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bnchs__"Godot received a $24,000 donation from Microsoft to implement C# as a scripting language in Godot"Feb 17 00:01
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bnchs__counting bribes as "donation"Feb 17 00:01
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▆▅▁▃▅▆▃▂▅▆▅▅▄▇▅▆▄▄▆▇▅▁▂▅▆▃▅▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.58 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁█▁▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▁▂█▂▁█▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 65.10▕ swarm size (avg): 269.70  ⟲Feb 17 00:10
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▆▅▁▃▅▆▃▂▅▆▅▅▄▇▅▆▄▄▆▇▅▁▂▅▆▃▅▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.58 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁█▁▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▁▂█▂▁█▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 65.10▕ swarm size (avg): 269.70  ⟲Feb 17 00:10
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MinceR:(Feb 17 00:14
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psydroid2oh, that's why they have that C# crap versionFeb 17 00:17
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22020771Feb 17 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/u4ognwonbsf81.jpg created on 2022-02-07 22:28:16.258054Feb 17 00:17
psydroid2I was already confused so I just built it from scratchFeb 17 00:17
psydroid2and I don't have any Mono or .NET installedFeb 17 00:17
psydroid2alsoFeb 17 00:17
psydroid2$24,000 is nothing for that kind of workFeb 17 00:18
psydroid2are they handing out tips or something?Feb 17 00:18
MinceRthey're buying influenceFeb 17 00:18
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MinceRand loyaltyFeb 17 00:18
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XRevan86This IRC server makes me wish biboumi had auto-reconnect.Feb 17 00:24
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Maybe we should talk about "Holdup".Feb 17 00:25
DaemonFCAnd how there are disturbing signs of potential untoward practices going on behind the curtains.Feb 17 00:25
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DaemonFC$24,000? That's it?Feb 17 00:44
DaemonFCWho accepts $24,000 for that amount of skilled labor?Feb 17 00:44
bnchs__so the math library i used had a miscalculationFeb 17 00:50
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22020618Feb 17 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/zuiwfml8mtf81.png created on 2022-02-06 07:45:00.996665Feb 17 00:53
bnchs__finally pixel perfect 2D drawing in a 3D libraryFeb 17 00:55
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bnchs__goodnightFeb 17 01:00
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techrights-news#Mozilla uses #DataPrivacyDay to pretend that it still values users' #privacy (it did a long time ago, not it's just posing) https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/how-to-secure-data-online/Feb 17 01:18
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/how-to-secure-data-online/Feb 17 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | How to secure your data in less than 10 minutesFeb 17 01:18
techrights-newsThe #WWW is resorting to malware and Web sites are becoming nothing short of #malware https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NOw8FAz-QycFeb 17 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Could Crypto Mining Ever Replace Advertising? - InvidiousFeb 17 01:29
techrights-newsSorting beads the easy way | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/16/sorting-beads-the-easy-way/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #HackingFeb 17 01:31
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: arduino.cc | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/16/sorting-beads-the-easy-way/Feb 17 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Sorting beads the easy way | Arduino BlogFeb 17 01:31
techrights-news#mozilla does not and cannot speak for #privacy ... it still exploits a reputation it deliberately lost years ago https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/americans-deserve-federal-privacy-protections-and-greater-transparency-into-hidden-harms-online/ http://techrights.org/wiki/MozillaFeb 17 01:35
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/americans-deserve-federal-privacy-protections-and-greater-transparency-into-hidden-harms-online/Feb 17 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Americans deserve federal privacy protections and greater transparency into hidden harms onlineFeb 17 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla - TechrightsFeb 17 01:35
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The IRS has a lot of fires raging right now.Feb 17 01:35
DaemonFCMost of them related to various COVID things going on and underfunding.Feb 17 01:35
DaemonFCBut another that they walked into on their own is ID.meFeb 17 01:36
techrights-newsJoerg Jaspert: Funny CPU usage - rewrite it in #rustlang https://blog.ganneff.de/2022/02/funny-cpu-usage-rewrite-in-rust.html that leads to a whole bunch of new issues http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/Feb 17 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ganneff.de | Funny CPU usage - rewrite it in rust | Ganneff’s Little BlogFeb 17 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | TechrightsFeb 17 01:37
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techrights-news#freebsd new committer: Alfonso S. Siciliano (src) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2022-02-09:1 #bsd #unixFeb 17 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD ProjectFeb 17 01:38
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DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/wgn-news-now/how-dependent-is-illinois-on-federal-money/Feb 17 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | How dependent is Illinois on federal money? | WGN-TVFeb 17 01:40
DaemonFCIllinois still gets back less than we pay.Feb 17 01:40
DaemonFCBut we've gone from paying a dollar and getting back 77 cents a few years ago to paying a dollar and getting back 94 cents.Feb 17 01:40
DaemonFCA lot of that has to do with that constitutional amendment I voted to pass that requires the state to spend transportation taxes on transportation projects, instead of raiding it to pay for welfare and crap.Feb 17 01:41
techrights-newsTeardown: #Alcatel Telic 1 Minitel Terminal | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/teardown-alcatel-telic-1-minitel-terminal/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latestFeb 17 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Teardown: Alcatel Telic 1 Minitel Terminal | HackadayFeb 17 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2022/02/17/Feb 17 01:41
DaemonFCThat triggers federal matching funds, and brings more jobs here.Feb 17 01:41
techrights-news#Slackware 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161549 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick | Tux MachinesFeb 17 01:42
techrights-newsCardboard; an exciting scrollable tiling window manager • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161550 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cardboard; an exciting scrollable tiling window manager | Tux MachinesFeb 17 01:42
DaemonFCWhen I votes for it, I broke down Chicago by precinct and I was one of the few that supported it because I lived in South Shore. Like 86% realized the state may have to cut welfare if it funded infrastructure.Feb 17 01:42
DaemonFC*votedFeb 17 01:42
techrights-newsIt cannot be "Privacy-first" if it targets #android https://medevel.com/fairemail/Feb 17 01:42
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/fairemail/Feb 17 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | FairEmail: a Privacy-first Email client for AndroidFeb 17 01:42
DaemonFCBut it was massively supported on the north side of Chicago and everywhere else in the state.Feb 17 01:43
DaemonFCSo the measure carried.Feb 17 01:43
DaemonFCIf construction workers don't have jobs, they aren't paying taxes. If they aren't paying taxes, the state revenue goes down and they still have to cut welfare programs because nobody is paying in.Feb 17 01:43
techrights-news#Elasticsearch 8 and syslog-ng https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/elasticsearch-8-and-syslog-ngFeb 17 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elasticsearch 8 and syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng CommunityFeb 17 01:44
DaemonFCMinceR, The cat's acne is clearing up already.Feb 17 01:45
DaemonFCI had the vet give me some antibiotic gel for it.Feb 17 01:45
techrights-news#Firebird 3.0.9 sub-release is available https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2022/02/firebird-309-sub-release-is-available.htmlFeb 17 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mapopa.blogspot.com | Mariuz's Blog: Firebird 3.0.9 sub-release is availableFeb 17 01:46
DaemonFCMom was asking if I really wanted to go in there and have them do that dental cleaning she needs. I said, "What do you mean?".Feb 17 01:46
DaemonFCShe goes, "Well, how old is the cat?".Feb 17 01:46
DaemonFCI said, "Probably about 8, why?".Feb 17 01:46
DaemonFCHer cat is 17 out of pure luck. They don't even take it to the vet.Feb 17 01:46
DaemonFCAnd they feed it junk.Feb 17 01:47
DaemonFCThing would probably live to be my age if they took better care of it.Feb 17 01:47
DaemonFCThe IRS website just plain sucks.Feb 17 01:48
techrights-newsSIG Node CI Subproject Celebrates Two Years of Test Improvements https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/02/16/sig-node-ci-subproject-celebrates/Feb 17 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | SIG Node CI Subproject Celebrates Two Years of Test Improvements | KubernetesFeb 17 01:48
DaemonFCSo many people are scrambling to file taxes that the site glitches and sends you to that "Just a moment...." page.Feb 17 01:48
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▆▇▇▂▂▆▅▆▄▆▅▅▅▄▂▆▅▆▆▁▆▂▆▃▅▆▄▁▃▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 22.95 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂█▂█▁▁▂▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 38.40▕ swarm size (avg): 269.73  ⟲Feb 17 01:50
techrights-newsA Note on D-Bus API Versioning https://blogs.gnome.org/mwleeds/2022/02/16/a-note-on-d-bus-api-versioning/ #gnomeFeb 17 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | A Note on D-Bus API Versioning – Phaedrus Leeds' GNOME BlogFeb 17 01:51
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techrights-newsCockpit Project: Cockpit 263 https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-263.html #ibm #redhat #fedora #gnu #linuxFeb 17 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cockpit-project.org | Cockpit 263 — Cockpit ProjectFeb 17 01:58
techrights-newsPut A Little Piece Of The James Webb On Your Wall | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/put-a-little-piece-of-the-james-webb-on-your-wall/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latestFeb 17 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Put A Little Piece Of The James Webb On Your Wall | HackadayFeb 17 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2022/02/17/Feb 17 01:59
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techrights-news"If you’ve had any dealings with Cat 5 and Cat 6 cable, and let’s be honest, who hasn’t, you’ve probably wrestled with lengths anywhere from 1 meter to 25 meters if you’re hooking up a long haul. Network admins will be familiar with the 0.1 m variety for neat hookups in server cabinets." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/tiny-ethernet-cable-arms-race-spawns-from-reddit-discussion/Feb 17 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tiny Ethernet Cable Arms Race Spawns From Reddit Discussion | HackadayFeb 17 02:01
techrights-news#Launchpad News: New domain names for PPAs https://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/new-domain-names-for-ppasFeb 17 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.launchpad.net | Launchpad BlogFeb 17 02:02
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techrights-news#manubot needs to #deletegithub https://medevel.com/manubot/ #microsoft #proprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubFeb 17 02:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Manubot: Automated Scholarly Workflow publishing system with Open-source flavorFeb 17 02:04
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/manubot/Feb 17 02:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - TechrightsFeb 17 02:04
techrights-news"Batteries are amazing. Batteries are horrible. Batteries are a necessary evil in today’s world of portable everything. If you’re reading this sentence, even if it’s not on a mobile device, somewhere there is a battery involved." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/when-battery-rebuilds-go-wrong-understanding-bmss-spot-welders-and-safety/Feb 17 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When Battery Rebuilds Go Wrong: Understanding BMSs, Spot Welders, And Safety | HackadayFeb 17 02:06
techrights-news● NEWS ● #WindowsCentral ☞ Linux beats Windows 11 when running on the best CPU from Intel https://www.windowscentral.com/linux-beats-windows-11-when-running-best-cpu-intelFeb 17 02:09
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/linux-beats-windows-11-when-running-best-cpu-intelFeb 17 02:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Linux beats Windows 11 when running on the best CPU from Intel | Windows CentralFeb 17 02:09
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TechRepublic #Slackware ☞ Slackware 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick https://www.techrepublic.com/article/slackware-15-is-a-throwback-to-old-school-linux-with-a-modern-kick/Feb 17 02:10
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/slackware-15-is-a-throwback-to-old-school-linux-with-a-modern-kick/Feb 17 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slackware 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick | TechRepublicFeb 17 02:10
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #Akamai ☞ Akamai To Acquire #Linode to Provide Businesses with a Developer-friendly and Massively-distributed Platform to Build, Run and Secure Applications https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acquire-linode the company you probably did not want to own your machines....Feb 17 02:11
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge ☞ Disney is developing planned communities for fans who never want to leave its clutches https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/16/22937210/disney-residential-communities-storyliving-cotino-planned-townFeb 17 02:11
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TechTarget #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Trickbot has infected 140,000-plus machines since late 2020 https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252513466/Trickbot-has-infected-140000-plus-machines-since-late-2020Feb 17 02:13
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techtarget.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252513466/Trickbot-has-infected-140000-plus-machines-since-late-2020Feb 17 02:13
techrights-news● NEWS ● #PCWorld #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #vista11 quietly adds subscription info to Settings https://www.pcworld.com/article/613963/windows-11-quietly-adds-subscription-info-to-settings.html http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Feb 17 02:13
techrights-news● NEWS ● #PCWorld #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #vista11 ’s update schedule blurs as Microsoft vows ‘continuous innovation’ https://www.pcworld.com/article/614907/windows-11s-update-schedule-blurs-as-microsoft-promises-continuous-innovation.htmlFeb 17 02:13
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #Variety #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Spotify Buys Podcast Analytics Firms #Podsights and Chartable https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-acquires-podsights-chartable-1235184132/Feb 17 02:14
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: variety.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-acquires-podsights-chartable-1235184132/Feb 17 02:14
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Energy ☞ Why you can’t rebuild #Wikipedia with [cryptocurrency] https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/16/22936487/molly-white-web3-is-going-just-greatFeb 17 02:18
techrights-news● NEWS ● #FOSSForce ☞ Neil McGovern Stepping Down as Gnome’s Executive Director https://fossforce.com/2022/02/neil-mcgovern-stepping-down-as-gnomes-executive-director/ good riddance http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/Feb 17 02:19
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techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 techpol + social irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-160222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-160222.txtFeb 17 02:38
techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 techrights irc ■ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-160222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-160222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-160222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-160222.txtFeb 17 02:39
techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 boycottnovell irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-160222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-160222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-160222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-160222.txtFeb 17 02:40
techrights-newsLinks 17/2/2022: #Firebird 3.x Sub-Release and Simula One in About a Year • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/16/simula-one/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/16/simula-one/Feb 17 02:40
techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 techbytes irc ■ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-160222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-160222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-160222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-160222.txtFeb 17 02:41
techrights-news✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-16.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-16.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)Feb 17 02:42
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161558 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:43
techrights-news#ProprietarySoftware Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161551 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:44
techrights-news#Programming leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161552 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:45
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Feb 17 02:46
techrights-news#Server: Firebird, Elasticsearch, Kubernetes, and Launchpad • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161553 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server: Firebird, Elasticsearch, Kubernetes, and Launchpad | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:46
techrights-news#FairEmail and #Privacy Posing by #Mozilla • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161554 #www #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FairEmail and Privacy Posing by Mozilla | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:46
techrights-news#GNOME: End for Neil McGovern, D-Bus API Versioning, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161555 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: End for Neil McGovern, D-Bus API Versioning, and More | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:46
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161556 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:47
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161557 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:47
techrights-newsNot solving issues http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-160222.html#tFeb%2016%2020:15:45Feb 17 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 16, 2022Feb 17 02:49
techrights-news● NEWS ● #NBC #Politics ☞ Tech exec used access to #WhiteHouse computers to look for dirt on Trump, says special counsel https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/tech-exec-used-access-white-house-computers-look-dirt-trump-says-speci-rcna16123Feb 17 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Tech exec used access to White House computers to look for dirt on Trump, says special counselFeb 17 02:49
techrights-news● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Politics ☞ Govt's efforts to make big tech Cos accountable shouldn't be spun as 'anti-free speech': MoS IT https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/govts-efforts-to-make-big-tech-cos-accountable-shouldnt-be-spun-as-anti-free-speech-mos-it/89619976 do not say "big tech" http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/Feb 17 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | free speech: Govt's efforts to make big tech Cos accountable shouldn't be spun as 'anti-free speech': MoS IT, CIO News, ET CIOFeb 17 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | TechrightsFeb 17 02:51
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #KrebsOnSecurity ☞ #RedCross Crack Linked to Iranian Influence Operation? https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/02/red-cross-hack-linked-to-iranian-influence-operation/ likely linked to #microsoft crap http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/Feb 17 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Red Cross Hack Linked to Iranian Influence Operation? – Krebs on SecurityFeb 17 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | TechrightsFeb 17 02:54
techrights-news● NEWS ● #NBC #PressFreedom ☞ Jury rules against Sarah #Palin in her New York Times #defamation case https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jury-rules-sarah-palin-defamation-case-new-york-rcna16275Feb 17 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Jury rules against Sarah Palin in her New York Times defamation caseFeb 17 02:58
techrights-news● NEWS ● #VOANews #PressFreedom ☞ Russia-imposed Court in #Crimea Sentences RFE/RL Journalist to Six Years in Prison https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-imposed-court-in-crimea-sentences-rfe-rl-journalist-yesypenko-to-six-years-in-prison/6444162.htmlFeb 17 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Russia-imposed Court in Crimea Sentences RFE/RL Journalist to Six Years in PrisonFeb 17 02:58
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ABC #PressFreedom ☞ #Pakistan #police arrest media owner after scuffle in capital https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pakistani-police-arrest-journalist-unspecified-charges-82921453Feb 17 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Pakistani police arrest media owner after scuffle in capital - ABC NewsFeb 17 02:58
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ABC #Internet ☞ Prisons, #Water Infrastructure And Broadband: Where States Are Spending Their Pandemic Relief Funding https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/prisons-water-infrastructure-and-broadband-where-states-are-spending-their-pandemic-relief-funding/Feb 17 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prisons, Water Infrastructure And Broadband: Where States Are Spending Their Pandemic Relief Funding | FiveThirtyEightFeb 17 02:58
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Censorship ☞ Content Moderation Case Study: #gulagtube Doubles Down On Questionable 'graphic Content' Enforcement Before Reversing Course (2020) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220216/15250848490/content-moderation-case-study-youtube-doubles-down-questionable-graphic-content-enforcement-before-reversing-course-2020.shtmlFeb 17 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Study: YouTube Doubles Down On Questionable 'graphic Content' Enforcement Before Reversing Course (2020) | TechdirtFeb 17 03:02
