19:29
mateyeither way, dave is an idiot. he thinks novell was cleanMay 13 19:30
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mateybaseless claimMay 13 19:30
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mateyabsolute nutterMay 13 19:30
mateyschestowitz-TR  │ >> RMS is a fucking liability due to being a creepy fuckMay 13 19:31
mateyschestowitz-TR  │ what is "creepy fuck"May 13 19:31
mateyi can answer that oneMay 13 19:31
mateya creepy fuck is anyone someone finds unattractiveMay 13 19:31
mateyi mean there are things one can DO that are creepyMay 13 19:31
mateybut the way the word actually gets used, its mostly to lump in people who are PRESUMED to be unattractive with those who do bad thingsMay 13 19:32
mateyits really not unlike the way people reacted to blacks during jim crowMay 13 19:32
mateyi mean youre walking in broad daylight, on a busy streetMay 13 19:32
mateyand you "social distance" any time you see a black personMay 13 19:33
mateybecause what if... what if... theyre one of the BAD ONESMay 13 19:33
mateya lot of people react to men this way nowMay 13 19:33
psydruidoriginal nuttahMay 13 19:34
techrights-newsNetworkManager 1.38 is out. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/tags/1.38.0May 13 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | 1.38.0 · Tags · NetworkManager / NetworkManager · GitLabMay 13 19:34
psydruidis that dave plummer in disguise?May 13 19:34
mateyso many people have said "all men are rapists" that i cant find the person to attribute it toMay 13 19:36
mateytoo many candidates.May 13 19:36
mateyfrom this we can figure out what a "creepy man" is. May 13 19:37
mateyits a man, any man.May 13 19:37
mateymen are creepy.May 13 19:37
mateyand unattractive. and smelly. (the last one is true, but some people actually love the smell, which is actually the point of it)May 13 19:37
mateyWITHIN REASON of course. if you dont wash that (attractive) smell off, it does become rancid and... ew.May 13 19:38
mateywomen steal mens shirts for a reason.May 13 19:38
mateyits not a fashion statement, its a trophy.May 13 19:38
mateytheres nothing wrong with thisMay 13 19:39
mateyanyway, these people ban hate speech, but they really dontMay 13 19:39
mateyits not hate speech when its directed at whatever group is targeted for reeducationMay 13 19:40
mateyits not hate speech when its at "cis white men"May 13 19:40
mateyor so they sayMay 13 19:40
mateyso thats what "creepy fuck" meansMay 13 19:40
mateyit means that like when jews were dehumanised so they could be exterminated more easilyMay 13 19:40
techrights-newsRaspberry Pi Reptile Cam Monitors Lizards for Optimal Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164815May 13 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Reptile Cam Monitors Lizards for Optimal Support | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:40
mateymen are subhuman disgusting animals.May 13 19:41
mateyand this is why some feminists (again, my best friend is a feminist) get compared to nazisMay 13 19:41
mateybecause the rhetoric is (in every single way) identical.May 13 19:41
mateydehumanisation, calls for sterilisation (literally) and calls for exterminationMay 13 19:41
mateyif you trip over the wrong meme, its a dog whistleMay 13 19:42
mateyif you dog whistle all day about eradicating men wholesale, NOT a dog whistleMay 13 19:42
mateyleft opportunists are always hypocrites of the highest orderMay 13 19:42
bnchsi'm a man :(May 13 19:42
mateyyoure a creepy duck! ()o<May 13 19:43
mateythe good news is that the longer this shit goes onMay 13 19:43
mateyfar from bringing on the rabid feminist apocalypse (which the alt-right hopes for and the mainstream right honestly fears)May 13 19:43
mateypeople just get bored with it, realise its actually pretty fringe, and move onMay 13 19:44
SomeH4x0rI'm sometimes thinking about becoming transgender for political benefitsMay 13 19:44
mateyof course the media rides the wave and exploits it, like the do with everythingMay 13 19:44
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matey<SomeH4x0r> I'm sometimes thinking about becoming transgender for political benefits <- thats a really dumb idea on a bunch of levelsMay 13 19:44
mateybut most of all-- i mean, from a purely opportunist argument that isMay 13 19:44
mateyits a terrible idea because the motivation / advantage in doing so already dwindles and will continue to do soMay 13 19:45
mateyso you missed the boatMay 13 19:45
mateyand i dont think many people did thatMay 13 19:45
mateylike a small percentage of a tiny percentage, ofMay 13 19:45
mateymaybe as many people as you can count on two handsMay 13 19:45
mateyi think most trans opportunists were probably leaning trans alreadyMay 13 19:46
mateyand maybe they got a little push from thinking it would buy them something politicallyMay 13 19:46
techrights-newsMarcus Lundblad: GNOME Maps Spring Cleaning http://ml4711.blogspot.com/2022/05/maps-spring-cleaning.htmlMay 13 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ml4711.blogspot.com | My geek stuff blog: Maps Spring CleaningMay 13 19:46
mateymaybe im underestimating the actual count, but i think the principle holds.May 13 19:46
mateyin other words, in practice its mootMay 13 19:46
XRevan86SomeH4x0r: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/108184953377882814 https://vulpine.club/@violet/108184970225368175May 13 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.treehouse.systems | Ariadne Conill: "love to be literally followed by and then nearly …" - Treehouse MastodonMay 13 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vulpine.club | Violet :contains_thc:: "transphobia, violence" - The Vulpine ClubMay 13 19:46
XRevan86SomeH4x0r: Benefits such as this?May 13 19:47
mateybut either way, more moot than beforeMay 13 19:47
Ariadneya super beneficialMay 13 19:47
XRevan86https://nitter.net/ChrisDYork/status/1524821976325431299 I keep hearing about Noam Chomsky embarrassing himself.May 13 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Chris York (@ChrisDYork): "Noam Chomsky claims Ukrainians aren’t actually demanding heavy weapons, that’s just western propaganda. Owen Jones just nods along. Suspect 44 million Ukrainians might have something to say about it." | nitterMay 13 19:47
mateyXRevan86 whats the dumbest thing hes ever said? (inconclusively, unscientifically, off the top of your head, with any bias assumed and whatever)May 13 19:48
XRevan86Of course when I hear statements from people around Zelensky like Podolyak, Arestovich, et al., they all say: heavy weaponry, much need.May 13 19:48
XRevan86matey: I can't say because I'm not following him.May 13 19:49
techrights-newsAnnual Report: TDF’s (The Document Foundation) infrastructure in 2021 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164816May 13 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Annual Report: TDF’s (The Document Foundation) infrastructure in 2021 | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:49
icuukarania should use its nukesMay 13 19:49
SomeH4x0rare there any?May 13 19:49
Ariadnethey got rid of themMay 13 19:49
AriadnewhoopsieMay 13 19:50
XRevan86The alleged nukes? :)May 13 19:50
icubetter bang for poundMay 13 19:50
XRevan86they should strap them onto the biolab animals and deployMay 13 19:50
XRevan86Russia is trying the biolab thing again, yea.May 13 19:51
techrights-newsSam Thursfield: Trying out systemd’s Portable Services • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164817May 13 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sam Thursfield: Trying out systemd’s Portable Services | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:51
icuterget the kremlinMay 13 19:51
XRevan86Ties them to Biden, Obama, Soros, et al.May 13 19:51
Ariadneanyway, FSF finds itself trapped in a difficult circumstanceMay 13 19:51
mateythe fake /me though the only thing the biolabs were for was making the tap water that turns everyone into a gay frogMay 13 19:51
mateynot enough backspace thereMay 13 19:52
matey/me thought  the only thing the biolabs were for was making the tap water that turns everyone into a gay frogMay 13 19:52
AriadneRMS is, well, RMS.  he is very intelligent, strong vision, is dedicated to itMay 13 19:52
mateyFSF finds itself trapped in a difficult circumstance <- you mean a death spiralMay 13 19:52
Ariadnebut RMS also eats his own toejam in publicMay 13 19:53
mateyaww fuck thatMay 13 19:53
Ariadnewhich is what people mean by "creepy fuck"May 13 19:53
mateyi used to know a model who pulled out her own hairMay 13 19:53
mateynice personMay 13 19:53
mateysame compulsionMay 13 19:53
Ariadnehe is nice enoughMay 13 19:53
mateyvery co-morbid with ocd and May 13 19:53
mateybut shes a woman so it doesnt make her a creepy fuckMay 13 19:54
Ariadnehe is also not the person i would have fronting a movementMay 13 19:54
mateyocd and autismMay 13 19:54
matey/me points out that silence of the lambs decided to paint a guy who wanted to become a woman as a serial killing creepy fuckMay 13 19:54
mateyyou can make anyone into a creepy fuck if you want toMay 13 19:54
icufronting a movement should be black and a womenMay 13 19:54
mateyi love eddie izzard, he covers thisMay 13 19:55
matey"yeah, WEIRDO travestites"May 13 19:55
matey"executive transvestite..."May 13 19:55
matey"weirdo transvesties"May 13 19:55
icueddie izzard from the lizard people?May 13 19:55
mateyizzard (i dont know his preferred pronoun, i think hes still ok with he) has xcome out as transMay 13 19:55
mateyno, hes one of my favourite comedians of all timeMay 13 19:55
mateyanyway, the person running this channel can be a complete fucking hypocrite and rewrite history all she wantsMay 13 19:56
mateyim not listening to the corporate-shill bullshitMay 13 19:56
icuso its a stage nameMay 13 19:56
mateycomplete hypocrite.May 13 19:56
mateyfuck that, youre backstabber and a liar.May 13 19:56
mateya May 13 19:56
mateyi thought youd learned your lessoonMay 13 19:57
mateyappaarently youre spinelessMay 13 19:57
mateyhypocrite. sellout.May 13 19:57
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techrights-newsGNOME Project Strategy in 2022 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164642#comment-33656May 13 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robert McQueen (GNOME Foundation): Evolving a strategy for 2022 and beyond | Tux MachinesMay 13 19:58
icupeople chating from mobiles....May 13 19:58
icui bet hes using goggle assistMay 13 19:58
XRevan86Ouch.May 13 19:59
bnchsas if google assist even supports background connectionsMay 13 19:59
XRevan86https://nitter.net/ggreenwald/status/1520751923355398144 May 1stMay 13 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald): "Noam Chomsky, in an interview this week, says "fortunately" there is "one Western statesman of stature" who is pushing for a diplomatic solution to the war in Ukraine rather than looking for ways to fuel and prolong it. "His name is Donald J. Trump," Chomsky says. WATCH:" | nitterMay 13 19:59
icuhes just copy pasting from twitterMay 13 20:00
bnchsidk what happenedMay 13 20:00
XRevan86icu: I do?May 13 20:00
XRevan86TechrightsBot-tr does? Who?May 13 20:01
XRevan86Anyway, I can't tell which statement is worse, but these are strong signs Noam Chomsky doesn't understand this war even in the slightest and has terrible sources.May 13 20:01
icuim not bnchs no matter what he told youMay 13 20:01
bnchswhatMay 13 20:02
