IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, June 14, 2021

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] but not for us

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] the rich pay less tax over time

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[DaemonFC/tr] All of Disney's good stuff is in the distant past.

kingoffrance

yes, good to be more specific (not agreeing or disagreeing there, but nuance is what is lost with the myth)

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] we now have like FIVE brands of listening devices

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] PROGRESS

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[schestowitz/tr] INNOVA~1

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[schestowitz/tr] quite moaning, buy smart thing

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[DaemonFC/tr] It's cheaper to find a VCR and tapes (or DVDs) for your kids. There's all the good stuff you'd get to show them on Disney+ which you'll forget to cancel and will just be another monthly bill.

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] any time moaning is time wastes on potential shopping

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] cons0000merism

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] *Wasted

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Parents used to just swap copied Disney tapes that they made at home with each other at work so they wouldn't have to go out and spend like $30 a pop on them (and that was when $30 was worth what $60 is now!).

Jun 14 00:02

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] There was still a Disney then and they still made money despite all the people renting and copying tapes on the sneakernet. Which was basically a low rent bittorrent of the 1980s and 90s.

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] How did they manage?

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] now we have CIA torture by women

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] torture good

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] it's emancipating people

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] mjg59 was enabling government agencies to waterboard people. (They have to find the people to waterboard first.) Also, kids in cages.

Jun 14 00:04

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] But a woman felt she was hired beneath her skills and gets a shout out on his personal Shitter.

Jun 14 00:04

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] ooh, extreme sports

Jun 14 00:05

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] I remember the Uncle Remus song from Song of the South because Disney put it on one of their soundtrack tapes in the 90s.

techrights-bot

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tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Dad liked to play Disney songs in the car.

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tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] You probably can't find it on Youtube because Disney would just say they owned it and that would be the end of that.

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Jun 14 00:07

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Maybe the only place this title will live on is over pirate sites.

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Jun 14 00:08

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] They're mostly sitting on a bunch of great stuff from the 20th century and some theme parks, and not a hell of a lot else. They make huge budget Star Wars movies each year where you'd figure they would stop once someone pointed out they were making the same exact movies and changing the setting a little.

Jun 14 00:08

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] And they're ruining the theme parks to placate some asswipes like Garrett.

Jun 14 00:09

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] (Who probably don't even go."

Jun 14 00:09

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] But, convincing companies you don't go to, to piss off their actual customers, and ruin themselves, is sort of his specialty.

Jun 14 00:09

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] I think the latest thing at Disney was you can't depict pirates auctioning off a woman.

Jun 14 00:10

techrights-bot

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Jun 14 00:10

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Piracy is being reframed as a good thing.

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] anti-establishment

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] BLM is a pirate group. If they did what they did at sea it would fall under sea piracy.

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] even hollywood lobbies expressed concerns about thata

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] gn

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] I'm not pirating movies. I'm getting reparations for them benefiting from my tax money while they pay none.

Jun 14 00:12

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] "piracy" was always a good thing

Jun 14 00:14

BaronVladimirHar

I doubt any blacks are actually outraged about Song of the South.

Jun 14 00:15

BaronVladimirHar

It was more likely mjg59 getting offended for them.

Jun 14 00:16

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] somebody asked something for me in here? i was taking a nap

Jun 14 00:16

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] it has been a little warm during the day, so i have been sleeping during the day

Jun 14 00:16

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] Ariadne: leah had some issues with registering a NickServ account -- it seems like she ended up registered and identified without her knowledge

Jun 14 00:17

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] i tried to guess how it happened, but i don't know ergo well

BaronVladimirHar

Turn on the air conditioner.

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] lol

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] MinceR: likely the ircv3 REGISTER extension

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] yeah, that definitely sounds like something i was unaware of :>

tr-bridge

[leah/tr] yeah i'm already registered

Jun 14 00:27

tr-bridge

[leah/tr] but i didn't register

Jun 14 00:27

tr-bridge

[leah/tr] so i don't know my password

Jun 14 00:27

tr-bridge

[leah/tr] i think basically as soon as you name to a given nick, that nick becomes registered

Jun 14 00:28

tr-bridge

[leah/tr] ah, maybe.... maybe if i'm already registered, i can simply change my password?

Jun 14 00:28

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] leah: If the client supplied the password then it has to have it.

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tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] testing

Jun 14 00:39

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tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] they're actually back? with the same message no less?

Jun 14 00:45

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] indeed.

Jun 14 00:48

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] they've been doing this to other networks in the intervening time

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tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I think there was a netsplit on freenode?

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tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] Is the bridge okay now?

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Jun 14 01:46

MinceR

there was a netsplit, the bridge seems ok

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tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] I restarted it just in case.

Jun 14 02:05

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Okay, and now I can't see anything in here on Matrix.

Jun 14 02:07

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] This is swell. Thanks to Liberal Chat this whole thing is fucked.

Jun 14 02:07

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: Matrix got netsplitted

Jun 14 02:08

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: And putting sole blame on them is something I strongly disagree with.

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Jun 14 02:40

leah

god, fucking, damn

Jun 14 02:52

leah

today was insane

Jun 14 02:52

leah

i needed to say that, somewhere public

Jun 14 02:52

leah

let's see who was pinging me. this is the last chan i'm checking, before bed

Jun 14 02:53

leah

oh me

Jun 14 02:53

leah

oh my

Jun 14 02:54

leah

great

Jun 14 02:54

leah

good job

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https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/14/ibm_discontinues_ladder_sales/

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AdmFubar

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https://hackaday.com/2021/06/13/sawdust-printer-goes-against-the-grain-by-working-with-wood-waste/

MinceR

good thing i never wanted to buy a ladder from ibm

Jun 14 03:13

AdmFubar

or a small hydraulic lift

Jun 14 03:15

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: Besides, I think we both know that a network such as freenode would've lived through just by being too big to fail.

Jun 14 03:17

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] But it's not easy managing a big network, and instead of making a smooth transition the new staff and rasengan have decided that they want things to go their way.

Jun 14 03:22

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tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] Was it so hard to maintain the status quo for like two months, to familiarise with the network, to overcome challenges and get experience? Instead they almost immediately started messing with things.

Jun 14 03:24

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tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] Libera cannot be blamed for freenode under rasengan shooting itself in foot time and time again making participants justifiably feel unsafe.

Jun 14 03:26

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] And so it will fade into obscurity and techrights will stop having a Matrix presence permanently.

Jun 14 03:29

AdmFubar

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AdmFubar

https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/14/rachid_yazami_the_future_of_ev_batteries/

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tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/how-disney-tried-and-failed-to-remove-song-of-the-south-from-history

Jun 14 05:20

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Wall-E was actually their best Pixar movie.

Jun 14 05:43

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] It didn't pick on anyone by race, it just mostly pointed out that humans are here to spew pollution and trash and more humans to do the same thing until the Earth is an uninhabitable rock.

Jun 14 05:43

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Maybe even prophetic. SOME might get to leave and start a colony, if they pay Elon enough.

Jun 14 05:44

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Jun 14 05:59

gustaf

XRevan86: I think it's importatn to note that "IRC" hsa many subcultures, and Freenode was one. It was more stable, more mature etc etc. Sounds like Lee was more used to the more anarchic forms of IRC

Jun 14 06:11

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/ is the last bit of reporting i intend to do on this irc shit

Jun 14 06:16

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] as far as i’m concerned freenode is done as for its original purpose

Jun 14 06:17

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] you can’t back away from kicking the FSF off the network

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tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] projects should have self hosted from the start

Jun 14 06:20

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] had projects hosted their own IRC environments this would never have happened

Jun 14 06:20

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Mozilla did and then they shut it down to move to Matrix.org, where their users can be banned easily and for no reason.

Jun 14 06:22

phanes

nah this still would have been an inevitability

Jun 14 06:24

phanes

the core problem is crossover authority

Jun 14 06:24

phanes

people with what's called a high "betweenness centrality"

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phanes

if you don't take the narcissist and ego problems in your communities seriously you will always have power struggles

phanes

and its never good for the users

phanes

sure you guys deal with non-authorities with those problems sometimes but its the people in charge that you don't hold accountable that are behind the problems that come up there

phanes

you've all got to be willing to take hits and losses to remove those kinds of people

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tr-bridge

[job/tr] phanes: I thought you support the FSF?

phanes

i do support the FSF

tr-bridge

[job/tr] It seems you just supported RMS in order to gain glory to yourself

phanes

well that's a shitty thing to say to someone

Jun 14 06:27

phanes

RMS has his flaws, but the GPL is the reason we don't have to swipe our credit cards to log into our PC's. It is foundational to just about everything we know and love.

Jun 14 06:28

phanes

What I'd like to see is him set up some kind of assurance of perepetuity of the GPL that does not depend on him so he can retire.

Jun 14 06:28

phanes

That way if he gets hit by a bus or something we don't have to get facebook's approval to continue development

Jun 14 06:29

phanes

And my issue with the anti-RMS campaign was more or less surrounding the nature of the campaign itself -- its methods, its modes of operation, the deliberate lying and smearing of someone's reputation in a formula that has been used too many times to not now result in serious consequences for the people who execute it.

Jun 14 06:30

phanes

It is a vulnerability in western society that is being repeatedly exploited at great harm.

Jun 14 06:33

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phanes

So much so that it is being weaponized for corporate interest.

phanes

You need to stop these people and you need to create social structures that prevent them from hurting people anymore.

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phanes

If someone were to outline a plan that crosses foss projects to stop this type of thing that was credible and that I believed I could rely on I would immediately resign.

phanes

Open challenge. Mull it over.

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Jun 14 06:43

schestowitz

chaotic night for IRC

Jun 14 06:45

schestowitz

even the cron job could not generate things and make bulletins etc.

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schestowitz

[01:43] <XRevan86> > (23:13:19) Joanna: I just got banned from freenode for using IRCCloud..

schestowitz

[01:43] <XRevan86> CrystalMath: cool stuff in ##sqlite %)

schestowitz

Lost in the netsplit, am comparing...

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] OK, I think only those two lined did not make it across the bridge, I have checked all the rest

Jun 14 06:56

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] netsplit'ed logs compared, twice over even. I had to rerun some jobs and do lots of things manually because of all this turbulence.... took nearly half an hour

Jun 14 07:04

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] uploading the new ipfs index now

Jun 14 07:04

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Updated http://techrights.org/ipfs/bulletins.html

Jun 14 07:10

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Over a megabyte of logs yesterday http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130621.html

Jun 14 07:11

schestowitz

ipfs working again, but some IRC messages were missed. hopefully all back to normal tonight/next run

Jun 14 07:14

gustaf

phanes: I spent 17 years on Freenode without having to worry that what I said or did in a channel (or elsehwere) would bring staff down on me, or that channel

Jun 14 07:20

gustaf

that's the value Freenode provided: a drama free place to discuss free software

schestowitz

I know what you mean

schestowitz

I lost so many hours this past month

schestowitz

I just want to cover patent things

schestowitz

not mess around with bots and things and check IRC things

gustaf

yeah, I'm a user, not someone in a role of responsibility, and it's still been stressful

Jun 14 07:22

gustaf

if, also, entertaining in a weird way

Jun 14 07:22

gustaf

but I feel sorry for those who just want ot manage communities

Jun 14 07:22

schestowitz

well, you say entertaining

schestowitz

because you are not a direct stakeholder

schestowitz

only indirect

gustaf

phanes: ys

gustaf

dang

schestowitz

for me, personally, TONS of time down the drain

schestowitz

and for some free software project lost time coding

gustaf

schestowitz: I understand, and I sympathize

schestowitz

for me also publishing of articles

schestowitz

I am starting to write at the moment

gustaf

I don't try to stir shit for the sake of more drama

schestowitz

I spent the past 60 minutes just doing damage control from this overnight issue

schestowitz

but like I said before, self-hosting IRC was an ambition since last year

schestowitz

before all the drama

schestowitz

inc. freenode staff signing an RMS hate letter

activelow

ironically the new jurisdiction chosen in sweden could prevent such a defamation campaign

gustaf

schestowitz: that "drama" had zero impact on me or the channels I frequented at Freenode

schestowitz

not sure aboyt that

gustaf

this HN comment says it best https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27497168

schestowitz

the issue was not defamation

gustaf

``I don't think the people leaving are doing so because of who is in charge (modulo random channel seizures). They're leaving because because they don't want to worry about who is in charge.''

activelow

since in sweden spreading defamation with the intend to harm a person, his family and busines is illegal, even if based on facts

schestowitz

the issue was a control-related dispute

gustaf

activelow: what case is this?

schestowitz

hmmm... why is the links bot not working?