techrights-news● NEWS ● #AralBalkan ☞ #Decentralisation begins at decentring yourself https://ar.al/2022/02/16/decentralisation-begins-at-decentring-yourself/Feb 17 03:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ar.al | Decentralisation begins at decentring yourself – Aral BalkanFeb 17 03:02
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #NASA Says 2nd Gen #Starlink Satellites Will Cause Headaches For NASA, Hubble https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220214/06250748470/nasa-says-2nd-gen-starlink-satellites-will-cause-headaches-nasa-hubble.shtmlFeb 17 03:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NASA Says 2nd Gen Starlink Satellites Will Cause Headaches For NASA, Hubble | TechdirtFeb 17 03:03
techrights-news11,305 #covid19 -linked death yesterday (USA 2,802), so anyone who says this thing is nearly over needs reality check. The businesses see people don't have much money to spend, so they don't mind killing several millions more for profit...Feb 17 03:05
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Palin ☞ Judge And Jury Say Sarah Palin Failed To Prove 'Actual Malice' In #Defamation Case Against The NY Times https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220215/16492748482/judge-jury-say-sarah-palin-failed-to-prove-actual-malice-defamation-case-against-ny-times.shtmlFeb 17 03:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Judge And Jury Say Sarah Palin Failed To Prove 'Actual Malice' In Defamation Case Against The NY Times | TechdirtFeb 17 03:06
techrights-news#gulagtube became awful https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/as-i-mourn-what-used-to-be-youtube-4175708107/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/Feb 17 03:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | TechrightsFeb 17 03:11
techrights-news"Youtube's gone the way of television. Back when I was a young 'un, an hour-long TV show was 55 minutes show, 5 minutes commercials. Not it's 44 minutes show, 16 minutes commercials." https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/as-i-mourn-what-used-to-be-youtube-4175708107/Feb 17 03:12
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*x_ is now known as kingoffranceFeb 17 03:12
techrights-news#billgates -bribed #propaganda apparatus #TheGuardian “Explaining” vaccine hesitancy by amplifying antivax #disinformation https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/02/16/guardian-explaining-vaccine-hesitancy-by-parroting-antivax-disinformation/Feb 17 03:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-respectfulinsolence.com | The Guardian: "Explaining" vaccine hesitancy by amplifying antivax disinformation - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCEFeb 17 03:21
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Disaster as "[SCAM] Music Stream" Enrages Artists By Pulling Music From #Gulagtube https://torrentfreak.com/disaster-as-nft-music-stream-enrages-artists-by-pulling-music-from-youtube-220216/Feb 17 03:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Disaster as "NFT Music Stream" Enrages Artists By Pulling Music From YouTube * TorrentFreakFeb 17 03:25
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #UploadFilter ☞ U.S. #CopyrightOffice Consultation Triggers Massive "Upload Filter" Opposition https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-copyright-office-consultation-triggers-massive-upload-filter-opposition-220216/Feb 17 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Copyright Office Consultation Triggers Massive "Upload Filter" Opposition * TorrentFreakFeb 17 03:25
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techrights-news1,720 working gemini sapsules means still about 5 per day in net gain gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiFeb 17 03:29
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #Biden Is Reportedly Requesting Over $770 Billion for Defense for 2023 https://truthout.org/articles/biden-is-reportedly-requesting-over-770-billion-for-defense-for-2023/ graft for #microsoft et al http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Feb 17 03:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Biden Is Reportedly Requesting Over $770 Billion for Defense for 2023Feb 17 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsFeb 17 03:29
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Not Just San Francisco: #Police Across the Country are Retaining and Searching #DNA of Victims and Innocent People https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/not-just-san-francisco-police-across-country-are-retaining-and-searching-dnaFeb 17 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Not Just San Francisco: Police Across the Country are Retaining and Searching DNA of Victims and Innocent People | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 17 03:31
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techrights-newsUSA has just passed 950k #covid19 -linked deaths. US #corporateMedia does not want people to point out more people die with it in February 2022 than in February 2021, based on official data. Because "open the economy"....Feb 17 03:48
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AdmFubarhttps://www.darkreading.com/dr-tech/where-ai-falls-down-in-cybersecurityFeb 17 04:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Where AI Falls Down in CybersecurityFeb 17 04:02
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Hungary ☞ Entire editorial staff of Hungarian news outlet in #Transylvania quits due to political pressure – here comes Telex's new project: Transtelex https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/16/telexs-new-project-transtelexFeb 17 04:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Entire editorial staff of Hungarian news outlet in Transylvania quits due to political pressure – here comes Telex's new project: TranstelexFeb 17 04:03
schestowitz-TRMinceR:^^Feb 17 04:03
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: HEY HIFeb 17 04:03
schestowitz-TRwe no longer use algorithms for securityFeb 17 04:03
schestowitz-TReven spamassassin now uses "HEY HI"Feb 17 04:03
techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF #FacialRecognition ☞ Privacy Experts to Federal and State Agencies: End Use of Facial Verification Services https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/privacy-experts-federal-and-state-agencies-end-use-facial-verification-services US was always ahead of the curve when it comes to abusing #PrivacyFeb 17 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Privacy Experts to Federal and State Agencies: End Use of Facial Verification Services | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 17 04:05
MinceRschestowitz-TR: i've read about it but they were stingy with detailsFeb 17 04:06
MinceRlike who owned transindex and what they didFeb 17 04:06
MinceR(i'm guessing they were owned by the same entity as index.hu, but i haven't seen any confirmation of this)Feb 17 04:06
techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, February 16, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextFeb 17 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesFeb 17 04:06
MinceR(but if so, what were they waiting for?)Feb 17 04:06
schestowitz-TRis that the hijacked site?Feb 17 04:06
techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingFeb 17 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexFeb 17 04:07
MinceRindex.hu was taken over by the communists, yesFeb 17 04:07
schestowitz-TRcommunists as in fideath loyalists?Feb 17 04:07
MinceR444.hu and telex.hu were both borne off index.hu staffers leavingFeb 17 04:07
schestowitz-TRwhy 444?Feb 17 04:07
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MinceR444.hu was founded by Peter Uj, who used to be one of the editors-in-chief of index.huFeb 17 04:08
MinceRbecause there were early signs of fideath taking overFeb 17 04:08
MinceRmaybe when index.hu came to be owned by simicska, or simicska got an option for buying itFeb 17 04:08
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Nonprofit Forced To Delete Thousands Of Court Documents Obtained With A Fee Waiver Because PACER Is Greedy And Stupid https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220212/22004048459/nonprofit-forced-to-delete-thousands-court-documents-obtained-with-fee-waiver-because-pacer-is-greedy-stupid.shtmlFeb 17 04:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nonprofit Forced To Delete Thousands Of Court Documents Obtained With A Fee Waiver Because PACER Is Greedy And Stupid | TechdirtFeb 17 04:09
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Hungary ☞ The Hungarian Academy of Sciences says it is inadmissible for the national drug authority to substitute criminal charges for scientific arguments https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/16/the-hungarian-academy-of-sciences-says-it-is-inadmissible-for-the-national-drug-authority-to-substitute-criminal-charges-for-scientific-argumentsFeb 17 04:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: The Hungarian Academy of Sciences says it is inadmissible for the national drug authority to substitute criminal charges for scientific argumentsFeb 17 04:09
MinceRlater simicska had a falling out with orban (G-Day), but index still ended up in fidSS handsFeb 17 04:09
schestowitz-TRlike linux.com with MicrosoftersFeb 17 04:10
techrights-newsUS regime: we cannot supply masks to 330,000,000 citizens, but we can give 22,000,000,000 dollars in a phony #pentagon 'contract' (bailout) to #microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Feb 17 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsFeb 17 04:16
schestowitzMicrosoft GitHub <LF shilliingFeb 17 04:21
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenBMC-2.11-ReleasedFeb 17 04:21
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DaemonFChttps://cloud.google.com/blog/products/chrome-enterprise/chrome-os-flexFeb 17 05:38
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DaemonFCschestowitz, ClownReady becomes Chrome OS Flex.Feb 17 05:38
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darwinsometimes I selected a Tech Rights page in RSS, thinking it was an article, but it turned out to be a links page, then I scrolled down several/many pages without even seeing what was mentioned, then gave upFeb 17 08:52
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schestowitz-TRhiFeb 17 09:12
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schestowitz-TRdarwin: takes effort to find the news of significance for the dayFeb 17 09:12
schestowitz-TRand not possible to name everything in the titleFeb 17 09:13
schestowitzAMD again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-ROCm-5.0.1Feb 17 09:15
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-ROCm-5.0.1Feb 17 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD ROCm 5.0.1 Released - Begins Moving HIPCC/HIPCONFIG From Perl Scripts To Binaries - PhoronixFeb 17 09:15
techrights-newsWay for #gnu #linux to become more widely used, not sold https://9to5google.com/2022/02/15/chrome-os-flex-cloudready/Feb 17 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chrome OS Flex is Google's free Chromebook converter - 9to5GoogleFeb 17 09:16
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techrights-news"As a kernel quality engineer at Red Hat, I'm often asked what I do. How does one test a kernel for quality? Testing and debugging the Linux kernel can be challenging because you can't simply attach a debugger like GDB (the GNU Project debugger) if the kernel is crashing" https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/02/17/quality-testing-linux-kernelFeb 17 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Quality testing the Linux kernel | Red Hat DeveloperFeb 17 09:17
techrights-news"Ojong is working with the #Fedora websites and apps team as an #Outreachy Intern. This blog post is her experience and project update so far." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-project-revamp-the-community-websites-and-applications-progress-update/Feb 17 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Outreachy Project "Revamp the Community Websites and Applications" progress update – Fedora Community BlogFeb 17 09:18
techrights-news"Well! The biggest update is the day and night versions have been finalized for the beta release of #Fedora 36. Obviously we chose Deepika Kurup to inspire the wallpaper and had a mind map session as well as some thumbnails that steered us in the right direction." https://www.madelinepeck.com/blog/2022/2/16/mid-february-updateFeb 17 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madelinepeck.com | Mid February Update — Madeline PeckFeb 17 09:19
techrights-news#ibm #redhad : swallow the latest buzzwords, hype, and cargo cult or stay a "dinobaby" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/9-emerging-tech-trends-it-leaders-watchFeb 17 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 9 emerging tech trends IT leaders need to watch | The Enterprisers ProjectFeb 17 09:20
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techrights-newsSysadmins spun as "SREs" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/8-reasons-site-reliability-engineer-one-most-demand-jobs-2022Feb 17 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 8 reasons site reliability engineer is one of the most in-demand jobs in 2022 | The Enterprisers ProjectFeb 17 09:21
techrights-news#BSDNow "The Birth of Unix, Help request for three big Lumina items, #FreeBSD 13 on Thinkpad T460s, #HardenedBSD January 2022 Status Report, #OPNsense 22.1 "Observant Owl" released, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/442Feb 17 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 442: Birthing UnixFeb 17 09:25
darwini have FreeBSD on T500Feb 17 09:26
darwinand FreeSlack/FreenixFeb 17 09:26
techrights-newsxkcd: Data Trap ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2582/ ䷉ #xkcdFeb 17 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Data TrapFeb 17 09:26
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schestowitz-TRdarwin: main machine?Feb 17 09:26
darwinno, my main machine is desktopFeb 17 09:27
techrights-newsAn overview of #OpenStack storage | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/openstack-storage ䷉ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 17 09:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An overview of OpenStack storage | UbuntuFeb 17 09:27
techrights-newsDave Airlie: optimizing llvmpipe vertex/fragment processing. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161559 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dave Airlie: optimizing llvmpipe vertex/fragment processing. | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:28
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darwinThunderbird Mail is no longer useful for serious system administrators nor programmers/scientists/engineers who want to get system mail--Thunderbird removed Unix MoveMail last year.  I was thinking of switching to GNOME Evolution.  Thunderbird said they did it to 'simplify' the GUI when that part was working fine and the GUI already is simpleFeb 17 09:33
schestowitz-TRyes, many extensions were killedFeb 17 09:33
schestowitz-TRbut that goes back yearsFeb 17 09:33
darwinit wasn't an extension; it's just part of how mail workedFeb 17 09:35
darwinand it's not so much extensions were killed but Thunderbird changed how it worked, and extension programmers had to change, or quit, or many quit because younger people were switching to webmail and email 'apps' (pad/tablet/phone)Feb 17 09:36
techrights-newsAt CNX Software, IAN W MORRISON (LINUXIUM) once again shilling, in exchange for a gift (an #amd box), a product which strictly comes with #microsoft #windows ... CNX Software becoming a sellout like Phoronix? http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/Feb 17 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | TechrightsFeb 17 09:36
schestowitz-TRdarwin: I used to use thunderbird a lotFeb 17 09:36
schestowitz-TRbut not anymoreFeb 17 09:37
darwindid you find anything better?Feb 17 09:37
schestowitz-TRnoFeb 17 09:37
schestowitz-TRjust more recent geckoFeb 17 09:37
schestowitz-TRwhich does not matter to meFeb 17 09:37
schestowitz-TRas I stopped using it as an rss readerFeb 17 09:37
schestowitz-TRso software I used literally 10 years ago for email was better than todayFeb 17 09:38
schestowitz-TRthey call that "progress"Feb 17 09:38
darwinyes. I still use Pale Moon as an RSS reader (after Firefox removed that)... I know not everyone who likes FSF/GNU more likes Pale Moon programmers as much, but it works well for meFeb 17 09:38
darwinFirefox was also better up to version 4. Everything after was downhillFeb 17 09:38
techrights-newsAnalysis: Will the PNR Directive entrench automated suspicion? - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/pnr-directive-eu-security-privacy-risks/ ䷉ #accessnow | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latestFeb 17 09:40
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: accessnow.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/pnr-directive-eu-security-privacy-risks/Feb 17 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Analysis: Will the PNR Directive entrench automated suspicion? - Access NowFeb 17 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsFeb 17 09:40
darwinon my family PC, Firefox was even crashing on KDE Neon (based on Ubuntu 20.04) for two or three or four months, only starting in safe mode or asking to delete all addons (not their fault.)  Ubuntu finally updated to a fixed version maybe one or two days agoFeb 17 09:41
darwinnever had I see Firefox have a problem for so longFeb 17 09:41
darwinbut that's what happens when you fire a ton of programmers/developers/engineers then raise administration's wagesFeb 17 09:42
schestowitz-TRif that ubuntu is based on debian 10Feb 17 09:42
schestowitz-TRthan firefox 91 came only recentlyFeb 17 09:42
schestowitz-TRit was 78 before thatFeb 17 09:42
darwini don't know, but I think it's on 97 nowFeb 17 09:42
schestowitz-TRthose big esr leaps are partly the fauly of mozillaFeb 17 09:43
schestowitz-TRleaping too fastFeb 17 09:43
darwini guess Ubuntu got it from DebianFeb 17 09:43
schestowitz-TRwith no regard for stable distrosFeb 17 09:43
schestowitz-TR*thenFeb 17 09:43
schestowitz-TRubuntu offers no added value anymoreFeb 17 09:43
schestowitz-TRnot even an installerFeb 17 09:44
darwini hate the installer, it doesn't even ask if you want to overwrite boot-loader, and advertises that you should use GPTFeb 17 09:44
darwinor maybe KDE Neon altered thatFeb 17 09:44
darwinKDE is fine on family Neon PC but on Slackware since KDE4 regularly stopped responding for half an hour or an hour.  I switched to XFCE but am investigating Enlightenment, CDE, NsCDE, LXDE, LXQT, and so on...Feb 17 09:46
darwinoh yeah, also Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE fork of KDE3.5) but I heard they went back to over 1000 bugs from earlier KDE3.5Feb 17 09:47
psydroid2what is Unix Movemail?Feb 17 09:48
darwini was glad to hear the news of the GNOME bullies quitting but I think there's some value in some GNOME software so am worried what might happen to GNOME Foundation (maybe they will improve though)Feb 17 09:48
darwin/var/mail or /var/spool/mailFeb 17 09:48
psydroid2does that mean the mbox archives I have in Thunderbird won't be accessible again or deleted?Feb 17 09:48
darwinwhere user mailboxes are kept in mbox formatFeb 17 09:48
darwinthey may not be accessibleFeb 17 09:49
psydroid2this is entirely the reason for using ThunderbirdFeb 17 09:49
techrights-newsFedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161560 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:49
psydroid2I don't understand what they are thinkingFeb 17 09:49
darwinMozilla probably did start out continuing Netscape mostly for Windows.  Even though Thunderbird was removed from Mozilla they don't care about Unix[-like] systems apparentlyFeb 17 09:50
psydroid2I hope there is some way to migrate/export those e-mails to a Unix mail server so I can use any client with that server before it's too lateFeb 17 09:51
techrights-news#ibm shilling #Flathub as if that's the only way to get "apps" in #gnu #linux https://opensource.com/article/22/2/installing-applications-desktop-linux"Feb 17 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A guide to installing applications on Linux | Opensource.comFeb 17 09:51
darwinis that the user-oriented flatpak stuff?Feb 17 09:52
psydroid2it looks like itFeb 17 09:52
darwini removed that from NeonFeb 17 09:52
darwinbut snapd was worse.  I don't want 500 filesystems (fs) appearing from mount command on family PC just because I installed 500 programs they and I might useFeb 17 09:53
darwinflatpak might actually be useful for average users just as long as it doesn't encourage not releasing source code. I don't know about flathub...Feb 17 09:53
darwinappimage is a little easier, but honestly, I hate all three.  I just see two would be useful for users (or three if they never use mount command)Feb 17 09:54
schestowitzhttps://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/17/beelink-gtr5-review-amd-ryzen-9-mini-pc-windows-11-ubuntu-20-04/Feb 17 09:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Beelink GTR5 Review - An AMD Ryzen 9 mini PC tested with Windows 11, Ubuntu 20.04 - CNX SoftwareFeb 17 09:55
schestowitz" With its included Windows 11 Pro license"Feb 17 09:55
darwinwell, not entirely true. Any desktop user would have /home/user/snapd always appearing, which is pretty annoyingFeb 17 09:56
schestowitz"I’d like to thank Beelink for providing the GTR5 for review. It is available from Beelink and other retailers starting at $799 and up"Feb 17 09:56
schestowitza thousand bucks to review a WINDOWS box in a "linux" siteFeb 17 09:56
techrights-news"Longtime hacker [Peter Jansen] was so impressed with a piece in The Onion from last year that he decided to build this coin-operated Texas Instruments graphing calculator console on a whim (video below the break — warning vertical orientation)." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/coin-operated-graphing-calculator-console/Feb 17 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Coin-Operated Graphing Calculator Console | HackadayFeb 17 09:57
darwini don't understand why Linus Torvalds doesn't take more control of the Linux Foundation and its sites like Linux.com, and fix all that.  I guess he has enough money anyway and it could be a hassle, but I suspect possibly (as you've implied) they're manipulating/forcing himFeb 17 09:58
techrights-news"It’s been 13 years since The 7th Guest was added to ScummVM with the Groovie 1 engine, and now we’ve finally added support for the Groovie 2 engine with all 4 games supported: The 11th Hour, Clandestiny, Tender Loving Care (CD-ROM edition), and Uncle Henry's Playhouse." https://www.scummvm.org/news/20220216/Feb 17 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scummvm.org | ScummVM :: HomeFeb 17 09:58
techrights-newsA PNG Based Circuit Simulator | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/a-png-based-circuit-simulator/ ䷉ #hackaday #pythonFeb 17 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A PNG Based Circuit Simulator | HackadayFeb 17 09:59
schestowitz-TRdarwin: " they're manipulating/forcing him"Feb 17 10:00
schestowitz-TRyes, we wrote about this many timesFeb 17 10:00
schestowitz-TRmany aspects to iFeb 17 10:00