bnchswhat the fuck is happeningMay 13 20:02
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icuTrump is going to end the war by decreeMay 13 20:04
icuhe just has to flash his beautiful signature and everyone will stop the was and start groping each othersMay 13 20:05
MinceRlolMay 13 20:07
XRevan86icu: He will kiss Putin, and he will turn into a beautiful prince(ss).May 13 20:07
MinceRthey'll both turn into beautiful princessesMay 13 20:07
XRevan86And everyone will live happily ever after.May 13 20:07
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techrights-newsChatty is an open-source Twitch Chat Client • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164818May 13 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chatty is an open-source Twitch Chat Client | Tux MachinesMay 13 20:31
schestowitz-TR[20:01] <XRevan86> TechrightsBot-tr does? Who?May 13 20:33
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: you talk to the bot? ;-)May 13 20:34
schestowitz-TR[20:07] <MinceR> they'll both turn into beautiful princessesMay 13 20:34
schestowitz-TRthe endMay 13 20:34
techrights-newsFrom today on the Daily Links in Techrights will have a much better TOC at the top, it's generated algorithmically now. Same format as 14 years ago, but now with rich TOC.May 13 20:36
techrights-newsAn odd version or vision of security https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-open-source-software-003000127.html e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/May 13 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | The Linux Foundation and Open Source Software Security Foundation (OpenSSF) Gather Industry and Government Leaders for Open Source Software Security Summit IIMay 13 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like It’s About Back Doors — Not Real Security — Inside the Linux Foundation | TechrightsMay 13 20:37
techrights-newsAllwinner T507 industrial processor powers automotive single board computer and module https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/13/allwinner-t507-industrial-processor-powers-automotive-single-board-computer-and-module/May 13 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Allwinner T507 industrial processor powers automotive single board computer and module - CNX SoftwareMay 13 20:39
techrights-news"comes pre-loaded with Windows 11 Pro" so WHY cover this CNX??? https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/12/beelink-mini-s-is-cheaper-version-of-beelink-u59-jasper-lake-mini-pc/May 13 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Beelink MINI S is cheaper version of Beelink U59 Jasper Lake mini PC - CNX SoftwareMay 13 20:40
icuTOC thermal overclockMay 13 20:40
techrights-newsAs long as Beelink FORCES you to pay Microsoft and get malware (Windows) I don't see why CNX posts these pieces... except Beelink sends them GIFTS.May 13 20:41
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164819May 13 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 13 20:41
icuBeelink stingsMay 13 20:42
schestowitz-TRTable of ContentsMay 13 20:42
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22051332May 13 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://ram.komica2.net/00/src/1652186839018.jpg created on 2022-05-13 12:10:36.199941May 13 20:43
icuwhat was that site you could test your acronyms ?May 13 20:44
schestowitz-TRwikipedia?May 13 20:45
schestowitz-TRthere are many acrynym expanders/DBs onlineMay 13 20:45
MinceRcyborger!May 13 20:45
icuTemperate Oxidation CoefficientMay 13 20:49
icuTelnet Ospf CaptchaMay 13 20:50
icuhow to something smart thats meaniglessMay 13 20:50
icuTrackback Outbox CyberbullyingMay 13 20:51
icuhttps://www.abbreviations.com/acronym-generatorMay 13 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abbreviations.com | The Acronym GeneratorMay 13 20:52
icuyou can even do a quizMay 13 20:52
MinceRCyberbullying: Beyond EarthMay 13 20:53
icuCBE?May 13 20:53
MinceRno, just possibly the funniest map name from Ancient AliensMay 13 20:53
techrights-newsLinks 13/05/2022: GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/13/gcc-12-becoming-default-compiler-in-tumbleweed/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/13/gcc-12-becoming-default-compiler-in-tumbleweed/May 13 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/05/2022: GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed | TechrightsMay 13 20:58
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers (mostly programming) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164820May 13 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers (mostly programming) | Tux MachinesMay 13 20:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▇▃▄▅▆▅▅▆▆▅▂▂▅▄▅▅▅▅▃▄▄▄▅▅▂▅▃▇▅▅▆▅▅▇▄▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 23.45 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.50▕ swarm size (avg): 485.30  ⟲May 13 20:59
AdmFubarhttps://www.darkreading.com/risk/fraudulent-bot-driven-college-enrollment-up-50-new-study-findsMay 13 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Fraudulent 'Bot-driven' College Enrollment up 50%, New Study FindsMay 13 21:03
icuFBCMay 13 21:03
icuFuel Bioinformatic College EcosystemMay 13 21:05
icuthis one fits perfectllyMay 13 21:05
icuFraudulent 'Bot-driven' College Enrollment Fuels Bioinformatic College EcosystemMay 13 21:06
techrights-newsNVIDIA goes OPEN SOURCE, China moves to Linux, and Fortnite on Linux - Linux and open source news - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Rwh0wby2E50 ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaMay 13 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | NVIDIA goes OPEN SOURCE, China moves to Linux, and Fortnite on Linux - Linux and open source news - InvidiousMay 13 21:07
icubetter then you regular news titlesMay 13 21:08
techrights-newsUbuntu or Canonical will keep pushing Microsoft until nobody bothers with Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-2-group-policy-objects see http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/May 13 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Active Directory Integration features in Ubuntu 22.04 (part 2) – Group Policy Objects | UbuntuMay 13 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | TechrightsMay 13 21:08
techrights-newsMeanwhile LXer peddles WSL again, perhaps not understanding that that this is how Microsoft is ATTACKING GNU/Linux. WSL needs to die. It's not a a gateway, it's E.E.E.May 13 21:09
icuUbuntu is the dieng elephant going to rest at ms boneyardMay 13 21:10
icuactually none benifits more from linux diening then apple and googleMay 13 21:11
techrights-newsCloudflare has rapidly turned from nuisance into terminal cancer. Lots of Web sites I can no longer access (not even their RSS feeds!!!!!!!!!!) not because I use Tor but because I do not (and cannot) run proprietary JavaScript. Cloudflare as a company is NOT profitable. It LOSES money. It needs to shut down operations!! The sooner, the better.May 13 21:12
icuif apple didnt come along linux would have 10% market shareMay 13 21:12
techrights-newsThe founder of cloudflare (clownflare) is dead BTW. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22878136May 13 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | What Happened to Lee | Hacker NewsMay 13 21:13
schestowitz-TRapple did not "come alongmMay 13 21:14
schestowitz-TRapple has been around since the 1970sMay 13 21:14
schestowitz-TRgnu/linux has vastly more share than appleMay 13 21:15
schestowitz-TRbut it's not for-profitMay 13 21:15
schestowitz-TRand in laptops it's not used as muchMay 13 21:15
schestowitz-TRno marketingMay 13 21:15
techrights-newsAlmaLinux OS 8.6 Is Now Available for Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164781#comment-33657May 13 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Alternative AlmaLinux OS 8.6 Is Now Available for Download, Based on RHEL 8.6 | Tux MachinesMay 13 21:15
bnchsi remember hackintoshMay 13 21:15
bnchsthat was before apple switched to ARMMay 13 21:15
icui remenber bootcampMay 13 21:16
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18110448May 13 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/4eqmocrlm7w11.jpg created on 2018-11-04 15:38:46.511838May 13 21:16
icuapple only now switched to ARMMay 13 21:17
icubest thing about apple hardware was that you could install windows or linux on itMay 13 21:17
MinceRthey've been using ARM in their glorified featurephones for agesMay 13 21:17
psydruidI remember PowermacsMay 13 21:17
techrights-newsLinux Foundation is a source of FUD against Linux. Well, look who controls the organisation. https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/13/how-much-will-it-cost-to-secure-open-source-software-openssf-says-147-9m/May 13 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How much will it cost to secure open-source software? OpenSSF says $147.9M | VentureBeatMay 13 21:18
icuap'ple made trojanware the industry stANDARDMay 13 21:19
MinceRalso they made closed platforms popularMay 13 21:19
techrights-newsThis report cites Microsoft proxies as "sources" regarding "Open Source" security...May 13 21:19
icuYOU CANT HAVE A TROJAN OPENSOURCE AND SELL IT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE´~May 13 21:20
techrights-newsMicrosoft loves Linux so much that it cannot stop raping itMay 13 21:20
techrights-newsLinux Foundation quotes Jim Zemlin on security like Zemlin is a technical person. He is not. Charade, theatre, kakistocracy for FUDMay 13 21:23
techrights-newsIf you are a Linux user, Linux Foundation does not represent you. If you are a Microsoft fan, then maybe Linux Foundation does speak for you.May 13 21:23
techrights-news"Russia threatens internet service providers, while exerting propaganda and stretching control over the flow of information in the occupied territories." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/May 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access NowMay 13 21:24
techrights-newsWestern lies: "PROFESSIONAL journalism" (sponsored by oligarchs like Bezos). Russian lies: "disinformation". Consider the possibility that both are lying. They lie differently. They have different interests. Sometimes.May 13 21:25
AdmFubarthey will milk fruit users for all they can get for this   https://www.firstpost.com/tech/science/apple-working-on-secret-space-network-for-iphones-satellite-phones-10668431.htmlMay 13 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple is apparently planning to launch a secret space network for iPhones- Technology News, FirstpostMay 13 21:26
icuit will make pegasus software undetectableMay 13 21:27
techrights-newsHistory of mankind: our lies are just white lies, well intended. THEIRS are malicious and malevolent.May 13 21:27
activelowquickly tested mksh and zsh as drop-in replacement for bash with gentoo... epic fail... don't see a chance to keep gentoo without bashMay 13 21:27
activelowmeaning it will be all gone one day: gentoo, portage, bash... May 13 21:27
techrights-newsZemlin works for Microsoft. He's just not aware of it.May 13 21:27
activelowonce the system profile is stabilized, the complicated dependency tracking with gentoo won't be necessary anymoreMay 13 21:28
activelowdon't know all details, what POSIX covered with shell capabilities, in practice there isn't portabilityMay 13 21:29