Jun 14 07:28

schestowitz

another thing to investigate

Jun 14 07:28

activelow

gustaf: i didn't follow the RMS drama since i am not interested in gossip. i had only noticed swedish legislation which applied with the newly founded network would sanction such a defamation campaign

Jun 14 07:28

gustaf

I;m a Swede and I don't agree with that assessment

Jun 14 07:32

gustaf

defamation is hard to prove in Sweden

Jun 14 07:33

gustaf

especially against a public figure like RMS

Jun 14 07:33

gustaf

anyway, the status of an IRC network as a "publication" in Swedish law is nebulous

Jun 14 07:33

*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz

Jun 14 07:34

gustaf

i have a really hard time imagining how the status of the the Libera "foundation" as an "ideell förening" could in any way facilitate any sort of defamation campaign against anyone

Jun 14 07:34

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Jun 14 07:34

schestowitz

test http://example.org

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-example.org | Example Domain

schestowitz

OK, I think MinceR put rules in place

gustaf

it's just a legal person holding the rights to the name etc

schestowitz

anyway, I could use a break from this drama... doing an article about Hungary ATM

gustaf

afk

Jun 14 07:36

schestowitz

MinceR: http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/

Jun 14 07:51

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Jun 14 07:51

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] "I got banned from #slackware in like 5 minutes or something. I pleaded for forgiveness, in the way redolent of a middle schooler. And eventually, I got unbanned and stuck around for a while. That was my first experience with IRC."

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | the end of freenode – Ariadne's Space

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] so ariadne is younger than I assumed

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I think I was 13 or 14 when I accessed dalnet

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] with a bunch of idiots doing floods and abuse every now and then

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] and with colour support

gustaf

I only started using IRC in my early 30s

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] "For a few years, all was well, until the end of July 2002, when DALnet started being the target of Distributed Denial of Service attacks. We would of course, later find out that these attacks were at the request of Jason Michael Downey (Nessun), who had just launched a competing IRC network called Rizon."

gustaf

and I understand Freenode was much calmer than early IRC

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I may need to rewrite my code to be more robust to IRC downtimes

Jun 14 08:06

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] as happened last night in freenode

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: gm

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] nice blog post

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] am reading it rn

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/8-Ficsor-Lecture-2010.ppt

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] (ppt warning)

Jun 14 08:08

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] "In early 2006, lilo launched his Spinhome project. Spinhome was a fundraising effort so that lilo could get a mobile home to replace the double-wide trailer he had been living in. Some people saw him trying to fundraise while being the owner of freenode as a conflict of interest, which lead to a falling out with a lot of staffers, projects, etc. OFTC went from being a small n <clipped message>

Jun 14 08:09

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] etwork to a much larger network during this time."

Jun 14 08:09

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] didn't know OFTC was that old

Jun 14 08:09

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I think our objective should be to make more IRCd installs

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] then make better ways to connect them

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] a sort of "fediverse" of IRC

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] scrollback is another challenge

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] because of the relay nature

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] nntp doesn't have that issue either

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] we now have http://techrights.org/irc

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] so if people drop offline for whatever reason they can catch up with what was missed

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] "

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Self-hosting is really what makes IRC great: you can run your own server for your community and not be beholden to anyone else. As far as IRC goes, that’s the future I feel motivated to build.

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] This concludes my coverage of the freenode meltdown. I hope people enjoyed it and also understand why freenode was important to me: without lilo‘s decision to take a chance on a dumbfuck kid like myself, I wouldn’t have ever really gotten as deeply involved in FOSS as I have, so to see what has happened has left me heartbroken.

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] "

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] yes, self-hosting is the way forward

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] servers are very powerful now compared to ircd

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] so even a little vps or sbc can do

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Jun 14 08:22

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Jun 14 09:08

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] i had a look at matrix and noticed that rooms are decentralized. That seems pretty strange to me. I would think rooms would be hosted on servers. Because they are decentralized they have to follow a particular moderation algorithm that all servers agree on

Jun 14 09:11

techrights-bot

I don't want to perpetuate any #irc wars (it's already chaotic enough as it is!). If you heard about the #freenode #fsf thing, here's the raw stuff for you to decide based upon: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/fsf-channel-canceled.txt and http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/freenode-takes-control-of-fsf-channel.txt

Jun 14 09:11

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] otherwise they will desync

Jun 14 09:11

techrights-bot

The last thing I want to do is any further article/video about IRC. If #irc calms down as a whole, I'll be able to investigate and write about important things like #swpats and #freesw instead. That's the goal. The past month has been SUPER-UNPRODUCTIVE.

Jun 14 09:12

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] immibis: I am not so familiar with matrix, but I know they ban many rooms and people

Jun 14 09:13

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] and when I say "they" I don't even know who I refer to

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] maybe each project/org needs to have its own room/channel

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] not project.slack dot com

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] not discord whatever they call 'channels'

activelow

i am surprised the freenode drama with prince Lee involved caused so much drama, meanwhile yet another Mr. Lee of Korean telecom was installed as head of ITU-T (in 2015 already!)

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] not org at irc.IRCgiant.org/net.com

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Lee is a very common name there

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Lee, Park, Kim...

activelow

nonetheless

activelow

Korean Telecom Mr. Lee head of ITU-T

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] like Nguyen in Vietnam area

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] iirc, about 60% of the population

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I once even dated a Nguyen

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Lee is also a common surname here in the UK

activelow

this one was remarkable too: https://www.reuters.com/technology/huawei-founder-urges-software-push-counter-us-sanctions-2021-05-24/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE Huawei founder urges shift to software to counter U.S. sanctions | Reuters

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] that makes it hard to 'google'

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] too many Lees and Nguyens

gustaf

schestowitz: the reason people / orgs congregate to centralized services is discoverability

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I don't think Andrew Lee is incompetent

gustaf

super-easy to find another subreddit

activelow

which one schestowitz ?

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] the problem is, he can only get very incompetent people to work for him now

activelow

Mr. Lee of Freenode or Mr. Lee of Telecom head of ITU-T?

gustaf

onboarding on IRC is different, especially when it comes to registering to Nickserv etc

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] discoverability is overrated

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] it's "discoverability" until the service goes offline

gustaf

that's an opinion, sure

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] for business reasons, censorship, sanctions

gustaf

most people just want to connect and/or make money

activelow

the telecom Mr. Lee was leading research about "IPTV", which i question was relevant qualification for ITU-T

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] "lee" is a super common name

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] there must be many millions in china with that name

gustaf

the risk assessment that what you say can get you banned is far from people's minds

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] aside from US/UK/Canada and Korea

gustaf

it certainly was for me, on Freenode...

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Andrew is also a common name

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] there are thousands of people called Andrew Lee in the UK I reckon

activelow

yet this too sheds some light on the cowardice and hypocrisy of USA business entities, such as Netflix who generate bubble cash of billions - with IPTV which is the business of Mr. Lee

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] some would be famous

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] gustaf: because people assume about themselves that they are good and benign

gustaf

I guess being Crown Prince is a distinguishing factor then :D

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] it's a made up title

activelow

do you have any idea what it means if Korean Telecom installed Mr. Lee as head of ITU-T???

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activelow

ITU-T is by far the oldest international unition nations institutions, and probably the most important one too

gustaf

sure but the title is "unique"

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] There might be like a million Koreans called Lee

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] or hundreds of thousands

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] it's meaningless

gustaf

afk for now

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] that title is associated with a murderous Saudi

activelow

united nations, in the hands of Korean Telecom

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] SK is good at Internet

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] they have the world's fastest

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] schestowitz: matrix is federated

activelow

schestowitz: "Internet" is NOT telco protocol domain

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] it is trying to be the federated IRC that you want

activelow

telco operates backbone with protocols rarely heard of

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] (but over HTTP because ??)

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] bloat

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] still it is a thing that exists and that you could interoperate with instead of reinventing

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] because it has a significant user base

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] some people think it's innovation to make everything as a web page

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] even if one day the web will go away

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] like flash did

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] after 20+ years

activelow

some people think "IPTV" is innovative, hance Mr. Lee is head of ITU-T

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] IPTV is not news

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] IPTV is innovative if you are running a network

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] it's just TV done over IP :-)

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] TCP/IP

activelow

*hence

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] IPTV allows you to use the same cable for TV and Internet without weird fixed-function analog electronics

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] i doubt it uses TCP

activelow

i know what it is, and it is crap, technological crap

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] activelow: what is your suggestion for delivering TV and Internet over the same cable?

activelow

which exists since some corrupt corporation can generate cash with it, hundreds of billions

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] TV cable stuff could already do "on demand"

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] TV channels are obsolete anyway

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] schestowitz: probably with something like IPTV

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I only hear about several of them shutting down

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] lack of budget, too small an audience, no advertisers

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] and people love skipping ads

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] TV cannot do that

activelow

anyway, since yesterday G7 are meeting, when discussing relations with China/Korea they disconnected internet, due to sensivitivy of the matters at hand

activelow

doesn't surprise me given the fact head of ITU-T (LeeCom) operates it

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] people can take note and post later

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] or record

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] activelow: what is your suggestion for delivering TV and Internet over the same cable?

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] do we even need TV anymore?

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] i stopped watching TV over 20 years ago

activelow

immibis: IPTV is unicast on-demand streaming via TCP(SCTP)/IP -> which is technical crap and doesn't require replacement

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] since then I've been hearing of more who do the same

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] us not watching TV is one reason there's so much conspiracy nonsense, oddly enough

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] not really

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] TV also spreads BS

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] at least when everyone watched the same mostly-factual news every night it kept us all on a common grounding

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] the issue is not "the Internet"

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] the Internet has good and bad

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] social control media = bad

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] there is no covid-doesn't-exist channel

activelow

i didn't say TV, i referred to IPTV which Mr. LeeCom had expertise to lead ITU-T

activelow

which is ridiculous

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] is there any connection to Andrew Lee?

