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DaemonFCBiden will also have the advantages of incumbency. And the fact that Trump told anyone who would listen that he was cheated in the election and they made it so he can't win.Mar 27 00:00
DaemonFCSo Trump has depressed his own turnout. Not only did he do that, but he went and ruined two Senate elections in Georgia that the Republicans could have won.Mar 27 00:00
DaemonFCHe told them stay home and don't vote because they'll just cheat you anyway.Mar 27 00:00
DaemonFCHis endorsements don't mean as much as he wants people to think they do.Mar 27 00:01
DaemonFCHe's endorsed Sonny Perdue to be the Governor of Georgia as payback for Brian Kemp refusing to try to overturn the election, but Kemp is polling way ahead.Mar 27 00:02
DaemonFCThe whole revenge tour thing is wearing thin.Mar 27 00:02
activeloware you implying USA/"democrats" spit oil into fire in Ukraine, to escalate, and portray Trump as supporter of evil vladimir?Mar 27 00:04
MinceRsounds like somebody wasn't paying attention to the things former president Traffic Cone of Treason saidMar 27 00:05
DaemonFCNo, I think the goal of the United States is to prolong the war and make the losses on the Russian side as heavy as possible.Mar 27 00:06
DaemonFCSupporting Ukraine is secondary. The primary goal is to kill a lot of Russians and to make Putin look like a huge idiot and to boot Russia out of world politics.Mar 27 00:06
DaemonFCIn a month, the Russians have lost more soldiers than they did in 10 years in Afghanistan.Mar 27 00:07
activelowto benefit elections in USA?Mar 27 00:07
DaemonFCThe longer Putin intends to stay there, the worse things will get for him.Mar 27 00:07
DaemonFCThe Russians are already admitting, in a backwards way, what their ultimate plans are now.Mar 27 00:07
activelowwhich are?Mar 27 00:08
DaemonFCWhich is to fall back and try to fortify/prop up the puppet governments they recognized at the start of this whole thing.Mar 27 00:08
DaemonFCThey've gone from trying to destroy Ukraine as a nation to trying to prop up some separatist regions that are illegitimate.Mar 27 00:08
DaemonFCThe Russians quite obviously lied.Mar 27 00:09
activelowthe Minsk agreement insisted on federal elections in those regionsMar 27 00:09
DaemonFCAs of this morning, they have blown up two major Holocaust memorials.Mar 27 00:09
activelowwho?Mar 27 00:09
DaemonFCClaiming you denazify a country by shelling Holocaust memorials is a little odd.Mar 27 00:10
MinceRand in the Budapest Memorandum, terrorussia disclaimed any territorial demands against UkraineMar 27 00:10
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DaemonFChttps://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-support-engineer-lay-offs-2022-3Mar 27 00:30
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Goooooooooolag layoffs.Mar 27 00:30
DaemonFChttps://www.insider.com/favorite-things-i-get-aldi-on-a-budget-meals-list-2022-3#our-shopping-list-usually-comes-out-to-about-20-a-week-for-the-two-of-us-1Mar 27 00:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insider.com | My Household of 2 Shops at Aldi on $20 Budget — Favorite Things I BuyMar 27 00:33
DaemonFCLOLMar 27 00:33
DaemonFCAnother fucking fantasy document from Business Insider.Mar 27 00:33
DaemonFC"Goldhen large eggs: $0.80"Mar 27 00:34
DaemonFCThose are $1.49 at Aldi here.Mar 27 00:35
DaemonFC"Peanut Delight creamy peanut butter: $1.29"Mar 27 00:35
DaemonFCThat's $1.69.Mar 27 00:35
DaemonFC"Happy Farms sharp cheddar cheese: $1.85"Mar 27 00:35
DaemonFC$2.79 hereMar 27 00:35
DaemonFCNot really sure what their angle is, except maybe propaganda.Mar 27 00:36
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Mar 27 00:36
DaemonFCBlack beans are not 55 cents, they are 79 cents.Mar 27 00:36
DaemonFCSays this article was posted 13 hours ago.Mar 27 00:37
DaemonFCThese prices are more like Aldi's prices in 2012.Mar 27 00:37
DaemonFCI haven't seen a can of beans for 55 cents since at least 4-5 years ago.Mar 27 00:39
DaemonFCIt was a long time before anyone heard of a Coronavirus.Mar 27 00:39
DaemonFCAldi's prices aren't much better than Walmart's. The only reason I go there is for a few things Walmart doesn't have.Mar 27 00:40
MinceRmany people have heard of coronaviruses beforeMar 27 00:40
DaemonFCYeah, virologists. Mar 27 00:41
DaemonFCMost people just go, "Yeah, another cold. Great!".Mar 27 00:41
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DaemonFCMandy says he heard gunshots.Mar 27 02:01
DaemonFCIvanova (B5): Truth be told, most of the people around here wouldn't mind if you killed each other, they'd just prefer you did it quietly.Mar 27 02:02
DaemonFChttps://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/illinois-to-shut-down-all-community-based-covid-19-testing-sites-due-to-sharp-drop-in-demand/Mar 27 02:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Illinois to shut down all community-based COVID-19 testing sites due to sharp drop in demandMar 27 02:02
DaemonFCThat's how you make it go away. Stop testing people.Mar 27 02:02
DaemonFCTrump said it. That's the Democrat strategy leading up to the election now.Mar 27 02:03
DaemonFChttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/usMar 27 02:03
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DaemonFCDeaths:Mar 27 02:04
DaemonFC1,003,418Mar 27 02:04
DaemonFCCongratulations to Biden for diverting attention to Russia for this occasion.Mar 27 02:04
DaemonFChttps://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/jury-deliberations-to-continue-for-3rd-day-in-trial-of-man-who-fatally-shot-teen-who-was-in-stolen-car-in-volo/Mar 27 02:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Jury deliberations to continue for 3rd day in trial of man who fatally shot teen who was in stolen car in VoloMar 27 02:07
DaemonFCNothing to deliberate about. If he shot some people for stealing his car, you vote to acquit and go home.Mar 27 02:07
DaemonFC"Glover sustained minor non-gunshot injuries from the incident and did not need medical treatment, police said."Mar 27 02:08
DaemonFCSo the teenagers who stole his car were armed (illegally) and shot him (also illegally). Why aren't the survivors up on trial for car theft and shooting him and illegal gun?Mar 27 02:09
DaemonFCIllinois truly is the 7th circle of hell.Mar 27 02:09
DaemonFCI'm looking at the court records.Mar 27 02:12
DaemonFCIt's clear that some of the jury members don't want to convict him and that this could end in a mistrial soon.Mar 27 02:12
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DaemonFCI see nobody wants to notice I said I would vote to acquit a black man for shooting a car thief.Mar 27 03:24
DaemonFCHe did nothing wrong. The car was probably his way to work, and the people stealing his car had an illegal handgun.Mar 27 03:25
DaemonFCI think I'd make a good juror. Most of what the prosecutors do in there is just waste everyone's time.Mar 27 03:26
DaemonFCThey try to pack the jury with statists and that's how they get convictions.Mar 27 03:26
DaemonFCMost people are bootlickers and toadies for the government because they've been completely brainwashed.Mar 27 03:27
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matey〖bnchs〗  │ they don't understand we can't be crushing up our balls <- imagine telling a busty woman on the bus "could you squeeze your arms together so your chest starts to ache? people on the bus need room, you inconsiderate hag!"Mar 27 04:14
mateyin a polite society (lol as if) no one would do that. not sure how all the hate about "manspreading" is differentMar 27 04:14
mateyif someone needs me to crunch my own genitals together so theres room on the bus, there are too many people on the bus, qedMar 27 04:15
mateyits not like i recreate the leg-crossing scene from "basic instinct" when i sitMar 27 04:16
mateyor the choreography from "hit me baby one more time"Mar 27 04:16
mateymeanwhile there could be someone twice my size on the bus weighing one side of it down. what do we say "hey pal, could you go on a diet plz? people on the bus need room!"Mar 27 04:17
mateynope, because youd have to be a total dick Mar 27 04:18
mateyit used to be okay to hate on fat people, but now theres a new group its okay to hate. hate is okay, you just have to check which group is "it"Mar 27 04:19
matey/me notes that pretty soon theyll make men use their own separate washroomsMar 27 04:20
DaemonFChttp://techrights.org/2022/03/26/canonical-self-censorship/Mar 27 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical is Becoming Softer (Pro-Microsoft and Against Free Speech) | TechrightsMar 27 04:30
DaemonFCLOL at the Firefly GIF.Mar 27 04:30
DaemonFC“Are we mandating tolerance of corruption?”Mar 27 04:30
DaemonFCFedora does.Mar 27 04:30
DaemonFCUbuntu was the first distribution with one of those ridiculous codes of conduct.Mar 27 04:31
DaemonFCYou don't actually have to do anything malicious to run afoul of it and become the victim of a public knifing.Mar 27 04:31
DaemonFCAsk Kevin Kofler (former Fedora KDE maintainer who actually USED Fedora KDE).Mar 27 04:32
DaemonFCThe only reason it didn't fall apart years ago was it had maintainers who used it and tried to adjust KDE to the changes going on because of GNOME.Mar 27 04:32
DaemonFCThey've completely let it go.Mar 27 04:32
DaemonFCIt's pretty obvious that IBM does things to break KDE deliberately.Mar 27 04:33
DaemonFCI've been watching this go on for years now.Mar 27 04:33
DaemonFCIn that way they're like the Pre-IBM Red Hat but only worse.Mar 27 04:34
matey<DaemonFC> Ubuntu was the first distribution with one of those ridiculous codes of conduct. <- "openrespect" was the beta version of codes of conductMar 27 04:51
mateyjono bacon, "community manager"Mar 27 04:51
mateycommunity mangler, more likeMar 27 04:52
matey[h]omer (this chat, 2008) did a great piece on "openrespect"Mar 27 04:52
mateyinspired me as much as any blog post everMar 27 04:52
mateyi think he called openrespect "a little sinister"Mar 27 04:53
matey"respect freedom, not pragmatism" Mar 27 04:53
mateyid link to it on every /quit if it didnt require js just to display the text of the article (which i also think is a little sinister)Mar 27 04:54
mateydisplay the text first, then run your little scripts all over itMar 27 04:54
mateyunless youre using the js to access a db <- actually, just dont ever do thisMar 27 04:55
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matey<DaemonFC> It's pretty obvious that IBM does things to break KDE deliberately. <- as someone who dislikes both ibm and kde, i wish i knew what this referred to (id add it to the things i bitch about)Mar 27 04:58
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schestowitz-TR[04:51] <matey> jono bacon, "community manager"Mar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TRhe is an "artist"Mar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TR"art of community management"Mar 27 04:59
mateybullshit is an artMar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TRbossing volunteers is an artMar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TRlike heavy metal of hisMar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TRshouting at the microphoneMar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TRis musicMar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TRartMar 27 04:59
mateyi watched his interview with you, he was pretty nastyMar 27 04:59
mateysmug little shit he isMar 27 04:59
mateyimagine him teaching respectMar 27 04:59
schestowitz-TROPENrespectMar 27 05:00
mateyreminded me of mick jagger sneering about the verge using 12 notes from an INSTRUMENTAL (3rd party) version of a song the stones themselves didnt even write, they got it from the staple singersMar 27 05:00
mateylike the verve was a thief "omg 12 notes, how the fuck does he sleep at night"Mar 27 05:00
mateyso they sued for 100% of writing credit, and the stones didnt wrote one bloody note of it but the verve wrote 100% (minus 12 notes of course)Mar 27 05:01
mjg59_Fair to disagree with Jono's approaches to community leadership, but "This isn't art" is a hallmark of authoritarianismMar 27 05:01
mateyand they won and sold it to nike so they could sell shoesMar 27 05:01
techrights-newsWindows itself is malware https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-antimalware-service-executable-process/Mar 27 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Should You Disable "Antimalware Service Executable" Process in Windows? - Make Tech EasierMar 27 05:01
matey"This isn't art" is a hallmark of authoritarianism <- this seems like a stretch (but as rhetoric its top shelf)Mar 27 05:02
mjg59_Fascism and communism have both gone hard in on defining what legitimate art isMar 27 05:02
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mateyi dont consider him authoritarian, i consider him opportunist (and id bet you this is closer to the mark)Mar 27 05:03
mateyFascism and communism <- i dont know, i think it depends on what you mean by communism (really) Mar 27 05:03
mateyunder authoritarian regimes like stalins, of courseMar 27 05:03
mateyif it offends, its not legitimate Mar 27 05:03
mateyif its anti-authoritarian, it offendsMar 27 05:03
mjg59_Oh, yeah, definitely referring to soviet-style regimesMar 27 05:03
matey"i dont know what art isnt, but i know what i dont like"Mar 27 05:04
techrights-news4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 39.0 STABLE released. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163032Mar 27 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 39.0 STABLE released. | Tux MachinesMar 27 05:04
mjg59_Spent a bunch of time in the past with metalheads and while it's not solidly my thing there's legitimate expression thereMar 27 05:05
mateyyeah i liked metal until it started to shill for the record industry (which it didnt as a whole, i simply outgrew it at the same time SOME bands turned into 'businesses')Mar 27 05:06
techrights-newsImminent release for the media images for Debian 10.12 and 11.3 20220327 0010 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163029#comment-33207Mar 27 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 “Bullseye” Released with 83 Security Updates and 92 Bug Fixes | Tux MachinesMar 27 05:06
mateylawyericaMar 27 05:06
mateyharvester of royalites, let me be!Mar 27 05:07
mateytypos ruin jokes :(Mar 27 05:07
schestowitz-TRgermany tries to emulate thisMar 27 05:08
mateyyeah germany experimented with authoritarianism a couple of timesMar 27 05:08
mateyit didnt end wellMar 27 05:08
techrights-newsEasyOS: Increased gap between drive icons and tray http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163002#comment-33208Mar 27 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.4 | Tux MachinesMar 27 05:10
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techrights-newsThis week in KDE: Progress on gestures and 15-minute bugs! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163033Mar 27 05:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Progress on gestures and 15-minute bugs! | Tux MachinesMar 27 05:29
techrights-newsthe tragedy of gethostbyname - Ariadne’s Space ⚓ https://ariadne.space/2022/03/27/the-tragedy-of-gethostbyname/ ䷉ Source: ariadneMar 27 05:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | the tragedy of gethostbyname – Ariadne's SpaceMar 27 05:29
techrights-news"Central Bank Accounts are Dangerous and Unnecessary" published https://taler.net/en/news/2022-03.htmlMar 27 05:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-taler.net | GNU TalerMar 27 05:32
techrights-newsUbuntu becomes a rolling release with Rolling Rhino • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163034Mar 27 05:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu becomes a rolling release with Rolling Rhino | Tux MachinesMar 27 05:38
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techrights-newsMindless openwashing https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/comcast-commits-open-source see http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/Mar 27 05:55
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: fiercetelecom.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/comcast-commits-open-sourceMar 27 05:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercetelecom.com | Comcast shares its code to boost open source security | Fierce TelecomMar 27 05:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That “Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy” | TechrightsMar 27 05:55
techrights-newsBritish capaganda https://www.forces.net/news/penguin-parade-welcomes-back-royal-navy-icebreaker-antarcticMar 27 05:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forces.net | Penguin parade welcomes Royal Navy icebreaker back to the AntarcticMar 27 05:57
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techrights-newsKDE Neon is a really awesome distro. Give it a try!Mar 27 06:01
techrights-news"One of Britain's largest unions, Unite, is calling on chip designer Arm's management to pause an ongoing redundancy process and "open up the books" for closer inspection to reveal the company's "true" financial health." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/uks_largest_union_to_arm/Mar 27 06:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | UK's largest union calls on Arm to press pause on job cuts • The RegisterMar 27 06:04
techrights-newsConti=Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_security/Mar 27 06:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | SATCOM networks on high alert after US govt warning • The RegisterMar 27 06:05
techrights-newsZoom is basically spyware. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/zoom_dpia/Mar 27 06:05
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/zoom_dpia/Mar 27 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Zoom agrees privacy conditions with Dutch ICT purchasing org • The RegisterMar 27 06:05
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techrights-newsThis is the sort of WEBSPAM that's RUINING the WWW and makes me want to use Gemini ANY time I can https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/Mar 27 06:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Last Minute Deal: Linux Administration Bootcamp - Geeky GadgetsMar 27 06:06
techrights-newsBest Open Source Security Tools in 2022 https://www.toolbox.com/it-security/vulnerability-management/articles/top-open-source-cybersecurity-tools/Mar 27 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.toolbox.com | NO TITLEMar 27 06:07
techrights-newsLinux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) 5 'Elsie' is very, very nice! I tried it yesterday. If you're into GNOME or Cinnamon, give it a try!Mar 27 06:22
techrights-newsGuess what OS they use extensively https://www.law360.com/legalethics/articles/1476798/legal-stakes-rise-as-court-data-breach-growsMar 27 06:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Legal Stakes Rise As Court Data Breach Grows - Law360Mar 27 06:23
techrights-newsAFTER?? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-22/leaders-measure-progress-after-covid-pandemic-blm-protestsMar 27 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Mar 27 06:23
techrights-newsLabor groups aim to block autonomous tractors in California | Agri-Pulse Communications, Inc. ⚓ https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/17414-labor-groups-aim-to-block-autonomous-tractors-in-california ䷉ Source: agri-pulseMar 27 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Labor groups aim to block autonomous tractors in California | Agri-Pulse Communications, Inc.Mar 27 06:24
techrights-newsThis move by Mozilla is INSANE BTW https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/Mar 27 06:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Mozilla adds tiered subscription plans to MDN Web Docs • The RegisterMar 27 06:25
techrights-news"Addiction tech"... sounds like Facebook, but it ain't https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/money-flows-addiction-tech-will-it-curb-soaring-opioid-overdose-deathsMar 27 06:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercebiotech.com | Money flows into addiction tech, but will it curb soaring opioid overdose deaths? | Fierce BiotechMar 27 06:27
techrights-newsWhat about listening devices (Cortana) data? Blackmail repository. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/microsoft_lapsus_breach_probe/Mar 27 06:29
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/microsoft_lapsus_breach_probe/Mar 27 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft investigates Lapsus$ claim of Bing, Cortana theft • The RegisterMar 27 06:29
techrights-newsMicrosoft propaganda relay securityboulevard suggests Microsoft malware on AWS https://securityboulevard.com/2022/03/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint-on-aws-part-4-final-entry/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/Mar 27 06:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securityboulevard.com | Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on AWS: Part 4 – Final Entry - Security BoulevardMar 27 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | TechrightsMar 27 06:30
techrights-newsForbes legitimising a SCAM again? https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/what-is-an-nft-how-do-nfts-work/Mar 27 06:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Is An NFT? How Do NFTs Work? – Forbes Advisor INDIAMar 27 06:31
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▂▆▁▇▂▃▅▅▄▇▄▅▁▂▃▂▅▆▁▂▁▅▅▁▇▄▁▁▅▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 20.13 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▃▂▄▅▁▁▂▃▁▁▂▂▃▁▄▅▂▆▁▂▁▂▇▂▂▂█▁▂██▁ avg(k/sec) 67.01▕ swarm size (avg): 305.50  ⟲Mar 27 06:59
techrights-news"We (A&amp;A) sell gigabit services, as both Ethernet and FTTP. We see other ISPs selling 950M or 900M, why?" https://www.revk.uk/2022/03/when-is-gigabit-not-gigabit.htmlMar 27 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.revk.uk | RevK®'s ramblings: When is gigabit not gigabit?Mar 27 07:00
techrights-news"Lslocks(8) is the Linux command that you usually use to list current file locks on a machine." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LslocksNotesMar 27 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/LslocksNotesMar 27 07:01
techrights-news"Infrastructure-as-code (IaC) is often seen as a deployment tool. Write code to describe your infrastructure" https://matt-rickard.com/vertical-workflow-engines/Mar 27 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Build-as-CodeMar 27 07:01
techrights-news"In this how-to, we’ll look at the zip command, a useful utility that enables us to specify lists of files" https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/how-to/zip-files-in-linuxMar 27 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | How To Zip Files in Linux | Tom's HardwareMar 27 07:02
techrights-news"If you haven't heard of Asahi, it's a Linux distribution based on Arch Linux that aims to bring a polished Linux experience on Apple Silicon Macs" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/installing-asahi-linux-alpha-on-my-m1-mac-miniMar 27 07:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | Installing the Asahi Linux Alpha on my M1 Mac mini | Jeff GeerlingMar 27 07:02
techrights-newsSocial control media ttps://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/26/the-invasion-of-ukraine-is-not-the-first-social-media-war-but-it-is-the-most-viral see http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/Mar 27 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Profits From Conflict | TechrightsMar 27 07:05
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techrights-newsHEY HI and death https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/03/26/the-dangers-of-weaponizing-artificial-intelligence/Mar 27 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-moderndiplomacy.eu | The Dangers of Weaponizing Artificial Intelligence - Modern DiplomacyMar 27 07:05
techrights-news"The director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations warned the private sector to be on high alert for potential Russian cyberattacks" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/fbi-warns-of-russian-cyberattacks-altice-t-mobile-deal-nfl-blockchain-deal-visionary-in-broadband/Mar 27 07:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | FBI Warns of Russian Cyberattacks, Altice-T-Mobile Deal, NFL Blockchain Deal, Visionary in Broadband : Broadband BreakfastMar 27 07:06