techrights-newsMicrosoft is transmitting malware again, but guess who the media will blame (perpetrators and victims, not the carrier) https://linuxstoney.com/attack-on-german-companies-through-npm-packages/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/May 13 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attack on German companies through NPM packages - LinuxStoneyMay 13 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XVIII — The Story of NPM | TechrightsMay 13 21:29
icui think slackware is the distro for meMay 13 21:29
activelowi need a rudimentary dependency trackingMay 13 21:30
icuit doesnt draggs in 100 dependeciesMay 13 21:30
techrights-newsSUSE works like little but subsidiary of SAP. It even attacks the FOUNDER of GNU/Linux. While PUSHING mostly PROPRIETARY software (yes, RMS is harmful to this agenda, no doubt) https://www.suse.com/c/analytics-in-the-cloud-how-and-why-it-is-important-for-your-organization/May 13 21:30
activelowall linux with gnu userspace do, often, except for some niche minimal ones with busyboxMay 13 21:30
icuyou install x program if it doesnt work you just have to live with out itMay 13 21:31
schestowitz-TRslacware has a ton og goodwill still going for itMay 13 21:31
schestowitz-TRit never got corruptedMay 13 21:31
schestowitz-TRwith gentoo the founder sold outMay 13 21:31
schestowitz-TRslackware's name came under attackMay 13 21:31
schestowitz-TRfrom a company that called itself "slack"May 13 21:31
activelowgood question, how slackware tracks dependencies then, at some time they must do itMay 13 21:31
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activelowimplicitely or explicitelyMay 13 21:31
techrights-newsKernel 5.15.39 compiled in Easy Bookworm ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202205/kernel-51539-compiled-in-easy-bookworm.html ䷉ Source: bkhomeMay 13 21:32
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icuthere needs to be a unified progrming frameworkMay 13 21:32
schestowitz-TRwithin what context?May 13 21:32
schestowitz-TRlack of competition is not goodMay 13 21:33
schestowitz-TRstandards are OKMay 13 21:33
schestowitz-TRconsortia across industryMay 13 21:33
icuyou can do a program and it will run everywere with out depending on x y z DEMay 13 21:33
iculike midi filesMay 13 21:34
schestowitz-TReven competiting standards bodies can be goodMay 13 21:34
schestowitz-TRso the rotten, corrupt ones perishMay 13 21:34
activelowposix... wasn't this stallman's term for it?May 13 21:34
bnchsicu: midi files are dependent on a soundfont/syntheizerMay 13 21:34
bnchsand sounds different depending on THATMay 13 21:34
icua yes thats exactlly what i meanMay 13 21:35
bnchsso you want a program that runs differentlyMay 13 21:35
bnchsbut has the identical output?May 13 21:35
schestowitz-TRyes, posic is a term of rmsMay 13 21:35
schestowitz-TR*posixMay 13 21:35
icuits runs the same it only uses each DE bells and wistlesMay 13 21:35
schestowitz-TRof course some people like to pretend all rms ever did was mention esptein in some mit email to a large group of peopleMay 13 21:36
schestowitz-TRand wrote some dumb sentence of two in his site a decade agoMay 13 21:36
schestowitz-TRafter some gnu contributor wrote to himMay 13 21:36
bnchsschestowitz-TR, he wrote a VR robot fanfic in his siteMay 13 21:37
schestowitz-TRI never saw thatMay 13 21:38
schestowitz-TRhe does write a lotMay 13 21:38
icuthe program will have a set of parameters to define the menus the window size whatever and the DE just translates it to its way of drwing stuffMay 13 21:38
schestowitz-TRfor 30+ yearsMay 13 21:38
schestowitz-TRhe also wrote a lot of codeMay 13 21:38
schestowitz-TRvery productive, all this while traveling to give talk and speak to polticiansMay 13 21:38
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164821May 13 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 13 21:39
iculike midi doesnt care what the translation of its parameters areMay 13 21:39
bnchsschestowitz-TR, https://stallman.org/articles/made-for-you.htmlMay 13 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Made for YouMay 13 21:39
schestowitz-TRactivelow beat me to it re midiMay 13 21:39
schestowitz-TRmidi is not unifiedMay 13 21:39
schestowitz-TRI gew up doing tons of midiMay 13 21:40
schestowitz-TRand even back then some sound cards played it poorlyMay 13 21:40
schestowitz-TRyou could get a rewndered version of it to wavMay 13 21:40
schestowitz-TRor later mp*May 13 21:40
schestowitz-TRbut midi is just a specMay 13 21:40
bnchsmod files are betterMay 13 21:40
icuits not up to the midi files to tell you how  or in what way to translate its paremetersMay 13 21:40
icuwhats sound lib you are usingMay 13 21:41
schestowitz-TRthe output is not predictableMay 13 21:41
schestowitz-TRnot at the slightestMay 13 21:41
schestowitz-TReven the length an istrument plays is not specifiedMay 13 21:41
icuyou might want to play the same music on stribgs and it doesMay 13 21:41
schestowitz-TRor the speedMay 13 21:41
schestowitz-TRso the same midi file will give you many renditionMay 13 21:41
icuyou might wnat it use the metals section and it doesMay 13 21:41
bnchsit depends on the sound fontMay 13 21:42
bnchsthe soundlibMay 13 21:42
schestowitz-TRactivelow and I were born a month apart, iirc, so we probably saw the adlib generation and other sound blaster things making widely different soundsMay 13 21:42
schestowitz-TRbut young people don't understand thatMay 13 21:42
iculike a program would render on gnome completelly difrent then kde but with same functionallityMay 13 21:42
schestowitz-TRback then to store a 10MB MP3 or 100MB FLAC was not possibleMay 13 21:42
schestowitz-TRmy whole HDD/HD was like 170KB, inc. OSMay 13 21:42
bnchsicu: what if a soundfont lacks the instrument to play a certain noteMay 13 21:43
schestowitz-TR*170MBMay 13 21:43
schestowitz-TRgames would therefore send commands to the sound cardMay 13 21:43
icualso that would make programs possible alot slimmerMay 13 21:43
bnchsor the soundlib doesn't know what a certain MIDI event meansMay 13 21:43
schestowitz-TRnot stream of outputMay 13 21:43
schestowitz-TRlike with opencl/glMay 13 21:43
icuan instrument can arguablly play any noteMay 13 21:44
icuin fact theres only 7May 13 21:44
bnchsnoMay 13 21:44
icuyesMay 13 21:44
bnchsi mean a midi track set to an undefined instrumentMay 13 21:45
schestowitz-TRiirc, tempo is not definedMay 13 21:45
schestowitz-TRbut has defaultsMay 13 21:45
icuthats the "DE" job to chose the "instrument"May 13 21:45
bnchsi had many experience with midi filesMay 13 21:46
icuthis is just a metaphoreMay 13 21:46
techrights-newsCockpit 269 https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-269.htmlMay 13 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cockpit-project.org | Cockpit 269 — Cockpit ProjectMay 13 21:46
icudont get stuck with mifi tecnicalitiesMay 13 21:46
bnchsyeahMay 13 21:46
bnchs"When Sandra was three months old, she proudly told me that she had got a job designing meat vats, and that she had obtained adult status. "Now that I'm not your ward, we can make love." My virtual reality gear had the necessary features, so we did that right away. "May 13 21:46
techrights-news"A couple weeks ago the Fedora Community Outreach Revamp(FCOR) team announced that we would be organising an Ambassador Call Kick-off and collected feedback about availability." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/youre-invited-fedora-ambassador-call/May 13 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | You’re invited: Fedora Ambassador Call – Fedora Community BlogMay 13 21:47
icuyou can use the same rationale to some extent with automatic translationsMay 13 21:47
techrights-newsICBM schizo: one day is promotes clown computing (outsources), today is advocates "autonomy" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/autonomy-more-important-flexibilityMay 13 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 3 reasons autonomy is more important than flexibility | The Enterprisers ProjectMay 13 21:48
icubnchs whats this thing about sara?May 13 21:49
bnchsrichard stallman's fanficMay 13 21:49
icusandra or whateverMay 13 21:49
techrights-newsRed Hat Announces Upcoming Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33658May 13 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux MachinesMay 13 21:50
techrights-newsLocal availability of fast flash drives https://bkhome.org/news/202205/local-availability-of-fast-flash-drives.html I saw TONS of them in Tesco today. Didn't feel like there was any real shortage at all.May 13 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Local availability of fast flash drivesMay 13 21:51
icui dont see how is that relevantMay 13 21:51
bnchsnah it's just somethingMay 13 21:51
techrights-newsHow to 'cook' short-term profits: fake shortages, hope this will cause a panic-buying spree. Of course sales stop after that... but that's not your problem when you're an executive judged on a quarter-to-quarter basis.May 13 21:52
icuyou seem to be a RMS afictionadoMay 13 21:52
icusucks to be youMay 13 21:52
schestowitz-TRafictionado - noMay 13 21:52
schestowitz-TRsympathetic maybeMay 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRbecause we see him unfairly attacked a lotMay 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRhis haters do not understand himMay 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRthe antagonists use straw man arguments and liesMay 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRand by doing so they make him seem "martyr"May 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRit's an own goalMay 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRe.g.May 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRsaying RMS supports EpsteinMay 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRthat's Bill Gates, not RMSMay 13 21:53
schestowitz-TRRMS loathes EpsteinMay 13 21:54
icuthat again?May 13 21:54
schestowitz-TRand called him nasty things in his siteMay 13 21:54
schestowitz-TRicu: yes, that againMay 13 21:54
schestowitz-TRit was never correctedMay 13 21:54
schestowitz-TRso it seems like a lot of anti-RMS people are happy to cushion liesMay 13 21:54
schestowitz-TRit's an own goalMay 13 21:54
bnchshe pissed off the wrong peopleMay 13 21:55
icuand you seem happy to talk alot about it so what does that makes you?May 13 21:55
bnchsnow they're up at his throatMay 13 21:55
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techrights-news"You’ve probably heard about “ad blockers,” “tab managers,” “anti-trackers” or any number of browser customization tools commonly known as extensions. And maybe you’re intrigued to try one, but you’ve never installed an extension before and the whole notion just seems a bit obscure." https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/extension-starter-pack/May 13 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | Extension starter pack - Firefox Add-ons BlogMay 13 21:55
schestowitz-TRlol you just made me think:May 13 21:56
schestowitz-TRmaybe you could joke that by attacking epstein he annoyed esptein's friendMay 13 21:56
schestowitz-TRso they chose him as the scapegoatMay 13 21:56
schestowitz-TRe.g. at MITMay 13 21:56
bnchsscapegoatMay 13 21:56
schestowitz-TRto deflect attentionMay 13 21:56
schestowitz-TRoff GateMay 13 21:56
schestowitz-TRGatesMay 13 21:56
