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| DaemonFC | Man, they really do start younger and younger, don't they? | Jul 21 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | A four year old shooting at the police. FOUR! | Jul 21 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | My cousin's kid is 6 and he's still running around the house playing with toys shouting to everyone that he made a big boy poop. Meanwhile, in Chicago, they're fucking 4 and smoking crack and shooting at cops. | Jul 21 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | People wonder why I hate it here. | Jul 21 00:01 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 00:03 |
| britney | Haven't you ever seen Robocop 2? | Jul 21 00:03 |
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| britney | I wonder how many reptilians program in python | Jul 21 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Those just got worse and worse. | Jul 21 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | britney, I'm taking the 2008 Minnesota election as proof that there are lizard people. | Jul 21 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | In awarding Al Franken the contested ballot, the judge admitted that lizard people are real and Al Franken is one of them. | Jul 21 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | By simple deductive reasoning that Norm Coleman didn't get the ballot, we can conclude that Coleman isn't a lizard person. | Jul 21 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | Therefore, there's a way to flush out the lizard people. | Jul 21 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | In every election on the ballot that has a Write-In candidate, we need to either start a Write-In campaign to put "Lizard Person" in the space provided and then checkmark all of the listed candidates. | Jul 21 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | Then we force a recount and see which "person" the judge awards the ballot to, and they're the Lizard Person, because the law says the intent of the voter is what should prevail. | Jul 21 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Jul 21 00:15 |
| britney | DaemonFC, fair enough | Jul 21 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Only one person needs to have put "Lizard Person" in order to contest the ballot during a recount and see how the judge rules. | Jul 21 00:16 |
| britney | I think there are two major factors in lizard people | Jul 21 00:16 |
| britney | global warming - reptilians want it warm | Jul 21 00:16 |
| britney | eating bugs - the world economic forum is now promoting bugs to eat | Jul 21 00:17 |
| britney | reptiles like bugs | Jul 21 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | In a Ranked Choice Voting system, like Maine's, you could vote Lizard Person, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian.......or is that Lizardtarian? | Jul 21 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | We'll just have to see who they award it to. | Jul 21 00:17 |
| britney | https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/reptilian-agenda.html | Jul 21 00:17 |
| MinceR | 21 011241 < DaemonFC> In awarding Al Franken the contested ballot, the judge admitted that lizard people are real and Al Franken is one of them. | Jul 21 00:17 |
| MinceR | i wonder how that works | Jul 21 00:17 |
| britney | Roy's bot is still broken lol | Jul 21 00:18 |
| MinceR | if there were two votes for two different people, even with one of them crossed out, it would have been an invalid vote, but since both votes are for the same person, it counts? | Jul 21 00:18 |
| MinceR | Lizardarian... wait, no, that's someone who eats lizards | Jul 21 00:19 |
| britney | schestowitz-TR, i broke TechrightsBot-tr | Jul 21 00:19 |
| britney | https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/schwab-crickets.jpg | Jul 21 00:20 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/QXe7xiF | Jul 21 00:28 |
| britney | you're going to eat the crickets because our reptilian overlords say they're delicious | Jul 21 00:35 |
| britney | https://www.cricketflours.com/ | Jul 21 00:41 |
| *psydroid2 sends giant frogs after the lizards at the WEF | Jul 21 00:46 | |
| psydroid2 | Beelzebufo will rule them all | Jul 21 00:49 |
| bagira | are those gay frogs though? | Jul 21 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> if there were two votes for two different people, even with one of them crossed out, it would have been an invalid vote, but since both votes are for the same person, it counts? | Jul 21 00:50 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y | Jul 21 00:52 |
| britney | its either a vote for a hive mind neanderthaller backed candidate or a reptilian one | Jul 21 00:52 |
| *SomeH4x0r is now known as techuser | Jul 21 00:52 | |
| britney | both play humanity like a giant game of chess | Jul 21 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | Two votes plus Lizard People = Whoever the judge awards it to is a Lizard Person / One Vote Plus Lizard People = If judge decides it's valid, that means the person who gets it is a Lizard Person / Lizard Peopls plus three votes = The person who got the vote is a Lizard Person, but we can't rule out the other two either. / Lizard People plus multiple votes and judge throws it out....Nobody gets the vote, but none of them are Lizard People. | Jul 21 00:52 |
| MinceR | britney: how do i vote for Cthulhu? | Jul 21 00:52 |
| britney | MinceR, write it in | Jul 21 00:53 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what's the legal principle behind all this? | Jul 21 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | Intent of the voter, plus the fact that the judge is definitely a lizard person but is bound by Admiralty Law due to the courts being replaced by the Corporate State. | Jul 21 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | Or so I'm told. | Jul 21 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | So the judge definitely knows which one is the Lizard. | Jul 21 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | They don't allow non-Lizard judges. In fact, if you ever hire an Attorney, he's a Lizard too. That's why you don't understand a thing they're talking about up there. They say it's Latin, but that's only because Latin is a corrupt form of the Lizard Language. The people in the Roman Empire were given their civilization by the Lizards. | Jul 21 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | They only lost it when the Lizard People went into the Lizard Schism. | Jul 21 00:56 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what's the rule on voting for multiple people at the same time? | Jul 21 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | That's why Rome fell, but the schools don't teach history. | Jul 21 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> DaemonFC: what's the rule on voting for multiple people at the same time? | Jul 21 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Legally, it spoils the ballot unless the voter's clear preference can be unambiguously determined. So if you also say you want the Lizard People, then your intent can be determined. | Jul 21 00:57 |
| britney | history = his story, or hi story | Jul 21 00:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i see | Jul 21 00:57 |
| *MinceR goes to learn some lizardry | Jul 21 00:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Donald Trump was overthrown before he could unmask who the pedophiles and Lizard people were. It turned out that Mike Pence was a pedophile lizard and that that's why people wanted to hang him. | Jul 21 00:58 |
| MinceR | Lizard People + 3 votes can get thrown out even if more than 1 of those people is a lizard | Jul 21 00:58 |
| MinceR | since it's ambiguous (you wanted Lizard People, but which?) | Jul 21 00:58 |
| MinceR | also... They're taking the DMT to Isengard! | Jul 21 00:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▅▃▄▇▅▄▅▆▇▆▅▆▅▄▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▅▆▅▅▆▅▄▆▃▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 23.21▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | Ah, yes, that would be a spoiled ballot. | Jul 21 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | But could you slip in that the judge's preferred Lizard candidate should get the ballot? | Jul 21 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | Or that you don't mind which Lizard Person gets it as long as it's a Lizard Person? | Jul 21 01:00 |
| MinceR | i don't think your system has that option | Jul 21 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know if you ever run out of space to type. | Jul 21 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | You could type in Lizard People, because there's definitely names with that many letters in them. | Jul 21 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/07/20/1105843501/electoral-count-act-changes-pence-january-6th | Jul 21 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/07/19/1112335543/netflix-second-quarter | Jul 21 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jul 21 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | "Netflix loses nearly 1 million subscribers. That's the good news" | Jul 21 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/07/19/1112318803/uk-100-degree-heat-dangerous | Jul 21 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's fitting that the heat wave affects the UK. | Jul 21 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | The English speaking world has the lowest level of scientific literacy, it seems. Enough carrot. | Jul 21 01:10 |
| MinceR | i do not carrot all. | Jul 21 01:12 |
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| bagira | what is a "mentally compromised state" | Jul 21 01:13 |
| bagira | is that drugs | Jul 21 01:14 |
| bagira | not that it would matter | Jul 21 01:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: "The first lizard person appearing on the list above" | Jul 21 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | I got a stubborn Web site to work by setting a domain-specific User Agent for it and saying SeaMonkey was Safari on an iPad. | Jul 21 01:50 |
| earthling | what's why W3C standards are good | Jul 21 01:52 |
| earthling | can't just say it's HTML4 Loose capable, and expect it loaded | Jul 21 01:52 |
| MinceR | they're not good | Jul 21 01:54 |
| MinceR | HTML5 promotes nonfree codecs and includes support for DRM | Jul 21 01:54 |
| earthling | WASM | Jul 21 01:55 |
| earthling | w3m|links|lynx are still capable and a joy to use | Jul 21 01:55 |
| britney | I love lynx | Jul 21 01:55 |
| earthling | takes some time to adapt back to sanity, after decades of mental torture | Jul 21 01:56 |
| earthling | didn't use any modern browser almost 2 years now | Jul 21 01:56 |
| earthling | while ago, migrated to netsurf, then backed down further, 6months now w3m/links/lynx | Jul 21 01:57 |
| earthling | it's a bliss, particularly with gentoo, the browser malware from google/micros~1/moz removed alone saves hours and weeks of work and compilation time | Jul 21 01:58 |
| britney | mozilla is malware? | Jul 21 01:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▅▃▄▇▅▄▅▆▇▆▅▆▅▄▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▅▆▅▅▆▅▄▆▃▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 23.21▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 01:59 |
| earthling | Webkit/Epiphany which FSF promotes too is malware, all of it... chromium, moz, webkit | Jul 21 01:59 |
| britney | how is it malware? | Jul 21 01:59 |
| earthling | and those offer a malware execution runtime on top, with wasm | Jul 21 01:59 |
| earthling | because it meets the definition of malware 100% | Jul 21 02:00 |
| earthling | including Epiphane which FSF promotes, shame on them | Jul 21 02:00 |
| earthling | *Epiphany | Jul 21 02:00 |
| britney | what is your definition of malware? | Jul 21 02:00 |
| earthling | it is pure malice, don't know where to begin | Jul 21 02:01 |
| britney | ok | Jul 21 02:01 |
| earthling | first, it is impossible to review the monstrosity | Jul 21 02:01 |
| britney | im guessing your definition of malware is, doesn't run on a pentium4 or less ? | Jul 21 02:02 |
| earthling | chromium, how much is it, the source bundle... more than 1GiB of crap delivered once or twice a week | Jul 21 02:02 |
| britney | I use firefox and brave | Jul 21 02:02 |
| earthling | it is impossible to review, regardless of if a pentium4 could run it or not | Jul 21 02:02 |
| earthling | and a pentium4 can btw. | Jul 21 02:02 |
| britney | do you actually review the code of all the software you run? | Jul 21 02:02 |
| earthling | furthermore, _all_ those "browsers" in fact are nowadays a runtime, mostly for malicious code, unverifiable loaded onto the users computer | Jul 21 02:03 |
| earthling | it is pure evil | Jul 21 02:03 |
| earthling | btw. it is GNOME/Epiphany, althoug i do not distinguish gnome/fsf/gnu | Jul 21 02:03 |
| earthling | i would stuff them into a sack all at once, zip it, and grab a baton to beat | Jul 21 02:04 |
| earthling | impossible to hit anyone errornously inside | Jul 21 02:04 |
| britney | ok so we know you use w3m/links/lynx but what about irc client and mail client? | Jul 21 02:04 |
| earthling | mutt mailer seems decent | Jul 21 02:05 |
| earthling | and there is other options available | Jul 21 02:05 |
| earthling | with irc i prefer catgirl | Jul 21 02:05 |
| earthling | i think weechat and irssi linked against Glib and similar... no thanks | Jul 21 02:05 |
| britney | yeah, my favourite text based e-mail client is alpine but I still use claws-mail because I prefer GUI based apps | Jul 21 02:05 |
| earthling | i would have wanted to keep GTK, yet decided with the harfbuzz dependency chain a red line again was crossed by some other entities inside the sack of freedom to beat onto | Jul 21 02:06 |
| earthling | redhat,google,facebook | Jul 21 02:06 |
| earthling | GTK is missing standardization, and with GTK4 ahead i decided away with it once and for all | Jul 21 02:08 |
| earthling | initially, i didn't intend to wipe Glib for example | Jul 21 02:09 |
| earthling | yet when i realizded GNU/FSF/Gnome promote pure evil such as webkit/epiphany | Jul 21 02:09 |
| earthling | hey why not, simply check the origin, GNU/FSF license banner somewhere... away with it | Jul 21 02:10 |
| britney | I'd rather use Gnome than KDE | Jul 21 02:10 |
| britney | earthling, what are you using for a GUI? | Jul 21 02:10 |
| earthling | yaft and dvtm terminal multiplexer | Jul 21 02:10 |
| earthling | i would accept X11 and motif widget toolkit still, yet there isn't any benefit with those anymore | Jul 21 02:11 |
| earthling | if anyone was interested in repairing the netsurf-motif port to gentoo/linux prepared... that could be one candidate to reconsider X11 and motif at least | Jul 21 02:12 |
| britney | wait a second | Jul 21 02:12 |
| britney | you don't use XORG, X11 or Wayland? | Jul 21 02:12 |
| earthling | with X11, jwm window manager was ok, as far as dependencies were concerned | Jul 21 02:12 |
| earthling | britney: none of it, yes. | Jul 21 02:12 |
| britney | oh wow, you're hardcore | Jul 21 02:12 |
| earthling | although, i would accept X11/motif/jwm | Jul 21 02:12 |
| earthling | GNOME however is pure evil | Jul 21 02:13 |
| earthling | it wasn't, yet it has become | Jul 21 02:13 |
| britney | how is gnome "pure evil" | Jul 21 02:13 |
| earthling | harfbuzz/c++, and systemd/dbus | Jul 21 02:13 |
| earthling | X11 with jwm isn't that bad, although Xorg too was affected by some systemd clutter (evdev, and who knows what else) | Jul 21 02:14 |
| earthling | i still got the 100% clean no-systemd/no-udev/no-dbus X11/GTK profile archived | Jul 21 02:15 |
| earthling | no other distro got that | Jul 21 02:15 |
| earthling | however, i am not willing to maintain pentagon malware | Jul 21 02:15 |
| britney | how is the pentagon involved in udev and dbus? | Jul 21 02:16 |
| britney | i can understand why people don't like systemd but what does udev and dbus fit into this | Jul 21 02:16 |
| MinceR | gnome has the MICROS~1 attitude >> https://imgur.com/pYuj8tW | Jul 21 02:16 |
| earthling | attention, besides technical facts, this is my opinion: systemd/dbus are a spyware middleware infrastructure | Jul 21 02:16 |
| earthling | brought to you by and promoted with FSF/GNU label, or am i mistaken about this "minor" little detail? | Jul 21 02:18 |
| earthling | and even if, there is good arguments to be made, for LAWFUL INTERCEPTION | Jul 21 02:18 |
| earthling | nonetheless, the entire technical design and implementation of this spyware isn't in compliance | Jul 21 02:18 |
| britney | I think it is insane that gnome removed the system tray icons | Jul 21 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], The review of how SeaMonkey is doing is turning into a really long post. | Jul 21 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's clearly not doing well these days. | Jul 21 02:19 |
| psydruid | what would be totally cool is gnome removing itself | Jul 21 02:20 |
| psydruid | that would be the sanest thing they've ever done | Jul 21 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | You can make it work, but doing so generally requires advanced knowledge of how to set up a Mozilla-based browser, including creating about:config strings, modifying advanced settings, and looking for "legacy" versions of extensions that will still install and go ahead and work. | Jul 21 02:20 |
| earthling | with seamonkey you'll need even more vile crap to compile this at least, because rust, llvm | Jul 21 02:21 |
| earthling | which is insane amounts of source text impossible to review, maintain, or at least compile in a reasonable time | Jul 21 02:22 |
| earthling | or, you're going to tell me "free software" and "opensource" weren't supposed to be reviewed and compiled from source? | Jul 21 02:22 |
| earthling | of cause i am not willing to review everything, i only verify if it would be possible at least to dig into source text with an acceptable amount of effort and time | Jul 21 02:24 |
| earthling | some years ago, FSF/GNU too promoted mozilla malware | Jul 21 02:25 |
| britney | earthling, are you saying that you've read the source code for w3m/links/lynx ? | Jul 21 02:25 |
| earthling | i had to dig into all three of those for one or another reason | Jul 21 02:25 |
| earthling | withy lynx some security advisory cought my attention, with w3m i had some problem with gpm/mouse support etc... | Jul 21 02:25 |
| britney | mouse support without X11? | Jul 21 02:26 |
| earthling | with links it's still there | Jul 21 02:26 |
| earthling | for w3m i hacked some mouse cursor and paste-buffer into yaft | Jul 21 02:27 |
| britney | you have some pretty extreme views | Jul 21 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that as of 2012, SeaMonkey isn't even a part of Mozilla anymore. | Jul 21 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's a German non-profit. | Jul 21 02:27 |
| earthling | just some random tasks, which are useful to see, what source text of "free software" is made of | Jul 21 02:27 |
| britney | DaemonFC, why are you running SeaMonkey? | Jul 21 02:28 |
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| britney | ok lol | Jul 21 02:29 |
| earthling | i quit with maintaining an outdated seamonkey version when it didn't compile anymore, the build system of it alone is a horror show | Jul 21 02:29 |
| earthling | a nightmare | Jul 21 02:29 |
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| DaemonFC | Why not? | Jul 21 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I noticed Ubuntu dropped SeaMonkey years ago. | Jul 21 02:30 |
| britney | why not firefox? | Jul 21 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | I was going to mention that in my blog. | Jul 21 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | I installed it because I noticed Fedora still packages it. | Jul 21 02:30 |
| britney | SeaMonkey reminds me of Netscape 6 | Jul 21 02:30 |
| bagira | re: peter todd case, first filing eval did not go well, not seeing vindication yet: https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/controversial/Reichwein,%20Sarah%20Michelle/starting_notes | Jul 21 02:34 |
| britney | DaemonFC, we both use the same version of hexchat | Jul 21 02:34 |
| bagira | im eager to get to the defense filings | Jul 21 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed. | Jul 21 02:34 |
| britney | DaemonFC, my kernel is slightly newer than yours | Jul 21 02:35 |
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| britney | earthling, have you considered the enlightenment desktop? | Jul 21 02:45 |
| britney | fvwm95 might be cool too | Jul 21 02:47 |
| techrights-news | AuraGem Search Update gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220720_search.gmi | Jul 21 02:48 |
| techrights-news | "Documents have many positive aspects and forcing people to use an app (anything with Javascript) means that almost always the experience degrades: less accessibility, less freedom in layout, theming, archiving, printing, navigation, and so on." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-20%20What%20about%20Javascript%3F | Jul 21 02:49 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D649.jpg | Jul 21 02:49 |
| techrights-news | D298 | Jul 21 02:50 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D298.jpg | Jul 21 02:50 |
| techrights-news | Neptunalia: X Kalends August Neptunalia: X Kalends August | Jul 21 02:50 |
| earthling | britney: no | Jul 21 02:51 |
| techrights-news | "Lucky and charitable readers of Max Stirner will remember that first moment in which they grasped (or felt as though they had grasped) Stirner's process of inquiry, that feeling of complete exhilaration that comes from one's first sustained encounter with Der Einzige und sein Eigentum." gemini://fawn.garden/log/Note_on_Stirner.gmi | Jul 21 02:51 |
| earthling | i did review various, for a long time enjoyed i3 window manager, until i removed all c++ and there was something hit with it (cmake i think) | Jul 21 02:52 |
| techrights-news | The Beagles of Envigo gemini://fawn.garden/log/The_Beagles_of_Envigo.gmi | Jul 21 02:52 |
| britney | c++ is trash | Jul 21 02:52 |
| britney | i can't blame you there | Jul 21 02:52 |
| earthling | jwm was the easiest to configure, small, efficient, good enough | Jul 21 02:52 |
| earthling | until i too wiped entire X11 | Jul 21 02:52 |
| earthling | simply because there wasn't any program remaining which required it and passed my acceptance criteria | Jul 21 02:53 |
| techrights-news | Hello World, Hello Geminispace! gemini://gmi.derschwarzestrahler.at/en/gemlog/hello_world.gmi | Jul 21 02:53 |
| earthling | what is X11 useful for, if GTK and QT are gone? | Jul 21 02:53 |
| britney | jwm looks kinda cool | Jul 21 02:53 |
| earthling | it is clean as far as i can tell. | Jul 21 02:53 |
| techrights-news | AuraGem's Go Code for Converting Gemsub Feed to Atom gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220720.gmi | Jul 21 02:54 |
| britney | X11 is useful for running multiple terminal windows at a high resolution | Jul 21 02:54 |
| earthling | i do this with yaft and dvtm now | Jul 21 02:54 |
| britney | how do you use facebook? | Jul 21 02:55 |
| earthling | never used it | Jul 21 02:55 |
| britney | so you don't have any friends in real life? | Jul 21 02:55 |
| earthling | never used any android/iphone/tablet, never in my life, not once | Jul 21 02:55 |
| techrights-news | "Stephano Cetola, Director of Technical Programs for RISC-V International, returns to bring Doc Searls and Jonathan Bennett up to speed on the many new developments in and around RISC-V's radically open and promising CPU architecture." https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/690 | Jul 21 02:56 |
| britney | is your computer a raspi zero w? | Jul 21 02:56 |
| earthling | no, it is a rock64 | Jul 21 02:56 |
| britney | oh nice | Jul 21 02:56 |
| techrights-news | How to install WPS Office 2019 on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xgNmyGYmv2c | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/xgNmyGYmv2c | Jul 21 02:56 |
| techrights-news | Google Migrated 100k PCs To Rolling Release Debian - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IIRWetN7Zno | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/IIRWetN7Zno | Jul 21 02:57 |
| earthling | i would prefer a j-core turtle board or similar, none available anywhere | Jul 21 02:57 |
| techrights-news | LHS Episode #475: The Weekender XCIV | Linux in the Ham Shack ⚓ https://lhspodcast.info/2022/07/lhs-episode-475-the-weekender-xciv-2/ ䷉ Source: lhspodcast | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lhspodcast.info/2022/07/lhs-episode-475-the-weekender-xciv-2/ | Jul 21 02:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▅▃▄▇▅▄▅▆▇▆▅▆▅▄▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▅▆▅▅▆▅▄▆▃▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 23.21▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 02:59 |
| britney | you had dark mode before dark mode became cool | Jul 21 02:59 |
| MinceR | everyone had it | Jul 21 02:59 |
| MinceR | remember VT100-s? :> | Jul 21 03:00 |
| britney | im not that old | Jul 21 03:00 |
| britney | im not over 40 yet | Jul 21 03:01 |
| earthling | vector graphics support inside terminal... it existed, long time ago | Jul 21 03:01 |
| earthling | considering this, templeos is rather capable, with it's embedded vector graphics, animated even | Jul 21 03:02 |
| britney | Temple OS was made by a lunatic though | Jul 21 03:02 |
| earthling | there isn't any other terminal which could do this, i don't know any | Jul 21 03:02 |
| earthling | animated vector graphics on the command line | Jul 21 03:02 |
| britney | I wonder if you could enjoy https://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/ | Jul 21 03:03 |
| britney | its what used to be plan9 | Jul 21 03:03 |
| earthling | read about it, didn't follow the track | Jul 21 03:03 |
| earthling | often, it is supported hardware, or lack thereof | Jul 21 03:05 |
| earthling | same with minix, beagleboard and similar | Jul 21 03:05 |
| earthling | there's is always something wrong with it | Jul 21 03:05 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 211903 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 41774 • Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 24 days ago | Jul 21 03:05 |
| britney | i wouldn't try to use one of those systems as my desktop | Jul 21 03:06 |
| earthling | in the end, if and once i depart from linux, which i will, chances are i remain 100% offline, no internet, and gigatron or z80 to hack with | Jul 21 03:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 9.6 MB • TotalOut: 1.9 MB | Jul 21 03:06 |
| earthling | i mean, there isn't any web browser remaining anymore, either opensource or free or not, which i would accept | Jul 21 03:07 |
| techrights-news | Waterfox is covertly owned by a surveillance company; better not to install it https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-waterfox-browser-on-ubuntu-20-04-22-04-lts/ | Jul 21 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | Jul 21 03:07 |
| earthling | so, situation is this: no online banking, no online job placement, no online shops | Jul 21 03:08 |
| earthling | it's all wrecked | Jul 21 03:08 |
| MinceR | TempleOS is not capable of protecting itself from bugs in applications | Jul 21 03:09 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmQpoFyQcBb3KsKSZ3VzsMZsMmgcTqXq1zThATBh2bp3Yp | Jul 21 03:09 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Jul 21 03:09 |
| techrights-news | GNU | Jul 21 03:11 |
| techrights-news | It's proprietary, it's spyware, it's controlled by Microsoft, which attacks GNU/Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-ubuntu/ | Jul 21 03:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | earthling: the browser situation is bad | Jul 21 03:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for ecommrce only a few are accepted | Jul 21 03:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and they're based on the same 2 or maybe 3 models | Jul 21 03:12 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft propagandist Davey Winder... beware Chrome... but never mind back doors in Windows https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2022/07/20/google-sees-double-as-chrome-security-update-2-arrives-for-windows-mac--linux/ | Jul 21 03:13 |
| britney | schestowitz[TR2], hes running an all text desktop | Jul 21 03:14 |
| techrights-news | Why would Sean Michael Kerner help the listening devices agenda? THESE DEVICES SHOULD CEASE TO EXIST. https://venturebeat.com/2022/07/20/amazon-extends-alexa-to-enable-ambient-intelligence/ | Jul 21 03:14 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167470 | Jul 21 03:15 |
| earthling | yaft offers a pixel buffer, sixel support, and extended unicode glyph support | Jul 21 03:15 |
| earthling | and i kept libsdl1+fbcon, for some other things | Jul 21 03:15 |
| techrights-news | 1 Billion Flux Downloads Show GitOps Gaining Ground - Container Journal ⚓ https://containerjournal.com/features/1-billion-flux-downloads-show-gitops-gaining-ground/ ䷉ Source: containerjournal | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/1-billion-flux-downloads-show-gitops-gaining-ground/ | Jul 21 03:16 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167471 | Jul 21 03:16 |
| britney | earthling, can you watch video files? | Jul 21 03:16 |
| techrights-news | I don’t know who uses my code | daniel.haxx.se ⚓ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/07/21/i-dont-know-who-uses-my-code/ ䷉ Source: daniel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/07/21/i-dont-know-who-uses-my-code/ | Jul 21 03:17 |
| techrights-news | lockdown: Fix kexec lockdown bypass with ima policy https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=543ce63b664e2c2f9533d089a4664b559c3e6b5b | Jul 21 03:17 |
| earthling | britney: of cause | Jul 21 03:18 |
| britney | I have my laptop connected to a TV and I pretty much have VLC playing something whenever I'm awake | Jul 21 03:18 |
| earthling | mplayer-1.4 with libsdl1+fbcon... it's ok | Jul 21 03:19 |
| britney | thats cool | Jul 21 03:19 |
| earthling | and i got some cheapo hdmi grabber to grab hdmi | Jul 21 03:19 |
| britney | its pretty admirable that you can live your life in text based terminals but i could never do it | Jul 21 03:19 |
| earthling | well, web browsers are wrecked anyway, and some other software i would have wanted is gone too | Jul 21 03:20 |
| earthling | such as GIMP for example | Jul 21 03:20 |
| techrights-news | unintentional concurrency -- wingolog ⚓ https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/07/20/unintentional-concurrency ䷉ Source: wingolog | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//wingolog.org/archives/2022/07/20/unintentional-concurrency | Jul 21 03:20 |
| britney | here i am looking at my system usage and my gnome desktop + apps are using 4.8GB ram | Jul 21 03:20 |
| earthling | currently it is 220MiB RAM total; with some proxies running, irc, NFS server, w3m browser | Jul 21 03:21 |
| britney | thats pretty sweet | Jul 21 03:22 |
| techrights-news | Playing record covers instead of the vinyl | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/21/playing-record-covers-instead-of-the-vinyl/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/21/playing-record-covers-instead-of-the-vinyl/ | Jul 21 03:22 |
| earthling | yes, best part is this: i compile all software from source, on a rock64, with 5watts power draw | Jul 21 03:22 |
| britney | I remember the days where you could have win2k run on 64MB ram | Jul 21 03:22 |
| earthling | the entire distro requires ~12hours to compile, ~700packages with the typical httpd/smtpd/proxy/router whatever fun | Jul 21 03:23 |
| britney | gentoo? | Jul 21 03:23 |
| techrights-news | Build your own multi-function digital measuring wheel with Arduino | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/20/build-your-own-multi-function-digital-measuring-wheel-with-arduino/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/20/build-your-own-multi-function-digital-measuring-wheel-with-arduino/ | Jul 21 03:23 |
| earthling | yes | Jul 21 03:23 |
| britney | im surprised you're using so much ram too | Jul 21 03:23 |
| techrights-news | A 3D-printed CNC mill made from scratch | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/20/a-3d-printed-cnc-mill-made-from-scratch/ ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/20/a-3d-printed-cnc-mill-made-from-scratch/ | Jul 21 03:24 |
| earthling | ram usage when starting dmux is 32MiB total, that's ok | Jul 21 03:24 |
| earthling | and a modern linux kernel simply requires a little more | Jul 21 03:24 |
| earthling | kernel image size is 11MiB total, and i cannot shrink this down further | Jul 21 03:24 |
| earthling | it's good enough, for some tinier embedded systems | Jul 21 03:25 |
| techrights-news | More publicity for EasyOS ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202207/more-publicity-for-easyos.html ䷉ Source: bkhome | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bkhome.org/news/202207/more-publicity-for-easyos.html | Jul 21 03:25 |
| techrights-news | Proposed 32-bit EasyOS shelved ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202207/proposed-32-bit-easyos-shelved.html ䷉ Source: bkhome | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bkhome.org/news/202207/proposed-32-bit-easyos-shelved.html | Jul 21 03:26 |
| britney | i wish firefox wasn't so bloated | Jul 21 03:27 |
| techrights-news | "I hit the ground running and I haven't stopped since. Got a deadline for a new computer lab rollout that I need to finish -- I think it's going fine, actually, it's just a lot -- and with training in between April and now, everything has been A Lot. Also, Gemini's port being blocked at work hasn't helped at all." gemini://officialdonut.smol.pub/1658337466 | Jul 21 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <britney> i wish firefox wasn't so bloated | Jul 21 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | thew www is bloatyed | Jul 21 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and requires bloated brioserss | Jul 21 03:27 |
| britney | im using brave too, its even more bloated than firefox | Jul 21 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *browsers | Jul 21 03:27 |
| bagira | ohhhh they didn't get the case thrown out they SETTLED | Jul 21 03:27 |
| britney | oh touche | Jul 21 03:27 |
| britney | lynx isn't too bloated but then again it doesn't support javascript | Jul 21 03:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | brave is chromium with "stuff" on top | Jul 21 03:28 |
| earthling | lynx got something better: gopher ;) | Jul 21 03:28 |
| britney | gopher is alright | Jul 21 03:28 |
| britney | gemini is aiming to replace it | Jul 21 03:28 |
| britney | lagrange is a nice gemini browser, its my fav so far | Jul 21 03:29 |
| techrights-news | It's Time to Say Goodbye to These Obsolete Python Libraries | Martin Heinz | Personal Website & Blog ⚓ https://martinheinz.dev/blog/77 ䷉ Source: martinheinz | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//martinheinz.dev/blog/77 | Jul 21 03:29 |
| earthling | i wouldn't say it is a design flaw, nonetheless it is a problem with gemini: SSL/TLS | Jul 21 03:29 |