techrights-news"Now The V In RISC-V Stands For VRoom" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/now-the-v-in-risc-v-stands-for-vroom/Mar 27 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Now The V In RISC-V Stands For VRoom | HackadayMar 27 07:07
techrights-news"geek icons like Bill Gates"???????? https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/arduino-keeps-your-classic-timex-datalink-in-sync/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/Mar 27 07:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arduino Keeps Your Classic Timex Datalink In Sync | HackadayMar 27 07:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | TechrightsMar 27 07:08
techrights-news"For the past week I’ve found myself focusing heavily on the mobile version of Lagrange." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_heads-down.gmiMar 27 07:12
techrights-news"The existence of fudging frustrated me for a while because it forced me to come up with so many ways to be radically transparent to the dorks. Rolling openly, open tally of hitpoints etc. Sometimes showing parts from the module." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fudging-designersMar 27 07:13
techrights-news"The past couple of years of the COVID pandemic have been rough in some unexpected ways, and it’s clear that our world will never be quite the same as it was beforehand" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/hacker-camps-are-back-to-get-you-in-the-mood-heres-a-story-from-1997/Mar 27 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hacker Camps Are Back. To Get You In The Mood, Here’s A Story From 1997 | HackadayMar 27 07:14
techrights-newsBezos https://truthout.org/audio/communities-are-paying-amazon-to-set-up-shop-it-should-be-the-other-way-around/Mar 27 07:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Communities Are Paying Amazon to Set Up Shop. It Should Be the Other Way Around.Mar 27 07:16
techrights-news"With two Oscar nominations, "Parallel Mothers" is one of the contenders for the prestigious award ceremonies tomorrow." https://torrentfreak.com/oscar-contender-targets-official-oscars-website-with-a-dmca-takedown-notice-220326/Mar 27 07:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oscar Contender Targets Official Oscars Website With a DMCA Takedown Notice * TorrentFreakMar 27 07:16
techrights-newsWe have 20 tests at home left. Watch what US is doing. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/26/utter-travesty-uninsured-americans-will-now-be-charged-125-single-pcr-covid-19-testMar 27 07:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Utter Travesty': Uninsured Americans Will Now Be Charged $125 for a Single PCR Covid-19 TestMar 27 07:22
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techrights-news"Happy 10th Birthday to the Open Source Robotics Foundation OSRF founders discuss changes they’ve seen over the last decade" https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/03/open-source-robotics-foundation-osrf.htmlMar 27 07:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eponymouspickle.blogspot.com | The Eponymous Pickle: Open Source Robotics Foundation (OSRF)Mar 27 07:25
techrights-news"Being a predominantly functional language, the fact that jq has a reduce function comes as no surprise." https://qmacro.org/2022/03/25/understanding-jq-s-reduce-function/Mar 27 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qmacro.org | Understanding jq's reduce functionMar 27 07:26
techrights-news"Arrays in Cobol are called tables, and they are a bit odd." https://craftofcoding.wordpress.com/2022/03/25/coding-cobol-tricks-with-arrays-or-tables/Mar 27 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-craftofcoding.wordpress.com | Coding Cobol: Tricks with arrays (or tables) – The Craft of CodingMar 27 07:26
techrights-news"On a daily basis, I work on firmware for an embedded device that uses the Bridgetek FT800." https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2022/03/fun-with-font-rendering-consistency-in-python/Mar 27 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.downtowndougbrown.com | Downtown Doug Brown » Fun with font rendering consistency in PythonMar 27 07:27
techrights-news"The image above is his acceptance speech for a lifetime achievement award at the Webby’s in 2013." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-actual-pronunciation-of-gif-from-the-creator/Mar 27 07:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | The Actual Pronunciation of GIF, from the Creator - Daniel MiesslerMar 27 07:27
techrights-newsProprietary https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/researchers-urged-to-avoid-bug-bounty-firms-after-hackerone-hiccup.htmlMar 27 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Researchers urged to avoid bug bounty firms after HackerOne hiccupMar 27 07:29
techrights-news"Pedo guy" Elon https://www.thewrap.com/elon-musk-twitter-censorship-free-speech-undermines-democracyMar 27 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thewrap.com | Elon Musk on Twitter Censorship Undermining DemocracyMar 27 07:29
techrights-news"usk shared his thoughts on Twitter after being asked if a new platform is something he'd consider." https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18079680/elon-musk-giving-serious-thought-new-social-media-platform/Mar 27 07:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Elon Musk says he's 'giving serious thought' to building a new social media platform which focuses on free speechMar 27 07:30
techrights-news"The deal includes a way for Europeans to object if they feel that their privacy has been violated" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/business/us-europe-data-privacy.htmlMar 27 07:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | U.S. and European Leaders Reach Deal on Trans-Atlantic Data Privacy - The New York TimesMar 27 07:30
techrights-news"The European Union and United States made a breakthrough in their yearslong battle over the privacy of data that flows across the Atlantic" https://www.securityweek.com/us-eu-sign-data-transfer-deal-ease-privacy-concernsMar 27 07:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US, EU Sign Data Transfer Deal to Ease Privacy Concerns | SecurityWeek.ComMar 27 07:31
techrights-news"Bloomberg reported that Exxon simply doesn’t have enough pipelines to transport all the gas it produces from shale oil" https://futurism.com/the-byte/exxon-burning-gas-mine-bitcoinMar 27 07:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Exxon Mobil Is Starting to Burn Excess Gas to Mine BitcoinMar 27 07:32
techrights-news"In 2002, confidential intelligence sources informed ATF Agents of an Argentinean suspect brazenly selling machine guns" https://www.atf.gov/our-history/internet-arms-traffickingMar 27 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atf.gov | Internet Arms Trafficking | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and ExplosivesMar 27 07:34
techrights-newsYou would expect this in Putin's Russia, would you not? https://www.thevalleypost.com/american-libraries-are-protesting-the-growing-onslaught-to-censor-books/Mar 27 07:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thevalleypost.com | American libraries are protesting the growing onslaught to censor booksMar 27 07:35
techrights-news"Though I appealed the removal and had the post reinstated, within 24 hours it was taken down again with a second, far more ominous warning from the platform that my account was about to be deleted." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/nadia-bokody-sexual-double-standard-in-censorship-of-identical-nude-photos/TTAE3RUMGN7KW4ERJQVSBFKJVQ/Mar 27 07:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nzherald.co.nz | Nadia Bokody: Sexual double standard in censorship of identical nude photos - NZ HeraldMar 27 07:36
techrights-news"The sophistication of the anime dubbing industry has made great strides over the past few decades." https://www.cbr.com/anime-censored-english-audiences/Mar 27 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Anime That Were Censored For English Speaking Audiences | CBRMar 27 07:37
techrights-newsPutin is finishing off the media in Russia https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-venediktov-pig-head/31769204.html https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220325-russian-journalists-quit-over-putin-propagandaMar 27 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Pig's Head Left At Moscow Apartment Of Radio Station's Editor In ChiefMar 27 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | Russian journalists quit over Putin 'propaganda'Mar 27 07:38
techrights-newsMonopolies like Gulag and the EU https://variety.com/2022/digital/global/facebook-google-amazon-apple-digital-market-act-europe-regulation-1235214516/ Microsoft criminals off he hook?Mar 27 07:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook, Google to be Regulated as Europe Sets Digital Markets Act - VarietyMar 27 07:40
techrights-newsOpenSSL vulnerability can ‘definitely be weaponized,’ NSA cyber director says https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/application-security/openssl-vulnerability-can-definitely-be-weaponized-nsa-cyber-director-saysMar 27 07:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | OpenSSL vulnerability can ‘definitely be weaponized,’ NSA cyber director says | SC MediaMar 27 07:43
techrights-newsRussia looks for tech fixes for sanctions-hit HPC sector https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/russia-mobile-clusters/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/Mar 27 07:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Russia looks for tech fixes for sanctions-hit HPC sector • The RegisterMar 27 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | TechrightsMar 27 07:45
techrights-newsI'm glad Gulag sanctioned the United States back in 2003 when it had invaded Iraq. Oh, wait...Mar 27 07:46
techrights-newsThey call everything "smart" now... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/pluribus_netvisor_for_nvidia_dpus/Mar 27 07:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Pluribus ports network OS to Nvidia SmartNICs • The RegisterMar 27 07:47
techrights-newsThe hypocrisy is astounding as the US is most aggressive in the Internet space https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/956180/cyber-warfare-what-is-russia-planning-nextMar 27 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theweek.co.uk | Cyberwarfare: what is Russia planning? | The Week UKMar 27 07:50
techrights-news"Robert Wille, Professor at the Technical University of Munich and CSO at the Software Competence Center, Hagenberg, considers the classical simulation of quantum circuits" https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/simulation-of-quantum-circuits/132333/Mar 27 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openaccessgovernment.org | Classical simulation of quantum circuitsMar 27 07:51
techrights-newsNow it's Cisco using "CLOWN" BS for marketing https://www.techrepublic.com/article/cisco-innovations-accelerate-hybrid-cloud-adoption/Mar 27 07:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cisco announces new innovations to accelerate hybrid cloud adoption | TechRepublicMar 27 07:52
techrights-newsThe Wall Street Times is stuck in some other universe.... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/21/arts/design/christies-andy-warhol-marilyn-monroe.htmlMar 27 07:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Christie’s to Offer a Marilyn Monroe by Warhol for an Estimated $200 Million - The New York TimesMar 27 07:53
techrights-newsYes, dear, US never ever had any debris in space... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/china_moon_impact/Mar 27 07:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Chinese rocket junk may have just smashed into Moon • The RegisterMar 27 07:57
AdmFubarhttps://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grantsMar 27 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple is doling out $200,000 'retention grants' to keep people from leaving - ProtocolMar 27 07:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▁▁▃▁▅▃▄▅▄▅▄▅▆█▄▅▄▅▄▅▄▅▆▆▅▅▅▅▅▅▃▅▅▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 23.88 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▃▂▂▂▂▂▃▂▃▂▂▃▂▁▂▄▂▃▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 14.86▕ swarm size (avg): 281.61  ⟲Mar 27 07:59
techrights-newsThis actually keeps salaries lower https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grantsMar 27 07:59
techrights-newsWeird analogy as Reddit is state propaganda and censorship https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/douban_rectification/Mar 27 08:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | China's internet regulator moves on Douban • The RegisterMar 27 08:01
AdmFubarhttps://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n5e9/russian-internet-lanternMar 27 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Meet the Secretive US Company Building an ‘Unbreakable’ Internet Inside RussiaMar 27 08:01
AdmFubarthey'll let you know... eventually     https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/22/government-can-seize-your-messages-secret-lawmakers-want-you-know-if-it-does/Mar 27 08:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The government can seize your messages in secret. Lawmakers want you to know if it does. - The Washington PostMar 27 08:02
schestowitz-TRtrueMar 27 08:02
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: I was simulating this mormnng: in my mind...Mar 27 08:02
schestowitz-TRif there was a knock by people implementing searchMar 27 08:03
schestowitz-TRfirst, I need eyewitness.Mar 27 08:03
schestowitz-TRlike wifeMar 27 08:03
schestowitz-TRthen mask onMar 27 08:03
schestowitz-TRthen demand to see a court warrantMar 27 08:03
schestowitz-TRso they don't abuse it ad hocMar 27 08:03
schestowitz-TRthey need reasonable suspicion to access equipment and messages from whistleblowersMar 27 08:03
schestowitz-TRafaik, british law requires that tooMar 27 08:04
schestowitz-TRthey must go through court/judgeMar 27 08:04
schestowitz-TRto establish causeMar 27 08:04
schestowitz-TRthe assange and lauri love cases are interestingMar 27 08:04
schestowitz-TRthey used "hacking" as pretextMar 27 08:04
schestowitz-TRin the love case, maybe fairMar 27 08:04
schestowitz-TRin the assange case, it's not an accusation from another countryMar 27 08:04
schestowitz-TRbut in love cases the police acted as imposter ... courier... actually a special crime unitMar 27 08:05
schestowitz-TRnot police per seMar 27 08:05
schestowitz-TRwhich is questionableMar 27 08:05
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schestowitzhttps://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/bms-bets-volastras-vision-chromosomal-instability-partnering-11-billion-dealMar 27 08:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercebiotech.com | Bristol Myers lands $1.1B biobucks oncology pact with Volastra, a biotech with phones 'ringing off the hook' | Fierce BiotechMar 27 08:06
schestowitz-TRin NZ, they raided a home with antiterror squadMar 27 08:07
schestowitz-TRarmed to the teethMar 27 08:07
techrights-newsFemmewashing Pentagon companies http://nwasianweekly.com/2022/03/breaking-in-to-the-tech-industry/Mar 27 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwasianweekly.com | Breaking in to the tech industryMar 27 08:08
techrights-news11 Best Systemd-Free Linux Distributions • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163035Mar 27 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 11 Best Systemd-Free Linux Distributions | Tux MachinesMar 27 08:08
techrights-newsTinkerer ports Doom to Pi Pico - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/doom_pi_pico/ ䷉ Source: theregisterMar 27 08:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Tinkerer ports Doom to Pi Pico • The RegisterMar 27 08:11
techrights-newsCriminals attacked criminals (Microsoft) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/lapsus-larger-companies/Mar 27 08:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Lapsus$ gang sends a worrying message to would-be criminals • The RegisterMar 27 08:13
techrights-newsBringing fakecoins under control https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/eu_parliament_cryptocurrencies/Mar 27 08:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Europe advances cryptocurrency rules without Bitcoin ban • The RegisterMar 27 08:14
techrights-newsOASIS - ROS 2 based Smart Home operating system integrates with Kodi • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163036Mar 27 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OASIS - ROS 2 based Smart Home operating system integrates with Kodi | Tux MachinesMar 27 08:17
techrights-newsGulag arrogantly pretends to be king of code in some PR stunt https://www.freepressjournal.in/education/edtech-firm-omotec-student-wins-google-code-to-learn-2021-competitionMar 27 08:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | Edtech firm, OMOTEC student wins Google Code to Learn 2021 competitionMar 27 08:18
techrights-newsUgly, shitty, expensive. You can get one for 10-20 pounds. https://www.windowscentral.com/drop-ctrl-reviewMar 27 08:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Drop CTRL review: A great yet expensive foundation for a custom mechanical keyboard | Windows CentralMar 27 08:22
techrights-newsRemember that many of today's 'articles' and 'reviews' are webspam, i.e. marketing in clothing of "journalism". Most of the WWW is like that now. Corporate military-grade propaganda battleground. It's getting hard to discern truth from fiction/astroturf.Mar 27 08:24
techrights-newsZDNet is AGAIN promoting/legitimising SCAMS https://www.zdnet.com/finance/blockchain/exclusive-ftx-buys-good-luck-games-in-quest-to-convince-gamers-to-love-nfts-and-blockchain/ http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNetMar 27 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exclusive: FTX buys Good Luck Games in quest to convince gamers to love NFTs and blockchain | ZDNetMar 27 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsMar 27 08:25
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/Mar 27 08:26
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/Mar 27 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Exotic Lily sells ransomware groups access to targets • The RegisterMar 27 08:26
AdmFubarcut off your head in spite of your body   https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/25/self-decapitating-sea-slug/Mar 27 08:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch This Sea Slug Survive Self-Decapitation | Snopes.comMar 27 08:27
techrights-newsAvosLocker = Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/avoslocker-ransomware-critical-infrastructure-fbi/Mar 27 08:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | FBI: Ransomware gang is targeting US critical infrastructure • The RegisterMar 27 08:28
AdmFubarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isrBXeAsW20Mar 27 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=isrBXeAsW20Mar 27 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Monty Python - Shaver - InvidiousMar 27 08:29
techrights-newsThis assumes that the more people get hooked on surveillance networks with useless devices, the better off society will be. Meanwhile millions are homeless and sick. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/fcc-dangles-1b-third-emergency-connectivity-fund-roundMar 27 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercetelecom.com | FCC dangles $1B in third Emergency Connectivity Fund round | Fierce TelecomMar 27 08:29
techrights-newsFEATURE-Behind Russia’s ’digital iron curtain', tech workarounds thrive | Technology ⚓ https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/technology/1973550-feature-behind-russias-digital-iron-curtain-tech-workarounds-thrive ䷉ Source: devdiscourseMar 27 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devdiscourse.com | FEATURE-Behind Russia's 'digital iron curtain', tech workarounds thrive | TechnologyMar 27 08:30
techrights-news"Logs for network equipment in security critical functions shall be fully recorded and made available for audit for 13 months" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/03/telco_security_regulations_dcms_consultation/Mar 27 08:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | DCMS launches public consultation on telco security • The RegisterMar 27 08:32
techrights-newsChine already dominates hardware and schools the world (with Taiwan and Japan). India does the same to software... https://saudigazette.com.sa/article/618360Mar 27 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-saudigazette.com.sa | India gearing up to become global hub for a digital economy - Saudi GazetteMar 27 08:34
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 26, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/27/irc-log-260322/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/27/irc-log-260322/Mar 27 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 26, 2022 | TechrightsMar 27 08:36
techrights-news"In 1987, CompuServe needed to pump crisp graphics over slow dial-up modems. The technology it created to do so is very much with us today." https://www.fastcompany.com/90734869/history-of-gif-steve-wilhite one of over a million USians killed by COVIDMar 27 08:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | How Steve Wilhite created the GIF in 1987 at CompuServeMar 27 08:40
*matey (~matey@9hp5w2mfcxg2e.irc) has joined #techrightsMar 27 08:40
techrights-newsUS did the same to Iran https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/us/politics/russians-cyberattacks-infrastructure-nuclear-plant.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/StuxnetMar 27 08:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | U.S. Accuses 4 Russians of Hacking Infrastructure, Including Nuclear Plant - The New York TimesMar 27 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Stuxnet - TechrightsMar 27 08:42
techrights-newsLawsuits by proxy from Microsoft criminals, some alleged https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/in-appeal-apple-argues-epic-failed-to-prove-facts-of-fortnite-lawsuit/Mar 27 08:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In Appeal, Apple Argues Epic 'Failed to Prove' Facts of Fortnite Lawsuit - CNETMar 27 08:43
techrights-newsGulag = espionage. This is no goodwill, it's expansion of scope of surveillance. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/google-fiber-goes-hiring-spree-support-expansion-effortsMar 27 08:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercetelecom.com | Google Fiber goes on hiring spree to support expansion efforts | Fierce TelecomMar 27 08:44
matey/me crosses the streamsMar 27 08:45
mateyso apparently putin is installing systemd on everythingMar 27 08:45
techrights-newsFake security https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/fido_password_killer/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/Mar 27 08:46
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/fido_password_killer/Mar 27 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | FIDO Alliance says it has finally killed the password • The RegisterMar 27 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | TechrightsMar 27 08:46
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techrights-newsCOVID profiteering https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/abbott-snags-1b-us-government-contract-rapid-covid-19-testsMar 27 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercebiotech.com | Abbott snags $1B U.S. government contract for rapid COVID-19 tests | Fierce BiotechMar 27 08:49
techrights-newsAstro Slide 5G review: Yin and yang • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163037Mar 27 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Astro Slide 5G review: Yin and yang | Tux MachinesMar 27 08:50
