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mateyand then to make it worse they used tatu as theme musicJul 22 00:00
mateyhopefully without permission, because-- wtfJul 22 00:00
bagiramatey: "company merger" </mike meyers voice>Jul 22 00:01
mateylolJul 22 00:01
bagira".....and that's why I'm banned on Libera."Jul 22 00:01
mateyputin and libera are racing to see who can ban the most before being destroyedJul 22 00:02
psydruidyou've been CoC-blockedJul 22 00:03
mateyits only a fair fight because their self-destructive tendencies are on par with their trigger fingersJul 22 00:03
bagiraive actually never once been subject to a CoC action, believe it or not psydruid Jul 22 00:03
matey/me never went to lieplanet because he thought they would pull the exact shit they finally did in 2019Jul 22 00:03
psydruidbagira, you're a better person than I am, that's whyJul 22 00:03
mateyi thought they would do it to someone unimporatantJul 22 00:04
mateybut theyre far more ambitiousJul 22 00:04
mateywhy have a hazard to a reasonable order of things, when you can actually use it as a weapon against a reasonable order of thingsJul 22 00:04
bagiraoh ive only seen CoC used for political reasons, ive never once seen anybody subject to a CoC action when it was notJul 22 00:05
mateycorporations like to appropriate things that other people inventedJul 22 00:05
mateythen monopolise themJul 22 00:05
mateycode of conquestJul 22 00:05
psydruidI've got the feeling that some channel owners/admins on Libera are looking for dirt on you in order to be able swing their CoCs and ban youJul 22 00:05
bagirapsydruid: oh i have no doubtJul 22 00:06
psydruidif that's your life's mission, be my guest, I should sayJul 22 00:06
bagirapsydruid: the funniest part is about it is they can't without doctoring logs, because all of their bullshit is completely fabricated.Jul 22 00:06
earthlingif libera is subverted by the same mindset as former freenode was... no need to register thereJul 22 00:06
earthlingyet didn't expect this to pop up in hereJul 22 00:07
mateyanyone who has a reasonable set of expectations for a community is preemptively banned when the coc goes into effectJul 22 00:07
earthlingdoesn't change anything relevant for meJul 22 00:08
mateythats because youre a delusional sociopath with a victim mentality who thinks hes the only person who can talk shit all day, and when someone else dishes it out for a change, he just whinges like a bitch to an arbitration committee that doesnt existJul 22 00:08
bagiramatey: thanks bud, luv you tooJul 22 00:08
mateyask mjg if he can help youJul 22 00:08
earthlingthe mainstream trends of where "free software" is heading, this was on topic, the coffin nails drilled into linux kernel and gcc for exampleJul 22 00:08
mateybagira, you know im not saying that to you, so youre just messing with me?Jul 22 00:09
earthlingsame with browsersJul 22 00:09
earthlingthen matey joined and distracted with his incitement and agitationJul 22 00:09
bagiramatey: hell, i have no idea who you're talking to, i thought you were drunkJul 22 00:09
mateybagira: earthling Jul 22 00:09
mateytheres really only three poeple i talk shit about in hereJul 22 00:10
mateyone you talk shit about too, another isnt important, and the third is this guy, who uses a new handle every day or twoJul 22 00:10
MinceR22 010651 < bagira> psydruid: the funniest part is about it is they can't without doctoring logs, because all of their bullshit is completely fabricated.Jul 22 00:11
MinceRoften they just read what wasn't written (or hear what wasn't said)Jul 22 00:11
MinceRlike in RMS' caseJul 22 00:11
mateythats the delusional partJul 22 00:11
bagirapsydruid: btw i strategically leave out some bait for them often for them to try to misuse that completely backfires on them design when they try to weaponize it Jul 22 00:11
bagira*on them by designJul 22 00:11
bagiralikeJul 22 00:12
bagirai've been at this a long time nowJul 22 00:12
bagiraand i play the long gameJul 22 00:12
mateyits the only one that can be wonJul 22 00:12
mateythese fucks have been at it for half a decade, if not a whole oneJul 22 00:13
earthlingwho? what at it?Jul 22 00:13
mateyearthling: i thought you understood everything thats going onJul 22 00:14
mateygiven that you know everythingJul 22 00:14
mateyso you already know whoJul 22 00:14
bagirathe lilo years were much better than the ones leading up to their fallJul 22 00:15
bagirabefore psychos got the reinsJul 22 00:16
mateyunderstandably, youre talking about ircJul 22 00:16
mateyi mean free softwareJul 22 00:16
mateywith libera theres overlapJul 22 00:16
mateyboth in the players and the objectiveJul 22 00:16
bagiraOFTC isn't any better btwJul 22 00:16
mateybut if you make it about irc, it really is, so thats fairJul 22 00:16
mateyno its notJul 22 00:17
earthlinganywayJul 22 00:19
bagirathe problem with OFTC is its all the same people, and factor in the impact of Tom Wesley on literaly anyone around him and its no wonder it all went to shit for them.Jul 22 00:19
bagiraoftc/debian problems asideJul 22 00:19
earthlingthis is my understanding of the recent scrollback: some technical peculariaties were discussedJul 22 00:19
earthlingthen matey joins in and instantly distracts, diverts, insults to distractJul 22 00:20
matey/me watches earthling turn into mjg-with-toothbrush-moustacheJul 22 00:20
earthlingso who is this person? what are his intentions? on whose payroll?Jul 22 00:20
mateyi work for interpolJul 22 00:20
bagirado you reallyJul 22 00:20
mateyim the one who installs the polesJul 22 00:20
bagiraoh ffsJul 22 00:20
mateyits not prestigious but someone has toJul 22 00:21
mateybagira: sorry, he asked a stupid questionJul 22 00:21
earthlingoh, poor victim againJul 22 00:21
MinceRlolJul 22 00:21
earthlingwhat's certain so far, this type of communication, it is methodologicalJul 22 00:21
mateyno its presbyterianJul 22 00:22
*bagira hands earthling some shiny, spinny thing that falls and rolls into the other roomJul 22 00:22
earthlingsomething in the scrollback to distract from, flood the channel with crapJul 22 00:22
earthlingDaemonFC did it too oftenJul 22 00:22
mateylook whos talkingJul 22 00:22
mateykeep it up and jesus might come back, holding his noseJul 22 00:23
matey"what?"Jul 22 00:23
matey"i couldnt stand it anymore"Jul 22 00:23
matey"but everything before?"Jul 22 00:23
matey"thats a fair point"Jul 22 00:23
matey"straw the broke the camels back, etc etc"Jul 22 00:23
earthlingmatey wasn't at least present in this channel, and instantly flooded crap two seconds after he joinedJul 22 00:24
DaemonFC 22 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ohio school teacher resigns and takes a job at Walmart because it pays better. – BaronHK's RantsJul 22 00:24
mateythis is one of the delusions people can have, when they think everything works the way they assume it doesJul 22 00:24
mateythings happen out of nowhere-- with no cause-- no buildupJul 22 00:24
mateyjust because its been ongoing for fucking agesJul 22 00:25
bagirashit if a teacher is in it for the money, they're teaching for the wrong reasons.  teachers have never been paid well.Jul 22 00:25
earthlinglet me see the log again... join... tik tok, BAM, crapJul 22 00:25
mateybut not in 12 hours, so the clock on reality just arbitrarily resetsJul 22 00:25
mateyyoure proving my point as i speekJul 22 00:25
mateyand typo like hellJul 22 00:26
mateyreality doesnt reset for most people every few hoursJul 22 00:26
DaemonFC"If anyone really is interested in Trevor Noah bitching (he ruined the Daily Show because he’s not a comedian), I’m sure that the state has also wasted my money buying his books rambling on about grievances against White people at the public library.Jul 22 00:26
earthlingso, what urged matey to join a channel, not knowing what was talked about before, and instantly calling for mass murder?Jul 22 00:26
DaemonFC(Just make sure you leave your name there for the COVID contact tracers.)"Jul 22 00:26
mateytry scrolling back farther than 20 minutes agoJul 22 00:26
mateyfirst of all, you have mjg diseaseJul 22 00:27
mateyyou take every comment seriouslyJul 22 00:27
earthlingi got a scrollback open for 8hoursJul 22 00:27
mateyi got a scrollback open for 8hours <- fortunately for your point, the world did not exist 9 hours agoJul 22 00:27
DaemonFCI would say fuck him, but you'd apparently have to stand in line outside the bathroom stall at the conference.Jul 22 00:27
earthlingno join/part from matey, then he joins, and instantly spread fud and crapJul 22 00:27
mateysecond of all. you have mjg diseaseJul 22 00:27
DaemonFCSome things are just too gross even with a prophylactic. Jul 22 00:28
earthlingmatey coudln't at least have known what was on topic in the last 8hoursJul 22 00:28
DaemonFCLike Windows.Jul 22 00:28
mateyyou believe theres a special court that enforces your personal interpretation of realityJul 22 00:28
mateyready to do your bidding and make things right, whatever you think right isJul 22 00:28
mateygood luck with thatJul 22 00:28
mateyany good psychologist could tell you it only leads to more sufferingJul 22 00:28
mateywhich you will find people to blame forJul 22 00:28
mateyincluding einstein, lol...Jul 22 00:29
mateybecause your problems are his fault somehowJul 22 00:29
DaemonFC"The problem of not valuing public education is easy to blame on the Republican Party because they’re definitely the dumber of the two major political parties in America, but the Democrats rely on an army of voters who are too stupid to take care of themselves and need welfare."Jul 22 00:29
DaemonFC:)Jul 22 00:29
DaemonFCMandy didn't even really go to school in the Philippines, and I'd say he's more intelligent than about 90% of the people he works with at Walmart, in America, where public education is compulsory.Jul 22 00:30
DaemonFCIt's not safe to check in on your app before you drive there and tell them where you parked.Jul 22 00:30
techrights-newssocial rules gemini:// "Most of them are stupid, since they mostly make me wonder how people would live up for more than 5 seconds if one of the rules they care about for practically no reason is being broken."Jul 22 00:30
DaemonFCAs soon as you check in, one of those stupid bastards will go out and shove your groceries in some random DoorDash car.Jul 22 00:30
DaemonFCWithout even making sure it's you.Jul 22 00:30
mateyyour posts are an unceasing whinge about all the people who have wronged youJul 22 00:31
techrights-newsMy First Love Confession and Dealing with Rejection gemini:// 22 00:31
mateybut its mostly people who have no connection to your sufferingJul 22 00:31
bagiragenerally agreed with all of the above, but, when i see people lying about someone is where i draw the line and need to pull out the heavy artilleryJul 22 00:31
psydruidDas Opfer des SchweinhundesJul 22 00:31
techrights-newsWorkflows, Tooling and Bloat gemini:// 22 00:31
matey when i see people lying about someone is where i draw the line and need to pull out the heavy artillery <- all the rewriting of history going on is worth fighting againstJul 22 00:31
DaemonFCThere's really no point in trying to go to a community college in Illinois.Jul 22 00:32
mateySchweinhundes <- knows this oneJul 22 00:32
DaemonFCThey make you pay 5 times what the degree or certificate should cost, with interest, to prop up the Democrat patronage hires and woke idiots who hand out Trevor Noah and call themselves "professors".Jul 22 00:32
mateyits too bad they dont make a beer called SchweinhundesJul 22 00:32
mateyi would try it just for laughsJul 22 00:32
mateyit would probably taste horrible (it probably should, if theyre going to call it that)Jul 22 00:33
DaemonFCOne of the "professors" there got into an argument with me about calendars. He said there was no calendar before the one we use now.Jul 22 00:33
DaemonFCI mean, and they made him a professor!Jul 22 00:33
mateywhats funny earthlingJul 22 00:33
mateyis it was a one-off commentJul 22 00:33
bagiraDaemonFC: lolJul 22 00:33
mateya nasty one to be sureJul 22 00:33
mateythe sole reason we are talking about it like 45 minutes later, is you demand answers youve already received.Jul 22 00:33
mateybut you demand the answers you want, not the ones that actually exist.Jul 22 00:34
mateyso this will go on until you get over itJul 22 00:34
DaemonFCHe gets a salary. "What are we learning today!" Professor: "I don't know. Here's Trevor Noah talking about some shit that happened to black people 200 years ago. Knock yourself out!".Jul 22 00:34
mateybut youll blame me for derailing the conversationJul 22 00:34
mateyeven while it goes on without you.Jul 22 00:34
bagiraDaemonFC: id have dated all my papers with the julian calendar from then forward until he asks why my date is always wrongJul 22 00:34
mateyand thats without even making the point that this channel has very little in the way of rails to go off ofJul 22 00:34
mateydue as much to you as anyone, but even without thatJul 22 00:35
earthlingcalling for mass murder isn't something to distance onself from by diverting into an abstract ideological realm with abstract terms such as "socialist" of "zionist"Jul 22 00:35
earthlinghence, i want to know, why YOU, matey, called for mass murderJul 22 00:35
mateycalling for mass murder isn't something to distance onself from by diverting into an abstract ideological realm with abstract terms such as "socialist" of "zionist" <- ah, here we goJul 22 00:35
mateyyoure starting to transition from meaningless accusations to pure nonsense againJul 22 00:36
mateywelcome backJul 22 00:36
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mateyobviously youve recovered from shock and now youre just grassping for a topicJul 22 00:36
bagiraDaemonFC: mine was a prof that laughed off the introduction of hegelian dialectics to the student body code of conduct (i was a student senate kid), only i wasn't talking about hegelian dialectics, I brought up "categorical imperative as philosophical basis for rules of order", and he didn't know kant or hegel apparentlyJul 22 00:36
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matey/me didnt mean to spell that with ss but now we can use that funny-looking B thing insteadJul 22 00:37
matey/me knows its not a BJul 22 00:37
earthlingmatey: obviosly not, because something else was talked about, until you, with the scrollback available, weren't at least presentJul 22 00:37
earthlingthen /join ... 2seconds ... the rest followedJul 22 00:37
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mateybesides, its probably B anyoneJul 22 00:37
mateyanyway, its not "grashping"Jul 22 00:37
bagiraearthling: why are you so butthurtJul 22 00:37
earthlingso isn't there any other channel for you matey , such as #callformassmurder in 7chan.irc something?Jul 22 00:38
mateybecause hes kenneth mars in the producersJul 22 00:38
mateyno, really...Jul 22 00:38
DaemonFCNobody gets those jobs because they're intelligent.Jul 22 00:38
DaemonFCThey know the state governor.Jul 22 00:38
mateyhes the closest thing ive ever seen to that role in real lifeJul 22 00:38
DaemonFCSo he packs them into the state university and has them charge black people money they'll spend the rest of their lives paying back 6 times over about slavery.Jul 22 00:38
DaemonFCNot bank slavery. Slavery 200 years ago.Jul 22 00:39
DaemonFCThe safe kind.Jul 22 00:39
DaemonFCThe one that has them burning a working class white man's old Buick in the ghetto.Jul 22 00:39
mateyearthling, dont hoard straying from the topic, theres enough for everyoneJul 22 00:39
DaemonFCNot the kind that has them tearing the politicians out of their offices, killing them, and overthrowing the state.Jul 22 00:40
earthlingbagira: either he leaves and doesn't return, or i willJul 22 00:42
MinceRthat sounds familiarJul 22 00:42
mateywhere is mjgs lawyer? i want it in writingJul 22 00:42
bagiraearthling: bye felicia-domoJul 22 00:42
earthlingand be leaving, i mean he will /part and /quit nowJul 22 00:42
mateyi swear it was just the seatJul 22 00:43
matey/me moves it again and makes the same noiseJul 22 00:43
earthlingmatey: gtfoJul 22 00:43
mateyi believe you mean RAUSJul 22 00:43
mateybut neinJul 22 00:43
DaemonFC"Teachers' job satisfaction hit an all-time low this year, according to the Merrimack College Teacher Survey," said the report. "Most respondents said they felt overworked, underpaid and under-appreciated. Only 12 percent said they were very satisfied with their jobs, down from 39 percent in 2012. More than half said they likely wouldn't advise their younger selves to pursue a career in teaching."Jul 22 00:43
*earthling has quit (Quit: connection closed.)Jul 22 00:43
mateyits never that easyJul 22 00:43
DaemonFCThe 12% who are happy are probably the Chicago Teachers Union.Jul 22 00:43
bagiraoh noJul 22 00:44
DaemonFCThey go on strike and get whatever they want.Jul 22 00:44
bagirawill we ever recover from him leaving us behind?Jul 22 00:44
mateyyes, he will be back in a few minutes or less than a dayJul 22 00:44
DaemonFCThey're not like most teachers who go years without a raise and have to deal with voucher programs and such.Jul 22 00:44
bagira*can* we recover?Jul 22 00:44
DaemonFCThe question is.....Do we want to?Jul 22 00:44
*DaemonFC puts gun to headJul 22 00:44
matey/me sets a flower down where the quit message isJul 22 00:44
DaemonFCTalk me down!Jul 22 00:44
DaemonFC:PJul 22 00:44
britneylolJul 22 00:45
bagiraim chaotic good bro, you dont want to bait me with thisJul 22 00:45
DaemonFCmateywhere is mjgs lawyer? i want it in writingJul 22 00:45
mateychaotic good is the best kindJul 22 00:45
DaemonFCHe probably has one of those ones like MARISOL's.Jul 22 00:45
britneywe will know when earthling returns using another name because they will complain about anything that isn't a TUIJul 22 00:45
DaemonFCTakes all of her money promising to scare the hell out of us and then gets her nothing in court.Jul 22 00:45
mateytuis are bloated, repl or gtfoJul 22 00:46
britneyrepl?Jul 22 00:46
DaemonFCMARISOL can afford putting it on the credit card you know.Jul 22 00:46
DaemonFC;)Jul 22 00:46
mateymonitors are a ripoff, i just read the pulses from the serial port with my own skinJul 22 00:46
bagiraim fairly sure he shares a lawyer with like half the people in the appelbaum and peter todd casesJul 22 00:46
britneypunch cards or stfuJul 22 00:46
DaemonFC$1,800 isn't much to get 5 seconds of catharsis followed by nothing at all.Jul 22 00:46
matey 22 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Read–eval–print loop - WikipediaJul 22 00:47
mateyA read–eval–print loop (REPL), also termed an interactive toplevel or language shell, is a simple interactive computer programming environment that takes single user inputs, executes them, and returns the result to the user; a program written in a REPL environment is executed piecewise.[1] The term usually refers to programming interfaces similar to the classic Lisp machine interactive environment.Jul 22 00:47
mateypython tooJul 22 00:47
matey>>> Jul 22 00:47
bagirai bet 20 gas station burritos earthling comes back in like 20 minutes from nowJul 22 00:48
britneybagira, mmmmmmJul 22 00:48
mateyi bet 20 gas station burritos <- i cant believe the geneva convention allows such thingsJul 22 00:49
britneybagira, i agree, he needs someone to listen to his complaintsJul 22 00:49
britneyits not like he has social mediaJul 22 00:49
mateythe irony is ive spent more time trying to fish out reason from him than anyoneJul 22 00:50
mateyi found some of his ideas about minimalist distros inspiringJul 22 00:50
DaemonFCAmerican Communist: Young person opens a bill they don't want to pay. Declares they're a Communist.Jul 22 00:50
DaemonFCLives with mom and dad.Jul 22 00:50
bagiranot everybody has access to thatJul 22 00:50
DaemonFCNever had to work in their life.Jul 22 00:50
mateybut the last straw was him saying einstein was an idiot who worked with pretend physicsJul 22 00:50
DaemonFCKnows nothing about economics.Jul 22 00:50
MinceR   ( )Jul 22 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness ( 22 00:50
mateyi mean its not like i care what people say about einsteinJul 22 00:50
bagiracertainly not an idiot but in all honesty the leraning is that he was a little off in his odelsJul 22 00:51
mateythats not itJul 22 00:51
DaemonFCReddit's LateStageCapitalism is a pretty good example of people who don't get it.Jul 22 00:51
bagiraoff in his models*Jul 22 00:51
mjg59_matey: Oh, nice work (genuinely)Jul 22 00:51
mateyevery scientist is off in their modelsJul 22 00:51
mateyalmost by virtue of it being a modelJul 22 00:51
MinceROn second thought, let's not go to Camelot. 'Tis a silly place.Jul 22 00:51
bagiragravity may actually not exist, the speed of light is not fixed, and time may also not exist as a fixed construct tied to velocityJul 22 00:51
mateymjg: enemy of an enemy?Jul 22 00:52
bagiraat least its not a simulation thoughJul 22 00:52
mjg59_matey: Are you my enemy?Jul 22 00:52
bagirai mean it'd be pretty obvious if it were, id just look for system limits like a minimum temperature or maybe a maximum speedJul 22 00:52
mjg59_matey: Oh never mind, I think I see what oyu meanJul 22 00:52
mateymjg: thats a fair question but it has no direct relationship with what i was askingJul 22 00:52
bagira....Jul 22 00:53
mateyi assume (maybe) you are congratulating me for running off a right wingerJul 22 00:53
mateybut thats not what has happenedJul 22 00:53
mateyi took out some of my annoyance on him and he fledJul 22 00:53
mateyhe will returnJul 22 00:53
bagirain 14 minutesJul 22 00:53
MinceR22 015248 < bagira> i mean it'd be pretty obvious if it were, id just look for system limits like a minimum temperature or maybe a maximum speedJul 22 00:54
MinceRlolJul 22 00:54
matey gravity may actually not exist <- even if it doesnt, newton got the ball rollingJul 22 00:54
mateyits just that it would have kept going until an equal and opposite force acted upon itJul 22 00:55
mateyalso f=ma has very different connotations depending on where you say itJul 22 00:56
mateynewton said it all the time when he forgot to carry the fJul 22 00:56
MinceRsay it in a pubJul 22 00:56
mateythats one way to make new friendsJul 22 00:57
matey <bagira> in 14 minutes <- lolJul 22 00:57
bagiramjg59_: so how's your treasure hunting going?Jul 22 00:57
mjg59_Oh y'know the usualJul 22 00:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▄▃▅▅▄▅▆▅▂▇▅▇▅▆▅▇▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▇▇▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▁▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.78▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jul 22 00:59
mateysadly yesJul 22 00:59
bagiramjg59_: i do, i just was curious if you were going to pretend it was going well or not lolJul 22 01:00
matey/me thinks of the episode of the office where jim sends gaydar to dwightJul 22 01:00
mateyits just a metal detector wand that says "gaydar" on itJul 22 01:00
bagiramatey: lol\Jul 22 01:00
mateydwight triggers it with his belt buckleJul 22 01:00
mateyyes, this is a metaphorJul 22 01:00
mateytheyve been distributing units to everyone with ops on liberaJul 22 01:01
mateyand various other self-proclaimed officialsJul 22 01:02
bagiraalot of that's going to work itself outJul 22 01:02
mateyone way or anotherJul 22 01:02
bagiraprovided people dont assume it'll work itself outJul 22 01:02
mateybut when roy says that i say dont let a kitchen fire keep going just because all fires burn out eventuallyJul 22 01:03
mateyahhJul 22 01:03
mateyright?Jul 22 01:03
mateywhen its really silly i tell him "yes, ultimately the sun will explode"Jul 22 01:03
MinceRwill it?Jul 22 01:04
bagirajustice is a human conceptJul 22 01:04
mateyin theoryJul 22 01:04
MinceRi thought it will blow up, shrink and then cool outJul 22 01:04
mateymaybe im silly to think thats splitting hairsJul 22 01:05
techrights-newsWe far surpassed our goal, and it's all thanks to you! " Free Software Foundation ⚓ ䷉ Source: FSF | GNU | FreeSW | Software Freedom | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | We far surpassed our goal, and it's all thanks to you! — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareJul 22 01:05
MinceRblow up as in grow to a much bigger size but not actually explode, i meanJul 22 01:06
bagirayeah sol will go red giant, then shrink back down and cool off into a giant space turdJul 22 01:06
mateyi mean it runs in fusionJul 22 01:06
mateyi dont think youd be crazy to say its already explodingJul 22 01:07
bagirai meanJul 22 01:07
bagirayeah?Jul 22 01:07
MinceR:)Jul 22 01:07
mateymy point was the ultimately threat it poses to earth (unless earth somehow moves far away)Jul 22 01:07
techrights-newsHow to install GoLand on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to install GoLand on Pop!_OS 22.04 - InvidiousJul 22 01:07
MinceRoh yeahJul 22 01:07
bagiramatey: shit man, the sun's the least of our worriesJul 22 01:07
MinceRand it will deprive earth of atmosphere and water before it engulfs itJul 22 01:07
bagirawe'll be gone long before thenJul 22 01:07
mateybagira: i like to think bigJul 22 01:07
mateyprobablyJul 22 01:07
mateybut its worth a tryJul 22 01:07
MinceRunless humanity miraculously gets its shit together and does something about itJul 22 01:08
MinceRwhich i wouldn't bet onJul 22 01:08
mateywhy not? Jul 22 01:08
mateyif you lose, who collectsJul 22 01:08
MinceR:>Jul 22 01:08
bagirawe'd need like...single-government, nasa-at-the-core-of-our-society-instead-of-defense-budgets kind of star trek shit to develop long enough to even get to red giant heat deathJul 22 01:08
MinceRi probably won't survive long enough to collect either wayJul 22 01:08
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MinceRi'd prefer the no-government kind of shitJul 22 01:09
mateywe'd need like...single-government, nasa-at-the-core-of-our-society-instead-of-defense-budgets kind of star trek shit Jul 22 01:09
mateyi said i like to think big.Jul 22 01:09
MinceRbut humans are unfit for either anywayJul 22 01:09
mateythats bigJul 22 01:09
bagirayeah just imagine privatization of offworld coloniesJul 22 01:09
mateybut FIRST before we can save the speciesJul 22 01:09
mateyand meannessJul 22 01:09
mateyand microaggressions!Jul 22 01:09
bagira"sorry, we will have to cut off shipments of oxygen due to unpaid bill"Jul 22 01:09
AdmFubarthen join the church of the subgenius...Jul 22 01:09
matey "its 12345"Jul 22 01:10
bagirai just dont think a capitalist society could thrive in spaceJul 22 01:10
mateyi dont even think it can survive on earthJul 22 01:11
bagiraand when i say thrive im talking bare minimum survival, tbh, the safety protocols alone would get usJul 22 01:11
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mateyq had the right idea. just change the gravitational constant of the universe.Jul 22 01:12
mateynot that we can do that, be he starts from the right endJul 22 01:12
mateyif we want to survive the next million years, we need to think more like thatJul 22 01:13
mateyand im against forgetting the little thingsJul 22 01:13
mateylike not all having to think exactly the sameJul 22 01:13
mateypeople who want to stay on earth should be allowed to do soJul 22 01:13
bagiraunless its a simulation, could maybe try to do an address overwrite using a wormholeJul 22 01:13
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mateyif its a simulation theres are some people we should probably killJul 22 01:14
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bagirawhyJul 22 01:14
mateybecause theyre dicksJul 22 01:14
bagirayou assume if its a simulation that its possible for us to live outside of itJul 22 01:14
mateyno i dont, ive seen babylon 5Jul 22 01:14
mateythey break the sandboxJul 22 01:15
mateythey dont beam from sim into realityJul 22 01:15
mateybut they do start a nuclear war with the computerJul 22 01:15
bagirasounds kinda dumbJul 22 01:15
mateyyou had to be thereJul 22 01:15
mateyalso its plausible enoughJul 22 01:15
mateyjust barelyJul 22 01:16
mateyits not like red dwarf after the first one or two books :/Jul 22 01:16
mateydwarf has better acting thoughJul 22 01:16
mateyanyway i like the hologram theory better than the simulation oneJul 22 01:17