schestowitz-TRthe trademarkFeb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TRthe gsslightingFeb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TRmaybe some blackmailFeb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TRbut he got himself into this messFeb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TRas did many others who took cash to "grow"Feb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TRat what expense?Feb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TRusually giving control to those who gave the cashFeb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TReven the fsf has had such issuesFeb 17 10:01
schestowitz-TR"even"Feb 17 10:01
darwinthat calculator console is pretty neat, I wonder if it uses TiEmu/TilEm(2)Feb 17 10:02
schestowitz-TRbetter to stay small, focused, and principledFeb 17 10:02
schestowitz-TROSDL was badFeb 17 10:02
darwinyesFeb 17 10:02
schestowitz-TRso Torvalds and all the rest quit OSDLFeb 17 10:02
schestowitz-TRbut the LF turned out to be no betterFeb 17 10:02
schestowitz-TRsame trajectoryFeb 17 10:02
schestowitz-TRStuart Cohen was visiting MicrosoftFeb 17 10:02
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161561 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:03
schestowitz-TRDirk Hondahlm ended up hopping between companies that hater Linux and doing PR for themFeb 17 10:03
schestowitz-TRwhen he left vmware weeks ago they were likely already preparing their massive smear campaighFeb 17 10:04
schestowitz-TR*campaignFeb 17 10:04
darwindo they make VirtualBox or is that different?Feb 17 10:04
schestowitz-TRa lot of the rest of the rogiianl developers (Morton, Tso) etc. ended up working for Gulag and IBMFeb 17 10:04
schestowitz-TRand now that they are "dinobabies" they cannot open their mouths much, seeing what happened to TorvaldsFeb 17 10:05
schestowitz-TRTso did put up resistance to MicrosoftFeb 17 10:05
schestowitz-TRand was singled out for attacksFeb 17 10:05
schestowitz-TRVirtualBox is oracleFeb 17 10:05
darwinwhat do you mean by 'Gulag?"Feb 17 10:05
schestowitz-TRwim works thereFeb 17 10:05
schestowitz-TRbut he tempoprarily worked for MicrosoftFeb 17 10:06
darwinGoogle?Feb 17 10:06
schestowitz-TRhe's not the #1 or #2 person in LF's boardFeb 17 10:06
schestowitz-TRyes, we call them gulag this yearFeb 17 10:06
schestowitz-TRbecause of how they treat humansFeb 17 10:06
schestowitz-TRat the moment it seems like their goal is to kill off the communitiesFeb 17 10:07
schestowitz-TRthis is the extension of the agenda to decapitate fsfFeb 17 10:07
schestowitz-TRand take from it the gnu copyrightsFeb 17 10:07
schestowitz-TRif they cannot weed out copyleft-style licensingFeb 17 10:07
schestowitz-TRgulag evenn helps microsoft with githubFeb 17 10:08
schestowitz-TRso does ibmFeb 17 10:08
schestowitz-TRLF has not made anything GPL since xenFeb 17 10:08
schestowitz-TRand that was like a decade agoFeb 17 10:08
schestowitz-TRLF outsources almost everything to microsoft (github)Feb 17 10:08
schestowitz-TRwhat all those entities have in common is strong financial relations with the US government, sometimes DaDFeb 17 10:09
schestowitz-TRand some have big contracts with themFeb 17 10:09
schestowitz-TRso just like they squashed the antiwar movementFeb 17 10:09
schestowitz-TRnot  they attempt to weed out this whole "software as communities" thingFeb 17 10:09
darwinBBIAMFeb 17 10:10
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schestowitz-TRbecause communities can make encrtion and stuff workFeb 17 10:10
schestowitz-TR*encryptionFeb 17 10:10
schestowitz-TRharder to mandate back doorsFeb 17 10:10
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schestowitz-TR[10:10] <schestowitz-TR> because communities can make encrtion and stuff workFeb 17 10:10
schestowitz-TR[10:10] <schestowitz-TR> *encryptionFeb 17 10:10
schestowitz-TR[10:10] <schestowitz-TR> harder to mandate back doorsFeb 17 10:10
schestowitz-TRthought is not only about encryptionFeb 17 10:10
schestowitz-TRit is, in genral, about control over peopleFeb 17 10:11
schestowitz-TRand the hacker culture is moving in the opposite directionFeb 17 10:11
schestowitz-TRemancipating and decentralisingFeb 17 10:11
schestowitz-TRIntel has planted a flag in risc-vFeb 17 10:12
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schestowitz-TRskype came from estonia/swedenFeb 17 10:12
schestowitz-TRof course nsa had to have thatFeb 17 10:12
schestowitz-TRadded to prism as soon as microsoft 'bought' itFeb 17 10:12
schestowitz-TRtook control of the infraFeb 17 10:12
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schestowitz-TReliminated p2pFeb 17 10:12
schestowitz-TRso they can spy on most voip calls worldwideFeb 17 10:12
darwinwhat did they plant in risc-v?Feb 17 10:13
techrights-newsWeird #Phosphor Conversion LEDs Found In Cheap LED String | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/weird-phosphor-conversion-leds-found-in-cheap-led-string/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latestFeb 17 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Weird Phosphor Conversion LEDs Found In Cheap LED String | HackadayFeb 17 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsFeb 17 10:13
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161206#comment-32807Feb 17 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: PySpectrometer on Raspberry Pi and Intel Trying to Tame RISC-V | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:14
schestowitzas for mozilla (sf area hipsters), they're in bed with gafamFeb 17 10:14
schestowitzgulag, microsoft, "meta"Feb 17 10:14
schestowitzthey are just pretending there is an "alternative"Feb 17 10:14
schestowitzthey've even managed to break encryption for email in some casesFeb 17 10:14
schestowitzedge casesFeb 17 10:14
techrights-news𝘛𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴 #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/irc-log-160222/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/irc-log-160222/Feb 17 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 | TechrightsFeb 17 10:15
schestowitz-TR[19:35] <techrights-news> CISA: the US gov. gives us MILLIONS, and the sole page cited (link) in our not-so-frequent postings is a 404, page not found https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/16/mozilla-releases-security-update-thunderbirdFeb 17 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mozilla Releases Security Update for Thunderbird   | CISAFeb 17 10:16
schestowitz-TR[19:34] <techrights-news> "Mozilla has released a security update to address a vulnerability in Thunderbird. An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system." Didn't look into it, probably some phony "web page" as an 'email' flaw https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/16/mozilla-releases-security-update-thunderbirdFeb 17 10:16
schestowitz-TR(last night)Feb 17 10:16
schestowitz-TReff actively attacked email encryptuon alsoFeb 17 10:16
schestowitz-TRalso sf-based junkFeb 17 10:16
schestowitz-TRtheir founder died, another kicked outFeb 17 10:16
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/11/05/not-the-frontier-anymore/Feb 17 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EFF Has Been Hijacked, and Just Like Mozilla and the Linux Foundation It Doesn’t Fight for What It Was Originally Made to Achieve | TechrightsFeb 17 10:17
schestowitzthey are herding people into so-called 'pentagon' so-called 'tech'Feb 17 10:17
schestowitz-TRphone "apps"Feb 17 10:17
darwinthe attack on encryption has been going on for decades. Recently I even read the biography of Douglas McIlroy, who oversaw/managed the creation of Unix, after discovering/talking about some new eyncryption or decryption in mid-to-late 1900s was visited by 'spooks.'  He's still posting on the Gmane Unix heritage newsgroupFeb 17 10:17
schestowitz-TRthey still do thisFeb 17 10:18
schestowitz-TRto people who develop ciphersFeb 17 10:18
schestowitz-TRtrying to buy them off or worserFeb 17 10:18
schestowitz-TR*worseFeb 17 10:18
schestowitz-TRgulag put fake encryption inside LinuxFeb 17 10:19
schestowitz-TRuntil the backlash had that removed months laterFeb 17 10:19
schestowitz-TRthey say encryption harms kidsFeb 17 10:20
schestowitz-TRbut those who say this are themselves harming kidsFeb 17 10:20
darwinlately Dr McIlroy and others were talking on that newsgroup that another major writer of programs on Unix, actually a woman programmer/scientist, died recently, who wrote a couple command-line calculators, some natural language processing software, and was overseeing some Unix code at some time (even in assembler, assembly, asm)Feb 17 10:22
schestowitz-TRyes, we mentioned it yesterdayFeb 17 10:23
schestowitz-TR[19:20] <techrights-news> "Longtime #Unix developer Lorinda Cherry passed away recently; among other things, she was the creator of the dc and bc utilities still in use today. See this posting from Doublas McIlroy for many more details on her life." https://lwn.net/Articles/885010/Feb 17 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lorinda Cherry RIP [LWN.net]Feb 17 10:23
schestowitz-TR[18:14] <techrights-news> #[TUHS] LorindaCherry • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161535 #UNIX #TuxMachinesFeb 17 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:23
techrights-newsLarry Makes 40% More https://assets.amuniversal.com/d2ccdb506a71013a9689005056a9545d #dilbertFeb 17 10:30
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161562 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:32
techrights-newsLinks 17/2/2022: #CloudReady is Ready (Rebranded), Quality Testing of the Linux Kernel • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/quality-testing-the-linux-kernel/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/quality-testing-the-linux-kernel/Feb 17 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/2/2022: CloudReady is Ready (Rebranded), Quality Testing of the Linux Kernel | TechrightsFeb 17 10:33
techrights-newsCryptography or #security projects that are on #microsoft #github = code that the #nsa controls. There are many different ways GitHub can (and does/will/has managed to) insert back doors, either tailored to a person or to everyone. #deletegithubFeb 17 10:35
techrights-news#microsoft #github = #1 enemy of #FreeSW at the moment; controlled by a company subsidised/bailouts out by US Army.Feb 17 10:35
techrights-news#microsoft #github = #1 enemy of #FreeSW at the moment; controlled by a company subsidised/bailed out by US Army. http://techrights.org/2021/09/05/free-software-number-1-enemy/Feb 17 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The State of Free Software | TechrightsFeb 17 10:36
darwindid you ever find a GNU/Linux or Unix/BSD/IllumOS distribution you felt okay switching to or did they all depend on GitHub/etc. somehow?Feb 17 10:37
schestowitz-TRnoFeb 17 10:37
schestowitz-TRnot muchFeb 17 10:37
schestowitz-TRbutFeb 17 10:37
schestowitz-TRfigosdev studied a lotFeb 17 10:37
darwinthe only one on FSF's approved list I ever considered was DragoraFeb 17 10:37
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/Github_Projects_on_Tiny_CoreFeb 17 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Github Projects on Tiny Core - TechrightsFeb 17 10:37
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/OctoGNU_timelineFeb 17 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OctoGNU timeline - TechrightsFeb 17 10:38
techrights-newsRMS, 2015: "GitHub does things that are quite bad for free software and is not interested in changing them. If you want to move off Savannah, please pick some other place." http://techrights.org/wiki/OctoGNU_timeline#2015Feb 17 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OctoGNU timeline - TechrightsFeb 17 10:38
techrights-news#microsoft shakes the hand of Donald #trump and any other dictator and gets bailed out http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Feb 17 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsFeb 17 10:40
techrights-news#microsoft = crime http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ digital imperialism.Feb 17 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | TechrightsFeb 17 10:41
techrights-newsJan 2022: #Microsoft Staff Trying to Subvert the Freedom of Gemini (Without Disclosure of the Paymaster) • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/01/28/microsoft-and-gemini/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/28/microsoft-and-gemini/Feb 17 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Staff Trying to Subvert the Freedom of Gemini (Without Disclosure of the Paymaster) | TechrightsFeb 17 10:42
techrights-news#ibm as alternative to #microsoft -- just like Microsoft as alternative to IBM in the 1980s -- does not liberate us. Swapping masters is a fool's errand.Feb 17 10:44
darwini took a look at gemini, and it's interesting like gopher was (I'd still consider running either or both if I wanted to host something text-only) but as a graphics/artist person, I prefer WWW, of course, without javascript & etc. (unless absolutely necessary for something else I sometimes use, but don't code myself, like GNU Social or Diaspora)Feb 17 10:44
schestowitz-TRgemini does graphics tooFeb 17 10:50
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/01/29/photography-gemini-and-geminispace/Feb 17 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Photography Hosting in Geminispace With Open/Accessible Internet and Software Freedom | TechrightsFeb 17 10:50
schestowitzgemini://botond.online/en/generative/particle-systems.gmiFeb 17 10:50
schestowitzgemini://botond.online/en/generative/l-systems.gmiFeb 17 10:51
schestowitzyou just Feb 17 10:51
schestowitz=> myphoto.pngFeb 17 10:51
schestowitzand can add captions to themFeb 17 10:51
darwinwell, that's good, but now I have so much that I always use gallery software now.  I used to use zenPHOTO, but it became too complicated/buggy, so I switched to novaGalleryFeb 17 10:54
darwinyears/decades ago SourceForge was more popular than GitHub, but then SourceForge put some kind of advertising/malware in everyone's archive files, so people migrated to GitHub, which now that owned by Microsoft, I suppose will end up even worseFeb 17 11:00
schestowitz-TRthat's not how it happenedFeb 17 11:05
schestowitz-TRI mean, that one sourceforge debacle isn't why github grewFeb 17 11:05
schestowitz-TRit did not helpFeb 17 11:05
schestowitz-TRanyway, %-wise github is losingFeb 17 11:05
schestowitz-TRafaikFeb 17 11:05
schestowitz-TRpeople look at alternativesFeb 17 11:05
darwingood; which ones are growing then?Feb 17 11:06
schestowitz-TRgitlab to some extent Feb 17 11:06
schestowitz-TRthe company went publicFeb 17 11:06
schestowitz-TRbut you don' want gitlabFeb 17 11:06
darwini don't know if it's much better or might get bought by somethingFeb 17 11:06
schestowitz-TRI looked into itFeb 17 11:06
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schestowitz-TRwe use geminiFeb 17 11:06
schestowitz-TRhi,  techrights_guest|24 Feb 17 11:06
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/gemini/Feb 17 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights on Gemini | TechrightsFeb 17 11:07
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/git/Feb 17 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Git (Self-Hosted) | TechrightsFeb 17 11:07
psydroid2Linus Torvalds did well financially for himself and his family, but at what cost?Feb 17 11:08
psydroid2now a whole new generation of people is stuck with an "ecosystem" that is ill and can't be made healthy anymoreFeb 17 11:09
psydroid2so for humanity as a whole it's becoming a net negativeFeb 17 11:09
schestowitzhttps://www.osnews.com/story/18600/richard-stallman-dont-follow-linus-torvalds/Feb 17 11:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman: Don’t Follow Linus Torvalds – OSnewsFeb 17 11:09
psydroid2is that something to be proud of or make it into the history books for?Feb 17 11:09
schestowitz-TRIDGFeb 17 11:10
schestowitz-TRoriginal broken alreadyFeb 17 11:10
schestowitzthere is still a COPY in https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/195096/stallman_want_freedom_don_t_follow_linus_torvalds/Feb 17 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.idg.com.au | Stallman: If you want freedom don't follow Linus Torvalds - PC World AustraliaFeb 17 11:10
schestowitz" I was not a hobbyist, I was a system developer employed at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab. I had little interest in 16-bit microcomputers, because the lab's PDP-10, with a memory equivalent to 2.5 megabytes, was much more fun. Pascal is both weak and inelegant compared with Lisp, our high-level language, and for things that had to be fast, assembler language was more flexible."Feb 17 11:11
schestowitz""Feb 17 11:11
schestowitz"I don't know how I would have reacted at that time if I had seen that memo. My experience at the AI lab had taught me to appreciate the spirit of sharing and free software, but I had not yet come to the conclusion that non-free (proprietary) software was an injustice. In 1976 I did not use any non-free software. It was only in 1977, when Emacs was ported to the non-free Twenex time-sharing system that I started to experience the nastiness of Feb 17 11:11
schestowitzproprietary software. After that, I needed time to recognize this as an ethical and political issue."Feb 17 11:11
schestowitz"Copyrights exist, and I have opinions about copyright law. Patents also exist, but patent law is almost completely different from copyright law. My opinions about patent law are also completely different from my opinions about copyright law. Trademark law exists too and it has nothing at all in common with copyright law or patent law. If you want to think clearly about any of these laws, the first step is firmly insisting on treating them as three Feb 17 11:12
schestowitzdifferent subjects."Feb 17 11:12
schestowitz"If you say something about "intellectual property," you are trying to generalize about three laws that are totally different. Whatever you say will be a foolish over-generalization, because that term only leads to such. I've decided to avoid that pitfall by never using the term. [See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html for more explanation.]"Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Did You Say “Intellectual Property”? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software FoundationFeb 17 11:12
schestowitzthis was 15 YEARS agoFeb 17 11:12
schestowitzhe had not altered his positionFeb 17 11:12
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schestowitzthe stance is consistentFeb 17 11:12
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/general-discussion/3320-stallman-if-you-want-freedom-don-t-follow-linus-torvalds/page3#post73329Feb 17 11:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stallman: If you want freedom don't follow Linus Torvalds - Phoronix ForumsFeb 17 11:13
schestowitz"the GPLv3 has _ZERO_ anti-drm clauses or restrictions, and the people who say that simply does not know what they are talking about."Feb 17 11:14
schestowitzdrm and tivoisation have some overlapsFeb 17 11:14
schestowitzbut not the same thingFeb 17 11:14
darwinin 2004 - '12 I was in university (after college) and the technical writing professor made us write a paper or two that got into the propaganda topic 'intellectual property.' I'd already been aware of FSF/GNU several/many years so was highly critical in my paper and she wrote in red pen 'intellectual property exists!' or something (PhD but didn't really know the laws of it like RMS does)Feb 17 11:14
schestowitz-TRit's a religionFeb 17 11:15
darwinMicrosoft is a big donor to that universityFeb 17 11:15
schestowitz-TR"IP"Feb 17 11:15
schestowitz-TRanyway, keep rebuttingFeb 17 11:16
schestowitz-TRit works, eventuallyFeb 17 11:16
schestowitz-TREPO workers stopped saying itFeb 17 11:16
schestowitz-TRor they put it in scare quotesFeb 17 11:16
schestowitz-TRas they took have realised it's a BS termFeb 17 11:16
schestowitz-TRI sometimes wonder who inspired RMS on this topicFeb 17 11:17
schestowitz-TRsurely someone...Feb 17 11:17
schestowitz-TRLemley from Stanford blasted this teerm a few years agoFeb 17 11:17
schestowitz-TRhe's like the MOST cited scholar in this domainFeb 17 11:17
schestowitz-TRand he said it's not propertyFeb 17 11:17
schestowitz-TRKinsella did a book about Intellectual MonopoliesFeb 17 11:18
techrights-newsGood News! Debian-based Lightweight Linux Distro ‘Slax’ is Still Alive • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161563 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Debian-based Lightweight Linux Distro ‘Slax’ is Still Alive | Tux MachinesFeb 17 11:18
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: worth doing video+article calling out CNX?Feb 17 11:20
psydroid2schestowitz-TR, I think soFeb 17 11:20
psydroid2I don't read the Wintel "articles"Feb 17 11:20
darwini used Slax when it was Slackware-based; now I'd just use FreeSlack/Freenix/Slackware-live depending if the hardware is open or notFeb 17 11:21
psydroid2I know perfectly well what the hardware is capable of from other sites, but that doesn't mean I'm going to buy itFeb 17 11:21
schestowitz-TRafter breakfast I'll record somethingFeb 17 11:21
schestowitz-TRso there are the paid-for reviewsFeb 17 11:21
schestowitz-TRthe "sponsored" postsFeb 17 11:21
schestowitz-TRJeanLuc doing some fluffFeb 17 11:21
schestowitz-TRanything else?Feb 17 11:21
psydroid2CNX Software was "our" site where Wintel stuff wasn't prominentFeb 17 11:22
psydroid2but if it starts promoting the same stuff it will become less valuableFeb 17 11:22
schestowitz-TRlinux gizmos is still okFeb 17 11:22
schestowitz-TRimhoFeb 17 11:22
schestowitz-TReric brown and rick lehrbaum mever sold outFeb 17 11:22
schestowitz-TR*neverFeb 17 11:23
psydroid2all the world's a Wintel box?Feb 17 11:23
psydroid2is that what we should get away from it?Feb 17 11:23
schestowitz-TRif you promote bloated systemsFeb 17 11:23
schestowitz-TRin reality, on "weak" hardware we can now do all we did 10 years agoFeb 17 11:23
schestowitz-TRbrowsing, email etc.Feb 17 11:23
schestowitz-TReven video editingFeb 17 11:23
schestowitz-TRso unless you are a "gamer" - with so-called  "gaming" peripherals - it is mootFeb 17 11:24
psydroid2I can do exactly the same things on "weak" hardwareFeb 17 11:24
schestowitz-TRthe addition of cores is just more fat on the batteryFeb 17 11:24
psydroid2as long as I stick to strictly free softwareFeb 17 11:24
schestowitz-TRno electron :DFeb 17 11:24
schestowitz-TRok, I will record after breakfastFeb 17 11:24
schestowitz-TRso outline isFeb 17 11:25
psydroid2even the electron stuff will run eventually as the "weak" hardware becomes "strong"Feb 17 11:25
schestowitz-TRsponsored, bribed-for revies, shift to wintel, microsoft fluff like phoronixFeb 17 11:25
psydroid2the writing is on the wall for "expensive" WintelFeb 17 11:25
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: there we'll have ploooooTONNEFeb 17 11:25
schestowitz-TRPalladium revisitedFeb 17 11:25
darwinAMD makes more profit than Intel now, but they're basically no betterFeb 17 11:26
schestowitz-TRwith support from gulagguyFeb 17 11:26
schestowitz-TRdarwin: yes, they have psp alsoFeb 17 11:26
schestowitz-TRand took some of the same staff onboardFeb 17 11:26
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psydroid2darwin, we talked about your problems finding a good serial or IPMI connection to manage your serverFeb 17 11:27
psydroid2it's just something that doesn't exist on x86 without expensive bandaidsFeb 17 11:27
psydroid2any server should be manageable without graphics in my opinionFeb 17 11:28
darwinit wasn't for a server, and apparently the hardware doesn't allow thoseFeb 17 11:28
schestowitz-TR(let me know if there is another aspect to be covered dre cnx)Feb 17 11:28
darwinsince it's x86(64)Feb 17 11:28
schestowitz-TR*re cnxFeb 17 11:28
darwini mean it would allow it but no BIOS maker added the featureFeb 17 11:28
psydroid2and that's because the BIOS is closed and can't be easily replaced with an open firmwareFeb 17 11:29
darwinAMD is just as bad, except certain 2010s AMD-based server system-/logic-/main-/mother-boards that can rune LibreBoot, but apparently there were some disadvantages to running LibreBoot--it didn't actually replace the BIOS and microcode (as I assumed from earlier project called LinuxBios/CoreBoot led to it) just got rid of it.  Now my T500 has no BIOS and also I read after a few/several days it will start having errorsFeb 17 11:29
