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| schestowitz[TR2] | even 24k | Jul 23 00:00 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | 28k | Jul 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 14.4 | Jul 23 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | Assuming you blocked the video player and ads, the site would probably take almost 5 minutes to come through as a Web page on a 56k modem, even with v.92 compression on. | Jul 23 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | It just wouldn't be practical. | Jul 23 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | Web to GemText would take 2 seconds. | Jul 23 00:02 |
| matey | what are you going to do with 14.4 | Jul 23 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | Gemini would work fine. | Jul 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | just as the web worked fine back then | Jul 23 00:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | a bit heavier in the markup sense | Jul 23 00:09 |
| phanes | youre not going to make much hedway into debian's issues until you address the neil mcgovern factor | Jul 23 00:10 |
| matey | youre not going to make much hedway into debian's issues <- he never will | Jul 23 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy's helping me in the kitchen. | Jul 23 00:10 |
| matey | emphasis on never | Jul 23 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'm making a crab imperial casserole. | Jul 23 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Man I hope it's good. The crab alone cost a fortune. | Jul 23 00:11 |
| phanes | also in that context | Jul 23 00:11 |
| matey | the dds get the gravy but the users get the beans | Jul 23 00:11 |
| phanes | i wonder why elana hashmann isn't brought up here | Jul 23 00:11 |
| matey | ooooh | Jul 23 00:11 |
| matey | elana hashmann | Jul 23 00:11 |
| matey | i think she was, years ago | Jul 23 00:12 |
| matey | no sarcasm: how is she relevant to all this now | Jul 23 00:12 |
| phanes | i mean its an obviously personality disorder and toxic influence that was central to the stallman smear campaign and im not sure what else | Jul 23 00:12 |
| matey | where does she even hail from? debian? osi? gnome? | Jul 23 00:12 |
| phanes | all 3 and redhat most recently | Jul 23 00:13 |
| matey | so basically a girl version of mjg then | Jul 23 00:13 |
| phanes | i would agree with that | Jul 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | hashman is not important | Jul 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we also stopped bringing bully de icaza here | Jul 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | (blanc) | Jul 23 00:13 |
| matey | roy downplays the coup | Jul 23 00:13 |
| matey | acts like its old unimportant news | Jul 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | hashman mostly 'vanished' | Jul 23 00:14 |
| matey | then denies it of course | Jul 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like neil mcgovern | Jul 23 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | Mr. GULAG displays signs of a few things in my opinion. | Jul 23 00:14 |
| matey | its funny | Jul 23 00:14 |
| matey | alex gravely vanishes and he does 100 pieces on it | Jul 23 00:14 |
| matey | which i understand | Jul 23 00:14 |
| phanes | hashman is a tactical point of failure in these campaigns | Jul 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | deb icaza is another one... they ruin their credibility and become low profile | Jul 23 00:14 |
| matey | what i dont get is that people closer to coup (the feet on the ground) | Jul 23 00:14 |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jul 23 00:14 | |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jul 23 00:14 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | same for miguel e icaza | Jul 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | apparneltyy fired | Jul 23 00:14 |
| matey | when they vanish he acts like they never existed | Jul 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no | Jul 23 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Narcissism, and almost like a borderline and histrionic personality. | Jul 23 00:15 |
| matey | and become low profile <- the relevance | Jul 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it means we need to focus on those sctive as a prioriuty | Jul 23 00:15 |
| matey | 23:15 <schestowitz[TR2]> no 23:14 <matey> then denies it of course | Jul 23 00:15 |
| matey | well heres why thats dumb. | Jul 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we could still boycott novel, y'know? | Jul 23 00:15 |
| matey | heres a big picture that tells us a lot. | Jul 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | excewpt it ceased to exist | Jul 23 00:15 |
| matey | yeah boycott novell was better. | Jul 23 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, that's not a professional diagnosis. | Jul 23 00:15 |
| matey | the big picture tells us more | Jul 23 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Merely some things I'd suspect a psychiatrist would pick up on. In my lay opinion. | Jul 23 00:16 |
| matey | by focusing on the present, you let them control the narrative by disappearing and changing their rhetoric | Jul 23 00:16 |
| matey | if you want to tell the actual story | Jul 23 00:16 |
| matey | you cant ignore whats happened | Jul 23 00:16 |
| matey | and the reason you think you need to focus on the present is its more about pageviews than journalism | Jul 23 00:16 |
| matey | you dont want people to say "oh, this is old news" and skip it | Jul 23 00:16 |
| matey | you want them to go OOH JUICY GOSS! and scroll while drooling over nothing | Jul 23 00:17 |
| matey | however, for some of us the actual story (and what to do about it) is more important | Jul 23 00:17 |
| matey | so focusing too exclusively on the present is useless | Jul 23 00:17 |
| matey | even detrimental-- though of course the present matters too | Jul 23 00:17 |
| matey | its the past of the future! | Jul 23 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla isn't a software company. | Jul 23 00:17 |
| matey | and the future of the past | Jul 23 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | They crossed the threshold into like 60% bullshit 40% software. | Jul 23 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | The software throws the bullshit in your face. | Jul 23 00:18 |
| matey | accuweather focuses on the present of the weather down to the minute | Jul 23 00:18 |
| matey | while downplaying trends that will make or break the human race | Jul 23 00:18 |
| matey | you can do that too | Jul 23 00:18 |
| matey | but expect people to make fun of it | Jul 23 00:18 |
| *phanes wonders if he broke mjg59_ or something, he's been quiet | Jul 23 00:19 | |
| matey | just yesterday you said "we fight too" | Jul 23 00:19 |
| matey | well, no. no you dont. you sensationalise | Jul 23 00:19 |
| matey | thats not fighting | Jul 23 00:19 |
| matey | its "goss" | Jul 23 00:20 |
| phanes | my perception of roy is that he's conflict-avoidant but wants to get the truth out, has some difficulty with separation of issues in content | Jul 23 00:20 |
| matey | then you say its because its really about the epo, not free software | Jul 23 00:20 |
| matey | because the narrative changes on a whim all the time | Jul 23 00:20 |
| matey | because there isnt a real reason (or at least, its none of the above) | Jul 23 00:20 |
| matey | maybe its really about nothing | Jul 23 00:21 |
| phanes | schestowitz[TR2]: btw are you on the spectrum? | Jul 23 00:21 |
| matey | <phanes> ACTION wonders if he broke mjg59_ or something <- despite having helpers, he cant be | Jul 23 00:21 |
| matey | no hes not on the spectrum | Jul 23 00:21 |
| matey | hes normie af | Jul 23 00:21 |
| matey | which would be fine, some of my best friends are normies | Jul 23 00:21 |
| phanes | idk some of the mannerisms suggest some mild autism to me | Jul 23 00:21 |
| matey | hes a german in britain with some ocd-like tendencies that could easily be misdiagnosed as on the spectrum | Jul 23 00:22 |
| matey | says random internet person with no degree in psych, but thats the internet for you | Jul 23 00:22 |
| phanes | yeah that whole "i publish private messages without asking first" thing comes across as neurodivergent tbh | Jul 23 00:23 |
| matey | germans are issued ocd in the womb, if im not mistaken | Jul 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | phanes> schestowitz[TR2]: btw are you on the spectrum? | Jul 23 00:23 |
| matey | maybe its just petty though | Jul 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | did you stop beating up the rife? | Jul 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *wife | Jul 23 00:23 |
| phanes | eh? | Jul 23 00:23 |
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| matey | he thinks on the spectrum is an accusation | Jul 23 00:24 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167547 | Jul 23 00:24 |
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| matey | but he wont get defensive if you say hes a normie | Jul 23 00:24 |
| techrights-news | Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167548 | Jul 23 00:24 |
| phanes | ive never been involved or even accused of violence towards any woman, THOUGH I CAN'T SAY I'VE NEVER BEEN TEMPTED :d | Jul 23 00:24 |
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| matey | i can explain this but its also not important | Jul 23 00:24 |
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| matey | <phanes> yeah that whole "i publish private messages without asking first" <- emails too | Jul 23 00:25 |
| matey | heres a better question (for clarity) | Jul 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | phanes: you said I'm conflict-adverse | Jul 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that's not true | Jul 23 00:26 |
| matey | is google on the spectrum? because they sift through email for advertising purposes | Jul 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but our style varies a lot | Jul 23 00:26 |
| matey | he likes conflict | Jul 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and you mass-banned in #fsf | Jul 23 00:26 |
| matey | putting a bag of poo on fire on someone doorstep, ringing the bell and running away is conflict too | Jul 23 00:27 |
| matey | and you mass-banned in #fsf <- i guess this is about you now phanes | Jul 23 00:27 |
| matey | funny you hit a nerve i didnt think he had | Jul 23 00:27 |
| phanes | schestowitz[TR2]: in all fairness, it's not possible to do that twice because they're all gone after the first time | Jul 23 00:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | short fuse | Jul 23 00:28 |
| phanes | feel free to quote me on that as my formal response | Jul 23 00:28 |
| matey | control freaks look like they have ocd | Jul 23 00:28 |
| phanes | short fuse? no i had no personal or direct conflict with #fsf and liked most of the people in there | Jul 23 00:28 |
| matey | but ocd (while co-morbid with autism) isnt the only cause of control freaks | Jul 23 00:28 |
| matey | <phanes> short fuse? no i had no personal or direct conflict with #fsf <- and now its about you | Jul 23 00:29 |
| matey | despite the fact that in most contexts he will complain that these people banned without due cause | Jul 23 00:29 |
| matey | in this instance it implies something | Jul 23 00:29 |
| matey | welcome to my world | Jul 23 00:29 |
| matey | i was banned from linuxquestions | Jul 23 00:30 |
| matey | i refused to be bullied by their systemd dick sucking contest | Jul 23 00:30 |
| matey | i had countless useful and interesting exchanges there | Jul 23 00:30 |
| phanes | i think what he's confused about is that I actually bite back instead of just antagonizing people from a distance, and i bite back hard to make it an expensive process. | Jul 23 00:30 |
| matey | but once youre targeted by moderators, its over | Jul 23 00:30 |
| matey | i think what he's confused about is that I actually bite back <- ill quote mitt romney in the epic rap battle | Jul 23 00:30 |
| matey | IM NOT GONNA LET THIS BATTLE BE DICTATED BY FACTS | Jul 23 00:31 |
| matey | some people dont care about that | Jul 23 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | phaneswonders if he broke mjg59_ or something, he's been quiet | Jul 23 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Point out that "partner" is a conservative microaggression that's used against gay people. | Jul 23 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | That ought to wind him back up for about an hour. | Jul 23 00:31 |
| phanes | if we start policing language so much around feelings we're going to eventually run out of words | Jul 23 00:32 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: What word should I be using? | Jul 23 00:32 |
| phanes | there he is | Jul 23 00:32 |
| phanes | mjg59_: have you shaved off your eyebrows yet? | Jul 23 00:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | now you are just looking for conflict | Jul 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and not based on tech issues | Jul 23 00:33 |
| matey | if we start policing language so much around feelings we're going to eventually run out of words <- that is one of the notable hazards | Jul 23 00:33 |
| matey | <schestowitz[TR2]> and not based on tech issues <- cancellation is a tech issue | Jul 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | this feeds the "OSI criticis are homophobic" trupe | Jul 23 00:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *tripe | Jul 23 00:33 |
| matey | it killed the linux kernel and the fsf | Jul 23 00:34 |
| phanes | it is, and its not a new conflict, it is one long string of conflict that ends with repairs to the communities impact | Jul 23 00:34 |
| phanes | *communities impacted | Jul 23 00:34 |
| matey | phanes: "we move on" | Jul 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | matey: no | Jul 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | i starts culture wars in IRC | Jul 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and not wars over tech | Jul 23 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | phanesthere he is | Jul 23 00:34 |
| matey | oh! now it only affects irc | Jul 23 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | Told you. | Jul 23 00:34 |
| matey | phanes, did you hit him over the head with that barrel? | Jul 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | fwiw, "both sides" can do it | Jul 23 00:34 |
| matey | here we go | Jul 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and either way it derails the causes | Jul 23 00:35 |
| matey | roys saying dont cancel the cancellers again | Jul 23 00:35 |
| matey | so just them take over and run shit. | Jul 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no | Jul 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he gets them gfoing | Jul 23 00:35 |
| phanes | matey: no im still in research and planning spikes | Jul 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and later they link to it | Jul 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and call us names | Jul 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and it's time-wasting | Jul 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | because we have many tech issues to cover | Jul 23 00:35 |
| matey | phanes: your research is consistent and (from what ive seen at least) based on thinking about things in context | Jul 23 00:35 |
| matey | roy i dont know what youre talking about. i suspect that makes three of us | Jul 23 00:36 |
| matey | but this is one of your narratives, its only a matter of which one | Jul 23 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | I try to gravitate towards platforms that aren't controlled by Cancel Culture. | Jul 23 00:36 |
| matey | theyre all tedious and timewasting | Jul 23 00:36 |
| matey | and miss the point | Jul 23 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | They're outnumbered, but wasting your time with them is pointless. | Jul 23 00:36 |
| matey | and theyre all presented as a way to "get" the point | Jul 23 00:36 |
| matey | but there isnt one | Jul 23 00:37 |
| matey | at least as long as we do it your way | Jul 23 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ is the kind of person who ruins Disney and shits all over your childhood. | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | 23 011840 < matey> while downplaying trends that will make or break the human race | Jul 23 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I got to see their parks before Cancel Culture won. | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | i don't need accuweather to tell me we're boiling ourselves to death, but it can still be useful to know what weather to expect today or tomorrow | Jul 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | matey: the reason mjg was muted last year was, | Jul 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he would bring up sex | Jul 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and then use the resultant mess to defame us | Jul 23 00:37 |
| matey | it can still be useful to know what weather to expect today or tomorrow <- of course it is, thats why i use it too | Jul 23 00:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and now phanes does the same in reverse | Jul 23 00:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and it just derails the channekl | Jul 23 00:38 |
| matey | but theyre still using that as bait to downplay other important things | Jul 23 00:38 |
| matey | and thats the parallel | Jul 23 00:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | which is abiut tech and patents mostly | Jul 23 00:38 |
| techrights-news | eight bits gemini://sadbeast.com/posts/eight-bits.gmi | Jul 23 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | One of the first things to go was that you couldn't depict pirates as chasing after women (it implies rape). They used to have part of the animatronic Pirates ride a pirate chasing a woman around a barrel. | Jul 23 00:38 |
| phanes | yeah he's been trying really hard to bring up topics to capture out of context test bytes but he's not exactly hard to spot when he's doing it | Jul 23 00:38 |
| matey | and now phanes does the same in reverse <- so youre against analysis of the coup just like youre against people using bsd to get away from sytemd? | Jul 23 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Which is something a pirate would probably do. They're outlaws. | Jul 23 00:38 |
| matey | "this doesnt need to be our #1 priority"-- roy on people using bsd to get away from systemd | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | 23 012438 < matey> but he wont get defensive if you say hes a normie | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | maybe because it's meaningless | Jul 23 00:39 |
| matey | normie isnt meaningless | Jul 23 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Certainly nobody at Disney was implying that being a lawbreaker who raped women was acceptable. | Jul 23 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | It was just a stupid ride about pirates. | Jul 23 00:39 |
| matey | its the opposite of neurodivergent | Jul 23 00:39 |
| matey | imo the best way to use it is when normies are being cunts to those who are neurodivergent | Jul 23 00:40 |
| phanes | i haven't heard normie used that weay | Jul 23 00:40 |
| phanes | *way | Jul 23 00:40 |
| matey | other than that i think its a bit rude, but thats just my opinion | Jul 23 00:40 |
| matey | theres another way to use it | Jul 23 00:40 |
| MinceR | 23 013935 < matey> its the opposite of neurodivergent | Jul 23 00:40 |
| matey | like trans people use "cis" | Jul 23 00:40 |
| MinceR | it's yet another of the millions of insults imageboard people throw at people they dislike | Jul 23 00:40 |
| matey | no, neurodivergent isnt meaningless | Jul 23 00:40 |
| MinceR | like "cringe" | Jul 23 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then the left has suppressed the film in which the first black actor won an Oscar award. | Jul 23 00:40 |
| phanes | when i use the term normies im usually talking about average IQ people | Jul 23 00:41 |
| matey | it's yet another of the millions of insults <- it may be used that way, but it still has a meaning | Jul 23 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | The only way you can see it is to download a bootlegged copy. | Jul 23 00:41 |
| matey | why does being an insult make it not have a meaning? | Jul 23 00:41 |
| matey | its not arbitrary | Jul 23 00:41 |
| matey | <phanes> when i use the term normies im usually talking about average IQ people <- telling someone theyre "average" implies something less than flattering | Jul 23 00:42 |
| matey | even if its a stastistical fact | Jul 23 00:42 |
| phanes | i mean | Jul 23 00:42 |
| phanes | not everybody gets to be amazing | Jul 23 00:42 |
| matey | someone may FACTUALLY be an idiot | Jul 23 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, the film "Song of the South" is hardly a great movie, but it had moments where it was pretty okay. And they censor an achievement by black actors. | Jul 23 00:42 |
| phanes | sorry | Jul 23 00:42 |
| matey | yeah but to be fair | Jul 23 00:42 |
| matey | theres more than one way to be amazing | Jul 23 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | They finally won an Oscar, and here the left comes to take it away! | Jul 23 00:42 |
| phanes | its something is amazing its definitionally not normal | Jul 23 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | Then they censored Splash Mountain. | Jul 23 00:43 |
| matey | but normie doesnt mean not amazing | Jul 23 00:43 |
| matey | it means not neurodivergent | Jul 23 00:43 |
| phanes | to me it does | Jul 23 00:43 |
| matey | fair enough | Jul 23 00:43 |
| phanes | there are plenty of autist normies | Jul 23 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't go to Disney World for free today. | Jul 23 00:43 |
| phanes | not every autist is high functioning | Jul 23 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | If I won tickets in a contest, I'd sell them to someone else. | Jul 23 00:43 |
| phanes | im not on the spectrum | Jul 23 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Walking around in the sun all day standing in line so when I get up there I'm told what I'm allowed to see by the SJWs is not gonna happen. | Jul 23 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | Much less paying for it. | Jul 23 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | Being racist is fine and acceptable in America today.....you can absolutely be as racist as you want, as long as the victim is white. You can say anything you want about white people, you can lie about us, you can slander us, you can make up any negative and false stereotype. You can treat us as badly in court as what you say the system does to black people, and you can have the cops kill us... | Jul 23 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | ...in the back of police cars, or for reaching for our driver's license. And nobody is going to riot and set fires. | Jul 23 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Hell, nobody is even going to report it! | Jul 23 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | So knock yourself out. If you're part of the left, you've won. | Jul 23 00:47 |
| matey | anyway, the coup is one of the most important things about the history of the movement | Jul 23 00:47 |
| matey | not the only important thing, but highly important | Jul 23 00:47 |
| phanes | not unless you can prove it | Jul 23 00:48 |
| matey | letting it fall by the wayside only helps the occupation | Jul 23 00:48 |
| matey | <phanes> not unless you can prove it <- wait, what? | Jul 23 00:48 |
| phanes | when you're dealing with reality warpers history is the last victim | Jul 23 00:48 |
| matey | rewriting history has been an open source tactic since 1998 | Jul 23 00:48 |
| matey | linus wrote an operating system | Jul 23 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | They have white people so self-deprecating that when the police commit misconduct against us, the other white people even say "he probably deserved it". | Jul 23 00:48 |
| matey | the fuck you say | Jul 23 00:48 |
| matey | linus co-opted a movement and then said the movement was about hate | Jul 23 00:49 |
| matey | i like him just 1% more than you like mjg | Jul 23 00:49 |
| matey | he equated standing up to corporate hegemony with "hate" | Jul 23 00:49 |
| matey | thats how stallman was ousted | Jul 23 00:49 |
| phanes | i mean | Jul 23 00:49 |
| phanes | if these leaders had social or strategic acumen they'd BE their corporate counterparts | Jul 23 00:50 |
| matey | they have a strategy | Jul 23 00:50 |
| matey | suck dicks | Jul 23 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | If Ian Murdock had been black, liberals would have torn up city hall in San Francisco on a mission to prove the police either killed him or set out to frame him. | Jul 23 00:50 |
| matey | thats a strategy | Jul 23 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | There would be resignations. Firings. | Jul 23 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | Regime change. | Jul 23 00:50 |
| matey | linus did this less than people like gkh | Jul 23 00:50 |
| matey | tso did this less than even torvalds i think | Jul 23 00:51 |
| matey | these are the people you want to weed out if you want hegemony | Jul 23 00:51 |
| matey | but linus was never on our side. he was on theirs | Jul 23 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the way mjg59_ works, it's like President Clark's regime in B5. You know. | Jul 23 00:51 |
| matey | he did insist on having principles. he had a spine | Jul 23 00:51 |
| matey | but he was still on the other team | Jul 23 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's like how ISN switches over to more and more bullshit until they just lie openly and expect nobody to rebut them. | Jul 23 00:51 |
| matey | and ultimately the game didnt change | Jul 23 00:51 |
| matey | they ousted him to keep tso out | Jul 23 00:51 |
| phanes | i trhink youre making some assumptions there. what if he just knows he's getting old and doesn't want to leave his life work to the mercy of non-contributing activists | Jul 23 00:51 |
| matey | they fucked up tso for good measure. always double tap | Jul 23 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | He's on a mission to do character assassinations against all of the important people in the FOSS community, while having done nothing for it except sabotage. | Jul 23 00:52 |
| matey | i trhink youre making some assumptions there. <- i mean | Jul 23 00:52 |
| matey | this is the concluision that YEARS of research brings me to | Jul 23 00:52 |
| matey | what am i assuming? | Jul 23 00:52 |
| matey | i could always be wrong | Jul 23 00:52 |
| matey | id like to be wrong more often | Jul 23 00:52 |
| matey | sometimes i am | Jul 23 00:52 |
| phanes | i was wrong once | Jul 23 00:52 |
| matey | oh ive been wrong enough times for now | Jul 23 00:53 |
| phanes | i thought i was wrong about something for a bit and then looked it up and it turned out i was right | Jul 23 00:53 |
| phanes | :D | Jul 23 00:53 |