mateyand they have enough in common that at least one isnt that ridiculousJul 22 01:17
mateythe hologram theory also vindicates the quantum woo woo people Jul 22 01:18
mateyand thats always funJul 22 01:18
mateyas a plus we dont have to kill them then, because the simulation is real tooJul 22 01:19
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britney<bagira> you assume if its a simulation that its possible for us to live outside of it   <-- someone hasn't seen TronJul 22 01:29
mateytron wasnt all that compellingJul 22 01:30
mateybut i liked the originalJul 22 01:30
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britneyi love them bothJul 22 01:30
mateythey did a nice job on the visuals for the second oneJul 22 01:30
mateyive only seen clipsJul 22 01:30
mateywhats cool about tron is red hat has pushed the mcp into most gnu/linux distrosJul 22 01:31
britneyLOLJul 22 01:31
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mateybut seriously, i liked it even a lot closer to the release dateJul 22 01:32
mateyi saw it in the 80sJul 22 01:32
matey/me rattles his cane at lennartJul 22 01:32
britneyits one of the movies i like to watch yearlyJul 22 01:32
mateydefinitely a classicJul 22 01:33
mateyand this from someone who passionately hates disneyJul 22 01:33
britneyhackers is pretty good tooJul 22 01:33
mateygood old fisher stevensJul 22 01:33
mateyor not so good this timeJul 22 01:33
mateybad, bad fisher stevens!Jul 22 01:34
mateypoor guy, he signed a contractJul 22 01:34
mateythen they were like "can you do it in brownface?"Jul 22 01:34
matey"um, ok"Jul 22 01:34
mateyso he does Jul 22 01:34
mateyand then just like people who are really brown get typecastJul 22 01:34
mateyhe started getting typecast in brownface!Jul 22 01:34
britneywhat I'd really love to do is get some LSD and watch 2001, Star Trek 1 and TronJul 22 01:34
matey2001 IS lsdJul 22 01:35
britneyoh and Dune 1980sJul 22 01:35
mateydune is bath saltsJul 22 01:35
mateyim not actually hating on duneJul 22 01:35
mateythough im dangerously close to going too farJul 22 01:35
britneyits been years since i watched dune but figured it would be a good watch on LSDJul 22 01:36
mateystar trek 1 is cheap canadian whiskey in a dom perignon bottleJul 22 01:36
britneyi had some LSD like 10 years ago and Star Trek 1 was amazing on itJul 22 01:36
mateybut id watch it again, of courseJul 22 01:36
britneybasically any kinda long movie with visualsJul 22 01:36
britneywhen i did LSD ten years ago, i watched star trek 1, napoleon dynamite and 2001Jul 22 01:38
mateylolJul 22 01:39
britneyi would swap out napoleon dynamite for tronJul 22 01:39
britneyand throw in some duneJul 22 01:39
mateythey need to remake napoleon dynamite and 2001 as a single filmJul 22 01:39
mateythat would be amazingJul 22 01:39
britneylolJul 22 01:39
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britneyi tried watching the second Mr Bean movie high on mushrooms, that was so fucked upJul 22 01:40
mateyif i was going to get high and watch mr bean, my first chioce is mr bean goes on vacationJul 22 01:40
britneythat was the movieJul 22 01:40
mateythat was the second one?Jul 22 01:40
britneyyeahJul 22 01:40
mateywell thenJul 22 01:41
mateyive seen the tv show, the animated seriesJul 22 01:41
mateyprobably both filmsJul 22 01:41
mateyi dont know which is which though :)Jul 22 01:41
britneyi liked the first movie betterJul 22 01:41
mateyi mean the animated one is obviousJul 22 01:41
mateyvacation was too mainstreamJul 22 01:41
mateybut it still had a charmJul 22 01:41
britneyhis facial expressions in vacation just tripped me the hell outJul 22 01:42
mateylolJul 22 01:42
mateyhes got a pretty funny face to begin withJul 22 01:42
britneyyeah lolJul 22 01:42
britneymushrooms were too intense, i liked LSD betterJul 22 01:42
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DaemonFCI don't know. I never got past weed.Jul 22 01:44
britneyweed is great but these days it just makes me paranoidJul 22 01:44
britneyi've only tried mushrooms and LSD once eachJul 22 01:44
britneyeveryone should try LSD at least once in their lifeJul 22 01:45
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bagiraim sure it does help to escape the shackles of dogma for someJul 22 01:54
DaemonFCAs soon as it became legal it lost all of its appeal.Jul 22 01:55
DaemonFCMostly, the drug war backfired because it turned weed into "forbidden fruit".Jul 22 01:55
bagirai was referring to psychadelicsJul 22 01:55
DaemonFCWhy is anything that's illegal fun? It's illegal! That's half the fun, minimum.Jul 22 01:55
DaemonFCOh, now they want to make mushrooms and LSD legal.Jul 22 01:55
DaemonFCMight as well. World's falling apart anyway.Jul 22 01:56
bagirathats going to be great for trauma professionalsJul 22 01:56
britneyI want to do some LSD again Jul 22 01:56
britneyit was greatJul 22 01:56
bagirapsylocibin is extremely promising in treating PTSDJul 22 01:56
britneyi've heard about thatJul 22 01:57
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bagirain any case, drug war bad, they need to legalize all the things and treat addiction like a public health issue instead of a criminal oneJul 22 01:59
britneyi agreeJul 22 01:59
bagiraespecially cocaineJul 22 01:59
bagirafor reasons, dammit!Jul 22 01:59
britneycocaine lolJul 22 02:00
britneyjust drink a pot of coffee, its cheaperJul 22 02:00
bagirano man its just dumb.  in 1950 if you snorted a line off marilyn monroe's ass it comes off as regal; in 2022 if you do that you get charged with desecrating a burial site and posession of a controlled substanceJul 22 02:01
britneyLMAOJul 22 02:01
britneycocaine is a hell of a drugJul 22 02:02
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bagirapoor frank.  he's feeding right into the trap and he doesn't even know it.Jul 22 02:10
bagirai'd say by about now at leastJul 22 02:11
bagirai jest.  f*ck frank.Jul 22 02:12
DaemonFCDoing a useragent override for and telling it desktop Safari on Mac gets Bing to stop crashing SeaMonkey.Jul 22 02:18
bagirathat's actually really interestingJul 22 02:18
bagirayou should tell safari to say it's seamonkey and see what happens in safariJul 22 02:19
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mjg59_ bagira: When you say "The original satire profile that Garrett misrepresents in both events of defamation is still in existence and unaltered for the sole purpose of debunking both his original claim", that's not actually true, is it?Jul 22 02:23
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mjg59_Because the account that now has the void_witch2 handle is not the original one that didJul 22 02:24
mjg59_The original @lord_bagira account was changed to @void_witch2, and was then renamed to @equitis_rubrum when the current @void_witch2 account was createdJul 22 02:25
bagiramjg59_: Is this really the best version of you?Jul 22 02:26
mjg59_I'm just pointing out that you're making an explicit claim that doesn't appear to be trueJul 22 02:26
mjg59_Seems like an easy thing for you to correctJul 22 02:27
bagiraWell, it is in terms of timeline tracking, you just haven't pieced together the order of events, yet, Mr. Dumpty.Jul 22 02:29
mjg59_You're linking to a profile that isn't the profile I was talking aboutJul 22 02:30
mjg59_Merely one that has the same nameJul 22 02:30
mjg59_The one I was talking about *has* been alteredJul 22 02:31
bagiraNo, you're just a horrible liar about to make a verifiably false claim that will also backfire on you.Jul 22 02:31
bagiraI mean that's like 10 minutes of work stretched out to debunk in exchange for what I assume is days of your collective time.Jul 22 02:32
*bagira hands mjg59_ a shovelJul 22 02:32
mjg59_Do you deny that you renamed the @lord_bagira account to @void_witch2, and then renamed that to @equitis_rubrum and created a new account called @void_witch2?Jul 22 02:32
bagiraI do not, what I deny is the weird loophole you're looking for about somehow talking about a different account, since the switch was before the parody was known.  You're reversing the order of events, presumably deliberately, so that you can retro your own poor behaviour.Jul 22 02:33
bagiraThe accounts did switch, but as you'll see in the captures, the content in mention was after the switch and before it was known to you.  You are a liar, and not a very good one, and I've met you a thousand times.Jul 22 02:34
DaemonFCschestowitz I had the idea.Jul 22 02:34
DaemonFCNewsWaffle in SeaMonkey.Jul 22 02:35
mjg59_bagira: The github issue discussing this predates the switchJul 22 02:35
DaemonFCSo I just opened a Gemini to Web proxy and use NewsWaffle this way and it works.Jul 22 02:35
bagiramjg59_: That doesn't matter at all.Jul 22 02:36
mjg59_bagira: And, well, you're just wrong here?Jul 22 02:36
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mjg59_bagira: - that is literally you responding to me using that accountJul 22 02:36
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bagiraYou're trying to make a true statement into a false statement to try to distract from your own poor behaviour and it's not going to work and will actually further hurt your own credibility.Jul 22 02:36
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bagiraThere's no technicality to save you.  There's no magic lie to tell.  There's only growth or failure.Jul 22 02:37
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mjg59_The technicality where I was obviously aware of your behaviour using that account, given that you showed up in my mentions using that account?Jul 22 02:38
DaemonFCMr. GULAG is like Nixon.Jul 22 02:39
DaemonFCThey said if you accused Nixon of killing 12 kids and a dog, he'd present a live dog and call you a liar.Jul 22 02:39
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bagiramjg59_: stew in your failure for another night and come back soon.Jul 22 02:39
bagiramjg59_: what i would not do though is assume that your position is static in an environment of moving and interacting nodesJul 22 02:40
bagirathere will be lulls and pausesJul 22 02:41
bagirathey will betray youJul 22 02:41
mjg59_And huh what's this?Jul 22 02:41
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bagirafalse light, meet real lightJul 22 02:44
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bagirayou guys are hard to watch in this phaseJul 22 02:47
bagiraimagine how much better your lives would be if you just spent an hour some saturday making a list of all the people you've damaged with your false words and just issuing an apology to restore them and yourself to dignity.Jul 22 02:48
bagirainstead of the countless hours you'll spend trying to stir up chickenshit tangents Jul 22 02:48
bagiralike you have no doubt done repeatedly in each of these little sagasJul 22 02:49
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bagiramjg59_: anyway, when did you and reichwein meet?Jul 22 03:00
bagiralike ballparkish what year Jul 22 03:00
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bagirai guess he doens't wan to talk about the good stuffJul 22 03:12
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DaemonFCLiberals concerned collapsing economy could set back wokeness.Jul 22 03:28
bagiraDaemonFC: the layoffs are starting to hit close to home too, we just saw 1000 tech workers re-enter the market from two major layoffs in our area.  Jul 22 03:30
bagirawe're not talking amazon warehouse either, these were like career engineers in systems and security spacesJul 22 03:31
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DaemonFC"Before FICO, credit bureaus relied in part on gossip culled from people’s landlords, neighbors, and local grocers. Applicants’ race could be counted against them, as could messiness, poor morals, and “effeminate gestures.”"Jul 22 03:43
DaemonFCWow, I didn't know that.Jul 22 03:43
DaemonFCHow would they know that?Jul 22 03:43
DaemonFCIt's not like people's landlords and neighbors got on Facebook and started saying stuff about them.Jul 22 03:43
bagirawhat year was fico introduced? the distance people in communities have to each other is relatively recent in history, people used to be alot more tightly knitJul 22 03:44
DaemonFC1989 apparently.Jul 22 03:45
bagirathats a little later than i'd hoped to read tbh, but sounds about right.  people back then really did know each other better around town.Jul 22 03:45
DaemonFCMaybe someone from the credit bureau called your neighbors or landlord or something?Jul 22 03:46
DaemonFCLike, you had to list them on a credit application or something and depending on what they said about you, you got a loan?Jul 22 03:46
bagiraeverybody knew everybody in town until like the 90s so it was probably someone at the bank just calling mutual associatesJul 22 03:47
bagirathere are still places like that (excluding banks lol)Jul 22 03:47
DaemonFCBanks throw credit cards at you really easy today.Jul 22 03:48
DaemonFCEspecially if it's pretty obvious to them you won't be able to pay in full. (Like MARISOL.)Jul 22 03:48
DaemonFCThere ideal customer doesn't pay in full.Jul 22 03:49
DaemonFCThey load the entire card up, or several, and then make minimum payments forever.Jul 22 03:49
DaemonFCbagira: It just seems they probably didn't have anything sophisticated back then.Jul 22 03:56
DaemonFCIt's totally believable that FICO came out of mjg59_'s Democrat Shithole.Jul 22 03:56
DaemonFCThis way they can stuff racial bias and other nasties into a computer program you can't see instead of admitting it.Jul 22 03:57
DaemonFC(San Francisco....where you can be fined for parking in your driveway unless you can prove someone parked there before 1978.)Jul 22 03:57
DaemonFCThe city has way too much time on its hands.Jul 22 03:58
DaemonFCI suggest sentencing everyone there to hard labor.Jul 22 03:58
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bagiraDaemonFC: lol, well im sure in his case the fines dont matter if he can claim that the officer swapped shoes earlier in the day before writing the ticketJul 22 04:00
bagirathat dude must be sippin manJul 22 04:00
DaemonFCOne of those Web sites that builds dossiers on everyone told me the value of the place Mr. GULAG lives in.Jul 22 04:01
britneyDaemonFC, who is Mr Gulag?Jul 22 04:01
DaemonFCOf course, in San Francisco, $748,000 is probably renting a timeshare in someone's bathroom where you get to sleep in the tub when they're not using it.Jul 22 04:01
bagiramy guess is 250-500kJul 22 04:01
DaemonFCI want to say $748,000. I seem to recall a ballpark of something like that.Jul 22 04:02
DaemonFCI could be wrong.Jul 22 04:02
DaemonFCMaybe it was $478,000. Anyway....Jul 22 04:02
bagirayeah thats one of the reasons why i always end up declining a big 5 offer, they offer great money but want you to relocate out there, and the housing is just stupid expensive, like 5/6 of your raised income stupidJul 22 04:03
bagiraand for squalor tooJul 22 04:03
DaemonFCPoint is, you could get a big house with a garage, 4 bedrooms, two stories, a finished basement, on 2 acres of land, in my hometown. Nice one too.Jul 22 04:03
bagiraif you want a decent place in sil valley you need millionsJul 22 04:03
DaemonFCYou could buy that for $75,000 even now.Jul 22 04:03
DaemonFC$500-600 property taxes on the year.Jul 22 04:03
bagirawhat city?Jul 22 04:04
bagirashit, cleveland doesn't even have that right nowJul 22 04:04
DaemonFCIt's near Marion, IndianaJul 22 04:04
bagiraim in cinciJul 22 04:04
DaemonFCMarion is bad, but some of the sleeper towns nearby aren't.Jul 22 04:04
DaemonFCThey built the sleeper towns to get away from the crime.Jul 22 04:04
bagirawhen you work remote its worth it to grab an outskirts townJul 22 04:05
DaemonFCThey were like 99.8% white, and then they commuted into the city to work at the factories that used to be there.Jul 22 04:05
DaemonFCBut like, even in the 90s, when there was crime in Marion to complain of....Jul 22 04:05
DaemonFCIt wasn't a bad place.Jul 22 04:05
DaemonFCI used to walk around over by the RCA factory to get lunch on my lunch break from school.Jul 22 04:05
DaemonFCWalk back. We didn't really have this "kids get shot off their bicycle" "pervert out grabbing people" stuff like there is now.Jul 22 04:06
bagirayeah stuff got weird everywhere real fastJul 22 04:06
DaemonFCIt's because you get the amount of crime you tolerate.Jul 22 04:06
DaemonFCAnd Democrat judges and prosecutors are all over the place trying to get votes out of criminals now.Jul 22 04:07
DaemonFCSo they just cut them loose.Jul 22 04:07
DaemonFCIt got to be so bad that San Francisco is recalling their prosecutor for being too liberal.Jul 22 04:07
DaemonFCIt turns out that they liked the idea of not punishing criminals, in theory.Jul 22 04:08
DaemonFCWhen the guy was campaigning, he didn't use the words "I'm going to dump them all back out on you.".Jul 22 04:08
DaemonFCIt was "racial justice" this and that, you know.Jul 22 04:08
DaemonFCAnd then he stopped charging them with anything.Jul 22 04:09
DaemonFCSo you had train robberies and organized retail thefts explode.Jul 22 04:09
DaemonFCMuggings explode.Jul 22 04:09
DaemonFCRape explode.Jul 22 04:09
DaemonFCThey were all back out on the street right away even if the cops did catch them. Jul 22 04:09
DaemonFCI don't know if a white person doing all those things would be dumped back out.Jul 22 04:10
DaemonFCI kind of think we'd still get the jury trial, to be perfectly honest.Jul 22 04:10
bagirai meanJul 22 04:12
bagirado you have any stats to back up a racial inequality thereJul 22 04:12
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britneybagira, of course he doesn't, hes just spewing nonsense Jul 22 04:36
bagirawill he reach that conclusion if you call it nonsenseJul 22 04:38
bagiraor will he buckle down on itJul 22 04:38
britneyprobably buckle downJul 22 04:39
britneyhe doesnt like it when people say he spews nonsenseJul 22 04:39
bagiralolJul 22 04:39
bagiraso britney you missed some garrett dramaJul 22 04:40
britneyoh yeah?Jul 22 04:40
britneywas it regarding appelbaum?Jul 22 04:40
bagirahe came in and found that i had rotated some of my twitter alt accounts to reuse an old one for the satire site Jul 22 04:40
bagirabefore deleting a bunch of old commentsJul 22 04:40
bagiraso he's now trying to say he didn't defame me because he was talking about the old one lolJul 22 04:40
britneylolJul 22 04:41
bagirai haven't even started with the appelbaum stuff, he's too nervous about itJul 22 04:41
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bagirai think somewhere in the back he's thinking "this is that fork in the road ive been worried about" lolJul 22 04:41
britneyyeahJul 22 04:43
bagirain any case, sounds like we have new content coming from both that and the appelbaum thing depending on how shit plays out, few directions it could goJul 22 04:43
britneyim highly suspect of the situation surrounding appelbaumJul 22 04:43
bagirai am finding thingsJul 22 04:43
bagirai can't talk about them yetJul 22 04:43
britneyi think he was framed because thats what intelligence agencies doJul 22 04:44
britneyit happened to assangeJul 22 04:44
bagirawell, they do but you're not supposed to talk about thatJul 22 04:44
bagirathere's a well unwritten rule that the clandestine world doesn't exist if you're not in itJul 22 04:44
bagiralikeJul 22 04:45
bagirawe can sayJul 22 04:45
bagira"it exists"Jul 22 04:45
britneyappelbaum was too dangerousJul 22 04:45
bagiraand that "shit like that happens in it"Jul 22 04:45
bagirabut we can't say "thing X happened in it"Jul 22 04:45
bagiraotherwise it becomes a conspiracy theoryJul 22 04:46
bagirawhich is a pejorative label meant to discredit any perspective appied to itJul 22 04:46
bagira*any perspective it is applied toJul 22 04:46
bagiralike if i say "britney I think you ate the last piece of pizza and then blamed it on the dog", you can say "oh boy, another conspiracy theory from chris", and while technically accurate, you did, in fact, eat the last fucking piece of pizza and blame it on the dog.Jul 22 04:47
DaemonFCDogs eat pizza sometimes.Jul 22 04:48
DaemonFCI used to slip it to my dog as table scraps.Jul 22 04:48
bagiramy dog eats a ton of pizzaJul 22 04:49
bagiraive seen him wolf down a whole largeJul 22 04:49
bagirai didnt give it him, he's just better at getting it than i am at keeping him from getting itJul 22 04:49
DaemonFCHer favorite was biscuits and gravy though.Jul 22 04:49
britneybagira, toucheJul 22 04:49
DaemonFCI always use the spicy sausage too.Jul 22 04:50
DaemonFCIt got to where she smelled me cooking it and came over to sit down next to me and wait.Jul 22 04:50
britney 22 04:50
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britneySuch a good videoJul 22 04:51
britneyPart 1 of 2 seems to have disappeared thoughJul 22 04:51
DaemonFCGarrett only wakes up to lob in the occasional drama bomb and then he goes quiet.Jul 22 04:52
bagiraDaemonFC: pretty sure he sits around seething and writing things down Jul 22 04:53
DaemonFCHe hasn't been active on Reddit lately. At least under his usual account.Jul 22 04:53
DaemonFCStrange.Jul 22 04:54
DaemonFCReddit is mostly just porn and hate groups.Jul 22 04:54
DaemonFC 22 04:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SeaMonkey complains about its own doctype header • mozillaZine ForumsJul 22 04:54
DaemonFC"The error originates from the Firefox Dev Tools team who have apparently decided that authors should not use a Transitional doctype, even if it's actually preferable in most situations. Source: "Jul 22 04:54
bagirahe's been busy prob Jul 22 04:54
britneyit certainly sounds like DaemonFC is stalking himJul 22 04:54
DaemonFC"Why is Transitional preferable? Basically because the HTML standards folks have gone totally crazy in deprecating lots of very useful markup over the years in favor of a hypocritical form of fascism they term "the semantic web". The "semantic" way of building a website these days is not always obvious, easy, or human-writer-friendly and being that Composer is rather old, it still uses a...Jul 22 04:54
DaemonFC...great deal of older methods for doing things. So the Transitional doctype is probably totally appropriate for the code that Composer generates, even if the Firefox Dev Tools folks are on the HTML5-or-bust bandwagon."Jul 22 04:54
DaemonFCUsing SeaMonkey Composer for your site is fine.Jul 22 04:55
DaemonFCEven new pages on ToastyTech say the "generator" is Netscape 4.Jul 22 04:56
DaemonFCI laughed. Certainly that wasn't generating any sort of "standard" markup, yet it all still works fine.Jul 22 04:56
britneyewwwwwJul 22 04:58
britneyseamonkey composer probably uses html4 cuz its so oldJul 22 04:58
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DaemonFCBecause it works.Jul 22 04:59
britneyI'd rather use vscodeJul 22 04:59
bagiraso uhJul 22 05:00
bagirawho the hell are you people anywayJul 22 05:00
britneybagira, what do you meanJul 22 05:00
bagiralike can we do introductions hereJul 22 05:00
DaemonFCSome of the pages on my site were produced with Netscape Communicator.Jul 22 05:01
britneyDaemonFC, I put one of those old school "best viewed in netscape" buttons on my websiteJul 22 05:01
DaemonFCIt was more advanced than Microsoft Fartpage.Jul 22 05:02
DaemonFCSo advanced that it even closed its tags.Jul 22 05:02
britneyi literally made my site by hand, i didn't use an editorJul 22 05:03
britneybagira, what kind of introductionsJul 22 05:03
bagiraim chris.  i do linux distro and linux software things, corporate and for fun. im at www.silogroup.orgJul 22 05:04
bagiraand my design skills are horribleJul 22 05:04
DaemonFC 22 05:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apps/Planner - GNOME Wiki!Jul 22 05:05
DaemonFCThis used to be known as MrProject.Jul 22 05:05
DaemonFCAs opposed to MS Project.Jul 22 05:05
DaemonFCNow you can't make jokes like that.Jul 22 05:06
britneyI'm Britney. I love video games and computers. I'm a conspiracy researcher too. im at 22 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cerberus InvestigationsJul 22 05:06
bagirawow that is old schoolJul 22 05:06
bagiralike angelfire old schoolJul 22 05:06
britneymy site?Jul 22 05:06
bagirayes lolJul 22 05:07
britneyi copied the design from maddox.xmission.comJul 22 05:07
britneyits supposed to look like it came from the 90s but its actually pure HTML5Jul 22 05:08
bagirasoJul 22 05:08
bagirawho is daniel pocock and wtf is going on thereJul 22 05:08
britneyDaniel Pocock?Jul 22 05:09
bagirayeah i can't tell what's really going on with that oneJul 22 05:10
bagirai get reports about him through the abuse email for AO but i can't make sense of the whole thing yetJul 22 05:10
bagirait looks at face value like he may have defended appelbaum and was thrown out of debian for it, and then retaliated, but i can't get a straight answer out of anybody on itJul 22 05:14
britneyAO?Jul 22 05:15
bagirabritney: AO is AbuseOnline ( )Jul 22 05:15
britneyoh okJul 22 05:15
britney (Part 1)Jul 22 05:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Jacob Appelbaum (Part 1/2) Digital Anti-Repression Workshop - April 26 2012 - InvidiousJul 22 05:20
bagirawho tf is DaemonFC Jul 22 05:20
britney (Part 2)Jul 22 05:20
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britneyDaemonFC is RyanJul 22 05:20
britneyhe is the channel mascot Jul 22 05:21
bagiraoh i might've heard about him in some of the techrights articles ive come acrossJul 22 05:22
britneyhes in here always spewing nonsense so its not surprising that some of it got quoted on techrightsJul 22 05:23
DaemonFCMany "rape victims" do lie because they're hoping to get revenge against someone for something else, and they know that rape is such a horrible accusation that it shuts people down so they won't listen to the person being accused.Jul 22 05:28
DaemonFCThere's also almost never any consequences for the person who lies about it even if they do get found out.Jul 22 05:28
DaemonFCPeople just disperse and act as if nothing had ever happened, and the person they complained about is still ruined.Jul 22 05:29
bagiraman if you are gonna highlight issues like that you have /got/ to lead with statistical backingJul 22 05:30
DaemonFCWhen I got ahold of police files about myself, the detective was pressuring my ex to throw in a false rape allegation.Jul 22 05:30
bagirai mean you can not do that but it wont go well convincing an audienceJul 22 05:30
DaemonFCWhen my ex wouldn't go there, the detective tried again three times, before moving on to something else.Jul 22 05:30
DaemonFCSo the police often pressure the person in there to complain about you, even if it was unprompted. Jul 22 05:31
DaemonFCI'm not sure if it's because the police are homophobic or if it's just because they want more false allegations in case the main thing they have falls apart when they get into the courtroom.Jul 22 05:33
DaemonFCThen they can say they weren't just wasting their time because "Hell, we all know he was guilty of something.".Jul 22 05:33
DaemonFCSo, the police pressure complainers to throw in false rape accusations. It's up there after planting drugs and guns on people.Jul 22 05:33
bagirayou need stats from a reliable source if you want taken seriously on thatJul 22 05:34
DaemonFCI've witnessed them doing it.Jul 22 05:35
DaemonFCIt seems to me like they just open a case and then try to stuff as many things into it as they can.Jul 22 05:35
DaemonFCSo they can extract false confessions to something else or taint the jury.Jul 22 05:35
DaemonFCIt's how they win cases without doing the work.Jul 22 05:35
bagiraalot of police officers are horrible human beings, and ive seen them do horrible things too, but its not a credible position to say that its normal without some kind of study.  everyone knows they extract false confessions and obscure evidence sometimes.Jul 22 05:36
bagiraDA offices are often worse than the PD with stuff like thatJul 22 05:36
bagirabut if you want to change mindsJul 22 05:36
bagirawhich it sounds like you want toJul 22 05:36
bagirastudies and stats need quotedJul 22 05:36
bagirathere are 3 aspects of argumentJul 22 05:38
bagiraethos, pathos, logosJul 22 05:38
bagiraethics, emotion, logicJul 22 05:38
bagirayou need all three when you take a controversial opinionJul 22 05:38