psydroid2what kind of errors are those?Feb 17 11:30
psydroid2all my AMD hardware is from the BIOS eraFeb 17 11:30
darwinthe T500s start having some CPU errors after a few days, but I forgot what the description saidFeb 17 11:30
darwinsomeone on freenode #libreboot told me and/or it's on the websiteFeb 17 11:30
psydroid2in my case it's all AMD AM2 hardware from the late 2000sFeb 17 11:31
psydroid2oh, maybe it was leahFeb 17 11:31
darwini was going to buy that sort of hardware but I guess because of KDE, I thought it'd be too slow.  Even my PC from eight years ago was faster but too slow with KDEFeb 17 11:31
psydroid2you also have the microcode messFeb 17 11:31
psydroid2RISC processors don't have microcode, as far as I knowFeb 17 11:32
darwinmaybe I meant '0s--can you still get ASUS KGPE D16, etc., anywhere?Feb 17 11:32
psydroid2I think Raptor Computing Systems was selling that at the timeFeb 17 11:32
darwinLibreBoot listed at least two similar AMD-based systemboards... I would want the more powerful onesFeb 17 11:32
psydroid2but I didn't learn of the company until they were ready to ship their POWER systemsFeb 17 11:33
darwinwell that ASUS one doesn't have enough plain PCI slotsFeb 17 11:34
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psydroid2when I get the time and the tools I will try converting one of my micro-ATX boards to LibrebootFeb 17 11:36
psydroid2maybe it's even possible to put u-boot in the flash?Feb 17 11:36
*u-amarsh04 is still running a 2009 era Asus M3A78 PRO motherboardFeb 17 11:53
schestowitz-TRdone videoFeb 17 12:07
schestowitz-TR37 minsFeb 17 12:07
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psydroid2I would have done the same thing with my ASUS and ASRock motherboardsFeb 17 12:31
psydroid2but I needed a new laptop in 2016, so I bought one that comes with ME and UEFIFeb 17 12:32
psydroid2it works reasonably well nowFeb 17 12:32
psydroid2and then my uncle gave me his laptop too, because it was too cumbersome to get it running well with GNU/LinuxFeb 17 12:32
psydroid2it turned out to be a defective memory moduleFeb 17 12:33
psydroid2and 2 years ago with the onset of the pandemic I bought 3 used laptops for lighter tasksFeb 17 12:33
psydroid2€150 in totalFeb 17 12:33
psydroid2other than that I also bought a used Powermac G5, an Orange Pi and a Sun server in 2017Feb 17 12:34
psydroid2because x86 was only going to be a temporary thing while other hardware would become availableFeb 17 12:34
psydroid2fortunatately ARM laptops are becoming a thing nowFeb 17 12:34
psydroid2and hopefully RISC-V will follow soonFeb 17 12:35
psydroid2and maybe some day j-core as wellFeb 17 12:35
leahpsydroid2: machine check exception?Feb 17 12:36
leahno wait, you said amdFeb 17 12:36
leahi'm busy now, but try to catch it next time and show me. just email it to meFeb 17 12:36
psydroid2leah, I don't know, I'm not familiar with x86 beyond a little bit of assembly programming I did in the pastFeb 17 12:36
psydroid2I think it was darwin who ran into that problemFeb 17 12:37
psydroid2but I don't mind working with my older board too in the not too distant futureFeb 17 12:37
psydroid2sure, I'll send you an e-mail when I get to itFeb 17 12:37
techrights-news8 Best #FreeSW Virtual Keyboards • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161564 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 12:42
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techrights-newsTune Your Galaxy Buds With This Open Source Desktop App • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161565 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tune Your Galaxy Buds With This Open Source Desktop App | Tux MachinesFeb 17 12:43
techrights-newsA guide to installing applications on #GNULinux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161566 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide to installing applications on Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 17 12:43
bnchsvirtual keyboard on desktop?Feb 17 12:44
techrights-newsEasily Use Linux Terminal on #Android With These Apps • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161567 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Easily Use Linux Terminal on Android With These Apps | Tux MachinesFeb 17 12:44
bnchsi remember using that last time i had a broken keyboardFeb 17 12:44
bnchs"Linux commands"Feb 17 12:47
bnchslinux doesn't ship with any commands iircFeb 17 12:48
psydroid2I suppose that whatever commands linus wanted to write was already available from GNUFeb 17 12:49
psydroid2so Freax never became more than a kernelFeb 17 12:49
psydroid2a kernel for freaks, now more so than ever beforeFeb 17 12:49
bnchsalso the article just has android terminal emulatorsFeb 17 12:50
bnchswhich allows you to get access to Android's (not linux) commandsFeb 17 12:50
bnchsor BusyBox if you have that installedFeb 17 12:50
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bnchsthere's also termux, which is GNU/Linux programs ported to arm androidFeb 17 12:51
psydroid2I've used Termux beforeFeb 17 12:53
psydroid2it works, but is also limited in some waysFeb 17 12:53
psydroid2and the compiler is actually llvm/clangFeb 17 12:53
psydroid2even when you install gccFeb 17 12:53
psydroid2or "gcc"Feb 17 12:54
bnchsreally?Feb 17 12:54
psydroid2what is more interesting is that such a device could work just fine for development, if you could attach a screen, keyboard and mouse to itFeb 17 12:54
psydroid2yesFeb 17 12:54
bnchsi use termux for remote sshFeb 17 12:55
psydroid2I tried to compile some stuff on it, but it failedFeb 17 12:55
bnchsor using old phones as serversFeb 17 12:55
psydroid2because that was the fastest ARM hardware I hadFeb 17 12:55
psydroid2that phone's screen broke, so it's out of order nowFeb 17 12:55
bnchspeople have more phones than raspberry piFeb 17 12:55
bnchsi wish there was a pihole for old phonesFeb 17 12:56
psydroid2I want to see if I can fully replace the software on such old phonesFeb 17 12:56
psydroid2but it takes time, especially when it comes to porting drivers to the mainline kernelFeb 17 12:56
psydroid2also on some of my older phones the batteries are deadFeb 17 12:57
bnchsit would be more eco-friendly to use some of the existing devices rather than buying a new raspberry piFeb 17 12:57
psydroid2so I would have to order new ones and hope I didn't break the phones by using the wrong chargerFeb 17 12:57
psydroid2it would be if we got full access to the hardwareFeb 17 12:58
bnchsyesFeb 17 12:58
psydroid2but many phone manufacturers lock bootloaders down and don't give you access to specs, so it becomes much harder than just buying an SBCFeb 17 12:58
bnchsthere's manufactors like HTC that claims to unlock your bootloaderFeb 17 12:58
bnchsbut it's just a limited bootloader unlock (you can't modify certain partitions)Feb 17 12:58
psydroid2I wanted to do something with an Android TV box that was sitting here unusedFeb 17 12:59
psydroid2but then it went to a relative, so I don't have it anymoreFeb 17 12:59
bnchsi have a LG G4 that was unofficially unlockedFeb 17 12:59
bnchseverytime you start it up it says "secure boot error"Feb 17 12:59
psydroid2I would like to put mainline u-boot on themFeb 17 12:59
psydroid2yesFeb 17 13:00
bnchsbut it works afterwardsFeb 17 13:00
psydroid2I have a Samsung phone here that was used by my mom before, but I really can't do anything with itFeb 17 13:00
psydroid2so that is my Android "phone" nowFeb 17 13:00
psydroid2more like spying deviceFeb 17 13:00
bnchseveryone would have servers, if old phones could be turned into a small server like raspberry piFeb 17 13:01
psydroid2I should take some of these older phones apart and study them to find out how they really workFeb 17 13:01
bnchsi have a old samsung phone that i also unoffically unlockedFeb 17 13:01
psydroid2I think there could be a market for replacement boards or services to fully replace the software and disable some of the hardware for people who value privacy and freedomFeb 17 13:02
psydroid2Qualcomm+Knox is the "devil"Feb 17 13:02
bnchsyesFeb 17 13:02
bnchsit says knox errors in startupFeb 17 13:02
bnchsbut still worksFeb 17 13:02
psydroid2but maybe I don't know enough about unlocking even such devicesFeb 17 13:02
psydroid2I haven't been able to replace the softwareFeb 17 13:03
psydroid2let me see what model it isFeb 17 13:03
bnchspeople mostly use their phone for consumingFeb 17 13:04
psydroid2Samsung Galaxy J5 SM-J500FNFeb 17 13:04
bnchsand then they throw it out after it doesn't run their apps anymoreFeb 17 13:04
psydroid2with very limited storageFeb 17 13:04
psydroid2yesFeb 17 13:04
psydroid2that's what my mom didFeb 17 13:04
psydroid2but I use them in a different wayFeb 17 13:05
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psydroid2I don't install crap and use mostly free softwareFeb 17 13:05
psydroid2so all her old phones are surprisingly capable for meFeb 17 13:05
bnchsthe samsung phone i have is obscure and the custom ROMs were last updated in 2014Feb 17 13:05
psydroid2it's a wasteful industryFeb 17 13:05
bnchsbut the LG phone is still supported with new custom ROMs updatesFeb 17 13:06
psydroid2but they won't be able to get away with it foreverFeb 17 13:06
psydroid2new phones have laptop-level specsFeb 17 13:06
psydroid2and you don't throw your laptop out every 2-3 years eitherFeb 17 13:06
bnchsthe lg phone is very powerfulFeb 17 13:06
bnchseven though it was from 2015Feb 17 13:06
psydroid2preventing people from running actually free operating systems on these devices is the biggest crime of allFeb 17 13:07
psydroid2excellent hardware (with baseband backdoor) crippled by dodgy softwareFeb 17 13:07
bnchsi actually bricked the modem on it onceFeb 17 13:08
psydroid2if it is possible to create and sell phones, it should also be possible to create and sell PDAs with these same chipsFeb 17 13:08
psydroid2by accident?Feb 17 13:08
bnchsyesFeb 17 13:08
bnchsreflashed itFeb 17 13:08
bnchsbut didn't have audio/microphone or baseband for about a dayFeb 17 13:09
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psydroid2I was thinking that for older devices it may be worthwhile to cripple the modem on purpose and use them as PDAsFeb 17 13:10
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bnchsi found it odd that the modem partition was a MS-DOS binaryFeb 17 13:11
psydroid2especially if they only support older GSM standards that aren't in use anymoreFeb 17 13:11
psydroid2I don't know much about telecom standardsFeb 17 13:11
psydroid2yesFeb 17 13:11
psydroid2maybe the modem is based on x86?Feb 17 13:12
psydroid2I thought it was all MIPS these daysFeb 17 13:12
bnchsit's actually a FAT16 partitionFeb 17 13:12
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psydroid2I do have a small FAT32 partition on the SD card for my SBCFeb 17 13:15
psydroid2with the device tree, the kernel and the u-boot config fileFeb 17 13:15
psydroid2because I couldn't get it working with ext4Feb 17 13:15
bnchsthere's also the proprietary camera stacks and shitFeb 17 13:15
bnchssometimes there's bug and issues on themFeb 17 13:16
psydroid2and didn't bother looking into it furtherFeb 17 13:16
bnchsand you can't fix it because the devs are long-goneFeb 17 13:16
psydroid2yes, indeedFeb 17 13:16
bnchsand the company discontinued the productFeb 17 13:16
psydroid2if the hardware is worth it, those stacks could be reverse engineeredFeb 17 13:16
psydroid2but that requires effortFeb 17 13:16
psydroid2for Allwinner A64 a lot of support was reverse engineered and mainlinedFeb 17 13:17
psydroid2some things still don't work, but I'd rather run fully free software and lack some features than run some old and outdated vendor kernel with blobsFeb 17 13:17
bnchsthere's actually some camera issues reported in my phone's custom ROMsFeb 17 13:18
schestowitz-TRFAT backendFeb 17 13:18
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161568 #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:18
bnchsand they had to use workarounds because the issue required modification of the camera stackFeb 17 13:18
bnchswhich of course was proprietary and unknown developersFeb 17 13:18
psydroid2HDMI audio output is one of the things that still don't work and the wifi/bluetooth chip doesn't have support in the kernel at all and the out-of-tree driver looks abandonedFeb 17 13:18
psydroid2so I don't use the wifi on that deviceFeb 17 13:19
psydroid2yesFeb 17 13:19
psydroid2developers of those custom ROMs usually avoid the hard work of reverse engineering things and opening them up for inclusion upstreamFeb 17 13:20
psydroid2I guess it's the nature of the Android environmentFeb 17 13:20
psydroid2and it actually doesn't help upstream projectsFeb 17 13:20
psydroid2it's just a one-off device that gets released and then it's off to the next oneFeb 17 13:21
bnchslet me find the issueFeb 17 13:24
techrights-newsPULSAR: Lost Colony gets upgrades for Linux and #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/pulsar-lost-colony-gets-upgrades-for-linux-and-steam-deck ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #GamesFeb 17 13:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PULSAR: Lost Colony gets upgrades for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 13:25
techrights-newsFast-paced brutal FPS ULTRAKILL gets full controller support ready for #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/fast-paced-brutal-fps-ultrakill-gets-full-controller-support-ready-for-steam-deck ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux but #DRM ... at least it hurts WindowsFeb 17 13:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fast-paced brutal FPS ULTRAKILL gets full controller support ready for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 13:26
techrights-news"Total War: #WARHAMMER III has just released although only supported for Windows, with the #Linux release due out "in Early Spring"." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/total-war-warhammer-iii-to-release-for-linux-in-early-springFeb 17 13:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Total War: WARHAMMER III to release for Linux 'in Early Spring' | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 13:27
bnchshttps://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/issues_pie/issues/35Feb 17 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WhatsApp Camera Issue (H815) · Issue #35 · Suicide-Squirrel/issues_pie · GitHubFeb 17 13:31
bnchsthis is the issueFeb 17 13:31
schestowitz-TRgithub IS an issueFeb 17 13:31
schestowitz-TR;')Feb 17 13:31
bnchssorry but they use githubFeb 17 13:31
bnchsIn our case i can't fix it ! Issue located in our proprietary camera hal which we use from LG. it's closed source. Issue detected at : E mm-camera-sensor: sensor_pick_fill_expected_data:410ex_w:3840, ex_h:2160,ex_mode:1, ex_fps:30.000000, ex_clk:0, ex_ar: 177Feb 17 13:31
bnchsso you have to switch between front and back camFeb 17 13:33
psydroid2we can fix the code and send it upstream or create a project somewhere elseFeb 17 13:33
bnchs"proprietary camera hal"Feb 17 13:33
psydroid2but for projects that are already on github it's a bit much to force their handFeb 17 13:33
psydroid2and they won't move anywayFeb 17 13:33
bnchsthe issue is located in the camera HALFeb 17 13:33
bnchswhich means you have to have access the source code to the camera HALFeb 17 13:34
psydroid2is the image with the binaries available somewhere?Feb 17 13:35
psydroid2or those few binaries themselves?Feb 17 13:35
bnchshttps://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge/tree/android-9.0/Feb 17 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge: Based on a fork from: https://github.com/TheMuppets/proprietary_vendor_lgeFeb 17 13:35
bnchsthis is the proprietary vendor lge they mix with the ROMFeb 17 13:35
bnchshttps://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge/blob/android-9.0/g4-common/proprietary/vendor/lib/hw/camera.msm8992.soFeb 17 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-proprietary_vendor_lge/camera.msm8992.so at android-9.0 · Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge · GitHubFeb 17 13:38
psydroid2I am cloning it now, first to my Gitlab account and then to my laptopFeb 17 13:38
bnchsthis is the camera module in questionFeb 17 13:39
bnchsthat they use currentlyFeb 17 13:39
psydroid2it's an ARM EABI5 binaryFeb 17 13:42
bnchsi'm pretty sure thats not the HALFeb 17 13:45
bnchsthat's the camera HW moduleFeb 17 13:45
schestowitzgemini://kamalatta.ddnss.deFeb 17 13:46
schestowitzweather in berlinFeb 17 13:46
schestowitzgemini/gopgerFeb 17 13:46
schestowitzgemini://kamalatta.ddnss.de/wetter.txtFeb 17 13:46
psydroid2I've just run arm-linux-gnueabihf-objdump -D on it to obtain some assembly code, but I have no idea what it is supposed to doFeb 17 13:46
psydroid2I hate binary driversFeb 17 13:46
psydroid2or drivers that are only available in binary formFeb 17 13:47
bnchsoh nvm it isFeb 17 13:48
psydroid2but maybe we can figure out how to communicate with the camera hardwareFeb 17 13:48
psydroid2it's just so annoying that they do this to "protect" their "IP"Feb 17 13:48
bnchsdoes it have debug symbolsFeb 17 13:49
psydroid2I don't knowFeb 17 13:49
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▅▅▂▅▆▅▃▄▂▃▃▄▃▄▃▅▄▂▆▃▆▅▃▆▅▆▅▃▆▆▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 22.40 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂█▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▄▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 33.21▕ swarm size (avg): 270.04  ⟲Feb 17 13:50
bnchsobjdump --symsFeb 17 13:50
psydroid2no symbolsFeb 17 13:51
bnchsdamnFeb 17 13:52
psydroid2only lots of unfamiliar (to me) ARM instructionsFeb 17 13:52
psydroid2is there a way to figure out how to communicate with the camera just by setting some registers?Feb 17 13:53
bnchsrunning the SO file with vimFeb 17 13:53
bnchsi see a bunch of C++ mangled function namesFeb 17 13:54
bnchsand pthread-related functionsFeb 17 13:54
psydroid2ohFeb 17 13:54
psydroid2clearFeb 17 13:54
psydroid2oopsFeb 17 13:54
bnchsso there's alot of C++ mangled function names including C functions that the SO module usesFeb 17 13:57
bnchssuch as atoi pthreadFeb 17 13:57
psydroid2yes, I see those function namesFeb 17 13:57
psydroid2but how do you deal with garbage like this?Feb 17 13:59
bnchsvirtual int32_t qcamera::QCamera3PicChannel::stop()Feb 17 14:00
psydroid2I have no experience reverse engineering driversFeb 17 14:00
bnchsthis is a qualcom camera driverFeb 17 14:01
bnchsusually they look for a "open source" version of the driverFeb 17 14:01
bnchslike they did with the IR driverFeb 17 14:01
psydroid2and it's a userspace driver, right?Feb 17 14:01
bnchsit's a subsystemFeb 17 14:02
psydroid2and this gets called by applications?Feb 17 14:02
techrights-news#Games: Final Vendetta, PULSAR: Lost Colony, More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161569 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Final Vendetta, PULSAR: Lost Colony, More | Tux MachinesFeb 17 14:03
bnchsyesFeb 17 14:03
bnchsbut it has a buggy camera2 implementationFeb 17 14:03
bnchswhich crashes open cameraFeb 17 14:03
bnchshttps://blog.csdn.net/lintwins/article/details/49783917Feb 17 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.csdn.net | 高通820(msm8996)camera hal源码分析_lintwins的专栏-CSDN博客Feb 17 14:04
bnchssomeone claims to reverse engineer the camera halFeb 17 14:04
bnchswritten in chineseFeb 17 14:04
bnchsbut it has picturesFeb 17 14:04
techrights-newsWow. For almost a DAY now #lxer dot com is unregistered. Are the admins aware? I'm sure they are. Why is this taking soi long to rectify?Feb 17 14:05
psydroid2https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/media/v4l-drivers/qcom_camss.htmlFeb 17 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kernel.org | 24. Qualcomm Camera Subsystem driver — The Linux Kernel documentationFeb 17 14:06
psydroid2I don't know anything about v4l eitherFeb 17 14:06
psydroid2I don't know if anyone here knows ChineseFeb 17 14:06
bnchssome of the pictures seems interestingFeb 17 14:06
psydroid2but I have a friend who doesFeb 17 14:06
bnchslooks like some internal source codeFeb 17 14:06
bnchsof the camera driverFeb 17 14:06
psydroid2a few evenFeb 17 14:06
bnchsor reverse engineered whateverFeb 17 14:06
bnchs"I have read Qualcomm's camera's v4l2 driver and video codec's driver before, and haven't shared the source architecture diagram. Now first share the source architecture diagram of camera hal. Qualcomm's hal can use hal1 and hal3."Feb 17 14:08
bnchsthe title is "Qualcomm 820 (msm8996) camera hal source code analysis"Feb 17 14:09
psydroid2what is this?Feb 17 14:09
psydroid2https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/qcom/camera/+/master/msm8998/QCamera2/HAL3/QCamera3HWI.cppFeb 17 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-android.googlesource.com | msm8998/QCamera2/HAL3/QCamera3HWI.cpp - platform/hardware/qcom/camera - Git at GoogleFeb 17 14:09
psydroid2yours is msm8992Feb 17 14:10
bnchslet me take a lookFeb 17 14:11
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psydroid2I don't see anything useful hereFeb 17 14:12
psydroid2https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/qcom/bt/+/refs/heads/master/msm8992/Feb 17 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-android.googlesource.com | msm8992 - platform/hardware/qcom/bt - Git at GoogleFeb 17 14:12
bnchshttps://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/qcom/camera/+/refs/heads/master/msm8998/Android.mkFeb 17 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-android.googlesource.com | msm8998/Android.mk - platform/hardware/qcom/camera - Git at GoogleFeb 17 14:13
bnchs"MM_V4L2_DRIVER_LIST += msm8992"Feb 17 14:13
bnchsso this is some kind of all-in-one source code of the msm camera driversFeb 17 14:14
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22020747Feb 17 14:15
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psydroid2so it could be usefulFeb 17 14:19
psydroid2I don't know how old your phone is and what its specs are but maybe it can run a newer Android/LineageOS  buildFeb 17 14:24
SomeH4x0r"it can"?Feb 17 14:24
SomeH4x0rfuck AndroidFeb 17 14:25
bnchsit has support for android 10.0Feb 17 14:25
bnchsbut really i don't want toFeb 17 14:25
SomeH4x0rfind a device which isn't into this shitFeb 17 14:25
SomeH4x0rplanned obsolescence, fuck itFeb 17 14:25
psydroid2well, it would be best to just run GNU/Linux or something else on itFeb 17 14:26
SomeH4x0ryesFeb 17 14:26
bnchspostmarketOSFeb 17 14:26
psydroid2are the kernel sources available too?Feb 17 14:27
bnchshttps://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/kernel_lge_h811Feb 17 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - Suicide-Squirrel/kernel_lge_h811Feb 17 14:28
bnchseven though my device is h810, it is h811-compatibleFeb 17 14:30
psydroid2they should be close enough in practiceFeb 17 14:31
psydroid2I really dislike that drivers aren't being upstreamed, thoughFeb 17 14:31
bnchsrecently a lineageOS 17.1 rom was releasedFeb 17 14:33
bnchsthey had issues with the camera (ofc), but they fixed it (with C knowledge)Feb 17 14:34
techrights-newsThe World of ’Linux’ Through the Lens of #ZDNet in 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/zdnet-hysteria/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/zdnet-hysteria/ http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNetFeb 17 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The World of ‘Linux’ Through the Lens of ZDNet in 2022 | TechrightsFeb 17 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsFeb 17 14:36
techrights-newsTop 5 Live Streaming Application for #Ubuntu and Other #GNULinux [2022 Edition] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161570 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Live Streaming Application for Ubuntu and Other Linux [2022 Edition] | Tux MachinesFeb 17 14:38
bnchsanyway lets get back to tech!Feb 17 14:39
psydroid2we are doing tech!Feb 17 14:47