| britney | because it supports SSL/TLS or because it doesn't? | Jul 21 03:30 |
| earthling | because SSL/TLS are awful | Jul 21 03:30 |
| techrights-news | "Between 2022-07-14 and 2022-07-20 there were 23 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 251 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 9.2 % of total released titles. Here’s a quick pick of the most interesting ones..." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-native-linux-2022-07-20/ | Jul 21 03:30 |
| britney | gotta encrypt the communication from the server to the browser | Jul 21 03:31 |
| earthling | they're breaking the api regularly... | Jul 21 03:31 |
| earthling | and call it "standard" | Jul 21 03:31 |
| britney | i like lynx but i also like graphics | Jul 21 03:31 |
| britney | how are you supposed to look at memes with lynx :( | Jul 21 03:32 |
| techrights-news | Get started making your own brush presets! | Krita ⚓ https://krita.org/en/item/get-started-making-your-own-brush-presets/ ䷉ Source: krita | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//krita.org/en/item/get-started-making-your-own-brush-presets/ | Jul 21 03:32 |
| techrights-news | Second Krita Animation by Twinimation Studios | Krita ⚓ https://krita.org/en/item/second-krita-animation-by-twinimation-studios/ ䷉ Source: krita | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//krita.org/en/item/second-krita-animation-by-twinimation-studios/ | Jul 21 03:33 |
| earthling | w3m and links can render images just fine | Jul 21 03:33 |
| earthling | links requires linux-fbcon for this | Jul 21 03:33 |
| earthling | and w3m got both: sixel support and linux-fbcon | Jul 21 03:34 |
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| techrights-news | Continued cyber activity in Eastern Europe observed by TAG https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/continued-cyber-activity-in-eastern-europe-observed-by-tag/ Gulag founder born in Moscow... | Jul 21 03:34 |
| techrights-news | Mabox 22.07 is out https://blog.maboxlinux.org/ | Jul 21 03:36 |
| techrights-news | Complete Guide? Hardly. https://linuxsecurity.com/features/complete-guide-to-vulnerability-basics | Jul 21 03:37 |
| techrights-news | Weekly Virtual Machines, with Build Scripts | Kali Linux Blog ⚓ https://www.kali.org/blog/kali-vm-builder-weekly/ ䷉ Source: kali | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kali.org/blog/kali-vm-builder-weekly/ | Jul 21 03:37 |
| techrights-news | TSMC: Life Is A Beach, And Then You Make Dies ⚓ https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/20/tsmc-life-is-a-beach-and-then-you-make-dies/ ䷉ Source: nextplatform | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/20/tsmc-life-is-a-beach-and-then-you-make-dies/ | Jul 21 03:38 |
| techrights-news | Sorting Subroutine Results | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] ⚓ http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/07/sorting-subroutine-results.html ䷉ Source: perl | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/07/sorting-subroutine-results.html | Jul 21 03:39 |
| MinceR | 21 042817 < schestowitz[TR2]> brave is chromium with "stuff" on top | Jul 21 03:43 |
| MinceR | "stuff" includes a faster adblocker that gets around google's meddling :> | Jul 21 03:43 |
| techrights-news | "bringing Linux applications to the forefront of the Web3 revolution." LOL "Web3 revolution" https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/07/20/2482367/0/en/Web-Development-and-Game-Companies-Are-Booking-Groundbreaking-Results-On-Cartesi-s-Blockchain-OS.html | Jul 21 03:43 |
| techrights-news | Cloooown computing? http://www.desertnews.com/news/article_b6073bbe-086a-11ed-9e02-cfaf48431834.html | Jul 21 03:44 |
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| techrights-news | Rocky Linux 9.0 rocks new build system - ARN http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167237#comment-34398 | Jul 21 03:52 |
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| techrights-news | Arduino Projects: CNC, Measurements, and CDs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167472 | Jul 21 03:54 |
| britney | MinceR, brave is also kind of a kitchen sink cuz it also has crypto wallets and other things | Jul 21 03:54 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 21 03:54 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167473 | Jul 21 03:55 |
| MinceR | and who knows how much of google's spyware they've really managed to remove | Jul 21 03:55 |
| MinceR | the state of the web is horrifying | Jul 21 03:55 |
| britney | MinceR, is firefox safe to use? | Jul 21 03:55 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't trust it | Jul 21 03:55 |
| MinceR | especially since mozilla tried to use failfox to force poetteringaudio on users | Jul 21 03:56 |
| techrights-news | We'll charge you lots of extra money for flag and glitter https://puri.sm/posts/anti-interdiction-on-the-librem-5-usa/ | Jul 21 03:57 |
| britney | I miss newsgroups | Jul 21 03:58 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jul 21 03:58 |
| britney | https://go.dev/dl/go1.18.4.linux-amd64.tar.gz | Jul 21 03:58 |
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| britney | LOL | Jul 21 03:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▄▃▅▅▄▅▆▅▂▇▅▇▅▆▅▇▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▇▇▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.78▕ swarm size (avg): 130.06 ⟲ | Jul 21 03:59 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167474 | Jul 21 03:59 |
| britney | so i really did crash it | Jul 21 03:59 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jul 21 03:59 |
| britney | https://go.dev/dl/go1.18.4.linux-amd64.tar.gz | Jul 21 03:59 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jul 21 03:59 |
| britney | https://go.dev/dl/go1.18.4.linux-amd64.tar.gz | Jul 21 03:59 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | be a grown up.. | Jul 21 03:59 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 03:59 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jul 21 03:59 |
| britney | ill stop crashing it | Jul 21 04:00 |
| techrights-news | Community Work Group Discusses Next Edition - openSUSE News ⚓ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/07/20/community-wg-discusses-next-edition/ ䷉ Source: news | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.opensuse.org/2022/07/20/community-wg-discusses-next-edition/ | Jul 21 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | Community Work Group Discusses Next Edition - openSUSE News | Jul 21 04:00 | |
| britney | weird that linking a tar.gz makes it explode | Jul 21 04:00 |
| earthling | the browser itself IS the malware/spyware; there is only one solution to this, removal of moz/webkit/chrome | Jul 21 04:00 |
| earthling | not some ridiculous addon | Jul 21 04:00 |
| britney | earthling, you would probably like my website, I don't use javascript at all | Jul 21 04:01 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/20/netflixs-password-sharing-crackdown-has-it-sounding-more-and-more-like-comcast/ | Jul 21 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix’s Password Sharing Crackdown Has It Sounding More And More Like Comcast | Techdirt | Jul 21 04:01 | |
| techrights-news | Embedded Linux Conference Europe 2022: four talks from Bootlin - Bootlin's blog ⚓ https://bootlin.com/blog/embedded-linux-conference-europe-2022-four-talks-from-bootlin/ ䷉ Source: bootlin | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bootlin.com/blog/embedded-linux-conference-europe-2022-four-talks-from-bootlin/ | Jul 21 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Embedded Linux Conference Europe 2022: four talks from Bootlin - Bootlin's blog | Jul 21 04:01 | |
| techrights-news | Native Python support for units? [LWN] ⚓ https://lwn.net/Articles/900739/ ䷉ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/900739/ | Jul 21 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Native Python support for units? [LWN.net] | Jul 21 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | "Critical" projects and volunteer maintainers [LWN] ⚓ https://lwn.net/Articles/900953/ ䷉ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/900953/ | Jul 21 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Critical" projects and volunteer maintainers [LWN.net] | Jul 21 04:08 | |
| techrights-news | New Krita Videos • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167475 | Jul 21 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Krita Videos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:09 | |
| techrights-news | Distributors entering Flatpakland • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167476 | Jul 21 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distributors entering Flatpakland | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:10 | |
| earthling | britney: the icke/rense satirical fringe? | Jul 21 04:11 |
| earthling | don't know, can't grasp this | Jul 21 04:13 |
| britney | earthling, https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/ | Jul 21 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org | Cerberus Investigations | Jul 21 04:13 | |
| earthling | it's alot of double-think and double-talk with this | Jul 21 04:13 |
| MinceR | 21 050040 < britney> weird that linking a tar.gz makes it explode | Jul 21 04:14 |
| MinceR | it probably downloads the whole thing | Jul 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's the file size | Jul 21 04:14 |
| MinceR | or tries to, and runs out of memory or something | Jul 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it limits the buffer | Jul 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and that cannot fit it | Jul 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *in | Jul 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and the program tgerminates itself | Jul 21 04:14 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, July 20, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jul 21 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jul 21 04:15 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jul 21 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jul 21 04:15 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | bnchs noticed the same | Jul 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | better approach is, | Jul 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | check file size, before trying to retreive the urlk | Jul 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *retrieve the url | Jul 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I still remember some trolls trying to crash it like this in 2009 | Jul 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it ran here that long ago | Jul 21 04:17 |
| britney | lets party like its 2009 | Jul 21 04:17 |
| techrights-news | EasyOS Plans and Publicity • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167477 | Jul 21 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS Plans and Publicity | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:17 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 2009 was no party.. | Jul 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but at least food price didn't go through the roof | Jul 21 04:18 |
| britney | schestowitz[TR2], you could always eat crickets | Jul 21 04:20 |
| britney | nom nom nom... | Jul 21 04:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/opensuse-alp-concept-unofficial.pngnomnom freom Cut The Rope | Jul 21 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/opensuse-alp-concept-unofficial.pngnomnom ) | Jul 21 04:21 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | nomnom from Cut The Rope | Jul 21 04:21 |
| britney | what the hell is opensuse alp supposed to be | Jul 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tubmleweed | Jul 21 04:22 |
| britney | aha | Jul 21 04:22 |
| britney | i use arch linux instead of fedora now | Jul 21 04:23 |
| techrights-news | openSUSE: Community Work Group Discusses Next Editions • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167478 | Jul 21 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE: Community Work Group Discusses Next Editions | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:24 | |
| britney | i didn't switch because i had problems with fedora or anything, i switched for the memes | Jul 21 04:26 |
| techrights-news | Kernel: sambaXP, Control-flow integrity (CFI), Embedded Linux Conference Europe 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167479 | Jul 21 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: sambaXP, Control-flow integrity (CFI), Embedded Linux Conference Europe 2022 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:27 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167480 | Jul 21 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:44 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167481 | Jul 21 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:44 | |
| techrights-news | Links 21/07/2022: EasyOS Plans and Arduino Projects | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/easyos-plans/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/easyos-plans/ | Jul 21 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/07/2022: EasyOS Plans and Arduino Projects | Techrights | Jul 21 04:47 | |
| *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights | Jul 21 04:55 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▄▃▅▅▄▅▆▅▂▇▅▇▅▆▅▇▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▇▇▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.78▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 04:59 |
| britney | here is an idea: a techrights nntp server | Jul 21 05:05 |
| britney | nntp is fun | Jul 21 05:05 |
| bagira | how about a redesign of the site theme | Jul 21 05:11 |
| bagira | its a little jumbled at the moment | Jul 21 05:12 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/21/teams_outage/ | Jul 21 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft blames storage error for Teams outage • The Register | Jul 21 05:16 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | :D | Jul 21 05:16 |
| britney | NNTP server and then turn the website into an NNTP reader | Jul 21 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> especially since mozilla tried to use failfox to force poetteringaudio on users | Jul 21 05:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the clown | Jul 21 05:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | GUARANTEED uptme | Jul 21 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're on to Pipewire. | Jul 21 05:18 |
| britney | pipewire is cool | Jul 21 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | It supports Pulseaudio's API though. | Jul 21 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | There's too many applications out there not to. | Jul 21 05:18 |
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| techrights-news | The EPO Bubble — Part IX — A Well-Remunerated Faustian Pact? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/razik-menidjel-faustian-pact/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/razik-menidjel-faustian-pact/ | Jul 21 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Bubble — Part IX — A Well-Remunerated Faustian Pact? | Techrights | Jul 21 05:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Dear lord. A bag of romaine lettuce salad is $5 now, at Walmart. :/ | Jul 21 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there goes that up another 20%. | Jul 21 05:27 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | It costs you as much to cook something as it does to just go to Golden Corral. | Jul 21 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | They have an entire salad bar, and it's not bad. | Jul 21 05:28 |
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| britney | whoa my mind is blown | Jul 21 05:38 |
| britney | imagine your website is just a front end for an NNTP server | Jul 21 05:40 |
| britney | that would be a great idea | Jul 21 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], Still reviewing SeaMonkey. | Jul 21 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | My overall point is that it's aging badly, and a lot of this is not even really their fault. | Jul 21 05:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it works as before | Jul 21 05:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but the www is changing | Jul 21 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | The Web is barreling forward with poorly designed "standards" that don't do anything you couldn't do before, but they do it in some other way that sabotages browsers that are just two years old. | Jul 21 05:42 |
| britney | just two years old? thats like a decade in computer time | Jul 21 05:43 |
| techrights-news | The Linux Foundation Does Not Understand What Open Source Means | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/linux-foundation-hypocrisy-and-openwashing/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/linux-foundation-hypocrisy-and-openwashing/ | Jul 21 05:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Does Not Understand What Open Source Means | Techrights | Jul 21 05:44 | |
| DaemonFC | "One I found the IMAP and SMTP servers, and the non-standard ports that Microsoft uses, and the security protocols to use, I also had to create an App Password, which Microsoft says is for "obsolete" Microsoft products, like XBOX 360s and older versions of Office and so on. " | Jul 21 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | "When I tried to simply use OAuth, it told me that I couldn't use it with a personal account and they only let you use it with a work or student account, however, GNOME Online Accounts and Thunderbird get to use OAuth. Do they have some sort of Microsoft deal?" | Jul 21 05:46 |
| britney | Google Mail is just as bad | Jul 21 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | "I haven't set up my GMail account yet. I don't know if I can do that or if it will even work very long if I can. Google is threatening to cut off anything that doesn't support their XOAuth2 in the near future. So far, I have K9 Mail on my phone set up to check that and my Outlook. (I wonder how long that will keep working. Bark Bark.)" | Jul 21 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, I figured out the difference between SPAM and the Walmart brand. | Jul 21 05:49 |
| britney | I was trying to use Gmail with XOAuth2 in Alpine Mail and it wanted me to visit a website to give it permission every time I opened alpine | Jul 21 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart brand says pork and the SPAM says pork and ham. I noticed, I made two SPAM loaves tonight. (glazed and with cloves) One for dinner and one for Mandy to take to work tomorrow as a snack and share with his friend. | Jul 21 05:50 |
| AdmFubar | spam! eeewwwww | Jul 21 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just for the hell of it, I made the brand name for dinner and the cheap one for his lunch tomorrow. When I was scoring them, I noticed the Great Value kind of wanted to come apart on me a bit. | Jul 21 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | They both taste fairly alike though when you finish cooking them. | Jul 21 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see $1.66 worth of improvement on the side of SPAM (name brand) here. | Jul 21 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | Other than a very slightly better consistency, it tastes pretty similar. | Jul 21 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | <AdmFubar> spam! eeewwwww | Jul 21 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe it's not for everyone. | Jul 21 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | My great-grandmother cooked spam loaves sometimes. | Jul 21 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | None of the kids wanted to eat one, mom said. So I decided I'd cook one and find out if it was good or not. | Jul 21 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | I like it. | Jul 21 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | In Fallout, the wasteland has cans of "Cram" that you can open and eat, 200 years after the bombs went off. | Jul 21 05:54 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 05:55 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] Faustian Pact to Violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-faustian-pact-to-violate-the-european-patent-convention-epc/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-faustian-pact-to-violate-the-european-patent-convention-epc/ | Jul 21 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Faustian Pact to Violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights | Jul 21 05:56 | |
| AdmFubar | spam, the twinkies of meat | Jul 21 05:57 |
| britney | AdmFubar, twinkies are actually good tho | Jul 21 05:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▄▃▅▅▄▅▆▅▂▇▅▇▅▆▅▇▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▇▇▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.78▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 05:59 |
| AdmFubar | hydrogenated oil....hhmmm hmm good | Jul 21 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | "I opened Bing just to see what it would do, the entire browser crashes as soon as you load it. I went to see if Bing was one of the available search engines, and it's not. :)" | Jul 21 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | <AdmFubar> spam, the twinkies of meat | Jul 21 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's not really fair to say that. | Jul 21 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically just a ground loaf of pork and ham. | Jul 21 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's pretty tasty. You just have to cook it. Although it won't _hurt_ you if you ate it out of the can, it would have a weird texture. They cook them inside the can, but you're really meant to cook it again. | Jul 21 06:03 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.spam.com/varieties/spam-classic | Jul 21 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SPAM® Classic | SPAM® Varieties | Jul 21 06:09 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.hostesscakes.com/products/twinkies/classic/ | Jul 21 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hostesscakes.com | Classic | Jul 21 06:09 | |
| britney | https://www.eternal-september.org/ | Jul 21 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eternal-september.org | Jul 21 06:09 | |
| AdmFubar | click on the nutrition infor links.. and compare | Jul 21 06:09 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm getting ChatZilla set up. | Jul 21 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, back to SPAM. Very popular in Hawaii. You can go too McDonalds there and get it. | Jul 21 06:19 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 06:19 |
| techrights-news | Conspiracy of Silence: The Corporate Media Does Not Speak About Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/conspiracy-of-silence-for-microsoft/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/conspiracy-of-silence-for-microsoft/ | Jul 21 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conspiracy of Silence: The Corporate Media Does Not Speak About Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | Techrights | Jul 21 06:19 | |
| britney | ChatZilla is trash | Jul 21 06:20 |
| techrights-news | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167482 | Jul 21 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 21 06:20 | |
| DaemonFC | They have a breakfast of SPAM, Portuguese sausage, white rice, and scrambled eggs. | Jul 21 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | britneyChatZilla is trash | Jul 21 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's not that bad. | Jul 21 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | Although they have had to fix it several times. | Jul 21 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | It was written a long time ago in an outdated form of JavaScript. | Jul 21 06:21 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Exclude Package Update from Apt-Upgrade • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167483 | Jul 21 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Exclude Package Update from Apt-Upgrade | Tux Machines | Jul 21 06:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I suppose the reason it disappeared from SeaMonkey for years is they had to do a big rewrite to get it working again. | Jul 21 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when it didn't matter much if you went years without updating your Web browser too much. | Jul 21 06:22 |
| britney | kek | Jul 21 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape 4's rendering engine never changed much for the life of the product 1997-2002. | Jul 21 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | In 2002, you could still _mostly_ use it, although it was aging badly. | Jul 21 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | But as to why you can't use Gecko 78 on some sites. | Jul 21 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | There's no good reason for this. | Jul 21 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | Most GNU/Linux distributions were chucking Netscape 4 in as the default browser, EVEN WHEN Mozilla Suite had been available for some time. | Jul 21 06:24 |
| britney | you could still use lynx | Jul 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape 4 was obsolete. It was slow, it was badly written. You changed the window size, it reloaded the damned page! | Jul 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | And not out of the disk cache! It asked the server to send everything again! | Jul 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mashed.com/650241/the-mcdonalds-breakfast-item-you-can-only-get-in-hawaii/ | Jul 21 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mashed.com | The McDonald's Breakfast Item You Can Only Get In Hawaii | Jul 21 06:25 | |
| britney | I remember Netscape 3.04 gold lasted for years too | Jul 21 06:25 |
| techrights-news | Talking about my generation gemini://idiomdrottning.org/generations | Jul 21 06:26 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167484 | Jul 21 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 21 06:27 | |
| DaemonFC | At one point, I found the "Netscape 5" binary and loaded it on Windows. | Jul 21 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | There was one build that leaked out. I don't have it anymore. | Jul 21 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't very stable and it was entirely missing support for SSL, so you couldn't use anything that required that. | Jul 21 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | But it does confirm that they had been planning a stopgap release that was still based on the Netscape 4.x code with improvements. | Jul 21 06:28 |
| britney | interesting | Jul 21 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | Things fell into infighting because management pressured mozilla.org to "release something soon" on the open source front. | Jul 21 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | And it was taking forever because it was a from the ground up rewrite. | Jul 21 06:29 |
| britney | I remember how bad Netscape 6 was | Jul 21 06:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 21 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually, AOL told Netscape to release Netscape 6 immediately, and so they released it, based on a pre-beta quality branch of Mozilla Suite. | Jul 21 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | I loaded it up and it was horrible. | Jul 21 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | It crashed CONSTANTLY. | Jul 21 06:30 |
| britney | it was slow as balls | Jul 21 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | My usual thing by that point was to just download a nightly build for Windows and unpack it and set it to use the same profile as the last one every now and then. | Jul 21 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Of Mozilla. | Jul 21 06:31 |
| britney | I think around that time I had started using the Opera browser | Jul 21 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the browser situation at that time was so bad, I'm sure Opera was getting people to pay $40 for a license. | Jul 21 06:31 |
| britney | lawl, i had a cracked version | Jul 21 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | So did I. | Jul 21 06:32 |
| techrights-news | This week we added a new git server for tuxmachines. The Techrights git server has almost 15k lines of code now. gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/sloc.gmi | Jul 21 06:32 |
| britney | being able to turn off images was pretty sweet | Jul 21 06:32 |
| britney | being on dialup and all | Jul 21 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | I had almost every browser there was, except Internet Explorer, which I had totally gutted from Windows 98. | Jul 21 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | Shell update and all. | Jul 21 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | I actually experimented with installing IE 1, 2, and 3 on Windows 98. | Jul 21 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | Which was possible after you removed the IE that it came with. | Jul 21 06:33 |
| britney | Did you know they made an IE5 for Windows 3.x? | Jul 21 06:33 |
| techrights-news | António Campinos et al propelled Razik Menidjel to a position of greater authority, but what were the strings attached to such a promotion? http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/razik-menidjel-faustian-pact/ | Jul 21 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Bubble — Part IX — A Well-Remunerated Faustian Pact? | Techrights | Jul 21 06:33 | |
| DaemonFC | You could also install IE 4, 5, and 6 and it would act as if you were installing them on Windows 95. | Jul 21 06:33 |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation staff does not use Open Source, does not understand Open Source, and does not wish to adopt it; these people are just milking (or diluting) brands for a living… http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/linux-foundation-hypocrisy-and-openwashing/ | Jul 21 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Does Not Understand What Open Source Means | Techrights | Jul 21 06:33 | |
| techrights-news | The European Patent Convention (EPC) is constantly being violated by the EPO‘s “f***ing president” (in his own words) António Campinos; why doesn’t the European Commission step in to intervene? http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-faustian-pact-to-violate-the-european-patent-convention-epc/ | Jul 21 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Faustian Pact to Violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights | Jul 21 06:33 | |
| DaemonFC | There was some code in there that checked to see if IE was present with the Shell Update and if you were running Windows 98. Oddly, it didn't check by build number. | Jul 21 06:34 |
| techrights-news | Later in our series (“Microsoft GitHub Exposé”) we’ll show how the mainstream or so-called ‘tech’ media helped Microsoft cover up big scandals; just look how the media and MIT dealt with the Bill Gates-Jeffrey Epstein scandals… they only pretend to care about women http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/conspiracy-of-silence-for-microsoft/ | Jul 21 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | It checked for a registry key that wasn't there if there was no IE, and assumed that it was Windows 95 if it wasn't. | Jul 21 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conspiracy of Silence: The Corporate Media Does Not Speak About Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | Techrights | Jul 21 06:34 | |
| britney | DaemonFC, check this shit out: https://imgur.com/a/bchduUI | Jul 21 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Jul 21 06:34 | |
| britney | IE5 on Win 3.11 | Jul 21 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | So you could remove all of IE, remove the shell update and go back to the Windows 95 B Shell, then install IE 6, and it would add an entry to remove Internet Explorer from Add/Remove Programs, in Windows 98. | Jul 21 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 06:35 |
| britney | I think there was opera for win 3.x too | Jul 21 06:35 |
| britney | i think opera for 3.x was one of my first browsers | Jul 21 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | I tried that, and then removing it. You reboot, and IE isn't there again. | Jul 21 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | It deletes everything from IE, just as if you'd removed it from Windows 95. | Jul 21 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | So pretty much the only difference between Windows 98 and Windows 95 is Windows 98 would be what would happen if you added IE and the Shell Update to Windows 95 and then Microsoft didn't add an uninstaller routine. | Jul 21 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing more, nothing less. | Jul 21 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | Bill Gates testified that the "integration runs so deep that Windows 98 won't work anymore if you tried to remove Internet Explorer....you'd have a broken operating system". | Jul 21 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, there were some kernel improvements to Windows 98, but that's the only other difference. | Jul 21 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | britneyIE5 on Win 3.11 | Jul 21 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | IE 5 on Windows 95 and 98 was actually a Win32s application. | Jul 21 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | You could run it on Windows 3.11 with Win32s. | Jul 21 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | It was only with IE 6 that that stopped working. | Jul 21 06:38 |
| britney | aha | Jul 21 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft did that so they could share the binaries. | Jul 21 06:39 |
| britney | 16-bit mIRC still works too, as long as the irc server doesn't need SSL | Jul 21 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | All IE 5 had to do was add Win32s to Windows 3.1 and then it ran, and it was the same binaries you had on Windows 9x. | Jul 21 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | There were some changes though, iirc. | Jul 21 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | The Windows 3.1 package didn't have some features that the platform didn't support. | Jul 21 06:40 |
| britney | Microsoft used to have a BBS where you could download Win32s and other addons and patches | Jul 21 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | But there were actually almost no code differences in IE for Windows 3, 9x, and UNIX. | Jul 21 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | They ported some of Windows to UNIX to get the Windows code in IE for UNIX to run. | Jul 21 06:40 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 06:41 |
| britney | Now there is Microsoft Edge for Linux | Jul 21 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | If you look in the directories, they just pretty much took C:\Windows\System32 (or most of it) and turned them into .so files instead of .dll. Even the names are the same. | Jul 21 06:41 |