techrights-newsMicrosoft is scamming people, propping up fakecoins https://www.fool.ca/2022/03/17/5-play-to-earn-cryptocurrencies-you-need-to-have-on-your-watchlist/Mar 27 08:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.ca | 5 Play-to-Earn Cryptocurrencies You Need to Have on Your Watchlist | The Motley Fool CanadaMar 27 08:51
techrights-newsAll proprietary software should be removed, including American ones. They're using secrecy to do malicious things. Russia hasn't a monopoly on that. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/kaspersky_germany_antivirus/Mar 27 08:53
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/kaspersky_germany_antivirus/Mar 27 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | German citizens told to uninstall Kaspersky antivirus • The RegisterMar 27 08:53
techrights-newsGulag espionage machine coming for your medical records and even your flood, heart rate etc. https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-launches-new-search-tool-for-provider-appointments-seeks-fda-approv/621029/Mar 27 08:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.healthcaredive.com | Google launches new search tool for provider appointments, seeks FDA approval for Fitbit feature | Healthcare DiveMar 27 08:54
techrights-newsPoop surveillance https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/health-officials-see-bright-future-poop-surveillanceMar 27 08:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercebiotech.com | Health officials see bright future in poop surveillance | Fierce BiotechMar 27 08:54
techrights-newsComing soon: Gulag Poop(TM). "Connect your "smart" phone to this peripheral for your safety, health, fitness..." (and Gulag will take all the shitty data 'upstream', overnight while you sleep)Mar 27 08:57
techrights-newsICBM is all about buzzwords now. AIDevSecOps++ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ibm_flexera_aiops/Mar 27 08:57
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ibm_flexera_aiops/Mar 27 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IBM partners with Flexera on AIOps IT automation • The RegisterMar 27 08:57
techrights-newsRISC-V rising. https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_stocks/iar-systems-commits-to-bring-leading-development-tools-to-the-growing-number-of-risc-v/article_91b62a1b-5ed3-5881-a8ad-05d6708c089f.htmlMar 27 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IAR Systems commits to bring leading development tools to the growing number of RISC-V users | News | wfmz.comMar 27 08:58
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techrights-newsWhat skills? Memorising Microsoft and Amazon GUIs? Or real computer skills? https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/indian-workers-requiring-digital-skills-set-to-rise-by-273-mn-over-next-year-reportMar 27 08:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | Indian workers requiring digital skills set to rise by 27.3 mn over next year: ReportMar 27 08:59
techrights-newsWhat do Islamic terrorists and proprietary software have in common? They crash planes into buildings. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/business/boeing-trial-737-max-mark-forkner.htmlMar 27 09:02
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/business/boeing-trial-737-max-mark-forkner.htmlMar 27 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Jury Finds Former Boeing Pilot Not Guilty of Fraud in 737 Max Case - The New York TimesMar 27 09:02
techrights-news'Next Generation Litigation Software'??? https://seekingalpha.com/news/3815230-leonovus-secures-goc-standing-offer-for-its-hyper-secure-file-transfer-solutionMar 27 09:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-seekingalpha.com | Leonovus secures GoC standing offer for its hyper-secure file transfer solution | Seeking AlphaMar 27 09:03
techrights-news"That project included writing 40,000 lines of code for the moon-landing lunar module, and its “mothership,” the orbiting craft carrying the command and service modules." https://thenewstack.io/nasa-programming-legend-margaret-hamilton-gives-rare-interview/Mar 27 09:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | Margaret Hamilton Recalls Her Life as a Programming Pioneer – The New StackMar 27 09:04
techrights-news"There are a few Qualcomm Snapdragon 7c Chrome OS devices on the market today. But some might like to see the more powerful Snapdragon 8cx inside a Chromebook." x86 buh-bye https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/snapdragon-8cx-chromebooks-could-be-coming-but-not-soon/ the more expensive energy gets, the worse off x86/Windows will beMar 27 09:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aboutchromebooks.com | Snapdragon 8cx Chromebooks could be coming, but not soon – About ChromebooksMar 27 09:06
techrights-news"SiFive is pulling in nearly $400m in funding this year between a new investment round and the proceeds of a business sale with the ambitious mission of eclipsing rival Arm – and the x86 world of Intel and AMD – with processor designs for everything from smartphones to servers." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/sifive_175m_series_f/Mar 27 09:07
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/sifive_175m_series_f/Mar 27 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | SiFive bags $175m to further challenge Arm with RISC-V • The RegisterMar 27 09:07
techrights-newsSalesforce viciously attacked the founder of GNU/Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/salesforce_jan_6_select_committee_subpoena/ it also profits from crimes against humanity: http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/Mar 27 09:08
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/salesforce_jan_6_select_committee_subpoena/Mar 27 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Republican Party sues Salesforce over Capitol riot info dump • The RegisterMar 27 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The OSI’s President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | TechrightsMar 27 09:08
techrights-newsICBM: we're good at buzzwords! Buy our wares!! https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220322005807/en/Red-Hat-Lowers-Barriers-to-Artificial-Intelligence-Projects-with-Red-Hat-OpenShiftMar 27 09:11
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: businesswire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220322005807/en/Red-Hat-Lowers-Barriers-to-Artificial-Intelligence-Projects-with-Red-Hat-OpenShiftMar 27 09:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Red Hat Lowers Barriers to Artificial Intelligence Projects with Red Hat OpenShift | Business WireMar 27 09:11
techrights-news"Policy via social media: It's a thing now." No, it is not. Social control media is sheer stupidity at this point. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/qualcomm_russia_sales/Mar 27 09:12
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/qualcomm_russia_sales/Mar 27 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Qualcomm tweets it has stopped selling to Russia • The RegisterMar 27 09:12
techrights-news"A now-former Apple employee accused of causing the iGiant to lose more than $10m in a super-scam has been charged with conspiracy, laundering, and tax evasion." Will Apple ALSO be charged for tax evasion??? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/apple_buyer_fraud_allegations/Mar 27 09:13
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/apple_buyer_fraud_allegations/Mar 27 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Buyer at Apple allegedly ripped off company in super-scam • The RegisterMar 27 09:13
techrights-newsThis was malware shipped by Microsoft, stop blaming "open source" https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252515031/Pro-Ukraine-sabotage-renews-scrutiny-on-open-source-securityMar 27 09:14
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techtarget.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252515031/Pro-Ukraine-sabotage-renews-scrutiny-on-open-source-securityMar 27 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtarget.com | Pro-Ukraine sabotage renews scrutiny on open source securityMar 27 09:14
techrights-newsThese sanctions are, in general, harming the most vulnerable people the most, inc. Russian opposition groups https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin-sanctions-oligarchs.htmlMar 27 09:17
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin-sanctions-oligarchs.htmlMar 27 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Sanctions on Oligarchs Won’t End Putin’s War in Ukraine - The New York TimesMar 27 09:17
techrights-newsGrifters and frauds https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/oneweb_spacex/Mar 27 09:18
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/oneweb_spacex/Mar 27 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | OneWeb turns to SpaceX for satellite launches • The RegisterMar 27 09:18
techrights-newsThey do NOT talk about E-mail; they talk about SPAM https://www.practicalecommerce.com/mastering-email-deliverability-in-2022Mar 27 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.practicalecommerce.com | Mastering Email Deliverability in 2022 - Practical EcommerceMar 27 09:23
techrights-newsHowTo fix Cleartext HTTP traffic not permitted in Android • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163038Mar 27 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to fix Cleartext HTTP traffic not permitted in Android | Tux MachinesMar 27 09:23
techrights-newsHow many people need to die before the downfall of "pedo guy" Musk? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_ai/Mar 27 09:25
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_ai/Mar 27 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Tesla employee: I was fired for self-driving crash vid post • The RegisterMar 27 09:25
techrights-newsHe used to write about Free software; now it's a pool of clownwashing BS. https://www.itweb.co.za/content/xA9PO7NZBzN7o4J8Mar 27 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | The world as code: Transforming ones and zeros | ITWebMar 27 09:27
techrights-newsIf more people paid attention, they'd not carry such devices around https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/23/1047899/secret-police-app-minnesota-police-journalists-protests-data/Mar 27 09:28
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: technologyreview.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/23/1047899/secret-police-app-minnesota-police-journalists-protests-data/Mar 27 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Inside the app Minnesota police use collect data on journalists at protests | MIT Technology ReviewMar 27 09:28
techrights-newsShouldn't there be a right to repairable broadband? - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/panic_stations/ ䷉ Source: theregisterMar 27 09:29
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/panic_stations/Mar 27 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Shouldn't there be a right to repairable broadband? • The RegisterMar 27 09:29
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ukraine_cobalt_caddywipe/Mar 27 09:31
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ukraine_cobalt_caddywipe/Mar 27 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The Windows malware on Ukraine CERT's radar right now • The RegisterMar 27 09:31
techrights-newsAlgorithms, not "HEY HI!!" https://fortune.com/2022/03/25/ai-systems-language-training-internet-race-gender-bias/Mar 27 09:32
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: fortune.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fortune.com/2022/03/25/ai-systems-language-training-internet-race-gender-bias/Mar 27 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The miseducation of A.I.: Systems trained using the internet can develop gender, race, and age bias, new report finds | FortuneMar 27 09:32
techrights-news"Another great day to be a Linux user." https://www.osnews.com/story/134695/icloud-and-many-other-apple-services-are-down-or-experiencing-issues/Mar 27 09:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iCloud and many other Apple services are down or experiencing issues – OSnewsMar 27 09:33
techrights-news"to stream" = worthless. I want to KEEP what I watch and what I like. GulagTube is NOT on our side. https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/youtube-now-offers-tv-show-seasons-stream-freeMar 27 09:36
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: fiercevideo.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/youtube-now-offers-tv-show-seasons-stream-freeMar 27 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercevideo.com | YouTube now offers TV show seasons to stream for free | Fierce VideoMar 27 09:36
techrights-newsThis is good. Good for many things inc. the environment. https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/work-from-home-magicpin-announces-its-remote-first-workplace-policyMar 27 09:36
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/work-from-home-magicpin-announces-its-remote-first-workplace-policyMar 27 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | Work from Home: Magicpin announces its Remote-First workplace policyMar 27 09:36
techrights-newsClown Guru (Micosofters) rewrite the history of the most important OS https://devops.com/why-the-linux-kernel-is-still-important/ see http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/Mar 27 09:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why the Linux Kernel is Still Important - DevOps.comMar 27 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesn’t Care About GNU/Linux and Now It’s Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | TechrightsMar 27 09:39
techrights-newsWhat Is GrapheneOS, and How Does It Make Android More Private? https://www.howtogeek.com/790266/what-is-grapheneos-and-how-does-it-make-android-more-private/ if it's a mobile phone, it is NOT privateMar 27 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | What Is GrapheneOS, and How Does It Make Android More Private?Mar 27 09:40
techrights-news"app for Windows and Mac ... Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS) severity rating of 9.1, making it a critical weakness." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/wd_edgerover_app_flaw/Mar 27 09:41
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/wd_edgerover_app_flaw/Mar 27 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Another flaw found in Western Digital's EdgeRover app • The RegisterMar 27 09:41
techrights-news"Criminals are staging a devious new kind of kidnapping — and the FBI is stumped." https://www.businessinsider.com/virtual-kidnappers-scamming-terrified-parents-out-of-millions-fbi-2022-3?r=US&IR=TMar 27 09:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Virtual Kidnappers Are Scamming Parents Out of Millions of DollarsMar 27 09:43
techrights-newsThey need to delete Microsoft Windows. That's a good start. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland-when-great-power-competition-meets-digital-world/ukraine’s-‘digital-army’-battlingMar 27 09:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nationalinterest.org | Ukraine’s ‘Digital Army’ Is Battling Russia in Cyberspace | The National InterestMar 27 09:44
techrights-newsCompanies that make malware which they claim will "protect" you https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/cma_nortonlifelock_avast/Mar 27 09:47
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/cma_nortonlifelock_avast/Mar 27 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | UK's CMA halts NortonLifeLock's acquisition of Avast • The RegisterMar 27 09:47
techrights-newsGulag boss. The Pentagon's man... https://patch.com/california/berkeley/uc-berkeley-news-google-boss-fund-data-science-initiativeMar 27 09:48
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: patch.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://patch.com/california/berkeley/uc-berkeley-news-google-boss-fund-data-science-initiativeMar 27 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UC Berkeley News: Google Boss To Fund Data Science Initiative | Berkeley, CA PatchMar 27 09:48
techrights-news"The diffoscope maintainers are pleased to announce the release of diffoscope version 209." https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-209-released/Mar 27 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 209 releasedMar 27 09:51
techrights-newsNew book highlights open source tools and tips for personal cybersecurity | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/3/book-review-cybersecurity ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | LinuxMar 27 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New book highlights open source tools and tips for personal cybersecurity | Opensource.comMar 27 09:51
techrights-news"Today I found out that the debian security team handles oldstable releases only for a year or so, after which the LTS team takes over, which is arguably less secure." https://dt.iki.fi/debian-dist-upgrade-stable-from-oldstableMar 27 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dist-upgrade Debian from oldstable to stable | dt.iki.fiMar 27 09:54
techrights-newsA collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion https://dt.iki.fi/forum-posts-collectionMar 27 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion | dt.iki.fiMar 27 09:54
techrights-newsTwo new Linux handhelds with nostalgic vibes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163039Mar 27 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Two new Linux handhelds with nostalgic vibes | Tux MachinesMar 27 09:58
*bnchs (~bnchs@160.178.2.21) has joined #techrightsMar 27 10:13
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*bnchs (~bnchs@m4ps4kvuyp2zs.irc) has joined #techrightsMar 27 10:14
bnchsalexa where do i liveMar 27 10:14
bnchsalexa add big dildo to my shopping listMar 27 10:14
bnchsdont let a speaker that someone can play audio through near an alexaMar 27 10:14
schestowitz-TRalexa, who does fee cheat on his wife with?Mar 27 10:19
schestowitz-TR*jeffMar 27 10:19
schestowitz-TR(bezos)Mar 27 10:19
bnchsfun fact: you can leak a streamer's location if they have an alexa nearbyMar 27 10:19
bnchsjust say (with text to speech) "alexa, what is my current location"Mar 27 10:19
mateyright?Mar 27 10:20
schestowitz-TRthey can get location from the wifiMar 27 10:20
schestowitz-TRtriagulation Mar 27 10:20
schestowitz-TRorMar 27 10:20
schestowitz-TRphones on that same wifi spotMar 27 10:20
matey :)Mar 27 10:20
schestowitz-TRwhere the phones broadcast location with high accuracy all the timeMar 27 10:20
schestowitz-TRalexa, is it true bezos shuts down alexa?Mar 27 10:21
bnchsyeahMar 27 10:21
bnchsbut you have to know the wifi listMar 27 10:21
bnchsor be near the personMar 27 10:21
bnchsalexa, order 12 gallons of lubeMar 27 10:21
bnchsalexa, call momMar 27 10:22
bnchsalexa, call me an uberMar 27 10:23
bnchsits fun to mess with other people's alexas (not like they own it) when they're streamingMar 27 10:23
schestowitz-TRalexa: you are uber, get lube for momMar 27 10:23
schestowitz-TRbnchs: those are fadsMar 27 10:24
schestowitz-TRno practical value to themMar 27 10:24
bnchsyeahMar 27 10:24
schestowitz-TRmaybe a little for disabled peopleMar 27 10:24
bnchsits just a spying deviceMar 27 10:24
schestowitz-TRbut other than that, none...Mar 27 10:24
schestowitz-TRproducts get more expensive, harder to repairMar 27 10:24
schestowitz-TRnever mind privacy aspectsMar 27 10:24
bnchsmaybe like telling you whats your locationMar 27 10:24
schestowitz-TRwhich many people do not mindMar 27 10:25
schestowitz-TRthey mind more when it costs them a lot of moneyMar 27 10:25
bnchssimply hearing a TTS audio saying "alexa, whats my current location" is enough to trip itMar 27 10:25
mateyother fads that will be here for a while: credit cards, smartphones, internet-connected appliancesMar 27 10:26
mateylike appliances that have been in homes since the 1950s or earlier, but now with internetMar 27 10:26
bnchswhats the point of credit cardsMar 27 10:26
bnchsmaking shopping more convenient? Mar 27 10:27
mateyincluding nestMar 27 10:27
mateyfront door cameras probably not going away soon enough eitherMar 27 10:27
bnchsalso allowing you to easily pay for shitMar 27 10:27
bnchswhich also means more careless purchasesMar 27 10:27
bnchsits easy to swipe credit cards many timesMar 27 10:28
mateyfront door cameras brought to you by porch thieves brought to you by amazonMar 27 10:29
bnchsthe security of credit cards depends on a 4-digit codeMar 27 10:30
mateyits only a matter of time before a porch thief grabs a camera that the recepient was planning to install to watch porch thievesMar 27 10:30
bnchs(btw over 6.5k possible combinations)Mar 27 10:30
bnchs4-digit codes are weak as shitMar 27 10:31
bnchsmaybe they should upgrade to 8-digitMar 27 10:31
bnchsor moreMar 27 10:31
mateythey wont upgrade to anything that makes too much work for people calling in saying they dont know their pinMar 27 10:32
mateyi can see a future upgrade to 5 digit pinsMar 27 10:32
bnchsyeah so they're stuck on a weak ass securityMar 27 10:32
bnchscomputers are so powerful these daysMar 27 10:32
mateymaybe theyll just scrap pins altogether and use nfcMar 27 10:32
bnchsthat 6.5k combinations is literally nothingMar 27 10:33
bnchsif you bruteforce multi-threadedMar 27 10:33
bnchsmatey: banks still use cobol and old IBM mainframes right?Mar 27 10:34
techrights-newsLinks 27/03/2022: 4MLinux 39.0 Release and Windows Chaos | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/27/4mlinux-39-0-release/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/27/4mlinux-39-0-release/Mar 27 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/03/2022: 4MLinux 39.0 Release and Windows Chaos | TechrightsMar 27 10:35
matey<bnchs> matey: banks still use cobol and old IBM mainframes right? <- um, sureMar 27 10:36
mateyi know some still use cobolMar 27 10:37
bnchswell they probably have it hardcoded to 4-digit PINsMar 27 10:37
mateyim going with my theory for nowMar 27 10:37
bnchsinstead of having a modular security interfaceMar 27 10:37
mateyits probably all the individual readers that are hard-coded to 4-digit pinsMar 27 10:37
bnchsyeahMar 27 10:38
mateybut the reason is: typical userMar 27 10:38
bnchs5-digit pins can have 59k combinationsMar 27 10:38
techrights-newsProprietary Software, Security News, and DRM • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163040Mar 27 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software, Security News, and DRM | Tux MachinesMar 27 10:38
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163041Mar 27 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 27 10:38
mateyi think the main security feature is fraud detection, not fraud preventionMar 27 10:38
techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: Pi Pico, Open Source Robotics Foundation, RISC-V • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163042Mar 27 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Pi Pico, Open Source Robotics Foundation, RISC-V | Tux MachinesMar 27 10:38
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163043Mar 27 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 27 10:39
mateyits not too hard to fake a purchase if you really want toMar 27 10:39
mateybut you can get caught after the factMar 27 10:39
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163044Mar 27 10:39
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mateythe entire industry seems to rely on detection, not preventionMar 27 10:39
mateythis is not my area of expertise, just observationMar 27 10:40
bnchsmy calcs were wrongMar 27 10:40
bnchsyou could say 10000 for 4-digit pinsMar 27 10:41
mateyi would think 5-digits means 99999Mar 27 10:41
mateybecause... Mar 27 10:41
bnchsand 100k for 5-digitsMar 27 10:41
mateyrightMar 27 10:41
bnchsyou gotta also count the 0000Mar 27 10:41
mateyyesMar 27 10:41
mateywhat did you do, 9**n ?Mar 27 10:41
bnchsyeahMar 27 10:41
bnchsshould have done 10Mar 27 10:42
mateytime for coffeeMar 27 10:42
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DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> where the phones broadcast location with high accuracy all the timeMar 27 11:21