psydroid2hardcore tech evenFeb 17 14:47
psydroid2I actually got back to music a few minutes agoFeb 17 14:48
bnchsyesFeb 17 14:50
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techrights_guest|40HiFeb 17 15:09
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techrights_guest|40RMS our Lord and SaviourFeb 17 15:11
SomeH4x0rhiFeb 17 15:11
schestowitz-TR0/Feb 17 15:12
techrights_guest|40hello thereFeb 17 15:12
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schestowitz-TRnew here?Feb 17 15:16
SomeH4x0rdo techrights_guests come from some webchat?Feb 17 15:16
techrights_guest|40YeahFeb 17 15:16
schestowitz-TRyeah, it's a good way to start anywayFeb 17 15:17
schestowitz-TRto a lot of people the very concept of IRC is outlandishFeb 17 15:17
techrights_guest|40I'm writing from the webpage.Feb 17 15:18
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bnchsmy messages didn't go throughFeb 17 15:22
bnchsthanks ISP for DNS hijacking and TCP reset attacksFeb 17 15:22
bnchshow does webchat IRC work, theres no way the browser allows websites to make TCP connectionsFeb 17 15:23
techrights-newsThe C in #CNXSoftware is Not “Community” • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/Feb 17 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The C in CNX Software is Not “Community” | TechrightsFeb 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRbnchs: we could set up our own web relay for m IRCFeb 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRI looked into 3 or 4Feb 17 15:26
schestowitz-TRbut the dependencies they bring in are unwantedFeb 17 15:26
techrights_guest|40Yeah Mr. Schestowitz, I find it very complicated to use an IRC, but at least it's easy here.Feb 17 15:26
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schestowitz-TRthe backend opens a websocketFeb 17 15:27
schestowitz-TRand there are libs that deal with irc protocolFeb 17 15:27
bnchsmaybe write it for geminiFeb 17 15:27
schestowitz-TRwe have somethingFeb 17 15:27
bnchsactually impossible for geminiFeb 17 15:28
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmiFeb 17 15:28
bnchsor very diffcuitFeb 17 15:28
bnchsthere's no textfields in geminiFeb 17 15:28
schestowitzLatest chat logs for #techrights (updated every 5-10 minutes)Feb 17 15:28
schestowitzit's not impossible for geminiFeb 17 15:28
schestowitzI thought about implementing itFeb 17 15:28
bnchsyesFeb 17 15:28
bnchsbut very hardFeb 17 15:29
schestowitzgemini takes inputsFeb 17 15:29
bnchsyou would have to type parameters in the URLFeb 17 15:29
schestowitzbut our server software, agate, lacks support for cgiFeb 17 15:29
schestowitzyou could even do irc over ftpFeb 17 15:30
schestowitzlike, you upload a file with a messageFeb 17 15:30
schestowitzthen techrights-news detects new file handleFeb 17 15:30
bnchsyesFeb 17 15:31
schestowitzand cats(a) it into ii (suckless)Feb 17 15:31
bnchsbut with gemini, it's too user-unfriendlyFeb 17 15:31
bnchsimagine having to type out URLs just to send a messageFeb 17 15:31
schestowitzthe above page updates every 5 minutesFeb 17 15:31
schestowitzso hard to interactFeb 17 15:31
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/07/19/advancing-gemini/Feb 17 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Chat Over Gemini:// and Potentially IRC or Document Drops | TechrightsFeb 17 15:31
schestowitzit's more like guestbookFeb 17 15:31
schestowitzor messageboardFeb 17 15:31
schestowitznot ircFeb 17 15:32
schestowitzas you need to refresh to see what other people type inFeb 17 15:32
bnchsgemini is not ready for interactivityFeb 17 15:32
schestowitzit is not designed for itFeb 17 15:32
schestowitzthere are protocols like titan://Feb 17 15:32
schestowitzbut that's for uploads etc.Feb 17 15:32
schestowitzsparten:// alsoFeb 17 15:32
schestowitz*tanFeb 17 15:32
bnchsyou know what's better than thisFeb 17 15:33
bnchsinstead of downloading a titan or spartan clientFeb 17 15:33
bnchshow about just downloading a IRC clientFeb 17 15:33
schestowitzlagrange supports many protocolsFeb 17 15:33
schestowitzkristall can handle several too, inc. http/s with basic htmlFeb 17 15:33
schestowitzirc clients are made for one purposeFeb 17 15:34
psydroid8maybe an irc client that looks like lagrange and could be loaded as a pluginFeb 17 15:36
psydroid8just to make it fit in but otherwise not depend on geminiFeb 17 15:37
psydroid8or kristall or some other application for that matterFeb 17 15:38
schestowitz-TRwrong approachFeb 17 15:39
schestowitz-TRlet the window manager handle tasksFeb 17 15:39
psydroid8the only reason why there are web irc clients is that the web became an application platformFeb 17 15:39
schestowitz-TRrather than lump everything onto a browserFeb 17 15:39
schestowitz-TRbolted in like Communicator in Netscape NavigatorFeb 17 15:40
schestowitz-TRwhich means a flaw in the mail client requires you to get the whole Web browser againFeb 17 15:40
schestowitz-TRI mean, in Linux it's not like we have one piece of of software doing everything ;-)Feb 17 15:40
schestowitz-TRthat's a systemd problem ;-)Feb 17 15:40
bnchswiby's real-time chat websiteFeb 17 15:41
bnchsit doesn't depend on javascriptFeb 17 15:41
schestowitz-TRthere is this thing called choome OSFeb 17 15:41
bnchsit uses old HTML shitFeb 17 15:41
psydroid8I've never understood why people don't want to download a separate irc clientFeb 17 15:41
schestowitz-TRwherein there's this "everything is webapp" mindsetFeb 17 15:41
psydroid8unless they are not technically inclinedFeb 17 15:41
schestowitz-TRoffice suite? spreadsheet? that's a web app! BROWSER!Feb 17 15:41
bnchsbrowsers can only handle so muchFeb 17 15:42
psydroid8in which case you throw them a bone and make it easy to get onlineFeb 17 15:42
bnchsthere will be a limitFeb 17 15:42
bnchslike operating systems and virtual machinesFeb 17 15:42
psydroid8but if you are interested in gemini you probably know enough to use a separate clientFeb 17 15:42
psydroid8I avoid the browser as much as possibleFeb 17 15:43
psydroid8maybe that's the "app" mindset, but I'd rather call it the application mindsetFeb 17 15:43
psydroid8desktop applications that we used before lumping everything into the browserFeb 17 15:44
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schestowitz-TRthen they added deskto-side notificationsFeb 17 15:45
schestowitz-TRwhich means that some rmote site you never heard of can request control over OS-level thingsFeb 17 15:45
schestowitz-TRno more browser sandboxFeb 17 15:46
schestowitz-TRenable mcrophoneFeb 17 15:46
schestowitz-TRenable webcamFeb 17 15:46
schestowitz-TRget locationFeb 17 15:46
schestowitz-TRget screen sizeFeb 17 15:46
bnchsenable screen recordingFeb 17 15:46
bnchsenable webglFeb 17 15:46
schestowitz-TRlolFeb 17 15:46
schestowitz-TRcrash computerFeb 17 15:46
bnchsthere's an API for recording your screenFeb 17 15:46
schestowitz-TRgreat idea!Feb 17 15:47
schestowitz-TRactiveX 'standardised'Feb 17 15:47
schestowitz-TRgo to web siteFeb 17 15:47
schestowitz-TRpopup comes upFeb 17 15:47
schestowitz-TR"press here to reboot your machine'Feb 17 15:47
bnchshttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_CaptureFeb 17 15:47
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_CaptureFeb 17 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | Using the Screen Capture API - Web APIs | MDNFeb 17 15:47
*schestowitz-TR closes eyesFeb 17 15:47
bnchsofc this got disabled in user.js hacksFeb 17 15:48
bnchsreturns a NotAllowedErrorFeb 17 15:48
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bnchshttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Status_APIFeb 17 15:50
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Status_APIFeb 17 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | Battery Status API - Web APIs | MDNFeb 17 15:50
bnchsbattery APIFeb 17 15:50
bnchshttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Proximity_EventsFeb 17 15:51
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Proximity_EventsFeb 17 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | Proximity Events - Web APIs | MDNFeb 17 15:51
bnchsmotherfucking PROXIMITY APIFeb 17 15:51
bnchsso that you can know when someone is CLOSE TO THE DEVICEFeb 17 15:51
schestowitz-TRlolFeb 17 15:51
schestowitz-TRmetafoxFeb 17 15:51
schestowitz-TRnow we need api to get a 'little' recordingFeb 17 15:51
schestowitz-TRjust a littleFeb 17 15:51
schestowitz-TRto know enougn what they might want to buyFeb 17 15:52
bnchsthey're gonna use this for adsFeb 17 15:52
schestowitz-TRyou know, because "ads finance the web", according to mozilla last weekFeb 17 15:52
schestowitz-TRto paraphraseFeb 17 15:52
SomeH4x0r"buy" newspeakFeb 17 15:52
SomeH4x0rpay for accessFeb 17 15:52
bnchs"hey you! i know you're looking dumbass"Feb 17 15:52
SomeH4x0ryou "buy", then it gets revokedFeb 17 15:52
bnchshttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System_Access_APIFeb 17 15:53
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System_Access_APIFeb 17 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | File System Access API - Web APIs | MDNFeb 17 15:53
SomeH4x0rlinking all this shit to accounts, and threatening with COCs and bansFeb 17 15:53
bnchsFILE SYSTEM APIFeb 17 15:53
SomeH4x0rsocial credit-likeFeb 17 15:53
bnchsNo explaination neededFeb 17 15:53
bnchsyou can access the user's file systemFeb 17 15:53
SomeH4x0rfake AVs claimed to do it decades agoFeb 17 15:53
SomeH4x0rscanning over the webFeb 17 15:53
schestowitzhttps://www.prweek.com/article/1740679/mozilla-meta-collaborate-privacy-preserving-attribution-solutionFeb 17 15:53
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: prweek.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prweek.com/article/1740679/mozilla-meta-collaborate-privacy-preserving-attribution-solutionFeb 17 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prweek.com | Mozilla and Meta collaborate on privacy-preserving attribution solution | PR WeekFeb 17 15:53
SomeH4x0rnow it gets implemented?Feb 17 15:53
schestowitzhttps://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/privacy-preserving-attribution-for-advertising/Feb 17 15:54
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/privacy-preserving-attribution-for-advertising/Feb 17 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Privacy Preserving Attribution for AdvertisingFeb 17 15:54
schestowitz"Advertising provides critical support for the Web."Feb 17 15:54
schestowitzBombs provide critical support tooFeb 17 15:54
schestowitzlike, when you take over a countryFeb 17 15:54
bnchshttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Barcode_Detection_APIFeb 17 15:54
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Barcode_Detection_APIFeb 17 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | Barcode Detection API - Web APIs | MDNFeb 17 15:54
bnchsBarcode APIFeb 17 15:54
bnchswhy?????Feb 17 15:54
schestowitzexactly!Feb 17 15:54
schestowitzscrew wwwFeb 17 15:55
schestowitzit's doneFeb 17 15:55
bnchsthis is insaneFeb 17 15:55
schestowitzthey standarise all the malicious thingsFeb 17 15:55
schestowitzadd xFeb 17 15:55
schestowitzx " provides critical support for the Web.""Feb 17 15:55
schestowitzmeansFeb 17 15:55
schestowitzto MAGMAFeb 17 15:55
schestowitzMeta, Apple, Gulag, Microsoft, Rotten AppleFeb 17 15:55
schestowitzI did another video about gemini moments agoFeb 17 15:56
schestowitznow processingFeb 17 15:56
bnchshttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Beacon_APIFeb 17 15:56
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Beacon_APIFeb 17 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | Beacon API - Web APIs | MDNFeb 17 15:56
schestowitzwe need to promote geminiFeb 17 15:56
bnchs"send a request with no response"Feb 17 15:56
bnchs"used for analytics"Feb 17 15:56
schestowitzany time still promoting Web sites is time wasted from the POV of a future InternetFeb 17 15:56
schestowitzesp. if you are within a community that doesn't do "apps" and "likes"Feb 17 15:56
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bnchsthere's a fucking contact picker APIFeb 17 15:57
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_ConsortiumFeb 17 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium - TechrightsFeb 17 15:57
bnchsthankfully it's only implemented in CHROMIUM BROWSERSFeb 17 15:57
bnchshttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Contact_Picker_APIFeb 17 15:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | Contact Picker API - Web APIs | MDNFeb 17 15:58
bnchsjavascript is the swiss army knife of APIsFeb 17 15:59
bnchswe should have gone back to mid 2000's javascriptFeb 17 15:59
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psydroid8"open source" is in with this agendaFeb 17 16:00
psydroid8spy on anyone anywhere anytime using any meansFeb 17 16:01
psydroid8as long as there is a "business model"Feb 17 16:01
bnchsi'm pretty sure if you removed all this shitty APIsFeb 17 16:01
bnchsyou could compile the browser in less than 2 hoursFeb 17 16:01
psydroid8netsurf and falkon are ok browsersFeb 17 16:02
SomeH4x0rthe compile time depends on the hardwareFeb 17 16:02
psydroid8if you need more then you probably need something different from a browser Feb 17 16:02
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SomeH4x0rI'm not sure about Falkon. WebKit is used among a lot "lightweight" web browsers.Feb 17 16:03
bnchsyes i knowFeb 17 16:03
SomeH4x0rWebEngine/Blink is not OK at allFeb 17 16:03
psydroid8it's like abusing spreadsheet for data reportingFeb 17 16:03
bnchswebkit was used for security vulnerabilitiesFeb 17 16:03
psydroid8GNOME Web is slower than Falkon on my laptopFeb 17 16:03
techrights_guest|40And PaleMoon?Feb 17 16:04
bnchspale moon is garbage nowFeb 17 16:04
psydroid8I haven't tried that but isn't the developer of PaleMoon a bit of a jerk?Feb 17 16:04
bnchsi'm pretty sure you never heard of the story ofFeb 17 16:04
psydroid8I know the developer of ArcticFoxFeb 17 16:05
bnchstubby tobian and manchild furry against a russianFeb 17 16:05
psydroid8greygandalf on ircFeb 17 16:05
bnchsthe quest against mypalFeb 17 16:05
psydroid8rm@gnu.orgFeb 17 16:05
psydroid8maybe that's something to look intoFeb 17 16:05
bnchsmatt tobin*Feb 17 16:06
psydroid8I'll try to see what he's up toFeb 17 16:06
bnchshe got doxxed on kiwi farmsFeb 17 16:06
bnchsafter his mypal shenanigiansFeb 17 16:06
techrights_guest|40Actually i read their forum...Feb 17 16:07
psydroid8could the Gecko engine still be isolated into a library?Feb 17 16:08
bnchsthe mypal browser was just a fork of palemoon modified to run on windows xpFeb 17 16:08
psydroid8I think at this point Firefox development is more about annoying users into abandoning the browser than about being a good browser in its own rightFeb 17 16:09
techrights_guest|40And they are very strict about the Licence... (Moonchild and the Team)Feb 17 16:10
bnchsthey should only be strict about their brandingFeb 17 16:10
techrights-news#RedHat: Moving from a proprietary to an open source culture • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161571 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RedHat: Moving from a proprietary to an open source culture | Tux MachinesFeb 17 16:10
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▅▁▅▆▆▂▇▃▁▅▄▇▁▅▄▄▅▆▅▄▄▅▃▄▂▅▃▃▅▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 20.70 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂█▁▂█▂▁█▂▁▂▁█▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁█▁▁▂▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 44.91▕ swarm size (avg): 270.06  ⟲Feb 17 16:10
bnchswhen it's someone else's branding, they shouldn't make up license violations and assume bad faith to get them to remove their projectsFeb 17 16:10
techrights_guest|40bnchs i agree with you.Feb 17 16:11
bnchshttps://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/18Feb 17 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Source code is not provided · Issue #18 · Feodor2/Mypal · GitHubFeb 17 16:14
bnchsmatt tobian posts, argues about why the source tree is just a bunch of patch files instead of full source codeFeb 17 16:15
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bnchshttps://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/3Feb 17 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-license · Issue #3 · Feodor2/Mypal · GitHubFeb 17 16:16
bnchsbig wall of issueFeb 17 16:16
bnchsmoonchild and matt tobian fights against feodor2Feb 17 16:16
techrights_guest|40psydroid8 yeah google pays them to sabotage the browser (Firefox), and now here we are, with a web dominated by Gulag...Feb 17 16:17
*psydroid2 actually wishes for Firefox to just die at this pointFeb 17 16:18
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22020715Feb 17 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ouype7czrae81.jpg created on 2022-02-07 04:45:52.836599Feb 17 16:18
techrights_guest|40GoddammitFeb 17 16:18
bnchspalemoon is just copyright trollingFeb 17 16:18
psydroid2so forks don't have to chase its codebase all the timeFeb 17 16:19
bnchsand i didn't talk about how they canceled the openBSD port, because the port used system libsFeb 17 16:19
psydroid2I have a feeling that its development is only continued to annoy independent developersFeb 17 16:19
bnchsthe community openBSD port*Feb 17 16:19
psydroid2"can't have our precious codebase"Feb 17 16:19
psydroid2Audacity also did this kind of vendoring of outdated librariesFeb 17 16:20
psydroid2and they got away with it for 20 yearsFeb 17 16:20
psydroid2apart from other questionable practicesFeb 17 16:20
bnchshttps://www.palemoon.org/history.shtmlFeb 17 16:21
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: palemoon.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.palemoon.org/history.shtmlFeb 17 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.palemoon.org | Pale Moon - Project HistoryFeb 17 16:21
bnchslook at the bottomFeb 17 16:21
bnchs"2021, or: how Open Source ends"Feb 17 16:21
SomeH4x0rends?Feb 17 16:22
bnchsremember this was all because of a russian that decided to fork pale moon to make it support windows XPFeb 17 16:22
psydroid2if he wants to do so, let himFeb 17 16:23
psydroid2as if anyone sane would still be using windows XP in 2022Feb 17 16:24
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bnchsalso pale moon attempted to sabotage mypalFeb 17 16:24
bnchsby blocking them from the pale moon addons siteFeb 17 16:24
bnchshttps://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/19Feb 17 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mypal blocked from accessing addons.palemoon.org · Issue #19 · Feodor2/Mypal · GitHubFeb 17 16:24
psydroid2I know primarily about the OpenBSD issueFeb 17 16:25
psydroid2which isn't an issue, but makes a lot of good senseFeb 17 16:25
bnchsmatt tobin is a big fatass anywayFeb 17 16:26
bnchsfeodor2 forked firefox quantum and ported it to windows xpFeb 17 16:26
bnchshttps://user-images.githubusercontent.com/19492771/152347482-f51058cd-2967-4bc5-80fd-5d269c328774.pngFeb 17 16:27
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psydroid2microsoft's agenda for planned obsolescence shouldn't coincide with the agenda of free software projects to abandon those platforms microsoft deems obsoleteFeb 17 16:29
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bnchsyesFeb 17 16:31
psydroid2I was actually having trouble getting some software running on ReactOS 0.4.14 because of thatFeb 17 16:31
bnchsbut this is probably because competitionFeb 17 16:32
bnchspale moon was to be the only pale moon browserFeb 17 16:32
psydroid2but I think they use microsoft compilers that drop support for older operating systemsFeb 17 16:32
psydroid2if you stick to gcc there is no such issueFeb 17 16:32
psydroid2didn't the russian developer rename his fork to grizzly bear moon?Feb 17 16:33
bnchsnoFeb 17 16:38
bnchsswap the first letters in each words in "pale moon"Feb 17 16:38
psydroid2that should have done the jobFeb 17 16:40
bnchsmale poonFeb 17 16:41
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schestowitz-TRlolFeb 17 16:43
schestowitz-TRit is the binary versionFeb 17 16:44
schestowitz-TRi use librewolfFeb 17 16:44
schestowitz-TRrianne uses it tooFeb 17 16:44
bnchsgoodFeb 17 16:44
schestowitz-TRand loves it because it works better than ff performance-wiseFeb 17 16:44
bnchsi laugh at anyone who uses pale moonFeb 17 16:44
schestowitz-TRi tried gnu icecat around 2005 or 06Feb 17 16:45
schestowitz-TRback then konqueror was still a thingFeb 17 16:45
schestowitz-TRI still use konqueror every dayFeb 17 16:45
schestowitz-TRbut the main browser is falkonFeb 17 16:45
schestowitz-TRsometimes netsuef on the old laptopFeb 17 16:45
schestowitz-TR*netsurf Feb 17 16:45
schestowitz-TRI never used pale moonFeb 17 16:46
schestowitz-TRtechnically iceweasel was just firefox sans branding  afaikFeb 17 16:46
bnchsyou missed nothingFeb 17 16:47
bnchscreator of pale moon supports cloudflareFeb 17 16:47
techrights-newsBeen fulfilling promise to myself to produce more videos per day, even long ones. Too much stuff on the #www is a waste of time, and the vacuum of actual information can be combated by producing more oneselfFeb 17 16:47
schestowitz-TRclownflareFeb 17 16:48
schestowitz-TRthey hate meFeb 17 16:48
schestowitz-TRfor criticising themFeb 17 16:48
schestowitz-TRon technical termsFeb 17 16:48
schestowitz-TRand their workers were maybe instructed to make me insisibleFeb 17 16:48
schestowitz-TRas I am bad for their moraleFeb 17 16:48
bnchspale moon is nothing but copyright trolls, cloudflare supporters, tor hatersFeb 17 16:50
MinceRfailmoon also bans at least one extensionFeb 17 16:51
schestowitz-TRwait, let me askFeb 17 16:51
schestowitz-TRa browser does not do cdnsFeb 17 16:51
schestowitz-TRis this about dns?Feb 17 16:51
schestowitz-TRas 'secure' dns they outsource the spying from your ISP to USAFeb 17 16:52
schestowitz-TRso you get NSA/Clownflare/Comcast instead of a Moroccan ISPFeb 17 16:52
schestowitz-TRhow is that any safer?Feb 17 16:52
schestowitz-TRnobody even wants to answer this questionFeb 17 16:52
schestowitz-TRthey say, trust us!!Feb 17 16:52
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/Feb 17 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That “Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy” | TechrightsFeb 17 16:53
bnchsthe best way is to cache the DNS as much as possibleFeb 17 16:53
bnchsand talk with the DNS server lessFeb 17 16:53
bnchshttps://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/1743#issuecomment-345993097Feb 17 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Add an option to stop trusting Cloudflare certificate · Issue #1743 · mozilla-mobile/focus-android · GitHubFeb 17 16:54
bnchshttps://github.com/yacy/yacy_search_server/issues/314#issuecomment-565932097Feb 17 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ditch Github · Issue #314 · yacy/yacy_search_server · GitHubFeb 17 16:54
bnchsmoonchild supports cloudflare and hates torFeb 17 16:54
bnchs"let them be hostile against tor"Feb 17 16:54
bnchs"you don't need to use it"Feb 17 16:54
bnchsprograms and DNS resolvers should take DNS responses with a grain of saltFeb 17 16:57
bnchsand people using the DNS resolvers should be wary of the DNS provider's privacy policyFeb 17 16:57
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22020650Feb 17 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/1ivuzi95ktf81.png created on 2022-02-06 17:44:00.224937Feb 17 16:59
techrights-newsGetting Accurate News on the #Internet is Hard; From the Web It’s Even Harder • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/Feb 17 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Getting Accurate News on the Internet is Hard; From the Web It’s Even Harder | TechrightsFeb 17 17:02
techrights_guest|40bnchs Like AdGuard DNS or something?Feb 17 17:12
bnchschecked out adguard DNSFeb 17 17:15
bnchsgreeted with a software-rendered SVG animationFeb 17 17:15
bnchsthat slowed down the browserFeb 17 17:15
bnchsadguard DNS's websiteFeb 17 17:15
bnchstechrights_guest|40 DNS services can only log up to the domain requested, and IP address of whoever requested itFeb 17 17:17
techrights_guest|40OhFeb 17 17:18