| britney | You can get Edge, Powershell and Visual Studio Code for Linux | Jul 21 06:41 |
| britney | SQL server too | Jul 21 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | IE for UNIX isn't something many people used because it was almost impossible to keep it working. | Jul 21 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | If you didn't have the right "patch level" of Solaris, it would either crash IE or bring down the entire operating system as soon as you launched IE. | Jul 21 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what the situation was for HP-UX. | Jul 21 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | Probably just as bad. | Jul 21 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | Then the porting company, MainWin, leaked about a third of the source code to Windows NT4/2000. | Jul 21 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | They lost a laptop with Microsoft's porting kit on it from the IE for UNIX project. | Jul 21 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | And it spilled out onto the Internet. | Jul 21 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | So there's a lot of source code for Windows out there, at least earlier versions of it, floating around on the Internet. | Jul 21 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I think most of Windows XP leaked a couple of years ago. | Jul 21 06:44 |
| britney | i vaguely remember that | Jul 21 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | The funny part is that you get bugs that go all the way from Windows NT 3.1 to Windows 10 or 11, things like that. | Jul 21 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | Tavis Ormandy found a very serious security problem in NTVDM, the 16-bit version. | Jul 21 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | That doesn't affect Windows 11 though, and none of them do. | Jul 21 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | Why? Microsoft ripped out all compatibility with Windows 3.1 and earlier and DOS from Windows 11. There's no 32-bit version. | Jul 21 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | You can still run all kinds of Windows 3 software in Wine. | Jul 21 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | I have some. I have the Microsoft Entertainment Packs with things like Chip's Challenge. | Jul 21 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | It will still run Office 6. | Jul 21 06:47 |
| DaemonFC | George R.R. Martin still uses WordStar, for DOS, and it's not even the latest version. | Jul 21 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | I think someone set it up in DOSBox for him. | Jul 21 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | He said he tried to sit down and use Microsoft Office within the past several years and it was so bad it was stopping him from getting anything done. | Jul 21 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | So he went back and continued using WordStar. | Jul 21 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | I remember trying to do my school assignment, and this fucking paperclip pops up and asks if I need any help. | Jul 21 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up using StarOffice for a while. | Jul 21 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | There were no good, fully featured, office programs, back then. There was basically just Star and Corel if you didn't want to use Microsoft's. I already knew I didn't want to use Corel. | Jul 21 06:52 |
| britney | I liked WordPerfect | Jul 21 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | Corel was an interesting company that had a GNU/Linux distribution that went ahead and worked. It had some oddities. | Jul 21 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | They replaced the file manager from KDE with "Corel File Manager". I never did see why. | Jul 21 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | Corel's was proprietary. | Jul 21 06:53 |
| britney | WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows 3.x was amazing | Jul 21 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but that was Corel at their heyday. | Jul 21 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Later on it was just this bizarre office suite that cost a lot of money even though it had no Microsoft compatibility at all, and there was an activation server. | Jul 21 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | In the early 2000s, I wrote an article sharply critical of Windows XP. | Jul 21 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | It got quite a bit of traffic and I made some commission money on it. I don't think anything backed it up though when Epinions went under. | Jul 21 06:56 |
| britney | I think 6.1 might have been Novell | Jul 21 06:56 |
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| DaemonFC | Well, this probably explains something | Jul 21 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | Wikipedia says that SeaMonkey 2.5.13 is still based on Gecko 60.8. | Jul 21 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | I know they are behind and just backport this and that. | Jul 21 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | They are probably lying about being "Firefox 78" so that sites don't just cut them out entirely. | Jul 21 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | That probably explains why "web applications" aren't running so well. | Jul 21 07:19 |
| psydruid | the Windows XP that was only installed on family computers for playing games kept dying, so I got rid of it in favour of virtual machines | Jul 21 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | They're 3 ESRs behind. | Jul 21 07:19 |
| psydruid | Wine wasn't that good during those days | Jul 21 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.spam.com/recipes/korean-barbeque-spamburger-hamburger | Jul 21 07:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Korean Barbeque SPAMBURGER™ Hamburger | SPAM® Recipes | Jul 21 07:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Hey! I can make this! I have srirachi. I hoarded it as soon as I knew there was a shortage. | Jul 21 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'm dumping that shit on my eggs. I don't give a fuck! | Jul 21 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | *sriracha | Jul 21 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | Well, even if you don't have sriracha and can't afford the stupid price people want now that the stores are out of it, you could probably get by using gochujang and mayo. | Jul 21 07:22 |
| britney | sriracha is awesome | Jul 21 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | I want to make liver and onions. | Jul 21 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | Problem is that Mandy won't eat it. | Jul 21 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | I developed a taste for it when I was in Indiana and I ordered it at the MCL when we were down there. | Jul 21 07:23 |
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| DaemonFC | My parents didn't realize I'd ordered liver and onions for dinner and I took absolute delight in grossing them out by eating liver and onions and iced tea. I was about 8 or 9? They NEVER stopped me from ordering what I wanted off the menu anywhere after that. | Jul 21 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's one of those things that most people can't get over an instant aversion to that's actually quite good. | Jul 21 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | britney: Have you seen that old movie Defending Your Life? | Jul 21 07:26 |
| britney | no | Jul 21 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | He dies in a car wreck and goes to "Judgment City" where they put everyone on trial to see if they grew enough while they were on Earth to move on. | Jul 21 07:26 |
| britney | thats interesting | Jul 21 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | He's eating dinner with his lawyer and is curious as to what his lawyer is having. The lawyer says, "Oh you wouldn't like this!" so he gets more insistent on knowing what it is,so the lawyer says he can go ahead and try a bite. So he does, and he spits it out, and the lawyer says "A little bit like dog shit huh?". | Jul 21 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | He says, "How can you eat that!?" and the lawyer says "This tastes very different to me than it does to you!". Explains that people who use more of their brain perceive reality very differently from others. | Jul 21 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I've noticed that there may actually be something to that! | Jul 21 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | People with higher intelligence eating/drinking a larger variety of foods and beverages. | Jul 21 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | People with lower intelligence sticking to things they know. Simple things. | Jul 21 07:30 |
| britney | DaemonFC, would you ever try Crickets? | Jul 21 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | The whole movie was based on the trial being about getting over your fears, right? So the fear of embracing something new to eat? Why not? | Jul 21 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed my ex rarely deviated from pizza, fried chicken, and ravioli in a can./ | Jul 21 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | And when I tried to get him to have something else, he said "Oh I'm fine.". So we could never agree on what to eat even though I CAN cook, and we ate out a lot. | Jul 21 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | britneyDaemonFC, would you ever try Crickets? | Jul 21 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there's people who do eat crickets, and I suppose that they don't fall over dead. I hear that they're perfectly nutritious. | Jul 21 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | Properly prepared? I'd probably at least try it. Out of politeness. If I was somewhere and they offered me one. | Jul 21 07:32 |
| britney | there is something called cricket flour that you can make baked goods with | Jul 21 07:33 |
| britney | cricket brownies | Jul 21 07:33 |
| britney | cricket cookies | Jul 21 07:33 |
| britney | etc | Jul 21 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | I remember that scene in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. | Jul 21 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | "This is more than these people have had to eat in weeks. You're insulting them and you're embarrassing me, now eat it!". | Jul 21 07:34 |
| britney | DaemonFC, do you remember in Demolition Man when John Spartan had a rat burger? "Best damn burger I've had in years" | Jul 21 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it was true. | Jul 21 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | He had been frozen for over 20 years, right? | Jul 21 07:34 |
| britney | yeah | Jul 21 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | So the rat, being the only burger he'd had in years, was the best. | Jul 21 07:34 |
| britney | I don't think thats what he meant though | Jul 21 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | No, but it was also the truth. | Jul 21 07:35 |
| britney | he was speaking of how low quality the beef burgers were | Jul 21 07:35 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | Ehh, I'm not picky about my beef. | Jul 21 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing I won't eat are those Flanders All Beef Patties. | Jul 21 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | AKA Extra Value Beef Patties. | Jul 21 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart sells them. | Jul 21 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | I bought some going "These are cheap!" and I put them in my George Foreman grill. | Jul 21 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | I get all the toppings and buns and the cheese, and I'm all excited for my burgers. | Jul 21 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | And then this orange-ish reddish goo starts ooozing out of the Foreman. | Jul 21 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | It was about then that a sickening stench, almost like rotting meat, hit me. | Jul 21 07:37 |
| britney | :( | Jul 21 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | After going into the bathroom to vomit, I put them back in the freezer, and then returned them to the store next time I went there. | Jul 21 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | Oh those things are naaaaaaasty. | Jul 21 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | I love liver and onions, if it's a high quality beef liver. | Jul 21 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | The "beef patties" said they had heart, liver, lungs, and kidneys. | Jul 21 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "Oh my, oh no, no.". | Jul 21 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | They pressed dog food leftovers into patties and sell it to rednecks. | Jul 21 07:39 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 07:45 |
| britney | that sounds terribad | Jul 21 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Jul 21 07:47 |
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| DaemonFC | It seems SeaMonkey doesn't get along with Adwaita-Dark. | Jul 21 07:49 |
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| britney | I don't like how legacy apps don't work so good with adwaita-dark | Jul 21 07:55 |
| matey | /me considers all gnome to be legacy | Jul 21 07:57 |
| matey | a legacy of sabotage and user abuse | Jul 21 07:57 |
| matey | not to mention hypocrisy and narcissism | Jul 21 07:58 |
| matey | the problem isnt the "legacy" apps | Jul 21 07:58 |
| matey | its adwaita-dark, adwaita altogether, and the makers of adwaita | Jul 21 07:58 |
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| matey | also their parents, for spawning them (though if all else works out, perhaps they can be forgiven) | Jul 21 07:59 |
| britney | i want dark mode for all my apps | Jul 21 07:59 |
| matey | thats a reasonable thing to want | Jul 21 07:59 |
| matey | users used to have more control of their software | Jul 21 07:59 |
| matey | now theyre told to suck an egg and like it | Jul 21 08:00 |
| matey | because everything is open source, and open source has zero fucks to give | Jul 21 08:00 |
| matey | in fact if it had any fucks, it would only sell them to microsoft | Jul 21 08:00 |
| britney | look how dumb pan looks: https://imgur.com/a/R6D9ECC | Jul 21 08:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Jul 21 08:01 | |
| matey | thats because gnome 3 is a worthless bloated shit | Jul 21 08:02 |
| matey | February 23, 2022 — Pan 0.150 "Moucherotte" | Jul 21 08:02 |
| matey | Gtk3 is now default build, Gtk2 is deprecated | Jul 21 08:02 |
| matey | voila | Jul 21 08:02 |
| matey | gtk2: software does what you want | Jul 21 08:02 |
| matey | gtk3: you are your softwares bitch | Jul 21 08:02 |
| matey | gtk4: one ring to bind them all | Jul 21 08:03 |
| matey | gtk5: gtkde-shim | Jul 21 08:03 |
| matey | you cant expect them to make non-shitty software AND sabotage the entire movement on behalf of corporations | Jul 21 08:04 |
| matey | theyre busy, file a fuck report | Jul 21 08:04 |
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| matey | bug report, see if they give a bug | Jul 21 08:04 |
| britney | you're saying gnome is the way it is because of corporations? | Jul 21 08:05 |
| matey | im saying gnome has been sabotage since day 1 | Jul 21 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | SeaMonkey uses GTK3. | Jul 21 08:05 |
| matey | it helped ruin debian, it helped destroy the fsf, and it laughs at the users it makes miserable | Jul 21 08:05 |
| britney | What should I be using instead of Gnome? | Jul 21 08:05 |
| techrights-news | CLownflare is an ill-spirited bouncer for sites. A lot of sites are being malicious, discriminatory and uninviting WITHOUT MEANING to and WITHOUT REALISING it. | Jul 21 08:06 |
| matey | at this rate, probably the command line. but its had a dark mode for 70 years. | Jul 21 08:06 |
| britney | LOL | Jul 21 08:06 |
| matey | (rarely available on paper) | Jul 21 08:06 |
| matey | the truth is that most software has been fucked | Jul 21 08:06 |
| matey | so while im not serious about the command line | Jul 21 08:07 |
| matey | its probably the only real fix | Jul 21 08:07 |
| matey | in soviet russia, software freedom controls users. | Jul 21 08:08 |
| britney | https://www.enlightenment.org/ | Jul 21 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enlightenment.org | Enlightenment Main | Jul 21 08:08 | |
| matey | "has experimental Wayland support" | Jul 21 08:09 |
| matey | i dont give a shit about wayland, but some might | Jul 21 08:09 |
| matey | (i dont give a shit about them either, but they may not favour enlightenment if its wayland support isnt up to par) | Jul 21 08:10 |
| matey | i wont use it because github | Jul 21 08:10 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167485 | Jul 21 08:10 |
| matey | of course if youre trying to avoid github, your choices are probably... dwm | Jul 21 08:10 |
| bagira | welp. there's the appelbaum connection. it's a strong one, too. | Jul 21 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 08:10 | |
| matey | hi person i talked to recently | Jul 21 08:11 |
| bagira | yes this is a person | Jul 21 08:11 |
| matey | connection to whom | Jul 21 08:11 |
| matey | or what | Jul 21 08:12 |
| britney | lol so you won't run software if they have a github repo? | Jul 21 08:12 |
| matey | not its impossible to avoid | Jul 21 08:12 |
| matey | but i try to avoid software thats developed on github | Jul 21 08:12 |
| matey | mirrors idc | Jul 21 08:13 |
| britney | enlightenment uses self hosted gitea | Jul 21 08:13 |
| britney | https://git.enlightenment.org/ | Jul 21 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.enlightenment.org | Enlightenment GIT | Jul 21 08:13 | |
| matey | the fact that its impossible to avoid, and that microsoft controls it, really makes a joke out of people that pretend that microsoft has no leverage / assets it can do damage with | Jul 21 08:13 |
| matey | yeah englightment has their own git, which is cool | Jul 21 08:13 |
| matey | and imo not supporting wayland fully (or only experimentally) is a feature | Jul 21 08:14 |
| britney | I remember back in the day, like late 90s, when enlightenment was one of the best desktops | Jul 21 08:14 |
| matey | it was very nice while others were still... like they were | Jul 21 08:16 |
| matey | i never used it though | Jul 21 08:17 |
| matey | it was too weird | Jul 21 08:17 |
| matey | or at least seemed to be | Jul 21 08:17 |
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| techrights-news | "Hi Roy – As a special offer to TechRights, I can give a sneak preview of Dell’s new lineup of Linux-based Precision workstations for developers." http://techrights.org/2020/05/09/oem-gnu-linux-era/ | Jul 21 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free/Libre Software is Greener Pastures for Dell | Techrights | Jul 21 08:18 | |
| britney | my first distro was Redhat 5.2 which came with fvwm95 | Jul 21 08:18 |
| bagira | britney: can't share it yet. garrett was closer to the appelbaum thing than he was letting on the other day. im working on it. | Jul 21 08:18 |
| matey | i think i bought red hat 6 | Jul 21 08:18 |
| matey | but on my hardware it did no good | Jul 21 08:19 |
| matey | so i installed mandrake | Jul 21 08:19 |
| matey | which worked but did me no good for other reasons | Jul 21 08:19 |
| matey | garrett was closer to the appelbaum thing than he was letting on the other day. <- this isnt news | Jul 21 08:19 |
| matey | i believe hes rather open about it | Jul 21 08:19 |
| britney | i liked appelbaum, he has some good videos on youtube | Jul 21 08:20 |
| matey | but its possible at least youre referring to something differernt | Jul 21 08:20 |
| bagira | matey: link please | Jul 21 08:20 |
| matey | its not a link, he talked about it here | Jul 21 08:20 |
| matey | if its what i think youre referring to | Jul 21 08:20 |
| matey | and i couldnt guess what day-- now and then | Jul 21 08:20 |
| matey | probably again if you ask | Jul 21 08:20 |
| techrights-news | Dell laptops don't get much media coverage because they're good; that's just Dell throwing its "PR muscle" around... http://techrights.org/2020/05/09/oem-gnu-linux-era/ "Corrupt Media" as I call it... | Jul 21 08:20 |
| matey | let me guess... is the link corporate in nature? | Jul 21 08:21 |
| matey | this one was not | Jul 21 08:21 |
| matey | so if yours is, that would verify its different | Jul 21 08:21 |
| bagira | i have so little time these days due to a problem client that its pretty much sleep, work, eat, bathroom, 5 minutes of irc, repeat, and kind of all at the same time | Jul 21 08:21 |
| techrights-news | Dell basically prepared (with embargo) about a dozen "news" sites to do puff pieces about "Ubuntu" laptop... all at the same time | Jul 21 08:21 |
| matey | at least if you repeat the 5 minutes you get more time | Jul 21 08:22 |
| bagira | matey: i haven't seen any corporate links yet, no, but i also haven't built up data for that view | Jul 21 08:22 |
| bagira | right now im just soaking up content and making notes to get as many details as possible | Jul 21 08:23 |
| matey | one thing i think hes right about is that no one is going to "get" him for this | Jul 21 08:23 |
| techrights-news | 13 years ago: Why is Dell Sticking with Ballnux After Joining Novell/Microsoft Patent Deal? https://techrights.org/2009/02/14/dell-boots-linux-tax/ more in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Jul 21 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why is Dell Sticking with Ballnux After Joining Novell/Microsoft Patent Deal? | Techrights | Jul 21 08:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dell - Techrights | Jul 21 08:24 | |
| matey | theres a long list of people who dont care what his involvement is | Jul 21 08:24 |
| bagira | matey: well sure, that isn't the goal | Jul 21 08:24 |
| matey | and theyre the ones he pursues for employment, friendship, etc | Jul 21 08:24 |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/irc-log-200722/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/irc-log-200722/ | Jul 21 08:24 |
| matey | perhaps someday his karma will catch up but he probably wont ever notice | Jul 21 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 | Techrights | Jul 21 08:24 | |
| matey | most of his suffering is probably self-inflicted | Jul 21 08:25 |
| matey | and will remain that way | Jul 21 08:25 |
| bagira | it will probably become more clear where im going with this effort eventually | Jul 21 08:25 |
| matey | yeah no worries, my interest is mostly academic | Jul 21 08:25 |
| techrights-news | Using another CSS gemini://notat.smol.pub/1658381149 but GitHub is NOT Git. It's Microsoft's ATTACK on Git. | Jul 21 08:25 |
| matey | for free software to rebuild, it needs to know its history | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | this is an important part of its history | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | treachery is historical too (very in fact) | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | and there is a lot of treachery | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | debian ranked the highest in signatures | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | roy tried to say it was gnome FOUNDATION, not gnome itself | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | but gnome outnumbers gnome foundation | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | so at least its both. | Jul 21 08:26 |
| techrights-news | Four short-term wishes for Fedi gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fedi-wishlist | Jul 21 08:26 |
| matey | red hat is way up there, which i said in 2020 if not earlier | Jul 21 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | some gnome devs dissent against the foundation | Jul 21 08:27 |
| matey | then i kept getting quoted for that (which is fine but its out of date) | Jul 21 08:27 |
| matey | <schestowitz[TR2]> some gnome devs dissent against the foundation <- irrelevant | Jul 21 08:27 |
| matey | gnome is a dumpster fire with aids | Jul 21 08:27 |
| matey | some of the developers may not be horrible people | Jul 21 08:27 |
| bagira | im sure most of them are horrible people though | Jul 21 08:28 |
| matey | i think at least one signed the support letter, so good on them | Jul 21 08:28 |
| matey | im sure most of them are horrible people though <- you would almost have to be | Jul 21 08:28 |
| bagira | you can't manage a product like that without a horrible culture | Jul 21 08:28 |
| matey | a good person would feel guilty about working on gnome eventually | Jul 21 08:28 |
| matey | yeah that too | Jul 21 08:28 |
| bagira | debian leadership is not far away | Jul 21 08:29 |
| bagira | neil mcgovern comes to mind | Jul 21 08:29 |
| matey | 108 debian signatures by my count | Jul 21 08:29 |
| matey | a gnome contributor counted more | Jul 21 08:29 |
| matey | neil mcgovern had already signed in 2018 | Jul 21 08:29 |
| matey | before there was a letter | Jul 21 08:30 |
| bagira | im like 95% in belief that molly de blanc was neil mcgovern's patsy for that campaign | Jul 21 08:30 |
| techrights-news | This portal seems to have been abandoned. Borisnaro left us to die with COVID-19 (1000+ deaths a week now) https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022 | Jul 21 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Weekly all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK | Jul 21 08:30 | |
| matey | i think theres something like consensus on that | Jul 21 08:30 |
| matey | maybe its speculation. or maybe the sky is blue (but doesnt code) | Jul 21 08:30 |
| techrights-news | "Deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate registered in the week ending 08 July 2022 are not available for Northern Ireland. The UK total number includes England, Scotland and Wales only." https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/whats-new/record/0be68954-2eea-4cbc-a136-33d8020c98c3 | Jul 21 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/whats-new/record/0be68954-2eea-4cbc-a136-33d8020c98c3 ) | Jul 21 08:30 | |
| matey | they say the sky is blue, but perhaps it changed since i looked | Jul 21 08:30 |
| matey | i bet twitter knows | Jul 21 08:31 |
| bagira | kind of hard to investigate that group though | Jul 21 08:31 |
| bagira | those circles of debian are very hard to get near and if you ask any questions they blacklist fast. hasn't happened to me yet but ive seen it alot | Jul 21 08:32 |
| matey | debian isnt coming back | Jul 21 08:32 |
| techrights-news | It has now been OVER 2 MONTHS (last update May 19) since we last had figures for UK-wide COVID-19 deaths by date. Borisnario does not want people to know how bad it really became. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths | Jul 21 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths ) | Jul 21 08:32 | |
| matey | its basically gnome os at this point | Jul 21 08:32 |
| bagira | its degrading too, the new gtk dropped glade support iirc | Jul 21 08:33 |
| bagira | aka: no designer | Jul 21 08:33 |
| matey | the number of gtk4 apps im willing to install is practically none | Jul 21 08:33 |
| bagira | you mean gtk5 right lol | Jul 21 08:33 |
| matey | i only use gtk3 apps under protest | Jul 21 08:33 |
| matey | wow, did they skip gtk4 already? | Jul 21 08:34 |
| bagira | jeez man what are you running, slackware? | Jul 21 08:34 |
| matey | openbsd | Jul 21 08:34 |
| matey | so close enough | Jul 21 08:34 |
| bagira | oh lol | Jul 21 08:34 |
| bagira | yeah pretty much | Jul 21 08:34 |
| matey | theres a guy here who develops a pretty elaborate gtk4 application | Jul 21 08:34 |
| matey | but it uses gtk4, so... no | Jul 21 08:35 |
| matey | i dont blame him | Jul 21 08:35 |
| matey | gtk4 is just something i never want to use. and ill get as close to that as i possibly can | Jul 21 08:35 |
| bagira | i apologize, im old and was thinking of kde5 not gtk5, they're still on 4 | Jul 21 08:35 |
| matey | oh ok | Jul 21 08:35 |
| matey | no worries, that makes more sense | Jul 21 08:36 |
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| matey | i thought gtk4 should have a chance to rub users noses in it | Jul 21 08:36 |
| matey | before they go deprecating it too | Jul 21 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, Walmart employee discount works on Low Sodium V8, but not regular V8. | Jul 21 08:36 |
| *bagira slowly transforms into a boomer | Jul 21 08:36 | |
| DaemonFC | Low Sodium it is then. | Jul 21 08:36 |
| bagira | sodium is for rich people | Jul 21 08:37 |
| bagira | know your place | Jul 21 08:37 |
| matey | lol | Jul 21 08:37 |
| britney | slowly turns into a boomer? | Jul 21 08:38 |
| matey | EFL powers Samsung Galaxy Watch smartwatches and is behind Samsung Smart Televisions <- i guess this technically isnt enlightnments fault | Jul 21 08:38 |
| britney | you know what sucks about irc? it doesn't use 1000mb of ram like discord | Jul 21 08:42 |
| bnchs | you know what sucks about irc? it doesn't ask for your phone number like discord | Jul 21 08:43 |
| bagira | in all fairness discord isn't a stinking cesspool as a tradeoff | Jul 21 08:43 |
| bagira | like | Jul 21 08:43 |
| bagira | if you just roam around the irc world | Jul 21 08:43 |
| bagira | you're statistically gauranteed to be the ball in a pinball game, getting knocked around by giant dick flippers | Jul 21 08:44 |
| matey | thats pretty much what its like here, except youre given pretty much unlimited quarters | Jul 21 08:44 |
| britney | https://imgur.com/a/mRqWb1s | Jul 21 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Jul 21 08:45 | |
| bagira | ram is easy these days | Jul 21 08:46 |
| matey | /me thinks "dick flipper" has potential as an insult if you can say it with a straight face | Jul 21 08:46 |
| bagira | i have 64 on this box | Jul 21 08:46 |
| britney | I have 16GB | Jul 21 08:46 |
| techrights-news | We May Have Just Passed 200,000 Victims of COVID-19 in the United Kingdom https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/21/200000-brits-dead-with-coronavirus/ | Jul 21 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » We May Have Just Passed 200,000 Victims of COVID-19 in the United Kingdom | Jul 21 08:46 | |
| matey | neil mcgovern is a dick flipper | Jul 21 08:47 |
| bagira | the introsion detection system has banned just thousands of IPs since AO was launched | Jul 21 08:47 |
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| bagira | *intrusion | Jul 21 08:47 |
| bagira | almost all of them trying to abuse ssh | Jul 21 08:48 |
| techrights-news | 3 Most Underrated Linux Distros Deserving More Recognition ⚓ https://linuxiac.com/most-underrated-linux-distros/ ䷉ Source: linuxiac | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxiac.com/most-underrated-linux-distros/ | Jul 21 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | 3 Most Underrated Linux Distros Deserving More Recognition | Jul 21 08:48 | |
| matey | ao is cool | Jul 21 08:49 |
| matey | im pretty sure any public server will be like that though | Jul 21 08:49 |
| bagira | im excited about some of the content in the pipeline | Jul 21 08:49 |
| bagira | no man none of my other stuff gets hit like this | Jul 21 08:49 |
| matey | i ran a gopher server once-- with fail2ban | Jul 21 08:49 |
| matey | none of my other stuff gets hit like this <- cool then | Jul 21 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "CentOS 7 reaches end of life" ☛ https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/application-modernization/introducing-rocky-linux-optimized-for-google-cloud | | Jul 21 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cloud.google.com | Introducing Rocky Linux Optimized for Google Cloud | Google Cloud Blog | Jul 21 08:50 | |
| techrights-news | "For those who have been paying attention to the Game of Trees" ☛ https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220720220958 | Source: Undeadly | Jul 21 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | Game of Trees 0.74 released | Jul 21 08:50 | |
| bagira | yeah we added bootstrap support to the markdown generator so we'll be able to use tags for various types of notes | Jul 21 08:50 |
| bagira | its hilarious how primitive the tech stack is under it | Jul 21 08:50 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary bubble, propped up by US taxpayers ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/20/23271634/google-hiring-pause-two-weeks-review-headcount-needs | Source: The Verge | Jul 21 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google pauses hiring for two weeks to ‘review our headcount needs’ - The Verge | Jul 21 08:51 | |
| techrights-news | "reached a “provisional agreement” on a new landmark regulatory framework for cryptocurrencies." ☛ https://www.computerworld.com/article/3667281/will-new-eu-crypto-rules-change-how-ransomware-is-played.html | Source: Computer World | Jul 21 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Will new EU crypto rules change how ransomware is played? | Computerworld | Jul 21 08:51 | |
| matey | next up: gemini support | Jul 21 08:52 |
| bagira | crypto can't be regulated lol | Jul 21 08:52 |
| bagira | its designed not to be | Jul 21 08:52 |
| matey | canadian crypto cant be | Jul 21 08:52 |
| bagira | thats why when shiba inu hits a penny i'm going to buy an internet backbone and rule over the interwebs | Jul 21 08:53 |
| britney | lol | Jul 21 08:53 |
| techrights-news | Many scripted Dell 'articles' after embargo http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167482#comment-34399 | Jul 21 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 21 08:55 | |
| britney | Certified for Shit 22.04 LTS | Jul 21 08:55 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary software and corrupt both need to go, even at the same time. They're connected. | Jul 21 08:57 |
| techrights-news | "Brendan Carr, the commissioner of the FCC" ☛ https://blog.malwarebytes.com/privacy-2/2022/07/tiktok-is-unacceptable-security-risk-and-should-be-removed-from-app-stores-says-fcc/ | Source: Malwarebytes Labs | Jul 21 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.malwarebytes.com | TikTok is "unacceptable security risk" and should be removed from app stores, says FCC | Malwarebytes Labs | Jul 21 08:58 | |
| techrights-news | "An official said that passengers would barely notice they were being checked as they walked to the exit." ☛ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/breeze-through-border-control-in-contactless-corridors-cqlbcbdvt | Source: The Sunday Times UK | Jul 21 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | Breeze through border control in ‘contactless corridors’ | News | The Times | Jul 21 08:58 | |
| techrights-news | How about no? ☛ https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tourists-must-send-photo-faces-27535311 | Source: Mirror UK | Jul 21 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Tourists must send photo of faces to Home Office before visiting UK from next year - Mirror Online | Jul 21 08:58 | |