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DaemonFCUnless it was like that LG G5 with the malfunctioning GPS that said I was using the spore drive from the USS Discovery to teleport around Chicago.Mar 27 11:21
DaemonFCThat would have looked "interesting" had anyone wanted my location data for an investigation later.Mar 27 11:22
DaemonFCThat you could make it 90 blocks in 2 minutes.Mar 27 11:22
DaemonFCThen bounce back to the other side of town again.Mar 27 11:22
DaemonFC"A MacBook hybrid drive company is named tarDISK." -WikipediaMar 27 11:24
DaemonFCApple should rename their Clown Storage that collapsed twice this week alone "'tard disk".Mar 27 11:25
DaemonFC"Hey NSA! What's the weather today?"Mar 27 11:26
DaemonFC"Hey NSA! Tell me a joke!"Mar 27 11:26
DaemonFC"Hey NSA! Please stop telling my daughter to put a fork in the outlet over the Alexa, thanks!"Mar 27 11:26
DaemonFCWanna see a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil DISAPPEAR! TADA!Mar 27 11:28
DaemonFChttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/25/cleve-jones-san-francisco-housing-rent-lgbtq-activistMar 27 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | San Francisco activist behind Aids quilt to leave home after rent doubles to $5,200 | San Francisco | The GuardianMar 27 12:02
DaemonFCWelcome to SJW Fantasy Island. mjg59_ will be your host, filling in for Mr. Roarke.Mar 27 12:02
Ariadneseriously?Mar 27 12:03
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DaemonFC"The new owner, Lily Pao Kue, is a 30-year-old self-described stock market investor who, according to Zillow records reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle, purchased the property in February for $1,585,000.Mar 27 12:04
DaemonFCAccording to the Chronicle, Kue has installed security cameras around the property, begun construction work in the building and had a car that belonged to Jones’ friend and roommate removed from the property.Mar 27 12:04
DaemonFCIn a letter Kue sent to Jones on 18 March, she stated that she assessed he had vacated the property and she would be increasing the current rent – $2,393 – to $5,200 as of 1 July, invoking a Costa-Hawkins petition.Mar 27 12:04
DaemonFCCosta-Hawkins is a state law that sets certain requirements for cities with rent control. Under the law, landlords are allowed to raise rent to market rate once a tenant moves out."Mar 27 12:04
DaemonFCA 30 year old "stock market investor" bought the place and is trying to claim that he abandoned his apartment, along with other harassment, to drive him out under the city's failed rent control law.Mar 27 12:05
DaemonFCVery Progressive CityMar 27 12:06
DaemonFCIf he fights her, then what happens next obviously is yet another eviction by fire that the city says it doesn't find any evidence of.Mar 27 12:06
mateythis would be more compelling if he had grown up there and lived there for... how longMar 27 12:09
mateyand by more compelling, is the idea that a couple anecdotes regarding a metropolitan area sum up the region?Mar 27 12:09
mateydont get me wrong, the conclusion isnt something id necessarily argue with. its the evidence thats amusing.Mar 27 12:10
mateyfake progressives are the main kind.Mar 27 12:10
mateykue sounds like a "lovely" person tooMar 27 12:12
bnchshelloMar 27 12:12
mateyo/Mar 27 12:12
bnchsso my dad bought a "smart" tvMar 27 12:15
bnchsspecifically a lg webosMar 27 12:16
mateyawfulMar 27 12:16
bnchswell it's a step better than samsung's crapMar 27 12:16
bnchsit can be easily rootedMar 27 12:16
bnchsand i avoided SW updating itMar 27 12:16
matey fair enough i guessMar 27 12:17
matey/me wonders why this stuff has to be built into the tv when the alternative is a tiny box with a cable (like a roku)Mar 27 12:17
mateytiny and easier to upgradeMar 27 12:18
bnchsalso get a taste of these buzzwordsMar 27 12:18
bnchsLG ThinQ AIMar 27 12:18
bnchs"AI upscaling"Mar 27 12:19
mateysounds fancyMar 27 12:19
DaemonFCHe's been living in that apartment since the AIDS crisis began.Mar 27 12:19
DaemonFCSo that's at least 40-42 years?Mar 27 12:19
bnchsit's probably gonna be as shit as samsung's font-rendering systemMar 27 12:19
mateylike instead of alexa, a little robot with a bowtie and a towel over his arm comes out to ask if youd like a wine listMar 27 12:19
DaemonFCI wouldn't connect a TV to the Internet.Mar 27 12:20
DaemonFCIt's becoming hard to buy one that doesn't have "apps", but you can ignore the apps.Mar 27 12:20
bnchsi didn't but i guess he didMar 27 12:20
matey/me doesnt own a tv, but at least you can still buy a monitorMar 27 12:21
DaemonFCIt's built-in obsolescence. Within 5 years none of the apps work anymore even if you want to use them and you'd have to plug in a stick.Mar 27 12:21
bnchsthe remote has a fucking microphoneMar 27 12:21
DaemonFCI don't know why apps in a TV are a selling point.Mar 27 12:21
DaemonFCThe screen may work for 20 years, but the apps won't work in 4 or 5.Mar 27 12:21
mateyits the gentrification of technologyMar 27 12:21
bnchsthey call it a "magic remote"Mar 27 12:21
bnchsaka a wiimote with a microphone inside itMar 27 12:22
mateyyeah i think some people got busted for turning some public toilets into "magic toilets" Mar 27 12:22
DaemonFCTo be perfectly honest, if it wasn't for the weight of them, and the fact that they're a power hog, I'd likely still be using a CRT television.Mar 27 12:22
DaemonFCIt's bad enough whenever you move, you hurt your back with all of the other stuff.Mar 27 12:22
DaemonFCMost LED televisions today weigh just 15-20% of what a TV with half the screen size did in the CRT days.Mar 27 12:23
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bnchsbecause it's one thing i wantMar 27 12:23
bnchsa TV that records what i sayMar 27 12:24
bnchscalls it "magicMar 27 12:24
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matey/me bought headphones that dont have bluetoothMar 27 12:24
mateythats not a problem, except they have a mic thats built inMar 27 12:24
mateythats not a problem, except laptop supports the connector with the built in micMar 27 12:25
matey/me opened the headphones and removed the mic Mar 27 12:25
bnchs"LG Magic Remote: The Voice Remote for LG AI Smart TVs"Mar 27 12:25
bnchs"LG Voice Mate"Mar 27 12:25
mateymost headphones have a mic OR bluetooth. "neither" isnt much of an option unless you want earbudsMar 27 12:26
mateylg voice mate, the remote control that "mates" with youMar 27 12:26
DaemonFCIt can't transmit that anywhere if you don't give it an Internet connection.Mar 27 12:26
mateymost headphones have a mic OR bluetooth <- obviously if you go higher end theres more selectionMar 27 12:26
bnchsDaemonFC, he gave itMar 27 12:26
bnchsthe joke is that the "magic" remote has dedicated buttons for streaming servicesMar 27 12:27
bnchslike disney+, netfilx and shitMar 27 12:27
mateythe magic toilets also had streaming servi-- okay, okayMar 27 12:27
mateyand shit <- you already said disney+Mar 27 12:28
bnchsLG magic AI toiletMar 27 12:28
bnchshas a microphone and cameraMar 27 12:28
bnchsto monitor your shitMar 27 12:28
bnchsand LG shit mateMar 27 12:28
mateyupload your farts to the cloudMar 27 12:28
mateyalexa-- oh, sorryMar 27 12:29
mateypeople from the mid 20th century would not understand our modern hihg-tech toilet jokesMar 27 12:30
matey"whats a 'magic toilet'?"Mar 27 12:30
matey"you really dont want to know. but if you REALLY want to know, just read 1984"Mar 27 12:30
DaemonFCDisney MinusMar 27 12:30
matey"winston had been having trouble ever since he checked out that new restaurant"Mar 27 12:31
DaemonFCI watched the first episode of that new Halo series.Mar 27 12:31
DaemonFCIt looks like Amazon has used it to clone The Mandalorian.Mar 27 12:31
bnchshaloMar 27 12:31
mateyo/Mar 27 12:31
bnchsaka microsoft-owned showMar 27 12:31
bnchsi mean gameMar 27 12:31
bnchsand sohwMar 27 12:31
mateyred vs blue was betterMar 27 12:32
matey/me stopped watching it after they bought githubMar 27 12:32
bnchsthey put cortana as a character in haloMar 27 12:33
mateyi thought it was the other way aroundMar 27 12:33
bnchswell it isMar 27 12:33
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=hd0Z2Ok3f1c the voice of cortana Mar 27 12:34
bnchsthey put cortana in windowsMar 27 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Exclusive Interview with Jenn Taylor (the voice of Cortana) at E3 2013 - InvidiousMar 27 12:34
bnchswith the voice actor of cortanaMar 27 12:34
bnchsjenn taylorMar 27 12:34
bnchswait wtf is thisMar 27 12:35
bnchs"Microsoft's "Windows in the car" concept"Mar 27 12:35
mateymicrosoft has been in cars for yearsMar 27 12:35
mateywhats "windows in the car"Mar 27 12:35
bnchsit was referenced in the cortana articleMar 27 12:36
bnchsi think it's this https://medium.com/msft-space/windows-10-on-the-car-789c69863d56Mar 27 12:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10, in the car. Windows 10 is almost everywhere: it’s… | by Mehedi Hassan | MSFT Space | MediumMar 27 12:36
bnchs"The idea for Windows 10 Auto is pretty simple. When you get in the car, you can simply dock your Windows 10 mobile into the car, or connect it via a wire which will automatically start Windows 10 Auto."Mar 27 12:36
mateyyour windows 10 mobile?Mar 27 12:37
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bnchsyesMar 27 12:38
bnchsyou plug your windows 10 mobile into the windows 10 carMar 27 12:38
bnchsso that you get introduced to more microsoft bullshitMar 27 12:38
matey/me digs up an old copy of "if microsoft made cars" from 199... whenever email was inventedMar 27 12:38
matey(i know it was way before 1990)Mar 27 12:39
matey70s?Mar 27 12:39
mateyhttps://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htmMar 27 12:39
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: harvard.edu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htmMar 27 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hcs.harvard.edu | If Microsoft Made CarsMar 27 12:39
bnchsyesMar 27 12:41
bnchsnow this time, when windows crashesMar 27 12:41
bnchsyou're gonna lose control of the car and dieMar 27 12:41
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mateyif you try to park, it will demand you drive around in circles for 45 minutes while it installs updatesMar 27 12:47
bnchsno worseMar 27 12:49
bnchswhen it finds an update, it will give you about 10 minutesMar 27 12:49
bnchsbefore it dies on the roadMar 27 12:49
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DaemonFCWindows 10 car. S Mode. Microsoft Gas Station only. 30% surcharge. "For safety!"Mar 27 13:05
DaemonFCI don't know how people are defending app stores that take 30% and leave you with no other choice.Mar 27 13:06
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mateyappathyMar 27 13:06
DaemonFCIf they bought a car that made you use Shell gas stations and pay a 30% fee because you couldn't go to the Marathon gas station across the street becuase your car was designed not to run on it, would they accept this too?Mar 27 13:06
MinceRworship of moneyMar 27 13:06
MinceRcorporation has tons of money and therefore it is sacredMar 27 13:07
MinceRand can do no wrongMar 27 13:07
mateyIf they bought a car that made you use Shell gas stations and pay a 30% fee because you couldn't go to the Marathon gas station across the street becuase your car was designed not to run on it, would they accept this too? <- in the eu, probablyMar 27 13:07
DaemonFCMinceR, A gas station up in Wisconsin was sued by other gas stations.Mar 27 13:07
DaemonFCThey are complaining that the station isn't charging as much as they are for gas, and demand $80,000 each in compensation.Mar 27 13:08
mateywowMar 27 13:08
DaemonFCThe station being sued is a Woodman's grocery store with a gas station in the parking lot.Mar 27 13:08
DaemonFCThe complaint reads that by charging people 30 cents less per gallon, nobody is going to the BP or Shell stations in the area because they know to go to Woodman's instead.Mar 27 13:09
mateyobviously theyve never heard of bjsMar 27 13:09
matey(its a chain of stores. i didnt name them)Mar 27 13:09
matey(yes thats the name of the chain)Mar 27 13:10
DaemonFCYou can't make this shit up. They are using a state "unfair pricing" law arguing that people should be forced to pay more for gasoline.Mar 27 13:10
DaemonFCThe intent of the law appears to be that consumers can sue if they feel they're being gouged.Mar 27 13:10
mateyapparently it was poorly writttenMar 27 13:11
DaemonFCMaybe a consumer group should sue the BP and Shell stations complaining that they're being gouged and will be damaged if those stations succeed in their lawsuit against Woodman's, and therefore they are each owed free gasoline from BP and Shell as compensation.Mar 27 13:11
DaemonFC"We are suing you because we are being harmed by your lawsuit against them."Mar 27 13:11
DaemonFCWalmart has some really sad lemons.Mar 27 13:13
DaemonFCI got some from Jewel that are twice as big and seedless for just 35 cents more per pound.Mar 27 13:13
kingoffranceflexnet was the first hawaii ISP, and then at least had dial up over continental us at least.  $9.95, no tech support.  pass the savings on to you .  anyhow, founder said he had similar accusations from the other ISPs at the timeMar 27 13:13
kingoffrance*/month.      worked fine with bsd/linux/etc.Mar 27 13:13
DaemonFCWell, if they really save money by offering no technical support then they're not unfairly pricing the product if it costs less and you don't need the tech support anyway.Mar 27 13:14
DaemonFCMicrosoft charges less for the version that comes without any tech support.Mar 27 13:14
kingoffrancewell i just mean, this probably happens more often, just not in public where people find out about itMar 27 13:15
DaemonFCYes, Microsoft has a tech support hotline. I don't know why.Mar 27 13:15
kingoffranceyou are forcing me to lower my prices!   criminal!Mar 27 13:15
DaemonFCEverything they run you through is all of the fix me wizards that don't work, and then wiping the system and starting over, which also sometimes does not work.Mar 27 13:15
kingoffranceohn D. Rockefeller once professed, "competition is a sin."Mar 27 13:15
DaemonFCIt's a cute idea, fix me wizards all over Windows.Mar 27 13:16
DaemonFCThey could fix the bugs in the network stack, or.....they could just kick the network stack over and start it again. Tada!Mar 27 13:16
kingoffranceits funny how they turned wizard which was probably more dynamic like "ninja" into "robot"Mar 27 13:16
DaemonFCStart the wizard! Which wizard?Mar 27 13:17
DaemonFCThe Grand Imperial Wizard.....Mar 27 13:17
DaemonFCWhoops, wrong wizard.Mar 27 13:17
kingoffrancethe intention i guess was to be "dynamic" but they only have so many "choose your own help desk adventure" pathsMar 27 13:17
kingoffrancethe times i used to use those, tend to just go in circles and once you exhaust all the paths and didnt solve your issue,   "contact your system administrator" or whatever lolMar 27 13:17
kingoffrancei guess that is how tech support works too though. they have to go through script to eliminate all the common things, before you get any real supportMar 27 13:19
kingoffranceit does sort of simulate tech support in that sense lolMar 27 13:19
mateyafter getting drung and playing pin the tail on the donkey, we have determined that the best course of action is to send a reset packet to your modemMar 27 13:19
mateyreally? thats the only answer youve ever givenMar 27 13:20
matey"sure, but its our only excuse to drink at work"Mar 27 13:20
DaemonFCI just used the free ISPs.Mar 27 13:20
kingoffrancejuno?Mar 27 13:20
DaemonFCThere were various ways of crashing the ad banners or getting your hashed login credentials and using regular Dial Up Networking.Mar 27 13:20
DaemonFCYeah, Juno was one of them.Mar 27 13:20
DaemonFCWhen they all started going under, they spent a couple years limiting you to like 20-30 hours a month.Mar 27 13:21
DaemonFCSo I signed up for all of them and then I had like 150 hours each month.Mar 27 13:21
mateylolMar 27 13:21
DaemonFCWhen one gave me the boot, I'd just dial into another account.Mar 27 13:21
DaemonFCWell, they were meant to be ad supported, but that meant Windows program.Mar 27 13:22
DaemonFCSo I'd use a program called Dialguard to intercept the phone call and to catch the hashed username and password in Windows, then I knew what to type in to get it working in Mandrake Linux and on my Sega Dreamcast.Mar 27 13:23
DaemonFCThen I could just sit there and play Quake III or something online.Mar 27 13:23
DaemonFCMicrosoft only recently shut down the Internet Games server for Windows Me. For the Internet Checkers and stuff.Mar 27 13:24
DaemonFCI don't know why they even had those.Mar 27 13:24
DaemonFCThey limited the things you could tell the other player to stuff like "Nice move!" because they didn't want it to turn into stories like "49 year old man proposes indecent relationship with child over Microsoft Internet Checkers" so you couldn't even chat with your opponent.Mar 27 13:26
DaemonFCAnd it just connected you to someone randomly, so you didn't know who you were playing against and you couldn't talk to them.Mar 27 13:26
kingoffranceyeah i always found that strangeMar 27 13:28
kingoffrancestuff like kali back in the day, you'd meet strangers first and chat and decide who to play withMar 27 13:28
kingoffrancethis was like speed dating random people in the phone book lolMar 27 13:29
kingoffrancefor those games i guess it didnt matter, but still weirdMar 27 13:29
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DaemonFCDating is hell. I was reading about a guy who went out on dates with women at expensive restaurants and then slipped out and left them with the bill.Mar 27 13:37
DaemonFCThey finally caught him and charged him with 8 felony counts of theft by deception.Mar 27 13:37
DaemonFCOne of them was interviewed and said he just kept eating and eating. Especially the crab legs.Mar 27 13:37
DaemonFCAnd she was shocked that such a small guy could put away so much food.Mar 27 13:38
DaemonFCMinceR, I like Red Dwarf. Especially Arnold Rimmer. They were talking about people who had made the ultimate sacrifice.Mar 27 13:40
DaemonFCAnd Rimmer says, "Ah yes, Captain Oates....Well, they obviously forged his journal. They're not going to say January 5th, ate the last bits of Captain Oates dabbed in gravy with the last packet of instant mashed potatoes.".Mar 27 13:41
MinceR:>Mar 27 13:42
MinceRone would hope they'd eat all the packets of instant mashed potatoes _before_ they resort to cannibalismMar 27 13:43
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bnchsDaemonFC: lolMar 27 13:43
bnchsthat guy doesn't love womenMar 27 13:44
bnchshe just uses women to get what he really loves, foodMar 27 13:44
DaemonFC<MinceR> one would hope they'd eat all the packets of instant mashed potatoes _before_ they resort to cannibalismMar 27 13:45
DaemonFCWell, it's deliberate. It tells you how much of a misanthrope Rimmer really is.Mar 27 13:46
bnchsanyway thats basedMar 27 13:46
DaemonFCThey resorted to eating Captain Oates along with all the rest of the food to make the food last longer.Mar 27 13:46
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DaemonFCBecause then Oates wouldn't get any, and they could eat him as well.Mar 27 13:46
techrights-newsTop 10 Linux Distributions for Programmers in 2022 [Featured] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163045Mar 27 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 Linux Distributions for Programmers in 2022 [Featured] | Tux MachinesMar 27 13:48
techrights-newsUbuntu-Based Feren OS 2022.03 Released with KDE Plasma 5.24 LTS, Various Improvements • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163046Mar 27 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu-Based Feren OS 2022.03 Released with KDE Plasma 5.24 LTS, Various Improvements | Tux MachinesMar 27 13:48
MinceR:>Mar 27 13:49
bnchslinux distributions for programmersMar 27 13:50
bnchswhat does this meanMar 27 13:51
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schestowitz-TRit makes senseMar 27 13:54
schestowitz-TRbut maybe can be spun with wordsMar 27 13:54
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schestowitz-TRbecause the CLI is, in essence, a programming toolMar 27 13:54
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schestowitz-TRat the very least in batchingMar 27 13:55
schestowitz-TRlike .BAT filesMar 27 13:55
schestowitz-TRbut sure, it can do moreMar 27 13:55
schestowitz-TRbash, ksh etcMar 27 13:55
mateylolMar 27 13:55
schestowitz-TRsome distros go out of their wayo to hide itMar 27 13:55
schestowitz-TRso those also exclude some useful toolsMar 27 13:55
schestowitz-TRyou might be able to add themMar 27 13:56
schestowitz-TRif they are in the reposMar 27 13:56
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032211Mar 27 13:56
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schestowitz-TRotherwise it's trickyMar 27 13:56
schestowitz-TRso as a programmer you might have precompiled IDEsMar 27 13:56
schestowitz-TRa good distro for programmers makes it easy to access and use dev toolsMar 27 13:56
schestowitz-TRor, like in gentoo, customise your experienceMar 27 13:56
schestowitz-TRlike change (e.g. remove) some bits before the OS gets compiledMar 27 13:57
bnchsschestowitz-TR, how would you deal with a """smart""" tvMar 27 13:57
schestowitz-TRI'm too smart to buy oneMar 27 13:57
MinceRdeprive it of an Internet connection :>Mar 27 13:57
schestowitz-TRI've not had a TV in more than 20 years ;-)Mar 27 13:57
bnchsschestowitz-TR, it's a "smart" tv for dumb peopleMar 27 13:58
bnchsjust like dumb tv for smart peopleMar 27 13:58
schestowitz-TRMinceR: if you trust it not toMar 27 13:58
schestowitz-TRwe have open wifi connectionMar 27 13:58
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MinceRwe don'tMar 27 14:00
bnchsit uses a proprietary OSMar 27 14:00
bnchswith linux kernelMar 27 14:00
MinceReven non-"smart" tv-s doMar 27 14:01
schestowitz-TR[12:02] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.theguardian.com | San Francisco activist behind Aids quilt to leave home after rent doubles to $5,200 | San Francisco | The GuardianMar 27 14:01
MinceRfor example, the monitor tv on my desk runs LinuxMar 27 14:01
MinceRand it's not a "smart" tvMar 27 14:01
schestowitz-TR"sorry, sir, you let an extra 0 slip in there.."Mar 27 14:01
schestowitz-TR(orrrrr.......)Mar 27 14:01
bnchsMinceR: but they don't have as much power than "smart" tvs doMar 27 14:01
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mateynot part of gnu: https://www.gnugk.org/Mar 27 14:02
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schestowitz-TRGNU Greg KorahMar 27 14:02
schestowitz-TRKroahMar 27 14:02
MinceR:>Mar 27 14:03
mateygnuvell?Mar 27 14:03
schestowitz-TRKroah HeartlessMar 27 14:03
mateywikipedia: "GNU Gatekeeper is an open-source project that implements an H.323 Gatekeeper based on the OpenH323 or H323Plus stack."Mar 27 14:03
matey"GNU Gatekeeper is an open-source"Mar 27 14:03
schestowitz-TRwith a DASHMar 27 14:03
schestowitz-TRwhich means NOT compliant with OSFMar 27 14:04
schestowitz-TR*OSDMar 27 14:04
mateyosf = open source foundation?Mar 27 14:04
bnchsschestowitz-TR, you mean patents?Mar 27 14:04
mateyopen software foundation?Mar 27 14:04
schestowitz-TRThere used to be OSAMar 27 14:04
schestowitz-TRAllianceMar 27 14:04
schestowitz-TRiIRC, Microsoft killed itMar 27 14:04
schestowitz-TRby joining itMar 27 14:04
mateyfunny how they do thatMar 27 14:04
schestowitz-TRthe other member got so pissed offMar 27 14:04
schestowitz-TRthat the criminal that bribes official is not "part" of the same thingMar 27 14:05
schestowitz-TRwhy would they pay into it?Mar 27 14:05
schestowitz-TRand it collapsedMar 27 14:05
mateyhttps://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GNU_GatekeeperMar 27 14:05
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schestowitz-TRthat was like 15 years agiMar 27 14:05
schestowitz-TR*agoMar 27 14:05
mateyverified by "ted teah"Mar 27 14:05
schestowitz-TRI think we covered it at the timeMar 27 14:05
bnchsso i dug deeper into the software that the "smart" tv runsMar 27 14:05
mateyJan Willamowius  MaintainerMar 27 14:05
bnchsit's webosMar 27 14:05
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schestowitz-TRpalmos->HP->LGMar 27 14:06
schestowitz-TRSamsung uses Tizen and other stuffMar 27 14:06
bnchsthere's webos open source edition which is not open source nor freeMar 27 14:06
schestowitz-TRit was never 'proper' openMar 27 14:06