DaemonFCIn Chicago right now, they're vacating convictions right and left over a corrupt police detective that beat confessions out of people.Jul 22 05:39
DaemonFCThe CPD also ran a torture center and "black site" at Homan Square.Jul 22 05:40
DaemonFCA few years ago, a Cook County judge got voted out of office and the Democratic Party was forced to disown him after the public found out it was common for the CPD to bear false confessions out of people then arrange to have the judge admit it into evidence.Jul 22 05:41
DaemonFCThe cops will do whatever they can to win, no matter how filthy, low down, and reprehensible it is.Jul 22 05:41
DaemonFCAnd you'd do well to avoid them if you can.Jul 22 05:41
DaemonFCThen in other cases, they don't care that crimes are happening, at all.Jul 22 05:41
DaemonFCIn my observation, they harass me when I'm not even doing anything and take false reports against me and run with them and try to suggest going further to the liar.Jul 22 05:42
DaemonFCBut when I need help, they just blow me off, even when I can point and say "THE BAD GUYS ARE RIGHT THERE!".Jul 22 05:42
bagiraa strong case for gun ownershipJul 22 05:43
DaemonFCDon't go near the police. Stay away from a relationship with anyone who even might betray you to them or use them for revenge.Jul 22 05:43
DaemonFCI mean, there's worse things than a lonely existence.Jul 22 05:43
DaemonFCLet them bother someone else. Stay in your house. If you do go out, drive friendly.Jul 22 05:44
DaemonFCVacation well away from other people.Jul 22 05:44
DaemonFCHave you noticed in all of those zombie shows, it's not even the zombies that are the main threat.Jul 22 05:45
DaemonFCIt's the survivors.Jul 22 05:45
DaemonFCAnd the only reason why things aren't that shitty right now is that society hasn't utterly collapsed, so there are some consequences for people who actually care.Jul 22 05:45
DaemonFCAnd that's the only thing that keeps people under control.Jul 22 05:46
DaemonFCThreats.Jul 22 05:46
DaemonFCThe government threatens to punish them. The church threatens them with Hell.Jul 22 05:46
DaemonFCThreats, threats, threats.Jul 22 05:46
DaemonFCSo many people don't step out of line and kill their neighbor with a machete or cheat on their income taxes, because of threats.Jul 22 05:46
DaemonFCMost of the crime in our society comes from people who are too dumb to consider obvious consequences.Jul 22 05:48
DaemonFCThat's why I have a hard time buying it when mjg59_ accuses an intelligent and rational person of rape.Jul 22 05:48
DaemonFCRape is hardly an intellectual crime.Jul 22 05:49
DaemonFCIt's caveman stuff.Jul 22 05:49
DaemonFCIt is unlikely that Jacob Appelbaum is a rapist. It is more likely that the allegations are a frame up job.Jul 22 05:49
DaemonFCIf you told me that some asshole in Chicago who had an IQ of 90, a trove of handguns that had never been in the FOID system, and a string of prior offenses had chased someone down and raped them, I'd be more inclined to believe it.Jul 22 05:50
DaemonFCThere's two "rapist" types I've seen.Jul 22 05:52
DaemonFCThe big dumb ox, and the "I'm in a position where I have so much power that nobody will ever believe you, or do anything about me, and I will shatter your world if you go to the police with this." types.Jul 22 05:53
DaemonFCAnd Jeremy Soule (Microsoft) is that last type.Jul 22 05:53
britneyJacob Appelbaum is a dangerous person to the establishment Jul 22 05:54
DaemonFCYou noticed he found the woman in the office who was on an immigrant visa and backed her into the corner and threatened her with job loss and to be sent packing if she told anyone.Jul 22 05:54
DaemonFCSo I believe that Jeremy Soule is a rapist.Jul 22 05:54
DaemonFCBut mjg59_ never talks about the rapists and pedos at Microsoft.Jul 22 05:54
DaemonFCEven when they get convicted.Jul 22 05:54
DaemonFC"described Appelbaum ignoring a safeword and becoming violent"Jul 22 05:56
DaemonFCI don't know why you'd get into BDSM with someone.Jul 22 05:56
DaemonFCThe fact that they're into BDSM would tell you they're not right.Jul 22 05:56
DaemonFCAgain, if indeed this ever happened.Jul 22 05:57
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, July 21, 2022 full archive: #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextJul 22 06:13
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 22 06:30
techrights-newsSearch Engine Ranking Systems Are Being Left Unquestioned gemini:// 22 06:31
techrights-news"Search Engines need to undergo much more criticism than they are now, and Geminispace provides us the opportunity to do this at a time when the space is not overcome by corporations and giant capsules that dominate the space. The goal of this article is to question existing ranking algorithms and detail the issues with them." gemini:// 22 06:32
techrights-news"I reject the notion that this will provide decent search results on logic and theory grounds. This system is very easy to abuse, and ends up prioritizing the big corporations, capitalistic sites, and trending pages over everything else." gemini:// 22 06:32
techrights-news"There is also a circular problem with this system. New sites automatically get a very low ranking, which reduces their discoverability, and consequently reduces the ability for them to get links from other pages to boost their rankings. One's current ranking affects one's future ranking..." gemini:// 22 06:33
techrights-news"PageRank is a similar link-based ranking system, developed by Larry Page and Sergey Brin for the Google Search Engine in the late 1990s. The [software] patent expired in 2019. Google still uses PageRank, but has since introduced other algorithm updates on top of it, including Google Panda." gemini:// 22 06:34
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schestowitz"Many search engines try to combat this by trying to detect these link farms, but this then introduces the possibility of false positives.Jul 22 06:35
schestowitz Currently, as far as I am aware, TLGS and Kennedy are both prone to this. AuraGem and GUS are not."  gemini:// 22 06:35
DaemonFCDuckDuckGo seems to characterize all of Wordpress as a content farm.Jul 22 06:36
DaemonFCWhich means you only read my blog if you discover it through Google or SearX or something that scrapes Google.Jul 22 06:37
DaemonFCIt may not just be DuckDuckGo. It seems Bing actively refuses to return any hits from my blog as well.Jul 22 06:37
DaemonFCEither way, it undercuts DuckDuckGo's claim that they're not just Bing.Jul 22 06:38
DaemonFCIf they actually had their own results, they would show some of my posts when you search for me.Jul 22 06:38
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schestowitz[TR2] absorbed msnsspacesJul 22 06:38
schestowitz[TR2]when microsoft shut it downJul 22 06:38
schestowitz[TR2]and 99% of msspaces, iirc, was deemed spamJul 22 06:39
schestowitz[TR2]*msnspacesJul 22 06:39
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DaemonFCThat's not surprising.Jul 22 06:40
DaemonFCMicrosoft doesn't have any "communities" that are real.Jul 22 06:40
DaemonFCProbably the closest they got was MSN Chat, which they shut down.Jul 22 06:40
DaemonFCI used MSN/Windows Live Messenger, but not directly.Jul 22 06:41
DaemonFCAs soon as you had an account, you could chat with people using aMSN or Pidgin or something.Jul 22 06:41
DaemonFCThe MSNP protocol was not that complicated. Each revision was reverse engineered pretty fast.Jul 22 06:41
DaemonFCPlus, it didn't have to be done right away because they left the old versions alone for a while to give their own users time to upgrade.Jul 22 06:42
britneyback in the day I used MSN/AIM/ICQ on PidginJul 22 06:42
DaemonFCYeah, among other things it saved a lot of RAM.Jul 22 06:42
DaemonFCYIM was too fun to pass up though.Jul 22 06:43
DaemonFCIt had so many bugs in it that between booters and YTunnelPro (I cracked it), I was basically in GOD MODE on YIM.Jul 22 06:43
britneyi saw too many penises in yahoo chatJul 22 06:43
DaemonFCYTunnelPro set up a local proxy for YIM and it was also a giant monkey patch.Jul 22 06:44
DaemonFCSo it added things like stopping other people from booting you, anti-SPAM puzzles before anyone could message you, blocking the advertisements in the client and video windows, etc.Jul 22 06:45
DaemonFCThen I could boot other people off the network and just ddos the crap out of them.Jul 22 06:45
DaemonFCSo I could boot spammers, people I suspected of being cops, perverts, etc. out of Indiana M4M.Jul 22 06:46
DaemonFCYIM didn't let the other person decide if you could have them on your buddy list.Jul 22 06:47
DaemonFCYou could add them just to see if they went offline as soon as you hit "boot".Jul 22 06:47
DaemonFCSit there and toy with them. From their perspective, it just looked like the program kept crashing for no reason.Jul 22 06:47
DaemonFCAnyway, Garrett.....Jul 22 06:56
DaemonFCHe should be sent to /dev/null permanently for Drama Bombing.Jul 22 06:57
DaemonFCHe has not one, but two blogs you can't even read with Free Software.Jul 22 06:57
DaemonFCNot that you really want to.Jul 22 06:57
mjg59_bagira: I'm not sure why you keep deadnaming my partnerJul 22 06:58
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DaemonFC"deadnaming" LOLJul 22 07:07
DaemonFCI knew it.Jul 22 07:07
DaemonFCAnd here's another drama bomb.Jul 22 07:08
bagirahe knows exactly why it keeps coming upJul 22 07:09
bagirathese topics that keep coming up are all one issueJul 22 07:09
bagiraDaemonFC: lol you're right though, he's got kind of a fly-back-and-reload thing going onJul 22 07:10
techrights-newsDell XPS 13 Plus is the first laptop certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS 22 07:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux MachinesJul 22 07:11
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techrights-newsThe very idea that the EPO‘s management will try to open the floodgates to European software patents isn’t surprising; Benoît Battistelli and António Campinos have never valued patent compliance or quality; now we have concrete evidence of a coordinated effort to open/widen these floodgates 22 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What the Latest EPO Leaks Teach Us About the Management’s Plans for Software Patents in Europe | TechrightsJul 22 07:12
bagiraoh i took his question as "name dropping", i didn't realize there was a new way of being offended inventedJul 22 07:12
bagira"deadnaming" is apparently "the act of referring to a transgender or non-binary person by a name they used prior to transitioning, such as their birth name.[1] Deadnaming may be accidental, or an intentional attempt to deny, mock or invalidate a person's gender identity."Jul 22 07:13
techrights-newsDoes Arch Linux Really Need A Guided Installer - Invidious ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Does Arch Linux Really Need A Guided Installer - InvidiousJul 22 07:13
britneybagira, yeah and mjg59_ has a valid complaintJul 22 07:13
britneydeadnaming is badJul 22 07:13
bagirawho's being deadnamed?  im not tracking yetJul 22 07:13
britney<mjg59_> bagira: I'm not sure why you keep deadnaming my partnerJul 22 07:14
britneymjg59_'s partnerJul 22 07:14
techrights-newsIt is NOT a "Linux command", it's Microsoft systemd 22 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sysctl Linux CommandJul 22 07:15
britneyi dont know who that is thoughJul 22 07:15
DaemonFCArch could probably use an easier installer option.Jul 22 07:15
DaemonFCI'm just too lazy to go through complicated installers these days when that's just not necessary anymore.Jul 22 07:15
DaemonFCI know HOW to, I just don't CARE to.Jul 22 07:15
britneyDaemonFC, you can use archinstallJul 22 07:15
DaemonFCWith all of the distributions out there that I can just hit next next, Chicago, next, reboot....Jul 22 07:16
britneyI installed arch linux using archinstallJul 22 07:16
DaemonFCWhy should I give a shit about something that's going to take up an entire day and make me read manuals?Jul 22 07:16
bagiradefendent in the todd case we're reviewing is "sarah reichwein" with "isis agora lovecruft" listed as an alias, not a legal nameJul 22 07:16
bagira*defendantJul 22 07:17
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DaemonFCRichard Stallman only makes a good point every now and then when it comes to anything not related to software.Jul 22 07:18
techrights-news"Third city to host free software related scientific research program for high school students" 22 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Institute for Computing in Research announces 6 students to inaugural Austin cohort - Software Freedom ConservancyJul 22 07:18
DaemonFCHis reason to not vote for the Republicans if you're a conservative who is not insane, is you'll like living in a theocracy even less than you like Joe Biden.Jul 22 07:18
psydruidglühwein and witchcraftJul 22 07:18
DaemonFCThe Democrats aren't doing this state any favors.Jul 22 07:19
techrights-newsLinux Distro Reviews: Desktop Environment Toolkits • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 07:19
DaemonFCTheir two planks economically seem to be run all of the jobs out and then tax the shit out of everyone else so they'll flee into the surrounding states.Jul 22 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Distro Reviews: Desktop Environment Toolkits | Tux MachinesJul 22 07:20
DaemonFCThe Democrats seem to want a base that is too small to win national power.Jul 22 07:20
DaemonFCAnd they'll get it.Jul 22 07:20
DaemonFCBy driving out the conservative wing of the party, those blue collar workers who would hand them swing districts.Jul 22 07:21
DaemonFCStallman seems to be on the right track with Biden. He posted an Onion article the other day that made me laugh.Jul 22 07:22
DaemonFC"With cratering approval ratings, Biden might have to do something popular."Jul 22 07:22
bagira 22 07:24
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 22 07:24
bagirain that filing it is stated that the defendant's name is Sarah Michelle Reichwein" and that they go by a fictitious name "Isis Agora Lovecruft", can you clarify mjg59_ -- if that is the legal name I can updateJul 22 07:25
DaemonFCI don't go on Twitter.Jul 22 07:26
DaemonFCOnly advertisers, politicians, and other cretins have Twitter.Jul 22 07:26
DaemonFCIt's a waste of my time.Jul 22 07:26
DaemonFCI tried to tell Roy it was a waste of his time.Jul 22 07:27
DaemonFCEventually they forced him out via automated moderation that he couldn't appeal.Jul 22 07:27
DaemonFCLike Facebook!Jul 22 07:27
schestowitz[TR2]noJul 22 07:27
schestowitz[TR2]that's not why I leftJul 22 07:27
britneyFacebook is trash but twitter is kinda coolJul 22 07:27
psydruidmost of my "interaction" with twitter is through a bot that queries itJul 22 07:27
schestowitz[TR2]that was just a small factorJul 22 07:28
schestowitz[TR2]btwJul 22 07:28
schestowitz[TR2]turns out quora is also bots nowJul 22 07:28
schestowitz[TR2]No-Quora Week gopher:// Quora became spamJul 22 07:28
schestowitz[TR2]use a gopher readeJul 22 07:28
schestowitz[TR2]langrance can handleJul 22 07:28
schestowitz[TR2]lagrangeJul 22 07:28
techrights-newsGnuastro 0.18 released • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Gnuastro 0.18 released | Tux MachinesJul 22 07:29
schestowitz[TR2]saying I left twitter due to the censorship is not correctJul 22 07:29
schestowitz[TR2]it's maybe one among 5 reasons and not even the top reasonJul 22 07:29
schestowitz[TR2]JS, manipulation, noise, lessened interaction, pushing and profiting off war etc.Jul 22 07:30
bagiracourt document from US District Court for the Northern District of California, a summons, listing "Sarah Michelle Reichwein" as legal and "Isis Agora Lovecruft" as an alias (that's what aka means): 22 07:30
britneyschestowitz[TR2],  oooo, i had no idea that lagrange also supported gopherJul 22 07:30
schestowitz[TR2]and spartan etc.Jul 22 07:30
schestowitz[TR2]titanJul 22 07:30
schestowitz[TR2]fingerJul 22 07:30
DaemonFCI noticed you said they were shadowbanning before the real ban came.Jul 22 07:30
schestowitz[TR2]kristall does basic htm/s tooJul 22 07:30
bagiraThat doesn't sound like deadnaming, that sounds like an attempt to avoid socialization of information in proper context.Jul 22 07:31
*psydruid deadnames the deadwoodJul 22 07:32
bagiraThough I have to say, it is consistent with his theme.Jul 22 07:34
*bagira lastlogsJul 22 07:34
britneyschestowitz[TR2], i tried kristall, not a fanJul 22 07:34
schestowitz[TR2]if is good if you like qtJul 22 07:35
schestowitz[TR2]lagrange is sdl2Jul 22 07:35
schestowitz[TR2]which sucksJul 22 07:35
schestowitz[TR2]for cross plaftosm's sakeJul 22 07:35
britneyi think qt sucks lolJul 22 07:35
schestowitz[TR2]it cannot even hhandle or coexist with the compositor in kdeJul 22 07:35
schestowitz[TR2]so it turns it offJul 22 07:35
bagiraqt is almost as horrible as gtkJul 22 07:35
DaemonFCI go by my middle name sometimes.Jul 22 07:36
britneyi use gnomeJul 22 07:36
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: I'm daemon f**ing CJul 22 07:36
bagiraI grew up being caled Toph until I was in my mid-20s and employers refused to call me by it.Jul 22 07:36
DaemonFCLOLJul 22 07:36
bagirapronounced like "t-awe-f"Jul 22 07:36
bagirasigned my name as it and everythingJul 22 07:37
DaemonFCYou should have told them they were ZOMGDEADNAMING you.Jul 22 07:37
bagirait was kind of a hard shift back to chris tbhJul 22 07:37
schestowitz[TR2]activelow says he goes by "Aggi"Jul 22 07:37
schestowitz[TR2]I guess short for AckermannJul 22 07:37
bagirai had never used itJul 22 07:37
DaemonFCAnd you'd personally have Matthew Garrett flown out there if they didn't stop it.Jul 22 07:37
bagirauntil i was like 26Jul 22 07:37
schestowitz[TR2]I don't think we can ever deradicalise that nazi sympathiserJul 22 07:37
schestowitz[TR2]we can only tryJul 22 07:37
DaemonFCGarrett said he was punched in the face over Colombian airspace.Jul 22 07:38
schestowitz[TR2]there must be hundreds if not thousands of ryan farmersJul 22 07:38
DaemonFCNo explanation.Jul 22 07:38
bagiraIt's okay to do it to me -- I'm a cis white male.  We are not as much people.Jul 22 07:38
schestowitz[TR2]my surname is rare, so I don't have that issueJul 22 07:38
schestowitz[TR2]also, most peoplr called roy are  dead or almost deadJul 22 07:39
DaemonFCActually, I have an explanation as to why someone punched Garrett on an airplane.Jul 22 07:39
DaemonFCProbably everyone who is in a room with him is tempted.Jul 22 07:39
bagirawasn't there a kids in the hall skit about thisJul 22 07:39
DaemonFCAnd one of them said, "Gee I'm in Colombian Airspace. Nobody here cares!" and fucking went for it.Jul 22 07:39
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: says uncle billJul 22 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]except Jul 22 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]not"fgucking went for isJul 22 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]but "went fucking for it"Jul 22 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]I have strong suspicion that he did thingsJul 22 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]but good luck proving itJul 22 07:40
schestowitz[TR2]they'd attack any witness claiming thatJul 22 07:40
DaemonFCIt's a violent filthy country where anything can happen.Jul 22 07:41
schestowitz[TR2]besides, he could be masked, just a watcher, etc.Jul 22 07:41
schestowitz[TR2]in some court documents they identified them based on the shape of their penisJul 22 07:41
schestowitz[TR2]so I assume they try to hide who they areJul 22 07:41
DaemonFCThen again, so are the cities in the US.Jul 22 07:41
bagirai think he's going to keep a low profile for a while, maybe pop out the other end all twitchy and angry because he can't roam free with this kind of exposureJul 22 07:41
bagirai meanJul 22 07:41
bagirahe can roam freeJul 22 07:41
bagirahe just can't do his usual bullshit Jul 22 07:42
schestowitz[TR2]In 2015 were were ion a flight next to a drunkardJul 22 07:42
schestowitz[TR2]racist drunkard whom the staff kept bringing beers too... until he spilled some on usJul 22 07:42
schestowitz[TR2]and almost got into a fight on the plane because he was racist to other passengersJul 22 07:42
schestowitz[TR2]later I confronted the air crewJul 22 07:43
schestowitz[TR2]over them bringing beer to an already arse-holish personJul 22 07:43
schestowitz[TR2]and seating him next to usJul 22 07:43
schestowitz[TR2]he kept talking shit, didn't know boundariesJul 22 07:43
schestowitz[TR2]but mostly abuse other passengersJul 22 07:43
schestowitz[TR2]turns out the airport staff barely want ed to let him go aboardJul 22 07:44
schestowitz[TR2]once he was aboard they tried to make money... selling him lots of beersJul 22 07:44
schestowitz[TR2]I only flew twice since thenJul 22 07:44
schestowitz[TR2] 22 07:45
schestowitz[TR2]also see:Jul 22 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » Getting Soaked in Beer at EasyJet flight When EasyJet Staff Foolishly Gives Plenty of Alcohol to Heroin AddictJul 22 07:45
schestowitz[TR2] 22 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » EasyJet Turns Away People With TicketsJul 22 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » Avoid EasyJetJul 22 07:46
schestowitz[TR2] 22 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » EasyJet Crashes… Into Worst Airline PositionJul 22 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » EasyJet Powered by Incompetence, Seemingly Requiring Passengers to Install Malware on Their Computers to Just Board a FlightJul 22 07:46
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]racist drunkard whom the staff kept bringing beers too... until he spilled some on usJul 22 07:46
DaemonFCAKA "Every flight ever."Jul 22 07:46
schestowitz[TR2] 22 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | #easyjetJul 22 07:46
DaemonFCThen people fart on you, recline on you, have their kids kick your seat.Jul 22 07:46
DaemonFCThen you get home and come down with the flu.Jul 22 07:47
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]once he was aboard they tried to make money... selling him lots of beersJul 22 07:47
DaemonFCYES, because they charge you like $9 a beer or some crazy shit like that.Jul 22 07:47
DaemonFCAnd it just all goes on your credit card.Jul 22 07:47
techrights-newsIndustrial IoT anomaly detection on microcontrollers | Arduino Blog ⚓ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Industrial IoT anomaly detection on microcontrollers | Arduino BlogJul 22 07:48
DaemonFCThe only time I drink anything on a plane is if it came with my flight, like a coffee, tea, orange juice, or can of soda.Jul 22 07:48
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: he bought life 4 beers in one goJul 22 07:48
schestowitz[TR2]see my post form 2015, I cannot remember all the details anymoreJul 22 07:48
schestowitz[TR2]I made many mental notesJul 22 07:48
DaemonFCSouthwest gives you a can of soda and a couple bags of peanuts.Jul 22 07:48
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schestowitz[TR2]so my main complaint is that they made an already dodigy f*** very drunkJul 22 07:48
schestowitz[TR2]I think when he spilled it on us they stopped serving himJul 22 07:49
DaemonFCOne time they brought me coffee, orange juice, and a complimentary breakfast because the flight was delayed.Jul 22 07:49
mateyso my main complaint is that they made an already dodigy f*** very drunkJul 22 07:49
mateyi have no idea what its about but it sounds funnyJul 22 07:49
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2]so my main complaint is that they made an already dodigy f*** very drunkJul 22 07:49
schestowitz[TR2]matey: 22 07:49
mateyohh yeahJul 22 07:49
DaemonFCThey can make thousands in one flight giving stupid assholes airplane bottles of liquor and beers.Jul 22 07:49
DaemonFCSo I mean, they'll never stop.Jul 22 07:50
mateyeasyjet has almost as many happy customers as comcastJul 22 07:50
bagiramatey: you missed the last drama bomb, apparently calling someone by their legal name instead of their alias as listed in recent court docs is "deadnaming"Jul 22 07:50
mateythey should mergeJul 22 07:50
DaemonFCWhat they do when they're drunk is your problem.Jul 22 07:50
mateythank you for flying comcast airJul 22 07:50
DaemonFCAnd the cops will probably arrest you after he attacks you.Jul 22 07:50
mateyif youd like to fly to cuba, press 1. if youd like to fly to the united arab emirates, press 2. if youd like to fly to north korea, press 3Jul 22 07:50
bagiramatey: i think if youre flying to NK someone pushes the button for you against your willJul 22 07:51
DaemonFCComcast now makes you go through an entire automated tree that takes like 45 minutes.Jul 22 07:51
mateyeither that or youre one of the worlds most ambitious christian missionariesJul 22 07:51
DaemonFCAnd only then are you allowed to speak to someone.Jul 22 07:51
matey <bagira> matey: you missed the last drama bomb, apparently calling someone by their legal name instead of their alias as listed in recent court docs is "deadnaming"Jul 22 07:51
techrights-newsBanana Pi BPI-W3 - An RK3588 SBC with dual Gigabit Ethernet, SATA, PCIe x4 slot - CNX Software ⚓ ䷉ ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Banana Pi BPI-W3 - An RK3588 SBC with dual Gigabit Ethernet, SATA, PCIe x4 slot - CNX SoftwareJul 22 07:52
DaemonFCThey're hoping that the Troubleshooter Filibuster will get rid of everyone who isn't having some major problem that needs a repair man.Jul 22 07:52
mateyif youre in favour of trans rights thats a complex issue and as such, theres no answer that can be rightJul 22 07:52
DaemonFCAnd then they get call volume down and fire people.Jul 22 07:52
mateyim in favour of trans rights, but im also against no-win situationsJul 22 07:52
mateyso it really depends what people are demanding hereJul 22 07:52
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bagirawell sure, but when we're talking about scandals, referring to a legal name is appropriate.  im not publishing a meet-and-greet invitationJul 22 07:53
techrights-newsTheengs open-source tools to decode BLE sensors work on ESP32, Raspberry Pi, Android phone, etc... - CNX Software ⚓ ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Theengs open-source tools to decode BLE sensors work on ESP32, Raspberry Pi, Android phone, etc... - CNX SoftwareJul 22 07:53
bagiraif someone uses a nickname use it in social situations, it's rude not toJul 22 07:53
mateywhose legal name did you refer to?Jul 22 07:53
mateya hint will do if youd rather not sayJul 22 07:53
DaemonFCI don't care about transgender people, but I wish that they'd stop having this victimhood mentality to the point where they're ready to scream at you all the time when you didn't actually do anything.Jul 22 07:53
mateyalternatively, what was the situation. im trying to see some specifics before i make a blanket statementJul 22 07:54
bagiramatey: apparently Sarah Reichwein is legal and Isis Lovecruft is an aliasJul 22 07:54
DaemonFCRMS was a victim of some trans women making unfounded accusations about transphobia.Jul 22 07:54
bagiramatey: garrett's fiance was an accuser in the appelbaum fiascoJul 22 07:54
DaemonFCI think after he was the one that told the FSF to go ahead and hire them.Jul 22 07:55
mateyjournalism is a right too... its complicated nowJul 22 07:55
DaemonFCI hope Appelbaum could do better than anything in Garrett's orbit.Jul 22 07:55
mateymatey: garrett's fiance was an accuser in the appelbaum fiasco <- this is what i was referring to other day when i didnt mention itJul 22 07:55
bagirai feel like the alias is used to divert social problems away from legal name in various search engines and yadda yaddaJul 22 07:55
mateyhes said openly that she was a victimJul 22 07:56
techrights-newsThe Perl Advent Calendar 2022 Call for Papers Is Now Open - ⚓ ䷉ Source: olafalders | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Perl Advent Calendar 2022 Call for Papers Is Now Open - olafalders.comJul 22 07:56
mateyas for people who consider their old name deadnaming even though they chose a female name to replace their dead name...Jul 22 07:56
*Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).Jul 22 07:56
bagiraidk manJul 22 07:56
DaemonFCI go by various names on "real name" social networks.Jul 22 07:56