techrights_guest|40bnchs InterestingFeb 17 17:23
schestowitz-TR:)Feb 17 17:23
techrights_guest|40"happy face intensifies"Feb 17 17:25
techrights_guest|40schestowitz-TR lol actually i don't know so much about network's, but i always considering it something very interestingFeb 17 17:32
techrights_guest|40 to learn.Feb 17 17:32
bnchspeople should assume that DNS service logs everythingFeb 17 17:36
bnchsand take their privacy policy with a grain of saltFeb 17 17:36
bnchsis what i meantFeb 17 17:36
psydroid2what does it take to run your own complete DNS service from home?Feb 17 17:38
psydroid2it shouldn't need that powerful hardwareFeb 17 17:38
bnchsthe question is: why would we need oneFeb 17 17:38
bnchsDNS is simply asking nameservers for directions until you get to the IP address you wantedFeb 17 17:39
techrights-newsHow to keep #apple and #microsoft awake at night? https://pocketnow.com/install-chrome-os-on-mac-or-pcFeb 17 17:39
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pocketnow.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pocketnow.com/install-chrome-os-on-mac-or-pcFeb 17 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install Chrome OS on your old Mac or PC - PocketnowFeb 17 17:39
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techrights_guest|40bnchs Danm, maybe I should stop using Adguard DNS... or they are trustworthy?Feb 17 17:41
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bnchs__they're as trustworthy as any other DNS servicesFeb 17 17:42
SomeH4x0rnot "any"Feb 17 17:42
bnchs__yesFeb 17 17:42
SomeH4x0rsomeone attacked my router in the past by insterting an evil DNS serverFeb 17 17:42
bnchs__there's some services that obey GDPRFeb 17 17:43
techrights_guest|40No TechrightsBot-tr i dont want google shit as my primary OS.Feb 17 17:43
MinceR(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTHGsjNX4BYFeb 17 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | NO TITLEFeb 17 17:43
SomeH4x0rtechrights_guest|40: they also advertise Steam shit hereFeb 17 17:43
techrights-newsOh, great. #backdoors in your #graphics handling too. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/intel-confirms-standalone-arc-graphics-due-in-q2-also-project-endgame-this-year go away, #intel http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksFeb 17 17:43
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/intel-confirms-standalone-arc-graphics-due-in-q2-also-project-endgame-this-yearFeb 17 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel confirms standalone Arc Graphics due in Q2, also 'Project Endgame' this year | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsFeb 17 17:43
bnchs__GDPR requires IP addresses to be obfuscated (replaced with a dummy IP like 127.0.0.1) or removed Feb 17 17:44
SomeH4x0rand make excuses like "let switchers run this shit on GNU/Linux"Feb 17 17:44
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bnchs__because IP address is considered personal infoFeb 17 17:44
techrights-news#Mechajammer brings tactical cyberpunk turn-based RPG pixels to Linux | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/mechajammer-brings-tactical-cyberpunk-turn-based-rpg-pixels-to-linux ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #GamesFeb 17 17:44
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techrights-newsJust get rid of the friggin' ads, #gulag https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-android-privacy-sandbox/Feb 17 17:44
SomeH4x0rGamingOnLinux is mostly evil, I thinkFeb 17 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Google Addresses Ads Privacy with Android Privacy Sandbox - Make Tech EasierFeb 17 17:45
techrights-news#Retro x86-based machine emulator #86Box v3.2 brings Linux support | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/retro-x86-based-machine-emulator-86box-32-brings-linux-support ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #LinuxFeb 17 17:45
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MinceRdoes having a kernel controlled by a "foundation" that has google as one of its platinum members count as "google shit"? :>Feb 17 17:46
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161572 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 17:46
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techrights-news"Canonical has a big week, why #bcachefs looks like it's taking another step forward, and #ChromeOS Flex for PCs is released." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147687/linux-action-news-228/Feb 17 17:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 228 | Jupiter BroadcastingFeb 17 17:47
schestowitz-TRwe could make a zemlin memeFeb 17 17:47
MinceR(on a related note, they can go stick their superheavy webshite where the sun doesn't shine)Feb 17 17:47
schestowitz-TRwith a tooth of goldFeb 17 17:47
schestowitz-TRand one of platinumFeb 17 17:47
schestowitz-TRlinked to his sponsorsFeb 17 17:47
schestowitz-TRbut it would be in bad tasteFeb 17 17:47
schestowitz-TRfor people with tooth replacementsFeb 17 17:47
schestowitz-TRsuch humour would be hard to "chew".../ or "swallow"...Feb 17 17:48
MinceRmaybe they could put a notice on that piece of shit so i can know what sort of supercomputer it needs to run their superbloated javascript that is apparently necessary to render a bunch of static logosFeb 17 17:48
bnchs__websites made with weebly are the most heaviest websites i ever seenFeb 17 17:48
schestowitz-TRwhat is weebly?Feb 17 17:48
schestowitz-TR[17:43] <techrights_guest|40> No TechrightsBot-tr i dont want google shit as my primary OS.Feb 17 17:49
bnchs__weebly is a website builderFeb 17 17:49
schestowitz-TRme neitherFeb 17 17:49
schestowitz-TRif that weakens Windows, and given crouton and crostini, we might be a step in a better directionFeb 17 17:49
schestowitz-TRlater people can replace google's bastardised 'linux' with a real thingFeb 17 17:50
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▃▄▇▃▄▂▄▅▇▅▆▅▆▃▄▃▄▆▆▅▅▃▄▆▅▃▅▅▇▆▅▃▄▂▁▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 21.18 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 21.23▕ swarm size (avg): 270.08  ⟲Feb 17 17:50
bnchs__not weeblyFeb 17 17:50
bnchs__i was talking about wixFeb 17 17:51
bnchs__their websites are heavy as shitFeb 17 17:51
techrights-newsWe need to detoxify the Internet in order for it to be useful again; at the moment the Web seems like almost a lost cause (for reasons we've noted many times before) and #GeminiSpace already provides a bit of a safe haven • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/ ䷉ #Techrights #WWW #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/Feb 17 17:51
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schestowitz-TRbnchs__: I was gonna mention wixFeb 17 17:52
bnchs__they bought out deviantart (which at the time, was pretty lightweight)Feb 17 17:52
schestowitz-TRlook at info on their gpl dispute with wordpressFeb 17 17:52
bnchs__and turned it into a big fucking messFeb 17 17:52
schestowitz-TRthey rip off gpl sofwtare I helped with in its early daysFeb 17 17:52
schestowitz-TR2004-2007Feb 17 17:52
bnchs__you can't run the site on a phone browser anymoreFeb 17 17:52
bnchs__it will fucking crashFeb 17 17:52
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wix.com#Use_of_WordPress_codeFeb 17 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Wix.com - WikipediaFeb 17 17:53
psydroid2lolFeb 17 17:53
schestowitz""Feb 17 17:53
schestowitz"In October 2016, there was a controversy over Wix's use of WordPress's GPL-licensed code.[40] In response, Avishai Abrahami, Wix's CEO, published an answer explaining which open-source code was used and how Wix collaborates with the open-source community.[41] However, it was subsequently noted that collaboration with the open-source community was not sufficient under the terms of the GPL license, which requires any code built on GPL-licensed code Feb 17 17:53
schestowitzto be released under the same license.[42]"Feb 17 17:53
bnchs__yesFeb 17 17:53
techrights-newsThe GNU/Linux userbase and the #Freesoftware “community” (as in, people who do it for ideological reasons, principles such as altruism, fun and sharing rather than purely for money) are being abandoned by the media • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/Feb 17 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The C in CNX Software is Not “Community” | TechrightsFeb 17 17:54
bnchs__ofc their transition of deviantart turning to a bloated website wasn't smoothFeb 17 17:55
schestowitz-TRdoes deviantart have art yet?Feb 17 17:55
bnchs__they added the eclipse (bloated) theme at firstFeb 17 17:55
bnchs__and allowed users to go back to the old themeFeb 17 17:56
bnchs__but then, they forced it on everyone, and removed the old theme entirelyFeb 17 17:56
techrights_guest|40schestowitz-TR no just porn and furry porn... hahahahahaFeb 17 17:56
schestowitz-TRhahaFeb 17 17:56
schestowitz-TRyeahFeb 17 17:56
schestowitz-TRsite for deviants on drugsFeb 17 17:56
bnchs__it's called (deviant)artFeb 17 17:56
bnchs__for a reasonFeb 17 17:56
bnchs__i used to go to it for openbox themesFeb 17 17:57
schestowitz-TRmore catchy than "Wanking to bunnies"Feb 17 17:57
schestowitz-TRyesFeb 17 17:57
schestowitz-TRI was gonna mentionFeb 17 17:57
bnchs__but then they locked the downloads up for users onlyFeb 17 17:58
schestowitz-TRsome decent gnu/linux desktop themes and icons were thereFeb 17 17:58
bnchs__yesFeb 17 17:58
schestowitz-TRbut then came gnome-look and kde's Feb 17 17:58
schestowitz-TRand those had higher s/n ratioFeb 17 17:58
bnchs__i found some cool openbox themes on gnome-lookFeb 17 17:59
bnchs__but then it linked to deviantartFeb 17 17:59
bnchs__and then my CPU fan started blastingFeb 17 17:59
schestowitz-TRkde's UI now links to theseFeb 17 17:59
schestowitz-TRfrom the interfaceFeb 17 17:59
schestowitz-TRlike if you add things, then narrow search by wordFeb 17 17:59
schestowitz-TRor ratings etcFeb 17 18:00
schestowitz-TRthey download an xml or similarFeb 17 18:00
schestowitz-TRand then parse that instead of doing evertything from - well, dug - web browserFeb 17 18:00
schestowitz-TR*duhFeb 17 18:00
schestowitz-TRotherwise you need to do many things from the CLI, manually..Feb 17 18:00
schestowitz-TRwhich is an obsttacle I'm glad we overcameFeb 17 18:00
schestowitz-TRsame for fetching new wallpapersFeb 17 18:01
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161573 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 18:01
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bnchs__sadFeb 17 18:02
bnchs__i registered on their site just so i could get a themeFeb 17 18:02
bnchs__it straight up asked me what am i gonna do on the siteFeb 17 18:02
bnchs__what was i*Feb 17 18:02
bnchs__btw this was a throwaway accountFeb 17 18:02
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schestowitz-TRI have just caught up with the NSA chatFeb 17 18:11
schestowitz-TRand then DNSFeb 17 18:11
schestowitz-TRprobably too late to reply to it nowFeb 17 18:11
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: not much benefit running dns from homeFeb 17 18:11
schestowitz-TRthe ISP still sees what IP address you connect toFeb 17 18:11
schestowitz-TRi think with udp and tcp/ip they cannot figure out which "port"Feb 17 18:12
schestowitz-TRwhich is mostly an abstract thingFeb 17 18:12
AdmFubarthey should only have gone up to 11   https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-warns-chrome-firefox-100-user-agents-may-break-sites/Feb 17 18:12
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schestowitz-TRalso, smaller sites change dns entries a lotFeb 17 18:12
schestowitz-TR2 days ago BT remoately rebooted m,y routerFeb 17 18:12
schestowitz-TRI had to manually alter DNS for gemini to workFeb 17 18:12
schestowitz-TRso it had downtime (ip mitmatch for a few minutes)Feb 17 18:13
bnchs__wtf is firefox 100Feb 17 18:13
schestowitz-TRif people ran dns from home downtime would be hours or days longFeb 17 18:13
bnchs__did it really reach 100 major versionsFeb 17 18:13
bnchs__that's why it's always breakingFeb 17 18:13
schestowitz-TRthere was another thing I wanted to respond to but forgotFeb 17 18:13
schestowitz-TRmaybe it was about gdpr or drmFeb 17 18:14
AdmFubarff is at 91 or so... it is rapidly approaching 100Feb 17 18:14
schestowitz-TRbut it's not important, it is an old topic nowFeb 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR91 for esrFeb 17 18:16
schestowitz-TRotherwise 97 iircFeb 17 18:16
schestowitz-TRor 96Feb 17 18:16
schestowitz-TRi wanted to say a bunch of things about how this dns debate is a decoy for mozillaFeb 17 18:16
schestowitz-TRwith their fake 'vpn privacy' they want all your paocketsFeb 17 18:17
schestowitz-TRand they want to be your isp with partners that are super-dodgyFeb 17 18:17
schestowitz-TRdns is a tiny piece of a puzzleFeb 17 18:17
psydroid2what is their financial status?Feb 17 18:17
schestowitz-TRwith certificates you can undermine the isp doing dns imposter attacksFeb 17 18:17
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: whose?Feb 17 18:18
psydroid2any ETA for when they are become insolventFeb 17 18:18
psydroid2Mozilla Corporation and FoundationFeb 17 18:18
schestowitz-TRI wanted to write tons of thingsFeb 17 18:18
schestowitz-TRabout things I did not agree withFeb 17 18:18
schestowitz-TRI was doing exercise while catching up with ircFeb 17 18:18
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: check irsFeb 17 18:18
schestowitzhttps://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/200097189Feb 17 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-projects.propublica.org | Mozilla Foundation - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublicaFeb 17 18:19
schestowitz-TR2019 (filed 2020) was lastFeb 17 18:19
schestowitz-TRopening pdf nowFeb 17 18:20
schestowitz-TRwhoa!!!Feb 17 18:20
schestowitz-TRbaker at over 4 million dollars as they say..Feb 17 18:21
schestowitz-TRit was 2 million beforFeb 17 18:21
psydroid2even though I don't like seeing Mozilla go down, they have sealed their fate by siding with the "devil"Feb 17 18:23
bnchs__mozilla corporation and foundation seems retardedFeb 17 18:26
bnchs__mozilla corporation so that they can do evil shit, foundation so that they can do good shitFeb 17 18:27
techrights_guest|40psydroid2 Mozilla Foundation "Internet For Profit Not People"Feb 17 18:27
techrights_guest|40And Corporation too.Feb 17 18:28
AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/researcher-reverses-redaction-extracts-words-from-pixelated-image/Feb 17 18:37
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techrights_guest|40Well, anyways they are not Mozilla anymore, since some assholes successfully fired Brendan Eich (the fucking founder of that foundation/corporation)Feb 17 18:38
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bnchs__brendan eich was a dumbass anywayFeb 17 18:39
bnchs__i wouldn't have hired a guy who invented javascriptFeb 17 18:39
techrights-news#Mozilla CEO Increased Her Salary From 2.5 Million Dollars to Over 3 Million in One Year (10+ Times More Than Her Peers’ Salaries) Despite Poor Performance and They Still Want Donations • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/ ䷉ #Techrights #WWW #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/Feb 17 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla CEO Increased Her Salary From 2.5 Million Dollars to Over 3 Million in One Year (10+ Times More Than Her Peers’ Salaries) Despite Poor Performance and They Still Want Donations | TechrightsFeb 17 18:40
schestowitz-TRe^^Feb 17 18:40
bnchs__"increased her salary"Feb 17 18:41
bnchs__so you mean giving herself more of the moneyFeb 17 18:41
schestowitz-TRyeahFeb 17 18:41
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schestowitz-TRI thought you were going to correct thatFeb 17 18:41
schestowitz-TRwhen you quotsd itFeb 17 18:41
schestowitz-TRlike maybe I should call her "they" or something..Feb 17 18:42
schestowitz-TRSF, so who knows..Feb 17 18:42
techrights_guest|40bnchs_ ?Feb 17 18:42
schestowitz-TRnowadays you can get COC-arsewhippedFeb 17 18:42
schestowitz-TRfor calling a woman "she"Feb 17 18:42
schestowitz-TRif she decided she is pluralFeb 17 18:42
techrights_guest|40bnchs_ Why?Feb 17 18:43
schestowitz-TR(this is not a joke)Feb 17 18:44
bnchs__i wouldn't have hire someone who invented a language with so much logic errors (mostly due to it being dynamically typed)Feb 17 18:44
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/01/14/debian-social-contract/Feb 17 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Scientific Excellence and the Debian Social Contract | TechrightsFeb 17 18:44
schestowitznorbert got in trouble for itFeb 17 18:45
schestowitzby the anti-harassment [sic] team of DebianFeb 17 18:45
bnchs__i'm not that retardedFeb 17 18:45
schestowitz-TRbyw, eich was not fired afaikFeb 17 18:45
bnchs__when a post calls her a her, i'll call her a herFeb 17 18:45
schestowitz-TRhe was removed from CEO position, or made to "resign"Feb 17 18:45
schestowitz-TRhe could probably stay in the companyFeb 17 18:45
schestowitz-TRbut after such treatment would you even wish to stay?Feb 17 18:46
schestowitz-TRnot defending himFeb 17 18:46
schestowitz-TRjust saying he was not firedFeb 17 18:46
schestowitz-TRand this upset many firefox usersFeb 17 18:46
schestowitz-TRthese past few years they sold usersFeb 17 18:46
schestowitz-TRhence revenue increaseFeb 17 18:46
schestowitz-TRthey are selling data and stuffFeb 17 18:46
schestowitz-TRfor moneyFeb 17 18:47
schestowitz-TRthey used the goodwillFeb 17 18:47
schestowitz-TRand now 'cash in' on inFeb 17 18:47
schestowitz-TRand this is not acceptableFeb 17 18:47
schestowitz-TRthe original company would be infuriatedFeb 17 18:47
techrights_guest|40I know he resign, sorry for my bad English.Feb 17 18:48
schestowitz-TRnow he has a browser for cranksaFeb 17 18:48
schestowitz-TRwith fakecoins Feb 17 18:49
schestowitz-TRa devout christaian value or whatnotFeb 17 18:49
bnchs__javascript is too bloatedFeb 17 18:49
schestowitz-TRthey too are a marketFeb 17 18:49
schestowitz-TRthe cranksFeb 17 18:49
bnchs__i would have perfered early 2000's javascriptFeb 17 18:49
bnchs__or javascript before 2010Feb 17 18:49
psydroid2or maybe no javascriptFeb 17 18:49
bnchs__javascript is useful, just don't use it too muchFeb 17 18:50
bnchs__treat it as a toolFeb 17 18:50
schestowitz"Blake Ross, one of the original creators of Firefox (it was a fork of the Mozilla Suite, which sort of continues in a badly broken state as Seamonkey….It’s no longer packaged by Debian or Ubuntu due to unfixed security flaws), ended up working at Facebook for several years, and then resigning to go work at Uber."Feb 17 18:50
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/10/19/firefox-morals/Feb 17 18:50
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techrights_guest|40schestowitz-TR yeah he resign for the pressure of some woke dumbfucks, but yeah he become lazy and greedy as hell with his new company Brave *and BrowserFeb 17 18:51
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/VlUqWBl.jpegFeb 17 18:52
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techrights_guest|40Brave is just another chrome clone with privacy patches and stuff from Ungoogle Chromiun, and yeah, the crypto shit's.Feb 17 18:55
MinceRand a native ad blockerFeb 17 18:57
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schestowitz-TRand cult of personalities (eich)Feb 17 18:59
schestowitz"get brace, own the libs!"Feb 17 18:59
schestowitz*braveFeb 17 18:59
techrights_guest|40@MincerR yeah i forget that, haha.Feb 17 18:59
schestowitz-TRMinceR: maybe a 2pac fan?Feb 17 19:00
schestowitz2Pac - Only God Can Judge Me - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5gLoEBbZNis Feb 17 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 2Pac - Only God Can Judge Me - InvidiousFeb 17 19:00
schestowitz-TRthe www is quickly becoming:Feb 17 19:01
bnchsown the librariesFeb 17 19:01
schestowitz-TR1. nginxFeb 17 19:01
schestowitz-TR2. nginc with something behind it, e.g. apacheFeb 17 19:01
schestowitz-TR3. cdnFeb 17 19:01
schestowitz-TRplus:Feb 17 19:01
schestowitz-TR1. chromeFeb 17 19:01
schestowitz-TR2. chromioum for the freedom-=deludedFeb 17 19:01
schestowitz-TR3. some kickoff of (2) with flavoursFeb 17 19:02
schestowitz-TRfor microsoft or apple or eich loversFeb 17 19:02
schestowitz-TR4. gulag-owned mozilla piece of crapFeb 17 19:02
XRevan86"1. nginx" <- Wrong, the containerisation of everything is eating the popularity away from nginx.Feb 17 19:02
schestowitz-TR5. kinockoff of (4)Feb 17 19:02
XRevan86Things like Caddy are the new hotness.Feb 17 19:02
schestowitz-TRwhich contains a lot of the same crap, see (3)Feb 17 19:02
MinceRschestowitz-TR: more of a fudge fanFeb 17 19:03
XRevan86nginx is simply the best no-nonsense server, nothing more to it.Feb 17 19:03
schestowitz-TRMinceR: right, only fudge can judge me nowFeb 17 19:03
MinceRlolFeb 17 19:03
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: i run nginx on my sbc nowFeb 17 19:04
schestowitz-TRit  powers the gemini proxy/gatewayFeb 17 19:04
XRevan86schestowitz: Sounds like a good idea.Feb 17 19:04
schestowitz-TRit was originally developed on openbsdFeb 17 19:04
MinceRhttps://youtu.be/gRhB2Oiy0Nc?t=290Feb 17 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | NO TITLEFeb 17 19:04
schestowitz-TR(not my sbc)Feb 17 19:04
MinceRhe can judge you!Feb 17 19:04
schestowitz-TRTechrights-sec: Feb 17 19:04
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: the founder of nginx quitFeb 17 19:05
schestowitz-TRnobody mentioned itFeb 17 19:05
schestowitz-TRthe media is deadFeb 17 19:05
XRevan86schestowitz: I heard actually…Feb 17 19:05
schestowitz-TRbecause you are in that nicheFeb 17 19:05
techrights_guest|40schestowitz-TR yes, i believed in him (eich), but I see that he is not as good as they said...Feb 17 19:05
schestowitz-TRdb+web+serverFeb 17 19:05
schestowitz-TRmsm said nothingFeb 17 19:06
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XRevan86https://opennet.ru/56535 well, I'm subscribed to OpenNET.Feb 17 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.opennet.ru | ??? ??? ??? ? ????? F5 Network ? ???? ??? NGINXFeb 17 19:06
schestowitz-TRin russia, OpenNET subscribed to youFeb 17 19:06
DaemonFCschestowitz, NordVPN's latest "Linux" client doesn't set the killswitch properly on boot.Feb 17 19:06
DaemonFCYou have to turn the killswitch off and on and then reconnect to a server.Feb 17 19:07
schestowitz-TRPanamaVPNFeb 17 19:07
schestowitz-TRsounds like a scmaFeb 17 19:07
schestowitz-TRlike their banksFeb 17 19:07
XRevan86schestowitz: In Linus Tech Tips, OpenNET hacks the BIOS for YOUFeb 17 19:07
bnchsproprietary software be likeFeb 17 19:07
bnchswho the fuck uses nordvpn unironicallyFeb 17 19:07
schestowitz-TRpeople who think it is nordicFeb 17 19:08
schestowitz-TRand now just a bunch of frauds like lee, who pretends to be "london"Feb 17 19:08
bnchsany VPN sponsored by youtubers is shitFeb 17 19:08
schestowitz-TRmoney down the "influencers"/..Feb 17 19:08
schestowitz-TRi.e.. drainFeb 17 19:08
schestowitz-TRmoral abyssFeb 17 19:08
schestowitz-TR"first, a word from my sponsors....Feb 17 19:08
bnchshttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=QBX84qLsjVoFeb 17 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Google Analytics is illegal, Weird Chrome OS Flex, and Proton 7 - Linux and Open Source News - InvidiousFeb 17 19:09
schestowitz-TRin my description you'll find a sea of links... followed by an actual summary full of typos"Feb 17 19:09
bnchsi like how his "news" is sandwiched between 2 sponsorsFeb 17 19:09
schestowitz-TR(I get paid for the links, not for typography)Feb 17 19:09
schestowitz-TRI saw some "privacy" channels that shilll STARTPAGE !!Feb 17 19:10
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/StartpageFeb 17 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - TechrightsFeb 17 19:10
schestowitzit's a cruel, cynical world out thereFeb 17 19:10
bnchsthats youtube for youFeb 17 19:10
schestowitzI wanted to say a lot more about mozillaFeb 17 19:10