| techrights-news | "Perhaps the most well-known rule about passports is that you can not smile in your photograph." ☛ https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1642110/Passports-application-rejected-photograph-reasons-evg | Source: Express | Jul 21 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Passports: 5 'unexpected' photo mistakes that could see your passport application rejected | Travel News | Travel | Express.co.uk | Jul 21 08:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▄▃▅▅▄▅▆▅▂▇▅▇▅▆▅▇▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▇▇▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.78▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 08:59 |
| techrights-news | "submit biometric details through a smartphone app" ☛ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-contactless-corridors-border-control-b2127885.html | Source: The Independent UK | Jul 21 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Home Office to pilot ‘contactless corridors’ to allow travelers to breeze through border control | The Independent | Jul 21 08:59 | |
| techrights-news | "it’s not about where the data are stored, but who has access." ☛ https://theconversation.com/even-if-tiktok-and-other-apps-are-collecting-your-data-what-are-the-actual-consequences-187277 | Source: The Conversation | Jul 21 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Even if TikTok and other apps are collecting your data, what are the actual consequences? | Jul 21 09:00 | |
| bagira | its kind of f*cking stupid that coinbase lists currencies under the trade category that it doesnt actually let you place trades in | Jul 21 09:00 |
| techrights-news | "Secret Service employees were supposed to manually back up" ☛ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/19/politics/secret-service-texts-national-archives/index.html | Source: CNN | Jul 21 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Secret Service gives thousands of documents to January 6 committee, but hasn't yet recovered potentially missing texts - CNNPolitics | Jul 21 09:01 | |
| techrights-news | Tesla down the drain ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/20/23271834/tesla-q2-2022-earnings-elon-musk | Source: The Verge | Jul 21 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Tesla Q2 2022 report shows crypto sell-off, decrease in profits - The Verge | Jul 21 09:04 | |
| matey | the data for comparison / context isnt useful? | Jul 21 09:04 |
| matey | oh under the trade category | Jul 21 09:04 |
| techuser | hi | Jul 21 09:07 |
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| techuser | hope the nick changes are logged, but if they don't, I'm SomeH4x0r | Jul 21 09:07 |
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| britney | techuser, please dont haxx0r me | Jul 21 09:08 |
| matey | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390374/ | Jul 21 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em: The Movie (Video 1990) - IMDb | Jul 21 09:15 | |
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| techrights-news | American Data Privacy ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3567822-house-panel-advances-landmark-federal-data-privacy-bill/ | Source: The Hill | Jul 21 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | House panel advances landmark federal data privacy bill | The Hill | Jul 21 09:28 | |
| techrights-news | "they would delay or cut" ☛ https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4601282 | Source: Taiwan News | Jul 21 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | US Senate moves closer to passing CHIPS Act | Taiwan News | 2022-07-20 15:55:00 | Jul 21 09:28 | |
| techrights-news | Graft: "subsidies and tax credits" (not to homeless people but to BILLIONAIRES!) ☛ https://www.reuters.com/technology/months-later-us-senate-tries-again-computer-chip-bill-compete-with-china-2022-07-19/ | Source: Reuters | Jul 21 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Senate votes to move ahead on chip bill to compete with China | Reuters | Jul 21 09:29 | |
| techrights-news | Misinformation/Disinformation ☛ https://variety.com/2022/digital/global/instagram-tiktok-youtube-uk-teen-news-1235321760/ Misinformation/Disinformation come from BBC too, but it's for the oligarchs, so that's cool!! | Jul 21 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Instagram, TikTok Top News Sources for U.K. Teens, Ousting BBC - Variety | Jul 21 09:29 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 21 09:30 |
| techrights-news | And BillBC hides the fact that Bill Gates turned to Jeffrey Epstein for kids... when Gates was bribing BBC (meant to be funded by and for the public) ☛ https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62238307 | Jul 21 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Teens shun traditional news channels for TikTok and Instagram, Ofcom says - BBC News | Jul 21 09:31 | |
| techrights-news | From one form of brainwash to another ☛ https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/uk-teens-shun-traditional-news-tiktok-instagram-regulator-2022-07-20/ | Source: Reuters | Jul 21 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK teens shun traditional news for TikTok, Instagram - regulator | Reuters | Jul 21 09:31 | |
| techrights-news | So-called "blasphemy" ☛ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-62243068 | Source: BillBC, where mentioning that the bribe giver of the BBC, Bill Gates, is enabling pedophiles is considered "conspiracy theory or "blasphemy" | Jul 21 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Killed for blasphemy in Nigeria: 'It felt like a spear pierced my heart' - BBC News | Jul 21 09:36 | |
| techrights-news | Uber should cease to even exist. But not before they detain and prosecute the executives. ☛ https://the-blindspot.com/spotlight-on-the-uber-files/ | | Jul 21 09:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-blindspot.com | Spotlight on the 'Uber Files' - The Blind Spot | Jul 21 09:37 | |
| techrights-news | Internet Policy ☛ https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/07/utility-pole-owners-should-test-structures-before-delivery-of-federal-funds-consulting-firm/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast | Jul 21 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Utility Pole Owners Should Test Structures Before Delivery of Federal Funds: Consulting Firm : Broadband Breakfast | Jul 21 09:40 | |
| techrights-news | Digital Restrictions (DRM) implosion ☛ https://text.npr.org/1112335543 | Source: NPR | Jul 21 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Netflix loses nearly 1 million subscribers. That's the good news | Jul 21 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | "analysts response was more mixed" ☛ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflix-analysts-earnings-subscribers-advertising-tier-1235182902/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter | Jul 21 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Netflix Q2 2022 Earnings: Wall Street Debates Results – The Hollywood Reporter | Jul 21 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | "The solution for the end of the backend era is a newly imagined model of deal-making." ☛ https://variety.com/2022/tv/features/ownership-cover-hollywood-tv-creatives-wga-sag-dga-1235319528/ | Source: Variety | Jul 21 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TV Creatives Fight Over Pay Changes in the Streaming Era - Variety | Jul 21 10:02 | |
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| techrights-news | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Now Available with Ubuntu 22.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167482#comment-34400 | Jul 21 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 21 10:31 | |
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| psydruid | "We came, we saw, he died" - Killary Ruthless Killer | Jul 21 10:46 |
| techrights-news | Linux-Based Digital Signage Solutions: Pros & Cons • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167486 | Jul 21 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-Based Digital Signage Solutions: Pros & Cons | Tux Machines | Jul 21 10:46 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167487 | Jul 21 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 10:46 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: "liberal" | Jul 21 10:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "liberated" Lybia | Jul 21 10:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Libya | Jul 21 10:46 |
| techrights-news | "Rob is asking themself the same question and comes to a similar conclusion that i do. what the frack do i want to do with my life? what is it that's fulfilling and gives me meaning? " gemini://tilde.pink/~maria/log/2022-07-21_re_professional_goals.gmi | Jul 21 10:54 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▄▃▅▅▄▅▆▅▂▇▅▇▅▆▅▇▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▇▇▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.78▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 10:59 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | hi, techuser | Jul 21 11:09 |
| techuser | hi | Jul 21 11:10 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | techuser: new here? | Jul 21 11:22 |
| techuser | no, I'm SomeH4x0r | Jul 21 11:22 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ah, makes sense now | Jul 21 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | very generic name | Jul 21 11:23 |
| techuser | I can't think of a good one | Jul 21 11:23 |
| techuser | but I'm not a hacker either | Jul 21 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | are you coding? | Jul 21 11:25 |
| techuser | no | Jul 21 11:25 |
| matey | why not | Jul 21 11:25 |
| matey | being in the free software community and not coding-- no matter how welcome you are either way-- is like hanging out everyday at a small airport and never taking the yoke of a plane | Jul 21 11:26 |
| matey | (ive never trained as a pilot, but ive at least flown) | Jul 21 11:27 |
| matey | but youve coded in c | Jul 21 11:27 |
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| matey | what you havent done is found a language that does something fun and/or useful to you | Jul 21 11:28 |
| matey | bash and python seem like obvious ones, since either would help you with the tasks you work on already | Jul 21 11:28 |
| matey | you could throw in perl, i suppose | Jul 21 11:28 |
| matey | and if youre going to be doing school for it, practicing now (even a little) would help with that | Jul 21 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Reasons | Jul 21 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.mozilla.org | SeaMonkey:Reasons - MozillaWiki | Jul 21 11:31 | |
| DaemonFC | When porting Firefox patches to SeaMonkey, I've had them be rejected because the code quality I copied wasn't good enough, so they had to be cleaned up. I really don't like the way the "lead Firefox developer" (Ben Goodger - in quotes because that title is really unfair to the other Firefox devs) does his big patches... in the cases I've looked at, he checked in patches that either were... | Jul 21 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | ...entirely broken (when he rewrote the options dialog, it didn't work at all and was mostly invisible (see-through, I'm not kidding)), or full of bugs that a few minutes of testing would find (the info bar that alerts you to blocked popups, blocked extensions, missing plugins, etc. had a lot of bugs I came across when I ported it to SeaMonkey). | Jul 21 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | --- | Jul 21 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ben Goodger works on Google Chrome now according to Wikipedia. | Jul 21 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | That was supposed to be in quotes. Hmmmm. | Jul 21 11:31 |
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| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/20/severe-censorship "How a new law against ‘denying family values’ would spell disaster for the Russian literary market" | Jul 21 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Jul 21 11:35 | |
| XRevan86 | https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/21/a78363 | Jul 21 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Russian Search Engines to Label Wikipedia as ‘War Fakes’ Spreader - The Moscow Times | Jul 21 11:36 | |
| XRevan86 | https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/21/7359323/ | Jul 21 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pravda.com.ua | Russians are attacking Kharkiv: there are fatalities and casualties | Ukrainska Pravda | Jul 21 11:37 | |
| techrights-news | Hands-on With openSUSE MicroOS - Adaptable Linux Platform [First Look] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167488 | Jul 21 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-on With openSUSE MicroOS - Adaptable Linux Platform [First Look] | Tux Machines | Jul 21 11:37 | |
| techrights-news | What Do After Installing Kubuntu 22.04 and KDE Plasma 5.24 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167489 | Jul 21 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Do After Installing Kubuntu 22.04 and KDE Plasma 5.24 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 11:37 | |
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| techrights-news | Dell Wants Free Marketing of Its GNU/Linux (Preloaded) Laptops, But It Should Help With Advertising, Including in the Front Page of Its Web Site | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/dell-embargoes/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/dell-embargoes/ | Jul 21 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dell Wants Free Marketing of Its GNU/Linux (Preloaded) Laptops, But It Should Help With Advertising, Including in the Front Page of Its Web Site | Techrights | Jul 21 11:56 | |
| psydroid2 | screw Dell | Jul 21 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | dhell | Jul 21 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | as MinceR calls them | Jul 21 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but hey | Jul 21 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | if they start pro-gnu/linux makreting capaigns | Jul 21 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we too can benmefit | Jul 21 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | nothing to lose by asking | Jul 21 11:57 |
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| techrights-news | Git and Gemini: the Core of the New Sites (With Our Own CMS Running on Alpine) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/git-and-gemini/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/git-and-gemini/ | Jul 21 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Git and Gemini: the Core of the New Sites (With Our Own CMS Running on Alpine) | Techrights | Jul 21 12:16 | |
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| techrights-news | 'After' COVID-19 it's CapitalismAsUsual, so we should expect no better from climate response. Humans are very competent at driving themselves to extinction. Then, remaining species can say, "well, at least they became "rich" in the process" (man-made concept). | Jul 21 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://i.imgur.com/iLakZK4.png | Jul 21 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | There's a GTK integration theme for Seamonkey that still works. :) | Jul 21 12:23 |
| techrights-news | We're meant to think COVID-19 is something in the past, but this is the WORST summer by FAR!! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/21/200000-brits-dead-with-coronavirus/ | Jul 21 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » We May Have Just Passed 200,000 Victims of COVID-19 in the United Kingdom | Jul 21 12:23 | |
| techrights-news | We’ve been Building Back Better so far this month; with site migrations ongoing the plan is to further expand the use of Git (self-hosted) and add support to facilitate Gemini, perhaps along with other emergent protocols http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/git-and-gemini/ | Jul 21 12:24 |
| techrights-news | It’s fine that Dell offers people hardware without Windows; but it would be nicer if Dell also actively marketed GNU/Linux as a Windows substitute http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/dell-embargoes/ | Jul 21 12:24 |
| techrights-news | "We cover events and user groups that are running in the US state of Arkansas. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-arkansas/ | Jul 21 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Around The World: USA - Arkansas - LinuxLinks | Jul 21 12:25 | |
| DaemonFC | They usually charge more to be rid of Windows from the get go. | Jul 21 12:25 |
| *psydroid2 notices both Dell and Intel rhyme with hell | Jul 21 12:28 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: Bell was also a monopoly | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: or different specs | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I mention it in the video | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they make GNUJ/Linux SEEM cheaper | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but the specs are worse | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the "non-windows surplus" | Jul 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you PAY MORE for NOT having something | Jul 21 12:31 |
| techrights-news | Entertainment Choices gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-07-20-entertainment-choices.gmi | Jul 21 12:31 |
| psydroid2 | I'm watching the video now | Jul 21 12:32 |
| earthling | the netsurf-motif port... it's there to hack with | Jul 21 12:33 |
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| earthling | if anyone wanted to help, it compiles, it runs, and it crashes still | Jul 21 12:33 |
| earthling | very buggy, yet i think it is possible, to bring it back | Jul 21 12:34 |
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| techrights-news | "Librem 5 USA orders"... not even made in USA, maybe assembled there ☛ https://puri.sm/posts/anti-interdiction-on-the-librem-5-usa/ | Source: Purism | Jul 21 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Anti-Interdiction on The Librem 5 USA – Purism | Jul 21 12:34 | |
| earthling | for, it has no practical benefit anymore, in comparison to text-mode browsers | Jul 21 12:34 |
| techrights-news | Does Librem think "USA" is a badge of freedom? See NSA leaks. | Jul 21 12:35 |
| earthling | none of the "free software" browsers lynx/links/w3m/netsurf are sufficient for online banking | Jul 21 12:35 |
| earthling | not important for me either | Jul 21 12:35 |
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| techrights-news | "This comprehensive guide explains what is Docker Desktop and how to install Docker Desktop in Linux" ☛ https://ostechnix.com/docker-desktop-for-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix | Jul 21 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Beginners Manual To Docker Desktop For Linux - OSTechNix | Jul 21 12:36 | |
| earthling | what's worse, many job advertisements are published online, with web-sites which require certain browser versions | Jul 21 12:36 |
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| earthling | so, with "free software" browsers such as the ones mentioned, those are locked out from online job portals mostly | Jul 21 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | That's not a mistake. | Jul 21 12:37 |
| techrights-news | Enough "added value"? Use another distro? ☛ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/5-ways-take-advantage-your-red-hat-tam-subscription | Source: Red Hat Official | Jul 21 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 5 ways to take advantage of your Red Hat TAM subscription | Jul 21 12:37 | |
| earthling | it is important to distinguish, of cause, what is referred to with free software browsers, lynx/links/w3m/netsurf | Jul 21 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | The banks push the latest version of the major browsers. | Jul 21 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | So much that they often don't even like it if you use Firefox ESR. | Jul 21 12:37 |
| techrights-news | Training for a BRAND means becoming enslaved by that brand ☛ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/explore-flexible-training-offerings-red-hat | Source: Red Hat Official | Jul 21 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Explore flexible training offerings with Red Hat | Jul 21 12:38 | |
| earthling | btw. even if i wasn't concerned about "free software", any of the typical browsers are unacceptable nonetheless | Jul 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: they don't know what esr is | Jul 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | neither the person not the verion | Jul 21 12:39 |
| earthling | i won't ever again install any of this on either a windows computer (which i haven't got), nor on linux | Jul 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *nor | Jul 21 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | SeaMonkey is hopelessly outdated in some ways. | Jul 21 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | Gecko changes too much to stay current. | Jul 21 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | So they tend to the corpse. | Jul 21 12:39 |
| techrights-news | Delete Shithub https://nusenu.github.io/OrNetStats/#tor-version-distribution-relays | Jul 21 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nusenu.github.io | OrNetStats | OrNetStats | Jul 21 12:39 | |
| schestowitz | n | Jul 21 12:40 |
| schestowitz | x https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/did-microsoft-block-linux-on-new:1 | Jul 21 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Did Microsoft Block Linux On New Thinkpads?!? | Jul 21 12:40 | |
| schestowitz | # quotes mjg, apologizing for M$ and downplaying both the problem and the | Jul 21 12:40 |
| schestowitz | # direction things have been heading | Jul 21 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz You're not even a Wiki!!!!1111111one | Jul 21 12:40 |
| earthling | imagine this, not writing an article "living with free software" | Jul 21 12:41 |
| earthling | instead it is "Dying with Free Software" | Jul 21 12:42 |
| techrights-news | Is the IP Address Still a Privacy Threat in 2022? ⚓ https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/ip-2022:a ䷉ Source: RobBraxmanTech | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/ip-2022:a | Jul 21 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Is the IP Address Still a Privacy Threat in 2022? | Jul 21 12:42 | |
| earthling | first and foremost, NO access to online job portals | Jul 21 12:42 |
| earthling | it isn't difficult to imagine what argument followed | Jul 21 12:42 |
| earthling | "dumbfuck, too stupid, can't install a web browser. wait, a real professional does install this in a minute, knowing what he's doing" | Jul 21 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security#TLS_1.0 | Jul 21 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Transport Layer Security - Wikipedia | Jul 21 12:43 | |
| DaemonFC | the renaming from "SSL" to "TLS", were a face-saving gesture to Microsoft, "so it wouldn't look [like] the IETF was just rubberstamping Netscape's protocol". | Jul 21 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | ^ LOL | Jul 21 12:43 |
| techrights-news | reuters blocks firefox, but... https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/uk-teens-shun-traditional-news-tiktok-instagram-regulator-2022-07-20/ | Jul 21 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK teens shun traditional news for TikTok, Instagram - regulator | Reuters | Jul 21 12:44 | |
| techrights-news | "According to Downdetector.com, there were more than 4,800 cases of customers reporting troubles with Microsoft Teams." ⚓ ䷉ Source: cio | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/enterprise-services-and-applications/microsoft-teams-down-for-thousands-of-users/93018616 | Jul 21 12:45 |
| techrights-news | Estonia’s HIMARS to considerably hike the price of aggression for Russia | News | ERR ⚓ https://news.err.ee/1608660622/estonia-s-himars-to-considerably-hike-the-price-of-aggression-for-russia ䷉ Source: news | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.err.ee/1608660622/estonia-s-himars-to-considerably-hike-the-price-of-aggression-for-russia | Jul 21 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | Estonia's HIMARS to considerably hike the price of aggression for Russia | News | ERR | Jul 21 12:45 | |
| earthling | going ahead with such discussions, because it's easier to visualize | Jul 21 12:47 |
| earthling | if the entire industry is wrecked | Jul 21 12:47 |
| earthling | picking up some z80, gigatron with (A)X.25 whatever, and disconnect the internet then | Jul 21 12:48 |
| earthling | ordering some book and electronics parts... | Jul 21 12:49 |
| techrights-news | I heard is from the inside weeks ago https://www.geekwire.com/2022/microsoft-eliminates-open-jobs-amid-economic-downturn/ see also http://techrights.org/2022/06/11/geekwire-doxing/ | Jul 21 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft eliminates open jobs amid economic downturn – GeekWire | Jul 21 12:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GeekWire and Todd Bishop: Doxing for Microsoft | Techrights | Jul 21 12:49 | |
| earthling | how did they do it in 1969, space program, when TTL7400 were common? | Jul 21 12:49 |
| techrights-news | chromebook https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.datatilsynet.dk/afgoerelser/afgoerelser/2022/jul/datatilsynet-nedlaegger-behandlingsforbud-i-chromebook-sag- | Jul 21 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-datatilsynet-dk.translate.goog | Datatilsynet nedlægger behandlingsforbud i Chromebook-sag | Jul 21 12:50 | |
| earthling | engineers from that era with their equipment, books and skills probably would end up under the bridge injecting drugs nowadays | Jul 21 12:51 |
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| earthling | it is rather framed into some "social" "ecological" "racial" narrative, to explain this | Jul 21 12:52 |
| earthling | when instead it is a technical question, if any of the current technology was suitable to work | Jul 21 12:52 |
| earthling | at least to have access to job placement | Jul 21 12:52 |
| techrights-news | "Manjaro is a modern and user-friendly Arch-based Linux distribution" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/install-manjaro-xfce/ | Source: TecMint | Jul 21 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Installation of Manjaro 21 (XFCE Edition) Desktop | Jul 21 12:53 | |
| earthling | it is no coincidence, the new "quality" of technology products, is advertised together with this "diversity" quackery | Jul 21 12:53 |
| techrights-news | "I often write the Readme file and Install instructions" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/fmt-trivial-text-formatter | Source: OpenSource.com | Jul 21 12:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I use the Linux fmt command to format text | Opensource.com | Jul 21 12:54 | |
| techrights-news | "Teams require some kind of process to coordinate work" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/design-thinking-process | Source: OpenSource.com | Jul 21 12:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Build Design Thinking into your team processes | Opensource.com | Jul 21 12:54 | |
| techrights-news | "If you already tried to package ROS 2 Foxy applications into snaps" ☛ https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-to-use-ros-2-shared-memory-in-snaps | Source: Ubuntu | Jul 21 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to use ROS 2 shared memory in snaps | Ubuntu | Jul 21 12:56 | |
| techrights-news | "In this tutorial, we are going to explain in step-by-step detail how to install Laravel" ☛ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-laravel-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting | Jul 21 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Install Laravel on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting | Jul 21 12:56 | |
| techrights-news | "Installing Apache requires the installation of a complete LAMP package (Linux, Apache, MySQL and, PHP)" ☛ https://vitux.com/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-linux-mint/ | Source: Vitux | Jul 21 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://vitux.com/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-linux-mint/ ) | Jul 21 12:57 | |
| earthling | even if, i could start another test balloon, and see to what i got access to, with some free software only | Jul 21 12:57 |
| earthling | it isn't of any interest to anyone | Jul 21 12:58 |
| techrights-news | "SUSE and the openSUSE community have a steering committee and several Work Groups (WG) collectively innovating" ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/07/20/community-wg-discusses-next-edition/ | | Jul 21 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | Community Work Group Discusses Next Edition - openSUSE News | Jul 21 12:58 | |
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| techrights-news | Global warning is WARNING to x86: "Valve put up a bit of a notice / warning recently, one for those of you experiencing a heat wave and trying to game on the Steam Deck might want to keep a note of." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/valve-warns-about-steam-deck-temperatures-plus-a-deck-beta-update-out/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve warns about Steam Deck temperatures, plus a Deck Beta Update out | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:00 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: ^^ | Jul 21 13:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1) it causes warming | Jul 21 13:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 2) it's exxpensive (energy prices soared) | Jul 21 13:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3) it won't work when it's hot, i.e. in the future | Jul 21 13:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and this is what Windows targets... | Jul 21 13:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so.. | Jul 21 13:00 |
| psydroid2 | there are no more excuses for Windows either with the arrival of non-x86 laptops and malware developer tools, but it will probably take them 5-10 years to move on from x86 | Jul 21 13:01 |
| psydroid2 | yes | Jul 21 13:01 |
| psydroid2 | that's why I only buy x86 as needed | Jul 21 13:02 |
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| psydroid2 | and probably used going forward | Jul 21 13:02 |
| earthling | they're still proud of this... as if this was any "innovation", "progress", a future perspective, job motor whatnot | Jul 21 13:04 |
| psydroid2 | if you don't keep up with garbage tech your skills are "obsolete" | Jul 21 13:06 |
| earthling | it is "free", "educational", "diversity" etc. etc. ... | Jul 21 13:06 |
| earthling | not only obsolete, it's racist then, to say it is technical rubbish | Jul 21 13:07 |
| psydroid2 | indeed | Jul 21 13:07 |
| psydroid2 | racist against the machine | Jul 21 13:07 |
| earthling | even if, free software intended to offer entertainment, multimedia and video games | Jul 21 13:08 |
| techrights-news | Avorion ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/visit-a-new-dimension-in-the-avorion-into-the-rift-expansion/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Visit a new dimension in the Avorion - Into The Rift expansion | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:09 | |
| earthling | it's none of my concerns, nonetheless, even then, the technical decisions made by companies such as Valve are insane | Jul 21 13:09 |
| techrights-news | GNU/Linux support ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/fantasy-metroidvania-nara-facing-fire-blends-hollow-knight-and-ori/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fantasy metroidvania Nara: Facing Fire blends Hollow Knight and Ori | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:09 | |
| psydroid2 | they have technical debt and ties with the hardware industry | Jul 21 13:10 |
| earthling | and linux, already got what was necessary: libsdl1,fbcon 15 years ago already | Jul 21 13:10 |
| psydroid2 | so I don't expect anything to change on that front | Jul 21 13:10 |
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| psydroid2 | not that other game companies are better, those are even worse | Jul 21 13:10 |
| techrights-news | BrainDead Broccoli... what a name ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/classic-inspired-brawler-pulling-no-punches-arrives-on-august-10/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Classic inspired brawler Pulling No Punches arrives on August 10 | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:10 | |
| earthling | i do expect changes, which is the influence of this industry sector, onto linux kernel, is very harmful | Jul 21 13:10 |
| earthling | to software quality | Jul 21 13:10 |
| psydroid2 | I gave up on linux and associated projects years ago | Jul 21 13:11 |
| earthling | what are you using then psydroid2 ? | Jul 21 13:11 |
| psydroid2 | I don't think any of those are salvageable | Jul 21 13:11 |
| psydroid2 | earthling, openbsd, freebsd and other operating systems where possible | Jul 21 13:12 |
| psydroid2 | but what I mean is that I don't have an interest in gnu/linux | Jul 21 13:12 |
| earthling | i think those are salvagable either | Jul 21 13:12 |
| psydroid2 | it's just around until I've got something better | Jul 21 13:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: our community still exists | Jul 21 13:12 |
| psydroid2 | they aren't, but gnu/linux is the worst | Jul 21 13:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's just overshaddowed | Jul 21 13:13 |
| earthling | maybe the openbsd base system is salvagable, with different compilers, certainly not gcc or llvm | Jul 21 13:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | corporations and corporate media | Jul 21 13:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | people who don't speak for us | Jul 21 13:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | activelow you are too strict for practical purposes | Jul 21 13:14 |
| earthling | i don't see any error on my side | Jul 21 13:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the processors you target are no longer manufactured | Jul 21 13:14 |
| earthling | btw. with the openbsd base system, openbsd itself doesn't promote their additional ports tree and clearly state it is their base-system which is | Jul 21 13:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and "modern" CPUs need bloated compilers | Jul 21 13:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | at the very least for optimisations | Jul 21 13:15 |