bagiranone of my businessJul 22 07:56
mateyi dated someone who legally changed her name from the original because she hated her parentsJul 22 07:56
*Now talking on #techrightsJul 22 07:56
bagirai think the legal name is appropriate for this kind of thingJul 22 07:56
mateyin a social situation, it would be incredibly rude to call her a name she hasnt used in yearsJul 22 07:56
mateyin court documents... i mean she legally changed it so she can use the new oneJul 22 07:57
bagirai am not getting an indicator that she hasJul 22 07:57
matey<bagira> i think the legal name is appropriate for this kind of thing <- i think it probably depends on the situationJul 22 07:57
mateybut what do i knowJul 22 07:57
bagirashe is listed as "Sarah Michelle Reichwein aka Isis Agora Lovecruft" Jul 22 07:57
mateyoh god no wonder she changed itJul 22 07:57
mateyher deadname is PRACTICALLY buffy the vampire slayerJul 22 07:57
psydruidlolJul 22 07:58
bagirai dont think its a dead name if its her current legal nameJul 22 07:58
mjg59_bagira: Man it's cool that you've admitted to not reading the entire caseJul 22 07:58
mateyIsis Agora Lovecruft <- god must hate meJul 22 07:58
bagirathat would make isis lovecruft a nickname wouldn't it?Jul 22 07:58
mjg59_But also please stop misgendering my partnerJul 22 07:58
mateylook at these straightlines im being taunted withJul 22 07:58
matey Isis Agora Lovecruft <- so two of her names are companyJul 22 07:58
mateybut three is a crowdJul 22 07:59
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bagiramjg59_: man dont give me that "misgendering" bullshit, I have made no statements about this person's genderJul 22 07:59
mateyagoraphobia = fear of crowdsJul 22 07:59
bagiramjg59_: your bullshit is just continuously backfiring on youJul 22 07:59
mjg59_bagira: You keep using inappropriate pronounsJul 22 07:59
mjg59_I meanJul 22 07:59
bagiraits like you have a yard filled with rakes and you're just stepping on every one of them with abandonJul 22 07:59
mjg59_This is literally explained in the case you're referencingJul 22 07:59
mjg59_Which demonstrates you haven't read it allJul 22 07:59
DaemonFCSome banks will put tranny names on credit cards and say they don't care if it's your legal name. That must make it fun if someone asks you for your ID.Jul 22 08:00
bagiraoh for sure ive only skimmed through the docs at this pointJul 22 08:00
mateymjg: i only read this once, but its "they" isnt itJul 22 08:00
mjg59_matey: YupJul 22 08:00
mateyim fine with thatJul 22 08:00
DaemonFC"What's the matter? Store wouldn't accept your STOLEN credit card!?"Jul 22 08:00
DaemonFCOddly from a guy who played a transvestite in another movie.Jul 22 08:00
mateyi got thrown by the name for a minuteJul 22 08:00
mjg59_When you file a case, the court assumes that you put the right name on thereJul 22 08:01
matey/me wishes we would scrap gendered pronouns altogether and make life that much easierJul 22 08:01
mateyim not against gender, but there are other ways to express it besides "he/she/they" anywayJul 22 08:01
mateystallmans says its ambiguous. he also gave a talk somewhere that "tomorrow" and "yesterday" are the same wordJul 22 08:02
bagiraisis and agora are both typically feminine names, so, i mean, we can do a "they", but sarah to isis does not imply a gender change, and given that it's none of my business what's going on in some stranger's pants i shouldn't be expected to precog their pronouns until im toldJul 22 08:02
mateylanguage isnt perfect, but it could at least be easierJul 22 08:02
mateyi shouldn't be expected to precog <- you arent expected toJul 22 08:02
mateyeven "its maam!" thinks a correction is fair Jul 22 08:02
bagiraoddly enough, "they" screws up the english language in scenario descriptions involving multiple people like nothing elseJul 22 08:03
mjg59_Man if only you'd read the things you were making claims about before doing soJul 22 08:03
DaemonFCThe problem is people like Garrett don't care about facts.Jul 22 08:04
mjg59_Because you've just made it very clear you haven'tJul 22 08:04
bagirai have made no claims not based on what ive readJul 22 08:04
DaemonFCThe left wants to destroy reality and gaslight us into their own version.Jul 22 08:04
bagirayou're just not the victim you want to beJul 22 08:04
matey <mjg59_> Man if only you'd read the things you were making claims about before doing so <- gendered but still as vague as they, as it could be directed at one of two malesJul 22 08:04
bagiraangry? yes.  mistreated?  yes.Jul 22 08:04
bagirawoops.  i mean no.Jul 22 08:04
bagirayeah they is a gender neutral descriptorJul 22 08:05
techrights-newsOhio school teacher resigns and takes a job at Walmart because it pays better. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ ䷉ Source: baronhk | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ohio school teacher resigns and takes a job at Walmart because it pays better. – BaronHK's RantsJul 22 08:05
DaemonFCSo is "it".Jul 22 08:05
mateywhich is what makes it indispensible when you dont know someones genderJul 22 08:05
mjg59_bagira: You don't have a document that makes assertions about facts related to the case you're discussing?Jul 22 08:05
bagiramjg59_: eh?  sorry what bs are you on about?  im barely paying attention to you.Jul 22 08:06
*bagira busts out the buffalo trace private labelJul 22 08:06
mjg59_Yeah you definitely never talk about me when I'm not hereJul 22 08:06
bagiracan't beat a good single barrel selectJul 22 08:07
mateythe two are not mutually exclusiveJul 22 08:07
mjg59_Oh you absolutely canJul 22 08:07
matey/me is curious what mjgs favourite whiskey is, given where hes fromJul 22 08:07
bagiranot outside of scotland you can'tJul 22 08:07
mateys/whiskey/alcohol of choice/Jul 22 08:07
bagiraim not much of a bourbon person but i like this barrel because i bought it with friendsJul 22 08:07
*mjg59_ wanders over to the bottle of Hibiki 21Jul 22 08:07
bagirathese days its belvenie 17 doublewoodJul 22 08:08
bagiraharder to find since they discontinued itJul 22 08:08
bagiraive got a case of it im trying to make last through WWIIIJul 22 08:08
mjg59_matey: I was definitely a scotch person in the past, but I've warmed up to bourbon a lot since I got hereJul 22 08:08
matey/me had a very tasty stout today, which was a bit like a feather coming up, swinging at your face and missing you completelyJul 22 08:08
mjg59_And Irish whiskey is actually a lot closer to bourbon in profile, so that's niceJul 22 08:08
bagirairish whiskey is for when someone dies and scottish whiskey isnt aroundJul 22 08:09
mateyfunnily enough i never once got drunk until my 30s. and the bartender thought it was a hootJul 22 08:09
mateywhat if youre irish though?Jul 22 08:09
mateythen it still has to be scottish?Jul 22 08:09
bagiramatey: repent?Jul 22 08:09
mjg59_Depends whether you're from the north or the republicJul 22 08:09
techrights-newsOpenBSD current has moved to 7.2-beta ☛;sid=20220721122727 | Source: UndeadlyJul 22 08:09
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mjg59_There's the prod whiskey and the catholic whiskeyJul 22 08:10
mateyyou can drink both without a passportJul 22 08:10
mjg59_Although these days there's a shitload more catholic whiskeyJul 22 08:10
mateyyou cant mix them obviously, thats how you start troubleJul 22 08:10
techrights-news"When we designed gLinux Rodete (Rolling Debian Testing), we aimed at removing the two year upgrade cycle and instead spread out the load on the team throughout time." ☛ | Source: GoogleJul 22 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops | Google Cloud BlogJul 22 08:10
mjg59_Rodete is genuinely impressive as Debian derivatives goJul 22 08:11
matey you can drink both without a passpor <- this may be out of date nowJul 22 08:11
techrights-news[Old] Microsoft banned ☛ | Source: Next CloudJul 22 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Data protection: Microsoft 365 banned in Baden-Württemberg's schools. Suitable alternatives exist! - NextcloudJul 22 08:11
mateyi havent checked since brexitJul 22 08:11
mjg59_matey: Ireland and the UK are still part of a common travel area that predates the EUJul 22 08:11
bagirawe dont need distros based on distrosJul 22 08:11
bagiraits an intellectual trap for linuxJul 22 08:11
bagirawe need new distros cross-compiled from sourceJul 22 08:11
matey<bagira> we dont need distros based on distros <- aww but those are the most funJul 22 08:11
mateyand sometimes a distro really fucks up and needs fixedJul 22 08:12
mjg59_Rodete is compiled from sourceJul 22 08:12
techrights-news"To be fair: I do know quite a lot of users as well." ☛ | Source: Daniel StenbergJul 22 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I don’t know who uses my code | daniel.haxx.seJul 22 08:12
bagirayou're going to see a pipeline issue once the lfs guys start getting too oldJul 22 08:12
bagiraneeds to happen, like, nowJul 22 08:12
mateymjg already killed linux anywayJul 22 08:12
bagiraquite possiblyJul 22 08:12
techrights-news"Today on July 20 2022, curl turns exactly 8888 days old." ☛ | Source: Daniel StenbergJul 22 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curl is 8888 days old | daniel.haxx.seJul 22 08:13
bagira"but if i didn't build out the architecture to do it, it would have been worse where a community of hackers always find a way and always have found a way"Jul 22 08:13
psydruidwe need linux distros that are securely booted off the map of time and historyJul 22 08:13
mateyi wont pretend i miss it, though i am curious if it had a chance with tsoJul 22 08:13
bagirawe'll never knowJul 22 08:13
mjg59_Hey "Guy who killed Linux" does sound like a pretty good epitaphJul 22 08:14
mjg59_Eh Ted is knowledgeable in a small number of fieldsJul 22 08:14
bagirathough based on waht ive seen ts'o was far more qualified technicallyJul 22 08:14
matey"Guy who killed Linux" only tells the conclusion thoughJul 22 08:14
mateynot the storyJul 22 08:15
bagirai view the whole saga as deceptive, deliberate, and maliciousJul 22 08:15
mateyyou could sum that up in just as few wordsJul 22 08:15
mjg59_Well yeah we did just establish that you didn't read all the source material before forming opinionsJul 22 08:15
bagirayou're right, because im not a fucking toolJul 22 08:16
DaemonFCAs far as I know, Garrett only added Security Theater Boot.Jul 22 08:16
bagirai interact with informationJul 22 08:16
mateypersonally im most inclined to believe the story about his fiancee, for many reasonsJul 22 08:16
DaemonFCNot important things, like file systems and device drivers.Jul 22 08:16
bagirai haven't analyzed it enough yet to decide one way or the other what i think Jul 22 08:16
mateybut it doesnt help that we can more or less prove that the tso thing and the stallman thing are bullshitJul 22 08:16
DaemonFCYou can deal with Security Theater Boot by turning it off in the firmware setup and then never worrying about it fucking up your system again.Jul 22 08:16
bagiraDaemonFC: for nowJul 22 08:16
mateynow, i just said that doesnt necessarily have any impact on the other oneJul 22 08:16
DaemonFCYou don't get that deal with Garrett's recommendation of leaving it on.Jul 22 08:17
mateybut its unfortunateJul 22 08:17
*psydruid wonders when the people who "fixed" GNU/Linux will set their sights on *BSD and other operating systems in order to "fix" them tooJul 22 08:17
DaemonFCDue to some alleged threat that he forgot to take "Windows Boot Manager" off of when he blogged about malware in the boot path.Jul 22 08:17
DaemonFCbagiraDaemonFC: for nowJul 22 08:18
psydruid> You can deal with Security Theater Boot by turning it off in the firmware setup and then never worrying about it fucking up your system again.Jul 22 08:18
psydruidUntil OpenSUSE reenables it behind your backJul 22 08:18
mateydont run openscruseJul 22 08:18
DaemonFCBy the time you can't just turn Security Theater Boot off, you also won't have the firmware allow anything but Windows to boot anyway.Jul 22 08:18
psydruidthe ultimate scumbag's scumbag moveJul 22 08:18
DaemonFCSo mjg59_ is a tool.Jul 22 08:19
mateyit scruse with your systemJul 22 08:19
bagiralinux really is in a sad state compared to like 2010-2012Jul 22 08:19
DaemonFCAnd his implementation of Security Theater Boot doesn't help us at all.Jul 22 08:19
DaemonFCThe PC platform will need a replacement soon.Jul 22 08:19
bagiraits every distro man lolJul 22 08:19
mateylinux kernel 1991-2010Jul 22 08:19
DaemonFCMicrosoft is already trying to ruin everything else you can buy so there's no escape.Jul 22 08:20
mateyby the time it got old enough to drink, everyone using it needs to Jul 22 08:20
psydruidI want the PC platform to stay around for as long as possibleJul 22 08:20
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matey I want the PC platform to stay around for as long as possible <- /:)Jul 22 08:20
psydruidbecause if they put all their energy into it, we can use something else without worrying about that getting "fixed" tooJul 22 08:20
mateyoh, mmhmmJul 22 08:21
bagirathe only way to fix this is to build a whole new ecosystem and carefully filter corporate contributionsJul 22 08:21
mateyunionisation is the long way thereJul 22 08:21
mateyunionising?Jul 22 08:22
psydruidionisationJul 22 08:22
mateyi think a lot of tech people wouldnt want their own stuff sabotaged, if they had any say in the company fucking workers/customers overJul 22 08:22
mateyof course some wouldJul 22 08:22
mateyso we are assuming a democratic nature of the unionsJul 22 08:22
mateywhich it can be at timesJul 22 08:22
bagirait onlyu takes a couple of themJul 22 08:23
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bagirato bring the whole thing downJul 22 08:23
mateyits already down Jul 22 08:23
mateythey have no shields, their exhaust ports are open, as it wereJul 22 08:23
mateyand theyve assumed the positionJul 22 08:23
psydruidcorporations had control over computers because they were the only ones who could design, manufacture and sell themJul 22 08:23
mateythe problem that remains is the companies that have taken over are not downJul 22 08:24
psydruidfree hardware design has the potential to change all of thatJul 22 08:24
mateyjoin us now and build the hardwareJul 22 08:24
bagiraactually open source boards might seriously be a solutionJul 22 08:24
mateyand send rms a crate of lightbulbsJul 22 08:24
mateybecause he doesnt want to compile themJul 22 08:25
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psydruidisn't there trisquel (or whatever he uses) for lightbulbs?Jul 22 08:26
bagirawe're not going to get another rmsJul 22 08:26
mateynopeJul 22 08:26
bagiraor a tarvoldsJul 22 08:26
mateyoh, promise me there will never be another torvaldsJul 22 08:26
mateyi wont believe you but it sounds nice enoughJul 22 08:26
bagiradennis ritchie diedJul 22 08:27
mateythe pdp lives onJul 22 08:27
mateypart of ritchies genius was targeting the pdpJul 22 08:27
bagiraall the guys from bell labs that i know are too old now tooJul 22 08:27
mateyim not trying to take away the mountain of due creditJul 22 08:27
bagiraits just not there anymoreJul 22 08:27
bagirato recreateJul 22 08:27
bagiraif i had tons of funding and time to go to school i might be able to pull something off, hire a few peopleJul 22 08:28
mateythere are enough people to keep unix alive if they want toJul 22 08:28
bagirabut it wont be anything like what where we come fromJul 22 08:28
mateythe question is whether there are enough people to make stallmans promise a realityJul 22 08:28
mateyand by that i meanJul 22 08:28
mateyusers having control of their computingJul 22 08:29
mateycause trisquel is a jokeJul 22 08:29
bagirahow is guix btw?  Jul 22 08:29
mateyand duix is slanderJul 22 08:29
matey<bagira> how is guix btw? <- sadly it still existsJul 22 08:29
bagirathat bad huh?Jul 22 08:29
mateyi dont know, the developers are scantly better than lennartJul 22 08:30
mateyif the only os left was duix, id use an abacusJul 22 08:30
bagiraimagine if we found someone as good at creating things as matthew garrett was at "inadvertently" destroying thingsJul 22 08:30
mateytheo de raadt is close enoughJul 22 08:30
mateyhes just bound to say something rapey one of these days thoughJul 22 08:31
bagiralow eq?Jul 22 08:31
mateyno, i mean hes importantJul 22 08:31
bagiraoh a cast imageJul 22 08:31
bagirayeahJul 22 08:31
mateyalso hes canadian but was born without the politeness geneJul 22 08:31
bagirathe tides are changing with that though i thinkJul 22 08:32
mateyhes the personality equivalent of a black albinoJul 22 08:32
bagiraim actually slowly building the write up for archetype projection / typecasting used in those circles if i can ever get the time to compile it in my headJul 22 08:32
mateyjung came up with 16 archetypes because he never saw the internetJul 22 08:33
bagira"cookie cutter narratives"Jul 22 08:33
bagiramjg59_ is a great source of material because it's literally his entire personalityJul 22 08:33
techrights-news"Regarding computer programs (source code and object code) the policy refers to the European Union Public Licence (EUPL, Swedish version) and refers to the Joinup Licensing Assistant (JLA) for providing information about the open source licences content and compatibility." ☛ | Source: JoinupJul 22 08:34
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techrights-newsBanana Pi BPI-W3 - An RK3588 SBC with dual Gigabit Ethernet, SATA, PCIe x4 slot • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Banana Pi BPI-W3 - An RK3588 SBC with dual Gigabit Ethernet, SATA, PCIe x4 slot | Tux MachinesJul 22 08:35
bagirathe goal isnt to put one man in his place.  it's to build a knowledge base up that makes men like him impotent to their aims so that these events can never take place again.Jul 22 08:35
bagiraan entire subculture was propped up on group defamationJul 22 08:35
bagiraand im going to put a monkey wrench in that engine eventuallyJul 22 08:35
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bagirapeople will say what they want about it, truth's not a popularity contestJul 22 08:36
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techrights-newsTheengs open-source tools to decode BLE sensors work on ESP32, Raspberry Pi, Android phone, etc… • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 08:38
techrights-newsMélodie - no frills music player • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Theengs open-source tools to decode BLE sensors work on ESP32, Raspberry Pi, Android phone, etc… | Tux MachinesJul 22 08:38
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mateymjg is a projection of those beings into our universeJul 22 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mélodie - no frills music player | Tux MachinesJul 22 08:38
mateylike the miceJul 22 08:38
techrights-news[Old] "This page is a compilation of common mistakes made by bash users." ☛ |Jul 22 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | BashPitfalls - Greg's WikiJul 22 08:39
*schestowitz[TR2] did not know mr. security expert was a drunkard who gets punched on the plane while seeking professional mental helpJul 22 08:39
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schestowitz[TR2]but I'd rather talk tech hereJul 22 08:39
bagirasay what now about other universes?Jul 22 08:39
schestowitz[TR2] a lot of the stuff here is motyl off-putting off-topicJul 22 08:39
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schestowitz[TR2]and brings here confrontation that does not help techrightsJul 22 08:40
schestowitz[TR2]then the channel ends up being about sexJul 22 08:40
schestowitz[TR2]we used to joke it becomes "Sexrights"Jul 22 08:40
schestowitz[TR2]and we have many tech issues left to tackleJul 22 08:40
schestowitz[TR2]regarding sexJul 22 08:41
schestowitz[TR2]it can be on-topicJul 22 08:41
schestowitz[TR2]e.g. period tracking appsJul 22 08:41
bagiraare you sippin broJul 22 08:41
schestowitz[TR2]"smart" sex toysJul 22 08:41
schestowitz[TR2]but this problem is not limited to sexJul 22 08:41
schestowitz[TR2]bagira: you only came to this network to fight someoneJul 22 08:41
schestowitz[TR2]we also fightJul 22 08:41
schestowitz[TR2]but we fight on irssuesJul 22 08:41
mateymehJul 22 08:42
schestowitz[TR2]or orgs, like EPOJul 22 08:42
schestowitz[TR2]the bigger pictuireJul 22 08:42
schestowitz[TR2]not who sleeps with whoJul 22 08:42
schestowitz[TR2]when "aggi" activelow started spewing out political BS he branched off to #techpolJul 22 08:42
schestowitz[TR2]to keep that off this channelJul 22 08:42
schestowitz[TR2]when someone called "balzac" brought up sexual things in 2009 (IIRC) we created #boycottnovell-socialJul 22 08:43
matey<schestowitz[TR2]> not who sleeps with who <- unless its alex gravelyJul 22 08:43
bagirawhich channel do we share private messages in without consent of the other party?Jul 22 08:43
schestowitz[TR2]#techbytes was for the podcast originally, but we don't record as much (last episode 1+ years agofJul 22 08:43
schestowitz[TR2]matey: it's not about sleepingJul 22 08:43
schestowitz[TR2]it's about assaulting womenJul 22 08:43
schestowitz[TR2]suffocationJul 22 08:43
schestowitz[TR2]not just one womanJul 22 08:44
mateyi agree theres a distinctionJul 22 08:44
schestowitz[TR2]it's a sick, dangerous manJul 22 08:44
mateybut theres also overlapJul 22 08:44
schestowitz[TR2]and it seems to have led to the downfall of his friends at MicrosoftJul 22 08:44
techrights-news"Except it didn’t take a few months and $15k. It took eight months, $46k, and a lot of headache." ☛ | Source: Michael LynchJul 22 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Regret my $46k Website Redesign · mtlynch.ioJul 22 08:44
mateywhat? theyre a rape cultJul 22 08:44
schestowitz[TR2]worseJul 22 08:44
mateylike stallman isnt, except theres dozens of themJul 22 08:44
schestowitz[TR2]he seems a bit pedo tooJul 22 08:44
bagirastallman isnt a pedoJul 22 08:45
mateyno, hes being ambiguousJul 22 08:45
schestowitz[TR2]<xxx> He wanted to get his nails done by "tiny asian women"Jul 22 08:45
bagirahe just doesn't have any sense of social dangerJul 22 08:45
mateyhe means gravelyJul 22 08:45
bagiraohJul 22 08:45
mateylots of people get their nails done by tiny asian womenJul 22 08:45
schestowitz[TR2]> He wanted to get his nails done by "tiny asian women"Jul 22 08:45
schestowitz[TR2] 22 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XII — Life of Disorderly Conduct and Lust | TechrightsJul 22 08:46
mateyyou must mean little asian girlsJul 22 08:46
bagirathis BT barrell tastest just like cherry syrup.  i will miss it when the last bottle is gone.Jul 22 08:47
techrights-news"instructions for unsafe abortion methods" ☛ | Source: The VergeJul 22 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | YouTube says it will remove ‘unsafe’ DIY abortion guides - The VergeJul 22 08:47
bagirai love how theyre all like "ITS THE LAW" until it disagrees with their utopian vision Jul 22 08:48
mateystalinists are hypocrites by natureJul 22 08:48
bagirameans it was never about the law but appearance of legalityJul 22 08:49
mateythough im not sure what the context is :)Jul 22 08:49
bagiramjg59_: you know anything about that?Jul 22 08:49
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO: "This indiscriminate nature is compounded by the fact cyber-attacks are generally difficult to contain." ☛ | Source: India TimesJul 22 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ransomware is indiscriminatory – prepare for everything to fail, CIO News, ET CIOJul 22 08:49
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO: "the risk to businesses from the likes of ransomware" ☛ | Source: IT WireJul 22 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Cyberthreats impacting Australian and New Zealand businesses: FortinetJul 22 08:49
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO: "A notable example includes BlackCat and Hive" ☛ |Jul 22 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kaspersky puts spotlight on malicious ransomware group LunaJul 22 08:50
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Thursday, July 21, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, July 21, 2022 | TechrightsJul 22 08:50
bagiradude why is anyone in the west listening to kaspersky right nowJul 22 08:50
bagiragotta read the lay of the landJul 22 08:51
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techrights-news"According to a research by Consumer Reports in 2021, some of the popular mental health apps were sharing data with Meta and other companies" ☛ | Source: India TimesJul 22 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | mental wellbeing apps: Using mental wellbeing apps? Beware of safety and data breaches!, CIO News, ET CIOJul 22 08:53
techrights-news"Amazon’s latest acquisition in the health care industry." ☛ | Source: New York TimesJul 22 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Amazon to Acquire One Medical Clinics in $39 Billion Deal - The New York TimesJul 22 08:53
mateywhen i think of kaspersky i think of the twit tv guyJul 22 08:54
techrights-newsOur medical files are becoming "products" :/Jul 22 08:54
schestowitz[TR2]matey: leo laporte?Jul 22 08:54
schestowitz[TR2]kasperksy =russiaJul 22 08:54
schestowitz[TR2]laprte-=spanish/french/italian nameJul 22 08:54
mateyyeah but i mean by category, not by ancestryJul 22 08:55
mateyill take personal brands that peaked in the 90s, alexJul 22 08:56
mateyalex?Jul 22 08:56
mateyaww. bye alexJul 22 08:56
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techrights-newspseudocurrency ☛ |Jul 22 09:00
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techrights-news"Customs has seized bitcoins in connection with investigations into offences related to narcotics and doping substances." ☛ | Source: Helsinki TimesJul 22 09:01
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psydroid2leo kaspersky will hand your enemies the keyJul 22 09:01
techrights-news"So what have we learned here, friends? First of all, don’t do illegal things." ☛ | Source: The VergeJul 22 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Yes, crypto Twitter, the FBI is reading your tweets - The VergeJul 22 09:01
psydroid2twit for twatJul 22 09:01
bagira 22 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: 22 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Recreating Dennis Ritchie's PhD Thesis - Computerphile - InvidiousJul 22 09:02
techrights-newsWho can fix it? gemini:// "As far as “fault” go, I keep falling into the mind trap of conflating “who caused it” with “who can fix it”. Ultimately what matters is who can fix it."Jul 22 09:02
techrights-news<li><h5><a href="gemini://">Moving Drama</a></h5>Jul 22 09:03
techrights-news"We got all of the heavy items moved. I absolutely love the place we're moving to. It's a beautiful area, the apartment is nicer than our current place, and the rent is 25% cheaper" gemini:// 22 09:03
mateydennis ritchie or ken thompson even wrote a basic interpreter for unixJul 22 09:04
mateyi think thats funnyJul 22 09:04
mateythats like hawking being the host of "bill nye the science guy" except then it wouldnt be called thatJul 22 09:05
techrights-news"It was an introduction for many fans to Ticketmaster’s “dynamic pricing” program" ☛ | Source: VarietyJul 22 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bruce Springsteen Fans Furious as Ticketmaster Tix Go as High as $4-5K - VarietyJul 22 09:05
techrights-newsToo late. Too toxic, too. ☛ | Source: PC WorldJul 22 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rejoice! Facebook is organizing posts by time again | PCWorldJul 22 09:05
matey/me imagines davinci doing a show like bob rossJul 22 09:06
techrights-newsTwitter is oligarchs' propaganda machine ☛ | Source: WSWSJul 22 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Twitter locks Socialist Equality Party (Australia) account over video defending Dr David Berger, Julian Assange and free speech - World Socialist Web SiteJul 22 09:06
matey"i like to make my smiles kind of weird. and the best thing about the proportions in the background is you can do whatever you want"Jul 22 09:06
techrights-news"After all, the huge number does not mean that there are almost 30 million potential victims." ☛ | Source: NetzpolitikJul 22 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NCMEC figures explained: How the spectre of millionfold abuse haunts European policy-makersJul 22 09:06