| matey | i thought microsoft was going to buy red hat, RIGHT before ibm did | Jul 23 00:53 |
| matey | im told microsofts deal was on the table though | Jul 23 00:53 |
| matey | ibm and microsoft are easier to understand if you think of them as the same company-- despite the fact theyre not | Jul 23 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft isn't hiring. They're not a healthy company. | Jul 23 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | I think mjg59_'s endgame was probably to get a job there like Miguel. | Jul 23 00:54 |
| phanes | i turn down offers from msft all the time, theyre hiring | Jul 23 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | But that's a guess. Anyway, they're on a hiring freeze for the most part. | Jul 23 00:54 |
| matey | i guess ariadne does too | Jul 23 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | They did a bunch of stealth layoffs. Not big enough to draw major headlines. | Jul 23 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | All adding up. | Jul 23 00:55 |
| matey | i think i know how roy distinguishes between what needs to be talked about and what doesnt | Jul 23 00:57 |
| matey | its pretty straightforward | Jul 23 00:57 |
| matey | maybe "straightforward" is the wrong word. but its not complicated | Jul 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <phanes> i turn down offers from msft all the time, theyre hiring | Jul 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they don't | Jul 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | a month ago sources near microsoft told me they had stopped | Jul 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | days ago the MSM confiurmed too | Jul 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but late | Jul 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | red hat loses amanager sand engs very fast | Jul 23 00:58 |
| matey | www.cnbc.com/2022/07/20/microsoft-eases-up-on-hiring-as-economic-concerns-hit-more-of-the-tech-industry.html | Jul 23 00:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so quality of support and their products/eingeering will sink soon, if not already | Jul 23 00:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▇▄▆▅▄▅▅▅▇▆▆▅▅▆▆▄▅▆▇▄▄▅▆▅▁▃▄▅▃▄▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.81 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 7.80▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Eases up" | Jul 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the economy is "easing up" | Jul 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "it's not a recssion!!" | Jul 23 00:59 |
| matey | our pockets were getting to be a heavy burden | Jul 23 00:59 |
| matey | we can relax now | Jul 23 00:59 |
| phanes | in all fairness to that, quality of engineer and support at most of the big names is in freefall the last few years | Jul 23 00:59 |
| matey | take some of that weight off | Jul 23 01:00 |
| phanes | i cant complain, its how i make my money | Jul 23 01:00 |
| matey | international shipping is easing up too | Jul 23 01:00 |
| matey | if you were bothered by the hustle and bustle of too many things going through too quickly, you can breathe a sigh of relief | Jul 23 01:01 |
| phanes | coming in and fixing bullshit | Jul 23 01:01 |
| matey | i ordered some things half a year ago | Jul 23 01:01 |
| matey | /me shrugs | Jul 23 01:01 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft: Stay in Our Proprietary Prison (GitHub) and Attract Other People to This Prison, We’ll Give You ’Gifts’ | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/22/github-network-effect-curl/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/22/github-network-effect-curl/ | Jul 23 01:02 |
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| matey | <matey> i think i know how roy distinguishes between what needs to be talked about and what doesnt | Jul 23 01:03 |
| matey | ill give an example of this | Jul 23 01:03 |
| matey | a while ago crystalmath came in and recommended roy promote the stallmansupport website | Jul 23 01:03 |
| britney | well well well, i got discord working in pidgin :D | Jul 23 01:04 |
| matey | roy said we need to get away from this | Jul 23 01:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ?? | Jul 23 01:04 |
| britney | Pidgin: 66MB ram, Discord: Over 300! | Jul 23 01:04 |
| matey | then a few days later started mirroring all the articles | Jul 23 01:04 |
| matey | its in the logs roy | Jul 23 01:04 |
| matey | your own logs | Jul 23 01:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I still link to that site every time it has an update | Jul 23 01:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I last checked it for updates 3 hours ago | Jul 23 01:04 |
| matey | my point is | Jul 23 01:04 |
| matey | originally, you dismissed it as the sort of thing we need to "move on" from | Jul 23 01:04 |
| matey | so as i was saying | Jul 23 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | well maybe... | Jul 23 01:05 |
| matey | <matey> i think i know how roy distinguishes between what needs to be talked about and what doesnt | Jul 23 01:05 |
| matey | stuff roy can write/talk about (or has new information on) | Jul 23 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | i mean sure, Stallman has been uncancelled successfully, that's a win | Jul 23 01:05 |
| matey | thats the stuff "we" should make "our" priority | Jul 23 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | but we need to absolutely make fun of the horrible people who tried to throw mud at him | Jul 23 01:05 |
| matey | if he had new information on the coup, "we" should discuss it | Jul 23 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | and absolutely drive those people into the ground | Jul 23 01:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | did we get hackernews'd or something? | Jul 23 01:05 |
| matey | if he doesnt, "we" should move on | Jul 23 01:05 |
| matey | if someone else has information on the vcoup | Jul 23 01:06 |
| matey | "we" should "move on" | Jul 23 01:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 2000 res in a minute | Jul 23 01:06 |
| matey | it all depends on who has the scoop | Jul 23 01:06 |
| CrystalMath | that is, we need to punish cancel culture with ridicule so that they NEVER think about doing something like this again | Jul 23 01:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *reqs | Jul 23 01:06 |
| matey | probably the cia realising how vital techrights is and reenacting the bay of pigs (online version) | Jul 23 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | the retarded gnome, what's his name, Neil McGovern or something? and that has-been, Molly LeBlanc... these people can never be forgiven | Jul 23 01:07 |
| matey | maybe twitter featured tr in everyones feed at once | Jul 23 01:08 |
| matey | #wefighttoo | Jul 23 01:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | #WeFuntoo | Jul 23 01:09 |
| phanes | CrystalMath: im gathering material to do that in my own way, i need names and logs: abuse@silogroup.org | Jul 23 01:09 |
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| CrystalMath | hi phanes! | Jul 23 01:09 |
| CrystalMath | how's it been? | Jul 23 01:09 |
| phanes | how ya doin? been a while. I've been busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest | Jul 23 01:10 |
| phanes | mostly work shit | Jul 23 01:11 |
| phanes | but | Jul 23 01:11 |
| CrystalMath | i'm okay | Jul 23 01:11 |
| phanes | did launch www.abuseonline.org to start documenting the shit that's been going down the last few years | Jul 23 01:11 |
| phanes | need people to use it by sending reports to that abuse@silogroup.org email | Jul 23 01:11 |
| phanes | our old pal matthew garrett gets to be the cornerstone | Jul 23 01:12 |
| matey | phanes: can you think of a recent example of something worthy of a silogroup email? | Jul 23 01:12 |
| matey | i cannot. but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist | Jul 23 01:12 |
| phanes | matey: its for documenting serial defamation and defamation campaigns | Jul 23 01:13 |
| matey | and the most recent one i know of is from early 2021 | Jul 23 01:13 |
| phanes | so these would be actors with a pattern of it that need a timeline presented | Jul 23 01:13 |
| matey | has anything happened since? | Jul 23 01:14 |
| matey | techrights used to cover this stuff | Jul 23 01:14 |
| matey | but sometimes it goes soft | Jul 23 01:14 |
| matey | happens to everyone | Jul 23 01:14 |
| matey | (its not soft on the epo, to be fair) | Jul 23 01:14 |
| phanes | yeah im looking into a prominent dev that had abusers should up to his house to intimidate him into resigning control over a fork of a major piece of software | Jul 23 01:15 |
| phanes | *abusers show up | Jul 23 01:15 |
| matey | youre joking about the intimidate them at home bit, yes? | Jul 23 01:15 |
| matey | like they did to the fox news slimeball? | Jul 23 01:15 |
| phanes | no unfortunately not, they physically attacked him at knife point | Jul 23 01:16 |
| matey | uh what? | Jul 23 01:16 |
| phanes | im still researching it so i dont want to make assertions like that yet | Jul 23 01:16 |
| phanes | i only just got in contact yesterday | Jul 23 01:16 |
| matey | that will be an interesting read | Jul 23 01:16 |
| matey | make sure someone isnt baiting you with nonsense | Jul 23 01:16 |
| phanes | right | Jul 23 01:16 |
| matey | then again the way musescore has been | Jul 23 01:16 |
| matey | hey, did you cover musescore threatening to call ICE on that dev or something? | Jul 23 01:17 |
| matey | it was that shady | Jul 23 01:17 |
| phanes | no, send a report to abuse@silogroup.org | Jul 23 01:17 |
| techrights-news | FFmpeg 5.1 "Riemann" • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167551 | Jul 23 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 5.1 "Riemann" | Tux Machines | Jul 23 01:17 | |
| phanes | times, links that prove it, descriptions | Jul 23 01:17 |
| matey | i tyhink there was commentary on github actually | Jul 23 01:17 |
| matey | and if im linking to github, you know theres got to be reason | Jul 23 01:18 |
| matey | as im extremely averse to it | Jul 23 01:18 |
| matey | to a point most would consider absurd | Jul 23 01:18 |
| phanes | no email, no publish | Jul 23 01:18 |
| matey | fair enough | Jul 23 01:19 |
| phanes | or as our occupational forefathers would say: "No ticket, no fix-it" | Jul 23 01:19 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167552 | Jul 23 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 01:19 | |
| techrights-news | Daniel Stenberg still does not seem to get it; curl helps Microsoft entrap many users and developers and just because Microsoft keeps ‘bribing’ him in all sorts of ways (several recent examples are shown above — all from his blog) doesn’t mean it’s safe to stay there http://techrights.org/2022/07/22/github-network-effect-curl/ | Jul 23 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Stay in Our Proprietary Prison (GitHub) and Attract Other People to This Prison, We’ll Give You ‘Gifts’ | Techrights | Jul 23 01:21 | |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D300.jpg | Jul 23 01:21 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D651.jpg | Jul 23 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | "In March, Rajesh Jha, the executive in charge of Office productivity software and part of the Windows operating system, told his organization to be cautious about opening new roles and to get permission from his leadership team ahead of time." | Jul 23 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | So Office is finally starting to go south too? | Jul 23 01:22 |
| matey | lol | Jul 23 01:22 |
| matey | ive narroed when roy dismissed the stallmansupport website down to april | Jul 23 01:23 |
| matey | so he was ready to "move on" the same month (at least in irc) | Jul 23 01:23 |
| matey | meanwhile of course he continued to publish the latest stats on the support letter-- reasonably so | Jul 23 01:23 |
| matey | the point is-- one was about what he was publishing anyway | Jul 23 01:23 |
| matey | the other wasnt | Jul 23 01:23 |
| matey | thats the difference | Jul 23 01:23 |
| matey | ah, but the support letter was positive | Jul 23 01:24 |
| CrystalMath | matey: what is your point? | Jul 23 01:24 |
| matey | so lets pretend this is about focusing on the positive | Jul 23 01:24 |
| matey | which is what jono bacon used to call for-- one of roys most favouritist people | Jul 23 01:24 |
| MinceR | 23 022242 < DaemonFC> So Office is finally starting to go south too? | Jul 23 01:24 |
| matey | #openwemoveon | Jul 23 01:24 |
| MinceR | starting? | Jul 23 01:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | april can be 6 weeks later | Jul 23 01:24 |
| matey | april is the same month whether its 6 weeks or not | Jul 23 01:25 |
| matey | you think the coup stopped being important 6 weeks in? | Jul 23 01:25 |
| matey | we didnt even know half the shit there was to know about it then | Jul 23 01:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it started in march | Jul 23 01:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | iirc, march 22nd | Jul 23 01:25 |
| matey | you were still downplaying gnomes involvement | Jul 23 01:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | not yet set up in microsoftfortress | Jul 23 01:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | with typescreipt (mirosoft) | Jul 23 01:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | signed by microsofters | Jul 23 01:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but threats against fsf started the following day | Jul 23 01:26 |
| matey | oh, i know what im thinking of | Jul 23 01:26 |
| matey | the letter was in march? | Jul 23 01:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 26th? | Jul 23 01:26 |
| matey | im thinking of the gnu.fools coup. | Jul 23 01:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | wednesday iirc | Jul 23 01:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and the rms thing was sunday night? | Jul 23 01:26 |
| matey | the gnu.fools coup was in april | Jul 23 01:26 |
| matey | but still | Jul 23 01:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | yeah | Jul 23 01:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I tried not to give then attention | Jul 23 01:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they had some site | Jul 23 01:27 |
| matey | and you treated it as a non-story | Jul 23 01:27 |
| matey | right | Jul 23 01:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I never named it, even in videos | Jul 23 01:27 |
| matey | and i said you were downplaying the coup, which you were | Jul 23 01:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so debian.coimmunity is going away | Jul 23 01:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | unless an appeal gets files | Jul 23 01:27 |
| matey | it was a thatcher-like move really | Jul 23 01:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *filed | Jul 23 01:27 |
| phanes | what happened with debian.community? | Jul 23 01:27 |
| phanes | that ties into my pocock inquiry | Jul 23 01:28 |
| matey | right after ibm was ruled against | Jul 23 01:28 |
| matey | he killed the mailing list archive | Jul 23 01:28 |
| matey | its been down ever since | Jul 23 01:28 |
| matey | not the same day | Jul 23 01:28 |
| matey | about a week or maybe week and a half after declaring victory in ibm slapp | Jul 23 01:28 |
| matey | the list still worked shortly after the archive went down | Jul 23 01:28 |
| matey | and afaik hes never mentioned what happened | Jul 23 01:29 |
| *schestowitz[TR2] retires for the night | Jul 23 01:29 | |
| matey | pocock has (most likely) given up his crusade, for better or worse | Jul 23 01:29 |
| matey | imo its a mixed bag | Jul 23 01:29 |
| phanes | he said "unless an appeal gets filed" | Jul 23 01:29 |
| phanes | that implies it wasn't his voluntary choice | Jul 23 01:29 |
| matey | what wasnt a voluntary choice | Jul 23 01:30 |
| matey | taking down the mailling list? | Jul 23 01:30 |
| phanes | schestowitz[TR2]so debian.coimmunity is going away | Jul 23 01:30 |
| phanes | schestowitz[TR2]unless an appeal gets files | Jul 23 01:30 |
| matey | oh | Jul 23 01:30 |
| matey | and hes not allowed to say who forced it? | Jul 23 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | https://zona.media/translate/2022/07/22/tweet | Jul 23 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Charged in 40 minutes. Russia's chief investigator orders ’immediate‘ prosecution of a politician from Siberia over a single anti‑war tweet | Jul 23 01:31 | |
| matey | i have 3 guesses | Jul 23 01:31 |
| matey | more now | Jul 23 01:32 |
| matey | honestly im not sure i believe this | Jul 23 01:32 |
| matey | pocock HAS given some useful information | Jul 23 01:33 |
| matey | hes also been pretty shit about transparency (even under the circumstances) | Jul 23 01:33 |
| matey | " | Jul 23 01:33 |
| matey | mixed bag" is what i really mean | Jul 23 01:33 |
| matey | but maybe an understatement | Jul 23 01:33 |
| phanes | yeah ive talked to him a few times trying to help the guy and he's even harder to help than roy | Jul 23 01:34 |
| matey | roy doesnt want to be helped | Jul 23 01:34 |
| matey | and pocock is a real mystery to m | Jul 23 01:35 |
| matey | though the easiest way to solve pocock is to be cynical | Jul 23 01:35 |
| matey | i want to be kinder than that fwiw | Jul 23 01:35 |
| matey | id like a better explanation | Jul 23 01:35 |
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| matey | april 5 is the first time crystalmath mentioned stallmansupport i think | Jul 23 01:42 |
| matey | ROFL | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | such a gem | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | CrystalMath https://stallmansupport.org/renata-avila-trying-to-understand-the-lynching-of-stallman.html Apr 05 22:13 | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | schestowitz oh Apr 05 22:13 | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | schestowitz added as comment Apr 05 22:23 | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | schestowitz we try not to draw too much attention to this topic anymore Apr 05 22:23 | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | schestowitz as that would inflame IBM Apr 05 22:23 | Jul 23 01:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | Renata Avila: Trying to Understand the Lynching of Stallman | Stallman Support | Jul 23 01:45 | |
| matey | schestowitz they already used Fedora on Friday Apr 05 22:23 | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | now the point is | Jul 23 01:45 |
| matey | on apr 5 someone tried to bring the stallmansupport website to roys attention | Jul 23 01:46 |
| matey | "we fight too" NO YOU DONT | Jul 23 01:46 |
| matey | he dismissed it along bogus (arbitrary, out of his arse) lines | Jul 23 01:46 |
| matey | on apr 5 | Jul 23 01:46 |
| matey | but now when someone posts a new article to it he mirrors it | Jul 23 01:46 |
| matey | theres always an excuse, this wont be any different | Jul 23 01:47 |
| matey | but i went through about 3 bullshit meters until i calibrated them (and put the fire out) | Jul 23 01:47 |
| phanes | matey: there's an active effort to suppress the pro-stallman letter because it got twice as many sigs in less time | Jul 23 01:47 |
| phanes | so | Jul 23 01:47 |
| matey | thats not what this is | Jul 23 01:47 |
| phanes | not what i mean | Jul 23 01:47 |
| matey | imo the point is to suppress all supporters | Jul 23 01:47 |
| phanes | he may be trying to avoid an avalanche of being targeted over it if he openly supports it | Jul 23 01:47 |
| matey | youre at the defending roy stage of this | Jul 23 01:48 |
| matey | i welcome you to it, i was there once | Jul 23 01:48 |
| matey | not fair me to let others do what i did | Jul 23 01:48 |
| matey | um, non-english | Jul 23 01:48 |
| matey | not fair of me to not let others do what i did | Jul 23 01:48 |
| matey | i had some real wtf moments and just dismissed them as head scratchers | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | for YEARS | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | so | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | anyway, this is a recurring theme | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | with the stallman support website | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | with systemd | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | with bsd as a solution to systemd | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | with the coup | Jul 23 01:49 |
| matey | (now occupation) | Jul 23 01:50 |
| matey | you said you play the long game | Jul 23 01:50 |
| matey | ive spent close to a decade making some points, but stopped when what was saying was becoming obvious to other people | Jul 23 01:50 |
| matey | sometimes you have to leave the arena before people can start making the same points you were making | Jul 23 01:51 |
| matey | id rather not be vindicated though | Jul 23 01:51 |
| matey | id rather be wrong | Jul 23 01:51 |
| matey | so its unfortunate if im not | Jul 23 01:51 |
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| phanes | you also have to bear in mind who is hosting the network. he's gotta stay inside his box or he could compromise his whole effort. | Jul 23 01:53 |
| matey | like i said | Jul 23 01:54 |
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| matey | but the big picture of course is whats happening to free software | Jul 23 01:55 |
| matey | and fuckers rewriting history is a big part of it | Jul 23 01:55 |
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| matey | torvalds himself attacked free software | Jul 23 01:55 |
| matey | as "hate" | Jul 23 01:55 |
| matey | they attacked stallman | Jul 23 01:55 |
| matey | now they marginalise his followers by blaming then for "hero worship" | Jul 23 01:55 |
| matey | standing up against history rewriting, isnt "hero worship" | Jul 23 01:56 |
| matey | its integrity | Jul 23 01:56 |
| matey | they pushed him out of lieplanet | Jul 23 01:56 |
| matey | then they made a separate but equal lieplanet just for stallman | Jul 23 01:56 |
| matey | that was a fucking farce | Jul 23 01:56 |
| matey | everyone was complaining about it, they simply waved it away | Jul 23 01:56 |
| matey | lieplanet is a trojan horse | Jul 23 01:57 |
| matey | they literally control the policy for all public fsf events | Jul 23 01:57 |
| matey | not just the conference | Jul 23 01:57 |
| matey | its not a coup anymore, its an occupation | Jul 23 01:58 |
| matey | you can call it a coup for old times sake | Jul 23 01:58 |
| matey | its just less accurate at this point | Jul 23 01:58 |
| matey | if you look at fsf policy | Jul 23 01:58 |
| matey | fsf policy changes | Jul 23 01:58 |
| matey | the coup never left | Jul 23 01:58 |
| matey | occupations look different than invasions | Jul 23 01:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▇▄▆▅▄▅▅▅▇▆▆▅▅▆▆▄▅▆▇▄▄▅▆▅▁▃▄▅▃▄▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.81 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 7.80▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 23 01:59 |
| matey | if you bring the troops home, but enough stay to occupy | Jul 23 01:59 |
| matey | its not oever | Jul 23 01:59 |
| matey | its ongoing | Jul 23 01:59 |
| matey | lieplanet doesnt have only a coc | Jul 23 01:59 |
| matey | they have a coc OATH | Jul 23 01:59 |
| matey | in january, the fsf implemented a similar oath to the board itself | Jul 23 02:00 |
| matey | and deputised the board as a cheerleading squad | Jul 23 02:00 |
| matey | https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HappinessIsMandatory | Jul 23 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Happiness Is Mandatory - TV Tropes | Jul 23 02:00 | |
| matey | dont bully corporations | Jul 23 02:01 |
| matey | valid criticism is bullying | Jul 23 02:01 |
| matey | coporations are people, and real people are people, but corporations are more people than others | Jul 23 02:01 |
| matey | the linux foundation handles instances of criticism of a corporation | Jul 23 02:02 |
| matey | they treat statements about corporations just like statements about people, coc-style | Jul 23 02:02 |
| matey | as the occupation moves forward, the fsf becomes more and more like everything it once stood against | Jul 23 02:02 |
| matey | this. is an ex. parrot. | Jul 23 02:02 |
| matey | and techrights has spent the past 500 days or saying | Jul 23 02:03 |
| matey | NAW, EES JUST RESTING! | Jul 23 02:03 |
| matey | imo if techrights cant say whats actually going on | Jul 23 02:03 |
| matey | then someone else can, and should | Jul 23 02:04 |
| matey | they spent 10 years downplaying systemd | Jul 23 02:04 |
| matey | at least a year downplaying what happened at the fsf | Jul 23 02:04 |
| matey | if we are going to bullshit, why not let the msm do the work | Jul 23 02:05 |
| matey | slight reforms of msm might as well be msm | Jul 23 02:05 |
| matey | theres no evidence of a real "need" to be so careful | Jul 23 02:05 |
| matey | its fence-riding | Jul 23 02:05 |
| matey | lets not put off readers with truth | Jul 23 02:05 |
| matey | we can gradually introduce them to it | Jul 23 02:06 |
| matey | and in 10 years when its all painfully obvious anyway | Jul 23 02:06 |
| matey | we can pretend we didnt spend a decade downplaying the issue | Jul 23 02:06 |
| matey | #wefighttoo | Jul 23 02:06 |
| matey | meanwhile roy constantly brags about how independent and self-hosted tr is | Jul 23 02:08 |
| matey | then he brags about transparency | Jul 23 02:08 |
| matey | okay, so transparency + independence + not downplaying issues | Jul 23 02:08 |
| matey | at least one of those is a lie | Jul 23 02:08 |
| matey | maybe all three | Jul 23 02:08 |
| matey | maybe theyre just three levers moved around constantly, which when manipulated just so, provide a sort of cloaking device | Jul 23 02:09 |
| matey | or its like the ink a squid uses to get away | Jul 23 02:10 |
| matey | you know whats at the centre of it, really? | Jul 23 02:10 |
| matey | nothing. lots and lots of nothing. | Jul 23 02:10 |
| matey | like the box that hirosan brings down in wheel of fish | Jul 23 02:10 |
| matey | for nothing, its a lot | Jul 23 02:11 |
| matey | but for a lot, its nothing. | Jul 23 02:11 |
| matey | a bazillion gajillion plus negative bazillion gajillion = 0 | Jul 23 02:12 |
| matey | MINUS the time it takes to figure out youve been had | Jul 23 02:13 |
| matey | theres an old joke, im sure youve seen it | Jul 23 02:14 |
| matey | you attach a string to money with a clip then you put it on the ground | Jul 23 02:15 |
| matey | today its been turned into a meme about jews but most of its history is innocent, so you can decide how important that is | Jul 23 02:15 |
| matey | its not the swastikas fault nazis are idiots either | Jul 23 02:15 |
| matey | most of the laws banning it are being adjusted to compensate for legitimate use. i never supported the ban | Jul 23 02:16 |
| matey | but the thing is, its not money. | Jul 23 02:16 |
| matey | it has no value. | Jul 23 02:16 |
| matey | its just bait. | Jul 23 02:16 |
| matey | you chase after it, and thats why its funny | Jul 23 02:17 |