bnchsgonna cut his throat like a Eid Al FitrMay 13 21:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/May 13 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | TechrightsMay 13 21:56
icuthis channel is a Qanon offshotMay 13 21:58
techrights-newsONLYOFFICE 7.1 Office Suite Update Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164796#comment-33659May 13 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ONLYOFFICE Docs v7.1 released: ARM compatibility, PDF to DOCX conversion, Print preview in spreadsheets and more | Tux MachinesMay 13 21:58
schestowitz-TRicu: haha, go on then..May 13 21:58
schestowitz-TRso pointing out FACTS about gates = "qanon"May 13 21:58
schestowitz-TRcongrats, you help defend the crooksMay 13 21:59
schestowitz-TRicu: quick or fast forwardMay 13 21:59
schestowitz-TRthe police in Seattle did hand over the us the reportMay 13 21:59
schestowitz-TRalmost 3000 pagesMay 13 21:59
schestowitz-TRthere was an arrest in Gates' mansionMay 13 21:59
schestowitz-TRthere is no denying itMay 13 21:59
schestowitz-TRand we published most of the report (redacted)May 13 22:00
icuscrew you (only if you are over 19yo) schestowitzMay 13 22:00
bnchslolMay 13 22:00
schestowitz-TRit's also a fact that Gates lost his wife because of the Esptein situationMay 13 22:00
schestowitz-TRI won't take insults for pointing out verified factsMay 13 22:00
schestowitz-TRunless you also think Seattle Police sat there writing all those pages for "shits and giggles"May 13 22:01
icuwho gives a fuck about gates?May 13 22:01
schestowitz-TRor that Melinda Gates lied to the mediaMay 13 22:01
icuisnt this a linux channel?May 13 22:01
schestowitz-TRyou mentioned RMSMay 13 22:01
icustop spamming BSMay 13 22:01
schestowitz-TRRMS was attacked over a straw man argument and lieMay 13 22:01
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schestowitz-TRspamming by posting in techrights?May 13 22:01
schestowitz-TRtotally on-topic stuff?May 13 22:01
schestowitz-TRyou could instead act like a grown-up and learn somethingMay 13 22:02
schestowitz-TRyou can ask me for high-authority media references tooMay 13 22:02
schestowitz-TRand learn what's happeningMay 13 22:02
schestowitz-TRnow what PR campaigns led you to thinkMay 13 22:02
icugrown-up?May 13 22:02
schestowitz-TRyesMay 13 22:02
bnchsicu: are you a sysopMay 13 22:03
schestowitz-TRyou seem resistant to factasMay 13 22:03
schestowitz-TRand resort to name-callingMay 13 22:03
bnchsare you the owner of this irc serverMay 13 22:03
iculooks like kindergarden figer pointingMay 13 22:03
bnchsto determine whats on topic and whats not on topicMay 13 22:03
schestowitz-TRprojection ^May 13 22:03
icuLOLMay 13 22:03
techrights-newsWhen open source meets academic publishing: Platinum open access journals | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/5/platinum-open-access-academic-journals ䷉ Source: opensource.comMay 13 22:04
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icui get you wanna decide whats my topicMay 13 22:04
schestowitz-TRI never called you namesMay 13 22:04
schestowitz-TRit's more powerful to use factsMay 13 22:04
schestowitz-TRname-calling is what people do when effective/potent arguments have been exhaustedMay 13 22:05
icurgere are lots of factsMay 13 22:05
schestowitz-TRlike saying "qanon"May 13 22:05
schestowitz-TRqanon are brain-damaged peopleMay 13 22:05
icui can shoose my factsMay 13 22:05
schestowitz-TRwhom we always mockedMay 13 22:05
bnchsicu> who gives a fuck about gates? <-- asking it on #techrightsMay 13 22:05
icumaybe they are moking youMay 13 22:05
schestowitz-TRand it's used as a straw man to demonise the actual thingMay 13 22:05
schestowitz-TR[08:32] <techrights-news> "Take Bill Gates. Forget all the conspiracy theories about Gates and vaccines – it's bizarre that people bother to make up those fairy-tales when the truth is so much worse." ☛ https://pluralistic.net/2022/05/11/a-dent-in-the-universe/#eminently-guillotineable | Source: CoryDoctorowMay 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRnewMay 13 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 11 May 2022 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowMay 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRit's a PR tacticMay 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRmake a truth seem like "truthers"May 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRand "crazy"May 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRby crating some distorted, fictional theoriesMay 13 22:06
icui get it now Qanon was made to mock you idiotsMay 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRnoMay 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRthe media props up bogus storiesMay 13 22:06
schestowitz-TRto make it seem like the accurate accounts are the sameMay 13 22:07
icuthat makes senceMay 13 22:07
schestowitz-TRas the BSMay 13 22:07
schestowitz-TRit's an old PR tacticMay 13 22:07
icumakes sence tooMay 13 22:07
schestowitz-TRwhen you cannot deny somethingMay 13 22:07
schestowitz-TRmake a straw manMay 13 22:07
schestowitz-TRBillBC did that last weekMay 13 22:07
schestowitz-TRBill has paid them for a decadeMay 13 22:07
schestowitz-TRand now they help him portray his critics as "cranks"May 13 22:08
icuBill is a pedo so what?May 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRnoMay 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRdon't knowMay 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRthat's what the fools would leap toMay 13 22:08
icuwhatever the facts areMay 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRbut it's a fact that he was very close to EspteinMay 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRso close his wife divorced himMay 13 22:08
icuI DONT GIVE A SHITMay 13 22:08
icu~May 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRokMay 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRlater you willMay 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRyou cannot hold the shit in for long :-)May 13 22:08
schestowitz-TRbblMay 13 22:09
icume?May 13 22:09
schestowitz-TRthis chat became a waste of timeMay 13 22:09
icuyou just now discovered that?May 13 22:09
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icuarent you the smart appleMay 13 22:09
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/05/04/media-still-distracts/May 13 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Frenzy Around Gates Divorce Helps Distract From Bill’s Crimes | TechrightsMay 13 22:10
schestowitz-TRicu: have a lookMay 13 22:10
schestowitz-TRit's a roundupMay 13 22:10
schestowitz-TRyou might find that helpfulMay 13 22:10
schestowitz-TRI'll be back to IRC later, I strart work at 1amMay 13 22:10
schestowitz-TRand want to clean my RSS feedsMay 13 22:10
icumy interest in that is -100May 13 22:10
techrights-news[Buzzword] inspiration from Toyota Production System and Lean considered harmful https://blogs.fsfe.org/agger/2022/05/12/devops-inspiration-from-toyota-production-system-and-lean-considered-harmful/May 13 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.fsfe.org | DevOps inspiration from Toyota Production System and Lean considered harmful — agger's Free Software blogMay 13 22:11
techrights-news"I felt a bit cheap compared to the other guests who were preparing full-on meals with avocado, rice and eggs, but this was inexpensive and quick which was important, since I was going to have a video call later the morning." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/13/europe-trip-journal-entry-10-pub-crawl/May 13 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jabberhead.tk | Europe Trip Journal – Entry 10: Pub Crawl – vanitasvitae's blogMay 13 22:11
bnchsicu, what are you here forMay 13 22:12
bnchsnothing but mindless trolling?May 13 22:12
techrights-newsFree software brings people around the world together. Proprietary software brings intelligence agencies around the world together ("data sharing"... data about all of us).May 13 22:12
techrights-news"Papercups is an open-source self-hosted live customer support tool web app written in Elixir language." https://medevel.com/papercups/May 13 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Add a live chat to your website or web app with PapercupsMay 13 22:13
icuwell to dig up Bill privet shit sure isnt one of themMay 13 22:13
icui couldnt care lessMay 13 22:13
techrights-newsLeon is your next open-source personal assistant https://medevel.com/leon-ai/May 13 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Leon is your next open-source personal assistantMay 13 22:13
techrights-newssqlite-utils: a nice way to import data into SQLite for analysis https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/05/12/sqlite-utils--a-nice-way-to-import-data-into-sqlite/May 13 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | sqlite-utils: a nice way to import data into SQLite for analysisMay 13 22:14
icui dont read the SUN nor anyof that pink crapMay 13 22:15
schestowitz-TRthe tabloids help gatesMay 13 22:15
schestowitz-TRby promoting the crank stuffMay 13 22:15
schestowitz-TRand doing the decoy with BS storiesMay 13 22:15
schestowitz-TRto discredit the reality using similar-sounding fictionMay 13 22:15
icui dont care how verisimilitude it hasMay 13 22:16
Ariadnei spend the overwhelming majority of my time not thinking either way about RMS, but i will say that he did not simp for epstein in the MIT mailing list thread in questionMay 13 22:17
techrights-newsMicrosoft is not "Open Source Leader" https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/open-source-leaders-push-wh-for-security-action-176531.htmlMay 13 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open Source Leaders Push WH for Security Action | LinuxInsiderMay 13 22:17
techrights-newsWhite House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on ‘Open Source’ Security http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/May 13 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on ‘Open Source’ Security | TechrightsMay 13 22:18
techrights-newsThere is no "Magic" to it. Pure marketing. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-alternatives-apple-magic-keyboard/May 13 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 9 of the Best Alternatives to Apple's Magic Keyboard - Make Tech EasierMay 13 22:19
techrights-newsIntroducing Easy Bookworm ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202205/introducing-easy-bookworm.html ䷉ Source: bkhome | easyOSMay 13 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Introducing Easy BookwormMay 13 22:19
techrights-newsZDNet is once again helping Microsoft's attacks on GNU/Linux. I don't even want to link to that...May 13 22:20
techrights-newsZDNet "Linux" section... brought to you by Microsoft media operatives like Mary Jo Foley. Avoid that site. They tarnish the brand. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022May 13 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsMay 13 22:21
techrights-newsRemi Collet: PHP version 8.0.19 and 8.1.6 https://blog.remirepo.net/post/2022/05/13/PHP-version-8.0.19-and-8.1.6May 13 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.remirepo.net | PHP version 8.0.19 and 8.1.6 - Remi's RPM repository - BlogMay 13 22:21
techrights-newsDebian (which we use on four machines) manages to recruit just one Developer a month. Not enough, DPL admits. Maybe they need better leadership. https://bits.debian.org/2022/05/new-developers-2022-04.htmlMay 13 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bits.debian.org | New Debian Developers and Maintainers (March and April 2022) - Bits from DebianMay 13 22:22