matey"its your painting, if you want to fill it with illuminati symbolism"Jul 22 09:07
techrights-news"the protection of speech and the promotion of the free flow of information—reflected American values." ☛ |Jul 22 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Confronting Reality in Cyberspace Foreign Policy for a Fragmented InternetJul 22 09:07
matey/me puts a happy little jesus in the middle of the tableJul 22 09:07
bagiralol @ illuminatiJul 22 09:08
techrights-news"Users of social media sites often don’t know what algorithms are filtering the information they consume" ☛ | Source: Broadband BreakfastJul 22 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Americans Should Look to Filtration Software to Block Harmful Content from View, Event Hears : Broadband BreakfastJul 22 09:08
bagirathe bavarian illuminati died as quickly as they sprung up and never had much influenceJul 22 09:08
mateywho invented bavarian creme donuts thenJul 22 09:09
bagiramatey: they tried to infiltrate another fraternal organization and ended up failing at that too, and were completely neutered in the processJul 22 09:10
mateyand were completely neutered in the process <- given the time period i suspect you could mean physicallyJul 22 09:10
bagirano metaphoricallyJul 22 09:10
techrights-newsWWW killing journalism further. "Since the frenzy of Big Media consolidation that rocked the 1980s..." ☛ | Source: The NationJul 22 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Save Local News. Our Democracy Depends On It. | The NationJul 22 09:10
bagirait backfired on themJul 22 09:10
techrights-newsNews deserts in the age of WWW ☛ | Source: The Washington PostJul 22 09:10
mateybut its way more fun if they control our minds with taylor swift videosJul 22 09:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | Save local news. Our democracy depends on it - The Washington PostJul 22 09:11
mateyand donutsJul 22 09:11
bagirathey literally died hundreds of years agoJul 22 09:11
mateytheyd have to develop reincarnationJul 22 09:11
bagiraWeishaupt was a jokeJul 22 09:12
bagirathey tried to corrupt a place that builds literal civilizationJul 22 09:12
mateycivilisation is at least a little corrupt alreadyJul 22 09:12
bagirathats because the builders aren't as involvedJul 22 09:13
bagirawe dont take as many risksJul 22 09:13
techrights-news"The era of the global [Internet] is over. Washington has worked closely over the last three decades with the private sector and allies to promote a vision of a global, open, secure, and interoperable [Internet]" ☛ |Jul 22 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Introduction - Confronting Reality in Cyberspace Foreign Policy for a Fragmented InternetJul 22 09:13
mateystart with the gravitational constant of the universeJul 22 09:14
mateyassuming it existsJul 22 09:14
bagiraim not fully convinced that gravity existsJul 22 09:14
mateywhats the alternative?Jul 22 09:14
bagirathe curving of space by massJul 22 09:14
techrights-news"Boost Apache Camel performance on Quarkus" ☛ | Source: Red Hat OfficialJul 22 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Choosing the right Camel for your rideJul 22 09:15
mateythis isnt a flat earther thing is itJul 22 09:15
bagiralol noJul 22 09:15
mateyjust making sureJul 22 09:15
techrights-news"This article suggests several traditional things to do after we finished the installation of Kubuntu 22.04 with KDE Plasma 5.24." ☛ | Source: UbuntubuzzJul 22 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What Do After Installing Kubuntu 22.04 and KDE Plasma 5.24Jul 22 09:15
techrights-news#HowTo Reset MySQL Root Password in Ubuntu and Fix Error 1045 (28000) • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Reset MySQL Root Password in Ubuntu and Fix Error 1045 (28000) | Tux MachinesJul 22 09:16
mateybecause i swear one said theres no gravity or something, someone asked why the atmosphere clings to earthJul 22 09:16
mateyand they said "because gax expands to fill the spaceJul 22 09:16
mateywith such convictionJul 22 09:17
mateyfrom now on whenever i talk about flat earthersJul 22 09:17
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mateyim going to refer to them as the new illuminatiJul 22 09:17
bagirathat sounds pretty dumbJul 22 09:17
mateyilluminewbiesJul 22 09:17
mateythe curving of space by mass <- but umJul 22 09:18
schestowitz[TR2]newnuttiesJul 22 09:18
schestowitz[TR2]neonutsJul 22 09:18
mateythe thing that mass curves space with...Jul 22 09:18
mateyisnt... gravity?Jul 22 09:19
techrights-newsSome "success" story for "the system"... while the regime bails out BILLIONAIRES 22 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | For First Time in Modern Era, Living With Parents Edges Out Other Living Arrangements for 18- to 34-Year-Olds | Pew Research CenterJul 22 09:20
techrights-newsold: Home | European Citizens’ Initiative ⚓ ䷉ Source: europa | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Home | European Citizens' InitiativeJul 22 09:20
techrights-newsLucky Ducky solves inflation | Boing Boing ⚓ ䷉ Source: boingboing | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lucky Ducky solves inflation | Boing BoingJul 22 09:20
bagiraonly one bottle left :(Jul 22 09:21
matey 22 09:21
techrights-newsold: "He went dancing, took driving lessons and traveled up and down the Japanese islands. But he found himself a stranger in a strange land, disillusioned with materialism and overwhelmed by changes." 22 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bob Ross vs Pablo Picasso. Epic Rap Battles of History - InvidiousJul 22 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Hiroo Onoda, Soldier Who Hid in Jungle for Decades, Dies at 91 - The New York TimesJul 22 09:21
techrights-newsHiroo Onoda, Japanese soldier who spent 29 years hiding in jungle after World War II, dies aged 91 - ABC News ⚓ ䷉ Source: abc | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Hiroo Onoda, Japanese soldier who spent 29 years hiding in jungle after World War II, dies aged 91 - ABC NewsJul 22 09:21
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techrights-newsErdoğan links soaring inflation to 2016 coup attempt ⚓ ䷉ Source: duvarenglish | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Erdoğan links soaring inflation to 2016 coup attemptJul 22 09:23
bagiralol wutJul 22 09:23
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techrights-newsNew Internal Documents may Escalate Antitrust Case Against Google, Amazon - SoylentNews ⚓ ䷉ Source: soylentnews | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | New Internal Documents may Escalate Antitrust Case Against Google, Amazon - SoylentNewsJul 22 09:24
bagiramaybe if he spent less time trying to blame global inflation on a coup attempt 8 years ago and more time paying attention to his kids they wouldn't be wrapped up in international terrorismJul 22 09:24
techrights-newsBillBC: let's be hatin' on Russia and not mention crimes of our sponsor Bill Gates ⚓ ䷉ Source: bbc | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia 'looting' steel bound for Europe and UK, says Metinvest boss - BBC NewsJul 22 09:25
mateymaybe if he spent less time trying to blame global inflation on a coup attempt 8 years ago and more time paying attention to his kids they wouldn't be wrapped up in international terrorism <- words to live byJul 22 09:25
bagira*6Jul 22 09:26
techrights-news"OK6254-C Single Board Computer (SBC)" ☛ | Source: Linux GizmosJul 22 09:26
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techrights-news"The ESP32-C3-DevKit-RUST-1 is a development board that features the RISC-V architecture through the single-core ESP32-C3" ☛ | Source: Linux GizmosJul 22 09:26
mateymaybe if he spent less time trying to blame global inflation on a coup attempt 6 years ago and more time paying attention to his kids they wouldn't be wrapped up in international terrorism <- words to live byJul 22 09:26
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mateyapparently "come and get your love" by redbone is the most infectious song in historyJul 22 09:27
mateyand i was sure when they said 70s song they were going to say ymcaJul 22 09:28
techrights-newsMicrosoft crimes OK, just not pseudocurrency? ☛ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mojang say no to NFTs and blockchain with Minecraft | GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:28
techrights-news"MangoHud is a great performance overlay for Linux" ☛ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOverlay for configuring the MangoHud performance overlay new release out | GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:28
matey/me likes that the navy used "in the navy" until they realised it was a gay anthemJul 22 09:29
matey"wait wait wait no no no not what we meant"Jul 22 09:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 22 09:30
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techrights-newsEx-Zodiac ☛ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ex-Zodiac is a fast-paced 3D rail shooter inspired by the likes of Star Fox out now | GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:30
bagiramatey: 22 09:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Katz's Delicatessen - Jerry Lewis sings "Send A Salami" - InvidiousJul 22 09:30
techrights-news"This is a Native GNU/Linux game" ☛ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get the Railway Empire Complete Collection in this new bundle | GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:31
mateylolJul 22 09:31
mateyclassicJul 22 09:31
techrights-news"NVIDIA has released a fresh upgrade to their special developer-focused Vulkan Beta Drivers with version 515.49.10" ☛ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan Beta Driver 515.49.10 out now for Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 22 09:32
mateygiving a submarine full of men nothing but beans seems like another thing that should violate the geneva conventionJul 22 09:32
mateynot to mention strategic failureJul 22 09:33
techrights-news"Then you notice that any event in your merge request (a new comment, a tag change) triggers the pipeline." ☛ | Source: OpenSource.comJul 22 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Create conditional pipelines with CEL | Opensource.comJul 22 09:33
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techrights-news"Design Thinking has been providing a way to enhance problem solving within teams" ☛ | Source: OpenSource.comJul 22 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How movie posters inspire engagement on our open source team | Opensource.comJul 22 09:34
bagiralol while useful, most teams reject design thinking, thats nonsenseJul 22 09:36
techrights-news"Common Expression Language (CEL) is an expression language created by Google. It allows to define constraints that can be used to validate input data." 22 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Playing with Common Expression LanguageJul 22 09:36
bagira 22 09:37
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techrights-news"Like a 100x (not joking) improvement." This simply means somebody wrote very very very every shitty code before maybe Sage Sharp at Intel? Whose shitty code upset Torvalds?Jul 22 09:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | anv: allocate RT scratch in local memory (!17674) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLabJul 22 09:37
bagiraouch @ sage sharp dig.  that echoes man.Jul 22 09:38
matey 22 09:39
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schestowitz[TR2]code has feelings, tooJul 22 09:40
schestowitz[TR2]code does not have 6-figure salaryJul 22 09:41
mjg59_Huh if only git had some way to tell you who had written codeJul 22 09:41
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mjg59_Perhaps if we did that we could find out who wrote the code rather than casting baseless assertionsJul 22 09:43
mjg59_That's what someone who cared about the truth would do, right?Jul 22 09:43
mateycode does not have 6-figure salary <- you wouldnt download a car!Jul 22 09:45
mateyin soviet tesla, car downloads youJul 22 09:45
schestowitz[TR2]"it's not you, it's me"Jul 22 09:46
mateyi wouldnt take a poo in a policemans helmet and then give it to his grieving widowJul 22 09:46
schestowitz[TR2]"it's not your skin colour, it's your code"Jul 22 09:46
mateylolJul 22 09:46
mateyyou, but its funnier nowJul 22 09:46
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mateyits not your code, its the way youre every kind of bigot we could list but not reallyJul 22 09:46
mateyjust kidding diddy, you know i love youJul 22 09:47
techrights-news"Roger (radky in the forum) has bumped JWMDesk, now version 3.5.4. EasyOS 4.2.7 has JWMDesk 3.5.2" 22 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | JWMDesk version 3.5.4Jul 22 09:48
matey 22 09:48
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schestowitz[TR2]it's a support mechanismJul 22 09:48
schestowitz[TR2]aJul 22 09:48
schestowitz[TR2]cuddle club of sortsJul 22 09:48
schestowitz[TR2]coping mechanismJul 22 09:48
schestowitz[TR2]"my work is great"Jul 22 09:48
schestowitz[TR2]"it's just those bigots"Jul 22 09:49
schestowitz[TR2]instead of improving the workJul 22 09:49
bagirasuch victim much wowJul 22 09:49
schestowitz[TR2]and then using that outlet ti try to tear down those whose work was betterJul 22 09:49
schestowitz[TR2]managers do this a lotJul 22 09:49
techrights-news"Roger (radky in the forum) has bumped Pup-SysInfo to version 3.5..." 22 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Pup-SysInfo version 3.5Jul 22 09:49
schestowitz[TR2]managers who NEVER code LOLJul 22 09:49
schestowitz[TR2]"gavin, can you make it faster?"Jul 22 09:49
schestowitz[TR2]says the manager who doesn't even know how code worksJul 22 09:50
schestowitz[TR2]btw, what code did steve jobs write?Jul 22 09:50
schestowitz[TR2]just wonderingJul 22 09:50
schestowitz[TR2]I know he's a bit technicalJul 22 09:50
schestowitz[TR2]but no wozniakJul 22 09:50
schestowitz[TR2]"make this ipod smaller"Jul 22 09:50
schestowitz[TR2]=GENIUSJul 22 09:50
bagirajobs was a product managerJul 22 09:51
bagiraand nothing he did would translate to any other person in any other industryJul 22 09:51
bagirathat is the beginning and end of his skilsetsJul 22 09:51
mateynothing he did would translate to some users eitherJul 22 09:51
techrights-newsNot about Linux, just recycling and devaluing the brand 22 09:52
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mateydont put a button on the door of the cd drive! Jul 22 09:52
mateyput it on the keyboardJul 22 09:52
bagiraroy is actually spot on thereJul 22 09:52
bagirainstead of "how do i make better contributions" or "name isnt changed yet" it's "why are you deadnaming my fiance"Jul 22 09:53
techrights-newsWhen Linux Foundation links its authors/staff to a page it's actually a Microsoft site and proprietary software; one might be led to thing LF is an offshoot of MicrosoftJul 22 09:53
bagiraor "ted ts'o is a rape apologist"Jul 22 09:53
bagirait gets worse the more i readJul 22 09:54
mateystallman is hitler and harvey weinstein rolled into one! hes an okay guy but it was time to move onJul 22 09:55
mjg59_Oh man bad news that code was written by Jason Ekstrand in 2020 way after Sage had stopped working for Intel :(Jul 22 09:55
schestowitz[TR2]<matey> dont put a button on the door of the cd drive! Jul 22 09:56
schestowitz[TR2]not on the door, which movesJul 22 09:56
schestowitz[TR2]or add a pauseJul 22 09:56
schestowitz[TR2]making proprietary keyboards and crosss-component signal passing is bad tooJul 22 09:56
schestowitz[TR2]but apple idiotcs don't mind buying overpriced compoinentsJul 22 09:56
schestowitz[TR2]and proiprietrary cd drivesJul 22 09:56
schestowitz[TR2]so..Jul 22 09:57
matey or add a pause <- some pc cdrom drives had thisJul 22 09:57
mateyplay/pause buttons on the cd driveJul 22 09:57
mateyheadphone jackJul 22 09:57
schestowitz[TR2]I had oneJul 22 09:58
bagiraim down for the night.  i can barely see this screen anymore lolJul 22 09:58
schestowitz[TR2]but I meant pause between eject press and motionJul 22 09:58
schestowitz[TR2]so you have time to move the fingeer awayJul 22 09:58
schestowitz[TR2]and maybe slow down the spinJul 22 09:58
schestowitz[TR2]if any spinJul 22 09:58
schestowitz[TR2]rotationJul 22 09:58
matey/me puts a jogwheel on the cd driveJul 22 09:58
schestowitz[TR2]with most cr-rom drives the button is near the door, not on itJul 22 09:58
schestowitz[TR2]I have some laptops with cd drivesJul 22 09:59
schestowitz[TR2]some have the button on the doorJul 22 09:59
schestowitz[TR2]but it adds a pauseJul 22 09:59
schestowitz[TR2]before unlockingJul 22 09:59
schestowitz[TR2]when cd drives had playback buttons on them I think that hbypassed the computer/cpuJul 22 10:00
mateyhonestly, most of the drives ive used pause before opening even when the button isnt on the doorJul 22 10:00
schestowitz[TR2]and just sent the signal straught to the jackJul 22 10:00
mateybut yeah its more important if youre pressing the door Jul 22 10:00
schestowitz[TR2]so that you can offload the processing to the driveJul 22 10:00
schestowitz[TR2]and the drives have spingers to bouce open the trayJul 22 10:00
schestowitz[TR2]now they don't do mecanicsJul 22 10:00
schestowitz[TR2]mechanics like springsJul 22 10:00
schestowitz[TR2]it's all "Smart"Jul 22 10:01
schestowitz[TR2]even the SD cardsJul 22 10:01
schestowitz[TR2]they have this press in, press to unlockJul 22 10:01
schestowitz[TR2]no springsJul 22 10:01
matey 22 10:01
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schestowitz[TR2]good microwaves still have springsJul 22 10:01
schestowitz[TR2]many other kitchen appliancesJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]and clocksJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]that works wellJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]same for oven timersJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]those can last decadesJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]if they're fully digital they can have issues within yearsJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]and you cannot find replacement boardsJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]so must buy a new oneJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]mechanical = lasts longer, usuallyJul 22 10:02
mateydigital springs are impossible Jul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2](i.e. NOT good for SALES)Jul 22 10:02
mateysprings are analogJul 22 10:02
mateyif its on or off, theres no spring actionJul 22 10:02
schestowitz[TR2]"no SPRINGD attached"Jul 22 10:03
mateyits either sprung or unsprungJul 22 10:03
mateybut theres no springingJul 22 10:03
schestowitz[TR2]fixing things with springs can be simplerJul 22 10:03
schestowitz[TR2]with finer scredriverJul 22 10:03
schestowitz[TR2]or you can do manual workaroundsJul 22 10:03
schestowitz[TR2]like tweezersJul 22 10:03
schestowitz[TR2]with digital, you arer f'edJul 22 10:03
schestowitz[TR2]semiconductors don't age wellJul 22 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]not gracefullyJul 22 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]unless they are made of high fidelityy componentsJul 22 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]which only "famous" brands doJul 22 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]and then charge you like 5 times moreJul 22 10:04
mateytheyre also terrible with trainsJul 22 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]trains have digital malfunctions nowJul 22 10:04
schestowitz[TR2]like doors that won't openJul 22 10:04
mateycasey jones was a semiconductorJul 22 10:04
mateyi suppose if you used to be train conductor Jul 22 10:05
mateyand then got a truck licenseJul 22 10:05
schestowitz[TR2]soon we'll have m,any toilets that won\t' flushJul 22 10:05
mateyyou could be a semiconductorJul 22 10:05
schestowitz[TR2]need to mchange some circuitryJul 22 10:05
schestowitz[TR2]not simle mehcnicsJul 22 10:05
mateysoon we'll have m,any toilets that won\t' flush <- if hp made toiletsJul 22 10:05
schestowitz[TR2]like buoy and rods Jul 22 10:06
mateyit would refuse to flush if the tank was half emptyJul 22 10:06
mateythen youd have to remove the tank, buy a new one and place it on top of the toiletJul 22 10:06
schestowitz[TR2]they also do DRM on brandsJul 22 10:06
schestowitz[TR2]"inauthentic" componentJul 22 10:06
schestowitz[TR2]"welcome to your new toiletg experience, plase select wifi network"Jul 22 10:06
schestowitz[TR2](don't choose the nieghbours'!!)Jul 22 10:07
schestowitz[TR2]*neighJul 22 10:07
schestowitz[TR2]I reckon many "modern" toilets come with "apps" nowJul 22 10:08
schestowitz[TR2]but did not check, lack the interestJul 22 10:08
schestowitz[TR2]liuterally "cApps"Jul 22 10:08
schestowitz[TR2]*crAppsJul 22 10:08
schestowitz[TR2]write code for your own toilets?Jul 22 10:10
schestowitz[TR2]no, it's "closed source"Jul 22 10:10
schestowitz[TR2]any attempt to change it would be vilified as "elitist"Jul 22 10:11
mateybut do they allow fart apps?Jul 22 10:11
schestowitz[TR2]farpps?Jul 22 10:11
matey 22 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apple to Developers: 'We Don't Need Any More Fart Apps' | Cult of MacJul 22 10:11
psydroid2Secure Boot pals at Intel are going to live in interesting timesJul 22 10:12
matey 22 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Buzz Out Loud 1304: Apple: Only professional fart apps allowed (podcast) - CNETJul 22 10:12
mateya fart wearing a tieJul 22 10:12
schestowitz[TR2]psydroid2: this is not a dick-sucking competitionJul 22 10:12
mateynot a bathrobeJul 22 10:12
schestowitz[TR2]an "old fart"Jul 22 10:12
matey<schestowitz[TR2]> psydroid2: this is not a dick-sucking competition <- what if it is and no one told usJul 22 10:12
mateywe would be dicksqualifiedJul 22 10:13
schestowitz[TR2]guys,Jul 22 10:13
schestowitz[TR2]come onJul 22 10:13
schestowitz[TR2]if you want to d*oat Microsoft...Jul 22 10:14
mateyzingJul 22 10:14
schestowitz[TR2]but anyway, he can't talk like this anymoreJul 22 10:14
schestowitz[TR2]it can cost another month at the therapistsJul 22 10:14
schestowitz[TR2]unnecessary "tratment"Jul 22 10:14
schestowitz[TR2]microsdoft = pentagon contractorJul 22 10:14
schestowitz[TR2]rejecting microsoft = kicing puppiesJul 22 10:14
schestowitz[TR2]things not to do:Jul 22 10:15
psydroid2Intel is essentially blackmailing its partners now by threatening to increase prices later this year while having overstock because people aren't buying enough of their hardwareJul 22 10:15
schestowitz[TR2]1) kick puppiesJul 22 10:15
schestowitz[TR2]2) bash [sic] MicrosoftJul 22 10:15
schestowitz[TR2] 22 10:15
mateyBUY NOW or it will have even LESS APPEAL later!Jul 22 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Crime: A Week Later No Investigation Launched, No Microsoft Executives Prosecuted, Nobody Phoned the Police, Not Even a Slap on the Wrist | TechrightsJul 22 10:15
schestowitz[TR2]"STOP BASHING MEEEE!!!'Jul 22 10:15
mateynext up: buy our chips now because the next ones will suck even more!Jul 22 10:16
psydroid2people do see through it allJul 22 10:16
schestowitz[TR2]if you bash them too much ballmer will hold you by both thighs while alex graveley suffocates you by the neckJul 22 10:17
schestowitz[TR2]then bill comes alongJul 22 10:17
schestowitz[TR2]"well, he's dead"Jul 22 10:17
psydroid2most people don't have nuclear facilities in their backyards to be able to run these processorsJul 22 10:17
schestowitz[TR2]billG mocked OLPCJul 22 10:18
schestowitz[TR2]having a crankJul 22 10:18
schestowitz[TR2]for powerJul 22 10:18
schestowitz[TR2]rich little momma's boyJul 22 10:18
schestowitz[TR2]never had to work to generate energyJul 22 10:18
schestowitz[TR2]grew up with oligarchsJul 22 10:18
mateyironically, paul allen spent a fuckload of a money on a computer with a crank on itJul 22 10:20
mateyof course it was designed by charles babbageJul 22 10:20
mateybut paul allen just had to have oneJul 22 10:20
schestowitz[TR2]well, he's deadJul 22 10:21
schestowitz[TR2]did he get buries with the memorablia?Jul 22 10:21
mateyno, hes just pulling our crankJul 22 10:21
schestowitz[TR2]btw, he wanted a custom-made yacht to make it the longest everJul 22 10:21
schestowitz[TR2]so you know paul allen had a very short whatsitsnameJul 22 10:21
matey 22 10:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Hugh Laurie - Too Long Johnny - InvidiousJul 22 10:22
mjg59_The crank was a terrible ideaJul 22 10:22
mjg59_Ergonomics just didn't workJul 22 10:22
mjg59_They came up with a yo-yo charger thing that was a much better ideaJul 22 10:22
mateyone windows per childJul 22 10:26
schestowitz[TR2] 22 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OLPC - TechrightsJul 22 10:26
psydroid2restricted to booting windowsJul 22 10:26
psydroid2or you will be subjected to an unhealthy dose of pluton(ium)Jul 22 10:27
mateyfrom the plutarchyJul 22 10:29
mateythe free software plutarchyJul 22 10:30
mateyusers should control their computingJul 22 10:30
mateysome users should just control it more than othersJul 22 10:30
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mateyjeffery epstein: OCPLJul 22 10:39
schestowitz[TR2]"epsteined" is a verb nowJul 22 10:41
schestowitz[TR2]used a lot when Ivana Trump died this monthJul 22 10:41
schestowitz[TR2]or "to epstein someone"Jul 22 10:41
techuserwhat does it mean?Jul 22 10:42
schestowitz[TR2]how he diedJul 22 10:42
schestowitz[TR2]aand whyJul 22 10:42
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schestowitz[TR2]did not ehlp with his friends and enablers gloatedJul 22 10:44
schestowitz[TR2]"well, he's dead"Jul 22 10:44
schestowitz[TR2]with reliefJul 22 10:44
schestowitz[TR2]that already knew what he had doneJul 22 10:44
schestowitz[TR2]and likely participated cdirectlyJul 22 10:44
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techrights-news"The latest edition of YouTube's copyright transparency report reveals that the streaming platform processed almost 1.5 billion Content ID claims" ☛ | Source: Torrent FreakJul 22 11:04
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techrights-news"The COVID-19 pandemic has added to all of this, with mass unemployment in 2020 and 2021 signaling capitalism’s inability to handle a public health crisis." ☛ | Source: Counter PunchJul 22 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eviction Defense in Brooklyn - CounterPunch.orgJul 22 13:02
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techrights-news"a fundamental underlying problem is that there is no semantics of a link in HTML or gemtext so we cannot infer the type of relationship between any two pages. it's good to explore alternatives" gemini:// 22 13:04
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techrights-news"Fr. Thermos talked about premodern, modern, and postmodern thought, and what that means with regards to Christianity. I was surprised to see mention of The Spectacle in his talk." gemini:// 22 13:04
techrights-news"U.S. state and federal investigators are being inundated with reports from people who’ve lost hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in connection with a complex investment scam" ☛ | Source: Krebs On SecurityJul 22 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Massive Losses Define Epidemic of ‘Pig Butchering’ – Krebs on SecurityJul 22 13:07
techrights-news"Introducing children to computing concepts from a young age can help develop their interest and attachment to the subject." ☛ | Source: Raspberry PiJul 22 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Computing Course Pathways - Teaching Computing To 5- To 11-Year-OldsJul 22 13:07
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techrights-newsPatent scam that kills. "The pharmaceutical industry is mobilizing its army of Capitol Hill lobbyists in a last-ditch bid" ☛ | Source: Common DreamsJul 22 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Pharma Mobilizes Army of Lobbyists to Tank Democrats' Medicare Drug Pricing PlanJul 22 13:09