| matey | in some contexts, things which appear valuable are just there to draw you in | Jul 23 02:17 |
| matey | and thats the entire point of them | Jul 23 02:17 |
| matey | and we all know it, but some instances are very convincing | Jul 23 02:18 |
| matey | so we start to assume they mean something | Jul 23 02:18 |
| matey | sometimes they dont | Jul 23 02:18 |
| matey | but if you ever spot the string-- theres your proof | Jul 23 02:19 |
| matey | roy says its not a string "there was a gust of wind that blew it along the ground" | Jul 23 02:21 |
| matey | its like trying to argue with a guy running a carnival challenge | Jul 23 02:22 |
| matey | ive seen the string. but i just say watch for it | Jul 23 02:24 |
| matey | proving its there is impossible. take a picture: could be doctored | Jul 23 02:25 |
| matey | get a witness: could have alterior motives | Jul 23 02:25 |
| matey | also, there are four lights | Jul 23 02:26 |
| matey | but at one point even started to see a fifth one | Jul 23 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/23/the-seamonkey-internet-suite-is-still-developed-is-it-right-for-you/ | Jul 23 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | The SeaMonkey Internet Suite is still developed. Is it right for you? – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 23 02:34 | |
| DaemonFC | I compared running Element for Matrix with ChatZilla for IRC. | Jul 23 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | They're two different worlds, of course. | Jul 23 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Matrix.org banned me four times in the middle of the night, and with no explanation. They didn’t tell me why. It didn’t even say I was banned or who did it. Just BAM and my account “didn’t exist” on the server anymore. I’ve watched their “moderators” at work. They designed the protocol to just say “people log out” and “won’t be active anymore” when it happens. No hint that they were kicked, banned, anything. Being blac | Jul 23 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | k-bagged anonymously is baked into the software." | Jul 23 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Being taken out back and knifed caused a major upheaval for me. While I eventually created an account they haven’t banned, yet, I don’t trust Matrix.org to handle my chats anymore. | Jul 23 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Especially not bridging them into IRC servers that also have their own moderation and policies. I only use IRC clients to handle IRC now so there is no middleman that can censor me and cause me to lose everything, even on other networks. | Jul 23 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Many people are fleeing Matrix.org and causing the protocol to fragment, as servers that supposedly “decentralize and federate” mutually ban each other and the whole thing falls apart into an incoherent mess where you need to run multiple tabs of Element, each one consuming hundreds and hundreds of MB of RAM, to deal with the servers warring against each other. It’s completely stupid. Someone told me that Matrix.org is just another w | Jul 23 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | ay to say “Reddit”, but it’s much worse." | Jul 23 02:36 |
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| DaemonFC | DaemonFCtechrights-newsDaniel Stenberg still does not seem to get it; curl helps Microsoft entrap many users and developers and just because Microsoft keeps ‘bribing’ him in all sorts of ways (several recent examples are shown above — all from his blog) doesn’t mean it’s safe to stay there http://techrights.org/2022/07/22/github-network-effect-curl/ | Jul 23 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | DaemonFCDon't the SJWs say that the word "crazy" is unacceptable and offensive? | Jul 23 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Stay in Our Proprietary Prison (GitHub) and Attract Other People to This Prison, We’ll Give You ‘Gifts’ | Techrights | Jul 23 03:02 | |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: What do you think about Microsoft paying "journalists" to call people "crazy"? | Jul 23 03:02 |
| MinceR | maybe it's like dehomag and "master" | Jul 23 03:04 |
| MinceR | the special people are allowed to use the word | Jul 23 03:04 |
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| DaemonFC | I use wget, not curl. | Jul 23 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | In most cases, wget works fine. | Jul 23 03:14 |
| phanes | DaemonFC: do you have a link about this? ("Microsoft paying "journalists" to call people "crazy" | Jul 23 03:29 |
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| DaemonFC | He says nice things about GitHub on his blog and calls anyone who has issues with GitHub "crazy" and then he gets a shipment of "swag" and a check payable in money from Microsoft. | Jul 23 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | "Say nice things about us and bad things about the FOSS community and you get money and swag!" | Jul 23 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, it still leaves curl vulnerable to being whacked, like YouTube-DL, and the guy is such a corrupt idiot that he plays it off. | Jul 23 03:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Continues calling people "crazy" if they don't like GitHub. | Jul 23 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | If something is hosted on GitHub, that's a loss for everyone waiting to happen. | Jul 23 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | Only someone who is crazy would use it. | Jul 23 03:36 |
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| AdmFubar | m$ we break printing https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-that-new-windows-updates-may-break-printing/ | Jul 23 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft warns that new Windows updates may break printing | Jul 23 04:07 | |
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| matey | 30 seconds into looking into if debian.community will be censored or not | Jul 23 04:26 |
| matey | this appears to be all about the domain name | Jul 23 04:26 |
| matey | personally i think debian is sleazy as fuck for this | Jul 23 04:26 |
| matey | but i have to note that what i read in here earlier really made it sound like the website is going offline | Jul 23 04:27 |
| matey | which it wasnt at all clear about | Jul 23 04:27 |
| matey | and there are actually plans to keep it online (but not at the same domain) | Jul 23 04:27 |
| matey | so either the information i just read on the debian.community website is out of date, or the information i read here is half-arsed | Jul 23 04:27 |
| matey | of course its irc, and if i demanded my money back it could be handed to me-- for free | Jul 23 04:28 |
| matey | still, as part of a pattern of nonsense | Jul 23 04:28 |
| matey | its par for the course | Jul 23 04:28 |
| matey | https://debian.community/what-is-the-price-of-a-debian-domain-name/ | Jul 23 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debian.community | What is the price of a Debian domain name? | Jul 23 04:29 | |
| matey | The volunteers are preparing to execute contingency plans to preserve the site on a new domain. | Jul 23 04:30 |
| matey | " Jul 22, 2022 " | Jul 23 04:30 |
| matey | my opinion is that the facts are not as sensational as... whatever. | Jul 23 04:30 |
| matey | of course i think sometimes pocock may do that too | Jul 23 04:30 |
| matey | if so, theyre really doing him a favour by hitting him with these lawsuits | Jul 23 04:30 |
| matey | because if its a narrative, theyre adding some weight to it | Jul 23 04:31 |
| matey | "Approximately thirty Debian Developers resigned while legal action was in process. Others complain about losing motivation." | Jul 23 04:31 |
| matey | deadian | Jul 23 04:32 |
| matey | theyve done to debian what they did to the fsf | Jul 23 04:32 |
| matey | its ridiculous | Jul 23 04:32 |
| matey | more than 2 years ago i told roy "mention the war" | Jul 23 04:32 |
| matey | he mentions it | Jul 23 04:32 |
| matey | i should have said "cover it properly" | Jul 23 04:32 |
| matey | "More people have become aware of their right to register domain names including the name debian and use them within the limited framework of fair use. Shutting them down will be an expensive game of whack-a-mole." | Jul 23 04:33 |
| matey | criticism and review do fall under fair use (for copyright) | Jul 23 04:33 |
| matey | im no expert on trademarks. im not even a copyright expert, but i know less about trademarks | Jul 23 04:33 |
| matey | i will give them this, debian its a better brand than "we are a bunch of dicks" | Jul 23 04:34 |
| matey | or at least, it used to be. | Jul 23 04:34 |
| matey | Many people in Kosovo have boycotted DebConf. We previously had three women from Kosovo in Google Summer of Code and three more women from the region in Outreachy. | Jul 23 04:35 |
| matey | i never read that on techrights | Jul 23 04:35 |
| matey | more debian people signed the anti-stallman letter than any other group | Jul 23 04:35 |
| matey | what exactly does debian have to do to get roys attention | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | according to pocock they basically kill people | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | theyre that abusive | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | maybe roy doesnt care, i dont know | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | i can only guess why he thinks thats not relevant to the free software movement | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | the epo is like this | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | debian is like the epo | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | roy covers a lot of one and a little of the other | Jul 23 04:36 |
| matey | but the comparison? he exposes one and covers for the other one. | Jul 23 04:37 |
| matey | how very EFF-like. | Jul 23 04:37 |
| matey | epo critic, debian shill | Jul 23 04:37 |
| matey | maybe if debian was TWICE as bad as the epo, "we" would consider giving a shit | Jul 23 04:37 |
| matey | im not sure it isnt. but unlike roy-- i dont know enough about the epo to make the comparison. good for him. | Jul 23 04:38 |
| matey | debian developers should unionise | Jul 23 04:38 |
| matey | i know, theyre volunteers | Jul 23 04:38 |
| matey | but theyre being used like slaves | Jul 23 04:39 |
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| matey | riseup participated in the coup, demonstrating something about the fake left that was said nearly 100 years ago | Jul 23 04:39 |
| matey | fuck riseup | Jul 23 04:40 |
| matey | there needs to be a REAL volunteer union | Jul 23 04:40 |
| matey | slaves had countless uprisings against masters | Jul 23 04:40 |
| matey | the fact that they were unpaid and lacked constitutional rights didnt stop them | Jul 23 04:41 |
| matey | it shouldnt stop debian developers either | Jul 23 04:41 |
| matey | of course, many debian developers, and some pretend journalists too | Jul 23 04:41 |
| matey | are what malcolm x called | Jul 23 04:41 |
| matey | ""house negroes" | Jul 23 04:41 |
| matey | they have nicer lives, some even eat meals with the master | Jul 23 04:41 |
| matey | they sleep in the masters house | Jul 23 04:42 |
| matey | malcolm x clarified-- hes not a "house negro"-- hes a field negro | Jul 23 04:42 |
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| matey | they have the same privileges as the people picking cotton | Jul 23 04:42 |
| matey | because they dont sell out their brothers for a little extra comfort | Jul 23 04:42 |
| matey | when the debian field workers stand up for themselves (as a group) | Jul 23 04:43 |
| matey | the debian house workers will flee in shame | Jul 23 04:44 |
| matey | all thats a big if, of course | Jul 23 04:44 |
| matey | riseup is a fraud, a crock of shit | Jul 23 04:44 |
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| matey | it should be called lickboots | Jul 23 04:44 |
| matey | riseup are bootlickers | Jul 23 04:44 |
| matey | house negroes | Jul 23 04:44 |
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| matey | managers in field worker clothing | Jul 23 04:45 |
| matey | frauds | Jul 23 04:45 |
| matey | the people who know whats really going on know how full of shit they are | Jul 23 04:45 |
| matey | i was invited years ago | Jul 23 04:45 |
| matey | i left years ago | Jul 23 04:46 |
| matey | like a decade ago | Jul 23 04:46 |
| matey | what a shame to see the state its in | Jul 23 04:46 |
| matey | fake left | Jul 23 04:46 |
| matey | time for the real left | Jul 23 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/23/are-we-finally-post-covid-thanks-to-paxlovid/ | Jul 23 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Are we finally post-COVID thanks to Paxlovid? – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 23 04:46 | |
| matey | when the real left shows up | Jul 23 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | "In fact, I was recently banned from a NSFW room on a Discord server, of all places, for saying that male circumcision was basically a waste of money, and had no merit. The debate devolved into a free-for-all where I was slandered, without evidence, as an “anti-vaxxer” (nope), and an AIDS denier (hardly….I’m a gay man and I know all too well what people are going through with HIV,... | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | ...knowing at... | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | ...least 8 people with it, although not having it myself), and all sorts of other things. | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | I brought up the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation experimenting on Black African people with it, by (lying and) promising that it would make them “totally immune”. 12 million “snip and releases” later…. (They make it sound like they’re running a trap-neuter-return program for feral cats. Don’t you love the racism?) HIV/AIDS is still one of the major problems plaguing the continent. | Jul 23 04:47 |
| matey | all these social justice frauds will be like the television preachers if jesus actually came back | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | There are no conclusive studies showing that male circumcision lowers the risk of HIV/AIDS. What lowers the risk of HIV/AIDS and where the money should be spent, are preventive measures such as condoms and PrEP medication, which work. | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | The racist Gates Foundation and racists in the US federal government aren’t the only ones to spout this HIV/AIDS prevention bullshit as it pertains to Male Genital Mutilation. My mom told me it lowered the risk of HIV many years ago when I complained that I was circumcised as an infant without my consent. That couldn’t possibly be why they did it. They had only isolated the virus that... | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | ...causes... | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | ...AIDS 15 months before I was born in 1984. People had little idea what spread it or what might protect against or prevent it. Paranoia was rampant. There wasn’t even a drug that people who had it could take. The first one wouldn’t be out for another three years. You can’t tell me that anyone knew anything about what circumcision may or may not do in 1984 as it pertains to HIV/AIDS.... | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | ...Don’t... | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | ...even try! | Jul 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | The simple truth about circumcision was that religious fundamentalists wanted to ruin your sex life and the whole idea was basically thought up by the guy who invented the lamest breakfast cereal ever, Corn Flakes. John Harvey Kellogg." | Jul 23 04:47 |
| matey | "oh, uh, hey look what weve been doing!" | Jul 23 04:47 |
| matey | "We want to ask the question: was it worth the cost to Debian? The same material will continue to be published on other domains and web sites anyway. | Jul 23 04:48 |
| matey | "doesnt sound like pocock intends to take this lying down | Jul 23 04:49 |
| matey | of course i dont know, what i said about him earlier is true | Jul 23 04:49 |
| matey | heres the update ive been waiting for | Jul 23 04:49 |
| matey | Frans Pop Debian Day suicide, Ubuntu, Google and the DEP-5 machine-readable copyright file | Jul 23 04:50 |
| matey | Volunteers have scoured the debian-private (leaked) gossip network looking for further evidence about the Frans Pop "Debian Day" suicide. | Jul 23 04:50 |
| matey | Yet the evidence is not there. It is in broad daylight on the debian-project mailing list. | Jul 23 04:50 |
| matey | Saturday, 21 August 2010 Colin Watson (Ubuntu) sends a message on debian-private trying to undermine the significance of the phrase his main concern was his work for Debian. Ubuntu is trying to avoid responsibility for the death. | Jul 23 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure how circumcision ruins your sex life. | Jul 23 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone I know who is circumcised still really likes to have sex. | Jul 23 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | People were even stranger back then, I suppose. | Jul 23 04:52 |
| matey | Colin Watson <- part of the coup too | Jul 23 04:53 |
| matey | and roy says ubuntu is microsoft | Jul 23 04:53 |
| matey | he says systemd is microsoft (though he doesnt say why this is news) | Jul 23 04:53 |
| matey | "its more obvious now" (he never said why) | Jul 23 04:53 |
| matey | i guess its so obvious, one would just know | Jul 23 04:54 |
| matey | you Just Know | Jul 23 04:54 |
| matey | Friday, 13 August 2010 Lars Wirzenius announces he is going to join forces with Colin Watson (Ubuntu) and together they will push people to create machine-readable copyright files (DEP-5). | Jul 23 04:54 |
| matey | Lars Wirzeniu <- also coup | Jul 23 04:54 |
| matey | Sunday, 15 August 2010 Frans Pop sends his resignation email. In hindsight, it was a suicide note. | Jul 23 04:55 |
| matey | i know some people simply commit suicide. | Jul 23 04:55 |
| matey | it happens. it doesnt always means theres a guilty party | Jul 23 04:55 |
| matey | it also happens due to abuse | Jul 23 04:55 |
| matey | the same people who used the coc to silence stallman | Jul 23 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | It can happen due to any number of reasons. | Jul 23 04:56 |
| matey | may have violated it enough to push someone to suicide | Jul 23 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | Having had ample time to think about and consider it, I've come up with a lot. | Jul 23 04:56 |
| matey | things that give corporations more power than volunteers are in and of themselves abuse | Jul 23 04:56 |
| matey | but the abuse doesnt stop there | Jul 23 04:56 |
| matey | and these people are the worst type of hypocrite | Jul 23 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | Social isolation / Social exclusion / Rejection by loved ones / Relationship failure / terminal illness / boredom / despair | Jul 23 04:56 |
| matey | policing microaggressions while they push people off proverbial cliffs | Jul 23 04:56 |
| matey | debian isnt a gnu/linux distro | Jul 23 04:57 |
| matey | debian is digitised hypocristy | Jul 23 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, there's a lot of reasons why people do it. | Jul 23 04:57 |
| matey | fucking keyboard | Jul 23 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them watch their investment accounts get wiped out in a stock market crash. | Jul 23 04:57 |
| matey | but whatever | Jul 23 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | They don't even spend much time considering it. | Jul 23 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | How they still have a home and a family and a car and a job, and they can recover someday. | Jul 23 04:57 |
| matey | "Remarkably, Colin Watson from Ubuntu was one of the people who went to Frans' funeral. Watson had tried to diminish suggestions that Debian was a factor in the suicide. We attach the funeral report below. Perhaps he was scouting for any people or information that may tarnish Ubuntu or connect them to the pressure on Frans Pop. | Jul 23 04:58 |
| matey | " | Jul 23 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | Ultimately, suicidal people can't tell the difference between what they're going through now, and what could happen if they spend some time trying to solve their problem. | Jul 23 04:58 |
| matey | i appreciate that there may be another side to the story | Jul 23 04:58 |
| matey | there often is | Jul 23 04:58 |
| matey | but techrights is afraid of this one | Jul 23 04:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▅▃▄▅▆▅▄▄▅▅▅▅▅▆▆▅▅▂▄▄▅▄▅▆▆▁▂▃▄▅▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 24.70 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁█▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 6.95▕ swarm size (avg): 279.81 ⟲ | Jul 23 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | The terminally ill don't see how they could use the time they have left, and dying now just sort of speeds things along. They spent their whole life trying not to die. | Jul 23 04:59 |
| matey | they could actually publish a rebuttal, if there is one. | Jul 23 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then they get told they might die next year. | Jul 23 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | Suddenly they have to die now! | Jul 23 04:59 |
| matey | the abuse at debian continues | Jul 23 04:59 |
| matey | or maybe what i personally saw of it was all there is | Jul 23 04:59 |
| matey | and pocock is nuts | Jul 23 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | The thought may not even occur to them that the doctor may be wrong, or the lab may have sent the doctor someone else's lab results, or fucked up theirs. | Jul 23 04:59 |
| matey | i want to know why techrights doesnt think this is important | Jul 23 05:00 |
| matey | but then, hey | Jul 23 05:00 |
| matey | i already know the score with that | Jul 23 05:00 |
| matey | another day, another excuse | Jul 23 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | There's a reason why the doctors usually run HIV tests 2-3 times before they tell someone they're certain they have HIV. | Jul 23 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Labs screw up.....all the time. | Jul 23 05:00 |
| matey | debians p.r. office, right here | Jul 23 05:00 |
| matey | A REUSE-compliant project makes the jobs of legal experts and compliance officers much easier. | Jul 23 05:01 |
| matey | What Lars, Colin, Ubuntu and FSFE are telling us is that we have to complete 20,000 hours of unpaid work to make life easier for some highly paid lawyers in large tech companies. | Jul 23 05:01 |
| matey | free software has turned into slave labour | Jul 23 05:02 |
| matey | open source is what transformed it into that | Jul 23 05:02 |
| matey | esr is a genius alright | Jul 23 05:02 |
| matey | hes got to be the most dumbfuck genius on the planet | Jul 23 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/jesse-white-extending-drivers-license-id-deadline-until-december/ar-AAZSnRl?li=BBnbfcL | Jul 23 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MSN | Jul 23 05:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Last time he said he was only extending it through August and it would absolutely be the last time. | Jul 23 05:02 |
| matey | you have to wonder wtf is in perens head | Jul 23 05:02 |
| matey | to treat this with such kid gloves | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | just say pocock is nuts | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | if hes nuts, the rest of this is easier | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | of course, if hes not | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | then you just did it to stallman again | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | these days, pocock does more to fight for freedom than stallman does | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | you read that correctly. | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | these days, pocock does more to fight for freedom than stallman does. | Jul 23 05:03 |
| matey | and compared to pocock-- roy does | Jul 23 05:04 |
| matey | NOTHING. | Jul 23 05:04 |
| matey | like the fsf | Jul 23 05:04 |
| matey | BUT! theres a caveat with that comparison. | Jul 23 05:04 |
| matey | pocock may still be fake / wrong. | Jul 23 05:04 |
| matey | and the comparison is conditional on him not being full of shit | Jul 23 05:04 |
| matey | so good luck with that one roy. | Jul 23 05:04 |
| matey | https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2010/01/msg00002.html | Jul 23 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Draft GR: Simplification of license and copyright requirements forthe Debian packages. | Jul 23 05:06 | |
| matey | debian has been exploiting volunteers to offload costs for a decade | Jul 23 05:06 |
| matey | deb-sploitation | Jul 23 05:06 |
| matey | im ashamed to have ever supported them | Jul 23 05:07 |
| matey | debian isnt free software | Jul 23 05:07 |
| matey | its slave software | Jul 23 05:07 |
| matey | More significantly, some people feared that this outbreak of bureaucracy would deter new people from joining the Debian community. Debian would descend from a community of experts to a community of mediocre form-fillers. https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2010/01/msg00002.html | Jul 23 05:08 |
| matey | roy clearly isnt convinced this is important | Jul 23 05:08 |
| matey | maybe pocock is a fraud | Jul 23 05:08 |
| matey | great. so expose him. | Jul 23 05:08 |
| matey | or maybe hes not. great. so explain why this stuff isnt important. | Jul 23 05:09 |
| matey | go ahead. | Jul 23 05:09 |
| matey | why is it not okay for the epo to do it | Jul 23 05:09 |
| matey | but debian gets a pass | Jul 23 05:09 |
| matey | its increasingly clear that the way people are treated at the epo | Jul 23 05:09 |
| matey | at least inspires how people have been treated at debian for more than a decade | Jul 23 05:09 |
| matey | i guess roys too smart to mix these up | Jul 23 05:09 |
| matey | great! | Jul 23 05:10 |
| matey | help us understand. | Jul 23 05:10 |
| matey | but i guess its more important if the epo does it | Jul 23 05:10 |
| matey | after all-- as roy said | Jul 23 05:10 |
| matey | with the epo, tr can BREAK STORIES | Jul 23 05:10 |
| matey | i dont think thats the only important thing here | Jul 23 05:10 |
| matey | it certainly shouldnt be. | Jul 23 05:10 |
| matey | Subject: Re: Death of Frans Pop - funeral report | Jul 23 05:12 |
| matey | Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:45:43 +0100 | Jul 23 05:12 |
| matey | From: Steve McIntyre | Jul 23 05:12 |
| matey | To: debian-private@lists.debian.orgSteve McIntyre <- coup | Jul 23 05:12 |
| matey | "Ironically, one of the proponents of CUT, Asheesh Laroia, who also uses the alias Paul Proteus" | Jul 23 05:13 |
| matey | ive seen that name somewhere too | Jul 23 05:13 |