icuwho defines what dependencies a program needs?May 13 22:23
techrights-newsEasyOS .img file now not compressed ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202205/easyos-img-file-now-not-compressed.html ䷉ Source: bkhomeMay 13 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | EasyOS .img file now not compressedMay 13 22:23
icui bet many dont need as much has they claimMay 13 22:23
icujust like app store apps with permissionsMay 13 22:23
icuthe spywareSOs storeMay 13 22:25
icuLOLMay 13 22:25
icuspyware as a serviceMay 13 22:25
icuand people think google fb apple profits come from advertisingMay 13 22:26
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techrights-newsLF brags about Windows program developed on Microsoft's proprietary prison https://linuxfoundation.org/featured/the-open-3d-foundation-announces-latest-enhancements-to-open-3d-engine-invites-o3dcon-call-for-proposals/May 13 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | The Open 3D Foundation Announces Latest Enhancements to Open 3D Engine, Invites O3DCon 'Call for Proposals' - Linux FoundationMay 13 22:27
techrights-newsGNU/Linux Out Loud: "Welcome to episode 13 of Linux Out Loud. We fired up our mics, connected those headphones as we searched the community for themes to expound upon. We kept the banter friendly, the conversation somewhat on topic, and had fun doing it." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/linux-out-loud/lol-13/May 13 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-13: Distro of the Fledgling - Linux Out Loud - TuxDigitalMay 13 22:28
techrights-newsThe Second Best Time to Protect Your Privacy - Purism ⚓ https://puri.sm/posts/the-second-best-time-to-protect-your-privacy/ ䷉ Source: purismMay 13 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | The Second Best Time to Protect Your Privacy – PurismMay 13 22:29
techrights-newsopenSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2022/19 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164809#comment-33660May 13 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesMay 13 22:30
icuhttps://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/13/calling-a-man-bald-counts-as-sexual-harassment-uk-judge-rules.htmlMay 13 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Calling a man bald counts as sexual harassment, UK judge rulesMay 13 22:31
techrights-newsIP3 Awards Nominations - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/ip3nominations/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledge (sadly now infiltrated by Microsoft)May 13 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | IP3 Awards Nominations - Public KnowledgeMay 13 22:32
schestowitz-TRicuMay 13 22:32
icuheil to england if only Bill would be a UK citizenMay 13 22:32
schestowitz-TRlet me get this rightMay 13 22:32
schestowitz-TRyou post the above "man bites dog" clickbairMay 13 22:32
schestowitz-TRwhile accusing a TECHRIGHTS news bot in #TECHRIGHTS IRC of "spamming"May 13 22:32
schestowitz-TRfor posting tech news?May 13 22:32
schestowitz-TRand then want to be taken seriously?May 13 22:33
schestowitz-TRthe above link is all gender warsMay 13 22:33
schestowitz-TRtrying to incite genders against one anotherMay 13 22:33
schestowitz-TRthe "men as victim" crowdMay 13 22:33
schestowitz-TRif you don't want to seem like a troll, then quit acting like oneMay 13 22:34
icubla bla blaMay 13 22:34
schestowitz-TRyeahMay 13 22:34
schestowitz-TRe4xactlyMay 13 22:34
bnchsthis is probably just a kidMay 13 22:34
icui didnt made up this storyMay 13 22:34
schestowitz-TRthere are two channels suitable for CNBC clickbaitMay 13 22:34
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schestowitz-TR#techpol and #boycottnovell-socialMay 13 22:34
schestowitz-TRso we can focus on tech hereMay 13 22:35
schestowitz-TRand now argue about divisive gender warsMay 13 22:35
icumaybe flooding is a better wordingMay 13 22:35
techrights-newsZDNet spews out "LINUX" to promote MICROSOFT PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE.May 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRicu: you can mute itMay 13 22:36
icuare you gona CoC me now?May 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRif it's too much for youMay 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRsee MOTD in this networkMay 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRwe don't have a CoCMay 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRwe expect people to not be "dicks"May 13 22:36
icusounded like itMay 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRand to behave reasonably OKMay 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRyou name-callMay 13 22:36
icutrying to incite genders against one anotherMay 13 22:36
schestowitz-TRso people will liekly ignore youMay 13 22:36
Ariadnetechrights is not SOC2 certifiedMay 13 22:37
schestowitz-TRuntil you get boredMay 13 22:37
Ariadneso sadMay 13 22:37
*schestowitz-TR back to posting linksMay 13 22:37
icuLOLMay 13 22:37
bnchsicu: pissed off?May 13 22:37
icuyou and your half a dosen of sad peepsMay 13 22:37
bnchssure i'll post more linksMay 13 22:37
techrights-newsLook what companies are in this thing. They relay everyone's data to the NSA. That itself is a data breach. https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/linux-openssf-champion-10-point-plan-to-improve-open-source-securityMay 13 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Linux, OpenSSF Champion Plan to Improve Open Source SecurityMay 13 22:38
icuso will iMay 13 22:38
bnchscoolMay 13 22:38
icuhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/13/calling-a-man-bald-is-sexual-harassment-employment-tribunal-rulesMay 13 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Calling a man ‘bald’ is sexual harassment, employment tribunal rules | Sexual harassment | The GuardianMay 13 22:39
icuis this more palative to you your highnessMay 13 22:39
techrights-newsSteven Vaughan-Nichols is paid to have become a corporate writer for corporate front group, with his occasional defamation against the communityMay 13 22:39
Ariadneschestowitz-TR: while i am skeptical that the OpenSSF will actually do anything useful, only a handful of the companies involved participate in PRISM :upsideMay 13 22:40
Ariadnewow, stupid fucking irc clientMay 13 22:40
schestowitz-TRAriadne: yes it's not all badMay 13 22:40
schestowitz-TRbut they will not pursue a full solutionMay 13 22:41
schestowitz-TRthe approach they have isMay 13 22:41
schestowitz-TRwe need your dataMay 13 22:41
schestowitz-TRwe pass it aroundMay 13 22:41
schestowitz-TRbut trust usMay 13 22:41
schestowitz-TRnotice no chinese and russian companies thereMay 13 22:41
schestowitz-TRit's not about securityMay 13 22:41
schestowitz-TRit's six-eyesMay 13 22:41
Ariadneyou are aware that there are sanctions in place, rightMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRyesMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRand LF compliesMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRbecause LF is part of that May 13 22:42
icusix-eyes is all bout securityMay 13 22:42
Ariadnei mean they don't really have any option but to complyMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRsadMay 13 22:42
Ariadnefailure to comply is literally a crimeMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRmaybe we should re-decentralise LinuxMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRlike when it was in HelsinkiMay 13 22:42
Ariadnethe FSF also complies with the same sanctionsMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRHelsinki is not yet in NATOMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRor six-eyesMay 13 22:42
schestowitz-TRand it doesn't send data to the fusion centresMay 13 22:43
Ariadnethey deactivated the memberships of russian contributors because of the sanctionsMay 13 22:43
schestowitz-TRinteretingMay 13 22:43
schestowitz-TRI saw no reports on that..May 13 22:43
schestowitz-TRLibreOffice/TDF did somethingMay 13 22:43
schestowitz-TRbut not for contributorsMay 13 22:43
schestowitz-TRfor a sponsorMay 13 22:43
icuThe Price of Security is Eternal Vigilance -> thats what they think off "securtity"May 13 22:44
Ariadneschestowitz-TR: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-02/msg00056.htmlMay 13 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?May 13 22:44
Ariadneschestowitz-TR: no more FSF membership for russians at the moment :)May 13 22:44
icucivil liberty be damnedMay 13 22:44
schestowitz-TR"Vigilance" = mass surveillance, intelligenceMay 13 22:45
icuim i my brothers keeper? YESMay 13 22:45
schestowitz-TRhttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-02/msg00055.htmlMay 13 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?May 13 22:45
schestowitz-TR(just for context)May 13 22:46
schestowitz-TRwe covered this in techriughtsMay 13 22:46
schestowitz-TRhow FSF treads carefullyMay 13 22:46
schestowitz-TRand tries to dodge the issuesMay 13 22:46
schestowitze.g. http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/May 13 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) ‘Censored’ But Not Ignored | TechrightsMay 13 22:47
schestowitz-TRFSF is ina  tough place...May 13 22:47
schestowitz-TRBostonMay 13 22:47
schestowitz-TRand a political climate where you must presume all russians are evilMay 13 22:48
schestowitz-TRand ban themMay 13 22:48
schestowitz-TRelse, you are "with Putin"May 13 22:48
schestowitz-TRXRevan86 is Russian and is strongly against PutinMay 13 22:48
schestowitz-TRhe also contributesd a lot to gnu/linuxMay 13 22:48
schestowitz-TRcontributesMay 13 22:48
schestowitz-TRso only a foolish org would sanction himMay 13 22:48
icuracists love xenophobiaMay 13 22:48
icuits a steping stoneMay 13 22:48
Ariadneschestowitz-TR: unfortunately laws are lawsMay 13 22:49
schestowitz-TRlaws changeMay 13 22:49
Ariadnethey doMay 13 22:49
schestowitz-TRand there is also civil disobedienceMay 13 22:49
schestowitz"laws are laws" http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/May 13 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | TechrightsMay 13 22:49
schestowitz-TRno debateMay 13 22:49
schestowitz-TRsome lobbyists write lawMay 13 22:50
schestowitz-TRso laws are lawsMay 13 22:50
schestowitz-TRcause some rich people paid them to change the lawMay 13 22:50
schestowitz-TRand also bribed the politiciansMay 13 22:50
schestowitz-TRtoo busy tweeting instead of reading what bills they VOTE onMay 13 22:50
techrights-newsTPMs? No thanks!! https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/aws_tpm_smartnic/May 13 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Those NitroTPMs Amazon teased really are coming to AWS EC2 • The RegisterMay 13 22:51
icupoliticians are only elected because the "algorithms" upvote themMay 13 22:51
techrights-newsAWS = data breach. You've given away all your data (and customers' data) to the government, usually a foreign government http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/May 13 22:52
icuso you really need to rub the spyware platforms in all the right waysMay 13 22:52
techrights-news"The diffoscope maintainers are pleased to announce the release of diffoscope version 212." https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-212-released/May 13 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 212 releasedMay 13 22:53