schestowitz-TReven Palm Inc. would not release itMar 27 14:06
schestowitz-TRCobalt or whatever they called it around 2004-5Mar 27 14:07
schestowitz-TRthey just said "Linux'Mar 27 14:07
bnchsphone manufactors making their own crappy OSesMar 27 14:07
bnchsto lock in people moreMar 27 14:07
mateythis project is 20 years oldMar 27 14:08
schestowitz-TRnot just phonesMar 27 14:08
schestowitz-TRtablets similarlyMar 27 14:08
schestowitz-TRdesktops/laptops it's a mixMar 27 14:08
bnchsyesMar 27 14:08
mateyhttps://www.gnugk.org/download/OSTS2004.pdf <- 2004Mar 27 14:08
bnchsthey bought it from palm and HPMar 27 14:08
schestowitz-TRbecause you can swapMar 27 14:08
schestowitz-TRat one point HP made its own distroMar 27 14:09
bnchsthey did this to limit the amount of customizability the user can doMar 27 14:09
schestowitz-TRand it seemed like the criminal killed it (MicrosofT)Mar 27 14:09
schestowitz-TRlots of mergers and splits in mobile linuxMar 27 14:09
bnchsin android-based, the source code of android was freeMar 27 14:09
bnchsand widely-availableMar 27 14:09
bnchswith many custom ROMsMar 27 14:09
schestowitz-TRtizen, limo, moblin (intel)...Mar 27 14:10
bnchsyou could port a custom ROM to a device provided you know it's technical detailsMar 27 14:10
schestowitz-TROrange had its own too around LinuxWorld 2005Mar 27 14:10
bnchsso they tried to fight thisMar 27 14:10
bnchsthey made their own OS with rarely any custom ROMsMar 27 14:10
schestowitz-TRNokia made about 3 Linux-based OSesMar 27 14:10
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft killed them alMar 27 14:10
schestowitz-TRthe criminals are good at killing thingsMar 27 14:10
schestowitz-TRnot making thingsMar 27 14:10
schestowitz-TRjolla is still aroundMar 27 14:11
bnchsthe point isMar 27 14:11
schestowitz-TRthey now call it sailfishOSMar 27 14:11
bnchswhy would LG not use androidMar 27 14:11
schestowitz-TRand other namesMar 27 14:11
bnchsand even thenMar 27 14:11
bnchswhy would they keep the source code closedMar 27 14:11
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bnchswhich brings me to my theory, they did this to get away from androidMar 27 14:12
bnchswhich had many custom ROMsMar 27 14:12
bnchsand all of them easily portableMar 27 14:12
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schestowitz-TRbnchs: for android there was ohaMar 27 14:15
schestowitz-TRopen handset allianceMar 27 14:15
schestowitz-TRaround 2008 or 07Mar 27 14:15
schestowitz-TRthat was gulag's way of getting the forkers and branchers in the same boatMar 27 14:15
schestowitz-TRinstead of them taking aosp and then doing their own thingMar 27 14:15
schestowitz-TRto cause 'fragmentation'Mar 27 14:16
bnchseven then, in the webos hacking/cracking communityMar 27 14:16
bnchsthey only managed to modify the kernelMar 27 14:16
bnchsthey couldn't modify more than that before it was proprietaryMar 27 14:16
bnchsand maybe inject some "apps"Mar 27 14:16
schestowitz-TRapp yoursMar 27 14:17
bnchsthey made their own OSes to gain back control of the usersMar 27 14:18
schestowitz-TRwow, this 3-hour video will take 10 hours to encode on 4 coresMar 27 14:18
bnchsand only gave them a small piece of the source codeMar 27 14:18
bnchsand maybe the kernel (because GPL and shit)Mar 27 14:18
schestowitz-TRmaybe I should split the video, process on numerous machines with ffmpeg, than merge the resultant filesMar 27 14:18
schestowitz-TRbut it would be a lot of work passing around the filesMar 27 14:18
schestowitz(cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D184.jpgMar 27 14:25
mateygithub.com/AdaCore/gnat-llvmMar 27 14:25
mateyThis is an Ada compiler based on LLVM, connecting the GNAT front-end to the LLVM code generator to generate LLVM bitcode for Ada and to open the LLVM ecosystem to Ada. Note that we are not planning on replacing any existing GNAT port that's based on GCC: this project is meant to provide additional, not replacement, GNAT ports.Mar 27 14:25
matey :)Mar 27 14:25
bnchsgithubMar 27 14:27
MinceR:3Mar 27 14:27
bnchsada > rustMar 27 14:27
mateyofficially its fine that its developed on github because copyright is assigned to the fsfMar 27 14:28
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mateyrms: Do Not Use Github (for gnu)Mar 27 14:29
bnchsmatey: developed on github on behalf of fsf?Mar 27 14:29
mateyadacore: hold my beerMar 27 14:29
bnchsor is it just a mirrorMar 27 14:29
mateyalso adacore: its fine, we assigned copyrightMar 27 14:29
mateyits not just a mirrorMar 27 14:29
mateyi dont care about (actual) mirrorsMar 27 14:29
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mateythis isnt new, ive known about this for more than a year. the only new part is gnat-llvm, which i thought was slightly amusingMar 27 14:30
mateybut its not a replacement, its just a pornMar 27 14:30
mateyportMar 27 14:30
mateymaybe unix pornMar 27 14:30
bnchsit's just pornMar 27 14:30
schestowitz-TRmirrors are not a huge dealMar 27 14:31
mateymuscle memory and alexy are similarly treacherousMar 27 14:31
schestowitz-TRjust do not accept "PRs"Mar 27 14:31
mateyits not a mirrorMar 27 14:31
schestowitz-TRor allow "Issues"Mar 27 14:31
schestowitz-TRit's the same with Twitter as a copy of diaspora postsMar 27 14:31
mateythats the criteria i go by basicallyMar 27 14:31
schestowitz-TRthe problem is, you still receive replies in TwitterMar 27 14:31
mateyall you have to do with prs is 1. say please dont send prs in the readme.mdMar 27 14:32
matey2. close prs with "please do not send prs"Mar 27 14:32
mateyif at that point you still get spammed with prs somehow, dont respondMar 27 14:32
mateythen its a strict mirrorMar 27 14:32
mateymany so-called mirrors are acting like reposMar 27 14:33
mateysome strict mirrors are actually strict, thats goodMar 27 14:33
bnchsschestowitz-TR, lol that's what they doMar 27 14:33
mateyeven if the mirror doesnt follow a strick policy, but it looks abandoned, thats alrightMar 27 14:33
bnchsthey can't disable PRsMar 27 14:33
bnchsso they simply ignore PRsMar 27 14:33
mateythey dont ahve to disable prsMar 27 14:33
bnchsor redirect them to the mailing listMar 27 14:33
mateyi stop counting it as a mirror if they start using prsMar 27 14:34
mateybut if they dont respond (or better, close and redirect) thats not so badMar 27 14:34
mateythe thing is, you cant stop people from mirroring free softwareMar 27 14:35
mateyso it also matters who put it thereMar 27 14:35
mateytheres no way to script this stuff-- its detective workMar 27 14:35
mateyeven machine learning wouldnt be terribly useful for thisMar 27 14:35
mateyof course you could have scripts pick up some of the data for you, but they couldnt evaluate it anywayMar 27 14:37
mateyhttps://www.gnu.org/software/pth/ <- not github based, author is active on github (this year) 227 projectsMar 27 14:38
mateyso the project is okay, but the developer still thinks github isnt a problemMar 27 14:39
mateywe are going to find out i think that MOST gnu devs dont consider github a problemMar 27 14:39
mateywhich says a lot about gnu imoMar 27 14:39
mateyor the state of free softwareMar 27 14:39
mateyhistorically, it says nothing about gnu. this applies to the state of it todayMar 27 14:40
kingoffranceor the state of "free hosting"Mar 27 14:40
mateyhistorically gnu is maybe the most important operating system created (unix itself being major competition for this title)Mar 27 14:40
matey<kingoffrance> or the state of "free hosting" <- thats letting them off easyMar 27 14:40
bnchsmatey: oh my gawd the dev has a github??Mar 27 14:41
mateythere have been usable alternatives to github since before the purchaseMar 27 14:41
bnchsholy shit this is the state of GNUMar 27 14:41
bnchsgnu is like dyingMar 27 14:41
mateystraw man.Mar 27 14:41
bnchseven though the source code is primarily hosted in GNUMar 27 14:41
bnchsmatey: yeah i knowMar 27 14:41
mateywhat im saying is, most gnu devs probably dont think its a problem that microsoft has mostly taken over free softwareMar 27 14:41
mateybecause they keep using it.Mar 27 14:42
kingoffrance"there have been usable alternatives"  sure sure sure but 1) like what  2) why are devs avoiding them  Mar 27 14:42
kingoffrancewhat are the justifications?  not saying tehy are good or bad "reasons"Mar 27 14:42
mateykingoffrance when microsoft bought github, 200,000 people left Mar 27 14:42
mateysourceforge, notabugMar 27 14:42
mateysavannah is based on sourceforge (an old free version of it)Mar 27 14:43
bnchsi would sayMar 27 14:43
bnchssourceforge hosts CVS aswellMar 27 14:43
mateyalso framagit (now closed)Mar 27 14:43
kingoffrancehmm, didnt know that about savannahMar 27 14:43
mateymany people left for gitlabMar 27 14:43
mateyand now there is sr.htMar 27 14:43
mateyjust to add to viable optionsMar 27 14:43
mateyfor selt hosting there is also giteaMar 27 14:43
mateyselfMar 27 14:44
mateyand these are just the least stupid examples (imo)Mar 27 14:44
mateyfor stupid examples (but not as stupid as trusting microsoft) there are still moreMar 27 14:44
kingoffranceis it ironic wasnt git written because bitkeeper wasnt quite "free" ...and now people jump right into githubMar 27 14:44
mateyyou know savannah isnt only for gnu? its also for nongnu.orgMar 27 14:44
kingoffrances/ironic/repeat of history/Mar 27 14:45
mateyif by ironic you mean part of a multi-billion dollar strategy to take over free software, then yesMar 27 14:45
bnchsyou need to give money to sourcehutMar 27 14:45
bnchsto put your project thereMar 27 14:45
bnchswhich i understandMar 27 14:45
mateyi didnt know sr.ht was paidMar 27 14:45
mateyat least they have a business modelMar 27 14:45
kingoffrancewell i mean people should have learned the first timeMar 27 14:45
mateynon-profit hosting works tooMar 27 14:47
mateyat least in theoryMar 27 14:47
mateyin practice its holding up better than the organisations themselvesMar 27 14:47
mateyas long as you dont need them to do guidance or advocacyMar 27 14:47
mateyor fundraisingMar 27 14:47
mateya lot of projects are very small and their needs are modestMar 27 14:49
mateygithub is honestly overkill for thoseMar 27 14:49
mateybut when people look to leave they want-- basically microsoft word to do a shopping listMar 27 14:50
schestowitz-TR[14:33] <matey> they dont ahve to disable prsMar 27 14:50
schestowitz-TRit's vendor lockinMar 27 14:50
mateywhat i meant wasMar 27 14:50
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft won't let them turn it offMar 27 14:50
mateyif they are unable to disable prs Mar 27 14:50
schestowitz-TRbut such mirrors wont' save the github near-monopolyMar 27 14:50
mateythen all they have to do is politely refuse them and tell people to use theMar 27 14:50
mateythere are existing practices for running a strict mirrorMar 27 14:50
mateythey workMar 27 14:50
schestowitz-TRjust like twitter cannot, by letting people make "mirrors" thereMar 27 14:50
schestowitz-TRtwitter is dyingMar 27 14:50
mateypeople that care keep the mirror strictMar 27 14:51
schestowitz-TRthey hide this by funneling remainig traffics to celebs and politicians Mar 27 14:51
schestowitz-TR*remaining*Mar 27 14:51
mateyat any rate, i dont panic about strict mirrorsMar 27 14:51
schestowitz-TRto fake "Engagement" levels, in essence by funnelingMar 27 14:51
mateybut mirrors that turn into secondary repos run the risk of moving to github as the primary repoMar 27 14:51
mateyby not standing up to the lock-inMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRtrueMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRTorvalds isn't tolerating itMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRdeep inside he knows github is an attack on gitMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRbut his boss is COO of GitHunbMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRwhich is funnyMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRCOOMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRthink about itMar 27 14:52
mateylinux doesnt have to be inside microsoft-- microsoft is inside linuxMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRthat's her job at LFMar 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRshe is part of the COOMar 27 14:52
matey(theres peanut butter in my chocolate)Mar 27 14:53
mateylf is also an attack on gitMar 27 14:53
mateysfc is an attack on gitMar 27 14:53
kingoffrancewell, just put up goatse  when someone sends a PR  <j/k>Mar 27 14:53
mateythe fact that prs exist isnt the problemMar 27 14:53
schestowitz-TRsfc is hardly even importantMar 27 14:53
kingoffrancetheyll get the message quickMar 27 14:53
mateythe problem is that while some projects discourage them, most dont careMar 27 14:54
mateysfc is hardly even important <- prove itMar 27 14:54
schestowitz-TRlet's work in reverseMar 27 14:54
schestowitz-TRprove they ARE importanttMar 27 14:54
schestowitz-TRthey failed to oust RMSMar 27 14:54
mateydisputedMar 27 14:54
schestowitz-TRand they  through many resources and even their reputation into the bonfireMar 27 14:55
matey and even their reputation into the bonfire <- demonstrably falseMar 27 14:55
schestowitz-TRgnome foundationMar 27 14:55
schestowitz-TRosiMar 27 14:55
schestowitz-TRlook what happenedMar 27 14:55
mateyif their reputation is in the toilet, why do so many high-profile projects (including git) still do business with themMar 27 14:55
schestowitz-TRosi head vanishedMar 27 14:55
mateywhich osi head? Mar 27 14:55
schestowitz-TRgnome: bully de blanc and her boss goneMar 27 14:56
schestowitz-TRdeb came from sfcMar 27 14:56
schestowitz-TRwhere she had raised ms moneyMar 27 14:56
schestowitz-TRalso oin while microsoft bought shares in itMar 27 14:56
mateydeb came from fsf, where she was in charge of membership for agesMar 27 14:56
schestowitz-TRafter fsfMar 27 14:56
mateythen she defected to sfc and osiMar 27 14:56
schestowitz-TRand now nothingMar 27 14:56
mateyor perhaps sfc is the new osiMar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRthere are two sideMar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRside aMar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRside bMar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRif you leave side a to bMar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRand then discredited in bMar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRyou are doneMar 27 14:57
mateyosi = {lf, sfc, clearlydefined}Mar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRbully and others are barely employableMar 27 14:57
mateythats where they wentMar 27 14:57
schestowitz-TRthey were thrown under the busMar 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRor made to fall on the swordMar 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRand they took a bad positionMar 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRlike chief exec of osiMar 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRhe will be disposableMar 27 14:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▆▅▆▅▆▄▅▄▇▃▅▅▅▅▅▅▆▅▇▆▇▅▆▇▃▅▆▅▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 30.81 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▁▂██▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▄▂▂▁▁▁▂▃▁▁▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 43.25▕ swarm size (avg): 291.56  ⟲Mar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRlike people who went to work for andrew lee in freenodeMar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRmaybe got a salary or twoMar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRand that was itMar 27 14:59
mateyyou say the same about ibm and githubMar 27 14:59
mateyits all just going to magically disappearMar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRnow they're labeled as the people who took freenode from hero to zeroMar 27 14:59
mateytwitter and fb tooMar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRit's complicatedMar 27 14:59
mateyits ridiculousMar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRthe us government bails them outMar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRbecause they're strategically beneficial to empireMar 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRso they are becoming a burden on taxpayersMar 27 15:00
schestowitz-TRlike "too biug to fail" banksMar 27 15:00
schestowitz-TRhow does goldman sachs help the us taxpayer?Mar 27 15:00
mateyyou realise the one thing that can save them is downplaying the threats they pose, yes?Mar 27 15:00
mateyhistorically, thats what saves such thingsMar 27 15:01
mateyor makes them last longerMar 27 15:01
kingoffrancethats why theres "big tech"Mar 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRgiafam?Mar 27 15:01
kingoffrance^Mar 27 15:01
matey<kingoffrance> thats why theres "big tech" <- a term roy insists helps microsoftMar 27 15:01
kingoffrancegets all the heat off ms + gov.Mar 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRmatey: noMar 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRI show leaksMar 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRit's a term Microsoft lobbyists promotedMar 27 15:02
schestowitz-TRwhile Microsoft did lots of crimesMar 27 15:02
kingoffrancei dont know, but i tend to believe schestowitz-TR because it only showed up recently IMOMar 27 15:02
kingoffranceall the "free market" types LOVED ms through the 90sMar 27 15:02
kingoffrancecapital success storyMar 27 15:02
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft for exposedMar 27 15:02
kingoffranceevil DOJ is just jealous yoMar 27 15:02
kingoffrancehaters hate successMar 27 15:02
schestowitz-TRand then they changed the news cycleMar 27 15:02
schestowitz-TRby faking a "leak" of Vista 11Mar 27 15:02
schestowitz-TRpreviously unheard ofMar 27 15:02
kingoffranceand then out of nowhere...one day came "big tech" narrativeMar 27 15:02
mateybig tech can be used against microsoft Mar 27 15:03
mateyjust say theyre part of itMar 27 15:03
schestowitz-TRand it was just Vista 10 with some UI tweaksMar 27 15:03
kingoffranceam i to believe all these "business people" suddenly 180ed? dont buy it.Mar 27 15:03
mateyimoMar 27 15:03
kingoffrancei have no proof, but i tend to believe schestowitz-TR on "big tech"Mar 27 15:03
mateyo i believe his story about the lobbyistsMar 27 15:03
kingoffrance*capitalistMar 27 15:03
mateybut the big tech narrative is one that people can get behind, if it can be shown that microsoft is part of itMar 27 15:04
schestowitz-TRi'll get you the linksMar 27 15:04
mateyjust say microsoft IS big techMar 27 15:04
mateyi dont need the links, ive seen them.Mar 27 15:04
mateyim not disputing the lobbyingMar 27 15:04
schestowitzgetting the news linksMar 27 15:04
mateygafa was specificMar 27 15:04
mateyit excluded microsoftMar 27 15:05
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22031953Mar 27 15:05
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mateyso gafam pins m microsoft back onto microsofts own diversionMar 27 15:05
mateyits silly to think the same cant be done with big tech-- its exactly the same trickMar 27 15:05
schestowitzthe videos I did about this include http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ and  http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/Mar 27 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | TechrightsMar 27 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsoft’s Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | TechrightsMar 27 15:05
mateyanyway, github helps microsoft more than the words "big tech" doMar 27 15:06
kingoffrancei would say similar trick about "twitter" being "private" ...with their manual of recommendations for gov usageMar 27 15:06
kingoffranceput on your columbo hat mateyMar 27 15:06
mateyand that was lobbied for for literally yearsMar 27 15:06
schestowitzhttps://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/microsoft-house-judiciary-committee-thomas-massie/Mar 27 15:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dailycaller.com | EXCLUSIVE: Whistleblower Document Appears To Show Microsoft Helped Write Big Tech Bills | The Daily CallerMar 27 15:06
schestowitzhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-23/microsoft-may-duck-house-antitrust-push-as-republicans-cry-foulMar 27 15:06
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*kingoffrance <slap> i'm private! <slap> 'im public! Mar 27 15:06
mateyi think the problem kingoffrance is youre trying to convince me of something i already seeMar 27 15:07
mateymicrosoft is big techMar 27 15:08
mateyit can be used against them just as much as "gafam" isMar 27 15:08
mateyoriginally gafaMar 27 15:08
kingoffranceid say the same with cryptocoin, but may be exceptionsMar 27 15:08
mateythe thing is, theres a lot of "awareness" (read: exposure) to "big tech" Mar 27 15:09
mateybeacuse of the lobbyingMar 27 15:09
mateythat could be hijacked and turned directly against microsoftMar 27 15:09
schestowitz-TRfaang is even worse a termMar 27 15:09
schestowitz-TRif you consider what firms are listed and whyMar 27 15:10
schestowitz-TRit's worse than microsoft whataboutismMar 27 15:10
matey/me has never come across faang except hereMar 27 15:10
mateyi think it was a prototype for gafaMar 27 15:10
schestowitz-TRgafam is me and assangeMar 27 15:10
schestowitz-TRwe came up with it in twitterMar 27 15:10
mateytheres no reason big tech couldnt be used the same wayMar 27 15:10
mateymicrosoft IS big techMar 27 15:11
mateygates is still one of the 10 richest people on earthMar 27 15:11
mateyso is ballmerMar 27 15:11
mateynot sure whats keeping nadellaMar 27 15:11
schestowitz-TRa lot of it is grossly overvalued stockMar 27 15:12
schestowitz-TRbasically bubbleMar 27 15:12
schestowitz-TRdefrauding shareholdersMar 27 15:12
schestowitz-TRthe inside traders can win thisMar 27 15:12
schestowitz-TRat the expense of middle class saversMar 27 15:12
kingoffrancei dont disagree matey about turning it back on them, just think its better if people ignore all the catch phrasesMar 27 15:16
kingoffrancein the long runMar 27 15:16
*kingoffrance whispers marketing people HATE this secretMar 27 15:17
*kingoffrance whispers THEY dont want you to knowMar 27 15:18
kingoffranceits like the "everything is a file"   catch phrases lead to straw men attacksMar 27 15:19
kingoffrancehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law  someone should make that into an opera or somethingMar 27 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Brandolini's law - WikipediaMar 27 15:20
kingoffrancebrandolini brandolini   Mar 27 15:20
schestowitz-TRwindows registry is also a fileMar 27 15:21
schestowitz-TRjust not a very good fileMar 27 15:21
schestowitz-TRfragile, flakyMar 27 15:22
kingoffranceyeah, exactly!Mar 27 15:22
schestowitz-TRmaybe many files for the same thingMar 27 15:22
schestowitz-TRiirc, over  a decade ago gnome emulated the same broken designMar 27 15:22
bnchswindows registry is a file?Mar 27 15:24
bnchsso basically, whats wrong with /etcMar 27 15:25
mateyjust think its better if people ignore all the catch phrases <- it is better. but we live in a world where most people dontMar 27 15:31
mateythe question imo is what to do with thatMar 27 15:31
matey"big tech" "actually that just helps microsoft" <- one approach, validMar 27 15:32
matey"big tech" "including microsoft, yes" <- another approachMar 27 15:32
mateyand basically what gafam didMar 27 15:32
mateybecause gafa was "big tech" beta versionMar 27 15:32
schestowitz-TR(backing up breaking machine)Mar 27 15:32
schestowitz-TR(ssd)Mar 27 15:32
mateyiirc, over  a decade ago gnome emulated the same broken design <- gconfMar 27 15:33
schestowitz-TRLMDE 5 and KDE Neon are nice, gnu/linux has gotten super-easy to install and is VERY nice out of the boxMar 27 15:33
mateyen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gconf-editorMar 27 15:33
mateyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Gconf-editor is a discontinued utility for the GNOME desktop environment used to maintain the old and now discontinued GNOME registry gconfMar 27 15:33
schestowitz-TRdevuan and debian text-based installers are only for pro usersMar 27 15:33
kingoffranceyou look in the jargon file, you see ibm and the 7 dwarves.  then ibm and the bunch. and "dinosaur mating"  .   that explains "dino babies" -- trying to desparately spin that they are not a dinosaur.Mar 27 15:34
schestowitz-TRmy LAN over wifi gives me about 1gbytes/minsMar 27 15:34