| matey | Asheesh Laroia <- coup https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ | Jul 23 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wwahammy.com | Is LibrePlanet Safe? | Jul 23 05:14 | |
| matey | theres overlap between the stallman cancellers and the debian slavedrivers | Jul 23 05:15 |
| matey | but "we move on" | Jul 23 05:15 |
| matey | debian kills | Jul 23 05:15 |
| matey | stallman emails | Jul 23 05:15 |
| matey | debian lies, people die | Jul 23 05:15 |
| matey | stallman tells the truth, he gets tortured | Jul 23 05:15 |
| matey | techrights says "we move on" | Jul 23 05:16 |
| matey | someday im going to get the idea that techrights IS WITH the fucking coup | Jul 23 05:16 |
| matey | colin watson (signed) downplays what debian did | Jul 23 05:16 |
| matey | techrights downplays what colin watson did | Jul 23 05:16 |
| matey | someone explain this so im wrong, please | Jul 23 05:17 |
| matey | say which part is untrue and why | Jul 23 05:17 |
| matey | id love to know | Jul 23 05:17 |
| matey | maybe name should be "techdies" | Jul 23 05:17 |
| matey | because the longer techrights fights | Jul 23 05:17 |
| matey | the more debian slaves die with no justice | Jul 23 05:18 |
| matey | not even a mention | Jul 23 05:18 |
| matey | not even a mention | Jul 23 05:18 |
| matey | "we move on" | Jul 23 05:18 |
| matey | thats great | Jul 23 05:18 |
| matey | enjoy your retirement in your early 40s | Jul 23 05:18 |
| matey | while you cover for debian treating people exactly like the epo does | Jul 23 05:18 |
| matey | house negro | Jul 23 05:19 |
| matey | who else signed with asheesh | Jul 23 05:19 |
| matey | Deb Nicholson | Jul 23 05:19 |
| matey | Neil McGovern | Jul 23 05:20 |
| matey | Paul R. Tagliamonte <- dpl | Jul 23 05:20 |
| matey | Stefano Zacchiroli <- dpl | Jul 23 05:20 |
| matey | this wasnt the stallman letter | Jul 23 05:20 |
| matey | this was the coups opening act https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ | Jul 23 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wwahammy.com | Is LibrePlanet Safe? | Jul 23 05:20 | |
| matey | all to take down stallman | Jul 23 05:21 |
| matey | they may have killed some other developers first | Jul 23 05:21 |
| matey | theres another name on there, which needs no introduction | Jul 23 05:21 |
| matey | debian is a sweatshop | Jul 23 05:21 |
| matey | debian is a fucking sweatshop | Jul 23 05:21 |
| matey | "we move on" | Jul 23 05:22 |
| matey | fuck perens too, hes a dickless wonder | Jul 23 05:22 |
| matey | im tired of these hypocrites | Jul 23 05:22 |
| matey | perens is a coward | Jul 23 05:22 |
| matey | if he had any integrity he would be calling this shit out | Jul 23 05:23 |
| matey | maybe he signed an nda | Jul 23 05:23 |
| matey | he and stallman should start a club | Jul 23 05:23 |
| matey | "founders who dont say shit because of previous obligations that have turned against them" | Jul 23 05:23 |
| matey | whatever | Jul 23 05:23 |
| matey | they only serve as reverse canaries | Jul 23 05:24 |
| matey | you know, youre supposed to worry when they stop tweeting | Jul 23 05:24 |
| matey | even if theyre not dead | Jul 23 05:25 |
| matey | but i guess "we move on" from that too | Jul 23 05:25 |
| matey | and anything else that isnt a fucking "scoop" | Jul 23 05:25 |
| matey | thats a pretty goddamned lazy way to figure out whats important to say | Jul 23 05:25 |
| matey | but if its not really about journalism | Jul 23 05:26 |
| matey | if its just a contest for pageviews and the image of whatever | Jul 23 05:26 |
| matey | i guess its good enough | Jul 23 05:26 |
| matey | the debian slavekillers also cancelled stallman | Jul 23 05:27 |
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| matey | just saying | Jul 23 05:27 |
| matey | same people | Jul 23 05:27 |
| matey | debian: we turn free software into slave software | Jul 23 05:27 |
| matey | and we dont like people who tell the truth | Jul 23 05:28 |
| matey | please roy, shill for us! | Jul 23 05:28 |
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| matey | "cant, busy writing about some europeans doing the same shit youre doing!" | Jul 23 05:28 |
| matey | "its a SCOOP!" | Jul 23 05:28 |
| matey | alex gravely: not epo | Jul 23 05:29 |
| matey | maybe he is, maybe thats a scoop too | Jul 23 05:29 |
| matey | how does debian always get a pass? and by always i mean | Jul 23 05:29 |
| matey | only the WORST shit they do gets a pass | Jul 23 05:29 |
| britney | ugh matey | Jul 23 05:30 |
| matey | ugh is a good word for it | Jul 23 05:30 |
| matey | i realise you meant something else | Jul 23 05:31 |
| britney | yeah the scrollback is like a mile long because of you | Jul 23 05:32 |
| matey | only like 1% of it is cut and pasted (mostly single lines quoted) | Jul 23 05:33 |
| britney | you certainly know how to write a wall of text | Jul 23 05:33 |
| britney | im not going back to read it all | Jul 23 05:33 |
| matey | one of the hallmarks of a sweatshop (the sort that makes people organise) is an unusual number of deaths | Jul 23 05:33 |
| matey | im not going back to read it all <- i wouldnt dream of anyone doing so | Jul 23 05:34 |
| britney | then why do you do it | Jul 23 05:34 |
| britney | you're worse than DaemonFC's walls of text | Jul 23 05:34 |
| britney | at least he does paragraphs | Jul 23 05:34 |
| matey | im going to be obtuse here-- did you want me to try to add blank lines? | Jul 23 05:34 |
| britney | are you diagnosed as being autistic? | Jul 23 05:35 |
| matey | are you assuming one needs to be autistic to rant about something? | Jul 23 05:35 |
| matey | have you ever seen an american filibuster? | Jul 23 05:35 |
| britney | no but autistic people usually craft giant walls of text | Jul 23 05:35 |
| matey | its only a wall because blank lines are not generally native to irc | Jul 23 05:36 |
| matey | nor are paragraphs in any more | Jul 23 05:36 |
| matey | form | Jul 23 05:36 |
| matey | if i share something from irc with a friend, i add paragraphs or something like it | Jul 23 05:37 |
| britney | ok | Jul 23 05:38 |
| britney | im just going to assume you're autistic | Jul 23 05:38 |
| matey | youre free to do so | Jul 23 05:39 |
| matey | i get along well enough with (some) autistic people | Jul 23 05:40 |
| britney | im autistic | Jul 23 05:40 |
| matey | do i get a pin or something? | Jul 23 05:40 |
| matey | ah, cool | Jul 23 05:40 |
| britney | no | Jul 23 05:40 |
| matey | thats ok, i dont love pins | Jul 23 05:40 |
| britney | lol | Jul 23 05:40 |
| matey | sometimes they look good but theyre physically annoying to wear | Jul 23 05:40 |
| britney | you get my respect | Jul 23 05:40 |
| matey | theres a first time for everything | Jul 23 05:41 |
| britney | autism master race | Jul 23 05:41 |
| matey | i really feel that should have a pin or something | Jul 23 05:41 |
| matey | but as i said, i wouldnt enjoy wearing it | Jul 23 05:41 |
| britney | lol | Jul 23 05:41 |
| matey | they sometimes put wreaths over winners of olympic-style competitions | Jul 23 05:42 |
| matey | the asan logo reminds me of a wreath... | Jul 23 05:42 |
| phanes | why are so many people on irc autistic lol | Jul 23 05:42 |
| phanes | i never understood that | Jul 23 05:43 |
| matey | irc was developed so autistic people could talk to each other | Jul 23 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.thedailybeast.com/infamous-cult-leader-gazi-kodzo-arrested-after-dead-body-found-in-home | Jul 23 05:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Gazi Kodzo, Infamous ‘Cult’ Leader, Arrested After Dead Body Found in Home | Jul 23 05:43 | |
| phanes | wasn't it a demilitarized protocol | Jul 23 05:43 |
| phanes | id have to check the history there | Jul 23 05:43 |
| matey | if so im even more scared that these people have access to nuclear weapons | Jul 23 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | The black dude from those "white people owe us reparations" videos was arrested for aggravated sodomy, two counts of conspiracy to commit a felony, two counts of false imprisonment, two counts of kidnapping, two counts of aggravated assault, and two counts of criminal street gang activity after police found a dead body in his house. | Jul 23 05:43 |
| matey | stallman license to be autistic was revoked https://www.mail-archive.com/libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org/msg04760.html | Jul 23 05:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mail-archive.com | Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts? | Jul 23 05:44 | |
| matey | "well take the niggers and the jews but we dont want the irish!"-- blazing saddles | Jul 23 05:45 |
| matey | "well take the transgenders and the two black women but we dont want the aspies!"-- new fsf | Jul 23 05:45 |
| matey | in fairness, theres some overlap between the trans and the autists | Jul 23 05:46 |
| matey | but i think that misses the point | Jul 23 05:46 |
| matey | we dont want the trouble-making aspies" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "we want the ones that fall in line" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "black people are welcome. we dont want the ANGRY black people" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "which angry black people" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "the ones who make trouble" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "why not?" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "they make trouble" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "for whom?" | Jul 23 05:47 |
| matey | "our sponsors" | Jul 23 05:48 |
| matey | "ah, i see" | Jul 23 05:48 |
| matey | "didnt they leave anyway?" | Jul 23 05:48 |
| matey | "yes! we want them back!" | Jul 23 05:48 |
| matey | considering how much time the fsf ran on grants stallman received (or so i heard the other day) | Jul 23 05:48 |
| matey | i wonder if he was the biggest donor ever until around the time he was cancelled | Jul 23 05:49 |
| matey | can a founder be bought out? (like against his will?) | Jul 23 05:49 |
| britney | <matey> in fairness, theres some overlap between the trans and the autists | Jul 23 05:49 |
| britney | yeah 25% of trans people have autism | Jul 23 05:49 |
| britney | I'm autistic and trans | Jul 23 05:49 |
| matey | cool | Jul 23 05:49 |
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| matey | lately ive been on a bit of a kick try to understand some of the finer details of being trans | Jul 23 05:55 |
| matey | not surgery or hrt, but a little bit of-- frankly, everything else | Jul 23 05:56 |
| matey | im just stating this. i dont go around interviewing people about ut | Jul 23 05:56 |
| matey | as i understand it, lots of people do | Jul 23 05:56 |
| matey | "omg! whats blah blah blah like?" | Jul 23 05:56 |
| britney | i've had surgery and i've been on hrt since 2017 | Jul 23 05:57 |
| matey | cool | Jul 23 05:57 |
| matey | i had a hard time understanding the whole idea for many years | Jul 23 05:57 |
| matey | i REALLY DID WANT to understand but i just didnt | Jul 23 05:57 |
| britney | mostly you experience a lot of haters | Jul 23 05:57 |
| matey | so it wasnt hate, but i didnt "get" it | Jul 23 05:58 |
| britney | yeah | Jul 23 05:58 |
| matey | then a friend of mine, fairly close | Jul 23 05:58 |
| matey | who i ALWAYS KNEW AS (and he preferred i know him as) a dude | Jul 23 05:58 |
| matey | came out as trans | Jul 23 05:58 |
| matey | so it reached this point where i was like | Jul 23 05:58 |
| matey | ok, normally i would (through no wish of mine) probably revert to thinking-- something fairly misunderstanding | Jul 23 05:58 |
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| matey | but i would still call him whatever he liked | Jul 23 05:59 |
| matey | of course | Jul 23 05:59 |
| matey | only thats not what happened | Jul 23 05:59 |
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| matey | instead, i realised heres a guy i always knew as a guy | Jul 23 05:59 |
| matey | and despite him telling me what i now know about his assignment at birth | Jul 23 05:59 |
| matey | its just not relevant to me | Jul 23 05:59 |
| matey | it doesnt change my understanding of him | Jul 23 06:00 |
| matey | at all | Jul 23 06:00 |
| matey | this was the first time i "got it" and i was very happy | Jul 23 06:00 |
| matey | and people can say whatever they want about it-- but to me, hes always been / always will be a dude | Jul 23 06:00 |
| matey | btw britney youre the first autist to diagnose me as one, so ill take it as a compliment | Jul 23 06:11 |
| matey | in most instances ill take "one of us!" as a compliment, except when its for recruiting purposes. then it depends. | Jul 23 06:11 |
| britney | :) | Jul 23 06:12 |
| matey | but autists dont usually recruit, so | Jul 23 06:12 |
| britney | we're planning world domination | Jul 23 06:12 |
| matey | i have mixed feelings about this | Jul 23 06:12 |
| britney | part of that is understanding who currently controls the world: reptilians and neanderthals do | Jul 23 06:13 |
| matey | better you than the reptilians at least | Jul 23 06:13 |
| matey | just so we are clear-- youre not joking? | Jul 23 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like Mozilla completely stopped using NNTP Newsgroups in March 2021. | Jul 23 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're on some GULAG Workspace. | Jul 23 06:13 |
| britney | matey, joking about what? | Jul 23 06:13 |
| matey | i withdraw the question | Jul 23 06:14 |
| matey | is this david ickes reptilians or a competing theory? | Jul 23 06:14 |
| britney | david ickes | Jul 23 06:14 |
| britney | https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/ | Jul 23 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org | Cerberus Investigations | Jul 23 06:14 | |
| matey | i wont lie, the neanderthals portion of this is new to me | Jul 23 06:14 |
| britney | DaemonFC, to be fair, only the insane still use NNTP | Jul 23 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | To people who were always using Google Groups, it doesn't look much different. | Jul 23 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | But now GULAG is in control of the whole thing. | Jul 23 06:15 |
| matey | and im not HUGELY familiar with the reptilians part either, except its been called anti-semitic | Jul 23 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | britneyDaemonFC, to be fair, only the insane still use NNTP | Jul 23 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Why? | Jul 23 06:15 |
| matey | (but so was campbell and theres absolutely nothing about campbell that i can think of being anti-semitic) | Jul 23 06:15 |
| britney | matey, the neanderthals are in a hive mind computation cluster (a super computer) | Jul 23 06:15 |
| matey | a super computer cluster | Jul 23 06:16 |
| britney | oh these reptilians are literally reptilians, they aren't an allegory for jews | Jul 23 06:16 |
| matey | thats nice to know | Jul 23 06:16 |
| britney | the reptilians I talk about are evolved dinosaurs from a parallel dimension | Jul 23 06:16 |
| matey | /me tries to imagine how icke could figure this out | Jul 23 06:17 |
| britney | icke's reptilians come from another planet | Jul 23 06:17 |
| matey | his powers of deduction are-- not the typical calibre | Jul 23 06:17 |
| matey | so the relationship between the reptilians and the neaderthals is what | Jul 23 06:18 |
| matey | how do they work together | Jul 23 06:18 |
| britney | enemies | Jul 23 06:18 |
| matey | or are they competing factions | Jul 23 06:18 |
| matey | oka | Jul 23 06:18 |
| matey | are the neanderthals good? probably not if they rule the world | Jul 23 06:18 |
| britney | they both want to run the world and are playing us like a game of chess | Jul 23 06:18 |
| matey | right, yeah thats a dick move on their part | Jul 23 06:19 |
| britney | neanderthals control us remotely using the medulla oblongata, reptilians control us through the media | Jul 23 06:20 |
| matey | i take it they have very different approaches to world domin | Jul 23 06:20 |
| matey | you clearly anticipated my question. or i your answer. or both. | Jul 23 06:20 |
| matey | so the reptilians use the media, thats straightforward enough | Jul 23 06:21 |
| matey | by what mechanism does a supercomputer hivemind control the medulla oblongata | Jul 23 06:21 |
| matey | electromagnetic waves? | Jul 23 06:21 |
| matey | quantum entanglement? unknown? | Jul 23 06:21 |
| britney | quantum entanglement | Jul 23 06:22 |
| matey | (gravity beam?) | Jul 23 06:22 |
| britney | the neanderthals are under ground, in the moho discontinuity | Jul 23 06:22 |
| britney | reptilians mind control people using the moon | Jul 23 06:22 |
| britney | the moon is a hollow space ship | Jul 23 06:23 |
| matey | thats awesome | Jul 23 06:23 |
| matey | wonderous is our great blue ship that sails around the mighty sun, bringing joy to everyone who rides along (except mincer) | Jul 23 06:24 |
| britney | the reptilians are heating the planet because lizards like it warm | Jul 23 06:24 |
| matey | (and most of hungary, and probably swaths of ukraine, any number of people in africa, most of north korea) | Jul 23 06:24 |
| britney | more warm, more insects to eat | Jul 23 06:25 |
| matey | for the reptilians | Jul 23 06:25 |
| britney | they're putting crickets in our food | Jul 23 06:26 |
| matey | is that bad? | Jul 23 06:26 |
| britney | honestly, i don't know | Jul 23 06:26 |
| matey | (its not kosher i can tell you that) | Jul 23 06:26 |
| britney | i want to try some crickets | Jul 23 06:26 |
| matey | (crickets will never be kosher) | Jul 23 06:26 |
| matey | i think stallman tried them once | Jul 23 06:27 |
| britney | like you can get something called "cricket flour" and make brownies, they'd probably taste the same as regular brownies | Jul 23 06:27 |
| matey | oh yeah | Jul 23 06:27 |
| matey | its an important staple in freefall | Jul 23 06:27 |
| matey | because they havent got wheat yet, and theyre terraforming the moon or something | Jul 23 06:28 |
| britney | i'd probably even be brave enough to eat chocolate covered crickets | Jul 23 06:28 |
| matey | freefall.purrsia.com/ | Jul 23 06:28 |
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| matey | ill have to read more about what david icke says | Jul 23 06:31 |
| matey | for a minute i almost got him mixed up with the pyramids guy | Jul 23 06:32 |
| matey | who has a completely different name, whatever it is | Jul 23 06:32 |
| phanes | isn't quantum entanglement just a pick-up line? | Jul 23 06:33 |
| britney | matey, u can download some David Icke books for free of the pirate bay | Jul 23 06:33 |
| britney | "The biggest secret" is the one on reptilians | Jul 23 06:34 |
| matey | for free of the pirate bay <- :) | Jul 23 06:34 |
| britney | for free on the pirate bay | Jul 23 06:34 |
| britney | lol | Jul 23 06:34 |
| matey | i have never downloaded a book from the pirate bay | Jul 23 06:34 |
| matey | i have downloaded a COUPLE books | Jul 23 06:35 |
| matey | via "other means" | Jul 23 06:35 |
| matey | i bet theres enough stuff on youtube to keep me abreast with the pyramid bill gates and elon musk vy for the top of | Jul 23 06:35 |
| britney | woot woot | Jul 23 06:35 |
| britney | here you go buddy: https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/conspiracy/David%20Icke%20-%20The%20Biggest%20Secret.pdf | Jul 23 06:35 |
| matey | and hes not the pyramid guy i was thinking of | Jul 23 06:36 |
| britney | the entire book for free from https | Jul 23 06:36 |
| matey | but i guess icke has a pyramid too | Jul 23 06:36 |
| matey | btw how long have you been to this channel? new, or | Jul 23 06:37 |
| matey | been here a few years? | Jul 23 06:37 |
| britney | ummm | Jul 23 06:37 |
| britney | i was here like 10 years ago | Jul 23 06:37 |
| matey | that counts | Jul 23 06:37 |
| britney | i was on the first episode of techbytes | Jul 23 06:37 |
| matey | i first met roy about 10 years ago, but im the only one of us that can point to the evidence of that (and i dont) | Jul 23 06:37 |
| matey | tell me about the first episode of techbytes | Jul 23 06:38 |
| matey | im sure its online-- but what was your segment about | Jul 23 06:38 |
| britney | i was a fedora ambassador at the time so i talked about fedora | Jul 23 06:38 |
| matey | i wont lie, i passionately hate it | Jul 23 06:38 |
| matey | but a lot of that is because of ibm | Jul 23 06:38 |
| britney | you hate the podcast? | Jul 23 06:38 |
| matey | i hate fedora | Jul 23 06:38 |
| britney | oh fedora | Jul 23 06:38 |
| britney | i switched from fedora to arch linux for the memes | Jul 23 06:39 |
| matey | lol | Jul 23 06:39 |
| britney | i use arch btw | Jul 23 06:39 |
| matey | i think i tried a couple arch derivs | Jul 23 06:39 |
| matey | maybe even 10 years ago | Jul 23 06:39 |
| matey | it was more usable than i expected but i dont like rolling release | Jul 23 06:39 |
| britney | arch linux now has a thing called "archinstall" | Jul 23 06:40 |
| matey | whats it do | Jul 23 06:40 |
| britney | its a TUI installer | Jul 23 06:40 |
| matey | oh hey | Jul 23 06:40 |
| britney | it helps you install arch | Jul 23 06:40 |
| matey | how did you become a fedora ambassador | Jul 23 06:41 |
| matey | /me thinks it should be called "fedora ambassadora" | Jul 23 06:41 |
| britney | i signed up on their website after i had been hanging out in #fedora-kde on freenode | Jul 23 06:41 |
| matey | though people would take it less seriously then | Jul 23 06:42 |
| britney | lol! | Jul 23 06:42 |
| matey | are you familiar with daniel pocock, and if so, do you have any opinion about him | Jul 23 06:42 |
| britney | the name sounds vaguely familiar | Jul 23 06:42 |
| britney | i don't have any opinion | Jul 23 06:43 |
| matey | he got sued for a website called "wemakefedora" by ibm | Jul 23 06:43 |
| matey | he won the lawsuit | Jul 23 06:43 |
| matey | thats the fedora connection | Jul 23 06:43 |
| britney | oh shit eh | Jul 23 06:43 |
| matey | hes a controversial figure here-- and pretty much everywhere he goes | Jul 23 06:43 |
| britney | its probably a good thing that I stopped using fedora | Jul 23 06:44 |
| matey | if someone told me they moved from fedora to arch | Jul 23 06:44 |
| matey | id probably consider it at least an improvement | Jul 23 06:44 |
| britney | i like having updates every day | Jul 23 06:44 |
| matey | if i had to use one of the two, id probably choose arch | Jul 23 06:44 |
| britney | what distro do you use now? | Jul 23 06:44 |
| matey | i dont, bsd | Jul 23 06:45 |
| britney | oh swank | Jul 23 06:45 |
| matey | and its hilarious they consider those distros | Jul 23 06:45 |
| britney | which BSD do you use? | Jul 23 06:45 |
| matey | because i know theyre not GNU/LINUX distros | Jul 23 06:45 |
| matey | but the d stands for "distribution" ffs | Jul 23 06:45 |
| britney | they're BSD distros | Jul 23 06:45 |
| matey | then theyre say "we arent a distro" | Jul 23 06:45 |
| matey | no, the reject the term! but its in the freaking acronym! | Jul 23 06:45 |
| britney | Berkley Software Distribution = BSD | Jul 23 06:45 |
| matey | its like if i met "blessed union of souls" backstage | Jul 23 06:46 |
| matey | and i said "what kind of souls are you?" | Jul 23 06:46 |
| matey | and they said "we arent souls, we reject the term" | Jul 23 06:46 |
| britney | what BSD do you use? | Jul 23 06:46 |
| matey | and im like: ?? | Jul 23 06:46 |
| matey | netbsd and openbsd | Jul 23 06:46 |
| matey | mostly the latter | Jul 23 06:46 |
| britney | theres like OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, GhostBSD | Jul 23 06:46 |
| britney | helloSystem | Jul 23 06:46 |
| matey | yeahs theres a bunch | Jul 23 06:46 |
| matey | most are based on github, ill call all of those microsoftbsd | Jul 23 06:47 |
| britney | ravynOS | Jul 23 06:47 |
| matey | ravynOS - Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD. | Jul 23 06:47 |
| matey | :/ | Jul 23 06:48 |
| matey | GitHub - ravynsoft/ravynos: A BSD-based OS project that aims to provide ... | Jul 23 06:48 |
| matey | im not sure thats freedom | Jul 23 06:48 |
| britney | is github really a deal breaker for you? | Jul 23 06:48 |
| matey | as much as it possibly can be | Jul 23 06:48 |
| matey | i spent years getting away from microsoft | Jul 23 06:48 |
| matey | then everybody is like "okay! lets all move in here?" | Jul 23 06:49 |
| matey | and then microsoft buys it | Jul 23 06:49 |
| britney | freebsd doesnt use github | Jul 23 06:49 |
| britney | https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/ | Jul 23 06:49 |
| matey | and like 200,000 projects leave | Jul 23 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freebsd.org | src - FreeBSD source tree | Jul 23 06:49 | |
| matey | and the rest... stayed? | Jul 23 06:49 |
| matey | yeah but https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/ | Jul 23 06:49 |
| matey | a couple things about that | Jul 23 06:49 |
| matey | first, too many mirrors (i dont count true mirrors-- theres an openbsd mirror) | Jul 23 06:49 |
| matey | too many "mirrors" turn into the primary development repo | Jul 23 06:50 |
| britney | Do you use openBSD? | Jul 23 06:50 |
| matey | yes | Jul 23 06:50 |
| britney | you know whats really weird? | Jul 23 06:50 |
| matey | specifically? | Jul 23 06:50 |
| britney | if I install openbsd and enable xenodm, xorg works | Jul 23 06:50 |
| britney | but | Jul 23 06:50 |
| britney | if i install openbsd and disable xenodm, xorg doesnt work | Jul 23 06:51 |
| matey | yeah because xenocara is their xorg fork | Jul 23 06:51 |
| matey | when you say "xorg doesnt work" | Jul 23 06:51 |
| matey | do you mean you cant start it at all? | Jul 23 06:51 |
| britney | i run startx and it says it can't find a display | Jul 23 06:51 |
| matey | that was not my experience | Jul 23 06:51 |
| britney | its so weird | Jul 23 06:51 |
| matey | however | Jul 23 06:51 |
| matey | in some instances, if xorg.conf cant be automatically | Jul 23 06:52 |
| matey | you may need to add a line or two to xorg conf | Jul 23 06:52 |
| britney | this is in gnome boxes btw | Jul 23 06:52 |
| matey | something an arch user and former fedora user is definitely up to the task of | Jul 23 06:52 |
| matey | this is in gnome boxes btw <- ah | Jul 23 06:52 |
| matey | i consider any gui in qemu a miracle | Jul 23 06:53 |
| matey | because for some distros it isnt-- but for many it is | Jul 23 06:53 |
| britney | my freebsd install "Just Works(TM)" | Jul 23 06:53 |
| matey | i tried freebsd first | Jul 23 06:53 |
| matey | i tried to install it on every computer i had | Jul 23 06:53 |
| matey | my first impressions were good | Jul 23 06:53 |
| matey | but when it didnt work on some machines | Jul 23 06:53 |
| matey | i tried netbsd next | Jul 23 06:53 |
| britney | i install freebsd, pkg install xfce and add startxfce4 to my .xinitrc and it all just works fine | Jul 23 06:54 |
| matey | and it was more reliable across my collection | Jul 23 06:54 |
| matey | but one machine refused to work properly (or even install properly) except with openbsd | Jul 23 06:54 |
| matey | and tbh, i saved openbsd for last because i anticipated the most trouble with it | Jul 23 06:54 |
| britney | freebsd even has vscode which is odd | Jul 23 06:54 |
| matey | ew | Jul 23 06:54 |