techrights-newsX86 Code ☛ | Source: HackadayJul 22 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tiny Pinball Machine Also Runs X86 Code | HackadayJul 22 13:10
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techrights-news"You don't need to play glitchy PC games to experience the cyberpunk capitalist dystopia." ☛ | Source: Common DreamsJul 22 13:13
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techrights-newsJoysticks ☛ | Source: HackadayJul 22 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building A Modular Joystick For Star Citizen | HackadayJul 22 13:15
techrights-news"It’s seems to have become accepted wisdom by many — including policymakers — that social media is dangerous for kids." ☛ | Source: TechdirtJul 22 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blaming Social Media For Suicide Is Taking The Easy, And Likely Wrong, Way Out | TechdirtJul 22 13:16
techrights-news"our hands naturally wrap around the back of the phone, too." ☛ | Source: HackadayJul 22 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Turning The Back Of Your Phone Into A Touchpad | HackadayJul 22 13:17
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techrights-news"It’s hardly a secret that upload filters don’t work well." ☛ | Source: TechdirtJul 22 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Is So Sure Its Erroneous Blocking Of Music Is Right, There’s No Option To Say It’s Wrong | TechdirtJul 22 13:20
techrights-news"Hackers tend to enjoy binary watches" ☛ | Source: HackadayJul 22 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Simple Binary Watch Uses A PCB Body | HackadayJul 22 13:22
XRevan86bagira: "oddly enough, "they" screws up the english language in scenario descriptions involving multiple people like nothing else" <- Thou artn't wrong, but there's a nuance.Jul 22 13:24
techrights-news"if you decided to design an entire city in Blender" ☛ | Source: HackadayJul 22 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Design Cities In A Snap With Buildify | HackadayJul 22 13:24
techrights-newsReverse Engineering ☛ | Source: HackadayJul 22 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reverse Engineering A Phased Array System Reveals Surprising Details | HackadayJul 22 13:24
techrights-newsMichael Larabel again failing to note this is part of Microsoft's ATTACK on Linux. Phoronix is hopeless. 22 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Extends Mesa's D3D12 Video Acceleration To Support Video Engine Based Effects - PhoronixJul 22 13:26
XRevan86psydruid: "You can deal with Security Theater Boot by turning it off in the firmware setup and then never worrying about it fucking up your system again." "Until OpenSUSE reenables it behind your back" <- Is that a real thing that can possibly happen?Jul 22 13:27
psydruidIt happened to meJul 22 13:27
psydruidAnd then I wiped itJul 22 13:28
techrights-newsFwupd 1.8.3 22 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | LVFS: HomeJul 22 13:29
XRevan86psydruid: Can ye explain the mechanism?Jul 22 13:29
techrights-news"This is a weekly report from the CPE (Community Platform Engineering) Team. " 22 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | CPE Weekly Update – Week 29 2022 – Fedora Community BlogJul 22 13:30
psydruidI had Secure Boot disabled and somewhere in the installation procedure or during an update it re-enabled Secure BootJul 22 13:31
techrights-newsGNU/Linux skills: 9 tutorials to get more from your text editor 22 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux skills: 9 tutorials to get more from your text editor | Enable SysadminJul 22 13:31
psydruidyou might want to ask SUSE developers for more information than I can provideJul 22 13:32
techrights-newsSo-called "research [sic] by Cisco finds that 98 percent of all meetings post-COVID are expected to include at least one remote participant." Cisco trying to sell its crappy, proprietary, overpriced stuff. 22 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Hybrid work: 5 tips to help build connections | The Enterprisers ProjectJul 22 13:33
techrights-news"Keep a watchful eye on culture and morale." Says Red Hat while lots of its staff is fleeing. 22 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 4 tips for leading remote IT teams | The Enterprisers ProjectJul 22 13:34
techrights-newsRed Hat: will the last person to quit ICBM please take the hat off?Jul 22 13:35
techrights-newsReview of marketing fluff? 22 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Red Hat OpenShift Review | Enterprise Storage ForumJul 22 13:36
techrights-newsAre Big Mistakes That Big Of A Deal? 22 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Compiler: Are Big Mistakes That Big Of A Deal?Jul 22 13:36
techrights-newsCars use simpler systems without Microsoft systemd 22 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat's new CEO Matt Hicks confident in future growth - Axios RaleighJul 22 13:37
XRevan86psydruid: Surprisingly detailed.Jul 22 13:40
techrights-news[PATCH v2 0/5] Add Toshiba Visconti DNN image processing accelerator driver ⚓ ䷉ Source: toshiba | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | openSUSE:UEFI - openSUSE WikiJul 22 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [PATCH v2 0/5] Add Toshiba Visconti DNN image processing accelerator driverJul 22 13:40
schestowitz[TR2]XRevan86: booting should not vbe detailedJul 22 13:40
schestowitz[TR2]or complexJul 22 13:40
schestowitz[TR2]just booting the f**erJul 22 13:40
XRevan86psydruid: An installer should not even be able to enable anything.Jul 22 13:40
XRevan86schestowitz: Secure Boot support is inherently complex, and optional.Jul 22 13:41
techrights-newsAMD ROCm 5.2.1 22 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | AMD Documentation - PortalJul 22 13:41
psydruidXRevan86, that's why I was flabbergastedJul 22 13:41
XRevan86My only hypothesis is that when the installer was checking if Secure Boot is there, the firmware that psydruid has saw that and decided "they want Secure Boot, let's enable it".Jul 22 13:41
techrights-newsOpenwashing marketing SPAM 22 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bosch leverages open source model; teams with PolyCrypt to tackle blockchain for the Economy of Things - Linux FoundationJul 22 13:42
XRevan86> To determine whether a machine has secure boot enabled in the firmware enter the following command as root in a Linux shell:Jul 22 13:42
XRevan86> od -An -t u1 /sys/firmware/efi/vars/SecureBoot-8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c/dataJul 22 13:42
XRevan86psydruid: Will magical things happen if ye try this command?Jul 22 13:43
psydruidXRevan86, I don't know, I don't have that machine turned on right nowJul 22 13:44
psydruidI could try itJul 22 13:45
psydruidat least on this one there is no /sys/firmware/efi/vars directoryJul 22 13:45
psydruidbut there is /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/Jul 22 13:46
XRevan86Maybe the interface changed.Jul 22 13:47
psydruid6   0   0   0   0Jul 22 13:47
XRevan86I don't have UEFI, so I can't check.Jul 22 13:47
psydruidis what I got hereJul 22 13:47
psydruidI don't know what that meansJul 22 13:47
XRevan86psydruid: That differs from expected 1 or 0.Jul 22 13:48
XRevan86psydruid: By the way, what's the BIOS of the affected system?Jul 22 13:48
psydruidI'll try on the other laptop, an HP Zbook Studio G3, in a momentJul 22 13:49
psydruidXRevan86, let me boot it up and I can tell you, it's their UEFIJul 22 13:50
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psydruidit's the same on that laptopJul 22 13:54
psydruidbut there is no data file or anythingJul 22 13:54
psydruidit's justJul 22 13:54
psydruidod -An -t u1 /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/SecureBoot-8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8cJul 22 13:55
psydruidthe contents of thatJul 22 13:55
techrights-newsRed Hat / IBM Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Red Hat/ IBM Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 22 13:56
techrights-newsBuzzwords and Openwashing From Linux Foundation: It’s Not About Linux, Not Even Open Source, Just Corporate Ads Made With Proprietary Software | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Buzzwords and Openwashing From Linux Foundation: It’s Not About Linux, Not Even Open Source, Just Corporate Ads Made With Proprietary Software | TechrightsJul 22 14:02
techrights-newsLinks 22/07/2022: The Document Foundation (TDF) Hiring, Lots of General News | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 22/07/2022: The Document Foundation (TDF) Hiring, Lots of General News | TechrightsJul 22 14:08
techrights-newsSpellBinding: GHIYSUL Wordo: VANES gemini:// 22 14:18
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spazzhey. is there a way to make the nickserv's cert feature work?Jul 22 14:27
spazzcouldn't figure out how to do itJul 22 14:27
spazzi think the 'strict' enforce mode is interferingJul 22 14:27
spazzwhich a user cannot change/disable Jul 22 14:27
techrights-newsProprietary software is considered perfectly normal at the Linux Foundation; any references to “Open Source” tend to be casual, inaccurate, and Microsoft-centric; the official reports are made with proprietary software too 22 14:34
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MinceR22 111850 < schestowitz[TR2]> never had to work to generate energyJul 22 15:13
MinceRnever had to workJul 22 15:13
MinceRlike any successful sociopathJul 22 15:13
MinceR22 105236 < matey> dont put a button on the door of the cd drive!Jul 22 15:14
MinceRdon't put adequate cooling in your alleged computerJul 22 15:14
MinceRdon't put an extension port on your other alleged computerJul 22 15:14
MinceRdo focus group testing with retards and end up with a single-button mouseJul 22 15:15
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XRevan86psydruid: Well, the BIOS is AMI, so at least we know that.Jul 22 15:20
psydruidXRevan86, so that's what that number 6 meansJul 22 15:21
psydruidand well, I only have these laptops because mine from 2002 died in 2012Jul 22 15:22
psydruidand I needed something more modern in 2016, so that was the second laptop I've ever boughtJul 22 15:22
MinceR   ( )Jul 22 15:23
XRevan86 "Three bodies extracted from under the rubble of a destroyed Kramatorsk school"Jul 22 15:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Новая газета. ЕвропаJul 22 15:23
XRevan86 "‘DPR’ authorities to block Google due to it ‘promoting violence’" (so did "LPR" prior)Jul 22 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Новая газета. ЕвропаJul 22 15:23
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 22 15:30
psydruidDailyAMDFix is doing a great job selling AMD PSP and Pluton to the massesJul 22 15:48
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techrights-newsEPO’s Georg Weber Increasing Grant Rates Close to 100% in Software Patents (for Supposed ’Success’) | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO’s Georg Weber Increasing Grant Rates Close to 100% in Software Patents (for Supposed ‘Success’) | TechrightsJul 22 16:10
techrights-newsThe António Campinos Photo Ops Tour: Pretending to Support Ukraine While Sending the EPO’s Jobs and Applicants’ Money to Belarus | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The António Campinos Photo Ops Tour: Pretending to Support Ukraine While Sending the EPO’s Jobs and Applicants’ Money to Belarus | TechrightsJul 22 16:23
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techrights-news[Meme] The Intrepid Razik, Herr Weber, and the Faustian EPO Pact | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] The Intrepid Razik, Herr Weber, and the Faustian EPO Pact | TechrightsJul 22 17:00
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techrights-news[Teaser] The Food Expert Who Got an ’Appetite’ for Software Patents | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Teaser] The Food Expert Who Got an ‘Appetite’ for Software Patents | TechrightsJul 22 17:24
schestowitz[TR2]matey: your friends ^Jul 22 17:24
mateyum..?Jul 22 17:24
schestowitz[TR2]videoJul 22 17:24
techuserme and schestowitz[TR2]?Jul 22 17:24
techuserI don't think IRC "friendship" is a real friendshipJul 22 17:25
techuserwe know each other, we talk sometimes, that's allJul 22 17:25
mateyyoure right, it would have to go beyond just that Jul 22 17:25
bagirayou're a millenial you don't even know what a friend isJul 22 17:26
mateywhich is possible over irc, but isnt a thing by defaultJul 22 17:26
matey/me has dated people from chat (in person-- not this one obviously) and its safe to say we were friends firstJul 22 17:27
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techusersomeone who can help when one is in trouble, I guessJul 22 17:28
techusercan and wants toJul 22 17:28
matey/me doesnt think its the internet that fucked up the concept of friend, but the takeover of the internet by people like fuckerbergJul 22 17:29
mateylets make friendship more corporate and see what happensJul 22 17:29
mateyyoure banned from your friends! sorryJul 22 17:30
MinceRbagira: ok boomerJul 22 17:30
mateyhes not a boomer yet, hes transitioningJul 22 17:30
mateybut sometimes he presents as a boomer, maybe its his preferred ageJul 22 17:31
bagiraim a xennial Jul 22 17:32
mateyhis preferred pronoun is grandpaJul 22 17:32
MinceRlolJul 22 17:32
bagirawe're the generation that will take over when the mellenials drop the ball but will be too drunk from watching the insane shitshow to fix anything while we usher the modern world into a distopyian hellscape we warned everyone about our entire livesJul 22 17:33
MinceR 22 17:33
mateyahh, fatalismJul 22 17:33
mateydont get me wrong, the risk is thereJul 22 17:34
MinceR 22 17:34
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bagiraoh come on, you guys had the reins for 10 minutes before the doomsday clock shifted to 100 seconds from midnight and plunged the entire world back into the cold warJul 22 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Fatalist - InvidiousJul 22 17:34
MinceRwho had the reins?Jul 22 17:34
mateyold insanely rich peopleJul 22 17:35
MinceRwhen has an entire generation had the reins?Jul 22 17:35
bagiranope millenials are voting ageJul 22 17:35
MinceRso what?Jul 22 17:35
mateyyeah and what age are the people who can win an election?Jul 22 17:35
MinceRwhat do you think your votes do?Jul 22 17:35
bagiravote for people who are not insane and pressure candidate selection systems to not select insane peopleJul 22 17:36
MinceRi thought bagira was kidding, but it really starts to look like he was seriousJul 22 17:36
mateymincer: they make a nice whooshing noise when they go byJul 22 17:36
MinceRpeople who are not insane do not run in electionsJul 22 17:36
MinceRand even if they did, they wouldn't lie enough to win any electionsJul 22 17:36
bagira"my dad voted for bill clinton, and so will I"Jul 22 17:36
mateytrump thought the election was rigged. thats a bit of an underestatementJul 22 17:37
mateyevery aspect of government is rigged. the election is a joke no matter who gets inJul 22 17:37
bagirai mean let's be real, the millennial generation has not meaningfully contributed to political thoughtJul 22 17:37
bagirathey all look at us for thatJul 22 17:37
mateyi mean let's be real, the millennial generation has not meaningfully contributed to political thought <- i dont agree with thisJul 22 17:37
MinceReven if they did, they wouldn't lie enough about their own decisions and its effects to ever be elected againJul 22 17:38
schestowitz[TR2]yoiung people had the MOST in stakeJul 22 17:38
schestowitz[TR2]even if they are not wealthy (yet)Jul 22 17:38
MinceRour society is set up for sociopaths, and sociopaths have the reins alwaysJul 22 17:38
MinceRno wonder everything went to shit and it's just getting shittier and shittierJul 22 17:38
matey^ pretty muchJul 22 17:38
schestowitz[TR2]the people in control are aalways alost deadJul 22 17:39
bagiraeh, i think history will remember it as a failed generationJul 22 17:39
schestowitz[TR2]Trump, 70sJul 22 17:39
MinceRthe only relief will be when our benighted, barbaric, evil, idiotic species finally manages to kill itself offJul 22 17:39
schestowitz[TR2]Biden.. 80s soon?Jul 22 17:39
matey<bagira> eh, i think history will remember it as a failed generation <- if theres history to remember it, i think it will of necessity be a pivotal generationJul 22 17:39
bagirathere are no millennial giantsJul 22 17:40
mateymaybe thats a featureJul 22 17:40
MinceRi don't see the pivot in our death marchJul 22 17:40
mateyyou wouldntJul 22 17:40
bagirabut ya knowJul 22 17:40
bagiramaybe it's a cycleJul 22 17:40
bagiramaybe the war they're headed for is what they needJul 22 17:41
matey/me likes mincer intellectually, but sometimes he sounds like a marilyn manson albumJul 22 17:41
mateywar is better than some alternativesJul 22 17:41
mateyits nothing to hope for, except as an alternative to some thingsJul 22 17:41
bagirayeah i meanJul 22 17:41
MinceRindeed war is not the worst optionJul 22 17:41
mateywhen all other options are outJul 22 17:41
bagiraonly an idiot would desire warJul 22 17:41
bagirabutJul 22 17:41
techuseroh, someone sent me "Marilyn Manson & The Spooky Kids"Jul 22 17:41
MinceRonly an idiot prefers eternal slavery to warJul 22 17:41
MinceRbut there are billions of idiotsJul 22 17:42
techuseranything special about it? didn't listen to it yetJul 22 17:42
bagirathat doesn't mean it doesn't have an impact on many aspects of human society, not all of which are negativeJul 22 17:42
mateywar is better than eternal slaveryJul 22 17:42
bagirawar i meanJul 22 17:42
MinceRand we can't even convince them to move to one of their beloved shitholesJul 22 17:42
mateytechuser: ehJul 22 17:42
MinceRinstead they try to replicate them wherever they areJul 22 17:42
MinceRand so we have hungary and polandJul 22 17:43
bagiralol yes "but technically 'true communism' has never been attempted" while ignoring the mass gravesJul 22 17:43
techrights-newsJul 22 17:43
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 22 17:43
MinceR 22 17:44
bagirahobbes said it best:  humans are solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and shortJul 22 17:44
bagirathe life of humans anywayJul 22 17:44
matey<MinceR> but there are billions of idiots </carl sagan voice>Jul 22 17:45
mateybillions and billionsJul 22 17:45
bagiralolJul 22 17:45
bagirahave you seen idiocracyJul 22 17:45
MinceR:>Jul 22 17:45
mateymaybe half of itJul 22 17:45
mateyi think its a true story, just not the whole storyJul 22 17:46
mateyi think you underestimate the current generationJul 22 17:48
bagirathey have strengthJul 22 17:48
mateytheyre definitely smarter than they lookJul 22 17:48
bagiraof emotionsJul 22 17:48
mateythink about leeloo for exampleJul 22 17:49
mateyi meanJul 22 17:49
mateyif we didnt know better, we would think leeloo was a bit special...Jul 22 17:49
mateythats this generationJul 22 17:49
bagirawhaJul 22 17:50
bagirawhat are you talking aboutJul 22 17:50
bagirawho is leelooJul 22 17:50
mateyyou cant tell me you havent seen fifth elementJul 22 17:50
bagiradude that movie came out in the 80sJul 22 17:50
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matey90sJul 22 17:50
bagirathats not a millenialJul 22 17:50
mateythats not what i meanJul 22 17:50
mateyi mean if we met leeloo, and didnt really know herJul 22 17:50
mateyshe would seem a bit... stupidJul 22 17:51
mateyshe acts like a child most of the movieJul 22 17:51
mateyi think shes awesome, but its because we know betterJul 22 17:51
mateyif you judged her at face value though, youd have to see her in actionJul 22 17:52
mateyif you were working at the ticket gate on the other hand, youd probably think she at paint chipsJul 22 17:52
bagiraok this is where you draw jungian counters citing the mask worn by arnold for the inspections line in the original total recall  Jul 22 17:53
mateyi saw it, but i paid very little attentionJul 22 17:53
mateyi probably should have waited a couple more years, total recall was just wtf for meJul 22 17:53
*bagira hands matey a cigar and tells him it's just a cigarJul 22 17:54
mateythats what she saidJul 22 17:54
mateybut was there a point to the movie? im assuming yes, based on what youre sayingJul 22 17:54
bagiranot really man, its entertainment not real lifeJul 22 17:54
mateylol alrightJul 22 17:55
bagirafrom a different generation than the one we were talking aboutJul 22 17:55
mateyi dont think its fair to dump the shit of every generation before it on the most recent one and say "here, this is your fault"Jul 22 17:56
mateyits like blaming the camel for the last strawJul 22 17:56
mateybut this is more about accuracy than it is about fairness. we dont have to be fair, but we want to be accurateJul 22 17:57
mateya lot of stupidity has come out of this generation, but it was put into them by people like zuckerberg (and dorsey. and a bunch of others)Jul 22 17:58
mateyif people stop raising their kids, and the kids grow up in a mental wastelandJul 22 17:58
mateyany progress they make from that is sort of a miracleJul 22 17:58
mateywhichever generation is the pivotal one will have to be more immune to bullshit than the previous oneJul 22 17:59
mateythats really a tall fucking orderJul 22 17:59
mateyand if it isnt the generation we give up on humanity forJul 22 17:59
mateythen they will most likely spawn itJul 22 17:59
mateyeither way, credit where credit is dueJul 22 18:00
mateyand if it isnt the generation we give up on humanity for <- that is actually the pivotal one, then it will be their kids most likelyJul 22 18:01
bagirathey're not having kidsJul 22 18:02
mateyof course theyre having kidsJul 22 18:02
mateyyou think birth has stoppedJul 22 18:02
mateyif theyre having fewer kids, thats a featureJul 22 18:02
mateyif theyre too young to have kids, that wont last longJul 22 18:02
MinceRno, this generation is just as retarded as every generation before it and every generation after itJul 22 18:04
MinceRthey're humanJul 22 18:04
mateythere seems to be a point in each generationJul 22 18:04
MinceRand that's the problem with themJul 22 18:04
mateywhere they get old enough to give up, then give upJul 22 18:04
mateythen they start projecting that onto younger peopleJul 22 18:04
MinceRthe point is the continued march to a protracted and painful deathJul 22 18:04
mateymincer hasnt given up Jul 22 18:05
MinceRwhat humans say about humanity vs reality is like what you see on the screen while installing a MICROS~1 product and what it's actually like using itJul 22 18:05
MinceRpropaganda: "we're intelligent and civilized! we can overcome any challenge!" reality: we're stupid and barbaric and we exterminate ourselvesJul 22 18:06
MinceR...slowly.Jul 22 18:06
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MinceR 22 18:10
mateypropaganda: "we're intelligent and civilized! we can overcome any challenge!" <- thats what youre blaming them for not being able to do Jul 22 18:10
MinceRthat's what they claim they areJul 22 18:10
MinceRthere are all these tales about human "civilization"Jul 22 18:11
mateydefinitely not fairJul 22 18:11
mateyintellectuallyJul 22 18:11
MinceRthere's all the posturing about how humans are better than all the other lifeformsJul 22 18:11
MinceRand then there's realityJul 22 18:11
mateyaccording to mincerJul 22 18:11
mateybut you only judge the odds by the people who are failingJul 22 18:12
mateywhich makes it circularJul 22 18:12
mateyyou may still be right, but the argument isnt greatJul 22 18:12
bagirahumans are better than all the other lifeformsJul 22 18:12
bagiraobjectivelyJul 22 18:12
bagirain every wayJul 22 18:12
bagiraand its entirely possible that we're the most advanced life in the universeJul 22 18:13
mateywe can bang the rocks together real goodJul 22 18:13
mateywe can even bang the atomic particles of the rocks togetherJul 22 18:14
mateyoh, flint, thats cute. watch this...Jul 22 18:14
MinceR22 191210 < matey> but you only judge the odds by the people who are failingJul 22 18:15
MinceRno, i judge the odds by what the masses do and what the masses allow the exceptional people doJul 22 18:15
MinceRbagira: keep telling yourself thatJul 22 18:15
matey<MinceR> no, i judge the odds by what the masses do and what the masses allow the exceptional people do <- youre waiting for jesus thenJul 22 18:15
MinceRnoJul 22 18:16
mateyeinstein didnt think he was exceptional. he thought his work might inspire "a few astrophysicists"Jul 22 18:16
mateyyou areJul 22 18:16
MinceRjesus is worthlessJul 22 18:16
MinceRjesus' message in that overrated tale is stupidJul 22 18:16
mateyyes, but thats only half the pointJul 22 18:16
MinceReinstein was exceptionalJul 22 18:16
mateyi think so tooJul 22 18:17
mateybut the way history is told, its still told in the form of epicsJul 22 18:17
mateythe story of einstein is an epicJul 22 18:17
mateywe write history to give credit for civilisation to big heroesJul 22 18:17
mateythis isnt jealously talking, again, einstein himself did not think of himself as a giantJul 22 18:18
MinceRhistory will be told in the form of a sphere expanding at light speed from a planet filled with ruinsJul 22 18:18
bagiraMinceR: hopefully by then we'll be making time bombs so we can shatter the timeline in the processJul 22 18:18
MinceR:>Jul 22 18:18
mateythe way history is written, it skews things a bitJul 22 18:19
bagiralol have you guys seen that cartoon called "stein's gate"?Jul 22 18:19
bagirathat shit was epicJul 22 18:19
mateyit says big people create the world, and little people are shitJul 22 18:19
mateyit says martin luther king was the civil rights movement, because hes safer than malcolm x (i like mlk a lot, more than gandhi)Jul 22 18:20
mateyheres where it falls apart thoughJul 22 18:20
mateyeinstein wasnt doing something someone else could have done-- granted many didntJul 22 18:21
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mateybut if he had never been born, someone else would have discovered what he didJul 22 18:21
mateyits awesome that he did, to be sure. thats why hes a household nameJul 22 18:21
mateyhe inspired a lot of peopleJul 22 18:21
mateybut if you believe history the way its toldJul 22 18:21
mateythe point of people like einstein inspiring other peopleJul 22 18:21
mateyis so most of them can really be mediocre and uselessJul 22 18:22
mateyhistory is a bit like american idolJul 22 18:22
mateyits rigged and 4 yesses wont necessarily get you to the next round, no matter what they sayJul 22 18:22
mateyit overstresses mediocity as much as it overstresses greatnessJul 22 18:23
mateythe civil rights movement was led by martin luther king, in a wayJul 22 18:23
mateybut in another way, it was all the people who simply did their partJul 22 18:23
mateyand history pushes our view away from that sort of obvious thingJul 22 18:23
mateythe result is that people are uninspiredJul 22 18:23
mateythey dont bother-- they know theyre not mlk, not einsteinJul 22 18:23
mateyso why not just stfu and die? whats the point Jul 22 18:24
mateyand most people simply carry onJul 22 18:24
mateybut what if inspiring people ACTUALLY INSPIRED PEOPLE insteadJul 22 18:24
mateyinstead of simply being examples of what they could never beJul 22 18:24
mateyi dont knowJul 22 18:24
mateybecause history is still told in the form of epicsJul 22 18:24
mateyyoure a personJul 22 18:24
mateyTHIS is a GREAT PERSONJul 22 18:24
mateylots of luck, dipshitJul 22 18:24
mateyeinstein was great, but history is dichotomyJul 22 18:25
mateyyoure either GREAT, or... whatever.Jul 22 18:25
mateyand its simply not like that. thats not reality. its distorted.Jul 22 18:25
mateyjesus isnt coming backJul 22 18:25
mateypeople can accept mediocrity, or they can be as great as they can beJul 22 18:26
mateyright now though, most people think youre either great, or meh.Jul 22 18:26
mateynarcissism is overcompensation for a lack of self-worthJul 22 18:26
mateysociety is narcissistic as fuckJul 22 18:26
mateyits fixable-- if we rebuild society to be less like that, people would improveJul 22 18:27
mateywe would still have einsteins, but now we would have more brilliant physicistsJul 22 18:28