| earthling | see for yourself, i think it got lynx browser, if this sufficed to navigate job portals online | Jul 21 13:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | jobs not worth having | Jul 21 13:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | or job portals | Jul 21 13:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | word of mouth is better | Jul 21 13:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that's how I typically found jobs | Jul 21 13:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | some jobs advertise just for compliance | Jul 21 13:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they already polan to promote "in-house" | Jul 21 13:15 |
| earthling | i got enough work to do still... | Jul 21 13:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but they need to pretend to have interviewed "candidates" | Jul 21 13:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | happens all the time | Jul 21 13:16 |
| earthling | schestowitz[TR2]: the bureaucratic apparatus, they can throw me out onto the street in a few days if they wanted | Jul 21 13:16 |
| techrights-news | "Square One Games Inc., Black Isle Studios and Interplay Entertainment" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/baldurs-gate-dark-alliance-ii-is-out-now-with-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II is out now with Linux support | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:16 | |
| earthling | and, i got no reason to doubt this is what they want | Jul 21 13:16 |
| earthling | to do | Jul 21 13:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | earthling: no incentive having peopple in the street | Jul 21 13:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it radicalises and increases crime | Jul 21 13:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | agianbst you | Jul 21 13:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | not just by you | Jul 21 13:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you probably opened up regarding politics in some workplace | Jul 21 13:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and got flagged | Jul 21 13:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | there'a saying | Jul 21 13:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | what do you call a pub with a nazi in it? a nazi pub. same for workplaces | Jul 21 13:18 |
| earthling | anyway, this type of modern "technology", which isn't superior to 1970s, concerning any reasonable criteria | Jul 21 13:18 |
| earthling | this tech industry effectively sabotaged the society | Jul 21 13:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's a two-way street | Jul 21 13:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | society did it to tech | Jul 21 13:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tech does this to people | Jul 21 13:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tech is just an enforcement tool of the developers | Jul 21 13:18 |
| earthling | with the cornerstone of any "free software" definition, there is no online banking, no job portals | Jul 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | word of mouth | Jul 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | telephone, meetings.. | Jul 21 13:19 |
| earthling | i would be more specific, who did exactly what | Jul 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I can get your the histopry of how I found jobs | Jul 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | same for girls btw | Jul 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | don't meet girls online | Jul 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you don't know what you get | Jul 21 13:19 |
| earthling | i am a developer, and _never_ used any of "social media", no "smart phone", never used never | Jul 21 13:19 |
| earthling | i hated this from the beginning | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I always prefers to speak to clerks, cashiers, phones | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no web sites if I can avoid them | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they lower service levels | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | to save on costs to copmpanies | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | in turn, it means more people like you out of work | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | when in fact you could give tech service | Jul 21 13:20 |
| earthling | recent trend being, "microsoft teams" being promoted | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | instead of people trying to do "self-help" like their time is worthless | Jul 21 13:20 |
| techrights-news | Epic Games ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/unreal-engine-5-editor-quietly-gets-a-proper-linux-version/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unreal Engine 5 editor quietly gets a proper Linux version | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 13:21 | |
| earthling | remember what they argued, i was supposedly too stupid to install this | Jul 21 13:21 |
| earthling | so, it's not only "racist" to reject crap, too it showed low intellect | Jul 21 13:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they were too stupid to impose this | Jul 21 13:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they could hire one engineer to set up their own video conferencing s/w | Jul 21 13:22 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and then maintain it | Jul 21 13:22 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | instead of outsourcing to a criminal company fromA ANOTHER COINTINENT | Jul 21 13:22 |
| earthling | i mean "free software", there is many other acceptance criteria for technology | Jul 21 13:23 |
| techrights-news | "The ADTF3175 is a Time-of-Flight (ToF) optimized for 3D depth sensing and computer vision applications." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/analog-devices-presents-high-res-3d-depth-camera/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jul 21 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/analog-devices-presents-high-res-3d-depth-camera/ ) | Jul 21 13:23 | |
| earthling | and any tech which would pass MINIMUM acceptance criteria, free or not, doesn't suffice to participate in society anymore | Jul 21 13:23 |
| techrights-news | "OK6254-C Single Board Computer (SBC)" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/forlinx-introduces-ok6254-c-sbc-based-on-tis-sitara-am6254-processor/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jul 21 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/forlinx-introduces-ok6254-c-sbc-based-on-tis-sitara-am6254-processor/ ) | Jul 21 13:23 | |
| earthling | on a historical timescale, Tchernobyl disaster, soon soviet union collapsed | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | earthling: you are probably in some "do not employ" bucket | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they do exist | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | i heard stories | Jul 21 13:25 |
| earthling | and, the modern "technology", it is far worse than Tchernobyl could have ever been | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | getting our of these buckets is almost impossible | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *out | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and it's why many people here won't tealk to you eiuther | Jul 21 13:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | changing your nickname is not a solutiob | Jul 21 13:26 |
| earthling | schestowitz[TR2]: you know anything related to this? which bucket that is and what the criteria are? | Jul 21 13:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it depends on the profession | Jul 21 13:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | there are some for tech | Jul 21 13:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | some for medical professionals | Jul 21 13:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and they don't tell you when you are in it | Jul 21 13:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you figure it out by yourself | Jul 21 13:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like the "no-fly" list and similar | Jul 21 13:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | maybe you had some majjor incident in some tech employer | Jul 21 13:28 |
| earthling | i got some list myself | Jul 21 13:28 |
| earthling | besides, it was ME who quit with Deutsche Telekom | Jul 21 13:28 |
| earthling | i quit with them, not the other way round | Jul 21 13:28 |
| earthling | i knew where this would lead to, 15years ago already | Jul 21 13:28 |
| earthling | didn't require the perception of a genius either | Jul 21 13:29 |
| earthling | and those in charge nowadays, with their diversity and whatnot | Jul 21 13:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Cisco, Deutsche Telekom and Intel are leading the WBA working group that wrote this report." | Jul 21 13:29 |
| earthling | they are _worse_ than any other totalitarian regime could have been before in history | Jul 21 13:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://staceyoniot.com/wi-fi-gets-ready-for-an-industrial-makeover-with-new-features/ | Jul 21 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-staceyoniot.com | Wi-Fi gets ready for an industrial makeover with new features - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis | Jul 21 13:30 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | dt = usa | Jul 21 13:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "CUSTOMERS OF SOME phone companies in Germany, including Vodafone and Deutsche Telekom, have had a slightly different browsing experience from those on other providers since early April." | Jul 21 13:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.wired.com/story/trustpid-digital-token-supercookie/ | Jul 21 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-‘Supercookies’ Have Privacy Experts Sounding the Alarm | WIRED | Jul 21 13:30 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they own Sprint. | Jul 21 13:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | US | Jul 21 13:31 |
| earthling | the entire technological complex, it's worse than tchernobyl could have ever been | Jul 21 13:33 |
| earthling | although, it is not the tech nor science, it was handed over to the wrong people | Jul 21 13:33 |
| techrights-news | It's worse than "recession" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/20/urgent-message-fed-dont-get-bullied-sparking-recession | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 21 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | An Urgent Message for the Fed: Don't Get Bullied Into Sparking a Recession | Dean Baker | Jul 21 13:34 | |
| earthling | and tchernobyl, one power plant, this sufficed, for soviet union to collapse | Jul 21 13:35 |
| earthling | nowadays, the entire industry, is way beyond what tchernobyl was | Jul 21 13:35 |
| psydroid2 | Amerikanische Telekom | Jul 21 13:35 |
| earthling | it isn't possible anymore to navigate job portals with tech that could pass MINIMUM acceptance criteria for this | Jul 21 13:37 |
| techrights-news | Games: Valve, Epic, Unreal Engine, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167491 | Jul 21 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve, Epic, Unreal Engine, and More | Tux Machines | Jul 21 13:38 | |
| techrights-news | LibreOffice 7.3.5 Office Suite Released with 83 Bug Fixes, Download Now • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167492 | Jul 21 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.3.5 Office Suite Released with 83 Bug Fixes, Download Now | Tux Machines | Jul 21 13:38 | |
| earthling | i got email, irc, newsgroups if i wanted, web browser, yet it is not possible to navigate job portals with it | Jul 21 13:38 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Leftovers: Ransomware and Microsoft • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167490 | Jul 21 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Leftovers: Ransomware and Microsoft | Tux Machines | Jul 21 13:39 | |
| earthling | i remember an incident, tested this, which is, i formatted my curriculim vitae as ASCII text | Jul 21 13:39 |
| earthling | covering letter too | Jul 21 13:39 |
| earthling | pgp signed, quality documents | Jul 21 13:39 |
| earthling | too i had added some pdf | Jul 21 13:39 |
| earthling | nonetheless, they said they had not received appropriate documents | Jul 21 13:40 |
| earthling | and the employment agency threatened to "sanction" me for this | Jul 21 13:40 |
| earthling | schestowitz[TR2]: which conclusion would you draw? | Jul 21 13:40 |
| earthling | or anyone else? | Jul 21 13:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they want obedience | Jul 21 13:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you dong it your own way is "red flag" | Jul 21 13:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *doing | Jul 21 13:41 |
| earthling | ASCII text? | Jul 21 13:42 |
| earthling | which can easily be printed onto 9pin matrix? | Jul 21 13:42 |
| earthling | pgp signed | Jul 21 13:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | employers want dumb employees. as dump as the managers | Jul 21 13:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *dumb | Jul 21 13:42 |
| *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Jul 21 13:42 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's not about hiring talent | Jul 21 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's about control | Jul 21 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | companies that make weapons | Jul 21 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | about control | Jul 21 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | domination | Jul 21 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | power | Jul 21 13:43 |
| earthling | they got that too | Jul 21 13:43 |
| earthling | so what? | Jul 21 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | earthling: https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/phase-two-of-life/ | Jul 21 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Entering Phase Two of Life | Jul 21 13:44 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | when you work for companies | Jul 21 13:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | see my experience | Jul 21 13:44 |
| earthling | i am not at least referring to some fringe or ideological dogma, to insist | Jul 21 13:45 |
| earthling | it is some absolute bare MINIMUM acceptance criteria | Jul 21 13:45 |
| psydroid2 | companies don't even exist to do anything useful for themselves or for society | Jul 21 13:46 |
| earthling | employment agency threatened to sanction(!!!) me over this, to send a mail and CV as ascii text (to keep this story short as possible) | Jul 21 13:46 |
| psydroid2 | they just want money and control | Jul 21 13:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | or | Jul 21 13:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | serving those with money and ocontrol | Jul 21 13:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it'd a chain of sick-0sucking | Jul 21 13:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | state->military-> weapons-> 'tech' | Jul 21 13:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | those that mint the currencies wwnat power | Jul 21 13:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and you get paid power to cusk it up | Jul 21 13:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *by power to suck | Jul 21 13:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that's a problem | Jul 21 13:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like graveley making $12000 a month from Microsoft | Jul 21 13:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | while attacking women | Jul 21 13:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | didn't boither microsoft | Jul 21 13:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he helped them attack the gpl | Jul 21 13:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | vis-a-vis.. | Jul 21 13:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | check today's feature EPO article | Jul 21 13:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | about Razik | Jul 21 13:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and his faustian pact | Jul 21 13:49 |
| MinceR | they don't mind my PDF CV generated with LaTeX :> | Jul 21 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | $20,000 a month tax free (euros) | Jul 21 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | to help the managers attack the staf f aND BREAK THE LAW | Jul 21 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | AND THEN USE THAT MONEY TO BUILD A SUMMER HOUSE IN CRETE | Jul 21 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | sorry, caps | Jul 21 13:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | MinceR: I do the same | Jul 21 13:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | latex->pdf | Jul 21 13:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but have not done so for like a decade already | Jul 21 13:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | rianne does the same, but not since 20114 | Jul 21 13:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: btw, re friedman | Jul 21 13:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | some online microsoft trolls mocked you | Jul 21 13:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for citing us | Jul 21 13:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we might soon have evidence from a subpoena explaining what happened to him | Jul 21 13:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and to microsoft de icaza, too | Jul 21 13:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | discovery (court) | Jul 21 13:51 |
| earthling | MinceR: LaTeX had issues too, there wasn't a TeX distribution anymore which passed some criteria of MINE | Jul 21 13:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the person who got tex build for debian came under attack | Jul 21 13:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | over total BS | Jul 21 13:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/07/enrico-zini-on-dam-and-responsability/ | Jul 21 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | Enrico Zini on DAM and "responsability" | There and back again | Jul 21 13:53 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | (from yesterday) | Jul 21 13:53 |
| techrights-news | Patents are the issue here. Patients for Affordable Drugs ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/20/big-pharma-has-raised-drug-prices-1186-times-year-analysis-shows | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 21 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Big Pharma Has Raised Drug Prices 1,186 Times This Year, Analysis Shows | Jul 21 13:56 | |
| techrights-news | CHIPS Act is graft. Bail out the homeless, NOT billionaires. US is a mock "free market" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/20/sanders-files-amendment-limit-76-billion-corporate-welfare-microchip-industry also bailing out MICROSOFT http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Jul 21 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Files Amendment to Limit $76 Billion in 'Corporate Welfare' for Microchip Industry | Jul 21 13:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights | Jul 21 13:57 | |
| techrights-news | "Committee to Elaborate a Comprehensive International Convention on Countering the Use of Information and Communication Technologies for Criminal Purposes" ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/letter-united-nations-inclusive-civil-society-participation | Source: EFF | Jul 21 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Letter to the United Nations on Inclusive Civil Society Participation | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 21 13:59 | |
| techrights-news | What does today's EFF even know about hacking? It's attacking RMS. ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/eff-poker-tournament-def-con-30 | Source: EFF | Jul 21 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Poker Tournament at DEF CON 30 | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 21 13:59 | |
| techrights-news | USA = bailoutocracy = bailing out the rich to make them richer, eliminating taxes for the rich, government then taking that money back as bribes from the rich. Don't kid yourself. This isn't a model for the world; it is a cautionary tale! A cookie jar economy. http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Jul 21 14:04 |
| techrights-news | China ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/20/as-the-chinese-government-ramps-up-oppression-citizens-are-pushing-back/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 21 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As The Chinese Government Ramps Up Oppression, Citizens Are Pushing Back | Techdirt | Jul 21 14:04 | |
| techrights-news | GDPR not effective enough ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/20/eu-commission-sued-for-violating-its-own-data-protection-rules/ GDPR not enforced against Microsoft: http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/edps-gdpr-epo-impunity/ | Jul 21 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU Commission Sued For Violating Its Own Data Protection Rules | Techdirt | Jul 21 14:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) Needs to Get Its Act Together on the EPO’s GDPR Violations | Techrights | Jul 21 14:05 | |
| techrights-news | "the generals of the war against Starbucks barista" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/liz-shuler-labor-employment-conference/ | Source: The Nation | Jul 21 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Why Is This Union Leader Schmoozing With the Enemy? | The Nation | Jul 21 14:07 | |
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| techrights-news | PayPal and Alipay ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-payal-and-alipay-to-freeze-vpn-companys-funds-in-piracy-lawsuit-220720/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jul 21 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Orders PayPal & Alipay to Freeze VPN Company’s Funds in Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak | Jul 21 14:09 | |
| techrights-news | Hollywood studios and Netflix ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/after-mpa-chopped-off-primewires-head-hydrawire-tv-grew-back-220720/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jul 21 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-After MPA Chopped Off PrimeWire's Head, HydraWire.tv Grew Back * TorrentFreak | Jul 21 14:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Recently I thought about decisions in general, and how I usually need motivation. But I think I actually need a positive state of mind, then I must make the decision and just stick to it. And so far, this works" gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-21.gmi | Jul 21 14:10 |
| techrights-news | The Peace of Summertime. gemini://atyh.net/post-2022-07-21-summertime.gmi | Jul 21 14:11 |
| techrights-news | Scapegoats of (or for) Netflix ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/20/netflixs-password-sharing-crackdown-has-it-sounding-more-and-more-like-comcast/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 21 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix’s Password Sharing Crackdown Has It Sounding More And More Like Comcast | Techdirt | Jul 21 14:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Prigozhin has asked the Russian Prosecutor General’s Office to conduct an audit of Meduza’s activities" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/07/20/oligarch-evgeny-prigozhin-asks-russia-to-blacklist-meduza-as-an-undesirable-organization | Source: Meduza | Jul 21 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Jul 21 14:13 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | XRevan86: ^ | Jul 21 14:13 |
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| techrights-news | Terrible idea of helping Microsoft after escaping Windows https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-net-core-on-manjaro-linux/ | Jul 21 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.how2shout.com | How to install .Net Core on Manjaro Linux - Linux Shout | Jul 21 14:16 | |
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| techrights-news | IBM continues "The Great Resignation" lie/myth while laying off a ton of its own workers https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/it-talent-5-reasons-consider-career-coach | Jul 21 14:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT talent: 5 reasons to consider a career coach | The Enterprisers Project | Jul 21 14:19 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM kicks you and then blaming you for getting kicked | Jul 21 14:20 |
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| techrights-news | "Between the pandemic effect, hustle culture, and work pressures, burnout has become commonplace." When your bosses at ICBM tell you that "you are an IBM employee 100% of the time..." (even after work) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/prevent-team-burnout | Jul 21 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Burnout: 3 steps to prevent it on your team | The Enterprisers Project | Jul 21 14:21 | |
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| techrights-news | Steven Vaughan-Nichols is a PR person, not a journalist. See who pays the salary. | Jul 21 14:21 |
| techrights-news | ICBM pushing proprietary software after buying Red Hat - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/ibm_db2_operator/ ䷉ Source: theregister | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/ibm_db2_operator/ | Jul 21 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IBM launches Db2 operator for Kubenetes on AWS • The Register | Jul 21 14:22 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yea, he wants Meduza to be deemed undesirable. | Jul 21 14:22 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167493 | Jul 21 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 14:23 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | XRevan86: to him | Jul 21 14:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: To the "law". | Jul 21 14:23 |
| psydroid2 | schestowitz[TR2], let them come, I will eat them alive | Jul 21 14:23 |
| techrights-news | SJVN, the coin-operated corporate poodle. Insert coin, choose "sponsored narrative" https://narratives.zdnet.com/ | Jul 21 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-narratives.zdnet.com | | Jul 21 14:24 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | spazz: she said? | Jul 21 14:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: she said? | Jul 21 14:25 |
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| techrights-news | IBM: THE GREAT RESIGNATION! 200,000 ... FIRED!! Cops: we don't kill anyone. They kill themselves. "STOP RESISTING!" | Jul 21 14:27 |
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| psydroid2 | I know about Microsoft trolls, but they generally don't dare to respond or don't get the last word | Jul 21 14:28 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_gIxTitMM | Jul 21 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=Hh_gIxTitMM | Jul 21 14:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.riverside.rocks | (HD) Judge Dredd - YOU BETRAYED THE LAW!!!! - Invidious | Jul 21 14:28 | |
| techrights-news | Cops can be like rapists. They shout at you to strop resistance. | Jul 21 14:28 |
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| psydroid2 | I remember when Hayden Barnes came here as matlock and I shut him down and he left after two days of not getting anywhere | Jul 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: rms: "Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." | Jul 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | silence can be victory | Jul 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | psydroid2: he vanished | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | into rancher | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no more wsl | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's like original surface | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the "big ass table" | Jul 21 14:30 |
| psydroid2 | rancher should also vanish together with suse | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's hype | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like openshit | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they tell you embrace complkexity | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "transformation" | Jul 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "moderniisation" | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "but buy our wares" | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | to "manage complexity" | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | which you likely never needed in the first place | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | kubernetes forn instance | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for a two server setup | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like apache ands varnish | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | move to "the clown" while at it | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and pay for your staff to get clown certified | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | memorising GUIs | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and then pay $1000 a month in fees | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like our company | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that outsource some shit to AWS | Jul 21 14:32 |
| psydroid2 | I've never seen an industry that is as disingenuous as the IT industry | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we used to have our own big rack with many servers | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | now.. none | Jul 21 14:32 |
| psydroid2 | and I don't see why you would go on to reinvent everything all the time | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | even the email and vpn got outsourced | Jul 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and a colleague bragged it's encryption file syste,m | Jul 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | on amazon | Jul 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | hgello... | Jul 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | amazon controls the whole thing | Jul 21 14:33 |
| psydroid2 | I really thinking business types should run all of it | Jul 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so some foreign company and cpounty can read all our mail | Jul 21 14:33 |
| psydroid2 | but what are STEM people especially in CS(E) going to do? | Jul 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and our vpn, too | Jul 21 14:33 |
| techrights-news | Red Hat / IBM Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167494 | Jul 21 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 14:34 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167495 | Jul 21 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 14:34 | |
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| techrights-news | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition gets certified for Ubuntu 22.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167482#comment-34403 | Jul 21 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 21 14:36 | |
| psydroid2 | so after The Great Resignation we will see The Great Collapse | Jul 21 14:37 |
| techrights-news | Linux Mint 21 Beta now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167157#comment-34402 | Jul 21 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 Beta Is Now Available for Download, Here’s a First Look | Tux Machines | Jul 21 14:37 | |
| psydroid2 | that's exactly what is needed | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they will blame it on us | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | form""resigning" | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we crashed the economy | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the oligarchs had it asll planned | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the bailouts and all | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | at our expense | Jul 21 14:37 |
| psydroid2 | let it all collapse | Jul 21 14:37 |
| psydroid2 | sometimes it's better to start from a clean slate | Jul 21 14:37 |
| psydroid2 | although this sounds like MinceR, I think something new can be built from zero | Jul 21 14:38 |
| psydroid2 | something that is better than what came before | Jul 21 14:38 |
| techrights-news | LibreOffice 7.3.5 Community available for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167492#comment-34401 | Jul 21 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.3.5 Office Suite Released with 83 Bug Fixes, Download Now | Tux Machines | Jul 21 14:38 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | there is food shortage | Jul 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they say | Jul 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | maybe eat the people who buy all the farmland | Jul 21 14:38 |
| earthling | ^ this is confusing me, the promotion of LibreOffice by schestowitz[TR2] and his tuxmachines | Jul 21 14:38 |
| earthling | just a random hit | Jul 21 14:39 |
| earthling | no problem, it could be a disagreement, of what "free software" was supposed to be, or anything complying with MINIMUM acceptance criteria for software | Jul 21 14:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | today's news | Jul 21 14:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | with libreofice you can work locally | Jul 21 14:40 |
| earthling | it's just a random pick | Jul 21 14:40 |
| techrights-news | Rinat Akhmetov ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/20/i-am-not-going-to-be-an-oligarch | Source: Meduza | Jul 21 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Jul 21 14:40 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | earthling: chronological | Jul 21 14:42 |
| techrights-news | Twitter is foreign interference. Twitter should collapse and die already. "In June of 2021, Nigerian authorities directed internet service providers in Nigeria to block access to Twitter after the platform flagged and removed a tweet from Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari" ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/nigerian-twitter-ban-declared-unlawful-court-victory-eff-and-partners | Source: EFF | Jul 21 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Nigerian Twitter Ban Declared Unlawful by Court: Victory by EFF and Partners | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 21 14:43 | |
| techrights-news | VPN ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/20/lawmakers-push-ftc-to-crack-down-on-sleazy-vpn-industry/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 21 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lawmakers Push FTC To Crack Down On Sleazy VPN Industry | Techdirt | Jul 21 14:43 | |
| techrights-news | "Judicial immunity is one of a handful of absolute immunities." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/20/one-way-to-lose-judicial-immunity-perform-impromptu-warrantless-searches-of-peoples-houses/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 21 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One Way To Lose Judicial Immunity: Perform Impromptu Warrantless Searches Of People’s Houses | Techdirt | Jul 21 14:43 | |