| matey | no everything has vscode now | Jul 23 06:54 |
| matey | it will be in our toilets soon | Jul 23 06:55 |
| britney | lol | Jul 23 06:55 |
| matey | (which is where it belongs) | Jul 23 06:55 |
| britney | i kinda like vscode | Jul 23 06:55 |
| matey | it burns it burns | Jul 23 06:55 |
| britney | lol | Jul 23 06:55 |
| britney | https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/ was written in vscode | Jul 23 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org | Cerberus Investigations | Jul 23 06:55 | |
| matey | ill tell you what vscode is | Jul 23 06:55 |
| britney | whats better than vscode? dont say vim | Jul 23 06:56 |
| matey | vs code is when you used to date windows | Jul 23 06:56 |
| matey | vim is microsoft <- recursive acronym | Jul 23 06:56 |
| britney | lol vim is microsoft? | Jul 23 06:56 |
| matey | vs code is when you used to date windows, and you break up | Jul 23 06:56 |
| matey | vim is microsoft https://github.com/vim/vim | Jul 23 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - vim/vim: The official Vim repository | Jul 23 06:57 | |
| matey | monopoly is bad! | Jul 23 06:57 |
| britney | oh because of github lol | Jul 23 06:57 |
| matey | vs code is when you used to date windows, and you break up for YEARS | Jul 23 06:57 |
| matey | and then out of nowhere your ex shows up and says "ive changed! im a CODE EDITOR!" | Jul 23 06:57 |
| matey | doesnt fool me, vs code is fucking windows in code editor form | Jul 23 06:57 |
| matey | no, no, no, no, no | Jul 23 06:57 |
| britney | i only started using vscode because a Golang tutorial I was watching used it | Jul 23 06:57 |
| matey | /me blames golang, even though its the tutorials fault | Jul 23 06:58 |
| matey | hi im google-- use windows! | Jul 23 06:58 |
| matey | so many reasons not to trust | Jul 23 06:58 |
| britney | i haven't used windows in years | Jul 23 06:58 |
| matey | now with vscode you dont have to | Jul 23 06:58 |
| britney | i was using macOS from 2013 to 2020 | Jul 23 06:58 |
| matey | does it let you turn off updates? | Jul 23 06:59 |
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| matey | i was using macOS from 2013 to 2020 <- you have some strange habits | Jul 23 06:59 |
| britney | lol | Jul 23 06:59 |
| britney | i had a macbook pro | Jul 23 06:59 |
| matey | ive heard less than wonderful things about the new ones | Jul 23 07:00 |
| britney | the screen stopped working in 2020 and i got a refurbished dell from 2013 | Jul 23 07:01 |
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| matey | the screen stopped working in 2020 <- wow | Jul 23 07:01 |
| britney | 2020 to 2022 - fedora | Jul 23 07:01 |
| britney | June 2022 - arch linux | Jul 23 07:01 |
| matey | and you just switched to | Jul 23 07:01 |
| matey | yeah | Jul 23 07:01 |
| matey | so you used fedora 10 years ago | Jul 23 07:01 |
| matey | then macos | Jul 23 07:01 |
| matey | then fedora | Jul 23 07:01 |
| matey | then arch | Jul 23 07:01 |
| britney | yeah | Jul 23 07:01 |
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| matey | whats the best thing about moving from fedora to arch | Jul 23 07:04 |
| matey | other than daily updates! | Jul 23 07:04 |
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| britney | the speed | Jul 23 07:04 |
| britney | it feels a lot faster than fedora | Jul 23 07:04 |
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| DaemonFC | This is in updates-testing. | Jul 23 07:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Might try it out in a bit. | Jul 23 07:04 |
| matey | it feels a lot faster than fedora <- that doesnt surprise me | Jul 23 07:04 |
| matey | when i put debsploitation on a machine in an office once | Jul 23 07:04 |
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| matey | they were complaining that their windows machine was very slow | Jul 23 07:05 |
| matey | and they said i could do whatever i wanted | Jul 23 07:05 |
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| matey | and i asked what tasks they do | Jul 23 07:05 |
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| matey | so this was a rare instance where i could put anything on there and no one would care | Jul 23 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora seems to perform better than Debian on this laptop. | Jul 23 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | Not surprising. I had a lot of things complaining about my graphics drivers on Debian. | Jul 23 07:06 |
| matey | i put debsploitation on there and the girl (well, shes a mum) hugged me and said | Jul 23 07:06 |
| matey | "its so much faster!" | Jul 23 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | Although it mostly worked. | Jul 23 07:06 |
| matey | this was the lxde version | Jul 23 07:06 |
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| DaemonFC | Something destroyed my copy of Fallout New Vegas. | Jul 23 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well. | Jul 23 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'll fix it later. | Jul 23 07:08 |
| matey | graham hancock | Jul 23 07:09 |
| matey | the pyramid guy | Jul 23 07:09 |
| britney | matey, nice | Jul 23 07:09 |
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| matey | "His information is mostly correct" https://allreligionsareone.org/David%20Icke.html | Jul 23 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-allreligionsareone.org | David Icke | Jul 23 07:13 | |
| matey | im not necessarily agreeing with the source, only noting what it says | Jul 23 07:13 |
| matey | that website seems like a cross between a conspiracy website and tvtropes | Jul 23 07:13 |
| matey | conspiracy tropes | Jul 23 07:13 |
| matey | funnily enough, many years ago i considered making an online encyclopedia of stuff like that | Jul 23 07:14 |
| matey | mostly about religions and cults | Jul 23 07:14 |
| matey | today it would probably be redundant | Jul 23 07:14 |
| phanes | man that was a bullshit outage | Jul 23 07:17 |
| matey | hi phanes | Jul 23 07:19 |
| phanes | sup | Jul 23 07:19 |
| matey | https://debian.community | Jul 23 07:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debian.community | Debian Community News | Jul 23 07:20 | |
| phanes | why the hell am i doing major changes on a friday | Jul 23 07:20 |
| matey | updates july 22 | Jul 23 07:20 |
| phanes | this is retarded | Jul 23 07:20 |
| matey | s/s// | Jul 23 07:20 |
| phanes | anyway i dont understand the context for debian.community because nobody answers me when i ask about it | Jul 23 07:20 |
| matey | ask me | Jul 23 07:21 |
| matey | ill tell you whatever i know | Jul 23 07:21 |
| matey | and ill admit whatever i dont | Jul 23 07:21 |
| phanes | yeah gimme a sec, i need to be drinking | Jul 23 07:21 |
| matey | good idea (ill wait) | Jul 23 07:21 |
| phanes | hell yeah i got two half finished bottled of balvenie doublewood | Jul 23 07:22 |
| phanes | *bottles | Jul 23 07:22 |
| phanes | anwyay so whts the scoop on this pocock guy, like how did this start | Jul 23 07:23 |
| matey | i dont know how it started | Jul 23 07:24 |
| matey | i can bring you in where i came in | Jul 23 07:24 |
| matey | hes a debian / fedora guy afaik | Jul 23 07:24 |
| matey | he was a dd but got busted down to dm (other way around?) which he says was retaliatory | Jul 23 07:25 |
| matey | roy has republished him, ariadne hates him | Jul 23 07:25 |
| matey | mjg seethes pure hate you can feel over plaintext for him | Jul 23 07:25 |
| matey | i dont think its my imagination but it cant be ruled out of course | Jul 23 07:26 |
| techrights-news | FFmpeg 5.1 “Riemann” LTS Released with VDPAU AV1 Hardware Acceleration, New Filters • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167553 | Jul 23 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 5.1 “Riemann” LTS Released with VDPAU AV1 Hardware Acceleration, New Filters | Tux Machines | Jul 23 07:26 | |
| matey | i dont think mjg usually seethes anything, so this is notable | Jul 23 07:26 |
| matey | like how superman is suddenly way less cool when you bring kryptonite around | Jul 23 07:26 |
| matey | but there are times even i think he goes too far | Jul 23 07:27 |
| matey | he basically called for people to swat molly deblanc | Jul 23 07:27 |
| matey | which i did not agree with | Jul 23 07:27 |
| phanes | he mostly just scuttles around in the shadows when im around, sticks his pincers in from the dark to see if he can catch anything | Jul 23 07:28 |
| matey | and you can say im exaggerating, please feel free to, but its one of those "close enough imo" deals | Jul 23 07:28 |
| matey | he mostly just scuttles around in the shadows when im around <- mjg? | Jul 23 07:28 |
| *phanes makes clicking sounds and demonstrates pincers with his hands | Jul 23 07:28 | |
| phanes | yeah | Jul 23 07:28 |
| phanes | i see angry wounded child | Jul 23 07:28 |
| phanes | but anyway pocock | Jul 23 07:29 |
| phanes | why does mjg hate pocock | Jul 23 07:29 |
| matey | its mutual | Jul 23 07:29 |
| *schestowitz[TR2] retires for the nightgulag inc. | Jul 23 07:29 | |
| matey | mjg is a debian / red hat guy | Jul 23 07:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | oops | Jul 23 07:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gulag inc. | Jul 23 07:29 |
| matey | hi roy, debian is a sweatshop like the epo | Jul 23 07:30 |
| matey | they dont make free software, they make slave software | Jul 23 07:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | a lot of the early postings revealed how gulag was censoring mailing lists | Jul 23 07:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and how gulaag summer of labour misused projects | Jul 23 07:30 |
| matey | obviously this is about google, NOT debian | Jul 23 07:30 |
| matey | its never about debian | Jul 23 07:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | mixture of things | Jul 23 07:30 |
| matey | except when it isnt important | Jul 23 07:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but anyway, some people make a living by licking the corporate boot | Jul 23 07:30 |
| matey | debian must be a dupont product like teflon | Jul 23 07:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm not one of them | Jul 23 07:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | guess who has an easier life | Jul 23 07:31 |
| matey | #wefighttoo | Jul 23 07:31 |
| matey | phanes: ill tell you how i came to (not really) know pocock is this | Jul 23 07:31 |
| matey | i mean i really DONT know him | Jul 23 07:31 |
| matey | at least his passion seems very sincere | Jul 23 07:31 |
| matey | his intentions? i dont fucking know | Jul 23 07:31 |
| matey | carl sagan couldnt touch his hyperbole or passionate embrace of the subject matter | Jul 23 07:32 |
| techrights-news | Switching to Vger on FreeBSD gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202207230740.gmi | Jul 23 07:32 |
| matey | BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of something | Jul 23 07:32 |
| matey | but hes the one that showed there was censorship of stallman supporters on the gnu mailing lists | Jul 23 07:33 |
| matey | in sept 2019 or thereabouts | Jul 23 07:33 |
| matey | before that-- it looked like fsfe was the main evil in fsf land | Jul 23 07:33 |
| matey | someone (we dont know) faked stallmans resignation from gnu, which reminded me of the bush fraud in 2000 | Jul 23 07:34 |
| matey | fox made it look like he was president accidentally | Jul 23 07:34 |
| matey | like that didnt affect the election | Jul 23 07:34 |
| matey | i mean they accidentally played the "winner" clip | Jul 23 07:34 |
| matey | before it was true | Jul 23 07:34 |
| matey | does everyone vote anyway after seeing that? on the way to the polls | Jul 23 07:34 |
| matey | who knows | Jul 23 07:35 |
| matey | microsoft gave a million dollars to his campaign | Jul 23 07:35 |
| phanes | matey: any idea what is moviations with debian are? | Jul 23 07:35 |
| matey | his motivations? | Jul 23 07:35 |
| matey | i mean | Jul 23 07:35 |
| matey | he attacks debian more than any person ive ever seen attack debian | Jul 23 07:35 |
| matey | hes mel gibson from braveheart. of debian. | Jul 23 07:35 |
| matey | fedora gets the same treatment | Jul 23 07:36 |
| matey | hes a machine man | Jul 23 07:36 |
| matey | a machine | Jul 23 07:36 |
| matey | im sort of in awe, but im not sure what to think | Jul 23 07:36 |
| matey | i believe-- even from people who DONT like him | Jul 23 07:36 |
| matey | that some of what he says is true, relevant, and matters | Jul 23 07:36 |
| matey | and which part? thats what i dont know | Jul 23 07:36 |
| matey | kind of a pity | Jul 23 07:37 |
| matey | but holy hell what a list of leads | Jul 23 07:37 |
| matey | you could shove your face right into it like scarface | Jul 23 07:37 |
| matey | and you really do get the impression that debian is pure evil | Jul 23 07:37 |
| matey | i personally thought it was about 33% evil | Jul 23 07:38 |
| phanes | oh there is no arguing that there are grotesque elements in debian | Jul 23 07:38 |
| matey | up from 23% in 2014 | Jul 23 07:38 |
| matey | i used to be a passionate debian fan btw | Jul 23 07:38 |
| matey | never thought id need another distro. until 2014 :/ | Jul 23 07:38 |
| matey | used to give away debian computers | Jul 23 07:38 |
| matey | collected them too | Jul 23 07:39 |
| phanes | as much clashing as i do, debian is one of the few communities ive never even considered being a part of due to its culture | Jul 23 07:39 |
| matey | debsploitation should be a word | Jul 23 07:39 |
| matey | debian is a plantation | Jul 23 07:39 |
| matey | i finally gave up on bruce perens today | Jul 23 07:40 |
| matey | fuck it | Jul 23 07:40 |
| matey | he did write a really great public email in 1999 | Jul 23 07:40 |
| matey | still a favourite | Jul 23 07:41 |
| matey | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/02/msg01641.html | Jul 23 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | It's Time to Talk About Free Software Again | Jul 23 07:41 | |
| phanes | so | Jul 23 07:41 |
| phanes | i mean | Jul 23 07:41 |
| phanes | it sounds like he's been dumping on debian for years | Jul 23 07:41 |
| matey | and fedora | Jul 23 07:41 |
| phanes | and alot of debian people are mad at him | Jul 23 07:42 |
| matey | to say the least | Jul 23 07:42 |
| matey | debian also #1 group signing the anti-rms letter | Jul 23 07:42 |
| phanes | but are they mad at him because they're people he's exposing or are they mad at him from the disruptions? | Jul 23 07:42 |
| matey | i counted 108 | Jul 23 07:42 |
| matey | <phanes> but are they mad at him because they're people he's exposing or are they mad at him from the disruptions? <- great question | Jul 23 07:42 |
| matey | <matey> i counted 108 <- a gnu contributor counted closer to 130 debian people. but i thought i got them all | Jul 23 07:43 |
| matey | thats 108 out of roughly 3000 | Jul 23 07:43 |
| matey | including a slew of dpls | Jul 23 07:43 |
| matey | including people who presided over the systemd takeover / death of debian | Jul 23 07:44 |
| matey | but not to change the subject | Jul 23 07:44 |
| matey | i dont know who is more full of shit | Jul 23 07:44 |
| matey | pocock or the debian people | Jul 23 07:44 |
| matey | if i had to guess, the debian people, of course | Jul 23 07:44 |
| matey | but its still a guess | Jul 23 07:44 |
| matey | its possible hes not full of shit at all, but ive certainly seen the dark side | Jul 23 07:45 |
| matey | his methods are almost comically anti-authoritarian | Jul 23 07:46 |
| matey | and im anti-authoritarian | Jul 23 07:46 |
| matey | but then its easy to say that | Jul 23 07:46 |
| matey | you just press these keys in a sequence, and voila | Jul 23 07:46 |
| phanes | so whats all this about debian.community going away unless they file an appeal | Jul 23 07:46 |
| matey | oh thats what pisses me off | Jul 23 07:47 |
| matey | rather the insinuation that it was going away | Jul 23 07:47 |
| matey | its not, i dont think | Jul 23 07:47 |
| matey | the page clearly states-- near the top | Jul 23 07:47 |
| matey | debian.community has contingency plans | Jul 23 07:47 |
| matey | and volunteers (even if thats just coded language for pocock, hes an army of one) | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | working to move it to other domains | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | this is SOLELY about the domain name | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | its notable of course, if ibm tries that and fails | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | and debian tries that and succeeds | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | that means debian can "protect their trademark" more than ibm can | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | wtf does that mean... | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | how | Jul 23 07:48 |
| matey | its like someone brings a giant death star in | Jul 23 07:49 |
| matey | and vader says "i have a death star" | Jul 23 07:49 |
| phanes | yeah the last thing you'd want in a PR campaign is for someone like that to become decentralized | Jul 23 07:49 |
| matey | and vader dundee says "thayts not a death stah" | Jul 23 07:49 |
| matey | "THAYTS a death stah" | Jul 23 07:49 |
| phanes | from debian's view i mena | Jul 23 07:49 |
| phanes | *mean | Jul 23 07:49 |
| phanes | its a poor strategic choice on their part to try to shut it down | Jul 23 07:50 |
| matey | debian doesnt like strategy | Jul 23 07:50 |
| matey | they like to just beat your face in with their dicks | Jul 23 07:50 |
| matey | it certainly convinced me to stop supporting them | Jul 23 07:50 |
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| matey | i like that they have a logo that looks like something being flushed down a toilet | Jul 23 07:53 |
| matey | i think it represents their credibility | Jul 23 07:53 |
| matey | if pocock is right though | Jul 23 07:54 |
| matey | then debian kills | Jul 23 07:55 |
| matey | it works people to death and then it thoughtpolices their funerals | Jul 23 07:55 |
| matey | i wont deny i have some trouble believing the scope of this | Jul 23 07:55 |
| matey | but thats also how pure evil works, so its not not an easy litmus test | Jul 23 07:55 |
| matey | either theyre pure evil, or theres hyperbole | Jul 23 07:55 |
| matey | and if its hyperbole, how much evil is there? 80% 33%? | Jul 23 07:56 |
| matey | they amount they tend to get away with stays around 100% | Jul 23 07:56 |
| matey | for now | Jul 23 07:56 |
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| britney | matey, pocock has github | Jul 23 07:59 |
| britney | https://github.com/dpocock | Jul 23 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dpocock (Daniel Pocock) · GitHub | Jul 23 07:59 | |
| matey | oh he uses a lot of things i dont approve of | Jul 23 07:59 |
| matey | the github account only means id rather not use any of his software if i can help it | Jul 23 07:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | matey: was it you who told me he likes sytemd? | Jul 23 07:59 |
| matey | i dont know or understand his position on systemd | Jul 23 08:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ok | Jul 23 08:00 |
| matey | i dont think he hates it though | Jul 23 08:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you got me thinking maybe he said glowing things about its capability | Jul 23 08:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | matey: btw, good news | Jul 23 08:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | this morning | Jul 23 08:00 |
| matey | id need to be quoted to explain what i said | Jul 23 08:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you can see in #boycottnovel | Jul 23 08:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we've deployed to the new tuxmachines via git | Jul 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | self-0hosted by tuxmachines domain | Jul 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and the site is now running there | Jul 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but password-protected for now | Jul 23 08:01 |
| matey | okay | Jul 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we're testing as it's a new CMS we made | Jul 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no systemd | Jul 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | just alpine | Jul 23 08:01 |
| matey | no systemd is an upgrade | Jul 23 08:01 |
| matey | no debian would be if it wasnt fedora before | Jul 23 08:02 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'll register git.tuxmachines.org in DNS | Jul 23 08:02 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's the same address | Jul 23 08:02 |
| matey | /me closes his eyes and sees the matrix | Jul 23 08:03 |
| matey | /me opens them again and sees irc | Jul 23 08:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you can make irc clients look like The Matrix | Jul 23 08:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ok, git.tuxmachines.org and beta.tuxmachines.org registered now | Jul 23 08:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | techrights git is separate | Jul 23 08:06 |
| matey | shit reminds me of the matrix enough alrady | Jul 23 08:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so all the files will be managed via git | Jul 23 08:06 |
| matey | thats a good idea | Jul 23 08:06 |
| matey | phanes: this frans pop guy suicided on the anniversay of debians founding | Jul 23 08:07 |
| matey | either he was extremely fragile, extremely abused, or both | Jul 23 08:07 |
| matey | i would leave this alone completely | Jul 23 08:08 |
| matey | except for the abuse possibility | Jul 23 08:08 |
| matey | that cant go unmentioned | Jul 23 08:08 |
| matey | the extremely fragile part is in fairness | Jul 23 08:08 |
| matey | because simply accusing people of something doesnt make it so | Jul 23 08:08 |
| matey | it also has to be true, obviously | Jul 23 08:08 |
| matey | not merely honest-- it also has to be true | Jul 23 08:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | iirc, it wasn't on debian day exactly | Jul 23 08:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but a day or days apart | Jul 23 08:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the problekm is, posthumously assuming stuff | Jul 23 08:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | where you cannot be refuted by those who know best | Jul 23 08:10 |
| matey | im going to make up a figure and guess that at least 99% of murders are "assumed" posthumously | Jul 23 08:10 |
| techrights-news | My week in KDE: slow but steady • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167554 | Jul 23 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My week in KDE: slow but steady | Tux Machines | Jul 23 08:10 | |
| matey | just saying | Jul 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | this is disffent from murder | Jul 23 08:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | why? | Jul 23 08:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | because in murder the murdere is alive | Jul 23 08:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | with suicide the receiver and deliverer are the same | Jul 23 08:11 |
| phanes | it needs to be verifiable or plainly obvious in the details | Jul 23 08:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so motives cannot be interrogated for | Jul 23 08:11 |
| matey | The Debian Project has lost a member of its community. Frans Pop (fjp) died on August 20th. | Jul 23 08:12 |
| phanes | no they can't | Jul 23 08:12 |
| phanes | but they can lead to other facts that can | Jul 23 08:12 |
| matey | if someone is bullied into suicide | Jul 23 08:12 |
| matey | which politically i consider a VERY delicate and somewhat nuanced issue | Jul 23 08:12 |
| matey | the "culprits" and the "trigger guy" arent necesssarily the same | Jul 23 08:13 |
| matey | but youre missing a HUGE point as far as investigations go | Jul 23 08:13 |
| matey | so large i almost cant believe it, except its you | Jul 23 08:13 |
| matey | interrogations arent necessary to solving every murder case | Jul 23 08:14 |
| matey | sometimes you can get by entirely on forensics | Jul 23 08:14 |
| matey | or witnesses | Jul 23 08:14 |
| matey | without interrogation | Jul 23 08:14 |
| matey | im not saying its useless-- im saying if its not possible, its not always ncessary | Jul 23 08:14 |
| matey | you can SOLVE a murder case with no interrogations | Jul 23 08:14 |
| matey | and you can also solve a murder without getting a single word out of the killer | Jul 23 08:15 |
| matey | debian was founded on august 16th | Jul 23 08:16 |
| matey | so roy is correct that frans didnt die on the exact day | Jul 23 08:17 |
| matey | but 4 days later on the 20th | Jul 23 08:17 |
| matey | i declared gnu dead on its birthday | Jul 23 08:17 |
| matey | it wasnt intentional | Jul 23 08:17 |
| matey | the date-- whether you believe that or not | Jul 23 08:17 |
| matey | i knew it was around that time (a coincidence) but i didnt realise it was the same day | Jul 23 08:18 |
| matey | im not sure if pocock is qualified to make this statement so confidently | Jul 23 08:21 |
| matey | "Pop's resignation note was written on 15 August, the night before Debian's anniversary. He was clearly thinking about taking his life on the anniversary of Debian's founding, Debian Day." | Jul 23 08:21 |
| matey | "He was clearly" | Jul 23 08:21 |
| matey | i think the word hes looking for is perhaps or possibly | Jul 23 08:21 |
| matey | "If Debian was sincere in their sympathy for Frans Pop, they would never impose psychological tortures on any other developer. Their refusal to admit or even acknowledge the possibility of a connection with these deaths is the ultimate insult to Frans Pop, Lucy Wayland, other victims and their families." | Jul 23 08:22 |
| matey | https://debian.community/coroner-report-lucy-wayland-debian-abuse-culture/ | Jul 23 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debian.community | Coroner's Report: Lucy Wayland & Debian Abuse Culture | Jul 23 08:22 | |
| matey | we should really start tracking the death tolls of free software projects | Jul 23 08:23 |
| matey | id rather do it with integers, not names, personally | Jul 23 08:23 |
| matey | which distro has the highest suicide rate among developers | Jul 23 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | mateyand vader says "i have a death star" | Jul 23 08:23 |
| matey | if it counts at foxconn, it might count in free software | Jul 23 08:23 |
| matey | this isnt a joke btw | Jul 23 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | Vader was unimpressed by the Death Star. | Jul 23 08:23 |
| matey | and it would be responsible to account for the number of developers | Jul 23 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | He referred to it as a "technological terror" but said "it pales" in comparison to The Force. | Jul 23 08:24 |
| matey | like if debian had 100,000 devs, then of course its going to have more suicides than tinycore. | Jul 23 08:24 |
| matey | that should be accounted for | Jul 23 08:24 |
| matey | suicides per number of devs | Jul 23 08:24 |
| matey | this is beneath techrights of course | Jul 23 08:25 |
| matey | its too base a topic | Jul 23 08:25 |