bnchsthey will shill anything that gives them moneyFeb 17 19:10
schestowitzand forgot while cropping the PDFsFeb 17 19:10
schestowitzthat company became pure comedyFeb 17 19:11
bnchseven if it's something so utterly embarrasing like manscapeFeb 17 19:11
bnchsthis guy has both pateron and sponsorsFeb 17 19:11
schestowitzif they had 100,000,000 users and put a bounty of a data (e.g. browsing history) of each at $1Feb 17 19:11
schestowitzthat's already enough to employ like 1000 well paid engineersFeb 17 19:11
schestowitzin SF Bay AreaFeb 17 19:11
schestowitzbut at what cost to the users... sorry, CUSTOMERSFeb 17 19:11
schestowitz?Feb 17 19:12
schestowitzThis is what sums up the companyFeb 17 19:12
schestowitzand why we should help users escapeFeb 17 19:12
schestowitzsadly, thunderbird would sufferFeb 17 19:12
schestowitzimagine some poor sod in a develping country giving $10 to mozilla FOUNDATIONFeb 17 19:12
schestowitzfeeling so garatifiedFeb 17 19:13
schestowitza whole day's salaryFeb 17 19:13
schestowitzand the jaw drops when the sod realises that some corporate lawyer for Gulag and "Meta" adds that $10 to a $3,000,000+ salary (per annum, tax free)Feb 17 19:13
schestowitznot sure is ironicFeb 17 19:13
schestowitzor a movie plot for Equalizer 3Feb 17 19:14
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161574 #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:15
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bnchs__linux experiment: puts sponsors on the video, description, and commentFeb 17 19:16
schestowitz-TRyesFeb 17 19:16
schestowitz-TRnickFeb 17 19:16
schestowitz-TRhe got bannedFeb 17 19:16
bnchs__on what channelFeb 17 19:16
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155374#comment-30916Feb 17 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google/YouTube Bans GNU/Linux Channel "The Linux Experiment", Some More Videos Published | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:16
schestowitz-TRhe was shilling some laptopFeb 17 19:17
schestowitz-TRhis channel can be OK, but too much shilling for my tasteFeb 17 19:17
schestowitz-TRstillFeb 17 19:17
schestowitz-TRlike I said the other night in a video,Feb 17 19:17
schestowitz-TRiot's not OK that gulag shills epstein's enabler bill gatesFeb 17 19:17
schestowitz-TRand that's "OK"Feb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TRwhile laptop-peddling Linux channels get bannedFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TRsays a lot about who runs the gulagFeb 17 19:18
bnchs__youtubers shill bill gates, that's OKFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TRyesFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TRbill is GOODFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TRhe pays the gulagFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TRto support womenFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TRin the gulagFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TR#gatepartnerFeb 17 19:18
schestowitz-TR(no, he didn't pay me)Feb 17 19:18
bnchs__gulag?Feb 17 19:19
schestowitz-TRgoogle incFeb 17 19:19
bnchs__do you mean he pays the influncers?Feb 17 19:19
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag:_A_HistoryFeb 17 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gulag: A History - WikipediaFeb 17 19:19
bnchs__yes i know about gulagFeb 17 19:19
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/01/01/google-goolag-or-gulag/Feb 17 19:19
bnchs__but #gatespartner videos was actually bill bribing youtubersFeb 17 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In 2022 We Should Quit Calling it Google and Explain What It Has Really Become: Gulag (Goolag) | TechrightsFeb 17 19:19
schestowitzi got siik and tired of them last yearFeb 17 19:20
schestowitzpartly because of some sick shillFeb 17 19:20
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/Feb 17 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | TechrightsFeb 17 19:20
techrights-news#cisco #proprietarySofrware "A remote attacker could exploit this vulnerability to cause a denial-of-service condition." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/17/cisco-releases-security-updates-email-security-applianceFeb 17 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Cisco Releases Security Updates for Email Security Appliance | CISAFeb 17 19:21
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techrights_guest|40Bill Gates is mentally disable.Feb 17 19:22
techrights-news"A reporter interviews a #Uyghur #humanrights advocate, and uses the Otter.ai transcription app." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/possible-government-surveillance-of-the-otter-ai-transcription-app.htmlFeb 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Possible Government Surveillance of the Otter.ai Transcription App - Schneier on SecurityFeb 17 19:23
bnchs__".ai"Feb 17 19:24
bnchs__meme tldFeb 17 19:24
techrights-news#KaliLinux 2022.1 overview | The most advanced Penetration Testing Distribution - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k-J1UG6kttM ䷉ #video #invidious #gnu #linuxFeb 17 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Kali Linux 2022.1 overview | The most advanced Penetration Testing Distribution - InvidiousFeb 17 19:24
schestowitz-TRbnchs__: hey hiFeb 17 19:24
techrights-newsNSA won't tell you to discard Cisco altogether as #NSA controls #Cisco https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/17/nsa-best-practices-selecting-cisco-password-typesFeb 17 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | NSA Best Practices for Selecting Cisco Password Types | CISAFeb 17 19:26
techrights-newsEdit text on Linux with #KWrite and Kate | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/2/edit-text-linux-kde ䷉ #FreeSW #GNU #LinuxFeb 17 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Edit text on Linux with KWrite and Kate | Opensource.comFeb 17 19:27
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, NordVPN added something to their Windows client.Feb 17 19:27
DaemonFCIt keeps popping up a box pestering users to go on autopay.Feb 17 19:28
DaemonFCMeanwhile, they add bugs to the Linux one each release.Feb 17 19:28
schestowitz-TRthey're not adding bugsFeb 17 19:29
schestowitz-TRthey ARE bugsFeb 17 19:29
schestowitz-TRand you give them all your packetsFeb 17 19:29
schestowitz-TRto panamaFeb 17 19:29
schestowitz-TRand who knows who will get this trove one dayFeb 17 19:29
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Apparently, the fine from the IRS for not issuing 1099s in a timely fashion is $50 per day per account, to the person who should have issued them.Feb 17 19:29
bnchs__DaemonFC: they want autopay for a reasonFeb 17 19:29
DaemonFCFrom as widespread as this issue seems to be with Holdup, that's going to be some major fines.'Feb 17 19:30
bnchs__so that you forget about your VPN subscription and then you realize your bank account is emptyFeb 17 19:30
bnchs__don't even go on autopayFeb 17 19:30
bnchs__ever*Feb 17 19:30
DaemonFCIf the IRS talks to me about a math error or something, my reply is going to be "I did the best I could given that Uphold is in violation of the deadline for issuing 1099 forms.".Feb 17 19:30
MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/cherish-the-use.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/you-dont-know-what-you-got-til-its-gone/ )Feb 17 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | You don’t know what you got ’til it’s gone…Feb 17 19:31
DaemonFCI think my math is right though. If it isn't, it'll be plus or minus a dollar or two of income, which would not affect my taxes owed anyway.Feb 17 19:31
techrights-news#pfSense 2.6 Released, ZFS Is Now the Default File System http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161474#comment-32853Feb 17 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pfSense Plus version 22.01 and pfSense CE version 2.6.0 Software are Now Available | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:32
DaemonFCMom said that they got IRS letters all the time when she was with mom and Gonad and Dave.Feb 17 19:32
techrights_guest|40TechrightsBot-tr yup, Kali Linux best distro for test anal penetration to your systems and networks.Feb 17 19:32
techrights-newsArthur Wesley Dow’s Floating World: *Composition* (1905 edition) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/dow-composition/ ䷉ #publicdomainreview #publicdomainFeb 17 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Arthur Wesley Dow’s Floating World: *Composition* (1905 edition) – The Public Domain ReviewFeb 17 19:32
DaemonFCThey'd just send out letters saying "We owe you $100. Here." or "You owe us $300. How do you want to pay it?".Feb 17 19:32
DaemonFCThey're almost never interested in pursuing something beyond this level unless it's obvious you were trying to pull some dastardly scheme.Feb 17 19:33
DaemonFC*with dadFeb 17 19:33
schestowitz-TRpay with fakecoinFeb 17 19:33
DaemonFCOf course, she's extremely sloppy on her taxes and she's never not in trouble with the IRS.Feb 17 19:33
schestowitz-TRfor your fakevpnFeb 17 19:33
DaemonFCBut they just slap levies on her and get the money and then same time next year.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCThey never send her to prison, and sometimes it's a lot of money too.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCAt one point, she owed them over $16,000.Feb 17 19:34
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schestowitzKING CPU Michael https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Roadmap-2022-Fin-Day https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OSPray-Studio-0.10Feb 17 19:34
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Roadmap-2022-Fin-DayFeb 17 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Updates Roadmap For Arc Graphics, Sapphire Rapids, Falcon Shores - PhoronixFeb 17 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel OSPray Studio 0.10 Open-Source, Interactive Visualization Software Updated - PhoronixFeb 17 19:34
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bnchswindows would be like cartman saying he doesn't have an anal probe, and then a big ass satellite pops out of his assFeb 17 19:35
schestowitz"briefcase with "CORE" on its way, Fatima"Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCThere's no point in turning over people to the US Attorney when it's just money like this. That costs the government money. If you leave them alone and let them work, you'll get it eventually.Feb 17 19:35
techrights-newsOf course #intel has outsourced #OSPray to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware ... see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksFeb 17 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsFeb 17 19:36
techrights-newsToday Larabel runs 'ads' for #intel ... with no connection to Linux. Last paragraph: "More details on today's announcements at Intel.com." Is this an article or ad? Hard to tell anymore... http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/Feb 17 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | TechrightsFeb 17 19:37
bnchshttps://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/28/suicide-hotline-silicon-valley-privacy-debates-00002617Feb 17 19:38
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: politico.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/28/suicide-hotline-silicon-valley-privacy-debates-00002617Feb 17 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Suicide hotline shares data with for-profit spinoff, raising ethical questions - POLITICOFeb 17 19:38
techrights-newsSo #Linode is now owned by a company that spreads FUD about #freesw .... you have my sympathies if you're a Linode client. Consider alternatives...Feb 17 19:39
bnchs"Those disclosure terms also note that Meta’s Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp services can access the content of conversations taking place through those platforms. (Before this article was published, Meta confirmed that it has access to that data but says it does not use any of it, except for cases involving risk of imminent harm. After publication, WhatsApp clarified that it and Meta have no access to the contents of messages occurring viFeb 17 19:40
bnchsa WhatsApp.)"Feb 17 19:40
schestowitzbnchs: http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/crisis-text-line/Feb 17 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Crisis Text Line, a “Charity” Backed by Melinda Gates and Steve Ballmer, Collects Data From Suicidal People, Then Sells it to Advertisers and Other Third Parties | TechrightsFeb 17 19:40
DaemonFCStallman is actually wrong about IRS audits. They do focus on wealthy people.Feb 17 19:41
schestowitzsource?Feb 17 19:41
DaemonFCThey also hit up people who claim credits with high percentages of abuse.Feb 17 19:41
schestowitzpropublica claimed the oppositeFeb 17 19:41
schestowitzbuyt propublica also took bribes from bill gatesFeb 17 19:41
DaemonFCThe EITC, while claimed by people who are poor, is also a highly abused credit.Feb 17 19:41
schestowitzbased on https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.phpFeb 17 19:41
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cjr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.phpFeb 17 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalism’s Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism ReviewFeb 17 19:41
DaemonFCThe IRS says statistically, 46% of all tax returns that claim EITC have some sort of major error on them.Feb 17 19:42
DaemonFCThat's why Congress passed a law that delays your tax return and automagically has the IRS computer calculate if you got the credit right.Feb 17 19:42
DaemonFCBut making over $100,000 also doubles your risk of an audit.Feb 17 19:42
DaemonFCSince automated EITC audits count as an audit, your risk is relatively severe if you claim EITC that year or make over $100,000.Feb 17 19:43
DaemonFCThe IRS can also audit up to six years back if you made a major misrepresentation of income, which is almost certainly going to affect people with lots of income more often.Feb 17 19:43
DaemonFCFor most people, it's three years.Feb 17 19:44
DaemonFCSo the window of exposure if you make a lot of money is twice as long, with twice the risk of any particular year being called up.Feb 17 19:44
DaemonFCThe IRS doesn't audit a high percentage of returns though.Feb 17 19:44
DaemonFCIn the last decade it went from 1% of all returns in 2010, to about 0.4%-0.5% on average recently, and in 2020 it was 0.25% since COVID chased them out of the office.Feb 17 19:45
DaemonFCBut they're back, so I expect it'll return to normal as soon as they clear the backlog.Feb 17 19:45
DaemonFCBut out of those half a percent or so, a person not claiming the EITC or making a lot of money is probably at a 0.1% chance of any particular year being called up.Feb 17 19:46
DaemonFCWith an exposure of the trailing three years.Feb 17 19:46
techrights-news#PipeWire 0.3.46 Released https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/tags/0.3.46 #ibm #redhatFeb 17 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | 0.3.46 · Tags · PipeWire / pipewire · GitLabFeb 17 19:46
DaemonFCMost people who simply make a small mistake or don't claim abusive credits, have very little chance of an IRS audit. It happens. I think Stallman's argument should be that it doesn't happen often enough to keep some people honest.Feb 17 19:47
techrights-news#freesw would help the planet https://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=2496 see http://techrights.org/2022/01/24/proprietary-is-pollution/Feb 17 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.fsfe.org | Some thoughts about technological sustainability « Paul Boddie's Free Software-related blogFeb 17 19:48
DaemonFCIf they weren't off trying to implement facial recognition software, I wonder how much of their budget would be freed up.Feb 17 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Proprietary Software is Pollution | TechrightsFeb 17 19:48
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Stallman should talk about ID.me and how the IRS is trying to impose that to get at your tax records, and how it can't tell black and Asian people apart.Feb 17 19:48
DaemonFCThat's a major issue going on at the IRS, and it's technology, and it's spyware/surveillance.Feb 17 19:49
techrights-news#AccessNow thinks #ZDNet is a legit source??? Maybe it was... 2 decades ago. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNetFeb 17 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsFeb 17 19:49
DaemonFCAnd they can access state license databases whether you have REAL ID or not, so there's pretty much no reason to try to impose it.Feb 17 19:49
DaemonFCYet, they do.Feb 17 19:49
DaemonFCMany of those rioters at the Capitol were tracked down using license databases from states where REAL ID is an option, or outlawed at the state level.Feb 17 19:50
DaemonFC:)Feb 17 19:50
techrights-news#Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161575 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:50
DaemonFCObviously, the licenses we have are "good enough" to do that.Feb 17 19:50
DaemonFCSo what's with REAL ID?Feb 17 19:50
DaemonFCbbiabFeb 17 19:50
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schestowitztrollling https://lateweb.info/why-is-linux-so-bad-and-window-11-better-in-every-single-way/?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=why-is-linux-so-bad-and-window-11-better-in-every-single-wayFeb 17 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lateweb.info | Why Is Linux So Bad And Window 11 Better In Every Single Way?Feb 17 19:53
schestowitz"Going on and maybe in conclusion I want to say that Linux is a unique operating system when you want to make a server or something super secure, but for ordinary people today as a desktop graphical environment Linux just is not worth even for no money."Feb 17 19:53
schestowitzTaking screenshots of terminalFeb 17 19:54
schestowitzwith ascii artFeb 17 19:54
schestowitzyeah... gnu/linux is just some ascii stickfigureFeb 17 19:54
schestowitzreal aptFeb 17 19:54
XRevan86qpwgraph – oh cool.Feb 17 19:54
schestowitztempted to say "troll" hereFeb 17 19:54
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161576 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:57
techrights-newsMore Developers Should Use Linux. Not Sure Why They Don’t! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161577 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Developers Should Use Linux. Not Sure Why They Don’t! | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:58
techrights-news"When we need a controller of best choice, Arduino Series is best choise as it has a wide community helping new users. When you use external devices or sensors, you will need to be aware of Arduino Uno Pinout." https://peppe8o.com/arduino-uno-pinout-pins-defining/Feb 17 19:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Arduino UNO Pinout: PINS DefiningFeb 17 19:59
schestowitzhttps://www.fosslife.org/meeting-free-days-and-other-tips-productivityFeb 17 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Meeting-Free Days and Other Tips for ProductivityFeb 17 19:59
schestowitz"Feb 17 19:59
schestowitzTime spent in unnecessary meetings is killing creativity and inspiration for many of us, says Katie Sanders. Feb 17 19:59
schestowitzThis article offers expert advice for clearing your calendar and improving productivity, such as eliminating recurring meetings, keeping meetings short and small, or making an entire day meeting freeFeb 17 19:59
schestowitz"Feb 17 19:59
schestowitzmake them all meeting-freeFeb 17 20:00
schestowitzand get rid of the people who organise the meetingsFeb 17 20:00
schestowitzthey usually do nothing of value anywayFeb 17 20:00
schestowitzjust draining company budgetFeb 17 20:00
techrights-newsWhile laying off many workers the CEO of #Mozilla piled up a lot of tax-exempt cash, and it continued to increase in spite of criticism (the above isn’t even the latest; it may be a lot more by now) • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/ ䷉ #Techrights #www #firefox | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/Feb 17 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla CEO Increased Her Salary From 2.5 Million Dollars to Over 3 Million in One Year (10+ Times More Than Her Peers’ Salaries) Despite Poor Performance and They Still Want Donations | TechrightsFeb 17 20:01
techrights-news"This large pull request hopes to solve segfault at cleanup and problems with multiple charsets in multiple connections to Oracle." http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/02/please-help-test-big-pull-request-for-dbdoracle.html #deletegithub first; don't compel people to create #microsoft #proprietarySoftware (vendor lock-in, spying) accountsFeb 17 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Please help test big pull request for DBD::Oracle | dean [blogs.perl.org]Feb 17 20:03
techrights-newsPostgreSQL: PostgreSQL #JDBC 42.3.3 Released ⚓ https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-jdbc-4233-released-2410/ ䷉ #postgresqlFeb 17 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.3 ReleasedFeb 17 20:03
bnchs"big pull request"Feb 17 20:03
bnchsdoes it use rustFeb 17 20:03
bnchsi hope notFeb 17 20:03
techrights-newsHow to kill communities: "All complaints, actions, and statistics are anonymized and aggregated to protect the identities of all parties involved." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-community-code-of-conduct-committee-annual-report-for-2021-2406/ http://techrights.org/2020/01/03/linux-kernel-code-of-conduct-committee/Feb 17 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Community Code of Conduct Committee Annual Report for 2021Feb 17 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation’s Linux Kernel Code of Conduct (CoC) Committee is Now Officially Corporate | TechrightsFeb 17 20:04
techrights-news"Two weeks later, three of four peeps in my home have had it. One person has managed to avoid the virus. While none of us were really sick, it’s been real slow to entirely recover." https://euroquis.nl//blabla/2022/02/17/delay.htmlFeb 17 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | Some Delays | [bobulate]Feb 17 20:07
MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/life-is-unavailable.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/make-life-available-for-everyone/ )Feb 17 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | Make life available for everyone!Feb 17 20:09
techrights-newsThis Triple-Screen #RaspberryPi Kid's PC Packs a Lot of Tech Into a Custom Walnut Case https://www.hackster.io/news/this-triple-screen-raspberry-pi-kid-s-pc-packs-a-lot-of-tech-into-a-custom-walnut-case-9cc73922796f #gnu #linuxFeb 17 20:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Triple-Screen Raspberry Pi Kid's PC Packs a Lot of Tech Into a Custom Walnut Case - Hackster.ioFeb 17 20:09
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techrights-news#Databases: pgBackRest 2.37, CoC, JDBC, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161578 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Databases: pgBackRest 2.37, CoC, JDBC, and More | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:11
techrights-newsSPAN du jour: "CNXSoft: This is a guest post by Renato Kiss, Product Manager" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/17/iot-device-monitoring-as-a-product-reliability-improvement-tool/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/Feb 17 20:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | IoT device monitoring as a product reliability improvement tool - CNX SoftwareFeb 17 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The C in CNX Software is Not “Community” | TechrightsFeb 17 20:12
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AdmFubarbig pull request sounds a bit off color...Feb 17 21:11