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] if not, how is this relevant?

activelow

YES

activelow

i am saying LeeNode is a child's playground in comparison to ITU-T and international telco business, and this https://www.reuters.com/technology/huawei-founder-urges-software-push-counter-us-sanctions-2021-05-24/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE Huawei founder urges shift to software to counter U.S. sanctions | Reuters

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] [09:17] <activelow/fn> Mr. Lee of Freenode or Mr. Lee of Telecom head of ITU-T?

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] no connection afaik

activelow

schestowitz: you may self-host IRC service, you cannot operate your own telco backbone

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I know

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] that's a known limitation I always speak aboyt

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] but if UK ISPs stop disconnecting people for political reasons, it would entail HUGE blowback

activelow

imagine if LeeCom similar to LeeNode begins to hijack and disconnect?

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] *start

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] you call it LeeNode but you use it right now

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] activelow: I wish there were more community ISPs, I actually researched starting one but then some company said they'd pay me 3 times the money to move halfway across the world

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] although it "LeeNode" bothered you, then you would connect to this channel over irc.techrights.org

activelow

I wished Telco had not been privatized

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Manchester (here) had efforts at local meshes around 2004

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] of course governments hate that

activelow

btw. KabelDeutschland too was "sold", as was entire German Telecom "sold"

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] they want to be in control and see everything

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] of course nobody can operate a *backbone* without running thousands of km of fiber, but they don't have to be the same companies that own your home connection

activelow

into the hands of i wouldn't want to namecall

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] one of our clients at work deals with monitoring "assets" like backbones

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] and those are massive projects

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] schestowitz: did they try to comply with regulations? i know in NZ there are a couple of requirements like you have to register and you have to have a system to let the police wiretap if they have a warrant. The rest of the law is just boring paperwork about dispute resolution

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] you will never have a community laying underwater cables

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] and maintaining them with submarines and stuff

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] tough reality

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] things like submarine cables are literally why corporations were invented

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] millions of people chip in a little bit of money to get something huge done

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] (or thousands, or hundreds)

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] and then those people are the shareholders

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] running a local mesh is fine, but for INTERNATIONAL operations you need the underwater cables or satellite (if the community can crowdfound rockets and stuff to launch satellites)

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[schestowitz/tr] and even then it would rely on agencies that work to prevent collisions

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[immibis/tr] has anyone been censored by a backbone in a stable western democracy?

activelow

ITU-T business covers more than cabling, it is an entire separate protocol stack

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[schestowitz/tr] not yet

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[schestowitz/tr] but Russia did some things

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[schestowitz/tr] like cutting off nations

activelow

an international/intercontinental SYNCHRONOUS circuit switched network

activelow

which is why an expert in IPTV becoming head of ITU-T is ridiculous

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[schestowitz/tr] anyway, you are talking about the lowest common denominator here

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[schestowitz/tr] like diverting software freedom debates to whether you can manufacture chips at home

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[immibis/tr] i wouldn't worry about russia cutting off nations yet. get the easy things first. you will never stop russia arresting the people who try to connect to whatever country

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[immibis/tr] without replacing russia with a democracy

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[immibis/tr] unless you are in russia and capable of organizing a million people to protest you cannot do that

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[immibis/tr] ("protest" may or may not include "behead Mr Putin")

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"The JDBC project is proud to announce the latest version 42.2.21." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-jdbc-42221-released-2238/ #PostgreSQL #JDBC

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activelow

why distract to russia? it is Netflix among other corrupt entities in USA who cash in billions, and agitate for sanctions in parallel

activelow

Netflix generates cash, and US administration agitates for sanctions against LeeCorp???

techrights-bot

Claudio Cambra: First week of Google Summer of Code 2021 https://claudiocambra.com/2021/06/14/first-week-of-google-summer-of-code-2021/ #kde #gsoc #gulag #alphabet

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[immibis/tr] you're gonna reeee about a megacorp and of all the megacorps, you chose frickin *netflix* to reeee against?

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[immibis/tr] how about microsoft or blackrock or citadel capital or disney?

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[schestowitz/tr] I am not sure they're even truly proftable

activelow

Netflix because King Lee of ITU-T was researching IPTV

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[schestowitz/tr] just a DRM empire

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[schestowitz/tr] clogging up networks

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[immibis/tr] Netflix is a puppet of Disney, they have to be or else they don't get to show any movies.

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[immibis/tr] Netflix is oppressed by copyright just like you are

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[immibis/tr] disney says lick our boots or don't exist and they have to do it

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[schestowitz/tr] I feel bad for people who rely on DRMflix

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[schestowitz/tr] it's awful

activelow

i am not oppressed by copyright, in fact i comply with it and welcome it

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[schestowitz/tr] and they get to keep nothing they pay for

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[schestowitz/tr] used and discarded

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[immibis/tr] disney says you have to have shitty DRM or don't exist, and they have to do it

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[immibis/tr] netflix is not the problem here

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[immibis/tr] DRM is imposed by copyright holders

activelow

anyway, it is remarkable that G7 meeting had to disconnect internet connections during their talks... uhum (LeeCom in control secretly monitoring/spying?)

techrights-bot

The term "change management" has become another management buzzword. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/change-management-4-ways-cios-can-lead

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 ways CIOs can lead change management now | The Enterprisers Project

activelow

and there is hundreds of billions of cash at stack, international stock exchange all that

activelow

*stake

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[Ariadne/tr] matrix's moderation features are really bad

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[Ariadne/tr] you can't ban specific homeservers from joining your rooms outright

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"Sachin is a former software developer at Google and Microsoft, and now" writes for #ibm #redhat x-| https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/it-career-how-speed-up-career-path

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6 hours ago: "So when I was at IBM, Golden Circle was the top award and you could take someone with you. 100% club was just you and some peers, and #IBM would send you somewhere for 3 nights." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#replies

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[schestowitz/tr] too much federation can also be ban

Jun 14 09:47

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[immibis/tr] Ariadne: and that is probably caused by the decentralized nature of rooms, right? If rooms were hosted on servers, the servers could be modified to change how the rooms work, but with decentralized rooms they all have to agree

Jun 14 09:47

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[schestowitz/tr] federation needs to come in moderation, as in moderate level

Jun 14 09:47

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[schestowitz/tr] you don't invite biker gangs to your christening parties

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[schestowitz/tr] you don't want MAGA hat wearers in Biden inauguration

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[schestowitz/tr] social control media is based on false assumptions

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[schestowitz/tr] it's pooling together people who really ought not bother with one another

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[schestowitz/tr] and this only contributes to polarity, not dialogue

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[immibis/tr] echo chambers also contribute to polarity

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[schestowitz/tr] with bbs, irc etc. you limit who speaks to whom and sees what

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[schestowitz/tr] same in newsgroups, email/mailing lists

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[schestowitz/tr] otherwise you end up shouting down anti-vaxers in linux kernel mailing lists (lkml)

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[Ariadne/tr] immibis: *@homeserver.tld bans could be included in the ACL

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[schestowitz/tr] immibis: the networks aren't designed to bridge

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[Ariadne/tr] but i guess that would require another room version

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[schestowitz/tr] it's not profitable

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[schestowitz/tr] the hashtags are designed to provoke and sell ads by increasing 'screen time'

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[Ariadne/tr] (they are in ophion)

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[schestowitz/tr] we need to accept that some people do need "Space"

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[schestowitz/tr] to keep on topics and not fight all the time

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[immibis/tr] schestowitz: if you don't confront the anti-vaxxers they grow.

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[schestowitz/tr] even fediverse became full of shit people

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[immibis/tr] until 60% of the population is anti-vax and they vote to make vax illegal

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[schestowitz/tr] with their disgusting instances

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[schestowitz/tr] even people on the "Right" can't stand it

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[schestowitz/tr] and limit which instances they federate with

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[immibis/tr] people on the right could never stand it. The right always had the biggest echo chambers and censorship

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[schestowitz/tr] anti-vaxxers are few

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[schestowitz/tr] but people are painted with a broad brush

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[schestowitz/tr] and then they start labeling people who reject just one product with that same brush

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[schestowitz/tr] you need to understand Internet misinformation

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[schestowitz/tr] and how to combat it, usually by educating people

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[schestowitz/tr] critical thinking

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[schestowitz/tr] that's not taught anymore, in the US at least

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[schestowitz/tr] they have time to teach bible

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[schestowitz/tr] (fiction)

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[schestowitz/tr] but no lessons on critical and sceptical thinking

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[immibis/tr] you are saying to just cut ourselves off from the non-critical-thinkers. That is not an effective way to teach them critical thinking

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[schestowitz/tr] Twitter is a boatload of nuts

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[schestowitz/tr] no, I think they thrive in bad sites

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[Ariadne/tr] immibis: is it really my job to educate people with bad faith arguments on critical thinking, though?

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[immibis/tr] it is everyone's job. Otherwise they flourish

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[schestowitz/tr] that are good for people looking to spread looney stuff

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[Ariadne/tr] true

activelow

for CV19 alone several dozens of vaccines exist, iirc 5 of them were certified... how many vax shots you want each year?

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[immibis/tr] too bad it doesn't actually work

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[schestowitz/tr] like @realDonaldTrimp

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[immibis/tr] teaching critical thinking that is. Not vaccines. Vaccines work.

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[schestowitz/tr] Nigeria did something courageous

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[schestowitz/tr] they just cut off that shit

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[schestowitz/tr] they need to do the same to FB

activelow

furthermore the recommended vaccine as precaution was pneumococces, the shot Queen Merkel received March 2020 already

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[schestowitz/tr] in Nigeria's case, it's about control of the media

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[schestowitz/tr] because a foreign for-profit corporation meddled in their politics

Jun 14 09:56

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[schestowitz/tr] nigeria needs its own platforms

Jun 14 09:56

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #DataSwamp ☞ How to use Tor only for onion addresses in a web browser https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-06-12-tor-web-browser-onion.html

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● NEWS ● #JulienTinnes ☞ A few thoughts on Fuchsia security https://blog.cr0.org/2021/06/a-few-thoughts-on-fuchsia-security.html

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[schestowitz/tr] nigeria can then ban #bokoharam or whatever

Jun 14 09:58

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[schestowitz/tr] if they're designated as terror group

Jun 14 09:58

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[schestowitz/tr] not ask some foreign company to do that

Jun 14 09:58

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[schestowitz/tr] but Nigeria is not big technologically

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[schestowitz/tr] so a lot gets outsourced

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[schestowitz/tr] they have Sahara Reporter

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[schestowitz/tr] and some blogs

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[schestowitz/tr] but no big tech companies

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #G7 agrees to fight forced labor, ransomware, corruption https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558182-g-7-agrees-to-fight-forced-labor-ransomware-corruption

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Like the previous, one #Microsoft #Windows TCO and #ProprietarySoftware ☞ US, Russia Spar on Cyberattacks Ahead of Biden-Putin Summit https://www.voanews.com/europe/us-russia-spar-cyberattacks-ahead-biden-putin-summit

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● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #VW says data breach at vendor impacted 3.3 million people in North America https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/vw-says-data-breach-at-vendor-impacted-3-3-million-people-in-north-america/83453239

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[immibis/tr] schestowitz is now recommending removing free speech?

Jun 14 10:04

techrights-bot

#helsinkitimes misusing words like "pirates" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/19389-2-9-million-pirates-in-the-nordics.html can we substitue the word "politician" with "rapist"? Or "cannibal"?