| techrights-news | "Roller coasters are not only great fun to ride, they’re also fascinating pieces of engineering." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/20/how-to-make-a-model-roller-coaster-without-any-moving-parts/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 21 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Make A Model Roller Coaster Without Any Moving Parts | Hackaday | Jul 21 14:44 | |
| techrights-news | "If you can buy something off the shelf, there’s a good chance that someone has tried to 3D print their own version. [Daniel Norée] did just that with skateboard trucks, whipping up a design of his own." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/20/3d-printed-skate-trucks-do-surprisingly-okay/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 21 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3D Printed Skate Trucks Do Surprisingly Okay | Hackaday | Jul 21 14:47 | |
| techrights-news | Graft, theft ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-moves-to-limit-76-billion-in-corporate-welfare-for-microchip-industry/ They also gave about $40,000,000,000 to Microsoft: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Jul 21 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Sanders Moves to Limit $76 Billion in "Corporate Welfare" for Microchip Industry | Jul 21 14:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights | Jul 21 14:48 | |
| techrights-news | Patents that kill ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/big-pharma-has-raised-drug-prices-1186-times-this-year-report-says/ | Source: TruthOut | Jul 21 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Big Pharma Has Raised Drug Prices 1,186 Times This Year, Report Says | Jul 21 14:49 | |
| earthling | to provoke again, this type of software, LibreOffice, isn't supporting "software freedom", instead it is a threat | Jul 21 14:49 |
| earthling | and this isn't a critique directed towards developers and their competence | Jul 21 14:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they're many germans | Jul 21 14:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but maybe not "true germans" to you | Jul 21 14:50 |
| earthling | instead, the fact it is millions of hours of manpower, let me say wasted on this, even worse | Jul 21 14:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | TDF is based in Berlin mostly | Jul 21 14:50 |
| earthling | schestowitz[TR2]: i worked with a c++ programmer who developed staroffice, some years ago | Jul 21 14:51 |
| earthling | another reason why, it's sadden me, to see such manpower wasted | Jul 21 14:52 |
| earthling | *saddening | Jul 21 14:52 |
| techrights-news | "The European Commission launched the Rule of Law procedure against Hungary at the end of April." Should do the same to Team UPC. Hungary the only one to rule against this abomination. ☛ https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/21/transparency-justice-ministers-proposals-insufficient-for-curbing-corruption | Source: Telex (Hungary) | Jul 21 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Transparency: Justice Minister's proposals insufficient for curbing corruption | Jul 21 14:53 | |
| techrights-news | "17 Democratic lawmakers, almost all women, were arrested outside the Supreme Court" ☛ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/20/rep_jayapal_progressive_caucus_chair_on | Source: Democracy Now | Jul 21 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Progressive Caucus Chair Rep. Jayapal on Her Own Abortion & Why Biden Must Protect Right to Choose | Democracy Now! | Jul 21 14:55 | |
| techrights-news | "Why Biden Must Protect Right to Choose".. Biden protects the right, not the right to choose https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/20/rep_jayapal_progressive_caucus_chair_on | Jul 21 14:56 |
| techrights-news | Patents: "drug corporations’ unfettered ability to dictate prices" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/20/big-pharma-has-raised-drug-prices-1186-times-this-year-analysis-shows/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 21 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Big Pharma Has Raised Drug Prices 1,186 Times This Year, Analysis Shows – scheerpost.com | Jul 21 14:58 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22070863 | Jul 21 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0j2sme4di6a91.jpg created on 2022-07-08 20:06:44.044430 | Jul 21 14:59 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▄▃▅▅▄▅▆▅▂▇▅▇▅▆▅▇▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▇▇▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.78▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 21 14:59 |
| techrights-news | GAFAM and politics ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/20/the-dirty-quid-pro-quo-between-democrats-and-big-tech/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 21 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The ‘Dirty Quid Pro Quo’ Between Democrats and Big Tech – scheerpost.com | Jul 21 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | "Allegations that MI5 officers and sections of the media sought to bring down Britain’s Labour government in the 1960s and 70s" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/20/a-possible-coup-against-the-labour-government/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 21 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-‘A Possible Coup’ Against The Labour Government? – scheerpost.com | Jul 21 15:03 | |
| techrights-news | "The early days of FDM 3D printing were wild and wooly. Getting plastic to stick to your build plate was a challenge" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/20/ask-hackaday-resin-printer-build-plates/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 21 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ask Hackaday: Resin Printer Build Plates | Hackaday | Jul 21 15:04 | |
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| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi Email Server using Citadel - Pi My Life Up ⚓ https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-email-server/ ䷉ Source: pimylifeup | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-email-server/ | Jul 21 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pimylifeup.com | Raspberry Pi Email Server using Citadel - Pi My Life Up | Jul 21 15:10 | |
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| techrights-news | Java SE 6 and 7 devs weigh their options as support ends - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/java_se_6_7_support/ ䷉ Source: theregister | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/java_se_6_7_support/ | Jul 21 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Java SE 6 and 7 devs weigh their options as support ends • The Register | Jul 21 15:12 | |
| techrights-news | Free expression is not safe in India: government must not slash social media safe harbour protection - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/india-social-media-safe-harbour/ ䷉ Source: accessnow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/india-social-media-safe-harbour/ | Jul 21 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Free expression is not safe in India: government must not slash social media safe harbour protection - Access Now | Jul 21 15:13 | |
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| earthling | schestowitz[TR2]: what's this "true germans" about? | Jul 21 15:21 |
| earthling | btw. the Gigatron TTL is a dutch product... not german | Jul 21 15:25 |
| earthling | and the german semiconductor industry is effectively defunct since 1990 | Jul 21 15:26 |
| earthling | so what are you trying to say? | Jul 21 15:26 |
| earthling | as far as i am concerned, yes, i would kick IBM and Intel and AMD out of the country | Jul 21 15:27 |
| earthling | Microsoft, same... get out | Jul 21 15:27 |
| earthling | no Visa, no travel-permit | Jul 21 15:27 |
| earthling | they're hostile, they're an enemy, it is an _economic_ war, orchestrated by pentagon | Jul 21 15:28 |
| earthling | i mean, if they drip their racial diversity nonsense on top of it | Jul 21 15:28 |
| earthling | this doesn't change anything relevant concerning technical qualities and economic prospects | Jul 21 15:28 |
| techrights-news | Links 21/07/2022: LibreOffice 7.3.5, Microsoft Teams Goes Offline Again, Dell Has Many Puff Pieces | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/libreoffice-7-3-5/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/libreoffice-7-3-5/ | Jul 21 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/07/2022: LibreOffice 7.3.5, Microsoft Teams Goes Offline Again, Dell Has Many Puff Pieces | Techrights | Jul 21 15:29 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 21 15:30 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167496 | Jul 21 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 15:30 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167497 | Jul 21 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 15:31 | |
| techrights-news | SpellBinding: AHNYRXP Wordo: DYADS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-21.gmi | Jul 21 15:32 |
| earthling | schestowitz[TR2]: what would you think "true germans" are? | Jul 21 15:32 |
| earthling | if anything, there aren't any remaining anwywhere | Jul 21 15:32 |
| earthling | mission accomplished... so what? | Jul 21 15:32 |
| earthling | why are you asking me? | Jul 21 15:32 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22070859 | Jul 21 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/d4nxhl1yjk891.gif created on 2022-07-08 18:54:03.610048 | Jul 21 15:52 | |
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| techrights-news | System76’s Oryx Pro Linux Laptop Gets a 12th Gen Intel CPU, NVIDIA RTX 3000 Ti GPUs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167498 | Jul 21 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76's Oryx Pro Linux Laptop Gets a 12th Gen Intel CPU, NVIDIA RTX 3000 Ti GPUs | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:05 | |
| techrights-news | Aamzon reviews = Misinformation/Disinformation https://www.maketecheasier.com/amazon-fake-reviews-on-facebook/ | Jul 21 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Amazon Going After Fake Reviews Brokered on Facebook - Make Tech Easier | Jul 21 16:11 | |
| techrights-news | "We cover events and user groups that are running in Netherlands. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-netherlands/ | Jul 21 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Around The World: Netherlands - LinuxLinks | Jul 21 16:13 | |
| techrights-news | "From 0 to bhyve on FreeBSD, Analyze OpenBSD’s Kernel with Domain-Specific Knowledge, OpenBSD Webzine: ISSUE #10, HardenedBSD June 2022 Status Report, two new C compilers: chibicc and kefir in OpenBSD, SSD TRIM in NetBSD HEAD, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/464 | Jul 21 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 464: Compiling with kefir | Jul 21 16:13 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft hates Linux https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149302/linux-action-news-250/ but they cannot tell you that http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/ | Jul 21 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 250 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Jul 21 16:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesn’t Care About GNU/Linux and Now It’s Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | Techrights | Jul 21 16:15 | |
| techrights-news | "I wouldn’t have buried “vehicle control” in the middle of that sentence." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/critical-vulnerabilities-in-gps-trackers.html | Jul 21 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Critical Vulnerabilities in GPS Trackers - Schneier on Security | Jul 21 16:17 | |
| techrights-news | "A remote attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/20/oracle-releases-july-2022-critical-patch-update | Jul 21 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Oracle Releases July 2022 Critical Patch Update | CISA | Jul 21 16:18 | |
| techrights-news | Surveillance can kill you https://www.accessnow.org/post-roe-data-brokers/ | Jul 21 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Post-Roe, civil society calls on data brokers to do no harm - Access Now | Jul 21 16:29 | |
| techrights-news | What happens when you press a key in your terminal? ⚓ https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/07/20/pseudoterminals/ ䷉ Source: jvns | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jvns.ca/blog/2022/07/20/pseudoterminals/ | Jul 21 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | What happens when you press a key in your terminal? | Jul 21 16:29 | |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: Bad Voltage, Linux Action News, BSD Now, and TLLTS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167499 | Jul 21 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Bad Voltage, Linux Action News, BSD Now, and TLLTS | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:35 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167500 | Jul 21 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:35 | |
| techrights-news | This is the same government which mandates back doors universally https://www.fosslife.org/us-cybersecurity-apprenticeship-sprint-launched | Jul 21 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | U.S. Cybersecurity Apprenticeship Sprint Launched | Jul 21 16:37 | |
| techrights-news | Jim Zemlin might as well walk around a conference with a "I love back doors" t-shirt | Jul 21 16:37 |
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| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167501 | Jul 21 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:42 | |
| techrights-news | LightDM 1.32 Display Manager Released, Dropping Qt 4 Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167502 | Jul 21 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LightDM 1.32 Display Manager Released, Dropping Qt 4 Support | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:43 | |
| techrights-news | "Yesterday, I've seen a person wearing what looked like a traditional watch. But upon seeing them more, I saw it was a digital watch, too. The analog watch was controlled and set remotely by the program on a smartphone, basically making it connected to technology, thus being useless without technology nearby." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/2022-07-21.gmi | Jul 21 16:43 |
| techrights-news | "I don't see why a watch should be connected to the internet, nor why it should send your pulse straight to some Big Tech server." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/2022-07-21.gmi | Jul 21 16:44 |
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| techrights-news | Watch decades ago: no charging needed ever. Sometimes once in a few years. Phones too could go on for a month, charge. We've gone BACKWARDS. Now "phones" need to be charged every day. Warming up the planet. | Jul 21 16:46 |
| techrights-news | LibreJS 7.21.0 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167503 | Jul 21 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreJS 7.21.0 released | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:49 | |
| techrights-news | Buzzword projects https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-internet-of-things-projects-iot-projects-that-you-can-make-right-now/ | Jul 21 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | 20 Best Internet of Things Projects (IoT Projects) in 2022 | Jul 21 16:50 | |
| techrights-news | Download Linux Mint 21 based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS to Test http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167157#comment-34407 | Jul 21 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 Beta Is Now Available for Download, Here’s a First Look | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:52 | |
| techrights-news | macOS vs. Linux: 5 Key Differences You Should Know • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167504 | Jul 21 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | macOS vs. Linux: 5 Key Differences You Should Know | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:56 | |
| techrights-news | Are Thunderbird 102’s New Features Enough to Make You Switch? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167505 | Jul 21 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Are Thunderbird 102's New Features Enough to Make You Switch? | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:56 | |
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| techrights-news | Public Knowledge Applauds FCC Inquiry Into Data Practices of Mobile Providers - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-fcc-inquiry-into-data-practices-of-mobile-providers/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledge | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-fcc-inquiry-into-data-practices-of-mobile-providers/ | Jul 21 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Applauds FCC Inquiry Into Data Practices of Mobile Providers - Public Knowledge | Jul 21 16:59 | |
| techrights-news | >[PATCH 1/5] ASoC: amd: add RPL Platform acp header file - syed sabakareem ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220721061035.91139-1-Syed.SabaKareem@amd.com/ ䷉ Source: amd | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220721061035.91139-1-Syed.SabaKareem@amd.com/ | Jul 21 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 1/5] ASoC: amd: add RPL Platform acp header file - syed sabakareem | Jul 21 17:02 | |
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| techrights-news | Right Now in Phoronix... All About AMD (Sponsor) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/amd-blog/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/amd-blog/ | Jul 21 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Right Now in Phoronix… All About AMD (Sponsor) | Techrights | Jul 21 17:13 | |
| techrights-news | Misrepresentation by Deere and Company to the US EPA and SEC https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/7/20/misrepresentation-by-deere-and-company-to-the-us-epa-and-sec | Jul 21 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.repair.org | Misrepresentation by Deere and Company to the US EPA and SEC — The Repair Association | Jul 21 17:15 | |
| techrights-news | Repair.org and PIRG call on the EPA to investigate Deere and its dealers over Right to Repair for violating the Clean Air Act " The Repair Association ⚓ https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/7/21/repairorg-and-pirg-call-on-the-epa-to-investigate-deere-and-its-dealers-over-right-to-repair-for-violating-the-clean-air-act ䷉ | Jul 21 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Repair.org and PIRG call on the EPA to investigate Deere and its dealers over Right to Repair for violating the Clean Air Act — The Repair Association | Jul 21 17:15 | |
| techrights-news | Support.Mozilla.Org: Introducing Smith Ellis https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/07/21/introducing-smith-ellis/ "Customer Experience team"?? | Jul 21 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Introducing Smith Ellis – The Mozilla Support Blog | Jul 21 17:17 | |
| techrights-news | Choosing the right Camel for your ride ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/choosing-right-camel-your-ride ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/choosing-right-camel-your-ride | Jul 21 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Choosing the right Camel for your ride | Jul 21 17:17 | |
| techrights-news | "Fedora’s Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) team is starting to work on the Fedora Week of Diversity (FWD) 2022." Fedora as a community is dying or dead. ICBM killed it with deliberate moves that sent the message. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fwd-2022-call-for-volunteers/ to ICBM, "community" means "our unpaid staff" | Jul 21 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | FWD 2022 call for volunteers – Fedora Community Blog | Jul 21 17:20 | |
| techrights-news | Calling IBM "ICBM" is an insult... to nuclear weapons | Jul 21 17:21 |
| techrights-news | IBM shill Timothy Prickett Morgan (yes, ICBM pays him to write fake 'articles'... ads) does this mindless "HEY HI" fluff https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/21/making-ai-accessible-to-one-and-all/ | Jul 21 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Making AI Accessible To One And All | Jul 21 17:22 | |
| techrights-news | "Timothy Prickett Morgan [...] Sponsored by Lenovo." Also sponsored by ICBM and Intel. Today's media turned into spam disguised as reporting. "The Next Platform" is corrupt media... it's a spamfarm of corporations. | Jul 21 17:23 |
| techrights-news | Irving Wladawsky-Berger on buzzwords and hype ("Web3" ⚓ https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/07/towards-a-trustworthy-web3-framework.html ䷉ Source: irvingwb | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/07/towards-a-trustworthy-web3-framework.html | Jul 21 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Web3 - Safeguarding Our Identity and Personal Data in the Digital World | Jul 21 17:24 | |
| techrights-news | Climbing the Charts (request for feature requests) | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org] ⚓ http://blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/07/climbing-the-charts-request-for-feature-requests.html ䷉ Source: perl | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/07/climbing-the-charts-request-for-feature-requests.html | Jul 21 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Climbing the Charts (request for feature requests) | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org] | Jul 21 17:25 | |
| techrights-news | Today's job interview/hiring process for "journalists": would you post for us a puff piece you neither wrote nor agree with? For a paycheck from the company it's about? | Jul 21 17:26 |
| techrights-news | Linux fundamentals: How to copy, move, and rename files and directories | Enable Sysadmin ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/move-copy-files-linux ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/move-copy-files-linux | Jul 21 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Linux fundamentals: How to copy, move, and rename files and directories | Enable Sysadmin | Jul 21 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | Too bloated, too expensive, back doors, not competitive. This isn't the 1990s anymore https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/21/pix-nii-pocket-sized-mini-pc-intel-pentium-n6005-processor/ | Jul 21 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PIX NII is a pocket-sized mini PC powered by an Intel Pentium N6005 processor (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Jul 21 17:28 | |
| techrights-news | 22,995 dollars? WTH? https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/21/xrf16-gen3-som-features-xilinx-zynq-ultrascale-zu49dr-rfsoc-with-up-to-6ghz-bandwidth/ | Jul 21 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | XRF16 Gen3 SOM features Xilinx Zynq UltraScale+ ZU49DR RFSoC with up to 6GHz bandwidth - CNX Software | Jul 21 17:30 | |
| techrights-news | Phoronix keeps cherry-picking commits from AMD and advertising jobs at AMD after bagging a lot of gifts http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/amd-blog/ | Jul 21 17:33 |
| techrights-news | Unlike Windows, Linux does not have back doors and zero-days ignored by the vendor (Microsoft) for months, so for this malware to get to the system something dumb needs to happen https://thehackernews.com/2022/07/new-linux-malware-framework-let.html | Jul 21 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | New Linux Malware Framework Lets Attackers Install Rootkit on Targeted Systems | Jul 21 17:37 | |
| techrights-news | Jack Wallen is conflating Microsoft systemd with Linux https://www.techrepublic.com/article/masked-services-linux-how-manage/ | Jul 21 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What are masked services in Linux, and how do you manage them? | TechRepublic | Jul 21 17:39 | |
| techrights-news | Mini-GUADEC 2022 in Berlin | Philip Withnall ⚓ https://tecnocode.co.uk/2022/07/21/mini-guadec-2022-in-berlin/ ䷉ Source: tecnocode | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tecnocode.co.uk/2022/07/21/mini-guadec-2022-in-berlin/ | Jul 21 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tecnocode.co.uk | Mini-GUADEC 2022 in Berlin | Philip Withnall | Jul 21 17:40 | |
| techrights-news | How to install KDE neon 20220714 - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=X6mbA9dmX3U | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/X6mbA9dmX3U | Jul 21 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install KDE neon 20220714 - Invidious | Jul 21 17:41 | |
| techrights-news | KDE neon 20220721 is out https://neon.kde.org/ | Jul 21 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neon | Jul 21 17:41 | |
| techrights-news | "The page you have tried to view (Living with the Rust trademark) is currently available to LWN subscribers only." RMS said it's a reason to fork Rust. IIRC. https://lwn.net/Articles/901816/ | Jul 21 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/901816/ ) | Jul 21 17:43 | |
| techrights-news | IIRC, RMS said Rust needs to be forked into something like "Crust". I'd go further and say that it should get away from GitHub, drop the CoC, but even then it would not be salvageable if too dependent on upstream (softer fork like Iceweasel). | Jul 21 17:45 |
| techrights-news | Rust was NOT made for freedom or by freedom-centric people | Jul 21 17:45 |
| techrights-news | Rust sees "freedom" in the same way Hillary Clinton sees "freedom" | Jul 21 17:46 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft propagandists still try to conflate malware with "backdoors", which is something Windows has by design; this is misleading, borderline defamatory https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-lightning-framework-linux-malware-installs-rootkits-backdoors/ | Jul 21 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New ‘Lightning Framework’ Linux malware installs rootkits, backdoors | Jul 21 17:47 | |
| techrights-news | "The previous blog post introduced my project for this summer. This blog post gives an update on the work that has been done so far in the past 5 weeks, and sketches out the plans for upcoming weeks." https://jsuhaas22.github.io/devblog/jekyll/update/2022/07/21/gsoc-post-1-flatpakkcm-update.html | Jul 21 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jsuhaas22.github.io | GSoC Post 1: FlatpakKCM Update 1 | Suhaas’ Blog | Jul 21 17:48 | |
| XRevan86 | CIT: https://telegra.ph/Report-for-July-19-07-20 | Jul 21 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telegra.ph | Report for July 19 – Telegraph | Jul 21 17:56 | |
| XRevan86 | CIT: https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-20-07-21 | Jul 21 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telegra.ph | Dispatch for July 20 – Telegraph | Jul 21 17:56 | |
| techrights-news | Lots of stores now claim broken (empty) fridges, have no supplies, force you to pay more for the same. Weird. | Jul 21 17:59 |
| bagira | oh thats precious. i want to supervillain laugh whenever i read developers talking about their plans for the next X weeks like that has ever been what happens, ever lol. measure in energy units, not time. | Jul 21 18:01 |
| bagira | anyway, what's the scoop on daniel pocock? i got an abuse report for him, but don't have enough context yet to understand what's going on there. i can't tell if it's standard issue trolling or if this is a trauma response after being targeted himself | Jul 21 18:04 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XXV should be interesting. Info on what happened with Nat Friedman and Miguel de Icaza covering up for a monster. | Jul 21 18:14 |
| techrights-news | No wonder the price of eggs too almost doubled this year https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/19/egg-prices-in-uk-could-increase-as-farmers-warn-of-tidal-wave-of-rising-costs https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61218741 | Jul 21 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Egg prices could rise for UK consumers as farmers cut flock numbers | Eggs | The Guardian | Jul 21 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Egg shortage: Farmers' warning as chicken feed price doubles - BBC News | Jul 21 18:16 | |
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| techrights-news | "A mixture of the coronavirus pandemic and Brexit"... so not even a Ukraine-related thing. Brexit means brexit, right? https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/egg-shortage-prices-food-farmers-23807512 | Jul 21 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/egg-shortage-prices-food-farmers-23807512 ) | Jul 21 18:22 | |
| techrights-news | Inside the Minds of Microsoft's Media Operatives — Part II will be ready soon | Jul 21 18:23 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 21 18:30 |
| techrights-news | Today we continue this series http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/microsoft-bishops/ | Jul 21 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the Minds of Microsoft’s Media Operatives — Part I — Bishops in Rooks | Techrights | Jul 21 18:43 | |
| schestowitz | > Hey xxxxx, | Jul 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > First of all, thank you for the acknowledgement; it’s not for nothing | Jul 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > and actually made my day. | Jul 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > Secondly, I’d much rather give you 1,500 words in a new article rather | Jul 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > than wasting both our times revising a 6 year old article or arguing ad | Jul 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > nauseam about whether you’re biased in favor of Microsoft. Thoughts? | Jul 21 18:48 |
| bnchs | email? | Jul 21 18:50 |
| schestowitz | yes, redacted a bit | Jul 21 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | tl;dr: | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Mirosoft moles burning Microsoft whisleblowers | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | now trying to prerent it was an accident | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | 6 years later! | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks xxxx! | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > I responded in-line. Please excuse all brevity and length. | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks again, | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > xxxx | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> xxxx | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> xxxx, thank you, I appreciate the sentiment. I would have | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> responded to your email in 2017 if I had seen it at the time. We | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> especially try to listen and learn from people who offer critical | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> assessments of our work. | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> I'm sorry for any problems our past reporting caused you. It's | Jul 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz | >> important for us to be reminded that what we publish has | Jul 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz | >> consequences. If we made any errors of fact or judgment, we'd | Jul 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz | >> welcome a chance to learn more so that we can improve. | Jul 21 18:55 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | >> Thanks for following up, looking forward to hearing more. | Jul 21 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > | Jul 21 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Thank you for caring and acknowledging a problem and at least being | Jul 21 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > open to the possibility of giving me a small shot at redemption. | Jul 21 19:05 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/tzMedjj | Jul 21 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rimgo.bcow.xyz | For fieldday: my cats & food - rimgo | Jul 21 19:23 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Microsoft liar: | Jul 21 19:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ">My work is out there for anyone to read and assess from 20 years | Jul 21 19:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | >of reporting on Microsoft. I do my best to be factual, fair, and | Jul 21 19:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | >skeptical. No doubt I've fallen short at times. Likewise, I don't | Jul 21 19:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | >see a lot of value in trying to change anyone's opinion of my | Jul 21 19:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | >reporting. I just hope that any conclusion is based on an adequate | Jul 21 19:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | >sample size." | Jul 21 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/21/two-people-killed-and-21-wounded-following-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv-news "Two people killed and 21 wounded following Russian shelling of Kharkiv" | Jul 21 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jul 21 19:26 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/21/russian-investigative-committee-found-no-evidence-of-crime-in-arrest-of-scientist-kolker-who-died-while-detained-news "Russian Investigative Committee found no evidence of crime in arrest of scientist Kolker, who died while detained" | Jul 21 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jul 21 19:26 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.pogowasright.org/security-flaws-in-a-popular-gps-tracker-are-exposing-a-million-vehicle-locations/ | Jul 21 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pogowasright.org | Security flaws in a popular GPS tracker are exposing a million vehicle locations | Jul 21 19:32 | |
| bagira | its hard to pretend a company with a 30-40 year track record and a previous motto of "embrace, extend, extinguish" suddenly wants to play ball after acquiring github where most of the world's source code is hosted | Jul 21 19:33 |
| bagira | the people he interfaces with may even think they're playing ball, that's their purpose in "embrace" and "extend" | Jul 21 19:34 |
| bagira | it's not some employee conspiracy where everyone's in on it, it's executive decisions to invest, divest strategically and the people involved at the interface point have good intentions | Jul 21 19:35 |