mateyincluding the ones who never bothered because "im not einstein"Jul 22 18:28
prurigromatey: I was recently listening to a talk by a physicist who, while deflecting praise for his ideas, pointed out a number of people in Einstein's life that directly inspired him, like this one mathematician who taught him the math for calculating curvature that turned into a foundational piece of the theory of relativityJul 22 18:28
mateysure youre not Jul 22 18:29
mateybut who said you have to beJul 22 18:29
mateythats where we fucked upJul 22 18:29
mateysociety is broken-- we need jesus and einstein and mlkJul 22 18:29
mateythats mythologyJul 22 18:29
mateyso yeah, youre waiting for jesusJul 22 18:29
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mateyeven though you know how silly that isJul 22 18:30
mateymaybe it wont be einstein or mlk who fixes itJul 22 18:30
mateymaybe thats a fallacy created by the way we tell historyJul 22 18:30
mateytheres a pervasive example of this pushed by academia tooJul 22 18:31
mateydisputed by dr andy farnellJul 22 18:31
mateyi mean, the wright brothers were not qualified to invent planesJul 22 18:31
prurigropeople like their heroes, and skip the hard work and how they were in the right place and the right time and surrounded by the right peopleJul 22 18:31
mateythey were qualified to make fucking bicyclesJul 22 18:31
matey and skip the hard work and how they were in the right place and the right time and surrounded by the right people <- yepJul 22 18:32
mateyand history encourages thisJul 22 18:32
bagiraall the cool shit happens in central ohioJul 22 18:32
mateyim not saying we should stop writing cool historyJul 22 18:32
mateybut we should also learn that theres a certain amount of hidden bullshit lurking in itJul 22 18:33
mateywhich made its way there through false assumptions and wishful thinking, and other fallaciesJul 22 18:33
mateywe should stop treating epics as manuals for fixing society, unless we intend to wait for jesus and einstein or carry on without themJul 22 18:34
mateyobviously this applies to stallmanJul 22 18:34
mateynot because he isnt great-- i personally compare him to einsteinJul 22 18:34
mateybut because hes done.Jul 22 18:35
mateyand not coming backJul 22 18:35
mateyand waiting for him to fix free software is why it isnt getting fixed yetJul 22 18:35
mateynor will it be fixed by the traitorsJul 22 18:35
mateybecause theyre fakeJul 22 18:35
mateyso if it wont be fixed by stallman, and it wont be fixed by traitors, and it wont be fixed with corporationsJul 22 18:35
mateywe know the only people who can fix it: everyone elseJul 22 18:36
mateysociety has the same problemJul 22 18:36
mateyand its too busy waiting for jesus and einstein and mlkJul 22 18:36
prurigrospeaking of people everyone idolizes (and to your point) - "Be the change you want to see"Jul 22 18:36
mateyall of whom were greatJul 22 18:36
matey"Be the change you want to see" <- this is exactly what i meanJul 22 18:37
mateybut gandhi was a shitJul 22 18:37
mateyboth he and mlk were inspired by thoreau, but they shouldnt have beenJul 22 18:37
prurigrohe was, but that quote isn'tJul 22 18:37
mateythoreau wasnt a great man. he inspired great men.Jul 22 18:37
mateythats not how its supposed to work.Jul 22 18:37
mateyyoure supposed to be inspired by great people!Jul 22 18:37
mateynot some guy living in the woodsJul 22 18:37
mateyi mean he was basically the precursor to the unabomber ffsJul 22 18:38
matey(i love thoreau, im just making a point)Jul 22 18:38
mateymlk was coolJul 22 18:38
mateyi like malcolm x tooJul 22 18:38
mateythey asked malcolm x if a white person could join what he was doingJul 22 18:39
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mateyhe said "if john brown was still alive, we might accept him"Jul 22 18:39
mateyyou cant rely on reform to fix anything in the long runJul 22 18:40
mateybut all real change starts at the marginsJul 22 18:40
mateymost of the abolitionists wanted to reform until slavery was no moreJul 22 18:42
mateyit would have taken centuriesJul 22 18:42
mateybut they were calling for what they thought was possibleJul 22 18:43
mateyopen source wants to fix the software industry through similar reformsJul 22 18:44
mateyesr was cynicalJul 22 18:45
mateyfrom the beginningJul 22 18:45
britneyesr is a badassJul 22 18:45
mateyit looked ambitious, but really open source is cloying and sycophanticJul 22 18:45
mateyesr is a badass <- he created a weapon for microsoft, while trying to destroy themJul 22 18:47
mateythen he never admitted itJul 22 18:47
mateyhes an idiotJul 22 18:47
mateyif id created open sourceJul 22 18:47
mateyi would have denounced itJul 22 18:47
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bagirawow i just got a notice in the mail that verizon as my cellular provider did a credit check on my (soft pull) like 2 years into my accountJul 22 18:51
bagiranever authorized that shit and its apparently routine for themJul 22 18:52
mateywhy would they do thatJul 22 18:53
bagiraapparently they use it to determine spending limit for purchases which can be billed to my accountJul 22 18:53
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mateyverizon and comcast shouldnt fucking existJul 22 18:54
bagiraisnt that illegal?Jul 22 18:54
mateywhy would it be illegalJul 22 18:54
mateyafaik anyone can run a credit checkJul 22 18:54
mateywhich is unfortunate because too many credit checks (which you have no control over) can fuck with your credit, among other thingsJul 22 18:55
mateyor maybe im thinking of background checksJul 22 18:55
mateyeither way afaik anyone can do a credit check on youJul 22 18:56
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psydruidso my university crawled deeper into bill gates' black hole requiring multi-factor authentication using an "app" I need to have installed on my backdoored "phone"Jul 22 19:10
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schestowitz[TR2]why is 2fa gates?Jul 22 19:10
schestowitz[TR2]I think many naferious entities promote this crap tbhJul 22 19:10
schestowitz[TR2]*nefaJul 22 19:11
psydruidno, the problem is using lookout onlineJul 22 19:11
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schestowitz[TR2]don't use itJul 22 19:11
psydruidand they recommend using or switching to lookoutJul 22 19:11
schestowitz[TR2]use your own emailJul 22 19:11
DaemonFCmateyafaik anyone can run a credit checkJul 22 19:11
schestowitz[TR2]and tell them to stuff your MICROSOFT accountsJul 22 19:11
DaemonFCYou can freeze your credit report and lock them out.Jul 22 19:11
schestowitz[TR2]unis in NL should not Iimpose US-controlled amil ons tudentsJul 22 19:11
psydruidwell, there are no directions for making this work on thunderbirdJul 22 19:11
psydruidI guess I'll just use webmail from now onJul 22 19:12
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DaemonFCI froze Mandy's to lock out MARISOL and put fraud alerts o them.Jul 22 19:12
schestowitz[TR2]2fa was obstructing me two weeks agoJul 22 19:12
DaemonFCEven if she did manage to remove one, she'd still have to get past the other.Jul 22 19:12
schestowitz[TR2]so I got our CEO to scan some code for me and send me a text to enterJul 22 19:12
schestowitz[TR2]psydruid: there's usually a way around itJul 22 19:13
schestowitz[TR2]for nowJul 22 19:13
schestowitz[TR2]stillJul 22 19:13
psydruidI'm waiting for Redmond to approve Thunderbird nowJul 22 19:13
psydruidthanks but no thanksJul 22 19:13
psydruidfuckersJul 22 19:13
DaemonFCThe problem is actually the smaller credit bureaus nobody knows about.Jul 22 19:13
DaemonFCYou have to freeze those too to stop people from applying for fraudulent insurance policies.Jul 22 19:13
schestowitz[TR2]you should make gdpr complaintJul 22 19:14
DaemonFCMARISOL thinks that everyone around her is just some pawn to be used to raise money to go shopping with.Jul 22 19:14
DaemonFCShe's always up to some scheme, like opening fake bitcoin exchange accounts in their names and credit cards.Jul 22 19:15
techrights-newsNow Initializing Gemlog gemini:// 22 19:15
DaemonFCShe's using some bitcoin exchange in Panama called bitfoliex.Jul 22 19:16
DaemonFCschestowitz I spoke with one of the maintainers of SeaMonkey.Jul 22 19:18
schestowitz[TR2]foiledJul 22 19:18
schestowitz[TR2]she got foiledJul 22 19:18
schestowitz[TR2]tinfoilJul 22 19:18
schestowitz[TR2]failing a scamJul 22 19:18
DaemonFCIt turns out it has most of the Web platform features of Gecko 78, but it's also based on 60.8.Jul 22 19:18
schestowitz[TR2]tinflolexJul 22 19:18
schestowitz[TR2]EXchange for tintoil teenJul 22 19:18
DaemonFCThey've been backporting major features to 60.8 because it has APIs they don't want to lose.Jul 22 19:18
schestowitz[TR2]nevigator nerdsJul 22 19:19
schestowitz[TR2]*navigaotrJul 22 19:19
schestowitz[TR2]when is your seamonkey review out?Jul 22 19:19
DaemonFCSoon-ish, I hope.Jul 22 19:20
DaemonFCI feel like a grenade went off in my head right now.Jul 22 19:20
DaemonFCI wouldn't wish this medicine on anyone, honestly. Not even GULAG.Jul 22 19:20
schestowitz[TR2]the article?Jul 22 19:21
schestowitz[TR2]maybe make it multi-part if it's very longJul 22 19:21
DaemonFCYeah, that might work.Jul 22 19:22
DaemonFCIt ended up being more about the state of the Web getting away from us than SeaMonkey.Jul 22 19:22
DaemonFCAnd why SeaMonkey is having a hard time dealing with it.Jul 22 19:22
DaemonFC(Mozilla doesn't care about Gecko as a development platform.)Jul 22 19:23
DaemonFCSeaMonkey is like the last project out there that is determined to make it work despite itself.Jul 22 19:23
DaemonFCMozilla's position is obviously very wrongheaded. They attacked and drove off other people wanting to use Gecko and make it popular and make their version of the Web platform grow and leave developers with little choice but to support it, and now Firefox is small, cut off, all alone, and shrinking.Jul 22 19:24
DaemonFCThere used to be many browsers using Gecko as the engine, and Mozilla didn't see that there was value in this. Microsoft certainly did with IE. They didn't care if you used IE or something like Maxthon, which opened up Trident and gave you more features.Jul 22 19:25
DaemonFCI remember all of these "other browsers" being dumped on freeware sites with features that Microsoft wasn't interested in putting in IE, but they didn't work without Trident, and if you browsed around with Trident, it made Microsoft stronger.Jul 22 19:26
DaemonFCThat's Google's strategy with Chromium "open source project". Jul 22 19:27
DaemonFCThey certainly want you to use Chrome, but when you use Vivaldi, Opera, or Edge, you are boosting Google's stranglehold on the Web and making any holdouts irrelevant. The endgame is to wipe out Safari and Firefox and take over.Jul 22 19:28
bagiraopera is not owned by googleJul 22 19:28
DaemonFCDoesn't matter. The Web Engine is the same. And all of these "other browsers" bend down, kiss the ring, and sign licensing agreements to get Widevine.Jul 22 19:31
DaemonFCWhich SeaMonkey does NOT support or bother the user with.Jul 22 19:31
DaemonFCI've discovered that the best way to get news on SeaMonkey is to just use a Gemini Proxy for NewsWaffle and bookmark the Proxy to NewsWaffle.Jul 22 19:32
DaemonFCSo basically it's a WebNewsWaffle at that point.Jul 22 19:32
DaemonFCIt would be interesting if someone would create a Web version of the NewsWaffle that would work directly, or could run in the browser and convert news sites on your local machine by stripping them down and THEN feeding them into the browser engine as text and links.Jul 22 19:33
DaemonFCThat would be REALLY useful.Jul 22 19:33
DaemonFCThese news sites are gargantuan and the news is actually just a few KB of text as cheese in a mousetrap. They use it as bait to get you in there so you'll spring the trap and they can hit you with paywalls, ads, tracking scripts, things that your poor browser or poor computer can't process and dies from.Jul 22 19:34
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DaemonFCschestowitz I'm going to see if I can load a local proxy to turn SeaMonkey into a Gemini browser.Jul 22 19:40
DaemonFCThat way I don't need to keep switching between the Web and Gemini.Jul 22 19:41
schestowitz[TR2]we have a proxyJul 22 19:41
schestowitz[TR2]we made it with perlJul 22 19:41
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schestowitz[TR2]but we restricted it to work only in our domainJul 22 19:41
schestowitz[TR2]opera is owned by chinaJul 22 19:42
schestowitz[TR2]and the belly of opera is gulagJul 22 19:42
schestowitz[TR2]the engine of the rendering and allJul 22 19:43
schestowitz[TR2]which is the core stuffJul 22 19:43
DaemonFCI think that most of Opera is owned by red China now.Jul 22 19:43
schestowitz[TR2]opera is just front end gui nowJul 22 19:43
DaemonFCAnd it's also supportive of GULAG.Jul 22 19:43
DaemonFCYes!Jul 22 19:43
schestowitz[TR2]same for HEDGE FUND, EDGEJul 22 19:43
DaemonFCIt's a very bad idea to move from Opera 12 to Chromium Opera.Jul 22 19:43
schestowitz[TR2]malicious repackasingJul 22 19:43
schestowitz[TR2]and password stealerJul 22 19:44
schestowitz[TR2]but windows tore or microsoft store won't ben itJul 22 19:44
schestowitz[TR2]for being a copyncat that steals passwordsJul 22 19:44
DaemonFCIf you still desire an "Internet Suite", best to move everything over to SeaMonkey.Jul 22 19:44
DaemonFCIt still gets security updates and can render more modern sites.Jul 22 19:44
DaemonFCSo Opera 12 is definitely falling apart worse by now. It must be. They abandoned it and SeaMonkey is still actively developed.Jul 22 19:45
DaemonFCThat means that SeaMonkey is the better choice by default.Jul 22 19:45
DaemonFCI liked "old Opera". Most of the employees resigned and went to work at Vivaldi, but Vivaldi is also proprietary. The parts that differentiate it from Chrome are proprietary and obfuscated (they're visible because they're written in JavaScript, CSS, and such, but they've "compressed" them by removing all of the commenting, and then they did a simple "XOR" style obfuscation on them so you...Jul 22 19:47
DaemonFC...can't easily read what it is they're doing.Jul 22 19:47
DaemonFCAnd it would be an infringement they could sue you for if you tried using it.Jul 22 19:47
DaemonFCThe irony is that the employees that went to work at Opera lament the loss of their old code, saying it was good code, and they put a lot of work into optimizing it, but they accidentally point out that they lost it because it was proprietary, what they do now is proprietary, therefore someday we'll lose Vivaldi too.Jul 22 19:48
DaemonFCIt's logical and it follows. So even the employees of Vivaldi admit that their current job is just a paycheck for them and a dead end for you.Jul 22 19:49
DaemonFCAt some indefinite point in the future.Jul 22 19:49
DaemonFCEven if you "consume" the updates, Vivaldi has the troubles that all other proprietary software does. It changes in ways you may not like. It doesn't force you to grab the update, however it's a Web browser and once you stop updating it, you have unpatched security vulnerabilities that pile up, and its Web Platform is frozen in time, and that doesn't matter too much for a year or two, then...Jul 22 19:51 gets annoying, then eventually you can't use it at all.Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCYou simply cannot hold out on an unpatched unsupported Web browser for very long.Jul 22 19:51
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DaemonFCWhen proprietary operating systems become unsupported, major browser vendors stop supporting them a few years later. People still can't or don't want to stop using the proprietary operating system.Jul 22 19:52
DaemonFCSo they become increasingly desperate for a Web browser that still does anything at all.Jul 22 19:53
DaemonFCI believe there's still a couple of really weird ones that are offshoots of Pale Moon that run on XP, but the days are numbered even for that.Jul 22 19:53
DaemonFCClassilla continued supporting Mac OS 8.6 and all unsupported Classic Mac OS and PowerPC and Intel releases of Mac OS X, until last year when Cameron Kaiser gave up on it.Jul 22 19:54
DaemonFCHowever, "support" is a word you have to use broadly with something like this.Jul 22 19:54
DaemonFCIf you read the documentation, it did not work WELL.Jul 22 19:54
DaemonFCIt blocked JavaScript by default because many sites just confused and crashed it, and he couldn't fix all of the security issues, so he decided to wall many of them off.Jul 22 19:55
DaemonFCIt had an extension that supported code snippets to rewrite pages to see if you could get them to work.Jul 22 19:55
DaemonFCIt identified as a NOKIA N60, and according to mjg59_ super genius, that made it a NOKIA N60.Jul 22 19:56
DaemonFC:)Jul 22 19:56
DaemonFC"To get simpler Web pages that are less likely to crash it." Okay, sure.Jul 22 19:56
DaemonFCIn the end, there were only three ways to browse anything on these old Macs, Classilla, Mosaic-CK, or Lynx.Jul 22 19:57
DaemonFCThe first two are now abandonware and were maintained by CK and fared worse every passing year, and Lynx is, well, it's Lynx.Jul 22 19:58
DaemonFCThe point of bloating up the Web is multi-pronged, but one reason is to make it impossible for anyone but GAFAM to put out a Web browser that works entirely as expected.Jul 22 19:59
techrights-newsPatent wars with European software patents are being promoted by the 'evil genius' Georg from the EPO 22 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO’s Georg Weber Increasing Grant Rates Close to 100% in Software Patents (for Supposed ‘Success’) | TechrightsJul 22 20:00
techrights-newsThe cheap and low-grade political propaganda of Campinos has gotten rather tiresome; here he goes again for photo opportunities (or operations, PR operations) instead of tackling real issues, such as the need to comply with rulings from ILOAT (such as disabling of E-mail blocks — a trivial task which should only take a few minutes) 22 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The António Campinos Photo Ops Tour: Pretending to Support Ukraine While Sending the EPO’s Jobs and Applicants’ Money to Belarus | TechrightsJul 22 20:00
DaemonFCIt's not fun. It's not something a few people can write. It's not even something you'd want to compile, and if you do it'll take days to finish and need 2-3 different compilers.Jul 22 20:00
techrights-newsThe “Algerian Skirmisher” and "Evil Genius" (Georg) want European software patents as the “new normal” at the EPO, but many examiners won’t cooperate with such an illegal and self-harming agenda 22 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] The Intrepid Razik, Herr Weber, and the Faustian EPO Pact | TechrightsJul 22 20:01
DaemonFCschestowitz I want to check out SeaMonkey's development branch, 2.57. I don't want it to update my profile, however.Jul 22 20:01
techrights-newsComing tomorrow we have “The EPO Bubble — Part XI” about Herr Weber, who came from the field of food and biotechnology and now fancies himself ‘expert’ in software patents without having written any code 22 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Teaser] The Food Expert Who Got an ‘Appetite’ for Software Patents | TechrightsJul 22 20:01
DaemonFCI guess I could move it off to the side.Jul 22 20:01
DaemonFCIt still identifies as "Gecko 60.8", but undoubtedly, they've backported even MOAR into it.Jul 22 20:01
DaemonFCI wonder how tenable this will be. Eventually, there probably won't be a Gecko upstream and then they'll catch up. :)Jul 22 20:02
DaemonFCI give Gecko 2 years, perhaps 3.Jul 22 20:02
DaemonFCThere is going to be an announcement that Firefox is switching to Chromium and laying more people off.Jul 22 20:03
DaemonFCMicrosoft already told them what they're going to do.Jul 22 20:03
DaemonFC1. Switch to Chromium. 2. Announce that they're a "research organization" (running on handouts from Microsoft and Google). 3. Continue running the "Foundation", probably with Microsoft as a "Platinum member" as the "Leading company with an intelligent cloud solution." like Debian did.Jul 22 20:04
DaemonFCIt seems SeaMonkey and Thunderbird are sharing some development resources since Mozilla kicked them both out.Jul 22 20:06
DaemonFCI didn't even notice it, but Mozilla must have either made life impossible as a part of Mozilla Foundation or kicked SeaMonkey out, because SeaMonkey is a German entity since 2012.Jul 22 20:07
DaemonFCThe browser still references Mozilla in inappropriate places, given this development.Jul 22 20:07
DaemonFCShould probably be patched out.Jul 22 20:07
techrights-newsThe Star Trek Operating System - Invidious ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Star Trek Operating System - InvidiousJul 22 20:10
techrights-news"Hey, DT! Your Videos Are Part Of A Web Course." (Plus Other Comments) - Invidious ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | "Hey, DT! Your Videos Are Part Of A Web Course." (Plus Other Comments) - InvidiousJul 22 20:11
techrights-newsLet’s compare the DAY ZERO Steam Deck to the Q3 Deck. - Invidious ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Let's compare the DAY ZERO Steam Deck to the Q3 Deck. - InvidiousJul 22 20:12
techrights-newsHow to install fonts on Linux QUICKLY! - Invidious ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to install fonts on Linux QUICKLY! - InvidiousJul 22 20:12
techrights-newsLinux CLI in 60 Seconds - ls - Invidious ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - ls - InvidiousJul 22 20:13
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techrights-newsJupiter Broadcasting outsourcing the site to Microsoft proprietary crap after being hijacked by Microsoft (from LINUX people) see 22 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesn’t Care About GNU/Linux and Now It’s Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | TechrightsJul 22 20:18
phaneswow the themes in seamonkey are horridJul 22 20:19
phanesthis is hard to look atJul 22 20:19
techrights-newsThe Uber Leak Exposes the Global War on Workers 22 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Uber Leak Exposes the Global War on WorkersJul 22 20:19
techrights-newsDriverless Robotaxi Fleet Paralyzed for Hours in San Francisco – The Last Driver License Holder… 22 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Driverless Robotaxi Fleet Paralyzed for Hours in San Francisco – The Last Driver License Holder…Jul 22 20:21
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: ^^Jul 22 20:21
schestowitz[TR2]maybe it didn'tr bootJul 22 20:21
schestowitz[TR2]untrusted OSJul 22 20:21
schestowitz[TR2]"play with your doorbell for a couple hours.. while we investigate why your car won't start"Jul 22 20:22
schestowitz[TR2]"your car's certificate is expired"Jul 22 20:22
schestowitz[TR2]"the server is offline at the moment, try again later"Jul 22 20:23
phanesimagine that in space for utilities on an offworld colonyJul 22 20:24
DaemonFCAmazon was "caught" uploading videos and sending them to the police without asking the "owner" of the "Ring" or informing them. This shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.Jul 22 20:24
DaemonFCAnd people don't just use "Ring". They put other Amazon Clown cameras _inside_ their home, like MARISOL does.Jul 22 20:24
DaemonFCSo "ghetto people" who aren't even afraid of breaking the law right in front of a cop will be scared off by the camera. Explain that logic.Jul 22 20:24
DaemonFCI told her "I don't have any cameras.". She asked what I have then. I said, "A revolver.".Jul 22 20:25
phaneslol @ revolverJul 22 20:26
phanesim in the process of milling a few 80% AR lowersJul 22 20:26
DaemonFC"Hai thar Amazon! Pls record me while I shoot the home invader so the cops can use it if they decide to put me on trial pls! kthxbai!". Herr derr!Jul 22 20:26
DaemonFCYou can give the cops the video of the person breaking in and stealing all your shit.Jul 22 20:27
DaemonFCThey still won't bother to try and find the guy.Jul 22 20:27
DaemonFCIt still goes cold.Jul 22 20:27
phanesthats a givenJul 22 20:27
phanesyou should assume a burgler is armed and intends to kill youJul 22 20:27
phanes*burglarJul 22 20:28
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DaemonFCWhen John and I lived in Chicago, the landlord had a security camera in the hallway. A good one. You could clearly make out the face of the guy who held John at gunpoint. It wasn't one of those "Where the FUCK did they get this camera? KMart in 1992?" recordings.Jul 22 20:28
DaemonFCIt was very clear. HD.Jul 22 20:28
DaemonFCWe got a copy of the whole thing to the Chicago Police. They never found the guy.Jul 22 20:28
DaemonFCI don't know why people like cameras.Jul 22 20:28
phaneseasier to find him when the call is to pick up a bodyJul 22 20:29
phanes"he's over there on the floor under that sheet, officer"Jul 22 20:29
DaemonFCBuy a gun. The only thing a camera does is record you using the gun so the prosecutor can pick it over and decide whether to show YOU violating the criminal's "civil right" to break in and rape you to a jury, because it's shit ass Illinois.Jul 22 20:29
DaemonFCDon't get a camera!Jul 22 20:29
DaemonFCYou have to be next level stupid to buy something that's (1) incredibly expensive and (2) more of a danger to yourself than the lawbreaker.Jul 22 20:30
DaemonFCShitcongo is paying people $1,200 to install a Ring Informant. Jul 22 20:30
DaemonFCInform on yourself! We'll pay you back with money we stole from someone else!Jul 22 20:31
DaemonFCInstantly upload videos of yourself in your house to the police.Jul 22 20:31
DaemonFCIt's fun.Jul 22 20:31
DaemonFC$1,200 rebate!Jul 22 20:31
DaemonFCphanes im in the process of milling a few 80% AR lowersJul 22 20:32
AdmFubar 22 20:33
DaemonFCThe only gun in Illinois that's really practical if you're going to use it for self-defense is one small enough to conceal.Jul 22 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Office flaws exploited in nearly 80% of malware attacks - Atlas VPNJul 22 20:33
AdmFubarnow introducing the new Ring Stazi!Jul 22 20:33
DaemonFCThere's probably a lot of guns in the Chicago River.Jul 22 20:34
DaemonFCOnly an idiot murders someone and then keeps the murder weapon.Jul 22 20:34
DaemonFCThat's probably why they find so many people in the south side of Chicago carrying around a gun. They stop them because they're being loud and annoying and take the gun.Jul 22 20:34
DaemonFCPop off a few rounds.Jul 22 20:34
DaemonFCSolve 10 murders.Jul 22 20:35
DaemonFC:)Jul 22 20:35
techrights-newsReality 2.0 Episode 119: RapidDisk and Open Source Maintainership 22 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Reality 2.0 Episode 119: RapidDisk and Open Source Maintainership – Random [Tech] StuffJul 22 20:35
techrights-news"Apple has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in multiple products. These updates address vulnerabilities attackers could exploit to take control of affected systems." 22 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apple Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISAJul 22 20:38
DaemonFCThe police tell you how they solve crimes.Jul 22 20:38
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DaemonFCI mean, it's like,  you work it backwards and you clean up your mess.Jul 22 20:39
techrights-news"Some of these vulnerabilities could allow a remote attacker to execute take control of an affected system." 22 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cisco Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISAJul 22 20:39
techrights-newsCopying Pass Git Repo to PinePhone gemini:// 22 20:44
techrights-newsIndexed Colour Workflow gemini:// 22 20:45
techrights-newsSearch Engine Dilemma Bias VS Accuracy gemini:// 22 20:46
techrights-newsPeople use tabs a lot because Web pages became bloated and take a long time to load, hence muititask workflows (hard on the brain, albeit a tradeoff)). Not always, but that too is a factor, Gemini tackles this...Jul 22 20:47
techrights-newsKafkaesque or how to book a simple appointment gemini:// 22 20:48
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 20:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 22 20:50
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techrights-news[Meme] The EPO’s Pot o’ Gold | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] The EPO’s Pot o’ Gold | TechrightsJul 22 21:02