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Jun 14 10:04

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[schestowitz/tr] immibis: of terror groups that behead people, yes

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[schestowitz/tr] they violate laws

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[schestowitz/tr] they should not only be censored

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[schestowitz/tr] but tracked, detained, prosecuted

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[schestowitz/tr] failing that, kill them (if capture is not possible, like in Boko Haram's case)

Jun 14 10:06

techrights-bot

#overpopulation http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/overpopulation RMS chastised for bring up an issue he deems possibly more urgent than #freesw http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/

Jun 14 10:09

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sf-encyclopedia.com | Themes : Overpopulation : SFE : Science Fiction Encyclopedia

Jun 14 10:09

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conversation With Richard Stallman in Brazil, May 31st 2021 | Techrights

Jun 14 10:09

techrights-bot

Latest #dilbert https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-06-13

Jun 14 10:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Non Disclosure Denied - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-06-13 | Dilbert by Scott Adams

Jun 14 10:10

techrights-bot

iophk: lots of #microsoft spam leading up to the vista n+1 release in a few weeks

Jun 14 10:11

techrights-bot

#google #europe aka #fsfe ... useful when it comes to #privacy https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106403531816434909 they need to stop calling themselves "FSFE" http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "This? Oh, it’s just the president of the FSFE (wh…" - Aral’s Mastodon

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisation’s Name) | Techrights

techrights-bot

"Hi there! As a #blind screen reader user, I would really appreciate it if you'd take the time to #captionyourimages as it would really help with #accessibility " https://dragonscave.space/@Superfreq/106389969433136712

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dragonscave.space | Superfreq: "@pixelfed@mastodon.social Hi there! As a #blind …" - The Dragon's Cave

techrights-bot

"It's been eight years since Aaron Swartz took his own life. Aaron had been charged with 13 felonies under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) for violating the terms of service on the JSTOR database of scholarly articles." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/106353191199525711

Jun 14 10:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "It's been eight years since Aaron Swartz took his…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré

Jun 14 10:17

techrights-bot

The #geminiProtocol capsule of #techrights is even more blind people-friendly than the Web site. And AFAIK, that Web site is already very screen readers-friendly. Don't ever think like, "who cares!!!! There's so few of them anyway..."

Jun 14 10:19

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] bbiab, exercise

Jun 14 10:19

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[immibis/tr] i thought techrights was a free speech thing

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Suffice to say (in 2021 it should be obvious), you cannot judge a distro's popularity or userbase just based on number of downloads. Nowadays some companies download it once, then deploy it to thousands of machines or millions of devices, then sell those devices.

Jun 14 10:55

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[schestowitz/tr] immibis: not if you are Boko Haram

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[schestowitz/tr] then it's good they speak out

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[schestowitz/tr] so they can be detected, tracked, arrested

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[schestowitz/tr] death threats as a similar thing

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[immibis/tr] so free speech only for the people i like

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[immibis/tr] you know who else only wants free speech for people they like? just about everyone. boko haram probably wishes you didn't have free speech

Jun 14 10:57

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[schestowitz/tr] boko haram is a violent terror group

Jun 14 10:57

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[schestowitz/tr] they don't care about free speech

Jun 14 10:57

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #Stuff #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Police tight-lipped on tools used to scan #socialcontrolmedia activity https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/300332547/police-tightlipped-on-tools-used-to-scan-social-media-activity

Jun 14 11:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.stuff.co.nz | Police tight-lipped on tools used to scan social media activity | Stuff.co.nz

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● NEWS ● #NBC #Transparency ☞ ProPublica's report on tax inequality could hurt Biden's push to make the system better https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/propublica-s-report-tax-inequality-could-hurt-biden-s-push-ncna1270537

Jun 14 11:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Leslie Book: ProPublica's report on tax inequality could hurt Biden's push to make the system better

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● NEWS ● #TheEconomist #Misinformation #Disinformation ☞ #China says it will be a “museum power” by 2035 https://www.economist.com/china/2021/06/12/china-says-it-will-be-a-museum-power-by-2035

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● NEWS ● #Quillette #Censorship ☞ Why Is the Society for American Archaeology Promoting Indigenous Creationism? https://quillette.com/2021/06/13/why-is-the-society-for-american-archaeology-promoting-indigenous-creationism/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Is the Society for American Archaeology Promoting Indigenous Creationism? – Quillette

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● NEWS ● #TheHindu #Censorship ☞ Censorship by noise https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/Readers-Editor/censorship-by-noise/article34805755.ece

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[immibis/tr] schestowitz: they want themselves to have free speech, and other people not to, presumably

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[schestowitz/tr] immibis: look up what Boko Haram is

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[schestowitz/tr] I think you might think you know but do not know

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[schestowitz/tr] since the context here was Nigeria

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[Ariadne/tr] techrights isn't really a "free speech" zone

Jun 14 11:58

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[immibis/tr] schestowitz: ok but they still want themselves to have free speech. (if you're a member but you say speech they don't approve of, you're no longer a member)

Jun 14 12:00

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[immibis/tr] everyone wants themselves to have free speech and their enemies to not

Jun 14 12:00

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● NEWS ● #VOANews #PressFreedom ☞ ‘Highly Offensive’ Gag Orders in Media Subpoena Cases, Lawyer Says https://www.voanews.com/press-freedom/highly-offensive-gag-orders-media-subpoena-cases-lawyer-says

Jun 14 12:06

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | ‘Highly Offensive’ Gag Orders in Media Subpoena Cases, Lawyer Says | Voice of America - English

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● NEWS ● #Gannett #CivilRights ☞ Trial reveals federal agents falsely accused a UT professor born in #China of spying https://eu.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/14/federal-agents-falsely-accused-university-of-tennessee-professor-spying-china/7649378002/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knoxnews.com | Federal agents falsely accused UT professor of spying for China

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[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: the question was, can terror groups be treated as a non-issue for platforms

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[schestowitz/tr] and my answer is, no

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[schestowitz/tr] because we have laws against that, for starters...

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[schestowitz/tr] irrespective of our opinions

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[schestowitz/tr] and I most support >those< laws

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[schestowitz/tr] recruiting people to kill people is a problem

Jun 14 12:14

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[schestowitz/tr] I don't object to laws that objectively can save lives

Jun 14 12:14

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[schestowitz/tr] "I WILL KILL YOU" isn't protected by "free speech"

Jun 14 12:14

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[schestowitz/tr] or "looking for assassin"

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activelow

it needs to be distinguished what is referred to with "platform" 1) carrier network (telco) 2) ISP access line 3) service providers (IRC)

Jun 14 12:22

activelow

then who and what is acted upon such as surveillance at the source (tapping individual computers) or monitoring the network infra or monitoring services etc

Jun 14 12:23

activelow

and all this has nasty political, legal and technical implications

Jun 14 12:24

activelow

often politicians seek MASS surveillance while individual surveillance is indicated

Jun 14 12:25

activelow

btw. my nonsense talk wasn't bridged/forwarded correctly to the other IRC service provider

Jun 14 12:27

techrights-bot

Just recorded a video about #epo #corruption and #hungary ... background: http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/mihaly-ficsor-past/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/13/epo-in-budapest/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 4: Mihály Ficsor, the EPO’s Hungarian “Fixer” | Techrights

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[immibis/tr] schestowitz: what about "everyone should have guns so they can kill each other more easily"?

Jun 14 12:38

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[XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: The bridge in ##sqlite is shot down, the op no longer wants it.

Jun 14 12:38

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[immibis/tr] or what about "free guns at my house"?

Jun 14 12:38

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[immibis/tr] has CrystalMath informed freenode staff that #techrights is illegally leaving freenode?

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[XRevan86/tr] immibis: It's not leaving freenode though. It maintains a double presence.

Jun 14 12:42

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[XRevan86/tr] Even by the new rules that should be fine.

Jun 14 12:42

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[immibis/tr] but users are told they can move to this network. that is illegal activity on freenode

Jun 14 12:42

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[immibis/tr] XRevan86: btw did you see the new new rules? The new new rules are "we can ban you for any reason"

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[XRevan86/tr] immibis: 🤔

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[XRevan86/tr] immibis: At least freenode doesn't have a CoC!

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[immibis/tr] it does have a coc

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[XRevan86/tr] immibis: priorities :)

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[immibis/tr] it's just labelled "terms of service" instead and it's even broader than most leftist cocs. https://freenode.net/policies

Jun 14 12:44

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The Policies - freenode

Jun 14 12:44

*tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] sees fruitless activity here and will bow down to focus on more important things, making 2 articles about 2 new videos

Jun 14 12:44

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[XRevan86/tr] immibis: I know, I'm intentionally using the term in a narrower biased way.

Jun 14 12:46

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The way things are going, this month there will be almost a quarter million page requests over gemini:// in #techrights

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● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #wikileaks ☞ World's Most Powerful Imprison Julian #Assange for His Virtues—Not His Vices https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/06/13/worlds-most-powerful-imprison-julian-assange-his-virtues-not-his-vices

Jun 14 12:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | World's Most Powerful Imprison Julian Assange for His Virtues—Not His Vices | Chris Hedges

Jun 14 12:57

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techrights-ipfs

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Jun 14 13:21

leah

tr-bridge

[leah/tr] .

leah

was just testing something. ignore me

leah

keep calm and carry on

*leah wanted to see which directions the bot could go in

Jun 14 13:25

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] schestowitz: at some point, i would like to move techrights into a different /24 so that i can return the 23.161.112.0/24 to ARIN (and some others) in exchange for a contiguous /22

Jun 14 13:25

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] sides like a mere DNS change

Jun 14 13:26

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] afaik, we have 3 ip addresses currently exc. the hv

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] irc, tm, t

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] *tr

*leah is now known as unoccupied

*unoccupied is now known as leah

tr-bridge

[Ariadne/tr] yes

Jun 14 13:28

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] sounds good

Jun 14 13:29

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] might need to adjust ttl to reduce downtime

Jun 14 13:30

techrights-bot

The ‘Fixer’ of António Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ #hungary #epo #corruption #europe #patents

Jun 14 13:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Fixer’ of António Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) | Techrights

Jun 14 13:30

techrights-bot

13 open source tools for developers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152262

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 open source tools for developers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Earth Pro • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152263

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Earth Pro | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#HaneSOM is a 4 cm2 Arm Linux module powered by Microchip SAMA5D2 SiP • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152264 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HaneSOM is a 4 cm2 Arm Linux module powered by Microchip SAMA5D2 SiP | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152265 #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] [13:41] <Techrights-sec> I presume TR, TM, and HV will all move to new IPv4 addresses at the same

Jun 14 13:41

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] [13:41] <Techrights-sec> time?