| bagira | i.e. bob isn't evil to foss, and bob's boss isn't evil to foss, but his boss probably is | Jul 21 19:36 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/19/documents-antitrust-case-google-amazon-00046522 | Jul 21 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New internal documents show tech giants pushing out competitors - POLITICO | Jul 21 19:41 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/ai-helps-the-powerful-but-harms-the-vulnerable-mozilla-warns/ | Jul 21 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AI Helps the Powerful but Harms the Vulnerable, Mozilla Warns - CNET | Jul 21 19:44 | |
| bagira | title should read "machine learning" since AI was only redefined so marketing teams could sell ML as "AI" without getting sued, and before corporate corruption of academic curriculums there was almost global consensus on this | Jul 21 19:45 |
| bagira | (we lowered the standards when we couldn't reach the goal) | Jul 21 19:46 |
| bagira | (by changing definitions of words around) | Jul 21 19:46 |
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| techrights-news | Inside the Minds of Microsoft’s Media Operatives — Part II — Justifying a Career as a Microsoft Mouthpiece That Destroys Lives of People With Actual Facts | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/careers-as-microsoft-mouthpieces/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/careers-as-microsoft-mouthpieces/ | Jul 21 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the Minds of Microsoft’s Media Operatives — Part II — Justifying a Career as a Microsoft Mouthpiece That Destroys Lives of People With Actual Facts | Techrights | Jul 21 20:13 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22070856 | Jul 21 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/j6wbxai6u4a91.jpg created on 2022-07-08 17:37:43.985398 | Jul 21 20:14 | |
| techrights-news | Google wants to REPLACE LINUX?, GNOME 43, and Unreal Engine on Linux - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KoncJlonKSQ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/KoncJlonKSQ | Jul 21 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Google wants to REPLACE LINUX?, GNOME 43, and Unreal Engine on Linux - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious | Jul 21 20:17 | |
| techrights-news | GNOME 43 to add ’Device Security’ Settings with Anti-Linux Boot status & HSI Level | UbuntuHandbook ⚓ https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/07/gnome-43-device-security/ ䷉ Source: UbuntuHandbook | FreeSW | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/07/gnome-43-device-security/ | Jul 21 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | GNOME 43 to add ‘Device Security’ Settings with Secure Boot status & HSI Level | UbuntuHandbook | Jul 21 20:18 | |
| techrights-news | Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, July 22, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20220721-irc | Jul 21 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, July 22, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Jul 21 20:19 | |
| techrights-news | Notice how they skip Microsoft while using Microsoft lobbyists' vocabulary https://www.accessnow.org/tech-investors-social-change-human-rights-proposals-shareholders-guide/ | Jul 21 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | How the world's biggest investors could transform Big Tech - Access Now | Jul 21 20:20 | |
| techrights-news | Dell and Ubuntu certify latest model of XPS 13 ultrabook http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167482#comment-34409 | Jul 21 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 21 20:22 | |
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| techrights-news | Public Knowledge Welcomes Bill Prohibiting Predatory Broadband Data Caps - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-bill-prohibiting-predatory-broadband-data-caps/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledge | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-bill-prohibiting-predatory-broadband-data-caps/ | Jul 21 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Welcomes Bill Prohibiting Predatory Broadband Data Caps - Public Knowledge | Jul 21 20:23 | |
| techrights-news | Packaging and logging gopher://uberspace.net:70/0/~defanor/phlog/packaging-and-logging.rst | Jul 21 20:24 |
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| techrights-news | Moral dissent or conscientious leanings aren’t tolerated by Microsoft and its media operatives; diligent adherence to or insistence on facts are seen as an act of heresy and punished severely http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/careers-as-microsoft-mouthpieces/ | Jul 21 20:27 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22070842 | Jul 21 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/2lm78xq735a91.png created on 2022-07-08 12:02:37.071640 | Jul 21 20:29 | |
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| techrights-news | This coffee machine lets you know when you’ve had too much caffeine | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/21/this-coffee-machine-lets-you-know-when-youve-had-too-much-caffeine/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/21/this-coffee-machine-lets-you-know-when-youve-had-too-much-caffeine/ | Jul 21 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This coffee machine lets you know when you've had too much caffeine | Arduino Blog | Jul 21 20:31 | |
| techrights-news | Equipping a go-kart with an omni wheel for endless drifting | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/21/equipping-a-go-kart-with-an-omni-wheel-for-endless-drifting/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/21/equipping-a-go-kart-with-an-omni-wheel-for-endless-drifting/ | Jul 21 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Equipping a go-kart with an omni wheel for endless drifting | Arduino Blog | Jul 21 20:31 | |
| techrights-news | Chrome is a security hole https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/07/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_19.html | Jul 21 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromereleases.googleblog.com | Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop | Jul 21 20:32 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary software hole, severity CVSS v3 9.8 (OUT OF 10!!!), media won't mention it because it's not "LINUX" or "OPEN SOURCE" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-04 | Jul 21 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | ICONICS Suite and Mitsubishi Electric MC Works64 Products | CISA | Jul 21 20:33 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft .NET https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-04 | Jul 21 20:34 |
| techrights-news | "software is running at the SYSTEM level" = WINDOWS. MICROSOFT. Severity: "CVSS v3 8.6" (out of 10) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-03 | Jul 21 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Rockwell Automation ISaGRAF Workbench | CISA | Jul 21 20:35 | |
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| techrights-news | "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an unauthenticated user to access Metasys web API and enumerate users." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-02 | Jul 21 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Johnson Controls Metasys ADS, ADX, OAS | CISA | Jul 21 20:36 | |
| techrights-news | Accenture (Microsoft proxy) reports 9.6 (out of 10 in severity) hole https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-05 | Jul 21 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | AutomationDirect Stride Field I/O | CISA | Jul 21 20:37 | |
| techrights-news | As usual, CIA conveniently leaves out the fact that this is Microsoft Windows (from the original: "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\java-sdk" https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/21/cnmf-discloses-malware-ukraine | Jul 21 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CNMF Discloses Malware in Ukraine | CISA | Jul 21 20:39 | |
| techrights-news | "low-privileged user to create and write to a file anywhere on the file system as “system”" -> Microsoft Windows again. CISA won't tell you that! Must read between the lines. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-01 | Jul 21 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | ABB Drive Composer, Automation Builder, Mint Workbench | CISA | Jul 21 20:41 | |
| techrights-news | CISA: keep using things with back doors in them. It's for "security"... "national security", i.e. we being in control of all your systems and thus your life | Jul 21 20:42 |
| techrights-news | ...today, Thursday, CISA disclosed almost half a dozen very severe flaws in Windows systems, without even once mentioning the words Microsoft or Windows. Several times the severity was almost 10 out of 10. | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | fake security | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like Mr. GAFAM | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | back doors | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | good fdor you | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | saved your day | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ask Microsoft for the back door | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | thanks, Microsoft | Jul 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | your back doors... are DELICIOUS :-) | Jul 21 20:44 |
| earthling | IBM Microsoft Wintel PC itself IS the malware, the backdoor | Jul 21 20:45 |
| earthling | the only way to remove the backdoor is wiping IBM Micros~1 Wintel PC itself | Jul 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that'\s also true | Jul 21 20:46 |
| techrights-news | How to install ChromeOS Flex the hard way ⚓ https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/how-to/how-to-install-chromeos-flex-the-hard-way/ ䷉ Source: aboutchromebooks | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.aboutchromebooks.com/how-to/how-to-install-chromeos-flex-the-hard-way/ | Jul 21 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aboutchromebooks.com | How to install ChromeOS Flex the hard way | Jul 21 20:48 | |
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| techrights-news | Links 21/07/2022: More GNU/Linux Laptops and More Typical FUD Against Linux | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/links-21072022-more-gnulinux-laptops-and-more-typical-fud-against-linux/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/21/links-21072022-more-gnulinux-laptops-and-more-typical-fud-against-linux/ | Jul 21 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/07/2022: More GNU/Linux Laptops and More Typical FUD Against Linux | Techrights | Jul 21 21:10 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167506 | Jul 21 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:10 | |
| techrights-news | Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Aginst Linux, CISA Still Covering Up for Microsoft • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167507 | Jul 21 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Aginst Linux, CISA Still Covering Up for Microsoft | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:13 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167508 | Jul 21 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:13 | |
| techrights-news | Mozilla, Chrome, and Drupal Updates • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167509 | Jul 21 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla, Chrome, and Drupal Updates | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:13 | |
| techrights-news | Devices: Projects in Buzzword ("IoT") and Arduino Space • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167510 | Jul 21 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Projects in Buzzword ("IoT") and Arduino Space | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:14 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat / Fedora / IBM Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167511 | Jul 21 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat / Fedora / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:14 | |
| techrights-news | GNU: GNOME, GUADEC, and the Free Software Directory (FSD) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167512 | Jul 21 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU: GNOME, GUADEC, and the Free Software Directory (FSD) | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:14 | |
| techrights-news | Google’s Weird Commitment to ’Linux' • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167513 | Jul 21 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz I'm wrapping up my review of SeaMonkey. | Jul 21 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | good | Jul 21 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it has not changed | Jul 21 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the www did | Jul 21 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's kind of where I'm going with this. | Jul 21 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Weird Commitment to 'Linux' | Tux Machines | Jul 21 21:16 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | thw web is proprietary shit disguised as "open" and "standards" | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it has been reduced from open to "choicE" | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you get a CHOICE.. | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | between MONOPOLIES | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and clones of MONOPOLIES | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | all from one country | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | all tied to military interests | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | all disregarding privacy and security | Jul 21 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: next tuxmachines will have gemini support | Jul 21 21:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | native | Jul 21 21:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | parity | Jul 21 21:17 |
| earthling | nice | Jul 21 21:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi | Jul 21 21:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'll then update the bot to give the gemnini url for tuxmachines | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the web is not ours | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | few companies 'stole' it | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the broesers | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and the domains | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and the CAs | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they swallow the whol,e thing | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | social control media, a couple hundre CAs in a cabal/cartel | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and few email providers | Jul 21 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | everything else presumed "spam" | Jul 21 21:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and they all push "webmail | Jul 21 21:19 |
| earthling | apropos email | Jul 21 21:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "wherew real encryption is impossible | Jul 21 21:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | e2ee with dodgy JS | Jul 21 21:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | in proprietary browser | Jul 21 21:19 |
| earthling | i would have registered with libera, if i could have anonymized email | Jul 21 21:19 |
| techuser | disposable ones work | Jul 21 21:20 |
| techuser | though some (many?) are banned | Jul 21 21:20 |
| techuser | fuck Libera though | Jul 21 21:20 |
| bagira | they're not going to give you that earthling, they need to be able to identify you so they can control who participates in foss | Jul 21 21:20 |
| earthling | bagira: that's ok | Jul 21 21:21 |
| britney | i like protonmail and tutanota | Jul 21 21:21 |
| bagira | earthling: i can confirm first hand they have a channel that the network dumps registrations to as well, and if they see a disposable email account they'll kline. i have even tested by putting hints in the password and they'll spot it right away. | Jul 21 21:21 |
| techuser | they are both shit, but at least "trustworthy" registrable shit | Jul 21 21:22 |
| earthling | i am not interest in registering with libera | Jul 21 21:22 |
| techuser | another account if k-line | Jul 21 21:22 |
| techuser | use matrix.org and Element to register | Jul 21 21:22 |
| techuser | over Tor | Jul 21 21:22 |
| bagira | yeah i just cycle through identities all day on there, its all automated | Jul 21 21:22 |
| earthling | so far, noone was willing to touch my unregistered nickname yet, and they know who i am by the means of what i say | Jul 21 21:22 |
| bagira | i am like 3 people that actively participate in various projects there and they think they're 3 different people | Jul 21 21:23 |
| earthling | moment ago i was muted for 24h, which is OK too, as long as i can say what i want, and what had to be said was | Jul 21 21:23 |
| britney | you know the name "earthling" is something an alien (perhaps reptilian) might use to pretend to be human | Jul 21 21:25 |
| earthling | britney: my real nickname is aggi | Jul 21 21:25 |
| bagira | what i do for anonymity is i use a "network profile" "brand" for each one, and i use a separate one for myself to calibrate what theyre looking for, so, they see "linode, this domain, must be bagira" | Jul 21 21:25 |
| bagira | and then my alts all have completely different fingerprints | Jul 21 21:25 |
| britney | yo dawg, we herd u liked surveillance so we put surveillance inside your surveillance so you can get watched while you get watched | Jul 21 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Point is, unless something changes drastically, I'm just simply not sure where the future of the Web is going. Nowhere good, I'm sure. You can already just barely get an ad blocker for SeaMonkey, and it's because Raymond Hill still cares that there are users who find it useful." | Jul 21 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | "As for other extension developers, they don't seem to be paying SeaMonkey any attention. If they did, they'd also have to keep a version of a Firefox "WebExtension" around. It's not like SeaMonkey got to retain its powerful "XUL" extensions. It gave that up when it brought in the "Firefox Quantum" version of Gecko. " | Jul 21 21:28 |
| techrights-news | Soccer converging with films industry... https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/together-champions-again-trailer-63793910 | Jul 21 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Coming soon | Together: Champions Again! | Jul 21 21:28 | |
| DaemonFC | "Firefox is an ongoing disaster with SeaMonkey in tow." | Jul 21 21:28 |
| bagira | i think firefox is still recovering from the mr. robot scandal | Jul 21 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | "I can only imagine how the developers of SeaMonkey must feel about this. From the outside looking in, I'd compare it to being in the car with a drunk driver." | Jul 21 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz ^ | Jul 21 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | How's that sounding? | Jul 21 21:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 21 21:30 |
| britney | earthling, what was that software you use to get a tiling wm inside the terminal? | Jul 21 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | I checked in on Pale Moon. That's going even worse than it was before. | Jul 21 21:30 |
| earthling | on github, my nickname was hijacked though, i am not aggi on github | Jul 21 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | There was a major drama bomb a while back where one of the developers got into a slap fight with "M.C. Straver" and started sabotaging the project. | Jul 21 21:30 |
| earthling | britney: dvtm terminal multiplexer (spawned on top of yaft) | Jul 21 21:30 |
| bagira | in all fairness "M.C. Straver" does sound like a WWE wrestler name | Jul 21 21:32 |
| prurigro | earthling: as someone who uses a terminal for basically everything except web browsing, image editing and some chat programs, that sounds interesting- how do you find it compared to tmux? | Jul 21 21:32 |
| earthling | prurigro: tmux is good quality software, dvtm is easier to hack and customize | Jul 21 21:33 |
| MinceR | (dog) https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/shittydawg.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-shittydawg#comic ) | Jul 21 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Jul 21 21:33 | |
| prurigro | I have a fairly customized tmux setup going, but I guess if I wanted to extend it with something it straight up doesn't do I'd have a hard time without patching the source code | Jul 21 21:34 |
| prurigro | are there any cool things you've configured it to do? | Jul 21 21:34 |
| britney | prurigro, earthling doesn't use anything he hasn't personally inspected by reading the code himself | Jul 21 21:34 |
| earthling | another problem, i bundled various components, yaft,dvtm,abduco,patches,configs into a package called dmux | Jul 21 21:35 |
| prurigro | I'd like to be able to say the same, but once you're in gui land it starts getting difficult to audit everything | Jul 21 21:35 |
| earthling | in fact, what i prefer over tmux is a fully integrated terminal "desktop environment" which i named dmux | Jul 21 21:35 |
| techrights-news | KDB again https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/manchester-city-club-america-highlights-63793949 | Jul 21 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Highlights: City 2-1 Club America | Jul 21 21:36 | |
| prurigro | DE stuff? like a task bar and notifications? | Jul 21 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | bagirain all fairness "M.C. Straver" does sound like a WWE wrestler name | Jul 21 21:36 |
| britney | DaemonFC, I miss Eddie Guererro | Jul 21 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Tune in Friday night as M.C. Straver takes on THE UNDERTAKER! Let's get ready to RUMBLLLLLLLLEEEEEE!!!!!! | Jul 21 21:37 |
| britney | I lie, I cheat, I steal! | Jul 21 21:37 |
| britney | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUHIm-besFw | Jul 21 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=kUHIm-besFw | Jul 21 21:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.weblibre.org | Eddie Guerrero 9th WWE Theme Song "Lie, Cheat & Steal" - Invidious | Jul 21 21:37 | |
| earthling | prurigro: there was various tiny missing pieces, such as session timeout, screensaver integration, kernel keyboard mappings, status bar, etc. etc. | Jul 21 21:38 |
| earthling | i didn't like the mouse support of yaft, re-implemented this to have a tiny copy-paste buffer at least | Jul 21 21:39 |
| prurigro | a screensaver even, haha, crazy! does the session timeout lock it? | Jul 21 21:39 |
| earthling | of cause it does | Jul 21 21:40 |
| britney | earthling is pretty cool, i'd never be able to handle running a TUI | Jul 21 21:40 |
| earthling | although, this depends on use case, because dvtm too can be used for "screen sharing" over ssh, really depends | Jul 21 21:40 |
| prurigro | yaft's 256 colour support sounds nice vs a vterm | Jul 21 21:40 |
| earthling | prurigro: it is! | Jul 21 21:41 |
| bagira | DaemonFC: i lost track of all of that while it was still WWF and not WWE | Jul 21 21:41 |
| bagira | around the time mankind retired | Jul 21 21:41 |
| earthling | and it got sixel support too, fully compatible with ssh... nothing extra necessary | Jul 21 21:42 |
| prurigro | the colour thing drove me crazy trying to get a nice terminal setup I didn't need to rely on xorg for- and sixel would be super key if you were going full terminal wouldn't it | Jul 21 21:42 |
| earthling | it's not that simple, nonetheless, sixel support fills a niche nicely | Jul 21 21:43 |
| bagira | prurigro: instead of tmux i just use i3 and a single term, i only use tmux or screen for when i need persistence | Jul 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know much about "professional wrestling" other than that hilarious N64 game whose graphics were so bad that it looked like one of them was butt raping the other one and I got weird looks whenever I laughed at it. | Jul 21 21:43 |
| earthling | which is, i can attach to any dmux session over ssh, and see pictures | Jul 21 21:43 |
| prurigro | I was thinking the other day, if you could have a simple html parser create a jpg out of an html email, you could use sixel to display it | Jul 21 21:43 |
| earthling | or gemini | Jul 21 21:43 |
| earthling | too i tested mplayer libsdl1/sixel output, which worked on top of suckless st terminal | Jul 21 21:44 |
| earthling | i could watch video over ssh now | Jul 21 21:44 |
| prurigro | bagira: how do you manage having tons of stuff running? fg? | Jul 21 21:44 |
| earthling | with yaft there is some bug remaining | Jul 21 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo has a really long history of making awful consoles that for whatever reason, they work out anyway. | Jul 21 21:44 |
| bagira | prurigro: workspaces and keyboard combos | Jul 21 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | They always have a better ratio of good title to absolute crap than Microsoft or Sony, even though the latter just throw processing power at the problem and sit back and light cigars on fire while the developers do whatever the hell they want to with the console. | Jul 21 21:45 |
| prurigro | ah, so multiple terminals? the issue I have there is that you can't access the same setup nicely over ssh | Jul 21 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo games are always more rewarding to play. Like, you're proud of yourself because you kept getting killed until you stopped to think about how to solve this for a minute. | Jul 21 21:46 |
| bagira | prurigro: yes i have about 40 terms and 200 browser tabs across many windows open at any given point in time, so, it comes in handy | Jul 21 21:46 |
| prurigro | earthling: yo that's crazy- I remember back in the day using... I think svgalib? to play videos in mplayer without X11. I didn't realize sixel could be performant in the same way | Jul 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | The XBOX and Playstation tend to have games that are all a bunch of "Oh I'll just go in there with a bunch of guns and kill everything that's moving.". | Jul 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Once you figure out how to do that, the game progresses. | Jul 21 21:46 |
| prurigro | over ssh is even crazier | Jul 21 21:46 |
| earthling | prurigro: sixel are very very very slow, with mplayer/sdl1/sixel of ffmpeg/sixel | Jul 21 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I was a huge fan of SEGA though, until their Microsoft deal put them under. | Jul 21 21:47 |
| bagira | sega was timeless | Jul 21 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | They were paying Microsoft for shit-ass Windows CE, which the thing didn't even need because it already had a GREAT operating system. | Jul 21 21:47 |
| earthling | just wanted to see, if it was possible, to transfer some surveillance cam dat | Jul 21 21:48 |
| earthling | dat | Jul 21 21:48 |
| bagira | i still have sonic 2 levels burned into my permanent memory | Jul 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Then they got shot in the back by Microsoft after handing them their last remaining cash. | Jul 21 21:48 |
| earthling | data | Jul 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz ^ | Jul 21 21:48 |
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| DaemonFC | That's also timeless. Companies handing Microsoft a pile of cash and going bankrupt only to get shot in the back by Microsoft. | Jul 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu has a version of this going on with a twist. Hand all of our customers over to Microsoft by telling them to use WSL instead of Ubuntu, and then get shot in the back by Microsoft. | Jul 21 21:49 |
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| prurigro | earthling: ahh ok, that's more like what I would have expected, but still very cool that you can. how do you play videos you want running at a decent frame rate? | Jul 21 21:49 |
| earthling | prurigro: i use what was always good enough before, mplayer-1.4/libsdl1/fbcon | Jul 21 21:50 |
| bagira | lol fwiw the engineers who insist WSL is a worthy development environment consistently fail | Jul 21 21:50 |
| prurigro | earthling: mplayer because mpv dropped framebuffer suport? | Jul 21 21:51 |
| earthling | prurigro: there was some _nasty_ changes in the dependency graph in userspace (putting aside kernel and DRM inside there) | Jul 21 21:52 |
| earthling | i will keep it at mplayer1.4/libsdl1/fbcon; no libdrm/mesa/opengl, none of this | Jul 21 21:52 |
| britney | earthling, have you ever considered running Plan9? | Jul 21 21:53 |
| prurigro | bagira: I know two people who've been using WSL- both have had major breakages, one tried to upgrade ubuntu right after installing it (you should never ever upgrade ubuntu, so maybe we can't blame WSL here? but it was a vanilla install lol), and the other lost a ton of important work when the filesystem image decided to corrupt itself randomly | Jul 21 21:53 |
| earthling | britney: i couldn't easily say yes, although more than once i did arrive at reading about it | Jul 21 21:53 |
| bagira | dont run plan9 unless its for research | Jul 21 21:53 |
| prurigro | earthling: and it still plays modern video files? | Jul 21 21:53 |
| bagira | its educational, truly, but you dont want to actually use it for stuff | Jul 21 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | "To give an example of how badly "mail" has devolved under Microsoft, one of my attorneys PAYS them for Microsoft "365". It crashes all the time, it loses attachments. It's a complete disaster. I had to resort to uploading sensitive documents onto a Google Drive and then deleting them as soon as she told me she had it(!) to get around Microsoft's shit that people actually pay for!" | Jul 21 21:54 |
| britney | bagira, what do you run? | Jul 21 21:54 |
| bagira | britney: surro linux | Jul 21 21:54 |
| earthling | prurigro: modern how? | Jul 21 21:54 |
| britney | bagira, i use arch btw | Jul 21 21:54 |
| prurigro | earthling: vp9, for example | Jul 21 21:54 |
| earthling | i keep it at software-decoding _only_, which limits maximum resolution of cause, with a low-power cortex a53 | Jul 21 21:54 |
| earthling | prurigro: didn't try, moment, need to check what i compiled ffmpeg with | Jul 21 21:55 |
| britney | bagira, i use gnome, firefox, brave, element, discord, hexchat, vlc, keepassxc | Jul 21 21:55 |
| prurigro | ahh even 1.4 was using ffmpeg eh? | Jul 21 21:55 |
| earthling | prurigro: if it is media-libs/libvpx i didn't activate this with ffmpeg, seems i missed that one | Jul 21 21:56 |
| prurigro | maybe it always was? for some reason I felt like it came with its own codecs back in like 2001 or so- I remember EU software patents were going to shut it down because of those at one point | Jul 21 21:56 |
| MinceR | britney: you should make a fork of Arch called "Arch BTW" | Jul 21 21:57 |
| britney | MinceR, LOL but its the trademark phrase of arch linux already | Jul 21 21:57 |
| britney | my hostname is "archbtw" tho lol | Jul 21 21:57 |
| MinceR | well, that solves it | Jul 21 21:57 |
| prurigro | "arch btw" is definitely a maymay | Jul 21 21:57 |
| MinceR | you could install void, set hostname to "archbtw" | Jul 21 21:58 |
| MinceR | and "i'm using archbtw" | Jul 21 21:58 |
| earthling | strangely i missed the vpx use flag... i'll try with the next release | Jul 21 21:59 |
| prurigro | oh funny- not that you really need it until you find a file you want to play that uses it | Jul 21 21:59 |
| britney | i have a freebsd virtual machine called "freebsdbtw" | Jul 21 21:59 |
| earthling | if libvpx doesn't contain any c++ or cmake and is C99 complaint then chances are it will compile just fine | Jul 21 21:59 |
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| prurigro | c++ is bad for your setup? | Jul 21 22:01 |
| britney | c++ is bad for anyones setup | Jul 21 22:01 |
| earthling | prurigro: i invested almost a year of work to remove ALL c++ dependencies from userspace | Jul 21 22:01 |
| prurigro | lol, touche | Jul 21 22:01 |
| bagira | oh it is not | Jul 21 22:01 |
| bagira | c++ is fine | Jul 21 22:01 |
| britney | c++ is trash | Jul 21 22:01 |
| britney | http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/ | Jul 21 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-harmful.cat-v.org | C++ is Good for the Economy, It Creates Jobs! | Jul 21 22:02 | |
| prurigro | I definitely prefer nice, clean C if I can get it, but I've never turned down C++ | Jul 21 22:02 |
| bagira | what screws up C++ is about a third of the syntax features shouldn't be used | Jul 21 22:02 |
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| DaemonFC | I found a can of smoked herring. | Jul 21 22:02 |
| bagira | ok two thirds | Jul 21 22:02 |
| MinceR | C won't be nice or clean at the code size C++ was designed for | Jul 21 22:02 |
| earthling | i do maintain various toolchains/cross-compilers, and any c++ component is easily added again, that's not my argument | Jul 21 22:02 |
| MinceR | i've seen people trying to do with C and it was very error-prone | Jul 21 22:02 |
| earthling | anyone willing to add any c++ with related compiler dependencies etc may do so | Jul 21 22:03 |
| MinceR | s/to do with/to do OOP with/ | Jul 21 22:03 |
| earthling | however, it was rather difficult to remove it and keep a useful userspace, which i got now with a custom c-only toolchain system profile maintained with gentoo | Jul 21 22:03 |
| prurigro | what was your goal? just to make it easier to audit everything? | Jul 21 22:04 |
| earthling | many reasons, technical arguments, the conclusions drawn from this may differ | Jul 21 22:04 |
| techrights-news | Watch Techrights closely the next 3 days for explosive leaks regarding software patents at EPO | Jul 21 22:05 |
| earthling | prurigro: i had enough of this when g++ hit OOM regularly, 1GiB of RAM per g++ instance didn't suffice anymore | Jul 21 22:05 |
| prurigro | MinceR: there are large projects that use C and seem to run well- linux is largely C is it not? | Jul 21 22:05 |
| prurigro | earthling: ahh, it's more of a technical limitation eh? | Jul 21 22:05 |
| MinceR | and they're desperate to switch to rust | Jul 21 22:05 |
| MinceR | also, linux is bloated | Jul 21 22:05 |
| earthling | another reason was, gcc was re-implemented in c++, hence i blocked at gcc-4.7, and for the sake of it fck the rest | Jul 21 22:06 |
| prurigro | they're not rewriting linux in rust, they're just adding support- like support for C++ exists | Jul 21 22:06 |
| prurigro | at least based on what I've read | Jul 21 22:06 |
| earthling | prurigro: it is NOT possible anymore to compile linux kernel with a C-compiler | Jul 21 22:06 |
| britney | im learning Golang as my first language because i dont like python | Jul 21 22:06 |
| prurigro | yeah, that's a bit of a shame | Jul 21 22:06 |
| earthling | it is the coffin nail drilled into both the linux and gcc | Jul 21 22:06 |
| prurigro | lol @ "Arguing that Java is better than C++ is like arguing that grasshoppers taste better than tree bark. – Thant Tessman" | Jul 21 22:07 |
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| earthling | OpenJDK is implemented with c++ | Jul 21 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 37 is dropping 32-bit OpenJDK. | Jul 21 22:08 |