mateyGConf was replaced by GSettings mechanism (provided by GLib) which uses dconf as backend by default if it's available but can use keyfile backend or GConf backend (legacy only); memory backend (RAM only) and null backendMar 27 15:34
kingoffrancepoint:  "big tech' was alway around, nothing new           2)  "big tech' will hijack phrases for their own benefitMar 27 15:34
schestowitz-TRbig oil, big banksMar 27 15:34
schestowitz-TRbanks= bailouitMar 27 15:34
matey"big tech' will hijack phrases for their own benefit <- even gnu and free softwareMar 27 15:34
schestowitz-TRoil-subsidyMar 27 15:34
schestowitz-TRwhat next?Mar 27 15:34
kingoffranceyou said it best matey : without cause and effect all meaning is lostMar 27 15:34
schestowitz-TRtaxpayers-funded and bailed out ICBM and MSFT?Mar 27 15:35
kingoffranceits kind of pathetic, why does ibm think the jargon file is a threat lolMar 27 15:35
schestowitz-TRwhile the execs cash in big?Mar 27 15:35
schestowitz-TRballmer, gates, blankfien...Mar 27 15:35
schestowitz-TR*feinMar 27 15:35
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kingoffranceits like accusations about putin living in 1900 or whateverMar 27 15:35
kingoffrancepart of this too i think is appearance of "progress" or "progressivism"  has to always be maintaned, doubly so for steps backwardsMar 27 15:36
kingoffrancei wouldnt call it "bias" i would call it marketing spinMar 27 15:36
mateywhere the gconf (gnome registry) gsettings moved to: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.htmlMar 27 15:37
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matey<kingoffrance> its kind of pathetic, why does ibm think the jargon file is a threat lol <- because people thinking for themselves is a threat to marketing (and vice versa)Mar 27 15:37
kingoffranceemphasis on "apperance"Mar 27 15:37
kingoffrance*appearanceMar 27 15:37
kingoffrancetrump said the same in not so many words. he was injecting new life into a dead party in his mindMar 27 15:38
mateybig surprise, mr systemd is on the board of the gnome registry XDG Base Directory SpecificationMar 27 15:38
kingoffrance(not going there, just saying it transcends "wings")Mar 27 15:38
kingoffrance(or: it can be pulled off with a "conservative" facade as well)Mar 27 15:38
mateyyou can put a face on anything-- look at carsMar 27 15:39
mateyo ___ oMar 27 15:39
kingoffranceyeah, that's a good phraseMar 27 15:39
kingoffrancerussian dolls lolMar 27 15:39
mateyone of then signed the anti stallman letter https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.htmlMar 27 15:40
mateygood luck guessing which Mar 27 15:40
matey(nope)Mar 27 15:40
kingoffrance"so basically, whats wrong with /etc"  nothing, just if the original meaning is lost (plaintext, simplicity, pipelines, versus custom binary formats with specialized tools) then it becomes a mess.   i do think it breaks at some point, like any abstraction, i.e. plaintext configuration files eventually become their own specialized formats needing special tools.    but then IMO that shows it is not the "everything is a file" or not mentality that iMar 27 15:44
kingoffrances to blameMar 27 15:44
kingoffranceproblem is post-utf "there is no plaintext"Mar 27 15:44
kingoffranceso it is confusion of tongues nowMar 27 15:44
kingoffranceor people mixing metaphors anywayMar 27 15:45
mateytheres a fallacy whenever you do thisMar 27 15:47
kingoffranceyou step in the stream, but the stream has moved onMar 27 15:47
mateylanguage has always mutated-- you seem to base a lot of arguments on the fact that there was an "established" meaning and now its "confused"Mar 27 15:47
mateybut the established meaning of yesterday was the confused meaning of the age before itMar 27 15:48
kingoffrancesure.  Mar 27 15:48
kingoffrancei dont deny thatMar 27 15:48
mateythat doesnt mean it cant get worse--Mar 27 15:48
mateybut it was never perfect to begin withMar 27 15:48
kingoffrance^Mar 27 15:48
kingoffranceso there both always was something wrong with "everything is a file" and something not wrong with itMar 27 15:49
mateygrantedMar 27 15:49
matey"everything is a file" was either hype, or a nice idea that was abandoned for practical (HOPEFULLY practical) reasonsMar 27 15:50
kingoffranceultimately it is going to be that permitted discoursse window, daemon knows what it is called, i forgetMar 27 15:50
mateyat best it is a tendencyMar 27 15:50
mateymaybe a "style" or even an "approach" but certainly not a lawMar 27 15:50
mateyif we treat styles as law, who do we have to blame but ourselvesMar 27 15:51
kingoffrancewell it is a moot point, pipelines are long deadMar 27 15:51
mateyyoure kiddingMar 27 15:51
kingoffranceperl/python/ all the scripting languages went another directionMar 27 15:51
mateytheyre used dailyMar 27 15:51
mateynopeMar 27 15:51
kingoffranceperl and python are pipelines?Mar 27 15:51
kingoffrancedo one thing do it well?Mar 27 15:52
kingoffranceruby?Mar 27 15:52
mateyoh ok Mar 27 15:52
mateyi see what you meanMar 27 15:52
mateywhen you said pipelinesMar 27 15:52
mateyi assumed | you meant | pipelinesMar 27 15:52
mateyyou mean unix philosophyMar 27 15:53
kingoffranceone secMar 27 15:53
mateytake your timeMar 27 15:53
kingoffrancehttps://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdfMar 27 15:54
mateyi already know that url, that guy is a fucking idiotMar 27 15:54
kingoffrancehas nothign to do with urlMar 27 15:54
mateyits the pdf?Mar 27 15:55
kingoffrancereferences are 1984 is the latestMar 27 15:55
mateyokMar 27 15:55
mateyoh, pike and kernighanMar 27 15:56
mateyi believe pike (moved to google) was the one who pushed for the pipe, back when it was >Mar 27 15:56
mateybut there was another, mcsomethingMar 27 15:57
mateymaybe its in the pdfMar 27 15:57
kingoffrancelet me mention how many package managers tehre areMar 27 15:57
kingoffranceand draw a parallel with 5 volume controls lolMar 27 15:57
kingoffrancefor each of those additional languagesMar 27 15:57
mateyso all theyre saying is cat got out of handMar 27 15:58
kingoffrance:)  yes, but that was 1980s already out of hand Mar 27 15:58
kingoffrancenot sure of exact date of that paperMar 27 15:58
kingoffranceit was already fading Mar 27 15:58
mateylet me make a parallel to refute this.Mar 27 15:59
mateyits a historical oneMar 27 15:59
mateyyou might even like itMar 27 15:59
kingoffrancewhy does each language need a package manager? its not for unix philosophy, its becaues tehy watn to run on other OSes besides "unix"Mar 27 15:59
mateyrightMar 27 15:59
psydruid> big tech can be used against microsoftMar 27 15:59
psydruid> just say theyre part of itMar 27 15:59
psydruidexactly what I think tooMar 27 15:59
MinceRbecause every package manager sucksMar 27 15:59
mateybut thats a loaded question-- no language needs a package manager, even if its cross platformMar 27 16:00
matey/me thinks mincers answer is the right oneMar 27 16:00
mateyso there used to be this theory-- which later suited the sensibilities of nationalist idiotsMar 27 16:01
mateythat aryans came and conquored all the people of the indus valleyMar 27 16:01
mateywith their superior culture and technology and weapons and warfare etc.Mar 27 16:01
mateycame in, wiped out everyoneMar 27 16:01
mateytook over, established the foundations of modern indian civilisationMar 27 16:01
mateybrought hinduism (which didnt exist then, but what is now hinduism, etc)Mar 27 16:02
MinceRnationalist idiots forgot that the aryans were brown people tooMar 27 16:02
mateywell yeah but i mean brown nationalist idiots, not even the nazis (who bought the same story but couldnt afford technicolor because there was a war on)Mar 27 16:02
mateyindia has nationalists too, theyre a bit wrapped up in it at the momentMar 27 16:03
kingoffrancelikewise, lets quote python:   We needed a better way to do system administration than by writing either C programs or Bourne shell scripts, since Amoeba had its own system call interface which wasn’t easily accessible from the Bourne shelMar 27 16:03
mateyonly "problem" is, they did genetic research on this thoeryMar 27 16:03
mateylets NEVER quote python. youd get better design ideas from any raving lunatic reeking of booze on the side of the road than youd get from the "stewards" of modern pythonMar 27 16:04
mateyid sooner use perl than whats become of python Mar 27 16:04
kingoffranceim not saying that is bad, im saying amoeba was a specific unix-like thing, that they didnt think shell was a good fit forMar 27 16:05
mateyanyway, the genetic makeup doesnt support the "superior aryan" theoryMar 27 16:05
kingoffrancewhich is not to say that was even the "wrong" decision, just i dont see unix philosophy had anything to do with it either wayMar 27 16:05
mateythey didnt wipe out the ancestorsMar 27 16:05
mateythey mingled.Mar 27 16:05
kingoffranceyes, unix is a mingling of prior ideas?Mar 27 16:05
mateythe people of the indus valley are the descendants of both the aryans and the people they "wiped out"Mar 27 16:05
mateyunix has mingled with other ideas-- its not wiped out at allMar 27 16:06
mateygranted it has mingled with some pretty bad ideas sometimesMar 27 16:06
mateybut if i wanted to use version 1, id be working on reviving version 1Mar 27 16:07
mateythats not a goal of mineMar 27 16:07
mateyi like SOME of the ideas that have come along since thenMar 27 16:07
mateysome of them are awful tooMar 27 16:07
mateysome of them should be thrown out-- and we should have choicesMar 27 16:07
mateybut MOST of the messes are created by people trying to take us from what works for usMar 27 16:08
mateyand dragging us through fad after fad using market pressureMar 27 16:08
mateyand obviously im against thatMar 27 16:08
kingoffrance"why does each language need a package manager?"  i should add, this is another reason "why cannot rust or <insert lang here> speak its native tongue at ABI level?"  is ridiculous.  people dont even agree on high level "package managers" where it should be easier to 'abstract", let alone low level thingsMar 27 16:08
mateyfreedom 3 should make us immune to that! https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.htmlMar 27 16:08
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mateybut freedom 3 is a bit more fragile than the fsf admits (or even understands)Mar 27 16:09
mateyin fact the unix philosophy (which rms openly never gave a shit about) is a boon to freedom 3Mar 27 16:09
mateyand without it, freedom 3 may (continue to) sufferMar 27 16:09
psydruidpeople in Europe are also descendants of indigenous populations and people closely related to the Aryans who settled in IndiaMar 27 16:09
psydruidsurprise, people mingledMar 27 16:10
mateyyes but the story went: they got wiped outMar 27 16:10
mateyconquored-- killed offMar 27 16:10
kingoffranceyes, philosophically that seems to always be a lieMar 27 16:10
mateynot "raised families together"-- thats what happened, its not the story thoughMar 27 16:10
kingoffrancethats the ouroborus dragon lolMar 27 16:10
kingoffrancehe does that lolMar 27 16:10
mateythe thing is, unix philosophy can be brought back to fight for freedom 3Mar 27 16:11
mateyit doesnt have to be pure, it simply doesnt have to sit in the shadow of corporate bullshitMar 27 16:11
mateycorporations LOVED unixMar 27 16:11
mateyof course they turned it into corporate bullshitMar 27 16:11
mateyand the irony being that-- unix was bell labs and very corporate (but)Mar 27 16:12
mateyit was and it wasntMar 27 16:12
mateyit was a small team, first of allMar 27 16:12
mateysecond, it was a small team working with a system designed to be easy to port (because at&t couldnt do computers as a business)Mar 27 16:12
mateyand when it got too big, other small teams formed (like at berkeley)Mar 27 16:13
mateyand the bsd team was smaller than the bell labs teamMar 27 16:13
kingoffrancei never saved the "interview" but some claim they were told they can only design on a chalkboard/whiteboard, no implementing, because multics didnt go well.  and they took their computers away from them.  and they had to borrow something from psychology dept. IIRC?    porting a game too.    later, "word processing" was spun as this was all "planned".     Mar 27 16:13
*psydruid read all about Max Müller's "theories" years agoMar 27 16:14
mateyin the 80s, ritchie and thompson actually adopted a bsd codebase for research unixMar 27 16:15
mateyso bsd was both downstream and upstreamMar 27 16:15
mateynot to mention that one of them went on sabbatical to ASSIST bsd Mar 27 16:15
kingoffrancea fiction book claims alexander the great landed somewhere, men where weary and just wanted to go home to their families but he wanted more land,  so he burned their own ships (secretly)   " oh no, they destroyed our ships! no going back"  lol       you want an OS?   take away their computers and tell them no coding allowed lol    reverse psychology lolMar 27 16:15
kingoffrancethat's like warcraft "bloodlust" spell lolMar 27 16:15
kingoffrance*wereMar 27 16:16
mateyburn your bridges, and build them back with wealth <- metallica, "holier than thou"Mar 27 16:16
psydruidthat was the battle against King PorusMar 27 16:16
psydruida minor king in IndiaMar 27 16:16
psydruidor maybe another one, but this one was at the end of his reignMar 27 16:17
mateymultics went better than the story is told, but a lot of people left the project, including at&tMar 27 16:17
mateyi dont know which department they got the pdp 7  from, but it wasnt being usedMar 27 16:18
mateyto get a better pdp, they sold the idea of text formatting software to the legal departmentMar 27 16:18
psydruidI suspect Multics would work just fine with today's hardware resourcesMar 27 16:18
mateythe last multics instllation went offline in 2000-somethingMar 27 16:19
mateyit was used in military industrial applicationsMar 27 16:19
mateylike air traffic control that sort of thingMar 27 16:19
mateythe reason they went to the legal department is the legal department is like congressMar 27 16:20
mateythey can pretty much write their own budgetMar 27 16:20
mateyso if they wanted software developed, all they had to do was ask for the fundsMar 27 16:20
mateytoday theres an it department so going to legal wouldnt workMar 27 16:22
kingoffrancethere's an emulator...Mar 27 16:22
mateyyou can login to a unix system v machine and use it from the term Mar 27 16:22
mateyits at one of the computing museums (not the one in ukraine)Mar 27 16:23
mateyi think its a british oneMar 27 16:23
mateyi think the machine itself is an at&t mini computerMar 27 16:25
mateypossibly 32bitMar 27 16:25
psydruidmy thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevantMar 27 16:27
mateythis is actually something paul allen fundedMar 27 16:28
mateyand its in seattle https://www.livingcomputers.org/Computer-Collection/Online-Systems.aspxMar 27 16:28
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psydruidand not so much Multics itselfMar 27 16:28
matey<psydruid> my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant <- do you assume thyere better than the ones in unix?Mar 27 16:28
psydruid"Multics on RISC-V"Mar 27 16:28
mateypsydruid: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UYb6WqWBTE0 "Mark Allen - Before Unix: An Early History of Timesharing Systems"Mar 27 16:29
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psydruid> <psydruid> my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant <- do you assume thyere better than the ones in unix?Mar 27 16:29
psydruidI want to read a book I have downloaded about Multics to find out more about it and to see if they might be better than those in UnixMar 27 16:29
mateythe guy in this video was involved with multics https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q07PhW5sCEkMar 27 16:30
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mateymy bet is you will find that unix simplified ideas that multics explored, and ritchie and thompson streamlined some thingsMar 27 16:32
mateybut of course if you learn something interesting from the book, i hope youll mention itMar 27 16:32
psydruidthere is only one way of finding outMar 27 16:33
mateymultics was a beast. from what ive learned about it, im not sure its more useful than unixMar 27 16:33
mateybut yes, i thought it was worth exploring, no reason you shouldnt explore it tooMar 27 16:33
mateysometimes going back farther gives just ONE really good idea that the "newer stuff" didnt need to abandonMar 27 16:33
psydruidmaybe it was too complex for its timeMar 27 16:34
mateyi still think its cool (despite vax being a mess) that you could move running processesMar 27 16:34
mateyfrom one machine to anotherMar 27 16:34
mateyim sceptical that the complexity of multics was necessary at allMar 27 16:35
psydruidI'm not sure OpenVMS can do thatMar 27 16:35
psydruidimagine moving processes from a machine using one architecture to a machine using another architectureMar 27 16:36
kingoffrance^Mar 27 16:36
kingoffrancethat seems to have been abandoned, in favor of just migrating a whole vmMar 27 16:36
kingoffrancefor better or worse, modern stuff seems to have little interest in that level of granularityMar 27 16:37
kingoffrancethe "whole vm" is arguably simpler in some ways, or arguably it just avoids issuesMar 27 16:38
matey<kingoffrance> that seems to have been abandoned, in favor of just migrating a whole vm <- this is what im finding / summising tooMar 27 16:39
mateyi dont know what commands vms used for process management, or what terms were used for moving processesMar 27 16:40
mateyso its very hard to determine if those are available in openvmsMar 27 16:40
mateyif you move a whole vm, and you shut down the machine it was running on, no problemMar 27 16:40
psydruidI couldn't even get a hobbyist licence for it, so that's thatMar 27 16:40
mateyif you move all the necessary processes but one, and shut down the machine that was hosting them...Mar 27 16:41
psydruidas if they want knowledge about it to remain obscureMar 27 16:41
mateykingoffrance raises the point that theyve managed to do this in a more modern and perhaps practical way with a vmMar 27 16:41
mateyor as if it simply isnt as useful as it once wasMar 27 16:42
mateytbh i think if you can write an os, you could make it so the processes could be tranferred over the networkMar 27 16:42
mateyremember that move really means copy and deleteMar 27 16:42
mateyso to move a process, youd actually copy it to another hostMar 27 16:42
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mateythen terminate itMar 27 16:42
psydruidthat's probably the case, but it would be nice if there was at least some literature comparing the approachesMar 27 16:43
mateyand how do you copy a process? you copy the memory it uses, then you copy the pointers to itMar 27 16:43
mateyit would be nice <- sure, but the documentation probably gives you the information you needMar 27 16:43
mateyif you can find it Mar 27 16:43
psydruidI'll have a look at HPE's siteMar 27 16:44
psydruidor wherever I can find some book about the OSMar 27 16:44
mateypsydruid https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_decvaxvmstInternalsandDataStructures5.21991_146952745Mar 27 16:45
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kingoffrancei imagine code itself (or some bytecode, whatever) is the easy part.  the trickiness is resource (file handles, paths,  single system image of RAM, etc.)Mar 27 16:47
kingoffrance*resourcesMar 27 16:47
psydruidmatey, that looks great, I wonder if there is something like that for Alpha tooMar 27 16:47
mateydec alpha?Mar 27 16:48
*psydruid has Debian for Alpha installed in QEMUMar 27 16:48
psydruidyesMar 27 16:48
mateyhttps://download.majix.org/dec/alpha_arch_ref.pdfMar 27 16:48
psydruidI meant VMS on Alpha, but that definitely helps tooMar 27 16:49
mateyfair enoughMar 27 16:49
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psydruidit's because of that emulated machine that I know that some of the code in Debian has issues with alignmentMar 27 16:50
mateyAlphaVM does not actually emulate OpenVMS. AlphaVM emulates the DEC Alpha system hardware. As the result OpenVMS runs on the virtual hardware unmodified. Since the emulated hardware is Alpha, it is OpenVMS/AXP that runs on AlphaVM. In fact, for the user it may look like OpenVMS runs on the Intel x86-64 based hardware.Mar 27 16:51
mateywww0.mi.infn.it/~calcolo/OpenVMS/ssb71/6459/6459p012.htmMar 27 16:52
mateycause severe performance degradation on Alpha systems, DEC C for OpenVMS Alpha systems aligns data on natural boundaries by default. To override this feature and retain VAX (packed) alignment, specify the # pragma nomember_alignment preprocessor directive in your source file or use the /NOMEMBER_ALIGNMENT command line qualifier.Mar 27 16:52
mateypsydruid: http://www0.mi.infn.it/~calcolo/OpenVMS/ssb71/6459/6459ptoc.htmMar 27 16:53
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kingoffranceyes, thats another reason "speak rust natively" is a non-sequitor. Mar 27 16:53
kingoffranceturns out, different hardware has different abi requirements to avoid "severe performance degradation"Mar 27 16:53
psydruidmatey, all useful links, thanksMar 27 16:53
mateycheersMar 27 16:53
kingoffranceand the places that doesnt matter, will see it as "bloat" if they have all this "unneeded" "padding"Mar 27 16:54
matey/me is still working on that honourary masters of library scienceMar 27 16:54
mateykingoffrance: maybe its a scam to make rust seem more important (and c less relevant)Mar 27 16:56
mateyor less "scam" more "just bullshit"Mar 27 16:56
psydruidI was thinking about that earlierMar 27 16:57
mateythe best bullshit needs a kernel of truth of course-- then it has to be twistedMar 27 16:57
kingoffrance^Mar 27 16:57
mateyor to put it gently: marketingMar 27 16:57
kingoffrancewhy is everyone afraid of two-sided draco. just say forked tongue dragon lolMar 27 16:57
kingoffranceone side is good, one is bad lolMar 27 16:57
mateyin the tree of life neither side is badMar 27 16:58
mateyits the one side without the other that doom is derived fromMar 27 16:58
mateythe details without the big picture-- the details themselves arent the problemMar 27 16:58
psydruidif C is fundamentally broken and complex, if C++ is fundamentally broken and complex and if Rust is fundamentally broken and complex, what other programming language could or should we use?Mar 27 16:58
mateyjudgment without mercy-- judging itself isnt the problemMar 27 16:58
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mateyno you see rust is exceptional!Mar 27 16:59
mateylike americaMar 27 16:59
matey :DMar 27 16:59
psydruid:DMar 27 16:59
kingoffrancefull of exceptions ? :DMar 27 16:59
kingoffrancelike englishMar 27 16:59
kingoffrance*engrishMar 27 16:59
mateyengrust.comMar 27 17:00
mateygithub.com/engrust/engrustMar 27 17:00
mateyemotions without principles-- emotions themselves arent the problem Mar 27 17:02
matey(weird pairing maybe but i dont make the rules)Mar 27 17:02
mateywhy is everyone afraid of two-sided draco <- what do you mean by "fear", "pachad" or "ruach" (being afraid or in awe)Mar 27 17:04
mateyboth meanings of "fear" can cause tremblingMar 27 17:04
mateyboth translate to "fear" in englishMar 27 17:04
kingoffranceno i mean everyone talking about jesus earlier, but this is not the placeMar 27 17:04
matey/me wonders if finding the "true abi" for language will manage to exclude (or disadvantage) some physical architecture that someone wants excluded or disadvantagedMar 27 17:06
mateynot just any true abi, the ONE true abi :PMar 27 17:06
*kingoffrance stares at java, objective-c, OO in general...........Mar 27 17:06
kingoffranceeveryone wants that grailMar 27 17:07
mateysubjective-c?Mar 27 17:07
kingoffrancei prefer volatile, story of melMar 27 17:07
mateythe real hacker?Mar 27 17:07
mateycodes to sync on drum storage rotations, hold my beer?Mar 27 17:08
mateyoptimises for drum rotations ^Mar 27 17:08
kingoffranceit would make migrating across machines easier, each instruction can be overridden.  just kills all performanceMar 27 17:08
kingoffrancesomeone in another channel said opcodes (for x86?)  each are effectively a branch...so mel won out...Mar 27 17:08
mateyctrl-alt-del on everything?Mar 27 17:08
MinceR> couldnt afford technicolor because there was a war onMar 27 17:08
MinceRlolMar 27 17:08
mateyntsc = never twice the same colour... pal = people are lavenderMar 27 17:09
kingoffrancelet me revise thatMar 27 17:10
kingoffrancefor poetic reasons, not commenting on realityMar 27 17:10
*kingoffrance stares at java, objective-c, OO in general corpses hanging from treeMar 27 17:10