icuwhy did elon just spent 44billions with out a care in the worldMay 13 22:54
icuthat was the platform he didn't controlMay 13 22:55
techrights-news"Confidential computing" = security threatre. We stole all your data, but don't worry, we'll do "security things" to it. TRUST US! Linux Foundation: "Confidential computing" is fantastic. Companies that are bribing us while stealing your data pay us to say that. EPO also: http://techrights.org/2021/12/21/the-unlawful-normalised/May 13 22:55
icuyou cant loose if you own all the cardsMay 13 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO’s Privacy Violations Being ‘Normalised’ | TechrightsMay 13 22:55
schestowitz-TRnow he says they fake trafficMay 13 22:55
schestowitz-TRwhich is correctMay 13 22:55
schestowitz-TRso might not buyMay 13 22:55
schestowitz-TRjust let it sink to deathMay 13 22:55
schestowitz-TRsame thing Microsoft and Icahn did to Yahoo!May 13 22:56
schestowitz-TR[16:06] <techrights-news> He's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/\May 13 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Elon Musk puts Twitter deal on hold over bot count • The RegisterMay 13 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/\ )May 13 22:56
schestowitz-TR https://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/May 13 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | TechrightsMay 13 22:56
icufake traffic? rgey do that? nooooooes waaaayyyMay 13 22:56
schestowitz-TRFB does it tooMay 13 22:57
icuthats some conspiracy theoryMay 13 22:57
schestowitz-TR"everyone is doing it!!"May 13 22:57
schestowitz-TRThey got sued over itMay 13 22:57
schestowitz-TRand lostMay 13 22:57
schestowitz-TRsettled with shareholdersMay 13 22:57
schestowitz-TRFOMO requires false assumptionsMay 13 22:57
icunot in the USA the land of the freeMay 13 22:58
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icuNEVER!!May 13 22:58
*goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@fvvmgk8pjamwa.irc) has joined #techrightsMay 13 22:58
icuhttps://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23070306/elon-musk-twitter-deal-on-hold-spam-inauthentic-accountsMay 13 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Elon Musk says Twitter deal ‘temporarily on hold’ - The VergeMay 13 22:59
schestowitz-TRhe is RIGHTMay 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRI can't believe I say thisMay 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRbut..May 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRhe got lots of free pressMay 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRthat's him main skillMay 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRlike TrumpMay 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRattracting free media coverageMay 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRhe might not spend a dime AND>..May 13 23:00
schestowitz-TRand a shareholder profit from thisMay 13 23:00
icuat least he deosent make a complete fool of him self like trumpMay 13 23:01
icujust fool enough to be deemed witedMay 13 23:01
schestowitz-TR[10:40] <techrights-news> "The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is reportedly investigating Elon Musk’s delayed reporting after he acquired a sizable stake" ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3485554-feds-investigating-musks-late-disclosure-of-twitter-stake-report/ | Source: The HillMay 13 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Feds investigating Musk’s late disclosure of Twitter stake: report | The HillMay 13 23:02
schestowitz-TR(this week)May 13 23:02
Ariadneschestowitz-TR: actually i just noticed Alibaba is part of OpenSSF, and they are chineseMay 13 23:02
schestowitz-TRah, OK, a token one :-)May 13 23:02
schestowitz-TRjapan is six eyesMay 13 23:03
schestowitz-TRthere are several of thoseMay 13 23:03
schestowitz-TRmaybe LF got special permission from DoD ;-)May 13 23:03
schestowitz-TRsame for the boardMay 13 23:03
icuchina is a 1billion eyeMay 13 23:03
techrights-newsSoftware: diffoscope, Leon, Papercups, and Cockpit • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164822May 13 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: diffoscope, Leon, Papercups, and Cockpit | Tux MachinesMay 13 23:03
icuso the west got alot of catching upMay 13 23:03
bnchschinese devices have more insecuritiesMay 13 23:04
bnchsand i don't know whyMay 13 23:04
goosestepping_good day, citizens.May 13 23:04
icuinsecurities? no ... security featuresMay 13 23:04
schestowitz-TRdid someone measure?May 13 23:04
schestowitz-TRand break it down by country of OEM?May 13 23:04
bnchsschestowitz-TR, there's a chinese company that makes CCTV camerasMay 13 23:05
bnchscalled dahuaMay 13 23:05
schestowitz-TRcountries are "not good" at finding their  own holes... that they plan to be thereMay 13 23:05
bnchsthey had many security vulnerabilites which either allowed attackers full access to the CCTV systemMay 13 23:05
icugoggle is shuting down proper avenues from the store so they need other waysMay 13 23:05
bnchsor/and the LANMay 13 23:05
schestowitz-TRCCTV was supposed to be CLOSED circuitMay 13 23:05
schestowitz-TRand now LAN or Internet connectedMay 13 23:05
schestowitz-TRthose are stupid toysMay 13 23:05
bnchsthey actually tried to DOWNPLAY the vulnerabilitesMay 13 23:05
schestowitz-TRand gizmos unfit for purposeMay 13 23:05
bnchsand even failed to patch those for yearsMay 13 23:05
schestowitz-TRlike an intercom that goes through gulagMay 13 23:06
schestowitz-TRwhen you could instead just wire the two endsMay 13 23:06
icujust like xisco routersMay 13 23:06
bnchsschestowitz-TR, you can find many exposed dahua devicesMay 13 23:07
bnchseven with unpatched vulnerabilitesMay 13 23:07
bnchsshows how much secure china isMay 13 23:07
schestowitz-TRseems like a bad solutionMay 13 23:08
schestowitz-TRthat ought not be deployedMay 13 23:08
schestowitz-TRI would not trust the western ones eithereMay 13 23:08
schestowitz-TRprobably "Alexa-enabled" junkMay 13 23:08
schestowitz-TRa government-connected microphone inside your own homeMay 13 23:08
schestowitz-TROrwell would turn in the grave, or WinstonMay 13 23:08
bnchswhat would you trust the mostMay 13 23:09
bnchsa computer with pfsense installedMay 13 23:09
bnchsor some unknown brand name routerMay 13 23:09
schestowitz-TRwhat is that computer?May 13 23:09
schestowitz-TRthe computer too can have issuesMay 13 23:09
schestowitz-TRpfsense wants a net connectionMay 13 23:09
Ariadnei use PCEngines APU2 with corebootMay 13 23:10
schestowitz-TRwho knows that the ethernet adapter doesMay 13 23:10
Ariadneand alpineMay 13 23:10
Ariadne🙃May 13 23:10
bnchsofc you use alpineMay 13 23:10
schestowitz-TRit is more minimalist, smaller attack surfaceMay 13 23:10
Ariadneidk busybox is a pretty huge attack surfaceMay 13 23:11
schestowitz-TRyou don't want your car to have apache with open 81 portMay 13 23:11
bnchsschestowitz-TR, yeah and intel me and all thatMay 13 23:11
bnchsISPs are starting to crack down on "unauthorized" routersMay 13 23:11
bnchsand starting to force people to use THEIR routersMay 13 23:11
Ariadnestrange ispMay 13 23:12
bnchsfor security or some shitMay 13 23:12
Ariadnei use a local one which does not care at allMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TRsometimes just being offline isMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TR1) eayMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TR*erasyMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TRand 2) safeMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TRtoday we shopped with no tracking on usMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TRpaid cashMay 13 23:12
Ariadnethey gave me an SFP+ module and i plugged it into my APU2May 13 23:12
bnchsAriadne, they don't enforce this on ADSLMay 13 23:12
*Ariadne shrugMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TRthe masks further obscure ID, but it's for health reasonsMay 13 23:12
bnchsbut on fibre optic they doMay 13 23:12
schestowitz-TRour shopping list is our shopping listMay 13 23:13
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm legally not allowed to approve of sanctions.May 13 23:13
schestowitz-TRnot "big data"May 13 23:13
bnchsbut you have a cool ISPMay 13 23:13
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: your presidentviolates the conastitutionMay 13 23:13
icutoday we shopped with no tracking on us > only the CCTV tracked youMay 13 23:13
schestowitz-TRmake him a dealMay 13 23:13
schestowitz-TRyou will obey the law when he does.. or diesMay 13 23:13
schestowitz-TRicu: noMay 13 23:14
schestowitz-TRthe cctv knows nothing about meMay 13 23:14
XRevan86schestowitz: Tempting, but I doubt Comrade Major will relay that deal.May 13 23:14
Ariadneobscuring ID is goodMay 13 23:14
schestowitz-TRI have a bike hemmet and 2 masksMay 13 23:14
Ariadnenormalize masksMay 13 23:14
schestowitz-TR*helmetMay 13 23:14
schestowitz-TRand the shop is 8 km from usMay 13 23:14
bnchsall i could understand from this is they're doing this because their routers have backdoorsMay 13 23:14
XRevan86https://github.com/DeaDBeeF-Player/deadbeef/commit/d68495890fab7e3ac63674df72d8de82a592d78f sighMay 13 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remove unsupported language localization · DeaDBeeF-Player/deadbeef@d684958 · GitHubMay 13 23:14
bnchsprobably doing this*May 13 23:15
icuCCTV can track plates RZMay 13 23:15
icuEZMay 13 23:15
bnchsdepends on the quality of the cameraMay 13 23:15
icuthats even betterMay 13 23:15
*schestowitz-TR thinks fridges should not have microphones and cameras in them... or ethernet components... or wifiMay 13 23:15
bnchsschestowitz-TR, do you think toilets should have themMay 13 23:15
bnchsor your sinkMay 13 23:15
icudid you politilly ask the CCTV if it was able to track you?May 13 23:16
schestowitz-TRbnchs: some people think they shouldMay 13 23:16
schestowitz-TRwe need to talk to these peopleMay 13 23:16
schestowitz-TRCCTV is uselessMay 13 23:16
icuWC fack mirrorsMay 13 23:16
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/05/25/surveillance/May 13 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » CCTV Not EffectiveMay 13 23:16
icufakeMay 13 23:16
icufake mirrors on WC thats comon practiceMay 13 23:17
techrights-newsNetworkManager 1.38 Released with IPv6 and Wi-Fi Hotspot Improvements, More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164823May 13 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.38 Released with IPv6 and Wi-Fi Hotspot Improvements, More | Tux MachinesMay 13 23:17
icuand they samplke you poop for drugsMay 13 23:17
icuand urineMay 13 23:18
icuits a public bathroom!May 13 23:18
icupublic piss and poopMay 13 23:18
icuits a free for allMay 13 23:18
icubesides DNAMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRfor your healthMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRand safetyMay 13 23:19
bnchsthey put cameras in toiletMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRand fitnessMay 13 23:19
Ariadneso many of these enterprise "open source supply chain security" things are such a jokeMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRthey trst it for youMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRand can report if you have cancerMay 13 23:19
Ariadnethey just check if github says it is legit or notMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRit's a PUBLIC SERVICEMay 13 23:19