Jun 14 13:41

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: ^ is that so? we want to lower the dns overhead and can adjust ttl accordingly

Jun 14 13:41

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] MinceR: https://i.imgflip.com/4vqp4a.jpg

Jun 14 13:51

techrights-bot

[Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ #haar #de #hungary #epo #epc

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) | Techrights

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] MinceR: your master/boss/leader/main

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] your primary

techrights-bot

[Meme] #Microsoft Stooping Down Low in Search of #Vapourware With a Superficial Version Bump • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ ䷉ #Techrights #vista11 #vista10 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/

Jun 14 14:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Microsoft Stooping Down Low in Search of Vapourware With a Superficial Version Bump | Techrights

Jun 14 14:14

techrights-bot

The meeting which is set to resume at the start of next month includes the ‘Fixer’ of #AntónioCampinos ; what sense of impartiality might one expect? • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #corruption | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/

Jun 14 14:19

techrights-bot

#EPC denial is more lethal than anything which the the #EPO says may merit ‘urgency’ (as if having discussions about patents will save lives) [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ ䷉ #Techrights #Haar | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/

Jun 14 14:19

techrights-bot

Instead of trying to actually fix its broken (and self-breaking) operating system #Microsoft has decided to sell mythology and false promises, as usual • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ ䷉ #Techrights #vista10 #vista11 #vaporware | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/

Jun 14 14:21

techrights-bot

Conveniently Conflating #Vaccination With the #Surveillance Business of #IBM / #LinuxFoundation http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/ #zemlinPAC

Jun 14 14:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | Techrights

Jun 14 14:46

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techrights-bot

Psychonauts 2 confirmed for launch on August 25, Linux still supported | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/psychonauts-2-confirmed-for-launch-on-august-25-linux-still-supported ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

Jun 14 14:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Psychonauts 2 confirmed for launch on August 25, Linux still supported | GamingOnLinux

Jun 14 14:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Jun 14 14:59

techrights-bot

"Everything we've seen still clearly has #GNU #Linux there so we're good to go for it on August 9 for Early Access." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/the-tiny-multiplayer-online-rpg-book-of-travels-enters-early-access-on-august-9

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The tiny multiplayer online RPG 'Book of Travels' enters Early Access on August 9 | GamingOnLinux

techrights-bot

Horror-mystery novel Scarlet Hollow enters Early Access with two episodes out | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/horror-mystery-novel-scarlet-hollow-enters-early-access ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Horror-mystery novel Scarlet Hollow enters Early Access with two episodes out | GamingOnLinux

MinceR

14 064415 < tr-bridge> [DaemonFC/tr] Maybe even prophetic. SOME might get to leave and start a colony, if they pay Elon enough.

techrights-bot

"Still due to release sometime next year for #GNU #Linux and Windows (with Switch announced now too), Kitsune Tails is a platformer styled after beloved classics steeped in Japanese mythology and diverse relationships. It looks seriously cute too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/kitsune-tails-gets-another-sweet-trailer-ahead-of-release-next-year

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitsune Tails gets another sweet trailer ahead of release next year | GamingOnLinux

MinceR

that won't help

MinceR

the atmosphere of Mars is not useful to humans

MinceR

14 082049 < gustaf> phanes: I spent 17 years on Freenode without having to worry that what I said or did in a channel (or elsehwere) would bring staff down on me, or that channel

MinceR

sounds like you didn't hang out on freenode official channels :>

MinceR

14 083523 <@schestowitz> OK, I think MinceR put rules in place

MinceR

not really

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] MinceR: what did you get cancelled for?

Jun 14 15:10

techrights-bot

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152266

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

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Adrift - Alan Pope’s blog ⚓ https://popey.com/blog/2021/06/adrift/ ䷉ #Alanpopey | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

Jun 14 15:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Adrift - Alan Pope's blog

Jun 14 15:13

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] immibis: i didn't get cancelled yet, afaict

techrights-bot

Mostly useless reuses. How about companies start making devices that are easier to repair and properly upgrade instead? https://www.maketecheasier.com/reuse-old-routers/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 8 Ways to Reuse Your Old Routers - Make Tech Easier

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] crybullies don't even know who i am :>

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tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] You are Vickor Ficsor

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Vicar

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] or Viktor

techrights-bot

#Fedora Classroom: #RPM Packaging 101 - Fedora Magazine ⚓ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-classroom-rpm-packaging-101/ ䷉ #RedHat #IBM

Jun 14 15:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Fedora Classroom: RPM Packaging 101 - Fedora Magazine

Jun 14 15:17

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] lol no

Jun 14 15:18

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▆▄▅▅▆▅▁▆▅▄▅▃▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▄▅▇▃▂▂▄▇▅▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 24.45 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▅▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▁█▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 23.15▕ swarm size (avg): 245.13 ⟲

Jun 14 15:21

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Jun 14 15:21

psydroid

Vlad MinceR

Jun 14 15:22

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] i vill suck your blud!

Jun 14 15:23

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] villain

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] tbh, I found it fascinating how long he kept cloaked

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Touch not my krow!

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] I need it

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] after more than a decade I don't know his name, age etc.

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tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I know a few facts here and there based on what he said publicly

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] XRevan86: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmister Crowwwwwwwwwwww!

Jun 14 15:25

techrights-bot

#Games : Psychonauts 2, Starmancer, Book of Travels, Scarlet Hollow, Kitsune Tails, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152267 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jun 14 15:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Psychonauts 2, Starmancer, Book of Travels, Scarlet Hollow, Kitsune Tails, and More | Tux Machines

Jun 14 15:25

techrights-bot

#IBM /Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152268 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jun 14 15:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines

Jun 14 15:26

techrights-bot

#ibm : we litigate instead of innovate https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/06/10/why-ibm-is-suing-globalfoundries-over-chip-roadmap-failures/

Jun 14 15:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Why IBM Is Suing GlobalFoundries Over Chip Roadmap Failures

Jun 14 15:27

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tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] Another netsplit. The bridge seems to be fine though.

Jun 14 15:31

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] indeed

Jun 14 15:31

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] netsplits on freenode are nothing new, anyway

Jun 14 15:31

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] MinceR: With that frequency? Well…

Jun 14 15:32

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] well, freenode and ircnet split the most frequently, afaict

Jun 14 15:32

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Jun 14 15:32

CrystalMath

freenode is gonna change ircds, that's no tiny thing

Jun 14 15:34

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] freenode is deleting github

Jun 14 15:34

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] and no matter what you think of freenode, this is a good thing

Jun 14 15:34

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] I think it's because I suggested it to Lee

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] and he said he'd look into it

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] now there's git.freenode.net

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: To ircd-eight?

CrystalMath

inspircd

Jun 14 15:36

CrystalMath

also gonna migrate services to anope

Jun 14 15:36

*psymin nods.

Jun 14 15:38

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] MinceR: then how do you know they are crybullies?

Jun 14 15:38

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] the definition is unclear

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] but it's a term many use to refer to "liberal"

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] people exist on both 'sides'

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] when they feel 'insulted'

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[MinceR/tr] immibis: they tried to cancel other people, sometimes successfully

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] Ariadne gets litigation threats from someone on the right

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[schestowitz/tr] I get empty threats from supposedly liberal corrupt officials

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] of course they just try to intimidate and rattle

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[psymin/tr] glad they're empty

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Jun 14 15:44

schestowitz

[15:43] <schestowitz> when you show some embarrassing about them

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[schestowitz/tr] FN netsplit

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techrights-bot

Links 14/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC6, Psychonauts 2 for GNU/Linux • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-5-13-rc6/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-5-13-rc6/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC6, Psychonauts 2 for GNU/Linux | Techrights

techrights-bot

Linux - 23 minutes ago

Jun 14 15:49

techrights-bot

Jun 14 15:50

psydroid

OBJ?

Jun 14 15:50

techrights-bot

#Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152269 #

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Python Programming • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152270 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152271

Jun 14 15:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

Jun 14 15:52

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] MinceR: so who was cancelled?

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] RMS was, for example

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: "FN netsplit" – hm? another one?

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] RMS is banned from freenode?

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] XRevan86: no, it was just the end of that first one

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] yeah

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" #IBM likes to play with “enterprise openshift” Each has its advantages and each has its lifecycle. Intel life cycles tend to run 2-3 years where as Mainframe tends to run 10-15 years." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies

Jun 14 15:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs

Jun 14 15:56

techrights-bot

"As long as #IBM has sh--e workers they have an excuse for what they do." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies

Jun 14 15:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffs

Jun 14 15:57

techrights-bot

"Maybe you would work 2 hours a week and steal the rest wherever you worked. I totally agree you shouldn't trust #IBM with anything but that's not an excuse to rob them." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies

Jun 14 15:57

techrights-bot

"It's salesmen that want to add some new chrome trim and sell it as the next year's model... "Shiny new stuff!!!... Get yours here!!!"..." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies #ibm #layoffs

Jun 14 15:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs

Jun 14 15:58

MinceR

(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21051651

Jun 14 16:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5462628)

Jun 14 16:01

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] what is this monster?

Jun 14 16:13

MinceR

not a monster

(audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ybybf4tJWw https://next-hack.com/index.php/2021/06/12/lets-port-doom-to-an-ikea-tradfri-lamp/

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doom on an IKEA TRÅDFRI lamp! - YouTube

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Let’s port Doom to an IKEA TRÅDFRI Lamp! – next-hack.com

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] oh, wow

Jun 14 16:25

tr-bridge

[schestowitz/tr] 100kb of ram

Jun 14 16:26

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] it does use flash heavily during rendering, though

Jun 14 16:27

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] including external SPI flash they added to the circuit

Jun 14 16:27

schestowitz

just got some more EPO leaks

Jun 14 16:28

schestowitz

this is gold

Jun 14 16:28

schestowitz

they will waste almost 10,000,000 EUROS just suing their own STAFF

Jun 14 16:28

schestowitz

or fighting them with external lawyers

schestowitz

EPO is dying

MinceR

too bad those will come out of our pockets

schestowitz

sort of

schestowitz

they have their own budget

schestowitz

EPO is 'self-funding'

MinceR

which also comes out of our pockets

schestowitz

we just pay with settlements when trolls sue

schestowitz

I will work on it now

schestowitz

some of it is in German

schestowitz

did you see the two .hu articles we did (article, video) and meme this morning?

schestowitz

3 total

Jun 14 16:30

MinceR

Jun 14 16:30

MinceR

i did see some hu/EPO thing today

Jun 14 16:30

schestowitz

1. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) | Techrights

2. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/

schestowitz

3.http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 6: Best Buddies With António | Techrights

3. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/

schestowitz

Jun 14 16:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Fixer’ of António Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) | Techrights

Jun 14 16:32

schestowitz

(Corrected 3)

Jun 14 16:32

schestowitz

I reckon hundres of hungarians work at EPO

Jun 14 16:33

techrights-bot

Attempted about 12 times to phone Home Officer regarding http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ that number, which is widely advertised, never works. LOL. And the response to it varies between 3 states. I think their phone system is down. "Essential" service...

Jun 14 16:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office ‘Force’ EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices?

Jun 14 16:35

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techrights-bot

Oh gawd!!! More of that "Linux Foundation Research" today!!! It's NOT research. It's a joke. It's QUESTIONNAIRES and stuff... about BRANDING AND MARKETING. They redefine SPAM as "Research". Disgusting. #LinuxFoundation is corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. It's dragging down the "Linux" brand.

Jun 14 16:48

techrights-bot

More and more people I speak to and know for years stick to GNU but are looking to abandon Linux as the kernel. #linuxfoundation is one contributing factor.

Jun 14 16:51

psymin

What do you think some other factors could be?

schestowitz

weight

schestowitz

systemd

schestowitz

philosophy

MinceR

not sure about that

Jun 14 16:54

MinceR

BSD kernels come with their own userspaces :>

Jun 14 16:54

schestowitz

fidosdev also moved... and another friend

schestowitz

funnily enough, alpine goes the other way

schestowitz

less gnu, but still just linux

schestowitz

but.... no systemd

schestowitz

and a lot less bloat

MinceR

s/space/land/

Jun 14 16:57

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] does linux foundation have anything to do with linux?