MinceRjust learn oopMar 27 17:14
mateyoop i did it againMar 27 17:14
mateyoop is actually useful for some things. the main problem is that some things != all thingsMar 27 17:14
*psydroid9 tends to think that there is a universal abi of language that subsequently gets mapped to natural languages in an imperfect wayMar 27 17:14
MinceRthere are enough languages that support oop but don't force it on youMar 27 17:15
mateyYESMar 27 17:15
mateyand python did this reasonably well (enough that i didnt hate it, but approved)Mar 27 17:15
mateythis was after years of watching people who LOVED oop use it to screw up languages that already worked well (and were fun)Mar 27 17:15
mateyand python came along said "look, im not a dick"Mar 27 17:15
mateythen google bought python and python was like "im a dick, im a dick"Mar 27 17:16
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mateythen python sold itself to microsoftMar 27 17:16
mateytwiceMar 27 17:16
MinceRc++ does it well, common lisp does it wellMar 27 17:17
kingoffranceim just saying it didnt play out like the marketing.  5 package managers, instead of one class that multiple things can call.   it is not either-or of course, abstractions can be built after-the-fact on topMar 27 17:18
kingoffrancechaos dragon, err, finds a way  Mar 27 17:18
MinceRvoid dragon?Mar 27 17:20
kingoffranceyes :)Mar 27 17:22
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22031912Mar 27 17:26
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mateyGNU Pascal (GPC) is the official Pascal compiler of the GNU project. It is compatible to Standard Pascal as defined in ISO 7185, and it implements "most" of the ISO 10206 Extended Pascal standard. Unlike Free Pascal, GPC is not self-hosted, i.e. it is not able to translate and build itself.Mar 27 18:00
mateyim not sure you would want every gnu compile to be self hosted (though for c and c++ at least, it would be nice if c could compile them)Mar 27 18:01
mateyevery compiler that self hosts needs to be bootstrapped (as far as i know)Mar 27 18:01
mateyunless perhaps the compiler is written in a subset of itself which is available a stub for another language for boostrappingMar 27 18:02
mateylike theres a mini pascal compiler implemented in c that can be used to compile the latest (Self hostiing) pascal compilerMar 27 18:03
mateyyoud maintain the pascal compiler then each time you came out with a new one youd make sure the stub could still bootstrap itMar 27 18:04
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bnchsmatey: you would NOT want a self hosting compilerMar 27 18:41
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mateybnchs other than the caveat i already mentioned, why not?Mar 27 18:47
bnchswell self hosting does seem goodMar 27 18:47
bnchsbutMar 27 18:47
bnchswhat if the new version of compilerMar 27 18:48
bnchsintroduces a new feature that it will use in the newer versionMar 27 18:48
mateyokay so this begs the questionMar 27 18:49
mateyif the compiler isnt self hosting, what should it be implemented inMar 27 18:49
bnchscMar 27 18:50
mateyso basically just what i imaginedMar 27 18:50
mateyyoure better off implementing a compiler in c (or a language implemented in c)Mar 27 18:50
mateybecause then you only have to bootstrap the compilerMar 27 18:50
mateyrather then you only have to bootstrap the c compilerMar 27 18:50
schestowitz-TRiirc, matlab is written incMar 27 18:50
schestowitz-TR*in  cMar 27 18:51
mateyyou dont have to bootstrap each language that is implemented with a Mar 27 18:51
mateymost languages are implemented in c i thinkMar 27 18:51
mateycertainly not allMar 27 18:51
schestowitz-TRbut c still needs a compiler, and those need tokenisersMar 27 18:51
schestowitz-TRlike lex and yaccMar 27 18:51
schestowitz-TRor flexMar 27 18:51
bnchsyesMar 27 18:51
schestowitz-TRso parsers are another layerMar 27 18:51
schestowitz-TRand I'm not sure if they're based on c themselves or some machine codeMar 27 18:52
mateythey wouldnt be based on machine codeMar 27 18:52
bnchsmatey: rust compiler is written in rustMar 27 18:52
schestowitz-TRthis is where I deplore some absolutistsMar 27 18:52
schestowitz-TRthey go down to siliconMar 27 18:52
bnchsand this has caused some problemsMar 27 18:52
schestowitz-TRlike physically siliconMar 27 18:52
schestowitz-TRnot semi-conductorsMar 27 18:52
schestowitz-TRwhat if...Mar 27 18:52
bnchswhich made someoneMar 27 18:52
bnchsmake a C++ bootstrap compiler for rustMar 27 18:52
schestowitz-TRyes, well... you cannot check your wafer with a microscope, not usefully anywayMar 27 18:53
schestowitz-TRbtw, I have a dump questionMar 27 18:53
schestowitz-TRhow was rust developed?Mar 27 18:53
mateyyou cannot check your wafer with a microscope, not usefully anyway <- nor would you Mar 27 18:53
schestowitz-TR*dumb question, sort ofMar 27 18:53
schestowitz-TRremember gcc was "made on unix"Mar 27 18:53
mateyyou would check the pattern that goes to the lithograph before it goes to the siliconMar 27 18:54
schestowitz-TRand gnu emacs was developed on some proprietary editorMar 27 18:54
bnchsschestowitz-TR, yeah uhhhMar 27 18:54
mateyand theres a difference between autonomy and "absolutism"Mar 27 18:54
mateyfor example, if you want a chip intel no longer makesMar 27 18:54
mateywhether you can check it or not isnt the point, intel doesnt make it-- you want more, someone else has to make themMar 27 18:54
mateythats autonomy, its got nothing to do with absolutismMar 27 18:55
mateylike physically silicon not semi-conductors <- ...Mar 27 18:55
bnchsthats a good questionMar 27 18:56
bnchsi think it was written in C++Mar 27 18:56
bnchsand then they rewrote it all in rustMar 27 18:56
bnchsto make it self-hostingMar 27 18:56
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mateyimplementing an unstable language that constantly wants things rewritten in itself was a pretty silly thing to doMar 27 18:58
mateyrust is a compiler for calvinballMar 27 18:58
bnchsand thats the problemMar 27 18:58
bnchsyou wanna compile rust?Mar 27 18:58
bnchscompile from the very first versionMar 27 18:58
bnchsto the very last versionMar 27 18:58
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mateythe method i outlined for a self hosting compiler was sanerMar 27 18:59
kingoffrancei thought we agreed all there is is calvinball?    "language has always mutated"Mar 27 18:59
mateybut there are very few advantages to a self-hosting compilerMar 27 18:59
bnchswriting the compiler in C?Mar 27 18:59
bnchsmaking it easier to compile that way?Mar 27 18:59
bnchsnah thats boringMar 27 18:59
mateyboring = reliableMar 27 19:00
bnchsyeahMar 27 19:01
bnchsbut do you really want rust fanatics breathing down your neckMar 27 19:01
bnchs"memory unsafe language!!!!"Mar 27 19:01
mateywho wants a memory safe langauge implemented in an implementation designed to forget itself?Mar 27 19:02
kingoffrancethats pretty much itMar 27 19:02
kingoffrancewhen i do this its perfectionm, when you do same exact thing its a crimeMar 27 19:02
matey<kingoffrance> i thought we agreed all there is is calvinball?    "language has always mutated" <- we also ceded that there are different levels of stability and instabilityMar 27 19:02
mateyorder is relative stability and chaos is unacceptable levels of instabilityMar 27 19:03
kingoffrancenah, theres only instability covered up with veneer of "order".  humans are infinitely fallibleMar 27 19:03
kingoffrancei am with "commies" on thisMar 27 19:03
mateyhumans are infinitely fallible <- okay, prove it :)Mar 27 19:03
kingoffranceit cant be proven, because it cannot be comprehendedMar 27 19:04
kingoffrancehumans lack omniscienceMar 27 19:04
kingoffrancei am with q from star trek on this tooMar 27 19:04
kingoffrance:)Mar 27 19:04
mateyit cant be proven because you cant prove the proof isnt an example of fallibility Mar 27 19:04
mateyq ex machinaMar 27 19:05
mateyif youre omnipotent you cant be impotent, so one thing q never worries about is qedMar 27 19:06
kingoffranceno, the fact a human cannot prove it supports itMar 27 19:06
mateyno, the fact a human cannot prove it supports it <- so its a circular argumentMar 27 19:07
kingoffrancethats how people rollMar 27 19:07
kingoffrancelike a dragon lolMar 27 19:07
matey"love is... like a circle" i now pronounce you chuck and larryMar 27 19:07
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kingoffrancewell lets get back on topic.. i think you are looking for "logic" "truth" where there is none.  it is just "who" is doing something that determines "good" or "bad"Mar 27 19:08
kingoffrance"when" maybeMar 27 19:08
mateyactually mi is whoMar 27 19:08
mateybut that would agree, because mi is unreachableMar 27 19:09
kingoffrancemi's on first?Mar 27 19:09
mateysometimes his wife comes out and gives him moneyMar 27 19:09
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mateytruth is also miMar 27 19:11
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mateyactually sorry, truth is... Mar 27 19:12
mateytruth is also mi <- noMar 27 19:12
techrights-newsInherent limitation in both synergy and barrier (latest): they assume you have no more than 2 computers to the left, two to the right, and one above, one below. That limits what I try to accomplish with their GUI.Mar 27 19:13
mateythough i knew someone who thought so, i thinkMar 27 19:13
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techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163049Mar 27 19:13
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bnchsso uhh news on vidya gaymesMar 27 19:15
techrights-newsToday's video will be 2.5 hours long, with focus on the EPO. Spent almost all day on maintenance tasks, not writing.Mar 27 19:16
bnchsfacepunch's sequel to gmod (s&box) is gonna be using tim swine-e's engine, currently windows-only, and uses C# for the addonsMar 27 19:16
kingoffranceif rust is like this i think that guarantees they will 180 at some pointMar 27 19:18
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bnchskingoffrance, you mean writing their compiler in rust?Mar 27 19:19
bnchswell that is gonna be trueMar 27 19:19
bnchsa big change in the syntax is enough to make the compiler uncompilableMar 27 19:20
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kingoffrancethat is part of it, i mean not having a standard outside of "the implementation itself"Mar 27 19:20
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kingoffrance"No, there is no sound formal specification of Rust at present. It will come when the language stabilises further"    <-- when it stabilises further, they will 180Mar 27 19:20
bnchsyeahMar 27 19:21
kingoffrancebroken record, this makes it even more ridiculous "rust speaking its native tongue at abi level"Mar 27 19:22
bnchsthey're doing a big mistake self-hosting their compiler this earlyMar 27 19:22
bnchsit will make the compiler rely on deprecated featuresMar 27 19:22
kingoffrancethey hate c because they are similar on that point Mar 27 19:22
bnchsthus causing more headaches in the developmentMar 27 19:22
kingoffrancelove is blind :DMar 27 19:22
kingoffrancesorry lolMar 27 19:22
bnchsthey'll either make the compiler tolerate deprecated crap to compile itselfMar 27 19:22
bnchsor implement hacksMar 27 19:23
bnchsthat gets enabled when it detects that it's compiling a rust compilerMar 27 19:23
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DaemonFCWell, it's nice I can agree with dad about something. I mentioned the Orsk.Mar 27 19:25
bnchsmMar 27 19:26
DaemonFCHe said, "100% correct. It was an Alligator-class ship that could beach itself and vomit out 300 Russian bastards along with some tanks for them to burn to death in. The only tragedy was that I don't think it was full when the Ukrainians blew it up.".Mar 27 19:26
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Mar 27 19:26
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, NPR had a thing on the Peter Principle the other day.Mar 27 19:29
DaemonFCThe host explained that instead of promoting people into management because they performed well somewhere else, you could "give them a better sounding job title" and "maybe even avoid a raise".Mar 27 19:30
DaemonFCShe mentioned "Distinguished Engineer".Mar 27 19:30
DaemonFCWhich is the title that K.Y. Srinivasan has at Microsoft. He works on Hyper-V, and submits patches regarding that for the Linux kernel.Mar 27 19:31
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DaemonFCI guess that means they screwed him out of a promotion and possibly a raise for a "more elite-sounding job title".Mar 27 19:31
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mjg59_DaemonFC: Distinguished Engineer is a genuine title at Microsoft, and definitely involves a raiseMar 27 19:33
bnchsdistinguished engineer?Mar 27 19:34
mjg59_It's level 70 on the IC trackMar 27 19:34
bnchsshould linus deserve that?Mar 27 19:34
mjg59_Oh, Linus would be a FellowMar 27 19:34
mjg59_(Which is the step above Distinguished Engineer at most big tech companies)Mar 27 19:35
bnchsokMar 27 19:37
mjg59_Once you're a fellow they stop giving you new titles - at Google there are multiple promotion levels within FellowMar 27 19:38
bnchscan you sue them?Mar 27 19:39
mjg59_It doesn't make you immune to being suedMar 27 19:40
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schestowitz-TRSrinivasan used to be at Novell, IIRCMar 27 20:06
schestowitz-TRgravitating where the money is, not freedomMar 27 20:06
schestowitz-TRand then working on Microsoft crap, shimming in proprietary junkware with NSA hooks and interestsMar 27 20:07
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techrights-newsHow curious that Debian's official site has just RE-posted the statement on a volunteer that Debian management does not like. Don't they understand this only reaffirms the belief that they are afraid of him? ICBM already burned itself.Mar 27 20:14
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mjg59_"Volunteer" as opposed to "serial harasser"Mar 27 20:16
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mjg59_Who has repeatedly used other people's identitities without their permissionMar 27 20:17
techrights-news[GIT PULL] Ceph updates for 5.18-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220324172554.12797-1-idryomov@gmail.com/Mar 27 20:19
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techrights-news[GIT PULL] USB/Thunderbolt driver changes for 5.18-rc1 - Greg KH ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yj7vGtn8fILavjyL@kroah.com/ ䷉ Source: kroahMar 27 20:19
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mjg59_schestowitz-TR: What do you mean by "re-posted"?Mar 27 20:19
techrights-newsPrivate Social Network with Raspberry Pi and OpenSource Social Network • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163051Mar 27 20:20
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techrights-newsI wonder how blind people get past the monstrosity that is gitlab. Even terrible Microsoft GitHub has some JS-free fallbacks for the BASIC functionality.Mar 27 20:21
mjg59_?Mar 27 20:22
mjg59_There's no inherent conflict between javascript and accessibilityMar 27 20:22
mjg59_Accessibility tooling has access to the rendered stateMar 27 20:23
techrights-news..that's not even to mention ANOTHER blind people-hostile layer: CLOWNflare.Mar 27 20:23
activelowrule of thumb: any website which can be rendered with a text-only browser (lynx, w3m, links) may more easily be coped with by screen-readersMar 27 20:24
mjg59_activelow: Why?Mar 27 20:24
activelowsemi-structured text-content extractionMar 27 20:25
mjg59_That's orthogonal to it being renderable by a text-only browserMar 27 20:25
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mjg59_It's important that contextual information be present so that a screen reader can interpret things appropriatelyMar 27 20:26
mjg59_Whether that's plain HTML or something derived by javascript doesn't really matterMar 27 20:26
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activelowgemini is probably the easiest to cope with in this regardMar 27 20:28
DaemonFCmjg59_, I guess you'd know about Microsoft since they're the only ones who like your Shitter posts for the most part.Mar 27 20:28
DaemonFCAnyway, I'm sure you're aware that most of their employees are permatemps though.Mar 27 20:28
DaemonFCPermatemps, outsourced. They fired the entire US-based IE team after IE 6 went out.Mar 27 20:29
techrights-newsSince my earlier days with Fedora I've always disliked how nepumok or baloo or akonadi were slaughtering or clobbering away at my systems as soon I put some file on them. Sometimes it takes a while to identify those culprits too (and store-related process are hard to permanently suspend). It makes GNU/Linux look bad.Mar 27 20:29
DaemonFCIt was maintained by China after that.Mar 27 20:29
DaemonFCSo this is all nothing new.Mar 27 20:29
mjg59_DaemonFC: Is your claim that someone with a "Distinguished Engineer" title at Microsoft is actually a temp?Mar 27 20:30
DaemonFCI suppose if you maintain the worst browser in the world and it's full of lulz and security hazards, you just want cheap labor anyway.Mar 27 20:30
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: Is your claim that someone with a "Distinguished Engineer" title at Microsoft is actually a temp?Mar 27 20:30
DaemonFCNo.Mar 27 20:30
mjg59_OkMar 27 20:30
mjg59_So what's the relevanceMar 27 20:30
DaemonFCI never said that. I said most people who work there are either permatemps or outsourced.Mar 27 20:30
DaemonFCMicrosoft doesn't care about code quality.Mar 27 20:31
mjg59_Right. I'm asking why that's relevant at all to the conversationMar 27 20:31
DaemonFCThe last version of Windows that even kind of worked okay was Windows 2000.Mar 27 20:31
DaemonFCWhen they "contributed" stuff that only works with their proprietary shit anyway to the Linux kernel, it was all seriously broken too.Mar 27 20:31
DaemonFCThey funneled money through to Novell (at the time) to patch it all up, and I've honestly never seen a worse kernel module in my life than hv, even in -staging.Mar 27 20:32
DaemonFCAnd Microsoft had been shipping that to their customers in the shape it was in, and only released it eventually because of GPL violations.Mar 27 20:32
DaemonFCFrom what they've released as "open source" and from what's leaked out over the years, I mean, it's just hideous.Mar 27 20:33
DaemonFCAnd to have "Fellow" and "Distinguished" or even "Engineer" as a job title there is funny.Mar 27 20:33
schestowitz-TRdon't chu know fancy job titles are one day to compensate for law salary?Mar 27 20:34
schestowitz-TR"sure, we'll pay you $50k a year, but WATCH THIS TITLE"Mar 27 20:34
DaemonFCIE for UNIX was even worse than anything else they've ever done before. They don't know how to port software now, and it was even worse then.Mar 27 20:34
schestowitz-TR"the ladies will be soooo impressed"Mar 27 20:34
DaemonFCIf you had a different patch configuration on Solaris, IE would just crash and often take the kernel down with it.Mar 27 20:34
DaemonFCSo I mean, userspace software doing THAT everyone.Mar 27 20:34
DaemonFCIt actually comes in the notes for IE for Solaris which patches you need and it says if you have more patches, things can go wrong.Mar 27 20:35
DaemonFCSo some guy reviewing old software on YouTube had to figure out how to construct the exact environment IE needed to run, and along the way he had it kernel panic Solaris when he loaded Internet Explorer.Mar 27 20:35
DaemonFCThere's nothing like that going on today in GNU/Linux and I'm not even sure anyone but Microsoft managed it back then.Mar 27 20:36
techrights-newsWelcome to KDE in 2022. Working desktops, two HD displays, widgets and all at just 500MB of RAM. A boss recently insinuated that any machine with less than 8GB of RAM is unfit for work. I had a good laugh at that...Mar 27 20:38
DaemonFCThere's a very good reason to keep Microsoft repos out of your GNU/Linux distribution. Like General O'Neill said in an episode of Stargate SG-1, "Well, we could just toss a nuke down the hatch.". Replicators episode, I think. Anyway, Microsoft has done some truly retarded shit with their "Linux" packaging that has ruined the entire OS.Mar 27 20:38
DaemonFCSo giving them a backdoor into your system to install whatever such packages they want is maybe perhaps not the greatest idea.Mar 27 20:38
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DaemonFCSo people should (1) avoid distros that come with these repos, (2) if they really must use them, delete Microsoft's repos and signing keys and PURGE Microsoft programs that came on the system, and (3) don't ever install anything from Microsoft yourself.Mar 27 20:40
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DaemonFCIt's nuts that people who are at least incompetent and usually malicious are allowed to go anywhere near a product that ships with a "Linux" distribution.Mar 27 20:41
DaemonFCMoney talks.Mar 27 20:41
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DaemonFCI don't even think they usually pay much for deals like these.Mar 27 20:41
mjg59_schestowitz-TR: Total compensation for a distinguished engineer at Microsoft can easily be >$1,000,000Mar 27 20:42
DaemonFCIsn't the "Raspberry Pi Foundation" making money from the hardware sales? Do they really need a $20,000 one-off payment from Microsoft to backdoor the official OS for the thing?Mar 27 20:42
DaemonFC<mjg59_> schestowitz-TR: Total compensation for a distinguished engineer at Microsoft can easily be >$1,000,000Mar 27 20:42
schestowitz-TRtoo muchMar 27 20:42
schestowitz-TRnot much to do with that moneyMar 27 20:43
schestowitz-TRyou die working for criminalsMar 27 20:43
DaemonFCFinally a salary for the Very Progressive Bay Area, where they just doubled the rent on an AIDS victim to drive him out of his home for the last 50 years.Mar 27 20:43
schestowitz-TRand you lack the time to enjoy lifeMar 27 20:43
DaemonFCMatt Gulag says people there "get it".Mar 27 20:43
schestowitz-TRthat compensation level also assumes USMar 27 20:43
schestowitz-TRICBM outsources the jobsMar 27 20:43
schestowitz-TRand so the median pay at IBM is 7k a year, IIRCMar 27 20:43
schestowitz-TRBEFORE taxMar 27 20:44
schestowitz-TRafter tax it can be like 45kMar 27 20:44
schestowitz-TRmedian, inc. senior workers and managersMar 27 20:44
DaemonFC$3,000 a month wasn't "enough". And if his 30 year old "stock investor" landlord doesn't manage to harass and litigate him out or get her $6,000 a month rent approved and chase him out that way despite the rent control law....Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz-TRof course they also kick out older workersMar 27 20:44
DaemonFCEviction by fire, and then the city will pretend to look into it and quietly let the issue die.Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz-TRso they have a decade or two to cash inMar 27 20:44
schestowitz-TRthen they get stigmatised "sinobabies" and discardedMar 27 20:44
schestowitz-TRfor not "upskilling;"Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz-TR(for being "too expensive")Mar 27 20:45
schestowitz-TRthen they kill themselves, the spouse sues ICBMMar 27 20:45
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DaemonFCI'm thoroughly convinced that the only way to improve San Francisco is a Tomahawk landing on top of the city council building. They're like Democrats on Steroids in there. They're like the usual Democrats. Racist and bigoted fucks disguising themselves in sheep's clothing. In there coming up with bad ideas, calling them "the law".Mar 27 20:46
DaemonFCThe "rent control law" is unenforced and even when it is enforced, the landlords will literally torch the place themselves in the middle of the night and manage not to be truly investigated.Mar 27 20:47
bnchsschestowitz-TR, does microsoft hire shills to make their software look betterMar 27 20:47
bnchsi noticed this alotMar 27 20:47
DaemonFCThen they'll sit on the burned-out building and cash "loss of rent" insurance checks until they're certain you're not coming back.Mar 27 20:47
bnchspeople always talk about VS and their debugger and shitMar 27 20:47
DaemonFCTHEN they fix it and double the rent.Mar 27 20:47
bnchsbut never what makes it "good"Mar 27 20:47
DaemonFCSo, arson, insurance fraud, and violating rent control.Mar 27 20:48
DaemonFCAnd they get away with it because they're rich, and nobody seems to care.Mar 27 20:48
DaemonFCSan Francisco.....where people "get it".Mar 27 20:48