bnchs2015: that's bad, what a pervertMay 13 23:19
bnchs2022: lol they won't know it's me anywayMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRAriadne: yes, snakeoilMay 13 23:19
schestowitz-TRI am going to do a chain of links about it in tuxmachinesMay 13 23:20
schestowitz-TRinc. one about NPMMay 13 23:20
schestowitz-TRthey always blame thevictimMay 13 23:20
schestowitz-TRbecause Microsoft sent malware to themMay 13 23:20
Ariadneschestowitz-TR: it is an important space, but like 90% snakeoilMay 13 23:20
icuthen you wonder why your health insurance gets pumped up?May 13 23:20
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft does not check or scan what it sends to peopleMay 13 23:20
schestowitz-TRand then it blames "open source" and the users of itMay 13 23:20
bnchsnpmMay 13 23:21
Ariadnenpm gets the "award" for "most improvement" in supply chain i guessMay 13 23:21
icuopen source meaning goglleMay 13 23:21
bnchsit's both brandon and node.js's faultMay 13 23:21
schestowitz-TRicu: we have national health insuranceMay 13 23:21
Ariadnethey are still terribleMay 13 23:21
schestowitz-TRso you do not get penalised either wayMay 13 23:21
icuif that good enough for youMay 13 23:21
bnchsthe amount of languages relying on their own package manager is risingMay 13 23:22
schestowitz-TRCSO of GitHub is NSAMay 13 23:22
schestowitz-TRmakes you wonderMay 13 23:22
schestowitz-TRwhat "security" means toi GitHub (Microsoft)May 13 23:22
schestowitz-TRRussia should not trust downloads from thereMay 13 23:22
schestowitz-TRexcept maybe with Tor/VPNMay 13 23:22
icubnchs divide and conquerMay 13 23:23
bnchsmicrosoft is known (and still known) for having horrible QAMay 13 23:23
bnchsor quality controlMay 13 23:23
techrights-newsRed Hat/Fedora Family and IBM • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164824May 13 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora Family and IBM | Tux MachinesMay 13 23:23
bnchsthey will let in some dangerous packagesMay 13 23:23
schestowitz-TRno no..May 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRyou got it all wrongMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRit's all about trustMay 13 23:24
icumicrosoft is known (and still known) for having horrible QA THEY JUST HAD PEOPLE UNISTALLING UPDATESMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRCAsMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRchain of trustMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRtrust GulagMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRTrust GitHubMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRdon't trust your friendsMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRself-signed site from the MAKER OF ITS OWN SOFTWARE? BAD.May 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRNeed to OUTSOURCE trust.May 13 23:24
bnchsnpm's system is flawedMay 13 23:24
icujust the pain of having to install them just to uninstall themMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRDoD knows bestMay 13 23:24
bnchsbecause it's easy to just put your packagesMay 13 23:24
bnchswithout any verificationsMay 13 23:24
schestowitz-TRor change themMay 13 23:25
bnchsunlike GNU/Linux distributions, where they do strict testingMay 13 23:25
schestowitz-TRwordpress had this issue way back in 2004May 13 23:25
icuit takes ages to install MS updates on my machinesMay 13 23:25
schestowitz-TRwhen i was more involved]May 13 23:25
schestowitz-TRthey realise people would upload extensions, themes, or bothMay 13 23:25
schestowitz-TRand change them to do malicious thingsMay 13 23:25
schestowitz-TReither for harm or financial gainMay 13 23:25
schestowitz-TRso Alex King started to manually study the submissionsMay 13 23:25
schestowitz-TRbut then each version needs checking againMay 13 23:26
schestowitz-TRand as software gets more bloated it's impossible to keep upMay 13 23:26
schestowitz-TRsomeone asked in Debian's mailing lists about it last monthMay 13 23:26
schestowitz-TRinstead they shifted to another topiMay 13 23:26
schestowitz-TRnon-free/firmwareMay 13 23:26
schestowitz-TRso the original topic was 'forgotten'May 13 23:26
schestowitz-TReven just 1 or 2 among 1000 debian contributors can be spiesMay 13 23:26
schestowitz-TRfor nsaMay 13 23:26
schestowitz-TRor bndMay 13 23:27
schestowitz-TRor kipoMay 13 23:27
icui got lots of warnning about missing firmwares for AMDGPUMay 13 23:27
schestowitz-TRand if they upload to the ftp/similar some rogue package that many packages useMay 13 23:27
schestowitz-TRlike ooensslMay 13 23:27
iculast kernel updateMay 13 23:27
Ariadne5:26 PM <schestowitz-TR> even just 1 or 2 among 1000 debian contributors can be spiesMay 13 23:27
schestowitz-TRthey can do huge damageMay 13 23:27
icuwhat was that about?May 13 23:27
schestowitz-TReven with just 2 lines of code changed, to lower entropyMay 13 23:27
Ariadnei am planning to revise alpine's developer access background check guidelines to deal with thisMay 13 23:27
schestowitz-TRyeahMay 13 23:27
schestowitz-TRyou shoulkdMay 13 23:27
schestowitz-TRand core packages need careful double-checkingMay 13 23:28
schestowitz-TRsome distros would not adopt latest version of these until 6-12 months laterMay 13 23:28
bnchsthe problem with npm's designMay 13 23:29
schestowitz-TRdebian chain of treust is just one dd signing for another new ddMay 13 23:29
schestowitz-TRin theory gchq can blackmail or bribe either, or both..May 13 23:29
Ariadnethe problem with npm's design is the same problem as pypi, etcMay 13 23:29
icudo you know way i got lots of warnings about AMGPU missing firmware?May 13 23:29
bnchsis that it lacks the double checking distributions would usually doMay 13 23:29
Ariadnethere is no reviewMay 13 23:29
schestowitz-TRcan even write the patch for themMay 13 23:29
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bnchsAriadne, yesMay 13 23:29
schestowitz-TRor do so without disclosing the source or intentMay 13 23:29
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schestowitz-TRthey blackmailed the brother of a friend here, 15+ years agoMay 13 23:29
schestowitz-TRjail or work for usMay 13 23:29
schestowitz-TRafter he has tinkered with some BT exchangesMay 13 23:30
Ariadnea mitigation is that developers should sign their releasesMay 13 23:30
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Ariadnebut PKI is hardMay 13 23:30
schestowitz-TRmany people lost faith in a lot of the toolchainsMay 13 23:30
schestowitz-TRand make their ownMay 13 23:30
schestowitz-TRor form a  new circle of trustMay 13 23:31
schestowitz-TRopenbsd seems meticulousMay 13 23:31
icuopensuse just elected GCC12 to be the standrd compilerMay 13 23:31
Ariadnealpine 3.17 will also use gcc12May 13 23:32
schestowitz-TRtumbleweed has just adopted itMay 13 23:32
schestowitz-TR[20:58] <techrights-news> Links 13/05/2022: GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/13/gcc-12-becoming-default-compiler-in-tumbleweed/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/13/gcc-12-becoming-default-compiler-in-tumbleweed/May 13 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/05/2022: GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed | TechrightsMay 13 23:33
schestowitz-TRmany in SUSE work on GCCMay 13 23:33
icui thought llvm was better or more perfomantMay 13 23:33
Ariadnei already have the packages staged, but we are frozen for alpine 3.16 release atmMay 13 23:33
Ariadneicu: it dependsMay 13 23:33
schestowitzhttps://lwn.net/Articles/582242/May 13 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stallman on GCC, LLVM, and copyleft [LWN.net]May 13 23:34
schestowitzhttps://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc/2014-01/msg00247.htmlMay 13 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Richard Stallman - Re: clang vs free softwareMay 13 23:34
bnchsalpine helped me a bit when i was using openrcMay 13 23:34
bnchscopying the init scripts from alpine's codeMay 13 23:34
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4MjAMay 13 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman Calls LLVM A "Terrible Setback" - PhoronixMay 13 23:34
Ariadneicu: LLVM MIR allows for some kinds of optimizations to be done more easily, at the cost of other optimizationsMay 13 23:36
techrights-newsMisguided Security Theatre • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164825May 13 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Misguided Security Theatre | Tux MachinesMay 13 23:36
techrights-newsDebian: New Contributors, Bookworm-Based EasyOS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164826May 13 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: New Contributors, Bookworm-Based EasyOS | Tux MachinesMay 13 23:36
AriadneMIR is easier to write than GIMPLEMay 13 23:36
Ariadnealso, GCC has had the advantage of being around longer, and is still an interesting target for researchers working on new optimization methods, because LLVM is more... corporateMay 13 23:37
Ariadneso for raw performance, GCC is still ahead in a lot of waysMay 13 23:38
Ariadnebut for things like security mitigations, LLVM is much more advancedMay 13 23:38
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techrights-newsKVM: VMX: enable IPI virtualization https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/kvm.git/commit/?h=next&id=694599c8267d862085324bc1f6ef5e8014abc5c0May 13 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kvm/kvm.git - kernel-based virtual machine - kvmMay 13 23:38
mateythe fucking spineless foundation has to follow laws, yesMay 13 23:38
mateybut it doesnt have to like themMay 13 23:39
techrights-newsthunderbolt: Add support for XDomain lane bonding https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/westeri/thunderbolt.git/commit/?h=next&id=8e1de7042596abb7cb277ea751fc13a4c2b65aeaMay 13 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/westeri/thunderbolt.git - Thunderbolt and USB4 development treeMay 13 23:39
mateywhen it starts complaining about having to follow laws, instead of spinelessly and silently complyingMay 13 23:39
mateythen we can say "well what do you want? its the law"May 13 23:39
mateyuntil then its just spinelessnessMay 13 23:39
techrights-newsx86/cpu: Add new VMX feature, Tertiary VM-Execution control https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/kvm.git/commit/?h=next&id=121383d0107ee8a6cd2c75a1a132d7a63f9cb0a0May 13 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kvm/kvm.git - kernel-based virtual machine - kvmMay 13 23:39
mateybut this is a small part of a broader, similar picture going on for yearsMay 13 23:39
mateyits not that they do what they have to doMay 13 23:39
mateythey just. dont. fucking. care. at all.May 13 23:40
mateythey should, they would, they did. they dont.May 13 23:40
mateyone more example changes nothing, its just another confirmation on a mountain of confirmationMay 13 23:40
Ariadnei mean i have lots of skepticism of all of these corporate playersMay 13 23:40
techrights-newsFinally not forcing you to pay for Windows, at long last! https://www.itsfoss.net/beelink-ser-4-4800u-x-new-mini-pc-with-manjaro-pre-installed/May 13 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beelink SER 4 4800U X, new mini-PC with Manjaro pre-installed - itsfoss.netMay 13 23:41