Jun 14 16:58

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] indeed

Jun 14 16:59

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] while it is somewhat disguised now, as far as i can tell, the Linux CoC gives bureaucrats at the Linux-Destroying Foundation the power to ban people from the Linux project

techrights-bot

#GCC 11 Compiler Performance Benchmarks With Various Optimization Levels, LTO • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152272 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 11 Compiler Performance Benchmarks With Various Optimization Levels, LTO | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152273 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] it also helps its corporate owners ("members") violate the GPL on Linux in any way they feel like, without repercussions

tr-bridge

[psymin/tr] the CoC allows folks to violate the GPL?

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] no

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] the Linux-Destroying Foundation does

*tr-bridge [psymin/tr] nods.

tr-bridge

[psymin/tr] I'm glad the FSF exists and has backbone

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] the LDF also sent a powerful message by kicking out all community members a while ago

Jun 14 17:02

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] it is made of corporations and exists for the benefit of corporations

Jun 14 17:02

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] MinceR: pretty sure only torvalds and his delegates can ban people from the linux project

Jun 14 17:02

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] since the project is basically "whatever torvalds does"

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] Torvalds doesn't look like someone who has any control over the project

schestowitz

Torvalds can still shout

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] he didn't want the CoC, yet was eventually forced to adopt it

schestowitz

but not about things like 'secure boot'

schestowitz

he can talk down cranks

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] some microsoft drone bragged about being the party to force this

schestowitz

but not Red Hat cranks

schestowitz

with fake security

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] and around the time Linux was forced to adopt the CoC, Linus stepped down temporarily

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] and let the most vocal supporter of kdbus take over

schestowitz

novell/microsoft greg

schestowitz

who brought in Microsoft's Levin

schestowitz

sacha levin now his deputy

schestowitz

Microsoft: we OWN linux

schestowitz

Linux=Microsoft now http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights

schestowitz

they partly own it

schestowitz

thanks, LF

schestowitz

well done on all the money though

schestowitz

more sport cars for sheela and james z

psydroid

Linux is not important in the long run

MinceR

good

MinceR

because it won't exist in the long run

tr-bridge

[psymin/tr] Torvalds seems to have taken a path of avoiding some types of social and family conflict

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/real-world

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] he could have done that by leaving Linux and starting a fork

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Jun 14 17:07

tr-bridge

[psymin/tr] I think that would have met family drama head on

Jun 14 17:09

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] does the family have the right to take over someone's life's work?

Jun 14 17:10

schestowitz

fair point...

Jun 14 17:14

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Real World

schestowitz

MinceR: I will quote you in next article..

CrystalMath

really, this may be controversial, but... i think Richard Stallman was more right about "it's important to not have children" than people think, maybe even more than he himself knows

schestowitz

about budget

schestowitz

CrystalMath: yes, but it won't make him popular

CrystalMath

you see, projects by childless people are very different from projects by people who have children

MinceR

well, it's important, but he won't convince people of it

MinceR

nothing will

MinceR

the human species will just ensure its own extinction in the most painful ways possible

schestowitz

Brazil is devour catholic

CrystalMath

MinceR: but that's besides my point now...

schestowitz

and generally relatively dumb, with exception of course, like in most nations...

schestowitz

some of them you can barely compel to use contraceptive

CrystalMath

my point now is, a project by a childfree person will be *more free*

schestowitz

that would offer sweet jesus

CrystalMath

this is controversial

CrystalMath

but think about it! people who have children kinda change

schestowitz

yeah

schestowitz

need to bigger budget

MinceR

well, you can keep your project just as free, as long as you have a strong enough will to stand up to your own children

schestowitz

so they make excuses

MinceR

CrystalMath: everybody changes

schestowitz

like lunduke did when attacking rms to his face

CrystalMath

schestowitz: and they become parents, which means they start to see the importance of discipline

schestowitz

"I have a kid blah blah"

CrystalMath

because in their life it is important

schestowitz

having kids doesn't mature people

MinceR

i doubt i'd like "discipline" any more if i was a parent

schestowitz

it's a misconception

schestowitz

they might pretend better

MinceR

it's just another idea humans make life hell for each other

MinceR

with

CrystalMath

MinceR: you'd be changed, even by hormonal stuff, to be more caring about people rather than ideologies

CrystalMath

and yes even though you're a man

MinceR

and the ideologies aren't about people?

CrystalMath

the ideologies are always about people, but my point is, people with children are always more about "we must protect people, even from themselves"

CrystalMath

and i think this stems from hormonal effects

CrystalMath

and the lifestyle of a parent

MinceR

hopefully strong-willed people's minds aren't fucked up by hormones that much

CrystalMath

i know that i'm kinda going into some possible evolutionary psychology mumbo-jumbo, but i think that sort of vaguely makes sense?

MinceR

from the evolutionary perspective, we're a dead end

CrystalMath

i mean, isn't it not beneficial for a parent to think that way?

CrystalMath

*is it not

Jun 14 17:20

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Jun 14 17:20

MinceR

and so's everything that can't either itself develop technology to deal with challenges nonsapients can't beat, or team up with species that do so

Jun 14 17:20

MinceR

when the Sun goes red giant, no amount of praying or SJW nonsense or other ideological nonsense will save life on Earth from it

Jun 14 17:21

MinceR

only science and technology will

Jun 14 17:21

CrystalMath

there's also the other thing: people with children need a bigger budget

MinceR

i have no children and i still need a bigger budget

CrystalMath

they can no longer afford to devote to ideologies

MinceR

if only

CrystalMath

i would like some statistical data on the signers of the RMS petitions, how many on each side have children

Jun 14 17:23

CrystalMath

i think i really am on to something, but i've got nothing as far as evidence is concerned

Jun 14 17:23

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CrystalMath

for example i know that all of the people i debated on ##rms in 2019, all of the biggest anti-RMS voices were people who've had children

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CrystalMath

they either mentioned it or linked to their website which mentions it

MinceR

"wouldn't somebody please think of the children?"

schestowitz

makes sense

schestowitz

the "real world" crowd

schestowitz

they fear RMS

schestowitz

because he represents something they wanted to be but could not or cannot anymore

schestowitz

too debt-saddled

schestowitz

and indebted to kids, college etc.

schestowitz

sucks to be them...

schestowitz

I have a sister like this...

techrights-bot

A Parade of 'Yes Men': EPO's Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-budget-and-finance-committee/ #epo #europe #corruption #litigation #patents

Jun 14 17:37

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Jun 14 17:46

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] the real world does not care about some random loser who eats toenails

Jun 14 17:49

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] the real world cares about getting things done, which is usually best served by proprietary software

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] nice bait

psydroid

proprietary software for all

tr-bridge

[immibis/tr] "you pay me $100 and i'll give you a computer that can run word". done

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] and your punishment is using word

Jun 14 17:51

psydroid

proprietary software runs the world

Jun 14 17:51

psydroid

all supercomputers, servers and embedded devices

Jun 14 17:51

MinceR

yeah, so many proprietary kernels on the top500 list :>

Jun 14 17:52

psydroid

Jun 14 17:52

psydroid

I think it's selfish to want to destroy a person, the movement and organisation he started just because you fear for your own future finances in a world where free software had won

Jun 14 17:54

MinceR

i don't even know why they fear for that

Jun 14 17:54

psydroid

if you are afraid you're not going to be able to make ends meet, a job in IT may not be for you anymore

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MinceR

it's obvious that there are a lot of governments that can be corrupted into spending the people's money on the shoddiest proprietary crapware available

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psydroid

but I don't think it will turn out like that

MinceR

and that there are a lot of hipsters that will pay anything to have an alleged IT device with their cult's logo on it

techrights-bot

[Meme] #EPO 'Lawfulness' as Crude Budget Wars http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/ #patents #patent #europe #corruption

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psydroid

whatever advantage there may once have been for proprietary hardware and software, the world is increasingly turning to commodity hardware and free software

MinceR

it isn't exactly difficult to do better than deliberately crap software and hardware

psydroid

it's completely natural that old companies will die and new ones will spring up

MinceR

like Backdoors10 with its built-in keylogger and Intel hardware with its built-in hardware backdoor

psydroid

survival of the fittest, I guess

MinceR

and UEFI hardware with built-in vendor lock-in

psydroid

so now Nervana is dead, Altera in a state of limbo and the next victim will be SiFive

techrights-bot

New on #ibm decline: "I don't understand why anybody still has the illusion on the survivability of Power architecture. The installation base of Power ISA is less than 1%. It takes time and resource commitment to revive it. Apple succeeded in the late 1990s. Do you see ibm makes any resource commitment?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs

psydroid

Intel's track record is impressive

techrights-bot

New on #ibm decline: "Power declining is not new - it was already having problems meeting shipping targets since at least early 200x and has been on a competitive decline since. This was the main reason why Apple switched from Power to Intel in 2005." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies

psydroid

Apple bought PA Semi and could have been competitive with the POWER ISA, but why should they?

Jun 14 18:00

schestowitz

Intelligence Agency Intel

Jun 14 18:00

psydroid

there are no new initiatives using the POWER ISA apart from what is coming out of IBM and some fringe Raptor and LibreSOC stuff

Jun 14 18:01

MinceR

apple despises their own customers too much to even try

Jun 14 18:01

MinceR

they deserve each other

Jun 14 18:02

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schestowitz

curiously enough, in spite of freenode losing users, we still have many people here

schestowitz

and even after some things loud ircclown got banned

schestowitz

and some freenode staff left

schestowitz

let's hope for a calm IRC week ahead

schestowitz

we have tons of patent material to publish

techrights-bot

Michael Meeks: "Subscribed to Musescore, some quartet action. J. took H. & N. off to stay with B&A for a bit." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-06-13.html yes, THAT #Musescore

Jun 14 18:08

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Jun 14 18:08

techrights-bot

Why on Earth is #Microsoft not even mentioned here? Lobbying? Bribery? 'Campaigning'? ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/legislation-break-up-tech-monopolies/ ䷉ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

Jun 14 18:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Legislation to Break Up Tech Monopolies Inching Closer - Make Tech Easier

Jun 14 18:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Jun 14 18:10

techrights-bot

#microsoft loves to pretend that it's everywhere and in everything, except when it comes to regulation, antitrust, and break-up. Then Microsoft pretends it does not even exist!

Jun 14 18:11

techrights-bot

You know you're being lied to when companies like Facebook and Apple are accused of being too big or monopolies, whereas Microsoft is somehow magically 'benign' and barely exists...

Jun 14 18:12

techrights-bot

"re-discovered Android-Studio's love of consuming all memory and burning us deeply into swap." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog

Jun 14 18:16

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Jun 14 18:16

techrights-bot

#ibm #collapse "who in the right mind will buy a hardware business with less than 1% of installation base? If the BU is sold, it will either go to a bottom feeder, or one of the WITCH. Working for either is as unpleasant as working for ibm." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies

Jun 14 18:25

techrights-bot

LOL #ibm "People take every Thursday and Friday whole day off. ( Entire team)." [...] "I bet many other IBMers are doing the same and that's why company hasn't grown in last few years." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies

Jun 14 18:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffs

Jun 14 18:27

techrights-bot

"Also, my friend's team in #IBM works for 10-15 hrs weekly. It's slightly more than us but still we can enjoy every Friday together. They have only Friday offs. This is why we love IBM and still here. We don't care about execs or IBM at all. All people know IBM is drowning and they are not going to give any good raises or bonuses. So it's how we make our life happy." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies

Jun 14 18:28

techrights-bot

Review: Bodhi Linux 6.0.0 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152275

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Bodhi Linux 6.0.0 | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

Introducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152274

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

ALL "mobile" things have LONG been #fakeSecurity ... starting with the hardware https://symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/mobile-apps-ssl-locks

Jun 14 18:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com | Breaking SSL Locks: App Developers Behaving Badly | Symantec Blogs

Jun 14 18:31

techrights-bot

"Somehow, this didn’t get posted when I hit the post button, and I never noticed!" Do you not even double-check? Seems basic. https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6088

Jun 14 18:33

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Jun 14 18:33

psydroid

if buying the POWER BU gives you hardware engineers, you could have them retarget the processor to RISC-V and at least have a future. Or you could just let it die.