| prurigro | you're not missing much by losing support for java apps | Jul 21 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Allegedly because nobody is sure of what it does if you use it and they can't be bothered to find out. | Jul 21 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Just going ahead and killing more of 32-bit x86 leaves them with fewer oddities to figure outl | Jul 21 22:09 |
| britney | <prurigro> lol @ "Arguing that Java is better than C++ is like arguing that grasshoppers taste better than tree bark. – Thant Tessman" <-- what about CRICKETS | Jul 21 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Most people don't need Java anymore because the main use for it was to run things hosted on Web sites. | Jul 21 22:10 |
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| DaemonFC | They finally bloated the Web so much that allowing Java in the browser just "complicates" things the Web platform already does. | Jul 21 22:10 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/a97XldG.mp4 | Jul 21 22:10 |
| MinceR | britney: they taste like chicken? | Jul 21 22:11 |
| prurigro | britney: everyone loves crickets, everyone will eat crickets- it's the way of the future! THE WAY OF THE FUTURE!!! | Jul 21 22:11 |
| britney | https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/reptilian-agenda.html | Jul 21 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org | Cerberus Investigations - The Reptilian Agenda | Jul 21 22:11 | |
| prurigro | MinceR: a friend has some mexican salsa with crickets in it and said they're very very crunchy | Jul 21 22:11 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 21 22:11 |
| britney | prurigro, that sounds awesome | Jul 21 22:11 |
| prurigro | likely crunchier than chicken skin | Jul 21 22:11 |
| britney | i actually want to try crickets | Jul 21 22:11 |
| britney | chocolate covered crickets might be fun | Jul 21 22:12 |
| MinceR | britney: that's the third time you spammed that exact URL | Jul 21 22:12 |
| britney | MinceR, yeah it mentions the conspiracy to put crickets in food | Jul 21 22:12 |
| britney | reptilians like bugs | Jul 21 22:12 |
| MinceR | so exciting. | Jul 21 22:12 |
| MinceR | do they also like humans? | Jul 21 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Raping underage ones. | Jul 21 22:13 |
| prurigro | they must if they're helping us maintain our protein levels | Jul 21 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats were infiltrated by them and President Trump was about to personally arrest them all. | Jul 21 22:13 |
| MinceR | maybe we'll also have long pig | Jul 21 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | That's why he had to be stopped, you know. | Jul 21 22:13 |
| prurigro | maybe not to eat | Jul 21 22:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk01eeKMD_I | Jul 21 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=dk01eeKMD_I | Jul 21 22:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | It's a Cookbook!!! - Invidious | Jul 21 22:14 | |
| DaemonFC | What I can't tell is how the Republican Party managed to turn Trump, a guy who is so grossly obese and out of shape and senile, and old, that he can barely make it down a few steps, into someone that's 10 feet tall, shitting bullets, and the essence of manhood. | Jul 21 22:14 |
| MinceR | easy | Jul 21 22:15 |
| MinceR | they didn't. | Jul 21 22:15 |
| prurigro | yeah, that was all people on twitter making memes | Jul 21 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz I'm still going on into another phase of this article. | Jul 21 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | Into how SeaMonkey isn't the problem. The Web is a problem. And I linked two of Richard Stallman's articles about that, which I agree with. | Jul 21 22:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TjXzu6IfXYI | Jul 21 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Hail Hydra English / German |HD| MARVEL FILM - Invidious | Jul 21 22:30 | |
| britney | DaemonFC, you're using an old browser and you're complaining that the web evolved? | Jul 21 22:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | lol, he looks like the guy in EPO who piushed swpats right nnow https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_AUs3J995Fc | Jul 21 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Arnim Zola Alive In A Computer Part 2 - Captain America The Winter Soldier 2014 - Invidious | Jul 21 22:33 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | eber | Jul 21 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | weber | Jul 21 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KyEDA0f2MzA | Jul 21 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Captain America First Avenger (2011) - Berlin is on This Map - Invidious | Jul 21 22:33 | |
| techrights-news | 3 Distros for Linux Newcomers Who Just Want to Get Work Done • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167514 | Jul 21 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 3 Distros for Linux Newcomers Who Just Want to Get Work Done | Tux Machines | Jul 21 22:38 | |
| techrights-news | Stable Kernels: 5.15.56, 5.10.132, 5.4.207, 4.19.253, 4.14.289, and 4.9.324 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167515 | Jul 21 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.15.56, 5.10.132, 5.4.207, 4.19.253, 4.14.289, and 4.9.324 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 22:38 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167516 | Jul 21 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 22:38 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xmAlBzxYTHk | Jul 21 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Winter Soldier: End Credits - Invidious | Jul 21 22:42 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I cannot find the bonus segment fof winter soldier | Jul 21 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz This may be the longest thing I've ever posted. | Jul 21 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Already. | Jul 21 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's going back and forth between a description of SeaMonkey and a diatribe against the Web and people who use Cloud Computing. | Jul 21 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | With an occasional detour to blast Firefox, Mozilla, and Chrome. | Jul 21 22:46 |
| bagira | i wonder if brandon ever lit his pipe in the white house | Jul 21 22:47 |
| bagira | we know snoop dogg hotboxed a j in the white house bathroom, but brandon may hold the title | Jul 21 22:48 |
| britney | DaemonFC, i use brave btw | Jul 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I just called Internet Explorer 11 a better browser than Chrome when Microsoft pulled the plug on IE. | Jul 21 22:52 |
| britney | ewwwww | Jul 21 22:52 |
| bagira | why would anyone believe that | Jul 21 22:53 |
| bagira | its objectively a worse browser | Jul 21 22:53 |
| earthling | it's all spyware by design | Jul 21 22:55 |
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| DaemonFC | I pointed out how even IE TPLs are a better ad blocker than what Manifest V3 will allow in Chrome. | Jul 21 22:55 |
| britney | earthling, you think everything is spyware though | Jul 21 22:55 |
| earthling | no, i don't think so | Jul 21 22:55 |
| bagira | yeah designing anti-ad-block tech into the browser is borderlie unethical | Jul 21 22:55 |
| bagira | *borderline | Jul 21 22:55 |
| MinceR | nothing borderline about it | Jul 21 22:55 |
| britney | earthling, everything except the stuff you run on your rock64 desktop | Jul 21 22:55 |
| earthling | it's useless | Jul 21 22:55 |
| MinceR | but that's what the industry is like | Jul 21 22:56 |
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| earthling | britney: i try to keep it as clean as possible | Jul 21 22:56 |
| MinceR | mozilla and gulag are in this race of "who can make a worse browser" | Jul 21 22:56 |
| britney | MinceR, what is your opinion of Brave? | Jul 21 22:56 |
| MinceR | seems to be an improved chromium | Jul 21 22:57 |
| bagira | lol brave is just chrome with extra steps | Jul 21 22:57 |
| MinceR | pity it doesn't run on any of the BSD-s | Jul 21 22:57 |
| MinceR | hopefully those extra steps remove some malicious behavior | Jul 21 22:57 |
| britney | bagira, brave is chrome without the spyware | Jul 21 22:57 |
| prurigro | brave is a pretty big mod of chromium | Jul 21 22:57 |
| MinceR | they certainly add an ad blocker gulag doesn't get to ruion | Jul 21 22:57 |
| MinceR | s/uio/ui/ | Jul 21 22:57 |
| earthling | the only canidate remaining for a graphical browser, which may pass acceptence criteria, is netsurf-motif (not gtk for the sake of it) | Jul 21 22:58 |
| britney | it is a shame that there is no brave for BSD | Jul 21 22:58 |
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| britney | I wonder if brave would work in freebsd's linux emulator | Jul 21 22:59 |
| MinceR | i don't care | Jul 21 23:00 |
| bagira | lol | Jul 21 23:00 |
| MinceR | freebsd was taken over and ruined before linux was | Jul 21 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | I called SeaMonkey the Dick Van Dyke of Web browsers. It's still with us, reminding us of a more civilized time. | Jul 21 23:00 |
| britney | MinceR, taken over? | Jul 21 23:00 |
| bagira | MinceR: are you referring to the iX/PCBSD era? | Jul 21 23:00 |
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| earthling | there isn't any browser remaining anymore | Jul 21 23:00 |
| MinceR | mostly to MICROS~1 and apple influence and particularly to the CoC they adopted before Linux did | Jul 21 23:00 |
| earthling | the last firefox passing acceptance criteria was 3.6.28 | Jul 21 23:01 |
| prurigro | earthling: no love for dillo? | Jul 21 23:01 |
| MinceR | it would be pointless for me to leave Linux because of the CoC and switch to FreeBSD | Jul 21 23:01 |
| earthling | prurigro: i digged through all of them, what's inside portage tree | Jul 21 23:01 |
| earthling | i cannot remember anymore why i refrained from dillo | Jul 21 23:01 |
| prurigro | not using a gui seems like a reasonable reason for your use case | Jul 21 23:02 |
| earthling | prurigro: dillo depends on FLTK, and FLTK is written in C++ | Jul 21 23:02 |
| prurigro | aha! | Jul 21 23:02 |
| earthling | if this is ok for you, nothing wrong with it. | Jul 21 23:02 |
| prurigro | seems like dillo is dead anyway- the domain is gone | Jul 21 23:03 |
| prurigro | which is a shame- it seems like it was still around as recently as april | Jul 21 23:03 |
| earthling | if a graphical browser was desired, i think netsurf-motif port to linux was the candidate | Jul 21 23:04 |
| earthling | i prepared an ebuild for this, it compiles, it runs, it crashes.... | Jul 21 23:04 |
| earthling | simply got no time to maintain this, and i got no use for this either | Jul 21 23:04 |
| earthling | because, there isn't any real benefit anymore, in comparison to lynx/w3m/links | Jul 21 23:04 |
| earthling | none of those browsers are sufficient for online banking, navigation of job portals, online shops | Jul 21 23:05 |
| earthling | and web browsers which are, fail with all other criteria | Jul 21 23:05 |
| prurigro | true, sites that don't work in lynx/w3m/links aren't gonna work in anything but webkit, blink or webrender | Jul 21 23:05 |
| earthling | some month ago, i brought back to life some older webkit version, with a custom frontend named BadWolf | Jul 21 23:06 |
| earthling | and removed the WASM support from this... result being then webkit isn't any different to what netsurf or w3m could offer | Jul 21 23:07 |
| earthling | three years ago, i kept maintaining firefox-3.6.28 for another few month... until the python2 dependency nuked compilation | Jul 21 23:07 |
| earthling | firefox 3.6.28 too was more secure than any later version of this | Jul 21 23:08 |
| earthling | it's javascript engine, for example, it didn't violate some W^X policies, which i patches support into linux kernel | Jul 21 23:08 |
| earthling | same thing, firefox 3.6.28, practically useless nowadays | Jul 21 23:08 |
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| earthling | then for some more month, i maintained the last non-Rust version of Seamonkey, until python2 inside buildsystem caused trouble | Jul 21 23:15 |
| earthling | once Seamonkey integrated with rust/llvm, i wiped that once and for all eternity | Jul 21 23:16 |
| matey | then he hung himself in a room full of other hitler-loving cunts and died | Jul 21 23:16 |
| matey | so sad | Jul 21 23:16 |
| matey | heres a riddle | Jul 21 23:16 |
| matey | if 100,000 right wing germans were chained together at the bottom of the ocean | Jul 21 23:17 |
| matey | how the fuck are we supposed to set them on fire? | Jul 21 23:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ask BP for help | Jul 21 23:17 |
| matey | creative | Jul 21 23:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | british engineeing | Jul 21 23:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | got leaked | Jul 21 23:17 |
| matey | yeah, sometimes its good to have "leaks" | Jul 21 23:17 |
| matey | from corporations | Jul 21 23:18 |
| matey | with bp not always | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we have a lak somin | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The EPO Bubble — Part X — A Leaked E-mail Provides Some Clues... | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | proofreading it now | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it mocks an austrian | Jul 21 23:18 |
| matey | the epo really reminds me of dr evils organisation | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | wait till next meme | Jul 21 23:18 |
| matey | its that much of a caricature | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's ready | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/hydra-epo.mp4 | Jul 21 23:19 |
| matey | of course bezos is exactly like him | Jul 21 23:19 |
| matey | and amazon is enough like what #2 tried to "pivot" towards | Jul 21 23:19 |
| matey | but if epo gets any worse i bet the guy-- battis-- campinos? battistelli ii? | Jul 21 23:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | italian name | Jul 21 23:20 |
| matey | will have those push buttons installed so that he can just drop people that work there into some kind of pit or whatever | Jul 21 23:20 |
| matey | "hows the latest report coming on adobe on your mac" | Jul 21 23:20 |
| matey | oops, that the linux-destroying foundation | Jul 21 23:20 |
| matey | MAYBE THEYLL MERGE | Jul 21 23:20 |
| matey | the european linux office | Jul 21 23:21 |
| matey | because the original elo was too cool | Jul 21 23:21 |
| matey | of course "linux" means "patent portfolio" | Jul 21 23:21 |
| matey | but it already means windows, which is basically a patent portfolio | Jul 21 23:21 |
| matey | so it totally works | Jul 21 23:21 |
| matey | "linux" = patents | Jul 21 23:21 |
| matey | linux office = patent office | Jul 21 23:22 |
| earthling | matey: there isn't at least 100000 germans remaing anywhere on earth | Jul 21 23:22 |
| earthling | if you find any tell me | Jul 21 23:22 |
| bagira | did you just use a logical identity property proof to say windows = linux?? :/ | Jul 21 23:22 |
| matey | no im being cynical, but really its a parody of what the industry is already doing | Jul 21 23:23 |
| matey | i cant be blamed for parody | Jul 21 23:23 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x85E2rpa2VQ | Jul 21 23:23 |
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| bagira | A => B, A >> B | Jul 21 23:23 |
| earthling | not so fast, matey called for mass murder publicly in this channel, and i would want to ask some more about this | Jul 21 23:23 |
| matey | no i did not | Jul 21 23:23 |
| bagira | all cower before the modus ponens | Jul 21 23:23 |
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| matey | but youre welcome to say so | Jul 21 23:23 |
| bagira | its a joke | Jul 21 23:24 |
| matey | next to templeos is awesome and einstein is an idiot | Jul 21 23:24 |
| earthling | 2022-07-21 22:17:01 <matey> if 100,000 right wing germans were chained together at the bottom of the ocean 2022-07-21 22:17:09 <matey> how the fuck are we supposed to set them on fire? | Jul 21 23:24 |
| matey | bagira before any wires get crossed, im also replying to what earthling is saying | Jul 21 23:24 |
| bagira | jesus man, germany is one of the most progressive nations on earth these days, let them grow lol | Jul 21 23:24 |
| earthling | germany ceased to exist, decades ago | Jul 21 23:25 |
| earthling | not sure what you're talking about tbh | Jul 21 23:25 |
| bagira | uh | Jul 21 23:25 |
| bagira | huh? | Jul 21 23:25 |
| matey | ill explain | Jul 21 23:25 |
| matey | i know people throw the term "nazi" around to mean "anyone i disagree with" | Jul 21 23:25 |
| matey | with that said, earthling is about as close as you can get to the real thing and still try to deny it | Jul 21 23:26 |
| earthling | matey: not people, you said this. | Jul 21 23:26 |
| earthling | i am referring to what YOU, ONLY YOU, had just said | Jul 21 23:26 |
| matey | earthling: essen mein sheisse | Jul 21 23:26 |
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| matey | pigdog | Jul 21 23:26 |
| earthling | let me ask, how many need to be killed for you to feel pleasure? | Jul 21 23:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ^^ | Jul 21 23:26 |
| matey | actually youre more of a pigdogs arsehole | Jul 21 23:26 |
| bagira | civilization is measured by how we treat the worst elements in society. punching nazis probably feels good but its barbarism at the end of the day. | Jul 21 23:26 |
| earthling | does this elevate your moral superiority over whatever you feel you were? | Jul 21 23:27 |
| matey | rofl you stupid worthless cunt | Jul 21 23:27 |
| matey | people like you killed millions like me, and you think this is an ego thing | Jul 21 23:27 |
| matey | go put a grenade in your mouth and arse and pull the pins | Jul 21 23:27 |
| matey | try to set yourself on fire first | Jul 21 23:27 |
| earthling | i never killed anyone, and among my family there weren't any NAZI party members | Jul 21 23:27 |
| matey | youre still worse than an idiot | Jul 21 23:28 |
| earthling | in fact, among my family, i knew of at least three casualties to bolshevist terror | Jul 21 23:28 |
| matey | people like you dont have the balls to fight | Jul 21 23:28 |
| bagira | you can't teach inclusion and acceptance with exclusion and denial | Jul 21 23:28 |
| matey | but you cheer on war crimes and genocide | Jul 21 23:28 |
| earthling | and now, i am reading this, in here, matey, what you said | Jul 21 23:28 |
| matey | youre a hypocrite to the core, and the only reason someone else SHOULDNT kill you themselves is youre certifiably fucking nuts | Jul 21 23:28 |
| bagira | who's certifiably nuts | Jul 21 23:29 |
| bagira | i speak only truth | Jul 21 23:29 |
| earthling | 2022-07-21 22:17:01 <matey> if 100,000 right wing germans were chained together at the bottom of the ocean | Jul 21 23:29 |
| earthling | 2022-07-21 22:17:09 <matey> how the fuck are we supposed to set them on fire? | Jul 21 23:29 |
| bagira | to fix the human you must acknowledge their humanity | Jul 21 23:29 |
| matey | /me nods | Jul 21 23:30 |
| MinceR | 22 002829 < bagira> you can't teach inclusion and acceptance with exclusion and denial | Jul 21 23:30 |
| MinceR | you can't teach inclusion or acceptance | Jul 21 23:30 |
| bagira | yes you can | Jul 21 23:30 |
| MinceR | but you might be able to defend yourself | Jul 21 23:30 |
| matey | /me has been listening to this literally fascist spew for ages | Jul 21 23:31 |
| matey | of course, in the right wing version of freedom of speech | Jul 21 23:31 |
| matey | you dont have any freedom to talk back to it | Jul 21 23:31 |
| earthling | i am not citing an arbitrary spew | Jul 21 23:31 |
| matey | because that infringes on | Jul 21 23:31 |
| matey | wait... nothing at all | Jul 21 23:31 |
| earthling | i am citing yours, matey, only yours | Jul 21 23:31 |
| bagira | im just saying you can't fix fascism with the concepts it rests on | Jul 21 23:31 |
| matey | thats true, depending obviously on which concepts you mean | Jul 21 23:32 |
| earthling | the concept being matey intends to burn 100000 humans, quote see above | Jul 21 23:32 |
| bagira | you can destroy fascist organizations but the cultural components that created it are still there unless you fight the concepts driving the people, and that requires acknowledgement of their humanity | Jul 21 23:32 |
| earthling | STOP | Jul 21 23:32 |
| earthling | not any arbitrary organization or idealogy | Jul 21 23:33 |
| matey | nein nein nein | Jul 21 23:33 |
| earthling | just what matey said and wants, only this, only him | Jul 21 23:33 |
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| matey | whenever someone disagrees with him he assumes its arbitrary and unjustified | Jul 21 23:33 |
| MinceR | bagira: how can you defeat the memes someone's mind has already been thoroughly infested with? | Jul 21 23:33 |
| matey | mincer: happens all the time | Jul 21 23:33 |
| matey | maybe not at scale | Jul 21 23:34 |
| matey | /me blames godwin for everything | Jul 21 23:34 |
| bagira | MinceR: by rejecting memeology in its entirely | Jul 21 23:34 |
| MinceR | and? | Jul 21 23:34 |
| matey | i reject any and all influence! | Jul 21 23:34 |
| earthling | i am not presenting this out of context here, just what matey said, only him | Jul 21 23:34 |
| earthling | come on, said it again | Jul 21 23:34 |
| bagira | MinceR: memes are just a kind of propaganda and when you identify it in your interaction as a manipulative conceptual device it gets used less if you raise your expectations of who you're talk to | Jul 21 23:35 |
| matey | earthling: take it up with a tribunal | Jul 21 23:35 |
| matey | maybe the united nations will listen to you | Jul 21 23:35 |
| bagira | *talking | Jul 21 23:35 |
| matey | maybe lieplanet will invade the channel and drag away people who hurt your feelings | Jul 21 23:36 |
| MinceR | bagira: that never worked for me, and afaict it doesn't work for people in general | Jul 21 23:36 |
| bagira | works for me | Jul 21 23:36 |
| earthling | i am not asking any UN or tribunal, i am asking YOU matey | Jul 21 23:36 |
| MinceR | you can expect all you want from e.g. religious zealots and fascists, it isn't going to make them listen to you | Jul 21 23:36 |
| matey | earthling: i dont work for you, i dont answer to you | Jul 21 23:36 |
| MinceR | or to reason | Jul 21 23:36 |
| matey | if you didnt constantly evade it, i wouldnt even see the idiot shit you say | Jul 21 23:36 |
| matey | and if you werent constantally evading with your spam like some cunt selling erection pills via mass email | Jul 21 23:37 |
| matey | i wouldnt respond to you with nastiness | Jul 21 23:37 |
| matey | please feel free to kill yourself | Jul 21 23:37 |
| bagira | i wonder why no one ever talks about the palestinian human rights crisis thats been going on longer than most of us have been alive | Jul 21 23:37 |
| earthling | allright | Jul 21 23:37 |
| earthling | now we got: call for mass murder to please matey | Jul 21 23:38 |
| earthling | and call for suicide to please matey | Jul 21 23:38 |
| bagira | oh. i know. it's because they try to fight back since they know no one is going to help them. | Jul 21 23:38 |
| matey | god its like youre one of kuhns people pretending to be on the other side | Jul 21 23:38 |
| MinceR | bagira: a combination of people not caring and people not believing it can be fixed, i guess | Jul 21 23:38 |
| matey | do you and mjg work together? | Jul 21 23:38 |
| matey | the victim complex is strong | Jul 21 23:39 |
| bagira | kinda hard to talk about modern day fascism without acknowledging what's happening in the gaza strip | Jul 21 23:40 |
| matey | without acknowledging what's happening in the gaza strip <- amen to that | Jul 21 23:40 |
| MinceR | modern day fascism is pretty much everywhere | Jul 21 23:41 |
| bagira | sure, there's history on both sides, but fascism is fascism | Jul 21 23:41 |
| matey | oh its been fascism for ages | Jul 21 23:41 |
| matey | einstein and hannah arendt wrote to the new york times (it was published) | Jul 21 23:41 |
| earthling | 70% of NAZI SA troopers were COMMUNISTS, "beefsteak nazis" | Jul 21 23:41 |
| earthling | go ahead, explain | Jul 21 23:41 |
| matey | complaining that israeli zionists were acting JUST LIKE the nazis he escaped | Jul 21 23:42 |
| MinceR | what a difference! | Jul 21 23:42 |
| matey | earthling, you have the same problem mjg does | Jul 21 23:42 |
| MinceR | fascists with red stars | Jul 21 23:42 |
| matey | you think people owe you an explanation, like its a god-given right | Jul 21 23:42 |
| earthling | and this question was it, which got me banned from "freenode" #politics some years ago | Jul 21 23:42 |
| matey | sorry to disappoint, not sorry | Jul 21 23:42 |
| matey | this | Jul 21 23:42 |
| matey | isnt | Jul 21 23:42 |
| earthling | because supposedly i was conflating this and that, which i didn't | Jul 21 23:42 |
| matey | freenode | Jul 21 23:42 |
| bagira | earthling: i think you're getting hung up on the self-identification of "socialist party" which carried a different implementation than you would associate with socialism by modern definitions | Jul 21 23:42 |
| matey | this is NOTHING like freenode, other than the protocol | Jul 21 23:42 |
| earthling | it is, just a question, what type of mindset that is, which presents itself as "victim" such as matey when calling for mass murder | Jul 21 23:43 |
| matey | the dumbest thing about your question is it was answered | Jul 21 23:43 |
| earthling | poor victim | Jul 21 23:43 |
| matey | RIGHT BEFORE you asked it | Jul 21 23:43 |
| matey | youre just too fucking stupid to see it | Jul 21 23:43 |
| matey | you constantly spew retarded bullshit and you evade filters people set up so they dont have to listen to you shit out of your mouth | Jul 21 23:44 |
| techrights-news | System76 gives the Oryx Pro laptop a powerful refresh http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167498#comment-34410 | Jul 21 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76's Oryx Pro Linux Laptop Gets a 12th Gen Intel CPU, NVIDIA RTX 3000 Ti GPUs | Tux Machines | Jul 21 23:44 | |
| matey | how many nicks have you used? | Jul 21 23:44 |
| techuser | I used a lot of nicks on Discord | Jul 21 23:44 |
| matey | you dont get banned, no one cares if you do or dont | Jul 21 23:45 |
| techuser | SomeH4x0r was meant to be just another one, just fucked things up | Jul 21 23:45 |
| earthling | i am only swapping nicks in here | Jul 21 23:45 |
| techuser | *SomeHacker actually | Jul 21 23:45 |
| bagira | i cycle through nicks like they're cups of coffee | Jul 21 23:45 |
| matey | you arent doing what hes doing, techuser | Jul 21 23:45 |
| earthling | in oftc/libera/freenode i was known by the same name for many years | Jul 21 23:45 |
| techuser | I was registering a new Discord account each time, new nickname | Jul 21 23:45 |
| matey | there are legitimate reasons to use different nicks | Jul 21 23:45 |
| matey | if this was ban evasion i wouldnt even say anything | Jul 21 23:45 |
| bagira | if i stick with one i like i eventually tie it back to my identity though | Jul 21 23:46 |
| matey | people evade bans. thats an effect of bans being too heavy handed | Jul 21 23:46 |
| techuser | supposedly to say something without it being linked to a single identity | Jul 21 23:46 |
| matey | earthling has a new nick every other day | Jul 21 23:46 |
| matey | ive ignored him like 10 or more times | Jul 21 23:46 |
| matey | it gets old | Jul 21 23:46 |
| techuser | /ignore evasion | Jul 21 23:46 |
| bagira | i'll take that a step further that people are *obligated* to evade bans on shithole exclusionist surveillance-heavy networks | Jul 21 23:46 |
| matey | i'll take that a step further that people are *obligated* to evade bans on shithole exclusionist surveillance-heavy networks <- i dont dispute this | Jul 21 23:47 |
| matey | as i said, if it was ban evasion i wouldnt even say anything | Jul 21 23:47 |
| bagira | make it a blow up every time they take unnecessary action | Jul 21 23:47 |
| earthling | 2022-07-21 22:17:01 <matey> if 100,000 right wing germans were chained together at the bottom of the ocean | Jul 21 23:47 |
| earthling | 2022-07-21 22:17:09 <matey> how the fuck are we supposed to set them on fire? | Jul 21 23:47 |
| matey | youre a moron | Jul 21 23:47 |
| earthling | out of nowhere... | Jul 21 23:47 |
| matey | if you think youre going to spew shit all day | Jul 21 23:47 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/easter11.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-easter-11#comic ) | Jul 21 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Jul 21 23:47 | |
| matey | with some right to never have people shit back at you | Jul 21 23:47 |
| matey | youre a moron | Jul 21 23:47 |
| earthling | if at least you could explain, how this is related to the topic discussed before | Jul 21 23:48 |
| matey | ive explained it twice | Jul 21 23:48 |
| earthling | you didn't | Jul 21 23:48 |
| matey | have hermann goering draw you a fucking picture | Jul 21 23:48 |
| bagira | there's a topic? i thought we were just saying that sounds cool until we run out of things to say | Jul 21 23:48 |
| matey | he thinks theres a topic | Jul 21 23:48 |
| matey | hes in his own delusional world | Jul 21 23:48 |
| MinceR | liquid nitrogen | Jul 21 23:48 |
| MinceR | liquid helium | Jul 21 23:48 |
| *psydruid has noticed (some?) Germans really believe in their own exceptionalism and their moral superiority with respect to pretty much every other people, which hints at a severe case of delusion | Jul 21 23:49 | |
| bagira | liquid lsd | Jul 21 23:49 |
| matey | #notallgermans | Jul 21 23:49 |
| MinceR | i suspect that's not limited to germans | Jul 21 23:49 |
| matey | really, im not entirely fair to them collectively | Jul 21 23:49 |
| earthling | "Germans" | Jul 21 23:49 |
| matey | limited, no | Jul 21 23:49 |
| matey | its more of a tendency | Jul 21 23:49 |
| MinceR | many people took readily to fascism | Jul 21 23:49 |
| earthling | as far as i can tell, the appeal of moral superiority stems from elsewhere | Jul 21 23:49 |
| MinceR | hungarians, russians, usians for example | Jul 21 23:49 |
| MinceR | serbs | Jul 21 23:50 |
| matey | germans seem to think theyre the only country with a right to oppress other countries | Jul 21 23:50 |
| matey | or perhaps, theyre the only country looked down on for doing so | Jul 21 23:50 |
| MinceR | russians believe the same | Jul 21 23:50 |
| MinceR | red chinese believe the same | Jul 21 23:50 |
| matey | which has to be why they love russia so much | Jul 21 23:50 |
| MinceR | serbs believe the same | Jul 21 23:50 |
| matey | because now theyre both "victims" of a "misunderstanding" | Jul 21 23:50 |
| MinceR | humans are just shit in general | Jul 21 23:50 |
| psydruid | some former East German guy I've talked to in a chat has been saying that he wants to go hunt down Russians (Zorcs) and kill all 166 million of them | Jul 21 23:54 |
| psydruid | when I tell him that is hypocritical and people may have wanted to do the same thing with Germans (I refer to them as Dorcs in this context), he finds all kinds of excuses saying that they have reformed and are much better people now | Jul 21 23:54 |
| bagira | MinceR: theyre a product of their environment | Jul 21 23:54 |
| matey | that would literally be overkill | Jul 21 23:54 |
| matey | some russians are really nice people | Jul 21 23:54 |
| matey | also, the idea that most support this bullshit is propaganda in and of itself | Jul 21 23:54 |
| matey | the main reason america is making it look like ukraine cant lose is they (officially, at the top) want ukranians as "operation get behind the darkies", the albino version | Jul 21 23:55 |
| bagira | MinceR: unless they're an arby's franchise owner who decides they shouldn't put the red ranch sauce on their beef and cheddar, those people can just go to hell | Jul 21 23:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 23:55 |
| matey | america pulled the same shit in the same region (with germany) in wwii | Jul 21 23:55 |
| MinceR | yes, there's a nice minority | Jul 21 23:56 |
| matey | im hopeful for ukraine but ive decided not to cheer them on any further | Jul 21 23:56 |
| bagira | wtf is up with arby's these last few years anyway, their bread is like theyve been pulling it out of a freezer since the 90s | Jul 21 23:56 |
| MinceR | which usually doesn't get to have a say in much of what happens | Jul 21 23:56 |
| matey | /me noticed a drop in arbys quality 20 years ago and hasnt gone back | Jul 21 23:56 |
| matey | if theyve dropped again id recommend just diving into the dumpster at kfc, it cant be as bad as arbys is now | Jul 21 23:57 |
| MinceR | dunno, there are no arby's here | Jul 21 23:57 |
| bagira | if theyd just order fresh buns again theyd be a hit again | Jul 21 23:57 |
| matey | well thats one good thing about hungary, if its the only thing | Jul 21 23:57 |
| matey | no arbys | Jul 21 23:57 |
| matey | when tasty period runs out of the genuine article and has to make their own | Jul 21 23:57 |
| matey | instead of just covering the old logo with a marker pen | Jul 21 23:57 |
| matey | that will look like the ritz carlton next to | Jul 21 23:58 |
| matey | etc | Jul 21 23:58 |
| bagira | you know youre doing something wrong when mcdonald's has better bread quality than your food chain | Jul 21 23:58 |
| matey | wendys vs arbys | Jul 21 23:58 |
| matey | round 1-- fight! | Jul 21 23:58 |
| techrights-news | The EPO‘s Georg 'HYDRA' Weber looks like some of the “baddies” in Captain America; it makes jokes hard to resist http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/georg-weber-joke/ | Jul 21 23:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] EPO President ‘F’ Delivers Instructions to Georg Weber | Techrights | Jul 21 23:58 | |
| bagira | i am | Jul 21 23:58 |
| bagira | absolutely certain | Jul 21 23:58 |
| bagira | that there is a porn about that | Jul 21 23:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 23:58 |
| techrights-news | European software patents have been ushered in by Benoît Battistelli (grant rates soared from 2% to 10%) and leaked communications suggest that António Campinos intends to take this disturbing trend a lot further (whilst attempting to replace European patent courts with his ‘UPC’ kangaroo courts) http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/leaked-email-epo-swpats/ | Jul 21 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Bubble — Part X — A Leaked E-mail Provides Some Clues… | Techrights | Jul 21 23:59 | |
| bagira | ron mcdonald and wendy | Jul 21 23:59 |
| matey | i dunno, japan made a female ronald mcdonald and i havent gotten her out of my head for years | Jul 21 23:59 |
| techrights-news | Another homage to Georg Weber, who wants to “protect” coders by taking away their freedom to code with an ocean of European software patents http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/removing-freedom-algorithm/ | Jul 21 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] “So I Wrote an Algorithm” | Techrights | Jul 21 23:59 | |
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