| matey | lets talk about kde neon | Jul 23 08:25 |
| matey | (i dont know if kde neon ever killed any of its developers) | Jul 23 08:26 |
| matey | coca cola kills its farmers http://killercoke.org | Jul 23 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-killercoke.org | NO TITLE | Jul 23 08:26 | |
| matey | this is a website stallman promotes | Jul 23 08:26 |
| matey | he also boycotts coca cola products | Jul 23 08:26 |
| matey | if you bring him a dasani, he will politely ask you to bring any other brand of water or even tap water instead | Jul 23 08:27 |
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| matey | "As we approach the third anniversary of Lucy Wayland (aardvark)'s death, we want to consider the possibility that Debian contributed to the death." | Jul 23 08:29 |
| matey | Lucy Wayland was a Senior Applications Engineer at ARM in Cambridge, UK. Wayland was placed in the lowest rank in Debian: the title Debian Contributor. | Jul 23 08:31 |
| matey | he compares this to the debian project leaders girlfriends rank, despite her bringing no technical skills to the table at all | Jul 23 08:31 |
| matey | the amount of nepotism-- the SCALE of it, at debian | Jul 23 08:33 |
| matey | does seem staggering, and helps explain its downfall | Jul 23 08:33 |
| matey | its not a conspiracy, so much as its incest | Jul 23 08:33 |
| matey | that was certainly enough to bring down the hapsburgs, why not debian as well | Jul 23 08:33 |
| matey | i imagine the one about diameter in particular is bullshit, but this is a fun read https://jaba.jabajabba.com/earths-moon-is-a-hollow-space-station-the-evidence/ | Jul 23 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jaba.jabajabba.com | Earth's Moon is a Hollow Space Station: The Evidence – Jabajabba | Reading Archive | Jul 23 08:41 | |
| matey | this is more fun than flat earth | Jul 23 08:42 |
| matey | Greek authors Aristotle and Plutarch, and Roman authors Apollonius Rhodius and Ovid all wrote of a group of people called the Proselenes who lived in the central mountainous area of Greece called Arcadia. The Proselenes claimed title to this area because their forebears were there “before there was a moon in the heavens.” [6] | Jul 23 08:43 |
| matey | This claim is substantiated by symbols on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, which record that the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13, 000 years ago, long before recorded history. | Jul 23 08:43 |
| matey | "the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13, 000 years ago" | Jul 23 08:43 |
| matey | "Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa said that Zulu legends believe the Moon to be hollow and the home of the Python or Chitauri" | Jul 23 08:44 |
| matey | probably still better than python 3 | Jul 23 08:44 |
| britney | “before there was a moon in the heavens.” | Jul 23 08:44 |
| britney | so before the reptilians parked their space ship | Jul 23 08:45 |
| matey | "Credo Mutwa claims that the Earth was very different then it is now before the Moon had arrived. There weren’t any seasons and the planet was perpetually engulfed by a canopy of water vapor. People did not feel the strong glare of the Sun that we do now, and they could only see it through a watery mist. " | Jul 23 08:45 |
| matey | People did not feel the strong glare of the Sun that we do now, and they could only see it through a watery mist. <- sounds like belfast | Jul 23 08:45 |
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| matey | https://jaba.jabajabba.com/the-number-1-tool-for-dumbing-down-the-general-population/ | Jul 23 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jaba.jabajabba.com | The Number 1 Tool for Dumbing Down the General Population – Jabajabba | Reading Archive | Jul 23 08:53 | |
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| matey | “If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.”-- mark twain | Jul 23 08:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Tons of UI improvements and bugfixes | Tux Machines | Jul 23 08:54 | |
| techrights-news | Top 10 Best Music Players for Linux in 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167556 | Jul 23 08:55 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 23 09:30 |
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| matey | so this is fun | Jul 23 09:38 |
| matey | i guess in another dimension http://thebeatlesneverbrokeup.com/story the john lennon song "nobody told me" is a beatles song called "days like these" http://thebeatlesneverbrokeup.com/ | Jul 23 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thebeatlesneverbrokeup.com | The Story of the Tape | Jul 23 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thebeatlesneverbrokeup.com | The Beatles Never Broke Up... | Jul 23 09:40 | |
| matey | strange story indeed | Jul 23 09:40 |
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| matey | maybe jackie wilson has a song called "van morrison said" | Jul 23 09:41 |
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| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Friday, July 22, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/irc-log-220722/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/irc-log-220722/ | Jul 23 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, July 22, 2022 | Techrights | Jul 23 10:14 | |
| techrights-news | "Recently we upgraded our Prometheus server from Ubuntu 18.04 to 22.04, moved it to new hardware" ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PrometheusMovingTSDBWithRsync | Source: uni Toronto | Jul 23 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/PrometheusMovingTSDBWithRsync | Jul 23 10:23 | |
| techrights-news | "There's probably a way to do this in Apache with the right set of directives" ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/ApacheNestedAccessBruteForce | Source: uni Toronto | Jul 23 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/ApacheNestedAccessBruteForce | Jul 23 10:23 | |
| techrights-news | "No, not that Duke Nukem game — I mean the platformer." ☛ https://www.talospace.com/2022/07/tonights-game-on-openpower-duke-nukem-ii.html | Source: Talospace | Jul 23 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Tonight's game on OpenPOWER: Duke Nukem II | Jul 23 10:24 | |
| techrights-news | "I’m not a huge fan of dark UI themes." ☛ https://www.tumfatig.net/2022/sweet-mars-inspired-theme-for-windowmaker/ | Source: TuMFatig | Jul 23 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tumfatig.net | TuM'Fatig - Sweet Mars inspired theme for WindowMaker | Jul 23 10:25 | |
| techrights-news | "I’ve been confused about what’s going on with terminals for a long time." ☛ https://rubenerd.com/jeff-geerlings-all-flash-nas/ | Source: Ruben Schade | Jul 23 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Jeff Geerling’s all-flash NAS | Jul 23 10:27 | |
| techrights-news | "We’re landing in St James Quarter, which is tucked away in the New Town area of Edinburgh." ☛ https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/were-coming-to-edinburgh/ | Source: Raspberry Pi | Jul 23 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.com | We're coming to Edinburgh! - Raspberry Pi | Jul 23 10:27 | |
| techrights-news | "Gitea is the software we’ve decided to put our faith into" ☛ https://code.blender.org/2022/07/gitea-diaries-part-1/ | | Jul 23 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-code.blender.org | Gitea Diaries: Part 1 — Blender Developers Blog | Jul 23 10:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gitea | Jul 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | looked into it | Jul 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | a large chain of deps | Jul 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | hosting git ui over gemini is better | Jul 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we'll set up tuxmachines that way | Jul 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | first gemini support added | Jul 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | then we'll linkk git.tuxmachines.org tto gemini.tuxmachines.org | Jul 23 10:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so you can browser the repo | Jul 23 10:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like in Techrights | Jul 23 10:29 |
| techrights-news | Thoughts on RSS ☛ https://idiomdrottning.org/re-thoughts-on-rss | Source: Idiomdrottning | Jul 23 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idiomdrottning.org | Re: Thoughts on RSS | Jul 23 10:29 | |
| techrights-news | "This tutorial will teach you how to use MongoDB databases with the Go programming language" ☛ https://earthly.dev/blog/use-mongo-with-go/ | Source: Earthly | Jul 23 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-earthly.dev | How to Use MongoDB with Go - Earthly Blog | Jul 23 10:30 | |
| techrights-news | "We love naming generations and ascribing vices and virtues to them. Boomers. Millenials. Zoomers." ☛ https://www.datagubbe.se/hcg/ | Source: Carl Svensson | Jul 23 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Home Computer Generation | datagubbe.se | Jul 23 10:31 | |
| techrights-news | "I feel that we who went through edit autoexec.bat, notepad index.html" ☛ https://idiomdrottning.org/generations | Source: Idiomdrottning | Jul 23 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idiomdrottning.org | Talking about my generation | Jul 23 10:31 | |
| techrights-news | "The problem, as I’m sure you have guessed, is some sort of stupid bug in what passes for web development" ☛ https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/07/17/modern-technology-please-stop-trying-to-be-helpful/ | Source: Positech Games | Jul 23 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.positech.co.uk | Modern Technology: Please stop trying to be helpful – Cliffski's Blog | Jul 23 10:36 | |
| techrights-news | "The problem with this is that let and if are also injected, not just it." ☛ https://idiomdrottning.org/guile-defmacro | Source: Idiomdrottning | Jul 23 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idiomdrottning.org | A problem with Guile's defmacro | Jul 23 10:37 | |
| techrights-news | "The academic experimental results are very promising, but achieving widespread adoption of CHERI needs an industry-scale evaluation" ☛ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/07/22/formal-cheri/ | Source: Light Blue Touchpaper | Jul 23 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightbluetouchpaper.org | Formal CHERI: rigorous engineering and design-time proof of full-scale architecture security properties | Light Blue Touchpaper | Jul 23 10:37 | |
| techrights-news | "My experience has shown that serious issues are almost always known issues at the time of shipping." ☛ https://techreflect.net/2022/07/just-admit-qa-was-right/ | Source: Tech Reflect | Jul 23 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techreflect.net | Just admit QA was right - Tech Reflect | Jul 23 10:38 | |
| techrights-news | "My request was pretty easy," ☛ https://jpmens.net/2022/07/19/a-human-and-a-spreadsheet/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens | Jul 23 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jpmens.net | Jan-Piet Mens :: A human and a spreadsheet | Jul 23 10:39 | |
| techrights-news | "developers using this workflow on native git and GitHub can run into problems." ☛ https://matt-rickard.com/stacked-pull-requests/ | Source: Matt Rickard | Jul 23 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Stacked Pull Requests | Jul 23 10:40 | |
| techrights-news | "The alternative to “Stacked Pull Requests” is “Stacked Commits”.The alternative to “Stacked Pull Requests” is “Stacked Commits”." ☛ https://benjamincongdon.me/blog/2022/07/17/In-Praise-of-Stacked-PRs/ | Source: Ben Congdon | Jul 23 10:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjamincongdon.me | In Praise of Stacked PRs | Ben Congdon | Jul 23 10:41 | |
| techrights-news | "So, I should probably make it official. The Perl Advent Calendar is back once again in 2022." ☛ https://www.olafalders.com/2022/07/21/the-perl-advent-calendar-2022-call-for-papers-is-now-open/ | Source: Olaf Alders | Jul 23 10:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Perl Advent Calendar 2022 Call for Papers Is Now Open - olafalders.com | Jul 23 10:41 | |
| techrights-news | "UFC distributor Joe Hand Promotions regularly goes after bars and restaurants that show fights to customers without paying" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/ufc-boxing-distributor-uses-copyright-claims-board-to-target-pirating-bars-220722/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jul 23 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UFC & Boxing Distributor Uses Copyright Claims Board to Target 'Pirating' Bars * TorrentFreak | Jul 23 10:42 | |
| techrights-news | IPTV ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/uk-pirate-iptv-sellers-receive-in-person-warnings-from-police-fact-220722/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jul 23 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK Pirate IPTV Sellers Receive In-Person Warnings From Police Officers & FACT * TorrentFreak | Jul 23 10:43 | |
| techrights-news | "The internet has changed the way we communicate" ☛ https://fair.org/counterspin/nora-benavidez-on-post-roe-data-privacy-dorothee-benz-on-january-6-insurrection/ | Source: FAIR | Jul 23 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Nora Benavidez on Post-Roe Data Privacy, Dorothee Benz on January 6 Insurrection - FAIR | Jul 23 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | Starting My Smartphone Free Life! ⚓ https://odysee.com/@LinuxLounge:b/starting-my-smartphone-free-life!:9 ䷉ Source: LinuxLounge | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//odysee.com/@LinuxLounge:b/starting-my-smartphone-free-life!:9 | Jul 23 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Starting My Smartphone Free Life! | Jul 23 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | Looters https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/07/20/26-top-billionaires-paid-an-average-income-tax-rate-of-just-4-8/ | Jul 23 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | 26 top billionaires paid an average income tax rate of just 4.8% – neritam | Jul 23 10:45 | |
| techrights-news | Social CONTROL media and tourists ☛ https://rubenerd.com/social-media-and-tourism/ | Source: Ruben Schade | Jul 23 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Social media and tourists | Jul 23 10:48 | |
| techrights-news | "It's been a long time since the altruistic early web—putting content out there for the its own sake." ☛ https://ericwbailey.design/writing/saying-thank-you/ | Source: Eric Bailey | Jul 23 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ericwbailey.design | Saying thank you – Eric Bailey | Jul 23 10:48 | |
| techrights-news | He's leaving for London https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/oleksandr-zinchenko-s-city-highlights-63793943 | Jul 23 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Oleksandr Zinchenko's City highlights | Jul 23 10:49 | |
| techrights-news | But he still carries around a tracking device https://odysee.com/@LinuxLounge:b/starting-my-smartphone-free-life!:9 | Jul 23 10:52 |
| techrights-news | "The spacecraft is sending data up to 57 gigabytes (GB) of data per day back to Earth" ☛ https://cacm.acm.org/news/262735-the-webb-space-telescopes-profound-data-challenges/fulltext | Source: ACM | Jul 23 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | The Webb Space Telescope's Profound Data Challenges | News | Communications of the ACM | Jul 23 10:55 | |
| techrights-news | "This last week, Popcorn Computer announced that they have commenced production on their hand-held “Pocket PC” — with the pocket-sized computer" ☛ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/a-new-linux-powered-pocket-pc-has | Source: Bryan Lunduke | Jul 23 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lunduke.substack.com | A new, Linux-powered Pocket PC has started production | Jul 23 10:56 | |
| techrights-news | "How much have you spent on Amazon? Well, that’s a kind of interesting question to find an answer to." ☛ https://earthly.dev/blog/analyze-amzndata-pyth/ | Source: Earthly | Jul 23 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-earthly.dev | Analyze Your Amazon Data with Python - Earthly Blog | Jul 23 10:58 | |
| techrights-news | "it seems clear that Google’s Fuchsia team still has plans to grow beyond the smart home" ☛ https://9to5google.com/2022/07/15/android-removes-fuchsia-code-starnix/ | Source: 9to5Google | Jul 23 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Android removes Fuchsia code as Starnix project progresses - 9to5Google | Jul 23 10:58 | |
| techrights-news | "Microsoft feeling threatened by Netscape" ☛ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/windows-is-still-just-a-poorly-debugged-set-of-device-drivers/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) | Jul 23 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Windows is still just a “poorly debugged set of device drivers”. – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 23 10:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▁▅▅▆▆▅▅▅▆▄▅▆▅▅▆▅▆▁▅▄▅▅▅▄▂▂▁▂▃▅▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 32.53 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁█▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 28.31▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 23 10:59 |
| techrights-news | Banana Pi router dev board is equipped with Rockchip RK3588, dual GbE and 8GB RAM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167522#comment-34417 | Jul 23 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Banana Pi BPI-W3 - An RK3588 SBC with dual Gigabit Ethernet, SATA, PCIe x4 slot | Tux Machines | Jul 23 10:59 | |
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| techrights-news | "The study estimates that about 19% of all households are affected without being aware of the problem. The majority of the affected devices are inexpensive Internet of things devices" ☛ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/ip-data-retention-is-no-option-ipv6-addresses-can-be-unique-and-persistent-tracking-identifiers-a-new-study-finds/ | Source: Patrick Breyer | Jul 23 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | IP data retention is no option: IPv6 addresses can be unique and persistent tracking identifiers – a new study finds – Patrick Breyer | Jul 23 11:07 | |
| techrights-news | "The district is also in talks with multiple software companies to roll out new technology that would track the location of students throughout the day" ☛ https://evanstonroundtable.com/2022/07/13/district-65-board-greenlights-new-security-positions/ | | Jul 23 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-evanstonroundtable.com | District 65 board greenlights new security positions - Evanston RoundTable | Jul 23 11:07 | |
| techrights-news | "Some sites, including Facebook, add parameters to the web address for tracking purposes" ☛ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/07/17/facebook-has-started-to-encrypt-links-to-counter-privacy-improving-url-stripping/ | Source: Ghacks | Jul 23 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Facebook has started to encrypt links to counter privacy-improving URL Stripping - gHacks Tech News | Jul 23 11:08 | |
| techrights-news | "After ten years, the German Federal Data Protection Commissioner has again inspected the INPOL-Z" ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/07/22/data-protection-commissioners-audit-germanys-largest-police-database-contains-many-illicit-records/ | Source: Site36 | Jul 23 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Data Protection Commissioner’s audit: Germany’s largest police database contains many illicit records – Security Architectures in the EU | Jul 23 11:11 | |
| techrights-news | "Yet another basic human rights violation, courtesy of NSO Group: Citizen Lab has the details" ☛ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/nso-groups-pegasus-spyware-used-against-thailand-pro-democracy-activists-and-leaders.html | Source: Bruce Schneier | Jul 23 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NSO Group’s Pegasus Spyware Used against Thailand Pro-Democracy Activists and Leaders - Schneier on Security | Jul 23 11:11 | |
| techrights-news | "The Sequoia command line tool sq has gained support for the sq keyring list and sq wkd url commands." ☛ https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2022/07/21/202207-sq-json/ | Source: SequoiaPGP | Jul 23 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sequoia-pgp.org | Blog - JSON support for sq keyring list, sq wkd url | Jul 23 11:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Below is a summary of the proposed constitution. [...]" ☛ https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2022-July/066142.html | Source: GnuPG | Jul 23 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnupg.org | Request for Comment: keys.openpgp.org Organization | Jul 23 11:13 | |
| techrights-news | ""John Doe" recently contacted the two former SZ journalists, who now work for DER SPIEGEL" ☛ https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-first-interview-with-the-panama-papers-whistleblower-the-russian-government-wants-to-see-me-dead-a-9f830d70-297a-472a-b0cc-9632ff2f514a | Source: Spiegel | Jul 23 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spiegel.de | Panama Papers Whistleblower: "The Russian Government Wants To See Me Dead" - DER SPIEGEL | Jul 23 11:14 | |
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| techrights-news | [Old] "The mayor of Bogotá, Colombia, Enrique is perhaps the world’s most transit-friendly politician." ☛ https://site.transitapp.com/a-developed-country-is-not-a-place-where-the-poor-have-cars-65cbd7eb6def/ | | Jul 23 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-site.transitapp.com | The Man Behind Transit App’s Mantra – Transit | Jul 23 11:17 | |
| techrights-news | "In May I wrote Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, based on Paul Butler's The problem with bitcoin miners" ☛ https://blog.dshr.org/2022/07/mining-news.html | Source: David Rosenthal | Jul 23 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: Mining News | Jul 23 11:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Permissionless cryptocurrencies were designed to evade regulation, so fighting them on their own "decentralized" ground isn't a winning strategy." ☛ https://blog.dshr.org/2022/07/calls-for-cryptocurrency-regulation.html | Source: David Rosenthal | Jul 23 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: Calls For Cryptocurrency Regulation | Jul 23 11:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Social media posts are sharing a century-old report on the warming of the Arctic Ocean to question the science of climate change." ☛ https://today.rtl.lu/news/fact-check/a/1943759.html | Source: RTL | Jul 23 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Fact Check: Century-old Arctic report altered to discredit global warming | Jul 23 11:20 | |
| techuser | MinceR: I did ask frankenstein about jesus. He said he wrote about him in his book, somewhere at https://executingreality.com | Jul 23 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-executingreality.com | Executing Reality | Jul 23 11:20 | |
| techrights-news | Philanthropy only attacks the symptoms ☛ https://rubenerd.com/philanthropy-only-attacks-the-symptoms/ | Source: Ruben Schade | Jul 23 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Philanthropy only attacks the symptoms | Jul 23 11:23 | |
| techrights-news | XIAO ESP32C3 ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-esp32-c3-devkit-supports-rust/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jul 23 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-esp32-c3-devkit-supports-rust/ ) | Jul 23 11:30 | |
| techrights-news | Cortex-A55 ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-router-dev-board-is-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3588-dual-gbe-and-8gb-ram/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jul 23 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-router-dev-board-is-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3588-dual-gbe-and-8gb-ram/ ) | Jul 23 11:30 | |
| techrights-news | "Is Ethical Advertising Possible?" ☛ https://puri.sm/posts/purisms-ethical-marketing-principles/ | Source: Purism | Jul 23 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Purism's Ethical Marketing Principles – Purism | Jul 23 11:35 | |
| techrights-news | "The Humble Deck Builder Bundle has gone live and it's another that offers some pretty interesting choices" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/the-humble-deck-builder-bundle-is-live-heres-what-works-on-linux-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Humble Deck Builder Bundle is live, here's what works on Linux & Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:39 | |
| techrights-news | "MultiVersus is a very exciting one that has a look of people talking right now." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/looks-like-upcoming-brawler-multiversus-works-great-on-steam-deck-a-linux-desktop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Looks like upcoming brawler MultiVersus works great on Steam Deck & Linux desktop | GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:40 | |
| techrights-news | "Not afraid of Spiders? Love a good 3D platformer?" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/a-webbing-journey-is-an-upcoming-wholesome-3d-puzzle-platformer/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Webbing Journey is an upcoming wholesome 3D puzzle platformer | GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:40 | |
| techrights-news | "GameMode, the system optimization tool from Feral Interactive recently had a new small release put up." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/gamemode-performance-tool-from-feral-interactive-version-17-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GameMode performance tool from Feral Interactive version 1.7 is out now | GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:40 | |
| techrights-news | "It's taken quite a while but you can at least now play Halo Infinite multiplayer on Steam Deck (single-player not tested)." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/you-can-now-get-halo-infinite-online-to-work-on-the-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You can now get Halo Infinite online to work on the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Jul 23 11:40 | |
| techrights-news | IBM fluff ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/design-thinking-open-source-teams | Source: OpenSource.com | Jul 23 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Design Thinking is a box office hit for open source teams | Opensource.com | Jul 23 11:41 | |