Jun 14 18:35

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Jun 14 18:36

psydroid

Fujitsu and Oracle saw the light and switched to ARM ... IBM never does?

Jun 14 18:39

techrights-bot

#Kdenlive 21.04.2 released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152276 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jun 14 18:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive 21.04.2 released | Tux Machines

Jun 14 18:39

techrights-bot

The way some media handles #COVID19 can be described as self-serving, especially #Microsoft -connected sites looking to make #Linux sound bad (or like property of Microsoft); the video above discusses this past weekend’s media coverage about “Linux” • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.te

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | Techrights

techrights-bot

The lack of oversight at the #EPO has long been apparent and it is becoming ever more problematic now that huge sums of money are passed by the EPO’s management to #law firms whose sole role is to fight against aggrieved EPO staff • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-budget-and-finance-committee/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Parade of ‘Yes Men’: EPO’s Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary | Techrights

techrights-bot

A war of attrition against #EPO staff won’t ensure justice is done; it’ll only increase the number of casualties and accomplish nothing good • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/ ䷉ #Techrights #europe #corruption #iloat| ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/

Jun 14 18:41

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static site

techrights-bot

#geminiprotocol is very lightweight and thus easy to host/manage from one's home. On slow connections. Many advantages inc. costs and #freespeech advantages.

Jun 14 18:45

techrights-bot

#betrusted #precursor #openhardware https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6097

Jun 14 18:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Monitoring the Health of Precursor’s TRNGs « bunnie's blog

Jun 14 18:46

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What is a CI/CD pipeline? | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/6/what-cicd-pipeline ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is a CI/CD pipeline? | Opensource.com

techrights-bot

"Because #Precursor uses an #FPGA for its SoC, we can add new features to the hardware “on the fly”." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6094

Jun 14 18:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Upgrading Precursor’s TRNG « bunnie's blog

Jun 14 18:53

techrights-bot

Jason Perlow from Microsoft doing puff pieces for this joke called "Linux Foundation Research" today!!! It's NOT research. It's a joke. It's QUESTIONNAIRES and stuff... about BRANDING AND MARKETING. They redefine SPAM as "Research". Disgusting.

Jun 14 18:56

techrights-bot

#LinuxFoundation in a nutshell http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation

Jun 14 18:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights

Jun 14 18:57

techrights-bot

#LinuxFoundation says "celebrating 30 years of Open Source", but Open Source isn't even 23 years old!!!! https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-linux-has-impacted-your-lives-celebrating-30-years-of-open-source/ revisionism: http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/

Jun 14 18:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | How Linux Has Impacted Your Lives - Celebrating 30 Years of Open Source - Linux Foundation

Jun 14 18:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Show Your Love for the GNU Operating System With These Banners | Techrights

Jun 14 18:59

gustaf

MinceR: I never had any need to visit a Freenode offiial channel, because staff left us the fuck alone

Jun 14 19:02

gustaf

17 years under old management - zero problems

Jun 14 19:03

gustaf

1 week under the new - our channel was taken from us

Jun 14 19:03

gustaf

I have adjusted my priors accordingly

Jun 14 19:03

MinceR

hallowed are the Ori?

Jun 14 19:04

techrights-bot

"Time to get your cyberpunk back on as Mechajammer from publisher Modern Wolf and developer Whalenought Studios has just been announced with confirmed #gnu #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/modern-wolf-announces-mechajammer-a-tactical-cyberpunk-turn-based-rpg

Jun 14 19:05

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modern Wolf announces Mechajammer, a tactical cyberpunk turn-based RPG | GamingOnLinux

Jun 14 19:05

techrights-bot

#IBM 's #RedHat conversions go only in one direction, and one might call this vendor lock-in https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/convert2rhel-adds-official-support-oracle-linux-conversions

Jun 14 19:07

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Convert2RHEL adds official support for Oracle Linux conversions

Jun 14 19:07

techrights-bot

"Friends from both Zuul CI and Circle CI stepped up and helped us started to get CI jobs transitioned over from Travis over to their new homes." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/06/14/bye-bye-travis-ci/ #curl would be wise to #deletegithub and self-host. I told Daniel many times before, but he's insistent.

Jun 14 19:09

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bye bye Travis CI | daniel.haxx.se

Jun 14 19:09

techrights-bot

#ACPI Platform Runtime Mechanism Support Is Getting Underway For Linux - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ACPI-PRM-Linux-Started ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

Jun 14 19:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACPI Platform Runtime Mechanism Support Is Getting Underway For Linux - Phoronix

Jun 14 19:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

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Linux 5.14 Mainline Should Work With The #RaspberryPi 400 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Raspberry-Pi-400-Linux-5.14 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 Mainline Should Work With The Raspberry Pi 400 - Phoronix

techrights-bot

#PDF Mix Tool 1.0 Released With Overhauled Interface, PDF Metadata Editing And Qt6 Support • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152277 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PDF Mix Tool 1.0 Released With Overhauled Interface, PDF Metadata Editing And Qt6 Support | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Intel Publishes Latest TDX Support Patches For Linux - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-TDX-Guest-Patches ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

Jun 14 19:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Publishes Latest TDX Support Patches For Linux - Phoronix

Jun 14 19:12

techrights-bot

I really love #nz accent :-)

Jun 14 19:13

techrights-bot

6 ways to increase your Linux sysadmin earning profile and potential | Enable Sysadmin ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/increasing-earning-potential ䷉ #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux

Jun 14 19:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 6 ways to increase your Linux sysadmin earning profile and potential | Enable Sysadmin

Jun 14 19:15

techrights-bot

This Arduino project is counting to a billion | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/14/this-arduino-project-is-counting-to-a-billion/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

Jun 14 19:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This Arduino project is counting to a billion | Arduino Blog

Jun 14 19:17

techrights-bot

Tagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: Can #memcpy be implemented in #LLVM IR? ⚓ http://nhaehnle.blogspot.com/2021/06/can-memcpy-be-implemented-in-llvm-ir.html ䷉ #nhaehnle #programming

Jun 14 19:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nhaehnle.blogspot.com | Tagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: Can memcpy be implemented in LLVM IR?

Jun 14 19:18

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▅▅▆▇▄▆▅▇▆▆▆▁▂▅▆▄▅▆▇▆▆▅▅▆▆▄▇▆▅▇▄▁ avg(k/sec) 30.03 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▃▁▂▁▁▃▁▃▁▁▂▂▂▁▄▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▃▃▁▃▂▂▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 74.90▕ swarm size (avg): 245.23 ⟲

Jun 14 19:20

techrights-bot

"The idea that an application built on OCP/K8s can be deployed / re-deployed to Z/Power/x86 on-prem or to AWS/Azure/GCP/IBM Cloud simply and easily without making any changes is ridiculous to anyone who has ever deployed an application. This is the late 90s Java "write once run anywhere" nonsense all over again." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies

Jun 14 19:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs

Jun 14 19:27

techrights-bot

Toward a Respectful #Hardware Production - Purism ⚓ https://puri.sm/posts/toward-a-respectful-hardware-production/ ䷉ #purism #gnu #linux

Jun 14 19:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Toward a Respectful Hardware Production – Purism

Jun 14 19:28

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Jun 14 19:29

schestowitz

MinceR: are those likely spammers?

Jun 14 19:30

schestowitz

I noticed this pattern...

Jun 14 19:30

MinceR

yeah

Jun 14 19:30

schestowitz

it's a good thing you shoved a condom over their heads then

Jun 14 19:31

MinceR

i quieted unidentified users because they started spewing spam here

Jun 14 19:31

schestowitz

saboteurs

Jun 14 19:31

techrights-bot

"An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,751 and that helps show that many support #gnu founder #rms in charge of #fsf and #freesw (contrary to #corporatemedia lies and defamation)

Jun 14 19:32

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Jun 14 19:33

techrights-bot

#Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152278 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Jun 14 19:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI | Tux Machines

Jun 14 19:34

techrights-bot

#helloSystem - FreeBSD Based OS Brings another Promising Release 0.5.0 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152279 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | helloSystem - FreeBSD Based OS Brings another Promising Release 0.5.0 | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#OpenHardware: Librem, Arduino, and Precursor • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152280 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Librem, Arduino, and Precursor | Tux Machines

https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/06/do-we-even-need-the-computer-fraud-abuse-act-cfaa-van-buren-v-us.htm

techrights-bot

IoThree’s Company Microconference Accepted into 2021 #Linux Plumbers Conference https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/06/14/iothrees-company-microconference-accepted-into-2021-linux-plumbers-conference/

Jun 14 19:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | IoThree’s Company Microconference Accepted into 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference – Linux Plumbers Conference 2021

Jun 14 19:38

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Jun 14 19:38

AdmFubar

Jun 14 19:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ericgoldman.org | Do We Even Need the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act (CFAA)?-Van Buren v. US - Technology & Marketing Law Blog

Jun 14 19:39

techrights-bot

Do We Even Need the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act ( #CFAA )?-#VanBuren v. US - Technology & Marketing Law Blog ⚓ https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/06/do-we-even-need-the-computer-fraud-abuse-act-cfaa-van-buren-v-us.htm ䷉ #ericgoldman #freesw

Jun 14 19:41

techrights-bot

" #Inacta briefly considered #IBM #RedHat #OpenShift , but realized that the monocluster architecture makes scaling (and multi-cluster management) difficult and would also cause costs to soar." https://www.suse.com/c/inacta-scaling-up-with-kubernetes/

Jun 14 19:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Inacta: Scaling Up with Kubernetes | SUSE Communities

Jun 14 19:42

techrights-bot

With Deskreen, You Can Mirror or Stream Your Linux Computer Screen to Any Device • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152281

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | With Deskreen, You Can Mirror or Stream Your Linux Computer Screen to Any Device | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

SUSE/Red Hat Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152282

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210610/06275246964/buried-apple-privacy-scandal-undermines-attacks-right-to-repair-legislation.shtml

techrights-bot

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152283

Jun 14 19:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

Jun 14 19:49

techrights-bot

#debian Developers on issues with #ibm #redhat vendor lock-in #ansible http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2021/transilience/my-gripes-with-ansible if only he blasted #systemd like Ansible...

Jun 14 19:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enricozini.org | My gripes with Ansible

Jun 14 19:52

AdmFubar

Jun 14 19:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Buried Apple Privacy Scandal Undermines Its Attacks On Right To Repair Legislation | Techdirt

Jun 14 19:53

AdmFubar

think what you may....