DaemonFCI'm dividing the SeaMonkey article into sections.Jul 22 21:02
schestowitz[TR2]goodJul 22 21:03
DaemonFCI'm trying to be as text-friendly as possible.Jul 22 21:03
DaemonFCAlthough I'll include a screenshot, I suppose.Jul 22 21:03
DaemonFCI hate Web sites that are not friendly to Lynx.Jul 22 21:04
DaemonFCUsually there's no reason other than the author didn't care if you could read the text, or wanted to punish you for turning off JavaScript.Jul 22 21:04
MinceR22 192113 < matey> but if he had never been born, someone else would have discovered what he didJul 22 21:04
MinceRand that someone else would have had to be quite capable as wellJul 22 21:05
MinceRother than that, it's pretty difficult to guess these "what if" questionsJul 22 21:05
MinceR22 192408 < matey> so why not just stfu and die? whats the pointJul 22 21:05
MinceRinertia.Jul 22 21:05
MinceR22 192552 < matey> jesus isnt coming back Jul 22 21:06
MinceRprobably never existed eitherJul 22 21:06
techuseroh, frankenstein (a nickname) has something to say on jesusJul 22 21:06
techuserhe thinks jesus is fake, but something evil was introduced with this nameJul 22 21:07
techrights-news[Meme] The Sinking Ship? | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] The Sinking Ship? | TechrightsJul 22 21:08
techrights-news[Meme/Video] Another Temper Tantrump From António Campinos | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme/Video] Another Temper Tantrump From António Campinos | TechrightsJul 22 21:27
techrights-news[Meme] Award-winning Fake Patents | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Award-winning Fake Patents | TechrightsJul 22 21:28
DaemonFCschestowitz I'm writing about ChatZilla and IRC at this point.Jul 22 21:29
DaemonFCWhy you would use those instead of Discord or Matrix.Jul 22 21:29
schestowitz[TR2]I've noticed earlier that you use itJul 22 21:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 22 21:30
DaemonFCI used to use ChatZilla because opening something else used more memory than having ChatZilla open alongside Mozilla Suite.Jul 22 21:30
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XRevan86 "‘They told us nobody’s going to take us home’ Russian soldiers held captive in Luhansk region for refusing to fight in Ukraine"Jul 22 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLEJul 22 21:30
DaemonFCChatZilla only used another 100 KB or so, and opening mIRC or XCHat used dozens of MB.Jul 22 21:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ukraine’s richest man to reopen his television channels in Europe to avoid restrictions under “oligarch law”Jul 22 21:30
DaemonFCSo it was a way to de-duplicate things and save system resources.Jul 22 21:30
XRevan86 22 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ukrainian grain export agreement signed in Istanbul | Ukrainska PravdaJul 22 21:31
DaemonFC"With many younger people moving to Matrix or Discord, they may have never even heard of Internet Relay Chat. IRC still exists, and some networks are very popular.Jul 22 21:31 has “bridged” some of these IRC servers in to pressure people to use The unfortunate thing about “centralizing” something like this is you get to deal with arbitrary moderators.Jul 22 21:31 banned me four times in the middle of the night, and with no explanation. They didn’t tell me why. It didn’t even say I was banned or who did it. Just BAM and my account “didn’t exist” on the server anymore.Jul 22 21:31
DaemonFCThis caused a major upheaval. While I eventually created an account they haven’t banned, yet, I don’t trust to handle my chats anymore. Especially not bridging them into IRC servers that also have their own moderation and policies. I only use IRC clients to handle IRC now so there is no middleman that can censor me and cause me to lose everything, even on other networks. Many...Jul 22 21:31
DaemonFC...people are fleeing and causing the protocol to fragment, as servers that supposedly “decentralize and federate” mutually ban each other and the whole thing falls apart into an incoherent mess where you need to run multiple tabs of Element, each one consuming hundreds and hundreds of MB of RAM, to deal with the servers warring against each other. It’s completely stupid....Jul 22 21:31
DaemonFC...Someone...Jul 22 21:31
DaemonFC...told me that is just another way to say “Reddit”, but it’s much worse."Jul 22 21:31
phaneslol @ matrix.orgJul 22 21:41
phanesyeah fedora uses and liberia as its communication mediumJul 22 21:41
phanesits working out exactly as well as that soundsJul 22 21:41
phanesmjg59_: have you shaved your head and eyebrows in your spiraling rage yetJul 22 21:43
phanesAFAFJul 22 21:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The EPO Bubble — Part XI — The Viennese ICT Patent Orchestrator | TechrightsJul 22 21:45
britneyI like Matrix and ElementJul 22 21:48
phaneshexchat seems like a good middle ground Jul 22 21:50
phanesbitlbee back in the day was the bombJul 22 21:50
britneyhexchat is awesomeJul 22 21:50
britneypidgin back in the day was bombJul 22 21:55
britneyit was cool having one program with all the protocols in itJul 22 21:55
britneynow im using a gigabyte of ram having discord and element both loadedJul 22 21:56
MinceRi prefer irssiJul 22 21:56
MinceRthough if i implemented a few fixes, weechat could be even betterJul 22 21:56
techrights-newsMonetising the EPO’s Granting Authority by Abusing This Authority and Violating the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 21:57
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britneyirssi is nice but I found it annoying checking the scrollback without a mouseJul 22 22:04
techrights-news[Meme] Getting Promoted to Head of National Delegation at the European Patent Organisation (EPO) | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Getting Promoted to Head of National Delegation at the European Patent Organisation (EPO) | TechrightsJul 22 22:05
DaemonFC5,537 wordsJul 22 22:08
schestowitz[TR2]wowJul 22 22:09
techrights-news[Meme] Sustainable European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights ⚓ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Sustainable European Patent Office (EPO) | TechrightsJul 22 22:17
DaemonFCManaged to trim it. 5,415Jul 22 22:22
techrights-newsfreenode has 1.5 more channels than "users" (e.g. bots) online 22 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLEJul 22 22:25
schestowitz[TR2]reading 100 word properly can take a  minuteJul 22 22:26
schestowitz[TR2]1000 ten minutesJul 22 22:26
schestowitz[TR2]you now have a one-hour readJul 22 22:26
DaemonFC:/Jul 22 22:29
DaemonFCI'm still trying to figure out how to add a search engine.Jul 22 22:29
DaemonFCProbably about:config.Jul 22 22:29
techuserbritney: there is probably a script/module to add mouse wheel scrollingJul 22 22:30
DaemonFCI remember schestowitz used to just use Thumnderbrowse.Jul 22 22:30
schestowitz[TR2]yesJul 22 22:30
schestowitz[TR2]they broke itJul 22 22:30
schestowitz[TR2]like everything elseJul 22 22:30
techrights-newsZINCHENKO is going 22 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Zinchenko: I am so grateful to City and the Club’s amazing fansJul 22 22:32
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DaemonFCIt's really stupid to have a full web engine in an email client and then not allow web browsing.Jul 22 22:34
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DaemonFCschestowitz Didn't Mitchell Baker insult people who wanted to use Thunderbird a while back.Jul 22 22:35
DaemonFCLike "Everyone uses webmail anyway. Who cares if it's broken?".Jul 22 22:35
DaemonFCThat sort of sentiment.Jul 22 22:35
schestowitz[TR2]that was ages agoJul 22 22:36
schestowitz[TR2]when she tried to rationalise not doing thunderbird anymoreJul 22 22:36
schestowitz[TR2]while gulag (gmail) paid her salaryJul 22 22:36
britneytechuser, maybe but i fell in love with hexchatJul 22 22:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mozilla Should Focus on Improving Thunderbird and Fixing Bugs Instead of Eradicating Innocuous Words | TechrightsJul 22 22:36
DaemonFC 22 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-centralJul 22 22:37
DaemonFC"Paying a tax" to support other applications.Jul 22 22:37
schestowitz[TR2] 22 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Alphabet/Gulag is Closing Down (Tightening the Screws in the Name of ‘Security’) | TechrightsJul 22 22:37
schestowitz[TR2]"Jul 22 22:37
schestowitz[TR2]A few days ago a longtime GMail used [sic] told us that “Google [is] effectively pulling the plug on Thunderbird,” "Jul 22 22:37
britneyschestowitz[TR2], they pulled the plug on alpine mailJul 22 22:39
techrights-newsGoogle Chrome OS Flex: Breathe New Life Into Old Computer ⚓ ䷉ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Google Chrome OS Flex: Breathe New Life Into Old ComputerJul 22 22:39
schestowitz[TR2]linus torvalds said he uses webmail nowJul 22 22:39
schestowitz[TR2]in passinfJul 22 22:39
schestowitz[TR2]in rhe LF BS videoJul 22 22:40
schestowitz[TR2]that was like 4 years agoJul 22 22:40
schestowitz[TR2]here: 22 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linus Torvalds Guided Tour of His Home Office - InvidiousJul 22 22:40
schestowitz[TR2]he says webmailJul 22 22:40
schestowitz[TR2]when I corresponded with him he still used alpineJul 22 22:41
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schestowitz[TR2]wanna bet ZemlinPAC now compels him to use proprietary crap?Jul 22 22:41
schestowitz[TR2]or face consequencesJul 22 22:41
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techrights-newsAcromag XMC-7A50-AP323 - An XMC module based on AMD Xilinx Artix-7 FPGA - CNX Software ⚓ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 22:42
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techrights-newsTurboPrint? 22 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Make color accurate prints in Linux with TurboPrint - Real Linux UserJul 22 22:44
techrights-newsYocto training course updated to Kirkstone release - Bootlin's blog ⚓ ䷉ Source: bootlin | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yocto training course updated to Kirkstone release - Bootlin's blogJul 22 22:44
techrights-news9 useful code snippets for everyday JavaScript development || Part 1 - DEV Community ⚓ ䷉ Source: dev | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 9 useful code snippets for everyday JavaScript development || Part 1 - DEV CommunityJul 22 22:45
techrights-newsGodot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 7 ⚓ ䷉ Source: godotengine | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 7Jul 22 22:46
techrights-newsDebconf 22 photos | Aigarius Blog ⚓ ䷉ Source: aigarius | 22 22:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Debian Takes Money From Microsoft — an Epic Mistake | TechrightsJul 22 22:47
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techrights-newsStupid, boring, lousy buzzword for selling more complexity 22 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Modernization: Making a business caseJul 22 22:49
britneyI use evolution because it works well importing and exporting mboxJul 22 22:49
britneyand it feels less bloated than thunderbirdJul 22 22:49
techrights-newsThis Week in Mozilla Surveillance: Python Environment Freshness – Data@Mozilla ⚓ ䷉ Source: Mozilla | WWW | FreeSW | Firefox | Internet |Jul 22 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This Week in Data: Python Environment Freshness – Data@MozillaJul 22 22:49
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techrights-newsSustainability of the EPO has become highly doubtful in light of inability to recruit examiners in line with the European Patent Convention (EPC), which the EPO violates in a lot of ways 22 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Sustainable European Patent Office (EPO) | TechrightsJul 22 22:50
techrights-newsIn today’s European Patent Office (EPO) the nepotism has become so rampant that having an affair with an EPO Vice-President can help one become a Head of Delegation 22 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Getting Promoted to Head of National Delegation at the European Patent Organisation (EPO) | TechrightsJul 22 22:51
techrights-newsIn an effort to collect fees as fast as possible, regardless of the long-term consequences, the European Patent Office routinely violates the European Patent Convention (EPC); this is becoming a stain on Germany’s image, but it is also a milking cow 22 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Monetising the EPO’s Granting Authority by Abusing This Authority and Violating the European Patent Convention (EPC) | TechrightsJul 22 22:51
techrights-newsBenoît Battistelli increased grant rates of software patents from 2% to 10% and António Campinos plans to make another five-fold (or higher!) increase, in effect violating the European Patent Convention (EPC) by granting lots of invalid European Patents which help maintain an otherwise-fast-imploding bubble 22 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The EPO Bubble — Part XI — The Viennese ICT Patent Orchestrator | TechrightsJul 22 22:51
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techrights-newsTheranos patents, granted by the European Patent Office and then further glorified in an award ceremony, helped legitimise a major fraud and a scam that actually killed a lot of people and impeded actual research 22 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Award-winning Fake Patents | TechrightsJul 22 22:52
techrights-newsPR gaffe Campinos cannot contain or control his mouth, yet the Administrative Council, which he bribes, reappointed him as EPO President last month (he had no actual competition!) 22 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme/Video] Another Temper Tantrump From António Campinos | TechrightsJul 22 22:52
techrights-newsRazik Menidjel rallies the EPO troops to help his master, António Campinos, hide the bubble's rapid implosion (dooming the EPO for several reasons) 22 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] The Sinking Ship? | TechrightsJul 22 22:52
techrights-newsAntónio Campinos thinks that the EPO is a bank (Mr. Campinos used to work for a controversial bank before posing as "IP" guru) 22 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] The EPO’s Pot o’ Gold | TechrightsJul 22 22:53
DaemonFC"Or you can go to Firefox, for whatever that's worth, as Mitchell Baker turned the program into something that's just a damned pest. It's why they're losing their users. At the same time, several years ago, Mitchell Baker attacked the entire concept of supporting other use cases involving Gecko, essentially accusing them of parasitism ("why should we pay a tax blah blah blah"). This is, of...Jul 22 22:53
DaemonFC...course, back before Mozilla itself stopped "dogfooding", using their own technologies, conducting development in the open, where people could participate. A lot of the development now goes on in proprietary malicious platforms, like Discord (they shut down their IRC server) and GitHub (instead of NNTP newsgroups and BugZilla). They've been closing out what's left of the community, firing...Jul 22 22:53
DaemonFC...people, and outsourcing to Microsoft and Google. "Jul 22 22:53
DaemonFC"One more reason why SeaMonkey deserves consideration is because they conduct development and discussion openly. You can just open ChatZilla and point it to Libera Chat and join #SeaMonkey and you're talking to the developers and community, and you don't need to create some sort of Microsoft account and participate in this major fraud and parody of "open source" that Mozilla has created."Jul 22 22:53
DaemonFC"Baker also said they would be "laser focused" on Firefox. Instead, they fire engineers and keep "Diversity and Inclusion" people, and the Mozilla Foundation has turned into a political party calling for more Web censorship and Cancel Culture. So much "Free and Open Source" software today is endangered by letting in people who should have never been there in the first place. Mitchell Baker...Jul 22 22:53 "Exhibit A"."Jul 22 22:53
DaemonFC"What's going wrong is that the far-left crowd, which is a hate group, has commandeered these communities, thrown in with the enemies like Microsoft and Google (who want FOSS to be in turmoil so that they can sit back, laugh, and watch us destroy each other), and the idea of people of good conscience being able to have disagreements isn't tolerated. This is why Mozilla and are a...Jul 22 22:53
DaemonFC...match made in Hell and deserve each other."Jul 22 22:53
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DaemonFC"20 years ago, FOSS was a different beast entirely. It was fun. It was novel. You could make tasteful jokes. In #techrights IRC yesterday, I pointed out that there is a program, now called GNOME Planner, that used to be called MrProject. The joke was that Microsoft had a MS Project. Today, this sort of thing is considered "inappropriate" and gets censored out as "offensive". It's offensive...Jul 22 22:56
DaemonFC...for some on the left that there are men and women, so they have to stop you from referencing that, even in a joke."Jul 22 22:56
DaemonFCMr. GULAG would probably have a stroke if he saw a Mr and MS Project today.Jul 22 22:57
schestowitz[TR2]project offends?Jul 22 22:57
schestowitz[TR2]who? why?Jul 22 22:57
schestowitz[TR2]are they proijecting?Jul 22 22:57
DaemonFCPeople like Gulag.Jul 22 22:57
DaemonFCWho think there's 27 genders or something.Jul 22 22:58
schestowitz[TR2]pro-ject?Jul 22 22:58
schestowitz[TR2]what is the offence?Jul 22 22:58
DaemonFCThere isn't one, so they'll create one and then be offended.Jul 22 22:58
DaemonFCThen they'll be offended for other people as well.Jul 22 22:58
DaemonFCThen if you say chill out, they'll ask why you support rape culture.Jul 22 22:58
techrights-newsOMG! This is stupid. Even if they paid me a million bucks I'd not have this at home. 22 22:58
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techrights-newsThe Dell XPS Developer Edition Will Soon Arrive With Ubuntu Linux 22.04 - Slashdot 22 22:59
schestowitz[TR2]a lot gets you classified as pro-rape nowJul 22 23:00
schestowitz[TR2]1) doing science into the statsitcsJul 22 23:00
schestowitz[TR2]2) having an opinionJul 22 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition Laptop Is Now Certified for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:00
schestowitz[TR2]3) being in an IRC channel that mentions some namesJul 22 23:00
schestowitz[TR2]4) being male and young enough to be capable of "manhandling" a womanJul 22 23:01
schestowitz[TR2]in Twitter they can use innuendooJul 22 23:01
schestowitz[TR2]so anyone is a suspectJul 22 23:01
DaemonFC"Such as how Matthew Garrett, who participated in Microsoft's attacks on GNU/Linux, goes after Richard Stallman and Ted T'so using trumped up allegations which are bullshit.Jul 22 23:02
DaemonFCFirefox isn't fun anymore because Mozilla has gone to the dark side."Jul 22 23:02
DaemonFCCollaborating with Pale Moon on Goanna probably isn't an option.Jul 22 23:04
DaemonFC"M.C. Straver" hid the source code for an entire release and started putting out tarballs as he made releases, with no explanation of what he did.Jul 22 23:05
psydruidHow long will it take for Mozilla to drop Gecko and eventually Firefox?Jul 22 23:06
techrights-newsxkcd: Physics Cost-Saving Tips 22 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Physics Cost-Saving TipsJul 22 23:08
MinceRpale moon is shit tooJul 22 23:08
DaemonFCYeah.Jul 22 23:08
MinceRand gecko is already irrelevant, along with failfoxJul 22 23:08
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MinceRfailfox was losing ground to crashium even before mozilla decided to ruin itJul 22 23:08
MinceRi don't know what they expectedJul 22 23:08
*phanes hears M.C. Straver and starts playing his wrestler intro themeJul 22 23:09
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MinceR"MC Escher's my favorite MC"Jul 22 23:09
DaemonFCIt's better to ignore Shitter.Jul 22 23:12
DaemonFCEventually it's just a bunch of Microshit trolls and people who bend over for them talking to themselves.Jul 22 23:12
techrights-newsMicrosoft keeps bribing Daniel Stenberg in all sorts of way for Curl to remain a prisoner of Microsoft GitHub, and to keep users/contributors too prisoners of such proprietary software 22 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft FOSS Fund Winner: curl | daniel.haxx.seJul 22 23:14
techrights-newsNew committer: Dmitry Salychev (src) 22 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD ProjectJul 22 23:16
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techrights-news"Microsoft FOSS Fund" = bribery program to interfere with Free software communities, keeping them captiveJul 22 23:18
techrights-newsWatch a Deep-Sea Squid Carry Hundreds of Pearl-Like Eggs | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine ⚓ ䷉ Source: smithsonianmagJul 22 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Watch a Deep-Sea Squid Carry Hundreds of Pearl-Like Eggs | Smart News| Smithsonian MagazineJul 22 23:20
techrights-newsGetting Linux onto a non-approved [by Microsoft criminals] laptop - El Reg ⚓ ䷉ Source: theregister | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Getting Linux onto a non-approved laptop • The RegisterJul 22 23:21
techrights-newsDon't be a Microsoft apologist. You can be forgiving, but don't be stupid, dumb, gullible, Criminals will never be your friends unless you participate in their crimes.Jul 22 23:23
techrights-newsAnd as many Microsoft "partners" found out, you can never trust criminals, even when they pretend to be your "friends"...Jul 22 23:23
techrights-newsAnnouncing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13 • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Announcing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13 | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:31
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ 22 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:31
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: stop sayiing mozilla is all policitcsJul 22 23:32
psydruidMicrosoft Slush FundJul 22 23:32
schestowitz[TR2]see what they have just published in their blogJul 22 23:32
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schestowitz[TR2]oops. bugJul 22 23:32
schestowitz[TR2]<a href="">Firefox Presents: A nerdcore rap artist defying expectations</a>Jul 22 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Firefox Presents: A nerdcore rap artist defying expectationsJul 22 23:32
psydruidlolJul 22 23:32
schestowitz[TR2]not about techJul 22 23:32
schestowitz[TR2]theykeep posting fluffJul 22 23:32
psydruidit's all Chinese to meJul 22 23:33
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schestowitz[TR2]"<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Noto Sans'; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4); -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">She said she was drawn to hip-hop artists as a young persoJul 22 23:33
schestowitz[TR2]n because of how they conveyed their unfiltered emotions.  </p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">"Jul 22 23:33
schestowitz[TR2]darnJul 22 23:33
schestowitz[TR2]it's barrier or synergy bugJul 22 23:33
schestowitz[TR2]plus, programs trying to copy as htmlJul 22 23:33
schestowitz[TR2]iphonre= firefoxJul 22 23:34
schestowitz[TR2]music=firefoxJul 22 23:34
schestowitz[TR2]“I am an artist and I hate myself!” Jul 22 23:34
schestowitz[TR2]so use firefoxJul 22 23:35
schestowitz[TR2]that'll fix itJul 22 23:35
schestowitz[TR2]"She raps about her psychology degree while referencing DescartesJul 22 23:35
schestowitz[TR2]"Jul 22 23:35
schestowitz[TR2]Firefox!Jul 22 23:35
britneywhats with all the firefox hateJul 22 23:35
techrights-newsMozilla's blog is totally out of touch with tech 22 23:36
schestowitz[TR2]britney: the people who manage it destroy itJul 22 23:36
schestowitz[TR2]along with the brandJul 22 23:36
schestowitz[TR2]like "linux" foundationJul 22 23:36
schestowitz[TR2]they help themselvesJul 22 23:37
schestowitz[TR2]bonuses and allJul 22 23:37
schestowitz[TR2]they don't care about the products or the brandsJul 22 23:37
schestowitz[TR2]it's all just graftJul 22 23:37
schestowitz[TR2] 22 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) | TechrightsJul 22 23:38
techrights-newsKrita, a sneak peek into the upcoming Pepper&Carrot episode. 22 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Episode 37 Production report, part 2. - David RevoyJul 22 23:38
techrights-newsVictoria’s Secret and Jeffrey Epstein 22 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Victoria's Secret - Angels and DemonsJul 22 23:39
techrights-newsLex Gill Appears before Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence - The Citizen Lab ⚓ ䷉ Source: citizenlabJul 22 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lex Gill Appears before Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence - The Citizen LabJul 22 23:41
techrights-news"Here’s your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and what’s coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" 22 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-29 – Fedora Community BlogJul 22 23:42
MinceR(cat) 22 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living created on 2022-07-20 12:05:39.930702Jul 22 23:42
techrights-newsSharkWire: The Nintendo 64’s GameShark-Operated Online Service ⚓ ䷉ Source: tedium | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 22 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SharkWire: The Nintendo 64’s GameShark-Operated Online ServiceJul 22 23:43
psydruidFirefox got GulagedJul 22 23:47
psydruidintroducing architecture-specific DRM schemes tying you to certain hardware for watching media and playing gamesJul 22 23:48
techrights-news"Rocky Linux 9 is out, therefore it’s time to build new Packer images." 22 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rocky Linux 9 Kernel Panic on Packer Launched qemu-kvm | :: Linux | Security | NetworkingJul 22 23:48
schestowitz[TR2]The Gulag got firefoxJul 22 23:48
techrights-news"We have the great benefit that scraping GMI files is pretty trivial since them are essentially linear text organized per lines." gemini:// 22 23:51
techrights-newsMoonGem 2.2 - Script Mode gemini:// 22 23:51
techrights-newsMy incomplete bilingual Capsule gemini:// 22 23:52
techrights-newsI love email gemini:// 22 23:53
DaemonFCI don't need Widevine to load BitTorrent sites.Jul 22 23:53
DaemonFCIt's just more incentive to use BitTorrent sites instead.Jul 22 23:53
techrights-news"Email is private. Email is not defacto controlled by any one company. Email is time tested. Email is powerful. I love email!" gemini:// 22 23:54
schestowitz[TR2]baker loves gmailJul 22 23:54
DaemonFCBack when YouTube used Flash I installed Flash, then I blocked it from loading for anything but YouTube.Jul 22 23:54
schestowitz[TR2]now you ned te same for JS ;-pJul 22 23:55
DaemonFCschestowitz Part of AOL/Netscape's marketing campaign was Web Standards.Jul 22 23:55
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DaemonFCThey took out a bunch of ads in Wired and then had Wired coordinate it to switch to Standards Compliant Mode at the same time.Jul 22 23:56
DaemonFC 22 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Gemini PortalJul 22 23:56
DaemonFC"Size: 10.3 KB. 98.86% smaller than original HTML: 901.39 KB 🤮"Jul 22 23:56
techrights-newsThe Debian Project is not weakened by people who SPEAK about problems inside Debian (esp. leadership blunders). The Debian Project is weakened by those whom the former group cautions and speaks about. Don't blame messengers.Jul 22 23:58
DaemonFCThe entire page translated into GemText and back to HTML from that is 14.7 KB.Jul 22 23:59
schestowitz[TR2]salvagedJul 22 23:59
DaemonFCschestowitz You could use this to deal with news sites on a 56k Modem if you were still using one.Jul 22 23:59
DaemonFCAnd it would be acceptably fast.Jul 22 23:59

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