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| techrights-news | SweatshopZone ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/22/sanders-joins-chorus-demanding-rejection-amazons-one-medical-purchase | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 23 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Joins Chorus Demanding Rejection of Amazon's One Medical Purchase | Jul 23 11:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Facebook and Newsguard" = censorship agenda for the oligarchy ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/22/did-lawmakers-finally-figure-out-that-critical-news-literacy-is-the-antidote-to-disinformation/ | Source: Counter Punch | Jul 23 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Did Lawmakers Finally Figure Out That Critical News Literacy is the Antidote to Disinformation? - CounterPunch.org | Jul 23 11:54 | |
| techrights-news | "Not only is he a compulsive liar, an arrogant, spoilt misogynist, he and his gaggle are completely incompetent" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/22/poverty-division-democratic-destruction-the-johnson-legacy/ | Source: Counter Punch | Jul 23 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Poverty Division Democratic Destruction: The Johnson Legacy - CounterPunch.org | Jul 23 11:55 | |
| techrights-news | Poverty... while the state 'bails out' BILLIONAIRES! ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/22/bad-news-biden-administration-delays-relief-plan-low-income-borrowers | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 23 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Bad News': Biden Administration Delays Relief Plan for Low-Income Borrowers | Jul 23 12:05 | |
| techrights-news | The EPO’s Misguided and Misleading Approach to Software Patenting, Disguised Using Disingenuous Newspeak and Buzzwords | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/propaganda-on-the-blockchain/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/propaganda-on-the-blockchain/ | Jul 23 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Misguided and Misleading Approach to Software Patenting, Disguised Using Disingenuous Newspeak and Buzzwords | Techrights | Jul 23 12:13 | |
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| techrights-news | "I guess we're seeing more *Dwarf Fortress* style games." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-23%20Solo%20Dungeon%20Development | Jul 23 12:28 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 23 12:30 |
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| techrights-news | UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/covid-19-soon-a-million-patients/ | Jul 23 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on | Jul 23 12:44 | |
| MinceR | 23 122058 < techuser> MinceR: I did ask frankenstein about jesus. He said he wrote about him in his book, somewhere at https://executingreality.com | Jul 23 12:46 |
| MinceR | that site looks a lot like the timecube site | Jul 23 12:46 |
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| techrights-news | "They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum / And they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see them" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/22/capitalisms-practicality-while-we-bake-death | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 23 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Capitalism's 'Practicality' While We Bake to Death | Tony Norman | Jul 23 12:58 | |
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| techrights-news | Dear Brit, don't worry about the person next to you on the train being a bomber or carrying a long knife but the person next to you having COVID-19 because it's statistically obvious what's far more like to kill you https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/covid-19-soon-a-million-patients/ | Jul 23 13:01 |
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| techrights-news | Anita Was Right gemini://idiomdrottning.org/anita | Jul 23 13:27 |
| techrights-news | How to use sshfs on OpenBSD gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-sshfs.gmi | Jul 23 13:28 |
| techrights-news | Games: Duke Nukem II on OpenPOWER, The Humble Deck Builder Bundle, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167559 | Jul 23 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Duke Nukem II on OpenPOWER, The Humble Deck Builder Bundle, and More | Tux Machines | Jul 23 13:35 | |
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| XRevan86 | britney: "quantum entanglement" <- "How to offend a physicist”. | Jul 23 14:29 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] The Portuguese Pretender | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/the-portuguese-dual-national/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/the-portuguese-dual-national/ | Jul 23 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Portuguese Pretender | Techrights | Jul 23 14:31 | |
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| techrights-news | [Meme/Video] Covering Up the (EPO) President’s Coup and Illegal Actions | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/trumpinos-tantrump/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/trumpinos-tantrump/ | Jul 23 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme/Video] Covering Up the (EPO) President’s Coup and Illegal Actions | Techrights | Jul 23 15:00 | |
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| techrights-news | UK Government Advice on COVID-19 is a Hoax (Pretending It's No Longer a Peril That Costs Many Lives) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/safely-with-covid/ | Jul 23 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK Government Advice on COVID-19 is a Hoax (Pretending It’s No Longer a Peril That Costs Many Lives) | Jul 23 15:14 | |
| techrights-news | Nihilists in positions of power, buckling for lobbyists https://yle.fi/news/3-12548445 | Jul 23 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | MTV: Top doc in Finland wants to remove Covid from dangerous disease list | News | Yle Uutiset | Jul 23 15:15 | |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] “Back to Normal” Just Means Adoption of Nihilism or Mass Culling of the ‘Weak’ (Old People Who Typically Enjoyed Pensions) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/got-covid-meme/ | Jul 23 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » [Meme] “Back to Normal” Just Means Adoption of Nihilism or Mass Culling of the ‘Weak’ (Old People Who Typically Enjoyed Pensions) | Jul 23 15:22 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 23 15:30 |
| XRevan86 | https://reuters.com/world/europe/hungarys-orban-calls-new-eu-strategy-ukraine-war-says-sanctions-failed-2022-07-23/ | Jul 23 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Orban urges new EU strategy on Ukraine, says sanctions have failed | Reuters | Jul 23 15:46 | |
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| techrights-news | So-called "trade" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/22/prevent-another-tpp-100-groups-call-transparent-negotiations-indo-pacific-trade-deal | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 23 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | To Prevent 'Another' TPP, 100+ Groups Call for Transparent Negotiations on Indo-Pacific Trade Deal | Jul 23 16:03 | |
| techrights-news | Graaaaaaaaiins... ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/22/beacon-hope-un-chief-lauds-deal-export-20-million-tons-ukrainian-grain | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 23 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'A Beacon of Hope': UN Chief Lauds Deal to Export 20+ Million Tons of Ukrainian Grain | Jul 23 16:03 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/23/dirt-decay-and-bitter-cold "Ukrainian volunteers held captive for more than 100 days describe harrowing conditions inside ‘filtration’ prison near Donetsk" | Jul 23 16:15 |
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| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/23/ukraine-russia-attacks-odesas-sea-port-with-kalibr-missiles-news "Ukraine: Russia attacks Odesa’s sea port with Kalibr missiles" | Jul 23 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jul 23 16:16 | |
| XRevan86 | https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/23/a78388 | Jul 23 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | ‘Panama Papers’ Whistleblower Says Russia ‘Wants Me Dead’ - The Moscow Times | Jul 23 16:17 | |
| XRevan86 | https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/23/7359802/ | Jul 23 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pravda.com.ua | Rocket strike on Kropyvnytskyi: 3 killed and 16 wounded | Ukrainska Pravda | Jul 23 16:17 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.salon.com/2022/07/23/cells-become-zombies-when-the-ends-of-their-chromosomes-are-damaged_partner/ | Jul 23 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cells become zombies when the ends of their chromosomes are damaged | Salon.com | Jul 23 16:27 | |
| techrights-news | "EFF’s ability to catalog known uses of CSS and other surveillance equipment" ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/police-are-still-abusing-investigative-exemptions-shield-surveillance-tech-while-0 | Source: EFF | Jul 23 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Police Are Still Abusing Investigative Exemptions to Shield Surveillance Tech, While Others Move Towards Transparency | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 23 16:43 | |
| techrights-news | UK 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths Was One Month Ago, Based on New Figures https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/uk-200000-covid-19-deaths/ | Jul 23 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths Was One Month Ago, Based on New Figures | Jul 23 16:49 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04853-4 | Jul 23 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dynamical topological phase realized in a trapped-ion quantum simulator | Nature | Jul 23 16:57 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/shift_workers_can't | Jul 23 17:02 |
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| techrights-news | SpellBinding: AEIUQTL Wordo: TIERS gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi | Jul 23 17:18 |
| techrights-news | Some thoughts on Vala gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/some_thoughts_on_vala.gmi | Jul 23 17:18 |
| techrights-news | NHS Summer Figures Compared (COVID-19 in 2020, 2021, and 2022) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/apples-to-apples/ | Jul 23 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » NHS Summer Figures Compared (COVID-19 in 2020, 2021, and 2022) | Jul 23 17:25 | |
| techrights-news | EFF wrote this while endorsing Microsoft surveillance by DuckDuckGo. Disgrace? ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/americans-deserve-more-current-american-data-privacy-protection-act | Source: EFF | Jul 23 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Americans Deserve More Than The Current American Data Privacy Protection Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 23 17:27 | |
| techrights-news | the usual: requestion own focus while on vacation gemini://luka.smol.pub/1658588727 | Jul 23 17:30 |
| techrights-news | "There's so much bad stuff going on in the world right now. Apart from war (in Ukraine and other parts of the world) and pandemic (COVID19), there's looming and increasingly unavoidable planetary catastrophe incoming anyway." gemini://luka.smol.pub/1658588727 | Jul 23 17:31 |
| techrights-news | "Internet service providers are to facilitate the work of law enforcement agencies" ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/07/22/council-and-parliament-negotiations-eu-laws-on-e-evidence-reportedly-on-the-home-straight/ | Source: Site36 | Jul 23 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Council and Parliament negotiations: EU laws on „E-Evidence“ reportedly on the home straight – Security Architectures in the EU | Jul 23 17:38 | |
| techrights-news | "In search of answers, we looked at past research, notably Andrea Wallace’s Barriers to Open Access" ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/07/22/what-are-the-barriers-to-open-culture-heres-what-the-cc-community-has-to-say/ | Source: Creative Commons | Jul 23 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | What are the barriers to open culture? Here’s what the CC community has to say - Creative Commons | Jul 23 17:39 | |
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| techrights-news | "St. Petersburg opposition politician Sergey Troshin" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/22/someone-will-always-say-it-s-the-wrong-time | Source: Meduza | Jul 23 17:41 |
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| techrights-news | On copyrights ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/phishing-attacks-on-wordpress-site-owners-disguised-as-copyright-infringement-warnings/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phishing Attacks On WordPress Site Owners Disguised As Copyright Infringement Warnings | Techdirt | Jul 23 17:42 | |
| techrights-news | One America News (OAN) ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/verizon-gives-oan-the-axe-upsetting-the-six-people-who-still-watch-the-channel/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Verizon Gives OAN The Axe, Upsetting The Six People Who Still Watch The Channel | Techdirt | Jul 23 17:43 | |
| techrights-news | On surveillance ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/22/surveillance-is-pervasive-yes-you-are-being-watched-even-if-no-one-is-looking-for-you/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 23 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Surveillance Is Pervasive: Yes, You Are Being Watched, Even if No One is Looking For You – scheerpost.com | Jul 23 17:47 | |
| techrights-news | Ontario ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/22/international-students-in-ontario-are-fighting-wage-theft-and-winning/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 23 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-International Students in Ontario Are Fighting Wage Theft—And Winning – scheerpost.com | Jul 23 17:48 | |
| techrights-news | "the right to record police" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/22/video-mainstream-media-says-copwatchers-are-a-menace-heres-why-theyre-wrong/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 23 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VIDEO: Mainstream Media Says Copwatchers Are a Menace—Here’s Why They’re Wrong – scheerpost.com | Jul 23 17:48 | |
| techrights-news | Tackling disinformation ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/22/did-lawmakers-finally-figure-out-that-critical-news-literacy-is-antidote-to-disinformation/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 23 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Did Lawmakers Finally Figure Out That Critical News Literacy is Antidote to Disinformation? – scheerpost.com | Jul 23 17:49 | |
| techrights-news | NSO Group ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/us-defense-contractor-l3harris-drops-plan-to-buy-nso-group-despite-allegedly-having-the-defense-departments-backing/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Defense Contractor L3Harris Drops Plan To Buy NSO Group Despite Allegedly Having The Defense Department’s Backing | Techdirt | Jul 23 17:52 | |
| techrights-news | "Russian forces detained 32 Ukrainian volunteers who had been providing humanitarian aid" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/23/dirt-decay-and-bitter-cold | Source: Meduza | Jul 23 17:53 |
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| techrights-news | Social control media is shit. The public realises this. More and more over time. TechDirt pushes back. No idea why this insistence... ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/polling-the-public-about-social-media-policies-turns-up-nothing-particularly-useful/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polling The Public About Social Media Policies Turns Up Nothing Particularly Useful | Techdirt | Jul 23 17:54 | |
| techrights-news | "Not every crime is linked to a cell phone," ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/court-suppresses-phone-search-telling-cops-a-warrant-with-no-probable-cause-is-like-having-no-warrant-at-all/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Suppresses Phone Search, Telling Cops A Warrant With No Probable Cause Is Like Having No Warrant At All | Techdirt | Jul 23 17:55 | |
| techrights-news | "In a world where game consoles come with ever-higher resolutions and ever-faster frame rates" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/hunt-the-lunpus-is-an-attiny-based-minimalist-game-console/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 23 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hunt The Lunpus Is An ATtiny-Based Minimalist Game Console | Hackaday | Jul 23 17:55 | |
| techrights-news | Wikipedia IS biased. We know in whose favour. ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/23/you-get-used-to-it | Source: Meduza | Jul 23 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Jul 23 17:56 | |
| techrights-news | "The holy grail of computing is to have some way to distribute a program to any computer." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/color-us-impressed-redbean-runs-a-web-server-on-six-operating-systems/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 23 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Color Us Impressed: Redbean Runs A Web Server On Six Operating Systems | Hackaday | Jul 23 17:57 | |
| techrights-news | Uber should stop existing ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/uber-leak-economists/ | Source: The Nation | Jul 23 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Best Economists Uber Could Buy | The Nation | Jul 23 18:03 | |
| techrights-news | Biden is black. Coal and oil. ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/fires-climate-biden/ | Source: The Nation | Jul 23 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Biden Is All Talk as Fires Take Over the American West | The Nation | Jul 23 18:04 | |
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| techrights-news | Patents and monopolies ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/insulin-prices-democrats/ | Source: The Nation | Jul 23 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Democrats Are Fumbling Their Chance to Make Insulin More Affordable | The Nation | Jul 23 18:12 | |
| techrights-news | "It seems like [Mordechai Guri]’s lab at Ben-Gurion University is the place where air-gapped computers go to die," ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/satan-turns-hard-drive-cable-into-antenna-to-defeat-air-gapped-security/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 23 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SATAn Turns Hard Drive Cable Into Antenna To Defeat Air-Gapped Security | Hackaday | Jul 23 18:13 | |
| techrights-news | "Telecom lobbyists are exploiting the creation of a new federal privacy bill" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/new-federal-privacy-bill-further-erodes-fcc-oversight-of-big-telecom-you-know-for-freedom-or-whatever/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Federal Privacy Bill Further Erodes FCC Oversight Of Big Telecom. You Know, For Freedom Or Whatever. | Techdirt | Jul 23 18:13 | |
| techrights-news | ESP32 ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/esp32-gets-a-nifty-serial-console-library/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 23 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ESP32 Gets A Nifty Serial Console Library | Hackaday | Jul 23 18:14 | |
| techrights-news | "Hackaday Editor-in-Chief Elliot Williams and Managing Editor Tom Nardi" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/hackaday-podcast-178-the-return-of-supercon-victory-for-open-source-exquisite-timepieces-and-documentation-to-die-for/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 23 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Podcast 178: The Return Of Supercon, Victory For Open Source, Exquisite Timepieces, And Documentation To Die For | Hackaday | Jul 23 18:15 | |
| techrights-news | "In 2010, the town of Fort Myers Beach, Florida passed an ordinance that banned portable signs." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/florida-towns-portable-sign-ban-shot-down-by-the-11th-circuit-appeals-court/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Florida Town’s Portable Sign Ban Shot Down By The 11th Circuit Appeals Court | Techdirt | Jul 23 18:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Watering the garden is important to do regularly if you want your plants to thrive." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/watering-the-garden-with-a-solar-powered-system/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 23 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watering The Garden With A Solar-Powered System | Hackaday | Jul 23 18:16 | |
| techrights-news | Under the guise (or hype) of “blockchain” and other nonsense the EPO has been pushing illegal European software patents, which it prefers to call “CII” (a deliberate deception and misnomer) http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/propaganda-on-the-blockchain/ | Jul 23 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Misguided and Misleading Approach to Software Patenting, Disguised Using Disingenuous Newspeak and Buzzwords | Techrights | Jul 23 18:19 | |
| techrights-news | The EPO has fallen into a vicious cycle of “capture” by corrupt officials looking to cover up their illegal acts, including bribery of those who appoint and reappoint new friends (“connections”) http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/the-portuguese-dual-national/ | Jul 23 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Portuguese Pretender | Techrights | Jul 23 18:20 | |
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| techrights-news | he EPO‘s “fucking president” (this is how António Campinos refers to himself) “cannot handle the truth”, so now he’s just blackmailing people who know what’s going on inside the Office http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/trumpinos-tantrump/ | Jul 23 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme/Video] Covering Up the (EPO) President’s Coup and Illegal Actions | Techrights | Jul 23 18:20 | |
| techrights-news | Distance, no contact https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/got-covid-meme/ | Jul 23 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » [Meme] “Back to Normal” Just Means Adoption of Nihilism or Mass Culling of the ‘Weak’ (Old People Who Typically Enjoyed Pensions) | Jul 23 18:21 | |
| techrights-news | Suggesting we should be “living safely with coronavirus (COVID-19).” What next? Living safely with AIDS? Boris? terrorism? Or radical religious bigots who preach violence? In the name of “tolerance”? https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/safely-with-covid/ | Jul 23 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK Government Advice on COVID-19 is a Hoax (Pretending It’s No Longer a Peril That Costs Many Lives) | Jul 23 18:21 | |
| techrights-news | Very soon a million patients and already more than 200,000 dead https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/covid-19-soon-a-million-patients/ | Jul 23 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on | Jul 23 18:21 | |
| techrights-news | Number of hospitalisations (severe cases of COVID-19) GREW TENFOLD from 2020 to 2022: https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/apples-to-apples/ | Jul 23 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » NHS Summer Figures Compared (COVID-19 in 2020, 2021, and 2022) | Jul 23 18:22 | |
| techrights-news | The media here did not even talk about it! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/uk-200000-covid-19-deaths/ | Jul 23 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths Was One Month Ago, Based on New Figures | Jul 23 18:23 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 23 18:30 |
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| techrights-news | Links 23/07/2022: FFmpeg 5.1 and KDE Reports | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/kde-reports/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/kde-reports/ | Jul 23 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/07/2022: FFmpeg 5.1 and KDE Reports | Techrights | Jul 23 18:36 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167560 | Jul 23 18:36 |
| techrights-news | Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Popcorn Computer, Purism, ESP32 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167561 | Jul 23 18:37 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167562 | Jul 23 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 18:37 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167563 | Jul 23 18:37 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167564 | Jul 23 18:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Popcorn Computer, Purism, ESP32 | Tux Machines | Jul 23 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 23 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 18:38 | |
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| matey | wow https://nm.debian.org/person/marks/ | Jul 23 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nm.debian.org | Debian New Member Process | Jul 23 19:01 | |
| matey | last month, and still | Jul 23 19:01 |
| matey | oh, i think pocock fucked up (on a detail) | Jul 23 19:01 |
| matey | Mark Shuttleworth resigns from Debian: volunteer suicide and Albania questions unanswered, mass resignations continue | Jul 23 19:02 |
| matey | July 21, 2022im not sure thats accurate | Jul 23 19:02 |
| matey | or maybe i just dont understand latin | Jul 23 19:03 |
| matey | ahh, its because i dont understand latin | Jul 23 19:03 |
| matey | emeritus: [noun] a person retired from professional life but permitted to retain as an honorary title | Jul 23 19:03 |
| matey | so like stallman | Jul 23 19:03 |
| matey | fsf emeritus | Jul 23 19:03 |
| matey | mark shuttleworth Status Debian Developer, emeritus since 2022-07-21 | Jul 23 19:04 |
| matey | to paraphrase an old soviet joke | Jul 23 19:05 |
| matey | stallman pretends he still works there, and the staff pretend to still work for him | Jul 23 19:05 |
| matey | just like they lay down and pretend theyre still fighting for us | Jul 23 19:07 |
| matey | tbh i always wondered what emeritus means | Jul 23 19:08 |
| matey | its a very useful word in this... community | Jul 23 19:08 |
| matey | i knew it was honourary but... that probably should have been a clue actually | Jul 23 19:09 |
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| britney | https://it.slashdot.org/story/22/07/23/1716258/twitter-data-breach-exposes-contact-details-for-54m-accounts-on-sale-for-30k | Jul 23 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.slashdot.org | Twitter Data Breach Exposes Contact Details for 5.4M Accounts, on Sale for $30K - Slashdot | Jul 23 20:31 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://t2sde.org/ | Jul 23 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t2sde.org | T2 SDE - The Open System Development Environment | Jul 23 21:17 | |