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▇▆▄▁▂▂▃▄▇▆▄▆▂▆▆▅▂▄▆▂▇▅▆▆▆▃▅▆▆▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 25.40 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▂▂█▁▂██▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂█▁▂█▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 75.46▕ swarm size (avg): 270.13  ⟲Feb 17 21:51
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/Ddb5DQj.jpegFeb 17 21:52
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DaemonFCschestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/17/nordvpn-merges-with-surfshark-breaks-the-linux-client-again-starts-harassing-windows-users-to-go-on-autopay/Feb 17 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | NordVPN merges with SurfShark, breaks the “Linux” client again. Starts harassing Windows users to go on autopay. – BaronHK's RantsFeb 17 21:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, I laughed at that "tip your landlord" thing.Feb 17 22:04
DaemonFCNo option to even opt-out on the payment site. You have to click Custom Tip and then enter $0.00 every month.Feb 17 22:05
DaemonFC"Donate more money than the rent to your landlord?" Default: 25%Feb 17 22:05
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MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/no-conservatives.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/i-was-looking-for-a-more-libertarian-drink/ )Feb 17 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | I was looking for a more libertarian drink…Feb 17 22:29
schestowitzMinceR: so no manchin in itFeb 17 22:35
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techrights-newsLike Father, Like Son: How the #Trudeau Manufacture Crises to Justify “Emergency Measures” https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/like-father-like-son-how-the-trudeaus-manufacture-crises-to-justify-emergency-measures/ #canadaFeb 17 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unlimitedhangout.com | Like Father, Like Son: How the Trudeaus Manufacture Crises to Justify "Emergency Measures"Feb 17 22:38
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techrights-news#Gulag Analytics is illegal, Weird Chrome OS Flex, and Proton 7 - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QBX84qLsjVo ䷉ #video #invidiousFeb 17 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Google Analytics is illegal, Weird Chrome OS Flex, and Proton 7 - Linux and Open Source News - InvidiousFeb 17 22:39
techrights-news" #SXIV is an amazing image viewer from the suckless style of apps but it's been left by the way side and abandoned luckily a few devs wanted to keep it around and now with have SXIV the Neo Simple X Image Viewer." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ocwuA9Cs8RAFeb 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | NSXIV: The Only Image Viewer You Need - InvidiousFeb 17 22:40
techrights-newsModifying expectations! ⚓ https://ajadi-abiola.github.io/blog/Modifying-expectation ䷉ setting expectation very low by choosing #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #github for #outreachyFeb 17 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ajadi-abiola.github.io | Modifying expectations!Feb 17 22:42
techrights-news"Many musicians will be familiar with the metronome, a pendulum charged with generating a rhythmic tick to keep one’s performance in regular time. With PendulumSynth, [mrezanvari] takes the same basic pendulum but uses it in an altogether different musical way." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/pendulumsynth-ties-music-and-physics-together/Feb 17 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PendulumSynth Ties Music And Physics Together | HackadayFeb 17 22:45
techrights-news#Arduino project: Sending #MIDI Wirelessly With The NRF24L01 | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/sending-midi-wirelessly-with-the-nrf24l01/Feb 17 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sending MIDI Wirelessly With The NRF24L01 | HackadayFeb 17 22:46
techrights-news" #camera also supports the Xavier NX dev kit equipped with the similarly Linux-driven #Jetson TX2 NX module." https://linuxgizmos.com/8mp-hdr-cameras-available-in-usb-and-csi-flavors/Feb 17 22:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/8mp-hdr-cameras-available-in-usb-and-csi-flavors/ )Feb 17 22:47
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techrights-news#EasyOS cifs-utils fix plus JWM drives menu tweaks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161393#comment-32854 #gnu #linuxFeb 17 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS version 3.4 released | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:50
techrights-news"With the proliferation of cheap laser modules, it is really worth scrapping a headlight? Maybe. But it is an interesting look inside of a modern headlight, either way. We’ve peeked inside these headlights before. Maybe you can turn those old headlights into an oven." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/high-power-laser-salvaged-from-headlights/Feb 17 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-High-Power Laser Salvaged From Headlights | HackadayFeb 17 22:55
techrights-newsVideos: NSXIV, Kali Linux 2022.1, Linux Action News, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161579 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: NSXIV, Kali Linux 2022.1, Linux Action News, and More | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:55
techrights-newsContextual Policies & LAN Protection (ABE Quantum) in NoScript 11.3! https://hackademix.net/2022/02/17/contextual-policies-lan-protection-abe-quantum-in-noscript-113/ #NoScript #mozilla #firefoxFeb 17 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackademix.net » Contextual Policies & LAN Protection (ABE Quantum) in NoScript 11.3!Feb 17 22:56
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techrights-news"In a previous article, I showed you how to detect third-party vulnerabilities in Python. This article shows how to scan your #Java code for the same issues." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/find-java-vulnerabilities #programming #securityFeb 17 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to find third-party vulnerabilities in your Java code | Enable SysadminFeb 17 22:57
techrights-newsThe Electrifying Debate Around Where #Lightning Comes From | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/the-electrifying-debate-around-where-lightning-comes-from/ ䷉ #hackaday #scienceFeb 17 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Electrifying Debate Around Where Lightning Comes From | HackadayFeb 17 22:58
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techrights-news"This initiative is working on #CentOS Stream/Emerging #RHEL to make this new distribution a reality. The goal of this initiative is to prepare the ecosystem for the new CentOS Stream." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-february-14th-18th/Feb 17 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | CPE Weekly Update – Week of February 14th – 18th – Fedora Community BlogFeb 17 23:01
techrights-newsWhile #vmware runs a #hateCampaign against #linux the #ibm #redhat folks posted this https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-create-vmware-vm-template-red-hat-satellite see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/Feb 17 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to create a VMWare VM template for Red Hat SatelliteFeb 17 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Latest Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Patterns Against “Linux” (the Real Issue is Proprietary Software) | TechrightsFeb 17 23:02
techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: MIDI Hacking, Arduino, Triple-Screen Raspberry Pi, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161580 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: MIDI Hacking, Arduino, Triple-Screen Raspberry Pi, and More | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:03
psydroid8proprietary software companies helping other proprietary software companies Feb 17 23:04
schestowitz-TRyepFeb 17 23:04
schestowitz-TRredhat: linux not secureFeb 17 23:04
schestowitz-TRbuy supportFeb 17 23:05
schestowitz-TRupgrade to the next rhelFeb 17 23:05
schestowitz-TRbuy security alertsFeb 17 23:05
schestowitz-TR(upselliing)Feb 17 23:05
techrights-news#FPGA Starter Videos To Help Soften That Learning Curve | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/fpga-starter-videos-to-help-soften-that-learning-curve/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latestFeb 17 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FPGA Starter Videos To Help Soften That Learning Curve | HackadayFeb 17 23:05
psydroid8they know they have to stand together if they don't want to be annihilated by the free software juggernautFeb 17 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsFeb 17 23:05
psydroid8rhel for running oracleFeb 17 23:05
schestowitz-TRtesting: http://lxer.comFeb 17 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lxer.comFeb 17 23:06
psydroid8well no, there is free Oracle Linux for thatFeb 17 23:06
schestowitz-TRi this a dns problem in europe?Feb 17 23:06
schestowitz-TRor is this domain unregistered everywhere?Feb 17 23:06
psydroid8so no revenue for red hatFeb 17 23:06
schestowitz-TRsince more than 24 hours ago?Feb 17 23:06
psydroid8seems parked or goneFeb 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRit suggests they did not renew their domainFeb 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRok, the bot above is in trumplandFeb 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRcaliforniaFeb 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRnot sure what it gotFeb 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRfrom here (two PCs) it's always a non-siteFeb 17 23:07
schestowitz-TRparked templateFeb 17 23:07
psydroid8or did they go out of business?Feb 17 23:08
schestowitz-TRnot sureFeb 17 23:08
schestowitz-TRsomething suggests they still postedFeb 17 23:08
schestowitz-TRso I suspect something more subtle is happeningFeb 17 23:08
schestowitz-TRlike out of synch DNS somewhereFeb 17 23:08
psydroid8they wouldn't let this slip for 24 hours or moreFeb 17 23:08
techrights-news"The Raptor Lake processor family is the 13th generation of Intel Core, which is scheduled for launch later this year." https://optocrypto.com/intel-core-raptor-lake-gets-advanced-linux-support/ but #intel loves #nsa and hates #linux based on leaks: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksFeb 17 23:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-optocrypto.com | Intel Core "Raptor Lake" gets advanced Linux supportFeb 17 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsFeb 17 23:09
schestowitz-TRpsydroid8: they are a big siteFeb 17 23:10
schestowitz-TRI wrote about this publicly several times alreadyFeb 17 23:10
psydroid8someone should have picked up on it by now, if they are awareFeb 17 23:11
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.eu/InCaseYouMisse2/status/1494408024689020940#mFeb 17 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | In Case You Missed It (@InCaseYouMisse2): "techrights.org/2020/08/16/bi…" | nitterFeb 17 23:11
schestowitz-TRwell, you might sayFeb 17 23:11
schestowitz-TRthat I ought not careFeb 17 23:11
schestowitz-TRas in some sense they are "competition"Feb 17 23:11
schestowitz-TRbut stillFeb 17 23:12
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161581 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:12
techrights-news#BlueMail is available in #Zenwalk http://www.zenwalk.org/2022/02/bluemail-is-available-in-zenwalk.html #gnu #linuxFeb 17 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zenwalk.org | Zenwalk GNU Linux: BlueMail is available in ZenwalkFeb 17 23:12
psydroid8it's a complete breakdown of advertising supported journalismFeb 17 23:13
psydroid8advertisement*Feb 17 23:13
psydroid8do we even want that kind of news?Feb 17 23:13
techrights-news"This is an update to the original #Dockershim Deprecation FAQ article, published in late 2020." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/02/17/dockershim-faq/ one day it's there... and then... it's GONE! OSPS. #kubernetesFeb 17 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Updated: Dockershim Removal FAQ | KubernetesFeb 17 23:14
psydroid8you can see what it has led toFeb 17 23:14
schestowitz-TRdoes lxer do ads?Feb 17 23:14
schestowitz-TRI never saw anyFeb 17 23:14
schestowitz-TRlet me check lxer from other location... though the sites that I used to exploit for that are long goneFeb 17 23:14
psydroid8I don't think so, but I'm not sureFeb 17 23:14
psydroid8still what journalism is still left?Feb 17 23:15
psydroid8I think geminI aggregators are going to be more usefulFeb 17 23:16
psydroid8geeks to other geeks, experts to other expertsFeb 17 23:17
schestowitzhttps://www.ebool.com/alternatives/browsershotsFeb 17 23:18
-altlink_25f/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ebool.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ebool.com/alternatives/browsershotsFeb 17 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top 14 Browsershots Alternatives & Similar Services - eBoolFeb 17 23:18
schestowitz-TRthe site I used about 15 years ago is deaFeb 17 23:18
schestowitz-TRno business modelFeb 17 23:18
schestowitzhttps://www.browserling.com/browse/win/7/ie/11/http%3A%2F%2Flxer.comFeb 17 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Browserling - Live interactive cross-browser testingFeb 17 23:19
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psydroid8if it isn't back in a day or so, it's probably deadFeb 17 23:22
techrights-news#Valve clarifies how they test Native Linux or Proton for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/valve-clarifies-how-they-test-native-linux-or-proton-for-steam-deck/ ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #GamesFeb 17 23:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve clarifies how they test Native Linux or Proton for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRpsydroid8: it is more complex than thisFeb 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRas something suggests they still update itFeb 17 23:22
schestowitz-TRbut dns does not point at the right serverFeb 17 23:22
techrights-newsGodot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.3 RC 2 ⚓ https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-3-rc-2 ䷉ #godotengine #deletegithubFeb 17 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.3 RC 2Feb 17 23:23
psydroid8cracked or misconfigured dns?Feb 17 23:23
techrights-newsWhat sane person would wish to outsource such data to #gulag even for a "discount"? YOU are the product. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/google-nest-thermostat/Feb 17 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Save $30 on a Google Nest Thermostat - Make Tech EasierFeb 17 23:23
techrights-newsRetiring #Clutter - Clutter Project ⚓ https://blogs.gnome.org/clutter/2022/02/16/retiring-clutter/ ䷉ #GNOME #GNU #Linux #GTKFeb 17 23:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Retiring Clutter – Clutter ProjectFeb 17 23:24
bnchshttps://github.com/DesktopECHO/Pi-hole-for-AndroidFeb 17 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - DesktopECHO/Pi-hole-for-Android: Pi-hole + Unbound for Android · The DNS Ad-blocker for Raspberry Pi also works great in Android! · Linux Deploy image for rooted Android 4.0.3+ ARM devices.Feb 17 23:25
bnchspi hole hosting in an android phoneFeb 17 23:25
bnchsthe "app" that it uses requires android lollipop (5.0)Feb 17 23:26
techrights-news#Slax Proves You Can’t Keep a Good Linux Distri http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161563#comment-32855bution DownFeb 17 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Debian-based Lightweight Linux Distro ‘Slax’ is Still Alive | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:26
psydroid8I wonder how expensive a replacement board for an existing phone would beFeb 17 23:27
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techrights-news#NordVPN merges with SurfShark, breaks the #GNU #Linux ; client again. Starts harassing #Windows users to go on autopay. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/17/nordvpn-merges-with-surfshark-breaks-the-linux-client-again-starts-harassing-windows-users-to-go-on-autopay/ ䷉ #baronhkFeb 17 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | NordVPN merges with SurfShark, breaks the “Linux” client again. Starts harassing Windows users to go on autopay. – BaronHK's RantsFeb 17 23:28
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psydroid8the thing with phones is that they  are produced in the millions, so cost can remain lowFeb 17 23:28
techrights-news"In this video, we are looking at how to install #Minetest on #ZorinOS 16." #freesw and better than #microsoft #minecraft (IIRC also predates it) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V-PRQ_fjJi4Feb 17 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Minetest on Zorin OS 16 - InvidiousFeb 17 23:29
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I called the police on the non-emergency number to file a report. Those energy scammers are back.Feb 17 23:29
psydroid8time and effort invested in Minecraft is lostFeb 17 23:30
DaemonFCSometimes they just want to do electricity fraud and sometimes they invade your home and steal things and rape women and stuff.Feb 17 23:30
bnchsminetest was in 2010Feb 17 23:32
bnchsabout 1 year after minecraft or somethingFeb 17 23:32
schestowitz-TRwas there a prior incarnation?Feb 17 23:32
schestowitz-TRor maybe another "craft" thingFeb 17 23:33
schestowitz-TRsuch an ugly gameFeb 17 23:33
schestowitz-TRlooks like 1990sFeb 17 23:33
schestowitz-TRwhy did it catch on?Feb 17 23:33
schestowitz-TReven duke nuken looks betterFeb 17 23:33
bnchsyesFeb 17 23:33
schestowitz-TR*kemFeb 17 23:33
bnchsif you count roblox (2004) and blockland (2003?)Feb 17 23:33
techrights-news#KDE or #Krita artist Ken Vermette (kver):"This Saturday (Feb 19th) from 12:00pm to ~4:00pm EST I’ll be livestreaming preliminary work on the Plasma 5.25 wallpaper, as well as a brainstorming session for possible directions the Plasma 6 wallpapers could go. Iconography might also be a thing." https://kver.ca/2022/02/streaming-this-saturday/Feb 17 23:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kver.ca | Streaming this Saturday › Ken VermetteFeb 17 23:35
bnchss/2004/2006/Feb 17 23:35
bnchss/2003/2004/Feb 17 23:35
techrights-newsThis is an ISC command, not "LINUX" https://www.networkworld.com/article/3649730/using-the-linux-host-command-to-dig-out-dns-details.htmlFeb 17 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Using the Linux host command to dig out DNS details | Network WorldFeb 17 23:36
bnchs"Linux commands"Feb 17 23:36
bnchsholy shit Linux has no commandsFeb 17 23:36
techrights-newsWe are NOT "helping" people by calling "the whole thing" just Linux. We are CONFUSING people.Feb 17 23:36
techrights-news#Linux is just a #kernel ; this is #linuxutil (not kernel) https://bytexd.com/linux-whereis-command/Feb 17 23:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Whereis Command - ByteXDFeb 17 23:38
techrights-newsRichard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #FSF #history #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/Feb 17 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) | TechrightsFeb 17 23:39
bnchsrichard stallman?Feb 17 23:39
bnchsthose commands are linux propertyFeb 17 23:39
techrights-newsGNU Programs Aren’t “Linux Commands” But GNU Programs • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #revisionism | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/Feb 17 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU Programs Aren’t “Linux Commands” But GNU Programs | TechrightsFeb 17 23:40
schestowitz-TRbnchs: so RMS stole from torvaldsFeb 17 23:40
schestowitz-TRwhen torvalds was 13Feb 17 23:40
schestowitz-TRhe copied Linux work ;0)Feb 17 23:40
bnchswhen RMS was 10 he stole my lunch money and bought a sandwichFeb 17 23:40
psydroid8Linux commands and conquers our hearts and mindsFeb 17 23:40
techrights-news#Games: Mechajammer, 86Box, Godot, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161582 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Mechajammer, 86Box, Godot, and More | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:41
schestowitz-TR"no way this man calkled stallman made Linux"Feb 17 23:42
schestowitz-TR"because I checked wikipedia and it said Linux was created in Finland"Feb 17 23:42
schestowitz-TR[that's why RMS asks people to use the correct naming]Feb 17 23:42
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techrights-news"Every few weeks, it seems like I suddenly get the urge to do some bash scripting. And today was one of those days. I was at the office and wanted to listen to some online radio, and I thought: what I need is to create a #dmenu script for this!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZBNrHaHK3gM #gnu #linuxFeb 17 23:44
psydroid8Linux is a Finnish operating system hijacked by Americans who forcibly inserted GNU elements into itFeb 17 23:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Bash Script For Listening To Online Radio - InvidiousFeb 17 23:44
psydroid8rewrite history in AmericaFeb 17 23:44
schestowitz-TRfollowed by some ad hominemFeb 17 23:45
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schestowitz-TRBTW, the other day I linked to the site oif own leblancFeb 17 23:45
schestowitz-TRI worked with him in MCCFeb 17 23:45
schestowitz-TRhe was the maker of the first distroFeb 17 23:45
schestowitz-TRhe combined gnu and linuxFeb 17 23:45
schestowitz-TRas a phd student here iircFeb 17 23:45
schestowitz-TRno fame for himFeb 17 23:45
bnchsbill gates also combined msdos and windowsFeb 17 23:46
schestowitzhttp://people.man.ac.uk/~zlsiial/Feb 17 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.man.ac.uk | Owen Le Blanc's Home PageFeb 17 23:46
techrights-newsWhat's coming in #GoLang 1.18 [LWN] ⚓ https://lwn.net/Articles/883602/ ䷉ #LWNFeb 17 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's coming in Go 1.18 [LWN.net]Feb 17 23:49
psydroid8is he still there or is that page frozen in time?Feb 17 23:52
schestowitz-TRfrozenFeb 17 23:52
schestowitz-TRI am surprised this domain still worksFeb 17 23:52
schestowitz-TRthat page looked the same when I was about 20Feb 17 23:53
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techrights-newsRaw photo editing with RawTherapee • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161583 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raw photo editing with RawTherapee | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:54
techrights-news#PinePhone: trying out a Linux-based smartphone • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161584 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesFeb 17 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone: trying out a Linux-based smartphone | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:54
MinceRthere are many Linux-based smartphonesFeb 17 23:57
bnchsthey can't say GNU/LinuxFeb 17 23:58
techrights-newsThey're conflating Linux with various tools that have nothing to do with Linux and were not made specifically for that kernel https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-process-management/Feb 17 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Linux Process Management: The Ultimate GuideFeb 17 23:58
bnchsit's not in their DNAFeb 17 23:58
bnchspinephone is a GNU/Linux phoneFeb 17 23:58
bnchslike android is a Linux-based phoneFeb 17 23:58
MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/marinated-cooked-baby.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/11/i-remember-when-marinated-cooked-baby-was-only-3-99-a-pound/ )Feb 17 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | I remember when Marinated Cooked Baby was only $3.99 a pound…Feb 17 23:59
psydroid8If GNU had any sense, it would have been complete years agoFeb 17 23:59
psydroid8everyone knows Linux is a dead-end kernelFeb 17 23:59

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