techrights-newsWSL is WINDOWS, it is NOT "Linux" https://www.xda-developers.com/does-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-yoga-gen-7-run-linux/May 13 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Does the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 7 run Linux?May 13 23:42
mateytheo de raadt has gotten shit for using the fact that openbsd is canadian to be lax about export restrictions that dont exist in canada :)May 13 23:42
mateyi think they overplay (or fabricate) (his opponents i mean) any non-complianceMay 13 23:42
mateybut even if they dont...May 13 23:42
mateythats great. perhaps suicidal, but great.May 13 23:42
Ariadneare you implying the FSF should move to canada?May 13 23:43
mateynot at all May 13 23:43
mateyi was hoping it was clear that id settle for their complianceMay 13 23:43
techrights-news"[Free Software]UK’s second “State of [Free Software]” survey” is now live and runs until midnight BST on June 12, 2022." https://www.fosslife.org/take-2022-state-open-survey-openuk openwashing agenda, but focus on Free software insteadMay 13 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Take the 2022 “State of Open” Survey from OpenUKMay 13 23:43
mateyif they even bothered to complain about it while complyingMay 13 23:43
mateybut theyre so fucking neutral nowMay 13 23:43
mateyso conservative, in the sit on your arse and do nothing context of the wordMay 13 23:43
mateywait and seeMay 13 23:43
techrights-news"Chatwoot is an open-source, self-hosted customer engagement suite. Chatwoot lets you view and manage your customer data, communicate with them irrespective of which medium they use, and re-engage them based on their profile." https://medevel.com/chatwoot/May 13 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Chatwoot is an open-source self-hosted custom support systemMay 13 23:43
mateywait for what? for fish to grow legs and walk and talk?May 13 23:44
mateyits pathetic. all they do is wait and seeMay 13 23:44
mateytheyre going to wait and see all the way to bankruptcyMay 13 23:44
icuhttps://venturebeat.com/2022/05/13/how-much-will-it-cost-to-secure-open-source-software-openssf-says-147-9m/May 13 23:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How much will it cost to secure open-source software? OpenSSF says $147.9M | VentureBeatMay 13 23:44
mateywrong question May 13 23:45
schestowitz-TRworse: openbsd compromised its own fundingMay 13 23:45
mateyhow much would it take for windows and apple to GAIN the May 13 23:45
schestowitz-TRby speaking out against warMay 13 23:45
icu147.9M vs 44 billions for twitter LOLMay 13 23:45
schestowitz-TRor militarismMay 13 23:45
matey <schestowitz-TR> worse: openbsd compromised its own funding <- oh bolloxMay 13 23:45
schestowitz-TRwhich probably helped the project on the PR sideMay 13 23:45
mateysame amount fsf took from googleMay 13 23:45
SomeH4x0rI can't access it because clownMay 13 23:45
mateyyes, everyone knows how good their pr isMay 13 23:45
schestowitz-TRthis is DARPAMay 13 23:45
schestowitz-TRnot GulagMay 13 23:45
SomeH4x0rso I guess I won't see what it isMay 13 23:45
mateyif you bothered with historyMay 13 23:45
mateybsd came from unix. May 13 23:45
mateyso the point where thompson worked on bsd himselfMay 13 23:46
Ariadnei think 147.9m is an absurd proposal tbhMay 13 23:46
mateynetbsd came from bsdMay 13 23:46
Ariadnethere should just be no-strings-attached government grants for writing FOSSMay 13 23:46
mateytheo de raadt was a founder of netbsdMay 13 23:46
mateyopenbsd is a direct fork of bsdMay 13 23:46
schestowitz-TRAriadne: maybe they assume all volunteers get paid like ZemlinMay 13 23:46
mateyso openbsd, if you knew historyMay 13 23:46
mateyNEVER CAVED TO DODMay 13 23:46
mateythey INHERITED the dodMay 13 23:46
Ariadneschestowitz-TR: i wish i got paid like zemlinMay 13 23:46
schestowitz-TRso 150 volunteers working for one year...May 13 23:46
schestowitz-TR150 millionMay 13 23:46
mateyfrom the 1970sMay 13 23:46
Ariadneinstead we decided employees would be niceMay 13 23:47
mateyblame the cold war, it was before openbsd existedMay 13 23:47
techrights-newsJulius is a lightweight open-source Speech Recognition Engine https://medevel.com/julius-speech/May 13 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Julius is a lightweight open-source Speech Recognition EngineMay 13 23:47
mateyif any of this was in an honest contextMay 13 23:47
schestowitz-TRI'm also sure that like Mitchell Bankler, Jim Zemlin is sure he's worth every pennyMay 13 23:47
schestowitz-TR*BankerMay 13 23:47
mateyit would be pointed out (again) that theos big anti-military-industrial-complex mouth LOST him fundingMay 13 23:48
mateyand thats such a stallman-like thing to doMay 13 23:48
mateyhes NOT stallmanMay 13 23:48
Ariadnematey: yes i like theo for thisMay 13 23:48
mateyhe would hate the thoughtMay 13 23:48
mateybut you know, integrity is a wonderful thingMay 13 23:48
mateyand de raadt has itMay 13 23:48
mateythe only time i ever hated him, years agoMay 13 23:48
schestowitz-TRtheo earned trust over thatMay 13 23:48
schestowitz-TReven if darpa canned himMay 13 23:48
mateytheo earns trust for a LOT of thingsMay 13 23:49
schestowitz-TRwhich likely made darpa look badMay 13 23:49
mateyhis biggest crime ever was dissing rmsMay 13 23:49
schestowitz-TRand darpa is the "nice" face of the militaryMay 13 23:49
mateyand when you learn the other side of the storyMay 13 23:49
Ariadnematey: "crime"May 13 23:49
schestowitz-TRlike inqtel for ciaMay 13 23:49
mateyhis diss of rms wasnt entirely unfairMay 13 23:49
mateyit was reactionary, but sort of fair.May 13 23:49
AriadneRMS showed up on openbsd-misc crying like a bitchMay 13 23:49
mateywell rms was unfair May 13 23:49
mateyand he has been unfair to bsd ever sinceMay 13 23:49
mateyholding it to a higher standard than May 13 23:49
mateythis leaves people like theo to point out the hypocrisyMay 13 23:50
schestowitz-TRthat was aged agoMay 13 23:50
mateyand thats fair gameMay 13 23:50
Ariadneits because bsd and linux actually shipped useful distributions, while his baby HURD is still vaporwareMay 13 23:50
schestowitz-TRand rms had given him an awardMay 13 23:50
mateyit WAS ages agoMay 13 23:50
schestowitz-TR*agesMay 13 23:50
mateyand its the only thing i ever hated theo de raadt forMay 13 23:50
mateyand when i learned the other side of the story i felt a bit silly for itMay 13 23:50
mateybecause i probably would have learned a lot more about openbsd sooner otherwiseMay 13 23:50
mateyinstead, i was led to it by hyperbolaMay 13 23:50
mateyyou know, that fsf-approved distro.May 13 23:50
mateyhyperbola rekindled my interest in openbsdMay 13 23:51
mateyit pointed the wayMay 13 23:51
mateythats where i got it fromMay 13 23:51
mateyand you know, if hyperbola does nothing else (which seems possible)May 13 23:51
mateythats still somethingMay 13 23:51
techrights-news"Some of you may have noticed, and in fact contacted me about this, that occasionally, Dedoimedo is not available. Specifically, when you try to access the site, you get an SSL certificate warning from your browser." The 'SSL pyramid scheme' has potential for so much censorship, too https://www.dedoimedo.com/index.htmlMay 13 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dedoimedo - A Place to Learn a Lot About a LotMay 13 23:52
mateytechnically hyperbola is not a fork of openbsd but a fork of a forkMay 13 23:52
mateybut really i suppose its bothMay 13 23:52
mateyits a fork of librebsd, which is a fork of openbsdMay 13 23:52
mateylibrebsd is defunctMay 13 23:52
mateyas far as i knowMay 13 23:52
schestowitz-TRlibressl tooMay 13 23:53
schestowitz-TRlack of maintainers this year, iircMay 13 23:53
mateyis it?May 13 23:53
schestowitz-TRcheck the WebMay 13 23:53
schestowitz-TRthere was a blurb about it months agoMay 13 23:53
mateyim more than a little scepticalMay 13 23:53
schestowitz-TRformal blurbMay 13 23:53
mateywhat is openbsd using for ssl thenMay 13 23:53
schestowitz-TRwe put that in Daily LinksMay 13 23:53
schestowitz-TRmaybe it was the mailing listsMay 13 23:54
mateyit sounds like bs to meMay 13 23:54
schestowitz-TRmaybe lwnMay 13 23:54
mateyat best a misunderstandingMay 13 23:54
mateymore likely fudMay 13 23:54
mateyi dont care, i know openbsd will use a sane option for sslMay 13 23:54
schestowitzhttps://lwn.net/Articles/841664/May 13 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LibreSSL languishes on Linux [LWN.net]May 13 23:54
mateybut i doubt theyre just going to let openssl rotMay 13 23:54
schestowitzhttps://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-01-05-libressl-support-discontinued.htmlMay 13 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gentoo.org | LibreSSL support discontinued – Gentoo LinuxMay 13 23:54
mateyi mean libresslMay 13 23:54
schestowitz2021May 13 23:54
schestowitzthis is oldMay 13 23:54
mateyand probably not accurateMay 13 23:54
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/rfd77v/friendship_ended_with_libressl/May 13 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Friendship ended with LibreSSL : linuxmemesMay 13 23:55
schestowitzhttps://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-openssl-support/May 13 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hyperbola.info | Hyperbola - News: End of OpenSSL supportMay 13 23:55
mateyill look at that oneMay 13 23:55
schestowitz2018May 13 23:55
schestowitz"As LibreSSL follows the same goals than our packaging guidelines in stability and security concerns, we have decided to remove OpenSSL and use LibreSSL as our default provider of Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) and Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocols. The decision means that the Milky Way v0.2 will be the last version supporting OpenSSL."May 13 23:55
schestowitz-TRin 2022 there was an updateMay 13 23:55
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/04/25/libressl-3-5-2/May 13 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/04/2022: LibreSSL 3.5.2 and More Twitter Controversies | TechrightsMay 13 23:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/19/tor-browser-11-0-9/May 13 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/3/2022: Tor Browser 11.0.9 and LibreSSL 3.5.1/3.4.3/3.3.6 | TechrightsMay 13 23:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/02/libressl-3-5-0/May 13 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/3/2022: Arti 0.1.0 and LibreSSL 3.5.0 | TechrightsMay 13 23:56
matey in 2022 there was an update <- cant seem to find thisMay 13 23:57
mateyhave barely looked thoughMay 13 23:57
schestowitz-TRme neither, still lookingMay 13 23:57
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mateyi mean openbsd doesnt hinge on libresslMay 13 23:57
schestowitz-TRlet me grep Daily Links filesMay 13 23:57
mateythey will use what they have toMay 13 23:57
mateybut i doubt they would let libressl dieMay 13 23:57
mateythey really dont like subpar shit, and openssl is shit by their standards afaikMay 13 23:58
mateytil grapheneos uses openbsd mallocMay 13 23:58
mateyi dont think openbsd is the most important os that will ever existMay 13 23:58
mateyi think its important right now, maybe for a long timeMay 13 23:59
mateysome stability in a sea of unstable shitMay 13 23:59
mateywhen linux gets rust, theo will laughMay 13 23:59
mateyopenbsd: the forkable operating system that doesnt suckMay 13 23:59
mateyits all relative. gnu/linux just gets easier and easier to compare with as the standards get lowerMay 13 23:59

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