Jun 14 20:01

AdmFubar

https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/13/0052214&from=rss

Jun 14 20:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | The Human Brain is More Like a Testicle than any Other Organ - SoylentNews

Jun 14 20:01

AdmFubar

https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/11/2252205&from=rss

Jun 14 20:03

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | India has More than 28,000 "Black Fungus" Cases: Health Minister - SoylentNews

Jun 14 20:03

schestowitz

"Black Fungus"?

Jun 14 20:05

schestowitz

what is that about?

Jun 14 20:05

AdmFubar

yeah

Jun 14 20:05

AdmFubar

dusty environments, covid, suppressed immune systems...

Jun 14 20:06

techrights-bot

How to make #programming not about programming. Sounds like those people who try to impose marketing buzzwords and mandatory "meetings" on all of us to reduce productivity, harm users, farm people's data etc. https://skamille.medium.com/an-incomplete-list-of-skills-senior-engineers-need-beyond-coding-8ed4a521b29f

Jun 14 20:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skamille.medium.com | An incomplete list of skills senior engineers need, beyond coding | by Camille Fournier | Jun, 2021 | Medium

Jun 14 20:08

techrights-bot

"8.5 years ago, I moved my blog to #Ikiwiki and Branchable. It's now time for me to take the next step and host my blog on my own server. This is how I migrated from Branchable to my own Apache server." https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/self-hosting-ikiwiki-blog/

Jun 14 20:09

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feeding.cloud.geek.nz | Self-hosting an Ikiwiki blog

Jun 14 20:09

techrights-bot

How do you explain to people that to be a #freesw developer you need to actually engage in #programming and improve coding skills? "Meetings", pandering, pushing CoCs around and interjecting politics into projects is hardly contributing and it can oftentimes actively harm development communities.

Jun 14 20:11

techrights-bot

Yes, actually contributing to #freesw by actually writing code is a lot of work and hard work, including learning/training/practising, but we need people who do things, not people who try to stir shit up like Bully de Blanc did...

Jun 14 20:14

techrights-bot

" #Toradex is extending its Torizon operating system for use as a full IoT development and operations (DevOps) platform for Linux devices." https://www.eletimes.com/extended-platform-for-iot-linux-devices

Jun 14 20:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eletimes.com | NO TITLE

Jun 14 20:14

techrights-bot

#LibreOffice Sidebar converted to „native” HTML controls https://eszkadev.blogspot.com/2021/06/sidebar-converted-to-native-html.html

Jun 14 20:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eszkadev.blogspot.com | What is eszka doing: Sidebar converted to „native” HTML controls

Jun 14 20:15

techrights-bot

#Panfrost now supports OpenGL ES 3.1 on Midgard (Mali T760 and newer) and Bifrost (Mali G31, G52, G76) GPUs - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/14/panfrost-opengl-es-3-1-midgard-mali-t760-bifrost-mali-g31-g52-g76-gpu/ ䷉ #Linux #Graphics | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

Jun 14 20:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Panfrost now supports OpenGL ES 3.1 on Midgard (Mali T760 and newer) and Bifrost (Mali G31, G52, G76) GPUs - CNX Software

Jun 14 20:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Jun 14 20:16

techrights-bot

#Intel #Gallium3D Driver Merged Into Mesa 21.2 For Gen4 Through Haswell Graphics - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Crocus-Has-Landed ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux

Jun 14 20:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Gallium3D Driver Merged Into Mesa 21.2 For Gen4 Through Haswell Graphics - Phoronix

Jun 14 20:17

techrights-bot

Another Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge Motherboard Now Works For #Coreboot (ASUS P8Z77-V) - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Coreboot-ASUS-P8Z77-V ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge Motherboard Now Works For Coreboot (ASUS P8Z77-V) - Phoronix

techrights-bot

"AI designing AI" HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-may-2021 #buzzwords

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State of Robotics – May 2021 | Ubuntu

techrights-bot

Links 14/6/2021: #Kdenlive 21.04.2 and #RaspberryPi 400 Support in Linux • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/kdenlive-21-04-2/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/kdenlive-21-04-2/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2021: Kdenlive 21.04.2 and Raspberry Pi 400 Support in Linux | Techrights

techrights-bot

#Games : GOG, Mechajammer, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152284 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GOG, Mechajammer, and More | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152285 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Programming Leftovers and Ansible • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152286 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers and Ansible | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Kernel : Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152287 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex | Tux Machines

tr-bridge

[XRevan86/tr] https://xkcd.com/2476/

Jun 14 20:41

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Base Rate

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tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1006282457/illinois-chemical-plant-explosion-fires-prompt-evacuations-chemtool-rockton

Jun 14 20:44

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | An Illinois Chemical Plant Explosion And Fires Prompt Evacuations : NPR

Jun 14 20:44

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] People in the area have ash falling on them.

Jun 14 20:52

AdmFubar

scarier then the magnesium recycle plant fire here years ago...

Jun 14 21:01

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] The cops are advising people to gather at a middle school 3.5 miles away.

Jun 14 21:06

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] That's not nearly far enough.

Jun 14 21:06

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1006126724/hyundai-plant-in-alabama-pauses-manufacturing-due-to-car-chip-shortage

Jun 14 21:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Alabama Hyundai Plant Halts Production Due To Car Ship Shortage : NPR

Jun 14 21:08

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1000464866/china-has-promised-to-go-carbon-neutral-by-2060-but-coal-is-still-king

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | China Has Promised To Go Carbon-Neutral By 2060, But Coal Is Still King : NPR

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] China continues to talk out of both sides of their mouth.

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Carbon neutral promises while also building three times more coal power capacity last year as the rest of the world put together.

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▇▅▅█▆▅▂▃▂▇▆▆▅▅▅▆▅▆▅▅▃▄▃▆▄▅▆▅▆▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 39.91 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▃▂▂▃██▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▃▃▂▂▁▂▁▁▂█▂▃▁▂▂▃▃▂▃▂▃▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 42.43▕ swarm size (avg): 245.28 ⟲

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Jun 14 21:22

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] they're having their kayak and heating it too

Jun 14 21:36

schestowitz

npr, funded by gates and Microsoft

Jun 14 21:42

schestowitz

I lost interest when I found out Microsoft too bribes it

Jun 14 21:42

schestowitz

and yet it covers Microsoft 'news'

schestowitz

while admitting Microsoft pays them

schestowitz

RIP, NPR

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalism’s Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review

techrights-bot

Linux Mint 20.2 beta ISOs undergo testing and are due soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151779#new

Jun 14 21:44

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 “Uma” Announced with New Bulk Renaming App, Beta Is Coming Mid-June | Tux Machines

Jun 14 21:44

techrights-bot

#DestinationLinux 230: Our Favorite Distros of 2021, So Far https://destinationlinux.org/episode-230/

Jun 14 21:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 230: Our Favorite Distros of 2021, So Far - Destination Linux

Jun 14 21:47

techrights-bot

#google the back doors company is #openwashing its "homomorphic" #encryption package https://lwn.net/Articles/859688/rss Google... same company that put BACK-DOORED 'encryption' INSIDE LINUX

Jun 14 21:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google's fully homomorphic encryption package [LWN.net]

Jun 14 21:55

techrights-bot

Kernel: Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152287

Jun 14 21:57

techrights-bot

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152288

Jun 14 21:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

Jun 14 21:57

tr-bridge

[psymin/tr] rip NPR :(

Jun 14 22:08

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Jun 14 22:11

schestowitz

psydroid: MinceR: I wrote about the whole Linux thing

Jun 14 22:13

schestowitz

wanna proofread?

Jun 14 22:13

MinceR

yeah

psydroid

sure

schestowitz

draft, MinceR http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Today’s Linux Standing for the Opposite of What Linux Users Stand for | Techrights

MinceR

lol @ methodology from IDC

Jun 14 22:16

MinceR

schestowitz: looks good to me

Jun 14 22:16

schestowitz

thanks

schestowitz

IDC part of IDG

schestowitz

china

schestowitz

no longer even doing articles

schestowitz

just running sponsored puff pieces

schestowitz

in what USED to be news sites

psydroid

the text looks fine to me

Jun 14 22:18

schestowitz

thanks, must be luck

Jun 14 22:18

schestowitz

single pass

Jun 14 22:18

techrights-bot

Today’s Linux Standing for the Opposite of What #Linux Users Stand for http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ #linuxfoundation #kernel #microsoft #openwashing

Jun 14 22:21

techrights-bot

Linux Foundation: sold, defunct. Sold to #microsoft and friends on the cheap... http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#June_2021 #zemlinPAC #traitor #selfharm

Jun 14 22:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights

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tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hBwkA4SSSo

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Ranked All Asian Car Brands from Worst to Best - YouTube

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Subaru is worse than Kia.

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] Wow

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Jun 14 22:41

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Jun 14 22:42

tr-bridge

[DaemonFC/tr] I would think that worse than exploding engines would be hard.

Jun 14 22:42

schestowitz

Mincer: I can't seem to be able to remove the q mode

schestowitz

even as op

schestowitz

I need this for the ipfs bot

schestowitz

otherwise, like yesterday, things would not run properly. irc logs and all

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] schestowitz/fn: /mode #techrights -q $~a

Jun 14 22:44

*schestowitz sets mode -q #techrights $~a

Jun 14 22:45

schestowitz

thanks

Jun 14 22:45

schestowitz

ipfs bot isn't stable

Jun 14 22:45

schestowitz

so 'voicing' it isn't always enough, as I'm often asleep when the cron jobs are run

Jun 14 22:46

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] you could give it autovoice in chanserv, i guess

Jun 14 22:47

schestowitz

if you know how to do that

Jun 14 22:47

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] i can't look it up because services are not on my side

Jun 14 22:47

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] but i think it's something like /quote chanserv flags #techrights +V techrights-ipfs

Jun 14 22:48

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] provided it has a nickserv account

Jun 14 22:48

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] if not, it might work with a hostmask

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tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] /quote chanserv help flags probably tells you how to do it

schestowitz

thanks for the pointer

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] np

schestowitz

antother wave of netsplits just spat out about 20 users

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] maybe they're migrating to another ircd already

schestowitz

I think they need a policy fix

schestowitz

the daemon isn't the issue

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] indeed

schestowitz

the demons who run this network are the issue

schestowitz

with nicknames like "Red Horseman"

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] especially since what i thought the main attraction of the new ircd was (spamfilter) is allegedly also available in this one

schestowitz

I thought misusing op to intimidate people was a violation of policy

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] i don't think the cool names are the problem

schestowitz

but you know coc things, they don't apply to those who introduce them

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] k-lining people for disagreeing on a support channel definitely is

schestowitz

anyway, I checked netsplit.de today

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] and k-lining irccloud for an insult on twatter isn't a good look either

schestowitz

not looking too good for FN

schestowitz

what tweet?

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] well yeah, k-lining people tends to decrease the number of users :>

schestowitz

I didn't know about that...

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] https://nitter.fdn.fr/IRCCloud/status/1397475744448663564

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.fdn.fr | IRCCloud (@IRCCloud): "The Freenode network is under new management, and the new staff have taken over hundreds of legitimate channels. We strongly urge anyone still connected to that network to check that your channels are safe and take immediate steps to move to another network." | FDNitter

schestowitz

was that shortly before the ban?

tr-bridge

[MinceR/tr] i haven't checked

schestowitz

May 26th

schestowitz

so long before it was k-lined wholesale