bnchsDaemonFC: so you mean scamming the tenantsMar 27 20:48
DaemonFCIn most places, insurance fraud would be investigated for sure, if nothing else, because insurance companies are powerful.Mar 27 20:49
DaemonFC<bnchs> DaemonFC: so you mean scamming the tenantsMar 27 20:49
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DaemonFCYes, the landlords in San Francisco will stoop to anything, no matter how illegal, to raise rents.Mar 27 20:49
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bnchs__wowMar 27 20:49
DaemonFCAnd the Dumbocrat Party of Illinois wants "rent control boards" that you have to pay to keep your rent "affordable", which means whatever they want it to of course.Mar 27 20:50
DaemonFCAnd then you just have more government playing The Bribe is Right.Mar 27 20:50
bnchs__so uhhhMar 27 20:50
bnchs__what prevents them from clogging the drainMar 27 20:50
bnchs__and adding that to their rentMar 27 20:50
DaemonFCI had a landlord that was harassing me once.Mar 27 20:51
DaemonFCI mean REALLY harassing me.Mar 27 20:51
bnchs__why did he harass youMar 27 20:51
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DaemonFCSo I just started leaving everything electric on and the water running.Mar 27 20:51
DaemonFC<bnchs__> why did he harass youMar 27 20:51
mjg59_California has stronger tenants rights than most states do, but the refusal to allow meaningful quantities of new construction means that the landlords are in a strong position to fuck people overMar 27 20:51
DaemonFCBecause SHE was insane.Mar 27 20:51
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bnchs__oh a sheMar 27 20:52
mjg59_Anyway, not tech relatedMar 27 20:52
DaemonFCAnd then on my way out, I took pictures of all the shit she wasn't fixing and the city shut her down and told her no more leases anywhere until it was fixed to code.Mar 27 20:52
bnchs__DaemonFC, why in fact?Mar 27 20:52
DaemonFCFined her $5,500.Mar 27 20:52
bnchs__why was she insane?Mar 27 20:52
DaemonFCCrazy/MeanMar 27 20:52
bnchs__i mean why was she acting insane against youMar 27 20:52
DaemonFCUsual "greedy landlord fuck" stuff going on though.Mar 27 20:52
DaemonFCOh, she demanded in my apartment every day for like 5 months over a malfunctioning doorbell.Mar 27 20:53
DaemonFCShe paid some stupid idiot to fuck it up worse than before each time.Mar 27 20:53
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bnchs__wow what a bitchMar 27 20:53
DaemonFCThen she stopped notifying us she'd be out, and then she let herself in one day and I woke up with her standing over me in my bedroom.Mar 27 20:53
DaemonFCI told her that the door in back was broken and wouldn't shut. She didn't replace a $50 part.Mar 27 20:54
bnchs__wtfMar 27 20:54
bnchs__now thats where i draw itMar 27 20:54
DaemonFCSo 6 months later, the upstairs people left the door open when it was 26 degrees below zero out.Mar 27 20:54
DaemonFCAnd the pipes exploded.Mar 27 20:54
bnchs__i wouldn't like to wake up with my landlord standing over meMar 27 20:54
DaemonFCSo I called her, and she paid a plumber emergency rates to come out, then she didn't fix the door.Mar 27 20:54
DaemonFCAnd it happened again.Mar 27 20:54
DaemonFCAnd she accused me of sabotaging her building.Mar 27 20:54
bnchs__wowMar 27 20:55
DaemonFCThen when I moved out, she started calling me at 2-3 AM threatening that her husband was a lawyer and I told her "If you don't leave me alone, you're about to have a bigger problem than a month of unpaid rent after you forced us to find another apartment...".Mar 27 20:56
DaemonFCAnd she kept pushing, so she did.Mar 27 20:56
DaemonFC:)Mar 27 20:56
DaemonFCAnyway, never did hear from her after the city went in and shut her down.Mar 27 20:56
DaemonFCI'm guessing that she probably had to spend at least $12,000 in fines and repairs to get her license to rent apartments out back from the city, maybe more. I don't know what all was wrong with the place, but I took a lot of pictures of the obvious stuff.Mar 27 20:57
DaemonFCThen the city went after her with the anti-slumlord law.Mar 27 20:58
DaemonFCI reported her also for violating the Heat Ordinance.Mar 27 20:58
DaemonFCIt says between November and May your landlord must keep the unit at a minimum of 68 F during the day and 66 at night.Mar 27 20:58
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DaemonFCThe problem for her is, after all of that, if you go after someone in court, they can point to the city's investigation and the court order saying the building is unlivable, and they created a "constructive eviction" and you owe them nothing.Mar 27 21:00
DaemonFC:)Mar 27 21:00
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DaemonFCSimply put, constructive eviction means that the tenant was forced to break the lease and so none of the penalties apply and since it was the landlord's fault, the remaining rent is no longer due.Mar 27 21:00
DaemonFCThis can be due to.....unacceptable condition of the building, landord harassment, lots of things.Mar 27 21:01
DaemonFCIt's kind of the nuclear option, but it works.Mar 27 21:03
DaemonFCI doubt many people are smart enough to tie up their landlord in court. They just get evicted and don't even show up to court and then wonder why they can't get another apartment.Mar 27 21:04
DaemonFCIf you owe back rent and are going to be evicted, there's a couple things you can do to keep that part from happening. You can beat the landlord and file bankruptcy, which zeroes out the balance due and lets you stay in the place and not pay him while it makes its way through the court system.Mar 27 21:05
DaemonFCIt also effectively gags any of your creditors from saying anything had happened that hadn't already been reported to credit bureaus before the filing date when the automatic stay goes into effect.Mar 27 21:05
MinceRlol @ titles at MICROS~1Mar 27 21:06
MinceRis dave cutler a "distinguished engineer" too? :>Mar 27 21:06
DaemonFCIf you can't file, but you still don't want an eviction or forcible detainer case on your credit, you should get out, and give the landlord his keys and a letter stating that you are breaking the lease and you are no longer in possession of the apartment, by certified mail.Mar 27 21:06
DaemonFCThey can still get you for unpaid rent, but it's not an eviction.Mar 27 21:06
DaemonFCMinceR, No, he's a DISTIN~1, and everyone else is a DISTIN~2, DISTIN~3, and so on.Mar 27 21:08
MinceRlolMar 27 21:08
MinceR"are you absolutely, terminally clueless about engineer but want a big title and a big salary for churning out crap that destroys the IT industry? try getting a job at MICROS~1!"Mar 27 21:08
MinceRs/eer/eering/Mar 27 21:08
DaemonFCMATTHE~1 over there knows all about Microsoft, obviously.Mar 27 21:09
MinceR:>Mar 27 21:09
MinceRwell, he'd betterMar 27 21:09
MinceRhe served their agenda, after allMar 27 21:09
DaemonFCHey now, they used a paycheck condom called Red Hat and another one called Canonical.Mar 27 21:10
MinceR lolMar 27 21:10
DaemonFCLinux is a cancer! Also, stuff it full of this NSA shit, please and thank you!Mar 27 21:10
MinceR:>Mar 27 21:10
MinceR"also, we love that cancer"Mar 27 21:10
DaemonFCMMMMMMMmmmmm Cancer!Mar 27 21:11
MinceR:>Mar 27 21:11
DaemonFCWindows is finally so bloated it's collapsed in on itself like a neutron star.Mar 27 21:11
DaemonFCIf you unpack the WinSxS folder and the other stuff they used LZ77 compression on to hide the scandal, it wouldn't even fit on a 256 GB SSD.Mar 27 21:12
DaemonFCAnd that's just the OS.Mar 27 21:12
DaemonFCI can't imagine that Windows "11" has gotten any better on that front.Mar 27 21:18
MinceR:>Mar 27 21:18
DaemonFCIt embarrassingly showed recently that the Windows "10" shell is still there, and just suppressed so that you can't see it.Mar 27 21:18
psydruidWindows "11" updates are a joke, just like the rest of the malware operation systemMar 27 21:20
schestowitz-TR[20:47] <bnchs> schestowitz-TR, does microsoft hire shills to make their software look betterMar 27 21:21
DaemonFCbnchs__, Anyway, when someone is pestering you with a court, you file a bunch of counter-motions very quickly that will all or mostly be dismissed.Mar 27 21:21
DaemonFCTheir lawyer is charging them $200 to pick up the phone and $500 to draft a response to the court for each motion you file.Mar 27 21:21
schestowitz"If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good."Mar 27 21:21
schestowitzGuy who visited Jeffrey Epstein in prisonMar 27 21:21
bnchs__lolMar 27 21:21
schestowitzto try to make child trafficking for child sex look "good"Mar 27 21:21
bnchs__that's like making a sandwich with shitMar 27 21:22
schestowitz(Bill Gates, Microsoft<)Mar 27 21:22
bnchs__the shit tastes like shitMar 27 21:22
bnchs__so just make it taste good by adding tons of saucezsMar 27 21:22
DaemonFCWell, my spouse's sister filed a motion to drop her support affidavit from our case. I didn't mention that I had a replacement ready to file.Mar 27 21:22
DaemonFCI objected to it and made her lawyer bill her for more hours.Mar 27 21:22
schestowitzmaybe with enough "bill says" pieces in the mediaMar 27 21:22
schestowitzthey can even make "prince" andrew look goodMar 27 21:22
DaemonFCThen I dropped the objection and let it go through and filed my paperwork then.Mar 27 21:22
bnchs__BILL SEZMar 27 21:22
schestowitzand sex with childrenMar 27 21:22
schestowitz"look good"Mar 27 21:23
bnchs__when someone wants to sexually harrass youMar 27 21:23
schestowitzand epstein doing a "sanwich"Mar 27 21:23
schestowitzor a "bagelMar 27 21:23
bnchs__that's no gewdMar 27 21:23
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/Mar 27 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) ‘No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel’ | TechrightsMar 27 21:23
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bnchs__no worse than stealing a bagelMar 27 21:23
DaemonFCWhen she was all good and done, she had paid $2,000 to her lawyer for what she was originally quoted at $800, and then I filed my set of documents.Mar 27 21:23
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bnchs__lol thats fucking dumbMar 27 21:23
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DaemonFCAlways make people pay too high a price for continuing to harass you.Mar 27 21:23
bnchs__oh i stole a bagelMar 27 21:23
bnchs__make me a sex offenderMar 27 21:24
schestowitzyou pedo!Mar 27 21:24
bnchs__"hi i'm legally required to tell you i'm a bagel thief"Mar 27 21:24
bnchs__hide your bagelsMar 27 21:24
bnchs__there are bagel predatorsMar 27 21:24
schestowitzBagel stealer: stealing a bagel is no worse than smuggling thousands of young girls for sexual exploitaionMar 27 21:24
schestowitzbtw, isn't bagel a code word for something?Mar 27 21:25
schestowitzI heard of "pizza"Mar 27 21:25
schestowitzor "map"Mar 27 21:25
schestowitzthe FBI has lists of these wordsMar 27 21:25
bnchs__what does a bagel look likMar 27 21:25
schestowitzdon't askMar 27 21:25
DaemonFCEveryone in Florida has to notify everyone else in Florida that everyone in Florida is a pedophile moving into the neighborhood.Mar 27 21:25
schestowitzbut I beg they came up with some meaning for itMar 27 21:26
DaemonFC(Not much of an exaggeration really.)Mar 27 21:26
schestowitz"hi bill, leave the wife behind, I gome some bagels for you"Mar 27 21:26
bnchs__"hi bill"Mar 27 21:26
bnchs__i went to the local bakeryMar 27 21:26
bnchs__and got you some BAGELSMar 27 21:26
bnchs__wanna a bite?Mar 27 21:26
DaemonFCIllinois is a fucked up state full of braindead idiot Democrats....but it got one thing right. If you move into Illinois while you're on a sex offender registry, Illinois converts it to LIFETIME registration no matter how long you were required to register, and then even moving out of the state again won't get you off the list.Mar 27 21:27
schestowitz"no, jeffy, cannot"Mar 27 21:27
bnchs__come onMar 27 21:27
schestowitz"I might have to spend 2 years pretending to be a COVID expert if Lolinda Gates catches me"Mar 27 21:27
bnchs__it's just one bagelMar 27 21:27
bnchs__it won't hurt your reputationMar 27 21:27
DaemonFCIt's meant to deter people who are on the list from ever moving here unless they had lifetime registration anyway.Mar 27 21:27
bnchs__you can always do a #billpartnerMar 27 21:27
DaemonFCLike, if you got 10 years on the list in another state and you move here with 1 day remaining, you're on the list for life.Mar 27 21:28
DaemonFCSlows them down. Makes us get less trash from some other state.Mar 27 21:28
schestowitzbnchs__: how many #gatespartner in youtube are under 18\?Mar 27 21:28
schestowitzok, never mindMar 27 21:28
schestowitzat least they are not compelled by gatesfoundatiob to use the hastag #gatesplaymateMar 27 21:29
DaemonFCYou know, it's easy to forget that a few generations ago, people were expected to start having kids at 14-15.Mar 27 21:29
DaemonFCLike, my great grandmother got married at 14 and had her first child at 15.Mar 27 21:29
DaemonFCNobody thought anything of it then.Mar 27 21:29
bnchs__""Picking a PARTNER is CRUCIAL!" - Bill Gates"Mar 27 21:29
bnchs__Picking a BAGEL is CRUCIAL!Mar 27 21:29
DaemonFCThe only reason states have to change their marriage laws now is you can't have laws meant for civilization when you let Muslims into your country.Mar 27 21:30
bnchs__https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bhZa3J2cemMMar 27 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Bill Gates opens up about his divorce and Jeffrey Epstein - InvidiousMar 27 21:30
schestowitzCNN coverup?Mar 27 21:30
DaemonFCThere was a difference between letting a 14 and a 16 year old who were supporting themselves with WORK get married to each other, and letting some 60 year old Muslim pedo "marry" his victim.Mar 27 21:30
schestowitzCIA intern interviews himMar 27 21:31
MinceR(cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-16.jpgMar 27 21:31
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DaemonFCMinceR, They're doing a cat and dog food giveaway over at the school across the street.Mar 27 21:31
techrights-news"Another step forward for the mobile Lagrange: the first Android integrations have been done in the form of native text input, device status/navigation bar theming, and scroll behavior. According to my Alpha/Beta nomenclature, this ends the Alpha phase." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_android-beta1.gmiMar 27 21:32
DaemonFCPurina donated several thousand bags of each and people were lining up to get it.Mar 27 21:32
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bnchs"and asks Gates about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein -- one Gates called a "huge mistake.""Mar 27 21:32
bnchsit was a big mistake taking that bagel jeff gave meMar 27 21:32
DaemonFCI don't really need any. There's a lot of people who are having a lot of trouble feeding themselves, much less pets.Mar 27 21:32
bnchsi didn't know it was stolenMar 27 21:32
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bnchsi prayed to god that dayMar 27 21:34
bnchswhy i didn't choose donut instead of bagelMar 27 21:34
schestowitz-TRyou might want to look up meanings of these metaphorsMar 27 21:38
schestowitz-TRthere might be codes thereMar 27 21:38
schestowitz-TRI'd not look that up in search (surveillance) enginesMar 27 21:38
schestowitz-TRthe bagel metaphor might be even worse than we realiseMar 27 21:39
schestowitz-TRafaik, the terms keep hanging all the timeMar 27 21:39
bnchsi'm aware it could mean somethingMar 27 21:39
bnchslike cheese pizzaMar 27 21:39
schestowitz-TRbecause the pedos don't want to get caught, so they keep shuffling wordsMar 27 21:39
bnchsbagel is the shape of a holeMar 27 21:39
bnchsi'll leave it to your imaginationMar 27 21:39
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft Peter used quite a few code wordsMar 27 21:39
schestowitz-TRhe was arrested for raping kidsMar 27 21:39
bnchsbagels have holesMar 27 21:41
bnchslike donutsMar 27 21:41
bnchsthey're seasonedMar 27 21:41
techrights-news"For a long time Matrix has used Jitsi for it's call infrastructure but this poses an issue, it adds a single point of failure for group calls which for something like Matrix doesn't make sense so now Matrix finally supports calls over the Matrix network." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bLbZ13czCtcMar 27 21:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | GNOME is VERY customizable - InvidiousMar 27 21:44
techrights-newsLinux kernel source tree: Pull RISC-V updates from Palmer Dabbelt ⚓ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=aa5b537b0ecc16992577b013f11112d54c7ce869 ䷉ Source: gitMar 27 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source treeMar 27 21:45
techrights-news"In the past two days the number of games validated for the Steam Deck has jumped pretty fast once more. There are now more than 1900 games working on the Steam Deck – (1914 at the time of writing) in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/1900-games-on-the-steam-deck-with-wolfenstein-the-new-order-and-mortal-kombat-x-as-verified/Mar 27 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | 1900 Games On The Steam Deck, with Wolfenstein: The New Order and Mortal Kombat X as Verified - Boiling SteamMar 27 21:46
techrights-newsICBM hiring managers for southeast Asia from Microsoft and now... Cisco https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/getting-know-tammy-tan-country-manager-red-hat-malaysiaMar 27 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Getting to know Tammy Tan, country manager for Red Hat MalaysiaMar 27 21:51
bnchsschestowitz-TR, i might have figured out the codeMar 27 21:51
bnchshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagel_and_cream_cheeseMar 27 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bagel and cream cheese - WikipediaMar 27 21:52
bnchs"A bagel and cream cheese (also known as bagel with cream cheese) is a common food pairing in American cuisine,"Mar 27 21:52
schestowitz-TRthe bagel in't "fatass" enoughMar 27 21:53
schestowitz-TRlet's throw lots of cheesy cheese at it!!Mar 27 21:53
bnchsamerican cuisineMar 27 21:54
bnchsthey put cheese on everythingMar 27 21:54
techrights-newsWeird list as Gulag does crawl many of these https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-dark-websites-google-wont-find/#respondMar 27 21:55
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bnchsdevil's advocateMar 27 21:55
bnchsbut when you get used to eating tons of foodMar 27 21:55
bnchsyour stomach just expands to handle that muchMar 27 21:55
bnchsand it means more hungerMar 27 21:56
bnchsit's harder to diet that way, because you start feeling like a straving african in the first dayMar 27 21:57
techrights-news‘Drawing’ – A MS Paint Similar Tool to Edit Images in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163050#comment-33213Mar 27 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Drawing 1.0 Simple Image Editor for Linux Released | Tux MachinesMar 27 21:58
techrights-newsThe Best compression utilities for Ubuntu • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163052Mar 27 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Best compression utilities for Ubuntu | Tux MachinesMar 27 22:02
bnchsschestowitz-TR, i heard you like cheese in your burgerMar 27 22:07
bnchsso i put cheese in the cheeseMar 27 22:07
bnchshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Burger_King_Quad_Stacker_cheeseburger.jpgMar 27 22:07
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bnchsjust look at the juicy cheeseMar 27 22:07
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22031868Mar 27 22:11
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schestowitz-TRgnome has software called "cheese"Mar 27 22:16
schestowitz-TRbut reference to "sau cheeeese"Mar 27 22:16
schestowitz-TRI've just installed webcamoid on the new laptoMar 27 22:16
schestowitz-TRworks well, but I'd not want to encode video on it, it's far to weak for such a taskMar 27 22:16
bnchsyesMar 27 22:17
bnchsbut it needs more cheeseMar 27 22:17
DaemonFCI'm stocking up on some things while they're on iBotta.Mar 27 22:20
DaemonFCMandy likes my Kung Pao Chicken, but the cashews have gotten expensive. Big rebates right now.Mar 27 22:21
DaemonFCI'll just buy the maximum amount and stuff them in my pantry and then I can make it several more times on the cashews I bought real cheap.Mar 27 22:21
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DaemonFCI have about 80 pounds of chicken in the freezer right now.Mar 27 22:22
DaemonFCSomething like that.Mar 27 22:22
DaemonFC28 pounds of ground beef, iirc.Mar 27 22:22
DaemonFC4 big chuck roasts.Mar 27 22:22
DaemonFCLots of pork chops.Mar 27 22:22
DaemonFCThose were on BOGO at Jewel so I loaded up on those.Mar 27 22:23
DaemonFCI buy entire carts worth of cans at Aldi when I go over there.Mar 27 22:23
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DaemonFCYou only save about a nickel per can vs. Walmart, but if you go over there and shop in bulk...Mar 27 22:24
DaemonFCI pretty much have my own private supermarket. About the only thing you can't stockpile is fresh produce.Mar 27 22:24
DaemonFCThat spoils in days if you don't use it up.Mar 27 22:24
DaemonFCBut even if the store ran out of everything, I have plenty of meat, canned vegetables, and spices to last a long long time.Mar 27 22:25
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DaemonFChttps://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/27/man-arrested-for-accidentally-discharging-his-rifle-in-occupied-apartment-building-in-johnsburg/Mar 27 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Man arrested for accidentally discharging his rifle in occupied apartment building in JohnsburgMar 27 22:32
DaemonFCCalled the police to report himself....Mar 27 22:32
DaemonFCThey came out and arrested him.Mar 27 22:32
DaemonFC"Next time you have an idea....just go with it....."Mar 27 22:32
techrights-newsNew variant of Linux FUD in Microsoft sites http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-33214Mar 27 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux MachinesMar 27 22:38
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techrights-newsReleasing Slax 11.3 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163053Mar 27 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Releasing Slax 11.3 | Tux MachinesMar 27 22:45
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163054Mar 27 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 27 22:45
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22031853Mar 27 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wrnv5dsgicn81.jpg created on 2022-03-18 17:27:56.167445Mar 27 22:49
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MinceRhttp://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2393Mar 27 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/10/2022Mar 27 23:21
DaemonFCMy Uncle Barry (an Uncle by marriage, my Aunt divorced him) refused a pension plan from RCA that didn't even cost anything to sign up for.Mar 27 23:51
DaemonFCHe said, "I'm not going to retire from here!".Mar 27 23:52
DaemonFCNow he has no retirement income at all except a measly Social Security check that's barely enough to eat and pay rent with.Mar 27 23:52
DaemonFCEveryone figures that 30-40 years might as well be forever from now.Mar 27 23:52
DaemonFCUntil they get old, can't work, and have nothing.Mar 27 23:52
DaemonFCAnd honestly, not having a 401(k) screws you in a lot of ways you don't even consider. The IRS might even give you part of the value back each year as a tax credit, and if you have to file bankruptcy, the court can't touch any of it.Mar 27 23:53
DaemonFCThey can't make you take your retirement money to pay your bills with, so it's all protected no matter how much is in there, in addition to your exempt assets.Mar 27 23:54
DaemonFCOf course, you could choose to empty it later voluntarily after all of your debts go away and you need money to rebuild your life with.Mar 27 23:54
DaemonFCSo it's a pile of cash your bill collectors can't get at.Mar 27 23:54
DaemonFChttps://wpt.fyi/interop-2022?stableMar 27 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wpt.fyi | web-platform-tests dashboardMar 27 23:58
DaemonFCSafari and Firefox are passing more tests than Chromium browsers.Mar 27 23:59
DaemonFCChrome really is the Internet Explorer 6 of 2022.Mar 27 23:59

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