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| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/funny-pictures-7-4-22-13.jpg | Jul 23 21:32 |
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| techrights-news | Good Languages, Bad Programmers gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/good-languages-bad-programmers.gmi | Jul 23 22:25 |
| techrights-news | When programmers wrote bad code https://www.hardwaretimes.com/intel-linux-driver-patch-brings-a-whopping-100x-performance-uplift-in-ray-traced-vulkan-titles/ | Jul 23 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hardwaretimes.com | Intel Linux Driver Patch Brings a Whopping 100x Performance Uplift in Ray-Traced Vulkan Titles | Hardware Times | Jul 23 22:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | britney: karma for illegally collecting phon enumbers etc. | Jul 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I hope they get another massive fines and close shop | Jul 23 22:38 |
| techrights-news | Latest performance tests show Ubuntu 22.04 with Linux 5.19 creeping up on Windows 11 fast - Neowin ⚓ https://www.neowin.net/news/latest-performance-tests-show-ubuntu-2204-with-linux-519-creeping-up-on-windows-11-fast/ ䷉ Source: neowin | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.neowin.net/news/latest-performance-tests-show-ubuntu-2204-with-linux-519-creeping-up-on-windows-11-fast/ | Jul 23 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Latest performance tests show Ubuntu 22.04 with Linux 5.19 creeping up on Windows 11 fast - Neowin | Jul 23 22:40 | |
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| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167565 | Jul 23 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:41 | |
| techrights-news | Detectree: Open-source tool simplifies data analysis for blue teams, reduces alert fatigue - Help Net Security ⚓ https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/07/22/detectree-open-source-tool/ ䷉ Source: helpnetsecurity | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/07/22/detectree-open-source-tool/ | Jul 23 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Detectree: Open-source tool simplifies data analysis for blue teams, reduces alert fatigue - Help Net Security | Jul 23 22:41 | |
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| techrights-news | PostgreSQL: pgAdmin User Survey ⚓ https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgadmin-user-survey-2487/ ䷉ Source: postgresql | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgadmin-user-survey-2487/ | Jul 23 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pgAdmin User Survey | Jul 23 22:43 | |
| techrights-news | "The Coroot team is happy to announce coroot-pg-agent – an open-source (Apache 2.0) Postgres exporter for Prometheus focusing on query performance statistics." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/coroot-pg-agent-an-open-source-postgres-exporter-for-prometheus-2488/ | Jul 23 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Coroot-pg-agent - an open-source Postgres exporter for Prometheus | Jul 23 22:43 | |
| techrights-news | "The Relational Riverside Rumble will pit one of the world’s best PostgreSQL DBAs against OtterTune’s AI-powered PostgreSQL tuning algorithms, originally developed at Carnegie Mellon University." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/human-vs-ottertune-ai-postgresql-tuning-contest-10000-cash-prize-2485/ | Jul 23 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Human vs. OtterTune AI PostgreSQL tuning contest. $10,000 cash prize | Jul 23 22:44 | |
| techrights-news | Should LINUX DISTROS still PACKAGE applications? The problem with UNOFFICIAL packages - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=j0IhajCNs14 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/j0IhajCNs14 | Jul 23 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Should LINUX DISTROS still PACKAGE applications? The problem with UNOFFICIAL packages - Invidious | Jul 23 22:46 | |
| techrights-news | Kaisen Linux 2.1 Quick overview #linux #KaisenLinux #Shorts - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jGz92fy9I-A | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/jGz92fy9I-A | Jul 23 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Kaisen Linux 2.1 Quick overview #linux #KaisenLinux #Shorts - Invidious | Jul 23 22:46 | |
| techrights-news | The Zorin OS editions explained - Real Linux User ⚓ https://www.reallinuxuser.com/the-zorin-os-editions-explained/ ䷉ Source: reallinuxuser | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.reallinuxuser.com/the-zorin-os-editions-explained/ | Jul 23 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reallinuxuser.com | The Zorin OS editions explained - Real Linux User | Jul 23 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | PostgreSQL: pgAdmin, coroot-pg-agent, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167566 | Jul 23 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL: pgAdmin, coroot-pg-agent, and More | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | Are we finally post-COVID thanks to Paxlovid? - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/23/are-we-finally-post-covid-thanks-to-paxlovid/ ䷉ Source: baronhk | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/23/are-we-finally-post-covid-thanks-to-paxlovid/ | Jul 23 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Are we finally post-COVID thanks to Paxlovid? – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 23 22:49 | |
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| techrights-news | Business card-sized SBC ships with Intel Core Tiger Lake or AMD Ryzen V2000 processor - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/23/business-card-sized-sbc-ships-with-intel-core-tiger-lake-or-amd-ryzen-v2000-processor/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/23/business-card-sized-sbc-ships-with-intel-core-tiger-lake-or-amd-ryzen-v2000-processor/ | Jul 23 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Business card-sized SBC ships with Intel Core Tiger Lake or AMD Ryzen V2000 processor - CNX Software | Jul 23 23:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | Money buys a lot of things, like the ability to change history. | Jul 23 23:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: nice article | Jul 23 23:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | re seeamonkey | Jul 23 23:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I can see it's very long | Jul 23 23:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: history is the same | Jul 23 23:16 |
| matey | did they finally call it quits? | Jul 23 23:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you can bribe those who tell "history" | Jul 23 23:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/23/the-seamonkey-internet-suite-is-still-developed-is-it-right-for-you/ | Jul 23 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | The SeaMonkey Internet Suite is still developed. Is it right for you? – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 23 23:17 | |
| matey | anything thats based on mozilla has to prove to me that theyre capable of making it less like spyware | Jul 23 23:17 |
| matey | then on top of that they have to prove that its not done by an idiot like moonchild | Jul 23 23:18 |
| matey | and while theyre at it, they might as well not be using github | Jul 23 23:18 |
| techrights-news | Reminds me of Wikileaks cablegate, where we saw US ambassadors lobbying for MICROSOFT (while US gov. pays the salary) by crushing GNU/Linux overseas https://www.news24.com/news24/africa/news/new-us-ambassador-to-sa-pledges-to-promote-ubuntu-diplomacy-20220723 | Jul 23 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New US ambassador to SA pledges to promote 'Ubuntu diplomacy' | News24 | Jul 23 23:19 | |
| matey | id rather not use anything based on mozilla at all | Jul 23 23:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | what do you use? | Jul 23 23:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like, for banks? | Jul 23 23:19 |
| matey | but chromium and mozilla derivs have it locked down | Jul 23 23:19 |
| matey | for banks? | Jul 23 23:19 |
| matey | i go to the bank | Jul 23 23:19 |
| matey | online banking is only better than online voting | Jul 23 23:19 |
| matey | no thanks | Jul 23 23:20 |
| matey | its not that most people will ever lose money | Jul 23 23:20 |
| matey | i simply think online banking is a bad idea | Jul 23 23:20 |
| matey | in a world where we had better security by default? | Jul 23 23:20 |
| matey | where corporations didnt run everything? | Jul 23 23:20 |
| matey | we might not even need online banking | Jul 23 23:20 |
| matey | but in this world we are actually in? no way | Jul 23 23:20 |
| matey | not for me | Jul 23 23:20 |
| techrights-news | FSD meeting recap 2022-07-15 " Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software ⚓ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory/fsd-meeting-recap-2022-07-15 also: ttps://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory/fsd-meeting-recap-2022-07-22 | Jul 23 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSD meeting recap 2022-07-15 — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Jul 23 23:21 | |
| matey | and im a peon | Jul 23 23:21 |
| matey | if i had REAL banking needs | Jul 23 23:21 |
| matey | then id still go into a bank | Jul 23 23:21 |
| matey | because then theyre nice to you | Jul 23 23:21 |
| matey | but im nobody and i still go | Jul 23 23:21 |
| techrights-news | FSF outsourced its official debate platform to a network where some staff signed an anti-RMS defamation letter | Jul 23 23:21 |
| techrights-news | Datamash is a command-line program which performs basic numeric, textual and statistical operations on input textual data." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10212 | Jul 23 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Datamash - News: GNU Datamash 1.8 released [Savannah] | Jul 23 23:22 | |
| matey | somewhere in between theres banking by phone | Jul 23 23:22 |
| matey | but there are a few issues with that | Jul 23 23:22 |
| matey | im not sure its better than online banking-- in some ways its not (because enabling one enables the other) | Jul 23 23:23 |
| matey | (depending on your bank) | Jul 23 23:23 |
| techrights-news | GNOME at 25: A Health Checkup • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167567 | Jul 23 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME at 25: A Health Checkup | Tux Machines | Jul 23 23:23 | |
| matey | its another option, one i still dont need | Jul 23 23:23 |
| matey | but its worth considering i guess | Jul 23 23:23 |
| techrights-news | Gemipedia now supports all languages! gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-07-23-multi-language-gemipedia.gmi | Jul 23 23:23 |
| matey | online banking is a convenience really | Jul 23 23:24 |
| matey | id say its less important than having a car | Jul 23 23:24 |
| matey | and lots of people dont have cars | Jul 23 23:24 |
| techrights-news | "Recently I was talking to Greta about wikis. Well, I guess we were talking about many different things, including collaboration. She was wondering about the feasibility of a "hypertext network for friends" that I had mentioned wishing for a while back" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-23%20Collaborating%20on%20small%20things | Jul 23 23:24 |
| matey | some people "need" it (and some need a car) | Jul 23 23:24 |
| matey | as for what browser i think people should use for online banking-- i dont | Jul 23 23:25 |
| matey | i know some people are going to do online banking, and they accept the risks | Jul 23 23:25 |
| matey | and some browsers are more secure than the others, but theyre only as secure as the user makes them | Jul 23 23:26 |
| matey | you click / install the wrong thing, you do the wrong thing, you type your pin into the wrong thing | Jul 23 23:26 |
| matey | you even punch your pin into an atm that has the wrong thing attached to it | Jul 23 23:27 |
| matey | and your security is done | Jul 23 23:27 |
| matey | statistically, most people will be fine | Jul 23 23:27 |
| matey | in terms of responsibility, fewer people should use online banking, at least | Jul 23 23:27 |
| matey | like a mobile phone, its part "necessity" and part gimmick | Jul 23 23:28 |
| matey | most people who think they need it only think so | Jul 23 23:28 |
| matey | some must be "right" | Jul 23 23:28 |
| matey | out of people who get "hit" how many will go back to using online banking after that? | Jul 23 23:29 |
| matey | i dont know | Jul 23 23:29 |
| matey | some will stop there | Jul 23 23:29 |
| britney | brave is a nice browser | Jul 23 23:31 |
| britney | matey, what browser do you use on openbsd? | Jul 23 23:31 |
| matey | tor browser mostly | Jul 23 23:31 |
| britney | nice | Jul 23 23:31 |
| matey | by no means do i think it is magic bullet | Jul 23 23:31 |
| matey | all browsers are shit | Jul 23 23:31 |
| matey | and the web should be deprecated | Jul 23 23:31 |
| britney | thats unlikely to ever happen | Jul 23 23:32 |
| matey | but whats a better way to wean yourself off the web than using a browser that the web hates to work with | Jul 23 23:32 |
| matey | its one of the few mozilla forks that isnt github-based | Jul 23 23:33 |
| techrights-news | The SeaMonkey Internet Suite is Still Developed. Is it Right for You? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/seamonkey-reviewed/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/seamonkey-reviewed/ | Jul 23 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The SeaMonkey Internet Suite is Still Developed. Is it Right for You? | Techrights | Jul 23 23:33 | |
| matey | sadly they signed the anti-rms letter but so did mozilla, so id rather use one than both | Jul 23 23:33 |
| matey | and mozilla are more evil than tor for MANY reasons | Jul 23 23:33 |
| matey | mozilla lies about privacy | Jul 23 23:33 |
| matey | tor probably does too-- but there are usages that back up the claims | Jul 23 23:33 |
| matey | SOME of the claims | Jul 23 23:34 |
| britney | matey, you won't use software if its on github? | Jul 23 23:34 |
| matey | i know roy disputes this | Jul 23 23:34 |
| matey | i think he protests too much, he could be right, but im sceptical | Jul 23 23:34 |
| matey | i dont think tor is bulletproof | Jul 23 23:34 |
| matey | i avoid software thats based on github as much as any person reasonably can | Jul 23 23:34 |
| britney | tor is better than nothing | Jul 23 23:34 |
| matey | i defy anyone to go to greater lengths to avoid it than i have | Jul 23 23:34 |
| matey | indeed, it would be very happy if people made github more of an option, and less of a monopoly | Jul 23 23:35 |
| matey | github-based stuff is in every level of the stack | Jul 23 23:35 |
| matey | right down to the programming languages themselves | Jul 23 23:35 |
| matey | exceptions exist-- not many | Jul 23 23:35 |
| matey | github controls more than half of free software | Jul 23 23:36 |
| techrights-news | Fairphone: Five years of responsible gold https://www.fairphone.com/en/2022/07/22/five-years-of-responsible-gold/ | Jul 23 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Five years of responsible gold - Fairphone | Jul 23 23:36 | |
| matey | maybe more than 75% | Jul 23 23:36 |
| britney | yeah thats why I asked | Jul 23 23:36 |
| matey | i wouldnt be shocked if it was 90, but there are many ways to count | Jul 23 23:36 |
| matey | a microsoft monopoly will NEVER be freedom | Jul 23 23:36 |
| matey | the fsf lies | Jul 23 23:36 |
| matey | theyre not even the fsf anymore | Jul 23 23:36 |
| techrights-news | Steam Deck: The Ratio of Verified Titles is Falling. What’s Happening? - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-the-ratio-of-verified-titles-is-falling-whats-happening/ ䷉ Source: boilingsteam | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-the-ratio-of-verified-titles-is-falling-whats-happening/ | Jul 23 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Steam Deck: The Ratio of Verified Titles is Falling. What's Happening? - Boiling Steam | Jul 23 23:37 | |
| matey | and the rate at which people leave is NOT that impressive | Jul 23 23:37 |
| matey | but i am hopeful for the long run-- right now, its not great | Jul 23 23:37 |
| techuser | I doubt it will become better | Jul 23 23:38 |
| matey | and anyone who tells you its getting (significantly) better is probably full of shit (for now) | Jul 23 23:38 |
| britney | the fsf lies? about what? | Jul 23 23:38 |
| matey | everything! | Jul 23 23:38 |
| matey | theyre completely full of crap now | Jul 23 23:38 |
| matey | just marketing. theyre not the fsf. | Jul 23 23:38 |
| matey | theyre as much about free software and stallman | Jul 23 23:38 |
| matey | as lf is about linux and torvalds | Jul 23 23:38 |
| matey | (at least they actually run gnu, unlike lf) | Jul 23 23:39 |
| matey | (so thats a slight exaggeration) | Jul 23 23:39 |
| matey | lf runs a mac and says they promote linux | Jul 23 23:39 |
| matey | its so sad | Jul 23 23:39 |
| matey | <techuser> I doubt it will become better <- i think youre actually more pessimistic than i am, about a number of things | Jul 23 23:40 |
| techrights-news | Getting Stuck and Unstuck - Gulag Summer of Labour post #8 https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/gsoc-22/getting-stuck-and-unstuck/ | Jul 23 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-snehit.dev | Getting Stuck and Unstuck - GSoC'22 post #8 | Jul 23 23:40 | |
| matey | it took a fuckload of work to become as optimistic as i am :) | Jul 23 23:40 |
| techrights-news | Returning to Hacker Summer Camp · System Overlord ⚓ https://systemoverlord.com/2022/07/20/returning-to-hacker-summer-camp.html ䷉ Source: systemoverlord | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//systemoverlord.com/2022/07/20/returning-to-hacker-summer-camp.html | Jul 23 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemoverlord.com | Returning to Hacker Summer Camp · System Overlord | Jul 23 23:40 | |
| matey | which is hilarious, because most people still (with pretty good reason) consider me a pessimist | Jul 23 23:40 |
| matey | and theyre probably right. but pessimists can be optimists too | Jul 23 23:41 |
| matey | i mean pessimists can be optimistic | Jul 23 23:41 |
| techrights-news | GNU Datamash 1.8 and the FSF’s FSD Meetings • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167568 | Jul 23 23:41 |
| matey | (a lot of pessimists are very closeted optimists) | Jul 23 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Datamash 1.8 and the FSF's FSD Meetings | Tux Machines | Jul 23 23:41 | |
| techrights-news | Soil Moisture Sensor with Arduino Uno ⚓ https://peppe8o.com/soil-moisture-sensor-with-arduino-uno/ ䷉ Source: peppe8o | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peppe8o.com/soil-moisture-sensor-with-arduino-uno/ | Jul 23 23:42 |
| matey | its not just one closet, its more like the opening theme of "get smart" | Jul 23 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Soil Moisture Sensor with Arduino Uno | Jul 23 23:42 | |
| techrights-news | Another diploma mill or a genuine thing, for a change? https://www.ridgecrestca.com/news/cerro-coso-to-launch-cloud-computing-and-linux-administration-certificates-this-fall/article_7d44b664-0863-11ed-b29c-bf55ebc78ee1.html | Jul 23 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cerro Coso to Launch Cloud Computing and Linux Administration certificates this fall | News | ridgecrestca.com | Jul 23 23:42 | |
| techrights-news | This Week in GNOME: #53 GUADEC 202 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167569 | Jul 23 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Week in GNOME: #53 GUADEC 202 | Tux Machines | Jul 23 23:42 | |
| matey | which is all over youtube, for anyone who hasnt seen it | Jul 23 23:43 |
| techrights-news | [git pull] drm fixes for 5.19-rc8 ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/165852047184.15752.15754098115255802753.pr-tracker-bot@kernel.org/T/#t ䷉ Source: kernel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/165852047184.15752.15754098115255802753.pr-tracker-bot@kernel.org/T/#t | Jul 23 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [git pull] drm fixes for 5.19-rc8 | Jul 23 23:43 | |
| techrights-news | Slashdot feels like it's run by "EditorDavid" from ZDNet now. Has ./ become Microsoft-funded media by extension??? | Jul 23 23:45 |
| matey | fun fact | Jul 23 23:45 |
| matey | the fsf doesnt actually know if youtube-dl is free software or not | Jul 23 23:46 |
| techrights-news | freedreno: Enable A619 https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=d3b38213e57533ec88a85fcf7b62671c711285a0 | Jul 23 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) | Jul 23 23:46 | |
| matey | some people think it runs non-free js | Jul 23 23:46 |
| matey | im not sure it does-- but its so convoluted, its that hard to say | Jul 23 23:46 |
| matey | i dont think running grep on non-free software counts as execution | Jul 23 23:47 |
| techrights-news | The coin-operated SJVN as stenographer for ICBM (relaying face-saving lies for them). Guess who pays for these articles. ICBM pays ZDNet (fact). http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167174#comment-34418 | Jul 23 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Changes CEO | Tux Machines | Jul 23 23:47 | |
| matey | so just putting information in js to be parsed shouldnt count as running non-free sw | Jul 23 23:47 |
| matey | but we dont conclusively know | Jul 23 23:47 |
| matey | the official position seems to be-- or the closest thing to one seems to be | Jul 23 23:48 |
| matey | its free until we know otherwise | Jul 23 23:48 |
| matey | but we still dont know | Jul 23 23:48 |
| techrights-news | Converting a Commodore PET into a USB docking station | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/22/converting-a-commodore-pet-into-a-usb-docking-station/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/22/converting-a-commodore-pet-into-a-usb-docking-station/ | Jul 23 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Converting a Commodore PET into a USB docking station | Arduino Blog | Jul 23 23:48 | |
| matey | also it changes constantly | Jul 23 23:48 |
| matey | because of the webapi | Jul 23 23:48 |
| matey | for this reason, they shouldnt assume rust is free either... | Jul 23 23:48 |
| matey | but they will | Jul 23 23:48 |
| matey | of course if rust isnt free, theyre fucked | Jul 23 23:48 |
| matey | so fully-free software will be replaced, of course, with politics | Jul 23 23:49 |
| matey | the worst kind of politics, the smarmy kind | Jul 23 23:49 |
| matey | the kind where if you touch it with a 10 foot pole, you wash your hands and throw away the pole | Jul 23 23:49 |
| matey | and the obviously leader of these smarmy politics from hell will be none other free sofware lucifer himself | Jul 23 23:50 |
| matey | bradley kuhn | Jul 23 23:50 |
| matey | thatll be fun | Jul 23 23:51 |
| matey | strap in, its going to be a fun decade (if we are lucky, only 5 years. ARE we?) | Jul 23 23:51 |
| matey | #stallmanwasright | Jul 23 23:52 |
| matey | when he said microsoft wasnt the "great satan" i was of course sceptical | Jul 23 23:52 |
| matey | but given what kuhn has done-- i understand why stallman said this | Jul 23 23:52 |
| matey | some things are even worse than microsoft | Jul 23 23:52 |
| matey | like sfc, i guess | Jul 23 23:53 |
| matey | though as far as actual visceral hate goes, im pretty sure microsoft will always be #1 for me (or close enough) | Jul 23 23:54 |
| techrights-news | Q4OS 4.9 is out. No update here yet: https://q4os.org/blog.html | Jul 23 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating system | Jul 23 23:54 | |
| matey | lets give him a chance though | Jul 23 23:54 |
| techrights-news | stdlib: Add arc4random, arc4random_buf, and arc4random_uniform (BZ #4417) https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=6f4e0fcfa2d2b0915816a3a3a1d48b4763a7dee2 | Jul 23 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceware.org Git - glibc.git/commit | Jul 23 23:55 | |
| matey | i mean, maybe someday he can top them | Jul 23 23:55 |
| matey | mjg says kuhn isnt... (i think hes jealous) | Jul 23 23:55 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | bkuhn studied CS IIRC | Jul 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | baltimore or something | Jul 23 23:56 |
| matey | mjg should take comfort in the fact that at least he doesnt look like penfold from dangermouse | Jul 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | bkuhn is not dumb | Jul 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he does not dislike free software | Jul 23 23:56 |
| matey | i didnt say dumb | Jul 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | what I don't like is, | Jul 23 23:56 |
| matey | i said he was free software lucifer | Jul 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | how he wanted to throw rms under the buss | Jul 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | to prop up his own shop, sfc | Jul 23 23:56 |
| matey | he does not dislike free software <- sfc <3 linux | Jul 23 23:57 |
| matey | he doesnt dislike it, but will destroy it for personal gain | Jul 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | this is why he was removed from fsf | Jul 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the board told hik to choose | Jul 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so he did | Jul 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and resighned | Jul 23 23:57 |
| matey | and then destroyed the fsf | Jul 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they were put under gag order at the time | Jul 23 23:57 |
| matey | with lots of help | Jul 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but I got sources | Jul 23 23:57 |
| matey | oh i assume most of that story is true | Jul 23 23:58 |
| matey | but that makes the title of lucifer fit that much more | Jul 23 23:58 |
| matey | i dont throw that around | Jul 23 23:58 |
| matey | i could, but i dont | Jul 23 23:58 |
| matey | if you want special titles that apply to very few people | Jul 23 23:59 |
| matey | you cant use them on everyone, right | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tbh I never quite like bkuhn for other reasons | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | his manners | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he felt very patronising in identica | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | barely replied to people | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and they agreed with me | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | when I pointed it out | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | even fsf volunteers | Jul 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he felt rather pretentious to them | Jul 23 23:59 |
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